Exciting!
Exciting!
Maybe, but should we post about Liechtenstein's goals today in this or the old thread? I might have to post in both, just to be on the safe side.
We go again.
What’s the rule on the disallowed goal, how far back can you go?It depends on if it's Villa who have scored it and whether it at Old Trafford.
Are we blaming Leeg for whatever the feck was going on in the Belgium v Cymru game ?
What’s the rule on the disallowed goal, how far back can you go?
That looks more in play than the one in the World Cup when Japan scored against Germany. That goal was allowed.
Did they show the VAR still on which they based the decision?
Ta, I'll be watching the cricket instead.
He’s had a mare kicking this off so early. This thread will be responsible for our results at Old Trafford and Selhurst next season.
We’ve got another clown in charge here. If he wins the World Cup I will swallow the hat I will have to buy.Save your money.
Senegal ahead.Deservedly. Come on Morgan: get a goal!
Toneys face is a pictureIf you’re behind Morgan Rogers for number 9 position…sulking is allowed
Makes me pine for Gareth.
That is a terrible decision.
That is a terrible decision.
I assume we're talking about starting this thread?
Harvey Elliott doesn't have a right foot.
And right on cue he bangs one in. With his left foot obviously.Harvey Elliott doesn't have a right foot.
Got at least one foot!
Christ, that’s embarassing.
Christ, that’s embarassing.
It would be shit if everyone thought like that about boycotts, though. I refuse to bet on or watch horse racing, I know it makes shit all difference but I still won't do it.
It would be shit if everyone thought like that about boycotts, though. I refuse to bet on or watch horse racing, I know it makes shit all difference but I still won't do it.
Maybe you're right, I have boycotted Super League since they banned relegation. I'll try to swerve this competition then, but may be tempted to peek if any of the English teams look like delivering an amusing defeat.
Going to be a long game for Auckland. 4-0 20 minutes gone
Going to be a long game for Auckland. 4-0 20 minutes goneTo be fair to West Auckland they did qualify as World champions 1909 and 1911 - the ones who are still alive are in their 130s!
This is just a preseason friendly in the US with 100 million at the end of it. Boring watch and listen to on 5.
Chances are it won’t be a huge flop. And even less chance it will be canceled. In fact it’s moving to 48 teams
Yep they will keep throwing money at it. And when you see PIF being advertised and promoted then you know where much of the motivation and financing will come from and be influenced by. This event will inevitably end up in Qatar or Saudi at some point.
And I see Saudi are competing the Concacaf. The North American Euros.Yep they will keep throwing money at it. And when you see PIF being advertised and promoted then you know where much of the motivation and financing will come from and be influenced by. This event will inevitably end up in Qatar or Saudi at some point.
Presumably it'll be in Saudi Arabia in 2033 as a dress rehearsal for the 2034 World Cup.
It's too hot. I can imagine them messing about with one season to accommodate a winter World Cup, as they did when it was in Qatar, but not two.
It isn't an invitational, and there is merit to who qualifies (even allowing for the deliberately manipulated criteria to ensure Messi would be in it).
Didn't quite know ow where to post this.
Drogheda expelled from Europe after losing Cas appeal - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cwyqjl9zpw8o
UEFA anti c&b stitch up.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
No, on the balance of probability, I'd say a nefarious, worldwide anti-Witton conspiracy is more plausible.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Officially he is still Royal Antwerp's player "on loan from Aston Villa" so maybe they didn't want to put that mouthful in a sentence.
Ethan Wheatley was on-loan at Walsall last year, but they just said he's from Man Utd.
England U21 looking poor. Iling Jr not impressive, neither is Harvey ElliotCresswell looked decent; as did Norton-Cuffy.
When it comes to the Moldovan Liga, I assume most Villa fans have FC Balti as their preferred team.
2-0
Lucky as fook to get that pen wiped off…looked as nailed on a handball as you’ll see
2-0
Lucky as fook to get that pen wiped off…looked as nailed on a handball as you’ll see
C4 commentators were saying he moved his body not his arm, so the ref was fooled into thinking he'd moved the arm?! Sounded like nonsense to me.
Switzerland women’s national team (ranked 23rd in the world) lost 7-1 in a friendly match against Luzern’s U15 boys team. https://www.goal.com/en/lists/alisha-lehmann-switzerland-euro-2025-hosts-thrashed-under-15-team/blt569915d6561b9a2a
1-1 now.
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Only caught the last 15 minutes of the U21’s, what was the Nose striker like?He runs around a lot but not much more
Further points deduction incoming for Everton.
https://x.com/Andrew_Heaton/status/1938026705563885910
Poor defending 2-1Stansfield showing he's a third division striker defending by allowing that cross to come in.
Who is Elliot sticking two fingers up to?
Subs have had a big impact, loads more energy to us. Iling-Junior has worked his tits off pressing.
Dorking's White given six-game ban for sexist comment - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy9x0y8r137o
Ha ha, Citeh out
Difficult not to laugh at Man City being beaten by that Saudi team.
And hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
The way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
he cant there is no shirt
Very goodThe way things are going I think he end up at Birmingham City before the new season startsAnd hooked off, replaced by a pensioner.
Saint Jude looking pissed off
he cant there is no shirt
Preston v Liverpool... live on ITV !!
Why ???
Too much football about these days. David Mitchell had it right.
Blue Blood against Bold Brilliance is how McNamara described the encounter….WTF?
Nuno Mendes has been destroyed for all 3 goals
we are not the only team to score 3 against them
Sorry but this England performance is shit.
I just said, in all seriousness that the Swedes are better in every department.
This reminds me of our semi final v Palace where they knew exactly what we we were going to do.
I can’t see England getting back into this and expect Sweden to score again
Has to be a pen surely?
Has to be a pen surely?
She headed the ball against her own arm that was raised above her shoulder. A pen every week in the Premier League.
Agyemang is like an England Ladies Jhon Duran in terms of impact!Haha….she did get booked two minutes after coming on so yes like Jhon.
The referee is very poor. Inept in fact, the goal kick she just gave England when it was very clearly a corner and then the corner she gave England when it was so clearly a goal kick were very funny indeed.
The referee is very poor. Inept in fact, the goal kick she just gave England when it was very clearly a corner and then the corner she gave England when it was so clearly a goal kick were very funny indeed.
Mad how it seemed like she gave Sweden loads of decisions through the game but then suddenly in the last 10 mins that happened.
Oh & Lucy Bronze is totally the female John Terry!
Swede keeper moving before kicks.That is what I said when it was happening. No wonder she got down to save them. What was the line person on the goal line watching?
Swede keeper moving before kicks.That is what I said when it was happening. No wonder she got down to save them. What was the line person on the goal line watching?
Rangers beat Panathinaikos 2-0 in the first leg of their UCL - 2nd Qualifying Round tie.
Rangers beat Panathinaikos 2-0 in the first leg of their UCL - 2nd Qualifying Round tie.
At least if Rangers go through, they won't drop into the Europa League (I think).
All teams eliminated from the League Path enter the Europa League:
The 3 losers of the second qualifying round enter the Main Path third qualifying round.
The 4 losers of the third qualifying round enter the league phase.
The 2 losers of the play-off round enter the league phase.
So why you watching it then?i am not
The quality of football is shit.
I've got to say I'm all for comical penalty shoot outs, modern players stuttering or lasering the ball into the top corner is boring as fuck, for me the joy in the penalty shootout is the pressure turning otherwise capable athletes to jelly.
They must have a department that just looks 9-5 every day at ways to ruin the game.
I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.
Just heard that they are trying to bring in arule where you cant score a rebound from a penalty save , how bloody stupid.So Ray Graydon's goal against Kevin Keelan wouldn't have counted. One of my seminal memories.
Just heard that they are trying to bring in arule where you cant score a rebound from a penalty save , how bloody stupid.So Ray Graydon's goal against Kevin Keelan wouldn't have counted. One of my seminal memories.
Why does it need changing?
And as I mentioned, if the problem is the taker having advantage on a follow-up, then have the rule be that someone other then the goal keeper has to touch the ball before the taker can have a second touch. The planned changes means that no matter what happens, the whole game is stopped and the results can only be a goal or a goal kick. There is no follow-up corner allowed if keeper saves it around the post, or fast break by the opposition if saved and moved on quickly.
But maybe the defensive team shouldn't be giving away penalties in the first place then they don't have to worry about the attacking team having an advantage.
Why does it need changing?
Why does it need changing?
Why does it need changing?
It stops all the nonsense of players encroaching and squabbling on the edge of the box prior to it being taken which in turn allows the officials to concentrate on the penalty itself and hopefully avoid the ten minute wait between the offence happening and the kick being taken.
I don't mind it. But my priority would be banning stuttered run-ups.
No, because a free kick is clearly not the same as a penalty. Also the player taking the free kick doesn't have the advantage of being nearest the ball for a likely rebound.
No, because a free kick is clearly not the same as a penalty. Also the player taking the free kick doesn't have the advantage of being nearest the ball for a likely rebound.
That's kind of how the penalty concept is meant to work, every advantage should be given the team denied the obvious goalscoring opportunity.
Why does it need changing?It doesn't , but we have the department of ruin looking at all angles .
I like it, I've decided. Attacker still gets a chance to score, but only one chance. Doesn't sound that bad to me.Nah. One of the most stupid ideas yet .
I don't care if they change it or not but I can see the benefits. It needs to come with some changes to the run up though because the stuttering bullshit is clearly the biggest problem with penalties.
I don't care if they change it or not but I can see the benefits. It needs to come with some changes to the run up though because the stuttering bullshit is clearly the biggest problem with penalties.
I have said this on here at least 100 times, but I fully lay the blame for this at the feet of John Aldridge, the inventor of the stuttering penalty kick.
You are right, Paul, stop this bullshit right now, it's absolutely out of control.
I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.I thought goalkeepers could move along the goal line just not forward, unless thats changed now.
You can do that in Subbuteo so it must be right. Absolutely best way to save a pen in that game, hold the goal down and waggle your keeper left and right like crazy, always puts the other player off scoring.I can't say that this worries me. In fact, I reckon it's good. Penalty takers have too many advantages already, allowed to hop, skip, jump and pirouette on the way to the spot while keepers can't move an inch. So taking away the second bite of the cherry seems reasonable.I thought goalkeepers could move along the goal line just not forward, unless thats changed now.
It's so favour of the taker these days that i'm waiting for them to bring in a rule where the keeper has to be sat down when it's taken.
*Grits teeth*
Impressive result by "Rangers".
*Grits teeth*
Impressive result by "Rangers".
They now play Viktoria Plzeň in the third qualifying round, then either Benfica or Nice if they get through that.
Also have to say that their new away strip is quite smart, if red, white and blue kits are your thing.
Over in Hong Kong, Spurs beat Arsenal 1-0 in the first North London derby played outside the UK. I wonder when and where the first Second City derby outside the UK will take place.
Over in Hong Kong, Spurs beat Arsenal 1-0 in the first North London derby played outside the UK. I wonder when and where the first Second City derby outside the UK will take place.
ITV have a live game a month
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All Sundays so we won't be able to watch them 😣
Now they’ve equalised. Booooooo
Motherwell scored a late equaliser to draw their first game of the season against Rangers.
I watched the first half hour of Luton v Wimbledon before I could stand it no longer, it was truly awful.
Motherwell scored a late equaliser to draw their first game of the season against Rangers.
Breda fans enjoying themselves before their friendly at Norwich
https://x.com/zak_nelson22/status/1951642835196784919
3-0, tie over.
Great result for Shelbourne in the Europa League. Won 2-1 away at Rijeka.
Kane does an Ollie against Spurs. https://x.com/TroIISports/status/1953510455009530295
That Stansfield really does look like he belongs at that place.
That Stansfield really does look like he belongs at that place.Small Heaths Foden . Probably got 5 kids already .
He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
Ipswich are shit.
He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
I'd rather watch a documentary about squeezing blackheads.He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
I'd rather watch a documentary about squeezing blackheads.He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
Err yeah ok ;)He actually comes across ok on the Documentary. Anyway Ashley to come on and score the winner tonight 😃Hang on , you actually watched it
errrr no someone told me 👀😃
where is Philogene ?
Stansfield is a real talent and a joy to watch, hurts to say but it’s just the facts.
Lewis Ward, Villa fan
Go on Ash boiOnce a Villa man... :D
Laughing my cock off at Blues but never a pen. Which makes it even funnier obviously 🤣
Blues classy as ever in these final moments!
well those 2 Aren’t coming up , you heard it here first
Yeah I know but I just think its bullshitLaughing my cock off at Blues but never a pen. Which makes it even funnier obviously 🤣
Under the current rules it is, arm was in an unnatural position, there were plenty of similar ones given last season.
FULL-TIME
Birmingham 1-1 Ipswich
Birmingham thought they were back with a bang before George Hirst's 95th minute penalty.
Jay Stansfield's second-half goal looked like it would be enough to win it for Blues who make it 26 league games at home unbeaten and dominated much of the match.
well those 2 Aren’t coming up , you heard it here first
Agreed, neither looked Prem tonight
Consensus seems to be the penalty was correct given the current handball laws
Everything about that club is truly horrible.
The conduct of the SHA supporters was appalling but completely predictable. Hands down, the scummiest bunch of fans in the country.
Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Bugger, I knew I'd got something wrong. One of my mates is a Tractor Boy - bollocking on the way- deservedly.Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Suffolk.
Boohoo.
How dare a bunch of Sussex clodhoppers take a point at the temple of all that is holy in the world of overhyped footy.
A point against the winningest team in the history of Division 3 with the biggest and bestest plans for world domination in a 3-year time frame is not to be sneezed at.
Tom Brady has called for the Commissioner of Soccer in England to have the penalty cancelled and the win awarded to Blues.
Justice for the Small Heathens
Suffolk.
Surely a massive fine or stadium ban is worthy.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fan.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.Objects also thrown at Ref as he left the field . Hope they throw the book at the club .
Yes it’s a good game.Hollywood ending
Yes it’s a good game.Hollywood ending
Another fucking prat in the standsI thought there were 27 thousand of them...
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.It doesn't. They absolutely revel in the "look at us aren’t we naughty" aspect.
Good grief. Is there another club in the country where fans regularly do that? They seem to have way more of their fair share of idiots in the crowd. It must embarrass the living shit out of the normal fans.Objects also thrown at Ref as he left the field . Hope they throw the book at the club .
ShefU v Bristol Coty is a decent game. Two great goals so far with Callum O’Hare being excellent for the equaliser. O’Hare is one we let go too cheaply I feel. Barry is doing okay too in his make or break season.
ShefU v Bristol Coty is a decent game. Two great goals so far with Callum O’Hare being excellent for the equaliser. O’Hare is one we let go too cheaply I feel. Barry is doing okay too in his make or break season.
Anthony Gordon just done his hamstring. You would think it would keep him out next week.
Dundee leading 1-0 at Ibrox.
Our friends at 5Live excel again by describing today's match at Wembley as the "Community Shield Final".
First time since 1989 that Rangers have failed to win either of their first two league games. I'm sure Russell Martin will sort it out though.
First time since 1989 that Rangers have failed to win either of their first two league games. I'm sure Russell Martin will sort it out though.
The way he's going he'll be out before the transfer window closes!
Charity Shield todayMe. Went on my own as none of my mates wanted to go.
Withe 2-2 Falcao
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Charity Shield today
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Charity Shield today
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Falco?
Yes, first visit to Wembley as a 5 year old.
Didn’t return until 1994.
Charity Shield today
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Charity Shield todayYes I was there but it meant sod all to me then and as an annual event still does. Hope the money does genuinely help out charities but it’s a glorified practice match
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Charity Shield todayYes, first big game in our new Le Coq kit, and first sight of Tony Morley in his pre match white jacket and newly dyed blonde hair.
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Commentator actually suggesting that goal on 20 mins had something to do with Jota. “Hairs on the back of the neck stuff”.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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Why are men so rubbish at penalties?
Wednesday 1 up at HT.And great to see the football community coming together as Wednesday fans protest against their abysmal owner.
He missed his.Why are men so rubbish at penalties?
Entschuldigung!
Cheery scoucers booing the National Anthem
If you don't like it don't sing it.
Come on you Eagles
To be honest, most Liverpool fans are Scandos or Irish, anyway, so they should feel nothing for our national anthem.
Cheery scoucers booing the National Anthem
If you don't like it don't sing it.
Come on you Eagles
I agree nobody is forced to join in but booing it spoils it for those who do want to sing. For the record I’m not a royalist and b ever sign it but I never boo either.
Booing it then complaining about background noise for your minutes silence is very hypocritical.
To be honest, most Liverpool fans are Scandos or Irish, anyway, so they should feel nothing for our national anthem.
We've a bit more class than that, we didn't even boo it when your rugger buggers rocked up at Croke Park.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
No, I had a deprived childhood, we couldn't even afford 'Tennis Girl'. Had to make do with Iron Maiden's 'The Trooper' and 'Two Minutes to Midnight'.
I’m miffed and jealous that in 4 months Palace have won more times at Wembley than we have in 8 appearances since the new stadium opened.
Jealousy is the weakest emotion in love and life, but perfectly acceptable when it comes to football.
Did you used to do Athena posters in the 80s Gary?
No, I had a deprived childhood, we couldn't even afford 'Tennis Girl'. Had to make do with Iron Maiden's 'The Trooper' and 'Two Minutes to Midnight'.
‘Tennis Girl’ photo was taken in Birmingham I think.
Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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Charity Shield todayI was there. Also the day I met my wife (not at Wembley)
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I was there too. The only time I haven't seen us lose.
Charity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I saw a Spurs fan getting kicked around like a rag doll by a group of Villa on the concourse in our end before the game. It was hideous to see and there's still twats around that glamourise football violence.
While waiting at the bar, two sly bastards side punched the brother and ran off before we could do anythingCharity Shield todayYeah. It kicked off in the stadium didn't it.
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I saw a Spurs fan getting kicked around like a rag doll by a group of Villa on the concourse in our end before the game. It was hideous to see and there's still twats around that glamourise football violence.
A mob of Spurs came up to the steps of our end at Wembley a couple of hours before kick off and there was a flurry of fighting. I remember I'd just left school and was amazed that somebody had enough money to throw an unopened can of beer at us.
There was a sizeable contingent of Spurs in the lower section of the Villa end that day. I didn't go downstairs at HT but a load of Spurs had come under the stands to confront the Villa fans drinking there. Apparently it was mayhem and they were seen off after a fierce battle.
We went with the Sutton Coldfield Lions club coach and there was lots of gesturing on the coach park after from people sat safely on coaches, but I didn't see any more trouble.
Bromley knock Ipswich out. Meaning Bromley are better than the noses.
Really hope PSG totally dick Spurs tonight.
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
Nine times (none since 1948).
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
Looks like their main stand is closed tonight.Doesn't it look like that most games?
SHA v Sheff Utd is on ITV4 tonight, if anyone's interested.
I wonder if that coked up twat with the sunglasses is in attendance.
They need to interview him for the part 2 of the documentary.
That Selles is a complete fraud of a manager. How has he got this job?
Sheffield United are fucking hopeless
The first team got battered at home 1-4 Saturday by Bristol city :DSheffield United are fucking hopeless
This is only their reserves tbf
Seems the way to beat PSG is to just hoof it long and hope it sticks or you can win a set-piece.they are far from invincible, they'd lost 4 times in the ECL last season before we beat the down B6
1-1 at the Sty.
Great goal as well.
1-1 at the Sty.has any angry inbreds entered the pitch as of yet
good finish by Lisa
good finish by Lisa
Yep apart from the double deflection it was.
Probably too little too late but PSG get a goal back
Vitanha can't hit the target at all.
No DonnaSummer to save pens though. How good is Maurice at them?
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
It's a much higher percentage than that
Being a piss taking, blinkered hypocrite is a big part of football. If I supported another club i'd have ripped the piss out of us over Emi turning into Boris Johnson and the ref screwing us over as we missed out on the CL. And that's how it should be.
So you have never ever took the piss out of a rival losing in Europe? Or being knocked out of a cup early? Do you have any fun?
I have long thought this, but laughing at the misfortune of others is at least 25% of the 'value' to be had from liking football.
It's a much higher percentage than that
Only watched the penalties, but what I liked was that all the players who took proper penalties scored, while the players who tried to be sly stop-start cùnts missed.
On MOTD prediction programme, Danny Murphy has got us to finish 5th, which is a bit worrying!
Another goalkeeping howler for Hibs. 2-2 on aggregate now.
You can see the Playoffs fill in during real time on the BBC fixtures for that day.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scores-fixtures/2025-08-21
Just noticed that Palace Reserves will be playing away in Norway the Thursday before our match.
Hibs have Hibsed it. Unbelievable.Literally 2 seconds from the end of stoppage time
Red Imps get Sporting Braga as a reward.
Red Imps get Sporting Braga as a reward.
They’ll in all likelihood lose but do they drop straight to the Conf League Group?
Hibs will play Legia for a place in the group stages. Safe to say we'll all be cheering them on in that one.
I haven't missed Peter Drury. Waiting for the inevitable.... SALAH! MO SALAH!
I haven't missed Peter Drury. Waiting for the inevitable.... SALAH! MO SALAH!
Oh my god how annoying is that.
Jotas number?
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
Jotas number?
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
Semenya reported racial abuse to the referee who stopped the game and spoke to the 4th official and both managers.Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
Im going pub. fcuk this . see u tomorrow
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
They stopped play as a Liverpool fan racially abused Semenyo who was taking a throw in.
Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.not a good look
Premier League have confirmed Antoine Semenyo reported being racially abused by someone in the crowd, which is why Anthony Taylor stopped the game.Semenya reported racial abuse to the referee who stopped the game and spoke to the 4th official and both managers.Booing the national anthem and abusing opposition players because of the colour of their skin. Champions of England - just fuck off.
What's this?
What’s going to be funny is if Liverpool back out of the Isak deal because Ekitike does well. A player that ironically Newcastle wanted to replace Isak. They are them lumbered with a forward who went on strike trying to force a move away.Bit of insider trading and he'd end up in Saudi . Problem resolved.
Etikite looks lightweight to me, lucky goal aside. Isak is a similar kind of player actually, but better.
Decent goal. What else is on?When the boat comes in
I've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
I've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
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Will do , Knock off version or genuineI've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
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Will do , Knock off version or genuineI've just cracked open a Cruzcampo, never had one before, delightful beer, nice bite but not offensive, lovely chilled and you don't get that gooey stuff at the back of your throat that some lagers leave, very nice, highly recommended, thought that might bring some excitement to this gripping start of the Prem season.£6.50 a pint in my local . Feck that .
Get in .
Check out Aldi 👍👍👍😊
This is going to end badly I can tell .
Some Spanish lagers are very nice. In addition to Cruzcampo there is Mahou, Estrella Galicia, Malaga Victoria and Alhambra (not sure if you can get Alhambra in the UK, I myself have not seen it in pubs or supermarkets here).
Peter Drury makes me feel physically sick.
He doesn't vary it... there's no "he'll have to have a go...". or "great shot fine goal!" It's just the players name every time.Bellowed at full volume. It's so tedious to listen to.
He doesn't vary it... there's no "he'll have to have a go...". or "great shot fine goal!" It's just the players name every time.Bellowed at full volume. It's so tedious to listen to.
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
All I've done is moan tonight and I'm really not feeling football at the moment. Everything about is leaving me pissed off. Hopefully tomorrow will be better 👍I wouldn't hold your breath .
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
All I've done is moan tonight and I'm really not feeling football at the moment. Everything about is leaving me pissed off. Hopefully tomorrow will be better 👍
Serves the bloke in the wheelchair right!
For me, the main reason for watching football on a dodgy stick isn’t to evade cost, it’s so I don’t have to listen to drury and Carragher wanking themselves off over the Sky 6. Sky/TNT don’t even try and hide the bias anymore.Bit of both and I agree with the above but it's 100% not to feed the machine too .
Surely these commentators have to attend work appraisals, performance reviews and the like?
'Peter, this thing you keep doing...'
They got the result today but that midfield looks far too open for Liverpool, I can see them conceding a lot more than they did last year.that Konate makes Liam Ridgewell look like Paul McGrath.
I've always thought he looked decent but in the charity shield and again today he looked like competition winner, no idea what has gone wrong with him but he got caught out of position time and time again tonight.
For me, the main reason for watching football on a dodgy stick isn’t to evade cost, it’s so I don’t have to listen to drury and Carragher wanking themselves off over the Sky 6. Sky/TNT don’t even try and hide the bias anymore.Yes, I found a stream with Conor Macnamara on commentary. Much better.
Hugh Johns. Every other answer is very very wrong.Yes, Hugh Johns was a maestro, but always Barry Davies for me.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
That "Aguero" is iconic because it was the very late goal that won them the title on the last day. There is definitely no need to do it ad-nauseum evey match including the very first game of the season. As an aside, was there any iconic commentary when Thomas broke through against Liverpool in 89?
I've just seen a clip of Kevin Phillips talking about the Albion game on a Sky ad on Twitter. His hair, my God. If I worked for the Turkish Hair Transplant Marketing Board I'd sue him for compromising the brand, for insulting the very concept of hair.That has to be a weave. No way that's natural lol
Edit: here it is.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5JGqsYP/Screenshot-2025-08-16-11-47-21.png) (https://ibb.co/b5JGqsYP)
Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Well, true Olf. Notwithstanding, the hunger side tried to play football: we were inept!Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Well, true Olf. Notwithstanding, the hunger side tried to play football: we were inept!Wulvs vs Citeh demonstrates the dynamism that we lacked today; we looked so ponderous!Mate, 115C are playing relegation fodder, we played a very strong team.
Moore, Motson, Gubba, Darke, Davies…. Even Tyler but his “Aguerooooooooo” is probably responsible for Drury doing the same style every shot.
How on earth is that a foul. Fcuk off.They dug deep to find a rule to protect a Sky6 club. Disgraceful.
Forest had a really good season and look very bright and adventurous. Chris Wood doesn’t appear to be slowing down either. Brentford on the hand look horrendous.
Can they sell him to a team that doesn't play against us, please?Small Heath? 😂
Why one metre when everything else in football is measured in yards including the distance from the ball to the wall?Ok, who wants to analyse all goals from free kicks (post 2019 rule introduction) to see how consistent this rule has been applied?
Peter Dreary..... "its Cunha.... MATHEUS CUNHA!"
Nice elbow ignored by the ref…
Please tell me Shaw was booked deg that tackle?
Maan U have been much the better team this half, unlucky or incompetent to be still 1 downHuff and puff
Odegaard is shit
It's like Drury has to keep naming the players repeatedly just in case you don't know who they are....And reminding us who they play for.
I'm with Olaftab, I actually think Mank Yoo haven't been that bad. I think they've been fairly competitive compared to last 2-3 years. Still fancy Arsenal on the counter though.agreed, and showing how to use wingbacks - both Dorgu and Dalot have put the Arse under pressure. Even Casemiro looks better. And, Mbuemo is a decent player.
It's like Drury has to keep naming the players repeatedly just in case you don't know who they are....And reminding us who they play for.
Both teams look better than we or Newcastle looked yesterday.PSR doing its thing then obviously.
Why was Gyokeres getting pelters from the home fans?
Drury is going my head in
Dunno who had the closer escape.Why was Gyokeres getting pelters from the home fans?
decided not to go to the twats
Am I the only one who only remembers Gykores as an average striker in the championship?No. Add me to the list.
Improved so much that they ended the game trying to lump it to Maguire.
Am I the only one who only remembers Gykores as an average striker in the championship?No. Add me to the list.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
He played for Coventry in the championship and didn’t pull up any trees.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Manure have been regularly raising their game against bigger sides though, especially under Amorium. It is when they play crapper sides they struggle more.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Manure have been regularly raising their game against bigger sides though, especially under Amorium. It is when they play crapper sides they struggle more.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
Just heard an Arsenal caller on 5 Live saying he thinks Manyoo can take a number of points off the big 6 this season.
Not sure if it was a snide dig or not.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
Watching chevalier for PSG. One serious save to make so far. He palmed it into a dangerous area but was helped out by his defender buying a free kick.
My memory is clearly not great. I’m not doubting the law exists but a cursory glance on Twitter gives at least 3 recent examples where goals have been scored in the same circumstances and not disallowed (Chelsea benefitting vs Bournemouth last season). The issue is inconsistent application. I’m not against VAR per se but it cannot be applied inconsistently.
Re the Palace disallowed goal. A rules has been dug up which I’ve never heard of and I’m pretty sure hasn’t been enforced before. Seems like a case of protecting the Big 6. Can someone explain what I’m missing.
If chelsea scored that there is absolutely no chance that gets disallowed. Its like the one against us ve manure a rule no one knew about.
Its funny when these "rules" come into light its always the smaller club that gets fucked over.
Anyone remember that penalty manure got after the final whistle blew i think it was against brighton a few years ago? Another example
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
Yep, it was an obvious preplanned shove to create the space and was correctly disallowed.
Though they didn't penalise the shove, they stated he was too close to the wall.
With that shoving not being reviewed or penalised, and with Newcastle pushing us all over the place on Saturday, it seems like you're allowed to do it!
It looked like the Palace player pushed 2 Chelsea players out of the way and the ball went into the goal through the gap created by the push.
I would be disappointed if that goal was given against us.
Yep, it was an obvious preplanned shove to create the space and was correctly disallowed.
Though they didn't penalise the shove, they stated he was too close to the wall.
With that shoving not being reviewed or penalised, and with Newcastle pushing us all over the place on Saturday, it seems like you're allowed to do it!
Ungentlemanly conduct is what it was. A term rarely used in football nowadays.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!
I'm glad they have an appreciation of 80s pop music. Step right Up is probably my favourite of hers.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!If he stays fit and recovers some form, he will soon become the most fouled player again.
Jackie G bound to get quite the reception at Elland Road tonight!If he stays fit and recovers some form, he will soon become the most fouled player again.
Grealish on bench, Calvert-Lewin not even in squad. Makes it more dull than it could have been.
Is it just me or does Pickford look really small in that goal. He looks smaller than 6’1
Typical Moyes borefest. Theylll win 1-0Good
Is it just me or does Pickford look really small in that goal. He looks smaller than 6’1
2 very dull sides so far.
Leeds all fart and no shit
Everton not even a fart
These are two very very ordinary line ups. The Villa Grealish will standout like a diamond, Mancity Grealish will just blend in.And fair play to them they have spent 45 minute proving me right.
I don't like Grealish's new hair.
How VAR can give that!
It’s all about creating drama, not about getting decisions correct.
I'd be pretty seething if that was given against us, tbh.Didn’t we have a few similar given against us last season? Mings and Cash spring to mind.
I'd be pretty seething if that was given against us, tbh.Didn’t we have a few similar given against us last season? Mings and Cash spring to mind.
Good to see a couple of the promoted teams getting a win under their belts.Not when one of them is DFL it's not.
This game is low on quality but high in endeavor
He brings grealish on and they go more negative fcuk them.
The reassuring thing about this game is that much of the league is this bland. So as average as we were that’s not far from our floor in terms of performance. We don’t play a lot worse than that and generally a lot better. Everton look just as you expect a Moyes side to look. Fuck me they are dull.
Jack looks gone to me.
Great to see Leeds win the league.
Or was it just a game.
Jack looks gone to me.
I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.
I thought he did his usual thing of reliably not giving the ball away. But once he’d passed it on the next player gave it away each time so not sure what benefit he gave them really.
Decisions like that call into question the integrity of the game and specifically the match officials.
The PL are trying to flog more and more games but to do so it looks like they are needing PGMOL to create drama.
How VAR can give that!
It’s all about creating drama, not about getting decisions correct.
I’m not sure it’s about integrity. But the fact that they won’t overturn decisions makes VAR pointless. Both referees and VAR have their chance to make subjective decisions and will then back each other so there are now two opportunities in every incident for stupid decisions to be made.
I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
Not one of his teammates appealed and his protests were that he was pointing at his arm. For some reason he thinks that's a good argument. For me he leaned into the ball knowing it was going to hit his arm. I think nowadays even the most blatant of decisions are argued about by players and managers who are trying to influence future outcomes in their favour.I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
But it was a clear and obvious error.
But it was a clear and obvious error.
I didn’t see the incident live but picked it up on the highlights. Had to watch it a few times to see what all the controversy was about. I thought it was a clear case of hand ball.
Not one of his teammates appealed and his protests were that he was pointing at his arm. For some reason he thinks that's a good argument. For me he leaned into the ball knowing it was going to hit his arm. I think nowadays even the most blatant of decisions are argued about by players and managers who are trying to influence future outcomes in their favour.I know im in a tiny minority but I actually thought it was a clear pen. For me Tarkowsky leans into the ball knowing it's going to hit his arm. I'll put my tin hat on now.He leant into it but the ball had deflected off another defender so the stretch seemed more exaggerated, and he was trying desperately to tuck his arm in.
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
Just watched it as it appears to be one of those things that everyone needs to have an opinion on. Penalty I reckon.
Holding your arms by your body and moving your body to block the ball with your arm isn't really any different to moving your arm and blocking the ball with your arm.
Big fuss about nothing for me.
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
He’s a defender he’s trying to block it with his body while trying his best to get his arm round his back out of the way
Have people gone raving mad saying he should be getting out of the way of the ball, is that what you think defenders should do in the box, try and get out of the way when the balls kicked towards goal rather than block it it’s hilarious
If that’s a clear hand ball when the player is literally trying to move his arm behind his back then the game is completely fucked
Whilst moving himself closer to the ball.....
If he was moving out of the way, that's different, but he initiated the movement.
He’s a defender he’s trying to block it with his body while trying his best to get his arm round his back out of the way
Have people gone raving mad saying he should be getting out of the way of the ball, is that what you think defenders should do in the box, try and get out of the way when the balls kicked towards goal rather than block it it’s hilarious
Just watched it as it appears to be one of those things that everyone needs to have an opinion on. Penalty I reckon.
Holding your arms by your body and moving your body to block the ball with your arm isn't really any different to moving your arm and blocking the ball with your arm.
Big fuss about nothing for me.
