Post by: dave.woodhall on January 09, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
Post by: Drummond on January 10, 2024, 02:00:39 PM
Post by: Simon Page on January 10, 2024, 02:06:10 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 14, 2024, 01:35:32 AM
Post by: TonyD on January 14, 2024, 02:21:43 AM
My parents have always raved about it when they watched live in 74.
Now that’s a proper scrap.
No bollocks
Cooper’s left hook is still a classic.
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 15, 2024, 01:13:17 AM
Post by: Villa Lew on January 20, 2024, 11:05:50 PM
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Post by: Tucson Villain on January 20, 2024, 11:14:24 PM
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 20, 2024, 11:53:17 PM
Er, Cooper?
Indeed, my mnemonic for remembering which is which is that Foreman didn't fight Ali in Manila and Frazier didn't fight him in Zaire.
Post by: Rory on January 21, 2024, 05:07:06 AM
Er, Cooper?
Indeed, my mnemonic for remembering which is which is that Foreman didn't fight Ali in Manila and Frazier didn't fight him in Zaire.
Or you could just know your boxing history 😉
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 27, 2024, 08:48:04 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on February 01, 2024, 09:27:30 PM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 02, 2024, 10:11:23 PM
Quote
Tyson Fury's undisputed heavyweight title fight against Oleksandr Usyk has been postponed after the Briton sustained a "freak" cut in training.
Fury, 35, was cut in sparring at his training camp in Saudi Arabia on Friday in preparation for the bout on 17 February in Riyadh.
The injury above Fury's right eye needed "urgent medical attention" and "significant stitching".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055
Post by: Risso on February 02, 2024, 10:27:06 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on February 03, 2024, 07:45:04 PM
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 03, 2024, 07:47:27 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2024, 08:52:43 PM
Post by: olaftab on February 04, 2024, 10:30:30 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 04, 2024, 04:21:18 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on February 05, 2024, 04:11:50 PM
Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2024, 04:28:04 PM
Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. He should have fought Usyk a couple of years ago while he could still be arsed.
Post by: Villa Lew on February 09, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2024, 04:00:21 AM
Blimey, I haven’t been that surprised since somebody told me tomorrow is Saturday.
Saw an interview with Johnny Nelson where he was saying that there are a lot of rumours flying around that Fury was getting turned over in the gym, his legs have gone and what we saw against Ngannou is a reflection of where he's at.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. He should have fought Usyk a couple of years ago while he could still be arsed.
I'd still be very surprised if Usyk beat him. Fury is busy and smart enough to keep him at range, and Usyk doesn't have devastating power on the inside to hurt him.
I want to see the fight, but can't help thinking it'll be a disappointment.
Post by: Risso on February 10, 2024, 07:39:44 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2024, 08:54:15 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2024, 09:24:41 PM
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2024, 10:28:15 PM
It's just that continuous forward momentum from Usyk that I think would trouble Fury. He's always moving, and always trying to throw punches, which at the very least would probably give him a points victory.
You may well be right, mate, Usyk is an excellent fighter. If they were both the same size, I'd favour Usyk.
Post by: Villa Lew on February 10, 2024, 10:38:42 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
No messing about from Sheeraz, that was very impressive.
I don't like him, but it was. It also meant I could catch the last rounds of Bellotti beating Dillon.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2024, 10:03:11 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 01, 2024, 10:15:30 PM
Sam Eggington's fighting on Channel 5 now, so no messing around with streams or subscriptions. One day the wars he's been in will catch up with him and it might be tonight but there's more action in one of his fights than in a dozen of Eddie Hearn's snoozathons.
Hope it’s not tonight that it catches up Dave, one of those you have to watch!
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2024, 11:13:40 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 01, 2024, 11:18:10 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2024, 11:19:36 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 01, 2024, 11:26:03 PM
And a very classy touch during the post-fight interview.
Absolutely, an hour of how boxing should be, good fight with nothing left in there, full respect - proper fight…tho no Hearn or Warren involved so we shouldn’t be surprised
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2024, 11:35:22 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on March 08, 2024, 04:45:54 PM
Post by: Rotterdam on March 08, 2024, 04:54:19 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 06:03:09 PM
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 08, 2024, 08:25:42 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 08:51:22 PM
So do people reckon Joshua will win?
Easily.
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 08, 2024, 08:53:16 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 09:55:07 PM
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 08, 2024, 10:29:54 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 08, 2024, 10:32:32 PM
Nick Ball's getting a bit of a lesson here.Guess a draw would have been taken at halfway
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 10:33:21 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 10:34:48 PM
Probably for another time to answer Dave, but where does your love of boxing come from?
I was brought up with it. My granddad was a pro boxer, my dad was an amateur.
Post by: Smirker on March 08, 2024, 10:53:54 PM
Baffles me a bit that we seem underrepresented in this sport.
Are we and if so, why?
A big part of why I can watch UFC is because I get support Leon Edwards. I'd like a Birmingham fighter to get behind. I know of the Yafai brothers but they're not world stars and doesn't look like they will be.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 11:01:12 PM
Post by: Smirker on March 08, 2024, 11:16:27 PM
Post by: Risso on March 08, 2024, 11:21:39 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2024, 11:30:15 PM
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Post by: aldridgeboy on March 09, 2024, 12:35:58 AM
Post by: tomd2103 on March 09, 2024, 12:43:42 AM
What a punch that was !!
Tough one as he probably shouldn't have been allowed to carry on after the second knockdown, but it would have been a big call to stop it at that point.
Post by: Rory on March 09, 2024, 05:08:29 AM
Post by: aldridgeboy on March 09, 2024, 08:55:54 AM
Post by: Demitri_C on March 09, 2024, 09:17:11 AM
If he wants to stay in this sport needs to go fight some lower level boxers like takam, joyce zhang ruiz who are names. Personally think he should go back to UFC and fight jon Jones
Post by: ozzjim on March 09, 2024, 10:15:34 AM
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
Post by: Gareth on March 09, 2024, 10:32:28 AM
Not a chance Fury will take the AJ fight while AJ is looking confident. For all his talk he has an incredible ability to duck fights. AJ prepared like a pro for a huge money fight and did the job he should do. Fury is a disgrace for how out of shape he was for the Ngannou fight last time.
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
I’ll still be shocked if Fury gets in the ring with Usyk let alone AJ
Post by: tomd2103 on March 09, 2024, 01:39:11 PM
Not a chance Fury will take the AJ fight while AJ is looking confident. For all his talk he has an incredible ability to duck fights. AJ prepared like a pro for a huge money fight and did the job he should do. Fury is a disgrace for how out of shape he was for the Ngannou fight last time.
Wathching Ball was the best bit of the night though, what a little scrapper lol - should have had the decision too.
I’ll still be shocked if Fury gets in the ring with Usyk let alone AJ
He looked in good shape in the pictures and footage over there. From a British perspective, hopefully Fury beats Usyk and then fights Joshua at Wembley (more likely to be in Saudi though).
Post by: ozzjim on March 09, 2024, 02:09:58 PM
Post by: nigel on March 09, 2024, 11:23:54 PM
Don’t be fooled, he will be well up for Usyk and AJ.
Post by: Rory on March 11, 2024, 01:18:06 AM
Disagree, Fury didn’t take the Ngannou fight seriously and almost paid the price.
Don’t be fooled, he will be well up for Usyk and AJ.
I have to agree.
I think Fury beats Usyk on size alone. I think he'll move him around, attack on the outside and disrupt his rhythm. (If not, Usyk is an even more accomplished fighter than I thought, and I rate him very highly already.)
