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Title: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 06, 2024, 10:26:18 PM
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Sunday 14th January, 2pm kick-off.

Anyone excited for this? I am.

Tight game but we nick it by one goal.

FTF.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave P on January 06, 2024, 10:35:48 PM
We could have Pau back and they could have DCL and McNeill out. We should be looking to win surely.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 06, 2024, 10:36:17 PM
Its a game we should be winning given their poor form and players missing
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 06, 2024, 10:42:02 PM
We should win, but it'll be tight as they need a result. I'd happily take a 1-0 win now.

As an aside, wasn't this previously scheduled for Monday Jan. 15th, or has it been moved for their replay?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on January 06, 2024, 10:48:13 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 06, 2024, 10:48:24 PM
I will take 0-3 now and 0-4 on the day.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 06, 2024, 10:49:02 PM
I will take 0-3 now and 0-4 on the day.

FTTF?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 06, 2024, 10:55:44 PM
Given our recent difficulties breaking down deep, stubborn defences and getting turned by balls over the top, this match is basically our nightmare. I really hope we've got a plan.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 06, 2024, 10:58:37 PM
They’ll probably try and do what they did in the League Cup game which we need to be ready for. That said our strongest team wins this.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 06, 2024, 11:01:48 PM
Given our recent difficulties breaking down deep, stubborn defences and getting turned by balls over the top, this match is basically our nightmare. I really hope we've got a plan.
they will need to attack us though as they need 3 points
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on January 06, 2024, 11:02:25 PM
So do we.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 06, 2024, 11:05:03 PM
So do we.
yes and i think if they come at us leaving spaces we will exploit that and win
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 06, 2024, 11:10:03 PM
We know how Dyche will set them up.
It won’t be pretty.
He will be happier with a draw than us.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 06, 2024, 11:49:06 PM
Given our recent difficulties breaking down deep, stubborn defences and getting turned by balls over the top, this match is basically our nightmare. I really hope we've got a plan.

That's the way I see it too, will be a slog like last season there. Buendia turned the game last season and we might need similar from the bench this time, might hold Bailey in reserve. Results are holding up in the main but Man City aside our performances have been a bit flat for a while now. Narrow one goal win will be perfect, get the first goal and their crowd will get very nervy. Lenglet has done ok but hope Torres is back as we will have a lot of the ball. I think Emery will bring Carlos back and drop Cash but I wouldn't.

Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 07, 2024, 01:18:58 AM
Everton are at home and aside from a couple of recent slips they’ve done well. They are at home and won’t sit deep. They need points and will try to win. We will take advantage of their intent and win the game 3-1.

Watkins, SJM, Diaby
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 07, 2024, 02:19:59 AM
Its a game we should be winning given their poor form and players missing

Who do you prefer Mowbray or Rowett?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 07, 2024, 09:42:41 AM
Everton are at home and aside from a couple of recent slips they’ve done well. They are at home and won’t sit deep. They need points and will try to win. We will take advantage of their intent and win the game 3-1.

Watkins, SJM, Diaby

They won 4 in a row up to 16 Dec but then haven’t won since 1D 4L. I don’t think we should overplay their uptick in form pre Christmas.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 07, 2024, 09:56:13 AM
4-2 Villa
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 10:26:40 AM
Its a game we should be winning given their poor form and players missing

Who do you prefer Mowbray or Rowett?
Mowbray
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 07, 2024, 10:34:19 AM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 07, 2024, 10:41:15 AM
Disliking Everton more than Man Utd or Newcastle is so eccentric that I just have to respect it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2024, 10:42:12 AM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it

We beat them 4-0 earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 07, 2024, 11:13:18 AM
Given our recent difficulties breaking down deep, stubborn defences and getting turned by balls over the top, this match is basically our nightmare. I really hope we've got a plan.

That's the way I see it too, will be a slog like last season there. Buendia turned the game last season and we might need similar from the bench this time, might hold Bailey in reserve. Results are holding up in the main but Man City aside our performances have been a bit flat for a while now. Narrow one goal win will be perfect, get the first goal and their crowd will get very nervy. Lenglet has done ok but hope Torres is back as we will have a lot of the ball. I think Emery will bring Carlos back and drop Cash but I wouldn't.

Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins.

All good points. Its a lazy analogy on my part but Everton really are an identikit of Dyche’s Burnley in the way they play but also they do enough. They like Burnley used to get tonked and go on slippery runs, but are also capable of giving anyone a game with their agricultural style.

If we are to fall away as most non Villa probably expect, this is the exact sort of game we’ll lose. We are better than them though. I would probably go with your team, I much prefer Konsa at centre back, him and Torres are the best we have, but I have doubts about Cash now, I thought he was poor again last night.

Anyway, 2-1 us (Watkins, McGinn)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 11:23:06 AM
Konsa in the middle please with Torres, can't afford another Carlos brain fart moment
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 07, 2024, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: Bad English link=topic=64573.msg4509866#msg4509866
date=1704581304
I will take 0-3 now and 0-4 on the day.

FTTF?
Sorry but what does fttf mean?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 07, 2024, 12:51:43 PM
Fuck the Toffee Fuckers?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2024, 12:53:38 PM
Fuck the Toffee Fuckers?

Correct, just a small addition to one of BE's pet phrases.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2024, 12:58:56 PM
Fuck the Toffee Fuckers?

Correct, just a small addition to one of BE's pet phrases.
Altering holy scripture...may god help you my son, I will pray for your salvation.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2024, 01:00:29 PM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it

We beat them 4-0 earlier in the season.
Not forgetting  Palace, Luton and Fulham.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 07, 2024, 01:06:34 PM
Fuck the Toffee Fuckers?

