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Title: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Legion on February 13, 2024, 10:41:18 PM
Saturday 17th February 2024. 3pm KO.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2024, 10:45:42 PM
Legion's started the pre-match thread. Nope, can't think of a single thing that could possibly go wrong here.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 13, 2024, 10:47:46 PM
0-2.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: olaftab on February 13, 2024, 10:59:32 PM
Saturday 17th February 2014. 3pm KO.
So did we win?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Legion on February 13, 2024, 11:01:44 PM
Saturday 17th February 2014. 3pm KO.
So did we win?

Ha! Cheers. Fat finger syndrome.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Legion on February 13, 2024, 11:02:33 PM
Legion'a started the pre-match thread. Nope, can't think of a single thing that could possibly go wrong here.

It's been a while.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Legion on February 13, 2024, 11:02:48 PM
0-2.

Nah. 2-0.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Beard82 on February 13, 2024, 11:25:10 PM
Saturday 17th February 2014. 3pm KO.
So did we win?

Ha! Cheers. Fat finger syndrome.
Shame - for a brief moment I thought I hadn't wasted the last 10 years
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: eamonn on February 13, 2024, 11:45:02 PM
Isn't this the one game Sawiris always turns up for, being closest to his mansion? Just don't fire the gaffer this time.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 13, 2024, 11:45:11 PM
There may be another thread for this so apologies that Ive missed it. But Philogene’s goal tonight, is possibly one of the best I’ve ever seen
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2024, 11:46:52 PM
Ref making his PL debut in this one…30 years old - good luck to him….he can’t be any worse than Coote or Jones can he? :-)
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: eamonn on February 13, 2024, 11:56:06 PM
There may be another thread for this so apologies that Ive missed it. But Philogene’s goal tonight, is possibly one of the best I’ve ever seen

Bring him home, Aston Villa. But how?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: usav on February 14, 2024, 12:20:07 AM
Seems to be a bogey ground for us.......we really do need a win.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2024, 12:44:30 AM
Legion starts the thread, bogey ground,3rd ACL of the season, and form is ropey - yikes.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2024, 12:58:23 AM
Time to kick start a positive run - win Villa we need to.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: LeonW on February 14, 2024, 04:06:05 AM
Huge momentum swing after last Sunday. Need to arrest it with a win here, no matter how we do it. Find a way, get it done, start it as a base to build from.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 08:41:01 AM
We'll do these.

If its 442:

Martinez

Cash
Carlos
Torres
Moreno

Bailey
McGinn
Luiz
Ramsey

Diaby
Watkins

Is what I think he will go with.

Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2024, 08:44:58 AM
I don't think he'll start with Bailey and Diaby in an away game.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Scratchins on February 14, 2024, 08:45:33 AM
Isn't this the one game Sawiris always turns up for, being closest to his mansion? Just don't fire the gaffer this time.



This makes me smile. I was on the official disabled coach which took a while to get back to pick us up. By the time we boarded, Gerrard had been sacked.  :D
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Dogtanian on February 14, 2024, 08:46:16 AM
I really hate Fulham away.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 09:13:40 AM
Last time we beat Fulham (although not at Fulham) with fans, Delaney had his leg broke.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Lsvilla on February 14, 2024, 09:15:51 AM
Last time we beat Fulham (although not at Fulham) with fans, Delaney had his leg broke.
Loftus Road ?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 09:30:57 AM
Yeah, Carlos Bocanegra went flying in.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 09:44:06 AM
last time i saw us beat Fulham away (at QPR) Nobby Solano scored
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: AV82EC on February 14, 2024, 09:46:00 AM
Hang on a minute didn’t we beat them in the MON era, 2-0 Gabby with both?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on February 14, 2024, 09:46:18 AM
My Real Tennis/Queen's Club Member Son-in-Law is taking my elder Grandson to watch the game. He's been wavering between whichever London team is doing well (he's 6) and Villa (when we see him). If we win that'll be a big boost in the right direction.

