Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: olaftab on April 16, 2025, 09:15:10 AM
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When: Saturday 19 Aril 17:30 Kick Off
Where: Villa Park
Not sure if this is going be a "bit of afters game" but it must not be. Very important fixture against one of our rivals for top 5. Both teams are on a good run but at minimum we must not lose this game.
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Hope we take the momentum from last night and go for it. Might be dead on our feet but we have options off the bench now and great to see Ross back on the pitch.
Massive game for us though and last night shows what we can do.
3-2 to us
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Will help they have to play tonight. Think we will nick it 2 1.
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Home win, sun bed wanker to be beaten like drum wankers were (in 2nd leg).
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If Joelinton picks up a yellow tonight he'll be suspended for two games, which I guess includes this match. That would be nice.
I'm hoping we can follow up a barnstormer with another barnstormer and it won't be after the Lord Mayor's show. Didn't we follow up the 3-0 vs Newcastle with a poor performance? Need to cut that out.
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Need to go as strong as possible against them in midfield so I'd be looking at playing all of Onana / Kamara / Tielemans / McGinn.
No idea which attacker you leave out though.
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If Joelinton picks up a yellow tonight he'll be suspended for two games, which I guess includes this match. That would be nice.
I'm hoping we can follow up a barnstormer with another barnstormer and it won't be after the Lord Mayor's show. Didn't we follow up the 3-0 vs Newcastle with a poor performance? Need to cut that out.
I hope he’s playing personally. I hope they have their strongest side possible when we hand them a much deserved thrashing.
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We need to absolutely batter these twats.
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Have to win. We’ve got to carry that first 20 mins of the second half into the game.
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A game we MUST win.
It’s as simple as that.
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We need to absolutely batter these twats.
Yes. Thats it
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Good to know Newcastle have to play tonight. Crystal Palace too so they won't be pushovers.
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Hope we take the positives from last night, and the Euro experience as a whole, and that they aren't deflated. Statement victory would set us up for a big finish to the season.
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Obviously a win would be fantastic, but I don't think a draw is too horrendous a result.
I think Chelsea and Forest are the two teams we stand the best chance of finishing above to make the top 5, and I'm not sure either of them will win at Fulham and Tottenham respectively this weekend, so we may well still be in touch of them with a point, and we'll have used up one of the two most difficult league games we have left this season.
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The next 2 are better not lose ones.
However if we lose one we need to win the other.
Glad they have a seemingly tough match and we get an extra days rest despite last night's exertions
2.2
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A game we MUST win.
It’s as simple as that.
I'm not sure it's an absolute must win. It depends on how the other results go. A draw wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Newcastle are very good but they're not as good as PSG. I know they've got the wood on us, but we can do this.
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I know too many Newcastle fans. Please win.
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Newcastle are very good but they're not as good as PSG. I know they've got the wood on us, but we can do this.
They’re good at what they do, like stoke were good at what they did back in the olden days. I’ve actually come around to their fans a bit recently. But I cannot stand their team or deputy coach.
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I feel that we have to win this one. The psychology coming off a rousing 2nd half vs PSG may well help us to take the game to the Jawdies in a way we haven't for a while.
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Someone needs to deal with Barnes , he seems to always score against us .
-------- Martinez---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
-- Kamara - Tielemans --
Rogers -- McGinn -- Ramsey
------- Rashford ---------
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We absolutely have to come out from the first minute like a steam train and destroy them.
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In an act of appalling scheduling me and Nodge will be on a plane back from Dublin (we were hoping that it would move to Sunday or be an earlier KO), so will be there in spirit(s).
In stark contrast to the usual feeling after a Cup exit I think the place will be bouncing but Newcastle are not far off that so it makes for a decent game. Emery will not relax one iota after last night so the players won't either. I see it being tight and draw would not be the end of the world but the fact that we're at home might tip it our way.
Oh, and whoever scores for us needs to head to the touchline and give it the big 'un to that Cuprinol ******.
1-0
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Our last 10 games in all competitions WWWWWWWLWW.
We're in form. We've got a full squad to choose from (I believe). We have players motivated to do again next season what they all experienced last night.
