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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on October 19, 2024, 04:59:41 PM
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Great performance job done. Next.
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Great win. Hard place to go. Fulham unbeaten at home this season no more.
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Yes!!!
But lets cut out these stupid bookings.
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Fulham not an easy team to beat on their own patch. Great that Rogers and Watkins score again. Three points, into 4th and looking good. Well done Villa for a professional performance.
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The team in stride wins it. Let no one underestimate this win. Last week Fulham were unlucky to go down 3-2 at 115C and we easily outplayed them. This is their first home defeat.
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great result - good that we seemed to come though unscathed. Only real worry is the right side. Cash, Bailey and Jayden didnt cover them self in glory today
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And, of course, another turnaround.
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One defeat all season is bloody good mid way through October.
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Fulham are a good side, so this was an impressive performance.
I thought that they tried to wind up our more volatile players.
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We don’t lose in London
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More than acceptable, pretty in control throughout. Next….
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Excellent win and a thoroughly professional performance.
We are the real deal. I just wish we would stop giving away silly goals.
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Highly impressive result . Tielemans was superb today and man of the match . Carlos also had a great game .
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I always enjoy it when we win in that there London
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Well done. Great win. As Said before Fulham are a good team.
Have a great WE all.
Beer tonight will taste good.
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TalkSPORT had Tielemans being sent off so quite relieved to find out the true story.
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Didn't watch but sounds pretty impressive, to me. Wins like that would have been miraculous a few years ago and seem routine, now.
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Excellent result. Fulham didn't have a shot on goal after the penalty. Tielemans man of the match for me.
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TalkSPORT had Tielemans being sent off so quite relieved to find out the true story.
Haha, Talksport couldn't find their own arse with two hands.
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As predicted . Normal service resumed. Onwards and upwards!!
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Fantastic result considering we have a huge game coming up. Well done everyone for being so focused.
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Didn't watch but sounds pretty impressive, to me. Wins like that would have been miraculous a few years ago and seem routine, now.
Exactly two years ago tomorrow we were demolished down there and it was thankfully Slippy's last game.
Ridiculous thing is that night we had 6-7 playing who were involved today so shows the sabotage he was producing to the squad on a weekly basis.
Was slow start for us but I thought we were comfortably the better team for rest of the game. Could see at 1-3 and red card we decided to just conserve energy.
The penalty being scored could've changed things but Emi well overdue saving one in the prem.
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Talksport too busy with adverts to concentrate on any sport!!
The turning point today was the penalty save. After that only one team was going to win and did!!
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Great result, the league table is looking familiar. A win on Tuesday and we are in for some season I'd say.
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Good performance and top result. Deserved the win and controlled most of the match with Tielemens being fantastic again.
Brilliant finish from Ollie with the header, crap from the ref at the end by trying to even up Fulhams earlier red card with such a soft second yellow for Jaden.
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Not our best performance, not our worst. We were good value in the end. Their keeper was busier. We tried to conserve at 3-1, and a man up but ended up too much on the back foot. Jaden was unlucky to go off I thought because the second was really soft (some suggestion his complaints might have been more the cause than a pinky push). In actuality, I thought Digne was lucky not to have had an earlier booking before his eventual yellow. That was "more" a double booking than Jaden's two for me.
I would have liked us to have put them to the sword a little more really rather than sitting off, but Fulham didn't have enough to really test Emi.
Bailey isn't right. Dunno if it's still something he's carrying or just a lack of confidence. When you play with zip and pace and get an injury it can make you hold back your top gear a little.
I'll be interested to see how we line up for Bologna. Cash was knackered at the end so I wonder if we might opt for Konsa on Tuesday.
We beat a good team though. Did the job. Dare I say, for our aspirations it's the kind of routine win we should be getting.
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Thought Torres was pathetic for thier goal.
Carlos MOTM for me. Did everything right.
Watkins was crap but an exceptional header.
Bailey was old self, lose the ball and wave arms about.
Tielemans superb again and Onana got through a lot of work.
Cash frustrates as usual.
Digne excellent
Martinez..it just expected now.
Ramsay in and out
Rogers good in spurts but not commanding
Overall a great wi against a very decent side
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A good comeback from being a goal down which was a poor one to concede. Two of our goals had an element of fortune but Ollie's was a great header. It was a poor penalty but it still had to be saved. Both of Philogene's yellow cards looked a bit soft when compared to a few other tackles in the game particularly the one when Jimenez clattered Matty Cash when Emi got to a cross before both of them early in the second half.
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If Man Utd get their rat face soft as shit red cards reversed then surely Jaden has a good case for his to be overturned too?
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You can't overturn two yellow cards.
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Really good win especially after giving away such a shit goal, and a penalty. Overall we were well worth the win though.
Carlos played very well, as did Digne in the defence. Tielemans was very good, and Onana did OK. Both Ramsey and Rogers had very good games. Watkins was quiet but took his goal extremely well. Bailey was an absolute disaster, he needs a spell out of the team, you can't can't go on rewarding performances like that with starts. I thought Buendia looked lively when he came on, one pass with the outside of his boot in particular was exquisite.
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
The trouble is, it's not occasionally. Our defence has been ropey for ages.
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Couldn't be happier with that, I thought we played some great stuff at one of the toughest places to go currently. We looked really controlled at times and it's just nuts to me that we can bring Buendia and McGinn on from the bench. What a time to be a Villa fan.
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Gave them a head start & we're still comfortably the better team. Should have won by more.
Bailey got worse the longer he was on. Maybe needs a break from the team whilst he gets his confidence back.
Philogene second yellow wasn't even a foul. As others have said Tielemans was head & shoulders above everyone.
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Just looking at the BBC report they have Matty Cash as their player of the match.
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Just looking at the BBC report they have Matty Cash as their player of the match.
Other than his usual give-away-a-penalty routine, he was very good.
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Harsh sending off for Jayden but he is one who we can manage without for a couple of games.
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Harsh sending off for Jayden but he is one who we can manage without for a couple of games.
One game isn’t it for a second yellow?
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
The trouble is, it's not occasionally. Our defence has been ropey for ages.
High line is a gamble but it's working for the most part. We do need to tweak things but there's only so much you can do without taking a little off the attacking side.
I don't think we were overly troubled through the game. Carlos was excellent again. Pau got better and we're off the back of a couple of clean sheets too. So hopefully that side will improve. That said I don't think we're the kind of team that will get a lot of clean sheets, regardless of who we might sign.