I think Fury beats Joshua on unpredictability. AJ looks better against more technical opponents because as a late developer and Olympian, he has been taught to pick apart fighters who adopt a technical approach.
Taking no credit away from AJ whatsoever, because it was a proper demolition job, he clearly saw Ngannou was trying to 'box', but wasn't moving his head and was dropping his left after throwing a shot, leaving him open to the right cross and hook. He executed beautifully, but no way would Fury's head be in the kind of space you'd expect it to be in for a man fighting technically correct - he fights intuitively and his head could be fucking anywhere.
Post by: Rory on March 11, 2024, 01:23:09 AM
Let’s see if Mike Tyson does that to Jake Paul in the latest farce fight
The saddest thing about that fight isn't that I think Tyson should be above it; but I think Jake Paul should be above it.
I hate 'influencer boxers', but Paul has at least shown he has technique and power. He shouldn't be fighting a 57-year old. Even if, 35 years ago, that 57-year old was one of the best fighters the sport has seen.
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 11, 2024, 03:00:39 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 16, 2024, 06:57:40 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 16, 2024, 10:21:50 PM
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 16, 2024, 11:17:51 PM
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 17, 2024, 12:21:30 AM
Post by: Gareth on March 17, 2024, 12:26:36 AM
Post by: Villa Lew on March 17, 2024, 12:31:11 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 17, 2024, 12:46:10 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 18, 2024, 12:35:14 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2024, 08:41:23 PM
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Post by: Gareth on March 22, 2024, 09:56:07 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2024, 10:06:02 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 22, 2024, 10:25:35 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2024, 10:28:13 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 22, 2024, 10:29:52 PM
That's what boxing is all about. 33 years old, a pro for thirteen years, 17-10-2. Cut, lost the first two rounds and won in the sixth.
He threw a serious amount of punches as well….whirlwind
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2024, 10:54:17 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 22, 2024, 11:04:06 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2024, 11:58:38 PM
Was a good interview…I want to see him fight the European champ also now :-)
That would be a good match up.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 23, 2024, 09:32:39 PM
Post by: nigel on March 30, 2024, 01:38:55 PM
I remembered that he was pretty good, too, but never really achieved what he was, undoubtedly, capable of.
I’d forgotten, until I googled him, that he’d beaten Roberto Duran.
He sadly passed away in 2021
Post by: Simon Page on March 31, 2024, 02:24:02 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on March 31, 2024, 07:41:21 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 31, 2024, 09:53:52 PM
Don't know anything about Frazer Clarke's opponent tonight Fabio Wardley, other than he's won all his 17 fights, with 16 stoppages, hopefully it's gonna be a good fight.
He's got more pro experience despite being younger and Boxing News have tipped him to win with a late stoppage.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 31, 2024, 10:09:39 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 31, 2024, 10:14:27 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2024, 10:17:12 PM
Saved by the bell but Clarke will do well to pull this back
Yep. Wardley starting to boss it a bit.
Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2024, 10:22:48 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 31, 2024, 10:25:29 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2024, 10:30:21 PM
He does. I've got it 76-74.
Nose injury looks a bad one.
Post by: Gareth on March 31, 2024, 10:37:50 PM
He does. I've got it 76-74.
Nose injury looks a bad one.
The ring floor looks like a Jackson Pollock
Post by: Villa Lew on March 31, 2024, 10:41:05 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2024, 10:41:48 PM
Great fight could be a draw
Good chance of that I'd say.
Post by: Gareth on March 31, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
Happily watch that again
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 31, 2024, 10:53:43 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 31, 2024, 11:11:30 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on April 01, 2024, 12:02:13 AM
Was a class fight….how domestic scene should be sorted out. Get it on again hopefully
Yep and a big event for for a fight that was not a world title contest.
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 01, 2024, 12:40:37 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 05, 2024, 08:50:02 AM
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 15, 2024, 06:16:31 PM
Post by: Gareth on April 15, 2024, 08:38:40 PM
Willie Limmond has died ten days after a brain seizure. He was 45.
Just read that, mad so young! Very decent fighter in his day RIP
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2024, 09:50:15 PM
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2024, 11:51:55 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on April 20, 2024, 11:57:43 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 21, 2024, 12:12:38 AM
Post by: nigel on May 11, 2024, 04:40:35 PM
Just read a bit about Lauren, what an amazing athlete she is.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 11, 2024, 04:51:02 PM
Looks like there could be a classic this evening when Lauren Price fights champion Jessica McGaskill.
Just read a bit about Lauren, what an amazing athlete she is.
I never realised what she had done before boxing until recently. Massive respect, that's where dedication gets you.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 11, 2024, 10:27:34 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 11, 2024, 11:42:28 PM
Post by: nigel on May 12, 2024, 08:12:32 AM
Well worth her win, totally dominated McGaskill.
Reminds me a bit of Joe Calzaghe’s relentless style
Post by: manic-road on May 13, 2024, 02:40:48 PM
Post by: Risso on May 14, 2024, 08:21:03 AM
Post by: Rotterdam on May 14, 2024, 08:29:26 AM
Post by: Lsvilla on May 14, 2024, 08:46:29 AM
Post by: Gareth on May 14, 2024, 10:31:11 AM
John Fury is completely nuts. his 'We are fighting people' is hilarious.
No publicity is bad publicity when there is PPV to sell
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 18, 2024, 08:46:44 AM
Can any of you boxing officianados tell me whether I should be watching this must see unifier or whether the whole thing is a sham and a farce. Thanks.
Fury's a bit of a gobshite but his fights are almost always entertaining. This could be one of the all-time classics.
Post by: nigel on May 18, 2024, 09:00:16 AM
Post by: Lsvilla on May 18, 2024, 09:01:52 AM
Thanks. I'll be watching.Can any of you boxing officianados tell me whether I should be watching this must see unifier or whether the whole thing is a sham and a farce. Thanks.
Fury's a bit of a gobshite but his fights are almost always entertaining. This could be one of the all-time classics.
Post by: Villa Lew on May 18, 2024, 09:27:26 AM
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on May 18, 2024, 09:59:08 AM
They’re both outstanding boxers, might be a case of a ‘good big ‘un beats a good little ‘un’
Prediction - Fury to win on points narrowly, and it’s close enough and just about entertaining enough for Usyk and the public to demand a rematch.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on May 18, 2024, 10:17:38 AM
Post by: Risso on May 18, 2024, 01:19:27 PM
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 18, 2024, 04:40:05 PM
Fury weighed in at his lightest for 4 years. Hope he hasn’t overdone it.
18st against 16st , that is quite a difference
Post by: Lsvilla on May 18, 2024, 04:43:06 PM
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 18, 2024, 04:56:33 PM
Post by: Gareth on May 18, 2024, 06:29:46 PM
Post by: luke95 on May 18, 2024, 06:38:49 PM
What time can we expect the ring walks ?Scheduled for 11pm
Post by: Lsvilla on May 18, 2024, 06:58:32 PM
Thanks. Let's hope they're more prompt than AJ - wasn't he about half past midnight ?What time can we expect the ring walks ?Scheduled for 11pm
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 18, 2024, 09:11:27 PM
Post by: Rory on May 18, 2024, 09:14:24 PM
Just showed Gerard on telly in the dressing room with Fury.
Giving him a pep talk, maybe. Time to place your bets on Usyk!
Post by: Smirker on May 18, 2024, 09:20:38 PM
Thank you.
