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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: olaftab on October 14, 2024, 06:02:38 PM
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OK time for silliness of international football and other stuff to stop and concentration on the most important matter in hand. That being the Villa's next match.
When: Saturday 19 October Kick off 3:00PM
Venue: Craven Cottage
Fulham are doing very well this season based on a very solid start. They were very unlucky to come away from the ManCity game empty handed. However hopefully with our injured players coming back we can repeat our result there last season.
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Basically Arsenal 2.0 with a couple of ex Wolves forwards thrown in. I think the game may suit us as I don't see them sitting back.
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Fulham are doing very well this season based on a very solid start. They were very unlucky to come away from the Man City game empty handed.
Agree with this. Think it'll be a draw which would be fine if we'd won the last 2 games, but we didn't.
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Fulham are doing very well this season based on a very solid start. They were very unlucky to come away from the Man City game empty handed.
Agree with this. Think it'll be a draw which would be fine if we'd won the last 2 games, but we didn't.
Yep a draw isnt good after the last two
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We conceded sloppy goals against them last season when we were in control of the games. Would be nice to see Carlos be part of another clean sheet and show them what Fulham missed-out on.
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A draw away at Fulham would be a good result imo. Would love to see a few back and desperate for Bailey to get going this season.
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Thank you for the thread.
So just to repeat Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
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As Fulham manager Marco Silva has 4 matches v Villa and 3 defeats
And the infamous 3-0 Win in Gerrard's last stand.
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Just like last season
1-2 Win.
Watkins Brace.
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1-2 Win.
Watkins Brace.
Hope not, definitely don't want any more injuries.
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1-2 Win.
Watkins Brace.
Hope not, definitely don't want any more injuries.
A device fitted to something, in particular a weak or injured part of the body, to give support.
But I mean two goals.
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I like my thread more. Who wants to watch just two teams at once? Boring.
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1-2 Win.
Watkins Brace.
Hope not, definitely don't want any more injuries.
A device fitted to something, in particular a weak or injured part of the body, to give support.
But I mean two goals.
(https://i.ibb.co/sFMxJMV/IMG-2668.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sFMxJMV)
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I like my thread more. Who wants to watch just two teams at once? Boring.
In November I'm going to start a higher or lower thread. That's will be fun!
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I'll look forward to it.
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In November I'm going to start a higher or lower thread. That's will be fun!
It'll be nice to see it, to see it nice. Will you have an attractive assistant to deal the cards?
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Well done Olaftab, we need to concentrate on the next match, not have one eye on the CL, we must stay totally focused on Fulham, it's what Unai would want!
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Give us a twirl Footy..
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I didn’t realise you were doing 2 Fulham pre-match chats on here for the mighty Fulham!! the other one was talking about your forthcoming game against Bologna as well, what I said there was I think Emery and Silva are top class manager/coaches, Emery took you from the edge of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, and when Silva got us promoted the so called experts thought we would struggle, but had a good mid-table finish, and we’ve managed last season losing Mitrovic and this season losing Palhinha, our recruitment this season has been good, hopefully another good season top ten and maybe push for Europe, be nice to get to the FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
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I didn’t realise you were doing 2 Fulham pre-match chats on here for the mighty Fulham!! the other one was talking about your forthcoming game against Bologna as well, what I said there was I think Emery and Silva are top class manager/coaches, Emery took you from the edge of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, and when Silva got us promoted the so called experts thought we would struggle, but had a good mid-table finish, and we’ve managed last season losing Mitrovic and this season losing Palhinha, our recruitment this season has been good, hopefully another good season top ten and maybe push for Europe, be nice to get to the FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
Yes its been a solid start for you, it looks like Jimenez is getting back to his Wolves form. I am expecting a very tough game on Saturday and a few beers in the Sloany Pony.
All the best.
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Yes its been a solid start for you, it looks like Jimenez is getting back to his Wolves form.
That's been pleasing to see though I hope he has a poor game on Sat. He seems to look younger now than in his Wolves days, but I suppose living in Wolverhampton can do that to people.
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I didn’t realise you were doing 2 Fulham pre-match chats on here for the mighty Fulham!! the other one was talking about your forthcoming game against Bologna as well, what I said there was I think Emery and Silva are top class manager/coaches, Emery took you from the edge of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, and when Silva got us promoted the so called experts thought we would struggle, but had a good mid-table finish, and we’ve managed last season losing Mitrovic and this season losing Palhinha, our recruitment this season has been good, hopefully another good season top ten and maybe push for Europe, be nice to get to the FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
What are your thoughts on Adama Traroe?
