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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Accent Guy on December 05, 2024, 05:59:40 AM
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Well, I've only started on of these and we won so here we go.
Could really do with a clean sheet, as for all the "best keeper in the world" plaudits, it was one shot, one goal for Brentford and our goals against is unbefitting a top side.
That and we still have a minus goal difference to sort out. We could really do with our subs making a positive contribution in this one too.
Think Mings has to start again and we can play Torres against Leipzig, as Europe tends to be where he has his best form.
After this we face Forest, Man C115y, Newcastle and Brighton in the league as well as Leipzig in a crucial CL game, so this simply has to be 3 points.
Same team as yesterday and a routine 2-0 win. That should be enough for top 6 and what a difference a week makes.
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I vote Villa win. Well I would if I hadn't been disenfranchised.
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0-2
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Really hard to argue against playing the same side given how we played for most of the game. Hoping we can rest players in the second half before the Leipzig game.
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Same side unless Onana or Ramsey are ever fit
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Only thing is can Mings do 2 matches in 4 days.
Torres needed a rest for sure. I'd keep him for Europe.
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4 0, Watkins hat trick and Bailey.
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Only thing is can Mings do 2 matches in 4 days.
Torres needed a rest for sure. I'd keep him for Europe.
Can't see why he couldn't..He's been kicking his heels for weeks on the bench since the Brugge game. Torres can come back in for RBL, his performances need to improve. It's that simple.
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Mings absolutely has to keep his place, it would send entirely the wrong message if he didn't. He played the complete match so not like Emery brought him off as he has been doing with Kamara. Torres has to earn his place back now, which is how it should be.
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I don’t agree that’s how it should be. We should play the best players for each game. There’s plenty of matches where Pau is the best option and plenty where Mings is.
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I think we are going to twat this lot.
Could see the end of their Manager if we do.
Same team please with only one tweek and that is Digne rested for Europe and Maatson to terrorise them down the left.
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I don’t agree that’s how it should be. We should play the best players for each game. There’s plenty of matches where Pau is the best option and plenty where Mings is.
I don't agree with that at all. The defence has been running at nearly two goals a game against for a year, whoever the opposition is. Good teams are built on a solid defence, time to give Mings an extended run.
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I'd love to hammer these lot and really get the wheels moving in the right direction. Heart says 4-1. Ollie at the double.
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I don’t agree that’s how it should be. We should play the best players for each game. There’s plenty of matches where Pau is the best option and plenty where Mings is.
I don't agree with that at all. The defence has been running at nearly two goals a game against for a year, whoever the opposition is. Good teams are built on a solid defence, time to give Mings an extended run.
It’s little over 1 per game this season at home, where we tend to have more possession and have more control. I think Pau is more suited to those games. Away from home where it’s exactly 2 goals per game, I’d probably go with Mings, as we tend to be a bit more under the cosh. Not an exact science, as Mings was more suited to Brentford’s more direct approach, but is at least indicative of the positive of going game by game.
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F*ck these fools, let's murder them (please)
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6-0 Villa.
FTF 8)
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9-0
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I still have bad memories of that battering at st marys with mane. Would love to trounce them like that
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Another win please and we can go to Germany riding a wave
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Just press them high up the pitch and abracadabra the ball is returned to us. Russell Martin has his principles but it is suicide when the opposition players are better than yours.
And ours really are
3-0 us.
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Usually you roll your eyes at the Steve Nicol 'WHIT YE DAEIN', JUS' GET RID' attitude to teams playing it around at the back, but Southampton...honestly, what are they doing? They should just get rid of it.
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Bednarek trying to play out from the back is an appetising prospect
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A long overdue facile victory, Villa 6 Soton 1.
*If Leeg is going, Villa 0 Soton 1.
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Southampton are this seasons Burnley. If Russell Martin plays his cards right with his football IQ he could end up with Dortmund and Soton will be back in the championship.
We should win comfortably but am reminded of that home game v Sheff United last season. So three points and a clean sheet please. 2-0 snooze fest would be ideal. No harm to rotate a few players ahead of RBL next week, Buendia might come in too.
Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Maatsen, Kamara, Barkley, Bailey, McGinn, Rogers, Duran.
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Don't change a winning team at this stage, we've had too much tinkering this season.
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I don’t agree that’s how it should be. We should play the best players for each game. There’s plenty of matches where Pau is the best option and plenty where Mings is.
Pau needs a rest, Mings needs games. If he's fit enough to play I'd go with Mings, even if it's just for his leadership on the pitch. Hopefully he'll have a very quiet afternoon but the midfield and strikers need to maintain the energy levels shown first half last night.
