Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on April 03, 2025, 10:23:57 PM
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Lee Marshall's take on it all.
https://heroesandvillains.info/2025/04/03/unhappy-at-the-happiest-of-times/
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We did partner with viagaogo before for fans to resell .
This sounds different ?
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Done. Great article.
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I doubt the clubs will be selling £12 tickets like we used to on Seatwave/Viagogo.
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We did partner with viagaogo before for fans to resell .
This sounds different ?
We did it at a time when the going rate for a resold ticket at Villa which had originally cost between £20-£30, was about £5.60!
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Good article. But I can’t help thinking Heck’s getting a lot of heat for something that’s not his doing. Football has changed, in many ways for the better but in some ways - community, loyalty - for the worse. We can either compete or not in that new world. As a longstanding fan who has also been to Simod cup games, I would rather we did compete in this new world, despite the drawbacks of doing so.
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Couldn’t agree more with Lee….
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Good article. But I can’t help thinking Heck’s getting a lot of heat for something that’s not his doing. Football has changed, in many ways for the better but in some ways - community, loyalty - for the worse. We can either compete or not in that new world. As a longstanding fan who has also been to Simod cup games, I would rather we did compete in this new world, despite the drawbacks of doing so.
Of course any of us would rather we compete in this new world than not, I just think most of us would rather it wasn’t a new world. Even the article says he’s only doing what the owners want. I’ve said elsewhere, the fact that it’s the game as a whole, not just us, doesn’t make it any more palateable.
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Good article. But I can’t help thinking Heck’s getting a lot of heat for something that’s not his doing. Football has changed, in many ways for the better but in some ways - community, loyalty - for the worse. We can either compete or not in that new world. As a longstanding fan who has also been to Simod cup games, I would rather we did compete in this new world, despite the drawbacks of doing so.
Heck is a turbo-charged, extreme end of that trend.
I mean you only have to look at the stadium. The clubs around us want to increase hospitality and capacity whereas since he arrived our sole focus is hospitality and making it all a more exclusive (and more expensive) experience. If Man U can plan for 90,000 at Old Trafford there is no excuse for us not aiming for 50,000 minimum at Villa Park. We are much to focussed on finding areas we can make corporate.
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Its a very good article and I agree with all of it.
No one disputes the need to increase revenues, but the way he has gone about it is unedifying and unnecessary. If it wasn't they would not have to lie about stuff.
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Good read Lee.
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Who is Lee Marshall?
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Great Article - sums up how I feel in a nutshell.
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I've told myself to enjoy the next couple of seasons, and hopefully the success, as given the direction of travel I'll probably knock going down on the head.
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Who is Lee Marshall?
Legion, finally stepping out of the shadows as a hypeman for D.Woodhall
Well either him or the fullback who used to play for the Baggies.
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Who is Lee Marshall?
CT
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The argument about PSG theory is pure conspiracy theory based on a poor understanding of maths. The only category we can be certain of is the maximum number of people with 5 aways, Monaco.
There are a variety of ways that 3 away tickets could have been obtained, so the redundancy stands to reason that close to 2000 people are in that bracket. Eg those that did Bruges I, Leipzig and Monaco aren’t necessarily the same that did Monaco, Bruges I and Young Boys.
Following on from that, the £1.600 hospitality package was only for category 1 tickets (which aren't in the away end) and included a seat on the club flight. What kind of plane do you think the club are chartering for an hour flight that it can seat hundreds of people in the away end??? What kind of hospitality members do you think want to be held in captivity by the Gendarmes for an hour or more post match???
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Its a very good article and I agree with all of it.
No one disputes the need to increase revenues, but the way he has gone about it is unedifying and unnecessary. If it wasn't they would not have to lie about stuff.
It was just our luck to find this geezer just when things were so brilliant. His methods have sickened me. If he finally gives stadium expansion the green light I might overlook certain things but the handling of that, from the communications to the actual fact we have wasted more time doing nothing, has really pissed me off
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I've told myself to enjoy the next couple of seasons, and hopefully the success, as given the direction of travel I'll probably knock going down on the head.