Sounds about right. I wouldn't have been amazed if it wasn't given but I'm not surprised it was, it's nothing like as controversial as some are making it out to be.
ha ha your all mentalWhy because we dont all agree with you?
ha ha your all mentalWhy because we dont all agree with you?
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street
I do not believe you are being honest here, sorry.
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
Just wait till you watch Mrs Brown's Boys.
So he moved his body in the direction of the ball by accident?
Rangers. Lol.
Rangers. Lol.
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
Would that be the champions league?Exactly that , all these preliminary rounds / qualifying rounds blah blah . "Champions league" trade descriptions need to get involved . Joke .
Would that be the champions league?Exactly that , all these preliminary rounds / qualifying rounds blah blah . "Champions league" trade descriptions need to get involved . Joke .
Wanted them to win as don't want to play the twats.
the first rule of defending according to H&VLiterally no one has said anything about him or any other player having to move out of the way of the ball. He leaned his body in with the intention of blocking the ball. Unfortunately it struck his arm instead when it was goalbound. Thats a penalty. Imagine we had a shot on target and its heading straight into the net. Tarkowsky is on the goal line and does the same thing. He leans in to try to block the ball and it strikes his arm and they clear the ball. Do you think you would want a penalty for that or would you be ok with it?
If an opposition player takes a shot at goal, the job of the defender is to try and move out the way of the balls trajectory in no way should he try and block it or move towards it fuck me no, it might hit his arm and it’ll be a penalty even if the arm is in no way protruding, it would obviously be a lot better if the main defenders had no arms
honestly, my balls are rolling down the street I’ve laughed so hard at some of your explanations
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I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.I think the bone of contention here is whether or not he did it on purpose and that is something we will never know. He leans towards the path of the ball and although his arm is tucked in the ball strikes the arm. For me i think he knew there was a good chance that the ball would strike his arm so it's a legitimate penalty.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.I think the bone of contention here is whether or not he did it on purpose and that is something we will never know. He leans towards the path of the ball and although his arm is tucked in the ball strikes the arm. For me i think he knew there was a good chance that the ball would strike his arm so it's a legitimate penalty.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I think there’s a lot of handball posts above from people applying the law ftom about 10 years ago, it has moved on, simply hitting the hand isn’t enough for handball. That’s a fact.
The guidance by refs for years has been don’t make you body bigger than it’s natural shape and defenders were applauded for putting their arms by their sides. Unless a player deliberately moves his hand towards the ball it’s not a pen per the laws. The player was clearly trying to block the ball with his body (that’s his job), his arm tucked as instructed.
The ticking of the arm, not moving hand towards the ball deliberately and the late deflection are all reasons it’s not a penalty.
Astonishing decision.
The only reason I can think of that it was given is referee error on the pitch and VAR yet again not wanting to undermine him when they saw the footage.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
Well yes. So where it’s so marginal and therefore grey give the advantage to the attacking team. And I know it works both ways. But when you don’t know for the sure the immediate contact of the foot on the ball for a cross, then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. Right now everything goes to the defending team regarding offside.
I get the black and white nature of it, but if that is the measurement it's impossible to get it right every time.
Well, yes. Grey areas exist and always will do.
Well yes. So where it’s so marginal and therefore grey give the advantage to the attacking team. And I know it works both ways. But when you don’t know for the sure the immediate contact of the foot on the ball for a cross, then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. Right now everything goes to the defending team regarding offside.
Sure. No disagreement in principle. But as soon as one of those "benefit of the doubt" calls go against us, this place will be filled with "he's either offside or isn't". And very much not offering the benefit of the doubt.
Also - while I appreciate you've moved us on to offsides, much of the last few pages have been people getting very angry about the attacking team getting the benefit of the doubt on a marginal decision!
There is no handball rule specifically benefitting an attacking team at all. The same rules already mentioned apply to attackers in the box. If anything the handball rules are more benefit for the defensive team because if the ball accidently hits the goal scorers hand/arm in any way, it is ruled out no matter what.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
Well you do see corruption/ulterior motives in every single football decision, but how you can think that type of decision would only be awarded these days WHEN we have had some awful decisions go our way. Remember when Elleray awarded a handball because Delaney spun around to looking for the ball that had just been flicked up and the dropping ball hit his arm as he turned? I don't think "drama" was needed then.
Celtic match is crap.
Fenerbahce v Benfica ft Jhon Duran may be worth a watch this evening, on TNT, just about to kick off.
He will be back at Leicester in a few weeks once the scouring agent has been sacked.
Don't really fancy us having to travel to Kazakhstan for a midweek match, so could do with Celtic prevailing.
A Copa Sudamericana match in Buenos Aires was abandoned after violent clashes between fans, with some being stripped and beaten.
Ten people were seriously injured and more than 300 arrested at Wednesday's last-16 second leg between Argentine hosts Independiente and Universidad de Chile, according to local media.
A stun grenade was among the objects thrown by spectators while one fan fell from the top tier of a stand at the Estadio Libertadores de America in the Avellaneda area of the Argentine capital.
Violence flared at half-time as objects including toilets, sinks, pieces of masonry and seats were thrown from the away section on to the section below them housing home supporters.
Home fans then appeared to enter the away section early in the second half, attacking visiting supporters and forcing them to flee.
Rodgers agent will be busy for next few weeks. Openly critical of the board there again like he was when they wouldn't give him the funds to sign McGinn back in the day.
What is obvious is that no one knows what constitutes a handball now becomes it ( the law) is interpreted differently .
What is happening is that penalties are being awarded that would not have been awarded pre- var. I can not help thinking that refs are now there to sell the game by increasing the drama.
Well you do see corruption/ulterior motives in every single football decision, but how you can think that type of decision would only be awarded these days WHEN we have had some awful decisions go our way. Remember when Elleray awarded a handball because Delaney spun around to looking for the ball that had just been flicked up and the dropping ball hit his arm as he turned? I don't think "drama" was needed then.
Jesus don’t bring back that nightmare.
The ball actually came off Niall Quinn’s arm
Onto Delaney’s arm. Surprised he couldn’t spot that given the x ray vision he had perfected by the time Emckmann let a ball go under his foot a couple of years later at the sty
Rodgers agent will be busy for next few weeks.
No Eze for Palace. They’ve had a crap few weeks.
So Aberdeen v FCSB, or Palace v Fredrikstad?
So Aberdeen v FCSB, or Palace v Fredrikstad?
Not Shelbourne v Linfield?
Penalty to Shelbourne. Slipped as he took it, and missed.
Dons 2 down at a similar time.
No Eze for Palace. They’ve had a crap few weeks.
Apart from winning the Charity Shield and drawing at Chelsea.
Why did Sanchez not try to save it with his left hand?
Cracking goal
Thought that was a foul on PaquetaIt was certainly a poor pass to him from Diouf, but no foul.
Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
Ok Gareth .Sideshow Bob is playing actually quite well .As he has for the last 18 months plus
He’s an annoying cheating little shit but he was one of the most consistent players on a team that got top 4 and was also excellent for Spain in the last tournament
Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Kilman is shit
Bayern v Leipzig is on BBC. Bayern are cruising, Kane has just got their 4th and Ned is on the bench for Leipzig.
Game on, 4-1 now!!
Jeez. Potter isn't going to last the weekend.Especially being a long bank holiday one . Taxi .....
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Spammers, are pretty bad. Crap squad, crap owners and an over-rated manager who has done f.a. since he has been ther.On a hiding to nothing taking the Spam job.
Spammers, are pretty bad. Crap squad, crap owners and an over-rated manager who has done f.a. since he has been ther.On a hiding to nothing taking the Spam job.
All the money spent by unpronounceable on crap players, no budget to change it.
Relegation candidates.
Horrible away strip Chelsea have got. All that money and classless.
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Did he not choose Newcastle over usCov lad up there with wiggy at Spurs .
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Forest?
Knowle Village would beat this shit. Potter is gone. Amazing that one/two games in and Forest / West Ham having their own first manager sacked contest.Potter's reputation on the slide big time. West Ham look as bad as Everton last week.Chelsea are top 4 material with the squad they've been alllowed to assemble .
Forest?
Manager and chairman seem to have had a falling out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0l62pnejyro
Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
That's about his level.Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
Actually, didn't our Dean try to sign him when we got back up into the Prem?
Neto is a greedy twat.Motm imo
Ward-Prowse exactly the type of player Gerrard or O'Neil would have signed.
West Ham seemed half decent going forward at times but they looked bloody awful at the back.
Potter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
A career in punditry beckonsPotter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
I think there's a strong argument he's not achieved better than par in any job he's done since leaving Östersund.
All of those "well, he's the obvious candidate" takes for pretty much any job going over the last few years were mental in my opinion.
Potter has won 5 games since taking over in Jan and most of those were against garbage sides. His decline since leaving Brighton is impressive.
I think there's a strong argument he's not achieved better than par in any job he's done since leaving Östersund.
All of those "well, he's the obvious candidate" takes for pretty much any job going over the last few years were mental in my opinion.
Man City bench is mega impressive.
Empty seats at Citeh, good job they are building that new tier.
That should be a penaltyIf you're talking about Porro, it was outside the box.
0-2 Spuds.
Either Man City are still on the downward slide under Pep or Spurs have finally got a proper manager.
Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B
Paulinha is a very good player and you can see how Spurs are benefiting from his defensive ability in midfield.Yep. Baffles me that Kompany didn't rate him.
Coventry 4-0 up at home to QPR.
Coventry 4-0 up at home to QPR.
Celebrating now owning their stadium
I reckon Arsenal will finish above us this season.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Levante beating Barcelona two-nil. On Disney+ if anyone has that.
Levante beating Barcelona two-nil. On Disney+ if anyone has that.
Rashford subbed off at half-time. Clearly can't do it on a warm Saturday night in Valencia.
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Maybe, but Arsenal vs Leeds isn't really evidence of it.
If you have one of the best five or six teams in the world and they spend another quarter of a billion pounds on good players, you probably expect them to comfortably beat a newly promoted side under pretty much all circumstances, no?
Some really poor teams in the top division this season.
Maybe, but Arsenal vs Leeds isn't really evidence of it.
If you have one of the best five or six teams in the world and they spend another quarter of a billion pounds on good players, you probably expect them to comfortably beat a newly promoted side under pretty much all circumstances, no?
No but I thought Leeds were dreadful last week even when beating Everton. Everton, West Ham & Brentford are rotten.
The top end of the table are in a league of their own. Nearly every other team is struggling to even make a few signings.
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
I wonder why we didn’t re-sign Grealish?That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
On the bright side we aren't playing until next Sunday.There is that.
After two matches, however will we recover?
On the bright side we aren't playing until next Sunday.Not so good. If you lose on a Saturday at least you can drink yourself silly and have Sunday to recover. Not so Sunday night if you have work on Monday. Means the gloom carries over to the following week!
That Grealish looks incisive. We could use someone like him.
Like just about everyone else, we can’t afford him. I’m fucking sick of saying, reading, typing that
Is Mount not also holding Bassey there? It’s just that Bassey is stronger?Mount goes to block Bassey then he gets thrown to the floor, you just know VAR would not be looking for it if it was the other way round.
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Grealish is still a great player in the right set up
Which wouldn’t be ours at the moment as we play like a Pep team slow build up pass across the lines to and fro attack when all the oppositions players are in place behind the ball and then double up on Grealish give him no space
We would get Man City Grealish just because of the way we play
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Another penalty to the plastic tossers?
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
Another penalty to the plastic tossers?
there was multiple holding in the box from both teams why single out one . Not even mentioned in the commentary
what about shaw behind him fouling the fulham player ??
They said on comms that the Shaw one happened marginally later than the Mount one.
At least they are calling out the inconsistency about the push and no VAR.Not really calling it out. They should be saying how the hell can var treat the 2 instances so differently
How is that not a yellow for Dorgu?! Horrible challenge on Lucic.Isn’t that obvious?
Dendoncker starting in midfield for Oviedo tonight against Real Madrid, talk about baptism of fire!
Dendoncker starting in midfield for Oviedo tonight against Real Madrid, talk about baptism of fire!
Tchouaméni and Valverde won't get a sniff.
Pretty remarkable that Man U got away with that blatant push for their goal.
Liverpools turn to try and get through a game without Joelinton injuring one of there players…1 min 40 to commit a foul
We want Liverpool to win don’t we?
Newcastle are very much on top vs Liverpool. This is how we should have gone at Newcastle in our first home game. Not be passive but attack and get the crowd fired up. We would have won.
How come St James's has a spidercam and Villa Park still doesn't? Fuckin' Sky/Heck/Premier League...It’s because they have Pope on the pitch
No I don’t want Liverpool to get too far ahead.We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Yeah, probably better for us.
what times JJ on ;(I ain't looking forward to that bit.
We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Never .
what times JJ on ;(
I want them both to lose.We want Liverpool to win don’t we?Never .
Ramsey will get his chance for a few starts now with Gordon suspended. No doubt will cook up a storm.
I think red's a bit harsh there myselfReally? I disagree i thought it was a definite red. Gordon is becoming quite a dislikeable twat.
least nan can go home early and get a blue rinse.Ha ha ha.
I think red's a bit harsh there myself
I think red's a bit harsh there myself
He went in on the standing foot/leg without any attempt at the ball itself. The only way it wouldn't be a red is if they thought he had made no contact but he did, even if only skimmed him.
Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
Generally agree , but not if it helps the sewer rats .Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
They just showed the stud marks down the back of Van Dykes leg. A very poor challenge by nans hair.I think red's a bit harsh there myself
He went in on the standing foot/leg without any attempt at the ball itself. The only way it wouldn't be a red is if they thought he had made no contact but he did, even if only skimmed him.
And traveling at full pace
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.Yeah but it is Van Dyk. Surely tempting.
We're not even playing the same game as them at the moment. No point worrying about them. Newcastle getting twatted would be good for us.Generally agree , but not if it helps the sewer rats .Hate to confirm it but that's a red and probably 3 games .Good anything that fucks Newcastle up is fine by me.
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
But a definite redI’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
A light graze and an undressing of the sock. Kinky but hardly violent.
I’m surprised anyone thinks that’s a yellow. High, fast, drags his foot and clearly no intention than to hurt the player.
A light graze and an undressing of the sock. Kinky but hardly violent.
I started to feel sympathy for Newcastle monetarily then I saw Tindall so they can get in the sea.
Isn't the 6 one of their new defenders?Yes, Kerkez.
Sad but I hope Tonali is out for the season
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
And Newcastle above us once again on goal differenceSurely goals scored?
He's shite at defending crosses regardless based on that.How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
And Newcastle above us once again on goal differenceSurely goals scored?
They have we haven't but we're both -1 GD.
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
Exactly what is the point of refcam? Just so we can watch a middle aged bloke with waddling arms jogging about.If that's your thing I'll be going for a run in the morning around 9ish.
How much did they spend on Kerkez?
He’s a bloody good player, but he’s a proper wing back.
Physically bullied by Guimares for that goal.
Christ it’s like watching my ex with another bloke.Gave her a 7/10 in fairness ;)
my sons gone bed , cant watch it.Good lad, proper Villa.
Newcastle showing 10 times the spirit we've shown in either of our matches so far this season.
Pathetic from Konate.
Bruno G has destroyed their midfield the bit I've watched. He's done it all really. JJ looks lively too
salah turned into bailey
Geordies don’t half get excited….
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
I’m frustrated by the first two games, but let’s not start lauding Newcastle as compared to us.
nice to see a team go for the jugalar instead of slow as fuck.
I’m frustrated by the first two games, but let’s not start lauding Newcastle as compared to us.
You have to feel sorry for Newcastle.
Oh no, wait.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Kinda jealous we don't have any teen starlets likely to make an impression on our first team.
The 16 year old kid, who got the winner, did more in the few minutes he was on, than Salah did in 103 minutes.And Elanga who was equally useless
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Who is shitting themselves?
Who is shitting themselves?
BC Villain (football) and VillaTim (incontinence).
Who is shitting themselves?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Who is shitting themselves?
BC Villain (football) and VillaTim (incontinence).
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
It is a dig, you’re benching marking Villa fans against Newcastle fans.
I can’t quite work out which games you’re selecting, seems kind of arbitrary. But 74 goals and 30 odd assists from 180-190 league games is pretty bloody good.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
That was last season.
He's scored 17 in his last 61 games (spanning three seasons), so yes it is accurate.
Do you think it's good?
I reckon Ramsey will make the next England squad.Kind of nailed on I'd say now .
Damn, too late.
That was Newcastle’s Macheda moment.
It is a dig, you’re benching marking Villa fans against Newcastle fans.
I can’t quite work out which games you’re selecting, seems kind of arbitrary. But 74 goals and 30 odd assists from 180-190 league games is pretty bloody good.
No its not a dig. Go and check the Unai thread. Wheels have fallen off and there is a malaise at the club. Those were comments posted after the game at the weekend. I used Newcastle because they've had the same points as us both this and last season. Perspective is needed.
You've included assists when I asked about goals so you've proven my point again that it isn't good.
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).
I doubt their fans are shitting themselves as much as ours are. Doubt they're questioning Howe either.
Amazing to construe into an opportunity to have a dig at Villa fans. They probably also wouldn’t look for any possible way to slag off a successful centre forward.
It's not a dig at Villa fans though. It's putting things into perspective.
I got moaned at yesterday for posting about Watkins too much and now you've brought it back up. As you mentioned it, do you think 17 goals in 61 apps is good?
It’s 17 in 54. If you are going to repeat stats at least get them accurate.
That was last season.
He's scored 17 in his last 61 games (spanning three seasons), so yes it is accurate.
Do you think it's good?
Newcastle have started the season with the same points we've got, after finishing level last season (GD I know).Yes, but….
Psychologically, I would still rather not be in the relegation zone when we kick off.
Psychologically, I would still rather not be in the relegation zone when we kick off.
With Palace down there and only having 2 points, it's the first 'six-pointer' of the season.
Jacob got a 5.95 rating on the BBC
Did you notice that Newcastle lost last night but moved up a place in the table? I think I preferred it when tables weren't shown until 4 games had been played, so those sort of quirks had ironed themselves out.Pretty sure that they started the match ahead of us on points then went below on alphabetical order, then on GD, then back above us on GS, then on points, finally remaining ahead on GS. But as theirs was the only game yesterday and they finished it on the same points but worse GD, there is no way they could have gone up vs before k.o
Jacob got a 5.95 rating on the BBC
Those ratings are a bunch of shit and vary wildly according to whether the team has won, drawn or.lost, regardless of the actual quality of individual performance
I know all football is meaningless if you think about it but being in the relegation zone after two matches is completely, utterly and irrefutably meaningless.
Decent chance we are in the relegation zone before we kick off on Sunday. To avoid it we need at least three of the following to happen:
Man U lose vs Burnley (Sat, 3pm)
Wolves fail to win vs Everton (Sat, 3pm)
Newcastle lose at Leeds (Sat, 5.30pm)
Brighton lose vs Man City (Sun, 2pm)
West Ham fail to win at Forest (Sun, 2pm)
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I reckon Ramsey will make the next England squad.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
Did you notice that Newcastle lost last night but moved up a place in the table? I think I preferred it when tables weren't shown until 4 games had been played, so those sort of quirks had ironed themselves out.Pretty sure that they started the match ahead of us on points then went below on alphabetical order, then on GD, then back above us on GS, then on points, finally remaining ahead on GS. But as theirs was the only game yesterday and they finished it on the same points but worse GD, there is no way they could have gone up vs before k.o
I like the early tables because they produce little quirks like Sunderland leading, giving that little thrill of incongruity that is lost as the table sorts itself out later on (2015-16 excepted)
Yep. I can't help but feel that the pressure of starting the day only separated by alphabetical order affected both teams.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
They don't 'mix it up', they play like they have a personal grudge against the sport and are mysteriously allowed to get away with it.
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
I hope Slot's comments can break the injunction a little bit on Newcastle's 'style' of (for want of a better word) 'play'. They're just Stoke with fewer excuses.
I have no issue with them mixing it up . I hope we have some of their energy and physicality in the next game
Precisely, everyone moans about the boring tippy tappy passing from the back style of play, and when a team mixes it up...everyone moans.
Liverpool manager Arne Slot said "he is not too sure he saw a football match" in reference to Newcastle United's gameplan during his side's 3-2 win at St James' Park.
The Reds' 16-year-old forward Rio Ngumoha scored a 100th-minute winner in a breathless match during which Newcastle fought back from 2-0 down with 10 men.
Opta's statistics indicate the ball was in play for 40.8% of the match - the lowest percentage in a Premier League match since February 2010.
"I'm not too sure if I saw a football match," Slot told Sky Sports after the game.
"It was set-piece after set-piece, long throws. It didn't have a lot to do with tactics. But I liked a lot how we stood strong."
Nobody seems to be mentioning how mind buggeringly shit their defending was for Liverpool's winner. It's like the whole of the right side of their back four suddenly vaporised
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
I thought it was noticeable last night that the first piece of passing, composed football Liverpool played after they scored their second just after haft time resulted in the winner 55 minutes later.
Like or loathe Newcastle’ style of play but you can’t argue that it’s been pretty successful and they’ve consistently put themselves amongst the contenders for a European place since Howe was appointed.
There’s a perceived right way to play but it’s a results business, by and large Newcastle get results.
I thought it was noticeable last night that the first piece of passing, composed football Liverpool played after they scored their second just after haft time resulted in the winner 55 minutes later.
but the point people are making is that a lot of what they do is given as free kicks and/or bookings against other teams but Newcastle have largely been allowed to push, pull, kick and shithouse their way through games for years, especially at home.
Man City's shithousing is annoying but only a bit more than the norm. I like a bit of edge, and not just when it's Emi for us but when it's Chiellini or Sergio Ramos or whoever, cracks me up. That's not the issue.
What we're saying about Newcastle is that it's the whole gimmick. They don't do a bit of cheeky whatnot - the entire style is based on getting away with shit other teams are punished for. That's why they're the worst. And yes, it's on the referees, but I don't see why that should stop me disliking the sportswashing fucks as well!
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
Man City's shithousing is annoying but only a bit more than the norm. I like a bit of edge, and not just when it's Emi for us but when it's Chiellini or Sergio Ramos or whoever, cracks me up. That's not the issue.
What we're saying about Newcastle is that it's the whole gimmick. They don't do a bit of cheeky whatnot - the entire style is based on getting away with shit other teams are punished for. That's why they're the worst. And yes, it's on the referees, but I don't see why that should stop me disliking the sportswashing fucks as well!
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
It's a period of 18 months. A perfectly reasonable sample size.
If his goal record was really good you wouldn't need to keep adding assists to it. Every time you do it you hammer another nail into your own argument.
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
I promise you it is pal.
17 in 54 last season, ended the season before without scoring for five games and he's got no goals in two games this season.
The fact you don't believe it says it all. Everyone knows it's not good enough.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
so you’re saying that in the last 61 league games Watkins has played He’s only scored 17 times
naa that can’t be right
I promise you it is pal.
17 in 54 last season, ended the season before without scoring for five games and he's got no goals in two games this season.
The fact you don't believe it says it all. Everyone knows it's not good enough.
John said league games.
(26 in his last 61 premier league appearances).
Also it’s cutting stats to best suit your argument, which is why it’s better to look at his record in his time at the club. He scores his goals at better (and quite a bit better) than a goal every three games. That’s really good, and when you add his assists (and general play) - which really matter - his record is exceptional.
It's a period of 18 months. A perfectly reasonable sample size.
If his goal record was really good you wouldn't need to keep adding assists to it. Every time you do it you hammer another nail into your own argument.
and if you argument didn't rely on ignoring everything but goals you wouldn't keep refusing to acknowledge that Watkins brings more to the team than just goals. Also cherry picking a date date/subset of games to fit your view is also a sure sign of a very weak argument.
but of course, assists don't count for smirker.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Unlikely Smirker will agree, given it’s purely about scoring goals.
Don’t feed the troll.
Mateta is better and gettable (for the non-members of the Impecunious Billionaire's Club).
Unlikely Smirker will agree, given it’s purely about scoring goals.
Scoring goals is purely about scoring goals yes.
Whether he's an improvement on Watkins is a separate discussion.
Don’t feed the troll.
I don’t think Smirker is a troll, tbf. Just someone entrenched in a position that they’ve convinced themselves is absolute truth.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-called-investigate-unacceptable-32350849?utm_source=reach_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=special_analytic5_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=d87c9bfe-164e-4d49-90a8-0cf88fc68c21&hx=8503f669516879f641cca205fc9d5d6feceb0a32583ff788513201cad91c4512
I must admit I didn't notice this, although as with most games on TV not involving Villa, I was only half-watching. But it didn't seem a problem. And the notion that the game didn't represent decent spectator value as a football match I find utterly bizarre
Don’t feed the troll.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
League games is always the barometer. Cup games are of course important but a player can do a Stainrod and score 20 in a season, but 14 were against Exeter in the League Cup second round.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
More or less 1 in 3.
Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
It's boring now. "Assists don't count" is such a moronic stance to take it isn't worth engaging with any further. VT was better informed on the subject of climate change.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
Don’t feed the troll.
Having a different opinion isn't trolling though. It's posts like that that confirm to me Watkins is beyond criticism for large amounts of our fans.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I’d prefer him to score in every match, each of them the winning goal. So no, it’s not good enough, if you take it in isolation, ignoring everything else he does. Scoring goals is not his only job.
I’d prefer my wife to do more than 15% of the cooking.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.
It's other people who bring assists and running a lot into it as a defence for his poor return, not me. I'm not ignoring anything. It's a discussion about goalscoring, not his all round game.
"Watkins doesn't score enough goals" - must be trolling. Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
More or less 1 in 3.
Yes, frankly, given the other stuff he does too - and I don't care if you think that doesn't come into it, it should.
That's a no.
The discussion from here should be, 'do you think his all round game makes up for his poor goal return?'. That is at least a more reasonable discussion to have.
It shouldn't be, 'his goal return is good enough because he also has assists and runs around a lot'. The latter doesn't mean the former is good enough.
Do you genuinely think 17 goals is a good return for his past 61 games? Not assists, not pre assists, just goals.
I think that's where you depart from pretty much everybody else, you seem to think that if a team scores forty and the striker scores twenty, that striker is better than one who scores fifteen in a team that scores fifty. Which is silly.
I would think that the one who scored 20 goals has a better goal record than the one who scored 15. Which would be fact?
Obviously I can understand the wider point of contribution to the team as a whole but that's not what I'm discussing.
Scoring goals is his primary job. He's a striker. That's their job. Especially when he's the lone striker.
But that’s where you’re most wrong. I don’t want him scoring 9 more if it means the team scores 10 fewer overall.
Well It wouldn't would it, if he scores 9 more it would mean the team has scored 9 more.
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
It’s really terrible stuff. The Lisbon Lions will be spinning in their graves.
Talking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
Amazon...gone to PensTalking of not scoring, anyone watching Kairat v Celtic, no goals after 180 mins so far...dreadful stuff
What side is it on?
‘Tom Brady’s Birmingham City’ oh do fuck off BBC
It’s like suggesting I own BT because my pension fund has a tiny shareholding in it.
SuperKairat go ballistic Celtic are f***** shit!Was looking forward to a trip to Almaty.
And why can’t I have a copper landline for my house phone?It’s like suggesting I own BT because my pension fund has a tiny shareholding in it.
Oh, you're the bastard I need to talk to about my sketchy broadband.
So 1 season outside the top 10 since he arrived, that's not a poor goal return by any reasonable measure, and when you then add everything else on top you get one of the most productive strikers in the league for 5 consecutive seasons, with an overall record of 1 in 2.48
Wednesday 25/1 to beat Leeds at home. Still wouldn't go for it, they're playing the kids for some reason.
I thought it was a covid game when I turned it on..Wednesday 25/1 to beat Leeds at home. Still wouldn't go for it, they're playing the kids for some reason.
Wednesday weans winning! 🤣
Sounds like there are more Leeds than Wednesday fans in the ground due to boycott against owner. Fair play to them.
Hurrah Blose out. Nice clean sheet for Joe.
I do hope Amazon cover that one in their next crapumentary.:D
What’s with the lap of honour when you lose to Vale :-)
Leeds miss all 3 pens. Oh dear lol. Where are the Wednesday fans?
I think Barry Bannan's hair might be starting to thin.
La Bluenose reacts...
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DCL's penalty was worse than anything Celtic managed and that's sort of impressive.
Grimsby v Utd live on both ITV & Sky.... wtf 🙄It’s part of Country’s unwritten constitution that manu have to be live on tv.
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
Rangers have made a good start…not
Rangers have made a good start…not
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
Rangers have made a good start…not
Benfica winning ☹️
Joined by Birmingham City in a few years time when world domination is complete, looking forward to itGrimsby v Utd live on both ITV & Sky.... wtf 🙄It’s part of Country’s unwritten constitution that manu have to be live on tv.
An excellent goal.Great first touch
Man Utd look all over the plaice.They're certainly getting done up like a kipper!
Man U will still win.With a 95th minute winner. Sadly, yes...
Twice picking the ball out of the fishnets.Man Utd look all over the plaice.They're certainly getting done up like a kipper!
Breaking News : Man Utd have offered £250m to sign Aston Villa's Emi Martinez.Plus Garnacho?
Fin-tastic performance from GrimsbyI thought it was only Sam Matterface with his (prepared) puns. Fishy defending and Blunder Park so far.
3-0 to Bruges.In Bruges
Breaking News : Man Utd have offered £250m to sign Aston Villa's Emi Martinez.But Villa have to sell before they can sell.
3-0 to Bruges.4...this will end up at least 9 on agg. Now 5, so easy, the marking is crap
Well, that was an enjoyable first half. Sadly, I've seen enough Villa vs Man U matches to know what's going to happen.No, that sort of capitulation is only reserved for the Villa🙁
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Was he the Colombian centre half? I thought he was excellent, notably in the first game where had had Watkins in his pocket all night.
We want 10! We want 10!
Fin-tastic performance from GrimsbyI thought it was only Sam Matterface with his (prepared) puns. Fishy defending and Blunder Park so far.
He doesn't know his geography well though, reckoning Grimsby fans were singing 'are you Stockport in disguise' ...Scunthorpe.
Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Waiting for the ref to take them off because of the puddles to help ManUre
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Well Jimbo likes to get rid of tea ladies early, so why not?Absolutely no chanceI don't know man. Is it something like a win ratio of 24%.
Oh it’s terrible, but no way he goes this early
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
VidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Club Brugges slamming Rangers without Ordonez…he’d be a handy right sided defender for someone….anyone know anyone needing a right sided defender who can play centre half / right back?
Was he the Colombian centre half? I thought he was excellent, notably in the first game where had had Watkins in his pocket all night.
Ecuador I think - he was outstanding
Should just call it X-ghosts thenVidiprinterWith an XG of 3.5 which makes no fucking sense.
21.48 Brugges 8 (eight) Rangers 0
Because it’s not a real thing?
I don't want to take the piss out of Manure as they have been in this situation in alot of recent cup games and get the rub towards the end.
Commentators getting excited on Sky.
Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
True, apart from Andy T.Ughhh Matterface though.Commentators getting excited on Sky.
ITV for me - cant stand smith
true but all commentators seem to be annoying these days.
And 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
Onana will just have good luck written in his water bottle
Do you really think the ref would call the foul though?
And 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
They're like Chelsea but without the class.
OkayAnd 2-0. Double bollocks.Take it this lot aren't your second team?
From earlier in the thread.Tonight I will be cheering on Basel v København.Are København total ******?
They're like Chelsea but without the class.
Brilliant!
ManUre go to fish town and get battered.
Excellent. Can anyone work out how Man Utd were supposedly trying to sell Onana and then buy Emi for less? I honestly can't think of a worse keeper who's played consistently in the premier league for more than a single season.
Nice to see new signings Mbuemo and Cunha miss.
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...to think, we nearly got him as manager ...
They've had their chips!I saw them at Harrogate earlier this season: They're a tidy team (drew 3-3 at Town).
Well done Grimsby!
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
That's Amorins arse in the fryer...to think, we nearly got him as manager ...
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Even when they weren't in it, we drew the team that took their place.
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Yes!!!
Now, here's a question...
When if ever did Man U last exit a cup competition before Villa even entered it?
1999. When the bastards withdrew from the FA Cup >:(
Even when they weren't in it, we drew the team that took their place.
We drew the bye.
At 2-1, I just wanted Grimsby to kick it into roe z.:D
At 2-1, I just wanted Grimsby to kick it into roe z.
I didn't watch any, but a couple of those results tonight have put a smile on my face.
Maatsen Torres Cash Bramall.
Sitting down hiding on the bench during a penalty shoot-out is the sort of thing people laugh about when you're well-liked, but when you're under pressure you're just giving people more excuse to have a pop.The only thing missing was a brolly.
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
I'd walk if I were Amorim. That club is rotten to the core, and it's bloody brilliant.T
You'd walk away from millions of quid in a payoff?
Well, I wouldn't have gone there in the first place :D
Sitting down hiding on the bench during a penalty shoot-out is the sort of thing people laugh about when you're well-liked, but when you're under pressure you're just giving people more excuse to have a pop.The only thing missing was a brolly.
For all the talk of how rotten the club is they still have a chunk of quality players, and a half decent manager would be doing better than Amorim. He seems absolutely clueless and just blames everyone else.
For all the talk of how rotten the club is they still have a chunk of quality players, and a half decent manager would be doing better than Amorim. He seems absolutely clueless and just blames everyone else.
ManU have won 1 of their last 12 domestic matches.
And since winning at ManC before Xmas they've played 29 domestic matches. Their only wins are Saints (R), Fulham, Leicester (R), Ipswich (R), Leicester (R), and us. Plus Arsenal on pens. It's almost impressive to be that shit at ManU.
To give it some context, Sherwood had a higher win percentage with us than Amorim has at ManU.
That league games? Sherwood must have had an impressive win rate in cups.
Wiki has Amorim at 35.56% which is what I went by.
At some point they're going to have to deal with all the other shit whilst also committing to a manager for a long run and accepting that it's going to take a while to fix.
At some point they're going to have to deal with all the other shit whilst also committing to a manager for a long run and accepting that it's going to take a while to fix.
Two or three hundred years, with any luck.
