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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 29, 2024, 12:45:19 PM
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Good line-up, if it ain't broke.....
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I feel like it’s a big game for JJ today - need him driving from midfield in the absence of SJM.
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Good to see Philogene back on the bench.
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Good that Carlos and Philogene are fit after all. Not that familiar with their team although Jack Clarke can be a tricky winger.
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hopefully a bit better from him today - as we'll need him at his best on Wednesdays
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Lets hope for a improvement from carlos as he has been shite
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Lets hope for a improvement from carlos as he has been shite
I think Carlos needs a few games to get match sharp, so picked today in the hope he’s up to speed by Bayern.
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Footmob have Carlos as captain.
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The biggest danger is ourselves, players thinking about and/or being worried about missing out Bayern game.
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Hehe, look who's rocking up in defence for them...
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Win please.
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I forecast a 2-1 loss but that line-up has allayed a lot of my concerns.
Now, 2-1 to the villa.
Even a bloke is allowed to change his mind.
COYVB
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
His son.
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
His son.
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There's an echo in here.
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There's an echo in ah I can't be bothered.
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Delap is another youngster sold by Man City for decent money.
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
Help the aged.
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And they have Kalvin Mark Phillips in midfield, the one once at Leeds.
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That's the first time I've looked at their team on paper. That front three is decent and the midfield is okay too, if Phillips finds his form. Muric isn't a bad keeper. Don't know much about the defence, barring Axel. If it's any good then they could have enough this season.
Might be a tough game today.
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Should be winning this tbh, 2:0 Villa, hopefully no knocks for Bayern
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
Help the aged.
Rory is 49 now. He was born on my 6th birthday
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That's the first time I've looked at their team on paper. That front three is decent and the midfield is okay too, if Phillips finds his form. Muric isn't a bad keeper. Don't know much about the defence, barring Axel. If it's any good then they could have enough this season.
Might be a tough game today.
I agree, decent enough team. Ogbene is a good signing for them, Delap is decent, as is Hutchinson.
Ill always have a soft spot for Tuanzebe for the promotion season and that song..
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His son!
Edit: to whoever asked about Delap
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Ipswich are no mugs. The only teams who have beaten them are Man City and Liverpool. Yes, they're winless, but they aren't being battered like a lot of teams that come up after a long time outside the top flight. They also have a couple of very talented youngsters in Delap and Hutchinson. Plus some reasonable Premier league experience in key positions in Philips, Tuanzebe, Ogbene and O'Shea.
We should be beating teams like this, obviously, but I'd say they're actually a lower mid-table side rather than relegation fighters.
This won't be the walkover some are imagining.
(I hope I'm proven wrong extremely quickly, obviously)
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Ipswich are no mugs. The only teams who have beaten them are Man City and Liverpool. Yes, they're winless, but they aren't being battered like a lot of teams that come up after a long time outside the top flight. They also have a couple of very talented youngsters in Delap and Hutchinson. Plus some reasonable Premier league experience in key positions in Philips, Tuanzebe, Ogbene and O'Shea.
We should be beating teams like this, obviously, but I'd say they're actually a lower mid-table side rather than relegation fighters.
This won't be the walkover some are imagining.
(I hope I'm proven wrong extremely quickly, obviously)
Yep definitely no mugs. A dangerous from three, Ogbene is a good midfield player and Pearce is looking like a snip at the back. They invested wisely
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I’d like to see Emery rotate more for games we should be confident of winning. Especially with such a big CL on the horizon. Obviously don’t want too many changes, but had he picked say 2 for from Barkley for Onana, Maatsen for Digne or even Duran for Ollie we still should have enough about us to see the job through. We ran out of steam by the end of the season (or the MON effect as it’s also known) due to injuries to key players. Need to make sure we protect as many as possible over the course of year. Still it’s Emery and he prioritizes the league above everything, so hopefully in a couple of hours we are sitting in 2nd.
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Most of them just had the Wycombe game off.
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I think part of it with Barkley and Maatsen is they’re still bedding in and adjusting.
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I’d like to see Emery rotate more for games we should be confident of winning. Especially with such a big CL on the horizon. Obviously don’t want too many changes, but had he picked say 2 for from Barkley for Onana, Maatsen for Digne or even Duran for Ollie we still should have enough about us to see the job through. We ran out of steam by the end of the season (or the MON effect as it’s also known) due to injuries to key players. Need to make sure we protect as many as possible over the course of year. Still it’s Emery and he prioritizes the league above everything, so hopefully in a couple of hours we are sitting in 2nd.
I would have picked those three but on merit.
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I think at the moment the better idea is to start games like this strong, and make changes as early as possible. The top 9/10 teams are pretty close at the moment. We don't get all 3 points here and we're at risk of dropping to 9th the next week.
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
What about Southgates love child Kalvin Phillips?
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I think at the moment the better idea is to start games like this strong, and make changes as early as possible. The top 9/10 teams are pretty close at the moment. We don't get all 3 points here and we're at risk of dropping to 9th the next week.
Exactly. Potential banana skin here.
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Footmob have Carlos as captain.
BBC says Martinez.
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Why am I forced to watch a load of ancient history propaganda for a boring midtable clash starting over 2 hours away?
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Wow 40 years ago *today* they last beat us at their home...
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Still think it’s wrong a Cov supporter can ref this match!
