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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on June 22, 2024, 07:42:22 PM
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Anyone else?
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We need to see what the squad looks like by the time the season starts.
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Diaby, Bailey, Tielemans, new signings.
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You'd think Watkins should be given another go, and realistically he's probably the only one almost guaranteed to be always on the pitch.
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SJM said he was second choice (for Villa) after scoring one for Scotland a few months ago. After the way Watkins twatted one in against Lille I wouldn't mind giving him another try. He's a better player now than when he used to take them.
Obviously not sure if any of the impending arrivals have reputations as penalty takers.
If ever we are winning five-nil, I'd love to see Martinez take one.
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In an ideal world it would be Watkins but I just don’t think he’s confident enough. Weirdly he could learn it but that could be a rocky journey.
I’d go Martinez (and I’m only half joking).
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Tielemans.
Apparently, Barrenechea is a also a penalty taker (took them for the Juve youth team).
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Tielemans is a decent pen taker as is Digne but I think he'll be off. Watkins shouldn't because he's a confidence player and missing always seemed to play in his mind. SJM another shout.
Watkins would be my only concern taking them for the reason stated above. I think we have plenty who can step up.
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Watkins would be my only concern taking them for the reason stated above. I think we have plenty who can step up.
Assuming we're building a squad to allow rotation we'd probably want to have several strong options.
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I thought the title of the thread said Panties at first.
Erm, Tielemans or SJM i think or maybe Maatsen can take them.
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Tielemans has an excellent career record from the spot.
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I thought the title of the thread said Panties at first.
You must have a filthy mind, we'd never have a thread like that on H&V.
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Tielemans.
But did he take one against Lille, honestly can’t remember, or maybe he’d been subbed already?
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Voted for Pau, not on any evidence, just has good penalty vibes.
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Not Watkins, his record is poor. Maybe Youri but he's not guaranteed to be on the pitch as much as Luiz was.
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I’d go for Tielmans, however if Ollie wants them and proves on the training ground to be up for it, I’d let him have it. Imagine his confidence if was regularly scoring and getting the penalties. His stats would go through the roof.
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Another vote for Youri Tielemans, ( assuming he is on the pitch.)
I think he took the first one against Lille and it was very smooth.
If Youri isn't on the pitch, then Watkins should be his apprentice.
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Tielemans .
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Morgan Ro(d)gers?
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Think we'll see SJM take some next season, he's scored for Scotland in penalty shoot outs before.
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Tielemans definitely.
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As they have to practice penalties against Emi I’m comfortable with whoever they choose. I bet they chat so much shit at one another on penalty training at Bodymoor.
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Who is this Luis bloke who took penalties for us?
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Barry?
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Watkings, Rodgers, Tellymans, MacGinn, Martinis.
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Tielemans.
Agree with CD, I'd also like to see Martinez take one but only if we're 3-0 up. Disagree with CD on Watkins against Lille, he almost did a John Terry, slipping right before he shot.
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He can slip every time if he still smashes the ball in. Could become his trademark. 🙂
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(https://media.gettyimages.com/id/3137703/photo/birmingham-citys-stan-lynn-practices-his-shooting-skills-against-tough-opposition-during-a.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=AHyXyXbEvCDESuB21k9KoGKyaVv6bJ45sUPN4JEB3fk=)
Stan the Wham
I should just add that the above picture was after his 281 appearances for us when he had gone over to the dark side in the twilight of his career. Hence the advanced training facility.
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(https://media.gettyimages.com/id/3137703/photo/birmingham-citys-stan-lynn-practices-his-shooting-skills-against-tough-opposition-during-a.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=AHyXyXbEvCDESuB21k9KoGKyaVv6bJ45sUPN4JEB3fk=)
Stan the Wham
I should just add that the above picture was after his 281 appearances for us when he had gone over to the dark side in the twilight of his career. Hence the advanced training facility.
My Dad told me two stories about him (cannot verify if true sadly)
First - He hit the ball that hard that once a keeper got knocked into the net by getting in the way of the penalty
Second - He once continued in a game when he actually had a broken leg
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A most apt thread seeing as though he’s just missed one for Brazil.
