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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on February 19, 2024, 02:18:26 PM
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Saturday 24th, kick-off 3pm.
Time to get the home form back on track.
Pau back, Ollie scoring again, JJ getting back into form.
3-1 Villa.
FTF 8)
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It'll be tougher than expected but going for a 2-1 home win. Hope I'm wrong and we trounce them. 8)
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I'd love a clean sheet and a few tasty goals either side of half time.
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I reckon we will win 2-0.
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I reckon we will win 2-0.
That will do me.
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This is a must-win game for me! My brother supports Forest and I'll never hear the last of it if they take even a point!
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After the really scratchy away game at the City Ground, we should be really hyped up to put this game to bed. Lenglet and Torres will get more pressure from Forest's large No.9 than Fulham managed and they will be no pushover, IMHO.
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Despite the injuries, the first eleven we can put is out is really good. We've played well in the last two games, and so we need to reclaim the excellent early season home form. 3-0 Villa.
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They're not near the same form they were when we last played them. That said, they have more than most exposed our high line so we need to be on our toes. I think we have too much up top for then to be taking the game to us and I expect we will win quite comfortably.
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Need to win this as i think Fulham might get a something at Mold Trafford.
We owe these after a poor show at their place - i think we will have our tails up and first goal is critical
We need the early version of SUE team that was out the traps like a scolded dog and put them to bed early
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For some reason I think this will be close. 2-1 us.
(Bailey, Watkins)
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We'll batter them.
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Just like they did at their place, they’ll sit back and try and hit us on the break.
It’s what the majority of teams will do and have been doing to us so a quick start is vital to bring them out.
I’ll go for a 3-0 win with an early goal from Ramsey, another before half time from Watkins and a much needed goal from Diaby in the second half.
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We'll batter them.
I hope you're right but I think they'll give us a real game. By all accounts they really battered West Ham at the weekend and it could quite easily have been 5-0 rather than just 2-0. The word I keep hearing is 'aggressive', they fight for everything. We'll need to be ready for a battle and hope our forwards have their shooting boots on the right feet.
Expecting a very tough game but no excuses for anything other than a home win.
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They have some tidy forwards , I like Elanga wish we had picked him up
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They have some tidy forwards , I like Elanga wish we had picked him up
He's no Duran.
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Expecting a comfortable home win .
---------- Martinez -----------
Cash Torres Lenglet Moreno
---- McGinn --Luiz-----
Bailey ---- Tielemans -- Ramsey
---------- Watkins ---------
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Expecting a comfortable home win .
---------- Martinez -----------
Cash Torres Lenglet Moreno
---- McGinn -- Kamara -----
Bailey ---- Tielemans -- Ramsey
---------- Watkins ---------
We’ve got some seriously good medical staff.
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Expecting a comfortable home win .
---------- Martinez -----------
Cash Torres Lenglet Moreno
---- McGinn -- Kamara -----
Bailey ---- Tielemans -- Ramsey
---------- Watkins ---------
We’ve got some seriously good medical staff.
I hope so given Luiz is out injured now. :(
*Yes I know.
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Expecting a comfortable home win .
---------- Martinez -----------
Cash Torres Lenglet Moreno
---- McGinn -- Kamara -----
Bailey ---- Tielemans -- Ramsey
---------- Watkins ---------
We’ve got some seriously good medical staff.
I hope so given Luiz is out injured now. :(
*Yes I know.
Very good.😄
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Will be tough with Awoyini available for them, but we need to be winning this.
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We're fourth for a reason. They're fifteenth for a reason. Let's stop worrying about inferior teams.
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Not worried, more acknowledging they do carry a threat.
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They have some tidy forwards , I like Elanga wish we had picked him up
Agree One or two folk on here made that point.
Narrow win for Villa.
2.1
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0-2.
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We generally struggle against Nuno sides. 1-1.
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We're fourth for a reason. They're fifteenth for a reason. Let's stop worrying about inferior teams.
I know. It will be really fucking tough for them. They're babbling on about our high line as if it made a difference at their place, with 2 pot shots from distance and 11 men behind the ball all game. They're awful away from home. Let's marmalise these uppity twats.
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We need the first goal in this so we can take some time and draw them out. If we have to chase we could be a repeat of the away game. But although they are not on a massive form streak (lost 4 won 3 drawn 1), since Nuno came they seem to be on a goal scoring form so we do need to get a few to guarantee it.
