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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on March 18, 2025, 06:16:24 PM
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30th March, 13:30 kick-off.
Don't care if it's early 8)
FTF!
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Earliest ever I imagine. Still FV will approve.
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Far too early.
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Thread Title should be 'The Amfy Derby - Pre-Match Thread'.
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How early is this
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30th March, 13:30 kick-off.
Don't care if it's early 8)
FTF!
Applause .
It’s our next game .
Emery is focussing on it why can’t we?
In the Merry Wives of Windsor:
Better three hours too soon than a minute too late.
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Preston do not have the capacity to operate the SAOT system at their ground but they will have VAR.
Let’s hope also they don’t have the capacity to beat Villa.
I go for a win of course as am forecasting since start of year to win a trophy - that being the FA Cup.
They’ll be rotation for this given the Brighton game on the Wednesday away is a massive must win game. Then forest on the Saturday before PSG.
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30th March, 13:30 kick-off.
Don't care if it's early 8)
FTF!
Honestly!
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It's too early because we have a rake of internationals involving our players and the focus will be these first. Not the matches but how our players get on.
And hopefully don't get injured.
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30th March, 13:30 kick-off.
Don't care if it's early 8)
FTF!
Applause .
It’s our next game .
Emery is focussing on it why can’t we?
In the Merry Wives of Windsor:
Better three hours too soon than a minute too late.
Thanks mate 8)
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Everything is early about this game....
The pre-match thread, the kick-off time.... and worst of all, the clocks go FORWARD the night before this game too!
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Too early, I might turn my thoughts towards it once the game against Al Ain is out of the way.
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Too early, I might turn my thoughts towards it once the game against Al Ain is out of the way.
It's a fair point , where is the Al Ain match thread
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We should play Olsen in this.
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2-0
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We should play Olsen in this.
Why would we need to do that? Fear of him getting injured or something else?
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2-0
Imagine my shock.
Comfortable Villa win. Onto the semi’s.
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Full strength. Take it seriously. No Olsen, no pissing about. Win. No matter how,
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Full strength. Take it seriously. No Olsen, no pissing about. Win. No matter how,
Agreed. Let's stamp our authority from the beginning and then substitute our better players as the game goes on.
This is a golden opportunity to win a major trophy. You know it, I know it, but most importantly, Unai knows it.
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Onana should be ready to start this one. https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1902327781674963175
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We need to be going full bollocks on this. No question.
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Thanks to whoever stickied this 8)
Just 11 days to go!!!
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Onana should be ready to start this one. https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1902327781674963175
And then back to the treatment room.
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Maybe we could try Onana in goal. Bet he'd be better than the Yanited one.
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We should play Olsen in this.
I do want to try win this cup so i think if emi is fit then there is no chance i would go with olsen
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I feel physically sick.
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You often do when it comes to the Villa. We've come with a health warning since you were a wee chap, you surely know the drill by now.
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Just on the offchance - my eldest is moving to Osaka in a couple of days and was wondering whether any other H&Vers happened to be there and fancied watching the game together.
Kanpai!
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Preston and Osaka twinned at last.
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Preston and Osaka - Twinned At Last.
I think that album peaked at No. 74. They disbanded soon after.
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Another 8 days before this takes place.
This is the longest, most painful 2 and half weeks of non football ever.
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I feel physically sick.
And me. Have been trying to blank it all out, based on previous experience of Villa fcuk-ups! ;)
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Looking forward to this as I have managed to get a ticket - it would be so disappointing if we fail to beat Preston
Tight game - 1 - 2
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Another 8 days before this takes place.
This is the longest, most painful 2 and half weeks of non football ever.
Im ok with it tbh. A welcome break to focus on other things
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Another 8 days before this takes place.
This is the longest, most painful 2 and half weeks of non football ever.
Im ok with it tbh. A welcome break to focus on other things
For once I agree with Demitri. As much as I love the Villa it's a nice break between two very intense periods of important games.
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Personally I'm hating the long gap between games but for the squad/club I think it's exactly what we needed after a really heavy schedule in February and another rough month to come in April.
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I use the International break as an opportunity to go on holiday & recharge. Hopefully the players that can, have done so too. We could be in for a couple of memorable months.
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We should play Olsen in this.
I’m 51 and have seen us lose two finals in this, for a club of our size and history that really is shit. We should absolutely not dick around here with concepts like not playing Martinez.
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You often do when it comes to the Villa. We've come with a health warning since you were a wee chap, you surely know the drill by now.
Always mate.
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Olsen is so shit he got a guard of honour for keeping a clean sheet. Full strength and make subs if possible.
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We should play Olsen in this.
I’m 51 and have seen us lose two finals in this, for a club of our size and history that really is shit. We should absolutely not dick around here with concepts like not playing Martinez.
Amen.
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Hopefully not a repeat of the Oldham game
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Hopefully not a repeat of the Oldham game
Agreed, or sign Tony Cascarino the day after !!
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Preston have quite a few players injured, Cup Tied or Suspended amd obviously KKH can't play.
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Preston have not lost at home in 14 games.
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Preston have not lost at home in 14 games.
Didn't Bruges have a similar record?
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1.0 HT
1.3 FT
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Has anyone had their tickets yet for this game?
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Has anyone had their tickets yet for this game?
They are e tickets mate. I anticipate we will have them by Thursday.
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Thank you for the confirmation of the e ticket
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Just on the offchance - my eldest is moving to Osaka in a couple of days and was wondering whether any other H&Vers happened to be there and fancied watching the game together.
Kanpai!
