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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: AV84 on April 30, 2024, 09:52:01 PM
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Anyone get the email today asking us to vote for fans player of the year? Interested to hear people's thoughts on it.
I voted for Digne. Not the obvious choice, and I was scrolling through to vote for Watkins. But I have been very impressed with Digne all season and especially in light of the fact he was on his way out at the end of the summer window and ended up having to stay. My understanding is that he did actually want to go home to France, but his attitude has been superb despite that. Also he really stepped up in Moreno's absence and even since Moreno's return, he's been excellent whether starting or coming off the bench. I know Moreno is injured again at the moment, but arguably Digne is the first choice in that position based on form.
Anyway, that's my 10 cents worth. Anyone else want to chime in? Not looking for people to start fighting with one another, but it feels like a season where there's a case to be made for an awful lot of players, which is pretty exciting.
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Lots of players have had great seasons. Tough to choose between Ollie, SJM and Emi for me.
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Ollie Watkins has been superb. Done his job well.
Digne has been very good, so has SJM and Luiz.
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That’s a decent call on Digne
Will more than likely be Ollie, but Emi, Ezri and Pau could be in with a shout, too
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Digne is a good shout, one of a fair few unsung heroes this season.
Could be anyone from a long list, my personal choice is Emi Martinez. He has been so consistent this season and has saved us plenty of points, whilst also retaining the ball for a ridiculous amount of minutes.
Ollie will win it though,
Honourable mentions too for Konsa, SJM, Dougie Luiz
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Emi Buendia.
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Not one mention of Leon?
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Another good shout.
Most improved player?
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I voted for Watkins but I can think of maybe 7 others who have been consistently very good - Emi, Konsa, Torres, Digne, Luiz, McGinn, Bailey
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1) Ollie
2) Bailey
3) McGinn
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Not had the email has it gone to all ST holders ?
Watkins
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Not one mention of Leon?
1) Ollie
2) Bailey
3) McGinn
Sorry, huge oversight not to mention Bailey.
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1) Ollie
2) Bailey
3) McGinn
Luiz surely a better season than Bailey and McGinn? Bailey had a rotten start to the season and McGinn was mixed enough for a while.
No doubt on the number one this season, has to be Ollie. Maybe Martinez 2. Most improved, Bailey. Disappointment, Zaniolo unfortunately. Diaby hasn't quite delivered like a 50m player should be either (but not all bad).
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Only Emi could challenge Ollie for player of the season really.
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Given Ollie should probably win Player of the Season for the whole league, it's hard to find a reason why he wouldn't win it at club level.
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A pity we don't have any outstanding candidate for young player. Seems a bit daft that it would be Rogers given he's barely been here three months, but Duran is the only competitor I can think of.
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So many players that would have won it most of the last 10 years, but it can only be Watkins this season.
Rogers for young player, which is hard on Duran who has been decent.
Emi for best Goalie in the universe award.
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Only Emi could challenge Ollie for player of the season really.
SJM has driven this team forward when those around him have given up.
For somebody that never wanted to be captain, my god, he's really led by example.
Honourable mentions to:
Watkins - goals scored and a brilliant second half of the season; first wasn't too shabby either.
Martinez - we take him for granted but he's kept us in so many games.
Konsa - demonstrated maturity and leadership all season that nobody expected he had.
The spine of the team right there.
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1). Ollie
2). Emi
3). Bailey
Special mentions for Konsa and McGinn.
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1). Ollie
2). Emi
3). Bailey
Special mentions for Konsa and McGinn.
That’s mine, but with Emi & Bailey joint second, the same special mentions and my boy Morgz for young player.
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1). Ollie
2). Emi
3). Bailey
Special mentions for Konsa and McGinn.
That’s mine, but with Emi & Bailey joint second, the same special mentions and my boy Morgz for young player.
I genuinely marvel every time I watch Martinez and realize we have the best player in the world in his position. I think he will probably never win an award like this because he’s just too good and has normalised being world class.
Ollie has just gone up the levels so much and been really so consistent. He holds himself so differently now. He believes he is the player he’s become.
Bailey in a way is probably the most surprising one because after the first game of the season I thought this season would be it for him.
Rodgers is looking like a bona fide steal. I really enjoy watching him. He’s improvising so quickly it’s almost unbelievable.
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1). Ollie
2). Konsa
3). Bailey
Special mentions for Emi and McGinn.
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There are again a lot of contenders, a far cry from the days when Stephen Ireland and even Matty Cash won it due to a paucity of choice.
I am not usually one to plump for the goalscorers but the sheer volume of Watkins' goal contributions means it has to be him. All being well, he will achieve something that no Villa player has achieved for 42 years in the next few weeks too.
Honourable mentions to Bailey, Martinez, McGinn, Dougie, Digne and Bouba before his injury. Konsa probably would have figured too if he hadn't been shunted to right back so often.
