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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on February 19, 2025, 09:26:45 PM
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Cracking game. We looked good, if only we could defend.
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Great game. Gave as good as we got.
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Really good point considering our limitations today.
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We repeat that performance and we take all 3 from Chelsea.
Good result
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Couple of big chances at the end there. I guess they missed big ones too.
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Decent game. Fair result.
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Once Rashford can play 90 minutes....., however we created some decent chances after the loanees went off which was also encouraging.
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I was surprised by how much space they gave us tbh
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We can be as good as anyone (especially if we could defend).
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poor start but once we upped the tempo we were in it. good point.
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Virgil is disappointed. ******. Great performance.
I think we can win a cup this year. Maybe a big one.
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This season, we gifted them three goals over both matches, I just hope we are over that when we meet in the CL final.
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Some absolutely superb forward play.Fine margins but I thought we deserved to win.
Shout out to Disasi; he was immense
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So many positives. Axel sharper than Konsa has been this season
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We gifted them a goal and a lucky deflection. I thought we looked really strong after the 3 subs came on. If only we could get the rest of our players fit. The options would be great and players get to rest.
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This season, we gifted them three goals over both matches, I just hope we are over that when we meet in the CL final.
Exactly this
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So many positives. Axel sharper than Konsa has been this season
Going to miss him Saturday.
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Really good game, with some lovely passages of play from us at times. Shame we gifted them a goal, but they also missed an absolute sitter to even it up.
I think this shows we can comfortably mix it with the very best when we need to, and we gave them a proper game. We just need to cut out the silly mistakes.
I thought McGinn was excellent (apart from that pass in the first few mins), as was Tielemens, who at times appeared completely unpressable. Cracking goal from Ollie.
It's a shame neither Rogers or Malen could hit the target right at the end, would have been great way to finish. Still, a point against the likely Champions isn't the worst result in the world. Let's us that performance as a platform to really push on to the end of the season!
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Good game. Deserved a point and I was delighted they went for it in the last 10 minutes. Can't knock any of the players today, Garcia learnt a harsh lesson about being switched on but he didn't hide afterwards, good lad.
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We could have won it at the end, but so could they. Happy enough with the point on my first outing as the match thread starter.
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Really good performance. Could've won, could've lost but there were 7s and 8s all over the park tonight so that's a positive.
Now let's properly build on this and beat Chelsea.
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Great game - take that. Both sides could have won it.
Ollie was brilliant all night, exceptional.
Disasi really impressed me.
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Rogers should not be pushed out wide for Aesensio..
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So many positives. Axel sharper than Konsa has been this season
Going to miss him Saturday.
Yep. Was pleasantly surprised how good he was on the ball, I'd always imagined him as a more 'industrial' centre-half, but he was quite comfortable in our pass-from-the-back style, even showing some nice attacking touches at times. Looks decent.
God knows who'll partner Tyrone at the weekend!
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Great game of football. Decent performance overall against an excellent team.
Defensively a bit iffy at times. Enough to work on. Unfortunately does rather look like its fizzling out in the league
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Fun fact. Saturday we will have our 11th different central defensive partnership of the season. I think.
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Even though that probably means CL is out of reach as in top 5, that was a top performance against a excellent side.
Well done we could have won that but we looked good. Slowly getting players back so you can see if we had a full squad we can cause anyone issues
Thought mings was excellent even though he mad a big error.
Rogers wasnt that good today. Definitely looks knackerd
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Even though that probably means CL is out of reach as in top 5, that was a top performance against a excellent side.
Well done we could have won that but we looked good. Slowly getting players back so you can see if we had a full squad we can cause anyone issues
Thought mings was excellent even though he mad a big error.
Rogers wasnt that good today. Definitely looks knackerd
Rogers was very good second half.
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Stepped up against the best team out there. No complaints.
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Rogers was the best player on the pitch for the last 20 mins
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Just to add it was a nice one-two for Ollies goal.
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Great performance and Desasi was immense. Sadly we needed 7 points out of these 3 home games and we will do well to get 5.
The ref gave then every marginal call including the foul on Watkins that led to their equaliser.
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Good performance, if only we could do that vs lower table sides.
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Rogers should not be pushed out wide for Aesensio..
It worked fine and then was a way to mix it up later.
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Word for the ref….let the game flow and it was the better for it..
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Good performance against a strong team, could have gone either way in the end. Apart from his obvious mistake Garcia looked good in the first half.
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Slot just said that had way more chances than us. Cock.
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So many positives. Axel sharper than Konsa has been this season
Going to miss him Saturday.
Yep. Was pleasantly surprised how good he was on the ball, I'd always imagined him as a more 'industrial' centre-half, but he was quite comfortable in our pass-from-the-back style, even showing some nice attacking touches at times. Looks decent.
God knows who'll partner Tyrone at the weekend!
Bogarde getting minutes at the end hints at him coming in if Konsa isn't quite ready.
I wasn't keen on Disasi as he always looked an accident waiting to happen at Chelsea but done very well so far.
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Slot - what a disrespectful turd
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Bogarde getting minutes at the end hints at him coming in if Konsa isn't quite ready.
I wasn't keen on Disasi as he always looked an accident waiting to happen at Chelsea but done very well so far.
Mostly played as RB for them though.
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Slot just said that had way more chances than us. Cock.
All managers will focus on their teams chances. Nothing new.
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Need to beat Chelsea now though to make the most of the performance.
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Was Slot watching the same game ? Typical entitled Liverpool bollocks.
Great stuff Villa !
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One thing I quite enjoyed is those last 5 or 6 minutes, we were the ones in the ascendency, looking most likely to win. You would expect the team playing Liverpool at 2-2 going into 90 minutes would be under the cosh, but if anything we had the momentum at the end. We didn't get the goal with either of Roger or Malen's chances at the deal, but i think it says a lot about this team that we were pushing for a winner rather than sitting back to accept a draw against the likely champions.
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Slot - what a disrespectful turd
What a feckin tool. I though Arteta was blinkered, bit this no mark. Jeez.
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Harsh reality is that we need to start winning games and putting in performances like tonight against all teams. 9th isn't good enough. Got to put in similar performances every week and stop conceding two goals a game. Some good moments tonight and pleased not to have lost.
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We played very well - especially considering two of our back four weren't here 3 weeks ago, Mings is clearly not 100%, both our CDM are out.
Could easily have won - but I just dont get why we cant play like that every week.
Commentry was shit on TNT, annoyed with why we have to put up with this basis shit.
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Slot is an ungracious c***, they were playing for a draw last 20 minutes.
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The subs changed the game. Killed it for them and gave us a bit more solidity.