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Big day for Bailey, hasn't got going yet this season and we need him to start today. Think Watkins and Rogers will have too much power for the likes of Tuanzebe and O'Shea. 4-1 win
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They're sponsored by Ed Bastard. Come on, now gotta beat these twats...
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
Help the aged.
Rory is 49 now. He was born on my 6th birthday
Yeah, but the years since about 2010 have gone so fast I think they are the equivalent of dog years. So 2010 was only 2 or 3 human years ago.
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As Emery said, we qualified for the Conference by 1 point, the CL by 2. You don't fuck around with league games.
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Players who are good but not consistent that always rip us a new one number 256. Jack Clarke.
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Their Steve Stride, I guess
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What’s this Halitosis shirt sponsor for Ipswich?
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I think I only know Tuanzebe from their team, unless, is their Delap the infamous Delap of the long throw?
Help the aged.
Rory is 49 now. He was born on my 6th birthday
I googled him to see how old he was. Born in Sutton Coldfield apparently. Came as a bit of a surprise.
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Ollie's passing a little rusty there
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First Attwell Fcuk up.
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If anyone has a river I'd appreciate it!
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Youri with first shot. Good start.
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They're sponsored by Ed Bastard. Come on, now gotta beat these twats...
The cricketer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._W._Bastard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._W._Bastard)
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How long will SJM be out for ?
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How long will SJM be out for ?
Another 2-3 weeks apparently. Which in Villa weeks is 7-8
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Ipswich score
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Martinez mistake.
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Truly remarkable. We don't give them the ball for 6 minutes. They score.
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Fuck. Some chronic defending there.
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Although we are technically admirable it’s hard to see how we wouldn’t be better off getting the ball into the box quicker!
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hows that a free kick
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12 Men 1 Villa 0.
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It would be nice to go 1-0 up in the league occassionally.
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Fuck me.
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Another great start villa well done
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konsas fault giving it away
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Had a bad feeling about this side we’ve selected
Weak defence and Onana doesn’t merit a place
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Terrible clearance by Konsa lead to that
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We had plenty of opportunity to clear that, shit defending as usual.
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Shambolic
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The referee is an absolute twat.
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Al came from the non free kick on Philips. Incompetent refereeing
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Christ on a bike. Who had the 8th minute in the "no clean sheet this week" stakes?
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Dreadful defence,
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Entirely on Martinez. Terrible. He has been off it this year.
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Shocking sloppy goal to concede again and we’re on the back foot again.
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Alan Smith is a ******, why does he have to cover our games.
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Rogers backing away from the ball ffs
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Shocking defending.
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Why is that not a free kick for shirt pulling on Ollie?
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Rubbish, Villa.
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Al came from the non free kick on Philips. Incompetent refereeing
Well yeah but we had many chances to deal with it. Our casualness in defence is terrible.
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konsas fault giving it away
I thought it was Carlos it was so lackadaisical. But it was awful and allowed them to keep the pressure on.
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rogers didnt exactly bust a gut to reach konsa's pass
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Alan Smith is a ******, why does he have to cover our games.
He's a Villa fan too
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Dismal defending from Konsa, and let's be honest, Martinez really, really needs to start saving a few of these. He's been shit this season.
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Woeful from defence and keeper
https://x.com/MCFC_Jacky/status/1840378871381647489
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Alan Smith is a ******, why does he have to cover our games.
He's a Villa fan too
He hides it incredibly well. He's like an anti-Carragher.
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Dismal defending from Konsa, and let's be honest, Martinez really, really needs to start saving a few of these. He's been shit this season.
100% He has been shite.
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How the fuck are we still so utterly fucking inept at the back. One or two games fair enough. But it’s almost every single game that make stupid errors and concede needless goals.
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Get up Torres you soft twat.
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Why don't these two commentators just declare their love for Ipswich and be done with it?
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Not buying a RB comes home to roost again.
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Are they going to be allowed to foul at will in their box?
Mutual coming together? Fucking hell
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Get up Torres you soft twat.
The fuck?
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I don’t remember seeing us concede a worse goal. Inexcusable.
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Atwell is a shit ref.
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Can we stop conceding so regularly
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It s a typical sloopy opening from us , that attack we had lot of opprtunities to clear but no and Martinez not at his best again, we try to play nice footbal and the opponents score with entushiasm when they get a seldom oppoutunity for an attack.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Get in!!
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Nice of them to gift one back.
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That's much more like it.
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Yessss, great response.
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At least we aren't the only side out there that defend like clowns.
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Yessssssss rogers !!!
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Go'on Morgan
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Get innnnnn!
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Atwell is a shit ref.
Cov supporter
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Not buying a RB comes home to roost again.
Yes, did cost us against Arsenal also IMO.
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Get up Torres you soft twat.
Come on
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Giving teams a headstart is very sporting of us.
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COYVB. Beat these twelve twats now.
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better finishing by Rogers
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Get in, equally terrible defending. Now get a grip Villa and score again.
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1-1
https://x.com/topballerskb/status/1840380453829648738
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Fcuking Carlos is atrocious.
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Get in. Now wake up
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Thank god Rogers doesn't have a stupid animal inspired nickname.
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Wooo! Rogers! Now let's settle down and do these clowns.
