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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on January 10, 2025, 09:58:54 PM
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Bad first-half. Acceptable second-half. Probably just about deserved the win.
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Like most of our games this season we turned it on for 15 minutes and that was enough.
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Never in doubt.
JJ is class, Emi did well.
Could do with more pace in the team.
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Very good for 15 or so mins and that was enough.
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West Ham should have made more of their dominance.
We won , move on.
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The camera mans assistant on the pitch giving it fist pumps after the whistle.
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Once Summerville went off and with our options off the bench, the routine home was win on the cards.
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Bad first-half. Acceptable second-half. Probably just about deserved the win.
Yeah thats putting it politely
First half was a embarrassment. We would have been given a good beating if we were playing a better side
But second half better still not great but takes charchter to come back. Thought cash and maatsen were best players. Buendia and ned good as well.
Youri was dreadful. I really bad performance from him tonight.
Thank fuck we are finally past the 3rd round
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First half our normal domestic cup strolling around, second half more like us! I’m pleased we have actually got through for once
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Piece of piss
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One of the worst first half’s I’ve seen. Once we actually tried to play at pace we were much better.
Best Emi B display for a while.
Ollie was fantastic for the second goal.
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What's this fourth round that people are talking about us being in?
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For the 15-20 minutes we played we were exceptional. Not sure what game Dixon watched to pick his motm.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing and Buendia's energy created space in the final third. Much better 2nd half after the subs.
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Buendia s best appaerance this season.
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Love a rubbish win.
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Rogers had a tough night - but great run and finish for his goal and vital defensive intervention at the end. The comment calling him a “Championship” player was one of the most dense posts I’ve seen on here.
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What's this fourth round that people are talking about us being in?
There’s a what now?
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Job done.
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For the 15-20 minutes we played we were exceptional. Not sure what game Dixon watched to pick his motm.
Slim pickings really.
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Buendia s best appaerance this season.
Yep. If we can get him buzzing then the extra depth and options could make big difference. Ramsey was class.
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Considering we went on to win, I feel a bit embarrassed to have been so critical but we were so poor in the first half. It's encouraging that as always Unai can tweak it and we do have gears we can move up to. Ramsay and Buendia did really well.
Glad/relieved we won and we're winning the Cup this year.
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Generally a pretty Blues oerformance.
The only plus point other than we won is that the squad players had a positive impact.
Considering how few appearances Ramsey had been able to make over the last year, he’s been involved in a lot of our better moments.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
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Rogers had a tough night - but great run and finish for his goal and vital defensive intervention at the end. The comment calling him a “Championship” player was one of the most dense posts I’ve seen on here.
He's being interviewed now. Blatantly has the lurgee. Get home and have a Lemsip, lad.
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I'm not sure I agree with some of the posts suggesting they played well, they were shit, just defended in numbers and tried to catch us on the break.
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After thinking it was our year for 50+ years ,now not thinking it is our year,maybe it's our year.
If you get my drift.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
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We play at a high tempo, we are top four. We play at that dreadful first half crap and we are bottom four. Buendia was superb, Onana played very well, Cash was good. Bailey and Tileman's were nowhere near it.
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First half dreadful.2nd half good enough to win. Spam were decent in first half, shite in 2nd half.
Wrighty unhappy - good. Tielemans should have had a corner a few mins earlier.
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Paqueta is a cheating little ******. Wonderful second goal. Probably needed a bit of luck, although the corner given makes up for the one that wasn't given, didn't moan about that one did they? We need more consistency, we need a bit more pace, we need more in the final third. Ramsey made a difference, Ned was solid. Good subs from Unai. Terrible first half, better second half. Rogers grew into the game, Maatsen played well throughout, Onana made a difference. We are through to round 4.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
I really can't pin their goal on Olsen - Konsa and Cash were culpable and Kamara to a lesser extent.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
You can question all you like. Not a cat in hell’s chance is Martinez saving that.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
He wouldn’t, there’s no way that’s on Olsen.
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The only plus point other than we won is that the squad players had a positive impact.
That’s a big positive for me. Proper competition and quality off the bench could win us vital points over the next four months.
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Typical us for the time being, conceding an goal early on as we are trying to get our grip on the game, not looking good or not creating much and then some much better and exiting periodes getting goals and then looking very shaky and not able to control a game at the end when leading even with not so good opponents at home. Did Olsen have a save? Next game I would start Rogers on the right and Ramsey left or vice versa.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
You have to learn to let it go friend. It's time.
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For the 15-20 minutes we played we were exceptional. Not sure what game Dixon watched to pick his motm.
Slim pickings really.
True, but he wasn't even the best left back in the game.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
He needs to play quarterback.
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Word for Ned who looked like he belonged for the first time. If he can step up then we only need to address the right wing urgently. Pleased for little Emi too.
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The only plus point other than we won is that the squad players had a positive impact.
That’s a big positive for me. Proper competition and quality off the bench could win us vital points over the next four months.
The fact all 4 of them did vey well is telling in itself.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
He wouldn’t, there’s no way that’s on Olsen.
Olsen didnt look that competent on the occasion either and did he have a save all game?
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We were the better team. It wasn't much of a spectacle, we didn't push much but when we changed up we had enough. Like good sides do.
Paqueta is an embarrassment.
Maatsen is going to be superb. Tielemans and Rogers took a long while to get going.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
Caused by their defender grabbing McNaughts elbow and pushing his arm up into the ball
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Actually thought we mostly controlled the first half without really threatening, and got done on the now customary sucker punch.
We continued to control the second half until things clicked into place in the space between the midfield and the forwards, and then we looked proper tasty.
All three later subs had a good impact - especially pleased for Buendia (always scores at Goodison, so bodes well), but Ramsey gave us another dimension. Ned, he’s a serious young chap, isn’t he?
Goldish stars also to Maatsen and Cash.
UTV!
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
I really can't pin their goal on Olsen - Konsa and Cash were culpable and Kamara to a lesser extent.
Not suggesting Olsen had any blame in the West Ham goal, I'm sure he did the best he could, what I'm saying is Martinez would possibly have made a better attempt, I certainly wouldn't suggest that Martinez would have guaranteed, kept it out, equally I wouldn't suggest there is no way he couldn't have saved it either.
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Considering we went on to win, I feel a bit embarrassed to have been so critical but we were so poor in the first half. It's encouraging that as always Unai can tweak it and we do have gears we can move up to. Ramsay and Buendia did really well.
Glad/relieved we won and we're winning the Cup this year.
Honestly don’t think Uni tweaked much. It was more a case that once West Ham lost Somerville they had to tweak but not in a good way for them. The non corner was the big turning point, but sometimes you need that bit of luck.
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Word for Ned who looked like he belonged for the first time. If he can step up then we only need to address the right wing urgently. Pleased for little Emi too.
Yes I also liked what Ned showed today.
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We should have had a corner five minutes earlier from Tielemans' shot, so fuck 'em.
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What's this fourth round that people are talking about us being in?
There’s a what now?
Erm....the same one we were in last season?
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
Caused by their defender grabbing McNaughts elbow and pushing his arm up into the ball
Not from my angle behind the goal
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No blame for Olsen for their goal, his passing was decent apart from when he passed it straight to them, but he flapped at every single cross.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
He needs to play quarterback.
Wrong sport altogether.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
Caused by their defender grabbing McNaughts elbow and pushing his arm up into the ball
Not from my angle behind the goal
I was behind the goal with my wife and we both saw (I think it was Alvin Martin) push McNaughts arm up into the path of the ball.
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Can someone explain what Cash did wrong for the goal because I've seen a few point at him but he was pretty clearly marking Fullkrug, it was Konsa who was behind play and ended up in no mans land.
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Ian Wright conveniently forgetting the corner we should have had just before. Sulky Pillock. I’m bored stiff with the same pundits jumping from channel to channel. At least we didn’t get fatty hyena
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First hour was awful , shocking. Then we woke up and realised we had a game tonight .
Credit and call outs to Buendia and Ramsey , gave us the thrust .
Bring on ManU (A)
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We should have had a corner five minutes earlier from Tielemans' shot, so fuck 'em.
No mention of it by Wrighty on TV for that.
Yes -shout out for Cash. Dropped a bit of bollock for goal, although Konsa worse. He showed lots tonight, never stopped but decision making behind and in front meant he was under utilised.
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For the 15-20 minutes we played we were exceptional. Not sure what game Dixon watched to pick his motm.
Slim pickings really.
Slim Pickings was my motm.
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Actually thought we mostly controlled the first half without really threatening, and got done on the now customary sucker punch.
We continued to control the second half until things clicked into place in the space between the midfield and the forwards, and then we looked proper tasty.
All three later subs had a good impact - especially pleased for Buendia (always scores at Goodison, so bodes well), but Ramsey gave us another dimension. Ned, he’s a serious young chap, isn’t he?
Goldish stars also to Maatsen and Cash.
UTV!
I’m happy with the result and the way we came back. But I wouldn’t get revisionist on this, we were utterly dreadful in the first half. I’d say West Ham controlled it, they got the lead and then sat in and we did nothing. We have to be much more proactive and stop gifting teams goals (we nearly gifted again at the end).
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We play at a high tempo, we are top four. We play at that dreadful first half crap and we are bottom four. Buendia was superb, Onana played very well, Cash was good. Bailey and Tileman's were nowhere near it.
