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Title: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on January 11, 2025, 09:26:15 AM
Wednesday 15th January, 19.30

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne

Kamara
Onana
Ramsey

Bailey
Rogers
Watkins

1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 11, 2025, 09:35:47 AM
Id give Buendia a start for this one. Bailey can sit it out.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Astnor on January 11, 2025, 09:48:21 AM
Martinez - Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne - Onana, Kamara - Rogers, Tielemans, Ramsey - Watkins. Subs in at 64 th min.: Ned, Maatsen, Buendia, Duran. Carlos is injuried?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 11, 2025, 10:03:45 AM
I suppose there's not much chance of Malen landing before Wednesday.  As poor as Bailey was last night, I'd still probably start him ahed of Buendia. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 11, 2025, 10:41:27 AM
They’ll get an emotional lift from Moyes going back.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on January 11, 2025, 10:52:44 AM
Hopefully the lift lasts as long as West Ham's did.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Astnor on January 11, 2025, 10:55:34 AM
They’ll get an emotional lift from Moyes going back.
I guess Moyes will be their manager for the game, then they come out as West ham last night and as them fall apart second half - hopefully.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 11, 2025, 11:24:04 AM
If we give away our usual early goal we will be in trouble,.
Deal with the early onslaught, calm the fans down then score.3 points.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 11, 2025, 03:46:55 PM
They’ll get an emotional lift from Moyes going back.

They will...but their team is still crap. Match them for intensity and our greater quality should prevail. Play at snails pace again and we will be in trouble.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 11, 2025, 04:05:35 PM
Score first and we'll win 2-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 11, 2025, 04:57:21 PM
I am wrong as i think i saw  a stat when he was west ham manager and that emerys record  vs moyes wasnt freat but we won the last one he was in charge?

We have drawn against Everton  last few years. I think they will definitely  be better so will be tough.

Dont understand  the logic in this appointment its like they want to go backwards. If i was a everton fan i much rather would have seen someone like fonseca
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 11, 2025, 05:34:13 PM
Wednesday 15th January, 19.30

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne

Kamara
Onana
Ramsey

Bailey
Rogers
Watkins

1-1
This team, other than I’d have Tielemans for Bailey, with Rogers and Ramsey either side of Watkins. Will be good to have Duran back as an option.

Our away record this season is shite really. Their crap but Moyes will have them up for it, but we really should be getting a draw at least here.
 
2-1 (Watkins, Ramsey)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 11, 2025, 05:35:45 PM
I would start with big Jhon, he must be raring to go.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on January 11, 2025, 06:09:02 PM
I would start with big Jhon, he must be raring to go.

Absolutely would start Big Jhon, Watkins hasn’t done enough the last 3 games to not make way.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on January 11, 2025, 06:17:09 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: charlatan on January 11, 2025, 06:23:46 PM
I am wrong as i think i saw  a stat when he was west ham manager and that emerys record  vs moyes wasnt freat but we won the last one he was in charge?

We have drawn against Everton  last few years. I think they will definitely  be better so will be tough.

Dont understand  the logic in this appointment its like they want to go backwards. If i was a everton fan i much rather would have seen someone like fonseca

A safe pair of hands for a relegation struggle when they are odds on to survive. Not much potential immediate upside to taking a risk, but a very obvious downside.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on January 11, 2025, 06:27:36 PM
The team that finished against West Ham with Duran replacing Watkins. Luca's been brilliant but Maatsen deserves his run. And Leon and Ollie are just not on it this season. At all.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2025, 06:32:58 PM
Team more or less picks itself.

-------- Martinez ----------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- onana --- Kamara-----
Rogers ------------ Ramsey
---- Bailey --- Duran -----
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on January 11, 2025, 06:41:23 PM
I would start with big Jhon, he must be raring to go.

Absolutely would start Big Jhon, Watkins hasn’t done enough the last 3 games to not make way.

Just the goal and two assists. Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2025, 06:49:23 PM
I would start with big Jhon, he must be raring to go.