However, Villa have lost to Fulham whenever a family member has watched us play them. Going back to 1966.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 09:47:24 AM
Game is sold out, not sure how much of that new stand is open mind
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: mrfuse on February 14, 2024, 10:15:45 AM
The way things are for us at the minute I will take not getting a serious injury as a result.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 14, 2024, 10:43:35 AM
I'm never confident when we go to these cramped lower league grounds but hopefully there will a bit of spirit versus adversity about us after Sunday's events and we smash them to pieces.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Londonfranky on February 14, 2024, 11:19:22 AM
Glad your looking forward to Saturday, from this Fulham fan hoping that the villa team play like they did  in the your last 3 home games not like how they played at Sheffield United, it’s been a funny season for us, not replacing Mitrovic properly nearly losing Palhinha, three forwards that would struggle in the championship, first 12 games quite toothless, then 16 goals in 4 games, league cup semi for the first time ever, no fear of relegation because the 3 promoted teams have been toilet, hopefully you can maintain your position around champion league places, playing reasonably well at the moment, would have probably won at Burnley but for a brain fart by Leno, Bassey and Iwobi back from AFCON so up to nearly full strength
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2024, 11:25:59 AM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 11:33:28 AM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!
not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: OCD on February 14, 2024, 11:44:49 AM
The way we played Sunday was totally different to how we played against Newcastle and Chelsea. Certainly played well enough, just weren't clinical enough and made a couple of errors at the back. On another day it's a convincing win. I'd be happy if we played like that again, but corrected those errors and were more clinical.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 11:49:10 AM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

Agreed! There shall be a fucking of the tuckers.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Allan C on February 14, 2024, 11:57:29 AM
Villa win 0-2 all day long. If we play like we did for most of the Utd game, we’ll win more than we lose.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 14, 2024, 11:57:42 AM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 12:00:49 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 12:08:49 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue

Like our last away game you mean? Or any of the 3 before that?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: chrisw1 on February 14, 2024, 12:10:17 PM
I hope Pau starts.  Possibly too risky to start him and Digne.  This is how I see it:

               Martinez
Cash    Carlos    Torres     Moreno
Bailey  McGinn   Luiz   Ramsey
        Tielemans   Watkins

UTFV.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 12:16:37 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue

Like our last away game you mean? Or any of the 3 before that?
with Konsa playing . Or like our last 2 games without him and the keystone cops defending
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 12:19:31 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue

Like our last away game you mean? Or any of the 3 before that?
with Konsa playing . Or like our last 2 games without him and the keystone cops defending

We've kept 4 clean sheets on the road on the spin. You were as tedious in your previous iterations for chatting shite, being called out on it and then trying to move the goal posts.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 12:20:44 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue

Like our last away game you mean? Or any of the 3 before that?
with Konsa playing . Or like our last 2 games without him and the keystone cops defending

We've kept 4 clean sheets on the road on the spin. You were as tedious in your previous iterations for chatting shite, being called out on it and then trying to move the goal posts.
bore off you loser
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 12:22:48 PM
If we played like we did in our last home game you're going to lose 4-0 Franky me old china!

not if we defend like we did in our last home game. Or finish like we did in our last home game. 0-2

I'd still be happy with a 2-0 away win.
i'd be delighted with it , keeping a clean sheet is the first issue

Like our last away game you mean? Or any of the 3 before that?
with Konsa playing . Or like our last 2 games without him and the keystone cops defending

We've kept 4 clean sheets on the road on the spin. You were as tedious in your previous iterations for chatting shite, being called out on it and then trying to move the goal posts.
bore off you loser

#facepalm
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Bobby Boy on February 14, 2024, 12:26:04 PM
Tough one to call. Both teams capable of turning in a top performance or a stinker.

Not sure how we are going to replace Kamara and fear for our midfield in his absence.

Think both teams will score in an entertaining game.