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Hit the post, too. The thread title works on a number of levels, none of which is "correct spelling".
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Him missing was karma for leaving us, and for his stupid run up.
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Tielemans or Diaby I think
I'm hoping Diaby can be our most improved player next season and he seems a penno bagger
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It's got to be Watkins. Shying away from pens has shoved him down the england pecking order, he could be sitting on an easy 10 extra free goals a season. It's not like it's something that you can't work on.
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Watkins, like a lot of his scoring seems to be in spurts. So if he has been scoring regularly, put him on penalties. If he has not scored for three games, replace with someone else.
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Presumably if Watkins wanted to take them he'd be begging Southgate to take them and would have been smashing them in during training. If this was the case I'd have expected to see him come on as sub, even if only after 119 minutes. They brought Alexander-Arnold on after 115 minutes for this purpose and could still have made a sixth sub, I think.
If this isn't happening I'd suggest he won't be first choice for Villa, either.
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Definitely not Watkins - though scoring his latest one in the ECL shootout he still ended up on his arse...
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I see I'm still the only voter for Pau. I just think he's got Barry vibes.
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Tielemens is the best striker of the ball. Diaby seems to be too affected by confidence issues.
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Tielemans or Diaby I think
I'm hoping Diaby can be our most improved player next season and he seems a penno bagger
Could be wrong but think he missed a few for Leverkusen.
It will be Tielemans and SJM next season and I do think Ollie will want to get back on them aswell so he'll take ones for a potential hat trick if he's scored twice and we are awarded one late on.
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It'll be Watkins as Stinkin says above. I think he'll insist on it, and while Tielemans for example might be better at them, I don't think he's a guaranteed starter, and seems to have a fair few injury issues as well.
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It'll be Watkins and he is going to have to put his first one away or there will be audible tutting.
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Watkins hasn’t got the confidence to take penalties, he piss pools about skipping & jumping not knowing what to do.
Just put the ball down, walk back to the edge of the box run up bang it hard and low to one side of the goalie
For a striker it should be easy peezy to do that why all the fuss and nonsense I’ve got no idea, remember it’s harder to miss a penalty than it is to score even if you miss kick it it’s got a good chance of going in like the one Watkins took in Lille
Why give the goalkeeper an advantage by fucking about I’ll never know.
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I'd be fine with Ollie taking penalties...at 2-0 up and in the 89th minute.
Luiz took a couple in that situation when we'd already won games.
However the two crucial league ones last season were Palace in the 90th minute as we gained huge confidence from turning that around late on and so then went on a very good league run right up to Boxing day.
Then we had a wobble and nearly messed up not beating Burnley. Again Luiz scored to beat them in the 90th minute.
Depends who in the squad you'd be confident of slotting away in those circumstances. Tielemans scored plenty for Leicester and he stuck away the Lille penalty very comfortably so I think he can do that job expertly but of course he might not be on at the end of games so much.
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I'd imagine Torres could take a good pen.
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Jacob Ramsey.
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Olly Watkings, Jacob Ramzy, Emi Bendeer.
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However the two crucial league ones last season were Palace in the 90th minute as we gained huge confidence from turning that around late on and so then went on a very good league run right up to Boxing day.
Then we had a wobble and nearly messed up not beating Burnley. Again Luiz scored to beat them in the 90th minute.
Revisionism alert!
Was never totally confident in Dougie’s penos - fine striker of the ball of course, but had the feeling keepers could see him coming. After that (very important, as you say) Palace one, his attempts seemed to decline in quality and take a turn on the jammy side - the Burnley crossbar one, the Lille peno that I felt was a slight mishit - culminating in the crucial miss versus Olympiacos that pretty well sealed our ECL fate. He looked way too stressed and it really wasn’t a surprise that he missed.
That being said, we don’t seem to have anyone with a fancy “modern” pk technique - à la Palmer, Bellingham, Toney, etc.