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 18, 2024, 09:20:39 PM
Just showed Gerard on telly in the dressing room with Fury.
Giving him a pep talk, maybe. Time to place your bets on Usyk!
Looking him in the eyes.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 18, 2024, 09:48:22 PM
Post by: Smirker on May 18, 2024, 09:56:37 PM
Won't be watching it live, but hope Fury wins. Watching the build-up earlier, I was surprised at how old Lennox Lewis is looking.
Same, looks quite frail.
Post by: Ducksworthy on May 18, 2024, 10:58:05 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on May 18, 2024, 11:03:53 PM
Post by: aldridgeboy on May 18, 2024, 11:12:46 PM
I guess the bonus though, is we get 11 pm fights not 5 am fights like Vegas. Not that the atmosphere in Vegas is amazing
Post by: Rory on May 18, 2024, 11:16:50 PM
If any of you have a body of running water you can send to my inbox I would very much appreciate it.
Thank you.
Same, if anybody has one.
Post by: tomd2103 on May 18, 2024, 11:26:34 PM
Post by: Ducksworthy on May 18, 2024, 11:26:44 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 18, 2024, 11:27:29 PM
Post by: Rory on May 18, 2024, 11:37:57 PM
Post by: olaftab on May 18, 2024, 11:56:50 PM
Post by: aldridgeboy on May 18, 2024, 11:57:06 PM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 18, 2024, 11:57:43 PM
Post by: aldridgeboy on May 19, 2024, 12:04:55 AM
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:05:11 AM
Post by: aldridgeboy on May 19, 2024, 12:05:24 AM
The fat lad in the cheerleader skirt isn't shining so far
Do we get a scooooooorchio if he knocks him down ?
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:08:48 AM
Post by: Ducksworthy on May 19, 2024, 12:09:15 AM
Last two rounds to Fury I reckon, seems to be getting better.
Yes, Usyk looked quite wobbly for a while then.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 19, 2024, 12:10:47 AM
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:12:55 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:13:37 AM
Post by: Ducksworthy on May 19, 2024, 12:13:54 AM
You can tell these two are a class apart from everybody else in the division.
Don’t know what you’re on about, I’d much rather watch something with big names like KSI or Jake Paul.
Post by: olaftab on May 19, 2024, 12:16:33 AM
😂You can tell these two are a class apart from everybody else in the division.
Don’t know what you’re on about, I’d much rather watch something with big names like KSI or Jake Paul.
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:20:48 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:21:01 AM
Post by: tomd2103 on May 19, 2024, 12:25:16 AM
Post by: olaftab on May 19, 2024, 12:26:15 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:29:52 AM
Post by: olaftab on May 19, 2024, 12:34:56 AM
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:38:39 AM
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 19, 2024, 12:38:40 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:39:20 AM
Post by: tomd2103 on May 19, 2024, 12:39:24 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:40:43 AM
Post by: Risso on May 19, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 19, 2024, 12:43:25 AM
Not sure about a 3 round round difference, but deserved winner.
Two rounds and an extra point for the knockdown. That's how I scored it as well.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 12:43:27 AM
I'm going for a surprise Usyk win by knock-out.
We were about 10 seconds from this happening. Really glad I had a good stream for this. Quality fight to watch and I think the decision was just about right. Not sure about Fury saying the war influenced the decision. I'm not a fan of the Fury family but I can't deny his talent.
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 12:44:54 AM
Looking forward to the rematch and I think Fury has it in him to win with a bit more invention, but wow, what an incredible boxer Usyk is.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2024, 12:47:57 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/VPZT05FZgg0AAAAM/trip-bambi.gif)
Post by: Villa Lew on May 19, 2024, 12:48:29 AM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 12:49:38 AM
Incredible figjt between 2 brilliant boxers with the correct winner in the end. Fury trying to claim Usyk was benefitiing from a sympathy vote made him look a tad pathetic though
Post by: bilsim on May 19, 2024, 12:50:00 AM
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 12:50:44 AM
Replay of Tyson Fury in that round
(https://media.tenor.com/VPZT05FZgg0AAAAM/trip-bambi.gif)
To be fair, he did well to stay up when you see how many shots he took.
Thanks for the stream, by the way 🙂
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 12:56:23 AM
Usyk by 3 for me. Just got stronger and stronger as the fight went on and if it were not for the magnitude of the occasion I think the ref would have stopped it at the end of the 9th.
Incredible figjt between 2 brilliant boxers with the correct winner in the end. Fury trying to claim Usyk was benefitiing from a sympathy vote made him look a tad pathetic though
He is good at looking a tit (outside of his boxing ability). I don't agree at all that it was a Usyk by 3 fight though. Just the one for me, at a push 2.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 12:59:56 AM
Usyk by 3 for me. Just got stronger and stronger as the fight went on and if it were not for the magnitude of the occasion I think the ref would have stopped it at the end of the 9th.
Incredible figjt between 2 brilliant boxers with the correct winner in the end. Fury trying to claim Usyk was benefitiing from a sympathy vote made him look a tad pathetic though
He is good at looking a tit (outside of his boxing ability). I don't agree at all that it was a Usyk by 3 fight though. Just the one for me, at a push 2.
I think Usyk was pretty dominant from the 8th round on. I had him winning everyone of those rounds with a 10-8 9th. I had Usyk winning the first two rounds and Fury winning rounds 3 to 7
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 01:04:02 AM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 01:07:02 AM
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 01:16:36 AM
Fair enough, I didn't quite see it that way. Guess that's why you need 3 judges!
I didn't have it as wide as three rounds either, but I don't think Fury can have any complaints.
Post by: ozzjim on May 19, 2024, 01:17:23 AM
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 01:22:37 AM
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 01:29:35 AM
I was worried they were going to give it Fury on the scorecards but thankfully sense prevailed. Not sure what to make of the ref jumping in to stop Usyk hitting him again when still on his feet and it not being the end of the fight. Surely he could have stepped in at any point while he was dreamwalking around the ring and thus not conveniently got Fury to the bell and a chance to recover. Did bloody well to do so though, fair play to him.
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Yeah, I'm unsure about the ref jumping in there as well but the comms didn't really bring it up. I guess safety, but that fight is over if he doesn't step in.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 01:30:51 AM
The guardian round by round had it by 5 for Usyk which is excessive. 2 to 3 points is about right
5?! I'll have to check that out.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 01:34:27 AM
I was worried they were going to give it Fury on the scorecards but thankfully sense prevailed. Not sure what to make of the ref jumping in to stop Usyk hitting him again when still on his feet and it not being the end of the fight. Surely he could have stepped in at any point while he was dreamwalking around the ring and thus not conveniently got Fury to the bell and a chance to recover. Did bloody well to do so though, fair play to him.
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Yeah, I'm unsure about the ref jumping in there as well but the comms didn't really bring it up. I guess safety, but that fight is over if he doesn't step in.
Surely if the ref feels the need to step in, he should be doing so with the intention of stopping the fight.
I genuinely think that any other fight on the card and it would have been stopped. Fury was wide open unable to defend himself
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 01:36:58 AM
The guardian round by round had it by 5 for Usyk which is excessive. 2 to 3 points is about right
5?! I'll have to check that out.
Shows how close it really was, because TNT had it as a draw or Fury by one round.
Five wasn't reflective of the fight I saw.
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 01:42:57 AM
I was worried they were going to give it Fury on the scorecards but thankfully sense prevailed. Not sure what to make of the ref jumping in to stop Usyk hitting him again when still on his feet and it not being the end of the fight. Surely he could have stepped in at any point while he was dreamwalking around the ring and thus not conveniently got Fury to the bell and a chance to recover. Did bloody well to do so though, fair play to him.