I'm flying out on the 3rd so will be in osaka for the cl quarter final. Had assumed I'd be watching in bed but if there's somewhere to watch it I'd be game!
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0-4 - I think it'll be tight for about half an hour before we get the first but once we're in front we'll settle and pick them off. Malen and Asensio to both score.
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Now all that international shit is over, we can start to look forward to real football returning.
Thank fuck for that.
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This won't be easy , expecting a tight game . Does it go to pens or replay
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There are no replays now. Extra time then penalties, if required.
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Malen's had a tough few weeks of it at Villa and now Netherlands. It'd be good to see him stake a claim in this game as with Bailey, Rashford and Asensio preferred, and his omission from the CL squad, he's looking a bit of a pointless signing.
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I'm going for a 3-1 win.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
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Why? He's done well when he's played.
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Why? He's done well when he's played.
Some people just don't have any patience whatsoever that's why.
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He has had an unfortunate start, with being excluded from CL squad then sickness.
I have high hopes he is a viable alternative to Bailey.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
I am too.
And I know it doesn't stand up to any actual examination of the facts. It just feels that way.
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Is this on telly, does anyone know?
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Yes that’s what I meant. I have no rationale for it. Other than we are obviously going to lose him to Spurs in the summer. According to the press. See also Berson.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
I am too.
And I know it doesn't stand up to any actual examination of the facts. It just feels that way.
Yeah, I get this too. I think his future will depend a lot on if we plan to flog Ollie this summer.
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Is this on telly, does anyone know?
BBC 1 I believe.
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Why? He's done well when he's played.
Some people just don't have any patience whatsoever that's why.
He was left out of the CL squad, a couple of weeks after signing. Villa being in the CL was surely a big reason for wanting to join us. Then we sign two "galacticos" attacking player plus the lad he's meant to usurp, Bailey Leon, has started to look like an actual footballer again.
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Just on the offchance - my eldest is moving to Osaka in a couple of days and was wondering whether any other H&Vers happened to be there and fancied watching the game together.
Kanpai!
I'm flying out on the 3rd so will be in osaka for the cl quarter final. Had assumed I'd be watching in bed but if there's somewhere to watch it I'd be game!
That's brilliant Ger! Thank you. Mini Rodders - in real life he towers over me - is no stranger to a late night, so I'm sure would be well up for it.
He's currently in the air over the Baltic so I'll DM you once I've communicated with him if that's ok.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
I am too.
And I know it doesn't stand up to any actual examination of the facts. It just feels that way.
It’s always possible if course but I just assumed he was going through the Emery reprogramming regime.
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Tickets starting to be sent out, just had mine.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
I am too.
And I know it doesn't stand up to any actual examination of the facts. It just feels that way.
It’s always possible if course but I just assumed he was going through the Emery reprogramming regime.
Yep, he's here for the long term and they want to make sure he fits, no will or need to do that with Asensio or Rashford but even they have been given time to bed in.
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Do tickets need printing or scan from phone ok?
Or is that a question for Preston ticket office!
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Printing
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Might just be me; but I have had a nightmare printing the tickets, the PDF wouldn't load.
The ticket office was very good and sent me another email.
Just in case others have trouble. :D :D
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Just to warn you, the email says "This is not your ticket". If you have a pdf attachment, it is.
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Hi
It work fine in the second email, the PDF worked. 😁😁
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Surely these can be scanned at the ground? Do people still possess printers?
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Surely these can be scanned at the ground? Do people still possess printers?
The printers are outside each away turnstile. You may want to get there early.
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You'll be fine with the on phone PDF.
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I’m already getting Sanson vibes with Malen.
I am too.
And I know it doesn't stand up to any actual examination of the facts. It just feels that way.
It’s always possible if course but I just assumed he was going through the Emery reprogramming regime.
Yep, he's here for the long term and they want to make sure he fits, no will or need to do that with Asensio or Rashford but even they have been given time to bed in.
I just think the landscape for Villa, and Malen particularly, changed massively when Duran went. All of a sudden the books allowed for Marcus and Marco to come in, and Donny dropped down the pecking order. What we qualify for will probably dictate his future I think.
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At PNE I have been scanning off my phone the same as at Villa all season so I'd be surprised if you needed to print it.
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Why? He's done well when he's played.
Agreed , can’t believe the previous posts pretty much writing him off. Beggars belief.
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At PNE I have been scanning off my phone the same as at Villa all season so I'd be surprised if you needed to print it.
Cheers Agent Amfy , might be a nervous Nelly and print mine anyway
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You'll be fine with the on phone PDF.
Like.
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Back to the game itself . Strongest team available .
-------- Martinez-----------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
---- Kamara - McGinn ----
Rogers ------------- Ramsey
---- Rashford - Watkins ----
We will need an eye on Wednesday too when we will need to rotate a few
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Tielemans and Asensio aren't in the strongest team available?
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Tielemans and Asensio aren't in the strongest team available?
The team that finishes the game is the one that wins it . Ascensio has been used well from the bench so far , like a far far better version of the Colombian kid who went to the desert .
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Surely mcginn is knackered and Onana should partner Tielemans who at least has had a little rest with his suspension.
If Watkins not 100% then I would start with Malen. Would also play Maatson and save Digne for Brighton
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Them 1 Us 4, they're shit.
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Brazil v Argentina isn't till tomorrow night.Hope Emi can be back for Sunday lunchtime.
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Brazil v Argentina isn't till tomorrow night.Hope Emi can be back for Sunday lunchtime.
It's midnight tonight our time.