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As I say they carry a threat, but with Pau I’m very confident. He will help us dominate the midfield and that will enable us to overrun them.
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We're fourth for a reason. They're fifteenth for a reason. Let's stop worrying about inferior teams.
I know. It will be really fucking tough for them. They're babbling on about our high line as if it made a difference at their place, with 2 pot shots from distance and 11 men behind the ball all game. They're awful away from home. Let's marmalise these uppity twats.
Marmalization for the Villa nation!
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Need someone to step up other than Watkins. They will sit in so space will be at a premium. One of Bailey or Ramsey to get us going.
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Need someone to step up other than Watkins. They will sit in so space will be at a premium. One of Bailey or Ramsey to get us going.
Comes down to the left side functioning or not as absolutely fantastic as Bailey has been. That ability of Moreno to push on and for JJ to run inside peels players away and gets JJ into the game. Torres ought to help massively. Albeit a goal through the middle him stepping out on Saturday got us that 2nd goal. I agree with you that they'll pack it tight between the lines, which is why I think the left will be key.
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Every game comes with a narrative these days, and so with Spurs not playing we have another "must win". The desire to finish as high as possible is further fuelled by the media seemingly looking the other way where we are concerned, not helped by the likes of Newton Heath spawning two lucky wins on consecutive Sundays.
The return of Torres, resurgence of JJ in tandem with Moreno, Ollie looking confident and Bailey playing well has dispelled a few doubts about how we cope without Kamara. But we did, and will, offer chances to the opposition and with Forest looking to hit us on the break I can see quite a few goals on Saturday. I have a feeling that we are beginning to get back "into the grove" and that leads me to predict a win.
3-2
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3-0 to us
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With the threat over relegation and a possible points deduction Forest will be up for this. It's probably their FA Cup final as well. We have to come out the traps fast, match their intensity and our extra quality will prevail. 3-1 to the boys in C & B.
Spuds, Man Utd, Chelsea, Geordies will all have their eyes on this and that 4th spot. Be great to p*ss them all off on the same day.
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They were EXTREMELY lucky to win against us at their place. Emi beaten from distance twice in one game? As rare as rocking horse shit. Plus we had the chances to score three or four, even against them parking the bus. We should have more than enough to beat them at home, even after our recent wobbles at VP.
Win and we go five points clear of 5th place, it's the perfect incentive. I also read somewhere in the last week or so, that Forest have benefitted more than any other team in the lea from subjective VAR decisions going in their favour (awarding/denying pens, fouls in the build-up to goals etc - not offside black/white stuff), so it would be nice to see us balance the books a bit with a nice subjective VAR decision going in our favour :-)
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Had a quick look at the form table, as it feels like we've been "off it" since Boxing Day, but I was surprised to see we're 6th for the last 6 games, and 5th for the last 10 games. So although we haven't maintained the form required to mount a title challenge, we've actually still been perfectly okay for a side with European aspirations.
If dropping to 5th/6th in the form table counts as our big "dip" for this season, then I'll be delighted!
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2-0
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They were EXTREMELY lucky to win against us at their place. Emi beaten from distance twice in one game? As rare as rocking horse shit. Plus we had the chances to score three or four, even against them parking the bus. We should have more than enough to beat them at home, even after our recent wobbles at VP.
Win and we go five points clear of 5th place, it's the perfect incentive. I also read somewhere in the last week or so, that Forest have benefitted more than any other team in the lea from subjective VAR decisions going in their favour (awarding/denying pens, fouls in the build-up to goals etc - not offside black/white stuff), so it would be nice to see us balance the books a bit with a nice subjective VAR decision going in our favour :-)
We were awful away. The only decent chance we had was the Watkins header he should have done better with. Other than that, I seem to recall a couple of very easy saves from Zaniolo and Diaby, but that was about it.
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Yeah, they were lucky in the sense that we were quite bad that day, objectively unusual for this season. They did play well though, perhaps their best display of the season. Hopefully we show up this time!
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Just had a look at the post match thread from the away game, it's ugly, not a positive to be found.
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They were EXTREMELY lucky to win against us at their place. Emi beaten from distance twice in one game? As rare as rocking horse shit. Plus we had the chances to score three or four, even against them parking the bus. We should have more than enough to beat them at home, even after our recent wobbles at VP.