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Yeah, I'm unsure about the ref jumping in there as well but the comms didn't really bring it up. I guess safety, but that fight is over if he doesn't step in.
Surely if the ref feels the need to step in, he should be doing so with the intention of stopping the fight.
I genuinely think that any other fight on the card and it would have been stopped. Fury was wide open unable to defend himself
Not sure I agree, but I think we each see the same point differently. You see it that the ref intervened to protect Fury and should therefore have ended the fight; I see it that the ref (correctly, in my opinion) scored it as a knockdown and a 10-8 round even though Fury hadn't actually hit the canvas.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 01:46:00 AM
I was worried they were going to give it Fury on the scorecards but thankfully sense prevailed. Not sure what to make of the ref jumping in to stop Usyk hitting him again when still on his feet and it not being the end of the fight. Surely he could have stepped in at any point while he was dreamwalking around the ring and thus not conveniently got Fury to the bell and a chance to recover. Did bloody well to do so though, fair play to him.
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Yeah, I'm unsure about the ref jumping in there as well but the comms didn't really bring it up. I guess safety, but that fight is over if he doesn't step in.
Surely if the ref feels the need to step in, he should be doing so with the intention of stopping the fight.
I genuinely think that any other fight on the card and it would have been stopped. Fury was wide open unable to defend himself
Not sure I agree, but I think we each see the same point differently. You see it that the ref intervened to protect Fury and should therefore have ended the fight; I see it that the ref (correctly, in my opinion) scored it as a knockdown and a 10-8 round even though Fury hadn't actually hit the canvas.
I think the ref should have stopped it because Fury was gone and unable to defend himself for a good 20+ seconds. I maintain that any other fight on the card the same scenario would have been a ref stoppage.
I take the point about the standing 8 count and you are correct but I don't think it should have been allowed to get that far
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 01:47:21 AM
The guardian round by round had it by 5 for Usyk which is excessive. 2 to 3 points is about right
5?! I'll have to check that out.
Shows how close it really was, because TNT had it as a draw or Fury by one round.
Five wasn't reflective of the fight I saw.
I agree. 3 points seemed about right to me. 2 would have been fair enough also.
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 02:23:39 AM
I was worried they were going to give it Fury on the scorecards but thankfully sense prevailed. Not sure what to make of the ref jumping in to stop Usyk hitting him again when still on his feet and it not being the end of the fight. Surely he could have stepped in at any point while he was dreamwalking around the ring and thus not conveniently got Fury to the bell and a chance to recover. Did bloody well to do so though, fair play to him.
Usyk is a very very classy operator. Fury spent much of the night giving Usyk every reason to want to smack him.
Yeah, I'm unsure about the ref jumping in there as well but the comms didn't really bring it up. I guess safety, but that fight is over if he doesn't step in.
Surely if the ref feels the need to step in, he should be doing so with the intention of stopping the fight.
I genuinely think that any other fight on the card and it would have been stopped. Fury was wide open unable to defend himself
Not sure I agree, but I think we each see the same point differently. You see it that the ref intervened to protect Fury and should therefore have ended the fight; I see it that the ref (correctly, in my opinion) scored it as a knockdown and a 10-8 round even though Fury hadn't actually hit the canvas.
I think the ref should have stopped it because Fury was gone and unable to defend himself for a good 20+ seconds. I maintain that any other fight on the card the same scenario would have been a ref stoppage.
I take the point about the standing 8 count and you are correct but I don't think it should have been allowed to get that far
I can understand that, fully. I just think it would've been a soft stoppage, personally. The right man won in the end.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 19, 2024, 02:26:31 AM
Post by: Rory on May 19, 2024, 03:00:14 AM
Maybe. I do remember George Groves being stopped in his first fight against Froch and Fury took a lot more undefended shots in that spell tonight. I think some boxing ref's can be a bit swayed by the occasion and give fighters in such massive fights more leeway than they would in say a British title fight
No you're quite right there, but that Groves stoppage was rightly considered a bit of an outrage.
Fury was hurt, but was focused on trying to move rather than trying to defend, and on unsteady legs, I think he appeared more hurt than he was. A lot of it was loss of balance as opposed to more serious injury, which I think the next three rounds showed.
Although I was surprised the ref didn't really make Fury walk, he just did the eye test.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 19, 2024, 08:42:35 AM
Post by: Gareth on May 19, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
Just need Leeds to fall apart like normal to make it better :-)
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 19, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
I agreed with the comms when they said it was a 3 round shoot-out after the 9th as I had it at 5-5. I think Usyk won the 10th, but then the 11th and 12th I don't really have a strong opinion of eitherway.
Post by: ozzjim on May 19, 2024, 02:50:20 PM
The ref could have taken into account that Fury has incredible powers of recovery. He's seemed on the verge in a few fights only to rally and end up the winner.
I think it probably played a part, but should it? Fury was as gone as you get, he steps on just as Usyk has a free hit to send him to the floor. I don't reckon he's making that count. He starts the count 15 seconds earlier, I'm not sure he's making the end of the round. As it was it was perfectly timed, probably through circumstance, to enable Fury the max time to recover.
I also think, as others have said, once the ref steps in to stop someone finishing the job, they are essentially stopping the fight.
Post by: Drummond on May 20, 2024, 01:05:11 PM
One other thing, wasn't it a 10 count as well? So he should have been done there too.
Post by: ozzjim on May 20, 2024, 01:21:55 PM
Surely if the ref is stepping in there it's to end the fight? I'm not sure I've seen a ref, in a title fight, letting a fighter take a standing count because he looks a bit hurt? Fury hadn't touched down, was on the verge of it so either it carries on and he's eventually put down, or the ref stops it as he's in no fit state to continue.
One other thing, wasn't it a 10 count as well? So he should have been done there too.
Exactly what I said to my lad as it happens. One more blow and Fury isn't making the count from the canvas in my opinion. He gave him the 10 count then asked if he was OK and the bell went. Very well saved by the ref
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2024, 01:33:47 PM
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 20, 2024, 02:05:37 PM
Post by: Drummond on May 20, 2024, 02:36:32 PM
If the ropes keep a fighter from going down the ref can rule a knockdown and give a count.
Yep, I get that, still not sure but I can get that argument completely. How about the count of 10 though?
Post by: Villa Lew on May 24, 2024, 10:24:09 PM
Post by: nigel on May 25, 2024, 11:14:24 AM
Wow 3 knock downs from Okolie, before winning it in the first round.
Bridgerweight?
How long has that been around? Never heard it before
Slots in between Cruiser and Heavy by the sound of it.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 31, 2024, 11:55:22 PM
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The fight between YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul and former world champion Mike Tyson on 20 July in Texas has been postponed.
The bout at Arlington's AT&T Stadium, home of the NFL's Dallas Cowboys, had been officially sanctioned as a professional fight but Tyson, 57, says he has been unable to train after a recent ulcer flare up.
"Unfortunately, due to my ulcer flareup, I have been advised by my doctor to lighten my training for a few weeks to rest and recover," said Tyson.
"My body is in better overall shape than it has been since the 1990s and I will be back to my full training schedule soon."
Organisers have not mentioned light-welterweight champion Katie Taylor's rematch with Amanda Serrano, which was due to take place on the same night, but it is anticipated it will also be moved with the rest of the card.
