Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on May 21, 2025, 08:06:54 PM
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Robin Olsen.
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Ollie Watkins
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Is this the red carpet arrivals, or the award winners?
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Award winners so far.
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Olsen was a "thank you" award, Ollie a special award for 75.
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Ah, thought Olsen's might have been 'Most likely to win Eurovision'.
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Nice signed shirt and letter for Ollie.
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1925267772289769866 (https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1925267772289769866)
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Premier League team of the season vote includes Emi, Rogers and Watkins. Sadly - and inexplicably - Tielemans is excluded. He has been immense and has been wrongly overlooked.
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Robin Olsen.
Has he promised to leave?
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Legion, please be more informative in your posts. And you a teacher too. Tsk. 0-2, D - can do better.
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Full info on our FB Page and Group as well as the official versions.
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Players player of the season and supporters player of the season - Tielemans.
Young player of the year - Rogers.
Goal of the season - McGinn vs PSG.
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Players player of the season and supporters player of the season - Tielemans.
Young player of the year - Rogers.
Goal of the season - McGinn vs PSG.
Cannot argue with any of those.
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SJM thanking Duran for leaving allowing him to win goal of the season 😂
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Duran scored tonight, as did Penaldo, in a home game watched by 5,889.
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Nice speech by Damian Vidigany (sp?):
“There’s not, anymore, a big 6 in England”.
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Why do we have to stop calling it a big 6 now we’re one of them? I say stick with the name. Talk about Spurs and Man U being two of the biggest sides “outside the big 6”.
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Heck in his speech mentioned 3 new deals that the club have done - Red Bull, Guinness and Coca Cola
It will be interesting to see what the new person will bring to the role and how he will improve our commercial deals?
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He also mentions North Stand upgrade approved and Witton Station upgrade > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no)
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Anyone ever had a cocktail of Coca-Cola, Red Bull and Guinness?
It'll give you wings, the jitters and the shits all at once.
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Anyone ever had a cocktail of Coca-Cola, Red Bull and Guinness?
It'll give you wings, the jitters and the shits all at once.
I've never had the shits from a Guinness, but I have from a Red Bull.
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Hope we don't end up with sponsors all over the kit, like some of the rugby teams have. Red Bull written across the arse of the shorts does not appeal.
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Some of the kits in the French League have more adverts than a Formula One car.
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Hope we don't end up with sponsors all over the kit, like some of the rugby teams have. Red Bull written across the arse of the shorts does not appeal.
I think there are rules around it, only one on the front and one on the arm. You'd guess a sponsor for the training kit would be something they'd want to get on board.
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Olsen getting one was a bit odd.
Been here three years and just bench warming?
I mean as much as he's derided and been forgotten about Hause is still here and played a much bigger part in who we've become given all his games in our run in for 2019 season and then playing significantly over the next two years to help keep us up and then establish as mid table team.
Is this event available anywhere to watch on YT or other platforms as Brighton put their awards night on Youtube for anyone to watch.
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He also mentions North Stand upgrade approved and Witton Station upgrade > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no)
He forgot to mention 'Justin Talks Villa' as one of his achievements. A Heck sponsored, access all areas, exclusives for promoting the great work of our thin skinned Business Director disguised as a Villa fan vlog. Dream job.
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He also mentions North Stand upgrade approved and Witton Station upgrade > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no)
He forgot to mention 'Justin Talks Villa' as one of his achievements. A Heck sponsored, access all areas, exclusives for promoting the great work of our thin skinned Business Director disguised as a Villa fan vlog. Dream job.
That’s been popping up on my YT feed lately and I was tempted to have a look. Now, not so much.
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He also mentions North Stand upgrade approved and Witton Station upgrade > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_plzML1no)
He forgot to mention 'Justin Talks Villa' as one of his achievements. A Heck sponsored, access all areas, exclusives for promoting the great work of our thin skinned Business Director disguised as a Villa fan vlog. Dream job.
That’s been popping up on my YT feed lately and I was tempted to have a look. Now, not so much.
A bit harsh on Justin IMO. He’s a bit dull and trots out cliches for fun but it is a genuine Villa fan vlog.
