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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on April 12, 2025, 01:51:00 PM
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Forgot about Archer. We'll be needing at least two, then. Surprised Malen not starting.
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Surprised as only 4 changes.
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I thought it was Shane Long in their team news post.
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Males and Garcia surprise omissions.
Looks like Ollie starts on Tuesday
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No Bailey or Barkley. Get fit you freeloading cvnts!
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Reassuringly strong I guess. Id have given Malen a start, esp against bottom of the league
But then again I dont know as much as Unai!!
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Really don’t understand Malen not starting this one.
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I thought it was Shane Long in their team news post.
Fastest ever Premier League goal, you'll never sing that (it don't scan) .
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Garcia instead of Cash on Tuesday? Shit or bust.
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Garcia instead of Cash on Tuesday? Shit or bust.
Can’t play.
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Oh no really?
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Ollie’s playing Tuesday I suspect.
We have to win this game. Early goals please.
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It’s illegal for Tielemans or Rogers to get a Rest.
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I'm surprised there weren't a few rested. Especially not starting the ones that can't play PSG. If there's game to go with them it has to be this one.
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Oh no really?
Not sure if you’re serious as it’s been discussed as nauseum, but in case you are, him and Malen were left out of the CL squad.
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We can’t afford any slip ups. The players will be up for the CL game whatever happens. So I’m glad we’ve gone strong.
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Ollie’s playing Tuesday I suspect.
We have to win this game. Early goals please.
Depends on his knee injury. If fully fit I think he would have started in Paris.
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Playing Malen and Garcia is hardly gutting the best 11 though, it's not like giving a bunch of youth players their debuts.
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Ollie’s playing Tuesday I suspect.
I think that's what most of us said last week when he was benched against Forest.
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Playing Malen and Garcia is hardly gutting the best 11 though, it's not like giving a bunch of youth players their debuts.
I’m sure the plan will be to try and have the game won by HT and then rest players. You’re right though, we have an embarrassment of riches to call on.
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It’s illegal for Tielemans or Rogers to get a Rest.
Hey, without them we'd be 15th and in no cups.
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We'll be leggy during extra time on Tuesday.
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That was about half the changes I was expecting. But, isn't it nice just to be able to look at a 20 like that
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Ollie’s playing Tuesday I suspect.
I think that's what most of us said last week when he was benched against Forest.
We were trying to hit them on the break. I think we’ll be trying to challenge higher up the pitch which will need Ollie.
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That was about half the changes I was expecting. But, isn't it nice just to be able to look at a 20 like that
Yes and add in Bogarde Barkley & Bailey.
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Playing Malen and Garcia is hardly gutting the best 11 though, it's not like giving a bunch of youth players their debuts.
I’m sure the plan will be to try and have the game won by HT and then rest players. You’re right though, we have an embarrassment of riches to call on.
Yeah that makes sense.
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Oh no really?
Not sure if you’re serious as it’s been discussed as nauseum, but in case you are, him and Malen were left out of the CL squad.
I was serious mate. I genuinely only thought it was Malen left out.
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Oh no really?
Not sure if you’re serious as it’s been discussed as nauseum, but in case you are, him and Malen were left out of the CL squad.
I was serious mate. I genuinely only thought it was Malen left out.
Oh okay, sorry. Glad to be of help mate.
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Really don’t understand Malen not starting this one.
Totally.
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I'd have started Garcia and Malen. If Cash is starting today, does that mean that it will be Disasi and Konsa on Tuesday?
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I thought Malen , garcia and even watkins would start this and maybe give youri a rest too as he never drops Rogers .
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I thought Malen , garcia and even watkins would start this and maybe give youri a rest too as he never drops Rogers .
Why would he “drop” Rogers?
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I thought Malen , garcia and even watkins would start this and maybe give youri a rest too as he never drops Rogers .
Why would he “drop” Rogers?
just think the guy needs a rest for a game , wouldnt want him to pick up a leggy injury playing too much , we have enough of a squad dont we?
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that soton mascot staring at Ty thinking ' fuck hes huge ' :)
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Emery has made clear again this week the PL is the priority. And with Man City winning, Newcastle, Forest and Chelsea all having home games they should win, we have to get the business done today. So I’m glad he’s gone with a strong line up because we can’t make any mistakes.
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Agreed TV, our attitude needs to be right today though and not just turn up and expect to win. Got to work for it.
