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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2024, 07:30:58 PM
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Panda strikes again.
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Piece of piss. Up to 3rd. Be nice not to concede goals. Jhon Duran you fucking monster.
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We are so damn good.
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Never in doubt. Controlled it from start to finish. Watkins gets a routine double and Duran a tap-in for the easy 3-0. Or something like that anyway :D
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That will do. Up to third.
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Duran has come on as a sub and scored 3 goals so far.
They've each been winning goals.
And that's how we've got 9 points.
Captain Chaos.
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3-2 win having been two down. Possibly my favourite score-line.
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Bet West Ham wish they'd stumped up the extra few million for Duran now. He won't be that cheap any more.
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Love that chaos panda
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Good fight from the team. Defensively its poor that we haven't improved. It Calvert Lewin was any good he'd have had a hattrick.
Beautiful thunderbastard of a hit from Duran
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Tielemans, Digne, Ollie all excellent. Bogarde did very well as did Barkley.
After that I think everyone else has another level to go up. Rogers was frustrating because he nearly had a great game but the last bit just didn't happen for him.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
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Please villa . Can't we have it the easy way?
Great result anyway.
Have a good WE evrybody.
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Unreal win
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I love Chaos Panda!
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
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That was decent, in the end.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Just the sheet audacity and self belief to even try it. Utterly magnificent
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That will do. Up to third.
oh, that’s so good!( so good, so good)
Ollie’s off his oche with 2,
and Duran’s knocked another one in!
I’m ecstatic !🙌✨😃
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
We absolutely dominated the entire game. Yes two poor goals conceded but that was the most one sided team performance we’ve seen in ages.
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Not too long ago we’d have been the team 0-2 up to end up losing 3-2. A good side.
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
73% possession, 17 shots, 8 on target. We're iffy defensively but to say that isn't nearly good enough is utter nonsense.
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Bet West Ham wish they'd stumped up the extra few million for Duran now. He won't be that cheap any more.
We look better and better for sticking to our guns on the price, and they look dumber and dumber for not matching it, and then spending €27 mil on Whatshisname
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I just love the audacity and confidence of Duran getting the ball 30 yards out and thinking “I can definitely get this past England’s goalkeeper”.
I have no doubt he would have got a massive bollocking had it skimmed over the bar, but WHAT a goal! We’ll all remember that for many years to come…
Given our dominance, we should have won this game comfortably, but honestly, it just feels better to come back from 0-2 to win 3-2 than to have a routine 3-0 win.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
It's up there with the Roberto Carlos free kick and the Zidane volley Vs Leverkusen
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If we can Keep Jhon happy for another 12-18 months we have Ollie's natural successor at the club
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Great comeback Villa, absolutely brilliant from big Jhon, goal of the season already sorted!
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My Wolves mate said we would win easily, I said we will have to fight back after going behind. He scoffed, Even at 0-2 I believed, have not felt like this for decades
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excellent game for the neutral
goal of the season
sitters missed , crap defending . good to see ollie score , thought youri and Barkley was good .
Bogarde was ok to be honest and Luca is looking great .
Little Emi on and did alright . Rogers just needs to sort out the final bit and he will a top player for us for years .
could have been 8-4
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Lack of pace at the back is a worry but the subs we bought on did well.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
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we are dodgy defensively - but we keep pulling this off. Special mention to Barclay who was very assured and tried to keep it ticking. Thielemans MOTM. Digne, Ollie and Panda were great.
Bogarde was ok but offered zero threat.
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Great mentality to not let the mistakes affect us too much. Definitely a lack of sharpness across the squad still but really exciting signs there.
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Fucking get in! We were not great but man that takes alot of heart to come back like that.
Digne was motm for me.
Positives
Digne & maatsen
Ollie scores to end his duck
Panda scores a worldie
Bogarde did well at rb
Barkley impressive
Negatives
Onana so bad today
JB wasnt good when he came on
Defensively we still look really bad
Lucky we were playing everton today if that was someone else we could have lost that. Get in !!
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excellent game for the neutral
goal of the season
sitters missed , crap defending . good to see ollie score , thought youri and Barkley was good .
Bogarde was ok to be honest and Luca is looking great .
Little Emi on and did alright . Rogers just needs to sort out the final bit and he will a top player for us for years .
could have been 8-4
Agree about Morgan. His all round play is excellent, it’s just the final 5% he needs to work on.
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I thought 3-2 reflected the game well. It is ridiculous the way commentators are comparing this Everton reverse to H Bournemouth. Total different circumstance regardless of the scoreline. No way should Dyche be booted on the back of today. They'll go clear again eventually.
As for us we have shown we can overcome adversity and atone for errors. Our heads didn't drop at 0-2 like they may have done a few seasons ago
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
We absolutely dominated the entire game. Yes two poor goals conceded but that was the most one sided team performance we’ve seen in ages.
Absolutely.
In the past, Villa have been lowly and beaten superior teams against the run of play.
It’s just part of football.
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Was that a blatant push on Torres for their chance? Unbelievable winner from Duran. Balance of the team still looks off.
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
To lose back to back games from being 2-0 up is crushing.
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I thought that was flying over when he hit that. Belter of a goal. Bit dicey at back but midfield and attack very strong, everton time wasting and unambitious for long periods. Happy days.
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I thought 3-2 reflected the game well. It is ridiculous the way commentators are comparing this Everton reverse to H Bournemouth. Total different circumstance regardless of the scoreline. No way should Dyche be booted on the back of today. They'll go clear again eventually.
As for us we have shown we can overcome adversity and atone for errors. Our heads didn't drop at 0-2 like they may have done a few seasons ago
Different circumstances yes, but if we were 2-0 up two games in a row and lost both, how do you think we'd react?
We have (some) people moaning as it is, after our third win in four games.
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Wonderful attitude and spirit to come back from 0-2. Barkley changed the game alongside Tielemans and they dictated the tempo for the second half. Cracking finish from Ollie and a thunderfuck of a strike from Duran. We deserved to win, despite the odd miss pass and poor chance missed here and there. I do have a worry about Torres not being strong enough for this league. Nice passer but too many goals conceded. Morgan Rogers, when the end product gets sharper will be a fantastic player. Great to see Buendia back and I thought he played a couple of neat balls. We are a good squad although I was moaning about the lack of pace. Two or three haven't quite got going yet either, which bodes well.
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Villa are some team now. I thought we were excellent throughout. The possession we had is nuts and some of our play was beautiful. I can't wait to see where this story goes. And my word, what an astonishing goal to win it - Emi Martinez had the same reaction as me!
Brilliant to see Buendia back too, I can't wait to see what he can do under this manager.
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Never in doubt after going 2-0 down (assume collective distraction of Tuesday's game)!
Great comeback (well done Ollie) and as for Jhon's Gem...!
Welcome back the Other Emi!
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We play some cracking stuff at times in every game. If we could sort the defence out we'd be unbelievable.
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Emi should have done better for the first goal. Not been completely at the races so far this season but still wouldn't trade him for another keeper in the World.
Torres is classy. Got bullied a little physically but you don't play a lot of forwards like DCL these days. Konsa was okay. Not his best game.
Bogarde I was impressed with. Didn't do anything too standout but was disciplined positionally, tidy and composed. Knackered after 80 minutes so maybe should have gone off. Digne very good.
Tielemens was good. Onana struggled after a couple of challenges, including the one that led to their goal. Barkley came on and made a difference I thought. Very composed.
I love Rogers. The end product isn't quite there but when he figures that, he's going to be incredible. Still, those bursting runs are a joy to watch.
Ramsey was okay but could have been a bit more adventurous with taking players on.
Ollie isn't there but he was a bit sharper today. Took his goals well. It was a good game to come along when you're a striker struggling for goals.
Duran is a mercurial joy to behold. Plays 20 minutes, maybe could have had a hattrick. In fact, the header was the easiest chance he had and he fluffed it but I'll let him off because that goal wasn't too shabby. Never a dull moment with this kid.
Jadon needs a few words in his ears about silly challenges but he'll learn.
I worry about us getting caught with long balls and from set pieces and better teams will punish us if we don't tighten up.
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In its own way this was as Big Boy a win as a routine 3-1. How many times has it been us, drain-circlers going 2-0 up against the run of play at a real contender, only to leave with nothing? Everton will feel they should've scored more, and that's fair, but again we know that situation all too well. We won, and we won with a sense of inevitability. Some clean sheets would be nice, but for now the win is the only important thing.
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
Too many players not quite 100% yet. Rogers could have had three but shot them all straight at the keeper. Watkins is still with his niggles, no Bailey even though he hasn't had a great start. It's early days and we're getting the points whilst trying to introduce new players and systems.
