Exciting!
Exciting!
Maybe, but should we post about Liechtenstein's goals today in this or the old thread? I might have to post in both, just to be on the safe side.
We go again.
What’s the rule on the disallowed goal, how far back can you go?It depends on if it's Villa who have scored it and whether it at Old Trafford.
Are we blaming Leeg for whatever the feck was going on in the Belgium v Cymru game ?
What’s the rule on the disallowed goal, how far back can you go?
That looks more in play than the one in the World Cup when Japan scored against Germany. That goal was allowed.
Did they show the VAR still on which they based the decision?
Ta, I'll be watching the cricket instead.
He’s had a mare kicking this off so early. This thread will be responsible for our results at Old Trafford and Selhurst next season.
We’ve got another clown in charge here. If he wins the World Cup I will swallow the hat I will have to buy.Save your money.
Senegal ahead.Deservedly. Come on Morgan: get a goal!
Toneys face is a pictureIf you’re behind Morgan Rogers for number 9 position…sulking is allowed
Makes me pine for Gareth.
That is a terrible decision.
That is a terrible decision.
I assume we're talking about starting this thread?
Harvey Elliott doesn't have a right foot.
And right on cue he bangs one in. With his left foot obviously.Harvey Elliott doesn't have a right foot.
Got at least one foot!
Christ, that’s embarassing.
Christ, that’s embarassing.
It would be shit if everyone thought like that about boycotts, though. I refuse to bet on or watch horse racing, I know it makes shit all difference but I still won't do it.
It would be shit if everyone thought like that about boycotts, though. I refuse to bet on or watch horse racing, I know it makes shit all difference but I still won't do it.
Maybe you're right, I have boycotted Super League since they banned relegation. I'll try to swerve this competition then, but may be tempted to peek if any of the English teams look like delivering an amusing defeat.
Going to be a long game for Auckland. 4-0 20 minutes gone
Going to be a long game for Auckland. 4-0 20 minutes goneTo be fair to West Auckland they did qualify as World champions 1909 and 1911 - the ones who are still alive are in their 130s!
This is just a preseason friendly in the US with 100 million at the end of it. Boring watch and listen to on 5.
Chances are it won’t be a huge flop. And even less chance it will be canceled. In fact it’s moving to 48 teams
Yep they will keep throwing money at it. And when you see PIF being advertised and promoted then you know where much of the motivation and financing will come from and be influenced by. This event will inevitably end up in Qatar or Saudi at some point.
And I see Saudi are competing the Concacaf. The North American Euros.Yep they will keep throwing money at it. And when you see PIF being advertised and promoted then you know where much of the motivation and financing will come from and be influenced by. This event will inevitably end up in Qatar or Saudi at some point.
Presumably it'll be in Saudi Arabia in 2033 as a dress rehearsal for the 2034 World Cup.
It's too hot. I can imagine them messing about with one season to accommodate a winter World Cup, as they did when it was in Qatar, but not two.
It isn't an invitational, and there is merit to who qualifies (even allowing for the deliberately manipulated criteria to ensure Messi would be in it).
Didn't quite know ow where to post this.
Drogheda expelled from Europe after losing Cas appeal - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cwyqjl9zpw8o
UEFA anti c&b stitch up.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
No, on the balance of probability, I'd say a nefarious, worldwide anti-Witton conspiracy is more plausible.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Ethan Wheatley was on-loan at Walsall last year, but they just said he's from Man Utd.
England U21 looking poor. Iling Jr not impressive, neither is Harvey ElliotCresswell looked decent; as did Norton-Cuffy.
When it comes to the Moldovan Liga, I assume most Villa fans have FC Balti as their preferred team.
2-0
Lucky as fook to get that pen wiped off…looked as nailed on a handball as you’ll see
2-0
Lucky as fook to get that pen wiped off…looked as nailed on a handball as you’ll see
C4 commentators were saying he moved his body not his arm, so the ref was fooled into thinking he'd moved the arm?! Sounded like nonsense to me.
Switzerland women’s national team (ranked 23rd in the world) lost 7-1 in a friendly match against Luzern’s U15 boys team. https://www.goal.com/en/lists/alisha-lehmann-switzerland-euro-2025-hosts-thrashed-under-15-team/blt569915d6561b9a2a
1-1 now.
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Further points deduction incoming for Everton.
https://x.com/Andrew_Heaton/status/1938026705563885910
Poor defending 2-1Stansfield showing he's a third division striker defending by allowing that cross to come in.
Who is Elliot sticking two fingers up to?
Subs have had a big impact, loads more energy to us. Iling-Junior has worked his tits off pressing.
Dorking's White given six-game ban for sexist comment - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy9x0y8r137o
Ha ha, Citeh out
Difficult not to laugh at Man City being beaten by that Saudi team.
And hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
he cant there is no shirt
Very goodThe way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
he cant there is no shirt
Preston v Liverpool... live on ITV !!
Why ???
Too much football about these days. David Mitchell had it right.
Blue Blood against Bold Brilliance is how McNamara described the encounter….WTF?
Nuno Mendes has been destroyed for all 3 goals
we are not the only team to score 3 against them
Sorry but this England performance is shit.
I just said, in all seriousness that the Swedes are better in every department.
This reminds me of our semi final v Palace where they knew exactly what we we were going to do.
I can’t see England getting back into this and expect Sweden to score again
Has to be a pen surely?
Has to be a pen surely?
She headed the ball against her own arm that was raised above her shoulder. A pen every week in the Premier League.
Agyemang is like an England Ladies Jhon Duran in terms of impact!Haha….she did get booked two minutes after coming on so yes like Jhon.
The referee is very poor. Inept in fact, the goal kick she just gave England when it was very clearly a corner and then the corner she gave England when it was so clearly a goal kick were very funny indeed.
The referee is very poor. Inept in fact, the goal kick she just gave England when it was very clearly a corner and then the corner she gave England when it was so clearly a goal kick were very funny indeed.
Mad how it seemed like she gave Sweden loads of decisions through the game but then suddenly in the last 10 mins that happened.
Oh & Lucy Bronze is totally the female John Terry!
Swede keeper moving before kicks.That is what I said when it was happening. No wonder she got down to save them. What was the line person on the goal line watching?
Swede keeper moving before kicks.That is what I said when it was happening. No wonder she got down to save them. What was the line person on the goal line watching?
Rangers beat Panathinaikos 2-0 in the first leg of their UCL - 2nd Qualifying Round tie.
Rangers beat Panathinaikos 2-0 in the first leg of their UCL - 2nd Qualifying Round tie.
At least if Rangers go through, they won't drop into the Europa League (I think).
All teams eliminated from the League Path enter the Europa League:
The 3 losers of the second qualifying round enter the Main Path third qualifying round.
The 4 losers of the third qualifying round enter the league phase.
The 2 losers of the play-off round enter the league phase.
So why you watching it then?i am not
The quality of football is shit.
I've got to say I'm all for comical penalty shoot outs, modern players stuttering or lasering the ball into the top corner is boring as fuck, for me the joy in the penalty shootout is the pressure turning otherwise capable athletes to jelly.
They must have a department that just looks 9-5 every day at ways to ruin the game.
I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.
Just heard that they are trying to bring in arule where you cant score a rebound from a penalty save , how bloody stupid.So Ray Graydon's goal against Kevin Keelan wouldn't have counted. One of my seminal memories.
Just heard that they are trying to bring in arule where you cant score a rebound from a penalty save , how bloody stupid.So Ray Graydon's goal against Kevin Keelan wouldn't have counted. One of my seminal memories.
Why does it need changing?
And as I mentioned, if the problem is the taker having advantage on a follow-up, then have the rule be that someone other then the goal keeper has to touch the ball before the taker can have a second touch. The planned changes means that no matter what happens, the whole game is stopped and the results can only be a goal or a goal kick. There is no follow-up corner allowed if keeper saves it around the post, or fast break by the opposition if saved and moved on quickly.
But maybe the defensive team shouldn't be giving away penalties in the first place then they don't have to worry about the attacking team having an advantage.
Why does it need changing?
Why does it need changing?
Why does it need changing?
It stops all the nonsense of players encroaching and squabbling on the edge of the box prior to it being taken which in turn allows the officials to concentrate on the penalty itself and hopefully avoid the ten minute wait between the offence happening and the kick being taken.
I don't mind it. But my priority would be banning stuttered run-ups.
No, because a free kick is clearly not the same as a penalty. Also the player taking the free kick doesn't have the advantage of being nearest the ball for a likely rebound.
No, because a free kick is clearly not the same as a penalty. Also the player taking the free kick doesn't have the advantage of being nearest the ball for a likely rebound.
That's kind of how the penalty concept is meant to work, every advantage should be given the team denied the obvious goalscoring opportunity.
Why does it need changing?It doesn't , but we have the department of ruin looking at all angles .
I like it, I've decided. Attacker still gets a chance to score, but only one chance. Doesn't sound that bad to me.Nah. One of the most stupid ideas yet .
I don't care if they change it or not but I can see the benefits. It needs to come with some changes to the run up though because the stuttering bullshit is clearly the biggest problem with penalties.
I don't care if they change it or not but I can see the benefits. It needs to come with some changes to the run up though because the stuttering bullshit is clearly the biggest problem with penalties.
I have said this on here at least 100 times, but I fully lay the blame for this at the feet of John Aldridge, the inventor of the stuttering penalty kick.
You are right, Paul, stop this bullshit right now, it's absolutely out of control.
I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.I thought goalkeepers could move along the goal line just not forward, unless thats changed now.
You can do that in Subbuteo so it must be right. Absolutely best way to save a pen in that game, hold the goal down and waggle your keeper left and right like crazy, always puts the other player off scoring.I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.I thought goalkeepers could move along the goal line just not forward, unless thats changed now.
It's so favour of the taker these days that i'm waiting for them to bring in a rule where the keeper has to be sat down when it's taken.
*Grits teeth*
Impressive result by "Rangers".
*Grits teeth*
Impressive result by "Rangers".
They now play Viktoria Plzeň in the third qualifying round, then either Benfica or Nice if they get through that.
Also have to say that their new away strip is quite smart, if red, white and blue kits are your thing.
Over in Hong Kong, Spurs beat Arsenal 1-0 in the first North London derby played outside the UK. I wonder when and where the first Second City derby outside the UK will take place.
Over in Hong Kong, Spurs beat Arsenal 1-0 in the first North London derby played outside the UK. I wonder when and where the first Second City derby outside the UK will take place.
ITV have a live game a month
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All Sundays so we won't be able to watch them 😣
Now they’ve equalised. Booooooo
Motherwell scored a late equaliser to draw their first game of the season against Rangers.
I watched the first half hour of Luton v Wimbledon before I could stand it no longer, it was truly awful.
Motherwell scored a late equaliser to draw their first game of the season against Rangers.
Breda fans enjoying themselves before their friendly at Norwich
https://x.com/zak_nelson22/status/1951642835196784919
3-0, tie over.
Great result for Shelbourne in the Europa League. Won 2-1 away at Rijeka.
Kane does an Ollie against Spurs. https://x.com/TroIISports/status/1953510455009530295
That Stansfield really does look like he belongs at that place.
That Stansfield really does look like he belongs at that place.Small Heaths Foden . Probably got 5 kids already .
He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
Ipswich are shit.
He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
I'd rather watch a documentary about squeezing blackheads.He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
I'd rather watch a documentary about squeezing blackheads.He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
Err yeah ok ;)He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
where is Philogene ?
Stansfield is a real talent and a joy to watch, hurts to say but it’s just the facts.
Lewis Ward, Villa fan
Go on Ash boiOnce a Villa man... :D
Laughing my cock off at Blues but never a pen. Which makes it even funnier obviously 🤣
Blues classy as ever in these final moments!
well those 2 Aren’t coming up , you heard it here first
Yeah I know but I just think its bullshitLaughing my cock off at Blues but never a pen. Which makes it even funnier obviously 🤣
Under the current rules it is, arm was in an unnatural position, there were plenty of similar ones given last season.
FULL-TIME
Birmingham 1-1 Ipswich
Birmingham thought they were back with a bang before George Hirst's 95th minute penalty.
Jay Stansfield's second-half goal looked like it would be enough to win it for Blues who make it 26 league games at home unbeaten and dominated much of the match.
well those 2 Aren’t coming up , you heard it here first
Agreed, neither looked Prem tonight
Consensus seems to be the penalty was correct given the current handball laws
Everything about that club is truly horrible.
The conduct of the SHA supporters was appalling but completely predictable. Hands down, the scummiest bunch of fans in the country.
Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Bugger, I knew I'd got something wrong. One of my mates is a Tractor Boy - bollocking on the way- deservedly.Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Suffolk.
Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Suffolk.
Surely a massive fine or stadium ban is worthy.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fan.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.Objects also thrown at Ref as he left the field . Hope they throw the book at the club .
Yes it’s a good game.Hollywood ending
Yes it’s a good game.Hollywood ending
Another fucking prat in the standsI thought there were 27 thousand of them...
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.It doesn't. They absolutely revel in the "look at us aren’t we naughty" aspect.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.Objects also thrown at Ref as he left the field . Hope they throw the book at the club .
ShefU v Bristol Coty is a decent game. Two great goals so far with Callum O’Hare being excellent for the equaliser. O’Hare is one we let go too cheaply I feel. Barry is doing okay too in his make or break season.
ShefU v Bristol Coty is a decent game. Two great goals so far with Callum O’Hare being excellent for the equaliser. O’Hare is one we let go too cheaply I feel. Barry is doing okay too in his make or break season.
Anthony Gordon just done his hamstring. You would think it would keep him out next week.
Dundee leading 1-0 at Ibrox.
Our friends at 5Live excel again by describing today's match at Wembley as the "Community Shield Final".
First time since 1989 that Rangers have failed to win either of their first two league games. I'm sure Russell Martin will sort it out though.
First time since 1989 that Rangers have failed to win either of their first two league games. I'm sure Russell Martin will sort it out though.
The way he's going he'll be out before the transfer window closes!
Charity Shield todayMe. Went on my own as none of my mates wanted to go.
Withe 2-2 Falcao
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Charity Shield today
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Charity Shield today
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Falco?
Yes, first visit to Wembley as a 5 year old.
Didn’t return until 1994.
Charity Shield today
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Charity Shield todayYes I was there but it meant sod all to me then and as an annual event still does. Hope the money does genuinely help out charities but it’s a glorified practice match
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Charity Shield todayYes, first big game in our new Le Coq kit, and first sight of Tony Morley in his pre match white jacket and newly dyed blonde hair.
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Commentator actually suggesting that goal on 20 mins had something to do with Jota. “Hairs on the back of the neck stuff”.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Why are men so rubbish at penalties?
Wednesday 1 up at HT.And great to see the football community coming together as Wednesday fans protest against their abysmal owner.
He missed his.Why are men so rubbish at penalties?
Entschuldigung!
Cheery scoucers booing the National Anthem
If you don't like it don't sing it.
Come on you Eagles
To be honest, most Liverpool fans are Scandos or Irish, anyway, so they should feel nothing for our national anthem.
Cheery scoucers booing the National Anthem
If you don't like it don't sing it.
Come on you Eagles
I agree nobody is forced to join in but booing it spoils it for those who do want to sing. For the record I’m not a royalist and b ever sign it but I never boo either.
Booing it then complaining about background noise for your minutes silence is very hypocritical.
To be honest, most Liverpool fans are Scandos or Irish, anyway, so they should feel nothing for our national anthem.
We've a bit more class than that, we didn't even boo it when your rugger buggers rocked up at Croke Park.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
No, I had a deprived childhood, we couldn't even afford 'Tennis Girl'. Had to make do with Iron Maiden's 'The Trooper' and 'Two Minutes to Midnight'.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
No, I had a deprived childhood, we couldn't even afford 'Tennis Girl'. Had to make do with Iron Maiden's 'The Trooper' and 'Two Minutes to Midnight'.
‘Tennis Girl’ photo was taken in Birmingham I think.
Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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I was there too. The only time I haven't seen us lose.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I saw a Spurs fan getting kicked around like a rag doll by a group of Villa on the concourse in our end before the game. It was hideous to see and there's still twats around that glamourise football violence.
While waiting at the bar, two sly bastards side punched the brother and ran off before we could do anythingCharity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I saw a Spurs fan getting kicked around like a rag doll by a group of Villa on the concourse in our end before the game. It was hideous to see and there's still twats around that glamourise football violence.
A mob of Spurs came up to the steps of our end at Wembley a couple of hours before kick off and there was a flurry of fighting. I remember I'd just left school and was amazed that somebody had enough money to throw an unopened can of beer at us.
There was a sizeable contingent of Spurs in the lower section of the Villa end that day. I didn't go downstairs at HT but a load of Spurs had come under the stands to confront the Villa fans drinking there. Apparently it was mayhem and they were seen off after a fierce battle.
We went with the Sutton Coldfield Lions club coach and there was lots of gesturing on the coach park after from people sat safely on coaches, but I didn't see any more trouble.
Bromley knock Ipswich out. Meaning Bromley are better than the noses.
Really hope PSG totally dick Spurs tonight.
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
Nine times (none since 1948).
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
Looks like their main stand is closed tonight.Doesn't it look like that most games?
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
They need to interview him for the part 2 of the documentary.
That Selles is a complete fraud of a manager. How has he got this job?
Sheffield United are fucking hopeless
The first team got battered at home 1-4 Saturday by Bristol city :DSheffield United are fucking hopeless
This is only their reserves tbf
Seems the way to beat PSG is to just hoof it long and hope it sticks or you can win a set-piece.they are far from invincible, they'd lost 4 times in the ECL last season before we beat the down B6
1-1 at the Sty.
Great goal as well.
