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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2025, 12:17:20 PM
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The games keep coming. Another very tough a place to go but we need to start winning games in the league.
A shock clean sheet in a 1-0 win. Rashford with his first
MARTINEZ
GARCIA
KONSA
DISASI
DIGNE
KAMARA
MCGINN
TIELEMANS
ROGERS
MALEN
RASHFORD
SUBS: MINGS, PAU, OLSEN, ASENSIO, BAILEY, CASH, MAATSEN, JJ, ZYCH
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2-0
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I'd go with Ramsey over Rashford, and perhaps Mings and Disasi at centre-half.
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1-4
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No Ollie, Toronto?
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley. Emery needs to mix and match to give us the best chance of 3 points followed by keeping Bruges at bay on the Wednesday. I'd expect Garcia and Malen to both start v Brentford, give Watkins a break on the bench. Although Ollie does have a good record against his old club.
2 1 to us.
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Fantastic performance last night but I worry about Tyrone playing 90 minutes 2 games in a row.
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
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Not everything needs to be a conspiracy. There are Doctors and physios helping to make a decision with the player regarding treatment and recovery time. And that’s before we get to the manager who has to agree the time is right to introduce that player to training and games. There is the desire or need to play them vs the long term health considerations. Mings likely came back too soon and he’s had his ups and downs since. Cash even said the same last night after the game but he got through it. And there is the players own body and how it recovers. So just because a player doesn’t come back in the window we think is appropriate isn’t some mystery or cover up. It’s very likely lots of factors combined guided by many opinions from professionals at the club.
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
And Onana?
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
And Onana?
He's injured.
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
And Onana?
He's injured.
Really I had no idea.
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What I would pick...
Emi
Garcia - Desasi - Torres - Digne
Kamara - Tielemans
Rogers - Asensio - Malen
Watkins
What Unai will pick:
EMi
Konsa - Desasi - Mings - Digne
Kamara - Tielemans
Bailey - Rogers - Rashford
Watkins
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Would like malen to get some minutes tbh. Ollie usually gets a rough reception there and although got winner kast season i think it was, it did effect him. So wouldnt be opposed to malen up top for ollie
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Important game but we have to have an eye on Wednesday too. Therefore -
---------- Martinez--------
Garcia Disasi Torres Digne
--- Kamara --- McGinn----
Ramsey __________ Ascensio
--- Marlene ----- Watkins ----
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Wow, I don't know how you managed to put every attacking player into a position which would screw them over. That is some going.
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Watkins will score against them, he plays.
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Important game but we have to have an eye on Wednesday too. Therefore -
---------- Martinez--------
Garcia Disasi Torres Digne
--- Kamara --- McGinn----
Ramsey __________ Ascensio
--- Marlene ----- Watkins ----
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Konsa with a marauding run and ‘top bins’ finish.
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What I would pick...
Emi
Garcia - Desasi - Torres - Digne
Kamara - Tielemans
Rogers - Asensio - Malen
Watkins
What Unai will pick:
EMi
Konsa - Desasi - Mings - Digne
Kamara - Tielemans
Bailey - Rogers - Rashford
Watkins
If malen is better think he will start ahead of Bailey, also think Asensio may start, possibly ahead of Rogers, Ramsey may start ahead of Rashford, then swap them all round on 60 odd mins.
Id probably take a draw here
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I've no time for Brentford Nylons and their horrible G-Tech Superdome or whatever it's called and they have been a thorn in our side back to the days in the Championship so I tend to approach these games with trepidation.
Two more games until we get a well deserved break, a bit of rotation here with Weds in mind and I can see us getting a result. We need to stay in touch with 5th so that when we return to League action in April we storm up the table with a late run. Draw will be ok but a win it is.
2-1
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I reckon we will beat Brentford 2-1
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
And Onana?
He's injured.
Permanently.
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I'd be offloading Onana in the summer sadly won't happen without taking a big loss , unless there is any Saudi interest
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I hope Ben Mee doesn't start this one.
1-1
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Should have everyone available except the mysterious Onana and Barkley.