No one, and I mean no one, will want to face us right now. Last night's second half will have every opposition team hoping that THAT Villa side doesn't turn up.
It's Unai's job to make sure it does. Let's batter them, a statement win, and have everyone else worried about whether they can get a Champions League place WITH us, rather than INSTEAD of us.
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I know too many Newcastle fans. Please win.
Who is he?
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Our last 10 games in all competitions WWWWWWWLWW.
We're in form. We've got a full squad to choose from (I believe). We have players motivated to do again next season what they all experienced last night.
No one, and I mean no one, will want to face us right now. Last night's second half will have every opposition team hoping that THAT Villa side doesn't turn up.
It's Unai's job to make sure it does. Let's batter them, a statement win, and have everyone else worried about whether they can get a Champions League place WITH us, rather than INSTEAD of us.
Cracking post. The manager, players and fans should be well up for these last 8 games (hopefully) of the season. We’re coming down the home straight like a fucking steam train.
Chelsea, Forest et al should be bricking it.
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Need to go as strong as possible against them in midfield so I'd be looking at playing all of Onana / Kamara / Tielemans / McGinn.
No idea which attacker you leave out though.
Either the one we bought on last night or the one we started with.....
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Someone needs to deal with Barnes , he seems to always score against us .
-------- Martinez---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
-- Kamara - Tielemans --
Rogers -- McGinn -- Ramsey
------- Rashford ---------
Ollie for me - fresh, will want to prove a point
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0-2
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I feel bad for Eddie, he's a decent man. Hope he makes a full recovery. It will be easier to see us crush a team managed by "JT".
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I feel bad for Eddie, he's a decent man. Hope he makes a full recovery. It will be easier to see us crush a team managed by "JT".
It's actually 'EBLJT', Eddie's Belligerent & Loathsome Jason Tindall.
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I feel bad for Eddie, he's a decent man. Hope he makes a full recovery. It will be easier to see us crush a team managed by "JT".
It's actually 'EBLJT', Eddie's Belligerent & Loathsome Jason Tindall.
I have reservations about Howe purely based on the company he keeps. That c**** Tindall and I doubt the Khashoggi family are that keen on him either.
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I think we do need to win this. It’s going to be tough, but we have shown we can beat one of the world’s best/form sides. If we hit the level we did in the second half we can beat anyone. Crucially one of Newcastle’s key attributes is how they press the ball, PSG are masters of that and we got through them.
Plus we owe them for their behaviour at their place and humiliating us on several occasions.
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Every decent person should want Saudi fucking Arabia to extract as little joy as possible from owning a Premier League team.
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I can easily disassociate wanting Eddie Howe to get well soon, with wanting to smash ‘his’ team into oblivion.
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We're on fire and scoring for fun.
3-1 Villa FTF.
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3-0 goals by JJ on 11, Ollie on 64 and 83.
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We're on fire and scoring for fun.
3-1 Villa FTF.
Well yeah but so are Newcastle. We need to be at our best here.
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I can see this being a war of attrition then our pattern of late goals kick in .
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We're on fire and scoring for fun.
3-1 Villa FTF.
Well yeah but so are Newcastle. We need to be at our best here.
We do, and if we are we'll smash them.
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We beat PSG last night, arguably the best side in Europe, if we take the second half performance into the Newcastle game we take all 3 points, Villa win for me but one thing we can't do is depend on other results now, we have to have the win. Thought a few weeks back, couldn't see Brighton a problem and couldn't really see Forest to much of a problem always thought it would be these that would make or break the season.
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Good to know Newcastle have to play tonight. Crystal Palace too so they won't be pushovers.
Well that aged well
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Im going for a 3-3. Tommy Craig hat trick for us. Irving Nattrass brace for them.
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Good to know Newcastle have to play tonight. Crystal Palace too so they won't be pushovers.
Well that aged well
haha
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Good to know Newcastle have to play tonight. Crystal Palace too so they won't be pushovers.
Well that aged well
Indeed they are flying. We’re going to have to be spot on Saturday to get a result.
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Palace clearly saving it all for the semi . Tossers .
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Fuck these fuckers.
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I really, really resent the fact that we have scrimped and worked our knackers off and been really, really smart in how we rebuilt Aston Villa and these barcode wankers take the dirty Saudi money and basically sportswash their way into contention.