Correct, just a small addition to one of BE's pet phrases.
Ahh. Thanks 😊
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 07, 2024, 01:13:26 PM
Fuck the Toffee Fuckers?

Correct, just a small addition to one of BE's pet phrases.
FT'W'TF!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 01:15:04 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 07, 2024, 01:17:49 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.
They are more Blose.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 01:19:08 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.
on the pitch maybe. Off it they are superior
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2024, 01:21:00 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.
on the pitch maybe. Off it they are superior

That the kind of reasoning a nose would come up with
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 07, 2024, 01:25:06 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.

Yeah, and their neighbours are one of the most objectionable clubs in the world.

The most played fixture is important, people do realise that if Everton go down we're losing that title to some horrible Scab Six game? Imagine hearing that stat get regurgitated all season. No, important to keep as much history as possible out of their grubby plastic hands.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 01:25:17 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.
on the pitch maybe. Off it they are superior

That the kind of reasoning a nose would come up with
and that's the kind of grammar a nose would employ.  ;)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2024, 01:28:15 PM
Correct, just a small addition to one of BE's pet phrases.

Altering holy scripture...may god help you my son, I will pray for your salvation.

It's far too late for that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2024, 01:29:55 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Except they are very much the inferior team In their own city.
on the pitch maybe. Off it they are superior

That the kind of reasoning a nose would come up with
and that's the kind of grammar a nose would employ.  ;)

I think the phrase is 'hoisted with his own petard'.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 07, 2024, 01:41:48 PM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it

We beat them 4-0 earlier in the season.
“Sides like these” if you didn’t quite understand the wording
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 07, 2024, 01:51:13 PM
Disliking Everton more than Man Utd or Newcastle is so eccentric that I just have to respect it.
I just dislike them with an absolute passion. I was hoping that the 10 point deduction would finish them but looks like they may survive. I dislike the comparisons with us too.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2024, 01:53:35 PM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it

We beat them 4-0 earlier in the season.
“Sides like these” if you didn’t quite understand the wording

I know, but as another poster has pointed out we've dealt with sides like this effectively all season, that's why we're 2nd in the league.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 07, 2024, 01:57:25 PM
Disliking Everton more than Man Utd or Newcastle is so eccentric that I just have to respect it.
I just dislike them with an absolute passion. I was hoping that the 10 point deduction would finish them but looks like they may survive. I dislike the comparisons with us too.

To each their own, I just don't get it when one of our rivals is literally Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 02:41:27 PM
I dislike Everton more than any other team in the PL. I’d love a 4-0 or better Villa win but I suspect they’ll do what they do best and spoil the game so I’m thinking 2-0. We need to find ways of defeating sides like this and I’m confident the UE has a plan to do it

We beat them 4-0 earlier in the season.
“Sides like these” if you didn’t quite understand the wording

I know, but as another poster has pointed out we've dealt with sides like this effectively all season, that's why we're 2nd in the league.
the only blips really were Sheff U, Forest and Everton in the League Cup.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 07, 2024, 02:42:22 PM
Scrappy 0-1 win
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 07, 2024, 02:44:05 PM
Scrappy 0-1 win
i'd take it
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2024, 06:01:17 PM
Scrappy 0-1 win

That would doo.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: steamer on January 08, 2024, 06:38:31 AM
Not looking forward to this one
Depending which Everton team turns up
The one who hassled us and were well worth their win earlier in the season or the crap one who rolled over for Newton Heath
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 08, 2024, 07:31:04 AM
Scrappy 0-1 win

That would doo.

I haven't got a Scooby what you're on about.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 08, 2024, 11:10:58 AM
Tough game but at least Everton won't be parking the bus, i think this will be a physical game but one we should win, 0-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 08, 2024, 12:06:42 PM
Disliking Everton more than Man Utd or Newcastle is so eccentric that I just have to respect it.
I just dislike them with an absolute passion. I was hoping that the 10 point deduction would finish them but looks like they may survive. I dislike the comparisons with us too.

To each their own, I just don't get it when one of our rivals is literally Saudi Arabia.

There are definitely 'levels' of disdain with nation state funded clubs at the top end.  But top of the list, always, is Spurs for me. 

I get the Everton thing too mind you.  It's their whiny fans that make me cross.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2024, 01:24:41 PM
Tough game - hopefully Tielemans might return at some point soon.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 02:21:17 PM
Tough game but at least Everton won't be parking the bus, i think this will be a physical game but one we should win, 0-2
Isn't Dyche-ball a bus parker or has he changed his philosophy
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 08, 2024, 02:21:59 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Nor me.  I think there's a lot of similarities between us and always see them as a 'proper club.'  They're undoubtedly the opposing club I like most in the PL. 
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smithy on January 08, 2024, 02:24:52 PM
Tough game but at least Everton won't be parking the bus, i think this will be a physical game but one we should win, 0-2
Isn't Dyche-ball a bus parker or has he changed his philosophy

He is, but a couple of weeks ago when they'd won three on the bounce, I'd have expected them to have a proper go at home.  But now they've lost three on the bounce and are without a couple of key players, plus they are now only one point clear of Luton, so I suspect a point from this game would be welcomed by Dyche, and they'll set up appropriately.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 02:24:56 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Nor me.  I think there's a lot of similarities between us and always see them as a 'proper club.'  They're undoubtedly the opposing club I like most in the PL.
same here , i see a lot of common things between the two clubs and they are the best football club in Liverpool for sure
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 08, 2024, 02:39:12 PM
I think this one is going to be a tough one. They haven't beaten us in the league since our little holiday in the Championship, and they have lost their last two home games and will be looking to get back to winning ways.