100% agree Tiiemans worst performance for the Villa
Olsen also tried to ruin his showing with a dreadful flap towards the end
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Was out, so missed first hour. Got back in time to hear the cockney c**ts singing 'Champions League, you're having a laugh'. Seemed to wake us up.
Onwards and upwards.
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Anyone watch the Live Post Match stuff on X after the games? McInally is pretty good at chatting with the players, having a laugh with them...better than the sterile shite Sky and TNT serve up.
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First half was pretty awful. Second was better, from around 65-70 minutes in anyway. Got lucky with the corner but it's about time something went for us.
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Other than 15 minutes that was an appalling way to spend an evening. Absolutely freezing and a boring style of football which only works if we don’t give away an early goal, which we always do.
Still, maybe this is what it’s like to be massive, as we are now. Play shite, get a bit of luck, win the cup.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
He needs to play quarterback.
Wrong sport altogether.
I was thinking about this earlier. And I think that Onana was picked as Dougies replacement as he adds strength and tennaticy that Torres lacks. When Mings plays, I think we see Barkley or Teilemans there as they add the passing ability Mings lacks.
Basically - its pointless getting angery at Torres becuase hes not Mings, and Mings cos hes not Torres - but by picking the right midfield in front of them balances it.
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Other than 15 minutes that was an appalling way to spend an evening. Absolutely freezing and a boring style of football which only works if we don’t give away an early goal, which we always do.
Still, maybe this is what it’s like to be massive, as we are now. Play shite, get a bit of luck, win the cup.
Yeah, One things for sure I hope we take this cup seriously.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Cast iron corner a few mins before that wasn’t given
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Anyone watch the Live Post Match stuff on X after the games? McInally is pretty good at chatting with the players, having a laugh with them...better than the sterile shite Sky and TNT serve up.
I like McInally - think hes good at this stuff
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They pressed and harried for the first half
No way they would keep that up (trying to impress the new manager)
we waited and waited, stepped it up played more forward and behind and took control
game is over 90+ minutes not just the first 50 odd
oh and Ian Wright is a dinasour, sulky cockney, one eyed tw@t
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Actually thought we mostly controlled the first half without really threatening, and got done on the now customary sucker punch.
We continued to control the second half until things clicked into place in the space between the midfield and the forwards, and then we looked proper tasty.
All three later subs had a good impact - especially pleased for Buendia (always scores at Goodison, so bodes well), but Ramsey gave us another dimension. Ned, he’s a serious young chap, isn’t he?
Goldish stars also to Maatsen and Cash.
UTV!
I’m happy with the result and the way we came back. But I wouldn’t get revisionist on this, we were utterly dreadful in the first half. I’d say West Ham controlled it, they got the lead and then sat in and we did nothing. We have to be much more proactive and stop gifting teams goals (we nearly gifted again at the end).
Think we’re more or less saying the same thing. We had most of the possession (controlled the ball), without threatening as the Spammers sat back very deeply. Didn’t think we were great by any means, but we did mostly control the play.
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Hopefully we play a lower league side next. Wouldnt mind cardiff
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Either by design or by circumstance , Mings and Konsa must be the slowest build up from defence in the league.
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A really poor game until we sprung into life. Paqueta MOTM for me, wonderful display of comedy from the lad. A good advert for VAR, so many incorrect decisions by the officials. When we decide to turn it on offensively we are a real handful. Great atmosphere tonight too.
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Actually thought we mostly controlled the first half without really threatening, and got done on the now customary sucker punch.
We continued to control the second half until things clicked into place in the space between the midfield and the forwards, and then we looked proper tasty.
All three later subs had a good impact - especially pleased for Buendia (always scores at Goodison, so bodes well), but Ramsey gave us another dimension. Ned, he’s a serious young chap, isn’t he?
Goldish stars also to Maatsen and Cash.
UTV!
I’m happy with the result and the way we came back. But I wouldn’t get revisionist on this, we were utterly dreadful in the first half. I’d say West Ham controlled it, they got the lead and then sat in and we did nothing. We have to be much more proactive and stop gifting teams goals (we nearly gifted again at the end).
I would say that they rarely troubled us - they were better first half but offered very little.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
He needs to play quarterback.
Wrong sport altogether.
Villa in Denmark….are you in a surf band? I know a Danish Villa fan who is.
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Anyone watch the Live Post Match stuff on X after the games? McInally is pretty good at chatting with the players, having a laugh with them...better than the sterile shite Sky and TNT serve up.
I like McInally - think hes good at this stuff
Aye he is, good to see him working for the club, proper down to earth bloke.
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Anyone watch the Live Post Match stuff on X after the games? McInally is pretty good at chatting with the players, having a laugh with them...better than the sterile shite Sky and TNT serve up.
I like McInally - think hes good at this stuff
Aye he is, good to see him working for the club, proper down to earth bloke.
Im biased cos he once liked one of my twitter posts. About football - not elon musk still ones.
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Either by design or by circumstance , Mings and Konsa must be the slowest build up from defence in the league.
They take too many touches in getting the ball out of their feet, which means we have less of the kind of thrust that Torres gives us.
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Looking forward to United away in round 4 already.
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Watched it in a bar in the Canary Islands. Probably the least Sky Sports type bar I’ve ever been in overseas. No football shirts but a few customers could have been either side based on their polo shirts. As it turned out the only noise was for our goals.
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Either by design or by circumstance , Mings and Konsa must be the slowest build up from defence in the league.
They take too many touches in getting the ball out of their feet, which means we have less of the kind of thrust that Torres gives us.
I think thats why Barkley started rather than Onnana
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Sounded a great atmosphere on the telly, fair play to all those who attended.
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I can watch FA Cup football this weekend. The first time in ages I’ll have given a fuck about this competition.
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Considering we went on to win, I feel a bit embarrassed to have been so critical but we were so poor in the first half. It's encouraging that as always Unai can tweak it and we do have gears we can move up to. Ramsay and Buendia did really well.
Glad/relieved we won and we're winning the Cup this year.
Honestly don’t think Uni tweaked much. It was more a case that once West Ham lost Somerville they had to tweak but not in a good way for them. The non corner was the big turning point, but sometimes you need that bit of luck.
We were denied a cast iron corner minutes before…
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We were largely awful , but with better leadership on the pitch we held it together and got the job done . Too many times this season we lose that game with a lack of resilience. We hung in allowed them to tire and got the two goals , that said again we had chances to put that firmly to bed, Rogers final ball is generally poor , he had chances to put Watkins in , same with Maatsen and Tielemans should have put Bailey clear . That said other than the goal they didn't really have any other clear chances for that we have to credit the backline .
Ned best performance for us . Hope his confidence grows
Olsen has to be moved on , he's a liability.
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I can watch FA Cup football this weekend. The first time in ages I’ll have given a fuck about this competition.
I find that the big advantage when Villa wins - Im interested in other football. Normally when we lose I avoid it for a couple days cos it just reminds me we lost.
A big weekend of football awaits and I couldnt be happier.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
Caused by their defender grabbing McNaughts elbow and pushing his arm up into the ball
Correctamundo.
And the the Met's finest stood and watched as the Cockernees piled in, before intervening to only nick Vills fans.
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The only thing that matters in cup football is to get through.The rest is window dressing.
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Very happy! Stopped off at Tyburn House on way home for a celebratory pint!
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Can we wear our lucky black FA Cup shirts all the way to the final?
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Re corners given, I can't think of a worse decision, there was no West Ham player anywhere near the ball, but who cares, the great thing is, we took full advantage of our luck. The winning goal was quality and thought Buendia and Ramsey were class.
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Looking at the BBC stats on my phone during the match.
First half Villa 0 shots, West Ham 5 shots two on target.
At 68 mins we had 5 with 0 on target, they still had 5-2.
Close to 90 we 15 with 5 on target, they had 6-2.
We allowed loads of wild hits in stoppage time though as it was 16-5 and 11-2.
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Very happy! Stopped off at Tyburn House on way home for a celebratory pint!
I hope you did t get hung, drawn and quartered!
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Let’s hope that’s the last time we have the opposition in our stand
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I'm not sure I agree with some of the posts suggesting they played well, they were shit, just defended in numbers and tried to catch us on the break.
Just home. I agree, we were terrible first half, but other than the first 10 mins they were shit for the whole game and got shitter as it went on.
Between about 60-80 mins we completely blew them away. Second half was also the best atmosphere down there this season other than the Bayern game. We have a way to go to get our form of last season back, but Ramsey/Maatsen down there left could be season defining for us.
Chuffed to be in the hat.
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Our name’s on the fcuker
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Any ideas of the attendance?
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Re corners given, I can't think of a worse decision, there was no West Ham player anywhere near the ball, but who cares, the great thing is, we took full advantage of our luck. The winning goal was quality and thought Buendia and Ramsey were class.
Ref thought it had come off the head of the one somewhere in the middle who jumped to head it. He wouldn't have the angle for a sure thing though, but the match pretty much showed swings and roundabouts with one not given a few mins beforehand.
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None of our players appealed for it and were all legging it back, shocking (hilarious) decision.
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It was an awful decision, but no worse than the one 2 minutes before that took a clear deflection and he gave a goal kick. I really hope that doesn't get forgotten in all the reports.
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As bad as we were in the first half I thought the tweak to drop Kamara to RCB and Tielemans deeper in the build up made a big difference, and we were good second half, well worth the win in the end.
Really really like the look of the Rogers-JJ-Maatsen combination down the left hand side. That will rip some teams apart over the coming months.