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Palace clearly saving it all for the semi . Tossers .
They can't just switch on to playing well though. Two five goal batterings in a row with Bournemouth and Arsenal next up, I'm hoping they'll be well down on confidence by the time we turn up.
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If Palace had lost their last fifteen games I'd still expect them to turn into Peak Melchester Rovers when they play against us.
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Us 4 Them 0
We'll twat Palace as well. In fact let them both play us at the same time, we'll twat them.
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Palace clearly saving it all for the semi . Tossers .
They can't just switch on to playing well though. Two five goal batterings in a row with Bournemouth and Arsenal next up, I'm hoping they'll be well down on confidence by the time we turn up.
This is a very good point, its very difficult to get out of a losing habit. What was easy suddenly becomes difficult and you suspect the manager may start tinkering. I hope Bournemouth and Arsenal absolutely spank them and they turn up at Wembley thinking they'll just need to repeat earlier in the season.
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Palace clearly saving it all for the semi . Tossers .
They can't just switch on to playing well though. Two five goal batterings in a row with Bournemouth and Arsenal next up, I'm hoping they'll be well down on confidence by the time we turn up.
This is a very good point, its very difficult to get out of a losing habit. What was easy suddenly becomes difficult and you suspect the manager may start tinkering. I hope Bournemouth and Arsenal absolutely spank them and they turn up at Wembley thinking they'll just need to repeat earlier in the season.
Momentum is important . Who was that guy who rested his best squad then drew vs Stoke and it all went pete tongue . name escapes me
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Pubehead.
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Surely that was Cunty McCuntface
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More than happy to go with that one.
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The next 2 are better not lose ones.
However if we lose one we need to win the other.
Glad they have a seemingly tough match and we get an extra days rest despite last night's exertions
2.2
Well we got the extra days rest. Unlike their tough match
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We have to beat their press and make a good start. It’s two sides in good form and we need to puncture their confidence. It’s higher pressure for us as they’re in a great position now.
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Momentum is important . Who was that guy who rested his best squad then drew vs Stoke and it all went pete tongue . name escapes me
Still leaves a bitter taste.
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We need to absolutely batter these twats.
I agree wholeheartedly.
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We have to beat their press and make a good start. It’s two sides in good form and we need to puncture their confidence. It’s higher pressure for us as they’re in a great position now.
I would be tempted start with a similar team as against PSG. It means conceding the width again though which is where Newcastle are strong.
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They came down here around the same time season before last and they were in red hot form then as well.
I think there will be an added incentive to go extra hard against these in particular given the way the games have gone with them since.
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Crowd be as loud as Tuesday. Even when went 2 down, we were brilliant.
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Really tough game and a style of football we've struggled against when they're in peak form which it looks like they are now. Our home form is a big boost for us though and the possibility that Howe still isn't on the touchline. They've done amazing without him in the last couple of home games but they've had it pretty easy in both and a really tough away game is probably where you need your manager the most.
On the flip side they are probably looking at it thinking a draw is great for them with the league table as it is, and I think might not be end of the world for us in a tough fixture post-PSG as it keeps momentum going and set us up for a crack at City. I think it might be a score draw.
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Crowd be as loud as Tuesday. Even when went 2 down, we were brilliant.
I don't think there's any danger there, crowd will be fully up for this.
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Even today after all the highs of the last two and half years I still have this sense of foreboding when it comes to crucial moments and times for Villa. I am almost resigned to glorious failure. For example, I think Palace have already switched their attentions to the cup entirely and will turn up against us. And then I expect us to finish where we are now in the PL. At some point I am going to get so confident that I relinquish these thoughts from my head. But by that time my sense of foreboding will be that Emery is bound to be moving on at that point!
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I have absolutely no idea how to call this. Two possibilities. Either the PSG game took so much out of the guys, not only physically but also emotionally and they repeat some of the earlier post CL games performances, or they are so fired up from the emotion and the second half on Tuesday that they carry this on for Saturday. I'm hoping for the latter, and with Emery constantly stressing that the league position is the main aim, I'm leaning towards this option.
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I know too many Newcastle fans. Please win.
Who is he?
