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Title: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: AV84 on April 02, 2025, 09:55:48 PM
What do you think?

As things stand right now, we can win the FA Cup and qualify for Europa League, but we finish outside European spots in the league.

Or...

We lose the SF and QF, but finish 5th in the league?

What are you taking?
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Richard E on April 02, 2025, 09:57:16 PM
FA Cup trumps everything for me.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: villadelph on April 02, 2025, 09:58:37 PM
Obviously, a trophy. No?
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rory on April 02, 2025, 09:58:55 PM
FA Cup trumps everything for me.

Same.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: TaxDodger on April 02, 2025, 09:59:12 PM
My order of preference;

1. Win the Champions League
2. Win the FA Cup
3. Qualify for the Champions League via the league
4. Qualify for the Europa League via the league
5. Qualify for the Conference League via the league
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 02, 2025, 09:59:24 PM
If I could choose between the trophies I'd choose the European Cup, but we have to win a trophy so clearly winning the FA Cup is better than finishing fifth and winning sod all.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 02, 2025, 09:59:46 PM
My order of preference;

1. Win the Champions League
2. Win the FA Cup
3. Qualify for the Champions League via the league
4. Qualify for the Europa League via the league
5. Qualify for the Conference League via the league

Surely 1. should be win both? 🙂
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 02, 2025, 09:59:48 PM
Finishing 4th, winning the FAC and CL. Time to take everything and stop thinking that at best it's either or.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Villan For Life on April 02, 2025, 09:59:58 PM
I want a trophy.

BUT we need the income that further Champions League qualification brings, this helps with PSR and probably means that we don’t have to sell players to comply.

Such is modern football
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 02, 2025, 10:04:03 PM
Finishing 4th, winning the FAC and CL. Time to take everything and stop thinking that at best it's either or.

Yep.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 02, 2025, 10:16:30 PM
FA Cup option 1000000000%.

Let's have a massive trophy winning parade and then on the booze for all of May bank holiday week.

You don't get that for finishing 5th.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Smirker on April 02, 2025, 10:18:44 PM
Irrelevant cos we're winning the CL.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: hipkiss92 on April 02, 2025, 10:22:24 PM
FA Cup option 1000000000%.

Let's have a massive trophy winning parade and then on the booze for all of May bank holiday week.

You don't get that for finishing 5th.

May Bank Holiday weekend is CL Final!
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Legion on April 02, 2025, 10:23:27 PM
FA Cup trumps everything for me.

This.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: not3bad on April 02, 2025, 10:28:29 PM
I want to see us win the cup while I walk this earth. Now, not next year.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 02, 2025, 10:35:47 PM
Whilst I can't see the gods doing any meaningful smiting as a result of this thread, I have a horrible fear that it's making them twitch a bit.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 02, 2025, 10:54:40 PM
We have threads like this every year and we always win fuck all. Maybe we should start a thread on how would we like to be disappointed?
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 02, 2025, 11:16:17 PM
I think that would be for the best.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rory on April 02, 2025, 11:21:00 PM
I wouldn't like to find out that SE is a Mormon. That would be crushing.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: DB on April 02, 2025, 11:21:40 PM
These questions are pointless.
Why does it have to be either / or?
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: not3bad on April 02, 2025, 11:25:49 PM
Another vote the closing the thread here. I'm tired of these kinds of choices.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: AV84 on April 02, 2025, 11:31:04 PM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rory on April 02, 2025, 11:34:11 PM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.

You're not?

But since I cast my vote, I've already had someone start work on my 'Aston Villa - FA Cup winners 2025' tattoo.

If we don't win now, you're paying to have that removed.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: AV84 on April 02, 2025, 11:35:14 PM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.

You're not?

But since I cast my vote, I've already had someone start work on my 'Aston Villa - FA Cup winners 2025' tattoo.

If we don't win now, you're paying to have that removed.

I sent a screen shot of the poll to the admin at Football God HQ, so it's definitely happening, don't worry.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 02, 2025, 11:37:21 PM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.

Just ignore that bolt of lightning that's destroyed your house because someone started a "how rubbish is lightning" poll on Heroes and Villains. 🙁
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rory on April 02, 2025, 11:46:49 PM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.

You're not?

But since I cast my vote, I've already had someone start work on my 'Aston Villa - FA Cup winners 2025' tattoo.

If we don't win now, you're paying to have that removed.

I sent a screen shot of the poll to the admin at Football God HQ, so it's definitely happening, don't worry.

Phew!
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 03, 2025, 12:09:39 AM
I want it all (give it to me)
And I want it right now, right now*


*And there was Eamonn thinking he had an exclusivity on posting shit lyrics.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Martyn Smith on April 03, 2025, 01:46:13 AM
This is the problem when finishing fifth in the league brings a greater reward than winning the country's premier domestic knockout trophy. It seems absurd at first glance to prefer the former, but it does have a higher yield

Platini said yonks back that a country's FA knockout cup should yield a PL place and I've always agreed
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Martyn Smith on April 03, 2025, 01:48:57 AM
FA Cup option 1000000000%.