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I was supremely confident in Luiz's pen technique until the Burnley one. Can't remember Lille. Missing the target is pretty unforgivable, which is why Ollie got taken off them in the first place.
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Morgan Rogers?
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Watkins, he has the master of shithousery to teach him the psychology of beating goal keepers!
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I was supremely confident in Luiz's pen technique until the Burnley one. Can't remember Lille. Missing the target is pretty unforgivable, which is why Ollie got taken off them in the first place.
When we got the Lille penalty he pulled his shirt over his head in a sort of anguish pose. Only v briefly but I said instantly, he’s going to miss this. For the first time ever he just didn’t look confident, which was weird as he’s taken late penalties before
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Watkins needs to practice and keep practicing the taking of penalties, and hopefully what he's just done for England will push him on with an extra surge of confidence to be stepping up and taking them.
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Some players just don't like penalties, some love them. I don't think any amount of practice changes that.
I know it's a whole other level but an example is me and my mate when we were a lot younger. I was a winger and loved them, give me a pen with everything riding on it and I was in my element and would always back myself to score, he was a very good striker and scored loads while playing at an ok non league level, and he hated them. He wouldn't have wanted to take one last minute while 10-0 up in a friendly.
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But Watkins is an elite sportsman, his specialism being scoring goals, and generally speaking 'the more you practice the luckier you get."
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I think penalties is its own skill though, especially a shootout. I reckon for example that if Villa had a crucial penalty most of us would choose AEG taking it over say JPA or Ollie, despite them being better players and goalscorers.
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Tielemans, Ramsey, Barkley, Rogers, Maatsen, Bailey...
I think we'll have plenty of options depending who's on the pitch at the time.
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I was supremely confident in Luiz's pen technique until the Burnley one. Can't remember Lille. Missing the target is pretty unforgivable, which is why Ollie got taken off them in the first place.
When we got the Lille penalty he pulled his shirt over his head in a sort of anguish pose. Only v briefly but I said instantly, he’s going to miss this. For the first time ever he just didn’t look confident, which was weird as he’s taken late penalties before
Did you turn to your wife and say, it is weird Lille have a Greek name on the scoreboard?
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Fascinating to see who takes the pens 24/25 season
To be fair to Watkins the last penalty he took in the shoot out in Europe v Lille was great.
Youri Tielemans and Ollie Watkins would be my pick.
Though I'm sure Ginny may have something to say as Captain.
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Vs Fulham The official is Darren England this was the Ref who gave Villa a penalty at home V Palace after Watkins was fouled and VAR official asked him to check it on the monitors but he to stuck with his on-field decision.
In 7 premier league matches Darren England has given us 4 penalties so don't be surprised if get a penalty v Fulham!
In 12 matches overall he's awarded us 6 penalties so in half the games we have a penalty he's officiated!
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Opening up the penalty thread discussion in case get one today!
Earlier this season Antony Taylor gave 2 penalties against Spurs in (for Chelsea)
Now Ollie is not available . Watkins record 12 Taken
6 Scored6 missed
Who steps up? Of the new signings:
Marcus Rashford club and country (non penalty shoot out)
20 taken scored 18 missed 2
Marco Asensio :2 taken one scored one missed
Donny Malen at senior level Scored 3 missed 2
He hasn’t scored a penalty since 2019
The last time he took PKs was in season 20/21 when he missed two in the season.
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Others to consider:
Tielemans 31 penalties taken .
24 scored 7 missed
One taken for Villa One missed for Villa
Rogers
taken 3 penalty in career but nothing at senior level.
Scored two missed one.
One was scored for England u21 .
when asked after Celtic he said Ollie is the penalty taker so didn’t think to question and was respectful not to ask if he could have it to complete his hatty!
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I'd like to switch to Rashford, as a Man U player he'll have plenty of experience of being awarded penalties. Not sure he will be on pitch from start, though. McGinn said he was second choice (to Luiz) after scoring one for Scotland in late 2023 so maybe he'll step up, in the unlikely event we are awarded one.