Absolutely would start Big Jhon, Watkins hasn’t done enough the last 3 games to not make way.
Agree, when you consider 3 home games and the opposition levels he should have been filling his boots .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 11, 2025, 06:54:25 PM
7.30pm kick-off? Just like the old days!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on January 11, 2025, 10:39:33 PM
7.30pm kick-off? Just like the old days!

Suits TV I guess (it's on TNT if anyone wasn't aware)

Two consecutive new manager bounces to - possibly - face

1-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PhilVill on January 12, 2025, 07:28:45 AM
Play at a high tempo and it's a stroll in the park. Play that turgid shit we did for 65 mins on Friday and we lose
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Woody17 on January 12, 2025, 07:38:48 AM
I would start with big Jhon, he must be raring to go.

Absolutely would start Big Jhon, Watkins hasn’t done enough the last 3 games to not make way.

Just the goal and two assists. Tough crowd.
The goal was a penalty wasn’t it? Duran straight back in for me too.
Think he deserves a run of starts.
Love Ollie but his conversion rate is poor this season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 12, 2025, 07:59:50 AM
This is going to be so hyped, return of the Saint, unfinished business, Blue half of Merseyside stand to welcome returning hero.
I really hope we piss on their chips but fear the worst
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 12, 2025, 08:30:04 AM
Just try not to concede a daft goal in the opening 20 minutes. No idea why we're such slow starters.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on January 12, 2025, 05:18:16 PM
Reappointing Moyes? What next? Us reappointing Martin O'Neill? Tony Blair becoming Prime Minister again?...
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 12, 2025, 05:29:19 PM
They’ll get an emotional lift from Moyes going back.
Listening to talkshite  on Friday and i heard Tony Bellew calling Moyes a snake who is not welcome back at Everton. I get the feeling that's the general view of Toffees fans after the way he dumped them for the United job. The players will probably put an extra shift in though but I still think we will have a bit too much for them even with the new manager bounce. 2-1 Villa. Onana and Watkins. Gary Lineker for them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 12, 2025, 05:33:40 PM
Keep it tight , quieten the crowd slowly take control score a winner . Bit like when Big Dunc took charge for our game a few seasons ago .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 12, 2025, 06:52:50 PM
Who's Tony Bellew?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 12, 2025, 06:54:22 PM
Boxer.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 12, 2025, 07:08:06 PM
Who's Tony Bellew?

Runner-up on IACGMOOH 2023.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 12, 2025, 07:09:25 PM
Anything less than a 5 goal victory will be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 12, 2025, 07:14:04 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/4WCGrH5/article-2608950-1-D391-F3-D00000578-889-634x442.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4WCGrH5)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 12, 2025, 08:07:38 PM
Long-term it’ll fail but it’s probably the worst time to play them. But ultimately we need to play well, if we do that we’ll win. Problem is it’s been quite poor this year, in terms of away form.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 12, 2025, 08:18:18 PM
On GOT they're probably moaning that Onana is bound to score.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: garyfouroaks on January 13, 2025, 04:19:53 AM
another club who have panicked at the thought of taking on the mighty Villa by sacking their manager.

David Moyes now, we are soooo scared... :D
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on January 13, 2025, 07:50:10 AM
You can be sure that Moyes will not want to lose his first game back so I think the onus will be on us to break them down.

Youri or Emi to play just in front of the midfielders to try and break their lines and give us a hard fought narrow win.

0-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 13, 2025, 08:48:56 AM
I was going for 0-0 before Dyche left and will stay the same now Moyes is in.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 13, 2025, 08:53:51 AM
I'm almost certain it'll be a draw of some kind. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 13, 2025, 09:19:00 AM
They've got one decent attacking threat in Ndiaye. We should be winning this.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 13, 2025, 10:09:57 AM
They've got one decent attacking threat in Ndiaye. We should be winning this.