Never thought I'd ever say I'm a big fan of Barkley but he really suits and improves the way we play. He moves the ball quicker than Tielemanns and Onana plus he's brilliant at finding space for himself, always available. Onana has a habit of marking himself out the game.
It was no classic today, at times it was so slow but right now I'm delighted with the 3 points. We made hard work of it but as Bessie Banks once sang, the best is yet to come.
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We are now such an incredibly professional football team. So many leaders, all commanded by one of the best managers in the world.
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
73% possession, 17 shots, 8 on target. We're iffy defensively but to say that isn't nearly good enough is utter nonsense.
Agree. It’s a ludicrous statement - though if we defend like that against Bayern ….
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
And just about every Matthew Le Tissier goal.
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Another One!!!
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Good fight back, and some lovely play. Very good that Ollie got a brace and Duran another sensational goal.
But bloody hell get more resilient in defence.
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Even at 2-0 I thought we'd win as long as we got one before HT.
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It was always a potential banana skin. We've had it pretty easy against Everton since coming back up (in the Prem anyway). Everton have lost their first 3 games. Everything pointed to a Villa win, and as we've seen innumerable times before that almost makes you wanna bet your mortgage on the other team doing the unexpected. Saying that, even after they were 2-0 up, we'd been so commanding (albeit a little too slow in pace), I still expected us to get back into it. We had more than enough good chances to score at least 5-6 today.
We absolutely need to improve but it wasn't a lucky win by any stretch and we controlled all but 5 minutes of the game. We won't play many as poor as Everton, nor anyone who'll defend that deep against us (which is also something we can struggle with).
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If we can Keep Jhon happy for another 12-18 months we have Ollie's natural successor at the club
That must be the plan. As Ollie ages we can phase in Duran. European qualification will be vital for that so they can both start 20-30 games.
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Desperately need a fit Tyrone who is back to his best. So open at the back. Bit of a shambles really
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Duran's goal reminded of Savo's at Wembley but with 10 times more power and 10 times closer to the top left hand corner.
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And Barkley was fantastic when he came on. Kept the ball and distributed it really well.
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Great spirit to come back in the way we did. Tielemans is an absolute Rolls Royce of a player. Well done Ollie on getting a brace. And Durans goal…fuck me you won’t see a better one this season.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
And just about every Matthew Le Tissier goal.
Adam Reach goal for Sheff Wed
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[BillMcLaren] and they'll be greetin' on Merseyside tonight [/BillMcLaren]
Youri MOTM
Thunderc@nt of the Season settled already, well done Jhon
Defensive frailties exposed
Onana had an off-day and Rogers will surely get back to his best again soon
Barkley did well when he came on
Watkins is now hopefully hitting form, as is JJ
Bogarde and Jaden got some valuable experience but need to tighten up defensively when playing together
Should have been more comfortable, but the right result in the end.
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
To lose back to back games from being 2-0 up is crushing.
Absolutely
Completely demoralising
Dont see how they pick themselves up from this. Thats woeful to have that two games on trot
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I’ve watched the goal about a hundred times so far and I swear you can hear Emery shout ‘don’t shoot’ just before he smashes it in.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/13215152/aston-villa-3-2-everton-premier-league-highlights
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
And just about every Matthew Le Tissier goal.
Adam Reach goal for Sheff Wed
Duran was a mere 30 yards out, against Everton Chris Nicholl would have considered that distance a tap in.
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Savo’s goal against Leeds was obviously magnificent and was during a cup final, so gets extra points for importance. Jhon’s goal though, was further out, hit harder and swerved more. Just outstanding in every way.
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Onana and Tielmans, Kamara and Barkley
That is some strength in depth when they’re all fit.
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/13215152/aston-villa-3-2-everton-premier-league-highlights
I cant stop watching durans goal
Am i wierd ?!
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
He was possibly offside, and it was a great defensive jab at the ball, not a miss.
VAR should have checked because Everton got the advantage with the corner.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/13215152/aston-villa-3-2-everton-premier-league-highlights
Not that I care much but these highlights and on 606 don’t show how many chances we had or the general direction of the play. Seems the narrative is very much how Everton threw it way.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Chris Nicholl.
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Another goal observation, yes it was a worldie of a strike but it also followed over 20 passes involving eight players.
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I’ve watched the goal about a hundred times so far and I swear you can hear Emery shout ‘don’t shoot’ just before he smashes it in.
I thought What a waste! … until it hit the back of the net!
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For all his genius, I wish Emery and his staff would get this defence sorted.
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
He was possibly offside, and it was a great defensive jab at the ball, not a miss.
VAR should have checked because Everton got the advantage with the corner.
If VAR checked for possible offsides before corners, games could last days.
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It’s odd but even when they were 2-0 up I knew we would win
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And Barkley was fantastic when he came on. Kept the ball and distributed it really well.
He was classy as fuck. Will be a real calming energy in moments like this
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
It was very tight for the offside and no. Pau went down far too easily
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For all his genius, I wish Emery and his staff would get this defence sorted.
I was a big critic of Carlos but we seem as weak now as when he was playing at the end of last season. DCL bullying Torres is worrying, where was Onana for that set piece they scored from?
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
I’m going to sound a bit mad now, but I feel like people have under-estimated Everton, I watched their game last week and they were so good for 87 minutes. I’d made up my mind to bet on them on my way home from work this morning but I was too busy in the end. Glad I didn’t obviously, but I did have a bad feeling.
I think they’ll be fine this season if they can get their mentality sorted out.
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
It was very tight for the offside and no. Pau went down far too easily
Calvert Lewin had Torres on toast all night long for me. Completely dominated him.
Torres is wonderful footballer but can be got at by physical types.
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
It was very tight for the offside and no. Pau went down far too easily
Calvert Lewin had Torres on toast all night long for me. Completely dominated him.
Torres is wonderful footballer but can be got at by physical types.
Exceptional on the ball but defensively not great at times
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Torres is wonderful footballer but can be got at by physical types.
He gets got at by all sorts, which is the worrying bit. It's a quandary. He's so important to the way we play, and on the ball he's 9/10 in most games. Defensively though, he's more like 5/10 far too often.
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Please make the red and white digital advertising stop.
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Great win, unbelievable goal, but boy do we needs Mings back.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
That Paul Scholes goal is the only goal against the Villa that I've applauded!
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Agree
We missed out getting an upgrade on Carlos during the close season.
Some no nonsense fucker.
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Result aside, that was not nearly good enough.
73% possession, 17 shots, 8 on target. We're iffy defensively but to say that isn't nearly good enough is utter nonsense.
Agree. It’s a ludicrous statement - though if we defend like that against Bayern ….
I’ve been worrying about that ever since Emery seemed to fall out with Carlos. I feel like we need to have a game where we bed in our big game defence from last season - Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Digne.
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My ratings from today:
Emi 1 5.5 The usual jetlagged post Argentina performance. Who cares? We love him
Dirk Bogarde 6 not a lot wrong, he’s growing into the part. His runnng style looks a bit awkward, but doubt that will be a problem.
Digne 8 Superb and assured
Konsa 7
Biff Bang Pau 6 Brilliant on the ball, weak off it and bullied by DCL, who was a constant threat today to be fair.
McGinn 6.5 Looked odd on the wing, but did well
Onana, the Polyglot 5 Dreadful mainly but did have a big hand in the first
goal. Had an off day, but I’m impressed with him as a player and a person so far.
Ramsey 6.5 With Digne, terrorised Everton’s right flank in the first half but thought he faded in the second
Rogers 6.5 What an entertainer. Tried to beat one too many players though.
Tielemans 9 Just magnificent. The equaliser will be seen as a Harrison error but the pass was so good he was at full stretch.
Ollie 8 The first goal was not spectacular but he outjumped a taller man brilliantly. Superb.
Subs
Barkley 8 Excellent, added poise, composure and wisdom
Maatsen 7 Good again
Duran 8.5 A maverick. We need them in life.
Emi 2 6 Welcome back!
Philogene 4 Nothing personal, he’ll come good, but was awful.
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Great win, unbelievable goal, but boy do we needs Mings back.
Today was the day we needed him. Id have had pau on bench for this one if mings was fit
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DCL is a decent player really. When they missed out on Duran, West Ham would have been much better going for Calvert Lewin than that German bloke they brought in.
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Different as it was volley but this a still a hit and a half
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=384676565483813
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I said at the time that had we sold Duran then DCL is the type of back up player to Ollie we should have. He’s just injured way too much, but he’s got a lot of talent.
