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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: 85kota on December 27, 2023, 10:42:01 AM
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Saturday 30 December 15:00
Discuss...
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Hoping Tielemans and Torres are back.
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No idea with this one. Hopefully we "see a reaction" and we should have enough to bury them, but honestly, who knows? Too many players in poor form. 1-1.
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Need to put the game yesterday to bed. I think we’ll win comfortably.
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Hoping Tielemans and Torres are back.
Torres surely will be given he was on the bench last night. Tielemans hopefully on the bench at least. Likely fitness concerns with Digne and Cash, Cash seemed to be in trouble with his shoulder. Kompany seems to be insistent on playing Mowbrays West Brom style football back to the second division so don't think they will park the bus like Sheffield United. Maybe try 433/4231 with more width, Ramsey will have to drop out.
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Cash, Konsa, Torres, Moreno
Luiz, Donk, McGinn
Diaby, Watkins, Bailey
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Even leaving yesterday aside, it feels like an age since we had a really comfortable demolishing of a team. I think we're due one. Just a stress free, 4 or 5 goal, game killed off after 35 minutes, kind of thing.
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Probably the worst thing to face next would be a bus-parking lower league side.
Fortunately, Burnley are lower league, but they are certainly not bus-parkers. They will try to play a bit, which suits us.
Confidence restored after a 3-0 win.
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-------- Martinez----------
Cash Konsa Torres Moreno
---- irogbunam - Luiz ----
Zaniolo ------------- McGinn
---- Bailey --- Watkins -----
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We really need to beat them convincingly, give us a confidence boost.
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Moreno
McGinn
Luiz
Donk
Bailey
Zaniolo
Watkins
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Any sort of win would be fine .
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2-0 to us, and no "Canadians" from British Columbia on the post-match thread.
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Was boys against men up there in August.
Same again, no excuses. 3-1 win.
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Aaron Ramsey got a few minutes v Liverpool. Might feature .
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They won't park the bus, we will fucking murder them.
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In the past, under previous managers, this would have been painful.
Not under Unai.
3-1 Villa
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"Discuss"? Maaate!
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Christ! I've just seen the poll. I'm voting for a 6-0 win but am factoring in John McGinn getting a straight red, Emi breaking his leg running out to 'sweep', then Unai having a nervous breakdown and being stretchered off for a 6-week convalescence.
So I have voted 'Frustration'. I would have voted 'Despair' if I thought Watkins was going to do his Achilles in as well.
Nice to see that there is no need for 'thread' though.
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Looking at Burnleys last 3 away games - won 2-0 at Fulham , drew 1-1 at Brighton and a narrow loss at wolves 0-1 .
Think this will be closer than some are predicting.
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4-0 to us. No worries.
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Can't wait. First game since Fulham at home because of travelling. Normal service to be resumed.
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I fear that we are in the midst of our dodgy spell and think this will be 1-1
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I'm going for an XI based on who was most promising and who gave it the doggiest go in the last game (and that Digne is probably the latest casualty).
Emi
Konsa Lenglet Pau Moreno
Bailey Tim Doug McGinn
Zaniolo Watkins
Get crosses into the box for the big boys.
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3-1 Villa win and back to winning ways again.
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Win, 42 points, and a well deserved week off (or fortnight for one or two) for the lads.
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If Cash isn't fit I'd probably put Chambers in at RB so Konsa can stay central, but otherwise agree with Monty's selection. Though if you really want the doggiest surely you have to put Collymore in the hole!
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We will win and be happy to end the year
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Cash was just suspended for boxing day unless he picked up a knock at the end of the Sheffield United game.
Has to come back in as they couldn't handle him at Turf Moor so to me we just need as many attacking threats as possible and go a couple of goals up early as we know we can see out games doing that at VP.
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Largely unchanged, Lenglet if Pau is unfit, Tielemans for JJ if fit.
Emi
Konsa Carlos Pau Moreno
Donk Doug
Bailey McGinn JJ
Watkins
2-0 Villa. Faith restored ;)
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Cash was just suspended for boxing day unless he picked up a knock at the end of the Sheffield United game.
He did. He went down on his shoulder and was holding it when he got up, looked in pain and was pointing at it while saying something to someone on the sideline. The commentator on Sky thought he'd dislocated it. Don't think he did, but he did have a shoulder problem a few weeks ago too. No idea how serious this one is though, he might be fine.
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Looking at Burnleys last 3 away games - won 2-0 at Fulham , drew 1-1 at Brighton and a narrow loss at wolves 0-1 .
Think this will be closer than some are predicting.