2-2.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Nev on February 14, 2024, 12:36:46 PM
Along with our seasons aspirations taking a battering via injuries, game confidence has also taken a knock. Intrigue abounds over the team selection, how to replace Kamara? Torres/Digne to return? Whatever happens, if we perform anything like we did on Sunday we can prevail...

1-2
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 03:38:46 PM
Carlos has a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2024, 03:44:19 PM
So we’re down to 2 fit centre backs and 1 who might be fit.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: paul_e on February 14, 2024, 03:49:24 PM
So we’re down to 2 fit centre backs and 1 who might be fit.

2? Lenglet fit and Torres as a maybe I get but are you counting in Chambers as the other?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 03:53:22 PM
Swinkles has been on the bench recently
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 14, 2024, 03:54:19 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2024, 03:55:47 PM
So we’re down to 2 fit centre backs and 1 who might be fit.

2? Lenglet fit and Torres as a maybe I get but are you counting in Chambers as the other?

I’m counting Chambers, we don’t have a choice.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: paul_e on February 14, 2024, 04:02:08 PM
What's really bad is even most of the kids who could naturally fit in as RCB are out on loan so after Chambers the next one down looks like it's Thierry Katsukunya who has just moved from the U18s to the U21s to replace Feeney.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: olaftab on February 14, 2024, 04:02:55 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: paul_e on February 14, 2024, 04:03:52 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.

and you'd normally have Kamara available as emergency cover as well.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2024, 04:12:45 PM
It’s an opportunity for Chambers, who I don’t think is too bad at centre back, to prove a point. It’s bloody good that those Championship deals couldn’t be agreed.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2024, 04:21:24 PM
[Thank] fuck [for] the Albion.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 14, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.

and you'd normally have Kamara available as emergency cover as well.

I meant we don't have the squad depth now with all the injuries the compete..
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ian. on February 14, 2024, 04:40:40 PM
I can't see any team in the world having the squad depth needed for our injury cursed season. Getting over the  Mings and Emi injuries was extremely difficult and very demoralising, but then to have everything else that's happened is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: eamonn on February 14, 2024, 04:42:35 PM
Can Hause be registered for the squad or is that out lot for the rest of the season? I presume he's not still injured, merely out of favour.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Dogtanian on February 14, 2024, 04:44:18 PM
Can Hause be registered for the squad or is that out lot for the rest of the season? I presume he's not still injured, merely out of favour.

Not seen anything about his knee issues being resolved.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 14, 2024, 05:16:57 PM
Can Hause be registered for the squad or is that out lot for the rest of the season? I presume he's not still injured, merely out of favour.
he was pictured training at Bodymoor couple weeks ago
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: paul_e on February 14, 2024, 05:29:36 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.

and you'd normally have Kamara available as emergency cover as well.

I meant we don't have the squad depth now with all the injuries the compete..

I know, the point is that the squad depth at centre half is really good when everyone is fit and no club in the world could have their 4 first choice central defenders out and still be fielding a title challenging defence. I guess for me it's just a way of saying I hope the club/manager/etc aren't criticised for not being prepared for this.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: wolfman999 on February 14, 2024, 05:35:59 PM
All depends if we can get a team out by 15.00 on Saturday afternoon! How many black cats have we run over ffs!
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 14, 2024, 05:42:50 PM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.

and you'd normally have Kamara available as emergency cover as well.

I meant we don't have the squad depth now with all the injuries the compete..

I know, the point is that the squad depth at centre half is really good when everyone is fit and no club in the world could have their 4 first choice central defenders out and still be fielding a title challenging defence. I guess for me it's just a way of saying I hope the club/manager/etc aren't criticised for not being prepared for this.

