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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on February 09, 2025, 07:30:11 PM
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Brilliant display overall. Should have won by many more
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Scoreline far too close.
Most dominant 2-1 I've ever seen.
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All good.
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Who needs centre back?
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Ramsey quality.
Asensio and Rashford some quality touches.
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Second half of this season is going to be FUN.
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we are still in it yeaah
SJM MOM
those two coming on ..pure class
great performance
JJ finishes its at least 5-1
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Asensio looks juicy.
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Absolute festival of fantastic flowing football. Prime time TV,showing the nation,winning. Bring on Antiques Roadshow
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Dominant performance - we got some real talent in January. UTV
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Hard for a MOTM as several player did really well, but don't forget Kamara in any discussion though. His poise at the back helped settle us massively.
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At times we were superb, but we need to start being more ruthless. Yet another game where we have a nervy closing stages
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Tottenham hilariously poor but we played some good stuff at times.
Should have been out of sight long before their consolation goal.
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Maaaaate
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Asensio is a porn star! What a player!
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Never in doubt. That was a 2-1 battering.
Asensio oozes quality and composure. Looking forward to watching him over the next few months.
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Almost the exact opposite of the Spam match where with this one we were dominant apart from about 15-20 mins in the second half.
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A neutral would say it was a comfortable win, but it should have been loads more. McGinn MOTM for me. Asensio and Rashford looked promising.
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Also, two local lads with the goals. Feels like that's a rarity these days.
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How the fuck have we conceded 5 so far this season against those clowns.
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Assensio is like a greek god - fucking special
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we would look like Barcelona in highlights
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Customary goal conceded, but other than that I thought we were excellent. Much sharper and inventive than we have been of late. Rogers was superb, and Bogarde did really well. Also very impressed with Malen.
If that was a taster of what’s to come from Asensio and Rashford they’re going to be great.
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Malen did very well. Worked hard
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If that was a taster of what’s to come from Asensio and Rashford they’re going to be great.
you can see Rashford has the hunger.
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Aston Villa bringing sexy back in 2025.
JJ needs to work on his finishing…sooooo wasteful today and should have had a hatful.
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Mcginn imperious
Kamara just outstanding
Bogarde excellent
Rashford showed his quality
Asensio wow
Pity we did not keep a clean sheet.
Level to pull the trigger and be bye Crocodile Dundee you charlatan
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It's ridiculous how much room Ramsay had at times.
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Aston Villa bringing sexy back in 2025.
JJ needs to work on his finishing…sooooo wasteful today and should have had a hatful.
Agree but now he’s back to getting in them positions
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All 6 of the attacking players involved today looked lively and dangerous. Ramsey should've had a couple more but the movement and interplay was on another level.
Of course it was only spurs and they were all over the place at the back but the signs are that we're going to be fun to watch for the next few months.
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
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That should have been 6-2.
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How that ended 2-1 ill never know. Flattering scoreline for spurs. It should have been at least 4 or 5.
Mcginn excellent. Thought kamara and bogarde did well considering thats probably our plan J cb pairing.
Asensio. Wow wow wow!!! He looked exceptional
Very happy tonight. I hope we seriously take thia competition seriously
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not played that much those two neither .. blimey went they are up with match fitness , those champ league teams wont want us.
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Special mention for Malen. His run for the second goal wouldn't have been made by Duran and probably not with Watkins either.
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer mentioned it just about on 90minutes having talked about their problems all game.
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer did. In about the 89th minute.
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That should have been 6-2.
Everton all those years ago.
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We could have had about 8 today. I can't believe how good our football was at times. That second half spell with the olés -wow. So grateful we took it seriously and produced some of the best football of this season. Seriously, lets just bloody win this thing. UTFV.
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Someone should take Ange's belt and shoelaces off him.
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Yeah, he looks wrecked.
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Ange looks like he’s done for there. Body language totally defeated.
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
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Best performance in quite some time. Ignore the first half as Spurs didn't show up. The second half was a lot more of a contest and I liked a lot of what we did. Lively cameos from the two new boys, Ramsey and Rogers will get the headlines but best player on pitch by a country mile was SJM. We created so many chances with good football.
Martinez 7 - great save from Son and a lot more assured in general.
Garcia 7 - really solid game. Tidier on ball than Cash and lasted the game well. Looks much stronger than KN.
Konsa/Bogarde 7 - solid game from Bogarde though maybe should be getting tighter for their goal
Kamara 7 - positionally gets caught a bit at times but very good on the ball
Digne 7 - bullied Moore in first half, very solid game but lucky to get away with a fresh air clearance
McGinn 10 - won every duel, captain set the tempo from the off, very sharp on the ball. Bullied them
Tielemans 7 - sells himself too much at times but tidy as ever on the ball
Bailey 7 - got some shots off today, forced turnovers and worked hard. Nice feet for the goal
Ramsey 8 - fortunate goal but bullied Porro throughout. Still touch a bit heavy at times and missed two good chances
Rogers 8 - outstanding first half, easy street really. Bit quieter in second but nice passes with Asensio. Strong as a bull once turned on the ball.
Malen 7 - lively first half, quieter after break but did well for the goal
Asensio and Rashford had lively cameos. Asensio's first touch reminiscent of Grealish here. Good energy from Rashford. Great day for Emery, starting selection rewarded him and subs went well.
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Shame about Konsa.
A lot of positives to take away though
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That should have been 16-2.
FTFY
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Rogers didn't do enough to get a score Bronte?
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That should have been 6-2.
Everton all those years ago.
Asensio is nearly as good looking as Ormondroyd too
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer mentioned it just about on 90minutes having talked about their problems all game.
He did but boy was Shearer desperate for Spurs to score
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Fucking hell, post match BBC is all spuds!!
Who won the bloody match!
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Asensio and Rashford definitely would have scored more than we did if they'd played the first half.
Seemed like a lack of composure from several players once they got near the goal. Don't know if they were all just overexcited, or if they're all trying to stake their claim in the starting 11. A bit more clinical and we'd have genuinely battered them.
A good result none the less, and as good as Malen looked, and the two subs, it's worth saying Garcia looked really good at RB, defensively and going forward.
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I was totally wrong about the team today. We played some great stuff and should have mullered them. Looking at the remaining teams....... I'm a believer.
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oh Garcia well done son .. great game
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Apparently Villa were playing, not that the post match commentary reference it.
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Fucking hell, post match BBC is all spuds!!
Who won the bloody match!
I know right, they’re still banging on about them!!!
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Fantastic performance. McGinn and Rogers were awesome but a special mention for our patched up defence even though we conceded our usual goal. Kamara looked very composed, Digne was very good and Garcia also was very solid.
Rashford looked really up for it and Asensio - wow, he looks genuinely world class.
Shame the BBC are obsessed with spuds but fuck 'em.
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They will leave 2mins for Unai’s post match interview
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Fucking hell, post match BBC is all spuds!!
Who won the bloody match!
I know right, they’re still banging on about them!!!
It’s an absolute joke.
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They will leave 2mins for Unai’s post match interview
I love him, but he doesn't usually have that much to say.
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They just cut him off, twats!
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oh Garcia well done son .. great game
He was ace, I could get used to him playing more. What a good player he is.
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Massive Tottingham inquest again on the Beeb.
They're just shit.
When will you learn.
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That could, and should, have been a hammering. The chances we’ve missed were pretty good. JJ missed a couple of glorious chances (or to give the keeper credit, they were saved).
The second one, after we passed around their press on our own box and rashford played a lovely first time flick could have been goal of the season if JJ finishes it.
Some lovely touches from Asensio, sort of reminded me of Carbone in the early days of his time with us.
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What an unbelievable squad we have now. Quality players in every position. If we can get a few back from injury I genuinely think this squad can qualify for CL again win the FA Cup and go far in Europe. We should fear no-one.