Most Valuable Promotions (MVP), who are staging the event at the 80,000 capacity stadium alongside Netflix, said a new date for the fight will be announced on 7 June.
"The recommendation is for Mike Tyson to do minimal to light training over the next few weeks and then return to full training with no limitations," MVP said.
"Both Mike and Jake are in agreement that it is only fair to ensure that both athletes have equal training time to prepare for this important match and are able to compete at the highest level.
"The health and wellbeing of athletes is our top priority, and we fully support Mike in taking the necessary time to allow him to perform at the level he expects of himself."
Tyson, who would have turned 58 at the time of the fight and whose professional career ended in 2005, most recently competed in an exhibition bout in 2020.
He was the first heavyweight boxer to simultaneously hold the WBA, WBC and IBF titles in 1987 but his reign as unified champion came to a shock end in 1990 as he was beaten by Buster Douglas in one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.
Paul, 27, is 30 years younger than Tyson and has won nine of his 10 fights, mostly against former UFC fighters, with his solitary defeat coming against British boxer Tommy Fury in February 2023.
He added: "I fully support postponing the event so Mike Tyson has no excuses come fight night."
Paul said he did not want to face Tyson "at anything but his best".
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on June 01, 2024, 12:05:28 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 01, 2024, 12:12:01 AM
Post by: Rory on June 01, 2024, 12:31:06 AM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
I imagine Paul has done everything he can to avoid watching such videos. The whole affair is grotesque. What next; dig up Frazier and see how his corpse does against Andrew Tate?
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on June 01, 2024, 01:03:25 AM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
I imagine Paul has done everything he can to avoid watching such videos. The whole affair is grotesque. What next; dig up Frazier and see how his corpse does against Andrew Tate?
Replace 'Frazier' with 'Chernobyl Fireman', then you're on to something.
Post by: Rory on June 01, 2024, 01:27:53 AM
Tyson in his prime vs Jake Paul? I'd like to think somebody, somewhere would've stopped it from happening. Proper body donation territory.
Post by: Risso on June 01, 2024, 03:54:01 PM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
It's mental to think that in 1985 and 86, Tyson fought and won 28 times.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 01, 2024, 03:56:23 PM
Post by: Risso on June 01, 2024, 04:38:51 PM
In fairness those fights lasted a total of about 15 mins!
There is that! It's still funny to think though that even if you disregard the chaff he was fighting at the start, (like three fights in Nov '85), between Nov '86 and June '88 (a little over a year and a half) he fought and beat all of Berbick, James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs and Michael Spinks. Eight fights against people who were nearly all heavyweight champion at one point or another. Incredible stuff. You'd be lucky to get one of those a year now.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 01, 2024, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on June 02, 2024, 12:39:24 AM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 02, 2024, 12:44:20 AM
Well done Dubois, sounds like it was a cracking fight.
Its been a great card in fairness. If I'd have actually paid the box office fee then I wouldn't feel cheated.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on June 02, 2024, 12:45:56 AM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
It's mental to think that in 1985 and 86, Tyson fought and won 28 times.
Fuck off! I never knew that. Apart from them being quick, why was that? Or was it normal to have a few more than 2/3 a year back then?
Post by: Rory on June 02, 2024, 02:48:16 AM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
It's mental to think that in 1985 and 86, Tyson fought and won 28 times.
Fuck off! I never knew that. Apart from them being quick, why was that? Or was it normal to have a few more than 2/3 a year back then?
Tyson fought a lot early on because he didn't have a particularly extensive senior amateur career, so he was building experience. For the sake of comparison, Tyson was a pro at 18; Usyk didn't turn pro until he was 26.
Plus in those days it was politically more difficult to get title fights, with organised crime still heavily involved in promotion and fewer belts on offer, so it wasn't uncommon for a fighter to need 20-25 fights before getting a shot at a title. These days it's more like 10-15, sometimes fewer. Depending on the results, of course.
Also, frankly, I think Tyson and his team were so confident that he'd beat anyone put in front of him that they agreed any fight that came their way.
He'd had as many professional fights before turning age 23 as Tyson Fury has had in his career. (With the laughably good record of 36 fights, 36 wins, 32 by KO or TKO.)
Post by: manic-road on June 02, 2024, 07:54:40 AM
https://x.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1797062799413104886
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 02, 2024, 10:59:32 AM
That should be the end for Wilder now, can't see him boxing again after last nights fight.
https://x.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1797062799413104886
There was still talk of him fighting Joshua before last night. That would have been a bloodbath despite how Joshua has fallen away
Post by: Villa Lew on June 02, 2024, 12:56:06 PM
Post by: nigel on June 02, 2024, 12:57:17 PM
That should be the end for Wilder now, can't see him boxing again after last nights fight.
https://x.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1797062799413104886
There was still talk of him fighting Joshua before last night. That would have been a bloodbath despite how Joshua has fallen away
Don’t think he really recovered from his two defeats to Fury
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on June 02, 2024, 05:28:41 PM
Imagine Paul against a younger Tyson at his peak
It's mental to think that in 1985 and 86, Tyson fought and won 28 times.
Fuck off! I never knew that. Apart from them being quick, why was that? Or was it normal to have a few more than 2/3 a year back then?
Tyson fought a lot early on because he didn't have a particularly extensive senior amateur career, so he was building experience. For the sake of comparison, Tyson was a pro at 18; Usyk didn't turn pro until he was 26.
Plus in those days it was politically more difficult to get title fights, with organised crime still heavily involved in promotion and fewer belts on offer, so it wasn't uncommon for a fighter to need 20-25 fights before getting a shot at a title. These days it's more like 10-15, sometimes fewer. Depending on the results, of course.
Also, frankly, I think Tyson and his team were so confident that he'd beat anyone put in front of him that they agreed any fight that came their way.
He'd had as many professional fights before turning age 23 as Tyson Fury has had in his career. (With the laughably good record of 36 fights, 36 wins, 32 by KO or TKO.)
Cheers for that, really interesting.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 02, 2024, 05:45:30 PM
Post by: Rory on June 02, 2024, 09:04:52 PM
There was also the burning aim to become the youngest-ever world heavyweight champion, which he just failed to manage. Frank Bruno a few years earlier had 21 fights in his first two years and won them all inside the distance.
True so, that's an important point that I missed!
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 02, 2024, 10:44:04 PM
Joshu's next fight has to be against Dubois, that's the fight the British public want to see.
I wouldn’t have thought it is. A small section of the boxing fraternity might want it, but I doubt there’s all that much demand.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on June 03, 2024, 12:31:15 AM
Post by: Rory on June 03, 2024, 12:48:30 AM
Wilder's corner shouting "He ain't got nutin'" and "bag him up" repeatedly was making me laugh. Zhang was very much not "bagged up".
Zhang is a strong lad! Wilder looked like a rag doll in there.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2024, 08:26:54 PM
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 16, 2024, 10:58:46 AM
The 2 judges who had in 115-112 in Smith's favour must have been incredibly pissed. Riakpohre won 2, at absolute most 3 rounds and had a point deducted by the referee.
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on June 16, 2024, 11:52:59 AM
Will be very interesting to see how he goes when stepped on in class, will he get away with all the saftness.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 16, 2024, 08:35:34 PM
Not quite sure what to make of Ben Whittaker. He reminds me somewhat of Thomas Hearns physically but with a Kirkland Laing fighting style.
Will be very interesting to see how he goes when stepped on in class, will he get away with all the saftness.