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It was an awful decision, but no worse than the one 2 minutes before that took a clear deflection and he gave a goal kick. I really hope that doesn't get forgotten in all the reports.
Its funnier to just allow opposition fans and pundits to get wound up by it.
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None of our players appealed for it and were all legging it back, shocking (hilarious) decision.
If we win the cup, they'll still be talking about it on SHA in 2050.
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Tielemans dropping back opened up the field for us with his range of passing
To me, this was the key. It wasn’t so much that Tielemans was bad in the first half, he couldn’t get on the ball to make those passes - and when he did get it it was in a congested last third.
He needs to play quarterback.
Wrong sport altogether.
Villa in Denmark….are you in a surf band? I know a Danish Villa fan who is.
Not me fella.
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We can't let Kosta out this window unless we've a better RB than Cash coming in. Looked positive again, even in the knowledge he's up at 5 for his paper round in the morning.
Mings often not decisive with the ball, but the movement in front of him wasn't great too.
When you pass through the lines, it's miraculous how space opens up.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
You have to learn to let it go friend. It's time.
And the non-penalty on the opening day.
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It was an awful decision, but no worse than the one 2 minutes before that took a clear deflection and he gave a goal kick. I really hope that doesn't get forgotten in all the reports.
The ITV highlights show Tielemans not getting his. BBC doesn't though.
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Massive block from Ned at the end and a few important clearances. Will do his confidence the world of good!
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
You have to learn to let it go friend. It's time.
And the non-penalty on the opening day.
And the fact Vidic didnt get sent off
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Everything I predicted was coming true until that corner. I lost my shit at Onana geeing up the crowd, I hate that. We've been at work all day, paid to get it in, and you ask for more from us????
He then shoved those words down my throat and off we went. So I'm claiming a big part in the win!
When we give it a go we can live with anyone, and we need to do it more in the 2nd half of the season.
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Really good to see Buendia looking razor sharp when he came on, and Ramsey just balances us more than any other single player.
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Buendia s best appaerance this season.
Very good, delighted for him.
Great turnaround win, first half as bad as it gets.
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Happy birthday to us. Me and the kids had a great time. Well done Villa for the whole occasion - so much better than the centenary game.
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Got Peter Kay tickets for Mr Amfy for tonight before the draw was even made, so was never going to be at this one.
At the interval I put itv x on my phone, saw that we were 1-0 down, saw us score 2 goals, and Peter Kay came back on to the tune of 'Spirit in the Sky (Matty Cash) before I even saw the replay.
Turned my phone back off & hoped I didn't need to be watching for us to win it!
Switched back on and we're in the hat!
Happy Days!
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Thawing out at home now. I'm deciding whether if it was colder tonight at the ground than last Saturday or not.
Actually Winning a home 3rd round FA Cup tie: it's our year, I'm telling you!
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Never in dobut. Fuck Sullivan and Co
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Great that it was packed, families with kids everywhere. Lesson learned with the pricing, we need to do this for all domestic cup games. It's the chance for fans to go that otherwise wouldn't, not just due to the lack of tickets but the cost.
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It was an awful decision, but no worse than the one 2 minutes before that took a clear deflection and he gave a goal kick. I really hope that doesn't get forgotten in all the reports.
Its funnier to just allow opposition fans and pundits to get wound up by it.
No one seems to be mentioning that they cleared the corner and the keeper saved it then let it roll softly away to be tapped n the net. It maybe was a mistake by the ref but they need to look at themselves as well.
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They've had two soft as shite penalties against us down there since Emery has been manager, they can get fucked moaning about a non-corner.
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They've had two soft as shite penalties against us down there since Emery has been manager, they can get fucked moaning about a non-corner.
Is the correct answer.
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Olsen =>
Tielemans =>
Buendia =>
Watkins =>
Rogers => 4th round
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Not pretty . Not warm . It's a game we would have lost previously
Played shite mostly and won , got to take it and enjoy and move on .
Hope we get a good draw . Maybe it's our year. We owed them from 1981
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I hope it’s a long, cold, miserable journey home for the West Ham fan who sat in my seat.
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The non-corner makes up for the non-penalty back in the day.
Justice for Ken McNaught.
Fuck the Cockernee twats
Why do you say that? It was a blatant hand ball.
Caused by their defender grabbing McNaughts elbow and pushing his arm up into the ball
Correctamundo.
And the the Met's finest stood and watched as the Cockernees piled in, before intervening to only nick Vills fans.
What a game. A bloke next to me got smashed in the face with a bottle and there was fighting everywhere, all game. Got home without a scratch and got beat up by skinheads in Digbeth.
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Got back a few mins ago.
1st half, we played like a Southgate England side, 2nd half, much better but we need to finish teams off. Both vs Leicester and tonight, had chances to score a 3rd. Rogers must have had kick up the arse at half time as a few others, we seemed to be our old selves 2nd half.
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Awful first half, much better second half. Not really much else to say is there. When’s the draw?
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Special mention for Paqueta , what a theatrical wanker he is !!
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Agent Potter was quite complimentary after the game , he loves us in reality .
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Great that the place was full, great to see so many kids who don’t normally go giving it their all. There was an Asian Dad and his 7 or 8 year old lad close to me. The young lad shouting his head off in support of the Villa in probably his first game.
Yes, first half, as has been said was awful the 2nd much improved and improved further with the subs. JJ and Emi were very good. Those of you wanting Emi moved on earlier in the week hang your heads in shame, he was like his old self and will be an asset for the rest of the season playing at that level.
I enjoyed the occasion, and result but one thing irks me. We have so many staff doing ancillary stuff with the players and, who do it well, but we don’t have anyone it seems who can advise those players on what boots to wear. If you’re wearing moulded soles on your feet there’s every chance you will slip on a frosty surface with the temperature at -4. The players should have been in studded boots, more of them would have stayed on their feet then.
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We were poor for the first hour, we made a bang average side look half decent. Once we came alive there was only one winner though.
Once Ings came on they had no competent outlet up the field and Konsa / Mings had acres of space to operate….the fact there was so little movement from the midfield to take the ball from them was not good.
Paqueta is an embarrassment of a footballer…snivelling, diving cheat
Referee needs to go to specsavers :-)
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It’s just nice to already be in the draw for the fourth round before the bulk of games even take place. Unusual feeling - quite like it.
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Not pretty . Not warm . It's a game we would have lost previously
Played shite mostly and won , got to take it and enjoy and move on .
Hope we get a good draw . Maybe it's our year. We owed them from 1981
8th March, 1980
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
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Not pretty . Not warm . It's a game we would have lost previously
Played shite mostly and won , got to take it and enjoy and move on .
Hope we get a good draw . Maybe it's our year. We owed them from 1981
8th March, 1980
Never in dobut. Fuck Sullivan and Co
Was amazed to learn that they aren't nice people to work for
Can see the Gold family home from our bedroom window
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Poor in the first, gradually built some momentum in the 2nd and then had an excellent 20 or so minutes which won us the game. A couple of nervy moments at the end when we didn't deal very well with some balls into the box, but we're in the next round.
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we got away with that one last night, let's hope the draw is a good one for the next round - we're not used to being this deep in the FA cup.
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I thought Olsen had a good game. He had a couple of issues with his distribution, but Emi’s prone to those on occasion too.
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The manager has to ditch this god awful slow tempo crap and we revert to how we play best, hitting teams hard and fast with three or four forward passes. That first half last night was painful.
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The manager has to ditch this god awful slow tempo crap and we revert to how we play best, hitting teams hard and fast with three or four forward passes. That first half last night was painful.
The first half was turgid. Maybe this slower approach reflects the fact that we have so many more games now, and perhaps to avoid the injurpocalypse of last season from reoccurring. The high line has gone too. Great coaches do evolve their teams over the course of time so that they don't' get 'found out' (a term I actually hate).
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Let's be honest, when we play that slow, we get found out but yes, I've felt for a while now that he feels we have to play that slow due to the amount of games we have but it's awful to watch and I still think it breeds a casual like attitude in the players.
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The manager has to ditch this god awful slow tempo crap and we revert to how we play best, hitting teams hard and fast with three or four forward passes. That first half last night was painful.
The first half was turgid. Maybe this slower approach reflects the fact that we have so many more games now, and perhaps to avoid the injurpocalypse of last season from reoccurring. The high line has gone too. Great coaches do evolve their teams over the course of time so that they don't' get 'found out' (a term I actually hate).
McGinn already out for weeks abd Barkleys looked fairly serious last night. We’re down to 4 main midfielders now (Kamara, Onana, Tielemans, Ramsey) and 5 more games in January to come, 6 maybe if the cup 4th rd is in Jan?
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Hopefully someone at the Villa takes note that sensibly priced tickets and cheap beer equals a full house and a decent atmosphere. Lots of youngsters sat by us who were clearly having a great time, a more ethically diverse crowd than I’ve ever seen at VP too which is fantastic to see.
As for events on the pitch. A horrible first half but we stepped it up when we needed to and won fairly comfortably in the end. The better side has gone through is all that matters.
It’s our year this year. Please God.
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The manager has to ditch this god awful slow tempo crap and we revert to how we play best, hitting teams hard and fast with three or four forward passes. That first half last night was painful.