Yes, because they have been more defensive so I expect a route-master is making its way down the M6
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Have twin boys - it's the eldest's (by 40 seconds) first Villa match, so hopefully a nice introduction for him. Taking the other to a game later in the season, it'd be a bit much to cope with both at the same time and the younger lad has only really started to take an interest in the last day or two.
Anyway, Villa win. I'm a believer mate
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Very creative poll options - sheila, take a bow.
From despair to where?
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Very creative poll options - sheila, take a bow.
From despair to where?
oh William , it was, really nothing
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Go at them hard, low, and fast, press hard when out of possession. If we do that then we will win through sheer class
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If Cash isn't fit I'd probably put Chambers in at RB
wait a minute , are you suggesting Chambers starts
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I'm going for an XI based on who was most promising and who gave it the doggiest go in the last game (and that Digne is probably the latest casualty).
Emi
Konsa Lenglet Pau Moreno
Bailey Tim Doug McGinn
Zaniolo Watkins
Get crosses into the box for the big boys.
Can Lenglet play on the right side? Otherwise it's a decent team, Zaniolo deserves a shot up front to see what he can do. Diaby looks like he doesn't know what to do and even Bailey looks better coming off the bench. Glad to see you too are looking to bring Tim in, I reckon given a start he'll soon be a crowd favourite, he just needs the chance. Unai needs to instruct him to make sure he doesn't try and do it all by himself or get too far forward. A disciplined role in defensive midfield will allow us to rest Kamara and Dougie (not that he needs one, he's been on holiday all month) and there should be no real drop in quality.
I really thought Burnley would be comfortable this season but for whatever reason, trying to run before they can walk, too many new players, a really tough start to the season, whatever it was they've really disappointed. I'm still expecting a tough game but I'd hope all the anger and frustration of dropping three points last night will see us at our most lethal.
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Have we really played every team once in the league already? The Burnley game at Turf Moor only seems like t'were a few weeks ago :o
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Go at them hard, low, and fast, press hard when out of possession. If we do that then we will win through sheer class
That's my dating philosophy too.
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Need a win here to get back on track.
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Go at them hard, low, and fast, press hard when out of possession. If we do that then we will win through sheer class
That's my dating philosophy too.
I hope we have more luck than that! 😱
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They won't park the bus, we will fucking murder them.
Burnley don't park buses, they brick them.
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Go at them hard, low, and fast, press hard when out of possession. If we do that then we will win through sheer class
A, HA.
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I really don’t think this is going to be as easy as some people think. I’d just take a win however it comes. Unless we are 4 goals up, think we need to stop this walking football at the back and press teams instead. Best performance of the season by far was Citeh at home and look our tempo in that match.
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If Cash isn't fit I'd probably put Chambers in at RB so Konsa can stay central
What..... for us????
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0-2.
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-------- Martinez----------
Cash Konsa Torres Moreno
---- irogbunam - Luiz ----
Zaniolo ------------- McGinn
---- Bailey --- Watkins -----
this, just hope we get a better RB in Jan
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-------- Martinez----------
Cash Konsa Torres Moreno
---- irogbunam - Luiz ----
Zaniolo ------------- McGinn
---- Bailey --- Watkins -----
this, just hope we get a better RB in Jan
Yeah for better or worse it seems like the eleven guys playing with the most amount of anger and zest right now, as we saw with Man Utd that can help get you out of a rut!
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I wouldn’t discard Carlos too quickly. He had a really poor game last night, but he was also brilliant against Citeh.
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Go at them hard, low, and fast, press hard when out of possession. If we do that then we will win through sheer class
That's my dating philosophy too.
I hope we have more luck than that! 😱
I have dated one girl from Burnley but you're right, it would be better if we were up against South Americans.
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I'm going for a 1-0 win in a tight and largely difficult game with a spirited Burnley. McGinn winner.
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The good news for Burnley is that they won't get flak on social media for not wearing claret & blue.
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The Germans have a phrase which I thinks sums us up for now:
Wir sind fix und fertig.
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I wouldn’t discard Carlos too quickly. He had a really poor game last night, but he was also brilliant against Citeh.
he's very hit & miss , great if you are happy finishing 10th but i've seen enough quite honestly. He's a good defender would be perfet fow Wolves or palace but we have to be better
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I wouldn’t discard Carlos too quickly. He had a really poor game last night, but he was also brilliant against Citeh.
he's very hit & miss , great if you are happy finishing 10th but i've seen enough quite honestly. He's a good defender would be perfet fow Wolves or palace but we have to be better
So that’s Diaby and Carlos then, who’s next.