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DCL is a decent player really. When they missed out on Duran, West Ham would have been much better going for Calvert Lewin than that German bloke they brought in.
Yeah its his injury record that lets DCL down. Newcastle wwre after him but deal fell through
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Nothing beats the McGinn volley vs Sheff Wed. Andros Townsend scored a very similar one for Palace at Man City.
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DCL is a decent player really. When they missed out on Duran, West Ham would have been much better going for Calvert Lewin than that German bloke they brought in.
Problem is Calvert Lewin never seems to strng more than 5 or 6 games together without getting injured fir 4 or 5.
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Have to say, can't remember a player who's done such a 0-100 acceleration like Duran. He's so talented it's unbelievable.
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Durans was up there with SJM against Wednesday but I still prefer SJM goal as I love the sound of the wood .
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Still buzzing. What a strike.
Ollie first touch still lacking.
Defence hopeless. I don’t think Konsa and Torres cut it. I’ve had doubts about Onana ever since Dortmund. I don’t see how he fits in. McGinn worked hard but out of position. Roger’s flits in and out.
But Maatsen, Barclay and Duran absolutely outstanding and I wouldn’t grumble at all if you were selected on Tuesday.
Well done Unai!
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3 wins out of 4 without playing at our best isn’t bad.
Defensively there’s work to do but we do play some lovely football at times. Watkins off the mark and an absolutely unbelievable strike from Duran who is developing into a top forward.
I thought Barkley did really well when he came on and moved the ball quickly.
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Goosebumps from
Durans goal , couldn’t believe it
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To obtain the results we have while not playing as well as we can and coming from two down to win, says an awful amount about the team spirit and will to win of this team. Well done Villa.
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Excellent comeback win, the positives all covered by previous posts but the biggest for me is that I don’t think we’ve even got going yet.
Off to watch that Duran goal again. My word.
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Even at 2 down, I had a feeling we'd come back. That goal was ridiculous.
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To obtain the results we have while not playing as well as we can and coming from two down to win, says an awful amount about the team spirit and will to win of this team. Well done Villa.
Absolutely. The whole “Fergie time” as much as it’s related to time added on games, really was a demonstration of mental strength. About how many times his teams found ways to get something from games despite not always playing well. They played to the very end. And Emery said something to that affect in his interview today. That we kept playing to the plan even when were 1-0 and 2-0 down. Coming back to win games was practically impossible for us as a club in the past, but we are learning it now, and importantly how to win in many different ways.
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Great result in the end. Two things today.
Did anyone see Emery going ape-shit for what seemed an age in the second half. I think his ire was aimed at Barkley ?
The other thing . I was in the Upper Trinity when Duran's thunder bolt hit the back of the net. Were the celebrations a bit muted (myself included) as supporters almost seem shocked/dazed or just unable to comprehend the strike for a few seconds after it hit home ?
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Only better struck shot I've ever seen at VP was that Paul Scholes goal against us.
That Paul Scholes goal is the only goal against the Villa that I've applauded!
I and many others applauded the Cruyff goal for Barcelona at VP in the Eufa Cup in 1978
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Agree
We missed out getting an upgrade on Carlos during the close season.
Some no nonsense fucker.
Tyrone will be back soon to give us greater defensive stability.
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If we had Bailey, I think we would have won that with a similar scoreline as last year, if not more. McGinn kept on checking back and Bogarde seemed to have been ordered to stay in a defensive three so wouldn't go forward or overlap. (Although he did a couple of times around the 68th minute and was ignored when in acres.)
Young was begging to be run at and turned and we never did.
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There was a bit of an Everton exodus when Durans ball hit the back of the net.
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For people who watched on the box, was DCL offside when he ran through and we all seemed to stop, he fucked it anyway and ended up with a corner. We were sure the flag was going to go up but it didn't.
And did he foul/trip Pau when he went through later?
He was possibly offside, and it was a great defensive jab at the ball, not a miss.
VAR should have checked because Everton got the advantage with the corner.
If VAR checked for possible offsides before corners, games could last days.
Yes! I’d love it!
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Please make the red and white digital advertising stop.
Very distracting .At certain times it gets that bright , it looks like we don't need floodlights !
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Who was the one seated to the right of Mings during the match?
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Who was the one seated to the right of Mings during the match?
Lee Carsley. England's temporary coach. Until he gets given the job full time in January.
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Big Savo sitting with a wry smile tonight.
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Start of November I'm going to start a Champions League contender thread- Premier League edition. For discussion of qualifications to Champions league Top 4 position.
No more new threads till then but that will be next one. The win today sees us 3rd in the league and come November we coud even be top!!
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If we had Bailey, I think we would have won that with a similar scoreline as last year, if not more. McGinn kept on checking back and Bogarde seemed to have been ordered to stay in a defensive three so wouldn't go forward or overlap. (Although he did a couple of times around the 68th minute and was ignored when in acres.)
Young was begging to be run at and turned and we never did.
Yes, we missed Bailey. To be fair to Everton they weren’t terrible, they put a lot of effort in but the dated football they play is the reason they are where they are.
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Tielemans, Digne, Ollie all excellent. Bogarde did very well as did Barkley.
After that I think everyone else has another level to go up. Rogers was frustrating because he nearly had a great game but the last bit just didn't happen for him.
Yep pretty fine summary. I'd also add McGinn in the excellent category. Considering how random his passing was even three years into being a premier league player his overall play on the ball has improved immeasurably under Emery compared to the chancer previously.
It's a nice problem to have but I'd like to see Maatsen in from the start sooner or later. Digne is doing well but sometimes when we get our passing triangles going we need that additional threat of a fullback with incredible pace on the overlap and Digne just can't provide it.
Maatsen did second half with the run and then cutback which Ollie hit wide. Perhaps given his run with Dortmund we'll see him starting the CL matches while Digne continues in the prem for the time being.
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DCL is a decent player really. When they missed out on Duran, West Ham would have been much better going for Calvert Lewin than that German bloke they brought in.
Problem is Calvert Lewin never seems to strng more than 5 or 6 games together without getting injured fir 4 or 5.
For me the biggest problem he has is that he's a good footballer who looks like he should be a good striker but he just isn't, he's awful 1on1, he's slow to find space on the box has no natural instinct you want in a striker. He's Heskey MK2 and I'm sure he has just as many people saying how tough he is playing against or how good he is at bringing teammates into play but he's just not a goalscorer.
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Digne has been excellent this season and has two assists already, he's really not just keeping the left back slot warm for Maatsen.
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Assuming they stay injury free they'll both start plenty of games.
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The result is all important but we are not quite clicking yet. Torres was very poor today with the ball and defensively. Tielemans man of the match for me. We missed Bailey as neither Ramsey of SJM are going to get past there markers out wide.
This is a new team and I am sure UE will get it worked out, 3 points and move on.
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Assuming they stay injury free they'll both start plenty of games.
Agree both good players with different abilities.
Wish our RB situation was as strong.
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The result is all important but we are not quite clicking yet. Torres was very poor today with the ball and defensively. Tielemans man of the match for me. We missed Bailey as neither Ramsey of SJM are going to get past there markers out wide.
This is a new team and I am sure UE will get it worked out, 3 points and move on.
Don't agree with that part at all. On the ball he did very little wrong. We didn't have the movement we normally do I thought, partly because McGinn was on the wing and partly because, for at least a long part of the first half, Rogers and Ramsey were too central and not stretching Everton.
Defensively though I fully agree. However if Torres had his passing range and was as good defensively as Mings, he would have probably been out of our price range.
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The result is all important but we are not quite clicking yet. Torres was very poor today with the ball and defensively. Tielemans man of the match for me. We missed Bailey as neither Ramsey of SJM are going to get past there markers out wide.
This is a new team and I am sure UE will get it worked out, 3 points and move on.
Don't agree with that part at all. On the ball he did very little wrong. We didn't have the movement we normally do I thought, partly because McGinn was on the wing and partly because, for at least a long part of the first half, Rogers and Ramsey were too central and not stretching Everton.
He delayed playing the ball too much, also didn’t commit to the space in front of him with the ball, I don’t remember 1 good offensive pass but he did make a number of passes direct to them.
Part of it was lack of availability as Everton were do8ng a pretty good saturation job.
Agree there was a lack of movement particularly in the 1st half.
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Tielemans, Digne, Ollie all excellent. Bogarde did very well as did Barkley.
After that I think everyone else has another level to go up. Rogers was frustrating because he nearly had a great game but the last bit just didn't happen for him.
Very good summary and so true about Rogers. It was very close to being brilliant but his final deliveries were not quite there. It will come though, that’s for sure.
Considering Bogarde is a centre back he settled in very well today.