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And of course if level after extras time then a penalty shoot out today.
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If he starts I doubt Rashford will last 90 min and extra time
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Malen. Can we open th poll again now that we have added 3 forwards to our line up?
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Need a massive improvement in free kicks and corners as well. They've been abysmal since the early part of the season.
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Step forward Asensio. Decent pk even if he was falling over!
After Watkins horror vs Celtic seems he’s off penalties again ?
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Malen. Can we open th poll again now that we have added 3 forwards to our line up?
agree or even start a new thread on who should be on penalties
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Step forward Asensio. Decent pk even if he was falling over!
I'm not keen on left-footed penalty takers but he can take them until he misses one.
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Marco can do it for now - good Pen and most convincing we've seen this season.
Would still like to see Digne take one - think he would be good.
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Step forward Asensio. Decent pk even if he was falling over!
I'm not keen on left-footed penalty takers but he can take them until he misses one.
How come, BV? Have you been traumatised by a previous player?
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I thought BV was left-footed. Hope he hasn't shot himself in the right foot here.
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Step forward Asensio. Decent pk even if he was falling over!
I'm not keen on left-footed penalty takers but he can take them until he misses one.
How come, BV? Have you been traumatised by a previous player?
Probably because I read an article many moons ago hat suggested they were, so maybe it's just confirmation bias. Perhaps it's because they stand out more, or my surprise at the number of penalties Messi missed. Truth be told, the evidence appears to be mixed depending on the data set, but would love to know if there's anything fairly definitive on it. Having said that, I'll take left-footed Asensio over right-footed Olie for any future Villa PKs.
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Step forward Asensio. Decent pk even if he was falling over!
I'm not keen on left-footed penalty takers but he can take them until he misses one.
How come, BV? Have you been traumatised by a previous player?
Probably because I read an article many moons ago hat suggested they were, so maybe it's just confirmation bias. Perhaps it's because they stand out more, or my surprise at the number of penalties Messi missed. Truth be told, the evidence appears to be mixed depending on the data set, but would love to know if there's anything fairly definitive on it. Having said that, I'll take left-footed Asensio over right-footed Olie for any future Villa PKs.
Yeah, Messi is a poor penalty taker, but no-one had the cojones to take him off them.
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Logically left footed penalty takers should have a slight advantage as the natural direction for the ball to go in would be the goalkeeper's left hand side, and most goalkeepers are right handed.
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I wouldn't be impressed with a goalkeeper who was notably weaker at shot stopping on their non-dominant side.
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Logically left footed penalty takers should have a slight advantage as the natural direction for the ball to go in would be the goalkeeper's left hand side, and most goalkeepers are right handed.
I'm right handed and was always more comfortable diving to my left.
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If we do go to penalties in a cup match this season I'd be farly confident with these taking them and Emi in goal:
Asensio
Rashford
Tielemanns
Watkins
Rogers/Digne
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If we do go to penalties in a cup match this season I'd be farly confident with these taking them and Emi in goal:
Asensio
Rashford
Tielemanns
Watkins
Rogers/Digne
Reckon Pau and McGinn would probably be alright too. Or at least no worse than Watkins and Tielemans have shown they can be.
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If we do go to penalties in a cup match this season I'd be farly confident with these taking them and Emi in goal:
Asensio
Rashford
Tielemanns
Watkins
Rogers/Digne
Great line up.
Also have to be fair as Cash who scored his penalty in the shoot out to Lille
also think Pau Torres would be fine as would McGinn
If we do go to penalties in a cup match this season I'd be farly confident with these taking them and Emi in goal:
Asensio
Rashford
Tielemanns
Watkins
Rogers/Digne
Reckon Pau and McGinn would probably be alright too. Or at least no worse than Watkins and Tielemans have shown they can be.
with you Dave!
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Welcome Rashford to the penalty taking club.
Seems have a few options for this role now.
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I wonder why Rashford took the penalty yesterday? Was it just because he was playing as the main striker? Tielemans and Asensio were both on the pitch at the time, and have both taken penalties for us in past games, Asensio when Rashford was on the pitch.