That league games? Sherwood must have had an impressive win rate in cups.until the FA cup final fiasco.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
I must be getting soft in my old age but I actually felt sorry for Onana. Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
It was, just assumed all their managers were huffy at pens so rolled into one.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
Perhaps the enduring image of the evening was the sight of the Portuguese "cowering" - as described by BBC Sport's chief football news reporter Simon Stone - in the dugout during the penalty shootout, unable to watch.
Amorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
Amorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
Liverpool will play: Real Madrid (home), Inter Milan (away), Atletico Madrid (home), Eintracht Frankfurt (away), PSV Eindhoven (home), Marseille (away), Qarabag (home) and Galatasaray (away)
That doesn't look like the easiest draw they could have got.
That doesn't look like the easiest draw they could have got.
Chelsea are up next. They will play Barcelona (home), Bayern Munich (away), Benfica (home), Atalanta (away), Ajax (home), Napoli (away), Pafos (home) and Qarabag (away)
Same could be said for those games.
Still boils my piss that this absolute shower of shite battered us last game of the season.
QuoteAmorim did not hold back in his assessment of his side's performance, saying: "I think this is a little bit the limit. I think something has to change. I think the team and the players spoke really loud today."
He does love throwing his players under the bus.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Thank God they can't hurt us.
Palace draw 0-0 at Frederikstad to go through to the Conference League group stages.
Thank God they can't hurt us.
I wouldn't have minded them having extra-time this evening though.
Looked like a pretty-much full strength side, which is good. Although Fredrikstad is right in the south of Norway, so no big trip to the Arctic Circle for them.
Looked like a pretty-much full strength side, which is good. Although Fredrikstad is right in the south of Norway, so no big trip to the Arctic Circle for them.
Shush. The pilot might not know.
Very.Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
Very.Amorim going AWOL during the penalties is unforgivable, a good manager should show leadership - and that isn't leadership.
From memory I don't recall him ever watching penalties at Sporting and it never did them any harm. it's a strange trait though.
On the iPlayer.Viaplay for me.
"What a glorious football stadium this is"
- commentator just now on Sky Sports. Speaking about ....... the King Power.
First chorus of SOTV there.
First chorus of SOTV there.
I’m presuming the Blose’ Koumas is Jason’s son?
Dykes is on. Call me old fashioned, but what does he look like?
Also unsurprisingly, he seems happiest on the right.
I’m presuming the Blose’ Koumas is Jason’s son?
Apparently so.
So that wasn't the time he was trying to go back to the dressing room in a huff because the penalties were being taken at "the wrong end".
I could have sworn that was Francis against Preston
2-0.
Can't be long till their fans start throwing stuff on the pitch, surely?
Floriani Mussolini came off the bench to help Cremonese defeat Sassuolo 3-2 on his Serie A debut.
His great-grandfather would probably have been very proud. Came through the Lazio youth system, somewhat unsurprisingly.
Floriani Mussolini came off the bench to help Cremonese defeat Sassuolo 3-2 on his Serie A debut.
His great-grandfather would probably have been very proud. Came through the Lazio youth system, somewhat unsurprisingly.
I mean...I'd change my name...I don't think there are any living descendants of another dictator who still call themselves Hitler...
Unbelievable decision in favour of ChelscumVAR has come to referee games now rather than support clear and obvious errors: the crap behaviour at corners and free kicks continues but a genuine ball-winning manoeuvre is minutely scrutinised in slo-mo after a player stays down (incidentally I didn't see many / any Chelsea players appealing).
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
That's Chalobahs fault
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
At 53.34 ball went out for corner, 8 mins of added time was over, however ref allowed corner to be taken at 54.01 and Chelsea score. How biased is that?Not at all because the 8 minutes was a minimum: the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.
Silva should just refuse to bring them out for the second half. They’ve been fucked over here. Someone needs to make a stand.That would be brilliant if that actually happened.
Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?
Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?
the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.
And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
Or, have a stop-the-clock system, like they have in rugby.the ref will say that he had to delay the game to sort out the pushing and shoving prior to the penultimate corner - however, he probably should have penalised Tosin for using his arm on Lucic during that pushing and shoving.Added time is always a minimum, so can play on. That can't be a surprise?Agreed. But there was no further stoppage in those 8 minutes. So where has the extra minute come from? Why wasn’t it 9 minutes in the first place?
Of course he will. But then we should be seeing 10 mins added on for all the other times the ball isn’t in play.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
VAR again making a dubious call, despite Joao Pedro's push on Anderson just prior.
And anyway, the defender was very close to Chalobah when the cross was attempted.
And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
What is jumping in an unnatural position? Who jumps like a pogo with their arms by their side.jumping like a pencil as you’re taught at Swimming Lessons as a kid is 100% unnatural.
no one will be able to justify additional time over the 8. I asked earlier. Tumbleweed.And, Delap's injury and substitution.be interesting to see where 8 mins come from.Over turning the Fulham goal.
I meant 9 :)
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
Walk them off Marco. You forfeit a 3-0 defeat but it would make an amazing point and would lead to some conversations at PGMOL that they clearly don’t take seriously.Would love that to happen. The officiating fucking stinks. I hope asap the PGMOL start fast tracking ex non league or ex pros who had their career cut short to start refereeing because any ex pro at any level isn't giving any of these.
1-0 to Middlesbrough beautiful pass from Matt Targett.
That part is true but unfortunately it's not going away. What I'm saying is VAR is irrelevant in both decisions as Rob Jones holds all the power and doesn't have to even go to the monitor, it's not mandate. He can either stick to his on field decision or choose to go to the monitor and still stick to his on field decision...he's too weak and that's the main issue.Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
Irrelevant of going to the monitor or not, it's down to the ref to have some guts and tell his mate on CCTV you're talking bollocks. What is Muniz supposed to do, float and not put his foot down with his back turned because Trev has put his size 12's underneath where Muniz HAS to plant his foot. Everyone at home is saying no foul but the referees are absolutely gutless in this country...especially this tit.VAR is ruining the game.The ref still made the final decision and if he had any balls he would of said no foul.
He didn’t make the decision during play, only when VAR intervened, once he got told to have a look, there was only an outcome. A joke, he didn’t foul, he had possession of the ball, the Chelsea player put himself into the area of play. Without VAR nobody would have raised the issue. They a looking for ways to disallow goals.
Shades of Konsa and Rat
We agree the decision was awful, but it is not irrelevant as VAR intervened. Without VAR no-one would have battered an eyelid.
They'd have been fried if they had.
35,000 odd at Stoke a/c to the BBC.Does it hold that many?
It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
Well, Neto played in the left earlier.It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.Same here. It's bent as a corkscrew now.
The handball for the penalty was as blatant as you’ll get...... other than the short distance between Chalobah and Sessegnon.
Under today's rules, it's a pen.They just make it up as they go tbh. The Fulham 'foul' lol was 65yds away from goal, not directly leading to the goal as other players were involved in both halves of the pitch, but still got disallowed and Pedro handled a few seconds before the 'pen' .
The Pedro hand ball doesn't directly lead to a goal, so it's not hand ball. Even though he effectively passes the ball to another Chelsea player when doing so.
Without the help from the officials, Chelsea really aren't that much.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.I am increasingly the same with other games. I only see MOTD highlights if we don’t lose but rarely watch an actual game.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.I am increasingly the same with other games. I only see MOTD highlights if we don’t lose but rarely watch an actual game.
Plays both but most of his career has been spent on the right. Estevao has taken up the right side since he came in. Suppose with Gittens and Garnacho that's your 4 players sorted for either of the flanks.Well, Neto played in the left earlier.It seems utterly weird that Chelsea think they need another winger in Gnacho with what they already have ... leave aside the PSR / CSR issuesThey do only have Gittens on that side now. Sancho went back, George is going to be sold, Mudryk banned, Madueke sold.
If it wasn't for the Villa, I'd be done with football. Ruined.
I'm fuming and I'm not even a Fulham fan! This has been a disgusting refereeing performance. Biased, incompetent and, who knows, even corrupt.
I'll call it now. Man U will get a helping hand from the officials today.Don't they always, though? :'(
Penalty to Yanited.A story older than time...
Penalty to Yanited. Sounds like it's a very soft one.
Penalty to Yanited.A story older than time...
Grealish looking like a decent signing for Everton
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.
Spurs had no shots at all in the first half against Bournemouth.Like us against Newcastle then. Hopefully tomorrow will be very different.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
2 2 manure
A defensive calamity for Manchester United who fail to deal with a long throw. Loum Tchaouna swings a boot at it, straight at Altay Bayindir but he spills the shot.
Jaidon Anthony, surrounded by red shirts, reacts first and pokes it goalwards. Kobbie Mainoo tries to clear, boots it off Bayindir, and the ball bobbles in.
Scabby penalty for manure again. How many fcuking more times.
Penalty. Anthony switches off for a second and it's a little one two around him from Amad. The shirt pull starts outside the box but continues inside. It's panic more than anything.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
A narrow win against relegation certainties. They'll be dancing in the streets of Home Counties towns tonight.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
Anything that keeps Amorim in his job is good with me.
He's gone before the next game anyway, IMO. Just hoping he isn't stupid enough to resign so the rats get away without paying him off.
thats outside if it was villa.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Hilarious times all round.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Wolves 3-1 down means if only lose by 2 goal to Palace we will not be bottom.
The goalkeeping coach didn't concede in the hour or so he was on, seems a decent effort until right at the end.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Dorking is only 25 mins from us; we often go to the cinema there. Need to try and get to a few local grounds and that is one
thats outside if it was villa.
Wouldn't have even been looked at anyway, but I do remember us not getting anything because although there was pulling back, it apparently didn;t continue into the box as the player is wrapped around Rogers.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Every time I watch JJ I could weep. Why him? Exactly what we need going forward.
Ramsey off injured....
Every time I watch JJ I could weep. Why him? Exactly what we need going forward.
More importantly than all this - Moroccan Chicken Stew?….I've googled it. Sounds amazing.
Fun afternoon in the rain at Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers.
Early red card for the Bath keeper for kicking the ball straight to the Dorking striker and then doing an Emi to stop him scoring.
Goalkeeping coach comes on to replace him, does exactly the same thing and goes off too.
Great times all round.
Dorking is only 25 mins from us; we often go to the cinema there. Need to try and get to a few local grounds and that is one
They're quite a nice story - didn't exist until 2007 and a bloke decided that he didn't want to be a Wimbledon fan anymore so set up a new club.
Took them from the 17th tier to the 5th tier (relegated to ours, the 6th last season).
He's still the owner, chairman and manager today after nearly 700 matches.
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
And they win. 1-0 v Real Sociedad. Donk played the whole game.
Things that were guaranteed today - Brentford losing after their win last week and Man Utd getting a late penalty.
Things that were guaranteed today - Brentford losing after their win last week and Man Utd getting a late penalty.
The Brentford loss doesn't surprise me in the slightest,
Have man united won the league? What’s with their obsession on Saturday night football?
Dendocker scores for Oviedo
And they win. 1-0 v Real Sociedad. Donk played the whole game.
The Chelsea penalty had a Chelsea handball in it which was ignored, then a Fulham and all which was given. It’s just not subtle any more.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Except for when it's Morgan Rogers shirt being tugged by a Forest player in the box.
Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Wasn't it his arm that was being pulled back not his shirt?Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Except for when it's Morgan Rogers shirt being tugged by a Forest player in the box.
Once again VAR proving to the world just how clueless they are. The referee should be ashamed of his oart in that. For him to announce on the tannoy "careless challenge" is laughable. The Fulham player wasn't making a challenge. The Chelsea player was. He had the chance to watch it on the screen and still managed to get it completely arse about face.Just watching it on MOTD now. Highly dubious decision to rule out Fulham's goal as well.
That one was the biggest issue for me. Ridiculous decision.
Just watched the Manure highlights on motd. Female pundit said definitely a penalty because the shirt pull continued into the penalty area. Both her and the referee should look at the laws of the game. The initial shirt pull and foul started outside the box so should be a free kick. It’s like saying a player was fouled outside the area initially but, as he actually fell in the penalty area, a penalty should be awarded!!
No, they're spot on, the rule for shirt pulling is that it's a penalty if it carries on into the box.
Regarding the Chel v Ful game yesterday.
🚨 Michael Salisbury replaced by John Brooks as VAR for #LFC v #AFC. It follows PGMOL acknowledging Salisbury made an error in disallowing Fulham's goal at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Salisbury’s intervention was not in line with the PGMOL’s high bar for VAR intervention.
Also understand Howard Webb contacted Fulham directly yesterday.
The Auld Firm was the perfect warm up for this evening. Devoid of any quality or incidents of note.
The Auld Firm was the perfect warm up for this evening. Devoid of any quality or incidents of note.
It was so dull, the Rangers fans were singing they were only ankle deep in Fenian blood.
Lucas Paqueta is furious as Tomas Soucek gets in his way in the centre of the park and West Ham briefly lose the ball.
The Brazilian looks to be on a different wavelength to most of his team-mates.
Regarding the Chel v Ful game yesterday.
🚨 Michael Salisbury replaced by John Brooks as VAR for #LFC v #AFC. It follows PGMOL acknowledging Salisbury made an error in disallowing Fulham's goal at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Salisbury’s intervention was not in line with the PGMOL’s high bar for VAR intervention.
Also understand Howard Webb contacted Fulham directly yesterday.
Empty gestures that don't change a thing.
brighton losing keeps us out the bottom 3
Pretty much all the football I have seen so far this season, in the PL and the Championship, has been slow, dull and predictable.
56-year-old James Milner sends Villa into the relegation zone.
19th
19th
Yes. And probably 8th if we win later.
Having seen Kerkez a couple of times now he looks bang averagewho Wirtz , yeah he does .
Even Drurys struggling to get excited about this oneHe's normally the first one up for a game of sticky biscuit when it comes to anything Anfield. What a c**t.
Not watching the game but I can only assume Drury has blown his load multiple times across your screens in the first 45 minutes.
Liverpool look really unimpressive so far this season.
definitely KerkezHaving seen Kerkez a couple of times now he looks bang averagewho Wirtz , yeah he does .
Liverpool look really unimpressive so far this season.
Slob suffering from an embarrassment of riches.
For God’s sake, just call this boring match a 0-0 draw and get the mighty Villa on!!
You knew that was going in when Drury said Arsenal hadn't conceded a goal yet.Has he climaxed yet?
You knew that was going in when Drury said Arsenal hadn't conceded a goal yet.Has he finished climaxeding yet?
I reckon the fat Greek lad is going to fire Nuno after this result.Mourinho incoming
Gyokores looks like a dud for the Arse
Pretty much all the football I have seen so far this season, in the PL and the Championship, has been slow, dull and predictable.
Sesko looks worse.Gyokores looks like a dud for the Arse
He does, doesn't he? Looked crap every time I've seen him.
Kazakhstan vs Wales at 3pm on BBC One
Wasn;t sure where to place this, but trckles might be harder to come by?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q4l0d171o
Wales 1-0 up against Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan Are no mugs, I can see them getting back into it. It’s played on an artificial surface which I think shouldn’t be allowed at international level.
There's no internationals in January for that reason. There used to be no European matches either but that's changed.It’s still very different to play on because the ball bounces differently.
Having said which, this isn't Boundary Park or Kenilworth Road in the 80s, artificial turf is decent stuff now as far as I'm aware
Wales 1-0 up against Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan Are no mugs, I can see them getting back into it. It’s played on an artificial surface which I think shouldn’t be allowed at international level.
Isn't that a bit unrealistic? What if you're, I dunno, Faroe Islands and you have a home fixture in January?
Plastic pitches are completely different to what they were like in the eighties. It would be unreasonable to expect all the snow for six months a year/no rain for eleven months a year countries to have grass pitches, and most of the FAs aren't exactly swimming in cash. Artificial surfaces are much cheaper/easier to maintain. They should be allowed in the Premiership, IMO.
New Belgium captain Tielemans scores their second in Liechtenstein.
why dont cash do that for us
why dont cash do that for us
Because Unai doesn’t let him cross the halfway line.
Matty’s goal. Quite nice I have to say.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1963700838263558518?s=46
Matty’s goal. Quite nice I have to say.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1963700838263558518?s=46
And just look at his face!!!
Hon the Alba, I'm bored of watching Denmark in major tournaments.So am I. The coverage is hysterical in more way than one.
Greece already two up. They'll win this group, IMO. Have got some real talent.
McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.
Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
Surely Scotland can find a better player than Che Adams? I don't think think I've ever seen him have a good game.
Apologies for missing out the second J. Autocorrect changed it to something bizarre and I got distracted.McGinn was lucky he wasn't seriously injured from Hojberg's Ben Mee-esque scissor tackle.
Højbjerg has always been a dirty twat.
I hope we don't sign him, imagine the misspellings of his name there'd be on here.
Scotland on top but if only Robertson could cross a ball....
Right decision, the slight push probably saved him.
Scotland keeper isn't the best.
Scotland keeper isn't the best.
And it's an amazing double save from Gunn (even if it was offside).
Morocco the latest team to qualify, joining Paraguay, Uruguay and Colombia who did so last night.
I wish the whole of 2030 World Cup was in South America, that would have been ace. Never mind.
The first three games are being hosted in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay, the rest of the tournament is being co-hosted by Spain, Portugal and Morocco.
Then we have 2034 in Saudi Arabia to look forward to...
The first three games are being hosted in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay, the rest of the tournament is being co-hosted by Spain, Portugal and Morocco.
Then we have 2034 in Saudi Arabia to look forward to...
If they really want to pay tribute to the 1930 edition everyone should get a great massive steamer across the ocean. I propose the FIFA delegation go in a copy of the Titanic.
Right.
Almost as if a group of stakeholders in Middle Eastern airlines with undue influence within the game are helping to make these decisions in their own interest.
(Obviously not!)
Truro with a near 900 mile round trip to Carlisle today.
I’m at Doncaster v Bradford today. Top of the table clash. It’s just so nice to be relaxed at a game where I have no heart palpitations either way.
Why do I have a rational displeasure of seeing Dan Burn in an England shirt?I'm trying to think of a worse England player in the last 30 years and I'm struggling even though there is a lot of competition.
Why do I have an irrational rational displeasure of seeing Dan Burn in an England shirt?
I know we welcomed the international break due to our circumstances but fuck me it still drags. The media trying to hype up the Women's PL to nonsensical levels but we still have the Blast QF later I suppose.Talksport not doing a very good job on me, trying to hype the WSL. As soon as they start talking about that, there’s a very quick change of channel. No interest it it whatsoever and would prefer to go to a non league match.
No Villa in England's starting 11 so that's not worth bothering with either.
Who let the dreaded drummer boy in. >:(
England turned into us with slowing down the ball, not spotting the runs and playing back so Andorra get back to cover.Was just about to say the same. It might be the new grass after all.
Why the empty seats?They give us a game after 20 years and it’s mighty Andorra, so no surprise.
Brilliant goalAbsolutely, lovely measured header pick the corner.
Not getting the Anderson wankfest either. It’s Andorra for pity’s sake.
Who were the 11 villa players given their legacy caps before the game ?
Burn controlling things and picking out passes like prime Pirlo.
Why the empty seats?
Even though it wouldn't have counted, that was shocking from Eze.Against us his shooting was prime Messi.
Only just switched on so don't know how accurate it is, but the Danish commentators slaughtering the entire back 4 four for their use of the ball.Burn controlling things and picking out passes like prime Pirlo.
So much of modern football seems to end up with your worst technical player having the most of the ball...step forward Dan Burns.
Why are they televising it in Denmark?TV2 have streaming rights to all the qualifiers.
God this is boring.
Not sure why Konsa is coming on for.
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Have Ireland got a player who will shoot from anywhere to piss them off like Matty Cash?
Whenever Ireland play I just picture Liam from the Villa Podcast being there, raging.
Have Ireland got a player who will shoot from anywhere to piss them off like Matty Cash?
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
Good old Wilkesy. I wonder what happened to him.
So Albert Wilkes still remains the last Villa player to score for England at VP, a record set in 1902.But anyone can score against Scotland, scoring against Andorra is a different kettle of fish.
Another goal for Matty Cash.
Norn Iron level in Germany.
I was surprised Türkiye beat Georgia.
Belarus national side and club sides in Europe have to play home games in a neutral country and behind closed doors.Thanks. Hungary is hardly neutral as Viktor Orban licks Putin’s balls at every opportunity.
Israel beating Italy despite having 0 shots. Italy really are shit these days.
Great cross from McGinn which led to Scotland's goal.
I doubt Italy have ever been involved in a competitive game, which ended 4-5.They've probably gone through qualifying campaigns with lower scores.
Penalty to Armenia.
Penalty to Armenia.
Very harsh/corrupt call that one. If Collins had ducks they would drown!
I thought they’d already played both games.
Who’s Anderson? I’ve not heard of him
Who’s Anderson? I’ve not heard of him
England XI: Pickford, James, Rice, Konsa, Guehi, Gordon, Kane, Rogers, Livramento, Madueke, Anderson.Ollie should have started.
England XI: Pickford, James, Rice, Konsa, Guehi, Gordon, Kane, Rogers, Livramento, Madueke, Anderson.Ollie should have started.
3-1 to Armenia, it's been an absolute shocker. Would have been more if it wasn't for Kelleher.
I've only watched from the 68th minute but fuck me Ireland are fucking atrocious.
Ned playing for Serbia too!
It’s that good ref’ can’t remember his name
Ha! He sure does.It’s that good ref’ can’t remember his name
Leandro Trossard.
I've only watched from the 68th minute but fuck me Ireland are fucking atrocious.
The entire back line too afraid to quickly pop the ball into Anderson or Rogers. Always sideways.And when they do it they create their best chance
Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.He keeps calling for it in between the lines in space but Konsa and Guehi shit their pants.
His bird is alright and you know as well as I do she's with him because of his hair....and face.Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
He seriously does need to reconsider his look. And why doesn't Kane tell him to go play on the wing?
Gordon's hairdo is scandalous.
He seriously does need to reconsider his look.
The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.That worked.😂
If you can try the same at anout 3.15pm on Saturday 😉The game is passing by Rogers. Not getting much of the ball.That worked.😂
Ned playing for Serbia too!
We’ll see if he’s one to keep or another to help us through the Labyrinth of PSR rules.
Thought it was going to be disallowed for offside so wasn't cheering it.
Villa players keep on scoring when not playing for Villa.Yep there's always a downside to things if you look hard enough 🙄
I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
Ah yeah - just went back through my browser history - I read "Madueke Doubles England.." as "Madueke Double"..I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
😁Ah yeah - just went back through my browser history - I read "Madueke Doubles England.." as "Madueke Double"..I thought at half time it was a Madueke brace?First goal was a Kane header from a Rice corner.
Glad to see Ezri score
Stay tuned for more great insights
Good to see young Henderson get a few minutes.
Norway add a tenth.
Think cause he landed on the ball it looked a bit odd
I wonder who will take it.
Five live gushing about the performance and listing the players that weren't available tonight that will come back into the side, which is precisely where England have gone wrong before.
Five live gushing about the performance and listing the players that weren't available tonight that will come back into the side, which is precisely where England have gone wrong before.
Keane just called Rogers "like Gazza in his prime".Missed the game but wow! Thats high praise indeed.
I noticed that Edin Dzeko scored for Bosnia tonight, he’s been around for ages and I didn’t realise he was still playing international football.
I noticed that Edin Dzeko scored for Bosnia tonight, he’s been around for ages and I didn’t realise he was still playing international football.
I remember hearing a ridiculous stat about him the other week, which I now can't remember.
But it's something like the top scorers in world football for the last twenty years is Ronaldo / Messi / Dzeko / a massive gap / all other players.
It's not that, but there is a stat of that ilk which is very impressive.
Just finished watching the England game.
Blimey that was a fun watch.
Thoroughly enjoyed it and have to say well played to the team.
Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
(Read the next post and it will save you finger skin.) As Dave said. Qualifying has mostly been a walk in the park, we will judge Tuchel in a tournament QFs or semi when England are one down.Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
(Read the next post and it will save you finger skin.) As Dave said. Qualifying has mostly been a walk in the park, we will judge Tuchel in a tournament QFs or semi when England are one down.Agree, way better than the turgid football under Southgate - that was a mightily impressive display under Tuchel. At last we played on the front foot. Konsa and Guehi were really solid at the back.
It was a pretty typical Southgate-era qualification performance.
Similar to beating North Macedonia and Montenegro by seven, Albania by five, Iceland, Kosovo and Hungary by four...
Serbia were the next best team to England in the group and seen as a potential banana skin. They’re far better opposition than North Macedonia or any of the countries listed as the FIFA rankings show.
Yup. Losing to Senegal wasn't a sign that Tuchel was terrible, thrashing Serbia isn't a sign that he's brilliant. Losing to Hungary wasn't a sign that Southgate was terrible, thrashing Ukraine wasn't a sign that he was brilliant.
Now that England have basically qualified (like they always do now), there's very little that Tuchel can do to show anything one way or the other until the World Cup starts.
But if I were a betting man, my money would be firmly on "getting through the group comfortably before going out to the first team England play that is better than them", like it has been since since 2018.
Which in itself is still an improvement on the previous decade, which was "getting knocked at some point early on by a team not as good as them".
[/b]Yup. Losing to Senegal wasn't a sign that Tuchel was terrible, thrashing Serbia isn't a sign that he's brilliant. Losing to Hungary wasn't a sign that Southgate was terrible, thrashing Ukraine wasn't a sign that he was brilliant.
Now that England have basically qualified (like they always do now), there's very little that Tuchel can do to show anything one way or the other until the World Cup starts.
But if I were a betting man, my money would be firmly on "getting through the group comfortably before going out to the first team England play that is better than them", like it has been since since 2018.
Which in itself is still an improvement on the previous decade, which was "getting knocked at some point early on by a team not as good as them".
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Livramento didn't do too badly there last night (albeit it wasn't a Yamal he was up against). He has also played there regularly for his club so it is not like he is only playing there for his country.
I still think they could do more with Qualifying football to make it more interesting . They should look at what they have done with the Champs league and maybe have a similar format .
I still think they could do more with Qualifying football to make it more interesting . They should look at what they have done with the Champs league and maybe have a similar format .
Yeah a Conmebol style all in one table would be fab.
Nations League is fine but should be at the end of qualifying, and just have the best 8-12 teams from qualifying enter in a knockout format.
Id agree, tournament football is where Tuchel will be ultimately assessed not the qualifiers. A lot can change in 9 months with player injuries and form. The England talent pool seems overloaded in the attacking midfield areas. Less so at the back and in midfield. I think stronger England squads will have gone to tournaments (Euro 2021). How will Kane cope in those US temps next June?
I reckon midfield has gone from a problem position to fairly well-stocked. The emergence of Anderson and Wharton means that one of those, alongside Rice means it's not the problem that it once was. It's not France or Portugal, but at least it's upper-end of the Premier League good.
Right-back isn't as strong as other areas in the team, but whether it ends up being Livramento, James or Alexander-Arnold there aren't too many countries with an obviously better one.
Left-back is still very iffy. There are a good five or six teams with better centre-back pairings than England have and at least a dozen with a better goalkeeper. And the last thirty years suggests that teams tend not to win tournaments if they don't have a really good defence and goalkeeper.
Norway eleven.
I think the "Champions League style" set up VILLA MOLE suggested would give those teams a mixture of games against teams at their own level while still offering them the chance to play the bigger teams (and, crucially, still get money from hosting said opponents).
Has Pickford ever let England down in tournament football? Tends to lose the head a bit and whack the ball down the pitch. But he's done well really considering the pressure on him and decent on penos.
I think the "Champions League style" set up VILLA MOLE suggested would give those teams a mixture of games against teams at their own level while still offering them the chance to play the bigger teams (and, crucially, still get money from hosting said opponents).
The money thing is important, but I think the objection to doing that sort of format is that the matches you'd play aren't then massively different to tournament qualification.
There's already plenty of opportunity to play eight-to-ten matches where you're divided into a group ranked by rough ability from best to worst, so why do the same thing again.
Philogene with 2 for Ipswich.
Hat-trick for Jaden.
Hat-trick for Jaden.
Good one too.
Fantastic performance by Jaden. Really chuffed for him.
What about Louie Barry?
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Been very Villarey in the early Championship games. Goals for Dobbin, Ayew and Targett, Aaron Ramsey sent off.
That should have been a goal. A lot of games are so dull now and when we do get goals VAR scrub them out.
Been very Villarey in the early Championship games. Goals for Dobbin, Ayew and Targett, Aaron Ramsey sent off.
Brentford 1 up. You know this ending 2-1 chelsea
Brentford 1 up. You know this ending 2-1 chelsea
Fucking knew it. What a shit weekend spurs and chelsea winning
You just know Liverpool are still going to win this game, probably between the 85th min and end of injury time.
Was it a dodgy handball?About as clear cut as you can get.
Dopy sod. Was he at the Sty on loan previously?He was.
Not convincing today Liverpool, in fact they haven't been in any of their 4 matches, plus the Community Shield.
Is proximity not a thing in the handball assessment? It was whacked at him from close range, no?
Is proximity not a thing in the handball assessment? It was whacked at him from close range, no?
silva always gets a way with bookings
silva always gets a way with bookings
Is he on his eighth and final warning?
suppose I want the 115 crew to win as it keeps us with manure to fight to stay up.
Same here but it does make me feel dirty.
ITS BRYAN MBUEMO!!!
Great header by Foden. He still does the gun celebration thing. What a complete bell end he is, not an ounce of intelligence.
8 PL games he’s won. Four against newly promoted sides.And the token gesture we always give them.
8 PL games he’s won. Four against newly promoted sides.And the token gesture we always give them.
I think Emery will be there by the international break.
I think Emery will be there by the international break.
Does anyone know how tall is Donnarumma? If only Drury had mentioned his height….
I didnt realise the chumps league started today . thought it was league cup week.
Spurs gifted the lead by the keeper who cuts out a cross by pulling it in and then pushing it out into the net.
A team that sounds like they're owned by LeeB has come from two down to lead at Benfica.Without checking I guess Qarabag?
Millwall level at Palace.
S.V.Caravan.A team that sounds like they're owned by LeeB has come from two down to lead at Benfica.Without checking I guess Qarabag?
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
That’s what I said earlier too. I still have faith things will get better and this is a phase or moment in time. But at this moment contrasting to what other fans are enjoying, it’s all a bit poop.
Simeone completely lost it with the fans then.Yes but it’s Liverpool fans, anyone can lose it with them.
Watching Bayern v Chelsea and finding it hard to believe we beat both of these last season. The famous Duran goal that sunk Bayern and two late goals from Asensio that turned it around when we were 0-1 down to Chelsea. Both of those players are no longer with us and we're looking at the likes of Guessand and Malen instead. It's kind of indicative of our demise so far this season and it's pretty depressing. I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Villa but I'm having some dark moments lately.
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
I made a complaint to the BBC about it and got a fluff answer back. I've responded and asked for more detail about decisions.
This was their intial response:
"We note your concerns about the level of coverage being devoted to Manchester United.
Choosing the stories to include in our football pages, the order in which they appear and the space devoted to them are subjective matters and we know not every reader will feel we get it right every time.
Factors such as whether it is a breaking story and needs immediate coverage, how unusual the story is or how much national interest there is in a particular match will all play a part in deciding the level of coverage.
Each story is chosen on its own merit and we can assure you that we would never display bias towards a particular club. Essentially this is a judgement call rather than an exact science, but the team at the BBC Sport website appreciate the feedback when readers feel a particular team may be receiving too much attention."
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
Is Ramsey injured? not even on the Newcastle bench.Yeah, ankle/foot worryingly. Out till 18/10
Club Brugge pishing all over Monaco. 3-0 at half time with 17 overall chances, 9 on target.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
The only thing I'd offer on this is that it might be as innocent as they're just fucking lazy so stories about the clubs in the same city as MediaCity are just easier because a lot of the junior staff are locals who follow them.
Quite. I actually just laughed when I read it. I've now asked for some numbers, like how many stories have been about them and how many about other clubs, specifically Palace, Forest, Newcastle and us as teams that are in Europe. But also others that aren't, like Man U.
It's a joke and bare faced lie.
To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.This bbc obsession with Manure is ridiculous. They’re conducting a series of football interviews. First up. Ratface.
Indeed it is. Their football page looks more and more like a Man Utd magazine each day. And what's with their reinvention of Wayne Rooney as some kind of footballing correspondent?
I made a complaint to the BBC about it and got a fluff answer back. I've responded and asked for more detail about decisions.
This was their intial response:
"We note your concerns about the level of coverage being devoted to Manchester United.
Choosing the stories to include in our football pages, the order in which they appear and the space devoted to them are subjective matters and we know not every reader will feel we get it right every time.
Factors such as whether it is a breaking story and needs immediate coverage, how unusual the story is or how much national interest there is in a particular match will all play a part in deciding the level of coverage.
Each story is chosen on its own merit and we can assure you that we would never display bias towards a particular club. Essentially this is a judgement call rather than an exact science, but the team at the BBC Sport website appreciate the feedback when readers feel a particular team may be receiving too much attention."
“Never display bias” the bare faced cheek of them. There’s clear bias where ManU are concerned. It’s so blatant I can barely watch any football show on the BBC lately.
Rashford has been very poor to date, then has struck a very fine header.It was a free header TBF.
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Newcastle ain’t Chelsea.Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Totally agree. When Chelski won it the 1st time, was horrible listening to them sing “ we know what we are…champions of Europe” all the following season.
I thought he retired.To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
His contract wasn't renewed, and he wasn't best pleased. https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5/
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.You kind of knew that would happen.
I thought he retired.To be far the bias went down a peg when Alan Green retired.
He was a rapid Liverpool fan.
His contract wasn't renewed, and he wasn't best pleased. https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5/
I can remember his radio commentary from about 1979.
He was so red. Mainly Liverpool but went a bit ManU at times. His bias was ridiculous.
I don't hate Newcastle, but certainly not cheering them on amd pleased Rashford has scores a few.Same here. I want Grimsby and Accrington to win every European game.
Only non-Villa English teams I can remember hoping would do well in Europe were Middlesbrough and Fulham.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
There are haves and have nots, and Newcastle are playing without a striker.
You make a good point, though; they come out of the hutch firing on all cylinders, and it works sometimes.