Just be glad we're not Spurs.
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Yes, misses Bournemouth game on Saturday.
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Some of the interchanges in the midfield when Tielemans, Barkley and Buendia were on the pitch was a joy.
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While returning home from holiday Earlier I listened to reports of us going behind to soon equalising to then get home for the start of the 2nd half and watch us go in front and then extend the lead further. Then, a phone call off the wife who was dropping our daughter to the station who informed me that her car had broken down!
I had to listen to the rest on the radio via updates on 5 live. I’m still roadside awaiting the AA. Don’t care, we get 3 points so all’s good.
Our best start to a Prem season since ‘98 according to 5 Live.
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
Everton at home was the perfect example. DCL roughed him up early and he didn't fancy it after that. However you then see how brilliant he was v Bayern. Ultimately we signed him to help us get CL and he's achieved that in one season.
I think in a few months when Mings hopefully has a few sub cameos under his belt we'll rest Torres for games v likes of Brentford, Everton, Fulham, Ipswich where they do have physical CFs. Makes sense if there's an upcoming CL match.
It's a really good position to be in as we know Mings is proven for us alongside Kons so hopefully he still has enough in him to be a good player at this level even if it's just 15 starts a season.
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Special mention to our midfield today, when we get it right we always win. Whilst Tielemans will rightly get all the praise, Ramsey had a great second half, as did Rogers but I was very impressed with Onona who kept it simple, tidy and very disciplined. His goalscoring games have hidden his not so great performances but today he was excellent, playing with maturity and intelligence. More of that please, Amadou.
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
The trouble is, it's not occasionally. Our defence has been ropey for ages.
Let's see how it is when Kamara is back and up to speed.
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Yes, misses Bournemouth game on Saturday.
Can't he have the Bologna game as the one he misses, in a similar way that ratface 'missed' their cup game? After all, it is our next game!
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Just looking at the BBC report they have Matty Cash as their player of the match.
I dunno how they worked that one out.
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Hey Lucas great game. You know that means right?
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1847672562752335990?s=46
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Just looking at the BBC report they have Matty Cash as their player of the match.
I dunno how they worked that one out.
They also say that we are up to 5th place!!
Edit: they've amended it to 4th
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What’s the odds on us doing the quadruple ?
Might throw half-a-crown on that
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That for me was the best league performance of the season. Fulham away is a tough place to go and we were fairly comfortable.
Spoilt by a silly red for jaden which i think was harsh but jaden should know better was completely unnecessary now he is banned for Bournemouth which isnt ideal
Ollies goal though? Wow!
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Hey Lucas great game. You know that means right?
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1847672562752335990?s=46
Love it. Had a great game for France and shined today.
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Yes!!!
But lets cut out these stupid bookings.
First time for a while we've outscored the opposition on yellows
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https://www.skysports.com/football/fulham-vs-aston-villa/report/505878
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cp39rg9vpg5t
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Comfortable throughout and we were very good at times even against a low block. Still think the final ball prevents us giving someone a real hammering. The strength of our bench is really impressive. Uni is working miracles.
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Im going emi motm. Without his save i think this game couldnt be different result.
Emis one of our best ever. Legend in the making
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Brilliant result. Brilliant manager. Brilliant squad. We are so far removed from any team we've watched over the last 30/40 years - The main difference is mentality.
We're going to celebrate our 150th year with silverware. Not sure what just yet, but I can feel it in my bones.
Onto Bologne - UTV
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Comfortable
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Gold stars to Carlos, who was unusually commanding, and to Tielemans, Ramsey, Rogers and Digne, I felt. Barkley and Buendia also made positive impressions in their cameos.
Torres mostly played well but you do wish we could help him improve in those physical one on ones - it's looking like a genuine weakness (don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine player overall, but this is preventing him from being world class).
As for Bailey: can we resign Diaby? Was it the arrival of first class competition that clicked Leon into gear last year? The drop-off in form is hard to fathom. Against Bayern, I assumed it was an injury thing, but now it looks like an old fashioned loss of confidence. He hasn't looked the same since that miss against West Ham on the opening day.
Everyone else got solid marks - Watkins scored a great goal but his touch was poor overall, and he rather fluffed a great chance in the first half.
Brilliant result, we were so much better than them overall.
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Only watching highlights now, great result obviously and an important one after two average draws. We don't half make things difficult for ourselves at the back. No PL centre back should be getting bullied in the manner Torres was for their goal. That was mindless from Cash for their penalty too, I've defended him on other penalty calls that went against him but he was a clown for that one. I thought both red cards were harsh, Watkins and their player threw themselves really with only slight contact. Watkins throws back his leg too, fine ball into him that time. Was a fine header from Watkins going away from home although Leno should do better really. On we go.
Disappointed to hear Bailey flopped again today, with the quality we have on the bench he is going to find opportunities limited without significant improvement.
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Very enjoyable away day.
Solid performance. I thought Emi v clever for penalty. The taker stuttered but Emi just kept moving exactly the way he did until he struck it.
I thought their goal a foul although I haven’t watched it back. I wonder what would have been given if Pau went down. Their sending off was almost identical and Ollie did go down then.
Bailey seemed half hearted on occasion. Once when clear through and he failed to control it.
Pleasantly surprised with Onana and I thought Tielemans outstanding.
We could maybe have bought Duran on a bit earlier.
Jaden unlucky. By that stage the ref was trying to even things up!
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We really are starting to look the bollocks aren't we?
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Ramsey had a long chat with Ramsey when he came off and looked to be very encouraging, Ramsey looks frustrated with his performances atm as I think he knows he should be getting more goal involvements than he is. Promising though
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Was it George that was speaking to Jacob?
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Sky panel reaction to red card.
https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1847668117847068881?s=46
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Had a few wines, but you know what I mean
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What’s the odds on us doing the quadruple ?
Might throw half-a-crown on that
We're about 100/1 for the league, 40/1 for the European Cup, 16/1 for the FA Cup, 10/1 League Cup.
By my calculations that should give you a return of £96,795 17s/6d (including your stake back).
PS. As your placing your stake in pre decimal, that will be less betting tax.
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Enduring a particularly unpleasant dose of Covid may I just thank Aston Villa for soothing my aching body with, what sounds like a very professional win
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What’s the odds on us doing the quadruple ?