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If we could only stop conceding we could have nice relaxing 1-0 or 2-0 wins now and again. Having to come back from behind and win is a great trait to have but more stressful for all concerned than it needs to be.
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Yessss. That's more like it. If we could keep clean sheets we'd be fucking amazing.
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At least we aren't the only side out there that defend like clowns.
Some messy defending by Ipswich according to commentary, same as ours then
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Stupid challenge from Carlos
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Fcuking hell we are shit at the back.
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Odds of this finishing 1-1 must be very very slim.
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A typical response from us :). Also, most of our goals checked by VAR >:(
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Is Sunday making our players bigger twats, shite and ***** than normal?
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Carlos needs to calm down a bit. Delap is a sneaky twat and will wind him up.
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Midfield too open.
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We need Mings back to partner Konsa at CB sharpish, Carlos absolutely terrifies me.
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We have to do something about our RB area.
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Cannot see how Onana fits in this team
Big downgrade in Luiz and Barkley a better option
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We need Mings back to partner Konsa at CB sharpish.
And drop Pau? WTF?
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Not buying a RB comes home to roost again.
Yes, did cost us against Arsenal also IMO.
They need to be working on signing a quality RB and centre half for 1st January.
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If we could only stop conceding we could have nice relaxing 1-0 or 2-0 wins now and again. Having to come back from behind and win is a great trait to have but more stressful for all concerned than it needs to be.
When has a 1 nil or 2 nil lead ever been relaxing!???
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Should have been 2 for them. Our defence is really very poor.
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No shape to the Defence at all. They are all over the place.
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1-1
https://x.com/topballerskb/status/1840380453829648738
"Ooh la la!" when the Leicester player crosses it into the box.
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I think we’ve got the Everton version of Onana back.
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Sloppy from Pau
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We need Mings back to partner Konsa at CB sharpish.
And drop Pau? WTF?
Defensively it’s an upgrade. It’s a downgrade to how we want to bring the ball out from the back. Pau contributes massively to that.
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Cannot see how Onana fits in this team
You should have mentioned it.
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Looks like we are going to concede every time Ipswich attack us
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Mings cannot return quickly enough
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Good to get back in it quickly
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Mings cannot return quickly because it’s a Villa player and has to have the maximum time possible out.
Fixed that for you.
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This defence against Bayern isn't remotely worrying.
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Mings cannot return quickly enough
And Kamara.
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I’m glad we are playing a team with the same level of attacking menace as Bayern in preparation for the game next week.
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classic watkins isolated but still wins the free kick
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They are playing classic counter attack and hitting our flanks
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I’m glad we are playing a team with the same level of attacking menace as Bayern in preparation for the game next week.
Kane got injured yesterday. Fingers crossed he'll be out for Wednesday.
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We are too easy to attack against.
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Twatwell is awful.
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I’m glad we are playing a team with the same level of attacking menace as Bayern in preparation for the game next week.
I'd say they're more Schalke to Norwich's Dortmund.
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I want to see Onana much more involved. And Bailey to go at their full back.
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Ref isn’t giving us much.
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Barkley for Onana second half please.
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carlos had to play bailey in there
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Bailey and Onana need to be on it more.
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Shit again from Bailey.
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Shit again from Bailey.
He needs to liven up, he has been very poor.
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You know that Bailey? Has he had a new contract by any chance?
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SCOOOOOOORCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Shit again from Bailey.
He needs to liven up, he has been very poor.
He’s not had a chance to get into any kind flow this season due to not being fully fit.
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Shit again from Bailey.
He needs to liven up, he has been very poor.
In every game so far, to be honest. Nowhere near his best.
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That’s beautiful.
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Fucking superb Villa
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Bailey to Ollie. Nice.
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SEXY TIMES.
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...right on cue he does!!!
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Get in Ollie
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So much better from Bailey.
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Watkins has looked good all game.
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...right on cue he does!!!
haha
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Yessssss ollieeeeeee
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Glad the curse of my Bailey comments worked.
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Watkins has looked good all game.
Another player that needs time to get into a certain rhythm.
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Shit again from Bailey.
He needs to liven up, he has been very poor.
In every game so far, to be honest. Nowhere near his best.
Never, ever fails!
:)
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Beautiful, let's batter these tractor boys.
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greeat goal that
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Shit again from Bailey.
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That was nicely worked
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Good man, Ollie. I chose him over Palmer as my FF captain this week and have been crying about it for about 24 hours.
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From the first proper cross we put in
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Like taking candy off a baby.
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Ipswich are awful at the back, we could score a hatful today if we lift it.
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Glad the curse of my Bailey comments worked.
Fully expecting an Onana goal soon.
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Shit again from Bailey.
He's made up for it with that cross. Absolutely brilliant
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YEEEEEESSSSSSSS lovely goal!!!
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Simple!
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ollie!
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Great cross from Bailey - he heard!
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Lovely cross Bailey and good finish .
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Glad the curse of my Bailey comments worked.
thanks!
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Total Football that
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Current thinking - "we're going to batter Bayern." 5 minutes ago "I hope we don't do worse than the 9 goals Bayern scored in their first match."
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Good man, Ollie. I chose him over Palmer as my FF captain this week and have been crying about it for about 24 hours.
I switched off Watkins to Haaland on Friday. I'm loading the gun.
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My TV pics. are about 40 seconds behind PWS, which does mean I can relax when Ipswich are attacking as I know whether they are about to score or not!