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Harsh reality is that we need to start winning games and putting in performances like tonight against all teams. 9th isn't good enough. Got to put in similar performances every week and stop conceding two goals a game. Some good moments tonight and pleased not to have lost.
agree and we concede 2 again.
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Good performance, if only we could do that vs lower table sides.
Exactly.
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They had 17 attempts to our 9. Both managers will think their team deserved to win. And rightly so.
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Slot - what a disrespectful turd
Hes a cock. Typical liverpool manager - hasnt achieved a 10th of what Unai has but we have to listen to them being compared just because he happens to manage the team with the best players.
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I dream of the day when we can have a settled back four or just a settled XI for a few games in a row. Its must drive Emery crazy that he is forced into changes more often than he’d like. So disruptive. But tonight was a very good overall display. We had some chances, two good goals and we rode our luck a bit they weren’t more decisive.
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I dream of the day when we can have a settled back four or just a settled XI for a few games in a row. Its must drive Emery crazy that he is forced into changes more often than he’d like. So disruptive. But tonight was a very good overall display. We had some chances, two good goals and we rode our luck a bit they weren’t more decisive.
I agree - but at the same time - we gifted them a goal and they were lucky with there deflection
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Even though that probably means CL is out of reach as in top 5, that was a top performance against a excellent side.
Well done we could have won that but we looked good. Slowly getting players back so you can see if we had a full squad we can cause anyone issues
Thought mings was excellent even though he mad a big error.
Rogers wasnt that good today. Definitely looks knackerd
Rogers was very good second half.
I thought he was non existant in first 70 mins. Was only decent towards final 20.
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
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Hope we're not cooked and bombed for the Chelsea game. If we play at that intensity again, we'll win.
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Of the new boys, Garcia despite his mistake was always a threat, great running and crossing, not scared to put a foot in either, looks an absolute bargain.
Rashford looked okay, Asensio looks better out wide than in the middle, neither really helped on on defensive duties. Disasi gave his all and looked like he's ready to fight for his place. Malen I'm really starting to love, he makes things happen and brings a real attacking goal threat. Good to see him move in more centrally as he's wasted out wide.
Emi saves us so many points, tonight was another demonstration of how important he is to us.
Great goal for Watkins who was rarely in the game but deserved that goal with his important role in the build up play then sprinting to get the return. Superb stuff as was the cross from Digne.
Overall, a good team performance but I have to say again, Liverpool's ability to win almost every 50/50 was something rarely seen. They're nothing special but it's a fantastic trait to have right across the pitch. If they're like that every game it's no surprise they're top of the league.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
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Fair result, though we could have nicked it twice towards the end and we scored 4 goals against the league leaders.
Disasi was may motm for Villa, looked very good. The whole team played well after the shaky start. Both 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' goals were spawny and on another day we would win comfortably.
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Hope we're not cooked and bombed for the Chelsea game. If we play at that intensity again, we'll win.
Im expecting we will be. That took a lot out of us.
Slot taking off trent changed the game in our favour that was a strange sub
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !
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'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans going berzerk with nunez missing open goal and smiling afterwards.
Hilarious
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Disasi 4? Were we watching the same game? I'm not saying he was outstanding, but he was pretty good, considering it was his first start with Mings.
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.
I didn't mean that's what he said, that's what I think. I think they probably did have the more clear chances, I'm not particularly worked up about what he said.
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Football fans have such thin skin at times
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Played the top team with quite a few key players out and got a draw / could have won. Build on that and we move up the table.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !
Disasi looked superb to me but maybe you have more off the ball insight? On it he was certainly very good and made a couple of saving tackles.
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Disasi made a couple of mistakes but in the main was excellent. 4 is a crazy rating.
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I reckon this will be the CL 1/4 final
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Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
The average mark there is less than 6. If I hadn't seen the game I'd assume Liverpool had an easy night and turned us over by at least a three goal margin.
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.
They had better ones than we did, missing a couple of sitters. Their xG was 2.44 v 0.73 for us. Just happened we were mostly on top in injury time which I wouldn't have anticipated.
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In fact all of those “4’s” are just daft. I realise it’s about opinions, but those assessments are just off.
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We have so many injuries, players playing out of position and several new faces, and yet we were inches away from winning at the death. If we could just get a regular set of faces in defence we might yet get 5th
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'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans going berzerk with nunez missing open goal and smiling afterwards.
Hilarious
That was an appalling effort but the defending there from Mings was pub league level. So many times tonight our defending was rotten, not just the back 4 either. Little or no pressure on the ball in dangerous areas, full backs left isolated.
Bad night for Slot taking off Jota and TAA.
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'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans going berzerk with nunez missing open goal and smiling afterwards.
Hilarious
That was an appalling effort but the defending there from Mings was pub league level. So many times tonight our defending was rotten, not just the back 4 either. Little or no pressure on the ball in dangerous areas, full backs left isolated.
Bad night for Slot taking off Jota and TAA.
Disasi also did well on that. Nunes should have scored anyway but he was definitely put off.
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A lot of half and half scarves in The Witton Upper tonight, with red halves very prominent. Down with that sort of thing.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
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With 6 or so injured I thought we were excellent.
The usual calamity at the back but we responded well and showed some real fight. Can’t knock any of them even if the ref was letting them take free kicks and throw ins from wherever they wanted.
UTV
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Not sure I watched the same game as you….
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !
Disasi looked superb to me but maybe you have more off the ball insight? On it he was certainly very good and made a couple of saving tackles.
No way is Disasi 4, nuts.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Erm, we were 2-1 up?
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Should have won that really.In hindsight, maybe starting Ramsey instead of Asensio would have been better. I thought Malen looked great when came on but apart from some very sloppy passing, we deserved the point.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Erm, we were 2-1 up?
We were also 1-0 down
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I can see Mings getting a 4, they could have had a couple purely from him.
I'd give Disasi 8.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Erm, we were 2-1 up?
We were also 1-0 down
I guess it's a glass half full/empty debate!
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Erm, we were 2-1 up?
We were also 1-0 down. So the stat will be gained a point from a losing position but dropped 2 from a winning position.
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Some posters are forgetting that bronte, after Rudolf Nureyev appeared at the Bescot for a charity ballet-off with Gary Newbon rated his performance worthy of a 2/10. "His port de bras is a disgrace, and if Niklaus Helenius had turned in a pas de deux like that he'd have been hounded out of dodge. The lad's a myth." He said at the time.
Newbon got a 7.
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Asensio looked like 5% off it, I reckon with a few more games he’ll be very handy.