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We played very well. The only frustrations were not keeping a clean sheet yet again and not scoring a hatful.
Ramsey played well apart from a sequence of very poor finishing from several very good opportunities.
McGinn was excellent today.
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Joe Hart seems to love us!
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Joe Hart seems to love us!
He spoke v eloquently about the whole match tbf.
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oh Garcia well done son .. great game
He did very well, in fact I thought our whole defence looked better than it has done in months.
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Fabulous performance, when we play like that it’s bloody exciting to watch. Many great performances out there but McGinn and Kamara were outstanding. All the new players were good too which makes for a great few months
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Delighted with Garcia at RB. We looked v sexy indeed with the second-half subs. We just need those centre backs to come back in. I can see us finishing the season a'la 22-23 now.
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That was fun, new boys all looked good. Get some defenders back and the second half of the season should be a good craic.
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Increasingly impressed by Lamare Bogarde. Good pace and awareness, he covered behind Kamara on a couple of occasions to off set the only weakness of Bouba's game.
There were a few lovely moments going forward, especially with the changes in the second half, I don't see Bailey getting many more starts this season.
Yes, it is a shame we didn't manage a clean sheet but we played about an hour without a recognised CB.
Another full week of preparation for what should be a, relatively, simple weekend game. UTV
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Malens workratw today was excellent. As good as duran was his work rate was never at that level. Rwalky impressed with malen.
Also a shout out for bogarde. He is a big talent.
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On Spurs side, Son looks past it now and he just can't really lead the line anymore.
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Thought Bergvall would have to take somebody's leg off in order to get booked.
And how pleasant was it that the odious little twat Porro coughed up the ball for Rogers to score our second?
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Thought Bergvall would have to take somebody's leg off in order to get booked.
And how pleasant was it that the odious little twat Porro coughed up the ball for Rogers to score our second?
You’re a fan of Porro then? 🤣
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Good win, thought we let them back in the game, how anybody can make this Spurs side look good takes some doing, thought Asensio looked immense and Rashford and Asensio, my guess is the rest of the season is going to be fun, thought the after game commentary was nothing short of a joke,
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Should’ve been 5 or 6 but we are through.
McGinn superb, what a leader that man is. Garcia is very promising and Digne another top notch performance.
That referee is a joke yet again. He’s that bad people just stand there laughing at him.
Pity about Konsa.
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Sublime, just sublime. And tonnes still left in the locker.
Exciting times ahead. Well done lads.
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Massive Tottingham inquest again on the Beeb.
They're just shit.
When will you learn.
Son looks finished. Bentacur, Porro, Bissouma all suspect enough characters when the going gets tough. Kulusevski was much better on wing I thought, he's a good player out there.
I thought Spence despite being out of position tried hard. Conte used treat him as a joke but he was very good for Forest. A lot more heart than Porro anyway.
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Bogarde impressed me too. Versatile.
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Not sure Son looks finished, he looks really short of confidence.
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Bogarde impressed me too. Versatile.
Cultured.
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i thought Bailey put a shift in and a good performance up against spence , who i think is turning into a quality player
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Malens workratw today was excellent. As good as duran was his work rate was never at that level. Rwalky impressed with malen.
Also a shout out for bogarde. He is a big talent.
I echo these sentiments. Malen looked like he can do the Watkins role without disrupting the cohesion in the team. Bogarde just looks like a reliable understudy in a number of positions. Could grow to be a a vital squad player.
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Missing today:
Cash
Mings
Torres
Barkley
Onana
Watkins
And then Konsa joined them in the first half.
Oh, and we also had Disasi - cup tied.
Don't give me that injury bollocks from Spurs fans.
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So although we might have Disasi starting against Ipswich, he will be next to Kamara again?
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Massive Tottingham inquest again on the Beeb.
They're just shit.
When will you learn.
I thought Spence despite being out of position tried hard. Conte used treat him as a joke but he was very good for Forest. A lot more heart than Porro anyway.
By all accounts he’s been their best player in the last 3/4 games.
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So although we might have Disasi starting against Ipswich, he will be next to Kamara again?
Unless Ty is close?
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Who needs centre back?
A team that keeps a clean sheet now and then.
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer mentioned it just about on 90minutes having talked about their problems all game.
Just catching up now but I think we had 7 out tonight all of whom may well have started!
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Asensio is a porn star! What a player!
I thought that was Tony Moon.
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I've been saying I wouldn't have McGinn in our best XI but I thought he was incredible today.
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If that was a taster of what’s to come from Asensio and Rashford they’re going to be great.
you can see Rashford has the hunger.
Well reports this week said he has the third-lowest body fat in the squad so he must be starving. Maybe McGinn could pass the meatballs.
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JJ's my fave but if Ollie had missed all those chances tonight, he'd have been hounded off of Heroes and Villains foreva.
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Thought Bergvall would have to take somebody's leg off in order to get booked.
And how pleasant was it that the odious little twat Porro coughed up the ball for Rogers to score our second?
You’re a fan of Porro then? 🤣
What gave me away?
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
Tut! We don't all live in Hinckley with east Astonian access.
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JJ's my fave but if Ollie had missed all those chances tonight, he'd have been hounded off of Heroes and Villains foreva.
What was worse, for me, was a couple of them could have been goals for someone else if he'd passed it. If you're going to take the shot yourself, you need to score. He wasn't the only one guilty of that tonight.
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JJ's my fave but if Ollie had missed all those chances tonight, he'd have been hounded off of Heroes and Villains foreva.
Yeah, he has to square that one in particular.
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I've been saying I wouldn't have McGinn in our best XI but I thought he was incredible today.
Everytime you think we might have outgrown him, his arse-power just grows more to match us.
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This is why I can’t stand this ridiculous, overrated club. In defeat to a club at least as big as them, the headline is about them. Who gives a fuck about ‘who they are.’ Tossers.
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I've been saying I wouldn't have McGinn in our best XI but I thought he was incredible today.
Everytime you think we might have outgrown him, his arse-power just grows more to match us.
New X-Men ready for the MCU refresh.
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I'm fine with it as the pressure will just get to them even more. Maybe they lost on purpose to have a reverse effect then when they score four past us.
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That was fun, new boys all looked good. Get some defenders back and the second half of the season should be a good craic.
*craic isn't countable
But I get what you mean. This is gonna be a Villa Spring as good as 2023 and 1998, I can feel it.
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Massive Tottingham inquest again on the Beeb.
They're just shit.
When will you learn.
I thought Spence despite being out of position tried hard. Conte used treat him as a joke but he was very good for Forest. A lot more heart than Porro anyway.
By all accounts he’s been their best player in the last 3/4 games.
I’d agree with that, I seem to have watched them a fair bit lately for some reason.
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Not sure Son looks finished, he looks really short of confidence.
Agreed. He still has the technique and balance. Would love him at Villa if they actually made him available (and Asensio goes back).
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Something that is going to annoy me for probably the next 15 years, Mikey Moore's parents have actually named him Mikey.
They didn't call him Michael, and as a precocious 17 year old he's chosen a five year old's name, which would be bad enough. But this?
Twats.
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Not just Mikey. The middle names are Steven Danny.
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer mentioned it just about on 90minutes having talked about their problems all game.
Just catching up now but I think we had 7 out tonight all of whom may well have started!
Seven out but you don't start Pau and Mings together (moreso with Konsa playing) so I'd say 6 (athough it became 7 again after Konsa got injured!) of whom 3 (Cash/Pau/Watkins) are probably the bona fide starters with a question mark over Onana.
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JJ's my fave but if Ollie had missed all those chances tonight, he'd have been hounded off of Heroes and Villains foreva.
True. When interviewed after the match, JJ said his goal came from his weak side and he didn't feel confident when hitting it.