Might throw half-a-crown on that
We're about 100/1 for the league, 40/1 for the European Cup, 16/1 for the FA Cup, 10/1 League Cup.
By my calculations that should give you a return of £96,795 17s/6d (including your stake back).
PS. As your placing your stake in pre decimal, that will be less betting tax.
I'll give anyone 100,000/ 1
Minimum stake a grand
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Very good win, hard team to beat at home and they have played very well all season.
Unai has worked miracles with us and long may it continue
The fact that we have Tyrone,Emi 2, Bouba to still come in to the starting 11 is a fantastic prospect, would add that Maatsen hasn’t dislodged Lucas yet either is another show of strength.
1 point off top after 8 played is impressive stuff, whilst also being (hopefully) 2 wins from champions league progression too
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We really are starting to look the bollocks aren't we?
A better 2nd half against Ipswich and we'd have been top tonight.
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Really important win that, especially coming from behind. They’re a good side, Ollie’s goal was a beaut.
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Thing is i really think we are going to have a stronger 2nd half of the season than last year so if we can be there or thereabouts come 1st Jan we are in the hunt .
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A splendid, splendid win.
Caught napping in the first few mins but the quality we have, we struck back immediately. The shift in mentality I knew we were not going to lose like I would have pre-unai.
Bailey was a bit frustrating and I wish he could show last season’s form. We play some really good stuff and are one of the best teams in the country now.
Wonderful goal by Watkins. Fantastic.
Great Pen save from the world no1.
Great to see the bench players - we have great depth and makes us villains thrilled on games to come.
Take a bow players, manager, coaches - Wow!!
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It was nice that the corner to the near post finally worked. Think it was 11th time and boom what a goal !!
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Tielemans MOTM, when I see people pick teams that do not include Digne I think wtf.
I thought Rogers and Watkins were poor but their goals make up for it.
3 points, we move on.
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Tielemans is a better player than Luiz. We've done great work there.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
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Its a key win. We have some real tough tests coming up
H Bournemouth
A Spurs
A Liverpool
H Palace
A Chelsea
So absolutely vital we got the 3 points today as we have some real challenges coming up
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Tielemans is a better player than Luiz. We've done great work there.
Absolutely a higher pedigree player , Luiz is good but had too many lapses in concentration and often slowed the game down to snails pace . Tielemans has elevated the centre mid to a different level .
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
Thanks Franky.
Yeah at the top level it can be a game of fine margins, but I didn't think we actually played as well as we can.
Good luck to your lot for the rest of the season too. Apart from the return game of course.😁
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Great performance, only slight disappointments are the lack of physicality from Pau and Bailey's ongoing dip in form. No way was it a second yellow for Jaden. I'd also like the ref to explain why he did the crossed-arms signal to say no penalty on Cash when looking right at it, then rolling on his back with his legs in the air once VAR started tickling him.
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On 20th October 2022, we played Fulham away under slippy and I sat through one of the worst 90 mins ever. In a drowsy-stupor like fever dream that night my phone pinged like mad and I knew he’d been binned without bother to checking.
We scored an own goal, had a sending off and conceded a penalty.
One Mr Unai Emery arrived TRANSFORMS the club, players and mentality and nearly 2 years to the day we return, we played, we conquered.
This time, their man gets sent off, we save their penalty and they score an own goal. We also come from behind to win yet again. 99% of our squad is now available for selection and we’re 1 point of the top.
Happy Days.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
Thanks LF. Fulham are a decent side, IMO... wouldn't have been devastated with a draw today, especially after the first five minutes! Good luck for the rest of the season, return match(es) not withstanding.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
Thank you LF. Pleased Jimenez scored as he’s in my FFT and best wishes for the rest of the season.
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We are now just a very, very good football team. It’s great, isn’t it?
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
Cheers Franky.
You were bypassing your midfield because I don’t think you have the players to play through a well organised press.It could have been different had you scored the penalty.
All the best for the rest of the season.
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Tielemans MOTM, when I see people pick teams that do not include Digne I think wtf.
I thought Rogers and Watkins were poor but their goals make up for it.
3 points, we move on.
Tielemans has been our best player this season.
No mean feat bearing in mind the competition.
Honestly though when we bought him it was a 'meh' signing from Leicester and we got 2nd best compared to Toon behind Barnes.
Glad I was wrong Yourri has had a brilliant 2024
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What’s the odds on us doing the quadruple ?
Might throw half-a-crown on that
We're about 100/1 for the league, 40/1 for the European Cup, 16/1 for the FA Cup, 10/1 League Cup.
By my calculations that should give you a return of £96,795 17s/6d (including your stake back).
PS. As your placing your stake in pre decimal, that will be less betting tax.
I would have thought with those odds the stake would be no more than tuppence ha’penny?
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Thought Torres was pathetic for thier goal.
Carlos MOTM for me. Did everything right.
Watkins was crap but an exceptional header.
Bailey was old self, lose the ball and wave arms about.
Tielemans superb again and Onana got through a lot of work.
Cash frustrates as usual.
Digne excellent
Martinez..it just expected now.
Ramsay in and out
Rogers good in spurts but not commanding
Overall a great wi against a very decent side
A fair summary. The goal was pathetic from Biff Bing Pau but I would add he played pretty well after that. Carlos was a rock.
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Great win and great away day.
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Tielemans MOTM, when I see people pick teams that do not include Digne I think wtf.
I thought Rogers and Watkins were poor but their goals make up for it.
3 points, we move on.
Tielemans has been our best player this season.
No mean feat bearing in mind the competition.
Honestly though when we bought him it was a 'meh' signing from Leicester and we got 2nd best compared to Toon behind Barnes.
Glad I was wrong Yourri has had a brilliant 2024
Same. I love being proved wrong.
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I just knew Rogers would score today. Great win and sets us up nicely for Tuesday.
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Just home from the match.
Great day out. We won it at a canter.
Special thanks to a H&V guy who got me ticket at the last minute and went out his way to get it to me.
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The thing with Torres, is you're gonna get moments like that when he's in a one-on-one tussle with a physical striker and we know he struggles. He's in a position where all he can do is be aggressive enough to play that fine line between knocking the player off fairly or fouling and if he does that in the position they were in he risks the red. Carlos as we know would have gone shoulder to shoulder but won naturally, Torres is gonna have to be more aggressive to win that kind of tussle.
