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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on September 09, 2024, 11:31:06 AM
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Saturday 14th September, 5.30 pm, Villa Park.
3-1 FTF!
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A routine 2-0 victory. I believe we do those under Emery.
Onana and Konsa
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Think it will be trickier than expected as they desperately need a result. 2-0 home win (Bailey, and Duran with one late in the game).
Did you know that.....
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Isn't Bailey injured?
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First home win of the season vs Everton, please - as usual!
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Isn't Bailey injured?
He's a doubt, I'm an optimist.
Hope he plays as he has a decent scoring record against them. If he's out, Digne will get 'another one' against his old team.
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The league cup defeat at home last year was terrible.
They will have something to prove after the Bournemouth game
We normally beat them.
What could go wrong ?
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Isn't Bailey injured?
He's a doubt, I'm an optimist.
Hope he plays as he has a decent scoring record against them. If he's out, Digne will get 'another one' against his old team.
"Doubt" for a Villa player means 3 months out. "Doubt" for an opponent means he is guaranteed to start and score at least one.
You must know the rules by now surely!?
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Bit nervous about this one, mainly due to the fact we are overwhelming favourites .
Coleman out, Young suspended , Irogbunam returns .
------- Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Bidace
------- Watkins -------
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Didn't know Young was suspended, they might be a bit short at the back, then. Could really do with Bailey back as he often seems to terrorise these, but he's a Villa player so we will be lucky to see him before Christmas.
I'd be tempted to rest one of our midfield trio and start Barkley. If you're not playing an attacking midfielder at home to the team bottom of the league then when do you play him?
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apologies Young's suspension is complete so he might play
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If we have any pretensions of repeating the success of last season this has to be a win.
It will be a fairly comfortable routine win.
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BE's record in pre-match threads started this season is 66.67% - higher than SUE's win record as manager. Can't say fairer than that, I guess.
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Routine Villa win. 3-0
Rogers (1) Watkins (2)
Martinez
Kosta Konsa Torres Digne
Onana Tielemans
McGinn Rogers Ramsey
Watkins
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The team I dislike the most in football. 3-0 to us and hopefully more.
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Really? They're pretty inoffensive imo.
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The team I dislike the most in football. 3-0 to us and hopefully more.
Why ? They are the club most similar to us (size / history etc) and we have no real rivalry as such . I don't mind them. Unlike their neighbours.
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Win please, and a clean sheet as well.
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Really? They're pretty inoffensive imo.
Unless you happent to be celebrating a goal near the corner flag.
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The team I dislike the most in football. 3-0 to us and hopefully more.
Why ? They are the club most similar to us (size / history etc) and we have no real rivalry as such . I don't mind them. Unlike their neighbours.
In what way are they similar to us???
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The team I dislike the most in football. 3-0 to us and hopefully more.
Why ? They are the club most similar to us (size / history etc) and we have no real rivalry as such . I don't mind them. Unlike their neighbours.
In what way are they similar to us???
I don’t get the similarities either.
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
Whilst all that is true, and we are very similar in many ways, the one major difference is that they aren't even the biggest club in their city, nevermind their region.
Unlike the Villa of course.
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Yeah, if you're not even the biggest club in your own postcode, fuck off.
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
Similar age also . Both Founder members . Both seen better days etc . Someone said it might be the most played fixture too.
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Yeah, if you're not even the biggest club in your own postcode, fuck off.
A few years back if you typed `Gobshites` into google maps it took you to the L4 postcode right over Anfield. They've taken it down now.
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
Similar age also . Both Founder members . Both seen better days etc . Someone said it might be the most played fixture too.
Undefeated in last 11 Prem League matches v Everton.
Last lost to them in League in 2016
Since promoted back to Prem have played 6 won 5 and drawn one at Villa Park
Scored 11 conceded 1.
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10-0
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10-0
Will Ollie score?
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
Similar age also . Both Founder members . Both seen better days etc . Someone said it might be the most played fixture too.
Undefeated in last 11 Prem League matches v Everton.
Last lost to them in League in 2016
Since promoted back to Prem have played 6 won 5 and drawn one at Villa Park
Scored 11 conceded 1.
we did lose to them in the League Cup last season and only drew at Goodison (robbed by VAR and poor reffing)
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Bit nervous about this one, mainly due to the fact we are overwhelming favourites .
Coleman out, Young suspended , Irogbunam returns .
------- Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Bidace
------- Watkins -------
No Rogers, i think he’ll have a field day against this lot!
Im weirdly apprehensive too, but Ill go for 3-1.
Watkins (2), Rogers.
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I’m generally pretty apprehensive about Villa games, years of conditioning in that. But if we don’t win this one it’ll be a terrible result.
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I’m generally pretty apprehensive about Villa games, years of conditioning in that. But if we don’t win this one it’ll be a terrible result.
Whilst you're right, I'd be more confident if they hadn't blown that lead against Bournemouth.
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Yeah, it’d still be bloody terrible if we didn’t win though. Everton are normally better in the 3rd quarter of the season so hopefully they’ll be petrified at our place.
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This is a 'must win' game because Everton are
wshite.