All his chances come from that side!!
Played well though.
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
Tut! We don't all live in Hinckley with east Astonian access.
Tin Hat?
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Not sure Son looks finished, he looks really short of confidence.
Agreed. For his chance that he hit right at Emi he showed great pace. He's still got some left in the tank. Just his confidence has been hit by the shitshow that is that club.
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
Tut! We don't all live in Hinckley with east Astonian access.
the neutrels :)
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JJ has to take these one on one chances, could have been all over early. Very happy with the new additions. Commentators going on about Spurs injuries never mentioned ours.
Shearer mentioned it just about on 90minutes having talked about their problems all game.
Just catching up now but I think we had 7 out tonight all of whom may well have started!
Seven out but you don't start Pau and Mings together (moreso with Konsa playing) so I'd say 6 (athough it became 7 again after Konsa got injured!) of whom 3 (Cash/Pau/Watkins) are probably the bona fide starters with a question mark over Onana.
But if Pau out you replace him with Mings? So to me they were all starters we were missing and driving home from the ground none of the radio coverage about Spurs mentioned this
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I really wish I was a betting man as I'm broke and Villa not to keep a clean-sheet must have been decent odds even at the 80th minute mark. Don't think any of us expected Spurs to stay nil even when we were still having most of the play.
Most of our wins this season have been by one or two goal margins. I really hope we hand out some mullerings between now and May as we have it in us from an attacking sense. That back door is permanently on the latch though.
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Last 16:
Aston Villa
Millwall
Man Utd
Man City
Preston
Ipswich
Bournemouth
Burnley
Cardiff
Fulham
Newcastle
Brighton
Plymouth
Wolves
Palace
Forest
I’ve put the last two in to jinx them.
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
Tut! We don't all live in Hinckley with east Astonian access.
Tin Hat?
weavers
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Home game v one of the Manchester's hopefully
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Great game, entertaining for the neutral I thought.
Most impressed with Bogarde, Garcia and SJM. The rest played like you’d expect the very good players they are should play.
I have some sympathy with Ange.
Rangers lol.
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Home game v one of the Manchester's hopefully
Would rather Preston or Plymouth at home, personally!
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Home game v one of the Manchester's hopefully
Plymouth (h) for me please. Let the Mancs play each other or Jaudi Arabia.
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Plymouth please (H)
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In fact think the Villa fans would love a weekend in Plymouth and we are good enough to do them there .
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In fact think the Villa fans would love a weekend in Plymouth and we are good enough to do them there .
Their record home attendance (43,587) was against us in 1936.
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I really wish I was a betting man as I'm broke and Villa not to keep a clean-sheet must have been decent odds even at the 80th minute mark. Don't think any of us expected Spurs to stay nil even when we were still having most of the play.
Most of our wins this season have been by one or two goal margins. I really hope we hand out some mullerings between now and May as we have it in us from an attacking sense. That back door is permanently on the latch though.
Having two centre backs who are comfortable on the ball was key to playing through an admittedly half hearted Spurs press. Bogarde was caught for the goal but was tidy in possession.
Delap bullied our defence in Ipswich so will present a much different challenge next day out.
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This is why I can’t stand this ridiculous, overrated club. In defeat to a club at least as big as them, the headline is about them. Who gives a fuck about ‘who they are.’ Tossers.
I think it's more that neutrals are interested in whether their manager gets the sack than any perceived anti-Villa bias. I can't be arsed to check, but I bet when we got twatted by Fulham in 2022, the headlines were all about Gerrard, not Fulham (before he did eventually get sacked an hour or so later, that is).
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players still to come back , our leading goalscorer missing , those two to get match fitness
yes the second half will be great
p lop , chelsea , spurs and arse out , it could be :)
And Asensio .. you dont play for real madrid for ten years and be average , I just knew he would be class , like our new Merson and great to see Rshford working hard .
Hope the armchair lot enjoyed us.
Tut! We don't all live in Hinckley with east Astonian access.
Tin Hat?
weavers
The place not the pub. I grew up in Codder!
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If like a winnable away tie, with enough ticket allocation to have a chance of going.
Man Utd are shit and Man City aren’t what they were, but want to avoid them ideally. Also would like to avoid Forest and Bournemouth at the moment.
Preston, Plymouth, Cardiff away perhaps, or if not any of them three at home
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I'm scarred from a 2-0 loss away at Preston in the Championship. Was an absolutely miserable day and we were shit. Like really, really shit. I'd like to exorcise those demons.
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I thought we looked terrific going forward. Shame we couldn't keep a clean sheet again mind but delighted through.
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Really entertaining game , at times we played some fantastic stuff , we are going to be a real handful once we get the defence back . The week off did them all good. They all did really well but my MOTM was McGinn he was superb today .
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Excellent. It's beginning to look like the season I expected. Onwards and upwards!
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In fact think the Villa fans would love a weekend in Plymouth and we are good enough to do them there .
Their record home attendance (43,587) was against us in 1936.
Who won BV? was it a good game ?
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Massive Tottingham inquest again on the Beeb.
They're just shit.
When will you learn.
I thought Spence despite being out of position tried hard. Conte used treat him as a joke but he was very good for Forest. A lot more heart than Porro anyway.
By all accounts he’s been their best player in the last 3/4 games.
Yep. I think he looks decent. A unit and reasonably good with the ball.
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Enjoyed this take:
...before Mathys Tel showed he can absolutely be the man to fill Richarlison’s shoes by scoring a flattering late consolation goal in a deeply damaging defeat
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This is perhaps more damaging even than the midweek non-trier at Liverpool. There is less excuse for being swatted aside by Villa. They are for one obvious thing not as good as Liverpool, and for another are themselves bedevilled by most of the things generally used as mitigation for Ange’s Spurs being awful.
They lost Ezri Konsa to injury here and had no senior centre-back available. While Spurs simply shrug and decide to just not bother with defending altogether in that situation, Villa chose to make the best they could of it. A bold strategy.
Villa have also had a workload comparable to Spurs, and have struggled with it. But their league season remains on an even keel and their cup ambitions intact.
Spurs have only excuses, recriminations, a relegation battle and Ryan Mason’s toughest caretaker spell yet
Edited as the paragraphs after were decent too, so I've added them.
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I like that, where's it from?
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Football365
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Just got back and navigated the rain on the M40.
I had a bad feeling about his match before K.O. their record against us at VP and then with our key players out. Then I saw how shit they were, so much room in midfield. We should have been out of sight.
Defence did well considering who we had available and Kansa going off. Kamara is just class. MotM for me, McGinn, superb.
We’ll have some squad when all fit.
Oh, and Bailey. Had enough of him, not good enough.
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Bailey was much better today.
Was even getting stuck into tackles first half.
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From a personal perspective I need to lighten the fuck up when watching us. I don't think watching on TV, compared to in person, helps but that and Celtic I spent most of the time convinced our profligacy was going to cost us instead of enjoying us ripping the opposition apart time and time again.
Really good performance apart from a wobbly 10 to 15 at the start of the second half. Here's to hoping we have another four home games in a row after the draw and here's to winning them all.
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Wow this could be a fun few months if things click and we get some defenders back. All the new signings have showed something already. Asensio - crikey, talk about X factor. Garcia could be this years Rogers. Malen looks combative and versatile. Rashford looks determined for sure and his ability is without question.
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If we can work on our finishing we will be blowing teams away , Celtic should have been 7 or 8, tonight could easily have been 5 or 6.
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We should have scored enough goals to have seen Ange get the sack tomorrow. Great to see 30 mins of quality from Rashford and Asensio. The next few months could be something special.
