Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Bad English on May 14, 2024, 09:56:03 PM
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
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Lovely stuff.
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As long as rapid vienna are nor in it im happy 😂
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
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Sporting, Celtic, Internazionale and Bologna would be nice.
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Do we go straight to group stage?
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Well done Villa….!!!
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Do we go straight to group stage?
Yep!!!!
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Yessss! What an achievement!
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Fucking yessssssss!!
So proud of the boys.
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Unai. Fucking. Emery.
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We're the mighty Aston Villa and we're in the Champion's League. Champion's League, Champion's League...
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Fucking hell, brilliant. Unai, what a legend. I'm have a few beers now...
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We will be in pot 4. Will have some tasty teams out of the the three other pots. 8 CL games to look forward to!!!
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Fantasic achievement. Manager of the year for me, along with Mckenna from Ipswich.
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Do we go straight to group stage?
Different format from next season
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Is it still groups of 4 and top 2 progress?
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And....relax!
What an unbelievable achievement.
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We will be in pot 4. Will have some tasty teams out of the the three other pots. 8 CL games to look forward to!!!
Think you get two from each pot, so doesn't really matter. Not sure and to be frank don't really give a fuck right now. UP THE VILLA.
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What an achievement this is.
Who’d of thought we’d be back eating at the top table of European football when we were getting battered at Fulham last season..
I’m so happy for those that haven’t seen, including my lad who is still running around the garden, he’s 24!😂
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Can't believe it...didn't think it would happen in my lifetime.
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Is it still groups of 4 and top 2 progress?
No - it’s a big league.
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Dream come true, I can’t believe it. Wes, Nassef, Unai and all the players - thank you!
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Unbelievable, what a fucking job Emery and the players have done. I can hardly believe it.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
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What an achievement this is.
Who’d of thought we’d be back eating at the top table of European football when we were getting battered at Fulham last season..
I’m so happy for those that haven’t seen, including my lad who is still running around the garden, he’s 24!😂
First timer...36.
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It truly is unbelievable. What an achievement!! Bask in it!!
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Do we go straight to group stage?
Yep!!!!
its a league , we play 8 times . top 24 out of 36 goes through.
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This day seemed like a long way away when we were losing 3-0 away to Wigan in the Championship.
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Unai, this feels like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
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Brilliant achievement! Unai is a genius. Real Madrid at some point please.....!
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Unai. Fucking. Emery.
Build the fucking statue or name the Ellis stand after him
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Game changing for the club. Well done Unai, the players and NSWE. And Fulham…
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Amazing. No hope of an away ticket, but hey that’s better than not even wanting to go.
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Ace.
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Monumental, well done the lads, fought a long hard season, the reward is the possibility of playing some of the worlds biggest teams, magnificent.
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What a fantastic achievement. This season has been amazing, wonderful football and superb team and manager. Can't wait for next season.
Here's to you Unai Emery, Villa loves you more than you will know. Up the mighty Villa
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I've waited a long time for this
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For many of us on here, and you can tell from the sad post counts, we have seen so much utter shit for the better part of 2 decades. We’ve seen some really bad football. Endured humiliation locally and nationally. Had some of the worst players and managers. Nearly went out of business. What a fucking day this is. Not just the purchase by Nas and Wes, but ultimately the return to the PL thanks to Dean, and then the past 20 or so months with the revolution sparked by Unai Emery. It’s quite emotional really and very hard to believe we have achieved this.
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What an achievement! Up the fucking Villa!
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For many of us on here, and you can tell from the sad post counts, we have seen so much utter shit for the better part of 2 decades. We’ve seen some really bad football. Endured humiliation locally and nationally. Had some of the worst players and managers. Nearly went out of business. What a fucking day this is. Not just the purchase by Nas and Wes, but ultimately the return to the PL thanks to Dean, and then the past 20 or so months with the revolution sparked by Unai Emery. It’s quite emotional really and very hard to believe we have achieved this.
Well said TV mate, Up the fucking Villa!
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For this to happen in any season is special. For it to happen after such a long drawn out decline and hitting the bottom of the barrel, recovering under a villa man and then stagnating under a Liverpool man. From 18th or whatever the shit were in 18 months ago to this… fuck. Difficult to articulate. It’s bloody miraculous.
It’s also really really pleasing to do this at the expense of spurs. What was that Jenas you smug twat?
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For many of us on here, and you can tell from the sad post counts, we have seen so much utter shit for the better part of 2 decades. We’ve seen some really bad football. Endured humiliation locally and nationally. Had some of the worst players and managers. Nearly went out of business. What a fucking day this is. Not just the purchase by Nas and Wes, but ultimately the return to the PL thanks to Dean, and then the past 20 or so months with the revolution sparked by Unai Emery. It’s quite emotional really and very hard to believe we have achieved this.
Very much so.
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If Carlsberg did seasons….
What a monumental achievement from everyone connected to this great club. UTV
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When's the draw?
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Job done
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Get the fuck in!!!!
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I went to the Rotterdam final and never really appreciated it at the time , probably because I thought we was going to win it loads being young .Im definitely going to appreciate being in this next season and enjoy every moment , I never thought it would happy in my lifetime . Love you Villa.
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Just brilliant, it will help attract better players to the club in the summer as well.
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We all deserve this moment, but fuck me he does too. It’s nothing short of a miracle what he has done.
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
I bet you were holding the finger on the mouse to post this...
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What an achievement this is.
Who’d of thought we’d be back eating at the top table of European football when we were getting battered at Fulham last season..
I’m so happy for those that haven’t seen, including my lad who is still running around the garden, he’s 24!😂
First timer...36.
Enjoy it, we’ve got some great game to watch and some major away days coming.
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Shout out to Glenn Whelan for missing that penalty v Preston.
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Well done Villa, fantastic achievement even more so with the number of games, we've played, it's been a long wait 41 years, thank you Unai.
UP THE VILLA
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Exactly 5 years ago, to the minute, we were about to have a penalty shoot-out in the Championship with West Brom that would determine the future of our club. Jed Steer was a hero that night, and now, just 5 years later, after some incredible squad building and performances, we're in the Champions League.
Sure, that was the dream, but to achieve it is absolutely incredible.
A trophy next please!
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This is for us all, and for those HEITS no longer with us, including especially Chelts.
UTV
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Amazing.
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Shout out to Glenn Whelan for missing that penalty v Preston.
The loss to Fulham...
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Shout out to Glenn Whelan for missing that penalty v Preston.
Haha one of the greatest penalty misses in the history of football let alone Villa.
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What a way to celebrate Jed Steer Day.
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I am travelling so can some one tell me that there is a thick band yellow ticker tape on SSN telling the world?
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Just incredible.
Love you, Villa.
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After the 5-1 opening day
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Just thought back to a discussion I remember reading earlier in the season, that we were recording our own TV series of this season, in the hope of selling it to one of the streaming services?
I'd imagine there will be something of a bidding war for it now! Will be an incredible watch...
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Exactly 5 years ago, to the minute, we were about to have a penalty shoot-out in the Championship with West Brom that would determine the future of our club. Jed Steer was a hero that night, and now, just 5 years later, after some incredible squad building and performances, we're in the Champions League.
Sure, that was the dream, but to achieve it is absolutely incredible.
A trophy next please!
When you put it like that...what a fucking journey. Great post!
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Can't believe it...didn't think it would happen in my lifetime.
Never saw it happening outside of Leicester style freak season. We have won 3 drew 1 and lost 2 v sides above us. Merit
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When the Randy/MON tilt at Champions League football came up short and the rapid decline set in, I genuinely thought it wouldn't ever happen. The chasm was unbridgeable. But dynasties fall and new ones emerge. AVFC+NSWE+SUE Our time is now.
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Just thought back to a discussion I remember reading earlier in the season, that we were recording our own TV series of this season, in the hope of selling it to one of the streaming services?
I'd imagine there will be something of a bidding war for it now! Will be an incredible watch...
I hope this is true
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I’m a believer mate. Massive. Up the Villa!
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
Yes please.
Cracking little city.
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The last time we played at this level I was 11. By the time we play our first game in the competition in September I will be 53. It's been a long time coming. Unai Emery is a genius
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Just take a moment to look and enjoy this i cant fucking believe it. We done it!
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Call me a grumpy old git but I refuse to use the CL phrase, to me it's the European Cup !
We have 8 guaranteed European Cup games up to 29th January 2025.
The 2025 European Cup Final is in Munich on 31st May 2025.
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Lots of brilliant posts and to be honest I am lost for words - what an incredible achievement! UTV
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Call me a grumpy old git but I refuse to use the CL phrase, to me it's the European Cup !
We have 8 guaranteed European Cup games up to 29th January 2025.
The 2025 European Cup Final is in Munich on 31st May 2025.
And to think we only had to play nine to win the bloody thing.
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I am a bit emotional.
What a season , with injuries pilling up, the fatigue of going deep in Europe, no favours from anyone and in particular the referees that have so many times seemed to have it in for us.
It’s an incredible achievement ,what a team, what a manager , what a club. UTV.
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Thursday 1745 KO's are so nause .
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Fuck are we back! Celtic please with Bayern and Inter for old times sake and throw in a score to settle with Juventus. Unai Emery...wow.
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From playing Burton Albion on Boxing Day 2016 to mixing it with the European elite has been a journey and a half.
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Sporting, Celtic, Internazionale and Bologna would be nice.
My wife is a Celtic fan, so playing/beating them would be very nice.
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Just hope we dont play rangers. Bit of history there and dont fancy reliving that again
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Ollie looks well pissed off. Clearly wanted Arsenal to win the title. Probably on his way there in the summer.
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ANOTHER ONEEEEEEEEEE
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790490753400963429
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Call me a grumpy old git but I refuse to use the CL phrase, to me it's the European Cup !
We have 8 guaranteed European Cup games up to 29th January 2025.
The 2025 European Cup Final is in Munich on 31st May 2025.
And to think we only had to play nine to win the bloody thing.
Every single game against Champions.
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And in amongst everything else, a lot less Sunday games!!
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I wonder if that carpet headed gobshite is watching tonight?
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One other good thing is if we go out we dont have to go into europa which i think will help us to re qualify for CL again.
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I wonder if that carpet headed gobshite is watching tonight?
Nah he's having his hair vacuumed
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We all deserve this moment, but fuck me he does too. It’s nothing short of a miracle what he has done.
Where is the photo from?
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Player awards
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Tonight's awards ceremony.
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We all deserve this moment, but fuck me he does too. It’s nothing short of a miracle what he has done.
Where is the photo from?
Awards night.
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We all deserve this moment, but fuck me he does too. It’s nothing short of a miracle what he has done.
Where is the photo from?
The club's awards night is tonight.
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That’s excellent!!
Ha ha!!
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Sporting, Celtic, Internazionale and Bologna would be nice.
My wife is a Celtic fan, so playing/beating them would be very nice.
You can’t beat your wife, it’s not allowed. Up the Villa!
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Celebrating with a cup of tea in a metal cup and a vape on the toilet at work. Not the most salubrious surroundings, but it can’t take away from this warm glow I’m feeling.
Oh shit, I forgot to take my trousers down.
Well done Villa, well done Nas and Wes for achieving your day one aim.
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We’ve all been through the ups and downs following this club over the years/decades, but the turnaround from being relegated and nearly going under to being promoted and battling our way in to 4th place and qualifying for Champions League is simply sensational.
Massive credit, thanks and congratulations to the owners, staff, players and fans that have all played their part on this amazing journey…and it’s only just begun!
For those of us that have lost family and friends along the way…RIP Villa brothers and sisters…this one is for the HEITS!!!
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I have to be up at six, how the fuck am I supposed to sleep now!
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We all deserve this moment, but fuck me he does too. It’s nothing short of a miracle what he has done.
Where is the photo from?
The club's awards night is tonight.
How fitting!
Maybe that was all part of El Maestro plan!
What a manager , what a season!
The coaching he deploys is a guaranteed formula for success!
And Its super to have an official champions league season 24/25 thread in the main top section of the user board!
Up The Villa!
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Unai. Fucking. Emery.
Build the fucking statue or name the Ellis stand after him
Steady on: that's for when we win the FA Cup!
Seriously, it's a brilliant achievement by everyone at the club. It's good to lay the ghosts of our previous near-misses at last!
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Emi will not be off then. ;-)
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790496353925087664
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Somebody looks happy with the news.
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Shout out to Glenn Whelan for missing that penalty v Preston.
The loss to Fulham...
Yep I agree. After we lost that game it felt rock bottom. I thought we could easily a Sunderland or Forest and disappear for years. Turned out to be one of the biggest turning points in the history of AVFC. Our Sliding Doors moment if you will. What's happened since that day has been miraculous.
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For those unaware as long as we dont finish below 24th we dont immediately go out of the CL. Teams between 9th to 24th will play a two legged knock out game
Only top 8 qualify. Obviously the formats designed to help the better teams stay in it for longer to kwwp the big boys happy
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
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What the fcuk is Hawes wearing?
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Magic. What a season.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790496353925087664
Don't anyone ever say again that anyone in this squad doesn't care . They've done us proud !
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Unai, this feels like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Here’s looking at you kid!!
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Maybe when a few kept calling them "bottlers" they were on about the celebratory bottles of champagne!
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.thanks dave thats helpful. Its gonna be a fucking nightmare drawing this as im assuming we cant play another british team aos how do you determine which pot 4 team plays how many from pot 1 2 and 3? If you got 2 from each of the those three that makes 6. Therefore i assume we will play 2 teams in pot 4 too tk make the 8?
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790496353925087664
I love this. What a fabulous team he’s built.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1790486693495132184¤tTweetUser=AVFCOfficial&mode=profile
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
Lump in the throat time with those lines of commentary.
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Hopefully now that we're Champions League Kippax will learn how to do Twitter links :P
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If you were sat there watching us struggle at home to Millwall and Barnsley in 2018 wondering why you bothered, this is why you bothered.
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Carlos posted this on IG. Its ace
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C69o3mUsn34/?igsh=M2MxYjk3dzd5Y2M=
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
Lump in the throat time with those lines of commentary.
That’s wonderful
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Hopefully now that we're Champions League Kippax will learn how to do Twitter links :P
It’s just so weird how crap I am at something so simple!
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Bloody lovely. These are the moments. The gleam of light on those dark evenings of the soul. The wins not won, the trophies not claimed, the players who left.
It was worth the wait.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790496353925087664
WONDERFUL..
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Kinder draw
Leizpig
Inter
Club brugge
Shaktar donesk
Maccabi tel aviv
Slavian prague
Sporting lisbon
AEK Athens
Strum gruz
Worst
Bayern munich
Barcelona
AC milan
Bayern Leverkusen
Sporting lisbon
Celtic
Galatasaray
Bologna
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Hopefully now that we're Champions League Kippax will learn how to do Twitter links :P
It’s just so weird how crap I am at something so simple!
Instead of all this
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1790486693495132184¤tTweetUser=AVFCOfficial&mode=profile
You just want
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
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Still hope you can’t play teams from your own league in the new set up
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Still hope you can’t play teams from your own league in the new set up
You can’t. It’s 2 from each pot
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.thanks dave thats helpful. Its gonna be a fucking nightmare drawing this as im assuming we cant play another british team aos how do you determine which pot 4 team plays how many from pot 1 2 and 3? If you got 2 from each of the those three that makes 6. Therefore i assume we will play 2 teams in pot 4 too tk make the 8?
Pretty sure I read somewhere that you can play teams from your domestic league.
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I don't think it really matters whether we are in Pot 3 or Pot 4. None of the other teams in those two pots would worry me much. Nor do half the teams in Pot 2.
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https://twitter.com/jasonmohammad/status/1790485676615438477
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
That beings fucking tears to your eyes. All the hard works paid off.
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Exactly! My thoughts too.
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Somebody looks happy with the news.
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Not so much Ollie.
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I don't think it really matters whether we are in Pot 3 or Pot 4. None of the other teams in those two pots would worry me much. Nor do half the teams in Pot 2.
Exactimundo Fonzi!
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We'd better get used to hearing this
https://twitter.com/avfcbreaking/status/1790485161848496141
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https://twitter.com/IanTaylor7/status/1790491970067914956/photo/1
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2019 championship to 2024 champions league is incredible.
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Unai, this feels like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Here’s looking at you kid!!
I'm shocked! Shocked to find that Champions League is going on in here.
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Bit of dust in my eye every time we get another one of these videos. Credit to Gary Neville for congratulating us at the end which you can hear in the Emery reaction clip.
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To think 6 years ago Tony shit shoes had pushed this great club to the brink.
In steps Wes and Nas to transform this club in 6 years, incredible.
Unai Emery and the players deserve this so much, well done.
In August put my first bet on in 15 years, Villa to finish in top 4.
UTV
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I'm in dreamland! To have this discussion topic is pure delight! To be honest, I'm just going to read and be there in spirit for a while and let it all sink in!! I am unable to express what this means. How I've watched Champions League, and now to be part of it is awesome!
Can I state that I believe H&V will gain a heck load more members now that Aston Villa are a Champions League club!
Interest in our club will skyrocket!
It's a win-win situation for everyone, all I want to do right now is read everyone else's comments in the discussion! It's all really overwhelming and thrilling, and I think everyone here is amazing, even if we don't all share the same opinions about Villa players and about what is respectful language, prayers to the lord and have differing tolerance levels towards each other views and the Villa players themselves, we do all share a love for Villa!!
This club brings us all together!
Up The Villa!
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I was sent a link to something on Facebook. I read the comments and was blown away by how many wellwishers we had on there from many clubs fans and at all levels.
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I'll take the group of death. I want the big boys Madrid Juve Celtic, something like that
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To think 6 years ago Tony shit shoes had pushed this great club to the brink.
In steps Wes and Nas to transform this club in 6 years, incredible.
Unai Emery and the players deserve this so much, well done.
In August put my first bet on in 15 years, Villa to finish in top 4.
UTV
Not forgetting Dean Smith.
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2019 championship to 2024 champions league is incredible.
Yeah, and to think just 24 hours ago people were saying we really didn’t deserve Champions League.
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To think 6 years ago Tony shit shoes had pushed this great club to the brink.
In steps Wes and Nas to transform this club in 6 years, incredible.
Unai Emery and the players deserve this so much, well done.
In August put my first bet on in 15 years, Villa to finish in top 4.
UTV
Not forgetting Dean Smith.
Indeed!
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To think 6 years ago Tony shit shoes had pushed this great club to the brink.
In steps Wes and Nas to transform this club in 6 years, incredible.
Unai Emery and the players deserve this so much, well done.
In August put my first bet on in 15 years, Villa to finish in top 4.
UTV
Not forgetting Dean Smith.
Absolutely, he got us back to Prem.
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https://twitter.com/jasonmohammad/status/1790485676615438477
He posts on here, but calls himself Dinas.
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I can't believe we've made it. I'm so happy for everyone involved with our wonderful club. A monumental effort & achievement. We deserve it.
I was only 19 the last time we were at the top table & never for a second did I think we'd be away for this long.
But I'm happiest most of all for my 30 year old Son who's witnessed nothing much better than mediocrity for most of his life. UTV
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.thanks dave thats helpful. Its gonna be a fucking nightmare drawing this as im assuming we cant play another british team aos how do you determine which pot 4 team plays how many from pot 1 2 and 3? If you got 2 from each of the those three that makes 6. Therefore i assume we will play 2 teams in pot 4 too tk make the 8?
Yes, it is two teams from all four pots no matter which pot we would be in, and we play one of those teams at home, and the other away from each pot as well. So it isn't just the names we would like to see in any discussion, but would we want to play them home or away.
Not sure what convoluted way that they draw each team though. At a guess the first name from the first pot will then have two selected from each of the pots to start filling in the spider web, then the next one will have the same, with names removed* / draws removed** until they all have the selected draws.
* If a team in pot 3 has already been drawn against Pot 1 teams twice, then a third pot 1 team wouldn't be allowed to draw them.
** If a team in Pot 1 had already been drawn against another pot 1 team earlier, then they would only have one draw left in that pot rather then 2.
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It’s a wonderful problem to be a part of
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I'm absolutely certain that Dean Smith will be raising a glass or two at this point.
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I’m proper emotional.
No doubt after a good drink in Greece, but bloody hell. The actual champions league. Like, that one the top top clubs in Europe are in.
That now includes us. At long fucking last. It’s been a long time coming. Literally a generation. And in that time we’ve endured some awful times. Times that a club like us shouldn’t have to. Two relegations since our last time in this competition (oh and two league cup wins as well)
Less than two years ago we were looking at a genuine relegation fight. The turnaround is ridiculous. But miraculous. This manager , is a God send. With our epic owners I hope we now build a dynasty.
My first game was 1982 ( glory hunter I know)
But for the first time in my adult life I can say this
“We’re back where we belong “.
Amazing achievement by every single part of Aston Villa.
I love this club.
So to blues , after Enckleman , fuck you ans your league 2 season.
To Wolves , and you “ mind the gap “ after a few season in the last 100 of being better than us , double “fuck you”
To the press , yes this “ little “ midlands club has upset your “big 6”, so fuck you as well.
Shout out to Dean Smith. He took over at a pivotal time. He made us believe. He brought us together. He got us back to where we should be. And this team, is still mostly his team, so massive respect.
But Sir Unai Emery , you are something else. Please be with us for a generation. Be the next Feegie, Arsene or Pep. But just be here you lovely Spanish man you.
As for the Champions league next year……
Would you bet against us ?
UTV
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNkTqbbW0AAQeSV?format=jpg)
I'll take the group of death. I want the big boys Madrid Juve Celtic, something like that
Amazing to think we have made it to the CL! I thought we would do it after we beat Arsenal, but then we hit that iffy patch, understandably in the circumstances.
Already looking ahead, I think Celtic would be much more preferable than Sporting or Lille or even the two Dutch clubs as they are both much better than the Dutch teams we faced this season.
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In May 1982 myself and my wife were living and working in Spain. It was the year before our first daughter was born and I remember listening to the radio on the last day of the season when we lost to Arsenal (?) but still managed to win the league. I watched our finest hour on tv and desperately needed to celebrate. So I went for a walk around the largely deserted Catalan small town near Barcelona where we lived, went into an empty bar and bought a San Miguel. 'We just won the European Cup', I said to the barman, who nodded disinterestedly. I drank up, went home and that was my night of celebration. 42 years of mainly hurt since then and I can, in my 70s, celebrate again. All my other-team-supporting mates have sent genuine messages of support, really pleased that another team is breaking into the Sky elite. Long may it continue. I love my Villa and love what they stand for. No excuses, no Billy Big Bollocks, no sideline tantrums, no criticising the officials, just a genuine set of nice guys led by a superhuman nice guy leading us to some kind of success - at last, with great tactical nous and bloody hard work. can't wait for next season (as if this one hasn't been enough).
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790486693495132184
The state of that Arsenal fan in the top reply. Totally skips the Arse result in the current form selection he chose, and also seems to forget that this season was their first past the first knockout stage since 2010.
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We really are there
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNkbYv9XUAAJ2Fc?format=jpg&name=small)
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I dont believe it. It doesn't feel real. I can't stop thinking about those 7 added minutes against Derby for some reason. From there to here. Just wow. Incredible! Look who we're playing next season!
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I remember being at Melpensa Airport in Milan and meeting a group of Arsenal fans just after we had been battered by them 5-0 at Highbury (Maybe our last game there,?). They were heading to Turin to play Juve. I pointed out that I had been in Rotterdam to see Villa win the European Cup, but had never seen us in a Champions League game and quite frankly didn't expect to in my life time. How wrong I was...
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At times in this season I have had a recurring nightmare that Whelan scores the penalty v.Preston.
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We really are there
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNkbYv9XUAAJ2Fc?format=jpg&name=small)
I know, giddy by association seems small time but you know what? 'Liverpool. Aston Villa. Real Madrid.' It's not that we're flattered to be among those names; it's that it just feels right. We're back where we belong.
And you know, while we're being nice to the rest of football, might as well make this small point. Back when I was barely an adult, and MON was giving us concussions from hitting that glass ceiling, the team that really opened my eyes to why he was falling, to what we were doing wrong, was Guardiola's Barcelona. Eggish bellend he may have become, but there's a touch of poetry in his getting the result that confirmed the end of that failure. For me at least.
Of course, rather more poetry in the identity of the guy who really got us there. Unai Emery, you are the actual, legit, no-word-of-a-lie best. Back where we belong, and he's the man who brought us there. Just the best.
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I think back to the summer of 2018, when we faced the very real possibility of selling Grealish, James Chester and Albert Adomah just to stay afloat.
A bit different now, isn't it.
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I'm absolutely certain that Dean Smith will be raising a glass or two at this point.
Yep and hopefully acknowledging the part he played in getting the club to this position.
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Pivotal.
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Delighted for everyone, obviously, but looking at Pau Torres celebrating in one of those videos I'm really glad for him that his move paid off. We were linked with many big name players last summer who apparently dismissed us out of hand, so for someone like Torres, who could have moved elsewhere at different times, to leave his boyhood club, and put his faith in Emery and buy into the vision he had, it's fantastic to see it rewarded.
I suppose the same goes for Diaby, but I didn't see him in the video.
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Guess the ‘Thursday night’ song is a thing of the past for a while :-)
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Made up as I was a baby the last time we were in it. I know we are unlikely to win it but to just be there and what it will do for the club. This is what we should be aiming for every year. Well done and what a season! What a week!
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I’m proper emotional.
No doubt after a good drink in Greece, but bloody hell. The actual champions league. Like, that one the top top clubs in Europe are in.
That now includes us. At long fucking last. It’s been a long time coming. Literally a generation. And in that time we’ve endured some awful times. Times that a club like us shouldn’t have to. Two relegations since our last time in this competition (oh and two league cup wins as well)
Less than two years ago we were looking at a genuine relegation fight. The turnaround is ridiculous. But miraculous. This manager , is a God send. With our epic owners I hope we now build a dynasty.
My first game was 1982 ( glory hunter I know)
But for the first time in my adult life I can say this
“We’re back where we belong “.
Amazing achievement by every single part of Aston Villa.
I love this club.
So to blues , after Enckleman , fuck you ans your league 2 season.
To Wolves , and you “ mind the gap “ after a few season in the last 100 of being better than us , double “fuck you”
To the press , yes this “ little “ midlands club has upset your “big 6”, so fuck you as well.
Shout out to Dean Smith. He took over at a pivotal time. He made us believe. He brought us together. He got us back to where we should be. And this team, is still mostly his team, so massive respect.
But Sir Unai Emery , you are something else. Please be with us for a generation. Be the next Feegie, Arsene or Pep. But just be here you lovely Spanish man you.
As for the Champions league next year……
Would you bet against us ?
UTV
And people consider me to be the late-night drunken poster...
Enjoy yourself, mate 😁
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Steer, Uncle Albert, Chester risking his career, Hourihane, Tammy, Hutton, Jedi, Trez, AEG, just a few of the players no longer at the club that played their part in where we are now.
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Also, the reason we qualified:
Villa: City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool - 5 points
Spurs: City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool - 0 points
That's the difference. We did it with an empty tank too. Love them.
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Guess the ‘Thursday night’ song is a thing of the past for a while :-)
Oh what a night
We play Barca on a Wednesday night
Blues play Lincoln cos they're fucking shite
What a feeling what a night
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A phenomenal achievement.
Well done to everyone involved in the team, and the club.
Unai said we would impose our idea in the moment, and he knew what what he was talking about.
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Steer, Uncle Albert, Chester risking his career, Hourihane, Tammy, Hutton, Jedi, Trez, AEG, just a few of the players no longer at the club that played their part in where we are now.
Not forgetting Super Jack. 8)
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Well done Villa on making the top 4. A fantastic achievement bearing in mind where we were just 19 months ago. Unai and his team are magicians and our team of players are a fantastic honest bunch. 10 points out of 18 against the 3 teams above us is a fantastic return and in itself justifies our position.
We’ve well and truly broken up the monopoly of the scab 6 in the pl and hopefully in the cl we can also do likewise with the super-league pretenders!
Go and get your 20th goal now Ollie vs Palace…you deserve it!
UTV!
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Steer, Uncle Albert, Chester risking his career, Hourihane, Tammy, Hutton, Jedi, Trez, AEG, just a few of the players no longer at the club that played their part in where we are now.
Not forgetting Super Jack. 8)
Only one of them fucked off because they thought they were too good for us.
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Steer, Uncle Albert, Chester risking his career, Hourihane, Tammy, Hutton, Jedi, Trez, AEG, just a few of the players no longer at the club that played their part in where we are now.
Not forgetting Super Jack. 8)
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Well done to every person that played their role in this - no matter how small - its something I never thought I would see.
Over the last five years some great people have done some great things for our club - and to see UCL football at Villa Park is something truly special.
The players have left nothing on the pitch - and everyone of them has played their part. Expect (nah only joking!!!)
Most of all - thanks must go to Unai - we are lucky enough to be in the presence of true greatness, and I feel lucky every game he is in our dugout!
I've had a shit workday - and still at it - once this sinks in I think ill be a bit emotional - I was last night.
It's been a privilege to witness this, be at the games, and share the experience with friends, family, and this forum.
Officially this has now overtaken the 1992-3 season as my favorite supporting Villa - again, I never thought that would happen!
VTID!!
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It doesn't seem 5 minutes since that soul destroying evening at Craven Cottage and yet, here we are!
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1790496353925087664
Ok - that broke me :-)
UTV
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It truly is unbelievable. What an achievement!! Bask in it!!
Build on it!
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Steer, Uncle Albert, Chester risking his career, Hourihane, Tammy, Hutton, Jedi, Trez, AEG, just a few of the players no longer at the club that played their part in where we are now.
Not forgetting Super Jack. 8)
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Hahaha! Pictures say a thousand words, mate!
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Guess the ‘Thursday night’ song is a thing of the past for a while :-)
Oh what a night
We play Barca on a Wednesday night
Lincoln play Blues cos they're fucking shite
What a feeling what a night
FTFY
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To get to the Champions League is one thing but we will be there in our 150th year. Call me sentimental but I think the old Villa ghosts played a part, what a feeling and what a club.
Up the F*cking Villa
HEITS
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Really quite emotional thinking about how far we have come in so short a time.
I was 24 when I saw us play Dinamo Bucharest at VP in 1982 in defence of the European Cup we had won the previous season.
I'm 66 now and never thought I would live to see the day that we would actually be playing in the Championa League.
It hasn't really sunk in yet but absolutely over the moon.
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To get to the Champions League is one thing but we will be there in our 150th year. Call me sentimental but I think the old Villa ghosts played a part, what a feeling and what a club.
Up the F*cking Villa
HEITS
Absolutely! It's a same we couldn't have picked up a bit of European silverware this year but we have a lot to celebrate in our 150th anniversary.
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To get to the Champions League is one thing but we will be there in our 150th year. Call me sentimental but I think the old Villa ghosts played a part, what a feeling and what a club.
Up the F*cking Villa
HEITS
Absolutely! It's a same we couldn't have picked up a bit of European silverware this year but we have a lot to celebrate in our 150th anniversary.
We're saving ourselves for the big one.
Aston Villa 2024-25: two-time Champions of Europe.
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The Conference League is a mickey mouse cup, never wanted to win it*, we're back where we belong.
*Love you really.
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The Conference League is a mickey mouse cup, never wanted to win it*, we're back where we belong.
*Love you really.
Would've been nice to win it, wouldn't it?
Never mind, not to be.
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Was 15 when we beat BM 1-0 in Rotterdam. It’s been a largely miserable 40 years since and I’m absolutely over the moon at what we have achieve this season.
The owners, coaches, manager, players to a tee deserve tremendous respect - they have given us belief, a style of play, and results we could only ever have dreamt of 2 years back. .
I’m in awe. I have never been so proud. I think the next few years are going to be difficult but we just need to keep progressing. Roll with it. Recognise we will face adversity. But, if we stick together, this might just be the birth of a beautiful era.
To Unai - sir, you are a legend already.
To the owners - thank you
To the squad - love you all
And to my fellow fans - believe.
Up the Fuckin Villa
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What a night! Compared to almost all of you, I'm a relative newcomer. Not from Birmingham, not even English, no relative or friend in sight that supported the team. Just an American vagabond, looking for a team to adopt (or maybe it was a team to adopt me), when the owner of my beloved Cleveland Browns bought the team, and I was all in. Team owners have come and gone since for both teams, but just like the Browns, I'm a fan for life now.
Hard to believe it's been almost 20 years now, but I've seen the near rise to prominence under MON, the collapse when he left, and the parade of coaches and players that plagued us for years after. Much like the Browns, we've had promises of great players, only to see them leave or never pan out. And also like the Browns, both teams hit rock bottom around the same time in the late 2010's.
But I'm glad I stayed on the rollercoaster though. This season has been incredible and tonight was the final cherry on top. We're in Champions League! The thing we were so close to when I first started rooting for this team, and the thing the seemed so far away just a few seasons ago. We did it! Thank you Unai! Thank you every one of you players! I can't wait to see what happens next year.
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What a night! Compared to almost all of you, I'm a relative newcomer. Not from Birmingham, not even English, no relative or friend in sight that supported the team. Just an American vagabond, looking for a team to adopt (or maybe it was a team to adopt me), when the owner of my beloved Cleveland Browns bought the team, and I was all in. Team owners have come and gone since for both teams, but just like the Browns, I'm a fan for life now.
Hard to believe it's been almost 20 years now, but I've seen the near rise to prominence under MON, the collapse when he left, and the parade of coaches and players that plagued us for years after. Much like the Browns, we've had promises of great players, only to see them leave or never pan out. And also like the Browns, both teams hit rock bottom around the same time in the late 2010's.
But I'm glad I stayed on the rollercoaster though. This season has been incredible and tonight was the final cherry on top. We're in Champions League! The thing we were so close to when I first started rooting for this team, and the thing the seemed so far away just a few seasons ago. We did it! Thank you Unai! Thank you every one of you players! I can't wait to see what happens next year.
Much love, brother! We love each other and we love you.
UTV
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Last night, Liverpool made four subs who cost approx £200m between them. We brought on a loanee from the Turkish league, a kid signed from the MLS and Callum Chambers. We finished one place below that team.
All credit to Emery and the players who despite the injuries, setbacks, fatigue and pressure chamber of competing near the top all season managed this incredible achievement in just his first full season with the club. I just can’t believe we’ve finally done it.
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Speechless. At last. 36 years a villain and now this. I love my club and everything it stands for. Up the Villa.
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Aston Villa are in the Champions League - This is how they will benefit financially.
By Jacob Tanswell, The Athletic
Tottenham Hotspur’s 2-0 defeat to Manchester City means Aston Villa have secured fourth place and qualified for next season’s Champions League. It is a seminal milestone in Villa’s recent history, a mark of Unai Emery’s influence and will bring broader benefits to the day-to-day running of the club.
It has come at the just the right time, too, for the progression of the team on the pitch and as a way of mitigating some of the growing financial constraints they are facing.
But just how much is Champions League football worth to Aston Villa? The Athletic explains here.
When Villa released its latest set of financial accounts, the reliance on Emery and his players to reach new heights was underlined. For a club that had not participated in Europe in 13 years before qualifying for the Europa Conference League last season, it appeared unusual to be so dependent on finishing in the top four this time around.
However, the £119.6million ($149.8m) incurred in losses post-tax was the standout, concerning figure. It has served to be a delicate financial act, with Villa juggling aspirations on the pitch and financial compliance off it. Broadly speaking, strategy centres on managing concerns around profit and sustainability rules (PSR).
Although Villa stated the post-tax loss fell in line with “the strategic business plan” and that it “operates within the Premier League’s PSR”, off-field decision-makers, such as president of business operations Chris Heck, have made concerted attempts to increase revenue streams hastily.
From a footballing viewpoint, Villa sold promising youth talents last summer while retaining buy-back clauses. This ensured they banked pure bookable profit that could go into their financial accounts while keeping a form of influence over players’ futures.
Champions League riches will add to the revenue pot for the next set of accounts and help alleviate the pressures of breaching PSR, which Villa have been dangerously straying towards. Last month, NSWE, Villa’s ownership group, appointed Bjorn Schuurmans as a secretary. Schuurmans is a lawyer by trade and has worked in tax and structuring at other companies. This area of expertise, ostensibly, will be relied upon in managing this summer’s finances.
Villa’s wages-to-turnover ratio — the percentage of money spent on employees’ salaries — stood at 89 per cent in 2022 and 2023, the fourth highest in the Premier League. It is a concern, though, that the three clubs above were Leicester City, Nottingham Forest and Everton, all of whom have breached PSR rules and are in varying processes of being sanctioned.
It is what made the yearn for Champions League football at Villa Park next season so pressing. Not only did it stand as a monumental achievement and further evidence of Emery’s brilliance, but it pulled the club out of the deeper depths of PSR ramifications. In short, Villa’s qualification will bring an immediate cheque for £16.02m, an increase from the £13.44m teams received for entering Europe’s blue-chip competition this season.
Next campaign’s Champions League will introduce a new format, with a 36-team league phase. Overall, £372million in prize money will be distributed, boosted by the sharp climb in the number of games. There will be 189 fixtures — 64 more than the previous competition structure and with a guarantee of one more home game in the league phase.
In short, more games means more money and, considering Villa generated £18.76m from gate receipts last season — revenues generated by the sale of matchday tickets — this is particularly relevant when increasing broader areas of revenue.
Each of the 36 clubs will be ranked by an average of the two calculations. One share will be given to the last-ranked club and all the way through to the 36 shares given to the top-ranked club.
Carved up, the prize pot is forecasted to be worth around £2.13billion, again a rise from the £1.75bn this season, representing around a 22 per cent revenue increase.
Every win in the league phase is expected to bring £1.81m, with a draw worth £603,000. As with the Premier League’s distribution of wealth, the higher up the table you finish, the more money you get. This will range from £8.61m for the top team, while clubs in the top eight will receive an additional £1.72m as a bonus for qualifying for the knockout stages, with £860,000 going to those from ninth to 16th.
Money will be split four ways: 30 per cent in performance-related fees, 25 per cent of total revenues in participation fees, 15 per cent for a ‘market pool’ (the value of TV rights sold in a club’s country) and another 30 per cent in a club’s 10-year coefficient calculation.
Villa are ranked 81st in the UEFA coefficient, having failed to improve on that standing after they were knocked out in the Europa Conference League semi-finals by Olympiacos.
Crucially, though, Villa’s revenue streams will be augmented by its growth in reputation and place in the Champions League. Sources who share existing knowledge of recent deals — and spoke on the condition of anonymity — have told The Athletic that commercial agreements with Villa include ‘kickers’. This means the club will receive additional revenue due to reaching the top four.
Other recent commercial partnerships, such as with new front-of-shirt sponsor Betano, have incentivised clauses: Villa will unlock a new amount of sponsorship money from the betting company upon qualification. The same is true with existing shirt sleeve sponsor Trade Nation, with Villa using its better position to negotiate a more lucrative agreement for next season.
In February, The Athletic learned that Villa had attempted to extract itself from its initial agreement with their previous front-of-shirt sponsor, Asian gambling company BK8, seeking a more lucrative contract that would help drive revenue and comply with PSR.
At the time, Betano, despite multiple attempts to speak to those responsible, did not respond for comment. The new deal is a respectable increase on the pre-existing agreement with BK8 and will be on Villa’s kit for the 2024-25 campaign, alongside kit manufacturer Adidas. Villa cut ties with previous kit manufacturer Castore a year early.
Castore's kit struggles: 'Wet-look' Aston Villa kits, torn shirts at other clubs
Despite the heavy losses incurred, Villa’s 2022-23 revenue increased to £217.7million, up from £178.4million in the previous year. This is expected to rise again, factoring in Conference League participation as well as Champions League qualification.
“The baseline, ballpark sum for an English club is a minimum £50million,” Dr Dan Plumley, a sports finance expert and lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University, told The Athletic.
“That’s the sum we’ve usually attached to Champions League qualification, but there will be scope for more next season. It’s going to be more lucrative because of changes to the distribution and the English clubs will continue to win because of their position in the market pool.”
Villa’s Champions League qualification puts a flag in the sand of the Emery era. Off-field figures share the view that his coaching has lifted several departments across the club, who now all need to play catch-up in matching the elevated standards on the pitch.
It is specifically because of Emery and his players that Villa will have access to greater riches — allowing them to ease PSR fears and benefit those responsible for managing the club’s budget in the years to come.
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As one man said "Would you like to bet against us", up yours Tottenham sky and Tottenham talksport
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Guess the ‘Thursday night’ song is a thing of the past for a while :-)
Oh what a night
We play Barca on a Wednesday night
Blues play Lincoln cos they're fucking shite
What a feeling what a night
Like it
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I can't believe we've made it. I'm so happy for everyone involved with our wonderful club. A monumental effort & achievement. We deserve it.
I was only 19 the last time we were at the top table & never for a second did I think we'd be away for this long.
But I'm happiest most of all for my 30 year old Son who's witnessed nothing much better than mediocrity for most of his life. UTV
Same here
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I can't believe we've made it. I'm so happy for everyone involved with our wonderful club. A monumental effort & achievement. We deserve it.
I was only 19 the last time we were at the top table & never for a second did I think we'd be away for this long.
But I'm happiest most of all for my 30 year old Son who's witnessed nothing much better than mediocrity for most of his life. UTV
Same here
Are you the Son of John 2710?
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2019 championship to 2024 champions league is incredible.
Yeah, and to think just 24 hours ago people were saying we really didn’t deserve Champions League.
As the great Bill Shankly said "the table doesn't lie "
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Woke up very early, absolute wired with excitement, love our wonderful club.
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Saw the interview with Unai at the awards show, absolutely brilliant
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I am travelling so can some one tell me that there is a thick band yellow ticker tape on SSN telling the world?
Translates also to Tottenham f""ked it up
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CHAMPIONS FUCKING LEAGUE BABY !!!!!!!
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Good morning heroes and vilians what a beautiful morning ☀️☀️☀️
Champions fucking league baby!!
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
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Woke up very early, absolute wired with excitement, love our wonderful club.
I was 5 foot 10 inches tall yesterday, today I am 6 foot 4.
So very proud of Aston Villa.
Onwards and upwards.
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
When you unai shouts up the villa man how can no villa fan love this man
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I grew up thinking my Villa were the bollocks. Listening on the wireless when we finally won the '77 League Cup. Basking in the reflective glory of their achievements in 81/82.
Getting to watch my heroes, Morley, Mortimer, Withe, Shaw, Evans and many more in the flesh, as a star-struck youngster.
I thought they were the greatest team in the world. I still do.
Thanks to my now departed father and brother for ensuring I followed the right club.
So proud.
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What an achievement this is.
Who’d of thought we’d be back eating at the top table of European football when we were getting battered at Fulham last season..
I’m so happy for those that haven’t seen, including my lad who is still running around the garden, he’s 24!😂
First timer...36.
First timer....39
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
Just love that.
We have a dream.
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SSN back on the Bye Bye Bingo Bandwagon. 6Music it is then.
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Lucky Omen ... Our present captain's surname begins with an M. Our leading striker's surname begins with a W.
I like your thinking, ALITA !!
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''Only when you've been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to stand atop the highest mountain."
God the f****** love this football club of ours.
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''Only when you've been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to stand atop the highest mountain."
God the f****** love this football club of ours.
We're...we're quoting Nixon??
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
Just love that.
We have a dream.
That’s a fantastic watch, the elation just pours out of that film.
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Really is a fantastic achievement. I thought we’d run out of steam and Spurs would pip us to 4th, but after such a brilliant performance against Liverpool we deserve to be where we are. What a manager, what a team, bring on next season.
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1st November every single year is now Unai Emery day.
I’m shedding a tear the sheer happiness, exhilarating feeling I’m having. Mrs Remy said the earth moved for her last night.
What a way to bring in our 150th year of my club.
Not even Sky Sports news ticker tape of Everton something takeover over our magnificent achievement as gross as was expected - wankers.
Aston Villa are a bloody good team - get used to it!
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2019 championship to 2024 champions league is incredible.
Yeah, and to think just 24 hours ago people were saying we really didn’t deserve Champions League.
😜😜
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''Only when you've been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to stand atop the highest mountain."
God the f****** love this football club of ours.
We're...we're quoting Nixon??
Yes we are, politics aside I thought it was apt.
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Even Bbc breakfast showed the awards celebrations
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
Just love that.
We have a dream.
That’s a fantastic watch, the elation just pours out of that film.
Fucking hell that brought a tear to my eye. UP THE VILLA!
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This club means so much to me, it is my love - i admit I shed a few tears last night after we qualified for the Champions League and also this morning reading the various comments on here.
I would love it if we got Juventus at home, as they were the last team that we played in the European Cup but this time we beat them!!!!
Thank you so much Unai and everyone who has made this possible, you have made a nearly 60 year old man so happy.
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That is superb . Good to see Hause there too .
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To get CL on awards night was probably the second best way of doing it then on the pitch. It meant the club could all celebrate together at a time when partying late has been taken into account of anyway.
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That is superb . Good to see Hause there too .
Even if Mcginn forgot he existed…
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Our CEO on my organisations weekly catchup started the call by congratulating "me" on Champions League Qualification.
He said, there's your annual leave done from September to December.
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When can we start asking when the draw is? :P
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When can we start asking when the draw is? :P
29th August mate.
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When can we start asking when the draw is? :P
29th August. Mark your diaries here https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0287-1964b9b0f4ce-e069b2345f39-1000--2024-25-uefa-champions-league-matches-final-key-dates/
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a very big smile on my face today for some reason...:)
UTV
The Doc
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Smethwick and Small Heath very quiet today. I had a few snarky messages when we went out the ECL last week, but nowt now...strange.
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I was 8 weeks & 3 days old when we last won it. 42 now. Chuffed to bits, it's nice to be back where we belong.
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(https://i.ibb.co/173SSHV/IMG-0377.png) (https://ibb.co/173SSHV)
Haha, we have a sofa bed and air mattress in our apartment. If we make it to the final, party at mine, I'm sure my wife won't mind ...
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When you think there are possibly 2 generations of fans who have never seen us in Europe's premier team competition! Come on Villa!
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
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It will probably be classed as small time thinking, but I won't be fussed at not progressing past the league stages this year.
Next year we should look at consolidating / improving on 4th and maybe a domestic trophy as a priority. It is a waste of this season if we don't qualify again next season. I don't want us to be seen as a Newcastle or Leicester, but as a team that consistently is in it and progressing the team through to be able to compete in the knock-out rounds. It took City/Guardiola with their resources almost 8 years to win it.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Even if they do leave (and I don't think any of them will), pretty much every one of their contracts will probably have a "qualifying for the Champions League" bonus in it.
And they're celebrating their professional achivement. Chambers looked to be having a lovely old time as well, and there's no chance he's going to be playing any Champions League football for us.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Ashley Young thought/hoped he was staying after the last game of last season. He was not.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Ashley Young thought/hoped he was staying after the last game of last season. He was not.
They all should be celebrating regardless of what happens over the next couple of months.
No room for sentiment I'm afraid - look at Fergie when he finally got hold of the dressing room.
We need a better right back and probably a younger and less costly left back than one of the 2 we have. Ditto Carlos as 4th choice CB.
That said Champions League pressures means retention of some may occur than otherwise would have been the case.
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If we get Lille in our group it would be nice to twat them out of existence just to confirm our superiority
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The last time we played at this level I was 11. By the time we play our first game in the competition in September I will be 53. It's been a long time coming. Unai Emery is a genius
Me too. How bizarre, and what a journey.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Even if they do leave (and I don't think any of them will), pretty much every one of their contracts will probably have a "qualifying for the Champions League" bonus in it.
And they're celebrating their professional achivement. Chambers looked to be having a lovely old time as well, and there's no chance he's going to be playing any Champions League football for us.
They definitely deserve to celebrate the achievement regardless, and I never thought about the bonus aspect.
If finances allow I'd be keeping them all, but I've a feeling at least one of the three I mentioned will leave.
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It will probably be classed as small time thinking, but I won't be fussed at not progressing past the league stages this year.
Next year we should look at consolidating / improving on 4th and maybe a domestic trophy as a priority. It is a waste of this season if we don't qualify again next season. I don't want us to be seen as a Newcastle or Leicester, but as a team that consistently is in it and progressing the team through to be able to compete in the knock-out rounds. It took City/Guardiola with their resources almost 8 years to win it.
I agree, if we are in a title race which is quite possible (man city won't win 5 consecutive, and liverpool will be again in transition) domestic league should be the priority. We've certainly limped over the line this time due to injuries and fatigue.
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I'm in dreamland! To have this discussion topic is pure delight! To be honest, I'm just going to read and be there in spirit for a while and let it all sink in!! I am unable to express what this means. How I've watched Champions League, and now to be part of it is awesome!
Can I state that I believe H&V will gain a heck load more members now that Aston Villa are a Champions League club!
Interest in our club will skyrocket!
It's a win-win situation for everyone, all I want to do right now is read everyone else's comments in the discussion! It's all really overwhelming and thrilling, and I think everyone here is amazing, even if we don't all share the same opinions about Villa players and about what is respectful language, prayers to the lord and have differing tolerance levels towards each other views and the Villa players themselves, we do all share a love for Villa!!
This club brings us all together!
Up The Villa!
Ah shit, you can't have everything I suppose.
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Will it still be possible for some teams who don't make it into the last 16 of the Champions League to move into the Europa Cup, or has that been done away with now?
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Ashley Young thought/hoped he was staying after the last game of last season. He was not.
They all should be celebrating regardless of what happens over the next couple of months.
No room for sentiment I'm afraid - look at Fergie when he finally got hold of the dressing room.
We need a better right back and probably a younger and less costly left back than one of the 2 we have. Ditto Carlos as 4th choice CB.
That said Champions League pressures means retention of some may occur than otherwise would have been the case.
It would not surprise me if all of them start the season with us.
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Going from 17th to 4th is a huge achievement.
As is going from the Championship to the Champions League within five years.
Especially with all of the limits & barriers put in place by the status quo & their self interests.
But today, isn't about the issues. It's about the achievement.
I am so proud of them all. And so happy.
Its not a trophy or a title, but its a sign of progression that I though would come with Lerner.
So to go through that decade in the darkness & come out where we are, I think it makes this achievement all the more special.
Congratulations to the owners. Congratulations to the manager. Congratulations to the players. Congratulations to tbe fans. Congratulations to the groundspeople. Congratulations to the backroom staff. Congratulations to the mascot. Congratulations to everybody.
And happy mother-fucking days... 😁
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Wow so very different format. I had an image of us meeting FB Torshavn for two legs in late July or something...
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If you’ve not seen it before, the new CL format explained
https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1790638416238952797?s=46
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Will it still be possible for some teams who don't make it into the last 16 of the Champions League to move into the Europa Cup, or has that been done away with now?
Thats been scrapped and i prefer that. There shouldnt be second chances. Once you are out you are out.
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Is it 8 teams, 2 from each pot?
So how do they decide Home and Away?
Is the same country rule still there?
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Erm, we are in the Champions League. I woke up and put the theme music on first thing and my lad came charging down, 'we did it? We did it!'
Bragging rights at school.
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Hopefully we can finish in the top 36.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Even if they do leave (and I don't think any of them will), pretty much every one of their contracts will probably have a "qualifying for the Champions League" bonus in it.
And they're celebrating their professional achivement. Chambers looked to be having a lovely old time as well, and there's no chance he's going to be playing any Champions League football for us.
Yeah, I think qualifying for the Champions League puts a slightly different focus on it personally. We can realistically keep Moreno + Digne now, they're a strong pair of left backs to have and Digne's wages will be less problematic with CL cash flowing around. Likewise Cash, I could see us adding another RB but keeping him on, at least for next season.
Carlos is maybe the odd one there as it sounds like Milan were/are quite keen on offering us a load of cash for him, and he doesn't seem to overly fit with the way Emery sets the team up. Again, I don't think it's necessarily critical that we flog him but I could see us selling Carlos and bringing in another central defender. That'd give a back 4 of something like:
Cash / ? - Konsa / ? - Mings / Torres - Moreno / Digne
Which'd look pretty tasty to me, capable of being strong on two fronts simultaneously.
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As one man said "Would you like to bet against us",
Quite a few on here did. They lost.
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If we get Lille in our group it would be nice to twat them out of existence just to confirm our superiority
they were a good side and we got lucky getting past them.
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Hopefully we can finish in the top 36.
Dolly O'Dreary be like "We can't expect to be in the top turty-six wit de Boltons and Charltins of dis world".
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I would tweak one thing looking at the format - the 9th to 24th should be a one off game.
Those finishing 9th - 16th having home advantage.
'Dons helmet'
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Still on pins that we've done it but the reality is that we need to invest hugely in the squad while somehow staying within the latest financial constraints. Notwithstanding the cash injection of being in the CL there is still a huge outlay needed to be competitive or even just to keep pace at all. We wanted it, we got it, and now we have to pay for it - all of us...
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
You took a chance there mate, starting the thread at 9.56 when there were still 3 minutes of added time left. Didn't you fear that the extra-ordinary, sensational goal machine that Ange has assembled will rip through mancity and score 3 goals?
By the way the Ange's team has scored only one more goal than Conte's.
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I would tweak one thing looking at the format - the 9th to 24th should be a one off game.
Those finishing 9th - 16th having home advantage.
'Dons helmet'
Fuck me, I use to take your posts seriously. You get let down in life everyday, mostly from those you trust :'(
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Hopefully we can finish in the top 36.
Haha. Top 24 would do me.
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I would tweak one thing looking at the format - the 9th to 24th should be a one off game.
Those finishing 9th - 16th having home advantage.
'Dons helmet'
Good idea. Gives a real advantage to those higher and reduces number of games.
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Will it still be possible for some teams who don't make it into the last 16 of the Champions League to move into the Europa Cup, or has that been done away with now?
No. This season there is no parachute at any stage.
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
You took a chance there mate, starting the thread at 9.56 when there were still 3 minutes of added time left. Didn't you fear that the extra-ordinary, sensational goal machine that Ange has assembled will rip through mancity and score 3 goals?
By the way the Ange's team has scored only one more goal than Conte's.
I am one hour ahead in France, the game had long finished. ;-)
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Is it 8 teams, 2 from each pot?
So how do they decide Home and Away?
Is the same country rule still there?
Yes
The draw will presumably incorporate the home/away split across all the pots, could end up being a bit complicated but the outcome is straightforward enough.
You can't play teams from your own association in the league stage.
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Be nice to draw Real and Milan in a way. 2 biggest clubs we've never played.
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(https://i.ibb.co/173SSHV/IMG-0377.png) (https://ibb.co/173SSHV)
Haha, we have a sofa bed and air mattress in our apartment. If we make it to the final, party at mine, I'm sure my wife won't mind ...
I have a plan for pitching up in the Englischer Garten and using the Eisbach for <cough cough> amenities.
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Apparently we might play one match against another English team to avoid deadlocking. Also, the draw is conducted by computer because it would take too long to do manually.
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I think we will get out the group stage. Should take about 10-12 points at the most I'd have thought - so a couple of home wins and an away win against some of the pot 3/4 clubs, mixed in with a few draws.
I think there's definitely more of a chance than the randomness of a four team table.
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Is it 8 teams, 2 from each pot?
So how do they decide Home and Away?
Is the same country rule still there?
Yes
The draw will presumably incorporate the home/away split across all the pots, could end up being a bit complicated but the outcome is straightforward enough.
You can't play teams from your own association in the league stage.
Cheers.
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Is it 8 teams, 2 from each pot?
So how do they decide Home and Away?
Is the same country rule still there?
Yes
The draw will presumably incorporate the home/away split across all the pots, could end up being a bit complicated but the outcome is straightforward enough.
You can't play teams from your own association in the league stage.
Cheers.
I believe you have one home and one away from each pot.
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Will it still be possible for some teams who don't make it into the last 16 of the Champions League to move into the Europa Cup, or has that been done away with now?
Teams that lose in the qualifying rounds drop down to the Europa League / Conference League.
Once the proper league phase of the Champions League starts, that's all you get. No second chances after that
Winners of play-off round advance to league phase
Losers of play-off round enter Europa League league phase
Losers of third qualifying round enter Europa League play-off round
Losers of second qualifying round enter Europa League third qualifying round
Losers of the first qualifying round enter Conference League second qualifying round
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round
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I really hope we get Barcelona, Borussia Dortmund Celtic and Monaco please.
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I would tweak one thing looking at the format - the 9th to 24th should be a one off game.
Those finishing 9th - 16th having home advantage.
'Dons helmet'
Fuck me, I use to take your posts seriously. You get let down in life everyday, mostly from those you trust :'(
See, your murderers come with smiles, they come as your friends, the people who’ve cared for you all of your life. And they always seem to come at a time that you’re most in need of their help.
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
Just love that.
We have a dream.
Lovely film, thanks for posting it in here, andyh.
What a class act Unai Emery is.
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Hopefully we can finish in the top 36.
Dolly O'Dreary be like "We can't expect to be in the top turty-six wit de Boltons and Charltins of dis world".
very good
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Erm, we are in the Champions League. I woke up and put the theme music on first thing and my lad came charging down, 'we did it? We did it!'
Bragging rights at school.
Great to see,walk tall
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I really hope we get Barcelona, Borussia Dortmund Celtic and Monaco please.
Barcelona I get, but the others?
Monaco is an awful place and Celtic would be lots of trouble.
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Going from 17th to 4th is a huge achievement.
As is going from the Championship to the Champions League within five years.
Especially with all of the limits & barriers put in place by the status quo & their self interests.
But today, isn't about the issues. It's about the achievement.
I am so proud of them all. And so happy.
Its not a trophy or a title, but its a sign of progression that I though would come with Lerner.
So to go through that decade in the darkness & come out where we are, I think it makes this achievement all the more special.
Congratulations to the owners. Congratulations to the manager. Congratulations to the players. Congratulations to tbe fans. Congratulations to the groundspeople. Congratulations to the backroom staff. Congratulations to the mascot. Congratulations to everybody.
And happy mother-fucking days... 😁
Big congratulations and thanks to the owners who let Emery get on with it
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Aston Villa in the Champions League. Going to take a while longer for this to sink in.
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
That's brilliant. Who's the presenter? Looks like Purslow in a dress!
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Just listening to Ben Zephaniah and David Bradley and there words some up my love for Aston Villa VTID
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
You took a chance there mate, starting the thread at 9.56 when there were still 3 minutes of added time left. Didn't you fear that the extra-ordinary, sensational goal machine that Ange has assembled will rip through mancity and score 3 goals?
By the way the Ange's team has scored only one more goal than Conte's.
I am one hour ahead in France, the game had long finished. ;-)
I must apologies for my lack of education. Can I call upon you in future before I place bets?
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
Excellent. Thanks a lot for posting. Yeah a little dust in the eyes..
Up the Villa.
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https://youtu.be/MhMuAFXMuo8?si=ZnXUaLf16NrixcMc
From the award last night.
It will make you smile, and laugh and maybe get some dust in your eye.
That's brilliant. Who's the presenter? Looks like Purslow in a dress!
The presenter is Katharine Merry, Olympic medalist and the fastest woman in the world over 400m in 2001, who is a Villa fan, is clearly a warm and confident MC, looks lovely in her dress and does not remotely resemble Mr Purslow!
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Yes, how crude olaf. Kath was a great host (as was Jase from the BBC, we must pay well - though I expect him to give us more discussion time on "Final Score" on Saturday afternoons going forward).
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All my kids seeing Villa in Champions League/European cup for the first time
Unai manager of the season
Best owners in the league
Blues relegated
Mansfield promoted (personal thing)
My lads team won the league cup last Friday
Seeing Stevie Nicks in the summer at Hyde Park
What a time to be alive
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Remember when we wanted English teams to do well in Europe this season to help with the coefficient for the team finishing 5th? Strange days.
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This appears to be correct!
(https://i.ibb.co/YcWhqBC/Mini-League.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YcWhqBC)
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https://x.com/eldesmarque/status/1790706384889070061 (https://x.com/eldesmarque/status/1790706384889070061)
Translation:
It's not Sánchez-Pizjuán, it's Birmingham. John McGinn starred in an epic moment in Aston Villa's historic celebration of getting their ticket to the next Champions League. The captain of the villains, with beer in hand, started singing... the anthem of the Centenary of Seville! The reason goes beyond the relationship that now unites the English team with the Seville team after the arrival of Monchi, Unai Emery and Diego Carlos at Villa Park. McGinn's grandfather was president of the Scottish FA when Juande Ramos's Sevilla won their second Europa League in Glasgow. That night in May 2007, the protagonist of this story fell madly in love with the anthem during the final against Espanyol. Such was his impression that he continued watching videos and ended up learning, in his own way, the lyrics of El Arrebato.
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This appears to be correct!
(https://i.ibb.co/YcWhqBC/Mini-League.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YcWhqBC)
We clearly need to push for a play off system for the title.
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https://x.com/eldesmarque/status/1790706384889070061 (https://x.com/eldesmarque/status/1790706384889070061)
Translation:
It's not Sánchez-Pizjuán, it's Birmingham. John McGinn starred in an epic moment in Aston Villa's historic celebration of getting their ticket to the next Champions League. The captain of the villains, with beer in hand, started singing... the anthem of the Centenary of Seville! The reason goes beyond the relationship that now unites the English team with the Seville team after the arrival of Monchi, Unai Emery and Diego Carlos at Villa Park. McGinn's grandfather was president of the Scottish FA when Juande Ramos's Sevilla won their second Europa League in Glasgow. That night in May 2007, the protagonist of this story fell madly in love with the anthem during the final against Espanyol. Such was his impression that he continued watching videos and ended up learning, in his own way, the lyrics of El Arrebato.
That's ace, thanks for posting it.
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Wouldn't take much to change the words to "The Villa, the Villa, the Villa", not sure about the rest of it though.
Interesting that Emery insisted on all his players learning this song, maybe we can ask that they learn the words to My Old Man
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/022d-0e9458d73601-1a480f9da4cc-1000--himno-centenario-sevilla-s-song-for-all-seasons/
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Cracking old-school font too.
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Wouldn't take much to change the words to "The Villa, the Villa, the Villa", not sure about the rest of it though.
Interesting that Emery insisted on all his players learning this song, maybe we can ask that they learn the words to My Old Man
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/022d-0e9458d73601-1a480f9da4cc-1000--himno-centenario-sevilla-s-song-for-all-seasons/
Probably more chance of getting Betis fans to sing 'Shit on Sevilla...'
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Thought I'd take a look at how we measured up against the other clubs who were in contention for the Champions League - to see how far behind we are. Presumed that we'd have a lot of catching up to do.
The mini league below is based on this season’s head to head games.
Premier League Top 5 Mini - league
P W D L F A GD PTS
Villa 8 4 1 3 10 15 -5 13
Arsenal 8 3 2 3 10 9 +1 11
City 8 2 4 2 11 8 +3 10
Pool 8 2 4 2 15 13 +2 10
Spurs 8 2 3 4 16 17 -1 9
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
Girona sounds lovely, hope you get your wish.
Also pleased for our Canadian fans. Haven't heard from them since it was confirmed, so can only assume they're still celebrating. The streets of Vancouver would have been buzzing last night.
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That's brilliant. Who's the presenter? Looks like Purslow in a dress!
The presenter is Katharine Merry, Olympic medalist and the fastest woman in the world over 400m in 2001, who is a Villa fan, is clearly a warm and confident MC, looks lovely in her dress and does not remotely resemble Mr Purslow!
Yes, how crude olaf. Kath was a great host (as was Jase from the BBC, we must pay well - though I expect him to give us more discussion time on "Final Score" on Saturday afternoons going forward).
Thank you, Louise.
Apologies both and the forum for the crass remark I was just being silly due to my ignorance.
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We're in. Girona first for me please!
Girona sounds lovely, hope you get your wish.
Also pleased for our Canadian fans. Haven't heard from them since it was confirmed, so can only assume they're still celebrating. The streets of Vancouver would have been buzzing last night.
BCVillain must have had quite a night.
Girona is a lovely place, and only 50 minutes drive for me. If we get Barcelona that'll be fine too, plus there is more chance of getting a ticket.
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All my kids seeing Villa in Champions League/European cup for the first time
Unai manager of the season
Best owners in the league
Blues relegated
Mansfield promoted (personal thing)
My lads team won the league cup last Friday
Seeing Stevie Nicks in the summer at Hyde Park
What a time to be alive
Brilliant. Enjoy it mate. Same for me too regarding my lads seeing the Villa in Europe.
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What are the odds on us to win it or is it too early?
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After the success of Champions League Contention thread I think I'll be doing a title contention thread next season but it would only be done if deemed appropriate when in 1st place like the champions league contender thread made in November when all the signs were there.
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What are the odds on us to win it or is it too early?
They will do that straight after this year’s final but I think we will be in bar group.
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So we made it. Top 4 for the first time since 1995-96 and undoubtedly our best season since then and arguably a more significant one than 95-96 in some ways because it resulted in champions league qualification.
We came close in 03-04 and the MON years. I think it would have been easier to make it to the champions league in 03-04 or the MON years so this achievement really is something else. Back then there was probably a big 3 or big 4 whereas now there was a genuine big 6 to break through.
I am so proud of the team, coaches and manager. It is a season that will long live in the history of Aston Villa and made all the sweater for the heart ache we had to endure for much of the post MON years.
UTFV
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Girona is a lovely place, and only 50 minutes drive for me. If we get Barcelona that'll be fine too, plus there is more chance of getting a ticket.
So it’s down to the El Celler de Can Roca for dinner every Friday night for you?
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That's brilliant. Who's the presenter? Looks like Purslow in a dress!
The presenter is Katharine Merry, Olympic medalist and the fastest woman in the world over 400m in 2001, who is a Villa fan, is clearly a warm and confident MC, looks lovely in her dress and does not remotely resemble Mr Purslow!
Yes, how crude olaf. Kath was a great host (as was Jase from the BBC, we must pay well - though I expect him to give us more discussion time on "Final Score" on Saturday afternoons going forward).
Thank you, Louise.
Apologies both and the forum for the crass remark I was just being silly due to my ignorance.
No probs, Olaftab, I think we’re all a bit giddy from attaining the rarefied atmosphere of the Champions League!
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Girona is a lovely place, and only 50 minutes drive for me. If we get Barcelona that'll be fine too, plus there is more chance of getting a ticket.
So it’s down to the El Celler de Can Roca for dinner every Friday night for you?
Oh every week ;-)
But if 3* Michelin is a bit too fancy they have a normal restaurant in Girona called 'Normal' https://restaurantnormal.com/en/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNoRIpaXoAAu3og?format=jpg&name=small)
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Hope we get aek athens
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So obviously Unai and the current squad are the deserved stars right now but I know I'm not the only one who thought it apt to pay tribute to Dean Smith for starting the journey we've been on. Here are some others:
James Chester
Conor Hourihane
Ahmed Elmohamady
Glenn Whelan (never forget the pen)
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi
Trezeguet (the back post Messi)
Bert Traore
Matt Targett
I might have missed others. I know one Judas who I missed deliberately. What a ride it's been.
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So obviously Unai and the current squad are the deserved stars right now but I know I'm not the only one who thought it apt to pay tribute to Dean Smith for starting the journey we've been on. Here are some others:
James Chester
Conor Hourihane
Ahmed Elmohamady
Glenn Whelan (never forget the pen)
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi
Trezeguet (the back post Messi)
Bert Traore
Matt Targett
I might have missed others. I know one Judas who I missed deliberately. What a ride it's been.
Add Steve Bruce .
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Hope we get aek athens
My mates on Kos (most are massive AEK fans) would love that.
They absolutely despise your Olympiakos though, fella. 'Kologavri' was mentioned a lot when discussing the semi final.... 😂
I don't know how offensive that is, mind. One said it translates as 'smelly anchovy'???
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So obviously Unai and the current squad are the deserved stars right now but I know I'm not the only one who thought it apt to pay tribute to Dean Smith for starting the journey we've been on. Here are some others:
James Chester
Conor Hourihane
Ahmed Elmohamady
Glenn Whelan (never forget the pen)
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi
Trezeguet (the back post Messi)
Bert Traore
Matt Targett
I might have missed others. I know one Judas who I missed deliberately. What a ride it's been.
Add Steve Bruce .
From a cabbage to a king.
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Jed Steer
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Hause, Hutton, Grabban, Jedi, Kodj, Uncle Albert, Taylor, Tuanzabe, Barney, are others that played their part in us going from a side on a run of 4 wins in 52 league games to the Champions League.
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I'm not sure where to share these thoughts and will probably regret it.
We've written a famous chapter in the history of our famous club. I was convinced that my fondest football related memories would be left in my childhood in the early 90s.
This has been special because the last few years since I have started going back to Villa Park, albeit it not every week, has allowed me to spend time with my Dad and Brother - and they will be memories I'll treasure as well as seeing some brilliant football.
I have been touched seeing all the supporters on social media with tributes to absent loved ones today - knowing how much this would have meant to them. Seeing the man who nearly died at the Semi- Final, and the women who saved him both back at the Liverpool game.
One of the things I have really struggled with about football over the past 10 years or so is so many footballers seem hugely unlikeable. So its been great seeing this bunch of very talented players achieve so much despite often been having to take the less conventional routes. And above all being seemingly decent people with a lot of affection for each other.
What Unai has achieved is he has made each and everyone of them believe in themselves and each other, and I think most of them have gone further than they ever believed possible and it has been a privilege to see it.
I've even enjoyed wasting time on here, spending time with you lot.
Hopefully this warm glow lasts for the summer, with a brief interlude to be outraged that Southgate didnt pick Ty in his squad even though his not fit.
I guess - in short - Football is more than a game, and Aston Villa is more than a football club. UTV
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All my kids seeing Villa in Champions League/European cup for the first time
Unai manager of the season
Best owners in the league
Blues relegated
Mansfield promoted (personal thing)
My lads team won the league cup last Friday
Seeing Stevie Nicks in the summer at Hyde Park
What a time to be alive
John, you shouldn't have waited until you were 80 to have kids.😉
I've tonnes of respect for those fans who have followed us through shit and smellier shit who now think this is the best time of their lives. Let's hope we never let standards drop so low again.
We're Aston Villa..we should be demanding.
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So obviously Unai and the current squad are the deserved stars right now but I know I'm not the only one who thought it apt to pay tribute to Dean Smith for starting the journey we've been on. Here are some others:
James Chester
Conor Hourihane
Ahmed Elmohamady
Glenn Whelan (never forget the pen)
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi
Trezeguet (the back post Messi)
Bert Traore
Matt Targett
I might have missed others. I know one Judas who I missed deliberately. What a ride it's been.
Add Steve Bruce .
From a cabbage to a king.
I think all the players that played a part in keeping us up - its easy to forget that by rights we should have gone back down. Nyland - for the most important save in Villa's history. Wesley (who probably wasnt good enough but never really had a chance). From the championship team Uncle Albert, Neil Taylor - Jed Steer and Miles for the stares.
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I'm not sure where to share these thoughts and will probably regret it......
Very well said (all of it, not just the quoted bit, to be clear!) We're obviously bias, and I'm sure there's other teams with great team spirit, but it really feels like something special happening with us at the moment.
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I'm not sure where to share these thoughts and will probably regret it......
Very well said (all of it, not just the quoted bit, to be clear!) We're obviously bias, and I'm sure there's other teams with great team spirit, but it really feels like something special happening with us at the moment.
Ha - thanks. I agree, you achieve things with either brilliant players, or players being brilliant. We've seen the second and its always sweeter.
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So obviously Unai and the current squad are the deserved stars right now but I know I'm not the only one who thought it apt to pay tribute to Dean Smith for starting the journey we've been on. Here are some others:
James Chester
Conor Hourihane
Ahmed Elmohamady
Glenn Whelan (never forget the pen)
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi
Trezeguet (the back post Messi)
Bert Traore
Matt Targett
I might have missed others. I know one Judas who I missed deliberately. What a ride it's been.
Add Steve Bruce .
From a cabbage to a king.
Kodjia played a massive part too.
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My daughter phoned this evening and asked what I’ve been doing. I said “I’ve been sitting here staring at the table since I got home”, to which she replied “your tea won’t cook itself”… “No love, not that table!”
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It's a cracker!
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Even if they do leave (and I don't think any of them will), pretty much every one of their contracts will probably have a "qualifying for the Champions League" bonus in it.
And they're celebrating their professional achivement. Chambers looked to be having a lovely old time as well, and there's no chance he's going to be playing any Champions League football for us.
Yeah, I think qualifying for the Champions League puts a slightly different focus on it personally. We can realistically keep Moreno + Digne now, they're a strong pair of left backs to have and Digne's wages will be less problematic with CL cash flowing around. Likewise Cash, I could see us adding another RB but keeping him on, at least for next season.
Carlos is maybe the odd one there as it sounds like Milan were/are quite keen on offering us a load of cash for him, and he doesn't seem to overly fit with the way Emery sets the team up. Again, I don't think it's necessarily critical that we flog him but I could see us selling Carlos and bringing in another central defender. That'd give a back 4 of something like:
Cash / ? - Konsa / ? - Mings / Torres - Moreno / Digne
Which'd look pretty tasty to me, capable of being strong on two fronts simultaneously.
I can’t help thinking we have seen the last of Mings. At least as a regular. Just don’t feel he will get back to the player he was.
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Interesting seeing players like Digne, Cash, and Carlos celebrating last night. They're players a lot assume will leave, or should leave in the summer. They may not even get to play CL for us. You'd think at this point in the season they'd have been made aware of Uni's plans for them. Maybe they're all staying?
Even if they do leave (and I don't think any of them will), pretty much every one of their contracts will probably have a "qualifying for the Champions League" bonus in it.
And they're celebrating their professional achivement. Chambers looked to be having a lovely old time as well, and there's no chance he's going to be playing any Champions League football for us.
Yeah, I think qualifying for the Champions League puts a slightly different focus on it personally. We can realistically keep Moreno + Digne now, they're a strong pair of left backs to have and Digne's wages will be less problematic with CL cash flowing around. Likewise Cash, I could see us adding another RB but keeping him on, at least for next season.
Carlos is maybe the odd one there as it sounds like Milan were/are quite keen on offering us a load of cash for him, and he doesn't seem to overly fit with the way Emery sets the team up. Again, I don't think it's necessarily critical that we flog him but I could see us selling Carlos and bringing in another central defender. That'd give a back 4 of something like:
Cash / ? - Konsa / ? - Mings / Torres - Moreno / Digne
Which'd look pretty tasty to me, capable of being strong on two fronts simultaneously.
I can’t help thinking we have seen the last of Mings. At least as a regular. Just don’t feel he will get back to the player he was.
You may be right but I do hope not. What a man he is though. Always articulate and incisive even reminding McGinn, but tactfully, that Hause was one of the members of the Championship squad still at the club. He's not a bad footballer either and has always been a natural leader I would love to see him staying with as I think he could still add to the squad but if he isn't getting a regular game time is running out. I wish the best whatever happens.
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I wonder if Ty is considering coaching, that may explain the coyness about a return date?
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Hope we get aek athens
My mates on Kos (most are massive AEK fans) would love that.
They absolutely despise your Olympiakos though, fella. 'Kologavri' was mentioned a lot when discussing the semi final.... 😂
I don't know how offensive that is, mind. One said it translates as 'smelly anchovy'???
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep big rivarly with the clubs but be good to play another greek team
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I wonder if Ty is considering coaching, that may explain the coyness about a return date?
If Craig ‘I love the Villa, I mean I’ve always loved Blues’ fucking Gardner can be Director of Football (admittedly at a League One club) then there has to be a role for Tyrone Mings t our club.
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Teach Torres how to attack headers maybe.
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Dirty Leeds Scum supporter in my office this morning alluding to the fact that it’ll be the first time Villa have played in Europe for 40 years. No, it’ll be the first time we’ve played in Europe since last Thursday, mate.
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Dirty Leeds Scum supporter in my office this morning alluding to the fact that it’ll be the first time Villa have played in Europe for 40 years. No, it’ll be the first time we’ve played in Europe since last Thursday, mate.
They ain't the brightest fans on the planet eh.
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Perfect group for me would be:
Pot 1:
Real Madrid (H)
Dortmund (A)
Pot 2:
Juve (H)
Benfica (A)
Pot 3:
Feyenoord (A)
Celtic (H)
Pot 4:
Monaco (A)
Stuttgart (H)
Come Autumn we'll be running at full steam again and we'll give most of that lot a shoeing.
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Dirty Leeds Scum supporter in my office this morning alluding to the fact that it’ll be the first time Villa have played in Europe for 40 years. No, it’ll be the first time we’ve played in Europe since last Thursday, mate.
They ain't the brightest fans on the planet eh.
If you watch Emmerdale, you can understand why
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Perfect group for me would be:
Pot 1:
Real Madrid (H)
Dortmund (A)
Pot 2:
Juve (H)
Benfica (A)
Pot 3:
Feyenoord (A)
Celtic (H)
Pot 4:
Monaco (A)
Stuttgart (H)
Come Autumn we'll be running at full steam again and we'll give most of that lot a shoeing.
Not bad! I assume some of the Pot 4 teams are undecided yet due to qualifying rounds?
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Come Autumn we'll be running at full steam again and we'll give most of that lot a shoeing.
Don't set us up for a Fall.
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Perfect group for me would be:
Pot 1:
Real Madrid (H)
Dortmund (A)
Pot 2:
Juve (H)
Benfica (A)
Pot 3:
Feyenoord (A)
Celtic (H)
Pot 4:
Monaco (A)
Stuttgart (H)
Come Autumn we'll be running at full steam again and we'll give most of that lot a shoeing.
Not bad! I assume some of the Pot 4 teams are undecided yet due to qualifying rounds?
I expect so, that was just based on that provisional list a few pages back. Would be nice to get Lille again for a laugh though if they get through.
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An added bonus to qualifying is that our U19s get to play in the UEFA Youth League, where the first six rounds of fixtures will be against the clubs we play in the Champions League.
It’ll be a great experience for the kids and an attraction when poaching/signing young players.
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An added bonus to qualifying is that our U19s get to play in the UEFA Youth League, where the first six rounds of fixtures will be against the clubs we play in the Champions League. It’ll be a great experience for the kids and an attraction when poaching/signing young players.
That's a good point.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
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Dirty Leeds Scum supporter in my office this morning alluding to the fact that it’ll be the first time Villa have played in Europe for 40 years. No, it’ll be the first time we’ve played in Europe since last Thursday, mate.
They ain't the brightest fans on the planet eh.
If you watch Emmerdale, you can understand why
officially the shittest television programme in TV history. - ever - x 10.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
If you know and pay the right people, they can make it work.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
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An added bonus to qualifying is that our U19s get to play in the UEFA Youth League, where the first six rounds of fixtures will be against the clubs we play in the Champions League.
It’ll be a great experience for the kids and an attraction when poaching/signing young players.
Wasn't that the competition UEFA brought in for CL teams only just after we tore them all to shreds in that NextGen thing about 10 years ago?
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I really like this format. The fact that unlike before you end up giving a toss about all of it, not just the three other teams that you're sharing a bunker with.
So that game between Monaco and Inter or Benfica and Bologna, although we might not play against any of them they actually make a difference to us now rather than them just being a dead rubber in a completely different group.
Yes it's to create more games and make more money, but I think it'll also increase overall interest in the games.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
If you know and pay the right people, they can make it work.
I don’t think 4 needs to go into 9 exactly.
Each team plays 2 opponents from each pot, and in principle you can’t play teams from your own country until the knockout stage, although I don’t think it can be completely discounted where a country has 4 or more teams. The teams we play won’t necessarily play the same other teams we play.
Finish 1st to 8th and you get a bye to the last 16. Finish 9th to 24th and you go to a play off with the winners progressing to the last 16. Finish below 24th in the league table and you’re out and there is no dropping into the Europa League.
The draw for the league stage is on August 29th. Apparently the draw will be computerised as it would take far too long to do it manually.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I really like this format. The fact that unlike before you end up giving a toss about all of it, not just the three other teams that you're sharing a bunker with.
So that game between Monaco and Inter or Benfica and Bologna, although we might not play against any of them they actually make a difference to us now rather than them just being a dead rubber in a completely different group.
Yes it's to create more games and make more money, but I think it'll also increase overall interest in the games.
Strong agree. Also the potential to move up a gazillion places if you get a good result is great.
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I really like this format. The fact that unlike before you end up giving a toss about all of it, not just the three other teams that you're sharing a bunker with.
So that game between Monaco and Inter or Benfica and Bologna, although we might not play against any of them they actually make a difference to us now rather than them just being a dead rubber in a completely different group.
Yes it's to create more games and make more money, but I think it'll also increase overall interest in the games.
Yep, looks like a good idea on the face of it. Obviously I'm just over the moon to be in any sort of format whatseoever, but you can see how this should lead to most games being meaningful. I'm probably missing some devious UEFA plan to rob us completely, so as ever, reserve the right to do a complete 180 at some point in the future.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I know this. But drawing from 4 pots to 4 groups seems there would be some groups with more from the same pot.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I know this. But drawing from 4 pots to 4 groups seems there would be some groups with more from the same pot.
There aren’t 4 groups. There’s one big group.
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I really like this format. The fact that unlike before you end up giving a toss about all of it, not just the three other teams that you're sharing a bunker with.
So that game between Monaco and Inter or Benfica and Bologna, although we might not play against any of them they actually make a difference to us now rather than them just being a dead rubber in a completely different group.
Yes it's to create more games and make more money, but I think it'll also increase overall interest in the games.
Yep, looks like a good idea on the face of it. Obviously I'm just over the moon to be in any sort of format whatseoever, but you can see how this should lead to most games being meaningful. I'm probably missing some devious UEFA plan to rob us completely, so as ever, reserve the right to do a complete 180 at some point in the future.
Of course, that's inevitable.
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I know this. But drawing from 4 pots to 4 groups seems there would be some groups with more from the same pot.
There aren’t 4 groups. There’s one big group.
I thought there was 4 seeded pots of 9 teams.
Which would mean 3 groups would have 2 from a pot = 6. And then one group would have 3 from the pot to make 9.
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There are no groups!
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I know this. But drawing from 4 pots to 4 groups seems there would be some groups with more from the same pot.
There aren’t 4 groups. There’s one big group.
I thought there was 4 seeded pots of 9 teams.
Which would mean 3 groups would have 2 from a pot = 6. And then one group would have 3 from the pot to make 9.
It wouldn't. Because there aren't three groups to have two to a pot. Or another group to have three. There's one big group. With all the teams in it.
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Tony can't leave his swinging past behind.
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I wonder if they have considered that a lot of teams could have the same points and goal differences at the end of the "league" stage, but haven't played each other so no h2h to sort them. I wonder what the process will be then?
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I wonder if they have considered that a lot of teams could have the same points and goal differences at the end of the "league" stage, but haven't played each other so no h2h to sort them. I wonder what the process will be then?
Play-off, winner takes all.
Two legs, Riyadh and Miami. €1,200 per ticket, payable directly to Čeferin's pension fund.
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I wonder if they have considered that a lot of teams could have the same points and goal differences at the end of the "league" stage, but haven't played each other so no h2h to sort them. I wonder what the process will be then?
Play-off, winner takes all.
Two legs, Riyadh and Miami. €1,200 per ticket, payable directly to Čeferin's pension fund.
Either that or; rock, paper, scissors.
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https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
Explained perfectly in this video
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Man that’s one huge group.
It’s going to nuts keeping up with that table.
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An added bonus to qualifying is that our U19s get to play in the UEFA Youth League, where the first six rounds of fixtures will be against the clubs we play in the Champions League. It’ll be a great experience for the kids and an attraction when poaching/signing young players.
That's a good point.
That will be some fantastic experience for them. TNT show some of those games too...
We won the last euro thing we entered at that level, before FIFA realised there was a bit of money to he made & shut it down for their own...
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
More importantly, smashing the shit out of Gerrard enough to get the carpet headed fuck-nugget sacked...
I will be forever grateful for that.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
More importantly, smashing the shit out of Gerrard enough to get the carpet headed fuck-nugget sacked...
I will be forever grateful for that.
Even more importantly, beating us in the play off final.
A real sliding doors moment.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you
More than we could bloody do.
Thanks for the good wishes.
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When you consider the playoffs and also Carpethead, Fulham should be every villa fan’s second favourite team.
Great ground too.
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When you think about it, the new structure helps us. Not only are there more guaranteed matches, which is clearly lucrative, but also we are playing teams from each pot. In the old days we’d have been in the lowest pot so played teams from pots 1-3 only.
The plan (realistically) has to be to aspire to get in the play off round.
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When you consider the playoffs and also Carpethead, Fulham should be every villa fan’s second favourite team.
Great ground too.
I'm going to get their shit badge (sorry LF) tattooed on me along with ours.
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When you think about it, the new structure helps us. Not only are there more guaranteed matches, which is clearly lucrative, but also we are playing teams from each pot. In the old days we’d have been in the lowest pot so played teams from pots 1-3 only.
The plan (realistically) has to be to aspire to get in the play off round.
I think the expectation levels will help us to. We were clearly seen as a massive deal in the Conference League and the pressure was obviously getting to us a lot of the time.
Being the plucky underdogs suits us much better.
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When you think about it, the new structure helps us. Not only are there more guaranteed matches, which is clearly lucrative, but also we are playing teams from each pot. In the old days we’d have been in the lowest pot so played teams from pots 1-3 only.
The plan (realistically) has to be to aspire to get in the play off round.
I agree but I would guess Emery would plan a realistic goal more like us getting a quarterfinal. How exiting and fun this will be, even just 18 months ago this scenario was just in wildest dreamland.
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Please lose leeds
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Please lose leeds
Not sure they need to worry about Champions League for a little while yet.
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Please lose leeds
Not sure they need to worry about Champions League for a little while yet.
Some teams manage it in five years you know
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Please lose leeds
Not sure they need to worry about Champions League for a little while yet.
I was reading if thwy dont go up they need 100m or they are in deep shit
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Please lose leeds
Not sure they need to worry about Champions League for a little while yet.
I was reading if thwy dont go up they need 100m or they are in deep shit
I think Dave was hinting that this is the Champions league thread, I think you want Other Games next door.
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I'm trying to work out how many wins/points we would need to get to top 8...4 or 5 maybe?
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How does the draw work?
4 into 9 doesn’t work.
36 teams. Everybody plays 8 games, four home and four away, against 8 different teams.
I really like this format. The fact that unlike before you end up giving a toss about all of it, not just the three other teams that you're sharing a bunker with.
So that game between Monaco and Inter or Benfica and Bologna, although we might not play against any of them they actually make a difference to us now rather than them just being a dead rubber in a completely different group.
Yes it's to create more games and make more money, but I think it'll also increase overall interest in the games.
Oh no, are we going to have to be rooting for random European teams alongside the other Premier League teams on a weekly basis now too!? I don't think I can handle the stress.
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I'm trying to work out how many wins/points we would need to get to top 8...4 or 5 maybe?
Fag packet maths.
Last season first place points.
16, 13, 18, 12, 14, 11, 18, 12=average of 14.
Second place points.
8, 9, 10, 12, 10, 8, 12, 12 = average of 10.
Add 3 to each to take into account the two extra games and it might give an idea for what gets you in the top 8 and then in the home second leg for the playoffs.
Of course this doesn't take into account that the top teams will also be playing top teams straight away so teams like Real or Citeh might not win all their games like they did this season.
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Wouldn’t surprise me if you needed 18-20 points to finish top 8. Probably need 8-10 points minimum for top 24.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
More importantly, smashing the shit out of Gerrard enough to get the carpet headed fuck-nugget sacked...
I will be forever grateful for that.
Even more importantly, beating us in the play off final.
A real sliding doors moment.
Oh lordy, Fulham really have been our fairy godmother over the past few years!
Hope you’re keeping well, Franky. Lovely to see you post here, as always chap :)
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Cheers Franky.
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Please lose leeds
Not sure they need to worry about Champions League for a little while yet.
I was reading if thwy dont go up they need 100m or they are in deep shit
I think Dave was hinting that this is the Champions league thread, I think you want Other Games next door.
Just realised i posted in wrong thread
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Happens.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Cheers mate! Always liked Fulham!
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It's stupid how elated I still am, but I realised why at least: much as I want us to win the quadruple every year, the great thing about qualifying for the CL is it shows you can do it, and it takes the pressure off a bit. I'm sure Newcastle are worrying a lot less about their status as a club right now than they were two years ago, and Spurs actively didn't care about qualifying because they know that, once you're in once, people (including players and coaches) look at you as a club that can do it.
Obviously, finishing 7th next year would feel like a let down after this. But I just don't think it would feel like the same sort of let down. Our foot is in the door now, and it'll take some time to dislodge it you feel.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Thanks Franky, much appreciated. Good luck to Fulham next year.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Thanks Franky, much appreciated. Good luck to Fulham next year.
Thank you Franky. We are also grateful for you beating us at Wembley and saving us from administration.That night when you beat us 3-0 and Gerrard was sacked was our turning point. Good luck for the future -until we play you!
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Cheers Franky.
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Frankly, when will you have that new stand fully open? I mean, if you're not going to use it, flog it to Newton Heath!
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No joke, when Fulham beat Spurs I realised we could actually do it. A hugely well-timed result for us that. So cheers Franky!
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Not sure we're going to win on Sunday ...
https://x.com/KeslerSZN/status/1791212909848109159
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BBC.
Former boss Dean Smith believes Aston Villa are beginning a new era after reaching the Champions League.
The Charlotte FC head coach expects Unai Emery's side to consistently challenge for the top four now they have broken through.
Villa will play in the Champions League for the first time since it was rebranded from the European Cup after sealing fourth position in the Premier League earlier this week.
They most recently played in Europe's top club competition in 1982-83, having lifted the trophy in 1982, and Smith expects this to be a new dawn of challenging at the top.
"I believe it will because of the owners' (Wes Edens and Nassef Sawiris) passion and drive to become one of those teams who can be a top-six team every year," said Smith, who was in charge of Villa between 2018 and 2021 and led the club to promotion from the Championship in 2019.
"I remember when I first went for talks with Suso, Christian Purslow and the owners and there was a five-year plan to get into the Champions League. This is the fifth year and their plan has come to fruition.
"The owners had a vision, had to spend for what they wanted to do and going from the Championship to the Champions League in five years is an incredible achievement.
"I believed it was achievable. I said when we were promoted the next step was to stay up, and once we did, we spent our money really well, we brought in Ollie Watkins, Matty Cash, Bertrand Traore and Ross Barkley on loan.
"I always felt after finishing 17th in that first year [back in the Premier League], climbing six or seven places would be really achievable, which is what we did [finishing 11th in 2020-21]. The next step of climbing two or three places was going to be hard because you were trying to pass established clubs.
"You were always going to have to overtake one of them to get to that elite level. Unai has done unbelievably well."
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Fulham beating Spurs...wasn't that the week after they had beaten us? Great win that was, disappointing that the 4th goal was ruled out.
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Fulham we love you. You have done so much for us
Thank you 😘
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Not sure we're going to win on Sunday ...
https://x.com/KeslerSZN/status/1791212909848109159
I'd assume that's from a few days ago, or Uni is going to do what some people want and play a load of kids and backup players. Perhaps McGinn already knows he's not playing.
Or he's just on the lash.
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That’s from Thursday night.
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Im delighted to be playing CL but whats does everyone make of the new CL format? Seems abit messy to me - a wastered down super league
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Im delighted to be playing CL but whats does everyone make of the new CL format? Seems abit messy to me - a wastered down super league
Better than the group set up. Less dead rubbers and an interest in other games involving teams around us . From a Villa perspective the
Guarantee of 8 CL games and not a group of death scenario is to our benefit.
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Better than the group set up. Less dead rubbers and an interest in other games involving teams around us . From a Villa perspective the
Guarantee of 8 CL games and not a group of death scenario is to our benefit.
Agree. The downside is that there’s less chance of a shock exit by a big team due to a bad result in a group stage (the powers that be probably consider this a plus, I guess) … more likely that the top places consistently go to the biggest spenders.
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I think the new format favours lower seeds given you still play two from every pot. The schedule is pretty relentless though. Longest break is between mid December and end of Jan.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Thank you LF. Fulham are integral in our revival:
The Play-offs defeat
The 3-0 and end of Gerrard
Nice 6 points this season (normally we never win at CC)
Beating Spurs
And just being a nice decent club and for me best away experience.
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Congratulations to you from this Fulham supporter, hope you remember our contribution to you getting there, beating Man Utd and Spurs so they couldn’t catch you, only joking you’re done brilliantly under Emery, I think you’re do really well in Europe, maybe not win it definitely quarter final at least. Emery has a good record in European tournaments it also good to see a new club in the champions league, instead of the same old teams
Cheers. Fulham are alright. Not pretentious like most of the London clubs.
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From next season, 36 clubs will take part in the Champions League and they will all be in one big league table. The old (current) format saw 32 clubs divided into eight groups of four teams.
There will still be a draw (of sorts) at start of the season, but only to create the league-phase fixtures: eight games for each club, four at home and four away.
The 36 teams will be divided into four pots of nine. Pot 1 will have the titleholders of the UCL and the eight clubs with the best coefficients. That means the champions of the top domestic leagues and the UEL titleholders will no longer be prioritised for Pot 1. Pots 2 to 4 are ordered on club coefficient.
Each club will be drawn to play two teams from each pot -- one home, one away. So, unlike in the current format, a club in Pot 1 will play a game against two other clubs from Pot 1.
As a general rule, clubs from the same association will not be drawn against each other. However, to avoid deadlocking, the leagues with four or more clubs could play one match against another team from the same country.
From the final table, the top eight go direct to the round of 16. Positions nine to 24 will enter a playoff to earn the other eight places in the round of 16. Positions 25 to 36 are eliminated from Europe. There is no country protection in any of the knockout rounds, so for instance teams from the Premier League could play each other.
Unlike in previous seasons, there is no drop down of teams from the Champions League to the Europa League after the league phase. Once eliminated, your European season is over.
How will they decide the fixtures?
Controversially, it will be done by computer because UEFA has worked out that a manual draw would take up to four hours to complete and require up to 900 balls. A team will be manually drawn from Pot 1 as a ceremonial act, and a computer will decide the eight opponents.
UEFA will create four pots of nine teams. The UCL titleholders will be in Pot 1, with all other pots filled according to the five-year club coefficient.
Each team will play two teams from each pot (one home, one away) to create an eight-match fixture list of roughly equal strength.
More "big matches" are created by the teams in the top pots being drawn against each other, which wasn't possible under the current system.
For instance, the teams in Pot 1 would draw two other clubs from Pot 1, 2, 3 and 4. Teams from the same association still cannot play each other in the group stage -- apart from leagues with 4+ teams who could play one other team from their country, if the draw puts them together.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37628341/champions-league-revamp-how-competition-work
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Lotta love on here for Fulham and rightly so. Couldn't care less what the result is tomorrow as they've deserved every pint that's come their way this week. After the game though it wouldn't do any harm to approach Eze and Olise to work alongside Watkins and Duran next season. Just saying.
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Lotta love on here for Fulham and rightly so. Couldn't care less what the result is tomorrow as they've deserved every pint that's come their way this week. After the game though it wouldn't do any harm to approach Eze and Olise to work alongside Watkins and Duran next season. Just saying.
Are you getting your teams mixed up?
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Had soft spot for Fulham after meeting few of their fans after they battered us back in 2012 or 13 and they were apprehensive asking for directions back to town. Plus citizen smith and fact that they are a decent club. Us losing that playoff final proper sliding doors moment
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
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Is the theme tune staying the same . I sing it every time I go In the office now in front of the plastic mancs and Arsenal / Spurs fans on our floor .
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
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Bugger another one! You are on my list too Stu. Hope to catch up with you and your lovely wife next season.
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
I’ve had a row with nearly everybody I think. It’s not that deep compared to real life mate.
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I should hope not. Can you imagine the scenes in the pubs? People blowing.raspberries at each other and stuff.
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Bugger another one! You are on my list too Stu. Hope to catch up with you and your lovely wife next season.
Congratulations, Stu. I didn't realise you'd remarried since we last met.
Who does she support?
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
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Bugger another one! You are on my list too Stu. Hope to catch up with you and your lovely wife next season.
Hopefully the Bartons will be open for next season!
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Bugger another one! You are on my list too Stu. Hope to catch up with you and your lovely wife next season.
Congratulations, Stu. I didn't realise you'd remarried since we last met.
Who does she support?
Oof! Hope she doesn’t spot this!
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It was, but I don't thin I've ever felt lower after a game than I did that day.
Not a great day footballing wise, but personally a good one for me - I forced myself to go back to London.
My first time after an event that ended my career and life at that time.
I owe Risso for that. A very special guy, with a lovely family.
That’s wonderful, and no surprise about Risso.
Well done both of you.
Cheers Percy. I think you may have had some of my crap on here at times too. H&V is a great place.
You never know where people are - the loss of Stu Griffin showed that.
I’ve had a row with nearly everybody I think. It’s not that deep compared to real life mate.
Very true mate.
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I'll buy PWS and TV a pint. If ever I find out where they drink. ;-)
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I'll buy PWS and TV a pint. If ever I find out where they drink. ;-)
Nah, they'll have left 3 minutes before you arrive. Scorchiooooo!
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I'll buy PWS and TV a pint. If ever I find out where they drink. ;-)
Nah, they'll have left 3 minutes before you arrive. Scorchiooooo!
Ha ha!
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
That's because Maaaate still did a decent job considering they lost Kane. I don't think many would have expected them to get 4th, just most wouldn't have thought it would be us beating them to it. Until we're established I expect us only to be chosen for top 4 once or twice next season as well. Some people will be shocked at this and claim media bias.
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
That's because Maaaate still did a decent job considering they lost Kane. I don't think many would have expected them to get 4th, just most wouldn't have thought it would be us beating them to it. Until we're established I expect us only to be chosen for top 4 once or twice next season as well. Some people will be shocked at this and claim media bias.
Media bias!!! :o
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
All those listed, and they still though Garth Crooks wasn't worth getting a prediction from....
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loving the new Aston Villa video posted by the club.
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
That's because Maaaate still did a decent job considering they lost Kane. I don't think many would have expected them to get 4th, just most wouldn't have thought it would be us beating them to it. Until we're established I expect us only to be chosen for top 4 once or twice next season as well. Some people will be shocked at this and claim media bias.
Media bias!!! :o
😁 I knew it!
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loving the new Aston Villa video posted by the club.
Link?
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loving the new Aston Villa video posted by the club.
Link?
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loving the new Aston Villa video posted by the club.
Link?
Cheers
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Stephen Warnock knew. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/69038051
Interesting that no pundit picked Spurs to finish top 4.
He kept saying Villa would get top 4 all season in fairness to him.
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loving the new Aston Villa video posted by the club.
Looks great, love the title and look forward to seeing Scarlett Johansson in the Terrace View next season.
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Love it. Hopefully people will catch on to the facts that a) Peaky Blinders was based on a gang led by a bloke from Aston, Billy Kimber, who was portrayed as a cockney in the show because that knobhead Steven Knight wanted to crowbar Small Heath into a story in which they had no part; and b) BZ was the only real Brummie in the first series and was a proud Villa fan.
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Love it. Hopefully people will catch on to the facts that a) Peaky Blinders was based on a gang led by a bloke from Aston, Billy Kimber, who was portrayed as a cockney in the show because that knobhead Steven Knight wanted to crowbar Small Heath into a story in which they had no part; and b) BZ was the only real Brummie in the first series and was a proud Villa fan.
Spot on.
That video looked like a deliberate attempt to reclaim the word Birmingham from The Rags and their ridiculous statements, featuring that suspension of reality to paint them as the only club in the City.
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Liked it a lot. Even Gabby came across ok
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For your diaries, if you are making plans.
When are the 2024/25 Champions League League stage matches?
Matchday 1: 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2: 1/2 October 2024
Matchday 3: 22/23 October 2024
Matchday 4: 5/6 November 2024
Matchday 5: 26/27 November 2024
Matchday 6: 10/11 December 2024
Matchday 7: 21/22 January 2025
Matchday 8: 29 January 2025
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If we play on a Wednesday, would the Saturday game be moved to a Sunday? Im guessing Tuesday games wouldn't be?
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If we play on a Wednesday, would the Saturday game be moved to a Sunday? Im guessing Tuesday games wouldn't be?
We played on Thursday's and then played on Sunday, playing on Wednesday and then Saturday is the same amount of rest. No doubt some may get moved but it won't be a definite.
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Sorry, but is this the way to Barcelona?
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One of the reasons I was so delighted with our qualification was the likelihood of more Saturday games.
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We'll always be a Saturday before a Tues CL game.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCStatto/status/1688231438359859200?t=87q1gQBuHI9JCqB1SWlV6Q&s=19
Twitter thread of all our league goals this season. Didn't know where to post it.
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Brilliant. Thanks.
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Sorry, but is this the way to Barcelona?
Nope, Lazio or Roma this way mate.
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Updated predicted pots:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOREKkWXwAACIHi?format=jpg)
Could end up with eight games against Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Celtic, Galatasaray and Monaco.
(or in less glamorous news, Leipzig, Roma, Club Brugge, Shakhtar, Young Boys, PAOK, Brest and Sturm Graz).
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Sorry, but is this the way to Barcelona?
Nope, Lazio or Roma this way mate.
I think it's the same way until you get to Lyon, then you diverge.
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Sorry, but is this the way to Barcelona?
Nope, Lazio or Roma this way mate.
I think it's the same way until you get to Lyon, then you diverge.
Then you go left for Roma, and turn right for Lazio.
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Can we change the words of the song please, Lazio aren’t in the Champions League.
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Can we change the words of the song please, Lazio aren’t in the Champions League.
"Inter and Roma" scans.
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Just noticed 6 for Italy, but Roma is not confirmed. Do they lose out because Atalanta won the Europa? Or do they now go into the qualifying round because of there now being 6?
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Updated predicted pots:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOREKkWXwAACIHi?format=jpg)
Could end up with eight games against Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Celtic, Galatasaray and Monaco.
(or in less glamorous news, Leipzig, Roma, Club Brugge, Shakhtar, Young Boys, PAOK, Brest and Sturm Graz).
That would be brilliant seeing teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and Celtic at Villa Park who would have thought that six or seven years ago.
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Updated predicted pots:
Could end up with eight games against Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Celtic, Galatasaray and Monaco.
(or in less glamorous news, Leipzig, Roma, Club Brugge, Shakhtar, Young Boys, PAOK, Brest and Sturm Graz).
That would be brilliant seeing teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and Celtic at Villa Park who would have thought that six or seven years ago.
Even a couple of them would be good, the draw will likely throw up a mix of the exciting with the mundane.
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A mix of glamour ties with a few less glamorous more winnable ties would do nicely. I don't 100% understand it all but I think this new format probably suits us better than the old format. Watching Newcastle last season didn't fill me with confidence, to be honest. But I think we've a decent chance of being in the qualifying round after the group/league stages.
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Can we change the words of the song please, Lazio aren’t in the Champions League.
"Inter and Roma" scans.
PSG, Roma
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Updated predicted pots:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOREKkWXwAACIHi?format=jpg)
Could end up with eight games against Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Celtic, Galatasaray and Monaco.
(or in less glamorous news, Leipzig, Roma, Club Brugge, Shakhtar, Young Boys, PAOK, Brest and Sturm Graz).
That would be brilliant seeing teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and Celtic at Villa Park who would have thought that six or seven years ago.
Celtic ?
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Updated predicted pots:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOREKkWXwAACIHi?format=jpg)
Could end up with eight games against Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan, Celtic, Galatasaray and Monaco.
(or in less glamorous news, Leipzig, Roma, Club Brugge, Shakhtar, Young Boys, PAOK, Brest and Sturm Graz).
That would be brilliant seeing teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and Celtic at Villa Park who would have thought that six or seven years ago.
Celtic ?
Yes, based in Glasgow and play in green and white. You'll have seen them at some point.
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Just noticed 6 for Italy, but Roma is not confirmed. Do they lose out because Atalanta won the Europa? Or do they now go into the qualifying round because of there now being 6?
Think Roma get in if Atalanta finish 5th in Serie A.
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Can we change the words of the song please, Lazio aren’t in the Champions League.
Nah, leave it as it is. We're not going to change the song next season, if Bayern Munich don't qualify for the Champions League.
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My dream draw would this:
Real Madrid (Home)- Just to hear the Holte in unison shout "CITY REJECT" at Bellingham when he skies a shot early on.
Inter (away)- 90s memories and think the San Siro is finally getting demolished in a few years.
Juventus (home)- Another big game tie and they're not as strong as they were so would be winnable for sure.
Brugge (away)- In with us this season in the Conference league so that's more the level this squad is used to.
Celtic (home)- Atmosphere would be off the scale. And we should beat them.
Feyenoord (away)- Feels written we'll draw them and play at De Kuip.
I'm aware we would get another two but unsure which pots we draw more teams from as can't get an equal number from all three pots.
Anyway that's a decent range of glamour ties and winnable games which what it's all about. We probably need to win three to make the play off round.
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^^ There are four pots. We play two from each. They did a dry-run on C&B pod and it went like this:
Home
Real Madrid
Monaco
Leverkusen
Sporting
Away
Galtasaray
Atletico Madrid
Young Boys
PSG
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In terms of away draws, I'd like Inter., AC Milan, Sporting, Benfica, Sparta Praha or Bologna.
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Just noticed 6 for Italy, but Roma is not confirmed. Do they lose out because Atalanta won the Europa? Or do they now go into the qualifying round because of there now being 6?
Think Roma get in if Atalanta finish 5th in Serie A.
Yeah, that's right. It's a strange quirk, if they finish in the top 4 then Roma miss out but if they finish 5th then Roma get in.
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
And Man United, Chelsea, and Spurs have never been in the Champions League in its current format. The dross.
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
You’re talking to Villa supporters here - our default mindset is that you’ll be able to fall about 20 places in the league with a defeat!
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
And Man United, Chelsea, and Spurs have never been in the Champions League in its current format. The dross.
I like this distinction and look forward to patronising supporters of those clubs over it.
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
Booooo !
Emery out .
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
Who else is above us other than Arsenal?
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
Who else is above us other than Arsenal?
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
Who else is above us other than Arsenal?
AC Milan?
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I do like the new format of the CL for next season.
Seeing one massive, feck off league table will be brilliant.
You’ll be able to to jump about 20 places in the league with a win 😂
It’s going to be carnage, nerve shredding and fun.
And the best thing is that we are in it !!!!!
We're currently third in the Champions League table.
Who else is above us other than Arsenal?
AC Milan?
Nah, that's some AFC Bournemouth shit. Not in my name.
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I agree the new format is great for us
Guranteed some big games whilst also having a fighting chance of progressing
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The last day permutations will be something to behold I'm sure. I reckon 15 -19 points will be the cut off for auto qualification and then 10-12 will be the 24th place.
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We certainly do not want to be drawn away to Brugge. Imagine the humiliation of taking fewer fans than you know who.
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Plus all those lost over there might follow us back.
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There must be at least fifty thousand of them still stranded there, waiting to duff us up when we arrive.
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Don’t you just love spotty teenage internet warriors when they spout jealous nonsense like this.
https://www.themag.co.uk/2024/05/aston-villa-are-proof-that-things-have-worked-out-really-well-for-newcastle-united-with-europe/
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Don’t you just love spotty teenage internet warriors when they spout jealous nonsense like this.
https://www.themag.co.uk/2024/05/aston-villa-are-proof-that-things-have-worked-out-really-well-for-newcastle-united-with-europe/
They are always a bit bitter when it comes to Villa.
They are still triggered by a couple of our fans taking the piss when they went down about 400 years ago.
Strange strange people...
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Ralph Wiggum a Geordie, who knew.
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Don’t you just love spotty teenage internet warriors when they spout jealous nonsense like this.
https://www.themag.co.uk/2024/05/aston-villa-are-proof-that-things-have-worked-out-really-well-for-newcastle-united-with-europe/
Total nonsense.
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"Aston Villa had very kind luck with injuries this 2023/24 season" - I've obviously been living in a parallel universe in 2023/4 then!
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Ralph Wiggum needs to discover porn, the sad eejit.
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A Newcastle blog is overly biased and one eyed is hardly a shocker.
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Who really cares what a Newcastle fan writes on a Newcastle forum. Let them worry about finishing above the other also rans in the league next season like Palace, Bournemouth, Chelsea and Man Utd, while we focus on the top end and CL.
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It's The Mag. They make Wolves supporters seem rational.
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Utter bollocks spouted to justify losing their conference league place.
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Weird article.
If we hadn't "fluked" 4th spot I certainly don't think we'd be blaming anyone else but ourselves.
I'd imagine there's a little bitterness that they didn't appoint Unai, but as Bruce Hornsby would say thats just the way it is.
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Some things will never change.
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The comments are pretty rational tbf. A few calling him out on being a twat.
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The comments are pretty rational tbf. A few calling him out on being a twat.
This one in particular caught my eye as someone with more than two brain cells to rub together...
I reckon that if you try really, really hard, Dale (the author), you’ll eventually invent a solid reason why we’ve actually done better than Aston Villa this season. This is almost as silly as the comment I read yesterday where someone said they didn’t think Villa would do as well as we did in the CL. We came bottom of the group ffs!
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"Aston Villa had very kind luck with injuries this 2023/24 season" - I've obviously been living in a parallel universe in 2023/4 then!
I stopped reading at this point.
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The one calling the Villa fan who commented a 'Brumbletonian fool', made me smile.
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Probably written by a scobberlotcher.
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The Mag is always putting us in their headlines, it’s borderline stalking.
They didn’t so much last year when everyone was wanking off about them being a big club and they were in the top four. Now they’re not doing as well as us, we’re back in their spotlight.
I never, ever click on the articles, just let them get on with it.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Pretty much sorted in terms of qualified teams now. Only difference will be if Dortmund win this season's comp then Frankfurt will qualify as extra German team. If Real Madrid win then Shakhtar are automatically in League Phase. Not sure how the lower pots rejig following that.
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Assume there is a home and away game from each pot.
How about trips to Real Madrid, Benfica, Monaco, and Celtic ?
Under the lights at Villa Park ? Barcelona, Juventus, Feyenoord and Bologna.
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How anticlimactic would Leipzig, Shaktar, Young Boys and Sturm Gratz all at home be 😂
Although I’d fancy our chances of at least 10 points!!
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How anticlimactic would Leipzig, Shaktar, Young Boys and Sturm Gratz all at home be 😂
Although I’d fancy our chances of at least 10 points!!
Aye, save the big boys for the knockout stages.
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
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Probably written by a scobberlotcher.
Sounds like something The BFG would eat.
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
Same question if we got Maccabi away. Weren't they playing in Hungary in the Conference home games?
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
They played their "home" European matches in Poland in 22/23 and in Hamburg last season.
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Obviously unfortunate circumstances but an away game played in a neutral venue could be good from a ticketing perspective.
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2023/24 CL away ticket rules, I assume it will remain pretty much the same for next season
38.01
Home clubs must make at least 5% of the total approved UEFA capacity of their stadium available exclusively to visiting supporters, in a segregated, safe area. The price of tickets for supporters in the 5% allocation must not exceed the price paid for adult tickets in a comparable sector of the stadium that are sold to supporters of the home team (including tickets sold to season ticket holders, to persons who are members of the club, and/or sold as part of any promotion/promotional package for tickets exclusively for UEFA competition matches). Furthermore, in no case shall the price of those tickets for visiting supporters exceed €70. In addition, visiting clubs are entitled to purchase 200 top-category tickets for their VIP supporters, sponsors, etc., but they are not obliged to take the full allocation (see Articles 17 and 25 of the UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations and Article 19 of the UEFA Safety and Security Regulations).
38.02
Visiting clubs must, where relevant, sell their tickets by zone in order to facilitate the reallocation of unsold tickets. Visiting clubs which have requested an allocation of tickets for the whole or part of the segregated area may return any unused tickets to the home club without payment up to seven days prior to the match. After this deadline the visiting club must pay for the whole allocation, irrespective of whether all the tickets have been sold.
38.03
The home club may reallocate tickets returned or not requested by the visiting club provided that all safety and security measures (as mentioned in the UEFA Safety and Security Regulations) are respected and that such tickets are not reallocated to supporters of the visiting club.
38.04
The official UEFA representatives and at least 20 representatives of the visiting club and its association must be provided with complimentary top-category seats (and associated hospitality) in the VIP sector.
38.05
All visiting team ticket allocations and ticketing arrangements, except those related to the ticket price cap for visiting supporter tickets, may be altered by written agreement between the two clubs concerned. Any reduction in the standard ticket allocations should, however, only be agreed to if there is a specific lack of demand from the visiting team supporters for the match in question.
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
They played their "home" European matches in Poland in 22/23 and in Hamburg last season.
Cheers Dave. Would be a much handier away fixture amd hopefully mean our team would be less tired.
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
They played their "home" European matches in Poland in 22/23 and in Hamburg last season.
Cheers Dave. Would be a much handier away fixture amd hopefully mean our team would be less tired.
That would depend on how long they spend on The Reeperbahn!
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Where would Shakhtar away be played? Guessing not in Donetsk.
Same question if we got Maccabi away. Weren't they playing in Hungary in the Conference home games?
Maccabi Haifa played games in Budapest, but Maccabi Tel Aviv played their 'home' games in Bačka Topola in Serbia which has a tiny capacity, which didn't matter as they were effectively playing behind closed doors. The crowd for the 'home' leg against Olympiacos (when they threw away that 4-1 first leg lead) was stated as 370.
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I forgot there were two Maccabi's.
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There are loads of Maccabis and Hapoels.
Think Maccabi generally right wing and Hapoel more left wing.
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Think Maccabi generally right wing and Hapoel more left wing.
Useful to know when deciding who to cheer for.
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The CBS CEO seems to be hopeful that there will be CL games being played in the US in the future. It wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure home fans would love it.
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Think Maccabi generally right wing and Hapoel more left wing.
Useful to know when deciding who to cheer for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabi_World_Union
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapoel
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The EFL Cup third round will be split across two weeks in September and use seedings to avoid clashes with European games.
UEFA's expansion of the Champions League and Europa League to eight first-phase match rounds, plus 'exclusive' midweeks for all three competitions means they have taken 10 midweeks out of the calendar before the end of January rather than the previous six.
It has presented with EFL with a headache because two of their usual dates now clash with the weeks UEFA has reserved exclusively for Europa League and Conference League matches.
Whilst only Chelsea are involved in the latter tournament and that midweek is in December, a decision will be taken closer to the time about how to deal with potential clashes.
However, along with England’s other European qualifiers, Manchester United and Tottenham enter the EFL Cup at the third round stage in September.
In order to avoid them having to play two games in one midweek, the EFL intend to move their matches to the week before, which is the Champions League 'exclusive' week.
The EFL will use some form of seeding to ensure clubs involved in the Europa League do not get drawn against teams in the Champions League at the third round stage.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
I think I added this to an other football thread a while back but I'd just change it so the conference league place always goes to the league cup winner and then remove all the teams that are playing in Europe from it. It opens it up for more winners and reduces the pressure on teams like us to have players with 50+ appearances for the season.
In rugby there's guidance (that came from a study at Bath Uni) that players should be limited to a set amount of games and minutes over a season and that exceeding these levels leads to rapidly increasing risks of injuries. I think football needs to have a similar study because once you add in all the club competitions and international fixtures 60+ games and 4500+ minutes is not unusual and that's just not sustainable. I'd be looking at soft caps around 3500minutes and 45 games (not an outright ban from playing which could create problems but some form of mandated rest period within a set time frame). It's very easy to dismiss this because "back in day they'd play ...." thinking but we can't ignore the risks because we didn't know they existed in the past.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
I wouldn't, but I might consider leaving out the PL teams that are playing in Europe.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
I wouldn't, but I might consider leaving out the PL teams that are playing in Europe.
If that happened, they would probably have to withdraw the Conference League place that goes to the League Cup winners.
Admittedly, in most recent seasons, the League Cup winner has already qualified for Europe via its league position, but if the European incentive of winning the League Cup were removed, it would signal the end for the League Cup as a whole.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
Most PL clubs have only 2 chances of winning anything and this is one of them. I’d hope there’d be a majority of clubs against this but who knows?
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
Most PL clubs have only 2 chances of winning anything and this is one of them. I’d hope there’d be a majority of clubs against this but who knows?
If it didn't exist, our last honours would be in 1982. At least some of us have seen us win something.
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I like the League Cup, it’s quite compact.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
Most PL clubs have only 2 chances of winning anything and this is one of them. I’d hope there’d be a majority of clubs against this but who knows?
If it didn't exist, our last honours would be in 1982. At least some of us have seen us win something.
I got just as much enjoyment at seeing those 2
wins in the 90’s as I did seeing us win the league and European Cup. It’s a major trophy in this country and should remain so.
Removing it so a few can concentrate on Europe isn’t really on.
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I've always said that I don't care about the league cup and that hasn't changed. As far as I'm aware none of the other big leagues have 2 cups, I would rather just make the FA Cup more important. I think not allowing teams who are in Europe to compete and making an ECL place a reward is a decent compromise. I know it was our last last triumphs, but it's a different time now, teams play their kids until the semis, I think it has lost it's importance. That doesn't stop me from hating Phil Dowd.
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Yeah and i feel we can give squad player game time in this cup
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This has probably been covered but is there any definitive answer to if clubs from the same country can play each other in the league stage?
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This has probably been covered but is there any definitive answer to if clubs from the same country can play each other in the league stage?
My understanding is that you're not meant to but it may be necessary for associations with more teams (like England) to avoid deadlocking. I think it would be a maximum of one team from the same association.
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The draw has to be done by computer because it is so complicated. Easily fixed for the conspiracy theorists out there.
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I think I read somewhere that if they tried to do the draw manually then it would take over 4 hours. I’m a lover of overblown UEFA suited nonsense as the next man but over 4 hours!!
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I think I read somewhere that if they tried to do the draw manually then it would take over 4 hours. I’m a lover of overblown UEFA suited nonsense as the next man but over 4 hours!!
It would also get very complicated very fast with teams drawing against each other from the same pots.
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I think I read somewhere that if they tried to do the draw manually then it would take over 4 hours. I’m a lover of overblown UEFA suited nonsense as the next man but over 4 hours!!
It would also get very complicated very fast with teams drawing against each other from the same pots.
I read the same thing, they said not only would it take 4 hours, they'd need 900 balls.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
100% disagree. Ark at us, turning our nose up at the only trophy we've won in over 40 years.
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I went to one of the fan zones in London today, just round the corner from home. There's a giant inflatable Champions League trophy, and I certainly wasn't going to miss the opportunity to rock up in my 82 replica shirt for a few photos.
Place was bustling with Madrid and Dortmund fans, and the usual array of tourists from all over the world. There is nothing better for this Villa fan's soul, than having a whole bunch of people point at the claret lion rampant on your chest and say congratulations.
The giant is awake, and it's getting noticed all over the planet.
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I went to one of the fan zones in London today, just round the corner from home. There's a giant inflatable Champions League trophy, and I certainly wasn't going to miss the opportunity to rock up in my 82 replica shirt for a few photos.
Place was bustling with Madrid and Dortmund fans, and the usual array of tourists from all over the world. There is nothing better for this Villa fan's soul, than having a whole bunch of people point at the claret lion rampant on your chest and say congratulations.
The giant is awake, and it's getting noticed all over the planet.
I bet Paul Lambert is hanging around the Dortmund fans, hoping people talk to him about how he won the CL with them.
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I went to one of the fan zones in London today, just round the corner from home. There's a giant inflatable Champions League trophy, and I certainly wasn't going to miss the opportunity to rock up in my 82 replica shirt for a few photos.
Place was bustling with Madrid and Dortmund fans, and the usual array of tourists from all over the world. There is nothing better for this Villa fan's soul, than having a whole bunch of people point at the claret lion rampant on your chest and say congratulations.
The giant is awake, and it's getting noticed all over the planet.
Lovely.
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I think the Sacred Colours thread may get some welcome bumps over the years...
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Has anyone asked when the draw is yet?
If not, when is the draw?
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Has anyone asked when the draw is yet?
If not, when is the draw?
Back end of August.
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
Here you go
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Thankyou both! :P
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I absolutely can't wait for the draw. The new format looks excellent, and keeps it interesting hopefully right up to the end.
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I absolutely can't wait for the draw. The new format looks excellent, and keeps it interesting hopefully right up to the end.
Yep same
I’m still pinching myself every time I think we’re actually in it
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more.
Why, are their Hollister shops nicer?!
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more.
Why, are their Hollister shops nicer?!
Maybe the £-€ rate is favourable at the moment?
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I absolutely can't wait for the draw. The new format looks excellent, and keeps it interesting hopefully right up to the end.
Yep same
I’m still pinching myself every time I think we’re actually in it
All the previous years when i just tutted at the sky coverage as if it was a world summit as i could not give a flying f*ck what was going on - now i am the same i will make a nice lunch and a drink and spend the day watching it in anticipation.
We are back baby!!!!
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
Here you go
Anyone got a diary thingy to add these dates to a phone calendar?
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
Here you go
Anyone got a diary thingy to add these dates to a phone calendar?
I think they get added to the AVFC calendar automatically but only after the draw I think.
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Hand it over,
Hand it over,
Hand it ovvvver, Real Madrid.
I can dream can't I?
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I think making it to the preliminary knock-out stage should be the minimum target. If we progress any further, then that will be a successful first ECL campaign. I just hope that we're not going into January with nothing but pride to play for.
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... and it must be ... and it is ..
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I think making it to the preliminary knock-out stage should be the minimum target. If we progress any further, then that will be a successful first ECL campaign. I just hope that we're not going into January with nothing but pride to play for.
We always get to the quarters at least, and win it 50% of the time we're in it.
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Our success rate is better than Real Madrid's. Step aside.
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
I wonder if he's still waiting outside Hollister.
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
I wonder if he's still waiting outside Hollister.
More likely wandering around inside trying to find the door, those shops are so dark.
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
I wonder if he's still waiting outside Hollister.
More likely wandering around inside trying to find the door, those shops are so dark.
They smell nice though!
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
I wonder if he's still waiting outside Hollister.
More likely wandering around inside trying to find the door, those shops are so dark.
So you can't see what you're buying.
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https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1797332407386870113?s=19
So The Times reporting that the Manchester Clubs will be allowed to play alongside their sister clubs in Europe next season, when we had to reduce our ownership to play in the Conference League last season.
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https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1797332407386870113?s=19
So The Times reporting that the Manchester Clubs will be allowed to play alongside their sister clubs in Europe next season, when we had to reduce our ownership to play in the Conference League last season.
Shocked, shocked I tells ya.
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I nearly fell off my chair with disbelief. Next to those 115 charges being dealt with swiftly and robustly.
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https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1797332407386870113?s=19
So The Times reporting that the Manchester Clubs will be allowed to play alongside their sister clubs in Europe next season, when we had to reduce our ownership to play in the Conference League last season.
NSWE had to reduce from 46 to 29% of Vitoria. Ratcliffe owns only 27% of Manure. However NSWE had to also remove Directors from the board which is where INEOS do seem to have got away with. I wonder which one of the two clubs will have that applied to.
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As stinky as the stinkiest shit imaginable.
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So UEFA are now actively trying to help teams to circumvent UEFA rules?
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From the article, it seems that they are awaiting the details on what the clubs are doing. But the Times have seen a document which might say that as they have accepted a "blind trust" ownership from AC Milan last year, if the clubs show they are doing something similar they might allow it. I'm sure the business types will explain that away (and whether we had the option of doing that) but it seems they are not allowing it without some action which is what some people think is happening.
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https://x.com/martynziegler/status/1797332407386870113?s=19
So The Times reporting that the Manchester Clubs will be allowed to play alongside their sister clubs in Europe next season, when we had to reduce our ownership to play in the Conference League last season.
That's horseshit. There has to be a way for other clubs to appeal that..
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
I think I added this to an other football thread a while back but I'd just change it so the conference league place always goes to the league cup winner and then remove all the teams that are playing in Europe from it. It opens it up for more winners and reduces the pressure on teams like us to have players with 50+ appearances for the season.
In rugby there's guidance (that came from a study at Bath Uni) that players should be limited to a set amount of games and minutes over a season and that exceeding these levels leads to rapidly increasing risks of injuries. I think football needs to have a similar study because once you add in all the club competitions and international fixtures 60+ games and 4500+ minutes is not unusual and that's just not sustainable. I'd be looking at soft caps around 3500minutes and 45 games (not an outright ban from playing which could create problems but some form of mandated rest period within a set time frame). It's very easy to dismiss this because "back in day they'd play ...." thinking but we can't ignore the risks because we didn't know they existed in the past.
Yeah, when I'm king of football all teams in Europe will be banned from the league cup, but the league cup winner still gets a Conference League place. I think that'd be a huge improvement over the current state of affairs.
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I'd just leave Premier League clubs out of the League Cup from now on
I think I added this to an other football thread a while back but I'd just change it so the conference league place always goes to the league cup winner and then remove all the teams that are playing in Europe from it. It opens it up for more winners and reduces the pressure on teams like us to have players with 50+ appearances for the season.
In rugby there's guidance (that came from a study at Bath Uni) that players should be limited to a set amount of games and minutes over a season and that exceeding these levels leads to rapidly increasing risks of injuries. I think football needs to have a similar study because once you add in all the club competitions and international fixtures 60+ games and 4500+ minutes is not unusual and that's just not sustainable. I'd be looking at soft caps around 3500minutes and 45 games (not an outright ban from playing which could create problems but some form of mandated rest period within a set time frame). It's very easy to dismiss this because "back in day they'd play ...." thinking but we can't ignore the risks because we didn't know they existed in the past.
Yeah, when I'm king of football all teams in Europe will be banned from the league cup, but the league cup winner still gets a Conference League place. I think that'd be a huge improvement over the current state of affairs.
Will there be free beer and pies when you are king, Algy? If so, I’m right behind you.
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Start learning these words.
https://x.com/avfcthereligion/status/1798268900217675810?s=46
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7helh4gdgh/?igsh=MTJ5M3g5MG5kMm1oOA== (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7helh4gdgh/?igsh=MTJ5M3g5MG5kMm1oOA==)
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Start learning these words.
https://x.com/avfcthereligion/status/1798268900217675810?s=46
There is a mistake in the first line written in French: "Ils sont LES meilleurs".
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Start learning these words.
https://x.com/avfcthereligion/status/1798268900217675810?s=46
There is a mistake in the first line written in French: "Ils sont LES meilleurs".
Because of the plurality?
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Tu es le meilleur/la meilleure !
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Tu es le meilleur!
As SWMBO never tires of saying.
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Tsk!
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I am a little disturbed that the FA Cup final is on 17 May, full two weeks before the Champions League final. It will be difficult to keep the team sharp and in tip top condition with that gap. Worrying😟
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Wouldn't it be nice if in ten months time olaftab could say "I told you so"?
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Wouldn't it be nice if in ten months time olaftab could say "I told you so"?
A little less if he's really right and we lose both from poor conditioning.
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Hadn't thought of that. The timing is a disgrace.
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Still a while before we find out who Villa will be playing, but the first draw in the competition takes place tomorrow, with teams entering in the First Qualifying Round finding out their opponents.
Teams entering at this stage would have to progress through four rounds to have a chance of playing Villa so fairly unlikely, but you never know I suppose.
British/Irish teams entering at this stage are Shamrock Rovers (Ire), Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) and The New Saints (Wal) in the seeded section, plus Larne (NI) in the unseeded section. Ties take place from the 9th-10th and the 16th-17th July.
Second Qualifying Round draw takes place on Wednesday. Ties take place on 23rd-24th and 30th-31st July. This is the first round featuring teams who aren't champions. Champions and non-Champions are kept apart throughout the qualifying rounds.
Third Qualifying Round draw takes place on 22nd July with fixtures taking place on 6th-7th and 13th August (not sure why the second leg is just one day). "Rangers" enter here and will be seeded.
The final qualifier, dubbed the Play-Off Round, has its draw made on 5th August, with ties being played on 20th/21st and 27th/28th August.
Villa enter at the League Stage, along with Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic and holders Real Madrid. Our opponents are drawn on 29th August with the first of eight group games being played from 17th-19th September.
I assume people have familiarised themselves with the format by now, but, just in case... all teams are placed in one big group of 36 teams. To decide the fixtures, the teams are split into four seeding pots. Each team plays one home and one away game against teams from each seeding pot, including their own. So there is no real advantage to being a top seed any more.
At the conclusion of the League Stage, the top eight teams progress straight to the Round of Sixteen, while teams finishing 9th-24th participate in the "Knock-Out Round Play-Offs", for a chance to join the top eight in the Round of Sixteen.
All knock-out games are played over two legs, up to and including the Semi-Final, before the competition concludes with a Final in Munich on 31st May.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
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Whatever happens, please can people not book hotels for the stupid bastard final before we've qualified for it? Speaking as a rationalist who believes 100% in the football jinx effect, this kind of behaviour is sub-optimal.
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I've already booked a hotel for next year's Super Cup.