Win and we go five points clear of 5th place, it's the perfect incentive. I also read somewhere in the last week or so, that Forest have benefitted more than any other team in the lea from subjective VAR decisions going in their favour (awarding/denying pens, fouls in the build-up to goals etc - not offside black/white stuff), so it would be nice to see us balance the books a bit with a nice subjective VAR decision going in our favour :-)
We were awful away. The only decent chance we had was the Watkins header he should have done better with. Other than that, I seem to recall a couple of very easy saves from Zaniolo and Diaby, but that was about it.
Yeah we were deservedly beaten at their place. We had a lot of the ball at 2-0 down but rarely looked threatening.
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Yeah, they were lucky in the sense that we were quite bad that day, objectively unusual for this season. They did play well though, perhaps their best display of the season. Hopefully we show up this time!
6 minutes, Elanga ran past Cash as if he wasn't there, squared the ball, no one closed down goal game over.
They then defended the penalty area, left their foot in a few times.
It was a pretty easy win, we had no idea hoe to get past the 11 behind the ball.
If we score first we win.
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To be fair, Martinez throwing one in after half time when we were getting up a head of steam killed us. They didn't attempt to play afterwards but we lacked that bit of guile to open them up on the day.
Hudson-Odoi seems to have woken up from his career hibernation, Elanga is a decent player and Awoniyi has the physicality to cause us our CBs problems. They will try to get stuck into us from the off so we need to be at it from the first whistle. I think we will do it though, 2-1.
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
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...Forest have benefitted more than any other team in the lea from subjective VAR decisions going in their favour (awarding/denying pens, fouls in the build-up to goals etc - not offside black/white stuff), so it would be nice to see us balance the books a bit with a nice subjective VAR decision going in our favour :-)
I understand the sentiment, but I'd much prefer it if VAR played zero part in this game (or any other game, to be honest).
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If we have another very marginal goal disallowed it's going to start looking very suspect.
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They were EXTREMELY lucky to win against us at their place. Emi beaten from distance twice in one game? As rare as rocking horse shit. Plus we had the chances to score three or four, even against them parking the bus. We should have more than enough to beat them at home, even after our recent wobbles at VP.
Win and we go five points clear of 5th place, it's the perfect incentive. I also read somewhere in the last week or so, that Forest have benefitted more than any other team in the lea from subjective VAR decisions going in their favour (awarding/denying pens, fouls in the build-up to goals etc - not offside black/white stuff), so it would be nice to see us balance the books a bit with a nice subjective VAR decision going in our favour :-)
We were awful away. The only decent chance we had was the Watkins header he should have done better with. Other than that, I seem to recall a couple of very easy saves from Zaniolo and Diaby, but that was about it.
Yeah we were deservedly beaten at their place. We had a lot of the ball at 2-0 down but rarely looked threatening.
It's strange, because I seem to remember Zaniolo having a really good headed chance after about 10 minutes, probably better than Olliie's, and thinking we should be level. Plus a couple of other headers in and around the box. None "guilt-edged" as such, but good enough to be doing a lot better.
Even though we played poorly by our standard, and them well by theirs, I still think they were incredibly lucky to win, given their two goals were from shots that far out. To get one of those go in a game is pretty rare. Two? Unheard of (unless you're playing us, apparently). Play that game ten times and we win 8 of them.
I'd be much more concerned if it felt like they'd "worked us out" that night. They're a different proposition under Nuno, but I have every confidence Unai will have us ready.
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It's not on PeacockTV. I was looking forward to watching it at my Miami beachfront house.
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It's not on PeacockTV. I was looking forward to watching it at my Miami beachfront house.
I'm probably missing a joke, but it most certainly will be on either Peacock or USA Network.
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It's not on PeacockTV. I was looking forward to watching it at my Miami beachfront house.
I'm probably missing a joke, but it most certainly will be on either Peacock or USA Network.
It's not listed on Peacock as one of the matches. Lots of other matches but not us.
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It's not on PeacockTV. I was looking forward to watching it at my Miami beachfront house.
I'm probably missing a joke, but it most certainly will be on either Peacock or USA Network.
It's not listed on Peacock as one of the matches. Lots of other matches but not us.
NBC Sports show every game, it’s part of the contract. It will be on one of the mediums I listed.