He has the potential to be world class but hasn't fulfilled that however seems to have started this season very well and is a handful for any defender.
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As Fulham manager Marco Silva has 4 matches v Villa and 3 defeats
And the infamous 3-0 Win in Gerrard's last stand.
He has been very kind to us
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I didn’t realise you were doing 2 Fulham pre-match chats on here for the mighty Fulham!! the other one was talking about your forthcoming game against Bologna as well, what I said there was I think Emery and Silva are top class manager/coaches, Emery took you from the edge of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, and when Silva got us promoted the so called experts thought we would struggle, but had a good mid-table finish, and we’ve managed last season losing Mitrovic and this season losing Palhinha, our recruitment this season has been good, hopefully another good season top ten and maybe push for Europe, be nice to get to the FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
What are your thoughts on Adama Traroe?
He has the potential to be world class but hasn't fulfilled that however seems to have started this season very well and is a handful for any defender.
I think has been good so far this season, he was injured most of last season, if could improve his finishing and final ball he would be brilliant, i suppose now he’s 28 that not going to happen I suppose if has a really good season for us one of the big clubs might come in for him
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No change there then.
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I didn’t realise you were doing 2 Fulham pre-match chats on here for the mighty Fulham!! the other one was talking about your forthcoming game against Bologna as well, what I said there was I think Emery and Silva are top class manager/coaches, Emery took you from the edge of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, and when Silva got us promoted the so called experts thought we would struggle, but had a good mid-table finish, and we’ve managed last season losing Mitrovic and this season losing Palhinha, our recruitment this season has been good, hopefully another good season top ten and maybe push for Europe, be nice to get to the FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
What are your thoughts on Adama Traroe?
He has the potential to be world class but hasn't fulfilled that however seems to have started this season very well and is a handful for any defender.
I think has been good so far this season, he was injured most of last season, if could improve his finishing and final ball he would be brilliant, i suppose now he’s 28 that not going to happen I suppose if has a really good season for us one of the big clubs might come in for him
Thanks for the view and insights. Traroe said Guardiola talked to him about his finishing after your last game at Man City
"After the game he came up to me to tell it was a good game, he gave me some pointers on how to finish the chances I had against them. I met him at Barca. When I arrived at Aston Villa I also had a call with him and he has always been friendly"
I've always been fascinated by Traroe because really he can be unstoppable and think he needs the right coach to take his game on.
Anyways enjoy the match and may the best team win!
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No change there then.
Imagine how much he'd be worth if he had a footballing brain?
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No change there then.
Imagine how much he'd be worth if he had a footballing brain?
One of those who is an athlete first and a footballer second. A jigsaw, goes to pieces in the box type.
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I like my thread more. Who wants to watch just two teams at once? Boring.
It wad the 5-3-2 of threads. An abomination.
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I like my thread more. Who wants to watch just two teams at once? Boring.
It wad the 5-3-2 of threads. An abomination.
Agreed, although the coffee chat was decent.
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I like my thread more. Who wants to watch just two teams at once? Boring.
It wad the 5-3-2 of threads. An abomination.
That's just hurtful.
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I think this will be tough, similar to the Ipswich game.
Does anyone know if Onana & Konsa are available?
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Hard game - we struggled against 2 lower league teams in last 2 games but hopefully most of our players are refreshed.
Who was on international duty and did any have a heav load - Rodgers, Watkins, Youri, anyone else?
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Sadly I'm going to this, I've been to Fulham about 5 times to watch us and never seen us get so much as a point, so sorry everyone!
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Typically Villa, from what I’m reading, it’ll be 1 coming back from injuries and 2 unavailable through injuries. From what I’ve seen of Fulham this season, anything other than a loss would be a positive for us.
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2-0
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4-2
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I think this will be tough, similar to the Ipswich game.
These are a cut above Ipswich . That was a very poor result / performance over there . Play like that again we will be losing .
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These are a cut above Ipswich . That was a very poor result / performance over there . Play like that again we will be losing .
Fulham "Dark Horses" how , in what way ? Relegation ? Administration?
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I do worry how going to contain Adama.
Seeing him v Man City should have scored a hat trick.
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We do it by letting him through and have one on one's with Emi. He does the rest himself.
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Put some itching powder in his Vaseline.
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I do worry how going to contain Adama.
Seeing him v Man City should have scored a hat trick.
You could probably say the same in about 80% of the matches he's ever played in. And yet....