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This move was brilliant and deserved a goal. We did this quite a lot last season and it was great seeing it move so fluidly today.
https://x.com/jayvtid/status/1888692671964737848?s=46&t=XDFpLxLCLXUUdLEoZEcA2Q
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This move was brilliant and deserved a goal. We did this quite a lot last season and it was great seeing it move so fluidly today.
https://x.com/jayvtid/status/1888692671964737848?s=46&t=XDFpLxLCLXUUdLEoZEcA2Q
Probably needed squaring
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Bailey was much better today.
Was even getting stuck into tackles first half.
i counted 3. 💪💪💪
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Bailey was much better today.
Was even getting stuck into tackles first half.
i counted 3. 💪💪💪
Yeah, I thought he was fine today.
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This move was brilliant and deserved a goal. We did this quite a lot last season and it was great seeing it move so fluidly today.
https://x.com/jayvtid/status/1888692671964737848?s=46&t=XDFpLxLCLXUUdLEoZEcA2Q
Every time I see Ramsey shoot I die a little. What a fabulous goal that would have been for Asensio, in front of the Holte too.
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Bailey was much better today.
Was even getting stuck into tackles first half.
i counted 3. 💪💪💪
Yeah, I thought he was fine today.
Blimey. He made tackles, that was it. He offered little going fwd, so far off it.
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McGinn was playing on a different level to every single player on the pitch today.
Bouba was close second.
Rogers is an absolute joy to watch and Digne is pushing Staunton as the best left back in my time.
And Asencio. Well, what a 25 mins. This guy could be very, very special for us.
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This move was brilliant and deserved a goal. We did this quite a lot last season and it was great seeing it move so fluidly today.
https://x.com/jayvtid/status/1888692671964737848?s=46&t=XDFpLxLCLXUUdLEoZEcA2Q
Probably needed squaring
Definitely, especially as he had missed at least two at similar angles before then. Cut it across and that goal gets shown for the rest of the season.
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Is there a highlights/MOTD-type show on tonight?
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Bailey was much better today.
Was even getting stuck into tackles first half.
i counted 3. 💪💪💪
Yeah, I thought he was fine today.
Blimey. He made tackles, that was it. He offered little going fwd, so far off it.
He pulled out some good saves from Kinsky first half, including the one Ramsey smashed into the post on the follow-up, and did really well with Malen for the second goal. Yes some decent attacks also died at his feet, but he was certainly closer to last season Bailey rather then this one.
Maybe re-watch the highlights as you might have forgotten.
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Is there a highlights/MOTD-type show on tonight?
Doesn't seem to be. I suspect as they had the last match on live, they combined them together. However you can always scroll through iPlayer and watch the full 90 mins still.
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Was at the game earlier and it was another great Villa Park occasion really. Started really sharply and wete the better team throughout, but went up to a completely different level for 15-20 minutes when Rashford and Asensio came on before conceding our customary late goal. Should have been well out of sight by then though.
Thought Garcia looked solid at RB and Bogarde did well when he came on. Digne had a good game and I thought Tielemans and McGinn in particular were really good in central midfield.
Think the next few months could be fun!!
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We couldn't ......... could we?
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Cracking atmosphere for the new lads debuts. They'll have loved it.
For all the fuss about Spurs injuries they have a bloody bug squad. They've maybe got a team of players out but they can still field a bunch of international standard with more on the bench.
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Cracking atmosphere for the new lads debuts. They'll have loved it.
For all the fuss about Spurs injuries they have a bloody bug squad. They've maybe got a team of players out but they can still field a bunch of international standard with more on the bench.
Slight typo there mate, you wrote "bug" but I think you meant "full of wankers"
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Is there a highlights/MOTD-type show on tonight?
Doesn't seem to be. I suspect as they had the last match on live, they combined them together. However you can always scroll through iPlayer and watch the full 90 mins still.
Cheers, I’ll watch it again.
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Not working, are you? ;)
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Today felt a big special.
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It did, but also we'd have slaughtered Ollie if he missed half those chances, and, Spurs were shite.
However, it felt like we have another gear to go up once everyone clicks 100%, and most importantly we have options in attack.
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Spurs looked like a lower league side, they were awful. Which was nice.
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Spurs looked like a lower league side, they were awful. Which was nice.
Son is woefully out of form and Kulachesky seems to have dipped . Didn’t think much of mikey ( your an adult )moore
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We played some really sexy football at times and could have won this 5-1. The new players have given the place a buzz and we look like we are going to be a real handful when the injuries clear up. Garcia was good today and looks a good purchase. Cracking game, wish we were more ruthless at times but won at a canter. Tel looked good for them. Rogers is a class player. SJM was back to his best. Very pleasing performance given the injuries, which were barely mentioned in comparison to Tottenham’s issues.
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The commentators take me back to Kenneth Wolsternholme, he was a Bolton supporter but every time we played Spurs you would have thought there was only one team playing. Showing my age now.
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Football365
Ta.
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Ascensio…..not seen shit like that for…..
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Spurs looked like a lower league side, they were awful. Which was nice.
Son is woefully out of form and Kulachesky seems to have dipped . Didn’t think much of mikey ( your an adult )moore
The bastard offspring of Paul Konchesky and Dejan Kulusevski...they're both quite ugly, so he'd struggle on "Take Me Out" unlike our Marco.
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Really enjoyed watching us play today and then when Rashford and Asensio came on it was so good to watch, apart from the goal at the end, that is!
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Really enjoyed watching us play today and then when Rashford and Asensio came on it was so good to watch, apart from the goal at the end, that is!
Their goal at the end is typical Villa. Should have been out of sight but for poor finishing first half. We need to develop a killer streak, no sympathy, destroy when we smell blood attitude. Being in the next round is all that matters and the new players will make a difference in forthcoming games. Ascensio was scintillating, what an exciting player.
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Should have been out of sight very early on after an excellent first half. Malen in particular was very good in the first 45.
Game was open generally and more so with Spurs chasing a goal. Good time to bring on Asensio and Rashford with plenty of space to play in. Asensio had some glorious touches and was involved in two scintillating attacks which were a joy to see. Rashford looked hungry and wanted the ball as often as possible which I really liked.
Kamara; exceptional as always. Bailey, did some good defensive work but offensively was poor again. Garcia looks like he’s already come on a treat and was very good.
But the stand out was McGinn. A fantastic recital of all his best skills and drive to control the game. Truly exceptional today.
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Not working, are you? ;)
😂 No. At work I’ll be listening to all the reaction podcasts.
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Spurs looked like a lower league side, they were awful. Which was nice.
Son is woefully out of form and Kulachesky seems to have dipped . Didn’t think much of mikey ( your an adult )moore
You wouldn’t have said that to former Gambino captain Mikey ‘Scars’ DiLeanardo’s face before he ratted.
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We seem to suffer too easily with these whipped in balls like the goal yesterday. Either we close them down so they can’t or we anticipate them better.
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Should have been out of sight very early on after an excellent first half. Malen in particular was very good in the first 45.
Game was open generally and more so with Spurs chasing a goal. Good time to bring on Asensio and Rashford with plenty of space to play in. Asensio had some glorious touches and was involved in two scintillating attacks which were a joy to see. Rashford looked hungry and wanted the ball as often as possible which I really liked.
Kamara; exceptional as always. Bailey, did some good defensive work but offensively was poor again. Garcia looks like he’s already come on a treat and was very good.
But the stand out was McGinn. A fantastic recital of all his best skills and drive to control the game. Truly exceptional today.
Excellent summary Leon. This is the game I watched.
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Just watched the highlights. JJ really needs to practice his one-on-ones with the goalie. So many opportunities missed. Even his goal wasn’t ideal. That said he was overall excellent.
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Asensio debut reminds me of Sasa Curcic, when he made his debut against Arsenal??? - Curcic was sublime, and I honestly thought that we had signed a world beater (Unfortunately that was the best of his time at Villa)
Asensio, looked absolutely class, but McGinn MOTM.