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Blimey...it doesn't look that cold...
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Carlos you twat!
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That was a fantastic goal. So pleased for Bailey getting an assist as been not so effective lately. Quality goal!
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carlos wtf
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2-1
https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1840384954879951045
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Save from Emi
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Our defence is a real issue
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Great save from Martinez, but why was Phillips completely unmarked 15 yards out?
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Another Emi save.
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Fucking hell.
This is bad enough but what will it be like when it's Bayern Munich running at this defence?
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Brilliant save from Emi, but atrocious defending again. Our centre backs are wank.
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Odds of this finishing 1-2 must be very very slim.
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How much space has their forward got there?
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What a let off. Poor defending
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Great save Emi
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Defence is shockingly bad
as bad as we’ve ever been under Unai
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I take it Wmery doesn’t rate our new right back?
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Diego Carlos is utterly shit. Never mind Mings coming back, I'll bring my boots.
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Delap is giving us a lot of problems
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Jeez, Emi to the rescue
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Can't cope with Ipswich running at us. Onana offering no protection to the defence and Carlos proving a liability again.
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Defence is bloody awful
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Great shot in fairness and great save.
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Great shot in fairness and great save.
Yeah,sometimes it's just a great bit of play
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Diego Carlos is utterly shit. Never mind Mings coming back, I'll bring my boots.
That last chance was on Pau. He was off daydreaming somewhere when Delap was put through
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At least we can't say our games are boring.
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Nice to see Sir Brian sat in the stands with Ian Taylor.
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I forgot Ramsey was on the pitch.
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With the delap chance... where the ferk was Torres.. we're winning the game..and there's no defensive line/control...Got to use our noggins a lot more and apply some control
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Nice to see Sir Brian sat in the stands with Ian Taylor.
And Ty!
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Emi might be the greatest ever at that outstretched leg save
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Emi holding his snoz.
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At least we can't say our games are boring.
I’d happily take boring now and again. This ain’t good for our tickers.
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We are far to open, Onana needs to be giving the defence more cover.
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The 3 subs I would have started with as soon as you can pls Unai!
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Why do we keep getting Alan Smith on comms? He talks utter bollocks at times.
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We are far to open, Onana needs to be giving the defence more cover.
Kamara coming back will be huge. He was the key to shielding defence before he got injured.
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Nice to see Sir Brian sat in the stands with Ian Taylor.
And Ty!
Not that surprised to see Tyrone back at his old club.
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I’m glad we are playing a team with the same level of attacking menace as Bayern in preparation for the game next week.
Kane got injured yesterday. Fingers crossed he'll be out for Wednesday.
Watched the game. Kane was hopeless, barely had a kick.
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Why do we keep getting Alan Smith on commission? He talks utter bollocks at times.
Isn't he a Villa fan?
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Why do we keep getting Alan Smith on commission? He talks utter bollocks at times.
He's a boring wanker. Can't stand his drivel.
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Who/what was Watkins pointing at in the crowd after he scored?
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Diego Carlos is utterly shit. Never mind Mings coming back, I'll bring my boots.
That last chance was on Pau. He was off daydreaming somewhere when Delap was put through
Carlos was 15 yards too deep playing their entire front line on, he's a fucking liability.
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I’m glad we are playing a team with the same level of attacking menace as Bayern in preparation for the game next week.
Kane got injured yesterday. Fingers crossed he'll be out for Wednesday.
Watched the game. Kane was hopeless, barely had a kick.
Why have you done this? lol.
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"Stuart Attwell will have seen it" says commentator who obviously missed the previous 45 minutes.
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Why do we keep getting Alan Smith on comms? He talks utter bollocks at times all the time.
Fixed
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Where's the advantage there? Twat.
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Morsy booked.
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At least we can't say our games are boring.
I’d happily take boring now and again. This ain’t good for our tickers.
Put it this way, I'd like a third.
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And Delap
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Thank you Stuart. Beardy's been at it all game...
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Morsy booked.
And Delap.
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Morsy booked.
Most blatant yellow card you’ll see.
Also, Delap junior seems to be a bit of a nob
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I wonder whether the wind is stronger than it seems on the telly. We will have it to our backs in the second half.
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Some agricultural football from Ipswich.
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Why are they booing them off? Weird.
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Why do we keep getting Alan Smith on comms? He talks utter bollocks at times all the time.
Fixed
Thanks mate
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The table as it stands is looking good.
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Why are they booing them off? Weird.
Booing the ref I'd imagine
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Well, glad to be winning but worrying that we’re letting Ipswich run at us so much. Fear for the Bayern game, could be a cricket score if the team put in a performance like this.
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Some agricultural football from Ipswich.
Niggly twats, already hope they go down.
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Maybe I expect too much or maybe the players are saving themselves for midweek CL, but we don’t seem to want to take full advantage over Ipswich.
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Why are they booing them off? Weird.
They're very weird bunch in Ipswich. Lot of inbreeding in those parts. They have booed every single decision that's not gone their way.
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Morsy booked.
Most blatant yellow card you’ll see.
Also, Delap junior seems to be a bit of a nob
He'd definitely be a title contender in the World Punchable Face Championships.
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Some sloppy/Kamikaze defending.
2 great saves
Need a 3rd
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A bit slack everywhere. Carlos is just not improving, need Cash/Mings fit.