The flip side is what he does on the ball, arguably better than any defender outside the top 3. He also dealt with Jimenez a lot better in the second half, with help from Carlos softening him up a bit. Our way of playing also means we're occasionally prone to balls over the top and more robust forwards will target Pau's side. But I do think he gives us way more strengths than weaknesses. It's also arguably why Konsa is the most suited partner as his recovery pace might have given Jimenez more to think about (good finish tbf).
If Konsa was the most suited partner, surely they wouldn’t be the weakest pairing in terms of goals conceded?
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
You're a gentleman, Franky. Good luck to you for the rest of the season, also.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
You're a gentleman, Franky. Good luck to you for the rest of the season, also.
I like this Franky bloke, and I like Fulham, so I concur.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
You're a gentleman, Franky. Good luck to you for the rest of the season, also.
I like this Franky bloke, and I like Fulham, so I concur.
I think my Grandad was a secret Fulham fan (he grew up in Lewisham) and the first time I ever saw Villa win in the flesh (at the seventh attempt) was Fulham. So I have a bit of a soft spot for them, too.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
You're a gentleman, Franky. Good luck to you for the rest of the season, also.
I like this Franky bloke, and I like Fulham, so I concur.
I think my Grandad was a secret Fulham fan (he grew up in Lewisham) and the first time I ever saw Villa win in the flesh (at the seventh attempt) was Fulham. So I have a bit of a soft spot for them, too.
When I used to be able to get to away games (physically and financially), Fulham is the one place I'm gutted I never got to. Everyone talks about how much they love going there, pisses me off thinking about it!
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It was nice that the corner to the near post finally worked. Think it was 11th time and boom what a goal !!
One of the ‘benefits’ of near post set-pieces is that if the opposition gets a head to it first, it often will go out for a[nother] corner anyway. We saw that quite a lot today
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
You're a gentleman, Franky. Good luck to you for the rest of the season, also.
I like this Franky bloke, and I like Fulham, so I concur.
I think my Grandad was a secret Fulham fan (he grew up in Lewisham) and the first time I ever saw Villa win in the flesh (at the seventh attempt) was Fulham. So I have a bit of a soft spot for them, too.
When I used to be able to get to away games (physically and financially), Fulham is the one place I'm gutted I never got to. Everyone talks about how much they love going there, pisses me off thinking about it!
I would've loved to have seen that Michael Jackson statue.
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I've seen it but can't seem to find any photos on my phone. I have photos of statues of Amy Winehouse, WG Grace, Nye Bevan and Robert the Bruce if any of those will do?
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I would've loved to have seen that Michael Jackson statue.
Haha. Who'd have thought Al-Fayed would be a wrong'un, ay?
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I've seen it but can't seem to find any photos on my phone. I have photos of statues of Amy Winehouse, WG Grace, Nye Bevan and Robert the Bruce if any of those will do?
Are any of them in poor taste?
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I would've loved to have seen that Michael Jackson statue.
Haha. Who'd have thought Al-Fayed would be a wrong'un, ay?
He seemed such a nice guy on Ali G.
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I've seen it but can't seem to find any photos on my phone. I have photos of statues of Amy Winehouse, WG Grace, Nye Bevan and Robert the Bruce if any of those will do?
If any of them are hilariously shit then I do enjoy them ones. I wouldn't want a serious one of me if I were mega famous.
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Assists aren't given for OGs. What a load of twank.
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I've seen it but can't seem to find any photos on my phone. I have photos of statues of Amy Winehouse, WG Grace, Nye Bevan and Robert the Bruce if any of those will do?
If any of them are hilariously shit then I do enjoy them ones. I wouldn't want a serious one of me if I were mega famous.
They're all fairly respectful, though Bevan has a bird shitting all over his head if that's any use? Here you go, just in case. I think this was from the weekend when we lost at Cardiff, I got locked out of my hotel room and had to go to reception in my pants to get a spare key. Sadly no photos of said incident, I'm sure you're all devastated.
(https://i.ibb.co/hH1psPW/Screenshot-20241020-015953-Gallery.jpg)
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I've seen it but can't seem to find any photos on my phone. I have photos of statues of Amy Winehouse, WG Grace, Nye Bevan and Robert the Bruce if any of those will do?
If any of them are hilariously shit then I do enjoy them ones. I wouldn't want a serious one of me if I were mega famous.
They're all fairly respectful, though Bevan has a bird shitting all over his head if that's any use? Here you go, just in case. I think this was from the weekend when we lost at Cardiff, I got locked out of my hotel room and had to go to reception in my pants to get a spare key. Sadly no photos of said incident, I'm sure you're all devastated.
(https://i.ibb.co/hH1psPW/Screenshot-20241020-015953-Gallery.jpg)
"First to touch your toes- okay, the statue wins it"
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I would've loved to have seen that Michael Jackson statue.
Haha. Who'd have thought Al-Fayed would be a wrong'un, ay?
A Fulham fan behind us on the way out was saying, “now we know why he put a statue of a known Peado up” it was quite funny at the time.
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That was certainly an eye opener for this Fulham fan, after our promising start to the season, apart from the first five minutes, it was all Villa, every corner created danger, we never created much at all you certainly kept our midfield quiet and that’s been the best part of team so far this season, I suppose we were a bit unlucky first goal deflection, third goal own goal, and a completely shite penalty, but that doesn’t take away from how well you played, good luck for the rest of the season
A gracious response.
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An answer to one question that was raised yesterday:
"Mr Bishop" is apparently Fulham security code for an away fan who needs to be booted out of the away end.
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There were several Villa fans in the lower tier to our left. Didn't seem to be having any problems with the home fans.
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Ramsey - from the MOTD highlights only - seems to be finding his old form; ably abetted by Digne.
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A very decent performance after an iffy start. Played it round very well and not for the first time, should have had more than we actually did. Digne and Ollie were very good. The ref not so much.
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We really are starting to look the bollocks aren't we?
A better REFEREE against Ipswich and we'd have been top tonight.
Fixed!
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First real test since Arsenal, against a side in top form and we passed with flying colours, after Morgan's goal, totally controlled the game, what a header from Ollie.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
It was a penalty under the current definition, it's this stupid 'unnatural position' bollocks that is taking consideration of circumstances away from the ref, much like if the ball touches an attackers hand before a goal.
