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Title: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 05:53:46 PM
2024-2025 is here.

Saturday 17th August 2024 at the state-funded free stadium in Stratford. 5.30 pm UK time.

West Ham 1 Aston Villa 3

FTCBBKSF!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on August 10, 2024, 05:54:56 PM
In there first BE, scoooooooorechio? ;)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 10, 2024, 05:57:30 PM
Crap pre season.
Now the first proper match thread of the season has no poll.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 05:57:53 PM
In there first BE, scoooooooorechio? ;)
I don't care about that any more. If they want to do that, who am I to comment? You have to be inclusive in society.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 05:58:57 PM
Now the first proper match thread of the season has no poll.
There is a poll.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 10, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
I think Ollie Watkins should play.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on August 10, 2024, 06:03:04 PM
In there first BE, scoooooooorechio? ;)
I don't care about they any more. If they want to do that, who am I to comment? You have to be inclusive in society.

Watching England in June with my daughter’s boyfriend and he was 2 minutes ahead of my TV. When we got that late equaliser I was fuming when he let on. How bloody annoying and a right anti-climax, so I do understand where you’re coming from. However when I have no available stream I do like PWS’s scoooooooorchio.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on August 10, 2024, 06:04:03 PM
Anyway, we might as well get used to an opening day defeat. 2-0 West Ham, I’m not confident at all.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 06:04:20 PM
I have become woke and loving of everyone.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 06:04:50 PM
No way. We are going to funeral these.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 10, 2024, 06:05:14 PM
Even putting the word thread at the end.

Winky thing.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 10, 2024, 06:05:41 PM
I have become woke and loving of everyone.

Even Mme. Garçon?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on August 10, 2024, 06:07:40 PM
I feel like we’re going in to this season undercooked.

1-0 West Ham
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on August 10, 2024, 06:08:27 PM
FFS, we know it's a thread. Game's gone.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2024, 06:09:54 PM
What a disaster this is!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2024, 06:19:28 PM
West Ham Villa pre match what? I think it should describe what it is, as I'm left like my yaw and pitch are at odds.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 10, 2024, 06:20:31 PM
as long as the players are fit then we'll win.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jwarry on August 10, 2024, 06:23:36 PM
Are we all forgetting Spam have changed several players, most of which will have one week to work with their new manager.  Ok we’ve lost two of our best players, one guaranteed starter, the other probably would have been a sub. So why are we fretting?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 10, 2024, 06:25:43 PM
They’ve only won one pre-season match in normal time. Against Dagenham and Redbridge. I still went for a loss though.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 10, 2024, 06:30:23 PM
FFS, way too early. Don't we wait til the working week for this?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 10, 2024, 06:31:31 PM
- The games are always shite there
- We are always slightly more shite than them
- Pre-season has been rubbish
- We can’t defend

2-0
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 10, 2024, 06:34:37 PM
5-1 West Ham. Sir Alex tells everyone we looked great. We win the league and CL.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 10, 2024, 06:36:20 PM
What a disaster this is!

I haven't been this disappointed and angry since I watched the Olympics opening ceremony.

3-1 to us, FTJECF.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PhilVill on August 10, 2024, 06:39:53 PM
2 zip to Villa. No worries, but we have to take the game to them. Sit back and bad things will happen...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 10, 2024, 06:49:20 PM
Not particularly confident. Firstly we always struggle there and secondly we look pretty half baked and incoherent. Hopefully we have a major step up built in.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Goldenballs on August 10, 2024, 07:00:06 PM
Assuming no new signings before Wham, what's your 11?

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne

McGinn
Onana
Youri

Rogers
Ramsey
Watkins

And if we hadn't sold Luiz he'd be in there for Onana/Youri so possibly no new signings in our current strongest 11, in my opinion. Need a couple of belters to go straight in to the first team, like Felix.

I forgot Bailey! Good job I'm not the manager.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 10, 2024, 07:03:02 PM
^ I'd go with that, and even going forward I think an upgrade on Cash is probably all that's needed. Purely in terms of starting 11. JJ and Rogers at their very best could be something special.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Legion on August 10, 2024, 07:27:44 PM
2-0
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 10, 2024, 09:15:04 PM
I suspect, as many others do, that we will start very slowly this season. Can't see how Watkins can possibly play this game given he hasn't played a second of pre season.

We have looked bloody awful and haven't replaced Luiz or Diaby and don't have a back up for Ollie. Hell, we don't even have a kit to play in yet.

2-0 to West Ham

We will improve as the season wears on but still a better scoreline than the opening day of last season I suppose.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 10, 2024, 10:25:26 PM
I'd go:

Martinez

Cash Konsa Torres Digne

McGinn Onana Tielemans Rogers

Bailey Watkins


Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on August 11, 2024, 12:54:19 AM
2 - 2. Rogers and Bailey. Some pricks for them.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: tony scott on August 11, 2024, 03:59:34 AM
1:1 Archer for us
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Allan C on August 11, 2024, 08:33:12 AM
Feels great to be back. 0-2 to us Watkins and 1 from any other
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Richard on August 11, 2024, 11:04:25 AM
Surely the advantage this season is that we can bring on the likes of Maatsen, Barkley, Illing Jnr, Philogene, Buendia, Archer and Duran if things going wrong. Plenty of pace there.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ian. on August 11, 2024, 11:08:06 AM
Surely the advantage this season is that we can bring on the likes of Maatsen, Barkley, Illing Jnr, Philogene, Buendia, Archer and Duran if things going wrong. Plenty of pace there.

That’s definitely an advantage, I just hope it’s because we’re not chasing the game. I’m not convinced we’re as good as our form (which is quite understandable, as it was outrageous for a while) which propelled us into the Conference and then Champions league.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Rigadon on August 11, 2024, 11:10:59 AM
Surely the advantage this season is that we can bring on the likes of Maatsen, Barkley, Illing Jnr, Philogene, Buendia, Archer and Duran if things going wrong. Plenty of pace there.

That’s definitely an advantage, I just hope it’s because we’re not chasing the game. I’m not convinced we’re as good as our form (which is quite understandable, as it was outrageous for a while) which propelled us into the Conference and then Champions league.

It's approaching 2 years since Emery came in so I think we're beyond this being a purple patch in form.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Rotterdam on August 11, 2024, 11:18:54 AM
1-1
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 11, 2024, 11:22:21 AM
In 7 head-to-head games between Emery and Lopetegui it's only 1 win for Unai, with 3 draws. Hope he starts to put that right next week.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2024, 11:49:00 AM
We'll lose this 3-1 I fear.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Pete3206 on August 11, 2024, 11:52:17 AM
1-0 win
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Stu on August 11, 2024, 12:10:38 PM
Not got enough goals in the team, defence still knackered and their manager has put it across Unai a good few times before. 2/3-0 to the eel fuckers.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 11, 2024, 12:12:31 PM
As others have said, our squad depth is definitely deeper quality but our first 11 probably not as it stands

We are not an up and at them team from the off so I suspect we’ll try and control the game Unfortunately West Ham I fear it will be fired up and we will have to be careful not to concede a goal

I’m not that confident I’d take a draw now
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Tuscans on August 11, 2024, 12:15:50 PM
If we beat Arsenal I hope we all feel it's our time, our house, our house.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Rigadon on August 11, 2024, 12:39:57 PM
If we're assessing our first team strength now v last year, I'd say it's about the same / potentially stronger.  Onana gives us more muscle in midfield and can play.  JJ is the proverbial 'new signing' and that could be massive for us.  The emergence of Rogers is ace, and I think he really could be something very special.  I think we are as strong and potentially stronger than last season.  The positions we absolutely need to strengthen is up front so that it's not all on Watkins and at centre half in case Mings isn't the same (I really hope he is, because I don't think we'll be signing anybody as good as he was under Emery).   Sign a dominant centre half and Joao Felix, and I'd argue we have better depth and a better first team. 
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 11, 2024, 12:52:57 PM
Tough game. West ham done some decent business and we dont win there. Id take a point if offered
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 11, 2024, 12:56:01 PM
Assuming no new signings before Wham, what's your 11?

Emi

Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne

McGinn
Onana
Youri

Rogers
Ramsey
Watkins

And if we hadn't sold Luiz he'd be in there for Onana/Youri so possibly no new signings in our current strongest 11, in my opinion. Need a couple of belters to go straight in to the first team, like Felix.

I forgot Bailey! Good job I'm not the manager.

Emery has been giving JJ lots of minutes so I think this might be the team, given JJ might help out more defensively than Bailey and Leon can be a game changer from the bench, like Arsenal away last season.
A few new signings for them and new manager bounce, so tough game.
However, I’m inflicted with pre-season optimism. 2-1 us (Watkins, Rogers).
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2024, 12:57:11 PM
1-1
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 11, 2024, 12:58:29 PM
Hate playing this lot, and they seem to have done some good business this summer. We never seem to burst out of the traps, so will be happy with a draw here.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 11, 2024, 01:08:40 PM
I was reading that a couple of teams with new managers are trying to adopt the play it out from the back stuff that Emery has us doing, and it hasn't been going well for some of them in preseason. Chelsea was one, and I think West Ham was another. They could have an us at Newcastle kind of opening day, if we're lucky.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jon collett on August 11, 2024, 01:22:46 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Skerra on August 11, 2024, 02:18:55 PM
Think we need to start getting our excuses ready:
We have new players so need a couple of seasons to get them to gel
Watkins not up to speed as played 60 minutes for England so is still knackered
By November it’ll be, we’re totally worn out having to also play in the CL
Play the kids and get knocked out straight away in the domestic cups because CL has to be our priority, ditto as we are prioritising trying to get top 4 again
Don’t get too down about losing to the Irons and the Arse as there’s still plenty of matches to get it right
No, we didn’t do well over the Xmas period as we had to play so many matches in such a short space of time(conveniently forgetting that all the other teams had the same number of matches)
I suppose that’ll do for starters but, please join in if you wish!!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 11, 2024, 02:29:47 PM
Will Duran do the Irons sign thing when he scores or when they score?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 11, 2024, 02:44:57 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
With the alternative being Barkley i'd stick with the Belgians
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jon collett on August 11, 2024, 02:50:44 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
With the alternative being Barkley i'd stick with the Belgians

We were much better second half! Early days but struggling to see Onana’s attributes other than a good engine!

Look forward to Unai showing me!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: dicedlam on August 11, 2024, 03:03:51 PM
Quite impressed with WHU transfer business this summer. I can't see us winning this one.

3 -1
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 11, 2024, 03:17:33 PM
West Ham do have some excellent players. Players that would immediately improve us. This will be very tough indeed. A draw would be a very positive result.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 11, 2024, 03:25:56 PM
Quite impressed with WHU transfer business this summer. I can't see us winning this one.


I've seen a few comments to this effect, but struggling to see what's so good.

Max Kilman - fairly average Premier League stopper, but they've paid nearly £50m, which doesn't strike me as good business at all.
Summerville - average Championship level winger. Could be the next Bowen, just as likely to be the next Benrahma.
Fullkrug - another old forward to join the Antonio and Ings OAP club
Luis Guilherme - never heard of him, doesn't appear to have scored a single goal
Todibo - don't know much about him. A loan from Nice doesn't seem like too much to get excited about though.