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It was a bit of a weird match all-round. Having 80+ percent possession but going two down to a dreadful side, then clawing back to 2-2 and an absolute world class goal to win it.
Can't really draw too many conclusions from a match as nuts as that, but we won, again.
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One of the best goals I’ve ever seen at the Red and White Betano Bowl.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
I know I got the best view of both goals!
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Haven't read the thread but who was Emery going absolutely spare at during the 2nd half? It looked aimed at Tielemans however I'm not sure. I came back in the room and the boss had lost his nut.
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Luca Digne was immense today. Have really came round to this guy.
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I thought Barkley made a difference as well in the second half.
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Haven't read the thread but who was Emery going absolutely spare at during the 2nd half? It looked aimed at Tielemans however I'm not sure. I came back in the room and the boss had lost his nut.
Barkley.
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Without sounding like Fergie at his patronising best Everton can take heart from this defeat unlike last week's capitulation. I thought they played well and scored two good goals but they were done by method, aggression, effort and bravery. The better team won.
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Yeah, DCL could easily have had a hattrick there today. They'll get points off the teams around them, I reckon.
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3-2 win having been two down. Possibly my favourite score-line.
When was the last time we did this in the Prem? I know we've been on the receiving end a few times (Lesta under Sherwood, Yanit3d and Arsenal at VP no doubt).
Our last one can't be the Santa game to take us top against Arsenal in December '98, can it ?
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Haven't read the thread but who was Emery going absolutely spare at during the 2nd half? It looked aimed at Tielemans however I'm not sure. I came back in the room and the boss had lost his nut.
Barkley.
Ah, cheers. Had he done something clearly wrong that us mere mortals could see it or was it just something only Megamind had clocked?
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3-2 win having been two down. Possibly my favourite score-line.
When was the last time we did this in the Prem? I know we've been on the receiving end a few times (Lesta under Sherwood, Yanit3d and Arsenal at VP no doubt).
Our last one can't be the Santa game to take us top against Arsenal in December '98, can it ?
Sent Cov down in May 2001 with that comeback.
Was always one down at Southampton in the O'Leary years, Steven Davis scored the winner.
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Start of November I'm going to start a Champions League contender thread- Premier League edition. For discussion of qualifications to Champions league Top 4 position.
No more new threads till then but that will be next one. The win today sees us 3rd in the league and come November we coud even be top!!
you don't need to start a new thread. We have a Champions League thread and an other games thread for all games for all other teams in all competitions.
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Just watched the goal again.
Duran is ridiculously good.
£40m? That’s one of his eyebrows.
Onwards to Tuesday early evening ladies and gentlemen.
The famous Aston Villa are back in town.
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I assume he means a top 4/5 thread for qualification for the CL next season, like the one from last season. Which he, as usual, got stick for and it ended up being posted in loads.
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9 years ago this weekend was the 3-2 defeat after being 2-0 up at Leicester. One of those clubs won the the league the other were relegated. We couldn’t could we?
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I assume he means a top 4/5 thread for qualification for the CL next season, like the one from last season. Which he, as usual, got stick for and it ended up being posted in loads.
fair enough. My mistake and apologies to Footy.
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I want to see Ollie start with Duran coming on to score the 3rd.
#Insight. 8)
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If we can Keep Jhon happy for another 12-18 months we have Ollie's natural successor at the club
He is already that good. Let’s play them together like Shaw n Withe.
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Yeah, DCL could easily have had a hattrick there today. They'll get points off the teams around them, I reckon.
Could have...but he won't ever be prolific. The way he allowed Konsa nipped in front of him was dog and duck centre forward play. Unlucky with the one that smashed off the bar alright. You couldn't back him to stay fit either but he bullied Torres in duels today.
I think Everton are doomed this year, likes of Keane, Young, Coleman are nowhere near PL standard these days and still playing. So much for Dyche's defensive organisation, they leaked some amount of chances today. If likes of Watkins and Rogers were really on it today, we would have got 5 or 6 easily.
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Digne has been excellent this season and has two assists already, he's really not just keeping the left back slot warm for Maatsen.
I've been very happy with Digne last 12 months. Just feel Maatsen's extra acceleration would add more on the counter, much like Moreno when he first came in.
Think that type of LB would also help Ramsey who struggled to get into things.
It's a very nice problem to have and I'd expect Maatsen to start one of the next two games.
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For all his genius, I wish Emery and his staff would get this defence sorted.
If he does we might win the title.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Mcginn vs Sheffield Wednesday
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For all his genius, I wish Emery and his staff would get this defence sorted.
If he does we might win the title.
We might win the title but we'll still have to make do with Tom Hanks rather than Tom Brady appearing at our ground. :(
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Mcginn vs Sheffield Wednesday
McGinn for me too. The technique to crush it on the volley, in off the woodwork, makes it a better goal. Shame we fucking lost that game though. And another goal not to be forgotten is Duran vs Palace. Some fucking strike that was also and helped us to go on and win the game.
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I always have a soft spot for Staunton scoring against someone in the late 90s at VP. Was a collision between two players which created space and Stan hit it from about 35 yards and it hit the corner of post/bar and went in.
Reminded me of Duran's effort tonight. Overcoaching in modern football means we see hardly any pot shots from long range now so appreciate these strikes when you can.
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
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I always liked this one:
https://youtu.be/fSZCJH60N2o?si=sXKqwkT0g2hipxdl
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
Proper Irish goal, that (if any Ireland supporters remember what a goal for looks like).
My Dad brought me up to take long-range shots and go in for rough slide tackles, and nothing else.
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Going the shop tomorrow to get a Villa shirt for my son , he wants a Martinez one but Im going to try talk him into a Duran one after that goal and I did take him a Duran concert in Leicester , if not I might get it myself .
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Another thing beat Everton before 3 2 with a winning goal by someone who played yesterday , I really enjoyed that winner too.
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
Proper Irish goal, that (if any Ireland supporters remember what a goal for looks like).
My Dad brought me up to take long-range shots and go in for rough slide tackles, and nothing else.
Was he disappointed when you ended up in goal? 🙂. Thinking about it, I can barely name any Irish goal keepers. It's felt like the only GKs Ireland have had in my years watching is just Shay Given and now this Kelleher lad.
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Bonner.
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And before any smut, there's a double N! Weirdos.
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Bonner.
I'm off to Google him, only Bonner I know is Mark.
Edit: Don't know him, just before my time. Looking them up I had completely forgotten about Randolph. No idea who David Forde is though and he is my era.
https://www.greenmachinepodcast.com/2023/01/21/irelands-top-5-goalkeepers/
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
Proper Irish goal, that (if any Ireland supporters remember what a goal for looks like).
My Dad brought me up to take long-range shots and go in for rough slide tackles, and nothing else.
Was he disappointed when you ended up in goal? 🙂. Thinking about it, I can barely name any Irish goal keepers. It's felt like the only GKs Ireland have had in my years watching is just Shay Given and now this Kelleher lad.
Immensely, but I was only a 'keeper until I was 13 or 14. After that, at 5'10, I wasn't tall enough, so switched to RB.
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Bonner.
I'm off to Google him, only Bonner I know is Mark.
Yeah, Bonner was a bit of a legend.
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
Proper Irish goal, that (if any Ireland supporters remember what a goal for looks like).
My Dad brought me up to take long-range shots and go in for rough slide tackles, and nothing else.
Was he disappointed when you ended up in goal? 🙂. Thinking about it, I can barely name any Irish goal keepers. It's felt like the only GKs Ireland have had in my years watching is just Shay Given and now this Kelleher lad.
Immensely, but I was only a 'keeper until I was 13 or 14. After that, at 5'10, I wasn't tall enough, so switched to RB.
I'm 5'10 and played RB, also.
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Staunton
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=6178767935482970
Proper Irish goal, that (if any Ireland supporters remember what a goal for looks like).
My Dad brought me up to take long-range shots and go in for rough slide tackles, and nothing else.
Was he disappointed when you ended up in goal? 🙂. Thinking about it, I can barely name any Irish goal keepers. It's felt like the only GKs Ireland have had in my years watching is just Shay Given and now this Kelleher lad.
Immensely, but I was only a 'keeper until I was 13 or 14. After that, at 5'10, I wasn't tall enough, so switched to RB.
I'm 5'10 and played RB, also.
Brothers 😉
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The outward bend had a bit of Angel against Chelsea about it.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
I was thinking about this; the arc of the shot reminded me of the JPA goal against Chelsea in the league cup quarter final in 03/04. Also a fabulous strike.
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The outward bend had a bit of Angel against Chelsea about it.
Sorry; only saw that after I posted.
