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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: olaftab on March 26, 2024, 10:39:46 PM
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Saturday 30 March 5:30PM
Villa Park.
Time to get moving again with our quest. This will be tough as they are a very useful team but I expect us to come through with 3 points.
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1-1
Last time we beat them at home in the Premier League JPA and Allback started. W0 D4 L3 since then.
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Big game, hope we can pull off a 2-1 win.
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3-1 us
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We should win, but probably won't. 1-1.
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We really need to get back to beating these lot consistently like we use to.
Spurs have luton which is more or less 3 points so we will need to win this one
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I'm just pleased that we are getting back to the proper football again.
Bloody international breaks are a pain.
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Need to win this one really, Luton may do us a favour vs Spurs but we need to win this.
Me and a few mates have paid for the Lower Grounds (Ducks head and prepares to run away) … has anyone else done it and is it any good?
We have done it as it was £60 upgrade on the season ticket so seemed good value as it’s a late kick off
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4-0 to Villa.
About time we smashed the Dogheads, its well overdue.
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They are a team who rely on pacy county attacks but have Neto and Hwang out. They will defend more and we should have enough. I’m going 2-0. Watkins and Bailey.
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I’m usually quite ambivalent about wolves - they’re an oddity more than anything more annoying - I know some on here feel quite a bit more strongly! But I don’t like their current manager very much and we really need to win so this one feels like a bigger game than usual.
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For some reason Wolfs seem to have a bit of a hex over us lately, I was talking to Nodge off of here yesterday and we worked out that the last time we beat them at home in the league was the 4-1 under Bruce (BB toe poke). We never seem to get outplayed or thrashed but even when we do play well we can't seen to convert it into 3 points.
It's time for that to change and ahead of an away game at Stockport 115, the win would be more than welcome. Late KO, boisterous atmosphere, and plenty to play for.
1-0
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I think Ramsey being available will be key for this game, if he plays I fancy us, if not I’m worried. The young Wolves wing back Ait-Nouri looked a real handful the other week against Coventry so need to keep a very careful eye on him. They’re going to be missing Neto and probably Hwang so that’s good for us.
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I dislike these dog head supporters. Nervously dreading this.
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About time we put our poor home form against them to bed, 2-1.
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Martinez
Konsa
Diego
Torres
Moreno
Dougie
Tielemans
Rogers
Bailey
Diaby
Watkins
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any type of win please Villa
UTV
The Doc
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Are Carlos & Lenglet fit?
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Timing feels good for this. We are much stronger than them. Comfortable Home win , 4-1.
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Really important to win this one.
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Martinez
Konsa
Diego
Torres
Moreno
Dougie
Tielemans
Rogers
Bailey
Diaby
Watkins
This is the strongest team we can put out right now, it looks pretty weak without the ball though.
Expect Wolves to be aggressive and counter attacking.
Tough game.
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I expect Wulvz to smell and be clad in shellsuits and Hi-Tec.
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Moreno hasnt found form still post injury, and I think we've looked more balanced and threatening with cash and digne playing recently.
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Based on who we have healthy, I’d like to see the line up be
MARTINEZ
KONSA
CARLOS
PAU
DIGNE
DOUG
TIELEMANS
ROGERS
DIABY
BAILEY
WATKINS
Subs: DURAN, JJ, MORENO, LENGLET, CHAMBERS, ZANIOLO, TIM, KHH, OLSEN
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Based on who we have healthy, I’d like to see the line up be
MARTINEZ
KONSA
CARLOS
PAU
DIGNE
DOUG
TIELEMANS
ROGERS
DIABY
BAILEY
WATKINS
Subs: DURAN, JJ, MORENO, LENGLET, CHAMBERS, ZANIOLO, TIM, KHH, OLSEN
I'd swop JJ for Rogers. Other than that I agree with that line up.
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I'd be surprised if Ramsey starts.
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I'd be surprised if Ramsey starts.
Me too but he did put him on the bench.
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I expect Wulvz to smell and be clad in shellsuits and Hi-Tec.
Snow-washed jeans and Mr Byrite denim jackets.
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Horse shit everywhere as well, fucking scrufs.
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It's a bit unfair, all this stuff about the Wulvs fans being embarrassingly antediluvian. Last time I was back we drove past the Molineux and I was struck by their intelligence and physical capability. It's not easy to complete a Rubik's Cube and eat a Vesta curry while riding a pogo stick.
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Bit of a bogey side for us these days.... 3pts is all that matters, don't care how we get em.
