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Title: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 28, 2024, 09:32:46 PM
https://youtu.be/JUcdmMLYfeQ?si=HQo3Nk3mkJIrpcom

89-90 was the last time we got 70+ points and over 20 league wins from a 38 game season and we beat Arsenal twice that year as well. Great team and kit and call me daft but I loved Villa Park as it looked back then, particularly once the fences came down.
What a player David Platt was. I've got a canvas of him in this kit. That particular week we beat  Man United,  Arsenal and Chelsea - in those days Chelsea were shit so history sure has come full circle.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 28, 2024, 10:12:21 PM
I still can't believe Derek Mountfield wasn't offside for the second goal but then I remember it was against that obnoxious Arsenal defence.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 29, 2024, 12:41:33 AM
Virtually the whole Arse team surrounded the ref after that goal.

A shame they didn't throw them out of the league for blatant intimidation of the referee.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 29, 2024, 07:23:49 AM
My missus watchd it and she pointed out how many times the ref would probably blow the whistle now for some of the physical play you see in the clip. No one lying on the floor clutching their legs dying.

Graham Taylor won three consecutive manager of the month awards, Platty won PFA Player of the Year. Just a marvellous tine to be a Villa fan.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: usav on April 29, 2024, 07:46:50 PM
That was 3 days after we beat United at home 3-0 on boxing day....wonderful times.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 02, 2024, 11:05:15 AM
Rewatching the tape we clearly missed Mountfield at the back when he got injured and the goals - as they did in 1993 - just dried up. What a season that was though. That spell vs Wimbledon and Coventry really did screw us.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 02, 2024, 11:56:24 PM
Yep, the three centre-back system really went well with that group of players. When Derek got injured, SGT went back to a 4-4-2 which didn't go so well.

Typical of the Great Man, he admitted that he had only come across the 'three' by accident. Most bosses would probably have kept their traps shut, allowing the media to declare their geniuses to the world. Not Graham.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 03, 2024, 12:02:36 PM
Imagine David Platt in our team now playing behind Watkins......
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 03, 2024, 06:16:59 PM
Imagine David Platt in our team now playing behind Watkins......
If Platt was in the current team we'd also need Sid to see every single run he made.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 04, 2024, 09:05:34 PM
‘Hand it over hand it over hand it over Arsenal.’
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Pete3206 on May 06, 2024, 07:42:17 PM
That was 3 days after we beat United at home 3-0 on boxing day....wonderful times.

A few days after, we murdered Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. 
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on June 06, 2024, 09:18:45 PM
Every time Tony Daley got the ball there was no-one sitting down at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on June 07, 2024, 12:41:37 AM
There's something special about diminutive, pacey players getting the ball out wide, happy to take defenders on. It always seems to get the crowd going.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: usav on June 07, 2024, 02:27:11 PM
I still can't believe Derek Mountfield wasn't offside for the second goal but then I remember it was against that obnoxious Arsenal defence.

Just watched it again to see how - look at Winterburn (3), rather than running straight up, he ran at an angle across the back line.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: ventnorVillain on June 07, 2024, 04:33:36 PM
If we beat Man. Utd. Arsenal and Chelsea in the space of less than a week with a cumulative score of 8-1 in our favour now, Sky would go into a meltdown. I went to all three games. Exciting times. The KO for the Boxing Day game was put back IIRC due to the number of people trying to get in. This was only a few months after Hillsborough, so I guess caution was the watchword.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 07, 2024, 09:42:55 PM
I have a vague memory of the Boxing Day game being either an 11:00am or 11:30am kick off.

Edit: It was originally a midday kick off and was delayed by 15 minutes according to this Guardian retrospective.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/that-1980s-sports-blog/2022/jan/14/manchester-united-alex-ferguson-ralf-rangnick-humbled
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 08, 2024, 02:50:46 PM
https://youtu.be/arND1ZN9unY?si=ZNOyJqsfq4jxUDtH
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on July 16, 2024, 08:27:34 PM
That was 3 days after we beat United at home 3-0 on boxing day....wonderful times.
They really were...I was lucky to be stood on Holte Lower for both games..the Arsenal game was a good contest from memory..the Utd game we toyed with them, they were awful, ran them ragged.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 21, 2024, 12:56:47 AM
That was the game where the United fans chanted, "We want Fergie out!" long and loud at the end.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 22, 2024, 10:13:36 PM
We beat Chelsea 3-0 away on New Year's Day, too. I remember thinking their goals looked like Subbuteo goals.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 22, 2024, 11:34:44 PM
Ha!

You've started a real controversy here, cdb; do you mean the crappy plastic 70s ones that kept breaking or the more robust 50s/60s efforts that had some metal in them?
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2024, 01:25:07 AM
I think the ones I had were eighties, sorry! It had Nigel Spink vs Watford on the box.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2024, 01:26:50 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/HTS3Zm7/bx-80sclubed29a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HTS3Zm7)

Found it online!
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2024, 01:42:14 AM
That has to be the FA Cup game but they did some editing on the Watford shirts.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 23, 2024, 01:54:21 AM
As a child I always wondered whether it went in or not. Now I know (about fifty seconds gone in video below).

Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2024, 02:00:16 AM
I was Upper Trinity for that game. I was convinced we were going to win the FA Cup after we won.
Title: Re: Villa - Arsenal 89-90
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 28, 2024, 12:22:48 AM
Yeah, I shared that feeling, if only on the basis I couldn't get over the fact we'd beaten Watford 'easily' when the score could have been about 6-6!
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