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Olsen then . Jeez
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Olsen then . Jeez
No it will be Martinez.
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Well, no. Martinez played the full ninety minutes in our home league games with Palace and Everton and, in each case, he'd had a shorter break after an international match than he will have had before the Preston game comes around.
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At PNE I have been scanning off my phone the same as at Villa all season so I'd be surprised if you needed to print it.
Cheers Agent Amfy , might be a nervous Nelly and print mine anyway
It's absolutely what I'd do.
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Tickets have arrived but there appears to be no download to apple or google wallet icons? I've printed them off in any case so no big deal really.
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At PNE I have been scanning off my phone the same as at Villa all season so I'd be surprised if you needed to print it.
Cheers Agent Amfy , might be a nervous Nelly and print mine anyway
It's absolutely what I'd do.
😁
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Tielemans and Asensio aren't in the strongest team available?
The team that finishes the game is the one that wins it . Ascensio has been used well from the bench so far , like a far far better version of the Colombian kid who went to the desert .
There's no way Tielemans doesn't start in our Strongest team available, Player of the season for me.
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Not sure I still think Emery may look to use the squad given the week ahead and all those who have been on transatlantic flights . Not what I'd do but Emery knows best . Still think Olsen may play .
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I'll tell you something, if Olsen starts and we lose, this website could reach 030303 levels.
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So if Olsen starts it is going to be all his fault if we lose?
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Right, with the pesky internationals out of the way we now have clarity on any injuries to our players and that looks good at the moment.
Despite our progress over the last few years domestically and in Europe, this feels like the biggest game for quite some time given the prize at the end, our wait for a trophy and the FA Cup being the Holy Grail for many of us. I feel a sea change in Emery's attitude to the Cup and this has been reflected in his team sections and this shouldn't be any different here. Perhaps he didn't realise the importance of winning this and the penny has now dropped ? We absolutely need to field our best side, we have a game on Weds but given the squad we have we really should be able to cope with both without "throwing" either game.
1-3
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To be fair, Emery's always played strong sides in the FA Cup. The only time he didn't was Stevenage at home, and I think he was justified in thinking the side we put out that day would beat a League Two side comfortably.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ceqj0ddy9j8o
As two of his former clubs aim to scale new heights in the FA Cup this weekend, Simon Grayson is getting ready to conquer his fears 4,500 miles away in Nepal.
"The scariest thing they've mentioned is going to Everest base camp, which is a two-hour helicopter ride away," the former Preston North End manager and Aston Villa player tells BBC Sport from Kathmandu.
"I'm not one for seeking thrills or anything like that."
Grayson is a four-time promotion-winning boss closing in on 800 games as a manager.
His latest challenge has taken the Yorkshireman to South Asia where he is in charge of Lalitpur City for the 2025 Nepal Super League season, which starts on Saturday.
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Unai did give an interview not too long back that sounded like he had gained an understanding of what the cup means to supporters. I may have been reading what I wanted to hear into it though. I know it's not a financial imperative, but fook me sideways with a spanner, it's the FA Cup. It's intrinsic to Villa's history. Lets seriously try and win it please.
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To be fair, Emery's always played strong sides in the FA Cup. The only time he didn't was Stevenage at home, and I think he was justified in thinking the side we put out that day would beat a League Two side comfortably.
Starting line-up.
Olsen
Cash
Chambers
Bednarek
Augustinson
Sanson
Dendocker
Luiz
Bailey
Ings
Coutinho.
So a weak defence but the attack, whilst not filled with first teamers should have done more the 3 shots on target. Especially with Buendia, Watkins, Young, Digne and Ramsey actually all on the pitch when they scored their two goals.
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To be fair, Emery's always played strong sides in the FA Cup. The only time he didn't was Stevenage at home, and I think he was justified in thinking the side we put out that day would beat a League Two side comfortably.
Starting line-up.
Olsen
Cash
Chambers
Bednarek
Augustinson
Sanson
Dendocker
Luiz
Bailey
Ings
Coutinho.
So a weak defence but the attack, whilst not filled with first teamers should have done more the 3 shots on target. Especially with Buendia, Watkins, Young, Digne and Ramsey actually all on the pitch when they scored their two goals.
They offered absolutely zero threat all game until they scored, twice.
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Dendoncker fucked that game up with his donkey first touch that got him sent off. Terrible signing. Was it him and the Southampton lumbering carthorse purchased as 2 total panic signings in the same week?
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Just watched it back and it ended with the usual slow reactions of Olsen being beaten at the near post by a shot I could have saved.
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Dendoncker fucked that game up with his donkey first touch that got him sent off. Terrible signing. Was it him and the Southampton lumbering carthorse purchased as 2 total panic signings in the same week?
Easy to say in hindsight but they were two of the games finest at looking managers in the eye.
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Comfortable 3 0
Emi
Disasi (nope, cup tied) so Cash
Maatsen
Konsa
Mings
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Ramsey
Rogers
Subs - Olsen Cash Digne Pau Onana Bailey Asensio Malen Rashford
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Dendoncker fucked that game up with his donkey first touch that got him sent off. Terrible signing. Was it him and the Southampton lumbering carthorse purchased as 2 total panic signings in the same week?
Yes, Dendoncker was the main player at fault, after Sanson had scored for us I think.
Augustinsson was a dreadful player too.