Nice to see really good impact from the subs, we were struggling when they came on but they helped wrestle it back.
Also I was critical of Youri’s general play in the first half but he improved on that a lot in the second.
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Some posters are forgetting that bronte, after Rudolf Nureyev appeared at the Bescot for a charity ballet-off with Gary Newbon rated his performance worthy of a 2/10. "His port de bras is a disgrace, and if Niklaus Helenius had turned in a pas de deux like that he'd have been hounded out of dodge. The lad's a myth." He said at the time.
Newbon got a 7.
Ha
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Not a disaster, plenty to build on until the end of the season.
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I always enjoy reading Bronte scorecard, but some of tonight's scores were way off the Mark, no way Desai was a 4.
One time he held the line and should have followed the man in the first half almost gave away a goal, but not alone there.
With our injuries it is hard to be critical, sadly I think that when others are fit Mings will be slipping down the order, crazy fuck up saved by Emi
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Disasi 4? Were we watching the same game? I'm not saying he was outstanding, but he was pretty good, considering it was his first start with Mings.
I think he going for the WM statement or a social media hit but I've fallen for it and given him some attention. Disasi, Mings Rashford and Asensio 4....behave that's utter bollocks.
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Definite corruption at PGMOL. I don’t know if you’ve heard but the VAR was from Rhode Island or whatever it was
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Bronte and his silly marks are best ignored.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
we were playing the clear leaders of the league and favourites to win it, and arguably the best team in Europe at the moment. If our CBs only got a 4, along with Rashford and Asensio then we've just been battered 4-0 at home. I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.
They had better ones than we did, missing a couple of sitters. Their xG was 2.44 v 0.73 for us. Just happened we were mostly on top in injury time which I wouldn't have anticipated.
Leaving aside xG, the actual score, chances created, possession stats, referee decisions, VAR, substitutions ,who was on top at the start or the end and during any of the time in between the main point being made is that without doubt and inarguably the present Liverpool manager (like the previous incumbent) is a twat.
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We could have won it at the end, but so could they. Happy enough with the point on my first outing as the match thread starter.
A solid debut, I thought
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Draw fair result. Asensio Rashford and mings faded as game wore. Had visions of the United Rashford as he sadly tracked Trent for their 2nd. Thought Cash gave us a bit of energy when he came on also.
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I must be in a small minority but i thought mings was good barring the error for nunez. He worked very hard
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Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.
Post of the night
Hats off to you Mr Lochead
A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.
Disasi looked really good, very impressed.
Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.
They had better ones than we did, missing a couple of sitters. Their xG was 2.44 v 0.73 for us. Just happened we were mostly on top in injury time which I wouldn't have anticipated.
Leaving aside xG, the actual score, chances created, possession stats, referee decisions, VAR, substitutions ,who was on top at the start or the end and during any of the time in between the main point being made is that without doubt and inarguably the present Liverpool manager (like the previous incumbent) is a twat.
Post of the night
Hats off to you Mr Lochhead
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Probably about fair overall. Their equaliser was dead jammy and they were hanging on for dear life at the end. But we could have already lost the game in the opening minutes when we were playing Kamikaze passes with gay abandon. It was exciting, anyway. Great to have players like Malen and Ramsey to come off the bench.
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Really good performance against possibly the best team in Europe .
Ascensio wasted some great through balls , Rashford was a handhull, Disasi superb I thought as was Garcia (mistake aside ) game plan was good and we were millimetres away from 3 points .
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I want the Chelsea game to be tomorrow and that's a measure of how well we did tonight, in the context of the season, how good they are and how the ref let them take throw ins and free kicks from wherever they wanted.
I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
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I want the Chelsea game to be tomorrow and that's a measure of how well we did tonight, in the context of the season, how good they are and how the ref let them take throw ins and free kicks from wherever they wanted.
I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
Yes I heard him.
Total entitled twat.
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I want the Chelsea game to be tomorrow and that's a measure of how well we did tonight, in the context of the season, how good they are and how the ref let them take throw ins and free kicks from wherever they wanted.
I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
Yes I heard him.
Total entitled twat.
There were people doubting the fact that Slott is a complete wanker on here only a few weeks ago.
Now we are seeing what a total good bag he is , he could not have got the job without being a twat.
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I always enjoy reading Bronte scorecard, but some of tonight's scores were way off the Mark, no way Desai was a 4.
One time he held the line and should have followed the man in the first half almost gave away a goal, but not alone there.
With our injuries it is hard to be critical, sadly I think that when others are fit Mings will be slipping down the order, crazy fuck up saved by Emi
Thought our back 4, apart from Digne were all over the place. Spaces between them, when to push up, when to drop off. Maybe it's to be expected with the constant changes back there, no Kamara in front of them, but it's every game. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Disasi, Mings was a lot worse looking back.
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I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
I'll tell you, honestly. I would love it if we knocked them out of the Champions League. Love it!
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Martinez:8
Great Sweeping up , Class presence in goal.
Garcia:5.5
Shocking pass give away for goal , good learning experience for him to play has a .5 off
Disasi: 7.5
Enjoyed his attacking foray down the left and galvanising crowd . shows composure on ball
Mings: 6.5
Near Calamity but was generally solid and pushed at end up on the left side attack -helping create a chance
Digne:7
Lovely Cross for goal , lack of needless fouls.
McGinn:7
always puts the effort in despite a struggle on the ball in possession at times in first 15 or so minutes became a driving force aiding the team and actually getting involved
Tielemans:7.5
grew into game and best midfielder on the pitch, was available and showing for the ball
Rogers: 6.5
His best work came in second half but another poor miss the target and finishing
Rashford:6.5
Fair and showed glimpses like nice nut meg on mcalister but fouled in process , should have scored or created chance when best Alison to ball but failed with effort at goal, gave a couple of careless passes and balls in that went out of play but mixed in with visible effort and class touches. Exciting player who want to see more of starting in team.
Asensio: 6 Rightfully subbed of. A great player though and will find his match sharpness want to see him given more freedom to create and chance to shoot. Given no opportunities to shoot today
also could have made some telling passing but lacked accuracy and intercepted. unlucky in some respects still a class act
Malen: 6.5
Lively and actually should have scored or at least hit target at final moments .5 mark off for not scoring
Cash:6
Solid tackle flying in and made it otherwise a booking but in final minutes there was lack of composure and footy intelligence ideas led to wild shot when could have continued build up play Emery and I don’t like this
Ramsey: 7.5
Creative and actually scored his one and one with nice finish. american VAR decided not to give it
Maatsen:7
I thought carried the fight and willingness to attack.
i like how he scurries forward with the ball and offers something offensively
Bogarde N/A
not enough time to warrant a mark but invaluable experience and have trust in him . solid player.