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Ramsey - from the MOTD highlights only - seems to be finding his old form; ably abetted by Digne.
Totally. More than other players it seems, in order to be effective he needs to be in peak physical form, what with his driving style. Seems to be getting closer to that level.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
It was a penalty under the current definition, it's this stupid 'unnatural position' bollocks that is taking consideration of circumstances away from the ref, much like if the ball touches an attackers hand before a goal.
When you see that VAR didn’t give a Soton pen yesterday for an obvious pull on the shirt, the officials still get it wrong.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
It was a penalty under the current definition, it's this stupid 'unnatural position' bollocks that is taking consideration of circumstances away from the ref, much like if the ball touches an attackers hand before a goal.
The distance the ball travelled was so close he didn't have a chance to move his arm out of the way and his arm was already in that position, it didn't move to block the ball but apparently that's all irrelevant now.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
point blank header at Cash's arm , harsh decision
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I think that was a pen personally.
The 2nd yellow on jaden was more harsh
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
point blank header at Cash's arm , harsh decision
It would have been harsh had Cash not been waving his arm around in the air like he was trying to guide in a landing aircraft.
If your arm is there and the ball hits it, under the current rules it's a penalty.
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It was a pen. It was not "point blank header". It was not seen by Darren England on field, he waved away appeals.
Darren England is the only ref as far as I know who has stood by his on-field decision despite VAR telling him to change. (Pen for us v Palace last season)
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First real test since Arsenal, against a side in top form and we passed with flying colours, after Morgan's goal, totally controlled the game, what a header from Ollie.
Do't agree with "first real test" comment. Everton was a real test after going 2-0 down. Wolves was a real test as was Ipswich. For me the only disappointing performance was manure at home.
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I think that was a pen personally.
The 2nd yellow on jaden was more harsh
Watching it back tis morning I think his first was an even poorer decision, I'm not sure either gets given as a foul 9 times out of 10.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
point blank header at Cash's arm , harsh decision
It would have been harsh had Cash not been waving his arm around in the air like he was trying to guide in a landing aircraft.
If your arm is there and the ball hits it, under the current rules it's a penalty.
What about the rule that says proximity needs to be taken into consideration? The ball hit his hand from about a foot away, absolutely no way he could have got his arm out of the way.
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He does flail, but he was flailing to keep his own balance as he was turning around. It's not like he was just 'making himself big' like a keeper in a one on one.
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Good performance and result for us. I'm still annoyed the penalty was given. He waved it away immediately during play. I can't see why he didn't stick to his decision.
point blank header at Cash's arm , harsh decision
It would have been harsh had Cash not been waving his arm around in the air like he was trying to guide in a landing aircraft.
If your arm is there and the ball hits it, under the current rules it's a penalty.
What about the rule that says proximity needs to be taken into consideration? The ball hit his hand from about a foot away, absolutely no way he could have got his arm out of the way.
Presumably he took it into consideration and decided that it was still enough for him to change his mind and award the penalty.
As per aftab's point above re: the Palace game, it's not like he's not comfortable sticking with his original decision after watching it again if he thinks he got it right first time.
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Sometimes they are given sometimes they aren't . It's the inconsistency
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
I think he did. Tbh as long as the fans enjoy it i have no issues with it
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Confirmed
What's wrong with celebrating?
He did fine.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Eh? You were commenting on the match thread yesterday, so one of team footy was watching the game. Why couldn't you have formed your own opinion as to how Onana played?
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Sometimes they are given sometimes they aren't . It's the inconsistency
Never a penalty.
For all 'handball' offences in the box, all VAR replays should be played in real time and not slow motion. It always look 10 times worse when it is shown 10 times slower.
It probably took the ball 0.02 seconds to travel 24 inches at 50mph from the players head to Cash's hand. Not enough time for Cash to think about deliberately handling the ball.
The handball rule needs to be changed and the 'deliberate' bit underlined 10 times.
Fantastic win. Well done lads.
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I was pleasantly surprised with Onana. He was much more composed. I still prefer Barkley in there.
He did do the celebration and it was a bit weird as he had been subbed but received well.
In the early away games him, McGinn and Emi all seemed to lag behind so they would be the last one to celebrate with the supporters but that seems to have stopped now and they just leave him to it.
When we’ve won we are going to cheer anything anyway!
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Just watched MOTD and shouldn’t have been a penalty. So rein it in you Polakphobes!
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I have never cared how players celebrate or not after a win. They can jump into the crowd and walk down the pub with fans or they can head straight down the tunnel and get their prayer mat out. It's all fine and nothing is compulsory to be done the same way every week.
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Sometimes they are given sometimes they aren't . It's the inconsistency
I think this is right. Although the fact there are lots of mixed opinions on here, suggests its a tricky one. I can see why it was given personally and would of wanted it if it had been us on the attack.
The Southampton pulled shirt stuff was bizarre in terms of the logic that the fella wasnt in an active area of play or something along those lines. He couldnt get to an active area of play because he was being pulled back.
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Just watched MOTD and shouldn’t have been a penalty. So rein it in you Polakphobes!
Agree but now handball is anytime it touches any part of your arm deliberate or not.
It’s idiotic.
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Just watched MOTD and shouldn’t have been a penalty. So rein it in you Polakphobes!
Agree but now handball is anytime it touches any part of your arm deliberate or not.
It’s idiotic.
It’s the un-natural position bollocks that’s the issue. Whoever set the rules for it has obviously never played football in their lives.
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Sky panel reaction to red card.
https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1847668117847068881?s=46
maybe a second yellow should be looked at . Dont understand a red can but if a yellow makes the red why a panel cant look at it to see if it can be cancelled .
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I am glad refs are now dealing with pushing as they have been letting too many deliberate pushes go.
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Presumably he took it into consideration and decided that it was still enough for him to change his mind and award the penalty.
As per aftab's point above re: the Palace game, it's not like he's not comfortable sticking with his original decision after watching it again if he thinks he got it right first time.
If you're not going to take proximity into consideration as per the rules when it's a foot away, when are you? Especially as he'd waved away the penalty shouts in the first place. As ever, VAR in those situations is supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Wasn't it going to be "referee's call" more often this season, ie not sending them to the screen?
If his arms were in that position and he was 6 foot from the player/ball, and the ref missed it, then fair enough, clear reason for VAR to get involved. In this instance though, the common sense and indeed correct decision from VAR should have been: it's hit his hand, but from a foot away, so the proximity rule comes into play, and we'll stick with the on-field ref's decision not to award a penalty. There was certainly enough leeway in the rules not to be sending him to the screen.