Rogers combative and niggly with them, great stuff.
Great second goal.
Onana a bit under par today.
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We will need another goal here.
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Why are they booing them off? Weird.
They're very weird bunch in Ipswich. Lot of inbreeding in those parts. They have booed every single decision that's not gone their way.
Derby are like that
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Our defence, and defending generally, is just far too casual. We need to sharpen up and make sure we don’t concede.
We’re exciting in attack but we ask too much of the attack every week. In all likelihood they’ll need to score another, because we’ll concede another sloppy goal.
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Maybe I expect too much or maybe the players are saving themselves for midweek CL, but we don’t seem to want to take full advantage over Ipswich.
I don’t think it’s that. It’s a promoted side without a win this season trying really hard and unsettling us. Throw in some very poor play from us defensively and we don’t look convincing. But these are games we need to learn to play in and overcome. We’ve not been great this season but we’ve won all but one game. It’s quite impressive.
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Some agricultural football from Ipswich.
They are called the tractor boys I think I ve heard once upon a time.
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Would swap Onana for Barkley at half time
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Carlos is a liability, and Pau, for all his excellence on the ball, defensively isn't great. We need Mings back as soon as possible.
We've just seemed way too casual across the pitch today. There is a massive difference in quality between the teams so if up the focus then we should win the game comfortably
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Would swap Onana for Barkley at half time
Being Villa's record signing always seems to be a bit of a curse
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Would swap Onana for Barkley at half time
Yep same, Amadou hasn't been great today.
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When we’ve got the ball they don’t look like they have a clue how to deal with us, but without it we look a bit disorganised. Emi M shows his class. Think we’ll win but probably a bit more squeaky bum than we’d like.
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Konsa is not a full back and Carlos is just poor so every attack seems to be down our right hand side. Happy we have decent subs on the bench, but our defence is meling them look better than they are.
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We need Duran on for Ramsey and switch with Rogers. Ndeljkovic for Carlos, Konsa to centre back and Barkley for Onana. Then later Maatsen for Digne and maybe Philogene for Bailey.
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Onana a bit under par today.
Watching him walk inside our penalty area as the Ipswich player moves past him to shoot and score is a first for me. His goals are hiding some below average performances. Right now I'd rather see Barkley playing there. At least Barkley is awake.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
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Would swap Onana for Barkley at half time
Yep same, Amadou hasn't been great today.
Id agree with this or maybe on 55/60. We also need to get to grips with Hutchinson, we shit it a bit when he runs at us. Might be worth getting Mastson on for Ramsey soon enough.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
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I do rate onana but 50m we paid too much for him. He is very inconsistent.
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Konsa for the first goal is unforgivable
Carlos just isn’t good enough
Watkins is having his best game so far
we should be controlling this game but because of our shocking defence they look like scoring every time they go forward which is ridiculous
More goals in this game hopefully for us
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We've had a good start to the season, but we've made very hard work of it against 5 of the current bottom 7.
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For all the criticism of Onana he's been better than Ramsey. He needs to do more second half.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Yeah, we're always pretty crap first half this season.
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For all the criticism of Onana he's been better than Ramsey. He needs to do more second half.
Ramsey did very well in the build up to the goal.
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I genuinely don't know how you people can have televisions in your homes. My stream just delivered an ad that used 'holiday' as a verb and nobody did anything. It's a fucking scandal.
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Onana a bit under par today.
Watching him walk inside our penalty area as the Ipswich player moves past him to shoot and score is a first for me. His goals are hiding some below average performances. Right now I'd rather see Barkley playing there. At least Barkley is awake.
There’s some truth to that. The one thing I’d point to is Onana walked into our side whereas we’ve seen other new signings being introduced more carefully. Emery talks about players understanding the process and how he wants them to play. Look how long it took for an experienced player like Tielemans. So Onana is learning on the job so he’s going to make some mistakes. He’ll only get better as other players have. Kamara for me is still the senior of the two players in the Emery system.
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Sky really do have an Ipswich love in.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
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Ned for carlos
Barkley for Onana for calmness
duran for JJ please
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For all the criticism of Onana he's been better than Ramsey. He needs to do more second half.
Ramsey isn't the same player playing with his back to goal. His strength is as a blessed ball carrier. He's doing nothing of that under these tactics.
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Sometimes Onana’s defensive play is excellent, but he has days where he’s a bit casual.
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For all the criticism of Onana he's been better than Ramsey. He needs to do more second half.
Ramsey did very well in the build up to the goal.
Yep. Not much else though. Onana was involved in Watkins goal too but still needs to do more.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
I don’t know what a lot of people are saying. But he’s been great at points, but has stuff to work on too. Not that surprising.
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How the fuck did we mess that up?!
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We've had a good start to the season, but we've made very hard work of it against 5 of the current bottom 7.
We seem to upgrade or downgrade our game to whoever we’re playing
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
Denial? He's been excellent at times this season. He's a great addition to the squad.
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Stupid yellow Digne
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Ffs digne stupid yellow
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
Denial? He's been excellent so far this season.
See!
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JJ not best ball and Rogers sometimes holds on to it too long but should have done better there
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We need Duran on for Ramsey and switch with Rogers. Ndeljkovic for Carlos, Konsa to centre back and Barkley for Onana. Then later Maatsen for Digne and maybe Philogene for Bailey.