A win would do us the world of good though. Newcastle v Man City and Manu v Spurs means we have an opportunity to improve some gaps.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 02:41:16 PM
They are far more organised under Dyche than they were under Lampard / Ferguson
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 08, 2024, 03:05:46 PM
Up until the points deduction I'd have liked them to stay up. however, the self-pitying whining about the points deduction being corruption from one of my employees is so grating I want them to get relegated now.

They broke the rules, and are damn lucky the deduction didn't happen in any of the seasons they broke them, or else they would be down already.

Everton fans are more annoying than Liverpool fans (actual scouse ones), a few years in the Championship will do them good.

5-0 to the Villa, Bailey x3, Zaniolo and Moreno.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 08, 2024, 03:15:14 PM
Has anyone had their tickets come for this? The website says they're all digital, but I haven't had one come through.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 03:31:02 PM
Up until the points deduction I'd have liked them to stay up. however, the self-pitying whining about the points deduction being corruption from one of my employees is so grating I want them to get relegated now.

They broke the rules, and are damn lucky the deduction didn't happen in any of the seasons they broke them, or else they would be down already.

Everton fans are more annoying than Liverpool fans (actual scouse ones), a few years in the Championship will do them good.

5-0 to the Villa, Bailey x3, Zaniolo and Moreno.
all well and good saying that but other clubs have broke the rules and are getting away with it and winning trebles etc
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2024, 03:51:56 PM
Up until the points deduction I'd have liked them to stay up. however, the self-pitying whining about the points deduction being corruption from one of my employees is so grating I want them to get relegated now.

They broke the rules, and are damn lucky the deduction didn't happen in any of the seasons they broke them, or else they would be down already.

Everton fans are more annoying than Liverpool fans (actual scouse ones), a few years in the Championship will do them good.

5-0 to the Villa, Bailey x3, Zaniolo and Moreno.
all well and good saying that but other clubs have broke the rules and are getting away with it and winning trebles etc

Well, one has for sure if you believe the 115 charges, yes, but not sure why that makes Everton getting done for it wrong in any way.

They pretty transparently fiddled it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 08, 2024, 03:55:44 PM
Comes down to a £10m loan ear marked for the new stadium that took place before Planning Permission had been granted, but after an indication of approval had been given. Rules be rules and all that.

The Man City thing needs to come to a head, but equally, time and care is needed to make sure a significant chunk of the charges are going to stick so they can be punished so hard their ancestors feel it. Miss once and you won't get them again.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2024, 04:05:03 PM
I would also assume Everton getting done will make it harder for the FA to ignore Man City for much longer.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 08, 2024, 04:12:28 PM
Up until the points deduction I'd have liked them to stay up. however, the self-pitying whining about the points deduction being corruption from one of my employees is so grating I want them to get relegated now.

They broke the rules, and are damn lucky the deduction didn't happen in any of the seasons they broke them, or else they would be down already.

Everton fans are more annoying than Liverpool fans (actual scouse ones), a few years in the Championship will do them good.

5-0 to the Villa, Bailey x3, Zaniolo and Moreno.
all well and good saying that but other clubs have broke the rules and are getting away with it and winning trebles etc

Whataboutery innit.....the whining from Everton must be unbearable for clubs down the leagues who have been hit with points deductions.

I thought they played quite well v Man City over Xmas. Pickford had a mare but DCL missed a great chance to equalise in the second half at a critical time. They were very physical and competitive. Man City just had a bit more class on ball with likes of Grealish, Foden and Silva. Harrison was decent and Garner has definitely improved this season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 08, 2024, 05:58:38 PM
Up until the 2000's we seemed to get on reasonably well with Everton fans with mutual respect, then something changed and they started bleating about us. All the Evertonians I know are always pretty complimentary so just keyboard warriors I suppose
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 08, 2024, 07:29:42 PM
They're a curious mix, a proud club with a great history but also a massive chip on their shoulders from living in their neighbours shadow for decades.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2024, 08:43:43 PM
Whiniest set of fans on the planet. Expect hight pitched screeching for every decision, especially when we're ahead. After a few have correctly gone against them it will get so high pitched that only dogs will be able to hear it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 08:46:24 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2024, 08:58:48 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there

We play there next season.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 08, 2024, 09:00:53 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Nor me.  I think there's a lot of similarities between us and always see them as a 'proper club.'  They're undoubtedly the opposing club I like most in the PL.
What are the similarities between us and them you see??
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 08, 2024, 09:05:10 PM
Most played fixture in football and the club we are most similar too in terms of size, history and stature . Can't get the hate for Everton
Nor me.  I think there's a lot of similarities between us and always see them as a 'proper club.'  They're undoubtedly the opposing club I like most in the PL.
What are the similarities between us and them you see??

To me it's that most records we didn't hold (goals, points etc) they did. We've also both had times when we were the best team in the country but overall neither of us have really punched our weight.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 08, 2024, 09:09:08 PM
I like Everton.

But would love to see us thrash them in this match
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: algy on January 08, 2024, 09:09:38 PM
Scrappy 0-1 win

That would doo.

I haven't got a Scooby what you're on about.
Think it's just a Shaggy dog tale
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2024, 09:13:26 PM
Everton are probably the club most like us historically. That said they seem to have a chip on their shoulder about us, or certainly their online support do. Most i've met in real life have been decent sorts.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 09:46:35 PM
Everton are probably the club most like us historically. That said they seem to have a chip on their shoulder about us, or certainly their online support do. Most i've met in real life have been decent sorts.
Nope. None of the ones i know do
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 08, 2024, 09:59:14 PM
The normal ones are ideally fine but they've got a weird online element that seems to think they're some sort of legendary historical figure with the fashion sense of a Milanese supermodel.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:23:44 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:26:51 PM
And a few seasons ago I felt the need to report one of their stewards for verbally abusing a female Villa fan and her 7 year old son.
Never done that before.