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Emi
Garcia Konsa Mings Maatsen
Tielemans Kamara
Bailey Rogers Ramsay
Malen
Subs:
Olsen
Digne
Pau (on at 70 mins to get mins as i want him fit for PSG and breaking their press)
Onana (on at 60 mins for Kamara)
McGinn (on at 60 mins for Bailey - just to tighten up)
Rashford - only if needed as played twice in last week
Asensio - should not need him against Championship team - save for Brighton
Watkins (on at 70 in readiness for starting against Brighton)
Bogarde
Without taking anything for granted we will undoubtably have a lot to contend with early enthusiasm from players and home crowd, but surely the quality of our team / squad will see us through in the end.
Come on you Villa boys - its within touching distance now
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Martinez
Disasi Pau Mings Maatsen
Kamara Onana
Asensio McGinn
Malen Ramsey
I think with Brighton on Wednesday this sort of line up should be for Preston.
Enough here to get a comfortable 2-0 win.
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That formation looks too boxy. Where's the width/Withe ?
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Martinez
Disasi Pau Mings Maatsen
Kamara Onana
Asensio McGinn
Malen Ramsey
I think with Brighton on Wednesday this sort of line up should be for Preston.
Enough here to get a comfortable 2-0 win.
I've made same mistake as you FV, Disasi is cup tied.
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Martinez
Disasi Pau Mings Maatsen
Kamara Onana
Asensio McGinn
Malen Ramsey
I think with Brighton on Wednesday this sort of line up should be for Preston.
Enough here to get a comfortable 2-0 win.
I've made same mistake as you FV, Disasi is cup tied.
But FV is so good with his footballing insight he might be putting him in as he knows the FA will withdraw that rule for the quarter finals.
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That formation looks too boxy. Where's the width/Withe ?
So I thinking maatsen step forward! He likes his forays.
And malen at times drifting out wide right
Asensio arriving and Ramsey direct running from the left inside as a 10 and outside with help from Maatsen
it’s fine in transition and for football
Works well in and out of possession .
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Martinez
Disasi Pau Mings Maatsen
Kamara Onana
Asensio McGinn
Malen Ramsey
I think with Brighton on Wednesday this sort of line up should be for Preston.
Enough here to get a comfortable 2-0 win.
I've made same mistake as you FV, Disasi is cup tied.
But FV is so good with his footballing insight he might be putting him in as he knows the FA will withdraw that rule for the quarter finals.
Well if he’s cup tied then it can be Cashy.
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My first thought was to start with Rashford, Malen and Bailey. Lower league clubs struggle with pace but I cant see him starting all three. I reckon he'll start Garcia.
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Emi
Garcia
Konsa
Mings
Maatsen
Onana
Kamara
Bailey
Asensio
Rashford
Malen
Pretty much first team but give Youri, Digne McGinn and Rogers a break.
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F365 saying generally nice things about us again.
Firmly in the conversation for being ‘too big for so long without a trophy’, Aston Villa need this and the fans deserve this.
Winning the FA Cup would be tangible proof of their incredible rise under Unai Emery but again, we feel qualifying for the Champions League takes precedence for the Midlands club. They have made the quarter-final of this season’s competition and have French champions and European bottlers Paris Saint-Germain between them and a semi-final. Honestly, if Arsenal somehow overcome Real Madrid, you would fancy Villa to reach the final; it would be so Arsenal to back up knocking out the European champions with a semi-final defeat to Emery’s side.
Villa are ninth in the Premier League but such is the tightness of the top half, they are only three points behind Man City in fifth, which should be enough to qualify for Europe’s premier competition. Goal difference could be crucial and Villa’s is crap – they are on minus four and only the bottom five teams are worse off in that regard.
The Villans were the lucky Premier League team drawn against Preston North End – the other quarter-finalist and only Championship or below club left. The tie being at Deepdale means it could be sticky, but you fancy Villa to get through and just like that they have a date at Wembley booked. If you get that far, you would be as well winning it, right?
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The Guardian has done a paragraph on all the QF games. With our tie they’ve focused on KKH not playing and have sort of intimated he should be allowed to play.
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The Guardian has done a paragraph on all the QF games. With our tie they’ve focused on KKH not playing and have sort of intimated he should be allowed to play.
Which I thought was a bit shit. There is no sentimentality in the game, otherwise we'd throw the tie in favour of the lower league club.
It's a shame that he isn't playing but it's a shame that we haven't won it since '57 but that's no reason to change the rules.*
* It is.
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Is Watkins injured ?
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Injury stopped him being called up for England and he played no part in the match out in Dubai, presumably for the same reason. But there have been no reports of it being anything serious.
But even then, it doesn't really feel like a match he needs to start.
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The Guardian has done a paragraph on all the QF games. With our tie they’ve focused on KKH not playing and have sort of intimated he should be allowed to play.
The Quote.
Aston Villa very considerately sent Kaine Kesler-Hayden to Preston last summer for the fifth loan spell of his career. The 22-year-old has made only five senior appearances for his parent club, hence the requirement for him to gain experience in the Championship. It seems extremely unfair that he is not eligible to play against Villa on Sunday, leaving Preston short of a player and Kesler-Hayden to miss out on an incredible opportunity. Surely Unai Emery is not afraid that his third-choice right-back is better than what he currently has in his squad, and would like to see what he can do to prove he has a long-term future at Villa Park. Admittedly, it would put Kesler-Hayden in an awkward position but he would no doubt prefer a chance to reach the top of the game. An FA Cup quarter-final is not a regular or guaranteed occurrence in anyone’s playing career.
So Preston will only have 10 players on the pitch because that bully Emery insisted he should be banned.
(I'm not sure if the ruling is FA based or loaning club based for the FA Cup, but definitely for the Prem it is premier league rules and has nothing to do with loaning club).