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With all our injuries I think we'll struggle and Wolves always always raise their game against us. 1-1
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Big game, but don't we say that every week. I'm hoping we channel the late kick off vibes from the match against them in 2018, another 4-1 will do nicely.
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Moreno hasnt found form still post injury, and I think we've looked more balanced and threatening with cash and digne playing recently.
No Cash though, although I agree that Digne performed really well at the start of the season in place of Moreno. My Wolvo boss reckons their right side is their weakest side so I can see Moreno doing them if he is on form.
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Only team Unai hasn't beaten in the League as Villa manager!
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Moreno hasnt found form still post injury, and I think we've looked more balanced and threatening with cash and digne playing recently.
No Cash though, although I agree that Digne performed really well at the start of the season in place of Moreno. My Wolvo boss reckons their right side is their weakest side so I can see Moreno doing them if he is on form.
Moreno isn't on form though, and hasn't been all season since he came back from injury.
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With Hwang and particularly Neto missing we wont have a much better chance of beating them. We have to win.
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Moreno hasnt found form still post injury, and I think we've looked more balanced and threatening with cash and digne playing recently.
No Cash though, although I agree that Digne performed really well at the start of the season in place of Moreno. My Wolvo boss reckons their right side is their weakest side so I can see Moreno doing them if he is on form.
Moreno isn't on form though, and hasn't been all season since he came back from injury.
Perfect time to come into form then!
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0-2.
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Moreno hasnt found form still post injury, and I think we've looked more balanced and threatening with cash and digne playing recently.
No Cash though, although I agree that Digne performed really well at the start of the season in place of Moreno. My Wolvo boss reckons their right side is their weakest side so I can see Moreno doing them if he is on form.
Forgot cash was out. Moreno and rogers together struggled against West ham, wonder if its worth digne playing there with him to help out. Moreno gives us more attacking impetus though, with konsa at right back
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Only team Unai hasn't beaten in the League as Villa manager!
Dont think he has beat liverpool either
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Only team Unai hasn't beaten in the League as Villa manager!
Liverpool?
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4-1 Villa.
FTF 8)
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I'd be surprised if Ramsey starts.
He has to if any way fit...our left side is a black hole without him. Does tend to take him a few games to get up to speed. Cash out is a big blow. Konsa RB again and Carlos in 😕
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No McGinn again forgot about that .
------ Martinez --------
Konsa Lenglet Torres Digne
--- Luiz ----- Tielemans--
Bailey ------------ Rodgers
--- Diaby ----- Watkins ---
Team is a bit Heath Robinson but we are down to bare bones in some areas.
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Has Ramsey’ s foot grown back yet?
We need all the midfielders who are available, available.
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Rogers and Diaby are both in form and high confidence so play them.
Zaniolo can come on from 65 mins and be effective. Not ideal but we have a decent squad and Emery will outclass O'Neill . Looking forwards to this game .
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Didn't O'Neil burst into tears or something last time we played them because Unai looked at him funny or something on the final whistle?
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Didn't O'Neil burst into tears or something last time we played them because Unai looked at him funny or something on the final whistle?
Yeah refused to shake his hand. Showed a level of immaturity that day. Was funny how Emery just brushed it off though , and rightly so.
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It's a bit unfair, all this stuff about the Wulvs fans being embarrassingly antediluvian. Last time I was back we drove past the Molineux and I was struck by their intelligence and physical capability. It's not easy to complete a Rubik's Cube and eat a Vesta curry while riding a pogo stick.
Whatever happened to pogosticks? Did they go the way of spacehoppers and Raleigh Choppers?
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It's a bit unfair, all this stuff about the Wulvs fans being embarrassingly antediluvian. Last time I was back we drove past the Molineux and I was struck by their intelligence and physical capability. It's not easy to complete a Rubik's Cube and eat a Vesta curry while riding a pogo stick.
Whatever happened to pogosticks? Did they go the way of spacehoppers and Raleigh Choppers?
They're still widely available in Codsall and surrounding areas, although the prediction is that next Christmas all the local kids will be demanding Cabbage Patch dolls.
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Pogosticks are an alternative public transport in the black country. They are like our version of e-scooters.
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It's a bit unfair, all this stuff about the Wulvs fans being embarrassingly antediluvian. Last time I was back we drove past the Molineux and I was struck by their intelligence and physical capability. It's not easy to complete a Rubik's Cube and eat a Vesta curry while riding a pogo stick.
Whatever happened to pogosticks? Did they go the way of spacehoppers and Raleigh Choppers?
They're still widely available in Codsall and surrounding areas, although the prediction is that next Christmas all the local kids will be demanding Cabbage Patch dolls.
