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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on January 14, 2024, 03:47:37 PM
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Bit shit, really.
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Terrible, any excuse for a bit of push and shoving, and it always ends with at least a booking. After Kamara, you'd think they'd grow up a bit.
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One red all season, chill out
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One red all season, chill out
Yeah, that didn’t affect us at all.
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One red all season, chill out
We can chill until the second red comes...
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One red all season, chill out
We can chill until the second red comes...
Excellent point well made sir
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Much adieu about nothing. We were clamoring for it when we were rolling over for the top sides years ago. Now we’ve got grit and stick up for eachother. Referees losing control of the match is the bigger problem.
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It's better than being a soft touch like we were for years.
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Is it any shockthat our 2 most ill-disciplined displays have come under the same ref? We really should be having words with PGMOL about him because he's been fucking awful for us twice in a fairly short time now.
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Dyche had clearly watched our game v Sheffield United, you could see they were trying to provoke Duran at every opportunity to get him to swing an elbow and I thought he did well not to react.
Not sure why Tielemans was getting involved in needless disputes though right after coming on, as an experienced player he should know better.
I like Tarkowski but he gets away with so much. Could've easily been a second booking when he went through Ollie.
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Utterly frustrating game reffed by an incompetent and played against a horribly cynical side. Teams are getting into our face much more than they used to. Just look how they targeted McGinn in the first half and then Tielemans in the second.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
Yep. 2hat a fucking idiot at that stage of the game.
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One red all season, chill out
We can chill until the second red comes...
Excellent point well made sir
Ah that's nice of you to say. Cheers!
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Reactionary thread, they're a great bunch of lads.
I do wonder what Tielemans was saying to Seámie Coleman to rile up the Sligo man so much.
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Our discipline is fine, it's the garbage officiating we seem to be facing since we beat Citeh and Arsenal that's the issue.
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Not as bad as Everton
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No issue with our discipline.
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No issue at all for me, always a chance Duran could lose the head but just about held onto it today. Ref lost control. Said on match thread but thought as a team we should have kicked off after that tackle on Diaby. That ref was so weak it might have forced him to check with VAR.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
It's still unclear who.actually gave that foul. The referee seemed to point ti his ear piece which would suggest it was another official who made it. If it was the VAR official then that is questionable isn't it?
I do.agree about the discipline though and it's usually nothing more than.petulance, often.in stupid areas of the pitch...
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Dyche obviously told his players to wind us up from the start and as the ref was so shit, we played intontheir hands a bit, lowering our play into the bargain. You just need to learn to laugh at them as it winds them up far more than you. Sheff Utd will try exactly the same in a few weeks time.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
It's still unclear who.actually gave that foul. The referee seemed to point ti his ear piece which would suggest it was another official who made it. If it was the VAR official then that is questionable isn't it?
I do.agree about the discipline though and it's usually nothing more than.petulance, often.in stupid areas of the pitch...
Linesman is also miked to the refs / VAR so if it was his side he might have given it.
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It's the silly, petty bookings that we need to stamp out. Daft fouls, off the ball too. The pushing and shoving in the corner was brought about by a dreadful tackle by Tarkowski who then indicated for his team-mates to go across and join in with the pushing, watch it again. The referee was easily swayed too.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
Hard to see who was fouling who there. The way it was going the ref was never going to give it our way.
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It's not our fault the referee was a useless ******. Another bizarre fucking decision.
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It's not our fault the referee was a useless ******. Another bizarre fucking decision.
There's absolutely no reason to get involved in pushing and shoving. It's given us a red for Kamara and countless yellows. Then there have been a number of daft yellows for stupid things like kicking the ball away, like Carlos today, which then meant we had to sub him. Just cut it out.
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One red card in twenty one games is hardly worth getting worked up over, never mind starting a thread about. That ref didn't really have a clue.
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It's not our fault the referee was a useless ******. Another bizarre fucking decision.
There's absolutely no reason to get involved in pushing and shoving. It's given us a red for Kamara and countless yellows. Then there have been a number of daft yellows for stupid things like kicking the ball away, like Carlos today, which then meant we had to sub him. Just cut it out.
Carlos did us a favour, he's brainless
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Our discipline is fine, it's the garbage officiating we seem to be facing since we beat Citeh and Arsenal that's the issue.
