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Title: Engaging with the fans
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 01, 2024, 03:55:00 PM
Carry on consulting, says Richard Keeling.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2024/01/01/engaging-with-the-fans/
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 01, 2024, 08:09:30 PM
I much prefer honest owners who say "we put the money in so we make the decisions" to those (as in Lerner's tenure) who gaslight fans when they don't agree with them.
Interesting that we are regularly 200 seats below capacity - are these always the same ones I wonder?
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: itbrvilla on January 01, 2024, 08:52:44 PM
I much prefer honest owners who say "we put the money in so we make the decisions" to those (as in Lerner's tenure) who gaslight fans when they don't agree with them.
Interesting that we are regularly 200 seats below capacity - are these always the same ones I wonder?
I tried to buy one on a few occasions and they've been blocked from sale.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: devilla on January 01, 2024, 08:55:07 PM
I much prefer honest owners who say "we put the money in so we make the decisions" to those (as in Lerner's tenure) who gaslight fans when they don't agree with them.
Interesting that we are regularly 200 seats below capacity - are these always the same ones I wonder?
I tried to buy one on a few occasions and they've been blocked from sale.

Yep that's happened to me too.  On a related subject why don't they say what the attendances are any more?
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: The Edge on January 01, 2024, 09:03:25 PM
This 200 empty seats malarkey sounds like nothing but a get out clause to not spend the money. All grounds will have a few empty seats dotted around for a variety of reasons. Weddings, illness, holidays, vehicle breakdowns etc etc. Same goes for all clubs but that hadn't stopped Everton, West Ham and Man City planning new stadiums or expansions. Why are we any different? In Man City's case the club buy a big block of season tickets ( if you've been there you'll have seen it high up above the dugouts) which are sometimes given away and sometimes covered in blue tarps. It's really starting to boil my piss all this procrastination as it just reeks of small time thinking. Big clubs think big. Barcelona for example are in the process of a billion euro rebuild but the Nou Camp rarely sells out for league matches. It's about having the capacity for when they need it. That's what big clubs do. Come on Nas and Wes you've been amazing so far. Step in and make the big call. Make us a big club again.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: Legion on January 01, 2024, 11:20:21 PM
We are a big club. Always have been, always will be.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: steamer on January 02, 2024, 06:41:53 AM
What do they say about statistics, lies, lies and statistics.
Liverpool have had part of the Anfield rd closed this year , is this included, do away fans count ?
I was at the Everton Cup game, crap atmosphere and empty seats aplenty, probably because of the ticket pricing.
European games, well while great not exactly Barca or Real Madrid as opposition. Did the fact that no Warsaw fans attend get included ?
Do the right thing Villa and plan big
I guess one of the reasons is that they do not want to lose the revenue for closing a stand for one season or more and have kicked the can down the road.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: Nelly on January 02, 2024, 07:03:54 AM
Good read - thank you. I read on here previously that the name change from 'fan consultation group' to 'fan advisory board' was quite telling. On the outside looking in that looks very much like a meeting to tell supporters groups what the club are doing next, rather than to gauge opinion.

The not selling out thing seems a little confrontational from the club towards the fans. The only thing that seems to make much sense is a possible low uptake of the new hospitality options, of which the new north stand was probably going to be loaded with. Either that or Villa have a preferred option to move forwards with and just need an easy out to put the brakes on. In which case, again, it's quite poor communication from them. But as mentioned, if they're just going to advise fans rather than seek opinion, who cares if their communication is poor.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: Risso on January 02, 2024, 08:35:13 AM
The change in name is because of the new Premier League fan  engagement rules.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 02, 2024, 09:23:19 AM
It shouldn’t be confused with the Advisory Board of the Fans.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 02, 2024, 09:26:39 AM
It shouldn’t be confused with the Advisory Board of the Fans.

Splitters!
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: olaftab on January 02, 2024, 09:46:12 AM
The 200 is a non issue IMO. Article mentions the fact that there is only 1 PL club at 100% sell out in line with my point that in large arenas anything close to 95% is a "sold out" state. Anyway easy solution is to release those seats to the waiting list.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: jon collett on January 02, 2024, 11:25:05 AM
It shouldn’t be confused with the Advisory Board of the Fans.

It was supposed to be FAB but turned out to be FOB OFF.
Title: Re: Engaging with the fans
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 02, 2024, 11:28:31 AM
It shouldn’t be confused with the Advisory Board of the Fans.
Those bastards.
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