Tbf they got back to me to say that the guy had been asked to leave.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 10:27:17 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!
Would you prefer a soulless bowl like The London Stadium or The Tottenham one
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:29:43 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!
Would you prefer a soulless bowl like The London Stadium or The Tottenham one
Somewhere I can see the pitch is a good start.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 08, 2024, 10:32:36 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!
Would you prefer a soulless bowl like The London Stadium or The Tottenham one
Somewhere I can see the pitch is a good start.

It'll never catch on that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2024, 10:33:48 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!
Would you prefer a soulless bowl like The London Stadium or The Tottenham one

Because those are the only alternatives to a ground where you can't see the pitch from hundreds of the seats?

Righto.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 10:35:44 PM
I've never had a problem there , granted last time I was in the home end Gladys Road Upper , cracking view of Buendia's header
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 08, 2024, 10:36:01 PM
Goodison is a proper ground. Shame this will be the final time we play there
It's a shithole.
Trying to watch the game for about 25% of away fans is rubbish.
One of the few grounds that has hundreds of RV seats!

It's a dreadful stadium, ceratinly not a patch on Villa Park. The season ticket holder I know can't wait to move. The new stadium looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Richard on January 08, 2024, 10:38:43 PM
Goodison was a great ground in the 80s when I was living up there but it's very outdated now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:39:23 PM
It's one of the few grounds where fans regularly and consistently complain about the view.
At the back of the Lower you have to bend down to see 3/4 of the pitch...but you do get £2 off your ticket price.
At the back of the Upper, same.
And there's pillars.
Front of the Upper is best....but limited, obviously.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 10:40:14 PM
Had some brilliant away days there , Sir Grahams last hoorah (3-3) and that 3-2 win the Ashley Young goal
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:45:55 PM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 08, 2024, 10:49:49 PM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)
Unbelievable stuff. Had tears in my eyes for Sir Grahams last game , the away end was unbelievable that day didn't stop singing from half time onwards . We was upstairs behind the goal that day , the away end used to be there .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 10:53:49 PM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)
Unbelievable stuff. Had tears in my eyes for Sir Grahams last game , the away end was unbelievable that day didn't stop singing from half time onwards . We was upstairs behind the goal that day , the away end used to be there .
Incredibly special times VT.
It's what binds us together!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 08, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)

I remember just bursting out laughing when that happened.

One of my favourite Villa goals ever.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 08, 2024, 11:01:06 PM
Wasn’t Lescott giving it large just before the Mercedes texting twat 😃
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 08, 2024, 11:04:51 PM
Wasn’t Lescott giving it large just before the Mercedes texting twat 😃
Oh yes!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 09, 2024, 01:42:10 AM
Everton fans have always been alright imo.

So have Liverpool fans also though. Well the Scouse ones anyway.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeS on January 09, 2024, 08:46:18 AM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)

I was about to walk out at 2-2 but my then girlfriend persuaded me to stay. Up pops Ashley and then utter carnage. That moment was the highlight of our 4 year relationship.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Chap on January 09, 2024, 09:06:53 AM
The Ashley Young winner was so special wasn't it?
Incredible last few minutes!
Joleon who? ;-)

I was about to walk out at 2-2 but my then girlfriend persuaded me to stay. Up pops Ashley and then utter carnage. That moment was the highlight of our 4 year relationship.
Better than sex, then😜😜
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on January 09, 2024, 09:18:12 AM
We are currently functional rather than fantastic but results are the most important thing right now. With the Kamara/Dougie partnership likely to be renewed our defence will be better protected if Torres isn't fit and if our CL ambitions are realistic we need to win games like this. I see a scrap but also a win.....

0-1
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 09, 2024, 10:26:31 AM
If anyone else is waiting on their Everton e-ticket, the ticket office have told me they're waiting on Everton sending the data over, but it should be in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 09, 2024, 10:39:38 AM
If anyone else is waiting on their Everton e-ticket, the ticket office have told me they're waiting on Everton sending the data over, but it should be in the next couple of days.

Nice one, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 09, 2024, 11:32:26 AM
They've emailed them now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 09, 2024, 11:44:38 AM
Ive been to Goodison quite a few times over the years, a few draws and a few wins, including the 1-0 a couple of Januarys ago and the FA Cup QF in 2000, great day on my 26th birthday that.
I like the idea of Goodison more than the reality, I like some of the historical stuff around the ground and the fact its a bit old school with the terraced housing all around. But the view when Ive been there is all a bit shite and does seem like its a few steps away from falling down.

Saying all of that some of the new grounds are a bit souless, whether thats the actual grounds or the corporatisation of certain support who knows, a bit of both maybe. Saying that I’d quite liked the new Spurs ground, not so much the Etihad. One of my favourite away days over the years is Sheffield Wednesday, despite the ‘meat’ pie I had being the most unpleasant things Ive ever eaten, and I lived in Stoke for a few years in the mid 90s, oatcakes and all that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 09, 2024, 12:07:11 PM
Me too, the previously mentioned 3-3 SGT last match of the season being one, in the terrace behind the goal which was bouncing. The 4-1 win in the late nineties was a good one. Dwight Yorke's last game on the opening game of the 98-99 season was one to forget. The 2-0 win under big Ron (early nineties) another great day out.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 03:26:51 PM
I wasn't there , but the year we won the league and the Morley goal that went on to win goal of the season. We've had some special moments at Goodison Park for sure .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Yeltzer on January 09, 2024, 04:11:28 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 09, 2024, 04:12:56 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us