1-1 at the Sty.has any angry inbreds entered the pitch as of yet
good finish by Lisa
good finish by Lisa
Yep apart from the double deflection it was.
Probably too little too late but PSG get a goal back
Vitanha can't hit the target at all.
No DonnaSummer to save pens though. How good is Maurice at them?
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
It's a much higher percentage than that
Being a piss taking, blinkered hypocrite is a big part of football. If I supported another club i'd have ripped the piss out of us over Emi turning into Boris Johnson and the ref screwing us over as we missed out on the CL. And that's how it should be.
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
It's a much higher percentage than that
Only watched the penalties, but what I liked was that all the players who took proper penalties scored, while the players who tried to be sly stop-start cùnts missed.
On MOTD prediction programme, Danny Murphy has got us to finish 5th, which is a bit worrying!
Another goalkeeping howler for Hibs. 2-2 on aggregate now.
You can see the Playoffs fill in during real time on the BBC fixtures for that day.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scores-fixtures/2025-08-21
Just noticed that Palace Reserves will be playing away in Norway the Thursday before our match.
Hibs have Hibsed it. Unbelievable.Literally 2 seconds from the end of stoppage time
Red Imps get Sporting Braga as a reward.
Red Imps get Sporting Braga as a reward.
They’ll in all likelihood lose but do they drop straight to the Conf League Group?
Hibs will play Legia for a place in the group stages. Safe to say we'll all be cheering them on in that one.
I haven't missed Peter Drury. Waiting for the inevitable.... SALAH! MO SALAH!
I haven't missed Peter Drury. Waiting for the inevitable.... SALAH! MO SALAH!
Oh my god how annoying is that.
Jotas number?
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
Jotas number?
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
Semenya reported racial abuse to the referee who stopped the game and spoke to the 4th official and both managers.Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
Im going pub. fcuk this . see u tomorrow
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
They stopped play as a Liverpool fan racially abused Semenyo who was taking a throw in.
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.not a good look
Premier League have confirmed Antoine Semenyo reported being racially abused by someone in the crowd, which is why Anthony Taylor stopped the game.Semenya reported racial abuse to the referee who stopped the game and spoke to the 4th official and both managers.Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
What’s going to be funny is if Liverpool back out of the Isak deal because Ekitike does well. A player that ironically Newcastle wanted to replace Isak. They are them lumbered with a forward who went on strike trying to force a move away.Bit of insider trading and he'd end up in Saudi . Problem resolved.
Etikite looks lightweight to me, lucky goal aside. Isak is a similar kind of player actually, but better.
Decent goal. What else is on?When the boat comes in
I've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
I've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
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Will do , Knock off version or genuineI've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
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Will do , Knock off version or genuineI've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
Get in .
Check out Aldi 👍👍👍😊
This is going to end badly I can tell .
Some Spanish lagers are very nice. In addition to Cruzcampo there is Mahou, Estrella Galicia, Malaga Victoria and Alhambra (not sure if you can get Alhambra in the UK, I myself have not seen it in pubs or supermarkets here).
Peter Drury makes me feel physically sick.
He doesn't vary it... there's no "he'll have to have a go...". or "great shot fine goal!" It's just the players name every time.Bellowed at full volume. It's so tedious to listen to.
He doesn't vary it... there's no "he'll have to have a go...". or "great shot fine goal!" It's just the players name every time.Bellowed at full volume. It's so tedious to listen to.
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
All I've done is moan tonight and I'm really not feeling football at the moment. Everything about is leaving me pissed off. Hopefully tomorrow will be better 👍I wouldn't hold your breath .
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
All I've done is moan tonight and I'm really not feeling football at the moment. Everything about is leaving me pissed off. Hopefully tomorrow will be better 👍
Serves the bloke in the wheelchair right!
For me, the main reason for watching football on a dodgy stick isn’t to evade cost, it’s so I don’t have to listen to drury and Carragher wanking themselves off over the Sky 6. Sky/TNT don’t even try and hide the bias anymore.Bit of both and I agree with the above but it's 100% not to feed the machine too .
Surely these commentators have to attend work appraisals, performance reviews and the like?
'Peter, this thing you keep doing...'
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
I've always thought he looked decent but in the charity shield and again today he looked like competition winner, no idea what has gone wrong with him but he got caught out of position time and time again tonight.
For me, the main reason for watching football on a dodgy stick isn’t to evade cost, it’s so I don’t have to listen to drury and Carragher wanking themselves off over the Sky 6. Sky/TNT don’t even try and hide the bias anymore.Yes, I found a stream with Conor Macnamara on commentary. Much better.
Hugh Johns. Every other answer is very very wrong.Yes, Hugh Johns was a maestro, but always Barry Davies for me.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
That "Aguero" is iconic because it was the very late goal that won them the title on the last day. There is definitely no need to do it ad-nauseum evey match including the very first game of the season. As an aside, was there any iconic commentary when Thomas broke through against Liverpool in 89?
I've just seen a clip of Kevin Phillips talking about the Albion game on a Sky ad on Twitter. His hair, my God. If I worked for the Turkish Hair Transplant Marketing Board I'd sue him for compromising the brand, for insulting the very concept of hair.That has to be a weave. No way that's natural lol
Edit: here it is.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5JGqsYP/Screenshot-2025-08-16-11-47-21.png) (https://ibb.co/b5JGqsYP)
Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Well, true Olf. Notwithstanding, the hunger side tried to play football: we were inept!Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Well, true Olf. Notwithstanding, the hunger side tried to play football: we were inept!Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
How on earth is that a foul. Fcuk off.They dug deep to find a rule to protect a Sky6 club. Disgraceful.
Forest had a really good season and look very bright and adventurous. Chris Wood doesn’t appear to be slowing down either. Brentford on the hand look horrendous.
Can they sell him to a team that doesn't play against us, please?Small Heath? 😂
Why one metre when everything else in football is measured in yards including the distance from the ball to the wall?Ok, who wants to analyse all goals from free kicks (post 2019 rule introduction) to see how consistent this rule has been applied?
Peter Dreary..... "its Cunha.... MATHEUS CUNHA!"
Nice elbow ignored by the ref…
Please tell me Shaw was booked deg that tackle?
Maan U have been much the better team this half, unlucky or incompetent to be still 1 downHuff and puff
Odegaard is shit
It's like Drury has to keep naming the players repeatedly just in case you don't know who they are....And reminding us who they play for.
I'm with Olaftab, I actually think Mank Yoo haven't been that bad. I think they've been fairly competitive compared to last 2-3 years. Still fancy Arsenal on the counter though.agreed, and showing how to use wingbacks - both Dorgu and Dalot have put the Arse under pressure. Even Casemiro looks better. And, Mbuemo is a decent player.
It's like Drury has to keep naming the players repeatedly just in case you don't know who they are....And reminding us who they play for.
Both teams look better than we or Newcastle looked yesterday.PSR doing its thing then obviously.
Why was Gyokeres getting pelters from the home fans?
Drury is going my head in
Dunno who had the closer escape.Why was Gyokeres getting pelters from the home fans?
decided not to go to the twats
Am I the only one who only remembers Gykores as an average striker in the championship?No. Add me to the list.
Improved so much that they ended the game trying to lump it to Maguire.
Am I the only one who only remembers Gykores as an average striker in the championship?No. Add me to the list.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
He played for Coventry in the championship and didn’t pull up any trees.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Manure have been regularly raising their game against bigger sides though, especially under Amorium. It is when they play crapper sides they struggle more.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Manure have been regularly raising their game against bigger sides though, especially under Amorium. It is when they play crapper sides they struggle more.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
Watching chevalier for PSG. One serious save to make so far. He palmed it into a dangerous area but was helped out by his defender buying a free kick.
My memory is clearly not great. I’m not doubting the law exists but a cursory glance on Twitter gives at least 3 recent examples where goals have been scored in the same circumstances and not disallowed (Chelsea benefitting vs Bournemouth last season). The issue is inconsistent application. I’m not against VAR per se but it cannot be applied inconsistently.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
If chelsea scored that there is absolutely no chance that gets disallowed. Its like the one against us ve manure a rule no one knew about.
Its funny when these "rules" come into light its always the smaller club that gets fucked over.
Anyone remember that penalty manure got after the final whistle blew i think it was against brighton a few years ago? Another example
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
Yep, it was an obvious preplanned shove to create the space and was correctly disallowed.
Though they didn't penalise the shove, they stated he was too close to the wall.
With that shoving not being reviewed or penalised, and with Newcastle pushing us all over the place on Saturday, it seems like you're allowed to do it!
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
Yep, it was an obvious preplanned shove to create the space and was correctly disallowed.
Though they didn't penalise the shove, they stated he was too close to the wall.
With that shoving not being reviewed or penalised, and with Newcastle pushing us all over the place on Saturday, it seems like you're allowed to do it!
Ungentlemanly conduct is what it was. A term rarely used in football nowadays.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!
I'm glad they have an appreciation of 80s pop music. Step right Up is probably my favourite of hers.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!If he stays fit and recovers some form, he will soon become the most fouled player again.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!If he stays fit and recovers some form, he will soon become the most fouled player again.
Grealish on bench, Calvert-Lewin not even in squad. Makes it more dull than it could have been.
Is it just me or does Pickford look really small in that goal. He looks smaller than 6’1
Typical Moyes borefest. Theylll win 1-0Good
Is it just me or does Pickford look really small in that goal. He looks smaller than 6’1
2 very dull sides so far.
Leeds all fart and no shit
Everton not even a fart
These are two very very ordinary line ups. The Villa Grealish will standout like a diamond, Mancity Grealish will just blend in.And fair play to them they have spent 45 minute proving me right.
I don't like Grealish's new hair.
How VAR can give that!
It’s all about creating drama, not about getting decisions correct.
I'd be pretty seething if that was given against us, tbh.Didn’t we have a few similar given against us last season? Mings and Cash spring to mind.
I'd be pretty seething if that was given against us, tbh.Didn’t we have a few similar given against us last season? Mings and Cash spring to mind.
Good to see a couple of the promoted teams getting a win under their belts.Not when one of them is DFL it's not.
This game is low on quality but high in endeavor
He brings grealish on and they go more negative fcuk them.
The reassuring thing about this game is that much of the league is this bland. So as average as we were that’s not far from our floor in terms of performance. We don’t play a lot worse than that and generally a lot better. Everton look just as you expect a Moyes side to look. Fuck me they are dull.
Jack looks gone to me.
Great to see Leeds win the league.
Or was it just a game.
Jack looks gone to me.
I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.
I thought he did his usual thing of reliably not giving the ball away. But once he’d passed it on the next player gave it away each time so not sure what benefit he gave them really.
Decisions like that call into question the integrity of the game and specifically the match officials.
The PL are trying to flog more and more games but to do so it looks like they are needing PGMOL to create drama.
How VAR can give that!
It’s all about creating drama, not about getting decisions correct.
I’m not sure it’s about integrity. But the fact that they won’t overturn decisions makes VAR pointless. Both referees and VAR have their chance to make subjective decisions and will then back each other so there are now two opportunities in every incident for stupid decisions to be made.
I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
Not one of his teammates appealed and his protests were that he was pointing at his arm. For some reason he thinks that's a good argument. For me he leaned into the ball knowing it was going to hit his arm. I think nowadays even the most blatant of decisions are argued about by players and managers who are trying to influence future outcomes in their favour.I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
But it was a clear and obvious error.
But it was a clear and obvious error.
I didn’t see the incident live but picked it up on the highlights. Had to watch it a few times to see what all the controversy was about. I thought it was a clear case of hand ball.
Not one of his teammates appealed and his protests were that he was pointing at his arm. For some reason he thinks that's a good argument. For me he leaned into the ball knowing it was going to hit his arm. I think nowadays even the most blatant of decisions are argued about by players and managers who are trying to influence future outcomes in their favour.I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
Just watched it as it appears to be one of those things that everyone needs to have an opinion on. Penalty I reckon.
Holding your arms by your body and moving your body to block the ball with your arm isn't really any different to moving your arm and blocking the ball with your arm.
Big fuss about nothing for me.
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
He’s a defender he’s trying to block it with his body while trying his best to get his arm round his back out of the way
Have people gone raving mad saying he should be getting out of the way of the ball, is that what you think defenders should do in the box, try and get out of the way when the balls kicked towards goal rather than block it it’s hilarious
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
He’s a defender he’s trying to block it with his body while trying his best to get his arm round his back out of the way
Have people gone raving mad saying he should be getting out of the way of the ball, is that what you think defenders should do in the box, try and get out of the way when the balls kicked towards goal rather than block it it’s hilarious
Just watched it as it appears to be one of those things that everyone needs to have an opinion on. Penalty I reckon.
Holding your arms by your body and moving your body to block the ball with your arm isn't really any different to moving your arm and blocking the ball with your arm.
Big fuss about nothing for me.
Sounds about right. I wouldn't have been amazed if it wasn't given but I'm not surprised it was, it's nothing like as controversial as some are making it out to be.
ha ha your all mentalWhy because we dont all agree with you?
ha ha your all mentalWhy because we dont all agree with you?
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street
I do not believe you are being honest here, sorry.
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
Just wait till you watch Mrs Brown's Boys.
So he moved his body in the direction of the ball by accident?
Rangers. Lol.
Rangers. Lol.
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
Would that be the champions league?Exactly that , all these preliminary rounds / qualifying rounds blah blah . "Champions league" trade descriptions need to get involved . Joke .
Would that be the champions league?Exactly that , all these preliminary rounds / qualifying rounds blah blah . "Champions league" trade descriptions need to get involved . Joke .
Wanted them to win as don't want to play the twats.
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
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I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.I think the bone of contention here is whether or not he did it on purpose and that is something we will never know. He leans towards the path of the ball and although his arm is tucked in the ball strikes the arm. For me i think he knew there was a good chance that the ball would strike his arm so it's a legitimate penalty.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.I think the bone of contention here is whether or not he did it on purpose and that is something we will never know. He leans towards the path of the ball and although his arm is tucked in the ball strikes the arm. For me i think he knew there was a good chance that the ball would strike his arm so it's a legitimate penalty.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
Well yes. So where it’s so marginal and therefore grey give the advantage to the attacking team. And I know it works both ways. But when you don’t know for the sure the immediate contact of the foot on the ball for a cross, then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. Right now everything goes to the defending team regarding offside.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
Well yes. So where it’s so marginal and therefore grey give the advantage to the attacking team. And I know it works both ways. But when you don’t know for the sure the immediate contact of the foot on the ball for a cross, then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. Right now everything goes to the defending team regarding offside.
Sure. No disagreement in principle. But as soon as one of those "benefit of the doubt" calls go against us, this place will be filled with "he's either offside or isn't". And very much not offering the benefit of the doubt.
Also - while I appreciate you've moved us on to offsides, much of the last few pages have been people getting very angry about the attacking team getting the benefit of the doubt on a marginal decision!
There is no handball rule specifically benefitting an attacking team at all. The same rules already mentioned apply to attackers in the box. If anything the handball rules are more benefit for the defensive team because if the ball accidently hits the goal scorers hand/arm in any way, it is ruled out no matter what.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
Well you do see corruption/ulterior motives in every single football decision, but how you can think that type of decision would only be awarded these days WHEN we have had some awful decisions go our way. Remember when Elleray awarded a handball because Delaney spun around to looking for the ball that had just been flicked up and the dropping ball hit his arm as he turned? I don't think "drama" was needed then.
Celtic match is crap.
Fenerbahce v Benfica ft Jhon Duran may be worth a watch this evening, on TNT, just about to kick off.
He will be back at Leicester in a few weeks once the scouring agent has been sacked.
Don't really fancy us having to travel to Kazakhstan for a midweek match, so could do with Celtic prevailing.
A Copa Sudamericana match in Buenos Aires was abandoned after violent clashes between fans, with some being stripped and beaten.
Ten people were seriously injured and more than 300 arrested at Wednesday's last-16 second leg between Argentine hosts Independiente and Universidad de Chile, according to local media.
A stun grenade was among the objects thrown by spectators while one fan fell from the top tier of a stand at the Estadio Libertadores de America in the Avellaneda area of the Argentine capital.
Violence flared at half-time as objects including toilets, sinks, pieces of masonry and seats were thrown from the away section on to the section below them housing home supporters.
Home fans then appeared to enter the away section early in the second half, attacking visiting supporters and forcing them to flee.
Rodgers agent will be busy for next few weeks. Openly critical of the board there again like he was when they wouldn't give him the funds to sign McGinn back in the day.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
Well you do see corruption/ulterior motives in every single football decision, but how you can think that type of decision would only be awarded these days WHEN we have had some awful decisions go our way. Remember when Elleray awarded a handball because Delaney spun around to looking for the ball that had just been flicked up and the dropping ball hit his arm as he turned? I don't think "drama" was needed then.
Jesus don’t bring back that nightmare.
The ball actually came off Niall Quinn’s arm
Onto Delaney’s arm. Surprised he couldn’t spot that given the x ray vision he had perfected by the time Emckmann let a ball go under his foot a couple of years later at the sty
Rodgers agent will be busy for next few weeks.
No Eze for Palace. They’ve had a crap few weeks.
So Aberdeen v FCSB, or Palace v Fredrikstad?
So Aberdeen v FCSB, or Palace v Fredrikstad?
Not Shelbourne v Linfield?
Penalty to Shelbourne. Slipped as he took it, and missed.
Dons 2 down at a similar time.
No Eze for Palace. They’ve had a crap few weeks.
Apart from winning the Charity Shield and drawing at Chelsea.
Why did Sanchez not try to save it with his left hand?
Cracking goal
Thought that was a foul on PaquetaIt was certainly a poor pass to him from Diouf, but no foul.
Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
He’s an annoying cheating little shit but he was one of the most consistent players on a team that got top 4 and was also excellent for Spain in the last tournament
Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Kilman is shit
Bayern v Leipzig is on BBC. Bayern are cruising, Kane has just got their 4th and Ned is on the bench for Leipzig.
Game on, 4-1 now!!
Jeez. Potter isn't going to last the weekend.Especially being a long bank holiday one . Taxi .....
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Spammers, are pretty bad. Crap squad, crap owners and an over-rated manager who has done f.a. since he has been ther.On a hiding to nothing taking the Spam job.
Spammers, are pretty bad. Crap squad, crap owners and an over-rated manager who has done f.a. since he has been ther.On a hiding to nothing taking the Spam job.
All the money spent by unpronounceable on crap players, no budget to change it.
Relegation candidates.
Horrible away strip Chelsea have got. All that money and classless.
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Did he not choose Newcastle over usCov lad up there with wiggy at Spurs .
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Forest?
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Forest?
Manager and chairman seem to have had a falling out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0l62pnejyro
Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
That's about his level.Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
Actually, didn't our Dean try to sign him when we got back up into the Prem?
Neto is a greedy twat.Motm imo
Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
West Ham seemed half decent going forward at times but they looked bloody awful at the back.
Potter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
A career in punditry beckonsPotter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
I think there's a strong argument he's not achieved better than par in any job he's done since leaving Östersund.
All of those "well, he's the obvious candidate" takes for pretty much any job going over the last few years were mental in my opinion.
Potter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
I think there's a strong argument he's not achieved better than par in any job he's done since leaving Östersund.
All of those "well, he's the obvious candidate" takes for pretty much any job going over the last few years were mental in my opinion.
Man City bench is mega impressive.
Empty seats at Citeh, good job they are building that new tier.
That should be a penaltyIf you're talking about Porro, it was outside the box.
0-2 Spuds.
Either Man City are still on the downward slide under Pep or Spurs have finally got a proper manager.
Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B
Paulinha is a very good player and you can see how Spurs are benefiting from his defensive ability in midfield.Yep. Baffles me that Kompany didn't rate him.
Coventry 4-0 up at home to QPR.
Coventry 4-0 up at home to QPR.
Celebrating now owning their stadium
I reckon Arsenal will finish above us this season.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Levante beating Barcelona two-nil. On Disney+ if anyone has that.
Levante beating Barcelona two-nil. On Disney+ if anyone has that.
Rashford subbed off at half-time. Clearly can't do it on a warm Saturday night in Valencia.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Maybe, but Arsenal vs Leeds isn't really evidence of it.
If you have one of the best five or six teams in the world and they spend another quarter of a billion pounds on good players, you probably expect them to comfortably beat a newly promoted side under pretty much all circumstances, no?
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Maybe, but Arsenal vs Leeds isn't really evidence of it.
If you have one of the best five or six teams in the world and they spend another quarter of a billion pounds on good players, you probably expect them to comfortably beat a newly promoted side under pretty much all circumstances, no?
No but I thought Leeds were dreadful last week even when beating Everton. Everton, West Ham & Brentford are rotten.
The top end of the table are in a league of their own. Nearly every other team is struggling to even make a few signings.
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
I wonder why we didn’t re-sign Grealish?That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
On the bright side we aren't playing until next Sunday.There is that.
After two matches, however will we recover?
On the bright side we aren't playing until next Sunday.Not so good. If you lose on a Saturday at least you can drink yourself silly and have Sunday to recover. Not so Sunday night if you have work on Monday. Means the gloom carries over to the following week!
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
Is Mount not also holding Bassey there? It’s just that Bassey is stronger?Mount goes to block Bassey then he gets thrown to the floor, you just know VAR would not be looking for it if it was the other way round.
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Grealish is still a great player in the right set up
Which wouldn’t be ours at the moment as we play like a Pep team slow build up pass across the lines to and fro attack when all the oppositions players are in place behind the ball and then double up on Grealish give him no space
We would get Man City Grealish just because of the way we play
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Another penalty to the plastic tossers?
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Another penalty to the plastic tossers?
there was multiple holding in the box from both teams why single out one . Not even mentioned in the commentary
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
They said on comms that the Shaw one happened marginally later than the Mount one.
At least they are calling out the inconsistency about the push and no VAR.Not really calling it out. They should be saying how the hell can var treat the 2 instances so differently
How is that not a yellow for Dorgu?! Horrible challenge on Lucic.Isn’t that obvious?
Dendoncker starting in midfield for Oviedo tonight against Real Madrid, talk about baptism of fire!
Dendoncker starting in midfield for Oviedo tonight against Real Madrid, talk about baptism of fire!
Tchouaméni and Valverde won't get a sniff.
Pretty remarkable that Man U got away with that blatant push for their goal.
Liverpools turn to try and get through a game without Joelinton injuring one of there players…1 min 40 to commit a foul
We want Liverpool to win don’t we?
Newcastle are very much on top vs Liverpool. This is how we should have gone at Newcastle in our first home game. Not be passive but attack and get the crowd fired up. We would have won.
How come St James's has a spidercam and Villa Park still doesn't? Fuckin' Sky/Heck/Premier League...It’s because they have Pope on the pitch
No I don’t want Liverpool to get too far ahead.We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Yeah, probably better for us.
what times JJ on ;(I ain't looking forward to that bit.
We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Never .
what times JJ on ;(
I want them both to lose.We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Never .
Ramsey will get his chance for a few starts now with Gordon suspended. No doubt will cook up a storm.
I think red's a bit harsh there myselfReally? I disagree i thought it was a definite red. Gordon is becoming quite a dislikeable twat.
least nan can go home early and get a blue rinse.Ha ha ha.
I think red's a bit harsh there myself
I think red's a bit harsh there myself
He went in on the standing foot/leg without any attempt at the ball itself. The only way it wouldn't be a red is if they thought he had made no contact but he did, even if only skimmed him.
Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
Generally agree , but not if it helps the sewer rats .Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
They just showed the stud marks down the back of Van Dykes leg. A very poor challenge by nans hair.I think red's a bit harsh there myself
He went in on the standing foot/leg without any attempt at the ball itself. The only way it wouldn't be a red is if they thought he had made no contact but he did, even if only skimmed him.
And traveling at full pace
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.Yeah but it is Van Dyk. Surely tempting.
We're not even playing the same game as them at the moment. No point worrying about them. Newcastle getting twatted would be good for us.Generally agree , but not if it helps the sewer rats .Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
But a definite redI’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
A light graze and an undressing of the sock. Kinky but hardly violent.
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
A light graze and an undressing of the sock. Kinky but hardly violent.
I started to feel sympathy for Newcastle monetarily then I saw Tindall so they can get in the sea.
Isn't the 6 one of their new defenders?Yes, Kerkez.
Sad but I hope Tonali is out for the season
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
And Newcastle above us once again on goal differenceSurely goals scored?
He's shite at defending crosses regardless based on that.How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
And Newcastle above us once again on goal differenceSurely goals scored?
They have we haven't but we're both -1 GD.
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
Exactly what is the point of refcam? Just so we can watch a middle aged bloke with waddling arms jogging about.If that's your thing I'll be going for a run in the morning around 9ish.
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
Physically bullied by Guimares for that goal.
Christ it’s like watching my ex with another bloke.Gave her a 7/10 in fairness ;)
my sons gone bed , cant watch it.Good lad, proper Villa.
Newcastle showing 10 times the spirit we've shown in either of our matches so far this season.
Pathetic from Konate.
Bruno G has destroyed their midfield the bit I've watched. He's done it all really. JJ looks lively too
salah turned into bailey
Geordies don’t half get excited….
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
I’m frustrated by the first two games, but let’s not start lauding Newcastle as compared to us.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
I’m frustrated by the first two games, but let’s not start lauding Newcastle as compared to us.
You have to feel sorry for Newcastle.
Oh no, wait.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Kinda jealous we don't have any teen starlets likely to make an impression on our first team.
The 16 year old kid, who got the winner, did more in the few minutes he was on, than Salah did in 103 minutes.And Elanga who was equally useless
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Who is shitting themselves?
Who is shitting themselves?
BC Villain (football) and VillaTim (incontinence).
Who is shitting themselves?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Who is shitting themselves?
BC Villain (football) and VillaTim (incontinence).
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
It is a dig, you’re benching marking Villa fans against Newcastle fans.
I can’t quite work out which games you’re selecting, seems kind of arbitrary. But 74 goals and 30 odd assists from 180-190 league games is pretty bloody good.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
That was last season.
He's scored 17 in his last 61 games (spanning three seasons), so yes it is accurate.
Do you think it's good?
I reckon Ramsey will make the next England squad.Kind of nailed on I'd say now .
Damn, too late.
That was Newcastle’s Macheda moment.
It is a dig, you’re benching marking Villa fans against Newcastle fans.
I can’t quite work out which games you’re selecting, seems kind of arbitrary. But 74 goals and 30 odd assists from 180-190 league games is pretty bloody good.
No its not a dig. Go and check the Unai thread. Wheels have fallen off and there is a malaise at the club. Those were comments posted after the game at the weekend. I used Newcastle because they've had the same points as us both this and last season. Perspective is needed.
You've included assists when I asked about goals so you've proven my point again that it isn't good.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
That was last season.
He's scored 17 in his last 61 games (spanning three seasons), so yes it is accurate.
Do you think it's good?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).Yes, but….
Psychologically, I would still rather not be in the relegation zone when we kick off.
Psychologically, I would still rather not be in the relegation zone when we kick off.
With Palace down there and only having 2 points, it's the first 'six-pointer' of the season.
Jacob got a 5.95 rating on the BBC
Did you notice that Newcastle lost last night but moved up a place in the table? I think I preferred it when tables weren't shown until 4 games had been played, so those sort of quirks had ironed themselves out.Pretty sure that they started the match ahead of us on points then went below on alphabetical order, then on GD, then back above us on GS, then on points, finally remaining ahead on GS. But as theirs was the only game yesterday and they finished it on the same points but worse GD, there is no way they could have gone up vs before k.o
Jacob got a 5.95 rating on the BBC
Those ratings are a bunch of shit and vary wildly according to whether the team has won, drawn or.lost, regardless of the actual quality of individual performance
I know all football is meaningless if you think about it but being in the relegation zone after two matches is completely, utterly and irrefutably meaningless.
Decent chance we are in the relegation zone before we kick off on Sunday. To avoid it we need at least three of the following to happen:
Man U lose vs Burnley (Sat, 3pm)
Wolves fail to win vs Everton (Sat, 3pm)
Newcastle lose at Leeds (Sat, 5.30pm)
Brighton lose vs Man City (Sun, 2pm)
West Ham fail to win at Forest (Sun, 2pm)
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I reckon Ramsey will make the next England squad.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
Did you notice that Newcastle lost last night but moved up a place in the table? I think I preferred it when tables weren't shown until 4 games had been played, so those sort of quirks had ironed themselves out.Pretty sure that they started the match ahead of us on points then went below on alphabetical order, then on GD, then back above us on GS, then on points, finally remaining ahead on GS. But as theirs was the only game yesterday and they finished it on the same points but worse GD, there is no way they could have gone up vs before k.o
I like the early tables because they produce little quirks like Sunderland leading, giving that little thrill of incongruity that is lost as the table sorts itself out later on (2015-16 excepted)
Yep. I can't help but feel that the pressure of starting the day only separated by alphabetical order affected both teams.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
They don't 'mix it up', they play like they have a personal grudge against the sport and are mysteriously allowed to get away with it.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
Precisely, everyone moans about the boring tippy tappy passing from the back style of play, and when a team mixes it up...everyone moans.
Liverpool manager Arne Slot said "he is not too sure he saw a football match" in reference to Newcastle United's gameplan during his side's 3-2 win at St James' Park.
The Reds' 16-year-old forward Rio Ngumoha scored a 100th-minute winner in a breathless match during which Newcastle fought back from 2-0 down with 10 men.
Opta's statistics indicate the ball was in play for 40.8% of the match - the lowest percentage in a Premier League match since February 2010.
"I'm not too sure if I saw a football match," Slot told Sky Sports after the game.
"It was set-piece after set-piece, long throws. It didn't have a lot to do with tactics. But I liked a lot how we stood strong."
Nobody seems to be mentioning how mind buggeringly shit their defending was for Liverpool's winner. It's like the whole of the right side of their back four suddenly vaporised
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
I thought it was noticeable last night that the first piece of passing, composed football Liverpool played after they scored their second just after haft time resulted in the winner 55 minutes later.
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
I thought it was noticeable last night that the first piece of passing, composed football Liverpool played after they scored their second just after haft time resulted in the winner 55 minutes later.
but the point people are making is that a lot of what they do is given as free kicks and/or bookings against other teams but Newcastle have largely been allowed to push, pull, kick and shithouse their way through games for years, especially at home.
Man City's shithousing is annoying but only a bit more than the norm. I like a bit of edge, and not just when it's Emi for us but when it's Chiellini or Sergio Ramos or whoever, cracks me up. That's not the issue.
What we're saying about Newcastle is that it's the whole gimmick. They don't do a bit of cheeky whatnot - the entire style is based on getting away with shit other teams are punished for. That's why they're the worst. And yes, it's on the referees, but I don't see why that should stop me disliking the sportswashing fucks as well!
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
Man City's shithousing is annoying but only a bit more than the norm. I like a bit of edge, and not just when it's Emi for us but when it's Chiellini or Sergio Ramos or whoever, cracks me up. That's not the issue.
What we're saying about Newcastle is that it's the whole gimmick. They don't do a bit of cheeky whatnot - the entire style is based on getting away with shit other teams are punished for. That's why they're the worst. And yes, it's on the referees, but I don't see why that should stop me disliking the sportswashing fucks as well!
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
It's a period of 18 months. A perfectly reasonable sample size.
If his goal record was really good you wouldn't need to keep adding assists to it. Every time you do it you hammer another nail into your own argument.
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
I promise you it is pal.
17 in 54 last season, ended the season before without scoring for five games and he's got no goals in two games this season.
The fact you don't believe it says it all. Everyone knows it's not good enough.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
I promise you it is pal.
17 in 54 last season, ended the season before without scoring for five games and he's got no goals in two games this season.
The fact you don't believe it says it all. Everyone knows it's not good enough.
John said league games.
(26 in his last 61 premier league appearances).
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
It's a period of 18 months. A perfectly reasonable sample size.
If his goal record was really good you wouldn't need to keep adding assists to it. Every time you do it you hammer another nail into your own argument.
and if you argument didn't rely on ignoring everything but goals you wouldn't keep refusing to acknowledge that Watkins brings more to the team than just goals. Also cherry picking a date date/subset of games to fit your view is also a sure sign of a very weak argument.
but of course, assists don't count for smirker.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Unlikely Smirker will agree, given it’s purely about scoring goals.
Don’t feed the troll.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Unlikely Smirker will agree, given it’s purely about scoring goals.
Scoring goals is purely about scoring goals yes.
Whether he's an improvement on Watkins is a separate discussion.
Don’t feed the troll.
I don’t think Smirker is a troll, tbf. Just someone entrenched in a position that they’ve convinced themselves is absolute truth.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-called-investigate-unacceptable-32350849?utm_source=reach_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=special_analytic5_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=d87c9bfe-164e-4d49-90a8-0cf88fc68c21&hx=8503f669516879f641cca205fc9d5d6feceb0a32583ff788513201cad91c4512
I must admit I didn't notice this, although as with most games on TV not involving Villa, I was only half-watching. But it didn't seem a problem. And the notion that the game didn't represent decent spectator value as a football match I find utterly bizarre
Don’t feed the troll.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
League games is always the barometer. Cup games are of course important but a player can do a Stainrod and score 20 in a season, but 14 were against Exeter in the League Cup second round.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
More or less 1 in 3.
Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
It's boring now. "Assists don't count" is such a moronic stance to take it isn't worth engaging with any further. VT was better informed on the subject of climate change.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I’d prefer him to score in every match, each of them the winning goal. So no, it’s not good enough, if you take it in isolation, ignoring everything else he does. Scoring goals is not his only job.
I’d prefer my wife to do more than 15% of the cooking.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.
It's other people who bring assists and running a lot into it as a defence for his poor return, not me. I'm not ignoring anything. It's a discussion about goalscoring, not his all round game.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
More or less 1 in 3.
Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.
That's a no.
The discussion from here should be, 'do you think his all round game makes up for his poor goal return?'. That is at least a more reasonable discussion to have.
It shouldn't be, 'his goal return is good enough because he also has assists and runs around a lot'. The latter doesn't mean the former is good enough.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.
I would think that the one who scored 20 goals has a better goal record than the one who scored 15. Which would be fact?
Obviously I can understand the wider point of contribution to the team as a whole but that's not what I'm discussing.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.
Well It wouldn't would it, if he scores 9 more it would mean the team has scored 9 more.
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
It’s really terrible stuff. The Lisbon Lions will be spinning in their graves.
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
Amazon...gone to PensTalking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
What side is it on?
‘Tom Brady’s Birmingham City’ oh do fuck off BBC
It’s like suggesting I own BT because my pension fund has a tiny shareholding in it.
SuperKairat go ballistic Celtic are f***** shit!Was looking forward to a trip to Almaty.
And why can’t I have a copper landline for my house phone?It’s like suggesting I own BT because my pension fund has a tiny shareholding in it.
Oh, you're the bastard I need to talk to about my sketchy broadband.
So 1 season outside the top 10 since he arrived, that's not a poor goal return by any reasonable measure, and when you then add everything else on top you get one of the most productive strikers in the league for 5 consecutive seasons, with an overall record of 1 in 2.48
Wednesday 25/1 to beat Leeds at home. Still wouldn't go for it, they're playing the kids for some reason.
I thought it was a covid game when I turned it on..Wednesday 25/1 to beat Leeds at home. Still wouldn't go for it, they're playing the kids for some reason.