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
Just the sheet audacity and self belief to even try it. Utterly magnificent
No doubt he has plenty of both. We really do have something special on our hands.
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To obtain the results we have while not playing as well as we can and coming from two down to win, says an awful amount about the team spirit and will to win of this team. Well done Villa.
Also the squad depth. The players that come on are of a comparable standard and can address specific weaknesses that Emery has spotted.
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Pat Jennings
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Without sounding like Fergie at his patronising best Everton can take heart from this defeat unlike last week's capitulation. I thought they played well and scored two good goals but they were done by method, aggression, effort and bravery. The better team won.
Yep if they get Branthwaite fit and keep DCL so then they have enough to stay up IMO.
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9 years ago this weekend was the 3-2 defeat after being 2-0 up at Leicester. One of those clubs won the the league the other were relegated. We couldn’t could we?
Nope but I think Leicester have a good chance of the drop
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Pat Jennings
Northern Ireland
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My tuppence worth on yesterday.
Fanzone was rammed. Club shop seemed very busy. Everton didn't sell out. I got served easily a beer in the Trinity upper tier.
A woman came up outside the game trying to pass some fake 50 notes as some sort of protest against CL ticket prices I assume. She had no takers in our vicinity - rueful chuckle.
Open play - we had 70% I thought we totally controlled the game.
Martinez - first goal should have done better
Humphrey - looked nervous at times but will only get better. Needs to improve positional play as was played DCL on side for gile edged chance.
Konsa - some important challenges. Good on the ball but DCL gave him hard time.
Torres - see Konsa. Better going forward shakey at time defending
Digne - thought he had a good game overall. Great cross for the goal.
McGinn - I thought he was tentative and really not himself. Not sure he was overcompensating for Bogarde
Tielemans - excellent throughout MOTM
Onana - got done for goal but was still bossing the match prior to removal.
Barkley did well overall - tidy enough, good support act for Youri
Ramsey - some nice touches and interplay with Rogers. Real plus having him back meaning Bailey's absence was less than it should be.
Rogers - great feet just needs to work on some of his decision making. Frightening how good he is and will be.
Watkins - took the 2 goals really well. Could/should have took one or two others. Looked sharper than v Arsenal.
Subs
Maatsen did well
Duran - what can I say. What a strike.
Jayden / Emi B- not on long enough but former did well running the ball out at the end.
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Pat Jennings
Northern Ireland
That is still Ireland though.
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Pat Jennings
Northern Ireland
That is still Ireland though.
It is - just a different team to Bonner's.
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We missed Bailey, especially in the first half.
McGinn epitomises what a captain should be as he will play anywhere for the team. I thought he did really second half attacking their left back.
We’ll miss this man so much when he’s gone.
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3-2 win having been two down. Possibly my favourite score-line.
When was the last time we did this in the Prem? I know we've been on the receiving end a few times (Lesta under Sherwood, Yanit3d and Arsenal at VP no doubt).
Our last one can't be the Santa game to take us top against Arsenal in December '98, can it ?
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Jealous.
Of everyone who was at the ground and watched one of the greatest goals ever scored at VP.
Me and Junior were at my Mums birthday tea and were periodically checking the score, raging at 2-0 down inbetween mouthfuls of food. Get in the car at 2-2 and Duran is on too. I thought surely he’ll hit our 3rd.
As it hit the net I was stunned rather than excited we’d just scored as the replays of all angles, wow just wow.
Fantastic win, some shaky moments, rode our luck (crossbar) and missed some gilt edged ourselves. A new home debutant, facilities improved (from what I was told by mates in attendance) and a good way to go into the CL on Tuesday. Shirt ready!
Onwards!!!
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Very strange game - Everton are not as bad as their form suggests, yet we completely dominated the ball and imposed ourselves. Until they crossed the half way line, and then we didn’t…
We looked weak in the centre of defence - really wish Pau could beef up a bit - and while Bogarde played reasonably well considering his age and experience, the right side wasn’t really functioning, I felt.
Good job then that both left backs were outstanding. Putting Maatsen on with his ability to get 10 yards further forward than Digne, is one of our secret weapons.
Getting caught in possession facing goal is an occupational hazard for receiving centre mids, but Onana was pretty lame in this case. Although he partially redeemed himself with the pass for the first goal, you sensed that Everton had got his number, which assuming he was not injured, explains why he was hooked. Thought he showed signs of callowness, but it’s easy to forget how young he is.
Happily we have strength in depth these days; Barkley was superb when he came on, moving the ball much faster I felt than against Leicester. In view of the debates this summer (are we stronger or weaker in midfield without Dougie), the “depth factor” showed it’s full worth last night.
Tielemans was my MoM, pulling the strings from beginning to end. He excelled in both the basics of knitting things together and in the creation/vision department.
Rogers was slightly frustrating with the last touch, although he did everything right (bar beat Pickford) on his big chance. He will come good but is not yet a natural “finisher”.
Thought that other than his goals, Ollie was slightly below par in his general play - harsh, I know! The goals will do him the world of good though, obviously.
As the ball left his foot, my mind’s eye had Duran’s shot ballooning into row Z, so it took a few seconds to actually register that he’d scored. He has a scary degree of potential. Well done, Jhon.
Others somewhat below par - McGinn, Emi Martinez, Philogene - but you can’t have everything.
UTV!
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We saw some of those fake £50 notes with Heck's face on, raised a chuckle but that's all. Not sure what people were supposed to do with them?
Didn't see or hear any sort of protest either.
Having seen the highlights back, Bogarde played DCL onside when I thought he was off then was only jogging back when someone else bombed past him, after you could see Konsa telling him he should've been in line. I can't recall him overlapping McGinn, maybe once, but I suspect that was under instruction. We definitely missed Bailey or Cash down that side, McGinn cut back in 99% of the time, I thought Young had a very comfortable afternoon when I'd hoped we could attack him. Other than that I think Bogarde was fine.
Initially thought it was a foul on Pau when DCL went through again but looks like he was just weak as piss. He was a bit bullied most of the afternoon, but classy with the ball as usual.
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Start of November I'm going to start a Champions League contender thread- Premier League edition. For discussion of qualifications to Champions league Top 4 position.
No more new threads till then but that will be next one. The win today sees us 3rd in the league and come November we coud even be top!!
Well we do already have a thread called 'Champions League' in which it is possible to discuss the Champions League, our performance in the Champions League, what we think of the Champions League, future qualification for the Champions League, and, in fact anything to do with the Champions League concerning Aston Villa.
What is different about the proposed new thread?
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Luca Digne was immense today. Have really came round to this guy.
Yes, I was was watching him today and thinking that a very significant point in our current rise was him not going to Saudi last preseason.
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I am just about to watch the game on TV as I was otherwise occupied yesterday. No spoilers please!
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I am just about to watch the game on TV as I was otherwise occupied yesterday. No spoilers please!
I wouldn’t bother. It was one of those nothing games.
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I thought we dominated the game and always thought we’d come back to win after the first, we were just so superior to them. First half we didn’t move the ball quickly enough and were too narrow but that improved after Barclay came on. I thought we were crying out for some pace wide and Maatsen bought that. Don’t think I really celebrated the winner, just an awestruck ‘wow’. An incredible strike we'll be talking about in 30 years.
Not a fan of the advertising hoardings, it was like being at Walsall Illuminations. On acid.
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Yeah, we definatley needed a winger yesterday. A mention for Lucas Digne. He's really looking very impressive and another assist yesterday.
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Just got in from the game . OMFG . That was some game , great comeback , unbelievable stuff
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Yeah, we definatley needed a winger yesterday. A mention for Lucas Digne. He's really looking very impressive and another assist yesterday.
And a mention for that knobhead Danny Murphy who found yet another way to pronounce his name wrong. He called him Lucass Deenyay.
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Brilliant stuff. Even at 0-2 down, I was never in doubt we'd turn it around. Ollie off the mark, and will get better now.... Still a little fragile as he could easily have had 4 on another day.
Thought Tielemans was excellent yesterday, and is easily our most in form player, as was Barkley when he came on. Both left backs also look top quality, but we desperately need the equivalent on the right side.
Few 'negative' thoughts.... Thought Martinez could have maybe done better for both of their goals, seemed slow to get down for the first, and I think he could have been more commanding and come out and collected/punched that lofted cross for the second (*maybe I'm being a little harsh with this one).
Pau was bullied by Calvert-Lewin all afternoon, but I think this is something we have to live with... What he adds to the team with his intelligence and passing ability, more than makes up for a little defensive frailty. Might be that once Mings is fit, they alternate when playing against bruisers like DCL and Haaland?