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brilliant performance yesterday
and ruined sadiq khans afternoon
some excellent performances from Youri, Diego , Luca and solid ones from Onana and JJ .
Watkins was ok but did his job wth a fantastic header and the less I say about Leon .
The bench was quality and I think we will get stronger as we go on this season as we need all the boys with champs league and to stay in that top 4 but with Arsenal and 115 not so convincing we are looking bloody good .
UTV.
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It was a pen. It was not "point blank header". It was not seen by Darren England on field, he waved away appeals.
Darren England is the only ref as far as I know who has stood by his on-field decision despite VAR telling him to change. (Pen for us v Palace last season)
Just listened to that Claret & Blue podcast, some moron called Matt Lynch said it was always going to be a pen as the ref was looking to give them something all game. Obviously didn’t notice that he waved it away.
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Yeah the conspiratorial wailing is embarrassing. It was a decision some agree with and some don't.
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Presumably he took it into consideration and decided that it was still enough for him to change his mind and award the penalty.
As per aftab's point above re: the Palace game, it's not like he's not comfortable sticking with his original decision after watching it again if he thinks he got it right first time.
If you're not going to take proximity into consideration as per the rules when it's a foot away, when are you? Especially as he'd waved away the penalty shouts in the first place. As ever, VAR in those situations is supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Wasn't it going to be "referee's call" more often this season, ie not sending them to the screen?
If his arms were in that position and he was 6 foot from the player/ball, and the ref missed it, then fair enough, clear reason for VAR to get involved. In this instance though, the common sense and indeed correct decision from VAR should have been: it's hit his hand, but from a foot away, so the proximity rule comes into play, and we'll stick with the on-field ref's decision not to award a penalty. There was certainly enough leeway in the rules not to be sending him to the screen.
Correct.
Bollocks. Man City score as I type.
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Yeah the conspiratorial wailing is embarrassing. It was a decision some agree with and some don't.
I agree with the second part of your sentence, but z Risso is right in that VAR shouldn’t have sent the ref to the screen.
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Is Sadiq Khan a cottager?
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Is Sadiq Khan a cottager?
He’s a happily married man isn’t he?
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Presumably he took it into consideration and decided that it was still enough for him to change his mind and award the penalty.
As per aftab's point above re: the Palace game, it's not like he's not comfortable sticking with his original decision after watching it again if he thinks he got it right first time.
If you're not going to take proximity into consideration as per the rules when it's a foot away, when are you? Especially as he'd waved away the penalty shouts in the first place. As ever, VAR in those situations is supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Wasn't it going to be "referee's call" more often this season, ie not sending them to the screen?
If his arms were in that position and he was 6 foot from the player/ball, and the ref missed it, then fair enough, clear reason for VAR to get involved. In this instance though, the common sense and indeed correct decision from VAR should have been: it's hit his hand, but from a foot away, so the proximity rule comes into play, and we'll stick with the on-field ref's decision not to award a penalty. There was certainly enough leeway in the rules not to be sending him to the screen.
Correct.
Bollocks. Man City score as I type.
They haven't kicked off yet?
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Yeah the conspiratorial wailing is embarrassing. It was a decision some agree with and some don't.
I agree with the second part of your sentence, but z Risso is right in that VAR shouldn’t have sent the ref to the screen.
I agree as well! But I don't think it's corruption that they did. We are talking about Fulham here...
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I think it's a penalty under the current rules, but the current rules are still bollocks. As I understand it, if the ball had ricocheted onto his hand from two yards, it wouldn't have been given. But because it hit him directly from two yards, it was. That seems mad to me as you don't have any more time to get out of the way, do you?
I'd much rather they just went back to the old rules, where it has to be deliberate. If you're running, jumping, turning or unlinking yourself from a defensive wall, you're going to have your arms outstretched. It's a ridiculous rule that defenders are expected to act like they're engaging in a Michael Flatley production.
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What’s this Onana celebration?
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It was a pen. It was not "point blank header". It was not seen by Darren England on field, he waved away appeals.
Darren England is the only ref as far as I know who has stood by his on-field decision despite VAR telling him to change. (Pen for us v Palace last season)
Just listened to that Claret & Blue podcast, some moron called Matt Lynch said it was always going to be a pen as the ref was looking to give them something all game. Obviously didn’t notice that he waved it away.
Yes. I doubt the referee saw anything on the screen that he didn't see initially. He changed his decision purely because he had been sent to the screen.
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For me inconsistency was encapsulated in the the Southampton game, one penalty awarded for shirt pulling and another, more obvious imo refused. Awful refereeing.
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I think it's a penalty under the current rules, but the current rules are still bollocks. As I understand it, if the ball had ricocheted onto his hand from two yards, it wouldn't have been given. But because it hit him directly from two yards, it was. That seems mad to me as you don't have any more time to get out of the way, do you?
I'd much rather they just went back to the old rules, where it has to be deliberate. If you're running, jumping, turning or unlinking yourself from a defensive wall, you're going to have your arms outstretched. It's a ridiculous rule that defenders are expected to act like they're engaging in a Michael Flatley production.
I haven't seen anything about ricochets to be honest. The two main rules after it's been shown to hit the arm are "arms making body unnaturally bigger" which I suppose you could argue they were, but then also proximity to the incident, and it was close as it was possible to get. So you could argue for the penalty either way to be honest, but then seeing as the ref didn't award a penalty in the first place, I think it was suitably ambiguous that they should have left it at that.
When Cash was adjudged to have fouled the West Ham player in the first game, despite having won the ball fairly, it was said that we were going to have a lot more of "referee's call" ie VAR wouldn't intervene if it wasn't clear and obvious. It's this lack of consistency that drives fans mad.
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What’s this Onana celebration?
This:
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Bloody hell what’s the problem with that?!
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No idea tbh.
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Bloody hell what’s the problem with that?!
It’s FV being a puritanical idiot.
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That seems out of character.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
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A very good and vital win. 4-6 points in the next two would put us in a good position going into the Liverpool game.
Can't really complain about the Jaden sending off. On the MOTD highlights he seemed to blank the ref when he got the first yellow. A small thing perhaps, but may not have left the ref in the mood to be lenient.