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Is it possible for Larne to play Shamrock Rovers in and around the 12th of July?
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They've been drawn together in the provisional groupings, meaning there is a chance they draw each other. Closest they could be to the 12th is if they play on the 10th.
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My mum was from Larne. My name is Patrick. I'm not mad keen on the place, nor is it on me.
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I'd imagine it's a get up early in the morning to boo some children on their way to school kind of place.
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They've been drawn together in the provisional groupings, meaning there is a chance they draw each other. Closest they could be to the 12th is if they play on the 10th.
My mum was from Larne. My name is Patrick. I'm not mad keen on the place, nor is it on me.
Hardly surprising given you painted the town with 'Ulster Villa Fans' street art and graffiti. Larne game can only be on the 10th as they're away to Belfast on the 12th.
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I'd imagine it's a get up early in the morning to boo burn some children on their way to school kind of place.
That seemed to be more likely from the one time I've been there. Not somewhere I'd rush back to.
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Yikes.
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They've been drawn together in the provisional groupings, meaning there is a chance they draw each other. Closest they could be to the 12th is if they play on the 10th.
My mum was from Larne. My name is Patrick. I'm not mad keen on the place, nor is it on me.
Hardly surprising given you painted the town with 'Ulster Villa Fans' street art and graffiti. Larne game can only be on the 10th as they're away to Belfast on the 12th.
Belfast is a bit too far from Scotland for Larne.
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There's the draw, no dream Larne trip for Shamrock Rovers.
(https://i.ibb.co/yF91Yx4/Screenshot-20240618-140827-X.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yF91Yx4)
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Seems a bit mad that you've got former champions Steaua Bucharest in there slumming it with a bunch of beach football chancers from Malta and Gibraltar.
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Fancy Steaua's chances against Virtus of San Marino.
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Not sure about that. There are no easy ties in European football, as Birmingham and West Brom never qualify.
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A few more teams people might have heard of in the Second Qualifying Round.
(https://i.ibb.co/Lv8920S/Screenshot-20240619-133208-X.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lv8920S)
Can't see any of the Irish or Welsh lads surviving until the Third Qualifying Round. Hopefully the Israelis get punted out, don't want to have to play any "home" games behind closed doors, had enough of that during Covid.
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Feels inevitable that we will play Juventus at some point now, after all this mucking about with swapsies.
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Doug's homecoming.
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McKennie scoring a hat-trick and doing a Ginola.
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Yeah.*
*The heart attack bit, the fat foook.
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The guy who does the "My Old Man Said" podcast seemed to think that Champions League tickets will be £75.00 a game - if they are, that is too expensive for me.
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The guy who does the "My Old Man Said" podcast seemed to think that Champions League tickets will be £75.00 a game - if they are, that is too expensive for me.
What is he basing that on?
Have we seen any Prem matchday ticket pricing for next season yet?
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The guy who does the "My Old Man Said" podcast seemed to think that Champions League tickets will be £75.00 a game - if they are, that is too expensive for me.
I won't be paying that if true, not that Villa will give a fook.
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The guy who does the "My Old Man Said" podcast seemed to think that Champions League tickets will be £75.00 a game - if they are, that is too expensive for me.
Surely it depends on where you sit?
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The guy who does the "My Old Man Said" podcast seemed to think that Champions League tickets will be £75.00 a game - if they are, that is too expensive for me.
I won't be paying that if true, not that Villa will give a fook.
I will.
And therein lies the problem because once you get people used to paying 60 a ticket for a standard league match, another 15 quid for a Champions League is the sort of number they'll almost all pony up.
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I doubt it will be that much, but if say a standard adult Holte ticket is £75 and people are stupid enough to pay it then they'll just keep upping the price.
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It's not stupidity to pay it, it's captivity. When you've waited your entire Villa supporting life for this, £75 is comparatively cheap. Not that I'd like to pay that much mind, but I'll be there whatever the cost.
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I doubt it will be that much, but if say a standard adult Holte ticket is £75 and people are stupid enough to pay it then they'll just keep upping the price.
Which is pretty much what has happened for the last 30 years, albeit more gradually on account of so many of those years being grim for us.
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I can’t see it being £75 all over the ground. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was but that would be a slap in the face. Financially I could pay it but morally it definitely would be something I’d have to think about.
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I assume they'll do a 4 game home package of some description.
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It'll be tied to Category A games. How much that is, we'll have to see.
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The guy who sat next to me in the Lower Holte who was not a season ticket holder, for the top games last season was paying £62.00 per game.
So based on that £75.00 is not far off what we could expect to pay, for a top European team, rocking up at Villa Park.
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I can see CAT A areas easily pushing £100 for the top tier games. Maybe they'll offer a package though which would average prices down for all the group games.
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There are no group games........
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There are no group games........
Well whatever they call the first stage now .
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I assume they'll do a 4 game home package of some description.
I think the Champions League cup scheme suggests they won't. Effectively, if you've signed up for that then you've already bought the tickets at full whack...
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Under the new format, teams will play eight matches in the new league phase (former group stage). They will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures against eight different teams, playing half of those matches at home and half of them away.
So 4 games in the "League Phase" at home , maybe they will offer a 4 game deal / package.
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Under the new format, teams will play eight matches in the new league phase (former group stage). They will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures against eight different teams, playing half of those matches at home and half of them away.
So 4 games in the "League Phase" at home , maybe they will offer a 4 game deal / package.
They won’t, it was in the last FAB minutes.
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That's a bit rubbish. The package was quite good last year and almost certainly helped to get the good crowds and atmospheres for each.
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Surely there's no chance the Champions League games don't sell out though, whatever the club charges?
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I was surprised they did the cup scheme for it, but then it does make sense. If very few season ticket holders have opted-in, it suggests they may need to price it temptingly.
If lots of us have signed up for it, it may make them more bold in pricing it high as the demand is there.
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They'll get away with stupid pricing as enough people will pay regardless just to say they were there. I've already seen the likes of Barcelona and Juventus , Inter etc down B6 so they won't be getting my money , midweek games are difficult for me anyway so it will be the sofa the TV and money kept in my wallet.
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Surely there's no chance the Champions League games don't sell out though, whatever the club charges?
Depends who we get I reckon. £75 for Sturm Graz and a Lille rematch might be a tough sell, especially if they're third and fourth matches and the novelty has worn off a bit.
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Surely there's no chance the Champions League games don't sell out though, whatever the club charges?
Depends who we get I reckon. £75 for Sturm Graz and a Lille rematch might be a tough sell, especially if they're third and fourth matches and the novelty has worn off a bit.
I agree with CDBF, who we we draw will definitely be a factor.
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We are guaranteed a Pot 1 team at home, the least attractive we could get is Leipzig or C115y or LiVARpool.
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This wiki page is really simple to understand and shows the rounds, pots dates etc.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
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We are guaranteed a Pot 1 team at home, the least attractive we could get is Leipzig or C115y or LiVARpool.
Don't believe we can draw other English teams.
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But does anyone know when the fixtures are out yet? ::)
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We are guaranteed a Pot 1 team at home, the least attractive we could get is Leipzig or C115y or LiVARpool.
I think we could only have drawn English teams in the unlikely event that England had six or seven entrants.
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I haven't paid £75 to see Brest since Goldfingers in Prague 2008.
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I haven't paid £75 to see Brest since Goldfingers in Prague 2008.
Post of the week!
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I haven't paid £75 to see Brest since Goldfingers in Prague 2008.
;D
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We are guaranteed a Pot 1 team at home, the least attractive we could get is Leipzig or C115y or LiVARpool.
Don't believe we can draw other English teams.
It's only possible if more than 4 teams have qualified from one nation. I think that's what I read. Even then it's only used to avoid a 'deadlock'. Did Spurs get 5th? 😈
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We are guaranteed a Pot 1 team at home, the least attractive we could get is Leipzig or C115y or LiVARpool.
Don't believe we can draw other English teams.
It's only possible if more than 4 teams have qualified from one nation. I think that's what I read. Even then it's only used to avoid a 'deadlock'. Did Spurs get 5th? 😈
Stop taking the piss ;)
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And that’s what happens when you piss about with the sideways and backwards passing!!
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And that’s what happens when you piss about with the sideways and backwards passing!!
You end up in the wrong thread? :P
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And that’s what happens when you piss about with the sideways and backwards passing!!
You end up in the wrong thread? :P
Weird take after you've watched us master it and have our best season in 30 years. Don't be shit at what you're doing is a good rule to live by.
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It all starts on Tuesday.
Anybody wanting an early taster The New Saints v Decic of Montenegro. A short drive up to Oswestry and tickets are available.
https://www.tnsfc.co.uk/
Incidentally the Villa are 50/1 to win it. They are 14th favourites. On that basis we would be qualifying for a two legged play off game with the first leg away to make it to the knock out phase.
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I do think we will get out the league stage.
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I do think we will get out the league stage.
36 team league.
Positions 1-8 go straight to last 16 knockout.
Positions 9-24 go into two leg play off to join knockout.
Positions 25-36 go out of Europe altogether.
We can finish as low as 24th and still have a 50/50 chance of making the last 16.
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But does anyone know when the fixtures are out yet? ::)
Draw for the league phase is on the 29th August.
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I do think we will get out the league stage.
36 team league.
Positions 1-8 go straight to last 16 knockout.
Positions 9-24 go into two leg play off to join knockout.
Positions 25-36 go out of Europe altogether.
We can finish as low as 24th and still have a 50/50 chance of making the last 16.
Yeah, I'd be very disappointed if we weren't in the playoffs. Depends on the draw after that, but making it that far would be a successful first season in CL for me.
This new format definitely favours the "smaller" teams more than the old one did.
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Luck of the draw will not just be who you play but when. Some of the big hitters from Pot 1 will probably already be easily qualified by the time you get to games 7 and 8. If they then field a weakened team against a side needing 3 points to get over the line there will be complaints from sides just behind them in the league.
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I do think we will get out the league stage.
36 team league.
Positions 1-8 go straight to last 16 knockout.
Positions 9-24 go into two leg play off to join knockout.
Positions 25-36 go out of Europe altogether.
We can finish as low as 24th and still have a 50/50 chance of making the last 16.
Yeah, I'd be very disappointed if we weren't in the playoffs. Depends on the draw after that, but making it that far would be a successful first season in CL for me.
This new format definitely favours the "smaller" teams more than the old one did.
As we’re one of them then that plays massively in our favour.
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^ yeah, that was my point
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Exciting times, to make the play offs , some 2 games they would be !
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Exciting times, to make the play offs , some 2 games they would be !
Yes, but they'd come after 8 games in the league phase.
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^ yeah, that was my point
But all of that's what the point is not
The point's that there in't no romance around there
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I’m expecting us to win it
if we don’t I’ll be super pissed off
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Yeah, if nothing clubs like Chelsea and the smaller of the two Manc clubs can win it, we should be adding to our haul.
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I’m expecting us to win it
if we don’t I’ll be super pissed off
It would be nice if, after beating Munich to win our first, we won our second in Munich.
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Champions League underway.
Panevezys (Lithuania) 3 HJK (Finland) 0 FT (1 Red Card)
Hamrun (Malta) 0 Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) 1 HT (2 Red Cards and counting)
TNS kick off in 20 minutes.
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TNS have an early lead, and it's through former Villa forward Brad Young.
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Three-nil to TNS, two for Young.
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He’ll be off to Bristol soon.
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Brad had a trial at Exeter last season but they didn't take him on, hence this spell at TNS.
Why Bristol, btw?
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Just seen rumours that they’re in for him;
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-among-the-clubs-keeping-an-eye-on-29-goal-striker/ (https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/bristol-city-among-the-clubs-keeping-an-eye-on-29-goal-striker/)
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Full list of results from First Qualifying Round, 1st Leg:
The New Saints (Wal) 3 Dečić (Mon) 0
Hamrun Spartans (Mal) 0 Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) 1
UE Santa Coloma (And) 1 Ballkani (Kos) 2
Panevėžys (Lit) 3 HJK (Fin) 0
Vikingur Reykjavik (Ice) 0 Shamrock Rovers (Ire) 0
Virtus (SM) 1 Steaua București (Rom) 7
Slovan Bratislava (Svk) 4 Struga (NM) 2
Borac Banja Luca (Bos) 1 Egnatia (Alb) 0
Flora (Est) 0 Celje (Svn) 5
KÍ (FI) 2 Differdange 03 (Lux) 0
RFS (Lat) 3 Larne (NI) 0
Ludogorets Razgrad (Bul) 3 Dinamo Batumi (Geo) 1
Ordabasy (Kaz) 0 Petroclub Hînceşti (Mol) 0
Dinamo Minsk (Blr) 0 Pyunik (Arm) 0 (match played in Hungary)
Second legs to be played next Tuesday and Wednesday, 16th-17th July.
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Ordabasy (Kaz) 0 Petroclub Hînceşti (Mol) 0
Two great 'very early rounds, European club competition' names, there.
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I can't begin to imagine where that Moldovan team's money comes from.
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I can't begin to imagine where that Moldovan team's money comes from.
Their sister club.
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Dinamo Minsk have to play all their "home" games at a neutral venue, behind closed doors. So the attend every game types better hope they get knocked out. They've never made it as far as the groups, previously, but have qualified for the Europa League groups a couple of times.
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Does anyone know how many European countries play their regular football seasons through the summer?
The Irish leagues (Republic) started doing it maybe 20 years ago with one of the stated aims being that it would give the clubs a better chance of progressing in Europe. There have been examples of that (Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers making the Europa League group stages) but I don't think it's been regular enough to call it a sustained success.
Curious if other smaller countries do better in Europe because of their optimum fitness levels by playing through summer.
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Does anyone know how many European countries play their regular football seasons through the summer?
The Irish leagues (Republic) started doing it maybe 20 years ago with one of the stated aims being that it would give the clubs a better chance of progressing in Europe. There have been examples of that (Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers making the Europa League group stages) but I don't think it's been regular enough to call it a sustained success.
Curious if other smaller countries do better in Europe because of their optimum fitness levels by playing through summer.
I don't know but if it had been adopted over here I reckon I'd have made it as a professional. I'm like a ballerina on a firm surface but turn into Bambi on ice once the going is soft.
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Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Georgia, Iceland, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway and Sweden are the other summer leagues.
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I thought the main reason for Ireland switching to the summer was they thought it would get more attention if not in competition with the Premier League.
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Was a few things, the main reason given was improved European performance but they've also boosted attendances and it's cheaper to maintain pitches in the summer, too.
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And, with the best will in the world, Irish summers...
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Irish summers are mostly indistinguishable from Irish winters.
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Irish summers are mostly indistinguishable from Irish winters.
It's actually easy to know when it's summer, as there are more big GAA games on.
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Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Georgia, Iceland, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway and Sweden are the other summer leagues.
Cheers our kid.
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And, with the best will in the world, Irish summers...
The rain is slightly less horizontal in the summer
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
Definitely. You also get more ranking points being in the CL so as long as the draw is reasonably kind we should hopefully double our points.
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I'm sure if I read how it works it would make sense but Chelsea, Rangers, and Leicester City are all ranked above us.
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I'm sure if I read how it works it would make sense but Chelsea, Rangers, and Leicester City are all ranked above us.
They’ve all played Champions League fairly recently?
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I'm sure if I read how it works it would make sense but Chelsea, Rangers, and Leicester City are all ranked above us.
It's the total coefficient points earned over the last 5 years. We've been in the Conference League once, Rangers qualify for Europe every year, so get some points despite not usually doing very well.
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I do think we will get out the league stage.
36 team league.
Positions 1-8 go straight to last 16 knockout.
Positions 9-24 go into two leg play off to join knockout.
Positions 25-36 go out of Europe altogether.
We can finish as low as 24th and still have a 50/50 chance of making the last 16.
We will finish in the top 24 I'm certain of it.
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
Not good enough our neighbours will overtake us soon and eventually be number one,if that happens I will definitely support them KRO
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I've downloaded the Champions League app this morning, just because I can, and it's actually relevant.
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I've downloaded the Champions League app this morning, just because I can, and it's actually relevant.
Thanks for the nod, didn’t know there was one
Going to do it now for snacks and snuffles
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I've downloaded the Champions League app this morning, just because I can, and it's actually relevant.
Thanks for the nod, didn’t know there was one
Going to do it now for snacks and snuffles
Need to change your ringtone to the anthem as well.
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I've downloaded the Champions League app this morning, just because I can, and it's actually relevant.
Thanks for the nod, didn’t know there was one
Going to do it now for snacks and snuffles
Need to change your ringtone to the anthem as well.
On it
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
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I'd normally approve of such behaviour, but I imagine they've suffered enough.
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
Good work.
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
I like it.
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
But they weren't bothered by the Champions League. That's what they kept telling us at the back end of the season?
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
You need a computer to pick up litter?
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
You need a computer to pick up litter?
I didn't realise the Co-Op in Inveraray was such a hot bed of Spurs fans ;)
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My screensaver at work has been updated so the Spurs fans nearby can enjoy it .
You need a computer to pick up litter?
I didn't realise the Co-Op in Inveraray was such a hot bed of Spurs fans ;)
They get everywhere
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
New chant for the Wolves game ?
"Seventy Ninth in Europe...You'll never sing that"
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
New chant for the Wolves game ?
"Seventy Ninth in Europe...You'll never sing that"
It would be technically correct, because they were actually 72nd in 2020-21. :P
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Lincoln Red Imps through to the next round, TNS and Shamrock look likely to join them.
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Officially 79th in the rankings;
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025 (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025)
The good news is, if I am reading it right, that we scored just below the Premier League efficient in our first season back.
So I think that means this season our points earned will start elevating us up the ranks.
New chant for the Wolves game ?
"Seventy Ninth in Europe...You'll never sing that"
It would be technically correct, because they were actually 72nd in 2020-21. :P
And top from 1946-59.
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Champions League First qualifying round, second leg:
Ballkani (Kos) 1 UE Santa Coloma 2 (AET) (3-3 on aggregate, UE Santa Coloma win 6-5 on penalties)
Pyunik (Arm) 0 Dinamo Minsk (Blr) 1 (0-1 aggregate)
Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) 0 Hamrun Spartans (Mal) 1 (AET) (1-1 on aggregate, Lincoln Red Imps win 5-4 on penalties)
HJK (Fin) 1 Panevēžys (Lit) 1 (1-4 aggregate)
Celje (Svn) 2 Flora (Est) 1 (7-1 aggregate)
Steaua București (Rom) 4 Virtus (SM) 0 (11-1 aggregate)
Dečić (Mon) 1 The New Saints (Wal) 1 (1-4 aggregate)
Shamrock Rovers (Ire) 2 Vikingur Reykjavik (Ice) 1 (2-1 aggregate)
Struga (NM) 1 Slovan Bratislava (Svk) 2 (3-6 aggregate)
FC Differdange 03 (Lux) 0 KÍ (FI) 0 (0-2 aggregate)
Dinamo Batumi (Geo) 1 Ludogorets Razgrad (Bul) 0 (2-3 aggregate)
Petrocub Hînceşti (Mol) 1 Ordabasy (Kaz) 0 (1-0 aggregate)
Egnatia (Alb) 2 Borac Banja Luka (Bos) 1 (AET) (2-2 on aggregate, Borac Banja Luka win 4-1 on penalties)
Larne (NI) 0 RFS (Lat) 4 (0-7 aggregate)
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Revised Second qualifying round draw:
Champions Path
Ludogorets Razgrad (Bul) vs Dinamo Minsk (Blr)
APOEL (Cyp) vs Petrocub Hînceşti (Mol)
Ferencváros (Hun) vs The New Saints (Wal)
PAOK (Gre) vs Borac Banja Luka (Bos)
Bodø/Glimt (Nor) vs RFS (Lat)
Malmö FF (Swe) vs KÍ (FI)
Shamrock Rovers (Ire) vs Sparta Prague (Cze)
UE Santa Coloma (And) vs Midtjylland (Den)
Celje (Svn) vs Slovan Bratislava (Svk)
Panevėžys (Lit) vs Jagiellonia Białystok (Pol)
Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) vs Qarabağ (Aze)
Steaua București (Rom) vs Maccabi Tel Aviv (Isr)
League Path
Luganu (Swi) vs Fenerbahçe (Tur)
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukr) vs Partizan (Ser)
First legs to be played 23rd/24th July, second legs 30th/31st July.
Draw for Third qualifying round takes place today.
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Lincoln Red Imps (Gib) vs Qarabağ (Aze)
That is a trip and a half for the Imps.
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And now, just when you were getting your breath back, the Third qualifying round...
Champions Path
Lincoln Red Imps (Gib)/Qarabağ (Aze) vs Ludogorets Razgrad (Bul)/Dinamo Minsk (Blr)
Celje (Svn)/Slovan Bratislava (Svk) vs APOEL (Cyp)/Petrocub Hînceşti (Mol)
Shamrock Rovers (Ire)/Sparta Prague (Cze) vs Steaua București (Rom)/Maccabi Tel Aviv (Isr)
Malmö FF (Swe)/KÍ (FI) vs PAOK (Gre)/Borac Banja Luka (Bos)
UE Santa Coloma (And)/Midtjylland (Den) vs Ferencváros (Hun)/The New Saints (Wal)
Panevėžys (Lit)/Jagiellonia Białystok (Pol) vs Bodø/Glimt (Nor)/RFS (Lat)
League Path
Slavia Prague (Cze) vs Union SG (Bel)
Lille (Fra) vs Luganu (Swi)/Fenerbahçe (Tur)
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukr)/Partizan (Ser) vs "Rangers" (Sco)
RB Salzburg (Aut) vs Twente (Ned)
Ties played 6th/7th August and 13th August
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Stading on regent street right now waiting for the ladies to finish in Holister. If I was Madrid or Dortmund I would enjoy it rather more. But I have that we've won it feeling all the same.
And you will very soon.
I wonder if he's still waiting outside Hollister.
More likely wandering around inside trying to find the door, those shops are so dark.
Finally made it out. It's like a hall of mirrors!
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Both Israeli and Belarussian twats knocked out, so no reason why we should end up having to play ant matches behind closed doors.
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Having scrutinized the new Champions League, what seemed to be wildly baffling has revealed itself to be really, really simple: The one nearest the mantelpiece wins.
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Darren lewis been very complimentary towarfs us saying he thinks we will do well in CL and challenging for title.
One of my favourite pundits. He seems to love unai
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He's Spurs in' e ? Probably trolling Gunners over Unai.
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He's Spurs in' e ? Probably trolling Gunners over Unai.
I think he just loves unai tbf
He has been complimentary towards us to on a few occasions
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Just read on the BBC Football website that they will show highlights of the Champions League for the next three years.
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I didnt realise rangers could qualify for Cl. One team i would want to avoid
Afew qualifers tonight. Hoping APOEL qualify that would be awesome
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I didnt realise rangers could qualify for Cl. One team i would want to avoid
I'd fancy us to beat them pretty easily if we put out a strong team.
Their game's on BBC Scotland atm.
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I didnt realise rangers could qualify for Cl. One team i would want to avoid
Afew qualifers tonight. Hoping APOEL qualify that would be awesome
APOEL game already finished and they are out. They're in the Europa League league stage as consolation.
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Actually I'm talking bollocks, they're in Europe League play off round
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I didnt realise rangers could qualify for Cl. One team i would want to avoid
I'd fancy us to beat them pretty easily if we put out a strong team.
Their game's on BBC Scotland atm.
Im thinking more in terms of trouble
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Cheerio Jose.
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Early contender for rubbish red card decision of the season at Hampden.
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I didnt realise rangers could qualify for Cl. One team i would want to avoid
I'd fancy us to beat them pretty easily if we put out a strong team.
Their game's on BBC Scotland atm.
Im thinking more in terms of trouble
I know, but I think it would be fine if we did play them. No real beef between the two clubs, and it's not the 70s any more.
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Early contender for rubbish red card decision of the season at Hampden.
Taken in isolation it was a shocker. However, just after Jefté was booked in the first half he fouled a Kyiv player to prevent a breakaway (which could have been a yellow if it were his first). After that he was going to be skating on thin ice, but it still seemed pretty harsh.
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The play off round starts next week for the last places in the League Phase.
The most probable pot allocations for the prospective winners are in parentheses:
Bodo/Glimt v Red Star Belgrade (Pot 3)
Dinamo Zagreb v Qarabag (Pot 3)
Dynamo Kyiv v Salzburg (Pot 3)
Lille v Slavia Prague (Pot 3)
Young Boys v Galatasaray (Pot 3)
Malmo v Sparta Prague (Pot 4)
Midtjylland v Slovan Bratislava (Pot 4)
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The play off round starts next week for the last places in the League Phase.
The most probable pot allocations for the prospective winners are in parentheses:
Bodo/Glimt v Red Star Belgrade (Pot 3)
Dinamo Zagreb v Qarabag (Pot 3)
Dynamo Kyiv v Salzburg (Pot 3)
Lille v Slavia Prague (Pot 3)
Young Boys v Galatasaray (Pot 3)
Malmo v Sparta Prague (Pot 4)
Midtjylland v Slovan Bratislava (Pot 4)
what pot are we in?
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Probably 4, possibly 3, but it doesn't really matter any more.
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Probably 4, possibly 3, but it doesn't really matter any more.
Why is that?
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Probably 4, possibly 3, but it doesn't really matter any more.
Why is that?
Because we play against one team from each of the 4 pots at home and one different team from each of the 4 pots away.
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Been confirmed we're in pot 4 after last night but, as above, it doesn't make much difference
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The play off round starts next week for the last places in the League Phase.
The most probable pot allocations for the prospective winners are in parentheses:
Bodo/Glimt v Red Star Belgrade (Pot 3)
Dinamo Zagreb v Qarabag (Pot 3)
Dynamo Kyiv v Salzburg (Pot 3)
Lille v Slavia Prague (Pot 3)
Young Boys v Galatasaray (Pot 3)
Malmo v Sparta Prague (Pot 4)
Midtjylland v Slovan Bratislava (Pot 4)
what pot are we in?
I think we are in 4. I think the seedings in this new format are irrelevant tbh as you play two teams from each pot anyway so makes little difference
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Big bumper update (because the site was down when I tried to do it last week):
Third Qualifying Round, Champions Path
Qarabağ (Aze) 1 Ludogorets Razgrad (Bul) 2
Ludogorets Razgrad 2 Qarabağ 7 (AET)
Qarabağ win 8-4 on aggregate
Slovan Bratislava (Svk) 2 APOEL (Cyp) 0
APOEL 0 Slovan Bratislava 0
Slovan Bratislava win 2-0 on aggregate
Sparta Prague (Cze) 1 FC Steaua București (Rom) 1
FC Steaua București 2 Sparta Prague 3
Sparta Prague win 4-3 on aggregate
Malmö FF (Swe) 2 PAOK (Gre) 2
PAOK 3 Malmö FF 4 (AET)
Malmö FF win 6-5 on aggregate
Midtjylland (Den) 2 Ferencváros (Hun) 0
Ferencváros 1 Midtjylland 1
Midtjylland win 3-1 on aggregate
Jagiellonia Białystok (Pol) 0 Bodø/Glimt (Nor) 1
Bodø/Glimt 4 Jagiellonia Białystok 1
Bodø/Glimt win 5-1 on aggregate
Third Qualifying Round, League Path
Slavia Pragua (Cze) 3 Union Saint-Gilloise (Bel) 1
Union Saint-Gilloise 0 Slavia Prague 1
Slavia Prague win 4-1 on aggregate
Lille (Fra) 2 Fenerbahçe (Tur) 1
Fenerbahçe 1 Lille 1 (AET)
Lille win 3-2 on aggregate
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukr) 1 "Rangers" (Sco) 1
"Rangers" 0 Dynamo Kyiv 2
Dynamo Kyiv win 3-1 on aggregate
Red Bull Salzburg (Aut) 2 Twente (Ned) 1
Twente 3 Red Bull Salzburg 3
Red Bull Salzburg win 4-3 on aggregate
And onto the next round. These are the final qualifying ties, winners join Villa in the league stage.
Play-Off Round, Champions Path
Young Boys (Sui) vs Galatasaray (Tur)
Dinamo Zagreb (Cro) vs Qarabağ (Aze)
Midtjylland (Den) vs Slovan Bratislava (Svk)
Bodø/Glimt (Nor) vs Red Star Belgrade (Ser)
Malmö FF (Swe) vs Sparta Prague (Cze)
Play-Off Round, League Path
Lille (Fra) vs Slavia Prague (Cze)
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukr) vs Red Bull Salzburg (Aut)
First legs played 20th/21st August, second legs 27th/28th August. Draw for league stage (featuring Villa) made on Thursday 29th August.
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I'm on holiday 27th October to the morning of 6th November. I'm praying for a home match on the evening of the 6th.
I'd be devastated if we were playing Real Madrid home or away whilst in mid air!
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
Here you go
Just bumping this as it took me a bit of scrolling to find the info
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9 days until the draw. Exciting
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Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but it's a pity fans haven't come up with an original Champions League song for this season rather than plagiarising the 'Is this the way to Barcelona?' one that Newcastle did last season. Or, at least change the lyrics as Lazio are not even in the Champions League this season. ;)
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Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but it's a pity fans haven't come up with an original Champions League song for this season rather than plagiarising the 'Is this the way to Barcelona?' one that Newcastle did last season. Or, at least change the lyrics as Lazio are not even in the Champions League this season. ;)
I wouldn't worry about it, we are no longer playing 'with Spinksy and Birchy, Alan McInally'.
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The first time we were singing that I asked on here had we made it up or taken it from somewhere. ( I was impressed if we'd just made it up that quickly after qualifying) and the only response I got was
grumpy "why do you care" "what does it matter?!" kind of thing.
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Somebody on here once posted something along the lines of '"No, Spinksy and Birchy will NOT do us fine" these days.
And everybody should have applauded.
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Are we expecting a change in ticket pricing, and a new set of criteria for members hoping to get tickets for our home UCL matches..last seasons European games were very reasonably priced, surely UCL games will be a different story?
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Away games are capped at £70 (might be €) by UEFA. That might give you an idea.
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Away games are capped at £70 (might be €) by UEFA. That might give you an idea.
Probably going to be the same as PL prices then..demand if we get Madrid/Barca/Bayern at home may get Heck thinking about a few extra seats perhaps lol...I remember Juventus in 83 and the buzz that tie created, hadn't known anything like it..
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Away games are capped at £70 (might be €) by UEFA. That might give you an idea.
Without stating the obvious, these prices are a total piss take .
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22/23 competition
Celtic and Rangers were on average the most expensive clubs to visit for away supporters in last season's Champions League, according to a new study.
Average prices for fans visiting Celtic Park and Ibrox were just below Uefa's price cap of 70 euros (£61) for away tickets in Europe's elite competition.
Celtic's average was 69.45 euros with Rangers marginally lower at 68.85.
Celtic charged the maximum away ticket price of 70 euros three times, while Rangers did so twice.
The study was carried out by Football Supporters Europe (FSE), which says the cost of away tickets in the Champions League and Uefa's other club competitions remains "stubbornly high", but that there was significant variation between countries.
Away tickets were sold at the price cap at more than 18 per cent of Champions League matches last season, with the average away ticket price in the 2022-23 competition being 47 euros (£41).
FSE found 12 of the 32 teams in last season's Champions League group phase charged the maximum away ticket price of 70 euros at least once during the season.
European champions Manchester City did so on six occasions. Despite that fact City were the eighth-cheapest club to visit in the Champions League, with away tickets averaging at slightly more than 40 euros (£35).
Tickets were sold at the Europa League's 45 euro (£39) price cap at a quarter of matches in the competition, with the average away ticket price just under 30 euros (£26).
Away ticket prices in Germany were more than 20 euros cheaper than the competition average, with standing sectors a big contributor to the reduction. Some tickets were priced as low as 15 euros (£13).
Only one game in Germany was charged at the top of the away price cap, compared to 16 in Spain, 10 in Italy, and nine in England.
FSE executive director Ronan Evain said: "It is FSE's firm position that clubs have a responsibility to reward the loyalty of travelling fans and to facilitate affordable pricing, especially considering the increase of revenue for all clubs during the next Champions League cycle."
The 70 euro price cap for the Champions League was introduced by Uefa in 2019 as clubs were charging as much as 119 euros (£103) to away supporters for match tickets in the 2018-19 season.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 a ticket in the North Stand was £4:50, so I'd imagine the Holte was about £3:00. I had a paper round at the time and could easily afford my own ticket. Before football went daft...
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I think it was £3 in the Holte £1.50 for juveniles. I might have the ticket stubb somewhere.
Awesome game. Even though we lost.
Sid’s header sent the Holte mad.
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41 years ago. Yikes.
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As match day 1 is listed for 17, 18 and 19 September what's the likelihood of our game being on the Thursday night?
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We will be entering this for the third time. There have been a couple of changes since we last played in the competiton back in 1983.
Firstly they rebranded it with an inappropriate name, many of the teams (ourselves included) are not champions in their domestic league.
In fairness, from next season it is being played more in a league format.
There will be 36 teams in a single league table instead of traditional group stages. Each team will play eight matches against eight different opponents, with four home ties and four away. The top eight sides will qualify automatically for the knockout phase, while the teams that finish ninth to 24th will play in a two-legged play-off to decide who reaches the knockouts.
Key dates.
Draw 29th August 2024
Matchday 1 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2 1–2 October 2024
Matchday 3 22–23 October 2024
Matchday 4 5–6 November 2024
Matchday 5 26–27 November 2024
Matchday 6 10–11 December 2024
Matchday 7 21–22 January 2025
Matchday 8 29 January 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
Lucky Omen..Our present captains surname begins with an M. Our leading strikers surname begins with a W.
Here you go
Just bumping this as it took me a bit of scrolling to find the info
There is reasonable gap between the games.
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Probably 4, possibly 3, but it doesn't really matter any more.
Why is that?
Because we play against one team from each of the 4 pots at home and one different team from each of the 4 pots away.
All 36 teams will be manually drawn using physical balls. For every team manually drawn, a designated automated software will randomly draw eight opponents across the four pots, who will be revealed on screen in the draw hall and on television. The software will also decide which matches will be at home and which ones away.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028f-1b7f80216368-4c26e95cc15b-1000--uefa-club-competitions-2024-25-onwards-new-league-phase-/
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Where can you watch the draw live?
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When we played Juventus in 1983 a ticket in the North Stand was £4:50, so I'd imagine the Holte was about £3:00. I had a paper round at the time and could easily afford my own ticket. Before football went daft...
i think ours was free with our season ticket , lower trinity , if i could check with my Grandad i would , he'd know . Love you RIP.
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As match day 1 is listed for 17, 18 and 19 September what's the likelihood of our game being on the Thursday night?
I'd say 1 in 3, with six CL matches per night.
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Where can you watch the draw live?
Usually on Uefa TV on their website.
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I think it was £3 in the Holte £1.50 for juveniles. I might have the ticket stubb somewhere.
Awesome game. Even though we lost.
Sid’s header sent the Holte mad.
Last seasons European games were great, but these should be amazing. If we could take the scalp of one of big sides at home Villa Park will be bedlam..even if your pie cost more than a ticket the last time we were in the competition..
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The UEFA draws as a viewing spectacle are ridiculously painful . They seem to take the joy out of everything.
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The draw is so complex that it has to be done by computer. Not sure how they'll televise that.
And in 81/82 all home cup games we included with your season ticket.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 a ticket in the North Stand was £4:50, so I'd imagine the Holte was about £3:00. I had a paper round at the time and could easily afford my own ticket. Before football went daft...
i think ours was free with our season ticket , lower trinity , if i could check with my Grandad i would , he'd know .
I had a ST. I’m pretty sure you had to pay.
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The draw is so complex that it has to be done by computer. Not sure how they'll televise that.
And in 81/82 all home cup games we included with your season ticket.
I think I read somewhere that they’ll draw a team out from pot 1 and the computer will then randomly decide all eight of its fixtures. And then the next team. By the time they get to us in pot 4 we’ll probably know most of our fixtures.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 a ticket in the North Stand was £4:50, so I'd imagine the Holte was about £3:00. I had a paper round at the time and could easily afford my own ticket. Before football went daft...
My Dad says they're the best team he's ever seen. Basically the 1982 World Cup winning side, plus Platini and Boniek.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 a ticket in the North Stand was £4:50, so I'd imagine the Holte was about £3:00. I had a paper round at the time and could easily afford my own ticket. Before football went daft...
My Dad says they're the best team he's ever seen. Basically the 1982 World Cup winning side, plus Platini and Boniek.
I'd agree with that, scored straight from the kick off without a Villa player touching the ball. Played a style of football I'd never seen. They were tremendous. Fair play to Villa, we had a right go that night..
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Spartak Moscow put in a better performance at VP.
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Spartak Moscow put in a better performance at VP.
Spartak from memory played very well at Villa Park, after getting a daft penalty in the first leg, in the last minute, in Cold War era Moscow. Mark Walters goal in Moscow is one of the great Villa goals of all time.
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If anyone fancies having a playaround with the potential draw - there's a CL Draw Simulator here:
https://draw.inker.one/#/cl/ls
My last draw:
Home: Paris St Germain, Bayer Leverkusen, Red Star Belgrade, Bologna
Away: Real Madrid, Club Brugge, Young Boys, Stuttgart
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Where can you watch the draw live?
Usually on Uefa TV on their website.
TNT at 16.45 on 29 August
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Imagine if we drew Juve at home first?
41 years on since our last Big Cup game and an early return to VP for Dougie.
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I know the highlights will be in BBC, but do yiu have to subscribe to TNT to watch the games live?
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Still hoping for Real Madrid, Milan and Benfica.
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Quarabag of Azerbaijan lost their 1st leg qualifier 3-0 last night.
Hopefully Young Boys can get the better of Galatasary tonight.
The less chance of long distance games the better.
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Real Madrid away is the only correct answer for me.
Failing that, I wouldn't mind Barcelona at home.
What a time to be a Villa fan. 8)
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If anyone fancies having a playaround with the potential draw - there's a CL Draw Simulator here:
https://draw.inker.one/#/cl/ls
I got
Home: PSG, Juve, Celtic, Girona.
Away: Leipzig, Atletico, Crvena, Bologna.
So two Italy and two Spain. I'm guessing two teams from the same country is allowed being as a fair whack of them are English, Spanish, German and Italian.
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If anyone fancies having a playaround with the potential draw - there's a CL Draw Simulator here:
https://draw.inker.one/#/cl/ls
I got
Home: PSG, Juve, Celtic, Girona.
Away: Leipzig, Atletico, Crvena, Bologna.
So two Italy and two Spain. I'm guessing two teams from the same country is allowed being as a fair whack of them are English, Spanish, German and Italian.
I’ve reloaded that page multiple times, and each one turned up a draw that I would be pretty excited about… which brings home (again)to me how far we’ve come in the last 5 years.
My most recent had us home to Bayern on the first game week.
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PSG, Benfica, Celtic, Stuttgart (H), Real Madrid, Milan, Sporting CP, Brest (A)
Yeah, that would do alright.
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I know the highlights will be in BBC, but do yiu have to subscribe to TNT to watch the games live?
In UK TNT only for live games.
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I know the highlights will be in BBC, but do yiu have to subscribe to TNT to watch the games live?
In UK TNT only for live games.
Not true any more, Amazon Prime has first pick for seventeen Tuesday night games.
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PSG, Benfica, Celtic, Stuttgart (H), Real Madrid, Milan, Sporting CP, Brest (A)
Yeah, that would do alright.
How many points from that lot?
Best case, I'd go...
PSG 1
Benfica 3
Celtic 3
Stuttgart 3
Real Madrid 0
AC Milan 1
Sporting CP 1
Brest..... 3
Is there any sense how many points from the 8 games would be enough for qualification to the knock-outs? I guess we'd need 3 wins out of 4 at home to give us a fighting chance.
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Is there any sense how many points from the 8 games would be enough for qualification to the knock-outs? I guess we'd need 3 wins out of 4 at home to give us a fighting chance.
The max anyone can get is 24 points. Very basic working out but last year in the old format with 18 points being the maximum, second places were 8, 9, 10, 12, 10, 8, 12, 12 so an average of 10 points. Add on 4 points for the two extra matches so I expect 14 points to be in with a chance of straight through. With 9 points being the low end of the 24th. Obviously the pot 1 teams are also now playing other pot 1 teams rather then "inferior" opposition so that could sway it as well.
I honestly think GD will be a big decider in qualifying or not qualyfying.
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I think this has the potential to be a really interesting format. I just hope we do well enough that I want to study the table rather than ignore it.
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I think the format looks great, the only real problem is that there is a lack of difference between finishing 9-16th and 17th-24th. If they made the 9-16th vs 17th-24th round one leg with the higher-placed team at home, that would be better.
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I think the format looks great, the only real problem is that there is a lack of difference between finishing 9-16th and 17th-24th. If they made the 9-16th vs 17th-24th round one leg with the higher-placed team at home, that would be better.
Agreed, I think that's a great idea.
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I think the format looks great, the only real problem is that there is a lack of difference between finishing 9-16th and 17th-24th. If they made the 9-16th vs 17th-24th round one leg with the higher-placed team at home, that would be better.
I think the biggest flaw for the law makers is that it doesnt make a difference what pot you are in. You are still playing the same sides from each 4 pots.
It looks abit messy not sure how they are gonna determine 8th if teams all have same points and GD for example. If head to heads were a draw as well then you have a right mess
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I think the format looks great, the only real problem is that there is a lack of difference between finishing 9-16th and 17th-24th. If they made the 9-16th vs 17th-24th round one leg with the higher-placed team at home, that would be better.
I think the biggest flaw for the law makers is that it doesnt make a difference what pot you are in. You are still playing the same sides from each 4 pots.
Don't really see that as a "flaw". Makes it more unpredictable and gives a chance for new teams to compete. The group stage has generally been dull as fuck for decades.
It looks abit messy not sure how they are gonna determine 8th if teams all have same points and GD for example. If head to heads were a draw as well then you have a right mess
Tie-breakers below. Head to head doesn't come into it as not all teams will have played each other. Doubt it will be that problematic, to be honest, you rarely see loads of teams on the same number of points, goal difference and goals scored in the league after eight games so not sure why you would be more likely to here...
2024/25 Champions League Tiebreakers
Rank
Tiebreaker
1.
Goal difference
2.
Goals scored
3.
Away goals scored
4.
Wins
5.
Away wins
6.
Combined points of opponents
7.
Overall goal difference of opponents
8.
Combined goals scored by opponents
9.
Disciplinary record
10.
UEFA club coefficient
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I got
Home
Bayern
Atalanta
Celtic
Stuttgard
Away
Barcelona
Juventus
Slatzberg
Monaco
Gives me a little twitch just seeing some of the names in there - bring it on
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I think the format looks great, the only real problem is that there is a lack of difference between finishing 9-16th and 17th-24th. If they made the 9-16th vs 17th-24th round one leg with the higher-placed team at home, that would be better.
Although it seems to have been decided that in two legged competition, playing home second leg is an advantage, which is what 9th to 16th get.
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Yeah, I know. I still think making that round one leg would provide a better inventive to finish 9th-16th and make the end of the group stage more exciting.
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And miss out on more tv money?
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I know the highlights will be in BBC, but do yiu have to subscribe to TNT to watch the games live?
In UK TNT only for live games.
Not true any more, Amazon Prime has first pick for seventeen Tuesday night games.
Good, a chance to bypass that clown Rio Ferdy
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They could ensure 9th play 24th, 10th play 23rd etc.
But that would then deny UEFA another 3 hour jolly to do the draw.
Also, one downside is you could play a team once in the league stage then soon after twice in the round of 16 qualifier which is not ideal?
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Away goals scored ahead of number of wins seems a bit wrong-headed.
After years of suffering them under Gregory, fookin'Eck and O'Neill, I'm so happy Unai doesn't do draws. We're either dynamite or a bit shit and tired. None of this 1-1 middle of the road shite anymore.
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They could ensure 9th play 24th, 10th play 23rd etc.
I think a problem with this is it prevents UEFA from avoiding potentially troublesome ties eg Serb club vs Kosovan club, Armenians vs Azeris. Maybe not massively likely in Champions League but possible in the other competitions which use the same format from the knock-out stages.
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There is a chance of no Scandinavian clubs in the 36.
Bodo, Malmo, Midtjylland are finding it tough going to qualify.
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There is a chance of no Scandinavian clubs in the 36.
Bodo, Malmo, Midtjylland are finding it tough going to qualify.
Im particularly peed of about Malmö as that's actually easier to get to than Midtjylland for me.
Although FCM have pulled it back to 1-1 now.
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First leg playoff round results
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Girona's ground (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadi_Montilivi) is about 55 miles from my house. However, their stadium is the smallest in the Champions League this season. In the Liga they can have just under 12,000 spectators but CL rules mean this will have to be under 10,000 as they can't use temporary stands.
I would love to see us turn up there but I reckon my chances of getting in would be close to zero.
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Not too bothered who we get, but I'd prefer to avoid Lille away if possible.
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Hopefully some team that will give us 10,000 away tickets. I don't suppose Wigan or Blackburn have qualified?
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Interesting to see Slovan Bratislava have an Adidas kit but are sponsored by Nike.
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Last time we played them it was a tad cheaper
(https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/7a4d8753-c920-11e5-95c0-14feb5da1938/ols/23905_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600)
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Last time we played them it was a tad cheaper
(https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/7a4d8753-c920-11e5-95c0-14feb5da1938/ols/23905_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600)
Bank of England website has that as being worth £16.68 in today's money. Definitely good value!
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Last time we played them it was a tad cheaper
(https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/7a4d8753-c920-11e5-95c0-14feb5da1938/ols/23905_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600)
Evidence that you are a person who believes instructions should always be obeyed,
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I'm not sure I like us being lower case. Not a fan of the yellow dot for the "i", either.
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I'm not sure I like us being lower case. Not a fan of the yellow dot for the "i", either.
It was the early 90s man, there were no rules
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I'm not sure I like us being lower case. Not a fan of the yellow dot for the "i", either.
It was the early 90s man, there were no rules
Furthermore, no one cared and there were no forums like this to engage with others if you did.
And they call it progress.
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I'm not sure I like us being lower case. Not a fan of the yellow dot for the "i", either.
It was the early 90s man, there were no rules
Furthermore, no one cared and there were no forums like this to engage with others if you did.
And they call it progress.
Haha thats so true. I dont even think we had dial up then
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
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I've mentioned it before but the first thing I ever did on the internet was find a football messageboard and abuse Man Utd fans, that would've been around 1996.
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I remember being at Uni in 1997, and doing an Ask Jeeves (there was no Google then) search for Aston Villa, and there was no official website.
Think it was at least another year or so until there was one.
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And of course H&V "first hit the net in..." April'97 I think?
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I remember being at Uni in 1997, and doing an Ask Jeeves (there was no Google then) search for Aston Villa, and there was no official website.
Think it was at least another year or so until there was one.
I was more of a Webcrawler man, personally. After I'd weened myself off AOL, that is.
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Copernic for me at the time.
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I’ve read we won’t know the fixture dates until the 31st. I was going to watch the draw with my finger hovering above flight apps but looks like it’ll be a few days after.
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I’ve read we won’t know the fixture dates until the 31st. I was going to watch the draw with my finger hovering above flight apps but looks like it’ll be a few days after.
That's correct. They take a couple of days to make sure that Inter and AC Milan don't play in the same city on the same day for example. Hopefully the announcement won't clash with the Leicester game.
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I’ve read we won’t know the fixture dates until the 31st. I was going to watch the draw with my finger hovering above flight apps but looks like it’ll be a few days after.
That's correct. They take a couple of days to make sure that Inter and AC Milan don't play in the same city on the same day for example. Hopefully the announcement won't clash with the Leicester game.
I’ll send my lad outside to book them if it does.
Lots of organising to do as you said and the first set of fixtures could be Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
I had dial up on Windows 3.11 but it was much more of a faff than in 95 and there was so little out there.
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I've mentioned it before but the first thing I ever did on the internet was find a football messageboard and abuse Man Utd fans, that would've been around 1996.
I thought the first thing most blokes did when logging on to the internet for the first time was to look for "specialist" sites involving German ladies and watersports. Or was that just me.
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I still remember my first ever online search. It was 'tits'. I'm not proud of that, but I'm not as ashamed as I ought to be.
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I still remember my first ever online search. It was 'tits'. I'm not proud of that, but I'm not as ashamed as I ought to be.
Did Birmingham city come up?
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I still remember my first ever online search. It was 'tits'. I'm not proud of that, but I'm not as ashamed as I ought to be.
Did Birmingham city come up?
Still waiting for the fucking page to load.
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I know the highlights will be in BBC, but do yiu have to subscribe to TNT to watch the games live?
In UK TNT only for live games.
Not true any more, Amazon Prime has first pick for seventeen Tuesday night games.
Ah thanks for that, I didn't know.
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The first thing i did when i when i wason the internet was sign up to teenchat to meet girls. God that feels so long ago. I feel so old 😂👴
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The first thing i did when i when i wason the internet was sign up to teenchat to meet girls. God that feels so long ago. I feel so old 😂👴
Not surprising, given you were 45 when you first logged on to the internet.
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The first thing i did when i when i wason the internet was sign up to teenchat to meet girls. God that feels so long ago. I feel so old 😂👴
Not surprising, given you were 45 when you first logged on to the internet.
Im not currently in my 70s thank you ! Im not even that age now 😂
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They could ensure 9th play 24th, 10th play 23rd etc.
But that would then deny UEFA another 3 hour jolly to do the draw.
Also, one downside is you could play a team once in the league stage then soon after twice in the round of 16 qualifier which is not ideal?
They are doing it so 9th or 10th play 23rd or 24th, 11th or 12th v 21st or 22nd etc which gives them the chance to keep teams in different halves of the draw for political reasons if needed. Then after the play-off 9th or 10th (if they get through) would play 7th or 8th in Rnd of 16. So in theory every position matters. The top two in the league can’t meet again until the final - nor meet 3rd or 4th until the Semis.
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
I miss MS-DOS
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I've mentioned it before but the first thing I ever did on the internet was find a football messageboard and abuse Man Utd fans, that would've been around 1996.
There should be medals given out for that sort of endeavour.
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I still remember my first ever online search. It was 'tits'. I'm not proud of that, but I'm not as ashamed as I ought to be.
No need to be ashamed of searching out for manu fans.
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but it would be quite fitting to draw Feyenoord away. Our 150th anniversary year, and where better to visit than the scene of our greatest ever triumph?
*I can also see us being drawn against Dougie.
It's a funny ole game.
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
Nah, I definitely had dial up pre Windows 95, I had it with Windows for Workgroups, or 3.1 as I think it was called.
All that fucking about with winsock.dll. What a nightmare that was.
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The first thing i did when i when i wason the internet was sign up to teenchat to meet girls. God that feels so long ago. I feel so old 😂👴
Not surprising, given you were 45 when you first logged on to the internet.
Im not currently in my 70s thank you ! Im not even that age now 😂
Well then, you've no right to be calling yourself old for at least another 10 years. :)
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The first thing i did when i when i wason the internet was sign up to teenchat to meet girls. God that feels so long ago. I feel so old 😂👴
Not surprising, given you were 45 when you first logged on to the internet.
Im not currently in my 70s thank you ! Im not even that age now 😂
Well then, you've no right to be calling yourself old for at least another 10 years. :)
Ha i see youe point. Im still in early 40s just generally feeling old talking about msn messager and dial up 😁
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Did anyone else try ICQ? That was quite a lively chat room, especially after about 10/11 pm when North America joined in after their tea.
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
Nah, I definitely had dial up pre Windows 95, I had it with Windows for Workgroups, or 3.1 as I think it was called.
All that fucking about with winsock.dll. What a nightmare that was.
A reminder that Microsoft were using the kind of twattish terminology that has now become commonplace a long, long time ago.
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On the topic of squads...
List A
On List A, no club can have more than 25 players. This means that they are genuinely limited to naming two full starting 11s and then three extra players. Within this, eight places are reserved exclusively for "locally trained players" and no club may have more than four "association-trained players" listed in these eight places on List A. The list must directly specify which players qualify for this, so there is no confusion.
List B
However, on List B, a club can register an unlimited number of players if they are born on or after 1st January 2003, for the 2024/25 season. Moreover, since their 15th birthday, the player must have played for the club for an uninterrupted period of two years, or a total of three consecutive years. He can have a maximum of one loan period to a club from the same association for a period not longer than one year. Each club must also have at least two goalkeepers on List A, and three after combining List A and B.
So unless we make an unlikely late move for Grealish, our "locally trained players" are only going to be just Ramsey and Philogene, so we'll only have a squad of 23?
Four "association-trained players" is easy. Third goalkeeper can come from List B, so Emi, Olsen (or Gauci) and Zwych.
So nineteen players (assuming no new signings) from:
Cash (association trained)
Konsa (AT)
Mings (AT)
Watkins (AT)
Barkley (AT)
Rogers (AT)
Diego Carlos
McGinn
Pau
Digne
Iling-Junior
Duran
Tielemans
Onana
Buendia
Ned
Barrenechea
Maatsen
Bailey
Kamara
Presumably Kamara is the one who doesn't make the cut?
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It'd be a big risk not to include Kamara. Risky to include him as well I guess, but when he's back he's the sort of player who could make a huge difference.
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Yeah. Ned or Barrenechea are probably next in the queue to be cut, with Bogarde on List B to step in if an emergency arises.
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Didn't we have two squad cut offs in the Conference? One for the group stages and then we named another for the knockouts? If that's the case Kamara is the obvious one to leave out for the first selection.
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Young Boys, Salzburg, and Sparta Prague progress through to the League phase.
Galatasaray, Malmo, and Dynamo Kyiv eliminated.
Four more qualifying matches tomorrow and we will know the 36 teams for the draw on Thursday.
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Sorry if this has been covered so Thursday are all the fixtures drawn? Or just some?
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Sorry if this has been covered so Thursday are all the fixtures drawn? Or just some?
We will know our 8 opponents on Thursday and then by Saturday apparently the order and dates we play them.
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Sorry if this has been covered so Thursday are all the fixtures drawn? Or just some?
We will know our 8 opponents on Thursday and then by Saturday apparently the order and dates we play them.
Thank you Richard👌
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Sorry if this has been covered so Thursday are all the fixtures drawn? Or just some?
It's live on BBC RB1 if you want to follow the excitement of the computerised draw with your host, Jermaine Jenas.
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We didn't. Windows 95 ushered that in.
Nah, I definitely had dial up pre Windows 95, I had it with Windows for Workgroups, or 3.1 as I think it was called.
All that fucking about with winsock.dll. What a nightmare that was.
I meant on a mass-market level, prior to Windows '95, even dial-up internet was just not a thing in households and the majority of offices still used the phonelines for faxing more than waiting for an Alta Vista page to load.
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My Speccy used to scream like it was being tortured.
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Think TNT are covering draw on their YouTube channel too.
Doesn't start until 5pm tomorrow.
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Think TNT are covering draw on their YouTube channel too.
Doesn't start until 5pm tomorrow.
Also on Amazon Prime
League Phase Draw Show. Check it out now on Prime Video!
https://watch.amazon.co.uk/detail?lcid=amzn1.dv.gti.37ea67fc-d411-4f9f-9390-df4c1893afd6&ref_=atv_dp_share_lv&r=web
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I can't wait for the draw.
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England: Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa
Spain: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atletico Madrid
Italy: Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna
Germany: Bayer Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern Munich, RB Leipzig, Borussia Dortmund
France: Paris St-Germain, Monaco, Brest
Netherlands: PSV Eindhoven, Feyenoord
Portugal: Sporting Lisbon, Benfica
Belgium: Club Bruges
Scotland: Celtic
Austria: Sturm Graz, Salzburg
Ukraine: Shakhtar Donetsk
Switzerland: Young Boys
Czech Republic: Sparta Prague
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I’d love an away for the first game. Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL, it doesn’t get any better.
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
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England: Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa
Spain: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atletico Madrid
Italy: Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna
Germany: Bayer Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern Munich, RB Leipzig, Borussia Dortmund
France: Paris St-Germain, Monaco, Brest
Netherlands: PSV Eindhoven, Feyenoord
Portugal: Sporting Lisbon, Benfica
Belgium: Club Bruges
Scotland: Celtic
Austria: Sturm Graz, Salzburg
Ukraine: Shakhtar Donetsk
Switzerland: Young Boys
Czech Republic: Sparta Prague
Not forgetting the 4 still to be decided tonight who are probably
Lille
Slovan Bratislava or Midtjylland
Dinamo Zagreb
Red Star Belgrade or Bodø/Glimt
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Germany and Italy having five clubs still doesn't feel right. England is the richest and bestest league for chrissakes. (Not that I want Spudz there)
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BBC are doing the draw live as well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c17gn9vde8lo
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Anyone have the predicted pots with the updated teams?
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
Only one can be drawn away as in the same pot.
https://www.90min.com/2024-25-champions-league-confirmed-teams-pots
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
I’d take that and a few days in Portugal to start.
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
I’d take that and a few days in Portugal to start.
Hoping for some September sun, so it would be ideal. Hopefully we don't get Belgrade. Think it was Mostar we were in seeing the videos of the Serbs attacking Man City fans. Seems a grim old place.
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
I'm hoping for Inter, as well.
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One of the Milan clubs away, Celtic away, a German outfit away and Lisbon first game away please.
I’d take that and a few days in Portugal to start.
Hoping for some September sun, so it would be ideal. Hopefully we don't get Belgrade. Think it was Mostar we were in seeing the videos of the Serbs attacking Man City fans. Seems a grim old place.
Seems to be a common theme in Eastern Europe. Portugal, Italy or Spain first off would be ideal. Monaco not too bad either.
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Belgrade is reported to be an amazing city (from reports by non-football fans anyway).
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Belgrade is reported to be an amazing city (from reports by non-football fans anyway).
Mostar were pretty sectarian to be fair, they just happened to be quite jolly Catholic Croats, delighted at playing the English. The other team from across the river were the Bosniak Muslim team. It was their fans who attacked a lad on the bridge, who ended up looking like a 1970s Millwall fan with the way they bandaged his head. Good times.
The one upmanship of the Church builders and their steeples in the town stretching like a primary school child aching to answer their favourite teacher's question, so as to be that little bit taller than the mosque wasn't lost on me. Or the big cross somebody had whacked on top the hill.
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I’d love an away for the first game. Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL, it doesn’t get any better.
Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL Final?
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Any idea what time on Saturday the dates of the games will be announced?
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Any idea what time on Saturday the dates of the games will be announced?
About a nanosecond before Ryanair hike their prices ex-BHX.
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I’d love an away for the first game. Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL, it doesn’t get any better.
Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL Final?
Well of course!
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So looking at the way balls are going to be pulled (😳) by the time they get to pot 4 we will know the 6 opponents. We may also know the final two before our name is pulled out.
Am I correct in thinking that at that stage we will also know home and away opponents with match dates being fixed on Saturday?
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I’d love an away for the first game. Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL, it doesn’t get any better.
Nice hot weather and the Villa in the CL Final?
I hope you have reserved your hotel room in Munich?
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Dinamo Zagreb through at the expense of Quarabag.
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Early goal for Slavia, really having a go at Lille. Would love a trip back to Prague.
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I hope lille go out. They are tricky side
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I hope lille go out. They are tricky side
They don’t look as good as last year.
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Lille won their first two games in Ligue 1 0-2 and 2-0. They are at home to PSG on Sunday. Let's see how that goes. And the rest of tonight's game.
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Slavia should be 3 up here, Lille have been shite
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Midtjylland have gone ahead in Bratislava.
Not only could they be the only scandanavian team in the 36, but if we play them it will be the hardest to pronounce opposition since that Dr Hfuhruhurr Icelandic team.
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Midtjylland have gone ahead in Bratislava.
Not only could they be the only scandanavian team in the 36, but if we play them it will be the hardest to pronounce opposition since that Dr Hfuhruhurr Icelandic team.
"Mit You Lan" will be close enough.
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Lille possibly put it to bed it 1-1.
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Bratislava equaliser with 8 minutes left.
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Oh goal for Slavia, game on again.
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Bratislava now in front with 5 minutes to go.
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Last 3 spots all up for grabs with a few mins to go.
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Slavia hit the bar. This isn’t over
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Slavia hit the bar oof
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FCM hit the post from a free kick.
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Lille through
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The chances Slavia have missed, valiant effort but not to be.
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Bratislava through.
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Red Star complete the 36.
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Lille, Red Star, and Slovan Bratislava make up the final 36.
No Scandanavian teams.
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Lille, Red Star, and Slovan Bratislava make up the final 36.
No Scandanavian teams.
Given the level is at best lower championship for the most part, that's probably fair enough.
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England: Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa
Spain: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Girona, Atletico Madrid
Italy: Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta, Bologna
Germany: Bayer Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Bayern Munich, RB Leipzig, Borussia Dortmund
France: Paris St-Germain, Monaco, Brest, Lille
Netherlands: PSV Eindhoven, Feyenoord
Portugal: Sporting Lisbon, Benfica
Belgium: Club Bruges
Scotland: Celtic
Austria: Sturm Graz, Salzburg
Ukraine: Shakhtar Donetsk
Switzerland: Young Boys
Czech Republic: Sparta Prague
Serbia: Red Star Belgrade
Slovakia: Slovan Bratislava
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Not Villa but....
Exclusive: UEFA won’t allow clubs to declare income from sale of assets to sister companies - means that Chelsea face big challenge to comply with Uefa’s financial rules this season.
(ie no hotel sale loophole).
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
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Anyone got a picture of the projected pots?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
Where did you get that image from dude?
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The tap in merchants twitter account.
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Not Villa but....
Exclusive: UEFA won’t allow clubs to declare income from sale of assets to sister companies - means that Chelsea face big challenge to comply with Uefa’s financial rules this season.
(ie no hotel sale loophole).
Great news - just ridiculous they have taken so long to do it
Think chelsea are ok though as they ahve sold a host of players
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So we can't sell the ground to ourselves again?
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Not Villa but....
Exclusive: UEFA won’t allow clubs to declare income from sale of assets to sister companies - means that Chelsea face big challenge to comply with Uefa’s financial rules this season.
(ie no hotel sale loophole).
Great news - just ridiculous they have taken so long to do it
Think chelsea are ok though as they ahve sold a host of players
They have but approx £76 mill for hotels, a large chunk for a car park is going to bite them in the arse now. Plus they sold the womens team to themselves and Im not sure of that falls into it as well.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
Where did you get that image from dude?
I saw it on social media earlier
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Pot four seems the important one. Pretty much guaranteed to get some very tough games in pots one and two and pot three should provide winnable games.
Huge difference between playing, say, Slovan Bratislava and Sturm Graz and getting Girona and Stuttgart.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
Where did you get that image from dude?
I saw it on social media earlier
;)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
Where did you get that image from dude?
I saw it on social media earlier
;)
Tuscans there also another from TNT here
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/7CsCTHrgJgwZqf3E/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Beaten to it.
Where did you get that image from dude?
I saw it on social media earlier
;)
Tuscans there also another from TNT here
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/7CsCTHrgJgwZqf3E/
They got that from here.
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So did Romano.
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So did Romano.
I'll be having words with that tosser...pissing on my chips every time I'm breaking exclusives.
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I want the easiest teams out of all pots. Sod “glamour” ties.
Save that for the knockouts.
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Yep. Give us sommat to get our teeth into and we have the knockouts to face the big boys.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWGP6VXWYAE0dPP?format=jpg&name=small)
Looking at that. Last season we had a win and draw against teams in Pot 1, 2 wins in Pot 2, and a win and draw (sort of) from Pot 3. The League phase looks a piece of piss, when does the last 16 knockout start ?
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I want the easiest teams out of all pots. Sod “glamour” ties.
Save that for the knockouts.
So Leipzig, PSG,
Brugge, Shakhtar
Red Star, Young Boy
Slovan Bratislava and Sturm Graz
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So Leipzig, PSG,
Brugge, Shakhtar
Red Star, Young Boy
Slovan Bratislava and Sturm Graz
That would be pretty underwhelming.
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which pot has Sherif Tipasol
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Assuming max two teams from any other country and no English opponents.
Most difficult draw:
Real Madrid, PSG, Bayer Leverkusen, Juventus, PSV, Sporting, Girona, Stuttgart
Easiest draw:
Inter, Leipzig, Club Brugge, Shakhtar Donetsk, Crvena Zvezda, Young Boys, Slovan Bratislava, Sturm Graz
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If it's Bratislava away just watch where you book to stay overnight.
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There are some good hostels, I've heard.
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If it's Bratislava away just watch where you book to stay overnight.
Bratislava is a good away trip . Some good clubs there for post match .
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There are some good hostels, I've heard.
Of course my horse.
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Assuming max two teams from any other country and no English opponents.
Most difficult draw:
Real Madrid, PSG, Bayer Leverkusen, Juventus, PSV, Sporting, Girona, Stuttgart
Easiest draw:
Inter, Leipzig, Club Brugge, Shakhtar Donetsk, Crvena Zvezda, Young Boys, Slovan Bratislava, Sturm Graz
Going by last season, I don't think Inter is the easiest draw. I think they will be harder than PSG. From what I have heard from experts, this Dortmund team will not be as good as last season, so potentially them as well (and they were poorer in their league than Europe, anyway). No sweat eitherway, like. We'll fuck them up.
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If it's Bratislava away just watch where you book to stay overnight.
Bed bugs?
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ITS DRAW DAY!!
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Never has a 2 or 3 hour computer controlled borefest been so eagerly anticipated.
I can’t wait for 5 o’clock.
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I like boring computer-controlled things. :(
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I want the easiest teams out of all pots. Sod “glamour” ties.
Save that for the knockouts.
I know alot of people want real madrid but nothing would make me sicker than seeling bellendham scoring in front of the holte
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That will be the closest Blues will ever come to winning the CL, dreaming about a bloke from Dudley scoring a consolation goal at Villa Park.
Bring it on i say.
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Bayern (H)
Madrid (H)
Brugge (A)
Juve (H)
Celtic (H)
Young Boys (A)
Prague (A)
Bratislava (A)
That’s what I’d like.
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Assume you have 1 home and 1 away from each pot?
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I'm reading this morning that the draw should take about 30 minutes, if it was drawn manually, it would take about 4 hours to complete. Thank god for computers!
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I like boring computer-controlled things. :(
And me. I think we’ll get Spartak Moscow and Zenit.
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I want the glamour ties
Real Madrid
Bayern M
Juventus
AC Milan
Celtic
PSV
Monaco
Brest (because everyone needs a bosom for a pillow)
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I want the glamour ties
Real Madrid
Bayern M
Juventus
AC Milan
Celtic
PSV
Monaco
Brest (because everyone needs a bosom for a pillow)
Id be suprised if we qualified with those games. I want some glamour ties but prefer games where we can get through as that helps with more money for the coffers to help with FFP
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Yep, shit all the way for me.
I don't want us all melting down next summer when we have to sell everyone because we didn't take our chance to rack up the money from wins in the CL. I don't think memories of playing 'giants' will make up for that.
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Yep, shit all the way for me.
I don't want us all melting down next summer when we have to sell everyone because we didn't take our chance to rack up the money from wins in the CL. I don't think memories of playing 'giants' will make up for that.
Nail on head for me mate. Id happily take Leizpig and inter as the two top teams if it means we progress to next phase
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Yeah, bring on the easiest draw possible, we can play the ‘glamour’ ties in the latter stages.
Bloody exciting though.
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I'm really excited by this draw I'm like a kid in a sweet shop.
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
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I'm really excited by this draw I'm like a kid in a sweet shop.
Let's hope it's not parma violets we grab, though!
Urgh.
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Probably the bigger capacity stadiums like bernabeau or nou camp
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Probably the bigger capacity stadiums like bernabeau or nou camp
Barcelona are playing elsewhere mate while they do up the ground for the next two years.
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Useless kit-stealing twats.
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Probably the bigger capacity stadiums like bernabeau or nou camp
Barcelona are playing elsewhere mate while they do up the ground for the next two years.
Oh really didnt know that! Doesnt make the game away as appealing if we have to play them be great if that was at villa park
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Barcelona are playing in the Lluís Companys Olympic Stadium while the renovation work takes place.
They are due back in the Camp Nou at the end of November 24, albeit at 50% capacity, which is around 60,000 seats.
Source. Gooooooooogle.
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I think you get about 3,800 seats at the Bernabau which is the highest allocation for an away game barring a final appearance.
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We could be in for some epic nights this season
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I'd be happy with a mix - We're not going to win it, but we need the last 16/quarters to be achievable.
Saw an article based on the maths behind the new format, and the guy that came up with it reckons that 7-8 points should be enough to progress to at least the playoff stage. Based on that, I'd say throw the heavyweights at us from Pots 1 and 2, then give us winnable games from Pots 3 and 4.
This is what I'm hoping for:
Pot 1 - Madrid (A), Barca (H)
Pot 2 - AC Milan (A), Juve (H)
Pot 3 - Celtic (A), Young Boys (H)
Pot 4 - Whoever are the shittest!
Trips to Madrid, Milan and Glasgow, plus qualification to the knockouts is all achievable here alongside some blockbuster away trips I reckon!
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Pot 4 - Whoever are the shittest!
You already named them - Celtic
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Pot 4 - Whoever are the shittest!
You already named them - Celtic
Ah, but they're somehow in Pot 3 😉
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^Also worth noting that aside from not being able to face any other English club in the group stage, we can't draw any more than 2 opponents from the same country.
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I think you get about 3,800 seats at the Bernabau which is the highest allocation for an away game barring a final appearance.
...for which we'd get 5,200, the rest all going to UEFA's corporate partners.
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Actually think Barca would be one of the easier Pot 1 teams that we could draw.
Wouldn't mind drawing Slovan Bratislava 8 times, think we'd get through then....
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I'd be happy with a mix - We're not going to win it, but we need the last 16/quarters to be achievable.
Saw an article based on the maths behind the new format, and the guy that came up with it reckons that 7-8 points should be enough to progress to at least the playoff stage. Based on that, I'd say throw the heavyweights at us from Pots 1 and 2, then give us winnable games from Pots 3 and 4.
This is what I'm hoping for:
Pot 1 - Madrid (A), Barca (H)
Pot 2 - AC Milan (A), Juve (H)
Pot 3 - Celtic (A), Young Boys (H)
Pot 4 - Whoever are the shittest!
Trips to Madrid, Milan and Glasgow, plus qualification to the knockouts is all achievable here alongside some blockbuster away trips I reckon!
I wouldnt want those pot 1 and 2 as its unlikely we would qualify and get 0 points from those 4. Rather have one tough and one possible get something e.g Leizpig
Celtic park will be tough place to go id rather have that one at home if need be
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
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Can somebody with a bigger brain please tell me... do the pots actually make a difference now?
You've got to play two from each pot anyway, so what is the advantage in being in a higher pot?
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The only difference is segregating the better / more European experienced teams out for easier drawing.
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
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Is there any rhyme or reason for playing on a Tuesday or Wednesday? As we're one of the gimp teams are we more likely to get Wednesday?
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Is there any rhyme or reason for playing on a Tuesday or Wednesday? As we're one of the gimp teams are we more likely to get Wednesday?
Given we'll be playing some of the 'non-gimp' teams, probably not.
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Thanks!
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Is there any rhyme or reason for playing on a Tuesday or Wednesday? As we're one of the gimp teams are we more likely to get Wednesday?
It's usually a 50/50 split, so if you play on Wednesday one week you'll likely play on Tuesday the next, and vice versa. This is slightly complicated this season as there is one "exclusive" Champions League week where fixtures are spread across Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
There is no seeding to decide which teams play on which day, though, if that's what you're suggesting. The only way they amend the format is to ensure that an even number of teams from each country are playing on each day. They also stop clubs from the same city and especially the same ground playing at home at the same time.
So, there will be two English clubs playing on Tuesday and two on Wednesday, with the exception of the one Tuesday-Thursday week I mentioned, up until the final set of games which are all on a Wednesday.
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
Yep, keep your powder dry for Saturday.
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Is there any rhyme or reason for playing on a Tuesday or Wednesday? As we're one of the gimp teams are we more likely to get Wednesday?
It's usually a 50/50 split, so if you play on Wednesday one week you'll likely play on Tuesday the next, and vice versa. This is slightly complicated this season as there is one "exclusive" Champions League week where fixtures are spread across Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
There is no seeding to decide which teams play on which day, though, if that's what you're suggesting. The only way they amend the format is to ensure that an even number of teams from each country are playing on each day. They also stop clubs from the same city and especially the same ground playing at home at the same time.
So, there will be two English clubs playing on Tuesday and two on Wednesday, with the exception of the one Tuesday-Thursday week I mentioned, up until the final set of games which are all on a Wednesday.
Ta. Yeah I was wondering if pot 1 teams would get their home games on Tuesday where possible, or some type of rule like that.
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Nope.
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Could really do with not being at home on Wednesday 27th November, please, because I'm away. If we get Real Madrid that day I'll be seething.
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Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
Yep, keep your powder dry for Saturday.
Ads is going to have a busy Saturday.
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So, there will be two English clubs playing on Tuesday and two on Wednesday, with the exception of the one Tuesday-Thursday week I mentioned, up until the final set of games which are all on a Wednesday.
I expect 4 either end of the table to have nothing to play for, but that still means 24 teams trying to qualify for the chance of the next round / favourable draw on that last day. It will definitely mean looking at lots of permutations throughout the night.
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I hope Unai Emery has better phone signal at Villa Park than I do.
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Champions League group phase
Matchday 1: 17–19 September 2024
Matchday 2: 1-2 October 2024
Matchday 3: 22-23 October 2024
Matchday 4: 5-6 November 2024
Matchday 5: 26-27 November 2024
Matchday 6: 10-11 December 2024
Matchday 7: 21-22 January 2025
Matchday 8: 29 January 2025
Knockout round play-offs: 11-12 and 18-19 February 2025
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Away allocation is only 5% of capacity.
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Without the bespoke software, an old-fashioned manual draw for the expanded competition would take four hours and require up to 1,000 balls and 36 glass bowls.
Will the draw be safe and fair?
UEFA is confident the draw in Monaco is safe from the threat of cyberattack. The software which will conduct Thursday's draw was developed by UK IT company AE Live.
To ensure safety and fairness there will also be two backup software systems and the draw will be audited by accountancy firm Ernst & Young.
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Away allocation is only 5% of capacity.
I cant be arsed to do the research to put it all in a spreadsheet.
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I assume the play-offs won't be as simple as something like 9th play 17th and so on as there's the chance 2 clubs from the same country could finish in those places.
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Which grounds give the highest away allocation? Anyone know?
Away allocation is only 5% of capacity.
I cant be arsed to do the research to put it all in a spreadsheet.
Isn't that why we allow accountants on here?
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Ernst & Young...didn't they bugger-up the Oscars best picture reveal the other year?
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Ernst & Young...didn't they bugger-up the Oscars best picture reveal the other year?
No, that was PwC. Of course, they haven't been the same since they merged with Price Waterhouse and ceased being called Coopers & Lybrand.
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Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
Yep, keep your powder dry for Saturday.
Ads is going to have a busy Saturday.
Training in the morning, Oasis tickets, booking flights, travelling to Leicester. I need a PA.
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I assume the play-offs won't be as simple as something like 9th play 17th and so on as there's the chance 2 clubs from the same country could finish in those places.
9th OR 10th play 23rd OR 24th, 11/12v21/22 etc which gives UEFA the chance of keeping teams apart where needed, although that would be for political rather than geographical reasons I expect.
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Asking the Man U fans at work "What time is the CL draw on?"
Then giving them the response, "Oh yeah, sorry you wouldn't know."
Then tomorrow i will ask the same ones, "Who did you get in the CL?"
Petty, but good fun.
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Live on Amazon Prime if you didn't know already.
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And on the Beeb it seems from 5pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/ckg2zrv4mxvt
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its the opera eurovision song contest
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🔴🔵 Here We Go! 8)
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I was looking for Peter Withe , did I miss it?
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You don't get opera and a bit of Katherine Jenkins to start the Carabao Cup draw. We've hit the big time.
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Exciting, isn't it? :D
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So tonight we will know the 4 travel to cities. Saturday is when to travel.
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You don't get a bit of Katherine Jenkins. and opera to start the Carabao Cup draw. We've hit the big time.
I was expecting Charlotte Church. for that.
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I was looking for Peter Withe , did I miss it?
As long as he didn't.
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So tonight we will know the 4 travel to cities. Saturday is when to travel.
Yep.
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Qarabag at home.
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Just do the draw you boring twats.
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Sod the President's Award, get those balls rolling (as the actress said to the bishop)!
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Total Network Solution’s away.
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Celtic at home.
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Yes Gigi, but has he won the European Cup?
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Sporting away, Benfica at home for starters.
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Qarabag at home.
Alas no as they quit last night.
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Knowing our luck we will get Manchester United
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Sporting away, Benfica at home for starters.
Bromsgrove Sporting aren't in it.
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How long before we actually find out our first opponents once we've finished sitting through UEFA sniffing their own farts? I'm going with 47 minutes.
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
So we don’t even know which club which game week at all tonight?
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Yes Gigi, but has he won the European Cup?
Not keen on his shoes either. Look like something he got from Pavers.
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How long before we actually find out our first opponents once we've finished sitting through UEFA sniffing their own farts? I'm going with 47 minutes.
Also would like to know, need to get back to work!
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Oh I'm so pleased they found a way to shoehorn Man U into the draw even though they haven't qualified.
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And here to make CDBF's night, it's CR7.
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Oh god now we’re going to be fellating Ronaldo for 20 minutes. Get on with it FFS
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How long before we actually find out our first opponents once we've finished sitting through UEFA sniffing their own farts? I'm going with 47 minutes.
After 6 pm I'd say.
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Diving rat.
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Oh god now we’re going to be fellating Ronaldo for 20 minutes. Get on with it FFS
Enjoy the ride. Embrace it.
We have waited a long time for this….I’m going to savour every second
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Is Ronaldo wearing a can pull tab thing as an earring?
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And here to make CDBF's night, it's CR7.
He's probably knocking one off right now.
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Got it on BBC iPlayer on the phone so I going to do a bit of cleaning for the next hour before the wife comes back tomorrow
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
So we don’t even know which club which game week at all tonight?
Apparently not but it’ll pop up somewhere on Saturday at some point. I don’t say that with any confidence but I reckon I’ll be booking flights, along with many others at half time at Leicester.
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Oh god now we’re going to be fellating Ronaldo for 20 minutes. Get on with it FFS
Enjoy the ride. Embrace it.
We have waited a long time for this….I’m going to savour every second
I could live with Buffon but Ronaldo sheesh it’s difficult.
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And here to make CDBF's night, it's CR7.
He's probably knocking one off right now.
I did notice he'd gone a bit quiet on here.
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Cris has such charisma. What a dreamboat.
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Come on, gerron with it
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its the rimming Ronaldo hour.
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What the fuck is this shit?!
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I love when people who wear dresses match the colour with their eye shadow.
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For the final time I think, does anyone know when the draw is? ;D
Draw is 5pm tonight (UK Time). We'll find out our 8 opponents and whether each tie is home or away.
We won't find out WHEN we play them until Saturday, which is when the actual fixture calendar is released (*Haven't been able to find out what time on Saturday yet - Hopefully in the morning before I depart for Leicester!).
Ah ok, so no booking flights tonight then!
So we don’t even know which club which game week at all tonight?
Apparently not but it’ll pop up somewhere on Saturday at some point. I don’t say that with any confidence but I reckon I’ll be booking flights, along with many others at half time at Leicester.
Thanks.
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I think I’d prefer the 36 bowl, four hour option to this cringe inducing nonsense
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Diving rat.
Saka's there?
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Could this be any more sycophantic?
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Cris has such charisma. What a dreamboat.
No he's not!
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This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
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What a load of bollox!
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What the fuck is this shit?!
It's just like watching The West Wing, only UEFA style.
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This is so cringe
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Some could suck the joy out of Christmas.
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Fuck me - they like to milk it dont they
Without being xenophobic the Europeans really don't do humour do they?
Attempts at little jokes etc makes me wince - so embarrassing
Its such a great league the bloke they just rewarded pissed off to play in the desert for money
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Cringe inducing bollocks
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I wonder what the budget for that "short" was.
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I think i'd prefer us not to have qualified after watching this shit.
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The applause was pretty desultory, very polite
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I love when people who wear dresses match the colour with their eye shadow.
I thought that was a nice touch too.
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I'm almost beginning to wish Spurs had nicked 4th place.
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F*ck me , this is like watching one of them Ant & Dec skits on Saturday Night Takeaway .
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I shouldn't have needed to rush back from the shops after all, and that dress is horrible!
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Got it on BBC iPlayer on the phone so I going to do a bit of cleaning for the next hour before the wife comes back tomorrow
Surely she would want to do that herself upon return?
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Sam Fox and Mick Fleetwood were better than this.
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is that the woman sven used to play with?
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They are now going to explain how the balls get spun in the bowls
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I wonder how much of an entourage we've sent and who's been taking training today.
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Are we going to put up with this shit every year? Hope so.
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not this bloke again? gerry Anderson puppet
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Without being xenophobic the Europeans really don't do humour do they?
That's probably the funniest thing ever said by an Englishman. ;)
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I thought that was Ranieri for a minute.
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I wonder how much of an entourage we've sent and who's been taking training today.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWKSqfuWQAAmTHo?format=jpg&name=large)
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is that the woman sven used to play with?
You'll have narrow it down a bit.
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I'm amazed Ronaldo has stayed on his feet for so long.
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Ooh Ranieri name-checked us!
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Nice name check for us.
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Nassefs there!
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I love when people who wear dresses match the colour with their eye shadow.
I thought that was a nice touch too.
Yes Ceferin is a natty dresser.
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Nice to see us get a mention there and images of Monchi and co. But honestly, if we weren't in it it would be off by now!
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Cheers TV. Good man Unai, eyes firmly on Lesta.
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I thought that was Ranieri for a minute.
So did I for a moment. :)
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I don't know how any of you watch this live. I'll just wait for the notification off my phone.
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I thought that was Ranieri for a minute.
its an AI one
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To summarise the draw procedure………that’s Numberwang
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Do we know what time on Saturday? I’m erm offline at a buddhist retreat centre, 10yr ordination reunion. Common problem on H&V I know.
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I knew it was gonna be bad, but never this bad.
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Just get on with it!
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I’m loving this.
Because we are in it.
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Ooo! This could be it!
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30min of fluff
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I wonder how much of an entourage we've sent and who's been taking training today.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWKSqfuWQAAmTHo?format=jpg&name=large)
Heck's there as well but Sawiris has told him to fuck off and get the drinks in.
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Man City first name out
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I think the computer has crashed
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Fucking hell, they’re gonna make this go on for a long time
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Damn, I wanted Inter.
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Real looks on for us
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Lovely easy route for citeh. Not suspicious
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It’s not a draw….it’s a journey
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Away vs:
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BAYERN!
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Vincent Kompany's Bayern Munich at home.
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Bayern home
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Group of Death
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Man City first name out
They warmed the wrong Manchester ball!
We've got the 1982 Runners Up! ;)
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Munich at home
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Oooh Bayern
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Is that the first match?
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Mumich at home !!
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Away vs:
Leipzig
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Bayern at home
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Leipzig away
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Bayern! It had to be!
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Is that the first match?
No one knows till Saturday
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2 German teams, boring.
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leipzig a way
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Ron looks absolutely thrilled to be there
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Very happy with that !
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Nothing more for us till pot 2 now
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Not bad to get those two out of Pot 1
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2 German teams, boring.
No Dortmund though.
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Do I detect a German trend?
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Sausages all round so far.
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2 German teams, boring.
Don't chat shit, two fucking brilliant games there.
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Migraine come back again
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Easy for Barcelona there
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Ouch for dortmund
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Thats a shite pot 1 away draw. Possibly the least inspiring out of the lot. :(
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we can do Leipzig :)
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Tough gis for Liverpool
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2 German teams, boring.
Don't chat shit, two fucking brilliant games there.
I think he's only messin'
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Tricky fixtures for Real Madrid and Liverpool.
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As well as some flash ties, we want to progress, happy with it so far.
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Madrid have some toughies
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Oooh tough for Liverpool
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Madrid tough draw
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Ouch liverpool
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PSG have tough fixtures
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Bayern Munich - ah like Wycombe yesterday - we haven't played them before, have we?
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Tough for PSG
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We have a 100% record against Bayern
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This might have taken a while without the computers.
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Tricky fixtures for Real Madrid and Liverpool.
Good! ;)
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We have a 100% record against Bayern
Yeah but Cain is always able to score against us.
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Might as well book the Berlin hotels now.
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Bring Them On
Munch the Munchen
Look at Franco Madrid certainly wasn't rigged for them. This year.
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We miss out on a trip to Madrid
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At least we cabt draw Leverkusen
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No loss avoiding Atlético Madrid.
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I’d quite like Celtic
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Brugge
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
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Brugge away
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Get in, Brugge.
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No trip to the US to play Atalanta, which is a shame.
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Brugge, lovely
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I bet we get juve
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Nice
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Brugge away. Maybe we’ll meet the 5000 noses still there
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Unless we take more than 50k we'll never live it down.
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Brugge away!
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Thats a lovely draw for us!
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thats a good draw for us
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Good draw for us so far.
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We miss out on a trip to Madrid
next round in knockout
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(https://y.yarn.co/a4f4128f-ce19-464d-aef3-0e9ff848d256_text.gif)
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Nice draw so far 👍
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Shakhtar or Juve left
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Bill Nighy looked pleased at that draw
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It's going to be Juve, isn't it? And it is.
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
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Juve home*
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Juve home
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obviously.
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Juve at home, take it.
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Juve at home
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Oooh
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oooooh Juve at Villa Park!!!
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Fuck my old boots I want to win that.
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Tough home, not too bad away. Would probably rather have it the other way round but will be exciting, at least.
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Juventus again, ffs. Boring.
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Juve! Bostin'!
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oooooh Juve at Villa Park!!!
Foo Fighters?
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I knew it we would get juve
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oooooh Juve at Villa Park!!!
Just need to bring back Terry.
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Meeting Dougie again!
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Been waiting a long time for revenge against Juve.
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dougie cant believe it
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Juventus again, ffs. Boring.
Are you serious???? Thats a brilliant tie at home
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Good teams at home and shitter teams away is good so far
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Juve aren't the Juve of old. That's not a terrible draw.
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Now a break for some ‘banter’
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Not too bad for Pots 1 and 2.
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Juventus again, ffs. Boring.
Are you serious???? Thats a brilliant tie at home
Clearly he isn’t.
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Juventus again, ffs. Boring.
Are you serious???? Thats a brilliant tie at home
I thought he was messin' but now I know he is.
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Good draw so far. Celtic and Sporting now, please.
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Bayern and Juventus at home. Chris Heck just put another zero at the end of the ticket prices.
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Not Celtic and not Lille please
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Chris Heck on Twitter:
‘82 rematch at Villa Park…it’s almost like we planned it @ChampionsLeague @AVFCOfficial @FCBuyernMunich
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Monaco away please.
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Box-office home opposition. Beatable aways. Can't argue with that so far.
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Are games played in order of the draw?
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Great draw...tremendous symmetry from the old days...82 & 83.
I think we are going to get Celtic.
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
Young Boys
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Berne away
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Are games played in order of the draw?
No
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Didn’t want Young Boys they looked really good the other night
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Juventus again, ffs. Boring.
Are you serious???? Thats a brilliant tie at home
Clearly he isn’t.
I wasnt sure hence why i asked 😁
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That’s a winnable away
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Lille are screwed.
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Happy with young boys
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Villa at the Wankdorf
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huw edwards fave team
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we can look forward to Harry Kane diving to win a penalty again this season. Joy
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Didn’t want Young Boys they looked really good the other night
Same here.
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Our two toughest opponents are at home by the looks of it.
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The draw could have been way worse. It's been pretty solid so far. The job is to qualify out of this stage. We can have a glamour tie in the final.
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Looking like Celtic
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Could be Celtic
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Celtic
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
Young Boys
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Celtic home
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Celtic here
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McGinn will be thrilled.
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Its celtic or sportin at home
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Boom,happy with them
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Yesss, home to Celtic.
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Good teams at home and shitter teams away is good so far
I am not sure that is the best way round. Shitter teams at home, easier to get some points on the board, and at least qualify for the 9th to 24th position playoffs.
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Bollocks, didn't want those twats at VP.
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Just knew it. Thats going to be tough and spicy
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Brilliant
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Great, will be surrounded by twats singing about the bloody King all game.
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Blimey the games at VP are absolute box office.
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Brugge away. Could pick up a few lost noses and help them home.
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Just knew it. Thats going to be tough and spicy
No it won't, we'll batter them.
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fuck off with these questions to "Cristiano"
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Very happy we meet Bayern from first pot
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We can get in the top 24
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If only the games were the other around ffs. Would have like brugges leizip at home
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Great draw for us, both in relation to big names and chances of progressing.
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That is three magical nights lined up.
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Bologna away now please.
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Are games played in order of the draw?
Impossible. Each two teams in a match will have been drawn in different orders.
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Just knew it. Thats going to be tough and spicy
No it won't, we'll batter them.
It wont be as easy as you think
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Last 16 here we come
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All winnable games for 2024s Aston Villa. It’s great to be back where we belong isn’t it.
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Bologna
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Celtic
Bologna
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
Young Boys
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Baloney it's Bologna
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Ffs the team i wanted to avoid
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Celtic
Bologna
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
Young Boys
Monaco
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Celtic will be a good test of the Witton Lane Upper concourse.
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Bah! Drew Bologna, but at VP. Could've made that one if it were away.
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Final away Monaco
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Bologna would have been great away - lovely place
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Fuck yeah! I'll be at that one.
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Fourth seeds a nightmare, will be very tough.
Did we include a clause preventing Iling-Junior from playing against us?
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The tough toughest games we could have got in pot 4. Bollocks
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Bah! Drew Bologna, but at VP. Could've made that one if it were away.
Same here, my cousin lives in Bologna so had free accommodation.
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I expect nothing less than 24 points.
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Very good draw. No Baltic hooligans
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Happy Withe the draw overall.
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Magic, bring it on!
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Overall a fantastic draw.
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Fantastic draw!
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Great - now just to find out how many kidneys I need to sell for the tickets
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Not a bad draw, should do well.
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Great draw.
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Excellent draw all told. I look forward to it.
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Pleased with that. Some big boys, but facing them at home.
Got every chance.
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Should make for an interesting few months :) hopefully be able to make a few of those
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Happy Withe the draw overall.
Withe Evans help, we're shaw to win the whole damn thing.
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I have a Bologna FC cap, a memento of my visit to that lovely city.
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Seriously top 3 home games couldn't have been scripted better.
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Hopefully, the decorating will be finished in the Witton by the time Bayern Munich rock up.
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If we can't finish 24th or better from that draw we'll have done really poorly.
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Fantastic draws for us.
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Home vs:
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Celtic
Bologna
Away vs:
Leipzig
Club Brugge
Young Boys
Monaco
16 points from this lot. Finish 10th.
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Our game aside obviously, Celtic got a very good draw
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Hopefully, the decorating will be finished in the Witton by the time Bayern Munich rock up.
Not if thy come after Celtic, it will be a demolition site.
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So why are we waiting 'till Sat for the dates?
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The two home games I least wanted were Celtic (will bring out the worst in our support) and Bologna (because I like them). Never mind.
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Ive approached this thing from the point of view of this may be the only time in life that I'll get to see Villa at this level - and happy with that draw.
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So why are we waiting 'till Sat for the dates?
Security implications presumably.
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Would 9 points be enough?
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Looks like Bologna and Young Boys haven’t had good starts to the season.
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Brilliant draw, home draw superb, and some aways where we won't have huge crowds to contend with. Home ties will be electric, hope Dougie gets a good reception
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Celtic will be lively and playing Bayern and Juventus is fantastic given the history from 82-83.
12-14 points needs to be the target overall I would guess.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
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Brilliant! That's why endured those dark days in the Championship to live this dream.
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So why are we waiting 'till Sat for the dates?
Fixtures dependencies with other competitions clearance and of course the paymasters, TV companies, having their say.
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Leipzig is good at least as with the friendly unai knows what to expect.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes - Coutinho played against Barcelona when he was on loan at Bayern.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes I believe so, allowed in all UEFA competitions
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Juventus is fantastic given the history from 82-83.
Quite fitting given that they were the last club we played in Europe's elite company.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
Presumably it depends if we put a clause in saying he can't. Hopefully we did. Be a bit daft otherwise, especially considering the aforementioned Coutinho ran riot against Barcelona.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
Presumably it depends if we put a clause in saying he can't. Hopefully we did. Be a bit daft otherwise, especially considering the aforementioned Coutinho ran riot against Barcelona.
I don't think such clauses are allowed by UEFA.
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Well this is what most of you have dreamed about since football started in 92. For me please win the FA cup please Villa.
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Interesting draw. Some big games and very winnable ones too.
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Brilliant draw.
Glamour home ties.
Some exciting away trips to Brugge and Monte Carlo.
Huge chance of progression if 3-4 wins is enough.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
Presumably it depends if we put a clause in saying he can't. Hopefully we did. Be a bit daft otherwise, especially considering the aforementioned Coutinho ran riot against Barcelona.
I don't think such clauses are allowed by UEFA.
We can just make an agreement and bot bother asking those twats. Bologna are decent sorts, they wouldn't go back on their word I'm sure.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
I liked Bern.. and Monaco sure seems nice.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
Thanks for confirming mate. God thats going to be a nightmare for him and us. Imagine he scores!
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
This is gonna be the new version of whatever the new 'why didn't Barry take the pen?' was.
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Huge chance of progression if 3-4 wins is enough.
BBC reckon:
They reckon two wins and two draws from eight games should get you a place in the play-off round before the last 16.
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Can illing jr play against us ? Anyone know ?
Yes he can. Coutinho played for Bayern against Barcelona
This is gonna be the new version of whatever the new 'why didn't Barry take the pen?' was.
On a positive note Chelsea lent Courtois to Athletic in 2014 and he was MOTM in 2nd leg of SF thereby denying Moaninho another final.
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Don't Monaco famously have tiny crowds? You'd imagine there would be ways for plenty of Villa fans to get tickets for that if they were so inclined.
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I cant be arsed to do the research to put it all in a spreadsheet.
Come on AV82EC you can tell about possible flights and best UK airports for flying to Berne, Leipzig, Monaco and Brugge?
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hopefully this will make at least one more signing ( right back) easier.
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Chris Heck thinking about ticket prices for the home games
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some cracking games there
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There is a weekend league fixtures after all 8 European games. In order they are...
Wolves (H)
Man U (H)
Bournemouth (H)
Liverpool (A)
Chelsea (A)
Forest (A)
West Ham (H)
Wolves (A)
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything. I bet you’ve got a 12 inch cock and wish it would be thicker!
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Other than the shit with Zalatan and Ceferin I liked everything about this format and the the draw. Well done UEFA.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
I liked Bern.. and Monaco sure seems nice.
Soulless places. I wanted a Madrid, Munich, Milan type away game to fly over for. Tiny grounds with zero chance of a ticket in either end. Oh well, have to wait for the knockouts.
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A good thing is no away trips to the arse end of nowhere. All pretty easy travel for the team.
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Ive approached this thing from the point of view of this may be the only time in life that I'll get to see Villa at this level - and happy with that draw.
You need to change your name to Beard25 then
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
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Don't Monaco famously have tiny crowds? You'd imagine there would be ways for plenty of Villa fans to get tickets for that if they were so inclined.
They do, but it's only a 16,000 capacity. Not great.
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A good thing is no away trips to the arse end of nowhere. All pretty easy travel for the team.
Tbh, there's no difficult places for a PL team to travel to within Europe (which is tiny) on their private jet.
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Kind of proving his clearly lighthearted point.
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Celtic at Home will be tasty
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
I liked Bern.. and Monaco sure seems nice.
Soulless places. I wanted a Madrid, Munich, Milan type away game to fly over for. Tiny grounds with zero chance of a ticket in either end. Oh well, have to wait for the knockouts.
haha, okay. I’ll take winnable away matches over ritzy towns any day of the week.
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
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I'm sure the people that have to go to every single away game won't mind missing one or two so a few other people have a chance to attend.
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Well this is what most of you have dreamed about since football started in 92. For me please win the FA cup please Villa.
You're not alone in that!
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks for that. I was down a few rabbit holes in Wiki looking for info. I should be alright for tickets to 3 of those as long as they take last years credits into account. Time to get the planning head on for Saturday.
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I'm sure the people that have to go to every single away game won't mind missing one or two so a few other people have a chance to attend.
Ah... NO. ;)
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A good thing is no away trips to the arse end of nowhere. All pretty easy travel for the team.
Tbh, there's no difficult places for a PL team to travel to within Europe (which is tiny) on their private jet.
well I wouldn't fancy the trip to the Ukraine.
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I just based it on 5% of their capacity rather than trying to track down actual allocations given before, but i'm assuming it won't be far off those numbers.
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks for that. I was down a few rabbit holes in Wiki looking for info. I should be alright for tickets to 3 of those as long as they take last years credits into account. Time to get the planning head on for Saturday.
It will be best if first away is Monte Carlo.
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I've done a bit of maths and reckon that to get in the playoffs you'll need 8-9 points and top 8 will be 14-15 points. Goal diff and goals scored will also be important due to the number of teams likely to get similar points.
Looking at our games I think we could get 6-7 points both home and away but we are very low on experience at this level. Could be worth a couple of experienced loans to help close games out.
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So what we think for home ticket prices then £100+ to start ?
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks for that. I was down a few rabbit holes in Wiki looking for info. I should be alright for tickets to 3 of those as long as they take last years credits into account. Time to get the planning head on for Saturday.
It will be best if first away is Monte Carlo.
Quite agree. I'm not interested in going to that soulless concrete shithole, which applies to the stadium and the town.
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There's a cap of 70 Euros for away tickets, I don't think there's a cap for home but I assume we'll be £60-70 for standard adult tickets.
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Celtic at Home will be tasty
What like Hibs was tasty?
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It will be the same as category A for league I would have thought. Will be pissed off if it's any more but perhaps that wouldn't be a surprise.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
I liked Bern..
I'm looking forward to visiting the Large Hadron Collider there.
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I’m guessing a 4 match pack for £200 for my seat WL upper.
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Bit of a difference between Hibs in the Conference and Celtic in the CL. Especially given some of our more 'exciteable' fans are strongly in the JFT21 group.
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It will be the same as category A for league I would have thought. Will be pissed off if it's any more but perhaps that wouldn't be a surprise.
Im working on the basis of 100 per game - maybe a package that brings it down slightly
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Those who wanted more `glamorous` away games rather than more winnable games is a bit like when non league teams understandably want Man U away in the 3rd round of the Cup.
We are in this as serious contenders, not for a bit of glamour and reflected glory.
If we don't win it (at least not this season maybe) we are there to finish as high as we can in this league, qualify and goes as deep in the tournament as possible.
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Fantastic games at the Villa but very disappointed we didn’t get 1 decent away game.
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks. I think I just realised I’m unlikely to get any, ST who did Lille & Ajax which obviously had much bigger allocations, can anyone guesstimate how many are likely to have done more euro aways to be in higher categories? I fancied Bruges but I guess so would everyone. I wouldn’t go without a Villa ticket.
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I think it's a good mix of glamour ties and winnable ties.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
I liked Bern.. and Monaco sure seems nice.
Soulless places. I wanted a Madrid, Munich, Milan type away game to fly over for. Tiny grounds with zero chance of a ticket in either end. Oh well, have to wait for the knockouts.
Milan isn't great tbh, although I would have loved to have got AC.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
Bit weird.
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Fantastic games at the Villa but very disappointed we didn’t get 1 decent away game.
There'll no doubt be something, somewhere interesting in the next round. Besides, I thought the plan was to be in Europe every season?
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Main thing is finishing top 24 and we should do that with the draw we've had.
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
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Yep. Will be disappointed if we don't get one dead good famous win against one of the two "big" clubs we've drawn, though. Obviously Celtic are a big club and so were Bologna in their day, but I mean big in terms of the sort or teams that usually compete to win the trophy.
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Don't Monaco famously have tiny crowds? You'd imagine there would be ways for plenty of Villa fans to get tickets for that if they were so inclined.
They do, but it's only a 16,000 capacity. Not great.
Oh really?? I thought they had a massive stadium. That makes it abit better then
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It's a decent enough draw and it's what we've been waiting for and fucking deserve. I can't wait.
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For fans who wanted a European adventure it’s pretty poor with very limited ticket availability.
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
Interesting. The so called elite are all going to under estimate us
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For fans who wanted a European adventure it’s pretty poor with very limited ticket availability.
same old faces anyway
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks. I think I just realised I’m unlikely to get any, ST who did Lille & Ajax which obviously had much bigger allocations, can anyone guesstimate how many are likely to have done more euro aways to be in higher categories? I fancied Bruges but I guess so would everyone. I wouldn’t go without a Villa ticket.
You should be ok for Leipzig.
My probably wildly inaccurate guess on away ticket numbers would be
6 aways about 400 people
5 aways about 200 people
4 aways about 500 people
3 aways about 500 people
2 aways and 1 away about another 1000-1500
But as i said that's a guess on my part.
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There's a cap of 70 Euros for away tickets, I don't think there's a cap for home but I assume we'll be £60-70 for standard adult tickets.
When tickets in the upper north are best part of £70 for Wolves I can easily see another £20-£30 on top of that for Bayern, Juve and probably Celtic.
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
Interesting. The so called elite are all going to under estimate us
Who are MUTU?
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Just being in this historic draw was unreal.
Home fixtures are amazing!!
Its not even out of reach to get to the 16 team playoffs!
How can anyone Villa even think about theses games and not just go orgasmic!?
The top fixture 24/25 is not Blues. Its not Wolves. Its beating the crap out of Bayern!
And its not a sleeping Friendly!
Cant wait! Schedule on Saturday ?
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I think on reflection now the dust has settled its mot a bad draw at all. Could have been much worse. We avoided the big guns [madrid barce PSG]
I do worry about the squad size though. We have 8 games [2 extra than the conference] and it could be 10 if we get to play offs.
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
They still haven't forgiven us.
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Looking at away allocations, they do tend to stick to the 5% from what I can see.
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"Back in the big time" the woman said which I found a bit patronising. We'd have been it it three other times in my life time if the tournament had been for 2nd-4th place in the 1990s. We will probably seen as cannon fodder or minnows to a lot of those clubs supporters.
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We aren't missing a trick. At the end of the CL draw article on the OS is this
Seasonal Hospitality Packages
Secure your seat for all Champions League games at Villa Park via a seasonal hospitality package for the 2024/25 season.
Supporters can still purchase packages in the 150 Club, Legends Lounge and The Oak Room, with all Premier League, domestic cup and Champions League fixtures at Villa Park included.
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There's a cap of 70 Euros for away tickets, I don't think there's a cap for home but I assume we'll be £60-70 for standard adult tickets.
When tickets in the upper north are best part of £70 for Wolves I can easily see another £20-£30 on top of that for Bayern, Juve and probably Celtic.
TV it is then if thats the case
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"Back in the big time" the woman said which I found a bit patronising. We'd have been it it three other times in my life time if the tournament had been for 2nd-4th place in the 1990s. We will probably seen as cannon fodder or minnows to a lot of those clubs supporters.
The club saying "back where we belong" is pretty iffy. We've been in it twice before, we're hardly some fallen former regulars.
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I’m guessing a 4 match pack for £200 for my seat WL upper.
I would describe that as optimistic.
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With Eric dier in defence and Kompany in charge, we can definatly get something from this game.
looking forward to all these glamour ties!
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
They still haven't forgiven us.
They've reason to be bitter.
Prior to that game, their record in cup finals was:
Intercontinental Cup: Played 2, Won 2, Lost 0
European Cup: Played 3, Won 3, Lost 0
European Cup Winners Cup: Played 1, Won 1, Lost 0
German League Championship (when concluded by a knockout tournament): Played 1, Won 1, Lost 0
German Cup: Played 6, Won 6, Lost 0
Overall: Played 13, Won 13, Lost 0.
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A good thing is no away trips to the arse end of nowhere. All pretty easy travel for the team.
Tbh, there's no difficult places for a PL team to travel to within Europe (which is tiny) on their private jet.
well I wouldn't fancy the trip to the Ukraine.
There are no games in Ukraine q
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
Bit weird.
Preferring Madrid or Milan is a bit weird?
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Stu, will you stop being the thought police, please? You'll be locking people up for saying they're English again, next.
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks. I think I just realised I’m unlikely to get any, ST who did Lille & Ajax which obviously had much bigger allocations, can anyone guesstimate how many are likely to have done more euro aways to be in higher categories? I fancied Bruges but I guess so would everyone. I wouldn’t go without a Villa ticket.
You should be ok for Leipzig.
My probably wildly inaccurate guess on away ticket numbers would be
6 aways about 400 people
5 aways about 200 people
4 aways about 500 people
3 aways about 500 people
2 aways and 1 away about another 1000-1500
But as i said that's a guess on my part.
Thanks for taking the time, will give it some thought. I try not to fly so the cheap coach from london for Bruges caught my eye but seems unlikely. You never know!
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Monaco is a good away. Cheap hotels and ale. Nice pies
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
But i am sure there are better options out there?
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So, 3 points guaranteed v Celtic, another 3 from Bologna who have not had the best of starts. Bayern and Juve not the teams they used to be (Don’t let Heck persuade you otherwise). Win and a draw from the away matches and then luck of the draw in the play off round.
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Stu, will you stop being the thought police, please? You'll be locking people up for saying they're English again, next.
Non sequitur alert.
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
But i am sure there are better options out there?
All very reasonable. The Good lady reckons there's direct flights to Monaco.
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
But i am sure there are better options out there?
All very reasonable. The Good lady reckons there's direct flights to Monaco.
Nice is on all the Easyjet routes though - will be a lot cheaper and easier.
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Likely cheaper to stay too.
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
All very reasonable. The Good lady reckons there's direct flights to Monaco.
EasyJet Bristol to Nice is usually reasonable if you get in early.
It's the home games that will be expensive. I bet the buttons on Heck's calculator nearly melted when he saw the home games. It'll be £2 to go in the gents..
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About £4.50 and 21 minute train from Nice to Monaco. Flights from Manchester to Nice looking at £280 for direct.
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About £4.50 and 21 minute train from Nice to Monaco. Flights from Manchester to Nice looking at £280 for direct.
Lovely train journey from Nice to Monaco hugging the Mediterranean
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About £4.50 and 21 minute train from Nice to Monaco. Flights from Manchester to Nice looking at £280 for direct.
Lovely train journey from Nice to Monaco hugging the Mediterranean
Turn your data off on your phone though in Monaco as it’s unlikely to be on any roaming passports. Cost me and the other half £3-400 for a day and we didn’t even use our phones that much!!
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
All very reasonable. The Good lady reckons there's direct flights to Monaco.
EasyJet Bristol to Nice is usually reasonable if you get in early.
It's the home games that will be expensive. I bet the buttons on Heck's calculator nearly melted when he saw the home games. It'll be £2 to go in the gents..
Plus a tenner for hiring wellies.
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Will be interesting to see how they prioritise away ticket sales based on how it panned out last season in the Conference (*Home/Away European attendance)
I wonder if they'll base it on last season's European aways, or just go back to standard domestic aways? Guess we'll find out some time after Saturday when the fixtures are announced, as the first game will only be about 3 weeks away.
Speaking of which, anyone hear any news of WHAT TIME they're releasing fixtures on Saturday?
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
You do.
And yes. I am the Thought Police, 12 incher!
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Excellent Draw. Our manager should not have too much trouble guiding us to the knockout stage. Onwards and upwards!
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So, 3 points guaranteed v Celtic, another 3 from Bologna who have not had the best of starts. Bayern and Juve not the teams they used to be (Don’t let Heck persuade you otherwise). Win and a draw from the away matches and then luck of the draw in the play off round.
Im pretty sure we all thought we would beat olympiakos at VP and that never happened. We cant take anything for granted. Rodgers is no mug it wont be a easy game at all
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Eurostar to Lille Europe. Train from Lille Flanders to Bruges is another option.
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No matter what happens I'm just glad we're back where we belong but if we're gonna do anything exact revenge on Juventus. They ended our reign 41 years ago. Peace Cup doesn't count.
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A favourable draw tempered somewhat by our lack of squad strengthening this summer…to date.
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There's a cap of 70 Euros for away tickets, I don't think there's a cap for home but I assume we'll be £60-70 for standard adult tickets.
When tickets in the upper north are best part of £70 for Wolves I can easily see another £20-£30 on top of that for Bayern, Juve and probably Celtic.
I'd say Season Ticket holders looking at 80 quid. Members nigh on a ton. Neither about 120.
For context (I missed out) my mates went to Barca v Milan which was to be fsir top billing in group stages at the time in 2000 and paid 60 quid at Nou Camp even back then.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
You do.
And yes. I am the Thought Police, 12 incher!
Grow up FFS
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Hope the last games at home
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
It's cup football not Trip Advisor.
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i'm not exactly seeing the favourable draw aspect, these will be tough games
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Be good if order of game was something like this. That would be ideal
A young boys
H Bologna
A brugges
H Juventus
A Leizpig
H Celtic
A Monaco
H Bayern Munich
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
It's cup football not Trip Advisor.
Ah ok. Didn't realise that I am not able to comment on the draw. Apologies. I thought this was a forum and this was the thread to discuss the places we are going to be playing and the teams that play there.
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Just being in this historic draw was unreal.
Home fixtures are amazing!!
Its not even out of reach to get to the 16 team playoffs!
How can anyone Villa even think about theses games and not just go orgasmic!?
The top fixture 24/25 is not Blues. Its not Wolves. Its beating the crap out of Bayern!
And its not a sleeping Friendly!
Cant wait! Schedule on Saturday ?
This is how I feel. Fantastic draw some great and winnable ties. Can’t wait!
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We're 66/1 to win it. Easy money.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
Really?! I've just been having a peak too, and I'd say it was the opposite.... Of the posts I read, they have the Villa Park tie down as one of the most difficult of the lot.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
This is the main reason i didnt want to play them. You just know thousands will turn up ticketless and there will be some trouble
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Eurostar to Paris. TGV to Nice for cheap digs. Travel to Monaco on the rattler.
Mind you, I get free train travel 😉
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
Really?! I've just been having a peak too, and I'd say it was the opposite.... Of the posts I read, they have the Villa Park tie down as one of the most difficult of the lot.
Must have been a different forum as I read only 2 pages and they all expect be beat us.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
You moan at everything.
I do not moan at everything that's utter bollocks. Am I not entitled to have preferred away games or are you the thought police?
You do.
And yes. I am the Thought Police, 12 incher!
Grow up FFS
You silly sausage.
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
It's cup football not Trip Advisor.
Ah ok. Didn't realise that I am not able to comment on the draw. Apologies. I thought this was a forum and this was the thread to discuss the places we are going to be playing and the teams that play there.
You have commented on the draw and I have replied. Nobody has impinged on or restricted your freedom of speech. Calm down!
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How about you all calm down?
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Not happy with the draw. Wanted some amazing away games and we've got 4 absolutely shit ones. Small shitty grounds in crappy places. Bruges is a nice town but meh.
Really wanted a headline away game. At least one.
Oh well, the home games are good at least.
It's cup football not Trip Advisor.
Ah ok. Didn't realise that I am not able to comment on the draw. Apologies. I thought this was a forum and this was the thread to discuss the places we are going to be playing and the teams that play there.
You have commented on the draw and I have replied. Nobody has impinged on or restricted your freedom of speech. Calm down!
I don't say you had. I just replied to your comment about trip advisor as I thought it was a weird thing to say. I was simply commenting on the away games as I intend to travel (a long way) to a few of them. Having travelled to all of the places we have drawn, I can comment based on knowledge, experience and preference that I would rather we had drawn Madrid or Milan.
That's all. I'm not sure why that is such a problem.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
This is the main reason i didnt want to play them. You just know thousands will turn up ticketless and there will be some trouble
I'd imagine WMP will treat it like the Legia Warsaw game in terms of potential trouble, did a terrific job that night. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring 10,000 though. If we turn it on against them and score early I can see us getting 3 or 4, we'd have to have a real off night to lose against them.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
This is the main reason i didnt want to play them. You just know thousands will turn up ticketless and there will be some trouble
I'd imagine WMP will treat it like the Legia Warsaw game in terms of potential trouble, did a terrific job that night. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring 10,000 though. If we turn it on against them and score early I can see us getting 3 or 4, we'd have to have a real off night to lose against them.
We will need to win that game and the Bologna game at home and then YB and Monaco away would see us through. Bruges is winnable too.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
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How about you all calm down?
Yes. I have been behaving like a Twitter turd (now know as X excrement) to Accent. In a very childish way too.
No harm was meant.
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Bayern will be very slick and will probably have most of the possession. Will be a great test for us. Juventus are beatable IMO and so are Celtic and Bologna. I can see us getting at least one away win.
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Yes. I have been behaving like a Twitter turd (now know as X excrement)
Is that a Katie Price reference?
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
This is the main reason i didnt want to play them. You just know thousands will turn up ticketless and there will be some trouble
Yes. Bet WMP are dreading that night, especially if they turn up mouthing off about the pub bombings
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
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i'm not exactly seeing the favourable draw aspect, these will be tough games
They will be tough as they’ve all, Bologna accepted, got a lot more recent European experience than us but considering who we could have got it’s decent. A nice spread of heavyweights and on paper at least winnable games.
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I went on a boat trip in Tenerife and there was a chap there in a Celtic top. He seemed a polite and well-mannered young man.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
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I went on a boat trip in Tenerife and there was a chap there in a Celtic top. He seemed a polite and well-mannered young man.
Not his lucky Celtic top then? *winking face*
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i'm not exactly seeing the favourable draw aspect, these will be tough games
They will be tough as they’ve all, Bologna accepted, got a lot more recent European experience than us but considering who we could have got it’s decent. A nice spread of heavyweights and on paper at least winnable games.
But enough tastiness to excite our squad and get them chomping at the bit for it.
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Have to say that I thought our draw looked more favourable than Arse or Liverpool.
Man City got the easiest looking draw imo.
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Can guarantee there'll be no trouble from Celtic. They leave that to the other lot.
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I went on a boat trip in Tenerife and there was a chap there in a Celtic top. He seemed a polite and well-mannered young man.
My cousin has lived his whole life in Brum and is a Celtic season ticket holder. He provides wealth management advice to high-net-worth individuals, and is also a polite and well-mannered man.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Get yourself to Corby on a Saturday night!
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I'm sure Celtic won't cause any trouble, on or off the pitch. Aren't they just Hibs with hoops ?
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Can I be the first to sing. ‘Stand up if you hate Young Boys….stand up if you hate Young Boys.’
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
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Hmm I’ve just now realised that spaghetti hoops aren’t really spaghetti, are they?
:-[
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No matter what happens I'm just glad we're back where we belong but if we're gonna do anything exact revenge on Juventus. They ended our reign 41 years ago. Peace Cup doesn't count.
I was 9 when we won it in Rotterdam and 10 when we lost to that Juve team.
I never ever care about this type of thing but today we watched draw on YT TNT (after tea) with Missus (born 1983) and my 5 year old.
I said I think we should play Bayern Munich and Juventus as they are 2 teams foremost in our competition history.
I was so pleased with the 3 of the home draws history and sentiment. Hope the Celtic fans behave.
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Celtic forum saying they will batter us and they will qualify in top 8. Best draw they have ever had etc.
also saying they will bring (pick a number between 10 and 25,000) and takeover Brum
3500?
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
Hibs fans were great, very loud despite getting a thrashing by our reserves. Had to laugh at them before the kick off on Witton Lane, so drunk they couldn't remember the words to their own songs.
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Have to say that I thought our draw looked more favourable than Arse or Liverpool.
Man City got the easiest looking draw imo.
I just like the way Real Madrid's looks pretty hard. Where's Franco?
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
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I went on a boat trip in Tenerife and there was a chap there in a Celtic top. He seemed a polite and well-mannered young man.
Yes, they are all like that.Decent chaps the lot of them.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
There was the shit they caused v Rapid Vienna back in 1985 and match was replayed at Old Trafford when some exiled fans caused a bit of bother.
Other than that - some idiots singing about IRA every so often bound to happen. Like their pillock neighbours who seemed to behave themselves in 2008 in Manchester overall when they got to UEFA final
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Eurostar to Lille Europe. Train from Lille Flanders to Bruges is another option.
Cheers. Yes whilst the journey is about 15 minutes longer than Brussels to Brugge you arrive in Lille about 30 minutes earlier so more than makes up time difference.
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
Yes the home games are brilliant..Leipzig is the one away that we may struggle with but certainly not as difficult as they could be.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
There was the shit they caused v Rapid Vienna back in 1985 and match was replayed at Old Trafford when some exiled fans caused a bit of bother.
Other than that - some idiots singing about IRA every so often bound to happen. Like their pillock neighbours who seemed to behave themselves in 2008 in Manchester overall when they got to UEFA final
So nothing this century then, like I said. I'm not sure what "Rangers" have to do with it.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
There was the shit they caused v Rapid Vienna back in 1985 and match was replayed at Old Trafford when some exiled fans caused a bit of bother.
Other than that - some idiots singing about IRA every so often bound to happen. Like their pillock neighbours who seemed to behave themselves in 2008 in Manchester overall when they got to UEFA final
Well other than the rioting, it all went off without a hitch.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
There was the shit they caused v Rapid Vienna back in 1985 and match was replayed at Old Trafford when some exiled fans caused a bit of bother.
Other than that - some idiots singing about IRA every so often bound to happen. Like their pillock neighbours who seemed to behave themselves in 2008 in Manchester overall when they got to UEFA final
So nothing this century then, like I said. I'm not sure what "Rangers" have to do with it.
No. That's my point. I'd hope they can keep it real as they'll be treated well. It isn't the 1970s - well not in England
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well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
There was the shit they caused v Rapid Vienna back in 1985 and match was replayed at Old Trafford when some exiled fans caused a bit of bother.
Other than that - some idiots singing about IRA every so often bound to happen. Like their pillock neighbours who seemed to behave themselves in 2008 in Manchester overall when they got to UEFA final
Well other than the rioting, it all went off without a hitch.
Yes out of 200000 fans present. 40000 in the stadium. Christ I can't stand the Old Firm and their shotty rhetoric but I am well aware that all clubs have pillocks supporting them.
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BBC News reported that a small groups of Rangers supporters had clashed with police in the city centre after a bank was attacked, bus stop and a sports car which was bounced over the road.[2] Greater Manchester Police reported that "a minority of thugs"[2] among the 200,000 visiting Rangers fans were involved in the violence.[3]
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
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I once called an immensely fat Celtic supporter a fat ****** for knocking the drinks out of my hand with his enormous belly, when he knew I was there at the bar. This was in the old Ruskin Hall club after a Villa match in about 2002/3, I was 22 years old and him and his mates confronted me in front of my 13 year old nephew, saying they were IRA and would sort us.
Fuck Celtic.
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
Totally agree. And with Emery in charge we are in a very good place.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
Tell us more!
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
- Leipzig, birthplace of Wagner, the Musical trail, the zoo, goth festival, vegetable speciality Liepzieg Allerlei...
- Bruges, belfry, canals, lake, the chocolate Bruges swan, beer, Belgian chips !
- Bern, clock tower, bear park, Berner platte (meats galore), one of the most beautiful cities in the world
- Monaco, 'playground to the very wealthy', (ok, uninspiring shithole).
Bags of fun.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
grabs popcorn
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
Tell us more!
It’s not Johnny Win is it?
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It is trip advisor!! (smiley face)
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Is Eastie about?
Remember Hoppo (is he still about) being angered by him.
Who was the conspiracy theorist? Danzilla or the like?
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
What? I was part of a company that had to refund over 200k after our company collapsed because of COVID. If.you want to make libellous claims then we can certainly go down that route.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
What? I was part of a company that had to refund over 200k after our company collapsed because of COVID. If.you want to make libellous claims then we can certainly go down that route.
Was this in Mexico?
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I am delighted with the draw, big adventures await and more villa folklore to be created
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Fuck the draw, where's the popcorn?
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I am delighted with the draw, big adventures await and more villa folklore to be created
Agreed, but can we get back to the Netflix true crime documentary that was unfolding above, please.
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TAG. You say the draws are shitty and relate it to your desire to visit wonderful European cities. The point of my reply is that a cup draw is to choose opponents from many European cities, not to achieve bucket list objectives. I'm sure we would not have wanted Reykjavik, East Berlin or Kiev in 1982 but that is what it is all about.
What is there to take offence and be thin-skinned about?
I have my reasons as to why I would like certain places. My missus would love to see more of Europe and since it's a bloody long way from Mexico, I wanted somewhere a bit more interesting and certainly one of the big guns for the experience. Real Madrid away would be incredible!
You criticised my post and then informed me the "point" of the draw as if it's an objective truth. It isn't. It's different for everyone as we all have our reasons.
Bloody hell! No. The objective reason, which is an indisputable truth, for the draw is to choose opponents for European cup fixtures. You choosing to tell us how upset you are at not getting the cities you wanted is cool. However, me pointing out that it is not about you (or any of us) is cool too. I could have said 'That's nice!' or 'What a shame!' But I said 'It's not Trip Advisor!'
Are you sure you didn't have a previous username on here? Hmm!
A previous username? I have no idea what that's meant to mean??
well you did have a different user name on villatalk, before you got rumbled in the birmingham mail for conning a load of people and doing a runner
What? I was part of a company that had to refund over 200k after our company collapsed because of COVID. If.you want to make libellous claims then we can certainly go down that route.
Was this in Mexico?
No, we had a UK company that we ran for 9 years until COVID basically destroyed the business. We had to refund 200k worth of.tours (which we did) but some people claimed that we had acted inappropriately whilst we were processing the refunds. Which we didn't as we were within the legal timeframe for refunds according to the law and they all got refunded, meaning we lost everything.
Our staff in the UK lost their jobs and I personally lost about 500k.
So bullshit uniformed and libellous comments like that areaehole just posted are not ok.
Anyway, this is the Champions League forum.
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
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I think it is a decent draw; one that will give us a good chance of progressing. FTF!
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I am delighted with the draw, big adventures await and more villa folklore to be created
Agreed, but can we get back to the Netflix true crime documentary that was unfolding above, please.
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Stu, will you stop being the thought police, please? You'll be locking people up for saying they're English again, next.
What, these days he’ll arrest you and throw you in jail just for saying you’re English?
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
I am in Mexico City
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Stu, will you stop being the thought police, please? You'll be locking people up for saying they're English again, next.
What, these days he’ll arrest you and throw you in jail just for saying you’re English?
When did this come in?
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So a brief scan of travel shows:
Young Boys. Fly to Zurich, train from airport to Berne, about an hour.
Brugge. Eurostar to Brussels with any Belgian station ticket connection to Brugge.
Leipzig. Fly to Berlin, train to Leipzig about an hour and half.
Monaco. Fly to Nice, train to Monte Carlo about 30minutes.
But i am sure there are better options out there?
All very reasonable. The Good lady reckons there's direct flights to Monaco.
Does she have a helicopter?
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Well I'm certainly keeping a separate tab open for this thread.
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
I am in Mexico City
What did your business do before it all went tits up?
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
I am in Mexico City
How come you left VillaTalk? Red card?
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
You know what they say about the Pacific?
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Posting for effecto.
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Wycombe away doesnt seem that glamorous now….exciting few months agead
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
You know what they say about the Pacific?
This threads gone, I could taco or leave it tbh...
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One of my neighbours is a Celtic season ticket holder. We will have discussions.
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Have we any idea at all what order/dates the games will be played on
Or is it totally not known until announced
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I believe you. Out of curiosity, which bit of Mexico are you in, Zihuatanejo?
I am in Mexico City
What did your business do before it all went tits up?
We did football trips around Europe. It was very successful for years and then post COVID we got into deep water with the price rises so we're forced to refund everyone meaning all the profits we had generated were lost and all our staff had to be made redundant. Most people waited for their refunds but a handful went to a daily local rag even tho were were in the peocess of repaying refunds IN FULL.
We are the victims of this and yet some wankers post shit they don't understand.
I used to post on VT but left for that exact reason. Libellous, bullshit claims against a company that lost everything due to no fault of our own.
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Businesses go bust all the time, often through no fault of their own. The best you can hope for is that the owners try to do the right thing, which it sounds like AG was trying to.
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Have we any idea at all what order/dates the games will be played on
Or is it totally not known until announced
It's going to be announced on Saturday
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Businesses go bust all the time, often through no fault of their own. The best you can hope for is that the owners try to do the right thing, which it sounds like AG was trying to.
Thanks. Yes we absolutely did but it took a long time to resolve and so people jumped to conclusions whilst we were dealing with the situation. It was the worst time of my life and I lost everything I had built up over 9.years. The very last thing I expect is to be defamed on here by arseholes that don't have the facts.
Anyway, this is a thread about the Champions League and we should really get back to that.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
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Businesses go bust all the time, often through no fault of their own. The best you can hope for is that the owners try to do the right thing, which it sounds like AG was trying to.
Thanks. Yes we absolutely did but it took a long time to resolve and so people jumped to conclusions whilst we were dealing with the situation. It was the worst time of my life and I lost everything I had built up over 9.years. The very last thing I expect is to be defamed on here by arseholes that don't have the facts.
Anyway, this is a thread about the Champions League and we should really get back to that.
You are right it is a champion league thread, but thanks for explaining the issues,
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Very good draw. No Baltic hooligans
I didn’t know the Faroese felt so strongly about their Scandinavian cousins!
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(https://i.ibb.co/rGynDgf/34-35-el-table.png) (https://ibb.co/rGynDgf)
Here is a random FM save to give an idea of what may be required to qualify.
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We can't compete with the Manchester Sixes of this world.
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Wonder if Illing-Jr will play against us for Bologna.
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
- Leipzig, birthplace of Wagner, the Musical trail, the zoo, goth festival, vegetable speciality Liepzieg Allerlei...
- Bruges, belfry, canals, lake, the chocolate Bruges swan, beer, Belgian chips !
- Bern, clock tower, bear park, Berner platte (meats galore), one of the most beautiful cities in the world
- Monaco, 'playground to the very wealthy', (ok, uninspiring shithole).
Bags of fun.
Only been to Monaco and it was rubbish. Full of yachts and casinos and people dodging taxes.
Only redeeming feature was the football stadium, that seemed to have terracotta tiling on the roof, from what I could see.
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Is the Monaco ground the one that looks like an opera house at each end?
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(https://i.ibb.co/rGynDgf/34-35-el-table.png) (https://ibb.co/rGynDgf)
Here is a random FM save to give an idea of what may be required to qualify.
Think Opta suggested 8 points should be enough for Knockout Round.
So if we can beat Celtic and Bologna, we'd only need 1 more victory.
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When we lost that playoff final against Fulham and our world started unravel, imagine someone telling you this was just a few years away.
(https://i.ibb.co/pn04rJv/IMG-0971.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pn04rJv)
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Fuck it, let's win it again.
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We can't compete with the Manchester Sixes of this world.
Ha, I think that was the made up team the person playing the game was playing as. I found it on a forum and thought it gave a litle insight into what we may need to get through.
I reckom we will get top 15. Not sure where exactly but enough for play offs.
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I expect 13 points, which will be play-offs. And we'll play PSG.
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
But with all due respect, if we can't beat Celtic, Brugge & Young Boys handsomely then I'd fear for our season overall.
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6 years ago we were about to have this game, look at us now. Bonkers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45304576
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6 years ago we were about to have this game, look at us now. Bonkers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45304576
Nas & Wes have pretty much set the model for how to invest and develop a club, relatively flawlessly.
Apart from SHA, of course. We skipped the being relegated to the third division bit, which may cost us.
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6 years ago we were about to have this game, look at us now. Bonkers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45304576
My only visit to Bramall Lane....
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
But with all due respect, if we can't beat Celtic, Brugge & Young Boys handsomely then I'd fear for our season overall.
I wouldn’t expect any straightforward games. These are teams with lots of European experience. I’d hope we’d win those, but I’d be surprised if we cruised them.
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I reckon we'll get 10 points, so should make the play offs then it's luck of the draw.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
Tbf they havent played many English sides over the years. There will be trouble i think. The fans need to be up for this as they will be very loud
They've played loads.
http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/325-ENG/celtic_against_english_clubs
Don't remember there being any trouble this century. Hibs fans were very loud but didn't cause the slightest bother, either.
Mate they have only played city since 2009. Thats not a lot
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You did say “over the years”. How was he meant to know you meant a very specific, but not mentioned, period of time?
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You did say “over the years”. How was he meant to know you meant a very specific, but not mentioned, period of time?
Ask the question over a time span?
One team in 14 years is a " period of time" if you want to pedantic 🙂
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
Don't see why. We regularly play Man C, Arsenal, and Liverpool - not often we get hammered.