That right side - McGinn was like a lost sheep out there. Every time he got the ball is was like a dead end. We need options there when Bailey is out, because McGinn is not it.
Anyway, a great comeback, 3rd in the league, just days from our first European Cup game in over 40 years... and that thunder bastard of a goal will live long in the memory! UTV!
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Name a better struck shot than Duran’s goal. Don’t say Savo, Jhon’s is better.
I was thinking about this; the arc of the shot reminded me of the JPA goal against Chelsea in the league cup quarter final in 03/04. Also a fabulous strike.
Matt Lowton v Stoke.
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Start of November I'm going to start a Champions League contender thread- Premier League edition. For discussion of qualifications to Champions league Top 4 position.
No more new threads till then but that will be next one. The win today sees us 3rd in the league and come November we coud even be top!!
Well we do already have a thread called 'Champions League' in which it is possible to discuss the Champions League, our performance in the Champions League, what we think of the Champions League, future qualification for the Champions League, and, in fact anything to do with the Champions League concerning Aston Villa.
What is different about the proposed new thread?
Yes, lets use that thread from now on for our permanent stay in the CL.
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As it hit the net I was stunned rather than excited we’d just scored as the replays of all angles, wow just wow.
We sit the upper north right in the centre. When he teed up I shouted "no, don't" but obviously Jhon ignored me. >:( As the ball travelled towards us looking at it's trajectory about 10 yards out it was too high and I expected it to sail over the bar by a foot. And then it was ripping the net apart. Unfuckingbelievable. For an old git I celebrated shamefully ;D
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Walking to the game yesterday at around 5.00 there was hardly anyone about
I was with my eldest daughter and son-in-law and I said are you sure we’ve got the right day
Maybe people got there a lot earlier because of the getting in fiasco last time, I don’t know
But I do know that the atmosphere was flat inside the ground yesterday, whether that was anything to do with the ticket prices I don’t know, it brightened up a bit in the second half, but that was because we came back from a 2 nill reverse, but even then it wasn’t as totally mad as it should’ve been
Happy to report that I got straight in with no problems and the bogs were not fully floating
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As it hit the net I was stunned rather than excited we’d just scored as the replays of all angles, wow just wow.
We sit the upper north right in the centre. When he teed up I shouted "no, don't" but obviously Jhon ignored me. >:( As the ball travelled towards us looking at it's trajectory about 10 yards out it was too high and I expected it to sail over the bar by a foot. And then it was ripping the net apart. Unfuckingbelievable. For an old git I celebrated shamefully ;D
I think there was probably 37000 shouting’ not from there ‘ 😃
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As it hit the net I was stunned rather than excited we’d just scored as the replays of all angles, wow just wow.
We sit the upper north right in the centre. When he teed up I shouted "no, don't" but obviously Jhon ignored me. >:( As the ball travelled towards us looking at it's trajectory about 10 yards out it was too high and I expected it to sail over the bar by a foot. And then it was ripping the net apart. Unfuckingbelievable. For an old git I celebrated shamefully ;D
From a similar position in the stand, I totally agree. It looked for all the world it was too high and then just suddenly dipped wildly down. From ground level it didn't balloon up as much as it looked though, but still spun and curled.
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Not a fan of the advertising hoardings, it was like being at Walsall Illuminations. On acid.
There speaks the voice of experience.
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I don't think I have seen one like that since Chris Nichols League Cup scorcher all those years ago.
We went the long way round to win it but we are back in top 4 so as ever onwards and upwards!
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Watched this in a pub with a lot of neutral fans as a precursor to my brother's birthday do. He was ready to cancel everything after half an hour.
I know there's a lot of laughing at Everton but it showed great resilience to come back like we did. We've become one of those annoying big clubs who don't lose very often and long may it continue.
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After the negativity recently it was great to get back to football and the positivity of Emery's reign.
So many people have remarked how they were still confident of a win even after going 2 nil down so you see what impact the manager has both on and off the field.
We seem to have more variety in the squad that enables us not only to change games but too see them out as well, it feels that we're in a different phase of Emery's tenure and so far we have absorbed the loss of Luiz fairly well. Injuries will come but hopefully our bad luck from last term has been used up.
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Why did Emery get a yellow?
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
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Why did Emery get a yellow?
For being insufficiently demanding in his way.
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Why did Emery get a yellow?
For being insufficiently demanding in his way.
I thought it was for failing to connect with our supporters.
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
To this day I’ve never worked out the rules to that game.
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Why did Emery get a yellow?
Encroached on pitch whilst shouting at Barkley.
As a fairly objective observer on the half way line I thought the atmosphere was good yesterday. Crowd silenced by Everton goals but no booing at HT as is traditional. It didn’t get loud before the end because crowd was nervous but explosion at the end.
Lots of people arrived early because of a combination of the delays last game and the 5.30 kick off meant people got there earlier as bored in the afternoon.
I would play Carlos and Barkley on Tuesday but we’ll see!
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Bollocks! Everton have scored.
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Why did Emery get a yellow?
Encroached on pitch whilst shouting at Barkley.
As a fairly objective observer on the half way line I thought the atmosphere was good yesterday. Crowd silenced by Everton goals but no booing at HT as is traditional. It didn’t get loud before the end because crowd was nervous but explosion at the end.
Lots of people arrived early because of a combination of the delays last game and the 5.30 kick off meant people got there earlier as bored in the afternoon.
I would play Carlos and Barkley on Tuesday but we’ll see!
To be fair, it looked like Unai was going to rip someone’s head off, literally.
The booking probably saved someone’s life.
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
To this day I’ve never worked out the rules to that game.
Can anyone say truthfully that they actually finished a game of ‘Escape From Colditz?’
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Unless I misheard the stat before the game yesterday we have now let multiple goals in in 10 out of the last 12 home games.
Surely this has to be addressed? konsa and Pau outmuscled yesterday
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Everton 2 up now. FFS!
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That was a lovely Toffee assist for Watkins' second.
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I also hated the flashing red and white all around the ground for most of the game. Not a fan of Villa Park being lit up to look like The Emirates!
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Looking at those boards I get the feeling that everyone in the front row is hidden behind them
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Looking at those boards I get the feeling that there everyone in the front row is hidden behind them
Are you writing in Scouse as it's Everton?
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Great game for the package fan but a defensive nightmare for us i thought. Could easily have conceded four against a side who look doomed already. We somehow managed to make Kalvert-Lewin look a threat which takes some doing. Nice to see Buendia back but he needs time for sure. Duran is proving a wonderful impact player.
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Looking at those boards I get the feeling that there everyone in the front row is hidden behind them
Are you writing in Scouse as it's Everton?
Here he is! Typo man! Calm down! Calm down!
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Quote fail
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Oh the irony. As you mess up an edit as well.
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Oh the irony. As you mess up an edit as well.
Am I in the Year 9 WhatsApp?
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Probably with your English skills. Good luck graduating soon, you can do it!
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Probably with your English skills. Good luck graduating soon, you can do it!
Rapier wit of the highest quality. I'm absolutely stunned into silence, and left staring at my phone, silently fuming. 8000 H&V members are having T-shirts printed with PWS on the back as I post. Absolutely brilliant! Keep it up!
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
To this day I’ve never worked out the rules to that game.
Can anyone say truthfully that they actually finished a game of ‘Escape From Colditz?’
Me and my mates would play this game for hours in the summer holidays. We would always make one mate be the guards. I can't remember ever finishing a game as it always ended in a fight.
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Don't you know people are dying!!!!!! In WARS!!!!!!!!
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
To this day I’ve never worked out the rules to that game.
Can anyone say truthfully that they actually finished a game of ‘Escape From Colditz?’
Me and my mates would play this game for hours in the summer holidays. We would always make one mate be the guards. I can't remember ever finishing a game as it always ended in a fight.
I had the original box with the swastika on; later versions changed to the Germanic eagle
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I am watching the game on the telly now .These balls on cones dotted around the pitch make it look like there is a giant game of Parker Brothers 'Escape from Colditz' going on.
To this day I’ve never worked out the rules to that game.
Can anyone say truthfully that they actually finished a game of ‘Escape From Colditz?’
Me and my mates would play this game for hours in the summer holidays. We would always make one mate be the guards. I can't remember ever finishing a game as it always ended in a fight.
I had the original box with the swastika on; later versions changed to the Germanic eagle
I can't tell you which box I had as I think I only opened it once. It was no Scream Inn!
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
I'm not going to say anything...
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What is there to say? :-)
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game. It dawned on me that this is how Man Utd fans must've felt playing us back in the day.