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This situation was always on the horizon, a couple of dodgy results and below standard performances, albeit coupled with poor refereeing/VAR and incredible but entirely predictable set of circumstances on the outskirts of Altrincham. Injuries and suspensions thrown into the mix makes the focus on what would've been looked upon as a routine fixture all the more sharper. I think we need to get used to an Emery side throwing in a stinker every now and again, and Boxing Day was one of those even though we were ahead and had chances to kill the game off. He has always shown the ability to get immediately back on track and this needs to be the case again on Saturday.
2-0
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Slowly the vast majority of us have come to appreciate the way that Unai is getting the team to build from the back, probing the opposition and exploiting space.
A couple of indifferent results where we have seen tired players making a few mistakes and the “get into ‘em” “boot it long” posters begin to emerge.
This is a long term project. In Unai we trust.
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I'd like to see Tim get a full game vs Burnley.
"It'll be like a new signing..."
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Slowly the vast majority of us have come to appreciate the way that Unai is getting the team to build from the back, probing the opposition and exploiting space.
A couple of indifferent results where we have seen tired players making a few mistakes and the “get into ‘em” “boot it long” posters begin to emerge.
This is a long term project. In Unai we trust.
The Yanited performance and result merely confirmed what many of us have been saying for some time.
Unai has done a fantastic job the the squad he inherited and with the players that he's been instrumental in signing.
BUT
A title contending/top 4 squad takes time to build and in that regard we've been ahead of schedule in the first half of the season.
It's after Christmas that squad depth become critical as injuries, suspensions, fatigue and players having a bad patch come into play.
We have a pretty decent starting XI and some cover in certain areas, but realistically we're 6 -7 short of having a top squad.
Emery has worked miracles with what he's got in overcoming the injuries to Mings, Buendia, Moreno and JJ, but he can only do so much.
We need to temper our criticism, hope that Moreno and JJ get back yo where they were at the end of last season and that we can bring in 2-3 positive additions in January so that we're able to maintain a top 4 position.
This has already been a topsy-turvy season, Chelsea, Toon and United have struggle and Brighton are out of sorts. But they've got decent managers and some good players - so expect some sort of rebound.
If we maintain our home form starting on Saturday, then 2024 should be a good year for us. UTV
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I’m not sure what young Tim has done to prove he is good enough to start in such an important match in our season. Not a slight against him at all and the fact Emery has kept him around as opposed to selling him like Archer, Bidace and A Ramsey, must mean he rates him highly.
Even so, after the last two results, a win is vital here and I’m sure he should be thrown in, in such a pivotal role in the team, a sub appearance maybe.
Think I’d go with
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Moreno
Donk
Luiz
McGinn
Zaniolo
Diaby
Watkins
2-0 (Watkins, Diaby)
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
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I’m not sure what young Tim has done to prove he is good enough to start in such an important match in our season. Not a slight against him at all and the fact Emery has kept him around as opposed to selling him like Archer, Bidace and A Ramsey, must mean he rates him highly.
Even so, after the last two results, a win is vital here and I’m sure he should be thrown in, in such a pivotal role in the team, a sub appearance maybe.
Agreed, not the game to throw Tim in from the start.
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Bloody predictive text.
You do know that you can edit posts. :)
I keep forgetting that.
Thanks for the hint, I've corrected the errors.
Cheers
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Bloody predictive text.
You do know that you can edit posts. :)
I keep forgetting that.
Thanks for the hint, I've corrected the errors.
Cheers
No worries, I enjoy your posts (even with the odd error). :)
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Slowly the vast majority of us have come to appreciate the way that Unai is getting the team to build from the back, probing the opposition and exploiting space.
A couple of indifferent results where we have seen tired players making a few mistakes and the “get into ‘em” “boot it long” posters begin to emerge.
This is a long term project. In Unai we trust.
I've come to appreciate it, and trust it, but at the same time, when it's not working and we're about to lose a game we were winning 2-0, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to see it booted long occasionally, just for a few minutes like.
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I don't think anybody is calling for route one football or banging it forward, but there has to be some sort of ability to correct things in game when it's clear things are going badly wrong, as they were against Man U. They had a midfield of Mainoo and Eriksen and yet they dominated us completely second half.
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At then end of the Shef Utd match we had a throw in very near the half way line in our own half. Cash(I think) was about to take it and was lining up to throw it pretty much straight to a Villa player in front of him, but Emery is behind him shouting and pointing to throw it back to Martinez. So it goes all the way back and we play out from the back, despite there only being seconds left, and nothing comes of it. It's times like that where I start to question, ever so slightly, if we really need to build from the back every single time, even when the ball isn't back there already.