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Idiotic piece by the Guardian. It's a rule in the FA Cup, players are not allowed to play their Parent Club.
There's nothing Villa could do to change that.
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That reads like we can give our consent for him to play when presumably the rules don't give us a chance to give our consent.
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We could have given our consent.
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The more I read it the more I feel they are very much on our case. "Only 5 senior appearances" Yes, that's why he's gone on loan to gain additional experience you twats. There's every chance he will be back in contention next season.
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We could have given our consent.
Nah.
Temporary (loan) Transfers
(i) A player on a temporary (loan) transfer is ineligible to compete in the Challenge Cup
Competition unless permission to do so is given by the lending Club in writing and a
copy is received by The Association by 12 noon on the Friday prior to the date fixed
for playing the Round. Any permissions must clearly state that the player has
approval to play in The FA Challenge Cup Competition. A registered Trainee or a
player who is registered on a Scholarship for work experience may play for another
Club, subject to written permission being given by the Club that he is registered to
and provided that such permission is received by The Association by 12 noon on the
Friday prior to the date fixed for playing the Round. The Association will not give
permission for players on loan or work experience to play against the lending Club
Pretty cut-and-dried.
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We could have given our consent.
No, we couldn't.
Unless you mean we could have given our consent in the hope that they'd be stupid enough to play him and got kicked out if they win so we sneak back in, in which case I agree.
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We could have given our consent.
If it was allowed that we could, can you imagine the outcry if he gave the ball away needlessly in the box for us to score?
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Has the 'journalist' who wrote the piece put their name to it? He/she may have a twitter account where you can pull them up on it.
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Why would we do anything to help them ? He's been their POTS so far by all accounts.
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Has the 'journalist' who wrote the piece put their name to it? He/she may have a twitter account where you can pull them up on it.
Someone called Will Unwin. But I'd hope people have better things to do with their time.
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Ok, we couldn't have given consent. I read that we could, sorry.
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Has the 'journalist' who wrote the piece put their name to it? He/she may have a twitter account where you can pull them up on it.
Someone called Will Unwin. But I'd hope people have better things to do with their time.
Maybe. Had a quick look anyway and his X account is protected.
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Has the 'journalist' who wrote the piece put their name to it? He/she may have a twitter account where you can pull them up on it.
Someone called Will Unwin. But I'd hope people have better things to do with their time.
Maybe. Had a quick look anyway and his X account is protected.
What would you have said, and what would you have been hoping to achieve?
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Could have pointed out that he was having a pop at Emery unnecessarily.
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Right...
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Glad to clear it up.
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We could have given our consent.
Yes in totally disingenuous Trumpism way to chase good PR.
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Ok, we couldn't have given consent. I read that we could, sorry.
We have to give consent that loanees can play in cup competitions which is usually made if the loan might be cut short.
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Of all of the talking points this tie has to offer, he chose that and was wrong.
I read the Guardian, for lots of reasons, but I do have to work hard not feel that we've offended someone there without quite knowing what it is that we've done.
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Of all of the talking points this tie has to offer, he chose that and was wrong.
I read the Guardian, for lots of reasons, but I do have to work hard not feel that we've offended someone there without quite knowing what it is that we've done.
Same here.
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Ok, we couldn't have given consent. I read that we could, sorry.
We have to give consent that loanees can play in cup competitions which is usually made if the loan might be cut short.
But not this cup, where the organisers say that it's not allowed whether we're happy with it or not.
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I like the usage of "work experience" in that rule. Some 15 year old in the Villa Village stockroom hoping against hope that his stint there might get him a move to a professional club and maybe even come back to VP one day as a player in a match-day squad!
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Glad to see Ollie healthy again but this is really a game I hope we start Malen. We need to see him get proper game time and with big league and CL games to come we need Ollie 100% for those.
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Which bright spark planned this as a lunchtime kick off on Mothering Sunday - wankers
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Ok, we couldn't have given consent. I read that we could, sorry.
We have to give consent that loanees can play in cup competitions which is usually made if the loan might be cut short.
But not this cup, where the organisers say that it's not allowed whether we're happy with it or not.
I meant for loan players to even be able to play in cup competitions, consent has to be given by the loaning club. If we had banned KKH from even playing in the cups at all then the twatty reporter might have had a semblance of a point to blame the Villa. But as we haven't banned him, the FA has, fuck knows what he is trying to do.
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Ok, we couldn't have given consent. I read that we could, sorry.
We have to give consent that loanees can play in cup competitions which is usually made if the loan might be cut short.
But not this cup, where the organisers say that it's not allowed whether we're happy with it or not.
I meant for loan players to even be able to play in cup competitions, consent has to be given by the loaning club. If we had banned KKH from even playing in the cups at all then the twatty reporter might have had a semblance of a point to blame the Villa. But as we haven't banned him, the FA has, fuck knows what he is trying to do.
Ah yes, I'm with you now.
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Which bright spark planned this as a lunchtime kick off on Mothering Sunday - wankers
the good news is it's not an ITV game
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Regarding the Guardian's deeply-held, diabolical agenda against all things Villa, we are playing the only non-PL club left in the FA Cup. There is a tradition that the media, and 'neutrals' in general, are unofficially on the side of the underdog in this competition. This is what happens. Nobody's against us. We will be fine. If we win 5-0, it will be reported as such. If Preston win, the media and the football world will be delighted, but for them, not against us.
We moan when we're not considered sufficiently 'big', we moan when we're treated as being sufficiently 'big'. Maybe the problem is the moaning rather than the media.