Am I missing something?


Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 11, 2024, 03:39:10 PM
Getting rid of Moyes was probably their best bit of business since last season.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on August 11, 2024, 03:47:55 PM
Summerville did win the league's player of the year so by that definition he can't be average for that level. Todibo seems to be highly rated the last couple of years but then again you'd think he'd be at a better club. I'd say they've just done alright.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 11, 2024, 04:20:02 PM
I wonder when Jarrod will join his Dad's club in proper claret and blue. It's written.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Nev on August 11, 2024, 04:45:37 PM
As has been previously mentioned their Manager seems to have the measure of Emery so everything points to defeat. I have thought that from the minute the fixtures were released and will also agree that we may have a poor start all things considered.
However, one if the hallmarks of Emery's reign is the ability to make us all look rather foolish with our predictions...so. 

0-1
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jwarry on August 11, 2024, 04:52:58 PM
As has been previously mentioned their Manager seems to have the measure of Emery so everything points to defeat. I have thought that from the minute the fixtures were released and will also agree that we may have a poor start all things considered.
However, one if the hallmarks of Emery's reign is the ability to make us all look rather foolish with our predictions...so. 

0-1

Is the right answer
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: KRS on August 11, 2024, 05:02:10 PM
Apparently West Ham haven’t had a particularly good pre-season results wise either…

July 15: Ferencvaros 2-2 West Ham
July 20: Dagenham & Redbridge 0-1 West Ham
July 28: Wolves 3-1 West Ham
August 4: Crystal Palace 3-1 West Ham
August 10: West Ham 2-2 Celta Vigo (West Ham win 6-5 on pens)

Source: https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/13136937/premier-league-pre-season-friendlies-fixtures-results-2024-summer-tours-training-in-usa-asia-australia-and-more
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 11, 2024, 05:54:50 PM
They’ve only won one pre-season match in normal time. Against Dagenham and Redbridge. I still went for a loss though.

Ahem
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2024, 06:22:50 PM
So they've not had a good pre season and they haven't signed anything particularly impressive.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 11, 2024, 06:44:11 PM
We'll definitely lose then.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2024, 06:48:55 PM
If we're definitely going to lose our first game of the season, we may as well do it at a ground where we've a poor record.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 11, 2024, 07:02:34 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
With the alternative being Barkley i'd stick with the Belgians

We were much better second half! Early days but struggling to see Onana’s attributes other than a good engine!

Look forward to Unai showing me!
He's been the standout player pre-season
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: BoVillan esq on August 11, 2024, 08:21:15 PM
Either, we will hit the ground running and the amount of changes coming into the club will prove to be bang on, in which case we will steam roller over Hammers, or we still haven't replaced Luiz, new players will take time to bed in and we get caught out.

I'm going for 2-0 West Ham,
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 11, 2024, 08:58:58 PM
I reckon we'll lose
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jon collett on August 11, 2024, 09:33:41 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
With the alternative being Barkley i'd stick with the Belgians

We were much better second half! Early days but struggling to see Onana’s attributes other than a good engine!

Look forward to Unai showing me!
He's been the standout player pre-season

What do you think his strengths are?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 11, 2024, 10:47:36 PM
After yesterday I wouldn’t fancy Onana and Tielemans in central midfield. We seemed to be struggling keeping possession.
With the alternative being Barkley i'd stick with the Belgians

We were much better second half! Early days but struggling to see Onana’s attributes other than a good engine!

Look forward to Unai showing me!
He's been the standout player pre-season

What do you think his strengths are?

After 4 or 5 pre season games, its pretty early to be wondering what Onana is bringing to the table for us.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 11, 2024, 11:00:30 PM
We had a poor result v Newcastle in our first game last time. We were all down, pissed off and fearing the worst. Then Sir Lord Ferg’ had what we would now describe as a Biden moment. I haven’t a clue how we will fare, it could be anything so I’ll go with a 2-1 win to us.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 11, 2024, 11:29:31 PM
Biden? SirAlix ain't no sleepy Joe.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: danno on August 12, 2024, 12:29:31 AM
Biden? SirAlix ain't no sleepy Joe.

Yeah, one is a massive ***t the other is called Joe.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 12, 2024, 01:33:08 AM
It may be worth pointing out that their only pre-season win in 5 games was a 1-0 success at the mighty Dagenham.

Not saying it means a lot but it means as much as our pre-season where we did still manage 3 wins.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: sid1964 on August 12, 2024, 06:06:58 AM
will do well to get a point - 2-2
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Caribbeanvillan on August 12, 2024, 06:39:00 AM
 First couple of games will be a struggle.
West Ham 3-0.
Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 12, 2024, 08:40:51 AM
It may be worth pointing out that their only pre-season win in 5 games was a 1-0 success at the mighty Dagenham.

Not saying it means a lot but it means as much as our pre-season where we did still manage 3 wins.

Yeah, I wish someone would have pointed it out before.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 12, 2024, 08:43:49 AM
It may be worth pointing out that their only pre-season win in 5 games was a 1-0 success at the mighty Dagenham.

Not saying it means a lot but it means as much as our pre-season where we did still manage 3 wins.

Yeah, I wish someone would have pointed it out before.

I'm guessing this is an unfriendly and sarcastic response?

Sorry, I hadn't read the whole thread.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 12, 2024, 09:09:12 AM
It may be worth pointing out that their only pre-season win in 5 games was a 1-0 success at the mighty Dagenham.

Not saying it means a lot but it means as much as our pre-season where we did still manage 3 wins.

Yeah, I wish someone would have pointed it out before.

I'm guessing this is an unfriendly and sarcastic response?

Sorry, I hadn't read the whole thread.

It was sarcasm for sure, but wasn’t meant to be unfriendly. It was just a callback to me moaning earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: TaxDodger on August 12, 2024, 09:35:09 AM
I'm also going for 2-2, which I think I'd take. I think two points from the opening two games would be a reasonable return.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2024, 09:36:31 AM
That toothless German orc is bound to score, but I'm going with 3-1 to us.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2024, 09:51:56 AM
I'm going into this game expecting a loss and a nightmare drive home. But secretly, when no-one is looking, I'm nurturing the hope of a three-win opening salvo in the coming weeks.  :-X

We haven't beaten them in their own hellhole since 2011. It's overdue.

But looking at our opening games with a view to a two point per game target, we have four winnable games following Arsenal. So it won't be the end of the world if we have a slow start against these and the Arse.

But, when no-one's looking...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ozzjim on August 12, 2024, 09:54:04 AM
Going to get spanked. New manager bounce and we look miles off.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Monty on August 12, 2024, 09:59:14 AM
Going to get spanked. New manager bounce and we look miles off.

People keep saying things, but they also look pretty rough.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 12, 2024, 10:01:17 AM
Going to get spanked. New manager bounce and we look miles off.

Didn't we beat them 3-0 with a "new manager" bounce on the opening day? Think it was under Kev Mac after MON walked?

(And then went and lost 6-0 at Newcastle)

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same scoreline. But to them.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 12, 2024, 10:06:11 AM
I fancy West Ham to have a decent season and this could be a tricky start for us. I predict the usual multiple over the top searches outside the ground, a shit view, miles from the pitch and a defeat.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2024, 10:08:35 AM
I fancy West Ham to have a decent season and this could be a tricky start for us. I predict the usual multiple over the top searches outside the ground, a shit view, miles from the pitch and a defeat.

And shit music all round the stadium.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 12, 2024, 10:38:48 AM
And that machine on the touchline, pumping effing bubbles towards the pitch.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on August 12, 2024, 10:50:29 AM
We never seem to win our 1st game of the season, especially if it's away.

3-1 them. Hope I'm wrong!

After our underwhelming pre-season performances, I'm resigned to a slow start.  :'(
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: itbrvilla on August 12, 2024, 10:55:06 AM
Not confident at all.  Poor preseason overall and a weakened first team.  Bigger squad than last season but lacking quality.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: simon ward 50 on August 12, 2024, 10:58:00 AM
And that machine on the touchline, pumping effing bubbles towards the pitch.

Always a laugh though, at a kids birthday party!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2024, 11:56:26 AM
I'm glad I'll be on holiday and will try to avoid the match thread!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 12, 2024, 11:57:46 AM
I'm glad I'll be on holiday and will try to avoid the match thread!

46 years and counting Villa 4 Wham 1 ?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2024, 11:59:17 AM
I'm glad I'll be on holiday and will try to avoid the match thread!

46 years and counting Villa 4 Wham 1 ?

My first match. 18th March 1978.... Gregory 2, Deehan and Mortimer.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 12, 2024, 12:01:17 PM
I'm glad I'll be on holiday and will try to avoid the match thread!

46 years and counting Villa 4 Wham 1 ?

My first match. 18th March 1978.... Gregory 2, Deehan and Mortimer.

I was one month and one week old. I still chibbed a few of theirs.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2024, 12:04:38 PM
I'm glad I'll be on holiday and will try to avoid the match thread!

46 years and counting Villa 4 Wham 1 ?

My first match. 18th March 1978.... Gregory 2, Deehan and Mortimer.

I was one month and one week old. I still chibbed a few of theirs.

Thanks, saved me doing it. I was 6 so just the right height to have hit them where it hurts. But I didn't.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 12, 2024, 01:36:33 PM
Bowen and Paquetta are the danger men. And obviously Danny Ings .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 12, 2024, 01:58:41 PM
Has Paquetta been sanctioned or anything?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 12, 2024, 02:14:01 PM
Has Paquetta been sanctioned or anything?
Dunno, he played and scored v C Vigo
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: aj2k77 on August 12, 2024, 02:27:22 PM
Nailed on defeat. We always do shit away to them and generally have rocky starts to the season. Pre season we've looked all over the shop. 3-1 Bowen first scorer.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jwarry on August 12, 2024, 02:55:48 PM
Ned to get something out of this as I’m sure Arse will be looking fro revenge in the next game
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 12, 2024, 03:06:28 PM
They can look for revenge all they want, they'll never beat the Villa again under Unai.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ozzjim on August 12, 2024, 03:16:20 PM
Has Paquetta been sanctioned or anything?
Dunno, he played and scored v C Vigo

Apparently likely to drag on until next summer, his legal team and Wessam have tied it all up in legal wranglings.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2024, 03:25:14 PM
Will settle for the traditional loss first game if we manage the traditional win second game against Arsenal. Not confident with this one at all, no idea what our best team is.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 12, 2024, 03:36:42 PM
Has Paquetta been sanctioned or anything?
Dunno, he played and scored v C Vigo

Apparently likely to drag on until next summer, his legal team and Wessam have tied it all up in legal wranglings.
ahh they must have found the 115 blueprint
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2024, 03:52:07 PM
Ned to get something out of this as I’m sure Arse will be looking fro revenge in the next game

I think he'll do well too.