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early chance there great ball through
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Rashers should piss all over Bednarek
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All a bit cagey to start. Half chance there for Rashford and nearly a fuck up by us in our own box.
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Marc Albrighton on co commentary on Villa TV.
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Has to be a goal or 2 for Rashford here. Working hard.
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Away fans loud as fuck
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Has to be a goal or 2 for Rashford here. Working hard.
I dropped him from my fantasy team, so he's definitely getting a hattrick.
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Away fans must never go to the home games...always loud as fuck.
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Away fans must never go to the home games...always loud as fuck.
Microphones are usually placed near the away fans I think.
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Proper rapid Maatsen.
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Plus also they are all concentrated in one spot rather then diluted around four other stands.
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Emi saves
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Has to be a goal or 2 for Rashford here. Working hard.
I dropped him from my fantasy team, so he's definitely getting a hattrick.
Unfortunately I brought Asensio back so he won’t be assisting him.
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Away fans must never go to the home games...always loud as fuck.
Microphones are usually placed near the away fans I think.
Nah you can see all the windmuffs scattered along the touchline.
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Tielemans looking iffy
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Any one able to help with a stream please ?
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Can we test their keeper at some point?
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Youri will have a nice gash on his ankle there.
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Youri struggling
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Tielemans looking iffy
Think he got trod on? So hopefully just a painful bruise
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Need a goal to settle my nerves
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So much for finishing it before half time.
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This all smacks of energy conservation
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chance there
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I take it nothing is going on.
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too much overplaying there
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I take it nothing is going on.
Cash is putting his hand up for offside a lot.
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I take it nothing is going on.
It's walking football vs a flat back 10
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maatsen needs to improve his crossing
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Slowest match thread in history?
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I take it nothing is going on.
Very little of note. We will find a way to win this without getting out of 2nd gear. They’re shit and aren’t really trying to do much. We are just Man Citying them with passes and waiting for an opening. The risk is always the counter.
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I take it nothing is going on.
Cash is putting his hand up for offside a lot.
He’s a pointer, has to use his arms.
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Thanks.
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dont foul the glassman
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This is dreadful so far.
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dangerous FK for us to take here
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Good dives Morgan
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Shame Ross wasn't fit, this game is crying out for one of his scuffed goals
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We’re trying too hard. Need to calm down.
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Shame Ross wasn't fit, this game is crying out for one of his scuffed goals
How is he injured again? Wasn’t he on the bench on Wednesday?
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If we fail to win today then that’s it for CL next season. And the financial consequences are likely to hurt us.
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Asensio left footer, top corner outside the box....put a tenner on it.
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persistant fouling by Soton
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Jesus God I'm amazed this lot have got 10 points. COME ON VILLA
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
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If we fail to win today then that’s it for CL next season. And the financial consequences are likely to hurt us.
I'm not sure your name suits you
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A Tonev special from Cashy
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Trust us to be the only team in the division to not figure out how to create chances vs Southampton.
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Cash is so thick.
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ffs matty great football , shite shot
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nice bit of interplay before cash skied it
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C'mon Villa, back of the net before half time please
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We've had so much possession in their box and they've given away plenty of niggly fouls I can see us getting a pen at some point.
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Asensio left footer, top corner outside the box....put a tenner on it.
nearly
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We’re trying too hard. Need to calm down.
I don’t think we are. Nearly HT and only 6 pages.
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what about the advantage ref
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How the fuck did Harwood Bellis get an England cap?
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Albrighton is crap on Co-coms
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Albrighton is crap on Co-coms
Harsh
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
It's not Southampton I'm worried about, it's the team they're playing
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Southampton are toying with us so far, they’ll score when they want.
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Albrighton is crap on Co-coms
He needs to learn to get to the point. He rambles on far too much
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How the fuck did Harwood Bellis get an England cap?
Minimum quota of players with double barrel names
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
It's not Southampton I'm worried about, it's the team they're playing
70% poss, 12 shots and 4 corners.. that team?
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Southampton are actually attacking the opposition, wow!, that mus be another record broken.
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stevie wonder linesman
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
It's not Southampton I'm worried about, it's the team they're playing
70% poss, 12 shots and 4 corners.. that team?
Yes, the one that loves to shoot itself in the foot
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We struggled against these at Villa as well.
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HT. Boooooooo
Urns
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We are a very very kind team
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Need it to be Cardiffesque from here
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We struggled against these at Villa as well.