Looking at the overall winners odds, we are offered around 50/1.
Bayern are similar odds to Liverpool.
Juve are a slightly shorter than us, Leipzig and Monaco are slightly longer.
Bologna, Celtic, Young Boys, and Brugge are all outsiders.
We should be looking to make the top half of the play off positions (9th-16th). Perhaps even have a chance going into the last league game end of January of making 8th and going straight through to the last 16. Then you are three ties from Munich !
I'm sure one of Europes most experienced managers will have already planned this all out and covered all contingencies.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/champions-league/winner
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We have some massive games at Villa Park I'm looking forward to those games.
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Im glad we got Bayern ahead of dortmund or Leverkusen as i think both those sides are better than bayern
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I was just pontificating on the fixtures - will we take 30000 to Bruges?
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Is the Monaco ground the one that looks like an opera house at each end?
Isn't the car park under the pitch which is harder due to it being laid over concrete?
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I think our draw is fantastic. Two huge European giants in Bayern and Juventus, with some interesting away trips that all look winnable.
- Leipzig, birthplace of Wagner, the Musical trail, the zoo, goth festival, vegetable speciality Liepzieg Allerlei...
- Bruges, belfry, canals, lake, the chocolate Bruges swan, beer, Belgian chips !
- Bern, clock tower, bear park, Berner platte (meats galore), one of the most beautiful cities in the world
- Monaco, 'playground to the very wealthy', (ok, uninspiring shithole).
Bags of fun.
Only been to Monaco and it was rubbish. Full of yachts and casinos and people dodging taxes.
Only redeeming feature was the football stadium, that seemed to have terracotta tiling on the roof, from what I could see.
I quite liked looking at the yachts, the Lady Moura always sticks in my mind, as does paying £20 for a coffee and small beer!
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About £4.50 and 21 minute train from Nice to Monaco. Flights from Manchester to Nice looking at £280 for direct.
Lovely train journey from Nice to Monaco hugging the Mediterranean
Or helicopter from Nice Airport to Monaco about 15 mins. That's how I used to travel to Monaco when I worked there sometimes when sent over from London office for my company.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
There's not many places near the ground to accommodate 5-10,000 ticketless fans . I'm sure the city centre / Digbeth bars will appreciate the extra trade
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I was just pontificating on the fixtures - will we take 30000 to Bruges?
Brugge Police will not like another 30k brummies there, they still haven't got rid of the last load.
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
But with all due respect, if we can't beat Celtic, Brugge & Young Boys handsomely then I'd fear for our season overall.
We couldn't beat Zrinjski Mostar, Legia Warsaw or Middlesbrough comfortably but still had a pretty decent season.
I reckon we will beat one of Juventus or Bayern but drop points against Celtic and/or Bologna.
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
But with all due respect, if we can't beat Celtic, Brugge & Young Boys handsomely then I'd fear for our season overall.
We couldn't beat Zrinjski Mostar, Legia Warsaw or Middlesbrough comfortably but still had a pretty decent season.
Exactly why i thought the draw looks tough . Whichever way you cut it the draw will be tough in the ECL .
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This tournament is what we’ve strived for. It’s not a 3rd rate European tournament, it’s the pinnacle for any European club side. Under Emery we have a good chance of progressing well into it. I can’t wait.
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About £4.50 and 21 minute train from Nice to Monaco. Flights from Manchester to Nice looking at £280 for direct.
Lovely train journey from Nice to Monaco hugging the Mediterranean
Or helicopter from Nice Airport to Monaco about 15 mins. That's how I used to travel to Monaco when I worked there sometimes when sent over from London office for my company.
I did that once. Absolutely terrifying, the pilots all seem to take off with the cabin of the helicopter facing vertically down towards the sea. I'd rather get the train.
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I have to admit that I have a bad feeling about the CL. Reckon we might get one or two pastings.
But with all due respect, if we can't beat Celtic, Brugge & Young Boys handsomely then I'd fear for our season overall.
We couldn't beat Zrinjski Mostar, Legia Warsaw or Middlesbrough comfortably but still had a pretty decent season.
I reckon we will beat one of Juventus or Bayern but drop points against Celtic and/or Bologna.
Yeah but in those matches we were making lots of changes with Unai trying to eke out resources. It's why I think this transfer window is so disappointing. We need to go at the Champions League full tilt and can't be putting out the sorts of weakened team we did in the early rounds of the conference league. But we also can't expect the likes of Torres and Watkins to play nearly 50-60 games.
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
Yep on both fronts .
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
What should we have done to avoid falling down?
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
What should we have done to avoid falling down?
Id have probably done a unpopular decision and sold youri instead of luiz
And not signed enzo and illing jr if we cant use them this year.
Also not spent 10m on dobbin
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Add to this we need to try and win a trophy - which realistically is only the League Cup or FA Cup... Unai will need to work miracles!
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
What should we have done to avoid falling down?
Id have probably done a unpopular decision and sold youri instead of luiz
And not signed enzo and illing jr if we cant use them this year.
Also not spent 10m on dobbin
The Luiz deal was because of the PSR deadline.
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It's great to be involved again, and the extra money is not to be sniffed at. However, I get the wobbles thinking what we do if Watkins gets injured. Not an original thought by any means, I know, but the wobbles is still the wobbles.
Thankfully midfield looks well catered for.
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Wobbles the Wonder Dog.
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The biggest issue we will have is in conference we couls occasionally play squad players. And save our better ones for the league games. You cant do that in CL as the teams are far superior.
Thats why you need a big squad with quality . My prediction is thats where we may fall down.
What should we have done to avoid falling down?
Id have probably done a unpopular decision and sold youri instead of luiz
And not signed enzo and illing jr if we cant use them this year.
Also not spent 10m on dobbin
The Luiz deal was because of the PSR deadline.
I'm going on the basis that UE clearly thinks we have a strong enough squad to cope with these three out on loan, and has calculated that it is better for the club to let Albion et al nursery these younger players for season
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Wobbles the Wonder Dog.
Spot on.
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
There's not many places near the ground to accommodate 5-10,000 ticketless fans . I'm sure the city centre / Digbeth bars will appreciate the extra trade
The Scots see any away game in England as a rite of passage kind of thing. I expect 10,000 easily will travel down, ticket or not. It could be an interesting day/night for people who live within a mile of the ground !!
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
There's not many places near the ground to accommodate 5-10,000 ticketless fans . I'm sure the city centre / Digbeth bars will appreciate the extra trade
The Scots see any away game in England as a rite of passage kind of thing. I expect 10,000 easily will travel down, ticket or not. It could be an interesting day/night for people who live within a mile of the ground !!
True , they'll hit the off licenses hard in and around the ground and sit in Aston Hall Park etc
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
There's not many places near the ground to accommodate 5-10,000 ticketless fans . I'm sure the city centre / Digbeth bars will appreciate the extra trade
The Scots see any away game in England as a rite of passage kind of thing. I expect 10,000 easily will travel down, ticket or not. It could be an interesting day/night for people who live within a mile of the ground !!
True , they'll hit the off licenses hard in and around the ground and sit in Aston Hall Park etc
If they hear about the state of our stadium toilets it'll just encourage them to use people's front gardens to relieve themselves...I think that was an issue when Rangers came down in the 70s
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
Which means they are not allowed to drink in town and on their manor
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I'm going on the basis that UE clearly thinks we have a strong enough squad to cope with these three out on loan, and has calculated that it is better for the club to let Albion et al nursery these younger players for season
On the other hand he was talking about still trying to get a couple of players in, so he clearly thinks we need them.
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Yeah, the evidence seems to be pointing far more to us not being able to bring in the players we wanted to and having to loan/sell others to meet the rules than it does to Emery just thinking "ah fuck it, we can always play with eight men, who cares?"
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Where/when have Celtic fans caused trouble outside Scotland?
The problem for WMP will be what to do with several thousand ticketless fans, many of whom will be over the drink drive limit. I'd be very surprised if there is any bother between the fans. It's the first time we've played them in a competitive fixture and hopefully will be a night to remember.
Yeah I don't expect trouble as such , they'll just come and drink the city / Digbeth dry . Hopefully no sectarian/ Palestinian stuff. I think they'll be on good form actually.
The problems might come from our blue neighbours who seem to have become pally with their blue neighbours.
There's not many places near the ground to accommodate 5-10,000 ticketless fans . I'm sure the city centre / Digbeth bars will appreciate the extra trade
The Scots see any away game in England as a rite of passage kind of thing. I expect 10,000 easily will travel down, ticket or not. It could be an interesting day/night for people who live within a mile of the ground !!
True , they'll hit the off licenses hard in and around the ground and sit in Aston Hall Park etc
If they hear about the state of our stadium toilets it'll just encourage them to use people's front gardens to relieve themselves...I think that was an issue when Rangers came down in the 70s
pissing in gardens was the least of the worries in that encounter
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Talking to a Celtic fan today, he seemed very confident of beating us.
Then i asked him did he remember the last time Celtic played against an Unai Emery team in the CL?
It was 2017, PSG beat them 5-0 in Glasgow and 7-1 in Paris, he went a bit quiet after that.
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Very good draw. No Baltic hooligans
I didn’t know the Faroese felt so strongly about their Scandinavian cousins!
Doh! :) sorry - meant to say Balkan - We just had Hajdu Split visiting here and a horrible bunch
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Having a browse of a Celtic forum and there does seem to be a bit of delusion for how shit they and their league of postmen and plumbers is.
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€2.1m a win. Blimey.
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€2.1m a win. Blimey.
And €700k for a draw.
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
Interesting. The so called elite are all going to under estimate us
What do the Bolognese think of us?
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I went on a boat trip in Tenerife and there was a chap there in a Celtic top. He seemed a polite and well-mannered young man.
My cousin has lived his whole life in Brum and is a Celtic season ticket holder. He provides wealth management advice to high-net-worth individuals, and is also a polite and well-mannered man.
He can be polite and well-mannered all he likes. If he lives in Brum, why the feck isn't he Villa?
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
Interesting. The so called elite are all going to under estimate us
What do the Bolognese think of us?
In my experience they'll be too busy eating chunks of parmesan like an apple.
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What do the Bolognese think of us?
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Had a look at the Bayern fans forum to see what they think of the draw.
by ramsej84 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:47 pm
MUTU wrote:
We can't avoid Barcelona can we? :(
So we're playing at home to PSG, away to Barcelona, at home to Benfica, away to Shakhtar, home to Dinamo Zagreb, away to Feyenoord, home to Bratislava and away to Aston Villa.
aston villa/>??>?>?>>?
it totally escaped my mind that these little bastards qualified for it!
Interesting. The so called elite are all going to under estimate us
What do the Bolognese think of us?
They probably think they'll make mincemeat of us
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A few years ago, during the dark days of the first season after relegation, I was telling a much younger (20s) Villa fan about when Juve and Barca came to VP and we were the Kings of Europe. Probably bored him to death, but I remember saying that it was hard to see that ever happening again. And back then, mid table in the Championship , with Steve Bruce at the helm, it definitely was.
But now that time has come again. And for you much younger Villa fans, who haven't seen this before, this is YOUR time. Believe we can compete with these teams, believe we can beat them - in Unai we have a manager who gives us that belief.
The Old Lady of Villa Park is awakening once more, ready to generate that special European Cup atmosphere. The ghosts of forty, fifty years and more are stirring on the Holte, in the Trinity, the North and the Witton Lane , ready to make themselves heard when Bayern, Juve and the rest come to town. Join them and make the bloody roof come off !
Hail Emery of the Villa, and Bring It ON !
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Hail Emery of the Villa, and Bring It ON !
And a nod to Dean Smith, who got us out of the mire and made this possible.
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Hail Emery of the Villa, and Bring It ON !
And a nod to Dean Smith, who got us out of the mire and made this possible.
I would say that was more down to Jack Grealish.
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Outside of the owners and Unai, Smith is the main one that helped get us to where we are now.
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Yes.
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Outside of the owners and Unai, Smith is the main one that helped get us to where we are now.
You think it was Smith, I think it was Grealish. Your view is likely to prove more popular on here. :)
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Our key players last season were Smith signings. Martinez, Watkins, Bailey, Konsa, Luiz, Cash. Plus all the players he signed that got us promoted and then kept us up. What Grealish did was nowhere near as key. And I don't hate Jack so aren't really saying it through any malice towards Jack.
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Hail Emery of the Villa, and Bring It ON !
And a nod to Dean Smith, who got us out of the mire and made this possible.
Absolutely agreed, a hundred percent .
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https://theanalyst.com/2024/08/champions-league-2024-25-fixture-difficulty-group-stage
Apologies if posted earlier.
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https://theanalyst.com/2024/08/champions-league-2024-25-fixture-difficulty-group-stage
Apologies if posted earlier.
Liverpool :)
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There was no way Dean Smith was getting us promoted until Jack Grealish came back.
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There was no way Dean Smith was getting us promoted until Jack Grealish came back.
Doesn't have to be one or the other. Dean was good for Jack, Jack was good for Dean.
One of them tainted their legacy, one didn't.
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There was no way Dean Smith was getting us promoted until Jack Grealish came back.
Doesn't have to be one or the other. Dean was good for Jack, Jack was good for Dean.
One of them tainted their legacy, one didn't.
Yep.
Jack was the key, Deano the only manager with opposable thumbs to use it.
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I wanted to draw Inter, but after watching these first 15 minutes of their game today its probably best to go to Leipzig.
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There was no way Dean Smith was getting us promoted until Jack Grealish came back.
Definitely. We were done for the season before that Derby game. Shoots of recovery at Stoke the week before, but not much else and Grealish made the difference.
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And Grealish failed to get us promoted for two seasons without Smith. Cuts both ways, as your man further up says.
I'm thankful for them both, even if memory of Jack is tarnished.
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If only there was a Grealish thread.
In other news, I think we have what it takes to do well with the fixtures we have but I am eager to see which game we get in between the Liverpool and Spurs away games.
We could really do with that one being Bologna at home or Young Boys away .
My point being that the order of the games is almost as important as the draw itself.
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Home first game, home last game would he nice.
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Obviously I hope we beat them soundly, but it's kind of nice that we drew Juventus at home and Dougie will get to experience CL football at Villa Park. He was a big part of us getting there after all.
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Obviously I hope we beat them soundly, but it's kind of nice that we drew Juventus at home and Dougie will get to experience CL football at Villa Park. He was a big part of us getting there after all.
He will have a good view of it from the Juve bench.
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Home first game, home last game would he nice.
Well since we were drawn away on the 1st game of the PL, away on boxing day, away on the last day and away in the Carabao cup, I won't be holding out much hope of being home 1st in the CL.
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I'm not sure we were "drawn" away in the first Premier League game, didn't we ask for it again? If so, thank goodness we did or they might have been ill-prepared for the first home game.
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Very good draw. No Baltic hooligans
I didn’t know the Faroese felt so strongly about their Scandinavian cousins!
Doh! :) sorry - meant to say Balkan - We just had Hajdu Split visiting here and a horrible bunch
Guessed that might be it. I know the Danes and the Swedes semi-jokingly trade insults based on historical enmity. And everyone thinks the Norwegians are a bunch of slow-witted farmers who got lucky and hit the oil jackpot. So you never know.
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Anyone know the actual time of the fixture scheduling today?
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Anyone know the actual time of the fixture scheduling today?
I think its any time now.
Hoping first games away and last game is at home
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Is there a big hoo ha about releasing the fixtures, like for the draw? Or is it basically just a press release?
Would be cool to have a big home tie first, but being sensible it would probably be good to have a win or two under our belts before we face the big guys. Newcastle's first home game last season looked
Like a cool occasion, but it all went downhill from there.
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I'll just be refreshing here for the news. Don't think anyone knows what time it will be.
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I believe fixtures will be published as a matter of routine on UEFA UCL website under "Matches" tab with possibly a headline in the news section. No hoo ha.
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They're out
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Nov, 6th at FC Bruges. 6.45 local time.
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17.09 18.45 Young Boys
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
22.10 21.00 Bologna
06.11 18.45 Bruges
27.11 21.00 Juventus
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
21.01 18.45 Monaco
29.01 21.00 Celtic
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Times will be in CET for those booking away matches.
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Last match against a poor Hibs wannabe at home. That ground will be rocking.
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17.09 18.45 Young Boys
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
22.10 21.00 Bologna
06.11 18.45 Bruges
27.11 21.00 Juventus
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
21.01 18.45 Monaco
29.01 21.00 Celtic
So it's A, H, H, A, H, A, A, H?
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17.09 18.45 Young Boys
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
22.10 21.00 Bologna
06.11 18.45 Bruges
27.11 21.00 Juventus
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
21.01 18.45 Monaco
29.01 21.00 Celtic
So it's A, H, H, A, H, A, A, H?
And it is a Tues, Weds, T, W, W, T, T, W
So no Thursday match week.
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All I wanted was Munich as the first home game. Brill.
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We got Wycombe same week on the 17 September?
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Young Boys play at Wankdorf Stadium? Someone's just making this up now.
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14th Everton
17.09 18.45 Young Boys
21st Wolves
29th Ipswich
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
6th Man Utd
19th Fulham
22.10 21.00 Bologna
26th Bournemouth
2nd Spurs
06.11 18.45 Bruges
9th Liverpool
23rd Crystal Palace
27.11 21.00 Juventus
30th Chelsea
3rd Brentford
7th Southampton
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
14th Forest
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18th Arsenal
21.01 18.45 Monaco
25th West Ham
29.01 21.00 Celtic
1st Wolves
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We got Wycombe same week on the 17 September?
It gets moved to the week between. That was why CL opponents were kept separated as some other CL matches also happen in the other weeks.
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Wonder if anyone knows how our ticket office will organise this?
We’d like to go to the first away in Berne, and have 3 Euro aways from last year.
If the TO offer tickets based on this, I guess we have a chance with maybe an approx 1500 tickets.
If it’s a free for all, then I don’t want to risk booking transport etc.
I’d wait, but I know they’ll announce everything a few days before!
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17.09 18.45 Young Boys
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
22.10 21.00 Bologna
06.11 18.45 Bruges
27.11 21.00 Juventus
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
21.01 18.45 Monaco
29.01 21.00 Celtic
So it's A, H, H, A, H, A, A, H?
No, it's "you're shit, AHH-AH-AAH" on the opposition's goal kicks.
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Young Boys have an interesting named stadium.
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Young Boys have an interesting named stadium.
I wouldn’t recommend Googling ‘Young Boys Wankdorf’
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Ffs Juventus at home when I'm in York one in four chance so of course they've fucked me over. Could have lived with missing Celtic or Bologna but not Juve or Bayern.
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Not a bad draw. Wouldnt have wanted munich at home 1st though as thats the hardest one and outs a bit of pressure on us ti start well.
Celtic at home last it had to be. Could you imagine if that winner takes all qualifies?
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Celtic at home last it had to be. Could you imagine if that winner takes all qualifies?
I'm guessing that based on how they normally do in Europe that's probably not something to worry too much about.
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They've every chance of being in the mix for the play-offs. They tend to be pretty decent at home.
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Will miss Bologna game due to a gig but of the 4 that one would have been my choice. Shame though
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They've got a few of the same teams as us, and I think Dortmund and arguably Atalanta are the only "big" sides they have to play, aside from us.
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My dad has stage 4 cancer and missed a lot of games last season, including the wins over Arsenal and Man City due to chemo, radiotherapy and surgery.
He is feeling great at the moment and able to go to games but is due to have his next major surgery on 2nd October.
I was praying we would be at home first so he could go; but that, if not, the Bayern game wouldn't be on 2nd October.
FFS!
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Best of wishes to your dad.
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Yes best wishes to your dad mate.
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Thank you both.
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My dad has stage 4 cancer and missed a lot of games last season, including the wins over Arsenal and Man City due to chemo, radiotherapy and surgery.
He is feeling great at the moment and able to go to games but is due to have his next major surgery on 2nd October.
I was praying we would be at home first so he could go; but that, if not, the Bayern game wouldn't be on 2nd October.
FFS!
Sorry to hear about your dad. All the best for him. His health is more important mate
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TNT commentator mentions the first games in the CL coming up. Guess which one didn’t get a mention?
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My dad has stage 4 cancer and missed a lot of games last season, including the wins over Arsenal and Man City due to chemo, radiotherapy and surgery.
He is feeling great at the moment and able to go to games but is due to have his next major surgery on 2nd October.
I was praying we would be at home first so he could go; but that, if not, the Bayern game wouldn't be on 2nd October.
FFS!
Sorry to hear about your dad. All the best for him. His health is more important mate
Thanks. Just in case, like my wife, people are thinking I'm pissed off because I can't go - I'm pissed off because he can't go. There is still a chance I can.
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My dad has stage 4 cancer and missed a lot of games last season, including the wins over Arsenal and Man City due to chemo, radiotherapy and surgery.
He is feeling great at the moment and able to go to games but is due to have his next major surgery on 2nd October.
I was praying we would be at home first so he could go; but that, if not, the Bayern game wouldn't be on 2nd October.
FFS!
Sorry to hear about your dad. All the best for him. His health is more important mate
Thanks. Just in case, like my wife, people are thinking I'm pissed off because I can't go - I'm pissed off because he can't go. There is still a chance I can.
I hope all works out for you and villa can deliver a result fir you dad. Hopefully he can make one of the other CL games
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Good luck to dalians umbrella's dad.
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My dad has stage 4 cancer and missed a lot of games last season, including the wins over Arsenal and Man City due to chemo, radiotherapy and surgery.
He is feeling great at the moment and able to go to games but is due to have his next major surgery on 2nd October.
I was praying we would be at home first so he could go; but that, if not, the Bayern game wouldn't be on 2nd October.
FFS!
That’s unfortunate, hopefully we put on a decent performance to somewhat make up for your dad missing it. All the best to him and you
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14th Everton
17.09 18.45 Young Boys
21st Wolves
29th Ipswich
02.10 21.00 Bayern Munich
6th Man Utd
19th Fulham
22.10 21.00 Bologna
26th Bournemouth
2nd Spurs
06.11 18.45 Bruges
9th Liverpool
23rd Crystal Palace
27.11 21.00 Juventus
30th Chelsea
3rd Brentford
7th Southampton
10.12 21.00 Leipzig
14th Forest
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18th Arsenal
21.01 18.45 Monaco
25th West Ham
29.01 21.00 Celtic
1st Wolves
Thanks. Stick Wycombe in between Wolves and Ipswich.
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Good luck to dalians umbrella's dad.
Yes, best wishes.
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So I'm waiting for Ads and Olaftab to tell us their travel plans.
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Good luck to dalians umbrella's dad.
Yes, best wishes.
Thanks everyone.
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So I'm waiting for Ads and Olaftab to tell us their travel plans.
They've got a separate thread for that...
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=65166.msg4673592#new
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The race is on sitting pretty in the top half 😁
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Good luck to dalians umbrella's dad.
Sorry he won't get to see it in person. Hope he's able to watch it while he's recovering post op.
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A pre Christmas trip to Leipzig looks ace.
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The full fixture list. Possibly something we will be paying particular attention to as we reach the last couple of games.
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A pre Christmas trip to Leipzig looks ace.
Do they have a Birmingham XMas Market?
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The full fixture list. Possibly something we will be paying particular attention to as we reach the last couple of games.
I quite enjoyed the period last season where we were paying attention to the coefficient. It made other games in Europe something to be invested in. This league format could be really good, assuming it's not already decided after like 3 rounds.
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I'm not sure how 24 places can be decided in three rounds.
Oh, and coefficients will also be back for this season as well to determine four of five places next season so you also still have that.
England currently top that.
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/?year=2025
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So if english teams do well 5th will get CL great.
Chelsea should go far in conference
You would imagine citeh will go far in this cup
Spurs probably go far in europa too
Good chance for extra CL spot
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A pre Christmas trip to Leipzig looks ace.
Do they have a Birmingham XMas Market?
€9 mulled Bovril.
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A pre Christmas trip to Leipzig looks ace.
Do they have a Birmingham XMas Market?
3 pairs of socks for €5 and helium balloons.
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Young Boys 1 Lausanne 1
Champions the last two seasons.
6 games in and they are bottom of the Swiss league without a win.
But they beat Galatasaray in both legs to qualify.
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We lost to legia first away game so i think we would have learned a lot from that. We will need something there as having bayern next we dont want to be having 0 points after 2 games.
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Why are they called ‘Young Boys’ not ‘Junge Jungs’ ?
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Could be an interesting game against Monaco, their manager is Adolf Hutter..had to read that twice...hopefully they don't try and out flank us..
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Talking last night with friends about Celtic at home being the last game in qualifying. If both teams have a chance of progressing then it will be the noisiest match Villa Park has seen, and the fact Celtic have the easiest draw makes it a possibility. We also need to factor in that if Celtic need a result the number of fans they bring down will increase.
From a football perspective Bayern and Juve are bigger games, but as an event and atmosphere wise Celtic will be the best night...and they seem to do OK in these battle of Britain games..time someone gave them a shoeing...
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Talking last night with friends about Celtic at home being the last game in qualifying. If both teams have a chance of progressing then it will be the noisiest match Villa Park has seen, and the fact Celtic have the easiest draw makes it a possibility. We also need to factor in that if Celtic need a result the number of fans they bring down will increase.
From a football perspective Bayern and Juve are bigger games, but as an event and atmosphere wise Celtic will be the best night...and they seem to do OK in these battle of Britain games..time someone gave them a shoeing...
Come January they’ll be snowed in. Besides, we’ll have already qualified and resting the first team for the FA Cup.
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Why are they called ‘Young Boys’ not ‘Junge Jungs’ ?
Named in tribute to Basel based club called "Old Boys", who presumably took their inspiration from the various British "Old Boys" named teams.
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In 1876 the gymnastics teacher at the then secondary school, Adolf Glaz, founded the RTV/Realschüler-Turnverein (secondary school student gymnastics club). In 1893 he introduced his students to the new football game. From then some members of the club met regularly during the summer and autumn holidays and the RTV had a football team. When the students finished school, they could no longer be members of the student association. That is why they founded their own football club in 1894. Since they founded the club because they had become too old for the school club, they called the new club the "Old Boys".
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Early days I know, but has anyone got any insight as how ticketing may go ref CL games..do we think they'll do a bundle offer like last seasons games in Europe...I very much doubt it..
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Early days I know, but has anyone got any insight as how ticketing may go ref CL games..do we think they'll do a bundle offer like last seasons games in Europe...I very much doubt it..
Why wouldn't they offer a bundle deal?
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I think when we renewed STs there was an announcement saying they weren't doing bundles for CL Group games like they did for Conf games. In addition they were pushing the Auto ticket buying cup scheme.
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Wasn’t it also in the fan advisory meeting minutes?
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Early days I know, but has anyone got any insight as how ticketing may go ref CL games..do we think they'll do a bundle offer like last seasons games in Europe...I very much doubt it..
Why wouldn't they offer a bundle deal?
Because they'd make more money selling them game by game.
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Plus they gave us the option of signing up for them automatically with no return option when we bought our season tickets.
If enough people said yes to that… :o
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You just need to watch the old firm now to see how noisy their fans are. Hopefully we would have either qualified or celtic are out as couldnt stomach losing to them
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We could qualify, they could be out and we could still lose to them. So not sure what that would do for your stomach.
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You just need to watch the old firm now to see how noisy their fans are. Hopefully we would have either qualified or celtic are out as couldnt stomach losing to them
Or that we beat them, obviously.
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You just need to watch the old firm now to see how noisy their fans are. Hopefully we would have either qualified or celtic are out as couldnt stomach losing to them
I can't bear the thought of attending a match where the opposition fans might engage in singing. Terrifying stuff, won't sleep tonight.
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I think when we renewed STs there was an announcement saying they weren't doing bundles for CL Group games like they did for Conf games. In addition they were pushing the Auto ticket buying cup scheme.
That's why I thought they'd do it this year if they did it last year. Shame really.
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There's a website - SeatPick "offering" tickets now:
Bayern £216+
Juve £212+
Bologna £186+
Celtic £186+
No idea how, or where they're getting these prices from, but the site says:
"Here on SeatPick we currently have 3,713 Aston Villa Champions League tickets for sale, with prices kicking off at £84."
They're also offering tickets to the away fixtures.
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Talking last night with friends about Celtic at home being the last game in qualifying. If both teams have a chance of progressing then it will be the noisiest match Villa Park has seen, and the fact Celtic have the easiest draw makes it a possibility. We also need to factor in that if Celtic need a result the number of fans they bring down will increase.
From a football perspective Bayern and Juve are bigger games, but as an event and atmosphere wise Celtic will be the best night...and they seem to do OK in these battle of Britain games..time someone gave them a shoeing...
Come January they’ll be snowed in. Besides, we’ll have already qualified and resting the first team for the FA Cup.
They'll still be hung over after Hogmanay, I'll be surprised if they sell out their allocation.
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Talking last night with friends about Celtic at home being the last game in qualifying. If both teams have a chance of progressing then it will be the noisiest match Villa Park has seen, and the fact Celtic have the easiest draw makes it a possibility. We also need to factor in that if Celtic need a result the number of fans they bring down will increase.
From a football perspective Bayern and Juve are bigger games, but as an event and atmosphere wise Celtic will be the best night...and they seem to do OK in these battle of Britain games..time someone gave them a shoeing...
Come January they’ll be snowed in. Besides, we’ll have already qualified and resting the first team for the FA Cup.
They'll still be hung over after Hogmanay, I'll be surprised if they sell out their allocation.
They treat these Auld Enemy games like no other lol, and took 80,000 away to Seville in 2003, I'm sure they'll sell out the away end..
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There's a website - SeatPick "offering" tickets now:
Bayern £216+
Juve £212+
Bologna £186+
Celtic £186+
No idea how, or where they're getting these prices from, but the site says:
"Here on SeatPick we currently have 3,713 Aston Villa Champions League tickets for sale, with prices kicking off at £84."
They're also offering tickets to the away fixtures.
Its most likely a scam keep your money safe
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“SeatPick is the largest ticket search engine and ticket marketplace for live events”. Looking at their site they don’t seem to actually sell the tickets themselves but match sellers and buyers.
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Now everyone has taken out a mortgage for their Oasis tickets they'll be lucky to shift our tickets for that money..
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Oops wrong thread
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Guess that Heck is busy working out how much he can charge before prices are announced.
A Category A match non-ST ticket in the Lower Doug Ellis is £72.50 standard admission, £54.50 for concessions
10-20% CL premium?
10% = £79.95 & £59.95
20% = £87.00 & £65.40
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Guess that Heck is busy working out how much he can charge before prices are announced.
A Category A match non-ST ticket in the Lower Doug Ellis is £72.50 standard admission, £54.50 for concessions
10-20% CL premium?
10% = £79.95 & £59.95
20% = £87.00 & £65.40
I bet he's on the phone to Liam Gallagher as we speak, trying to pick his brains about dynamic pricing,
...the pies will be £5...but if there's more than 10 in the queue they'll be £15..
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Plus they gave us the option of signing up for them automatically with no return option when we bought our season tickets.
If enough people said yes to that… :o
Yeesssss ... problem is: I can't remember whether I ticked the box or not (it's an age thing). Do you happen to know whether it is possible to find out on the ticketing website?
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Plus they gave us the option of signing up for them automatically with no return option when we bought our season tickets.
If enough people said yes to that… :o
Yeesssss ... problem is: I can't remember whether I ticked the box or not (it's an age thing). Do you happen to know whether it is possible to find out on the ticketing website?
It’s on the Welcome page on the ticketing page once you’ve signed in.
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They've (Celtic) every chance of being in the mix for the play-offs. They tend to be pretty decent at home.
This didn't feel quite right for how I remembered it - since 2014 they've won one Champions League match at home (Feyenoord 2023) from twelve played. One away win in their twelve away games in that time (Anderlecht, 2017), for balance.
Obviously lots of times when they didn't get to the group stage, dropped into the Europa League and won other games in that time as well though.
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A lot of them are narrow defeats and they'll be playing more sides nearer their own standard than they usually do in a 4 team group.
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Did wonder if Celtic may rest players if they're already out, but at 2M for a win, probably not.
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Just had a look on a Celtic forum and a 4 game package for the CL games is £184..
They'll be moaning when they realise how much it'll cost for the wonderful Facilities in the Doug Ellis.
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It's a max of 70 Euros for standard away tickets, and Celtic are one of the worst for charging the max.
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It's estimated that 8-9 points will be enough for the play-offs. Celtic play S Bratislava, Leipzig, Brugge and Young Boys at home, and Dortmund, Atalanta, Zagreb and us away. It doesn't need an absolute miracle for them to be coming to VP either already all but through or needing a result.
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Another great thing about champions league is that it makes watching televised European football more interesting especially if any of our foes are playing. Watched Leipzig yesterday, Celtic earlier today and now watching Juve.
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Plus they gave us the option of signing up for them automatically with no return option when we bought our season tickets.
If enough people said yes to that… :o
Yeesssss ... problem is: I can't remember whether I ticked the box or not (it's an age thing). Do you happen to know whether it is possible to find out on the ticketing website?
It’s on the Welcome page on the ticketing page once you’ve signed in.
Cheers
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Plus they gave us the option of signing up for them automatically with no return option when we bought our season tickets.
If enough people said yes to that… :o
Yeesssss ... problem is: I can't remember whether I ticked the box or not (it's an age thing). Do you happen to know whether it is possible to find out on the ticketing website?
It’s on the Welcome page on the ticketing page once you’ve signed in.
Do you have a screengrab of what we should be seeing AV82EC? I thought I'd signed up to it, but can't see anything. ☹️
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OS has a link for enrolling ST into the UEFA Champions League Cup Scheme now! Also a 'click here' to sell your seat for individual matches. Not sure whether to use the first link in case it commits me there and then to buy tickets for all 4 games - I know for a fact that I can't go to 2 of them, and don't want to risk not being able to resell the tickets for those 2 games. Anyone followed the link?
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It's estimated that 8-9 points will be enough for the play-offs. Celtic play S Bratislava, Leipzig, Brugge and Young Boys at home, and Dortmund, Atalanta, Zagreb and us away. It doesn't need an absolute miracle for them to be coming to VP either already all but through or needing a result.
I think I saw some maths nerd who'd worked it out that 25th place is something like 70% to be 7 points and 8th is a similar percent to be 17.
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It's estimated that 8-9 points will be enough for the play-offs. Celtic play S Bratislava, Leipzig, Brugge and Young Boys at home, and Dortmund, Atalanta, Zagreb and us away. It doesn't need an absolute miracle for them to be coming to VP either already all but through or needing a result.
I think I saw some maths nerd who'd worked it out that 25th place is something like 70% to be 7 points and 8th is a similar percent to be 17.
I think I heard on the Beeb's CL coverage that the expected points needed for 24th and above was 7.6. All points to 8 or 9 points being enough.
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It's estimated that 8-9 points will be enough for the play-offs. Celtic play S Bratislava, Leipzig, Brugge and Young Boys at home, and Dortmund, Atalanta, Zagreb and us away. It doesn't need an absolute miracle for them to be coming to VP either already all but through or needing a result.
If we need 9 points our away games look on paper abit more winnable than the home ones.
Im pretty sure if comes to last game and we both need a point for play offs both sides will just play out for a draw
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OS has a link for enrolling ST into the UEFA Champions League Cup Scheme now! Also a 'click here' to sell your seat for individual matches. Not sure whether to use the first link in case it commits me there and then to buy tickets for all 4 games - I know for a fact that I can't go to 2 of them, and don't want to risk not being able to resell the tickets for those 2 games. Anyone followed the link?
Where are you seeing this? I've scoured the site top to bottom and can't find anything related to it. What are you viewing it on - Web browser on PC or the AVFC app?
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OS has a link for enrolling ST into the UEFA Champions League Cup Scheme now! Also a 'click here' to sell your seat for individual matches. Not sure whether to use the first link in case it commits me there and then to buy tickets for all 4 games - I know for a fact that I can't go to 2 of them, and don't want to risk not being able to resell the tickets for those 2 games. Anyone followed the link?
Where are you seeing this? I've scoured the site top to bottom and can't find anything related to it. What are you viewing it on - Web browser on PC or the AVFC app?
It's on my account page, and I'm viewing on web browser
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Weekend scores:
Young Boys Berne 1 Lausanne 1 - Young Boys are surprisingly bottom of the league with no wins and three points from their opening six games.
Bayern Munich 2 Freiburg 0 - Bayern are second on goal difference after winning their opening two games.
Bologna 1 Empoli 1 - Bologna are in the relegation zone with two points from their opening three games.
Club Brugge 3 Cercle Brugge 0 - derby win leaves Club Brugge one point off the top after six games.
Juventus 0 Roma 0 - first dropped points of the season but they're still second on goal difference after three games.
Bayer Leverkusen 2 RB Leipzig 3 - Leipzig end Leverkusen's 15-month unbeaten domestic run with a fightback win from 2-0 down. They've won both their opening matches and are third.
Monaco 1 Lens 1 - Monaco concede from a 94th minute penalty to drop their first points this season. Fifth.
Celtic 3 "Rangers" 0 - Celtic win comfortably and are top of the league with maximum points from four games.
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Just booked flights for the Bayern game. Are there any decent places in the city centre that i'd be able to work from on the wednesday / thursday? Will likely need to take a lot of work calls so can't be too lively.
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Just booked flights for the Bayern game. Are there any decent places in the city centre that i'd be able to work from on the wednesday / thursday? Will likely need to take a lot of work calls so can't be too lively.
Go to a hotel bar order some drinks and just work from there i would say
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Just booked flights for the Bayern game. Are there any decent places in the city centre that i'd be able to work from on the wednesday / thursday? Will likely need to take a lot of work calls so can't be too lively.
The Grand Hotel has good WiFi and areas of the hotel that are quiet.
The staff are very helpful.
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Bologna in particular, look weaker than last Season. Their manager went to Juve and I think some of their best players were sold.
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Have a look at Regus premises. i know there's one at Great Park, Rubery. And you could catch a train from Longbridge to Aston. There's also a Premier Inn in Longbridge.
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Bologna in particular, look weaker than last Season. Their manager went to Juve and I think some of their best players were sold.
Thats good to know wanst sure how good and monaco were as i thought they were looking the stronger teams in pot 3 and 4
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Bologna in particular, look weaker than last Season. Their manager went to Juve and I think some of their best players were sold.
Calafiori went to Arsenal and Zirkzee went to Man Utd. But Motta going to Juventus is probably their biggest loss. Their captain Lewis Ferguson is also out for most of the Champions League games after getting crocked at the end of last season.
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Thanks for the tips, i've booked into the cube and they seem to have space for working so hopefully will do the job.
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
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When do tickets go on sale?
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
I think so too.
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
I think you are right. They beat us comfortably in the friendly. Going to be a big ask going there and getting a result
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
I think you are right. They beat us comfortably in the friendly. Going to be a big ask going there and getting a result
We probably won't need to. We could head (if need be) into the Celtic game on 6 or 7 points and still have a decent chance of qualifying. Getting 7 points from the first 7 games shouldn't be beyond us.
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
I think you are right. They beat us comfortably in the friendly. Going to be a big ask going there and getting a result
We'll have Martinez in goal and maybe we won't be playing with ten men after 41 minutes. And it won't be a pre-season friendly. FTF!
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I've got a feeling Leipzig will be our most difficult game.
I think you are right. They beat us comfortably in the friendly. Going to be a big ask going there and getting a result
We'll have Martinez in goal and maybe we won't be playing with ten men after 41 minutes. And it won't be a pre-season friendly. FTF!
For sure and we had no ollie. But even if a friendly they are still a very good side
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Uefa has announced a reduction on the maximum ticket prices that home clubs can charge away fans across the men's Champions League, Europa League and Conference League.
From this season the maximum price away fans will be charged is 60 euros in the Champions League, 40 euros in the Europa League and 20 euros in the Conference League.
Wonder if this will affect the prices for home fans?
Given the way Heck seems to be going with prices in general, and his apparent AVarice, can't seeing it having any effect.
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I was just pontificating on the fixtures - will we take 30000 to Bruges?
Brugge Police will not like another 30k brummies there, they still haven't got rid of the last load.
The Sherlock Holmes Street* Bruges City Game is a self-guided murder mystery tour that can be played in Bruges, Belgium........
*There may be a slight edit there...
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I know this might be daft but could / would Illing JR be able to offer pre game advice on set up, dead balls and general tactics prior to the Bologna game?
I suppose Luiz could advise Juventus but he might not even be playing ;)
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I know this might be daft but could / would Illing JR be able to offer pre game advice on set up, dead balls and general tactics prior to the Bologna game?
I suppose Luiz could advise Juventus but he might not even be playing ;)
Its a very strange situation to be in. Imagine he scores a winner against us? The fans wont be happy either will pur players. But it wouldnt be his fault
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWeQMc_XkAAhRgC?format=jpg&name=large)
Good start. 2nd in the table.
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#AVFC fans will pay a maximum of €60 (£50.50) for away Champions League tickets after UEFA introduced a pricing cap this season.
Next season, the Champions League cap on away tickets will be €50, the Europa League cap €35 and the Conference League maximum of €20 will remain.
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1830641167676969304
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
Wycombe will get moved and its like that still on a number of sites including the BBC when i looked earlier.
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
I hope we have the numbers as we have a league game inbetween as well i think. Gonna be alot of game time and travelling
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Worrying again?
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
I hope we have the numbers as we have a league game in between as well i think.
What time is that at? 18.45?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWeQMc_XkAAhRgC?format=jpg&name=large)
Good start. 2nd in the table.
Second and already qualified for the last 16 :D
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Just booked flights for the Bayern game. Are there any decent places in the city centre that i'd be able to work from on the wednesday / thursday? Will likely need to take a lot of work calls so can't be too lively.
There are plenty of work places at the Central Library.
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Hi all hope this OK to post. Hi I am currently doing a Football challenge where I need to watch a match at different levels and cups raising money for two charities LATCH Welsh Children's Cancer Charity and Prostate Cancer UK. I am thinking of adding a champions league match, europa league match and a conference league match. I would like to attend one of the following matches either juventus 27th November or against celtic on 28th January would I be able to get a ticket. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/iqLX2LjqCU2a1xtN/
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
Think Wycombe will be moved to around 24th September.
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
I hope we have the numbers as we have a league game in between as well i think.
What time is that at? 18.45?
Haha good one. That make me laugh 😂
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Celtic are charging £184 for a 4 match bundle.
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I'd be happy with that for Villa.
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I'd be happy with that for Villa.
I think you can dream on that one. If they do it which I strongly suspect they won’t it’ll be at least £200 for Z4 and 3 and £250 -£300 for Zone 1 and 2.
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I'd be happy with that for Villa.
I think you can dream on that one. If they do it which I strongly suspect they won’t it’ll be at least £200 for Z4 and 3 and £250 -£300 for Zone 1 and 2.
It’s obviously a lot but I wouldn’t be too unhappy if it was towards the higher end of your estimate given it’s £70 odd for cat A games anyway. I’d expect ticket prices to be considerably higher than that.
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£70+ is obscene but the club know they'll shift the tickets so, take it or leave it I suppose.
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I reckon there's a good chance Celtic would be higher if they had more glamorous home ties.
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Less of a novelty to them, I suppose, too.
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That's what I meant, when in it pretty much every year then RB, SB, YB and CB isn't really going to pump their nads.
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
I hope we have the numbers as we have a league game in between as well i think.
What time is that at? 18.45?
Haha good one. That make me laugh 😂
One of Brazilian's best ones for sure.
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£70+ is obscene but the club know they'll shift the tickets so, take it or leave it I suppose.
They've already sold a load because lots of ST holders have already agreed to buy them with no return option or confirmed price.
Unless I was the only one who ticked that box! :-[
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Where can I check if I ticked the box to automatically buy cup and Euro tickets? I've gone round and around my account details.
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£70+ is obscene but the club know they'll shift the tickets so, take it or leave it I suppose.
They've already sold a load because lots of ST holders have already agreed to buy them with no return option or confirmed price.
Unless I was the only one who ticked that box! :-[
I rang the club to check that I'd ticked the box: I did, do you're not alone!
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Meatball being asked about Villa v Celtic in the Scotland press conference;
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£70+ is obscene but the club know they'll shift the tickets so, take it or leave it I suppose.
They've already sold a load because lots of ST holders have already agreed to buy them with no return option or confirmed price.
Unless I was the only one who ticked that box! :-[
I rang the club to check that I'd ticked the box: I did, do you're not alone!
I bet there were a lot of us!
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Presumably tickets for Bayern will go on sale within the next week or so?
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Is it just me, or is Young Boys just a bit weird, given they are the Wankdorf Young Boys?
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Celtic fans saying they expect Villa away to be their most expensive CL ticket
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Celtic fans saying they expect Villa away to be their most expensive CL ticket
Yep, £70 + a replacement pair of shoes and socks.
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Does anyone have any idea when the season ticket holder have to purchase their CL tickets by? I am not one so have a vested interest.
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I have just spoken to the club to confirm I have ticked the box. They expect to send emails to season ticket holders shortly but no info has been released yet. So I don't know where ticket prices etc. have come from.
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Is it just me, or is Young Boys just a bit weird, given they are the Wankdorf Young Boys?
Just you.
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Celtic fans can't be charged £70+ for a ticket due to UEFA setting a price cap for away fans tickets of 60 euro's
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Ticket Details;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/04/champions-league-ticket-details/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/04/champions-league-ticket-details/)
£79 for season ticket holders zones 1 & 2.
£70 for season ticket holders zones 3 & 4.
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Announced just after the FFP article… genius stuff
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£94 for non-season ticket holders. Holy moly.
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Not great.
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With a full house and 3 points, we'd make about £5m a game. Bloody hell.
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Ticketmaster style dynamic pricing on it's way before long.
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Someone posted up Liverpool's CL prices. Maximum £61 for a ticket.
These prices are horrendous and means I can only do two at most. I ticked the box on that renewal form so I hope that doesn’t mean I’m committed to all four.
Not surprised in the slightest though. Fans being absolutely ripped for every single penny Heck can take.
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It's an absurd amount of money. Unless you remove all context and ask how much would pay to watch us smash up Bayern Munich or Juventus at home to 2016 me, in which case it would have been 1 kidney please my good man.
That will soon wear off when we're paying fortunes year in year out and Champions League becomes the norm.
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Someone posted up Liverpool's CL prices. Maximum £61 for a ticket.
These prices are horrendous and means I can only do two at most. I ticked the box on that renewal form so I hope that doesn’t mean I’m committed to all four.
Not surprised in the slightest though. Fans being absolutely ripped for every single penny Heck can take.
I understood it that you are committed to all four and they are non-refundable.
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£94, absolute pisstake.
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Apparently, Newcastle's were £55 for the group stage.
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Wow, just seen the prices, as a member this is absolutely disgusting, I was expecting CAT A prices, not this much
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Even if we pay it, like a lot of us will I find it disgusting. £79 a game and I hope they aren’t going to dip into my bank for all 4 at once.
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and £30 for a kid!!!
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What I expected unfortunately, the robbing bastards!
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Robbing fuckers!!!!
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Perhaps this will get us some media coverage!
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Fookin hell. Who's in charge of pricing, Dick Turpin?
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Fookin hell. Who's in charge of pricing, Dick Turpin?
Nah, his evil cousin Heck Turpin.
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Had these prices been discussed with any fan representation groups??
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Probably in the same way the new, new badge was...
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If you all haven't got the message yet, this will help.
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Not being familiar with the zones, does that mean £70 a seat for Lower Holte L5?
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I think so.
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Knockout stage conference away game allocation used Euro Home game attendance as part of criteria last season too, so anyone wanting to go on those away trips this season are going to have to sell some organs!
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Pricing is a joke but is it really that much of a shock?
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Sadly this is what i expected
It will help with FFP but its a fucking lot of money
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Sod the heating, I’ll be looking for Champions League tickets allowance in a few years.
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Pricing is a joke but is it really that much of a shock?
Not really but I was hoping I’d get a discount for having the miss 15 minutes of the Arsenal game and having to stand in piss.
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It's not all bad news though, you'll be able to watch the stiffs lose in the first round of the league cup to Hull City for £25.
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Imagine if we made the Semis; Heck would charge £1000 for a ticket.
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Pricing is a joke but is it really that much of a shock?
Not really but I was hoping I’d get a discount for having the miss 15 minutes of the Arsenal game and having to stand in piss.
We will probably be charging extra for that in a few seasons ‘ the authentic 1980s Holte end experience’
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Pricing is a joke but is it really that much of a shock?
Not really but I was hoping I’d get a discount for having the miss 15 minutes of the Arsenal game and having to stand in piss.
We will probably be charging extra for that in a few seasons ‘ the authentic 1980s Holte end experience’
Don’t give him ideas!
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Been going 45 years missing very few home matches but this is the breaking point for me and won't be going, it leaves such a bitter taste and I don't think at this stage I'll even follow it.
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Been going 45 years missing very few home matches but this is the breaking point for me and won't be going, it leaves just a bitter taste and I don't think at this stage I'll even follow it.
I can't tell if your post is about going to the match or going to the stadium toilet.
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When do they go on sale?
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When do they go on sale?
After we've robbed the bank.
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It's a no from me. I won't be paying that.
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In a way Heck has done a great job of conditioning us for this outrage when I’m thinking ‘that’s about what I expected’
Fucking insane really that I will almost certainly pay it.
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Those supporters without STs who pay what is listed we'll probably see punted to the front of any queue for future STs. They don't just want supporters with some expendable income, they want those with lots of it.
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It's not all bad news though, you'll be able to watch the stiffs lose in the first round of the league cup to Hull City for £25.
Plus you get to see 4 CL home games for less than the cost of an Oasis ticket.
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I expected an increase but not that much.
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What they don't realise is the stadium atmosphere will be shite because of this too. The long term noisy, passionate diehards priced out of supporting their team and being replaced with half n half scarf wearing YouTuber cnuts.
Season Ticket holders at the very least should have been given a HEAVY block discount. Totally shot themselves in the foot here.
What's the point in wishing for a successful football club if you can't afford to watch that successful football club. Fans were there when they were shit, and now they've hit the bright lights, they've forgotten us.
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£75-79 was about what I expected, to be honest.
I paid £18 for large chips and two mini-fish the other day, so it's everything these days.
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What was the point in agreeing to buy the four tickets when you took your season ticket out? Surely you get first refusal on them anyway for games that aren't included?
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Been going 45 years missing very few home matches but this is the breaking point for me and won't be going, it leaves such a bitter taste and I don't think at this stage I'll even follow it.
I’m sad to read this Charlie.
It’s bizarre that the lesson seems to have been learned on the domestic cup pricing, but perhaps that feels enabled by the CL hike. Seeing Newcastle & Liverpool prices brings it home, I’d certainly imagined naively it’d be the already hiked up match day Cat A prices,
My £33.83 ST price (£55 match day) more than doubling to £70,(£85 non STH)
It’ll certainly grab some headlines. Rightly so. £85/£94 to see Bologna? Will it sell out? I guess this season at least for the novelty of hearing the CL music it will, but less attractive ties if we get there again.
I do get the need to raise funds, but we come back to Charlie and many like him.
And many of us the can’t really afford it, but still might :/
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So which zone is the Upper Holte in?
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Dear me, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Tone deaf.
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This is one of the failures of PSR. It doesn't just destroy any real competition in the PL, but fans will pay the price as clubs try to compete.
I'd be surprised if Bologna sells out.
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Yup I guess Bologna will be one to watch on TV
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I'll probably go to Bayern and Juventus but give the other two a swerve.
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So which zone is the Upper Holte in?
(https://i.ibb.co/dP3KZPz/IMG-3106.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dP3KZPz)
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When do they go on sale?
They’re on Ticketmaster now, hurry though it’s dynamic
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What was the point in agreeing to buy the four tickets when you took your season ticket out? Surely you get first refusal on them anyway for games that aren't included?
So you don't have to go and book them up, they are already paid for and added. Not being able to say no to a match though it shit.
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I'd always vowed to look at both prices and opposition before I made my decision and were we not playing BM, Juve and Celtic I'm not sure I would be going to anything other than the first game. I'll probably give Bologna a miss purely down to cost.
Coming so soon after the Oasis ticket thing (not that I was involved at all) it feels that gap between what the majority can afford and the cost of tickets is now becoming too wide for those wishing to attend big gigs and big matches. I've already given up on Springsteen, I still love and listen to his music but I have no value to him as a fan, it's measured purely in what I can pay. As I expected, it will happen sooner rather than later with Aston Villa, that tipping point is almost here. I'll still follow Villa, watch every game I can on TV but the thrill of attending football matches at Villa Park is being moved gradually beyond my reach.
I'm growing old and can remember travelling the country and attending every home game on a YTS wage in 87/88, now if sounds like utter fantasy.
What a fucking awful shame.
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Certainly won't be going to Bologna and probably not Celtic either.
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What was the point in agreeing to buy the four tickets when you took your season ticket out? Surely you get first refusal on them anyway for games that aren't included?
So you don't have to go and book them up, they are already paid for and added. Not being able to say no to a match though it shit.
Not much of a benefit that is it? Especially when measured against the risk of the club absolutely rinsing you on the unannounced (at the point of sale) ticket prices.
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Seeing Newcastle & Liverpool prices brings it home, I’d certainly imagined naively it’d be the already hiked up match day Cat A prices,
I wonder if we would be as high if we had 10 to 20k more seats in out ground?
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What was the point in agreeing to buy the four tickets when you took your season ticket out? Surely you get first refusal on them anyway for games that aren't included?
So you don't have to go and book them up, they are already paid for and added. Not being able to say no to a match though it shit.
Not much of a benefit that is it? Especially when measured against the risk of the club absolutely rinsing you on the unannounced (at the point of sale) ticket prices.
Not stating it was a good benefit, just stating a reason why ticking the box might have been worth it for some who don't have to worry on ticket prices.
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I'll probably go to Bayern and Juventus but give the other two a swerve.
Probably the same intention. But I can imagine changing my mind when Celtic gets closer, particularly if there's anything riding on it.
For any ST holder who goes to all 4, that's a 60 quid theoretical saving. The truth is the kick in the balls is just that little bit less severe.
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cx2y6kdk4z0o
Fans criticise 'dynamic pricing' at Valencia
Didn't take long, Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing.
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Being shit was definitely cheaper. £2k on flights, £450 on home tickets for me and the lad, probably another grand in accommodation costs. Then maybe another £200-300 in tickets. Maybe a £500 in spends, perhpas more with rail costs out in these places. Fuuuuuucking hell.
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I see there’s nothing on the YB’s away game yet. Any idea when that’ll be announced?
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The more season ticket holders that don’t take their seats up the happier that Heck & co will be…flog everything at premium prices…even better if senior concessions don’t go.
Wonder if press want to step up now & properly criticise Heck…had it pretty easy after the Arsenal farce
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I love this bit:
"It wouldn’t be fair for someone who planned ahead and bought a ticket early to pay the same as someone who waited until the last minute"
Why? They're getting exactly the same thing. A thin excuse to cover up ripping people off.
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A spokesperson for the Football Supporters' Association (FSA), which represents fans in England and Wales, said: "With impeccable timing after the Oasis fiasco, voices in football have started to float the idea of infecting football with dynamic pricing.
"Never underestimate the potential for the most greedy owners in football to try and import terrible ideas from other industries to exploit supporter loyalty".
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Does anyone know, what does a non season ticket holder pay for a Category A game in the Lower Holte?
At these prices, I will probably only attend the Bayern Munich game.
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I love this bit:
"It wouldn’t be fair for someone who planned ahead and bought a ticket early to pay the same as someone who waited until the last minute"
Why? They're getting exactly the same thing. A thin excuse to cover up ripping people off.
This. What the fuck has it got to do with them whether people plan in advance?! There will come a time in the not-distant future when they'll be begging for last-minute ticket sales (and they won't be on sale at the prices the early planners paid).
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The ticket prices are more or less what I expected. Given the quality of the teams we've been drawn against the demand will be there to sell, even at those prices.
I've waited too long to see us at this level again & I'll stump up the money but I can understand that it's a step too far for some.
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This is why Heck was OK with binning the North stand rebuild.
Fewer seats, high demand, high ticket prices.
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(https://i.ibb.co/VCMNbHp/Screenshot-2024-09-04-14-32-08.png) (https://ibb.co/VCMNbHp)
Edit: well I fucked that up!
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I see there’s nothing on the YB’s away game yet. Any idea when that’ll be announced?
Knowing our ticket office, about three days before the game.
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As a season ticket holder I will be investing more for one CL game than Brady paid for his holding in Small Heath.
Now who is the bigger club, noses?
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I see there’s nothing on the YB’s away game yet. Any idea when that’ll be announced?
Knowing our ticket office, about three days before the game.
It could be the home team delaying things but you’d like to think we’d know by now.
I’ve got 2 away from last season so it’s doubtful I’ll get one but I’d like know before flight prices become ridiculous.
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No way I'm paying those prices, Jose!
Looks like it'll be listening to the radio & then catching highlights later on my phone/telly. What a kick in the (metaphorical) balls by the club after all these years of waiting. I'll be surprised if the games sell out.
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Whilst i get why they are doing it, those prices are absolutely outrageous. I hate to think what a quarter/semi final ticket would cost.
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Whilst i get why they are doing it, those prices are absolutely outrageous. I hate to think what a quarter/semi final ticket would cost.
I did have a re-read of it to see if it said in any way that these prices only applied to the league stage, but it does seem to look like they are for the whole competition.
Until they announce they aren't, that is.
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I did read it a few times thinking, nah, must be for UCL season ticket. Outrageous.
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Whilst i get why they are doing it, those prices are absolutely outrageous. I hate to think what a quarter/semi final ticket would cost.
I did have a re-read of it to see if it said in any way that these prices only applied to the league stage, but it does seem to look like they are for the whole competition.
Until they announce they aren't, that is.
I don't think you can read anything ither way into it. It says "Champions League campaign" but also four matches.
If we get further and they feel they can charge more, they will.
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And they wonder why people stream games illegally.
Ridiculous ticket prices, no way I can afford that.
Heck can Feck Off!!
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Article in The Athletic;
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/)
"Aston Villa refused a request from their own fan advisory board (FAB) to cap the price of Champions League tickets with the cheapest adult entry now starting at £70."
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Article in The Athletic;
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/)
Pay wall, can a techie give another link?
"Aston Villa refused a request from their own fan advisory board (FAB) to cap the price of Champions League tickets with the cheapest adult entry now starting at £70."
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
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Article in The Athletic;
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/)
"Aston Villa refused a request from their own fan advisory board (FAB) to cap the price of Champions League tickets with the cheapest adult entry now starting at £70."
Pay wall, can a techie give another link?
https://archive.ph/LNyOI (https://archive.ph/LNyOI)
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
There's no connection with the Oasis tickets really.
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
There's no connection with the Oasis tickets really.
Other than people being ripped off over the price of tickets being in the national headlines for the last 5 days? The method of the rip-off might be different here, but the nuance of that isn't what's getting people talking - it's the principle. Look at the message board of other clubs, everyone is already talking about our prices being a disgrace.
Get something organised now whilst it's a national topic, and we might be able to get them to back down at least a little.
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I signed the petition against Wolves price increases, but that was because I thought it would be funny if they had even less money to spend than they did already.
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
There's no connection with the Oasis tickets really.
It's the overpricing of tickets, of course there is.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
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Article in The Athletic;
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/)
"Aston Villa refused a request from their own fan advisory board (FAB) to cap the price of Champions League tickets with the cheapest adult entry now starting at £70."
On top of the rivers of piss after the first home game, we're starting to get a bit of negative coverage.
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
There's no connection with the Oasis tickets really.
Other than people being ripped off over the price of tickets being in the national headlines for the last 5 days? The method of the rip-off might be different here, but the nuance of that isn't what's getting people talking - it's the principle. Look at the message board of other clubs, everyone is already talking about our prices being a disgrace.
Get something organised now whilst it's a national topic, and we might be able to get them to back down at least a little.
Thats just it. The Oasis tickets in some cases ending up being £300+. Tbe vast majority paid the face value. Im not suggesting for a minute we havent overcharged because we have but the Oasis thing was different.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
That feels about right to me.
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This has the potential to go down very badly for Heck and the club, off the back of the Oasis tickets debacle this is a hot topic at the moment and the national media are picking up on it.
https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1831316181619290571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Somehow an organised protest/statement from supporters groups needs to be made very quickly. After the disgrace that was the Arsenal game there is a chance here to get something changed.
There's no connection with the Oasis tickets really.
Other than people being ripped off over the price of tickets being in the national headlines for the last 5 days? The method of the rip-off might be different here, but the nuance of that isn't what's getting people talking - it's the principle. Look at the message board of other clubs, everyone is already talking about our prices being a disgrace.
Get something organised now whilst it's a national topic, and we might be able to get them to back down at least a little.
Thats just it. The Oasis tickets in some cases ending up being £300+. Tbe vast majority paid the face value. Im not suggesting for a minute we havent overcharged because we have but the Oasis thing was different.
It's still the principle - people looking at the national coverage won't be looking at how it's been done, just the fact that it has. It's relevant because Heck literally could not have picked a worse time to announce a pricing structure like this, and the fact that everyone is picking up on it is because it has been a dominant theme in the news cycle over the last week. For someone who is supposed to be a marketing genius it is a pretty dumb move, and one the club will have to row back on if enough pressure is applied.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
That feels about right to me.
Yep, and Celtic could use the same excuse as Heck to charge more - they could sell their ground out twice, there’s always someone further down the queue wiling to pay - but they decided not to.
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This is all over media outlets and social media, so much bad press, the club will be seeing it, let's hope they act like Wolves did
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Just for anyone like me who “ticked the box” but draws the line at those prices….
I contacted Villa support on Twitter, and they will take you out of the cup scheme if you ask.
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It was 20 Gulders to see us beat Bayern in the final in 1982.
That's just under £15 in today's money - accounting for inflation.
https://x.com/KieranMaguire/status/1831330291350184413?t=GTk_zWJgQCb8CnwljiRSOw&s=08
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Thought if you signed up for the Champions League tickets package, there was no refund if you couldn't attend any of the games
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Just for anyone like me who “ticked the box” but draws the line at those prices….
I contacted Villa support on Twitter, and they will take you out of the cup scheme if you ask.
I'm pleased they will give people that option.
I suspect that they would have to anyway, having effectively sold them without a price and over the internet.
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We all want the club to compete, we're playing against elite clubs Bayern, Juventus & a lesser extent Celtic in an elite competition for the first time in 40 years. The prices will reflect that. Other clubs have been in the CL for decades & their prices reflect that. It's not a straight comparison.
You could argue there's a balance between getting maximum revenue & rewarding loyalty but the club are obviously targeting the former. We were never going to pay less to watch Bayern in the CL than Wolves in the PL. It's no coincidence the article in the Athletic was released today.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
That feels about right to me.
I was expecting more than that to be honest. I thought maybe £55-60.
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£175 per match for me and my boys as only Claret members.. Went to most home games last season and all the Conference home matches. Were looking forward to Champions League but not sure I can do this.
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We all want the club to compete, we're playing against elite clubs Bayern, Juventus & a lesser extent Celtic in an elite competition for the first time in 40 years. The prices will reflect that. Other clubs have been in the CL for decades & their prices reflect that. It's not a straight comparison.
You could argue there's a balance between getting maximum revenue & rewarding loyalty but the club are obviously targeting the former & it's no coincidence the article in the Athletic was released today.
There is no excuse for our prices - Newcastle were in the same position last season, and charged significantly less. The club could charge £20 less per ticket and it won't make that much difference to the PSR position.
Lots of fans (myself included) are already having to make choices about which games to attend this season, and with these prices a trip to watch the Bayern game will mean as a family we won't be able to afford at least a couple of league games. Is Heck that confident we will sell out against the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford or Southampton? Yes we will probably sell out the CL games, but don;t be surprised if we have thousands of empty seats at other matches as a result.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
That feels about right to me.
I was expecting more than that to be honest. I thought maybe £55-60.
I was expecting them to go up to the eye watering prices they have been set at, but I just feel the Celtic price of £50 is what Id feel was about fair.
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I'm not sure you can easily compare club by club.
Newcastle's revenue was already higher than hours, so that gave them a bit more leeway. Also, pricing on many items is a lot cheaper in the North.
Also, we've shown over the last couple of seasons that we are being far more aggressive in trying to establish ourselves back among the elite. You can argue that Newcastle haven't managed to keep up and their being limited by PSR is also holding them back, but they seem more accepting of it.
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I fancy a whiny email!
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We all want the club to compete, we're playing against elite clubs Bayern, Juventus & a lesser extent Celtic in an elite competition for the first time in 40 years. The prices will reflect that. Other clubs have been in the CL for decades & their prices reflect that. It's not a straight comparison.
You could argue there's a balance between getting maximum revenue & rewarding loyalty but the club are obviously targeting the former & it's no coincidence the article in the Athletic was released today.
There is no excuse for our prices - Newcastle were in the same position last season, and charged significantly less. The club could charge £20 less per ticket and it won't make that much difference to the PSR position.
Lots of fans (myself included) are already having to make choices about which games to attend this season, and with these prices a trip to watch the Bayern game will mean as a family we won't be able to afford at least a couple of league games. Is Heck that confident we will sell out against the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford or Southampton? Yes we will probably sell out the CL games, but don;t be surprised if we have thousands of empty seats at other matches as a result.
Empty seats in the lower Witton Lane against Arsenal would point to the fact you are correct.
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They'll have been sold, but just not taken up. Couple in front of me never do the first couple of home games every year.
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They'll have been sold, but just not taken up. Couple in front of me never do the first couple of home games every year.
The block next to the away fans was half empty. Not a few seats here and there but half of one block empty. I presumed they were GA+ seats.
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Horrendous prices, club should be ashamed.
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What's Lee Preece email? I feel like muttering quietly into a void.
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What's Lee Preece email? I feel like muttering quietly into a void.
lee.preece@avfc.co.uk
Absolute piss take
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Who is Lee Preece?
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Who is Lee Preece?
He is Dan Bardell.
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What's Lee Preece email? I feel like muttering quietly into a void.
lee.preece@avfc.co.uk
Absolute piss take
Thank you
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Horrendous prices, club should be ashamed.
Absolutely!
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I'm getting more messages from other fans about this than I have about the actual football.
It's utterly opportunistic shite.
I hate when the club gets bad press, but for this it's well deserved.
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What's Lee Preece email? I feel like muttering quietly into a void.
Or
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk.
He replied to me re Arsenal but think he’ll have a script.
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Article in The Athletic;
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/ (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744092/2024/09/04/aston-villa-refuse-request-from-fan-advisory-board-to-cap-champions-league-ticket-prices/)
"Aston Villa refused a request from their own fan advisory board (FAB) to cap the price of Champions League tickets with the cheapest adult entry now starting at £70."
Presuming accuracy, interestesting context points of info in the article
"For comparison, the cheapest Champions League final tickets at Wembley in June were £60."
"Before the start of the campaign and following consultation with FAB, Villa agreed to limit the price increase on an adult season ticket to five per cent, with all but one Premier League club freezing their prices."
Presumably decisions not to have the usual 4 pricing bands and not categorise the fixtures are income maximising attempts,
We all want the club to compete, we're playing against elite clubs Bayern, Juventus & a lesser extent Celtic in an elite competition for the first time in 40 years. The prices will reflect that. Other clubs have been in the CL for decades & their prices reflect that. It's not a straight comparison.
You could argue there's a balance between getting maximum revenue & rewarding loyalty but the club are obviously targeting the former & it's no coincidence the article in the Athletic was released today.
There is no excuse for our prices - Newcastle were in the same position last season, and charged significantly less. The club could charge £20 less per ticket and it won't make that much difference to the PSR position.
Lots of fans (myself included) are already having to make choices about which games to attend this season, and with these prices a trip to watch the Bayern game will mean as a family we won't be able to afford at least a couple of league games. Is Heck that confident we will sell out against the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford or Southampton? Yes we will probably sell out the CL games, but don;t be surprised if we have thousands of empty seats at other matches as a result.
Interesting points here. We are about to find out the depth of Villa fan pockets.
Interesting way to mark the anniversary last year of taking away the free League Cup game, charging £30-£38 and putting an embargo on the low attendance...
Also a German tweet
Jon Darch
@SafeStandingRS
By comparison, as a Union Berlin fan I paid €75 for a 3-match Champions League 'season ticket' last year (i.e. €25 per game, carriage and presentation souvenir pack included).
Pricing in England really does need looking at.
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I'd like to take my nephew to his 1st ever game, but with the likely hood of only getting 2 seats together being the most expensive at £97 (for child means I won't be . Absolutely disgusting prices for an under 18.
1 potential fan & one 40+ yrs as a regular potentially lost fan.
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If emailing Lee Preece please don't take it on him. He's a really good bloke that works very hard for Villa, and fans, and he didn't set the prices.
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My excitement for this competition died in an instant this afternoon. The club are an absolute disgrace. Those of us that sat through those dire afternoons for a decade only get a kick in the bollocks with this take it or leave it price hike.
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Emails to the club are one thing, but we really could do with some kind of message from all of the various fan groups ASAP. We are getting loads of support across other clubs message boards, social media and mainstream press today, we need to make some proper noise about this and force a climbdown. If we do and there isn't any reduction then I suspect Everton next Saturday is going to be very interesting and instructive for Heck and the board.
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(https://i.ibb.co/HXtTdvB/IMG-3107.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HXtTdvB)
Yep word is out & loud.
Totally agree on the misreading the room, the Oasis fandango and the Govt looking into people being ripped off definitely boosts this story.
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Emails to the club are one thing, but we really could do with some kind of message from all of the various fan groups ASAP. We are getting loads of support across other clubs message boards, social media and mainstream press today, we need to make some proper noise about this and force a climbdown. If we do and there isn't any reduction then I suspect Everton next Saturday is going to be very interesting and instructive for Heck and the board.
Email back from Lee
Many thanks Bas
We have received a lot of feedback as I am sure is of no surprise.
I will be passing on all the feedback accordingly.
Best wishes
Lee
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I'm thinking I won't go to any league cup or FA cup games to help cover the budget. But then there's FOMO if we get to a final and you need history to get a ticket.
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Just seen this too FFS
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2y6kdk4z0o
The average fan is fucked !
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My excitement for this competition died in an instant this afternoon. The club are an absolute disgrace. Those of us that sat through those dire afternoons for a decade only get a kick in the bollocks with this take it or leave it price hike.
It was the first time it even occurred to me that I might not go to all the home games. Before today that was unthinkable. Now I'm at 2-3 max.
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Just seen this too FFS
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2y6kdk4z0o
The average fan is fucked !
I’m surprised by nothing to do with football now. Football will eat itself in this country if it’s not careful, as it did in Italy in the 90’s.
Paying players 100’s of thousands a week and charging the fan more to do it may seem great to the media outlets that promote it but it’s not sustainable.
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Response within 5 minutes. Fair play to the bloke.
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The clubs can't keep up with player inflation - transfer fees, agents and wages. It is and will continue to kill the top level of the game. It is heading more and more to an American sports model. If you think football players get paid well, check out a top NFL, NBA player contract...
Now add in Saudi to the mix - Toney, £400k a week..
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I used to laugh at Twitter accounts that highlighted extortionate concession prices at US sports venues like £15 for a can of gnats piss beer. Now I realise that's all coming here.
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The club will make a fortune just by playing in this competition - why the hell are these people so greedy that they need to price the fans out of enjoying it.
I really do hate this club I love.
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I was hoping to go to Bayern, Juve, maybe Celtic. Now only Juve. I'd be amazed if Bologna sells out.
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I was hoping to go to Bayern, Juve, maybe Celtic. Now only Juve. I'd be amazed if Bologna sells out.
Yeah, it's one of the three for me, just on point of principle.
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Does anyone know, what does a non season ticket holder pay for a Category A game in the Lower Holte?
At these prices, I will probably only attend the Bayern Munich game.
I paid £78 for Arsenal in Zone 1
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
This is in no way to defend the prices but Celtic’ capacity is what 60k that’s half the reason for the prices, add in we’ve not played in the competition for 40 odd years and the general GA prices for normal league games it’s no surprise that they’re milking this as much as they can.
It’ll price many loyal fans out of going but there’ll be plenty to take up the slack and they know it.
Modern football ay!!
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A Lower Doug Ellis over 66 Season Ticket costs £618 = £34.33 per home game.
The same seat for Bayern etc. will cost £73.50 per game.
A 114.1% increase.
That's how to reward longstanding fans.
Price them out.
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Celtic’s home Champions’ League tickets are £49.
This is in no way to defend the prices but Celtic’ capacity is what 60k that’s half the reason for the prices, add in we’ve not played in the competition for 40 odd years and the general GA prices for normal league games it’s no surprise that they’re milking this as much as they can.
It’ll price many loyal fans out of going but there’ll be plenty to take up the slack and they know it.
Modern football ay!!
Celtic also play in Scotland and have a fraction of the TV money we get, as well as playing 90% of their other games against League 2 standard opposition - if anything they should be charging a lot more than us for Champions League.
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Sums it up;
https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524 (https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524)
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It's massively depressing but in part a product of a ludicrous set of financial rules which mean the club have to wring every last penny out of every revenue making opportunity. If every fan in the ground pays £20 more for their ticket, that's an additional £800K for each game and £3.2 million for the three group games alone. Everything about modern football stinks and like others, I'll be at 1-2 of these games but have mates who won't be paying the prices. I'm glad I don't have to fork out for kids to go along as well.
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Sums it up;
https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524 (https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524)
Although I would like to know why out average weekly wage in Birmingham is less then Liverpool and Manchester.
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Sums it up;
https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524 (https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/1831369129552400524)
Although I would like to know why out average weekly wage in Birmingham is less then Liverpool and Manchester.
More young people under the age of 21, probably. Birmingham being the youngest city in the UK.
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Not sure if it has already been mentioned but I’ve just seen one of the members of the Fan Advisory Board has just resigned their position. Can H&V follow suit?
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Not unexpected unfortunately, but shocking what they are asking for over 66s and wheelchair users especially.
£85 Adult wheelchair bay. The effort and aggro just to get to the stadium for them, then part with £85.
The club are scoring own goals for fun at the moment.
Hearing people saying they won't be going to CL matches is very depressing.
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So which zone is the Upper Holte in?
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Thanks
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Not sure if it has already been mentioned but I’ve just seen one of the members of the Fan Advisory Board has just resigned their position. Can H&V follow suit?
Should be up to individuals, no point pressuring folks.
But it is sad to see what a shambles off the pitch has been over the past year or so. One thing we always had, in good or bad times, was class.
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I wonder if Ger can cancel his flights?
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I bet if we get in home games in the cups the attendence will be around 20k people wont bother going as they spent so much in CL. Probably same with some undesirable league games e.g fulham at home, palace etc
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Didn’t we have all this talk when they put prices up 10%?
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Maybe today was the wrong time to ask for messages to put in the matchday programme… ;D
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/04/submit-a-message-for-the-matchday-programme/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/04/submit-a-message-for-the-matchday-programme/)
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I can't believe Frank is in the programme, again.
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Sky news have a piece about ticket prices and we are mentioned on their website as fans backlash at prices. Glad its getting some media coverage.
As much as i an not happy about this i blams the premier league. Because of all this crap FFP heck is having to do shit like this and screw over the fans
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Show me the way to Barcelona
Bayern Munich and a bank loana
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Sky news have a piece about ticket prices and we are mentioned on their website as fans backlash at prices. Glad its getting some media coverage.
As much as i an not happy about this i blams the premier league. Because of all this crap FFP heck is having to do shit like this and screw over the fans
He really doesn’t, it’s lowest common denominator stuff.
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Show me the way to Barcelona
Bayern Munich and a bank loana
That got an LOL (as the kids say).
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The sad fact is the club couldn't give a shit if I don't take up the offer of a 'discounted' £79 ticket as they'd rather someone pays 90+ sheets like an affluent tourist or a vlogger like that wanker Thogden and his colossal prick of a Dad waving their cameras around.
The absolute fucking state of it all. Yes, I'm fuming.
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Parasites .
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Show me the way to Barcelona
Bayern Munich and a bank loana
"Champions League, we're having a laugh"
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Teams from Pot 1 Pot 2 Pot 3 Pot 4, how can they justify same price to watch a Pot 4 team as a Pot 1 team? If these are the prices for the first round of league games what will the prices be if we get to knockout stages,.My guess, £120 last 16, £150 last 8, £200 semi final.Any advances on these prices or maybe dynamic pricing for all
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I'm genuinely not at all surprised.
Ground will be full and it will continue to be full for the foreseeable future. if you disagree with that then you can say thet commercially it's a poor decision but I think time will prove you wrong.
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So I pay my £79 pounds.
Drive to Tamebridge parkway.
Catch the crowded train to Witton, oh no that’s for away fans only.
Catch the crowed train to Aston.
Walk further to the ground.
Join the queues outside the Holte.
Wade through piss at half time.
Walk back to Witton Station, oh no see point 3.
Walk back to an overcrowded Aston station.
Get back late to Tamebridge.
Arrive home some time the following day.
This is the glamour of being back in Europe with Heck at the helm.
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I'm genuinely not at all surprised.
Ground will be full and it will continue to be full for the foreseeable future. if you disagree with that then you can say thet commercially it's a poor decision but I think time will prove you wrong.
It really won’t be full for a lot of games because of this. They didn’t sell out Arsenal, the games against Bournemouth and Brentford which follow CL games will have thousands of empty seats and his GA+ bollocks will have next to no custom. Overall the club will make little to no extra money from this catastrophic decision.
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Villa have meant a lot to me.Now,I know what I mean to the Villa.A person who possesses a piece of plastic and who they would like to replace with someone whose plastic has bigger purchasing power.
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Sky news have a piece about ticket prices and we are mentioned on their website as fans backlash at prices. Glad its getting some media coverage.
As much as i an not happy about this i blams the premier league. Because of all this crap FFP heck is having to do shit like this and screw over the fans
He really doesn’t, it’s lowest common denominator stuff.
I get it but do you not agree that PL are just as much to blame for us? All their corruption FFP unfairness is also the common dominator in this
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What a sad way to begin our Champions League campaign.
An absolute PR disaster for the club.
I've never known anyone who reads the room so badly as this guy.
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Not sure if it has already been mentioned but I’ve just seen one of the members of the Fan Advisory Board has just resigned their position. Can H&V follow suit?
Should be up to individuals, no point pressuring folks.
But it is sad to see what a shambles off the pitch has been over the past year or so. One thing we always had, in good or bad times, was class.
Wouldn’t want to pressure anyone into making a decision, but doing this is numbers is what is going to make the difference. The club clearly doesn’t take into the considerations and recommendations of the FAB, it seems like it’s there just to tick a box.
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I've never know anyone who reads the room so badly as this guy.
There are definitely one or two that spring to mind.
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Oasis are probably on the phone thanking Heck
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I'd like to take my nephew to his 1st ever game, but with the likely hood of only getting 2 seats together being the most expensive at £97 (for child means I won't be . Absolutely disgusting prices for an under 18.
1 potential fan & one 40+ yrs as a regular potentially lost fan.
Nobody running the club (and I include the owners) care about where the club is in decades from now. It is nothing but a business proposition to them. What matters most is the financial return that can be made in the short term (the financial year) and over the next five years. The likelihood is none of them will be here a decade from now.
Just remember whenever any of them talk about the heritage and history of our great club, it is purely bullshit marketing strategy to enhance the brand and increase revenue.
I know Doug was a twat and did very nicely financially out of the club, but he went to all the games (including junior games) and had in his own way an emotional involvement with the club.
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Oh fuck any Doug revisionism for crying out loud.
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Oh fuck any Doug revisionism for crying out loud.
I did start by saying he was a twat. Just pointing out how the nature of ownership has changed so much.
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Villa £97
Man City £72
Liverpool £61
Celtic £49
In the same competition
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Villa £97
Man City £72
Liverpool £61
Celtic £49
In the same competition
Arsenal ? I remember years ago they were charging £150 for a QF v Bayern
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Every time the Villa draw me back in they push me way twice as far. I always felt I was lucky not caring much about football generally but loving just going to VP and rocking up to be in the Holte. School holiday trips to just visit the ground. Taking my lad, introducing youngsters over the years. Going to Highbury for the semi-final replay with no money to get in and being helped out by my fellow Villans. Now in my 60's I have never felt so far away from my Villa. Just sad.
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Arsenal £74 -£106
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I guess we’ll never know - but surely this has to be driven in part at least by FFP - we need to generate revenue so we can stay competitive at this level and not have to sell our best players - like we did this season.
FFP removes the option for short term investment for long term gain. Every 25 on a ticket price adds 1m a match.
It’s horrid and alienating - but the system is literally in place to make this happen. The other clubs don’t have to exploit there fans as there revenue streams are big enough to not need to do this - combined with probably more price sensitivity from fans
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
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IF we've bombed out by the time the Celtic game comes around and neither side has a chance of progressing - even to the play-off stage, then Villa will have a Heck of a job to sell tickets at £97- £85 for a meaningless game for a mid-week game in January.
Obviously I hope that's not the case.
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IF we've bombed out by the time the Celtic game comes around and neither side has a chance of progressing - even to the play-off stage, then Villa will have a Heck of a job to sell tickets at £97- £85 for a meaningless mid-week game in January.
Obviously I hope that's not the case.
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Alternatively we could have qualified for playoff round with no chance of top 8, or even be in top 8 already, and the final game could just have some jostling for seeding positions on it. Again, wouldn't seem that appealing.
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Not surprised.
Everyone can see how quickly the prices have increased in last 2-3 years at prem level and the general disdain Heck has for the average fan. Mind you same would've happened with Purslow still around I'm sure.
This I'm afraid is what Football is in 2024 and has been for quite some time and with Bayern, Juve and Celtic coming up they were going to milk it up even further given it's a premium competition.
I would say this though, god help the club if they mess up the next manager to follow Unai and we drop back down the prem table.
We saw that happen on a lesser scale when O'Neill left and McLeish/Lambert replaced him and attendances went from 38k to 28k in two years.
The club are very complacent thinking we could just keep getting 42k at eye watering prices if we were stuck back in the bottom half as you're going to alienate too many of our "legacy" fanbase with these prices on top of the season tickets.
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As a non STH I will probably go to one of the latter 2 games. I won't take my lad to a night game as he is too young.
We haven't been in the competition for 4 decades and it has evolved beyond imagination in that time - marketing and commercially.
Comparing us to Liverpool, and more recent Cit-eh and Celtic this season is missing the point as they qualify regularly even Celtic. We don't and haven't for donkeys.
The club can get away (and that is what is) with charging high Arsenalesque prices this year alone - it is shit for regular fans but they can. Cit-eh have thousands of empty seats for non Premier League games.
If we win it or even get to SFs this year, it will be far worse on the pocket next season.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
I remember when all this site was fields.
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Thar she blows...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0mnye0kv9jo
Villa 'out of touch' over Champions League prices
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If people pay the prices they will keep doing it.
It needs people to wake up and tell them to fuck off.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
I remember when all this site was fields.
I remember when it was buildings.
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How the club see you walking to the ground
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So I pay my £79 pounds.
Drive to Tamebridge parkway.
Catch the crowded train to Witton, oh no that’s for away fans only.
Catch the crowed train to Aston.
Walk further to the ground.
Join the queues outside the Holte.
Wade through piss at half time.
Walk back to Witton Station, oh no see point 3.
Walk back to an overcrowded Aston station.
Get back late to Tamebridge.
Arrive home some time the following day.
This is the glamour of being back in Europe with Heck at the helm.
I understand the sentiments behind your post, but 1 point - We use Tame Bridge Parkway and we were able to get off at and back on at Witton for each of the ECL games last season.
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
I remember when all this site was fields.
I remember when it was buildings.
I remember 2004 when, aged 14-15, I used to buy 20 Bensons on the way to school, in uniform, and had change from a fiver. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I have change back from a £20 note, get IDd more often, and the govamunt wants to stop me smoking outdoors.
Vote Farage!
(Not to diminish the issue of ticket prices, of course.)
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
I remember when all this site was fields.
I remember when it was buildings.
I remember 2004 when, aged 14-15, I used to buy 20 Bensons on the way to school, in uniform, and had change from a fiver. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I have change back from a £20 note, get IDd more often, and the govamunt wants to stop me smoking outdoors.
Vote Farage!
(Not to diminish the issue of ticket prices, of course.)
I've seen your gorgeous mug but... who the f**k is ID'ing you? Does David Blunkett run a corner shop? 😉
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When we played Juventus in 1983 the average wage was £163 a week .
Holte End ticket was £3
Those were the days....
I remember when you had £10 it felt like £100
I remember when all this site was fields.
I remember when it was buildings.
I remember 2004 when, aged 14-15, I used to buy 20 Bensons on the way to school, in uniform, and had change from a fiver. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I have change back from a £20 note, get IDd more often, and the govamunt wants to stop me smoking outdoors.
Vote Farage!
(Not to diminish the issue of ticket prices, of course.)
To be fair, if you’re still going in to shops wearing your school uniform in your mid 30s, I’d be ID’ing you too.
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I suppose the cost of the tickets goes towards paying Emi's reported £200k a week wages.
I am still stunned at the cost of the tickets, spoke to my Wife about this last night, decided that I will only attend the Bayern Munich and Juventus games.
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Bunch of moaning minnies ! It's only £300 for all 4 games for an over-66. Pay for it with the winter fuel allowance.
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I suppose the cost of the tickets goes towards paying Emi's reported £200k a week wages.
I am still stunned at the cost of the tickets, spoke to my Wife about this last night, decided that I will only attend the Bayern Munich and Juventus games.
That’s where I’m at too, I’ve messaged AVFC support to ask if I can come out of the Champions League cup scheme.
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I suppose the cost of the tickets goes towards paying Emi's reported £200k a week wages.
I am still stunned at the cost of the tickets, spoke to my Wife about this last night, decided that I will only attend the Bayern Munich and Juventus games.
That’s where I’m at too, I’ve messaged AVFC support to ask if I can come out of the Champions League cup scheme.
I did exactly the same. They came back and just asked for our Fan ID’s.
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I emailed Lee and got a reply within 5 mins yesterday, saying that it would be shared with the senior management team
I was complaint no 599 from yesterday
As someone posted yesterday, Lee is not the person to direct any anger towards, but I would suggest that as many as possible put in complaints to the club regarding this pricing structure, the more that do it, the more chance there is that the club might take notice
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After all the seasons (38) of constantly renewing my season ticket - it is a kick in the balls by the club, we have all waited so long to see us have a successful team, that we can all be proud of and get behind, this was the opportunity by the club, to show how much we mean to them, but NO they want to rinse us all.
I was lucky that I have seen and was there to see the team that won the league and the European Cup etc.. but I just feel so let down.
For all those that go to the away games in Europe have a fantastic time, and enjoy every minute as they are so special.
Maybe after 38 seasons this will be my last.
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I get to a degree the high charge for say the Bayern and Juve games but not for the other two......why is there no package offer like last year?
I'm sure on the football side Emery would want a full stadium backing the team....unlike the Everton Cup game last season.
As a club we should be going into this historic campaign together, this will only create a divide. Very sad.
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Listening to BBC 5 Live driving into the office this morn. The Wake up to Money Journo, Will Bain I think it is, it transpires is a Villa fan. Must be fairly keen as well, he has already got accommodation and travel booked for Leipzig, it seems for the family. But he still managed to get a dig in about the Villa CL ticket prices, and dynamic pricing.
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It did strike me as odd that there were no sale dates announced (unless I have missed something?).
Perhaps the club were "putting it out there (see phrases thread elsewhere)" to gauge the reaction and may row back, much the same way the Wolfs did earlier in the summer?
And then claim to listen to the fans. Rather like Oasis have pretended to so with their extra dates just announced.
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Thar she blows...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0mnye0kv9jo
Villa 'out of touch' over Champions League prices
One of the comments below the article.
"Villa are back in this competition for the first time in 41 years and they decide to celebrate this momentous occasion by robbing their own fans.
Shameful, just shameful."
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After all the seasons (38) of constantly renewing my season ticket - it is a kick in the balls by the club, we have all waited so long to see us have a successful team, that we can all be proud of and get behind, this was the opportunity by the club, to show how much we mean to them, but NO they want to rinse us all.
I was lucky that I have seen and was there to see the team that won the league and the European Cup etc.. but I just feel so let down.
For all those that go to the away games in Europe have a fantastic time, and enjoy every minute as they are so special.
Maybe after 38 seasons this will be my last.
Season ticket holder since Dr Jo Venglos and my feelings are echoed in your post.
And the club won't give a damn for people like us who've paid for and sat through everything both good and bad.
I feel disconnected now after this.
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Aston Villa - putting the AV in avarice. I always thought Villa were a fairly moral club, but this is so out of touch. Villa want the hospitality fan, not the traditional one.
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Pulling out of the cup scheme but cherry picking the games you fancy (Bayern / Juve) simply plays into the hands of the greed . Just boycott ALL games
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Nobody can be surprised by these prices. We're playing in an elite competition against elite teams for the first time in 40+ years. The club have been highlighting the need to increase revenue to compete & without apology they'll bleed it dry. Have a look at the Corporate prices for these games.
We were run like a corner shop for decades & left miles behind our competitors as a result. That, PSR & the Premier League rules are the real culprit. Of course the club have a choice & they've chosen to fleece us. But from their point of view we either try & compete or we sit back & watch others do it.
I'll reluctantly pay the prices & I'm fortunate to be able to do so. But I feel for those with kids who are excited to see us play in the Champions League but are priced out. It would have killed me to tell my lads when they were young that you can't go.
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When has there ever been a successful boycott? Clubs know that the emotive nature of our support will always override this hence they take the piss. The only "boycott" is the one enforced by cost and that day is not far away. But those missing will just be replaced. By how many and how often is the risk the club is taking.
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When has there ever been a successful boycott? Clubs know that the emotive nature of our support will always override this hence they take the piss. The only "boycott" is the one enforced by cost and that day is not far away. But those missing will just be replaced. By how many and how often is the risk the club is taking.
Well i've been in the ground with attendances around 12k (Southampton H) , that was more down to the shocking state of affairs on the pitch . Now it's a shocking state of affairs off the pitch. Just as bad in many ways .
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It’s posturing at this stage I think calling for a boycott. It’s just inherently unlikely to work for the very reason they feel they can fleece fans so much.
The idea of turning the back to the pitch though, that could have legs, 82mim has been suggested, yet that would be a distraction for the team, as would anything prematch.
I think a direct action of some sort might be reasonable, but how to not adversely impact the team performance. Turning a back at full time feels an odd lack of appreciation of the players.
I woke up feeling sad about just how many have waited so so long and the are priced out of it.
Was trying to work out the Xmas morning analogy, the kid has waited so so long for his presents and can see them but is only allowed to watch others playing with his toys on TV. If he can afford a TV. Or something.
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The inflatable protest the season we got relegated worked - really visual, fun and wouldn't really affect the team on the pitch.
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Anti-Heck chanting is the best bet. His appointment and decision-making have accelerated the alienation. He gets paid to be in that role. I think that's the only way to get the message across to NSWE.
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It’s posturing at this stage I think calling for a boycott. It’s just inherently unlikely to work for the very reason they feel they can fleece fans so much.
The idea of turning the back to the pitch though, that could have legs, 82mim has been suggested, yet that would be a distraction for the team, as would anything prematch.
I think a direct action of some sort might be reasonable, but how to not adversely impact the team performance. Turning a back at full time feels an odd lack of appreciation of the players.
I woke up feeling sad about just how many have waited so so long and the are priced out of it.
Was trying to work out the Xmas morning analogy, the kid has waited so so long for his presents and can see them but is only allowed to watch others playing with his toys on TV. If he can afford a TV. Or something.
Nothing will happen. The club know that despite all the gnashing of teeth, no Villa fan is going to miss out on seeing Bayern and Juventus at home in the Chmpions League. Bologna might be a different story though
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It’s posturing at this stage I think calling for a boycott.
Turning your back whilst in the ground having paid what they want is posturing. As if anyone at the club would care about that.
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I don't like the idea of anti-Heck chanting or anything. The moment you make things personal you risk undermining your legitimate points.
If anything is to be done en masse, it needs to focus on the facts and legitimate issues that cannot be argued with.
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Of all the four games, Bologna is the one I am most inclined to attend. I've seen us play Bayern and Juventus in the Eurooean Cup before, and was there at VP in 1976, with about 5,000 other Villa fans, when Glasgow Rangers came to visit, so Celtic no thank you.
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It’s posturing at this stage I think calling for a boycott. It’s just inherently unlikely to work for the very reason they feel they can fleece fans so much.
The idea of turning the back to the pitch though, that could have legs, 82mim has been suggested, yet that would be a distraction for the team, as would anything prematch.
I think a direct action of some sort might be reasonable, but how to not adversely impact the team performance. Turning a back at full time feels an odd lack of appreciation of the players.
I woke up feeling sad about just how many have waited so so long and the are priced out of it.
Was trying to work out the Xmas morning analogy, the kid has waited so so long for his presents and can see them but is only allowed to watch others playing with his toys on TV. If he can afford a TV. Or something.
Nothing will happen. The club know that despite all the gnashing of teeth, no Villa fan is going to miss out on seeing Bayern and Juventus at home in the Chmpions League. Bologna might be a different story though
I reckon there would probably be enough fans in the next tier down who would be quite happy to go and watch Villa vs Celtic / Bologna in the Champions League because they couldn't get a ticket for Villa vs Bayern, and there's the possibility they might not get the chance to watch Villa in the Champions League again anytime soon.
I reckon if they don't all sell out they'll get close enough that they won't regret the choice they made.
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Of all the four games, Bologna is the one I am most inclined to attend. I've seen us play Bayern and Juventus in the Eurooean Cup before, and was there at VP in 1976, with about 5,000 other Villa fans, when Glasgow Rangers came to visit, so Celtic no thank you.
Celtic fans i'm told are a different breed to Rangers fans.
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In any case, it was nearly fifty years ago.
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
The Poles managed it
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
The Poles managed it
Also, if they REALLY wanted to go and were happy to spend the money on it then they could probably built up a booking history between now and the end of January pretty easily.
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There were reports of Arsenal supporters all over Villa Park and someone even seen a Man City shirt at the opening match so Celtic fans will be everywhere when Villa fail to sell General Admission Plus experiences
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
Yeah the way the others have answered. They could just buy a cheap cup game ticket or be a member so they can get a ticket
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Booking history for high profile matches always requires purchases before the current season, although this is 2024 Villa so who knows. And I can't see Celtic fans buying a bunch of tickets at £50+ on the off chance they can buy one when we play them.
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
Yeah the way the others have answered. They could just buy a cheap cup game ticket or be a member so they can get a ticket
The ones who don't live in Scotland/Glasgow would be harder for the system to spot but if there's a massive influx of tickets being bought in home ends from people with Glasgow postcodes etc and the club don't spot that or aren't bothered I'd be hugely surprised.
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My Celtic supporting boss in Glasgow was on the phone to me yesterday, sniffing out the GA+ options at Villa Park to see if him and his mates can get in.
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I know one Celtic fan, shortbread on his face, and I've seen him at games at Villa Park with his mates as a neutral.
They exist! They're among us! :o
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When has there ever been a successful boycott? Clubs know that the emotive nature of our support will always override this hence they take the piss. The only "boycott" is the one enforced by cost and that day is not far away. But those missing will just be replaced. By how many and how often is the risk the club is taking.
Liverpool did one a few years back directed at the ownership. Was an organised walkout on the Kop and I think there was a u turn on whatever price rises were imminent.
Probably already been mentioned but anyone know the prices Newcastle were charging for PSG and AC Milan last season?
Yes I know who owns them but would be interested how significantly they bumped up the prices from what they charge for prem games.
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I know one Celtic fan, shortbread on his face, and I've seen him at games at Villa Park with his mates as a neutral.
They exist! They're among us! :o
Just frisk people as they come in to VP, the Celtic fans will be the ones with a bottle of Buckie.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised to see another 4 game package launched imminently with a bit more knocked off the cost.
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
How are they going to buy tickets in the home end without a client ref etc
Plenty living in the Midlands who can call on local contacts.
The only game that might not sell out will be Bologna and even then it probably will given the insane demand for the other three games and so that becomes the game to say you watched Villa play live in the CL.
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When do tickets go on sale
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When has there ever been a successful boycott? Clubs know that the emotive nature of our support will always override this hence they take the piss. The only "boycott" is the one enforced by cost and that day is not far away. But those missing will just be replaced. By how many and how often is the risk the club is taking.
Liverpool did one a few years back directed at the ownership. Was an organised walkout on the Kop and I think there was a u turn on whatever price rises were imminent.
Probably already been mentioned but anyone know the prices Newcastle were charging for PSG and AC Milan last season?
Yes I know who owns them but would be interested how significantly they bumped up the prices from what they charge for prem games.
Walkouts can work, I was talking out and out boycotts.
There is a partial walkout on 80 minutes at every home game....
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Without trying too hard I can think of 6/7 Midlands based Celtic fans with VP booking history that would be able to get tickets in the home ends. It will sell out comfortably.
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
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Surprised Heck hasn't considered Dynamic pricing or "surge" pricing for these games
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
The closest was the £ signs at Ellis, but nothing like this I can remember.
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
The closest was the £ signs at Ellis, but nothing like this I can remember.
Surely the bad publicity almost negates the value of the price gouging to begin with? The club that rips off its long-suffering fans isn't quite the narrative conveyed in the nice kit launch video!
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
The closest was the £ signs at Ellis, but nothing like this I can remember.
Surely the bad publicity almost negates the value of the price gouging to begin with? The club that rips off its long-suffering fans isn't quite the narrative conveyed in the nice kit launch video!
Let's see if NSWE react at all. Ideally Heck gets his P45 and he never darkens our doors again.
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I disagree with the pricing strategy and am angry that loyal supporters have been treated this way! Even my youngest at 22 who would have paid £150 to stand at an Oasis gig couldn't believe the ticket prices when quoted! Dynamic pricing >:(
For comparison btw a TNT sports pass costs £30.99 per month with no minimum term. I guess some of us who travel a fair distance to games will be looking at that option?
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There were a few different protests in 2015/16 including walk outs. Hard to sayif they were successful or not as Randy didn't want to own us anymore and was trying to sell the club regardless.
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
The closest was the £ signs at Ellis, but nothing like this I can remember.
Surely the bad publicity almost negates the value of the price gouging to begin with? The club that rips off its long-suffering fans isn't quite the narrative conveyed in the nice kit launch video!
Let's see if NSWE react at all. Ideally Heck gets his P45 and he never darkens our doors again.
That's about as likely to happen as a positive comment coming from you.
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Yep.
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I am a bit taken aback by the bad press this has attracted. When was the last time the club had such negative publicity?
The closest was the £ signs at Ellis, but nothing like this I can remember.
Surely the bad publicity almost negates the value of the price gouging to begin with? The club that rips off its long-suffering fans isn't quite the narrative conveyed in the nice kit launch video!
It’s a PR disaster but that has come to define Heck’s tenure.
Based on all of his other decisions it’s fairly obvious that he could not give a flying fcuk what the supporters think.
Although getting into the mainstream media is a problem.
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
Oh stop being such a hysterical fanny. This is about the tenth time you've tried to come out with these scare stories based on zero evidence.
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Being realistic, we're unlikely to reach the final, but season ticket holders who attend all home games in the competition are surely going to be the first in line for tickets to the final, should we get there. So miss a game or two, and your chances begin to slim.
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
Oh stop being such a hysterical fanny. This is about the tenth time you've tried to come out with these scare stories based on zero evidence.
I guess a few of us are being "hysterical fannies" then as alot of people have said this could happen.
Show me the other 9 times ?? Talking nonsense
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Could see Celtic fans picking up the general sale tickets.
Also non-villa fans going to Bayern and Juve games. Good chance these games will sell out regardless
If villa fans dont want to pay 100% the home ends will be full of celtic fans thats when there will be trouble
Oh stop being such a hysterical fanny. This is about the tenth time you've tried to come out with these scare stories based on zero evidence.
I guess a few of us are being "hysterical fannies" then as alot of people have said this could happen.
Show me the other 9 times ?? Talking nonsense u waffling fanny
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I think I'm done with season ticket after this season. I've become more rational as I get older and the joy I get out of going to Villa Park is reducing while the price continues to go up. I will be sending them an email to let them know how unhappy I am but I realise how futile that is. It will make me feel better though.
It should be an opportunity to protest and this will show how, as a football nation, we simply don't have the unity that there would be in Germany for example. For all the noise we make on social media, I don't think we'd achieve a mass walk out or boycott at Villa Park so there is no deterrent to Villa for these decisions. I hope I'm wrong
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
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I have already bought a plane ticket to be over for the Bologna game. Fortunately, I got a fairly cheap flight. The ticket will cost much more.
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I think I'm done with season ticket after this season. I've become more rational as I get older and the joy I get out of going to Villa Park is reducing while the price continues to go up. I will be sending them an email to let them know how unhappy I am but I realise how futile that is. It will make me feel better though.
It should be an opportunity to protest and this will show how, as a football nation, we simply don't have the unity that there would be in Germany for example. For all the noise we make on social media, I don't think we'd achieve a mass walk out or boycott at Villa Park so there is no deterrent to Villa for these decisions. I hope I'm wrong
I think you will not be the only one bulky from friends ive spoken with. They dontvahve no one but themselves to blame
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I think I'm done with season ticket after this season. I've become more rational as I get older and the joy I get out of going to Villa Park is reducing while the price continues to go up. I will be sending them an email to let them know how unhappy I am but I realise how futile that is. It will make me feel better though.
It should be an opportunity to protest and this will show how, as a football nation, we simply don't have the unity that there would be in Germany for example. For all the noise we make on social media, I don't think we'd achieve a mass walk out or boycott at Villa Park so there is no deterrent to Villa for these decisions. I hope I'm wrong
I think you will not be the only one bulky from friends ive spoken with. They dontvahve no one but themselves to blame
Suerly the last thing we need on such a febrile morning is for supporters of this once-great club to start body shaming fellow Villa fans?!
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
At least they are being consistent. Rewarding those with fat wallets rather than years of loyalty through thick and thin
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I think I'm done with season ticket after this season. I've become more rational as I get older and the joy I get out of going to Villa Park is reducing while the price continues to go up. I will be sending them an email to let them know how unhappy I am but I realise how futile that is. It will make me feel better though.
It should be an opportunity to protest and this will show how, as a football nation, we simply don't have the unity that there would be in Germany for example. For all the noise we make on social media, I don't think we'd achieve a mass walk out or boycott at Villa Park so there is no deterrent to Villa for these decisions. I hope I'm wrong
I think you will not be the only one bulky from friends ive spoken with. They dontvahve no one but themselves to blame
Suerly the last thing we need on such a febrile morning is for supporters of this once-great club to start body shaming fellow Villa fans?!
It was a obvious typo 😁
Bully could be slimmer than me for all i know!
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Where else do they get the firepower from then? The club seem to be doing very well on the commercial arm. But competing today (when our commercial revenue still lags behind others) means cash has to come from other sources. You can make the argument that we should just cut our cloth accordingly, but I can’t see a mathematical solution to our financial needs that doesn’t involve squeezing the fans.
As I say, I hate it and I don’t think I can afford to go now.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
It really isn't necessary. It makes so little difference to P&S as to be pointless, and on top of that you will have families like us who might go to CL games at the sacfrifice of other games that are not as easy a sell for the club. Yes, if we don't go to Bayern the club can say someone else will take those tickets - can they replace us when we don't go to Southampton and Brentford as a result of paying for CL games?
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They've absolutely destroyed the good reputation that Villa were building up, at the push of a button. Every single puff piece they've tried to put on social media now is just full of comments about the ticket pricing. Chris Heck is a fucking moron.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Where else do they get the firepower from then? The club seem to be doing very well on the commercial arm. But competing today (when our commercial revenue still lags behind others) means cash has to come from other sources. You can make the argument that we should just cut our cloth accordingly, but I can’t see a mathematical solution to our financial needs that doesn’t involve squeezing the fans.
As I say, I hate it and I don’t think I can afford to go now.
If you’re paying more then surely you expect a certain standard of service? This has come on the back of the conditions for supporters inside Villa Park. Huge queues, terrible toilet conditions, supporters being moved to seats that don’t exist and missing some of a game due to a lack of organisation.
I get the price hike to a certain degree and why they’ve done it, although the prices they’ve come up with are a kick in the balls and way over the top. I expected a costly ticket price but this has alienated loyal supporters who just can’t afford these extortionate prices.
It’s been one thing after another for a few seasons and it makes supporters feel used and abused and rightly so.
If they want a ground full of tourist fans who spend 100’s every game then they are getting closer to it with every decision they make.
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
Where have you read this? If it isn't an official club source it's most likely speculation and scaremongering
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
Where have you read this? If it isn't an official club source it's most likely speculation and scaremongering
Yeah, it isn't true.
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I've read of Villa wanting to accelerate finances in keeping with how well we have done on the pitch, so I suppose pricing like this is what that looks like. Maybe Villa should think longer term in terms of growing the commercial side, rather than just breaking bonds with supporters, which is what this will do.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
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We took a Bournemouth based Celtic fan with us to Wigan a few years ago. The 3-0 defeat. He got pissed up lost us completely before the game. We called him at half time and he had ended upeeting some other Celtic in corporate and went in with them. He couldn't find the mini bus afterwards and it took an hour to find him. A very late trip back to Bournemouth. He was never invited again...
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I think every Villa fan has realised that prices will rise compared to five years ago, and that has happened. But there comes a point where those prices aren't justifiable. For those (thankfully few) people trying to justify the club's actions, where do you draw the line. £150, £250? If not, how much? Everything has gone up, loads, and for the majority of people in GA seats, not one single thing off the pitch has improved, and for most, it's actually got worse.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
It is piss all in the scheme of things but me and MDC Jnr plan to sell back our seats to some of our home league fixtures to cover the inflated costs of CL tickets. Villa will be able to resell those seats at full price. MDC Jnr is 13 so they will sell that for whatever full price is for Lower Witton these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ST holders with kids do this so potentially the club will be able to improve their Income Per Seat ratio (I made that up but I expect there is something like that they look at).
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Well, we wanted these things and now we have to pay for them. It just slightly baffles me where all the millions of pounds in advertising, gate receipts, TV subscriptions, merchandise sales, concession sales, sponsorship deals etc go to - oh hang on, that'll be the players wage bill and agents fees Wont it?? - i love football, love the club but the sport is sailing worryingly close to the wind for me. The sad part is the clubs dont give a flying fuck.
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So I pay my £79 pounds.
Drive to Tamebridge parkway.
Catch the crowded train to Witton, oh no that’s for away fans only.
Catch the crowed train to Aston.
Walk further to the ground.
Join the queues outside the Holte.
Wade through piss at half time.
Walk back to Witton Station, oh no see point 3.
Walk back to an overcrowded Aston station.
Get back late to Tamebridge.
Arrive home some time the following day.
This is the glamour of being back in Europe with Heck at the helm.
I understand the sentiments behind your post, but 1 point - We use Tame Bridge Parkway and we were able to get off at and back on at Witton for each of the ECL games last season.
Yes, but you have to walk all up Witton Road, along Nelson Street and along Trinity Road past the main stand to reach the Holte as the Witton Lane route is blocked off by police vans. Not Heck’s fault but adds to the underwhelming experience.
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It's quite simple, stop going and watch on TV
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It's quite simple, stop going and watch on TV
Which is ironic, given that it's 'TV' that has very much paved the way to where the game is now.
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It's quite simple, stop going and watch on TV
Stop being a knob!
“Why did you stab me in the leg?”
“It’s quite simple, chop your leg off and get a prosthetic one.”
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By the amount they've decided to hike-up prices, we'll make additional revenue equivalent to what we sold Morgan Sanson for - a sale and income that garnered fuck-all attention from most Villa fans (not me, I loved the man, but I concede he wasn't to everyone's taste).
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It's quite simple, stop going and watch on TV
I'm a season ticket holder. If I don't go, they'll make more money on my seat.
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It's quite simple, stop going and watch on TV
I'm a season ticket holder. If I don't go, they'll make more money on my seat.
Yeah i have that issue , 20% cream off then they re-sell at Full Price . More greed
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
It is piss all in the scheme of things but me and MDC Jnr plan to sell back our seats to some of our home league fixtures to cover the inflated costs of CL tickets. Villa will be able to resell those seats at full price. MDC Jnr is 13 so they will sell that for whatever full price is for Lower Witton these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ST holders with kids do this so potentially the club will be able to improve their Income Per Seat ratio (I made that up but I expect there is something like that they look at).
A word of warning with this plan. Villa no longer resell seats until every last GA and GA+ seat has been sold, which last season didn’t happen much, if at all.
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
Where have you read this? If it isn't an official club source it's most likely speculation and scaremongering
Yeah, it isn't true.
Thanks fuck for that, it's not just me.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
Yep, if we take the figure of £20 comparing to Newcastle and Liverpool’s prices, I make it about an extra 600,000 quid gross. As you say, hardly lays a glove on FFP. 2.4 million over four games. Not that I necessarily think this is the only point to consider!
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My complaints is in and reply from Lee states "logged as complaint reference 24 jul-sep 668". Not sure if the number is number of complaints received?
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I've just read that corporate/executive members are being given maximum away points so they will be in the 1st pot for CL away tickets regardless of previous history. This is on top of a subset of away tickets being reserved for Hospitality as they've been doing with the league aways.
Where have you read this? If it isn't an official club source it's most likely speculation and scaremongering
Yeah, it isn't true.
Thanks fuck for that, it's not just me.
I'm told it's a new thing so wouldn't have been true last season. I got this from a friend, his friend is corporate and got this from Villa. So it's at least up to the usual standard of ITK on here. I can't prove it's 100% true.
(https://i.ibb.co/4TKHhDm/Whats-App-Image-2024-09-05-at-11-04-58-824c7842.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4TKHhDm)
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Probably is legit and from the club as there's "it will be at the sign time as general admission."
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
I think that is an accountancy term you have applied, which I don't understand, but your are right. Some chap on radio said if 4 games are fully sold out Villa will make £1.6M more than if they had used say cat A pricing, so a drop in the ocean when it comes to PSR.
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Simon Jordan explains why he understands Aston Villa's decision to increase prices of tickets for Champions League fixtures.
Skip to 07:30 for the Villa specific bit
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/05/Bayern-munich-ticket-details/
Right then, what’s the plan as they don’t give a shit.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
I think that is an accountancy term you have applied, which I don't understand…
I used to work at one of the Big 4 (accountancy firms, not football clubs) and I can confirm it is a legit technical term.
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£85 to sit in the Lower North . What a time to be alive
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Am I reading that right - it's actually worse than yesterday? Concessions only apply to under 14s, not under 18s. There is going to be a fucking riot next Saturday.
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Bayern tickets go on sale tomorrow. No change in the pricing. Hmm.
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Bayern tickets go on sale tomorrow. No change in the pricing. Hmm.
There is a change - it's now full price for over 14s, not over 18s!
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£75 for a non ST 15 year old. Nice.
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Also, why do ST holders only have until Monday to claim their own seat when the game isnt until October?
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It is anticipated that changes to the stadium advertising boards will have the possibility to affect supporters' views of the pitch in the front two rows of the lower tiers in the North Stand and the Holte End, along with the front row of the Trinity Road Stand. Season ticket holders seated in these areas will need to purchase alternate seats for this game. Season ticket holders who are displaced will have a window to move to purchase tickets in any unoccupied seats before tickets go on sale to members
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Also, why do ST holders only have until Monday to claim their own seat when the game isnt until October?
Seeing how many purchase before changing their pricing structure?
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Looks like they are trying to steamroller this through to avoid the unhappy customers.
Make your mind up ffs or we'll sell your seat to someone who is willing to pay £94 for it.
Leaving a nasty taste this.
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And dont forget additional £0.50 booking fee, per ticket, for online and phone bookings. No other way to book? Absolute profiteering.
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Am I reading that right - it's actually worse than yesterday? Concessions only apply to under 14s, not under 18s. There is going to be a fucking riot next Saturday.
Say's under 18's on the chart.
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Also, why do ST holders only have until Monday to claim their own seat when the game isnt until October?
Because they make more money on the seats if they're sold to non ST holders.
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Am I reading that right - it's actually worse than yesterday? Concessions only apply to under 14s, not under 18s. There is going to be a fucking riot next Saturday.
Say's under 18's on the chart.
no says U14
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U21 and then it's U14.
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Am I reading that right - it's actually worse than yesterday? Concessions only apply to under 14s, not under 18s. There is going to be a fucking riot next Saturday.
Say's under 18's on the chart.
no says U14
Yeah, seems they have moved the age down. Mental. What a reaction to yesterday.
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It's okay, 15-17 year olds are a famously wealthy demographic.
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U21 and then it's U14.
only £10 difference to full adult though eg zone 4 £85 / £75 , U14 is £30
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If the attendance is low for munich (which is highly unlikely) then they may evaluate for the other games and lower prices. If munich sells out not a chance they will
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It still says Under 18 on the one i'm looking at.
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It says under 18s now, have they corrected it?
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Everyone knows you get £300 a week for a paper round so they're fine.
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Looks like they might have fixed the under 14/18 issue.
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I hoped they’d listen. I really thought that they’d come back with something new.
I’ll pay up like the pleb I am but if there’s a double digit rise to season tickets next season then I’m out. This bloke needs removing from our club.
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Looks like they have quickly changed it, but it definitely said U14 to begin with
(https://i.ibb.co/ZK9VttZ/villa.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZK9VttZ)
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It keeps changing between U18 and U14 for me. Maybe the update hasn't reached all of their web servers.
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So where I am on this is that reluctantly I will try and buy a £85 ticket on Tuesday morning as a member, mainly because I've always wanted to see a CL game down the Villa.
However, as I live in Yorkshire they can forget about me attending the 2 or 3 other games I probably would have this season.
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I see 4 price categories
Adult
Over 66/U21
Armed forces
U14
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Tickets are now non-refundable. This wasn't the case for European games last year.
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Hilarious. I have under 18 on the web and under 14 on the app.
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The mad thing is people will pay for the ticket attend the game and go for a pie on 38 mins, come back 5 mins into the 2nd half and then leave on 80 mins to beat the traffic. Work that one out!
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Has anybody ever had or seen a dicount code for tickets? The option to use one is on the ticket site
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The process for buying a ticket will be the usual stress-inducing experience for members too no doubt. If they diverted the extra costs into a ticketing portal that doesn't make me want to set fire to my face that would at least be some consolation.
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Has anybody ever had or seen a dicount code for tickets? The option to use one is on the ticket site
Yep, great deal. For just £40, you can purchase a £20 off discount card*
*not for use in Champions League games, terms and conditions apply.
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They can't even rip us off without fucking it up.
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Seriously considering my attendance at any of the European games now. The prospect of them following the draw this time last week had me giddy with excitement and that's all been stripped away now. If I'm not looking forward to them why would I pay through the nose?
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My complaints is in and reply from Lee states "logged as complaint reference 24 jul-sep 668". Not sure if the number is number of complaints received?
My reply came in at 11.12 and was ref 24 jul-sep 633
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It's pretty sad that instead of excitement and positivity about the CL games it's been sucked out of fans by the club and so it's negativity from fans and bad publicity for the club.
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Yeah, was dead up for these games and they've fucking ruined it before a ball is kicked. Feel quite sad about the whole thing. Arseholes.
And in a bit, I get to watch Scotland. FML.
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It's pretty sad that instead of excitement and positivity about the CL games it's been sucked out of fans by the club and so it's negativity from fans and bad publicity for the club.
Ever since 4th got you in I have been dying to see the Villa qualify. I have been playing the anthem all summer. I hate that they have sucked the joy out of this moment
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Glad i saw them in it in 81/82 . Happy to watch these games for free on TV now . New Gold Dream
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I was at all the home games for the 81-83 EC games, well apart from Besiktas obviously, but not remotely bothered about missing them this season despite how long i've wanted us in it. Modern football eh.
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I'll be going regardless. Waited too long. Feel like a sell out, but we wouldn't be there without this lot in charge I guess.
Anyway, do we think that Hibs will qualify for a purchase history? My lad wen tto that but not the others as they were too late for him. Probably too late this season too, but will probably take him to one of the games.
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It just says "supporters who attended a Conference League match", doesn't specify that qualifiers don't count so... I think Hibs counts?
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Tickets are now non-refundable. This wasn't the case for European games
It was if you purchased the ticket package deal
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Charging 50p for online payments if I read it right, blood out of stone comes to mind
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Is it one ticket per season ticket? Does anyone know?
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Is it one ticket per season ticket? Does anyone know?
Yes
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Is it one ticket per season ticket? Does anyone know?
Yes
Ta!
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Is it one ticket per season ticket? Does anyone know?
Yes
Anything more would exceed the salary to mortgage ratio.
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First time looking on here today. Everything has been said about how shite this all is, so not going to repeat.
Just practically, just been on the website and it still says under 18 as a category. Makes a massive difference to me if they scrap that and go under 14 straight to under 21. Ill go from £70 quid and £20 quid for my 14 year old to £70 and £65.
I would pay £135 for one of the games, but not for all 3 (if I naturally sack off Bologna).
Any clarity?
What a shit show
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Charging 50p for online payments if I read it right, blood out of stone comes to mind
every penny counts
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I bet the club are glad there's not a home game this weekend.
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Celtic is the only game that really appeals as it could have something riding on that result
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Looks like they might have fixed the under 14/18 issue.
Have they included a link to KLARNA loans pay over 9 months?
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I wonder what’s behind changing the times when the window opens to 0930, that will surely make it more difficult for people who can’t get online due to work
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I wonder what’s behind changing the times when the window opens to 0930, that will surely make it more difficult for people who can’t get online due to work
I noticed that, I normally use my desktop but will have to make sure I’ve got the password etc so I can use the site on my phone.
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Ok obviously this is the champions league thread but maybe there is also scope for a champions league contender thread with a primary focus on premier league and finishing top 4 again.
Is that an idea. Because where can discussion be made on top 4 challenge as this is all about Champions League starting with young boys, then Bayern etc etc
As well as all the ticketing , travel and everything else
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I think I speak for everyone when I say go for it. You can never have too many threads, mate.
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Excellent I will start a top 4/5 champion league contender upon resumption of the Premier League and Everton match. Thanks.
Basically I see an 8 team competition with maybe Brighton too in mix for 4/5 places.
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I think I speak for everyone when I say go for it. You can never have too many threads, mate.
+1
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Don’t forget though Footy, if we win the Champions League, we will qualify for the Champions League. So this is also the Champions League contenders thread too, in a way.
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Celtic is the only game that really appeals as it could have something riding on that result
I’d rather eat my own head than attend a match that set of broken-brained weirdos are a part of.
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True.
Other potential thread ideas:
2025 UEFA Super Cup Contenders' Thread: if we win the Champions League we qualify for the 2025 UEFA Super Cup to be held on 13th August. Venue TBC but... why not just book all the hotels, just to be on the safe side?
2025 Intercontinental Cup Contenders' Thread. Not be to confused with the old Intercontinental Cup, which was replaced by the World Club Cup, the Intercontinental Cup is a completely new competition which has been brought in to replace the World Club Cup. It's being hosted in TBC, again, so make sure you remember which were the best bars and restaurants from our visit there in the Super Cup.
2029 World Club Cup Contenders' Thread. We're too late to qualify for the 2025 version, but that just gives us more time to save up. Which is just as well, imagine what the ticket prices will be in 2029! It's being hosted in TBC, again, but it'll only be a short teleport journey away by then. Just try not to stare at the dying victims of climate change, they can really spoil your pint.
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“Lynn….new idea to pitch to Tony Hayers”
:-)
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Not my words, Carol, the words of Heroes and Villains online forum.
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Not my words, Carol, the words of Heroes and Villains online forum.
:-)
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True.
Other potential thread ideas:
2025 UEFA Super Cup Contenders' Thread: if we win the Champions League we qualify for the 2025 UEFA Super Cup to be held on 13th August. Venue TBC but... why not just book all the hotels, just to be on the safe side?
2025 Intercontinental Cup Contenders' Thread. Not be to confused with the old Intercontinental Cup, which was replaced by the World Club Cup, the Intercontinental Cup is a completely new competition which has been brought in to replace the World Club Cup. It's being hosted in TBC, again, so make sure you remember which were the best bars and restaurants from our visit there in the Super Cup.
2029 World Club Cup Contenders' Thread. We're too late to qualify for the 2025 version, but that just gives us more time to save up. Which is just as well, imagine what the ticket prices will be in 2029! It's being hosted in TBC, again, but it'll only be a short teleport journey away by then. Just try not to stare at the dying victims of climate change, they can really spoil your pint.
Lovely stuff
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I couldn’t see this had been posted anywhere…..
https://x.com/academyavfc/status/1831754495128469659
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it will be interesting for the club to see how many season ticket holders buy tickets by Monday evening.
Hopefully for the next 3 champions league games they decide to adjust the prices down!!!
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I couldn’t see this had been posted anywhere…..
https://x.com/academyavfc/status/1831754495128469659
Can't even get the date of the match right.
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They wont back down, especially with big names like celtic and juve comeing. Maybe they'll do something like if you went to bayern you can get bologna for £35 something like that if it gets too hot for them. I mean Bologna is going to be embarrassing for them at these prices. I wont be going even if they offer a deal!
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Plenty will. I think the prices are utterly depressing, albeit not unexpected. The direction we're moving in price wise is increasingly bleak. But I'm not cutting my nose off to spite my face. I'd have traded my grandmother for a shot at the Champions League a few years ago. Stomping out of Wigan 3-0 it wouldn't have seen any further away; take my £79 per game, would have been happy to have coughed up double or triple. And that's why it's depressing, because they know that and they're exploiting that.
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Plenty will. I think the prices are utterly depressing, albeit not unexpected. The direction we're moving in price wise is increasingly bleak. But I'm not cutting my nose off to spite my face. I'd have traded my grandmother for a shot at the Champions League a few years ago. Stomping out of Wigan 3-0 it wouldn't have seen any further away; take my £79 per game, would have been happy to have coughed up double or triple. And that's why it's depressing, because they know that and they're exploiting that.
This. That Wigan game was the ultimate low point for me and I stomped out the ground early like many others.
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I'm just surprised they haven't gone the whole way and said there'll be dynamic pricing for the Champion's League tickets.
Football will eat itself.
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Just three short years ago when the scum 6 super league was in motion Villa came out strongly against it and reposted an edited version of the video that was done for the 140th anniversary in 2014.
It's like we have become a different club in the three years since then. Where is the touch of class?
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Every club thinks they're classy. It's just the delusion fans have of the importance of their own club. Man City do loads of "classy" things for their supporters and community, but they're a bunch of cheats.
Coopers Injury and 5nobsVilla various successor accounts have made an interesting point about a different type of fan. It wouldn't suprise me if there isn't a deliberate policy to make games expensive to loosen the grip of season ticket holders and members for these games, to get the regional Tarquin to attend a game of Champions League football. The ocassion will be special, the atmosphere incredible and perhaps that mix will encourage said Tarquin to affiliate more with a club, with us and return for other premium priced matches.
If Heck expands the fan base and generates more income (which these prices inevitably will), then NSWE will think yet another job well done.
He's not here to be liked, evidently. He knows all us legacy bozos can performatively complain, but honest to Christ when it comes to the crunch, imagine sitting at home knowing you could be somewhere we've not been since before I even existed. We'll all be dancing like Spice Heads in need of a fix. We'll be there and he knows it. We can be exploited, so he will exploit us. But let's not pretend there's no design or he's actually bad at this.
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Remember sitting in a half empty Holte End on a Sunday afternoon losing to Liverpool at home - 6-0 - Jurgen laughing his head off, relegation all but confirmed, at that point I could never see us competing in the Premier League or a European Competition again!!
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I think you're right Ads. I can find a way to pay for the tickets, so I will, for Bayern at least. As will the vast majority, even those who are complaining now and whose initial reaction is/was 'fuck that', people will fork out, FOMO will kick in by Monday afternoon/Tuesday morning.
There will be some that just can't find (or refuse) a way to pay, and I genuinely feel sorry for them as this is just utterly, depressingly shit.
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I can see a problem though, in that if we don't have a similarly good season to last year, demand could be well down. Say we do OK but a bit down on last year due to the Champions League exertions, and finish 7th again. He already can't sell out the ground and the hospitality areas despite us finishing 4th, how's he going to do it if results are worse and we qualify for the Europa Conference again? This feels like a tipping point to me. I'll go to see Bayern and Juventus, but more than likely won't bother with the other two, and I'm pretty resigned to not renewing at all next year.
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I'm just surprised they haven't gone the whole way and said there'll be dynamic pricing for the Champion's League tickets.
Football will eat itself.
Me and my mate used to say that back in 90s when we had season tickets.
It has only grown ever since. Even after a decline of 6 or 7 years and underlying one of 20 years were still 36k average finishing mid table in Championship.
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My wife has told me I have to get a 2nd job, doing the Amazon delivery of parcels so that I can go to the Bayern game.
I am now filling in the application form!!!
For all the anger about the prices, when I walk into Villa Park when we play Bayern, it will be a fantastic feeling that will live with me for a long time, and it will be made even better when we beat them.
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My wife has told me I have to get a 2nd job, doing the Amazon delivery of parcels so that I can go to the Bayern game.
I am now filling in the application form!!!
For all the anger about the prices, when I walk into Villa Park when we play Bayern, it will be a fantastic feeling that will live with me for a long time, and it will be made even better when we beat them.
or spoilt when Harry Kane does a Richard Burton in the box and the ref points to the spot
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My wife has told me I have to get a 2nd job, doing the Amazon delivery of parcels so that I can go to the Bayern game.
I am now filling in the application form!!!
For all the anger about the prices, when I walk into Villa Park when we play Bayern, it will be a fantastic feeling that will live with me for a long time, and it will be made even better when we beat them.
Good luck to you mate, but after sleeping on it I think although I could find the money for it I've decided they can bollocks and I'm I'm not paying it.
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My wife has told me I have to get a 2nd job, doing the Amazon delivery of parcels so that I can go to the Bayern game.
I am now filling in the application form!!!
For all the anger about the prices, when I walk into Villa Park when we play Bayern, it will be a fantastic feeling that will live with me for a long time, and it will be made even better when we beat them.
Good luck to you mate, but after sleeping on it I think although I could find the money for it I've decided they can bollocks and I'm I'm not paying it.
:(
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
They'll be 40,000+ at each of those games. How well his hospitality does is another matter.
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Just had an email thanking me for spending £178. Fucking hell.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
So where are the people going to come from to fill the seats we won't be buying? Arsenal already failed to sell out, a big fixture and first home game of the season - for every Champions League game we are going to not bother with 2 league games to pay for it.
My point is, the club don't want us at the games we have been waiting for years to go to - fuck that. We'll take up our tickets for those games, find another sucker to pay £50 to watch us at home on a Tuesday night in December against relegation fodder. I think Heck has seriously miscalculated the amount of people who will do that.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
They'll be 40,000+ at each of those games. How well his hospitality does is another matter.
Maybe.
However, maybe I'm misreading the audience, but aren't the people who are happy to pay hundreds of pounds for a bit of food, drink and schmoozing while they watch the game probably going to be the the same clientele who aren't going to be that militant about their ticket being £30 more than they expected?
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attendances as always will depend on how the team is doing, if we are in and around the top 4 they will stay 40k+ BUT if we start drifting out of contention i think Mr Heck is in for a nasty shock
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I'm as certain as I can be that I have been bought a ticket for the Bournemouth match as it is the one nearest my birthday!
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
So where are the people going to come from to fill the seats we won't be buying? Arsenal already failed to sell out, a big fixture and first home game of the season - for every Champions League game we are going to not bother with 2 league games to pay for it.
My point is, the club don't want us at the games we have been waiting for years to go to - fuck that. We'll take up our tickets for those games, find another sucker to pay £50 to watch us at home on a Tuesday night in December against relegation fodder. I think Heck has seriously miscalculated the amount of people who will do that.
I'd just say that Arsenal was August, prime holiday season and that has a huge impact.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
They'll be 40,000+ at each of those games. How well his hospitality does is another matter.
Maybe.
However, maybe I'm misreading the audience, but aren't the people who are happy to pay hundreds of pounds for a bit of food, drink and schmoozing while they want the game probably going to be the the same clientele who aren't going to be that militant about their ticket being £30 more than they expected?
I think my point is, even with the expansion of GA+, you're not talking about too many additional seats. So you'll get 40,000 legacy bods even if the more affluent cannot be bothered to do GA+.
We're probably doing our wealthier supporters a disservice to be honest, as even if I were loaded and liked to quaff and sip bubbles, I'd still want to turn up to see us smash relegation fodder.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
So where are the people going to come from to fill the seats we won't be buying? Arsenal already failed to sell out, a big fixture and first home game of the season - for every Champions League game we are going to not bother with 2 league games to pay for it.