As for Arse hair, I'm thinking they'll go for a mullet rather than a fro.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: rougegorge on August 12, 2024, 04:06:01 PM
It is a bit of a concern if we are going into this not knowing our current best team. Incoming  and outgoing players were were largely sorted out a while back.

I suspect that not many of the new players will start which would indicate that our first eleven is no stronger this season.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 12, 2024, 04:15:13 PM
It is a bit of a concern if we are going into this not knowing our current best team.
It's only a concern if Emery doesn't know .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: brontebilly on August 12, 2024, 04:24:20 PM
Nailed on defeat. We always do shit away to them and generally have rocky starts to the season. Pre season we've looked all over the shop. 3-1 Bowen first scorer.

Haven't we drawn our last two away to these? West Ham have had a lot of upheaval over the summer. These first games before the international break/end of transfer window are always messy. Solid away point will do, 1-1.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Tuscans on August 12, 2024, 04:25:08 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/august/12/watch-our-pl-opener-at-villa-park/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUyzeHFXwAArOL2?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 12, 2024, 05:31:42 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/august/12/watch-our-pl-opener-at-villa-park/

Anyone else going?

I just booked a place. Wonder how many seats they are releasing for this
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 12, 2024, 05:59:25 PM
1-0 spam.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2024, 06:23:06 PM
I know it's only a very minor thing, but that font they use for everything on the OS is absolutely fucking terrible. I'd rather they used comic sans than that.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Astnor on August 12, 2024, 08:13:11 PM
Aston Villa away opening day of the season, Newcastle, Bournemouth and Watford comes to mind.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: adrenachrome on August 12, 2024, 08:32:31 PM
I know it's only a very minor thing, but that font they use for everything on the OS is absolutely fucking terrible. I'd rather they used comic sans than that.

The font is annoying, to be sure.

Rest assured, though, that I will never caress the velvet rope, lick the lanyard or descend into the Lower Grounds.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 13, 2024, 12:06:51 AM
Aston Villa away opening day of the season, Newcastle, Bournemouth and Watford comes to mind.

Although Iirc the last time we were away on August 17th was the 3-1 win at Arsenal when Luna scored.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2024, 12:32:41 AM
Bring him back. Can never have too many left backs.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 13, 2024, 05:16:27 AM
Will settle for the traditional loss first game if we manage the traditional win second game against Arsenal. Not confident with this one at all, no idea what our best team is.
Martinez
Konsa Carlos Pau Digne
Ramsey / Tielemens SJM Onana Rogers
Bailey Ollie
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 07:19:18 AM
Will settle for the traditional loss first game if we manage the traditional win second game against Arsenal. Not confident with this one at all, no idea what our best team is.
Martinez
Konsa Carlos Pau Digne
Ramsey / Tielemens SJM Onana Rogers
Bailey Ollie
Ollie has has no pre season it wouldnt suprise me if he is on the bench tbh
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: SaddVillan on August 13, 2024, 08:03:02 AM
Aren't we playing a behind doors "friendly" tomorrow?

Expect that Unai will play the starting XI and rotate the most likely subs in and out.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 13, 2024, 08:11:55 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 13, 2024, 08:42:12 AM
Ollie was hardly used by Horseface for England and wasn't used to the players, only really having training with them to go on but hé came on and did the business in the semi. He'll be fine for us.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 09:30:23 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill

Very chilled. Thanks. Its not nonsense at all.

Pre season is a very aspect of a players journey to the start of the season for fitness and performance.  Its a very important aspect of player conditioning
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 13, 2024, 09:35:37 AM
Ollie was hardly used by Horseface for England and wasn't used to the players, only really having training with them to go on but hé came on and did the business in the semi. He'll be fine for us.

The only thing that can disrupt Watkins rhythm is having kids, and given the effect it has you'd think he was the one that had to bear them.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2024, 09:41:06 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill

Very chilled. Thanks. Its not nonsense at all.

Pre season is a very aspect of a players journey to the start of the season for fitness and performance.  Its a very important aspect of player conditioning

Watkins will be fine.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 13, 2024, 09:52:14 AM
I agree with Bronte that I'm glad he's had a longer time off. The Euros seemed to go on forever and the players don't feel like they've had a rest. Even ones like McGinn who went out early.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 10:03:46 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill

Very chilled. Thanks. Its not nonsense at all.

Pre season is a very aspect of a players journey to the start of the season for fitness and performance.  Its a very important aspect of player conditioning

Watkins will be fine.

Hope so. If not hopefully archer can take his chance
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 13, 2024, 10:05:37 AM
I'd go with:

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne

JJ
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn

Bailey
Watkins
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 10:06:34 AM
I'd go with:

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne

JJ
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn

Bailey
Watkins

You would drop rogers ??
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 13, 2024, 10:12:11 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill

Very chilled. Thanks. Its not nonsense at all.

Pre season is a very aspect of a players journey to the start of the season for fitness and performance.  Its a very important aspect of player conditioning

My point being that a large amount of players were all away at euros/americas for numerous teams and won't have had a real pre season, they'll be fine.

My view that it's nonsense about ollie is that he didn't play in one game that emi and ezri played in which isn't a huge deal.

He was away with England training and so I'm sure that all that info would have been considered by him and the villa staff in terms of conditioning.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 13, 2024, 10:13:02 AM
I'd want to press them heavily with their playing out from the back. Bailey and Watkins, on last season, are two of the best attacking players in the League, so I'd have them up top. JJ is better than Rogers. It looks like I have JJ on the right, but I'd prefer him on the left.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2024, 10:17:01 AM
I'd go with Rogers, but it's a toss up really. They might still need to be a bit careful with JJ, in any case.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 10:21:44 AM
Everyone's gone mad with this 'ollies had no pre season nonsense'. He missed one game for which he was available, one game. Wasn't like he's been injured all summer is it, chill

Very chilled. Thanks. Its not nonsense at all.

Pre season is a very aspect of a players journey to the start of the season for fitness and performance.  Its a very important aspect of player conditioning

My point being that a large amount of players were all away at euros/americas for numerous teams and won't have had a real pre season, they'll be fine.

My view that it's nonsense about ollie is that he didn't play in one game that emi and ezri played in which isn't a huge deal.

He was away with England training and so I'm sure that all that info would have been considered by him and the villa staff in terms of conditioning.

I hope so corey. It does take a few games to get back in swing of things having a few pre season games certain helps with that aide of things.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2024, 10:23:27 AM
It's not just fitness though, it's the integration with the team, and he's not going to have Luiz looking for him with through balls any more. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's still not exactly ideal.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 10:29:17 AM
It's not just fitness though, it's the integration with the team, and he's not going to have Luiz looking for him with through balls any more. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's still not exactly ideal.

Yeah i think diabs and luiz are going to be bigger misses than we think. Just hoping JJ and emi can fill that gap as we had neither player for a majority of the season.

Going to need more from youri as well this season.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 13, 2024, 10:40:05 AM
Two goals and seven assists wasn't bad as a backup midfielder with half the minutes as Luiz last season (and 5 goals taken off Luiz for pens.)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Paul.S on August 13, 2024, 10:40:38 AM
It's not just fitness though, it's the integration with the team, and he's not going to have Luiz looking for him with through balls any more. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's still not exactly ideal.

Yeah i think diabs and luiz are going to be bigger misses than we think. Just hoping JJ and emi can fill that gap as we had neither player for a majority of the season.

Going to need more from youri as well this season.

I definitely agree in regard to Luiz and Diaby. Luiz is a big loss for us and i liked Diaby, he had moments of class and I thought he’d improve this season.
There’s no doubt Ramsey is a class act and it’s a huge plus he’s back but replacing Luiz is another matter entirely. I don’t think Buendia will be a starter and will take quite a while to get back up to speed anyway. I’d like to see pace added whoever we buy.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2024, 11:08:43 AM
                      Martinez
Nedeljkovic   Konsa    Torres    Maatsen
    McGinn      Onana      Tielemans
     Bailey     Watkins         Rogers


             Martinez
Cash    Konsa      Torres      Digne
           Onana     Barkley
Bailey            Rogers         Ramsey
                 Watkins


                       Martinez
Nedeljkovic     Konsa     Torres      Moreno
              Onana      Barrenechea
               McGinn        Buendia
              Bailey        Watkins
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2024, 11:08:58 AM
Covering a few bases......
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 11:32:40 AM
It's not just fitness though, it's the integration with the team, and he's not going to have Luiz looking for him with through balls any more. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's still not exactly ideal.

Yeah i think diabs and luiz are going to be bigger misses than we think. Just hoping JJ and emi can fill that gap as we had neither player for a majority of the season.

Going to need more from youri as well this season.

I definitely agree in regard to Luiz and Diaby. Luiz is a big loss for us and i liked Diaby, he had moments of class and I thought he’d improve this season.
There’s no doubt Ramsey is a class act and it’s a huge plus he’s back but replacing Luiz is another matter entirely. I don’t think Buendia will be a starter and will take quite a while to get back up to speed anyway. I’d like to see pace added whoever we buy.

Just need to hope ramsey is over his injury trouble. He has been very unreliable as of late due to injuries. Luiz was always reliable in that regard.

I agree about emi and i would argue he was very inconsistent before the injury. I do think we will score less than last season but hopefully that wont matter if we are robust and concede less goals
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 13, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
I agree with Bronte that I'm glad he's had a longer time off. The Euros seemed to go on forever and the players don't feel like they've had a rest. Even ones like McGinn who went out early.

But you never agree with Bronte...that's seriously messed-up.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 13, 2024, 01:06:37 PM
Martinez

Nedeljkovic - think he has earned it - replace at 70 mins with Cash

Konsa - Cannot see Carlos in a Villa shirt again

Pau - Our game is based around him

Digne - Need to have one eye on Bowen so experience is required

Onana - will start every game until Kamara is back

Tielemans - his vision will open teams up.

McGinn (centre) - in any formation he is not being left out - Enzo to replace him to see the game out.

Bailey (right) to run the left back ragged for 70 mins - then swap for Philogene to rag them some more

Rogers (Left) The man in form - again make a change for Ramsay / Jr if he tires.

Watkins - fully refreshed but might take a couple of games to get sharpness - 80+ mins bring on Archer / Duran





Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 01:52:17 PM
Martinez

Nedeljkovic - think he has earned it - replace at 70 mins with Cash

Konsa - Cannot see Carlos in a Villa shirt again

Pau - Our game is based around him

Digne - Need to have one eye on Bowen so experience is required

Onana - will start every game until Kamara is back

Tielemans - his vision will open teams up.

McGinn (centre) - in any formation he is not being left out - Enzo to replace him to see the game out.

Bailey (right) to run the left back ragged for 70 mins - then swap for Philogene to rag them some more

Rogers (Left) The man in form - again make a change for Ramsay / Jr if he tires.