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It's not on PeacockTV. I was looking forward to watching it at my Miami beachfront house.
I'm probably missing a joke, but it most certainly will be on either Peacock or USA Network.
It's not listed on Peacock as one of the matches. Lots of other matches but not us.
NBC Sports show every game, it’s part of the contract. It will be on one of the mediums I listed.
So I can use my login to get NBC ?
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I just looked, the game is on USA Network, which is a NBC channel you get with your cable/satellite/streaming TV provider. So unless you have one of those, you are out of luck.
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FTF. Based on nothing, I'm going 6-1 Villa.
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We'll have to be well prepared for their transitions as they do have some threats in their team. We need to control the game and take our chances though.
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If we'd have got the first goal at theirs, we'd have won. They got that first one though and then defended like crazed demons afterwards. And fair play to them.
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It was a pretty easy win, we had no idea hoe to get past the 11 behind the ball.
If we score first we win.
Agree with this. If they score first a Nuno side will just sit back and be tough to break down.
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
I'm expecting a very energetic Forest side, they have some more than decent footballers there and Nuno has got them playing and believing. Expect them to try and press the shit out of us, they won't give us a second. We've struggled against those tactics recently so I'm hoping we will be more prepared.
I'm not sure it's the type of game for Tielemans as he can be a bit of a passenger, maybe better off the bench. I'd throw Big Tim in there to support Dougie (who needs to own the game) and SJM. Bailey should have fun up against former Benfica B and Arsenal bench warmer, Nuno Tavares. He's big and can run but Leon should be able to turn him inside out. As previously mentioned, Forest dominated West Ham at the weekend, they'll be confident and believing they can get something. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
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Don’t know if it’s ever been mentioned before but, apparently, Liverpool have some players that are injured!!
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Don’t know if it’s ever been mentioned before but, apparently, Liverpool have some players that are injured!!
They kept that quiet!
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They've won once in 8 games, last time out against a West Ham team devoid of any confidence whatsoever, and who had a man sent off. They've win 2 away games all season. Let's not build them up into something they're not.
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They've won once in 8 games, last time out against a West Ham team devoid of any confidence whatsoever, and who had a man sent off. They've win 2 away games all season. Let's not build them up into something they're not.
What was your score prediction to the Sheff Utd home game? ;)
I'm expecting a Villa win but I think it will be tougher than many are predicting.
EDIT: Just to add, Newcastle's away form was shocking prior to their visit to Villa Park. They came and pressed us hard to which we had no answer.
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They've won once in 8 games, last time out against a West Ham team devoid of any confidence whatsoever, and who had a man sent off. They've win 2 away games all season. Let's not build them up into something they're not.
What was your score prediction to the Sheff Utd home game? ;)
I'm expecting a Villa win but I think it will be tougher than many are predicting.
Exactly where I am.
Not sure how long Awoyini has been back, but he makes a massive difference.
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They've won once in 8 games, last time out against a West Ham team devoid of any confidence whatsoever, and who had a man sent off. They've win 2 away games all season. Let's not build them up into something they're not.
You need to look at your stats again. In the league, they have won 3 in the 8 since they changed managers. The first was 3-1 at Newcastle after being a goal down. They have also scored in every match, even the losses and seem to be a hit on the counter with speed team. This is truly a game that we can’t afford not to be prolific.
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
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3 0
Bailey
JJ
Zaniolo
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
Years of experience!
Even when we were 5-1 up against Brighton, I wasn't totally relaxed!
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I think we're all mentally damaged from the Villa in the past!
We somehow think it will all go wrong but Unai is turning that mindset around.
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I think we're all mentally damaged from the Villa in the past!
We somehow think it will all go wrong but Unai is turning that mindset around.
Very true. The big difference now is I'm so relaxed for the final minutes of a game. As I'm sure you're aware, that was never the case. Quite the opposite in fact and with good reason.
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
We were better than them before we played them earlier in the season.
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We ain't losing 4 home games on the bounce. No way Jose.
A great chance to put some distance between us and Tottenham too.
2-1 Villa.
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We ain't losing 4 home games on the bounce. No way Jose.
A great chance to put some distance between us and Tottenham too.
2-1 Villa.
Is it that bad? Dreadful stuff. All against a shower of wankers x 3.
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
We were better than them before we played them earlier in the season.