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Ref Slot comments I heard his general press conf and also pitch side interview and I thought he was very complimentary of us whilst slaughtering Nunez.
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Go back to playing darts, you twat.
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We don’t lose big games when McGinn is on song.
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Ref Slot comments I heard his general press conf and also pitch side interview and I thought he was very complimentary of us whilst slaughtering Nunez.
He was complimentary about us at first in the interview I heard. His other comments were juvenile, pathetic and had all the hallmarks of someone who is unable to accept a result not going his way.
The massive wanker.
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Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Tough crowd.
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Maybe I'm getting mixed up, but I'm sure Brontesaurus didn't give a rating over 7/10 when we beat them 7-2.
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The ingredients look good , Garcia looks a great player in the making , well done Monchi.
Malen is going to be a great signing once settled .
We are going through a few rough waves at the moment but once we come out I think we'll be flying .
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Maybe I'm getting mixed up, but I'm sure Brontesaurus didn't give a rating over 7/10 when we beat them 7-2.
Bloody all deflected shots, weren't they? Shouldn't count.
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Maybe I'm getting mixed up, but I'm sure Brontesaurus didn't give a rating over 7/10 when we beat them 7-2.
Bloody all deflected shots, weren't they? Shouldn't count.
I'd agree with that tonight, tbf. ☹️
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Maybe I'm getting mixed up, but I'm sure Brontesaurus didn't give a rating over 7/10 when we beat them 7-2.
Bloody all deflected shots, weren't they? Shouldn't count.
I'd agree with that tonight, tbf. ☹️
Fuck, yeah.
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Martinez:8
Great Sweeping up , Class presence in goal.
Garcia:5.5
Shocking pass give away for goal , good learning experience for him to play has a .5 off
Disasi: 7.5
Enjoyed his attacking foray down the left and galvanising crowd . shows composure on ball
Mings: 6.5
Near Calamity but was generally solid and pushed at end up on the left side attack -helping create a chance
Digne:7
Lovely Cross for goal , lack of needless fouls.
McGinn:7
always puts the effort in despite a struggle on the ball in possession at times in first 15 or so minutes became a driving force aiding the team and actually getting involved
Tielemans:7.5
grew into game and best midfielder on the pitch, was available and showing for the ball
Rogers: 6.5
His best work came in second half but another poor miss the target and finishing
Rashford:6.5
Fair and showed glimpses like nice nut meg on mcalister but fouled in process , should have scored or created chance when best Alison to ball but failed with effort at goal, gave a couple of careless passes and balls in that went out of play but mixed in with visible effort and class touches. Exciting player who want to see more of starting in team.
Asensio: 6 Rightfully subbed of. A great player though and will find his match sharpness want to see him given more freedom to create and chance to shoot. Given no opportunities to shoot today
also could have made some telling passing but lacked accuracy and intercepted. unlucky in some respects still a class act
Malen: 6.5
Lively and actually should have scored or at least hit target at final moments .5 mark off for not scoring
Cash:6
Solid tackle flying in and made it otherwise a booking but in final minutes there was lack of composure and footy intelligence ideas led to wild shot when could have continued build up play Emery and I don’t like this
Ramsey: 7.5
Creative and actually scored his one and one with nice finish. american VAR decided not to give it
Maatsen:7
I thought carried the fight and willingness to attack.
i like how he scurries forward with the ball and offers something offensively
Bogarde N/A
not enough time to warrant a mark but invaluable experience and have trust in him . solid player.
Watkins!!?
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Really good performance against possibly the best team in Europe .
Ascensio wasted some great through balls , Rashford was a handhull, Disasi superb I thought as was Garcia (mistake aside ) game plan was good and we were millimetres away from 3 points .
Totally agree.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Unfortunately is does not make up for how many we have lost/drawn from winning positions.
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Aston Villa have won 15 points from losing positions in the Premier League this season, only Manchester City (17) and Liverpool (16) have recovered more.
Unfortunately is does not make up for how many we have lost/drawn from winning positions.
We could end up top of two leagues! Take that Liverpool, you twats!
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One thing on Garcia, the lad can really cross a ball, right? It seemed to me like he got in a few very good crosses, even when he only had half a yard of space in which to get them in. I think that's a very promising development in terms of evening up our one-sidedness when it comes to attacking full-backs. I do wonder if that's a trait that Monchi and the recruitment team saw and want to develop.
Yes, big mistake for the goal, but I suspect that's a mistake he learns from and never makes again.
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I must be in a small minority but i thought mings was good barring the error for nunez. He worked very hard
Shock of the night. I'm in the same small minority as Demetri_C.
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Mings did some good saving tackles and blocks but he has not got back to his best and sometimes seems one step short, leading to overstretching and risking injury. However he must be inevitably wary since the injury.
I thought Disasi played well considering the opposition.
Tielemans was my man of the match tonight and going forward we looked good.
I thought the referee showed unconscious (hopefully) bias to them with fouls given to them but equivalent or worse ones not given to us, and letting Van Dijk act as an official.
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A great performance from us but, as usual, Liverpool brought their own ref. There was so much niggling going on off the ball particularly from Jota.
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I see Bronte’s been at the L’Equipe medicine again.
I thought McGinn and Tielemans were excellent after a ropey start and Watkins had his usual good game with an excellent goal.
Fully deserved point and could have nicked it.
I was intrigued that Emery said in his post match on Pravda TV that we have entered a new era, so obviously we’re adapting to new methods so things may be up and down for a while.
Onwards….
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Play that well in the cups we have a chance .
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My highlight was Digne's tackle on Salah in the first half.
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One thing on Garcia, the lad can really cross a ball, right? It seemed to me like he got in a few very good crosses, even when he only had half a yard of space in which to get them in. I think that's a very promising development in terms of evening up our one-sidedness when it comes to attacking full-backs. I do wonder if that's a trait that Monchi and the recruitment team saw and want to develop.
Yes, big mistake for the goal, but I suspect that's a mistake he learns from and never makes again.
I agree - I think we lost an outlet when cash came knocking. I like cash and his energy but his final ball isn’t good enough for this level - I think Garica will quickly replace him - that said cash is a great player to have in the squad.
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Definite corruption at PGMOL. I don’t know if you’ve heard but the VAR was from Rhode Island or whatever it was
We're trying to bring soccer to America again.
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I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
Who said this, Toss or Slot?
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I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
Who said this, Toss or Slot?
It was Slot he generally talked a load of bollocks. Seemed to me a man feeling the pressure.