Wednesday weans winning! 🤣
Sounds like there are more Leeds than Wednesday fans in the ground due to boycott against owner. Fair play to them.
Hurrah Blose out. Nice clean sheet for Joe.
I do hope Amazon cover that one in their next crapumentary.:D
What’s with the lap of honour when you lose to Vale :-)
Leeds miss all 3 pens. Oh dear lol. Where are the Wednesday fans?
I think Barry Bannan's hair might be starting to thin.
La Bluenose reacts...
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DCL's penalty was worse than anything Celtic managed and that's sort of impressive.
Grimsby v Utd live on both ITV & Sky.... wtf 🙄It’s part of Country’s unwritten constitution that manu have to be live on tv.
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
Rangers have made a good start…not
Rangers have made a good start…not
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
Rangers have made a good start…not
Benfica winning ☹️
Joined by Birmingham City in a few years time when world domination is complete, looking forward to itGrimsby v Utd live on both ITV & Sky.... wtf 🙄It’s part of Country’s unwritten constitution that manu have to be live on tv.
An excellent goal.Great first touch
Man Utd look all over the plaice.They're certainly getting done up like a kipper!
Man U will still win.With a 95th minute winner. Sadly, yes...
Twice picking the ball out of the fishnets.Man Utd look all over the plaice.They're certainly getting done up like a kipper!
Breaking News : Man Utd have offered £250m to sign Aston Villa's Emi Martinez.Plus Garnacho?
Fin-tastic performance from GrimsbyI thought it was only Sam Matterface with his (prepared) puns. Fishy defending and Blunder Park so far.
3-0 to Bruges.In Bruges
Breaking News : Man Utd have offered £250m to sign Aston Villa's Emi Martinez.But Villa have to sell before they can sell.
3-0 to Bruges.4...this will end up at least 9 on agg. Now 5, so easy, the marking is crap
Well, that was an enjoyable first half. Sadly, I've seen enough Villa vs Man U matches to know what's going to happen.No, that sort of capitulation is only reserved for the Villa🙁
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Was he the Colombian centre half? I thought he was excellent, notably in the first game where had had Watkins in his pocket all night.
We want 10! We want 10!
Fin-tastic performance from GrimsbyI thought it was only Sam Matterface with his (prepared) puns. Fishy defending and Blunder Park so far.
He doesn't know his geography well though, reckoning Grimsby fans were singing 'are you Stockport in disguise' ...Scunthorpe.
Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Waiting for the ref to take them off because of the puddles to help ManUre
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Well Jimbo likes to get rid of tea ladies early, so why not?Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Oh it’s terrible, but no way he goes this early
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Was he the Colombian centre half? I thought he was excellent, notably in the first game where had had Watkins in his pocket all night.
Ecuador I think - he was outstanding
Should just call it X-ghosts thenVidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Because it’s not a real thing?
I don't want to take the piss out of Manure as they have been in this situation in alot of recent cup games and get the rub towards the end.
Commentators getting excited on Sky.
Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
True, apart from Andy T.Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
true but all commentators seem to be annoying these days.
And 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
Onana will just have good luck written in his water bottle
Do you really think the ref would call the foul though?
And 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
They're like Chelsea but without the class.
OkayAnd 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
From earlier in the thread.Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
They're like Chelsea but without the class.
Brilliant!
ManUre go to fish town and get battered.
Excellent. Can anyone work out how Man Utd were supposedly trying to sell Onana and then buy Emi for less? I honestly can't think of a worse keeper who's played consistently in the premier league for more than a single season.
Nice to see new signings Mbuemo and Cunha miss.
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...to think, we nearly got him as manager ...
They've had their chips!I saw them at Harrogate earlier this season: They're a tidy team (drew 3-3 at Town).
Well done Grimsby!
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...to think, we nearly got him as manager ...
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Even when they weren't in it, we drew the team that took their place.
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Even when they weren't in it, we drew the team that took their place.
We drew the bye.
At 2-1, I just wanted Grimsby to kick it into roe z.:D
At 2-1, I just wanted Grimsby to kick it into roe z.
I didn't watch any, but a couple of those results tonight have put a smile on my face.
Maatsen Torres Cash Bramall.
Sitting down hiding on the bench during a penalty shoot-out is the sort of thing people laugh about when you're well-liked, but when you're under pressure you're just giving people more excuse to have a pop.The only thing missing was a brolly.
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.T
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
Well, I wouldn't have gone there in the first place :D
Sitting down hiding on the bench during a penalty shoot-out is the sort of thing people laugh about when you're well-liked, but when you're under pressure you're just giving people more excuse to have a pop.The only thing missing was a brolly.
For all the talk of how rotten the club is they still have a chunk of quality players, and a half decent manager would be doing better than Amorim. He seems absolutely clueless and just blames everyone else.
For all the talk of how rotten the club is they still have a chunk of quality players, and a half decent manager would be doing better than Amorim. He seems absolutely clueless and just blames everyone else.
ManU have won 1 of their last 12 domestic matches.
And since winning at ManC before Xmas they've played 29 domestic matches. Their only wins are Saints (R), Fulham, Leicester (R), Ipswich (R), Leicester (R), and us. Plus Arsenal on pens. It's almost impressive to be that shit at ManU.
To give it some context, Sherwood had a higher win percentage with us than Amorim has at ManU.
That league games? Sherwood must have had an impressive win rate in cups.
Wiki has Amorim at 35.56% which is what I went by.
At some point they're going to have to deal with all the other shit whilst also committing to a manager for a long run and accepting that it's going to take a while to fix.
At some point they're going to have to deal with all the other shit whilst also committing to a manager for a long run and accepting that it's going to take a while to fix.
Two or three hundred years, with any luck.
That league games? Sherwood must have had an impressive win rate in cups.until the FA cup final fiasco.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
I must be getting soft in my old age but I actually felt sorry for Onana. Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
It was, just assumed all their managers were huffy at pens so rolled into one.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
Perhaps the enduring image of the evening was the sight of the Portuguese "cowering" - as described by BBC Sport's chief football news reporter Simon Stone - in the dugout during the penalty shootout, unable to watch.
Amorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
Amorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
Liverpool will play: Real Madrid (home), Inter Milan (away), Atletico Madrid (home), Eintracht Frankfurt (away), PSV Eindhoven (home), Marseille (away), Qarabag (home) and Galatasaray (away)
That doesn't look like the easiest draw they could have got.
That doesn't look like the easiest draw they could have got.
Chelsea are up next. They will play Barcelona (home), Bayern Munich (away), Benfica (home), Atalanta (away), Ajax (home), Napoli (away), Pafos (home) and Qarabag (away)
Same could be said for those games.
Still boils my piss that this absolute shower of shite battered us last game of the season.
QuoteAmorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
He does love throwing his players under the bus.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Thank God they can't hurt us.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Thank God they can't hurt us.
I wouldn't have minded them having extra-time this evening though.
Looked like a pretty-much full strength side, which is good. Although Fredrikstad is right in the south of Norway, so no big trip to the Arctic Circle for them.
Looked like a pretty-much full strength side, which is good. Although Fredrikstad is right in the south of Norway, so no big trip to the Arctic Circle for them.
Shush. The pilot might not know.
Very.Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
Very.Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
On the iPlayer.Viaplay for me.
"What a glorious football stadium this is"
- commentator just now on Sky Sports. Speaking about ....... the King Power.
First chorus of SOTV there.
First chorus of SOTV there.
I’m presuming the Blose’ Koumas is Jason’s son?
Dykes is on. Call me old fashioned, but what does he look like?
Also unsurprisingly, he seems happiest on the right.
I’m presuming the Blose’ Koumas is Jason’s son?
Apparently so.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
2-0.
Can't be long till their fans start throwing stuff on the pitch, surely?
Floriani Mussolini came off the bench to help Cremonese defeat Sassuolo 3-2 on his Serie A debut.
His great-grandfather would probably have been very proud. Came through the Lazio youth system, somewhat unsurprisingly.
Floriani Mussolini came off the bench to help Cremonese defeat Sassuolo 3-2 on his Serie A debut.
His great-grandfather would probably have been very proud. Came through the Lazio youth system, somewhat unsurprisingly.
I mean...I'd change my name...I don't think there are any living descendants of another dictator who still call themselves Hitler...
Unbelievable decision in favour of ChelscumVAR has come to referee games now rather than support clear and obvious errors: the crap behaviour at corners and free kicks continues but a genuine ball-winning manoeuvre is minutely scrutinised in slo-mo after a player stays down (incidentally I didn't see many / any Chelsea players appealing).
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
That's Chalobahs fault
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
At 53.34 ball went out for corner, 8 mins of added time was over, however ref allowed corner to be taken at 54.01 and Chelsea score. How biased is that?Not at all because the 8 minutes was a minimum: the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.
Silva should just refuse to bring them out for the second half. They’ve been fucked over here. Someone needs to make a stand.That would be brilliant if that actually happened.
Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?
Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?
the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.
And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
Or, have a stop-the-clock system, like they have in rugby.the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
Of course he will. But then we should be seeing 10 mins added on for all the other times the ball isn’t in play.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
VAR again making a dubious call, despite Joao Pedro's push on Anderson just prior.
And anyway, the defender was very close to Chalobah when the cross was attempted.
And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
What is jumping in an unnatural position? Who jumps like a pogo with their arms by their side.jumping like a pencil as you’re taught at Swimming Lessons as a kid is 100% unnatural.
no one will be able to justify additional time over the 8. I asked earlier. Tumbleweed.And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
I meant 9 :)
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
Walk them off Marco. You forfeit a 3-0 defeat but it would make an amazing point and would lead to some conversations at PGMOL that they clearly don’t take seriously.Would love that to happen. The officiating fucking stinks. I hope asap the PGMOL start fast tracking ex non league or ex pros who had their career cut short to start refereeing because any ex pro at any level isn't giving any of these.
1-0 to Middlesbrough beautiful pass from Matt Targett.
That part is true but unfortunately it's not going away. What I'm saying is VAR is irrelevant in both decisions as Rob Jones holds all the power and doesn't have to even go to the monitor, it's not mandate. He can either stick to his on field decision or choose to go to the monitor and still stick to his on field decision...he's too weak and that's the main issue.Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
They'd have been fried if they had.
35,000 odd at Stoke a/c to the BBC.Does it hold that many?
It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
Well, Neto played in the left earlier.It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.Same here. It's bent as a corkscrew now.
The handball for the penalty was as blatant as you’ll get...... other than the short distance between Chalobah and Sessegnon.
Under today's rules, it's a pen.They just make it up as they go tbh. The Fulham 'foul' lol was 65yds away from goal, not directly leading to the goal as other players were involved in both halves of the pitch, but still got disallowed and Pedro handled a few seconds before the 'pen' .
The Pedro hand ball doesn't directly lead to a goal, so it's not hand ball. Even though he effectively passes the ball to another Chelsea player when doing so.
Without the help from the officials, Chelsea really aren't that much.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.I am increasingly the same with other games. I only see MOTD highlights if we don’t lose but rarely watch an actual game.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.I am increasingly the same with other games. I only see MOTD highlights if we don’t lose but rarely watch an actual game.
Plays both but most of his career has been spent on the right. Estevao has taken up the right side since he came in. Suppose with Gittens and Garnacho that's your 4 players sorted for either of the flanks.Well, Neto played in the left earlier.It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.
I'm fuming and I'm not even a Fulham fan! This has been a disgusting refereeing performance. Biased, incompetent and, who knows, even corrupt.
I'll call it now. Man U will get a helping hand from the officials today.Don't they always, though? :'(
Penalty to Yanited.A story older than time...
Penalty to Yanited. Sounds like it's a very soft one.
Penalty to Yanited.A story older than time...
Grealish looking like a decent signing for Everton
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.Like us against Newcastle then. Hopefully tomorrow will be very different.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
2 2 manure
A defensive calamity for Manchester United who fail to deal with a long throw. Loum Tchaouna swings a boot at it, straight at Altay Bayindir but he spills the shot.
Jaidon Anthony, surrounded by red shirts, reacts first and pokes it goalwards. Kobbie Mainoo tries to clear, boots it off Bayindir, and the ball bobbles in.
Scabby penalty for manure again. How many fcuking more times.
Penalty. Anthony switches off for a second and it's a little one two around him from Amad. The shirt pull starts outside the box but continues inside. It's panic more than anything.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
A narrow win against relegation certainties. They'll be dancing in the streets of Home Counties towns tonight.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
He's gone before the next game anyway, IMO. Just hoping he isn't stupid enough to resign so the rats get away without paying him off.
thats outside if it was villa.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Hilarious times all round.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
The goalkeeping coach didn't concede in the hour or so he was on, seems a decent effort until right at the end.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Dorking is only 25 mins from us; we often go to the cinema there. Need to try and get to a few local grounds and that is one
thats outside if it was villa.
Wouldn't have even been looked at anyway, but I do remember us not getting anything because although there was pulling back, it apparently didn;t continue into the box as the player is wrapped around Rogers.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Every time I watch JJ I could weep. Why him? Exactly what we need going forward.
Ramsey off injured....
Every time I watch JJ I could weep. Why him? Exactly what we need going forward.
More importantly than all this - Moroccan Chicken Stew?….I've googled it. Sounds amazing.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Dorking is only 25 mins from us; we often go to the cinema there. Need to try and get to a few local grounds and that is one
They're quite a nice story - didn't exist until 2007 and a bloke decided that he didn't want to be a Wimbledon fan anymore so set up a new club.
Took them from the 17th tier to the 5th tier (relegated to ours, the 6th last season).
He's still the owner, chairman and manager today after nearly 700 matches.
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
And they win. 1-0 v Real Sociedad. Donk played the whole game.
Things that were guaranteed today - Brentford losing after their win last week and Man Utd getting a late penalty.
Things that were guaranteed today - Brentford losing after their win last week and Man Utd getting a late penalty.
The Brentford loss doesn't surprise me in the slightest,
Have man united won the league? What’s with their obsession on Saturday night football?
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
And they win. 1-0 v Real Sociedad. Donk played the whole game.
The Chelsea penalty had a Chelsea handball in it which was ignored, then a Fulham and all which was given. It’s just not subtle any more.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Except for when it's Morgan Rogers shirt being tugged by a Forest player in the box.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Wasn't it his arm that was being pulled back not his shirt?Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Except for when it's Morgan Rogers shirt being tugged by a Forest player in the box.
Once again VAR proving to the world just how clueless they are. The referee should be ashamed of his oart in that. For him to announce on the tannoy "careless challenge" is laughable. The Fulham player wasn't making a challenge. The Chelsea player was. He had the chance to watch it on the screen and still managed to get it completely arse about face.Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Regarding the Chel v Ful game yesterday.
🚨 Michael Salisbury replaced by John Brooks as VAR for #LFC v #AFC. It follows PGMOL acknowledging Salisbury made an error in disallowing Fulham's goal at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Salisbury’s intervention was not in line with the PGMOL’s high bar for VAR intervention.
Also understand Howard Webb contacted Fulham directly yesterday.
The Auld Firm was the perfect warm up for this evening. Devoid of any quality or incidents of note.
The Auld Firm was the perfect warm up for this evening. Devoid of any quality or incidents of note.
It was so dull, the Rangers fans were singing they were only ankle deep in Fenian blood.
Lucas Paqueta is furious as Tomas Soucek gets in his way in the centre of the park and West Ham briefly lose the ball.
The Brazilian looks to be on a different wavelength to most of his team-mates.
Regarding the Chel v Ful game yesterday.
🚨 Michael Salisbury replaced by John Brooks as VAR for #LFC v #AFC. It follows PGMOL acknowledging Salisbury made an error in disallowing Fulham's goal at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Salisbury’s intervention was not in line with the PGMOL’s high bar for VAR intervention.
Also understand Howard Webb contacted Fulham directly yesterday.
Empty gestures that don't change a thing.
brighton losing keeps us out the bottom 3
Pretty much all the football I have seen so far this season, in the PL and the Championship, has been slow, dull and predictable.
56-year-old James Milner sends Villa into the relegation zone.
19th
19th
Yes. And probably 8th if we win later.
Having seen Kerkez a couple of times now he looks bang averagewho Wirtz , yeah he does .
Even Drurys struggling to get excited about this oneHe's normally the first one up for a game of sticky biscuit when it comes to anything Anfield. What a c**t.
Not watching the game but I can only assume Drury has blown his load multiple times across your screens in the first 45 minutes.
Liverpool look really unimpressive so far this season.
definitely KerkezHaving seen Kerkez a couple of times now he looks bang averagewho Wirtz , yeah he does .
Liverpool look really unimpressive so far this season.
Slob suffering from an embarrassment of riches.
For God’s sake, just call this boring match a 0-0 draw and get the mighty Villa on!!
You knew that was going in when Drury said Arsenal hadn't conceded a goal yet.Has he climaxed yet?
You knew that was going in when Drury said Arsenal hadn't conceded a goal yet.Has he finished climaxeding yet?
I reckon the fat Greek lad is going to fire Nuno after this result.Mourinho incoming
Gyokores looks like a dud for the Arse
Pretty much all the football I have seen so far this season, in the PL and the Championship, has been slow, dull and predictable.
Sesko looks worse.Gyokores looks like a dud for the Arse
He does, doesn't he? Looked crap every time I've seen him.
Kazakhstan vs Wales at 3pm on BBC One
Wasn;t sure where to place this, but trckles might be harder to come by?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q4l0d171o
Wales 1-0 up against Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan Are no mugs, I can see them getting back into it. It’s played on an artificial surface which I think shouldn’t be allowed at international level.
There's no internationals in January for that reason. There used to be no European matches either but that's changed.It’s still very different to play on because the ball bounces differently.