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Looks like the game will be played in winds of 60mph.
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We should win at a canter but I'm still scarred by memories of a game against Saints around this time of year (well, early Nov) at the turn of the millennium. 25 years!
John Gregory's descent into coaching mediocrity loomed large in an awful match on a cold Saturday winter's afternoon at VP when Southampton won the day thanks to a late header from a corner, scored by Dean Richards (sadly, since died prematurely - always thought he was too good for Wolves and hoped we'd get him, especially after Ugo and Southgate moved on).
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Football is a simple game and tomorrow is a simple game. Follow up a good performance with another, keep the form players in the side, accentuate the positive and to hell with the negative. The throaty roar of a 5 pints in Saturday 3pm at home will help, a foul and dark December afternoon, made for a match like this, a slightly festive atmosphere in anticipation of the years climax around the corner and a Champions League tie next up.
3-0
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Win. Just win.
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If we can keep Le Tissier quiet we'll be ok. 3-0 Taylor, Charles, Yorke
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Same starting eleven. Get an early goal and put Saints on the front foot. Exploit the space and pick 'em off.
Make changes early second half with Tuesday in mind.
3-0
If Carlsberg ................
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Looks like the game will be played in winds of 60mph.
just looked at the beeb forecast and yes, it looks like its going to be breezy !!!
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I'd love to hammer these lot and really get the wheels moving in the right direction. Heart says 4-1. Ollie at the double.
Heart says 6 7 or more to nil.
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They make so many mistakes trying to play out from the back, we need to exploit that. If the winds are going to be as bad as mentioned above, then punting it long won't be wise either.
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They make so many mistakes trying to play out from the back, we need to exploit that. If the winds are going to be as bad as mentioned above, then punting it long won't be wise either.
Unless the wind's blowing towards their goal. In which case I'd suggest a Sensible Soccer type punt straight from kick off.
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Get a good press going and Sourhampton will be incapable of preventing goals being conceded. Can we prevent goals being scored against us?
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Get a good press going and Sourhampton will be incapable of preventing goals being conceded. Can we prevent goals being scored against us?
Well, they'll obviously cash in their Cameron Archer voucher for one.
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Or Bednarek...
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They make so many mistakes trying to play out from the back, we need to exploit that.
Southampton will be thinking the same about Villa
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Looks like the game will be played in winds of 60mph.
i have to admit, i dont envy the saints fans travelling here and back in conditions like are forecast. Dodgiest in years according to every forecast i've seen.
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They make so many mistakes trying to play out from the back, we need to exploit that. If the winds are going to be as bad as mentioned above, then punting it long won't be wise either.
Unless the wind's blowing towards their goal. In which case I'd suggest a Sensible Soccer type punt straight from kick off.
I remember playing a school's match once on a pitch with about a 15 degree gradient with the wind blowing downhill. I think it was 5-0 at half time but finished 7-5.
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A long overdue facile victory, Villa 6 Soton 1.
*If Leeg is going, Villa 0 Soton 1.
Nope. Just Money City and Leicester City for me and Aston-Lee over Christmas and New Year courtesy of purpletrousers.
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Southampton are shocking defensively but half-decent going forward.
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A long overdue facile victory, Villa 6 Soton 1.
*If Leeg is going, Villa 0 Soton 1.
Nope. Just Money City and Leicester City for me and Aston-Lee over Christmas and New Year courtesy of purpletrousers.
*checks bookies' odds for the festive home games*
Seriously, great to hear. Hope we get positive results in those games.
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Southampton are shocking defensively but half-decent going forward.
Any particular part of their forward line you've got your eye on?
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Southampton are shocking defensively but half-decent going forward.
Any particular part of their forward line you've got your eye on?
I think the relatively unknown Archer might need keeping an eye on.
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I'd definitely stick with Mings. Quite apart from anything else, his passing the other night was every bit as good as Torres'.
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Southampton are shocking defensively but half-decent going forward.
Any particular part of their forward line you've got your eye on?
I think the relatively unknown Archer might need keeping an eye on.
Archer, you say? I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
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I'd definitely stick with Mings. Quite apart from anything else, his passing the other night was every bit as good as Torres'.
This is a good point. As well as his all round defensive excellence, his distribution was also very good on Wednesday, no discernible drop off from Torres. Hope he has a run of games now.
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At home in December to an Archer led side who are bottom of the league. What could possibly go wrong?
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Hate playing these, please batter them.
I remember trekking up from Winchester to watch us play them when we lost 1-0 to a Jay Rodriguez dive and a pen from that conspiracy theorist loon.