Let's just give up then, shall we? We're fourth in the league, the rest of the country is taking notice of us and we're worried about Nottingham Forest.
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Well no, I’m not sure anyone is saying we’ll lose are they? I think it’s more acknowledging they do have some tricky players to deal with. I think we’ll win, but I can imagine them putting up some stiff resistance initially.
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
We were better than them before we played them earlier in the season.
And looking at the massive points gap and goal difference gap, we still are miles better than them.
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
I'm expecting a very energetic Forest side, they have some more than decent footballers there and Nuno has got them playing and believing. Expect them to try and press the shit out of us, they won't give us a second. We've struggled against those tactics recently so I'm hoping we will be more prepared.
I'm not sure it's the type of game for Tielemans as he can be a bit of a passenger, maybe better off the bench. I'd throw Big Tim in there to support Dougie (who needs to own the game) and SJM. Bailey should have fun up against former Benfica B and Arsenal bench warmer, Nuno Tavares. He's big and can run but Leon should be able to turn him inside out. As previously mentioned, Forest dominated West Ham at the weekend, they'll be confident and believing they can get something. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
there's no way Emery drops Tielemans for Irogbunam.
Can't see beyond a comfortable home win .
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
I'm expecting a very energetic Forest side, they have some more than decent footballers there and Nuno has got them playing and believing. Expect them to try and press the shit out of us, they won't give us a second. We've struggled against those tactics recently so I'm hoping we will be more prepared.
I'm not sure it's the type of game for Tielemans as he can be a bit of a passenger, maybe better off the bench. I'd throw Big Tim in there to support Dougie (who needs to own the game) and SJM. Bailey should have fun up against former Benfica B and Arsenal bench warmer, Nuno Tavares. He's big and can run but Leon should be able to turn him inside out. As previously mentioned, Forest dominated West Ham at the weekend, they'll be confident and believing they can get something. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
there's no way Emery drops Tielemans for Irogbunam.
Can't see beyond a comfortable home win .
It's a perfect game to give Tim Iroegbunam a decent run-out ...
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
I'm expecting a very energetic Forest side, they have some more than decent footballers there and Nuno has got them playing and believing. Expect them to try and press the shit out of us, they won't give us a second. We've struggled against those tactics recently so I'm hoping we will be more prepared.
I'm not sure it's the type of game for Tielemans as he can be a bit of a passenger, maybe better off the bench. I'd throw Big Tim in there to support Dougie (who needs to own the game) and SJM. Bailey should have fun up against former Benfica B and Arsenal bench warmer, Nuno Tavares. He's big and can run but Leon should be able to turn him inside out. As previously mentioned, Forest dominated West Ham at the weekend, they'll be confident and believing they can get something. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
there's no way Emery drops Tielemans for Irogbunam.
Can't see beyond a comfortable home win .
It's a perfect game to give Tim Iroegbunam a decent run-out ...
It's a perfect game to play a seasoned Belgium International. No way Irogbunam gets ahead of him in the pecking order.
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Get 3 up and then give Tim 30 mins
Simples
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There's absolutely no way Tim is going to be starting league matches for some time, injuries not withstanding
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We're better than them. Why do we always worry?
We were better than them before we played them earlier in the season.
And looking at the massive points gap and goal difference gap, we still are miles better than them.
Right, but the question wasn’t, “are we better than them?”, it was “why worry?”. I don’t think it’s crazy to look back to the last game we played against them, see we lost, and not have a concern it’s a possibility - especially as they have their most influential player back. We are better and we should win, but that was true in the last game too. Hopefully we nail it this time.
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We only drew at home to Sheffield United and look how the return went.
We are playing well, we're 4th, we have a tremendous home record.
We should feel confident.
The Premier League can throw up all sorts of unexpected results, but usually it doesn't.
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Forest will sit deep and play on the counter, the sooner we score the sooner their game plan goes out the window.
I'm expecting a very energetic Forest side, they have some more than decent footballers there and Nuno has got them playing and believing. Expect them to try and press the shit out of us, they won't give us a second. We've struggled against those tactics recently so I'm hoping we will be more prepared.