Should have won more convincingly, hopefully we can get a good home draw in the next round - I am sure that Man Utd will be at home to Plymouth or Cardiff!!
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Emery gets it now, his comments and team selection show that.
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John McGinn in the middle of the park was awesome, maybe with all the attacking midfielders coming in, and with Onana made of glass, a deeper more combatative role might be where he sees more minutes.
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The way our front players were all buzzing around after the subs it's going to be hard for opponents to work out what we're doing!
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And some of that play had me giggling last night. The commitment and drive in the team was a joy. The ball being moved around at pace, chances, tackles.. everything you'd want (apart from more goals).
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We looked very good at times last night - a joy to watch. Get them down to Bodymoor and practice getting the ball higher than 2' off the ground and over the keeper and we win a lot more matches
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Really enjoyed that game, should have been out of sight but this is the Villa.
As others have said that was McGinn v Fulham vibes, where he just bullied their midfield, and ran the show.
It’s going to be fun watching Asensio for the next few months.
For the first time in a while I was in the Holte Upper, is it always that cold and windy ? It was like someone had left all the windows open.
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What got me was the crowd for that little move where Asencio and Rogers combined with the back heel, the through flick, return and shot - just totally tuned in to every pass and loving everything we were doing. Brilliant moment. Villa Park at its best.
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Also how bad were Tottenham, the way they played was bonkers.
If that was a kids team you’d say they were a bit naive, there’s was one point when their centre half was bombing on down the right wing, why the other one was pushed up, there were 2 strikers pressing the same Villa man, they were a shambles.
They all pressed from the first whistle but didn’t leave any midfielders back, so once you played through them, you were onto their back 4.
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I think they had some injuries......
BUT it is Ange's decision to play Archie Gray as a CB on the left side for the majority of their bad run. He had options to have Danso and Davies last night but decided not to.
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I think they had some injuries......
BUT it is Ange's decision to play Archie Gray as a CB on the left side for the majority of their bad run. He had options to have Danso and Davies last night but decided not to.
It was the same shit when we beat them down in there last season, moaning about having to play two full backs at centre half and they had Eric Dier on the bench.
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I think they had some injuries......
BUT it is Ange's decision to play Archie Gray as a CB on the left side for the majority of their bad run. He had options to have Danso and Davies last night but decided not to.
And playing a RB at LB, while Davies and Reguilon were on the bench.
Two very lightweight CMs were constantly outnumbered in the first half, we really should have done a right number on them with the space Rogers and Ramsey got. If we did Big Ange would have got his P45 last night.
It was great to finally beat them at Villa Park.
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Great performance really enjoyed it.
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Watching us beat the press was interesting. Dinge has said they've been working on things in the week and it showed. We've been getting caught playing it out from the back- particularly on the left side - but despite the press there were more passing options last night, the midfielders came in closer to provide options and we moved it quicker. Good to see.
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I think they had some injuries......
BUT it is Ange's decision to play Archie Gray as a CB on the left side for the majority of their bad run. He had options to have Danso and Davies last night but decided not to.
And playing a RB at LB, while Davies and Reguilon were on the bench.
And then Pedro Porro - in the side to attack, so he stays ridiculously high up the pitch, giving Ramey half of Villa Park to play in, but also I don't remember a single attacking thing that he did either.
It takes quite some skill to set up a team in such a way that it manages to look short of players in defence, midfield AND attack all at the same time.
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That Porro is a snidey little shit. Got done with a nice bit of skill and chased back just to foul. And he's a whiner too.
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That Porro is a snidey little shit. Got done with a nice bit of skill and chased back just to foul. And he's a whiner too.
Yeah, he took on the Romero role of snidey twat well, even looking like a clumsy donkey with it.
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Some great football was witnessed tonight and I can wait to watch them again. That little link up with Asensio and Rogers was sublime. The back heel was just in font of me and there was an audible gasp from the crowd. If only Rogers had put that in the back of the net we'd be talking about that goal for years to come. Ipswich up next. Bring our A game and we should bag the 3 points. We need to improve our GD which currently stands at -3 . It's a minor miracle that we're still in touching distance of top four.
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That Porro is a snidey little shit. Got done with a nice bit of skill and chased back just to foul. And he's a whiner too.
That Bergval is also a right dirty c***. Constant fouling then had the cheek to look hard done by when he finally got yellow carded.
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Some great football was witnessed tonight and I can wait to watch them again. That little link up with Asensio and Rogers was sublime. The back heel was just in font of me and there was an audible gasp from the crowd. If only Rogers had put that in the back of the net we'd be talking about that goal for years to come. Ipswich up next. Bring our A game and we should bag the 3 points. We need to improve our GD which currently stands at -3 . It's a minor miracle that we're still in touching distance of top four.
There was the other move after where Ramsey was clean through that was sensational, we'd popped it around in our own box and then cut through them like a ribbon, it deserved a much better finish from a player that's more than capable of it.
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Yep, all points to an unhappy set of substandard players...
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Bergvall should have been yellowed for when he hitched a ride on Malen. But the ref finally booked him for persistent fouling on a very innocuous challenge, so if he thought it was just for that I can see why the look. Not sure if the ref did the usual point around the pitch explanation or not.
Just a shame the ref at Wolves decided that persistent fouling was not a thing as I think 5 of the first 6 was by the same player.
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What a beautiful morning ☀️☀️☀️
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That Porro is a snidey little shit. Got done with a nice bit of skill and chased back just to foul. And he's a whiner too.
Yeah, he wasn't as amused as I was when he got nutmegged by Rashford.
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I suppose I shouldn't moan really, I'd have done exactly the same as him if that happened to me in the game.
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Some player mind, Bergval, or rather, will be.
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Cash, Konsa, Mings, Torres, Onana, Watkins, 'take those out of any side and you are going to struggle.' Sorry I thought I was Ange for a second.
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Cash, Konsa, Mings, Torres, Onana, Watkins, 'take those out of any side and you are going to struggle.' Sorry I thought I was Ange for a second.
Barkley was unavailable too.
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Just watched highlights and the Porroshow of a tackle on Rashford - HOW has the ref waived that on? He was right there watching it. The most obvious foul. Whether it was inside teh penalty area I don't know, but fuck me that was a bad call from the ref.
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I follow Celtic so liked AP and his style of football, was disappointed that he went there of course, but still retained my respect.
After his interview yesterday he can go fuck himself. Reaching onto the box of excuses with a dour, negative and frankly pathetic response to defeat. I watched half of their game at Anfield and alongside yesterday the only player who looked at all enthused or up for it was Spence.
Having said that I hope Big Whinge stays there a long, long time.
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I'm not genuinely not one to get chippy or paranoid about coverage. Pundits are in the entertainment business and they'll give the viewers want they want, and that's predominately the usual franchises.
But the BBCs coverage was incredibly Spurscentric. We could've had Tom Hanks through on goal and Prince William (waves) in the centre of defence, and they still would have been warbling on about the troubled times in N17.
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Not stating they would have changed much, but after a run of bad results and speculation for several weeks about his job, it was no surprise most of the points were on Spurs. If we had beaten them off the back of them being decent, I don't think the story would be as much on them. However the post match space they had saved for extra time did have a fair bit of Villa towards the end of it once they had exhausted all Spurs angles and hadn't heard he had been sacked yet.
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I'm not genuinely not one to get chippy or paranoid about coverage. Pundits are in the entertainment business and they'll give the viewers want they want, and that's predominately the usual franchises.
But the BBCs coverage was incredibly Spurscentric. We could've had Tom Hanks through on goal and Prince William (waves) in the centre of defence, and they still would have been warbling on about the troubled times in N17.