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He is a genuine fan and has been on various fan channels for years now, and by all accounts not a bad guy at all.
However he's fairly unique in the Villa fan media ecosystem in that he's consistently showering praise on everything the commercial department do, even including stuff like CL ticket pricing. Not a surprise therefore that it emerged that he's in personal contact with Heck and gets freebies like this.
I expect he'll end up on the new FAB
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He is a genuine fan and has been on various fan channels for years now, and by all accounts not a bad guy at all.
However he's fairly unique in the Villa fan media ecosystem in that he's consistently showering praise on everything the commercial department do, even including stuff like CL ticket pricing. Not a surprise therefore that it emerged that he's in personal contact with Heck and gets freebies like this.
I expect he'll end up on the new FAB
Yes he contributed to a podcast and I stopped listening to it because it was so obvious he was pushing a line about how amazing the off the field stuff was
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He is a genuine fan and has been on various fan channels for years now, and by all accounts not a bad guy at all.
However he's fairly unique in the Villa fan media ecosystem in that he's consistently showering praise on everything the commercial department do, even including stuff like CL ticket pricing. Not a surprise therefore that it emerged that he's in personal contact with Heck and gets freebies like this.
I expect he'll end up on the new FAB
Yes he contributed to a podcast and I stopped listening to it because it was so obvious he was pushing a line about how amazing the off the field stuff was
I follow on Twitter because I once saw a post which featured works going on at the ground that I hadn't been aware of, might've been that paddle steamer thing, so it's handy in that respect.
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Any one think this should have been after the last game of the season?
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Any one think this should have been after the last game of the season?
Does it really matter?
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Not sure it really matters.
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Any one think this should have been after the last game of the season?
100% yes
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
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Would imagine half the team will have holidays booked. Be a bit rubbish holding an awards ceremony without them.
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Any one think this should have been after the last game of the season?
Just out of interest, why?
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I can just imagine if Villa had lost and then had an awards night this week. Chicago and Tim would be the first on here moaning their arses off at how out of touch the club was and that the players obviously didn't respect the fans.
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Besides, they didn't play like they'd had a heavy night 4 days before.
They played like they'd been freebasing cocaine half an hour before kick off.
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Besides, they didn't play like they'd had a heavy night 4 days before.
They played like they'd been freebasing cocaine half an hour before kick off.
Wouldn't that mean they were hyper and running around rather then lethargic and second best?
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Besides, they didn't play like they'd had a heavy night 4 days before.
They played like they'd been freebasing cocaine half an hour before kick off.
Wouldn't that mean they were hyper and running around rather then lethargic and second best?
Good point.
Probably just on the weed.
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They played like they'd eaten the same gravy and chips I had.
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They played like they'd eaten the same gravy and chips I had.
Probably, they definitely weren't different gravy on Sunday.
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None of them were drinking.
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Boring sods.
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I doubt it had much of an impact on the performance, but I did think it was weird to have it before the last game.
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We did last season, and because we had got CL, they allowed them to drink. Don't think there was many complaints then.
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We did last season, and because we had got CL, they allowed them to drink. Don't think there was many complaints then.
Because it was mission accomplished before the last game
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Which they wouldn't have known when the date set.
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They were still half-cut last year by the time they rolled into Selhurst Park a few days after the awards. Fair enough, a fit and sober Villa side will never win at Palace anyway.
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But they didn't allow them to drink at this one because the next match was important. Not that it showed on the day. So last year it was ok to have it the week before the end of the season but this year it wasn't seems to be the feel of certain more club critical supporters.
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Any one think this should have been after the last game of the season?
Just out of interest, why?
Because we had an important game left and all of their attention should have been on that.
In the words of the famous song,
There will be time enough for counting when the dealings done.
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But they didn't allow them to drink at this one because the next match was important. Not that it showed on the day. So last year it was ok to have it the week before the end of the season but this year it wasn't seems to be the feel of certain more club critical supporters.
Because last year it didn’t matter.
This year it did and we saw what happened.
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Why wasn't this a concern a week ago, on the day of the awards? We didn't lose because of an awards ceremony, we lost because we didn't play very well.
