Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Footy-Vill on May 09, 2024, 10:51:09 PM
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Introducing the Blonde Bombshell
https://www.avfc.co.uk/players/u21/finleymunroe/
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/april/12/munroe-pens-professional-contract/
Well done to Marilyn tonight getting his first appearance minutes and in the semi final of Europa Conference League!
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It was Marilyn Monroe. With an 'o'. Perhaps just call him by his actual name?
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Obviously he only got a few minutes and in comparison to what came before anything would have looked good, but.... I thought he looked alright?
Seemed to put himself about a bit and wasn't afraid of a bit of physical action, forcing one of their players back to the half way line at one point.
Do wish we could have given some of these kids more playing time this season. Would be very handy to know we had one or two ready to add to the squad next season without having to spend.
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I thought he was the pick of our subs, busy and diligent. Well done young man.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
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It was Marilyn Monroe. With an 'o'. Perhaps just call him by his actual name?
People were using Angela for Henri Lansbury. Somewhat incessantly.
There is no difference.
Plus Marylin is a major star and far bigger than Angela Lansbury.
And there's a decision to be made on calling Rogers , Ginger or Buck. These are far more universally known than Angela
I think Matt the singer with the golden voice Monro still works too.
But Marylin it is. Move over Angela.
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Back in the 80s in Torquay there used to be a nightclub called Monroes.
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it. I did dream we would lose 2 0 tonight tho .
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There's an opportunity for creative nicknames for all the squad players.
Thats for another thread another time and for the relative creatives or basics of fitting a name to a player.
There's also the pun fest links to a new player threads that it can potentially brings to a player. Duran was signed and people who were familiar quickly latched on to Duran Duran songs for example after a band from the past.
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Back in the 80s in Torquay there used to be a nightclub called Monroes.
Jhon Duran Duran being played?
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it.
Hard to imagine you'd have a Declan and a Finley in the same family.
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There's an opportunity for creative nicknames for all the squad players.
Thats for another thread another time and for the relative creatives or basics of fitting a name to a player.
There's also the pun fest links to a new player threads that it can potentially brings to a player. Duran was signed and people who were familiar quickly latched on to Duran Duran songs for example after a band from the past.
This is AI and I claim my five pounds.
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it. I did dream we would lose 2 0 tonight tho .
Yes the Cousin of Muller
Ashley Cole advisied Chelsea to give him a scholarship.
Marylin is a late developer and Villa saw something special in the teenager at the time of his release from Chelsea.
Marylin has taken to the full-back role with ease given his natural ability on the ball.
Last season, he posted impressive ball retention numbers having completed 394 passes in 14 games, with 73 of those being long passes.
He has a wicked delivery and can take set-pieces - he crashed the bar in the 5-0 win over Brentford in the FA Youth Cup back in December last year, after netting a penalty and assisting another goal in the same match.
For a player whose career has been affected by his late development, and a perceived lack of presence in the air, it’s impressive that he won 75 per cent of his aerial duels last term too.
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Back in the 80s in Torquay there used to be a nightclub called Monroes.
Jhon Duran Duran being played?
No that was only played in the reflex nightclub.
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it.
Hard to imagine you'd have a Declan and a Finley in the same family.
They are Irish ancestors aren't they ?
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
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Incidentally re the injury crisis - how many of us had even heard of him before tonight?
He's just played for us in a European Semi Final.
That says a lot.
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it.
Hard to imagine you'd have a Declan and a Finley in the same family.
They are Irish ancestors aren't they ?
We have lot of Declans over here, Finleys not so much.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
Sometimes young players fame goes to the heads. Lets hope he's a solid professional and willing to learn and take instructions.
The actual Marylin Monroe fame killed her.
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He sounds like an imposter at Blandings Castle.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
That was really well done - tenacious and intelligent.
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There's an opportunity for creative nicknames for all the squad players.
Thats for another thread another time and for the relative creatives or basics of fitting a name to a player.
There's also the pun fest links to a new player threads that it can potentially brings to a player. Duran was signed and people who were familiar quickly latched on to Duran Duran songs for example after a band from the past.
This is AI and I claim my five pounds.