Watkins - fully refreshed but might take a couple of games to get sharpness - 80+ mins bring on Archer / Duran

Thats probably the team i would go for tbh. Dont think maatsen is ready to start yet
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 13, 2024, 02:18:48 PM
Park the bus. Hit them on the counter .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 13, 2024, 02:27:51 PM
Park the bus. Hit them on the counter .
Unai Emery in a nutshell.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jon collett on August 13, 2024, 02:40:28 PM
I thought we normally dominate possession under Unai? Although admittedly think we will struggle to do that with Onana.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ozzjim on August 13, 2024, 02:57:21 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne

Onana
Barkley
McGinn
Tielemans

Rogers
Watkins

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 13, 2024, 02:58:48 PM
No Bailey?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 13, 2024, 03:07:32 PM
Do we think Ned will get the nod over Cash
hope so and I don’t have a downer on Cash as much as some on here but he has looked well capable in pre season

i think Emery will go for Cash though as he’s not a massive risk taker especially as it’s early on in the season
I suppose Konsa could also play there as he did at times last season, depends on who he goes with in central defence
Will be a very interesting to see what the line is
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 13, 2024, 03:08:51 PM
I thought we normally dominate possession under Unai? Although admittedly think we will struggle to do that with Onana.

Out of interest Why do you say that I thought he was good on the ball
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: jon collett on August 13, 2024, 04:36:17 PM
I thought we normally dominate possession under Unai? Although admittedly think we will struggle to do that with Onana.

Out of interest Why do you say that I thought he was good on the ball

Only based on what I saw in Dortmund. We kept losing possession. He kept losing it and didn’t fit in. A lot of the pressure on Torres seemed to be there was no outlet for him to pass too.

I genuinely asked what the guy who thought he was the stand out in pre season saw as his attributes but he didn’t reply.

From what I saw he ran around a lot but wasn’t involved or dominant in the game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: rob_bridge on August 13, 2024, 04:48:22 PM
2.1 to them

Rogers for us because he is ace.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 13, 2024, 05:08:02 PM
Do we think Ned will get the nod over Cash
hope so and I don’t have a downer on Cash as much as some on here but he has looked well capable in pre season

i think Emery will go for Cash though as he’s not a massive risk taker especially as it’s early on in the season
I suppose Konsa could also play there as he did at times last season, depends on who he goes with in central defence
Will be a very interesting to see what the line is
i think Konsa will play RB
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 13, 2024, 05:17:06 PM
Park the bus against fucking West Ham? Jaysus.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: darren woolley on August 13, 2024, 05:30:43 PM
I can see us getting a 2-1 win.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 13, 2024, 06:07:02 PM
Do we think Ned will get the nod over Cash
hope so and I don’t have a downer on Cash as much as some on here but he has looked well capable in pre season

i think Emery will go for Cash though as he’s not a massive risk taker especially as it’s early on in the season
I suppose Konsa could also play there as he did at times last season, depends on who he goes with in central defence
Will be a very interesting to see what the line is

I'd say he'll start with Cash. Nedeljkovic has looked decent in preseason but the Premier League is a different beast. He may ease him in for a few games first. Especially if we're having to integrate a couple of new players elsewhere.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 13, 2024, 06:12:15 PM
His omission from the Dortmund game and subsequent internet rumours of Ollie’s death or worse found to be greatly exaggerated. He seems happy in training photos today.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 13, 2024, 07:21:00 PM
I thought we normally dominate possession under Unai? Although admittedly think we will struggle to do that with Onana.

Out of interest Why do you say that I thought he was good on the ball

Only based on what I saw in Dortmund. We kept losing possession. He kept losing it and didn’t fit in. A lot of the pressure on Torres seemed to be there was no outlet for him to pass too.

I genuinely asked what the guy who thought he was the stand out in pre season saw as his attributes but he didn’t reply.

From what I saw he ran around a lot but wasn’t involved or dominant in the game.

Oh that don’t sound good
I was just assuming because Unai  bought him he must be comfortable on the ball
I’ll see him on Saturday in the flesh for the first time so I’ll make my opinion up then
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 13, 2024, 08:16:36 PM
Park the bus. Hit them on the counter .
Unai Emery in a nutshell.
replicate Arsenal A from last season. Keep it tight first 20, quieten the crowd, frustrate them. Get in at HT 0-0 . Then the magic starts to happen
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: rougegorge on August 13, 2024, 08:31:42 PM
It looks like Onana might be the only new league debutant on Saturday. Given that there is differing opinion about him already, this seems a little underwhelming and I thought we would have two or three upgrades by now.

I hope I am wrong,  but whilst we may no longer name two keepers on the bench, I don't think we have really strengthened the starting line-up.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 08:39:34 PM
It looks like Onana might be the only new league debutant on Saturday. Given that there is differing opinion about him already, this seems a little underwhelming and I thought we would have two or three upgrades by now.

I hope I am wrong,  but whilst we may no longer name two keepers on the bench, I don't think we have really strengthened the starting line-up.

Its a good point. Its virtually the same side as last season. Unless kosta comes in for cash onana will be only  change.

I do think maatsen will definitely add something once he gets up to speed
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 13, 2024, 08:49:35 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 13, 2024, 09:00:49 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

yep. Although you might as well also throw Pau in there given how early he needed to come on.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 13, 2024, 09:02:51 PM
Just going on the above posts so can only be starters involved. I also don't think Diaby would have been starting without the injury to Buendia either.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 09:05:14 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 13, 2024, 09:06:40 PM
Onana is a perfect CM position for us vs Soucek . Win that battle will be massive.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 13, 2024, 09:07:57 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 13, 2024, 09:27:04 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.

That wasnt the question 😂
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 14, 2024, 08:32:28 AM
If we win here then Unai completes the set of winning at every London PL ground. In just over 18 months.

That's bloody ridiculous.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 14, 2024, 08:39:33 AM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.

That wasnt the question 😂

I’ll answer your question. We lost. Then we ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham’s place for most of the season.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 14, 2024, 09:55:06 AM
Ah, nice one! This game is on Canal+ in France. And they've got the drop-shadow lion.

(https://i.ibb.co/xXj5x0t/Screenshot-20240814-105253.png)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 10:27:43 AM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.

That wasnt the question 😂

I’ll answer your question. We lost. Then we ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham’s place for most of the season.

Thank you - i would add which consisted of a host of new players helping us achieve 4th =)

Spurs were not far off from us. Lucky for us there wasnt another 4-5 games as we were on a terrible run. I think thats why we have bought a lot in to not see a repeat with a fatigue as that was the reason for our poor form towards the end of the season
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 14, 2024, 11:16:31 AM
West Ham's crest is so crap.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 14, 2024, 11:28:47 AM
Thank you - i would add which consisted of a host of new players helping us achieve 4th =)

Spurs were not far off from us. Lucky for us there wasnt another 4-5 games as we were on a terrible run. I think thats why we have bought a lot in to not see a repeat with a fatigue as that was the reason for our poor form towards the end of the season

So lucky we played for 38 games which happens to be the length of the league? Strange as some people had handed the 4th place to Spurs in March  which was game week 28. So we were lucky that the season wasn't 28 games in length. But then we were lucky they had some injuries early on in the season as well if I remember correctly as our injuries didn't count, well from some people.

Lucky Villa it seems.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 14, 2024, 11:51:59 AM
West Ham's crest is so crap.
(https://i.ibb.co/Dt27GxG/wets-am.png) (https://ibb.co/f2wC8h8)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2024, 11:54:31 AM
Onana is a perfect CM position for us vs Soucek . Win that battle will be massive.

That's a good point. The downside to Luiz is that for all his good play, he was physically quite weak, and when the chips were down in a battle, he was usually nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 14, 2024, 12:00:25 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.

That wasnt the question 😂

I’ll answer your question. We lost. Then we ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham’s place for most of the season.

I can guarantee If we lose to West Ham on Saturday this will be the standard message on the post match
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 12:11:42 PM
Thank you - i would add which consisted of a host of new players helping us achieve 4th =)

Spurs were not far off from us. Lucky for us there wasnt another 4-5 games as we were on a terrible run. I think thats why we have bought a lot in to not see a repeat with a fatigue as that was the reason for our poor form towards the end of the season

So lucky we played for 38 games which happens to be the length of the league? Strange as some people had handed the 4th place to Spurs in March  which was game week 28. So we were lucky that the season wasn't 28 games in length. But then we were lucky they had some injuries early on in the season as well if I remember correctly as our injuries didn't count, well from some people.

Lucky Villa it seems.

If you actually read what i wrote it was about our form being so bad towards thweend of the season and we only finished a few points ahead of them.

Cool that you also ignored the end part of the post to to make your own conclusion up too 😂

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 12:14:00 PM
I might be wrong but wasn't Diaby the only new face against Newcastle in the starting line-up last year?

Yeah and how did that result end 😉

We ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham place for most of the season.

That wasnt the question 😂

I’ll answer your question. We lost. Then we ended the season fourth despite people stating it was Tottenham’s place for most of the season.

I can guarantee If we lose to West Ham on Saturday this will be the standard message on the post match

Depends on the nature of the loss though doesnt it. If we lost 7-0 for example then you will get negative reactions

I personally wont be suprised if we lose this one. We dont have a great record there and their manager had the better of unai last time they met.

Tough game
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2024, 01:01:58 PM
Onana's bloody colossal isn't he, about time we had a bit more height in the team.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 14, 2024, 01:24:13 PM
But as i have reported previously my Everton ST supporting mate says

1) He is not very good in the air for someone who is 6'5"
2) When he does head it its like his head is a 50p piece as it goes everywhere

He says what we will like is his telescopic legs that seem to come out of nowhere to retrieve the ball and surprisingly his extensive passing range, especially out to either flank
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2024, 01:44:05 PM
But as i have reported previously my Everton ST supporting mate says

1) He is not very good in the air for someone who is 6'5"
2) When he does head it its like his head is a 50p piece as it goes everywhere

He says what we will like is his telescopic legs that seem to come out of nowhere to retrieve the ball and surprisingly his extensive passing range, especially out to either flank

My Everton-supporting best mate says he's great in the air. I guess it's the same with us, take two fans and you'll get two different opinions. The stats seem to back up that he's good in the air though.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2024, 01:44:18 PM
Thank you - i would add which consisted of a host of new players helping us achieve 4th =)

Spurs were not far off from us. Lucky for us there wasnt another 4-5 games as we were on a terrible run. I think thats why we have bought a lot in to not see a repeat with a fatigue as that was the reason for our poor form towards the end of the season

So lucky we played for 38 games which happens to be the length of the league? Strange as some people had handed the 4th place to Spurs in March  which was game week 28. So we were lucky that the season wasn't 28 games in length. But then we were lucky they had some injuries early on in the season as well if I remember correctly as our injuries didn't count, well from some people.

Lucky Villa it seems.

If you actually read what i wrote it was about our form being so bad towards thweend of the season and we only finished a few points ahead of them.

Cool that you also ignored the end part of the post to to make your own conclusion up too 😂



Spurs won 2 and lost 5 of their last 7. Those 2 were against Burnley and Sheffield United.

We won 2, drew 3 and lost 2 of our last 7. Those 7 games, also included 4 in Europe. So despite our squad being smaller, despite playing more games, we took more points and beat higher quality opposition (Arsenal and Bournemouth).