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Bit nervous about this one, mainly due to the fact we are overwhelming favourites .
Coleman out, Young suspended , Irogbunam returns .
------- Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Bidace
------- Watkins -------
No Rogers, i think he’ll have a field day against this lot!
Im weirdly apprehensive too, but Ill go for 3-1.
Watkins (2), Rogers.
I totally forgot about Rogers which is ridiculous . Bidace on the bench and Rogers in . Strong side we have.
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I’m generally pretty apprehensive about Villa games, years of conditioning in that. But if we don’t win this one it’ll be a terrible result.
Whilst you're right, I'd be more confident if they hadn't blown that lead against Bournemouth.
I know exactly what you mean.
However, they lost that lead because they can't defend for toffee (pun not intended) and they are generally bloody awful.
I can't see a way in which we don't win this game.
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Bit nervous about this one, mainly due to the fact we are overwhelming favourites .
Coleman out, Young suspended , Irogbunam returns .
------- Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Bidace
------- Watkins -------
Rogers has to start
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I’m generally pretty apprehensive about Villa games, years of conditioning in that. But if we don’t win this one it’ll be a terrible result.
Whilst you're right, I'd be more confident if they hadn't blown that lead against Bournemouth.
I know exactly what you mean.
However, they lost that lead because they can't defend for toffee (pun not intended) and they are generally bloody awful.
I can't see a way in which we don't win this game.
I can absolutely see a way we can’t, but there’s no way we shouldn’t.
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Bit nervous about this one, mainly due to the fact we are overwhelming favourites .
Coleman out, Young suspended , Irogbunam returns .
------- Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Bidace
------- Watkins -------
Rogers has to start
He does , my error .
Martinez --------
Ned Konsa Torres Digne
--- Onana - Tielemans-
Ramsey -- McGinn - Rogers
------- Watkins --
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They are already playing with loads of pressure on them, especially after their latest disaster.
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After the late collapse against Bournemouth they will be frail and low on confidence, 2-0 Rogers and Onana.
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Hopefully we see Mings on the bench Saturday .
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A clean sheet should be the first target, our defending hasn't been good enough overall for far too long now.
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Hopefully we see Mings on the bench Saturday .
Doubtful i would say. I bet he will get games in the u21 cup before he even plays on bench. Id be suprised if he plays for us by October tbh
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A clean sheet should be the first target, our defending hasn't been good enough overall for far too long now.
Yep and it caught up with us in the tail end of last season. It’s so hard to sustain long sequences of positive results if you’re not having “easy” games where one goal will do.
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Our defending isn't good enough. Conceding on average 1.5 goals a game won't win you anything trophy wise.
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Sitting in the sun as I am I haven't given the game that much thought, we should win though.
For the first time in a number of years I'll be attending Villa Park sporting a frown given the recent events which is a shame following such a feelgood factor of late.
3-0
Crowd: Tetchy
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Hopefully we see Mings on the bench Saturday .
Doubtful i would say. I bet he will get games in the u21 cup before he even plays on bench. Id be suprised if he plays for us by October tbh
I disagree, Emery has form for putting players on the bench as part of their recovery (Buendia this season, Carlos at the end of 22/23). We all know he's meticulous in his planning and preperation and I suspect that means everyone in the 20 has a lot of attention given to them in the build up and he values getting players back into that side of things even if they're not quite ready to play to get them in the right mindset.
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0-2
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A nice early goal and Dycheball tactics will be in disarray and we should be able to pick them off at will.
The longer they can get entrenched in a drab game the worse it will be
Onana to destroy them
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5-0 Onana, Watkins double, Ramsey and Rogers.
I'd go with
______________Martinez
Nedjelkovic__Konsa___Torres___Maatsen
_________Onana___Tielemens
____Jaden___Rogers____Ramsey
___________Watkins
I'd give both Jaden, Duran and Barclay a game second half too.
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Don't think Digne will be dropped , he's had a great start to the season .
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5-0 Onana, Watkins double, Ramsey and Rogers.
I'd go with
______________Martinez
Nedjelkovic__Konsa___Torres___Maatsen
_________Onana___Tielemens
____Jaden___Rogers____Ramsey
___________Watkins
I'd give both Jaden, Duran and Barclay a game second half too.
No place for SJM?
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5-0 Onana, Watkins double, Ramsey and Rogers.
I'd go with
______________Martinez
Nedjelkovic__Konsa___Torres___Maatsen
_________Onana___Tielemens
____Jaden___Rogers____Ramsey
___________Watkins
I'd give both Jaden, Duran and Barclay a game second half too.
No place for SJM?
and that Jaden lad will be knackered...
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Do we know if Bailey is definitely out?
Worlds #1
Ned Konsa Pau Digne
Onana Tielemans
Bidace SJM
Rogers
Watkins
60 mins
Maasten for Digne
Ramsay for SJM
Buendia for Rogers - as all have played international football in the week
70 mins
Bogarde for Ned
Duran for Watkins - hopefully game comfortable by then
We are a very good football team now so we "should" be able to manage games against relegation fodder (and lets face it they are) with a litgtle more ease
Just like the "big" clubs do
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Here we go again! More bloody optimism.