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Not the biggest fan of Peter Drury’s commentary style but he does maximum excitement for Jhon Duran’s goal
https://x.com/dantrum17/status/1835310657928909125
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game. It dawned on me that this is how Man Utd fans must've felt playing us back in the day.
Or even, last Christmas!
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I reckon that in the league it was the 4-3 over WBA. I can't think of a more recent one than that. That was nearly 11 years ago.
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Were there any Colombians in the crowd? It's time we tapped into the potential Latam fanbase further.
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Were there any Colombians in the crowd? It's time we tapped into the potential Latam fanbase further.
We need to get Shakira on board. F**k Tom Hanks.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game. It dawned on me that this is how Man Utd fans must've felt playing us back in the day.
Or even, last Christmas!
haha ouch . That spoiled boxing day night in fairness.
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Were there any Colombians in the crowd? It's time we tapped into the potential Latam fanbase further.
Lots of Cocaine scattered in the toilets
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I reckon that in the league it was the 4-3 over WBA. I can't think of a more recent one than that. That was nearly 11 years ago.
I don't remember that 4-3 vs them , i remember the one in the 80's was it opening day
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I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game.
I felt exactly the same!! A strange feeling.
Also nice for the bogs to smell of paint instead of piss and to only queue for 15 mins to get in instead of half an hour for Arsenal.
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Were there any Colombians in the crowd? It's time we tapped into the potential Latam fanbase further.
We need to get Shakira on board. F**k Tom Hanks.
I don't think Tom does those type of movies even if it is Shakira.
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cheers
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I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game.
I felt exactly the same!! A strange feeling.
Also nice for the bogs to smell of paint instead of piss and to only queue for 15 mins to get in instead of half an hour for Arsenal.
Yeah, we have enough going forward to get the goals, even if our defending needs tightening up.
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That’s the difference ultimately between us and the top 3. Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool will all concede far less than us. We can find a way to cut out even 25% of the goals we concede we are solid top 4 again this season. It’s the silly goals that keep us close to the chasing pack.
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Since the 1-0 wins over Man City and Arsenal our defence has been ropey. It will cost us if we don't fix it.
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the game probably sapped more out of us than it needed to ahead of Young Boys. Like said above if we can learn to defend better we can play these games in 3rd gear rather than reaching for 5th gear with turbo on .
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I reckon that in the league it was the 4-3 over WBA. I can't think of a more recent one than that. That was nearly 11 years ago.
Were we two down against Forest in the epic 5-5 all draw?
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I reckon that in the league it was the 4-3 over WBA. I can't think of a more recent one than that. That was nearly 11 years ago.
Were we two down against Forest in the epic 5-5 all draw?
maybe but we didn't win that one, same with Sheff U 0-3 / 3-3
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A serious query. Can anyone with medical knowledge comment on any possible risk these flashing adverts might pose to someone with epilepsy?
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As it hit the net I was stunned rather than excited we’d just scored as the replays of all angles, wow just wow.
We sit the upper north right in the centre. When he teed up I shouted "no, don't" but obviously Jhon ignored me. >:( As the ball travelled towards us looking at it's trajectory about 10 yards out it was too high and I expected it to sail over the bar by a foot. And then it was ripping the net apart. Unfuckingbelievable. For an old git I celebrated shamefully ;D
I had the opposite view to you from the lower Holte but it really did look like it was sailing over the bar. I have not seen an angle yet the fully captured both the dip and the swerve to make it an absolute worldie. There was a gasp of awe each time it was shown on the big screen and there was an excited hum around the ground for about a minute after the goal.
The upper Holte started to sing the Harry Kane chant that England fans have after that, though I couldn’t make out the words.
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A serious query. Can anyone with medical knowledge comment on any possible risk these flashing adverts might pose to someone with epilepsy?
I’m sure the other grounds that also have them must have considered the same thing ?
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I can't ever remember being 0-2 down and feeling so confident we'd win a game. It dawned on me that this is how Man Utd fans must've felt playing us back in the day.
Or even, last Christmas!
We really need to fix their fucking wagon this season.
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A serious query. Can anyone with medical knowledge comment on any possible risk these flashing adverts might pose to someone with epilepsy?
I dont think anyone here is qualified to answer that mate unless there is any neurologists about. Speak to one or your GP they better to answer that for you.
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We have some Google experts who may be able to assist.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember.
In the top flight possibly Southampton away around 2005? That's definitely the last one ai was at that I can remember.
Before that it could possibly be the "we'll be back" game.
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
Great result, marred slightly by a bit of crowd trouble.
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
Great result, marred slightly by a bit of crowd trouble.
where was the trouble?
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
Great result, marred slightly by a bit of crowd trouble.
where was the trouble?
Somewhere between the Pyrénées and the West Midlands.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
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Enjoyed that game. Three pints, no clean sheet but coming back from two down was sound.
Great result, marred slightly by a bit of crowd trouble.
where was the trouble?
Somewhere between the Pyrénées and the West Midlands.
Haha!
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Looking at the pitchside video there and our jerseys look as sweaty as last season's did?
Also, not sure what the quality is like, but Everton's away kit looks really nice. Castore just hated us, I guess.
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Yeah, I have noticed that sweaty thing returning.
Agree on that Everton kit too, very nice.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
K
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
Wow, thank you.
I was at 3 of those game . Shout out to Zat Knight , Merse, Gabby
Ended up in some interesting places in Southampton that night was around Xmas time from memory
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Even futher back 2-5 at spurs when Lineker missed a penalty.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
K
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
Wow, thank you.
I was at 3 of those game . Shout out to Zat Knight , Merse, Gabby
Ended up in some interesting places in Southampton that night was around Xmas time from memory
Zat Knight didn’t play in any of those games.
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Even futher back 2-5 at spurs when Lineker missed a penalty.
Was at that game. What an afternoon (and evening 😆)
Wasn't that on the back of a barren run where couldn't score to save our lives.
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So 5 times in 30 years, pretty piss-poor innit.
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So 5 times in 30 years, pretty piss-poor innit.
Feels like Man Utd have done in 5 times in 30 days to us.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
The Coventry game relegated them and they haven't been back since, though did go very close to doing it last season.
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Wasn't Big Ron's first game a comeback from 2-0 down against Wednesday?
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Wasn't Big Ron's first game a comeback from 2-0 down against Wednesday?
Yes
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
K
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
Wow, thank you.
I was at 3 of those game . Shout out to Zat Knight , Merse, Gabby
Ended up in some interesting places in Southampton that night was around Xmas time from memory
Zat Knight didn’t play in any of those games.
There's a game we came back , 2-2 finish?, I was dating a girl awho I'd dragged along . Zat knight scored, I ended up marrying the girl . Sliding moment night
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2-2 draw against Arsenal over Christmas one year. We’d battered them but gone 2-0 down. ‘‘Twas ever thus.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
K
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
Wow, thank you.
I was at 3 of those game . Shout out to Zat Knight , Merse, Gabby
Ended up in some interesting places in Southampton that night was around Xmas time from memory
Zat Knight didn’t play in any of those games.
There's a game we came back , 2-2 finish?, I was dating a girl awho I'd dragged along . Zat knight scored, I ended up marrying the girl . Sliding moment night
Arsenal, around Christmas time when we were competing for top four with them. Absolutely battered them all game but were somehow two down, Knight equalised with a proper twat of a shot at the death.
And there was much rejoicing.
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We went 0-2 down (1-2 on Agg) to Blackburn in the 2010 LC S/F 2nd leg. Finished up winning 6-4 on the night. Absolutely mental game.
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The Arsenal game was Boxing Day 2008.
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The second best thing about Durans goal was Emi Martinez’s face/ reaction.
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The second best thing about Durans goal was Emi Martinez’s face/ reaction.
The third best thing was that it upset Jordan Pickford.
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When did we last come from 0-2 down to win a game, it's probably more recent than i think but i cannot remember. Great resolve, discipline and resilience , defensively we look vulnerable still and that needs addressing , Mings / Cash return will help
I think PWS already said, Villa 4 West Brom 3, 2014.
K
The others in the Premier League were:
Villa 3 Arsenal 2, 1998
Tottenham 2 Villa 4, 2000
Villa 3 Coventry 2, 2001
Southampton 2 Villa 3, 2005
Wow, thank you.
I was at 3 of those game . Shout out to Zat Knight , Merse, Gabby
Ended up in some interesting places in Southampton that night was around Xmas time from memory
Zat Knight didn’t play in any of those games.
There's a game we came back , 2-2 finish?, I was dating a girl awho I'd dragged along . Zat knight scored, I ended up marrying the girl . Sliding moment night
Arsenal, around Christmas time when we were competing for top four with them. Absolutely battered them all game but were somehow two down, Knight equalised with a proper twat of a shot at the death.