But they will be.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: algy on February 14, 2024, 05:53:37 PM
Glad your looking forward to Saturday, from this Fulham fan hoping that the villa team play like they did  in the your last 3 home games not like how they played at Sheffield United, it’s been a funny season for us, not replacing Mitrovic properly nearly losing Palhinha, three forwards that would struggle in the championship, first 12 games quite toothless, then 16 goals in 4 games, league cup semi for the first time ever, no fear of relegation because the 3 promoted teams have been toilet, hopefully you can maintain your position around champion league places, playing reasonably well at the moment, would have probably won at Burnley but for a brain fart by Leno, Bassey and Iwobi back from AFCON so up to nearly full strength
Lovely to hear from you again, Franky :)
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Holy Trinity on February 14, 2024, 11:10:19 PM
I cant shake this feeling that our season has died with the injuries this week.
Such a shame after such a strong start but with FFP protecting the cartels and not allowing the johnny come lately's to gate crash I just hope we don't end up 7th or worse.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: tomd2103 on February 15, 2024, 12:24:20 AM
It’s an opportunity for Chambers, who I don’t think is too bad at centre back, to prove a point. It’s bloody good that those Championship deals couldn’t be agreed.

Yep, I'd play Chambers before rushing Torres back.  Far from ideal, but it's what we have got. 
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 15, 2024, 06:13:27 AM
Lenglet and Torrres don't have a right foot between them. This season is becoming a bad joke with injuries. We just don't have the squad depth to cope.
We do have squad depth, certainly as far ask CB’s are concerned, Konsa, Carlos, Mings, Torres and Lenglet. That’s more than enough and what’s come about due to an horrific luck with injuries can not be covered by squad depth.

and you'd normally have Kamara available as emergency cover as well.

I meant we don't have the squad depth now with all the injuries the compete..

I know, the point is that the squad depth at centre half is really good when everyone is fit and no club in the world could have their 4 first choice central defenders out and still be fielding a title challenging defence. I guess for me it's just a way of saying I hope the club/manager/etc aren't criticised for not being prepared for this.

But they will be.
Only idiots.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 15, 2024, 07:34:40 AM
Can't say I'm overly confident. Think our last loss in London was Fulham away.

Imagine Douglas will have to play in DM, where he's nowhere near as effective. Pau will presumably start, alongside Lenglet.

At least Ramsey looked much more like himself last match and I think Diaby has looked improved over the last few matches.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Ads on February 15, 2024, 09:16:34 AM
Can't say I'm overly confident. Think our last loss in London was Fulham away.

Imagine Douglas will have to play in DM, where he's nowhere near as effective. Pau will presumably start, alongside Lenglet.

At least Ramsey looked much more like himself last match and I think Diaby has looked improved over the last few matches.

So we'll still be fielding a side that is significantly better than Fulham all over the park.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: brontebilly on February 15, 2024, 09:52:12 AM
In the reverse fixture I thought McGinn had his best game for the club. Paulinha, who is a very good midfielder, was being strongly linked to Bayern Munich at the time but SJM destroyed him. We move McGinn back next to Luiz and we lose his ability to drop into the play behind Paulinha. Think we should be giving Tim his chance but I expect Emery to go with Luiz/McGinn and Tielemans will get back in.

Any kind of a win would be amazing in the circumstances. To be honest I think I'd prefer Chambers at RCB rather than Lenglet or Torres moving over. Fulham have struggled for goals since Mitrovic left but I can't see us keeping a clean sheet in the circumstances. 2-3 win, Ramsey motm and Watkins back among the goals.

---------Martinez
Cash, Chambers, Torres/Lenglet, Moreno
------Luiz, McGinn
Bailey, Tielemans, Ramsey
-----Watkins
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 15, 2024, 10:16:18 AM
With the players out, our dodgy defensive lineup and poor record at Fulham I would be happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Lsvilla on February 15, 2024, 10:25:36 AM
If it helps, I'm going. 8th away of the season. So far draws at Wolves, Everton Chelsea (cup) and a win at Middlesbrough. Losses at Newcastle, Forest and Warsaw. Was predicting a 3-2 win before the news about Diego. Not optimistic now.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 15, 2024, 10:34:35 AM
Last time I went there, we found the 'Bottom Bench' in Hammersmith and had a beer or three at a pub just off Hammersmith Bridge, just over the road from Ian Dury's old flat. I can remember all that but not the score.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2024, 10:44:51 AM
The shit that went on in Ian Dury's flat...read (actually, listen to - the audiobook is fantastic) his son Baxter's memoir, Chaise Longue for vivid accounts of depravity.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 15, 2024, 10:50:01 AM
The shit that went on in Ian Dury's flat...read (actually, listen to - the audiobook is fantastic) his son Baxter's memoir, Chaise Longue for vivid accounts of depravity.