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I get so browned off with the international break, the prospect of a Championship game on the Friday fills me with excitement so you can imagine how thrilled I am about us playing on Sat.
League form for us has been a little frustrating so we really do need to get back on track in London. We do have players coming back and the manager will chomping at the bit for the win but I see a third draw in a row, albeit accompanied by a good performance. I also see goals.
2-2
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Fully expect a 2-0 . Normal service resumed. Onwards and upwards!!
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Unai press conference Friday will be interesting
The Mail has been publishing doom laden stories about injuries all week but nobody knows who is available and who is not!
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2-0
Yeah, no.
0-2
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Unai press conference Friday will be interesting
The Mail has been publishing doom laden stories about injuries all week but nobody knows who is available and who is not!
I've seen that 'noise' on social media. Why people click the links I'll never know.
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They are looking decent this season. Himinez was a top quality forward at Wolves before his injury and seems to be on the road back there. Smith-Rowe is decent, but of we play like we can we should manage the likes of Iowbi and Traore.
Still, I’d probably tale a draw down there, but will let my heart rule the head and go 2-1 us (Watkins, Tielemans).
Not sure what the craic is on injuries, but presuming Ramsey, Konsa and McGinn are out, I’d go with:
Martinez
Cash
Carlos
Torres
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Watkins
Rogers
Bidace
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They are looking decent this season. Himinez was a top quality forward at Wolves before his injury and seems to be on the road back there. Smith-Rowe is decent, but of we play like we can we should manage the likes of Iowbi and Traore.
Still, I’d probably tale a draw down there, but will let my heart rule the head and go 2-1 us (Watkins, Tielemans).
Not sure what the craic is on injuries, but presuming Ramsey, Konsa and McGinn are out, I’d go with:
Martinez
Cash
Carlos
Torres
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
Bailey
Watkins
Rogers
Bidace
I'd hope Konsa is back. Tempted to play Barkley in this one and keep Onana back for next 3 games.
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Tough game but we need to be winning this .
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They’ve been playing very well. I think we’ll need to be more dynamic than we where against Ipswich and Manure.
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I can see us beating Fulham 2-1.
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I can see us beating Fulham 2-1.
Bloody hell you got good eyes
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Feels like forever since manure game. Really don't like these international breaks
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I've got a strong feeling Rogers will score in this one for some reason.
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Feels like forever since manure game. Really don't like these international breaks
I think this one has come at a good time for us given a few of the injuries we have.
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1-1
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I've got a strong feeling Rogers will score in this one for some reason.
And show Cold Palmer how it's done (the celebration).
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Feels like forever since manure game. Really don't like these international breaks
I think this one has come at a good time for us given a few of the injuries we have.
Watching us lose to Greece was fucking hilarious as well tbf
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Unai on squad availability: "Kamara and Mings for this match they are available and are going to try with us for Fulham. McGinn is training normally with us and he’s feeling good. Konsa as well is feeling good, Jaden is feeling good. I think it’s the first time this year we more or less have every player available."
Get the fuck in!
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Well for once the international break has done us a favour, Unai saying everyone is fit (McG, JJ, Ezri, Oanana and Jaden, and could even include Ty and Booby on the bench! Only name I couldn’t see was Cash
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Wow! We all feel good and we're almost fully stacked! Actually, is anyone injured?
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Mings and kamara available! Unbelievable news !
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Great news! Sounds like Ty and Bouba on the bench, let's hope they're not required.
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It's all very well them being fit but if they're not prepared to be demanding in our way they can fuck off back to the hospital.
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Wow! We all feel good and we're almost fully stacked! Actually, is anyone injured?
Only Olsen
Really looking forward to going tomorrow!
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Wow, virtually fully fit squad....this match only has one outcome...er...
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There's on the bench Unai style, and there's on the bench! But whatever, great news and another big step forward.
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It's all very well them being fit but if they're not prepared to be demanding in our way they can fuck off back to the hospital.
Yes, if they're not connecting with the supporters and respecting the opposition, what's the point?
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All good bar Olsen, great stuff
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Well that’s some good news to start the weekend off.
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Wow! We all feel good and we're almost fully stacked! Actually, is anyone injured?
Kortney Hause!
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It's all very well them being fit but if they're not prepared to be demanding in our way they can fuck off back to the hospital.
Yes, if they're not connecting with the supporters and respecting the opposition, what's the point?
I'd rather drown my own kids than not connect with the supporters or be a protagonist on the pitch.
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It's all very well them being fit but if they're not prepared to be demanding in our way they can fuck off back to the hospital.