The first half was turgid. Maybe this slower approach reflects the fact that we have so many more games now, and perhaps to avoid the injurpocalypse of last season from reoccurring. The high line has gone too. Great coaches do evolve their teams over the course of time so that they don't' get 'found out' (a term I actually hate).
I was talking about this last night with my son and I think Emery is trying to evolve the play this season to a more possession/pressure based game and we’re struggling to adapt due to the number of games. However when it works as per second half we can look sensational.
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West Ham fans moaning about the corner.
Well, tough shit. We should have had one before that anyway.
When we upped the pace we looked much better.
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In fairness we’d be moaning about the corner too, regardless if the previous decision was balanced out.
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Onana should always have started, we needed more physicality and he played well against them first game of the season. Bailey was shocking and just didn’t seem to fancy it. Subs made the difference, Ramsey, Emi and Ned were great. I like the way Maatsen and JJ link up. We’re through!
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We were poor for the first hour, we made a bang average side look half decent. Once we came alive there was only one winner though.
Once Ings came on they had no competent outlet up the field and Konsa / Mings had acres of space to operate….the fact there was so little movement from the midfield to take the ball from them was not good.
Paqueta is an embarrassment of a footballer…snivelling, diving cheat
Referee needs to go to specsavers :-)
Yes our former player Ings did not look like what he was as a player more closer to be ready for retirement
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Not very good first half better second half.
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Any news on ross's injury ? Midfielders dropping like flies atm. One plus from last night was buendia's performance ...looked lively and linked up well and played a couple of nice passes thru
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
A strategically positioned hat stand could have nullified Bailey in the first half.
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We were poor for the first hour, we made a bang average side look half decent. Once we came alive there was only one winner though.
Once Ings came on they had no competent outlet up the field and Konsa / Mings had acres of space to operate….the fact there was so little movement from the midfield to take the ball from them was not good.
Paqueta is an embarrassment of a footballer…snivelling, diving cheat
Referee needs to go to specsavers :-)
Yes our former player Ings did not look like what he was as a player more closer to be ready for retirement
Ings was a complete passenger when he came on. Caught on his heels when Olsen spilled a shot in the first half. Think his time at PL level is over.
Summerville was excellent in the first half. Potter has some very good attacking players to work with including Pacqueta.
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
A strategically positioned hat stand could have nullified Bailey in the first half.
He got tackled, not hard just the ball knicked away in the first 10 minutes and stayed in a heap on the floor and I thought "here we go, he doesn't fancy this".
Needs a spell out to sort out his injuries and head.
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Interesting game tactically. We went to Emery v1.0 in the second half with Kamara dropping into the back three in possession and we started making inroads down the right winning corners and getting crosses in.
I like the look of Kosta, reminds me a bit of Mark Delaney. I wonder if the plan is to sign a RB in this window then sell Cash in June for PSR (To Everton maybe?). Keeping Kosta as the reserve next year.
Tielemans was off it, he had a couple of chances to play balls through similar to Buendia’s pass for the second goal. Emi2 made a difference there. Ramsey and Maatsen should be starting against weaker teams at home.
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In fairness we’d be moaning about the corner too, regardless if the previous decision was balanced out.
I’d have been moaning, but then I’d have moaned more about how it was dealt with. Especially if one of our own players was rolling around acting like he’d been punched because he couldn’t be bothered to track his man.
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Massive block from Ned at the end and a few important clearances. Will do his confidence the world of good!
Ned also had a good cross from the sideline, tele pictures showing Emery applauding straight after the cross.
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West Ham was always going to be up for it from the off after the buzz of appointing Potter, it was expected. I thought for so long it was going to be one of those games where we have the ball without really testing them. It’s so hard against these low blocks when a goal down. It was a really tough first half.
We done well in the end to turn it around and we had some much needed luck, which was due at some point.
In the hat for the fourth round, amazing, forgot what a FA Cup win feels like.
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Not pretty . Not warm . It's a game we would have lost previously
Played shite mostly and won , got to take it and enjoy and move on .
Hope we get a good draw . Maybe it's our year. We owed them from 1981
8th March, 1980
Never in dobut. Fuck Sullivan and Co
Was amazed to learn that they aren't nice people to work for
Can see the Gold family home from our bedroom window
Nice - I take it they have a place on your grounds
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Awful first half. much better second. Emi B made some nice passes when he came on but that is a game to quickly forget.
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Kit looks better and better. It's a shame the FA/Emirates insisted on their patch on the sleeve and didn't act in good faith as Betano did.
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In fairness we’d be moaning about the corner too, regardless if the previous decision was balanced out.
I’d have been moaning, but then I’d have moaned more about how it was dealt with. Especially if one of our own players was rolling around acting like he’d been punched because he couldn’t be bothered to track his man.
They'll card players (sometimes even red card) for an overjubilant goal celebration.
But they'll let shite like that fly. Priorities.
A few red cards for that prat and he'd soon stop.
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Ian Wright conveniently forgetting the corner we should have had just before. Sulky Pillock. I’m bored stiff with the same pundits jumping from channel to channel. At least we didn’t get fatty hyena
No idea why Keane and Wright are everywhere. Give someone else a go and get some fresh perspective
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
A strategically positioned hat stand could have nullified Bailey in the first half.
He got tackled, not hard just the ball knicked away in the first 10 minutes and stayed in a heap on the floor and I thought "here we go, he doesn't fancy this".
Needs a spell out to sort out his injuries and head.
Agreed. It was probably a bit too cold or something. If this Malen character turns up, I'd be very surprised if Bailey doesn't end up in 'impact sub' territory.
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Ian Wright conveniently forgetting the corner we should have had just before. Sulky Pillock. I’m bored stiff with the same pundits jumping from channel to channel. At least we didn’t get fatty hyena
No idea why Keane and Wright are everywhere. Give someone else a go and get some fresh perspective
Totally agree more rotation required . Lee Dixon is another one .
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FA Cup is so much more enjoyable when you're still in it....
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To play that badly for 60 mins and end up winning is remarkable as we were dreadful particularly in first half. Got better as later stages went on but man we were bad.
Only thing that matters we are in the hat next round. No doubt it will manure or liverpool next. Good to get a rest before Wednesday game too.
We really need to start games better because as keane said we were rubbidh 1st half. Embarrassing at times
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Happy birthday to us. Me and the kids had a great time. Well done Villa for the whole occasion - so much better than the centenary game.
I was at the centenary game v Leeds. Lost2-1. Graydon missed 2 pens
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
A strategically positioned hat stand could have nullified Bailey in the first half.
He got tackled, not hard just the ball knicked away in the first 10 minutes and stayed in a heap on the floor and I thought "here we go, he doesn't fancy this".
Needs a spell out to sort out his injuries and head.
Agreed. It was probably a bit too cold or something. If this Malen character turns up, I'd be very surprised if Bailey doesn't end up in 'impact sub' territory.
That must have been the one where he was off the pitch feigning injury. No one was having it, the game carried on without him. I half expected an announcement on the tannoy to bleat out “get up you wanker”
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Ian Wright conveniently forgetting the corner we should have had just before. Sulky Pillock. I’m bored stiff with the same pundits jumping from channel to channel. At least we didn’t get fatty hyena
No idea why Keane and Wright are everywhere. Give someone else a go and get some fresh perspective
Totally agree more rotation required . Lee Dixon is another one .
Lee Dixon is bloody awful.
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Steve Strides not happy
Never got a invite to the 150 match after all his services
Poor show really
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Steve Strides not happy
Never got a invite to the 150 match after all his services
Poor show really
Disgusting..sorry Steve
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Ian Wright conveniently forgetting the corner we should have had just before. Sulky Pillock. I’m bored stiff with the same pundits jumping from channel to channel. At least we didn’t get fatty hyena
No idea why Keane and Wright are everywhere. Give someone else a go and get some fresh perspective
Totally agree more rotation required . Lee Dixon is another one .
Lee Dixon is bloody awful.
The worse of the lot is Ally McCoist.
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that's poor - Stride would be a better CEO at Villa than anyone running the place currently there
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Steve Strides not happy
Never got a invite to the 150 match after all his services
Poor show really
Yes, that’s a bit shit.
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that's poor - Stride would be a better CEO at Villa than anyone running the place currently there
Couldn't agree more: shocking business!
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A lot of non-regulars at the match it seemed. Around me there were a few bringing their kids and other halves. Good to see.
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That's very poor not to invite Steve Stride. I know they couldn't invite everyone but he's one that should have been on the list.
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Steve Strides not happy
Never got a invite to the 150 match after all his services
Poor show really
Yes, that’s a bit shit.
We used to get this stuff right.
Poor.
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
All of that is just nonsense.
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
All the old players are ex-employees too.
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It's a shame Steve Stride didn't get an invite and that's he's gone to social media . I take he's not a ST holder or regular attender anymore
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He’s sometimes pictured in hospitality with former players and managers and Geezer Butler etc.
He was never a big one for the history and traditions of the Club but he was a great servant to the Club.
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Any news on ross's injury ? Midfielders dropping like flies atm. One plus from last night was buendia's performance ...looked lively and linked up well and played a couple of nice passes thru
Calf injury. Out for “two or three weeks” acccording to some post-match quotes from Unai.
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A lot of non-regulars at the match it seemed. Around me there were a few bringing their kids and other halves. Good to see.
For part timers like me, it's a lot easier to get tickets for Cup games.
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
All the old players are ex-employees too.
Correct. Did every ex player receive an invite? Did every ex employee, board member etc receive an invite?