Newcastle ain’t Chelsea.Get in there rash!Why do you want him to score against a decent club like Newcastle? (Oil money apart - which they can’t spend - bit like our owners can’t spend)
Dear God in heaven.
1. It's part of being a football fan that you never want other English teams to do well in Europe.
2. They're competing with us in the same mini league in English football, why would you want them to do well?
3. Their fans.
4. Their owners are absolute fucking murdering scum.
Apart from that, haway the lads.
Totally agree. When Chelski won it the 1st time, was horrible listening to them sing “ we know what we are…champions of Europe” all the following season.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.
There are haves and have nots, and Newcastle are playing without a striker.
You make a good point, though; they come out of the hutch firing on all cylinders, and it works sometimes.
They had a £70mil on the bench. Their choice not to play a striker, or get another backup in to replace Wilson.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
Think he was out.
Didn't help them that Tonali and Joelinton had stinkers. Bruno Guimaraes was their only CM that played well.
That is true.
Gordon comes out on fire, though, and it has worked for them a few times.
The Isak issue has clearly had an effect, just as our transfer window has had an effect on us.
^^ They bought Wissa as well.
Think he was out.
Newcastle came out like a runaway train both haves and ran out of steam after 10 minutes each time.You kind of knew that would happen.
Bit naive.
Illing Jr can't get in the Albion team.Probabaly why they are losing 2-0.
Long throws are big these days.A lot of them are foul throws.
Illing Jr can't get in the Albion team.
My cousins son is a huge Boggies fan and is doing his sports degree there. He has been the boiler and Boggy bird mascot on occasions. He went against his Dad and supported them over Villa, deep down he knows he made a huge error.
Is that a correct link as it is a quiz for naming Chelsea/Manu players from the 2008 final.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
agreed - I was almost cringing at the 'get Jack back' talk - but he's not as finished I thought.Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
Apparently on less wages and would’ve generated some much needed hope. I’d have been dead against it mind, but then I hadn’t expected it to start like this…
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
Beto would probably be the best player on our pitch had we signed him :DJack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
He’d have been the best player on our pitch if we signed him.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.if we'd have done our jiggery-pokery stuff at the start of the transfer window then I think he'd be at Villa over Sancho.
probbaly bottom at the mo.
probbaly bottom at the mo.
Nope. Leeds equalise.
Watching the Wolves game, they really are absolute turboshite.
Harsh?
it was that Alan Smith who put doubt in my head 😂Harsh?
Not at all. He’s on a yellow. He puts his arm across the forward and pulls him over. That’s a yellow every time.
Harsh?
Not at all. He’s on a yellow. He puts his arm across the forward and pulls him over. That’s a yellow every time. Or in his case a second one. And then he shakes his head all the way to the tunnel. Such an injustice. Wanker
I think it is harsh if the “higher threshold” for a 2nd yellow became an actual thing.
Jack is still such a fine footballer.
Best player on pitch for me
Brentford turned into their kit
Second Fulham goal is v good move and finish
Really good game this. Both look infinitely better than us currently.
Haalands goal demonstrating everything that was missing from our forward play today. It's enough to make me weep.
Haalands goal demonstrating everything that was missing from our forward play today. It's enough to make me weep.
I found myself thinking we could do with a lot of what Doku was providing, as well.
it was like watching a different sport. The ball moving around quickly.
Just how thick are football players these days. Already having been booked, Etikike then takes off his shirt after scoring and, gets sent off!!
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Something about a shirt?
Anyone know how Ekiteke got on tonight?
Sent off apparently, not sure what for though?
Something about a shirt?
Tried to give his shirt to a kid suffering from cancer, and the heartless ref sent him off.
Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
maybe, but he looks like a great acquisition.Forest paid £10m for Igor Jesus, and he looks like a steal. There are better deals out there than we've managed recently.
But he has come over as part of the obviously dodgy relationship that Forest have with Botafogo.
Forest playing like we used to. Brazilian fella in centre mid looks decent.He's been subbed 😁
Well done Ange.Yes, well done Ange.
Tonight’s games… zzzzzz
Genk missed a penalty in their match against Rangers.
Genk take the lead against Rangers.Bosh
Silver lining from tonight, Genk 2-0 up.
Oviedo score their second goal of the season to lead Barca 1-0 at the break.
Only three 2000 KO matches have had goals yet.
Iling-Junior starting for Sandwell.
It was indeed.Iling-Junior starting for Sandwell.
And scoring. Very well taken goal.
They hate each other.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
Anyone could score for Bayern Munich.Go on, Smirker and Sexual Ealing, I've left you a tap-in, here.
Are Cumsock going to win?
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
I thought they said he needed 2 tonight, I must have misheard.
Harry Kane has scored for Bayern, I heard during the week that if he gets another he’ll be the quickest to 100 goals for a team in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
That was the one wasn't it, beats haaland by one match.
I thought they said he needed 2 tonight, I must have misheard.
He has two.
Baggies snatch a point from the jaws of a win.
For some reason (possibly because he played for Spurs) not overly enamoured with him previously, now kind of pleased for him that his move to Bayern's working out.Sorry Lizz, Bayern are utter c words and can never wish anyone well playing for them.
Baggies snatch a point from the jaws of a win.
Oh no! That’s a shame. And I always like to see all the midlands teams do well as well.
How very dare you, sir. I’ve never been so insulted in my life.Really? What about that day in 2013 when CoopersInjury agreed 100% with your post?
:DHow very dare you, sir. I’ve never been so insulted in my life.Really? What about that day in 2013 when CoopersInjury agreed 100% with your post?
Thiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
I quite like that Colombian bloke at FenerbacheThiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
There are no good strikers that we could possibly get.
Thiago again. How do Brentford keep on finding strikers? Their recruitment in that area is absolutely amazing. Maybe we should take a look at their method of identifying players.
There are no good strikers that we could possibly get.
Yes Brentford get Thiago who was out injured most of last season, Forest get Igor Jesus and Brighton regularly pick up good players. Our recruitment pales in comparison really.
Rat-face missed a penalty.
Rat-face missed a penalty.
Pretty obvious red card not given, too. Shame.
Premier League Match Centre on X: "The referee’s call of penalty was checked and confirmed by VAR – with Collins deemed to pulled Mbeumo back. VAR also checked the referee’s call of yellow card to Collins - and deemed that Mbeumo wasn’t in control of the ball."
This is the first time Coventry will have started a season with seven games without defeat since their League One campaign in 2019.
It's their best run in the top two divisions since the Premier League season of 1993-94.
Frank Lampard really has got them ticking hasn't he?
All that money and your fucking shit sing Cov fans 😊And so say Brentford fans. :D
He could clearly have got a shot off. Mad decision.
He could clearly have got a shot off. Mad decision.Stop it. It's little morsels other clubs get against that lot that we should savour.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
great goal well done brentford
or IraolaNext man into Old Trafford?Glasner
Fergie time not worked this time for ManU.And it was glorious to behold. Ratface missing a pen and a blatant red card going against them as well. If Carlsberg made football matches......
I've actually enjoyed a lot of late goals today. That never happens.
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been usI’d give anything to play half as well as Palace do……instead of the Tuesday night walking football shite we play.
I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Was listening to Andy Goldstein moaning about Chelsea on radio and their fan caller said 'Meresca has go to go and get Emery in, he deserves a chance at a big club". A few minutes later a manu fan 'Amorim not goof enough another mistake job is too big for him" Who do want? "It has to be Emery, he proved at.... (wait for it)... at Arsenal he can handle big clubs".or IraolaNext man into Old Trafford?Glasner
*Pet Shop Boys with (Johnny Marr guesting)I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Not just in London. In Croydon
Music: The Smiths - This Must Be The Place I've Waited Years To Leave
Wow...Adama Traore's last Premier League goal was for...us...
*Pet Shop Boys with (Johnny Marr guesting)I must admit,I'm a little bit green with envy about Palace. Could have been us, but they will always be
They could follow up the FA Cup with the League this season and the Champions League the season after, but they will still be in London.
Not just in London. In Croydon
Music: The Smiths - This Must Be The Place I've Waited Years To Leave
Wolves 1-0 up at Spurs. S Bueno?I am missing Daniel's face they always zoomed in on whenever the calamity befell the chosen people.
Si, es bueno.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
hope not . he is a bloody good manager.
Next man into Old Trafford?Glasner
hope not . he is a bloody good manager.
He is. Just watched the Palace highlights from yesterday, they were superb. Liverpool meanwhile were defensively all over the place.
Whew. Means we won't be the only team without a league win come Monday.That comment has aged well!
Whew. Means we won't be the only team without a league win come Monday.That comment has aged well!
How in the name of Christ has that been overturned?
West Ham can only do one thing at a time...no one told them that they will have to deal with the ball coming back in again.
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?I think it means thst Everton's chances were relatively difficult. Can only remember the goal which wasn't easy and a shot from N'Diaye which was more of a backpass from distance.
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I do wonder why they botherI'm sure as part of a suite of stats it's useful to professional coaches and scouts it's of some value, but to Joe public?
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?
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Thought Grealish was poor, very ineffective.
When analysing the performance of teams in one particular match, agreed. When used over a much larger quantity of matches as one of a number of figures you could utilise to assess the quality of strikers, it seems a perfectly reasonable tool.
All stats are a load of old bollocks
the eye test and score are the only things that matter
I don’t really understand this xG business. How does this equate to West Ham expecting to score more than Everton?
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It’s absolute nonsense…eyes can tell you who is on top etc. Football is not an exact science do expected tells you it means nothing. Football is on grass not spreadsheets
On the game - Diouf won’t be slumming it at pointless club West Ham for long-looks a player
Thought Grealish was poor, very ineffective.
Marseille 2 up against Ajax after 12 minutes.That lad Paixao has been watching McGinn shoot.
And 3-0 to Atletico.
Ffs. All the wankers winning tonight.
Tottenham and Liverpool aren't. Obviously the latter means Galatasaray are if you hate them more then the Redscouse.I'll take Galatasaray winning over the self entitled wankers from Anfield.
Didn't even know that what were playing until I looked up who Wednesday were playing.And 3-0 to Atletico.
Ffs. All the wankers winning tonight.
Not so, Sheffield Wednesday have equalised.
Birmingham 1-1 Sheff Wed
Dissention!
Chris Davies makes three changes, with Seung-Ho Paik, Marc Leonard and Lewis Koumas coming on, but the withdrawal of Tommy Doyle and Patrick Roberts is greeted with boos from the home fans, on a 28-match unbeaten run at St Andrew's, while Bright Osayi-Samuel is also withdrawn.
Spurs now 2-0 down?
Blose equalise in the 10th of 8 added minutes.Thats about the third time they've done that this season. Jammy tramps.
2-2 Spurs equalise
I've noticed they always have an inordinate amount of time added onBlose equalise in the 10th of 8 added minutes.Thats about the third time they've done that this season. Jammy tramps.
Very close offside call going to Spurs. Without VAR there would have been no question of offside with this.2-2 Spurs equalise
Seemed to take an age giving it, I haven’t got the commentary on, I’m presuming it was for a possible handball rather than offside?
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Watched the Chelsea Benfica game in a pub in the smoke. Full of the usual self entitled Chelsea tossers moaning. I thought Barrenechea was decent.
Watched the Chelsea Benfica game in a pub in the smoke. Full of the usual self entitled Chelsea tossers moaning. I thought Barrenechea was decent.
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Shouldn't have been booked. He didn't simulate, he just fell over Martínez.
Is it about time players got booked for simulation?
Like Josh King?!
Shouldn't have been booked. He didn't simulate, he just fell over Martínez.
He simulated falling over Martinez
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spurs have not been good tonight. but it’s the mark of a great side that *even* when you don’t play well, you can still grind out a point against a tiny Narnian fishing village
Barcelona 1 up at home to PSG.Rashford assist. He loves playing them lot.
Barcelona 1 up at home to PSG.Rashford assist. He loves playing them lot.
Barcelona’s defensive positioning for the winner was shocking
Rangers losing.Queens Park?
Rangers losing.
Rangers losing.
To be fair this could have been posted any time in the last two months.
Devasted that Celtic lost and Rangers are losing. Very devasted indeed.
Would be nice to see Forest crash in Europe. They're no Palace, but I think I'd be less confident against them in Europe than pretty much anyone else in it.Its his first season, they aren't winning shit, we are!
Would be nice to see Forest crash in Europe. They're no Palace, but I think I'd be less confident against them in Europe than pretty much anyone else in it.Its his first season, they aren't winning shit, we are!
Tough one for them. Form goes out the window in an East Midtjyllands Derby.
Blose losing to Wrexham 0-1. I see that idiot Tom Wagner was interviewed before the game with his silly woollen hat. Where are these 60,000 fans coming from?
He’s in with da away fans.
Liverpool getting done in added time is still funny though.
Liverpool getting done in added time is still funny though.
Watching the energy, pace, and abilities of these two teams, I feel like we are miles off from their level.
Jambos get a late winner to go five points clear, though Celtic play tomorrow.
Watching the energy, pace, and abilities of these two teams, I feel like we are miles off from their level.
Jaden has just scored an absolute scorchio
clearly found his level - again - good for him.
Grealish just saying he ran to where his mum and dad were sitting. Presumably he was donned in his Everton shirt.
Clinton Morrison
Former Premier League striker on BBC Radio 5 Live at St. James' Park
Newcastle were far too strong in the second half. Good managers get a good response from half-time talks.
Forest, it was always going to be hard but I don't think they need to be rash by getting rid of Ange. I think he needs more time on the training ground.
Grealish just saying he ran to where his mum and dad were sitting. Presumably he was donned in his Everton shirt.
Wouldn't Jack have been booked if he had tool his Everton shirt off?
I like this from Swansea yesterday
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Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Second smallest I believe, after Iceland in 2018.
But it's absolutely the reason why the tedious bit of international football ("oh no, England only won 2-0 against Armenia and it wasn't the most exciting game I've ever watched, scrap the lot of it") is still worth it.
Cape Verde having their moment and going to the World Cup (Eswatini notwithstanding) is more important in the grand scheme of things than...pretty much all of it.
Finished 3-3
Beat Eswatini (bottom without a win) on Monday though and Cape Verde are there.
Just heard a really good interview on 5 Live with Roberto Lopez, full back who plays for Shamrock Rovers and also Cape Verde. He explained what it means to play for a country of half a million people and how they came across him ( he received a call up in Portuguese and dismissed it as spam). If they qualify they’ll be the smallest team ever to do so.
Second smallest I believe, after Iceland in 2018.
But it's absolutely the reason why the tedious bit of international football ("oh no, England only won 2-0 against Armenia and it wasn't the most exciting game I've ever watched, scrap the lot of it") is still worth it.
Cape Verde having their moment and going to the World Cup (Eswatini notwithstanding) is more important in the grand scheme of things than...pretty much all of it.
Sorry Dave, I should have specified they’d be the smallest by land mass. Rory Smith said about 4000 square km
Rogers, Watkins and Konsa all starting
She will not stop bloody ringing me. ☹️
Villa 2 0 Wales....
Great stuff. Looked offside?
Great stuff. Looked offside?
On I though by an inch, the Wales player was just playing him on.
England finally look like a team.
Wales look abysmal, possession in our half and it ends with an England freekick in theirs.we have them on toast on both flanks...and through the middle with Rogers lol...
Take him off TuchelYes. If he had been moving with more pace that could have been really nasty.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
Ollie not looking good
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Pull him off at HT, I say.Ollie not looking good
Alright, calm down, Smirker!
Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Looked like his knee twisted wrong when he collided.That's what I said but F in Dixon going on about his shin and shin pads :-[
Pull him off at HT, I say.
And if Harvey Elliot did that we'll understand.Nothing wrong with him. He’s just embarrassed to miss that chance.
That’s what I said to my son.
Not sure you’re right. Fingers crossed it’s not serious, but he’s not moving freely and twatting your shin/knee into the post will hurt.
Yes, I wasn’t altogether serious. He’s definitely moving gingerly.
Anyone good on stats? When was the last time 2 Villa players scored for England?I will start: Never.
Anyone good on stats? When was the last time 2 Villa players scored for England?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.No one's going to get upset, it's not as if it was against Scotland?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.No one's going to get upset, it's not as if it was against Scotland?
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Arthur Brown was on fire.It was a crazy world back then.
They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
We only used to get a slice of orange when I played.
Pull him off at HT, I say.
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Scotland have been absolute pish but somehow in front.Ref has lost his whistle...oh he's found it.
Faroes stuffed Montenegro 4-0.That somehow doesn't surprise me. I went to a Montenegrin top division game in the summer and there were only around 400 people there and most were the players' families. And that was at last season's runners up but for some reason it was free to get it. All the locals seem to support Serbian clubs.
Considering their population they get some pretty impressive results.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
You tend to do well against them.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Big turning point in the match was a brilliant save from Angus Gunn to keep it at 2-1, then moments later the Greek goalie gifts Dykes the goal, which finishes the match off.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Somehow Scotland winning 3-1. Lyndon Dykes out of retirement and into the net.
Big turning point in the match was a brilliant save from Angus Gunn to keep it at 2-1, then moments later the Greek goalie gifts Dykes the goal, which finishes the match off.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
Just a head full of useless football facts really. For example I know Oliver Vaughton's family company was involved in naking the FA Cup trophy at one point. I can’t remember what I'm supposed to be doing today without checking though.Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Blimey, I know we’re quite an old crowd on here, but fucking he’ll you must be Highlander.
Did it mention their 'never say Dai' mentality....men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Or as one of tomorrow’s papers says, ‘men against boyos’. Sorry Dinas.
Surprised myself by remembering that without checking it. I think it was in 1882 as well.They once won 13-0 with nine goals shared between two Villa players. I won't mention the opposition for fear of upsetting a regular poster.Oliver Vaughton and Arthur Brown I think.
Pretty good effort. Howard Vaughton with 5, Brown got 4. Annoyingly no newspaper seems to have bothered printing the order of the goals so we will probably never know who was the first Villa player to score an international hat-trick.
Lots of info here about match receipts, where the England team stayed and dined after the game. But no overall order of who scored when.
http://englandfootballonline.com/Seas1872-00/1881-82/M0014Ire1882.html
Won the pen for the first as well. Also the stadium should be appreciated by some.
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Ivories won 7-0 and will qualify if they win their final game or Gabon fail to win theirs.
Dirge it may be but he is their King.I remember the Welsh national anthem being much livlier than that shitty dirge?And booing GSTK, their own anthem😂men against boys tonight
god help us against Belgium !
Your fans were incredibly noisy! Singing and jumping all second half.
2-0, great goal for Northern Ireland.
Ivories won 7-0 and will qualify if they win their final game or Gabon fail to win theirs.
Evanny and Ivory play together in perfect harmony.
And the Slovakian keeper's punch! WTF - why not just catch it, sucker?!!2-0, great goal for Northern Ireland.Made a bit worse though because he was the twat who tried to break Morgan Rogers in half in the Sunderland game the other week.
The international break hammers home again when you put 5Live on and they are broadcast Rugby Union to absolutely no fucker.
Like that lot are going to listen to the Trotskyite BBC.
The international break hammers home again when you put 5Live on and they are broadcast Rugby Union to absolutely no fucker.
Like that lot are going to listen to the Trotskyite BBC.
I have a similar terror with 5 Live the weekend of the Ryder Cup. Golf is shit enough on TV never mid the radio
Presumably they think there is less of a chance that would-be attendees would choose instead to stay at home and watch Accrington Stanley vs Newport than, say, Man U vs Liverpool.
This has moral victory written all over it.
It's a bit Villa v Bayern twelve months/forty three years ago. Dunno who Eire's Durán or Morley is, though.
How did Bulgaria get to be so shit? Losing 3-0 to Spain no disgrace, but losing 3-0 in Georgia and now 6-1, at home, against Türkiye is pretty pathetic.
How did Bulgaria get to be so shit? Losing 3-0 to Spain no disgrace, but losing 3-0 in Georgia and now 6-1, at home, against Türkiye is pretty pathetic.
Tough....feel for our Irish community
It's good that Portugal are at home to Hungary on Tuesday, they don't have to travel and will be buoyed by the late win, so I'd expect them to win. We may not need to beat or even draw with Portugal in Dublin to finish second. But probably have to win in Budapest. And obviously, must beat Armenia on Tuesday.
Agree entirely.
Elsewhere, Yeimar Mosquera's Colombia beat South Africa 3-1 to go through to Under-20 World Cup QF.
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Why do Doncaster mean so much to you? The only Donny you should be loving is our Malen.
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Can I just say once again. Fcuking hell Doncaster. 0-4 away at orient. I went against Bradford at home in early September and they’ve not won since!
Crushed by the Mighty O's, my hometown team. Good result for Orient.
Malen scores for Netherlands against Finland. Scotland seem to be going for the tactic of playing incredibly badly again, seeing as it worked against Greece.
Malen scores for Netherlands against Finland. Scotland seem to be going for the tactic of playing incredibly badly again, seeing as it worked against Greece.
Dispatched with aplomb, as they say.
https://x.com/AVFCStatto/status/1977406993762857253 (https://x.com/AVFCStatto/status/1977406993762857253)
The young kid Gannon-Doak looks a good prospect.
I hope Scotland are not given a pen as 2-0 is a dangerous lead.
Faroes 1 Czechia 0.
Faroes back in front.
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
You’ll struggle to see two worse performances get 6 points than those Scotland have put together…fair play to them!
see told you 2-0 is dangerous...squeezy bum time.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
Semi Final? I'm surprised anybody has recovered from the final in 2015. That's the closest I've ever come to knocking it on the head.
FA Cup First Round draw tonight at half six.
Please don't remind me, I'm not fully over the semi final.
Semi Final? I'm surprised anybody has recovered from the final in 2015. That's the closest I've ever come to knocking it on the head.
*adopts Brazilian accent* They're on the Verde of qualifying.
That Welsh national anthem was something else. England's is a dirge by comparison
Fair pointThat Welsh national anthem was something else. England's is a dirge by comparison
England's is a dirge compared to Agadoo.
Onana's having a bit of a stinkerWent down like the proverbial when a finger brushed cheek as well.
Bruno Fernandes just made an appearance at the Wales v Belgium game
Fabian Delph has just invaded the pitch.😀
Bruno Fernandes just made an appearance at the Wales v Belgium game
Actually that works better than mine, Delph was a snake, wasn't he?
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana was terrible
He looked like a 40 year old trying to keep up with play and always being 5 yards behind every one else
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana now gone off. Miraculously not looking injured.
How did he play? Daft penalty given away there
Onana was terrible
He looked like a 40 year old trying to keep up with play and always being 5 yards behind every one else
Cabo Verde, 2026: almost certain to win tournament as debutants based on above evidence.
That’s an indisputable fact based on one event.Cabo Verde, 2026: almost certain to win tournament as debutants based on above evidence.
Plus a Portuguese speaking team always wins it when the tournament is held in the United States.
Cabo Verde have qualified, that's all that matters.
It's not that unusual. Like most countries, the kit reflects the colours of their flag. Also Greenland wear white and red, and Ivory Coast's first kit is orange and green rather than white.
Heroes don't always wear cabos.
Aston Villa Statto
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Both Ezri Konsa and Morgan Rogers 𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐓 tonight for England in a World Cup qualifier against Latvia in Riga 🇱🇻.
Konsa earns his 16th cap for England, while Morgan Rogers earns his 10th cap.
The England team looks very balanced tonight. Not the best players but everyone in their best positions.
Can’t remember which thread but there’s a debate about Kane as a false 9. I reckon Gordon is a pretty perfect foil for that, as he’s express pace looking to get behind. Kane should create some big gaps for him.
The England team looks very balanced tonight. Not the best players but everyone in their best positions.
Can’t remember which thread but there’s a debate about Kane as a false 9. I reckon Gordon is a pretty perfect foil for that, as he’s express pace looking to get behind. Kane should create some big gaps for him.
Looks a very good side. I thought Anderson was very impressive in the last match. He’s very good at moving the ball around quickly.
The one time I want Portugal to win 🙄
Kane misses a routine chance. If that had been Ollie he would have been slatedOnly by noses and few on here ;)
Yay cuddly Ronaldo.
Not his best half, for England, Rogers. Konsa looks sound
Not his best half, for England, Rogers. Konsa looks sound
I haven't seen most of the first half, but Rogers is getting into positions and being ignored mostly for other options. Has Konsa had anything to do?
Tuchel is going to have quite a few decisions to make really. England have looked a pretty coherent side over the past few games with players actually playing in their best positions.
The inclusion of Henderson remains pretty inexplicable though!
Tuchel is going to have quite a few decisions to make really. England have looked a pretty coherent side over the past few games with players actually playing in their best positions.
The inclusion of Henderson remains pretty inexplicable though!
It's not inexplicable, it's arguably unnecessary.
The explanation is that the likes of Anderson, Rogers, Konsa, Spence, Lewis-Skelly, Gordon, Gibbs-White, Burn, Eze, O'Reilly, Trafford and Henderson have about forty caps between the twelve of them, so you stick someone in who's been doing it for fifteen years to hold their hand.
Wouldn't do it myself, but it's not that stupid an idea in principle. If he's benching Anderson in the World Cup and playing Henderson, *that* would be inexplicable.
This is pretty neutral.
The commentator was talking about Harry Kane beating Jimmy Greaves record of hat tricks for England if he had scored from the free kick late on.
Harry Kane has a brilliant record 76 goals in 110 apps, but he doesn't beat Jimmy Greaves record of goals per game. Kane has a goals per game record of 0.69 Greaves scored 44 in 57 apps goals per game 0.77.
^^ Not a great game but I was very distracted with all this MTA stuff. Philogene wasn’t great from what I saw.
^^ Not a great game but I was very distracted with all this MTA stuff. Philogene wasn’t great from what I saw.
He wasn’t great at all.
I’ve also noticed that that booing the bending of the knee is growing in volume as witnessed by the start of the Forest v Chelsea game. Flying flags appears to have emboldened some.
I like Forest. But it's wrong seeing Douglas Luiz in their kit.I agree. Loved Dougie. He looks so much better and he also played so much better in a Villa shirt.
Wrong wrong wrong.
I like Forest. But it's wrong seeing Douglas Luiz in their kit.
Wrong wrong wrong.
Shame Ange looks like he’s on his way out.
What a ridiculous 2nd yellow.
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
What a ridiculous 2nd yellow.
And a ridiculous yellow.
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
watching Bournemouth high press Palace , seems to work so far
can they really sack him so early.. the owner has to take some responsibility if he does
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
Wolves losing as usual, I wonder if another manager is about to be potted.
That Forest chairman really needs to look in the mirror and realise he’s made one hell of a balls up. If they appoint Dyche that will round it off nicely!
He'd either need an extremely large mirror or stand well back.
As it stands Bournemouth are top, which amuses me a lot.
Macron is rumoured to have pencilled in Ange as his next PM.
Macron is rumoured to have pencilled in Ange as his next PM.
What's French for 'mate'?
Rangers were 1-0 up, now 2-1 down at home to Dundee United.
Bournemouth down to 4th.
Bournemouth down to 4th.
Back to first again.
Rangers were 1-0 up, now 2-1 down at home to Dundee United.
That's a shame.
3rd goal for Hull
3rd goal for Hull
3rd goal for Hull
Lost the home game unbeaten streak. New manager soon whilst Gerrard is available?
Wolves losing as usual, I wonder if another manager is about to be potted.
Birmingham coming up and winning European games next season, but are closer to last place than top.
Birmingham coming up and winning European games next season, but are closer to last place than top.
Bottom half of the second division is their natural level, always has been
Douglas Luiz’s career probably hasn’t gone as well as he’d like post Villa. He could have signed a new deal with us. Ends up becoming a PSR victim and shipped off to Juventus. Doesn’t make it there and joins Forest. A good move seemingly until the fat owner crazily fires their most successful manager in ages and gets his Greek mate Ange. Then he gets potted as they sit in the bottom 3 of the PL table, and in an elimination spot in the Europa.
Honestly believe it was a bit of both tbh.
Fulham playing really well. Still expect Arsenal to win though
Mick Jagger at the match, is he getting satisfactionDoes he looked stoned?
I didn't know he was a Woolwich fan.
Mick Jagger at the match, is he getting satisfaction
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!any relation to Fred?
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!
No way is that a penalty.
There's a player called Kevin playing for Fulham, he's a Brazilian!
We don't need to talk about Kevin.
Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
I agree.
I'd go further, though, and say he's absolutely out of his depth in the PL.
Arsenal are looking good, but Gyokeres does not appear to be the answer to their centre forward problem.
I do think you have to have a very specific all round game to be effective as a striker (like Ollie) or be truly exceptional (like Haaland).Very few kids want to be centre forwards now, they all want to be wide forwards or number 10s or 8s. It is also the most difficult position to play on the pitch.
Shouldn't Scottish and Irish football be discussed in the non-league thread?
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.Stopping any commentary to allow us to sample the atmosphere and YNWA really is vomit inducing.
Vomit inducing commentary in the lead up to kickoff.Stopping any commentary to allow us to sample the atmosphere and YNWA really is vomit inducing.
MacAllister is such a clown. Fake injuries cost real goals.Could have career in egg chasing
Get this nonsense out of the league.
Edit: a water polo cap.. hahaha this couldn’t be funnier. Like a dog with a cone of shame!
The best outcome here is surely a Man U win. Fuck Slot, the smug 'do they always do fireworks?' ******.
It’s about 14 degrees, why is that twat wearing gloves ?
Liverpool are all over the place atm
I don't like this. ManUre look competent. I prefer it when they're an absolute clown car of a team.
God, Carragher is such a twat.
Slot is like Klopp, all smiles and charm when things go well, an unpleasant snidey twat when they aren't.
4 defeats on the bounce, oh dear.
This is their Mark Robins moment.
That Chiesa Liverpool have is not very good is he?
getafe 2 sent off v RM
Slot moaning that a team beat them by playing in a way he didn't like.
Really poor quality game at Anfield, sometimes happens after international breaks. I thought Cunha and Mbuemo would like so many others sink without trace at Man United but they were both very good, Cunha particularly. That was with Mount and later Sesko offering less than zero up with them. Great result for them but still the same lack of legs in midfield.
Liverpool looked very flat, have done so all season. Still created plenty of goal chances but are very easy to play against these days. Salah and VVD struggled and their sub keeper looked a bomb scare. Balance of their team looks off.
Slot moaning that a team beat them by playing in a way he didn't like.
The MOTD pundits rightly called it out for the nonsense it was.
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Don't think we can underestimate the impact Jota's death has had on their squad. Obviously loss of a very good player but lots of them no doubt still grieving.
In possession, Bradley is a major downgrade on what TAA could give them in games like yesterday. Kerkez on other side seems lost again in comparison to what Robertson used give them too.
In context they’ve also scored some late goals to rescue results earlier in the season.
In context they’ve also scored some late goals to rescue results earlier in the season.
To be fair to Carragher, he has been calling this out since the start of the season. Late goals not sustainable to maintain results, ironically enough Gakpo missed an absolute sitter late on yesterday. Carragher was also strong on prioritising the Isak budget elsewhere in the squad, seems to be the right call on the evidence so far too.
None of the title favourites seem unstoppable thus far.
Lots of empty seats at the Spammers.Boycott must be working
Seeing Liverpool spending all that only to get definitively worse is really really something.
Don't think we can underestimate the impact Jota's death has had on their squad. Obviously loss of a very good player but lots of them no doubt still grieving.
In possession, Bradley is a major downgrade on what TAA could give them in games like yesterday. Kerkez on other side seems lost again in comparison to what Robertson used give them too.
Yes, obviously the horrible thing that happened with Jota does cast the whole thing in a more sympathetic light, you're right there. But there's definitely a mess going on with players signed for insane money after long wrangling sagas, who apparently can't all play in the same team and only one of whom - the least expensive - is actually contributing.
Var back to guessing again. Semi automated system not working so they use whichever freeze frame they choose to do. Go forward one frame and he's offside. Go back one frame and he's onside so they literally guess from a blurry image when the ball is actually played. It's nonsense and should be scrapped.
Good news for the West Ham players is there won't be many fans left to boo them at full-time.
West Ham getting massacred 1-0 so far. If you take pleasure in other supporters misery check out their KUMB forum. It's not a happy place.
Oh dear West Ham look relegation candidates. Surely Nuno can sort this load of crap out?
Oh dear West Ham look relegation candidates. Surely Nuno can sort this load of crap out?
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
Back in the day , even when they were shit they had the Boleyn Ground atmosphere to fall back on which normally gave them enough points to stay up. Now with increased revenue, lots of cash spent they have that soulless toxic bowl to look forward to.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Indeed, Moyes may not be a 'sexy' choice (many fans wouldn't want him in B6) but he's a decent PL manager.
Imagine being a West Ham having to watch this shite in this soulless bowl every couple of weeks.
The same fans who thought Moyes didn't play attractive football, the same manager who won them a trophy and were comfortble in mid-table and couldn't wait for him to leave the club.
Indeed, Moyes may not be a 'sexy' choice (many fans wouldn't want him in B6) but he's a decent PL manager.
If the limit of your ambition is a challenge for top 6 and the odd decent Cup run.
West Ham have finished in the top 6 three times in the last 50 years, they'd love that to be their ambition every season.
West Ham have finished in the top 6 three times in the last 50 years, they'd love that to be their ambition every season.
They have a Sporting Director. It is Mark Noble.....
They have a Sporting Director. It is Mark Noble.....
he did say a strong sporting director tohugh.
I don't know why Sullivan still bothers. He is about 108, still wears a stupid Russian hat and has to sit behind protective perspex to watch their games.
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
I don't know why Sullivan still bothers. He is about 108, still wears a stupid Russian hat and has to sit behind protective perspex to watch their games.
According to Google's AI Overview David Sullivan is 6 ft 0 in (184 cm). Who'd have thought it?
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
£550m he's spent in his seven transfer windows and every bit of their team looks like it needs to be scrapped and started over.
I know. Just pointing out who it is for people not knowing. Almost as bad a decision as Gardner being sporting director across the city.
£550m he's spent in his seven transfer windows and every bit of their team looks like it needs to be scrapped and started over.