Yes, if they're not connecting with the supporters and respecting the opposition, what's the point?
Or not going to church.
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2-1 to us. Watkins, Duran (sub) with 12 mins to go...And seriously, I am still up for a ticket. Any last minute drop outs send them my way please...
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Not sure what try with us means.
Doesn’t sound like it means a fitness test.
We will see?
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I'm convinced Traroe is going to cause some issues. Basically he's going to score or assist. It's been on my mind. It's irks me as he saves his performance to do something against us when he should have scored several against Man City.
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
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I'm convinced Traroe is going to cause some issues. Basically he's going to score or assist. It's been on my mind. It's irks me as he saves his performance to do something against us when he should have scored several against Man City.
Is it his 13 goals in 6 years that has you rattled? I think he's got 1 assist against us in that time, back when Matt Targett was left back. He might score of course, but his record doesn't suggest getting prematurely irked about it.
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
Touché.
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
While I'm not hugely concerned about Traore, I do wonder whether you might be angering Paddy's footballing Gods a little here with your hubris.
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Not sure what try with us means.
Doesn’t sound like it means a fitness test.
We will see?
Its travel with not try.
"They are getting better. [Boubacar] Kamara and [Tyrone] Mings are available, they are going to travel with us to Fulham.
[John] McGinn is training this week normally with us and feeling good. [Ezri] Konsa and Jadon [Philogene] as well are feeling good. It is the first time this year where more or less we have everyone available.
[Amadou] Onana is okay as well. It's good news."
Up The Villa!
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
While I'm not hugely concerned about Traore, I do wonder whether you might be angering Paddy's footballing Gods a little here with your hubris.
So its positive of all our players, and will try not to think so much more of Traroe, but ita great to hear the players are feeling good! Making me feel good!
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
While I'm not hugely concerned about Traore, I do wonder whether you might be angering Paddy's footballing Gods a little here with your hubris.
I reckon the Gods of logic and reason, who lets be fair are not having a great time of it of late, are going to see this issue as some sort of tipping point and will be spurred into action, countering those notoriously flaky footballing ones.
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With a fully fit squad Unai has some interesting choices to make. Too early for Mings and Kamara, I would think, but encouraging for the next couple of weeks.
Four wins is a big ask - but it would really set the season up. Even unbeaten in the next four games, including a couple of wins, would be great.
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With a fully fit squad Unai has some interesting choices to make. Too early for Mings and Kamara, I would think, but encouraging for the next couple of weeks.
Would be nice to be a few goals up against either Bologna or Bournemouth and give them both (particularly Mings) five minutes at the end of the game to get a bit of a clap.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
McGinn
Kamara
Onana
Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gauci, Ian, Carlos, Mings, Barkley, Ramsey, Bailey, Emi, Duran
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Seriously impressive when you see our squad depth put like that.
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
While I'm not hugely concerned about Traore, I do wonder whether you might be angering Paddy's footballing Gods a little here with your hubris.
I reckon the Gods of logic and reason, who lets be fair are not having a great time of it of late, are going to see this issue as some sort of tipping point and will be spurred into action, countering those notoriously flaky footballing ones.
No. This is god-baiting of the worst kind because he used to play for us. He's going to play so well that we'll sign him. Well done, you atheist twats!
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
McGinn
Kamara
Onana
Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gauci, Ian, Carlos, Mings, Barkley, Ramsey, Bailey, Emi, Duran
Nice.....Philogene would be unlucky though
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An attacking player scoring or assisting is always a very distinct possibility.
Not when it's Adama Traore it isn't.
While I'm not hugely concerned about Traore, I do wonder whether you might be angering Paddy's footballing Gods a little here with your hubris.
I reckon the Gods of logic and reason, who lets be fair are not having a great time of it of late, are going to see this issue as some sort of tipping point and will be spurred into action, countering those notoriously flaky footballing ones.
No. This is god-baiting of the worst kind because he used to play for us. He's going to play so well that we'll sign him. Well done, you atheist twats!
I'm not taking sides, I think we can all agree the gods are all twats, the job kind of calls for it really.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
McGinn
Tielemans
Onana
Rogers
Bailey
Watkins
Subs: Gauci, Ian, Carlos, Mings, Barkley, Ramsey, Kamara, Emi, Duran
Wouldn't rush Kamara, let's ease him back in. That subs bench with Ned and Philogene added would hold its own in the Premier League.
1-2 to the villa.
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Getting excited now. This this will be a cracking game and decided by which manager picks the best starters and finishers.
We have a fantastic squad now and a genius at the helm.