Having said which, this isn't Boundary Park or Kenilworth Road in the 80s, artificial turf is decent stuff now as far as I'm aware
Wales 1-0 up against Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan Are no mugs, I can see them getting back into it. It’s played on an artificial surface which I think shouldn’t be allowed at international level.
Isn't that a bit unrealistic? What if you're, I dunno, Faroe Islands and you have a home fixture in January?
Plastic pitches are completely different to what they were like in the eighties. It would be unreasonable to expect all the snow for six months a year/no rain for eleven months a year countries to have grass pitches, and most of the FAs aren't exactly swimming in cash. Artificial surfaces are much cheaper/easier to maintain. They should be allowed in the Premiership, IMO.
New Belgium captain Tielemans scores their second in Liechtenstein.
why dont cash do that for us
why dont cash do that for us
Because Unai doesn’t let him cross the halfway line.
Matty’s goal. Quite nice I have to say.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1963700838263558518?s=46
Matty’s goal. Quite nice I have to say.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1963700838263558518?s=46
And just look at his face!!!
Hon the Alba, I'm bored of watching Denmark in major tournaments.So am I. The coverage is hysterical in more way than one.
Greece already two up. They'll win this group, IMO. Have got some real talent.
McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.
Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
Surely Scotland can find a better player than Che Adams? I don't think think I've ever seen him have a good game.
Apologies for missing out the second J. Autocorrect changed it to something bizarre and I got distracted.McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.
Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
I hope we don't sign him, imagine the misspellings of his name there'd be on here.
Scotland on top but if only Robertson could cross a ball....
Right decision, the slight push probably saved him.
Scotland keeper isn't the best.
Scotland keeper isn't the best.
And it's an amazing double save from Gunn (even if it was offside).
Morocco the latest team to qualify, joining Paraguay, Uruguay and Colombia who did so last night.
I wish the whole of 2030 World Cup was in South America, that would have been ace. Never mind.
The first three games are being hosted in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay, the rest of the tournament is being co-hosted by Spain, Portugal and Morocco.
Then we have 2034 in Saudi Arabia to look forward to...
The first three games are being hosted in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay, the rest of the tournament is being co-hosted by Spain, Portugal and Morocco.
Then we have 2034 in Saudi Arabia to look forward to...
If they really want to pay tribute to the 1930 edition everyone should get a great massive steamer across the ocean. I propose the FIFA delegation go in a copy of the Titanic.
Right.
Almost as if a group of stakeholders in Middle Eastern airlines with undue influence within the game are helping to make these decisions in their own interest.
(Obviously not!)
Truro with a near 900 mile round trip to Carlisle today.
I’m at Doncaster v Bradford today. Top of the table clash. It’s just so nice to be relaxed at a game where I have no heart palpitations either way.
Why do I have a rational displeasure of seeing Dan Burn in an England shirt?I'm trying to think of a worse England player in the last 30 years and I'm struggling even though there is a lot of competition.
Why do I have an irrational rational displeasure of seeing Dan Burn in an England shirt?
I know we welcomed the international break due to our circumstances but fuck me it still drags. The media trying to hype up the Women's PL to nonsensical levels but we still have the Blast QF later I suppose.Talksport not doing a very good job on me, trying to hype the WSL. As soon as they start talking about that, there’s a very quick change of channel. No interest it it whatsoever and would prefer to go to a non league match.
No Villa in England's starting 11 so that's not worth bothering with either.
Who let the dreaded drummer boy in. >:(
England turned into us with slowing down the ball, not spotting the runs and playing back so Andorra get back to cover.Was just about to say the same. It might be the new grass after all.
Why the empty seats?They give us a game after 20 years and it’s mighty Andorra, so no surprise.
Brilliant goalAbsolutely, lovely measured header pick the corner.
Not getting the Anderson wankfest either. It’s Andorra for pity’s sake.
Who were the 11 villa players given their legacy caps before the game ?
Burn controlling things and picking out passes like prime Pirlo.
Why the empty seats?
Even though it wouldn't have counted, that was shocking from Eze.Against us his shooting was prime Messi.
Only just switched on so don't know how accurate it is, but the Danish commentators slaughtering the entire back 4 four for their use of the ball.Burn controlling things and picking out passes like prime Pirlo.
So much of modern football seems to end up with your worst technical player having the most of the ball...step forward Dan Burns.
Why are they televising it in Denmark?TV2 have streaming rights to all the qualifiers.
God this is boring.
Not sure why Konsa is coming on for.
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Have Ireland got a player who will shoot from anywhere to piss them off like Matty Cash?
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Have Ireland got a player who will shoot from anywhere to piss them off like Matty Cash?
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
Good old Wilkesy. I wonder what happened to him.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
Another goal for Matty Cash.
Norn Iron level in Germany.
I was surprised Türkiye beat Georgia.
Belarus national side and club sides in Europe have to play home games in a neutral country and behind closed doors.Thanks. Hungary is hardly neutral as Viktor Orban licks Putin’s balls at every opportunity.
Israel beating Italy despite having 0 shots. Italy really are shit these days.
Great cross from McGinn which led to Scotland's goal.
I doubt Italy have ever been involved in a competitive game, which ended 4-5.They've probably gone through qualifying campaigns with lower scores.
Penalty to Armenia.
Penalty to Armenia.
Very harsh/corrupt call that one. If Collins had ducks they would drown!
I thought they’d already played both games.
Who’s Anderson? I’ve not heard of him
Who’s Anderson? I’ve not heard of him
England XI: Pickford, James, Rice, Konsa, Guehi, Gordon, Kane, Rogers, Livramento, Madueke, Anderson.Ollie should have started.
England XI: Pickford, James, Rice, Konsa, Guehi, Gordon, Kane, Rogers, Livramento, Madueke, Anderson.Ollie should have started.
3-1 to Armenia, it's been an absolute shocker. Would have been more if it wasn't for Kelleher.
I've only watched from the 68th minute but fuck me Ireland are fucking atrocious.
Ned playing for Serbia too!
It’s that good ref’ can’t remember his name
Ha! He sure does.It’s that good ref’ can’t remember his name
Leandro Trossard.
I've only watched from the 68th minute but fuck me Ireland are fucking atrocious.
The entire back line too afraid to quickly pop the ball into Anderson or Rogers. Always sideways.And when they do it they create their best chance
Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.He keeps calling for it in between the lines in space but Konsa and Guehi shit their pants.
His bird is alright and you know as well as I do she's with him because of his hair....and face.Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
He seriously does need to reconsider his look. And why doesn't Kane tell him to go play on the wing?
Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
He seriously does need to reconsider his look.
The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.That worked.😂
If you can try the same at anout 3.15pm on Saturday 😉The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.That worked.😂
Ned playing for Serbia too!
We’ll see if he’s one to keep or another to help us through the Labyrinth of PSR rules.
Thought it was going to be disallowed for offside so wasn't cheering it.
Villa players keep on scoring when not playing for Villa.Yep there's always a downside to things if you look hard enough 🙄
I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
Ah yeah - just went back through my browser history - I read "Madueke Doubles England.." as "Madueke Double"..I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
😁Ah yeah - just went back through my browser history - I read "Madueke Doubles England.." as "Madueke Double"..I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
Stay tuned for more great insights
Good to see young Henderson get a few minutes.
Norway add a tenth.
Think cause he landed on the ball it looked a bit odd
I wonder who will take it.
Five live gushing about the performance and listing the players that weren't available tonight that will come back into the side, which is precisely where England have gone wrong before.
Five live gushing about the performance and listing the players that weren't available tonight that will come back into the side, which is precisely where England have gone wrong before.
Keane just called Rogers "like Gazza in his prime".Missed the game but wow! Thats high praise indeed.
I noticed that Edin Dzeko scored for Bosnia tonight, he’s been around for ages and I didn’t realise he was still playing international football.
I noticed that Edin Dzeko scored for Bosnia tonight, he’s been around for ages and I didn’t realise he was still playing international football.
I remember hearing a ridiculous stat about him the other week, which I now can't remember.
But it's something like the top scorers in world football for the last twenty years is Ronaldo / Messi / Dzeko / a massive gap / all other players.
It's not that, but there is a stat of that ilk which is very impressive.
Just finished watching the England game.
Blimey that was a fun watch.
Thoroughly enjoyed it and have to say well played to the team.
Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
(Read the next post and it will save you finger skin.) As Dave said. Qualifying has mostly been a walk in the park, we will judge Tuchel in a tournament QFs or semi when England are one down.Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
(Read the next post and it will save you finger skin.) As Dave said. Qualifying has mostly been a walk in the park, we will judge Tuchel in a tournament QFs or semi when England are one down.Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
Serbia were the next best team to England in the group and seen as a potential banana skin. They’re far better opposition than North Macedonia or any of the countries listed as the FIFA rankings show.
Yup. Losing to Senegal wasn't a sign that Tuchel was terrible, thrashing Serbia isn't a sign that he's brilliant. Losing to Hungary wasn't a sign that Southgate was terrible, thrashing Ukraine wasn't a sign that he was brilliant.
Now that England have basically qualified (like they always do now), there's very little that Tuchel can do to show anything one way or the other until the World Cup starts.
But if I were a betting man, my money would be firmly on "getting through the group comfortably before going out to the first team England play that is better than them", like it has been since since 2018.
Which in itself is still an improvement on the previous decade, which was "getting knocked at some point early on by a team not as good as them".
[/b]Yup. Losing to Senegal wasn't a sign that Tuchel was terrible, thrashing Serbia isn't a sign that he's brilliant. Losing to Hungary wasn't a sign that Southgate was terrible, thrashing Ukraine wasn't a sign that he was brilliant.
Now that England have basically qualified (like they always do now), there's very little that Tuchel can do to show anything one way or the other until the World Cup starts.
But if I were a betting man, my money would be firmly on "getting through the group comfortably before going out to the first team England play that is better than them", like it has been since since 2018.
Which in itself is still an improvement on the previous decade, which was "getting knocked at some point early on by a team not as good as them".
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Livramento didn't do too badly there last night (albeit it wasn't a Yamal he was up against). He has also played there regularly for his club so it is not like he is only playing there for his country.
I still think they could do more with Qualifying football to make it more interesting . They should look at what they have done with the Champs league and maybe have a similar format .
I still think they could do more with Qualifying football to make it more interesting . They should look at what they have done with the Champs league and maybe have a similar format .
Yeah a Conmebol style all in one table would be fab.
Nations League is fine but should be at the end of qualifying, and just have the best 8-12 teams from qualifying enter in a knockout format.
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
I reckon midfield has gone from a problem position to fairly well-stocked. The emergence of Anderson and Wharton means that one of those, alongside Rice means it's not the problem that it once was. It's not France or Portugal, but at least it's upper-end of the Premier League good.
Right-back isn't as strong as other areas in the team, but whether it ends up being Livramento, James or Alexander-Arnold there aren't too many countries with an obviously better one.
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Norway eleven.
I think the "Champions League style" set up VILLA MOLE suggested would give those teams a mixture of games against teams at their own level while still offering them the chance to play the bigger teams (and, crucially, still get money from hosting said opponents).
Has Pickford ever let England down in tournament football? Tends to lose the head a bit and whack the ball down the pitch. But he's done well really considering the pressure on him and decent on penos.
I think the "Champions League style" set up VILLA MOLE suggested would give those teams a mixture of games against teams at their own level while still offering them the chance to play the bigger teams (and, crucially, still get money from hosting said opponents).
The money thing is important, but I think the objection to doing that sort of format is that the matches you'd play aren't then massively different to tournament qualification.
There's already plenty of opportunity to play eight-to-ten matches where you're divided into a group ranked by rough ability from best to worst, so why do the same thing again.
Philogene with 2 for Ipswich.
Hat-trick for Jaden.
Hat-trick for Jaden.
Good one too.
Fantastic performance by Jaden. Really chuffed for him.
What about Louie Barry?
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Been very Villarey in the early Championship games. Goals for Dobbin, Ayew and Targett, Aaron Ramsey sent off.
That should have been a goal. A lot of games are so dull now and when we do get goals VAR scrub them out.
Been very Villarey in the early Championship games. Goals for Dobbin, Ayew and Targett, Aaron Ramsey sent off.
Brentford 1 up. You know this ending 2-1 chelsea
Brentford 1 up. You know this ending 2-1 chelsea
Fucking knew it. What a shit weekend spurs and chelsea winning
You just know Liverpool are still going to win this game, probably between the 85th min and end of injury time.
Was it a dodgy handball?About as clear cut as you can get.
Dopy sod. Was he at the Sty on loan previously?He was.
Not convincing today Liverpool, in fact they haven't been in any of their 4 matches, plus the Community Shield.
Is proximity not a thing in the handball assessment? It was whacked at him from close range, no?
Is proximity not a thing in the handball assessment? It was whacked at him from close range, no?
silva always gets a way with bookings
silva always gets a way with bookings
Is he on his eighth and final warning?
suppose I want the 115 crew to win as it keeps us with manure to fight to stay up.
Same here but it does make me feel dirty.
ITS BRYAN MBUEMO!!!
Great header by Foden. He still does the gun celebration thing. What a complete bell end he is, not an ounce of intelligence.
8 PL games he’s won. Four against newly promoted sides.And the token gesture we always give them.
8 PL games he’s won. Four against newly promoted sides.And the token gesture we always give them.
I think Emery will be there by the international break.
I think Emery will be there by the international break.
Does anyone know how tall is Donnarumma? If only Drury had mentioned his height….
I didnt realise the chumps league started today . thought it was league cup week.
Spurs gifted the lead by the keeper who cuts out a cross by pulling it in and then pushing it out into the net.
A team that sounds like they're owned by LeeB has come from two down to lead at Benfica.Without checking I guess Qarabag?
Millwall level at Palace.
S.V.Caravan.A team that sounds like they're owned by LeeB has come from two down to lead at Benfica.Without checking I guess Qarabag?
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
That’s what I said earlier too. I still have faith things will get better and this is a phase or moment in time. But at this moment contrasting to what other fans are enjoying, it’s all a bit poop.
Simeone completely lost it with the fans then.Yes but it’s Liverpool fans, anyone can lose it with them.
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
I made a complaint to the BBC about it and got a fluff answer back. I've responded and asked for more detail about decisions.
This was their intial response:
"We note your concerns about the level of coverage being devoted to Manchester United.
Choosing the stories to include in our football pages, the order in which they appear and the space devoted to them are subjective matters and we know not every reader will feel we get it right every time.
Factors such as whether it is a breaking story and needs immediate coverage, how unusual the story is or how much national interest there is in a particular match will all play a part in deciding the level of coverage.
Each story is chosen on its own merit and we can assure you that we would never display bias towards a particular club. Essentially this is a judgement call rather than an exact science, but the team at the BBC Sport website appreciate the feedback when readers feel a particular team may be receiving too much attention."
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
Is Ramsey injured? not even on the Newcastle bench.Yeah, ankle/foot worryingly. Out till 18/10
Club Brugge pishing all over Monaco. 3-0 at half time with 17 overall chances, 9 on target.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
The only thing I'd offer on this is that it might be as innocent as they're just fucking lazy so stories about the clubs in the same city as MediaCity are just easier because a lot of the junior staff are locals who follow them.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
I made a complaint to the BBC about it and got a fluff answer back. I've responded and asked for more detail about decisions.
This was their intial response:
"We note your concerns about the level of coverage being devoted to Manchester United.
Choosing the stories to include in our football pages, the order in which they appear and the space devoted to them are subjective matters and we know not every reader will feel we get it right every time.
Factors such as whether it is a breaking story and needs immediate coverage, how unusual the story is or how much national interest there is in a particular match will all play a part in deciding the level of coverage.
Each story is chosen on its own merit and we can assure you that we would never display bias towards a particular club. Essentially this is a judgement call rather than an exact science, but the team at the BBC Sport website appreciate the feedback when readers feel a particular team may be receiving too much attention."
“Never display bias” the bare faced cheek of them. There’s clear bias where ManU are concerned. It’s so blatant I can barely watch any football show on the BBC lately.
Rashford has been very poor to date, then has struck a very fine header.It was a free header TBF.
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Newcastle ain’t Chelsea.Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Totally agree. When Chelski won it the 1st time, was horrible listening to them sing “ we know what we are…champions of Europe” all the following season.
I thought he retired.To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
His contract wasn't renewed, and he wasn't best pleased. https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5/
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.You kind of knew that would happen.
I thought he retired.To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
His contract wasn't renewed, and he wasn't best pleased. https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5/
I can remember his radio commentary from about 1979.
He was so red. Mainly Liverpool but went a bit ManU at times. His bias was ridiculous.
I don't hate Newcastle, but certainly not cheering them on amd pleased Rashford has scores a few.Same here. I want Grimsby and Accrington to win every European game.
Only non-Villa English teams I can remember hoping would do well in Europe were Middlesbrough and Fulham.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
There are haves and have nots, and Newcastle are playing without a striker.
You make a good point, though; they come out of the hutch firing on all cylinders, and it works sometimes.
Newcastle ain’t Chelsea.Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Totally agree. When Chelski won it the 1st time, was horrible listening to them sing “ we know what we are…champions of Europe” all the following season.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
There are haves and have nots, and Newcastle are playing without a striker.
You make a good point, though; they come out of the hutch firing on all cylinders, and it works sometimes.
They had a £70mil on the bench. Their choice not to play a striker, or get another backup in to replace Wilson.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
Think he was out.
Didn't help them that Tonali and Joelinton had stinkers. Bruno Guimaraes was their only CM that played well.
That is true.
Gordon comes out on fire, though, and it has worked for them a few times.
The Isak issue has clearly had an effect, just as our transfer window has had an effect on us.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
Think he was out.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.You kind of knew that would happen.
Bit naive.
Illing Jr can't get in the Albion team.Probabaly why they are losing 2-0.