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Nobody fancy Bogarde this week then
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Nobody fancy Bogarde this week then
Kosta for me. Have bogarde as cover for rb or konsa
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I think Everton will get something. there I have now said it so it won’t happen
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3-0 Rogers, Watkins and Ramsey
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5-0 Onana, Watkins double, Ramsey and Rogers.
I'd go with
______________Martinez
Nedjelkovic__Konsa___Torres___Maatsen
_________Onana___Tielemens
____Jaden___Rogers____Ramsey
___________Watkins
I'd give both Jaden, Duran and Barclay a game second half too.
No place for SJM?
and that Jaden lad will be knackered...
I can't remember which of the names he dropped so playing it safe, don't want a five page pile on!
I don't think McGinn has started particularly well this season, and I want us to rotate more now we have depth. We need to keep them all match fit, and Everton are rubbish so good opportunity to rest him. I'd be tempted to start Barclay over Tielemans too, but that might be a change too many.
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If we can't beat this Everton side at home we should do the honourable thing and resign from the league.
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Isn’t Konsa injured?
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Isn’t Konsa injured?
He wasn't when anyone before you posted on this thread and hopefully it's minor enough that he'll be fine to play anyway.
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Isn’t Konsa injured?
Walked gingerly off the pitch with what seemed like a fairly innocuous knock. So we will probably see him again next March .
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Emery starts several players that haven’t been away with national team squads - Barkley in for Onana or Tielemans, for example. It feels like a game to test out the much vaunted squad depth, to me.
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Their defence seems to have gone to pieces this season so hopefully that continues.
4-2
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Routine win
3-0
Onana, Watkins & Ramsey.
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I can see us winning 2-0.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Emery starts several players that haven’t been away with national team squads - Barkley in for Onana or Tielemans, for example. It feels like a game to test out the much vaunted squad depth, to me.
I'd agree as be good also to have our strongest team available for next Tuesday.
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Go strong vs Everton but then start making changes on the 60 min mark
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I’d also not be surprised to see Barkley start, and maybe Maatsen too.
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Give Tielemans a rest and go with ex-Everton midfield duo of Onana and Barkley?
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Nah, play our strongest team. I think we've not really hit top gear yet, and defensively at least we need to start getting it together, and that means playing our first choice team. Onana and Tielemans please, Barkley can come on when we're 3-0 up second half.
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Got to start with the strongest team, Hopefully Martinez isn't jet lagged he can be groggy after these long jaunts. Obviously Konsa may be a doubt now so Carlos in and Mings on the bench
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Think you have to start Onana, against a giant team like Everton.
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Got to start with the strongest team, Hopefully Martinez isn't jet lagged he can be groggy after these long jaunts. Obviously Konsa may be a doubt now so Carlos in and Mings on the bench
There's no way Tyrone will be on the bench yet I wouldn't think.
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Just fucking win please.
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Just fucking win please.
A comfortable win would be nice, it might stop people moaning about Heck for a couple of hours.
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Just fucking win please.
And keep a clean sheet! I dream of a clean sheet!!
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As a season ticket holder I bought an extra ticket for this one for a mate. Guess what? It won't download on either my phone or his. Had the same problem with the Arsenal game and the ticket office confirmed the problem was at their end. Have tried to ring over the last 24 hours and they are not accepting calls. Stand by for more chaos and disgruntlement on Saturday.
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Are we playing the Young Grasshopper Boys as soon as next week?
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As a season ticket holder I bought an extra ticket for this one for a mate. Guess what? It won't download on either my phone or his. Had the same problem with the Arsenal game and the ticket office confirmed the problem was at their end. Have tried to ring over the last 24 hours and they are not accepting calls. Stand by for more chaos and disgruntlement on Saturday.
I'm taking my lad. We're both members but he's only 9 so doesn't have a phone. I can't access his ticket through my account, and therefore I'm trying to think of the easiest way to do it. There's no emailed ticket, and I can't log in to the webpage for him to add the ticket like that.
Not sure what to do? Unless I have to log in to the app as me, download it, log out, then log back in as him, download his ticket, then log out and log back in as me?
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Are we playing the Young Grasshopper Boys as soon as next week?
Yes , Tuesday tea time (17:45) was hoping for 8pm
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I quite like the early kick offs when I'm working from home so don't have to rush back to watch it, and not attending the game. Means you still have most of the evening left at the end.
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Onana hat-trick, celebrates the third calling Dyche a "massive dinosaur playing ****" to his face.
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Meatball's live jibe at Dyche is unsurpassable.
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Are we playing the Young Grasshopper Boys as soon as next week?
Yes , Tuesday tea time (17:45) was hoping for 8pm
There may be Villa fans in the home ends as well. Fiasco.
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Meatball's live jibe at Dyche is unsurpassable.
Explain please
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Meatball's live jibe at Dyche is unsurpassable.
Explain please
https://www.sportbible.com/football/sean-dyches-alleged-argument-with-john-mcginn-is-a-thing-of-legend-20220415
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Yeah, I did love John for that.