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SJM for me, the most consistent player this season, has led the team brilliantly and played multiple roles.
The one player we can not afford to lose.
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Ollie Watkins for me. His development was stunted under Gerrard and it looked like he would forever be the guy getting 10-15 Goals a season never breaking through to be in the Golden Boot conversation. The last 18 months shows what world class coaching can do to someone who maybe has all the tools but isn’t in an environment that can deliver. All aspects of his game have improved and I actually think he can get better.
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Im going bailey
Most improved player from last year
Bit ollie will.win it
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Plenty of contenders. I think id go -
Ollie
Emi
Bailey
But you could make a case for SJM, Doug, Digne.
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I got it and voted Oliie, but was very close with Emi and then Bailey 3rd in my mind.
A striker with so many goal involvements had to pip it IMO, I'm so hopeful he manages to get over the 20 before the end of the season!
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I voted Ollie but there was much more competition than there usually is.
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Bailey had a rotten start to the season.
Is it me or you completely misremembering his start to the season? Diaby started more than him, sure, but Bailey played himself into the starting lineup, scoring quite a few goals. That’s how I remember it. He’s had a very good season.
Difficult to look past Ollie though, even though it’s a bigger pool to choose from for a change.
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I voted for Ollie.
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Big Emi.
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Got to be Ollie, but probably the most telling thing is second and third place, you could make a good case for almost all the players we've used this season.
Seems weird to be picking one person (incredible though their season may have been) when so many have been so good.
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Ollie for me. Goals and Assists galore. Best forward since Yorke.
Horrible player to play against currently.
Bailey most improved and total joy to watch.
SJM Luiz and Emi largely top class. Digne, Konsa and Torres all vital too.
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I voted Ollie, his game has moved onto the next level and his goal contributions speak for themself.
Bailey has been absolutely superb, our most creative player and always seems the most likely to turn a game.
Luiz, it's a shame he got his suspension and has dropped very slightly in his last few games. For me he's probably our best outfield player and has still had an excellent season. One of two players in the squad who is potentially world-class.
Martinez has been unbelievable yet again. I reckon we'd be 6 or 7th with an 'average' keeper. Not just world-class, but the best in the world.
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Ollie's got it in the bag so I voted for Bailey in the hope that he gets 2nd.
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I too voted for Leon. A fantastic turnaround in form.
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Ollie
Bailey/Emi
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Players player i can see it being Konsa or Martinez .
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Players player i can see it being Konsa or Martinez .
If Watkins doesn't get players' player, I think he'd have the right hump.
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Martinez for me - if we win something this year it will, in no small measure, be down to his performances in both legs against Lille
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Voted for Luiz, he was our best player by a mile for the first 6 months & still would be if he was playing in his best position.
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Players player i can see it being Konsa or Martinez .
If Watkins doesn't get players' player, I think he'd have the right hump.
Dunno...his appreciation for "Ginny" was apparent in that recent video they both did together. Don't think he'd begrudge his big-bummed chum scoop that one.
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Anybody remember who got player of the season in 2015-16? No, me neither.
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Anybody remember who got player of the season in 2015-16? No, me neither.
Micah Richards
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Anybody remember who got player of the season in 2015-16? No, me neither.
Micah Richards
And, unlike us, he found the whole thing hilarious.
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Bailey had a rotten start to the season.
Is it me or you completely misremembering his start to the season? Diaby started more than him, sure, but Bailey played himself into the starting lineup, scoring quite a few goals. That’s how I remember it. He’s had a very good season.
Difficult to look past Ollie though, even though it’s a bigger pool to choose from for a change.
He was subbed on and off against Liverpool and most of this forum wanted him sold! I think it might have been after the Fulham home game that he kicked into gear for us. Emery was quite critical of his away performances for some time but I recall him being outstanding in Alkamaar for one. So it definitely took time for Bailey to hit his best form.
During that time likes of Watkins, Luiz and McGinn were running the show for us. That Fulham home game for example McGinn was sensational, Paulinha was being linked with Bayern at the time and McGinn ran all over him! Possibly out best individual performance of the season.
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I went for Leon in the end.
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Konsa probably would have figured too if he hadn't been shunted to right back so often.
Agreed, not his fault. He struggled badly without Mings in the early games but settled down to form a solid partnership with Torres, remember how strong our offside line was at one point.
Moving him to RB did impact his form and our defence generally. He is rotten at RB
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I know who I'd vote as most annoying H&V poster.
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I know who I'd vote as most annoying H&V poster.
Much like the team it's a competitive field.
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Which fan has been voted player of the year?
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Martinez or Watkins for me.
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Aston Villa
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Pau for me, think he’s so important to how we play and how we’ve stepped up a level this year
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Bailey had a rotten start to the season.