I'm planning on bringing my kids to the Bournemouth match for their first time at VP. Part of the appeal for that particular game is that if the demand isn't as great as it otherwise might be, I can plan the weekend around that a couple of months in advance without too great a risk that we might struggle for tickets.
That's probably a bit anomalous to the wider situation, but there's a few extra seats made back up.
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It's interesting the club don't publish or announce attendance figures anymore as far as I am aware, which seems a deliberate attempt to hide the amount of empty seats we have.
I'm not buying that we didn't sell out against Arsenal just because it was August though. If so why has it not been the case for every game in August since we came up? The real ones to watch will be Brentford and Southampton in early December. Neither of them will bring more than 1k fans, meaning there will already be an empty block in the upper Witton we try to sell if we can. If the likes of my family are not going having barely missed a home game in the last 4 years I really don't see where the people to fill even close to 41k seats come from on a cold evening/afternoon in the lead up to Christmas.
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We have the past 4 years. Why when we're the best we've been in 40 odd wouldn't we? GA+ is a discreet issue, I don't see the merit in extrapolating it and neither do the club.
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It's interesting the club don't publish or announce attendance figures anymore as far as I am aware, which seems a deliberate attempt to hide the amount of empty seats we have.
I'm not buying that we didn't sell out against Arsenal just because it was August though. If so why has it not been the case for every game in August since we came up? The real ones to watch will be Brentford and Southampton in early December. Neither of them will bring more than 1k fans, meaning there will already be an empty block in the upper Witton we try to sell if we can. If the likes of my family are not going having barely missed a home game in the last 4 years I really don't see where the people to fill even close to 41k seats come from on a cold evening/afternoon in the lead up to Christmas.
i dont understand how we didnt sell out V Arsenal because every time i logged onto the website as a claret member it was showing as sold out and occasionally a ticket would show up at random - there were certainly no blocks of tickets available on the site. We got tickets upstairs in the Holte and there was a block of seats unnocupied in the Witton and we were like "where the hell did they come from??"
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https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/aston-villa/attendances/2023-2024
Last season's attendances.
Nothing for Arsenal this season, yet.
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It's interesting the club don't publish or announce attendance figures anymore as far as I am aware, which seems a deliberate attempt to hide the amount of empty seats we have.
I'm not buying that we didn't sell out against Arsenal just because it was August though. If so why has it not been the case for every game in August since we came up? The real ones to watch will be Brentford and Southampton in early December. Neither of them will bring more than 1k fans, meaning there will already be an empty block in the upper Witton we try to sell if we can. If the likes of my family are not going having barely missed a home game in the last 4 years I really don't see where the people to fill even close to 41k seats come from on a cold evening/afternoon in the lead up to Christmas.
i dont understand how we didnt sell out V Arsenal because every time i logged onto the website as a claret member it was showing as sold out and occasionally a ticket would show up at random - there were certainly no blocks of tickets available on the site. We got tickets upstairs in the Holte and there was a block of seats unnocupied in the Witton and we were like "where the hell did they come from??"
General Admission did, General Admission + and corporate did not.
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Two of our whatsapp group have already bought their tickets.
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Just had an email thanking me for spending £178. Fucking hell.
I just got one for £158. Thing is, I unchecked the Champions League scheme box when I renewed as I didn't like the sound of "non-refundable".
I hope this isn't another gaff from the club and everyone's been charged.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
They'll be 40,000+ at each of those games. How well his hospitality does is another matter.
I'm a claret member, and much prefer to attend those types of games, and intend to do so, as (a) I find the atmosphere and everything else just better than the games against the Category A teams (b) they are less expensive to attend (c) those games tend to be played at 3pm on a Saturday and (d) in all probability I can watch a game against the 'big 6' live on TV.
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Just had an email mines £79 for the Lower Holte. There’s no link to a ticket so I assume that will come through separately unless they put on the season ticket we already have.
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I've got an email thanking me for my seventy quid but they haven't actually taken anything. Hopefully this means I've got a free ticket. Can't complain about those ticket prices...
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I've got an email thanking me for my seventy quid but they haven't actually taken anything. Hopefully this means I've got a free ticket. Can't complain about those ticket prices...
Have you checked you've still got both of your kidneys? Any scars appeared overnight?
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Ah, you don't need two, do you?
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Ah, you don't need two, do you?
Head over to the NSWE thread and we can add it to the list of bodily parts we may or may not need.
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I definitely won't be going: I just can't afford anything like that at the moment.
The sole crumb of comfort is that some piggybacking day-tripper will suffer my freshly squeezed seating/standing area (from the recent renovations on the lower holte) and feel thoroughly fleeced from parting with £90+!
The dulcet tones of Daz Hale & Thommo await...
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that won't happen.
They'll be 40,000+ at each of those games. How well his hospitality does is another matter.
I'm a claret member, and much prefer to attend those types of games, and intend to do so, as (a) I find the atmosphere and everything else just better than the games against the Category A teams (b) they are less expensive to attend (c) those games tend to be played at 3pm on a Saturday and (d) in all probability I can watch a game against the 'big 6' live on TV.
I used to prefer coming over (from Ireland) or up (from London) for the type of games you're talking about, mainly cos we might fcuking actually win them or score a goal or two. Now, because we're actually good, taking-on the top teams is more attractive and the win is all the sweeter and the expense easier to forget.
I went to the Arsenal game at VP last season and as I only get to go sporadically, for the first time noticed the big jump in match-day tickets*. Had a "scout's eye" view from the top of the Trinity just below the rafters and pigeon droppings. Think it was £67 or thereabouts. Was it worth it? Well, we fashioned a glorious move from back to front complete with a swivel and fine finish from our Scottish Iniesta, enough to win the day, so yeah, it was.
The only way I could justify the Champs League tickets (if I could even get one), was if we win. Or a last-gasp draw that feels like a win. Touching a hundred quid is a night-out at a West-End show in a half-decent seat for a five-star show. Us getting our arses handed to us wouldn't really cut it.
*The best deal on a ticket I got was an August game versus Everton - the traditional win at home against them at time of year, just after O'Neill's departure, we won 1-0 with a Luke Young goal. The Villa were doing tickets a tenner and the flight from Dublin was probably twenty quid return.
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Touching a hundred quid is a night-out at a West-End show in a half-decent seat for a five-star show.
Well that makes the football seem like bloody good value!
Which obviously, for anyone thinking I'm defending the prices, it is not.
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Touching a hundred quid is a night-out at a West-End show in a half-decent seat for a five-star show.
Well that makes the football seem like bloody good value!
You can still get tickets for Andre Rieu at Wembley Arena for £133. Better hurry though, it's almost sold out.
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Just had an email mines £79 for the Lower Holte. There’s no link to a ticket so I assume that will come through separately unless they put on the season ticket we already have.
I also had the email, but it doesn’t say what they’ve taken the money for.
Yes, I know it’ll be for the first Champions League game, but there’s no mention of the charge being for a ticket, let along for which match.
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From a reseller that sends emails out......
Aston Villa - Lower Grounds - Premium Experience
Lower Grounds situated in the Holte End
Access 3hrs Pre &/1.5hrs post
Half time concourse access only
Inclusive drinks – Beers/wines/soft drinks
All inclusive street food stations
Official longside Seats
Trinity Road Stand Upper Block A1-A3
Former Player and large media screens
Complimentary matchday programme
Opponent Date Kick Off Number Available Price Per Person
Bayern Munich £375.00
Bologna £295.00
Juventus £395.00
Celtic £375.00
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They have 8 available for each game...
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Apparently some season ticket holders are being moved seats for the Bayern game too...
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Apparently some season ticket holders are being moved seats for the Bayern game too...
£200 a ticket with panoramic views of the car park.
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Apparently some season ticket holders are being moved seats for the Bayern game too...
That could be the front rows due to advertising boards.
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Touching a hundred quid is a night-out at a West-End show in a half-decent seat for a five-star show.
Well that makes the football seem like bloody good value!
You can still get tickets for Andre Rieu at Wembley Arena for £133. Better hurry though, it's almost sold out.
Although tickets always pop up back on sale due to the natural attrition of the audience.
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From the same reseller
Liverpool
Brodies Sports Bar
Level 1 Upper Tier of new Anfield Road stand
‘’Brodies Bar Lounge’ access to include:
Complimentary street food available up until kick-off
A complimentary half-time drink (beer, wine or soft drink)
Pre & post-match cash bar
Complimentary programme
Pre-match entertainment & appearance from an LFC Legend
Access 3 Hours Pre/1 hour post match
Bologna £245
Leverkusen £295
Real Madrid £495
Lille £275
Arsenal
Arsenal - Cannon Club Level
Premium Padded seats on CLub Level Blocks 66-81
VIP Lounge access 2 1/2 hours pre + 1 Hour post
Pre-match Hospitality (4 drinks & 1 food voucher to redeem from club level menu in lounges/bars) with occasional seating
HT Beer/Wine/Soft Drinks
Official Match Programme
Official Stadium (Non Matchday) & Museum Tour (Matchday)
Arsenal FC Megastore Voucher
PSG £495
Shakhtar Donetsk £325
Monaco £395
Zagreb £375
Man City
Managers Corner
Premium VIP seats in the South-West Corner, at the front of the middle tier
Complimentary drink; beer, wine or soft drink
Option to purchase a selection of pizza’s and other small plates
Executive cash bar
Half Time: Complimentary tea and coffee
Casual unreserved table seating
Match Programme
Opens 3 hours before kick-off
Closes 1 hour after the final whistle
Inter £245
Sparta Prague £195
Feyenoord £195
Brugge £195
Celtic
- Club 67 Lounge
Kerrydale Suite access 2hrs pre/1hr post
Padded Seats West Stand Block 139
Complimentary Match Programme
Half Time Tea/Coffee & Snacks
Complimentary Hot Food Voucher
Live Entertainment
Bratislava £275
Leipzig £375
Brugge £325
Young Boys £375
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Apparently some season ticket holders are being moved seats for the Bayern game too...
That could be the front rows due to advertising boards.
It is . Presumably they will move into what would have been GA+ seats . Heck will be furious
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Apparently some season ticket holders are being moved seats for the Bayern game too...
To be fair that’s due to a strange UEFA rule. The advertising boards have to be a certain height which is a lot higher than normal.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
It is piss all in the scheme of things but me and MDC Jnr plan to sell back our seats to some of our home league fixtures to cover the inflated costs of CL tickets. Villa will be able to resell those seats at full price. MDC Jnr is 13 so they will sell that for whatever full price is for Lower Witton these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ST holders with kids do this so potentially the club will be able to improve their Income Per Seat ratio (I made that up but I expect there is something like that they look at).
A word of warning with this plan. Villa no longer resell seats until every last GA and GA+ seat has been sold, which last season didn’t happen much, if at all.
Really? Thanks for the heads up - I know a few Villa fans who would like to go to a game. Presumably I'm allowed to transfer our seats to another person as long as they have an account? One of my mates has a ST near us and if he doesn't come he's transferred his seat to one of my kids whose on the ST waiting list - I hope they haven't stopped that as he saw a few games last season.
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The real fallout of all of this is going to come over the next 3 or 4 months. Like others, we have waited long enough to see Villa at the top table so are going to do all we can to go to those games - we'll be knocking a load of others on the head though to pay for it. If others are in the same boat then good luck to Heck in getting day trippers through the door for Southampton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Ipswich et al - the best Villa team in years is going to be playing those games in front of sub 36k crowds I reckon, and with his pisstaking GA+ seats all but empty.
Unless villa become a midtable team this year in bottom half cant see that happening
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Aston Villa can confirm ticket details for our trip to BSC Young Boys in the UEFA Champions League.
Villa have an allocation of 1,665 tickets for our league phase opener in Switzerland on Tuesday, September 17 (ko 5.45pm GMT).
Criteria
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/
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Young Boys criteria.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/)
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Seats around the press box apparently - and probably front-row seats too. But I guess those were the same as last season in the Conference League.
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Aston Villa can confirm ticket details for our trip to BSC Young Boys in the UEFA Champions League.
Villa have an allocation of 1,665 tickets for our league phase opener in Switzerland on Tuesday, September 17 (ko 5.45pm GMT).
Criteria
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/
Hey a bargain 33 quid, wonder what their fans are paying!?
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If the seats are contiguous then 644 out of 1,665 are reserved for corporate and GA+.
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If the seats are contiguous then 644 out of 1,665 are reserved for corporate and GA+.
644 for GA+?
There were all these rumours last year and the same conditions applied to anybody with a GA+ season ticket.
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If the seats are contiguous then 644 out of 1,665 are reserved for corporate and GA+.
644 for GA+?
There were all these rumours last year and the same conditions applied to anybody with a GA+ season ticket.
I think my calculations are correct.
(https://i.ibb.co/q0cwzjS/image.png) (https://ibb.co/q0cwzjS)
Edit: Actually, I'm wrong. It's 736, not 644.
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It's not separate though, it's still based on the criteria.
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It's not separate though, it's still based on the criteria.
I hope you're right but I can't see why they would list the seats for them. For the league aways it's been a dedicated block and it looks the same to me.
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Just tried to secure my Season Ticket seat for the Bayern Munich home game and the only options are the Everton and Wolves games at home! The IT system is a shambles!
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Just tried to secure my Season Ticket seat for the Bayern Munich home game and the only options are the Everton and Wolves games at home! The IT system is a shambles!
Have you logged in? You can’t see Bayern until you do.
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Just had an email mines £79 for the Lower Holte. There’s no link to a ticket so I assume that will come through separately unless they put on the season ticket we already have.
Same question here except they've taken my money but where's the ticket?
I've had no email yet.
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
It is piss all in the scheme of things but me and MDC Jnr plan to sell back our seats to some of our home league fixtures to cover the inflated costs of CL tickets. Villa will be able to resell those seats at full price. MDC Jnr is 13 so they will sell that for whatever full price is for Lower Witton these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ST holders with kids do this so potentially the club will be able to improve their Income Per Seat ratio (I made that up but I expect there is something like that they look at).
A word of warning with this plan. Villa no longer resell seats until every last GA and GA+ seat has been sold, which last season didn’t happen much, if at all.
Really? Thanks for the heads up - I know a few Villa fans who would like to go to a game. Presumably I'm allowed to transfer our seats to another person as long as they have an account? One of my mates has a ST near us and if he doesn't come he's transferred his seat to one of my kids whose on the ST waiting list - I hope they haven't stopped that as he saw a few games last season.
This is still fine. You are not allowed to sell tickets on but you can pass them on, via the ticket office, to anyone with a fan ID.
It’s just that you can also pass them back to the club for resale, & they won’t try to sell your ticket till they’ve sold all of theirs.
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Got 2 of our Season Ticket seats for Bayern at 410pm having queued for a couple of minutes. Confirmatory email with digital links arrived straight after and tickets secured in Google wallet. Price aside v slick.
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Got 2 of our Season Ticket seats for Bayern at 410pm having queued for a couple of minutes. Confirmatory email with digital links arrived straight after and tickets secured in Google wallet. Price aside v slick.
Good stuff, hope it's a cracker.
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When is the ST deadline line for Bayern?
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Got 2 of our Season Ticket seats for Bayern at 410pm having queued for a couple of minutes. Confirmatory email with digital links arrived straight after and tickets secured in Google wallet. Price aside v slick.
Good stuff, hope it's a cracker.
Told my son this will be the only one we attend... and that it's his birthday present...
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When is the ST deadline line for Bayern?
Tuesday, September 10 (9.30am) 2024/25 Claret, Villan and Cub members who attended a UEFA Europa Conference League match at Villa Park last season
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When is the ST deadline line for Bayern?
Tuesday, September 10 (9.30am) 2024/25 Claret, Villan and Cub members who attended a UEFA Europa Conference League match at Villa Park last season
Season ticket holders have until 5pm on Monday, September 9 to claim their own seat
...then it's the above.
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Mings and kamara both named in CL squad. They must be confident both will be back soon to put them in.
Btw qhats happened to rory wilson? Seems highly rated but not in "2nd squad"
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I feel really sad about all of this. I haven’t been to VP for 2 years now and was determined to make it for one of these games. It’s a kick in the teeth.
However, we demand that the club competes on the pitch. We expect big name signings on commensurate salaries. Some of us even desire a bigger stadium to support all of that. This pricing is absolutely necessary to afford those things. It’s shit and it hurts and I sometimes hate the modern game. But they simply must generate more cash to breach that ceiling above us. We can’t have it both ways, unfortunately.
Is it fuck.
Agreed. An extra £20 a ticket is less than £1m per match - absolutely piss all in the scheme of things.
It is piss all in the scheme of things but me and MDC Jnr plan to sell back our seats to some of our home league fixtures to cover the inflated costs of CL tickets. Villa will be able to resell those seats at full price. MDC Jnr is 13 so they will sell that for whatever full price is for Lower Witton these days. I wouldn't be surprised if a few ST holders with kids do this so potentially the club will be able to improve their Income Per Seat ratio (I made that up but I expect there is something like that they look at).
A word of warning with this plan. Villa no longer resell seats until every last GA and GA+ seat has been sold, which last season didn’t happen much, if at all.
Really? Thanks for the heads up - I know a few Villa fans who would like to go to a game. Presumably I'm allowed to transfer our seats to another person as long as they have an account? One of my mates has a ST near us and if he doesn't come he's transferred his seat to one of my kids whose on the ST waiting list - I hope they haven't stopped that as he saw a few games last season.
This is still fine. You are not allowed to sell tickets on but you can pass them on, via the ticket office, to anyone with a fan ID.
It’s just that you can also pass them back to the club for resale, & they won’t try to sell your ticket till they’ve sold all of theirs.
Ok great - thanks!
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There are two lists - List A is made up of senior players over the age of 21 and you can name as many as 25 in this pool. List B, meanwhile, is made up of youngsters, who must be born after 1 January, 2003. There is an unlimited number of spots on this list for Villa to utilise. Here are the two lists according to the UEFA website...
List A: Emiliano Martinez, Robin Olsen, Joe Gauci, Matty Cash, Kosta Nedeljkovic, Ezri Konsa, Pau Torres, Diego Carlos, Tyrone Mings, Ian Maatsen, Lucas Digne, Boubacar Kamara, Ross Barkley, John McGinn, Youri Tielemans, Emiliano Buendia, Jaden Philogene, Amadou Onana, Jacob Ramsey, Morgan Rogers, Leon Bailey, Jhon Duran, Ollie Watkins
List B: Oliwier Zych, Sam Proctor, Sam Lewis, Lamare Bogarde, Triston Rowe, Sil Swinkels, Thierry Katsukunya, Ajani Burchall, Kyrie Pierre, Todd Alcock, Travis Patterson, Mikell Barnes, Charlie Pavey, Kadan Young, Ben Broggio, I-Lani Edwards, Charlie Lutz, Kobei Moore, Luka Lynch
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So 23 man A squad, as expected. Interesting to see Mings and Kamara in there. I'm sure we can name a new squad for the knockout stages, so we must be expecting them to both feature sooner rather than later. (Or we don't even have 23 players to name)
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I'm guessing we named everyone we could, so we named Mings and Kamara as we may as well otherwise the spots would be empty, even if they are both a while away from playing.
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
Thanks. No e-mail for me yet either.
Edit: I've asked question of AVFC Support on Twitter who usually quite good at responding.
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So the club have given ST holders a whole weekend to mull over the implications of a huge hit to the bank account. Buy the tickets or fuck off.
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I would also like to know this
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such a massive shame that the achievement and genuine excitment on being in the CL and the draw has been tarnished for fans and so very publicly.
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I would also like to know this
My ticket is showing in among the list of league gamesleft on my season ticket in the app but Villa have form for doing weird things with cup tickets.
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When you get your email there’s the usual button to add it to your Wallet.
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When you get your email there’s the usual button to add it to your Wallet.
Aah! right. Thanks. I'll await the e-mail.
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When you get your email there’s the usual button to add it to your Wallet.
Not on mine there isn’t, just a payment confirmation
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When you get your email there’s the usual button to add it to your Wallet.
Not on mine there isn’t, just a payment confirmation
I'm the same. Those Ipswich peasants have sent paper tickets too. Skint rats.
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Just all so sad. The experience of going to Villa Park with our Mom and remembering our Dad and members of this parish we've lost, genuinely feels tarnished and in terms of the Champions League games I was really looking forward to, I'll be at 2 max instead of the 4 I wanted.
The disabled parking thing is even worse of course in truth, there should be no less complaining about that.
I do though want to say a thank you to Lee Preece for responses today, to the complaint email on ticket prices I got in last night. We were in the Champions League Cup scheme ( Feels naive now to have ticked that box! But you know 150th anniversary, some new history being made and I wanted to support that, I'm a supporter. Just not one that matters to the clubs senior management any more). Anyhow we're now not in the scheme and have some choice back and I appreciate the help to get that ( As others have said, it's worth trying not to have a go at the folk whose job it is to deal with the fall out from this PR disaster).
Final thought for tonight and if this offends I can frankly live with it, I think there should be a scientific term for any so called football supporter who tells fellow supporters priced out of matches, that is just the way it is, support your club or get out. That term should be " Pricks" , personally when I sing " Villa till I die" I actually mean it as much if not more than when I was a starry eyed 14 year old at the European Cup Final ( I mean just being " Abroad" was bloody amazing in my world back then) I'll not be taking any lectures on my support based on what isn't in my bank account ta very much.
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In terms of Disabled supporters parking issue, never have I been so glad to be out of date. Well done Villa you can do it! ( The world can change a lot in the time it takes this old fart to type!).
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In terms of Disabled supporters parking issue, never have I been so glad to be out of date. Well done Villa you can do it! ( The world can change a lot in the time it takes this old fart to type!).
I’m not sure I’d be giving the club too much credit. They’ve reversed course, fair enough, but they still made the decision in the first place.
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Unfortunately this whole sorry pricing saga / disaster is not only going to leave our sour taste with the loyal fans but it's also now mainstream football media news and will overshadow the games . Heads need to roll for this (as in P45's) . We know Sawaris doesn't fuck about if he needs to and that time has arrived again .
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Can’t imagine that vindictively rinsing the disabled, will have impressed any of our potential sponsors.
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The short sighted greed is surely not worth the PR disaster that has unfolded this week. More worrying that a sane voice at the club could not see how this was going to unfold. If the club had given a discounted bundle of 4 matches they would have been praised and none of this would have happened. Surely the short fall in income could have been more than supplemented by corporate sponsorship across the 4 CL games.
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The one silver lining to this grey cloud of ineptitude is the behaviour of Lee Preece. He's putting up with an absolute shitstorm of complaints, working every waking hour and somehow keeping both his temper and his mind. He's an absolute credit to the club and the only one who is emerging with any credit.
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I was out most of yesterday so only caught little tit bits of the disabled debacle and i've only just got round to reading it all properly. What a clusterfuck of an idea that was. He/they must have thought 'well, we're a champions league club now so they can pay more'. Utterly ridiculous and well done on the journalist who called it out.
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Lee Preece is the 2nd best ever for Villa - only beaten by Paul McGrath.
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Met Lee Preece a couple of times, nice chap. I bet he's glad it's an international weekend. He deserves a pint.
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I met Lee a few times and he's a great fella. He's been at the club years and you'll be hard pressed to find a bad word about him or a fan having a bad experience after contacting him. There's a reason new owners keep him on while replacing other roles.
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Met Lee Preece a couple of times, nice chap. I bet he's glad it's an international weekend. He deserves a pint.
I bet he's still working.
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The short sighted greed is surely not worth the PR disaster that has unfolded this week. More worrying that a sane voice at the club could not see how this was going to unfold. If the club had given a discounted bundle of 4 matches they would have been praised and none of this would have happened. Surely the short fall in income could have been more than supplemented by corporate sponsorship across the 4 CL games.
I don't think for one minute they didn't know a shit storm was coming and they decided to go with it anyway, and it's coming right from the top.
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The short sighted greed is surely not worth the PR disaster that has unfolded this week. More worrying that a sane voice at the club could not see how this was going to unfold. If the club had given a discounted bundle of 4 matches they would have been praised and none of this would have happened. Surely the short fall in income could have been more than supplemented by corporate sponsorship across the 4 CL games.
I don't think for one minute they didn't know a shit storm was coming and they decided to go with it anyway, and it's coming right from the top.
Pretty sure the owners would not have pissing off the punters and trashing the brand on ay agenda.
It’s even got on LinkedIn now.
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They most likely underestimated the backlash. How likely is that in a summer we spent a chunk of change on the ground, are preparing for the CL, had hundreds of millions in transfers in and out, player contracts, were facing a points deduction etc that the owners spent it blissfully unaware of what the plans for the club they've spent hundreds of millions on were?
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Wrong thread
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It's not separate though, it's still based on the criteria.
They changed the way away game criteria, there are 1 of 2 reasons for this 1. Make it more open to other fans (this hasn't happened as points or games attended would still be the same people) or 2. This is most likely to manipulate the system so that they can get GA+ season ticket holders in by giving them more points than GA season ticket holders so they jump to the front of the queue
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Think of it as a "VIP" Fast lane for the customers who pay the most .
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I have got a payment confirmation from the club (doesnt say what for but its for the price of 2 Bayern tickets). The option to buy my own seat has gone but there are no tickets to view on the website or app. Am I safe to assume that I have these tickets? Thanks
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It's not separate though, it's still based on the criteria.
They changed the way away game criteria, there are 1 of 2 reasons for this 1. Make it more open to other fans (this hasn't happened as points or games attended would still be the same people) or 2. This is most likely to manipulate the system so that they can get GA+ season ticket holders in by giving them more points than GA season ticket holders so they jump to the front of the queue
I dont think it is and haven't seen anything to suggest it. People were saying this last season too and it wasn't true then.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
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I have got a payment confirmation from the club (doesnt say what for but its for the price of 2 Bayern tickets). The option to buy my own seat has gone but there are no tickets to view on the website or app. Am I safe to assume that I have these tickets? Thanks
See if you can open your online account. Under 'tickets' they show between Ipswich and Man Utd.
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It's not separate though, it's still based on the criteria.
They changed the way away game criteria, there are 1 of 2 reasons for this 1. Make it more open to other fans (this hasn't happened as points or games attended would still be the same people) or 2. This is most likely to manipulate the system so that they can get GA+ season ticket holders in by giving them more points than GA season ticket holders so they jump to the front of the queue
I dont think it is and haven't seen anything to suggest it. People were saying this last season too and it wasn't true then.
So you haven't see the blocks that are being held for them then?
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I've seen that they have a specific block, I've not seen anything to suggest that they don't need to meet the same criteria, same as last year. The idea that we're handing out 700 seats to people who may not have done 5 aways minimum last year seems far fetched.
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
Same here.
Payment taken but as of yet no email with ticket details.
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I wonder how many GA+ tickets they would hold back for, let's say, Carlisle away in the League Cup or whatever it's called, for a Wednesday night in January.
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I've seen that they have a specific block, I've not seen anything to suggest that they don't need to meet the same criteria, same as last year. The idea that we're handing out 700 seats to people who may not have done 5 aways minimum last year seems far fetched.
From what's happened in the last week things like that for this club aren't far fetched at all, in fact I'd say in the words of Heck they are On Brand
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We don't make any money out of it so I doubt he'd care.
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If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
Same here.
Payment taken but as of yet no email with ticket details.
Received our tickets with email confirmation and loaded on app
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The Bayern tickerts aren't showing up on the site for me yet, given i'm a claret member rather than season ticket holder, should i expect the option to show up before tuesday / wednesday or is there a glitch?
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8)If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
Same here.
Payment taken but as of yet no email with ticket details.
Received our tickets with email confirmation and loaded on app
Are you in the Cup scheme?
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Have you tried switching your banking account off and switching it on again?
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8)If you opted in to the cup ticket scheme (which I did without dreaming they would be eye-wateringly expensive) how do you receive your ticket? Are they added to your digital season ticket?
I phoned this morning (only took 1 hour at 5th attempt of not being cut off) and was told payment would be taken today which it was before midday and told eticket would be emailed later today. Not received anything yet. Knowing the expertise of the ticketing system I am concerned that if I have not received the email by deadline on Monday, Mr Heck will sell my ticket again even though I have paid for it !
Same here.
Payment taken but as of yet no email with ticket details.
Received our tickets with email confirmation and loaded on app
Did you buy tickets via app or are you in the cup scheme? I think it is the cup scheme participants (of which I am ) whohave had money taken but not received a ticket)
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The one silver lining to this grey cloud of ineptitude is the behaviour of Lee Preece. He's putting up with an absolute shitstorm of complaints, working every waking hour and somehow keeping both his temper and his mind. He's an absolute credit to the club and the only one who is emerging with any credit.
.excellent point dave. The fans need to remember who the complaints go to. People like preece are not responsible for this but has to deal with alot of it.
Give that man a pay increase
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We don't make any money out of it so I doubt he'd care.
We've had what 4 years of fans complaining about Away games being a closed shop, so Brand Heck sees that as an opportunity to sell GA+ pay the money and get to the front of the queue. Yes we make no money from the games but can use it as leverage to gain money from other avenues.
Remember Heck has form for that kind of tactic when he took people answering a questionnaire asking for better facilities and came up with a premium price Terrace View and The Lower Grounds.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
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The Bayern tickerts aren't showing up on the site for me yet, given i'm a claret member rather than season ticket holder, should i expect the option to show up before tuesday / wednesday or is there a glitch?
Just logged on and not showing for me either. Assume it will show up in the appropriate window.
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I have got a payment confirmation from the club (doesnt say what for but its for the price of 2 Bayern tickets). The option to buy my own seat has gone but there are no tickets to view on the website or app. Am I safe to assume that I have these tickets? Thanks
See if you can open your online account. Under 'tickets' they show between Ipswich and Man Utd.
Yep on that list
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The Bayern tickerts aren't showing up on the site for me yet, given i'm a claret member rather than season ticket holder, should i expect the option to show up before tuesday / wednesday or is there a glitch?
Just logged on and not showing for me either. Assume it will show up in the appropriate window.
Not showing for me and I'm a ST holder...but I can get tickets for my 5 Family and Friends group!!!
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I really can't even fathom the extent the club has done this week to alienate the loyal fan base. It's an absolute shit show and coincidentally timed when there's an international break.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
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The one silver lining to this grey cloud of ineptitude is the behaviour of Lee Preece. He's putting up with an absolute shitstorm of complaints, working every waking hour and somehow keeping both his temper and his mind. He's an absolute credit to the club and the only one who is emerging with any credit.
Agreed. I also complained to him. Bit disappointed not to get +1000th complaint.
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If you were a youngster on the outskirts of Birmingham maybe a little north in a town or village and you wanted to see a big live champions league game , are you going to pay villa prices / GA+ prices to see us a team with no real super stars or Man City littered with them? This is hugely damaging for our future
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The one silver lining to this grey cloud of ineptitude is the behaviour of Lee Preece. He's putting up with an absolute shitstorm of complaints, working every waking hour and somehow keeping both his temper and his mind. He's an absolute credit to the club and the only one who is emerging with any credit.
Agreed. I also complained to him. Bit disappointed not to get +1000th complaint.
I'm sure he's a nice bloke etc, but is he doing anything other than autorespond with template emails?
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If you were a youngster on the outskirts of Birmingham maybe a little north in a town or village and you wanted to see a big live champions league game , are you going to pay villa prices / GA+ prices to see us a team with no real super stars or Man City littered with them? This is hugely damaging for our future
Agreed.
Heck might just be the personification of it but him going would at the very least cause a re-think and somebody more grounded in the reality of where we are making these decisions
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The latest Amazon Prime advert features three of the four English clubs who will be playing in this year’s Champions League. See if you can hazard a guess about which club it omits.
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The latest Amazon Prime advert features three of the four English clubs who will be playing in this year’s Champions League. See if you can hazard a guess about which club it omits.
Yep saw that yesterday, so fucking predictable.
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They aren't showing any of our games so no point advertising us.
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The latest Amazon Prime advert features three of the four English clubs who will be playing in this year’s Champions League. See if you can hazard a guess about which club it omits.
They don't want us involved really
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They'll probably show the Leipzig game as they are showing one Tuesday 8pm kick off each week and we are the only British team in that slot that week. Hasn't been confirmed yet, though. They could probably have chosen Villa vs Bologna ahead of Arsenal vs Shakhtar, especially as they have Arsenal on the week before anyway.
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Prime’s first UEFA Champions League fixtures are:
17 September – AC Milan vs. Liverpool
1 October – Arsenal vs. Paris Saint-Germain
22 October – Arsenal vs. FC Shakhtar Donetsk
5 November – Liverpool vs. Bayer 04 Leverkusen
26 November – Manchester City vs. Feyenoord
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The latest Amazon Prime advert features three of the four English clubs who will be playing in this year’s Champions League. See if you can hazard a guess about which club it omits.
Are the clips of those teams from Champions League games? Maybe there's a much simpler reason there's none of us.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
I've been thinking about this a bit more. Those tickets are reserved for GA+ and corporate. Even if they apply the same criteria to them as they do to us I will still never be able to buy one of their allocation. So whether or not they apply the same criteria is largely meaningless. My window could run out at 4 homes & 1 away, there's could go all the way to 1 home. I still can't apply for tickets in their allocation. Unless they don't sell out and the club put them back into general sale.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
I've been thinking about this a bit more. Those tickets are reserved for GA+ and corporate. Even if they apply the same criteria to them as they do to us I will still never be able to buy one of their allocation. So whether or not they apply the same criteria is largely meaningless. My window could run out at 4 homes & 1 away, there's could go all the way to 1 home. I still can't apply for tickets in their allocation. Unless they don't sell out and the club put them back into general sale.
I am fascinated by how Heck is going to persuade those at The Wankdorf to adopt his ticketing strategy.
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Someone tell me it's not just me.
I'm a season ticket holder. I go on to the page marked 'season ticket holders buy your own seat' for the Bayern game, click on the window and it takes me to a page marked 'seats held for season ticket holders - the following seats are held for you - select and proceed'. But, although the headings are there (season holder, event, date, price range, etc), there's not information - which means I will have to spend Monday morning phoning the club to secure my seat (lucky I'm retired). is there something I'm not doing right. Advice please.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
I've been thinking about this a bit more. Those tickets are reserved for GA+ and corporate. Even if they apply the same criteria to them as they do to us I will still never be able to buy one of their allocation. So whether or not they apply the same criteria is largely meaningless. My window could run out at 4 homes & 1 away, there's could go all the way to 1 home. I still can't apply for tickets in their allocation. Unless they don't sell out and the club put them back into general sale.
Is it 100% confirmed that they’ll be 600+ tickets saved for GA+ and corporate? I know box holders have always been given tickets to away games but I thought they’d said GA+ weren’t going to be given any. There seems to be a differing view on this.
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Prime’s first UEFA Champions League fixtures are:
17 September – AC Milan vs. Liverpool
1 October – Arsenal vs. Paris Saint-Germain
22 October – Arsenal vs. FC Shakhtar Donetsk
5 November – Liverpool vs. Bayer 04 Leverkusen
26 November – Manchester City vs. Feyenoord
Yeah and following the pattern they will probably go with Leipzig vs Villa on 10th December and Liverpool vs Lille on 21st January. Not sure if they have any matches in the last week when all the games are on Wednesday.
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
I've been thinking about this a bit more. Those tickets are reserved for GA+ and corporate. Even if they apply the same criteria to them as they do to us I will still never be able to buy one of their allocation. So whether or not they apply the same criteria is largely meaningless. My window could run out at 4 homes & 1 away, there's could go all the way to 1 home. I still can't apply for tickets in their allocation. Unless they don't sell out and the club put them back into general sale.
Is it 100% confirmed that they’ll be 600+ tickets saved for GA+ and corporate? I know box holders have always been given tickets to away games but I thought they’d said GA+ weren’t going to be given any. There seems to be a differing view on this.
It's on the ticket details page: https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/)
Bottom line:
(https://i.ibb.co/Fm5SDCk/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Fm5SDCk)
If they're not fenced off for them then why list the seat locations?
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Just shy of 40% of our Young Boys allocation going to corporate/GA+ is utter bollocks.
Not nice is it when you have no chance of getting an away ticket
I am not sure if there is any substances to this story.
I've been thinking about this a bit more. Those tickets are reserved for GA+ and corporate. Even if they apply the same criteria to them as they do to us I will still never be able to buy one of their allocation. So whether or not they apply the same criteria is largely meaningless. My window could run out at 4 homes & 1 away, there's could go all the way to 1 home. I still can't apply for tickets in their allocation. Unless they don't sell out and the club put them back into general sale.
Is it 100% confirmed that they’ll be 600+ tickets saved for GA+ and corporate? I know box holders have always been given tickets to away games but I thought they’d said GA+ weren’t going to be given any. There seems to be a differing view on this.
It's on the ticket details page: https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/06/BSC-Young-Boys-ticket-details/)
Bottom line:
(https://i.ibb.co/Fm5SDCk/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Fm5SDCk)
If they're not fenced off for them then why list the seat locations?
Thanks for the update.
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Someone tell me it's not just me.
I'm a season ticket holder. I go on to the page marked 'season ticket holders buy your own seat' for the Bayern game, click on the window and it takes me to a page marked 'seats held for season ticket holders - the following seats are held for you - select and proceed'. But, although the headings are there (season holder, event, date, price range, etc), there's not information - which means I will have to spend Monday morning phoning the club to secure my seat (lucky I'm retired). is there something I'm not doing right. Advice please.
If you opted into the cup scheme then you don't need to secure your seat. If you look in your account and then under tickets, Bayern Munich should be in there.
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Someone tell me it's not just me.
I'm a season ticket holder. I go on to the page marked 'season ticket holders buy your own seat' for the Bayern game, click on the window and it takes me to a page marked 'seats held for season ticket holders - the following seats are held for you - select and proceed'. But, although the headings are there (season holder, event, date, price range, etc), there's not information - which means I will have to spend Monday morning phoning the club to secure my seat (lucky I'm retired). is there something I'm not doing right. Advice please.
If you opted into the cup scheme then you don't need to secure your seat. If you look in your account and then under tickets, Bayern Munich should be in there.
If you are in the Cup scheme and payment has already been taken are we getting a ticket via email or straight onto our season ticket Ads?
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I really don't know. They've taken payment, it's within my ticket section, but there's no download option. Would imagine they'll send emails out for adding to your wallet over the next weeks.
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Thanks for the reply Ads, but I get on to the page saying ' the following seats are held for you' but there is no information for me to confirm and proceed, so I get no further. Just wondered if this has happened to other ST holders. I'll have to waste a morning on the phone tomorrow.
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I really don't know. They've taken payment, it's within my ticket section, but there's no download option. Would imagine they'll send emails out for adding to your wallet over the next weeks.
Thanks
The help is very much appreciated.
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I had the £70 taken from my account but no email yet. I couldn't remember ticking the box on paying for season ticket. Maybe easier to give Mr Heck my bank details and he just takes what he wants, when he wants. Who am I to complain...
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It is strange though because other Bournemouth Lions had an email thanking them for purchasing the BM ticket before the payment was taken.
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Thanks for the reply Ads, but I get on to the page saying ' the following seats are held for you' but there is no information for me to confirm and proceed, so I get no further. Just wondered if this has happened to other ST holders. I'll have to waste a morning on the phone tomorrow.
Martyn....have you logged onto the official site and then into the ticketing part of it
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When I went into my online account under tickets my 3 were sitting there without me doing anything.
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Thanks for the reply Ads, but I get on to the page saying ' the following seats are held for you' but there is no information for me to confirm and proceed, so I get no further. Just wondered if this has happened to other ST holders. I'll have to waste a morning on the phone tomorrow.
Martyn, this is exactly me!
In fact it's inviting me to buy tickets for my family and friends but not for myself.
I fully understand what Ads is saying but it simply isn't showing anything for me, whichever route I take through the emails, OS or my own account page.
I honestly can't remember if I ticked the box for the Cup Scheme but that is what I always do!
I have tried every route available, including the "join the cup scheme" alert but it only invites me to do so for my F&F group.....not ME!
Bonkers!
I have been trying everything since Friday and getting slightly different versions of the same thing but no link to get a ticket for ME!
So, if anyone can help, please do...I am very open to advice and guidance.
Like Martyn, I anticipate a long time on the phone tomorrow....while also trying to get Bern tickets and Wycombe tickets!
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I forgot I'd joined the cup scheme and had similar problems. I still have no emails and also have the button to buy my own tickets that then shows an empty list. It confused me enough that I contacted the club on Twitter to get confirmation and I've worked in IT for 30 years ::)
Go to the main site https://www.avfc.co.uk/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/).
At the top right, click Tickets.
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For me it automatically logs me in and I can now see my name and fan ID at the top right, if you don't, click the Person icon in the top right corner and login. It should look like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/3NNMJXB/image.png) (https://ibb.co/3NNMJXB)
Now click your Name/Fan ID to go to your account settings.
On the left you should see a link for Tickets, click it:
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It will list all of your tickets for all competitions. I have 2 for each game as I manage 1 other ST. You should see Bayern in the list. If you do, relax and open a beer/make a brew. If you don't, phone the club.
(https://i.ibb.co/pZL3j88/image.png) (https://ibb.co/pZL3j88)
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Being a bit lazy here but can someone help me? Are they adding Bayern home tickets to the season ticket or sending out digitally to download/print at home?
Thanks
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
I think you’re right. Before the game, half time or at the end but not during. Emery and the players have been fantastic for us. This isn’t an argument with them.
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This ticketing fiasco is interferences with the discussion regards actual champions league football.
I hope it's sorted out and that there is a revised and fair price for those who are going to watch and pay. I think I would more likely attend away match for the experience.
Also when Premier league return I thinking of a Champions League contender thread 24/25 for specific discussion on Villa battle with the top 8 teams for top 4.
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Many thanks rjp...I'd done all the rest, it was just checking down the tickets list that I hadn't done.
The Bayern tickets are listed there but with three icons next to them...I know one is for printing but can't work out the other two.
All of the other tickets only have two icons next to them....I am assuming these are because they have been paid for (as in ST payment)....SO, I now know the tickets have been reserved for us but I am still unsure of whether I actually have them or not.
I still expect a few frustrating hours on the phone trying to sort it out.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
I agree with you on this to an extent. I dont know where he has heard it (tik tok probably) but my son has said something about a red card protest before kick off on Saturday. It needs to be something visible and to have maximum effect the TV cameras need to see it, which they are more likely to inside the ground. But i do agree about game time, your right Unai and the players dont deserve any of this coming their way.
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Feel somewhat flat about CL. The elation of qualifying back in May seemingly eroded the last week or so. No away matches conducive to a good away following volume wise coupled with evil home ticket prices means everything I was looking forward to pretty much ain’t happening.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
I agree with you on this to an extent. I dont know where he has heard it (tik tok probably) but my son has said something about a red card protest before kick off on Saturday. It needs to be something visible and to have maximum effect the TV cameras need to see it, which they are more likely to inside the ground. But i do agree about game time, your right Unai and the players dont deserve any of this coming their way.
No reason why we can’t show support for Unai and team AND throw hand grenades into the directors box.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
I agree with you on this to an extent. I dont know where he has heard it (tik tok probably) but my son has said something about a red card protest before kick off on Saturday. It needs to be something visible and to have maximum effect the TV cameras need to see it, which they are more likely to inside the ground. But i do agree about game time, your right Unai and the players dont deserve any of this coming their way.
If I remember right there was a red card protest not long after the pound sign one….the red card one looked pants against a back drop of people in claret or those in black coats
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If you were a youngster on the outskirts of Birmingham maybe a little north in a town or village and you wanted to see a big live champions league game , are you going to pay villa prices / GA+ prices to see us a team with no real super stars or Man City littered with them? This is hugely damaging for our future
HONK. tilton wanker over here
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In my own news re tickets, I’ve decided to can a CL game ticket and am instead going to see the ODI v West Indies at the end of next May. As usual Edgbaston will be majority Villa fans anyway, and we’ll have won the FA Cup by then too.
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I commented on the quality of the away fixtures when the draw came out and got slated for suggesting it was a crap draw for people intending to go the games so I agree with you on that front.
However I can't wait for the Bayern game and will be snapping tickets up the minute they come out.
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In terms of our draw and fixtures , if we could swap our home and away games around I'd feel more confident (e.g. Play the weaker teams down B6) . As it stands I think we have a tough draw.
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In my own news re tickets, I’ve decided to can a CL game ticket and am instead going to see the ODI v West Indies at the end of next May. As usual Edgbaston will be majority Villa fans anyway, and we’ll have won the FA Cup by then too.
Cricket over Villa. In the Champions League?
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In my own news re tickets, I’ve decided to can a CL game ticket and am instead going to see the ODI v West Indies at the end of next May. As usual Edgbaston will be majority Villa fans anyway, and we’ll have won the FA Cup by then too.
Cricket over Villa. In the Champions League?
There's nowt so queer as folk.
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In terms of our draw and fixtures , if we could swap our home and away games around I'd feel more confident (e.g. Play the weaker teams down B6) . As it stands I think we have a tough draw.
You really are a pessimistic glass empty guy. Can you not see a Villa win at young boys, Bruge and Monaco? Plus home wins against Bayern, Juventus, Bologna and Celtic? It's a great draw and one we should all be looking forward to with optimism. Dare to dream a little and have let a bit of sunshine in matey.
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In terms of our draw and fixtures , if we could swap our home and away games around I'd feel more confident (e.g. Play the weaker teams down B6) . As it stands I think we have a tough draw.
You really are a pessimistic glass empty guy. Can you not see a Villa win at young boys, Bruge and Monaco? Plus home wins against Bayern, Juventus, Bologna and Celtic? It's a great draw and one we should all be looking forward to with optimism. Dare to dream a little and have let a bit of sunshine in matey.
Ha fair enough , I love your optimism especially coming from Telford ;). My point was more around the way the draw has played out H/A I believe it's tough. As we found out last season these euro teams all love a premier league scalp .
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Someone tell me it's not just me.
I'm a season ticket holder. I go on to the page marked 'season ticket holders buy your own seat' for the Bayern game, click on the window and it takes me to a page marked 'seats held for season ticket holders - the following seats are held for you - select and proceed'. But, although the headings are there (season holder, event, date, price range, etc), there's not information - which means I will have to spend Monday morning phoning the club to secure my seat (lucky I'm retired). is there something I'm not doing right. Advice please.
If you opted into the cup scheme then you don't need to secure your seat. If you look in your account and then under tickets, Bayern Munich should be in there.
You'd think that but I received the email saying my ticket was purchased, but wasn't sent the ticket so asked AVFCSupport where it was they told me they'd attempted to take the payment but it had been blocked. So obviously I contacted my bank only for them to tell me no attempt had been made. So I brought the ticket using the card that Villa said had blocked the payment and surprise it worked and I now have the ticket. I'll be messaging Villa to take me out of the pointless cup scheme tomorrow
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If you were a youngster on the outskirts of Birmingham maybe a little north in a town or village and you wanted to see a big live champions league game , are you going to pay villa prices / GA+ prices to see us a team with no real super stars or Man City littered with them? This is hugely damaging for our future
HONK. tilton wanker over here
Defo
Besides if Cleeve want to see Cit-eh - the tickets at Cit-eh are much easier to get hold of as there are always available (empty) seats.
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Just brought my ticket for the Bayern game (in for a penny or in this case £79.00)
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Just brought my ticket for the Bayern game (in for a penny or in this case £79.00)
Still undecided about attending - can get one tomorrow (I think) as am a member and went to conference league last season.
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Fingers crossed. Currently number 34 in the phone queue to claim my ST seat for the Bayern game, having been unable to get anywhere online. The joys and stresses of the CL.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
Don't worry, it's only Everton. There could be 90 minutes of booing at VP, we'd still win 3-0 leaving Pickford with his big, angry, red face.
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If there are going to be protests this weekend i hope they are all kept outside of the ground . Emery and the players don't deserve any of the negativity.
Don't worry, it's only Everton. There could be 90 minutes of booing at VP, we'd still win 3-0 leaving Pickford with his big, angry, red face.
Banana skin.
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So, after almost an hour on the phone, waiting to claim my ST seat for the Bayern game, I'm told that I'm already in the cup scheme and have been since I bought my season ticket. The Bayern game has already been debited from my account. This was news to me as I certainly didn't knowingly join the cup scheme. Anyway, I've dropped it now as I can't attend every game. Anyone else unwittingly joined the cup scheme?
I have to say, the phone process was pretty painless and the staff member I spoke to was very helpful.
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Apologies if it's been covered before, but is it possible to unhitch your online Villa account from automatic cup ticket purchase without having to phone up the over-stretched ticket office? I can't see anything on my a/c pages which allow for this.
I did request it at renewal, but now I want out of automatic purchase of eye-watering ticket prices.
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Apologies if it's been covered before, but is it possible to unhitch your online Villa account from automatic cup ticket purchase without having to phone up the over-stretched ticket office? I can't see anything on my a/c pages which allow for this.
I did request it at renewal, but now I want out of automatic purchase of eye-watering ticket prices.
I think you can do it by sending a DM to @AVFCSupport on Twitter. Include your name and fan ID.
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Just brought my ticket for the Bayern game (in for a penny or in this case £79.00)
Still undecided about attending - can get one tomorrow (I think) as am a member and went to conference league last season.
I've just bought mine too. It might be the only one I bother with.
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Was told to contact the Premium Team directly on GA+ getting easy access to the aways.
Anyway, got my ticket. Upper B13, it's more like a normal away this rime choosing your seat.
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Was told to contact the Premium Team directly on GA+ getting easy access to the aways.
Anyway, got my ticket. Upper B13, it's more like a normal away this rime choosing your seat.
Ads, rjp posted some imteresting info on the away tickets thread which seems to suggest only 10% of tickets for Hosp/GA+
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17 games to go all the way . I'd estimate as a fan to follow it all the way is minimum £6000 with all the flights etc , possibly nearer to £10,000 in reality.
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Was told to contact the Premium Team directly on GA+ getting easy access to the aways.
Anyway, got my ticket. Upper B13, it's more like a normal away this rime choosing your seat.
Ads, rjp posted some imteresting info on the away tickets thread which seems to suggest only 10% of tickets for Hosp/GA+
Yes, the seat numbers aren't contiguous. They jump from 633 to 705. They've been given between 140 and 160 which is much more reasonable. Given recent events, I hope you can forgive me for fearing the worst :)
Priced as above in Block B13, Rows 9-16, Seats 625-717
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17 games to go all the way . I'd estimate as a fan to follow it all the way is minimum £6000 with all the flights etc , possibly nearer to £10,000 in reality.
Tickets for the CL final alone go for almost that much on resale platforms. It we get to the final, many Villa fans will be forking out thousands for a match ticket, just as many of us did for the Euros Final.
Liverpool v Spurs CL final tickets were going for £9,000 each or example.
Football can be bloody expensive, especially when you are talking about reaching finals and going to every game.
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There will be zero shortages of takers for any Villa tickets available wherever, whenever, formal, informal, official or unofficial in the event we get to latter stages (QF onwards).
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With tickets being non-refundable, what are the options if you then can't go?
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Finally had my ticket confirmation email come through.
I can’t bloody download it though …… arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh !!!!
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I had to force quit the app, then it was there to download when I went back in
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So, after almost an hour on the phone, waiting to claim my ST seat for the Bayern game, I'm told that I'm already in the cup scheme and have been since I bought my season ticket. The Bayern game has already been debited from my account. This was news to me as I certainly didn't knowingly join the cup scheme. Anyway, I've dropped it now as I can't attend every game. Anyone else unwittingly joined the cup scheme?
I have to say, the phone process was pretty painless and the staff member I spoke to was very helpful.
Well done Martyn!
I was very much in the same boat as you...checked my account this morning and my "purchase" had been completed even though I hadn't been able to do anything connected with a purchase since Friday! Confirmation email arrived at 3.30pm this afternoon!
Trying to get tickets for Wycombe with my regular away game companion...we log on at same time and go for it when BUY appears....I was sent to a queue for 6 minutes, she went straight to the seating plan! No sense in any of this.
Glad you got sorted mate!
Up The Bloody Villa!
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Was told to contact the Premium Team directly on GA+ getting easy access to the aways.
Anyway, got my ticket. Upper B13, it's more like a normal away this rime choosing your seat.
Ads, rjp posted some imteresting info on the away tickets thread which seems to suggest only 10% of tickets for Hosp/GA+
Our coach steward made this very clear to us on our first away trip last season...reading out a club statement to us...10% was the allocation for hosp/GA+ etc and that's where it was going to stay...
Apparently!
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Show me the way to Barcelona
Bayern Munich and a bank loana
Got a new credit card today especially. Might pay it back, might not.
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Remember under Lerner you could get an Aston Villa MBNA credit card in claret & blue with the badge and stuff on it
that was Fab
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Remember under Lerner you could get an Aston Villa MBNA credit card in claret & blue with the badge and stuff on it
that was Fab
Yes I think we used one to pay Habib Beye's wages.
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Remember under Lerner you could get an Aston Villa MBNA credit card in claret & blue with the badge and stuff on it
that was Fab
I had one of those. After applying for it you could also get a European Cup winners shirt signed by Dennis Mortimer. I wear it only on special occasions as I don't want to wash it and risk losing the signature.
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Remember under Lerner you could get an Aston Villa MBNA credit card in claret & blue with the badge and stuff on it
that was Fab
I had one of them . Went sadly the same way as my old Access card
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Villa's game at Young Boys will be live on Virgin Media 2 over here.
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Villa's game at Young Boys will be live on Virgin Media 2 over here.
Is that the only channel showing it? I checked on prime and we dont appear to have been selected by them
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Villa's game at Young Boys will be live on Virgin Media 2 over here.
Is that the only channel showing it? I checked on prime and we dont appear to have been selected by them
I doubt it, but it's free to air for those of us in Ireland (or with VPNs).
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Our Youth game at Young Boys is free of charge apparently.
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Our game at Young Boys is on TNT Sports 1
https://www.live-footballontv.com/live-champions-league-football-on-tv.html
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Will be interesting to see how many tickets are available for members at 0930 for Bayern. Will be trying to get some for A2/A1. You would think it will be a free for all and they'll be gone in 10 mins.
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Will be interesting to see how many tickets are available for members at 0930 for Bayern. Will be trying to get some for A2/A1. You would think it will be a free for all and they'll be gone in 10 mins.
I'm not sure it will be due to the extortionate prices.
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I'm in the queue, number 140538, there are 2092 ahead of me, estimated wait time is more than an hour.
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I'm in the queue, number 140538, there are 2092 ahead of me, estimated wait time is more than an hour.
Is that for Heaton Park or Wembley?
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I'm in the queue, number 140538, there are 2092 ahead of me, estimated wait time is more than an hour.
Is that for Heaton Park or Wembley?
Croker :)
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I'm in the queue, number 140538, there are 2092 ahead of me, estimated wait time is more than an hour.
I'm now 1984, so in 10 min's, 108 have been served.
At this rate it will take 3 hours
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3121 ahead of me! I went in at 7:30 this am instantly to check everything, should have just left my browser open and refreshed!
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4350 in front of me. I wonder how many of those will get more than one ticket? Most I would imagine!!
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Logged in at 8:30 got to the site, then option to buy made available dead on 9:30 then site crashed.
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I guess if it suddenly drops it means it's sold out. I'm hoping for 2.
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Another 10 min's gone and the queue has only reduced by 41, still 1941 ahead of me
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The last time it was this bad to get in was for Wembley final tickets...
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I'm in 2 queues, neither moving lol so something is amiss. Got to go to the hospital at 10 so I'll be missing out unfortunately.
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Woo-hoo I’m in!
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Another 10 min's gone and the queue has only reduced by 41, still 1941 ahead of me
queue paused for me. Shit site can't cope with the demand. Probably selling all remaining tickets to corporate customers
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Yes I'm still 3069 and queue paused
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They're probably upping the prices as we speak!
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Both of my queues are paused. Oh well, that's what you get for attending all the European games last season.
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Got 3 together in the back row of the North Stand. £145 for me and the kids.
Seems like a bit of a lottery judging by the queues.
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Heck: "Quick, flick the dynamic pricing switch on!"
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That was a piece of piss compared to the Olympiakos game, got in the queue around 9am and booked tickets at 9:31. Still think it's ridiculous that someone who went to every UECL game has to go in the same window as someone who only went to one game.
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Got 3 together in the back row of the North Stand. £145 for me and the kids.
Seems like a bit of a lottery judging by the queues.
That seems pretty reasonable. Glad you got sorted.
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Our game at Young Boys is on TNT Sports 1
https://www.live-footballontv.com/live-champions-league-football-on-tv.html
Thank you Holte132 thats great to know!
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I got in the queue at 9:15 - has moved 60 people further forward in that time.
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That was a piece of piss compared to the Olympiakos game, got in the queue around 9am and booked tickets at 9:31. Still think it's ridiculous that someone who went to every UECL game has to go in the same window as someone who only went to one game.
This. All 3 of us have been on trying to get tickets and one of my sons has got us 3 tickets - I'm still showing "The queue is paused" and same number in queue as at 09.16 !
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My PC browser is still paused, so I've gone in on my phone via the app and I have a 3 min wait with 600 ahead wtf?
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Got 3 together in the back row of the North Stand. £145 for me and the kids.
Seems like a bit of a lottery judging by the queues.
That seems pretty reasonable. Glad you got sorted.
Cheers mate. Couldn’t be happier. One down, three to go. My boy, especially, will be chuffed. His best mate will be at every game and I really don’t want him missing out. I feel very lucky I can afford it.
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Mine seems to have started moving
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That was a piece of piss compared to the Olympiakos game, got in the queue around 9am and booked tickets at 9:31. Still think it's ridiculous that someone who went to every UECL game has to go in the same window as someone who only went to one game.
The fact they don’t do a Members categorised criteria to avoid this nonsense is ridiculous. Maybe one to be bought up at the next FAB.
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Logged in at 8:30 got to the site, then option to buy made available dead on 9:30 then site crashed.
That’s what I had. I refreshed the page and luckily gave me the option to buy, it then happened again with the ticket in the basket but refreshed again and all good.
Champions League baby!!
£85 for upper north is a piss take but hay ho!
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My PC browser is still paused, so I've gone in on my phone via the app and I have a 3 min wait with 600 ahead wtf?
Just did the same on the phone, told me i was no. 10 in the queue, 1 min wait, got in and it kicked me out again, and put me at 7763 in front of me.
So back on to the laptop queue 1086 ahead of me now
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My PC browser is still paused, so I've gone in on my phone via the app and I have a 3 min wait with 600 ahead wtf?
Just did the same on the phone, told me i was no. 10 in the queue, 1 min wait, got in and it kicked me out again, and put me at 7763 in front of me.
So back on to the laptop queue 1086 ahead of me now
Yep same here, 13 mins to go now on the laptop
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I joined at 9:30, was told I was 5000 and something in the queue. It didn't move. Joined in a new tab, was number 900. Got to the front of the queue, clicked the button to join the ticket buying process and was just taken back to the ticketing homepage where I got put in the queue again when I ticked on home tickets.
Waste of time buying my membership.
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I’ve got in the the Bayern game isn’t showing for me, all the others are??
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Wow that was strange - it started working and counting down and then become a totally fine experience. Site work fine and quickly and had tickets booked in 1 min
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Done, £94 to sit in the Holte L4! Oh well UTV
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Wow that was strange - it started working and counting down and then become a totally fine experience. Site work fine and quickly and had tickets booked in 1 min
Exactly my experience and plenty of choice in North Upper for example.
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All sorted now, it was because it had logged me back out
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That was a piece of piss compared to the Olympiakos game, got in the queue around 9am and booked tickets at 9:31. Still think it's ridiculous that someone who went to every UECL game has to go in the same window as someone who only went to one game.
The fact they don’t do a Members categorised criteria to avoid this nonsense is ridiculous. Maybe one to be bought up at the next FAB.
I’ve said this before, went to all the CL home games, but all lumped in one bracket for the semi was rediculous
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Done for me and my lad. After initially crashing, it came back after a while without having to re-start.
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Wow that was strange - it started working and counting down and then become a totally fine experience. Site work fine and quickly and had tickets booked in 1 min
Exactly my experience and plenty of choice in North Upper for example.
Yeah its like they suddenly turned something on
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Wow that was strange - it started working and counting down and then become a totally fine experience. Site work fine and quickly and had tickets booked in 1 min
Same here, once it started counting down, short wait of ten mins and then through and the buying process was fine, although I had to log in again to see the Bayern game.
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My PC browser is still paused, so I've gone in on my phone via the app and I have a 3 min wait with 600 ahead wtf?
Just did the same on the phone, told me i was no. 10 in the queue, 1 min wait, got in and it kicked me out again, and put me at 7763 in front of me.
So back on to the laptop queue 1086 ahead of me now
I think they started a queue for the queue at one point…
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Anyone know what the little icon which looks like a pint glass means? I select those and they flash briefly then nothing happens.
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Anyone know what the little icon which looks like a pint glass means? I select those and they flash briefly then nothing happens.
I presume they are GA+ drink package tickets, e.g. terrace view?
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I guess so, there are loads of them scattered about though. Doesn't let me select them if I want them.
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I got confused with the seats with a WC by them. It took me a moment to realise they were for wheelchairs and not places where the level of piss meant they were officially classed as latrines.
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Starting to worry that it'll be sold out by the time i'm eligible tomorrow (unless I go down the GA+ route). Any idea on numbers left?
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Starting to worry that it'll be sold out by the time i'm eligible tomorrow (unless I go down the GA+ route). Any idea on numbers left?
Not all that many showing to be fair - practically none in Trinity which is my preference. I may wait for Bologna
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Oh well, neither queues really moved, got to the hospital and logged in again and straight in. Nothing left, keeps sending me to areas with no seats lol. To those whose queue worked enjoy the game UTV
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With the anger about the ticket prices, I did not think the game would sell out.
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First time as a member I haven't managed to get a ticket. Clearly IT issues as queues were a lottery, some moving, some not. The number of people in front of me went up at one stage. Lots of demand at the high prices but it is Bayern at the end of the day and a novelty being in the CL. We had 47000 for Juventus in 1983 when our average attendance that season was 21000. It seems to be the Villa way.
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Yep all gone.
Will try for Bologna game which may be a little less well attended if STH on here are even partially indicative of the broader bretheren
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My advice for next time is log in early if you can, then just keep refreshing the page every 5 minutes so it doesn't kick you out.
Going by what people are saying on twitter a few might use the Bologna game as a protest against the prices, but we'll see. Can't see the point personally as it's going to sell out either way.
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After that fiasco I'll give Bologna a miss, besides £97 for Bologna is OTT, even Dick Turpin wore a mask.
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My advice for next time is log in early if you can, then just keep refreshing the page every 5 minutes so it doesn't kick you out.
That was my experience, logged on just before 9 and the Bayern game wasn’t even on there, kept refreshing every so often then the game appeared about 9.10 and the buy option dead on 9.30.
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First time as a member I haven't managed to get a ticket. Clearly IT issues as queues were a lottery, some moving, some not. The number of people in front of me went up at one stage. Lots of demand at the high prices but it is Bayern at the end of the day and a novelty being in the CL. We had 47000 for Juventus in 1983 when our average attendance that season was 21000. It seems to be the Villa way.
I thought I'd check the average attendance quoted above, for 1982/83, and it was in fact 23,748. Not high, admittedly, but it was still 6th highest in the division, and only 400 less than Arsenal's average attendance, which was 5th highest. Across the board, average attendances that season were very low indeed, Liverpool's was only 34,000, Everton's 20,000.
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It was always going to sell out - they have people over a barrel. Pay or miss (one of) the biggest game(s) in 40 years... doesn't make what they are charging right.
It will probably impact other games - Everton not selling out for example.
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First time as a member I haven't managed to get a ticket. Clearly IT issues as queues were a lottery, some moving, some not. The number of people in front of me went up at one stage. Lots of demand at the high prices but it is Bayern at the end of the day and a novelty being in the CL. We had 47000 for Juventus in 1983 when our average attendance that season was 21000. It seems to be the Villa way.
I thought I'd check the average attendance quoted above, for 1982/83, and it was in fact 23,748. Not high, admittedly, but it was still 6th highest in the division, and only 400 less than Arsenal's average attendance, which was 5th highest. Across the board, average attendances that season were very low indeed, Liverpool's was only 34,000, Everton's 20,000.
Apologies I quoted 83/84 lol, 23,748 is correct. The point I was alluding to is that we have huge demand for these glamour ties where the Villa hordes come over the hill
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If I remember correctly, every Italian restaurant owner between Oxford and Manchester seemed to be there!
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If I remember correctly, every Italian restaurant owner between Oxford and Manchester seemed to be there!
There was a bit of trouble after the game, couple of knifing incidents
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If I remember correctly, every Italian restaurant owner between Oxford and Manchester seemed to be there!
I remember that being the case lol. Quite a lot of aggro unfortunately, a few Villa fans were stabbed IIRC. Loads of fighting on the old coach park after the game also, as a lad it was pretty frightening to see.
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Re message 2251. Thanks for your response FrankMosswmu. Glad you got in. All gone now.
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Kerrrching!
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Dare I ask the price of GA+?
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I'm absolutely sure Hecky wouldn't have done this if it weren't for FFP.
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What is the clown on abput that they are committed to increasing the capacity season after season ....hasnt he just reduced it ffs
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What is the clown on abput that they are committed to increasing the capacity season after season ....hasnt he just reduced it ffs
No.
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Surely that statement should also be used to promote the sale of still available GA+ tickets, albeit to the great unwashed?
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First time as a member I haven't managed to get a ticket. Clearly IT issues as queues were a lottery, some moving, some not. The number of people in front of me went up at one stage. Lots of demand at the high prices but it is Bayern at the end of the day and a novelty being in the CL. We had 47000 for Juventus in 1983 when our average attendance that season was 21000. It seems to be the Villa way.
Yep, the queue I was placed in at 9:30 didn't move at all. I then opened a new tab and was placed in a much higher position in the queue 10 minutes later. I got the 'it's your turn' message on that one but it just took me back to the tickets page and the queue. When I eventually got in another 15 minutes later, there was chuff all left other than the GA tickets which you seemingly can't select anyway. Can't believe some people are saying it worked perfectly - clearly a lottery as you said!
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Yadda, yadda.
He can still fuck off, I know he has a job to do etc etc but his behaviour towards the fans since his appointment has been disingenuous, disrespectful and pig ignorant.
And despite this he knows people like me will still spend, not because of him but because it's Aston Villa.
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Fuck off Chris.
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What is the clown on abput that they are committed to increasing the capacity season after season ....hasnt he just reduced it ffs
No.
I thought they had taken seats out to accomodate the prawnies
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Fuck off Chris.
Correct
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They've supposedly increased the capacity but as we don't sell out and don't seem to like announcing some attendances it's hard to know what capacity actually is now.
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What is the clown on abput that they are committed to increasing the capacity season after season ....hasnt he just reduced it ffs
No.
I thought they had taken seats out to accomodate the prawnies
No it’s actually increased the capacity, only slightly but still a small increase. That said as Mr Heck seems somewhat shy about announcing attendances it’s difficult to ascertain quite what’s happening.
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They've supposedly increased the capacity but as we don't sell out and don't seem to like announcing some attendances it's hard to know what capacity actually is now.
Ahh ok cheers
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I can't see the attendance for Arsenal anywhere.
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I can't see the attendance for Arsenal anywhere.
Nope still not announced.
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I can't see the attendance for Arsenal anywhere.
It was piss all apparently....
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Wanker
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Wanker
Crikey, he's blowing smoke up his own backside there. After Real and Barca, the third biggest draw in the competition and 1st at home. Well done Chris, good job it wasn't Slovan Bratislava
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So short sighted in his approach.
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Where is the pricing info for Bayern GA+ and corporate ? can't see it anywhere on the app. Not interested in going just want to see the pricing .
Seen Man Utd home game pricing :
The Aston £1,080 pp
Cornerflag £348
Sports Bar £420
Gas Lamp £348
82 Club £576
Star & Lion £348
McGregors £720
Villains £660
Cells £145
LG's £210
TV £160
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House full!
Really?
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Where is the pricing info for Bayern GA+ and corporate ? can't see it anywhere on the app. Not interested in going just want to see the pricing .
Seen Man Utd home game pricing :
The Aston £1,080 pp
Cornerflag £348
Sports Bar £420
Gas Lamp £348
82 Club £576
Star & Lion £348
McGregors £720
Villains £660
Cells £145
LG's £210
TV £160
They haven't released it yet
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Where is the pricing info for Bayern GA+ and corporate ? can't see it anywhere on the app. Not interested in going just want to see the pricing .
Seen Man Utd home game pricing :
The Aston £1,080 pp
Cornerflag £348
Sports Bar £420
Gas Lamp £348
82 Club £576
Star & Lion £348
McGregors £720
Villains £660
Cells £145
LG's £210
TV £160
They haven't released it yet
Times that by 1.3 would be my guess, depends what data they have for ticket demand I expect
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I was unable to get a ticket this morning, but have picked one up after it has ‘sold out’.
Just a case of refreshing and being patient. The odd seat pops up.
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For those of you who put in complaints, don't expect anything more than this!
Feck off heck you gobshite!
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It will be interesting to see how and where they intend to increase capacity next season. Maybe seats on the Holte car park? You don't get to actually see the match, but you can enjoy the atmosphere and know that you are a part of keeping the club where it belongs.
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So now people are paying nearly £100 a ticket, the £120GA+, £140 GA+ with some drinks, or £175 GA+ for all you eat and drink for a league game may not seem so unappealing.
Flippin' Heck!
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Don’t think those prices are staying the same for those games!
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Lower Grounds
Everton £145 per person
Wolves £175 pp
Man U £210 pp
They already do tier prices, so they'll do it again for Bayern.
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Are there not rules about attendances being disclosed?
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Wanker
PWS is a bit annoying on the match threads but there is no need for that.
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It's now literally minutes away from a week today that Champions League begins with much anticipation so when will the Young Boys v Astin Villa champions league pre match discussion thread start ?
Up the Villa!!
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It's on a need to know basis. You don't need to know. It just happens
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It's now literally minutes away from a week today that Champions League begins with much anticipation so when will the Young Boys v Astin Villa champions league pre match discussion thread start ?
Up the Villa!!
After we "funeral" Everton, the good Bad English will oblige, I'm sure.
Two concurrent pre-match threads is bad juju.
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It's now literally minutes away from a week today that Champions League begins with much anticipation so when will the Young Boys v Astin Villa champions league pre match discussion thread start ?
Up the Villa!!
Too early yet, we're still discussing Villa players on International Duty.
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Wonder if LG and TV have sold out foe BM game?
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Wonder if LG and TV have sold out foe BM game?
IDK but they will, NQAT.
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As they haven't gone on sale yet, no.
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It's on a need to know basis. You don't need to know. It just happens
"Knowledge is a deadly friend if no one sets the rules
The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools"
Confusion will be epitaph.
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'Knowledge is Power' - Reg Holdsworth.
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A lot of the complaints about that statement are attacking the messenger. There's nothing in it to be upset about really -
"Thanks for making the game a sell out, we're sorry people have missed out. We understand you're unhappy about about the costs but this is why we did it. Thanks for your support and patience whilst we continue to improve on and off the pitch."
If Nas or Wes put their name to it no-one would be calling it smug or arrogant or calling them a wanker. I get people are upset with Heck but it's got to the point now where anything he says or does gets a couple of pages of complaints on here. Can the contempt be held back for when he does things that actually deserve it like the disabled parking thing or when the original prices for the CL matches were announced.
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Bladen's replacement recommending the Aabergergasse for Tuesday.
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A lot of the complaints about that statement are attacking the messenger. There's nothing in it to be upset about really -
"Thanks for making the game a sell out, we're sorry people have missed out. We understand you're unhappy about about the costs but this is why we did it. Thanks for your support and patience whilst we continue to improve on and off the pitch."
If Nas or Wes put their name to it no-one would be calling it smug or arrogant or calling them a wanker. I get people are upset with Heck but it's got to the point now where anything he says or does gets a couple of pages of complaints on here. Can the contempt be held back for when he does things that actually deserve it like the disabled parking thing or when the original prices for the CL matches were announced.
Nah
He’s still a smug arrogant wanker
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Gasse is Lane. Pointless fact but one I know.
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Bladen's replacement recommending the Aabergergasse for Tuesday.
Haha they're also stating that some away fans have ripped out seats previously and they won't necessarily be replaced in time for the game.
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It's now literally minutes away from a week today that Champions League begins with much anticipation so when will the Young Boys v Astin Villa champions league pre match discussion thread start ?
Up the Villa!!
Too early yet, we're still discussing Villa players on International Duty.
In "Other Matches".
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
You need to ferment rebellion to make sure!
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
To make you feel at home there is an anti mayonnaise net on the left side of the Holte. A small nod to your local club😊
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
And if that doesn't work, maybe a more widespread protest will in order for the Celtic game (at least until I get my ticket).
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
To make you feel at home there is an anti mayonnaise net on the left side of the Holte. A small nod to your local club😊
Mayonnaise? Brown Sauce only!!!
Legia were not my local club, just where my niece was.
She has now moved to a ballet school in Mannheim, Germany, so I will be looking for future Villa games near there!
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
To make you feel at home there is an anti mayonnaise net on the left side of the Holte. A small nod to your local club😊
Mayonnaise? Brown Sauce only!!!
Legia were not my local club, just where my niece was.
She has now moved to a ballet school in Mannheim, Germany, so I will be looking for future Villa games near there!
A possible 2-2 result.
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
To make you feel at home there is an anti mayonnaise net on the left side of the Holte. A small nod to your local club😊
I noticed that while we were queuing up along Trinity Road to get in the Lower Holte for the Arsenal game.
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Wonder if LG and TV have sold out foe BM game?
I have an LG TV.
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
To make you feel at home there is an anti mayonnaise net on the left side of the Holte. A small nod to your local club😊
Mayonnaise? Brown Sauce only!!!
Legia were not my local club, just where my niece was.
She has now moved to a ballet school in Mannheim, Germany, so I will be looking for future Villa games near there!
A possible 2-2 result.
Ooh…took me a bit to get that!!!
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Wonder if LG and TV have sold out foe BM game?
I have an LG TV.
Im a Samsung guy myself 🙂
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Bladen's replacement recommending the Aabergergasse for Tuesday.
Haha they're also stating that some away fans have ripped out seats previously and they won't necessarily be replaced in time for the game.
Maximum 30 minute hold back on Tuesday, although not guaranteed to be one.
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
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£226 for GA+ Bayern tickets, so about another ton on top of the usual cost.
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
Same. Last one back to Zurich is 23:31.
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£226 for GA+ Bayern tickets, so about another ton on top of the usual cost.
I would have thought such things would be less popular midweek but the club obviously think otherwise.
Is the same level of scrutiny applied to booking history and such like when applying for GA+ seats, or could away fans get them?
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
Same. Last one back to Zurich is 23:31.
You might be in luck if it's running late.
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
Same. Last one back to Zurich is 23:31.
You might be in luck if it's running late.
This is Swiss Railways BV they don’t run late.
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
Same. Last one back to Zurich is 23:31.
You might be in luck if it's running late.
This is Swiss Railways BV they don’t run late.
That was my point. :)
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Just managed this second to bag a ticket in B5. Dude on Reddit had a few in his basket and released one for me to book.
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He had one left 7 mins ago if anyone has a Reddit account and want to got to r/avfc. Otherwise keep an eye and refresh the ticket link as I suspect his basket will expire in the next 10-15 mins.
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Well done getting a ticket.....i wish i knew what on earth Reddit was, i'm not really up to speed with it these days. Can't we just pay on the day and put the smallest one with his milk crate over the turnstile?
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Berner Sports Club Young Boys is official name Villa first opposition.
I'm expecting some crude humour regards the stadium name from those who like to revel in such.
Maybe can get these jokes out of the way before the pre match thread is up.
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Berner Sports Club Young Boys is official name Villa first opposition.
I'm expecting some crude humour regards the stadium name from those who like to revel in such.
Maybe can get these jokes out of the way before the pre match thread is up.
You are encouraging us? ;D
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No not really but a lot of people lack self control!
I rather we able to stick to football when the match threads come about but the first time someone mentions the actual stadium they'll be many a remark by the bawdy brigade!
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You go first… ;)
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No not really but a lot of people lack self control!
I rather we able to stick to football when the match threads come about but the first time someone mentions the actual stadium they'll be many a remark by the bawdy brigade!
“Self control”….lack of awareness alert.
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Footy, if you don't like the thought of seeing our proud Aston Villa's lads at the heart of a Wankdorf festival atmosphere, surrounded by Young Boys, I'm sad for you.
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Berner Sports Club Young Boys is official name Villa first opposition.
I'm expecting some crude humour regards the stadium name from those who like to revel in such.
Maybe can get these jokes out of the way before the pre match thread is up.
Don’t understand what could possibly be funny about Young Boys at the Wankdorf.
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I hate crude slang. I call it the Masturbationdorf Stadion
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If we aren't doing well some of our players will be pulled off at half time.
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If we aren't doing well some of our players will be pulled off at half time.
Reckon Onana will be fine though.
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If we aren't doing well some of our players will be pulled off at half time.
I’m just hoping I get out of work on time so I don’t miss the climax.
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Boys will be boys.
Lust is still a sin though.
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If you're doing it right.
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Footy, if you don't like the thought of seeing our proud Aston Villa's lads at the heart of a Wankdorf festival atmosphere, surrounded by Young Boys, I'm sad for you.
I despair I really do!
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
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Let's stick to football I'm not going to engage with the baiting !
Less than a week now before the match!
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Let's stick to football I'm not going to engage with the baiting !
Not the best word you could have chosen if you're hoping to avoid filth, mate. ☹️
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Let's stick to football I'm not going to engage with the baiting !
Less than a week now before the match!
Not even if it's masterful?
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The PDC made Owen Bates change his nickname from Master. Maybe Footy is really Barry Hearn.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
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Birmingham is full of fun.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
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Let's stick to football I'm not going to engage with the baiting !
Not the best word you could have chosen if you're hoping to avoid filth, mate. ☹️
He’s a master of it.
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I’m really hoping loads stick to their principles and allow me to be a Claret Member Scab and get to the Bologna game by staying away.
I deserve it for being in the Legia end in Warsaw.
But, I jest. The whole thing is terrible for regulars. Totally.
You need to ferment rebellion to make sure!
I’ve got Bayern tickets, so if a few of you can boycott the Juve game that would be ace, ta.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
Messy? In what way?
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
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Let’s hope not too long I’ve got a train to catch.
Same. Last one back to Zurich is 23:31.
Likewise, back to Zurich after the match for early flight home to Heathrow (and work in Leamington for 10am!). Not a clue how/where/which trains I need to look for yet mind!
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
Messy? In what way?
You missed another Wankdorf joke, I think.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
Messy? In what way?
You missed another Wankdorf joke, I think.
Doh.
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
Yep, they're playing the site like a piano.
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I locked myself out of my flat last night. It cost in between what Villa are charging a season-ticket holder and the GA price for the Bayern game to get a locksmith to come out and pick the lock.
He said he was cheap and three quotes seemed to confirm that.
So, er, here's to Jhon Durán unlocking the Bayern defence as I'm now too scared to leave home.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
I hope we don’t find ourselves in a sticky situation.
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Rightly so!
I don't know how these sorts of attempts of rude things are ever considered humour.
Footy, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Turning to serious thoughts about the game, does anyone else think this is going to be a particularly messy match?
Messy? In what way?
You missed another Wankdorf joke, I think.
Doh.
It actually means Village on a green meadow so the joke is on those who don't know what the W word means!
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
Yep, they're playing the site like a piano.
On please where do you guys get off on playing sleuths
Amateurs at best.
I was taking premptative action as it was clear there was only a matter of time before people started making crude comments in relation to the W word! It's even more distasteful using Young boys but it was always going to happen in people's attempt at humour.
I hoped people would take opportunity to get out of system before the biggest European match comes along !
Your vidid imaginations run far too wild and quite frankly your energy should be channeled on football discussion not snide and speculative accusations thank you very much!
Good Day sirs!
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I've never been to the Wankdorf, but I have been to the top of the Wank and been to the Wankhaus on the Wankbahn.
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On please where do you guys get off on playing sleuths
Amateurs at best.
I was taking premptative action as it was clear there was only a matter of time before people started making crude comments in relation to the W word! It's even more distasteful using Young boys but it was always going to happen in people's attempt at humour.
I hoped people would take opportunity to get out of system before the biggest European match comes along !
Your vidid imaginations run far too wild and quite frankly your energy should be channeled on football discussion not snide and speculative accusations thank you very much!
Good Day sirs!
I'll channel my energies into whatever I like, thanks. You can keep up this act as much as you like.
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I've never been to the Wankdorf, but I have been to the top of the Wank and been to the Wankhaus on the Wankbahn.
We went there last year. Too rainy to go up Wank though.
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I've never been to the Wankdorf, but I have been to the top of the Wank and been to the Wankhaus on the Wankbahn.
We went there last year. Too rainy to go up Wank though.
Similar to the top of Lord Hereford's Knob it's often damp on the top of the Wank.
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I've never been to the Wankdorf, but I have been to the top of the Wank and been to the Wankhaus on the Wankbahn.
We went there last year. Too rainy to go up Wank though.
Similar to the top of Lord Hereford's Knob it's often damp on the top of the Wank.
"Twmpa, Twmpa, you're gonna need a jumper".
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I'm reminded of games of Top Trumps back in the day.
(https://i.ibb.co/rFyJM7z/Two-wankel.png)
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
Yep, they're playing the site like a piano.
On please where do you guys get off on playing sleuths
Amateurs at best.
I was taking premptative action as it was clear there was only a matter of time before people started making crude comments in relation to the W word! It's even more distasteful using Young boys but it was always going to happen in people's attempt at humour.
I hoped people would take opportunity to get out of system before the biggest European match comes along !
Your vidid imaginations run far too wild and quite frankly your energy should be channeled on football discussion not snide and speculative accusations thank you very much!
Good Day sirs!
That's a lot of words to say you did exactly we said you'd done. I'm torn as to whether you're tedious AI or a tedious troll, but there's a common theme.
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
Yep, they're playing the site like a piano.
On please where do you guys get off on playing sleuths
Amateurs at best.
I was taking premptative action as it was clear there was only a matter of time before people started making crude comments in relation to the W word! It's even more distasteful using Young boys but it was always going to happen in people's attempt at humour.
I hoped people would take opportunity to get out of system before the biggest European match comes along !
Your vidid imaginations run far too wild and quite frankly your energy should be channeled on football discussion not snide and speculative accusations thank you very much!
Good Day sirs!
Come again.
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I went to the Wankdorf stadium to see an England game almost 30 years ago - it was OK. Some good humour from the England fans chanting different types of cheese and of course “The referee’s a wankdorf’ - The old town in Bern is pretty special. Everything in Switzerland is very expensive as the franc is so strong.
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I've never been to the Wankdorf, but I have been to the top of the Wank and been to the Wankhaus on the Wankbahn.
We went there last year. Too rainy to go up Wank though.
You might have had more success if you went solo.
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We're all wankers aren't we?
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I've never been Wankdorf.
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Glad this is a one off and at least no one can come up with any dirty stuff regards the other September away games.
Adams Park and Portman Road!
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Nobody is going to bite. Desist!
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It's too obvious now Footy, just give it a rest.
It really is. Baits it knowing he'll get the response, then goes puritanical, aiming to get a response. Boring
Yep, they're playing the site like a piano.
On please where do you guys get off on playing sleuths
Amateurs at best.
I was taking premptative action as it was clear there was only a matter of time before people started making crude comments in relation to the W word! It's even more distasteful using Young boys but it was always going to happen in people's attempt at humour.
I hoped people would take opportunity to get out of system before the biggest European match comes along !
Your vidid imaginations run far too wild and quite frankly your energy should be channeled on football discussion not snide and speculative accusations thank you very much!
Good Day sirs!
That's a lot of words to say you did exactly we said you'd done. I'm torn as to whether you're tedious AI or a tedious troll, but there's a common theme.
I don't really want to play your games but Risso and Ads you're now viewed to me as bumbling detectives going after the wrong guy and making up leads!
If you insist on such silly behaviour of this repeated AI and Troll nonsense that you insist on name calling at me despite moderators reminding you not to then you really are a right pair-and will be referred to as Inspector clueless and Detective Bumbles!
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According to the these people, we have already earned almost 19m EURO in prize money;
https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/ (https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/)
We earned 10.4m EURO for our Conference League campaign last season.
We have also already earned points for the co-efficient, meaning we now have a co-efficient above the Premier League one we've been assigned previously.
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Ads and Risso really bungled the Letby investigation and now she’s locked up for life .
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Ads and Risso really bungled the Letby investigation and now she’s locked up for life .
Hahaha!
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Too far
Is there no decency left!
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I bet you're wankng furiously at all the innuendo.
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Ultimately, decency is possible but depends on intentional design and active participation in maintaining it.
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We're all wankers aren't we?
.wankfest party
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https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/ (https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/)
We have also already earned points for the co-efficient, meaning we now have a co-efficient above the Premier League one we've been assigned previously.
Not sure that's correct. From that link, Villa have:
20/21 - Nil
21/22 - Nil
22/23 - Nil
23/24 - 17.000
24/25 - 6.000 (for qualifying for league stage of Champions League)
TOTAL - 23.000
That puts us 73rd in the rankings, just behind Leicester on 23.000, behind Spurs on 41.000 and way behind West Ham on 69.000
The base ranking for England is 17.146 that no English team can fall below.
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I've never understood these. Will this increase with each win the league stage and increase again if we get out the league stage?
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Is 23 not above 17 in UEFA maths? :P
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I've never understood these. Will this increase with each win the league stage and increase again if we get out the league stage?
Yes, you build points as you win games and progress through the stages and they're added togetheras the current season and the previous 4 to give an overall score. The points awards and current scores haven't been updated for this years Champions League yet but with the new format it's clearly gonig to see some changes. The obvious change is that you used to get 4 points for reaching the group and it's increased to 6 now to reflect the change in qualifying rounds.
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Is 23 not above 17 in UEFA maths? :P
Ohhh haha, yes sorry i misunderstood what you were saying.
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I've never understood these. Will this increase with each win the league stage and increase again if we get out the league stage?
Yes, you build points as you win games and progress through the stages and they're added togetheras the current season and the previous 4 to give an overall score. The points awards and current scores haven't been updated for this years Champions League yet but with the new format it's clearly gonig to see some changes. The obvious change is that you used to get 4 points for reaching the group and it's increased to 6 now to reflect the change in qualifying rounds.
Although now pots don't matter too much, the only thing a higher co-efficient works for is the 5th place spot combined with the rest of the PL representatives. You could even argue it is now a detriment to be higher up as there are a lot more teams you could be drawn against where lower down and it is almost known.
Edit: I think it is used as a tiebreaker in the table if several other criteria doesn't split it first but that would be very slim.
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Was that the 1-1 where Merse scored? It was freezing cold, it might even have snowed. Anyway, the stadium has been completely rebuilt since then. It even has a roof now.
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
It’s part of oir 150th anniversary and was the greatest night in our history. No better time to celebrate this again due the game being against the team we beat.
After being ignored for years by Ellis these heroes can’t be seen enough at Villa Park as far as I’m concerned.
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19
Thanks for the link.
I have just read this and forwarded it to the scamline alert as it is obviously a way to soften up fans to pay more.
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
It’s part of oir 150th anniversary and was the greatest night in our history. No better time to celebrate this again due the game being against the team we beat.
After being ignored for years by Ellis these heroes can’t be seen enough at Villa Park as far as I’m concerned.
I'm with Paul.S on this!
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
It’s part of oir 150th anniversary and was the greatest night in our history. No better time to celebrate this again due the game being against the team we beat.
After being ignored for years by Ellis these heroes can’t be seen enough at Villa Park as far as I’m concerned.
I'm with Paul.S on this!
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I think this is a rare misstep by Dog, and I think most things are tin pot!
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Well, I must admit to being a little bit hurt that my status as the forum's de facto correct poster has come under such scrutiny!
Hang your heads in shame!
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Has anyone used livefootballtickets.com before? Would the tickets be valid?
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The issue I've had with live football tickets is that they often don't bother putting air holes in the packaging and by the time they get to me, they're dead.
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
It’s part of oir 150th anniversary and was the greatest night in our history. No better time to celebrate this again due the game being against the team we beat.
After being ignored for years by Ellis these heroes can’t be seen enough at Villa Park as far as I’m concerned.
I'm with Paul.S on this!
I think this is a rare misstep by Dog, and I think most things are tin pot!
I am with the Dog. It's small time.
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Just read the Heck thing about celebrating the european triumph against Bayern Munich... unbelievably tin pot.
Imagine if we went to Newcastle and they were using the game to celebrate beating us in the 1924 FA Cup final? We'd be proper taking the piss.
Awful idea.
It’s part of oir 150th anniversary and was the greatest night in our history. No better time to celebrate this again due the game being against the team we beat.
After being ignored for years by Ellis these heroes can’t be seen enough at Villa Park as far as I’m concerned.
I'm with Paul.S on this!
I think this is a rare misstep by Dog, and I think most things are tin pot!
I'm with Big Dunc, Paul Schrader and the Cool Citrus on this. Given we have Bayern in our first home EC/CL game for 40+years, it would be daft not to use that game if a celebration of our greatest triumph was planned.
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I don't have an opinion on it except, as a firm believer in the gods of football jinx, it looks to me to be an invitation for a 0-5 battering.
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I don't have an opinion on it except, as a firm believer in the gods of football jinx, it looks to me to be an invitation for a 0-5 battering.
This is one of those posts where a 'thumbs-up-in-agreement' button would be useful.
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19
Well, all good stuff and - yes - there is a strong commercial driver behind much of what is listed. However, there are clearly plans to make the 150th anniversary the High Point it should be.
Who is the subject of the proposed statue behind the North Stand? - Ron S?
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19
Well, all good stuff and - yes - there is a strong commercial driver behind much of what is listed. However, there are clearly plans to make the 150th anniversary the High Point it should be.
Who is the subject of the proposed statue behind the North Stand? - Ron S?
It's a sculpt of himself, made out of season ticket holders melted down seats. 😉
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19 (https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19)
Well, all good stuff and - yes - there is a strong commercial driver behind much of what is listed. However, there are clearly plans to make the 150th anniversary the High Point it should be.
Who is the subject of the proposed statue behind the North Stand? - Ron S?
It's a sculpt of himself, made out of season ticket holders melted down seats. 😉
;D ;D ;D
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Can someone post a link to this Heck statement.
Please.
Here you go
https://x.com/chrisheck76/status/1834338554433946009?t=aDMunF7_Aty0H8IONBICHw&s=19
Well, all good stuff and - yes - there is a strong commercial driver behind much of what is listed. However, there are clearly plans to make the 150th anniversary the High Point it should be.
Who is the subject of the proposed statue behind the North Stand? - Ron S?
It's a sculpt of himself, made out of season ticket holders melted down seats. 😉
Entitled small man syndrome.
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Well thats a confidence booster for young boys
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And old men like me.
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It's even more distasteful using Young boys
Speak for yourself Ducky.
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Well thats a confidence booster for young boys
Yesterday's result:
Swiss Cup - second round
Vevey Sports 2-4 Young Boys.
Vevey Sports play in the 3rd tier of Swiss football.
The YB captain Loris Benito played his first game after 7 months out with an ACL, and keeper was back after being put with a shoulder injury. But they lost their 6'2" Senegalese defensive midfielder Cheikh Niasse to a pretty poor tackle - he's doubtful for Tuesday's game.
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We'll be playing on a plastic pitch - something called Polytan LigaTurf RS Pro CoolPlus - whatever that is.
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Anybody have a plan where to go for a pint before kick off?
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A bar?
In seriousness though, Everton fans did this guide in 2015 and should still be relevant for the general areas if specific named places have closed.
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/everton-fans-guide-to-bern/
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Anybody have a plan where to go for a pint before kick off?
Probably the bar up the road from my house for a couple.
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I asked a friend who lives in Bern and they said this place is new and close to the station https://mccarthysirishpub.ch/bern/ I also used to go here when I lived in Bern https://www.cafedespyrenees.ch/ it’s on the Kornhaus square which is convenient for trams to the ground
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I asked a friend who lives in Bern and they said this place is new and close to the station https://mccarthysirishpub.ch/bern/ I also used to go here when I lived in Bern https://www.cafedespyrenees.ch/ it’s on the Kornhaus square which is convenient for trams to the ground
It sounds like we should asking you rather than vice versa.
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Well it’s been a while since I lived in Bern so I’m not 100% anymore. The old tram depot used to be really good, they have a microbrewery and serve food. I never really liked the Mr Pickwick pub but. I’m really looking forward to the match, it’s been much too long for me!
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I asked a friend who lives in Bern and they said this place is new and close to the station https://mccarthysirishpub.ch/bern/ I also used to go here when I lived in Bern https://www.cafedespyrenees.ch/ it’s on the Kornhaus square which is convenient for trams to the ground
I'm not going so feel free to ignore me completely, but Irish (and English) style pubs are the very last place I'd be headed on a visit to a city I'd never been to before.
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It depends if you want to drink and sing or explore a bit I guess. I'd be in the 'look around and enjoy the place' camp, some though will want to do the full 'Villa on tour' stuff.
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I'd find it a bit ironic going to the Café des Pyrénées in Switzerland.
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I asked a friend who lives in Bern and they said this place is new and close to the station https://mccarthysirishpub.ch/bern/ I also used to go here when I lived in Bern https://www.cafedespyrenees.ch/ it’s on the Kornhaus square which is convenient for trams to the ground
I'm not going so feel free to ignore me completely, but Irish (and English) style pubs are the very last place I'd be headed on a visit to a city I'd never been to before.
Same, I just don’t get it.
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£7.80 a pint versus £9.50 in other places is one of the many reasons you may wish to share in the atmosphere and camaraderie of an away game in an Irish pub in Bern.
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Ive never been Switzerland but ive heard its stupidly expensive
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A half litre of lager at a local boozer is around 8 francs so £6-£7.
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Not too bad being as I was charged close to that for a pint the other week over here.
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I asked a friend who lives in Bern and they said this place is new and close to the station https://mccarthysirishpub.ch/bern/ I also used to go here when I lived in Bern https://www.cafedespyrenees.ch/ it’s on the Kornhaus square which is convenient for trams to the ground
It sounds like we should asking you rather than vice versa.
Yes indeed. So Andy I take it it's tram number 9 from station or many other places to the Wankdorf centre?
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Yup, that’s the best one. I goes via Kornhausplatz too and there are plenty of bars and restaurants there. The alternative is to get a train from the station
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Also, if you take tram 9 you can stop off at Breitenreinplatz. There are a few places there such as https://barbiere-bern.ch/ontap/ a bit more expensive but a great selection of locally brewed beers. Probably a good place to go post match as well. Let me know where you’re headed!
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Cheers. I am arriving at around 14:00 local time and after dumping my bag in the hotel intend to walk around the central area framed by the river. So what's to see there? And can I pay by tapping my debit card on the Tram?
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Was due to fly early this morning from Heathrow after meeting 3 other Bournemouth Lions. Unfortunately got sick after driving back from the Everton game and reluctantly decided I couldn't face the 4 and half hour drive to meet them. Gutted, and my mood not helped by the news of Gary Shaw. Hopefully Villa can do the business tomorrow..
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/aston-villa-champions-league-unai-emery-b2612528.html
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A question per team.
I got 55%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87g7ye3zlqo
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I'd find it a bit ironic going to the Café des Pyrénées in Switzerland.
Sounds like Cultural Appropriation.
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A question per team.
I got 55%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87g7ye3zlqo
I got 75% and a few stupid questions wrong (not the Villa one!)
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72%
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A question per team.
I got 55%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87g7ye3zlqo
I got 63%
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A question per team.
I got 55%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87g7ye3zlqo
78%. Not good, should do better.
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110%
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72% and got the Young Boys one wrong!
Struggled with the ‘how many games have x played’
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Not sure where this should go but this seems as good a place as any:
"Billy Connolly, blisters and Bayern: how Aston Villa won the 1982 European Cup":
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/17/how-aston-villa-won-the-1982-european-cup-bayern-munich-football
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Most European appearances below. With 8 games guaranteed maybe worth revisiting this at the end of the campaign.
30 apps - Cowans
28 apps - Mortimer
26 apps - Barry, Wright
21 apps - McNaught, Rimmer, Staunton, Withe
19 apps - Bremner, Evans, Hendrie, Morley, Spink, Taylor
17 apps - Ehiogu, Williams
16 apps - Shaw
15 apps - Southgate
14 apps - Gibson, Luiz, McGinn, Stone, Vassell
13 apps - Bailey, Boateng, Cash, Delaney, Draper
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110%
Top job unless Tim comes up with 130%.
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Most European appearances below. With 8 games guaranteed maybe worth revisiting this at the end of the campaign.
30 apps - Cowans
28 apps - Mortimer
26 apps - Barry, Wright
21 apps - McNaught, Rimmer, Staunton, Withe
19 apps - Bremner, Evans, Hendrie, Morley, Spink, Taylor
17 apps - Ehiogu, Williams
16 apps - Shaw
15 apps - Southgate
14 apps - Gibson, Luiz, McGinn, Stone, Vassell
13 apps - Bailey, Boateng, Cash, Delaney, Draper
Well you'd imagine McGinn being 5th, and if we have a really, really good run he could be 3rd....
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Just walking through the old town is a joy to be honest. Cross the river by the bear enclosure and have a pint in the old tram depot. You can get tram tickets from the machines at the stops, you can’t buy once you’re on the tram. There’s also a viewing point behind the parliament building which you can’t miss and has great views https://altestramdepot.ch/en/Info/Restaurant
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A question per team.
I got 55%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87g7ye3zlqo
Same here, 55%.
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72% and got the Young Boys one wrong!
Struggled with the ‘how many games have x played’
77%. I could have sworn I answered the Young Boys one right and it said it was wrong.
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Worked for me when I chose the correct country, it was more the question like how many games did Sturm Graz win last season that I was getting the wrong answers on.
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I picked the wrong country first but had changed it to the correct one before I clicked on choose. Oh well, a win tonight and all this will be a distant memory
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Not sure where this should go but this seems as good a place as any:
"Billy Connolly, blisters and Bayern: how Aston Villa won the 1982 European Cup":
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/17/how-aston-villa-won-the-1982-european-cup-bayern-munich-football
I was just about to post that, it would have been here as well!
It's a good read.
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I only got 44% - Amazed it was that many tbh but I think about 3 questions had a Villa connection so that helped.
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Just watched the Youri Tielemans press Q&A. He's impressive.
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58%
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I only got 44% - Amazed it was that many tbh but I think about 3 questions had a Villa connection so that helped.
But you being a youngun it’s quite good.🙂
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Man Utd playing to home tonight against Barnsley in the League Cup. We're in the Champions League. It's a bit strange but marvellous.
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It's a tad better than being below Preston, Reading, Cardiff etc like we were not too long ago
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Man Utd playing to home tonight against Barnsley in the League Cup. We're in the Champions League. It's a bit strange but marvellous.
Every glory hunting twat I know / work with will probably be oblivious to this fixture. Wankers
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Ain't payback a bitch?
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Top of the league again...
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Wiah we were playing olympiakos. I really do think we would destroy them if we played them now
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Bayern Munich winning 8-2.
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Zagreb scoring twice seemed to annoy them.
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Bayern Munich winning 8-2.
Might be better that we're playing them at home. Can't see this one ending 1-0.
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Bayern 9-2 Zagreb.
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So far England and Germany will be topping the coefficients for fifth place.
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9. Only 9. Harry Kane scored a hat-trick of penalties too… just off a change.
They’ll be buzzing for the game. As fans though, we’re going to have a massive role in creating an amazing atmosphere and intimidating them.
I believe.
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With the league now taking shape, Villa v Bayern is a 6 pointer.
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I don't sweat those chumps, they've never scored against us let alone won.
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Its written in the stars
Villa 5-5 munich
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With the league now taking shape, Villa v Bayern is a 6 pointer.
It's a mouthwatering top of the table clash. No wonder it sold out so quickly.
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A couple of our opponents
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I see no reason we can't get 14-15 points here, which should get us top 8.
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I see no reason we can't get 14-15 points here, which should get us top 8.
As I posted a few weeks ago a maths nerd modelled it out and had it as 17 to get into the top 8 and 8 to get into the playoff. They'd done it based entirely on the design of the draw (with each team playing 2 from each pot) rather than any weighting on the quality of the teams but I think it looked fair. I can't remember where I saw it though and it was some random blog that I can't seem to find now.
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TBH, I had similar figures and I'm not a maths nerd. Just quick working of averages points to get second and third last season and added on 2 for the extra games.
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
10 points away and 7-8 at home might just be enough for top 8.
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but we're well capable of getting something from all our matches. We know all about Kane and Olise at Bayern, and Emery is a much better coach than Kompany. We proved last season with the effortless dismantling of Man City at home that on our day, we're more than a match for anybody.
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The next game vs versus the Belgian Pulis and Aaron Danks will tell us a lot. Win that or even a solid point and we can start to really think about automatic qualification vs knockout. The rest of the games shouldn’t be as hard although Juve certainly won’t be easy.
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but we're well capable of getting something from all our matches. We know all about Kane and Olise at Bayern, and Emery is a much better coach than Kompany. We proved last season with the effortless dismantling of Man City at home that on our day, we're more than a match for anybody.
100% agree. We should fear nobody.
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Our win last night meant we flew up the UEFA rankings to a mighty 59th place.
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Might have been mentioned already but this game is live on Virgin Media 2 in Ireland .
With Brian Kerr and Dicky Dunne critiquing the Villa, heaven save us...
Liked how they had us top of the CL table before the game (and Arsenal in 30th) with Damian Delaney tipping us for top 8.
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but is Illing-Jnr able to play against us? Or is it like the Premier league and you can't play against your parent club?
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If we can beat Bologna and Celtic, we're probably into the Knockout Round. 9 points should be enough.
I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but is Illing-Jnr able to play against us? Or is it like the Premier league and you can't play against your parent club?
I think he can but they may have agreement in place to avoid such a thing between the clubs.
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I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but is Illing-Jnr able to play against us? Or is it like the Premier league and you can't play against your parent club?
I think he can but they may have agreement in place to avoid such a thing between the clubs.
He can play, but he'll be fined two weeks wages if he celebrates after scoring against us.
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I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but is Illing-Jnr able to play against us? Or is it like the Premier league and you can't play against your parent club?
I think he can but they may have agreement in place to avoid such a thing between the clubs.
Yep, Coutinho was playing against Barca when on loan from them. So it would depend on the loan agreement.
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Bologna, Celtic and Brugge play tonight. Salzburg tomorrow.
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Bologna, Celtic and Brugge play tonight. Salzburg tomorrow.
What have Salzburg got to do with it?
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Iling Junior will be able to play against us. It's quite common on the continent for loan players to play against their parent club. And I think it's the right way to do it. I'm not a fan of the Premier League rule
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They're another Red Bull team, I assume he's mixed them up with Leipzig, who play away to Atlético Madrid tomorrow.
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Bologna, Celtic and Brugge play tonight. Salzburg tomorrow.
What have Salzburg got to do with it?
It’s just an idle vice, idle vice ……..
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Got the wrong Red Bull. Leipzig play tomorrow.
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Bologna, Celtic and Brugge play tonight. Salzburg tomorrow.
What have Salzburg got to do with it?
It’s just an idle vice, idle vice ……..
lol made me smile- thanks
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Bologna dont look that great. Thats one of the games we need to be aiming to win
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Bologna dont look that great. Thats one of the games we need to be aiming to win
It would be quite a surprise if they did look any good really - their manager was the reason they did so well last season, they've lost him, their best striker and defender have both been sold and their best midfielder and captain is out injured for the rest of the year.
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They're another Red Bull team, I assume he's mixed them up with Leipzig, who play away to Atlético Madrid tomorrow.
i think we can do Max Verstappen no problem.
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Inter are a lovely side on the ball and just as good without it.
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Bologna dont look that great. Thats one of the games we need to be aiming to win
It would be quite a surprise if they did look any good really - their manager was the reason they did so well last season, they've lost him, their best striker and defender have both been sold and their best midfielder and captain is out injured for the rest of the year.
Out of all the teams they are one of the least i know about. Them and monaco. Hopefully we will have too much for them at home
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Can’t name many Bologna players, but Lewis Ferguson had a great season there last year, scored plenty and is the captain.
The manager sounds like someone from Pro Evolution before they got the naming rights! Or Harry Enfield and chums.
“Vincenzo Italiano”
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I think we'll beat both Bologna and Brugge and qualify with that, Bayern is our only tricky tie I'd say. We could be as good as through by the time Juventus rock up and that should be a cracker. We are dynamite away from home atm and this should see us over the line with a game to spare the way we are going. UTV
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I like this new format and great looking at the early table already.
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I like this new format and great looking at the early table already.
Yeah i have to agree. I was sceptical at first but i like it. What i like is no one gets a advantage in group stage as you play 2 teams in each pot one home and one away.
It certainly helps teams like us over the old format
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I like this new format and great looking at the early table already.
Same here, it means you've more of an interest in all the games rather than just your own group.
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It's an awful format . I'm only interested because we are involved . The tournament only gets good as a neutral from QF onwards .
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Bologna dont look that great. Thats one of the games we need to be aiming to win
It would be quite a surprise if they did look any good really - their manager was the reason they did so well last season, they've lost him, their best striker and defender have both been sold and their best midfielder and captain is out injured for the rest of the year.
Out of all the teams they are one of the least i know about. Them and monaco. Hopefully we will have too much for them at home
Obviously good for us playing them but it's a pity to hear that about Bologna as a fellow relatively unfashionable club getting into modern version of CL for first time.
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It's an awful format . I'm only interested because we are involved . The tournament only gets good as a neutral from QF onwards .
Last 16 now.
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
Wycombe will get moved and its like that still on a number of sites including the BBC when i looked earlier.
Anyone know how we got on against Wycombe last night?
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Anyone know how we got on against Wycombe last night?
Drew, replay is next week.
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Thanks mate.
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Watching the highlights tonight, I'm surprised to see how open so many teams are. Makes me feel weirdly confident
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The Opta supercomputer believes 16 points from a possible 24 - so five wins and a draw from eight matches, or other combinations - would almost certainly be enough to finish in the top eight, which guarantees a last 16 spot in the New Year.
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Fuck me, what a mistake from the Girona keeper to gift PSG a last minute winner.
From the highlights Juve looked good and created plenty of chances so that will be a tough game.
Goals of the round so far, Sporting’s second, Bratislava’s in Glasgow and Juventus’ first goal.
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Fuck me, what a mistake from the Girona keeper to gift PSG a last minute winner.
From the highlights Juve looked good and created plenty of chances so that will be a tough game.
Goals of the round so far, Sporting’s second, Bratislava’s in Glasgow and Juventus’ first goal.
And Onana's
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Double check the fixtures on prAVda for September 17th.
1745 Young Boys A ECL
1945 Wycombe A Carabao Cup
Wycombe will get moved and its like that still on a number of sites including the BBC when i looked earlier.
Anyone know how we got on against Wycombe last night?
Check out the Wycombe thread thread.
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Iling Junior will be able to play against us. It's quite common on the continent for loan players to play against their parent club. And I think it's the right way to do it. I'm not a fan of the Premier League rule
Didn't Coutinho play, and score, against Barcelona for Bayern when he was on loan there in that 8-2 game?
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Fuck me, what a mistake from the Girona keeper to gift PSG a last minute winner.
From the highlights Juve looked good and created plenty of chances so that will be a tough game.
Goals of the round so far, Sporting’s second, Bratislava’s in Glasgow and Juventus’ first goal.
And Onana's
Andre’s was a decent strike but preferred the other, I missed out Guerreiro’s for Bayern as well.
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Fuck me, what a mistake from the Girona keeper to gift PSG a last minute winner.
From the highlights Juve looked good and created plenty of chances so that will be a tough game.
Goals of the round so far, Sporting’s second, Bratislava’s in Glasgow and Juventus’ first goal.
And Onana's
Andre’s was a decent strike but preferred the other, I missed out Guerreiro’s for Bayern as well.
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I looked at the stats bit of the CL site (because I like stats 😃) and I’m a bit puzzled by the ‘tackles’ and ‘distance covered’ elements. Could anybody explain:
* How Villa only won 2 tackles in the match? I thought we’d done better than that! .
* Is the ‘29: ball recovered’ the number of times we got it back off them, in which case you see why I’m confused - they can’t all have been interceptions?
And
*Apparently we covered 112.85 kilometres. Is that good?
*and why is that important? Cheers! 👍
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^^ The distance covered was less than them, which is good, because we run less than the opposition in most games, hopefully meaning we’ll be fitter than most towards the end of the season.
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Understand that, great so far, thanks Percy.
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MOTD highlights are on BBC2 tonight, 11.05pm. In case anyone thought there weren't any as it's not on BBC1.
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Thanks, PWS.
Raya just saved a penalty and the rebound header. He’s a bit good!
But not the World Number One…
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Reminded me of the double save against us where he saved Ollie’s header seemingly into an open net
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Boring, boring Arsenil.
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Reminded me of the double save against us where he saved Ollie’s header seemingly into an open net
It was an excellent double save but are we going to ignore the fact that he was well off his line when the pen was taken.
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It was an excellent double save but are we going to ignore the fact that he was well off his line when the pen was taken.
I thought that at the time, but didn't see a replay from the side.
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We sit in 4th. Im liking this new format. Its alot more competitive and better as you get more variety of different games. Better than playing same side home and away
Just curious how play off works at that stage. If you can draw anyone or if its top 8 in one pot and bottom 8 in another
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In the Round of 24, 9th-16th placed teams play 17th-24th placed teams with 9th-16th placed teams seeded and having home advantage in second leg.
In the Round of 16, 1st-8th placed teams play winners of Round of 24 with 1st-8th placed teams seeded and having home advantage in second leg.
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After the first match day it’s feeling like we need to take the majority of our points from the first 4 games. Both Bologna and Bruges are beatable and anything we get from Bayern is a bonus. I think Juve, Leipzig and Monaco will be difficult and whilst we should beat Celtic it could be tight. That said I reckon we’ll get about 13-15 points and be at the top end of the play off spots.
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Obviously it won't stay that way, but as it stands you could have Man City vs Real Madrid in the playoffs to get to the last 16.
It's an interesting format. A "big" club could lose quite a few games, finish 16-24th, and play a less good team in the playoffs. You could nearly play a B squad once you'd guaranteed a top 24 finish, and then bring the A squad back in for the play offs.
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But if you'd guaranteed top 24 early, surely you'd take your ability to win Champions League games and try to win a couple more to get top 8?
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Two places behind a team from "The Dog and Duck". Emery out!
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Three places really, I'm assuming we have a worse co-efficient than Dortmund so should be below them.
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
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We played three home games against pot one teams last season, and won two and drew one. Let them worry about us.
Edit: scratch this, Arsenal are pot two. Four points out of six, then.
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
Plus they wear "beige".
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
Plus they wear "beige".
Also, they'll shit their pants when they see it's us again.
A bit like we did when we had to play those ****** Rapid Vienna again.
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Reminded me of the double save against us where he saved Ollie’s header seemingly into an open net
That was a single save. The first shot hit the bar.
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The pen was shit and the header was almost straight down the middle. Shite talk.
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In the Round of 24, 9th-16th placed teams play 17th-24th placed teams with 9th-16th placed teams seeded and having home advantage in second leg.
In the Round of 16, 1st-8th placed teams play winners of Round of 24 with 1st-8th placed teams seeded and having home advantage in second leg.
Thanks for clearing that up. I didnt know if there was any advantage of finishing higher in play offs. Really we want second leg at home as we cab beat most teams at VP on our day so really we want to be finishing in top 16
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
It's the KAne and Olise v our current defensive set up which worries me. Sure we can score a couple against them, its what they could do in return
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
It's the KAne and Olise v our current defensive set up which worries me. Sure we can score a couple against them, its what they could do in return
Plus Musiala - probably one of the five best dribblers in Europe at the minute.
They're a brilliant side, and it will be a really tough game - but we can (and do) beat even the best sides when we turn up and play well.
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Honestly, are people that worried about Bayern? I get that they're something of a European powerhouse, but:
- It's Emery v Kompany
- We know all about Kane and Olise
- Gnabry hasn't been setting the world alight in recent seasons
- I'd rather have Tielemans and Onana than Kimmich and Pavlovic
- Eric Dier
It's the KAne and Olise v our current defensive set up which worries me. Sure we can score a couple against them, its what they could do in return
Plus Musiala - probably one of the five best dribblers in Europe at the minute.
They're a brilliant side, and it will be a really tough game - but we can (and do) beat even the best sides when we turn up and play well.
I've got Rogers and Ramsey, who are the other 2 players you reckon are better than him at dribbling?
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Had a look 22nd oct we are at home to bologna and the blosers are at home to bolton. That should be a fun evening
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Had a look 22nd oct we are at home to bologna and the blosers are at home to bolton. That should be a fun evening
Local plod won't allow that, surely?
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I've got Rogers and Ramsey, who are the other 2 players you reckon are better than him at dribbling?
Bailey and Philogene.
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Had a look 22nd oct we are at home to bologna and the blosers are at home to bolton. That should be a fun evening
Local plod won't allow that, surely?
Thats what i was thinking. Surely they wont move a CL game over a league one game. They will have to move the blose game
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We've often played the same night as each other. It's the only chance their fans will ever have of heading to the Sty and seeing away fans in town for a CL game.
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I worry that as Kane remains England captain his diving antics will still be fallen for by officials.
These are no better than Man City in their pomp and we beat them thanks to the tactical genius of SUE
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Apparently 4 of the Pot 4 teams won their first game this week whereas none of the bottom seeded teams in last years competition won a match in round one.
I have to say I really like this format - much more interesting.
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Apparently 4 of the Pot 4 teams won their first game this week whereas none of the bottom seeded teams in last years competition won a match in round one.
I have to say I really like this format - much more interesting.
It's better because the 'League' part of the name actually means something now. The champions bit still doesn't but that boat left port a long a time ago.
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Had a look 22nd oct we are at home to bologna and the blosers are at home to bolton. That should be a fun evening
Local plod won't allow that, surely?
Thats what i was thinking. Surely they wont move a CL game over a league one game. They will have to move the blose game
Hopefully they inform the Hollywood fans so they don't have a wasted trip.
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I think the Champions League is organised to give an equal number of games on each night for each country, where possible. They won't move our game as they'd have to move either Man City or Liverpool (and if they do that they'll have to move another German and Austrian team for the same reason). In short, it won't happen.
However, if they were going to move the Blose game I imagine they would already have announced it by now.
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Apparently 4 of the Pot 4 teams won their first game this week whereas none of the bottom seeded teams in last years competition won a match in round one.
I have to say I really like this format - much more interesting.
I really like it too - but I do wonder how much that's because (a) we're in it and (b) it seems set up to benefit bigger, richer teams. Which in a league including Sturm Graz, Slovan Bratislava, Young Boys, Brest, Brugge etc, we definitely are.
The change has definitely benefitted us, and I'm far more confident that we're going through than I would have been with six matches against one each from Pot A, B and C. So I like it, but I'm not sure it's from a position of objectivity.
After one round of matches, I reckon about eight of the bottom thirteen clubs are ones you'd probably expect to stay there for the whole competition and unless something odd happens it would be pretty strange to see any of the bigger clubs not make it to the next round. So it's great for the likes of us, but it's easy to see why it might be far more tedious for people who aren't us.
And it's definitely done with helping the bigger, richer clubs in mind. Which until recently, we were obviously Not In Favour Of.
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Yes I think you're right Dave, it's definitely an example of Everything That's Bad In Football being more than acceptable because we're in it. But ignoring the money aspect for a minute, I do actually like the format, as it really should mean that most matches are still interesting going into the last couple of games.
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It's a better format. More chance of 'lesser' teams making progress, or just winning a game or two. I'll be disappointed if we don't at least make the play-offs, if we were still in the old format and in a group like Newcastle had last season i'd be expecting us to finish bottom if being realistic.
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But ignoring the money aspect for a minute, I do actually like the format, as it really should mean that most matches are still interesting going into the last couple of games.
I completely agree - but I think even that's appealing from the angle of "will Villa finish ninth or thirteenth, oh look, Benfica have equalised against Leipzig so now they go ahead of us and we need Lille to get another against Arsenal.." Really entertaining if you've got skin in the game.
I think most people watching won't give a toss what order most of the teams finish in, it'll just be "well those 24 are through and those 12 aren't". Even with the top eight / middle sixteen thing. Teams are either through or they're not.
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Better format for me. Removes the group of death scenario and makes things more interesting in general as stated.Gives everyone the chance to accumulate a few points at least. The scrabble for home advantage for the knock out games keeps it very Interesting come the new year.
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I like the format. I still don’t really get why they bothered with the pots. There are some top pot 1 sides with far more challenging 8 games than some of the teams in pot 3 or 4. I look at Celtic for example and think they got a better draw than Liverpool. But it’s a more interesting set up. I expect after week 3 or 4 the table start to resemble how we expect it to with the better sides climbing to the top. I hope that we can finish top 8, but I certainly expect us to be in the second group at the very least and make it through to the last 16.
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The new format, it's basically a European League through the back door isn't it?
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The new format, it's basically a European League through the back door isn't it?
It’s certainly been created to appease the Super League protagonists. The domestic structure stays the same and isn’t threatened and there is a concurrent European league system now in place.
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We've often played the same night as each other. It's the only chance their fans will ever have of heading to the Sty and seeing away home fans in town for a CL game.
ftfy
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When was the last time us and SHA both played at home on the same night? Can't think of any times in the last ten years off the top of my head.
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The format seems to give everyone more of a chance of progressing, but that also means the richer sides can afford to lose a couple knowing they can progress more easily. The games are all one-offs too, rather than a team fearing another over two games.
The goal difference thing is interesting too, in that it potentially matters more, and because of the myriad of permutations, it's harder for a team to work out what's needed.
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I like the format. I still don’t really get why they bothered with the pots.
Because they still wanted some seeding for the top teams to get through and not have someone like Young Boys getting through directly because they only played other pot 4 members where Real Madrid get Citeh, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Liverpool, etc.
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Reminded me of the double save against us where he saved Ollie’s header seemingly into an open net
It was an excellent double save but are we going to ignore the fact that he was well off his line when the pen was taken.
Not sure where you got that from. His foot is still on the line when the ball is struck.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5kyPzW/Ars-pen.png) (https://ibb.co/b5kyPzW)
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Well looking at the photo, it should have been retaken for encroachment by an Arsenal player top right.
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Reminded me of the double save against us where he saved Ollie’s header seemingly into an open net
It was an excellent double save but are we going to ignore the fact that he was well off his line when the pen was taken.
Not sure where you got that from. His foot is still on the line when the ball is struck.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5kyPzW/Ars-pen.png) (https://ibb.co/b5kyPzW)
Good spot. I'll take it back.
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
Interesting point. Chucking Monaco for PSR purposes.
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
I don't know how the draw works. If you finish 8th, is your next knockout game against one of the teams that comes through from the play-offs?
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Or Celtic even
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
I don't know how the draw works. If you finish 8th, is your next knockout game against one of the teams that comes through from the play-offs?
Yes.
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
Interesting point. Chucking Monaco for PSR purposes.
We get €2.1m for a win, so we're better off beating teams when we can rather than chucking games. In any case, I'd rather have two fewer games.
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That's just prize money. What about sponsorship, advertising, TV rights, ticket sales. Is it better to have 2 qualifying games or go straight through to the knockout stages?
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For me it's a no-brainer, straight through to the knockout stages. Others may feel differently.
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If the club are making £1.5m per game. It will be better to finish 9th rather than 8th.
But if we lose that extra play off game then its same really as qualifying in 8th. Id rather not risk it and finish 8th of given choice
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No chance we'd throw a game against Celtic anyway.
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No chance we'd throw a game against Celtic anyway.
Exactly max. Esp at home. Our fans won't have it
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No chance we'd throw a game against Celtic anyway.
Exactly max. Esp at home. Our fans won't have it
I'm looking forward to Celtic probably more than our other home ties. The fact that both sides won their opening games makes the possibility of getting 9/10 points achievable. It could be one of those games that you bore the Grandchildren with ' I was there' stories.
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I'll be disappointed if we don't have 9/10 points by the time we play Celtic.
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I'll be disappointed if we don't have 9/10 points by the time we play Celtic.
Same here, I think we will
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You're miles better off finishing 8th to guarantee the funds for qualifying without the risk of the Play Offs.
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You're miles better off finishing 8th to guarantee the funds for qualifying without the risk of the Play Offs.
This 100%
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You're miles better off finishing 8th to guarantee the funds for qualifying without the risk of the Play Offs.
This 100%
I can not fathom why any one would think differently.
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This is FFP playing tricks with the mind. Just finish top 8.
Beat one of Bayern or Juve and it's on.
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I think Juventus is winnable.
Bayern will probably be too good for us.
Think Leipzig away will be very tough.
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I think Juventus is winnable.
Bayern will probably be too good for us.
Think Leipzig away will be very tough.
Juve is 50/50
Munich i would be suprised if we dont lose that. A point would be unbelievable for us.
Leipzig will be tough but griendly we did cause some problems and that was without our best players
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As this came out 10 hours ago, I'm guessing it's been posted somewhere else and I just missed it but here are the Bologna ticket details just in case:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/22/Bologna-ticket-details/
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As this came out 10 hours ago, I'm guessing it's been posted somewhere else and I just missed it but here are the Bologna ticket details just in case:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/22/Bologna-ticket-details/
I wonder if this means they'll actually be answering the phone next week?
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You get £1.7m for finishing top 8 and £0.9m for 9-16th.
The win bonus is league phase only, so you gain nothing extra for winning the playoff aside from any gate receipts, etc.
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As this came out 10 hours ago, I'm guessing it's been posted somewhere else and I just missed it but here are the Bologna ticket details just in case:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/22/Bologna-ticket-details/
We used to get emails but I guess they’ve now decided not to do that?
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I tried to phone the ticket office 7 times on Friday - at 10.01am on Friday , the message was that they would not answer the phone due to high demand, it is worse than trying to contact the Doctors on a Monday morning!
I have brought a ticket for the Bayern game, however as I do not own a mobile phone, and have therefore got a physical season ticket card for this season, how do I get into the ground (climb over the wall etc..), as far as I can tell you cannot print off the ticket on to paper as we did last season for the Conference league games? has anyone else who has a season ticket card contacted the club for an answer to this question?
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I tried to phone the ticket office 7 times on Friday - at 10.01am on Friday , the message was that they would not answer the phone due to high demand, it is worse than trying to contact the Doctors on a Monday morning!
I have brought a ticket for the Bayern game, however as I do not own a mobile phone, and have therefore got a physical season ticket card for this season, how do I get into the ground (climb over the wall etc..), as far as I can tell you cannot print off the ticket on to paper as we did last season for the Conference league games? has anyone else who has a season ticket card contacted the club for an answer to this question?
I have exactly the same problem. I was 29 in the queue and moved to 24 in 15 minutes could not wait that long for an answer. I called back later and got the too busy go away message.
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Performance-based prize money (37.5% of total)
Stage Prize Money (per club)
Winner €25m ($27.8m)
Runner-up €18.5m ($20.5m)
Semifinalists €15m ($16.6m)
Quarterfinalists €12.5m ($13.9)
Round of 16 €11m ($12.2)
Reaching knockout round playoff €1m ($1.1m)
League-phase wins €2.1m ($2.3m)
League-phase draws €700k ($777,883)
Additionally, teams will be paid a new league ranking bonus based on their final ranking in the league phase. The league ranking bonus is divided into 666 equal shares of initially valued at €275,000, with the team finishing 36th taking home that solitary share. The 35th team will take two shares and so on until the team finishing top is awarded 36 shares. The undistributed €700,000 from each drawn game will proportionately increase the value of the shares given to each position.
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I think that means if you finish 8th, you'll win £11m plus £275k more than the team that finishes 9th, who in turn win £1m for reaching the play-offs plus their £275k prize share thing and gate/sponsor money.
Therefore it's a no brainer?
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So if you reach the last 16 via the playoff you still receive the £11m plus the winnings from the extra match.
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I assume that the knockout money is one payment. So if you lose in the QF you get 12.5m. It doesn't accumulate.
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Wassall Villain - just phoned the ticket office - it seems that every home cup game if you don't have a mobile phone and use a plastic season ticket card - you can either phone the ticket office and they will send you a print at home ticket to your email address OR you can go into the ticket office before the game and ask them to print it for you.
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Wassall Villain - just phoned the ticket office - it seems that every home cup game if you don't have a mobile phone and use a plastic season ticket card - you can either phone the ticket office and they will send you a print at home ticket to your email address OR you can go into the ticket office before the game and ask them to print it for you.
Thanks Sid. I tried again this morning and got the too busy message. I had come to the conclusion that a T O visit on match day is the only way to resolve. They really should have pushed the tickets out with the print at home option given it was stated as an either or option on the purchase details.
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I tried to phone the ticket office 7 times on Friday - at 10.01am on Friday , the message was that they would not answer the phone due to high demand, it is worse than trying to contact the Doctors on a Monday morning!
I have brought a ticket for the Bayern game, however as I do not own a mobile phone, and have therefore got a physical season ticket card for this season, how do I get into the ground (climb over the wall etc..), as far as I can tell you cannot print off the ticket on to paper as we did last season for the Conference league games? has anyone else who has a season ticket card contacted the club for an answer to this question?
I have exactly the same problem. I was 29 in the queue and moved to 24 in 15 minutes could not wait that long for an answer. I called back later and got the too busy go away message.
I emailed them on 9th Sept after I purchased the Bayern ticket asking exactly that question. Still awaiting a response !
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basavfc - if you look at the bottom of page 178, you will see that I have managed to contact the ticket office and have now been told how to get a ticket for the game.
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basavfc - if you look at the bottom of page 178, you will see that I have managed to contact the ticket office and have now been told how to get a ticket for the game.
Ta mate
Phoning is a nightmare and so is going to the TO before a game
What is wrong with giving an option or recognising you use a card and automatically emailing one, therefore saving being number 32 in queue on phone or 178th in queue at TO on matchday FFS !
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I'm in the ticket scheme. Payment and ticket went through fine for Bayern.....
Received email yesterday saying that Bologne payment would be taken at 5pm yesterday. Still no payment taken, and just checked my account and the ticket scheme tick box is now unticked. WTF?!
Piss-up and brewery springs to mind!
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I'm in the ticket scheme. Payment and ticket went through fine for Bayern.....
Received email yesterday saying that Bologne payment would be taken at 5pm yesterday. Still no payment taken, and just checked my account and the ticket scheme tick box is now unticked. WTF?!
Piss-up and brewery springs to mind!
Have you clicked the line in the Ticket Schemes section and then clicked the Tickets button? It should show the status of your ticket there. Mine shows 'Reserved (with payment method)' or something, as I'm in the same boat as you.
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Ah yes - Just spotted that. But even so, if they say they're going to fleece me of £79 on a certain day at a certain time, then they should at the very least stand by their word! 😄
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Ah yes - Just spotted that. But even so, if they say they're going to fleece me of £79 on a certain day at a certain time, then they should at the very least stand by their word! 😄
At least they are telling you! My mate is getting the emails but I'm not. And his money has been taken out of his account, but I can still buy his ticket online!
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Got the"too busy to answer "message 3 times yesterday. Gave it a last go at 4.30 to be told I was 28th in the queue. Held on for about 20 minutes and suddenly bumped up to 2nd.When I finally spoke to them it was sorted straightaway and they immediately emailed me a printable ticket .They must have a list of people who have plastic season ticket cards.How hard would it be to programme a computer to send an email with a printable ticket automatically once the payment was taken?
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I'm the same as you, says "reserved". Guess they'll take payment today.
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It is showing active on my account re UEFA Champions League Scheme but nothing taken out of my account for Bologne.
I can't see anything regarding the domestic cups which I asked to be taken off last season.
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Sounds like the email was wrong and everybody in the Cup Scheme needs to hold fast.
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I'm in the same boat....nothing taken and nothing pending with my bank.
I'm sure it wouldn't be this worrisome if it wasn't a CL game.
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I'm in the same boat....nothing taken and nothing pending with my bank.
I'm sure it wouldn't be this worrisome if it wasn't a CL game.
You just need to chill a bit, he's busy sorting out the Coventry Road congestion before he gets round to processing all the CL payments.
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My cup scheme ones were just sitting on my login saying reserved. No payment has been taken. I’ve just physically gone in and unreserved them and paid.
No idea why they hadn’t taken the money straight away like last time.
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Bought our Bologna tickets yesterday. They don't appear in my available tickets to download.
Email says tickets will be distributed on Friday 18th October, so I'm assuming they will appear after that date.
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Fucking hell - we're playing Bayern Munich next week in the Champions League! That is quite exciting.
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Fucking hell - we're playing Bayern Munich next week in the Champions League! That is quite exciting.