Is mcneil back?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on January 13, 2025, 10:27:00 AM
Surely we should be beating these, regardless of the Moyes return, they are a very poor side and can't seem to find the net at all. 0-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2025, 10:31:13 AM
We’ve had some tricky fixtures but we haven’t won away in the league since October have we? We need to be better than we have been.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 13, 2025, 10:55:58 AM
They've got one decent attacking threat in Ndiaye. We should be winning this.

Is mcneil back?

Him and Calvert-Lewin are both 50/50 from what I can make out.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 13, 2025, 10:59:14 AM
They've got one decent attacking threat in Ndiaye. We should be winning this.

Is mcneil back?

Him and Calvert-Lewin are both 50/50 from what I can make out.

Thanks Paul.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DrGonzo on January 13, 2025, 11:11:09 AM
Think we'll see a decent performance this time up, we're due one.  With McGinn out I'd quite like to see Emi B get a run out, his hussle in the opponent's half has been missing without our skipper.  Also would allow Tielemans to play the adavnced of the midfield 3 which is, to me, his best role.

                                          Emi B

                                                                           Tielemans


                                 Onana
   
                                                                       Kamara.
                                         
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 13, 2025, 11:38:21 AM
Think we'll see a decent performance this time up, we're due one.  With McGinn out I'd quite like to see Emi B get a run out, his hussle in the opponent's half has been missing without our skipper.  Also would allow Tielemans to play the adavnced of the midfield 3 which is, to me, his best role.

                                          Emi B

                                                                           Tielemans


                                 Onana
   
                                                                       Kamara.
                                         

How would that work in practice though?

Our 'Normal' shape is something like this (I've probably kept the left back far too deep but it does the job):

(https://i.ibb.co/mRRxzj5/lineup.png) (https://ibb.co/mRRxzj5)

So which role are you suggesting for Tielemans in that? McGinn sometimes covers the 7 role but generally that ends up with him being much closer to where I've put the 10 and they get in each others way a bit.

It's important to remember that however we shape up what we're looking to get into is a shape something like this (when we have the ball):

(https://i.ibb.co/MCSDNfZ/lineup-1.png) (https://ibb.co/MCSDNfZ)

If you go with the midfield as you've suggested I'm not sure where we get the width on the right from. Maybe you push the right back on, let Kamara cover that spot and bring Tielemans and Onana in the 8 and 6 positions respectively but that seems to be a plan 'b' at best for Emery.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: OCD on January 13, 2025, 11:45:13 AM
We're screwed if Click to edit is out.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 13, 2025, 11:48:31 AM
We're screwed if Click to edit is out.

He's very versatile, can play everywhere!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on January 13, 2025, 12:26:16 PM
7.30pm kick-off? Just like the old days!

Suits TV I guess (it's on TNT if anyone wasn't aware)

Two consecutive new manager bounces to - possibly - face

1-1

Nice work!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 13, 2025, 01:17:05 PM
I think we’ll win this 2-0 or better. They’re poor no matter who the manager is and we’re a Champions League team. I’m surprised at some of the negativity on here to be honest but if we can’t beat them we don’t really deserve to be in the shout for top 4 again
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 13, 2025, 01:33:29 PM
I’m surprised at some of the negativity on here to be honest

Maybe our away record?
       
Won   3 Drawn   1   Lost 5   Scored 11   let in 19   GD -8
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 13, 2025, 01:34:26 PM
Although Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea and City have all failed to beat them this season as well. I suppose it will depend on whether we play the slow game or not. Forest pretty much gave all the possession to Everton and said come and break us down, and we will hit you on the break with long balls and pacey forwards.

Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 13, 2025, 01:39:07 PM
I hope Duran starts, going for a 1-3 win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: steamer on January 13, 2025, 02:00:42 PM
is his ban over ?
I thought it had been increased
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on January 13, 2025, 02:05:18 PM
is his ban over ?
I thought it had been increased

Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 13, 2025, 02:17:11 PM
I’m surprised at some of the negativity on here to be honest

Maybe our away record?
       
Won   3 Drawn   1   Lost 5   Scored 11   let in 19   GD -8
Still 8th and 4 points off 4th  and Everton are a poor side  reasons to be positive with half a season to go??
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 13, 2025, 02:25:50 PM
is his ban over ?
I thought it had been increased

Nothing yet.