I've read it, it's marvellous. Baxter still lives there.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 15, 2024, 12:24:01 PM
This game will begin to sort out which players have the cahoneys for the run in and those who are one flip-flop on the beach already. Bring it on.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 15, 2024, 12:25:29 PM
This game will begin to sort out which players have the cahoneys for the run in and those who are one flip-flop on the beach already. Bring it on.

Cojones, but your way is good too.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2024, 12:35:05 PM
The shit that went on in Ian Dury's flat...read (actually, listen to - the audiobook is fantastic) his son Baxter's memoir, Chaise Longue for vivid accounts of depravity.


I've read it, it's marvellous. Baxter still lives there.

Thanks Eastie.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 15, 2024, 12:48:03 PM
The shit that went on in Ian Dury's flat...read (actually, listen to - the audiobook is fantastic) his son Baxter's memoir, Chaise Longue for vivid accounts of depravity.


I've read it, it's marvellous. Baxter still lives there.

Thanks Eastie.

This deserved a proper LOL (as the youth say).
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 15, 2024, 12:48:04 PM
This game will begin to sort out which players have the cahoneys for the run in and those who are one flip-flop on the beach already. Bring it on.

Cojones, but your way is good too.
just need to see the heroism on the pitch. (and some basic defending)  :D
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Mister E on February 15, 2024, 04:55:06 PM
In the reverse fixture I thought McGinn had his best game for the club. Paulinha, who is a very good midfielder, was being strongly linked to Bayern Munich at the time but SJM destroyed him. We move McGinn back next to Luiz and we lose his ability to drop into the play behind Paulinha. Think we should be giving Tim his chance but I expect Emery to go with Luiz/McGinn and Tielemans will get back in.
Totally agree.

Any kind of a win would be amazing in the circumstances. To be honest I think I'd prefer Chambers at RCB rather than Lenglet or Torres moving over. Fulham have struggled for goals since Mitrovic left but I can't see us keeping a clean sheet in the circumstances.
Yes, I think on balance I'd agree with that.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: caster troy on February 16, 2024, 09:38:06 AM
The press conference today will be interesting. Is Pau fit to start? Any Konsa update? Who replaces Kamara? Change of system?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Nev on February 16, 2024, 10:01:13 AM
More lazy rubbish from the Guardian preview who don't see fit to mention our 3rd ACL this season and the most recent one and it's impact on the side.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 10:12:06 AM
More lazy rubbish from the Guardian preview who don't see fit to mention our 3rd ACL this season and the most recent one and it's impact on the side.

Yeah I read that. Unusually bad even for the Guardian. This is a clearly worse injury crisis than the ones they went mental over earlier in the season, and the best they can muster is a paragraph that says Diaby's recent omissions have been 'puzzling'. Puzzling?! There was a whole piece in The Athletic about why he's been bad!

Fact is that the Graun talks a big old lefty game but its sport coverage reveals that it's just as craven and slavering a power-worshipper as anyone else.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: LeeB on February 16, 2024, 10:29:48 AM
More lazy rubbish from the Guardian preview who don't see fit to mention our 3rd ACL this season and the most recent one and it's impact on the side.

Yeah I read that. Unusually bad even for the Guardian. This is a clearly worse injury crisis than the ones they went mental over earlier in the season, and the best they can muster is a paragraph that says Diaby's recent omissions have been 'puzzling'. Puzzling?! There was a whole piece in The Athletic about why he's been bad!

Fact is that the Graun talks a big old lefty game but its sport coverage reveals that it's just as craven and slavering a power-worshipper as anyone else.