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I hope Tim Iroegbunam gets a decent reception. By all accounts he was forced to move. The great barr man would still be here if it wasn't for PSR
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We sold him because he's absolutely nowhere near good enough for us
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We sold him because he's absolutely nowhere near good enough for us
He’s been playing really well for them. Looks a much better player this season. Could be he needed to be thrown in which, as you imply, wouldn’t have happened had he stayed.
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How's the other lad in the Tim swap, Dobbin, doin' ?
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How's the other lad in the Tim swap, Dobbin, doin' ?
He’s at a terrible club sadly, and not starting as far as I know. He’s serving his purpose though.
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Are we playing the Young Grasshopper Boys as soon as next week?
Yes; I don't think D Shaw, above, will get his clean sheets in that one.
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Are we playing the Young Grasshopper Boys as soon as next week?
Yes; I don't think D Shaw, above, will get his clean sheets in that one.
Very good! Kleen-ex more like!!
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Is ash young banned for this game ?
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Is ash young banned for this game ?
I think he's available , served his ban now
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Is ash young banned for this game ?
I think he's available , served his ban now
Thanks. I think thats a good thing for us. He struggled last season vs us form what i remember
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Is ash young banned for this game ?
I think he's available , served his ban now
Thanks. I think thats a good thing for us. He struggled last season vs us form what i remember
Yeah he set Durans goal up lovely
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Seems like they have a few defenders out. Branthwaite, another CB and possibly Coleman.
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That's a shame.
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Everton fora do not seem particularly optimistic. Seem to think that any result as long as they manage to score a goal would be acceptable.
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Everton fora do not seem particularly optimistic. Seem to think that any result as long as they manage to score a goal would be acceptable.
They're right to be, they have bad players and a terrible manager.
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Guess no injury news on watkins/bailey/konsa until tomorrow?
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Guess no injury news on watkins/bailey/konsa until tomorrow?
Cash, Carlos, Philogene too
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likely Everton line up -
Pickford
Young
Tarowski
Keane
Mykolenko
Harrison
Gana-Gueye
Irobugnam
McNeil
Doucoure
Calvert-Lewin
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Yep, that's the obvious team they'll pick and the obvious thing to do is to target the full backs.
I'd swap McGinn and Rogers and ask John to sit in a little and outnumber them in midfield. I'd then bring Maatsen in for Digne and Kosta in for Bogarde and tell them both to push on and support our wingers in overloading them out wide. 2 from 3 of the midfield can then hold their depth to cover for the counter-attack.
What we want to do is force Harrison and McNeil to be really defensive because without them getting into our 3rd they lose most of their threat going forward.
Get a couple then make a bunch of changes after 60-70mins to rest key players for our CL debut.
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Their only real hope is for DCL to try to get at Torres. We sometimes struggle with teams keeping ten men behind the ball, so they need to do this and hope they can get the odd long ball from Pickford up front, bypassing our superior midfield. We've got much more quality than them all over the park, but we need to avoid getting dragged into a war of attrition, and we need Watkins to sort his shit out.
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They are poor but they got themselves 2 up vs Bournemouth only to somehow F**k it up in the last 3 mins . We need to focus on our game, not be over-confident and not get sucked into a rugby match or game of head tennis.
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They are going to sit deep and try frustrate us. Thats their tactic.
If we play well we win as it doesnt matter what they do even on their best day our best day beats them
Hopwfully not too many bumps from internationals
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That Everton team is a tired throwback..., ageing defenders, workmanlike midfield and a pair of false forwards. They'll stink out the new stadium.
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likely Everton line up -
Pickford
Young
Tarowski
Keane
Mykolenko
Harrison
Gana-Gueye
Irobugnam
McNeil
Doucoure
Calvert-Lewin
No Ndiaye? Is he injured because most people seem to think Gueye, Irobugname and Ndiaye was running the match, the he took Ndiaye off for Doucoure and they went to pot.
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Said it before but that Everton team looks a bit 2015/16 Villa to me with its mix of old pros who are past it, and young kids who aren't ready. The only difference is that they have Dyche (who apparently knows how to escape these things) instead of Sherwood.
Losing games 2-3 was a nasty habit of ours back then too if I recall correctly.
Need to beat them anyway.
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No sign of carlos on training. Can assume he is still out
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No sign of carlos on training. Can assume he is still out
He was in the Tuesday pics so should be OK.
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likely Everton line up -
Pickford
Young
Tarowski
Keane
Mykolenko
Harrison
Gana-Gueye
Irobugnam
McNeil
Doucoure
Calvert-Lewin
Bloody hell that's an atrocious team. The worst they have ever brought to VP I reckon. Certainly in my life time.
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Bloody hell that's an atrocious team. The worst they have ever brought to VP I reckon. Certainly in my life time.
Uh-oh, famous last words.
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Have an awful feeling about this one. Crowd a bit flat after recent weeks - Everton desperate - Ollie off form. Can see a 0 - 1
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The worry is our defence can't keep a clean sheet and if Konsa is out thats a big blow
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When you think about it Everton are exactly what we were a decade ago.