(I do know we scored a goal against Everton from that sloppy throw in Young took in his own half, so maybe Emery was more worried about them scoring again than us doing it.)
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres /Lenglet
Moreno
Dendoncker
Luiz
Zaniolo
Ramsey/Diaby
Bailey
Watkins
I'd rest McGinn because I think he needs it.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres /Lenglet
Moreno
Dendoncker
Luiz
Zaniolo
Ramsey/Diaby
Bailey
Watkins
I'd rest McGinn because I think he needs it.
The other alternative is play him against Burnley and leave him out the FA cup game.
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That central midfield got over run on Boxing Day.
Ramsey and Carlos should be dropped.
Mcginn moved back into midfield.
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Dendoncker isn't very good. We need a bit better to be honest, but maybe he'll suffice against Burnley.
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Hopefully Torres is fit because Carlos needs dropping. Ramsey too, needs to be reintroduced gradually because he's been at about 30% of his usual ability at best.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Moreno
Bailey Luiz McGinn Zaniolo
Diaby Watkins
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I don't think anybody is calling for route one football or banging it forward, but there has to be some sort of ability to correct things in game when it's clear things are going badly wrong, as they were against Man U. They had a midfield of Mainoo and
Eriksen and yet they dominated us completely second half.
They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
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Dendoncker isn't very good. We need a bit better to be honest, but maybe he'll suffice against Burnley.
I think the suffice against Burnley argument could be used in favour of starting Iroegbunam in place of Dendoncker.
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Hopefully Torres is fit because Carlos needs dropping. Ramsey too, needs to be reintroduced gradually because he's been at about 30% of his usual ability at best.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Moreno
Bailey Luiz McGinn Zaniolo
Diaby Watkins
Risso recommending we start Zaniolo, now I've seen everything ;)
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I don't think anybody is calling for route one football or banging it forward, but there has to be some sort of ability to correct things in game when it's clear things are going badly wrong, as they were against Man U. They had a midfield of Mainoo and
Eriksen and yet they dominated us completely second half.
They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
Yep. They didn't "dominate us in midfield", they just got it forward as quickly as possible getting the ball out of the midfield at the first possible opportunity. There was no "midfield battle" to speak of. They got the ball, and they released their wide forwards as quickly as they could.
At 2-0 down they just went for it, almost gung-ho style. But they had to. We did not play well in that second half, but if McGinn puts his piss-easy chance away, I still think we win that game as it knocks the wind out of their sails.
We need to have a better plan for teams that get it forward quickly like that, but Garnacho IS a good player, and he had an excellent second half.
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I don't think anybody is calling for route one football or banging it forward, but there has to be some sort of ability to correct things in game when it's clear things are going badly wrong, as they were against Man U. They had a midfield of Mainoo and
Eriksen and yet they dominated us completely second half.
They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
Yep. They didn't "dominate us in midfield", they just got it forward as quickly as possible getting the ball out of the midfield at the first possible opportunity. There was no "midfield battle" to speak of. They got the ball, and they released their wide forwards as quickly as they could.
At 2-0 down they just went for it, almost gung-ho style. But they had to. We did not play well in that second half, but if McGinn puts his piss-easy chance away, I still think we win that game as it knocks the wind out of their sails.
We need to have a better plan for teams that get it forward quickly like that, but Garnacho IS a good player, and he had an excellent second half.
We win the game if Carlos doesn’t make a ridiculous misplaced pass. That was the catalyst for them getting their tails up.
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Yeah, why have so many folk got Zaniolo starting? Great header against t'Blades - like a leaping Cascarino in his heyday (i.e not his spell at Villa) but his cameo at OT was no better than Diaby's. I never have confidence that he'll retain possession when he has the ball.
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His cameo at OT was a lot better than Diaby's! Nobody set the world alight but Diaby looked like he'd never played football before.
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I don't think anybody is calling for route one football or banging it forward, but there has to be some sort of ability to correct things in game when it's clear things are going badly wrong, as they were against Man U. They had a midfield of Mainoo and
Eriksen and yet they dominated us completely second half.
They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
Yep. They didn't "dominate us in midfield", they just got it forward as quickly as possible getting the ball out of the midfield at the first possible opportunity. There was no "midfield battle" to speak of. They got the ball, and they released their wide forwards as quickly as they could.