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Why wasn't this a concern a week ago, on the day of the awards? We didn't lose because of an awards ceremony, we lost because we didn't play very well.
These thoroughly correct and reasonable comments won’t wash on here Clampy :-)
Some of the scrabbling around to moan and find reasons is bizarre…we played badly, opponent who had nothing to play for played better…it’s kinda what happens in a game with two teams sometimes
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But they didn't allow them to drink at this one because the next match was important. Not that it showed on the day. So last year it was ok to have it the week before the end of the season but this year it wasn't seems to be the feel of certain more club critical supporters.
Because last year it didn’t matter.
This year it did and we saw what happened.
And neither last year or this year did we know the awards were happening at a time when the last match mattered or not. This is just moaning at the club for the sake of moaning at the club and not a peep would have happened if we had won on Sunday because an awards night has nothing to do with it.
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What time did the award night finish and the players go home?
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They were all in Mr Egg at 3am except Emery who prefers Mr Sizzle.
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I feel sorry for Emery, missing out on Birmingham's greatest culinary experience.
If only Big Wok was still going.
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Why wasn't this a concern a week ago, on the day of the awards? We didn't lose because of an awards ceremony, we lost because we didn't play very well.
Same can be said of the post match criticism of the Ref choice . Or did the club flag this before the game ??
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Tim is getting upset about something he didn't realise he was upset about until erm..yesterday.
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Chicago had to prompt him.
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
This is exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to wonder why they support such a shambolic club.
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You would have thought it was ok to discuss what the club does on a site devoted to the club and to try and look for reasons as to why we had to experience what happened Sunday.
Why people have to take criticism of the club personally, I know not why.
Of course it’s hard for all of us to live up to the better fan than you brigade in all of their self righteousness.
My opinion, it was a stupid fkin idea to have an end of season do before the end of the season with such a critical game coming up.
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
This is exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to wonder why they support such a shambolic club.
Because my dad and my grandad took me when I was 7 mate.
Is that ok?
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But where was this criticism on the day of the awards, the day after the awards or the day after that? I didn't see any from anyone and I include Social Media in that.
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
This is exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to wonder why they support such a shambolic club.
Because my dad and my grandad took me when I was 7 mate.
Is that ok?
You’ll have to excuse me for being critical about blaming an awards evening for why we didn’t perform on Sunday. There maybe things to assess over the selection and why we can’t get over the line but that’s surely isn’t one of them.
I may have missed the pictures of the players coming out drunk and if I have then I apologise.
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You would have thought it was ok to discuss what the club does on a site devoted to the club and to try and look for reasons as to why we had to experience what happened Sunday.
Why people have to take criticism of the club personally, I know not why.
Of course it’s hard for all of us to live up to the better fan than you brigade in all of their self righteousness.
My opinion, it was a stupid fkin idea to have an end of season do before the end of the season with such a critical game coming up.
Chicago, this just comes across as looking for reasons to be annoyed and angry and to be quite frank looks like performative miserablism. I can think of plenty of reasons to get annoyed with the club but when they hold their end of season do isn’t one of them.
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What should the players have been doing instead?
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Tucked up in bed before 9pm with headphones to have a loop of Emery's tactics to program them when they sleep. Because they missed it that one night, we fucked up on Sunday.
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More to the point imagine the atmosphere at the awards if they were this week. Reminder not to ask Chicago not organise any parties for me.
That said I can only imagine Unai was on the lash last week. Also, and more concerning, I wonder if Unai maintains the traditional Basque method of drinking, basically down in one. It would explain a lot.
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What should the players have been doing instead?
at home playing COD
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What should the players have been doing instead?
Inhaling hippy-crack and pleasuring themselves.
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Of course the club can do no wrong. How dare we challenge the way that the club treats the most important game of the season!
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
This is exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to wonder why they support such a shambolic club.
Because my dad and my grandad took me when I was 7 mate.
Is that ok?
You’ll have to excuse me for being critical about blaming an awards evening for why we didn’t perform on Sunday. There maybe things to assess over the selection and why we can’t get over the line but that’s surely isn’t one of them.