September 2014 we were aimless, defensive and dull on and off the pitch. That month also memorably saw Paul Lambert awarded a new four year deal.
We had another four and a half year's of pain before we finally started moving in a consistent upward direction so I think Evertonians are being optimistic if they think a new ground will just sort everything out.
They could easily go down this season which will be a shame for Goodison's final stand but they need a reset at some stage.
3-1 win. We should be scoring a couple against their backline and you'd expect Ollie to look sharper and finally get off the mark.
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When you think about it Everton are exactly what we were a decade ago.
September 2014 we were aimless, defensive and dull on and off the pitch. That month also memorably saw Paul Lambert awarded a new four year deal.
We had another four and a half year's of pain before we finally started moving in a consistent upward direction so I think Evertonians are being optimistic if they think a new ground will just sort everything out.
They could easily go down this season which will be a shame for Goodison's final stand but they need a reset at some stage.
3-1 win. We should be scoring a couple against their backline and you'd expect Ollie to look sharper and finally get off the mark.
I agree. I think they will finally drop this season.
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Everton had lots of awful teams in the 90s & 00s pre-Moyes. This is just another one.
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We’re going to smash the fuck out of this lot. Surprised by some of the doom and gloom. They’re shit. We’re not.
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This is a game where anything other than a win is a terrible result. I do genuinely mean that, it’s just a game we have to win.
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It’s really only complacency that would allow Everton to get anything from this. I don’t think our manager or leaders in the team will allow that to happen.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Onana gets on against his old club as it adds it an extra edge on both sides.
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Anyone need a ticket or two for this one? I have 1x adult and 1x u14 in the Witton Lane stand. Me and my boy can no longer make it. Will sell both for the price of the adult ticket.
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Has there been a press conference yet? What is the injury situation?
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There is nothing certain in life other than death and taxes, so I won’t be taking anything for granted.
They did a number on us in the cup and will try a repeat performance.
They will sit deep and play long ball , they are shit at the back so an early goal would be nice.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa (or Carlos if Ezri is out)
Pau
Digne
McGinn
Onana
Tielemans
Philogene
Rogers
Ollie
Guaci, Maatsen, Bogarde, Mings (not match fit but I'd love to hear his name), Ned, Kamara (as above), JJ, Emi, Duran
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Martinez
Cash Konsa (he'll be fine) Torres Digne
Onana Tielemans
McGinn JPB
Rogers Watkins
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Similar size ground to us, big club, won mostly fuck all and making up the numbers for the last 30 years.
Similar age also . Both Founder members . Both seen better days etc . Someone said it might be the most played fixture too.
Undefeated in last 11 Prem League matches v Everton.
Last lost to them in League in 2016
Since promoted back to Prem have played 6 won 5 and drawn one at Villa Park
Scored 11 conceded 1.
we did lose to them in the League Cup last season and only drew at Goodison (robbed by VAR and poor reffing)
Yes I was only talking about Prem because the league cup match was a different thing altogether.
Undefeated against Everton and I do find it's a match at Villa Park that more likely to win and facts stat since being promoted it's the case.
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I’ve put Rogers in my fpl team for this - I’ve got a feeling he’ll help himself to a few goals tomorrow.
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All i'd like is 3 points, Watkins to score, clean sheet, no injuries. Is that too much to ask
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I’ve put Rogers in my fpl team for this - I’ve got a feeling he’ll help himself to a few goals tomorrow.
I'm with Dean Smith as I live in the real world not the fantasy word and don't partake in the game myself but I do advise friends and colleagues (and not just on Villa players)
You may be on to something, considering his ability to score goals, but there isn't enough data to imply he'll score a few. However, it is early in the season, and I believe squad rotation will be an issue as Ramsey and Buendia return. Good luck, though, as Rogers is a really dynamic player who is still raw but likely to provide long term in terms of goals and assists.
At the moment Onana and Watkins (and Duran) are the likely goal threat. Statistically they are the source of goals
Tielemans is on set pieces and Leon Bailey is proven
Unless Rogers on Penalties he's only getting points if he scores or assists. Also take into account yellow cards which lose points.
Data says Rogers hasn't had the opportunity that Onana and Watkins have had to score this season.
Rogers has created chances more than he has shots in the area
Shots in the area have the highest xg for a goal.
On that basis, Rogers has not so far been in a strong position to score altogether. He's an exciting player to watch and draws fouls as well as picking up cards. I would take Tielemans or Onana currently from a Villa midfield point of view.
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Has there been a press conference yet? What is the injury situation?
We usually do the pressers on Friday lunchtimes.
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Is Cash back training, pretty sure it was said he was out for 3-4 weeks after the Arsenal game. I know he was at that Bullring event but you can attend those even if you have a broken leg.
Can see Buendia getting minutes tomorrow if we're 2 or 3 up, he loves a goal against Everton.
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Despite not playing fantasy league, let me come on here and patronise you all with the most basics bits of information about the game. Fantastic, thank you so much
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Despite not playing fantasy league, let me come on here and patronise you all with the most basics bits of information about the game. Fantastic, thank you so much
They seem to have forgotten their schtick about predicting scorers based on random coincidences and superstitions as well.