 BOooooooo
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 04:15:52 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Gareth on January 09, 2024, 04:24:55 PM
Correct decision…nonsense officiating
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 09, 2024, 04:36:06 PM
Correct decision…nonsense officiating
Agreed
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 09, 2024, 04:55:36 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS

Why FFS? Firstly it’s the right decision but secondly he’s got 3 goals in 16 games. Not exactly Ollie Watkins.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 05:23:17 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS

Why FFS? Firstly it’s the right decision but secondly he’s got 3 goals in 16 games. Not exactly Ollie Watkins.
They'd certainly be weaker without him.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ventnorVillain on January 09, 2024, 05:31:28 PM
Isn't he injured?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 09, 2024, 05:51:47 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us

Of course he is. *sigh*

TBF it was a nonsense decision, and maybe it means the game isn't gone after all.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 05:53:08 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS

Why FFS? Firstly it’s the right decision but secondly he’s got 3 goals in 16 games. Not exactly Ollie Watkins.
Archer had 2 in 15 or similar .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: john e on January 09, 2024, 06:01:55 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS

Why FFS? Firstly it’s the right decision but secondly he’s got 3 goals in 16 games. Not exactly Ollie Watkins.

FFS you’ve gone and done it now
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 09, 2024, 07:03:35 PM
Calvert Lewis had had his red card overturned so will be available to face us
FFS

Why FFS? Firstly it’s the right decision but secondly he’s got 3 goals in 16 games. Not exactly Ollie Watkins.

The way it works is that the opposition's player will invariably score in the game he was supposed to be suspended for, just like players who should have been sent off go on to score/win a penalty against us. Highlighting his poor scoring record prior to the game only increases the chances of this happening. It's what the Football Gods decree.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 09, 2024, 07:09:10 PM
I'd be more worried if it was Calvert-Lewin who'd had his red card cancelled...
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 09, 2024, 07:25:05 PM
What a damning verdict on VAR and the senseless idiots who run it.

Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 09, 2024, 07:31:36 PM
Two ref's looked at it in real time and slow motion, from multiple angles, and decided it was a red. They've been shown up big time here, it just shows that sometimes the VAR is itching to get involved.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on January 09, 2024, 07:32:05 PM
And yes, he will almost certainly score now.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeS on January 09, 2024, 07:45:55 PM
And yes, he will almost certainly score now.

So we win 5-1 then instead of 5-0. Let the Gods have their fun
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 07:50:53 PM
And yes, he will almost certainly score now.
Put your house on it.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 09, 2024, 07:54:14 PM
Nah. Jimenez and Hojlund hadn't scored for ages and shut them out too.



Oh...
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 09, 2024, 07:57:46 PM
Nah. Jimenez and Hojlund hadn't scored for ages and shut them out too.



Oh...
plus Cameron the other week
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 09, 2024, 08:25:01 PM
Isn't he injured?
Dodgy Cruciate Ligament?

Give him 15 / 20 minutes and he probably will b.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 10, 2024, 04:25:39 AM
We've won 5 Premier League games in a row against Everton.

A record we've only bettered against 2 teams; Blues (6) and Coventry (7)....*snigger*.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 10, 2024, 10:26:27 AM
Nah. Jimenez and Hojlund hadn't scored for ages and shut them out too.



Oh...
plus Cameron the other week

Indeed, even Archer scored against us.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 10, 2024, 10:53:54 AM
Two ref's looked at it in real time and slow motion, from multiple angles, and decided it was a red. They've been shown up big time here, it just shows that sometimes the VAR is itching to get involved.
It’s absolutely ridiculous. The ref gave nothing at the time but the VAR ref intervened and decided it was a red card. What credibility is left now for VAR??
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 10, 2024, 11:01:58 AM
You can guarantee that Calvert-Lewis will score at least 1 goal on Sunday

This will be a tough game 2-2
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 10, 2024, 11:05:39 AM
I guarantee Clarvet-Lewis will do no such thing and if he does, I'll buy everybody on here a beer.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PGW on January 10, 2024, 11:08:10 AM
Yeah won his appeal so is able to play now so i believe.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 10, 2024, 11:11:56 AM
I guarantee Clarvet-Lewis will do no such thing and if he does, I'll buy everybody on here a beer.

He's a dangerous player though, is Kluivert-Brewin.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 10, 2024, 11:18:07 AM
Calvanist-Laudianism will be too busy dressing up in his girlfriends clothes to score against us.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 10, 2024, 11:30:57 AM
Calvados-TMLewin will trip over his own laces and be out for 3 months.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 10, 2024, 11:33:10 AM
To be serious for a minute though, Lenglet could be a bit vulnerable to the physical challenge and indeed the ball in behind, which is what I fear the most about Everton. The challenge and runs by Pervert-Llewellyn, I mean.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 10, 2024, 11:34:12 AM
To be serious for a minute though, Lenglet could be a bit vulnerable to the physical challenge and indeed the ball in behind, which is what I fear the most about Everton. The challenge and runs by Pervert-Llewellyn, I mean.
Won't Torres be back for this , him and Konsa in the middle , Cash at RB
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 10, 2024, 11:36:16 AM
Konsa will play at right back to give us more height for the aerial bombardment given their percentage football.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 10, 2024, 11:37:35 AM
I guarantee Clarvet-Lewis will do no such thing and if he does, I'll buy everybody on here a beer.