I'm not sure it's the type of game for Tielemans as he can be a bit of a passenger, maybe better off the bench. I'd throw Big Tim in there to support Dougie (who needs to own the game) and SJM. Bailey should have fun up against former Benfica B and Arsenal bench warmer, Nuno Tavares. He's big and can run but Leon should be able to turn him inside out. As previously mentioned, Forest dominated West Ham at the weekend, they'll be confident and believing they can get something. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
there's no way Emery drops Tielemans for Irogbunam.
Can't see beyond a comfortable home win .
It's a perfect game to give Tim Iroegbunam a decent run-out ...
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t the same starting 11 as last week.
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Yeah, I can't see Iroegbunam starting. We'll want to put the game into a decent position first, then bring him on once Unai feels the job is mostly done.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
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Need to get that monkey off our backs and win this one get the home form back to where it was.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
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I can't see Tim starting any game this season unless we have to because of yet more injuries.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
It would be great to have that option as a direct replacement for Kamara, so hopefully Tim gets game time and is up to it.
but it wont be starting him Saturday.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
It would be great to have that option as a direct replacement for Kamara, so hopefully Tim gets game time and is up to it.
but it wont be starting him Saturday.
Nope, because it would be a big ask for him to come in and take on all the stuff Kamara brings to the team after playing about half an hour of senior football all season. All I was getting at is that it's a lot more complicated than a like-for-like swap.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
It would be great to have that option as a direct replacement for Kamara, so hopefully Tim gets game time and is up to it.
but it wont be starting him Saturday.
Nope, because it would be a big ask for him to come in and take on all the stuff Kamara brings to the team after playing about half an hour of senior football all season. All I was getting at is that it's a lot more complicated than a like-for-like swap.
I agree and we dont have any idea how good or able Tim is.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
This isn't Championship Manager on the PC.
The team is picking itself at the moment and you don't leave senior Belgium international players on the bench to give a Rookie a go. Ridiculous idea.
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Iroegunam starting ahead of Tielemans would be like starting Duran and putting Watkins on the bench. Just not happening.
Not really because they'd both be in their normal position whereas playing Tielemans deep doesn't really suit him or play to his strengths so if you pick him you have to move McGinn deeper. The argument isn't directly between the 2 but more about how either of them impacts the overall setup of the midfield. Iroegbunam is a better fit to repalce Kamara but is very inexperienced and, I suspect, Emery is trying to keep the pressure off him for now.
This isn't Championship Manager on the PC.
The team is picking itself at the moment and you don't leave senior Belgium international players on the bench to give a Rookie a go. Ridiculous idea.
Except managers do exactly that all the time (to rest players, to give kids some experience, to balance the team better and many other reasons), being a manager is a bit more complicated than picking the 11 best players available every week.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Has a decent shot on him too. He will start for sure. These are the games we bought him to make a difference in.
Konsa and Duran still out, we don't do small niggles.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
True but as good as he can be, my concern is he disappears far too often. He needs to have a big performance on Saturday, we can't be relying on McGinn and Dougie to do all the work.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Is a low block the same as sitting deep or parking the bus or defending in numbers? This new fangled terminology gets on my wick. But that's probably just my age.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Is a low block the same as sitting deep or parking the bus or defending in numbers? This new fangled terminology gets on my wick. But that's probably just my age.
Me too. I've only just understood linking the play.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Is a low block the same as sitting deep or parking the bus or defending in numbers? This new fangled terminology gets on my wick. But that's probably just my age.
Me too. I've only just understood linking the play.
Playing between the lines is so passe now.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Good point.
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I like between the lines as a phrase because it correctly identifies what almost every tactic is trying to achieve, if you can get players into positions where defenders don't want or expect them to be then you'll generally be pretty successful.
Pretty much every other term used by the football hipsters (low block, etc) is just a new badge on a well established concept. When did the offside trap become a high line, and why? I don't mind it as much as some but I do find it a bit strange that people felt the need to do it.
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
That wouldn't disappoint me.
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I think we’ll play Tielemans, because I suspect Forest will play a low block and Tielemans is very good at finding gaps where others can’t.
Is a low block the same as sitting deep or parking the bus or defending in numbers? This new fangled terminology gets on my wick. But that's probably just my age.
Me too. I've only just understood linking the play.
Playing with and without the ball
With the ball - trying to keep the ball
Without the ball - running around try to get the ball
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I like between the lines as a phrase because it correctly identifies what almost every tactic is trying to achieve, if you can get players into positions where defenders don't want or expect them to be then you'll generally be pretty successful.