In the mythical 43 game season, assuming our players don't give up after 37 because the job is complete, I'm unsure why Spurs would have cantered past us. We're a better side, with a better manager. We finished above them with a game to spare.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 01:47:45 PM
Thank you - i would add which consisted of a host of new players helping us achieve 4th =)

Spurs were not far off from us. Lucky for us there wasnt another 4-5 games as we were on a terrible run. I think thats why we have bought a lot in to not see a repeat with a fatigue as that was the reason for our poor form towards the end of the season

So lucky we played for 38 games which happens to be the length of the league? Strange as some people had handed the 4th place to Spurs in March  which was game week 28. So we were lucky that the season wasn't 28 games in length. But then we were lucky they had some injuries early on in the season as well if I remember correctly as our injuries didn't count, well from some people.

Lucky Villa it seems.

If you actually read what i wrote it was about our form being so bad towards thweend of the season and we only finished a few points ahead of them.

Cool that you also ignored the end part of the post to to make your own conclusion up too 😂



Spurs won 2 and lost 5 of their last 7. Those 2 were against Burnley and Sheffield United.

We won 2, drew 3 and lost 2 of our last 7. Those 7 games, also included 4 in Europe. So despite our squad being smaller, despite playing more games, we took more points and beat higher quality opposition (Arsenal and Bournemouth).

In the mythical 43 game season, assuming our players don't give up after 37 because the job is complete, I'm unsure why Spurs would have cantered past us. We're a better side, with a better manager. We finished above them with a game to spare.

The thing is the original comment was made after we lost 4-0 to them so the poster seems obsessed with bringing that post up. Only he knows why.

It turned out chelsea were more of a threat than spurs in end. I think we would have blown it if there were more games. Thank god we qualified before the final game thats for sure!


Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2024, 01:54:54 PM
Isn't the point that if our form was bad, their form was worse. We couldn't finish 3rd, our form only needed to be superior to Tottenham's.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 14, 2024, 01:59:14 PM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 01:59:16 PM
Isn't the point that if our form was bad, their form was worse. We couldn't finish 3rd, our form only needed to be superior to Tottenham's.

I mean aftes that 4-0 result though i really did think it was done at that point.

It was the lowest point of the season for me. Thankfully we seen it through. Want to look forward now and not look back. Hopefully the poster can do the same.

Moving on to saturdays game. We started the season horribly last season i am pretty sure unai would have learned alot about that newcastle game.  Be great to start 1st game of season with a away win. Wont be easy though
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2024, 02:02:15 PM
I wouldn't read too much into that final game, there was clearly an enormous sense of relief and as close to a downing of tools as Emery would ever allow.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 14, 2024, 02:09:01 PM
I have great memories of that final game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 14, 2024, 02:10:45 PM
The Palace game was the best day out I’ve had in a long time.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 14, 2024, 02:13:54 PM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.

I remember this. It made me think I should always believe in you.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2024, 02:32:21 PM
Isn't the point that if our form was bad, their form was worse. We couldn't finish 3rd, our form only needed to be superior to Tottenham's.

I mean aftes that 4-0 result though i really did think it was done at that point.

It was the lowest point of the season for me. Thankfully we seen it through. Want to look forward now and not look back. Hopefully the poster can do the same.

Moving on to saturdays game. We started the season horribly last season i am pretty sure unai would have learned alot about that newcastle game.  Be great to start 1st game of season with a away win. Wont be easy though

We didn't have many low points, so it's understandable.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2024, 02:33:23 PM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.

I dont see how playing like a dog chasing a car, with Europe on top, will benefit them. Hopefully they're worse than last year.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 14, 2024, 02:57:52 PM
The thing is the original comment was made after we lost 4-0 to them so the poster seems obsessed with bringing that post up. Only he knows why.

It turned out chelsea were more of a threat than spurs in end. I think we would have blown it if there were more games. Thank god we qualified before the final game thats for sure!


Not sure why you are spinning the original comment being back after the Spurs result. The original comment myself and Ads were picking up on was we were lucky that a 38 league season was only 38 games long. I decided to pick out that some people also wrote us off after 28 games, yet at the end of 38 we were 4th. If you happened to be one of "some people" then so be it.

But now it seems we were lucky to finish above Chelsea as well in this 43 game league. Squads like the Man City ones show that Emery was trying to eke out his resources for 38 games (plus Europe) and so if we went to 43, he would have planned for that as well.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: rougegorge on August 14, 2024, 03:41:03 PM
If we win here then Unai completes the set of winning at every London PL ground. In just over 18 months.

That's bloody ridiculous.
He hasn't won at Crystal Palace yet.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 14, 2024, 03:42:36 PM
I don’t give a toss who took more points at the end of the season us or Spurs because overall we took more points than them and finished above them

This is a new season blank sheet, no 2 games are the same no two seasons are the same, we’ve got new players and others who have come back from injury so how we finished last this season is irrelevant in a way, only that we needed to have a deeper squad which we have got

I think the fact we will start without Kamara and Luiz  will make us weaker in that department, we have no players to make up for that axis until Kamara gets back
Thought Tielemans look sharp against Dortmund so hopefully he can step up with Onana and control that midfield with McGinn







Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 14, 2024, 03:49:28 PM
It would not surprise me to see a midfield of Ramsey SJM Onana Roger’s with Tielemans supporting Watkins and with Bailey to come off the bench in the second half.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 14, 2024, 03:55:54 PM
If we win here then Unai completes the set of winning at every London PL ground. In just over 18 months.

That's bloody ridiculous.
He hasn't won at Crystal Palace yet.

Even Stevie Mee managed that.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 14, 2024, 03:59:06 PM
I would. There is only one outlet ball without Bailey and you need his pace to aid the press. Them not being up to speed with playing out from the back might well help. Midfield has to be balanced though.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 14, 2024, 04:16:58 PM
It would not surprise me to see a midfield of Ramsey SJM Onana Roger’s with Tielemans supporting Watkins and with Bailey to come off the bench in the second half.

If he picks that group in the middle, I can see it being Onana, Tielemans, Ramsey in front of the defence with SJM and Rogers right and left of Watkins in a 4321 setup. But I agree with Ads that Bailey will probably start with Ramsey and Rogers fighting for the other spot.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 04:27:07 PM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.

I dont see how playing like a dog chasing a car, with Europe on top, will benefit them. Hopefully they're worse than last year.

I agree ads. Spurs are going to struggle with europa and the league. Last year they had no europe and still couldn't finish top 4.

Thursday sunday schedule is not easy
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 14, 2024, 05:01:16 PM
If we win here then Unai completes the set of winning at every London PL ground. In just over 18 months.

That's bloody ridiculous.
He hasn't won at Crystal Palace yet.

Ah yes, we won there a few weeks before he arrived. Probably the coldest I've ever been at a football match but was worth it for McGinns screamer.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 14, 2024, 05:05:47 PM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.

I dont see how playing like a dog chasing a car, with Europe on top, will benefit them. Hopefully they're worse than last year.

I agree ads. Spurs are going to struggle with europa and the league. Last year they had no europe and still couldn't finish top 4.

Thursday sunday schedule is not easy

'Big Ange' will be gone by Easter at latest.........mate. 🙄
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 14, 2024, 06:25:10 PM
Im seeing a lot of west ham fans moaning about ticket prices and concessions being taken away.

They are saying although its saying sold out there are 1000s up for sale
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 15, 2024, 10:17:40 AM
seems unlikely to be any transfers before this one, so;

martinez
digne
pau 
konsa
cash
onanan 
youri
mcginn
JJ
Rogers
Watkins

bailey/maatsen/barkley and maybe ned and philogene to get a few minutes too

also had a dream that ollie scored and we won, so watch him do his acl and we lose 6-0
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 10:22:33 AM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 15, 2024, 10:44:26 AM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2024, 11:21:18 AM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 15, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.

it was a stylistic choice you flaming pedant

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2024, 11:27:14 AM
And the Que question should have an accent on the e.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 15, 2024, 11:28:29 AM
It's always a right laff in here i tell ya
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2024, 11:49:56 AM
And the Que question should have an accent on the e.

Also missing an inverted eroteme in front of the 'Q'. 
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 15, 2024, 11:57:47 AM
In Spanish don't they put the question mark at the start of the sentence?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2024, 01:24:59 PM
Yes, this is what BV was referring to - The Inverted Eroteme were not a one-hit wonder from the late 70s.

I've always really liked that about Spanish. Immediately you know if something is a question or exclamation (they invert !'s at the beginning of applicable expressions too), you have a much better idea of the tone immediately. Wonderful ingenuity from the lads in Iberia.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2024, 01:35:32 PM
We should start writing ʇunɔ and cunt around sentences to indicate that it's going to be an angry one.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2024, 01:49:44 PM
Yes, this is what BV was referring to - The Inverted Eroteme were not a one-hit wonder from the late 70s.

I've always really liked that about Spanish. Immediately you know if something is a question or exclamation (they invert !'s at the beginning of applicable expressions too), you have a much better idea of the tone immediately. Wonderful ingenuity from the lads in Iberia.

Unlike German when you have to wait for the final word in the sentence to know what somebody's asking!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2024, 01:50:58 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 15, 2024, 02:23:40 PM
Yes, this is what BV was referring to - The Inverted Eroteme were not a one-hit wonder from the late 70s.

I've always really liked that about Spanish. Immediately you know if something is a question or exclamation (they invert !'s at the beginning of applicable expressions too), you have a much better idea of the tone immediately. Wonderful ingenuity from the lads in Iberia.

Unlike German when you have to wait for the final word in the sentence to know what somebody's asking!

Ab.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 15, 2024, 02:44:28 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

I manage a load of teams of C# developers.

It would be freakishly odd if you actually turned out to be one of them.

First thing I'd ask, obvs, would be what the fuck you are doing posting here in the daytime!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2024, 02:45:50 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

I manage a load of teams of C# developers.

It would be freakishly odd if you actually turned out to be one of them.

First thing I'd ask, obvs, would be what the fuck you are doing posting here in the daytime!

Maybe he's just really good at C# and has loads of free time.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 15, 2024, 02:48:00 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

I manage a load of teams of C# developers.

It would be freakishly odd if you actually turned out to be one of them.

First thing I'd ask, obvs, would be what the fuck you are doing posting here in the daytime!

Maybe he's just really good at C# and has loads of free time.

"Oh, Dogtanian, it's Friday afternoon, don't forget to track this week's time!"

"4 hours: talking about transfers
1 hour: tutting at Footy
3 hours: Stuff on Telly thread" etc.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2024, 02:58:45 PM
I used to have to do timesheets like that, it was always full of stuff like "20 minutes: doing timesheets; 30 minutes: trying to remember what I've done to put on timesheets".

The lad that created the Excel Macro that made them work left and nobody ever spoke about them again, thankfully.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2024, 03:02:55 PM
Timesheets were the very worst thing about working in proper accounting firms. I could never go back to that life, mainly because most of mine looked like the one paulie posted above!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 03:03:57 PM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.

it was a stylistic choice you flaming pedant
Haha! That's a good one to describe chronic laziness.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 15, 2024, 03:05:57 PM
Take it presser is tomorrow? Noticed west ham have done theirs.  Virtually full strength for them
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 15, 2024, 03:53:56 PM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.

it was a stylistic choice you flaming pedant
Haha! That's a good one to describe chronic laziness.