Barkley did a ligament in his knee, so being out for a couple of months isn't all that mysterious.
And Onana?
He's injured.
Permanently.
Injured Again (Naturally).
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Top 5 guarantees champs league . Lets get a win .
Id rest one of youri and SJM if we can . Malen to get a start if he has recovered .
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Exactly the sort of game we're shite at playing - away to physical teams who have dangerous forward players.
And we never seem to learn. 3-1 Brentford.
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Exactly the sort of game we're shite at playing - away to physical teams who have dangerous forward players.
And we never seem to learn. 3-1 Brentford.
And after a Champions League game. I'll go with your prediction and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
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A defeat by 3 goals.
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2-0 to us think Rashford will get one think this will be the start of a winning run
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2-0 to us think Rashford will get one think this will be the start of a winning run
I keep thinking this all season, I so hope you're right.
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I’m starting to feel like the Premier League is getting in the way of my enjoyment of the season. Like an international break.
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2-0 to us think Rashford will get one think this will be the start of a winning run
I keep thinking this all season, I so hope you're right.
Same here.
Obviously six points from the next two games would be ideal, but even four would keeps us in the hunt. The home games against Forest and Newcastle are probably must-wins anyway.
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Rashford needs a goal . Brentford are quite decent going forward be a test . We will need to rotate and keep an eye on Wednesday so game time Saturday for the likes of Cash Torres Bogarde Kamara and Malen .
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I’ll say a 3-1 win
A brace for Watkins who has never lost against Brentford for Villa and has a good goal scoring record against them
I’ll add Asensio with a goal. penalty
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Horrible ugly team, don’t concede ( wishful thinking) because they will delay and shithouse their way through to 90+minutes.
We need to start bettering the results of Bournemouth Brighton Newcastle Fulham Chelsea Citeh.
I think we need a win but we have failed to do that 7 out of 8 after playing in Europe.
We will score but so will they. 3 1 to them
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If we win we're back in with a CL shout? Therefore this will be a definite draw.
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Clean sheet FC For us this weekend im predicting
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I’m starting to feel like the Premier League is getting in the way of my enjoyment of the season. Like an international break.
Nah . The business games to come . Silly statement . The remaining Prem games are just as important. Sort the boys from the men.
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Is it Brentford we got a bit niggley with last season?
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Is it Brentford we got a bit niggley with last season?
Think some of their fans were slagging Watkins off and he was quite vocal when he scored against them.
They are a dirty, niggly team.
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Would like to see Malen start this one to be honest. Watkins will start against Brugge so give him a rest. A bruising 2 nil win for the lads.
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I’m starting to feel like the Premier League is getting in the way of my enjoyment of the season. Like an international break.
Nah . The business games to come . Silly statement . The remaining Prem games are just as important. Sort the boys from the men.
I apologise for my 100% serious statement.
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We’ve been garbage away in the league for the most part. We’ll need a big turnaround in terms of league form.
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For our continued and long term growth it is crucial we win tomorrow. After our abysmal recent league form we are very, very lucky to still be in with a shout for a Champions League spot next sesaon.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. We now have the strength in depth and quality. Go for victory Unai, all guns blazing.
0-3 Villa
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Is it Brentford we got a bit niggley with last season?
Think some of their fans were slagging Watkins off and he was quite vocal when he scored against them.
They are a dirty, niggly team.
Mee was sent off for being his normal dirty bastard. Then late on Emi decided to needlessly get involved lucky not to get a red, with Kamara unfortunately getting a really really soft one for trying to get one of their players to look back at him.
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Important game but we have to have an eye on Wednesday too. Therefore -
---------- Martinez--------
Garcia Disasi Torres Digne
--- Kamara --- McGinn----
Ramsey __________ Ascensio
--- Marlene ----- Watkins ----
Will be close enough to the starting line up. Mings will be rested for the CL and Cash likely still on naughty step after his row with Emery during the week. Will be interesting to see how Torres goes. Maatsen might also come in again at left back. Digne was poor during the week.