It was around this time that the levels of hysteria around the Kentish Town Road caused a warping of the space/time continuum and I found myself face to face with a version of myself from 15 years earlier, when I'd lived in the area. "Greetings indie legend", said I. "Fuck off sad bell-end", came the reply. I wanted to warn him about the rough times ahead but for some reason he had his coat pulled over his head and wouldn't listen. I left him trying to extricate a punctured Spacehopper from under some rubble in a skip. "He'll find out soon enough", I thought.
And then suddenly I realised that I could no longer breathe.
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No neto and kwan for them. We really need to be looking fir 3 points here ffs. No more crappy home performances against them.
Its so odd that we have gone from making villa park being a fortress to teams coming here and beating us comfortably.
Really need to sort this out asap as its our achilles heel lately
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Has Ramsey’ s foot grown back yet?
We need all the midfielders who are available, available.
He's inching towards full fitness.
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When I first saw Ait-Nouri I thought he was great and I've been impressed every time I see him play. I don't usually get involved in speculation on who we should buy but as an left sided option I'd go for him.
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When I first saw Ait-Nouri I thought he was great and I've been impressed every time I see him play. I don't usually get involved in speculation on who we should buy but as an left sided option I'd go for him.
Agree with that, remember first seeing Andy Robertson at Hull and thinking the same, around the time we were playing such luminaries as Kieran Richardson and Aly Cissokho in that role.
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Yeah I like Ait-Nouri as well.
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Seems like a few of our casualties like JJ and Diego back at it for training today.
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773313357715509573?s=46
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When I first saw Ait-Nouri I thought he was great and I've been impressed every time I see him play. I don't usually get involved in speculation on who we should buy but as an left sided option I'd go for him.
I’ve seen quite a bit of him as my other half is a Dingle, and every time I’ve seen him play he’s been outstanding. Like him alot.
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Seems like a few of our casualties like JJ and Diego back at it for training today.
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773313357715509573?s=46
All I deduce from that clip is that Diego is a UNIT.
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Seems like a few of our casualties like JJ and Diego back at it for training today.
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773313357715509573?s=46
All I deduce from that clip is that Diego is a UNIT.
What’s the homeless person doing sat by the fence? I thought SUE would have at least offered to buy him a sandwhich.
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Seems like a few of our casualties like JJ and Diego back at it for training today.
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773313357715509573?s=46
All I deduce from that clip is that Diego is a UNIT.
A beast as some might say.
This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
His new red shoes should do no harm although an old school coach over here once said that "football is to played in black and white (football)shoes" - that was in the nineties when someone in the team he managed came with yellow shoes (not that usual then) and that has no relevance these days but some statement though.
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
His new red shoes should do no harm although an old school coach over here once said that "football is to played in black and white (football)shoes" - that was in the nineties when someone in the team he managed came with yellow shoes (not that usual then) and that has no relevance these days but some statement though.
I was always an Adidas World Cup/ Copa Mundial man myself but did buy a ridiculous pair of bright green Nike once, the ones with the laces off to the side, as they were half price. I felt fucking ridiculous wearing them though and went into every game feeling like I deserved a reducer as a result. Plus, they were garbage to wear too, I switched back pretty quickly.
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
His new red shoes should do no harm although an old school coach over here once said that "football is to played in black and white (football)shoes" - that was in the nineties when someone in the team he managed came with yellow shoes (not that usual then) and that has no relevance these days but some statement though.
Boots
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
His new red shoes should do no harm although an old school coach over here once said that "football is to played in black and white (football)shoes" - that was in the nineties when someone in the team he managed came with yellow shoes (not that usual then) and that has no relevance these days but some statement though.
Boots
Considering his recent injuries i would like to see him wearing cast iron deep sea diving boots
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3-0 to us feeling confident with this one
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Apologies, I’ll be making a rare appearance at VP, which usually means certain defeat.
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This is our JJ though hopefully at least on the bench tomorrow
https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1773338893288390750?s=46
And should be able to start on Saturday. ;)
His new red shoes should do no harm although an old school coach over here once said that "football is to played in black and white (football)shoes" - that was in the nineties when someone in the team he managed came with yellow shoes (not that usual then) and that has no relevance these days but some statement though.
I was always an Adidas World Cup/ Copa Mundial man myself but did buy a ridiculous pair of bright green Nike once, the ones with the laces off to the side, as they were half price. I felt fucking ridiculous wearing them though and went into every game feeling like I deserved a reducer as a result. Plus, they were garbage to wear too, I switched back pretty quickly.