I agree. It was Spurs-TV from minute one. I listened to the Rest if Football podcast this morning and it was more of the same. They were talking about how open the FA Cup is this year, saying that one of the 'other clubs' (like Bright or Newcastle) could win it.
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I'm not genuinely not one to get chippy or paranoid about coverage. Pundits are in the entertainment business and they'll give the viewers want they want, and that's predominately the usual franchises.
But the BBCs coverage was incredibly Spurscentric. We could've had Tom Hanks through on goal and Prince William (waves) in the centre of defence, and they still would have been warbling on about the troubled times in N17.
I agree. It was Spurs-TV from minute one. I listened to the Rest if Football podcast this morning and it was more of the same. They were talking about how open the FA Cup is this year, saying that one of the 'other clubs' (like Bright or Newcastle) could win it.
I watched on another channel channel as the wife had the TV on, and they were all over Spurs. Commentators couldn't wait for Spurs to score. It was puke inducing.
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I'm not genuinely not one to get chippy or paranoid about coverage. Pundits are in the entertainment business and they'll give the viewers want they want, and that's predominately the usual franchises.
But the BBCs coverage was incredibly Spurscentric. We could've had Tom Hanks through on goal and Prince William (waves) in the centre of defence, and they still would have been warbling on about the troubled times in N17.
The two big "stories" around the game though were how bad Spurs currently are and Villa signing Rashford. The latter got a fair amount of discussion too, particularly at the end once they had a Rashford performance to discuss.
Someone on (I think) the match thread compared it to us getting walloped by Fulham which saw Gerrard got sacked - the story of that game wasn't Fulham putting in a perfectly solid performance, it was Villa being a car-crash and yesterday was similar.
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Although it is hard to see if the headlines were similar as within 20 mins they were Gerrard had been sacked.
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Fooking freezing inside the Holte last night, wasnt even that windy out, but there somehow contrived to be a minus 10 gale blowing into the lower holte.
The football kept us going. I was nervous at half time as we should of been 4-0 up and I felt like the football Gods were rubbing their hands together. But apart from about 10 mins at the start of the 2nd half when they huffed and puffed, we just out classed them. We really should of scored another 2 or 3 in the second half.
Man it was total shexy futbol from Asensio, hope it keeps that flirting up!!
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I'm not genuinely not one to get chippy or paranoid about coverage. Pundits are in the entertainment business and they'll give the viewers want they want, and that's predominately the usual franchises.
But the BBCs coverage was incredibly Spurscentric. We could've had Tom Hanks through on goal and Prince William (waves) in the centre of defence, and they still would have been warbling on about the troubled times in N17.
The two big "stories" around the game though were how bad Spurs currently are and Villa signing Rashford. The latter got a fair amount of discussion too, particularly at the end once they had a Rashford performance to discuss.
Someone on (I think) the match thread compared it to us getting walloped by Fulham which saw Gerrard got sacked - the story of that game wasn't Fulham putting in a perfectly solid performance, it was Villa being a car-crash and yesterday was similar.
I agree with that. Cutting Unai’s interview off whilst he was mid flow was shite though.
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Twenty seven passes without a spurs touch between the goal kick from Asensio / Rogers chance and the not called foul on Rashford. All players but Emi involved.
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I see and understand the Spurs angle, but really it all amounts to "underachieving club are doing even worse than usual". No more or less than we've had for years with a fraction of the attention.
Spurs are a bigger, more interesting club because they're in London. If they weren't they'd get a similar level of attention as us or Everton.
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I thought this (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/l0056y4h/the-fa-cup-202425-aston-villa-v-tottenham-hotspur-postmatch-analysis)was a well-balanced post-match discussion, and Joe Hart's input was particularly good.
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After his interview yesterday he can go fuck himself. Reaching onto the box of excuses with a dour, negative and frankly pathetic response to defeat. I watched half of their game at Anfield and alongside yesterday the only player who looked at all enthused or up for it was Spence.
He's beginning to make Eddie Jones seem likeable.
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Great performance one of the best this season some super football being played
Finishing is a big problem though and has been for awhile
I was critical of the manager and Club before the game saying we don’t take the domestic cups seriously, I mean I wasn’t wrong it’s the first time we’ve reached this round for 10 years
But yesterday we did take it seriously we put a proper team out and went for it can’t ask any more than that
So I don’t mind holding my hands up and saying well done, you restored my belief in actually wanting to win the FA Cup again
Get some centre half’s back fit, improve on our finishing in front of goal, and will be a serious threat in any game or any competition we’re in
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If we were more clinical, we'd be smashing some of the sides we play and our league goal difference would look a lot better. We do need to get better at taking our chances and looking more solid at the back.
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100% that is by far and away the best domestic cup performance under Unai - I'm sure he can smell a decent cup run and has increased the focus on it - even more so with the additions.
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Thought it was a tremendous performance, some of our play going forward was sheer class, we torn Spurs apart, with better finishing it could easily have been 4 or 5, the only downside was Konsa's injury, hopefully it's not too serious. Rogers, Ramsey, Kamara, Ascensio all superb, but probably the biggest plus for me was SJM's display, one of the best games he's played for us, magnificent.
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We don’t need to accept simplistic media narratives. Call it out for what it is!
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Did quite like a comment on Tottenham Forum from a guy saying that he's starting a Southgate Out Thread now, just in case.
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Did quite like a comment on Tottenham Forum from a guy saying that he's starting a Southgate Out Thread now, just in case.
I’m no Southgate fan
But I’d put Good Money on him doing a better job at Spurs and Man United than the current managers they have
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JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.
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JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.
I think he was a very good finisher before his injury - always found the corner and rarely fluffed a chance - I think some of it is part of him getting his confidence / match fittness.
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If like a winnable away tie, with enough ticket allocation to have a chance of going.
Man Utd are shit and Man City aren’t what they were, but want to avoid them ideally. Also would like to avoid Forest and Bournemouth at the moment.
Preston, Plymouth, Cardiff away perhaps, or if not any of them three at home
We’ve taken care of WHU and Totteringham so why not Millwall and Palace …so long as it’s at home please?
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At last a domestic cup tie that we took seriously and showcased some lovely attacking play. Got moved out of my usual perch in the North Stand Upper and have to say the seats (especially legroom) and facilities in the Trinity were much better.
Not sure if I missed something but have they deleted all traces of Jhon Duran from the goals compilation that gets aired just before the teams come out?
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Anything that fucks Spurs up is fine with me. Ive never gotten over the way the press and BBC were giving them a rim job for winning the FA cup twice beating such footballing superpowers as exeter and coventry along the way while a certain club from Aston won the League, European cup and Super cup and by comparison got ignored. I hope Ange takes their arses down.
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https://www.facebook.com/reel/1293079458564329
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JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.
I think he was a very good finisher before his injury - always found the corner and rarely fluffed a chance - I think some of it is part of him getting his confidence / match fittness.
The position he plays he tends to find most of his chances fall on his weaker foot. I still think he's a half decent finisher. One of my favourite current players.
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That Porro is a snidey little shit. Got done with a nice bit of skill and chased back just to foul. And he's a whiner too.
That Bergval is also a right dirty c***. Constant fouling then had the cheek to look hard done by when he finally got yellow carded.
If you watch that back check out Tielemans' face when Bergvall starts starts complaining, the "who the fuck is this twat?" vibes are strong.
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Took a break from my usual seat in the Witton and tried the Holte Upper, right up the back. Blimey, those stairs were a killer.
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Get you fitter during the season though.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Kulusevski is the only one I'd consider.
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You'd think that if those chances fell to a fit Rashford, coming through the inside left channel in a 1-1 with the keeper, we might have been rather more comfortable at the end there.