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Some managers and coaches let players unwind and have a wild time over in Dubai during international breaks. Sometimes they lose control and players behave irresponsibly.
I think footballers in 2025 generally are expected to be true professional athletes and take job the most seriously as it’s even done in England.
Emery runs a tight ship when on these sort of excursions and training programmes so apart from the female company aspect I imagine he won’t allow for much shenanigans like drinking and partying.
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I'm sorry but the line "Surely Unai Emery is not afraid that his third-choice right-back is better than what he currently has in his squad, and would like to see what he can do to prove he has a long-term future at Villa Park." doesn't seem to be anything but a dig at Villa and Emery in particular for something totally out of his hands.
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I don't think it's evidence of a great anti-Villa conspiracy, but it does seem fairly shoddy journalism not to bother his arse spending five seconds on Google to check what he said was vaguely accurate.
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I don't think it's evidence of a great anti-Villa conspiracy, but it does seem fairly shoddy journalism not to bother his arse spending five seconds on Google to check what he said was vaguely accurate.
It's hardly 'journalism'. It's a couple of paragraphs of filler that no-one reads.
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I'd imagine he hopes people read it. He's a journalist, it's journalism. It's also not "filler" in the context of his previews of the weekend matches. It's literally all he has to say about our game.
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I don't think it's evidence of a great anti-Villa conspiracy, but it does seem fairly shoddy journalism not to bother his arse spending five seconds on Google to check what he said was vaguely accurate.
It's hardly 'journalism'. It's a couple of paragraphs of filler that no-one reads.
I imagine an underpaid bloke reporting on council issues for the local paper still considers himself to be "doing journalism" even if it's not particularly important or widely read.
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Will Unwin’s style is very like this, it’s not pointed at Villa. Sometimes it’s quite funny sometimes it’s tedious.
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Will Unwin’s style is very like this, it’s not pointed at Villa. Sometimes it’s quite funny sometimes it’s tedious.
Whereas Jamie Jackson gives the impression he uses crayons.
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Will Unwin’s style is very like this, it’s not pointed at Villa. Sometimes it’s quite funny sometimes it’s tedious.
Nobody's really criticised his style. If journalists want to take the piss out of us, or any other club - crack on.
Just don't get the whole premise of your piece wrong while you're doing it.
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Will Unwin’s style is very like this, it’s not pointed at Villa. Sometimes it’s quite funny sometimes it’s tedious.
TBF the KKH being cup-tied is a point to take. Remove the ridiculous line of Emery being scared and it wouldn't have been controversial. So either it was included for the equivalent of click-bait or included because the pratt doesn't actually bother to research the rules of the game he is reporting on. Neither is a good look for him though.
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We could have given our consent, but it would have been worth nothing as FA laws overrule it. :-)
Glad to have been of service.
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I don't think it's evidence of a great anti-Villa conspiracy, but it does seem fairly shoddy journalism not to bother his arse spending five seconds on Google to check what he said was vaguely accurate.
It's hardly 'journalism'. It's a couple of paragraphs of filler that no-one reads.
I imagine an underpaid bloke reporting on council issues for the local paper still considers himself to be "doing journalism" even if it's not particularly important or widely read.
I'm going to find out who's covering the Devizes Vegetable Festival and give them the right fucking bird on Twitter if they don't get the dimensions of the fifth-placed marrow spot on. Stealing a living, these big-eared wordfilth scumtwat wanktitters.
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That's one of my favourite ever posts.
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I don't think it's evidence of a great anti-Villa conspiracy, but it does seem fairly shoddy journalism not to bother his arse spending five seconds on Google to check what he said was vaguely accurate.
It's hardly 'journalism'. It's a couple of paragraphs of filler that no-one reads.
I imagine an underpaid bloke reporting on council issues for the local paper still considers himself to be "doing journalism" even if it's not particularly important or widely read.
I'm going to find out who's covering the Devizes Vegetable Festival and give them the right fucking bird on Twitter if they don't get the dimensions of the fifth-placed marrow spot on. Stealing a living, these big-eared wordfilth scumtwat wanktitters.
I don't think you need to do that. But I'd definitely feel a bit of sympathy for the winner of the first place marrow if he picked up the paper and the report was all about how his shit carrot wasn't even orange.
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But if it was a 100 word preview of the festival it wouldn't matter at all.
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None of it "matters". It would just mean he was a sloppy journalist, like this Will Onion character.
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This is getting very shoddy now. Marrow seeds won't be planted for another month!
Just do some basic fucking research.
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It's mad how often the clutching of rosaries and pursing of apertures about the decline in journalistic standards coincides with the publication of a piece that fails to offer grovelling acclaim to the sacred behemoth, Aston Villa.
Not pointing at Dave here, nor indeed any particular individual.
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I think it's important to hold people to account. If you just let people post any old shit online without bothering to do a modicum of fact-checking, what do you have? My posting history, that's what. And no laté quaffing, metropolitan elite newspaper ever gives me any money to express my ill-researched opinions. The twats.
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Fair to say Will Funyon is pretty dense though to not know that a loan player can't play against his parent club in the FAC as it's been a rule for years.
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It's mad how often the clutching of rosaries and pursing of apertures about the decline in journalistic standards coincides with the publication of a piece that fails to offer grovelling acclaim to the sacred behemoth, Aston Villa.
Not pointing at Dave here, nor indeed any particular individual.
I'd hope not. I'm the very last person to give a toss.
Give me a well-written piece ripping us a new one over some badly-written obsequiousness any day.
But sometimes there are just badly-written pieces of slop that can be called out for being badly-written pieces of slop.