Stop bullying the cyborg please.
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Can't be many youth players that make their senior debut in a European semi final.
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Incidentally re the injury crisis - how many of us had even heard of him before tonight?
He's just played for us in a European Semi Final.
That says a lot.
I thought he was the bloke with the everlasting pen from The Fast Show.
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did someone say he was declan rice's cousin or did dream it.
Hard to imagine you'd have a Declan and a Finley in the same family.
They are Irish ancestors aren't they ?
We have lot of Declans over here, Finleys not so much.
Finley is more of a surname here. Might be on the other side they're related.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
Sometimes young players fame goes to the heads. Lets hope he's a solid professional and willing to learn and take instructions.
The actual Marylin Monroe fame killed her.
Calling him Marilyn just sounds disrespectful. And you're the only one doing it. So maybe just do it yourself in your head or something.
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Footy-Vill, you may be interested to learn that one of our esteemed posters UK Redsox (hope he's ok by the way, haven't seen him post in a while) gave Callum O'Hare the most gloriously shoe-horned nickname of all time - "Airport Boy".
I'll leave you to research on how he came up with that one, it will be educational in an appropriate way.
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Footy-Vill, you may be interested to learn that one of our esteemed posters UK Redsox (hope he's ok by the way, haven't seen him post in a while) gave Callum O'Hare the most gloriously shoe-horned nickname of all time - "Airport Boy".
I'll leave you to research on how he came up with that one, it will be educational in an appropriate way.
At the same time, he can learn why its IATA code is ORD rather than e.g OHA.
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I thought he was near and tide, potential to be developed.
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It was Marilyn Monroe. With an 'o'. Perhaps just call him by his actual name?
People were using Angela for Henri Lansbury. Somewhat incessantly.
There is no difference.
Plus Marylin is a major star and far bigger than Angela Lansbury.
And there's a decision to be made on calling Rogers , Ginger or Buck. These are far more universally known than Angela
I think Matt the singer with the golden voice Monro still works too.
But Marylin it is. Move over Angela.
I thought you were trying to stop being annoying?
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Anyway, fuck this, I’m off to listen to some Cosa Nostra rat cocksuckers to cheer me up.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
He’s been given Friday off. And apparently he’s off to see his cousins in Mullingar but stupidly going on Ryanair.
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I thought he did well when he came on.
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Will never refer to him as Marilyn, I don't think.
Same way as I cringe when people start calling Duran, 'panda'.
Yeah, I bet I'm fun at parties and all that.
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Airport Boy was the worst ever. Angela was also annoying. Let's never call Finley 'Marilyn' again please.
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Well, I was simply supplying nicknames and debate because I thought it was what people did, and part of the humour.
I selected Ginger and Marylin as they are iconic but if it's preferred not to then I shall not it was confusing when Lansbury was called Angela and I agree that it can be irritating but add perplexing if it's something that's not universally known like a Marylin Monroe or a Ginger Rogers.
Thanks for your take Chris I will go along with your advice and just stick to the players names.
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I will not be looking into this airport boy thing after looking up things before I imagine it will be something not to my liking !
I think it's fair to come out with the occasional reference to Ginny, Cashy Ez, Diego, Pau, Dougie, for current players.
Prince William knows all the nicknames of the players Cashy said I wonder what they are?
And Finley Munroe it shall remain!
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I used to call Callum O’Hare Chicago.
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I used to call Callum O’Hare Chicago.
Because he once came on midway during the second half?
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I used to call Callum O’Hare Chicago.
Because he once came on midway during the second half?
No, because he had bad flatulence.
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
Sometimes young players fame goes to the heads. Lets hope he's a solid professional and willing to learn and take instructions.
The actual Marylin Monroe fame killed her.
Calling him Marilyn just sounds disrespectful. And you're the only one doing it. So maybe just do it yourself in your head or something.
I used to call Callum O’Hare Chicago.
Because he once came on midway during the second half?
No, because he had bad flatulence.
I'm sorry this is confusing posts and what you said early and controlling what i post now and dispute it's disrespectful anyway and your saying I can't do nicknames but you can?! That doesn't make sense and Marylin Monroe is not in bad taste unlike the toilet humour and insuation on Callum O Hare.