I think it'll be even more exciting than last night's game, so something to really look forward to.
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Was just coming to post about that. So releasing tickets a few days before won’t cause any problems will it? (Having just spent 30mins on the phone to get them to reissue e-tickets as a previous one didn’t work !)
Re: “TICKETS FOR THIS MATCH WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO FANS FROM FRIDAY 18th OCTOBER”
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Fucking hell - we're playing Bayern Munich next week in the Champions League! That is quite exciting.
I think it'll be even more exciting than last night's game, so something to really look forward to.
It might be a close run thing, but I think you are right.
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Still not had the Bologna tickets deducted/sent.
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Still not had the Bologna tickets deducted/sent.
They took mine yesterday evening, but I haven't seen hide nor hair of a ticket.
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As someone said last night tickets not issued until 18 October.
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Just checked and it's in my list of tickets.
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Im in cyprus next week for game and usually we win European games when ive been there. 🙏
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Our game is on Virgin Media 2 in Ireland next week. That's 2 in a row.
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Our game is on Virgin Media 2 in Ireland next week. That's 2 in a row.
Good news. Probably wouldn't have been on if RTE weren't showing Liverpool v Bologna that night.
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I haven't looked at the future game clashes but I'd be hopeful of a few of our games getting on TV here. If there's a day us, Liverpool, and Celtic are all playing at the same time, we're screwed.
Edit - I've had a look, and our game against Bologna is on at the same time as Arsenal v Shaktar, and Real Madrid v Dortmund, so I wouldn't fancy our chances there.
And our Juventus game is on at the same time as the Celtic and Liverpool games, so that's probably not happening either.
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It has definitely been worth the £20 per month I pay Amazon Prime for the Discovery Sport package. Much better than adding it to my Sky package because I can cancel at any time. So much other sport on their too (if I had the time…)
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Phoned the club to get my Bologna ticket, was surprised to be told that tickets wont be available until 18th October, the Villa employee who I was talking to said that they were surprised at this as well.
As i have a physical season ticket card, i will have to get a paper ticket to print , it will be interesting phoning the club to get one on the Monday (I am on holiday the week before) OR I will be queuing on the night of the game at the Villa ticket office.
We don't make the basics (such as buying a ticket) easy for ourselves do we?
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It has definitely been worth the £20 per month I pay Amazon Prime for the Discovery Sport package. Much better than adding it to my Sky package because I can cancel at any time. So much other sport on their too (if I had the time…)
How did you get it for £20? I looked at their champions league coverage before the first game, and it was £30.99 a month?
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It has definitely been worth the £20 per month I pay Amazon Prime for the Discovery Sport package. Much better than adding it to my Sky package because I can cancel at any time. So much other sport on their too (if I had the time…)
How did you get it for £20? I looked at their champions league coverage before the first game, and it was £30.99 a month?
I got a deal about a year ago and it is still in place.
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The Athletic getting stuck in: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744104/2024/09/16/aston-villa-ticket-issues/
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I get doscovery+ included as an option with my ee mobile deal. I have to use the app on the TV or mobile etc but it works fine.
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Fucking hell - we're playing Bayern Munich next week in the Champions League! That is quite exciting.
Fucking hell, Bayern Munich are playing a famous old english football club, Aston Villa, next week. How lucky for their fans.
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I get doscovery+ included as an option with my ee mobile deal. I have to use the app on the TV or mobile etc but it works fine.
And you get Kevin Bacon doing the commentary.
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Barcelona have been banned from selling tickets for their Champions League away fixture against Red Star Belgrade in November after supporters were found guilty of racist behaviour.
Uefa fined the Spanish club 10,000 euros (£8,330) for supporters' racist behaviour during a 2-1 defeat against Monaco on 19 September.
The nature of the racist behaviour was not specified.
Barcelona were banned from selling away tickets to their supporters for one match in a Uefa competition after a Champions League quarter-final at Paris St-Germain last season, though the punishment was suspended for one year.
Three Barcelona supporters were arrested following the match against PSG for the use of racist language and for allegedly performing Nazi salutes.
Barca will be without away fans for their trip to Belgrade on 6 November.
Hansi Flick's side have won all seven of their La Liga matches this season and are top of the table.
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The Athletic getting stuck in: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744104/2024/09/16/aston-villa-ticket-issues/
Behind a paywall, can anyone sort it for us technophobes?
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The Athletic getting stuck in: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5744104/2024/09/16/aston-villa-ticket-issues/
Behind a paywall, can anyone sort it for us technophobes?
https://archive.ph/URADx
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Will we have a Bayern Munich thread going onto this weekend because only having Monday or Tuesday to discuss anything and everysing and read each others posts isn't justice to the actual biggest team faced in Europe since last time played Bayern Munich. And won the European Cup.
It's massive.
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Juventus 1983
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Will we have a Bayern Munich thread going onto this weekend because only having Monday or Tuesday to discuss anything and everysing and read each others posts isn't justice to the actual biggest team faced in Europe since last time played Bayern Munich
It's massive.
If you're that desperate, start one yourself instead of posting over and over again asking if there's going to be a Bayern Munich thread.
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And it will be like any other pre match thread that can be started by anyone on here and very likely iniated soon after we've done with Ipswich.
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(https://i.ibb.co/WFGXWCQ/IMG-4130.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WFGXWCQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/CzLNPL6/IMG-4131.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CzLNPL6)
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Will we have a Bayern Munich thread going onto this weekend because only having Monday or Tuesday to discuss anything and everysing and read each others posts isn't justice to the actual biggest team faced in Europe since last time played Bayern Munich. And won the European Cup.
It's massive.
As per accepted tradition of not having two pre match threads running concurrently next pre match thread will be up and running Sunday afternoon. Meanwhile we have a very important matter of the PL game against Ipswich.
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Will we have a Bayern Munich thread going onto this weekend because only having Monday or Tuesday to discuss anything and everysing and read each others posts isn't justice to the actual biggest team faced in Europe since last time played Bayern Munich. And won the European Cup.
It's massive.
If you want an early thread go here.
https://www.bayernforum.com/champions-league-f5/aston-villa-vs-bayern-munich-t60802.html
Not much yet as I guess most of them are thinking about Leverkusen tomorrow, but a few gems such as....
Re: [2024-10-02] Aston Villa vs Bayern Munich
Postby MUTU » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:43 pm
Can't wait to see us put a few goals past that massive dickhead called Emiliano Martínez.
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In 5 days time will be approaching half time Villa V Bayern Munich!
I hope those who are going can roar on to victory! However I am doubtful can stop them scoring. But think we can score so I forecast goals in first half.
For me they are going to be the best side faced this season
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For me they are going to be the best side faced this season
Half-right, it'll be Real Madrid in the final in Munich.
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Since the draw, Munich has been all I can think about. It's getting closer, and I'm counting the days. It is a dream that is reality to be in the in the Champions League, and what a treat to play Bayern Munich in the Champions League at Villa Park.
I'm so very excited! Just the occasion is wonderful for our club!
I do know that Emery will make sure we perform and compete.I would argue that our best performance this season was against Arsenal. Our one and only defeat. Our other matches at Villa Park haven't been at our best yet won!
I feel reassured to know El Maestro is capable of us getting something from the game even though I can see a few goals against and could lose.
Really, the fine margins in games like this, as against Arsenal, didn't take the chances, so ultimately lost..
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High tempo game and plenty of goals on Wednesday.....3-2 either way and both bets are on.....
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Will we have a Bayern Munich thread going onto this weekend because only having Monday or Tuesday to discuss anything and everysing and read each others posts isn't justice to the actual biggest team faced in Europe since last time played Bayern Munich. And won the European Cup.
It's massive.
Blimey. What do you think happens after you win the European Cup? A clue - you qualify for something. Can you guess what it is?
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Getting twatted by Penarol.
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Just realised Wednesday will be Emery's first match against his predecessor.
Edit: no it won't, it was Middlesbrough last season.
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Bayern Munich coach Vincent Kompany said it was "too early" to know the extent of Harry Kane's injury but he was hopeful the forward will be fit for Wednesday's Champions League clash at Aston Villa.
"I don't have the exact information but hopefully it's just a bit of pain and we'll get him back this week," said Kompany.
Speaking after the England captain was subbed off with four minutes left in Saturday's 1-1 home draw with Bayer Leverkusen, Kompany said he hoped Kane would make a swift return.
"Hopefully not," Kompany said when asked if Kane's injury was serious.
"I'm not a doctor and it's much too early. I know something happened, but I hope he's ready for Wednesday."
Kane went down clutching his foot after a collision with Leverkusen's Amine Adli.
The England captain has a history of ankle complaints but has only missed two matches for Bayern with injury since arriving in the summer of 2023.
Bayern sporting director Max Eberl said he was unsure about Kane's injury status, but added "when Harry leaves the field means something because he's pretty tough".
"(The incident) doesn't look good, but we hope he's made strong out of good English wood and nothing's broken."
(https://i.ibb.co/HYgLj47/635e4cf00dc735f934be92b0b1e204d3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HYgLj47)
Don't know who replaces him if he is out. Can't see them starting with a 35 year old Thomas Muller.
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Don't know who replaces him if he is out. Can't see them starting with a 35 year old Thomas Muller.
Wouldn't even be the first time we've faced one of our sponsors.
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Yeah, bloody James 32Red and that late equaliser he got for Everton in 1959.
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Sesko, Simons and Openda... Leipzig are going to be tough.
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Sesko, Simons and Openda... Leipzig are going to be tough.
Do the German media refer to them as S.O.S?
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Kane injured ?! This is a sign!
It's now only in 3 days time till the Bayern Munich match.
A thread must be put up later today after Ipswich!(Victory)
Have to do this justice it's massive!
And exciting!
Up The Villa!
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Kane injured ?! This is a sign!
It's now only in 3 days time till the Bayern Munich match.
A thread must be put up later today after Ipswich!(Victory)
Have to do this justice it's massive!
And exciting!
Up The Villa!
Do it now Footy. It’s only 3 days, 19 hours and 47 minutes until kick off. How will the players be up for it without a thread?
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Sesko, Simons and Openda... Leipzig are going to be tough.
Do the German media refer to them as S.O.S?
Well if they ever go 2 nil down and they all score to win then some headline writer is missing a trick if they don't.
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Bayern thread then ?
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Bayern thread then ?
FFS, start it your fucking self rather than asking for one every 5 minutes.
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Bayern thread then ?
FFS, start it your fucking self rather than asking for one every 5 minutes.
He posted exactly the same thing on the post-match thread!
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Praying we dont play anywhere near as bad Wednesday night - otherwise it could be a blood bath
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Plenty of time to turn it around, but you could argue our points tally in the league is par or slightly below par, after today, given our fixtures. If we don’t address our systemic defensive issues this season in the Champions League will be one and done. Clearly hopefully we will address it.
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Bayern thread then ?
FFS, start it your fucking self rather than asking for one every 5 minutes.
He posted exactly the same thing on the post-match thread!
And hasn’t posted on the one that has now been created. The most obvious troll on the site. Which takes some doing when you have Cooper’s Injury on here.
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
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A rather painful watch, but on topic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cn4ywj57130o
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A rather painful watch, but on topic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cn4ywj57130o
Christ, I haven't cringed that hard since that video of the fans singing 'The Bells are Ringing' on the Holte End steps. Horrible.
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At least the kid gets a dig in at the Blues. Why are they not saying Up The Villa? That's the worst bit.
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I look forward to the day our fans boo the UEFA Champions League anthem.
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Ah, that's quite sweet and harmless.
"The manager is funny, I can't understand some of the things he's saying..."!
Try being coached by him...'kin 'ell, our lads must have some patience for all the broken English. Still, Carpethead's Scouse was even 'arder to understand.
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
That claret and blue Adidas shirt is a classic.
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
Time, eh? Everybody in those photos full of youthful exuberance and excitement, oblivious to the fact that fast forward 40 odd years to when they'll be in their 60s and 70s, and that was as good as it gets, with nothing but two relegations and a few near misses in all those years.
We need to win something big again.
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
Time, eh? Everybody in those photos full of youthful exuberance and excitement, oblivious to the fact that fast forward 40 odd years to when they'll be in their 60s and 70s, and that was as good as it gets, with nothing but two relegations and a few near misses in all those years.
We need to win something big again.
Some in those photos will be HEITS sadly. About time we bought some silver polish and our younger fans had something to celebrate
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
Time, eh? Everybody in those photos full of youthful exuberance and excitement, oblivious to the fact that fast forward 40 odd years to when they'll be in their 60s and 70s, and that was as good as it gets, with nothing but two relegations and a few near misses in all those years.
We need to win something big again.
We did win two League Cups, too.
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Anyone else noticed that presently we play Bologna the same night the noses are at home to Bolton !
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Yes and they have a crowded house these days.
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Yes and they have a crowded house these days.
Should be a fun night 👊
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My prediction is if alot of these "bigger clubs" dont finish in the top 8 automatic spots they will be kicking a stink and asking for the old format back
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Just bought Palace tickets. Bologna GA looks to be selling well, be surprised if there's not 40k on.
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My prediction is if alot of these "bigger clubs" dont finish in the top 8 automatic spots they will be kicking a stink and asking for the old format back
I bet all your mates call you 'Nostrademitri'.
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My prediction is if alot of these "bigger clubs" dont finish in the top 8 automatic spots they will be kicking a stink and asking for the old format back
I bet all your mates call you 'Nostrademitri'.
😂😂
No but i might make them start. Might have to change my username just for you
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
Great stuff.
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Celtic doing well
7-1 ha ha
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With everyone having played two games, we've got as many points as AC Milan, Leipzig, Real Madrid and PSG combined.
You'd have taken that when the draw was made.
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A great collection of pics of Villans from Rotterdam '82 on this Twitter thread:
https://x.com/AVFConcamera/status/1840791859871773130
Time, eh? Everybody in those photos full of youthful exuberance and excitement, oblivious to the fact that fast forward 40 odd years to when they'll be in their 60s and 70s, and that was as good as it gets, with nothing but two relegations and a few near misses in all those years.
We need to win something big again.
Some in those photos will be HEITS sadly. About time we bought some silver polish and our younger fans had something to celebrate
One passed away a few years ago and one turned 66 last week and still thinking he's twenty,😉
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Whoever put that down must know themselves that is bollocks.
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It’s bollocks.
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Worst thing Heck has done is ruin Louzie's game.
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Whoever put that down must know themselves that is bollocks.
there were a lot of away seats empty ands 2-3 rows at the front of lower tiers left empty.
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Still won't be near that. I couldn't get a fucking ticket!
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Whoever put that down must know themselves that is bollocks.
there were a lot of away seats empty ands 2-3 rows at the front of lower tiers left empty.
The first couple of rows have to be left empty don’t they?
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+3500 empty seats
Front row in the Holte and North Stand, bigger segregation, Bayern had half an empty block in Witton Lane too.
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Bbc and sky sports reporting it that attendence. How the fuck were 3k seats nit sold ??
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Front row in the Holte and North Stand, bigger segregation, Bayern had half an empty block in Witton Lane too.
I was wondering about that and guessed that it’s for opposition fans who turn up without tix that WMP would rather have in the ground than outside. But is that plausible?
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It looked like club officials and other hangers-on - they didn't do the line dancing the rest of their fans were doing.
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It was sold out, barring a literal handful of corporate seats. In the champions league the capacity is reduced due to the advertising around the pitch (so the first few rows aren't sold) and there is increased segregation between fans. Liverpools attendance was also under 60k (every league game been 60k+), even though last night was their highest attendance in the competition in the current stadium set-up.
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It was sold out, barring a literal handful of corporate seats. In the champions league the capacity is reduced due to the advertising around the pitch (so the first few rows aren't sold) and there is increased segregation between fans. Liverpools attendance was also under 60k (every league game been 60k+), even though last night was their highest attendance in the competition in the current stadium set-up.
Yes the only clump of seats that were empty that I could see was the patch between the Bayern fans in the lower tier, and the Villa fans. Everywhere else appeared to be rammed.
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The bigger advertising definitely removed front row options. Other clubs either sunk the pitch a couple of feet or accounted for it when building newer stands. Do we still have the water tank for the brewery under our pitch?
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5th place is currently nailed for qualification in the Prem league this season. Currently an eleven point difference to second place.
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There were a couple of empty seats near me in the Lower Holte.
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5th place is currently nailed for qualification in the Prem league this season. Currently an eleven point difference to second place.
Funnily enough I was just thinking that an extra benefit of a good run here is it might help us qualify again if we slip to 5th.
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My prediction is if alot of these "bigger clubs" dont finish in the top 8 automatic spots they will be kicking a stink and asking for the old format back
If so how many is that to influence a decision to change? 1 or 2 in my view and they are still in it albeit having to play an additional round. If any of the "top clubs" don't finish in the top 16 it's because they have a shite team and a little anal examination is required rather than poking the finger at the format.
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Do we need to leave more seats empty for adverts/segregation than in the Europa Conference League last season? Pretty sure we had higher attendances for that at VP. All the more reason to get that North Stand rebuilt or a new stadium site sourced.
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5th place is currently nailed for qualification in the Prem league this season. Currently an eleven point difference to second place.
Funnily enough I was just thinking that an extra benefit of a good run here is it might help us qualify again if we slip to 5th.
Still WAAAY to early to know how this will play out. We're in a good position, but 80+% of the fixtures still have to played this season, and with points for wins, all you need is for the English clubs to lose a couple while the others win, and it's all change. We'll have a much better idea once the knockout games start. Hopefully with all 8 English clubs still in their respective competitions.
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I'm guessing part of it is that away allocations are smaller in the CL than in the PL but they occupy the same area, so there's 1000 empty seats. Plus the empty rows we have to have for the CL advertising boards, soon adds up.
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What was with that half empty Bayern stand? Surely they didn't fail to sell all their tickets?
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What was with that half empty Bayern stand? Surely they didn't fail to sell all their tickets?
Ahem!!
I'm guessing part of it is that away allocations are smaller in the CL than in the PL but they occupy the same area, so there's 1000 empty seats. Plus the empty rows we have to have for the CL advertising boards, soon adds up.
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5th place is currently nailed for qualification in the Prem league this season. Currently an eleven point difference to second place.
Funnily enough I was just thinking that an extra benefit of a good run here is it might help us qualify again if we slip to 5th.
Still WAAAY to early to know how this will play out. We're in a good position, but 80+% of the fixtures still have to played this season, and with points for wins, all you need is for the English clubs to lose a couple while the others win, and it's all change. We'll have a much better idea once the knockout games start. Hopefully with all 8 English clubs still in their respective competitions.
I don't think it is. And there is only 7 English clubs which gives us more of an advantage as the coefficient is only divided by 7 and not 8 as for Germany and Italy. We found last year with having extra teams had a knock-on, especially when two teams let down the others early on, although in the end the German clubs also progressed further in the competitions including knocking out English clubs along the way.
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Looked last week and quite a few tickets for sale for the Bologna game in lower Holte L4, just looked again and looks like a handful left
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Still WAAAY to early to know how this will play out. We're in a good position, but 80+% of the fixtures still have to played this season, and with points for wins, all you need is for the English clubs to lose a couple while the others win, and it's all change. We'll have a much better idea once the knockout games start. Hopefully with all 8 English clubs still in their respective competitions.
It feels a lot less likely that so much shitting of the bed happens compared to last year. England only missed out narrowly last time, and that was pretty much all down to Man Utd and Newcastle finishing bottom rather than third of their Champions League groups, meaning no Europa League football to bump things things up with a few extra wins.
The way the four Champions League clubs have started feels like it's going to be a lot harder for any of them to ruin the coefficient as badly as Newcastle / Man Utd did last season. So as long as Spurs and Man Utd (who are currently first and second favourites to win it) don't do much worse than West Ham / Liverpool / Brighton and Chelsea don't do much worse than we did, fifth = Champions League is pretty much nailed on in my opinion.
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Incidentally, we're now as short as 25-1 to win the whole thing in some places.
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What was with that half empty Bayern stand? Surely they didn't fail to sell all their tickets?
Ahem!!
I'm guessing part of it is that away allocations are smaller in the CL than in the PL but they occupy the same area, so there's 1000 empty seats. Plus the empty rows we have to have for the CL advertising boards, soon adds up.
Oophs. What a ridiculous arrangement.
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Although I thought the arrangement was a minimum limit and we could offer more if the away end can hold more.
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Still WAAAY to early to know how this will play out. We're in a good position, but 80+% of the fixtures still have to played this season, and with points for wins, all you need is for the English clubs to lose a couple while the others win, and it's all change. We'll have a much better idea once the knockout games start. Hopefully with all 8 English clubs still in their respective competitions.
It feels a lot less likely that so much shitting of the bed happens compared to last year. England only missed out narrowly last time, and that was pretty much all down to Man Utd and Newcastle finishing bottom rather than third of their Champions League groups, meaning no Europa League football to bump things things up with a few extra wins.
The way the four Champions League clubs have started feels like it's going to be a lot harder for any of them to ruin the coefficient as badly as Newcastle / Man Utd did last season. So as long as Spurs and Man Utd (who are currently first and second favourites to win it) don't do much worse than West Ham / Liverpool / Brighton and Chelsea don't do much worse than we did, fifth = Champions League is pretty much nailed on in my opinion.
I hope you're right! It just feels like there is a LONG way to go...
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You can give the away club as many as you want, most clubs give the minimum though, 5% of capacity.
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I hope you're right! It just feels like there is a LONG way to go...
Oh, sure. And like last season, if we find outselves hovering around fifth / sixth in March, banking on and hoping for Spurs and Man Utd to do well is going to feel no more pleasant than hoping Liverpool and West Ham did last time around.
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What was with that half empty Bayern stand? Surely they didn't fail to sell all their tickets?
BBC radio commentator last night stated some Bayern fans refuse to pay inflated prices for away tickets and ours were expensive.
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I hope you're right! It just feels like there is a LONG way to go...
Oh, sure. And like last season, if we find outselves hovering around fifth / sixth in March, banking on and hoping for Spurs and Man Utd to do well is going to feel no more pleasant than hoping Liverpool and West Ham did last time around.
I think the new format for calculating which leagues are strongest is a lot more Champions League-heavy than it was last year. Tottenham or Man U could win the Europa League but it won't matter much if Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal and ourselves don't do well. Extra benefit of beating a German team yesterday. Leipzig, Girona and AC Milan all having zero points from two games can't hurt.
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What was with that half empty Bayern stand? Surely they didn't fail to sell all their tickets?
BBC radio commentator last night stated some Bayern fans refuse to pay inflated prices for away tickets and ours were expensive.
Aren't the prices capped for away fans?
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I hope you're right! It just feels like there is a LONG way to go...
Oh, sure. And like last season, if we find outselves hovering around fifth / sixth in March, banking on and hoping for Spurs and Man Utd to do well is going to feel no more pleasant than hoping Liverpool and West Ham did last time around.
When we win the thing, we’ll get automatic qualification anyway won’t we?
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Indeed, but obviously around March time we won't know for definite that we're going to win it. Which we definitely will.
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I hope you're right! It just feels like there is a LONG way to go...
Oh, sure. And like last season, if we find outselves hovering around fifth / sixth in March, banking on and hoping for Spurs and Man Utd to do well is going to feel no more pleasant than hoping Liverpool and West Ham did last time around.
When we win the thing, we’ll get automatic qualification anyway won’t we?
Believe so at £50
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My prediction is if alot of these "bigger clubs" dont finish in the top 8 automatic spots they will be kicking a stink and asking for the old format back
If so how many is that to influence a decision to change? 1 or 2 in my view and they are still in it albeit having to play an additional round. If any of the "top clubs" don't finish in the top 16 it's because they have a shite team and a little anal examination is required rather than poking the finger at the format.
Good question- i was readibg a piece of aky sports where they had a few pundits answering whether this format is better than previous and merse for one was saying he thinks its better.
I agree with you. If you are too shit to finish in top 8 or win a play off game its nothing to do with format just you were not good enough. I bet madrid and munich are not enjoying this new format. In a few years if the lesser clubs like us start doing better than the bigger ones you know their will be grumbles from the more prestigious clubs
I like that there is no real advantage in group phase now and no more dropping into europa
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Indeed, but obviously around March time we won't know for definite that we're going to win it. Which we definitely will.
But won't we have the league wrapped up by then?
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I like this format, and it's likely we'll end up with the same old teams in the final stages, but at least at this point it feels like there's way more teams in contention. It also means the 4th seed teams aren't just annihilated by the other 3 in their groups. Everyone has a chance at a win, and some money.
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I like this format, and it's likely we'll end up with the same old teams in the final stages, but at least at this point it feels like there's way more teams in contention. It also means the 4th seed teams aren't just annihilated by the other 3 in their groups. Everyone has a chance at a win, and some money.
Yeah exactly. Also you have instances were pot 4 seed like us beat pot 1 seed as we had home advantage. We also dont have to now worry about playing them again in Germany
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We had some luck in the draw that the "better" teams in the pots were drawn at home. And our away match from group one is Leipzig who, although got a reasonable record in Europe over the last 8 seasons to drop them in the pot, are not one of the big teams.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
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There's a decent chance more big sides will miss out on the last 16 with this format. And they have no Europa safety net.
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There's a decent chance more big sides will miss out on the last 16 with this format. And they have no Europa safety net.
I expect the extra Euro money in the new format league makes up for not playing extra matches in the lower league when they probably don't want them. Especially if they are well placed in their own league for qualification and maybe winning it.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
That and squeezing a couple more games in.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.
Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.
Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.
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This is a much more interesting format.
We've made €4.2m in prize money from our first two games. I wonder how much a win in the Conference League generated.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.
Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.
Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it
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This is a much more interesting format.
We've made €4.2m in prize money from our first two games. I wonder how much a win in the Conference League generated.
I thought it was 500k last season.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.
Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.
Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it
I bet RM, AM and BM stats teams had predicted them to win their games. Now they're playing catch up as they wont want to go through the playoffs, and we have a comparatively easy run. It will be interesting which other outsiders can grab and hold on to the top 8 places.
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It's a perfect format to ensure that the bigger, richer teams qualify, removing as much jeopardy for them as possible.
Fortunately we're in that club at the moment. If it were Spurs in our place, I can't imagine I'd find it particularly interesting.
I disagree
In last seasons format real madrid would avoid another elite club like arsenal munich etc probably wouldnt play them until quarters.
They dont have that advantage anymore. It benefits teams like us. I suspect that had this format been in place last season newcastle would have qualified easy. You just have to see their group last season to see how much of a advantage it was for the regulars compared to the likes of newcastle
Newcastle and us ARE bigger, richer teams. Of course Newcastle probably would have qualified under the the new system because they would have been given an opportunity to pummel someone like Young Boys, Brugge and Celtic just like we have been.
It doesn't matter that Arsenal have to play PSG and Liverpool have to play Real Madrid. All four are still going through irrespective of what happens in those games.
It's designed to make sure that there is no risk of anyone who makes money from going out too early.
Bayern for example will probably still qualify but lets just say two or three clubs like us get in that top 8 and then bayern finish in the play off spots no gurantees they can qualify in that two legged game depends who they get. Its certainly harder than the previous tournament.
Looking at their next three barcelona away benfica home ans PSG home. Those are three very tough games. They would have only likley played benfica out of those three in old format
Meanwhile Real Madrid have Dortmund Milan and Liverpool. This format definitely increases the chances that some of the favoured ones will be in the play-offs and eliminated much earlier than would be in their cash flows.
Exactly my point no advantage no matter what team you are. You could argue we have easier games on paper than them. We are also making more money as ads is alluding to as well. I suspect fans like us like it and fans like munich hate it
I bet RM, AM and BM stats teams had predicted them to win their games. Now they're playing catch up as they wont want to go through the playoffs, and we have a comparatively easy run. It will be interesting which other outsiders can grab and hold on to the top 8 places.
Well i still think we have some toughies like Leizpig juventus and i think brugges away might be tougher than we expect
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
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It will be fine.
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/birmingham-city-trip-take-place-original-date
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Police might have the final say
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
We might bump into Lichfield Blue...
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
Just think of all the love the Bologna fans drinking in town will get from them, whether it's professing their hatred of 'da Vile' or discussing their favourite alumni from the oldest university in Europe.
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
If it wasnt going to be horrendous for the police we wouldnt be playing our home games alternative week to the blosers!
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
Just think of all the love the Bologna fans drinking in town will get from them, whether it's professing their hatred of 'da Vile' or discussing their favourite alumni from the oldest university in Europe.
Im sure wagner the wanker will be tryibg ti give freebie tickets to bologna fans like the desperation he tried last season
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From The Athletic -
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE PROJECTIONS
Aston Villa
Projected points total before MD 1: 10 (22nd in projection table)
Projected points total after MD 1: 12 (16th)
Projected points after MD 2: 16 (10th)
After Newcastle United’s eventual struggles last season, eyes were on Aston Villa to see how they would adapt to the Champions League. A convincing 3-0 win over Young Boys on Matchday 1 boosted hopes and improved their chances of direct qualification into the round of 16 from 11 per cent to 19 per cent.
Few could have foreseen what followed this week, though, as another Jhon Duran stunner handed Villa a memorable 1-0 win over Bayern Munich in a replay of the 1982 European Cup final.
On the back of that result, Unai Emery’s side have favourable fixtures either side of Juventus’ visit to Villa Park in November, leaving them with only a five per cent chance of league-stage elimination.
Remaining fixtures: Bologna (H), Club Brugge (A), Juventus (H), RB Leipzig (A), Monaco (A), Celtic (H)
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
If it wasnt going to be horrendous for the police we wouldnt be playing our home games alternative week to the blosers!
We alternate because it's easier where possible, not because both being at home is horrendous.
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We've played at home on the same night before, every time some predict carnage and there never is. They'll claim they taught Bologna fans to sing SOTV and be giddy with excitement over it.
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
Sneaky fuckers picking off single fans on thier own
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Confirmed the blose home game vs bolton is same day as villa vs bologna and isnt getting moved as boltons website. God what a mess thats going to be. Its going to be horrendous for the police
Why would it be horrendous for the police? There is very little chance of our fans meeting blose in centre.
If it wasnt going to be horrendous for the police we wouldnt be playing our home games alternative week to the blosers!
We alternate because it's easier where possible, not because both being at home is horrendous.
There will be trouble wait and see
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
He follows Olympiakos, so it's understandable that the sight of rival fans sporting green & white and shamrocks would turn him into a gibbering wreck.
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
He follows Olympiakos, so it's understandable that the sight of rival fans wearing green & white and shamrocks would turn him into a gibbering wreck.
Ive seen some right shit in Cypriot and games in greece. Makes english football look like pantomime
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
He follows Olympiakos, so it's understandable that the sight of rival fans wearing green & white and shamrocks would turn him into a gibbering wreck.
Ive seen some right shit in Cypriot and games in greece. Makes english football look like pantomime
Oh no it doesn’t.
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Has there been any update on the Opta point prediction data? I've not found anything so far but expect the data has changed now there are actual results to add to the data.
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Latest projected table. Not sure why RM are above us.
(https://i.ibb.co/n3f3WxY/IMG-8269.png) (https://ibb.co/n3f3WxY)
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Latest projected table. Not sure why RM are above us.
Probably because their odds of finishing top 8 are higher than ours (for whatever reason).
The fact that 4 of our remaining 6 opponents are projected to finish 23rd, 24th, 27th and 29th should be cause for optimism.
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Gosh, we’re doing (notionally) really well, aren’t we?!
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In my projected table we are top with 8 wins.
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That’s the spirit!
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Approximate away allocations based on 5%
Leipzig 2,300
Brugge 1,450
YB 1,600
Monaco 800
Thanks. I think I just realised I’m unlikely to get any, ST who did Lille & Ajax which obviously had much bigger allocations, can anyone guesstimate how many are likely to have done more euro aways to be in higher categories? I fancied Bruges but I guess so would everyone. I wouldn’t go without a Villa ticket.
You should be ok for Leipzig.
My probably wildly inaccurate guess on away ticket numbers would be
6 aways about 400 people
5 aways about 200 people
4 aways about 500 people
3 aways about 500 people
2 aways and 1 away about another 1000-1500
But as i said that's a guess on my part.
Kind of amazed how many tiers they've bothered to put out for Brugge tickets. The only hope i have is that there seemed to be some misinformation going round that it would be e-tix not collection in situ, and whether some people didn't book travel, but if there is a sense they now have to go themselves I guess they still might.
Hoping it gets as far as the 2 away 4th tier on Monday 4pm. Anybody have any more sense or inside info?
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
He follows Olympiakos, so it's understandable that the sight of rival fans wearing green & white and shamrocks would turn him into a gibbering wreck.
Ive seen some right shit in Cypriot and games in greece. Makes english football look like pantomime
Oh no it doesn’t.
Yeah ok mate 😂
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Was good to see nigel reo coker in champions league club talking complimentary about us against munich ahd how emery out smarted kompany. I bet bayern would love emery as their manager
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DC will be fine, anyway, as he goes into hiding four months before the Celtic game, to be on the safe side.
He follows Olympiakos, so it's understandable that the sight of rival fans wearing green & white and shamrocks would turn him into a gibbering wreck.
Ive seen some right shit in Cypriot and games in greece. Makes english football look like pantomime
Oh no it doesn’t.
Yeah ok mate 😂
Whoosh
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I'm in the ticket scheme. Payment and ticket went through fine for Bayern.....
Received email yesterday saying that Bologne payment would be taken at 5pm yesterday. Still no payment taken, and just checked my account and the ticket scheme tick box is now unticked. WTF?!
Piss-up and brewery springs to mind!
Piss up in a brewery is 100% correct. Bayern they said they had tried to take the money but bank had refused the payment, so I contacted my bank and they said there hadn't been any payment attempt made. So I took it upon myself to purchase it, then took myself out of the Champions league cup scheme then for Bologna I get an email saying they will be attempting to take payment. It's an absolute shambles
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More analysis of the Bayern win on Football Focus today covering Duran, Emi and Rogers. Followed by Mark Clemmit spending the day at Blackpool as a Brucie bonus.
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We're the only team in 88 years to have played Bayern Munich more than once and never concede a goal. They're our bunnies.
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We're the only team in 88 years to have played Bayern Munich more than once and never concede a goal. They're our bunnies.
Hopefully it becomes one of those Dundee Utd v Barcelona records.
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I tell you what, those fucking Celtic numpties better not be allowed to bring their fucking drum to Villa Park.
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In my projected table we are top with 8 wins.
Did Zendaya massage your shoulders as Margot Robbie poured you a cold beer whilst you compiled it?
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In my projected table we are top with 8 wins.
Did Zendaya massage your shoulders as Margot Robbie poured you a cold beer whilst you compiled it?
Yes. While being interviewed by that nice young lady we now have on Villa TV.
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Bologna sold out
https://x.com/guillembalague/status/1842892339733238000?s=46
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Bologna sold out
https://x.com/guillembalague/status/1842892339733238000?s=46
It hasn't, still quite a lot in the Upper North. I bought three about two minutes ago.
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Bologna sold out
https://x.com/guillembalague/status/1842892339733238000?s=46
Brilliant
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZNRSZLWgAAbKTm?format=jpg)
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Don’t shoot the messenger
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No shooting involved, just making sure it was known that it wasn't true.
It gave me a few nervous minutes as I'd been planning on getting them tomorrow!
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I was surprised that the game would be sold out this early also. Especially at those prices. It probably gets close to it in the end.
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Absolutely nowhere near sold out.
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Had an email yesterday, a third one so far, telling me that Bologna tickets are on sale.
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I'll see if there are any left days before and decide if I'll go or not. £400 for the group games is obscene and I'm reluctant to go to all.
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And if it takes another 41 years to get back there, it will be a total.missed opportunity. It's really expensive, absolutely, but if you can afford it or move some cash around, fuck it. What else could you be waiting for? Honestly anybody that didn't go to Bayern has missed one of the greatest games in decades.
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Did we get the official Bayern attendance , BBC has it less than 39'000 , I'd imagine Bologna will be sub 37'000 on this basis if correct
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Did we get the official Bayern attendance , BBC has it less than 39'000 , I'd imagine Bologna will be sub 37'000 on this basis if correct
It will sell out in the next few days. About 600-700 tickets left now (excluding GA+ seats).
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And if it takes another 41 years to get back there, it will be a total.missed opportunity. It's really expensive, absolutely, but if you can afford it or move some cash around, fuck it. What else could you be waiting for? Honestly anybody that didn't go to Bayern has missed one of the greatest games in decades.
Which makes me hate Heck even more, one of the group I sit with had to sacrifice Wednesday because of the cost, he's been there through the bad times but because of the cost had to miss as you said the greatest games in decades and he's gutted about it. I'll never forgive Heck for that.
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I'm sure this point has been made somewhere before, but I've only just remembered the European Super League project and wonder if this format is meant as a concession to the proponents of the former...
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Isn’t the capacity for CL games reduced because of extra height advertising hoardings or something?
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1 ticket obtained in the Jan Breydel stadium however important question, was or is Jan Breydel a famous Belgian?
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I'm sure this point has been made somewhere before, but I've only just remembered the European Super League project and wonder if this format is meant as a concession to the proponents of the former...
It protects or gives a much better chance for big clubs to progress. More games and only two out of eight against equal heavy weights.
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1 ticket obtained in the Jan Breydel stadium however important question, was or is Jan Breydel a famous Belgian?
I hope to come see his statue, should by miracles tix get to 4pm and my spin of the wheel is successful.... any updates on any/numbers left ater 3pm appreciated!
wiki
Jan Breydel (Dutch pronunciation: [jɑm ˈbrɛidəl]; c. 1264 – between 1328 and 1333)[1] is credited with leading the Bruges Matins (Brugse Metten), a violent uprising against Philip the Fair.[2] He is said to have played a major role in the Franco-Flemish War, even though his authenticity has since been questioned.[3]
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For those season ticket holders in the cup scheme has anyone had payment taken for Bologne game?
Just checked my bank account and still no deduction, which seems strange given the email from the club a couple of weeks ago.
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My money was taken on 22 September but I haven't had the tickets to download to my wallet yet. If you have an online account you can check to see if the tickets are allocated to you.
I think that this is in the wrong topic.
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Anybody any inside info?
After both countries change clocks both back one hour 27/10, Brussels is still an hour ahead of London in October.
Bruges KO is listed as 1745 in both countries but presumably will be 1645 U.K.
will be a lot of people finishing early…
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Anybody any inside info?
After both countries change clocks both back one hour 27/10, Brussels is still an hour ahead of London in October.
Bruges KO is listed as 1745 in both countries but presumably will be 1645 U.K.
will be a lot of people finishing early…
I think the 17.45 would be UK time and it'll be different for CET. All the early kick-offs so far have been 17.45 UK.
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For those season ticket holders in the cup scheme has anyone had payment taken for Bologne game?
Just checked my bank account and still no deduction, which seems strange given the email from the club a couple of weeks ago.
I've seen reference to people confused/anxious to finding the scheme unticked on their profile, system as is sounds nothing but a headache...
Not helped by the ticket office being impenetrable by phone these days (took me an hour last Weds, lovely/efficient as ever when you get through); Twitter DM used to be amazing overnight service, stuff would be done the next morning, they've become next to useless forcing more (me, multiple times) onto the phones :/
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Anybody any inside info?
After both countries change clocks both back one hour 27/10, Brussels is still an hour ahead of London in October.
Bruges KO is listed as 1745 in both countries but presumably will be 1645 U.K.
will be a lot of people finishing early…
I think the 17.45 would be UK time and it'll be different for CET. All the early kick-offs so far have been 17.45 UK.
https://www.clubbrugge.be/en/competition/a-kern/all-matches
Their AC Milan away in October is listed 1745, their Villa home in Nov 1745, would be very weird if it's a mistake there.
There is a mistake one side of the channel.
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Yup. I'd bet that it's 17.45 here though.
As an example, their site also has their away game at Celtic kicking off at 20.00. So that's not going to be 20.00 their time...
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I hope to come see his statue, should by miracles tix get to 4pm and my spin of the wheel is successful.... any updates on any/numbers left ater 3pm appreciated!
As it's collect in person in Brugge there's no seat map just different buttons for GA, GA+ etc. So it's impossible to know how many have gone. Good luck to all who are trying.
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I hope to come see his statue, should by miracles tix get to 4pm and my spin of the wheel is successful.... any updates on any/numbers left ater 3pm appreciated!
As it's collect in person in Brugge there's no seat map just different buttons for GA, GA+ etc. So it's impossible to know how many have gone. Good luck to all who are trying.
Ok thanks. Will just look out for the sold out and juggle with the school run!
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I hope to come see his statue, should by miracles tix get to 4pm and my spin of the wheel is successful.... any updates on any/numbers left ater 3pm appreciated!
As it's collect in person in Brugge there's no seat map just different buttons for GA, GA+ etc. So it's impossible to know how many have gone. Good luck to all who are trying.
Ok thanks. Will just look out for the sold out and juggle with the school run!
Young Boys got down to 2 aways on the criteria but slightly less tickets this time so may be a bit of fastest finger first on two aways this time.
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So helpful to know thanks, though there would have been less demand for the further travel, perhaps Vs ‘first ever’ Chumps League.
Back in the day it was queuing at Villa park/programme vouchers I remember my Dad doing occasionally. I guess this is the modern version!
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And if it takes another 41 years to get back there, it will be a total.missed opportunity. It's really expensive, absolutely, but if you can afford it or move some cash around, fuck it. What else could you be waiting for? Honestly anybody that didn't go to Bayern has missed one of the greatest games in decades.
I fully understand the difficult times some find themselves in or just hard choices many have had to make on what to spend on. And these tickets are expensive. But I’m with you on this Ads. Lots of Villa fans have shelled out $1000s on mostly utter shit the past 2 decades. Certainly been taken on a roller coaster the past 5 or so years back in the PL. We have finally made the CL and I’d have loved to have been at the game last week. The tickets are probably £25-30 too expensive. But in the end that might £120 over 4 games we have earned as fans to go watch. And yes I absolutely get loyalty but let’s face it, CL tickets were never going to be the same price as PL tickets. Is the premium too much? Probably. But when I look back on the journey I’d be finding a way. I appreciate that might not be as easy for others to say yes to.
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Anybody any inside info?
After both countries change clocks both back one hour 27/10, Brussels is still an hour ahead of London in October.
Bruges KO is listed as 1745 in both countries but presumably will be 1645 U.K.
will be a lot of people finishing early…
I think the 17.45 would be UK time and it'll be different for CET. All the early kick-offs so far have been 17.45 UK.
https://www.clubbrugge.be/en/competition/a-kern/all-matches
Their AC Milan away in October is listed 1745, their Villa home in Nov 1745, would be very weird if it's a mistake there.
There is a mistake one side of the channel.
I think the site defaults to UK settings if it detects an UK IP address/ computer settings as it was all in Dutch on first logon then defaulted to English once I clicked on the cookie accepting.
Edit: Definitely all seem to default to UK times. Even checked for all their other matches on Google and the times are all set for UK.
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Weird way to choose your seat for this one.
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1 ticket obtained in the Jan Breydel stadium however important question, was or is Jan Breydel a famous Belgian?
wiki
Jan Breydel (Dutch pronunciation: [jɑm ˈbrɛidəl]; c. 1264 – between 1328 and 1333)[1] is credited with leading the Bruges Matins (Brugse Metten), a violent uprising against Philip the Fair.[2] He is said to have played a major role in the Franco-Flemish War, even though his authenticity has since been questioned.[3]
Thank you. Next time someone asks me to name a famous Belgian, Jan's my man.
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All sold out on 3 aways at 14:01
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Yep gutted. Had naively got some hope up!
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Yep gutted. Had naively got some hope up!
Sorry to hear that. Any plan to go and sit with Brugge fans?
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Yep gutted. Had naively got some hope up!
Sorry to hear that. Any plan to go and sit with Brugge fans?
From the Brugge away tickets thread that looks difficult.
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Yep gutted. Had naively got some hope up!
Sorry to hear that. Any plan to go and sit with Brugge fans?
I do have an offer (TBC) of a likely home tkt next to the away section, not a great fan of that and also wanted it on my history. No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar, but as someone else from Luton doing it I would have a travel budy. Needs some careful childcare negotiations too.
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Managed to snag a Young Boys away ticket, but having that on my history meant nothing for this game. Had 2 Euro aways from last season and all homes on my history, but fell short by one criteria block.
Still going over, as will a lot of others... but farming out a tonne of our allocation to corporates is utter bollocks imo.
Also, what's with the criteria where 2 homes and 3 aways is higher than 3 homes and 2 aways?? Surely going to ALL home games should be a prerequisite for being eligible for any aways - If you can't support your team at their own ground, how is it fair that you're further up the pecking order for highly sought after away tickets??
The whole scheme is an utter sham.
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No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar,
No, me neither 👀
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Managed to snag a Young Boys away ticket, but having that on my history meant nothing for this game. Had 2 Euro aways from last season and all homes on my history, but fell short by one criteria block.
Still going over, as will a lot of others... but farming out a tonne of our allocation to corporates is utter bollocks imo.
Also, what's with the criteria where 2 homes and 3 aways is higher than 3 homes and 2 aways?? Surely going to ALL home games should be a prerequisite for being eligible for any aways - If you can't support your team at their own ground, how is it fair that you're further up the pecking order for highly sought after away tickets??
The whole scheme is an utter sham.
If that’s the case it is incredibly unfair, but did they (GA+) have to have the same history? Wouldn’t make much sense apart from having jumped the ST queue, or if they ringfence so it gets further down their tiers. Anyone?
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What evidence do we have that we’ve farmed out a tonne of tickets to Corporate?
Also don’t Corproate and GA+ have to have the same criteria as us normal GA folks.
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No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar,
No, me neither 👀
This will be like Lile where we took thousands, despite an allocation of 2500.
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No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar,
No, me neither 👀
My lad is going just for that, he's only young so I can understand it,guess who flying from Ireland to babysit the grandchildren for the week?
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Can't think of many (any?) places to sit in a bar and watch the football than an attractive town in Belgium.
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No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar,
No, me neither 👀
This will be like Lile where we took thousands, despite an allocation of 2500.
It’s my birthday the weekend after, so I’m going to watch the match in Bruges, spend a couple of days elsewhere (Brussels/Ghent) then the wife is coming over for my actual birthday as she wants to do Bruges.
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I’ll be going with my son and he’s having my ticket and I’ll watch in a bar unless I can source a home end ticket. Really looking forward to it.
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You'll likely be able to source a ticket. I picked one up for the good lady out in Bern.
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There were loads of empty seats by the looks in their first home game vs Dortmund
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What evidence do we have that we’ve farmed out a tonne of tickets to Corporate?
Also don’t Corproate and GA+ have to have the same criteria as us normal GA folks.
I do think this is sometimes thrown out there when people miss out, but surely if any GA+ get tickets, they are ST holders in that area and have the required points from going to away games previously, they only thing that have done is potentially jumped the ST queue last year, which they may have been on for he waiting list anyway
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I know a company who spends £80k a season on an executive box and they do not get tickets for away games as part of their package.
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What evidence do we have that we’ve farmed out a tonne of tickets to Corporate?
Also don’t Corproate and GA+ have to have the same criteria as us normal GA folks.
I do think this is sometimes thrown out there when people miss out, but surely if any GA+ get tickets, they are ST holders in that area and have the required points from going to away games previously, they only thing that have done is potentially jumped the ST queue last year, which they may have been on for he waiting list anyway
I said the same a few posts ago, *unless* they ring fence some for corporate. Was there an allegation of that? Any evidence? Lions clubs have not had tickets.
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There were loads of empty seats by the looks in their first home game vs Dortmund
Yes, but all the lost Blues fans will be getting a ticket to support Brugge in this match.
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What evidence do we have that we’ve farmed out a tonne of tickets to Corporate?
Also don’t Corproate and GA+ have to have the same criteria as us normal GA folks.
I do think this is sometimes thrown out there when people miss out, but surely if any GA+ get tickets, they are ST holders in that area and have the required points from going to away games previously, they only thing that have done is potentially jumped the ST queue last year, which they may have been on for he waiting list anyway
I said the same a few posts ago, *unless* they ring fence some for corporate. Was there an allegation of that? Any evidence? Lions clubs have not had tickets.
It’s the same criteria rules for Corporate and GA+ as it is for us in GA as far as I’m aware. I think we calculated through the seat map at Bern that we had about approx 10% of supporters who were GA+ and Hosp who met the criteria. Using the same rough call that would be about 140 tickets for this one.
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Sure. So my question is if they ring fence for GA+ so eg they get further down the tiers.
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Sure. So my question is if they ring fence for GA+ so eg they get further down the tiers.
Ah I see what you’re saying. I don’t know in all honesty.
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Sure. So my question is if they ring fence for GA+ so eg they get further down the tiers.
Ah I see what you’re saying. I don’t know in all honesty.
When it's tickets in advance, such as YB or Spurs, there's areas that we can't select. I doubt very much that they're allowing GA to select any of those if GA runs out and GA+ is still working down the criteria. To do so would be complicated. Without asking a GA+ person, I doubt it's possible to know for sure. For Brugge there was no visibility of seats as it's collect on the day but there were separate buttons for GA, GA+ and if I remember correctly CAT1.
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Went to all the home European games last year but only one away (Ajax). Was hoping I might get one for Bruges but it was sold out well before my category. Gutted but not surprised.
Will be over there anyway because it's a fine city.
Any advice on how to obtain a home end ticket when I'm over there?
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Went to all the home European games last year but only one away (Ajax). Was hoping I might get one for Bruges but it was sold out well before my category. Gutted but not surprised.
Will be over there anyway because it's a fine city.
Any advice on how to obtain a home end ticket when I'm over there?
If you find out, let me know please!
They are not selling to people who didn't register before 31/08 on their website. Had a quick look on the secondary market earlier and cheapest tickets are 135 quid each.
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Ignore
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They are not selling to people who didn't register before 31/08 on their website. Had a quick look on the secondary market earlier and cheapest tickets are 135 quid each.
Where did you find that price? The sites I looked at were about £169
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Went to all the home European games last year but only one away (Ajax). Was hoping I might get one for Bruges but it was sold out well before my category. Gutted but not surprised.
Will be over there anyway because it's a fine city.
Don't blame you, should be a good one. It would be superb if Brendan Gleeson made the trip.
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Preferred "The banshees of Inisherin" myself...but "In Bruges" wasn't bad.
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I wonder how many will be in Brugge without tickets. Spoke to a fair few on Sunday who were going hoping to get one in the home end. Brugge is a lovely place so I'm going for a few days with my partner. I'm one of the lucky ones with a ticket though.
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They are not selling to people who didn't register before 31/08 on their website. Had a quick look on the secondary market earlier and cheapest tickets are 135 quid each.
Where did you find that price? The sites I looked at were about £169
Looks like they've gone. I can only see 169 now too.
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Yes, at these bargain prices I’d be snapping their hand too..not!!
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Anybody any inside info?
After both countries change clocks both back one hour 27/10, Brussels is still an hour ahead of London in October.
Bruges KO is listed as 1745 in both countries but presumably will be 1645 U.K.
will be a lot of people finishing early…
I think the 17.45 would be UK time and it'll be different for CET. All the early kick-offs so far have been 17.45 UK.
https://www.clubbrugge.be/en/competition/a-kern/all-matches
Their AC Milan away in October is listed 1745, their Villa home in Nov 1745, would be very weird if it's a mistake there.
There is a mistake one side of the channel.
It’s showing you *your* local time. :)
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Yes, at these bargain prices I’d be snapping their hand too..not!!
Christ, don't let Heck-onomics find out we are prepared to pay these prices....it'll give him ideas
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Re GA+ access to away tickets. A friend of a friend who is GA+ has got away tickets for Bruges with, as far as I'm aware, no prior European away record.
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Re GA+ access to away tickets. A friend of a friend who is GA+ has got away tickets for Bruges with, as far as I'm aware, no prior European away record.
If correct, which I’m not doubting, then it is absolutely wrong, it should go on the same criteria for everyone, whether they are are GA, GA+, Corporate or members
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Not sure what the difference between various categories is, my mate was in the Oak Room in the Trinity before Bayern on one of his tickets. I imagine they cost a few quid.
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I’m half-tempted to go to the youth game in the afternoon, given the impossibility of getting a ticket to the match proper. Presumably that’ll be fairly easy to get a ticket for.
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Youth game is at BMH so not sure what the access to those games are like for general public.
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Re GA+ access to away tickets. A friend of a friend who is GA+ has got away tickets for Bruges with, as far as I'm aware, no prior European away record.
That suggests it went way down the tiers in GA+, those of us on 2 euro aways didn’t get the chance to even try, as it sold out 14.01 presumably some with 3 didn’t even get them.
Got to say that does start (start?!) to crunch the gears if paying extra to queue jump the ST also has this benefit. Again it questions the honouring of loyalty, of folk who have had ST for decades rather than our 5yrs, and folk that have done plenty more away and get excluded.
Hadn’t originally expected to get one, saw the ridiculous layers of criteria beyond where it would obviously sell out, and now understanding why they were there, they were written for GA+. Stinks.
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I’m half-tempted to go to the youth game in the afternoon, given the impossibility of getting a ticket to the match proper. Presumably that’ll be fairly easy to get a ticket for.
Just for info, NXT (Bruges youth team) play 25 Km’s from Bruges,
(https://i.ibb.co/L110Dz8/IMG-8287.png) (https://ibb.co/L110Dz8)
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Youth game is at BMH so not sure what the access to those games are like for general public.
The Bayern youth game @BMH tix were available on our website £5, sold out before the day of the game. No idea where the Bruges kids game is, thought it would be same as 1st team away.
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I didn't realise Olney was talking about Bruges and thought it was the next Euro game at home to Bologna. There is a small stadium on the back pitch at BMH but can't see it holding more then several hundred seats tops.
I believe the kids play in the same fixtures home and away as the main team.
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I’m half-tempted to go to the youth game in the afternoon, given the impossibility of getting a ticket to the match proper. Presumably that’ll be fairly easy to get a ticket for.
Just for info, NXT (Bruges youth team) play 25 Km’s from Bruges,
(https://i.ibb.co/L110Dz8/IMG-8287.png) (https://ibb.co/L110Dz8)
Cheers.
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Bit more info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiervelde_Stadion
8.5k capacity.
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Bit more info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiervelde_Stadion
8.5k capacity.
Looks better than St Andrews.
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Bit more info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiervelde_Stadion
8.5k capacity.
Looks better than St Andrews.
The local rec looks better than the Sty
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Yep gutted. Had naively got some hope up!
Sorry to hear that. Any plan to go and sit with Brugge fans?
I do have an offer (TBC) of a likely home tkt next to the away section, not a great fan of that and also wanted it on my history. No way would I go all that way to sit in a bar, but as someone else from Luton doing it I would have a travel budy. Needs some careful childcare negotiations too.
So now all sorted 50 euro tkt next to the villa fans. (thank you to the Belgian Brother who is aware of the demand but says Bruges fans not so keen to give up their Fan ID).
I had a £30 return coach from London prebooked, but death by coach (15hrs there and back for 6.5hrs there was a bit painful). So those nectar points that have been sitting there for years are converted to a Eurostar out that morning (cost me an extra 50p !), to accompany a fellow Midlands Ex-pat now in Beds on both legs.
Annoying not to be with the Villa fans, but not sure i'll be able to travel for Leipzig so at least one CL 'away'...
Can't afford to get to Bologna home as well, but there you go Mr Heck.
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
I believe villa are South Stand 421 & 422. I’ll be sitting on my hands in 423.
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When's the Bologna thread starting ?
And Fulham thread.
Fulham first then ?
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I don't know, when?
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Maybe both together?
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When's the Bologna thread starting ?
And Fulham thread.
Fulham first then ?
Bolognacthread will start straight after the Fulham match.
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Maybe both together?
I like this idea.
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I didn't realise Olney was talking about Bruges and thought it was the next Euro game at home to Bologna. There is a small stadium on the back pitch at BMH but can't see it holding more then several hundred seats tops.
I believe the kids play in the same fixtures home and away as the main team.
5pm today for those wanting to make a day of it.
Aston Villa U19 V Bologna U19
UEFA Youth League
Bodymoor Heath
22 Oct
Tue13:00
COMING SOON
PRE BOOKED TICKETS ONLY
On Sale Dates
Season Ticket Holders OR Supporters with an Under 21’s Booking History - Online from 5pm, 10 October - Phone from 9.30am, 11 October
General Sale - Online from 5pm, 11 October - Phone from 9.30am, 14 October
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Maybe both together?
I've tried it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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When's the Bologna thread starting ?
And Fulham thread.
Fulham first then ?
Don't wish your life away. Enjoy the international period with no worthwhile football to watch. The trees this time of year offer far more fascinating views as colours and shapes change and contort.
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
Where did you get tickets from?
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Don't wish your life away. Enjoy the international period with no worthwhile football to watch. The trees this time of year offer far more fascinating views as colours and shapes change and contort.
Thanks Charles, and double thanks for bringing up your first born the right way.
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I've just noticed that we play Juventus on the same night Liverpool play Real Madrid at Anfield.
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I've just noticed that we play Juventus on the same night Liverpool play Real Madrid at Anfield.
What’s interesting about that?
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I've just noticed that we play Juventus on the same night Liverpool play Real Madrid at Anfield.
I just realised that last Sunday whilst we were playing manu Chelsea played Forest.
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We probably won't be first on MOTD! 😡
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We probably won't be first on MOTD! 😡
I dangled the bait lol, didn't take long..
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We probably won't be first on MOTD! 😡
I dangled the bait lol, didn't take long..
It's the worst thing in the world!
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We probably won't be first on MOTD! 😡
I dangled the bait lol, didn't take long..
It's the worst thing in the world...
...apart from the mental image of Chip Butty dangling his bait.
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
Where did you get tickets from?
Couple of a Polish lad from Cov, who’s got two accounts at Bruges and two Antwerp fans I know who both got me one each from Bruges contacts they’ve got.
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Would a trout be interested in a chip butty dangling from a line?
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Would a trout be interested in a chip butty dangling from a line?
Depends how hungry the trout is, unless it was a brummie trout who would no doubt go for it..
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
Where did you get tickets from?
Couple of a Polish lad from Cov, who’s got two accounts at Bruges and two Antwerp fans I know who both got me one each from Bruges contacts they’ve got.
You're some cad, Lenny.
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Would a trout be interested in a chip butty dangling from a line?
Depends how hungry the trout is, unless it was a brummie trout who would no doubt go for it..
I doubt that there are any trout alive in the waterways of Brum.
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Would a trout be interested in a chip butty dangling from a line?
Not if they have any taste. Love chips, love bread, but chip butties* are shite.
*No offence like.
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Any combination of a sandwich consisting purely of bread plus potato is surely absolutely unforgiveable?
Unless it is, say, the 1930s and bread and potato are the only things you get to eat without resorting to rats and grass.
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
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Fuck that, I love a chip butty. Any excuse to consume butter, to be honest.
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Fuck that, I love a chip butty. Any excuse to consume butter, to be honest.
Whilst I appreciate the latter sentiment, why put chips in there when it could be bacon?
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Fuck that, I love a chip butty. Any excuse to consume butter, to be honest.
Whilst I appreciate the latter sentiment, why put chips in there when it could be bacon?
Fair point, but I really like chips. If I've bought some crap oven chips on offer to save a few quid, I can mask it with bread and butter. You know, really edge on the heart attack.
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
What has all this got to do with the Champions League? As you know, I’m a stickler for staying on topic. Can you start a Bowie piss/chip butty thread where all those who want to discuss them can post to their hearts’ content?
Thank you.
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
What has all this got to do with the Champions League? As you know, I’m a stickler for staying on topic. Can you start a Bowie piss/chip butty thread where all those who want to discuss them can post to their hearts’ content?
I see what you did there.
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
Red peppers, I'm pretty sure.
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We had a discussion in the pub yesterday as to whether Blamcmange belonged in trifle.
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We had a discussion in the pub yesterday as to whether Blamcmange belonged in trifle.
I’m assuming any heathen suggesting it was barred from the pub?
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
Red peppers, I'm pretty sure.
It's not the side-effects of the cocaine, I'm thinking that it must be love
It's too late to be grateful, it's too late to be late again
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Had a friend in Edinburgh who basically lived off tattie scone rolls that he called 'the carb on carb'.
That must be where Bowie went wrong with his green peppers, milk and coke diet in 1974. He left his wee in the refrigerator too.
Red peppers, I'm pretty sure.
It's not the side-effects of the cocaine, I'm thinking that it must be love
It's too late to be grateful, it's too late to be late again
You can always be relied upon to station yourself as the lyric king; and good on yer!
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We had a discussion in the pub yesterday as to whether Blamcmange belonged in trifle.
Although, in general, trifle belongs in the bin.
1950s style "it's all we've got, we're still under rationing" rubbish.
Like beef dripping or lard.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
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Just looking on ticket maestro for CL tickets. You can get up to five tickets per household for the Juventus and Celtic games. While we might be baulking at the prices Celtic fans won't care for a one off game. This has the potential to be very tasty in the stands if the club aren't careful.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Can you still get that oop norf?
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
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Beef dripping on hot toast - yum
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
Interesting, I'd go Goose Fat but I'm prepared to be persuaded.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Can you still get that oop norf?
Of course!
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
Interesting, I'd go Goose Fat but I'm prepared to be persuaded.
You have to buy goose fat though. I just scrape up the fat if I cook a joint of beef and use it for the roast potatoes the following week.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
Interesting, I'd go Goose Fat but I'm prepared to be persuaded.
You have to buy goose fat though. I just scrape up the fat if I cook a joint of beef and use it for the roast potatoes the following week.
Nah, I just boil a goose.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
Interesting, I'd go Goose Fat but I'm prepared to be persuaded.
You have to buy goose fat though. I just scrape up the fat if I cook a joint of beef and use it for the roast potatoes the following week.
I'd go dripping over goose fat anyway. Goose fat makes them crispier, but dripping gives a much better flavour.
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I'd go dripping over goose fat anyway. Goose fat makes them crispier, but dripping gives a much better flavour.
Same.
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I like them crispy.and crunchie... But now I want roasts for my lunch.
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Hang on. You'd put beef dripping in the bin?
I refuse to believe that's what you meant, because perfect fish and chips can only be made with beef dripping.
Roast potatoes as well.
Interesting, I'd go Goose Fat but I'm prepared to be persuaded.
You have to buy goose fat though. I just scrape up the fat if I cook a joint of beef and use it for the roast potatoes the following week.
I'd go dripping over goose fat anyway. Goose fat makes them crispier, but dripping gives a much better flavour.
How about a shared ratio?
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I don't like roast potatoes but I use bat jism and hydrocortisone cream when I do them.
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The threads gone!
Can we savour the taste of champions league and maybe have an off topic section for the above recent foodie posts.
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The threads gone!
Can we savour the taste of champions league and maybe have an off topic section for the above recent foodie posts.
Never mind savouring that, I'm looking forward to the Celtic fans handing out tattie scones in the stands.
While we might be baulking at the prices Celtic fans won't care for a one off game. This has the potential to be very tasty in the stands if the club aren't careful.
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I don't like roast potatoes but I use bat jism and hydrocortisone cream when I do them.
Hmmm, the latter probably explains the former.
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(https://i.ibb.co/XYkqzCR/hgfhgfgf.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XYkqzCR)
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
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Has anyone got their Bologna ticket come through yet?
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Has anyone got their Bologna ticket come through yet?
They’re not released until the 18th?
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Ah, that'll be why then! I was sure I'd paid for something, but have been spending money hand over fist this month.
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The threads gone!
Can we savour the taste of champions league and maybe have an off topic section for the above recent foodie posts.
But then Footie you won't be able to enjoy it.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Site called Ticket Maestro. Seems legit paid by PayPal and as I say he's got no buying history and no fan id.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Site called Ticket Maestro. Seems legit paid by PayPal and as I say he's got no buying history and no fan id.
It does look ok and it's a site where fans can resell tickets . Nothing to do with the club so the ramifications fall on whoever put there seat up for sale on this platform
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
I’ve heard of a midfield maestro, Sid Cowens is a good example but never ticket maestro.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
That could get interesting if Celtic fans get on board. I had a Hibernian fan next to me in the Upper Trinity in the game last year, and a bunch of Legia Warsaw in front of us(who got chucked out when they scored) a few weeks later.
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One quick look at trustpilot tells me fake reviews are being left for this website. Not that I'd be trusting it anyway.
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There's a lot of 5* reviews from people who haven't reviewed anything else.
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https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/ticket-maestro.com
I don't really understand why you'd buy GA tickets off a 3rd party site when Villa haven't put them on sale yet.
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They’re also flogging tickets in the ‘away section’ for the Rangers v Celtic game at Ibrox in Jan, but Celtic aren’t getting an away allocation for that game.
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It's outside the ground, you have to take your own ladder.
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https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/ticket-maestro.com
I don't really understand why you'd buy GA tickets off a 3rd party site when Villa haven't put them on sale yet.
Yeah, it isn't the greatest idea.
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Has anyone got their Bologna ticket come through yet?
They’re not released until the 18th?
That will be the email , containing the ticket ?
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
I’ve heard of a midfield maestro, Sid Cowens is a good example but never ticket maestro.
Unai Emery is El Maestro
There's a book as well Unai Emery El Maestro: the Authorised Biography by Romain Molina
I surprised I'm the only one who ever refers to Unai as El Maestro.
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https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/ticket-maestro.com
I don't really understand why you'd buy GA tickets off a 3rd party site when Villa haven't put them on sale yet.
Because people are desperate to see their team playing in the Champions league I guess. Not everyone has a season ticket or can afford the extortionate GA+ packages that Heck is peddling.
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They’re also flogging tickets in the ‘away section’ for the Rangers v Celtic game at Ibrox in Jan, but Celtic aren’t getting an away allocation for that game.
Imagine turning up for that, full on Celtic Kit draped in a Tricolor, "can you be showing me to the away end please" :(
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They’re also flogging tickets in the ‘away section’ for the Rangers v Celtic game at Ibrox in Jan, but Celtic aren’t getting an away allocation for that game.
Imagine turning up for that, full on Celtic Kit draped in a Tricolor, "can you be showing me to the away end please" :(
Haha, brilliant!
You do see some sights up there.
I remember walking round Greenock, quite early on match day, on my way to the local Celtic Supporters Club before making our way to Glasgow. Saw a bloke in a bright orange suit and Union Jack socks.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
I’ve heard of a midfield maestro, Sid Cowens is a good example but never ticket maestro.
Unai Emery is El Maestro
There's a book as well Unai Emery El Maestro: the Authorised Biography by Romain Molina
I surprised I'm the only one who ever refers to Unai as El Maestro.
Personally I'd never trust anything containing the word 'Maestro'....my old man worked at Longbridge and I still carry the mental baggage today...
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
I’ve heard of a midfield maestro, Sid Cowens is a good example but never ticket maestro.
Unai Emery is El Maestro
There's a book as well Unai Emery El Maestro: the Authorised Biography by Romain Molina
I surprised I'm the only one who ever refers to Unai as El Maestro.
I'm not.
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Celtic fans could be banned from Villa Park. Celtic have been fined €20,000 by UEFA's Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body for a small number of individuals' use of pyrotechnics in the away end for their away match at Borussia Dortmund on October 1.
As this is not the first time they have been punished for the same offence in Europe, they note: "If such behaviour is repeated at a match in the next two years, the club will be prevented from selling tickets to supporters for one away match in UEFA club competitions."
So ultimately Celtic have two other away fixtures before coming to Villa Park on January 29, 2025, meaning their supporters run the risk of having a ban placed on them for that meeting.
Celtic add: "The club has been very clear, over a number of years, that the use of fireworks and pyrotechnics at matches is prohibited, and presents risks to supporter safety and to the club under the applicable regulations.
"It is hugely disappointing, therefore, that the conduct of a very small minority has led to this decision, which could potentially have such a negative and damaging impact on the team and Celtic supporters wishing to attend an away match to support the team."
Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant, but if they try any any pro IRA chants
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant
Talking of this chant, which the Irish also sung with gusto the other week, I don't really understand the point or what they think it celebrates? She was nearly 100, it was time for her to be "in a box". However, the whole point in monarchy is that it remains a constant and is passed down, so it's not really the win they think it is.
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant
Talking of this chant, which the Irish also sung with gusto the other week, I don't really understand the point or what they think it celebrates? She was nearly 100, it was time for her to be "in a box". However, the whole point in monarchy is that it remains a constant and is passed down, so it's not really the win they think it is.
Living in a Box by Living In a Box on internal jukebox now.
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant
Talking of this chant, which the Irish also sung with gusto the other week, I don't really understand the point or what they think it celebrates? She was nearly 100, it was time for her to be "in a box". However, the whole point in monarchy is that it remains a constant and is passed down, so it's not really the win they think it is.
It's a Celtic/Rangers thing , they are still fighting The Battle of the Boyne
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This popped up on my feed. Thought it was worth posting in here.
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It's a football chant not a manifesto, it doesn't get proof read and edited for consistency.
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In their heeeeads
In their heeeeads
Rent free
Rent free
Rent free
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I guess it's had the intended impact on those who care.
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant, but if they try any any pro IRA chants
Provisional IRA or 'Old' IRA?
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant, but if they try any any pro IRA chants
Provisional IRA or 'Old' IRA?
If we had more chants about the Continuity IRA, I think we'd all be in a better place.
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We laughed at the Hibs fans above us when a few started singing about "Lizzie being in a box". All very 80s and 90s singing about dead people at the football, move on lads, move on.
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant, but if they try any any pro IRA chants
Provisional IRA or 'Old' IRA?
If we had more chants about the Continuity IRA, I think we'd all be in a better place.
"Come out ye Ipswich fans,
come out and fight me like a man!"
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Personally, I am not bothered about Hoops fans trotting out their "lizzies in a box" chant, but if they try any any pro IRA chants
Provisional IRA or 'Old' IRA?
If we had more chants about the Continuity IRA, I think we'd all be in a better place.
"Come out ye Ipswich fans,
come out and fight me like a man!"
"Hello, Hello, We are the Tractor Boys!"
*In the interests of balance.
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The armoured cars and tanks and guns
came to take away our sons
but every man must stand behind
the men behind Keiron Dyer.
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Haha!
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The armoured cars and tanks and guns
came to take away our sons
but every man must stand behind
the men behind Keiron Dyer.
:)
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I'm glad you've brought it our attention, no one's mentioned it before.
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I'll be wearing my best fighting culottes.
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I'll be wearing my best fighting culottes.
Yes but what with them? Wedges or sling backs, I can't decide.
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
Welcome back to planet earth Martyn 😁
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I'll be wearing my best fighting culottes.
Good choice, they can be flattering if you're curvy.
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I shall be roaming round the bull ring with a silk Villa scarf tied around my wrist
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
I believe villa are South Stand 421 & 422. I’ll be sitting on my hands in 423.
I’ve got my hands on a seat on 423 too. Just need to brush up on my Dutch
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This popped up on my feed. Thought it was worth posting in here.
That’s wonderful, Somniloquism.
I love the view from the bus coming up to the Council House and the mad groups of fans on top of various roofs, especially the conga line, which I’ve seen before, but which looks even more precarious in this film.
The interviews in the dressing room are great, as well.
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This popped up on my feed. Thought it was worth posting in here.
That’s wonderful, Somniloquism.
I love the view from the bus coming up to the Council House and the mad groups of fans on top of various roofs, especially the conga line, which I’ve seen before, but which looks even more precarious in this film.
The interviews in the dressing room are great, as well.
My pal was in the conga line. They had a ‘C/WOOD’ VILLA’ flag which caused a few knobhead Blosers from Chelmsley going round the pubs trying to find out who’s it was.
Edit: just watched the video. Flag said CHELMSLEY WOOD. My memory playing tricks on me.
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This popped up on my feed. Thought it was worth posting in here.
That’s wonderful, Somniloquism.
I love the view from the bus coming up to the Council House and the mad groups of fans on top of various roofs, especially the conga line, which I’ve seen before, but which looks even more precarious in this film.
The interviews in the dressing room are great, as well.
My pal was in the conga line. They had a ‘C/WOOD’ VILLA’ flag which caused a few knobhead Blosers from Chelmsley going round the pubs trying to find out who’s it was.
Edit: just watched the video. Flag said CHELMSLEY WOOD. My memory playing tricks on me.
Yes, ‘Chelmsley Wood’ on a Villa banner has always been a bit of a surprise!
Nice, though 😃
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There's a few Villa in The Wood.
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This popped up on my feed. Thought it was worth posting in here.
That’s wonderful, Somniloquism.
I love the view from the bus coming up to the Council House and the mad groups of fans on top of various roofs, especially the conga line, which I’ve seen before, but which looks even more precarious in this film.
The interviews in the dressing room are great, as well.
My pal was in the conga line. They had a ‘C/WOOD’ VILLA’ flag which caused a few knobhead Blosers from Chelmsley going round the pubs trying to find out who’s it was.
Edit: just watched the video. Flag said CHELMSLEY WOOD. My memory playing tricks on me.
We are not allowed to drink in the city centre,so where would they like us to drink, absolutely disgusting
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
I shall be roaming round the bull ring with a silk Villa scarf tied around my wrist
I am getting the coach to the Villa and avoiding any family pubs
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There's a few Villa in The Wood.
We’ll have taken over when my generation is gone. Most of the population from kids up to a few years younger than me are Villa. It’s especially noticeable at kids’ football training. Villa tops everywhere.
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Really hope we can make 3 wins out of 3 here. That would put us in a excellent position
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Just noticed that SHA are at home the same night as we are at home to Bologna. At home the same time as we are hosting a team from abroad. I can't see any potential for trouble there
Expect to hear, We sold out for a league one game while vile can't sell out for champions league.
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Really hope we can make 3 wins out of 3 here. That would put us in a excellent position
Potentially top of the league .
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We’ve earned €42m in prize money so far this season apparently.
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Fucking Hell, that Wycombe game was bigger than I thought.
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We’ve earned €42m in prize money so far this season apparently.
Just from the Champions League? It sounds a bit high!!
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We’ve earned €42m in prize money so far this season apparently.
Just from the Champions League? It sounds a bit high!!
Yep. Most of that is the prize money that everybody who qualifies gets. We’re looking at another €25m if we get to the knockouts.
https://x.com/fmeetsdata/status/1848018180536422609?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
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Looks like we need 16 points to guarantee top 8 according to simulations. 9 points tomorrow will be excellent. Not sure what to make of Monaco and Leipzig so far.
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Beat Bologna and all of a sudden nobody will fancy playing us, and they will no doubt be aware of our away form. Emery is a master of European ties, he is the ace up our sleeve. And the opposition will be thinking...hang on..if they can beat Bayern..
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
I believe villa are South Stand 421 & 422. I’ll be sitting on my hands in 423.
I’ve got my hands on a seat on 423 too. Just need to brush up on my Dutch
We should try to link up. Will DM you.
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What section are you in, purple?. Four of us are in 413
I believe villa are South Stand 421 & 422. I’ll be sitting on my hands in 423.
I’ve got my hands on a seat on 423 too. Just need to brush up on my Dutch
We should try to link up. Will DM you.
That would be good.
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It was asked before what are the dates for Juventus ticket sales
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Monaco 1-0
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Monaco 1 - 1
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Monaco 1 - 1
Smallish crowd also, in the Casino I'd imagine.
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It was asked before what are the dates for Juventus ticket sales
I need to know this too. If someone would be so kind.
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Monaco CB's pretty aggressive, Watkins beware
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Club have been consistent in start selling tickets 4 weeks before the game so expect Juve will be Monday 28/10.
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So when do the difficult matches start?
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So when do the difficult matches start?
Saturday 😉
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So when do the difficult matches start?
When Mrs Risso introduces one of her friends to me.
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Looks like we need 16 points to guarantee top 8 according to simulations. 9 points tomorrow will be excellent. Not sure what to make of Monaco and Leipzig so far.
15 points gets you top 8 in 73% of cases, apparently. So taking three points each from the Brugge and Celtic games, where I think we'd expect to win, should be enough.
Is there any advantage however to finishing high up in the top 8? Top versus 8th, for example.
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I think there's been some suggestion that later rounds will be seeded based on league finish, though I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere.
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Think we will finish on 17 points.
Celtic and Bruges 6
Others 2
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I believe they used to pair 1st place finishers with other groups 2nd place finishers with the coveted home second leg going to the 1st placed winners.
So I suspect something similar for the top 8 being given home leg advantage against the qualifying round winners. The only question is will they also avoid teams who have played each other once already / same association like last time. I suspect the former will be harder to do.
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Sorry, yes. It is guaranteed that the top eight will have home advantage in the second legs, and be seeded to play against the round of twenty-four winners, in the last sixteen. I'm not sure whether there is any seeding in the quarter-finals and semi-finals or if it's just open draw, as it has always been previously.
Also teams finishing 9th-16th will have home advantage in second leg, and be seeded to play teams that finish 17th-24th, in the round of twenty-four.
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Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage. Tough ask but would be great
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I fear no team now we are back to a full squad. Will be interesting to see the outcome of the Barca v Bayern fixture tonight.
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I fear no team now we are back to a full squad. Will be interesting to see the outcome of the Barca v Bayern fixture tonight.
I'm utterly dismissive of all but about 3 teams these days.
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Only benfica & liverpool can get ahead of us tonight now
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Only benfica & liverpool can get ahead of us tonight now
Just about to post this!
Incredible to think that we may top the thing after 3 games.
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Benfica losing too
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Only benfica & liverpool can get ahead of us tonight now
Just about to post this!
Incredible to think that we may top the thing after 3 games.
And we are!!!
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Absolutely stunning achievement so far by Unai and the Villa lads!
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Fuck, this is insane.
Two years ago this week, look where we are now.
It just defies belief.
Although, we, in the span of 15 years went from Division 3 to Division 1, winning 2 league cups along the way, were champions of england, champions of europe, and then relegated again.
I have said this before, but that is surely the greatest 'rollercoaster' ride of an English side ever.
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Just watched Champions league motd and I wish I didn't. Barcelona look amazing and Real Madrid incredible going forward although Dortmund did go two up.
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I think we’ll need a few more goals, so hopefully Unai will work on a bit of effective finishing!
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Just watched Champions league motd and I wish I didn't. Barcelona look amazing and Real Madrid incredible going forward although Dortmund did go two up.
And who are top of the league?
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Barcelona and Real Madrid are only doing okay because they bribed the "computer" to avoid drawing Villa, the absolute shitebags.
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I think we’ll need a few more goals, so hopefully Unai will work on a bit of effective finishing!
I have a feeling Rogers is going to have a breakout goalscoring season at some point and then just be amazing. Maybe not this season, but soon.
Cristiano Ronaldo only scored a handful of goals in his early Man U seasons. I'm not saying he'll be as good as Ronaldo... but he's getting better and better all the time. The next step is moving from a 5-10 goals a season player to one who scores 15-20 or even more.
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No one will fancy playing us, especially at Villa Park
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
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I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
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That would be marvellous for him and for Villa, cd, bring it on! To be fair, we have a fair few players who have scored in PL games, and SJM knocked one in last night as well, so perhaps we have more resources in that respect than I remembered, when I wrote that.
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory, Hookeysmith!
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Just watched Champions league motd and I wish I didn't. Barcelona look amazing and Real Madrid incredible going forward although Dortmund did go two up.
And who are top of the league?
According to the BBC, there are 3 English teams up there, Dave! ;)
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England are currently well out in front for top 5 CL qualification next season.
90 points compared to 78 for Italy, 72 for Spain and 79 for the Deutsch.
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It's not out of the question for us to win it. Obviously the pathway will get difficult in the knock out stages, but no one gave us a prayer of winning it in 1982! The omens are good having beaten Bayern Munich 1-0!
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This certainly beats the "we go again" days.
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This certainly beats the "we go again" days.
And 'we can't compete with the Charltons of this world"
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"Another one!" > "We go again"
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We’ll be there or thereabouts
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This certainly beats the "we go again" days.
And 'we can't compete with the Charltons of this world"
😂
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England are currently well out in front for top 5 CL qualification next season.
90 points compared to 78 for Italy, 72 for Spain and 79 for the Deutsch.
I thought that last season this was done only look at the results of the previous season? Your stats seem to be a measure over 3 or 4 seasons. Have they changed the criteria?
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England are currently well out in front for top 5 CL qualification next season.
90 points compared to 78 for Italy, 72 for Spain and 79 for the Deutsch.
I thought that last season this was done only look at the results of the previous season? Your stats seem to be a measure over 3 or 4 seasons. Have they changed the criteria?
You are probably correct. I was looking at the bold number. There are a lot of smaller countries higher who only have one or two teams in it so the split is lower, but looking at the big five it still falls into England's favour.
England: 3.857 (7 teams)
France : 3.357 ( 7 teams but one team already knocked out so not earning points).
Germany : 3.000 (but divided over 8 teams, not 7)
Italy : 2.750 (but divided over 8 teams, not 7)
Spain : 2.285 (7 teams)
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This certainly beats the "we go again" days.
And 'we can't compete with the Charltons of this world"
Also, "I thought we were outstanding"
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England are currently well out in front for top 5 CL qualification next season.
90 points compared to 78 for Italy, 72 for Spain and 79 for the Deutsch.
I thought that last season this was done only look at the results of the previous season? Your stats seem to be a measure over 3 or 4 seasons. Have they changed the criteria?
It is just calculated on this 24/25 season.
England have 53 points divided by 7 teams so our coefficient is 7.571.
Italy have 52 points / 8 teams = 6.500
Germany have 52 points / 8 teams = 6.500
Spain have 42 points / 7 teams = 6.000
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https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/seasons/?year=2025
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Something else we are currently top of. (although they haven't done last nights matches yet).
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/seasons/
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https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/seasons/?year=2025
https://www.footballseeding.com/uefa/country-ranking/2024-25/
I prefer this website as it counts those points already guaranteed but not yet officially allocated.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
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Juve game goes on sale Monday.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
Feels a bit like Newcastle are dropping out of that conversation to me. More like top three / next three / next three (with the last ones being Man Utd, Newcastle and Brighton).
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I was thinking the same.
Liverpool have not had the implosion I thought they would have from Klopp to Slot so we will have to hope either Arsenal implode instead with their self discipline or losing Rodri for a season starts affecting Citeh on the long term. Otherwise that is the top three.
I still think we are best of the rest but that depends on managing the squad better this season which we seem to be doing. Chelsea could easily self-sabotage or if they lose Palmer for any length of time........
And Spurs will Spurs it again.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
Eh ?
As Premier League winners, we will qualify anyway.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
Eh ?
As Premier League winners, we will qualify anyway.
Correct. We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking and ensure that no riff-raff like Tottenham or Man U qualify by finishing fifth. Ideally win each knock-out first leg by at least four so we can throw the second legs, too.
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Sorry, yes. It is guaranteed that the top eight will have home advantage in the second legs, and be seeded to play against the round of twenty-four winners, in the last sixteen. I'm not sure whether there is any seeding in the quarter-finals and semi-finals or if it's just open draw, as it has always been previously.
Also teams finishing 9th-16th will have home advantage in second leg, and be seeded to play teams that finish 17th-24th, in the round of twenty-four.
Had a look, from what I see, no real benefit finishing higher than 8th. Obviously, we're pretty well placed to get into that group, given our points on the board and the game or two where we feel we should pick up maximum points, especially Brugge and Celtic (that said, nobody will be fancy playing us right now, including Juve and the like). So if we can get over the line early, we can ease up a bit and focus on the league and domestic cups.
As things are shaping up, it looks like at least 3-4 big beasts will end up in the round of 24 playoff - PSG, Bayern, Juve, Real, Dortmund, Barça and Arsenal all outside the top 8 as things stand, though that list is likely to shrink as the matches progress over the coming months, I would guess. Assuming 1 of them gets knocked out in the round of 24, then of the 8 non-seeded teams, 2-3 seem likely to be big beasts - let's say 33%.
So roughly 2 in 3 times, we could expect to meet a very "playable" team against whom we would fancy our chances (say, Atalanta, Feyenoord, Lille, Sparta Prague), and 1 in 3 times, we would meet an "heroics required" big beast.
We can't be drawn against an English team in the round of 16, so if one slips up and fails to make it into the top 8 (which doesn't look likely at the minute), that would further reduce our chances of meeting a big player to something like 1 in 4 times.
After that, it's the quarters, and anything can happen.
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Lovely bit of work
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Sorry, yes. It is guaranteed that the top eight will have home advantage in the second legs, and be seeded to play against the round of twenty-four winners, in the last sixteen. I'm not sure whether there is any seeding in the quarter-finals and semi-finals or if it's just open draw, as it has always been previously.
Also teams finishing 9th-16th will have home advantage in second leg, and be seeded to play teams that finish 17th-24th, in the round of twenty-four.
Had a look, from what I see, no real benefit finishing higher than 8th. Obviously, we're pretty well placed to get into that group, given our points on the board and the game or two where we feel we should pick up maximum points, especially Brugge and Celtic (that said, nobody will be fancy playing us right now, including Juve and the like). So if we can get over the line early, we can ease up a bit and focus on the league and domestic cups.
As things are shaping up, it looks like at least 3-4 big beasts will end up in the round of 24 playoff - PSG, Bayern, Juve, Real, Dortmund, Barça and Arsenal all outside the top 8 as things stand, though that list is likely to shrink as the matches progress over the coming months, I would guess. Assuming 1 of them gets knocked out in the round of 24, then of the 8 non-seeded teams, 2-3 seem likely to be big beasts - let's say 33%.
So roughly 2 in 3 times, we could expect to meet a very "playable" team against whom we would fancy our chances (say, Atalanta, Feyenoord, Lille, Sparta Prague), and 1 in 3 times, we would meet an "heroics required" big beast.
We can't be drawn against an English team in the round of 16, so if one slips up and fails to make it into the top 8 (which doesn't look likely at the minute), that would further reduce our chances of meeting a big player to something like 1 in 4 times.
After that, it's the quarters, and anything can happen.
Bravo, a great little read.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
We need 6 points more than likely.
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Top 8 will be difficult, but now entirely possible. And you only have to look at the next round of fixtures to see that teams who might have expected top 8, or might still be expecting top 8, will be taking points off each other.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
Eh ?
As Premier League winners, we will qualify anyway.
Forgive AG he is but a youngster.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gapwr-3WcAAVXIQ?format=png)
Two wins and a draw from games against Brugge, Monaco, Juventus, Leipzig and Celtic more or less guarantees it. Taking nothing for granted, but we'll definitely go into three of those five games as favourites and nobody would be surprised if we got at least a point in the other two.
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With 5th likely to get CL next season, we probably need to finish above 2 of Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle in the "best of the rest" mini league. Which is where I see Villa at the moment.
That would likely guarantee 5th, Finish above all of them and we would likely come 4th again. At least.
Eh ?
As Premier League winners, we will qualify anyway.
Forgive AG he is but a youngster.
Haha. If only that were the case. :)
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It’s bloody ridiculous we’re having these discussions regards the latter stages of The European Cup.
Loving it.
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It’s bloody ridiculous we’re having these discussions regards the latter stages of The European Cup.
"We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches, are we one of the few teams good enough to get a bye straight to the round after that?"
It's just great.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
2 wins from the next 5 games will likely be enough. We have won 3 out of 3 so far.
What makes you think we will win a maximum of 1 of the next 5?
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Sorry, yes. It is guaranteed that the top eight will have home advantage in the second legs, and be seeded to play against the round of twenty-four winners, in the last sixteen. I'm not sure whether there is any seeding in the quarter-finals and semi-finals or if it's just open draw, as it has always been previously.
Also teams finishing 9th-16th will have home advantage in second leg, and be seeded to play teams that finish 17th-24th, in the round of twenty-four.
Had a look, from what I see, no real benefit finishing higher than 8th. Obviously, we're pretty well placed to get into that group, given our points on the board and the game or two where we feel we should pick up maximum points, especially Brugge and Celtic (that said, nobody will be fancy playing us right now, including Juve and the like). So if we can get over the line early, we can ease up a bit and focus on the league and domestic cups.
Sorry, yes. It is guaranteed that the top eight will have home advantage in the second legs, and be seeded to play against the round of twenty-four winners, in the last sixteen. I'm not sure whether there is any seeding in the quarter-finals and semi-finals or if it's just open draw, as it has always been previously.
Also teams finishing 9th-16th will have home advantage in second leg, and be seeded to play teams that finish 17th-24th, in the round of twenty-four.
Had a look, from what I see, no real benefit finishing higher than 8th. Obviously, we're pretty well placed to get into that group, given our points on the board and the game or two where we feel we should pick up maximum points, especially Brugge and Celtic (that said, nobody will be fancy playing us right now, including Juve and the like). So if we can get over the line early, we can ease up a bit and focus on the league and domestic cups.
There is an additional payout for finishing higher in the League I understand. About E275k per place.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
2 wins from the next 5 games will likely be enough. We have won 3 out of 3 so far.
What makes you think we will win a maximum of 1 of the next 5?
The evidence of being a supporter for the last 40 years. We barely stumbled to 5th last season because Spurs trippped up. We should beat Celtic in the last match but we have a tough home match vs Juve and then away matches.
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Was there something about the one away match that we've played already that suggested we shouldn't hope to win at least one of the other three?
It felt pretty comfortable to me.
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On a random sort of related tangent... I'm going to watch Feyenoord Vs AZ Alkmaar on the 2nd at De Kuip. Can anyone tell me which end Peter Withe scored at?
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It was against the team 35/36 in the table, are we able to play them again otherwise I do not see the relevance.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
2 wins from the next 5 games will likely be enough. We have won 3 out of 3 so far.
What makes you think we will win a maximum of 1 of the next 5?
The evidence of being a supporter for the last 40 years. We barely stumbled to 5th last season because Spurs trippped up. We should beat Celtic in the last match but we have a tough home match vs Juve and then away matches.
Lol.
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On a random sort of related tangent... I'm going to watch Feyenoord Vs AZ Alkmaar on the 2nd at De Kuip. Can anyone tell me which end Peter Withe scored at?
The stadium has been rotated I think, could be wrong.
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It was against the team 35/36 in the table, are we able to play them again otherwise I do not see the relevance.
And two of our remaining three away games are against the teams 26th and 31st in the table, who between them have lost five of their six matches.
That's the relevance.
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I think we should beat Brugge and Celtic, and can expect at least 3 points from the Juve/Leipzig/Monaco (however they come). 18 points would get us top 8 but I'd like to win every game to get as much as cash in as possible. No 'coasting' please.
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We should be able to play Crystal Palace and not lose by 5.
Look, I am being intentionally pessimistic because bitter experience has conditioned me not to expect anything and to only celebrate after the fact. Reading some posts on here and it sounds like some fans are booking hotels in Munich already.
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We should be able to play Crystal Palace and not lose by 5.
Look, I am being intentionally pessimistic because bitter experience has conditioned me not to expect anything and to only celebrate after the fact. Reading some posts on here and it sounds like some fans are booking hotels in Munich already.
I see you picked the game where we almost had to ask the crowd if they'd brought their boots, such was the injury list and level of player exhaustion for that final game at Palace.
That blip, in bizarre circumstances has no bearing whatsoever on our ability to beat the likes of Bruges and Celtic with the squad we currently have.
I haven't seen anyone talking about the final either. The discussion is about top 8 qualification which requires just 2 wins from the next 5 games.
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We should be able to play Crystal Palace and not lose by 5.
Look, I am being intentionally pessimistic because bitter experience has conditioned me not to expect anything and to only celebrate after the fact. Reading some posts on here and it sounds like some fans are booking hotels in Munich already.
They're not really.
They're just thinking that if all goes to form, we should manage to scrape seven points from fifteen from five teams all of whom are (on paper) not as good as us, having got nine from nine already.
And I understand the pre-conditioned pessimism. So if "a struggle" mean that we'll have to play well against the likes of Monaco and Leipzig to get anything and if we play like we did in the Ipswich game then we'll probably lose, then sure - no arguments.
But if "a struggle" means that the most likely outcome is three or four defeats from our last five games. Then no.
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Getting ahead of ourselves, just some quotes:
"I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory
Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage.
We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches
We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking
We’ll be there or thereabouts"
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Sorry, I hadn't realised I needed to label posts "I DON'T REALLY MEAN THIS".
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Getting ahead of ourselves, just some quotes:
"I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory
Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage.
We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches
We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking
We’ll be there or thereabouts"
Your gona look a right twat when Emi’s running around doing inappropriate things with the CL cup next May
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Sorry, I hadn't realised I needed to label posts "I DON'T REALLY MEAN THIS".
That would be most helpful, thank you!
Edit. I DON’T REALLY MEAN THIS.
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Getting ahead of ourselves, just some quotes:
"I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory
Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage.
We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches
We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking
We’ll be there or thereabouts"
Your gona look a right twat when Emi’s running around doing inappropriate things with the CL cup next May
It probably won't take as long as that.
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Look, I am being intentionally pessimistic because bitter experience has conditioned me not to expect anything and to only celebrate after the fact. Reading some posts on here and it sounds like some fans are booking hotels in Munich already.
Are booking? I think you'll find 'have booked' is more accurate. Obviously we won't book the flights till we get to the semi-final, we don't want to jinx things.
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Who do we fancy to win the Europa League? Hopefully one of the outsiders as we don’t want too tough a game for the Super Cup.
Wouldn’t mind Boca Juniors in the Intercontinental Cup.
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Getting ahead of ourselves, just some quotes:
These can be divided up as follows:
Obvious jokes:
I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking
Pretty bog-standard, giddy optimism of the sort that is inevitable when you are top of the whole ruddy Champions League after everyone has played three matches:
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory
Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage.
Maths and probability (there's a 99.7% chance that nine points is enough to finish in the Top 24, and we have nine points already):
We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches
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Wouldn’t mind Boca Juniors in the Intercontinental Cup.
Independiente for me, the Dibu Derby.
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I think its a pretty dumb take to suggest it's going to be a struggle to take 5 or 6 points from 5 games when we're better than all the sides left to play. Nearly as dumb as suggesting we only finished 4th because Tottenham were shit. That's an offensively dumb take.
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I think top 8 will be a struggle.
2 wins from the next 5 games will likely be enough. We have won 3 out of 3 so far.
What makes you think we will win a maximum of 1 of the next 5?
The evidence of being a supporter for the last 40 years. We barely stumbled to 5th last season because Spurs trippped up. We should beat Celtic in the last match but we have a tough home match vs Juve and then away matches.
I might ordinarily agree. But the Bayern win opened up a new path for us, and the defeat of Bologna (where we were ripe to fall flat on our faces, given our aversion last season to winning games that would put us top) confirmed it. Our ceiling is being raised before our eyes.
Maybe the banana skin is around the corner at Brugge, but I somehow doubt it. I also think that Juve, Leipzig, Monaco - all good teams - won’t much fancy playing us, what with our fully fit squad of 15 or so full internationals and assorted up and coming stars. So the odds favour our passage via the top 8, I’d say.
That was the starting point of my post, which was basically assessing the likelihood of drawing, say, Bayern in the round of 16. Which would be unfortunate.
Lastly, have you thought of changing your username? :D
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On a random sort of related tangent... I'm going to watch Feyenoord Vs AZ Alkmaar on the 2nd at De Kuip. Can anyone tell me which end Peter Withe scored at?
The stadium has been rotated I think, could be wrong.
The stadium had a roof added in the 90s but other than that hasn't changed. I'll ask the Feyenoord subReddit, they be able to figure it out.
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If your looking from the dugouts to the pitch it was the goal to the right obviously !!
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Getting ahead of ourselves, just some quotes:
"I've already booked my hotel for the Super Cup.
Anyone else dreaming that we could win this?
And I’m definitely dreaming of CL glory
Would be unbelievable if we remained unbeaten in group stage.
We've basically qualified for the next round of the Champions League already having played less than half our matches
We need to qualify as quickly as possible so we can deliberately lose our last few group games to mess up England's ranking
We’ll be there or thereabouts"
Your gona look a right twat when Emi’s running around doing inappropriate things with the CL cup next May
It would be my pleasure, by your logic the above posters would equally look twats if he doesn't.
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It would depend if your hot takes are tongue in cheek/jokes.
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I often find the people who post giddy optimism are the same ones who get angry and abusive when things don't go swimmingly. How do you live like that?
It seems like you can post things on this thread which when they turn out to be wrong you can claim you were only joking. So I will do that as necessary as we look to progress in this competition.
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It seems like you can post things on this thread which when they turn out to be wrong you can claim you were only joking. So I will do that as necessary as we look to progress in this competition.
So just to be clear, you believe that cd (I assume it was him) has actually booked a hotel for the European Super Cup Final next year in a city which still hasn't been announced?
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I often find the people who post giddy optimism are the same ones who get angry and abusive when things don't go swimmingly. How do you live like that?
At least they have the giddy highs to go along with the doom. Living in eternal pessimism doesn’t strike me as a particularly healthy mindset. Although it does mean you’re never let down. Deep.
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It seems like you can post things on this thread which when they turn out to be wrong you can claim you were only joking. So I will do that as necessary as we look to progress in this competition.
So just to be clear, you believe that cd (I assume it was him) has actually booked a hotel for the European Super Cup Final next year in a city which still hasn't been announced?
I mean, he used someone quoting Steve Bruce’s “we’ll be there or thereabouts” as an example of someone getting ahead of themselves.
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I often find the people who post giddy optimism are the same ones who get angry and abusive when things don't go swimmingly. How do you live like that?
At least they have the giddy highs to go along with the doom. Living in eternal pessimism doesn’t strike me as a particularly healthy mindset. Although it does mean you’re never let down. Deep.
I agree but being realistic and celebrating actual success is more balanced I find. Also I try an never get too down if we lose, it is meant to be a distraction from life's real travails.
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It seems like you can post things on this thread which when they turn out to be wrong you can claim you were only joking. So I will do that as necessary as we look to progress in this competition.
So just to be clear, you believe that cd (I assume it was him) has actually booked a hotel for the European Super Cup Final next year in a city which still hasn't been announced?
I mean, he used someone quoting Steve Bruce’s “we’ll be there or thereabouts” as an example of someone getting ahead of themselves.
I don't fact check every post and tend to try and take people on face value. Calling people liars isn't a great starting mindset.
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It’s a pretty famous quote that one of our managers said repeatedly over the course of 2 years. It’s also not a particularly outrageously optimistic thing to say. That was the problem.
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I often find the people who post giddy optimism are the same ones who get angry and abusive when things don't go swimmingly. How do you live like that?
It seems like you can post things on this thread which when they turn out to be wrong you can claim you were only joking. So I will do that as necessary as we look to progress in this competition.
So your hot takes are actually an antidote to people enjoying themselves?
Why not post what you think or actually feel- unless this is it, in which case I'm in awe of the depths you're plumbing. There must be Angler fish and the Bismark keeping you company.
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I often find the people who post giddy optimism are the same ones who get angry and abusive when things don't go swimmingly. How do you live like that?
To turn your question on yourself, re some of your revolting opinions on Hillsborough - how do you live like that?
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Can people please stop enjoying themselves when Villa win?
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I was thinking the same.
Liverpool have not had the implosion I thought they would have from Klopp to Slot so we will have to hope either Arsenal implode instead with their self discipline or losing Rodri for a season starts affecting Citeh on the long term. Otherwise that is the top three.
I still think we are best of the rest but that depends on managing the squad better this season which we seem to be doing. Chelsea could easily self-sabotage or if they lose Palmer for any length of time........
And Spurs will Spurs it again.
They (liverpool) have tougher games coming up now so now we will get a bettee idea of how good liverpool are.
They have a excellent squad though. They have so many attacking options its ridiculous
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From BBC:
Benteke still keeps across events in Europe and is delighted at how Villa have performed in this season’s Champions League.
"A huge club," the striker calls them. "With Liverpool it is more expected but Villa was my first team in England. The love is different. They haven’t been in the Champions League for a while so to see them playing well at Villa Park on a Tuesday or Wednesday is something nice."
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In the same article, Benteke named his debut goal at VP as his fave ever. I always thought he missed a trick with that one. From memory, he/someone else lobbed the Swansea goalie, and it was a simple tap-in for the Beast.
He had time though, to stop the ball on the line, bend down and do a piss-taking header with the ball on the ground, and just nudge it over the line with his noggin - that thing your Dad/bigger boys would do when you were a kid and you were being taught a footballing lesson.
I don't think I've seen this done in a professional game, so maybe it's against the laws but it would have cemented Benteke as our most cult figure since we had a Budgie in goal.
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I agree but being realistic and celebrating actual success is more balanced I find. Also I try an never get too down if we lose, it is meant to be a distraction from life's real travails.
Blimey! How do you live like that?
Football is all about the massive highs and desperate lows. Otherwise what’s the point?
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€3.30 a pint and drinking within sight of the pitch. Tickets to be picked up from a place called Lios. No hold backs.
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In the same article, Benteke named his debut goal at VP as his fave ever. I always thought he missed a trick with that one. From memory, he/someone else lobbed the Swansea goalie, and it was a simple tap-in for the Beast.
He had time though, to stop the ball on the line, bend down and do a piss-taking header with the ball on the ground, and just nudge it over the line with his noggin - that thing your Dad/bigger boys would do when you were a kid and you were being taught a footballing lesson.
I don't think I've seen this done in a professional game, so maybe it's against the laws but it would have cemented Benteke as our most cult figure since we had a Budgie in goal.
Yes, from memory, I think he missed a much easier chance before that.
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A question that's probably been answered before, but, assuming the PL coefficient means 5 CL places, would that still be the case if an English team wins the Europa League (and doesn't otherwise finish in the top 5)?
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It's 6 in that instance. Wasn't far off last season with Atalanta.
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Thanks.
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Sixth would also be enough if England gets the extra place, and an English team wins the Europa League and finishes exactly fifth. I assume the same if it happens with a Champions League winner but not sure as it was never a possibility last season.
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Sixth would also be enough if England gets the extra place, and an English team wins the Europa League and finishes exactly fifth. I assume the same if it happens with a Champions League winner but not sure as it was never a possibility last season.
I wonder what happens if arsenal won CL, united won europa, england get 5 CL spaces but both fall outside top 5 (wont happen esp for arsenal.) Is there potential for 7 teams? Or am i getting myself in a mess 😂
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Yes, seven teams is possible. But I don't think you can qualify by finishing seventh (unless you win the Champions League or Europa League). Not 100% sure though.
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This new format is certainly bringing out some shock results. Of course if the “big boys” get knocked out early, I’m fairly certain UEFA will revert back to the old format next season. They’re probably dreading a final of Monaco v Lille!!
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I'd imagine the TV rights depend on their promise of those extra matches, so I doubt it will revert.
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This new format is certainly bringing out some shock results. Of course if the “big boys” get knocked out early, I’m fairly certain UEFA will revert back to the old format next season. They’re probably dreading a final of Monaco v Lille!!
Im loving it. At first i thought this would be crap. But to see teams like city and madrid struggling it makes it even better
I reckon if this continue to happens in next few years wont take long till the big boys kick off and demand format changes or reverts back
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This format is set for at least 2024-2027. They can't change the format with a click of the finger
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That’s great as I prefer the new format but, just don’t think they were expecting these crazy results.
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The best thing about this format is the absence of second legs. Teams like us and Monaco etc can put everything into a performance and bank the rewards straight away.
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That’s great as I prefer the new format but, just don’t think they were expecting these crazy results.
Why wouldn't they? Lens beat Arsenal. Copenhagen and Galatasaray both beat Man Utd. Shakhtar and Antwerp both beat Barcelona. Newcastle beat PSG.
And all that was just last year.
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As expected with the new format Celtic have a great chance of at least the play-off, the old format teams like them had very little chance of anything but bottom place. I prefer this format even if we weren't in it.
Beating Man U was common place last season for everyone, well apart from one club.
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This format is set for at least 2024-2027. They can't change the format with a click of the finger
Great! Didnt know that
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If there is any consistency in the the scum teams from before not making it through then i would imagine the same scum teams will look again to breakaway.
Other teams are not meant to break their monopoly
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If there is any consistency in the the scum teams from before not making it through then i would imagine the same scum teams will look again to breakaway.
Other teams are not meant to break their monopoly
The funny thing is they have their "super league" yet most if they have been shit at it
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And in one fell swoop we are now 8th.
Pillocks.
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And in one fell swoop we are now 8th.
Pillocks.
Yep no one but ourselves to blame
All the good work like magic vanished
Just like the league go from 3rd to 6th.
Some of these players nedd to take a long look at themselves. Starting with bailey who has been garbage all season
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And in one fell swoop we are now 8th.
Pillocks.
Nah - Im back at the 4 games in, too early to look at the table stage.
Tbf - would still have bitten someones hand off at 8th after 4 games.
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Still in the top eight at the halfway stage. Two points ahead of Man City, Arsenal and Juventus, three clear of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and AC Milan and with a full five point advantage over Paris Saint-Germain.
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Thanks to mings error, if we lose to juventus in next game they can go above us if we lose to them in couple weeks.
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That was a major fuck up last night. Could have been comfortable of 12 points with pressure off for the remaining games. No we have to beat two of Juventus, an inform Monaco away, Leipzig away (hopefully they can stay shit as they have been so far), and a resurgent Celtic who will be likely after points.
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How things can flip so suddenly , still no idea what Mings is playing at , absolutely horrendous moment , not that we deserved anything from the game we were abhorrent
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I think we will end up in the play offs, looking at the remaining fixtures. Hopefully we can then get a decent draw and reach the last 16, which would excellent for our first season back and better than I expected.
Juventus L
Leipzig D
Monaco L
Celtic W
That's what I think we will do, and that will give us 13 points and a possible 12th/13th placed finish, meaning we would be seeded for the knock outs and play a team who finish around 20th, with the 2nd leg at Villa Park.
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I think we will end up in the play offs, looking at the remaining fixtures. Hopefully we can then get a decent draw and reach the last 16, which would excellent for our first season back and better than I expected.
Juventus L
Leipzig D
Monaco L
Celtic W
That's what I think we will do, and that will give us 13 points and a possible 12th/13th placed finish, meaning we would be seeded for the knock outs and play a team who finish around 20th, with the 2nd leg at Villa Park.
The worrying thing about play offs is that bayern, real and PSG could be in it. These teams will get better as tournament goes on. Man that defeat last night really has set us back
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You know, it hasn’t happened yet.
So, if you were to put:
Juventus W
Leipzig. W
Monaco. W
Celtic. W
You’d be a lot happier.
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You know, it hasn’t happened yet.
So, if you were to put:
Juventus W
Leipzig. W
Monaco. W
Celtic. W
You’d be a lot happier.
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Whilst Brugge was terrible there is a lot of over dramatics since then. Going into this campaign 3 wins 1 defeat form at half way everyone would have been extremely happy with that. If the loss had been vs Bayern instead of Brugge would there have been all this doom and gloom?
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It has been a good start to the campaign but expectations and recency bias are naturally causing some concern right now. Same with the Prem. Long old way to go this season and plenty more ups and downs to come.
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Whilst Brugge was terrible there is a lot of over dramatics since then. Going into this campaign 3 wins 1 defeat form at half way everyone would have been extremely happy with that. If the loss had been vs Bayern instead of Brugge would there have been all this doom and gloom?
Think its more the form and performances more than the one game tbh mate
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Whilst Brugge was terrible there is a lot of over dramatics since then. Going into this campaign 3 wins 1 defeat form at half way everyone would have been extremely happy with that. If the loss had been vs Bayern instead of Brugge would there have been all this doom and gloom?
Think its more the form and performances more than the one game tbh mate
yep 3 very poor performances in a week on the back of stupidly throwing points down the drain v Bournemouth and even before that some sub par performances (ManUre / Ipswich)
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Whilst Brugge was terrible there is a lot of over dramatics since then. Going into this campaign 3 wins 1 defeat form at half way everyone would have been extremely happy with that. If the loss had been vs Bayern instead of Brugge would there have been all this doom and gloom?
Think its more the form and performances more than the one game tbh mate
yep 3 very poor performances in a week on the back of stupidly throwing points down the drain v Bournemouth and even before that some sub par performances (ManUre / Ipswich)
I think had we won the Bournemouth game alot of us wouldnt be as concerned as we have been. Its been pretty bad the last 6
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The commentator in Bruges said he'd been speaking to Villa fans in the town and quite a few had alluded to some results papering over the cracks
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I’d have gladly given up our champions league place this season, as we have very little chance of winning it, in return for us winning the league cup & FA cup.
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I’d have gladly given up our champions league place this season, as we have very little chance of winning it, in return for us winning the league cup & FA cup.
I think we all would for the double
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I think we will need something in the last group game. We are not playing well the midfield must really start scoring some goals.
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I’d have gladly given up our champions league place this season, as we have very little chance of winning it, in return for us winning the league cup & FA cup.
Yeah but it doesn't work liked that, does it? We haven't qualified for the competition in 40 years and in that time all we won was two poxy League Cups.
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ApologIes but I’m old school when it comes to cups. I remember the thrill, at school, of the 3rd round FA Cup draw at lunchtime, on the radio. Best event of the season!
I also try to be realistic. Other than the prize money, we have little or no chance of winning the CL and Heck has priced me out of those matches even though I’ve been through the bad times as a season ticket holder and still am. The league cup, in particular, is the easiest one to win so why not go for it? Injuries will happen whether it be in the cups, league or even in training. We rested players and now the injuries are starting to pile up again regardless.
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Have a look at who has won 90% of the League and FA Cups for the past 20 years and have a re-think on why being in the Champions League is more important.
The only way I want to see a first a XI in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, is in the event we draw the Noses away.
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Have a look at who has won 90% of the League and FA Cups for the past 20 years and have a re-think on why being in the Champions League is more important.
The only way I want to see a first a XI in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, is in the event we draw the Noses away.
Exactly this.
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CL is very good financially for the Club. Not so much for me personally as am watching it on TV due to the pricing structure. However, Heck needs to make the most of this competition, if we progress so, don’t be surprised if we get a big name in the next round, for GA admission prices to be £125/£150.
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https://www.trybooking.com/uk/events/landing/70286?
Spotted this event advertised in Silhill Brewery in Hockley. An evening with champions... Gary Williams, Tony Morley and Des Bremner. Hosted by Pat Heard.
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Cup competitions are a lottery. I don't think you can 'prepare' for them in the same way you can with a league which is usually a lot more predictable. There's probably some data somewhere that coaches are aware of about risk of injury and fatigue vs ultimate reward (as in wining the actual cup) that justifies their decision to field weakened teams in early rounds of cup competitions.
The CL teams still win all the bloody cups because they have such strong squads (because they are regularly in the effin CL!).
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The path to winning cups regularly is to be knocking in and around Champions League places. Both cups have mostly been won by teams in that category.
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
Suprised its so low i thought leipzig had a 50k stadium
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
Suprised its so low i thought leipzig had a 50k stadium
Google says its 41,122
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
Suprised its so low i thought leipzig had a 50k stadium
Google says its 41,122
Thank you. So ots roughly same size as ours. I thought away fans get 10% or am i being overly optimistic?
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Looks like it was expanded in the last few years, 47,069. £15 a ticket was the interesting bit, no wonder Heck has gone into hiding....
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
How far do you think it will go down to?
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
How far do you think it will go down to?
Probably the second criteria, maybe the third, who knows.
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2200 tickets for Leipzig, 1700 standing options. On sale from tomorrow.
£13 quid to stand, on sale from noon. Only 4 aways so take out Mostar and Alkmaar and you're potentially left with a minimum pool of 1700, as Warsaw was the next smallest allocation.
Print at home format, which is good as the queuing was woeful at Bruges.
How far do you think it will go down to?
Probably the second criteria, maybe the third, who knows.
Thanks
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If anyone fancies going the club are running a day trip - £474.00 - you only need to be a current season ticket holder
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Gone with 5.2 block for standing.
5.1 standing almost all gone. All the seating in 3.2 has gone. Guess they're holding some back. 5.1 and 5.2 standing largely gone.
Best availability is block 4 standing next to the seats, barely touched.
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My lad has purchased 3 tickets for the Celtic game this morning in the Trinity Lower. No fan id asked for.
Where from out of Interest as Villa are not selling them currently
Ticket Maestro
Not ideal (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0mx0gxzx3o)
A Scottish man whose identity was stolen to front a fake Premier League football ticket website says he is devastated that scammed fans believe he is responsible.
Ticket Maestro, which launched in July, claimed to be selling tickets to top football matches but the BBC has since heard from supporters who paid hundreds of pounds for tickets they never received.
A BBC Radio 4 You and Yours investigation found that Richard Russell was named on official documents as the boss of the online ticketing site without him knowing anything about it.
Mr Russell, 44, says his family address, near Stirling, is now being published online and disappointed fans are threatening to turn up to get their money back.
Ticket Maestro claimed to be selling tickets for fixtures in the Premier League, as well as certain matches in the Scottish Premiership and the Champions League.
It described itself as a "Trusted and Licensed Ticketing Partner" when the website was active.
Three months after it was set up, having taken thousands of pound in ticket orders, it disappeared.
A BBC investigation has revealed Ticket Maestro was not licensed to sell Premier League tickets, and doing so unauthorised is illegal.
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Looks like sold out in the 3rd round. Was surprised at only £13 at checkout so felt guilty and made a donation.
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6 left.
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The have put the official parking prices up for this match, Y International is now £15, another way get a few extra quid.
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The parking by where I park is £15.00 for a Premier League game
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Anyone got their ticketing download (emailed printable tickets for non-smartphone holders) yet for the Juventus match?
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I'd seen somewhere they're not being sent until after today's match.
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They didn't send Palace League Cup tickets until after the preceeding league game so I imagine they'll do the same with these. Seems sensible enough, less chance of people trying to get in using the wrong one and causing extra queues.
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Ours came through at 1555.
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We might as well enjoy it while we can as if this shit form continues we wont be playing it next season
Bring on juve!
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My ticket has just appeared on my app.
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Same
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Got mine emailed through
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We might as well enjoy it while we can as if this shit form continues we wont be playing it next season
Bring on juve!
And another one.
Christ, give it a rest.
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That one was three days ago 🙃
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Demitiri is as entitled to his opinion as anyone else. Forums would be pretty boring if we all posted the same thing.
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But all he does post is the same thing.
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Thanks skerra and i agree
I do not SE. You are just choosing what you want to see but i do not want to argue.
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been offered a ticket tonight . Cant wait
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Demitiri is as entitled to his opinion as anyone else. Forums would be pretty boring if we all posted the same thing.
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But all he does post is the same thing.
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A win tonight would send us 4th. A draw likely to put us back in the top 8.
There's a hell of a lot of good sides outside the top 8 and the play-offs would not be easy by any stretch.
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Demitiri is as entitled to his opinion as anyone else. Forums would be pretty boring if we all posted the same thing.
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We are all on the same side even if we don't always agree.
Come on the villains lets make it another famous CL night
But all he does post is the same thing.
I see what you did there 😂 good one
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Less of a forum, more like demitris mind toilet
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Corey, I am not sure what your issue is. I am just minding my own business so why you feel the need to start a argument you only know.
I am not interested. Keep your thoughts to yourself please. Thanks hun
UTV
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Crvena zvezda winning 5-1 against Stuttgart.
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Aston Villa are just the wrong side of the play-off place line at the moment although seven teams are on 10 points. A win against 0 points Leipzig is a must for us next match to help avoid the playoff and to almost ensure further matches. 25th (PSG) is 6 points behind at the moment.
As for extra place coefficient. England are second behind Portugal* as of tonight. Top three are:
Portugal 7.200
England 6.857
Poland 6.375
The big countries are well behind at the moment with Italy 8th on 5.750, Germany 10th on 5.125 and Spain 12th on 5.000.
* They have done really well being as only 5 teams are earning points, but it also helps that the total is only then divided by 5. But they are still fourth in total points from all teams beating Spain and France.
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Portugal and Poland, blimey!
Think we are now almost certain of finishing top 24 but be good to push on and get top 8 or at least ensure the home leg is second in the play off round.
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The €0.7m we get for last night draw takes the running total of what we've earned in appearance/prize money to €25.6m.
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Yeah i agree we need second leg at villa park. We usually do better when we home 2nd game.
Leizpig will look at us thinking they can get three points based on recent form but we should be targeting the same
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Need to WIN in Leipzig. I think we're starting to show glimpses of returning to form, and with a steady stream of games coming up, I think we could be back at it by the time we face the Germans.
With our squad, and how injury prone our key players seem to be at the moment (*Kamara, Ramsey, Cash, Konsa), we would benefit massively by finishing top 8 and avoiding those 2 extra games. 6 points out of 9 would have us finishing on 16pts, which the Opta computer predicts will be the threshold for finishing top 8.
I'd take Rogers out on Sunday - He's bang out of form, and each passing 90minutes is shattering what little confidence he has left. Give Buendia a run in the hole and push either McGinn (or Ramsey if fit) out wide left. I know people are questioning Buendia's ability, but he hasn't really had a decent run since returning, and he can't be any worse than Morgan at the moment!
Chelsea, Brentford and Southampton should be a nice few games to help him get back up to speed/prove if he has enough to compete.
UTV
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The Italian announcer on the PA made me laugh - and for the Bologna game. I wonder if we’ll get a Scottish equivalent for the Celtic game?
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The Italian announcer on the PA made me laugh - and for the Bologna game. I wonder if we’ll get a Scottish equivalent for the Celtic game?
I've heard charlatan's got the gig.
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Yeah i agree we need second leg at villa park. We usually do better when we home 2nd game.
Leizpig will look at us thinking they can get three points based on recent form but we should be targeting the same
Leipzig have lost all 5 Champions League games and haven’t won a game in a month either. They need to look within before looking at us. As should we.
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A win (preferably a win and a draw) in our two remaining away games should mean a win against Celtic would see us finish in the top 8.
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The Italian announcer on the PA made me laugh - and for the Bologna game. I wonder if we’ll get a Scottish equivalent for the Celtic game?
I was a bit confused as to why there were boos when the PA was in Italian?
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The Italian announcer on the PA made me laugh - and for the Bologna game. I wonder if we’ll get a Scottish equivalent for the Celtic game?
I was a bit confused as to why there were boos when the PA was in Italian?
It’s the sort of silly, harmless xenophobia that makes me chuckle.
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Harmless xenophobia? It's a nice idea.
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Harmless xenophobia? It's a nice idea.
That’s a much more succinct answer than the one I started to write and lost.
My best attempt was to think of it a bit like harmless adolescent cock jokes, in the right mood/spirit, funny.
Except that clearly that humour wasn’t from a childish/harmless place, and is ‘othering’.
I found it pretty embarrassing, file with singing on the Piss M’Lord about our alcoholic legendary player.
Any woke/PC boxes I’ve missed ticking?
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You're all right, mate.
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Harmless, as in no one was harmed. I found the humour in the pettiness and how pathetic it was. I assume no one hated the language and it was all pantomime.
If behind it was frothing racists who wanted to glass the stadium announcer, then yeah, it’s not funny.
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I found it pretty embarrassing, file with singing on the Piss M’Lord about our alcoholic legendary player.
Yeah, it didn't really endear us to others, creating a Little Englander image. I really thought we'd got beyond this.
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The desperation to qualify for Europe makes a mockery of the reaction to the announcements but it's nothing major just a bit cringe worthy (note: not cringe).
I love having the European visitors to our City, hearing the announcements at New St and in the ground, fans walking around like tourists, their noise in the ground. Certainly beats people from Brentford and Thornton Heath sitting in abject silence.
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Before the Bologna game, outside the away entrance on Witton Lane, a copper was shouting instructions to their fans in a wonderful Brummie/Italian hybrid language.
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Harmless, as in no one was harmed. I found the humour in the pettiness and how pathetic it was. I assume no one hated the language and it was all pantomime.
If behind it was frothing racists who wanted to glass the stadium announcer, then yeah, it’s not funny.
One usually leads to, or enables, the other.
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Yeah that’s well said. Talk to people who aren’t white and experienced racist abuse for the first time in their life or in decades in the days after the Brexit vote.
I’m not going to turn round and have a pop at folk like I’ve done when it was hissing/auschwitz stuff at Spurs years back, but it’s all part of the same normalising stuff. Yes enabling.
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I always thought you're allowed to be a bit racist to the Italians and the Germans because of Hitler/Mussolini, they gave up their right to be offended by voting in fascists.
* This is a joke, very poor maybe but I don't actually believe it. Much.
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Yeah that’s well said. Talk to people who aren’t white and experienced racist abuse for the first time in their life or in decades in the days after the Brexit vote.
I’m not going to turn round and have a pop at folk like I’ve done when it was hissing/auschwitz stuff at Spurs years back, but it’s all part of the same normalising stuff. Yes enabling.
But laughing at people’s xenophobia makes my world go around. “Harmless” was a poor choice of words. But as I say, the humour for me was in the stupidity of it.
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Is it not just a case of booing anything to do with the team you're playing? Like booing their players when the teams are read out? I wasn't there, so can't say either way, but football crowds on the whole aren't that well known for intelligent responses.
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My (mixed-race) kids were giggling at the Italian announcements. I pulled them, natch, and said ‘it’s a beautiful language’. They reckoned they were laughing at the squeaky voice rather than the fact he was speaking Italian.
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The first time it happened I thought it was amusing and a bit pantomime, like booing their players as Risso said, although their players never actually got booed. But as it went on, I was a bit ‘really’?? by the last announcement a few were getting really animated about their dislike of it. Get a grip and all that.
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Their players were booed from the off, but people quickly gave up as they appeared to try and bore us to death. Tedious cheating bastards.
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Is it not just a case of booing anything to do with the team you're playing? Like booing their players when the teams are read out? I wasn't there, so can't say either way, but football crowds on the whole aren't that well known for intelligent responses.
It was probably the tamest booing you're ever going to hear, it was definitely pantomime as there was clearly light hearted as there was no venom in the boos at all. I didn't take part in it as wouldn't have felt right with my missus being Italian but it I did chuckle every time though.
The offence in here is laughable tbh, you'd have thought it was booing on the levels of Delphs return when it couldn't have been further away from those levels.
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Well it could, because it needn't have happened.
What's laughable is making excuses.
'My best friend.....' etc.
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We've been booed most places, on ocassion when we sing, on the rare occasion announcements are in Anglais. Most of the time we're too drunk to notice. Who gives a shit, football is a big pantomime we care far too much about, it's not particularly deep.
I really, really hope the Noses beat Blackpool and we draw them away in the FA Cup. I fucking detest those ******. I'm also looking forward to mingling with friends who support them later at an engagement party. I don't plan on boing them all and calling them ****** at full blast like I would in January at Shite Andrews. Relax gentleman, real life isn't Twitter.
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I agree with ads
Its all part of football. You want villa park to be a intimidating place. Not booing for example how is that going to make villa park intimidating?
Obviously racism isnt acceptable in any form but booing isnt racism as we all know
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It's not racism. It's not xenophobia. It didn't matter whether they were Italian, German, Dutch or even English. In a keyed up at atmosphere as these Champions League games are, there's going to be booing. Pure and quite literal, theatrical engagement. As is the performative angst about it. As is the...and so on.
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Warning - check the website for Celtic ticket windows….most of the STH have to buy Tues-Fri THIS WEEK coming for a game at the end of January next year.
Loookng after the customers again Heck!
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Thanks for the heads-up. I am bloody skint this month!
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If you want evidence the club couldn’t give a shiny shite about the fanbase then this is it.
It’s appalling, 2 months before the game.
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Well it could, because it needn't have happened.
What's laughable is making excuses.
Must be a sad life sitting around waiting and looking for things to get offended by.
I wasn't making excuses I was calling it what was and it was pantomime there was no malice at all.
"'My best friend.....' etc." I think we can all see the accusation you are throwing here. After considering my response after how offensive I've found that accusation I think you should wind your neck in
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If you want evidence the club couldn’t give a shiny shite about the fanbase then this is it.
It’s appalling, 2 months before the game.
I presume they're hoping people will buy GA tickets as christmas presents, but yes it's way too early.
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Someone reckons it’s in case we lose at Leipzig and Monaco and are stuck between 9th and 24th, thereby rendering the Celtic game pretty meaningless and Heck will then be struggling to shift GA+ and £94 GA tickets, especially with the play off round home leg only 2 or 3 weeks after that.
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Also changing the sales time to 0930, no chance I can be able to access this due to being in meetings throughout the day, been to every home European game so far as well
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Also changing the sales time to 0930, no chance I can be able to access this due to being in meetings throughout the day, been to every home European game so far as well
Did you not share your calendar with Villa Ticket Office?😊
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Warning - check the website for Celtic ticket windows….most of the STH have to buy Tues-Fri THIS WEEK coming for a game at the end of January next year.
Loookng after the customers again Heck!
This is what's passed me off personally,.
OK put the tickets on sale early but give us ST holders longer to secure ours. They could've given us till Christmas to purchase.
There's also possibility of an FACup game to fork out for in the next few weeks too.
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Watching the Kettering v Doncaster match. Very similar incident, arm into goalkeeper, as with ours v Juve. Foul also given in this match so probably not just foreign referees.
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Been on the website, can’t find the sale dates for Celtic. Can anyone link?
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Watching the Kettering v Doncaster match. Very similar incident, arm into goalkeeper, as with ours v Juve. Foul also given in this match so probably not just foreign referees.
I dont like this rule. It basically means you cant challenge a keeper at all. Also if a keeper makes a error like the juve game all u have to do is go into player and you get the foul
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Been on the website, can’t find the sale dates for Celtic. Can anyone link?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/november/29/Celtic-ticket-details/
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Juve nothing special this season. Near bottom of the table Lecce held them to a 1-1 draw tonight.
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Juve nothing special this season. Near bottom of the table Lecce held them to a 1-1 draw tonight.
It stopped the rot but in reality it wasnt a good result when you consider they have a host of injuries to key players. Im almost certain we would have lost if vlahovic was playing the way we are playing at hhe moment.
Sad times 🫥
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Juve nothing special this season. Near bottom of the table Lecce held them to a 1-1 draw tonight.
They’ve drawn 8 of their 14 league games this season.
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Been on the website, can’t find the sale dates for Celtic. Can anyone link?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/november/29/Celtic-ticket-details/
Cheers pal.
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Yep, same. Been on since 0930 it’s slow and only shown GA+.
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Yep, same. Been on since 0930 it’s slow and only shown GA+.
Showing normal tickets now, not that it’s accepting my payment!! Grrr
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Yep, same. Been on since 0930 it’s slow and only shown GA+.
Showing normal tickets now, not that it’s accepting my payment!! Grrr
Yeah, can select tickets but it takes aged to allow me to re-assign one to my lad
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Obvious question, but are you logged in? It doesn’t automatically do it. Just got mine, couldn’t find a pair together on the lower Holte though
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Obvious question, but are you logged in? It doesn’t automatically do it. Just got mine, couldn’t find a pair together on the lower Holte though
I was logged in, but only had GA+ at that time…prob Heck trying his luck.
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Obvious question, but are you logged in? It doesn’t automatically do it. Just got mine, couldn’t find a pair together on the lower Holte though
Yeah logged in. Not processing payment though.
There were a few seats together in K3
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Obvious question, but are you logged in? It doesn’t automatically do it. Just got mine, couldn’t find a pair together on the lower Holte though
Yeah logged in. Not processing payment though.
There were a few seats together in K3
Having same issue!
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Website isn’t showing any other ticket options apart from GA+ for me. Anyone else getting this?
Obvious question, but are you logged in? It doesn’t automatically do it. Just got mine, couldn’t find a pair together on the lower Holte though
Yeah logged in. Not processing payment though.
There were a few seats together in K3
Having same issue!
I’ve given up.
I’m out at work on my phone and can’t fuck around all day on that shite site!
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Worked after a few attempts. They don't make it easy ordering these CL tickets.
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Thanks for posting lads, flagged it up for me as I’d totally forgotten it was today. Got three together in the North in record time and minimal fuss. There was only three sets of three together that I could see though.
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This was the first time I’ve managed to get tickets sorted without tearing out clumps of my hair in frustration. That site really is shit! Not fit for purpose
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Worked after a few attempts. They don't make it easy ordering these CL tickets.
I must have tried 6 or 7 times. Then I got the fear that they’ll probably take all the payments at some point!
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It's a shit show every time
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Not sure why they put Leicester tickets on sale at the same time but they were pretty easy to get
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Yeah, went back in and got the Leicester tickets.
It is sooo slow and clunky. One quirk, on trying to buy my lads one, had error messages saying you need to assign it...but no option, you.have to go the the basket then the option appears. Really poor customer experience.
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Not just our club that has issues my mate has same issue for chelsea and another with spurs
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Bloody hell, the email they sent out last week didn’t, to my mind, make clear they were going to release the ST holders tix so quickly. So mines now gone.
Fuckers.
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They don't want ST holders taking up their tickets when they can get extra £ for them.
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I forgot about it until mid pm, but logged in and got 2 in L6 no probs, but couldn't get 2 together, so one behind the other.