As much as many of us are keen to see Malen given a go, Id be stunned if Watkins didn't start up top. Bailey will start again I think on the right. Ramsey on left and Asensio might get the nod over Rogers.
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What row was that?
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Is it Brentford we got a bit niggley with last season?
Think some of their fans were slagging Watkins off and he was quite vocal when he scored against them.
They are a dirty, niggly team.
Mee was sent off for being his normal dirty bastard. Then late on Emi decided to needlessly get involved lucky not to get a red, with Kamara unfortunately getting a really really soft one for trying to get one of their players to look back at him.
That all stemmed from that Bailey back pass from halfway which was almost OG of the season , then the altercations started with dwarf and Martinez and it rumbles on from there .
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Our record post UCL games suggests will lose this comfortably.
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What row was that?
I was wondering the same. Was it the same row Emi supposedly had?
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What row was that?
I missed that as well.
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Our record post UCL games suggests will lose this comfortably.
We've got more depth and players coming back. Would be nice if this one was different. We could have won the home game 4 or 5-0.
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Think they will attack us which if we stand firm will suit our game on the fast counter. If they go ahead it will be tough as they'll sit deep and counter .
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Think they will attack us which if we stand firm will suit our game on the fast counter. If When they go ahead it will be tough as they'll sit deep and counter .
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Did I hear right Brentford havent won for 6 games?
oh , so whos the best team to play .
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Did I hear right Brentford havent won for 6 games?
oh , so whos the best team to play .
They've been very good away but including the FA Cup they are on a home run of 5 defeats and 2 draws. Score first and we'll win
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They, somehow, managed to be even bigger crybabies than Tottenham and Arsenal when we won there last season. Oh no a striker has celebrated a goal against us, just because we abused him all game, what a bastard!
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good point CD
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Did I hear right Brentford havent won for 6 games?
oh , so whos the best team to play .
They've been very good away but including the FA Cup they are on a home run of 5 defeats and 2 draws. Score first and we'll win
Yup, not won at home since the start of December.
Just the right time for Dr. Villa to turn up and fix that.
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Rashford has to open his account soon. This should be the game.
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No Ollie, Toronto?
We have cancelled his contract and as free agent he has signed for Arsenal.
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What row was that?
They had a bit of a shouting match near end of Brugge game after Bogarde came on. They nearly scored as a result of the confusion that sub caused. Wasn't going to take much to set Emery off that particular night it has to be said.
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If we can convert our early chances (Oliver) and not concede from their first shot I think we can come back up the M40 with 3 points .
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Did I hear right Brentford havent won for 6 games?
oh , so whos the best team to play .
Southampton or Leicester.
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Brentford manager Thomas Frank on team news: "Christian Norgaard is back. Mathias Jensen will be involved in the squad as well which is a positive.
"Sepp van den Berg will train with the team next week"
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Still only Barkley and Onana out for us.
Emery continued: “Barkley is out, not available for tomorrow, Onana is starting to work with the team and is close to being with us as well.
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Did I hear right Brentford havent won for 6 games?
oh , so whos the best team to play .
They've been very good away but including the FA Cup they are on a home run of 5 defeats and 2 draws. Score first and we'll win
Yup, not won at home since the start of December.
Just the right time for Dr. Villa to turn up and fix that.
Indeed.
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Onana the man that can never get fit
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Onana the man that can never get fit
Very disappointing for the club record signing.
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Brentford manager Thomas Frank on team news: "Christian Norgaard is back. Mathias Jensen will be involved in the squad as well which is a positive.
"Sepp van den Berg will train with the team next week"
New club, who dis ?
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2-1. Agree that Watkins should start on the bench, maybe to come on late when hopefully we're already leading, just to rile them...
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Hopefully Baileys upwards trajectory continues , I'd also start Ramsey possibly rest Rogers although always reluctant to say that as he's become such a vital player for us.
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We do normally play well against teams who play good football so I'm feeling fairly optimistic.
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We need this. No ifs or buts.
Last league game for a month.
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Three points or mentally the league goes in the bin until August.
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We do normally play well against teams who play good football so I'm feeling fairly optimistic.