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At home in December to an Archer led side who are bottom of the league. What could possibly go wrong?
The referee / authorities 100% fucked us over in that Sheffield Utd game . They did not want us top at Christmas.
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Fucking hell.
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Fucking hell.
Come on, now. Let's hear him out.
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At least one clear pen , the Bailey disallowed goal . Etc etc .
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See, I knew he'd have evidence.
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Exhibit A . Go read the match thread .
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I don't need to, I've already got all the evidence I need. Sexual Ealing has gone directly from burying his head in cocaine to burying it in the sand.
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I don't need to, I've already got all the evidence I need. Sexual Ealing has gone directly from burying his head in cocaine to burying it in the sand.
Ha , genuinely there were some baffling decisions on the night .
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I don't need to, I've already got all the evidence I need. Sexual Ealing has gone directly from burying his head in cocaine to burying it in the sand.
Ha , genuinely there were some baffling decisions on the night .
Usually are when the Illuminati's involved.
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We have a penalty taker problem since Luiz left. Obviously Youri didn’t work so we were back to Ollie on Wednesday and he was not convincing in taking the kick. Quite lucky that it crept in. We need a more solid reliable pen king. Lucas IMO would be good.
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Reckon Cash would take a good pen, John Gidman style .
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Maybe going to give the journey a miss tomorrow if the weather here in West Wales is as bad as predicted. It sounds absolutely horrendous. I had to make 2 or 3 detours for the Palace game be cause of flooding and trees down and that storm seems nothing with what's predicted. Hopefully the weather forecast is wrong yet again. Stay safe and UTV
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Reckon Cash would take a good pen, John Gidman style .
I think he's daft enough to not give a fuck and over think it.
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Reckon Cash would take a good pen, John Gidman style .
I think he's daft enough to not give a fuck and over think it.
Oxymoron? I reckon he'd just rifle it like Giddy used to
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Is there a chance the game could be called off?
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I’d put the odds at zero chance of a postponement. Rain now and then throughout the game and 5 degrees. Good footballing weather that is. Watching will require the appropriate apparel.
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I’d be amazed if Mings starts. Deserves to of course, but I think the doctors might have something to say about him playing twice in four days.
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Will game definitely go ahead? Bit blowy outside.
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I’d be amazed if Mings starts. Deserves to of course, but I think the doctors might have something to say about him playing twice in four days.
Wouldn't he have come off earlier in the game against Brentford if that was the case? I reckon he'll be fine, and will play.
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I can see Mings starting and Torres will play vs Leipzig
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I think having the ability to swap them and rest them as needed is just what we, and they, need.
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We have a penalty taker problem since Luiz left. Obviously Youri didn’t work so we were back to Ollie on Wednesday and he was not convincing in taking the kick. Quite lucky that it crept in. We need a more solid reliable pen king. Lucas IMO would be good.
I saw McGinn take a decent one for Scotland a while back.
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Everton v Liverpool just been postponed
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Rogers took a penalty and scored for the U21's
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Merseyside derby's been postponed already, surely more to follow you'd think.
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Is there any way of finding out before traveling?
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Is there any way of finding out before traveling?
Probably depends how far you have to travel.
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Ive just been out round mine its horrendous. If brums anything like my area the game should be called off. Its dangerous
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The whole fixture list should be called off.
This is farcical planning
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Is there any way of finding out before traveling?
Probably depends how far you have to travel.
I am leaving mid day.
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The whole fixture list should be called off.
This is farcical planning
How so?
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Ive just been out round mine its horrendous. If brums anything like my area the game should be called off. Its dangerous
Whereabouts are you Demitri?
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I'm in South Wales and the wind is pretty full on. Didn't think it was expected to be bad in the midlands today?
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The forecast is 60mph winds in Aston. If the game goes ahead, I don’t expect it to be much of a spectacle.
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The forecast is 60mph winds in Aston. If the game goes ahead, I don’t expect it to be much of a spectacle.
Maybe a game for keeping the ball in the ground.
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It’s bad around me. I cannot see how the match can go ahead if it stays like this.
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The whole fixture list should be called off.
This is farcical planning
Not sure what they could have done planning wise. They didn't have months notice of what is practically a hurricane!
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I hardly slept because of the wind so as much out of tiredness haven't traveled. We are in a very rural part of West Wales near the coast and I've never seen or heard wind like it in the UK. Lots of trees down and power cuts..
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I hardly slept because of the wind so as much out of tiredness haven't traveled. We are in a very rural part of West Wales near the coast and I've never seen or heard wind like it in the UK. Lots of trees down and power cuts..