In fairness, that match was played in virtual hurricane conditions and should never have gone ahead in the first place.
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that corner was typical ofthe half
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Malen could certainly make a difference here.
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So who is the testimonial for.
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That was not good.
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Malen could certainly make a difference here.
yep. Id give him the full half
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If you let players kick other players for 40 odd minutes you get this kind of game.
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leicester have scored ..oh my
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We're not just playing underwhelmingly, we almost look like we're playing the league table rather than the opponent, like we don't expect it to take much effort to score against them. Need a lot more focus.
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We can kiss 5th goodbye if we fail to win against this shower of shit. Need to be much more decisive in the second half.
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The transition from defence to the forward line is snail pace, give them all the time to get organised. We have struggled against packed defences all season.
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leicester have scored ..oh my
They score sometimes away from home. Just never at their own place.
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
It's not Southampton I'm worried about, it's the team they're playing
70% poss, 12 shots and 4 corners.. that team?
Yeah, and against a team who look like they'll struggle next season as well: Goals 0
I get the energy conservation, of course. Hopefully Unai will let them off the leash a bit for the second half
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Not good. This has 1-0 Southampton written all over it unless we up it.
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They'll be delighted with a point, takes them level Derby. So unlikely they'll become more attacking.
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Soton cant even complete a pass. What’s everyone so pessimistic about..?
It's not Southampton I'm worried about, it's the team they're playing
70% poss, 12 shots and 4 corners.. that team?
Yeah, and against a team who look like they'll struggle next season as well: Goals 0
I get the energy conservation, of course. Hopefully Unai will let them off the leash a bit for the second half
There is no leash. There’s a bus.
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leicester have scored ..oh my
They score sometimes away from home. Just never at their own place.
Yep, they and Everton are doing us favours. Let's capitalise on it
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Last year when the fixtures piled up we had a nice cushion to fall back on. Such a shame we slipped up in the two Ipswich games for example. Not much room for error
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They've kept one clean sheet at home this season, we have to score against this lot.
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They've kept one clean sheet at home this season, we have to score against this lot.
Sounds like we're trying to make it two. Banana skin alert.
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stevie wonder linesman
I'm not overjoyed with his performance
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Better not be Ipswich all over .
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Word has it that Uni was heard shouting from he dressing room if you play like this in the second half, pre-season will involve a lot of Netball training.
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If we don’t win today we ought to just PSG not to bother next week.
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Patience.
Maatsen's final ball is poor, they are fouling whenever they feel like it and Albrighton showing Ferdinand how to be a thoughtful, balanced and unbiased co commentator.
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the players dont look happy with the ref there
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Need to move it a lot more quickly and a goal or two would be easy to come by. Unfortunately we’ve taken our foot off the gas before even putting it on the gas.
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Better
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Saints wonder kid Tyler Dibling on at half time.
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just shoot
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not shoot like that thou
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And preferably not Mings shooting.
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this is better rogers has tucked in a bit more, he's wasted wide
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Balls. Rashford did so well there. Poor cross
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Albright on does talk too much. Love him though
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Corner 8 will be the one.
Edit: nope
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This is not good enough.
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VAR
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Albrighton and on and on?
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VAR
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some shit corners
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VAR
…and?
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He meant at Brighton. Another penalty for them.
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We’ll lose this and it’ll be an absolute killer to our top 5 chances.
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VAR
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Maatsen went over in the box but it wasn’t worth looking at.
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Hard work this.
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For us having 83% possession we’ve done very little of real worth with it. We need fresh ideas.
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For us having 83% possession we’ve done very little of real worth with it. We need fresh ideas.
That's worrying.
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Corner number 10 incoming
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onana doing ok
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I thought Maatsen was clipped at he ran into the box.
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I thought Maatsen was clipped at he ran into the box.
Nah
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nearly OG
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18 shots but very little has been threatening.
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This is getting worrying.
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Anything but a win here skuppers top 5
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Changes for them. We need to make some also.
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I thought Maatsen was clipped at he ran into the box.
Worth a shout, we need something that's for sure.
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Despite our dominance and 18 shots our xG is 0.79. Which shows how few clear chances we've created.
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Ollie getting ready.
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they bringing on duncan goodhew for sulamena ..strange
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Very poor this
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Anything but a win here skuppers top 5
I’d go scupper but your way is more fun.
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We can become very predictable playing this way. So while we have a lot of the ball we slow down and allow the opponents to collect themselves too easily restricting what would be good opportunities.