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First two would be decent squad additions IF we don't keep Rashford or Asensio and decide to sell Mings. However the latter two I'm not so sure on.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Well you'd think that any team with Bissouma and Bentacour in it would be quite difficult to play vertical passes through and create lots of chances. Far from it.
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This made me laugh from their forum.
Ed Vanderlay Yesterday at 6:59 PM
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They have moved Antiques Roadshow for this . Watching Spurs is like thinking you have something worth 50 grand and the old grey haired prick tells you it is worth a tenner , same level of gutted
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Watching the highlights again, JJ while he had a super game driving forward from the left he really needs to look up more and square the ball. Even the goal he scored was straight at the keeper who made an error. I imagine that will be part of the video review today because we could and should have scored many more last night.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Van der van and Kulusevski, maybe Porrow.
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2019 - Spurs played in the CL final we played in the Division 2 playoff final. A lot can change in 5/6 years.
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2019 - Spurs played in the CL final we played in the Division 2 playoff final. A lot can change in 5/6 years.
I was there on the opening day a few months later enjoying the corporate in the gleaming new stadium, they had a £65m new signing (that they've just given away) and it felt like we were light years away from ever competing with them again.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Van der van and Kulusevski, maybe Porrow.
If by the last one you mean the Belgian Detective then yes I would agree.
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Bergvall should have been yellowed for when he hitched a ride on Malen. But the ref finally booked him for persistent fouling on a very innocuous challenge, so if he thought it was just for that I can see why the look. Not sure if the ref did the usual point around the pitch explanation or not.
It was young Mr Gray who took a ride on Donyall's back but yes Bergvall should have had two yellows long before he had one.
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100% that is by far and away the best domestic cup performance under Unai -
Yes but it's a very low bar.
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I think we should actively look at getting Kulusevski if there's a hint he would come. He's a great player.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
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2019 - Spurs played in the CL final we played in the Division 2 playoff final. A lot can change in 5/6 years.
I was there on the opening day a few months later enjoying the corporate in the gleaming new stadium, they had a £65m new signing (that they've just given away) and it felt like we were light years away from ever competing with them again.
They paid more for a player than our owners paid for our club.
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2019 - Spurs played in the CL final we played in the Division 2 playoff final. A lot can change in 5/6 years.
I was there on the opening day a few months later enjoying the corporate in the gleaming new stadium, they had a £65m new signing (that they've just given away) and it felt like we were light years away from ever competing with them again.
They paid more for a player than our owners paid for our club.
Who was that?
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We don’t need to accept simplistic media narratives. Call it out for what it is!
Is that Heaven17 ?
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I was on the Holte yesterday. I almost wanted the game to go into extra time, just to see more of Asensio, Rogers and Rashford combining. Ah well, I'll just have to wait until Saturday.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
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JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.
I think he was a very good finisher before his injury - always found the corner and rarely fluffed a chance - I think some of it is part of him getting his confidence / match fittness.
The position he plays he tends to find most of his chances fall on his weaker foot. I still think he's a half decent finisher. One of my favourite current players.
Yep, he needs to work on his left peg a bit. That's the problem with the fashion for players playing on the opposite side to their stronger foot. Cutting-in works well but running onto a ball on your weak side will show up in your crap shots.
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Some great football was witnessed tonight and I can wait to watch them again. That little link up with Asensio and Rogers was sublime. The back heel was just in font of me and there was an audible gasp from the crowd. If only Rogers had put that in the back of the net we'd be talking about that goal for years to come. Ipswich up next. Bring our A game and we should bag the 3 points. We need to improve our GD which currently stands at -3 . It's a minor miracle that we're still in touching distance of top four.
There was the other move after where Ramsey was clean through that was sensational, we'd popped it around in our own box and then cut through them like a ribbon, it deserved a much better finish from a player that's more than capable of it.
Yeah that was a great move which was crying out for a Thierry Henry style drop of the shoulder to send the keeper one way leaving a gaping goal to smash the ball into. I'd really love our strikers to work on one on one's.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Van der van and Kulusevski, maybe Porrow.
I think only Van der Ven would be a significant step up for us. The other three wouldn’t be. They’re no better than what we have already
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
On the TV it looked like they had the normal away upper in the DE plus the North upper.
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2019 - Spurs played in the CL final we played in the Division 2 playoff final. A lot can change in 5/6 years.
I was there on the opening day a few months later enjoying the corporate in the gleaming new stadium, they had a £65m new signing (that they've just given away) and it felt like we were light years away from ever competing with them again.
They paid more for a player than our owners paid for our club.
Who was that?
I'm presuming the player being referred to is Ndombole who cost them £62m in 2019.
In 2016, Xia bought us for £76 million from Randy Lerner.
In July 2018, NSWE purchased a 55% controlling stake worth £30m and bought the other 45% a bit after that.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
Too much.
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Was that the best domestic cup performance since the Liverpool semi-final in 2015? (and was it better than that?)
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I was on the Holte yesterday. I almost wanted the game to go into extra time, just to see more of Asensio, Rogers and Rashford combining. Ah well, I'll just have to wait until Saturday.
Yes it was a bit special when those boys came on at 2-0. But this was a good place against a pathetic team now let's see how they do if we are up against it on Saturday and need a goal.
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Was that the best domestic cup performance since the Liverpool semi-final in 2015? (and was it better than that?)
Not comparable IMO. Liverpool was better simply because they were odds on to win, not a broken team and had Coutinho and Gerrard were driving their attacks. Yesterday it was a game we should have won and did win although made hard work of it by missing loads of chances.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
The normal away section.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
The normal away section.
So curious why they did it like that for Spurs and not West Ham? Lesson learned or different allocation?
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Come on own up who took the piss with this?
Villan Yesterday at 10:02 PM
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Hi Spurs fans
Home from the match and just thought I’d offer my opinion from the other side of the fence.
Firstly, great turn out from your fans for a rubbish kick off time on a Sunday for away fans.
Watching your match on Thursday, it was obvious confidence was going to be low if we could make a quick start which is exactly the way it played out.
Obviously a lot of injuries hitting both teams hard didn’t help and appreciate that you could have put out a different eleven.
First half we created chances galore that we squandered and always a worry when there’s only a goal in it.
Knew we would concede (it’s the Villa way) but fortunately for us too late in the day to make much of a difference.
Having witnessed us getting pummelled by 4 the last 2 times we have played you, it’s obvious that a fully fit Spurs squad is a different animal to the one I’ve seen today. Also, confidence looks shot.
Not sure if your problem is the injuries, Ange, Levy or a combination of all 3.
Still could be an exciting season if you can get everyone back in time for the knock out rounds in the Europa League. All the best for the rest of the season.
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Too nice to be one of us. VillaDawg maybe ?
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honestly I don't see many of that team I'd be interested in, Van der Ven would be good and Kulusevski maybe (but I'd rather keep Asensio) but after I don't think anyone else would near our best 11 and a fair few wouldn't get on the bench if we have everyone fit.
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I do like that Van Der Ven but he also seems a bit brittle. Fast as fuck though.
I'd certainly take Kulusevski off them, as I'm sure other clubs would too.
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How we didn’t score 6 for my forecast of a 6-1 score line I’ll never know.
A fully deserved win though and really are a force at home aren’t we!
Looking forward to Ipswich, Liverpool Chelsea, already!
Up The Villa!
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How we didn’t score 6 for my forecast of a 6-1 score line I’ll never know.
A fully deserved win though and really are a force at home aren’t we!
It should have been 6-1, you weren't to know that JJ wouldn't have his shooting boots on.
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The away fans rammed off in the upper north with the first 10 or so rows blanked off worked better than giving away all the Witton upper .
How much of the Doug Ellis did they get?
The normal away section.
So curious why they did it like that for Spurs and not West Ham? Lesson learned or different allocation?