Rogers has been very good in centre
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Ref taking instructions from Ipswich players about who to book.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
Denial? He's been excellent so far this season.
See!
See what?
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
Denial? He's been excellent so far this season.
See!
See what?
He is "seeing" your denial. Jon is pretty relentless on this.
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Well done diegoooo
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More dreadful defending.
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Think we need Barkley on for some more control.
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We cannot defend down our right.
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Surprised people are disappointed in the performance. This is what I’ve seen every game with this line up and then we get stronger when the subs come on!
Just because you see every time doesn’t mean it’s not disappointing.
True but a lot of people have been in denial about Onana before today!
Denial? He's been excellent so far this season.
See!
See what?
He is "seeing" your denial. Jon is pretty relentless on this.
It's his opinion and I get it. Onana is no Maradona but he's been a very useful addition to the squad in my opinion.
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Rogers starting to get a little frazzled
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Rogers doing some stupid fouls
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Great tackle from him just now. Rogers having a mare this half though
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FFS Bailey
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It seems the commentator wants our players to be booked
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Not intentional. FFS.
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We’re going to concede again if we keep up this casual defending.
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We look much better when we move the ball quicker. Just not done it enough yet.
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I’d take Rogers off. Seems to have disappeared this half.
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Come on, Villa. Need to get to that second ball
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Well get better after 60 mins
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Onana really isn't in this game at all
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How the fuck was that not a second yellow?
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How the fuck was that not a second yellow?
100%
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Their Nr 5 is one dirty bar steward
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Ref bottled that when he realised who it was
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Book the crowd FFS.
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Surely Morsy's last chance?
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Panda and Magic Mike time approaching.
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20,000 farmers yelling "handball" when the ball got nowhere nears Dignes hands. Twats.
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Bailey really not at it since returning from injury.
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Fucking hell Bailey
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get bailey off
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
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Get Philogene on.
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JD and Philogene coming on.
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Duran and Watkins on the pitch at the same time would frighten me to death if I were an opposition defender.
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get bailey off
Yes please. One cross, a lovely one, but nothing else of note.
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Get the panda on
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get bailey off
Yep he’s not at the races. Time for Jaden
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
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Rogers and Bailey off.
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Yet to be convinced by Phil this season but he can't be any worse than Bailey today.
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
He isn't.
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Has Bailey got indoor trainers on,
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Good decision taking those two off I think.
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
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get bailey off
Yep he’s not at the races. Time for Jaden
Philogene will be coming on for Bailey. What was Bailey's injury? He was playing as if he didn't want to trigger it again.
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I fear for us here. We’re not putting the game to bed.
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
Pandas are predominantly white.
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Jay from the Inbetweeners coming on.
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I dont think that was a foul on philiogene
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
Pandas are predominantly white.
Yeah that made no sense
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
I've always assumed because he causes pandemonium but maybe I'm just fitting a nickname to a reason
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This hasn't been a good performance. Hope it doesn't cost us.
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blimey youri what was that
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
Im confused hasnt about 20 people called duran panda on this forum ???
Its a nickname 🙂
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
Pandas are predominantly white.
Ha ha, read that back to yourself…deary me
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
He isn't.
This.
I wish people would stop.
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
I've always assumed because he causes pandemonium but maybe I'm just fitting a nickname to a reason
I thought that too.
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Blimey, Ipswich taking off two of their better players.
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Panda time. Jaden coming on also
Why is Dúran ‘Panda’?
I've always assumed because he causes pandemonium but maybe I'm just fitting a nickname to a reason
Chaos Panda apparently... like the Captain Chaos reference, especially with the southpark character in mind
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Is it just me but, I’m finding this match a bore fest?
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Is it just me but, I’m finding this match a bore fest?
No, not just you
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Too sloppy again we’re not tracking runners at all.
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How is Morsy still on the pitch.
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Should be off! Cov twat
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He should be sent off for that, never mind another yellow.
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Is it just me but, I’m finding this match a bore fest?
It’s not been a classic.
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Referee is an absolute coward.
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Get the panda on
Would you refer to a black colleague at work as ‘panda’? I suspect not.
Pandas are predominantly white.
Ha ha, read that back to yourself…deary me
OK so your logic is nobody should call him Panda because they're white animals?
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Morsy should be off ffs ref
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Second yellow, that
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How the hell is beardy still on the pitch?...
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Is it just me but, I’m finding this match a bore fest?
No, not just you
it's not great is it?
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How is their captain still on the pitch.
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Morsy is a right fouling tit isn't he?
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got to go for that
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How’s he still on the pitch? Shit fucking ref.
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2-2 Delap again.
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Wtaf? How is that dirty bastard still on the pitch?
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That was frighteningly easy for them.
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Why didn’t Konda track back?
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Should be 2-1 up against ten men, now it's two-all against eleven.
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Morsy has to go for that surely?
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Konsa, WTAF?
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We are getting what we deserve.
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Konsa has been poor as well. Another really laconic pass leads to their equaliser. Fucking rubbish and no more than we deserve because we've been shit this half.
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2-2
This defence is fucking shit. It really is
But fuck off they should be down to 10
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Fucking terrible.
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Been coming, no complaints, we’ve been crap.
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Bloody hell
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konsas fault a fucking again
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Shocking from Konsa. Absolutely atrocious.