I can't see them extending now, they normally give you a bit more than 48 hours as notice if they're doing something like that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on January 13, 2025, 02:32:11 PM
I think you're right. Then again, given the abject way the whole thing has been handled I imagine they'll give us news of the additional ban ten minutes before he's due to start on Wednesday.

Then increase it again because we were going to play him.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 13, 2025, 02:35:52 PM
They can still extend it, doesn't necessarily mean for this match though, just when they get around to hearing it. FA website has the below against it still.

Quote
INCIDENT OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF MATCH OFFICIALS BUT REPORTED TO THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION (FAST TRACK) – NON-STANDARD CASE
Jhon Durán, Player, Aston Villa FC
 
Newcastle United FC v Aston Villa FC
Premier League
26 December 2024

Breach of FA Rule E3.1 – It is alleged that in or around the 32nd minute of the fixture, following your dismissal, you acted in an improper manner.
 
Mr Durán admits the Charge and elects a Paper Hearing.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 13, 2025, 02:43:46 PM
Do Everton fans really like Moyes? They were certainly ready for a change when he left them.  He made them tough to beat but they were full to watch and if I recall were fairly happy to see him gone.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 13, 2025, 02:58:08 PM
Do Everton fans really like Moyes? They were certainly ready for a change when he left them.  He made them tough to beat but they were full to watch and if I recall were fairly happy to see him gone.
Yes, the pundits have completely glossed over this. The fact he dumped them as soon as Manure came calling also. I hope they boo him onto the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: jon collett on January 13, 2025, 03:00:30 PM
Is it necessarily an extension. Or a charge in itself?

So could he play Wednesday but then they impose a penalty afterwards?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 13, 2025, 03:06:39 PM
Do Everton fans really like Moyes? They were certainly ready for a change when he left them.  He made them tough to beat but they were full to watch and if I recall were fairly happy to see him gone.

It’s a bit like players having their best games when they don’t play
Everton and West Ham both got rid of Moyes because of the standard of football, which is fair enough but then they failed do any better or get anywhere since he went

So he gets better the longer he’s not there
I can’t really for the life of me think why are you get rid of Dyche because of the crap football and then reappoint Moyes
But then I don’t know what sort of manager would be going in there and making anything of it

Anyway,  I don’t think Everton will be up for it I think Moyes will be negative and cautious not wanting to lose tactics based on defence.
So it’s an opportunity for us,
We don’t tend to impose ourselves or go for it ourselves, so we will probably try controlling the game and trying to break them down at the back


Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 13, 2025, 03:13:42 PM
Is it necessarily an extension. Or a charge in itself?

So could he play Wednesday but then they impose a penalty afterwards?

Additional charge, I used extension by mistake. Essentially if they decide a ban is required for the bottle kick / refusal to follow orders, it will be once the FA hearing is completed. Cunha was two weeks after his incident.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 13, 2025, 03:49:59 PM
Do Everton fans really like Moyes? They were certainly ready for a change when he left them.  He made them tough to beat but they were full to watch and if I recall were fairly happy to see him gone.
They can still extend it, doesn't necessarily mean for this match though, just when they get around to hearing it. FA website has the below against it still.

Quote
INCIDENT OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF MATCH OFFICIALS BUT REPORTED TO THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION (FAST TRACK) – NON-STANDARD CASE
Jhon Durán, Player, Aston Villa FC
 
Newcastle United FC v Aston Villa FC
Premier League
26 December 2024

Breach of FA Rule E3.1 – It is alleged that in or around the 32nd minute of the fixture, following your dismissal, you acted in an improper manner.
 
Mr Durán admits the Charge and elects a Paper Hearing.

I hope that any further action from the authoroties would be a fine rather than a suspension if they do decide to punish.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: jon collett on January 13, 2025, 03:59:13 PM
Presumably if he has admitted it and dealing with it on paper then he’s going to apologise and learn from it.