And there was much rejoicing.
That was it ! That the night, When she joined in unprovoked to the "Arsene Wenger what a wanker" chants I knew I had to marry her
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The second best thing about Durans goal was Emi Martinez’s face/ reaction.
Considering he trains/plays with Messi regularly that face was telling
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
To lose back to back games from being 2-0 up is crushing.
Absolutely
Completely demoralising
Dont see how they pick themselves up from this. Thats woeful to have that two games on trot
Only the second time in the Premier League that a side has lost consecutive games having being at least 2-0 up in both.
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2-2 draw against Arsenal over Christmas one year. We’d battered them but gone 2-0 down. ‘‘Twas ever thus.
Was that Bad Santa night?
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2-2 draw against Arsenal over Christmas one year. We’d battered them but gone 2-0 down. ‘‘Twas ever thus.
Was that Bad Santa night?
No, we won that. This was under MON and Zat Knight scored the injury time equaliser. It was wild in the Holte when that went in. We should have buried them, I have memories of us hitting the post a few times. If we had won we would have gone something like 8 points clear of them and probably one foot in the top 4.
We didn't and we bottled it. The infamous Stoke job I think.
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Going the shop tomorrow to get a Villa shirt for my son , he wants a Martinez one but Im going to try talk him into a Duran one after that goal and I did take him a Duran concert in Leicester , if not I might get it myself .
Sent to the shop with my lad after the game, he went Martinez away (the green one) and it looks smart. With name, number and Champions League patch, £83!
Anyway, the guy behind us, and his lad were in the printing queue behind us and his lad had picked Ramsey and in the queue changed his mind to Duran. We agreed it made sense.
When we'd done the players were coming out so we wandered over, saw the same guy and his lad and, lo and behold, Duran came over and signed his shirt. Nice.
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We are going to come unstuck unless we start tightening up at the back. Two league clean sheets since the end of Jan and we’ve conceded two goals or more in 9 of our last 11 home league games, which is pretty poor.
Kamara will make a difference but the issues are partly masked by how free scoring we have generally been up to now.
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
To lose back to back games from being 2-0 up is crushing.
Absolutely
Completely demoralising
Dont see how they pick themselves up from this. Thats woeful to have that two games on trot
Only the second time in the Premier League that a side has lost consecutive games having being at least 2-0 up in both.
Please tell me we weren't the other club...
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What is there to say? :-)
You're in France and they don't serve pints?
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Yeah fair play to everton today they showed a lot of heart. Very unlucky not to get anything today.
I agree on rogers he is excellent but holds onto the ball too long. Needs to pass the ball at times
To lose back to back games from being 2-0 up is crushing.
Absolutely
Completely demoralising
Dont see how they pick themselves up from this. Thats woeful to have that two games on trot
Only the second time in the Premier League that a side has lost consecutive games having being at least 2-0 up in both.
Please tell me we weren't the other club...
Bournemouth I heard, and they beat Everton the next match!
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Wanted to apologise for my rather negative post on the match thread. I gave up listening after the second Everton goal went in. Have been a mardy sod on here for a while.
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The second best thing about Durans goal was Emi Martinez’s face/ reaction.
Considering he trains/plays with Messi regularly that face was telling
Yes that's a very good point.
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The Arsenal game was Boxing Day 2008.
Classic match - Villa Park was so noisy that night.
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Wanted to apologise for my rather negative post on the match thread. I gave up listening after the second Everton goal went in. Have been a mardy sod on here for a while.
Considering it was a match thread and we were losing, I doubt anyone even noticed.
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What is there to say? :-)
You're in France and they don't serve pints?
Try the magic words "Bonjour ! Une pression. Une pinte s'il vous plaît !"And you will get 50 cl of beer, which is what they think a pint is.
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Wanted to apologise for my rather negative post on the match thread. I gave up listening after the second Everton goal went in. Have been a mardy sod on here for a while.
Considering it was a match thread and we were losing, I doubt anyone even noticed.
I had a look back and looks like my post didnt post afterall. I take back my apology then!
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What is there to say? :-)
You're in France and they don't serve pints?
Try the magic words "Bonjour ! Une pression. Une pinte s'il vous plaît !"And you will get 50 cl of beer, which is what they think a pint is.
Yep, so they don't serve pints! ;-)
'Pression s'il vous plait' is etched in my mind. 'Grande!'
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Wanted to apologise for my rather negative post on the match thread. I gave up listening after the second Everton goal went in. Have been a mardy sod on here for a while.
Considering it was a match thread and we were losing, I doubt anyone even noticed.
I had a look back and looks like my post didnt post afterall. I take back my apology then!
I'm sorry you're not sorry for not being sorry.
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Can I just say how much I'm enjoying having an iffy start that's seen us take 9 points from 12.
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They don't do proper beer in France, so I don't worry about what size glass it comes in.
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Same with Newcastle, iffy start and 10 in 12. Although not enjoyable obviously.
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They don't do proper beer in France, so I don't worry about what size glass it comes in.
La Cadette is really good.
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Wanted to apologise for my rather negative post on the match thread. I gave up listening after the second Everton goal went in. Have been a mardy sod on here for a while.
Considering it was a match thread and we were losing, I doubt anyone even noticed.
I had a look back and looks like my post didnt post afterall. I take back my apology then!
I'm sorry you're not sorry for not being sorry.
Its a sorry state of affairs.
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It took a lot for me to post. Really difficult. Sorry seemed to be the hardest word.....
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Lot for Emery to digest from the game , defensively there is a lot of work to do . We got sucked into a basketball match took a lot out of the team physically .
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Can I just say how much I'm enjoying having an iffy start that's seen us take 9 points from 12.
I keep hearing the media talking about how we started the season well last year but in our first 3 games we got hammered at Newcastle and Liverpool.
Once West Ham away and Arsenal at home were out of the way, we needed to get as many points from the next 4 as we could before the runs of tougher fixtures start.
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Just watching ref watch on Sky Sports. They agreed that both Everton goals were given correctly. However I used freeze frame and for their first and McNeil definitely takes Onanas left leg away causing him to fall. As for their second goal they showed a screenshot which has a green line showing DCL to be onside but that screenshot doesn't show the free kick actually being taken so how can they be certain? It was just brushed aside with a cursory comment but in my view they did not clear it up at all.
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Just watching ref watch on Sky Sports. They agreed that both Everton goals were given correctly. However I used freeze frame and for their first and McNeil definitely takes Onanas left leg away causing him to fall. As for their second goal they showed a screenshot which has a green line showing DCL to be onside but that screenshot doesn't show the free kick actually being taken so how can they be certain? It was just brushed aside with a cursory comment but in my view they did not clear it up at all.
For the offside, the cameras are all time coded and synced so they stop on the kick being taken, then look at the same frames from the other cameras to get the best view for the offside check. Yes, there is always the "how can they tell when it left his foot", but not having them both in the same frame is certainly not a reason to suspect it is wrong when the lines are shown, and Tielemans was at least a foot ahead.
As for the first, the argument could be that Onana lost control of the ball first, then the contact was made you mentioned. I don't think it was a clear and obvious error. If the ball had stayed in front of Amadou, then he was tripped like that, I think on field it would have been a foul by the ref. But it is going away and Onana is already falling.
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We are going to come unstuck unless we start tightening up at the back. Two league clean sheets since the end of Jan and we’ve conceded two goals or more in 9 of our last 11 home league games, which is pretty poor.
Kamara will make a difference but the issues are partly masked by how free scoring we have generally been up to now.
I get why people are saying this but given how good we are going forward I don't think it's so much that we risk coming unstuck it's that we're top 6 as it stands and if we can find a way to get the defence working we'll be challenging for the top 3, maybe even the title.
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We are going to come unstuck unless we start tightening up at the back. Two league clean sheets since the end of Jan and we’ve conceded two goals or more in 9 of our last 11 home league games, which is pretty poor.
Kamara will make a difference but the issues are partly masked by how free scoring we have generally been up to now.
I get why people are saying this but given how good we are going forward I don't think it's so much that we risk coming unstuck it's that we're top 6 as it stands and if we can find a way to get the defence working we'll be challenging for the top 3, maybe even the title.
We don't want to turn into Kevin Keegan's Newcastle. Tightening up that defence is a priority. Mings Kamara and Cash coming back should help and i think Torres makes way at the back
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Were there any Colombians in the crowd? It's time we tapped into the potential Latam fanbase further.
We need to get Shakira on board.
She's changed. https://x.com/fasc1nate/status/1835732916782964943