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There is no toilet humour or bad insinutation on Callum O'Hare's "Airport Boy" moniker.
UK Redsox is merely an avid Americanophile, O'Hare airport is based in Chicago. So it was purely geographical and wholesome, not deviant and sexual.
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I believe you are all referring to Bucky O'Hare, actually.
Footy - nicknames are best when they are earned and have some meaning that triggers memories or something. If you just make one up for the sake of having one, it's going to be meaningless and won't be used, I'm afraid.
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What was the deal with Henri Lansbury being nick named after an actress
It's different rules apply?
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His Ill discipline is not professional.
I disagree, fouling is part of the game. As mentioned above he tracked his man to the halfway line, a less dangerous area to commit the foul. Done his job like a pro.
Yes, but I have heard he is a bad person.
Sometimes young players fame goes to the heads. Lets hope he's a solid professional and willing to learn and take instructions.
The actual Marylin Monroe fame killed her.
Calling him Marilyn just sounds disrespectful. And you're the only one doing it. So maybe just do it yourself in your head or something.
I used to call Callum O’Hare Chicago.
Because he once came on midway during the second half?
No, because he had bad flatulence.
I'm sorry this is confusing posts and what you said early and controlling what i post now and dispute it's disrespectful anyway and your saying I can't do nicknames but you can?! That doesn't make sense and Marylin Monroe is not in bad taste unlike the toilet humour and insuation on Callum O Hare.
Chicago is the 'Windy City' hence my jape about flatulence. And that has nothing to do with the name someone used a couple of times for him. My point wasn't serious. I've never called him that, or used Angela, Marilyn or Ginger. I think I have about Grealish though, but that's because he's a stupid, contemptible individual.
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What was the deal with Henri Lansbury being nick named after an actress
It's different rules apply?
Because he was a big girl's blouse, more concerned with his hair looking right than actually being good at football. And he spelt his first name with an 'i'.
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What was the deal with Henri Lansbury being nick named after an actress
It's different rules apply?
Because he was a big girl's blouse, more concerned with his hair looking right than actually being good at football. And he spelt his first name with an 'i'.
Dotb remember that. iHenri does sound shit though, you're right. I wonder if he's tech-savvy..
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Implying Henri is a big girls blouse ? The man overcame testicular from heavens sake and you have the nerve to call him this.
Sounds immature and offensive insults of the British Johnson variety!
That's misogynistic too.
Comments like that are ignorant and offensive!
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You’re being ignorant on this one. Nickname was set long before his health issues became public knowledge
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FV just wants the “accolade” of nicknaming a player and hoping that it sticks. Unfortunately for him/her/they/it/AI these efforts simply won’t, and we’d never hear the end of it from him/her/they/it/AI if it did just like all the other predictions/foresight/divine intervention he/she/they/it/AI claims to have foretold.
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Oh brother!
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Implying Henri is a big girls blouse ? The man overcame testicular from heavens sake and you have the nerve to call him this.
Sounds immature and offensive insults of the British Johnson variety!
That's misogynistic too.
Comments like that are ignorant and offensive!
Can somebody turn Footy VillAI off and on again, it's gone a bit funny.
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Implying Henri is a big girls blouse ? The man overcame testicular from heavens sake and you have the nerve to call him this.
Sounds immature and offensive insults of the British Johnson variety!
That's misogynistic too.
Comments like that are ignorant and offensive!
Can somebody turn Footy VillAI off and on again, it's gone a bit funny.
Just leaving it off would be fine too.
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The confusion about things which seem obvious to most people. Obsession about stats and misjudged/misunderstood social interactions. Think there’s a more low-tech and likely explanation than an AI bot.
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FV just wants the “accolade” of nicknaming a player and hoping that it sticks. Unfortunately for him/her/they/it/AI these efforts simply won’t, and we’d never hear the end of it from him/her/they/it/AI if it did just like all the other predictions/foresight/divine intervention he/she/they/it/AI claims to have foretold.
And what an accolade. I don't want to blow my own trumpet [insert Kenneth Williams gif] but many years ago I came up with the idea of nicknaming Steven Hodge "f##king wan#er" and that appears to have stuck.