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Can someone drop Watkins from their Fantasy team, that should secure his hatrick
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Despite not playing fantasy league, let me come on here and patronise you all with the most basics bits of information about the game. Fantastic, thank you so much
They seem to have forgotten their schtick about predicting scorers based on random coincidences and superstitions as well.
It also screams ChatGPT.
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Despite not playing fantasy league, let me come on here and patronise you all with the most basics bits of information about the game. Fantastic, thank you so much
They seem to have forgotten their schtick about predicting scorers based on random coincidences and superstitions as well.
It also screams ChatGPT.
Fill your boots: https://www.zerogpt.com/
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Fill your boots: https://www.zerogpt.com/
Just tried it with some ChatGPT prose, and it said it was 100% human! All part of the machines' ruse to take over the world I expect.
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Fill your boots: https://www.zerogpt.com/
Just tried it with some ChatGPT prose, and it said it was 100% human! All part of the machines' ruse to take over the world I expect.
FootySkillz is no Skynet, reckon we'd be in with a good chance. The syntax changes so regularly from an apparent non-native English speaker to quite obvious Ai fed prose. If its not Ai it's multiple people. It's Ai.
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Not sure the changes are a sign of AI.
When I am chatting up people in German on Grindr, I will use my German as far as I can, but will then need to use Google Translate to write some things from English for me. I'll leave the content to your imagination!
So to my German prey, it probably looks like sometimes I can barely speak German and other times I will seem almost fluent.
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Fill your boots: https://www.zerogpt.com/
Just tried it with some ChatGPT prose, and it said it was 100% human! All part of the machines' ruse to take over the world I expect.
Yeah, that's a problem. Some of my clients (understandably) have a zero AI policy and they sometimes use these things to check my work, with the opposite outcome, despite me having never been near it. 'Use your fucking eyes and just read it!' is what I shout at my screen when I get the email, before having to talk them through how it couldn't possibly be AI!
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Yeah, that's a problem. Some of my clients (understandably) have a zero AI policy and they sometimes use these things to check my work, with the opposite outcome, despite me having never been near it. 'Use your fucking eyes and just read it!' is what I shout at my screen when I get the email, before having to talk them through how it couldn't possibly be AI!
"There's no sign of any intelligence, artificial or otherwise!" ;)
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Ha!
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This will be a tough game but we’ll come through it by a couple of goals. Watkins will break his dry spell and we’ll win 3-1.
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I predict chaos getting in again. There's instructions to get it now on the official web but yet again it doesn't address the fact that lots of phones have the wallet but no NFC. It doesn't tell them what they need to do - does the season ticket barcode work or not?
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I predict chaos getting in again. There's instructions to get it now on the official web but yet again it doesn't address the fact that lots of phones have the wallet but no NFC. It doesn't tell them what they need to do - does the season ticket barcode work or not?
sorry what is nfc ?
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Near field communication. It's how tap payments work.
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Near field communication. It's how tap payments work.
In my wallet my tickets just says ' hold near reader ' ? I take it it just scans ?
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Near field communication. It's how tap payments work.
In my wallet my tickets just says ' hold near reader ' ? I take it it just scans ?
NFC is just how the reader detects your card or ticket is there and reads it.
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Edit. Can't be arsed.
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Near field communication. It's how tap payments work.
In my wallet my tickets just says ' hold near reader ' ? I take it it just scans ?
NFC is just how the reader detects your card or ticket is there and reads it.
what is wrong with good old fashioned parchment ??
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Watkins and Konsa both fine and in the squad for tomorrow according to Emery.
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I predict chaos getting in again. There's instructions to get it now on the official web but yet again it doesn't address the fact that lots of phones have the wallet but no NFC. It doesn't tell them what they need to do - does the season ticket barcode work or not?
sorry what is nfc ?
encrypted barcode basically
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Watkins and Konsa both fine and in the squad for tomorrow according to Emery.
No mention of carlos bailey or cash so assume all are out
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Watkins and Konsa both fine and in the squad for tomorrow according to Emery.
good news.
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Think he might start Ned or Maatsen tomorrow as full backs are weak link for them
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Can't see Digne being dropped, nor does he deserve to be
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
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I’ve put Rogers in my fpl team for this - I’ve got a feeling he’ll help himself to a few goals tomorrow.
I'm with Dean Smith as I live in the real world not the fantasy word and don't partake in the game myself but I do advise friends and colleagues (and not just on Villa players)
You may be on to something, considering his ability to score goals, but there isn't enough data to imply he'll score a few. However, it is early in the season, and I believe squad rotation will be an issue as Ramsey and Buendia return. Good luck, though, as Rogers is a really dynamic player who is still raw but likely to provide long term in terms of goals and assists.
At the moment Onana and Watkins (and Duran) are the likely goal threat. Statistically they are the source of goals
Tielemans is on set pieces and Leon Bailey is proven
Unless Rogers on Penalties he's only getting points if he scores or assists. Also take into account yellow cards which lose points.