No. I understand Steve Stride is a bit annoyed, but I’m sure he’ll get over it.
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
All the old players are ex-employees too.
Correct. Did every ex player receive an invite? Did every ex employee, board member etc receive an invite?
No. I understand Steve Stride is a bit annoyed, but I’m sure he’ll get over it.
If you don't understand why Steve Stride should have got an invite, then you are either young or don't know your club's history very well.
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Did purslow get a invite?
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Any reason why Nigel Spink is rarely seen when they wheel out the 82 legends
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Steve Stride, when he was working for the club, would have made sure someone with his sort of association with the club from previous years would have an invitation. Hope that names sense.
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I’ve got nothing against Steve Stride, he spent 35 years as an employee at Villa and resigned 18 years ago, I know he did a lot for the club
I just can’t quite get my head around the sense of entitlement he seems to have.
They couldn’t invite everyone, he didn't make the cut.
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Any player whose service to the club could have been described as even course to Stride's would've got an invitation.
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I’ve got nothing against Steve Stride, he spent 35 years as an employee at Villa and resigned 18 years ago, I know he did a lot for the club
I just can’t quite get my head around the sense of entitlement he seems to have.
They couldn’t invite everyone, he didn't make the cut.
If you don't get it, then you don't get it.
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Just had a look at the attendance, a near full house on a flipping freezing cold night, is pretty good.
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Maybe he’ll get an invite to the next one now he’s had a cry about it.
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Maybe he’ll get an invite to the next one now he’s had a cry about it.
Oh dear. I suggest you come back when you know your own club.
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Just had a look at the attendance, a near full house on a flipping freezing cold night, is pretty good.
Cheap prices and then Heck dedicating it to the 150 probably got a lot more in.
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that's poor - Stride would be a better CEO at Villa than anyone running the place currently there
Couldn't agree more: shocking business!
Stride inside the Villa
Strive outside it
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I enjoyed the occasion, and result but one thing irks me. We have so many staff doing ancillary stuff with the players and, who do it well, but we don’t have anyone it seems who can advise those players on what boots to wear. If you’re wearing moulded soles on your feet there’s every chance you will slip on a frosty surface with the temperature at -4. The players should have been in studded boots, more of them would have stayed on their feet then.
Not just the club's employees. You'd think whoever at Nike or whichever brand who chucks money at the top players to wear their boots, would be having a word in their ears about different soles for different surfaces. Kids are hardly going to go into Sports Direct and pester their parents to buy them the same boots that Leon Bailey falls over in every five minutes.
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Maybe he’ll get an invite to the next one now he’s had a cry about it.
Why so snarky? Lack of generosity of spirit seems out of proportion
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I think I would have given their young lb MOTM had he stayed on a bit later. He owned Bailey in that first half and pretty much nullified our right
A strategically positioned hat stand could have nullified Bailey in the first half.
He got tackled, not hard just the ball knicked away in the first 10 minutes and stayed in a heap on the floor and I thought "here we go, he doesn't fancy this".
Needs a spell out to sort out his injuries and head.
Agreed. It was probably a bit too cold or something. If this Malen character turns up, I'd be very surprised if Bailey doesn't end up in 'impact sub' territory.
He's played himself out of the side with that performance last night.
A shame, as I thought there were signs of recovery last week.
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Nevermind, Steve. I'm sure you'll get an invitation when MK Dons celebrate an anniversary of their 1988 Cup win.
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Looking at the photos from the game, I think the jersey looks great on the players that wore long sleeve base layers underneath. A proper long sleeve version would have been epic.
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They didn't invite that miserable bastard in the ticket office in the 90's with the bumfluff moustache either.
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Looking at the photos from the game, I think the jersey looks great on the players that wore long sleeve base layers underneath. A proper long sleeve version would have been epic.
I always think that about all Villa shirts. The blue sleeves don’t have the same effect next to a claret body unless they are long!
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Always the best way to win a game, to come from behind.
Re:Steve Stride, he’s an ex-employee, he could have bought a ticket if he really wanted to go to the match.
It’s like wanting to be invited to the Christmas party of the company you worked for years ago.
Move on, if you really want to be there, just turn up.
Anyway 4th round, yay.
UTV
Sorry mate but that's bollocks. Steve Stride was an absolute stalwart at Villa Park through the good times and the bad times. Of course he could've bought a ticket like the rest of us but he's not like the rest of us is he? He put his all into running the club and he's got his own chapter in our history. Of course he got paid as an employee for doing that just like Ron Saunders did, and Paul Mcgrath, Peter Withe, Gary Shaw and even William McGregor. They were all employees weren't they but they're all club legends. His contribution might not be up there with such greats but he absolutely deserved some recognition and an invitation should have been forthcoming. I like to think that we're a club that has always had a touch of class about us but ignoring Steve Stride last night showed a distinct lack of class from the current employees at Villa Park.
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They didn't invite that miserable bastard in the ticket office in the 90's with the bumfluff moustache either.
Ha ha , forgot all about that surly chap . I wonder if he still has a public facing role or realised he wasn't really a people person.
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I’d like to think it wasn’t done on purpose just overlooked
it wouldn’t have anything to do with Heck he’s only been here 5 minutes and wouldn’t know who to invite, maybe just a human error hopefully
( I don’t think Wolfie or Tarzan got one either)
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Was God there? Didn't see him.
On the match, I am annoyed with myself that I got sucked into the negativity in the first half. I usually stay positive.
Second half we turned it on and swept them aside.
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They didn't invite that miserable bastard in the ticket office in the 90's with the bumfluff moustache either.
Ha ha , forgot all about that surly chap . I wonder if he still has a public facing role or realised he wasn't really a people person.
One thing's for certain, he was never going to be the public face of Gillette.
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Point of order: William McGregor wrote a widely circulated argument about why club directors/committee members should not be paid. We revived it back in the day to fling insults at Doug. Didn't necessarily agree they shouldn't be paid, but you take the ammunition available.
I loved Rogers' comment after the match when he was given a softball of: "Another comeback win, what does that say about the character of the side?"
"We need to stop conceding early goals."
I like our players.
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They didn't invite that miserable bastard in the ticket office in the 90's with the bumfluff moustache either.
Ha ha , forgot all about that surly chap . I wonder if he still has a public facing role or realised he wasn't really a people person.
He died about twenty years ago.
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I’d like to think it wasn’t done on purpose just overlooked
it wouldn’t have anything to do with Heck he’s only been here 5 minutes and wouldn’t know who to invite, maybe just a human error hopefully
( I don’t think Wolfie or Tarzan got one either)
Thats what i think too. Very doubtful it was done deliberately
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Thought it was a great turnaround win, atmosphere seemed to be cracking too. I think our squad will
have benefitted far more from our approach last night rather than the league cup non effort v Palace. Great impact off the bench again, Kosta best cameo for us by a long way. First half was diabolical, play like that against a decent side and we will be battered.
Olsen 6 - solid enough but fortunate to get away with semi spilling a shot in first half and punch at end wasn't hectic. But he was ok
Cash 7 - our best player in first half, key to getting us back into it too, great cross to Watkins at one stage.
Konsa 5 - dreadful for their goal, will have tougher tests than Ings and did improve. But his form is a worry, really poor with ball at his feet. Not sure where he was at the end either as Kosta seemed very isolated for that block
Mings 6 - came for a routine header in first seconds and missed it. Struggled to release Maatsen down the left to the groans of the crowd. Improved but tougher tests ahead.
Maatsen 5 - roasted by Summerville in the first half and fortunate he limped off. Looked better with Ramsey but not doing enough to move Digne out of the team.
Kamara 7 - struggled early on but settled into a solid performance again.
Barkley/Onana 6 - Barkley struggled early on until limping off, took Onana a long time to get into the game. Needs to do more
Bailey 5 - getting bullied by a kid in first half was embarrassing really, improved a bit in second half but failed to build on his goal v Leicester
Rogers 6 - awful first half performance where he gave Maatsen no support and gave ball away constantly. Carbon copy winner to Bailey's last week and did brilliantly to cut out a possible equaliser at end. Was decent on right.
Tielemans 5 - struggled again to make an impression in what should be his best position. Bit more prominent when he dropped back
Watkins 6 - long way from his best at the moment. Thought he summed up our performance. Asleep in first half for a possible tap in when Bailey squared it. Dragged himself into the game and a cracking assist.
Ramsey - rocket of a shot and very lively, Buendia and Kosta best cameos this season. Emery will be happy with all three.
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Thought it was a great turnaround win, atmosphere seemed to be cracking too. I think our squad will
have benefitted far more from our approach last night rather than the league cup non effort v Palace. Great impact off the bench again, Kosta best cameo for us by a long way. First half was diabolical, play like that against a decent side and we will be battered.
Olsen 6 - solid enough but fortunate to get away with semi spilling a shot in first half and punch at end wasn't hectic. But he was ok
Cash 7 - our best player in first half, key to getting us back into it too, great cross to Watkins at one stage.
Konsa 5 - dreadful for their goal, will have tougher tests than Ings and did improve. But his form is a worry, really poor with ball at his feet. Not sure where he was at the end either as Kosta seemed very isolated for that block
Mings 6 - came for a routine header in first seconds and missed it. Struggled to release Maatsen down the left to the groans of the crowd. Improved but tougher tests ahead.
Maatsen 5 - roasted by Summerville in the first half and fortunate he limped off. Looked better with Ramsey but not doing enough to move Digne out of the team.