I may have missed the pictures of the players coming out drunk and if I have then I apologise.
You are obviously an idiot.
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I blame the awards ceremony we had a few days before the Palace semi final.
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
I hope you remember that next time.you accuse posters of being blue noses.
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
Plenty of people countered and argued the point. Just because you didn't agree doesn't make it personal abuse.
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
I hope you remember that next time.you accuse posters of being blue noses.
Well, on the basis that you spend all of your time having a go at other posters and making everything personal. I work on the basis that I am perfectly happy to discuss debate any opinion until the point I get attacked then I respond.
I never start the personal stuff but I do react.
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The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
Yep, sad when posters just criticise and chuck names at each other.
You’ll have to excuse me for being critical about blaming an awards evening for why we didn’t perform on Sunday. There maybe things to assess over the selection and why we can’t get over the line but that’s surely isn’t one of them.
I may have missed the pictures of the players coming out drunk and if I have then I apologise.
You are obviously an idiot.
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I don't 'spend all my time having a go at other posters'. That's just something you constantly bring up when you are disagreed with and it's absolute nonsense.
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The "you're not allowed to disagree!" defence whenever anyone disagrees is the lowest form of foruming. Apart from puns.
The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
Plenty of people countered and argued the point. Just because you didn't agree doesn't make it personal abuse.
If you read back and look at the form on here, there are plenty of times where someone makes a point and then there is a pile on.
As I said above I don’t start the personal stuff but I do respond.
It would be great if there were counter arguments and discussion and I really enjoy that but sadly it is the exception.
Why some posters need to make it personal I have no idea. When I meet Villa fans in the real world there is an automatic connection a shared bond, on here it seems that there is joy in having a go at Villa fans. I don’t get it.
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The inability to argue or counter the point and instead criticise the poster is the lowest of the low.
Sadly this is becoming the norm.
Sad.
Yep, sad when posters just criticise and chuck names at each other.
You’ll have to excuse me for being critical about blaming an awards evening for why we didn’t perform on Sunday. There maybe things to assess over the selection and why we can’t get over the line but that’s surely isn’t one of them.
I may have missed the pictures of the players coming out drunk and if I have then I apologise.
You are obviously an idiot.
Yes I responded, I didn’t start it.
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Not sure it really matters.
It apparently does for the ones who want to blame everything bad on the club. It wouldn't have even been mentioned if the result had gone our way on Sunday.
This is exactly what it is. Sometimes you have to wonder why they support such a shambolic club.
Because my dad and my grandad took me when I was 7 mate.
Is that ok?
You’ll have to excuse me for being critical about blaming an awards evening for why we didn’t perform on Sunday. There maybe things to assess over the selection and why we can’t get over the line but that’s surely isn’t one of them.
I may have missed the pictures of the players coming out drunk and if I have then I apologise.
You are obviously an idiot.
I’ve been called worse.
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Of course the club can do no wrong. How dare we challenge the way that the club treats the most important game of the season!
You can challenge, I'm merely asking what the players should have been doing instead of having a relaxed evening focusing on the positives of the season.
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Of course the club can do no wrong. How dare we challenge the way that the club treats the most important game of the season!
You can challenge, I'm merely asking what the players should have been doing instead of having a relaxed evening focusing on the positives of the season.
Bed with an Ovaltine?
You'd be hard pushed to make a case that the awards night had an effect on Sundays abject performance, but as its cost us £100m I also don't think, in a sporting world of small margins, its timing shouldn't be looked at in the wider review of why we saved our worst performance for the most important game.
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Of course. But the point remains, what should they have done instead? By all accounts they weren't drinking, weren't put under any stress and do what they've always done. I doubt very much that Emery would have been popular having another meeting, they'd have already been on the pitch that day and having a positive event would have lifted the mood.
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I'm wary of getting involved as I don't really think it had any impact but, as we've little else to argue about for the next few months....
They could have done nothing at all on Wednesday night as they had a season defining game a few days later? Although I concede the point that presumably UE wasn't against it or that's what would have happened.
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Do they all book holidays soon after the season ends, which means we need to have the awards night before that? Also imagine the club didn’t want to have it a few days before a potential CL final…