Is it me or you completely misremembering his start to the season? Diaby started more than him, sure, but Bailey played himself into the starting lineup, scoring quite a few goals. That’s how I remember it. He’s had a very good season.
Difficult to look past Ollie though, even though it’s a bigger pool to choose from for a change.
He was subbed on and off against Liverpool and most of this forum wanted him sold! I think it might have been after the Fulham home game that he kicked into gear for us. Emery was quite critical of his away performances for some time but I recall him being outstanding in Alkamaar for one. So it definitely took time for Bailey to hit his best form.
During that time likes of Watkins, Luiz and McGinn were running the show for us. That Fulham home game for example McGinn was sensational, Paulinha was being linked with Bayern at the time and McGinn ran all over him! Possibly out best individual performance of the season.
He’d already scored 6 goals by the Fulham home game. He’s easily been one of our best players this season.
Watkins
Luiz
Bailey
In that order, for me.
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1st Ollie, 2nd Emi, 3rd Leon.
Young player: 1st Rogers, 2nd Duran, 3rd Rodgers.
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What a year when multiple people have an argument for PotY. My own rankings:
1) Watkins - #3 in the league in goals scored and #1 in assists. If he played for Man City, he'd likely be the runaway winner for Player of the Season.
2) Martinez - A close second behind Ollie and a true world-class keeper.
3) Bailey - Definitely most improved player of the year. I haven't sat up in my seat with excitement like I do every time the ball reaches his feet, since Ashley Young played for us the first time around.
4) Luiz - A bit of a drop off after the first three, but when Luiz is on his game he looks like one of the best midfielders in the world.
5) McGinn - Not as polished as Luiz, but when he's on his game, I feel like we don't lose. As he goes, the team goes.
6) Konza - Really stepped up as a Central Defender and made a name for himself once Mings went down. Unfortunately, he's been pushed to RB more often than not, and he's not quite as adept there.
7) Torres - Looking at this list, I can't believe I have him 7th. It seems like the defense loses something when he's not in there.
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It's an indicator of what an excellent side we've become that people are mentioning anybody but Ollie.
It's obviously going to be him that wins (and rightfully so, in my opinion) but as has been said many times, it feels harsh on the likes of Martinez, Konsa, Pau, Kamara, Dougie, SJM, Bailey.
We just have a bounty of riches, and long may it continue!
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Konsa probably would have figured too if he hadn't been shunted to right back so often.
Agreed, not his fault. He struggled badly without Mings in the early games but settled down to form a solid partnership with Torres, remember how strong our offside line was at one point.
Moving him to RB did impact his form and our defence generally. He is rotten at RB
He's not rotten at right back at all. He's done ok there when called upon.
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Konsa probably would have figured too if he hadn't been shunted to right back so often.
Agreed, not his fault. He struggled badly without Mings in the early games but settled down to form a solid partnership with Torres, remember how strong our offside line was at one point.
Moving him to RB did impact his form and our defence generally. He is rotten at RB
He's not rotten at right back at all. He's done ok there when called upon.
Played right back when we beat Ci£eh and both Arsenal games, so not too rotten at right back.
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Yeah this idea that Konsa at right back is some disaster, Unai's 'Reo-Coker' moment of madness, is such a red herring. He had a bad game against Spurs there, but everyone had a bad game that day.
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Yeah this idea that Konsa at right back is some disaster, Unai's 'Reo-Coker' moment of madness, is such a red herring. He had a bad game against Spurs there, but everyone had a bad game that day.
Did pretty well against Vicinius there for England too.
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Got to be Ollie. Not often we have someone vying for the golden boot. Into double figures for assists too. His all round game is pretty much at elite level now. Never gets injured either. His durability is incredible.
1 - Watkins
2 - McGinn
3 - Martinez
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Yeah this idea that Konsa at right back is some disaster, Unai's 'Reo-Coker' moment of madness, is such a red herring. He had a bad game against Spurs there, but everyone had a bad game that day.
He was atrocious against Brentford as well. Worst player on the pitch.
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But has generally been very good.
I mean, I do find it amazing that some won't hear a word against Cash (who I love! But who has had a good handful of dodgy performances this year!), but make up their minds about Konsa at right-back and then don't accept any evidence to the contrary. All about opinions of course, as they say, I just can't fathom what other people are watching sometimes.
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He's had some solid games at right back, but too many when he's not very good, and he doesn't have Cash's ability to get forward. He's an excellent centre back, and I just feel like we lose out twice when he's at right back.
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His job is to not get forward as much as Cash, it's literally the reason for the selection. He mostly does the shuffling-over-to-make-a-third-CB thing.
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His job is to not get forward as much as Cash, it's literally the reason for the selection. He mostly does the shuffling-over-to-make-a-third-CB thing.
I know that. It's part of the reason we don't look as good when he plays there.
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Apart from [gestures at all the wins] ;)
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My vote goes to Ollie, should also be in contention for Premier League player.