Careful, you might lose your shirt betting against Charvet-Lewin.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 10, 2024, 11:37:50 AM
Their biggest threat in recent games against us has been McNeil, so hopefully he'll be out.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 10, 2024, 12:24:34 PM
Konsa will play at right back to give us more height for the aerial bombardment given their percentage football.

Carlos will play to rough up Culvert-Lookin.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Skerra on January 10, 2024, 12:28:12 PM
Ads, where are we all meeting for the beers you’re buying!?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 10, 2024, 12:34:43 PM
Ads, where are we all meeting for the beers you’re buying!?

Dictionary corner.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 10, 2024, 12:56:41 PM
Ads, where are we all meeting for the beers you’re buying!?

Dictionary corner.

I shall retire to my phrontistery to consider that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 10, 2024, 02:05:43 PM
Their biggest threat in recent games against us has been McNeil, so hopefully he'll be out.

I think he may be out for a month or the season according to rumours, nothing confirmed which is concerning Evertonians. Poor fella has his wife in hospital too. Wish them both a full recovery.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 10, 2024, 04:28:44 PM
I can see us winning 2-1.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 10, 2024, 05:36:03 PM
Konsa will play at right back to give us more height for the aerial bombardment given their percentage football.

Carlos will play to rough up Culvert-Lookin.

I think Emery will go that way. Cash hasnt exactly made himself undroppable either but I hate moving Konsa to RB. It has only worked v Man City. Carlos was rubbish at Old Trafford and will be fortunate enough to get back in.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 10, 2024, 09:23:26 PM
Agree , if it's a choice of watching Cash checking back and rolling a 5 yard pass backwards to Konsa for 90 mins or Carlos having his monthly brain fart I'll take the first option.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 10, 2024, 09:45:07 PM
This is a really good test of where we are at. A loss is not catastrophic but would keep us under the radar. So would a draw.
A win and it will all be about the 10 point penalty for Everton.

Hard game
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 11, 2024, 02:37:26 AM
This is a really good test of where we are at. A loss is not catastrophic but would keep us under the radar. So would a draw.
A win and it will all be about the 10 point penalty for Everton.

Hard game

A loss would be catastrophic. If we want to challenge for the title.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Richard on January 11, 2024, 07:16:42 AM
This is a really good test of where we are at. A loss is not catastrophic but would keep us under the radar. So would a draw.
A win and it will all be about the 10 point penalty for Everton.

Hard game

A loss would be catastrophic. If we want to challenge for the title.

I agree. It would confirm for me our away form is not league winning standard. However our home form should still see us finish top 5 given the current gap to 6th.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 11, 2024, 08:26:01 AM
I'm not sure if losing on Sunday would be 'catastrophic'. A slight overstatement there to be honest. Look at how many Arsenal have lost recently and they're only five points behind Liverpool who will at some point lose a game or two as well. .
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2024, 08:33:34 AM
Yeah, an L at Everton, by all accounts a good side now, is not a catastrophe. The passed-up chances against Sheffield United and at Old Trafford much better fit that description.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2024, 09:30:38 AM
a loss at Everton would not be good in terms of top 4 aspirations and more of a dent to confidence and belief. We really should be going here and winning
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 11, 2024, 09:52:57 AM
A loss would not be good, but this is a difficult game and one that Everton will be up for.

Over the last 5 years, it's taken an average of 68 pts to get top four, with a high of 71 points. So we could be as little as 26-29 points off, with 18 games left to get them in. We're going to lose some games as we are not the finished article, but if we keep our PPG above 2 points a game (as it has been since Emery took over) we have a very good chance of finishing in the CL places.

The issue we face now is more teams paying us respect and trying to shut up shop against us. It will take a step up now to keep doing what we have been doing. But we have a margin for error.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2024, 10:34:17 AM
We need the likes of Tielemans / Torres back ASAP and Ramsey back to his old self. Diaby you would hope has a better 2nd half the season now he's acclimatised . Its going to be a tough 2nd half keeping this PPG going
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 11, 2024, 11:07:34 AM
It's worth poining out that whilst Everton are doing ok their home form is still pretty ropey and they're one of 3 teams in the league who are better away.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smirker on January 11, 2024, 02:00:21 PM
Yeah, an L at Everton, by all accounts a good side now, is not a catastrophe. The passed-up chances against Sheffield United and at Old Trafford much better fit that description.

This would be worse because it would be coming after those. In a short run of games the second loss is always worse. And the third worse still. And so on. If you want to win the title.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 11, 2024, 02:06:05 PM
Yeah, an L at Everton, by all accounts a good side now, is not a catastrophe. The passed-up chances against Sheffield United and at Old Trafford much better fit that description.

I know every club will have their equivalents but if we miss out on something by 1/3 points then dropping that 2 goal lead against that shit Man United team will forever piss me off.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 11, 2024, 02:06:54 PM
It's worth poining out that whilst Everton are doing ok their home form is still pretty ropey and they're one of 3 teams in the league who are better away.

They call that the O'Neill Protocol.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2024, 02:26:37 PM
Yeah, an L at Everton, by all accounts a good side now, is not a catastrophe. The passed-up chances against Sheffield United and at Old Trafford much better fit that description.

This would be worse because it would be coming after those. In a short run of games the second loss is always worse. And the third worse still. And so on. If you want to win the title.
performances have been falling off. It would be nice to put a good show on again and a result, though i'd happily take a win however it comes
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 11, 2024, 02:36:23 PM
This is a really good test of where we are at. A loss is not catastrophic but would keep us under the radar. So would a draw.
A win and it will all be about the 10 point penalty for Everton.