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Not sure why they put Leicester tickets on sale at the same time but they were pretty easy to get
Thanks to Chico’s prompting I got my Celtic ticket easily but Leicester was only offering me corporate tickets and I’m not paying £120 for that
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I managed to get one early afternoon but it was more difficult than it should have been in accepting my payment. Unlike previous games it was a piece of piss actually getting on the site.
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An additional bonus for tonight, keeps the fifth place = Champions League next season coefficient ticking over but knocking Leipzig out also makes it harder for one of the obvious rival leagues.
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One more win and Real Madrid can't catch us. Which is nice.
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Looking at tomorrow’s fixtures you’d think Lille and Arsenal would win that would put them onto 13 points, the same as us but Arsenal will go ahead on GD.
Atletico, Benfica and Milan will move up to 12 points with a win which is likely.
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Barca/Dortmund draw will also put them both above us, and whoever wins in the Arse match will do, but whoever loses will need two wins going forward.
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The last games are all played together at 8pm
It going to be a rollacoaster.
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Celtic could be out by time we play them?
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We'll batter Celtic, if we need to or not.
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I think 8th will need 17 points. 2 more than the model predicted.
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I think 8th will need 17 points. 2 more than the model predicted.
I don’t. Next two rounds have lots of teams in the top 12 playing each other. Not everyone can get maximum points.
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After tonight, we’ll have a minimum of 4 games in this competition.
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A hypothetical "how the last sixteen would look based on current standings"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeeKhwIXsAAsquK?format=jpg)
Obviously lots will change, but *if* it happens, it's going to be very enjoyable watching PSG, Real Madrid and Man City slugging it out for the right to qualify for the round we're already in.
A last sixteen European tie against Man City would feel like a bit of a let down though.
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Any idea why the spots are interchangeable. Is there some rule in play for the Quarters (Not play a team from your league, not play a team you have played once already)?
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Also if we qualify for the round of 16 do we automatically get home 2nd leg ?
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Also if we qualify for the round of 16 do we automatically get home 2nd leg ?
Yes
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Any idea why the spots are interchangeable. Is there some rule in play for the Quarters (Not play a team from your league, not play a team you have played once already)?
Country protection is in place for the first knock-out, but from the round of sixteen it's gone.
ESPN has this:
How do the knockout rounds and the bracket work?
UEFA used to hold draws throughout the knockout rounds, but the new method of using the league ranking to build the bracket means just two are required: one for the knockout phase playoffs (Jan. 31), and another for the round of 16 (Feb. 21) to complete the bracket.
There is no country protection, so for instance, Liverpool could play Aston Villa in the round of 16. In past seasons, country protection remained in place until the quarterfinals.
The strength of teams in the expanded tournament means some heavyweight teams are likely to miss out on the top eight, and that could create some blockbuster ties early in the knockout stage.
(https://a.espncdn.com/photo/2024/0825/seeds_placement_0825.jpg)
The first draw on Jan. 31 creates the knockout phase playoff fixtures, with each team having two possible opponents, and places the game into the bracket.
Clubs ranked 9-16 play the second leg at home. From this point, the position in the bracket is set for these teams.
At the end of the league phase the top eight clubs will each have four possible round-of-16 opponents, based upon the build of the knockout bracket. They will play the second leg at home in the round of 16.
The round of 16 draw on Feb. 21 will see the teams ranked 1-8 drawn into one of their two possible positions, which will automatically create a fixture against the relevant winners of the knockout phase playoffs, which will already have been completed. Clubs ranked 1-8 play the second leg at home.
And that's that, the Champions League knockout bracket is complete and on Feb. 21 all clubs will know who is in their half of the draw, and who they won't have to get past. A draw is conducted to determine which team plays the first leg match at home for the quarterfinals and semifinals.
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So if we finish 9th, we would play either the 23rd or 24th ranked team in last 24? If we finish 8th, we would play first or second highest ranked winner from last 24 in the last 16? Are they trying to make the draw less interesting?
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No country protection so you just know if we get through to final 16 we get liverpool and the 2nd leg will be at anfield. Its written in stars
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No country protection so you just know if we get through to final 16 we get liverpool and the 2nd leg will be at anfield. Its written in stars
Not if we finish in the top 8.
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I think 8th will need 17 points. 2 more than the model predicted.
I don’t. Next two rounds have lots of teams in the top 12 playing each other. Not everyone can get maximum points.
Someone on Reddit modelled the worst case scenario and puts 8th pace on 18 point.
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According to the boffins with their laptops, apparently the probability at this point is:
19 pts - 100%
18 pts - 99.9%
17 pts - 98%
16 pts - 64%
15 pts - 11%
Although when it started they had 16 points being enough in 98% of cases. So with how the matches have played out so far, it's increased the likely number of points needed. So 17 now feels quite plausible.
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It would be awful to get an English team in RO16. Obviously it would be great to be in RO16 full stop so all these things are relative but you know what I mean.
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I can't quite believe we're in a great position to be in top 8 though. Whatever the ups and downs of this season, the CL campaign has been mostly brilliant.
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According to the boffins with their laptops, apparently the probability at this point is:
19 pts - 100%
18 pts - 99.9%
17 pts - 98%
16 pts - 64%
15 pts - 11%
Although when it started they had 16 points being enough in 98% of cases. So with how the matches have played out so far, it's increased the likely number of points needed. So 17 now feels quite plausible.
It will be interesting how that changes after tonight's games if several of the matches end as a draw or if there is a standout winner in them.
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No country protection so you just know if we get through to final 16 we get liverpool and the 2nd leg will be at anfield. Its written in stars
Not if we finish in the top 8.
Fingers crossed mate
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Didn't realise Dortmund were playing Barca. Sod the draw. Stick one of them below us.
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Regardless of personal prejudices what are the best results for us in the games tonight
I can’t be arsed or capable of working it out
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I think an Arsenal - Monaco draw and one of Dortmund or Barca to win keeps us in fourth. Other than that it's just mid to lower table shit like Man City, Milan and Juventus.
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I think an Arsenal - Monaco draw and one of Dortmund or Barca to win keeps us in fourth. Other than that it's just mid to lower table shit like Man City, Milan and Juventus.
Ok thanks
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Basically all the results from earlier and current scores are bad.
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Think prefer juve win and that at least puts massive pressure on them
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An Arsenal win wouldn't be disastrous as they have 2 easyish games left. Munich and AC Milan could easily win their last 2 as well.
The good news is Lille still have to go away to Liverpool, Brest are home to Real, and Leverkusen and Atlético still have to play each other. It just feels unlikely atm that 16 points would be enough.
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Yep. 17 points minimum.
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Yep. 17 points minimum.
Let's just win our last two games then and do it with two points to spare.
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Would I be cynical, suspecting that Dortmund and Barcelona mmight be happily playing out a draw?
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Juve winning 1-0
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Would I be cynical, suspecting that Dortmund and Barcelona mmight be happily playing out a draw?
Given Barça have Benfica away and Atalanta at home in their last two games, I'd imagine they'd prefer to win tonight.
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Yep. 17 points minimum.
It's written in the stars that Mings picking up the ball will make the difference.
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Pep beginning to find out that having 99% possession means nothing unless you score a few goals!
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Barca take the lead. Back up to fifth. 'Mon Mon aco.
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Dortmund equaliser. Back down to sixth.
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Juve 2 up against Man City.
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Celtic play Young Boys at home next. Bottom and out of contention. An expected Celtic win will leave them on 12 points, meaning they will come to us already guaranteed a play off but probably no chance of automatic qualification.
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Jack and Douggie on the pitch together, in opposition. Shirt swap pre arranged?
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Yep. 17 points minimum.
Agreed. Too congested up here.
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Barcelona back in front in Dortmund so we're back up to 5th.
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Juve 2 up against Man City.
Man City play PSG(A) next. Man City are on 8 points, PSG are on 7 points in 25th place.
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Juve 2 up against Man City.
Man City play PSG(A) next. Man City are on 8 points, PSG are on 7 points in 25th place.
Lol, the proper big boys are finally back and these pair of no-marks fall to bits.
Kneel before our brick facade!!!
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Juve 2 up against Man City.
Man City play PSG(A) next. Man City are on 8 points, PSG are on 7 points in 25th place.
Glorious stuff.
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Next set of matches are going to be very interesting!
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This league is tight.
We just need to beat Monaco.
And then Celtic.
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5 more points would be great.
But we can only get 4 or 6.
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This league is tight.
We just need to beat Monaco.
And then Celtic.
I dont think we need to beat both to get top eight. Anyone figured out how many points needed to get top eight?
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This league is tight.
We just need to beat Monaco.
And then Celtic.
I dont think we need to beat both to get top eight. Anyone figured out how many points needed to get top eight?
After tonight
19 pts - 100%
18 pts - 99.9%
17 pts - 98%
16 pts - 64%
15 pts - 11%
14 pts - 0.3%
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Loving this new format, going to be a right scramble in January to finish top 8.
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so 4 points should pretty do it
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so 4 points should pretty do it
Hmm. Does that take account of goal difference???
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Draw in Monaco, then beat Celtic who more than likely will have nothing riding on this game.
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so 4 points should pretty do it
Hmm. Does that take account of goal difference???
If we get four points then our GD would only improve. The teams below us on twelve would have to win both so their GD wouldn't matter. As for the ones on 13 around us. If Lille improve their GD by at least 4 in games against Redscouse and Feynoord whilst only getting 4 points, then they fully deserve to be above us. And the same for Juve/Atalanta who need to win games against Benfica and Barca in their runs.
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This league is tight.
We just need to beat Monaco.
And then Celtic.
I dont think we need to beat both to get top eight. Anyone figured out how many points needed to get top eight?
After tonight
19 pts - 100%
18 pts - 99.9%
17 pts - 98%
16 pts - 64%
15 pts - 11%
14 pts - 0.3%
The problem with these % chance calculators is, as is shown by the fact that they change after every set of matches, that they're a load of bollocks.
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I like this much more than trying to calculate whether we can eke out enough points to finish above Wigan and QPR to stay up.
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Draw in Monaco, then beat Celtic who more than likely will have nothing riding on this game.
I would prefer to beat Monaco so they can't finish above us. If we only draw and Celtic expectedly beat Young Boys, they might want to win to finish above us in the table still as they could finish on 15.
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I like this much more than trying to calculate whether we can eke out enough points to finish above Wigan and QPR to stay up.
Very true
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I said 17 points at the beginning because, statistically, it was the most likely. The actual maths works out at a little over 2.1 points per game but it was very near to 17. I'm surprised they're giving 16 such a high percentage, I wouldn't be confident with that.
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Loving this new format, going to be a right scramble in January to finish top 8.
Yeah, with two games to go, that league is now starting to take shape, especially when you look at the teans who are now just 1 or 2 points out of the top 8.
I'm thinking we might have to win both our remaining games to stay in that top 8 now given how tight it is.
Think not getting at least a point in Bruges might be costly.
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The problem with these % chance calculators is, as is shown by the fact that they change after every set of matches, that they're a load of bollocks.
I would argue that although they change, they also get more accurate based on the data. 15/16 points was the initial cutoff point. As the matches have gone on and strange results like City and PSG only winning 2 of 6 games, or a defender picking up a ball passed to him by a keeper, then changes are made. (All those were because other lower teams picked up unexpected points).
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I've looked at the fixtures for the teams around us. By my reckoning I've got Liverpool on 24 points, Barca and arsenal on 19 then Dortmund, Bayern Munich and AC Milan on 18 points, so that's 6 teams and then us, Inter and Leverkusen on 17 with 2 out of those 3 going through on goal difference. Aggghhhhhh
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I said 17 points at the beginning because, statistically, it was the most likely. The actual maths works out at a little over 2.1 points per game but it was very near to 17. I'm surprised they're giving 16 such a high percentage, I wouldn't be confident with that.
If you look at the current table, 16 teams out of the of the top 19 could finish on 16 points based on permutations*. Obviously some are playing each other (us Monaco) but I can see why 16 still has a high percentage, but it will probably be on GD if any do.
*Only Liverpool already above it, and Atalanta/Juve on 11 can't.
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Whatever their position in the league of 36 at the time we play te time we play them, Celtic will not be approaching our game as if there isn't anything riding on it!
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Draw in Monaco, then beat Celtic who more than likely will have nothing riding on this game.
I would prefer to beat Monaco so they can't finish above us. If we only draw and Celtic expectedly beat Young Boys, they might want to win to finish above us in the table still as they could finish on 15.
They may play a weakened team as they have a tough trip to Motherwell 3 days later. :)
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Let’s just mash Monaco in their weird shopping centre roof top ground - and go from there.
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Loving this new format, going to be a right scramble in January to finish top 8.
Yeah, with two games to go, that league is now starting to take shape, especially when you look at the teans who are now just 1 or 2 points out of the top 8.
I'm thinking we might have to win both our remaining games to stay in that top 8 now given how tight it is.
Think not getting at least a point in Bruges might be costly.
Me too. Our approach in that game was all wrong. Felt like we played as if we would have been happy with a point, when we should have gone at it like we did last night. The three points were there for the taking v Brugge. I know they always are, I mean, we’re a much better team than them and we didn’t show enough drive or ambition.
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Dortmund keeper was rubbing tonight.
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Dortmund keeper was rubbing tonight.
Friction behind the scenes?
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Its tight it could even come to GD so its absolutely crucial we avoid defeat vs monaco. Do france get a winter break? As we will have a very busy xmas period as we know
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Its tight it could even come to GD so its absolutely crucial we avoid defeat vs monaco. Do france get a winter break? As we will have a very busy xmas period as we know
Annoyingly we are away on the Weds and Sat before playing Monaco on the Tuesday which is far from ideal.
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What happens with Jan signings and the Champions League? In the old format, the league section was over by now and so a natural break to allow for registering new players / removing injured ones. But now the league doesn't finish to mid-feb?
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Its tight it could even come to GD so its absolutely crucial we avoid defeat vs monaco. Do france get a winter break? As we will have a very busy xmas period as we know
Annoyingly we are away on the Weds and Sat before playing Monaco on the Tuesday which is far from ideal.
Ergh just looked it up
A EVERTON
A ARSENAL
A MONACO
As you said not ideal at all and it being arsenal as well wont be easy. We will certainly need to rotate for the last two of the three. Id consider getting illing jr back in January. A extra body that could help us
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What happens with Jan signings and the Champions League? In the old format, the league section was over by now and so a natural break to allow for registering new players / removing injured ones. But now the league doesn't finish to mid-feb?
I'd assume any Jan. signings wouldn't be eligible till the knockout phase. That would seem to be the easiest solution, but no idea if that's the case.
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Ahead of the knockout phase, clubs can register a maximum of three new players by 24:00 CET on 6 February 2025.
Any or all of the players from the above quota of three may have been fielded for another club in the qualifying phase, play-offs or league phase of the Champions League, Europa League or Conference League.
The overall limit of 25 players on List A remains, though, along with the quota of eight locally-trained players.
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Some new signings early in the window would be best then. They'd be available to play the league games while a couple get rested for the CL ones.
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So no cup tie?
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No, they got rid of cup tied rules a few years ago.
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No, they got rid of cup tied rules a few years ago.
One of the few good changes in recent years, the reasons for it ever becoming a thing had been made redundant with transfer windows anyway.
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Yeah, stupid rule. Also glad they got rid of the away goals rule (in the knockout round) which was another pile of shite.
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No, they got rid of cup tied rules a few years ago.
Ah, I didn’t know that.
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Yeah, stupid rule. Also glad they got rid of the away goals rule (in the knockout round) which was another pile of shite.
I disagree on that one, I liked the increased jeopardy.
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Yeah, stupid rule. Also glad they got rid of the away goals rule (in the knockout round) which was another pile of shite.
I disagree on that one, I liked the increased jeopardy.
Away goals rules was ridiculous
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Ridiculously ace!
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Yeah, stupid rule. Also glad they got rid of the away goals rule (in the knockout round) which was another pile of shite.
I disagree on that one, I liked the increased jeopardy.
It had its' time.
I think it was a nice relic from the old days when there was more mystery about teams but never understood extra time score as well counting. Meant home side was at a disadvantage.
With 2nd legs at homes of the teams which have done better in prior rounds extra time makes sense.
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How many times have we been knocked out of Europe on the away goals rule? Too many to mention, rightly binned and forgotten with white Blues and the black and white minstrels.
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'White Blues' lol, that word filter is still funny.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
Atleti and the utter fucking embarrassing Varteks and Helsingborg games. No thanks.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
The last round of games in the Champions League could be a bit like that. Lots of ina and outs of the top 8 and bottom 12 as the scores change. Top 8 especially, seeing as there's 1 point currently between 3rd and 12th. Are all final games on the same day?
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Can't think of many times in any Cup competitions where we've advanced due to away goals. Dynamo Berlin and Arsenal in the 1996 League Cup Semis.
Any others?
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
The last round of games in the Champions League could be a bit like that. Lots of ina and outs of the top 8 and bottom 12 as the scores change. Top 8 especially, seeing as there's 1 point currently between 3rd and 12th. Are all final games on the same day?
Talking to my gaffer earlier we were saying as much, could be a right old jamboree on that last day, teams doing the hokey cokey all over the place.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
The last round of games in the Champions League could be a bit like that. Lots of ina and outs of the top 8 and bottom 12 as the scores change. Top 8 especially, seeing as there's 1 point currently between 3rd and 12th. Are all final games on the same day?
All Wednesday at 2000GMT.
You can use this to simulate results to see how it can change around.
I had us 9th losing out on GD. But Arsenal were 12th and went to 3rd on my second to last guess.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/simulator/
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Ages until the next match, 21st January.
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Ages until the next match, 21st January.
Because most leagues are now on their hols.....
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
The last round of games in the Champions League could be a bit like that. Lots of ina and outs of the top 8 and bottom 12 as the scores change. Top 8 especially, seeing as there's 1 point currently between 3rd and 12th. Are all final games on the same day?
Yup, all eighteeen matches at 8pm on January 29th.
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This seems as good a place as any to say, watching the highlights last night I got a reminder I've never shown the slightest glimmer of interest in Champions League matches previously. Obvious reason for my change of heart, but as the games cycled through I was also reminded how the competition really is a collection of clubs I utterly despise. I was hoping every last one of them could lose.
So nice to have a decent club in it for a change.
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TBH from the BBC Catchup, I watched Citeh lose because that was funny, and then ours and didn't bother with any others because as you mention, lots of despicable ones in there. (Just a shame it was Juve beating Citeh and not a decent one like Brugges or Young Boys.)
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The last CL game I watched was the extra time and pens of Liverpool v Milan in 2005. Before that I think it was the 1999 final. That's literally it, ever.
I despise the scummy clubs that are in it and haven't watched a single non Villa game this season either. Nor will I. Same goes for the CL highlights. Haven't watched a second of any of it.
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Ridiculously ace!
It was shite. Penalties are great, no idea why anyone would want to make them less likely. It also encouraged home teams to be cagey and made for more boring football.
Technically the away goals rule is still in place, but only as the fifth decider in the group stage.
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The last CL game I watched was the extra time and pens of Liverpool v Milan in 2005. Before that I think it was the 1999 final. That's literally it, ever.
I despise the scummy clubs that are in it and haven't watched a single non Villa game this season either. Nor will I. Same goes for the CL highlights. Haven't watched a second of any of it.
I agree with the sentiment to the genuinely scummy clubs but struggle to see any reason to hate, say, Brest, Bologna or Stuttgart. I've paid more attention this year than at any other time since it was a knockout competition and televised football was a novelty.
As a "neutral", I still like the Conference League best, though. Getting to see genuinely Diddy League clubs like TNS and Shamrock Rovers have their moment in the sun is good fun. I thought it was a ridiculous idea for a tournament when they first announced it, but I like it now.
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I can only think of Trabzonspor where we copped for it.
I just liked the whole safely through one second, whoops no sorry bye-bye the next aspect of it which is lost.
The last round of games in the Champions League could be a bit like that. Lots of ina and outs of the top 8 and bottom 12 as the scores change. Top 8 especially, seeing as there's 1 point currently between 3rd and 12th. Are all final games on the same day?
All Wednesday at 2000GMT.
You can use this to simulate results to see how it can change around.
I had us 9th losing out on GD. But Arsenal were 12th and went to 3rd on my second to last guess.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/simulator/
Done a few and think 17 will do it for certain.
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Thanks for that, was fun. Well, better than working. I have us getting four points. That's good enough for seventh place and a tie against Brugge, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen or PSV in the last sixteen.
I don't think three points will be enough.
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My 9th was on 17 points and mostly putting 2-1 for wins with the higher placed team usually getting the nod.
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Thanks for that, was fun. Well, better than working. I have us getting four points. That's good enough for seventh place and a tie against Brugge, Bayern Munich, Leverkusen or PSV in the last sixteen.
I don't think three points will be enough.
Anyone but Bayern That would be an awful draw for us. I really don't see us are beating them again. Not over 2 legs.
I'd fancy playing almost anyone but them.
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I'd give us a chance against anyone, second leg at Villa Park. You'd probably want one "easier" draw in the last sixteen if we were to have a good chance of going far, though, as I could see us knocking out one top club, but beating two or three would be asking a lot.
I'll be disappointed if we go out to some Feyenoord or Sporting type team. But teams like that would much rather play us than the likes of Liverpool and Barcelona who will probably be in the top eight.
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
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I'd give us a chance against anyone, second leg at Villa Park. You'd probably want one "easier" draw in the last sixteen if we were to have a good chance of going far, though, as I could see us knocking out one top club, but beating two or three would be asking a lot.
I'll be disappointed if we go out to some Feyenoord or Sporting type team. But teams like that would much rather play us than the likes of Liverpool and Barcelona who will probably be in the top eight.
Oh I'd certainly give us a chance, I'd just prefer anyone else personally. I think Bayern would get revenge. Especially now its revenge x2.
Feyenoord in the last 16 would beautiful. Another bit of nostalgia after playing Bayern and Juventus, with a trip to De Kuip, and a huge chance of a place in the QF.
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The last CL game I watched was the extra time and pens of Liverpool v Milan in 2005. Before that I think it was the 1999 final. That's literally it, ever.
I despise the scummy clubs that are in it and haven't watched a single non Villa game this season either. Nor will I. Same goes for the CL highlights. Haven't watched a second of any of it.
I agree with the sentiment to the genuinely scummy clubs but struggle to see any reason to hate, say, Brest, Bologna or Stuttgart. I've paid more attention this year than at any other time since it was a knockout competition and televised football was a novelty.
As a "neutral", I still like the Conference League best, though. Getting to see genuinely Diddy League clubs like TNS and Shamrock Rovers have their moment in the sun is good fun. I thought it was a ridiculous idea for a tournament when they first announced it, but I like it now.
I've probably watched less than 10 non Villa games on TV in the last 15 years. Including Prem games. Althogh I do watch MOTD if Villa win.
I've certainly never watched FA Cup finals (Last one I saw was 2006 or so), or Europa games. I have to physically go to a lot of non Villa games, but that's different. I have long since stopped being a football fan and now only care about watching Villa. The first team, not the kids and definitely not the women's game which bores me to tears on the odd occasion I have had to watch it.
Each to their own, but Bologna v Girona doesn't interest me in the slightest. Nor does Bayern v Milan tbf.
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
Yes, this is spot on.
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
Yes, this is spot on.
I'm not sure it's backed by any real evidence though. What happened far more regularly was the away team in the first leg would push to take a sore draw or a lead and then they'd defend that in the 2nd leg. There were stats done a few years ago (I can't find it now but I remember reading it at the time) which showed a significant drop in the number of goals in the 2nd leg of games compared to the first, something around 1.4 fewer goals from what I remember.
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UEFA Champions League (unofficial) prize money rankings after MD6
🔹 Liverpool 🏴 the first one over €80m❗️
🔹 Bayern 🇩🇪 climbed over €70m
🔹 Juventus 🇮🇹, Atletico 🇪🇸 climbed over €60m
🔹 Benfica 🇵🇹, Milan 🇮🇹, A. Villa 🏴 climbed over €50m
Performance points getting more and more important:
🔸 each win is worth €2.1m, each draw €0.7m
🔸 KO bonus (€1m for KO playoff, €11m for R16)
🔸 Placement bonus (currently €0.29m for last place, +€0.29m for each place higher) ➡️ with each draw this prize grows.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GelRcUfW8AAIVFx?format=png&name=900x900)
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
Yes, this is spot on.
I'm not sure it's backed by any real evidence though. What happened far more regularly was the away team in the first leg would push to take a sore draw or a lead and then they'd defend that in the 2nd leg. There were stats done a few years ago (I can't find it now but I remember reading it at the time) which showed a significant drop in the number of goals in the 2nd leg of games compared to the first, something around 1.4 fewer goals from what I remember.
All you need to look at the amount of upsets when there was away goals. You rarely see upsets when they scrapped the away goal rule
All you need to look at is our game last season in conference league against ajax. We went there played for the draw and finished them easily at home. If the away goals were in place we would have tried to score a goal. In second leg it encourages more attacking play. If you lost 1st let at home 2-1 lets say you have to attack and try score two. Games were better
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The last CL game I watched was the extra time and pens of Liverpool v Milan in 2005. Before that I think it was the 1999 final. That's literally it, ever.
I despise the scummy clubs that are in it and haven't watched a single non Villa game this season either. Nor will I. Same goes for the CL highlights. Haven't watched a second of any of it.
I agree with the sentiment to the genuinely scummy clubs but struggle to see any reason to hate, say, Brest, Bologna or Stuttgart. I've paid more attention this year than at any other time since it was a knockout competition and televised football was a novelty.
As a "neutral", I still like the Conference League best, though. Getting to see genuinely Diddy League clubs like TNS and Shamrock Rovers have their moment in the sun is good fun. I thought it was a ridiculous idea for a tournament when they first announced it, but I like it now.
So you watched Chelsea the full 90 mins beating Noahj 8-0? How was the pace second half?
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
Yes, this is spot on.
I'm not sure it's backed by any real evidence though. What happened far more regularly was the away team in the first leg would push to take a sore draw or a lead and then they'd defend that in the 2nd leg. There were stats done a few years ago (I can't find it now but I remember reading it at the time) which showed a significant drop in the number of goals in the 2nd leg of games compared to the first, something around 1.4 fewer goals from what I remember.
All you need to look at the amount of upsets when there was away goals. You rarely see upsets when they scrapped the away goal rule
All you need to look at is our game last season in conference league against ajax. We went there played for the draw and finished them easily at home. If the away goals were in place we would have tried to score a goal. In second leg it encourages more attacking play. If you lost 1st let at home 2-1 lets say you have to attack and try score two. Games were better
Again, that's just in your head, there were, over many years, far fewer goals in the 2nd leg of ties. Are there fewer upsets, do you have any evidence for that beyond making an assumption and stating it as a fact?
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
That was the theory, but it rarely worked out like that. It always seemed arbitrary nonsense to me. Why not left footed goals? Goals by players with facial hair? Load of nonsense. Just give us penalties.
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
That was the theory, but it rarely worked out like that. It always seemed arbitrary nonsense to me. Why not left footed goal? Goals by players with facial hair? Load of nonsense. Just give us penalties.
Exactly.
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Away goals is totally out of date, glad it's gone. Not because of the impact on us but because it encourages teams to play defensively on front of their own fans, which is fucking boring.
I think opposite- it encourages teams to score goals away from home not sit back for the draw and then try beat them 2nd leg at home. It made the 2nd leg more interesting
That was the theory, but it rarely worked out like that. It always seemed arbitrary nonsense to me. Why not left footed goals? Goals by players with facial hair? Load of nonsense. Just give us penalties.
If it was goals by guys with crappy tattoos and top knots, the Leeds side of 22/23 would be Champions of Europe.
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A terrifying prospect.
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https://x.com/fmeetsdata/status/1867114653912097139?s=08
Chumps League winnings thus far.
We miss out on being at the top because our 5 and 10yr coefficients are so poor. Just shows how the rules are rigged to maintain the status quo and support the SuperLeaguers.
City, PSG, Real, Liverpool and Bayern all earn c. €40m just for turning up. We get €19.85m in comparison.
Performance points becoming more important:
🔸 each win is worth €2.1m, each draw €0.7m
🔸 KO bonus (€1m for KO playoff, €11m for R16)
🔸 Placement bonus (currently €0.29m for last place, +€0.29m for each place higher), so coming 8th would earn €8.41m
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https://x.com/fmeetsdata/status/1867114653912097139?s=08
Chumps League winnings thus far.
We miss out on being at the top because our 5 and 10yr coefficients are so poor. Just shows how the rules are rigged to maintain the status quo and support the SuperLeaguers.
City, PSG, Real, Liverpool and Bayern all earn c. €40m just for turning up. We get €19.85m in comparison.
Performance points becoming more important:
🔸 each win is worth €2.1m, each draw €0.7m
🔸 KO bonus (€1m for KO playoff, €11m for R16)
🔸 Placement bonus (currently €0.29m for last place, +€0.29m for each place higher), s
o coming 8th would earn €8.41m
That is a absolute loads of bollocks. The corruption and unfairness is there for all to see
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That wanky club world championship this summer pays competiing sides £60m apparently. Or somesuch insane figure.
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The Real Madrid chairman was still moaning about it. Not because of the extra games, but because they can make more than that playing friendlies.
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That wanky club world championship this summer pays competiing sides £60m apparently. Or somesuch insane figure.
That is unbelievable
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That is a absolute loads of bollocks. The corruption and unfairness is there for all to see
Unfairness, perhaps. Not sure on corruption though being as they have stated teams with a bigger market pool and good 5 and 10 year records get more. Surely it is corruption if they paid them the extra money behind the scenes.
However if you are just complaining the big teams get all this extra money because they are so big, Leipzig got 29mil. Mainly because they are a German team who have done reasonably well in Europe for the last 5 years. But that is more then Real Madrid who won it twice during that time. We got almost 18mil just for being English. If we stay competing in Europe, then we would be on the high 20's low 30's as well.
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That is a absolute loads of bollocks. The corruption and unfairness is there for all to see
Unfairness, perhaps. Not sure on corruption though being as they have stated teams with a bigger market pool and good 5 and 10 year records get more. Surely it is corruption if they paid them the extra money behind the scenes.
However if you are just complaining the big teams get all this extra money because they are so big, Leipzig got 29mil. Mainly because they are a German team who have done reasonably well in Europe for the last 5 years. But that is more then Real Madrid who won it twice during that time. We got almost 18mil just for being English. If we stay competing in Europe, then we would be on the high 20's low 30's as well.
Its corruption because as its been said its rewarding teams for historic performances. Its bad enough they got advantages previously with seedings but this on top? Its abit of a mockery to everyone who isnt in the elite club. The system is designed to shaft clubs like ours
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Its corruption because as its been said its rewarding teams for historic performances. Its bad enough they got advantages previously with seedings but this on top? Its abit of a mockery to everyone who isnt in the elite club. The system is designed to shaft clubs like ours
Still not corruption. England only has four places in the Champions League as a "reward" for historic performances.
Between that and the changes in the competition format which is massively more advantageous to us than the old system, there's probably no club in Europe who has benefited more from "the system" than us.
Maybe Brest.
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Its corruption because as its been said its rewarding teams for historic performances. Its bad enough they got advantages previously with seedings but this on top? Its abit of a mockery to everyone who isnt in the elite club. The system is designed to shaft clubs like ours
Well no, that just sounds like unfairness again. But if you want to, write to the club and ask them to return 15mil or give it to charity because you think it is corruption. I reckon we have benefitted by about that much just for being English and probably only deserve about 2-3 mil for our own accomplishments in Europe last season.
And also, as mentioned that "elite" club Leipzig got many millions more then the "elite" clubs Arsenal and Juve. And even slightly more then the team who have won it twice in the last four years, Real Madrid. See UEFA trying to pay off Big Wings suppliers.
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Its corruption because as its been said its rewarding teams for historic performances. Its bad enough they got advantages previously with seedings but this on top? Its abit of a mockery to everyone who isnt in the elite club. The system is designed to shaft clubs like ours
Still not corruption. England only has four places in the Champions League as a "reward" for historic performances.
Between that and the changes in the competition format which is massively more advantageous to us than the old system, there's probably no club in Europe who has benefited more from "the system" than us.
Maybe Brest.
Good points, well made.
On a similar note, I get a bit fed up with the whining and defeatist attitude of our fans (albeit mainly on Twitter) about PSR. Let’s just get on with it. As a PL club, we have a huge financial advantage over almost every club in the world, which allows us to quite easily assemble a squad of 25 brilliant footballers. After that it’s up to the coach, and we can also afford a brilliant one of them.
I understand how PSR is something of a stitch up, but I think we can overcome the disadvantages with great coaching and recruitment - and clever sales. Maybe a few rebel clubs could band together and get PL rules changed to suit us better, but then we’d just bump into the UEFA squad-cost rules and we’d be whining and defeatist again.
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€50m in prize money so far apparently.
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I did that simulation and filled in all the results twice... it had us missing out on qualifying both times, one by a point and one by goal difference (had us on 17 for both). I'm probably just terrible at predicting, but I'm not buying the 64% probability that 16 points will be enough. I'll do it another 98 times to get a better idea.
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I hope it doesn’t but it might come down to Mings picking the ball up.
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I've probably watched less than 10 non Villa games on TV in the last 15 years. Including Prem games. Althogh I do watch MOTD if Villa win.
I've certainly never watched FA Cup finals (Last one I saw was 2006 or so), or Europa games. I have to physically go to a lot of non Villa games, but that's different. I have long since stopped being a football fan and now only care about watching Villa. The first team, not the kids and definitely not the women's game which bores me to tears on the odd occasion I have had to watch it.
Each to their own, but Bologna v Girona doesn't interest me in the slightest. Nor does Bayern v Milan tbf.
Thanks for typing this. Saved me having to do it. Other football is wank. I tried to watch Rangers v Spuds last night. Got bored after 5 minutes.
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Looking nailed on that there will be 5 Champions League places for English clubs next season. Potentially massive for us.
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I did that simulation and filled in all the results twice... it had us missing out on qualifying both times, one by a point and one by goal difference (had us on 17 for both). I'm probably just terrible at predicting, but I'm not buying the 64% probability that 16 points will be enough. I'll do it another 98 times to get a better idea.
As a bit of fun it's fine, but as an actual tool to determine positions it's absolutely pointless unless you know what the scores are going to be in each and every game. Which nobody does.
17 points is enough every time I've played FM24, which is is scores of times. It has never not been enough. 16 usually is too. But 17, always.
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I've probably watched less than 10 non Villa games on TV in the last 15 years. Including Prem games. Althogh I do watch MOTD if Villa win.
I've certainly never watched FA Cup finals (Last one I saw was 2006 or so), or Europa games. I have to physically go to a lot of non Villa games, but that's different. I have long since stopped being a football fan and now only care about watching Villa. The first team, not the kids and definitely not the women's game which bores me to tears on the odd occasion I have had to watch it.
Each to their own, but Bologna v Girona doesn't interest me in the slightest. Nor does Bayern v Milan tbf.
Thanks for typing this. Saved me having to do it. Other football is wank. I tried to watch Rangers v Spuds last night. Got bored after 5 minutes.
Same here, just not interested in games as a neutral any more.
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Me too. I’m a MOTD watcher when we win but unless I really dislike one of the teams I struggle to watch other games. I don’t have Sky, TNT etc so almost never come across live football. Which means I don’t know half of our opposing players most weeks.
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I've probably watched less than 10 non Villa games on TV in the last 15 years. Including Prem games. Althogh I do watch MOTD if Villa win.
I've certainly never watched FA Cup finals (Last one I saw was 2006 or so), or Europa games. I have to physically go to a lot of non Villa games, but that's different. I have long since stopped being a football fan and now only care about watching Villa. The first team, not the kids and definitely not the women's game which bores me to tears on the odd occasion I have had to watch it.
Each to their own, but Bologna v Girona doesn't interest me in the slightest. Nor does Bayern v Milan tbf.
Thanks for typing this. Saved me having to do it. Other football is wank. I tried to watch Rangers v Spuds last night. Got bored after 5 minutes.
Same here, just not interested in games as a neutral any more.
I am the total opposite I love football and will watch any match including non-league which I do regularly and my two lads who have both played/play football for local teams
In fact if I’m walking over a field and there is a football match going on I will have to go and have a look
I’m an addict, I sometimes I wish I wasn’t but there it is
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John e, I’m the same with parks football, I love watching a game whilst out walking. Just not the rest of the premier league
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I did that simulation and filled in all the results twice... it had us missing out on qualifying both times, one by a point and one by goal difference (had us on 17 for both). I'm probably just terrible at predicting, but I'm not buying the 64% probability that 16 points will be enough. I'll do it another 98 times to get a better idea.
As a bit of fun it's fine, but as an actual tool to determine positions it's absolutely pointless unless you know what the scores are going to be in each and every game. Which nobody does.
17 points is enough every time I've played FM24, which is is scores of times. It has never not been enough. 16 usually is too. But 17, always.
I mean... yeah, it's quite obviously pointless.
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
Done far better than we thought we would.
I think if you gave me a option if its to miss out on CL i would rather go for conference than europa try win it, also as its easier teams it should not have as much of a impact on league form as europa would
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
Done far better than we thought we would.
I think if you gave me a option if its to miss out on CL i would rather go for conference than europa try win it, also as its easier teams it should not have as much of a impact on league form as europa would
Clubs outside the media’s favourites aren’t allowed to strengthen in order to maintain a constant challenge. The financial rules prevent it and the drawbridge has well and truly been pulled up. We are allowed to get so far and then have to sell. It’s like being punished for daring to take up a place in the CL. It’s frustrating but this game is in a state and resembles nothing like the game I fell in love with over 50 years ago.
The only hope we have is we have a fantastic manager. Lose him and it’s back to square one.
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Clubs outside the media’s favourites aren’t allowed to strengthen in order to maintain a constant challenge. The financial rules prevent it and the drawbridge has well and truly been pulled up. We are allowed to get so far and then have to sell. It’s like being punished for daring to take up a place in the CL. It’s frustrating but this game is in a state and resembles nothing like the game I fell in love with over 50 years ago.
The only hope we have is we have a fantastic manager. Lose him and it’s back to square one.
Agree 100%.
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It takes outstanding coaching, recruitment and financial management, but it can be done.
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It takes outstanding coaching, recruitment and financial management, but it can be done.
I hope so because this club deserves it.
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
How about enjoying it because it's, errr, enjoyable?
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
How about enjoying it because it's, errr, enjoyable?
As i said might as well enjoy it no matter what happens as done better than expected. Just a shame its not be replicated in the league
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
How about enjoying it because it's, errr, enjoyable?
As i said might as well enjoy it no matter what happens as done better than expected. Just a shame its not be replicated in the league
No, just enjoy it, no need for the "it's unlikely we'll qualify next season" part. That adds a completely different tone to what you're saying.
Honestly, what's the point?
You can't post anything without adding a negative slant to it. It's oppressive and unavoidable.
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Might as well enjoy it this year as its unlikely we will qualify next season if we dont strengthen in January.
How about enjoying it because it's, errr, enjoyable?
As i said might as well enjoy it no matter what happens as done better than expected. Just a shame its not be replicated in the league
No, just enjoy it, no need for the "it's unlikely we'll qualify next season" part. That adds a completely different tone to what you're saying.
Honestly, what's the point?
You can't post anything without adding a negative slant to it. It's oppressive and unavoidable.
Im just me expressing my opinion that i do not believe we are good enough to get CL this year - hence why whatever happens in CL i will just enjoy it
Even if we dont qualify past the group stage for example.
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Erm, asking for a friend. Do we not want to play the extra two games for the revenue or is going straight into the last 16 worth more money because of prize money?
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It's only "extra revenue" if you get through. I'd rather not take the chance. Plus only €1 million prize money for last 24, €11 million for last 16.
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Erm, asking for a friend. Do we not want to play the extra two games for the revenue or is going straight into the last 16 worth more money because of prize money?
The latter
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Thanks. Top 8 is the ask then.
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Thanks. Top 8 is the ask then.
Most definitely along with a very light February fixture list.
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...hence why whatever happens in CL i will just enjoy it.
Do you mean "until one pass from a defender goes slightly astray, leading to a Monaco shot", at which point the whole endeavour will be a disgrace and an embarrassment?
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Thanks. Top 8 is the ask then.
Low block in Monaco then let the savages have it in B6
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Thanks. Top 8 is the ask then.
Low block in Monaco then let the savages have it in B6
What savages are these?
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I'm assuming any Scottish person, knowing
Coops, err Tim.
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Thanks. Top 8 is the ask then.
Low block in Monaco then let the savages have it in B6
What savages are these?
Trolls gonna troll.
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Erm, asking for a friend. Do we not want to play the extra two games for the revenue or is going straight into the last 16 worth more money because of prize money?
The latter
You must get more prize £££ going straight through via the top 8, than playing and winning 2 more matches and the revenue those will provide(I.e. win bonus x2 and added match day revenue)?
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Erm, asking for a friend. Do we not want to play the extra two games for the revenue or is going straight into the last 16 worth more money because of prize money?
The latter
You must get more prize £££ going straight through via the top 8, than playing and winning 2 more matches and the revenue those will provide(I.e. win bonus x2 and added match day revenue)?
You do. If you read further up the thread its something like €11m for direct to the top 8.
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...hence why whatever happens in CL i will just enjoy it.
Do you mean "until one pass from a defender goes slightly astray, leading to a Monaco shot", at which point the whole endeavour will be a disgrace and an embarrassment?
Not sure why your quoting me on this did you read the reaction thread vs forest? I was quite tame in comparison to others?
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Erm, asking for a friend. Do we not want to play the extra two games for the revenue or is going straight into the last 16 worth more money because of prize money?
The latter
You must get more prize £££ going straight through via the top 8, than playing and winning 2 more matches and the revenue those will provide(I.e. win bonus x2 and added match day revenue)?
You do. If you read further up the thread its something like €11m for direct to the top 8.
Cheers.
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It is also €2.1m per win in the group stages (€700k draw), and €300k per league position (could be more, as it started at €275k, but for each draw in the competition, the €700k over goes into the league position pot, currently €10,5m extra). So assuming we don't win both matches, and we drop 4 places to at least 9th, we are already down about €5-6mi on what we could have earned.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
.agree
If we were to get to play offs i would want brugges as i am certain we would batter them over two leagues
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Just bought my ticket for the Monaco game, for the princely (ahem) sum of €22. Chuis hyper content.
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Just bought my ticket for the Monaco game, for the princely (ahem) sum of €22. Chuis hyper content.
Me too, it wouldn't let me earlier in the week, but all sorted now
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Just bought my ticket for the Monaco game, for the princely (ahem) sum of €22. Chuis hyper content.
Me too, it wouldn't let me earlier in the week, but all sorted now
It was reserved for Monaco season ticket holders. But all seven of them have got their tickets now, so they've opened them up to general sale.
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Just bought my ticket for the Monaco game, for the princely (ahem) sum of €22. Chuis hyper content.
Me too, it wouldn't let me earlier in the week, but all sorted now
See you in Jimmy'z after the game.
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Tried buying but Monaco have obviously realized Villa fans are buying these tickets. Making it clear they are for home fans only.
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Tried buying but Monaco have obviously realized Villa fans are buying these tickets. Making it clear they are for home fans only.
They were until Wednesday, when they went on general sale. You should be able to buy tickets in a "neutral" section.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
Won’t we be financially better off to go through automatically though?
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
Won’t we be financially better off to go through automatically though?
We will, even by winning the remaining games will give us more than the play offs. Plus Heck would only really have one big game to fleece us, not two.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
I’m as much a Heck is a money grabbing wanker as the next man but this makes no sense whatsoever as has been explained about 20 times on this thread.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
I’m as much a Heck is a money grabbing wanker as the next man but this makes no sense whatsoever as has been explained about 20 times on this thread.
I'm already looking forward to the 21st.
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There’s no way I want to be faffing about with the playoffs, even if it did mean a few extra bob. Have you seen the names in the group. We’d get Real Madrid, no doubt about it.
I can think of one person who must be licking his lips at the thought of us having two big extra games.
I’m as much a Heck is a money grabbing wanker as the next man but this makes no sense whatsoever as has been explained about 20 times on this thread.
I'm already looking forward to the 21st.
Same here, but it'll be a tough game at Monaco.
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I have 2 spare tickets in entrance B for Monaco away. Looking for £60 for the two. Please DM if anyone wants them.
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
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Depends when you bought it, eligiblity wise, I think. If you're a member and he isn't, they may not let you?
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If you trust your brother, he could always logon to the phone app with your details.
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
As longnas he ain't heavy.
The seats at VP aren't for the broad-arsed.
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
What if he hasn't got a fan ID?
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Then he should create one. Or log into the app as you
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
What if he hasn't got a fan ID?
Spoke to the ticket office:
FanID is OK for transferring tickets for league games, but it's insufficient for Chumps League ticket transfers.
You have to have C£ar€t M€mb€r$hip.
That'll be £40, thank you very much!
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
What if he hasn't got a fan ID?
Spoke to the ticket office:
FanID is OK for transferring tickets for league games, but it's insufficient for Chumps League ticket transfers.
You have to have C£ar€t M€mb€r$hip.
That'll be £40, thank you very much!
I might be able to get hold of a claret membership fan ID who isn’t going if you need it?
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
What if he hasn't got a fan ID?
Spoke to the ticket office:
FanID is OK for transferring tickets for league games, but it's insufficient for Chumps League ticket transfers.
You have to have C£ar€t M€mb€r$hip.
That'll be £40, thank you very much!
I might be able to get hold of a claret membership fan ID who isn’t going if you need it?
Thanks BNS - We're exploring other ways of foiling Mr Heck.
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Does anybody know if I can transfer a Champs League Celtic ticket to my brother?
If he has a FanID then yes, just ring the TO.
What if he hasn't got a fan ID?
Spoke to the ticket office:
FanID is OK for transferring tickets for league games, but it's insufficient for Chumps League ticket transfers.
You have to have C£ar€t M€mb€r$hip.
That'll be £40, thank you very much!
I might be able to get hold of a claret membership fan ID who isn’t going if you need it?
Thanks BNS - We're exploring other ways of foiling Mr Heck.
No worries, just let me know. Think it’ll just be a case of forwarding the email onto you to then put it in the wallet in your phone.
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I'm listening to the Guardian Football Weekly podcast. Jonathan Liew just said it was unlikely that Real Madrid would be able to pull off their usual Champions League win this year, and I instinctively thought, 'that's good for us'.
We were recently managed by Steve Bruce.
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I'm listening to the Guardian Football Weekly podcast. Jonathan Liew just said it was unlikely that Real Madrid would be able to pull off their usual Champions League win this year, and I instinctively thought, 'that's good for us'.
We were recently managed by Steve Bruce.
I’d put nothing past those jammy bastards. I’m still amazed they’ve got to 16.
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I’d put nothing past those jammy bastards. I’m still amazed they’ve got to 16.
The good thing is they stop Citeh, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea winning it, although I doubt we'll catch them now.
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I’d put nothing past those jammy bastards. I’m still amazed they’ve got to 16.
The good thing is they stop Citeh, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea winning it, although I doubt we'll catch them now.
Sorry its actually only 15 but 6 in the last 11 years.
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Sloppy Monaco stunned by Ligue 1 strugglers Montpellier
Monaco's slump in form continued on Friday ahead of their return to Champions League action as the principality club blew a lead to lose 2-1 away to Ligue 1's bottom club Montpellier.
Jordan's Mousa Al-Tamari was the hero for Montpellier with a second-half brace as they claimed just a third win of the season to breathe life into a survival bid which looked hopeless coming into this match.
Captain Thilo Kehrer had headed Monaco in front just after the half-hour mark at the Stade de la Mosson, but the downward trend in Monaco's results is worrying as they prepare to host Aston Villa next Tuesday.
They have failed to win any of their last four Ligue 1 matches and could drop out of the top three later, depending on the outcome of the night's other encounter between Lille and Nice, the two teams directly beneath them in the standings.
Adi Huetter's side were eliminated from the French Cup on penalties by Reims on Tuesday and have won just twice in 11 matches in all competitions.
They are currently 16th in the Champions League standings but have lost their last two games in Europe and another loss against Villa at the Stade Louis II would leave them at risk of failing to make the knockout phase.
They had threatened to run away with the game early on and deservedly went in front when Kehrer nodded in a corner at the near post.
Yet bizarrely the game changed completely after a hold-up of several minutes at the start of the second half caused by Montpellier fans playing loud dance music out of speakers behind the goal at one end of the stadium.
Tamari was gifted an equaliser on 55 minutes when he pounced on Kassoum Ouattara's short back-pass to round the goalkeeper and score his first goal of the season.
He then got the winner for Montpellier eight minutes from the end, beating Radoslaw Majecki low at the goalkeeper's near post after being set up by Arnaud Nordin.
Tamari almost completed his hat-trick at the death as Montpellier held on to move level on points with Le Havre at the bottom, and within four points of safety ahead of the weekend's other games.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/sloppy-monaco-stunned-ligue-1-202622689.html
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Sloppy Monaco stunned by Ligue 1 strugglers Montpellier
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/sloppy-monaco-stunned-ligue-1-202622689.html
So, basically, they’re due a win which will come against us. I bet they’ve got also striker who hasn’t scored in 15 games, ready to break that drought.
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They've got an extra night's rest before they play us, just like Lille did last April. A game we played shite in and should have lost.
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They've got an extra night's rest before they play us, just like Lille did last April. A game we played shite in and should have lost.
Although the Lille game was three months later in the season when we were on fumes.
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And also had a smaller squad than we do now. Hopefully that'll make a difference if we make it to the latter stages again.
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They've got an extra night's rest before they play us, just like Lille did last April. A game we played shite in and should have lost.
Lille had longer than that. They had the weekend off!
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Does anyone know if we can register any new players now windows open? Or will that be aftee celtoc game if we qualify?
As if we sell carlos and loan out buendia for example we will be short for the CL games leaving us with no one
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Only after Celtic game.
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Only after Celtic game.
.thanks mate
Could be a very thin bench for celtic as it stands then
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Not if McGinn's arse is sat on it.
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https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/simulator/
just a bit of fun
Red scouse
barca
leversen
Villa
inter
dortmand
munich
milan
arse, madrid, man city and PSG to fight it out in play offs
cant wait for Tuesday
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I have Bayern, Madrid, Juve, and Man City all in the knockouts.
(https://i.ibb.co/P1tV77c/Screenshot-2025-01-20-at-9-14-38-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/P1tV77c)
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I have us in 4th...
(https://i.ibb.co/gwVnkDs/Screenshot-2025-01-19-222929.png) (https://ibb.co/gwVnkDs)
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^^ shows how tight it is. I think we need two wins for top eight.
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^^ shows how tight it is. I think we need two wins for top eight.
Concur with this. That fucking Bruges result has really fucked us. However we are more than capable of winning both games but the crucial one is tomorrow night. Can’t wait and off to the station shortly to catch the train to Nice (via London and Paris).
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Seems like Monaco are in dreadful form. Something like 2 wins in 11 and lost to bottom of the table Montpellier on Friday.
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Had a great session in Nice last night, a few sore heads this morning.
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^^ shows how tight it is. I think we need two wins for top eight.
Agreed. There are way too many team within range who are capable of two wins to overtake us...and they are some major players. Can't afford to give them the chance.
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Its in our hands, but Percy is right, it will be tighter than a bull's arsehole during fly season.
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We just need to do our job and let everyone else worry. Get the three points in the first match of the round and the pressure goes on everyone else around us. Lose or draw and they get more of a leeway.
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Had a great session in Nice last night, a few sore heads this morning.
Any sign of Purslow or General Krulak?
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Had a great session in Nice last night, a few sore heads this morning.
Excellent work Chico. Any recommendations for places?
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I have us in 4th...
(https://i.ibb.co/gwVnkDs/Screenshot-2025-01-19-222929.png) (https://ibb.co/gwVnkDs)
I have us in 5th. Though I also did it with a win tomorrow night and a draw versus Celtic. That saw us finish 8th. UTV
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Does anyone know if you finish in the top 8 for next phase do you have the advantage of 2nd leg at home? Or just that you avoid a play off game?
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Does anyone know if you finish in the top 8 for next phase do you have the advantage of 2nd leg at home? Or just that you avoid a play off game?
Home leg advantage and plays the winner of certain matches. There is a weird seeding system where it could be one of two opponents drawn depending on position. So 9th and 10th are pulled against 23rd and 24th, and then the winners of those two matches will be drawn against 5th/6th placed teams.
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Does anyone know if you finish in the top 8 for next phase do you have the advantage of 2nd leg at home? Or just that you avoid a play off game?
Home leg advantage and plays the winner of certain matches. There is a weird seeding system where it could be one of two opponents drawn depending on position. So 9th and 10th are pulled against 23rd and 24th, and then the winners of those two matches will be drawn against 5th/6th placed teams.
Cheers somni
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Little Emi starts
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No one starting match thread
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Please can it be someone favoured by the gods?
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No one starting match thread
Was thinking the same thing.
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Probably now hoping we tonk Celtic and that a lot of other remaining games favour us.
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Well I'm sure we will be in the play offs even after that shit show but now we have to finish 9th to 16th to at least get the second leg at home. Will now of course mess up the Spurs cup game.
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I'm continually baffled by repeated mentions of 16 being enough by comms and pundits, I mean it COULD, but it's so far from guaranteed. I filled out all the results twice and had us missing out on 17 points both times. I think we need some results going our way tonight and tomorrow.
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You're having a laugh
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No chance we get in on 16 points. The number crunching is a load of shit.
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It really is the worst of all worlds, now an extra 2 CL games and crazy difficult opposition if we get through that.
Which significantly reduces our chances of qualifying for next year.
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What results are we hoping for tonight and tomorrow to better our chances of qualifying with 16 points?
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Not taking a point is a disaster. A point would have been huge. Now its probably play offs the worst case scenario and we could get real madrid or psg as both sides are doing so badly
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I really don’t want to look at the table.
Can we be eliminated on 13 points ?
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I really don’t want to look at the table.
Can we be eliminated on 13 points ?
no. But we'll have to go to a playoff.
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Not taking a point is a disaster. A point would have been huge. Now its probably play offs the worst case scenario and we could get real madrid or psg as both sides are doing so badly
We should have gone for a stranger team and approach in Bruges but made no effort whatsoever.
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Liverpool doing us a favour by winning against Lille
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I really don’t want to look at the table.
Can we be eliminated on 13 points ?
Highly unlikely. Dinamo Zagreb would need to beat both Arsenal and Milan
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I really don’t want to look at the table.
Can we be eliminated on 13 points ?
Highly unlikely. Dinamo Zagreb would need to beat both Arsenal and Milan
Ta
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I really don’t want to look at the table.
Can we be eliminated on 13 points ?
Highly unlikely. Dinamo Zagreb would need to beat both Arsenal and Milan
Ta
Loads if other unlikely things need to happen too
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Barca pull one back in unconventional circumstances 3-2. A draw or Barca win would be handy.
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4-2 Benfica now. Barcelona suspect at the back.
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Barca pull one back in unconventional circumstances 3-2. A draw or Barca win would be handy.
4-2 now. I actually think a one goal defeat for Barca. We would turn guarantee to finish above either them or Atalanta with a win next week.
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Bologna beating dortmund helps us
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Dortmund have dropped from 3rd to 14th in five minutes.
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Bologna beating dortmund helps us
Samuel Iling-Junior has scored their second.
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Penalty to Barcelona
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7th now
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Not taking a point is a disaster. A point would have been huge. Now its probably play offs the worst case scenario and we could get real madrid or psg as both sides are doing so badly
We should have gone for a stranger team and approach in Bruges but made no effort whatsoever.
Yep. It looked like we played for a point.
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Right now as it stands simply put, win and we are in. Of course tomorrow’s games might fuck all that up.
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Fuck me. Blow full time on these games right now. Barca play Atalanta in the last round too, so we would take one of them with a win over Celtic. NO MORE GOALS
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Barca 4-4
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Not taking a point is a disaster. A point would have been huge. Now its probably play offs the worst case scenario and we could get real madrid or psg as both sides are doing so badly
We should have gone for a stranger team and approach in Bruges but made no effort whatsoever.
Yep. It looked like we played for a point.
I think we thought we could just turn up and win because they're from a smaller league. Hopefully a different attitude next week.
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Right now as it stands simply put, win and we are in. Of course tomorrow’s games might fuck all that up.
As it stands Bayern, Milan and Brest can go ahead of us with a win tomorrow
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Atletico score and go above us
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FFS Leverkusen.
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Only 3 can go above us tomorrow so worst case 11th ...still in our hands if we beat celtic
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Results have gone pretty bloody well in the 8pm kick offs. I reckon we are back to win and in.
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Barcelona 5-4
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5-4 Barcelona! Great game
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Bologna and Brugge did us solids. Late Barca and Atleti goals a kick in the nuts.
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What an ace day it’s been
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Bologna and Brugge did us solids. Late Barca and Atleti goals a kick in the nuts.
Barcelona were above us anyway weren’t they so then winning is better than Benfica
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Bologna and Brugge did us solids. Late Barca and Atleti goals a kick in the nuts.
Barcelona were above us anyway weren’t they so then winning is better than Benfica
They play Atalanta last match so while they were losing we would have been guaranteed to go above one of them with a win.
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Results have gone pretty bloody well in the 8pm kick offs. I reckon we are back to win and in.
We need tomorrow to go just as well. Look at the last round of fixtures. Almost everyone around us has a gimme. Starting ninth we might get away with. Anything lower I think we're done.
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And Benfica were below us on GD while it was a one goal lead
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Bologna and Brugge did us solids. Late Barca and Atleti goals a kick in the nuts.
Barcelona were above us anyway weren’t they so then winning is better than Benfica
They play Atalanta last match so while they were losing we would have been guaranteed to go above one of them with a win.
Ah ok. I was just about to check the other fixtures for next week but not sure my brain can calculate the permutations!
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Just had a look and brest even if they win tomorrow their last game is vs real madrid.
Inter is monco at home you wxpect them to win that
The other side is ac milan is girona and kiev so thats abit annoying as i expect them to win that
Barcelona have qualified now so they wont care against atlanta which is annoying. One point would have been massive today ffs
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Almost too many fixtures to focus on. We've got to win first off and hope for the best.
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Think the Barcelona win is good for us, so long as they don't rest the entire team and get at least a draw against Atalanta.
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I think those Barca and Atletico goals have cooked us. Barca can play the kids versus Atalanta. There's no tangible benefit from where you finish in the top eight, so that open position is gone. Both Leverkusen and Atletico will finish above us now, whilst the draw would've kept Atletico below. When Bayern and Milan win tomorrow we'll be down to tenth, eleventh if Brest beat Shakthar. Two/three place gain is slim odds with the fixtures on the last day.
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Think we can overtake Brest and Atalanta on the last day and I think we will need to overtake Leverkusens 1 goal lead on goal difference to get 8th now.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League
See for an explanation of how the knockout phase works
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That defeat is so damaging .
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Results have gone pretty bloody well in the 8pm kick offs. I reckon we are back to win and in.
We need tomorrow to go just as well. Look at the last round of fixtures. Almost everyone around us has a gimme. Starting ninth we might get away with. Anything lower I think we're done.
Yeah, I was just looking at everyone's fixtures and there are loads of easy ones about. I'm not confident at all.
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Think we can overtake Brest and Atalanta on the last day and I think we will need to overtake Leverkusens 1 goal lead on goal difference to get 8th now.
Atalanta will win next week as Barca have comfortably qualified.
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Going to be tough now, a few of the teams ahead are playing the bottom, poorer teams, and there aren’t enough fixtures between teams above us to take points off each other.
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It’s hard to work out but it looks like we are unlikely to get in top 8 even if we beat Celtic.
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We need Barca to show up against Atalanta. Of course we also need to beat Celtic.
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It’s hard to work out but it looks like we are unlikely to get in top 8 even if we beat Celtic.
It sounded like Uni thinks we have missed out on top 8 given the post match interview. Tyrone appeared almost shell shocked and distraught.
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We probably need one result to go our way tomorrow to have a chance of a win and in. Otherwise it would be win and need help.
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It’s hard to work out but it looks like we are unlikely to get in top 8 even if we beat Celtic.
Well it isn't in our hands anymore but the lowest we could be tomorrow is 11th. As long as someone in the top 8 is still on 13 points, then we need to beat Celtic by several goals. We will know more tomorrow whether 16 is enough or not then.
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An extra two games isn’t what we needed this season.
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That defeat is so damaging .
Yeah, even a point would have helped. Have a feeling we'll finish 9th or 10th but if we're still 8th after tomorrow, it's game on.
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We will probably be 11th after tomorrow's games - Brest, Milan and Bayern have winnable games. Sporting could possibly overtake us if they overhaul the GD. Arsenal will probably win too.
Even if we batter Celtic, we're almost certainly going to need 3 teams (that are likely to be above us) to lose or draw.
Atletico Madrid are away to RB Salzburg who have nothing to play for. We can catch them if they draw though.
Atalanta are away to Barcelona. Barcelona have already qualified, so can rest players.
Arsenal will probably be uncatchable after tomorrow - their games are against Zagreb and Salzburg. Easy.
Leverkusen home to Sparta Prague - easy win
Inter away to Sparta then home to Monaco - should be enough
Brest away to Shaktar then home to Real Madrid
Bayern away to Feyenoord, home to Slovan Bratislava. Should be 6 points
Milan home to Girona, away to Zagreb.
I think the best we can hope for (assuming we turn up against Celtic) is that some of those easy looking wins turn out to be draws; but I think we're going to be in the playoffs.
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An extra two games isn’t what we needed this season.
Yep, the recent injuries haven't helped and it's beginning to feel a little like the second half of last season when we ran out of steam and became very predictable.
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Still a game to go but looks like the games against Bruges and Monaco have done us. Bruges weren’t great but gifted them a goal and strolled about with no urgency but in comparison to Monaco, Bruges were like Brazil 1970, can’t believe how shit they were and how crap we were tonight. 1 point in either game would have done us the world of good.
I’m probably overreacting but we knew what we had to do tonight.
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An extra two games isn’t what we needed this season.
Yep, the recent injuries haven't helped and it's beginning to feel a little like the second half of last season when we ran out of steam and became very predictable.
Hope not. I thought Aug-December this year was our "shit half"!
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It’s hard to work out but it looks like we are unlikely to get in top 8 even if we beat Celtic.
It sounded like Uni thinks we have missed out on top 8 given the post match interview. Tyrone appeared almost shell shocked and distraught.
Did he? Looked quite casual and matter of fact, as normal in the interview I saw.
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We.need a big win next week and hope others do their jobs too.
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Still a game to go but looks like the games against Bruges and Monaco have done us. Bruges weren’t great but gifted them a goal and strolled about with no urgency but in comparison to Monaco, Bruges were like Brazil 1970, can’t believe how shit they were and how crap we were tonight. 1 point in either game would have done us the world of good.
I’m probably overreacting but we knew what we had to do tonight.
Bad form to quote myself but
I’ll add that it’s a sign of our progress that I’m disappointed with not getting results against perennial Champions League teams but if we’d lost having given it a go it’s a different matter. There’s a team trying to stop you but we can and have done better.
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Can new signings play in the play-off round?
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Yep.
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For all I love Tyrone and I do. His errors have really cost us in this tournament.
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An extra two games isn’t what we needed this season.
Certainly don't need them at the start of February.
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Yep.
Well that’s something.
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That defeat is so damaging .
Yeah, even a point would have helped. Have a feeling we'll finish 9th or 10th but if we're still 8th after tomorrow, it's game on.
I think 9th or 10th is now the most likely. Only ourselves to blame too.
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First time in the Champions League, second time in Europe in what seems like forever.
It shows how much this means to everyone, and just how far we've come in such a short space of time, that we're this disappointed with that performance at Monaco.
As things stand we are already in the next round, and have a better chance of Top 8 than probably anyone expected at the start of the season. There are lots of positives to be taken still, but it shows what we need to do.
We're going into the Celtic game not being in control, but that just means we need to go for it, smash the fuck out of them and hope we make it to the top 8.
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First time in the Champions League, second time in Europe in what seems like forever.
It shows how much this means to everyone, and just how far we've come in such a short space of time, that we're this disappointed with that performance at Monaco.
As things stand we are already in the next round, and have a better chance of Top 8 than probably anyone expected at the start of the season. There are lots of positives to be taken still, but it shows what we need to do.
We're going into the Celtic game not being in control, but that just means we need to go for it, smash the fuck out of them and hope we make it to the top 8.
Good post. As annoying and disappointing as this was last night, before we kicked a champions league ball we all would have been happy to even have qualified for the play offs considering we have never played here.
We have come a long way you are right. If we started badly and were now in play offs after a bad start then i think we would all be happy. Just frustrating we put so much work into this to throw it all away after such a disappointing display - which now means fa cup is likely to be sacrificed 😔
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To add that Man City, Real Madrid and PSG aren't even guaranteed to qualify for the play-off round. At least two of them will obviously, but there is a distinct possibility of one of them not making it.
I'm as frustrated as the next person, but we have new signings, players returning from injury, and a top manager who's been here before.
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I'd quite like a really big hitter from another country in the next round. That's what it's all about, and I think we suit playing the better teams who leave spaces, so bring on Real or PSG etc.
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i'd quite like a minnow from another country in the next round, whether it's the last 16 or 32. Preferably a team that's just grateful to have made it that far and play a big hitter from another country.
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I’m enjoying this moment with our players and I hope whoever we get we are respectful, become the protagonists, impose our style, and more or less twat them 5-0.
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PSG have Stuttgart in their 8th game, so if they lose tonight, I think they'll fail to qualify for next round.
So hoping they lose to Man Citeh.
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PSG have Stuttgart in their 8th game, so if they lose tonight, I think they'll fail to qualify for next round.
So hoping they lose to Man Citeh.
Yeah, especially as Citeh can't catch us if we beat Celtic.
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I’m enjoying this moment with our players and I hope whoever we get we are respectful, become the protagonists, impose our style, and more or less twat them 5-0.
would it not be 6 games in 16 days? I can't anything positive here with the current state of our squad.
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First time in the Champions League, second time in Europe in what seems like forever.
It shows how much this means to everyone, and just how far we've come in such a short space of time, that we're this disappointed with that performance at Monaco.
As things stand we are already in the next round, and have a better chance of Top 8 than probably anyone expected at the start of the season. There are lots of positives to be taken still, but it shows what we need to do.
We're going into the Celtic game not being in control, but that just means we need to go for it, smash the fuck out of them and hope we make it to the top 8.
Agree. Before it started, I thought making the play-offs would be the target, but we've obviously exceeded those expectations a bit.
Playing Wednesday means that we'll have a better idea of what we will need to do to finish in the top 8, so let's see.
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All 18 games kick off on Wednesday at 8pm so no advantage gained from playing on Wednesday. For the neutral, it does make this league stage a lot more watchable than the old group stage when you get to the last day
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All those games at once... Taking crack cocaine while following the Champions League has never sounded so ambitious.
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Certainly the below par performance last night and the cock-up by Mings in the Bruges game have cost us (or might cost us) but it still really annoys me that we would have beat Juve but for a last minute VAR decision that was very dodgy IMO. UTV
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can you play Man city in next round as they are english , I remember in other champ leagues , you couldnt play your own country until later rounds, or I might even have dreamt that .
Give us PSG , I reckon we would have a chance , the lesser teams we struggle.
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can you play Juve again as we have already played them? not sure how it all works.
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can you play Juve again as we have already played them? not sure how it all works.
Yes. No limitations on who you can play next.
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can you play Juve again as we have already played them? not sure how it all works.
Yes. No limitations on who you can play next.
and man city? that would be dull.
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Yeah that would be the shittest possible draw. They should really arrange it so teams can't play teams they've already played or who are from the same country until at least the quarters.
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can you play Juve again as we have already played them? not sure how it all works.
Yes. No limitations on who you can play next.
and man city? that would be dull.
Or Liverpool even worserer
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If we're playing Liverpool though it suggests that we won our play-off tie.
So it's not all bad.
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In reality if after the fixtures were announced we'd been offered 13 points at this stage we'd have snapped their hand off. The 2 defeats are very frustrating buy we're still doing well.
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And our Goals Against record in this competition is still mega and at complete odds with the Premier League one.
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I'm feeling more positive today albeit we are now very unlikely to finish top 8. I blame the disallowed Rogers goal against Juve more than anything Villa have done, we wuz robbed!
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
You wouldn't enjoy knocking them out?
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
Yep. we really have a shit record against them.
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For anyone unsure about how it works from here on in. Here's the official UEFA guide on the playoff phase and onward....
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0294-1c8996e7b52e-559ccdc197e6-1000--uefa-champions-league-knockout-phase-play-off-draw-where-is/
(https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0294-1c8996e7b52e-559ccdc197e6-1000--uefa-champions-league-knockout-phase-play-off-draw-where-is/)
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
You wouldn't enjoy knocking them out?
Knocking one out to knocking them out would be peak dopamine.
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For anyone unsure about how it works from here on in. Here's the official UEFA guide on the playoff phase and onward....
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0294-1c8996e7b52e-559ccdc197e6-1000--uefa-champions-league-knockout-phase-play-off-draw-where-is/
(https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0294-1c8996e7b52e-559ccdc197e6-1000--uefa-champions-league-knockout-phase-play-off-draw-where-is/)
PO draw is on Amazon prime 31/01
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
Yep. we really have a shit record against them.
Yeah glad you agree.
Three wins in ten is a marvellous record
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If we're playing Liverpool though it suggests that we won our play-off tie.
So it's not all bad.
Ahhh right, fair enough I don’t understand it all so I’m relying on the wisdom of this place
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what results do we want from teams tonight ?
Just so I know who to root for ( I’m not American I just thought I’d use that word)
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Well inter to lose by mire than 1 would be great but unlikley. Breast getting a tonking would be good. And the other i think (dont quote me) is bayern
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what results do we want from teams tonight ?
Just so I know who to root for ( I’m not American I just thought I’d use that word)
Wins for RBL, Shaktar, Girona and Feyenoord.
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Even if Girona could get a point at Milan, that would be helpful The big one would be a Feyenoord win as Munich have an easy home game next week and a far superior GD.
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Well inter to lose by mire than 1 would be great but unlikley. Breast getting a tonking would be good. And the other i think (dont quote me) is bayern
Brest!
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Well inter to lose by mire than 1 would be great but unlikley. Breast getting a tonking would be good. And the other i think (dont quote me) is bayern
Brest!
Bloody auto correct
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Brest and Sporting are losing at HT, which is good for us.
We could also do with Bayern, Milan, Arsenal and Inter also dropping points - but I don't think any of them will.
If Arsenal and Inter win, we probably can't overturn their GD advantage; and if Bayern and Milan win, we'll be 10th and a point behind; and both of those have easy final games.
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Well inter to lose by mire than 1 would be great but unlikley. Breast getting a tonking would be good. And the other i think (dont quote me) is bayern
Brest!
Everyone needs a bosom for a pillow
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Omg i didnt know we could play citeh!! Ffs that would be the worst possible draw
Yep. we really have a shit record against them.
Yeah glad you agree.
Three wins in ten is a marvellous record
I love knocking one out especially a semi.
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😂😂😂😂
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Chumps League
Early kick off final scores:
Shakhtar 2-0 Brest
Leipzig 2-1 Sporting
Both results were the right ones for us.
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Need feyanood to hold on and i fancy us
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If we are in play offs ... is it single or two legged ?
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If we are in play offs ... is it single or two legged ?
Two legs
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Bayern are losing
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If results stay as they are then I think beating Celtic would probably be enough providing Atalanta don’t win in Barcelona.
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Have to say I didn't expect that Bayern score.
The Barca players half time snacks will be packed lunches. Fuck that. 'MON GIRONA!
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We could find ourselves in a situation starting in 8th then winning and beat celtic but still drop out due to goals scored. So its absolutely crucial we win but really go for it vs celtic
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Joe puts C115y ahead
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Joe puts C115y ahead
Isnt that good for us?
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Joe puts C115y ahead
Isnt that good for us?
Not really relevant PSG look like they may be headed out
0-2 now
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If Bayern lose this, or Girona get something in Milan then I reckon top 8 is a semi likely thing.
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Man City winning is good in the sense that it means we’ll probably avoid them in the play offs if we end up below 8th.
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We could find ourselves in a situation starting in 8th then winning and beat celtic but still drop out due to goals scored. So its absolutely crucial we win but really go for it vs celtic
Very, very unlikely. If we win 1-0, Monaco would have to win by 3 at Inter, and Lille and Brest would have to win their games by 4 to overtake us.
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2-2 PSG
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City might not be making the play offs at this rate
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Maeda misses the game against us for Celtic.
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Next week Atalanta away to Barcelona , Leverkusen at home to Sparta Prague. We need to win by more than Leverkusen or Atalanta not to win Barcelona.
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We can over take Milan, Inter and Atletico too, less likely but not impossible.
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Also Celtic through to playoffs so don't have anything to play for.
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Feyenoord battering Bayern is massive.
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We need to win by 2 goals more then Leverkusen do.
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Theoretically Celtic could nake the top 8 if they beat us but they would need too much elseto go for them.
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Celtic will want to be in the top section of the play offs so they get 2nd leg at home so they wont take game vs us lightly
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Celtic have qualified for the play-offs. So they don't need a result. We need a win by 2 or 3 goals & a bit of luck.
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Also Celtic through to playoffs so don't have anything to play for.
Anyone thinking they will come to B6 and roll over is delusional
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Also Celtic through to playoffs so don't have anything to play for.
Anyone thinking they will come to B6 and roll over is delusional
Be like Bannockburn all over again, although with few actual Scots involved
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Also Celtic through to playoffs so don't have anything to play for.
Anyone thinking they will come to B6 and roll over is delusional
The notion that a Scottish team will come to us with ‘nothing to play for’ is miles off. They will be absolutely fired up. Should be a great night and I expect us to beat them but only just.
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To be honest, it's been a very good night for us so we still have a very good chance of top 8. I think the Barca / Atlanta game is the one. If the players can't raise their game for that, at a rocking Villa Park, I give up.
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We need to win by 2 goals more then Leverkusen do.
Any win and Atalanta don't win in Barcelona should be enough, providing teams behind us on same number of points don't win by large margins.
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Pretty good results overall, I'd have happily taken being 9th after our loss yesterday.
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We need to win, and win well, and trust that Barcelona will do the business at home to Atalanta. Just a shame that Girona couldn't equalise at AC.
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Celtic needed the jammiest of late own goals to beat the whipping (young) boys of the competition. We should be wiping the floor with them regardless of Meatball's allegiances.
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UEFA must be very chuffed this new format has created the jeopardy they so badly required.
I’ve just spent 20 minutes looking at next Wednesday’s fixtures plotting our route providing we beat Celtic.
I think we’re fortunate Atalanta have to go to Barcelona which gives us our chance for top 8. Very tight indeed.
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My lad’s just come up with this,
If we beat Celtic 1-0, Atalanta would have to win at Barca
(https://i.ibb.co/30ZB55N/IMG-8643.png) (https://ibb.co/30ZB55N)
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Seems like the results have been exceedingly kind to us tonight.
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Pretty good results overall, I'd have happily taken being 9th after our loss yesterday.
Yep, not too bad but frustrating to think where even one more point would have put us. A win next Wednesday should give us a decent chance of finishing in the top 8 though, so all to play for.
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Feyenoord battering Bayern is massive.
3-0 win with 23% possession and two shots on target. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Unai.
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Barcelona v Atalanta looks pretty key to me
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UEFA must be very chuffed this new format has created the jeopardy they so badly required.
The new format is great. Mad that only 3 points separate 8-24th spots going into the last round of games.
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If we had more point in the bag it would all be in our own hands.
1 bloody point….infuriating
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Seems like the results have been exceedingly kind to us tonight.
Yeah, didn't see Feyenoord beating Bayern, which is a massive boost with them having Slovan Bratislava at home next week.
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If we had more point in the bag it would all be in our own hands.
1 bloody point….infuriating
That last minute disallowed goal against Juventus was the big one.
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Let's be positive, this is a good day for us.
We've a better chance than we otherwise may have and a winnable game next week.
Will we go for steady control or just throw everything at a big big win....
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Barcelona v Atalanta looks pretty key to me
Hard to see Atalanta winning in Barcelona.
However.....
Barcelona have already qualified, will they play a weakened team ?
This Sunday they have Valencia at home.
Then on the Wednesday, it's Atalanta.
The Sunday after they have Alaves at home.
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Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
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If we had more point in the bag it would all be in our own hands.
1 bloody point….infuriating
That last minute disallowed goal against Juventus was the big one.
Both.
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If we had more point in the bag it would all be in our own hands.
1 bloody point….infuriating
Its really infuriating i agree. 0-0 would have been a good result. We are villa, we never do things easy.
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If we had more point in the bag it would all be in our own hands.
1 bloody point….infuriating
Totally so
Mings putting the ball in his own hands in Brugge has taken it out of our hands.
Still I think a win v Celtic would go along way to qualifying automatically as never know what can happen in other matches.
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Barcelona v Atalanta looks pretty key to me
I've always liked Barca, Més que un club and all that.
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seeing as Barcelona need money you'd think they want to get another win under their belt in this competiton. Each win is worth around 2MM euros
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Mings picks ball up vs Bruges, & the disallowed goal vs Juventus. That's 3 points better off we'd be - but you can't change the past.
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seeing as Barcelona need money you'd think they want to get another win under their belt in this competiton. Each win is worth around 2MM euros
Very good point, I'd overlooked that.
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Barcelona v Atalanta looks pretty key to me
Hard to see Atalanta winning in Barcelona.
However.....
Barcelona have already qualified, will they play a weakened team ?
This Sunday they have Valencia at home.
Then on the Wednesday, it's Atalanta.
The Sunday after they have Alaves at home.
The Barcelona game could be any score, Barca have +15 goal difference and are top scorers in the competition with 26 goals conceding 11 Atalanta have a +14 gd conceding only 4.
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seeing as Barcelona need money you'd think they want to get another win under their belt in this competiton. Each win is worth around 2MM euros
Top 2 teams in the league are seeded as well, so they'll want to finish above Arsenal.
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I'm sure I read there's some advantage, to do with seeding for the whole knockout phase, if you finish in the top 2 of the league stage.
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Let's be positive, this is a good day for us.
We've a better chance than we otherwise may have and a winnable game next week.
Will we go for steady control or just throw everything at a big big win....
Don’t think we need to win big and it may not make a y difference if we do. However, I do hope we set out to win big in terms of tempo from the off. Can’t wait to be there really, going to be a huge atmosphere
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I'm sure I read there's some advantage, to do with seeding for the whole knockout phase, if you finish in the top 2 of the league stage.
Not that I'm aware of. 1st and 2nd can't play each other until the final* but after the R16, home advantage second leg is random.
* Although that is the same for each pairing of two all the way down to 24. Ie, if 23rd and 24th won all their matches, they wouldn't meet until the final.
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I'm sure I read there's some advantage, to do with seeding for the whole knockout phase, if you finish in the top 2 of the league stage.
Not that I'm aware of. 1st and 2nd can't play each other until the final* but after the R16, home advantage second leg is random.
* Although that is the same for each pairing of two all the way down to 24. Ie, if 23rd and 24th won all their matches, they wouldn't meet until the final.
Why do UEFA have to over complicate everything. Just throw the balls in a hat . (Heat a couple up if you need to).
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Not too complicated unless someone is as dim as Coopers Injury, and as you aren't him you should be fine.
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We need one of the catchable teams to falter next week, most obvious one is Atalanta away at Barca, but lets not forget that we need to WIN our game comfortably to give us the best possible chance.
There are 5 other teams on the same points as us, so goal difference could also play a huge part next week.
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Have to say, after the Monaco game...I'd have taken ninth all day long. It's a bit of a minor miracle considering how many could've taken us. Need to take advantage now.
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City very fortunate to have a winner takes all game vs Bruges to scrap into the knockout round. Just our luck we draw them.
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If me auntie had you know what's...
...in actuality, tonight's results have been very good to us. Celtic cannot drop or rise from the play off positions. And if we win we just need one of the teams above us to not do so and we are in the 8. And frankly if we can't beat a Celtic team with little else than pride to play for then we don't deserve anything more than the playoffs
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It’s simple. The smell blood victims are Atletico and Atalanta. They may not win in Salzburg in which case as long as we win we are through. I don’t think both Atletico and Atalanta results will go against so I think we win we go to last 16. Monaco will at best get a draw in Milan and even if they will they need to win by 3/4, same with Lille v Feyenoord game. Most likely to be a draw.
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Celtic had 3 disallowed and a missed Pen!
We should beat them
And Barcelona hopefully beat Atalanta.
I didn’t realise until today there’s no draw for the last 16 or any other rounds.
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Commentators often mention a defender not “picking up a ball”.
Our hero Mings did so.
However, a totally off the wall event like that does not dictate the result of future games.
If that event had not happened we cannot predict the outcome.
In fact it should give more focus on the remaining games.
We did not do this.
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I didn’t realise until today there’s no draw for the last 16 or any other rounds.
Their is a draw for last 16 as the pairs have to be separated out into one side of the draw or the other. But then the sides are pretty much fixed.
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So, despite that shite result earlier this week, we are still looking OK for a top 8 finish if we beat Celtic and another result goes our way. I'd have taken that at the start of the tournament.
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I thought we'd get top 24 in the new format before the draw was made, top 8 seemed fanciful.
After the draw, I thought we'd almost certainly manage three wins with some extra points (maybe another win) picked up along the way.
So in some ways we've exceeded expectations. I think the disappointment has come from our defeats being in what were perceived as more winnable games. Then you forget the points above expectations from other games.
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But agree, we'd have all taken this position at the start of the season I reckon.
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Okay, if we win we will make top eight if AT LEAST THREE of the matches below go our way, as follows (some of the possibilities are not in any way likely but working it our was more fun than doing any work):
• Girona vs ARSENAL
Arsenal lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Arsenal games is at least 8
OR Arsenal lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Arsenal games is exactly 7 AND Villa score at least 6 more goals than Arsenal
OR Arsenal lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Arsenal games is exactly 7 AND Villa score exactly 5 more goals than Arsenal AND Arsenal score fewer than 2 goals
• INTER vs MONACO
Inter lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Inter games is exactly 3
OR Inter lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Inter games is exactly 2 AND Villa score more goals, the same number of goals or 1 goal fewer than Inter
OR Inter lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Inter games is at least 4 AND Monaco's margin of victory is smaller, the same or 1 goal greater than Villa's
OR Inter lose AND the combined margin of victory in the Villa/Inter games is at least 4 AND Monaco's margin of victory is exactly 2 goals greater than Villa's AND Villa score at least 5 more goals than Monaco
Note: if we win we are guaranteed to finish above at least one of Inter or Monaco, the above is what is required to finish above both.
• Salzburg vs ATLETICO MADRID
Atletico fail to win
• Dinamo Zagreb vs AC MILAN
Milan fail to win
• Barcelona vs ATALANTA
Atalanta fail to win
• LEVERKUSEN vs Sparta Prague
Leverkusen fail to win
OR Leverkusen win by at least 2 goals fewer than Villa
OR Leverkusen win by exactly 1 goal fewer than Villa AND Villa score at least 4 more goals than Leverkusen
• LILLE vs FEYENOORD
Match is a draw
OR either team wins AND the margin of victory is smaller, the same or 1 goal more than Villa's
OR Lille win AND the margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Villa's AND Villa score 3 or more goals more than Lille
OR Lille win AND the margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Villa's AND Villa score exactly 2 goals more than Lille AND our combined opponents' number points are greater than Lille's opponents' combined number of points (I haven't worked this bit out as there are too many possible combinations)
OR Feyenoord win AND the margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Villa's AND Villa score at least 9 more goals than Feyenoord
Note: if we win we are guaranteed to finish above at least one of Lille or Feyenoord, the above is what is required to finish above both.
• BREST vs Real Madrid
Brest fail to win
OR Brest win AND the margin of victory is smaller, the same or fewer than 3 goals more than Villa's
OR Brest win AND the margin of victory is exactly 3 goals more than Villa's AND Villa score at least 2 goals more than Brest
OR Brest win AND the margin of victory is exactly 3 goals more than Villa's AND Villa score exactly 1 goal more than Brest AND our combined opponents' number of points are greater than Brest's combined opponents' number of points
We can still mathematically qualify with a draw, however, it is so unlikely I can't be arsed to work out the scenarios in full, however we would probably need Leverkusen to lose, Lille vs Feyenoord and Brest vs Real Madrid to end as draws and all of Monaco, Dortmund, Bayern Munich, Juventus to fail to win, and for neither PSV nor Club Brugge to win by too many.
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Erm, isn’t it we win and Atlanta lose and we pretty much go through?
Unless one of the teams on the same points beneath us tonk their opposition, then we might have to score a few more against Celtic
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Excellent work cd. I can see you're as engaged with work as I am this morning.
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I'll leave you in charge of checking it to see if it's actually correct...
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Erm, isn’t it we win and Atlanta lose and we pretty much go through?
Unless one of the teams on the same points beneath us tonk their opposition, then we might have to score a few more against Celtic
If we win and Atalanta fail to win (a draw will do).
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Basically, we are probably through if we win and any of Atalanta, Atletico, AC Milan or Leverkusen fail to win or if Inter lose, assuming no weird results below us.
If we hammer Celtic we could still catch Leverkusen if they only manage a narrow win.
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Erm, isn’t it we win and Atlanta lose and we pretty much go through?
Unless one of the teams on the same points beneath us tonk their opposition, then we might have to score a few more against Celtic
Atlanta draw or lose, we win should do it.
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If we end up 9th there's a pretty good chance we play Man City, which would be an utterly terrible draw.
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It really would be. No idea why they can't separate teams from the same country. Can't we just say we refuse to recognise the existence of London, Greater Manchester or Merseyside, like Serbia do with Kosovo? That way we'll be banned from drawing any of the twats.
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Agree playing Man Citeh would be fucking terrible but I'm not sure it's a "pretty good chance". There's a hell of a lot of permutations down their end too.
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It's impossible to game the system for a perceived easier draw. Which is as it should be.
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Basically, we are probably through if we win and any of Atalanta, Atletico, AC Milan or Leverkusen fail to win or if Inter lose, assuming no weird results below us.
If we hammer Celtic we could still catch Leverkusen if they only manage a narrow win.
I thought needing three was over the top, then realised you probably included the ones below us as well.
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If we end up 9th there's a pretty good chance we play Man City, which would be an utterly terrible draw.
Would it though? I expect they are more worried about playing us.
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Well done, Chris; excellent work.
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If we end up 9th there's a pretty good chance we play Man City, which would be an utterly terrible draw.
Would it though? I expect they are more worried about playing us.
Well. Along with PSG they're probably the only team we could realistically get in the play offs who would be favourites against us, and playing Man City twice more would be pretty boring.
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Quality
https://x.com/K7_CMU/status/1882211860772180360
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It would be so unbelievably shit to end up facing City in the playoffs. Is there a scenario where towards the end of the Celtic game it will look like we are better off not winning so we can avoid them? Perhaps we bring on Olsen and Swinkels if so.
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We could conceivably draw with Celtic, then draw Celtic.
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It would be so unbelievably shit to end up facing City in the playoffs. Is there a scenario where towards the end of the Celtic game it will look like we are better off not winning so we can avoid them? Perhaps we bring on Olsen and Swinkels if so.
If we finished 9th and they finished 24th, we might still not get them as 23rd / 24th are drawn against the 9th/10 teams so it could be 9th/23rd and 10th/24th.
But to be honest, if we are winning and still in the play-offs, a lot of other results have massively gone against us.
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We could conceivably draw with Celtic, then draw Celtic.
I thought about this same scenario this morning. I know we beat them but i would also want to avoid bayern.
Would love brugges just so we cant put that one right. Even another game vs monaco over two legs i think we beat both
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My vote still goes to "finish in the top eight and hope as many big teams below us draw each other"
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Think we would all love that dave. All we need is to win and hope one of four clubs slips up amd we are sorted
Unfortunately most of the big teams playing each other has been avoided the last game week. Not one top 9 club is playing against one another annoyingly
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Think we would all love that dave. All we need is to win and hope one of four clubs slips up amd we are sorted
Unfortunately most of the big teams playing each other has been avoided the last game week. Not one top 9 club is playing against one another annoyingly
Apart from Barca/Atalanta. And go one more team down and it is Inter v Monaco.
But if position in the table meant a result was guaranteed a certain way, why did we lose to Monaco, why did Bayern lose to Feyenoord, why did Sporting lose to Leipzig. If we win 3-1, I think it would be a bigger shock if we were not in the top 8.
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If we end up 9th there's a pretty good chance we play Man City, which would be an utterly terrible draw.
Nan city will beat Brugge by 2/3 goals and finish 21st. If we don’t beat Celtic we will finish 10th and play either Benfica or Brugge. Hope it’s the Portuguese ballerinas. And all of this a fact…F.A.C.T.
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I actually wouldn’t mind playing the cheats from Manchester. I think we’d do ‘em over two legs. Would be chuffing marvellous to knock them out.
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If we end up 9th there's a pretty good chance we play Man City, which would be an utterly terrible draw.
Nan city will beat Brugge by 2/3 goals and finish 21st. If we don’t beat Celtic we will finish 10th and play either Benfica or Brugge. Hope it’s the Portuguese ballerinas. And all of this a fact…F.A.C.T.
We'd better get ready to (blue) rinse and repeat our best performances if we want to progress.
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Beat Celtic and we will make it over the line.
Of the five other results we'd be watching, we'd feel that about half of them might ordinarily go in our favour.
Factor in the odd CL leftfield result, and we're home and dry.
Key thing is ensuring that we ourselves don't become the CL leftfield result, of course.
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Having watched the Celtic highlights they appeared to be quite quick up front and pressed well. As has been said first and foremost we need to do our job, after that, hopefully, the rest will fall into place.
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Having watched the Celtic highlights they appeared to be quite quick up front and pressed well. As has been said first and foremost we need to do our job, after that, hopefully, the rest will fall into place.
I thought one player looked great but seems he is off to Rennes
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Maeda is probably their best player and he's banned
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When we got into the Champions League just getting out of the group was the aim. Now we're talking about top eight; whatever happens we've done well.
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Has anyone had their Celtic ticket yet ?
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Without getting ahead of ourselves , if we finish 8th( or 7th) it’s Liverpool or Barca in the last 8
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Without getting ahead of ourselves , if we finish 8th( or 7th) it’s Liverpool or Barca in the last 8
What do you mean?
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Without getting ahead of ourselves , if we finish 8th( or 7th) it’s Liverpool or Barca in the last 8
Unless of course they get knocked out. For example they could currently be playing Bayern, Real, Juve or Celtic. (not that I expect those would be in those places after next weeks matches.)
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Has anyone had their Celtic ticket yet ?
Nope
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Without getting ahead of ourselves , if we finish 8th( or 7th) it’s Liverpool or Barca in the last 8
What do you mean?
Draws are pretty much set after the R16 until the final, and the winner of the match against 1st or 2nd and the one of the teams who finished 15/18 then plays the the winner of 7/8th and whoever wins the 9/10th,23/24th match.
(https://documents.uefa.com/api/khub/maps/0wI_a8EkcYx57ZFHbGY~dQ/resources/tstw6lz2qKhJLxG2jtbnkQ-0wI_a8EkcYx57ZFHbGY~dQ/content?v=e2170faaf6ec50d9&Ft-Calling-App=ft/turnkey-portal)
Multiple numbers for each one so they can try to head off trying to garner the system and aiming to miss a known opponent.
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Without getting ahead of ourselves , if we finish 8th( or 7th) it’s Liverpool or Barca in the last 8
What do you mean?
Draws are pretty much set after the R16 until the final, and the winner of the match against 1st or 2nd and the one of the teams who finished 15/18 then plays the the winner of 7/8th and whoever wins the 9/10th,23/24th match.
(https://documents.uefa.com/api/khub/maps/0wI_a8EkcYx57ZFHbGY~dQ/resources/tstw6lz2qKhJLxG2jtbnkQ-0wI_a8EkcYx57ZFHbGY~dQ/content?v=e2170faaf6ec50d9&Ft-Calling-App=ft/turnkey-portal)
Multiple numbers for each one so they can try to head off trying to garner the system and aiming to miss a known opponent.
Thanks for this wasnt aware thought it would just be a draw.
If we qualified for next phase i am happy as i thought we would struggle to get past the group stage. If we did get through then to play barcelona or liverpool. If we went out to either of them then no problem for me as two excellent sides
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Bit like Wimbledon tennis then
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Really looking forward to Wednesday night.
However, I’m just hoping that with 6 days warning, Villa are fully prepared after what happened at Old Trafford last night. Some pretty grim stories coming out this morning and there appear to be numbers of tickets available on secondary sites.
Part of the problem appeared that the stewards and security didn’t want to get involved at all.
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Really looking forward to Wednesday night.
However, I’m just hoping that with 6 days warning, Villa are fully prepared after what happened at Old Trafford last night. Some pretty grim stories coming out this morning and there appear to be numbers of tickets available on secondary sites.
Part of the problem appeared that the stewards and security didn’t want to get involved at all.
Think I will give myself extra time for getting into the ground as I imagine security checks will be beefed up after the trouble last night.
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Really looking forward to Wednesday night.
However, I’m just hoping that with 6 days warning, Villa are fully prepared after what happened at Old Trafford last night. Some pretty grim stories coming out this morning and there appear to be numbers of tickets available on secondary sites.
Part of the problem appeared that the stewards and security didn’t want to get involved at all.
Think I will give myself extra time for getting into the ground as I imagine security checks will be beefed up after the trouble last night.
I really hope they are and will need the Old Bill on hand because those Celtic fans will not go easily.
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There'll be some in home ends, it's impossible to stop it happening. Look at how many thought it was great so many were in the home stands against Monaco.
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What happened at Old Trafford?
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Manchester United say they cannot "completely eliminate" the possibility of away fans obtaining tickets in areas designated for home supporters at Old Trafford.
More than 3,500 Rangers fans were in the away end for Thursday's Europa League game between the sides but television footage showed dozens more celebrating an 88th-minute equaliser in a game they lost 2-1.
United say they took a number of "strict" preventative measures to block away fans securing tickets in the home end and the club insists tickets were only allocated to supporters on the club's database.
But the club acknowledged that, given the "unauthorised touting of tickets", they could not "completely eliminate" the possibility of away fans sitting in the home end.
United will launch a full investigation into how tickets for home areas reached Rangers fans and say they will impose the "strongest possible sanctions" against registered ticket holders found to be in breach of regulations.
Following the match, Greater Manchester Police said they made 39 arrests across the night - 26 of which came following disorder in the city centre.
The club apologised to supporters in 2023 after more than 2000 Galatasaray fans were allowed to access the home section for a Champions League match at Old Trafford.
The Turkish club were fined £44,420 for the behaviour of their supporters at the stadium.
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It will be carnage in Bham city centre on Wednesday.
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It won't be.
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No, it won't be at all.
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I know arrests doesn't = incidents but those numbers don't seem that high. Wonder how it compares to a "normal" matchday
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I'd usually say it's hyperbole about their being issues around town etc but this game does have the potential for it. Hopefully there won't be but the potential for it is a lot higher than usual.
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I'd usually say it's hyperbole about their being issues around town etc but this game does have the potential for it. Hopefully there won't be but the potential for it is a lot higher than usual.
I'd say that both teams are through to the play-offs, so there's not likely to be a nasty element of pissed-off folk if things go wrong.
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It won't be.
Give us tonights lottery numbers as well if you could be so kind 👌
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If there are any issues outside the ground it will be because of off the pitch stuff.
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You wait and see how many celtic fans are going to turn up. It will be more than what people think.
Thats my prediction anyway
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It won't be.
Give us tonights lottery numbers as well if you could be so kind 👌
No.
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You wait and see how many celtic fans are going to turn up. It will be more than what people think.
Thats my prediction anyway
Agree but don't think they're as wankerish as Rangers fans.
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Could the Celtic fans buy GA+ tickets or are they restricted to people with a Villa client ID and booking history?
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The home club has to allow for UEFA having over a thousand tickets for distribution to UEFA partners (some free but most the home club get paid for) so it’s inevitable that when Celtic or Rangers are visiting there will be away fans in the home sections. Those tickets also have to be in the higher end price brackets.
On top of that it’ll look like even more Celtic fans are in there because there’ll be Villa fans who buy half and half scarves and don’t have the common sense to hide the green half.
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There'll probably be the odd scuffle but if, and I really hope there isn't, there is anything of note it will be more political than football.
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If Rod Stewarts anywhere near me I'm weighing in
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You wait and see how many celtic fans are going to turn up. It will be more than what people think.
Thats my prediction anyway
Agree but don't think they're as wankerish as Rangers fans.
This seems to be being overlooked.
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Reading this thread you’d think some Mongol horde are about to descend. Usually when these types of things get hyped in the feverish minds of people, the whole thing goes off without a hitch and everyone is then left with egg on their face. I sit near a Hospitality section in the Upper Trinity, I’ll report back with any suggestion of ne’erdowells and ruffians.
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The home club has to allow for UEFA having over a thousand tickets for distribution to UEFA partners (some free but most the home club get paid for) so it’s inevitable that when Celtic or Rangers are visiting there will be away fans in the home sections. Those tickets also have to be in the higher end price brackets.
On top of that it’ll look like even more Celtic fans are in there because there’ll be Villa fans who buy half and half scarves and don’t have the common sense to hide the green half.
A half and half Scarfe is an invitation for a bit of a slap.
Certainly merits an appearance in COTW.
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Looks almost certain top 5 will qualify next season. We really need to pull out finger out.
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We've had Legia here, and we hosted Hibs last season too. Both went reasonably well given the size of the following etc.
I think it should be ok.
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No one will be left with egg on their face as no is saying it will be a warzone. You'd have to be pretty naive though to think that Celtic in Birmingham doesn't have the potential to have issues we wouldn't usually have. Hopefully fuck all happens apart from football.
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Reading this thread you’d think some Mongol horde are about to descend. Usually when these types of things get hyped in the feverish minds of people, the whole thing goes off without a hitch and everyone is then left with egg on their face. I sit near a Hospitality section in the Upper Trinity, I’ll report back with any suggestion of ne’erdowells and ruffians.
As I said earlier security is likely to be a bit tighter so getting into the ground will probably be a pain.
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There'll be some in home ends, it's impossible to stop it happening. Look at how many thought it was great so many were in the home stands against Monaco.
Bit of a difference between going in the home end against a team with a small number of supports who aren’t fanatical in a ground that’s got a neutral section as well. You pick the games where you do it, anywhere is risky but certain games pose a bigger risk.
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If Rod Stewarts anywhere near me I'm weighing in
I always preferred Johnny Logan.
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If Rod Stewarts anywhere near me I'm weighing in
Tonight's the night, motherfucker!
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You wait and see how many celtic fans are going to turn up. It will be more than what people think.
Thats my prediction anyway
Agree but don't think they're as wankerish as Rangers fans.
Hopefully not
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It will be interesting as the other teams lot struck me as Rangers fans rather the Celtic, so I doubt they will be casually singing anti-villa songs together in town.
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The difference between Celtic and Rangers fans as groups would be similar to us and the rags in my view.
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Apparently damage to celtic park caused by winds ...ov course all there fans saying cancel their game at the weekend to rest for villa !! Conveniant that is !!!
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If Rod Stewarts anywhere near me I'm weighing in
Tonight's the night, motherfucker!
Brilliant
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There'll be some in home ends, it's impossible to stop it happening. Look at how many thought it was great so many were in the home stands against Monaco.
Bit of a difference between going in the home end against a team with a small number of supports who aren’t fanatical in a ground that’s got a neutral section as well. You pick the games where you do it, anywhere is risky but certain games pose a bigger risk.
Agreed. I’ve been amongst home fans in Warsaw, Lille, Bruges and Monaco over the past 18 months and they were different experiences.
Id say every person behind the goal in Monaco was a Villa fan and their officials were fine with that. It was a moot point anyway as we had nothing to celebrate.
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To show how ridiculously well other results went for us this week, I’ll just point out that, according to the excellent twitter account @footballmeetsdata our chances of finishing in the top eight increased by 10% after game week 7.
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Celtics game this weekend is off now.
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Even the storms are going against us now
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Understandable considering they will be idiots on both sides up for it
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Given most Celtic fans will be not even in the ground I'd expect more trouble in town or surrounding areas .
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Yes, it'll be like all those other Celtic away games in Europe. I'd advise anyone with a B postcode to sell up before Wednesday.
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Great advantage for them having the game off. But really thats still no excuse for us not to win that
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To show how ridiculously well other results went for us this week, I’ll just point out that, according to the excellent twitter account @footballmeetsdata our chances of finishing in the top eight increased by 10% after game week 7.
I did the predictor on the UEFA website first with us winning 1-0, then drawing and then losing 1-0. The defeat saw us finish 17th… but we still manage to go on and play Man City in the final.
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Yes, it'll be like all those other Celtic away games in Europe. I'd advise anyone with a B postcode to sell up before Wednesday.
I am expecting Mel Gibson and Brendan Gleeson with facepaint and big axes, rampaging down witton lane
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Why do people get so worried about a couple of hours in what will almost certainly be the most heavily-policed place in the country?
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Why do people get so worried about a couple of hours in what will almost certainly be the most heavily-policed place in the country?
Probably legia last season had people on edge. But generally its been absolutely fine everyone else
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Why do people get so worried about a couple of hours in what will almost certainly be the most heavily-policed place in the country?
Probably legia last season had people on edge. But generally its been absolutely fine everyone else
Was that today game when hardly any of our supporters got anywhere near to any of theirs?
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Why do people get so worried about a couple of hours in what will almost certainly be the most heavily-policed place in the country?
Probably legia last season had people on edge. But generally its been absolutely fine everyone else
Was that today game when hardly any of our supporters got anywhere near to any of theirs?
Todays game eh? Not sure what you mean
Their fans were not let in the ground so of course we were kept seperate to ours. Alot of fans were abit scared that night because of a section if their fan base and no shame in that if they are.
All it takes is a lot of celtic fans sitting in villa areas and celtic score and then it will kick off.
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Its amazed me, how many friends don't want my ticket for Celtic, as they are worried about trouble with Celtic fans.
Why do people get so worried about a couple of hours in what will almost certainly be the most heavily-policed place in the country?
Probably legia last season had people on edge. But generally its been absolutely fine everyone else
Was that today game when hardly any of our supporters got anywhere near to any of theirs?
Todays game eh? Not sure what you mean
Their fans were not let in the ground so of course we were kept seperate to ours. Alot of fans were abit scared that night because of a section if their fan base and no shame in that if they are.
All it takes is a lot of celtic fans sitting in villa areas and celtic score and then it will kick off.
Nothing happened in the legia game apart from a few idiots threw some plastic bottles of mayonnaise at the Holte End.
Don’t think theres any point in musing on it potentially kicking off inside the ground.
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Given most Celtic fans will be not even in the ground I'd expect more trouble in town or surrounding areas .
You predicted trouble at the Blues v Rangers game in the summer. Thankfully, there was the square root of f.a. Give it a break.
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Good mate , ST holder at Celtic . Initially when drawn he was predicting 20k travelling down . In peace . Now he's saying he doesn't know how many but all he says is they have some bars lined up in Digbeth.
There'll be enough local Celtic to fill the bars , how many travel without tickets no idea but I doubt 20k very much .
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Yes, it'll be like all those other Celtic away games in Europe. I'd advise anyone with a B postcode to sell up before Wednesday.
I am expecting Mel Gibson and Brendan Gleeson with facepaint and big axes, rampaging down witton lane
Brian Gleason would be Villa surely like his da?
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I meant 'the' game and their fans weren't not let in - they refused.
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When are club sending out tickets for Wednesday? Not received anything so far?
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From today, according to the email. I've not had mine yet.
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Ah ok, thanks.
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If we can get into the top 8 and Liverpool get to the League Cup final, not only do we get an easier February, we get a three-week break in March as well.
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That would be great and well needed. God please let it happen
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If we can get into the top 8 and Liverpool get to the League Cup final, not only do we get an easier February, we get a three-week break in March as well.
That could be great for the squad. Fingers crossed this happens.
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That would be great and well needed. God please let it happen
So, I’ve just checked after listening to John Townley vaguely rambling on about it. We’ve got a PL game on Tuesday 25th Feb then the weekend off, hopefully CL first leg 4/5th, a PL game on the 8th, CL second leg 11/12th, THEN the Liverpool game we might have to postpone, THEN an international break.
So there’s some much-needed time off at least.
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If we can get into the top 8 and Liverpool get to the League Cup final, not only do we get an easier February, we get a three-week break in March as well.
That could be great for the squad. Fingers crossed this happens.
And presumably the Liverpool game would be rescheduled for very late in the season, by which time they could have plausible wrapped up the title.
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We've only got the weekend of 1 March off if we go out of the cup
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We've only got the weekend of 1 March off if we go out of the cup
Oh shit. Thanks.
I’d beg - just for once - for an easy home draw, but many would say we’ve had two already.
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Good mate , ST holder at Celtic . Initially when drawn he was predicting 20k travelling down . In peace . Now he's saying he doesn't know how many but all he says is they have some bars lined up in Digbeth.
There'll be enough local Celtic to fill the bars , how many travel without tickets no idea but I doubt 20k very much .
That's the thing, it will hardly be a hostile welcome for them in Birmingham seeing as there are a good number of pubs and clubs that would have Celtic links anyway.
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They're coming for a party not a war, qualifying for the knockouts is massive for them given how shit they've been in Europe for years.
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They are coming for a war- on the pitch that is. They will desperate to beat us. Just hope we are ready to do the same not like the last two horrific performances
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Maybe, or maybe they have achieved what they wanted by qualifying and won't want to risk injury or anything. They are still in 4 competitions themselves.
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I'm hoping with them already qualified there might be a step down in intensity.
Can we play Swinkels at the back?
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TNT Sports:
"Now is where it gets interesting, with Aston Villa's fate wholly unknown.
Unai Emery's men won their first three games in this year's competition, but have only won once in their last four, slipping to ninth as it stands, one place outside the automatic qualification spots.
With 14 teams currently having between 12 and 15 points - Villa have 13 - there is going to be a royal bun fight on the final night, with the Villans hosting Celtic targeting a win to boost their top-eight hopes"
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Nice use of the Royal Bun Fight there!
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Yep, Wills would be proud.
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If we can get into the top 8 and Liverpool get to the League Cup final, not only do we get an easier February, we get a three-week break in March as well.
That could be great for the squad. Fingers crossed this happens.
And presumably the Liverpool game would be rescheduled for very late in the season, by which time they could have plausible wrapped up the title.
There was a spell in the 1970s where Liverpool seemed to wrap up the league at Anfield by beating us by 3 goals. At least we’ve already played them away.
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Carlos, Philogene, Buendia leaves three spaces to be filled. Garcia and Malen plus one other. If we sell a fourth, we leave ourselves weaker in CL squad going forward.
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Carlos, Philogene, Buendia leaves three spaces to be filled. Garcia and Malen plus one other. If we sell a fourth, we leave ourselves weaker in CL squad going forward.
Philogene was filling a club-trained spot, so we can't stick one of new guys there.
Our CL squad for the next stage will be 22 players I think.
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I thought being as he left and came back, that didn't matter anymore.
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I thought being as he left and came back, that didn't matter anymore.
Of the 25 players, eight need to be "association trained", so played in the same country for three years, irrespective of the player's nationality, between the ages of 15 to 21.
And of those eight, four need to be "locally trained", so on the club's books, irrespective of the player's nationality and age, for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21.
So Philogene (and Ramsey) were our two players that met the latter criteria, leaving us two spots short of our full 25. We're now three spots short, so a squad of 22.
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Can we not add the likes of Bogarde, Zych, Swinkels, Barry, Etc?
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They're young enough that they don't need to be included in the squad of 25.
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Qualified, phenomenal. Yeeeeahhhhh
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We're through!!!
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WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT
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Fantastic..
UP THE VILLA
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UP THE FUCKING VILLA!
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Done, fucking immense achievement to get into the top 8. Big money in the bank as well, with a 5year contract it's enough to cover a £35-40m signing.
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Wheyyy!
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Superb Villa. Just superb. Well done, lads
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We play one of the two winners of the game between PSG/Benefica v Monaco/Brest.
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Well done!! we didnt make it easy - but with 2 players out of position in the back 4 really well done!!
Now lets sort out this transfer window bollocks and beat wolves at the weekend.
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Stressful but I have to say the new format does seem more exciting
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Well done Villa, suffice as to say in spite of some weird football, we earned that, when you look at this first attempt CL, astonishing, Rogers was amazing, saying we might face Atlanta.
Agree with the comment about the new format, it works.
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I am so happy and so proud.
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Just putting the house on the market to be able to afford a couple of tickets for the next round.
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
It it? Thought it was the winners of 15/18th positions. Apologies.
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Old school - yeah last 16. Let's not get excited
New school - probably similar to League Cup wins in 1970s
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We play one of the two winners of the game between PSG/Benefica v Monaco/Brest.
Thanks somni i was wondering who.
Hopefully monaco as we hava a score to settle with them. Is 2nd leg at villa park do we know?
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Some decent teams knocking each other out.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/fixtures-results/bracket/
PSG could be against Liverpool or Barca, although we play the winners of those in the quarters if we get through.
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We play one of the two winners of the game between PSG/Benefica v Monaco/Brest.
Thanks somni i was wondering who.
Hopefully monaco as we hava a score to settle with them. Is 2nd leg at villa park do we know?
Turned out I was wrong, look at the link above.
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City have Real or Dortmund.
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We play one of the two winners of the game between PSG/Benefica v Monaco/Brest.
Thanks somni i was wondering who.
Hopefully monaco as we hava a score to settle with them. Is 2nd leg at villa park do we know?
Turned out I was wrong, look at the link above.
Thats ok we all make mistakes
Fuck me i wouldnt want dortmund.
Would be great id its brugges as we have a score to settle with them
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
It it? Thought it was the winners of 15/18th positions. Apologies.
Uhhhh, dunno...SSN was saying what I put.
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City have Real or Dortmund.
Bayern?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GifkWrUWgAAUy6i?format=jpg&name=large)
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City have Real or Dortmund.
Bayern?
Bloody hell, I'm having a bad night.
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
It it? Thought it was the winners of 15/18th positions. Apologies.
Uhhhh, dunno...SSN was saying what I put.
Which was the correct one. I thought 8th played middle lot, but I suppose that would have not been "fair" for the top 2.
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Have we got the easier bracket?
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Have we got the easier bracket?
Possibly...wouldn't want Atalanta though, they score goals.
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Atlanta are very very good.
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Atlanta are very very good.
Thanfully they are in the MLS and not the Champions League.
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Have we got the easier bracket?
Yes and I can see us trashing Liverpool in the quarters in April with players back from injury and a new sining or two from this window ;)
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Lille in the quarters. Liverpool or Barca in the semi
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Lille in the quarters. Liverpool or Barca in the semi
They are crapping their pants. We have never lost to any of them in Europe
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Lille in the quarters. Liverpool or Barca in the semi
They are crapping their pants. We have never lost to any of them in Europe
You may want to check that again.
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Lille in the quarters. Liverpool or Barca in the semi
They are crapping their pants. We have never lost to any of them in Europe
You may want to check that again.
Ahh - forgot about one time
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We've no clue what bracket we've got until Feb 21st
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Tremendous achievement getting top 8. I didn't think it possible but Unai has us doing the impossible time after time.
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So round of 16 we will be away 4th or 5th March, then home 11th or 12th March. Brentford away in the league in between.
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Only just spotted the last playoff is Italian/Dutch v Dutch/Italian. Can they be drawn against their countrymen or will they auto seperate them?
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So round of 16 we will be away 4th or 5th March, then home 11th or 12th March. Brentford away in the league in between.
Tough away game.
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GOOD GUYS
Barcelona (just about)
Dinamo Zagreb
WANKS
Monaco
Salzburg
Sparta Prague
Club Brugge
UTTER MASSIVE TWATS WHO DESERVE COMMUNAL HERPES
Feyenoord
Credit again to our SIJ, his goal last week proved decisive.
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Put Brugge in the wanks column as well.
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Only just spotted the last playoff is Italian/Dutch v Dutch/Italian. Can they be drawn against their countrymen or will they auto seperate them?
They can be drawn together, disappointingly. Not so bad when it's teams like Juventus and Milan that are in the Champions League all the time. But shite for someone like Stade Brestois who go to the trouble of getting to the knockouts in their first ever European Cup campaign, only to face the prospect of playing PSG for the hundredth time.
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Somehow the 4th best defensive record...
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Put Brugge in the wanks column as well.
Fair, done. If Man City were going to win I'd rather they'd twatted Brugge by so many goals thar Zagreb qualified. Feel like their win over Milan made them a more deserving qualifier than Colin Farrell's mob, who are only in the knockouts because of their freak goal against us.
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
Can't really argue with that in the last 16 of the Champions League. Do the top 8 seeds get the 2nd leg at home?
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Yep.
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Lille or Aston Villa play either Sporting/ Brugge/ Atlanta/ Dortmund.
Can't really argue with that in the last 16 of the Champions League. Do the top 8 seeds get the 2nd leg at home?
Yes
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Somehow the 4th best defensive record...
Hmmm… interesting.
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Genuinely wouldn't have thought stats like this would be your kind of thing, mate.
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If man city draw real madrid would be absolutely hilarious
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Atalanta
Dortmund
Sporting Lisbon
Bruges.
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Fuck me it was close wasn’t it? I was only concentrating on the results of the teams above us, as I didn’t think, as long as we won, anyone would overtake us. Didn’t contemplate Lille winning 6 fucking 1. Phew!
And thanks to Celtic for getting that brilliant draw at Atalanta.
Saying that, if we’d have taken our chances we could have finished sixth.
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Fuck me it was close wasn’t it? I was only concentrating on the results of the teams above us, as I didn’t think, as long as we won, anyone would overtake us. Didn’t contemplate Lille winning 6 fucking 1. Phew!
And thanks to Celtic for getting that brilliant draw at Atalanta.
Saying that, if we’d have taken our chances we could have finished sixth.
We'd have been 6th if Tyrone didn't pick up the ball. Lots of if's buts and maybes, but though we were all watching the Atalanta game until the 99th minute, we weren't that far away from a comfortable qualification.
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Fuck me it was close wasn’t it? I was only concentrating on the results of the teams above us, as I didn’t think, as long as we won, anyone would overtake us. Didn’t contemplate Lille winning 6 fucking 1. Phew!
And thanks to Celtic for getting that brilliant draw at Atalanta.
Saying that, if we’d have taken our chances we could have finished sixth.
We'd have been 6th if Tyrone didn't pick up the ball. Lots of if's buts and maybes, but though we were all watching the Atalanta game until the 99th minute, we weren't that far away from a comfortable qualification.
Yeah but we knew that before the game (the Tyrone thing). I only noticed the near-significance of the Lille rout this morning when I noticed they were seventh on the same points and goal difference. If they’d have won 5-1 we’d have been above them.
If that was between 8th and 9th we’d have been gutted with that 6th goal.
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(https://i.ibb.co/4w6c3NZK/f84795f5-d8f3-42ae-aa29-6ccab939c9a9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4w6c3NZK)
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(https://i.ibb.co/4w6c3NZK/f84795f5-d8f3-42ae-aa29-6ccab939c9a9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4w6c3NZK)
😂😂
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(https://i.ibb.co/5g6Y4xbq/cc0011cd-6a48-42ed-b079-32c877a4d31a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5g6Y4xbq)
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(https://i.ibb.co/5g6Y4xbq/cc0011cd-6a48-42ed-b079-32c877a4d31a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5g6Y4xbq)
Haha, amazing.
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Why do the water the pitch at this time of year!? It probably contributed to the slip.
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Why do the water the pitch at this time of year!? It probably contributed to the slip.
Morgan slipped scoring the 4th too, I imagine these is some sort of internal inquiry going on with the grounds staff this morning. If there is a fine line between "a watered pitch that optimises our passing game" and "waterlogged so people slip", then we were the wrong side of it last night.
Imagine if we'd missed out to Lille on goal difference. We'd be livid.
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A fantastic achievement by Villa qualifying automatically for last 16. We've come a long way in a relatively short period of time.
Btw groundsman, sort the pitch out please.
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You could actually hear how wet the pitch was when the players ran down the wings by us, I have never heard it before. Anyway, to get into the top 8 of the league is incredible, and it looks like the draw will be kind to us compared to other potential teams we could be playing.
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Doesnt matter who we draw next really. We were all happy just to get a play off spot. We exceeded this sow hatvwill be will be. Im not worried just going to enjoy the rest of it! Would be great if we can go far in the competition
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Doesnt matter who we draw next really. We were all happy just to get a play off spot. We exceeded this sow hatvwill be will be. Im not worried just going to enjoy the rest of it! Would be great if we can go far in the competition
I can absolutely guarantee that you will not just “enjoy it”. You’ll be calling our players clowns etc, as usual.
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Doesnt matter who we draw next really. We were all happy just to get a play off spot. We exceeded this sow hatvwill be will be. Im not worried just going to enjoy the rest of it! Would be great if we can go far in the competition
I can absolutely guarantee that you will not just “enjoy it”. You’ll be calling our players clowns etc, as usual.
I can absolute gurantee that you will troll as usual and here we are.
Yesterday was a great night so stop trying to pick a argument
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Doesnt matter who we draw next really. We were all happy just to get a play off spot. We exceeded this sow hatvwill be will be. Im not worried just going to enjoy the rest of it!
Yeah, look how happy you were with "just a play off spot"
U wankers
Unacceptable
Unai has totally fucked this up.
We bottled it against monaco whoch waa bad enough but somehow we have managed to top that tonight in this first half.
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We all get emotional in one way or another. Demetri obviously sees H&V as a safe space to vent when things are tense. The tension last night was horrible.
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Hahahaha!
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So looking at that schedule for the last 16 and Quarter Final, when do we find out which half of the draw we are in ?
Am I reading it right that if we're in the top half, we will play all our home games 2nd, even against Liverpool or Barcelona, and if we're in the bottom half we play at home 1st, apart from the last 16 game where we are definitely at home 2nd ?
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What happens in the match thread stays in the match thread.
Or it should do, anyway.
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So looking at that schedule for the last 16 and Quarter Final, when do we find out which half of the draw we are in ?
Am I reading it right that if we're in the top half, we will play all our home games 2nd, even against Liverpool or Barcelona, and if we're in the bottom half we play at home 1st, apart from the last 16 game where we are definitely at home 2nd ?
We will know on 21st Feb. That will also include draws for the other stages and home/away legs are decided then. The only thing we know for sure is we can't play our draw partner until the final if we both get that far. ie Lille will be in one side and we will be in the other.
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Whoever at the club is responsible for those giant Tifos and particularly the one last night should be applauded, they look absolute class.
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
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We all get emotional in one way or another. Demetri obviously sees H&V as a safe space to vent when things are tense. The tension last night was horrible.
Exactly thanks lee and i agree should stay in the match thread but dave a ex moderator is deciding to cause a argument.
Why? We should all be on cloud 9 now but the usual suspects more interested in causing arguments.
We all say things in heat in the moment
Im just delighted we qualified
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Qualified , top 8 , automatic.
What a fantastic achievement from the players and management and the fans have also played a big part.
Absolutely delighted .
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I see Dave is hiding in the ex-moderators' club. Too scared to answer for his crimes. They're probably all in there, trawling through posts from as long ago as last night. Cowards.
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Whoever at the club is responsible for those giant Tifos and particularly the one last night should be applauded, they look absolute class.
It's not someone at the club it's an Aberdonian chap, I was talking to him after the West Ham cup game. Nice bloke.
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
Dave is an Ex-mod? When did that happen?
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Our potential opponents for the round of 16 are:
Sporting / Club Brugge / Atalanta / B Dortmund
If Tyrone Mings hadn’t picked up the ball against Brugge they would be:
Celtic / Man City / Real Madrid / Bayern Munich
Cheers Ty
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Great another off topic post that not many people care about 🤘
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We all get emotional in one way or another. Demetri obviously sees H&V as a safe space to vent when things are tense. The tension last night was horrible.
I managed to not type and send a message calling one of our best players a clown, because the pitch fell apart. Amongst other knee jerk stuff.
But yeah, it should be a safe space to say what you want, but that also might get brought up in a discussion where said poster says they’re just going to be happy with whatever now. I’m looking forward to it.
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Whoever at the club is responsible for those giant Tifos and particularly the one last night should be applauded, they look absolute class.
It's not someone at the club it's an Aberdonian chap, I was talking to him after the West Ham cup game. Nice bloke.
Does he make them up, bring them down and the club hang them?
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Our potential opponents for the round of 16 are:
Sporting / Club Brugge / Atalanta / B Dortmund
If Tyrone Mings hadn’t picked up the ball against Brugge they would be:
Celtic / Man City / Real Madrid / Bayern Munich
Cheers Ty
But we have beat 3 of that lot already this season, only Real to knock over.
The 4 we've got, we've already lost to 2 of them this season.
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
Dave is an Ex-mod? When did that happen?
He saw Sting working as a hotel porter and became disillusioned.
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Hahaha!
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
Dave is an Ex-mod? When did that happen?
He saw Sting working as a hotel porter and became disillusioned.
Lovely stuff.
“BELLBOOOOYYY”!!!!
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
Don't worry, it's nothing personal.
If other people had spent the match thread saying that the players were clowns, embarrassments and disgraces only to then incoherently pivot to how they're all conquering heroes of whom we should be proud, then I'd take the piss out of them as well.
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Sad to see a once-great moderator embroiled in scandal like this.
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Sad to see a once-great moderator embroiled in scandal like this.
Where is PWS?
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What about the other posts dave ? Why you singling me out? As a ex mod its pretty sad that you have to dig through pages of posts in a seperate thread? Yet Ignore all the other ones
Why is that dave ? Explain
Don't worry, it's nothing personal.
If other people had spent the match thread saying that the players were clowns, embarrassments and disgraces only to then incoherently pivot to how they're all conquering heroes of whom we should be proud, then I'd take the piss out of them as well.
Of course its personal. Only you know why. I post something positive you and one other chose to throw digs at me. If i post negative then ill get digs so cant win can i?
As i stated you chose to bring the posts in this seperate thread so instead of criticising myself independently when there was various other posters doing the same thing (which unlike yourself i wont do as people can post and react as they want) you should be apologising for taking this off subject and trying to inflame a argument. You should know better as a ex mod.
Anyway thats my final post on it as this a champions league thread and i would rather focus on what we have achieved on a remarkable night and what we have as achieved as a club.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
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https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1884943040801845393
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Does anyone know if Schmeichel roughed up the penalty spot? The bloke next to me was on about it and then when I was speaking to me mother last night she said he'd got previous for doing that against Ross County. I didn't notice though, and it wasn't on the MOTD highlights.
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Does anyone know if Schmeichel roughed up the penalty spot? The bloke next to me was on about it and then when I was speaking to me mother last night she said he'd got previous for doing that against Ross County. I didn't notice though, and it wasn't on the MOTD highlights.
Your mother appears to have a long memory for perceived personal slights on matters of minor importance. She would be a welcome addition to the forum.
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https://x.com/BBCMOTD/status/1884943040801845393
I did see that dying salmon.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Yeah, apparently Weller's turn to soul boy with the Style Council was the last straw.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Dave's non-mod status was news to me, too. I've been arguing under false pretences. It's like writing a letter to "The Prime Minister" and getting a reply from Liz Truss.
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Does anyone know if Schmeichel roughed up the penalty spot? The bloke next to me was on about it and then when I was speaking to me mother last night she said he'd got previous for doing that against Ross County. I didn't notice though, and it wasn't on the MOTD highlights.
No he didn't. We were a bit slow on the uptake of what he might get up to, but Ginny got the ball fairly quickly and went and stood over it. Think Youri then stood in front of him when Schmeichel did walk up with a second ball in his hands. Youri laughed at him and shoved him away.
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Does anyone know if Schmeichel roughed up the penalty spot? The bloke next to me was on about it and then when I was speaking to me mother last night she said he'd got previous for doing that against Ross County. I didn't notice though, and it wasn't on the MOTD highlights.
No he didn't. We were a bit slow on the uptake of what he might get up to, but Ginny got the ball fairly quickly and went and stood over it. Think Youri then stood in front of him when Schmeichel did walk up with a second ball in his hands. Youri laughed at him and shoved him away.
A poundland attempt at Martinez chicanery that was laughed out of town as it should be.
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To be fair to Kasper, thought he played really well given he lost his arm in that challenge with Ramsey a few years back.
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Ha! Ta for answer.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Dave's non-mod status was news to me, too. I've been arguing under false pretences. It's like writing a letter to "The Prime Minister" and getting a reply from Liz Truss.
AFAIK, only Jon and Leeg as mods. God help us all.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Dave's non-mod status was news to me, too. I've been arguing under false pretences. It's like writing a letter to "The Prime Minister" and getting a reply from Liz Truss.
AFAIK, only Jon and Leeg as mods. God help us all.
Lizz is still there as well as Dave W, so the Fab Four 🎉
And Ger, so Fab Five 👍
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Torres and Mings should hopefully both be back for the next round of matches. A bit of choice then depending on opponent.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Dave's non-mod status was news to me, too. I've been arguing under false pretences. It's like writing a letter to "The Prime Minister" and getting a reply from Liz Truss.
AFAIK, only Jon and Leeg as mods. God help us all.
Lizz is still there as well as Dave W, so the Fab Four 🎉
And Ger, so Fab Five 👍
Ozzjim too though his main H&V presence is o the Transfer Thread, he's addicted to signings and sellings.
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You could just laugh and say it's a fair kop, instead of whining on about it.
Seems to be the same Trump/Farage/Clarkson thing of not liking their own words thrown back at them to disprove the new take. I believe there was a moan after a certain poster stated "I always knew Van Nistelrooy was going to be a failure at Leicester". Cue Dave quote post stating the total opposite take on his appointment.
Ex-mod Dave?
Yeah, apparently Weller's turn to soul boy with the Style Council was the last straw.
A sad misjudgement. TSC were, in essence, mod-ier than The Jam.
Come back Dave.
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Plus point with the win last night, we have just jumped Celtic in the club co-efficient. Might be in pot 3 for next years draw with another couple of rounds.
As for 5th place. England are now on 19.070 points with Italy back on 15.587. England still have all 7 in the competition as well to score points where all the nearest associations have currently lost teams. For context, Germany finished 2nd last year on 19.357 and Italy won it on 21.0.
It would take a every single English team to be knocked out in the next rounds for 5th place not to be in contention, and even then it might not be enough.
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Unless we enter the Conference League qualifying round, seeding is largely irrelevant, now. And even if we did, we'd likely be seeded based on average performance by English clubs, anyway.
As for the weightings, the system has changed so comparison with last season isn't going to be an exact science. It seems to be more Champions League-heavy now, I still don't think we can be sure fifth place would be enough just yet.
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Unless we enter the Conference League qualifying round, seeding is largely irrelevant, now. And even if we did, we'd likely be seeded based on average performance by English clubs, anyway.
I know seeding is irrelevant when you draw from each pot now, but still fun to see is progress up the pots. And we are also beating the association average anyway so no extra from that.
Edit: The massive advantage to CL points was in League placements. That is over now and the reason we shot up so high with 3 English clubs in the top 10 of the CL. That was 31.75 points. Now there is not much in it with next round bonuses of 1.5, 1.0 and 0.5 per competition and 2 per win, 1 per draw across all competitions divided by the amount of teams per association. So if a German club wins the 8 matches, and progresses to the final it equates to 2.625 points. Not all the countries / teams can do that so even a full capitulation next round by England would be put us close to 5th qualification.
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Average is based on last five years. Our two years of performances and three years of zero points won't be better than England's five year average. Still, it can't hurt, like you say.
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🚨💣 Aston Villa have generated a total of £75m from their Champions League campaign so far.
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Average is based on last five years. Our two years of performances and three years of zero points won't be better than England's five year average. Still, it can't hurt, like you say.
That isn't true.
Englands Co-efficent is 21.324
Aston Villa's co-efficient is 39.750
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Average is based on last five years. Our two years of performances and three years of zero points won't be better than England's five year average. Still, it can't hurt, like you say.
The average is used if a club has never entered, otherwise it is the total of the points earned over the last 5 years.
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Average is based on last five years. Our two years of performances and three years of zero points won't be better than England's five year average. Still, it can't hurt, like you say.
That isn't true.
Englands Co-efficent is 21.324
Aston Villa's co-efficient is 39.750
There's so many websites on this, but I'm struggling to see how 0+0+0+Conference Semi+Champions League last 16 can be better than a five year average, where is the definitive link, please?
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Average is based on last five years. Our two years of performances and three years of zero points won't be better than England's five year average. Still, it can't hurt, like you say.
That isn't true.