Hopefully the punishment can be light given he’s already missed three games.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DB on January 13, 2025, 07:34:30 PM

Got a bad feeling on this one, they will be up for this. Hopefully our quality can get us through.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2025, 08:12:25 PM
We’ve lost our last 5 away league games and scored 1 and conceded 14 in those games. Now they were tough fixtures, but that it is a pretty dreadful run however you look at it. Hopefully Wednesday will be a significant improvement, because we continue to be pretty patchy.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 13, 2025, 08:14:04 PM
We’ve lost our last 5 away league games and scored 1 and conceded 14 in those games. Now they were tough fixtures, but that it is a pretty dreadful run however you look at it. Hopefully Wednesday will be a significant improvement, because we continue to be pretty patchy.

No matter who the opposition  is- thats woeful and pathetic. Certainly need improvement starting Wednesday  night
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 13, 2025, 09:32:21 PM
Everton fans are divided down the middle on Moyes .
Imperative we start well , expect a frenzied start from them and game manage the situation . Looking to the experience in the team to step up .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 13, 2025, 09:34:30 PM
Everton fans are divided down the middle on Moyes .

Which is not a great situation, it would not take long for them to get restless, starting tomorrow I hope.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 13, 2025, 09:37:35 PM
Everton fans are divided down the middle on Moyes .

Which is not a great situation, it would not take long for them to get restless, starting tomorrow I hope.
Yeah exactly and quite binary , if we can spoil the party i think they will turn pretty quickly . A lot of them aren't impressed with the appointment.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on January 13, 2025, 10:58:31 PM
0-4 Villa with Moyes eyeing up another multi-million pound pay-off.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 13, 2025, 11:07:38 PM
We should win this.

Generally our squad has matched up well to them since promotion. Think it's something like six wins and three draws since coming back up?

Yeah they'll get a lift from Moyes but their gameplan will still be low block and getting in crosses and set pieces. With Mings we should be o.k with that and certainly prevent a repeat of the goal we conceded at VP when Calvert Lewin just headed in unmarked in the six yard box.

Big question is who starts at CF but their backline won't fancy facing either.

1-3 win on our final trip to Goodison.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 13, 2025, 11:15:37 PM
I’m surprised at some of the negativity on here to be honest

Maybe our away record?
       
Won   3 Drawn   1   Lost 5   Scored 11   let in 19   GD -8

Yeah it's been poor recently but we've beaten better teams than Everton away like Fulham.

A case of defend set pieces well and we should create enough to win this by two goals. For their height Digne and Onana start this I'm fairly sure.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 13, 2025, 11:52:47 PM
Win the crowd .
And you will win you're ... 3 points
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hillbilly on January 14, 2025, 01:58:47 AM
Do Everton fans really like Moyes? They were certainly ready for a change when he left them.  He made them tough to beat but they were full to watch and if I recall were fairly happy to see him gone.
They can still extend it, doesn't necessarily mean for this match though, just when they get around to hearing it. FA website has the below against it still.

Quote
INCIDENT OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF MATCH OFFICIALS BUT REPORTED TO THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION (FAST TRACK) – NON-STANDARD CASE
Jhon Durán, Player, Aston Villa FC
 
Newcastle United FC v Aston Villa FC
Premier League
26 December 2024

Breach of FA Rule E3.1 – It is alleged that in or around the 32nd minute of the fixture, following your dismissal, you acted in an improper manner.
 
Mr Durán admits the Charge and elects a Paper Hearing.

I hope that any further action from the authoroties would be a fine rather than a suspension if they do decide to punish.

That would be nice but I suspect they'll go for summary execution.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on January 14, 2025, 03:12:20 PM
Will this come too soon for Malen?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 14, 2025, 03:20:30 PM
Will this come too soon for Malen?

Yes on the basis we haven’t signed him yet.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 14, 2025, 04:20:48 PM
We just cannot do our usual and gift them an early goal as Moyesball will be then just camp in their own half and we will frustratingly not be able to break them down.