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You’re being ignorant on this one. Nickname was set long before his health issues became public knowledge
But the name calling of big girls blouse is rather inappropriate.
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You’re being ignorant on this one. Nickname was set long before his health issues became public knowledge
But the name calling of big girls blouse is rather inappropriate.
Yes, name-calling based on someone's appearance or gender is definitely inappropriate and can be hurtful. It's important to treat others with respect and kindness.
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
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But giving a male player a female name as a nickname, is ok?
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
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Like clothes I see names are genderless actually in todays society anything goes.
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
I wonder if ever come a time if people accepted each other and not insist on things as different or as normal
I pray for that day!
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
I wonder if ever come a time if people accepted each other and not insist on things as different or as normal
I pray for that day!
Thoughts & prayers...
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If Marilyn sticks (and I pray to god that it doesn't) that doesn't mean we're all going to start singing Candle In The Wind does it?
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But giving a male player a female name as a nickname, is ok?
Wasn't John Wayne's real name Marilyn?
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But giving a male player a female name as a nickname, is ok?
Wasn't John Wayne's real name Marilyn?
No, Marion Morrisson
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
So true, why can't people use my actual name instead of calling me 'donkey schlong'? :(
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
So true, why can't people use my actual name instead of calling me 'donkey schlong'? :(
Im sure you're not a massive dick. You seem a lovely chap...
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
So true, why can't people use my actual name instead of calling me 'donkey schlong'? :(
I love the irony of nicknames.
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My vote for most existential thread goes here. WTF?
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What was the deal with Henri Lansbury being nick named after an actress
It's different rules apply?
Because a) Lansbury is not a common name, and she's the only other famous person with that name most people can think of; b) he (Lansbury) was a mediocre and sometimes poor player so a silly/mildly insulting nickname is more appropriate than using it for a kid who has just come through our youth system; c) His surname is MUnroe, not MOnroe.
Is that enough explanation for you?
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When FV sees this, there'll be murder at what you wrote.
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When FV sees this, there'll be murder at what you wrote.
Is Tokyo a 'she'?
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
1996. FAC Q/F Forest away. "He's got a pineapple on his head "
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I always wonder why supporters would have an issue with a long haired male player be it own club , opposition or rival team
It's a story as old as time. Anything physical that marks you out as different can be seized-upon by tribes.
Thank God Footy (none of them) will be able to remember Asa Hartford if we're talking "bit different" songs.
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Don’t forget shouting TinaTina Tina at englands number 1 Peter Shilton.
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Where’s your wife gone,
Where’s your wife gone,
Where’s your wiiiiife gone Stanley Bowles?
With the milkman,
With the milkman,
With the milkman Stanley Bowles.
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This guy looks cracking prospect, 20 now, is he going to get a chance, or will he just be another we sell for PSR.
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I expect the sale being as we are loaning him to 3rd division Spanish and 4th division English clubs at 20/21 age bracket.
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Perhaps a loan until Emery can fit him in!
He does look rather exciting.
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Went to the Swindon - Tranmere game a couple of weeks ago and his winner in injury time was one of the sweetest strikes you could hope for..
Didn't realise that he was one of ours at the time.
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Went to the Swindon - Tranmere game a couple of weeks ago and his winner in injury time was one of the sweetest strikes you could hope for..
Didn't realise that he was one of ours at the time.
Think I posted it in the Loanwatch thread. A beauty.
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Don’t forget shouting TinaTina Tina at englands number 1 Peter Shilton.
Tina
There is no alternative
But I've got to live (you know)
And I ain't living on my own, oh no
All those places we never met
Near misses
Your lipstick on my coffee cup
Screwing in a charity shop
On top of black bin bags
Full of donations
The smell of digestive biscuits in the air
Welcome back to dreamland
We all know your name
T I N A, still reads her book on the train
Tina - yes tonight I have been thinking about Tina...
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Looks like we're about to sell our Finn:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa
Middlesbrough and Bristol City have made offers for Aston Villa defender Finley Munroe.