Englands Co-efficent is 21.324
Aston Villa's co-efficient is 39.750
There's so many websites on this, but I'm struggling to see how 0+0+0+Conference Semi+Champions League last 16 can be better than a five year average, where is the definitive link, please?
Bert Kassies is always your friend on this stuff cd.
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2025.html
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Thanks. So our five year total is 39.75. That's an average over five years of 7.95, way behind England's average, as I suspected.
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But the seeding is done on points total over the 5 years with the country average only used to bring up teams lower then that or new into Europe. Hence why that table has England at at 85 but us at 59. All the lower German teams are at joint 104th because their 5 year full total is less then their country average.
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We would be below the average, so our seeding would be based on that.
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Thanks. So our five year total is 39.75. That's an average over five years of 7.95, way behind England's average, as I suspected.
That's not how it works though. Individual Club coefficients are never expressed as averages always as totals for the purposes of seeding and pots. Or am I misunderstanding your point?
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There is NO averaging of the five years though for seeding for club points. It is a total over the 5 years OR the association average over 5 years to determine positions in the table.
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Quite possibly I'm misunderstanding my point, it's hurting my brain. So I will concede before I make matters worse. 🙂
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I'm not an aroused, beautiful woman with a warped idea of the kind of man I find attractive, but if I was...
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I lure them in with UEFA coefficient sweet talk then, when they're getting comfortable, scrape all the butter of their sandwiches to seal the deal.
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I lure them in with UEFA coefficient sweet talk then, when they're getting comfortable, scrape all the butter of their sandwiches to seal the deal.
I'm against butter on sandwiches, but scraping it off is a false economy. Once you butter, you cannot go back.
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There is no such thing as de-buttering.
What the fuck is wrong with this place recently?
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There is no such thing as de-buttering.
What the fuck is wrong with this place recently?
There is one method of de-buttering and one only, that I'm aware of.
If, like me, you want to apply butter to your toast when it's still at its hottest, you can take an estimated portion of butter per slice and put aside (on the paper or, if appropriate, the tub lid) to save time and allow it to warm up a little as your bread is toasting.
Sometimes, as it turns out, you might find that you have adequately buttered your toast with a certain amount of the pre-allotted butter remaining.
Having first wiped the knife on a piece of kitchen roll, you may then return the unused butter to the pad/tub without any risk of crumb contamination.
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I came here to educate myself on coefficients but I’m staying for the buttering debate.
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Once you butter you can’t go back. You can only add more which can be delightful if managed properly. And fuck right I’m putting a mountain of bacon on after.
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Then what? Red or brown? Don’t leave us hanging
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Once you butter you can’t go back. You can only add more which can be delightful if managed properly. And fuck right I’m putting a mountain of bacon on after.
To think I used to like Canada…….Cdbearsfan back me up, the bacon buttererati are spreading.
You can go back, you fuck the buttered bread in the. In and make that sandwich properly.
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Shameful. Never trust a country that calls itself British but would rather watch icy stick fighting than enjoy the simple pleasure of a good forward defensive stroke.
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Then what? Red or brown? Don’t leave us hanging
Maple syrup probably.
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Ok, but the question is whether it not you butter your toast when it's hot, and making the butter melt and disappear, or, wait for the toast to cool before buttering, thus having very apparent lashings of butter and it is less messy.
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Butter when hot, leave to cold then eat. Food of kings.
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Hot and melted all the way, except on crumpets
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What's the point of toasting the bread if you're just going to turn it into a soggy mess?
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Do they have real Bacon in Canada ?or is it that greasy cardboardy American shite?
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
I really hope its real madrid vs city be hilarous.
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They either have Real or Bayern with 2nd leg away. So one biggie gone either way.
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Brest v PSG
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Monaco v Benfica
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Juventus v PSV
Feyenoord v Milan
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Man City v Real
Celtic v Bayern.
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Atalanta v Bruges
Sporting v Dortmund.
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Shame AC and Juve were kept separate.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
When do we find that out pls?
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
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Brest v PSG
So they don't keep same country teams apart any more, which makes sense.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
When do we find that out pls?
21st Feb, after the play-offs.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
When do we find that out pls?
21st Feb I believe. We will know our opponents and the potential path to the final. The only sure thing we know is we won't meet Lille unless we both get finalists.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
When do we find that out pls?
21st February
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Smug watching that when already qualified!
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It must be what teams feel like in latter stages of the fa cup.
I think Id rather have the winner of Sporting vs Dortmund than Atalanta (or Bruges).
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Smug watching that when already qualified!
I was looking to see who was repping Villa, then realised we didn't need anyone there.
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
Absolutely shit. No reason why they can't keep clubs from the same country apart for at least one knockout round.
Still, pleased Man City have got Real Madrid. Bayern would have bottled it against them.
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Top half:
Brest v Paris St-Germain
Club Brugge v Atalanta
Manchester City v Real Madrid
Juventus v PSV
Bottom half:
AS Monaco v Benfica
Sporting v Borussia Dortmund
Celtic v Bayern Munich
Feyenoord v AC Milan
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When do we find out who we could be facing?
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It must be what teams feel like in latter stages of the fa cup.
I think Id rather have the winner of Sporting vs Dortmund than Atalanta (or Bruges).
I think Bruges would be the easiest but can't see them winning that, not impossible Sporting upset Dortmund, though. If the two seeds get through, I'd rather play Dortmund than Atalanta. They seem to be roughly similar ability so I might as well tick off a team ob the "European Cup winners faced" list that I carry around in my head.
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
Absolutely shit. No reason why they can't keep clubs from the same country apart for at least one knockout round.
Still, pleased Man City have got Real Madrid. Bayern would have bottled it against them.
There were three French teams in one draw system. They would have had to totally rewrite the draw rules to keep teams apart at that stage.
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When do we find out who we could be facing?
We already know who we could be facing, it'll be the winner of either the Club Brugge vs Atalanta or the Sporting (Lisbon) vs Dortmund ties.
We find out which on 21st February, when we also learn our potential quarter and semi-final opponents.
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
Absolutely shit. No reason why they can't keep clubs from the same country apart for at least one knockout round.
Still, pleased Man City have got Real Madrid. Bayern would have bottled it against them.
There were three French teams in one draw system. They would have had to totally rewrite the draw rules to keep teams apart at that stage.
Yeah, I'd be up for that. You want to reward teams for finishing higher up but it takes away some of the excitement only having two potential opponents. I'd just have it so teams 9-16 were seeded, then 1-8 seeded in last 16, then the best 4 qualifiers seeded in the last eight, and so on. Other than that, don't pair any teams together before the draw. They're also making a potential problem for themselves if ever Kosovo/Serbia or Azerbaijan/Armenia teams end up facing each other. Not very likely in the Champions League, but certainly feasible in the other two. Much easier to keep such teams apart if you aren't limiting yourselves to two potential opponents.
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So we want the bottom half of the draw, nice trip to Sporting Lisbon, then knock Barcelona out in the quarters, beat Bayern again in the semis, and then play Bruges in the final with Tyrone playing with his hands tied together, piece of piss this European Cup !!
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Top half:
Brest v Paris St-Germain
Club Brugge v Atalanta
Manchester City v Real Madrid
Juventus v PSV
Bottom half:
AS Monaco v Benfica
Sporting v Borussia Dortmund
Celtic v Bayern Munich
Feyenoord v AC Milan
can we be in the bottom half of the drawer please?
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If someone had told me at the start of the season that we'd go further in the Champions League than Man City or Real Madrid I'd have asked for some of whatever they'd been drinking.
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Knockout round draws happening at 1100. Still won't know our opponents though.
When do we find that out pls?
21st Feb I believe. We will know our opponents and the potential path to the final. The only sure thing we know is we won't meet Lille unless we both get finalists.
Not a bad thing. Lille looked good last ywar and look even better this year
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
Absolutely shit. No reason why they can't keep clubs from the same country apart for at least one knockout round.
Still, pleased Man City have got Real Madrid. Bayern would have bottled it against them.
There were three French teams in one draw system. They would have had to totally rewrite the draw rules to keep teams apart at that stage.
And then re-write them again next season if seven English clubs qualify (which is possible if teams finishing outside the PL top five win the Champions League & Europa League).
I like the new system and always felt it unfair that teams from the same country couldn’t draw each other in last 16 previously. I like the fact teams can no longer manipulate it so they avoid certain other teams too.
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You have to feel sorry for Brest. First time ever in the Champions League and they end up losing to PSG for the millionth time.
Absolutely shit. No reason why they can't keep clubs from the same country apart for at least one knockout round.
Still, pleased Man City have got Real Madrid. Bayern would have bottled it against them.
There were three French teams in one draw system. They would have had to totally rewrite the draw rules to keep teams apart at that stage.
And then re-write them again next season if seven English clubs qualify (which is possible if teams finishing outside the PL top five win the Champions League & Europa League).
I like the new system and always felt it unfair that teams from the same country couldn’t draw each other in last 16 previously. I like the fact teams can no longer manipulate it so they avoid certain other teams too.
I'm sure the fact that we've finished in the top 8 has completely affected my opinion on this, but I really like the new format. Play 7 different teams instead of 3, jeopardy in almost every single game until the league is completely finished, no dead rubbers, no top teams getting a nice easy group they can cruise through.
I suspect ourselves and Lille have made people question the format a little, as we've taken top 8 spots that I'm sure most people would have preferred to go to a City/Real/Bayern/Milan/PSG or similar. But I like that it's a format that ALLOWS teams to break into that top 8.
Personally speaking, it would be disappointing to draw an English side in the first round of knockouts, but I think having played through the league format, we're down to the last 16, so if you draw a domestic team that's the just the way it is. No need to change the format.
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I agree Smithy, but I'm sure the powers that be will be make some adjustments going forward, we can't have any old teams succeeding on merit.
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How do top 8 teams end up in top or bottom half? Does it depend on the draw on 21/2 or there are some predestined order?
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It’s better for UEFA and its TV and partner deals that they get some ‘big’ knockout ties in the play off round, in the same way that it was good for the excitement of the league phase that the likes of PSG and Man City were in danger of going out. They’ve come up with a format that is everything the Super League idea wasn’t.
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How do top 8 teams end up in top or bottom half? Does it depend on the draw on 21/2 or there are some predestined order?
No, it will depend on the draws on the 21st. Only thing we know is that we will be in a different half to Lille.
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How do top 8 teams end up in top or bottom half? Does it depend on the draw on 21/2 or there are some predestined order?
No, it will depend on the draws on the 21st. Only thing we know is that we will be in a different half to Lille.
And that we'll face the winners of either Bruges v Atalanta or Sporting v Dortmund; tricky but doable,
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Yes, sorry. I was specifically referring to the "half of the draw" question.
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
Lille in the final. I'd take that!
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
Lille in the final. I'd take that!
Beat them on penalties with Martinez taking shithousery to heights never before seen.
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
Lille in the final. I'd take that!
Beat them on penalties with Martinez taking shithousery to heights never before seen.
No thanks! I want a nice, safe win.
I'd rather we went 2 up after 5 minutes with Morgan Rogers completing his hat trick in added time. I mean, what could go wrong in between?
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
Lille in the final. I'd take that!
Beat them on penalties with Martinez taking shithousery to heights never before seen.
No thanks! I want a nice, safe win.
I'd rather we went 2 up after 5 minutes with Morgan Rogers completing his hat trick in added time. I mean, what could go wrong in between?
Mings the Merciless picking up the ball in the penalty area?
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
Lille in the final. I'd take that!
Beat them on penalties with Martinez taking shithousery to heights never before seen.
No thanks! I want a nice, safe win.
I'd rather we went 2 up after 5 minutes with Morgan Rogers completing his hat trick in added time. I mean, what could go wrong in between?
The whole of continental europe could be wiped out by an event that somehow leaves the rest of the world unscathed, leaving us to face a team of Faroese farmers in the final and there's still no way it wouldn't be an uncomfortably tight game.
It's just not what we do, one League Cup final aside.
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Do they have real Bacon in Canada ?or is it that greasy cardboardy American shite?
Nah it’s shit really. Canadian peameal bacon doesn’t stand up to a good slice of Danish. And don’t get me started on the monstrosity that is American “rashers” the Trump loving twats. As for sauce I’ve gone red or brown. I swing both ways. Doubles my options on a Friday night.
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Do they have real Bacon in Canada ?or is it that greasy cardboardy American shite?
Nah it’s shit really. Canadian peameal bacon doesn’t stand up to a good slice of Danish. And don’t get me started on the monstrosity that is American “rashers” the Trump loving twats. As for sauce I’ve gone red or brown. I swing both ways. Doubles my options on a Friday night.
Good point!
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Brest v PSG
So they don't keep same country teams apart any more, which makes sense.
I would've been impossible in that block because monaco and benfica were the other 2.
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Lots of Brucie bonuses for making the top 8
Don’t have to play 2 extra games in Feb
Make a bag fulls more cash
Second leg at home in last 16 which is massive for us I think
Puts the name of Aston Villa amongst the elite clubs of Europe again
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Do they have real Bacon in Canada ?or is it that greasy cardboardy American shite?
Nah it’s shit really. Canadian peameal bacon doesn’t stand up to a good slice of Danish. And don’t get me started on the monstrosity that is American “rashers” the Trump loving twats. As for sauce I’ve gone red or brown. I swing both ways. Doubles my options on a Friday night.
But what about their corn beef? Don’t you agree that it’s much better the shite over here?
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Lots of Brucie bonuses is for making the top 8
Don’t have to play 2 extra games in Feb
Make a bag fulls more cash
Second leg at home in last 16 which is massive for us I think
Puts the name of Aston Villa amongst the elite clubs of Europe again
Indeed John, indeed. I am delirious with joy at what we have achieved. Now we are regularly referred to as European elite team.
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Lots of Brucie bonuses is for making the top 8
Don’t have to play 2 extra games in Feb
Make a bag fulls more cash
Second leg at home in last 16 which is massive for us I think
Puts the name of Aston Villa amongst the elite clubs of Europe again
Indeed John, indeed. I am delirious with joy at what we have achieved. Now we are regularly referred to as European elite team.
Of course we’ve always known it mate
Even when we were finishing 13th of the championship
We know what we are
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Currently 11th Favourites to win the whole thing at 33/1 tied with Atalanta. No guesses for the Top 10.
Milan, Dortmund, Juventus, Benfica, Sporting, Monaco, Lille all below us.....
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Obviously it's all a big moneyspinning operation so this is moot, but it would have made more competitive sense to have the play off round and last 16 as single leg matches with the 9-16 and 1-8 teams respectively playing at home.
That would have rewarded teams for success in the league section and would have reduced the additional fixture pressure due to the new format.
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
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Obviously it's all a big moneyspinning operation so this is moot, but it would have made more competitive sense to have the play off round and last 16 as single leg matches with the 9-16 and 1-8 teams respectively playing at home.
That would have rewarded teams for success in the league section and would have reduced the additional fixture pressure due to the new format.
And everyone would have less money! Hence why.
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
That's not correct. We won't know who we face until the draw on the 21st of Feb. The only things we know is that we'll play one of Bruges, Sporting, BVB or Atalanta in the next round and we can't face Lille until the final.
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
Do you just make stuff up for hits?
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
I'm for some reason convinced if we have to play Liverpool over two legs we'd get an Emery masterclass and dump them out.
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
I'm for some reason convinced if we have to play Liverpool over two legs we'd get an Emery masterclass and dump them out.
Arne was pretty arrogant last time we played them in November. Emery always the same way etc, which isn't actually the case. It would be fooking great to knock them out!
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I know it’s probably already been mentioned but assuming we could get by Bruges or Atalanta does that mean we are on course to meet Liverpool in the QF?
It totally depends on which side of the draw we end up on. We won’t find out until 21 Feb
Along with the rest of the Top 8. As it stands the only team we know we can't face until the Final is Lille. But obviously there are at least 8 other teams who will be knocked out before the last 16.
It could be Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool with the second leg at home.
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
Do you just make stuff up for hits?
Why would I make stuff up for hits on a forum with a load of old blokes on it? What a strange thing to say. If I knew how to upload images I would put up the image I have that has the draw planned out with the 2 possible options. If that image is wrong then I am wrong. Hits? Fucking hell.
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Actually, just Google 'champions league draw' and the top image shows you that either us or Lille will face either Barcelona or Liverpool in the QF. Thought I was going mad then.
Edit: What I made up for hits. Just scroll down a little.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/uefa-champions-league-draw-results-manchester-city-get-real-madrid-in-knockouts-in-europa-league-roma-porto/live/amp/
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Cheers Danno.
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It's misleading. We don't know who we would play.
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It's misleading. We don't know who we would play.
That's fair enough, cheers. Not sure what the point in it is then.
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It's quite pretty, I suppose. 🤷♂️
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
Do you just make stuff up for hits?
Why did you think he had made it up?
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If it all goes to form and we win the next round, we'll have Liverpool or Barcelona in the QF's, so I really hope we're on the Barca side. I see enough Liverpool.
Do you just make stuff up for hits?
Why did you think he had made it up?
I wanted loads of views from the esteemed members of this forum.
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It's misleading. We don't know who we would play.
Although it proves we potentially have one of Liverpool or Barca the quarters if we get through. Of course if it doesn't go to form it is one of Brest or PSG if we get through.
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I had a chuckle on Thursday when a Man Citeh fan was saying how pleased he was to be playing Celtic and hoped Bayern knocked Real out for them.
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I didnt realise how badly dortmund were doing in the bundesliga. Might be a winnable game if ee get a few heads in befire window shuts. Atlalanta look the toughtest out of the rest.
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It's misleading. We don't know who we would play.
Although it proves we potentially have one of Liverpool or Barca the quarters if we get through. Of course if it doesn't go to form it is one of Brest or PSG if we get through.
Or one of Monaco and Benfica. Lots up in the air until the 21st.
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So, probably a daft question, but are we definitely at home for the second leg of the last 16 game?
I was looking on the UEFA site and could only see that for the playoff round. I might have missed it though.
If we know the rough dates when we’d be away, I can organise a dog sitter now!
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Hi mate, We will be away on 4/5 March and home on 11/12 March.
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Thanks olaf. Thats good to know 👍
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4th/5th March? Don't think I can handle the wait.
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4th/5th March? Don't think I can handle the wait.
I'd rather wait 5 weeks than be playing in mid-Feb.
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4th/5th March? Don't think I can handle the wait.
I'd rather wait 5 weeks than be playing in mid-Feb.
My bank manager agrees.
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4th/5th March? Don't think I can handle the wait.
I'd rather wait 5 weeks than be playing in mid-Feb.
My bank manager agrees.
Ha!
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https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0294-1c8996e7b52e-559ccdc197e6-1000--uefa-champions-league-knockout-phase-play-off-draw/
I'm still unsure why people are telling me I'm wrong to say we'll play Liverpool or Barca in the QF's should it all go to form. I didn't realise it was an official image.
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I don't like planned route in club football. Stick everyone in a velvet bag and take your chance.
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I agree with PWS on this.
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I agree with PWS and BV.
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No ta. Be like the FA Cup, with Manure (a) replaced by Real Madrid.
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Can we unsettle Lookman and Atalanta with a late bid for him? Throw in Leon as a makeweight.
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Assuming it is the three attackers who are going into two CL slots, my personal choice would be Asensio and Malen with Rashford missing out. Whoever does miss out though also needs to play more in the league.
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Assuming it is the three attackers who are going into two CL slots, my personal choice would be Asensio and Malen with Rashford missing out. Whoever does miss out though also needs to play more in the league.
I think it would be malen that misses out. You cant leave rashford out of A Cl squad.i also think he would be deeply unhapoy at being left out
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Every Football Manager player knows the pain of going to complete your Champions League squad and realising you can't register a new signing. Malen does seem the obvious one unfortunately, as none of the loanees would have signed up if they weren't guaranteed the Champions League games.
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Assuming it is the three attackers who are going into two CL slots, my personal choice would be Asensio and Malen with Rashford missing out.
That would be my choice too.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I suspect that Marcus Rashford won't be left out of the CL squad.
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Here's the update about squad sizes from UEFA. We can add 3.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0295-1cde2bf4162f-836b0ec1a18a-1000--can-january-signings-play-in-the-league-or-knockout-phase/
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So what's the situation? We can only add two players to the squad? What about players who were in the last one who left?
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Its going to be diasi asensio and rashford
Also garcia will miss out as well as malen
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So what's the situation? We can only add two players to the squad? What about players who were in the last one who left?
We can add any three of our five new players.
We can't include any of the players who've left ;)
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So what's the situation? We can only add two players to the squad? What about players who were in the last one who left?
No, we can add 3, as per the link shared above. Players leaving doesn’t change anything.
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So what's the situation? We can only add two players to the squad? What about players who were in the last one who left?
We can add three but you have to suspect Disasi will be one of them ahead of Garcia, so that leaves two for three attackers.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I suspect that Marcus Rashford won't be left out of the CL squad.
From Asensio, Rashford and Malen, if it's two we keep in order to allow a defender to be added then I agree it's likely to be Malen that misses out, unfortunately.
You'd pick Disasi over Garcia because we know that Konsa can competently cover RB as well as Disasi.
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You'd pick Disasi over Garcia because we know that Konsa can competently cover RB as well as Disasi.
And unless something odd happens with the draw, most of the hopeful future Champions League matches we might have are likely to be Bayern-style "build on a solid defence" line-ups rather than Bologna-style "front-foot attacking" line-ups.
So Konsa - Disasi - Mings/Torres - Digne rather than an attacking RB.
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I'm sure they just keep making up more and more nonsense rules to make it more difficult for us. Everyone else has years of Champions League money. We finally get some... oh you can't pick the players you've signed with it. Ffs.
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I'm sure they just keep making up more and more nonsense rules to make it more difficult for us. Everyone else has years of Champions League money. We finally get some... oh you can't pick the players you've signed with it. Ffs.
To be fair, Man City have bought five players, four of them for £30m+ plus, and they can also only register three of them. It's not like the rich clubs are benefitting more than we are from this rule.
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Yes, but Manchester City had a much stronger squad to begin with. We were already playing catch-up, and rules like this make it more difficult to do so. See also: Man City getting more money than us in this season's Group Stage even though we finished FOURTEEN places above them.
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Walker and Rodri would be removed, be interesting who else they will take out assuming they want to register one other. I'm also not sure if Walker releases a space depending on the association trained players.
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Thanks for the clarifications.
I agree they're all out to get us, the bastards.
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Walker and Rodri would be removed, be interesting who else they will take out assuming they want to register one other. I'm also not sure if Walker releases a space depending on the association trained players.
I think like us they're not filling their full complement of 8 (4). Club trained they've got Foden, McAtee and Wilson-Esbrand (?)
Association trained they can then add Carson, Grealish, Stones and previously Walker.
They've 14 on top of that, and losing Rodri, so 13, 19 when you add the six above. So I think they're fine to add the same three as we are. So probably just leave one of the two new centre-backs at home. Probably the Brazilian chap.
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Can we remove a player say Torres as he is unlikely to be available for 16 or 8 and add Disasi, Malen. Asensio and Rashford?
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Can we remove a player say Torres as he is unlikely to be available for 16 or 8 and add Disasi, Malen. Asensio and Rashford?
No. We can add three new players. We can choose whichever three we want, but it is three.
No more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.
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What about if we add four but do it in really small writing?
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No.
No.
NO!
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Can we remove a player say Torres as he is unlikely to be available for 16 or 8 and add Disasi, Malen. Asensio and Rashford?
Also Garcia might be an option to add especially if Cash's injury keeps him out for longer than anticipated. So 3 from 5
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OK, thank you for the info. Malen has played so many CL games I am sure he will be happy to concentrate on and fulfil his PL dream.
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OK, thank you for the info. Malen has played so many CL games I am sure he will be happy to concentrate on and fulfil his PL dream.
I bet he wont - i would imagine the driver for all our new signings was Champs league football
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Harsh on malen but you cant really leave the experience of rashford and asensio out
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And Malen, who was in the team that went all the way to the final last year has none?
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Malen's played 31 Champions League matches and 14 Europa League
Rashford's played 33 Champions League matches and 42 Europa League
Asensio's played 69 Champions League matches.
I'd probably just go with the two that are going to add the most, rather than "experience" being anything to do with it. As they've all got more than pretty much anyone else in our squad.
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Are there any markets still open we could send Bailey to on loan and get an extra space opened up?
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We could get a bidding war started to free up our CL squad places.
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There are no more "extra spaces" as per per the excellent post from earlier.
No. We can add three new players. We can choose whichever three we want, but it is three.
No more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.
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We can add three more players. If we melt the whole squad down for glue, we can still only add three players.
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We can add three more players. If we melt the whole squad down for glue, we can still only add three players.
What if we stuck a few of them together
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Of course, but when we sell Bailey we'll have four or five more spaces.
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We can add three more players. If we melt the whole squad down for glue, we can still only add three players.
I don't think that is true, there is an exception if more than five players leave, if so you get to add a total of four. We just can't do that because one of our outgoings is Philogene who is home grown. But hypothetically if Bailey left we'd get the headroom in the non home grown list - I think.
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We can add three more players. If we melt the whole squad down for glue, we can still only add three players.
I don't think that is true, there is an exception if more than five players leave, if so you get to add a total of four. We just can't do that because one of our outgoings is Philogene who is home grown. But hypothetically if Bailey left we'd get the headroom in the non home grown list - I think.
The exception, which a lot of us fell for, is only for teams whose season ends before Christmas. The Nordic leagues and a few others for example where they are more likely to sell and buy multiple players ready for the new season.
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This is like playing with a specific deck on Balatro. I still may even use the 'minus Bailey joker'. One for the cool kids.
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We can add three more players. If we melt the whole squad down for glue, we can still only add three players.
I don't think that is true, there is an exception if more than five players leave, if so you get to add a total of four. We just can't do that because one of our outgoings is Philogene who is home grown. But hypothetically if Bailey left we'd get the headroom in the non home grown list - I think.
The exception, which a lot of us fell for, is only for teams whose season ends before Christmas. The Nordic leagues and a few others for example where they are more likely to sell and buy multiple players ready for the new season.
Yup, I think most of us who'd glanced at the rules assumed that it all looked fine to add more than three at first.
Let's just hope that the club are a bit more switched on than we were - as it REALLY looks like we've been deliberately shovelling players out the door to reach a specific number of players who were no longer in the old squad. And it REALLY looks like we've done our transfer dealings as if we intended to add four or even five new players rather than three.
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Sky say we can four players so only one gets left out. That will be garcia. Happy fays
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13302954/man-city-spurs-and-aston-villa-have-champions-league-and-europa-league-registration-dilemma-for-january-signings
Yes, four. Shame for Garcia, but not so bad.
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Yup, I think most of us who'd glanced at the rules assumed that it all looked fine to add more than three at first.
Let's just hope that the club are a bit more switched on than we were - as it REALLY looks like we've been deliberately shovelling players out the door to reach a specific number of players who were no longer in the old squad. And it REALLY looks like we've done our transfer dealings as if we intended to add four or even five new players rather than three.
I think the first time any of us thought differently was the tweet from a few days ago which specifically picked that out. And yes, I did wonder similar on the club as we have actually two down from the squad for CL, albeit one was the 2nd/3rd choice keeper and one was Philogene who couldn't have been replaced if we had only transferred out three. Especially with mentioning Bailey leaving as well.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13302954/man-city-spurs-and-aston-villa-have-champions-league-and-europa-league-registration-dilemma-for-january-signings
Yes, four. Shame for Garcia, but not so bad.
Will have less of a impact for garcia as he is young and will play CL with us if not this season in next few seasons
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I still think he's misunderstood it. He says:
The main crux is, clubs are only allowed to register a maximum of three new eligible players after the completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase. There are some exceptions where more new players are allowed to be registered.
The first is for teams whose domestic season start and end in the same calendar year. Dinamo Zagreb, for example, as the Croatian league starts in August and ends in December.
The other is if a club sells a large amount of players before the knockout phase. UEFA only allows four new players to be registered if more than five players in the squad for the group stage have left, and five additions if more than seven have left.
The UEFA website says:
Clubs participating in domestic championships that start and end in the same calendar year are entitled to additional player registrations in the following cases:
If more than five players on the club's List A are no longer registered with their national association as playing for the club concerned after completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase, the club may register one additional player, i.e. a total of four new eligible players, for the remaining matches in the current competition.
If more than seven players on the club's List A are no longer registered with their national association as playing for the club concerned after completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase, the club may register two additional players, i.e. a total of five new eligible players, for the remaining matches in the current competition.
He says it's either summer leagues OR clubs that have sold lots of players. But the rules clearly don't say that.
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Bugger.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13302954/man-city-spurs-and-aston-villa-have-champions-league-and-europa-league-registration-dilemma-for-january-signings
Yes, four. Shame for Garcia, but not so bad.
I think they are wrong. I can't see anything BUT the same season rule. (https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulations-of-the-UEFA-Champions-League-2024/25/Article-32-Subsequent-registration-Online)
Article 32 Subsequent registration
32.01
After the completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase, a club may register a maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the current competition. Such registrations must be completed by 6 February 2025 (24:00 CET) at the latest.
32.02
Exceptionally and without prejudice to Paragraph 32.01, clubs participating in domestic championships that start and end in the same calendar year are entitled to additional player registrations in the following cases:
If more than five players on the club's List A are no longer registered with their national association as playing for the club concerned after completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase, the club may register one additional player, i.e. a total of four new eligible players, for the remaining matches in the current competition.
If more than seven players on the club's List A are no longer registered with their national association as playing for the club concerned after completion of the league phase and before the start of the knockout phase, the club may register two additional players, i.e. a total of five new eligible players, for the remaining matches in the current competition.
Such exceptional registrations must be completed by 6 February 2025 (24:00 CET) at the latest.
32.03
Any or all of the players from the above quota may have been fielded for another club in the qualifying phase, play-offs or league phase of the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League or UEFA Conference League.
32.04
If the registration of such new players causes the number of players on List A to exceed 25, the club must remove the necessary number of currently registered players to reduce the List A to 25 players again. The quota of locally trained players must be respected when registering new players.
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That would be embarrassing foe sky if this was the case
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Not really. They will just sweep it under the carpet.
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So if, as rumoured, Bailey signs for Al Qaeda, we'll have space for a small zoo?
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Not really. They will just sweep it under the carpet.
Sweep what under the carpet? ;-)
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I mean, if Monchi has added tickling Čeferin's balls to his list of duties and it means we get some sort of special dispensation that isn't listed in the rules as a result then happy days.
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I mean, if Monchi has added tickling Čeferin's balls to his list of duties and it means we get some sort of special dispensation that isn't listed in the rules as a result then happy days.
Wouldn't it be nice if there was a 'loophole' that actually favoured us for once?
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We tried that with the vitoria partnership but its appears unless your a manchester club you cant do that!
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I don't listen to it, but apparently on the podcast with Dan Bardell (?) and Tanswell they've said that the club believe they can register four players but they (Bardell and Tanswell) can't work out why the club think that, for all the same reasons we've stated on here.
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I don't listen to it, but apparently on the podcast with Dan Bardell (?) and Tanswell they've said that the club believe they can register four players but they (Bardell and Tanswell) can't work out why the club think that, for all the same reasons we've stated on here.
I saw that, I've got a horrible feeling we've made a rookie mistake on this and we're going to have an unhappy player on our hands.
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I don't listen to it, but apparently on the podcast with Dan Bardell (?) and Tanswell they've said that the club believe they can register four players but they (Bardell and Tanswell) can't work out why the club think that, for all the same reasons we've stated on here.
I saw that, I've got a horrible feeling we've made a rookie mistake on this and we're going to have an unhappy player on our hands.
Its not a rookie mistake though. We needed all four players. Whether its 3 or 4 im sure the one missing out will understand its CL rules and not yhe clubs fault
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One player on another players shoulders should fix this.
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I don't listen to it, but apparently on the podcast with Dan Bardell (?) and Tanswell they've said that the club believe they can register four players but they (Bardell and Tanswell) can't work out why the club think that, for all the same reasons we've stated on here.
I saw that, I've got a horrible feeling we've made a rookie mistake on this and we're going to have an unhappy player on our hands.
Its not a rookie mistake though. We needed all four players. Whether its 3 or 4 im sure the one missing out will understand its CL rules and not yhe clubs fault
It's more that we could conceivably have misunderstood the rule and told all of the arrivals they will be in the champions league squad, but actually some may not be.
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Would UEFA tell us if we've fucked it up? Or would it have to wait until someone complained further down the line meaning we could potentially get kicked out?
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Would UEFA tell us if we've fucked it up? Or would it have to wait until someone complained further down the line meaning we could potentially get kicked out?
They’ll not accept our additions, you’d hope
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I don't listen to it, but apparently on the podcast with Dan Bardell (?) and Tanswell they've said that the club believe they can register four players but they (Bardell and Tanswell) can't work out why the club think that, for all the same reasons we've stated on here.
OOh, could be interesting...... Back to being negligent again.
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Is this worth it's own thread on who miss out
According to Sky Sports
Villa have signed five players in January but and while they also let five players from their List A leave the club at the same time - Jhon Duran, Emiliano Buendia, Kostas Nedeljkovic, Jaden Philogene and Diego Carlos - they can still only register three players.
Had they sold one more player from List A, they could have registered four new players. As a result, they can only register three out of Rashford, Donyell Malen, Andres Garcia, Marco Asensio and Axel Disasi. Two will have to miss out.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13302954/man-city-spurs-and-aston-villa-have-champions-league-and-europa-league-registration-dilemma-for-january-signings
Sky seem to have updated their article and now saying we can only register three more, as above.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13302954/man-city-spurs-and-aston-villa-have-champions-league-and-europa-league-registration-dilemma-for-january-signings
Yes, four. Shame for Garcia, but not so bad.
They've changed the wording of the article now to say three, and if we'd moved one more on we could have had 4.
Except they haven't noted that we let Gauci go too, so it was 6.
Duran, Buendia, Philogene, Carlos, and Nedeljkovic were the 5 they reference.
Basically they haven't a clue either.
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Yup, Sky have edited their piece now saying that it's three.
Reassuring to know that we can get it right even if Sky journalists can't.
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
We can. It’s easy.
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
Why? It’s about Champions League squad.
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According the the UEFA squad list, we've let 6 players go from List A. Duran, Gauci, Buendia, Carlos, Nedeljkovic and Philogene.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/
So looking at the rules they may be able to register 4. But not sure if goalkeepers don't count. Bit confusing.
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One player on another players shoulders should fix this.
That reminded me of this.
(https://preview.redd.it/l5dcz88y1pd51.png?auto=webp&s=26b49097d9ac14f005c7b911670244c5d31070df)
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Ha
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Clever.
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
We can. It’s easy.
I'd rather not though. It will be over in a few days so this thread is good enough.
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
We can. It’s easy.
I'd rather not though. It will be over in a few days so this thread is good enough.
Assuming Garcia is left out then I have deduced the 3 from 5
I have taken hard and direct evidence gleamed from the welcome AV interviews of the new loanees on this champions league registering dilemma that they were all discussing being involved with the champions league .
So have to deduce that these three from 5 are going to be elected for registration.
Furthermore:
3 weeks ago Malen signed yet he was not being asked question about champions league instead “how much are you looking forward to playing back in England and in the premier league and that you previously said to play in the premier league would be a dream come true”
No talk of champions league in his interview
Case closed
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I have taken hard and direct evidence gleamed from the welcome AV interviews of the new loanees on this champions league registering dilemma that they were all discussing being involved with the champions league .
So have to deduce that these three from 5 are going to be elected for registration.
Furthermore:
3 weeks ago Malen signed yet he was not being asked question about champions league instead “how much are you looking forward to playing back in England and in the premier league and that you previously said to play in the premier league would be a dream come true”
No talk of champions league in his interview
Case closed
Thanks for that, Footy! It'll save me doing it later.
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As has been explained many times before. We can only add 3 players to our CL squad. The 4th and 5th options are only for those clubs that play in a January to December league. They are expected to have a greater turnover of players because it is their main transfer window.
It doesn't matter how many players we have traded through choice rather than necessity. We can only add 3 players to our CL squad.
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Unless we sell Bailey, of course.
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Unless we sell Bailey, of course.
Only if we register him as home-grown, which we can as Jamaica is Commonwealth.
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The Commonwealth always sounds much more Socialist than it really is.
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Mercer turned out to be a sort in The Commonwealth though.
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Anyway will know on Thursday night when registration window slams shut.
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Now confirmed we can only add three players, so two of Garcia, Disasi, Malen, Asensio and Rashy will have to miss out.
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Garcia and Malen my bet.
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Most likely IMO. Unless one of the other three pulls an ACL between now and the deadline. So about a 50/50 chance.
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Well I'd prefer it to be Rashford to miss out. It might stop people bastardising his name.
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Don't be like that, Drummonbass.
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Alright ArseFan
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Please stop leaning over my shoulder when I log into websites.
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When’s the deadline? I think it’s a cunning ploy by Emery to motivate Rashford and Asensio to get themselves fit.
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Today
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Garcia and Malen my bet.
Same. Garcia is young and not first choice starter. Malen can be motivated to qualify for next season as he'll definitely be here. The loan guys have a limited window to get themselves a deal for next season, here or elsewhere.
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I think it’s really harsh if we leave out one of our actual players. But obviously it’s a really difficult decision.Hopefully they knew at the time of signing, otherwise you’re going to have 2 pretty annoyed players.
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Don't be like that, Drummonbass.
Please stop leaning over my shoulder when I log into websites.
Are you two having cyber sex?
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
They are suggesting it's because we've let 6 players from our European squad leave. Jhon Duran, Emiliano Buendia, Kostas Nedeljkovic, Jaden Philogene, Diego Carlos and Joe Gauci.
I haven't read the rules, but they are suggesting teams can add 3 players normally, but can add more if they've sold/released/loaned out an unusually high number of players. So you can add 4 players to your squad if you've lost 5 or more from your European squad in the transfer window, and 5 players if you've lost 7 or more players. We lost the 6 above.
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But unless they've seen a hidden rule that is different to the ones published on UEFA's website then they're wrong and have just mis-read it like lots of us did before.
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Yeah, but what if we were to drop Bailey from the list?…
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Then it becomes numberwang.
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
Have they edited it again to show four?
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
Have they edited it again to show four?
Yep, it's back to four now. Changed yesterday morning by the look of it.
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Club always said 4. We must trust our people to know their stuff.
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Club always said 4. We must trust our people to know their stuff.
Lets see, the squad will be submitted in a couple of hours.
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Club always said 4. We must trust our people to know their stuff.
The club never said anything did they?
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One of the podcasts indicated the club thought it was four. Whether that was ITK or guess we will find out shortly.
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A new deadline to look forward to, when do we start the countdown?!
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It would be very handy for all concerned if it were 4 not 3. No high profile loan or signing to leave out just after they're in the door.
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Club always said 4. We must trust our people to know their stuff.
Hmmm.... https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/january/29/statement--outcome-of-independent-tribunal/
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Club always said 4. We must trust our people to know their stuff.
Hmmm.... https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/january/29/statement--outcome-of-independent-tribunal/
Didn't we also mess up last season with not registering Kellyman for the Conference League?
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Can't remember. Think he played against Hibs but would have been injured more or less straightaway after that anyway.
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Can't remember. Think he played against Hibs but would have been injured more or less straightaway after that anyway.
Kellyman did play against Hibs and did well from what I remember.
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Qualifiers were a different squad. Zaniolo couldn't play against Hibs because he'd played for Galatasary but he was available for the group stages.
We apparently thought Kellyman could be on the B squad but got it wrong. That's what I remember Emery saying. He was then injured before the knockout squad was named.
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Sounds vaguely familiar.
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Yep, it's one of those silly rules that Uefa have added where a player has to have been at the club for 2 years between 15-21 to be allowed on the 'b' list, which just encourages clubs to stack up 16-17 year olds in the hope that a handful will be good enough at 19-20 to fill out their squad.
On paper these ideas seem sensible but in truth, just like PSR, they encourage treating youngsters like cattle.
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When is the squad being announced?
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Maybe below, but doesn't seem to have been updated:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/squad/
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Maybe below, but doesn't seem to have been updated
It would be a fun curveball if the club decided to include none of the new signings but kept all the ones we sold in the squad.
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Well this thread would certainly get very interesting. Well, long.
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Best goals for the league stages is up for vote. Baumgarteners against us is one of them.
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Best goals for the league stages is up for vote. Baumgarteners against us is one of them.
When I see that name I just think about the dude that jumped from his hot air balloon (I know that isn't exactly correct) that was in space and did a freefall and went a bit fast.
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Best goals for the league stages is up for vote. Baumgarteners against us is one of them.
I not having that, it was a mishit he was trying to cushion back across the 6 yard box.
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They also included the one from Ludo for City where he was just trying to reach the ball anyway he could and it happened to go in.
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It’s worth a thread for itself as it’s a fascinating discussion but let’s stick to here.
Shortly the champions league squad is going to be released today as official news.
Emery confirmed the squad yesterday.
Of the 5 new signings which two are going to be missing out ?
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It’s worth a thread for itself as it’s a fascinating discussion but let’s stick to here.
Shortly the champions league squad is going to be released today as official news.
Emery confirmed the squad yesterday.
Of the 5 new signings which two are going to be missing out ?
It's right up there with taking about the dream somebody else had last night.
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It’s worth a thread for itself as it’s a fascinating discussion but let’s stick to here.
Shortly the champions league squad is going to be released today as official news.
Emery confirmed the squad yesterday.
Of the 5 new signings which two are going to be missing out ?
It's right up there with taking about the dream somebody else had last night.
What I give for more productive debate.
Which players would you leave out LeeB can you answer that at all?
Any insights or theories to who won’t be picked.
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No.
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No.
Spoilsport.
I want to hear more about your dream.
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Presumably there's an Emery press conference today and he'll be asked about the Champions League squad?
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FRom press conference,Aston Villa manager Unai Emery confirms Andres Garcia and Donyell Malen will be left out of their European squad.
Under UEFA rules, clubs playing in Europe can only register a maximum three new players into their knockout stage squad from their league phase roster.
"The decision we had to take yesterday and they are out - Andres Garcia and as well, Donyell Malen," he explained.
"It wasn't a good decision that I had to take but I spoke with Andres and I spoke with Donyell to tell them the decision."
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Malen and Garcia out
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Shame for both but I blame UEFA for their stupid rules.
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It's as we thought then and seems like the best outcome to me.
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Shame for both but I blame UEFA for their stupid rules.
Correct.
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I bet that was an interesting conversation with Malen as I would think he would have seen champions league as an incentive to join, then the goalposts moved and Rashford came in.
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Do we get to deduct the wages of the players we are unable to use, pro rata, from our FFP calculations?
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Oof, bit of a kick in cock for Malen given he said he was coming here to play in it.
I possibly would have done the same though.
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Hmmm I doubt Malen is going to be best pleased.
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I'm sure they'll have worked things out with him. It's a shame but a mix of Duran wanting out and the silly UEFA rules kinda forced our hand.
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Surprised we have sacrificed a perm for a loanee.
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Rashford lucky. Malen unlucky
Marco Asensio and Axel Disasi must includes.
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Surprised we have sacrificed a perm for a loanee.
Agreed.
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Pep obviously thinks Rodri will be back playing this season as he didn't remove him from the squad.
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Pep obviously thinks Rodri will be back playing this season as he didn't remove him from the squad.
Waste of time as they'll be eliminated this month anyway.
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Hmmm I doubt Malen is going to be best pleased.
This and have someone on ultra high wages in the changing room and issues start appearing.
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Surprised we have sacrificed a perm for a loanee.
Agreed.
Yes but I suppose we made some commitments to persuade them to come here.
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Hopefully Malen will get to play in it next year with us ;)
He needs to bust a bollock in the league and FA cup to ensure he does.
With the like of the 3 loans coming in i bet SUE actually thinks we could win the bloody thing ;D
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Not the greatest vote of confidence for a player to sign for a club and then a couple of weeks later they bring in someone on loan to play in the CL instead of you.
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It does create an issue, however it’s been handled it’s not going to be great for morale. He’s got going to have to be handled quite carefully.
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You've got to feel for Malen, but Unai gets well-paid to make difficult decisions for the best of the team. However, Malen is our player, who will be here for pre-season training. The three chosen ahead of him might not - so you've got to hope Unai has handled this as well as it's possible to.
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I hope he gets to play loads of league and cup games and forces his way into the future of the club. We don't know if Rashford or Asensio will be with us long term. I imagine Malen will start up front on Sunday. Hopefully he takes this disappointment and channels it positively for us for the rest of the season.
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Every Football Manager player knows the pain of submitting the squad list and waiting for players to demand a meeting when they are left out. I hope Unai saved his game before talking to Malen.
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Every Football Manager player knows the pain of submitting the squad list and waiting for players to demand a meeting when they are left out. I hope Unai saved his game before talking to Malen.
Not this season they don't!
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Can we have specific thread on this dilemma it's worthy of discussion more so than the attention Duran is getting.
We can. It’s easy.
I'd rather not though. It will be over in a few days so this thread is good enough.
Assuming Garcia is left out then I have deduced the 3 from 5
I have taken hard and direct evidence gleamed from the welcome AV interviews of the new loanees on this champions league registering dilemma that they were all discussing being involved with the champions league .
So have to deduce that these three from 5 are going to be elected for registration.
Furthermore:
3 weeks ago Malen signed yet he was not being asked question about champions league instead “how much are you looking forward to playing back in England and in the premier league and that you previously said to play in the premier league would be a dream come true”
No talk of champions league in his interview
Case closed
As I susepcted. Andres Garcia and Donyell Malen.
Insight.
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LOL insight my arse
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No.
Well LeeB this is what I’m able to provide .
Put the work in and will get the results
See above post to my deductions and that I shoot my shot .
Disappointing you weren’t willing to engage in your thoughts or theories or preferences to who would be selected.
Thank You no further questions!
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As I susepcted. Andres Garcia and Donyell Malen.
Insight.
Great call, Footy! I hope your Spurs score prediction is just as accurate.
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You're the man FV!!
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LOL insight my arse
That’s an invitation you may come to regret.
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LOL insight my arse
One was deduced accurately.
Two There's no need to be so crude.
Three giving credit seems harder than giving criticisms out which just want to critics my accuracy
I did the detection work and was right with my theory and dealt with the hard evidence. Malen seemed to know the deal from his interview.
Let’s get back to the topic at hand then, Malen and Garcia. Positively for them, they get to concentrate on the domestic league and cup.
Rashford has actually talked about being in it to win it, and that is excellent talk. Though Deano said similar when we were promoted about the Prem!
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LOL insight my arse
One was deduced accurately.
Two There's no need to be so crude.
Three giving credit seems harder than giving criticisms out which just want to critics my accuracy
I did the detection work and was right with my theory and dealt with the hard evidence. Malen seemed to know the deal from his interview.
Let’s get back to the topic at hand then, Malen and Garcia. Positively for them, they get to concentrate on the domestic league and cup.
Rashford has actually talked about being in it to win it, and that is excellent talk. Though Deano said similar when we were promoted about the Prem!
And yet a lot of people made the same "deducing" without all of that arsing about.
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No.
Well LeeB this is what I’m able to provide .
Put the work in and will get the results
See above post to my deductions and that I shoot my shot .
Disappointing you weren’t willing to engage in your thoughts or theories or preferences to who would be selected.
Thank You no further questions!
Shot your load you say?
Seems right.
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You're the man FV!!
Thanks.
Everyone’s equal here .
I put the work in on that one
As I susepcted. Andres Garcia and Donyell Malen.
Insight.
Great call, Footy! I hope your Spurs score prediction is just as accurate.
Thanks to you to. Appreciate that.
Well the scoreline is more hope and enthused expectation.
Have to say I haven’t done any stats or anything.
Merely taking the attitude of us in the last cup game v a similar side like Celtic , managed by Posto previously , and the goals they conceded.
Add in the impact previous matches Emery will have worked out how to not only win but also how to inflict opportunities (goals)
against them like so many teams have.
And of course have the two high level attacking loan signings and Malen it can very much equal a nice victory!
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Footy and Columbo have never been seen in the same room. It’s the only explanation.
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Footy and Columbo have never been seen in the same room. It’s the only explanation.
What about Nostradamus?
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Come to think of it....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus
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As I susepcted. Andres Garcia and Donyell Malen.
Insight.
Great call, Footy! I hope your Spurs score prediction is just as accurate.
I'm still waiting for the Ollie Watkins brace they promise every game.
Inshite.
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Footy and Columbo have never been seen in the same room. It’s the only explanation.
What about Nostradamus?
That’s the prognostication dept of Footy Inc. They have a separate investigation division.
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
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If I was Malen I would come in with the big dick energy and say I want a goal a game bonus because that's what I would have achieved 😎.
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I think main character energy is a far more family friendly term!
And Emery doesn’t allow for that sort of goings on for players he made that clear with Duran!
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You've got to feel for Malen, but Unai gets well-paid to make difficult decisions for the best of the team. However, Malen is our player, who will be here for pre-season training. The three chosen ahead of him might not - so you've got to hope Unai has handled this as well as it's possible to.
Because of this one issue Football Manager 25 has been binned by publishers.
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I hope Emi shows Malen the true path to big dick energy. The master.
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No.
Well LeeB this is what I’m able to provide .
Put the work in and will get the results
See above post to my deductions and that I shoot my shot .
Disappointing you weren’t willing to engage in your thoughts or theories or preferences to who would be selected.
Thank You no further questions!
Shot your load you say?
Seems right.
Is there any need to bring the conversation down to the gutter!
I think we all value the great insight that footy brings. #insight #knowledge
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LOL insight my arse
One was deduced accurately.
Two There's no need to be so crude.
Three giving credit seems harder than giving criticisms out which just want to critics my accuracy
I did the detection work and was right with my theory and dealt with the hard evidence. Malen seemed to know the deal from his interview.
Let’s get back to the topic at hand then, Malen and Garcia. Positively for them, they get to concentrate on the domestic league and cup.
Rashford has actually talked about being in it to win it, and that is excellent talk. Though Deano said similar when we were promoted about the Prem!
What’s your insight into the characters of all the other people who worked it out and didn’t feel the need to post about how much cleverer they are than everybody else?
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
It appears some of our more 'knowledgeable' posters are more than a bit jealous of Footy's levels of insight.
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
It appears some of our more 'knowledgeable' posters are more than a bit jealous of Footy's levels of insight.
He reminds me of that line from the Simpsons when Krusty becomes an observational stand-up: "the man who spews truth from every orifice".
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
It appears some of our more 'knowledgeable' posters are more than a bit jealous of Footy's levels of insight.
Yes, I wish I was insightful enough to believe in an imaginary fairy that lives in the sky.
They’re obviously a few genii.
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
It appears some of our more 'knowledgeable' posters are more than a bit jealous of Footy's levels of insight.
Yes, I wish I was insightful enough to believe in an imaginary fairy that lives in the sky.
They’re obviously a few genii.
Tinker Bell does exist!
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Villa to recruit loads of Spanish speakers ✔️
Martinez to miss the first games after the World Cup ✔️
Villa to draw a Scottish team in Europe ✔️
Malen and Garcia to be omitted from Champions League squad ✔️
Maybe people should start listening to FV rather than rushing to criticise.
It appears some of our more 'knowledgeable' posters are more than a bit jealous of Footy's levels of insight.
Yes, I wish I was insightful enough to believe in an imaginary fairy that lives in the sky.
They’re obviously a few genii.
Tinker Bell does exist!
👏
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I wonder if we've had to agree to pay Malen Champions-League related bonuses to appease him.
What an awkward conversation to have to tell him he's already been usurped by two big-time Charlies (not a slight, they're gonna win us a cup).
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Blind squirrel.
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Sad for malen tbh but he will get his chance.
If we didnt have the injuries at cb diasi would have been left out i think
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I think it makes sense. Malen will be disappointed, no doubt, but it could be the extra motivation to his performances for the rest of the season. It also does us good, assuming he doesn't sulk, to have fresh legs for our league games after the CL ones.
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An FA Cup winners medal will soften the blow.
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Malen should be sacking his reps for not including a guaranteed CL squad place
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A really tough call for the boss. Malen must be gutted, but I must admit, it’s the right call and shows Emery’s ruthless side.
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
Have they edited it again to show four?
Yep, it's back to four now. Changed yesterday morning by the look of it.
Long story short, it appears that Philogene counted as a "club-trained" player in our European squad, so although we technically COULD add 4 players based on those we lost, we also lost a club-trained player, so one of the four replacements would also have to be club trained to keep our full compliment.
If we'd sold, say, Cash, instead of Philogene, we'd have been able to add Malen to the squad as well.
Oh well, lesson learned.
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But there are no cash buyers around these days.
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Sky Sports website is still saying that Villa can register 4 of the 5 new players for Europe.
I'm lost
Have they edited it again to show four?
Yep, it's back to four now. Changed yesterday morning by the look of it.
Long story short, it appears that Philogene counted as a "club-trained" player in our European squad, so although we technically COULD add 4 players based on those we lost, we also lost a club-trained player, so one of the four replacements would also have to be club trained to keep our full compliment.
If we'd sold, say, Cash, instead of Philogene, we'd have been able to add Malen to the squad as well.
Oh well, lesson learned.
Sorry, still nonsense.
If we'd sold Cash and kept Philogene we could still have added three players.
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Blimey. You can add three players unless your season begins and ends in the same calendar year. That’s it.
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I'm open to correction, but I think the main take away from this is that we really need to have more club trained players in the senior squad. Selling them for profit is all well and good, but we were never in a position to name a full 25 man squad because we only had JJ and Philogene (I think?) that were old enough to go on the A list. We'd have needed 2 more at the start of the season to have a 25 man squad.
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It's not really the main take away from January. We only filled two of our four club-trained spots in September, so that turning into only one of four in February isn't that big a deal.
I think all of Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City will fill two* of their four in their post-January squads, so us having just Ramsey isn't really much of an outlier.
The only real "lesson" is that it's A Good Thing to have enough good players in the squad at the start so you don't need to do a big overhaul halfway through. If we'd not loaned Ned and Buendia out and not bought Garcia and Malen, we'd had just added Rashford, Asensio and Disasi and all this "is it three or four players?" thing would never have even entered anyone's mind.
So while it's shit for Malen, the 20 players we do have for our next 2/4/6/7 matches are probably better than the 23 we had for our first 8. So...it's fine. Not perfect, but fine.
*Alexander-Arnold, Jones, Foden, McAtee, Saka, Martinelli. But I may have missed one or two.
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Blimey. You can add three players unless your season begins and ends in the same calendar year. That’s it.
absolute stupid
whats the point in having it , how many leagues start and finish same year >? about 2
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Norway, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Finland, (Republic of) Ireland, Latvia, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus.
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Norway, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Finland, (Republic of) Ireland, Latvia, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus.
And how many of these have got teans still in the CL
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None, but the rules cover the other two competitions, too, and were drawn up before the season started.
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It isn't just a rule for CL though, it is across the three competitions.
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It's not really the main take away from January. We only filled two of our four club-trained spots in September, so that turning into only one of four in February isn't that big a deal.
I think all of Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City will fill two* of their four in their post-January squads, so us having just Ramsey isn't really much of an outlier.
The only real "lesson" is that it's A Good Thing to have enough good players in the squad at the start so you don't need to do a big overhaul halfway through. If we'd not loaned Ned and Buendia out and not bought Garcia and Malen, we'd had just added Rashford, Asensio and Disasi and all this "is it three or four players?" thing would never have even entered anyone's mind.
So while it's shit for Malen, the 20 players we do have for our next 2/4/6/7 matches are probably better than the 23 we had for our first 8. So...it's fine. Not perfect, but fine.
*Alexander-Arnold, Jones, Foden, McAtee, Saka, Martinelli. But I may have missed one or two.
Another rule that favours the established teams and works against new upstarts like us. Although by your workings even the more established sides haven't yet taken full advantage of it.
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Norway, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Finland, (Republic of) Ireland, Latvia, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus.
Yes but like Scotland these are not real countries are they?
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Scotland considered switching to playing in the summer but then remembered we don't have one. ☹️
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Norway, Sweden, Kazakhstan, Finland, (Republic of) Ireland, Latvia, Faroe Islands, Iceland, Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus.
Yes but like Scotland these are not real countries are they?
Calling Edvard to the thread!
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If I was Malen I would come in with the big dick energy and say I want a goal a game bonus because that's what I would have achieved 😎.
Sounds like the conversation that Dalian and BFR supposedly had.
'I want more money'
'Score more goals and you'll get more money'
'Pay more money and I'll score more goals'.
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I can’t believe that we earned less money from Champions League than the Manchester blue team. How can it be fair when we are against the wire with PSR and need every penny that being 14 places above them yields less dosh. It just reinforces the feeling that there isn’t a level playing field.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/feb/10/how-did-manchester-city-earn-47m-more-than-aston-villa-in-champions-league-group-stage
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Unfortunately thats the cost of not reguarly not qualifying like citeh. Those clubs will always earn more which makes little to no sense. But we know UEFA dont care about fairness
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it isn't a level playing field.
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Hoping for a sporting and brugges upsets in this round
Would love a rematch va brugges as im certain we would avenge that loss. A game va sporting would be fun as well Sadly cant see anything but a dortmund and atlanta going through though
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Hoping for a sporting and brugges upsets in this round
Would love a rematch va brugges as im certain we would avenge that loss. A game va sporting would be fun as well Sadly cant see anything but a dortmund and atlanta going through though
Dortmund in the domestic league are average at best, remains to be seen if their new manager can turn it around.
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Hoping for a sporting and brugges upsets in this round
Would love a rematch va brugges as im certain we would avenge that loss. A game va sporting would be fun as well Sadly cant see anything but a dortmund and atlanta going through though
Dortmund in the domestic league are average at best, remains to be seen if their new manager can turn it around.
Yeah i would prefer dortmund than atalanta thats for sure. If we can beat bayern then we shouldnt really fear dortmund. But they do have some decent players
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Man City playing tonight in the Champions League, these extra games are sooner than I thought
I see what some of you guys were saying about how important it was to qualify in the top 8
we would have struggled to field and play that way in the FA Cup if we had this game coming up so soon, especially having to play them with no centre backs
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Man City playing tonight in the Champions League, these extra games are sooner than I thought
I see what some of you guys were saying about how important it was to qualify in the top 8
we would have struggled to field and play that way in the FA Cup if we had this game coming up so soon, especially having to play them with no centre backs
Yes it had the potential to banjo our season.
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So Amazon Prime and not TNT have the Man City v Real Madrid game.
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Man City playing tonight in the Champions League, these extra games are sooner than I thought
I see what some of you guys were saying about how important it was to qualify in the top 8
we would have struggled to field and play that way in the FA Cup if we had this game coming up so soon, especially having to play them with no centre backs
Big difference =- although would have given our new attackers some practice
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So Amazon Prime and not TNT have the Man City v Real Madrid game.
Yes, Amazon have the rights to one game each 'round' and get first pick for the Tuesday games.
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I feel like a golfer who has hit the ball 350 yards waiting for the lesser players to catch up.
Hurry up Madrid, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, Milan, City* etc, I'm getting bored.
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Yes, I have also noticed that some of the lower tier champions league teams are out tonight and tomorrow playing for the right to meet us and other top 8 teams. I will concentrate on Sporting/Dortmund game to assess our possible opposition in March.
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Yes, I have also noticed that some of the lower tier champions league teams are out tonight and tomorrow playing for the right to meet us and other top 8 teams. I will concentrate on Sporting/Dortmund game to assess our possible opposition in March.
That's what they're showing here in Ireland rather than Citeh/Madrid.
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Amazon are showing Man City-Real Madrid in Britain and Ireland.
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shame they can't both lose
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Tie over
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Pretty harsh on Brest, PSG got a fairly soft penalty and then they've hit the post three times.
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PSG play Liverpool or Barca next match so one of the biggies will be out still.
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PSG play Liverpool or Barca next match so one of the biggies will be out still.
PSG depressingly seem to be getting their act together after their 'galactico' period.
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Hard to tell, they win the league by miles every year. They generally bottle the Champions League as soon as they come up against anyone any good.
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From what I hear on podcasts they are apparently playing better all round football than previously. I haven't seen this with my own eyes, though, I'm trusting the experts.
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Amazon are showing Man City-Real Madrid in Britain and Ireland.
But obviously not in Birmingham as Lee Anderson said it's not Britain anymore😒
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From what I hear on podcasts they are apparently playing better all round football than previously. I haven't seen this with my own eyes, though, I'm trusting the experts.
From what I've seen they are playing as a team rather than a bunch of star individuals.
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Gonna be Dortmund then.
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Are these playoffs two legs?
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Yes, but the faves have got to be PSG and Dortmund on those draws now. Tomorrow to find out our other potential opponents maybe.
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Gonna be Dortmund then.
Im ok with whoever we get now tbh. We have done better than expected. Even if we get eliminated next round we did well just to qualify in top 8.
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Gonna be Dortmund then.
Im ok with whoever we get now tbh. We have done better than expected. Even if we get eliminated next round we did well just to qualify in top 8.
By the time we play in the CL again we will have our defence back and will be firing on all cylinders. We have the capacity to blow most teams away I reckon, so no fear and no OTT underdog attitudes allowed.
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If Rashford or anyone for that matter gets injured can we then call up Malen or any other non named Player to take his place in the CL 25 squad?
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No
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Presumably we'll be at home in the second leg having qualified in the top 8. In which case, we just need to make sure we're still in the tie after the away leg and we'll have a great chance with the home advantage.
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I do think it was agreed upon that Malen couldn’t play in the champions league if he signed for Villa .
As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
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I do think it was agreed upon that Malen couldn’t play in the champions league if he signed for Villa .
As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
Absolutely categorically wrong. Wronger than a wrong'un wearing nothing but a wrong-way-round T-shirt bearing the slogan "WRONG" on the wrong side.
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As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
No it isn't possible, and no they didn't.
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No, no and thrice no!
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Possibly, though.
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Nice of PSG to let Asensio join the CL squad though.
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Probably asked before, can we play teams we have played already? Bayern, juve etc in last 16. Also do we play a winner from tonight’s Wednesday ties ?
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Probably asked before, can we play teams we have played already? Bayern, juve etc in last 16. Also do we play a winner from tonight’s Wednesday ties ?
Yes, we could play Brugge in the last 16.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League_knockout_phase
This has all the info you need.
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There is nothing stopping us from playing a team we've played before, or another English team. We will play the winner of Sporting Lisbon vs Borussia Dortmund (probably Dortmund, they're three-nil up with the home leg to come) or the winner of Club Brugge vs Atalanta in the next round.
It's an open draw from the quarter-finals onwards, should we progress, except that we can't play Lille until the final as we're paired with them by virtue of group position. We also can't play whichever victor of Sporting/Dortmund/Brugge/Atalanta we don't play in the last sixteen until the final, either.
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I do think it was agreed upon that Malen couldn’t play in the champions league if he signed for Villa .
As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
Absolutely categorically wrong. Wronger than a wrong'un wearing nothing but a wrong-way-round T-shirt bearing the slogan "WRONG" on the wrong side.
Well. I hadn’t heard it was incorrect . I mean it could be right?
Certainly a theory that can’t just be dismissed as the facts speak for themselves that Malen isn’t in the Champions League Squad.
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Probably asked before, can we play teams we have played already? Bayern, juve etc in last 16. Also do we play a winner from tonight’s Wednesday ties ?
Yes because we could play Brugge in the next round
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I do think it was agreed upon that Malen couldn’t play in the champions league if he signed for Villa .
As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
Absolutely categorically wrong. Wronger than a wrong'un wearing nothing but a wrong-way-round T-shirt bearing the slogan "WRONG" on the wrong side.
Well. I hadn’t heard it was incorrect . I mean it could be right?
Certainly a theory that can’t just be dismissed as the facts speak for themselves that Malen isn’t in the Champions League Squad.
Why did Emery have to explain to him why he was left out when he signed to play? Surely he would have known the deal. Or do you think we only rushed out to get Rashford and Asensio so we could follow Dortmunds wishes without anyone else knowing?
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I do think it was agreed upon that Malen couldn’t play in the champions league if he signed for Villa .
As Dortmund could face Villa so it’s a possibility they sold him with conditions and the proviso that he can’t be selected.
Footy you’re climbing up the wrong tree. Try this one. In order to get Rashford and Asensio we agreed to include them in our CL squad. Their Agents knew about the 3 rule and also realised that we have or were going to sign players in addition to Malen.
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Well. I hadn’t heard it was incorrect . I mean it could be right?
Nope. It couldn't. And isn't.
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And never will be.
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The legendary Insight fails again.
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That kind of fantasy garbage is the sort of stuff that attracts criticism of that particular poster. Completely made up in his own head with no shred of truth and posted as if he has some inside information. Time for another holiday away from reality I think. Maybe stay away a bit longer this time.
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Yeah, sorry Footy but pretty sure there were even quotes from Malen talking about how the lure of the CL played a part in his move.
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Gonna be Dortmund then.
Im ok with whoever we get now tbh. We have done better than expected. Even if we get eliminated next round we did well just to qualify in top 8.
By the time we play in the CL again we will have our defence back and will be firing on all cylinders. We have the capacity to blow most teams away I reckon, so no fear and no OTT underdog attitudes allowed.
Hopefully with the defence you are right. Nothing wrong with being under dogs though
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What allocation would Dormund give us?
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The rules are 5%, so just over 4,000 on that basis.
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So tonight's matches weren't as clear cut. You have to assume Bayern will do it at home, especially bringing a lead back but the others could still go either way.
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It's usually just under 4k in Europe.
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The rules are 5%, so just over 4,000 on that basis.
Think Dortmund would be the toughest out of them, Atalanta and Bruges. I'm discounting Sporting now. Second leg at home will be crucial whoever it is against.
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I think Atalanta would be worst. Combination of very difficult tie but also don't get any credit if you do win as they're not yet recognised as a big European club. I reckon they'd be streetwise and annoying as fuck if they were defending a lead, too.
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I think Atalanta would be worst. Combination of very difficult tie but also don't get any credit if you do win as they're not yet recognised as a big European club. I reckon they'd be streetwise and annoying as fuck if they were defending a lead, too.
Agree here with CD, Dortmund are a good team but I think Atalanta would be a tougher test. We’d beat both Sporting and Bruges.
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I think Atalanta would be worst. Combination of very difficult tie but also don't get any credit if you do win as they're not yet recognised as a big European club. I reckon they'd be streetwise and annoying as fuck if they were defending a lead, too.
Agree here with CD, Dortmund are a good team but I think Atalanta would be a tougher test. We’d beat both Sporting and Bruges.
Same here. Brugge, Dortmund then Atalanta, in order pf preference.
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Atalanta were very free scoring in some of their matches. They also gave Madrid and Barcelona games as well.
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Two legs makes a difference whatever team we play.
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Villa Park will be buzzing for the second leg.
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I think atalanta are more than capable of easily over coming a goal deficit. I think they will batter brugges 2nd leg
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Atalanta were very free scoring in some of their matches. They also gave Madrid and Barcelona games as well.
But did drop points at home to Celtic too.
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Preference for me is this order: Bruges, Dortmund, Atalanta.
Atalanta are too good. Dortmund are shite this season. I'd back us to beat Bruges over two legs any day of the week.
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Bruges first
Either of others difficult.
Dortmund been there, done it, bought the t-shirts but not great this season. Atalanta - perfectly capable but with less experience. Bit a like us in some respects.
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As long as we have a couple of our walking-wounded back, I'd fancy us against any of them.
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Atalanta have reached the knockout stages of European competition 6 out of the last 8 seasons and won the Europa League last season. Sounds like plenty of experience to me.
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Atalanta have reached the knockout stages of European competition 6 out of the last 8 seasons and won the Europa League last season. Sounds like plenty of experience to me.
less experience than Dortmund isn't the same as inexperienced though.
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Atalanta have reached the knockout stages of European competition 6 out of the last 8 seasons and won the Europa League last season. Sounds like plenty of experience to me.
less experience than Dortmund isn't the same as inexperienced though.
But in terms of our players having two matches against the players from either Dortmund or Atalanta, I'm not sure it makes that much difference. They've both got loads of players who have played dozens of matches at the business end of European competition, and some who haven't. Some who've done well and some who've done badly.
So I'm not sure Dortmund as a club having played more in Europe in a time before any of these players were playing for them is much of a dividing factor.
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I had misread the original post to be fair
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Atalanta have reached the knockout stages of European competition 6 out of the last 8 seasons and won the Europa League last season. Sounds like plenty of experience to me.
less experience than Dortmund isn't the same as inexperienced though.
But in terms of our players having two matches against the players from either Dortmund or Atalanta, I'm not sure it makes that much difference. They've both got loads of players who have played dozens of matches at the business end of European competition, and some who haven't. Some who've done well and some who've done badly.
So I'm not sure Dortmund as a club having played more in Europe in a time before any of these players were playing for them is much of a dividing factor.
I agree, and don't really care, I was just pointing out that the comment wasn't that Atalanta are inexperienced (which would be wrong) but that they have less experience than Dortmund.
If they both get through then either tie will be tough, which is to be expected in the last 16 of the champions league.
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Dortmund were impressive v Sporting. Strong, direct, and clinical in their finishing, they would be very much my team to avoid.
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Townley just posted this, it’s a crazy schedule!
#AVFC only have nine rest days within the period of their next five matches before then playing two UCL R16 legs either side of facing Brentford away.
The schedule is ridiculous...
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Given that the alternative is being knocked out of the Champions League and/or FA Cup, I'm quite happy having fixture congestion. We have lots of players, too. Expecially when some defenders return from injury.
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It's mad that finishing top 8 was supposed to give us a break. If it was still the old format and we'd qualified out of our group, would we have such a busy schedule? We wouldn't have had January CL games, right?
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It's mad that finishing top 8 was supposed to give us a break. If it was still the old format and we'd qualified out of our group, would we have such a busy schedule? We wouldn't have had January CL games, right?
It has given us a break, we’d have played qualifiers in mid-week and then again next week otherwise.
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Yes, it gives us a break compared to what we would have had if we finished 9th-24th, and won a qualifying game, but not compared to if we had qualified last season.
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the rescheduled game against Liverpool and the shift of the FA cup game to Friday evening are the problem.
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I'd say the shift of the FA Cup game lessens the problem, slightly. Disasi will get the FA Cup off and Malen and Garcia won't play in the Champions League so there's a bit of natural rotation, anyway. We don't really have any outfield player who absolutely has to play every game, and Emery generally uses at least four subs.
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I'd say the shift of the FA Cup game lessens the problem, slightly. Disasi will get the FA Cup off and Malen and Garcia won't play in the Champions League so there's a bit of natural rotation, anyway. We don't really have any outfield player who absolutely has to play every game, and Emery generally uses at least four subs.
Yup. As you say above, it's great having fixture congestion. Shit teams that get knocked out things never have to worry about it. The more the merrier.
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Yeah, and only three free alternative midweeks remaining. If we get to the FA Cup Final that's two gone, so we'd have no wriggle room at all if Liverpool moved into one of them. Even more so as we play Tottenham FA Cup Final week, and it's the Europa League Final in the "free" midweek after that. So, potentially problematic if we both make finals.
I'd rather play Liverpool next week than risk having to play something ridiculous like Saturday-Tuesday-Thursday-Sunday later on. (Potentially even worse if the king dies during the season like his selfish football-hating mother).
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True but I think I'd have preferred to have a run like this when we don't have so many defenders injured.
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This is Villa. By the time a couple of defenders are back, the entire midfield will be injured.
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Yes, it gives us a break compared to what we would have had if we finished 9th-24th, and won a qualifying game, but not compared to if we had qualified last season.
Only one match though as Liverpool is now when the second leg of a play-off match would be. The problem is two-fold - the premier league should be 18 teams max so 4 less fixtures a season (but that will never happen) - and the international break in March means we have 3 weeks without a game after this ridiculous cramming of fixtures this month.
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Yes, it gives us a break compared to what we would have had if we finished 9th-24th, and won a qualifying game, but not compared to if we had qualified last season.
Only one match though as Liverpool is now when the second leg of a play-off match would be. The problem is two-fold - the premier league should be 18 teams max so 4 less fixtures a season (but that will never happen) - and the international break in March means we have 3 weeks without a game after this ridiculous cramming of fixtures this month.
Hopefully though that will be a good opportunity for lots of the squad to get a rest before another hectic two months to finish the season.
Run the likes of Rashford et al into the ground over the next few weeks and then they get a nice couple of weeks to get recuperate, either having a break from matches or mostly pottering around the fringes of their international squads. Then go again.
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The Premier League should absolutely not be eighteen teams max. We were at the bottom not so long ago, let's not turn into one of those twatty arrogant clubs that thinks the whole league should be based around their needs.
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The Premier League should absolutely not be eighteen teams max. We were at the bottom not so long ago, let's not turn into one of those twatty arrogant clubs that thinks the whole league should be based around their needs.
In our case it should.
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I know what you mean, but we wouldn't benefit. Last time they reduced the size of the leagues, not one club reduced their season ticket prices. Can you see Chris Heck saying "only seventeen games this season, we've knocked a hundred quid off"? He'd be more likely to say "a higher percentage of our home games are now category A, we've put the prices up by two hundred each... bargain".
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I know what you mean, but we wouldn't benefit. Last time they reduced the size of the leagues, not one club reduced their season ticket prices. Can you see Chris Heck saying "only seventeen games this season, we've knocked a hundred quid off"? He'd be more likely to say "a higher percentage of our home games are now category A, we've put the prices up by two hundred each... bargain".
You're a bit of a cynic on the quiet, aren't you?
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Don't tell anyone.
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I do agree, though.
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The Premier League should absolutely not be eighteen teams max. We were at the bottom not so long ago, let's not turn into one of those twatty arrogant clubs that thinks the whole league should be based around their needs.
It absolutely should be. With a PL2 of 18 teams also and a much better share of the wealth. Less is more in terms of quality. And the TV money would still flow.
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The Premier League should absolutely not be eighteen teams max. We were at the bottom not so long ago, let's not turn into one of those twatty arrogant clubs that thinks the whole league should be based around their needs.
It absolutely should be. With a PL2 of 18 teams also and a much better share of the wealth. Less is more in terms of quality. And the TV money would still flow.
I saw something a few years back suggesting the same and then changing the football league to 3 20 team leagues as well (obviously bringing a few extra teams up from the conference to make it up to 96). Seemed like a decent idea to me because they do need to do something about the number of games being played, it's far too high really, when you add in the international fixtures as well.
Take Tielemans for example, he's played 43 games (and the best part of 3500 minutes) already this season and there could easily be another 20+ to add before he gets a break. I've posted before but 4000 minutes seems to be the point where players start to hit a wall and he'll be there before April as things stand.
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The number of games is not too high. They're fitter and better trained and have better diets than ever before. They also get rotated in cup games more than ever before and there are more subs than ever before, too. They also play fewer domestic cup games than ever before because replays have been abolished (as has extra time in the League Cup before the semis).
We should not forcibly relegate a load of teams because Champions League teams consider league games an inconvenience. In any case, if the top European leagues all reduced in number, UEFA would immediately increase the number of European games to plug the gap.
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Not many seemed to think we were playing too many games and the league should be smaller when we were shit and at the arse end of the table each year. But now we aren't shit let's shaft a couple of other clubs in case it benefits us. Gotta love modern football.
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Imv it should have been reduced to 18 years ago but any move now specifically looks like dubious behaviour from those clubs getting into Europe each year.
That said I like the idea of PL1 and 2 and then 3 divisions of 20-24 clubs. The big issue for me is reducing the jump from Championship to PL which is becoming a chasm and is doing nothing for league competitiveness.
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Just get rid of International games, they're crap.
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How many points are needed for CL qualification in 5th place? Last year spurs got 66 points in 5th.
We have 14 games left so 2 points per game would give us 65 which could be enough this year.
Forest are currently at 2 points a game but I expect that to drop by seasons end we are 1.5 points per game at the moment but with players coming back and new arrivals we should better that from now on.
65/66 points could well be enough
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Just get rid of International games, they're crap.
international football is turd lately
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The Premier League should absolutely not be eighteen teams max. We were at the bottom not so long ago, let's not turn into one of those twatty arrogant clubs that thinks the whole league should be based around their needs.
In our case it should.
Good point. You’ve convinced me.
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The number of games is not too high. They're fitter and better trained and have better diets than ever before. They also get rotated in cup games more than ever before and there are more subs than ever before, too. They also play fewer domestic cup games than ever before because replays have been abolished (as has extra time in the League Cup before the semis).
We should not forcibly relegate a load of teams because Champions League teams consider league games an inconvenience. In any case, if the top European leagues all reduced in number, UEFA would immediately increase the number of European games to plug the gap.
You forgot to mention how much better are the pitches these days.
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Just get rid of International games, they're crap.
Fully agree, international football is shite.
If I was a top player now, I'd retire from international football as soon as I was picked, meaning I'd get several breaks during the season and my summer back to recuperate for the next season, which would no doubt help to prolong my career. Plus,
I think if they keep pushing extra games into tournaments and calendars you'll start to see more players take that approach.
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I think it's telling that virtually no one does that. The impression I get is that most players like playing for their countries, particularly in tournaments. Granted, players from lesser nations like Scotland won't get the chance very often but those three games mean the world when they do roll around.
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I think it's telling that virtually no one does that. The impression I get is that most players like playing for their countries, particularly in tournaments. Granted, players from lesser nations like Scotland won't get the chance very often but those three games mean the world when they do roll around.
It will come, the cricket is already well down the path.
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Feigning injury before an International break is the way forward if you want your club to be successful.
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The number of games is not too high. They're fitter and better trained and have better diets than ever before. They also get rotated in cup games more than ever before and there are more subs than ever before, too. They also play fewer domestic cup games than ever before because replays have been abolished (as has extra time in the League Cup before the semis).
We should not forcibly relegate a load of teams because Champions League teams consider league games an inconvenience. In any case, if the top European leagues all reduced in number, UEFA would immediately increase the number of European games to plug the gap.
You forgot to mention how much better are the pitches these days.
Yep. As someone once said "I got 99 problems but the pitch ain't one". Think it was Cliff Richard.
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I'm not so sure with regards to the pitches now, they look great but they're rock hard compared to a normal pitch, I wonder how much impact they have on players long term.
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Not sure where this sits, but the championship feels bloated with all the midweek matches. The quality of that league would surely improve with fewer teams.
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Yep, no promotion from League One for a few years should sort it.
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Looking at the table, we need to stop promotion from the Championship, too.
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Yep, no promotion from League One for a few years should sort it.
Lol
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Not sure where this sits, but the championship feels bloated with all the midweek matches. The quality of that league would surely improve with fewer teams.
This belongs in Other football or Other games. Can't believe you have soiled this thread with absolute awful second division issues.
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An added factor for me in wishing to avoid Atalanta is the potential for snide behavior of Italian supporters over there
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Brugge and Dortmund both lost 2-0 and Atalanta drew 0-0.
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Does anybody know if they’ll announce what day we play the away leg on Friday?
Not much time between the draw and first leg to make travel arrangements.
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Brugge and Dortmund both lost 2-0 and Atalanta drew 0-0.
Not just us that struggle after CL games then.
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Does anybody know if they’ll announce what day we play the away leg on Friday?
Not much time between the draw and first leg to make travel arrangements.
Won't be in the draw. Might be Friday evening or Saturday before the announcements due to checking with local security etc and seeing what everyone wants. I will be surprised if we are not away on Tuesday but that will depend on the opponents choices.
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Does anybody know if they’ll announce what day we play the away leg on Friday?
Not much time between the draw and first leg to make travel arrangements.
Won't be in the draw. Might be Friday evening or Saturday before the announcements due to checking with local security etc and seeing what everyone wants. I will be surprised if we are not away on Tuesday but that will depend on the opponents choices.
Hopefully it won’t take too long to sort.
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Champions League draw for the round of 16 will be made at 11am on Friday.
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Won't be in the draw. Might be Friday evening or Saturday before the announcements due to checking with local security etc and seeing what everyone wants. I will be surprised if we are not away on Tuesday but that will depend on the opponents choices.
None of that nonsense (not what you wrote but arrangements etc) will delay anything. Home Clubs already know and it’s either tue/wed. There is no preference given to tv as there will be 4 live games both nights and local leagues will have to make adjustments to suit CL games.
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Champions League draw for the round of 16 will be made at 11am on Friday.
Should also contain the draws for home and away legs through to the final as well.
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Champions League draw for the round of 16 will be made at 11am on Friday.
Thanks olaftab. Didnt know that. Its good that second leg is at villa park
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Fyenoord through, Milan gone.
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Liked that Feyenoord kit in green and white, which also represents the colours of Rotterdam.
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Brugge now 3-1 up !
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Brugge now 3-1 up !
make that 4-1 in aggregate.
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Brugge 4-1 on aggregate
That is a shock.
Maybe redemption for Mings
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so can we play Brugge or is it Dortmund?
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so can we play Brugge or is it Dortmund?
Either, the draw on Friday will decide who.
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If Italy lose Atalanta as well as Milan today I think it pretty much guarantees fifth place = Champions League.
Not that we're really doing much to keep our interest there.
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Unfu kingbelieveable Jeff 3-0 Brugge
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Should we be worried about drawing Bruges now then!?
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Tell you what, we're getting to the final.
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Should we be worried about drawing Bruges now then!?
Yes! They’re killing them on the break in the way we tend to be very susceptible to
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Will we be away for the first leg because we qualified top 8?
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Should we be worried about drawing Bruges now then!?
Yes! They’re killing them on the break in the way we tend to be very susceptible to
I want them. Revenge will be sweet.
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Should we be worried about drawing Bruges now then!?
No. We will beat them at a Cantor
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Will we be away for the first leg because we qualified top 8?
Yes. But all QF and SF orders will be determined at the draw on Friday along with our first opponents.
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Bayern are making really hard work of getting past a very poor Celtic side
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Should we be worried about drawing Bruges now then!?
100% yes
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Will we be away for the first leg because we qualified top 8?
Yes. But all QF and SF orders will be determined at the draw on Friday along with our first opponents.
Dont know why they have done it like this. Maybe ok for this round but then final 8 should be anyone can draw anyone not have all the orders in place from now. Prefer how it was in the old days
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Liked that Feyenoord kit in green and white, which also represents the colours of Rotterdam.
I sneaked into De Kuip a few years ago and inside their main entrance there were some photos showing them in green and white IIRC. May have been when they were Feijenoord
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I suspect it might be because the knockout games are more condensed over the next few months so rather then have to do several draws, easier to have fixed brackets.
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so can we play Brugge or is it Dortmund?
Either, the draw on Friday will decide who.
Cheers. Brugge looks bloody decent and not the weak link we might be thinking.
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Fuck me celtic score. Decent goal via brilliant pressing
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Yet another reason why this play-off round was best avoided.
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The new format seems better
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Fuck me celtic score. Decent goal via brilliant pressing
It was a nice, calm, finish but it was diabolical defending.
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Liked that Feyenoord kit in green and white, which also represents the colours of Rotterdam.
I sneaked into De Kuip a few years ago and inside their main entrance there were some photos showing them in green and white IIRC. May have been when they were Feijenoord
They've worn red and white since 1912, but have often had green and white as their away kit.
Their original kit in 1908 was quite nice as well. https://www.footballkitarchive.com/feyenoord-1908-09-home-kit/
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So Bruges or Dortmund (unless something weird happens).
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I really hope its brugges we need that rematch for obvious reasons
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Booked the same hotel for Bruges in readiness although would prefer Dortmund. Where did everyone stay when we had the friendly pre-season?
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Sky Sports saying we have Lille or Brugge
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We'll smash either of them.
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Sky Sports saying we have Lille or Brugge
Sky Sports also thought we could make four changes to our European squad so.......
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We literally can't face Lille until the final.
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Sky Sports saying we have Lille or Brugge
Sky Sports are idiots.
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Every team who was leading 1st leg qualified tonight. Hope that streak continues tomorrow.
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Sky Sports saying we have Lille or Brugge
Sky Sports are idiots.
Yep they've looked at the chart and saw Lille OR Villa and matched us up with them instead of Villa or Lille to play Dortmund or Brugge. We're not one of the Sky 6 so we don't warrant anything more than a cursory glance. They'll be devoting hours to Yanited and Spuds when they play on Thursday in the Europa.
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Christ so when will we know?
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Its obviously gonna be dortmund
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Is it? I really don’t know.
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So Bruges or Dortmund (unless something weird happens).
I am torn between Brugge and Dortmu d. If we get Brugge it's almost a by but I would love to see the Villa take to the pitch at the Westfalenstadion.
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Draw's on Friday
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Liked that Feyenoord kit in green and white, which also represents the colours of Rotterdam.
I sneaked into De Kuip a few years ago and inside their main entrance there were some photos showing them in green and white IIRC. May have been when they were Feijenoord
They've worn red and white since 1912, but have often had green and white as their away kit.
Their original kit in 1908 was quite nice as well. https://www.footballkitarchive.com/feyenoord-1908-09-home-kit/
Wow that’s mad. Well done on finding that.
I didn’t realise the green and white was the city colours and assumed it had been their home kit at some point.
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So Bruges or Dortmund (unless something weird happens).
I am torn between Brugge and Dortmu d. If we get Brugge it's almost a by but I would love to see the Villa take to the pitch at the Westfalenstadion.
The way Brugge played against us and then against Atalanta tonight makes me think that will be a really tough match.
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Yeah, slightly torn on it. On the one hand, I want the easiest team possible. On the other, if we go out, it would be more palatable going out to a really good (non-English) team. We might not qualify again for a long time, if we got knocked out by a team from a Diddy League I'd always have that sense of having fucked it up again.
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Yeah, slightly torn on it. On the one hand, I want the easiest team possible. On the other, if we go out, it would be more palatable going out to a really good (non-English) team. We might not qualify again for a long time, if we got knocked out by a team from a Diddy League I'd always have that sense of having fucked it up again.
Real Bradfordo.
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Watched the 2nd half of the Celtic game, for me they were so unlucky - played very well and Callum McGregor was very good in midfield (as he was down Villa Park)
I was surprised to learn that Bayern have the largest annual wage bill of any team in European football (more than Madrid, Man City etc...).
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Yeah maybe wait until friday as we might have brugges ? 😉
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So Bruges or Dortmund (unless something weird happens).
I am torn between Brugge and Dortmu d. If we get Brugge it's almost a by but I would love to see the Villa take to the pitch at the Westfalenstadion.
The way Brugge played against us and then against Atalanta tonight makes me think that will be a really tough match.
Almost a bye?! Blimey I wouldn’t be that complacent. Brugge are a good side.
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Brugge a bye? Hardly.
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Dortmund is like Narnia, hard to get to in public.
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Honestly they are not very good and last night Atlanta should have mullered them. Everything went for them and it won’t happen again. We rested on the pitch at their place. Even a slight raise in effort would have seen us win that game. Let’s not fear gremlin shadows as usual.
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Brugge isn’t a bye but it is a blooming great opportunity compared to some of the other teams we could be facing. It’s like Cardiff at home. Not guaranteed at all but you’d take it beforehand.
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Honestly they are not very good and last night Atlanta should have mullered them. Everything went for them and it won’t happen again. We rested on the pitch at their place. Even a slight raise in effort would have seen us win that game. Let’s not fear gremlin shadows as usual.
Everything went for them against us too thanks to Tyrone. Maybe they're just the luckiest guys alive.
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Dusseldorf, then train over to Dortmund.
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Dusseldorf, then train over to Dortmund.
Allow plenty of time for the train.
They are worse than the UK.
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Book a flight (or Eurostar) to Brussels. There's cheap(ish) direct trains to both Brugge and Dortmund from Bruxelles-Midi station.
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Two of tonight's ties look done, but I presume we'd prefer PSV and Citeh to go through if possible.
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Stanstead - Cologne and train to Dortmund.
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Watched the 2nd half of the Celtic game, for me they were so unlucky - played very well and Callum McGregor was very good in midfield (as he was down Villa Park)
I was surprised to learn that Bayern have the largest annual wage bill of any team in European football (more than Madrid, Man City etc...).
Bayern were really average , Kompany must be on thin Ice there .
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I can't seem to find any quick in and out flights to Dortmund. Anyone with any advice?
Book a flight (or Eurostar) to Brussels. There's cheap(ish) direct trains to both Brugge and Dortmund from Bruxelles-Midi station.
Brugge yes but Dortmund no, however it is possible to train it from Brussels to Dortmund.
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Watched the 2nd half of the Celtic game, for me they were so unlucky - played very well and Callum McGregor was very good in midfield (as he was down Villa Park)
I was surprised to learn that Bayern have the largest annual wage bill of any team in European football (more than Madrid, Man City etc...).
Bayern were really average , Kompany must be on thin Ice there .
They're eight points clear in the league they finished third in last season and in the last sixteen of the Champions League.
Right now, he's fine.
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As things currently stand. Bracket A is
PSG v Liverpool or Barca
Bruges v Aston Villa or Lille.
Real Madrid v Atletico or Leverkusen
PSV v Arse or Inter
Bracket B
Feyenoord v Inter or Arse
Bayern v Leverkusen or Athletico
Dortmund v Lille or Villa
Benfica v Barca or Liverpool.
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Watched the 2nd half of the Celtic game, for me they were so unlucky - played very well and Callum McGregor was very good in midfield (as he was down Villa Park)
I was surprised to learn that Bayern have the largest annual wage bill of any team in European football (more than Madrid, Man City etc...).
Bayern were really average , Kompany must be on thin Ice there .
They're eight points clear in the league they finished third in last season and in the last sixteen of the Champions League.
Right now, he's fine.
They have been hit/miss in the CL and essentially have failed down to poor finishing and poor defending in certain matches, with the other teams scoring from every shot on target and Kane and Co creating 20 chances and not finishing one.
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As things currently stand. Bracket A is
PSG v Liverpool or Barca
Bruges v Aston Villa or Lille.
Real Madrid v Atletico or Leverkusen
PSV/Juve v Arse or Inter
Bracket B
Feyenoord v Inter or Arse
Bayern v Leverkusen or Athletico
Dortmund v Lille or Villa
Benfica v Barca or Liverpool.
We don't know the brackets yet, they're getting drawn on Friday.
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Watched the 2nd half of the Celtic game, for me they were so unlucky - played very well and Callum McGregor was very good in midfield (as he was down Villa Park)
I was surprised to learn that Bayern have the largest annual wage bill of any team in European football (more than Madrid, Man City etc...).
Bayern were really average , Kompany must be on thin Ice there .
They're eight points clear in the league they finished third in last season and in the last sixteen of the Champions League.
Right now, he's fine.
They have been hit/miss in the CL and essentially have failed down to poor finishing and poor defending in certain matches, with the other teams scoring from every shot on target and Kane and Co creating 20 chances and not finishing one.
He's still comfortably doing enough to not be sacked.
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We don't know the brackets yet, they're getting drawn on Friday.
We know the brackets from the knock-out teams side, we just don't know which of the top 8 goes in which side yet. Hence me writing the OR between those teams.
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I stand corrected. Hadn't realised they'd done that
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He's still comfortably doing enough to not be sacked.
I think the same as well, just pointing out it is more the on-field personnel not doing their jobs then actual managerial tactics. If Kane and the other couldn't score against Feynoord when they had 30 shots with 12 on target, (and lose 3-0 with the Dutch only getting 20% possession and three shots on target), then I'm not sure what else Kompany can do.
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Into the last sixteen, doesn't seem that long ago we were stinking out the Premier League. Whatever happens in the next round we have already had some unforgettable results this season in Europe.
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Dougie no longer has any champions league duties.
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It hasn't been a good week for the Italian teams.
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Looking at the brackets, Brugge might be an easier last 16 tie but Dortmund and bracket B looks it might provide an easier path to the final. Obviously it depends on the draw, but PSG and Madrid are already confirmed in bracket A.
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We're up against it in the last eight either way. I'd rather swerve Madrid and any of the English teams. Please don't draw a sodding English team, provided we reach the last eight of course touch wood etc.
I'd love Barca. What a tie and I think we could do them with a fair wind.
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I think it could be a much of a muchness now anyway. Whichever bracket we are in, we will have one of the league top two (or an apparently inform PSG) to play as I don't think Benfica will win through. And even for our match, I think both Bruges and Dortmund will offer a tough challenge although I fancy us against either at Villa Park, it will be how well we do away which will decide the tie.
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If you're in the last eight of the Champions League, you're up against it no matter who you play.
It's a difficult competition to play in, that's kind of the point.
I absolutely would take Brugges or Dortmund in the next round, though, we'll do either of those.
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Milan, Juventus & Man City all out by this stage is a surprise.
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Dortmund is the bigger tie, but a last 16 tie in the Champions League against Bruge is as good as we could wish for really.
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To even be at this stage is a great achievement based on our recent history. But we all want more, and our manager wants it even more than us I reckon.
We can beat anyone on our day but there's no disgrace for any side getting this far and losing.
To have managed to avoid this play off round is something else given our injuries, and it stands us in good stead for the rest of the season.
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, Barcelona, or PSG. First leg at home.
Once the draw is made at 11am this Friday, we can see all our options through to the final. For example, would it be possible to face Bayern over two legs in the semi (first leg away) or could we face them in the final on their patch !
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, or Barcelona.
PSG too?
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, or Barcelona.
PSG too?
You're right, I've just woken up !
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, Barcelona, or PSG. First leg at home.
Once the draw is made at 11am this Friday, we can see all our options through to the final. For example, would it be possible to face Bayern over two legs in the semi (first leg away) or could we face them in the final on their patch !
The first part is correct. We don't know any potential opponents beyond the last sixteen yet, though.
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, Barcelona, or PSG. First leg at home.
Once the draw is made at 11am this Friday, we can see all our options through to the final. For example, would it be possible to face Bayern over two legs in the semi (first leg away) or could we face them in the final on their patch !
The first part is correct. We don't know any potential opponents beyond the last sixteen yet, though.
i am reading that as we can not play any of the teams in the bottom half of the chart until the semis.
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PSG or Barcelona would beat Liverpool over two legs in my opinion
i rather us play Liverpool and before that it’s Dortmund or Brugge as confirmed after the games this week.
The draw is tomorrow
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, Barcelona, or PSG. First leg at home.
Once the draw is made at 11am this Friday, we can see all our options through to the final. For example, would it be possible to face Bayern over two legs in the semi (first leg away) or could we face them in the final on their patch !
The first part is correct. We don't know any potential opponents beyond the last sixteen yet, though.
i am reading that as we can not play any of the teams in the bottom half of the chart until the semis.
no it’s better to see the chart tomorrow after the draw because Villa could be on either half of the draw like every team left and the will have the true path and fixtures at the moment it’s either/or so it’s somewhat speculative and a this or that scenario.
I hope that helps.
it’s all very exciting though isn’t it CLion?
Everyone looking forward to tomorrow!
Let’s keep the dream going.
UTV!
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We play Brugge or Dortmund in R16, first leg away. If we get through to the QF we then play Liverpool, Benfica, Barcelona, or PSG. First leg at home.
Once the draw is made at 11am this Friday, we can see all our options through to the final. For example, would it be possible to face Bayern over two legs in the semi (first leg away) or could we face them in the final on their patch !
The first part is correct. We don't know any potential opponents beyond the last sixteen yet, though.
i am reading that as we can not play any of the teams in the bottom half of the chart until the semis.
no it’s better to see the chart tomorrow after the draw because Villa could be on either half of the draw like every team left and the will have the true path and fixtures at the moment it’s either/or so it’s somewhat speculative and a this or that scenario.
it’s all very exciting though isn’t it CL!?
Everyone looking forward to tomorrow!
UTV!
We are not in the bottom half of the chart, the quarter finals are pre determined according to the chart, if that is not the case the chart is wrong.
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PSG or Barcelona would beat Liverpool over two legs in my opinion
i rather us play Liverpool and before that it’s Dortmund or Brugge as confirmed after the games this week.
The draw is tomorrow
I would rather play arsenal over two legs than liverpool tbh.
Liverpool are tough side despite yesterday. Anfield is a tough place to go. Would rather avoid them altogether.
Would like brugges just to avenge that loss. After that i dont care who we draw as all sides left are going to be the best in europe
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We know it’s
Round of 16: away 4/5 & home 11/12 March
The draw will tell us who,
Do we know when we know date and KO time? Usual vague unkown wait?
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The chart is correct as we are currently on both sides. Friday it will be sorted and then we will know our foe's for last 16 and possible opponents for QF and SF.
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Booking a flight from Birmingham to Brussels is a smart idea as it covers onward travel to both opponents, however I am not doing that.
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CL is correct in stating we can't play anyone in the bottom half of each bracket until the SF. It is just a weird thing to pick up when it is separated into brackets anyway on either side.
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We know it’s
Round of 16: away 4/5 & home 11/12 March
The draw will tell us who,
Do we know when we know date and KO time? Usual vague unkown wait?
Vague wait until later in the day. I suspect the club will want Tuesday then Wednesday but I believe Dortmund being home might have first choice.
The draw will also decide the order of the legs for QFs and SFs. I'm assuming we want our potential matches to be drawn second in those if that represents the first tie location.
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I think it could be a much of a muchness now anyway. Whichever bracket we are in, we will have one of the league top two (or an apparently inform PSG) to play as I don't think Benfica will win through. And even for our match, I think both Bruges and Dortmund will offer a tough challenge although I fancy us against either at Villa Park, it will be how well we do away which will decide the tie.
All that's fair enough, and I realise we'll have to play one of the top 2 either way.. However if I were to choose a draw, it would probably be Dortmund next with Inter, Leverkusen and Barca dropping into bracket B with us. Not saying we'd beat Barca (if we get through) but it would be a massive tie and preferable to playing Liverpool yet again. I'd also fancy our chances against the rest of the bracket should we get to the semis.
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CL is correct in stating we can't play anyone in the bottom half of each bracket until the SF. It is just a weird thing to pick up when it is separated into brackets anyway on either side.
I picked it up because people are claiming that we can still face anyone in the quarters which is obviously wrong.
Insight.
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I'd prefer all remaining teams are in the hat each round and you takes your chance on who you'll play.
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I'd prefer all remaining teams are in the hat each round and you takes your chance on who you'll play.
Same. All they needed to do was have all the top 8 in one hat and all the ones who a play off game in another hat then draw the play offs winners for 1st leg and then top 8 in second leg. Then for next round anyone can draw anyone Not rocket science or difficult so not sure why uefa have to complicate it all
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Not rocket science or difficult so not sure why uefa have to complicate it all
I guess it's to give some sort of "reward" for finishing higher up the league. Otherwise it wouldn't really matter if you came first or eighth.
Obviously you could finish first and draw Real Madrid or finish eighth and draw Brugge so it's not exactly flawless, but I assume that's the reasoning.
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I think it could be a much of a muchness now anyway. Whichever bracket we are in, we will have one of the league top two (or an apparently inform PSG) to play as I don't think Benfica will win through. And even for our match, I think both Bruges and Dortmund will offer a tough challenge although I fancy us against either at Villa Park, it will be how well we do away which will decide the tie.
All that's fair enough, and I realise we'll have to play one of the top 2 either way.. However if I were to choose a draw, it would probably be Dortmund next with Inter, Leverkusen and Barca dropping into bracket B with us. Not saying we'd beat Barca (if we get through) but it would be a massive tie and preferable to playing Liverpool yet again. I'd also fancy our chances against the rest of the bracket should we get to the semis.
Agree with all this.
Cliched as it is, there aren't any easy ties now. However, Borussia Dortmund look like they're doing similarly 'well' in the Bundesliga as we are in the Premier League, and I think I prefer their side of the bracket to the other.
Barcelona seem like one of those teams we always beat (over 2 legs) ... like a continental Coventry City type team that are just never going to be as good as the Villa. Then we can go on and beat Bayern (again) in the semi-final, and Phil King can score the winning penalty in the final against Inter. Piece of piss.
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Brackets for the knockout stages have been in place for ages including in 1982. Not many people were calling for individual draws then so why change it. Especially as it means we have to send over club officials for each draw if they did that.
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Lets be positive
At any round no one will want to play in 2 legs against us - especially at VP
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Lets be positive
At any round no one will want to play in 2 legs against us - especially at VP
I doubt they'll allow us to have both legs at Villa Park.
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Bugger, we're not drawing Gravesend and Northfleet, then?
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Not rocket science or difficult so not sure why uefa have to complicate it all
I guess it's to give some sort of "reward" for finishing higher up the league. Otherwise it wouldn't really matter if you came first or eighth.
Obviously you could finish first and draw Real Madrid or finish eighth and draw Brugge so it's not exactly flawless, but I assume that's the reasoning.
.thats probably the logic behind it. Not sure it benefits any side though as most of the sides at the lattee stages are decent. Only thing for me thats a advantage is 2nd leg at home.
Its like the seedings, it doesnt benefit anyone like the old way as your still playing two from each four sections. The old way benefited the bigger sides.
One of the key reasons i prefer this format. Its much more fairer
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I'm sure it's an advantage having not had to play the two high pressure high intensity games that eight of the teams have had to play last week and this. For some of these teams, these games will have felt like two cup finals.
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How does the Champions League quarter-final draw work?
The draw is made to determine the order of the matches (i.e. which team will host the first leg and which team the return leg) as all the potential opponents are known until the final.
Four bowls are prepared for this draw, two for the silver side of the bracket and two for the blue side of the bracket. Each bowl contains two balls representing the winners of the round of 16 matches from one rung of the relevant side of the bracket, with the first silver bowl containing slips of paper marked 'Winners R16 1' and 'Winners R16 2' and the second silver bowl 'Winners R16 3' and 'Winners R16 4'.
The first bowl on the blue side will contain slips of paper marked ‘Winners R16 5’ and 'Winners R16 6' and, finally, 'Winners R16 7' and 'Winners R16 8' in the second bowl on the blue side.
The draw starts by shuffling and then drawing the balls placed in the first bowl of the silver side of the bracket. The first ball drawn from this bowl indicates the team which will play the first match of the quarter-final at home, and the second ball the team which will play the return leg at home.
The procedure is repeated with the remaining bowls to complete the quarter-final pairings.
Obviously also similar for the SF draw, however this last line is interesting.
As the teams were designated to a side of the bracket by the draw for the knockout phase play-off / round of 16, no draw is made for the final. The winners of the semi-final on the silver side of the bracket are designated as the nominal home team for the final.
So if Bayern fluke it to the final, they would be the "away" team in their home ground.
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Brugge please next round.
Then let PSG see off the RedScouse for our first ever meeting with a Paris team, I believe, in our 150th year.
Would be some way to celebrate!
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How does the Champions League quarter-final draw work?
The draw is made to determine the order of the matches (i.e. which team will host the first leg and which team the return leg) as all the potential opponents are known until the final.
Four bowls are prepared for this draw, two for the silver side of the bracket and two for the blue side of the bracket. Each bowl contains two balls representing the winners of the round of 16 matches from one rung of the relevant side of the bracket, with the first silver bowl containing slips of paper marked 'Winners R16 1' and 'Winners R16 2' and the second silver bowl 'Winners R16 3' and 'Winners R16 4'.
The first bowl on the blue side will contain slips of paper marked ‘Winners R16 5’ and 'Winners R16 6' and, finally, 'Winners R16 7' and 'Winners R16 8' in the second bowl on the blue side.
The draw starts by shuffling and then drawing the balls placed in the first bowl of the silver side of the bracket. The first ball drawn from this bowl indicates the team which will play the first match of the quarter-final at home, and the second ball the team which will play the return leg at home.
The procedure is repeated with the remaining bowls to complete the quarter-final pairings.
Obviously also similar for the SF draw, however this last line is interesting.
As the teams were designated to a side of the bracket by the draw for the knockout phase play-off / round of 16, no draw is made for the final. The winners of the semi-final on the silver side of the bracket are designated as the nominal home team for the final.
So if Bayern fluke it to the final, they would be the "away" team in their home ground.
It would be a shame if we had to face them, as it wouldn't be thd first time they'd be beaten in the final on their own ground.
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It would be a shame if we had to face them, as it wouldn't be thd first time they'd be beaten in the final on their own ground.
Bloody Bayern bar stewards, that was one of the few occasions I wanted them to win. See also May 26, 1999.
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Aye, twats. I remember them getting a penalty. Team full of German robots so they send for... a Dutch bloke. FFS.
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It would be a shame if we had to face them, as it wouldn't be thd first time they'd be beaten in the final on their own ground.
Bloody Bayern bar stewards, that was one of the few occasions I wanted them to win. See also May 26, 1999.
Man Utd's second goal that day was my introduction to the word cunt, courtesy of my Dad.
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It would be a shame if we had to face them, as it wouldn't be thd first time they'd be beaten in the final on their own ground.
Bloody Bayern bar stewards, that was one of the few occasions I wanted them to win. See also May 26, 1999.
Man Utd's second goal that day was my introduction to the word cunt, courtesy of my Dad.
I watched the 1999 final in a bar in Shrewsbury where I seemed to be the only person not wanting those ****** to win. The feeling was akin to after a Tory election win. How can so many people be so wrong? Makes one ponder on the futility of life.
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We know we have Dortmund or Bruges.
If we get through we know it will be 1 of the following 4.... Liverpool, Barcelona, Benfica or PSG. Because those are the teams in that part of the draw.
After that it is way too wide open.
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
Same, I don't like them.
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Thirded. Although I do like Paris.
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And SUE has history
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
Same, I don't like them.
However, narrative would demand that we would beat them with a late Asensio winner.
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
Same, I don't like them.
However, narrative would demand that we would beat them with a late Asensio winner.
Oh, well that would be peachy!
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If its Bruges I'd assume ticket collection again as per group game. However if its Dortmund does anyone know if its likely to be e-ticket or ticket collection?
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
.fair enough!If its Bruges I'd assume ticket collection again as per group game. However if its Dortmund does anyone know if its likely to be e-ticket or ticket collection?
. I dont like paris think its one of the worst cities abroad ive been to. Its more for the test to see how we can do against them.
I think they are beatable. Arsenal beat them with ease
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I dont like paris think its one of the worst cities abroad ive been to.
Think I may have mentioned this on here before at some point, but I've spent less than two hours in Paris and still had a bizarre experience.
I was on my way back from Germany via train and was having a cigarette outside Gare du Nord, when a roadsweeper/litter-picker came over and said something in French (at which I'm hopeless) but gesturing for a cigarette. So I offered him one from the pack, which I had purchased while still in Germany.
He looked down at the pack, said "allemande?!" (sp) smacked the pack out of my hand and spat at my feet, before walking off, muttering to himself.
(Sorry for the quote fail.)
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I dont like paris think its one of the worst cities abroad ive been to.
Think I may have mentioned this on here before at some point, but I've spent less than two hours in Paris and still had a bizarre experience.
I was on my way back from Germany via train and was having a cigarette outside Gare du Nord, when a roadsweeper/litter-picker came over and said something in French (at which I'm hopeless) but gesturing for a cigarette. So I offered him one from the pack, which I had purchased while still in Germany.
He looked down at the pack, said "allemande?!" (sp) smacked the pack out of my hand and spat at my feet, before walking off, muttering to himself.
(Sorry for the quote fail.)
I thought London was dirty, but Paris was even worse. I found the people rude and unhelpful too.
It doesnt suprise me your experience though
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I dont like paris think its one of the worst cities abroad ive been to.
Think I may have mentioned this on here before at some point, but I've spent less than two hours in Paris and still had a bizarre experience.
I was on my way back from Germany via train and was having a cigarette outside Gare du Nord, when a roadsweeper/litter-picker came over and said something in French (at which I'm hopeless) but gesturing for a cigarette. So I offered him one from the pack, which I had purchased while still in Germany.
He looked down at the pack, said "allemande?!" (sp) smacked the pack out of my hand and spat at my feet, before walking off, muttering to himself.
(Sorry for the quote fail.)
I thought London was dirty, but Paris was even worse. I found the people rude and unhelpful too.
It doesnt suprise me your experience though
Yeah, very limited experience of course, but I found Paris much like London - massive and full of miserable bastards - but with the added disadvantage that everything was in French.
Outside of Paris, however, I found every French person I encountered to be very friendly and thoroughly charming.
Edit: same with the Germans, who were incredibly polite. So patient with my feeble attempts to speak German, before knowing the exact moment to say that they spoke English, if I'd prefer.
Apart from one police officer in Karlsruhe. He was a condescending twat - but that's my direct experience of English police as well, so y'know.
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I've been to Paris a few times for work and our office there is near Gar du Nord and it is fucking awful. Doesn't surprise me that you bumped into an arsehole by there.
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I've been to Paris a few times for work and our office there is near Gar du Nord and it is fucking awful. Doesn't surprise me that you bumped into an arsehole by there.
He seemed so friendly at first though, Paul. Looked like Ainsley Harriott.
But as soon as he saw those German cigarettes, gott im himmel!
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I think Paris, London, Birmingham, anywhere, it could be a measure of your expectations if you find them miserable bastards.
Everywhere I go, I find great people.
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I think Paris, London, Birmingham, anywhere, it could be a measure of your expectations if you find them miserable bastards.
Everywhere I go, I find great people.
I'd say there's definitely a uniquely capital-city kind of miserable bastard, though.
I thought I was a miserable bastard until I first went to London.
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I live here and love it. But at 57 I still haven’t grown up and moved to the burbs!
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I live here and love it. But at 57 I still haven’t grown up and moved to the burbs!
Fucking cockney 😉
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My Grandad was born and grew up in Lewisham, by the way, so not just aimlessly slagging off Londoners.
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I think I'd be happy to make it to the QF, to be honest. Not being a pessimist or anything, but anything beyond that would be a bonus.
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I think I'd be happy to make it to the QF, to be honest. Not being a pessimist or anything, but anything beyond that would be a bonus.
Without wishing to ruin this train of thought with the financials but I’d imagine we only budgeted for the group games maybe a play off. R16 is already above and beyond and as a fan I thought R16 was a pipe dream back in the summer.
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Bollocks*, we're in it to win it.
Is it likely? No. But we lost to Bradford over a two-leg SF with Swansea to face in the final, so going the easy route hasn't exactly worked for us either.
*not saying your opinions are bollocks
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All European games of any level are fantastic; we visit new places, they visit Birmingham.
Win, Lose, or Draw, it goes beyond the football.
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If its Bruges I'd assume ticket collection again as per group game. However if its Dortmund does anyone know if its likely to be e-ticket or ticket collection?
If it’s collection is should be fun as the allocation is over 4,000.
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All European games of any level are fantastic; we visit new places, they visit Birmingham.
Win, Lose, or Draw, it goes beyond the football.
I agree, and I think the fact that 'Big Six' (thooo) clubs have regularly been in Europa League over recent seasons shows that, if we're genuine about being a serious club long-term, we shouldn't see it as 'do or die', 'CL or nothing every season or our best players will leave' like it's still 2008.
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Quite. As we've seen, our best players leave even if we do qualify for the Champions League...
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Quite. As we've seen, our best players leave even if we do qualify for the Champions League...
I've found our player turnover since Unai came in really quite odd.
I feel like he's sold more of his own signings than ones he inherited. Do the stats back that up, anyone?
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I've just crunched the numbers and the answer is quite possibly.
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I've just crunched the numbers and the answer is quite possibly.
Thank god someone here is good with stats and able to provide a conclusive answer!
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If its Bruges I'd assume ticket collection again as per group game. However if its Dortmund does anyone know if its likely to be e-ticket or ticket collection?
If it’s collection is should be fun as the allocation is over 4,000.
The pre-season friendly was an e-ticket that I printed at home and then scanned the QR code but you had to buy that via Dortmund's website so it may be different for a CL game.
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I've just crunched the numbers and the answer is quite possibly.
Thank god someone here is good with stats and able to provide a conclusive answer!
He just needs to lick his finger a bit more, and then hold it a bit higher in the breeze for a more accurate reading.
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Can't be done apart from extreme circumstances as the team that plays first leg Tuesday alternates to Wednesday and vice versa.
I can believe 4th and 12th though as that would be our preferred with FA Cup on Friday before 1st leg and Brentford in between on Saturday.
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Yes that was my first thought as well about Tue/Wed.
And ignore my last post, now deleted, as the source turned out to be a twat.
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Does anyone know if you are in the Champions League membership scheme (where money is deducted for tickets automatically) it rolls over for the home leg last 16 ? I didn't read the blurb when I enrolled.
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As if we're in the last 16 of the CL. Mad.
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Thirded. Although I do like Paris.
I went to visit family last year and got mugged and then my dad got mugged next day , think Ill give it a miss from now on.
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Which part?
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Will we find out today if we at home on the Tuesday or Wednesday?
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Hoping for brugges but bet we get dortmund
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Watching this with a vested interest is mad !
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Hopefully we get Lille.
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Get on with it!
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We could be first out the pot
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Had to tell the Sangwell fans in our racing group that I could talk because of the CL draw being on.
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Numberwang!
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6 years ago we were in the bottom half of the Championship. This is beyond a dream.
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It's us!
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We are in the upper bracket V Brugge
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Yea procedure is really clear!
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Club Brugge.
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Bruges !!!! Yesss!!!
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Club Brugge.
Aftab will be pleased. ;)
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Real vs Atletico.
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Right Bruges membership activated
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Same side as Atletico.
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We'll also be the home team in the Final :)
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All Spanish, All German.
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Happy with that. We should be good enough to continue our record of always reaching at least the QF.
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Arsenal in our side.
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Arsenal v PSV.
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A good draw, that. Particularly when you consider we could've ended up facing Barcelona or Inter or teams like that.
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C'mon Villa, revenge.
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For the home/aways, is first out home first match?
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All Spanish and all German ties must help the prospect of 5th place qualifying for the CL.
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All English sides in same Bracket.
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Liverpool vs PSG.
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All English sides in same Bracket.
That's rubbish.
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Tough one for Liverpool.
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Our route to the final could be beating Bruge, beating Plop and beating Arse.
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A good draw, that. Particularly when you consider we could've ended up facing Barcelona or Inter or teams like that.
No we couldn't. It was Bruges or Dortmund.
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For the home/aways, is first out home first match?
No. Seeded team home second.
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I think we play liverpool or psg of we beat brugges right?
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For the home/aways, is first out home first match?
No we are away first leg but waiting to see if tues or wed
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I think we play liverpool or psg of we beat brugges right?
Yes.
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That's as good as we could have hoped for, probably. I know they beat us already, but it was a ridiculous mistake from Mings that did it. We've improved the squad since then too.
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
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Liverpool or PSG if we get through.
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A good draw, that. Particularly when you consider we could've ended up facing Barcelona or Inter or teams like that.
No we couldn't. It was Bruges or Dortmund.
Oh, thanks for the info. I wish someone had explained it in advance.
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Villa, Liverpool and arsenal all in the same half of the draw
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I think we play liverpool or psg of we beat brugges right?
Exactly… i’d love Villa to hammer psg. But the road is long till then.
UTV
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
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Looks like we'll face one of the Madrid teams in the semi-final.
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If we get through, we have home second legs all the way to the final.
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
Well, it might be important down the road. At the moment it’s not big at all, because we need to beat Brugge which is no easy task.
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Second leg at home in semi final
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
Well, it might be important down the road. At the moment it’s not big at all, because we need to beat Brugge which is no easy task.
Well nice to know though isn't it. A bit more of an incentive.
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
Well, it might be important down the road. At the moment it’s not big at all, because we need to beat Brugge which is no easy task.
Clearly given they've beaten us already.
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That's as good as we could have hoped for, probably. I know they beat us already, but it was a ridiculous mistake from Mings that did it. We've improved the squad since then too.
It's a kind draw for sure. Not only did we gift them the game previously we also barely turned up and were still the better team. We'll crush them.
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
Well, it might be important down the road. At the moment it’s not big at all, because we need to beat Brugge which is no easy task.
Clearly given they've beaten us already.
In a one-off match.
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Club Brugge last 16
Liverpool or PSG QF
Arsenal, PSV, Atletico or Real Madrid SF if we get through.
Second leg would be at Villa Park in each round.
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Brugges, QF - PSG, SF - Real Madrid. That would be a nice route to the final.
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Second legs at home is great in theory, but being the pessimistic person I am, I'd be concerned we'd lose 4-0 at Anfield/PSG, and have a dead rubber of a second leg at home, massively diluting the experience of a Champions League Quarter Final match at Villa Park.
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For the home/aways, is first out home first match?
No we are away first leg but waiting to see if tues or wed
When is this decided
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Great draw for us. If we get to the Semi-Final all our second legs Willa be at the home of football (Villa Park). Can't wait to get revenge on Brugge first up.
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Beating Brugges won't be easy. As we've seen, they are the type of team we'll play our aimless walking football against and sleepwalk into a loss. We are more switched on vs the better teams.
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We owe Brugges one.If only for Balaban. Mings to score.
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Couple of days ago some were saying that Brugges would be like a bye into the next round. We draw them and some of us are suddenly talking them up. Life as a football fan.
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If there is one team who I'd most fancy to beat Real Madrid over two legs, it would be Atletico.
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Couple of days ago some were saying that Brugges would be like a bye into the next round. We draw them and some of us are suddenly talking them up. Life as a football fan.
Winnable games are what other teams have, not Villa!
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We owe Brugges one.If only for Balaban. Mings to score.
Why? We signed him from Dinamo Zagreb.....
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What are the initial thoughts from the Brugga boyos on their forums?
BV is usually our external correspondent. Dunno how good is Flemish is though.
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I feel for the fans who can go to these games and must have been dreaming of the Bernabau/Nou Camp this year and have ended up with (potentially)
Young Boys
Brugge x2
Leipzig
Monaco
Anfield
Emirates
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Brugge have Gent away the weekend before the 1st leg and a local derby at Cercle between the two legs. Hopefully they both stay where they are and Cercle kick them all over the pitch. More likely though, they have a free midweek the weekend before the 1st leg so I reckon the Belgian League will move one of the games to then to help them out.
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Anyone any idea what time UEFA announce these tie days for Bruges ie Tue/Weds or Weds/Tue. I realise the suits said later tonight but anyone got any insight?
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I feel for the fans who can go to these games and must have been dreaming of the Bernabau/Nou Camp this year and have ended up with (potentially)
Young Boys
Brugge x2
Leipzig
Monaco
Anfield
Emirates
We couldn't have gone to Nou Camp, it's being redeveloped and so they're playing at the stadium that beat us to host the 1992 Olympics.
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Any info on tickets prices for Brugge at home? Hope they keep it sensible
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I feel for the fans who can go to these games and must have been dreaming of the Bernabau/Nou Camp this year and have ended up with (potentially)
Young Boys
Brugge x2
Leipzig
Monaco
Anfield
Emirates
Thoughts and prayers to them.
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BV is usually our external correspondent. Dunno how good is Flemish is though.
It's rubbish, I rarely get colds.
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Brugge got a lucky break in the first leg against Atalanta, getting one of the worst penalty decisions you'll ever see. They caught Atalanta on the break in the second leg & were very clinical. They remind me of Forrest.
We have no excuses, if we turn up, over 2 legs we should beat them.
Anything after that is a bonus.
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Anyone any idea what time UEFA announce these tie days for Bruges ie Tue/Weds or Weds/Tue. I realise the suits said later tonight but anyone got any insight?
Later tonight......
I expect we will know by 5ish. I expect the first one might be 17:45 Tuesday (which will be Villa's preference) and then Wednesday 8pm.
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Any info on tickets prices for Brugge at home? Hope they keep it sensible
I can't see any reason why it would be less then the group games. Then Heck's percentage on top to be added.
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Wow.
Have to say a big thanks to Unai & everyone whose contributed along the way.
Some excitement incoming.
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Bayern in the final to continue our 100% record?
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Do we have any indication at this point whether we will be Tuesday or Wednesday for the Quarter final second leg if we make it through? Or is that only decided once the teams are known?
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Anyone any idea what time UEFA announce these tie days for Bruges ie Tue/Weds or Weds/Tue. I realise the suits said later tonight but anyone got any insight?
Later tonight......
I expect we will know by 5ish. I expect the first one might be 17:45 Tuesday (which will be Villa's preference) and then Wednesday 8pm.
Bruges currently home on the Sunday before
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No one mention getting revenge against Atletico?
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Do we have any indication at this point whether we will be Tuesday or Wednesday for the Quarter final second leg if we make it through? Or is that only decided once the teams are known?
I think it will be announced later, probably some time after the other European tournaments are drawn.
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Do we have any indication at this point whether we will be Tuesday or Wednesday for the Quarter final second leg if we make it through? Or is that only decided once the teams are known?
The latter as how do you arrange something when you don't know the opponents.
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Which part?
Bastille
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Lucky Paris getting to host the loveable Scouse rogues again!
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Bruges currently home on the Sunday before
They might rearrange that to Friday or even another week as most leagues aren't as fixture congested as the English one.
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We owe Brugges one.If only for Balaban. Mings to score.
Why? We signed him from Dinamo Zagreb.....
Haha...yeah, he went to Brugges after us! synapses not synapping today!
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Any info on tickets prices for Brugge at home? Hope they keep it sensible
I can't see any reason why it would be less then the group games. Then Heck's percentage on top to be added.
Was thinking it would go up a bit tbh, just over £100 ??
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We owe Brugges one.If only for Balaban. Mings to score.
Why? We signed him from Dinamo Zagreb.....
Haha...yeah, he went to Brugges after us! synapses not synapping today!
They might owe us then.
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The monumental Bellend that is Jim White just said about the draw
"A mouth watering quarter final between Arsenal and Liverpool" what a clown
I really hope PSG & PSV beat them both to not give them any hope.
In this competition with our Manager - we should fear no one
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BV is usually our external correspondent. Dunno how good is Flemish is though.
It's rubbish, I rarely get colds.
Can it be any worse than eamonn's English though?
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So its Brugge, Liverpool, Real Madrid, then Barcelona in the final.
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Any info on tickets prices for Brugge at home? Hope they keep it sensible
Blimey, give them chance. The draw was only half hour ago.
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UEFA not keen on english clubs getting the top 5 .
Should be ok for 5 I would imagine . Explain the hand ball rule to Ty and should be ok with Brugge , hopefully a few players back too. im sure the fans had a good time in Brugge last time . I forgot Lille was even still in .
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UEFA not keen on english clubs getting the top 5 .
Should be ok for 5 I would imagine . Explain the hand ball rule to Ty and should be ok with Brugge , hopefully a few players back too. im sure the fans had a good time in Brugge last time . I forgot Lille was even still in .
TBH, it makes more of a chance of getting 5th place qualification being as if they all win their respective matches to get an all English semi-final, one is through to the final. And one Spanish / German team is already knocked out at R16.
Edit: TBH if all English clubs are knocked out at this stage in all the European competitions, I still think we would finish top 2 of the coefficient this season.
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Lille certainly got a better route to the final than us.
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A poster on the Beeb's website, "Liverpool in the quarters will be tricky, Madrid in the semi will run them close, but Villa should have too much physicality for Barcelona in the final." :)
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A poster on the Beeb's website, "Liverpool in the quarters will be tricky, Madrid in the semi will run them close, but Villa should have too much physicality for Barcelona in the final." :)
I did wonder if Turk was someone on here.
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A poster on the Beeb's website, "Liverpool in the quarters will be tricky, Madrid in the semi will run them close, but Villa should have too much physicality for Barcelona in the final." :)
I did wonder if Turk was someone on here.
We can probably rule Demitri out.
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The monumental Bellend that is Jim White just said about the draw
"A mouth watering quarter final between Arsenal and Liverpool" what a clown
I really hope PSG & PSV beat them both to not give them any hope.
In this competition with our Manager - we should fear no one
Can't meet until the semi final anyway, clown indeed.
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A poster on the Beeb's website, "Liverpool in the quarters will be tricky, Madrid in the semi will run them close, but Villa should have too much physicality for Barcelona in the final." :)
I did wonder if Turk was someone on here.
We can probably rule Demitri out.
I thought that was Anon slightly further up.
Aston Villa fan who is happy with the draw but seeing everyone thinking it’s an easy win is crazy considering Brugge beating Atalanta and us while we couldn’t beat 10 man Ipswich at home
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SHA already salivating at the thought of Jude knocking us out. I admire their confidence in us.
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PSG would be a interesting one as we have never played them. Would love to see how we did against them
I've zero interest in playing PSG (nothing to do with thinking they'd beat us). The whole club comes across as unpleasant.
I now have a greater interest in playing PSG.
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Just booked my trip to Brugge. These are exciting times to be a Villa fan!
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We'll also be the home team in the Final :)
That’s the spirit 👍
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I thought that was Anon slightly further up.
Aston Villa fan who is happy with the draw but seeing everyone thinking it’s an easy win is crazy considering Brugge beating Atalanta and us while we couldn’t beat 10 man Ipswich at home
A twat you mean?
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The Villa app is showing the games as 8pm Tuesday away and 8pm Tuesday 11th at home.
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Couple of days ago some were saying that Brugges would be like a bye into the next round. We draw them and some of us are suddenly talking them up. Life as a football fan.
Anyone calling them a bye was ludicrously complacent. We play to our best we should win, but they’re no mugs as demonstrated when they thumped Atalanta and beat us.
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The Villa app is showing the games as 8pm Tuesday away and 8pm Tuesday 11th at home.
Can't be done. I expect it is more a placeholder for those weeks.
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Liverpool drawn first so we have home leg second.
Thats fucking massive
Well, it might be important down the road. At the moment it’s not big at all, because we need to beat Brugge which is no easy task.
I didnt say be easy but its a big incentive for us. Just being positive thats all!
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Liverpool in the QF would be a let down in terms of Champions League glamour ties, but it would also be a great draw in the sense that we play them regularly, we know how they work, we really should have beaten them mid week there, and all in all I think there'd be less fear or intimidation there. Also a lot less travel involved.
Obviously we have to get there first.
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why the f@@k does keown co commentator on Arsenal games , he bloody represents them .
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Good draw for us as long as Mings doesn't take up crown green bowls again.
And we have to stick our chances away
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Its annoying the brugges 2nd leg isnt a week after as we have no other league game after brentford for a while. We could have done with the additional rest
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BV is usually our external correspondent. Dunno how good is Flemish is though.
It's rubbish, I rarely get colds.
Can it be any worse than eamonn's English though?
Bad English is back.
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Bruge are clearly no pushovers, but player for player we should be quite a distance ahead of them.
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At villa park the gane will be a completely different kettle of fish. We have to basically do the opposite in what we did in the group game and we should have too much for them if we play as we know we can
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Attack the bastards. Let's get back to Villa Park with a lead.
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Let’s hope we don’t underestimate them. We shouldn’t, given the way we performed in the league phase against them.
They outplayed Atalanta in the home leg and were tactically good in the 2nd leg.
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It will be great if we can beat Brugges and move on. We’d all have been delighted by that at the start of the season. This game is no walk in the park. And we know from past cup experience that just because we get what might be perceived as an easier draw it doesn’t always turn out that way. 2 legs and the swoons one at Villa Park is always a massive plus.
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Hopefully the train strikes in Belgium won't continue. I think they are due to end on Sunday 2nd March. Fingers crossed.
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Villa in Bruges, Arsenal in Eindhoven, Spurs in Alkmaar & Liverpool in Paris - St Pancras and the ferries are going to be a little busy that week.
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We can beat anyone on our day. We've shown it already.
Anyway, I wonder what the odds of us facing the following to win the thing.
Brugge
PSG
PSV
Lille.
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Anyway, I wonder what the odds of us facing the following to win the thing.
Brugge
PSG
PSV
Lille.
More chance of Yanited getting 50 home draws out of 57.
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Couple of days ago some were saying that Brugges would be like a bye into the next round. We draw them and some of us are suddenly talking them up. Life as a football fan.
People saying it was a bye have very short memories.
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Anyway, I wonder what the odds of us facing the following to win the thing.
Brugge
PSG
PSV
Lille.
More chance of Yanited getting 50 home draws out of 57.
So you're saying there's a chance!
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Dont let Martinez pass to Mings
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Beautiful city and really enjoyed the trip last time but that Brugge away end was like going back to the 1980's. Awful place to watch football..
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If we beat Club Brugge, it’s a guaranteed £9 million. If we win the FA Cup, £2 million. That’s not a swipe at the FA Cup, which I’d love to win, but just noting the financial difference.
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Pl-op 'supporting' Brother in law moaning about the new format saying there's no reward for finishing top of the group and we've got an easier draw than them.
Cry more you glory hunting plastic.
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We're 100% on the shit side of the draw, both for strength and all the English sides. Would've rathered Dortmund as I think we might just have had a chance on the other side. Liverpool and Madrid is probably too strong. Liverpool and then Arsenal would be both brilliant (semis) and absolutely shit (because).
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If we beat Club Brugge, it’s a guaranteed £9 million.
Not to be sneezed at.
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Pl-op 'supporting' Brother in law moaning about the new format saying there's no reward for finishing top of the group and we've got an easier draw than them.
Cry more you glory hunting plastic.
Not our fault the 24th placed Bruges beat the 9th placed Atalanta, I hope you've told him where to go.
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I'm happy with the draw just need to take a lead back to Villa Park.