First 15 min they will be up for it, players and crowd a like - if we can go at them from the off and even score our own early goal then self doubt will set in for them

We must remember they are hard to score against but are not very good

Must win game
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 14, 2025, 04:32:24 PM
They will be trying to trigger Duran into doing something daft no doubt. Moyes and his dark arts school of management .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2025, 04:44:18 PM
Any recommendations for places to park for Goodison?

Thanks
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on January 14, 2025, 05:22:26 PM
Any recommendations for places to park for Goodison?

Thanks

Birmingham.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 14, 2025, 07:58:02 PM
Any recommendations for places to park for Goodison?

Thanks
Any sidestreet is generally ok, pay the local scallywags to "look after your car mate"
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 14, 2025, 08:44:23 PM
Side streets off the Walton Road, not far to walk, parked before on a night, and yes pay the lads
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 14, 2025, 08:51:23 PM
Side streets off the Walton Road, not far to walk, parked before on a night, and yes pay the lads
Cheers both
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 14, 2025, 09:55:36 PM
Rivals all taking points off each other. We know what that means.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 14, 2025, 09:58:43 PM
Rivals all taking points off each other. We know what that means.
We win to reconsolidate?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 14, 2025, 10:16:12 PM
Why are we playing back to back away games in 4 days and Arsehole have back to back home games?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 14, 2025, 10:17:05 PM
Rivals all taking points off each other. We know what that means.
We win to reconsolidate?

Wishful thinking 😂
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 14, 2025, 10:20:39 PM
Why are we playing back to back away games in 4 days and Arsehole have back to back home games?
Don't think we are
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 14, 2025, 10:23:48 PM
Why are we playing back to back away games in 4 days and Arsehole have back to back home games?
Don't think we are

We are.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 14, 2025, 10:34:00 PM
Weird to think we weren't playing back to back away games really.

Why are we playing back to back away games in 4 days and Arsehole have back to back home games?

Just the way the fixtures have come out. Whilst it wasn't in four days, we had back to back home games against Everton and Wolves where they had back to back away games against Spurs and Citeh.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 14, 2025, 10:34:47 PM
We have just had back to back home games in Brighton and Leicester.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 14, 2025, 10:39:42 PM
Why are we playing back to back away games in 4 days and Arsehole have back to back home games?
Don't think we are

We are.
Apologies thought we were home this weekend
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 14, 2025, 10:42:52 PM
It is the most frequently played top flight fixture. But we can't play them at home every time.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 15, 2025, 05:55:03 AM
Tough game for us, we need to win this one as I cannot see us getting anything at Arsenal on Saturday
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 15, 2025, 06:59:58 AM
Presumably our last ever game at Goodison Park. Was quite confident, until they sacked their manager.

We've got a pants record against Moyes, but he has been out if the game for a while.

Still fancy us to get something here though.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 15, 2025, 07:24:09 AM
Presumably our last ever game at Goodison Park. Was quite confident, until they sacked their manager.

We've got a pants record against Moyes, but he has been out if the game for a while.

Still fancy us to get something here though.
True about our record against Moyes generally, apart from last season, 4 points out of 6
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 15, 2025, 08:21:58 AM
Tough game for us, we need to win this one as I cannot see us getting anything at Arsenal on Saturday

That's the spirit.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 15, 2025, 08:46:03 AM
Tough game for us, we need to win this one as I cannot see us getting anything at Arsenal on Saturday

That's the spirit.

Tbf arsenal isnt a easy place to go and win. We haven't really been hitting any trees away from home recently
Hopefully having duran and malen gives us a boost
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 15, 2025, 08:47:45 AM
Tough game for us, we need to win this one as I cannot see us getting anything at Arsenal on Saturday

That's the spirit.

Tbf arsenal isnt a easy place to go and win. We haven't really been hitting any trees away from home recently
Hopefully having duran and malen gives us a boost
Trees need to be pulled up not hit , unless you want to imitate Marc Bolan.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 15, 2025, 09:12:20 AM
Tough game for us, we need to win this one as I cannot see us getting anything at Arsenal on Saturday

That's the spirit.