I remember receiving a pair of Alan Ball white boots when I was a kid. Quite radical back in those days. I also remember them being pretty crap to be honest.
I managed to make the Aston Boys school trials and begged my mother to buy me an alternate pair that wasn't so flash. I ended up with a pair of Gola boots from Dick Taylors. Pleased to say that I passed my trial and went on to captain the side. 8)
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I think this game is incredibly important. In all likelihood we’ll start the game in 5th and we’re at Citeh away in the week. We really need to win this and ideally win it well to get confidence in our performance levels back up.
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Apologies, I’ll be making a rare appearance at VP, which usually means certain defeat.
Don’t do it! They are a big enough jinx on us lately without anymore problems! ;)
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god damnit, Paul Tierney has been given the whistle again. Absolute prick.
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Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers preview: Team news, head-to-head and stats - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68644067
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I’m currently sat on the next table to Jose Sa (Wolves keeper) in a soft play centre in Wombourne. Be a shame if I tumbled, fell on him and broke his fingers.
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Unai's thoughts, sounds like JJ's touch and go.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/29/the-presser--emery-s-views-on-facing-wolves/
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I’m currently sat on the next table to Jose Sa (Wolves keeper) in a soft play centre in Wombourne. Be a shame if I tumbled, fell on him and broke his fingers.
Are there many Villa in Wombourne? I thought it was wall to wall dogheads from Wall Heath.
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I can see us beating Wolves and get back to winning ways 2-1.
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Didn't O'Neil burst into tears or something last time we played them because Unai looked at him funny or something on the final whistle?
Yeah refused to shake his hand. Showed a level of immaturity that day. Was funny how Emery just brushed it off though , and rightly so.
There is something very annoying about him, grinning at the question about him being linked with the Manure and Pool jobs.
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I’m currently sat on the next table to Jose Sa (Wolves keeper) in a soft play centre in Wombourne. Be a shame if I tumbled, fell on him and broke his fingers.
Are there many Villa in Wombourne? I thought it was wall to wall dogheads from Wall Heath.
Yeah it’s pretty much all Wolves, further South you go towards Kingswinford then Stourbridge you get more of a mix, with plenty Stripeys and Villa.
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I've been out of the loop the last few weeks, remind me, is Konsa banned? Or is that in Europe? Or did I make it up? Same question for McGinn.
Only just seeing that Cash is out injured. I know many don't rate him, but it's a position we haven't any real depth in.
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I've been out of the loop the last few weeks, remind me, is Konsa banned? Or is that in Europe? Or did I make it up? Same question for McGinn.
Only just seeing that Cash is out injured. I know many don't rate him, but it's a position we haven't any real depth in.
McGinn is suspended for tomorrow (and Citeh). Konsa isn't, so may well replace Matty at RB.
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For whatever reason I've been and still feel confident about this one , we are better than them in every department even with this players out . Enjoy this one villains .
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I don't know what it is about this lot in the years since they had Nuno. Aside from the 4-1 they always seem to have our number.
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I've been out of the loop the last few weeks, remind me, is Konsa banned? Or is that in Europe? Or did I make it up? Same question for McGinn.
Only just seeing that Cash is out injured. I know many don't rate him, but it's a position we haven't any real depth in.
McGinn is suspended for tomorrow (and Citeh). Konsa isn't, so may well replace Matty at RB.
Ah, that's not so bad then.
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They will play a low, low block and try to hit us on the counter.
If we score early on, they will have to adapt; otherwise it will be a tortuous evening.
Anyway, we will win.
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Likely to be tough game this one. They keep managing to get good results against us.
However, we could really do with a win and be aiming for 9 points in 8 days...
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However, we could really do with a win and be aiming for 9 points in 8 days...
I'd (very) happily take 6 points from the next 3 games. Think it's more likely to be 4 points.
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Does seem like a decent time to play Wolves. No Neto, Hwang or Dawson and Cunha in a similar situation to Ramsey, where he could be involved, but not match fit.
Feel strangely confident.
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Injury lists for both sides seem fairly equitable. Bit of a bogey side for us of late, fancy it will end up all square.
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However, we could really do with a win and be aiming for 9 points in 8 days...
I'd (very) happily take 6 points from the next 3 games. Think it's more likely to be 4 points.
Hope for 9.
Take 6.
Happy enough with 5 (given what results that means)
Disappointed 4
Worry 3
Gutted any less than 3
Wheels off, engine exploded 0
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However, we could really do with a win and be aiming for 9 points in 8 days...
I'd (very) happily take 6 points from the next 3 games. Think it's more likely to be 4 points.