God that's so true, I'm pretty sure Jamie Jackson's wage is paid by Manchester United he's that far up their rectum.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: OCD on February 16, 2024, 10:36:42 AM
More lazy rubbish from the Guardian preview who don't see fit to mention our 3rd ACL this season and the most recent one and it's impact on the side.

Yeah I read that. Unusually bad even for the Guardian. This is a clearly worse injury crisis than the ones they went mental over earlier in the season, and the best they can muster is a paragraph that says Diaby's recent omissions have been 'puzzling'. Puzzling?! There was a whole piece in The Athletic about why he's been bad!

Fact is that the Graun talks a big old lefty game but its sport coverage reveals that it's just as craven and slavering a power-worshipper as anyone else.

I don't think any other media publication is on the same level as the Athletic. Fully worth the £1/mth I pay for it.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 10:39:27 AM
More lazy rubbish from the Guardian preview who don't see fit to mention our 3rd ACL this season and the most recent one and it's impact on the side.

Yeah I read that. Unusually bad even for the Guardian. This is a clearly worse injury crisis than the ones they went mental over earlier in the season, and the best they can muster is a paragraph that says Diaby's recent omissions have been 'puzzling'. Puzzling?! There was a whole piece in The Athletic about why he's been bad!

Fact is that the Graun talks a big old lefty game but its sport coverage reveals that it's just as craven and slavering a power-worshipper as anyone else.

God that's so true, I'm pretty sure Jamie Jackson's wage is paid by Manchester United he's that far up their rectum.

Yep. Ronay, Liew and Wilson may criticise Big Sixery or the state-owned clubs but they also don't write about anyone else.

Well, other than the times Wilson bores the fuck on about Sunderland. Oh, does Kevin de Bruyne remind you of obscure 50s Mackem centre half Billy Grabblebottom? Wow. How interesting.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2024, 10:44:36 AM
I wonder whether we're getting a little precious because the rest of the world doesn't mirror our frankly weird obsessions. If you're neutral or disinterested, why would you bore your readership with endless detail about a team that rarely matters?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 10:55:10 AM
I wonder whether we're getting a little precious because the rest of the world doesn't mirror our frankly weird obsessions. If you're neutral or disinterested, why would you bore your readership with endless detail about a team that rarely matters?

It's more that we do as well as we did earlier in the season and the best we get is a couple of weeks of 'wow! hey look at that! anyway Spurs'.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2024, 10:56:49 AM
I wonder whether we're getting a little precious because the rest of the world doesn't mirror our frankly weird obsessions. If you're neutral or disinterested, why would you bore your readership with endless detail about a team that rarely matters?

It's more that we do as well as we did earlier in the season and the best we get is a couple of weeks of 'wow! hey look at that! anyway Spurs'.

Yeah, but the alternative is asking turkeys to vote for Christmas. More people are interested in Spurs.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 16, 2024, 10:58:43 AM
Last time I went there, we found the 'Bottom Bench' in Hammersmith and had a beer or three at a pub just off Hammersmith Bridge, just over the road from Ian Dury's old flat. I can remember all that but not the score.


Probably 10 years ago now but we were in the pub before a Fulham game and Nigel Kennedy and Spizz were both drinking in there. Complete opposite ends of the musical spectrum represented by 2 Villa fans.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 10:59:55 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2024, 11:02:32 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].

Yes, for obsessives. The Guardian occupies a 'general interest' space (and is free), hence endless 'big six' shite.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 11:05:46 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].

Yes, for obsessives. The Guardian occupies a 'general interest' space (and is free), hence endless 'big six' shite.

Is this an excuse for the Villa section of the weekend preview knowing so little about the Villa so as to say that Diaby's omissions have been 'puzzling'?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2024, 11:07:28 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].

Yes, for obsessives. The Guardian occupies a 'general interest' space (and is free), hence endless 'big six' shite.

Is this an excuse for the Villa section of the weekend preview knowing so little about the Villa so as to say that Diaby's omissions have been 'puzzling'?