Long throws are big these days.A lot of them are foul throws.
Illing Jr can't get in the Albion team.
My cousins son is a huge Boggies fan and is doing his sports degree there. He has been the boiler and Boggy bird mascot on occasions. He went against his Dad and supported them over Villa, deep down he knows he made a huge error.
Is that a correct link as it is a quiz for naming Chelsea/Manu players from the 2008 final.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
agreed - I was almost cringing at the 'get Jack back' talk - but he's not as finished I thought.Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
Apparently on less wages and would’ve generated some much needed hope. I’d have been dead against it mind, but then I hadn’t expected it to start like this…
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
Beto would probably be the best player on our pitch had we signed him :DJack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
He’d have been the best player on our pitch if we signed him.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
probbaly bottom at the mo.
probbaly bottom at the mo.
Nope. Leeds equalise.
Watching the Wolves game, they really are absolute turboshite.
Harsh?
it was that Alan Smith who put doubt in my head 😂Harsh?
Not at all. He’s on a yellow. He puts his arm across the forward and pulls him over. That’s a yellow every time.
Harsh?
Not at all. He’s on a yellow. He puts his arm across the forward and pulls him over. That’s a yellow every time. Or in his case a second one. And then he shakes his head all the way to the tunnel. Such an injustice. Wanker
I think it is harsh if the “higher threshold” for a 2nd yellow became an actual thing.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
Brentford turned into their kit
Second Fulham goal is v good move and finish
Really good game this. Both look infinitely better than us currently.
Haalands goal demonstrating everything that was missing from our forward play today. It's enough to make me weep.
Haalands goal demonstrating everything that was missing from our forward play today. It's enough to make me weep.
I found myself thinking we could do with a lot of what Doku was providing, as well.
it was like watching a different sport. The ball moving around quickly.
Just how thick are football players these days. Already having been booked, Etikike then takes off his shirt after scoring and, gets sent off!!
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Something about a shirt?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Something about a shirt?
Tried to give his shirt to a kid suffering from cancer, and the heartless ref sent him off.
Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
maybe, but he looks like a great acquisition.Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
But he has come over as part of the obviously dodgy relationship that Forest have with Botafogo.
Forest playing like we used to. Brazilian fella in centre mid looks decent.He's been subbed 😁
Well done Ange.Yes, well done Ange.
Tonight’s games… zzzzzz
Genk missed a penalty in their match against Rangers.
Genk take the lead against Rangers.Bosh
Silver lining from tonight, Genk 2-0 up.
Oviedo score their second goal of the season to lead Barca 1-0 at the break.
Only three 2000 KO matches have had goals yet.
Iling-Junior starting for Sandwell.
It was indeed.Iling-Junior starting for Sandwell.
And scoring. Very well taken goal.
They hate each other.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
Anyone could score for Bayern Munich.Go on, Smirker and Sexual Ealing, I've left you a tap-in, here.
Are Cumsock going to win?
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
I thought they said he needed 2 tonight, I must have misheard.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
I thought they said he needed 2 tonight, I must have misheard.
He has two.
Baggies snatch a point from the jaws of a win.
For some reason (possibly because he played for Spurs) not overly enamoured with him previously, now kind of pleased for him that his move to Bayern's working out.Sorry Lizz, Bayern are utter c words and can never wish anyone well playing for them.
Baggies snatch a point from the jaws of a win.
Oh no! That’s a shame. And I always like to see all the midlands teams do well as well.
How very dare you, sir. I’ve never been so insulted in my life.Really? What about that day in 2013 when CoopersInjury agreed 100% with your post?
:DHow very dare you, sir. I’ve never been so insulted in my life.Really? What about that day in 2013 when CoopersInjury agreed 100% with your post?
Thiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
I quite like that Colombian bloke at FenerbacheThiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
There are no good strikers that we could possibly get.
Thiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
There are no good strikers that we could possibly get.
Yes Brentford get Thiago who was out injured most of last season, Forest get Igor Jesus and Brighton regularly pick up good players. Our recruitment pales in comparison really.
Rat-face missed a penalty.
Rat-face missed a penalty.
Pretty obvious red card not given, too. Shame.
Premier League Match Centre on X: "The referee’s call of penalty was checked and confirmed by VAR – with Collins deemed to pulled Mbeumo back. VAR also checked the referee’s call of yellow card to Collins - and deemed that Mbeumo wasn’t in control of the ball."
This is the first time Coventry will have started a season with seven games without defeat since their League One campaign in 2019.
It's their best run in the top two divisions since the Premier League season of 1993-94.
Frank Lampard really has got them ticking hasn't he?
All that money and your fucking shit sing Cov fans 😊And so say Brentford fans. :D
He could clearly have got a shot off. Mad decision.
He could clearly have got a shot off. Mad decision.Stop it. It's little morsels other clubs get against that lot that we should savour.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
great goal well done brentford
or IraolaNext man into Old Trafford?Glasner
Fergie time not worked this time for ManU.And it was glorious to behold. Ratface missing a pen and a blatant red card going against them as well. If Carlsberg made football matches......
I've actually enjoyed a lot of late goals today. That never happens.
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been usI’d give anything to play half as well as Palace do……instead of the Tuesday night walking football shite we play.
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Was listening to Andy Goldstein moaning about Chelsea on radio and their fan caller said 'Meresca has go to go and get Emery in, he deserves a chance at a big club". A few minutes later a manu fan 'Amorim not goof enough another mistake job is too big for him" Who do want? "It has to be Emery, he proved at.... (wait for it)... at Arsenal he can handle big clubs".or IraolaNext man into Old Trafford?Glasner
*Pet Shop Boys with (Johnny Marr guesting)I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Not just in London. In Croydon
Music: The Smiths - This Must Be The Place I've Waited Years To Leave
Wow...Adama Traore's last Premier League goal was for...us...
*Pet Shop Boys with (Johnny Marr guesting)I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Not just in London. In Croydon
Music: The Smiths - This Must Be The Place I've Waited Years To Leave
Wolves 1-0 up at Spurs. S Bueno?I am missing Daniel's face they always zoomed in on whenever the calamity befell the chosen people.
Si, es bueno.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
hope not . he is a bloody good manager.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
hope not . he is a bloody good manager.
He is. Just watched the Palace highlights from yesterday, they were superb. Liverpool meanwhile were defensively all over the place.
Whew. Means we won't be the only team without a league win come Monday.That comment has aged well!
Whew. Means we won't be the only team without a league win come Monday.That comment has aged well!
How in the name of Christ has that been overturned?
West Ham can only do one thing at a time...no one told them that they will have to deal with the ball coming back in again.
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?I think it means thst Everton's chances were relatively difficult. Can only remember the goal which wasn't easy and a shot from N'Diaye which was more of a backpass from distance.
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I do wonder why they botherI'm sure as part of a suite of stats it's useful to professional coaches and scouts it's of some value, but to Joe public?
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?
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Thought Grealish was poor, very ineffective.
When analysing the performance of teams in one particular match, agreed. When used over a much larger quantity of matches as one of a number of figures you could utilise to assess the quality of strikers, it seems a perfectly reasonable tool.
All stats are a load of old bollocks
the eye test and score are the only things that matter
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?
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It’s absolute nonsense…eyes can tell you who is on top etc. Football is not an exact science do expected tells you it means nothing. Football is on grass not spreadsheets
On the game - Diouf won’t be slumming it at pointless club West Ham for long-looks a player
Thought Grealish was poor, very ineffective.
Marseille 2 up against Ajax after 12 minutes.That lad Paixao has been watching McGinn shoot.
And 3-0 to Atletico.
Ffs. All the wankers winning tonight.
Tottenham and Liverpool aren't. Obviously the latter means Galatasaray are if you hate them more then the Redscouse.I'll take Galatasaray winning over the self entitled wankers from Anfield.
Didn't even know that what were playing until I looked up who Wednesday were playing.And 3-0 to Atletico.
Ffs. All the wankers winning tonight.
Not so, Sheffield Wednesday have equalised.
Birmingham 1-1 Sheff Wed
Dissention!
Chris Davies makes three changes, with Seung-Ho Paik, Marc Leonard and Lewis Koumas coming on, but the withdrawal of Tommy Doyle and Patrick Roberts is greeted with boos from the home fans, on a 28-match unbeaten run at St Andrew's, while Bright Osayi-Samuel is also withdrawn.
Spurs now 2-0 down?
Blose equalise in the 10th of 8 added minutes.Thats about the third time they've done that this season. Jammy tramps.
2-2 Spurs equalise
I've noticed they always have an inordinate amount of time added onBlose equalise in the 10th of 8 added minutes.Thats about the third time they've done that this season. Jammy tramps.
Very close offside call going to Spurs. Without VAR there would have been no question of offside with this.2-2 Spurs equalise
Seemed to take an age giving it, I haven’t got the commentary on, I’m presuming it was for a possible handball rather than offside?
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Watched the Chelsea Benfica game in a pub in the smoke. Full of the usual self entitled Chelsea tossers moaning. I thought Barrenechea was decent.
Watched the Chelsea Benfica game in a pub in the smoke. Full of the usual self entitled Chelsea tossers moaning. I thought Barrenechea was decent.
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Shouldn't have been booked. He didn't simulate, he just fell over Martínez.
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Shouldn't have been booked. He didn't simulate, he just fell over Martínez.
He simulated falling over Martinez
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spurs have not been good tonight. but it’s the mark of a great side that *even* when you don’t play well, you can still grind out a point against a tiny Narnian fishing village
Barcelona 1 up at home to PSG.Rashford assist. He loves playing them lot.
Barcelona 1 up at home to PSG.Rashford assist. He loves playing them lot.
Barcelona’s defensive positioning for the winner was shocking
Rangers losing.Queens Park?
Rangers losing.
Rangers losing.
To be fair this could have been posted any time in the last two months.
Devasted that Celtic lost and Rangers are losing. Very devasted indeed.
Would be nice to see Forest crash in Europe. They're no Palace, but I think I'd be less confident against them in Europe than pretty much anyone else in it.Its his first season, they aren't winning shit, we are!
Would be nice to see Forest crash in Europe. They're no Palace, but I think I'd be less confident against them in Europe than pretty much anyone else in it.Its his first season, they aren't winning shit, we are!
Tough one for them. Form goes out the window in an East Midtjyllands Derby.
Blose losing to Wrexham 0-1. I see that idiot Tom Wagner was interviewed before the game with his silly woollen hat. Where are these 60,000 fans coming from?
He’s in with da away fans.
Liverpool getting done in added time is still funny though.
Liverpool getting done in added time is still funny though.
Watching the energy, pace, and abilities of these two teams, I feel like we are miles off from their level.
Jambos get a late winner to go five points clear, though Celtic play tomorrow.
Watching the energy, pace, and abilities of these two teams, I feel like we are miles off from their level.
Jaden has just scored an absolute scorchio
clearly found his level - again - good for him.
Grealish just saying he ran to where his mum and dad were sitting. Presumably he was donned in his Everton shirt.
Clinton Morrison
Former Premier League striker on BBC Radio 5 Live at St. James' Park
Newcastle were far too strong in the second half. Good managers get a good response from half-time talks.
Forest, it was always going to be hard but I don't think they need to be rash by getting rid of Ange. I think he needs more time on the training ground.
Grealish just saying he ran to where his mum and dad were sitting. Presumably he was donned in his Everton shirt.
Wouldn't Jack have been booked if he had tool his Everton shirt off?
I like this from Swansea yesterday
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Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Second smallest I believe, after Iceland in 2018.
But it's absolutely the reason why the tedious bit of international football ("oh no, England only won 2-0 against Armenia and it wasn't the most exciting game I've ever watched, scrap the lot of it") is still worth it.
Cape Verde having their moment and going to the World Cup (Eswatini notwithstanding) is more important in the grand scheme of things than...pretty much all of it.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Second smallest I believe, after Iceland in 2018.
But it's absolutely the reason why the tedious bit of international football ("oh no, England only won 2-0 against Armenia and it wasn't the most exciting game I've ever watched, scrap the lot of it") is still worth it.
Cape Verde having their moment and going to the World Cup (Eswatini notwithstanding) is more important in the grand scheme of things than...pretty much all of it.
Sorry Dave, I should have specified they’d be the smallest by land mass. Rory Smith said about 4000 square km
Rogers, Watkins and Konsa all starting
She will not stop bloody ringing me. ☹️
Villa 2 0 Wales....
Great stuff. Looked offside?
Great stuff. Looked offside?
On I though by an inch, the Wales player was just playing him on.
England finally look like a team.
Wales look abysmal, possession in our half and it ends with an England freekick in theirs.we have them on toast on both flanks...and through the middle with Rogers lol...
Take him off TuchelYes. If he had been moving with more pace that could have been really nasty.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
Ollie not looking good
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Pull him off at HT, I say.Ollie not looking good
Alright, calm down, Smirker!
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Looked like his knee twisted wrong when he collided.That's what I said but F in Dixon going on about his shin and shin pads :-[
Pull him off at HT, I say.
And if Harvey Elliot did that we'll understand.Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Yes, I wasn’t altogether serious. He’s definitely moving gingerly.
Anyone good on stats? When was the last time 2 Villa players scored for England?I will start: Never.
Anyone good on stats? When was the last time 2 Villa players scored for England?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.No one's going to get upset, it's not as if it was against Scotland?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.No one's going to get upset, it's not as if it was against Scotland?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Arthur Brown was on fire.It was a crazy world back then.
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
We only used to get a slice of orange when I played.
Pull him off at HT, I say.
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Scotland have been absolute pish but somehow in front.Ref has lost his whistle...oh he's found it.
Faroes stuffed Montenegro 4-0.That somehow doesn't surprise me. I went to a Montenegrin top division game in the summer and there were only around 400 people there and most were the players' families. And that was at last season's runners up but for some reason it was free to get it. All the locals seem to support Serbian clubs.
Considering their population they get some pretty impressive results.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
You tend to do well against them.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Big turning point in the match was a brilliant save from Angus Gunn to keep it at 2-1, then moments later the Greek goalie gifts Dykes the goal, which finishes the match off.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Big turning point in the match was a brilliant save from Angus Gunn to keep it at 2-1, then moments later the Greek goalie gifts Dykes the goal, which finishes the match off.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
Just a head full of useless football facts really. For example I know Oliver Vaughton's family company was involved in naking the FA Cup trophy at one point. I can’t remember what I'm supposed to be doing today without checking though.Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Blimey, I know we’re quite an old crowd on here, but fucking he’ll you must be Highlander.
Did it mention their 'never say Dai' mentality....men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Or as one of tomorrow’s papers says, ‘men against boyos’. Sorry Dinas.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Lots of info here about match receipts, where the England team stayed and dined after the game. But no overall order of who scored when.
http://englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0014Ire1882.html
Won the pen for the first as well. Also the stadium should be appreciated by some.
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Ivories won 7-0 and will qualify if they win their final game or Gabon fail to win theirs.
Dirge it may be but he is their King.I remember the Welsh national anthem being much livlier than that shitty dirge?And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
2-0, great goal for Northern Ireland.
Ivories won 7-0 and will qualify if they win their final game or Gabon fail to win theirs.
Evanny and Ivory play together in perfect harmony.
And the Slovakian keeper's punch! WTF - why not just catch it, sucker?!!2-0, great goal for Northern Ireland.Made a bit worse though because he was the twat who tried to break Morgan Rogers in half in the Sunderland game the other week.
The international break hammers home again when you put 5Live on and they are broadcast Rugby Union to absolutely no fucker.
Like that lot are going to listen to the Trotskyite BBC.
The international break hammers home again when you put 5Live on and they are broadcast Rugby Union to absolutely no fucker.
Like that lot are going to listen to the Trotskyite BBC.
I have a similar terror with 5 Live the weekend of the Ryder Cup. Golf is shit enough on TV never mid the radio
Presumably they think there is less of a chance that would-be attendees would choose instead to stay at home and watch Accrington Stanley vs Newport than, say, Man U vs Liverpool.
This has moral victory written all over it.
It's a bit Villa v Bayern twelve months/forty three years ago. Dunno who Eire's Durán or Morley is, though.
How did Bulgaria get to be so shit? Losing 3-0 to Spain no disgrace, but losing 3-0 in Georgia and now 6-1, at home, against Türkiye is pretty pathetic.
How did Bulgaria get to be so shit? Losing 3-0 to Spain no disgrace, but losing 3-0 in Georgia and now 6-1, at home, against Türkiye is pretty pathetic.
Tough....feel for our Irish community
It's good that Portugal are at home to Hungary on Tuesday, they don't have to travel and will be buoyed by the late win, so I'd expect them to win. We may not need to beat or even draw with Portugal in Dublin to finish second. But probably have to win in Budapest. And obviously, must beat Armenia on Tuesday.
Agree entirely.
Elsewhere, Yeimar Mosquera's Colombia beat South Africa 3-1 to go through to Under-20 World Cup QF.
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Why do Doncaster mean so much to you? The only Donny you should be loving is our Malen.
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Crushed by the Mighty O's, my hometown team. Good result for Orient.
Malen scores for Netherlands against Finland. Scotland seem to be going for the tactic of playing incredibly badly again, seeing as it worked against Greece.
Malen scores for Netherlands against Finland. Scotland seem to be going for the tactic of playing incredibly badly again, seeing as it worked against Greece.
Dispatched with aplomb, as they say.
https://x.com/AVFCStatto/status/1977406993762857253 (https://x.com/AVFCStatto/status/1977406993762857253)
The young kid Gannon-Doak looks a good prospect.
I hope Scotland are not given a pen as 2-0 is a dangerous lead.
Faroes 1 Czechia 0.
Faroes back in front.
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
You’ll struggle to see two worse performances get 6 points than those Scotland have put together…fair play to them!