Tbf arsenal isnt a easy place to go and win. We haven't really been hitting any trees away from home recently
Hopefully having duran and malen gives us a boost
Trees need to be pulled up not hit , unless you want to imitate Marc Bolan.

to be fair we have hit a few trees this season
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 15, 2025, 09:17:05 AM
Newcastle easily beat Arsenal last week followed by Man U knocking them out of the cup. Arsenal are bang average at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 15, 2025, 09:32:16 AM
Newcastle easily beat Arsenal last week followed by Man U knocking them out of the cup. Arsenal are bang average at the moment.

We are worse than average away from home though.

Anything is possible of course but we will have to be far better than we have been recently if we want to go win there
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Woody17 on January 15, 2025, 09:51:47 AM
We desperately need to beat Everton tonight so that Arsenal on Saturday will be a little bit of a ‘free swing’ as I personally feel we will struggle to get anything down there.
Results were kind to us last night so this is a real opportunity to get back into the mix.
Start strong, start quickly and with intent and they will struggle against us.
An early goal from us will kill it. Duran has to start if available.
We’ve got to go for the jugular from the first second.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 15, 2025, 09:58:01 AM
More worried about tonight than Arsenal on Saturday. Arsenal are under pressure, and I can see us taking all 3 points at the weekend.

MoyesBall tonight is a different story. These 3 away games over the next week will shape our season - 2 premier league wins and we're back in amongst the Champions League fight, and a win in Monaco surely assures us a Top 8 finish.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 15, 2025, 01:25:57 PM
if we are seriously wanting to challenge for a CL place which has to be the objective, we need to get at least 4 points from these 2 games.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 15, 2025, 01:53:16 PM
if we are seriously wanting to challenge for a CL place which has to be the objective, we need to get at least 4 points from these 2 games.

Yeah, I was thinking the same earlier.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 15, 2025, 02:46:21 PM
Would be a big decision to drop Watkins at the first opportunity with Duran back available. Sure he's not exactly performed at his best over the past 3 games but he hasn't been bad either. Cracking assist the last day. Match the intensity of Everton and we will win. Worried about Konsa's form and think he will be targeted.

Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne
Rogers, Kamara, Onana, Ramsey
Buendia, Watkins

Likes of Maatsen, Duran, Tielemans, Bailey off bench
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 15, 2025, 02:55:42 PM
if we are seriously wanting to challenge for a CL place which has to be the objective, we need to get at least 4 points from these 2 games.

Yeah, I was thinking the same earlier.

I'd say 6 brilliant, 4 good, 3 expected, 2 satisfactory and any less disappointing.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on January 15, 2025, 03:02:02 PM
Be prepared to be disappointed, i.e. default mode.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 15, 2025, 03:11:30 PM
On paper, we couldn't be too disappointed with two draws. But a win and a defeat would obviously be better. Anything more very impressive (especially if the win was at Arsenal).
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Astnor on January 15, 2025, 03:44:33 PM
Would be a big decision to drop Watkins at the first opportunity with Duran back available. Sure he's not exactly performed at his best over the past 3 games but he hasn't been bad either. Cracking assist the last day. Match the intensity of Everton and we will win. Worried about Konsa's form and think he will be targeted.

Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne
Rogers, Kamara, Onana, Ramsey
Buendia, Watkins

Likes of Maatsen, Duran, Tielemans, Bailey off bench
I would go with Tielemans ahead of Buendia, else the same. Not sure what to expect tonight, back to our best or suffering with sloopy defence and early goal against. Effect of Moyes unpredictable too. As a contender for CL place we should win now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 15, 2025, 04:22:30 PM
It is absolutely essential we are proactive in this game. If we get on top and score a couple quickly they’ll buckle. If we start slow and gift them an early goal it’ll be very difficult.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 15, 2025, 04:35:41 PM
Moyes's programme notes. A little bit on us, bet he'd love to be our manager:


Quote

What a pleasure and privilege it is to once again be able to write, good evening, Evertonians, and welcome to Goodison Park for tonight’s Premier League match against Aston Villa.