Probably not, but at the moment he's raising interest mainly amongst people wanting to see him lose.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 20, 2024, 01:48:21 AM
https://thebirminghampress.com/2024/06/fighting-on-the-streets-of-birmingham/
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2024, 11:20:43 PM
Good performance from Denny
Unsatisfactory ending though.
Post by: Gareth on June 23, 2024, 01:33:30 PM
Good performance from Denny
Unsatisfactory ending though.
Yep, Denny deserved the chance to get him properly out of there….pundits were as scathing as I’ve seen for Cash
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2024, 11:48:20 PM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 25, 2024, 12:58:39 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 25, 2024, 12:59:24 AM
I don't really follow boxing but stumbled upon a post about Sam Eggington. Is he Villa as when I looked him up I see he's a Brummie that's fought at VP 5 or 6 times?
Stripey.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 25, 2024, 01:02:40 AM
Didn't know VP had so much boxing.
Post by: Rory on June 25, 2024, 01:16:51 AM
Glad he got battered in the post I saw then!
Didn't know VP had so much boxing.
It's been mentioned before, but:
On 28 June 1948, Dick Turpin, brother of Randolph Turpin, became the first non-white boxer to win a British title in a fight against Vince Hawkins in front of 40,000 spectators (at Villa Park) after the British Boxing Board of Control lifted their ban on non-whites challenging for titles
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 25, 2024, 01:43:36 AM
Glad he got battered in the post I saw then!
Didn't know VP had so much boxing.
It's at the Holte Suite. Eggington's one of the most exciting fighters in the country.
Post by: Rory on June 25, 2024, 02:00:49 AM
Glad he got battered in the post I saw then!
Didn't know VP had so much boxing.
It's at the Holte Suite. Eggington's one of the most exciting fighters in the country.
True so.
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https://thebirminghampress.com/2024/07/heaney-detonated-by-the-newquay-bomb/
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 03, 2024, 01:54:06 PM
https://x.com/total_villa/status/1819111906101416043?s=46&t=fPyiXcae7CCzHj_x8UdphA
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Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2024, 02:03:25 PM
In real boxing there's a good article on Wayne Elcock in the current Boxing News. https://boxingnewsonline.net/wayne-elcock-is-helping-the-next-generation-turn-their-lives-around/
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Post by: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2024, 08:58:05 PM
Very impressive from Sheeraz, but stoppage was a tad early.
The sort that was early but perhaps merciful. Tyler Denny is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet but he was outclassed tonight.
Post by: Ducksworthy on September 21, 2024, 09:44:01 PM
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Post by: Ducksworthy on September 21, 2024, 10:10:48 PM
Anybody going for Dubois, I have changed my mind a couple of times, but going for AJ around the 8th.
I don’t gamble but someone I’m with does and asked me to pick so I’ve gone with this in the 8th. He’ll make a princely £27.50 if it comes good.
Post by: Ducksworthy on September 21, 2024, 10:12:23 PM
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Post by: Risso on September 21, 2024, 10:14:28 PM
Bell saved him.
Not sure it will on the 2nd. He’s getting a beating.
Post by: Risso on September 21, 2024, 10:17:10 PM
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 21, 2024, 10:22:50 PM
Joshua looks like he doesn’t know what day it is.
Probably knows now he's yesterday's man.
Post by: Risso on September 21, 2024, 10:24:26 PM
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 21, 2024, 10:26:58 PM
About the best you can say about Joshua is he’s still on his feet.
Well he was.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 21, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
Come on Dubois, smash his face in.
Ta da.
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2024, 10:27:43 PM
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Post by: Risso on September 21, 2024, 10:29:49 PM
Come on Dubois, smash his face in.
Ta da.
I think that can accurately be described as smashing his face in.
Post by: Villa Lew on September 21, 2024, 10:30:07 PM
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Post by: PaulWinch again on September 21, 2024, 10:51:06 PM
Post by: rob_bridge on September 21, 2024, 10:53:51 PM
At his worst he looks like those 2 at their worst.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 21, 2024, 10:56:40 PM
That must be it for Joshua now? Made his money, time to go on Celebrity SAS or become one of the Gladiators.
He'll be on Strictly this time next year.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 21, 2024, 10:57:52 PM
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Post by: TonyD on September 22, 2024, 12:31:57 AM
That was brilliant from DuboisIndeed
Reminded me a bit of Tyson.
Post by: TonyD on September 22, 2024, 12:38:17 AM
Instead he got totally boxed to the canvas.
We should be looking and praising by our Dubois
Post by: Rory on September 22, 2024, 02:03:32 AM
Otherwise, clinical from Dubois, and the counter to finish it was beautiful.
Post by: Demitri_C on September 22, 2024, 08:18:11 AM
AJs done. No one cares about him and wilder anymore. Both finished ans fury will be same if he loses rematch
Post by: tomd2103 on September 22, 2024, 09:20:05 AM
What was that bollocks with the Saudis before the fight? It's bad enough so much boxing (and sport in general) is being bought up by that murderous regime, but now people are sucking up to them when the event isn't even in Saudi Arabia?
Thought I heard something before the fight saying its was basically a Saudi event (Riyadh season or something like that) "Wembley edition".
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 22, 2024, 09:25:28 AM
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Post by: edgysatsuma89 on September 22, 2024, 01:45:12 PM
Joshua should not have been caught for the first knockdown. That punch had to travel a long way.
Otherwise, clinical from Dubois, and the counter to finish it was beautiful.
I've only just seen the highlights, that first punch is baffling. I can only assume AJ really thought he didn't have the reach on that shot to catch him as surely he doesn't let that hit him 99 times out of a hundred?
Post by: Risso on September 22, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
Post by: LeeB on September 22, 2024, 02:16:03 PM
Joshua was always a triumph of hype over substance. He's had some decent wins, but he's nowhere near to being one of the greats. Looking at him you'd think he should be able to box like Lennox Lewis, but he's actually more on a par with David Haye.
He's always come across as massively insecure when he talks, like he's trying to hide it (obviously given his profession) but the harder he tries the more obvious it is.
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on September 22, 2024, 02:17:37 PM
Joshua was always a triumph of hype over substance. He's had some decent wins, but he's nowhere near to being one of the greats. Looking at him you'd think he should be able to box like Lennox Lewis, but he's actually more on a par with David Haye.
Joshua is starting to remind me of Audley Harrison.
Post by: Simon Page on September 22, 2024, 02:35:47 PM
As Risso mentioned, the hype doesn't help, especially when it comes to accurately assessing his ability.
Post by: Risso on September 22, 2024, 03:16:08 PM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2024, 03:24:58 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fQbMXpK/aj.jpg)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 22, 2024, 04:31:43 PM
At least he's a better breakdancer than that Australian girl at the Olympics
And she's the world No. 1.
Post by: Steve67 on September 22, 2024, 10:40:44 PM
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on September 22, 2024, 10:52:18 PM
At least he's a better breakdancer than that Australian girl at the Olympics
And she's the world No. 1.
I saw a news clip from Australia about this and I still don't understand how.
Post by: Rory on September 23, 2024, 01:01:20 AM
Joshua was always a triumph of hype over substance. He's had some decent wins, but he's nowhere near to being one of the greats. Looking at him you'd think he should be able to box like Lennox Lewis, but he's actually more on a par with David Haye.
The heavyweight Haye, I presume you mean?
I respect Joshua, but he's not as good a fighter at Heavy as Haye was at Cruiser. In my opinion.
Post by: Rory on September 23, 2024, 01:20:08 AM
A rematch in the. contract apparently. AJ will get hammered again if he looks as half arsed as he did last night.