Assuming transfermkt is correct I'm getting about £380m (Jan 2023 until now). It doesn't stop the second bit being correct though.
Lucas Paqueta is one of what we would suggest is just two unquestionably good signings in a £550m transfer spend across Noble’s seven transfer windows with his hand on the tiller. He played a few neat passes, but doesn’t have anything like the support he needs to be the creative threat he evidently can be. The other plus point for Noble is currently pulling up trees for Tottenham.
For me, it states no height for the businessman but 6ft for the footballer. (plus a list of other David Sullivans).
Seems they either believe Noble was sanctioning transfers before he got the job (it was announced in Sept2022 and he formally took up position in Jan 2023) or they forgot Paqueta was signed in Aug 2022. His first official signing was Ings for 12mil.
Now 5-1 to PSG, so I’ve bailed on that one.5-5 now.
Now 5-1 to PSG, so I’ve bailed on that one.5-5 now.
Worst ref ever! Absolutely fuming! 😡
Watched one-time Arsenal rising star Jay Emmanuel-Thomas this evening.
In June he was given a four-year prison sentence for drug trafficking. In July this year he was released from prison*. In October I watched him come on as a pretty ineffectual sub after an hour for AFC Totton, as they enjoyed a meek 2-0 loss to Bath City, the first time I'd watched them win in about two years (about a dozen matches).
Life comes at you fast.
*justice system is working well, it seems.
Salah dropped tonight, fully justified, he's been useless.Completely disagree as I think he has been very good. It's a disgrace that he has been dropped.
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
I did and Chris Jameson, a poster on here, put me in my place saying that he was going to be a top goal scorer. However I still think he is a FTB and has never scored an important goal against top class opposition either for his clubs or England.Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?Yep, a couple on here. As well as others on other media.
Certainly a good week for the English coefficient so far.
Does anyone remember when Ajax were not a pub team?
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
Did anyone actually say he was a one season wonder?
Guilty. I definitely remember thinking he’s ’not quick, no skill, looks a bit of a lump’ when he was coming through. He’d also been mostly average on loan at places like Orient and Norwich.
I told a bunch of people that I'd play Gerrard at Right Back for England because it would have been the best way to play him and Lampard in the same team.
Not sure if that counts but a few of my mates still give me shit about it.
I told a bunch of people that I'd play Gerrard at Right Back for England because it would have been the best way to play him and Lampard in the same team.I think it was Germany away when he played there and I came to the same conclusion.
Not sure if that counts but a few of my mates still give me shit about it.
I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Possibly the best ever on this site. Hope it doesn’t lead to a flood.I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Saw that game. Noah's 2-2-2-2-2 formation left them exposed on the flanks.
I like looking at ties in Europe, especially the Conference. While you have ties between well known sides like Rapid v Fiorentina and Shakhtar v Legia, you alo have Hamrun Spartans v Lausanne-Sport and Universitatea Craiova v Noah, i'm assuming the wet weather will suit Noah.
Saw that game. Noah's 2-2-2-2-2 formation left them exposed on the flanks.
Douglas Luiz has put on a few pounds, I think.
Forest leading. As if the night couldn’t get any worse.
Good old jan Bednarek gives away a penalty.
W ;)hen I was single I played a lot more.Douglas Luiz has put on a few pounds, I think.He's single now and not playing as regularly.
Have Palace managed an ever shitter result than us?On balance, yes
Judging by the Rangers highlights it was all Brann.Rangers lacked necessary fibre.
2-0 nowWham are shite and against an intense pressing side they fold very easily.
Preston 3-2
Only way Bowen leaves WH is if they go down
He’ll be 29 next season and could be up for grabs, now there’s a player that would do well for us
Preston 3-2
Oh yes, they can bloody well do it now.
West Ham have spent a fortune to be this shit. Which is nice.
West Ham have spent a fortune to be this shit. Which is nice.
A quick browse of KUMB suggests that they already want Nuno out.
Starting to look like we’ll be taking 6 points off Cov next season.
The Albion game is fcuking dire.
Tom Ritchie puts Bristol City ahead.
Tom Ritchie puts Bristol City ahead.
It says Armstrong on Sky, whoever the fuck that is.
Our 0-0 at Sunderland is not looking like a bad result at the moment!
Sunderland win it at the death at Chelsea. Up to 2nd is incredible.
Sunderland will avoid relegation. That’s about it.
Casemiro shoots wide but deflection takes it in but it’s not an own goal? So my question is what is an own goal these days, clearly deflections causing the goal aren’t.
I see KDB pulled his hamstring after scoring a pen for Napoli.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Yeah, fucking ManUre ruining Other Football. Their game used to be the one I'd always watch if Villa weren't playing because of the comedy value, but now they are looking worryingly competent.
I see KDB pulled his hamstring after scoring a pen for Napoli.
Man Utd winning games is pissing me off.
Yeah, fucking ManUre ruining Other Football. Their game used to be the one I'd always watch if Villa weren't playing because of the comedy value, but now they are looking worryingly competent.
Time added on 3 minutes. Liverpool score at 5 minutes. I know it’s a min of 3 minutes, but why the ref played so long is controversial. Crowd are fuming.
The whole “it’s a minimum of” is nonsense. Otherwise they’d just put 1 up each time. The board is meant to indicate and estimate of time to add on so if he wanted to play 5 he should have stuck that on the board.
Penalty Brentford. Foul was initially given as a free kick, but VAR advised the ref foul was on the line. Ref then announced it to the crowd. Brentford did what we don’t and scored. 3-1
Penalty Brentford. Foul was initially given as a free kick, but VAR advised the ref foul was on the line. Ref then announced it to the crowd. Brentford did what we don’t and scored. 3-1
Blimey, that was tight
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Justice. Poor old p-lop.
Clear foul in the build up to Mbweno’s first goal.We’ve got our Man Utd back.
Could be curtains for Slot if Pl-op lose their next game. Who have they got?
Oh shit!
Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
.Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
.Shooting position and whether you are going towards goal are relevant in deciding if a player should be booked or sent off, but have no impact whatsoever in deciding if it is a foul. And fouls are always penalties or direct free kicks. Also, fuck Liverpool, Man-U enabling twats.
I’m not contesting the rule. I’m suggesting the rule is a bit shit. Just like an inadvertent handball with no intent at all being given as a penalty. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Also, true is fuck Liverpool.
The rule that fouls in the “penalty area” shouldn’t be penalties? They could do away with the white painted line that marks that area too. Could save some money.
Liverpool have made the mistake of forgetting Premier League teams all have good players and you have to earn the right to win. You can’t just ignore the midfield battle. That’s what’s killing them, they have no base to layer all their attack on.Not all with West Ham, Burnley and Wolves being the exceptions.
I couldn’t believe the hype about the Salah deal . He was only going to go one way after that last season at that age . I am not saying he isn’t a good player but i would have looked elsewhere
Another Keith Andrews masterclass.
Finished Gateshead 2-2 Truro, notable for being the longest away trip in English league football history.
Wolves losing to Burnley.
I know it’s not allowed to have too many Midlands sides in the top flight as room needs to be made for NW and London sides, so alas we will need to lose the Dogheads to accommodate Coventry. No room for the knuckledraggers or bitters.
I know it’s not allowed to have too many Midlands sides in the top flight as room needs to be made for NW and London sides, so alas we will need to lose the Dogheads to accommodate Coventry. No room for the knuckledraggers or bitters.
They might allow one of them if Forest go though.
"Sacked in the morning", "we want Fosun out", and trying to fight their own players.I think Ange could do a job there.
#levels
Fcuk me Everton fans don’t half moan.
Fcuk me Everton fans don’t half moan.The most consistently outraged fans in football.
Everton really have been shite.
Everton really have been shite.
Their entire tactical plan is ‘gerrit out to jack.’
This might get ruled out for a foul on the keeper.
Edit: Right decision. Goal disallowed.
Apart from Cash's I think my favourite goal of the weekend was Burnleys first against Wolves. Beautiful volley places into the net.
What was that TV programme back in the day? Used to have Danny Kenny and Lisa Rodgers on it.
What was that TV programme back in the day? Used to have Danny Kenny and Lisa Rodgers on it.
I like Kelly and Paul Hawksbee but they both got wrapped up in the "call the police/write to your MP/questions in the house" reaction to Cash's tackle on some no mark or other of theirs.
They just can't get over it.
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Looks like they may well bludgeon themselves to a title with corners and ugly play.
Didn't they have a similar start last season of winning by loads of set piece goals. What they seem to have done is finally lock down the easy goals they concede which I assume is down to having a decent defensive midfielder instead of just Rice.Yes.
All Cardiff so far, could be 2 or 3 uo.
Well done DC, deserved the win. Swansea at home in the next round?
Well done DC, deserved the win. Swansea at home in the next round?
would want them in the final :)
but seriously looking at the teams still involved hoping for a home tie next round
shame villa isn't still involved.
Thanks for the well done messages
Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
I turned on after 20 minutes. Liverpool look like what they are. Basically a scratch side of mostly 2nd stringers and kids against something resembling a proper team.Oh dear. P-lop now 2 nil down.Deservedly so too.
Absolutely. I've only watched the last 10 minutes of the first half but Palace have been the better side by quite a long way. Sarr has been excellent.
Spurs keeper poorIt’s a long list post Pat Jennings.
Dingles now 2–3.
Wolves 0 Chelsea 3. Lots of custard looking seats at the custard place.
Palace 3 up.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
Nice beaverA little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
*applause*
Some movies just stick in the mind for little things like that for decades and still remain as funny as the first time you hear them.
"In hospital? What is it?"
"It's a big building with patients in it, but that's not important right now"
Nice beaverA little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
That surely can't be the case?
It is the case and don't call me Shirley.
*applause*
Some movies just stick in the mind for little things like that for decades and still remain as funny as the first time you hear them.
"In hospital? What is it?"
"It's a big building with patients in it, but that's not important right now"
Who are you and how did you get in?
A little mad that now Palace are through to the QFs they have to play on the 14th 16th 18th and 21st December across 3 different competitions. Can't see any of the Sky 6 accepting that.
It will be ridiculous if they punish Palace for qualifying for Europe by making them play four games in eight days. They should really have considered this possibility at the start of the season and reduced the semi-finals to one leg, or started the Premier League a week earlier and left a free midweek.
On the other hand, after the amount of misery they have inflicted on us in recent years, sod Crystal Palace.
Arsenal with another set piece goal - shocker
Doug substituted after 14 minutes for Forest, presume an injury. It doesn’t seem to be going for him since he left us.
Norwich looking a decent shout to be a 3rd division side next season.
Forest equalise (Gibbs-White).2-1 up now
SHA 3-0 up v Pompey. World domination back on.
Fulham 2-0 up against Wolves.
Hearts 3-0 up, which is nice.Eurgh
Hearts 3-0 up, which is nice.Eurgh
3-0 Fulham. What a disaster.Has he gone yet?
There could be a 8 point gap minimum between Wolves and safety. And a 4 point gap between bottom 3 and 17th.
There could be a 8 point gap minimum between Wolves and safety. And a 4 point gap between bottom 3 and 17th.
They used to be so fond of gaps, too.
Nice to see the Chelsea captain trying to get the Spurs play sent off . They really are horrible fucking club . Saying that they have been far better than Spurzz
Wolves next six games.Character building
Chelsea a
Palace h
Villa a
Forest h
Man United h
Arsenal a
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playingSpurs are terrible.
Thomas Frank has a lot of work to doI’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playingSpurs are terrible.
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
Until your post I had genuinely never heard of him and even now suspect you have made him up.
I’ve watched all this Spurs v Chelsea game & only when he was substituted did I realise Kolo-Muani was playing
Until your post I had genuinely never heard of him and even now suspect you have made him up.
Jacob Ramsey looks lost at Newcastle. Few touches in the center circle, hardly any running with the ball. No goals/assists all season.
Jacob Ramsey looks lost at Newcastle. Few touches in the center circle, hardly any running with the ball. No goals/assists all season.
3-0 Fulham. What a disaster.Has he gone yet?
Haaland looking the real deal again.
Haaland looking the real deal again.
Antony hit a decent effort for Betis earlier. Seems Sancho is one of the few ex-Manure who isn't much better away from Old Trafford and Amorim.
1 nil Everton superb goal Ndiaye
Fantastic ball in by Grealish and Barry somehow puts it over the bar from a few yards out. That could be one they regret.
Looking at Sunderland's league results so far, our result wasn't that bad, before tonights match, we are the only team to have taken anything from them at their place.
In fairness, he's barely had a run yet. Still think we'll regret letting him go.I think we're missing him at the moment: Ramsey left and McGinn Right-side last Saturday and we'd have been much better equipped.
1 nil Everton superb goal Ndiaye
Great player.
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
I have an irrational hate of Lewis-Skelly
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
Lucky her, it's bound to be better than North London Forever.
Very harsh pen going to be given to Liverpool at the moment.Agreed. It was not a handball, so the position on the pitch is irrelevant.
Edit: Ref decided it wasn't handball which I believe is right but would have been a pen if he had decided it wasn't. The hand/arm was in a natural position.
No, not if she has done her homework.Arsenal bring on a 15 year old. Youngest CL player ever.
My daughter of a similar age is upstairs in her bedroom listening to music!
I bet she isn’t getting lumps kicked out of her.
Very harsh pen going to be given to Liverpool at the moment.Shearer on commentary is adamant the Real players arm is in an unnatural position therefore should of been a penalty. I couldn't disagree more. His arm was in pretty much the only place it could be and he was looking away when the ball struck his arm.
Edit: Ref decided it wasn't handball which I believe is right but would have been a pen if he had decided it wasn't. The hand/arm was in a natural position.
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!Remember this day, 4 November 2025.
Fuck off!
Luis Diaz two goals and a red card all in the first half.
Luis Diaz two goals and a red card all in the first half.
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!Remember this day, 4 November 2025.
Fuck off!
"A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
Come on now, if you’re over 35 you know the connotations that word has especially with their club because of what happened in 1989.
There’s plenty of ways of calling them whinging tw*ts without using that phrase.
Charlton Athletic 1 0 West Bromwich Albion
S. Carey (90'+5)
That phrase was first used by Everton fans after Heysel in 85' where ticketless Liverpool fans forced the gates causing panic among the Juventus fans and 39 people lost their lives. Liverpool blamed poor policing and a dilapidated stadium. They had a point but were definitely not blameless. I meant no relation to the Hillsborough disaster in 89' because that was not the fault of Liverpool fans. That was down to diabolical policing on the day and who can ever forget the cover up by the police and Thatchers government. For that reason I'll admit I chose the wrong phrase and won't be using it again."A major penalty controversy" - really?!!The Kop wanted a penalty. The referee didn't award them one. That's the definition of a major controversy. Victim FC will go into meltdown.
Fuck off!
Come on now, if you’re over 35 you know the connotations that word has especially with their club because of what happened in 1989.
There’s plenty of ways of calling them whinging tw*ts without using that phrase.
Stoke currently 2nd in Div 2.
But not goal of the season against these amateurs from Denmark.
PSG v Bayern....best 2 teams in the competition on tonight's showing.don’t forget Real Small Heath if they were in it. They are all getting excited again..
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
I love how the vibe with the Liverpool fans booing of ‘Trent’ is ‘understandable’ in a way it isn’t for any other fucking home grown player getting booed.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
Yes but when we booed our players, we were told the fans were being really unfair to a player who has been a servent to the club. When TTA is booed it is understandable as he broke the fans hearts and the excellent fans can't forgive that.
CarrierBag have just equalised against Chelsea.
CarrierBag have just equalised against Chelsea.
We have people that still give shit to Yorke, Barry, Delph and Grealish. It's hardly unique.
Yes but when we booed our players, we were told the fans were being really unfair to a player who has been a servent to the club. When TTA is booed it is understandable as he broke the fans hearts and the excellent fans can't forgive that.
TV commentators and pundits do spread the narrative. What did I hear last night… “this fixture is too soon”, “ It’s still raw”
Anthony Taylor really is shitYes but Attwell is toast now for over ruling him at world stage.
Midtjylland battering Celtic and currently top the Europa League.
Airdrieonians v Partick will be live on Beeb.
Just constants oohs and aahs
Fcuking hell I hate football at times. This lot are coming back aren’t they.
Richarlison is pants.
Fcuking hell I hate football at times. This lot are coming back aren’t they.
You spoke to soon!!!
2-2 hahahahaHahahaha Spurs. Wankers
2-2 hahahaha
Jesus,Spuds can't defend
Double lol, pair of clowns.
Can Mccoist be any further up Man Uniteds collective arse.And his funny jokes,🙄
Can Mccoist be any further up Man Uniteds collective arse.And his funny jokes,🙄
Edwards leaves on a high?
Edwards leaves on a high?Really can’t see why he’d leave to go the Dogheads…..they could very possibly swap places division wise come the end of the season….they’re on completely different trajectories.
If Sunderland win they'll go 2nd. Like Spurs when they played usSpurs could have gone second again, today, if they’d won.
Neto hammering the third nail into Wolve coffin tonight. Wolves has had one chance all evening, not sure what Edwards thinks he will do.
It’s some story this for Sunderland. From relegation to division 3 just a few years ago to this kind of performance in the top flight.They have completely refreshed the squad. They looked very low on quality at the end of last season and were lucky in the play offs I thought. Spend big to survive and it’s going incredibly well. Absolutely nobody predicted this.
Is that Bayern's first dropped points of the season?
Anyone know the Brentford score?
1-1 at Brentford
Arsenal still have enough time to Arsenal it up.
Up to sixth as it stands.
Brilliant Haaland scores.
Obviously, Man City are evil, but it is quite funny that Liverpool spent all that money to go so decisively backwards.Must be on track for the worst title defence since Blackburn.
Obviously, Man City are evil, but it is quite funny that Liverpool spent all that money to go so decisively backwards.
Chelsea were worse, finished 10th, Blackburn were 7th. Leicester worst of all in PL era, 12th. Season before the PL Leeds managed 17th.
Chelsea were worse, finished 10th, Blackburn were 7th. Leicester worst of all in PL era, 12th. Season before the PL Leeds managed 17th.I thought Blackburn did far worse than that for some reason. Completely forgot about Leicester, too.
Maybe their abject European showing played a part in your thinking?Probably. Who could forget that punch up.
We got it tactically wrong last week vs Liverpool. The Emi disaster made things a lot worse. They were there for the taking.
£400 million well spent.
£400 million well spent.
They need Harvey Elliot back as a matter of urgency.
Brilliant decision, fuck off Liverpool.Yup. Whilst Robertson was not in Donnarumma's sight line he interfered with play by ducking out of the way whilst offside.
We finished 11th in 81-82?
Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Can't remember exact match but a freekick came in from far left of box. The attacker standing right in front of the keeper in an offside position lept the ball but did try to kick it which delayed our keeper from diving for it and the freekick went straight in. Ref and lino decided he wasn't interfering.
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?Unless you are a ref against Villa in which case the offside player can leap frog the ball whilst trying to sweep it in and they will be ruled as not intefering with play.
Which match was that?
Can't remember exact match but a freekick came in from far left of box. The attacker standing right in front of the keeper in an offside position lept the ball but did try to kick it which delayed our keeper from diving for it and the freekick went straight in. Ref and lino decided he wasn't interfering.
Same thing happened in another Manchester City game a few weeks ago and the Manchester player was deemed not interfering with play?
Said it before, Slot is like Klopp. All smiles and charm when it's going well. Snidey unpleasant whiney twat when it isn't.
Liverpool have made contact with Professional Game Match Officials Limited to raise their concerns over the decision to disallow Virgil van Dijk's goal in Sunday's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City.
As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
Said it before, Slot is like Klopp. All smiles and charm when it's going well. Snidey unpleasant whiney twat when it isn't.
he was a twat when they were doing well ' do they usually have fireworks or is it just for us ' Although there might be some BBC editing there
I thought it was Brian Clough?As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
I think that was Bill Shankly.
Slot’s a funny one. A leading manager from a minor league, I think he got extremely lucky last year - obviously there was the fact that Klopp had left him a top 5 team, but also they had a bit of a nightmare window last summer that basically left him with no new (his choice) players, which in turn meant he couldn’t really tinker. That turned out to his advantage, coupled with the very indifferent performances of City and Arsenal.
He has the Dutch way of plain speaking which, when the pressure is on, also sounds rather thin skinned. He is under the kind of pressure now that one might have expected last winter (got to give it time to bed in, etc.), except that while back then that might have sounded reasonable (just arrived), it is now less so, especially given he spunked up £400m in between times.
Will be interesting to see how that plays out over the next 12-18 months. In my view, he’s a good continental coach but no more than that. Will he get found out?
Bill NicholsonI thought it was Brian Clough?As Jack Charlton would say ‘ what you doing on the pitch if are not interfering with play like ‘
I think that was Bill Shankly.
Rogers and Konsa both start, as expected. Just come back in one piece.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
It would be and would mean they'd finish 2nd if they beat Hungary. Portugal will no doubt break our hearts before that.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
Ireland 1-0 up against Portugal.
That would be some result. Do they have Hungary last game?
It would be and would mean they'd finish 2nd if they beat Hungary. Portugal will no doubt break our hearts before that.
Winning tonight and then losing to Hungary feels a bit more like recent Ireland behaviour to me.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
Make that 2-0 to Ireland, Troy Parrott again.
That’s the way to do it!
Ronaldo responds by a crying motion in the direction of O'Shea.
Cristiano Ronaldo has been sent off.
He sarcastically applauds the fans
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Didn't think it was at first but the replay shows he did it with some venom. The Cliff Richards lookalike ******
Shouldn't Starmer be ensuring Serbs could attend a match on English soil without any issues?
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Which is fine, but that's a Rogers problem not a Kane problem.
The team will be picked (correctly in my opinion) on the attackers who can work the best with Kane.
So if Rogers wants to play, he needs to adapt his game rather than expecting Kane to adapt his.
Brilliant play by Rogers for the 2 1 touch passes before he slipped on the follow up, he looks totally at home for England now. He definitely benefits when Kane isn't standing on his toes though because he has struggled to find space at times when Harry drops into the same area.
Which is fine, but that's a Rogers problem not a Kane problem.
The team will be picked (correctly in my opinion) on the attackers who can work the best with Kane.
So if Rogers wants to play, he needs to adapt his game rather than expecting Kane to adapt his.
Yeah, sure, was just pointing out that our best play was when Kane wasn't standing in at 10.
I'm not slagging Kane off, just pointing out that how he plays makes it difficult for the players in behind him at times.
It's a sad day when Serbian hooligans.... sorry I mean Catholics are not safe in streets of London.Shouldn't Starmer be ensuring Serbs could attend a match on English soil without any issues?Anti-Serbianism.
But it doesn't have to be difficult - the right player would know to move out of the place they think they should be and into a more useful one.
Be nice if we could swap Rogers for Eze.I see what you have done there.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Not really. It's pretty much the same so far. Which is fine.
Hopefully it stops being the same some time around mid-July
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
You mustn't have watched Ireland tonight.
#Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
Best result in a very long time.
Great performance by Ireland, well deserved win.
Best result in a very long time.
Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
You’d have a point if England had played Germany under Tuchel but as he’s only had 8 games it was unlikely he was going to. The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
Italy need an 88th minute goal to (probably) squeeze past bottom-of-the-group, -22 goal difference Moldova.
Whatever you think of the England team/squad this is far superior football than anything Southgate served up.
Ah 2-0 win against Serbia in a qualifier is better than a 2-0 win against Germany in a knockout game or a 4-0 twatting of Ukraine in a quarter-final?
Erm, no.
You’d have a point if England had played Germany under Tuchel but as he’s only had 8 games it was unlikely he was going to. The opposition in this group wasn’t the best but for England to not concede a goal throughout the group is very good. England are for me currently the best in Europe.
My point was relating to "anything Southgate served up" as per your post that I quoted.
If you only really wanted to discuss qualifiers then I'd say a 3-1 win against Italy, 7-0 against North Macedonia, 2-1 against Italy away, 5-0 against Albania, 4-0 in Hungary, 7-0 against Montenegro, 6-0 win in Bulgaria, 4-0 against Bulgaria again, 5-1 in Montenegro, 5-0 against Czechia and a 3-0 win against Scotland were all pretty solid efforts.
Fair play, Tuchel has started well, but I'm not sure why people can't enjoy that without feeling the urge to denigrate the achievements of, comfortably, their greatest manager in the last half-century.
I'm not convinced. His record against countries in the top 10 is appalling. I think we got as far as we have done in recent competitions despite him rather than because of him. I don't know if he's taking a sabbatical from football voluntarily or not but there's hardly a queue of top clubs trying to sign him up. Surely the second best manager in England's history should be taking his pick from the top jobs. Time will be the judge I guess.Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Not sure that tracks with Southgate being England's second best manager in history.
Why are they fellating Foden over a three yard pass when Eze has just bent it in the top corner from 20 yards first time?
NARRATIVE.
I'm not convinced. His record against countries in the top 10 is appalling. I think we got as far as we have done in recent competitions despite him rather than because of him. I don't know if he's taking a sabbatical from football voluntarily or not but there's hardly a queue of top clubs trying to sign him up. Surely the second best manager in England's history should be taking his pick from the top jobs. Time will be the judge I guess.Southgate is Gerrard, Tuchel is Emery.
Not sure that tracks with Southgate being England's second best manager in history.
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
I agree with this.Why are they fellating Foden over a three yard pass when Eze has just bent it in the top corner from 20 yards first time?
NARRATIVE.
It's a simple pass, if anything it's bobbling and Eze catches it sweetly on the bounce. They even brought up Foden when interviewing Eze.
He has his moments ...none in an England shirt but hes the most overrated player in the premier league with Kamara being the most underrated.
The Ireland match was edge of the seat stuff but fabulously entertaining.
They will go some to match that endeavour on Sunday but while you're still in it, you're still in it.
I've also read two seperate pieces in the Guardian by David Hynter and Jacob Steinberg in the last two days wher they state that John Stones is a nailed on starter and Guehi and Konsa are fighting for the spot next to him.Very odd.
Have I missed something here, when was this decided?
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
I've also read two seperate pieces in the Guardian by David Hynter and Jacob Steinberg in the last two days wher they state that John Stones is a nailed on starter and Guehi and Konsa are fighting for the spot next to him.
Have I missed something here, when was this decided?
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
How many games for England has he gone without a goal now? Same old story with England - always trying to shoehorn underperforming 'star' players into the side at the expense of having a side that actually works well together. The midfield and attacking unit of Rice, Anderson, Sarah, Rogers, Gordon and Kane has worked well.in the qualifiers and started to gel.
Jude Bellingham and Phil Foden are two of the worlds most overrated players. I honestly wouldn't want either of them at Villa.
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
How many games for England has he gone without a goal now? Same old story with England - always trying to shoehorn underperforming 'star' players into the side at the expense of having a side that actually works well together. The midfield and attacking unit of Rice, Anderson, Sarah, Rogers, Gordon and Kane has worked well.in the qualifiers and started to gel.
Think that’s a bit harsh in this current team as Tuchel has generally picked players on form. I think it was the game in Serbia where there was no dominant domestic team providing all the players for the national team, it was a real mix, which I thought was refreshing.
Jude Bellingham and Phil Foden are two of the worlds most overrated players. I honestly wouldn't want either of them at Villa.
Wow! I’d swap Rogers for Bellingham in a heartbeat. Foden for any of our forwards. They’re both brilliant players, two of the best in the world, we have zero chance of getting either any time soon.
They were desperate for Foden to do well and ended up praising him for the most minor of things and ignoring anything he did that wasn't great.
It's weird because he gets all this despite having never really played well in 45 attempts, he makes Barnes look like he had a successful England career.
How many games for England has he gone without a goal now? Same old story with England - always trying to shoehorn underperforming 'star' players into the side at the expense of having a side that actually works well together. The midfield and attacking unit of Rice, Anderson, Sarah, Rogers, Gordon and Kane has worked well.in the qualifiers and started to gel.
Think that’s a bit harsh in this current team as Tuchel has generally picked players on form. I think it was the game in Serbia where there was no dominant domestic team providing all the players for the national team, it was a real mix, which I thought was refreshing.
At the moment it looks pretty likely that no Liverpool or Man Utd player will be in the England squad for the World Cup. Can't imagine there have been many England World Cup squads where that has been the case.
Or many England squads at all over the last seventy years or so.
Jude Bellingham and Phil Foden are two of the worlds most overrated players. I honestly wouldn't want either of them at Villa.
Wow! I’d swap Rogers for Bellingham in a heartbeat. Foden for any of our forwards. They’re both brilliant players, two of the best in the world, we have zero chance of getting either any time soon.
Yes.
ITV seemed to have a real bias towards Foden last night. The amount they talked him up after the game really stood out.It’s emperors new clothes stuff, not just ITV they all do it.
Slovakia vs Norn Iron on BBC3 at 7.45 if anyone is bored.
Slovakia vs Norn Iron on BBC3 at 7.45 if anyone is bored.
Spent the month of November in Košice in 2001. It was cold.
Scotland losing after 6 minutes. Absolute clown show defending.
Scotland losing after 6 minutes. Absolute clown show defending.
When the commentator said in the intro that it was Grant Hanleys 65th cap, it’s amazing they’ve qualified or been near qualifying for anything
Caught the last 10 minutes of the first half of the Scotland match and they had a few chances and can count themselves unfortunate to go in a goal down.
Caught the last 10 minutes of the first half of the Scotland match and they had a few chances and can count themselves unfortunate to go in a goal down.
Haven’t they still got 54 year old McGregor in goal? Or is it still Alan Rough.Nearly - Craig Gordon.
How crap is Ché Adams?
Should be level. SJM playing well.
Chaka Demus and Pliers with a great save, there.
Should be level. SJM playing well.
Again.
Should be level. SJM playing well.
Again.
Always does.
It’s not his fault those around him in this game are oozing averageness.
Lyndon Dykes is on. Averageness to less than that is the aim. As much as SJM tries.Should be level. SJM playing well.
Again.
Always does.
It’s not his fault those around him in this game are oozing averageness.
I think they're only aspiring to averageness, to be honest.
That Doak isn't playing very well, didn't realise he's at Liverpool
Bloody Google, thought he was poor dispite his goalThat Doak isn't playing very well, didn't realise he's at Liverpool
He was but he moved to Bournemouth in the summer having been on loan to a team in the championship last season.
I’m so annoyed we missed out on Potter.
Sweden got hammered again, bottom of the group with 1 point from 5 games. A truly dreadful return.
Sweden got hammered again, bottom of the group with 1 point from 5 games. A truly dreadful return.
Who was in goal?
Sweden got hammered again, bottom of the group with 1 point from 5 games. A truly dreadful return.
Who was in goal?
Not our Robin
Sweden got hammered again, bottom of the group with 1 point from 5 games. A truly dreadful return.
Who was in goal?
Not our Robin
That’ll teach me to jump to conclusions.
Which side is this on?
TNT here.
Qualifying for the playoffs with back to back wins against Portugal and away to Hungary is objectively a brilliant achievement.
As for Portugal, they're clearly far better without the petulant narcissist. Will they have the guts to drop him?
That was a Roy of the Rovers finish to a game of such importance. Great entertainment.
Incredible from Ireland and Troy Parrott. Presume he's gonna get a move back to England on the back of the last few days. His life has changed forever.
Yet we still have to win two more games in March, feckin' hell...
Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form. The Jarman has done it so far but I fear he may fall into that age old trap.
That was a Roy of the Rovers finish to a game of such importance. Great entertainment.
Brilliant, scream here frightened my little girl 😂
The winner eerily reminiscent to Robbie Keane's v Germany in 2002 with Quinn's knockdown.
Azaz changed the game when he went into centre mid.
Bellingham has been gash so far
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.
Bellingham has been generally excellent for Real Madrid since coming back from injury and is probably in better "form" than Rogers is.
If it were being done on form, Bellingham should probably have been in instead of Rogers against Serbia.
Bellingham has been gash so farNot that the commentators have noticed; too busy noshing him off.
Bellingham has been gash so farNot that the commentators have noticed; too busy noshing him off.
That was a Roy of the Rovers finish to a game of such importance. Great entertainment.
Brilliant, scream here frightened my little girl 😂
The winner eerily reminiscent to Robbie Keane's v Germany in 2002 with Quinn's knockdown.
Azaz changed the game when he went into centre mid.
Agree with that.
Wow, just watched it on RTE2+1. Moments like that aren't supposed to happen to Ireland, glorious failure is more our thing. If it wasn't for that late Portugal winner in Lisbon, we'd have topped the group. But I'll settle for the play-offs. :)
Swapping shirts at half time should be a yellow card offence :-)
Hope DimTim has found somewhere else to post so he can roll out his Bellingham hatred….who am I kidding, hope he’s shouting at a mirror instead :-)
Agree with that.
Wow, just watched it on RTE2+1. Moments like that aren't supposed to happen to Ireland, glorious failure is more our thing. If it wasn't for that late Portugal winner in Lisbon, we'd have topped the group. But I'll settle for the play-offs. :)
I think ROI would also have needed to find another 10 goals from somewhere.
Don't head-to-head results trump goal difference?
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.
Bellingham has been generally excellent for Real Madrid since coming back from injury and is probably in better "form" than Rogers is.
If it were being done on form, Bellingham should probably have been in instead of Rogers against Serbia.
So he deserves his place in the side now then. But, as one pundit on 5Live put it earlier "he has got to be in the squad and team for the USA". Which disregards the next 7 months in favour of who he is.
Rogers would have scored that.Yeah, but the pitch was at fault,not Bellingham's gawky playing style
Just worked out Bellingham's shtick: run into players,fall over,claim free kick.
And so far.Bellingham has been gash so far
Thought that too.
Swapping shirts at half time should be a yellow card offence :-)
Hope DimTim has found somewhere else to post so he can roll out his Bellingham hatred….who am I kidding, hope he’s shouting at a mirror instead :-)
If you are referring to me, I don't hate Bellingham, far from it but I hate automatic picks of which he, and others like Foden are often touted as, to the teams detriment.
Please tell me Dan Burn is going to be nowhere near the squad come USA?