This is the reason I've been so vocal about the FA cup criteria. If I get to see us win one FA cup after all the years of at best mediocrity, but mostly utter shite, I can call it a day a happy man and the americans can take our sport (they are anyway, so it's not really for debate).
As it stands, we're being removed before we've even had that success.
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The owners need to push Heck to get the stadium expansion underway as soon as possible. We really need the capacity to be 50,000 plus. I've never really liked the North Stand. It spoils the ground to a degree. Get it demolished and rebuilt !
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Putting Yanks in charge of football is like putting Uncle Albert in charge of a type 22 destroyer, it'll run aground or sink whilst everyone is trying to jump ship.
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The owners need to push Heck to get the stadium expansion underway as soon as possible. We really need the capacity to be 50,000 plus. I've never really liked the North Stand. It spoils the ground to a degree. Get it demolished and rebuilt !
It's unbelievable. Ask yourself what other big club in our position right now would be keeping a stand that's ugly and doesn't even span the width of the pitch
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Agree with all of this article. After many years of having a season ticket, this will be my last. Tipping point for me was being priced out of the CL games so, Mr Heck can have his wish and get another tourist to fill my seat for the seasons to come.
When Villa have had no match, I’ve attended non league matches and that has brought pleasure back to me for football, without being ripped off.
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Putting Yanks in charge of football is like putting Uncle Albert in charge of a type 22 destroyer, it'll run aground or sink whilst everyone is trying to jump ship.
Nothing to do with his nationality, all to do with he only understands the price of everything, the value of nothing. He also doesn't understand how to communicate other than what a brilliant job he thinks he's doing. Great article from CT and certainly balances the new vlogger I saw yesterday, some I'm alright Jack fan blowing smoke up Heck's arse.
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Putting Yanks in charge of football is like putting Uncle Albert in charge of a type 22 destroyer, it'll run aground or sink whilst everyone is trying to jump ship.
The “yank” who saved this club when it was on its arse is presumably different?
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Putting Yanks in charge of football is like putting Uncle Albert in charge of a type 22 destroyer, it'll run aground or sink whilst everyone is trying to jump ship.
The “yank” who saved this club when it was on its arse is presumably different?
Saved is stretching things a bit in this instance. Two shrewd asset investors buy an undervalued asset with potential from a guy desperate to sell. A few years later their asset is on shaky ground after a defeat at Fulham. A gentleman from Spain came in and their asset is now worth several times more than it was on that night in West London. Is the way I see it....but this thread is about Heck, who is,and always will be, a plonker
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I don't think people appreciate how bad things were. It took more than just a gentleman from Spain coming in. It's almost as if their money has meant nothing.
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We didn't have a pot to piss in and were facing a winding up order. We've gone from that to where we are now. Without these owners we could be arsing around who knows how far down the ladder.
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They've been the best pair of billionaire bastards you could have hoped for.
Come the revolution they may be spared.
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The owners need to push Heck to get the stadium expansion underway as soon as possible. We really need the capacity to be 50,000 plus. I've never really liked the North Stand. It spoils the ground to a degree. Get it demolished and rebuilt !
It's unbelievable. Ask yourself what other big club in our position right now would be keeping a stand that's ugly and doesn't even span the width of the pitch
You should be aware by now to why the expansion has stalled.
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The owners need to push Heck to get the stadium expansion underway as soon as possible. We really need the capacity to be 50,000 plus. I've never really liked the North Stand. It spoils the ground to a degree. Get it demolished and rebuilt !
It's unbelievable. Ask yourself what other big club in our position right now would be keeping a stand that's ugly and doesn't even span the width of the pitch
I would have wanted the NS knocked down and rebuilt but it ain't happening. They are spending a lot of money on the existing structure. The best we can hope for is a widening and re-roofing job which is a cop out but it is what it is.
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The North Stand is full for every game. The views are great and people in there don't generally moan about from what I see in here.
It sounds like the Upper has got better facilities already and plans are afoot to expand it.
The tickets are cheaper than elsewhere.
I'm not sure I understand what the problem is to be honest.
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Reckon this is a game of "would you rather"
Would you rather have universal respect or unlimited power?
He went for power and cracked on, recognising he wasn't going to able to take everyone on the journey.