With the benefit of having listened to the 5Live boxing podcast and rewatched the highlights, it is stark how low Joshua's gloves were and how high his chin was. I noticed the low guard during the fight but not the high chin.
As previously stated, no way should that first knockdown shot be landing; not in the first round, with full concentration.
Joshua was visibly carrying extra weight but did nothing to make use of it. Who adds weight and then decides to stay on the outside? Then, when you've already been clipped multiple times, instead of clinching, making use of your strength and targeting the body, go fishing for outlandish uppercuts that leave you open?
I reckon Ben Davison fucked up royally.
Post by: Risso on September 23, 2024, 09:01:37 AM
Post by: Steve67 on September 23, 2024, 09:37:18 PM
Post by: Rory on September 24, 2024, 01:26:39 AM
Apparently there is no rematch clause for Joshua and Dubois.
Problem presumably being that if Usyk beats Fury, is he going to be arsed to fight Dubois again instead of just retiring? Is the money and interest there for that fight? Perhaps, as it would be another unification fight.
If Fury beats Usyk, there will be a third fight between them.
If the latter happens, in the meantime, Dubois will want to stay active, so whom does he fight if not AJ? Who are his mandatories? Parker? Zhang?
If Fury loses again, does anybody care about AJ/Fury with no belts on the line? Not really, yet it would still probably be more profitable than Usyk/Dubois II.
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2024, 06:50:22 PM
Post by: aldridgeboy on September 30, 2024, 02:55:57 PM
Four Kings documentary on Prime. It’s excellent. The story of Benn, Eubank, Bruno and Lewis rivalries and the two week period where they fought each other ( the second Benn/Eubank)
Very good , with current day interviews with all, looking back.
Post by: Villa Lew on October 05, 2024, 06:43:15 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 05, 2024, 08:27:24 PM
Scouser Nick Ball defending his world title in Liverpool tonight.
Let me know what's happening - I'm out tonight.
Post by: Villa Lew on October 05, 2024, 10:46:47 PM
Post by: Gareth on October 05, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Ball v impressive so far though poss broke his nose (end of 7)
Post by: Gareth on October 05, 2024, 11:00:34 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on October 05, 2024, 11:03:33 PM
Post by: KNVillan on October 11, 2024, 10:10:41 PM
Bloody Hell! Frazer Clarke is a bit heavy for Saturdays fight according to Sky
(https://i.ibb.co/dgSY9Q9/IMG-3302.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dgSY9Q9)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2024, 11:05:14 AM
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2024, 08:01:27 PM
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 12, 2024, 09:16:57 PM
Tonight could be one of the all-time greats.
It could. I kind of tend towards Berbetiev but it's just a gut instinct.
However the sycophancy towards "his excellency" etc in the coverage is really off-putting. Ooh, someone just one a Mercedes jeep.
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2024, 09:30:20 PM
Post by: Rory on October 12, 2024, 09:33:56 PM
Sheeeeet.
A long, gruelling fight, that one...
Post by: Demitri_C on October 12, 2024, 10:36:40 PM
Post by: Gareth on October 12, 2024, 10:43:25 PM
I thought this was a boxing event not a music concert ?
Think music event is a stretch…terrible lip synching, followed by the old dude who I presume was Busta flanked by half of stavros flatley :-)
Post by: manic-road on October 12, 2024, 10:48:41 PM
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 12, 2024, 10:48:48 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on October 12, 2024, 10:59:08 PM
I thought this was a boxing event not a music concert ?
Think music event is a stretch…terrible lip synching, followed by the old dude who I presume was Busta flanked by half of stavros flatley :-)
Busta is a legend but man he looking old. He looked out of breath after Couple minutes
Post by: Rory on October 12, 2024, 11:46:04 PM
Post by: manic-road on October 12, 2024, 11:49:52 PM
Post by: manic-road on October 12, 2024, 11:51:51 PM
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 12, 2024, 11:53:07 PM
Post by: Rory on October 12, 2024, 11:55:34 PM
Post by: Gareth on October 12, 2024, 11:56:07 PM
Post by: manic-road on October 12, 2024, 11:56:54 PM
116-112 seems a bit wide!
Yes I agree, it was a hell of a lot closer than that.
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 13, 2024, 12:00:48 AM
Post by: Gareth on October 13, 2024, 04:24:24 PM
I like how the fighters avoided the shit talk in the interviews afterwards.
That utter plank Hearn did it instead…Hearn & Warren have spent the last decade stopping the best fighters fighting each other…the attention seeking toddler couldn’t bring himself to be magnanimous in defeat
Post by: Villa Lew on October 19, 2024, 10:01:07 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 26, 2024, 09:39:15 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 01, 2024, 10:30:20 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 02, 2024, 09:37:46 PM
Post by: Demitri_C on November 14, 2024, 06:11:41 PM
Tyson should not be taken this fight i think he is going to get seriously hurt
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 16, 2024, 04:19:43 AM
I had Serrano winning by 1 round but it was close either way
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 16, 2024, 05:02:26 AM
Post by: Rory on November 16, 2024, 05:25:13 AM
Now we have the circus. Already shaming the name of boxing.
At least Mayweather was still able to school McGregor. This is just a novelty act.
Post by: Rory on November 16, 2024, 05:31:45 AM
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 16, 2024, 05:39:15 AM
Thankfully the Taylor - Serrano fight more than made it worthwhile staying up for.
Post by: manic-road on November 16, 2024, 08:26:16 AM
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 16, 2024, 10:03:23 AM
Post by: Risso on November 16, 2024, 10:56:26 AM
Post by: Pete3206 on November 16, 2024, 09:34:58 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on November 16, 2024, 09:56:51 PM
Mike Tyson v Ivan Drago next. Christmas Day.What year are we talking about?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 16, 2024, 10:50:27 PM
Mike Tyson v Ivan Drago next. Christmas Day.
Does Mike play snooker?
Post by: Villa Lew on November 16, 2024, 11:19:41 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 16, 2024, 11:38:01 PM
Good effort from CBS, but Ramirez was too good.
I missed it but by all accounts both men did much to restore the reputation of the sport after last night's fiasco.
Post by: Villa Lew on November 17, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
Good effort from CBS, but Ramirez was too good.
I missed it but by all accounts both men did much to restore the reputation of the sport after last night's fiasco.
Absolutely Dave
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 17, 2024, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: thick_mike on November 17, 2024, 04:01:48 PM
https://www.espn.com/espn/eticket/story?page=091216/jimmyrobinson&redirected=true
Post by: Demitri_C on November 18, 2024, 10:24:31 AM
Yep, great fight.That main event was laughable. So glad i didnt stay up to watch perhaps one of the biggest flops in history
Now we have the circus. Already shaming the name of boxing.
At least Mayweather was still able to school McGregor. This is just a novelty act.
Post by: Gareth on November 22, 2024, 11:20:56 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 30, 2024, 08:34:56 PM
https://thebirminghampress.com/2024/11/sunny-edwards-and-galal-yafai-promoter-cant-choose/
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 30, 2024, 11:11:01 PM
Post by: Gareth on December 01, 2024, 12:16:42 PM
Post by: Risso on December 01, 2024, 12:55:53 PM
A few words about tonight:
https://thebirminghampress.com/2024/11/sunny-edwards-and-galal-yafai-promoter-cant-choose/
Did you mean to post the same Eddie Hearn quote three times, looks like something's gone wrong there.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2024, 05:50:52 PM
Never heard a fighter say he didn’t want to be there before
Or a trainer saying his opponent was tiring punching him in the face.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2024, 07:43:03 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on December 07, 2024, 11:31:06 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 08, 2024, 01:14:30 PM
Tremendous fight Denzel Bentley and Brad Pauls, deserved win for Bentley.