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Didn't he get carded again?
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I thought Emery was booked. Can't see confirmation anywhere, though.
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Went earlier. Could well have won it, could well have lost it, so a draw was probably right overall. In boxing terms, I thought we went toe-to-toe with them tonight and although at times we were like a boxer swinging away with his chin in the air and risking being knocked out, we landed plenty of blows ourselves. Thought we got our usual standard of officiating when we play then, they gave them pretty much all the marginal calls.
Enjoyable game and shame it was shoehorned into midweek in a bust period as it deserved a much better billing.
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My highlight was Digne's tackle on Salah in the first half.
Even that was overshadowed by Emi Martinez's one on Nunez. It was the very epitome of shit or bust.
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I thought Emery was booked. Can't see confirmation anywhere, though.
Commentary I had said our flaxen-haired set piece coach got the yellow card.
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Their goals came from a mistake and a deflection . Our goals came from beautiful football and finishing.
They missed glorious chances. We had great attempts that didn't quite cut the mustard.
They had a settled side with their best players all available and fit. We had our best defenders and central midfielders out.
Their manager was one eyed. Our manager was fair and balanced.
Their supporters were entitled. Our fans were expectant and hopeful.
They were Liverpool. We are Aston Villa.
Their team will get tired as time goes in in the Premier League. We will finish more strongly in the Premier League as players return and gain match fitness.
They will face us in the Champions League. We will beat them in the Champions League.
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Mings did some good saving tackles and blocks but he has not got back to his best and sometimes seems one step short, leading to overstretching and risking injury. However he must be inevitably wary since the injury.
I thought Disasi played well considering the opposition.
Tielemans was my man of the match tonight and going forward we looked good.
I thought the referee showed unconscious (hopefully) bias to them with fouls given to them but equivalent or worse ones not given to us, and letting Van Dijk act as an official.
The worst thing he did was playing advantage for us when Rogers was being fouled, then not bringing it back and giving us a free-kick when no advantage occurred as Ollie lost the ball straight after. They went on to score the equaliser from that passage of play.
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Saw a comment on social media, "There is no footballer more lethal in front of goal than a marginally offside Villa player".
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Their goals came from a mistake and a deflection . Our goals came from beautiful football and finishing.
They missed glorious chances. We had great attempts that didn't quite cut the mustard.
They had a settled side with their best players all available and fit. We had our best defenders and central midfielders out.
Their manager was one eyed. Our manager was fair and balanced.
Their supporters were entitled. Our fans were expectant and hopeful.
They were Liverpool. We are Aston Villa.
Their team will get tired as time goes in in the Premier League. We will finish more strongly in the Premier League as players return and gain match fitness.
They will face us in the Champions League. We will beat them in the Champions League.
Great summary. Would be tremendous for the final sentence to come to fruition.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !
Agree, Disasi was very good tonight. Giving him 4/10 is ridiculous!
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Yep, strong performance from Disasi.
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Disasi was absolutely fine.
Cueball has shown his true colours of late hasn't he. Bit of pressure does that to people.
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Some of those ratings are mental. Nobody deserved below a 6. Disasi was excellent.
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Good game and a good point.
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I stopped taking brontebilly seriously when he started saying that the more goals a defence concedes, the better it is.
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I thought Emery was booked. Can't see confirmation anywhere, though.
Commentary I had said our flaxen-haired set piece coach got the yellow card.
BBC said Slot.
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Saw a comment on social media, "There is no footballer more lethal in front of goal than a marginally offside Villa player".
I said something similar to my mate for Ramsey’ one.
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I stopped taking brontebilly seriously when he started saying that the more goals a defence concedes, the better it is.
Still missing Diego, petal?
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
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Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Agree with most of that: I think Mings (after a very dodgy start) and Disasi deserve more.
Rashford's passing was very wayward for most of the game, but him being there drew the opposition defence.
Rogers needs some time off and to learn when to pass.
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Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
I thought it was good, guttural at times but that was in response to the effort and desire of the team. The perception that you're playing against 12 men engenders the feeling of injustice which also boosts the volume. Not much from them apart from when they scored.
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Looking back, their second goal had three pieces of luck. The pullback on Ollie right at the start, Digne sliding in and getting a chunk of the ball but it bouncing back to Salah's path instead of going away from him, and then the deflection when it was either going wide or being saved.
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With Rogers effort towards the end he had a Villa played inside him with an open goal waiting.
He is still rough around the edges.
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.
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With Rogers effort towards the end he had a Villa played inside him with an open goal waiting.
He is still rough around the edges.
Agreed. Similar to the Spurs cup game when he shot after the move with Asensio instead of squaring to an unmarked Rashford. He's young though, got huge potential.
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Lay off the booze
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Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us
I was worried that was going to get the goal ruled out.
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With Rogers effort towards the end he had a Villa played inside him with an open goal waiting.
He is still rough around the edges.
Tielemans was the most open player (almost on the edge of the area) and his shot would have needed to miss Van Djik and Disasi who were in front of him, and Allison who was still in his goal mouth. Bogarde was also open just behind him but he also would have had a tough shot. Should have done better still.
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Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us
I was worried that was going to get the goal ruled out.
Ball was kicked against his hand from 6 inches out. Would have been a tough call. but seen them given. How far before the goal was that btw?
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Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us
I was worried that was going to get the goal ruled out.
Ball was kicked against his hand from 6 inches out. Would have been a tough call. but seen them given. How far before the goal was that btw?
I fully expected it to be ruled out so was pleasantly surprised that it wasn’t looked at. Maybe it was and they thought it was too far back to use it even though it was against Liverpool.
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If a goal was disallowed for that i'd think it a shit decision, whether it was for or against us.
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Malen's chance was closer then I first thought and was passed Allison before he dived.
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.
Only empty seats I could see were blocks in the top of the Trinity Road and Doug Ellis Lower and I think we all know which seats those are.
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.
On TV with the sound up the atmosphere came over well!
I would agree for the reasons for it not being a full, as I would have probably come down even on a weeknight if it wasn’t in a run of 4 home games in a fortnight!
However, in some ways I think it may be misleading to say it wasn’t sold out. Jane & I put our STs for this game back to the club for sale quite early on, and they did sell. They don’t usually sell returned season tickets until it’s sold out. So the empty seats were likely to be mostly season tickets seats which hadn’t resold. I think they let them back on sale only when there is a low number of single GA+ remaining. Mine & Janes would have been there as soon as they were released, and are in a decent spot and are a pair, but this didn’t happen until a few days ago.
So - I think, there were tickets for sale, but if they didn’t sell, they were mostly already sold (to season ticket holders) if that makes sense.