Data says Rogers hasn't had the opportunity that Onana and Watkins have had to score this season.
Rogers has created chances more than he has shots in the area
Shots in the area have the highest xg for a goal.
On that basis, Rogers has not so far been in a strong position to score altogether. He's an exciting player to watch and draws fouls as well as picking up cards. I would take Tielemans or Onana currently from a Villa midfield point of view.
I concur, Footy, and I'd just like to raise a few points too:
Your analysis seems well-rounded and grounded in the realities of football statistics and player performance. Here’s a breakdown of your points with some additional observations:
Current Performance and Potential: You rightly point out that while Rogers has potential due to his dynamic play, the lack of data on his goal-scoring ability so far makes it difficult to predict his impact reliably. The early season can be unpredictable, and players often take time to hit their stride, so keeping an eye on his performance as the season progresses is wise.
Squad Rotation and Competition: Your mention of squad rotation due to the return of key players like Ramsey and Buendia is crucial. It’s a valid concern as it can affect Rogers' game time and overall contribution. The dynamics within a squad can shift rapidly, impacting player value and potential.
Key Players for Goals: Focusing on Onana, Watkins, and Duran as the primary goal threats aligns with current statistical trends. Onana’s presence, Watkins' established role, and Duran’s potential all suggest they are more likely to contribute significantly to goals in the short term.
Set Pieces and Proven Players: Tielemans’ role in set pieces and Bailey’s proven track record add another layer of consideration. Set-piece takers often have an edge in accumulating points, making Tielemans a strong candidate for consistent returns.
Rogers’ Current Position: Your observation that Rogers has created more chances than he has taken shots in the area suggests he might be more of a playmaker than a direct goal threat at this point. This aligns with the lower expected goal (xG) data you mentioned, indicating he’s less likely to score unless he can improve his shooting positions or capitalize on other opportunities.
Risks and Rewards: The potential for yellow cards and the need for Rogers to score or assist to gain points are also important considerations. Players who are frequently fouled or involved in aggressive play can be more prone to cards, impacting their overall fantasy value.
Overall, your approach to advising friends and colleagues seems balanced and data-driven. Prioritizing players like Tielemans or Onana who have proven track records and more direct goal-scoring involvement might be the safer bet for now. Keeping an eye on Rogers’ development and performance as the season progresses could reveal more about his potential value.
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Can't see Digne being dropped, nor does he deserve to be
Having strength in depth is not about dropping players really, but horses for courses. Maatsen is a very different prospect to play against than Digne
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The last vestiges Ashley Young died for me the moment he dived for a penalty against us at Old Trafford.
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He was such a class act. Absolutely electrifying at times. He would be incredible in the team with this set up.
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I remember when he was better than Messi.
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I concur, Footy, and I'd just like to raise a few points […] as the season progresses could reveal more about his potential value.
Gold. 🤩😂
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
Luckily you will see him play tomorrow. Thankfully he's mince now.
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
That was a truly unbelievable game
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
That was a truly unbelievable game
a classic
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Their fans still haven't stopped whinging about it.Im still laughing.
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Lescott 😂😂😂
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I remember when he was better than Messi.
I remember when I was better than Messi.
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
That was a truly unbelievable game
a classic
Look at me tan !
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Look at me tan !
The best shirt we've had since the 1980-81-82 era.
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Honestly thought he did that at a blues match, not that one.
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The best shirt we've had since the 1980-81-82 era.
I didn't like it much, preferred the Nike kits in the seasons before and after that one.
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In Premier League terms this was one of the greatest matches v Everton - it was away at Goodison Park
Ashley Young. Wow what a player he was.
That was a truly unbelievable game
a classic
Look at me tan !
Man i miss fanzone. That was brilliant
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Max Stokes at BMH ahead of the Everton game. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrbDSpBzDA
Nothing earth-shattering, but some behind the scenes footage and Austin McPhee outlining how he does his set-piece magic.
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The last vestiges Ashley Young died for me the moment he dived for a penalty against us at Old Trafford.
I was at the game, and for some reason unbeknownst to me they put us away fans right up in the fucking skies rather than the usual away section. I was knackered and then cramped up like a sardine. I don't think I have seen them do it again with any other away fans and I don't know why it was done at all. It's the only time I've been.
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Aston Villa forward Ollie Watkins is available after returning early from international duty due to fitness concerns.
Ezri Konsa will also be included in the matchday squad after he sustained a suspected ankle injury during England's win against Finland but Matty Cash remains out.
Everton manager Sean Dyche says that captain Seamus Coleman is "touch and go" to feature after he was forced off during the Republic of Ireland's defeat against England last weekend.
Jarrad Branthwaite and Nathan Patterson have returned to full training, while Armando Broja and Youssef Chermiti are still sidelined by injury.
Match facts
Head-to-head
This is the most played fixture in English league history. Aston Villa have won 80 games to Everton's 76, while 56 have been drawn.
Villa are unbeaten in all 10 Premier League games versus Everton since returning to the top flight in 2019, winning seven and drawing three.
Everton have won just four times in their 29 Premier League visits to Villa Park.