This is one of them.
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I agree he should've got it right, but if he's spent any time speaking to people at Preston (as he indeed has, according to yesterday's Football Weekly, piece out at the weekend) he'll have been hearing that it's in our gift to let KKH play. That's what I got from looking at a Preston forum the other day, and I think the club has commented to that effect (subs - please check). Obviously it doesn't take long to verify, but it's really very small beer.
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Fair to say Will Funyon is pretty dense though to not know that a loan player can't play against his parent club in the FAC as it's been a rule for years.
Mason Mount apparently played for Derby Vs Chelsea.
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Fair to say Will Funyon is pretty dense though to not know that a loan player can't play against his parent club in the FAC as it's been a rule for years.
Mason Mount apparently played for Derby Vs Chelsea.
Not in the FAC.
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Fair to say Will Funyon is pretty dense though to not know that a loan player can't play against his parent club in the FAC as it's been a rule for years.
Mason Mount apparently played for Derby Vs Chelsea.
A quick Soccerbase check says that he played against them in the League Cup, so presumably there are different rules for that competition.
If I were being paid for my football writing like Will Bunion is, I'd look it up.
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As we're all having a nice time and I'm sure everyone wants to keep this discussion going, I'd also add that, even if it was in our power to allow him to play, we'd be fucking mental to do so. It's an FA Cup Quarter-Final, not a pre-season friendly.
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Quite - it's not about what out 4th choice right back might do to us, it's what he might do for them. He's a pivotal part of their team, so why wouldn't we take him out if we had the right to?
Preston fans seem to be under the impression that this game is more important to them than it is to us. It's the quarter final of the only cup most of us have never seen us win. Beyond that even - we've actually won nothing for nearly thirty years, & to top it off it's a route into Europe - How important do games get?
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Has the 'journalist' who wrote the piece put their name to it? He/she may have a twitter account where you can pull them up on it.
Someone called Will Unwin. But I'd hope people have better things to do with their time.
Footy-Will?
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Seems like Osmajic may be able to play against us.
Seems to be on track to get back from hip injury and FA have granted extra time in his response to charge.
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Could we have added another player if we loaned Bailey out?
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The other 3 ties have semi automated offside, but not ours.
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This will not be easy, we have to go full-strength and sub as necessary. No Bailey for this one, please.
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Didn’t Bailey set up our first goal in our last game really nicely?
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As we're all having a nice time and I'm sure everyone wants to keep this discussion going, I'd also add that, even if it was in our power to allow him to play, we'd be fucking mental to do so. It's an FA Cup Quarter-Final, not a pre-season friendly.
Exactly , we aren't a charity either last time I checked companies house.
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Didn’t Bailey set up our first goal in our last game really nicely?
Yep gorgeous little chipped through ball for Ascensio’s first goal. He really hasn’t done that badly in the last number of games, but the dye is cast a bit. I think he may well be nailed on to start tomorrow.
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In their match preparation, it must be impossible for PNE to predict the Villa starting X1. Even us Villa fans don't have a clue.
Be frantic in the PNE changing room 90 minutes before kick off when our team announced.
Such quality in depth.
0-2 to the Villa.
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
Very true. The thought of Madueke being in Bailey's role is exciting. Pressure really on Bailey to perform now.
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In their match preparation, it must be impossible for PNE to predict the Villa starting X1. Even us Villa fans don't have a clue.
Be frantic in the PNE changing room 90 minutes before kick off when our team announced.
Such quality in depth.
0-2 to the Villa.
These players were all on international duty and with must win against Brighton how many do we expect to start?
GK: Martinez and Olsen
Defenders: Konsa, Digne, Cash, Garcia, Maatsen
Midfielders: McGinn, Tielemans, Bogarde
Forwards: Malen, Rashford, Bailey, Rogers
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
Very true. The thought of Madueke being in Bailey's role is exciting. Pressure really on Bailey to perform now.
The amazon docuseries coming up will give insight to Bailey off field life. His partner is going to feature and if it’s remotely disruptive will only add to likelihood of being sold.
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
Very true. The thought of Madueke being in Bailey's role is exciting. Pressure really on Bailey to perform now.
Doesn't he play on the opposite flank to Bailey?
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
Very true. The thought of Madueke being in Bailey's role is exciting. Pressure really on Bailey to perform now.
The amazon docuseries coming up will give insight to Bailey off field life. His partner is going to feature and if it’s remotely disruptive will only add to likelihood of being sold.
Sorry Footy, I normally enjoy your posts and don't like to see top posters like Drummond and Olney pick on you but can you please stop banging-on about this Real Housewives Of Kingston/Solihull nonsense?!
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Whichever version of Bailey turns up , what he does seem to do is pull the opposition defence apart and occupy the mind of a couple of players. I'm not sure I'd start him but I think Emery will play him to start the game but doubt he will play the full game .
Very true. The thought of Madueke being in Bailey's role is exciting. Pressure really on Bailey to perform now.
Doesn't he play on the opposite flank to Bailey?
No, Madueke plays mainly on the right.
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Apparently these are quite dirty bastards. Try and kick us off the park. According a Wednesday fan I know.
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Apparently these are quite dirty bastards. Try and kick us off the park. According a Wednesday fan I know.
Well Chris Kavanagh is the ref tomorrow, the idiot who dished out something like 16 yellow cards in home game against Bournemouth.
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A card-happy referee against a team from a lower division should, theoretically, be to our advantage. We will see.
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Apparently these are quite dirty bastards. Try and kick us off the park. According a Wednesday fan I know.