Half the bloody in-laws in Durham for starters. Random mates in Brum. A kid who sits 5 metres away in the office in Oz who comes from Newcastle in NSW whose family are from Tyneside. I seem to be a magnet for them, it must be the piece of coal I ate as a kid.
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Drop Torres for this. He'll wimp out against their Brazilian dogs of war. Need Mings to kick their arses.
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Just for you. I feel physically sick.
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Emi
Digne
Konsa
Mings
Garcia
BooBoo
Onana
YT
Morgs
Rash
Malen
Olsen, Disasi, Pau, Cash (or Barkley), SJM, Ollie, Marco, iMaat, JJ
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Onana and Mings are vital for this game. We really owe them a beating, I just hope the players aren't too tired (mentally as well as physically) after Tuesday.
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Should be plenty of goals so sod's law says this will be 0-0
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Just for you. I feel physically sick.
;D
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Emi
Digne
Konsa
Mings
Garcia
BooBoo
Onana
YT
Morgs
Rash
Malen
Olsen, Disasi, Pau, Cash (or Barkley), SJM, Ollie, Marco, iMaat, JJ
McGinn's got to start.
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The battered us and behaved appallingly at their place. We massively owe them.
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They made Jhon mad and made his mind up about going to Saudi, where the Geordies are powered from. Fabian Schär, you're a big-boned bastard!
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Massive, massive game. Not just for the 3 points but setting the tone for the run-in.
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No time for a Euro hangover or self pity . Rip into these sports washing twats like we did 2 years ago .
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They are on fire - we’ll do well to contain them - a draw my best result - bah humbug
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They are on fire - we’ll do well to contain them - a draw my best result - bah humbug
You've gone native. :(
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Based on the way things are going I'm not confident on this one . Be one of them squad photo things aswell to rub salt into open wounds .
Please lord help us .
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I swear last time I checked we'd won 9 in 10.
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Newcastle have won six in a row. So I don't think you can really say either team's form makes them favourites. We tend to be good at home but are also often shit against Newcastle. I think Newcastle would be happier than us with the draw, not sure if that helps us or not.
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The way we played second half against PSG tells me we should fear no one in the premier league.
We have a better squad than Newcastle and although they are on fire, so are we.
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Just think we will be struggling after the PSG set back. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen villa for too many decades now to not be sceptical.
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Just think we will be struggling after the PSG set back. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen villa for too many decades now to not be sceptical.
Me too, but that second half performance was something special and I truly believe we should fear no one.
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FTF
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FTCF
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They are very good at what they do.
We are very good at what we do.
Most of the clued up PL teams have worked out that if they allow our midfield players to turn and run, they will be in trouble. So they just do the technical foul.
We must not be bullied, and repay all such activities in kind, and with interest.
Our wide players, full backs, wing backs are whatever the fuck they are called these days will need to be on top form.
We will win.
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I would like to see Watkins on from the start, with Rashford also starting, out wide.
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I’d agree that I’d be starting Ollie and having Rashford out wide.
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Feels like running quickly at Trippier is going to be a good idea.
Maatsen and Rashford together on that side wouldn't be the worst way to set up.
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Think one of us will get a funeraling here.
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4 2 villa
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I fancy a Brighton moment, 6-1
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We'll get beat by these twats like we always do.
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Rashford/Watkins doesn't seem to work together. I reckon Rashford will start this one with Malen wide .
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We'll get beat by these twats like we always do.
Tindall will bare his teeth.
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I would like to see Watkins on from the start, with Rashford also starting, out wide.
Hasn't really worked so far. Leaves the midfield unbalanced especially if Rogers is on the right. Maybe switch McGinn over there instead
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Kamara
Tielemans
McGinn
Ramsey
Rogers
Watkins
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Damian Vidagany's letter to the FAB about the title run in.
https://www.avfcfab.co.uk/letter-from-damian-vidagany
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
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Emery said they're training this afternoon.
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Baguettes, croissants the lot.
Think Kamara needs a big game tomorrow, he wasn't at his best for the PSG games .
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I've had a butchers on their forum, they seem to think they're now a hybrid of Brazil 70 and Guardiola's Barcelona so it will be extra sweet to twat their fat shirtless fans and Cuprinol man back up to the wastelands.