Pretty much every other term used by the football hipsters (low block, etc) is just a new badge on a well established concept. When did the offside trap become a high line, and why? I don't mind it as much as some but I do find it a bit strange that people felt the need to do it.
Football is a simple game being overly complicated in print and words by pricks .
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I like between the lines as a phrase because it correctly identifies what almost every tactic is trying to achieve, if you can get players into positions where defenders don't want or expect them to be then you'll generally be pretty successful.
Pretty much every other term used by the football hipsters (low block, etc) is just a new badge on a well established concept. When did the offside trap become a high line, and why? I don't mind it as much as some but I do find it a bit strange that people felt the need to do it.
Football is a simple game being overly complicated in print and words by pricks .
Football chat for the craft beer drinker.
Or anyone trying to be the best version of themselves.
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
That’d be very helpful.
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I like between the lines as a phrase because it correctly identifies what almost every tactic is trying to achieve, if you can get players into positions where defenders don't want or expect them to be then you'll generally be pretty successful.
Pretty much every other term used by the football hipsters (low block, etc) is just a new badge on a well established concept. When did the offside trap become a high line, and why? I don't mind it as much as some but I do find it a bit strange that people felt the need to do it.
Football is a simple game being overly complicated in print and words by pricks .
Football chat for the craft beer drinker.
Or anyone trying to be the best version of themselves.
Or living their best life
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"playing through the lines" AKA - passing
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
That’d be very helpful.
We are normally helpful to players struggling to score. Ask Holjund and Gallagher.
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
That’d be very helpful.
We are normally helpful to players struggling to score. Ask Holjund and Gallagher.
Holjund has scored like 6 in 7 though so hardly a total fluke
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Well it was when he scored his 1st in 20.
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"playing through the lines" AKA - passing
"Through the thirds"....best said in an Irish accent....seems to be the new coaching speak term
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"Through the thirds"....best said it an Irish accent.
Isn't everything?
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"Through the thirds"....best said it an Irish accent.
Isn't everything?
dere's more to Oyreland dhan dis
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Awoniyi apparently has a knock, so Origi may start.
That’d be very helpful.
We are normally helpful to players struggling to score. Ask Holjund and Gallagher.
Holjund has scored like 6 in 7 though so hardly a total fluke
Yeah and we sent him on his way after scoring naf all until boxing day
( credit Norman Stanley Fletcher)
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And Gallagher hadn't scored all season until he played us and then gets 3 in 2.
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"Through the thirds"....best said it an Irish accent.
Isn't everything?
Depends on the county!
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Win. All you naysayers worrying can keep quiet. Had the shittest week at work so need a villa win to take edge off
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Daniel Harris in the Guardian predicts that Forest will trouble us. But then again, he never has a good word to say about the Villa and he recently let slip that he’d only just learnt what the ‘D’ is for, which is shocking for a longtime football ‘journalist’.
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Daniel Harris in the Guardian predicts that Forest will trouble us. But then again, he never has a good word to say about the Villa and he recently let slip that he’d only just learnt what the ‘D’ is for, which is shocking for a longtime football ‘journalist’.
Isn't he a Forest fan?
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who is Dan Harris
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What D?
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who is Dan Harris
Sun reader are we?
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What D?
On the edge of the penalty area.
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What D?
I'm guessing the little marking on the edge of the area to ensure people behind the penalty taker are a set distance away, but is not part of the area for penalty decisions.
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It’s a segment of a circle with a circumference of 10 yards that has its focus on the penalty spot.
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What D?
On the edge of the penalty area.
Well that was my first thought, but thought it was so obvious that it couldn't have been that! How on earth can anyone writing about football not know that?
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What D?
On the edge of the penalty area.
Well that was my first thought, but thought it was so obvious that it couldn't have been that! How on earth can anyone writing about football not know that?
Lack of curiosity. Which is much more damning for a journalist.
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What D?
On the edge of the penalty area.
Well that was my first thought, but thought it was so obvious that it couldn't have been that! How on earth can anyone writing about football not know that?
I know right?
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who is Dan Harris
Sun reader are we?
yes Yoda
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Daniel Harris in the Guardian predicts that Forest will trouble us. But then again, he never has a good word to say about the Villa and he recently let slip that he’d only just learnt what the ‘D’ is for, which is shocking for a longtime football ‘journalist’.