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it is when they are going over to apologise to the fans is when have to worry footy
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A very good and vital win. 4-6 points in the next two would put us in a good position going into the Liverpool game.
Can't really complain about the Jaden sending off. On the MOTD highlights he seemed to blank the ref when he got the first yellow. A small thing perhaps, but may not have left the ref in the mood to be lenient.
Agreed. I thought the first yellow was soft, but as soon as it was given, Jaden should have been a lot more careful. A shove in the back always risks a yellow, especially with a ref possibly looking to 'level things up' even if unconsciously.
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For me inconsistency was encapsulated in the the Southampton game, one penalty awarded for shirt pulling and another, more obvious imo refused. Awful refereeing.
Yes that was terrible.
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Sadeq Khan sat their with a face like a smacked arse , priceless.
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Sadeq Khan sat their with a face like a smacked arse , priceless.
Given he's a Liverpool fan, I'm not sure he was that fussed about the result one way or the other.
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Sadeq Khan sat their with a face like a smacked arse , priceless.
Do you live in London? Does his policies affect you?
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
Very, very nicely put.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
👏👏👏👏
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I look forward the Mayor of Bologna getting some stick in the PMT on Tuesday.
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I look forward the Mayor of Bologna getting some stick in the PMT on Tuesday.
‘Matteo Lepore, what a w****r, what a w****r.’
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
Well said TV.
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Let me define cringeworthy.
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This should be deleted forever urgh
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Just Watched the highlights on Fulham TV , dear oh dear the commentary , describing Rogers goal as a fluke , telling Watkins to "get up" and its great defending for the red , lol . Idiots . Watkins goal, "ohh it's a free header" ;D
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
Well said TV.
There's no need to be so uppity about my dislike of the celebration.
I feel it's something a coach should do or the whole team.
Ideally it should be reserved for a big occasion but I take the point that some enjoy it and understand I was just stating my opinion.
And what was his contribution yesterday ?
I see players lik Jones , Kovacic and Gomes today prominent in midfield play I find Onana isn't always providing the energy yet shows it in celebrating!
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When i regularly went to away games spending time and money to follow the team i always appreciated the players coming over at the end . When we'd lose and they'd skulk off down the tunnel generally that angered the away fans .
That said, I'm not a great fan of managers scampering onto the pitch when they've won
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When i regularly went to away games spending time and money to follow the team i always appreciated the players coming over at the end . When we'd lose and they'd skulk off down the tunnel generally that angered the away fans .
That said, I'm not a great fan of managers scampering onto the pitch when they've won
That's a fair point VT.
Something I hadn't given much thought to, which is a bit silly of me as being an away fan in England is not something I want to do. I've attended Villa away games in London, including Arsenal, Chelsea, and Fulham, but not the most recent Fulham game.
I've always sat with friends and associates and made seating arrangements on the home end.
I feel like I have to explain a lot today just to support my points of view! I completely get your view regarding players approaching fans and showing appreciation so thanks for sharing your experience and point of view.
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I thought Onana did well yesterday, worked hard,made some very important interceptions, won the ball and moved it on quickly.
If he has got a thing going with the away support, that’s fine.
A bit Klopp Southgateboro, but who cares.
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I'm a little tricky troubled, though, since instead of anyone wishing to be responding to my question about Onana's performance and me trying to calculate if had any justification of celebration, some here are simply attempting to persuade me not to find what Onana does at the end of winning matches cringe-worthy. It's completely unjust to enforce my enjoyment if I don't agree with it. I respect if others enjoy it, similarly please respect my point of view.
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I thought Onana did well yesterday, worked hard,made some very important interceptions, won the ball and moved it on quickly.
If he has got a thing going with the away support, that’s fine.
A bit Klopp Southgateboro, but who cares.
Thank you Chicago.
Appreciated.
And I respect your views.
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Just Watched the highlights on Fulham TV , dear oh dear the commentary , describing Rogers goal as a fluke , telling Watkins to "get up" and its great defending for the red , lol . Idiots . Watkins goal, "ohh it's a free header" ;D
That was from the Fulham TV side, totally biased as you would expect. It couldn't be anything else or they wouldn't get any viewers. In fairness, after moaning about their man getting sent off and saying it was not a foul they had the good grace to admit it was a foul and as such a red card.
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Bloody hell what’s the problem with that?!
Being a country English gentleman from Stratford upon Avon, it's just not cricket old boy
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Let me define cringeworthy.
I have only watched it once. Dreadful. Woeful..Disgraceful.
I think it would get worse with every watch.
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Watch this instead.
&ab_channel=AstonVillaFootballClub
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Just Watched the highlights on Fulham TV , dear oh dear the commentary , describing Rogers goal as a fluke , telling Watkins to "get up" and its great defending for the red , lol . Idiots . Watkins goal, "ohh it's a free header" ;D
That was from the Fulham TV side, totally biased as you would expect. It couldn't be anything else or they wouldn't get any viewers. In fairness, after moaning about their man getting sent off and saying it was not a foul they had the good grace to admit it was a foul and as such a red card.
Nah, they've got an AGENDA. TYPICAL London media.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Were you a Villa fan for the majority of the past 40 years were mostly shit? And especially at the end of the Lerner years as we spiralled into oblivion? Not to mention almost going bankrupt under Xia. Those were shit, cringeworthy times to be a Villa fan. Not when a young man, a new signing, who has contributed to our success this season having a bit of fun with fans. Fans who are enjoying our best start to a PL campaign in a very long time. And it’s irrelevant as to the magnitude of his contribution. He doesn’t have to score because that’s not what he was brought in for. He played his part, we won the game and he did his thing. Much like Lucas Digne “another one” shout. What will be shit one day, is when it stops. When we lose or go on a bad run. I’d much rather see Onana do this all season than that. So stop being so fucking precious and offended over something that isn’t cringeworthy at all.
Well said. Good player, good man and intelligent polyglot. Works for me.
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I like the way we went into power saving mode after our third goal conserving energy for our next game. Emery thinking ahead.
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Having seen a clip of the penalty and subsequent mini celebration, Vash clearly touches the ball again when it's in Martinez's hands. I guess his hands were in a natural position for that one.