Swapping shirts at half time should be a yellow card offence :-)
Hope DimTim has found somewhere else to post so he can roll out his Bellingham hatred….who am I kidding, hope he’s shouting at a mirror instead :-)
If you are referring to me, I don't hate Bellingham, far from it but I hate automatic picks of which he, and others like Foden are often touted as, to the teams detriment.
Excellent John 😂Please tell me Dan Burn is going to be nowhere near the squad come USA?
I think he gets picked for his speed technical skills and versatility
Love it. You forgot his Pau like passing nous.Excellent John 😂Please tell me Dan Burn is going to be nowhere near the squad come USA?I think he gets picked for his speed technical skills and versatility
Please tell me Dan Burn is going to be nowhere near the squad come USA?
Just worked out Bellingham's shtick: run into players,fall over,claim free kick.
He's a poor man's Finn Azaz.
He’s just been carded and is whinging like a babby now. Running around the pitch with a smacked arse face.
Please tell me Dan Burn is going to be nowhere near the squad come USA?Dan Burn feels like a throw back to those players from the 60s and 70s who were used as 'enforcers' and just weren't very good at football. He also isn't very good at 'enforcing'.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.sometimes
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.I haven't heard anyone say that they hate Bellingham.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't understand the people who say they don't care about England and that they wish our players wouldn't be picked, and lose their shit when they're not flogged to death for 100 minutes in every single game England play.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
Not a good team player though. Behaved, and in the main performed, like a prat in last Euros I thought
That was a Roy of the Rovers finish to a game of such importance. Great entertainment.
Brilliant, scream here frightened my little girl 😂
The winner eerily reminiscent to Robbie Keane's v Germany in 2002 with Quinn's knockdown.
Azaz changed the game when he went into centre mid.
Bellingham is a fake Brummie, Nose ****** who thinks the sun shines out his arse. He sulks like my 8 year old when he's told he can't have any Robux. I hope he's dropped from the squad and spends the Summer staring at his retired shirt framed on the wall.
Dan Burn is a total liability profiting from the crest of a media wave of lower league player done good. Am I the only one who can see this?
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
Not a good team player though. Behaved, and in the main performed, like a prat in last Euros I thought
I don't particularly disagree but if I'd just come off a season when I'd won the League and Champions League double, been named as the best player in the league (after being the best player in a different league the year before) and had scored a last minute overhead kick to take my country to an international quarter-final, the 20 year old me would have definitely been acting (a) like I was pretty damn special and (b) like a pretty massive twat about how damn special I was
So...I don't really understand the standards that people are expecting him to hold himself to.
I don't really understand the hate for Bellingham. Yes he comes across as arrogant, but he's an absolutely fantastic player.
Not a good team player though. Behaved, and in the main performed, like a prat in last Euros I thought
I don't particularly disagree but if I'd just come off a season when I'd won the League and Champions League double, been named as the best player in the league (after being the best player in a different league the year before) and had scored a last minute overhead kick to take my country to an international quarter-final, the 20 year old me would have definitely been acting (a) like I was pretty damn special and (b) like a pretty massive twat about how damn special I was
So...I don't really understand the standards that people are expecting him to hold himself to.
Sing his praises all you like
But he’s not all that
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
A Pele-esque prediction
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
A Pele-esque prediction
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
A Pele-esque prediction
There's more chance of Norway winning Eurovision than the World Cup.
I do like France Gall. Dana is the only Irish winner that isn't absolutely terrible.
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
A Pele-esque prediction
He used to predict every single team would win it. Except Scotland, he wasn't completely mad.
I do like France Gall. Dana is the only Irish winner that isn't absolutely terrible.
Norway might be a decent dark horse to win the whole thing.
A Pele-esque prediction
He used to predict every single team would win it. Except Scotland, he wasn't completely mad.
Not after he was taken in by Ally in 1978
Most-used England XI in World Cup qualifying:
Pickford; James, Konsa, Burn, Lewis-Skelly; Rice, Anderson; Madueke, Rogers, Rashford; Kane.
Jude Bellingham has actually played the ninth-most number of minutes, but has started only four games to Rogers’ five.
Which England players have featured in all eight games of World Cup qualifying?
Four: Jordan Pickford, Declan Rice, Morgan Rogers and Harry Kane.
Number of England players used in World Cup qualifying:
32, with Morgan Gibbs-White, Ollie Watkins and Trent Alexander-Arnold the three players who have featured only from the subs’ bench.
Best pass completion rate for England in World Cup qualifying:
If we ignore Ollie Watkins’ 100% pass completion rate from three passes (and we will), it’s Ezri Konsa with 96.3%.
Most chances created per 90 for England in World Cup qualifying:
Noni Madueke (2.3) emerges from the pack here, proving why he is an early Thomas Tuchel favourite. But Jude Bellingham is not far behind on 2.2, way ahead of his No.1 rival Morgan Rogers on 1.3
Still keep seeing every journo assuming Stones will start, and a good few still seeming it unthinkable that Rogers will start over Bellingham.
Still keep seeing every journo assuming Stones will start, and a good few still seeming it unthinkable that Rogers will start over Bellingham.
they love their favourites , very loyal
I do like France Gall. Dana is the only Irish winner that isn't absolutely terrible.
Whats another year.
Still keep seeing every journo assuming Stones will start, and a good few still seeming it unthinkable that Rogers will start over Bellingham.
they love their favourites , very loyal
It's more laziness than loyalty. They don't *actually* care who starts.
However, it's also completely possible that all of Guehi, Stones and Bellingham will start and neither Konsa nor Rogers will. It wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world. It also wouldn't definitely be the wrong decision.
You can't take him anywhere.
Literally, it's a static caravan.
Norway will do well until they play England and Konsa puts Haaland in his back pocket and refuses to give him back.
^^ good goal.
https://x.com/avfcstatto/status/1990529063203844103?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
Trouble is bellingham has turned into a massive twat. Look at the problems england had with the characters of the golden generation and how their attitude was as bad as their performances.
Trouble is bellingham has turned into a massive twat. Look at the problems england had with the characters of the golden generation and how their attitude was as bad as their performances.
France left the likes of Ginola and Cantona out of their squad for the 1998 world cup and went on to win it. They had that dude Guivarch up front and Diomede on the wing from memory. Two clearly better individuals left at home. Spain with Raul too.
It would be a monumental call to leave Bellingham out of the WC squad but Tuchel won't shy away from the decision. On the flip side, man management of big names players is where he has had issues before at club level. He wouldn't be an Ancelotti
Trouble is bellingham has turned into a massive twat. Look at the problems england had with the characters of the golden generation and how their attitude was as bad as their performances.
France left the likes of Ginola and Cantona out of their squad for the 1998 world cup and went on to win it. They had that dude Guivarch up front and Diomede on the wing from memory. Two clearly better individuals left at home. Spain with Raul too.
It would be a monumental call to leave Bellingham out of the WC squad but Tuchel won't shy away from the decision. On the flip side, man management of big names players is where he has had issues before at club level. He wouldn't be an Ancelotti
Trouble is bellingham has turned into a massive twat. Look at the problems england had with the characters of the golden generation and how their attitude was as bad as their performances.
France left the likes of Ginola and Cantona out of their squad for the 1998 world cup and went on to win it. They had that dude Guivarch up front and Diomede on the wing from memory. Two clearly better individuals left at home.
This would be helpful given our fixtures against the arse in December https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr7mglv2l1yo
It still amuses that "gooner" and "gooning" now mean something very different.
No Onana in the Belgium squad tonight
I think Flower of Scotland might be my favourite anthem.
Slight strain so precautionary. Knowing our luck 4-6 weeks!No Onana in the Belgium squad tonight
He’s not injured again is he?!
Best ever Scotland goal?
Doakey very much not Okey. Looks like he's fucked his knee. That's shit luck.
Doakey very much not Okey. Looks like he's fucked his knee. That's shit luck.
Hamstring?
What channel is the Scotland match on?
What channel is the Scotland match on?
Their 9 looks good. we should be interested in him.Who's no9?
Scotland need to calm down and keep it tight. Denmark are cutting through them too easily.Spot on
Their 9 looks good. we should be interested in him.Who's no9?
What channel is the Scotland match on?
BBC2.
Ozcan playing for Turkey, who are holding Spain at HT.
Good experience for the boyOzcan playing for Turkey, who are holding Spain at HT.
I had a look earlier, and assumed he'd been dropped from the squad as he wasn't in the five man defence or on the bench.
Didn't think to look in centre midfield where the BBC have him playing.
Ozcan playing for Turkey, who are holding Spain at HT.
I had a look earlier, and assumed he'd been dropped from the squad as he wasn't in the five man defence or on the bench.
Didn't think to look in centre midfield where the BBC have him playing.
Ozcan playing for Turkey, who are holding Spain at HT.
I had a look earlier, and assumed he'd been dropped from the squad as he wasn't in the five man defence or on the bench.
Didn't think to look in centre midfield where the BBC have him playing.
Bastards have added 7 years to him and changed his first name as well!
Good experience for the boyOzcan playing for Turkey, who are holding Spain at HT.
I had a look earlier, and assumed he'd been dropped from the squad as he wasn't in the five man defence or on the bench.
Didn't think to look in centre midfield where the BBC have him playing.
Robertson’ on the line but the Dane is outside.Totally! Shocking decision.
Mcginn hasn’t been effective tonight.partly because Scotland have allowed the Danes to dominate so much. The lack of good Scottish attackers really hurts them.
Mcginn hasn’t been effective tonight.
Oh it’s okay here comes another nose.
This ref is a clownshoe.
Brilliant Ginnyyeah, cos it was barely a foul.
Brilliant Ginnyyeah, cos it was barely a foul.
trueBrilliant Ginnyyeah, cos it was barely a foul.
Makes up for the numerous other ones he hasn't been given previously.
Adams is slower than me. And I’ve been voted Doncaster’s slowest male.
Adams is slower than me. And I’ve been voted Doncaster’s slowest male.
In a must win game one shot in 75 mins isn't very good.
Robertson is passed it.
It was coming
A game bereft of quality, but high on excitement. England reserves beat both of these sadly.
Is there a South Macedonia?
You gotta loff.I am.
Is there a South Macedonia?
Is there a North Britain though?
Is there a North Britain though?
Yes it’s called Scotland
mcginn looks happySo pleased for him
That's the Tienery I remember as a young lad
mcginn looks happySo pleased for him
I’m enjoying this game, light on quality high on drama
That Dane will have nightmares about that scuffed clearance.
Now I'm not....You gotta loff.I am.
The best international break ever. Some incredible matches.
Well done to the Scots and Ireland.
McGrath help SJM when he sees the size of food portions in the US.:D
Glad our dominance finally paid off.May not do any good there, but fair play to Scotland and the supporters I always enjoy them at a major tournament
Brazil will be shiteing themselves. 🏴🏴🏴
Cape Verde, Scotland, it's great to see these countries qualifying for the first time. Brilliant!
Where is mcginn I haven’t seen him in the celebrations?!Glasgow airport,on the way to the Temple bar
Where is mcginn I haven’t seen him in the celebrations?!
He’s needed at Bodymoor Heath at 8 am to watch some videosWhere is mcginn I haven’t seen him in the celebrations?!
He’s far too cool for those dodgy t-shirts
Chuffed for Scotland. They are a poor team with a big heart with only McTommany, our own SJM who’s cleverness got their man sent off and Tierney offering any real quality.I’m pleased for super John Mcginn but they are a bit rubbish. First shot on 4 minutes (great goal), next shot about 70 minutes later. Rode their luck bit like the home game against Greece.
Anyone know the reason for the Baccara singalong?
Anyone know the reason for the Baccara singalong?
We could conceivably have England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland all in the finals next year.
That would be ace.
SJM to lift the World Cup?
Chuffed for Scotland. They are a poor team with a big heart with only McTommany, our own SJM who’s cleverness got their man sent off and Tierney offering any real quality.I’m pleased for super John Mcginn but they are a bit rubbish. First shot on 4 minutes (great goal), next shot about 70 minutes later. Rode their luck bit like the home game against Greece.
Pleased for SJM but will the tough immigration rules in the States give his arse a visa?
Is there a North Britain though?
Yes it’s called Scotland
That's North England.
We could conceivably have England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland all in the finals next year.
That would be ace.
And NI.
SJM “To be honest I thought we were rubbish but who cares”
No chance, England already have won it, well that's what the English media pundits will be saying especially with Jude I couldn't wait to get away from Birmingham City in the sideSJM to lift the World Cup?
That would be amazing, the Scottish-American President handing the trophy over to a fellow Scotsman.
I thought Scotland were atrocious for 75 mins, they seemed completely unable to move off the ball and control any passes made.I think they have been generally crap through qualifying.
Then after that it was brilliant, end to end with fantastic goals and wonderful drama.
Well done Scotland. Pleased for SJM, CD & AD.
Well done Scotland. Pleased for SJM, CD & AD.
Well done Scotland. Pleased for SJM, CD & AD.
🥰
I think Flower of Scotland might be my favourite anthem.
Curaçao become smallest ever nation to qualify with a 0-0 draw away to Jamaica.
Haiti also qualify, first time since 1974, with a 2-0 win against Nicaragua.
Panama are back at the World Cup after twatting El Salvador 3-0.
Suriname blow a chance to qualify with a 3-1 loss in Guatemala but their late goal does see them sneak into the intercontinental playoffs on goal difference, along with the Jamaicans.
The seedings for the Intercontinental Play-Offs are now set, too.
Jamaica, Suriname, Bolivia and New Caledonia enter in the semi-finals with DR Congo and Iraq receiving byes to the final round by virtue of their higher World Ranking.
IT'S TOO EXCITING FOR SLEEPING.
(You know you're an insomniac when even that lunatic Rory isn't logged on).
Hopefully McGinn will be sober enough to play this weekendMy son said both of these things!
It will be the highlight of his career to play for Scotland in the Workd Cup - hope that he does not get any injury between now and next summer and that he has a good World Cup
Thanks Rory.
Chuffed for Scotland. They are a poor team with a big heart with only McTommany, our own SJM who’s cleverness got their man sent off and Tierney offering any real quality.I’m pleased for super John Mcginn but they are a bit rubbish. First shot on 4 minutes (great goal), next shot about 70 minutes later. Rode their luck bit like the home game against Greece.
What a weird take on a great match.
The commentary for the 4th goal was unbelievable...grown men squealing wildly..
Hopefully McGinn will be sober enough to play this weekend
It will be the highlight of his career to play for Scotland in the Workd Cup - hope that he does not get any injury between now and next summer and that he has a good World Cup
I'm coming round to the idea that the injury time clincher, that is the goal to give you a two goal cushion, is the "best" goal in football. All the pent up tension panicking about holding onto the lead and then you make it safe.
I'm coming round to the idea that the injury time clincher, that is the goal to give you a two goal cushion, is the "best" goal in football. All the pent up tension panicking about holding onto the lead and then you make it safe.
Nah, that makes it boring and makes everyone relax. The best one is surely the late winner, that rekindles the hope?
Arsenal to end sponsorship deal with Visit Rwanda - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c3epgezjw8xo
You mean left wingback, I hope!Well done Scotland. Pleased for SJM, CD & AD.As per usual, CD gave his all on the left wing.
Elsewhere last night Leandro Bacuna formerly of this parish captained Curacao to the World Cup as they held Jamaica 0-0 in Kingston. Reggae Boy Steve McClaren resigned after the game.Steve said after the game Rasman we were unlucky and ting.
Elsewhere last night Leandro Bacuna formerly of this parish captained Curacao to the World Cup as they held Jamaica 0-0 in Kingston. Reggae Boy Steve McClaren resigned after the game.
Steve said after the game Rasman we were unlucky and ting.
He did actually say ‘peace out’ in his resignation email, its worth a few seconds of your life to listen to….Steve ‘integrates into any country he worked in’ McLarenElsewhere last night Leandro Bacuna formerly of this parish captained Curacao to the World Cup as they held Jamaica 0-0 in Kingston. Reggae Boy Steve McClaren resigned after the game.Steve said after the game Rasman we were unlucky and ting.
He did actually say ‘peace out’ in his resignation email, its worth a few seconds of your life to listen to….Steve ‘integrates into any country he worked in’ McLarenElsewhere last night Leandro Bacuna formerly of this parish captained Curacao to the World Cup as they held Jamaica 0-0 in Kingston. Reggae Boy Steve McClaren resigned after the game.Steve said after the game Rasman we were unlucky and ting.
Elsewhere last night Leandro Bacuna formerly of this parish captained Curacao to the World Cup as they held Jamaica 0-0 in Kingston. Reggae Boy Steve McClaren resigned after the game.
Steve said after the game Rasman we were unlucky and ting.
He did actually say ‘peace out’ in his resignation email, its worth a few seconds of your life to listen to….Steve ‘integrates into any country he worked in’ McLaren
Having worked in Curacao back in 2002/3, this is no mean achievement, a nation half the population size of Malta. Previously known for the mixer drink, an oil refinery and the main drug traffic route from Venezuela to Europe.
Haiti also qualify, first time since 1974, with a 2-0 win against Nicaragua.
Haiti also qualify, first time since 1974, with a 2-0 win against Nicaragua.
While idly Googling stuff, I learned that the national team of Haiti has some of the best named players this side of Jizz Hornkamp:
Johny Placide
Keeto Thermoncy
Martin Expérience
Duke Lacroix
Duckens Nazon
Don Deedson Louicius
Ruben Providence
Frantzdy Pierrot
Garissone Innocent
Wilguens Paugain
Belmar Joseph
Mondy Prunier
I'm sure it's all to do with terrible slavery-related reasons, but even so. I'd definitely go and watch Duke Lacroix and the Martin Experience do their hot new take on jazz funk.
Meanwhile, intercontinental ones.
New Caledonia vs Jamaica, winners play DRC.
Bolivia vs Suriname, winners play Iraq.
Bolivia would be a dull choice. Mon Surinaq.
Mind you, New Caledonia qualifying while Italy stay home would be hilarious.
ROI draw could have been a lot worse. Away to Czechia, then a home final if they win there. Denmark don't fare well in front of passionate Celts.
Ireland seem to be on a bit of a roll. You never know.
Played six times in three years between 2017 and 2019, but haven't met since. It seems to mostly end in a draw so might be worth practising penalties.
https://www.11v11.com/teams/republic-of-ireland/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Denmark/
Loads and loads of empty seats at the Cov v Albion game.
So Chelsea have just done a ‘Mings in Bruges’ but get away with it.
Ahhh ok, I didn’t know that.Loads and loads of empty seats at the Cov v Albion game.
Sangwell fans are boycotting because of the ticket price. One can only assume it's the same price at all their other away games....
Southampton.five up at half time away at Charlton. Azaz with two.
So Chelsea have just done a ‘Mings in Bruges’ but get away with it.
Yep. Sanchez thought he had kicked off with the way he moved to give an angle.
Coventry ahead now.
So Chelsea have just done a ‘Mings in Bruges’ but get away with it.
Yep. Sanchez thought he had kicked off with the way he moved to give an angle.
It’s ok, Chelsea ain’t it. They can have that one.
https://x.com/peacefulnaturre/status/1992217400838685041?s=46
I reckon Lampard will end up in the England job.
Our old central defender not covering himself in glory.
Our old central defender not covering himself in glory.
Who’s that them? (Sorry, just got up).
How the fuq we lose at Anfield? They're blose
Wolf’s losing.
It would be funny if he was potted this season.
It would be funny if he was potted this season.Didn’t the same happen to Ranierri at the Crisp Munchers?
Slot ain’t making it to Christmas.
They struggle against teams that sit deep and that isn’t us. We are ideal opponents for them. But, on a brighter note, Man C have won 6 of the last 7, lost to guess who?Slot ain’t making it to Christmas.
Just annoying that we got our tactics so wrong the other week, they were there for the taking.
Indeed.Slot ain’t making it to Christmas.
Just annoying that we got our tactics so wrong the other week, they were there for the taking.
Our old central defender not covering himself in glory.
Who’s that them? (Sorry, just got up).
Tuenzebe (sp) Perce.
It has been us when we've needed to. Emery is capable of setting them up like that and has in the past.They struggle against teams that sit deep and that isn’t us. We are ideal opponents for them. But, on a brighter note, Man C have won 6 of the last 7, lost to guess who?Slot ain’t making it to Christmas.
Just annoying that we got our tactics so wrong the other week, they were there for the taking.
Can’t believe Newcastle got away with that penalty without ref going to monitor & Hall not getting a yellow for flinging himself to the ground
It's a sixteen player sport now, tbf. Despite their current position, Newcastle still have Champions League ambitions and top five clubs regularly have £30-£40 million types on the bench.
Barnes was offside anyway. Foden misses an onside opportunity.Can’t believe Newcastle got away with that penalty without ref going to monitor & Hall not getting a yellow for flinging himself to the groundGlad it’s not just me who thought both of those things. Barnes misses sitter.
Can anyone explain how that Newcastle goal was not offside?
Can anyone explain how that Newcastle goal was not offside?
Arsenal while not having to be superb this season find themselves with key rivals being way below their usual standards. They will need to fuck up to a monumental level not to win the league this season.
Can anyone explain how that Newcastle goal was not offside?
They just explained - the defender’s inner arm was keeping him on. Bonkers.
Arsenal could finish the weekend with 9 wins out of 12, 6 points clear, the highest scorers and the best defence. Pretty sure that qualifies as superb so far.
Arsenal could finish the weekend with 9 wins out of 12, 6 points clear, the highest scorers and the best defence. Pretty sure that qualifies as superb so far.
It’s a sub standard PL so far. They’ve no real competition. They’ve only won 2 games by more than 2 goals; Forest and Leeds. Other than that they’ve been good rather than great. Yeh all those stats are true but averaging less than two goals a game to be top when 8 goals came from 2 of their 11 games isn’t superb in my opinion.
He’s so gracious in defeat, Pep.I wish the powers that be would bring him to book for his constant foul gobbing. I mean it's disgusting.Right next to the fourth official.
Said nobody.
Arsenal could finish the weekend with 9 wins out of 12, 6 points clear, the highest scorers and the best defence. Pretty sure that qualifies as superb so far.
It’s a sub standard PL so far. They’ve no real competition. They’ve only won 2 games by more than 2 goals; Forest and Leeds. Other than that they’ve been good rather than great. Yeh all those stats are true but averaging less than two goals a game to be top when 8 goals came from 2 of their 11 games isn’t superb in my opinion.
Gerrard in for Slot just before Christmas.
The top sides are still very good, most of the rest are better than ever which is the difference. It's not substandard at all. the standard is better than ever.
The title is wide open this year.
How the actual fuck did we contrive to lose at Liverpool ?
Agree. A window like last January would see us as very strong contenders for sure.The title is wide open this year.
Is it silly to think we could win it? I don’t think it is, we’d need Ollie to find his shooting boots and go on a hot streak but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility.
This is wonderful
https://x.com/knaggsy097/status/1992371788710609391?s=46
This is wonderful
https://x.com/knaggsy097/status/1992371788710609391?s=46
This is wonderful
https://x.com/knaggsy097/status/1992371788710609391?s=46
AI can be so good
This is wonderful
https://x.com/knaggsy097/status/1992371788710609391?s=46
AI can be so good
No it can't.
This is wonderful
https://x.com/knaggsy097/status/1992371788710609391?s=46
AI can be so good
Ha, I wasn't meaning in medical research or teaching (though I've got scepticism there too, perhaps a bit beyond the scope of this thread). And I wouldn't say 'fantastic'. Like, man. I really wouldn't (but anyway!).
But yes, anyway, can we at the very least label it if we're sharing some godawful clanker slop? And definitely stop with the ChatGPT summaries of Athletic articles etc.
Ha, I wasn't meaning in medical research or teaching (though I've got scepticism there too, perhaps a bit beyond the scope of this thread). And I wouldn't say 'fantastic'. Like, man. I really wouldn't (but anyway!).
But yes, anyway, can we at the very least label it if we're sharing some godawful clanker slop? And definitely stop with the ChatGPT summaries of Athletic articles etc.
6months ago I'd have agreed with you but working with proper tools designed for a specific purpose has made me realise that the slop on the internet is really harming the perception of a tool that can have a huge impact. And by that I mean now, not in some unspecified time in the future.
Where's Louie Barry?
Dury on commentary for the game of the century. Let the hyperbole commence. But first, the fucking awful Norff Landen forevar.Dreadful, isn't it? Coldplayesque.
Draw, please.A bore draw
Draw, please.A bore draw
Draw, please.A bore draw
With suspensions and injuries, ideally.
Booo, Arsenal are winning.
Hurrah, Tottenham are losing.
Booo, Arsenal are winning.
Got to be in the goalie's peripheral,surely?
Frank looks out of his depth at Spurs...
Hell of a goal from Richarlison
They don't count if they don't mean anything. See McGinn, J, Vs Sheffield Wednesday.
They don't count if they don't mean anything. See McGinn, J, Vs Sheffield Wednesday.
And why Van Basten v USSR is still the best for me.
The trophy room is a poorly put together Portacabin but with rich stories.
Maradona in the 86 QF for me. Both goals.Every time.
Eze is an annoyingly good player.
Eze is an annoyingly good player.
Was just thinking the same. He doesn't even have the saving grace of being unlikeable.
On first glance there didn’t appear to be much to warrant a sending off.That was my take
No one but the ref at old trafford would have sent him off.Anfield.
No one but the ref at old trafford would have sent him off.You also just know Yanited will get a penalty.
Well I wouldn't be too disappointed if there are no further goals on this game. 😀
Jack has been great tonight put a real shift in.
Four minutes haha you chumps.plus Fergie time
Amorim has as much imagination as a rock. He is useless. At this level of football, what sort of coach or manager can't adapt to what is going on in front of him? Embarrassing.
Samuel, Cornwall
Let's all laugh at Man U let's all laugh at Man U la la la la
Everton were excellent. Grealish worked really hard and good to see Tim come on and do well towards the and.No we won't: we ALL know deep down that they're lying in wait to ruin our collective footballing Christmas!
Amorin is doing a great job. Long may it continue. Of course on 21st December they'll get a morale boosting win...
Fuck it we'll turn this lot over.
Fuck it we'll turn this lot over.
Manure were utter turd….referee was their man of the match.
Still say with a vaguely competent centre forward and Everton would be around top 7/8
13 league wins in nearly 13 months there, Amorim is such a fraud.
Every time I watch them they get worse. How the f*ck did we turn in that performance at Old Trafford last season? Fernandes and Casemiro don't run in midfield. Mount looks completely finished at this level too, was expecting him to make a big impact when he came on. Great result for Everton, they battled like troopers in the second half.
Every time I watch them they get worse. How the f*ck did we turn in that performance at Old Trafford last season?Doesn't matter how good our manager is or how good our form is, it doesn't matter how shit the opposition are, we will always find a way to lose in Manchester and Wolverhampton, and anywhere to Palace.
Every time I watch them they get worse. How the f*ck did we turn in that performance at Old Trafford last season?Doesn't matter how good our manager is or how good our form is, it doesn't matter how shit the opposition are, we will always find a way to lose in Manchester and Wolverhampton, and anywhere to Palace.
Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.
Ronaldo, 40, was sent off for an elbow to Dara O'Shea's back during Portugal's 2-0 qualifying defeat earlier this month.
Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year.
BBC Sport understands that the fact it was his first red card in 226 international appearances was taken into account.
Ronaldo sat out the match against Armenia on 16 November so will not miss any games in the United States next summer.
A Fifa statement said: "If Cristiano Ronaldo commits another infringement of a similar nature and gravity during the probationary period, the suspension set out in the disciplinary decision shall be deemed automatically revoked and the remaining two matches must be served immediately."
Ronaldo scored five goals in qualifying as Portugal won Group F to reach their seventh straight World Cup.
The 48 teams will find out which group they are in at a draw shown live on the BBC on Friday, 5 December.
Seems like good news for England, potentially bad news for Scotland, Wales, Ireland and NI.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvg84knn2p5o
QuoteCristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.
Ronaldo, 40, was sent off for an elbow to Dara O'Shea's back during Portugal's 2-0 qualifying defeat earlier this month.
Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year.
BBC Sport understands that the fact it was his first red card in 226 international appearances was taken into account.
Ronaldo sat out the match against Armenia on 16 November so will not miss any games in the United States next summer.
A Fifa statement said: "If Cristiano Ronaldo commits another infringement of a similar nature and gravity during the probationary period, the suspension set out in the disciplinary decision shall be deemed automatically revoked and the remaining two matches must be served immediately."
Ronaldo scored five goals in qualifying as Portugal won Group F to reach their seventh straight World Cup.
The 48 teams will find out which group they are in at a draw shown live on the BBC on Friday, 5 December.
Ha ha, just read that Ronaldo bollocks. What a carve up.
Ha ha, just read that Ronaldo bollocks. What a carve up.
Right, I've settled on Marseilles v Newcastle. So it's bound to be shit while the goals fly in elsewhere.
Coventry 2 up now. Both really good goals.
Coventry already 1-0 up away at second-placed Boro.
A win would take them ten points clear at the top. Cracking job Lampard has done with them.
Stoke going well too under Coventry's previous manager
Coventry 2 up now. Both really good goals.
Coventry 2 up now. Both really good goals.
Is our ex RB doing this season, Kesler Hayden?
Coventry 2 up now. Both really good goals.
how is our ex RB doing this season, Kesler Hayden?
Chelsea one up and with a man advantage after a late challenge by Araujo when he was already on a yellow card,
Matt Targett plays for Boro, who knew? Thought he was at Geordies.
Why is rooney a pundit everywhere??? He is useless.
Newcastle going to pieces.That was like our equaliser on Sunday
Estevao with a great second goal for Chelsea. He looks half decent!
I saw that CD!!!
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Makes the point difference from first to second the same as the point difference from second to eighteenth.
At time of writing.
Chelsea three up against Barca and fully deserved, they have swarmed all over Barca and it's been one way traffic all match.
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Makes the point difference from first to second the same as the point difference from second to eighteenth.
At time of writing.
Cov are going up. Score bucketloads
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Makes the point difference from first to second the same as the point difference from second to eighteenth.
At time of writing.
Cov are going up. Score bucketloads
Late heartbreak for Norwich.
Coventry won it?
2-3.4
Makes the point difference from first to second the same as the point difference from second to eighteenth.
At time of writing.
Cov are going up. Score bucketloads
Looks like it. And I know all the reasons why not, but I'm still quite pleased for the insignificant, obsessed little bastards.
They've had enough shit for the last twenty years that they probably deserve a year or two of their heads not being flushed down the toilet.
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
Albion are looking like a relaegation fight rather than a promotion one, which is nice.
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
Lost their main man to Ipswichand team not set up for American lad
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
Lost their main man to Ipswichand team not set up for American lad
Ooft, that's gotta hurt.
Couldn't take too much joy from Maraeille winning. Load of scummy players and always thought De Zerbi seems like s twat too.The summer ‘friendly’ against us showed what a reprehensible group they are.
Yep and Mason Greenwood.
Had a bit of an accident in his jockstrap when faced with an angry Tyrone Mings though.Yep and Mason Greenwood.
That was one of the reasons I didn’t fancy watching that game, horrible bastard.
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
Lost their main man to Ipswichand team not set up for American lad
Ooft, that's gotta hurt.
No choice 10m or zero in Jan.
Hope he gets knacked in the first minute.
How are Norwich doing so badly in the Championship? Shouldn't they be comfortably heading towards an inevitable and tedious promotion/basically doomed to relegation from the Premier League and already planning for next season depending on whether it's an odd or even year?
Lost their main man to Ipswichand team not set up for American lad
Ooft, that's gotta hurt.
No choice 10m or zero in Jan.
Who was that then, and Wh’appen?
^^ Thanks Rob. I’ll watch out for him next time I watch Ipswich. I’ve seen them a couple of times this season and he hasn’t stood out (to me anyway).He's only started 5 games so far and has mostly been a sub.
Edit: just saw his goal from a Philogene cross in last night’s game.
Marseille is a top town with a top vibe, some really rough ultras and one of the most unforgivably employed 'stars' in the game.Marseille itself is great for a summer trip it's got great history and culture. But the football club or at least it's current version is eminently dislikeable. De Zerbi is a grade one asshole and his team reflects his personality. Having a woman beating man baby as an icon kind of sums them up.
Yep and Mason Greenwood.
That was one of the reasons I didn’t fancy watching that game, horrible bastard.
Marseille is a top town with a top vibe, some really rough ultras and one of the most unforgivably employed 'stars' in the game.Marseille itself is great for a summer trip it's got great history and culture. But the football club or at least it's current version is eminently dislikeable. De Zerbi is a grade one asshole and his team reflects his personality. Having a woman beating man baby as an icon kind of sums them up.
Marseille is a top town with a top vibe, some really rough ultras and one of the most unforgivably employed 'stars' in the game.Marseille itself is great for a summer trip it's got great history and culture. But the football club or at least it's current version is eminently dislikeable. De Zerbi is a grade one asshole and his team reflects his personality. Having a woman beating man baby as an icon kind of sums them up.
Marseille's a shithole populated by psychos. I hate it when I have to go there for any reason.
I must be mad but I’m going to watch the We hate da Villa love in derby, tonight
Christ no !!!!!!I must be mad but I’m going to watch the We hate da Villa love in derby, tonight
Going going? I'm all for taking in interesting football matches of a midweek, but that seems a bit masochistic.
Marseille is a top town with a top vibe, some really rough ultras and one of the most unforgivably employed 'stars' in the game.Marseille itself is great for a summer trip it's got great history and culture. But the football club or at least it's current version is eminently dislikeable. De Zerbi is a grade one asshole and his team reflects his personality. Having a woman beating man baby as an icon kind of sums them up.
Marseille's a shithole populated by psychos. I hate it when I have to go there for any reason.
High though the esteem is in which I hold you and your views STM, it's perhaps not surprising to me that we have different kinds of towns we gravitate towards!
I must be mad but I’m going to watch the We hate da Villa love in derby, tonight
The banging at the Baggies game is really annoying.I watching it and I can't see any banging going on
The banging at the Baggies game is really annoying.
I watching it and I can't see any banging going on
The banging at the Baggies game is really annoying.I watching it and I can't see any banging going on
I must be mad but I’m going to watch the We hate da Villa love in derby, tonight
Same here.