Their dirtiest player, Ledson, is currently suspended!
They have a lot of first choice players out one way or another (about 7!) and there is also a strong rumour that their goalie has been injured in training.
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Go as strong as possible with the starting line up, if we can have the game as good as won after 60 minutes then we start to rotate with an eye to the next game against a knackered Brighton.
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Go as strong as possible with the starting line up, if we can have the game as good as won after 60 minutes then we start to rotate with an eye to the next game against a knackered Brighton.
Think it's the opposite but with caution. Get through 65 mins then deploy the cavalry.
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Apparently these are quite dirty bastards. Try and kick us off the park. According a Wednesday fan I know.
Their dirtiest player, Ledson, is currently suspended!
They have a lot of first choice players out one way or another (about 7!) and there is also a strong rumour that their goalie has been injured in training.
Thanks. I know Mads’ dad he works at our company. Mads seems like a good midfielder.
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KKH Cup Tied
Porteous Cup Tied
Ledson Suspended
Greenwood Suspended
Potts Injured
McCann Injured
Storey Injured
Whatmough Injured
Milly Maybe
Woodman Rumoured Injured
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Who’s Milly?
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Who’s Milly?
Lives next door but one to my mom. Lovely lady - 90+. I went to school with her son who now lives in Brighton. He ended up married to the young lady who was initially bride when he was best man for his best mate. Always brings a smile when I think about it. Especially as she was quite promiscuous back in the day and it seems like he was the one when the music stopped. She was a nurse. So it's obviously true what they say.
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All the best hope we win!!
Signing off now and let’s all keep our mothers in our prayers.
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Milly is Osmajic - the one who bit a Blackburn player and is accused of racially abusing a Burnley player. 'A character' I think they say!
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Oh god. He could be trouble.
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Just saw an interview with their manager, Heckinbottom who said that the players available to Unai , especially our attacking players are simply unbelievable and they will have no idea how we will line up or play until the teamsheet comes out.
That is some advantage to have.
Please don't fuck this up Villa
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Good night all , sleep well.
Tomorrow begins the march to our destiny.
UTV .
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Aaaaaaaannnd the stress returns. Great stuff.
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Win please
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I hope SUE had them all tucked up in bed an hour earlier last night to compensate for the clocks changing
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Regarding the Guardian's deeply-held, diabolical agenda against all things Villa, we are playing the only non-PL club left in the FA Cup. There is a tradition that the media, and 'neutrals' in general, are unofficially on the side of the underdog in this competition. This is what happens. Nobody's against us. We will be fine. If we win 5-0, it will be reported as such. If Preston win, the media and the football world will be delighted, but for them, not against us.
We moan when we're not considered sufficiently 'big', we moan when we're treated as being sufficiently 'big'. Maybe the problem is the moaning rather than the media.
I note that there was a splash article in the Graun this weekend on every quarter finalist bar us. Also seems to be the case for the other broadsheets. Not that I’m getting conspiratorial about it - suspect that that’s how Unai likes it.
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Well, I reckon they will score first and make it squeaky bummy (as is the Villa way) but the class will tell and we run out winners. I think.
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Have enjoyed the 2 week or so break but will be glad to get my Villa fix today. It’s the start of a fantastic run of games, can’t wait!
Think we’ll make hard work of this today but will sneak through 0-1.
COYL’s!
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I hope SUE had them all tucked up in bed an hour earlier last night to compensate for the clocks changing
Someone was letting off fireworks at Barton Grange near the Villa hotel at 3am this morning!
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I think we are taking this very seriously and will win comfortably 3:0 or 3:1 to us.
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2-0 ip and cruising only to concede in the 87th and then cling on for victory...typical.
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From someone who has no chance of ever getting an away ticket !! ..enjoy the day and safe trip for everyone going today, will be great to see a proper away following instead of a couple of thousand shoved in the corner out of sight like in the PL
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I’m feeling quite nervous now.
Due to very poor planning I will be on a train and relying on all of you and East Midlands Railway’s Blues wifi to follow what’s going on.
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I see Deepdale has a Tom Finney stand and a Bill Shankly stand, now that's showing off!
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We’re not at home to Mr Cock Up.
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All the best hope we win!!
Signing off now and let’s all keep our mothers in our prayers.
Quite right too! Don't fuck this up, Villa, pretty please!
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They have a good home record and will get stuck into our boys from the off. Unai mentioned us conceding too many goals in one of his pressers but we will have too much firepower for them. So I've gone for a bit of a mad bet today. 4-2 to us at 40/1. Think I might be losing the plot.
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I'm just about to leave this pub in Leyland and have this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. I hope this experience becomes a regular occurance.
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I think this will be fairly similar to the Cardiff game. PNE are better but also missing KHH, Ryan Porteous, their main keeper and a couple of their midfielders are suspended so far from the strongest 11 they can put out.
They'll low block so up to us to figure it out but Watkins, Rogers, Rashford, Asensio....Malen surely going to be too much.
Another 0-2.
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Do we play extra time when we draw, or is it straight to penalties?
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Do we play extra time when we draw, or is it straight to penalties?
Yes there will be ET.
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Thanks.
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Do we play extra time when we draw, or is it straight to penalties?
Yes there will be ET.
Hopefully we don’t think we can phone it in
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I like their programme cover
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnR7sI6XcAAlTk0?format=jpg&name=large)
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Blimey Watkins and mcginn on the bench.
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Nice. Their programme cover.
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Their keeper is out and they've brought in Cornell who has made four appearances since signing for them in 2022.