Also noted on this occasion - my ST divided by the 19 games it covers is worth just over £33 a game. On resale we got just over £20! (Due to the deduction of an ‘admin’ fee). Those same seats would have then been resold for £55! So overall the club got £88 for my seat for this game instead of the original £33 they would have got out of me!
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A good performance, crap at the back as usual but ultimately another game without a win.
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.
On TV with the sound up the atmosphere came over well!
I would agree for the reasons for it not being a full, as I would have probably come down even on a weeknight if it wasn’t in a run of 4 home games in a fortnight!
However, in some ways I think it may be misleading to say it wasn’t sold out. Jane & I put our STs for this game back to the club for sale quite early on, and they did sell. They don’t usually sell returned season tickets until it’s sold out. So the empty seats were likely to be mostly season tickets seats which hadn’t resold. I think they let them back on sale only when there is a low number of single GA+ remaining. Mine & Janes would have been there as soon as they were released, and are in a decent spot and are a pair, but this didn’t happen until a few days ago.
So - I think, there were tickets for sale, but if they didn’t sell, they were mostly already sold (to season ticket holders) if that makes sense.
Also noted on this occasion - my ST divided by the 19 games it covers is worth just over £33 a game. On resale we got just over £20! (Due to the deduction of an ‘admin’ fee). Those same seats would have then been resold for £55! So overall the club got £88 for my seat for this game instead of the original £33 they would have got out of me!
Chris Heck likes that last paragraph!!
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Why were the players wearing black arm bands last night?
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Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...
But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.
Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !
Agree, Disasi was very good tonight. Giving him 4/10 is ridiculous!
Some of those assessments are bonkers. I thought Disasi looked really good. A solid 7 imo. I agree that Mings wasn't great though. Once they're all fit ill be happy with Konsa, Disasi and Pau as our best options. Any two out of the three would do for me.
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If we could actually defend i think this team finishes top four easy. Just annoying we have anothee game saturday and even if they are not in great form chelsea are a decent side
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Those brontebilly assessments remind me of a Two Ronnies sketch where a question is answered with the answer to the previous question.
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What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.
Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.
Only empty seats I could see were blocks in the top of the Trinity Road and Doug Ellis Lower and I think we all know which seats those are.
Also ST holders who couldn't make it. eg the lad who sits in front of me and the two blokes to my left.
That'll account for some of the blue behind the dugouts
What were the black armbands for ?
(although not all players seemed to be wearing them)
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A deserved point against a team, who may well finish Premier League and CL winners. Thought Tielemans was MOM great display, full credit goes to Garcia follow his cock up, went on to give a fine display, shows a lot about his character, after an average first half, Rogers was always a constant threat to Liverpool, mentions also go to Ollie, what a header, Digne against Salah and Disasi, shame he can't play on Saturday.
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Ridiculous scores. Garcia superb at least a 7. Gave ball away once. Mcginn had given ball away about 5 times before that and was shocking for an hour and you give him a 7. Had we had 4 players with a 4 out of 10 and a player with a 5 out of ten (half a team) we would have been battered. No player deserved less than a 6. Mings was pretty solid most of the game and made one goal saving tackle. He tired towards the end which was not unexpected with over 12 months out and a further recent injury and also seemed to have a knock early in first half. We have been much more dominant in the air since Mings came back in and dont look as vulnerable from set pieces as we were. Disasi was also very good. Only a Chelsea fan would give him a 4 lol. You obviously saw a different game to most of us.
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Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?
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Why were the players wearing black arm bands last night?
The Dog shit getting to Wembley.
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There were a couple seats empty by us and two new chaps in front of us, one of whom spent the first 10 minutes of the second half showing his mate pictures of his holiday in where I presume was Thailand judging by the amount of women in the pictures.
Not that I was looking.
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I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.
Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we gave the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.
To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.
Overall, a good draw and a great game.
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I stopped taking brontebilly seriously when he started saying that the more goals a defence concedes, the better it is.
Still missing Diego, petal?
Not really, but I miss the clean sheets, we used to keep a lot more when he played. How about you breezeblock?
The football knowledge of a balloon AND homophobic. What a combination.
Still think the hallmark of a good defence is conceding lots of goals? I mean, that’s a pretty ‘out there’ opinion no?
This season’s clean sheets:
Young Boys
Bayern
Juventus
Bologna
Man Utd
Southampton
Everton
Guess who played centre-half in all but the Everton game?
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I don’t know who they are selling tickets to but it’s becoming an issue by me in the lower Holte.
Lots of half and halfers who simply cannot read their tickets. I’ve now had issues at the Palace, Spurs and West Ham games where people have been in my seat. On 2 of those occasions I’ve had to explain that I’ve sat there for years and last night some bloke actually stood directly in front of me in my space.
I’ve had someone tell me they should sit where I do as it’s an isle seat and they needed the room and last night I made the cardinal sin of going to the toilet during the first half and the bloke next to me had moved over thinking I was going to stand in the isle. If it wasn’t for the lads around me shouting at him to move it could’ve got a bit nasty.
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I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.
Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.
To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.
Overall, a good draw and a great game.
I agree great game , but the first 5 minutes I was behind the sofa !!
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Its about time there was a cull of people wearing half/half scarves, I know the world needs a bit more love in desperate times, but not for these ******. Perhaps something could be done to involve them in the half time entertainment, probably involving lions.
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Its about time there was a cull of people wearing half/half scarves, I know the world needs a bit more love in desperate times, but not for these ******. Perhaps something could be done to involve them in the half time entertainment, probably involving lions.
The ball into the target should be pushed more and bring away fans into it . it is a great game !
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I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.
Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.
To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.
Overall, a good draw and a great game.
That's how I seen it too.
Liverpool pressed us really well and forced those mistakes but 2nd half we persevered with the passing out from the back and had some success through the middle.
Agree with you regarding Rogers too. He played really well after a very iffy first hour. Should have done much better with that shot 2nd half. He's got to at least make the keeper work from that position. He'll learn.
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Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?
Yeah probably - I still think a£13 admin charge on a resale is a pisstake though!
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Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times
Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym
Agree with most of that: I think Mings (after a very dodgy start) and Disasi deserve more.
Rashford's passing was very wayward for most of the game, but him being there drew the opposition defence.
Rogers needs some time off and to learn when to pass.
Rashford was up against a guy who can't defend. There were some nice touches but when did he really go after him? We gave up any semblance of balance in midfield to accommodate Rashford and Asensio and neither performed, both could have been hooked 10 mins earlier. Rashford walking after TAA for their second goal was scandalous really. The team was so much better balanced after the three subs with Rogers back in his best position, Ramsey on left, Cash and Malen on the right.