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Just Watched the highlights on Fulham TV , dear oh dear the commentary , describing Rogers goal as a fluke , telling Watkins to "get up" and its great defending for the red , lol . Idiots . Watkins goal, "ohh it's a free header" ;D
That was from the Fulham TV side, totally biased as you would expect. It couldn't be anything else or they wouldn't get any viewers. In fairness, after moaning about their man getting sent off and saying it was not a foul they had the good grace to admit it was a foul and as such a red card.
Not on the highlights reel they didn't which is plastered into the club website
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Having seen a clip of the penalty and subsequent mini celebration, Vash clearly touches the ball again when it's in Martinez's hands. I guess his hands were in a natural position for that one.
Vash sounds like an Indian spin-bowler. Even Matty doesn’t handle the ball that much.
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I’ll have as my main chicken vashass. Thanks
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I wish we would’ve signed Adrian Vicash back in the day.
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In some ways this was our most impressive league performance this year. Fulham are a strong side, and have been playing well. They started well, but in the main we controlled it and produced some really good chances.
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I'm a little tricky troubled, though, since instead of anyone wishing to be responding to my question about Onana's performance
I suppose we don't understand why you are asking. You, or someone using your login details, were on the match thread commenting on the game. So you must have formed your own opinion.
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Who the fuq is Vash?
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I'm a little tricky troubled, though, since instead of anyone wishing to be responding to my question about Onana's performance
I suppose we don't understand why you are asking. You, or someone using your login details, were on the match thread commenting on the game. So you must have formed your own opinion.
Give me Onana's post match celebrations over a self important AI bot wankfest bore any day of the week.
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I'm a little tricky troubled, though, since instead of anyone wishing to be responding to my question about Onana's performance
I suppose we don't understand why you are asking. You, or someone using your login details, were on the match thread commenting on the game. So you must have formed your own opinion.
Give me Onana's post match celebrations over a self important AI bot wankfest bore any day of the week.
Amen brother
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Jaden was stupid though!
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I thought Onana did well yesterday, worked hard,made some very important interceptions, won the ball and moved it on quickly.
If he has got a thing going with the away support, that’s fine.
A bit Klopp Southgateboro, but who cares.
I think he's been a good addition and is the type of midfielder we've been missing for some time.
I really couldn't care less how he celebrates a win with the fans to be totally honest.
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I'm a little tricky troubled, though, since instead of anyone wishing to be responding to my question about Onana's performance
I suppose we don't understand why you are asking. You, or someone using your login details, were on the match thread commenting on the game. So you must have formed your own opinion.
Give me Onana's post match celebrations over a self important AI bot wankfest bore any day of the week.
I did explains on Ross Barclay thread regards my question.
"Have you considered I ended up having to listen to some of the match thus meaning these two players weren't really mentioning in commentary.
I shouldn't have to explain all this I was just hoping for some friendly observations about both players!!"
Anyway it was answered.
And for the upteem time I'm just one person who ever thinks otherwise or trying to tease it's now got to being malicious! Again!!
I going to tell moderators but , please stop making rude and vile remarks about me not being a human!
My sponsorship donation will expire shortly, and it appears like people are doing everything they can to drive me away from here with insults and insinuations! I have zest and zeal in my posts and may write quickly at times! I mean, I never meant to annoy anyone, and I don't know why people are dragging on this crazy narrative about me not being a human. If it wasn't a person, why would I report the distasteful actions and attitude towards me to moderators!
Let's get back to the spirit of community, H&V, and topic relevance. It's not fair to me and also to everyone else who to read these utter made up ideas and then I have to defend myself and thereafter back and forth as well as it being non relevancy to topic when people just eat to read and discuss the football !
It's a Villa discussion forum not evry person has to think the same way you know or be criticise for their expression of idea.
It's an Irony that I'm a group of AI robots never heard something so far fetched and vile!! STOP!
How many times must I please Please stop this . Thank you.
Can we get back to the football for heavens sake.
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The pen decision was very harsh bordering on ridiculous. The header wasn't going towards goal for starters and Cash's arm was a matter of 2 feet away. He couldn't have got his arm out of the way.
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Unnatural position wasn't it. Connected to his torso like that.
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Hypothetical question. Given a scenario where a free kick has been awarded and the team defending it line up a six man wall say, all holding their crown jewels, the player taking the free kick drives it as hard as he can striking the hand of a defender, is the defender's hand/arm considered to be in a natural position? I know I don't walk/run around with my two hands holding my knackers. That's how stupid the game's becoming.
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The pen decision was very harsh bordering on ridiculous. The header wasn't going towards goal for starters and Cash's arm was a matter of 2 feet away. He couldn't have got his arm out of the way.
What is he doing with his arms outstretched like that in the first place? I thought he was hard done by earlier in the season at West Ham but not this time. Not sure why it needs to go to VAR, mind. Ref seemed perfectly placed in real time to make the decision.
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Can anyone confirm it deny if Onana did his celebrations with the crowd?
I don't like it and cringe worthy but can see in the moment it's one for those in stadium just don't think it's his place to do it.
And how was his actual contribution yesterday?
Here's a thought, try reading the thread before asking. The answer to Onana's performance is highlighted within these pages. Obviously, if your intention is just to piss people off, carry on you're doing a great job.
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I think FV was relating his post about Onanas celebrations being over the top relative to his performance. We don’t play either but we do wildly over the top celebrations so on that basis we should just stop.
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The pen decision was very harsh bordering on ridiculous. The header wasn't going towards goal for starters and Cash's arm was a matter of 2 feet away. He couldn't have got his arm out of the way.
What is he doing with his arms outstretched like that in the first place? I thought he was hard done by earlier in the season at West Ham but not this time. Not sure why it needs to go to VAR, mind. Ref seemed perfectly placed in real time to make the decision.
Ref probably didn't give it due to the proximity ruling only for SP to tell him in his ear to give it
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To be honest i would of screamed that i would of wanted it for the same offence and as soon as i saw the replay i knew it was a pen.
I don't blame Cash as such it was just unfortunate and it is bad luck.
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That Gerrard game in 2022 also featured an own-goal, a Fulham penalty and a Villa red card.
It's almost as if nothing has changed since then.
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Neither the ref nor Cash should be blamed for the ridiculous penalty.
That lies fully at the door of the twats who are constantly 'refining' the laws, including the definition of what constitutes handball. No doubt it will be something else next season.
Hopefully, enough will be taken in by complete bollocks like 'natural silhouette', etc and we can carry on pointing the finger (see what I did there?) at refs and players.