Hope for 9.
Take 6.
Happy enough with 5 (given what results that means)
Disappointed 4
Worry 3
Gutted any less than 3
Wheels off, engine exploded 0
An accurate spectrum of points-to-emotion ratio.
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Take 6? To be honest I’d be delighted with 6. Today is massive, we really do need to win and ideally play well. It’s never easy against them, but Neto, Hwang, and Dawson are big losses for them. That said, if Cunha is back he’s been good for them. Come on Villa, big performance and result today please.
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Really could have done with SJM for this one. I've had 2-2 in my head all week. A Luiz Penalty and Bailey for us. Bull and Mutch for them.
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2-0. Digne and Watkins.
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We've got to be beating Wolves and Brentford at home in the next three games. Anything less probably means we won't be finishing top 4, and depending on what Man U do, might make even top 5 less likely.
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We've got to be beating Wolves and Brentford at home in the next three games. Anything less probably means we won't be finishing top 4, and depending on what Man U do, might make even top 5 less likely.
Yep. There will probably be a couple of surprise results for the teams in the top 6 (see Fulham battering spurs) but now is the time that the teams that finish in the top 4 stop dropping points and start grinding wins out.
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Hoping we are close to getting some players back fit after the break. Could have done without Cash getting injured.
Think we will win this one, and we need to with harder games coming up. 2-0 Watkins and Tielemans.
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Biggest game of the season so far and absolutely will let us know if we have the chops for the CL. This is the sort of game we would be looking at winning in any case. I think we will, a hard fought 3-1 I'm saying
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Biggest game of the season so far and absolutely will let us know if we have the chops for the CL. This is the sort of game we would be looking at winning in any case. I think we will, a hard fought 3-1 I'm saying
I agree that it's massive. I fear we'll bottle it.
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Biggest game of the season so far and absolutely will let us know if we have the chops for the CL. This is the sort of game we would be looking at winning in any case. I think we will, a hard fought 3-1 I'm saying
I agree that it's massive. I fear we'll bottle it.
Me too. But I'm so conditioned to thinking that, I'd probably still think it if we were joint owned by every petro-fascist in the world and had a squad worth a gazillion quid.
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Biggest game of the season so far and absolutely will let us know if we have the chops for the CL. This is the sort of game we would be looking at winning in any case. I think we will, a hard fought 3-1 I'm saying
I agree that it's massive. I fear we'll bottle it.
Me too. But I'm so conditioned to thinking that, I'd probably still think it if we were joint owned by every petro-fascist in the world and had a squad worth a gazillion quid.
Same!
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1-2/3 wolves, who seem to have the sign over us, as injuries and games played really start to bite.
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It’s like every league game now is massive.
Better than mid table mediocrity or worse checking over our shoulders at the relegation zone I guess.
Might have a pre match nerves pint.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1774043900149223930?t=6G1bu8lZJWEFDZFq2FoX9Q&s=19
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Spurs will almost certainly be above us at the start of this game, and with Citeh away next there’s loads of pressure. Hope we are ready to rise to it.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1774043900149223930?t=6G1bu8lZJWEFDZFq2FoX9Q&s=19
Disgrace!
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Right off to Aston we go. Huge game this.
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Unai Emery's programme notes: "I don't like the word pressure. Pressure is what the teams feel to avoid relegation or even, in everyday life, the real pressure is what every family feels to get income to raise a family. We don't have pressure. We have an opportunity
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Unai Emery's programme notes: "I don't like the word pressure. Pressure is what the teams feel to avoid relegation or even, in everyday life, the real pressure is what every family feels to get income to raise a family. We don't have pressure. We have an opportunity
This should be written on a wall somewhere famous.
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Unai Emery's programme notes: "I don't like the word pressure. Pressure is what the teams feel to avoid relegation or even, in everyday life, the real pressure is what every family feels to get income to raise a family. We don't have pressure. We have an opportunity
Also. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1774098543537459320
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Biggest game of the season so far and absolutely will let us know if we have the chops for the CL. This is the sort of game we would be looking at winning in any case. I think we will, a hard fought 3-1 I'm saying
I agree that it's massive. I fear we'll bottle it.
Me too. But I'm so conditioned to thinking that, I'd probably still think it if we were joint owned by every petro-fascist in the world and had a squad worth a gazillion quid.
Even if, with that squad, we’d already mathematically won the league, I’d still be worried we’d somehow fuck it up.
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I can't watch a re-run of the 1982 European Cup Final, for fear that Bayern will score a late equaliser and take the game into ET.