Obviously Liverpool are levels above 10 man Ipswich and a Spurs team with zero belief but we don't have the luxury of giving those two another 4 or 5 games to get match fit.
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I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.
Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.
To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.
Overall, a good draw and a great game.
I agree great game , but the first 5 minutes I was behind the sofa !!
I think thats the bit that annoys me - as actually we dont often look like conceeding until we do something rubbish. At the end of the day we have such a concentration fo injuries around CB and CM that I think thats really killed our chance of momentum.
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To give them a little credit, Liverpool clearly know TAA is going to be exposed in a 1-1 with Rashford so the covering midfielder was very quick to get over whenever he got the ball, difficult for Rashford to stay wide and isolate him as its probably only Mings of the defenders capable of hitting the long switch, and he's already playing on the left of the CBs.
I thought he did fine, and an hour against possibly the best team in the world is going to be good for what's ahead.
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I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.
Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.
To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.
Overall, a good draw and a great game.
That's how I seen it too.
Liverpool pressed us really well and forced those mistakes but 2nd half we persevered with the passing out from the back and had some success through the middle.
Agree with you regarding Rogers too. He played really well after a very iffy first hour. Should have done much better with that shot 2nd half. He's got to at least make the keeper work from that position. He'll learn.
after 70 minutes they looked like they were pllaying for the draw.
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Think draw was the right result and no idea how Nunez missed that one, but Liverpool were hanging on for the last 10 minutes.
Our subs gave us an energy boost, whereas their subs all seemed to make them worse.
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There were a couple seats empty by us and two new chaps in front of us, one of whom spent the first 10 minutes of the second half showing his mate pictures of his holiday in where I presume was Thailand judging by the amount of women in the pictures.
Well spotted, it was Thailand.
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
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If we'd got a full strength side I think we'd have won that game. They got several slices of luck for both goals, but also missed a couple of sitters. We would have had more control of the game with Konsa, Torres & Kamara in the starting lineup. They are probably the best side in Europe at the moment and at their peak but we matched them, whilst doing our best to help them out. Our problem in the first half were from the fact that neither Tielmans or particularly McGinn are great at taking the ball out from defence.
A special shout out to Garcia, who other than the error had a fine game. It's a big step from Spain's second tier to playing Liverpool & he played with confidence. Unlike Cash, his second touch was almost always a forward one & he attempted to beat his man & cross the ball.
I've read Slot's comments regarding the fireworks, players returning from injury, the ground being a sell out all because everyone's favourite team are in town. I hadn't taken much notice of him until now, but what an arrogant classless gobshite he is. I really hope Man City turn them over at the weekend.
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Great game, draw probably fair, but it felt like there was only one winner for the last 15 and that was us. Thought Rashford played well and Ascensio knitted everything together in the first, but started to tire badly second half, all of our subs made a massive difference. Its a real decision for Unai who he starts in those attacking midfield positions on Saturday.
First half in particular we were determined to keep passing them to them, nerves maybe. Felt for Garcia, awful mistake, in otherwise top game from him.
Still cant really see why some posters keep insisting on writing off champions league qualification, we’re 4 points off 5th and have just gone toe to toe with the probable champions. Maybe I’m just delusional.
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If we'd got a full strength side I think we'd have won that game. They got several slices of luck for both goals, but also missed a couple of sitters. We would have had more control of the game with Konsa, Torres & Kamara in the starting lineup. They are probably the best side in Europe at the moment and at their peak but we matched them, whilst doing our best to help them out. Our problem in the first half were from the fact that neither Tielmans or particularly McGinn are great at taking the ball out from defence.
A special shout out to Garcia, who other than the error had a fine game. It's a big step from Spain's second tier to playing Liverpool & he played with confidence. Unlike Cash, his second touch was almost always a forward one & he attempted to beat his man & cross the ball.
I've read Slot's comments regarding the fireworks, players returning from injury, the ground being a sell out all because everyone's favourite team are in town. I hadn't taken much notice of him until now, but what an arrogant classless gobshite he is. I really hope Man City turn them over at the weekend.
Man City are only four or five points in front of us aren’t they?
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It wasn’t sold out either. The bald twat.
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Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?
Yeah probably - I still think a£13 admin charge on a resale is a pisstake though!
Season ticket resale is big profit for the Club and some return for us. I recently resold through club and got £26 back for a £40/match ticket. Club sold it for £68. You would have though £28 profit is enough and ST holders should get back what they paid?
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Really exciting match, Villa started very very nervous but grew into it.
Garcia a real up and down game, great at bombing forward and whipping in a delivery however very sloppy at the slow build up passing out at the back.
I thought Rogers and Asencio were not involed enough. Marco was subbed and Rogers suddenly sprang into life. I hope it's not going to be one of those ings-watkin situations where they dont work together.
As expected the ref gave liverpool everything, McAllister diving about and dishing it out. We missed two big chances in injury time but they had a rosenthial moment in the 2nd half too so I guess a far result.
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It wasn’t sold out either. The bald twat.
Less of that, please.
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It wasn’t sold out either. The bald twat.
Less of that, please.
Why can't we call Slot a twat?
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Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?
Yeah probably - I still think a£13 admin charge on a resale is a pisstake though!
Season ticket resale is big profit for the Club and some return for us. I recently resold through club and got £26 back for a £40/match ticket. Club sold it for £68. You would have though £28 profit is enough and ST holders should get back what they paid?
My just turned 18 year old daughter is working on Saturday so cant go, the most i can get for her under 18 ticket is £11 or something, and they will only sell once everywhere is sold out, e.g. they wouldn't sell for the west ham league game
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
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Those two chances for Rogers and Malen in added time! ???
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It wasn’t sold out either. The bald twat.
Less of that, please.
Why can't we call Slot a twat?
It is bald solidarity.
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
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I want the Chelsea game to be tomorrow and that's a measure of how well we did tonight, in the context of the season, how good they are and how the ref let them take throw ins and free kicks from wherever they wanted.
I've just heard the Slot interview on TS (interviewed by Tom Ross) during which the Liverpool manager said:
We created our only chance on 95 mins.
Questioned whether we have fireworks because we are playing Liverpool or are sold out for the same reason and that injured players declare themselves fit because they want to play Liverpool.
He is an absolutely massive wanker.
Which game was he watching? We scored twice, had two ruled out and had some other clear cut chances, we have fireworks for a lot of games (unfortunately) and we were selling out the ground regularly when we were midtable in the Championship.
What a clown!
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It wasn’t sold out either. The bald twat.