Not complaining, just wondering how it gets decided.
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I wonder why Rashford took the penalty yesterday?
Because Barry wasn't on the pitch.
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I wonder why Rashford took the penalty yesterday? Was it just because he was playing as the main striker? Tielemans and Asensio were both on the pitch at the time, and have both taken penalties for us in past games, Asensio when Rashford was on the pitch.
Not complaining, just wondering how it gets decided.
Someone mentioned Marco passed it to Marcus. In the BBC coverage you can see the ball is with Asensio and he starts walking to the spot with it but by the time the highlights are over, Rashford is standing next to the spot with the keeper.
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For players to have taken 10 penalties or more Juan Pablo Angel worst Penalty taker in premier league history
Scored 5/10 a 50% conversion rate.
That’s pretty bad.
How bad was he when he was taking them ? I mean wasn’t there anyone else at that time or something
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I only ever saw Benteke I liked him taking pens for Villa thought he was good enough most of the time . I not familiar with the other ex Villa so what about Angel , Yorke and Phillips . I mean Angel only played for Villa but they are all listed Angel as obviously very hit and miss at 50% of time only scoring.
Maybe goal keepers were better back then ?
or player worse?
Worst Premier League Penalty Takers
Juan Pablo Ángel: 50.0% scored (5/10)
Steed Malbranque: 60.0% scored (6/10)
Dwight Yorke: 60.0% scored (6/10)
Kevin Phillips: 61.1% scored (11/18)
Aleksandar Mitrovic: 61.5% scored (8/13)
Wilfried Zaha: 63.6% scored (7/11)
Paul Pogba: 63.6% scored (7/11)
Michael Owen: 66.7% scored (14/21)
Christian Benteke: 66.7% scored (10/15)
Wayne Rooney: 67.6% scored (23/34)
Teddy Sheringham: 67.7% scored (21/31)
Riyad Mahrez: 68.4% scored (13/19)
Jonathan Walters: 68.8% scored (11/16)
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang: 69.2% scored (9/13)
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Didn't Angel once miss a penalty and score an own goal in the same match? IIRC, we were also awarded a corner at one point and he accidentally kicked the flag onto the ball which went out for a goal kick. Not his finest game. But it's possible I've conflated different matches into one.
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Didn't Angel once miss a penalty and score an own goal in the same match? IIRC, we were also awarded a corner at one point and he accidentally kicked the flag onto the ball which went out for a goal kick. Not his finest game. But it's possible I've conflated different matches into one.
Spurs at home I think. Barry scored a lovely one where he dribbled past a few of their players and lofted it into the top corner
He (Angel) also missed two penalties in one game against Fulham I seem to remember.
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Two Villa players to have taken 10 pens or more make best ever conversion list:
Danny Ings: 90.9% scored (10/11)
James Milner: 89.5% scored (17/19)
Not all taken for Villa.
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Transfermkt only have him missing two, one against Spurs (the one he scored an own goal in as well) and one against Bolton. They miss his two against Fulham. What is the other miss?
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It’s on premier league website and opta analyst and if you type in worst penalty traker in premier league history this Angel character comes up
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As the song goes about the legend Anwar!
Ain’t no body like El Ghazi makes me happy makes me feel this way !!!
what a pen taker best ever 6/6 100%
love that guy!
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Well as you are the resident statto, I thought you would know all about "this Angel character".
I was checking transfermkt as I couldn't remember if he missed one or two penalties when he also scored the own goal. So they listed his Spurs miss, his miss against Bolton but hadn't got his two he missed in the same match against Fulham. However that was four so I wondered what the last one was.
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I reckon El Ghazi scored more than that.
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Fucking hell I thought this was the Penalties - post Luiz thread. Why are people taking about players from 20 years ago? Is this a bloody joke?
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Fucking hell I thought this was the Penalties - post Luiz thread. Why are people taking about players from 20 years ago? Is this a bloody joke?