Kamara 7 - struggled early on but settled into a solid performance again.
Barkley/Onana 6 - Barkley struggled early on until limping off, took Onana a long time to get into the game. Needs to do more
Bailey 5 - getting bullied by a kid in first half was embarrassing really, improved a bit in second half but failed to build on his goal v Leicester
Rogers 6 - awful first half performance where he gave Maatsen no support and gave ball away constantly. Carbon copy winner to Bailey's last week and did brilliantly to cut out a possible equaliser at end. Was decent on right.
Tielemans 5 - struggled again to make an impression in what should be his best position. Bit more prominent when he dropped back
Watkins 6 - long way from his best at the moment. Thought he summed up our performance. Asleep in first half for a possible tap in when Bailey squared it. Dragged himself into the game and a cracking assist.
Ramsey - rocket of a shot and very lively, Buendia and Kosta best cameos this season. Emery will be happy with all three.
Your assessment of Maatsen is way out. He was probably our MoM overall.
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Tielemans 5 - struggled again to make an impression in what should be his best position. Bit more prominent when he dropped back
Thing with Youri is that he can be devastating in both roles, deep and advanced. When he is blunt in the deep role, there’s much clamour to move him higher up the pitch, and vice versa. So it strikes me that the trick is to maintain enough flexibility in our formation so he can move to where he can do the most damage, depending on how the opposition is set up (to stop him).
On a side note, I was quite surprised to see him stay on for the full 90 (in this and other games), as to me he seems to run on fumes after 75 or 80 minutes, and his fatigue can be a bit of a liability when we’re looking to retain possession and run the clock down.
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Thought it was a great turnaround win, atmosphere seemed to be cracking too. I think our squad will
have benefitted far more from our approach last night rather than the league cup non effort v Palace. Great impact off the bench again, Kosta best cameo for us by a long way. First half was diabolical, play like that against a decent side and we will be battered.
Olsen 6 - solid enough but fortunate to get away with semi spilling a shot in first half and punch at end wasn't hectic. But he was ok
Cash 7 - our best player in first half, key to getting us back into it too, great cross to Watkins at one stage.
Konsa 5 - dreadful for their goal, will have tougher tests than Ings and did improve. But his form is a worry, really poor with ball at his feet. Not sure where he was at the end either as Kosta seemed very isolated for that block
Mings 6 - came for a routine header in first seconds and missed it. Struggled to release Maatsen down the left to the groans of the crowd. Improved but tougher tests ahead.
Maatsen 5 - roasted by Summerville in the first half and fortunate he limped off. Looked better with Ramsey but not doing enough to move Digne out of the team.
Kamara 7 - struggled early on but settled into a solid performance again.
Barkley/Onana 6 - Barkley struggled early on until limping off, took Onana a long time to get into the game. Needs to do more
Bailey 5 - getting bullied by a kid in first half was embarrassing really, improved a bit in second half but failed to build on his goal v Leicester
Rogers 6 - awful first half performance where he gave Maatsen no support and gave ball away constantly. Carbon copy winner to Bailey's last week and did brilliantly to cut out a possible equaliser at end. Was decent on right.
Tielemans 5 - struggled again to make an impression in what should be his best position. Bit more prominent when he dropped back
Watkins 6 - long way from his best at the moment. Thought he summed up our performance. Asleep in first half for a possible tap in when Bailey squared it. Dragged himself into the game and a cracking assist.
Ramsey - rocket of a shot and very lively, Buendia and Kosta best cameos this season. Emery will be happy with all three.
You’re losing your touch bronte….surely you could have found a 3/10 from someone :-)?
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You’re losing your touch bronte….surely you could have found a 3/10 from someone :-)?
He's still on the Christmas port.
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Can I just say, it’s well worth watching the highlights on the OS just for the madness of the subtitles!
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I agree with ed above regarding Tielemans. He seems out on his feet for the last 15 minutes or so. Maybe letting Buendia come on in his place a lot earlier than he has in past league games.
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Looking at the photos from the game, I think the jersey looks great on the players that wore long sleeve base layers underneath. A proper long sleeve version would have been epic.
Mrs Villa Phil said exactly the same during the game, and yep, I concur, long sleeved would have been very 1800's
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Shocked to hear Steve Stride wasn't invited especially as we'd invited Paul Lambert back to take charge of the team in the first half. Unai needs to come up with an alternative plan when teams restrict Rogers by limiting the space he has and any ball through to him. As good as he is, he's still young and learning the game, he can't be our only channel for attack.
From 60 odd minutes onwards we finally found some rhythm and it was more a question of when rather than if we'd turn the result around. Delighted for Ned, Emi B and JJ, those minutes will give them a big boost of confidence and set standards they all need to be measured by.
Disappointed to hear though not surprised (Villa On Tour) that the hot pies were stone cold but the worst thing I heard was the West Ham fans sing Blowin' Bubbles. To those that complain we don't have an anthem, they should be reminded of the noncing anthem the Hammers have. It's a close call but I'd say it's even worse than the annoyingly slow shit When the Spurs go Marching in.
Anyway, all that aside, we're into the next round. If we can regain some consistent form who knows. Will my eyes see the glory of the Villa win the Cup? I bloody hope so, it's long, long overdue.
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Not sure if it’s already been mentioned but all of our mascots last night were related to former players. Nice touch.
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Looking at the photos from the game, I think the jersey looks great on the players that wore long sleeve base layers underneath. A proper long sleeve version would have been epic.
Mrs Villa Phil said exactly the same during the game, and yep, I concur, long sleeved would have been very 1800's
Set off with knickerbockers and boots supplied by William Shillcock.
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Cheers, Chico. I heard somebody mention the mascots but missed out on who they were. Brilliant idea.
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Wasn't able to go last night or watch it live on TV so just watched the full match rerun. The first half and almost up to 60 minutes we were awful. More or less how we have played in few of out defeats and almost a carbon copy of our display against Brugge. A very ineffective evening for Youri and Tyrone was very slow and cumbersome with his distribution. But hey FOURTH ROUND, seems a long time since I looked forward to 4th round draw. Jacob had good game when he came on. Maatsen is class. Both will add much needed back up strength for the rest of the season.
And yes Paqueta is an absolute monumental ******. An embarrassment to himself and his profession.
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West Ham fans moaning about the corner.
Well, tough shit. We should have had one before that anyway.
When we upped the pace we looked much better.
Don't think it's been mentioned but Onana got a tug on his arm from the West Ham player so it's their fault causing him to lose balance and kicking it out for the corner
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
You can question all you like. Not a cat in hell’s chance is Martinez saving that.
I think he would have saved it.
I also think the defence is jittery when Olsen plays.
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I think he would have saved it.
I also think the defence is jittery when Olsen plays.
Unsighted by at least two defenders and having to dive back where he just came from. Martinez is good but not that good. And he has let in similar this season.
You might be right about jittery when he plays, but that also doesn't explain all the mistakes they make when he isn't. It is not like early 2023 when we were rock solid in defence and only let in goals when Olsen was playing.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
You can question all you like. Not a cat in hell’s chance is Martinez saving that.
I think he would have saved it.
I also think the defence is jittery when Olsen plays.
I think Martinez sticks out a leg and saves that . Olsen had 3 things to do all night , the goal , the shot he spilled and the cross he flapped at . He does totally unnerve everyone around him , he cannot play again. We'll see him in round 4 .
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West Ham fans moaning about the corner.
Well, tough shit. We should have had one before that anyway.
When we upped the pace we looked much better.
Don't think it's been mentioned but Onana got a tug on his arm from the West Ham player so it's their fault causing him to lose balance and kicking it out for the corner
Plus if Fabianski and Soucek hadn't between them managed to bugger up stopping Maatsen's original strike, Onana would never have had the tap in anyway
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
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Yep, Olsen has earned ridicule in the past when we were a really tight unit, but nowadays when Martinez and the defence have gifted goals three or four times this season through hesitation or jittery play, and Martinez himself has played a couple of passes direct to opposition under no pressure, it is a hard claim to make that we look worse under Olsen when the opposition had 5 chances for most of the game.
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
Yes he did fine last night, and couldn't have done anything about the goal.
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
Yup, bizarre.
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In spite of West Ham taking the lead first half, (I would question had Martinez been in goal West Ham would have got that) thought Villa looked much better quality overall, second half, up a few gears, 15 minute spell and it was over, we won.
You can question all you like. Not a cat in hell’s chance is Martinez saving that.
I think he would have saved it.
I also think the defence is jittery when Olsen plays.
I think Martinez sticks out a leg and saves that . Olsen had 3 things to do all night , the goal , the shot he spilled and the cross he flapped at . He does totally unnerve everyone around him , he cannot play again. We'll see him in round 4 .
Unless Martinez has morphed into Inspector Gadget, he doesn't save that with his leg.
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Really impressed with Buendia when he came on. He always looked to be trying to move the ball forward at pace, rather than the insipid slow sideways passing that we were doing before. With our current injury situation, I think it would be a huge mistake to let him go in this transfer window. Great to hear the fans singing his name too.
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Really impressed with Buendia when he came on. He always looked to be trying to move the ball forward at pace, rather than the insipid slow sideways passing that we were doing before. With our current injury situation, I think it would be a huge mistake to let him go in this transfer window. Great to hear the fans singing his name too.