I had it 115-112 so the knockdown made a massive difference. I can't see Bentley getting much past European level but he's a decent fighter. Okolie was impressive as well.
Post by: Risso on December 09, 2024, 11:42:40 AM
Tonight looks like a cracking bill.
A friend of a friend from the Isle of Man was on the bill, fighting for the English Welterweight title. Lost on points.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 09, 2024, 10:02:19 PM
Tonight looks like a cracking bill.
A friend of a friend from the Isle of Man was on the bill, fighting for the English Welterweight title. Lost on points.
I saw the second half of that one. He can't have any complaints about the verdict.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 15, 2024, 08:52:09 PM
Post by: aldridgeboy on December 17, 2024, 11:05:04 PM
I've just noticed that Dillian Whyte's fighting tonight.
I watched it today. He looked bang average, and very slow.
Post by: Rory on December 17, 2024, 11:33:24 PM
I've just noticed that Dillian Whyte's fighting tonight.
I watched it today. He looked bang average, and very slow.
Me too.
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on December 19, 2024, 07:18:21 PM
Post by: Rory on December 19, 2024, 09:42:07 PM
Usyk V Fury staring contest that'll probably last longer than the fight.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on December 20, 2024, 12:02:11 AM
Usyk V Fury staring contest that'll probably last longer than the fight.
Exactly what first came to my mind.
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 05:05:08 PM
A Usyk win and who knows. Could see Usyk retiring if he wins, as there would be nothing left for him to achieve really. It would probably leave AJ as the only real option for Fury if he wanted to carry on.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2024, 08:01:34 PM
Post by: Smirker on December 21, 2024, 08:10:50 PM
Fisher v Allen will be fun while it lasts.
Who do you think will win out of Fury and Usyk?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 21, 2024, 08:50:31 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2024, 08:52:52 PM
Fisher v Allen will be fun while it lasts.
Who do you think will win out of Fury and Usyk?
I can see Usyk by late stoppage or wide points. And that last fight was a fucking robbery.
Post by: Smirker on December 21, 2024, 08:58:43 PM
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 21, 2024, 09:02:42 PM
Post by: Rory on December 21, 2024, 09:18:56 PM
With the added weight, he must be looking to impose himself and use his physical advantages. We saw in the second Wilder fight how destructive he can be when he has that approach.
Either way, should lead to more proper exchanges and chances for Usyk to counter. Could be a cracker.
(Or I could be completely wrong and it could be a really boring shutout for Usyk, who knows?!)
Post by: andyh on December 21, 2024, 09:35:10 PM
My usual source has dried up.
Post by: Villa Lew on December 21, 2024, 09:36:38 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2024, 09:52:28 PM
Moses Itauma next only 19, this boy is megga impressive.
You could say that.
Post by: Villa Lew on December 21, 2024, 09:54:30 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: Ducksworthy on December 21, 2024, 10:45:52 PM
Fury's shorts surely can't be legal there? They're up by his chest!
Glad it isn’t just me who was thinking that!
Anyway what’s this with two actual boxers fighting? Why isn’t there a YouTuber involved? This will never catch on!
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 10:59:30 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 11:07:21 PM
Post by: Ducksworthy on December 21, 2024, 11:20:55 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 11:27:58 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2024, 11:28:03 PM
Post by: andyh on December 21, 2024, 11:32:14 PM
Clean and respectful from both.
It barely needed any intervention from the ref.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2024, 11:32:59 PM
Post by: tomd2103 on December 21, 2024, 11:34:50 PM
Fair play to Usyk, he's an incredible boxer.
Post by: Rory on December 21, 2024, 11:41:30 PM
Thought it was a closer fight than the first, but Fury can't have too many complaints. If he'd fought as he did in round 10 from the beginning, he might've stood a chance.
He used the jab a lot but it was completely limp, and when he followed up on it, it was with a single right hand. He barely let his hands go, and at times when he did, he didn't even look like a fighter. Some of the wild lead rights he was throwing looked like a 12 year old boy in the playground.
Whoever is advising him that the way to win a heavyweight fight is to stand off and at the height of adventure, to occasionally throw a double-jab-right-cross, has sold him down the river.
Credit to Usyk, the man is class, but over 24 rounds, Fury hasn't really given him a single question to answer.
Post by: Demitri_C on December 21, 2024, 11:46:09 PM
Unbelievably shit from tyese clown judges
Post by: Rory on December 21, 2024, 11:53:48 PM
That was a completely ridiculous decision.fury won four rounds only? Really???
Unbelievably shit from tyese clown judges
You're perilously close to calling Dave a clown there. And you don't want that, because he clearly has his telepathy working today - with the judges, at least. He might make your head explode.
Post by: Paul.S on December 22, 2024, 12:12:12 AM
Post by: ozzjim on December 22, 2024, 12:13:31 AM
Sadly we'll now get Fury Joshua 5 years too late. Fury will win, easily, and they will both get even richer.
Post by: Rory on December 22, 2024, 12:27:13 AM
Fury tried to look more aggressive without actually landing that much more than last time. I thought it would be 2 rounds, but you can see how it was 4. Especially the latter ones where Fury simply wanted to throw a lead then lean all over him. Usyk kept working and threw a lot of body shots, and got the cleaner ones through.
Definitely. Fury's best moments were when he was on the front foot, but he only sustained that for about 10 second bursts and let Usyk dictate the rest of the time.
Taking nothing away from Usyk, Fury has really disappointed me over the two fights. He has looked like a man who is scared of being hit.
Usyk hasn't had to do anything special (for him), just outwork him. The Dubois and Bellew fights were more challenging.
Post by: ozzjim on December 22, 2024, 12:36:55 AM
Post by: Rory on December 22, 2024, 12:54:22 AM
Once again, invites questions about Fury's conditioning. I'm sorry, you just don't look like that if you're eating and training like an athlete consistently over years at a time.
That's not to say you *can't* carry timber like that as a heavyweight boxer, but when you're competing over 36 minutes with a guy like Usyk, who has not only hardly any fat but also no unnecessary muscle, that's going to catch up with you.
Post by: TonyD on December 22, 2024, 01:42:26 AM
After the shame of the Olympics boxing scoring it must be hard to have any faith in the sport.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on December 22, 2024, 03:36:01 AM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 22, 2024, 06:32:13 AM
Post by: manic-road on December 22, 2024, 08:53:12 AM
Post by: Demitri_C on December 22, 2024, 09:22:59 AM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 22, 2024, 10:52:09 AM
It was closer than some said. It could have gone either way. One or two at most but four? And all three had it the same? Thats very bizarre
It really couldn't have gone either way. Usyk was and just is better
Post by: Nunkin1965 on December 22, 2024, 11:05:06 AM
Probably not 4 rounds difference, but Usyk was at least 2 rounds in front.
He's a great Champion.
Post by: Villa Lew on December 22, 2024, 01:21:36 PM
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 22, 2024, 05:55:33 PM
Post by: Rory on December 23, 2024, 12:30:08 AM
I wanted Fury to win, primarily because I didn't think he did himself justice in the first fight but also because I wanted to see a trilogy.
By the final bell, I knew he hadn't. Yes, I had it closer, but I knew Fury had lost. To come away from that thinking he'd won by three rounds shows he wasn't paying attention to what was actually happening, and neither were his corner.