Honestly get a life my guy
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2024, 04:00:07 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

I manage a load of teams of C# developers.

It would be freakishly odd if you actually turned out to be one of them.

First thing I'd ask, obvs, would be what the fuck you are doing posting here in the daytime!

***Hastily deletes posts***

You're safe, don't worry! My job-job isn't as a developer, but I do have a small business doing custom business software development.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2024, 04:08:11 PM
Plus you're a fan of FV, not a hater.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 04:14:15 PM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.

it was a stylistic choice you flaming pedant
Haha! That's a good one to describe chronic laziness.

Honestly get a life my guy
That's better! Good man! Just needs a bit of punctuation now.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 15, 2024, 04:15:42 PM
I think your keyboard is on the blink.

Que?

I'd imagine he's referring to the lack of capital letters and punctuation.

it was a stylistic choice you flaming pedant
Haha! That's a good one to describe chronic laziness.

Honestly get a life my guy
That's better! Good man!

Am I remembering this right, he'd be flouting grices maxims if it was stylistic rather than violating them?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 04:17:46 PM
He's just flouting basic English rather than making a 'stylistic' choice. Commenting on a missed comma would be pedantic but here...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 15, 2024, 04:18:27 PM
If you're going out on a style limb, you need to post exclusively in comic sans
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 04:19:05 PM
Or the new Villa font.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2024, 04:48:34 PM
Grices wut?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 15, 2024, 04:50:52 PM
I'm not confident, we never do well here!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 15, 2024, 05:15:25 PM
Timesheets were the very worst thing about working in proper accounting firms. I could never go back to that life, mainly because most of mine looked like the one paulie posted above!

Every single place I have worked, I have had to shout at people who don't keep them up to date. For extra bonus points in this place I also get shouted at about capex when people actually do submit their time.

Every time I have had to explain to developers that it's not them justifying their time or being spied on, it helps the business understand how long things take and therefore, get a true picture of our bandwidth, which has a direct link to how they treat time estimates which benefits the very same devs if it is accurate.

And every single time, I might as well have just been speaking into the fucking dustbin.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2024, 05:17:41 PM
Nah, they're about spying on people.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 15, 2024, 05:18:27 PM
I reckon we will get well beaten this weekend.

I also guarantee one theme in the post match thread will be "we got beaten the first game of last season and look how THAT turned out!"

Which is fair comment. I just know how this place works.

Anyway, the reason i think we will lose is because we can't have consistent good shiny happy things, and West Ham away smells of losing traditionally.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2024, 05:21:55 PM
Anyway, the reason i think we will lose is because we can't have consistent good shiny happy things, and West Ham away smells of losing traditionally.

Feels very Watford in 2021. Everyone pretty chipper going into the new season, then we're a bit rubbish, have a bit of bad luck and we lose.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2024, 05:27:59 PM
Grices wut?

Grice's Maxim. https://www.maxim.com/entertainment/meet-swimsuit-model-and-onlyfans-influencer-hailey-grice/
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 05:49:05 PM
I have to believe we are going to FTF. Then I can lapse into despair when the wankers do us 0-1 with a jammy deflection.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 15, 2024, 06:14:05 PM
Can't be any worse than last seasons opener surely .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 15, 2024, 06:14:20 PM
I didnt realise how bad our results were 1st game of season over recent years
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 15, 2024, 06:16:48 PM
Watford away was a bad one . Especially when you're sat in the home end enduring it
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: CT Villan on August 15, 2024, 06:30:51 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 15, 2024, 07:43:27 PM
West Ham 1-3 Villa
Watkins Brace and Tielemans pen or if Watkins on penalties Watkins hat trick !!
Bowen for them
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2024, 08:01:35 PM
I didnt realise how bad our results were 1st game of season over recent years

Surprisingly, we won three straight opening games between 2013/14 and 2015/16. Arsenal, Stoke and Bournemouth, all away. Which shows you can't read too much into the opening game, I suppose.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 15, 2024, 08:25:04 PM
West Ham 1-3 Villa
Watkins Brace and Tielemans pen or if Watkins on penalties Watkins hat trick !!
Bowen for them



I think that’s what they call the clincher.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2024, 08:28:18 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...

I had a play with Unity a few years ago. Have you got very far with it?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2024, 09:20:17 PM
Already feels like a "must win", this.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 15, 2024, 09:24:18 PM
It would be nice if we had Everton H lined up for second game , but as we don't it does feel like there's a little extra pressure on this one.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 15, 2024, 09:37:19 PM
We've got a team we funeralled twice second game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 15, 2024, 09:37:21 PM
Already feels like a "must win", this.
It's a six pointer.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 15, 2024, 09:42:01 PM
Already feels like a "must win", this.
It's a six pointer.

Anything less than three points and questions need to be asked of the owners, the manager, the players, the kit person and the tea person. I blame wokeness for the repetition of person.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2024, 09:44:48 PM
We might need to get Barry Fry to pee on this new kit if it’s cursed.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 15, 2024, 10:28:17 PM
Surprised there s shouts for West Ham winning considering they are in transition and it’s a new defence for starters.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: CT Villan on August 15, 2024, 10:30:23 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...

I had a play with Unity a few years ago. Have you got very far with it?

Yes, I've completed several games. I would make games for my daughter when she was younger over the winter and try new concepts each time. I doubt the code is super efficient but it worked just fine. Last thing I made was a simple Galaga-type game, though I've made a 2D parallax-scrolling platformer, a 3D fantasy board/card game and a 3D space trading game previously. I've also got dozens of unfinished games :(

I don't consider myself a coder or an artist, so if I can make stuff anybody can !
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 15, 2024, 10:39:58 PM
Surprised there s shouts for West Ham winning considering they are in transition and it’s a new defence for starters.

They are at home for a start. A home we haven't yet won at and we have to go back to 2011 for the last time we beat them away at either ground.

We have lost Luiz and Diaby and as yet have not replaced them, had a poor pre-season (as did they tbf) and our star striker hasn't had a minute of action for over a month.

On top of that, we finished the season badly, they are a good side and they are being tipped for Europe again this season.

It's not remotely surprising that people think they might win this game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Beard82 on August 15, 2024, 10:42:09 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...

I had a play with Unity a few years ago. Have you got very far with it?

Yes, I've completed several games. I would make games for my daughter when she was younger over the winter and try new concepts each time. I doubt the code is super efficient but it worked just fine. Last thing I made was a simple Galaga-type game, though I've made a 2D parallax-scrolling platformer, a 3D fantasy board/card game and a 3D space trading game previously. I've also got dozens of unfinished games :(

I don't consider myself a coder or an artist, so if I can make stuff anybody can !
Intresting - just downloading unity now.  I been coding for 15 years as a job - but now the kids are older and into games would be great to explore
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 15, 2024, 10:43:43 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2024, 10:46:51 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...

I had a play with Unity a few years ago. Have you got very far with it?

Yes, I've completed several games. I would make games for my daughter when she was younger over the winter and try new concepts each time. I doubt the code is super efficient but it worked just fine. Last thing I made was a simple Galaga-type game, though I've made a 2D parallax-scrolling platformer, a 3D fantasy board/card game and a 3D space trading game previously. I've also got dozens of unfinished games :(

I don't consider myself a coder or an artist, so if I can make stuff anybody can !

Sounds awesome! I’d love to make a game, but I always have other projects to do.

I have plenty of unfinished projects, too.  :P
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2024, 10:50:03 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 15, 2024, 10:55:23 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
That's a bit worrying , I was at the game , could of sworn it was 2-2 . Petrov definitely played a blinder . Tevez and mascerano definitely made debuts , as did Petrov . The sun was out it was warm. Felt like an opening day .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Beard82 on August 15, 2024, 10:55:37 PM
German is my favourite non-English language.

Aside from C#, of course.

Good to know :) I taught myself some C# so I could make games in Unity. Next time I get stuck...

I had a play with Unity a few years ago. Have you got very far with it?

Yes, I've completed several games. I would make games for my daughter when she was younger over the winter and try new concepts each time. I doubt the code is super efficient but it worked just fine. Last thing I made was a simple Galaga-type game, though I've made a 2D parallax-scrolling platformer, a 3D fantasy board/card game and a 3D space trading game previously. I've also got dozens of unfinished games :(

I don't consider myself a coder or an artist, so if I can make stuff anybody can !

Sounds awesome! I’d love to make a game, but I always have other projects to do.

I have plenty of unfinished projects, too.  :P
No projects ever finished :P
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2024, 10:59:06 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
That's a bit worrying , I was at the game , could of sworn it was 2-2 . Petrov definitely played a blinder . Tevez and mascerano definitely made debuts , as did Petrov . The sun was out it was warm. Felt like an opening day .

Quote
West Ham: Carroll, Mears, Ferdinand, Gabbidon, Konchesky, Bowyer (Etherington 72), Mullins, Reo-Coker, Benayoun, Harewood (Tevez 61), Zamora (Cole 83).
Subs Not Used: Green, Mascherano

O'Neill clearly spotted something he liked the look of that day.

Quote
But the Hammers, and Marlon Harewood in particular, failed to capitalise on a gilt-edged chance just five minutes later.

Sorensen made a horrible mess of a clearance, sending it along the ground to Harewood. But the striker scuffed his shot wide
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Beard82 on August 15, 2024, 10:59:39 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
That's a bit worrying , I was at the game , could of sworn it was 2-2 . Petrov definitely played a blinder . Tevez and mascerano definitely made debuts , as did Petrov . The sun was out it was warm. Felt like an opening day .
Dont worry Tim - every night out with Mrs Beard has been like that.  I swear I was witty and life of the party, only to be told I was a dick.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2024, 11:04:08 PM
Dont worry Tim - every night out with Mrs Beard has been like that.  I swear I was witty and life of the party, only to be told I was a dick.

All the other ladies constantly telling her she's so lucky to be Mrs. Beard probably doesn't help her mood.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 15, 2024, 11:08:18 PM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
That's a bit worrying , I was at the game , could of sworn it was 2-2 . Petrov definitely played a blinder . Tevez and mascerano definitely made debuts , as did Petrov . The sun was out it was warm. Felt like an opening day .

We drew 1-1. I was there too.

We did draw 2-2 on the LAST day of a season. The one where Mellberg left all the travelling fans a shirt saying thanks 4 your support. Maybe that's what you are thinking of?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Beard82 on August 15, 2024, 11:09:56 PM
Dont worry Tim - every night out with Mrs Beard has been like that.  I swear I was witty and life of the party, only to be told I was a dick.