Nah, they're more like Palace than Liverpool. We're cooked.
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Frustrating draw, for me.
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It’s the sort of game where we need to win the physical battle, so I wouldn’t start Pau, Asensio or Bailey. I’d also consider Bogarde as DCM so Tielemans can have a rest and Kamara’s minutes can be managed.
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It’s the sort of game where we need to win the physical battle, so I wouldn’t start Pau, Asensio or Bailey. I’d also consider Bogarde as DCM so Tielemans can have a rest and Kamara’s minutes can be managed.
After Wednesday we don’t have a game until the end of the month so I don’t think we need to worry too much about resting players unless they are particularly fatigued.
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Nailed on defeat.
Away
After CL
At fucking Brentford
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It’s the sort of game where we need to win the physical battle, so I wouldn’t start Pau, Asensio or Bailey. I’d also consider Bogarde as DCM so Tielemans can have a rest and Kamara’s minutes can be managed.
After Wednesday we don’t have a game until the end of the month so I don’t think we need to worry too much about resting players unless they are particularly fatigued.
God point. I’d still have one eye on Wednesday, so I’d select Garcia and Malen today.
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It’s weird I had much more confidence for a Champions League away game than this. I just can’t see anything other than a loss here - hope I’m proved to be massively wrong.
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It’s the sort of game where we need to win the physical battle, so I wouldn’t start Pau, Asensio or Bailey. I’d also consider Bogarde as DCM so Tielemans can have a rest and Kamara’s minutes can be managed.
It's a physical battle and you'd start little Lamare ahead of seasoned engine room specialists like Youri and Bouba? Come on...
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It’s the sort of game where we need to win the physical battle, so I wouldn’t start Pau, Asensio or Bailey. I’d also consider Bogarde as DCM so Tielemans can have a rest and Kamara’s minutes can be managed.
It's a physical battle and you'd start little Lamare ahead of seasoned engine room specialists like Youri and Bouba? Come on...
I would play both and SJM.
Try and hold them and bring on the finishers to finish them second half.
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It’s weird I had much more confidence for a Champions League away game than this. I just can’t see anything other than a loss here - hope I’m proved to be massively wrong.
Can't see anything but a loss?
What a ridiculous thing to say!
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It’s weird I had much more confidence for a Champions League away game than this. I just can’t see anything other than a loss here - hope I’m proved to be massively wrong.
Can't see anything but a loss?
What a ridiculous thing to say!
Why, it’s his opinion.
I couldn’t predict it.
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It’s weird I had much more confidence for a Champions League away game than this. I just can’t see anything other than a loss here - hope I’m proved to be massively wrong.
Can't see anything but a loss?
What a ridiculous thing to say!
Why, it’s his opinion.
I couldn’t predict it.
It's a stupid opinion then because we won there last season and we are currently above them in the table.
So, to see nothing but a loss doesn't make any logical sense.
I guess PaulWinch again doesn't understand logic.
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We've also lost the vast majority of games that we've played after a Champions League match this season.
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We've also lost the vast majority of games that we've played after a Champions League match this season.
It would be useful to break that very unwanted record today. That and conceding on the opponents first shot. 18 times and counting I believe. Two very unenviable records for a side still only a few points outside the top 4, and in the latter stages of two major cup competitions.
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It’s weird I had much more confidence for a Champions League away game than this. I just can’t see anything other than a loss here - hope I’m proved to be massively wrong.
Can't see anything but a loss?
What a ridiculous thing to say!
Why, it’s his opinion.
I couldn’t predict it.
It's a stupid opinion then because we won there last season and we are currently above them in the table.
So, to see nothing but a loss doesn't make any logical sense.
I guess PaulWinch again doesn't understand logic.
We tend to lose away, we tend to lose after Champions League games. It’s hardly a huge logic leap. I hope I’m wrong, but this season’s trends suggest it won’t be a good one. Like I say I hope (and would be delighted if) I’m wrong.
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Hope for a positive performance having seen the team. Guessing Emi & Asensio have niggles being rested for Wednesday.