Forest have weapons to vanquish Villa
Forest are in trouble, four points above the relegation zone and with their only win in their past five games coming against West Ham, the league’s current crisis-club. So a visit to Villa Park is the last thing they need because, after a dodgy few weeks, the home side righted themselves at Fulham last weekend, focused on converting a fine season into a Champions League place. Forest do, though, know how to play these kinds of matches, having won at Newcastle and given Arsenal and Manchester United scares. In Morgan Gibbs-White, they have a ball-carrier of pace and aggression, while Anthony Elanga and Callum Hudson-Odoi bring tricky directness and Taiwo Awoniyi converts his chances at a better rate than any striker in the division. All of this means Forest are well-placed to exploit Villa’s high line, but only if they can get enough of the ball to make it happen while staying solid at the back – both of which are far easier said than done. Daniel Harris
Hardly outrageous is it? Plenty of Villa fans are saying here and elsewhere that Forest play in a way that can cause us trouble. And they already have done this season.
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Seems perfectly reasonable to me, too.
Back to back wins and a win at home would certainly give the whole club a lift, as well as being a statement to those clutching at our coat tails. It won't be a walk over and we will need to score two or more to do it. 3-2.
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Really looking forward to this
Our boys last year all commented on the count down as being like cup finals and after the final whistle would say5 to go, 4 to go
They have already started last week when there were 14 to go - bring it on
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"Through the thirds"....best said it an Irish accent.
Isn't everything?
Depends on the county!
Fair enough, let's exclude Louth.
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who is Dan Harris
Sun reader are we?
yes Yoda
So you are a Sun reader. Explains a lot.
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who is Dan Harris
Sun reader are we?
yes Yoda
So you are a Sun reader. Explains a lot.
Page 3 , only
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One doesn’t READ Page 3.
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One doesn’t READ Page 3.
Oh I don't know. Saffron (Age 21) had some very interesting things to say about the Speaker debacle yesterday.
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Daniel Harris in the Guardian predicts that Forest will trouble us. But then again, he never has a good word to say about the Villa and he recently let slip that he’d only just learnt what the ‘D’ is for, which is shocking for a longtime football ‘journalist’.
I think he said they do have the ability to trouble us, as they have other top sides, which is true. They do have some dynamic players, but we just need to play to our potential and we’ll win.
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Don't feel like we generally play that well against Forest, even when we do beat them.
Should have won that 5-5 game though. We missed some sitters and they scored from a cross and a soft shot straight at Nyland.
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Just win the game today Villa.
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Hope we keep the momentum going, but I'm never confident against this lot..... same with Wolves - Both teams seem to have had our number in recent meetings.
Nipper says 3-1 Villa so I'd be more than happy with that. UTV
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Pau is the key for me. His quality basically frees up our midfield and it gives us a chance to overrun teams. Bouba is a big miss, but if we had only one available to us and I had to choose it’d be Pau in terms of his importance to our game.
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Pau is the key for me. His quality basically frees up our midfield and it gives us a chance to overrun teams. Bouba is a big miss, but if we had only one available to us and I had to choose it’d be Pau in terms of his importance to our game.
Absolutely, When you have Pau in the team no one in midfield needs to drop to receive the ball he will just find a player. Obviously I wish Konsa was next to him as our insurance, But we just have deal with that and hope Lenglet can step up again.
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The Trees will be Tricky, but the good guys will prevail.
2-1 us. Fancy Diaby to score if he comes on.
Wrap up warm everyone who's going!
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3.1.
With Diaby coming on and not scoring.
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3.1.
With Diaby coming on and not scoring.
Weird comment.
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I'm at work in deepest darkest Leicestershire. There are radios and the maintenance team lead is a Forest season ticket holder. I'm handing the site over to a Forest fan at 18:00 too.
Do not fucking lose, Villa.
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Yay two keepers on bench again 🙄
Id love for a youngster to take one of them spots
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Yay two keepers on bench again 🙄
Id love for a youngster to take one of them spots
What difference does it make? Diaby and Zaniolo are the only ones likely to come on.
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Yay two keepers on bench again 🙄
Id love for a youngster to take one of them spots
What difference does it make? Diaby and Zaniolo are the only ones likely to come on.
Because zaniolo is shite