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Down our right again.
Dumb.
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We were way too open there
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Carlos turned way to easily then
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Konsa well out of position and Carlos pathetic. Piss poor.
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Fucking hell. Konsa with a shite pass puts him out of position
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FFS appalling
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Can't complain about that, we look like we just can't be bothered today. Just look so lacklustre
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Nice one Carlos. Pathetic goal to concede. We were absolutely cruising too. Konsa had been rubbish at RB... again
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konsa....easy ball to philigene, trys a slide rule pass. ffs stay in your lane
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Pathetic again. We concede so many stupid goals. It was always going to happen.
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should have played to jaden and then he gets caight out of position . absolute lazy as fuck.
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Konsa with a shit ball to start their attack. Then Carlos wank as usual. Then crisp packet hands fails to save.
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Terrible jj just terrible
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Fucking Konsa.
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We haven't had a shot this half have we?
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2-2
https://x.com/balltopvbkj/status/1840399926317949292
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Carlos, too.
Jesus Christ
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Konsa, WTAF?
Nobody covering for him.
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JJ rubbish finish .
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Konsa and Carlos at their worst - Konsa terribly casual
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Fucking awful
Ramsey Konsa Carlos and a shit ref.
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FFS. Konsa at right back just doesn't work. He was caught way out of position there.
For all the defence has been shit the midfield has lost the ball so much during the whole game as well.
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The right side of our defense is FUBAR.
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Really poor Konsa .
Our defence is a massive issue
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Refs a disgrace unbelievable they are not down to 10
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Been coming, no complaints, we’ve been crap.
This. Far too many of them rolling around the pitch like billy big bollocks. Too many of them have been poor and saving themselves for Bayern. Konsa, Ramsey, Onana. Carlos is just shit, was turned like a ten year old girl by Delap.
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We haven't had a shot this half have we?
We haven't had one since Watkins scored.
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That's what you get for playing in third gear for half the match.
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Both of those goals squarely on Konsa. 2/10 performance, dismal.
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He fouled jaden wtf??
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Very poor
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You cannot tell me that this right side is better than Konsa-Ned. I refuse to believe it.
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Absolute shit today.
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We could lose this yet, we’ve been shite.
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Both of those goals squarely on Konsa. 2/10 performance, dismal.
We all said right back was a vital area in the summer and yet we did nothing to strengthen there
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Emery is a great manager but he royally fucked up on the RB situation.
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They should be down to 10 but that doesn't alter how bad our defending is.
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Ipswich have dominated us really. Just a poor, poor performance. Very disappointing and the defence is shocking.
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Too many thinking about Wednesday
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Both of those goals squarely on Konsa. 2/10 performance, dismal.
We all said right back was a vital area in the summer and yet we did nothing to strengthen there
Yep.
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Both of those goals squarely on Konsa. 2/10 performance, dismal.
Carlos was playing that donkey up front onside.
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We are going to lose this. Playing absolute shite
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Really haven't done enough today , sloppy all over the pitch against poor opponents . Disappointing.
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fast asleep second half
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Get Barkley on FFS
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Been coming, no complaints, we’ve been crap.
This. Far too many of them rolling around the pitch like billy big bollocks. Too many of them have been poor and saving themselves for Bayern. Konsa, Ramsey, Onana. Carlos is just shit, was turned like a ten year old girl by Delap.
Onana and Ramsey have played well second half I think. Could do with Maatsen and Barkley I think, Tielemans has been cruising a bit too much today and Digne doesn't attack any more.
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I’d take the draw now we’ve been awful.
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Got to say Unai seems to have messed up with his substitutions here for once.
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Take the draw if we have to.
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Onana has been really quiet.
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Think I’d take a draw here
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This is like Sheff U last season, shitting the bed big time.
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Our defensive play has been largely shit since January.
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Only one team looks likely to win this unfortunately
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Midfield nowhere, not winning any balls at all.
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Philogene is so lightweight
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Buendia, Ian and Barkley getting ready.
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Philogene doesn’t look anything special, I don’t understand the clamour to bring him back.
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I'm starting to think the whole team went out on the piss last night
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Been coming, no complaints, we’ve been crap.
This. Far too many of them rolling around the pitch like billy big bollocks. Too many of them have been poor and saving themselves for Bayern. Konsa, Ramsey, Onana. Carlos is just shit, was turned like a ten year old girl by Delap.
Onana and Ramsey have played well second half I think. Could do with Maatsen and Barkley I think, Tielemans has been cruising a bit too much today and Digne doesn't attack any more.
Ramsey hasn't made a single decent contribution this half.
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Philogene looks lost.
Maastsen coming on
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That was bad, Konsa moving forward with the ball, no one covering the space he left though it seems Emery screaming on the touchline nearby to get some done on that. Our style og play is not to get into players and have a fight so if we are going to win this need another superb move(s). But seems more plausible now that they fight another one into our net.
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Great challenge Pau,
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We’ve allowed Ipswich to bully us.
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FFS Ramsey, dreadful pass.
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Philogene doesn’t look anything special, I don’t understand the clamour to bring him back.
I think that was a make money deal. Club prob hoping to sell him on for more profit
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That JJ chance should have killed them off , a pass to Jaden its an easy chance. JJ been poor.
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Konsa needs to come off, or go to centre back. He has been really poor at right back today.