Less of that, please.
Why can't we call Slot a twat?
It is bald solidarity.
I'm bald but I don't see why I should show solidarity with that bald twat just because he's bald. It's political correctness gone mad!
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If we'd got a full strength side I think we'd have won that game. They got several slices of luck for both goals, but also missed a couple of sitters. We would have had more control of the game with Konsa, Torres & Kamara in the starting lineup. They are probably the best side in Europe at the moment and at their peak but we matched them, whilst doing our best to help them out. Our problem in the first half were from the fact that neither Tielmans or particularly McGinn are great at taking the ball out from defence.
A special shout out to Garcia, who other than the error had a fine game. It's a big step from Spain's second tier to playing Liverpool & he played with confidence. Unlike Cash, his second touch was almost always a forward one & he attempted to beat his man & cross the ball.
I've read Slot's comments regarding the fireworks, players returning from injury, the ground being a sell out all because everyone's favourite team are in town. I hadn't taken much notice of him until now, but what an arrogant classless gobshite he is. I really hope Man City turn them over at the weekend.
Man City are only four or five points in front of us aren’t they?
Yeah, want 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' to smash them.
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when is the Villa v Chelsea thread coming along ?
the match is at 530pm Saturday just over 48 hours away
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When someone starts one
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PWS started the thread last time we beat Chelsea, Kippax started it last time we beat them at Villa Park. Please can one of them do the honours, this time.
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when is the Villa v Chelsea thread coming along ?
the match is at 530pm Saturday just over 48 hours away
I'm angry about this too FV. I thought you'd put people straight on this unacceptable tardiness a couple if weeks ago. I'm not sure what else you can do ?
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I'd be in favour of a vicious lettering campaign. If that doesn't work, a petition on change.org might focus a few minds.
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I propose a march on Sherlock Street.
Footy won't know where that is, of course.
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with the info regards the american VAR official it may sway my view as had vote a win now it could be 2-2
I think 2-1 win
Regards pre match chelsea thread it would be nice this evening before too long and eating as i’m engaged with travelling tomorrow and then travelling to game on Saturday.
looking forward to it.
i’m in a bit of form on predictions as shown with the 2-1 and 2-2 prediction of Liverpool so I go with a 4-1 win against Chelsea and so that’s my vote
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
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with the info regards the american VAR official it may sway my view as had vote a win now it could be 2-2
I think 2-1 win
Regards pre match chelsea thread it would be nice this evening before too long and eating as i’m engaged with travelling tomorrow and then travelling to game on Saturday.
looking forward to it.
i’m in a bit of form on predictions as shown with the 2-1 and 2-2 prediction of Liverpool so I go with a 4-1 win against Chelsea and so that’s my vote
Nice one. Have a nice journey tomorrow.
See you never ever again soon.
And once more, am amazed people think this account isn't a wind up.
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Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
I'd be amazed if it were anything to do with Palestine.
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
A quick search on X suggests that one of the chefs at Villa died yesterday (after battling cancer).
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
Didn't think political support was allowed .
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
Didn't think political support was allowed .
Depends if you regard being opposed to Israel getting away with killing Palestinian babies, whilst the West looks on, as political I guess
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when is the Villa v Chelsea thread coming along ?
the match is at 530pm Saturday just over 48 hours away
I'm angry about this too FV. I thought you'd put people straight on this unacceptable tardiness a couple if weeks ago. I'm not sure what else you can do ?
I've done it. Panic over...
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
Didn't think political support was allowed .
Depends if you regard being opposed to Israel getting away with killing Palestinian babies, whilst the West looks on, as political I guess
That wasn't what I said I was referencing UEFA rules .
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Those brontebilly assessments remind me of a Two Ronnies sketch where a question is answered with the answer to the previous question.
Coming back to this thread for the first time today. But my first chuckle of the day
Applause
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
Didn't think political support was allowed .
There was an official Premier League armband day in one of the October games.
I phrased it bad. It was about victims in the conflict, not one side.
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/football/news/why-are-premier-league-players-wearing-black-armbands-weekend-israeli-palestinian-victims/396e6ff9e11c63153f67037c
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Those brontebilly assessments remind me of a Two Ronnies sketch where a question is answered with the answer to the previous question.
But they were TRYING to be funny.
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I saw a story on Reddit of a Villa fan lost a scarf near the Wisdom Academy that his mom had embroidered 53 years ago. Another fan from Edgbaston drove over to look for it the day after and found it.
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Just on another matter, does anybody know, why both teams were wearing black arm bands?
Apparently it was to commemorate two 50/50 decisions in one match that both went against Liverpool in 1987.
Of course why didn't I think of that.
Still interested in a proper answer, anyone?
Copilot reckons it was for Palestine. Not sure if it’s correct.
Didn't think political support was allowed .
There was an official Premier League armband day in one of the October games.
I phrased it bad. It was about victims in the conflict, not one side.
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/football/news/why-are-premier-league-players-wearing-black-armbands-weekend-israeli-palestinian-victims/396e6ff9e11c63153f67037c
That's from October 2023 though, in the immediate aftermath of the attack on Israel and their retaliation.
So probably not much to do with Wednesday.
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Whats a Wisdom Academy?
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A school. Most are "Academies" now
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Whats a Wisdom Academy?
https://www.thewisdomacademy.co.uk/
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Whats a Wisdom Academy?
It's where Blues fans are sent for re-education.
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this guy as it spot on
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I saw a story on Reddit of a Villa fan lost a scarf near the Wisdom Academy that his mom had embroidered 53 years ago. Another fan from Edgbaston drove over to look for it the day after and found it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplypkd2lo
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I saw a story on Reddit of a Villa fan lost a scarf near the Wisdom Academy that his mom had embroidered 53 years ago. Another fan from Edgbaston drove over to look for it the day after and found it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplypkd2lo
What a nice scarf.
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I saw a story on Reddit of a Villa fan lost a scarf near the Wisdom Academy that his mom had embroidered 53 years ago. Another fan from Edgbaston drove over to look for it the day after and found it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplypkd2lo
What a nice scarf.
And what a nice story. Hats off to the lad who made the effort to go look for that treasured scarf and actually found it. They're meeting today for a pint or two. Nice.
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I saw a story on Reddit of a Villa fan lost a scarf near the Wisdom Academy that his mom had embroidered 53 years ago. Another fan from Edgbaston drove over to look for it the day after and found it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplypkd2lo
What a nice scarf.
And what a nice story. Hats off to the lad who made the effort to go look for that treasured scarf and actually found it. They're meeting today for a pint or two. Nice.
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1898835594869870939