Giving West Hame the entire Witton Lane was a mistake. It felt overwhelming to see opposition fans along the full length of the pitch and being given prime position. One reason may have been that Club thought we would not sell out against them. Yesterday was much better as away fans were confined to usual spot and tucked away in upper north 10 rows back.
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Fine by me and laughable how we toyed with the opposition yesterday but I still say it should have been Tamworth they would have given us a game!
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How we didn’t score 6 for my forecast of a 6-1 score line I’ll never know.
A fully deserved win though and really are a force at home aren’t we!
It should have been 6-1, you weren't to know that JJ wouldn't have his shooting boots on.
Felt like a 6-1 -utter domination. To think they were sniffing around JJ in the summer is sickening! I said last season they would not beat us into 4th place and that they would fall down the league this season and the manager would be found out. Another correct prediction!
We’re going to hammer someone soon aren’t we!
And I feel for Tamworth though as Spurs didn’t even deserve to be playing us!
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I'd imagine the post game team meeting is a video of all the goals we didn't score. I suppose it's a positive thing that after such a great performance, we've still got areas we can improve on. 2-1 flattered Spurs and will probably keep Ange in the job a bit longer.
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I'd imagine the post game team meeting is a video of all the goals we didn't score. I suppose it's a positive thing that after such a great performance, we've still got areas we can improve on. 2-1 flattered Spurs and will probably keep Ange in the job a bit longer.
Yes that’s a great point on post game as I think killing teams off is the next step . Ed Sheeran better worry as an Ipswich fan but it’s the chances against Liverpool and Chelsea have to take advantage of.
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The difference in managers was shown by the way Postecoglou's only answer second half was to tell his players to kick ours
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I don't think I've ever seen Unai as relaxed in a post-match interview as he was last night.
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but absolute kudos and respect to Porro.
When Digne went down poleaxed, Porro was the first to recognise the danger and rushed to Digne to ensure he was ok.
I looked like he was checking Digne hadn’t swallowed his tongue or something.
Well done that man.
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Probably remembers what happened to Bentacur earlier in the season.
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Probably remembers what happened to Bentacur earlier in the season.
Have to say since the injury he has been really poor. Doesnt seem the same player anymore. I reckon spurs might cash on him in summer
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but absolute kudos and respect to Porro.
When Digne went down poleaxed, Porro was the first to recognise the danger and rushed to Digne to ensure he was ok.
I looked like he was checking Digne hadn’t swallowed his tongue or something.
Well done that man.
That’s nice to read.
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Still a cvnt, though?!
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Ramsey always hits the keeper and Rogers normally puts it wide! Lots of practice please lads.
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Being aware of where your team mates are occasionally wouldn't hurt either. Especially when they're in front of an open goal.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing. IF they had scored the goals, no one would be stating they should have squared. If they had squared and it was either cut-out or saved/missed, we would have been stating they should have taken it on themselves.
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JJ is not a natural finisher, on replaying all his chances he kept his eyes on the ball all through the strike, he had no awareness of the positioning of the keeper and hit the ball straight at him. He did well in general play but he has to learn the art.
Didn't bother him v West Ham from the same position. Good that he's getting into those positions anyway.
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Of their squad i think I'd take ven der ven, Kulusevski, Bissouma (personal life aside) and possibly Bentancour.
Van der van and Kulusevski, maybe Porrow.
I think only Van der Ven would be a significant step up for us. The other three wouldn’t be. They’re no better than what we have already
Van der Ven if you can keep him fit, Kulusevski is class and Archie Gray will be a great player but will end up in midfield not filling in at the back like he has pretty much all season. Boggles my head that their manager had Ben Davies on the bench who can play left centre back which would release Gray to play as a 6 with some mobility….guess I’m thinking too simplistic :-)
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Van der Ven if you can keep him fit, Kulusevski is class and Archie Gray will be a great player but will end up in midfield not filling in at the back like he has pretty much all season. Boggles my head that their manager had Ben Davies on the bench who can play left centre back which would release Gray to play as a 6 with some mobility….guess I’m thinking too simplistic :-)
Not sure where his best position is. Leeds last season were playing him mostly at RB and apart from a couple of cameo subs at the start of the season, he has been employed right across the back 4 for Spurs as well.
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I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.
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I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.
I've seen nothing when watching him even before at Leeds that made him stand out as the prospect people were talking about.
Leeds to a great line in hyping their youngsters to be fair to them.
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TBH he is only 18 and probably dropped into a bad position at Spurs. But £30mil does seem to be an example of overhype. I had a quick search of the most expensive teenagers in English football and he is in the middle of the top 10 (https://www.football365.com/news/most-expensive-premier-league-teenagers-ever-man-utd-liverpool). Some names in there.
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That list is pretty shit really. Some of them are still very young so have room to improve but none of the older players there have justified what was paid.
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I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.
He struggled on Sunday but he has probably played double the amount of games than was planned for him this season particularly the last couple of months when he has been at centre back with a pedestrian midfield in front of him. He looks like a really good #6 or wide right prospect to me
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I was surprised at how poor Gray's passing was. Expect him to struggle playing CB, but thought his passing would at least be good.
He struggled on Sunday but he has probably played double the amount of games than was planned for him this season particularly the last couple of months when he has been at centre back with a pedestrian midfield in front of him. He looks like a really good #6 or wide right prospect to me
Is the numbre of games he'd played really that much of an excuse? He played more than fifty times for Leeds last season and clearly did a decent enough job there.
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TBH he is only 18 and probably dropped into a bad position at Spurs. But £30mil does seem to be an example of overhype. I had a quick search of the most expensive teenagers in English football and he is in the middle of the top 10 (https://www.football365.com/news/most-expensive-premier-league-teenagers-ever-man-utd-liverpool). Some names in there.
Just looked down that list and there’s no Vinicius Junior or Rodrygo, didn’t the other young Brazilian who scored against England that plays for Madrid go for big money as well?
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Very much not "in English football" though.
Mbappe was a teenager when PSG paid £160m for him.
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Very much not "in English football" though.
Mbappe was a teenager when PSG paid £160m for him.
From Mbappe's wiki page.
On 31 August 2017, Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) announced the signing of Mbappé from Monaco on loan with a mandatory purchase option of €180 million.[63][64] According to PSG's assistant sporting director Luis Ferrer, the shift in Mbappé's decision to join the club was partly thanks to a "convincing" speech given by manager Unai Emery at the Mbappés' home over the summer.
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TBH he is only 18 and probably dropped into a bad position at Spurs. But £30mil does seem to be an example of overhype. I had a quick search of the most expensive teenagers in English football and he is in the middle of the top 10 (https://www.football365.com/news/most-expensive-premier-league-teenagers-ever-man-utd-liverpool). Some names in there.
Just looked down that list and there’s no Vinicius Junior or Rodrygo, didn’t the other young Brazilian who scored against England that plays for Madrid go for big money as well?
Everywhere
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/the-10-most-expensive-teenagers-of-all-time-transfers
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Very much not "in English football" though.
Mbappe was a teenager when PSG paid £160m for him.
Ah!! I missed that nugget of crucial information, don’t mind me, as you were! 🤦♂️
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Pitchside. The ooohs aaaahs moment is at 5:20 in. And if BE is still lurking, his bit is at 6:50.
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Pitchside. The ooohs aaaahs moment is at 5:20 in. And if BE is still lurking, his bit is at 6:50.
That’s marvellous, thanks for posting.
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Pete Schaad hasn’t produced a Holy Trinity podcast reviewing the game last Sunday as far as I can see. Anybody know why? I quite like his podcasts.
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Pete Schaad hasn’t produced a Holy Trinity podcast reviewing the game last Sunday as far as I can see. Anybody know why? I quite like his podcasts.
He's ill.