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Right Bruges membership activated
Don’t think that’ll work, Jon. Did that for the first game and they were only elling to accounts opened two days before the draw.
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Pl-op 'supporting' Brother in law moaning about the new format saying there's no reward for finishing top of the group and we've got an easier draw than them.
Cry more you glory hunting plastic.
Apart from the millions more they get for finishing top of course there is no "reward". But there was no real reward for finishing top in the old format. Yes they would play a second placed team but that could still be a "top" team. The last time they finished top of the group, they had Inter in the 16, Season before was Leipzig, and the one before that was Atletico (who beat them).
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Their ground is shit and the food they served our lot in the away end tuck shop was like something from the Eastern Bloc in 1985. Grim as fvck, m'Lord.
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Let’s hope we don’t underestimate them. We shouldn’t, given the way we performed in the league phase against them.
They outplayed Atalanta in the home leg and were tactically good in the 2nd leg.
Yes. If we go all-out attack, they're screw us on the break. It will be a closely-fought tie.
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
Yes
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
We are home second for all knockouts
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
We are home second leg in all rounds if we get through, as mentioned earlier in the thread. And to top it off, we will be the home side in the final, although it means we won't be wearing iconic white shirts.
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Their ground is shit and the food they served our lot in the away end tuck shop was like something from the Eastern Bloc in 1985. Grim as fvck, m'Lord.
My underestimation of the strength of the Belgian beer I was drinking all day, meant I quite enjoyed the stadium. I was in the home end though.
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
We are home second for all knockouts
That’s a big bonus.
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
yes
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Everyone seems to think Barcelona have an easy route to the final. I reckon Lille with give them a kicking in the next round.
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You do? Why?
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Anything can happen but yeah, I'm not sure about that.
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I am in Trinity Road middle tier and just got this email; enlarged press box needed?...🤔
As we approach the draw for the Last 16 of the UEFA Champions League, we are writing to inform you of some unavoidable changes to your seating block.
The rules relating to the latter stages of the competition require us to allocate additional space for an enlarged press box. The only available solution is to use some seats in your block and on that basis your normal seat is unavailable for this game.
We will be running our UEFA Champions League Cup Scheme on Saturday and going on sale to all current Season Ticket Holders from Monday. As you will not be able to purchase your seat, you will be able to relocate to any available seat that is suitable either online or by calling the ticket office on 0333 323 1874. There will also be a small window before we go on sale to AVFC members where you will be able to purchase your seat in any seats that haven’t been claimed by other Season Ticket Holders.
We are sorry for this unavoidable situation and hope that you find a suitable seat for the match
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En-larged press box - you'll never sing that.
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Great to have progressed this far with realistic hopes of going further. I think when this started most of us were thinking finish 24th or higher. Have Man City fans started calling it the Chumps league yet ?
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I love how opposition fans (ipswich did it on sat) sing
"Champions League, you're having a laugh"
Having not experienced nights like that before, i know that every single one of them would give their teeth to be in it and have games like we have had.
That first one against Bayern will go down in folk lore
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Couple of days ago some were saying that Brugges would be like a bye into the next round. We draw them and some of us are suddenly talking them up. Life as a football fan.
People saying it was a bye have very short memories.
I said that and I stand by it. They have had tremendous amount of luck in matches so far and only just managed to scrape into knock out stage in 24th place. We wont sleepwalk against them again.
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Away Leg on Tues 04/03/2025 - 17:45pm ko (GMT)
Home Leg on Weds 12/03/2025 - 20:00pm ko (GMT)
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/21/champions-league-draw/
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Away Leg on Tues 04/03/2025 - 17:45pm ko (GMT)
Home Leg on Weds 12/03/2025 - 20:00pmko (GMT)
Good news, thanks.
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I love how opposition fans (ipswich did it on sat) sing
"Champions League, you're having a laugh"
Having not experienced nights like that before, i know that every single one of them would give their teeth to be in it and have games like we have had.
That first one against Bayern will go down in folk lore
Now we've qualified for / are playing in the CL, I find that particular chant as the most absurdly shite one possible. And there is a VERY obvious response to a team like Ipswich.
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Any info on tickets prices for Brugge at home? Hope they keep it sensible
I can't see any reason why it would be less then the group games. Then Heck's percentage on top to be added.
Was thinking it would go up a bit tbh, just over £100 ??
I went to see Betis v Gent last night. Granted it was Conference but only 20 Euro a ticket, anywhere in the ground.
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I expect we will know by 5ish. I expect the first one might be 17:45 Tuesday (which will be Villa's preference) and then Wednesday 8pm.
INSIIIIIGGGHHHTTTT
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Everyone seems to think Barcelona have an easy route to the final. I reckon Lille with give them a kicking in the next round.
I dont even think lille will beat dortmund tbh
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Away Leg on Tues 04/03/2025 - 17:45pm ko (GMT)
Home Leg on Weds 12/03/2025 - 20:00pm ko (GMT)
Thanks mate. All booked up now via Eurostar.
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Booking flights is so effing stressful. I was planning on going through Charleroi and getting the bus or train across to Bruges but the price on the flights i wanted went from about £150 to £400 in the space of about 3 minutes. lol
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why the f@@k does keown co commentator on Arsenal games , he bloody represents them .
That occurred to me, it's one thing being an ex player and fan like Hendrie, but on the payroll....
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Booking flights is so effing stressful. I was planning on going through Charleroi and getting the bus or train across to Bruges but the price on the flights i wanted went from about £150 to £400 in the space of about 3 minutes. lol
Try Zavantem - still good prices to there from Heathrow and easy train to Bruges
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Away Leg on Tues 04/03/2025 - 17:45pm ko (GMT)
Home Leg on Weds 12/03/2025 - 20:00pm ko (GMT)
Thanks mate. All booked up now via Eurostar.
What are you on ? We're on Monday 1pm out staying until Friday.
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Booking flights is so effing stressful. I was planning on going through Charleroi and getting the bus or train across to Bruges but the price on the flights i wanted went from about £150 to £400 in the space of about 3 minutes. lol
Try Zavantem - still good prices to there from Heathrow and easy train to Bruges
That's what I did, looks like Brussels Airlines aren't so keen on dynamic pricing as that robbing bastard at Ryanair.
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These 1745 KO's are annoying , thought it would all be 8pm from here onwards
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That's what I did, looks like Brussels Airlines aren't so keen on dynamic pricing as that robbing bastard at Ryanair.
Pretty much every airline operates dynamic pricing i.e. revenue management. It's probably just that fewer Villa fans were looking for flights on Brussells Airlines.
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I'm probably missing something here, but how is it that all the English teams are on one side of the draw (and the Germans all on the other)? Is this coincidence or some other EUFA scheme?!
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Coincidence. Not sure what 'EUFA' benefit from it though if it wasn't that route.
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I'm probably missing something here, but how is it that all the English teams are on one side of the draw (and the Germans all on the other)? Is this coincidence or some other EUFA scheme?!
Coincidence/luck of the draw and a desire to have an German/English final in Munich 80 years after the end of WWII.
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That's what I did, looks like Brussels Airlines aren't so keen on dynamic pricing as that robbing bastard at Ryanair.
Pretty much every airline operates dynamic pricing i.e. revenue management. It's probably just that fewer Villa fans were looking for flights on Brussells Airlines.
Probably. It did go up on the route/times I’d chosen but only about £20.
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On the fixtures update on my calendar it has the home game on Tuesday 11th.
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It was a placeholder which hasn't been updated yet.
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Ticket on sale dates now on the app and OS. Staggered according to number of games attended
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(https://i.ibb.co/M5fcwGk2/Screenshot-20250221-181726.png) (https://ibb.co/M5fcwGk2)
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No prices yet though?
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(https://i.ibb.co/M5fcwGk2/Screenshot-20250221-181726.png) (https://ibb.co/M5fcwGk2)
Common sense at last.
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No prices yet though?
Taking the cash tomorrow for us in the scheme!
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No prices yet though?
Same prices as before.
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Finally the club take note of the previous ticketing shambles and it’s not a free for all
Probably still crash like usual
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It was a placeholder which hasn't been updated yet.
Cheers.
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Help ! I've just had a debate with a bloke in the who says if we beat Brugges and play Liverpool we are away 2nd leg. I believe we are home 2nd leg. Who is right ?
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Help ! I've just had a debate with a bloke in the who says if we beat Brugges and play Liverpool we are away 2nd leg. I believe we are home 2nd leg. Who is right ?
You are correct.
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Not rocket science or difficult so not sure why uefa have to complicate it all
I guess it's to give some sort of "reward" for finishing higher up the league. Otherwise it wouldn't really matter if you came first or eighth.
Obviously you could finish first and draw Real Madrid or finish eighth and draw Brugge so it's not exactly flawless, but I assume that's the reasoning.
Substitute PSG for Real and you nailed that!
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🚨💣 Aston Villa are set to breach UEFA spending rules for 2024 — sanction likely to be a fine.
@martynziegler
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
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🚨💣 Aston Villa are set to breach UEFA spending rules for 2024 — sanction likely to be a fine.
@martynziegler
This is from UEFA's website:
Cost control and the squad cost rule
The new regulations will see clubs subject to squad cost controls for the first time. The cost control rule restricts spending on player and coach wages, transfers, and agent fees to 70% of club revenues.
(The gradual implementation will see the percentage at
90% in 2023/2024,
80% in 2024/2025,
and 70% in 2025/2026)
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These 1745 KO's are annoying , thought it would all be 8pm from here onwards
Me too. I'll be lucky to be home in time for it.
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🚨💣 Aston Villa are set to breach UEFA spending rules for 2024 — sanction likely to be a fine.
@martynziegler
The full article is behind the Times paywall. Don’t mind a financial sanction compared to a possible ban.
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🚨💣 Aston Villa are set to breach UEFA spending rules for 2024 — sanction likely to be a fine.
@martynziegler
The full article is behind the Times paywall. Don’t mind a financial sanction compared to a possible ban.
The Times
Aston Villa’s challenges in complying with Uefa and the Premier League’s financial regulations were exposed last week when they asked fellow top-flight clubs to increase increase the limit on spending on player wages and transfers.
Villa are expected to be in breach of Uefa’s squad cost ratio (SCR) rules for 2024, which limited clubs in European competition to spending 80 per cent of their revenue on player costs and will drop to 70 per cent for 2025. A financial penalty of several million pounds is likely to be the outcome of such a breach.
The Premier League had planned to adopt SCR for next season but with an 85 per cent limit. That was still not high enough for Villa, who wrote to fellow clubs asking for it to be raised to 90 per cent — a move that failed to attract much support.
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
Yes, sat in the home end behind the goal with my son. It was fine.
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Can't wait to see where the Heck'ometer goes with this one .
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Beautiful city and really enjoyed the trip last time but that Brugge away end was like going back to the 1980's. Awful place to watch football..
Totally agree, I thought it was a death trap and glad that we didn’t score.
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
I got four together behind the ‘away’ goal. Didn’t have any issues at all. There were quite a few other Villa in there, as well. Obviously, we didn’t score, so there was no reactions from any home fans
(https://i.ibb.co/R4NwVR1H/IMG-8365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4NwVR1H)
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(https://i.ibb.co/M5fcwGk2/Screenshot-20250221-181726.png) (https://ibb.co/M5fcwGk2)
Common sense at last.
Agreed, happy with that criteria.
Not happy about having to get up at noon to make sure wifey gets on the site though.
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(https://i.ibb.co/M5fcwGk2/Screenshot-20250221-181726.png) (https://ibb.co/M5fcwGk2)
Common sense at last.
Agreed, happy with that criteria.
Not happy about having to get up at noon to make sure wifey gets on the site though.
Personally disappointed as I missed the Bologna game but it’s only fair that all those who have done all 4 home games get first dibs. Looks like it’ll be a late start to work on the Monday!
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Liverpool in the QF would be a let down in terms of Champions League glamour ties, but it would also be a great draw in the sense that we play them regularly, we know how they work, we really should have beaten them mid week there, and all in all I think there'd be less fear or intimidation there. Also a lot less travel involved.
Obviously we have to get there first.
Yeah, my dad was saying he’d rather us play Liverpool over 2 legs in the knockout rounds than play them in a final where they’ll be spawny gits like they always are. So he’s happy with the draw in that regard
Me, I don’t mind who we beat on our way to the final. And then extend our unbeaten record against Bayern Munich. Just hope we don’t have to sub on Olsen in the first few minutes!
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Seems a good draw to me.
Don't let Mings near any goal kicks, we have the beating of them.
Onto the next round if everyone's favourite scallywags get through.
We can show that shinny headed ungracious twat that Villa park is a real football Olympus to travel to, and yes maybe we put on a fireworks display before the game and singe their arses during the game.
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UEFA should have done a parallel draw for the Villa’s centre back pairings.
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
I got four together behind the ‘away’ goal. Didn’t have any issues at all. There were quite a few other Villa in there, as well. Obviously, we didn’t score, so there was no reactions from any home fans
(https://i.ibb.co/R4NwVR1H/IMG-8365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4NwVR1H)
Concur with Lenny here I was down in the front in the same section and no issues and a few Bruges fans knew I was English. Usual rules apply though, don’t be a dick and sit on your hands.
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
I got four together behind the ‘away’ goal. Didn’t have any issues at all. There were quite a few other Villa in there, as well. Obviously, we didn’t score, so there was no reactions from any home fans
(https://i.ibb.co/R4NwVR1H/IMG-8365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4NwVR1H)
Concur with Lenny here I was down in the front in the same section and no issues and a few Bruges fans knew I was English. Usual rules apply though, don’t be a dick and sit on your hands.
Are the tickets sent electronically or are they actual tickets. We have friends that moor a barge in Eeklo and may use their address
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https://www.footballticketnet.com/champions-league/club-brugge-vs-aston-villa?_gl=1*um42su*_up*MQ..*_gs*MQ..&gclid=CjwKCAiA5eC9BhAuEiwA3CKwQv3HF0VhSysZaa6cwGJh3C9NvCwTN0eweRVnjQZIxssreckkDtGQpBoCHSEQAvD_BwE&gbraid=0AAAAApzgMNMmA1kD0WmpGsCzLGWMkv_36
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I was in the opposite end to the away fans by the corner flag. Mings picked the ball up in front of me so I knew immediately it would be a penalty.
Knew at least half a dozen other Villa fans in there. It was fine but mainly because we had nothing to cheer. I think that given the beer drunk that afternoon it may have been different if we’d scored as Villa fans would have probably celebrated.
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Did anyone on here, get home tickets for the last Bruges game, and what was it like?
I got four together behind the ‘away’ goal. Didn’t have any issues at all. There were quite a few other Villa in there, as well. Obviously, we didn’t score, so there was no reactions from any home fans
(https://i.ibb.co/R4NwVR1H/IMG-8365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4NwVR1H)
Concur with Lenny here I was down in the front in the same section and no issues and a few Bruges fans knew I was English. Usual rules apply though, don’t be a dick and sit on your hands.
Are the tickets sent electronically or are they actual tickets. We have friends that moor a barge in Eeklo and may use their address
Print at home or e-ticket. One of ours was off a WhatsApp pic of the ticket. No ID checks either.
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Anyone know if there will be a showing of the away leg at Villa Park? I was hoping to watch the Barcelona youth game live then the first team match on TV.
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talking of the draw , just wish they would put 8 balls in one bag for seeded and 8 balls for the unseeded . Id prefer just 16 in the bag but prefer draws each round instead of the routes already planned.
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Can someone please correct the spelling to Brugge in the title?
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The only reason they are still in is because of Mings. Hopefully it won't come back to bite us.
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Probably already mentioned on here , In Bruges is a great film starring a villa fan.
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The only reason they are still in is because of Mings. Hopefully it won't come back to bite us.
who would we have played in the draw If he hadnt?
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Zagreb would have been 24th, I can't see them beating Atalanta though.
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Probably already mentioned on here , In Bruges is a great film starring a villa fan.
"Maybe that's what hell is: the entire rest of eternity spent in fuckin' Bruges."
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If we get Liverpool next round. Will we be at home second leg?
We are home second for all knockouts
That’s a big bonus.
That's a massive advantage for us being at home in the second leg.
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Zagreb would have been 24th, I can't see them beating Atalanta though.
We'd have finished higher, though. Assuming every other result went the same, we'd be playing Bayern Munich.
Good work, Tyrone.
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That's a massive advantage for us being at home in the second leg.
However that wasn’t the case in the last round. No team playing at home in the second leg managed to change the first leg outcome.
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That's a massive a
dvantage for us being at home in the second leg.
However that wasn’t the case in the last round. No team playing at home in the second leg managed to change the first leg outcome.
Just PSV (after extra-time) and tbf, only 3 of the home teams were behind in their ties.
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As anyone in the cup scheme had their ticket payment taken yet?
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As anyone in the cup scheme had their ticket payment taken yet?
Yes. I checked a few minutes ago and my tickets are showing in my account.
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Details of the tickets for the away leg
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/21/Club-brugge-ticket-details-first-leg/
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As anyone in the cup scheme had their ticket payment taken yet?
Yes , taken yesterday. Had an email before telling me they were going to take payment on Saturday.
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As anyone in the cup scheme had their ticket payment taken yet?
Yes. I checked a few minutes ago and my tickets are showing in my account.
Thanks for the response nothing showing for me yet. I had to request a replacement card the other week so wondering if that could be an issue.
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Can someone please correct the spelling to Brugge in the title?
Their full name is:
Club Brugge Koninklijke Voetbalvereniging
(Club Bruges Royal Football association)
On their badge it says Club Brugge KV
So where do they play. Bruges or Brugge?
Belgium is a bi-lingual nation.
In Flanders - Flemish is the language
In Wallonia - it's French
Bruges/Brugge is in Flanders where Flemish is the language
Flemish speakers call it Brugge,
Those pesky French speakers call it Bruges - probably just to annoy the locals as much as anything else.
Hope that helps.
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Wouldn't it be better just to leave the title as "Champions League", as this is for general chat about the competition and potential opponents, whereas we will have a match thread once we are closer to the Brugge game. You're effectively going to have two match threads otherwise which would, obviously, be catastrophic.
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Hi all, long time lurker here, first time poster. Just wondering if anyone had an idea of whether the home tickets will reach the three game criteria? I’ve been to all four games but my lad’s only been to three, and I really want to take him to this one!
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Hi all, long time lurker here, first time poster. Just wondering if anyone had an idea of whether the home tickets will reach the three game criteria? I’ve been to all four games but my lad’s only been to three, and I really want to take him to this one!
Claret, Villan & Cubs Members who have attended 3 or more UEFA Champions League home matches in the 2024/25 season - Monday, March 3rd, 9.30am
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Friday, February 28th if you've been to all 4, 12pm.
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Hi all, long time lurker here, first time poster. Just wondering if anyone had an idea of whether the home tickets will reach the three game criteria? I’ve been to all four games but my lad’s only been to three, and I really want to take him to this one!
My guess would be it would get to three almost certainly. You could have a look throughout the day of the four tickets window and keep an eye in it. I'm hoping it gets to one plus myself.
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Hi all, long time lurker here, first time poster. Just wondering if anyone had an idea of whether the home tickets will reach the three game criteria? I’ve been to all four games but my lad’s only been to three, and I really want to take him to this one!
I would think and hope so as I’m in the same boat as your son. Judging by the threads on here at the time the Bologna game was key as many were either saving their money or going to it having missed out on the Bayern game and worried about getting tickets for the other home games. It’ll definitely get to the 3 game criteria but it’ll be a case of getting in there as quick as possible imo.
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Their full name is:
Club Brugge Koninklijke Voetbalvereniging
(Club Bruges Royal Football association)
On their badge it says Club Brugge KV
So where do they play. Bruges or Brugge?
Belgium is a bi-lingual nation.
In Flanders - Flemish is the language
In Wallonia - it's French
Bruges/Brugge is in Flanders where Flemish is the language
Flemish speakers call it Brugge,
Those pesky French speakers call it Bruges - probably just to annoy the locals as much as anything else.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, Footy!
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Their full name is:
Club Brugge Koninklijke Voetbalvereniging
(Club Bruges Royal Football association)
On their badge it says Club Brugge KV
So where do they play. Bruges or Brugge?
Belgium is a bi-lingual nation.
In Flanders - Flemish is the language
In Wallonia - it's French
Bruges/Brugge is in Flanders where Flemish is the language
Flemish speakers call it Brugge,
Those pesky French speakers call it Bruges - probably just to annoy the locals as much as anything else.
Hope that helps.
Thanks, Footy!
Sem problemas algum.
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Thanks to those who responded to my question. I’ll cross my fingers, wait for Monday and hope the website isn’t the usual car crash.
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Thanks to those who responded to my question. I’ll cross my fingers, wait for Monday and hope the website isn’t the usual car crash.
I’m in the same boat as I had to go to Brussels the day of the Juventus game. Fingers crossed
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The challenge is getting 2 seats together. Me and my lad have been to all 4 but still got to be quick when we able to purchase online….the site is a pain and has thrown up some issues.
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Wouldn't it be better just to leave the title as "Champions League", as this is for general chat about the competition and potential opponents, whereas we will have a match thread once we are closer to the Brugge game. You're effectively going to have two match threads otherwise which would, obviously, be catastrophic.
Yes I think that would be better. So either a Mod or that pesky Frenchman who statred it can make the change but BE doesn't post here anymore.
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I think for those worrying about the site, the fact they’ve put the Members window into categories is surely going to help avoid the usual absolute scrum.
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Thanks to those who responded to my question. I’ll cross my fingers, wait for Monday and hope the website isn’t the usual car crash.
Sorry, I completely misread your post. Good luck for you and your lad! 🤞
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Am I right in saying that we're the only game on at the early kick off time? Almost certain we'll be on Irish TV, hopefully?
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What is the actual pronunciation, Brugga or Brooj?
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Broo-gur. If you want to pronounce it likes locals would.
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I am Broo-gur off.
There were 4000+ in the ticket queue ahead of me. WTF is all that about when it was only max criteria at 10?
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They might not all have been queuing for the same thing. I was just in the queue buying Barcelona youth tickets.
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I am Broo-gur off.
There were 4000+ in the ticket queue ahead of me. WTF is all that about when it was only max criteria at 10?
I think the STH window for the Home leg opened early and everyone piled in🙄.
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We were in the 2pm slot for the away game, been sat in there for an hour, refreshing every 5 minutes - straight in at 2pm on the button but no luck. I think they'd gone well before that but the site said "Coming soon".
Definitely would be game to get seats in the home end - anyone else planning that or that could help with the tickets?
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We were in the 2pm slot for the away game, been sat in there for an hour, refreshing every 5 minutes - straight in at 2pm on the button but no luck. I think they'd gone well before that but the site said "Coming soon".
Definitely would be game to get seats in the home end - anyone else planning that or that could help with the tickets?
Sounds like you might not have been logged in properly? Anyway sold out.
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We were in the 2pm slot for the away game, been sat in there for an hour, refreshing every 5 minutes - straight in at 2pm on the button but no luck. I think they'd gone well before that but the site said "Coming soon".
Definitely would be game to get seats in the home end - anyone else planning that or that could help with the tickets?
Sounds like you might not have been logged in properly? Anyway sold out.
Definitely logged in on two devices. I hit BUY the millisecond it hit 2pm but just got the error message straight away.
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They might not all have been queuing for the same thing. I was just in the queue buying Barcelona youth tickets.
I knew it would be you plus Tim Villa. That makes 4000.
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A note for anyone going on the EuroStar train, you have to select the option to get the free ticket from Brussels to Bruges, its not automatic and some of our party were caught out.
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We've gone for Eurostar Snap, only £45 out and £45 back but won't know what time we've been allocated until 48 hours before but it's between 06:16 and 13:00 out and 07:56 and 14:00 coming back. Doesn't include the onward journey so will get a train ticket from Brussels to Bruges. If we are on the early one back (will find out Monday) then might not be a train that early as you have to be at Eurostar an hour early at least but we'll cross that bridge later. Might get a lunchtime one yet.
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Wozwebs, if you are on the early train back you could head back to Brussels after the game. You’d probably be back at Bruges station around 9.30 pm and I reckon there would be trains to Brussels at that time.
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There's trains pretty much through the night.
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Yes, checked on the excellent seat61 site and there is a 5:52am train from Bruges that gets us into Brussels for 6:52am so should be fine.
https://www.seat61.com/Belgium#london-to-brussels-by-train
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Yes, checked on the excellent seat61 site and there is a 5:52am train from Bruges that gets us into Brussels for 6:52am so should be fine.
https://www.seat61.com/Belgium#london-to-brussels-by-train
EDIT: Just checked on https://www.belgiantrain.be/en and trains start at 4:09am so will be fine. Hopefully on the lunch time one but if not at least we are back in London bright and early
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Going to first ever overseas game with my son who has managed to get us tickets. Having missed the final in 82 as I had exams the next day (shit decision) I am really chuffed about this.
Living down south we are going through the Shuttle and driving there. Only 80 mins from Calais. Excited
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Have a wonderful time montague with your son mate.
Hopefully your first away trip abroad can give you something to remember
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Have a wonderful time montague with your son mate.
Hopefully your first away trip abroad can give you something to remember
Cheers cant wait
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Am I right in saying that we're the only game on at the early kick off time? Almost certain we'll be on Irish TV, hopefully?
Confirmed, the game is on Virgin Media 2.
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Going to first ever overseas game with my son who has managed to get us tickets. Having missed the final in 82 as I had exams the next day (shit decision) I am really chuffed about this.
Living down south we are going through the Shuttle and driving there. Only 80 mins from Calais. Excited
Where did you get your tickets Montague? All I’ve seen so far are in the €200-250 category
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Just had the reminder from Villa about buying my ticket for the Bruges game - totally forgot about buying the ticket!
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Just had the reminder from Villa about buying my ticket for the Bruges game - totally forgot about buying the ticket!
They’re sending reminders now are they? You’d have thought that they’d hang in there to make the extra £20 .
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Wow, that was surprisingly easy, logged on 2mons before 12, got them no issues. Looks like they have sorted a few bugs.
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Wow, that was surprisingly easy, logged on 2mons before 12, got them no issues. Looks like they have sorted a few bugs.
I thought the same, all sorted quickly without any stress, hopefully they realise it works better when the criteria is split and it's not a free for all for all Members
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Wow, that was surprisingly easy, logged on 2mons before 12, got them no issues. Looks like they have sorted a few bugs.
I thought the same, all sorted quickly without any stress, hopefully they realise it works better when the criteria is split and it's not a free for all for all Members
Agreed. The assign owner button was working straight away this time too.
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I think it's because there were a lot less logging in to buy. But it did work a dream
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There's something wrong with the website I reckon. It's letting anyone click the Buy button, although you can't actually buy the ticket if it's not your window.
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It looked almost sold out before 12 which can't be right can it?
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Wow, that was surprisingly easy, logged on 2mons before 12, got them no issues. Looks like they have sorted a few bugs.
Yes, wifey said the same - after causing much displeasure by first telling me they’d sold out.
Very funny. Not.
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Wow, that was surprisingly easy, logged on 2mons before 12, got them no issues. Looks like they have sorted a few bugs.
I thought the same, all sorted quickly without any stress, hopefully they realise it works better when the criteria is split and it's not a free for all for all Members
This. Got straight in at 12 noon, all available seats showing and got & paid for 3 tickets by 12.07. Hopefully they'll do the same if we progress in the CL and FA Cup.
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There's something wrong with the website I reckon. It's letting anyone click the Buy button, although you can't actually buy the ticket if it's not your window.
That's because there are always GA+ available to buy......
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Anyone had their codes for the away ticket app ? Got mine and the wife has had hers but can only create one account on the app it seems. As she doesn't have a smartphone this could be problematic unless anyone has any ideas how I create a second account on the app ?
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Anyone had their codes for the away ticket app ? Got mine and the wife has had hers but can only create one account on the app it seems. As she doesn't have a smartphone this could be problematic unless anyone has any ideas how I create a second account on the app ?
Think you might need to speak to the TO LS as it's app only so you're going to need a smartphone. Can she borrow one?
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There's something wrong with the website I reckon. It's letting anyone click the Buy button, although you can't actually buy the ticket if it's not your window.
That's because there are always GA+ available to buy......
Thanks for explanation but this doesn't happen for league games does it? Doubt it's going to get to 1+ window based on website now. I can't figure out why the middle blocks in Trinty and Witton Upper, which are always the last to sell out for league games, are sold out already for this. In fact they were supposedly sold out just with ST holders.
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You definitely logged on? The website has a habit of constantly logging people out again.
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I've been logged on all day under two different accounts. The entire middle blocks Trinity and Witton upper have been showing as sold out all day. I managed to get my brother a ticket incredibly easily in another part of the Trinity Upper but when my own window comes round Monday I thought the best chance would be the aforementioned sold out sections. It just seems odd because those were the easiest places to get tickets for previous games.
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Club Brugge playing tomorrow, so we may actually be fresher than them.
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Just looked and doesn’t appear to be a lot of tickets left.
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Anyone had their codes for the away ticket app ? Got mine and the wife has had hers but can only create one account on the app it seems. As she doesn't have a smartphone this could be problematic unless anyone has any ideas how I create a second account on the app ?
Think you might need to speak to the TO LS as it's app only so you're going to need a smartphone. Can she borrow one?
Thanks. I've got an old iPhone knocking around somewhere so we'll get her on that I suspect. Actual ticket appears Sunday evening it seems.
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
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Club Brugge playing tomorrow, so we may actually be fresher than them.
Not an easy game for them either. Will be interesting to see if they are going to start with their first team.
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
It worked for me on Android. Did you change the country code to +44?
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
Maybe they read your reviews of their stadium.
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
It worked for me on Android. Did you change the country code to +44?
And remove the first 0 from your number.
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Not a fan of these 1745 hours kick offs.
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
It worked for me on Android. Did you change the country code to +44?
And remove the first 0 from your number.
Yes did all that, still no joy :-[ iPhone issue maybe?
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Has anyone had a problem authenticating Jan Breydel stadium app? On inputting my phone number it said it’s invalid and pushing send code button works but no code received?
Maybe they read your reviews of their stadium.
Belgians have eyes everywhere. Even their pigs are trained in espionage. Said that because once a Belgique business associate told me that their's is the only country in the world that has more pigs than humans.
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All worked for me on my iphone. Changed the first bit to united kingdom and did second bit as my number with no spaces and no 0 (manually typed it in) and text received about 10 seconds later from club robo.
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Not a fan of these 1745 hours kick offs.
They're great when we're away. Would be a nightmare at VP.
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All worked for me on my iphone. Changed the first bit to united kingdom and did second bit as my number with no spaces and no 0 (manually typed it in) and text received about 10 seconds later from club robo.
Cheers for that tip. All good now. My number was getting auto filled and I was deleting +44. So I did as you said.
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Not a fan of these 1745 hours kick offs.
They're great when we're away. Would be a nightmare at VP.
They're really crap if you're trying to get home From work in rush hour to get it on the telly . Much prefer an 8pm slot
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Sure, fair enough. For someone who shirks from home, I like them. You still have most of the evening to yourself afterwards. Rubbish trying to get to sleep when you've just been aggravated watching Villa.
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Sure, fair enough. For someone who shirks from home, I like them. You still have most of the evening to yourself afterwards. Rubbish trying to get to sleep when you've just been aggravated watching Villa.
Brings back shudders of my time in China when I’d try to get to sleep after the late Saturday or Sunday games when we were 7 or 8 hours ahead of UK time. My last year there was the McLeish season so a lot of aggravated moods going to bed and being physically unable to nod off.
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It's too early to have your tea before KO and too late after, particularly if you have an early start and no Gaviscon to hand
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It's too early to have your tea before KO and too late after, particularly if you have an early start and no Gaviscon to hand
It’s fine, it’s just pancakes on Tuesday.
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Wrong thread
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Sure, fair enough. For someone who shirks from home, I like them. You still have most of the evening to yourself afterwards. Rubbish trying to get to sleep when you've just been aggravated watching Villa.
Yeah but when we win them you can sleep like Homer Simpson.
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I'm seeing a pre-match thread for a Champions League knockout game. Need to lay off the crack.
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Just realised I'm in the wrong thread. REALLY need to lay off the crack.
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Nah. The way the world is, I'd stay on the crack.
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Good advice. Crack it is.
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Well bugger me with a fish fork!
Done and dusted with a home ticket within 3 minutes of the window opening.
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Well bugger me with a fish fork!
Done and dusted with a home ticket within 3 minutes of the window opening.
I don't suppose you saw if there were many left?
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Well bugger me with a fish fork!
Done and dusted with a home ticket within 3 minutes of the window opening.
I don't suppose you saw if there were many left?
hey rob - just checked and it looks like there are some would say maybe 150 - though I expect that there will be a lot of demand tomorrow as 3 games to 1 is a big jump. Annoyingly Ive been to 2 plus they stopped counting last season Conference games in which I went been to most so hoping for a bit of luck.
It seems strange how it works - basically at 10am they all seemed sold out - but they seem to have found more. No idea how it works. I assume its something to do with whats in a basket etc.
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Well bugger me with a fish fork!
Done and dusted with a home ticket within 3 minutes of the window opening.
I don't suppose you saw if there were many left?
Just had a quick count up and I reckon there’s a few more than Beard82.
Depends where you normally sit. Good 500 in upper North, few in the lower. Handful in lower and mid Trinity and 100 or so in the upper. Just a few singles dotted around the Holte. Lower Witton closest to Holte has the most together and the Upper Witton has a few hundred.
Good luck
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I checked upper North and there I cant see more than 20 + 20 GA
Unless Im missing something (which would be great as really want to get tickets)
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Also - lower wittan has 4 in for me. Not sure if thats how it works? Shows different things to different people?
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I checked upper North and there I cant see more than 20 + 20 GA
Unless Im missing something (which would be great as really want to get tickets)
Same here. No idea where 500 has come from. They've been up and down all day but strangely there seems to be more now than at any other point.
For those who haven't tried yet, anyone can get in now and you can put them in your basket 40 minutes before the window opens and then buy them as it does. This is completely different to every other match this season as far as I'm aware and to my mind it has created confusion about the true availability of tickets.
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There does seem to be quite a lot in Upper Trinity now, A1 and A3. Also P1 has good availability
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I agree - I added 2 to my basket earlier - and there now not in my basket but also not avaiable for sale.
I work on a ticketing system so have been trying to work out the logic - and wonder if they have something around releasing tickets it seems to be a long time to do that. Like you say this evening there is more than there seemed to be when I checked this morning which doesnt make much sense.
But then - to be honest - never obesively checked like this before. Pretty sure they will go and come back throughout the day. Just need to cancel a few meetings and hope for the best.
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There does seem to be quite a lot in Upper Trinity now, A1 and A3. Also P1 has good availability
Yeah exactly and they were "sold out" earlier. My other theory is they stagger the release to avoid odd 1s being left everywhere
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Good luck
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Just checked again T2 upper north is showing around d a third of seats available and around 100 in each of T3 and T4.
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Just checked again T2 upper north is showing around d a third of seats available and around 100 in each of T3 and T4.
In those 3 - I see 5 seats
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Just checked again T2 upper north is showing around d a third of seats available and around 100 in each of T3 and T4.
In those 3 - I see 5 seats
You calling me a liar!😉
Nah it’s strange, not sure what’s going on. You might expect a small discrepancy but it appears to be quite big.
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Yeah no idea how it works - there must be some logic behind it.
Anyone good luck to all those trying to get tickets
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But then - to be honest - never obesively checked like this before. Pretty sure they will go and come back throughout the day. Just need to cancel a few meetings and hope for the best.
Didn't have to weight long then....
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I got one in my basket and it won;t let me buy, saying exceeded etc., when I went to 2 CL games, Celtic and Juve!
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2025/3/4/a6ebd0e5-e9fb-4db5-847b-89646cd13103.png.webp)
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I got one in my basket and it won;t let me buy, saying exceeded etc., when I went to 2 CL games, Celtic and Juve!
All standard priced ones gone as far as I could tell.
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I got one in my basket and it won;t let me buy, saying exceeded etc., when I went to 2 CL games, Celtic and Juve!
All standard priced ones gone as far as I could tell.
They were coming in and out, but for some reason my laptop browser wasn't allowing me to buy. Swapped to mobile via the App and it was OK, albeit slim pickings by then, so got one near the back of A7. Strange.
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
I hope Opta delivers PSG to the quarter final.
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
I hope Opta delivers PSG to the quarter final.
I am sure they will give p.lop a game yet our media think P.lop are invincible - they have been good this year but it still is basically lump it over the top for Salah to run on to it
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I got one in my basket and it won;t let me buy, saying exceeded etc., when I went to 2 CL games, Celtic and Juve!
All standard priced ones gone as far as I could tell.
I had that - you had to open a new browser window and logout and login again (which means it gets lost). I got as far as checkout only to realise the guy I was going with didnt renew his membership and it experied on Saturday :( :(
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
I hope Opta delivers PSG to the quarter final.
I am sure they will give p.lop a game yet our media think P.lop are invincible - they have been good this year but it still is basically lump it over the top for Salah to run on to it
I would love the chance to dump those fuckers out of the Champions League, that would be so fucking sweet.
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Is it too soon to start looking at the dates of the QF ties?
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Is it too soon to start looking at the dates of the QF ties?
No, as long as you don't book the flights and hotel.
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Is it too soon to start looking at the dates of the QF ties?
I think days and KO times will be decided by the Thursday/Friday after the second leg.
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Is it too soon to start looking at the dates of the QF ties?
No, as long as you don't book the flights and hotel.
Yes, look quietly, don't share your results and don't book a single fucking thing until we're through. Thank you.
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*checks notes*
Agree with sexual ealing
*runs for cover *
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The home game against Bruges is on Virgin Media 2 next week. Arsenal game is relegated to their More channel.
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The home game against Bruges is on Virgin Media 2 next week. Arsenal game is relegated to their More channel.
The Less channel would be more appropriate.
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2025/3/4/a6ebd0e5-e9fb-4db5-847b-89646cd13103.png.webp)
Updated Opta after first leg matches.
(https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/opta-supercomputer-champions-league-projections-1536x1152.jpeg)
After the first leg at Paris, they seem to think Liverpool are easily through AND have actually increased their chances of progressing now we are their more likely opponents.
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Opta probably thinks their name is on the cup now after the events on Wednesday night.
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2025/3/4/a6ebd0e5-e9fb-4db5-847b-89646cd13103.png.webp)
Updated Opta after first leg matches.
(https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/opta-supercomputer-champions-league-projections-1536x1152.jpeg)
After the first leg at Paris, they seem to think Liverpool are easily through AND have actually increased their chances of progressing now we are their more likely opponents.
Nope, it's nothing to do with us and everything to do with them having a first leg lead. Our chances percentages are higher across all 4 for the same reason, they've risen inline with the increase of winning in this round.
Arsenal are the simplest example. They've gone from 74.5% to 100%, so an increase of 33% from the previous value.
from there the following columns are:
40.9 > 52.5 (28%)
20.5 > 25.2 (23%)
11.6 > 13.8 (19%)
The impact lessens as more variables are added (i.e the more games to play) but every value is increased relative to the current round.
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The one thing that will make me very happy in a Keiran Kieran Ciaran Clarke Clark kind of way after Wednesday night regardless of the outcome is that I will hopefully see very little of the word Brugge again. To my knowledge there are no Flemish speaking people on this site so why it ever appeared in the first place is a complete mystery.
Yours forever
In Bruges.
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Yep it's a Bugger isn't it?
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We used to get a ferry to Zeebrugge
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The locals were telling us that it is pronounced Broo- her, but that they can't understand people from 20 miles away and they would pronounce it differently.
It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience). Which may explain why those talented national team players never win anything.
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The short answer about Bruges V Brugge is that Brugge is the Flemish/Dutch spelling and that most people in Brugge are Flemish. Antwerp or Antwerpen is more common than Anvers for the same reason. Or Mechelen rather than Malines. And the g in Flemish/Dutch is like an h, or more like the ch sound at the end of 'loch'.
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The locals were telling us that it is pronounced Broo- her, but that they can't understand people from 20 miles away and they would pronounce it differently.
It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience). Which may explain why those talented national team players never win anything.
Did some work with Ministry of Education in the French speaking part of Belgium, they knew nothing of what went on in the Flemish speaking part and less of what went on in the German speaking part. All three areas had their own separate department of education and I am presuming their own department of everything else as well. I tried to ask a few questions about the other area but they did not want to talk about it. I think after the last election it took them about 6 months to set up a govt.
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The locals were telling us that it is pronounced Broo- her, but that they can't understand people from 20 miles away and they would pronounce it differently.
It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience). Which may explain why those talented national team players never win anything.
Did some work with Ministry of Education in the French speaking part of Belgium, they knew nothing of what went on in the Flemish speaking part and less of what went on in the German speaking part. All three areas had their own separate department of education and I am presuming their own department of everything else as well. I tried to ask a few questions about the other area but they did not want to talk about it. I think after the last election it took them about 6 months to set up a govt.
That’s mad!
I was working with Belgian companies 15-20 years ago and remember that Flemish speakers generally spoke some French whereas the Wallons spoke no Flemish. As a result the unemployment rates were much lower for the Flemish population as they could work across the country. No idea if that is still the case.
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The locals were telling us that it is pronounced Broo- her, but that they can't understand people from 20 miles away and they would pronounce it differently.
It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience). Which may explain why those talented national team players never win anything.
Did some work with Ministry of Education in the French speaking part of Belgium, they knew nothing of what went on in the Flemish speaking part and less of what went on in the German speaking part. All three areas had their own separate department of education and I am presuming their own department of everything else as well. I tried to ask a few questions about the other area but they did not want to talk about it. I think after the last election it took them about 6 months to set up a govt.
That’s mad!
I was working with Belgian companies 15-20 years ago and remember that Flemish speakers generally spoke some French whereas the Wallons spoke no Flemish. As a result the unemployment rates were much lower for the Flemish population as they could work across the country. No idea if that is still the case.
All sounds about right. We're in education and have offices in Belgium and, as above, we have to have separate versions of our products for Flanders and Wallonia, not just because of language but because they have very different needs, it's really odd. In my experience the Flanders side is much easier to work with.
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It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience).
The Black Country is at least united by a common language - gibberish.
(Sorry in advance, Dave W.)
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The big one next. Huge game. Please villa dont cock this up. Take it seriously put everything into it. As we have a nice rest after this
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The locals were telling us that it is pronounced Broo- her, but that they can't understand people from 20 miles away and they would pronounce it differently.
It sounds like a country where there are very strong local differences and rivalries, similar to the Black Country (in my experience). Which may explain why those talented national team players never win anything.
Did some work with Ministry of Education in the French speaking part of Belgium, they knew nothing of what went on in the Flemish speaking part and less of what went on in the German speaking part. All three areas had their own separate department of education and I am presuming their own department of everything else as well. I tried to ask a few questions about the other area but they did not want to talk about it. I think after the last election it took them about 6 months to set up a govt.
That’s mad!
I was working with Belgian companies 15-20 years ago and remember that Flemish speakers generally spoke some French whereas the Wallons spoke no Flemish. As a result the unemployment rates were much lower for the Flemish population as they could work across the country. No idea if that is still the case.
All sounds about right. We're in education and have offices in Belgium and, as above, we have to have separate versions of our products for Flanders and Wallonia, not just because of language but because they have very different needs, it's really odd. In my experience the Flanders side is much easier to work with.
Stupid, easy-to-get-on-with Flanders.
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Every one of our CL goals so far
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1899567925113032865?s=46
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If we do somehow manage to get past Brugge what day do we play in Paris? 8 or 9 April?
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2025/3/4/a6ebd0e5-e9fb-4db5-847b-89646cd13103.png.webp)
Updated Opta after first leg matches.
(https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/opta-supercomputer-champions-league-projections-1536x1152.jpeg)
After the first leg at Paris, they seem to think Liverpool are easily through AND have actually increased their chances of progressing now we are their more likely opponents.
Well this super Opta machine is a bit shit
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If we do somehow manage to get past Brugge what day do we play in Paris? 8 or 9 April?
Won't know until Friday I expect. Might be sooner if clubs have got together beforehand with prospective opponents.
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Liam Gallagher is on board the Emery Express. https://x.com/liamgallagher/status/1899723535997653204
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Last teams standing
Villa
Dortmund
Barcelona
Arsenal
Bayern
Inter
PSG
Real/Atletico
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Need a mod to change the thread title to our next victims.
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Last teams standing
Villa
Dortmund
Barcelona
Arsenal
Bayern
Inter
PSG
Real/Atletico
Quality line up! Proud of our progress these last couple of years.
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Need a mod to change the thread title to our next victims.
Yes the PSG thread must commence ! Brilliant !
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1-1 away leg, 2-1 win at home. Into the semis.
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That’d be nice - I do wonder if they might underestimate us.
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They excel at times, but can be got at. I think we have superior firepower
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That’d be nice - I do wonder if they might underestimate us.
The French media already do.
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So to win this we have to beat PSG, then probably Real M and Barca. Bring it on!
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If we beat PSG then the likelihood is....
Wed 30th April Real Madrid v Aston Villa at the Bernabeau, Champions League Semi Final 1st leg.
Just let that possibility sink in.
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This season has been crazy. We're still on the brink of it being astounding, but equally so, we could end up with nothing and outside the European places for next season.
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This season has been crazy. We're still on the brink of it being astounding, but equally so, we could end up with nothing and outside the European places for next season.
At the start of the seaon, I just said I was going to enjoy the journey. I have failed completely at that aim. But in the UCL at least - I have.
This season could be amazing - the greatest for over 40 years - how often have we been able to say that (well, apart from last season).
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It could be the greatest ever, or at least for 128 years.
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It ain’t cheap to get to Paris.
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It could be the greatest ever, or at least for 128 years.
Would a European and FA Cup double beat a League and Cup double ?
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I reckon. Although I fancy we would have absolutely twatted the best that Europe had to offer had such tournaments existed in 1897. The Scottish teams might have given us a game, though. Sadly, we don't seem to have tested the theory that year, but were "world champions" in 1887, 1894 and 1900 (shared).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_World_Championship
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It could be the greatest ever, or at least for 128 years.
Would a European and FA Cup double beat a League and Cup double ?
I'd gladly take an either-cup single!
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It could be the greatest ever, or at least for 128 years.
Would a European and FA Cup double beat a League and Cup double ?
I'd gladly take an either-cup single!
That's coward talk. For shame.
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It could be the greatest ever, or at least for 128 years.
Would a European and FA Cup double beat a League and Cup double ?
I'd gladly take an either-cup single!
That's coward talk. For shame.
Sorry.
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
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That's the better way round, IMO, so happy with that. Would rather have extra recovery time after Forest than Southampton. Only downside is we have to win to have any chance of being Britain's last surviving team as the Arsenal second leg is the day after ours.
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
I had forgotten that we would be at home in the second leg - that’s huge! (As long as we don’t screw the first leg up!)
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I know we shouldn’t look beyond this game but for us to win the CL we will likely have to beat PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona. We couldn’t could we?
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I know we shouldn’t look beyond this game but for us to win the CL we will likely have to beat PSG, Real Madrid and Barcelona. We couldn’t could we?
Or PSG, Arsenal and Dortmund.
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
Cheers. Booked via Dublin £129. Flight to Beauvais with return coach trip from airport to Paris €29. Takes about an hour.
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We're basically Wales in Euro 2016.
- Qualified for the tournament for the first time in a generation.
- General feeling that we should get out of the groups and that anything else would be a bonus.
- Performed above expectations in the group.
- Earned ourselves a relatively favourable last 16 draw, which we won.
- Quarter final against one of the tournament favourites that we aren't expected to beat, but that we're quietly confident we can cause problems.
Heroic semi final defeat to Real Madrid and Mbappe on the cards then.
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I never thought we should go out in the groups and anything else would be a bonus. Which 24 teams did you think would most likely finish above us?
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I never thought we should go out in the groups and anything else would be a bonus. Which 24 teams did you think would most likely finish above us?
Should get out of the groups (as in finish in the top 24) and anything else is a bonus, as opposed to should go out in the groups and anything else is a bonus.
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Fair enough, misread.
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I never thought we should go out in the groups and anything else would be a bonus. Which 24 teams did you think would most likely finish above us?
Thought we'd finish mid table get through one KO round and lose to biggie in last 16.
QF exceeded expectations especially when you consider 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and Citeh out.
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
Does that mean that the home tie is likely to be shown live on Amazon Prime rather than on TNT?
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FIRST LEGS
8 April
Arsenal vs Real Madrid
Bayern München vs Inter
9 April
Paris vs Aston Villa
Barcelona vs Borussia Dortmund
SECOND LEGS
15 April
Aston Villa vs Paris
Borussia Dortmund vs Barcelona
16 April
Real Madrid vs Arsenal
Inter vs Bayern München
All games kick off at 21:00 CET
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
Does that mean that the home tie is likely to be shown live on Amazon Prime rather than on TNT?
Correct as Amazon have the pick of the Tuesday ties so have selected Arse v Madrid first leg and our second leg.
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In case anyone’s missed it:
Away Leg - 8pm Wednesday 9th April
Home Leg - 8pm Tuesday 15th April
Does that mean that the home tie is likely to be shown live on Amazon Prime rather than on TNT?
Assuming it stays the same and they get first pick of Tuesday night games, yes, most likely.
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Opta computer doing its weirdness.
<snip>
Updated Opta after first leg matches.
(https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/opta-supercomputer-champions-league-projections-1536x1152.jpeg)
After the first leg at Paris, they seem to think Liverpool are easily through AND have actually increased their chances of progressing now we are their more likely opponents.
Opta still doesn't like us. I'm surprised they have Arse as favourites against Real though.
(https://theanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/champions-league-predictions-quarter-finals-onwards-1024x768.jpeg)
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I'm not sure I make Inter favourites against Bayern either, and 20% for Dortmund to put Barcelona out seems too low.
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
And whatever it is - it will sell out - as he and we all know
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
Did you imagine same price as all the other home CL games?
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Second leg on sale tomorrow.
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No one did!
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PSG are charging £105.
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I think the only way he puts the charges up from the extortionate level they’re at already would be a semi against Real Madrid and even then I’m not sure told be that much more. We’ll see.
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I see the air prices and Eurostar prices have gone obscene for the Tuesday/Wednesay to Paris!
I tentatively looked yet=sterday and flights were about £200 return. Now £500-600
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
i registered with their site but it wont sell tickets to me.
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
i registered with their site but it wont sell tickets to me.
For the reason I pointed out above Jon, only to "hospitality" and "club premium" members at this stage.
Can't see when the tickets go on general sale however, which is annoying.
Everyone tells me it's super hard to get tickets at PSG - 48k stadium, 37k STHs - but am encouraged by the fact that they're still selling tickets for the Marseille game on Sunday, so there may yet be hope (albeit via Ticketpricing, €200 a piece...).
Do we know what our allocation is yet, by the way?
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Train Hotel Booked, just need tickets now.
If not I am sure there will be somewhere to watch the game with a cold one.
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Train Hotel Booked, just need tickets now.
If not I am sure there will be somewhere to watch the game with a cold one.
That's my plan.
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
i registered with their site but it wont sell tickets to me.
Do we know what our allocation is yet, by the way?
It’ll be 2,000 like Liverpool & Man City got.
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
i registered with their site but it wont sell tickets to me.
For the reason I pointed out above Jon, only to "hospitality" and "club premium" members at this stage.
Can't see when the tickets go on general sale however, which is annoying.
Everyone tells me it's super hard to get tickets at PSG - 48k stadium, 37k STHs - but am encouraged by the fact that they're still selling tickets for the Marseille game on Sunday, so there may yet be hope (albeit via Ticketpricing, €200 a piece...).
Do we know what our allocation is yet, by the way?
Sounds like it might be just over 2000 which will be below the 5% UEFA minimum.
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
Did you imagine same price as all the other home CL games?
Not sure how i could have thought about what the QF prices would be until we actually qualified?
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Didn't you think about them at 1pm today when you posted your comment?
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
Did you imagine same price as all the other home CL games?
Not sure how i could have thought about what the QF prices would be until we actually qualified?
Sorry, I thought when you were imagining how much they’d be, you were imagining how much they’d be. Easy mistake to make.
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PSG are charging £105.
Yeah, currently €125, but only selling to season ticket holders and "club premium" members.
i registered with their site but it wont sell tickets to me.
For the reason I pointed out above Jon, only to "hospitality" and "club premium" members at this stage.
Can't see when the tickets go on general sale however, which is annoying.
Everyone tells me it's super hard to get tickets at PSG - 48k stadium, 37k STHs - but am encouraged by the fact that they're still selling tickets for the Marseille game on Sunday, so there may yet be hope (albeit via Ticketpricing, €200 a piece...).
Do we know what our allocation is yet, by the way?
Sounds like it might be just over 2000 which will be below the 5% UEFA minimum.
I hear from French friends that the reduced allocation is for segregation purposes. Was the same for Liverpool and Mancity
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Prices for the 2nd leg are on the OS
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/13/paris-saint-germain-second-leg-ticket-details/
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After this round of European games , does it strengthen or lessen the chance of 5th place qualifying for a champions league spot?
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We're so far ahead, it's not really worth thinking about.
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English clubs need one more win to make sure. Difficult to imagine Chelsea won't win at least one of their meetings with Legia Warsaw even if all the rest get knocked out (I think two draws between us would be enough, too).
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Can imagine how much hecks gonna charge for that home game.
Did you imagine same price as all the other home CL games?
Not sure how i could have thought about what the QF prices would be until we actually qualified?
Sorry, I thought when you were imagining how much they’d be, you were imagining how much they’d be. Easy mistake to make.
Its fine i accept your apology
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What are PSG saying about us? Dismissive or wary?
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Not really picked much up in the local press so far.
We get a mention most days on the radio right now though. :)
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Anyone know which blocks the away fans will be in yet? I've found conflicting info, that usually they are in the one corner, but then I found a thing from Man City to their fans for a game in 2021 where they were diagonally opposite to the one widely suggested. My daughter lives in Paris and has booking history with PSG so we are investigating her getting a couple in the home end, but we'd not want to be behind the goal (ultras in both ends apparently) as near to away fans as possible.
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Believe north east, sections 101 and 102.
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Is footballticket.com legit?
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Dunno. Would be wary.
The official reseller is Ticketplace.
As I said yesterday, given that there are still a few available on there for this Sunday’s Classico - for which tickets are highly sought obvs - am encouraged that there will be some available for this match.
The advantage is that there are no restrictions, so open to the general public. The downside is that they look seriously expensive (2-400 euros) and you may not be able to get more than singles.
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Dunno. Would be wary.
The official reseller is Ticketplace.
As I said yesterday, given that there are still a few available on there for this Sunday’s Classico - for which tickets are highly sought obvs - am encouraged that there will be some available for this match.
The advantage is that there are no restrictions, so open to the general public. The downside is that they look seriously expensive (2-400 euros) and you may not be able to get more than singles.
cheers.
I have resigned yself to paying over the odds, don’t want to get scammed although UK credit card should protect me.
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Think you’ll deffo be able to pick up a single from Ticketplace (and me too, resigned to paying through the nose - but will need 4 for the fam).
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I was in Paris last year (fantastic city) but be wary i was at the packed train station right by the stadium and there are a lot of dodgy people there and i was pick pocketed whilst attempting to board the train in a crowd.
The Police were not helpful at all and said that they would have no chance of ever finding the perps.
Keep everything close by and out of sight
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I was in Paris last year (fantastic city) but be wary i was at the packed train station right by the stadium and there are a lot of dodgy people there and i was pick pocketed whilst attempting to board the train in a crowd.
The Police were not helpful at all and said that they would have no chance of ever finding the perps.
Keep everything close by and out of sight
Yes it's rife on the trains and metro, we go often to visit daughter, always wallet and phone in front jeans pockets. Three trips ago I mistakenly left wallet in back jeans pocket and getting on metro at Gare Du Nord someone started to pick it, but I noticed and knocked their hand down and picked it up off the floor, shouted f*ck off and pushed him away. Everyone was watching and I stared at him to the next stop, but he just shrugged and got off. Police only useful for crime number for insurance. To be fair, pretty bad in London too!
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How’s everyone getting there? Flights and Eurostar look pricey for this one.
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Booked flight to Paris from Luton after getting home from Bruges game, just after UEFA announced it would be played on the Wednesday.
Snapped up the Tuesday night out, Thursday morning return for £110. It's ridiculously more expensive than that now. 🫤
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How’s everyone getting there? Flights and Eurostar look pricey for this one.
Eurostar went up quite a bit overnight Wednesday, my sone was on the last train back to Euston and said there was loads on there booking them straight away. I can really only afford to take two half days, so looking at early Eurostar out and 1st one back is £338. Which given I might have to pay through the nose for a ticket has got me considering is it worth it. But then it is probably the only chance I have of seeing Villa abroad in the Champions League! So it probably is!! I'm considering driving and getting Eurotunnel - £130 for a car on a "day trip" - which lasts 2 days.
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How’s everyone getting there? Flights and Eurostar look pricey for this one.
Skyscanner are still finding connections to Paris from Brum at decent prices.
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So these classless entitled ****** have asked Ligue 1 to postpone their match against Nantes that is scheduled in between two legs.
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So these classless entitled ****** have asked Ligue 1 to postpone their match against Nantes that is scheduled in between two legs.
Of course they have, and it will be allowed! It's the Premier league that won't help it's team in Europe.
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And FC Nantes have asked that the game goes ahead.
I like Nantes, nice city. And now they've gone up in my estimation.
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They're in a relegation battle and so are all their opponents after the Villa-PSG game. Why should they put themselves at a disadvantage and lessen their chances of staying up to help the Qatari government?
UEFA really need to step in and stop these farcical postponement requests.
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How’s everyone getting there? Flights and Eurostar look pricey for this one.
Coach and Ferry for me with Premier Travel (Steve Gough) sleeping on the coach isn't for everyone but I've got it down to fine art now by travelling in Tracksuit bottoms, bringing a blanket, eye mask and a change of clothes for the day! ( I need sleep)
The beauty of Premier Travel is that the coach will be right outside the away end after the match.
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Euro Star
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I do like Paris .
I don’t like the look of those ultras though!
I do like the look of Kvaratskhelia he is going to give either of our full backs a torrid time unfortunately.
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Heathrow to Orly was the best value I saw.
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
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Paris is such a great city. First went there in 2012, stayed 4 nights. Went again in 2013, stayed 5 nights. Then 2015, 6 nights.
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Paris Villans will look forward to welcoming you (and relieving you of your wallets, natch).
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All booked.
Paris on the Sunday evening via Lufthansa
Cheap and cheerful B&B $97 PP/PN
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
Couple of decent Irish pubs, that's about it.
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And FC Nantes have asked that the game goes ahead.
I like Nantes, nice city. And now they've gone up in my estimation.
And FC Nantes have asked that the game goes ahead.
I like Nantes, nice city. And now they've gone up in my estimation.
Think they've won the League 7 times too.
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
Couple of decent Irish pubs, that's about it.
I went abroad once. Didn't like it.
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This season PSG are unbeaten in the league home or away after 25 games
In 95 matches Enrique has been in charge PSG have lost totally of 11 in all comps. 6 at home and 5 away
The 6 at home include 4 champions league matches
2 this season and 2 last season
0-1 Liverpool
1-2 Atleti Madrid
23/24
0-1 Dortmund
2-3 Barcelona
2 other home defeats were also in 23/24
Toulouse 1-3 straight after losing first semi 0-1 Dortmund (h)
Nice 2-3
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
Couple of decent Irish pubs, that's about it.
The one in Texas is better.
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Paris is a wonderful city.
Not the most controversial of opinions, I know, but hey ho.
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Haven't been to Paris before, but I've been to France 3 times.
They speak French. Little insider tip for you.
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I lived in Paris for 10 years so am gutted to be missing this one. We hold a conference every year in Vietnam so we booked the dates about 9 months ago and booked our flights in January. I’m actually missing both legs as I’ll be away for about 16 days. Tant pis.
I’ve been to the Parc des Princes about 20-25 times for PSG and international games and absolutely love it. They used to have the Boulogne kop ultras (right wing LePen types) there and then a more mixed group at the Auteuil end. They didn’t get on and would occasionally fight each other after games. I’d sometimes take mates over from England and a number of fans would have English club scarves - even saw a Villa scarf once. A fan died about 15 years ago and the club basically banned the groups for a few years.
My understanding is that the main ultras are now in the Auteuil end but mates tell me they have several fan groups a La Peoples Front of Judea. Away fans used to be housed in a corner by the Auteuil end but that has probably changed now if their main ultras are behind that goal.
It may be a good thing I’m not going as I’ve seen England lose to France and Brazil, though we did win “Le Tournois” as well as Celtic lose to PSG ( they had an official section and an overspill section of about 4k each) and Arsenal v Zaragoza (Nayim from the half way line).
It’s a simple journey by metro from central Paris by metro but bars near the ground will be mobbed. But it’s easy to drink in Paris till 2am and there are a number of bars open later.
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
Couple of decent Irish pubs, that's about it.
I went abroad once. Didn't like it.
Wales?
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Eurostar for me. Tuesday - Friday as never been to Paris before. Anything to do there ?
Haha love it.
Assuming you are serious IMO the greatest city in the world. My tip would be when you get there ditch the Metro (despite Pat McM’s info) and walk every where. It’s like an urban Safari of history and architecture. There is something to see and admire on almost every street corner. On match day take a walk from Arc de triomphe along Avenue Foch toward Bois de Boulogne. Enter the wood and turn left basically carry on till you see the concrete monstrosity. It’s about an hour or so. Eurostar is class. Best of luck and I may run into you both if I see you😊
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This season PSG are unbeaten in the league home or away after 25 games
In 95 matches Enrique has been in charge PSG have lost totally of 11 in all comps. 6 at home and 5 away
The 6 at home include 4 champions league matches
2 this season and 2 last season
0-1 Liverpool
1-2 Atleti Madrid
23/24
0-1 Dortmund
2-3 Barcelona
2 other home defeats were also in 23/24
Toulouse 1-3 straight after losing first semi 0-1 Dortmund (h)
Nice 2-3
So basically they are impressionnant at home till someone decent turns up and then they lose?
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I visited Paris last year for the first time as I thought I would dislike it. It’s wonderful and I loved it.
Any idea what time the Metro finishes at night?
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Paris is a wonderful city.
Not the most controversial of opinions, I know, but hey ho.
I’m imagining the PSG mirror of this thread.
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Went three years ago to watch PSG v Marseille. Great city, grounds a dump
and rather moody around there. If it’s of interest you can get single tickets in the home end on their secondary market site, link on psg website, for €265. Pairs start from €550 odd though.
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Central Paris is nice . Some of the suburbs not so much .
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I visited Paris last year for the first time as I thought I would dislike it. It’s wonderful and I loved it.
Any idea what time the Metro finishes at night?
Last arrival at terminus is about 1:30 am, so depending on the line, the last departure from the originating station will be around 12:30 am.
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Went three years ago to watch PSG v Marseille. Great city, grounds a dump
and rather moody around there. If it’s of interest you can get single tickets in the home end on their secondary market site, link on psg website, for €265. Pairs start from €550 odd though.
It was, been spruced up though.
Last time I saw PSG was in the week it was bought by the Qataris (so, a long time ago). Pitched up half an hour before kick off, got a ticket from the ticket office for a tenner and watched them beat St Etienne in a half full dump of a stadium. Times have changed.
Last went in this past summer to see a women’s Olympic quarter final. Granted, had great seats just above the dugouts in connection with work, but the Parc was looking magnificent (despite there being nil atmosphere for that particular game).
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I lived in Paris for a couple of years back in the day. It's manky, miserable, the Metro stinks, the architecture all looks the same, and the locals are po-faced twats.
London's much better.
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Went three years ago to watch PSG v Marseille. Great city, grounds a dump
and rather moody around there. If it’s of interest you can get single tickets in the home end on their secondary market site, link on psg website, for €265. Pairs start from €550 odd though.
Yeah, reckon these are going to be the only seats that will come available to the general public. I understand STH can purchase up to 2 seats per ST, and given there are 37k STH, that will easily mop up the difference between the number of STH and ground capacity.
Was keeping an eye on the site yesterday and you could see all the STH piling in. By the evening, many of those tickets were available on the ticket exchange site. For some STH then, it’s a way of lowering their ST cost over the year.
However, the resale site is an “bourse” type affair, so the price is set freely by the vendor and will fluctuate with demand. Between yesterday and today, the starting price went from 350e to about 220e this morning. Might be worth waiting a few days to see how that stabilises. Have mentally factored in a price of 200e that I could swallow. Any more than that and the fam are saying that the best option is to take them away to a 5-star hotel spa and buy a very large TV… :)
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Also, mate of mine popped down the ticket office on the off chance. They weren’t selling any tickets for the Villa game but, surprisingly, they were selling tickets for this Sunday’s classico, even though there are none available online.
So, that might be an option in the 2 or 3 days leading up to the game.
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I lived in Paris for a couple of years back in the day. It's manky, miserable, the Metro stinks, the architecture all looks the same, and the locals are po-faced twats.
London's much better.
Difference between living in and visiting.
Like any big city, it’s nice if the city’s treating you right. If it’s not, it ain’t. ;)
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Vienna is everything Paris wishes it was.
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I visited Paris last year for the first time as I thought I would dislike it. It’s wonderful and I loved it.
Any idea what time the Metro finishes at night?
Last arrival at terminus is about 1:30 am, so depending on the line, the last departure from the originating station will be around 12:30 am.
Much obliged
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Looking forward to this one but already nervous for the game. Going on the Eurostar and staying in the Montmartre area.
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Central Paris is nice . Some of the suburbs not so much .
There probably isn't a major city in the world where this isn't true.
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got family just outside Paris , thats a lovely village, so I visit alot .
Like people said just been on alert , have your wits about you at all times ( especially merry) and the station is bloody horrible with scum , hate going there with my elderly parents , always on edge looking out for them.
just be careful and enjoy the experience of it all , the tourist areas are of course bloody expensive.
So glad its Paris and not Liver who.
p.s I did get mugged in the day once .
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I lived in Paris for a couple of years back in the day. It's manky, miserable, the Metro stinks, the architecture all looks the same, and the locals are po-faced twats.
London's much better.
Agreed. We (me and the missus) didn’t like it much.
London IS much better. New York better still.
Birmingham’s the only one I could write a couple of books about. I’m so lucky to live here.
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Paris is ace.
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Went three years ago to watch PSG v Marseille. Great city, grounds a dump
and rather moody around there. If it’s of interest you can get single tickets in the home end on their secondary market site, link on psg website, for €265. Pairs start from €550 odd though.
Yeah, reckon these are going to be the only seats that will come available to the general public. I understand STH can purchase up to 2 seats per ST, and given there are 37k STH, that will easily mop up the difference between the number of STH and ground capacity.
Was keeping an eye on the site yesterday and you could see all the STH piling in. By the evening, many of those tickets were available on the ticket exchange site. For some STH then, it’s a way of lowering their ST cost over the year.
However, the resale site is an “bourse” type affair, so the price is set freely by the vendor and will fluctuate with demand. Between yesterday and today, the starting price went from 350e to about 220e this morning. Might be worth waiting a few days to see how that stabilises. Have mentally factored in a price of 200e that I could swallow. Any more than that and the fam are saying that the best option is to take them away to a 5-star hotel spa and buy a very large TV… :)
If it is anything like Bruges the price will go down as the game approaches. There is quite a large fee though of 45 euros - not sure if that is per ticket or per transaction.
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Went three years ago to watch PSG v Marseille. Great city, grounds a dump
and rather moody around there. If it’s of interest you can get single tickets in the home end on their secondary market site, link on psg website, for €265. Pairs start from €550 odd though.
Yeah, reckon these are going to be the only seats that will come available to the general public. I understand STH can purchase up to 2 seats per ST, and given there are 37k STH, that will easily mop up the difference between the number of STH and ground capacity.
Was keeping an eye on the site yesterday and you could see all the STH piling in. By the evening, many of those tickets were available on the ticket exchange site. For some STH then, it’s a way of lowering their ST cost over the year.
However, the resale site is an “bourse” type affair, so the price is set freely by the vendor and will fluctuate with demand. Between yesterday and today, the starting price went from 350e to about 220e this morning. Might be worth waiting a few days to see how that stabilises. Have mentally factored in a price of 200e that I could swallow. Any more than that and the fam are saying that the best option is to take them away to a 5-star hotel spa and buy a very large TV… :)
If it is anything like Bruges the price will go down as the game approaches. There is quite a large fee though of 45 euros - not sure if that is per ticket or per transaction.
My feeling too, Jon. Though I noticed today that some of the cheaper ones - around 210e, 220e - seem to have gone (or the vendors put the price up, considering they were too cheap).
Fee seems to be per ticket.
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Me & Amfy are on the Eurostar with a hotel 10 mins from the stadium. Can't wait.
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Is there a section that wept should be trying to buy?
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Looking forward to this one but already nervous for the game. Going on the Eurostar and staying in the Montmartre area.
Nice, very handy for Pigalle. A leisurely walk up and down Boulevard de Clichy would be worthwhile🙈
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Me & Amfy are on the Eurostar with a hotel 10 mins from the stadium. Can't wait.
I bet they can't.
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Maybe someone here could confirm, but I think the Villa fans will be in nord est 101 and 102. So am thinking 103 or 104 (category 10) keeps you near enough - not exactly sure of the geography mind, it could be above the Villa fans.
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Me & Amfy are on the Eurostar with a hotel 10 mins from the stadium. Can't wait.
I bet they can't.
Knew that was coming!
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Paris is ace.
It really is. I absolutely loved my time there.
The metro (aka the poo tube) does smell but the city itself, within the ring road* is lovely. Some of the suburbs are very rough though.
* the ring road actually goes under the parc des Princes
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Really like the areas between Bastille and Gare Du Lyon , some great bars and restaurant / cafes around here and the food is fabulous. It's a great city .
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So we are in the 1/4finals up agains PSG and with the prospect of possibility facing RM in the semifinals and Barca in the final. This woudnt be belived if someone told this before Emery arrived. It is the wildest dream from a couple of years back coming through. Given such perspectives this is an incredible place to be. Whatever happens from here this acihvement stands as something not happened since 82? and together with else happening at the club gives bright prospects for future. Digne / Ramsey adventuring down the left .. and it must be , it is Watkins ..
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What are PSG saying about us? Dismissive or wary?
Tuned into L’Equipe.tv yesterday, chat show affair with Djibril Cissé and a few pundits.
Definitely dismissive is the answer. Their recollections of us are mostly from the Lille away game last year, where we were considered fortunate against a plucky team (fair enough, really), plus Emery/Asensio subplots. They don’t seem to know us well. Cissé couldn’t remember if he’d scored at Villa Park (answer: yes, twice). He did pay tribute to the atmosphere at Villa Park, but suggested it would be easier to handle than Anfield.
I wouldn’t quite go as far as to say they view us in the same way as we currently look at PNE (there’s a lesson in there), but it’s not a million miles away. PSG have a bit of the old City image about them, as in a propensity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. So there’s a bit of talk along the lines of, wouldn’t it be typical of PSG to have done the hard work (Liverpool) and then make a mess of it against lowly Aston Villa.
Usual caveats about being wary of dark horses, etc., but that didn’t mask the overall feeling of superiority.
Viewpoint confirmed in chats out and about. The common refrain is, “but have you seen our team?”
It seems to escape them that only one of the two teams has previously held the ultimate trophy aloft.
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Have ST holders had any issues buying their own seats for this? I'm a member and the website is telling me it is sold out. This is in contrast to Brugge where I could go in and view seat availability prior to my window opening.
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Their match vs Nantes has in effect been postponed, according to the Nantes coach.
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Have ST holders had any issues buying their own seats for this? I'm a member and the website is telling me it is sold out. This is in contrast to Brugge where I could go in and view seat availability prior to my window opening.
Just check if you are actually logged in? This happens both on website or App. I found the same but then clicked on login symbol and went through "alerts", they had no issue in taking about £150 off me :'(
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Their match vs Nantes has in effect been postponed, according to the Nantes coach.
If it is that way it makes me want to beat them even more. About time UEFA fixed this to maintain integrity of the overall competition. English, Spanish and German Leagues do not give a free pass to their clubs in and around European games.
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Think it is pretty pathetic of PSG, they e won the League anyway and could have played reserves v Nantes.
Hopefully Marseille kick lumps out of them tonight.
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Have ST holders had any issues buying their own seats for this? I'm a member and the website is telling me it is sold out. This is in contrast to Brugge where I could go in and view seat availability prior to my window opening.
Just check if you are actually logged in? This happens both on website or App. I found the same but then clicked on login symbol and went through "alerts", they had no issue in taking about £150 off me :'(
Definitely logged in. Hopefully it will be sorted by next week.
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Our league game between the PSG games is Southampton so it's like a weekend off.
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What are PSG saying about us? Dismissive or wary?
Tuned into L’Equipe.tv yesterday, chat show affair with Djibril Cissé and a few pundits.
Definitely dismissive is the answer. Their recollections of us are mostly from the Lille away game last year, where we were considered fortunate against a plucky team (fair enough, really), plus Emery/Asensio subplots. They don’t seem to know us well. Cissé couldn’t remember if he’d scored at Villa Park (answer: yes, twice). He did pay tribute to the atmosphere at Villa Park, but suggested it would be easier to handle than Anfield.
I wouldn’t quite go as far as to say they view us in the same way as we currently look at PNE (there’s a lesson in there), but it’s not a million miles away. PSG have a bit of the old City image about them, as in a propensity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. So there’s a bit of talk along the lines of, wouldn’t it be typical of PSG to have done the hard work (Liverpool) and then make a mess of it against lowly Aston Villa.
Usual caveats about being wary of dark horses, etc., but that didn’t mask the overall feeling of superiority.
Viewpoint confirmed in chats out and about. The common refrain is, “but have you seen our team?”
It seems to escape them that only one of the two teams has previously held the ultimate trophy aloft.
Great insight eye digress.
Where do you live in Paris?
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Intra-muros Pat, so all goodness and light!
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Talking of subplots, had forgotten Digne also played at PSG earlier in his career.
I also noticed in the press that there is little appreciation of Kamara - which might just be a reflection of the abundance of midfield talent France has, but still, was slightly surprised he wasn't really on the pundits' radar (then again, maybe that's the case in the Premier League too...).
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Thanks for the insight ED.
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Our league game between the PSG games is Southampton so it's like a weekend off.
Not sure . Don't think we've battered anyone this season , did we beat them at home or was that another draw .
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Won 1-0
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It was one-nil played in near hurricane conditions.
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Talking of subplots, had forgotten Digne also played at PSG earlier in his career.
I also noticed in the press that there is little appreciation of Kamara - which might just be a reflection of the abundance of midfield talent France has, but still, was slightly surprised he wasn't really on the pundits' radar (then again, maybe that's the case in the Premier League too...).
As well as Emery managing them and Digne being a former player, Disasi was born in Paris and Kamara will probably get a nice reception having captained their rivals, Marseille.
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Talking of subplots, had forgotten Digne also played at PSG earlier in his career.
I also noticed in the press that there is little appreciation of Kamara - which might just be a reflection of the abundance of midfield talent France has, but still, was slightly surprised he wasn't really on the pundits' radar (then again, maybe that's the case in the Premier League too...).
As well as Emery managing them and Digne being a former player, Disasi was born in Paris and Kamara will probably get a nice reception having captained their rivals, Marseille.
Our keeper is also very highly thought of in France .
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Our league game between the PSG games is Southampton so it's like a weekend off.
Exactly. Let them do what they want who cares. W e can play garcia and malen vs saints rest a few and probably still win
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I wouldn't count on it, it's that sort of complacency that gets you beaten in the Premier League.
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I wouldn't count on it, it's that sort of complacency that gets you beaten in the Premier League.
Of we lose to Southampton we dont deserve CL mate. They are one of the worst teams in premier league history. Look at their point total
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
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That's great. Hope you have a brilliant time.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
That’s pretty tremendous. Your son is clearly a legend.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Incredible. I hope my boy is that thoughtful when he’s older. Enjoy every minute, I hope we get a result for you.
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That's fantastic, I hope you all have a great time.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Happy for you mate. Well done Dorset junior!
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Beautiful
Only thing that can make that perfect is a positive result
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Happy for you mate. Well done Dorset junior!
Yes, what a great gift and what a son for organising.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Lovely stuff.
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That's wonderful DV. Memories for a lifetime and hopefully a good result.
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Thanks for the kind words. It's amazing he doesn't hold it against me taking him up to the Villa from the south coast since he was 4 years old. His last game before leaving to go travelling was the Bayern Munich game so at least he got to see one Champions League game ..
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You've clearly done a good job as a parent, dorsetvillain!
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He was born in 98 on the night we beat Celtic Viga away so is called Joachim after the goal scorer for Villa that night..
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And an understanding wife!
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Makes me sad that my daughter was born a month after we beat Liverpool 7-2.
Although Ollie Watkins would be an odd name for a girl.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
I've got some dust in my eye reading this, dammit! An amazing and truly uplifting story. Your son is clearly a remarkable young man, you must be (rightly) very proud of him. UTV
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Marvellous. I don't have a son but I was thinking the other day if I had one what would he do for me? Well this is one thing I would love. Well done to your boy dv.
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Makes me sad that my daughter was born a month after we beat Liverpool 7-2.
Although Ollie Watkins would be an odd name for a girl.
Olivia?
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He was born in 98 on the night we beat Celtic Viga away so is called Joachim after the goal scorer for Villa that night..
Great to read.
Big up to the Bournemouth Lions, several of whom I met on the train heading to Wembley in 2010, when I was living in Brighton.
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What a great surprise dorset. Have a wonderful time.
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Makes me sad that my daughter was born a month after we beat Liverpool 7-2.
Although Ollie Watkins would be an odd name for a girl.
Olivia?
Was thinking Watkinetta.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
That is absolutely brilliant - good on you and your son too.
Wish I’d had kids now….
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
That is absolutely brilliant - good on you and your son too.
Wish I’d had kids now….
You can never tell though Pat. I had a few, and only the youngest two are bothered about going to the match. The rest of ‘em just wanted to sell the fanzine.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
Very nice to hear ! what a great gesture .
And thank you ever so much for sharing your experience!
It really is great news for you and you must have been so very happy to hear!
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To the surprised of nobody, PSG get their game against Nantes postponed so they'll be nice and rested. UEFA shouldn't allow this nonsense.
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To the surprised of nobody, PSG get their game against Nantes postponed so they'll be nice and rested. UEFA shouldn't allow this nonsense.
on what grounds is it postponed ?
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PSG asked, and they play in a poxy league that only plays 34 games so it was feasible to agree. I don't really blame them or the French League. UEFA need to intervene to ensure fairness.
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
That is absolutely brilliant - good on you and your son too.
Wish I’d had kids now….
You can never tell though Pat. I had a few, and only the youngest two are bothered about going to the match. The rest of ‘em just wanted to sell the fanzine.
Two’s not bad though - that’s double your own support!
In my defence I hauled my nephew and niece down Villa Park as soon as they were old enough and until recently my nephew still questioned why I chained him to the Villa radiator. He’s had a season ticket with his dad for about 25 years now, so I suppose I’ve added two Villa fans as well.
All square!
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They seem a nice bunch...
Marseille condemn 'personal attacks' on Rabiot at PSG - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cr52p4vqe33o
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I didn't think I would be going to PSG away as I lost my job after Xmas and couldn't justify another European trip. My lad who is also Villa mad is living in Melbourne at the moment and messaged me on Sunday asking about the trip. I told him unfirtunately I wasn't going. A minute later he sent hotel and travel details for Paris and explained that he had secretly arranged with mates of mine from the Bournemouth Lions to pay for the trip on my behalf. I was a little emotional at such an amazing gesture...
That is absolutely brilliant - good on you and your son too.
Wish I’d had kids now….
You can never tell though Pat. I had a few, and only the youngest two are bothered about going to the match. The rest of ‘em just wanted to sell the fanzine.
Two’s not bad though - that’s double your own support!
In my defence I hauled my nephew and niece down Villa Park as soon as they were old enough and until recently my nephew still questioned why I chained him to the Villa radiator. He’s had a season ticket with his dad for about 25 years now, so I suppose I’ve added two Villa fans as well.
All square!
An honourable draw.
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To the surprised of nobody, PSG get their game against Nantes postponed so they'll be nice and rested. UEFA shouldn't allow this nonsense.
The same happened, I think with Lille, in last year's euro conference league. I mean, good on the French footy bosses for allowing it, playing a league game 3 or 4 days before a Champs League qtr final is very weird. I know the French league has fewer games, but the advantage of not playing that weekend before is massive for PSG. It's pretty unfair, not a level playing field as they say.
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And it didn’t do Lille any good as we knocked the fuckers out.
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Well, it did. As they were much better than us in the second leg. Thankfully the first leg performance, a fairly jammy goal and Martinez's heroics were enough to see us through.
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UEFA shouldn’t step in. This is a matter for the French league. We’d love to have that flexibility. And besides, it just adds congestion to their season end, when they might be in the semis or final.
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Yup. The fewer opportunities for UEFA to step in and say "actually guys, we want you to do it this way instead" the better.
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They didn't do it for either Liverpool game, they're shitting themselves about playing us.
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UEFA shouldn’t step in. This is a matter for the French league. We’d love to have that flexibility. And besides, it just adds congestion to their season end, when they might be in the semis or final.
It's a UEFA competition. It's unfair on Nantes and on Villa, as well as supporters who had bought tickets for weekend games.
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UEFA shouldn’t step in. This is a matter for the French league. We’d love to have that flexibility. And besides, it just adds congestion to their season end, when they might be in the semis or final.
It's a UEFA competition. It's unfair on Nantes and on Villa, as well as supporters who had bought tickets for weekend games.
All those things can be true and it’s still not a matter for UEFA. Their jurisdiction ends (and should end) at the scheduling for their competition, not a domestic one.
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We're being noticed at large for the first time since the Internet existed:
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Looked at Hospitality, eye wateringly expensive but you get Le Havre game chucked in too.
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Away leg ticket details are out.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/18/PSG-ticket-details-first-leg/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/18/PSG-ticket-details-first-leg/)
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For those that went to Bruges, check your booking history. Not showing for me or loads of others. I wonder if they are waiting for the data from Bruges on who scanned in and who didn't?
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We have Southampton we should be able to hopefully win that without killing ourselves wven with PSG rest.
I hope ut backfires on them spectacularly
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For those that went to Bruges, check your booking history. Not showing for me or loads of others. I wonder if they are waiting for the data from Bruges on who scanned in and who didn't?
Never ever thought to do that before. But mine and the wife's is showing all okay.
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Like wozwebs mine isn’t showing. Looks like another tedious call to the Ticket Office in the morning.
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Well, it did. As they were much better than us in the second leg. Thankfully the first leg performance, a fairly jammy goal and Martinez's heroics were enough to see us through.
I'm not having that Matty Cash screamer dismissed out of hand like that
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For those that went to Bruges, check your booking history. Not showing for me or loads of others. I wonder if they are waiting for the data from Bruges on who scanned in and who didn't?
Mine’s not showing either.
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
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Lavilla - Were you in the GA+ section or standard?
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Is anyone else planning this head out there without a ticket?
That's my plan currently - hoping to luck out for one, with the assumption there'll be loads of Villa around in the same boat who'll be watching together somewhere nearby if ticketless...? Nice break in Paris either way
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
I wouldnt sit there even if the ticket was £100. I cant enjoy it, if villa were to win 2-0 in paris how the hell could you not celebrate that?! Then im sure you would get a beating from some ultras for the joy of celebrating
Would much prefer to watch at VP on screens with fellow villa fans if that was a option
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Lavilla - Were you in the GA+ section or standard?
Standard.
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Like wozwebs mine isn’t showing. Looks like another tedious call to the Ticket Office in the morning.
Mine isn't either, but I contacted AVFC support through twitter and they confirmed it's in my history even though I can't see it.
Still nervous about it until I have that PSG ticket locked in mind!
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Like wozwebs mine isn’t showing. Looks like another tedious call to the Ticket Office in the morning.
Mine isn't either, but I contacted AVFC support through twitter and they confirmed it's in my history even though I can't see it.
Still nervous about it until I have that PSG ticket locked in mind!
Thanks Nii.
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Like wozwebs mine isn’t showing. Looks like another tedious call to the Ticket Office in the morning.
Mine isn't either, but I contacted AVFC support through twitter and they confirmed it's in my history even though I can't see it.
Still nervous about it until I have that PSG ticket locked in mind!
Thanks Nii.
Just noticed my Young Boys ticket isn’t showing on the history tab either - but then none of the games from August & September are.
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Just had a quick look at the home game situation. There appear to be just 3 GA+ tickets left. I presume more might appear as they work through the various tiers.
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Is it already sold out?
I’ve only done 4 Champs’ League homes this season ( I got to 2 away games but that counts for nothing) and our slot is supposed to be at 9am tomorrow.
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Is anyone else planning this head out there without a ticket?
Yup, the chances of getting one when out there seem remote but you never know, someone might get nicked, ill, etc.
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
I wouldnt sit there even if the ticket was £100. I cant enjoy it, if villa were to win 2-0 in paris how the hell could you not celebrate that?! Then im sure you would get a beating from some ultras for the joy of celebrating
Would much prefer to watch at VP on screens with fellow villa fans if that was a option
I think there's quite a few touristy blocks on the sides of the stadium where you won't get beaten up by Ultras. I'm just waiting for someone to confirm where the away fans will be, looking at the PSG resale market would be around 300 euros currently.
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Is it already sold out?
I’ve only done 4 Champs’ League homes this season ( I got to 2 away games but that counts for nothing) and our slot is supposed to be at 9am tomorrow.
I doubt it very much re GA, but those over priced general admission plus seats have been on sale to people with a booking history so that's why they've almost gone.
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Thanks, are there any “normal” seats left though? If it’s only GA+ then I’d rather spend that money on going to Paris and chancing my luck in the home end again.
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It won't be sold out yet the season ticket holders had up until last night to buy there tickets. The club will make all those that have not sold available this morning ready for the next sales window
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
I wouldnt sit there even if the ticket was £100. I cant enjoy it, if villa were to win 2-0 in paris how the hell could you not celebrate that?! Then im sure you would get a beating from some ultras for the joy of celebrating
Would much prefer to watch at VP on screens with fellow villa fans if that was a option
I think there's quite a few touristy blocks on the sides of the stadium where you won't get beaten up by Ultras. I'm just waiting for someone to confirm where the away fans will be, looking at the PSG resale market would be around 300 euros currently.
I am inthe same boat, looking to try and sit with close to other Villa fans.
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Both Liverpool and city were allocated 2000 away tickets for their games - so we should get a similar anount
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Yes AVFC have announce 2000, but not which block they are in, so waiting for someone to buy on tomorrow and confirm, then I'll look at close by blocks on PSG site. My daughter is also on the look-out on the ground in Paris as she lives there.
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Thanks, are there any “normal” seats left though? If it’s only GA+ then I’d rather spend that money on going to Paris and chancing my luck in the home end again.
There are seats available but they don't seem to be visible to members yet. I assume/hope at 2 today it will sort itself out.
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Thanks, are there any “normal” seats left though? If it’s only GA+ then I’d rather spend that money on going to Paris and chancing my luck in the home end again.
There are seats available but they don't seem to be visible to members yet. I assume/hope at 2 today it will sort itself out.
Yeah, you log in before as a member, you just see GA+.
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
I wouldnt sit there even if the ticket was £100. I cant enjoy it, if villa were to win 2-0 in paris how the hell could you not celebrate that?! Then im sure you would get a beating from some ultras for the joy of celebrating
Would much prefer to watch at VP on screens with fellow villa fans if that was a option
I think there's quite a few touristy blocks on the sides of the stadium where you won't get beaten up by Ultras. I'm just waiting for someone to confirm where the away fans will be, looking at the PSG resale market would be around 300 euros currently.
I am inthe same boat, looking to try and sit with close to other Villa fans.
£200 currently on the PSG resale site (including the predictable fees)
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Thanks, are there any “normal” seats left though? If it’s only GA+ then I’d rather spend that money on going to Paris and chancing my luck in the home end again.
There are seats available but they don't seem to be visible to members yet. I assume/hope at 2 today it will sort itself out.
Yeah, you log in before as a member, you just see GA+.
There were only 3 GA+ available when I looked earlier. All individual seats, no pair.
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Thanks, are there any “normal” seats left though? If it’s only GA+ then I’d rather spend that money on going to Paris and chancing my luck in the home end again.
There are seats available but they don't seem to be visible to members yet. I assume/hope at 2 today it will sort itself out.
There are a lot less GA in the Lower Holte than this stage for Bruges, a bit more than half the amount I’d say comparing screenshots.
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This is the advice that Liverpool issued to their fans for the away leg.
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Site has crashed..?
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Direct return flights BHX to CDG: £680
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Is it already sold out?
I’ve only done 4 Champs’ League homes this season ( I got to 2 away games but that counts for nothing) and our slot is supposed to be at 9am tomorrow.
I doubt it very much re GA, but those over priced general admission plus seats have been on sale to people with a booking history so that's why they've almost gone.
Managed get mine pretty quick for a change. Looks like there are still a few scattered around.
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The usual shitshow with the website crashing, but got there in the end
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The usual shitshow with the website crashing, but got there in the end
Yep, same. Kept crashing but did it after many attempts.
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Website saying sold out second leg, am surprised so many members went to all 5 CL games.
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Correction, buy option has re appeared. It's a rubbish site.
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What a relief! Woke up at 2.55pm and my first waking thought was that I hadn’t reminded wifey about getting the tickets. Miraculously still got 3 together. Phew! The kids won’t hate me!
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Website saying sold out second leg, am surprised so many members went to all 5 CL games.
Yes, a bit strange as there were quite a few seats left at this selling window for the Bruges game. Much more difficult accessing the site and getting seats together for this game.
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Is it already sold out?
I’ve only done 4 Champs’ League homes this season ( I got to 2 away games but that counts for nothing) and our slot is supposed to be at 9am tomorrow.
I’m the same as you. Gates open at 9.30 according to OS. Could be a struggle as it was 5 home games then next tier is ours with 3/4 games.
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Correction, buy option has re appeared. It's a rubbish site.
It’s saying sold out.
My window isn’t until tomorrow morning because I missed the Bruges game as working abroad. Need to get up for 5.30am here so hoping some still available.
Actually attended 4 at home and 3 away in UCL so frustrating.
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It's not sold out. I've got mine but can still log in and there are plenty of singles, a few groups of three and some pairs left. depends where you want to sit mind.
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It's not sold out. I've got mine but can still log in and there are plenty of singles, a few groups of three and some pairs left. depends where you want to sit mind.
That would do for me! Maybe it’s because I don’t have the criteria yet I can’t see that?
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It's not sold out. I've got mine but can still log in and there are plenty of singles, a few groups of three and some pairs left. depends where you want to sit mind.
That would do for me! Maybe it’s because I don’t have the criteria yet I can’t see that?
Yep, that's it I'm sure. I couldn't' see it before my window opened.
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It's not sold out. I've got mine but can still log in and there are plenty of singles, a few groups of three and some pairs left. depends where you want to sit mind.
That would do for me! Maybe it’s because I don’t have the criteria yet I can’t see that?
Yep, that's it I'm sure. I couldn't' see it before my window opened.
Cheers! Up early tomorrow then!
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It's not sold out. I've got mine but can still log in and there are plenty of singles, a few groups of three and some pairs left. depends where you want to sit mind.
That would do for me! Maybe it’s because I don’t have the criteria yet I can’t see that?
Yep, that's it I'm sure. I couldn't' see it before my window opened.
Cheers! Up early tomorrow then!
9:30 for me as well tomorrow, I'm 3 and my son is 4 - we're in the same window this time, whereas he was a day earlier than me for the previous round.
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I just need 1 ticket when my window opens Friday, fingers crossed!
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If anyone gets a single in the lower Holte but would rather sit at the back of the North Stand, let me know and we can swap.
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Looked at Hospitality, eye wateringly expensive but you get Le Havre game chucked in too.
Plenty of singles available on Ticketplace - roughly 200e to 300e, excluding fees. Price has come down slightly.
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Sitting in the PSG home end looks out of the question. Feckin £300+ for a regular ticket.
I wouldnt sit there even if the ticket was £100. I cant enjoy it, if villa were to win 2-0 in paris how the hell could you not celebrate that?! Then im sure you would get a beating from some ultras for the joy of celebrating
Would much prefer to watch at VP on screens with fellow villa fans if that was a option
I think there's quite a few touristy blocks on the sides of the stadium where you won't get beaten up by Ultras. I'm just waiting for someone to confirm where the away fans will be, looking at the PSG resale market would be around 300 euros currently.
I am inthe same boat, looking to try and sit with close to other Villa fans.
I think the Liverpool fans were in Block 301 for their match there.
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As I said earlier, believe it is Nord Est 103 and 104. At least, that is the standard away pen - maybe different in CL…
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As I said earlier, believe it is Nord Est 103 and 104. At least, that is the standard away pen - maybe different in CL…
Judging by rjp’s post earlier in the thread looks like it’s the south east corner for the CL.
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As I said earlier, believe it is Nord Est 103 and 104. At least, that is the standard away pen - maybe different in CL…
Judging by rjp’s post earlier in the thread looks like it’s the south east corner for the CL.
It is that’s the section not being sold on the resale site.
I’m holding my nerve at the moment and hoping there might be a further drop!
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Boom!! Ticket purchased for the home leg.
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Keeps crashing on me
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Got a couple of tickets but was a pain not letting me assign tickets to the family. Had to book tickets singularly in two areas.
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I just refreshed a few times once the seat had been selected.
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Keeps crashing on me
Same here v stressful.
had one in basket it crashed. took ten minutes to get back in and then found ticket was still in my basket.
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Got one
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I didn’t look to see how many were left throughout the ground but there were only around 5 in K3.
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That was fucking hard work. Ended up with 3 restricted view tickets in the Trinity.
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That was hard work, managed to get 3 together near the back of the North Stand.
They don't make it easy for us do they, kept crashing, not sure if payment is taken, got the confirmation email now though !!
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I got A7 and my son got K3 - I actually had two together in A7, but it wouldn't let me buy his - unbeknown to me he had the K3 in the basket!
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What's it going to be like for the Real Madrid game?!!
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Looks like pretty much sold out now, was hoping to pick up an extra in the family zone in the morning, all there is now us stuff in and out of baskets as you need to have a kid/adult etc.
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I just need 1 ticket when my window opens Friday, fingers crossed!
I'm in the same boat of you having only been to 2 CL games, but it looks like it's completely sold out now, or at least it's listed as sold out. Always knew it was gonna be a long shot
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https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lfp-release-statement-psg-granted-31240632?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=communities
This is total shitty engineering of the lowest order. We won't get our game away to Southampton moved and nor should we. You play your normal schedule
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As I said earlier, believe it is Nord Est 103 and 104. At least, that is the standard away pen - maybe different in CL…
Judging by rjp’s post earlier in the thread looks like it’s the south east corner for the CL.
It is that’s the section not being sold on the resale site.
I’m holding my nerve at the moment and hoping there might be a further drop!
We have 301 & 302 in Upper & 101 & 102 in Lower - plus the cat 1 section which looks like it’s 103.
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We should be flattered that the French FA did it for us and didn't move the Rennes game between the Liverpool match legs. Obviously they need all the help they can get against us, even though PSG have won the French League so could have played second string. It is also bunching up their fixtures IF they do fluke it passed us for the Semi Final.
Of course their reasoning falls apart (coefficients) when they also didn't move the Lyon match. Didn't the same happen with Lille last season? Maybe all of France is scared of playing Villa in knockout stages for some reason.
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Have we ever played a competitive match in Paris before
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We should be flattered that the French FA did it for us and didn't move the Rennes game between the Liverpool match legs. Obviously they need all the help they can get against us, even though PSG have won the French League so could have played second string. It is also bunching up their fixtures IF they do fluke it passed us for the Semi Final.
Of course their reasoning falls apart (coefficients) when they also didn't move the Lyon match. Didn't the same happen with Lille last season? Maybe all of France is scared of playing Villa in knockout stages for some reason.
Total bollocks. About time UEFA sorted this sort of crap that undermines the integrity of the competition.
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Total bollocks. About time UEFA sorted this sort of crap that undermines the integrity of the competition.
You don't think it might cause a few issues if UEFA decided that they, and not national associations were going to put themselves in charge of fixture scheduling?
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I see David Platts back. I haven't bothered listening to him but I'll post this in the Champions League thread as it'll be the only reason he's chosen to finally acknowledge the club that made him.
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I see David Platts back. I haven't bothered listening to him but I'll post this in the Champions League thread as it'll be the only reason he's chosen to finally acknowledge the club that made him.
I had that exact thought when I saw a bit of the interview.
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I see David Platts back. I haven't bothered listening to him but I'll post this in the Champions League thread as it'll be the only reason he's chosen to finally acknowledge the club that made him.
I had that exact thought when I saw a bit of the interview.
Just listened to it, and is an excellent interview. He holds Villa and Sampdoria as his most special times in football.
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I see David Platts back. I haven't bothered listening to him but I'll post this in the Champions League thread as it'll be the only reason he's chosen to finally acknowledge the club that made him.
I had that exact thought when I saw a bit of the interview.
Just listened to it, and is an excellent interview. He holds Villa and Sampdoria as his most special times in football.
Nice of him to remember.
Will give it a listen though.
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I see David Platts back. I haven't bothered listening to him but I'll post this in the Champions League thread as it'll be the only reason he's chosen to finally acknowledge the club that made him.
I had that exact thought when I saw a bit of the interview.
Just listened to it, and is an excellent interview. He holds Villa and Sampdoria as his most special times in football.
Nice of him to remember.
Will give it a listen though.
I know what you mean, but it changed my opinion of him.
Alan McInally was very complimentary of him.
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Only took him 35 years
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When he came back to Arsenal he tried to milk Villa receptions but there was a lot of hostility to him.
I remember him being in a box at the clock end and trying to wave to Villa supporters who then gave him abuse. He was shaking his head back.
Similarly in his first game back at Villa Park he tried to applaud the Holte End and got abuse.
I’ve always figured he went shy after that.
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“We went to White Hart Lane with a game in hand over Liverpool – there wasn’t that many games left – and we beat Tottenham 2-0 to go five points clear on level games with Liverpool,” he recalled of narrowly missing out on the title.
“It was almost as if we weren’t chasing anymore. I don’t think we in the dressing room had the mentality needed to go on and win the league. With a bit of mentality we would have done.
“We were five points clear, we were flying and playing well and all of a sudden you hit the rails and you lose a few games.”
Hmm, didn't he miss a penalty against Wimbledon in the very next game which we went on to lose 3-0?
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Copying this from the tickets & travel / psg away thread,
I think there may be a few g/rumblings about this if true.
My concern expressed before is it going further down the windows in the GA+ tranche meaning it’s easier to build up the history. If it as a substantial number of the 2,000 tickets kept for a club run £1600 trip, it does leave an unpleasant taste, I know much more deserving cases than me left without.
3 blocks gone to corporate / GA+ etc. folk I think estimating 600.
And to think I dreamed I had a chance on one away, folk with 3 and 2 not getting.
A freedom of info to see the actual number would be interesting.
That number might be wrong, but supposition here https://x.com/SusansDan/status/1902762814248305110?t=7H5TB9EscmATca21Vy2QSw&s=08
And as Mr Sali, Salifou pointed out to me
Replies off is telling
https://x.com/avfcsupport/status/1902769746174509506?s=46&t=s-_K0P9IhJsAkzhr_Rkx6Q
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“We went to White Hart Lane with a game in hand over Liverpool – there wasn’t that many games left – and we beat Tottenham 2-0 to go five points clear on level games with Liverpool,” he recalled of narrowly missing out on the title.
“It was almost as if we weren’t chasing anymore. I don’t think we in the dressing room had the mentality needed to go on and win the league. With a bit of mentality we would have done.
“We were five points clear, we were flying and playing well and all of a sudden you hit the rails and you lose a few games.”
Hmm, didn't he miss a penalty against Wimbledon in the very next game which we went on to lose 3-0?
Yea and I’m pretty sure we had two games in hand over Liverpool and won the first to go two points clear after a superb performance at Spurs. Then missed the chance to go 5 points clear against Wimbledon.
The missed penalty was the biggest turning point in my Villa supporting life probably closely followed by not beating C*v on the same day as the fergie time win over Sheff wed.
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Copying this from the tickets & travel / psg away thread,
I think there may be a few g/rumblings about this if true.
My concern expressed before is it going further down the windows in the GA+ tranche meaning it’s easier to build up the history. If it as a substantial number of the 2,000 tickets kept for a club run £1600 trip, it does leave an unpleasant taste, I know much more deserving cases than me left without.
3 blocks gone to corporate / GA+ etc. folk I think estimating 600.
And to think I dreamed I had a chance on one away, folk with 3 and 2 not getting.
A freedom of info to see the actual number would be interesting.
That number might be wrong, but supposition here https://x.com/SusansDan/status/1902762814248305110?t=7H5TB9EscmATca21Vy2QSw&s=08
And as Mr Sali, Salifou pointed out to me
Replies off is telling
https://x.com/avfcsupport/status/1902769746174509506?s=46&t=s-_K0P9IhJsAkzhr_Rkx6Q
I don’t suppose we’ll ever know but 600 tickets at £1600 a pop is nigh on a £1m. You can see Mr Heck’s reasoning even if I think he’s an utter ****** for doing it.
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Where does the 600 figure come from? I would think it’s more like 200, which is the number of category 1 tickets the away club gets. I can’t imagine they’d fit another 600 on the club flight either.
For the home leg UEFA and its partners are entitled to about 1,900 tickets at this stage of the competition, and even more for the semis, which helps explain why 2nd leg tickets sold out to an earlier category than people may have expected.
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Where does the 600 figure come from? I would think it’s more like 200, which is the number of category 1 tickets the away club gets. I can’t imagine they’d fit another 600 on the club flight either.
For the home leg UEFA and its partners are entitled to about 1,900 tickets at this stage of the competition, and even more for the semis, which helps explain why 2nd leg tickets sold out to an earlier category than people may have expected.
Looking at the sections on the ticketing website, there was a Cat 1 section which as you say was probably 200 or so tickets but also another Hosp/GA+ section which had more. Bearing in mind there were only 2000 tickets and I think someone said the GA areas only added up to about 1400 then its safe to assume the 600 figure is about right. That said the Cat 1 section may be this UEFA stipulated Players family and friends section in which case our allocation was maybe only 1800 in the first place which means PSG are well under the UEFA stipulated 5% of capacity for away fans.
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My mate has a half share in a box in Trinity Road - near to Luke's. He's got 6 tickets - as he did for Bruges and Monaco. Taking his missus and brother and other family. On the official flight out Tuesday and back straight after the game. Club sort hotel etc and they get a drinks reception on arrival (Alan Macinally and James Chester hosted last time) then free for the evening. Lunch on match day coach to the ground and then airport after the match.
Looking at the numbers suspect there must be more than one flight out and back this time.
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I just need 1 ticket when my window opens Friday, fingers crossed!
I'm in the same boat of you having only been to 2 CL games, but it looks like it's completely sold out now, or at least it's listed as sold out. Always knew it was gonna be a long shot
Mate, don’t give up. I went on at 9am this morning and it said sold out - Chico got the same message. Come 9.30 seats were on sale, albeit with error messages, being turfed out and payment not working. It felt longer but took about 15 minutes to buy a ticket.
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I just need 1 ticket when my window opens Friday, fingers crossed!
I'm in the same boat of you having only been to 2 CL games, but it looks like it's completely sold out now, or at least it's listed as sold out. Always knew it was gonna be a long shot
Mate, don’t give up. I went on at 9am this morning and it said sold out - Chico got the same message. Come 9.30 seats were on sale, albeit with error messages, being turfed out and payment not working. It felt longer but took about 15 minutes to buy a ticket.
Its my understanding that It will say sold out until you’re eligible to buy as I got the same this morning then there was availability once the window opens.
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I had the same on Wednesday afternoon.
It's bedlam on there when they go on sale. Definitely felt more desperate this time than previous.
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I just need 1 ticket when my window opens Friday, fingers crossed!
I'm in the same boat of you having only been to 2 CL games, but it looks like it's completely sold out now, or at least it's listed as sold out. Always knew it was gonna be a long shot
Mate, don’t give up. I went on at 9am this morning and it said sold out - Chico got the same message. Come 9.30 seats were on sale, albeit with error messages, being turfed out and payment not working. It felt longer but took about 15 minutes to buy a ticket.
Its my understanding that It will say sold out until you’re eligible to buy as I got the same this morning then there was availability once the window opens.
Cheers for that, I will give it a shot come 9.30 and maybe something will come of it
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Still says sold out for me.
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Still says sold out for me.
Yeah it’s still coming up like that for me too
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Still says sold out for me.
Same. I'm logged in and have 1 CL match. history. Am also waiting on the blower...
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Still says sold out for me.
The AVFC Support X page says its sold out mate and was yesterday afternoon/evening
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Still says sold out for me.
The AVFC Support X page says its sold out mate and was yesterday afternoon/evening
Yep - just spoke to sales on the phone and it completely sold out yesterday at the 3 match+ member level.
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Still says sold out for me.
The AVFC Support X page says its sold out mate and was yesterday afternoon/evening
Yep - just spoke to sales on the phone and it completely sold out yesterday at the 3 match+ member level.
Thanks for confirming this, I’d been to 2 CL games, but knew this one was gonna be even harder to get a ticket for, so will have to settle to watching it on tv
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Maybe we need a bigger ground......
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Gutted. Had two Champions League games as well.
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Gutted. Had two Champions League games as well.
Yeah me too, though just gonna be grateful that I did get to them, to experience CL at Villa Park was something I never thought would happen. Even if today’s category had been 2 CL games we’d have still missed out so gonna look at it like that
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The £1,600 package is for Category 1 seats which aren't part of the away end.
Think about it- if you're a hospitality ticket holder paying that much do you want to spend an hour queuing up to have an intimate examination by a French copper before being imprisoned under legally dubious grounds for an hour or so in the stadium after the match (which you've viewed through a net)? Or do you want a nice seat next to Prince William and Ian Taylor with a good view of the match?
Something odd has happened with the PSG away tickets but it's nothing to do with the hospitality day trip.
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The £1,600 package is for Category 1 seats which aren't part of the away end.
Think about it- if you're a hospitality ticket holder paying that much do you want to spend an hour queuing up to have an intimate examination by a French copper before being imprisoned under legally dubious grounds for an hour or so in the stadium after the match (which you've viewed through a net)? Or do you want a nice seat next to Prince William and Ian Taylor with a good view of the match?
Something odd has happened with the PSG away tickets but it's nothing to do with the hospitality day trip.
It's actually not a totally outrageous price. For me to go, currently I'm looking at about £700 - £300 Eurostar, £300 ticket from PSG resale and £100 hotel (unless I sleep on daughter's sofa) so £900 for the bells and whistles and the risk of not being rumbled as a Villa fan. But I think I'd rather spend it on a proper holiday, as much as I'm desperate to see the Villa abroad in the CL.
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The £1,600 package is for Category 1 seats which aren't part of the away end.
Think about it- if you're a hospitality ticket holder paying that much do you want to spend an hour queuing up to have an intimate examination by a French copper before being imprisoned under legally dubious grounds for an hour or so in the stadium after the match (which you've viewed through a net)? Or do you want a nice seat next to Prince William and Ian Taylor with a good view of the match?
Something odd has happened with the PSG away tickets but it's nothing to do with the hospitality day trip.
It's actually not a totally outrageous price. For me to go, currently I'm looking at about £700 - £300 Eurostar, £300 ticket from PSG resale and £100 hotel (unless I sleep on daughter's sofa) so £900 for the bells and whistles and the risk of not being rumbled as a Villa fan. But I think I'd rather spend it on a proper holiday, as much as I'm desperate to see the Villa abroad in the CL.
I agree- I've seen the details of full package and it specifically includes the club's flight from the private terminal at BHX and a night in their hotel. I'd post it here if I knew how to!
What I think is interesting is the club aren't running their normal Sportsbreaks Day trip, which is what you'd assume 500 or so tix were held back for. That's usually 'only' about £500.
I know Lions clubs have got an allocation for this one- I wonder if this is where they've gone?
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
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All the GA+ tickets have sold for the home game too.
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The £1,600 package is for Category 1 seats which aren't part of the away end.
Think about it- if you're a hospitality ticket holder paying that much do you want to spend an hour queuing up to have an intimate examination by a French copper before being imprisoned under legally dubious grounds for an hour or so in the stadium after the match (which you've viewed through a net)? Or do you want a nice seat next to Prince William and Ian Taylor with a good view of the match?
Something odd has happened with the PSG away tickets but it's nothing to do with the hospitality day trip.
I bet it is
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The £1,600 package is for Category 1 seats which aren't part of the away end.
Think about it- if you're a hospitality ticket holder paying that much do you want to spend an hour queuing up to have an intimate examination by a French copper before being imprisoned under legally dubious grounds for an hour or so in the stadium after the match (which you've viewed through a net)? Or do you want a nice seat next to Prince William and Ian Taylor with a good view of the match?
Something odd has happened with the PSG away tickets but it's nothing to do with the hospitality day trip.
I bet it is
Why? That day trip involves category 1 tickets, which are a completely separate section and have been for every UEFA match we've played. It also involves flying on the club's flight, so unless we're hiring an A380 to bring the team from BHX to CDG, it seems unlikely.
(https://i.ibb.co/NnKgXG83/5914c6cf-e20e-499b-af9f-5f5eb2b910c5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NnKgXG83)
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If hypothetically we got spanked in 1st leg watch how quickly people will be selling their tickets 😂
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If hypothetically we got spanked in 1st leg watch how quickly people will be selling their tickets 😂
why? It's a CL game and we will have had a great run to get this far. Most fans will want to see a brilliant PSG team at Villa Park. Especially those who were to watch Rotherham or Barnsley a few years ago. Or are you saying you'd sell your ticket quickly?
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If hypothetically we got spanked in 1st leg watch how quickly people will be selling their tickets 😂
why? It's a CL game and we will have had a great run to get this far. Most fans will want to see a brilliant PSG team at Villa Park. Especially those who were to watch Rotherham or Barnsley a few years ago. Or are you saying you'd sell your ticket quickly?
PSG also managed to squander a 4-0 first-leg league in a Champions League game in recent memory and lose 6-5 on aggregate, which I imagine is exactly what would happen here as well.
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Total bollocks. About time UEFA sorted this sort of crap that undermines the integrity of the competition.
You don't think it might cause a few issues if UEFA decided that they, and not national associations were going to put themselves in charge of fixture scheduling?
No. That's not what UEFA would be doing. LFP ( Ligue de Football Professionnel) are deliberately trying to manipulate the the very basic element in European competition entitlement, the country coefficient by allowing PSG to opt out of domestic competition in between European matches. This undermines the integrity of the qualification process. UEFA need to protect that by sanctioning Associations that do that.
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If hypothetically we got spanked in 1st leg watch how quickly people will be selling their tickets 😂
why? It's a CL game and we will have had a great run to get this far. Most fans will want to see a brilliant PSG team at Villa Park. Especially those who were to watch Rotherham or Barnsley a few years ago. Or are you saying you'd sell your ticket quickly?
PSG also managed to squander a 4-0 first-leg league in a Champions League game in recent memory and lose 6-5 on aggregate, which I imagine is exactly what would happen here as well.
That would be some record for PSG’s manager at that time!
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PSG also managed to squander a 4-0 first-leg league in a Champions League game in recent memory and lose 6-5 on aggregate, which I imagine is exactly what would happen here as well.
Unai is involved once again so you never know.
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
Block 304 as I wanted a slightly better view
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I get access denied
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
Can I check which site this is? I’m trying https://billetterie.psg.fr which blocked the U.K. emails a couple of days ago.
Thanks.
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
Can I check which site this is? I’m trying https://billetterie.psg.fr which blocked the U.K. emails a couple of days ago.
Thanks.
Yes, that's the one. Maybe need a VPN?
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
Can I check which site this is? I’m trying https://billetterie.psg.fr which blocked the U.K. emails a couple of days ago.
Thanks.
Yes, that's the one. Maybe need a VPN?
Thanks mate, yes, used a Paris VPN and I'm in. Which part are you looking at that isn't the resale site (the one without fees etc)?
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You see two buttons, one red and the other blue? (Ticketplace). You need to first join their membership club (Rouge et bleu, 8e), then you should have access to the Rouge et bleu tickets. Currently 100 or so tickets in Category 7, 269e. The main benefit is that it's a flat rate, unlike Ticketplace where only singles are in that price range (if you're after a single, Ticketplace may make more sense, as for Jon above). I think more might become available over the next week or so, so am keeping my powder dry at the minute, personally, in the hope I'll be able to take the fam.
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Just for a bit of extra context: there look to be roughly 2-3k tickets available on Ticketplace, plus a couple of hundred (so far) on the direct site. So given the size of the ground and high proportion of STH, it's not exactly a burning sellout (yet), or at least the Ticketplace asking prices have not yet descended to the level of the demand in my view.
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I note that you can’t access the PSG secondary ticket site now. Saying no access for me even with a French VPN on
I’ve been able to access it all day but may be because I’m working abroad. Now bought a ticket on the side of the ground but relatively close to our supporters.
Which block, Jon?
Btw, regular tickets slowly coming back for sale now on the PSG site - not a million miles cheaper than the resale site, but minus the fee and no premium for groups of tickets.
Block 304 as I wanted a slightly better view
Good move, those look like great seats.
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Thanks for the info. I try to join their membership and it says that offer isn't open to me or some such. Maybe cos I put my real address when joining? Resale home tickets a bit too high for me atm
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The tickets that are gradually becoming available on the official site broadly are in the same ballpark as the resale site.
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"I see David Platt's back" - you say it as if he's Onana or Barkley finally returning to fitness! We could have done with Platty a few weeks ago but now Asensio provides us with our needs.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20dxyxzprzo
Would be a Real shame if we managed to get past PSG and the quartet weren’t available for the Semi’s.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20dxyxzprzo
Would be a Real shame if we managed to get past PSG and the quartet weren’t available for the Semi’s.
If that happened then it has to be a sign for us to go all the way for a classic against Bayern or Inter in the final !
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What a ridiculous load of nonsense talksport are talking about four Madrid players looking at a ban for their quarter final
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You know that if we get through, Emi will be banned against Real.
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Have we got anyone at risk of a ban from an accumulation of yellow cards?
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Yes.
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Rashford / Disasi / Kamara / Digne if I remember rightly. Then they expire after the quarter finals if we're still in it.
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Great. We'll do well for them to come through without another one.
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Yeah, the latter two feel particularly inevitable for a second-leg suspension.
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They miss a couple for the first leg against us don't they. Any others currently walking close for them?
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Just Marquinhos I think. Although as their main centre-back and captain, it's a big one.
Fabian Ruiz has been booked twice, so presumably he'd be out of the second leg with a booking in the first. He's the only one they need to worry about though I think.
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What a ridiculous load of nonsense talksport are talking about four Madrid players looking at a ban for their quarter final
They are desperate for Arsenal to win it - God forbid.
As for that image of Rudiger - he looks like he is an All Black in the middle of the Haka - crazy!
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PSG have just become the first club to qualify for the 2025/26 Champions League.
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They'll probably be on the beach for the rest of the season now.
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Micky Mouse league. Winning 6-1 at St Etienne is like Celtic going to Ross County. I don't think PSG are all they are cracked up to be. Liverpool made them look better than they really are.
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PSG have just become the first club to qualify for the 2025/26 Champions League.
Surely the winners of the Norwegian, Irish, Finnish, Icelandic, etc, leagues beat them by a good four or five months?
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I reckon now that it is a league then it's fine.
Other clubs have already qualified for the qualifying rounds.
Before this season I'd have joined you on your barricade.
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PSG have just become the first club to qualify for the 2025/26 Champions League.
Surely the winners of the Norwegian, Irish, Finnish, Icelandic, etc, leagues beat them by a good four or five months?
Nope, because none of those has automatic access into the league stage, the qualifying rounds in the summer are considered a different competition.
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Ah, I see.
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Was just looking at the fixtures calendar. If we manage to get past Palace and PSG, that means an extra two midweek game slots are taken up with the UCL semi final games, and us needing to fit Man City away and Spurs home back into the calendar somewhere.
Nice problem to have, but that's a crazy amount of games in such a short space of time - Are there even enough spare mid-week windows to fit those extra two games in between now and end of league season?
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They'll probably be on the beach for the rest of the season now.
It's a long trip on daily basis, 450KM return to Plage de Pennedepie.
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Was just looking at the fixtures calendar. If we manage to get past Palace and PSG, that means an extra two midweek game slots are taken up with the UCL semi final games, and us needing to fit Man City away and Spurs home back into the calendar somewhere.
Nice problem to have, but that's a crazy amount of games in such a short space of time - Are there even enough spare mid-week windows to fit those extra two games in between now and end of league season?
Yes. City match can be brought forward to the Wednesday before the Semi-finals. Then the Spurs one could come forward before the final, although the notice of that change is very late. Otherwise we might have to play the final Saturday, then Monday/Tuesday unless Spurs get knocked out of Europa.
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If we beat PSG, do we already know the exact dates of the semi final, ie Tuesday or Wednesday of the week in question, or does that remain a variable depending on the teams involved etc?
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If we beat PSG, do we already know the exact dates of the semi final, ie Tuesday or Wednesday of the week in question, or does that remain a variable depending on the teams involved etc?
Not decided yet. Last round they announced it late on the Wednesday night.
I've heard a few people talking about the Citeh game moved to before the semi final. I'd prefer that not to happen given how important the semi final is but I suppose it's preferable to playing the midweek before the final as we might have to if we go through in CL.
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This has just been posted by Kieram Maguire - Liverpool University lecturer, expert on football finance and host of The Price of Football Podcast.
UEFA considering having an additional Champions League place awarded to the most profitable club in Europe. Clubs amenable to idea but arguing over how profit should be defined. Manchester United want it based on EBITDA as will ignore poor player recruitment and interest on the Glazer loans. Spurs want it based on long term results in which case they would qualify as the PL’s most profitable club. Daniel Levy said “There’s’ far too much emphasis on results on the pitch and not enough focus on the boardroom and this proposal will reward sustainability which is what fans really want rather than trophies”.
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Somehow I missed a bit off my last post
Todd Boehly considering selling Cole Palmer to the completely independent Chelsea women’s team for £200 million then loaning him back.
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Hilarious stuff.
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Well done SaddVillain for your good and very foolish contribution on this day.
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The sad thing is that the "responses" from Yanited and Spuds are actually believable and that they reflect their sense of privileged entitlement.
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The powers that be (Premier league, ECL, Sponsors etc) will do everything in their power to get the redcnuts back in the Champs league
And as for Spurs - well they cannot be taken serious on any aspect of football discussion
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It was an April Fool.
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the PSG match is less than a week away when is It going to be out up on H and V board as a pre match thread ?
It's the biggest game this century in many respects and biggest since the European cup final in 1982.
Are we still saying after forest match ?
Is there a poll we can have ?
Basically should have it before weekend or after weekend?
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Are we still saying after forest match ?
Is there a poll we can have ?
Basically should have it before weekend or after weekend?
Yes.
No.
After the weekend.
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I'll start one at some stage. Hope that helps FV.
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The old adage of one game at a time. We're focused on the Forest game for now.
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The old adage of one game at a time. We're focused on the Forest game for now.
I'll start one at some stage. Hope that helps FV.
Ok thank you both that’s fine. I hope you have a very sunnny weekend! both in weather and heart. UTV!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20dxyxzprzo
Would be a Real shame if we managed to get past PSG and the quartet weren’t available for the Semi’s.
All been fined, but no bans for quarter finals or beyond.
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Does anyone think they'll get their fingers out of their arses and distribute the tickets for the home game today, like they said they would, or do we reckon they have got bogged down with trying to sell Wembley tickets?
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I’ve got mine
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This has just been posted by Kieram Maguire - Liverpool University lecturer, expert on football finance and host of The Price of Football Podcast.
UEFA considering having an additional Champions League place awarded to the most profitable club in Europe. Clubs amenable to idea but arguing over how profit should be defined. Manchester United want it based on EBITDA as will ignore poor player recruitment and interest on the Glazer loans. Spurs want it based on long term results in which case they would qualify as the PL’s most profitable club. Daniel Levy said “There’s’ far too much emphasis on results on the pitch and not enough focus on the boardroom and this proposal will reward sustainability which is what fans really want rather than trophies”.
I'm just waiting for MLS winners to be in the ECL...
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I'd play Onana next week, he's disruptive and confident and could help stamp some authority on the game with the crowd behind us...
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Play all our six footers. Free kicks, corners, long throws. If we can't beat them on the floor then maybe a much more direct approach is a better approach.
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I’ve got mine
Yeah mine came in at 7pm ish
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We need to show them less respect this game .
Get a few early goals and turn the Aston screw into them.
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I don't think it will be like that. Rather, if things go to plan, it will be a tight game until 70 odd minutes, at which point we'll throw the kitchen sink (and Asencio) at it. Think Atleti '98, without conceding the goal, Rashford "72, Rogers "73.
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In fairness, i'd take either scenario. I think we will play a lot better and they won't hit the heights they did this week.
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In fairness, i'd take either scenario. I think we will play a lot better and they won't hit the heights they did this week.
That’s 3 Champions League games in a row where they’ve been brilliant, I’m not sure why you’ve convinced yourself it was a one-off.
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In fairness, i'd take either scenario. I think we will play a lot better and they won't hit the heights they did this week.
That’s 3 Champions League games in a row where they’ve been brilliant, I’m not sure why you’ve convinced yourself it was a one-off.
No need to limit it to the last three, the five Champions League matches before those won by a combined score of 21-3.
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Yeah rattling in 17 goals vs the likes of Stade Brest Stuttgart and Salzburg.
They've been beaten 4 times in the competition already this season. A 5th defeat awaits .
Context is always useful.
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Context is always useful.
I always try to bear it in mind when reading your posts.
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The bad news is that in their last 70 games they've lost by 2 or more goals only three times. The better news is that 2 of them were in England,
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I'd keep it tight till half time, then throw the kitchen sink at them second half to send them into disarray and Villa Park into rapture.
We've got to defy ridiculously heavy odds for it to work out the way we want.... But as a wise man once said, 'It's a funny old game'.
#UTV
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I'd keep it tight till half time, then throw the kitchen sink at them second half to send them into disarray and Villa Park into rapture.
We've got to defy ridiculously heavy odds for it to work out the way we want.... But as a wise man once said, 'It's a funny old game'.
#UTV
I agree, except I'd probably try to go full tilt for the first 5-10mins as well. An early goal would be huge.
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The bad news is that in their last 70 games they've lost by 2 or more goals only three times. The better news is that 2 of them were in England,
That's because they spend 90% of their games bullying Marcel Marceau and Gerard Depardieu.
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Stories today that UEFA are looking at the seedings after the tables because Arse are playing Real away second leg even though they finished top 8. They want the teams who finish top 8 to have even more advantage in the knockout stages. Personally I don't think it matters. Out of the teams who finished top 8, only 4 are still into the knock-out stages anyway even when they had the "advantage" of playing home second leg.
And finishing that high gives them more money AND more association points anyway.
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Stories today that UEFA are looking at the seedings after the tables because Arse are playing Real away second leg even though they finished top 8. They want the teams who finish top 8 to have even more advantage in the knockout stages. Personally I don't think it matters. Out of the teams who finished top 8, only 4 are still into the knock-out stages anyway even when they had the "advantage" of playing home second leg.
And finishing that high gives them more money AND more association points anyway.
If they wanted it to be a real advantage then they should change it to a single leg.
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The advantage should be more money for each league position and swerving the playoffs. After that no seeding, all in a velvet bag and hope for the best.
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However brackets in the latter stages have pretty much been a thing for multiple years including 1982.
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And it should have been a velvet bag every previous year.
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Is it still money for a win or just round progression to get dosh now?
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Stories today that UEFA are looking at the seedings after the tables because Arse are playing Real away second leg even though they finished top 8. They want the teams who finish top 8 to have even more advantage in the knockout stages. Personally I don't think it matters. Out of the teams who finished top 8, only 4 are still into the knock-out stages anyway even when they had the "advantage" of playing home second leg.
And finishing that high gives them more money AND more association points anyway.
If they wanted it to be a real advantage then they should change it to a single leg.
Agree with this. Also don't see any harm in giving extra incentives to teams who finish higher up, it means teams will have more to play for at the end of the Group Stage which means fewer dead rubbers.
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This season there wasn't too many dead rubbers in the top 24 anyway. I think only three teams had definitely qualified going into the last week and only Liverpool put out a weakened team and still finished first because Barca couldn't beat Atalanta.
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Don't disagree. I still think a more varied draw with one legged ties would be more exciting. Rather than just two potential opponents, the top half teams in each round based on league position get seeded and home advantage so you'd have lots of potential opponents and everyone would be desperate to finish as high as possible in the group stage.
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Personally no. Why should Liverpool have every match apart from the final at Anfield? Or Arsenal have every match but the semi and final at Emirates? Whilst the league had a few shocks, there was still four "big" teams in the top four who you are arguing should be given almost byes all the way through. And then what happens if a "smaller" team get through against those odds by winning. Should seeded teams be shuffled?
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Yeah, maybe you could have it like that. I'm not really a fan of pre-drawn draws though, if that makes sense. Prefer a new draw every round. I wouldn't necessarily have one leg every round, but it should definitely be one game in the round of 24, IMO, to reward teams that finish higher up. Teams in the top eight already have the reward of getting a bye.
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Weren't that what you were envisaging when stating that their should only be one leg per round in the knock-outs and the team who wins the league is given home advantage? So going on this season, Liverpool would have every match bar the final at home if they got through, and assuming they lost out to PSG, we would have only played in Paris because PSG should have inherited Liverpool's seeding.
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Ok. Will just have it for round of 24 then, you've won me over.
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Now that we're gone, the important thing is that Arsenal don't win.
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I don't really care how they do the seedings/brackets next season as long as we're in it.
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Now that we're gone, the important thing is that Arsenal don't win.
If Arsenal beat PSG they'll deserve to win it. I personally think PSG will go all the way.
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I actually think Inter will win it, But tough to call against any of them still in it. They all have strong strengths and weaknesses. Barca showed in their legs that they can score for fun, but they were just kept in massive check last night in Dortmund.
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What a night, what a game!! The atmosphere was fantastic and the Trinity was bouncing like the Holte.
Martinez, Cash, Digne, Konsa, McGinn, Watkins were all circling the relegation zone under Gerrard a few years ago and last night they beat PSG in a Champs League quarterfinal final game. Emery is a genius!! Can’t wait for more Champs League next season, we’ve had some wonderful nights this season.
Edit, meant to post this in the post match thread.
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Don't disagree. I still think a more varied draw with one legged ties would be more exciting. Rather than just two potential opponents, the top half teams in each round based on league position get seeded and home advantage so you'd have lots of potential opponents and everyone would be desperate to finish as high as possible in the group stage.
Isn't that the European Super League we didn't like the idea of?
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No, because it's based on merit rather than just letting the same teams in every year.
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Now that we're gone, the important thing is that Arsenal don't win.
If Arsenal beat PSG they'll deserve to win it. I personally think PSG will go all the way.
I don't care if they deserve it or not. It's that bunch of entitled dickheads.
It's the principle. Every new English club that wins dilutes our achievement, particularly one which has trouble shitting because of all the media tongues blocking its hole.
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Now that we're gone, the important thing is that Arsenal don't win.
If Arsenal beat PSG they'll deserve to win it. I personally think PSG will go all the way.
I don't care if they deserve it or not. It's that bunch of entitled dickheads.
It's the principle.
Agreed. Anyone But Arsenal for me.
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When do we know if 5th spot gets CL?
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When do we know if 5th spot gets CL?
In theory, about three months ago.
Mathematically, last week when Arsenal beat Real Madrid.
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When do we know if 5th spot gets CL?
I believe it's already confirmed. I think we (English teams) needed one more win last week, and Arsenal beating Real means that mathematically, we can't be overtaken by two countries now, so we'll definitely finish in the top 2 of the coefficient league, and get an extra place.
Ironically, if Arsenal had drawn last week, our win last night would have improved the national coefficient enough to guarantee 5th place gets Champions League , even though we lost the tie.
I think it's down to Spain and Italy as to who gets the other extra place now.
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But if Arsenal get turned over tonight would that reverse the status?
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But if Arsenal get turned over tonight would that reverse the status?
No.
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I think it's down to Spain and Italy as to who gets the other extra place now.
It's basically Spain though.
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Whoever at the club is responsible for those giant Tifos and particularly the one last night should be applauded, they look absolute class.
Our tifos getting some praise here. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/crld756x5g4o
Arsenal's one last night was shite.