Hard game


I don't think it would be a catastrophe Rob, it would just be a bit of a set back.  Everybody has had a bit of a break now, so I think it's time we really started to get the away performances a bit more consistent. We've got a better team than them, and a much better manager. As long as we don't go toe-to-toe with their physicality (which we'd lose) then we should be OK. Pass them to death and beat them 3-0 please.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 11, 2024, 02:42:16 PM
As much as i would love a win i really hope we have a dominant performance to go with it (although the result is everything).

I love it when other fans speak highly of us
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 11, 2024, 02:45:16 PM
I do myself, but I also love it when they're spitting feathers at the injustice of all the offsides etc whilst we walk off with the points.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 11, 2024, 03:53:14 PM
Emi Buendia loves scoring against these bozos. Thoughts are with him at this difficult time.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 11, 2024, 04:02:16 PM
Emi Buendia loves scoring against these bozos. Thoughts are with him at this difficult time.

Are they the last people Watkins scored a pen against?  :o
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on January 11, 2024, 04:56:13 PM
Don't see Pau in any of the training pics.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 11, 2024, 06:09:59 PM
Given our record against them I should be more optimistic, but I always feel Everton away is tricky, especially if the likes of Pau are still out. I really hope we turn up and get a crucial win.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 11, 2024, 07:25:26 PM
We need the likes of Tielemans / Torres back ASAP and Ramsey back to his old self. Diaby you would hope has a better 2nd half the season now he's acclimatised . Its going to be a tough 2nd half keeping this PPG going

Diaby hasnt had a bad start, 5 goals and 6 assists in all comps. Bailey and Tielemans improved and challenged him for minutes on the pitch, which is what we want. His form has suffered a bit, particularly when teams have dropped deep to counter his pace. The goal v Burnley should have give him a boost, granted that was a horrible miskick when he came on v Boro. The one worry I have is that when Bailey and him play together, they play like complete strangers. Sheff United game especially they were getting in each others way.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 11, 2024, 07:31:20 PM
We need the likes of Tielemans / Torres back ASAP and Ramsey back to his old self. Diaby you would hope has a better 2nd half the season now he's acclimatised . Its going to be a tough 2nd half keeping this PPG going

Diaby hasnt had a bad start, 5 goals and 6 assists in all comps. Bailey and Tielemans improved and challenged him for minutes on the pitch, which is what we want. His form has suffered a bit, particularly when teams have dropped deep to counter his pace. The goal v Burnley should have give him a boost, granted that was a horrible miskick when he came on v Boro. The one worry I have is that when Bailey and him play together, they play like complete strangers. Sheff United game especially they were getting in each others way.
Diaby's clear main strength is pace, best to put a ball infront of him and let him put the afterburners on. He looks limited as a 10 with the ball at his feet
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on January 12, 2024, 01:05:27 PM
Don't see Pau in any of the training pics.

So frustrating....why did he play those few minutes against Burnley if he wasn't ready?  What about Tielemans as well?  Now out for over a month.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 12, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
Don't see Pau in any of the training pics.

So frustrating....why did he play those few minutes against Burnley if he wasn't ready?  What about Tielemans as well?  Now out for over a month.

Tis the Villa way.  When have last had an injusrt that turned out to be less problematic / time consuming that initially thought?  There must be an example, but I can't think of one!?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dogtanian on January 12, 2024, 01:52:39 PM
Looks like McNeil should miss the game with his injury, according to Dyche's press conference.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 12, 2024, 01:58:36 PM
The Manager of the Month trophy seals our fate here.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2024, 02:34:16 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 12, 2024, 02:37:42 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.

Neither of them were pictured on the most recent OS gurnathon training pictures.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2024, 02:42:16 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.

Neither of them were pictured on the most recent OS gurnathon training pictures.

Don’t shoot the messenger my brother

https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1745815394676339073?s=46

https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1745815763993112633?s=46

But room for a little more optimism hopefully
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 12, 2024, 02:46:32 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 12, 2024, 02:48:28 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.

Neither of them were pictured on the most recent OS gurnathon training pictures.

Don’t shoot the messenger my brother

https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1745815394676339073?s=46

https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1745815763993112633?s=46

But room for a little more optimism hopefully

Ah that's good news then. Probably means Tielemans is a bit further off actual game time though, but positive all the same. We've missed both of them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2024, 02:49:17 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.

did ok in his last game...right?


#clutchingontothethinnestofstraws
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2024, 02:51:07 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.

Neither of them were pictured on the most recent OS gurnathon training pictures.

Don’t shoot the messenger my brother

https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1745815394676339073?s=46

https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1745815763993112633?s=46

But room for a little more optimism hopefully

Ah that's good news then. Probably means Tielemans is a bit further off actual game time though, but positive all the same. We've missed both of them.

through injury and suspensions you can see our midfield has looked a little disjointed. It will be good to have the gang back together. JJ hasn't warranted yet earning his starting spot back so if Tielemans can rejoin with SJM, Doug and Kamara it makes us so much stronger.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 12, 2024, 02:51:32 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.

did ok in his last game...right?


#clutchingontothethinnestofstraws

He's important in training for the confidence of the strikers, having Emi saving everything just makes them feel shite about themselves.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 12, 2024, 03:05:29 PM
Martinez

Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno

McGinn
Kamara
Dougie
Diaby

Tielemans
Watkins
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 12, 2024, 03:07:33 PM
Martinez

Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno

McGinn
Kamara
Diaby

Tielemans
Watkins

I know they're shite but starting with 10 seems unduly generous.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on January 12, 2024, 03:12:16 PM
I got distracted by a call asking for assistance. Insolent staff. Updated.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on January 12, 2024, 03:28:48 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.