I wouldn't be attempting that trip from your neck of the woods pal.
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Ive just been out round mine its horrendous. If brums anything like my area the game should be called off. Its dangerous
Whereabouts are you Demitri?
Hertfordshire/north london
Had a load of trees falling down temporary lights fallen.
Burst pipes causing flooding as well. Not good at all
Stay safe friends and foes today and wrap up.
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I'm off to London for a Christmas piss-up. I wouldn't fancy going to VP.
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Are the trains ok in brum? If they are not operating they may as well call the game off as not many fans will be able to get there
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Snow Hill line is OK. Well, no worse than usual.
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The Chiltern trains look to be largely running OK.
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Is there any way of finding out before traveling?
Probably depends how far you have to travel.
In Liverpools case 90% probably travel 200 + miles.
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Cross city lines seem to be running still, but with delays. Not looking forward to setting off. The wuss in me is hoping for the game to be called off!
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The intrepid explorer in me desperately hopes the game goes ahead.
It’ll be fun to be out in ‘unusual’ conditions (for us) and should make for a game that will be a little out of the norm.
We shouldn’t be protected from absolutely everything.
Of course, individuals will make their own decisions based on distance to travel etc, but in reality, how many of us are going to be ‘in danger’ travelling to and from the game ?
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I'm off to London for a Christmas piss-up. I wouldn't fancy going to VP.
From memory I don't see why you can't do both. ;)
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Is there any way of finding out before traveling?
Probably depends how far you have to travel.
In Liverpools case 90% probably travel 200 + miles.
It was an Everton home game.
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Proper cowd on the platform at Rowley. Wrap up! Or wear a beer coat.
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The 12:30 Leeds home game is going ahead so I don't see our game being called off . Be interesting to see the crowd numbers
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My daughter got cross city line into brum this morning for work and it was running a couple of mins late, which is par for the course without the storm. Just looked online, running to time at the moment. Id say if they were going to call it, it will be in the next hour, although wind mph is supposed to stay about the same for k/o I think. With trains & buses running, i reckon itll be on.
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Less than 20 miles between Everton and Wigan. Both have a 12:30 kick off time.
The Wigan game is still on (as at 45 mins before KO )
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Maybe Everton being closer to the sea is an issue?
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Racing was bumped at Aintree first thing this morning.
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Just heard on Talksport that the club has confirmed that our game is going ahead.
Take care everyone!
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Bugger.
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Yes !!!!
Good
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Cross city line not operating at least not in the south. Lines down at University.
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At the risk of being dismissed as a big girl's blouse, I'm tempted to wear a coat today.
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Windy and wet in Town. Not as busy as you would expect as people choose to stay away. Strangely the market around the Cathedral is shut but the Jarman Market is open as usual. That's a lot of trade to throw away...
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At the risk of being dismissed as a big girl's blouse, I'm tempted to wear a coat today.
You big girls blouse. Was hoping for some topless action today
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This should be a never in doubt kind of result but so was Sheffiled Utd at home over Christmas last year. Hope Archer isn't involved today, just in case.
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Cross city line not operating at least not in the south. Lines down at University.
Oh blimey, thanks for letting me know.
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Cross city line not operating at least not in the south. Lines down at University.
Oh blimey, thanks for letting me know.
App shows they are still running but visual inspection confirms the same train has been sat at Northfield for at least 35 mins.
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At the risk of being dismissed as a big girl's blouse, I'm tempted to wear a coat today.
You big girls blouse. Was hoping for some topless action today
I'm not Geordie!
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Yes. The Canal Turn has been renamed the Irish Sea.
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I predict lowest attendance of the season today!!
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Maybe Everton being closer to the sea is an issue?
But...but Wigan has a pier?
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Cross city line not operating at least not in the south. Lines down at University.
Oh blimey, thanks for letting me know.
App shows they are still running but visual inspection confirms the same train has been sat at Northfield for at least 35 mins.
Trains are running on the Aston side of the line, it's weirdly quiet though, as if people haven't realised they're running.
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Have a feeling maatsen might get the nod today and digne saved for Leipzig
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Drive across was quieter than usual, which was nice.
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Can't see past a thumping great win today. Four for us Watkins, Bailey, Mings and McGinnb and a clean sheet.
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Have a feeling maatsen might get the nod today and digne saved for Leipzig
You're right.
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Maybe Everton being closer to the sea is an issue?
But...but Wigan has a pier?
Area for loading coal on the Liverpool to Leeds canal, innit. I usd to work in the pub there.
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I jinx the match thread so here's the team here....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeMzordX0AAgAkj?format=jpg&name=large)