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If we play anywhere this bad against munich we are going to get destroyed
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We concede goals as easily as a lower/mid table side.
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FFS Ramsey, dreadful pass.
His passing and shooting has been totally off today
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Konsa and Carlos are a fucking nightmare. Constantly leaving huge gaps and getting turned.
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Digne, Tielemans and Ollie off.
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Konsa and Carlos are a fucking nightmare. Constantly leaving huge gaps and getting turned.
I agree sam
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Ramsey's been shit.
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Digne sulking.
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you have the chance to get joint top and we are so casual...it's the hope that kills you
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Boos for our ex-Norwich player...
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That JJ chance should have killed them off , a pass to Jaden its an easy chance. JJ been poor.
That's a issue I have with them, instead of a simple pass to a unmarked Philogene, Konsa trying to pass through the defence and they scored from the mistake
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Digne sulking.
He's french
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Fuck off...that was pathetic.
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you have the chance to get joint top and we are so casual...it's the hope that kills you
Shhh, you should have been sent off 10 minutes ago. 😉
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Terrible free kick.
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0 corners for us, 7 for Ipswich.
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wtf was that
;)
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Fucking hell Emi what was that?
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Fucking hell. I bet that hasn’t cheered Digne up.
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Wish I could have put on a bet as to where that Buendia free kick was going to end up!
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
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Even despite the cheating referee, we don't deserve to win this.
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Bloody dreadful freekick man
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Emery giving Emi the death stare for that one.
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
Neither did City or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' yesterday
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A good side will have a field day against us if we keep playing like this.
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We are so crap at counter attacking since diaby left
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
Neither did City or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' yesterday
Liverpool won and Man City were away at Newcastle though. Bit different.
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Good effort ross
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5 mins added time
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
Neither did City or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' yesterday
Liverpool won and Man City were away at Newcastle though. Bit different.
Still and all, they didn't look top four
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Their supporters are fucking embarrassing.
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Of course delaps fine as soon as whistle blows. Players taking advantage of this rule
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Absolute bizarre drivel about EasyJet
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this should have been such an easy 3pointer
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Konsa needs to come off, or go to centre back. He has been really poor at right back today.
He's a shocking right back...the metric merchants on here will try and say different but he's terrible with and without the ball when he plays there. All our problems have come from the Konsa/Carlos axis today
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this should have been such an easy 3pointer
It looks like that's what the players thought as well
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
Neither did City or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' yesterday
Man City looked plenty good and would have won away to Newcastle - quite a different proposition to Ipswich - if not for an incorrectly awarded penalty.
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Fair play to them they’ve played well.
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We have been shit.
Bayern are going to murder us
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Konsa needs to come off, or go to centre back. He has been really poor at right back today.
He's a shocking right back...the metric merchants on here will try and say different but he's terrible with and without the ball when he plays there. All our problems have come from the Konsa/Carlos axis today
Correct.
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We will be lucky to get out with a 2-2. One of those days we have played poorly and dropped two points.
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We don’t look like a top 4 team
Neither did City or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' yesterday
Man City looked plenty good and would have won away to Newcastle - quite a different proposition to Ipswich - if not for an incorrectly awarded penalty.
Garbage
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We dont deserved to win this game lets be honest
A very poor performance.
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Ipswich have been the better team.
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this should have been such an easy 3pointer
It looks like that's what the players thought as well
There are no ‘easy 3 pointers’ in the PL
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We have been shit.
Bayern are going to murder us
It doesn’t work like that. If we play again like this then sure I agree. I think we will be a lot better.
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Fucking grim
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It would be hard to be any worse.
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We have been pathetic thia second half
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We have been shit.
Bayern are going to murder us
Football doesn’t work like that. We will be a lot better on Wednesday
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Hang in on with bloody Ipswich. Ffs
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We’ve not been good in any of these last few games.
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We have been pathetic thia second half
And we weren't great first half.
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We have been pathetic thia second half
And we weren't great first half.
I agree rudy but much worse 2nd
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We are going to have games like this in a long season. Disappointing not to win it and play better.
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Glad that’s all over. Lucky to come out with a point.
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Pathetic
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FT
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Two points dropped
Piss pooe today
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Philogene has been poor.
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Utter crap
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Absolute crap.
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Some pretty worrying displays , we look unbalanced in midfield and the less said about the defence the better.
Not sorting out the RB position is costing us.
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We’ve not been good in any of these last few games.
Yet 5th after 6 games. Sign of a good team that we are in such a good position without even hitting our stride yet
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Rubbish. Carlos should never be on the pitch in a Villa kit ever again.
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Garbage. No intensity at all in the second half.
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Rubbish. Carlos should never be on the pitch in a Villa kit ever again.
Konsa was worse today
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While it’s great to be up there, we do really flatter to deceive.
Stuart Atwell is a shit ref.
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Very poor and defensively it’s a worry.
We haven’t lost but we have a right back on the bench who surely could’ve played today, leaving Konsa at centre half.
Maybe Wednesday is in their heads a bit but we will have to up this 10 fold to even stand a chance. A decent start to the season overall but it’s definitely 2 points dropped today.
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We are so crap at counter attacking since diaby left
Don't be ridiculous!
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Not ideal. A lot of players still settling in so overall our start has been fine. Onwards and Upwards!