Needless to say, Everton Football Club means so much to me, and my family, and I’m delighted to have been trusted with this position again, having spent an unbelievable 11 years together previously.

I always felt deep down that our paths may cross again when I left in 2013 and for it to come to pass now, at such an important time in Everton’s history, feels like an incredible opportunity for myself and for us all to come together and really push forward for the good of Everton – something I know first-hand can be such a powerful thing.

Eleven years is a long time, especially in football terms, and I think I’m coming back to a very different Everton from the one I left. I want to recapture the feeling of togetherness we had – within the building in terms of players and staff, and also the unique bond with our supporters, who make this club so special.

Naturally, I think I’m a different manager from the one who left all those years ago as well. I’m definitely a bit older! And I hope I come back here a bit wiser, armed with more knowledge and more experiences that I can pass on to the players and everyone at the Club. One thing is for sure, I want Everton to be successful and I’ll be doing everything in my power to get us going on the right track again.

What hasn’t changed and won’t change is the values I believe in. I don’t think you can be successful without them. Everyone who plays for Everton must carry those Everton values – they must work hard and show their quality – and we’ll do everything to squeeze everything out of them. Then the most important thing is to be winning games. We need to get results. Not everything goes right in football. It can’t always be that way, but we’ve got to try to make more right than wrong between now and the end of the season.

The conversations I’ve had with the owners so far have been clear and encouraging. Obviously, we’re currently in a position that we need to address as quickly as possible and ultimately ensure we retain our Premier League status while giving Goodison Park a fitting send-off ahead of the move to our incredible new stadium.

While away from the Club, I’ve been looking from a distance at Everton, and the troubles we’ve had in recent years. I must say I think Sean Dyche did a great job to ride a lot of those difficult moments.

The hope now is that we’re seeing clearer blue skies in the distance – but there is plenty of hard work from us as players and staff to do to ensure we get there. We all need to be onboard to build a more positive future and my belief we can have that is genuine.

Tonight we welcome Unai Emery, his players, staff and everyone associated with Aston Villa.

Unai has done superbly well in turning around Villa’s fortunes after taking over a little less than two-and-a-half-years ago. Having guided them to European football, he’s now navigating that notorious transition of balancing more competitions and he is doing so very impressively, with Aston Villa well-placed in both the Premier League and Champions League.

But we must focus on ourselves – and what an opportunity for us under the Goodison lights to take on quality opposition and really take the game on and show what Everton is all about.


I don’t need reminding of how special this place can be on nights like these – some of my favourite memories as a manager have come from them – so let’s all play our part and make sure these last few opportunities to experience Goodison nights are ones to savour.

Enjoy the game.

David

Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tuscans on January 15, 2025, 04:53:49 PM
 Prince William surprised Aston Villa fans as he popped into a Wetherspoons in Birmingham ahead of Villa’s away game vs Everton tonight.
@hellomag
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Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 15, 2025, 05:05:40 PM
Rumour is he had sausage, egg and chippings and a dark fruit.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 15, 2025, 05:06:12 PM
I would start with big Jhon, not having played for nearly 3 weeks, he will be raring to go.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on January 15, 2025, 05:08:02 PM
It is absolutely essential we are proactive in this game. If we get on top and score a couple quickly they’ll buckle. If we start slow and gift them an early goal it’ll be very difficult.

It's almost like you haven't watched us play.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Beard82 on January 15, 2025, 05:08:19 PM
I dont think he will, just in case he is too hyped - might try to reintroduce him a bit more slowly
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DB on January 15, 2025, 06:08:38 PM
Just keep a clean sheet and don’t concede with 5mins.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 15, 2025, 06:13:26 PM
Not the Square Peg then.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on January 15, 2025, 06:16:55 PM
Watkins and Ramsey start, Bailey and Duran on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 15, 2025, 07:20:49 PM
Not the Square Peg then.

It's the one at the station isn't it?
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