I just don't think it matters.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: LeeB on February 16, 2024, 11:08:09 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].

Yes, for obsessives. The Guardian occupies a 'general interest' space (and is free), hence endless 'big six' shite.

It's the chicken and egg though especially in the case of Spurs.

Are more people interested in Spurs, or are they talked about more simply because they're talked about more? I think in their case in particular it's because they're sworn rivals of two other clubs that have been hugely successful for different reasons in the last 20 years, namely Arsenal and Chelsea, and due to the bants driven 'national' (lol) radio shite like Talksport.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 11:09:50 AM
That's what I was trying (and failing) to say. It's the old thing of perpetuation.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 16, 2024, 11:14:32 AM
They render themselves exactly like the rest of the market by doing so though. The Athletic (I know, I know) has shown us that a better world is possible, dammit [wipes away tear].

Yes, for obsessives. The Guardian occupies a 'general interest' space (and is free), hence endless 'big six' shite.

It's the chicken and egg though especially in the case of Spurs.

Are more people interested in Spurs, or are they talked about more simply because they're talked about more? I think in their case in particular it's because they're sworn rivals of two other clubs that have been hugely successful for different reasons in the last 20 years, namely Arsenal and Chelsea, and due to the bants driven 'national' (lol) radio shite like Talksport.
in a nutshell, Yes.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: LeeB on February 16, 2024, 11:23:42 AM
You've asked them all then? Once again, thank you for your invaluble input.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: tony scott on February 16, 2024, 11:29:39 AM
I think we will grind out a result Uni will come up with a tactical approach to take into account are current injury situation we have some very winnable games coming  utv
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: OCD on February 16, 2024, 11:38:56 AM
It's one thing for the media to fixate on the media 6 and another for a football writer to be so ill-informed as to question why Diaby hasn't been starting games.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 16, 2024, 12:09:39 PM
You've asked them all then? Once again, thank you for your invaluble input.
read the exam question again.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 16, 2024, 12:11:11 PM
It's one thing for the media to fixate on the media 6 and another for a football writer to be so ill-informed as to question why Diaby hasn't been starting games.
We all know why he's not starting . the mainstream media get much more basic things wrong about us than this so i don't see why this is coming as a surprise  ;D
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Rigadon on February 16, 2024, 03:10:13 PM
I’ve given up reading the guardians football output and listening to its podcast.  It was annoying me too much!  I still dip into the political sketch stuff (Marina Hyde can be quite brilliant I think) and some of the opinion pieces (Raphael Behr in particular).  But the football coverage, Barry Glendenning aside, comes across as really smug. 
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on February 16, 2024, 07:55:15 PM
I’ve given up reading the guardians football output and listening to its podcast.  It was annoying me too much!  I still dip into the political sketch stuff (Marina Hyde can be quite brilliant I think) and some of the opinion pieces (Raphael Behr in particular).  But the football coverage, Barry Glendenning aside, comes across as really smug.

Glendening did mention Kamara’s ACL injury being our 3rd of the season and how it could effect us, that was on the latest podcast.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 16, 2024, 08:24:05 PM
To be fair most of the guests on the Guardian football podcast are decent. There’s only really two that grate a bit:

- Jordan Jarrett-Bryan, openly anti-Villa fans. But it’s not even really that that bothers me, he just comes across as a bit of a shock jock.

- Will Unwin, always sounds like he’s more interested in trying to sound smugly witty rather than actually try to offer insight.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2024, 08:48:12 PM
Jarrett-Bryan's just doing an incredibly boring schtick. Hating him for being anti-Villa would be to give him what he wants. Instead, pity him for being so crushingly dull.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 16, 2024, 09:22:22 PM
Jordan Jarrett-Bryan, openly anti-Villa fans.