I cant see him being sold now with injuries to barkley and mcginn
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Yep, Olsen has earned ridicule in the past when we were a really tight unit, but nowadays when Martinez and the defence have gifted goals three or four times this season through hesitation or jittery play, and Martinez himself has played a couple of passes direct to opposition under no pressure, it is a hard claim to make that we look worse under Olsen when the opposition had 5 chances for most of the game.
The fact that our defending and Emi's form have dropped in standard doesn't make Olsen a better player. He didn't do much wrong on Friday and he looks like being our "Cup keeper" but I still don't think he's good enough.
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
if Olsen had played as many mins as Martinez then there would have been more mistakes. Lets not paint Olsen out to be anything more than a good keeper that rightfully sits on the bench.
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Tielemans 5 - struggled again to make an impression in what should be his best position. Bit more prominent when he dropped back
Thing with Youri is that he can be devastating in both roles, deep and advanced. When he is blunt in the deep role, there’s much clamour to move him higher up the pitch, and vice versa. So it strikes me that the trick is to maintain enough flexibility in our formation so he can move to where he can do the most damage, depending on how the opposition is set up (to stop him).
On a side note, I was quite surprised to see him stay on for the full 90 (in this and other games), as to me he seems to run on fumes after 75 or 80 minutes, and his fatigue can be a bit of a liability when we’re looking to retain possession and run the clock down.
He did putting in one cracking pass in the first half to put Maatsen in down the left. Without him or Torres we don't really have a playmaker from deep capable of seeing those passes not to mind executing them. Cash, Konsa, Mings, Onana even Kamara are all quite limited on the ball. Even Barkley prefers to run with it or play it short. That's a problem when a team sits in against us and we need the ability to spread the ball quickly out wide.
But if there's no space near Watkins then Tielemans should be pulling to the wings or dropping deep. Games kind of pass him by too often in that role.
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
if Olsen had played as many mins as Martinez then there would have been more mistakes. Lets not paint Olsen out to be anything more than a good keeper that rightfully sits on the bench.
Think there’d be a fair few subscribers to that view, but doesn’t that just make the hyperbole seem even stranger? In other words, he’s pretty decent backup.
I thought he played quite well on Friday. Emi, with his lower centre of gravity (I think), may have made something of the goal. There was the flap and one poor pass out, but by and large, I think his passing has improved significantly, especially his positioning during passing sequences, which seems to underline his heightened confidence in that area (the build-up to the second goal was a good illustration of that).
Just to put it back into context, wonder how many clubs have a better pair of keepers than us? RedScouse and Citeh for sure, but after that?
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Emi wouldn't have saved that shot, but he probably would have caught at least one cross came for, unlike Robin.
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Olsen had very little to do and two of his key moments were errors , spilling a tame shot and then flapping at a speculative cross. He hasn't been good enough since he joined and still isn't now . So it isn't "Olsen bias" it's just the reality .
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Really impressed with Buendia when he came on. He always looked to be trying to move the ball forward at pace, rather than the insipid slow sideways passing that we were doing before. With our current injury situation, I think it would be a huge mistake to let him go in this transfer window. Great to hear the fans singing his name too.
For the winning goal, he makes himself available in a pocket of space near the centre circle, receives a great pass from Tielemans then his first touch and turn are sublime and he then plays a well weighted ball to Watkins who does well good ball in good movement from Rogers and goal .
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Really impressed with Buendia when he came on. He always looked to be trying to move the ball forward at pace, rather than the insipid slow sideways passing that we were doing before. With our current injury situation, I think it would be a huge mistake to let him go in this transfer window.
Aye. Why should Leeds get any benefit of that sort.
Why should Leeds get any sort of benefit from anything at all.
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Why should Leeds get any sort of benefit from anything at all.
Amen.
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Did anyone notice in the interview Morgan sounded like he had cold?
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Can anyone help me, I got to the ground approximately an hour before kick off and every programme seller had sold out (we walked round the entire ground). I don’t want to be ripped off on eBay, however I am happy to pay a fair price if anyone has a spare they’re willing to part with? If so please DM me and we can sort it out, thank you…
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Can anyone help me, I got to the ground approximately an hour before kick off and every programme seller had sold out (we walked round the entire ground). I don’t want to be ripped off on eBay, however I am happy to pay a fair price if anyone has a spare they’re willing to part with? If so please DM me and we can sort it out, thank you…
They were on sale on the official website days before the game , might be worth looking there
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Can't get it online from the club? Edit: Just checked and Sold Out with no indication of a re-print.
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Ordered one in the week from the official website .
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I have a programme from every single game my son has ever been too (200+) and this is the only one missing so you can imagine I’m desperately keen to get one. If I have to I’ll get one off eBay but I know on here people often help each other out so fingers crossed…
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Try ignition media website or contact them , that's who my invoice is from.
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Try ignition media website or contact them , that's who my invoice is from.
Unfortunately they are sold out on Ignition Media too
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Olsen had very little to do and two of his key moments were errors , spilling a tame shot and then flapping at a speculative cross. He hasn't been good enough since he joined and still isn't now . So it isn't "Olsen bias" it's just the reality .
It’s blatant unfounded bias to keep having a go at him when there is no reason. As others have said he’s a good number 2 and only Kelleher and Ortega are better.
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Olsen dislike bias is truly mind boggling on this forum. If he had dropped as many clangers as Martinez has this season he would have been virtually hung, drawn and quartered.
if Olsen had played as many mins as Martinez then there would have been more mistakes. Lets not paint Olsen out to be anything more than a good keeper that rightfully sits on the bench.
And I am not saying that.
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Olen's 2 errors v West Ham went unpunished. He didn't exactly have much to do either .
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Olen's 2 errors v West Ham went unpunished. He didn't exactly have much to do either .
I heard he parks in the disabled spaces at ASDA.
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I'm amazed anyone thinks Olsen is Ok.
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Olsen is a limited goalkeeper and I happen to think we wouldnt of lost the home leg of euro sf last year with Emi in goals. But Olsen also suffers in comparison to Emi. Other than Marrinez I dont remember of our keepers in recent memory coming for corners like Emi
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Olen's 2 errors v West Ham went unpunished. He didn't exactly have much to do either .
I heard he parks in the disabled spaces at ASDA.
The Asda went about 20 years ago if not longer
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Olen's 2 errors v West Ham went unpunished. He didn't exactly have much to do either .
I heard he parks in the disabled spaces at ASDA.
The Asda went about 20 years ago if not longer
There is more then one in this area of Birmingham alone.
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Olsen is the worst goalkeeper I’ve ever seen at Villa and he’s got competition
even the other night when he didn’t have much to do he was flapping away on crosses,
I’ve got zero confidence in him and I think the defence have the same
He is no where near good enough to be our no 2
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Think Mark Bunn is probably the worst, then Tumbling Bear Lovre Kalinic.
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Remember that bloke who played against Yeovil. Looked dodgy as hell but ended up saving a pen as I recall
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Moreira.
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Emi B and Youri have great ability with slide-throughs. They don't always come off but you have to accept that part of it especially when we're often slow and square-balled in possession.
For Buendia, he's only getting cameos off the bench so is more desperate to play these passes. Really glad that it came off for him on Friday night.
One of his other consistent tricks of a looping header at the near post from a corner almost brought a goal too.
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Moreira.
Yeah, and as I recall we weren't allowed to play him in league games as we had too many loan players. Great research, Villa.
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Think Mark Bunn is probably the worst, then Tumbling Bear Lovre Kalinic.
Good suggestions
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Olsen is the worst goalkeeper I’ve ever seen at Villa and he’s got competition
even the other night when he didn’t have much to do he was flapping away on crosses,
I’ve got zero confidence in him and I think the defence have the same
He is no where near good enough to be our no 2
Moreira, Kalinic, Bunn, Nyland (apart from the home leg of league cup semi final against Leicester, where for one night only he turned in prime Gordon Banks). All arguably worse and in some cases much worse than Olsen. Doesn’t mean I think Olsen is good, I don’t particularly, but its easy to forget some of the shockers we’ve had between the sticks.
Saying all that, I went to the league cup game at Man Utd just after Emery took over and Olsen probably gave the worst goalkeeping performance Ive seen live.
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He can’t be worse than the fella who turned up on his pyjamas.
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Olsen is the worst goalkeeper I’ve ever seen at Villa and he’s got competition
even the other night when he didn’t have much to do he was flapping away on crosses,
I’ve got zero confidence in him and I think the defence have the same
He is no where near good enough to be our no 2
Moreira, Kalinic, Bunn, Nyland (apart from the home leg of league cup semi final against Leicester, where for one night only he turned in prime Gordon Banks). All arguably worse and in some cases much worse than Olsen. Doesn’t mean I think Olsen is good, I don’t particularly, but its easy to forget some of the shockers we’ve had between the sticks.
Saying all that, I went to the league cup game at Man Utd just after Emery took over and Olsen probably gave the worst goalkeeping performance Ive seen live.
I can only really remember Nyland out of all those, and let’s face it no matter where you stand there’s not much in it either way
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I was also at old Trafford that night
He wasn’t helped by having Augustinson and chambers in front of him
It was rubbish all round
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Nyland was unbelievable in that semi final. That save from Maddison was pure Martinez.
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He can’t be worse than the fella who turned up on his pyjamas.