Maybe someone could start a "penalties from twenty years ago" thread so that everything is kept in its right place?
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As long as there’s a separate thread for penalty takers from 20 years ago who took at least 10. penalties*
*premier league only
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I only remember Yorke missing one for us, v Newcastle. I can't remember Benteke missing any.
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Is not "Luis". It's Luiz or Louise (sic).
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Benteke missed away to Arsenal but scored the rebound. And missed at home to Everton early in the game.
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“This Angel character”. Ha. Completely stopped trying to hide it now.
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Fucking hell I thought this was the Penalties - post Luiz thread. Why are people taking about players from 20 years ago? Is this a bloody joke?
Yeah...if the penalty discussion is going back that far, we could at least resolve the question as to why Barry didn't take it ;)
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“This Angel character”. Ha. Completely stopped trying to hide it now.
Hide what? I don’t like your insinuations.And excuse me, Angel was not someone I’m familiar with, as I said, Angel and Yorke, the two worst penalty takers in the prem, played for us before my time.Benteke is someone I know, and my real knowledge extends to the MON era.
It doesn’t mean I don’t know past players, of course, but having never seen them live or on television, I ask the wise elders here.
My favorite time outside of Mon and Ashley Young, who is one of the greatest ever Villa wingers, was of course the Dean Smith era and then now Emery.Dean Smith, in particular, made the biggest impact on me. That’s why I don’t forget him and will always and always champion him.
Similarly, someone like Ashley Young, who under MON was called world class.Emery is challenging that, but Smith was just and is wonderful -in my mind!
I still feel he could have turned it around, but that’s another topic.
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Now back to topic about penalties.
Since Douglas Luiz I don’t think have anyone currently better than him who can take a penalty.
apart from his miss in europe I thought he was brilliant at taking them . I miss him dearly.
A Dean Smith signing by the way!
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Thank this God character that we have a couple of decent penalty takers these days.
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Just like it seems that Man Utd will now always infect previously decent footballers with their shitness virus and there is nothing that anyone can do to stop it, is it time to accept that Villa-being-shit-at-penalties is now just a thing we have to live with?
Put them in a Villa shirt and Alan Shearer and Matthew Le Tissier would have turned into Diana Ross.
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What an episode of "Stars In Their Eyes" that would have been.
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They need to make being able to bring on special teams a thing. Then we could have AEG. We've always seemed to miss more than most teams in my time, even Sid missed a few.
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I do feel we miss more than most teams. I have no stats to back that up, though.
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I think the fact we've gone through maybe 5 penalty takers in the past year, and we've no confidence in any of them, suggests we might actually miss more than other teams.
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It was around 2000 when it seemed no one could score a penalty for us.
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I imagine Luca Digne would take a mean penalty, he is great at free kicks
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Barry was decent but you always knew there was one over the bar in him.
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Barry was decent but you always knew there was one over the bar in him.
I remember one against Reading which I think is still travelling today
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I've supported Villa for nearly 60 years and I can't remember a time like now where we don't have a confident penalty taker.
Since Dougie left we haven't replaced him on the spot kicks.
Asensio was only a stop gap anyway as he will probably not be with us next season.
On TV it looked like Ollie wanted to take the second penaly yesterday.
Maybe he should be given another chance to take the job on again.
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Only the fourth time a player has missed two penalties in the same match since football began (Premier league history).
Not surprised to see two former Villa players on the list, one did it for us, one elsewhere.
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I imagine Luca Digne would take a mean penalty, he is great at free kicks
Hmmm really?!
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Those were two proper Angel level shit penalties.
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Konsa, he’s the king of calmness. He’s a class act, he wouldn’t miss, would he?
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He would, then he'd bollock one of the other defenders.
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I was backing Asensio to be a clutch taker in any possible shoot out we have left this season so yesterday has rocked my confidence in him!
Seems we're back in the 90s when we missed loads of penalties in prem games before the consistency of Barry and Milner took over in the 2000s.