The last Toffees player to score a league goal at Villa Park was Romelu Lukaku in March 2016.
Aston Villa
Aston Villa can win three of their opening four matches for just the second time in the past 10 Premier League seasons.
However, Villa could lose their opening two home games of a Premier League campaign for only the second time, after 2013-14.
They have won just four of their last 12 league games at Villa Park, following a run of 15 successive victories.
Villa have conceded multiple goals in nine of their last 11 Premier League home matches.
Ollie Watkins could match his career-worst tally of going nine successive Premier League fixtures without scoring.
Jhon Duran has scored seven Premier League goals despite making only three career starts in the division. His tally of six goals as a substitute since the start of last season is the most of any Premier League player.
Everton
Everton are the third club to lose their opening three Premier League games in consecutive seasons, after Southampton and West Ham United.
The Toffees could lose their opening four league matches for the first time since 1958. They drew their fourth game of last season at Sheffield United.
They are in danger of registering five successive Premier League defeats for the first time in 19 years.
Everton are winless in 13 away matches in all competitions since a 2-0 Premier League triumph at Burnley on 16 December.
They have failed to score multiple goals in any of their last 12 league away fixtures.
Everton have lost eight of the past 10 Premier League games following an international break, including all four matches last season.
Dominic Calvert-Lewin has scored five and set up two of Everton's 12 most recent Premier League goals.
Sean Dyche is winless in all six Premier League games as a manager against Unai Emery, only avoiding defeat in Everton's goalless draw versus Villa at Goodison Park in January.
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Should be a routine win but we'll make hard work of it knowing us. They seemed to struggle from crosses into the box during their last game so it wouldn't shock me if big John started or maybe both him and Watkins. 1-3. Watkins, Duran and Maatsen. Kevin Sheedy for them.
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Everton have created lots of chances in the first few games but lost them all
I don’t think they’re as bad as everyone suggests and I also don’t think they will go down
They spanked us last year in the cup and if we take this one for granted they will do it again, this is not the time for overconfidence we must be totally focused and dominate the game, the first goal is the most important if they get it we’re in trouble if we get it, it should be all over
Watkins will start 100%, Unai’s not one for changing the starting line too often when he doesn’t have to
I’m looking for big games from McGinn, Rogers, Watkins and Bailey if he plays as they were all off it a bit against Leicester, so some strong performances today should see us through to another win
I’m going 3-0
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Just noticed that the last-gast Ashley Young winner in the 3-2 comes from Arteta mis-controlling it in midfield. Nice touch, that.
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Got to smash this lot... They stink of us pre-relegation, and I feel this could be the season they finally go down the plughole.
Villa 4-0 - Watkins off the mark with a bang.
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So, Watkins or Duran or Watkins and Duran?
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Everton have created lots of chances in the first few games but lost them all
I don’t think they’re as bad as everyone suggests and I also don’t think they will go down
They spanked us last year in the cup and if we take this one for granted they will do it again, this is not the time for overconfidence we must be totally focused and dominate the game, the first goal is the most important if they get it we’re in trouble if we get it, it should be all over
Agree with this, I don't think they are quite as bad as some are making out and we will need to be wary of a team wounded by that Bournemouth collapse. Watkins goes into this one with a bit of extra pressure on his shoulders , he simply cannot keep missing big chances. I don't think we will keep a clean sheet either so i'm expecting another tough afternoon.
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So, Watkins or Duran or Watkins and Duran?
Maybe this needs a new thread with some AI bot moderating.
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Re: That Everton-Villa game. It was a fantastic end to the game. Them making it 2-2 in stoppage time, taking the piss out of us only for Young to pop up with the winner.
But they dominated us for long spells in that game so I wouldn't say it was a fantastic game for that reason.
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So, Watkins or Duran or Watkins and Duran?
Yes, it will be one of those.
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My choice of trainers for the game today is bought to you (potentially) by Chris Heck's Golden Rivers of Piss where the customer always makes a splash.
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I’d like to see Duran start today because he’s deserved the opportunity by his form, more than it signals we’ve dropped Ollie. By the same token Ollie should start in the CL because he’s deserved that opportunity because his goals are a large part why we are even in the CL. We need to be comfortable rotating between the two with Ollie still playing the majority of games from the start.
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I want to see Ollie start with Duran coming on to score the 3rd and 4th.
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Ollie starts, Ramsey in for Bailey.
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Should be in top four by close of play. Onwards and upwards!
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The last vestiges Ashley Young died for me the moment he dived for a penalty against us at Old Trafford.
I was at the game, and for some reason unbeknownst to me they put us away fans right up in the fucking skies rather than the usual away section. I was knackered and then cramped up like a sardine. I don't think I have seen them do it again with any other away fans and I don't know why it was done at all. It's the only time I've been.
Yeah, I remember. Never been in that but before or since, but we could see the dive from there clearly!
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I’ve put Rogers in my fpl team for this - I’ve got a feeling he’ll help himself to a few goals tomorrow.
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At the moment Onana and Watkins (and Duran) are the likely goal threat. Statistically they are the source of goals……
Next time I’ll take your advice Footy!