Let's have a massive trophy winning parade and then on the booze for all of May bank holiday week.

You don't get that for finishing 5th.

May Bank Holiday weekend is CL Final!

No it isn't, it's the weekend of the last day of the PL. CL is the weekend after
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on April 03, 2025, 03:01:22 AM
Lighten up, it's just a hypothetical to generate a bit of conversation. Ignore the thread if you don't want to be involved in it. It's not like I'm asking you to choose a real outcome.

I'll never understand why people have to explain the old 'it isn't either or' on an hypothetical question, like people aren't aware that we can actually do it all. Mad bastards that aren't choosing FA Cup and Europa League, though.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on April 03, 2025, 07:01:06 AM
Let’s just hope we continue our fine form for the remainder of the season, and why shouldn’t we with the squad looking fit and fresh and players coming into form at the perfect time.

If that happens, this will potentially be the best season we’ve had in 40 odd years.

Massively exciting times.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: AV84 on April 03, 2025, 07:03:03 AM
The fact these two things are genuine possibilities at the moment too is very exciting. It's a hypothetical question, but both options are genuinely on the table for us.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 03, 2025, 07:45:43 AM
If I could choose between the trophies I'd choose the European Cup, but we have to win a trophy so clearly winning the FA Cup is better than finishing fifth and winning sod all.

Agreed.

I think I might die of happiness if we won the European Cup again. Imagine beating RM and Barcelona on the way. Even beating Arse in the semi-final would be tremendous fun (while nowhere near as epic).
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Drummond on April 03, 2025, 08:06:22 AM
If I could choose between the trophies I'd choose the European Cup, but we have to win a trophy so clearly winning the FA Cup is better than finishing fifth and winning sod all.

Agreed.

I think I might die of happiness if we won the European Cup again. Imagine beating RM and Barcelona on the way. Even beating Arse in the semi-final would be tremendous fun (while nowhere near as epic).

Whilst I'm loathe to agree, I do. The European Cup is just the best trophy there is to win.

The FA Cup is the one I've always wanted though, and if we won it, I'm sure I'd die and contented man. Full house in my lifetime thank you very much.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: darren woolley on April 03, 2025, 08:35:27 AM
FA Cup for me I would rather have silverware than finishing in the CL places.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Legion on April 07, 2025, 11:09:54 PM
FA Cup, all day every day. To complete the set for me.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 11, 2025, 12:58:27 PM
Well, I think that is fairly conclusive.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Towser on April 11, 2025, 01:20:28 PM
FA Cup, I am running out of time, seen us win everything except this, born 3 years too late for the last one.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Max Villan on April 11, 2025, 08:15:55 PM
I'm going with europe now. Cup would have been nice but can live without it.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 11, 2025, 08:19:51 PM
I'm going with europe now. Cup would have been nice but can live without it.

That seems a little odd, given the fuss you've been making about getting tickets for the cup games.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: Rico on April 11, 2025, 09:20:50 PM
I am literally obsessed with winning the FA Cup, but I wouldn't mind the CL to be honest! Although in all honesty I want to win them both and finish fourth. Greedy I know, but we've been on starvation rations for 40 years!
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: olaftab on April 11, 2025, 09:26:38 PM
FA Cup trumps everything for me.
No need to mention Trump, please.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: olaftab on April 11, 2025, 09:28:31 PM
I'm going with europe now. Cup would have been nice but can live without it.
That seems a little odd, given the fuss you've been making about getting tickets for the cup games.
He’s only 18 so both things are understandable.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: VILLA MOLE on April 11, 2025, 09:45:24 PM
FA Cup please and a European place. oh and a new North stand.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: German James on April 12, 2025, 09:04:50 AM
Wow! This Champions League malarkey really does bring new challenges, doesn't it? I had no idea we had to choose.
I think I have to go for the round badge.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: aj2k77 on April 12, 2025, 10:10:07 AM
I'm going with europe now. Cup would have been nice but can live without it.

What's the point in playing football?
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: eamonn on April 12, 2025, 10:56:43 AM
I want it all (give it to me)
And I want it right now, right now*


*And there was Eamonn thinking he had an exclusivity on posting shit lyrics.

Hey!
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 15, 2025, 09:53:44 PM
Don't want to unnerve anyone but we win the FA Cup with that second half display replicated in the SF and potential final.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: aj2k77 on April 15, 2025, 10:06:28 PM
We have shown that rather than wilting we are flourishing playing on multiple fronts. Use tonight's performance as a spring board to first smash Newcastle then dispatch Crystal Palace.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: AV84 on April 15, 2025, 10:12:44 PM
Hopefully Palace can do us a favour and dispatch Newcastle first.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 15, 2025, 10:16:42 PM
Top 5 is a must, we have to get back on this stage. Win the cup as well.
Title: Re: Win the FA Cup and get Europa or CL no trophy
Post by: wince on April 15, 2025, 10:19:55 PM
Top 5 is a must, we have to get back on this stage. Win the cup as well.
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