All the other ladies constantly telling her she's so lucky to be Mrs. Beard probably doesn't help her mood.
Yeah - especially while they are making breakfast downstairs.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 16, 2024, 12:25:28 AM
Ok so over 60% factually correct , I'm fairly happy with that nowadays  :D specsavers . It was definitely a cracking game.
I'd take 1-1 Saturday . (Or 2-2 😉).
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: CT Villan on August 16, 2024, 01:55:56 AM
Intresting - just downloading unity now.  I been coding for 15 years as a job - but now the kids are older and into games would be great to explore

You could take a look at Unreal 5 too, it is a worthy contender to Unity. I've always used Unity because I know it and it has tremendous support through tutorials and forums which I leverage frequently because of my lack of formal coding skills.

What languages do you code in ?

If you have any questions pm me, or maybe start a Unity topic if that's easier ??
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Perthvillan on August 16, 2024, 07:54:45 AM
That opening day at West Ham many years ago , 2-2 Petrov debut masterclass, mascherano and Tevez debuts , GazBaz goal . Cracking game in fact .

It wasn't the opening day, it was 1-1, Ridgewell was our goalscorer and Mascherano didn't play.

Other than that...
I was also there that day and said hello to Nigel Kennedy at half time who was in the visitors end with a couple of minders.
That's a bit worrying , I was at the game , could have sworn it was 2-2 . Petrov definitely played a blinder . Tevez and mascerano definitely made debuts , as did Petrov . The sun was out it was warm. Felt like an opening day .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 16, 2024, 08:04:52 AM
The combination of our 1st day hoodoo, the fact we struggle at West Ham, and Unai’s record against Lopeteguei, plus the fact our defensive issues seem to still be present in preseason means I think we’ll lose. My one hope is that Unai has been holding plenty back in preseason.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 16, 2024, 08:15:39 AM
The Palace game was the best day out I’ve had in a long time.

Not even spoiled by meeting me.

Agree though a great day out.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 16, 2024, 08:18:17 AM
Tottenham's form was woeful, and they looked completely blown out despite playing less than alomost everyone else in the division, and it was exactly how I'd said it would go earlier in the season based on the way they played.

Yeah but this season they will be much stronger according to the pundits, they've got Solanke and Archie Gray.... And let a load go. They seem to have a weaker squad than they did
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Drummond on August 16, 2024, 08:25:09 AM
I'm not confident, we never do well here!

You're better than you think you are then; you remembered the punctuation and capital letters.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 16, 2024, 10:15:26 AM
I'm not confident, we never do well here!

You're better than you think you are then; you remembered the punctuation and capital letters.

 ;D
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 16, 2024, 10:32:49 AM
The Palace game was the best day out I’ve had in a long time.

Not even spoiled by meeting me.

Agree though a great day out.

I realised later that it was the heaviest Villa defeat I've ever witnessed live, and I think our heaviest defeat since the 0-6 reverse at home to Liverpool in *that* season...
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 16, 2024, 10:33:42 AM
1-1 Brooking, Deehan
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 16, 2024, 10:38:52 AM
The Palace game was the best day out I’ve had in a long time.

Not even spoiled by meeting me.

Agree though a great day out.

I realised later that it was the heaviest Villa defeat I've ever witnessed live, and I think our heaviest defeat since the 0-6 reverse at home to Liverpool in *that* season...

6-1 v Man Citeh in 2019/20. The Drinkwater match.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2024, 10:41:56 AM
I went the pub at half time so not sure I can count that one.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 16, 2024, 10:45:28 AM
Was it 4-0 after about 20 minutes? I closed the laptop screen and sat in a huff. Great days.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 16, 2024, 10:46:53 AM
we need to start chanelling the vibes from opening day Arsenal 1-3 Villa the Tony Moon game . Maybe Ned can do something like it , he has the pace
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 16, 2024, 11:14:54 AM
we need to start chanelling the vibes from opening day Arsenal 1-3 Villa the Tony Moon game . Maybe Ned can do something like it , he has the pace

That game was, coincidentally, also on Saturday August 17th.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Rigadon on August 16, 2024, 11:30:27 AM
we need to start chanelling the vibes from opening day Arsenal 1-3 Villa the Tony Moon game . Maybe Ned can do something like it , he has the pace

Tony Moon… shudder.  Fuck me we were shite back then.  Let’s not channel any of those (awful) vibes.  One goal aside he was as abysmal as most of that squad. 
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 16, 2024, 11:51:31 AM
our record in London under Emery is pretty good i believe
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2024, 11:55:49 AM
We've only lost in London once under Emery, though it was our most recent (competitive) game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Villatillidie25 on August 16, 2024, 12:01:16 PM
We've only lost in London once under Emery, though it was our most recent (competitive) game.

It wasn’t particularly close either if I remember rightly
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Ads on August 16, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
I think competitive is being used quite loosely there.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2024, 12:03:29 PM
Technically competitive, in that it wasn't a friendly. Less than combative, it would be fair to say.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 16, 2024, 12:38:19 PM
I remember losing down there early in the season under O'Leary (we'd just signed Bouma) and making Marlon Fucking Harewood look like Adriano in PES 6* in a 4-0 drubbing.

This must have also been the one game Martin O'Neill watched Harewood play in.


*Niche reference but if you know, you know.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dr Butler on August 16, 2024, 12:44:23 PM
looking forward to seeing the Villa play again, but dread this fixture due to loads of West Ham fans in  our village.

I shall watch the game in the local pub hoping with 5 mins to go we are 6 up so I can relax abit :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 16, 2024, 12:47:56 PM
I remember losing down there early in the season under O'Leary (we'd just signed Bouma) and making Marlon Fucking Harewood look like Adriano in PES 6* in a 4-0 drubbing.

This must have also been the one game Martin O'Neill watched Harewood play in.


*Niche reference but if you know, you know.

I seem to remember O'Neill mentioning that game, so you're probably right. I just remember feeling hugely underwhelmed. Be a bit like signing Maupay now.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 16, 2024, 01:13:45 PM
I remember losing down there early in the season under O'Leary (we'd just signed Bouma) and making Marlon Fucking Harewood look like Adriano in PES 6* in a 4-0 drubbing.

This must have also been the one game Martin O'Neill watched Harewood play in.


*Niche reference but if you know, you know.

I seem to remember O'Neill mentioning that game, so you're probably right. I just remember feeling hugely underwhelmed. Be a bit like signing Maupay now.

Absolute comedy signing really, we're all sitting there hoping for the likes of Falcao and we end up with him. Who did we 'gazump' again to get him? Wigan?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 16, 2024, 01:20:27 PM
Absolute comedy signing really, we're all sitting there hoping for the likes of Falcao and we end up with him. Who did we 'gazump' again to get him? Wigan?

I thought it couldn't get any worse after that, but Martin O'Neill gave it the "hold my beer" routine and signed Emile Fucking Heskey. Have we had two players with the same middle name before?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: LeeB on August 16, 2024, 01:23:20 PM
Absolute comedy signing really, we're all sitting there hoping for the likes of Falcao and we end up with him. Who did we 'gazump' again to get him? Wigan?

I thought it couldn't get any worse after that, but Martin O'Neill gave it the "hold my beer" routine and signed Emile Fucking Heskey. Have we had two players with the same middle name before?

They both had 50 pence pieces where normal people have feet too.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 16, 2024, 01:47:21 PM
Fans and the board of west ham are not in a good place apparently due to ticket prices. Could be spicy
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 16, 2024, 02:13:01 PM
Can't blame them if they're being gouged but they make me laugh. They're all excited about the new manager and he's going to get them back to playing "the West Ham way". Moyes might have been old school but they won a bloody European trophy under him, having qualified for European football under him. Whats the "West Ham way " if its not being successful?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 16, 2024, 02:30:08 PM
I remember losing down there early in the season under O'Leary (we'd just signed Bouma) and making Marlon Fucking Harewood look like Adriano in PES 6* in a 4-0 drubbing.

This must have also been the one game Martin O'Neill watched Harewood play in.


*Niche reference but if you know, you know.
I was at that game , Monday night . Horrendous . Then walked back to the etap hotel on the North circular where i spent a sleepless night
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 16, 2024, 02:49:20 PM
Can't blame them if they're being gouged but they make me laugh. They're all excited about the new manager and he's going to get them back to playing "the West Ham way". Moyes might have been old school but they won a bloody European trophy under him, having qualified for European football under him. Whats the "West Ham way " if its not being successful?

Was speaking to a west ham fan yesterday.  Its incredible got them a trophy and they absolutely hated moyes. Was saying style of football is more important and moyes football was like poking coals in your eyes he was saying.

I  think id prefer the trophy 😂
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 16, 2024, 03:27:25 PM
When you have won the World Cup, what can compare?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 16, 2024, 03:41:04 PM
Can't blame them if they're being gouged but they make me laugh. They're all excited about the new manager and he's going to get them back to playing "the West Ham way". Moyes might have been old school but they won a bloody European trophy under him, having qualified for European football under him. Whats the "West Ham way " if its not being successful?

Was speaking to a west ham fan yesterday.  Its incredible got them a trophy and they absolutely hated moyes. Was saying style of football is more important and moyes football was like poking coals in your eyes he was saying.

I  think id prefer the trophy 😂

I would hate Moyes as manager of Villa
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 16, 2024, 04:31:32 PM
I remember losing down there early in the season under O'Leary (we'd just signed Bouma) and making Marlon Fucking Harewood look like Adriano in PES 6* in a 4-0 drubbing.

This must have also been the one game Martin O'Neill watched Harewood play in.


*Niche reference but if you know, you know.

Jermaine Defoe was rumoured to be signing. I was convinced he was coming as my mate who lived next door to one of the nurses who was involved with his medical said he was signing, she wasn’t a football fan clearly  as she couldn’t tell her Harewoods from her Defoes.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 16, 2024, 04:59:36 PM
But as i have reported previously my Everton ST supporting mate says

1) He is not very good in the air for someone who is 6'5"
2) When he does head it its like his head is a 50p piece as it goes everywhere

He says what we will like is his telescopic legs that seem to come out of nowhere to retrieve the ball and surprisingly his extensive passing range, especially out to either flank

My Everton-supporting best mate says he's great in the air. I guess it's the same with us, take two fans and you'll get two different opinions. The stats seem to back up that he's good in the air though.

Stats wise, he’s great in the air. What I recall from the many podcasts I listen to is that he’s in one of those ridiculously high percentiles for winning aerial duels.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: john e on August 16, 2024, 05:58:04 PM
I think Onana might be the only new player starter tomorrow
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 16, 2024, 07:39:02 PM
Alan Shearer , Chris Sutton, Jamie Carragher all have predicted West Ham 1-1 Aston Villa . Merson also thinks a draw.

Alan Shearer:
It'll be a tight game this one. West Ham have made some exciting signings, but so have Aston Villa. It may take time for some of those to really gel together for both sides, so I am happy to go with a score draw.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 16, 2024, 07:52:46 PM
I think it will be tried and tested tomorrow. Onana in for Doug.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 16, 2024, 09:21:45 PM
It’s not great that we’re going into the first game of the season with both striking options barely having played over the summer.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 16, 2024, 09:23:08 PM
It’s not great that we’re going into the first game of the season with both striking options barely having played over the summer.