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Malen as well.
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Anything but a win here skuppers top 5
Second this, thing is, of every team in the Premiership this is the one you would say all day long, 3 points.
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Anything but a win here skuppers top 5
I’d go scupper but your way is more fun.
I blame the coors
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Ollie and Malen coming on for Rashford and JJ
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The Villa curse of always playing shit against bottom of the table sides continues?
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One win from 4 games against Saints and Ipswich would be poor.
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One win from 4 games against Saints and Ipswich would be poor.
The difference between CL or not literally.
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Rashford clears the bar for a conversion.
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The Villa curse of always playing shit against bottom of the table sides continues?
Yep, however, there is shit teams and then there's Southampton.
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Poor free kick by Rashford. Really poor.
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We’re not scoring today.
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Will Watkins ever score for us again
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PENALTY
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Won by Ollie.
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PENALTY
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I feel physically sick.
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Penalty, wow! we need this so much
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Poor free kick by Rashford. Really poor.
Not sure how he’s muscled in on free kick. Has he ever scored one?
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Given away by Bednarek.
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Penalty Villa
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Come on Marco stick it away
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Whose taking it?
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FUCK OFF
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Bollocks.
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Poor free kick by Rashford. Really poor.
Not sure how he’s muscled in on free kick. Has he ever scored one?
There was that good one v Ipswich that led to a goal.
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Oh fuck off
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Not Marco no
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You must be kidding, seriously
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Well that’s that!
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Fuck sake Villa. FFS
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Effing hell
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Who said we're not scoring today!
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That’s just not good enough. Give it to Watkins.
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Let just pray we get Europa and not Conference league
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I feel sick.
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Plenty of time.
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It’s not our day. We came into this little period with a chance to make a real mark in the CL and keep up the pressure in the PL on the back of 7 straight wins and it could end up colossally shit.
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Are we the worst club at penalties in the world?
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I feel sick.
Physically mate.
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Feck off, Villa. This is classic Villa.
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As always after CL game we are shit.
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Awful penalty
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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OLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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GOAAAALLLL
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Thank Fcuk for that.
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At last......Ollie
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Offside?
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Ollie isn't good enough though.
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Thank the lord, Allah and gandalf for that!
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Thank fuck OLLLLLLLLIIIIIIEEEEEE
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Definitely a goal?
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Thank the fuck!
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Is it var ?
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Fantastic finish
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SAVAGE FINISH
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PWS would have already posted if it wasn't.
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Sue smith thinks his timing was perfect.
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Was it offside?
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Yes Ollie, he fucking loved that
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It stood, calm down
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What a superb pass again by Youri
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Pws goal?
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I love you Ollie
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With all the runs Rashford has made I bet he's thinking why the fuck couldn't you give me that ball.
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Will Watkins ever score for us again
Oh yeah? GTFI
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He always scores against Southampton.
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1911080097563496730
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No more crybaby comments today, eh?
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Let’s get one more now Villa
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
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Will Watkins ever score for us again
Ye old reverse psychology trick on the gods
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Who missed the penalty? Asencio?
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Don’t normally see Ollie celebrate that vociferously
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
I might care more about this than about where we finish in all the competitions....
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I saw a stat earlier that despite him being ‘crap’ and ‘not good enough’ he’s still 7th for goals and assists this season in the PL.
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Who missed the penalty? Asencio?
Yep
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Who missed the penalty? Asencio?
He plays for Real Madrid.
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
I might care more about this than about where we finish in all the competitions....
haha. I know what you mean.
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Who missed the penalty? Asencio?
He plays for Real Madrid.
;D ;D ;D
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Heck of a goal by Ollie
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
Thinking that myself
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
And me how many more does he need.
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On for 7 minutes, wins a pen and scores a stunner.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALEN
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GOALLLL
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
And me how many more does he need.
1 behind Gabby
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Subs worked again.
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Malen, job done, build up to PSG now.
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What a fucking goal by Malen
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Easy as you like.
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Get in. I'm desperate for him to break Gabby's record.
And me how many more does he need.
Two more to have the record outright.
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Never in doubt.
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you knew he wasnt missing that
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We’re in the positive. Woo hoo!
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So happy for Malen.
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I feel physically better now.
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Malen deserves a start
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1911081649447604705
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Well done Donyell
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We should miss penalties more often...
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So happy for Malen.
Good for him. 3 goals in 3
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Not a bad pass through to Rogers from Onana.