Kiraly , the scruffiest keeper ever
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Olsen is the worst goalkeeper I’ve ever seen at Villa and he’s got competition
even the other night when he didn’t have much to do he was flapping away on crosses,
I’ve got zero confidence in him and I think the defence have the same
He is no where near good enough to be our no 2
Moreira, Kalinic, Bunn, Nyland (apart from the home leg of league cup semi final against Leicester, where for one night only he turned in prime Gordon Banks). All arguably worse and in some cases much worse than Olsen.
Nyland was mostly awful. But gave us that game and Swansea away in the League (late penalty save, from memory) and a handful of other games.
Olsen has just been mostly awful.
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Tommy Hughes in the early seventies. Awful keeper.
Evan Williams (loan) even worse.
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Olen's 2 errors v West Ham went unpunished. He didn't exactly have much to do either .
I heard he parks in the disabled spaces at ASDA.
The Asda went about 20 years ago if not longer
I was in Asda this morning.
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I hated Brad Guzan. Partly because he was part of the smirking Santa idiots video but mostly from when we got obliterated at Arsenal and he managed to push a penalty that was hit extremely poorly straight at him in to the net. The worst attempt at saving a very poor pen i've ever seen.
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Tommy Hughes in the early seventies. Awful keeper.
Evan Williams (loan) even worse.
If we hadn't taken Evan Williams on loan then we probably would not have landed up in the third division and the rest, as they say, would not have been history.
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I hated Brad Guzan. Partly because he was part of the smirking Santa idiots video but mostly from when we got obliterated at Arsenal and he managed to push a penalty that was hit extremely poorly straight at him in to the net. The worst attempt at saving a very poor pen i've ever seen.
Shame. Didn't he emulate Bozzie in a penalty shoot-out up at Sunderland?
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Guzan was great for a while, some of his saves were stunning. Playing a few seasons behind our defence would have destroyed anyone back then.
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Tommy Hughes in the early seventies. Awful keeper.
Evan Williams (loan) even worse.
If we hadn't taken Evan Williams on loan then we probably would not have landed up in the third division and the rest, as they say, would not have been history.
I was too young to know if he was good or bad but a few months after leaving us he played in a European cup final for Celtic and I think he was pretty popular up there
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I hated Brad Guzan. Partly because he was part of the smirking Santa idiots video but mostly from when we got obliterated at Arsenal and he managed to push a penalty that was hit extremely poorly straight at him in to the net. The worst attempt at saving a very poor pen i've ever seen.
Shame. Didn't he emulate Bozzie in a penalty shoot-out up at Sunderland?
Yes, eventually succumbed to Lambert beatings shell shock and went shit.
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I hated Brad Guzan. Partly because he was part of the smirking Santa idiots video but mostly from when we got obliterated at Arsenal and he managed to push a penalty that was hit extremely poorly straight at him in to the net. The worst attempt at saving a very poor pen i've ever seen.
Shame. Didn't he emulate Bozzie in a penalty shoot-out up at Sunderland?
Yes, eventually succumbed to Lambert beatings shell shock and went shit.
Guzman was a million times better than Olsen
A million billion times better
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Guzan was great for a while, some of his saves were stunning. Playing a few seasons behind our defence would have destroyed anyone back then.
Did very well initially for sure, took Shay Given's place who was well on the slide by then. But by the end of Lambert's time he was a shell of a player.
Kalinic was the worst. We had scouted him for years under 2 or 3 managers, paid decent money for him and he was absolutely shocking when he arrived. Smith getting Steer back from loan was critical to getting us promoted.
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Guzan was shit, a player not good enough for us that played way too many games as we got shitter and shitter.
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Was Enckelman always poor, or just blitzed after the 2002/03 Blues games?
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I don't think he was as poor as his post-Blues reputation warrants, but nor did he really show enough before to justify trying to rehabilitate him.
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I don't think he was as poor as his post-Blues reputation warrants, but nor did he really show enough before to justify trying to rehabilitate him.
I think he had the ability to be a good keeper but was mentally too weak, which meant that he crumbled under pressure.
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I’d forgotten about the handful of games Pepe Reina played for us while Tom Heaton was injured. Heaton who is still a Man U player
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I’d forgotten about the handful of games Pepe Reina played for us while Tom Heaton was injured. Heaton who is still a Man U player
He was ok for us from memory, gave us a bit of experience and he’s still playing somewhere, Como maybe?
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I’d forgotten about the handful of games Pepe Reina played for us while Tom Heaton was injured. Heaton who is still a Man U player
He was ok for us from memory, gave us a bit of experience and he’s still playing somewhere, Como maybe?
What match was it when he ran 20 yards outside of the box and got done?
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I’d forgotten about the handful of games Pepe Reina played for us while Tom Heaton was injured. Heaton who is still a Man U player
He was ok for us from memory, gave us a bit of experience and he’s still playing somewhere, Como maybe?
What match was it when he ran 20 yards outside of the box and got done?
Leicester I think.
And yes, still playing regularly for Como at the age of 42.
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I thought his experience was pretty useful in the run-in to our great escape in 2020.
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I thought Reina was a great signing as cover and he did really well for us. If we hadn't gone and signed Emi I'd have been happy giving him another year whilst we found a long-term option.
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I thought Reina was a great signing as cover and he did really well for us. If we hadn't gone and signed Emi I'd have been happy giving him another year whilst we found a long-term option.
I'm sure somewhere I read that he said helping us survive was up there with the best achievements of his career.
He seemed to really take to the club.
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I think it turned out afterwards that Reina had Covid during that Leicester game.
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I think it turned out afterwards that Reina had Covid during that Leicester game.
What was he doing? Trying to run away from it?
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Social distancing from the ball.
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I thought at the time Smith had dropped a bollock going with Nyland for the league cup final when we had Reina with the big game experience.
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One of my favourite photos of recent years is the winner against Watford by Mings showing him running off to celebrate. In the background you can see a blurred Reina celebrating the goal with his arm raised aloft.
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Doesn't Reina have some pretty dodgy politics?
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Doesn't Reina have some pretty dodgy politics?
You mean is he a fascist? I believe so. We didn't know when he signed or when Mings scored that goal.
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Doesn't Reina have some pretty dodgy politics?
I think you might be thinking of Buffon
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Who was the Villa manager that gave a 35 year old Shay Given a five year contract?
For the record Given made 37 appearances between 2011 and 2015.
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Doesn't Reina have some pretty dodgy politics?
I think you might be thinking of Buffon
Reina is bit iffy too. Very anti-lockdown, supporter of Vox and has suggested that players shouldn't be that bothered if they get racially abused.
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Who was the Villa manager that gave a 35 year old Shay Given a five year contract?
For the record Given made 37 appearances between 2011 and 2015.
Paul Faulkner CEO and Alex McLeish Manager.
Had it been 5 years earlier it would have made a lot of sense.
Surprised he made so few appearances. Lost his place to Guzan IIRC. Got it back under Sherwood
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I don't think he was as poor as his post-Blues reputation warrants, but nor did he really show enough before to justify trying to rehabilitate him.
I think he had the ability to be a good keeper but was mentally too weak, which meant that he crumbled under pressure.
Around 2008 his girlfriend was working at the company I was at. She said that he never felt he got support from the club after the Blues game which possibly ties in to what paul_e says above. No idea if we had a sports psychologist with us back then. Apparently Schmeichel was vey good and messaged him with advice to get over it
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While we are on the subject of footballers with odious views, what's the name of that Blose twat with the Le Tissier-like opinions? Baldy bloke.
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While we are on the subject of footballers with odious views, what's the name of that Blose twat with the Li Tissier-like opinions? Baldy bloke.
As if that narrows it down much.
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I have a programme from every single game my son has ever been too (200+) and this is the only one missing so you can imagine I’m desperately keen to get one. If I have to I’ll get one off eBay but I know on here people often help each other out so fingers crossed…
Ignition website is now taking orders for the reprint.
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https://www.ignitionsportsmedia.com/collections/aston-villa/products/aston-villa-vs-west-ham-united-fa-cup
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While we are on the subject of footballers with odious views, what's the name of that Blose twat with the Le Tissier-like opinions? Baldy bloke.
David Cotterill?
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While we are on the subject of footballers with odious views, what's the name of that Blose twat with the Le Tissier-like opinions? Baldy bloke.
David Cotterill?
Wouldn't be easier to name which Blose twat doesn't have odious views?
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https://www.ignitionsportsmedia.com/collections/aston-villa/products/aston-villa-vs-west-ham-united-fa-cup
Thank you!
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While we are on the subject of footballers with odious views, what's the name of that Blose twat with the Le Tissier-like opinions? Baldy bloke.
David Cotterill?
That's the twat! Thanks.
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He did a podcast one time and it randomly appeared on my FB feed and he made sha sound like a circus. I watched it as the clickbait was calling them a shitshow or something.
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Managed to grab a programme from the ignition site, mate has not long gone on there to try and grab one for his brother and found they’ve had sold out once again.
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Managed to grab a programme from the ignition site, mate has not long gone on there to try and grab one for his brother and found they’ve had sold out once again.
Try again....I've just bought one
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Managed to grab a programme from the ignition site, mate has not long gone on there to try and grab one for his brother and found they’ve had sold out once again.
Try again....I've just bought one
I bought two about an hour ago.
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Sold out again now
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Back available now
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This is a rollercoaster ride
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Back available now
Cheers for the update, just ordered some.
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One per household you greedy mothers.
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New black kit drop soon hopefully. Just shows take the sponsor off , player name etc and the kits look decent .