I don't think he was ever unfit. He's been out for about 6 or 7 weeks. Seems about the same Dendoncker was out for when he was on paternity leave.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on January 12, 2024, 03:31:00 PM
Emery didn't sound very confident about Torres so he is unlikely to start.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on January 12, 2024, 03:35:50 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.

I don't think he was ever unfit. He's been out for about 6 or 7 weeks. Seems about the same Dendoncker was out for when he was on paternity leave.

Emery has said he's injured in a couple of pre-match press conferences. I think his injury just coincided with his new arrival.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on January 12, 2024, 03:39:37 PM
Olsen's fit again, that's a relief.

I don't think he was ever unfit. He's been out for about 6 or 7 weeks. Seems about the same Dendoncker was out for when he was on paternity leave.

Emery has said he's injured in a couple of pre-match press conferences. I think his injury just coincided with his new arrival.

Didn't see that. Maybe he was due back a bit sooner and picked up the knock. I'm sure initially it was paternity leave. Would he very Villa to pick up an injury when not even involved.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on January 12, 2024, 03:43:19 PM
Pau and Tielemans are both training this week.

Neither of them were pictured on the most recent OS gurnathon training pictures.

Don’t shoot the messenger my brother

https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1745815394676339073?s=46

https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1745815763993112633?s=46

But room for a little more optimism hopefully

Thank McGrath for that.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 12, 2024, 03:44:03 PM
Giving a fitness update, Unai Emery said: "Pau [Torres] is training with the group. Youri [Tielemens] started working with us as well this week.

"Maybe both could be in the squad with the possibility to play. We need to analyse their progress after they’ve been injured.

"Lucas Digne is not available for Sunday. I don’t know when he will exactly, as we’re not playing next week. Maybe after [he will be available]."
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 12, 2024, 03:55:50 PM
Doesn’t sound overly optimistic on Pau and Tielemans.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 12, 2024, 04:32:04 PM
Doesn’t sound overly optimistic on Pau and Tielemans.

I reckon bench for the pair of them.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 13, 2024, 10:46:46 PM
Disliking Everton more than Man Utd or Newcastle is so eccentric that I just have to respect it.

Was thinking the same. You have to love the irrationality of football dislikes.

Though loathing of Man U is of course, perfectly logical, captain.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 13, 2024, 11:02:17 PM
Emery didn't sound very confident about Torres so he is unlikely to start.

Can't see Tielemans being put straight back in after a month out either. Hopefully he'll be o.k for the bench as he'll be excellent to put on the hour mark if Everton are leaving space at the back.

Think only change will be Cash starting his first prem game for a few weeks and Kons moving back centrally.

McNeill is out for them so they won't have much threat out wide.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 13, 2024, 11:03:42 PM
As for the game....we should win but also wouldn't surprise me if it's one of those score early, missed a few more chances and then concede from a scrappy set piece types.

1-1.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 13, 2024, 11:12:40 PM
Gueye is out at the AFCON and McNeil injured. Harrison is a danger and could exploit Moreno defensively. That said i expect our midfield to win the battle and we win the game
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 13, 2024, 11:47:57 PM
Did Harrison have a medical with us or how close was he to joining in the end?
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on January 14, 2024, 12:09:42 AM
Did Harrison have a medical with us or how close was he to joining in the end?
Not sure we were even in for him, it was that Fabrizio Romano who had a spectacular intel fail and made himself look silly
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 14, 2024, 08:20:02 AM
Right come on Villa, I’ve got a bad feeling about this one so I’ll be delighted to be proved 100% wrong.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 14, 2024, 09:01:53 AM
It'll be a hard game but I reckon we'll just about sneak it. 1-2. Bailey and Konsa with ours.

Dyche said yesterday that Everton haven't been awarded a penalty all season so we know what's coming.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: bilsim on January 14, 2024, 10:04:54 AM
I don't think we've played well since we beat Citeh, but we've picked up some decent results along the way.

Torres being absent is such a huge miss, his distribution and ability to progress the ball is basically what's made our recent outings far less convincing.

 I'm not expecting a swashbuckling performance... but I really think we should be getting 3 points and back into 2nd place.

Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 14, 2024, 10:18:09 AM
I don't think we've played well since we beat Citeh, but we've picked up some decent results along the way.

Torres being absent is such a huge miss, his distribution and ability to progress the ball is basically what's made our recent outings far less convincing.

 I'm not expecting a swashbuckling performance... but I really think we should be getting 3 points and back into 2nd place.



Agreed. Torres and Kamara are vital to how we play. We have also missed Tielemans.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Olof's Beard on January 14, 2024, 10:29:26 AM
Luiz and Kamara haven't played together since we beat Arsenal. That should change today. It will give us a true indication of the importance of that combination. Kamara also missed the Bournemouth game just before Man City so they have only played as a pair twice in seven games and in those games, we beat the top two from last season. In the other five, we've won two, drew two, lost one.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Baldy on January 14, 2024, 10:50:47 AM
Luiz and Kamara haven't played together since we beat Arsenal. That should change today. It will give us a true indication of the importance of that combination. Kamara also missed the Bournemouth game just before Man City so they have only played as a pair twice in seven games and in those games, we beat the top two from last season. In the other five, we've won two, drew two, lost one.

Agreed 100%. The best midfield combination in the whole league. We build our team around them.

Gives me confidence when I see both names on the team sheet. Villa to win, 1-2.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: London Villan on January 14, 2024, 12:09:37 PM
Our best performances have been with a midfield of McGinn, Luiz, Kamara and Teilemans - the quicker those four can start together again the better.
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 14, 2024, 03:35:53 PM
Come on Villa these are shite!
Title: Re: Everton vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on January 14, 2024, 03:37:07 PM
Fucking thug donkey
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