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Still in contention.
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Clean sheet now please Villa
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Never in doubt. Could not have been a better game for us coming when it did.
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Positive GD. First time we have said that in awhile. (0 not counting).
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Come on Everton. And Foxes.
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Malen deserves a start
He is an excelllent sub to throw on once the game gets stretched.
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Positive GD. First time we have said that in awhile. (0 not counting).
That's still crazy when you think of it, as we're currently fifth
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Top five for now.
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there was a great ball by Onana in that goal too
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Come on Everton. And Foxes.
And Ipswich tomorrow!
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So happy for Malen.
Same. And Ollie too. The fact that these two scored what are hopefully the winning goals makes it sweeter.
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4 points behind Forest as it stands
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SJM and Garcia on.
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4 points behind Forest as it stands
We can definitely reel Forest in and maybe Chelsea.
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5 point gap appearing between 7th and 8th. Could be 7 by the end of the week but hope not.
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Good save Emi
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SJM and Garcia on.
And SJM booked now, Dwayne Dibley sold him a nice dummy.
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We are doing this having not won in 8 earlier this season.
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4 points behind Forest as it stands
We can definitely reel Forest in and maybe Chelsea.
Chelsea are the best bet I think. Not in great form and hardest fixtures.
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Onana off for Bouba
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monchi better be tapping up dibbling after the game, the kid is an elite ball carrier just jinked past mcginn like not many do
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7 added mins
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4 points behind Forest as it stands
We can definitely reel Forest in and maybe Chelsea.
Chelsea are the best bet I think. Not in great form and hardest fixtures.
They've only beaten dross recently.
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Leicester hit the inside of the post.
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4 points behind Forest as it stands
We can definitely reel Forest in and maybe Chelsea.
Chelsea are the best bet I think. Not in great form and hardest fixtures.
They've only beaten dross recently.
Yeah, I meant the best bet for us to reel in.
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Leicester hit the inside of the post.
Their own?
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7??????
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Leicester hit the inside of the post.
Their own?
No. They’re all over Brighton.
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Another penalty for us
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Pen
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Asensio again
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Let’s score this shall we?
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Ffs we need the goal difference.
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Everton!
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I would hate for Marco to get the Villa disease of missing pens.
Fuck me man. We are fucking cursed at penalty taking since AEG left
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Everton ahead.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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SJM on the rebound
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Should have let Ollie take it
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Ramsdale definitely has the beating of Asensio then.
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I would hate for Marco to get the Villa disease of missing pens
8)
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Everton ahead.
FuckingA
Also should have let Ollie take the pen
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Another Villa player not up to taking penalties.
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Hope that doesn’t undermine Marco’s confidence
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Hope that doesn’t undermine Marco’s confidence
Just said that to my mate
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needs to clear his head I'm betting on a penalty shootout on tues
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Another Villa player not up to taking penalties.
He missed 2 against chelsea in the FA cup final on Football manager today. Lol
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Asensio is not helping my Fantasy team with all these penalty misses. Think he'll be on minus points now.
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Well done Moyesy!
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God help us if it goes to a penalty shoot out at Wembley!
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
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Was very poorly struck though. Definitely needs to get his hitting boots on again.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1911085797425430808
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Excellent day so far. 3 pts, 3 pts behind Forest and way ahead of Brighton now.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Mine too unless I accidentally picked the Madrid one.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
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Was very poorly struck though. Definitely needs to get his hitting boots on again.
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1911085797425430808
Bloody awful
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
No, it won’t.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
No, it won’t.
he's been awarded the assist.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
No, it won’t.
he's been awarded the assist.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cvgp13vr6mjt
I go by the BBC.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
No, it won’t.
he's been awarded the assist.
I go by the BBC.
They don't award the points on Fantasy Football though.
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That is why I was asking the assist rules for the FPL?
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That is why I was asking the assist rules for the FPL?
FPL go by Opta I believe. He's been awarded the assist anyway.
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This is my fault for putting Asensio back into my FL team.
Hehe, his miss goes down as an assist.
Will it? Came back off the keeper so do they just count last "friendly" player touched.
No, it won’t.
he's been awarded the assist.
I go by the BBC.
They don't award the points on Fantasy Football though.
Fair enough. I need to update my records then.
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Assists were the slippery slope which led to transitions, low blocks, high lines, turnovers and all the other sorts of Americanised nonsense which crept into football.