The Championship pair are fighting to sign the left-back who has been on loan at Swindon this season.
The Robins' bid is around £350,000, with Boro's offer around the same and includes a sell-on clause. A move from Villa Park could be finalised this week.
His loan at the County Ground is expected to be terminated soon, allowing him to move permanently.
Munroe has made 27 appearances for Swindon, scoring twice, with Ian Holloway's side second in League Two, five points behind leaders Bromley.
The 20-year-old joined Villa after leaving Chelsea's academy in 2021.
He has made two senior appearances, making his debut as a late substitute in the Europa Conference League semi-final defeat at Olympiakos, before coming on against Crystal Palace in May 2024.
They came after he signed a new contract while he spent last season on loan at Real Union, Villa's sister club in Spain.
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That feels a little cheap given the season he's having, I hope any sell-on clause is heavily in our favour to justify it.
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We're hardly going to get millions for someone that's played half a season in division 4 and a season in div 3 in Spain. May as well get some money in and bring in the next youngster from somewhere to try and fatten them up to sell.
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We're hardly going to get millions for someone that's played half a season in division 4 and a season in div 3 in Spain. May as well get some money in and bring in the next youngster from somewhere to try and fatten them up to sell.
No, but if 2 championship clubs are interested I'd have thought we'd be looking at 7 figures. 2 goals and 9 asists in 27 games is a very good return for a left-back which makes me think if us selling Azaz a bit cheaper than we should've when he had a record that probably justified us asking for more.
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They'd possibly be a lot less interested at 7 figures. If they were interested at a higher price you'd think at least one would be increasing bids to put them ahead of the other. Which may happen yet in fairness, it's not like he's already gone for 350k.
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Don’t forget shouting TinaTina Tina at englands number 1 Peter Shilton.
I went to Newcastle v Southampton as a student in Durham and everytime the ball went to Shilton the Geordies chanted " Tina, Tina, show us your flaps" I assumed it was a reference to a tabloid story that he had been caught in the act in the back of a car with a young lady of the same name?
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You’d hope sell on or buy back are included….L2 to Champ is a big step up, if he handles that then his value ups
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🚨 Middlesbrough have won the race to sign Aston Villa defender Finley Munroe.
@SportsPeteO
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You’d hope sell on or buy back are included….L2 to Champ is a big step up, if he handles that then his value ups
I would be very surprised if a significant sell-on isn't included if the fee is really around £350k. It might not make us anything, but if we have these with most of the youngsters we sell on, then it's potentially a nice little bonus down the line...
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I trust we will recall the merry dance that 'boro led us on when we were trying to sign Morgan Rogers.
Perhaps we can remind them what that feels like, by agreeing to this deal (with a massive sell-on percentage) at about 11pm on deadline day.
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I trust we will recall the merry dance that 'boro led us on when we were trying to sign Morgan Rogers.
Perhaps we can remind them what that feels like, by agreeing to this deal (with a massive sell-on percentage) at about 11pm on deadline day.
Yes, and that we don’t agree to sell Monroe now only to then realise our core target for this window is Hayden Hackney…
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Seems the type of player that we need to add a buy back and sell on clause to. Very well thought of by the supporters
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Aston Villa can confirm that Finley Munroe has been recalled from his loan at Swindon Town and has joined Middlesbrough for an undisclosed fee.
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Reasonable deal.
Other than clubs in receipt of parachute payments or with wealthy owners invested in a 'project', most EFL clubs are skint, with limited funds for transfer fees.
He won't get into our first team for at least 2-3 seasons, so it makes sense to sell him for a modest fee so he can build his career and earn more elsewhere. If he does well and gets a big money move, the Boro', Villa and the player benefit.
Expect similar moves for a number of our youngsters who've got to their early 20s.
Wonder if there's a buyback option?
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I’d guess there would be a plethora clauses given the low fee.
I wonder whether the reported £350k covers the costs to develop him. With a potential profit in the post.
Anyone hazard a guess at what it costs to build a footballer?
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£300k with 30% sell on is ok given he was out of contract at the end of the season
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Anyone hazard a guess at what it costs to build a footballer?
$43.8 million*.
*Six million dollars in today's money.