Might mute the sound, though.
Marseille is a top town with a top vibe, some really rough ultras and one of the most unforgivably employed 'stars' in the game.Marseille itself is great for a summer trip it's got great history and culture. But the football club or at least it's current version is eminently dislikeable. De Zerbi is a grade one asshole and his team reflects his personality. Having a woman beating man baby as an icon kind of sums them up.
Marseille's a shithole populated by psychos. I hate it when I have to go there for any reason.
High though the esteem is in which I hold you and your views STM, it's perhaps not surprising to me that we have different kinds of towns we gravitate towards!
Well, given where you live, maybe the Marseillais approach to driving isn't as likely to give you PTSD!
😀The banging at the Baggies game is really annoying.
I watching it and I can't see any banging going on
Boink Boink Baggies.
Bayern Munich are massive fannies whenever they play an English team. Which isn't all bad, I suppose.
Bayern Munich are massive fannies whenever they play an English team. Which isn't all bad, I suppose.
Brilliant equaliser now though.
I want all English clubs to win until 5th is definitely ours, then they can all get battered harder than a Mars bar in Govan.
I want all English clubs to win until 5th is definitely ours, then they can all get battered harder than a Mars bar in Govan.
I'd much prefer an extra chance of Champions League footbal. So COYS, Walk On and North London Forever!!!
I'd much prefer an extra chance of Champions League footbal. So COYS, Walk On and North London Forever!!!
I said no! 🥺
They're trying to discover fire by banging pork scratchings together.😁😁😁
Arsenal lead, get in!
Nice to see Spurs getting PSGed. They'd get smashed in the home game too, the massive fannies.
Muani succeeded where Asensio failed though *Vietnam style flashback*
Big Midlands Derby and empty seats everywhere.
I hate playing either of these shitheads but the current villa team would beat these in an 11 vs. their combined 22
Quality is none existent
In a line up I could probably name 3 at most from both teams. In the older days I knew all Albion and Blues players.
Nice to see Spurs getting PSGed. They'd get smashed in the home game too, the massive fannies.
Muani succeeded where Asensio failed though *Vietnam style flashback*
Hold that thought.
Who would Liverpool go for you’d have to wonder…..
Blues have been absolutely fucking shit. So are bound to win.
Not sure why we are routing for English clubs.
We will win the EL and qualify for the CL next season without needing to worry about our league position.
We are going to finish in the top 3 anyway.
If only we had of beat them the other weekend - he might have been at the helm by Friday.Who would Liverpool go for you’d have to wonder…..
Only one man for it. StevieMe
This PSV side look really useful, I like the way they play, especially against Liverpool.
Nice to see Spurs getting PSGed. They'd get smashed in the home game too, the massive fannies.
Muani succeeded where Asensio failed though *Vietnam style flashback*
Hold that thought.
As you were.
Liverpool would be the only club I worry about with Unai, any of the others I don't think he'd want it, but them there's a slight doubt.You're worrying about nothing. There's zero chance Unai Emery will leave us before his contract expires.
4.1. Slot’s a gonna.Emi….Emi what did you do🤷🏽♂️
The Jota death is having an effect here.No need to make excuses for them they are pretty good at that stuff themselves.
Liverpool would be the only club I worry about with Unai, any of the others I don't think he'd want it, but them there's a slight doubt.You're worrying about nothing. There's zero chance Unai Emery will leave us before his contract expires.
I’m worried about them going for Emery.Just said the same thing.
The Jota death is having an effect here.No need to make excuses for them they are pretty good at that stuff themselves.
The Jota death is having an effect here.
The Jota death is having an effect here.
I did think that with his death that a drop off would be acceptable this season, but this is just too much of a dip in form. I think he's in trouble, especially with the money spent. I reckon Iraola will take over from Guardiola if he doesn't renew but I'd nick him if I were Liverpool.
The Jota death is having an effect here.
I did think that with his death that a drop off would be acceptable this season, but this is just too much of a dip in form. I think he's in trouble, especially with the money spent. I reckon Iraola will take over from Guardiola if he doesn't renew but I'd nick him if I were Liverpool.
The Jota death is having an effect here.Nah.
The Jota death is having an effect here.
I did think that with his death that a drop off would be acceptable this season, but this is just too much of a dip in form. I think he's in trouble, especially with the money spent. I reckon Iraola will take over from Guardiola if he doesn't renew but I'd nick him if I were Liverpool.
Glasner maybe a better shout for Liverpool. Let's be honest they'd agree to bring Guehi, Henderson and Mateta for starters
The Jota death is having an effect here.
I did think that with his death that a drop off would be acceptable this season, but this is just too much of a dip in form. I think he's in trouble, especially with the money spent. I reckon Iraola will take over from Guardiola if he doesn't renew but I'd nick him if I were Liverpool.
We spent ages using JJ leaving as an excuse for being crap, a player dying is probably a better one.
The Jota death is having an effect here.
I did think that with his death that a drop off would be acceptable this season, but this is just too much of a dip in form. I think he's in trouble, especially with the money spent. I reckon Iraola will take over from Guardiola if he doesn't renew but I'd nick him if I were Liverpool.
He might have tied the attack together more and might have been an unknown presence in the dressing room, but Slot was also relying last season on a Salah dream season AND every other challenger being poor. You could argue they had to buy Ekitike to replace Jota but so far he is the only signing Slot has made who has actually contributed this season.
I definitely don't ignore that, they have clearly been destabilised by some of the new signings. Slot basically won with Klopp's team and now he's fucking up his own, but the Jota death will also be a factor. We all know elite sport is about percentage points and it will most likely have knocked a couple off for some individuals. How much of an effect is debatable, but it will be there. Robertson showed that with his interview.
Slot is clearly however now doing a shit job.
I haven't seen them using it as an excuse. But regardless, i'm not sure we should be judging how much a friend and team mate dying is having an impact. As I said look at Robertson and that was while with Scotland.
Especially as we spent weeks using JJ going a few hundred miles up the road as a reason for being crap.
Since they befriended Infantino's mate Trump.
Not sure why we are routing for English clubs.
Liverpool would be the only club I worry about with Unai, any of the others I don't think he'd want it, but them there's a slight doubt.
I don't care what is causing it, I just very much like the concept of Liverpool going to shit - preferably the worst definition of 'to shit', and as fast as possible.
I don't care what is causing it, I just very much like the concept of Liverpool going to shit - preferably the worst definition of 'to shit', and as fast as possible.
Not sure why we are routing for English clubs.
Completely off topic, but I always thought it was “rooting” rather than a gerund of route.
Just seen Van Djik's handball. I'm surprised he wasn't given a yellow for it as seemed deliberate and blatant and he didn't seem to have been fouled. Looked more like he had misjudged it and tried to stop it going over him for an easy goal.when I played Sunday league I can honestly say I never saw a stupider handball than that last night. What the fuck was he thinking?? And yes it should have been a yellow for sure but just like Chiesa's professional foul late in the game when PSV had a break on it wasn't given - nothing to do with being in front of the kop though was it...
Slot comes across like a very unlikable, arrogant man. I’d imagine now the results are shite, the players want him gone.definitely had the rabbit in the headlights look about him at the end, eyes flashing everywhere and hint of fear - nothing against him personally but i love seeing them like this.
Not sure why we are routing for English clubs.
Completely off topic, but I always thought it was “rooting” rather than a gerund of route.
Just seen Van Djik's handball. I'm surprised he wasn't given a yellow for it as seemed deliberate and blatant and he didn't seem to have been fouled. Looked more like he had misjudged it and tried to stop it going over him for an easy goal.when I played Sunday league I can honestly say I never saw a stupider handball than that last night. What the fuck was he thinking?? And yes it should have been a yellow for sure but just like Chiesa's professional foul late in the game when PSV had a break on it wasn't given - nothing to do with being in front of the kop though was it...
Just seen Van Djik's handball. I'm surprised he wasn't given a yellow for it as seemed deliberate and blatant and he didn't seem to have been fouled. Looked more like he had misjudged it and tried to stop it going over him for an easy goal.
Was it the year after Klopp won the title that Liverpool went on a similarly dreadful run of results? Patience then saw them pull CL football out of the bag late on. They wont be winning the league this season but they really should turn it around to finish in top 4 again. Sacking a manager a few months after winning the league title by 10 points would be insanity.
Van Dijk does like a whinge doesn't he?
Not always, though. See "Route 66".
Recently arrived Liverpudlian pro golfer working in the pro shop is having hissyfits, cannot believe what is happening. Like spoiled kids they are..
He does have the shirt number 66.
Liverpool fans certainly weren't walking out alone after 80 mins.
Liverpool fans certainly weren't walking out alone after 80 mins.
Celtic losing already in Feynoord.
Celtic losing already in Feynoord.
Now winning 3-1.
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
He was always getting a red for it but it’s a classic case of overreaction from the oppo.
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
He was always getting a red for it but it’s a classic case of overreaction from the oppo.
Sure. But if they’ve done their homework the opposing players will have known he’s got a few wires loose. They got the outcome they might have planned for.
Lyon slaughtering Maccabi to move above us on goal difference. Another two goals and they go top.
Ibrox goes quiet
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
Duran recd card tonight
Fenerbache v Ferencvaros.
Selling him looks like a work of genius.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/XDkhq8us3E
Jhon Duran, just got a straight red for Fenerbache, 3 match ban and misses the game against us. The colossal twat
Duran recd card tonight
Fenerbache v Ferencvaros.
Selling him looks like a work of genius.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/XDkhq8us3E
If that is a 3 game ban does he miss our game?
Fluminense beat São Paulo 6-0 (in the Tricolor derby) to move up to 5th place and guarantee a spot in the Libertadores qualifiers.Not bad for SHA of Rio😘
Fluminense beat São Paulo 6-0 (in the Tricolor derby) to move up to 5th place and guarantee a spot in the Libertadores qualifiers.
9pm BBC 3 tonight Copa Libertadores Final, Flamengo v Palmeiras
9pm BBC 3 tonight Copa Libertadores Final, Flamengo v Palmeiras
The Man U of Brasil v the Celtic of São Paulo. Hon Palmeiras!
why did the bournmth player touch it then for off sideNot sure it was going in
DCL scores, come on Leeds!With his lower left chest again?
From 2 down at HT Albion leading 3-2.
Do not fall apart…………again !!!
ManC ahead useless Leeds twats.
From 2 down at HT Albion leading 3-2.
They're playing Forest tomorrow.
Today has been rubbish.
Today has been rubbish.
At least Tom Stoppard died.
Going to take a guess that Iroegbunam won’t be starting the 2nd half….was weak and poor for goals 2 and 3Meanwhile today Dobbin scores and has an assist.
Today has been rubbish.Sunderland beating Bournemouth was a decent result.
Going to take a guess that Iroegbunam won’t be starting the 2nd half….was weak and poor for goals 2 and 3Total 'mare.
Disallowed, comeback delayed.Comeback back on
How many wide players do Newcadtle need? They have Gordon, Barnes Elanga, Murphy, Ramsey, Willock. Any I've missed?
(https://i.ibb.co/21kvxcLG/600full-the-fast-show-screenshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/21kvxcLG)
Thomas Frank’s career about to go all Graham Potter.
BBC "the two biggest clubs in Brasil face off in Lima..." Not a good start.
Are Palmeiras the goodies or the baddies?
I've always thought of Flamengo as a sort of Man United or Bayern Munich type club.
Spurs putting pressure on Fulham now. They look like scoring an equaliser at the very least.
Spurs putting pressure on Fulham now. They look like scoring an equaliser at the very least.Not in a million years
You can thank me for jinxing a glorious turnaround.
Messi's Inter Miami are the Eastern Conference Champs after thrashing Mandami's New York City 5-1.
Never used to be retaken did they? Just disallowed?
Oh my days, what is that utterly cringe boom boom song they’ve just played after the goal. Hideous.
Oh my days, what is that utterly cringe boom boom song they’ve just played after the goal. Hideous.
Very cringe outfit, Palace. Annoying we keep losing heavily to the them. Like being run over by the venga bus.
Oh my days, what is that utterly cringe boom boom song they’ve just played after the goal. Hideous.
Very cringe outfit, Palace. Annoying we keep losing heavily to the them. Like being run over by the venga bus.
I should have realised Palace were playing Manure with all the rumours about Wharton going to the latter throughout the week.
Palace win would be ideal as I can't see them being a top 5 threat with their squad.
One of the most ludicrous red cards you will see!
Lucas Paqueta owes his team-mates a huge apology for his behaviour.
He is shown a first yellow card for dissent after arguing with the referee following Niclas Füllkrug's foul on Dominik Szoboszlai.
Paqueta then has to be calmed down by his team-mates but is still in the face of referee Darren England, who then produces a second yellow card and then a red.
Paqueta then sarcastically applauds the referee as he walks off the pitch.
Chelsea to win. Need to dream.
Exactly how I am thinking sitting in a back street joint in Bali.Chelsea to win. Need to dream.
That or a draw. It'll be easier to win the title if Arsenal lose today.
Chelsea to win. Need to dream.
That or a draw. It'll be easier to win the title if Arsenal lose today.
Exactly how I am thinking sitting in a back street joint in Bali.
Chelsea to win. Need to dream.
That or a draw. It'll be easier to win the title if Arsenal lose today.
There are other things on my mind but rest of body is not responsive😊As long as that's the only thing on your mind.Exactly how I am thinking sitting in a back street joint in Bali.Chelsea to win. Need to dream.
That or a draw. It'll be easier to win the title if Arsenal lose today.
Chelsea starting to look like a team unfortunately
If that's a red card on review, why wasn't Wolves'
Chelsea starting to look like a team unfortunately
And now their best player misses next 3 games
Chelsea starting to look like a team unfortunately
And now their best player misses next 3 games
If that's a red card on review, why wasn't Wolves'
If that's red why wasn't the one against Kamara? I know the answer - because it's a against a so called "top side".
Cynical I know but you do wander.
Diving, play acting,, petulance, shithousery, words in the refs ear…. This match is ridiculous.
Diving, play acting,, petulance, shithousery, words in the refs ear…. This match is ridiculous.
Agreed. Should be last on MOTD.
Meanwhile, at Ibrox
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That goal should be disallowed for Chelsea fucking Dagger being played
Liverpool at Villa Park the week before would be better, IMO. Unai will have some serious questions to ask if he allows it to drag on to the last day.
That goal should be disallowed for Chelsea fucking Dagger being played
I still haven't forgotten that one match when Lerner era Villa tried that. With that song, in fact.
It's going to be so sweet winning the title at Citeh on the last day of the season.
'It's been a game for warriors.' Lol.
Who dat?'It's been a game for warriors.' Lol.
Vomit inducing from a faux Villa fan and a moron.
Who dat?'It's been a game for warriors.' Lol.
Vomit inducing from a faux Villa fan and a moron.
Meanwhile, at Ibrox🙄
(https://i.ibb.co/7JbKDfgT/RDT-20251130-1733552978547834672544341.png) (https://ibb.co/7JbKDfgT)
Who dat?'It's been a game for warriors.' Lol.
Vomit inducing from a faux Villa fan and a moron.
Alan Smith. IMO. And Peter Dury is an undeniable idiot.
Whenever they are on TV, playing a night game at home, the picture always seems so gloomy. It's like I need to be adjusting the brightness.
Lots of empty seats at Sty Andrew's tonight. I thought they had 60,000 fans clamouring for tickets??Longbridge factory called in the workforce, they need to get the Mini Metros out for the Christmas period
Blues with an xg of 0.09
Whenever they are on TV, playing a night game at home, the picture always seems so gloomy. It's like I need to be adjusting the brightness.
Whenever they are on TV, playing a night game at home, the picture always seems so gloomy. It's like I need to be adjusting the brightness.
Brightness has always been an issue around St. Andrew's.
They’re going up aren’t they.
Citeh 1-0 up at Fulham. Guess who?
All the goals in one game at the moment. Of the other four teams, there has only been 3 shots on target between themNewcastle well on top and have just hit the post, Spurs are useless.
Weren’t Bournemouth second a few weeks ago?
Watching the Spurs game while I err, work - and I have to say they look absolutely dreadful. Newcastle haven't been much better, but there is zero structure or game plan for Spurs that I can tell.
Watching the Spurs game while I err, work - and I have to say they look absolutely dreadful. Newcastle haven't been much better, but there is zero structure or game plan for Spurs that I can tell.
Me and my lad said exactly the same. Too many me, me, me types and not enough team cohesion.
Plus they're generally shite man for man.
Watching the Spurs game while I err, work - and I have to say they look absolutely dreadful. Newcastle haven't been much better, but there is zero structure or game plan for Spurs that I can tell.
Me and my lad said exactly the same. Too many me, me, me types and not enough team cohesion.
I think both of these teams are very average.
Why are VAR looking at this?! On field review ffs. This is ridiculous.
they were pulling each other
What a terrible decision. Funny as against Spurs but a complete travesty.
What a terrible decision. Funny as against Spurs but a complete travesty.
The middle bit is definitely the most important bit of this.
Draw best for usBeat me to it! ;)
The draw is good for us but that pen decision? There would be 5 given in most games if the same scrutinisation was applied.
“He wasn’t looking at the ball” says the commentator, rather difficult when you have a 6ft 7” 16 + stone brute with his arm around your head. Still, never mind.
Wonder how Londonfranky is at the moment?!after city’s 5th goal I was just on my way home, then Iwobi scored so I stayed saw a brilliant fightback for us, two things if we play half as well as that second half for the rest of the season will be fine, and if city defend like that second half they not going to get near Arsenal
Forest had a goal disallowed similar to the one disallowed on Sunday for Wolves. How will the t'aint fairers react to that I wonder?Wolves xg was 0.02
Can I just shock you? I like Leeds United. Despite what I said earlier. At any one time I have nine Leeds United shirts in my house.
I had a bold acca (small stakes) involving Wolves and Burnley wins. I'm very wise.
Penalty to Rangers?
Those auld protestants, up to no good again!
Commentary is sickeningWas going 15ft wide before the deflection
Commentary is sickeningWas going 15ft wide before the deflection
Yep he spannered it.Commentary is sickeningWas going 15ft wide before the deflection
Commentary is sickeningWas going 15ft wide before the deflection
Good goodCommentary is sickeningWas going 15ft wide before the deflection
Rightly given as an OG now.
Caraagher practically cheering Liverpool on.Of course. Come on Sunderland! Leeds too.
Isildur should have wrapped the game up thenWasn't he in Lord of the Rings?
Tonights matches couldn’t have gone any better.
Tonights matches couldn’t have gone any better.
Isildur should have wrapped the game up thenWasn't he in Lord of the Rings?
Strange night.Even DCL scores
West Ham could get something tonight,if Bowen finds his form.
Come on United!
The cockles crew!
A West Ham win will keep ManU out of it, drop Leeds into the bottom 3 and leave Wolves even further from safety. So I expect the bad guys to get a spawny winner.You were saying.
Neville saying Yanitid could go joint fourth. That's fifth then.
West ham united look dire.
Where does Drury get off, reeling off a shopping list of players that Newton Heath could go for in January. Arse kissing prick.The guy is an utter cock.
Drury has just shot his second load.Really. Im surprised they haven't had to take his belt and shoelaces off him with ManUre conceding.
Unai is going to go there isn’t he.
Bournemouth 1-0 up against Chelsea. Lovely.
Saints 1 up
Saints 1 up2
Fuck Brentford, another try twice a season bunch of game-raising twats. West London Wolves.
The Charlton fan taken ill at Pompey earlier has passed away. How sad.
Burnley now down to 10 against the Barcodes from the small town in Scotland.Wide looks very overweight.
Weston super Mare heading into the 3rd round of the cup. The Ollie derby?
Chelsea dropped points, but otherwise shit results in the other games.
Useless, Dirty Leeds are back.
Oh you're bloody useless!!
Former Villa lad Finn Azaz with the goal
Leeds are clearly a bunch of racist bigots with a small city one team mentality.
Everything they ever won was via cheating except for 1991-92.
That We Are Leeds chant is the shittest ever. Their fans should merge with Arsenal so Arsenal can have a song too.
Marching On Together is the best song EVER.
Quite like the look of that Tanaka.
Might be a decent squad option if Leedzzz get relegated again.
Salah has kicked off tonight about his non relationship with Slot
Salah has kicked off tonight about his non relationship with Slot
Marvellous isn't it. Think Slot will get the boot soon. Maybe we can have celebratory fireworks.
I remember Rice talking about him at the start of the season to some interviewer saying he rates him highly. He knows he's onions.He may think he's onions but he's actually Rice.
Mohamed Salah says he feels like he has been "thrown under the bus" by Liverpool and that his relationship with head coach Arne Slot has broken down.
Salah was an unused substitute in Saturday's 3-3 draw at Leeds United - the third straight game the Egypt star has started on the bench.
After the game, the scorer of 250 goals in 420 Liverpool appearances said in an extraordinary interview with journalists: "I think it is very clear that somebody wants me to take all the blame.
"I've said a few times before that I have a good relationship with the manager and now all of a sudden we have no relationship. I don't know why.
"It seems like the club are throwing me under the bus – that's how I feel.
"This club, I will always support it. My kids will always support it. I love the club so much and I always will.
"It [the situation] is not acceptable to me, to be fair. I don't get it. It's like I'm being thrown more under the bus. I don't think I'm the problem. I have done so much for this club. I don't have to fight every day for my position because I earn it. I earned my position."
Salah, 33, scored 29 times in the 2024-25 Premier League as the Reds won the title in Slot's first season in charge.
However, he has struggled for form since as Liverpool have been unable to match the heights of last term.
Salah, who was brought to the club from Roma by Jurgen Klopp in 2017, has scored just four times in 13 top-flight appearances this season.
Sources have told BBC Sport that the Saudi Pro League remains interested in Salah, who signed a new two-year Liverpool contract in April. They have indicated that Al-Hilal, managed by Simone Inzaghi, are among the teams keen on Salah.
After the Leeds game - when Liverpool led 2-0 and then 3-2 before conceding a 96th-minute equaliser - Liverpool boss Arne Slot told Sky Sports why he did not use Salah at Elland Road.
"It was more about controlling the game [at 3-2] and we didn't need a goal," said Slot. "Normally when you need a goal, like last week against Sunderland, I brought Mo on."
Speaking at his pre-match news conference on Friday, Slot said he understood the talk surrounding Salah after being dropped from the team.
"The chatter, yes, because he deserves that, he has been so influential for me and [for] six or seven years. It's completely normal people talk about it when he isn't playing," added Slot.
Salah, third on Liverpool's all-time list of scorers behind Ian Rush (346) and Roger Hunt (285), made his most recent start in the 4-1 Champions League home defeat by PSV Eindhoven on 26 November.
Salah has kicked off tonight about his non relationship with Slot
Marvellous isn't it. Think Slot will get the boot soon.
Elliot back to Liverpool, Salah to Villa.This windows RASHFORD....lovely...
Everyone's happy.
(Except Liverpool and quite probably Salah but, pfft, who invented the bloody league?)
Given he’s agitating for a move, I’d say this reduces Liverpools ability to charge an above market price.
I think Salah's statement is pretty pathetic.
Given he’s agitating for a move, I’d say this reduces Liverpools ability to charge an above market price.It will be a face saving amount with add ons.
But perhaps not if the alternative is having Salah around playing his mouth in the background.
That actually might be what this little spat is about - who gets the lion’s share of the Saudi windfall - Liverpool, or Salah?
West Ham look very improved under nuno. That’ll be a tough game next week.
Somebody will need to explain this weeks interpretation of the handball rule.I haven’t a clue anymore
Somebody will need to explain this weeks interpretation of the handball rule.
Brighton equalise, which is fine.
No idea what that is. So no. I must admit I have seen players coached to keep arms next to their body through fear that away from the body meant it was handball and yet that one was away from the body and deemed ok. If they’re going to roll dice in decision making just make that clear.
touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
When I see an interview with Daniel Farke it always freaks me out a bit, in my head this fella should sound more like Sean Dyche.
When I see an interview with Daniel Farke it always freaks me out a bit, in my head this fella should sound more like Sean Dyche.
Farke always reminded me of this guy from Star Wars: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cassio_Tagge
Hearts 2 up at Celtic . If the fans weren’t grumpy before they certainly are now
Hearts 2 up at Celtic . If the fans weren’t grumpy before they certainly are now
Celtic's new manager looks completely bewildered.
Hearts 2 up at Celtic . If the fans weren’t grumpy before they certainly are now
Celtic's new manager looks completely bewildered.
He likes a magnet Board i have one of them 💪😃
Hearts 2 up at Celtic . If the fans weren’t grumpy before they certainly are now
Celtic's new manager looks completely bewildered.
Maccesfield have reached the FA Cup 3rd round for the first time ever.
No idea what that is. So no. I must admit I have seen players coached to keep arms next to their body through fear that away from the body meant it was handball and yet that one was away from the body and deemed ok. If they’re going to roll dice in decision making just make that clear.
It pretty much is clear.Quotetouches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
In this case, and with his signals to the West Ham players, the ref had aleady seen it and deemed it accidental, so VAR didn't have much they could do at that point. The really stupid part is if Rutter had scored from that first attempt, it would have been disallowed. So Areola making a tremendous save actually cost West Ham 2 points.
If Wolves put in a performance like they did against us, I reckon they could get at least a point against Man Utd tonight. Wouldn't begrudge Wolves a point as I always love it when Man Utd drop points and Goldbridge has a fit.I wouldn’t be averse to Wolves bridging the gap tonight.
Fingers crossed.
Talkshite full of the Villa's steady rise into the CL places, after beating the PL favourites on Saturday.
Only joking, they're wailing over the national tragedy of Liverpool's current mid table position and Mo Salah's form.
If Wolves put in a performance like they did against us, I reckon they could get at least a point against Man Utd tonight. Wouldn't begrudge Wolves a point as I always love it when Man Utd drop points and Goldbridge has a fit.
Fingers
Pretty much has been the same for most of football. How many penalties are given for fouled players who stayed standing compared to how many who threw themselves to the floor?
Hearing carragher turning on salah is hilarious
It has been 226 days, three managers, two sporting directors, one technical director and 37 goals conceded since Wolves last won in the Premier League.
For the one an only time, I wouldnt mind the dingles winning tonight.
For the one an only time, I wouldnt mind the dingles winning tonight.
Agreed, although looking at the stands, they have stayed down the haulage yard.
For the one an only time, I wouldnt mind the dingles winning tonight.
Agreed, although looking at the stands, they have stayed down the haulage yard.
Wolves fans are singing swear words about chairman Jeff Shi.
Good lord, what a shambles.
Oh we did. We realky did. Nice to see it happen to one of our nearest and dearest.You are right of course…..I think I’ve been able to erase the nightmares
Good lord, what a shambles.
Aly Cissokho was ace. Really ace.
Well done wolves!Custard suits them quite well
Why don’t they wear old gold instead of tangerine?
Well done wolves!
Why don’t they wear old gold instead of tangerine?
Bye bye Wolves, bye bye TNT. I'm off to wash me hair.
Mason Mount should be first name in the squad for the world cup he's that fantastic
Could Wolves actually go a whole season without a win? They're certainly giving it a go.
They are away to Arsenal next. They will get trashed by them I reckon.
Keown has just given the motm to Odegaard.
According to one pundit I heard the other weekMason Mount should be first name in the squad for the world cup he's that fantastic
Says absolutely no one.
According to one pundit I heard the other weekMason Mount should be first name in the squad for the world cup he's that fantastic
Says absolutely no one.
According to one pundit I heard the other weekMason Mount should be first name in the squad for the world cup he's that fantastic
Says absolutely no one.
Controversial, but I reckon Mount would excel as one of Emery’s advanced midfielders in his box system.
According to one pundit I heard the other weekMason Mount should be first name in the squad for the world cup he's that fantastic
Says absolutely no one.
Controversial, but I reckon Mount would excel as one of Emery’s advanced midfielders in his box system.
Wolves are deep in the death spiral now, I almost feel sorry for them.After being continuously told to Mind the Gap for 3 years I can have little sympathy.
Then I get over it.
Wolves are deep in the death spiral now, I almost feel sorry for them.
Then I get over it.
National Express have got a few decent coaches, they could park the bus and hopeWolves are deep in the death spiral now, I almost feel sorry for them.After being continuously told to Mind the Gap for 3 years I can have little sympathy.
Then I get over it.
A championship team with Premier Leagie wages. They need a miracle coach from somewhere.
Wolves are deep in the death spiral now, I almost feel sorry for them.All that ‘mind the gap’ nonsense from them has blown away any sympathy I might have had. I can only think of one club with a more deluded fan base than Wolves.
Then I get over it.
Nailed it. Fuck'em.Wolves are deep in the death spiral now, I almost feel sorry for them.All that ‘mind the gap’ nonsense from them has blown away any sympathy I might have had. I can only think of one club with a more deluded fan base than Wolves.
Then I get over it.
Soton 3-0 up at home to West Brom.
SHA losing at QPR.
Commentary don't know the fucking rules. Handball, no goal.
Blues look bang average. Mid-table team. The first SOTV chant started just 4 minutes after kick-off! A bunch of morons.....Nah……we can’t use that to beat them with. We are just as bad.
Ffs St Gilloise don't let that prick score.
Watching Liverpool I’d rather have a not quite fit Ollie Watkins than Alexander Isak. He’s not looking too good.
SHA losing at QPR.1 shot in 65 minutes, 0 on target.
Watching Liverpool I’d rather have a not quite fit Ollie Watkins than Alexander Isak. He’s not looking too good.
On the flip side, anyone else think Ekitike looks quality?
Watching Liverpool I’d rather have a not quite fit Ollie Watkins than Alexander Isak. He’s not looking too good.
On the flip side, anyone else think Ekitike looks quality?
Watching Liverpool I’d rather have a not quite fit Ollie Watkins than Alexander Isak. He’s not looking too good.
On the flip side, anyone else think Ekitike looks quality?
Yep
Spending so much on Chris Isak after signing Ekitike who does look very good is impressively, and amusingly, daft.
Hahahahaha noses.
If they're going to start giving penalties for that then there'll be cricket scores all over the shop - if that was a penalty I'm a fucking banana.
I’m very glad we weren’t successful in our supposed pursuit of Thuram.
If they're going to start giving penalties for that then there'll be cricket scores all over the shop - if that was a penalty I'm a fucking banana.
Last minute winners…..always the best
https://x.com/JayVtid/status/1998514108719874214 (https://x.com/JayVtid/status/1998514108719874214)Everytime I see highlights of theirs, that keeper seems to be some sort of hologram.
Typical AI and hands, sha fan doesn't have enough fingers.
Preferred our players celebration. If removing a shirt when celebrating is a booking, what do you get for removing your shorts? A wolf whistle?
Ajax already losing to the carrier bags. Could well finish 0-8 in the Chumps league.
The Scouse Fraud is a total cock; nothing to say that adds any value. You can see why he 'lost the dressing room'.
Feels a bit dirty wanting the English teams to win but we need to make sure that fifth CL place is available next season should we need it. Speaking of which, Newcastle need to pull their finger out, they bloody owe us.
Come on you horse punching twats!
Rudiger is a liability for Real Madrid. Stupid challenge in the first half giving away a penalty, then another challenge just which should've been a second yellow. Zero discipline.
Lyon 1-0 up against Didn't Go-Ahead Eagles. Hopefully the match goes the same way as ours after our early goal.
Edit: And GOE level already.
This Celtic manager already looks finished.
Leon Bailey scores Roma's fourth at Celtic.
Robbie Keane's Ferencváros beat Rangers 2-1. He might have enjoyed that one.
Robbie Keane's Ferencváros beat Rangers 2-1. He might have enjoyed that one.
Rangers might not be right wing enough for Robbie.
This Albion game is turgid.
This Albion game is turgid.
My mate left the pub earlier for the game, trudged away with the gait of a man off to the gallows.
This Albion game is turgid.
This Albion game is turgid.
My mate left the pub earlier for the game, trudged away with the gait of a man off to the gallows.
He’ll have enjoyed it I’m sure. They’re winning 2-0.
This Albion game is turgid.
My mate left the pub earlier for the game, trudged away with the gait of a man off to the gallows.
He’ll have enjoyed it I’m sure. They’re winning 2-0.
Not sure;
"Alright Dan?, good win the other night"
"Wim still shit!"
"Oh"
Liverpool 1-0 up (Ekitike).Fucking awful from the Brighton defender that cleared across his own penalty area.
Breaking news on BBC News channel. Salah has just come off the bench and made an immediate impact.He's come off the bench I'll grant you, but immediate impact????????
I'm sure we're all relieved about the state of the world knowing that Salah is on the pitch for Liverpool.
I'll sleep easier tonight.
Breaking news on BBC News channel. Salah has just come off the bench and made an immediate impact.He's come off the bench I'll grant you, but immediate impact????????
I'm sure we're all relieved about the state of the world knowing that Salah is on the pitch for Liverpool.
I'll sleep easier tonight.
After a good start, Grealish appears to be more Man City grealish, than Villa Grealish. Or am I being unfair?
Not my words. That's what they said on the BBC News channel when they reported this momentous event.
With Wolves and Burnley doomed who do we want to take the third relegation place?
With Wolves and Burnley doomed who do we want to take the third relegation place?
Manure.
Just watched the goals from the Sty this afternoon……it’s quite staggering how many empty seats there appeared to be.Christmas do down the Austin Social club
Are they all on nights at the rover still ?
Wolves done ok.Arsenal look flat.If only Strand Larsson was a footballer not a piece of planed timber.In the right team, I think Strand Larsson would be good striker
Kewford Eagles under 10s?Wolves done ok.Arsenal look flat.If only Strand Larsson was a footballer not a piece of planed timber.In the right team, I think Strand Larsson would be good striker
Wolves done ok.Arsenal look flat.If only Strand Larsson was a footballer not a piece of planed timber.In the right team, I think Strand Larsson would be good striker
Wolves done ok.Arsenal look flat.If only Strand Larsson was a footballer not a piece of planed timber.
Arse will still edge this 2-0.
Checks poster. Doesn’t feel surprised.
And they show you how misleading they can be. If anyone believes the Wolves number 9 is better than ours then they need help.Checks poster. Doesn’t feel surprised.