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
Semi Final? I'm surprised anybody has recovered from the final in 2015. That's the closest I've ever come to knocking it on the head.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
Semi Final? I'm surprised anybody has recovered from the final in 2015. That's the closest I've ever come to knocking it on the head.
*adopts Brazilian accent* They're on the Verde of qualifying.
That Welsh national anthem was something else. England's is a dirge by comparison
Fair pointThat Welsh national anthem was something else. England's is a dirge by comparison
England's is a dirge compared to Agadoo.
Onana's having a bit of a stinkerWent down like the proverbial when a finger brushed cheek as well.
Bruno Fernandes just made an appearance at the Wales v Belgium game
Fabian Delph has just invaded the pitch.😀
Bruno Fernandes just made an appearance at the Wales v Belgium game
Actually that works better than mine, Delph was a snake, wasn't he?
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana was terrible
He looked like a 40 year old trying to keep up with play and always being 5 yards behind every one else
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana was terrible
He looked like a 40 year old trying to keep up with play and always being 5 yards behind every one else
Cabo Verde, 2026: almost certain to win tournament as debutants based on above evidence.
That’s an indisputable fact based on one event.Cabo Verde, 2026: almost certain to win tournament as debutants based on above evidence.
Plus a Portuguese speaking team always wins it when the tournament is held in the United States.
Cabo Verde have qualified, that's all that matters.
It's not that unusual. Like most countries, the kit reflects the colours of their flag. Also Greenland wear white and red, and Ivory Coast's first kit is orange and green rather than white.
Heroes don't always wear cabos.
Aston Villa Statto
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Both Ezri Konsa and Morgan Rogers 𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐓 tonight for England in a World Cup qualifier against Latvia in Riga 🇱🇻.
Konsa earns his 16th cap for England, while Morgan Rogers earns his 10th cap.
The England team looks very balanced tonight. Not the best players but everyone in their best positions.
Can’t remember which thread but there’s a debate about Kane as a false 9. I reckon Gordon is a pretty perfect foil for that, as he’s express pace looking to get behind. Kane should create some big gaps for him.
The England team looks very balanced tonight. Not the best players but everyone in their best positions.
Can’t remember which thread but there’s a debate about Kane as a false 9. I reckon Gordon is a pretty perfect foil for that, as he’s express pace looking to get behind. Kane should create some big gaps for him.
Looks a very good side. I thought Anderson was very impressive in the last match. He’s very good at moving the ball around quickly.
The one time I want Portugal to win 🙄
Kane misses a routine chance. If that had been Ollie he would have been slatedOnly by noses and few on here ;)
Yay cuddly Ronaldo.
Not his best half, for England, Rogers. Konsa looks sound
Not his best half, for England, Rogers. Konsa looks sound
I haven't seen most of the first half, but Rogers is getting into positions and being ignored mostly for other options. Has Konsa had anything to do?
Tuchel is going to have quite a few decisions to make really. England have looked a pretty coherent side over the past few games with players actually playing in their best positions.
The inclusion of Henderson remains pretty inexplicable though!
Tuchel is going to have quite a few decisions to make really. England have looked a pretty coherent side over the past few games with players actually playing in their best positions.
The inclusion of Henderson remains pretty inexplicable though!
It's not inexplicable, it's arguably unnecessary.
The explanation is that the likes of Anderson, Rogers, Konsa, Spence, Lewis-Skelly, Gordon, Gibbs-White, Burn, Eze, O'Reilly, Trafford and Henderson have about forty caps between the twelve of them, so you stick someone in who's been doing it for fifteen years to hold their hand.
Wouldn't do it myself, but it's not that stupid an idea in principle. If he's benching Anderson in the World Cup and playing Henderson, *that* would be inexplicable.
This is pretty neutral.
The commentator was talking about Harry Kane beating Jimmy Greaves record of hat tricks for England if he had scored from the free kick late on.
Harry Kane has a brilliant record 76 goals in 110 apps, but he doesn't beat Jimmy Greaves record of goals per game. Kane has a goals per game record of 0.69 Greaves scored 44 in 57 apps goals per game 0.77.
^^ Not a great game but I was very distracted with all this MTA stuff. Philogene wasn’t great from what I saw.
^^ Not a great game but I was very distracted with all this MTA stuff. Philogene wasn’t great from what I saw.
He wasn’t great at all.
I’ve also noticed that that booing the bending of the knee is growing in volume as witnessed by the start of the Forest v Chelsea game. Flying flags appears to have emboldened some.
I like Forest. But it's wrong seeing Douglas Luiz in their kit.I agree. Loved Dougie. He looks so much better and he also played so much better in a Villa shirt.
Wrong wrong wrong.
I like Forest. But it's wrong seeing Douglas Luiz in their kit.
Wrong wrong wrong.
Shame Ange looks like he’s on his way out.
What a ridiculous 2nd yellow.
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
What a ridiculous 2nd yellow.
And a ridiculous yellow.
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
watching Bournemouth high press Palace , seems to work so far
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
Wolves losing as usual, I wonder if another manager is about to be potted.
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
He'd either need an extremely large mirror or stand well back.
As it stands Bournemouth are top, which amuses me a lot.
Macron is rumoured to have pencilled in Ange as his next PM.
Macron is rumoured to have pencilled in Ange as his next PM.
What's French for 'mate'?
Rangers were 1-0 up, now 2-1 down at home to Dundee United.
Bournemouth down to 4th.
Bournemouth down to 4th.
Back to first again.
Rangers were 1-0 up, now 2-1 down at home to Dundee United.
That's a shame.
3rd goal for Hull
3rd goal for Hull
3rd goal for Hull
Lost the home game unbeaten streak. New manager soon whilst Gerrard is available?
Wolves losing as usual, I wonder if another manager is about to be potted.
Birmingham coming up and winning European games next season, but are closer to last place than top.
Birmingham coming up and winning European games next season, but are closer to last place than top.
Bottom half of the second division is their natural level, always has been
Douglas Luiz’s career probably hasn’t gone as well as he’d like post Villa. He could have signed a new deal with us. Ends up becoming a PSR victim and shipped off to Juventus. Doesn’t make it there and joins Forest. A good move seemingly until the fat owner crazily fires their most successful manager in ages and gets his Greek mate Ange. Then he gets potted as they sit in the bottom 3 of the PL table, and in an elimination spot in the Europa.
Honestly believe it was a bit of both tbh.
Fulham playing really well. Still expect Arsenal to win though
Mick Jagger at the match, is he getting satisfactionDoes he looked stoned?
I didn't know he was a Woolwich fan.
Mick Jagger at the match, is he getting satisfaction
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!any relation to Fred?
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!
No way is that a penalty.
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!
We don't need to talk about Kevin.
Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
I agree.
I'd go further, though, and say he's absolutely out of his depth in the PL.
Arsenal are looking good, but Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
I do think you have to have a very specific all round game to be effective as a striker (like Ollie) or be truly exceptional (like Haaland).Very few kids want to be centre forwards now, they all want to be wide forwards or number 10s or 8s. It is also the most difficult position to play on the pitch.
Shouldn't Scottish and Irish football be discussed in the non-league thread?
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.Stopping any commentary to allow us to sample the atmosphere and YNWA really is vomit inducing.
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.Stopping any commentary to allow us to sample the atmosphere and YNWA really is vomit inducing.
MacAllister is such a clown. Fake injuries cost real goals.Could have career in egg chasing
Get this nonsense out of the league.
Edit: a water polo cap.. hahaha this couldn’t be funnier. Like a dog with a cone of shame!
The best outcome here is surely a Man U win. Fuck Slot, the smug 'do they always do fireworks?' ******.
It’s about 14 degrees, why is that twat wearing gloves ?
Liverpool are all over the place atm
I don't like this. ManUre look competent. I prefer it when they're an absolute clown car of a team.
God, Carragher is such a twat.
Slot is like Klopp, all smiles and charm when things go well, an unpleasant snidey twat when they aren't.
4 defeats on the bounce, oh dear.
This is their Mark Robins moment.
That Chiesa Liverpool have is not very good is he?
getafe 2 sent off v RM
Slot moaning that a team beat them by playing in a way he didn't like.
Really poor quality game at Anfield, sometimes happens after international breaks. I thought Cunha and Mbuemo would like so many others sink without trace at Man United but they were both very good, Cunha particularly. That was with Mount and later Sesko offering less than zero up with them. Great result for them but still the same lack of legs in midfield.
Liverpool looked very flat, have done so all season. Still created plenty of goal chances but are very easy to play against these days. Salah and VVD struggled and their sub keeper looked a bomb scare. Balance of their team looks off.
Slot moaning that a team beat them by playing in a way he didn't like.
The MOTD pundits rightly called it out for the nonsense it was.
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Don't think we can underestimate the impact Jota's death has had on their squad. Obviously loss of a very good player but lots of them no doubt still grieving.
In possession, Bradley is a major downgrade on what TAA could give them in games like yesterday. Kerkez on other side seems lost again in comparison to what Robertson used give them too.
In context they’ve also scored some late goals to rescue results earlier in the season.
In context they’ve also scored some late goals to rescue results earlier in the season.
To be fair to Carragher, he has been calling this out since the start of the season. Late goals not sustainable to maintain results, ironically enough Gakpo missed an absolute sitter late on yesterday. Carragher was also strong on prioritising the Isak budget elsewhere in the squad, seems to be the right call on the evidence so far too.
None of the title favourites seem unstoppable thus far.
Lots of empty seats at the Spammers.Boycott must be working
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Don't think we can underestimate the impact Jota's death has had on their squad. Obviously loss of a very good player but lots of them no doubt still grieving.
In possession, Bradley is a major downgrade on what TAA could give them in games like yesterday. Kerkez on other side seems lost again in comparison to what Robertson used give them too.
Yes, obviously the horrible thing that happened with Jota does cast the whole thing in a more sympathetic light, you're right there. But there's definitely a mess going on with players signed for insane money after long wrangling sagas, who apparently can't all play in the same team and only one of whom - the least expensive - is actually contributing.
Var back to guessing again. Semi automated system not working so they use whichever freeze frame they choose to do. Go forward one frame and he's offside. Go back one frame and he's onside so they literally guess from a blurry image when the ball is actually played. It's nonsense and should be scrapped.
Good news for the West Ham players is there won't be many fans left to boo them at full-time.
West Ham getting massacred 1-0 so far. If you take pleasure in other supporters misery check out their KUMB forum. It's not a happy place.
Oh dear West Ham look relegation candidates. Surely Nuno can sort this load of crap out?
Oh dear West Ham look relegation candidates. Surely Nuno can sort this load of crap out?
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
Back in the day , even when they were shit they had the Boleyn Ground atmosphere to fall back on which normally gave them enough points to stay up. Now with increased revenue, lots of cash spent they have that soulless toxic bowl to look forward to.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Indeed, Moyes may not be a 'sexy' choice (many fans wouldn't want him in B6) but he's a decent PL manager.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Indeed, Moyes may not be a 'sexy' choice (many fans wouldn't want him in B6) but he's a decent PL manager.
If the limit of your ambition is a challenge for top 6 and the odd decent Cup run.
West Ham have finished in the top 6 three times in the last 50 years, they'd love that to be their ambition every season.
West Ham have finished in the top 6 three times in the last 50 years, they'd love that to be their ambition every season.
They have a Sporting Director. It is Mark Noble.....
They have a Sporting Director. It is Mark Noble.....
he did say a strong sporting director tohugh.
I don't know why Sullivan still bothers. He is about 108, still wears a stupid Russian hat and has to sit behind protective perspex to watch their games.
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
I don't know why Sullivan still bothers. He is about 108, still wears a stupid Russian hat and has to sit behind protective perspex to watch their games.
According to Google's AI Overview David Sullivan is 6 ft 0 in (184 cm). Who'd have thought it?
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
£550m he's spent in his seven transfer windows and every bit of their team looks like it needs to be scrapped and started over.
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
£550m he's spent in his seven transfer windows and every bit of their team looks like it needs to be scrapped and started over.
Assuming transfermkt is correct I'm getting about £380m (Jan 2023 until now). It doesn't stop the second bit being correct though.
Lucas Paqueta is one of what we would suggest is just two unquestionably good signings in a £550m transfer spend across Noble’s seven transfer windows with his hand on the tiller. He played a few neat passes, but doesn’t have anything like the support he needs to be the creative threat he evidently can be. The other plus point for Noble is currently pulling up trees for Tottenham.
For me, it states no height for the businessman but 6ft for the footballer. (plus a list of other David Sullivans).
Seems they either believe Noble was sanctioning transfers before he got the job (it was announced in Sept2022 and he formally took up position in Jan 2023) or they forgot Paqueta was signed in Aug 2022. His first official signing was Ings for 12mil.
Now 5-1 to PSG, so I’ve bailed on that one.5-5 now.
Now 5-1 to PSG, so I’ve bailed on that one.5-5 now.
Worst ref ever! Absolutely fuming! 😡
Watched one-time Arsenal rising star Jay Emmanuel-Thomas this evening.
In June he was given a four-year prison sentence for drug trafficking. In July this year he was released from prison*. In October I watched him come on as a pretty ineffectual sub after an hour for AFC Totton, as they enjoyed a meek 2-0 loss to Bath City, the first time I'd watched them win in about two years (about a dozen matches).
Life comes at you fast.
*justice system is working well, it seems.
Salah dropped tonight, fully justified, he's been useless.Completely disagree as I think he has been very good. It's a disgrace that he has been dropped.
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
I did and Chris Jameson, a poster on here, put me in my place saying that he was going to be a top goal scorer. However I still think he is a FTB and has never scored an important goal against top class opposition either for his clubs or England.Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?Yep, a couple on here. As well as others on other media.
Certainly a good week for the English coefficient so far.
Does anyone remember when Ajax were not a pub team?
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
Guilty. I definitely remember thinking he’s ’not quick, no skill, looks a bit of a lump’ when he was coming through. He’d also been mostly average on loan at places like Orient and Norwich.
I told a bunch of people that I'd play Gerrard at Right Back for England because it would have been the best way to play him and Lampard in the same team.
Not sure if that counts but a few of my mates still give me shit about it.
I told a bunch of people that I'd play Gerrard at Right Back for England because it would have been the best way to play him and Lampard in the same team.I think it was Germany away when he played there and I came to the same conclusion.
Not sure if that counts but a few of my mates still give me shit about it.
I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Possibly the best ever on this site. Hope it doesn’t lead to a flood.I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Saw that game. Noah's 2-2-2-2-2 formation left them exposed on the flanks.
I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Saw that game. Noah's 2-2-2-2-2 formation left them exposed on the flanks.
Douglas Luiz has put on a few pounds, I think.
Forest leading. As if the night couldn’t get any worse.
Good old jan Bednarek gives away a penalty.
W ;)hen I was single I played a lot more.Douglas Luiz has put on a few pounds, I think.He's single now and not playing as regularly.
Have Palace managed an ever shitter result than us?On balance, yes
Judging by the Rangers highlights it was all Brann.Rangers lacked necessary fibre.
2-0 nowWham are shite and against an intense pressing side they fold very easily.
Preston 3-2
Only way Bowen leaves WH is if they go down
He’ll be 29 next season and could be up for grabs, now there’s a player that would do well for us
Preston 3-2
Oh yes, they can bloody well do it now.
West Ham have spent a fortune to be this shit. Which is nice.
West Ham have spent a fortune to be this shit. Which is nice.
A quick browse of KUMB suggests that they already want Nuno out.
Starting to look like we’ll be taking 6 points off Cov next season.
The Albion game is fcuking dire.
Tom Ritchie puts Bristol City ahead.
Tom Ritchie puts Bristol City ahead.
It says Armstrong on Sky, whoever the fuck that is.
Our 0-0 at Sunderland is not looking like a bad result at the moment!
Sunderland win it at the death at Chelsea. Up to 2nd is incredible.
Sunderland will avoid relegation. That’s about it.
Casemiro shoots wide but deflection takes it in but it’s not an own goal? So my question is what is an own goal these days, clearly deflections causing the goal aren’t.
I see KDB pulled his hamstring after scoring a pen for Napoli.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Yeah, fucking ManUre ruining Other Football. Their game used to be the one I'd always watch if Villa weren't playing because of the comedy value, but now they are looking worryingly competent.
I see KDB pulled his hamstring after scoring a pen for Napoli.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Yeah, fucking ManUre ruining Other Football. Their game used to be the one I'd always watch if Villa weren't playing because of the comedy value, but now they are looking worryingly competent.
Time added on 3 minutes. Liverpool score at 5 minutes. I know it’s a min of 3 minutes, but why the ref played so long is controversial. Crowd are fuming.
The whole “it’s a minimum of” is nonsense. Otherwise they’d just put 1 up each time. The board is meant to indicate and estimate of time to add on so if he wanted to play 5 he should have stuck that on the board.
Penalty Brentford. Foul was initially given as a free kick, but VAR advised the ref foul was on the line. Ref then announced it to the crowd. Brentford did what we don’t and scored. 3-1
Penalty Brentford. Foul was initially given as a free kick, but VAR advised the ref foul was on the line. Ref then announced it to the crowd. Brentford did what we don’t and scored. 3-1
Blimey, that was tight
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Justice. Poor old p-lop.
Clear foul in the build up to Mbweno’s first goal.We’ve got our Man Utd back.
Could be curtains for Slot if Pl-op lose their next game. Who have they got?
Oh shit!
Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
.Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
.Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
The rule that fouls in the “penalty area” shouldn’t be penalties? They could do away with the white painted line that marks that area too. Could save some money.
Liverpool have made the mistake of forgetting Premier League teams all have good players and you have to earn the right to win. You can’t just ignore the midfield battle. That’s what’s killing them, they have no base to layer all their attack on.Not all with West Ham, Burnley and Wolves being the exceptions.