Yeah there will be aome rustiness thats for sure
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 16, 2024, 09:25:51 PM
It’s not great that we’re going into the first game of the season with both striking options barely having played over the summer.

Yeah there will be aome rustiness thats for sure

The Irons won't be able to handle that.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 16, 2024, 09:29:57 PM
It’s not great that we’re going into the first game of the season with both striking options barely having played over the summer.

Yeah there will be aome rustiness thats for sure

The Irons won't be able to handle that.

Nor will our lovely white shirts.  :'(
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Des Little on August 16, 2024, 10:24:31 PM
1-1 draw and I’d snap your hand off for that right now.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 16, 2024, 10:25:52 PM
UTFV!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 16, 2024, 10:32:25 PM
1-1 draw and I’d snap your hand off for that right now.

That wouldn't be a bad result at all tbh
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Tuscans on August 16, 2024, 10:33:24 PM
Ollie Watkins will be in the squad against West Ham but Unai Emery planned to meet with him either Friday evening or Saturday morning to decide on whether he will start the game.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 16, 2024, 10:36:51 PM
How much do these players trouser each week for not being quite able to start a game? Tsk!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Des Little on August 16, 2024, 10:39:23 PM
Ollie Watkins will be in the squad against West Ham but Unai Emery planned to meet with him either Friday evening or Saturday morning to decide on whether he will start the game.

Kinnell so it’s Crazy Horse or Rogers as a false 9?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 16, 2024, 11:20:27 PM
I'd nearly want Duran to start just for the craic.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 16, 2024, 11:41:43 PM
Aye, Duran goal and doing the stupid arms symbol in front of their fans would be funny
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 16, 2024, 11:43:23 PM
1-5
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 17, 2024, 01:50:00 AM
Ollie Watkins will be in the squad against West Ham but Unai Emery planned to meet with him either Friday evening or Saturday morning to decide on whether he will start the game.

This isn't a surprise. I said as soon as he didn't play at Dortmund that it's unlikely he will start against West Ham. I suspect he will come off the bench.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 17, 2024, 06:30:16 AM
I’m proper looking forward to today, which usually means a catastrophe.

I hate WHAM! away. A ballache to get to, a nightmare to get away from, an absolutely terrible stadium, loud wankers talking like they’re in a Guy Ritchie film… and we never win.

Time to change that, Villa.  8)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Demitri_C on August 17, 2024, 07:28:08 AM
If ollie isnt starting duran wont either. If ollie is benched (which i dont think he will) i think he will go with rogers up top.

I hope he doesnt as i dont think rogers is as good up front
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: AV84 on August 17, 2024, 08:18:11 AM
I suppose the thing is that Duran hasn't played in preseason either. Granted he didn't actually play for Colombia over the summer, but Watkins didn't play an awful lot for England either.

I had my doubts over whether Duran was a 90 minutes player last season, and after this summer I have even more doubts, but one way of looking at it is that it's the exact opportunity he wanted, and if he's serious about his commitment to us, now would be the time to show it.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Clampy on August 17, 2024, 08:37:53 AM
First games are always tough to call. They've brought a few in but we might be playing them at right time before they click. I'll go 2-3. Rogers with two and Duran to score the winner and set off the saft bubble machine whilst celebrating.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 17, 2024, 09:08:10 AM
Two bits concern me, I don’t think we’ve necessarily addressed what was resulting in us conceding plenty last year. Although perhaps Onana’s physicality might help. Also being in a position whereby neither of our striking options have played any preseason for us is not great.

Perhaps we’ll click, but it feels like that’s a hope rather than an expectation. You add to that our first day record, our record at West Ham, and Unai’s record against their manager and it feels very difficult.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 17, 2024, 09:11:52 AM
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Rogers
Bailey
Watkins
And I’m really in 2 minds whether to start Nedeljkovic but will hold back for the opener.

A cagey 1-1, we don’t usually do well there so I wouldn’t be too upset with that.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: DB on August 17, 2024, 09:24:53 AM
West Ham win, 1st games of the season regularly throw up odd results and certainly don’t define the season.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Pete3206 on August 17, 2024, 09:38:21 AM
An hour and a half long, but a nice morning watch to get you into the mood

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: VillaTim on August 17, 2024, 09:39:38 AM
Isn't Emery's record vs Lopetegui really poor , but our Emery record in London is really good. Nailed on draw .
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 17, 2024, 09:41:20 AM
Think both teams are usually poor in the opening fixture of the season too.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on August 17, 2024, 09:49:16 AM
I hope I’m wrong but today has the strong whiff of an opening day defeat. Not too worried though because we’ll beat Arsenal.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: brontebilly on August 17, 2024, 10:00:53 AM
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Rogers
Bailey
Watkins
And I’m really in 2 minds whether to start Nedeljkovic but will hold back for the opener.

A cagey 1-1, we don’t usually do well there so I wouldn’t be too upset with that.

Ramsey will surely start? Bailey or Rogers for the spot up near Watkins, think Rogers will get the nod today.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 17, 2024, 10:15:07 AM
Bailey definitely starts, how could you think anything else?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 17, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
I think we'll need baileys creativity
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 17, 2024, 10:55:10 AM
An hour and a half long, but a nice morning watch to get you into the mood



Thanks for sharing Pete - Brings it all back. And as that other Villa video mentions.... those lows make the recent highs all the better!

UTV
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 17, 2024, 11:27:28 AM
I think we'll need baileys creativity

I can’t imagine a time when we wouldn’t.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 17, 2024, 11:27:51 AM
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Rogers
Bailey
Watkins
And I’m really in 2 minds whether to start Nedeljkovic but will hold back for the opener.

A cagey 1-1, we don’t usually do well there so I wouldn’t be too upset with that.

Ramsey will surely start? Bailey or Rogers for the spot up near Watkins, think Rogers will get the nod today.


Bailey has to start if fit.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Skerra on August 17, 2024, 11:32:40 AM
Just read that Watkins may or may not start according to Emery. Maybe just a ploy to keep his cards close to his chest but, something doesn’t seem right.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Chris Smith on August 17, 2024, 11:38:44 AM
Just read that Watkins may or may not start according to Emery. Maybe just a ploy to keep his cards close to his chest but, something doesn’t seem right.

Like a number of players who appeared in the later stages of international competitions he has been given a bit more time to recover.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: gpbarr on August 17, 2024, 11:42:17 AM
I’m pretty confident this morning. Their pre season has not been great either and will take their new signings time to bed in (like ours).

0-2 and we are in great song going into our first home game next week.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 17, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
Isn't Emery's record vs Lopetegui really poor , but our Emery record in London is really good. Nailed on draw .
Such records remain poor until the day, hopefully today, when we batter the kit-stealing buffoons all the way to the funeral parlour. Then we can simply say Unai's record against their manager is getting better and FTF!
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 17, 2024, 01:01:22 PM
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Rogers
Bailey
Watkins
And I’m really in 2 minds whether to start Nedeljkovic but will hold back for the opener.

A cagey 1-1, we don’t usually do well there so I wouldn’t be too upset with that.

Ramsey will surely start? Bailey or Rogers for the spot up near Watkins, think Rogers will get the nod today.


Bailey has to start if fit.

It’s the fitness question that keeps Ramsey out at the moment for me. Ease him back gently. If he was 100% raring to go it would raise the question and I’d possibly have him in for Bailey then with Rogers more central.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 17, 2024, 02:58:16 PM
I see 39% seem to think west ham will win.
What's the reasoning here ?. I have to say I'm a lot more confident that some here because way I see West Ham are having to learn to play under new manager and they have a heap of new signings.
I wouldn't worry about pre season for us because that was fitness and playing time. Come 530pm we'll be ready .
Also what's the highest percentage on here for expecting to win ?
Have we ever had 100%?
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2024, 03:17:03 PM
Probably when we played Hibernians exactly a year ago.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 17, 2024, 03:47:14 PM
91.8% thought we would progress against Stevenage. It would have been higher but I just voted Stevenage (there was no way to see the results without voting).

87.4% went for home win against Luton.

89.3% predicted a home win against Zrinjski Mostar.

89.1% went for a home win against Hibs. 82.5% predicted us to win the away leg.

I can't be arsed to look at too many more though doubt there will be many where fans were more confident than the above.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 17, 2024, 04:08:01 PM
I see 39% seem to think west ham will win.
What's the reasoning here ?.

West Ham are at home.
We are generally poor on the opening day.
We have never won at their ground.
We have looked poor in pre-season.
Ollie may not start and even if he does, he clearly isn't going to be match fit.
We don't have a solid back up for him if he doesn't start or needs to come off.
We haven't replaced Luiz.
We haven't replaced Diaby.
Emery has a poor record v Lopetegui.

With all that in mind, I'm amazed it's only 39%. Now I am not suggesting we will definitely lose, but there's a few reasons for you in any case.

EDIT: Ollie starts so let's hope he has been training like crazy.

Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 17, 2024, 04:17:14 PM
Team exactly as expected.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 17, 2024, 04:19:56 PM
Buendia on the bench. 😍
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Bad English on August 17, 2024, 04:20:09 PM
West Ham are at home.
We are generally poor on the opening day.
We have never won at their ground.
We have looked poor in pre-season.
Ollie may not start and even if he does, he clearly isn't going to be match fit.
We don't have a solid back up for him if he doesn't start or needs to come off.
We haven't replaced Luiz.
We haven't replaced Diaby.
Emery has a poor record v Lopetegui.
It might work; it depends on the tune.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Accent Guy on August 17, 2024, 04:22:00 PM
West Ham are at home.
We are generally poor on the opening day.
We have never won at their ground.
We have looked poor in pre-season.
Ollie may not start and even if he does, he clearly isn't going to be match fit.
We don't have a solid back up for him if he doesn't start or needs to come off.
We haven't replaced Luiz.
We haven't replaced Diaby.
Emery has a poor record v Lopetegui.
It might work; it depends on the tune.

 :)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Risso on August 17, 2024, 10:45:43 PM
But as i have reported previously my Everton ST supporting mate says

1) He is not very good in the air for someone who is 6'5"
2) When he does head it its like his head is a 50p piece as it goes everywhere

He says what we will like is his telescopic legs that seem to come out of nowhere to retrieve the ball and surprisingly his extensive passing range, especially out to either flank

My Everton-supporting best mate says he's great in the air. I guess it's the same with us, take two fans and you'll get two different opinions. The stats seem to back up that he's good in the air though.

Who's your friend by the way, Stevie Wonder?! ;)
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Somniloquism on August 17, 2024, 10:55:37 PM
Although to be fair, it wasn't a towering header he was leaping for. It was almost shoulder height (for a tall fucker like him) when he headed it.
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: percimbe on August 18, 2024, 04:11:18 AM
Been following the site for a long time, thought it was a good moment to register and post for the first time, what a brilliant performance, cant wait to see how far we can go this season! UTV
Title: Re: West Ham United vs Aston Villa Pre-Match
Post by: Dogtanian on August 19, 2024, 05:25:31 PM
Been following the site for a long time, thought it was a good moment to register and post for the first time, what a brilliant performance, cant wait to see how far we can go this season! UTV

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