True but still, stats is stats.
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Fuckin norra.
Kiss of deathSam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Fuckin norra.
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Fuckin norra.
You couldn’t keep quiet could you Steve? Jinxed
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Fuckin norra.
You couldn’t keep quiet could you Steve? Jinxed
I am posting this from the naughty step.
Sam Johnstone is a very competent keeper.
Fuckin norra.
You couldn’t keep quiet could you Steve? Jinxed
They bottled it last week at Villa Park.
I don’t think they have the mental strength it takes to win the league.
Wolves are damned.
Wolves are damned.
we had a few games like this the season we went down, where we looked ok and there were signs that things might be turning around and then we'd get a gut punch and be back to square one but with the confidence chipped away just that bit more.
They bottled it last week at Villa Park.
I don’t think they have the mental strength it takes to win the league.
Drew at home to Man City and eventual champions Leicester that seasonWolves are damned.
we had a few games like this the season we went down, where we looked ok and there were signs that things might be turning around and then we'd get a gut punch and be back to square one but with the confidence chipped away just that bit more.
True dat.
Painful memories.
Christ - didnt we ever that season went on for about 3 yearsWolves are damned.
we had a few games like this the season we went down, where we looked ok and there were signs that things might be turning around and then we'd get a gut punch and be back to square one but with the confidence chipped away just that bit more.
Charlton fan not impressed by Small Heath's support:
https://x.com/MrDinnage/status/1999954819596042681 (https://x.com/MrDinnage/status/1999954819596042681)
Why the fuck is Sunderland-Newcastle same time as Villa? I wouldn't have minded watching that. Local derbies are supposed to kick off at 12.
Great lads
Woltemade scores again...this time for Sunderland. 1-0 to the mackems
As an Arsenal fan, I'd love Pep as manager, he's rebuilt this side in less than two years to look competitive. Whilst we have had six years of small improvements and turgid football
Buddies back in front.3-1 now.
Congrats St Mirren! Has that new manager won one at Celtic yet?
1-1 DCL
Bologna v Juventus about to kick off. It's been 28 games since Bologna last beat Juventus.
All was not well in Newcastle after their loss to Sunderland
https://x.com/the_forty_four/status/2000308053007327469?s=46
All was not well in Newcastle after their loss to Sunderland
https://x.com/the_forty_four/status/2000308053007327469?s=46
All was not well in Newcastle after their loss to Sunderland
https://x.com/the_forty_four/status/2000308053007327469?s=46
what that all aboot ?
All was not well in Newcastle after their loss to Sunderland
https://x.com/the_forty_four/status/2000308053007327469?s=46
what that all aboot ?
Someone said something off colour about Mutha Bacons new mascara.
Someone trying to avoid buying his/her round?
Blimey, MNF is all about Carra going over Liverpool. Why don’t they just give them their own channel.
Why do people watch the build-up to matches not involving Villa, and then get annoyed if they don't mention Villa? It would be like me attending the Reform Party conference and then complaining when they don't dedicate hours to discussing the merits of Dialectical Marxism.
Why do people watch the build-up to matches not involving Villa, and then get annoyed if they don't mention Villa? It would be like me attending the Reform Party conference and then complaining when they don't dedicate hours to discussing the merits of Dialectical Marxism.
Why do people watch the build-up to matches not involving Villa, and then get annoyed if they don't mention Villa? It would be like me attending the Reform Party conference and then complaining when they don't dedicate hours to discussing the merits of Dialectical Marxism.
The hour before k.o is used to review the weekends talking points, it was mainly about Liverpool, the actual match only builds up 15mins or be for the match….but you prob already know this,
Yanited 1-0 up. Coming into form just in time for next weekend's game.
Fcuking Neville desperate for VAR not to disallow the goal. Can the VAR people hear these commentators?!
Mount should be the first player on the England plane next summer. He’s had three good games.Ok Mr Southgate.
I’m glad that Amad is going to Afcon.
I like that Scott at bournemth
Casemero out of Villa match.
Casemeiro suspended for our game.
Although we know they could do a raffle and pick 11 random fans to play against us and we'll still contrive to gift them points.
Casemeiro suspended for our game.This will not happen. The Prince of Darkness will not allow it!!
Although we know they could do a raffle and pick 11 random fans to play against us and we'll still contrive to gift them points.
That keeper is as good as Onana.
Gary Neville blaming the goalkeeper for not getting across to Tavernier's shot - it was Fernandes that jumped over the shot, if he'd stayed on the ground he would have blocked the shot. Couldn't happen to a more whingeing player !
Gary Neville blaming the goalkeeper for not getting across to Tavernier's shot - it was Fernandes that jumped over the shot, if he'd stayed on the ground he would have blocked the shot. Couldn't happen to a more whingeing player !I thought it was Cunha that turned his back on it, but could be wrong.
Mainoo will play on Sunday unless he gets injured or sent off 🙏
Mainoo will play on Sunday unless he gets injured or sent off 🙏
Gary Neville blaming the goalkeeper for not getting across to Tavernier's shot - it was Fernandes that jumped over the shot, if he'd stayed on the ground he would have blocked the shot. Couldn't happen to a more whingeing player !And the fucker had the cheek to moan at everyone else as usual.
What a shocking and typical Old Trafford decision from the referee there.And not mentioned in the commentary
What a shocking and typical Old Trafford decision from the referee there.And not mentioned in the commentary
so VAR disnt look at the free kick?Can't get involved.
It does slightly irk me that given our years of pain at the hands of these twats, the flukey late goals, the leads we've thrown away etc that the likes of Bournemouth can just rock up there year after year and win almost by accident.
fcuk off neville you horrible tit
Keown?fcuk off neville you horrible tit
There isn’t a more one eyed prick commentating on a national broadcast.
so VAR disnt look at the free kick?Can't get involved.
Fucking Neville needs to be taken off their games, there's no longer even a pretence of neutrality.
I cheered that fuckerSo did I.
We get Jon Champion and Jim Beglin. I don't like either to be honest. Jon Champion always sounds like he's summarising something that happened yesterday, rather than commenting live. And Beglin is Beglin.
That's fucking terrible defending.They haven't got a decent CB to my mind.
We have the last one they hadThat's fucking terrible defending.They haven't got a decent CB to my mind.
Get in Bournemouth. Please hold on now.
Apart from Keown and carragher
We can put 6 past these fukkers on Sunday
We can put 6 past these fukkers on Sunday
6? I’ll be disappointed with less than double figures. There’s no way this time they are going back with anything less than an absolute twatting.
8 minutes to be added you can bet.Where does 8 come from?
8 minutes to be added you can bet.not if Utd score in the next 2
8 minutes to be added you can bet.
Into Fergie time as we speak. 8 added minutes so expect at least 10
entertaining game for the neutral
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
It’s been a great game, Neville commentating is grating though.
Corrrupt Cnut adding two more minutes.
Corrrupt Cnut adding two more minutes.And Bmouth could have scored twice in those 2 minutes.
And it's fully deserved. We have had to suffer so many times at the hands of these assholes. Going right back to Fergie time which snatched the title from us in 95 right through till last season at Old Toilet when we had a perfectly good Morgan Rogers goal ruled out. The list of wrong doings at our expense is massive so yes I hate the bastards with every fibre of my being and I'm not ashamed to say it. An absolute steaming pile of dog turd of a football club.entertaining game for the neutral
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
It’s off the scale hate mate.
And it's fully deserved. We have had to suffer so many times at the hands of these assholes. Going right back to Fergie time which snatched the title from us in 95 right through till last season at Old Toilet when we had a perfectly good Morgan Rogers goal ruled out. The list of wrong doings at our expense is massive so yes I hate the bastards with every fibre of my being and I'm not ashamed to say it. An absolute steaming pile of dog turd of a football club.entertaining game for the neutral
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
It’s off the scale hate mate.
Title in '95?94 then? I dunno I'm going off memory I try not to Google everything but I'm sure you know the situation I'm referring to?
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
Just watching the post match analysis and for United's third goal still no mention of the fact that as good as Fernandes free kick was it was never a free kick to begin with.
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
Fully deserved, too many heart-wrenching defeats over the years. I still hate Liverpool more though.
Just watching the post match analysis and for United's third goal still no mention of the fact that as good as Fernandes free kick was it was never a free kick to begin with.
entertaining game for the neutral
judging by some of the posts not alot of love for man utd on here !
Yep. Prefer Blose supporters to Brummie Man U/Liverpool fans. Civic Quislings with no sense of shame.
Casemiro is suspended for our game on Sunday. I assume that's good? Don't pay much attention to the rabble they populate their squad with these days.
Casemiro is suspended for our game on Sunday. I assume that's good? Don't pay much attention to the rabble they populate their squad with these days.
People don’t rate him but they’ve lost 7 of their last 8 games without him!
Yep. Prefer Blose supporters to Brummie Man U/Liverpool fans. Civic Quislings with no sense of shame.
Spot on.
Brummie Reds are the absolute lowest of the low, scum, there is no excuse for them. Rats.
Casemiro is suspended for our game on Sunday. I assume that's good? Don't pay much attention to the rabble they populate their squad with these days.
People don’t rate him but they’ve lost 7 of their last 8 games without him!
I don't rate him because he's a dead ringer for a Cuban lad I used to play football with. Ernesto was a Real Madrid fan who fancied himself as a bit of a baller. In reality, he was a lazy, podgy, gutless, fancy dan, who always went missing as soon as someone put a reducer on him.
There's 4 articles on the top of sky sports website proclaiming how great they are for drawing 4-4 with Bournemouth. I really, really, really, really hope we funeral them.I wonder if any of them are able to recognise that we also scored 4 against Bournemouth - but without the letting in 4 bit as well.
There's 4 articles on the top of sky sports website proclaiming how great they are for drawing 4-4 with Bournemouth. I really, really, really, really hope we funeral them.I wonder if any of them are able to recognise that we also scored 4 against Bournemouth - but without the letting in 4 bit as well.
Only seen the first half. Yes, it was an entertaining game of football with two sides slugging it out. Unai would have been shaking his head at the lack of energy conservation from both teams with just 1 point gained for all their effort.
I don't rate him because he's a dead ringer for a Cuban lad I used to play football with. Ernesto was a Real Madrid fan who fancied himself as a bit of a baller. In reality, he was a lazy, podgy, gutless, fancy dan, who always went missing as soon as someone put a reducer on him.
But it's Christmas. Can't you unproject and give Casemiro a break for the holiday season?
Talksport
Fernandes making noise at Yanited, hopefully they will drop him for Sunday.sadly he hasn’t gone for the manager, just everyone else.
Inverness go ballistic again. They win 9-0 away from home against Dumbarton in the cup.
Inverness go ballistic again. They win 9-0 away from home against Dumbarton in the cup.
McKeown out ! Oh hang on, he's only been in the job for 11 days.
Penalties in the Intercontinental Final, PSG vs Flamengo.
And PSG win, Flamengo missed four of their five penalties. Still no non-European winner since 2012.
https://macclesfieldfc.com/latest-news/ethan-mcleod-2004-2025/
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Presumably UEFA are horrible anti-semites.
Maccabi Tel Aviv given suspended one-match away fan ban - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c14v5pdn5xyo
looks pretty empty at Man City
Such a bad fit for JJ. Needs a different club
Such a bad fit for JJ. Needs a different club
#bringhimhomeSuch a bad fit for JJ. Needs a different club
Maybe a club closer to home who he could go on loan too. Maybe they can cover his wages, are in a different European competition and get some game time and less competition for places in attacking roles. Especially if said club sends 2 other loanees back to parent club.
A club like that you mean.
Celtic losing 2-1 to Dundee Utd.
Celtic losing 2-1 to Dundee Utd.
Such a bad fit for JJ. Needs a different club
Looking at Wilfred Nancy football career, it's mind boggling,it makes Steve Gerrard look impressive
Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Yes but at least our Top 4 rivals will have two or three extra games to play now.
True this is the game we are in now.Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Yes but at least our Top 4 rivals will have two or three extra games to play now.
Agreed, plus Newcastle didn't have extra time before facing Chelsea early on Saturday.
Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Yes but at least our Top 4 rivals will have two or three extra games to play now.
Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Yes but at least our Top 4 rivals will have two or three extra games to play now.
Agreed, plus Newcastle didn't have extra time before facing Chelsea early on Saturday.
Another season to ignore in the League Cup
Yes but at least our Top 4 rivals will have two or three extra games to play now.
Agreed, plus Newcastle didn't have extra time before facing Chelsea early on Saturday.
Just checked, Jaudis at home, fancy them for that. I wouldn’t be hopeful were they away.
Fingers crossed for Everton at home to Arsenal, they’ve got a thug’s chance in that one.
Guessing Ndiaye is one of them? He's a cracking player.
While I don't ever want English teams to do well in Europe, it's utterly bollocks that Palace are being punished for their own success and forces to play a bunch of reserves tonight, because the authorities were incapable of conceiving the possibility that a Conference League team might make the quarter-finals of the League Cup and planning accordingly.
Either way, they are still weaker than they would otherwise be because of the league/league cup organisers being idiots. They shouldn't be put at any disadvantage, especially when the league didn't mind inconveniencing us to help Tottenham have more preparation time last season.
Palace are now 2-1 down to KuPS.
Palace are now 2-1 down to KuPS.
Palace are now 2-1 down to KuPS.
That'd be a poor result against a parcel delivery firm.
Either way, they are still weaker than they would otherwise be because of the league/league cup organisers being idiots. They shouldn't be put at any disadvantage, especially when the league didn't mind inconveniencing us to help Tottenham have more preparation time last season.
I don't really follow. Are you suggesting that all this would be fine if Palace were playing Wednesday instead of Tuesday?
And if they were playing on Wednesday then tonight they'd be playing their already overplayed, pared-to-the-bone first team instead?
Or have I misunderstood you, and there's some other time that Palace's insufficient squad should play their League Cup game?
Either way, they are still weaker than they would otherwise be because of the league/league cup organisers being idiots. They shouldn't be put at any disadvantage, especially when the league didn't mind inconveniencing us to help Tottenham have more preparation time last season.
I don't really follow. Are you suggesting that all this would be fine if Palace were playing Wednesday instead of Tuesday?
And if they were playing on Wednesday then tonight they'd be playing their already overplayed, pared-to-the-bone first team instead?
Or have I misunderstood you, and there's some other time that Palace's insufficient squad should play their League Cup game?
Teams shouldn't be forced to play two games in three days. I'm not sure why that is complicated? They should have organised the fixtures to avoid this possibility.
They went out of their way to help Tottenham and Man U but have punished Palace for being successful.
I don't disagree. But it was the same last year, the authorities have had two seasons to plan for this very likely eventuality.
Reduce the semi-final to one leg if there is no room to play the quarter-final without forcing a team to play two games in three days. Play the league game later in the season. December games get postponed all the time, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Start the league earlier to free up the midweek when we played Brighton for League Cup games. Swap the league and and League Cup midweeks around and arrange that they play a team not in Europe on the league midweek so can be played in the Champions League/Europa League week. Start the League Cup earlier. There are loads of solutions.
Fifty-nine people have been injured following a clash between rival fans at the Colombia Cup final in Medellin.
Violence broke out at Estadio Atanasio Girardot following Atletico Nacional's 1-0 win over local rivals Deportivo Independiente Medellin in Wednesday's second leg. Both teams share the stadium.
Fans invaded the pitch after the final whistle, some armed with flares and fireworks, with riot police deployed to restore order.
Seven police officers were among those injured.
Local newspaper El Colombiano reported serious damage to the stadium, with seats and turnstiles ripped out and sections of the pitch burned, and said the start of the match had been delayed by 14 minutes due to poor visibility resulting from pyrotechnics in the stands.
Medellin mayor Federico Gutierrez condemned the actions of "misfits who only seek to generate violence" and warned there will be consequences for those involved.
"Anyone who went to the stadium to attack, destroy or incite fear will be held accountable under law. We will not allow a few to damage what belongs to everyone," he said.
"For years we've been a beacon of peaceful football in our country and throughout Latin America."
Police commander William Castano told Colombian news channel Teleantioquia that officers had seized weapons, flares and fireworks from spectators at the stadium, including "more than 120kg of pyrotechnic material".
"It was necessary to apply the graduated use of force, to help prevent the occupation of the pitch by the fans, to control outbreaks of public order disturbances, and to guarantee the safety of citizens attending the event," he said.
Speaking to the same channel, Medellin's secretary of security, Manuel Villa, added: "Here, security did not fail; what failed was the behaviour of those who chose violence."
Away fans are usually barred from attending major matches in Colombia to prevent such violence.
Authorities in Medellin had, however, permitted fans from both sides to attend the derby match to promote peace in football.
That's good for us.
Might have to change my Irish team from Galway. 🤔
https://www.waterford-news.ie/sport/soccer/villa-fc-confirmed-as-one-of-15-clubs-to-enter-new-fai-national-league_arid-81606.html
Newcastle look very lively
Am I dreaming or was Jacob Murphy at Portsmouth early in the season?
CheersAm I dreaming or was Jacob Murphy at Portsmouth early in the season?
That’s Josh his brother.
Without tempting fate but beat ManUre tomorrow and we could go to Chelsea on the 27th 8 points clear of them. Who would have thought it?
Looks like we will be getting the Ryton on Dunsmore derby back next season.
My God, how is that not a penalty?Shocking decision
That's a penalty all day longFunny, I didn't it as quite so clear-cut, and Gordon uses excessive force in his challenges: I wonder whether that was taken into consideration.
Incredible they get as many second looks at that as they want and still think it's not a pen
Without tempting fate
Don't fookin lose Newcastle
Harvey fucking Barnes scores from forty yards every time he plays us but can't score a tap in when we are supporting him.Great player. I'd take him for us in a heartbeat.
I feel for Newcastle (not really) denied a clear and obvious penalty. Ah well never mind. Worryingly, Chelsea looked decentish.
Six bookings for Chelsea, any suspensions v us?
Four points dropped by rivals instead of three. The draw is usually the one and will take it.Rivals? Do you honestly think these two have any chance of winning the title?
Oh dear noses down to 10. Horrific studs up challenge.And 2-0 down.
Useless West ham
Oh dear noses down to 10. Horrific studs up challenge.And 2-0 down.
So, I guess they aren’t going to win the league by Christmas then ?
Such is their new found arrogance they want the manager sacked. This despite their squad being the quality of well where they are now. They’ll probably poach Emery.
Rags losing 3-0
You have to be pretty shit for 58 year old Patrick Bamford to score against you.
Such is their new found arrogance they want the manager sacked. This despite their squad being the quality of well where they are now. They’ll probably poach Emery.
Nobody is poaching Emery. The manager job at Chelsea is always a revolving door. Emery has complete control with us. He’d lose all that almost anywhere else at the level we are operating at.
I think it’s by stealth TV.Rags losing 3-0
You have to be pretty shit for 58 year old Patrick Bamford to score against you.
I thought they were taking over the world. No?
Such is their new found arrogance they want the manager sacked. This despite their squad being the quality of well where they are now. They’ll probably poach Emery.
Nobody is poaching Emery. The manager job at Chelsea is always a revolving door. Emery has complete control with us. He’d lose all that almost anywhere else at the level we are operating at.
I think he was talking about the noses
Be nice if anyone else ever beat the top two. Whole league full of useless wankers.Very, very true.
Such is their new found arrogance they want the manager sacked. This despite their squad being the quality of well where they are now. They’ll probably poach Emery.
Nobody is poaching Emery. The manager job at Chelsea is always a revolving door. Emery has complete control with us. He’d lose all that almost anywhere else at the level we are operating at.
I think he was talking about the noses
Oh..my mistake if that’s the case. As you were. Noses will likely expect Pep, Ancelotti or Unai.
He’s gone there because he has a strong connection, it’s a terrible decision though.He could easily have waited until the summer after they were relegated though. No need to take the job now. Such a strange decision
Stupid tackle deserved red.
Spurs have got themselves some really unlikeable players. Obviously Richarlison heads the list but Simons and Spence aren't far behind.
Spurs have got themselves some really unlikeable players. Obviously Richarlison heads the list but Simons and Spence aren't far behind.
Not sure about Spence but I’d add Romero to your list.
Spurs have got themselves some really unlikeable players. Obviously Richarlison heads the list but Simons and Spence aren't far behind.
Not sure about Spence but I’d add Romero to your list.
and the darts player
Romero for that 2nd goal, some of the weakest defensive play you’ll ever see
9 extra minutes! Come on Tottenham lol
Typical Romero. Their captain too.9 extra minutes! Come on Tottenham lol
There's at least one more red card in this for them.
I thought although five subs can be made, they had to be done in three batches tops.
Do the spurs reds mean they miss our game ?
Why did the ref watch that clip that many times? Was he still in doubt after seeing the defender touch the ball with both hands the third time he watched it? It was that clear before VAR was used!He was shocked at his own onfield blindness.
Quiz time - which single senior appearance former Villa player was I watching earlier?
(https://i.ibb.co/PzQw6sqg/20251220-150305.jpg)
Quiz time - which single senior appearance former Villa player was I watching earlier?
(https://i.ibb.co/PzQw6sqg/20251220-150305.jpg)
Dominic Revan?
They are much improved since they’ve lost most of the man buns in the side. I’m surprised how good DCL is playing, he looked really poor when I’ve seen him earlier in the season. It just shows how different some players are when their confidence levels go up. Ollie take note!
Penalty surely.
Penalty surely.
If it was Arsenal of course it would be .
Penalty surely.
If it was Arsenal of course it would be .
Not for me.
Penalty surely.
If it was Arsenal of course it would be .
Not for me.
which one . There is 2 now
Dad, do you think we'll ever play like this against Crystal Palace?
Six bookings for Chelsea, any suspensions v us?
Arsenal aren’t going to win the league!
Not sure what Grealish is doing in this game? Running around everywhere aimlessly, trying to get involved in play.Quite possibly Everton’s best player but he just hasn’t got involved at all tonight. I couldn’t quite work it either.
Given that Arsenal and Man City win every match that isn't against us, one of them will likely win the league. We win every game and never gain on or overtake them. The rest of the league are a gang of shitebags.
Arsenal aren’t going to win the league!
Which means 115 will.
What was the Spurs manager on about? Both red cards and they could have had more!
Worth noting that for all the 'best league in the world' and it's a 'topsy-turvy season' chat, the big five teams are in the top 5 spots as we head to the halfway point.
The demise of wolves is nothing less than hilarious. It’s a shame they aren’t a real rival for us.
I hope, purely for comedy value, they don’t get another point for the rest of the season, and I think it’s highly likely.
What was the Spurs manager on about? Both red cards and they could have had more!
I had some sympathy with him for the Ekitike goal, I thought it was a foul. Bentancur's challenge was reckless though.
Every other team in the league is a bunch of useless fuckers
Arsenal aren’t going to win the league!
Which means 115 will.
Yeah, Citeh look the most likely atm.
I don't quite know why Wilson is so weird about the Villa, but he is distinctly weird. He even missed us out in his history of tactics book, when everybody else on earth acknowledges a) the huge success of early Villa and b) that we got it by being crucial in bringing 'the Scottish game' (i.e. passing) to England. With a) I know he's Sunderland so is more partial to their early success, but I'd really hope it wouldn't be as crude as that from an otherwise generally serious (actually, rather overly serious) writer.
Trez vs Marv, now on channel 4Seven or Channel 4 online.Marv's lot 1-0 up. Apparently Mo Salah is at AFCON as well. Who knew ?
Trez vs Marv, now on channel 4Seven or Channel 4 online.
Marv's lot 1-0 up. Apparently Mo Salah is at AFCON as well. Who knew ?
A rare outing for Doug this evening.
Trez booked for diving. Has this happened before?And it seems Marv hasn't scored since 2016-17. Around 200 games (including internationals) without a goal.
Trez booked for diving. Has this happened before?
Trez vs Marv, now on channel 4Seven or Channel 4 online.
Trez vs Marv, now on channel 4Seven or Channel 4 online.
Signed up for 4 online because the picture quality on ‘4 Seven’ is shit.
What’s the point of non-HD stations
The commentator is a right annoying motor-mouth
He kicked the attackers foot away without getting any connection on the ball. Its a penalty and it would have been 40 years ago as well.I appreciate that it is a penalty today, but it wouldn’t have been 40-years ago. The kick didn’t make him fall over. He wasn’t in control of the ball, he felt the kick and he took the opportunity to throw himself to the ground.
It was a pen all day long.Yes, under current rules of course it is. My point is that it shouldn’t be. I don’t think that making marginal contact with a player who is facing away from goal and who isn’t in control of the ball, should result in an 85% chance of a goal. It’s just not commensurate. Two teams have played for 90 minutes and the game has been decided by that.
I agree Sam. The players are now coached to exaggerate any contact in the area. The issue is I think we are so far passed what was acceptable 30 years ago it is almost impossible to go back.
Senegal playing Botswana now. We need Senegal to make at least the last sixteen, and maybe the quarter-final, to ensure that Villa-hating bastard Sarr can't play against us.
Arse fans starting proceedings with that vomit-inducing 'Nowth Landan fureva'.
'Woolwich'? - isn't that the point?! They're not north London! The creation of the song is a total sham.Arse fans starting proceedings with that vomit-inducing Cfureva'.It's ridiculed by all and sundry and rightly so. Contrived, inaccurate and an attempt to give the club back the identity it lost when they left Highbury. See also sticking a clock at one end of the ground.
My mate's a Stoke fan and told me the tale of a load of their fans in a pub at an away game being threatened with arrest if they kept singing football songs. So they sang Delilah. True or not it's better than Woolwich.
Benitez has lost lot of weight, doing well in Palace goal. Palace should try playing with a right back against Martinelli.
Bloody hell what a shit goal
Ollie would have buried thatMartata was moving like an oil tanker against us he would turned into Usain Bolt.
Is it always wrong to want the Arse to win?
ffs palace played well this half too
A goal celebration befitting the quality of the goal.
ffs palace played well this half too
As things stand, I'd like to think that extra games and tired legs for Arsenal in January and February is a better thing for us than tired legs for Palace at the same time.
More minutes for them both
That’s so wrong.More minutes for them both
It's straight to penalties.
Let’s play on until arse score.
More minutes for them both
It's straight to penalties.
Ideally Arsenal through 87-86 on pens.
Trossard is very underrated.
V noticeable commentator talks about errors every time Palace about to take oneWhat's Keown up to tonight ...
Ideally Arsenal through 87-86 on pens.
Smith ‘comes down to how many penalty takers you’ve got out of the 11 out there.’pure genius
Pineapple….On his head!
Trossard is very underrated.
I'd take him before Bowen.
Goood that Arsenal have more games.Agreed
It's totally unfair Arsenal get the advantage of taking the first pen and also taking the pens at their own fans end.But that's the just the luck of two coin tosses to decide the end, and which team goes first.
Yes it’s very rewarding to reach a semi final of the lowest ranked domestic cup competition. Can’t imagine it’s that important to the Arsenal mind given their aspirations. Players were happy though.
I told you so.
It's totally unfair Arsenal get the advantage of taking the first pen and also taking the pens at their own fans end.
Christmas Eve football on telly! Bertrand at half 12, Evann, possibly, at half 5.
I think it's an ideal name because in penalty shootouts the winner takes it all.But beside the victory I figured it made sense.
Is that water constantly dripping from the stand the side the camera is on?
Is that water constantly dripping from the stand the side the camera is on?Salty bluenose tears.
Chimneys level against 10 man Derby.
Heard noses using it. Probably their new nickname in the futureChimneys level against 10 man Derby.
ha ha
Chimneys 😂 I’ll be using that from now on
Nice to see Bristol City 2-0 up.Yes and Cov city well on their way to gifting us 6 points next season.
Nice to see Bristol City 2-0 up.
Yes and Cov city well on their way to gifting us 6 points next season.
Thinking that myselfChimneys level against 10 man Derby.
ha ha
Chimneys 😂 I’ll be using that from now on
In thirty years time, when someone asks a blue nose why they are nicknamed Chimneys, they will have to explain how their fathers all fell for a proposed AI generated image of a possible new ground.Heard noses using it. Probably their new nickname in the futureChimneys level against 10 man Derby.
ha ha
Chimneys 😂 I’ll be using that from now on
Derby player gets a second yellow and a red for a foul yet a Blues player, also on a yellow, doesn't get a second one for a similar foul and their Coach is booked for pointing this out. Explain.
Good come back from Wrexham, Chimneys now down to 15th.
Lovely.
Come on Jacob’s United, funeral these red scum fuckers.
Lots more goals in this one I think.That’s done it. It will finish 1-0 to red ******
Dorgu is a cheating wanker. Obviously Manu academy product.
Bollox…that’s a pen. He basically wrapped his arm around the ball.
Has anyone heard of a pen not being given due to "mutual contact"? Sounds like it's been invented especially for manure.
Our Jacob equally anonymous.
Gordon is sn absolute donkey tonight
Well we can forget the Jawdies this season..and Utd on that performance. Sky boys saying how great Utd were lol...
Gordon is an absolute donkeyFIFYtonight
Useless tossers, Gordon has been abysmal.
FFS Jambos.
Any chance of a Man City player ever getting booked?
Well if Hearts somehow come back to win this they really are contenders.
Well if Hearts somehow come back to win this they really are contenders.
They can keep fucking off forever.
Why do we not like Hearts?
Why do we not like Hearts?
Why do we not like Hearts?
It's not universal unfortunately. It's mainly just me. I went to a Hibs school.
Why do we not like Hearts?
Why do we not like Hearts?
The Rangers of Edinburgh.
Why do we not like Hearts?
The Rangers of Edinburgh.
Why do we not like Hearts?
The Rangers of Edinburgh.
Plus Hibs and their fans are wonderful. Then we have the club that gave us Alex Cropley, Des Bremner and the clubby legged, big arsed John McGinn.
Come on the Hibbies!
Brighton may surprise us!
So do I. That is, if it’s a choice between a red hot poker in the eye or them.Why do we not like Hearts?
The Rangers of Edinburgh.
Oh. I prefer Rangers.
Hearts back to 3-2.
The player on the post was still getting to his feet, after being pushed over, when the shot went past him. 100% it would have been ruled out if Forest had scored it.
I'd rather they win the league than Arsenal. None of City's achievements count, playing FIFA or whatever with an unlimited money cheat code, despite what that moaning ****** Pep would try to have you believe.
Arsenal have spent a fortune too, but they're even more unbearable.
Boooooooo
So do I. That is, if it’s a choice between a red hot poker in the eye or them.Why do we not like Hearts?
The Rangers of Edinburgh.
Oh. I prefer Rangers.
Ok I'm in the minority!
Arsenal winning. We are going to have to keep winning to keep up with the top 2
Arsenal winning. We are going to have to keep winning to keep up with the top 2
It's not happening. We can't win every game, and the rest of the league are useless wankers.
Arsenal winning. We are going to have to keep winning to keep up with the top 2We get no help from any of the useless fuckers in the league !!!
Arsenal winning. We are going to have to keep winning to keep up with the top 2We get no help from any of the useless fuckers in the league !!!
Jammy fucks Arsenal. OG makes it 2-0. Game over
Jammy fucks Arsenal. OG makes it 2-0. Game over
BBC suggesting arsenal should be miles ahead so probably not tha hammy in this occasion.
It's a shit league. Scottish league is now more competitive.
It's a shit league. Scottish league is now more competitive.
Shouldn't you be at Villa Park!?
It's a shit league. Scottish league is now more competitive.
Shouldn't you be at Villa Park!?
You've lost me.
Fulham have scored at West Ham I reckon they’re going to go this year.
The vultures will be circling around their better players in January, and their ground will be the worst in the ChampionshipFulham have scored at West Ham I reckon they’re going to go this year.
That is a dreadful result
Fulham have scored at West Ham I reckon they’re going to go this year.
Shite results so far, over to us
Shite results so far, over to us
You could have written this any time in the past three months. Hopefully Villa get the same result as we have been doing... but can't say I'm confident. I think Doug Ellis must have run off with St Stephen's missus judging by our results in these games over the years.
I've only given my season ticket up this year and I've already lost all knowledge about where games are being played!Stop digging😂
I've only given my season ticket up this year and I've already lost all knowledge about where games are being played!Stop digging😂
Teams never, ever, do us favours.
Hoping Sinderland beat Leeds, just to take them above Chelsea and Man Utd.
Hoping Sinderland beat Leeds, just to take them above Chelsea and Man Utd.Nah, when we win we want draws elsewhere.
Cheeky little month-long injury for Mateta please.
On this form, Leeds v Man Utd might be an interesting game in a few days time.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.Surely a yellow card, bordering on red.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.Surely a yellow card, bordering on red.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.Surely a yellow card, bordering on red.
Absolutely unacceptable, straight red for me.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.So you're ignoring Burnley and wolves?
For better or worse, Manchester United are United. West Ham are West Ham. Newcastle are Newcastle. Not worth swimming against the tide on that one. Maybe if we were called Aston United (urgh) it'd bother me.
This game has inspired me to stop paying attention to anyone below United until I have to.Surely a yellow card, bordering on red.
Absolutely unacceptable, straight red for me.
For better or worse, Manchester United are United. West Ham are West Ham. Newcastle are Newcastle. Not worth swimming against the tide on that one. Maybe if we were called Aston United (urgh) it'd bother me.
It’s exactly what they want you to think. For that very reason it’s ManU, ManUre, Man UTD or Manchester United. It’s never United on its own.
For better or worse, Manchester United are United. West Ham are West Ham. Newcastle are Newcastle.
For better or worse, Manchester United are United. West Ham are West Ham. Newcastle are Newcastle. Not worth swimming against the tide on that one. Maybe if we were called Aston United (urgh) it'd bother me.
It’s exactly what they want you to think. For that very reason it’s ManU, ManUre, Man UTD or Manchester United. It’s never United on its own.
Guessand comes on for the last 20 minutes, for Ivory Coast v Camerron.
Paella in an oven?!
Paella in an oven?!
Roma playing tonight. Bailey not involved despite them having 12 subs. Injured?
Paella in an oven?!
We did one of those cooking classes in Barcelona and the paella was indeed finished in the oven. Not uncommon, apparently.