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Emery said they're training this afternoon.
Oh okay cheers. Better weather there than in Warwick then. Cool windy and dull here.
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No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop!
Such is his custom there, that it's known locally as the 'Boubangerie'.
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Damian Vidagany's letter to the FAB about the title run in.
https://www.avfcfab.co.uk/letter-from-damian-vidagany
Love him. I'm once again bricking it as failure is not an option. We must come away tomorrow with the three points.
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Damian's the man! Round two in the tunnel with Tindall tomoro after we throttle them.
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They’ve had our number of late. We need to be much better.
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I'll say again , Barnes needs dealing with for once .
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I'll say again , Barnes needs dealing with for once .
Let's give him ninety minutes of sheer hell.
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I see Matthew Targett has been taking this piss out of the Digne win celebration. They don't like us , we don't like them . Let's get this on .
COYVB's .
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
Bouba needs to get up into the Cotswolds, visit to La Tradition French Bakery in Brailles, Looks nothing, no gloss, hidden secret, fantastic place if you can find it open, French guy that runs it and a string of French girls that come over to mind the place for him, brilliant if you're well versed in French my wife loves going in there just for the chat, one thing though the products are second to none, ( he's also at Lower Clopton Farm).
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
Unless wedges has improved since I was at school it was never good, stings like hell . Braggs is the place , sublime .
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My wife supports Newcastle so this will be my fourth time going to a game against the bastards. So far I haven't seen us register a single point against them.
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Stay home!
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
Weirdly enough, I was over there this afternoon and stopped for a hit drink and a Croq Monsieur. Was excellent
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F*CK you Geordie boys, my prescription after tomorrow.
Here goes......
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Newcastle always seem to treat this game as a big one and are always up for it. We’ve been caught out a few times by that, lets hope that changes today.
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We need it to change, because the result of this game is absolutely massive for us. A win and we’re 2 points behind Newcastle, level with Forest, worst case scenario 1 point behind Man City and 3 points ahead of Chelsea. Granted with two of those having a game in hand. But lose and that picture is totally different - Newcastle are 8 points ahead and gone, Man City are quite possibly 4 points ahead and Forest and Chelsea have a chance to open a gap.
This game is huge for us.
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I'll say again , Barnes needs dealing with for once .
Let's give him ninety minutes of sheer hell.
😂
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
Weirdly enough, I was over there this afternoon and stopped for a hit drink and a Croq Monsieur. Was excellent
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If Ollie doesn't start this game I think he will be looking elsewhere, important game to be left out of.
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Yep and to be honest I like the idea of Ollie up top and Rashford on the left for this. We have to turn them round. They, more than any team I think, thrive on momentum.
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I think he is nursing an injury.
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
It's outstanding. As is the butchers next door (albeit run by Blues fans but they're okay - and like most know more about our team than theirs).
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Interesting to see the training pics released by the club. Assume looking at the weather they trained this morning. No signs of Bouba - that's because he was in the French bakers in Hockley Heath at 11.00am with his nipper - buying up half the shop !
Is it any good, I take it’s several rungs higher than Wedges?
It's outstanding. As is the butchers next door (albeit run by Blues fans but they're okay - and like most know more about our team than theirs).
Do they still eat the missionaries and point at aeroplanes in Brailes?
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They're still bleating about a banner some kids made 15 years ago. Let's give them something to bleat about today.
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Best wishes to Eddie Howe on his recovery from pneumonia but one thing I found satisfying about this win was because it reversed a couple of crashing down to Earth situations that Villa have experienced in the past. When Martin O'Neil had just left us in 2010 the first game post MON was against West Ham that we put a great performance in and won 3-1 (James Milner's last game for us). We went to Newcastle full of optimism only to get thrashed 6-0. Then, just after Gerrard had been sacked we bounced back to beat Brentford (who were a bogey side for us at the time) with a great performance. Again we went to Newcastle only again to get a pasting, 4-0 this time. This week we reversed the situation: Newcastle had great results and performances this week while Eddy Howe recovers in hospital. They came to Villa Park full of optimism only to be bought crashing down to Earth, as we were those couple of times. A taste of their own medicine.