It's a problem as Ollie is never convincing even with the ones he scores. Lille shoot out last season he was very close to doing what he did v Celtic.
Thought Tielemans would be good at them but missed v Palace and seemingly dosen't want to take them again.
Who else scored in the Lille shoot out, Cash?
Really surprised Rogers hasn't had a go yet given he's on the majority most of the time and hit nearly 20 goals this season. I reckon he'll take the next one we get if Rashford isn't around.
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Obviously it would depend on who is on the pitch at the time, but if Tuesday goes to penalties, who are the 5 most likely to be taking them?
Tielemans, Rashford, Asensio, Watkins, McGinn?
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Wonder what the stat is for a prem team missing two penalties in same game as we must be top of that league table of shame.
Everyone mentioned the Angel at Fulham game. However in the late 90s I can remember Merson's debut at home to Wimbledon. Alan Thompson had already missed a penalty on his home debut v Boro but for some reason took the first penalty we got that day and didn't even get it on target. Then about 20 minutes later we got another and Merse took it and it was saved but luckily he scored the rebound.
Then the next season we played Sheff Weds at home and Merson and Dublin both had their pens saved by the late Pavel Srnicek.
Any more?
Bit of a paradox we have that yet we've won the vast majority of penalty shoot outs we've been involved in last 30 years, West Ham in 1999 is only one I can remember us losing.
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Obviously it would depend on who is on the pitch at the time, but if Tuesday goes to penalties, who are the 5 most likely to be taking them?
Tielemans, Rashford, Asensio, Watkins, McGinn?
Cash would take one if he hasn't been sent off.
Pau Torres scored a brilliant one for Villareal in their marathon shoot out v Man. United in Europa league final in 2021.
It is a bit worrying if we go to a shoot out and more of the defenders want to step up and have a go over attacking midfielders/CFs!
Didn't Malen miss for the Netherlands recently so that would be another unconvincing option for future league and cup games.
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I can only assume that all of our players going to pieces on penalties is because they have to practice every day against the King, Mr Emiliano Martinez. That'd be enough to shatter whatever fragile confidence I had.
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I do not have much faith in us in a penalty shoot out.
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I do not have much faith in us in a penalty shoot out.
Maybe if we had Nyland or Olsen in goal.
I think the hope there is we might only need to score three to win with Emi in goal given he saved two in the Lille shoot out.
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I think we've won seven and lost two. Seven-three if you count the West Ham which was subsequently voided. PSG record, at least based on the ones on Transfermarkt, is won eight lost eight. Palace: won three, lost seven.
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Just buy Jao Pedro from Brighton to take pens. He won't offer much else but we're the worst team in the world from the spot and it needs to be nipped in the bud.
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I imagine Luca Digne would take a mean penalty, he is great at free kicks
He's pretty shit at free-kicks to be honest.
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It’s something we certainly struggle with, a bit like playing against ten men. What’s is supposed to be a benefit becomes an issue.
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Since Emery's appointment there have only been two occasions where we have failed to win when the opposition have had fewer players than us, and one of those was where a player was sent off after 94 minutes. Not really sufficient data to suggest that we "struggle with playing against ten men", TBH.
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Oh, ffs. That’s two posts I’ve made today that have been fact checked and proved inaccurate. Me saying Ramsdale is good at saving penalties and thinking we’re always crap against ten men.
What do I know?!
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I can only assume that all of our players going to pieces on penalties is because they have to practice every day against the King, Mr Emiliano Martinez. That'd be enough to shatter whatever fragile confidence I had.
I doubt it if they practice against Emi. It's more likely to be one of the young keepers but it's true that we don't possess a good taker.
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We rarely ever score direct free kicks and penalties always feel 50:50.
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All i know is, if we are a goal down in added time at wembley and we get one i'll probably have a heart attack.
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All i know is, if we are a goal down in added time at wembley and we get one i'll probably have a heart attack.
Genuinely had a sick feeling in my stomach reading that.
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I could see Tuesday night turning into Wednesday morning as Martinez keeps saving theirs but we can't put a single one in the net.