I couldn’t believe the hype about the Salah deal . He was only going to go one way after that last season at that age . I am not saying he isn’t a good player but i would have looked elsewhere
Another Keith Andrews masterclass.
Finished Gateshead 2-2 Truro, notable for being the longest away trip in English league football history.
Wolves losing to Burnley.
I know it’s not allowed to have too many Midlands sides in the top flight as room needs to be made for NW and London sides, so alas we will need to lose the Dogheads to accommodate Coventry. No room for the knuckledraggers or bitters.
I know it’s not allowed to have too many Midlands sides in the top flight as room needs to be made for NW and London sides, so alas we will need to lose the Dogheads to accommodate Coventry. No room for the knuckledraggers or bitters.
They might allow one of them if Forest go though.
"Sacked in the morning", "we want Fosun out", and trying to fight their own players.I think Ange could do a job there.
#levels
Fcuk me Everton fans don’t half moan.
Fcuk me Everton fans don’t half moan.The most consistently outraged fans in football.
Everton really have been shite.
Everton really have been shite.
Their entire tactical plan is ‘gerrit out to jack.’
This might get ruled out for a foul on the keeper.
Edit: Right decision. Goal disallowed.
Apart from Cash's I think my favourite goal of the weekend was Burnleys first against Wolves. Beautiful volley places into the net.
What was that TV programme back in the day? Used to have Danny Kenny and Lisa Rodgers on it.
What was that TV programme back in the day? Used to have Danny Kenny and Lisa Rodgers on it.
I like Kelly and Paul Hawksbee but they both got wrapped up in the "call the police/write to your MP/questions in the house" reaction to Cash's tackle on some no mark or other of theirs.
They just can't get over it.
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Looks like they may well bludgeon themselves to a title with corners and ugly play.
Didn't they have a similar start last season of winning by loads of set piece goals. What they seem to have done is finally lock down the easy goals they concede which I assume is down to having a decent defensive midfielder instead of just Rice.Yes.
All Cardiff so far, could be 2 or 3 uo.
Well done DC, deserved the win. Swansea at home in the next round?
Well done DC, deserved the win. Swansea at home in the next round?
would want them in the final :)
but seriously looking at the teams still involved hoping for a home tie next round
shame villa isn't still involved.
Thanks for the well done messages
Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
I turned on after 20 minutes. Liverpool look like what they are. Basically a scratch side of mostly 2nd stringers and kids against something resembling a proper team.Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
Absolutely. I've only watched the last 10 minutes of the first half but Palace have been the better side by quite a long way. Sarr has been excellent.
Spurs keeper poorIt’s a long list post Pat Jennings.
Dingles now 2–3.
Wolves 0 Chelsea 3. Lots of custard looking seats at the custard place.
Palace 3 up.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
Nice beaverA little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
*applause*
Some movies just stick in the mind for little things like that for decades and still remain as funny as the first time you hear them.
"In hospital? What is it?"
"It's a big building with patients in it, but that's not important right now"
Nice beaverA little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
*applause*
Some movies just stick in the mind for little things like that for decades and still remain as funny as the first time you hear them.
"In hospital? What is it?"
"It's a big building with patients in it, but that's not important right now"
Who are you and how did you get in?
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
It will be ridiculous if they punish Palace for qualifying for Europe by making them play four games in eight days. They should really have considered this possibility at the start of the season and reduced the semi-finals to one leg, or started the Premier League a week earlier and left a free midweek.
On the other hand, after the amount of misery they have inflicted on us in recent years, sod Crystal Palace.
Arsenal with another set piece goal - shocker
Doug substituted after 14 minutes for Forest, presume an injury. It doesn’t seem to be going for him since he left us.
Norwich looking a decent shout to be a 3rd division side next season.
Forest equalise (Gibbs-White).2-1 up now
SHA 3-0 up v Pompey. World domination back on.
Fulham 2-0 up against Wolves.
Hearts 3-0 up, which is nice.Eurgh
Hearts 3-0 up, which is nice.Eurgh
3-0 Fulham. What a disaster.Has he gone yet?
There could be a 8 point gap minimum between Wolves and safety. And a 4 point gap between bottom 3 and 17th.
There could be a 8 point gap minimum between Wolves and safety. And a 4 point gap between bottom 3 and 17th.
They used to be so fond of gaps, too.
Nice to see the Chelsea captain trying to get the Spurs play sent off . They really are horrible fucking club . Saying that they have been far better than Spurzz
Wolves next six games.Character building
Chelsea a
Palace h
Villa a
Forest h
Man United h
Arsenal a
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playingSpurs are terrible.
Thomas Frank has a lot of work to doI’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playingSpurs are terrible.
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
Until your post I had genuinely never heard of him and even now suspect you have made him up.
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
Until your post I had genuinely never heard of him and even now suspect you have made him up.
Jacob Ramsey looks lost at Newcastle. Few touches in the center circle, hardly any running with the ball. No goals/assists all season.
Jacob Ramsey looks lost at Newcastle. Few touches in the center circle, hardly any running with the ball. No goals/assists all season.
3-0 Fulham. What a disaster.Has he gone yet?
Haaland looking the real deal again.
Haaland looking the real deal again.
Antony hit a decent effort for Betis earlier. Seems Sancho is one of the few ex-Manure who isn't much better away from Old Trafford and Amorim.
1 nil Everton superb goal Ndiaye
Fantastic ball in by Grealish and Barry somehow puts it over the bar from a few yards out. That could be one they regret.
Looking at Sunderland's league results so far, our result wasn't that bad, before tonights match, we are the only team to have taken anything from them at their place.
In fairness, he's barely had a run yet. Still think we'll regret letting him go.I think we're missing him at the moment: Ramsey left and McGinn Right-side last Saturday and we'd have been much better equipped.
1 nil Everton superb goal Ndiaye
Great player.
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
I have an irrational hate of Lewis-Skelly
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
Lucky her, it's bound to be better than North London Forever.
Very harsh pen going to be given to Liverpool at the moment.Agreed. It was not a handball, so the position on the pitch is irrelevant.
Edit: Ref decided it wasn't handball which I believe is right but would have been a pen if he had decided it wasn't. The hand/arm was in a natural position.
No, not if she has done her homework.Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
I bet she isn’t getting lumps kicked out of her.
Very harsh pen going to be given to Liverpool at the moment.Shearer on commentary is adamant the Real players arm is in an unnatural position therefore should of been a penalty. I couldn't disagree more. His arm was in pretty much the only place it could be and he was looking away when the ball struck his arm.
Edit: Ref decided it wasn't handball which I believe is right but would have been a pen if he had decided it wasn't. The hand/arm was in a natural position.
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!Remember this day, 4 November 2025.
Fuck off!
Luis Diaz two goals and a red card all in the first half.
Luis Diaz two goals and a red card all in the first half.
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!Remember this day, 4 November 2025.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
Come on now, if you’re over 35 you know the connotations that word has especially with their club because of what happened in 1989.
There’s plenty of ways of calling them whinging tw*ts without using that phrase.
Charlton Athletic 1 0 West Bromwich Albion
S. Carey (90'+5)
That phrase was first used by Everton fans after Heysel in 85' where ticketless Liverpool fans forced the gates causing panic among the Juventus fans and 39 people lost their lives. Liverpool blamed poor policing and a dilapidated stadium. They had a point but were definitely not blameless. I meant no relation to the Hillsborough disaster in 89' because that was not the fault of Liverpool fans. That was down to diabolical policing on the day and who can ever forget the cover up by the police and Thatchers government. For that reason I'll admit I chose the wrong phrase and won't be using it again."A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
Come on now, if you’re over 35 you know the connotations that word has especially with their club because of what happened in 1989.
There’s plenty of ways of calling them whinging tw*ts without using that phrase.
Stoke currently 2nd in Div 2.
But not goal of the season against these amateurs from Denmark.
PSG v Bayern....best 2 teams in the competition on tonight's showing.don’t forget Real Small Heath if they were in it. They are all getting excited again..
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
I love how the vibe with the Liverpool fans booing of ‘Trent’ is ‘understandable’ in a way it isn’t for any other fucking home grown player getting booed.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
Yes but when we booed our players, we were told the fans were being really unfair to a player who has been a servent to the club. When TTA is booed it is understandable as he broke the fans hearts and the excellent fans can't forgive that.
CarrierBag have just equalised against Chelsea.
CarrierBag have just equalised against Chelsea.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
Yes but when we booed our players, we were told the fans were being really unfair to a player who has been a servent to the club. When TTA is booed it is understandable as he broke the fans hearts and the excellent fans can't forgive that.
TV commentators and pundits do spread the narrative. What did I hear last night… “this fixture is too soon”, “ It’s still raw”
Anthony Taylor really is shitYes but Attwell is toast now for over ruling him at world stage.
Midtjylland battering Celtic and currently top the Europa League.
Airdrieonians v Partick will be live on Beeb.
Just constants oohs and aahs
Fcuking hell I hate football at times. This lot are coming back aren’t they.
Richarlison is pants.
Fcuking hell I hate football at times. This lot are coming back aren’t they.
You spoke to soon!!!
2-2 hahahahaHahahaha Spurs. Wankers
2-2 hahahaha
Jesus,Spuds can't defend
Double lol, pair of clowns.
Can Mccoist be any further up Man Uniteds collective arse.And his funny jokes,🙄
Can Mccoist be any further up Man Uniteds collective arse.And his funny jokes,🙄
Edwards leaves on a high?
Edwards leaves on a high?Really can’t see why he’d leave to go the Dogheads…..they could very possibly swap places division wise come the end of the season….they’re on completely different trajectories.
If Sunderland win they'll go 2nd. Like Spurs when they played usSpurs could have gone second again, today, if they’d won.
Neto hammering the third nail into Wolve coffin tonight. Wolves has had one chance all evening, not sure what Edwards thinks he will do.
It’s some story this for Sunderland. From relegation to division 3 just a few years ago to this kind of performance in the top flight.They have completely refreshed the squad. They looked very low on quality at the end of last season and were lucky in the play offs I thought. Spend big to survive and it’s going incredibly well. Absolutely nobody predicted this.
Is that Bayern's first dropped points of the season?
Anyone know the Brentford score?
1-1 at Brentford
Arsenal still have enough time to Arsenal it up.
Up to sixth as it stands.
Brilliant Haaland scores.
Obviously, Man City are evil, but it is quite funny that Liverpool spent all that money to go so decisively backwards.Must be on track for the worst title defence since Blackburn.
Obviously, Man City are evil, but it is quite funny that Liverpool spent all that money to go so decisively backwards.
Chelsea were worse, finished 10th, Blackburn were 7th. Leicester worst of all in PL era, 12th. Season before the PL Leeds managed 17th.
Chelsea were worse, finished 10th, Blackburn were 7th. Leicester worst of all in PL era, 12th. Season before the PL Leeds managed 17th.I thought Blackburn did far worse than that for some reason. Completely forgot about Leicester, too.
Maybe their abject European showing played a part in your thinking?Probably. Who could forget that punch up.
We got it tactically wrong last week vs Liverpool. The Emi disaster made things a lot worse. They were there for the taking.
£400 million well spent.
£400 million well spent.
They need Harvey Elliot back as a matter of urgency.
Brilliant decision, fuck off Liverpool.Yup. Whilst Robertson was not in Donnarumma's sight line he interfered with play by ducking out of the way whilst offside.
We finished 11th in 81-82?
Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Can't remember exact match but a freekick came in from far left of box. The attacker standing right in front of the keeper in an offside position lept the ball but did try to kick it which delayed our keeper from diving for it and the freekick went straight in. Ref and lino decided he wasn't interfering.
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Can't remember exact match but a freekick came in from far left of box. The attacker standing right in front of the keeper in an offside position lept the ball but did try to kick it which delayed our keeper from diving for it and the freekick went straight in. Ref and lino decided he wasn't interfering.
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?
Said it before, Slot is like Klopp. All smiles and charm when it's going well. Snidey unpleasant whiney twat when it isn't.
Liverpool have made contact with Professional Game Match Officials Limited to raise their concerns over the decision to disallow Virgil van Dijk's goal in Sunday's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City.
As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
Said it before, Slot is like Klopp. All smiles and charm when it's going well. Snidey unpleasant whiney twat when it isn't.
he was a twat when they were doing well ' do they usually have fireworks or is it just for us ' Although there might be some BBC editing there
I thought it was Brian Clough?As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
I think that was Bill Shankly.
Slot’s a funny one. A leading manager from a minor league, I think he got extremely lucky last year - obviously there was the fact that Klopp had left him a top 5 team, but also they had a bit of a nightmare window last summer that basically left him with no new (his choice) players, which in turn meant he couldn’t really tinker. That turned out to his advantage, coupled with the very indifferent performances of City and Arsenal.
He has the Dutch way of plain speaking which, when the pressure is on, also sounds rather thin skinned. He is under the kind of pressure now that one might have expected last winter (got to give it time to bed in, etc.), except that while back then that might have sounded reasonable (just arrived), it is now less so, especially given he spunked up £400m in between times.
Will be interesting to see how that plays out over the next 12-18 months. In my view, he’s a good continental coach but no more than that. Will he get found out?
Bill NicholsonI thought it was Brian Clough?As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
I think that was Bill Shankly.
Rogers and Konsa both start, as expected. Just come back in one piece.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
It would be and would mean they'd finish 2nd if they beat Hungary. Portugal will no doubt break our hearts before that.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
It would be and would mean they'd finish 2nd if they beat Hungary. Portugal will no doubt break our hearts before that.
Winning tonight and then losing to Hungary feels a bit more like recent Ireland behaviour to me.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
That’s the way to do it!
Ronaldo responds by a crying motion in the direction of O'Shea.
Cristiano Ronaldo has been sent off.
He sarcastically applauds the fans
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Didn't think it was at first but the replay shows he did it with some venom. The Cliff Richards lookalike ******
Shouldn't Starmer be ensuring Serbs could attend a match on English soil without any issues?
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Which is fine, but that's a Rogers problem not a Kane problem.
The team will be picked (correctly in my opinion) on the attackers who can work the best with Kane.
So if Rogers wants to play, he needs to adapt his game rather than expecting Kane to adapt his.
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Which is fine, but that's a Rogers problem not a Kane problem.
The team will be picked (correctly in my opinion) on the attackers who can work the best with Kane.
So if Rogers wants to play, he needs to adapt his game rather than expecting Kane to adapt his.
Yeah, sure, was just pointing out that our best play was when Kane wasn't standing in at 10.
I'm not slagging Kane off, just pointing out that how he plays makes it difficult for the players in behind him at times.
It's a sad day when Serbian hooligans.... sorry I mean Catholics are not safe in streets of London.Shouldn't Starmer be ensuring Serbs could attend a match on English soil without any issues?Anti-Serbianism.
But it doesn't have to be difficult - the right player would know to move out of the place they think they should be and into a more useful one.
Be nice if we could swap Rogers for Eze.I see what you have done there.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Not really. It's pretty much the same so far. Which is fine.
Hopefully it stops being the same some time around mid-July
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
You mustn't have watched Ireland tonight.
#Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
Best result in a very long time.
Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
Best result in a very long time.
Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
You’d have a point if England had played Germany under Tuchel but as he’s only had 8 games it was unlikely he was going to. The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
Italy need an 88th minute goal to (probably) squeeze past bottom-of-the-group, -22 goal difference Moldova.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
You’d have a point if England had played Germany under Tuchel but as he’s only had 8 games it was unlikely he was going to. The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
My point was relating to "anything Southgate served up" as per your post that I quoted.
If you only really wanted to discuss qualifiers then I'd say a 3-1 win against Italy, 7-0 against North Macedonia, 2-1 against Italy away, 5-0 against Albania, 4-0 in Hungary, 7-0 against Montenegro, 6-0 win in Bulgaria, 4-0 against Bulgaria again, 5-1 in Montenegro, 5-0 against Czechia and a 3-0 win against Scotland were all pretty solid efforts.
Fair play, Tuchel has started well, but I'm not sure why people can't enjoy that without feeling the urge to denigrate the achievements of, comfortably, their greatest manager in the last half-century.
I'm not convinced. His record against countries in the top 10 is appalling. I think we got as far as we have done in recent competitions despite him rather than because of him. I don't know if he's taking a sabbatical from football voluntarily or not but there's hardly a queue of top clubs trying to sign him up. Surely the second best manager in England's history should be taking his pick from the top jobs. Time will be the judge I guess.Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Not sure that tracks with Southgate being England's second best manager in history.
Why are they fellating Foden over a three yard pass when Eze has just bent it in the top corner from 20 yards first time?
NARRATIVE.
I'm not convinced. His record against countries in the top 10 is appalling. I think we got as far as we have done in recent competitions despite him rather than because of him. I don't know if he's taking a sabbatical from football voluntarily or not but there's hardly a queue of top clubs trying to sign him up. Surely the second best manager in England's history should be taking his pick from the top jobs. Time will be the judge I guess.Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Not sure that tracks with Southgate being England's second best manager in history.
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
I agree with this.Why are they fellating Foden over a three yard pass when Eze has just bent it in the top corner from 20 yards first time?
NARRATIVE.
It's a simple pass, if anything it's bobbling and Eze catches it sweetly on the bounce. They even brought up Foden when interviewing Eze.
He has his moments ...none in an England shirt but hes the most overrated player in the premier league with Kamara being the most underrated.
The Ireland match was edge of the seat stuff but fabulously entertaining.
They will go some to match that endeavour on Sunday but while you're still in it, you're still in it.
I've also read two seperate pieces in the Guardian by David Hynter and Jacob Steinberg in the last two days wher they state that John Stones is a nailed on starter and Guehi and Konsa are fighting for the spot next to him.Very odd.
Have I missed something here, when was this decided?