This, this and thrice this. I’m glad we can mix it. But the refereeing in our games has been shocking since mid December.
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It's better than being a soft touch like we were for years.
This, it’s hardly bad is it?
The referees are bloody useless. Watkins and Tielemans should not have been booked today. There centre half went right through Watkins right after Tielemans received his soft booking as well and got nothing.
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This is Unai's classy view on today's disallowed goal:
“It was long [deciding] because it was tight, but I completely accept VAR’s decision. The most important thing is to get the right decision – if it takes time to get the right decision, I accept it.”
And that is what sets him apart from the Big6 whingers and whiners.
Methinks our players would benefit similar self control.
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It's better than being a soft touch like we were for years.
This, it’s hardly bad is it?
The referees are bloody useless. Watkins and Tielemans should not have been booked today. There centre half went right through Watkins right after Tielemans received his soft booking as well and got nothing.
That was a bad tackle on Watkins, he could and should have made a lot more of it. Tarlowski would only be a PL defender under Dyche.
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It's better than being a soft touch like we were for years.
This, it’s hardly bad is it?
The referees are bloody useless. Watkins and Tielemans should not have been booked today. There centre half went right through Watkins right after Tielemans received his soft booking as well and got nothing.
That was a bad tackle on Watkins, he could and should have made a lot more of it. Tarlowski would only be a PL defender under Dyche.
It was a terrible challenge. We’ve been fed of players diving for years but now in Diably and Watkins cases today, when they do not make a meal of things the other team go unpunished.
It’s all just so inconsistent. Even Lenglet‘s yellow was nonsense as he didn’t do anything and was rammed by two players after the incident and didn’t retaliate.
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There is nothing to see here folks, move on please.
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One red all season, chill out
Watkins gave away a free kick at the end to overule a corner we could have scored from.
Hard to see who was fouling who there. The way it was going the ref was never going to give it our way.
Before the 'foul' that was given there's a clear as day 2handed shove on Ollie that pushed him into an offside position just as we were trying to get the cross over. The foul was Ollie pushing him back at which point Tarkowski decided to wrestle with him and turned out to be weaker than Ollie. Anyone who watched it would know exactly who instigated that bullshit but the piss poor referee just saw Tarkowski go over and gifted them a free kick.
The same thing happened over and over during the game and the idiot ref fell for it every time.
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It was almost the end of the game, but McGinn was subbed off immediately after being clattered into, when he looked to be in a rage and shaping up to go about exacting his own form of redress. It looked to me as if he was being taken off before he could get to work on it!
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Since Brentford, we have been involved in unnecessary pushing and shoving during dead ball situations in just about every game. Prior to Brentford there was nothing. It has clearly been siezed on as a way to unsettle us, knock us off our stride and get us yellow and possibly red cards. It also shows we are feeling the pressure of competing at the top. It's something that needs to be talked about. We should let it all go over our heads and focus on playing the game because that is actually something we are better at than most of our opposition.
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Reactionary thread, they're a great bunch of lads.
I do wonder what Tielemans was saying to Seámie Coleman to rile up the Sligo man so much.
Maybe said he was from Sligo
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Nobody seems to mentioning the Langlet ‘goal’, disallowed for a stupid free kick given away. Bad reffing sure, but bad play to give him a chance to blow up. Can’t mind who now, but it was more pointless wrestling and cost us two points.
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Nobody seems to mentioning the Langlet ‘goal’, disallowed for a stupid free kick given away. Bad reffing sure, but bad play to give him a chance to blow up. Can’t mind who now, but it was more pointless wrestling and cost us two points.
I think it's a tactic we employ with corners. They idea being to keep defenders where they are so we have less risk of being caught offside. Invariably it's considered as both of them are at it and you get away with it.
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It looks like some teams have decided to challenge the courage of the players as they can't compete football-wise.
It doesn't help when the ref is an utterly clueless tw*t like Coote.
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Nobody seems to mentioning the Langlet ‘goal’, disallowed for a stupid free kick given away. Bad reffing sure, but bad play to give him a chance to blow up. Can’t mind who now, but it was more pointless wrestling and cost us two points.
I think it's a tactic we employ with corners. They idea being to keep defenders where they are so we have less risk of being caught offside. Invariably it's considered as both of them are at it and you get away with it.
Perhaps, but it wasn’t from a corner. I’m on about the Langlet goal, not the Moreno one.