Come on you Villa boys...big win required
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Unai certainly has some selection dilemnas now, in a very good way .
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Jhon Duran's formidable goalscoring form off the bench is close to earning him a start: "I am thinking with how he is progressing how important it is for him to start these matches. Maybe tomorrow or maybe in the next games we play."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa
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4 games in 11 days , can see JD starting one or two of these games
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I think if he wasn't coming back from South America, Durán would be starting. I can see him starting against Bologna.
If only this was one of those brilliant joint match threads where we could discuss such things. I bet they have three matches at once on RAWK, we can't afford to get left behind.
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I think if he wasn't coming back from South America, Durán would be starting. I can see him starting against Bologna.
If only this was one of those brilliant joint match threads where we could discuss such things. I bet they have three matches at once on RAWK, we can't afford to get left behind.
RAWK wouldn't have ended up in cortados vs. pingados.
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It’s brilliant to have such a strong squad for the weekend.
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Please no Konsa at RB .
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Oh wow, Mings and Kamara! Kamara and Mings! It’s like Christmas!
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I think if he wasn't coming back from South America, Durán would be starting. I can see him starting against Bologna.
If only this was one of those brilliant joint match threads where we could discuss such things. I bet they have three matches at once on RAWK, we can't afford to get left behind.
RAWK wouldn't have ended up in cortados vs. pingados.
Or Búhos vs gibones
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Oh wow, Mings and Kamara! Kamara and Mings! It’s like Christmas!
I hope not, we're rubbish at Christmas. ☹️
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Watch Unai put two keepers on the bench.
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Please no Konsa at RB .
Percy! Come and do your thing.
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World needs Villa freakin London losers, that 'n' Arsenal, 3-1 Villa
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Oh wow, Mings and Kamara! Kamara and Mings! It’s like Christmas!
snow is falling
all around us
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Oh wow, Mings and Kamara! Kamara and Mings! It’s like Christmas!
snow is falling
all around us
🎄
2 goals each; scored, saved or assisted!
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Tried to get a couple of tickets for this but failed miserably. It's normally a good albeit pricey away day.
1-2. Ollie with two. Senderos for them.
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Tried to get a couple of tickets for this but failed miserably. It's normally a good albeit pricey away day.
1-2. Ollie with two. Senderos for them.
It's a great away day especially when a dodgy charlatan manager gets fired whilst your still in / around the ground .
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Please no Konsa at RB .
No Martinez in goal would be an even surer guarantee of conceding more goals.
I assume that’s what you want right?
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The first time this season we have most of the squad available, and both sides to like play attacking football.
I usually say in pre-match threads that both teams wills score.
0-0.
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I had this as a draw in the poll but with the news of our squad back to full strength I’m thinking a win for us 1-3 ok they might not take any part in this game but having them back on the coach and in the dressing room must be a massive lift for the manager, the squad and us.
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This feels like the most nailed on draw ever.*
*Which probably means it won't be.
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In the league, apart from Arsenal this will be the best side, we've met so far by some distance. They were unlucky not to get a point at Man City and in their last home match, they tore Newcastle apart, also Jimenez looks like he's back to his best. It has the making of a cracking game, I'm going 3-3.
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In the league, apart from Arsenal this will be the best side, we've met so far by some distance. They were unlucky not to get a point at Man City and in their last home match, they tore Newcastle apart, also Jimenez looks like he's back to his best. It has the making of a cracking game, I'm going 3-3.
I've seen them another couple of times where they've looked decent but nothing to be worried about.
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Hoping for a big performance today.
Sadly, Sophie’s Grandad passed away yesterday morning unexpectedly. He was a massive Villa fan too and I’ll miss our chats during the games amongst many other things.
So come on Villa, give us a big performance today please!
HEITS.
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Proper 6 pointer this .
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No. This is god-baiting of the worst kind because he used to play for us. He's going to play so well that we'll sign him. Well done, you atheist twats!
Sigh.....if they didn't realise that in 2016, when Obama declared Donald Trump would never be President of the USA, they never will.
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Proper 6 pointer this .
Huh?
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Proper 6 pointer this .
Huh?
We've played our Joker card, double points!
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Proper 6 pointer this .
Huh?
More ridiculous shit from Tim. Take no notice.
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Oh wow, Mings and Kamara! Kamara and Mings! It’s like Christmas!
I hope not, we're rubbish at Christmas. ☹️
Sorry cd, I missed this!
I saw Mings in the dugout on MOTD, so their presence was/were felt, to borrow an old Star Wars Xmas joke.