I'm not familiar with his work, but he has a really shit name.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Yeltzer on February 16, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
I still have nightmares about Jimmy Bullard and his free kick. Fuck the fuckers. 3-0 to Villa. Watkins hat trick
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 16, 2024, 10:42:09 PM
I expect Doug to have a stormer after an unjust sending off by the cheating twat Mitrovic
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: ozzjim on February 16, 2024, 11:35:58 PM
No idea how it will go, but God I hope we are all happy with Tim, relieved to have Pau back and delighted that Diaby got the winner off his backside to give him some confidence.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 16, 2024, 11:52:46 PM
Any kind of win would be a huge boost.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 17, 2024, 08:18:56 AM
Three points would be marvellous. No new injuries would be very welcome as well. 1-2. Watkins and Mcginn. Louis Saha for them. Tim to hobble off after 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: curiousorange on February 17, 2024, 09:29:35 AM
I'm kind of resigned to things being shit for a while, so no real expectation of a win today.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 17, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
We do need to turn the tide - enough of conceding soft goals, and we just need to take our chances. This is a really tough game for a whole host of reasons and we need to step up.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 17, 2024, 10:14:00 AM
That Bassey is back for them which could be a huge boost for us if he is selected
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Baldy on February 17, 2024, 10:24:43 AM
The last two weeks has been deflating. A combination of injuries and those around us grabbing last minute winners etc.

But we still have a lot of quality players available and a manager who knows how to get the best out of them. Let's be positive. A good result today will go a long way to getting us back on track.

1-2 the villa.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 17, 2024, 10:28:47 AM
Looking around at the other fixtures i think its important we win this one
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 17, 2024, 10:29:08 AM
That Bassey is back for them which could be a huge boost for us if he is selected
Shirley quitting her tax haven?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 17, 2024, 10:30:24 AM
I think we should play a back four of Digne, Moreno, Torres and Lenglet, all left footers, for the craic.

2-1 Villa somehow (Watkins, Bailey)
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on February 17, 2024, 10:53:20 AM
I hope Villa can win but I'd take a point today, we always get done here and a draw would stop the rot. I really like Fulhams walk out music.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 17, 2024, 11:04:54 AM
I cant shake this feeling that our season has died with the injuries this week.
Such a shame after such a strong start but with FFP protecting the cartels and not allowing the johnny come lately's to gate crash I just hope we don't end up 7th or worse.
Sadly, I have to agree with you. Realistically, I think we'll do well to get 7th again now and I can see us going out of the Conference League in the quarters or semis (and as for the FFP rules!). Just as well I haven't booked that hotel room in Athens!

Obviously I hope I'm wrong!

Desmond today (Ollie & Leon), but Tim to do well.

Hi Franky (wave emoji)!
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: stevo_st on February 17, 2024, 11:06:09 AM
In the ‘neutral’ end today, is anyone else here going?
Is there a good pub to bump into Villa fans pre match?
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: stevo_st on February 17, 2024, 11:07:01 AM
Was going to do the Coat & Badge
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: VillaTim on February 17, 2024, 11:09:44 AM
In the ‘neutral’ end today, is anyone else here going?
Is there a good pub to bump into Villa fans pre match?
8 Bells is normally vibrant
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: KevinGage on February 17, 2024, 11:28:48 AM
Jarrett-Bryan's just doing an incredibly boring schtick. Hating him for being anti-Villa would be to give him what he wants. Instead, pity him for being so crushingly dull.

Double-barrell bollock brain.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 17, 2024, 12:04:10 PM
In the ‘neutral’ end today, is anyone else here going?
Is there a good pub to bump into Villa fans pre match?
Kings Arms
Temperance
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Clampy on February 17, 2024, 12:17:53 PM
I don't know if The Bricklayers Arms is still there on the other side of the bridge. That was alright, if a bit pricey.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2024, 12:20:56 PM
The days of getting a pint for a decent price in London are long gone I'm afraid, especially round that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Fulham vs Aston Villa Pre-Match Ramblings
Post by: john e on February 17, 2024, 12:31:21 PM
In the ‘neutral’ end today, is anyone else here going?
Is there a good pub to bump into Villa fans pre match?

Yes me
Don’t think it’s called the neutral end anymore though
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