At 2-0 down they just went for it, almost gung-ho style. But they had to. We did not play well in that second half, but if McGinn puts his piss-easy chance away, I still think we win that game as it knocks the wind out of their sails.
We need to have a better plan for teams that get it forward quickly like that, but Garnacho IS a good player, and he had an excellent second half.
We win the game if Carlos doesn’t make a ridiculous misplaced pass. That was the catalyst for them getting their tails up.
Also true. It's also a pass he doesn't need to make if Bouba is playing and in his normal position. Lots of things conspired against us.
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His cameo at OT was a lot better than Diaby's! Nobody set the world alight but Diaby looked like he'd never played football before.
Agreed. Ramsey has also been desperately poor since coming back from injury, and if nothing else Zaniolo has been OK at keeping things tight. I still wouldn't be buying him permamently unless he drastically improves in the second half of the season, but at the moment I think he'd be the least worst option there until JJ gets back to anything like what he's capable of.
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Guys we are playing Burnley not Barcelona. The team managed by a guy who thinks combining a 3 piece suit and a baseball cap is cool. Prick.
I'd drop Irogbunam in , he's ready. Zaniolo is playing like Vinicious Junior compared to Diaby.
I agree McGinn needs a rest but that can wait for Boro
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We've lost to Nottingham Forest, and drawn with Sheffield Utd in our unbreachable fortress. I for one am not in favour of taking the "it's only Burnely" approach to this game. As strong a team as possible until we've killed the game off.
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Dendoncker isn't very good. We need a bit better to be honest, but maybe he'll suffice against Burnley.
I think the suffice against Burnley argument could be used in favour of starting Iroegbunam in place of Dendoncker.
Good call.
Get him in.
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This would have been a good game to play Archer and rest Watkins but alas that ship has sailed
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When Carlos gave it away, we had been pissing about for awhile.
I would not dream of criticising ,but if the ball is up the other end they can not score.
Maybe different tactics against teams that press, Newcastle at home last year a good example. we did not let them sit on the ball and harried them all the way.
I accept being Knackered and having some key players out (as they also did) did not help.
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This would have been a good game to play Archer and rest Watkins but alas that ship has sailed
So you keep telling us.
Watkins and the likes of McGinn will get a proper rest between Burnley and Everton (15 days) and then Everton and Newcastle (16 days), assuming they are not on FA Cup duty.
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When Carlos gave it away, we had been pissing about for awhile.
I would not dream of criticising ,but if the ball is up the other end they can not score.
Maybe different tactics against teams that press, Newcastle at home last year a good example. we did not let them sit on the ball and harried them all the way.
I accept being Knackered and having some key players out (as they also did) did not help.
wrong thread chap
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They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
Agreed - ball-retention and movement were the problems we had on Tuesday
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
He started against Burnley under the Scouse Fraud and played pretty much the whole game, as I pointed out elsewhere on H&V recently. It's a perfect game to try him again on Saturday against a team whose midfield is the not the strongest out there.
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They mainly bypassed the midfield by putting the ball in behind us quickly. To me it seemed the problem was us not retaining possession in vital areas and not dealing well with the turnovers.
Agreed - ball-retention and movement were the problems we had on Tuesday
not to takeaway from the keystone cops defending
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Agree with Mister E, above. We seem to struggle a bit when we lose that natural ball carrier between the midfield and the attack, hence why Tielemans is a big loss at the moment. We need to move the ball a whole lot quicker than we did on Tuesday night and be much more physical. Is Cash actually fit?
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
For me he's like a Declan Rice with added skill and a surprising turn of pace. Loves a tackle, strong, can switch play with a 30-40 yarder, can play right across the midfield, a good ball carrier and can thread a ball through for the strikers. Pretty much the complete midfielder, just missing PL experience. The sooner we get him up to speed the better.
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It currently looks like a wet day with rain most likely for the whole game on Saturday; not sure if that will help or hinder us.
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It currently looks like a wet day with rain most likely for the whole game on Saturday; not sure if that will help or hinder us.
The shirts will be soaking wet either way.
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
For me he's like a Declan Rice with added skill and a surprising turn of pace. Loves a tackle, strong, can switch play with a 30-40 yarder, can play right across the midfield, a good ball carrier and can thread a ball through for the strikers. Pretty much the complete midfielder, just missing PL experience. The sooner we get him up to speed the better.
Iroegbunam like Rice with more skill and pace?! I've heard it all now. He did alright at QPR, whereas Ramsey and Archer ripped up that division. Sell him to Hull and get Philogene back.
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
For me he's like a Declan Rice with added skill and a surprising turn of pace. Loves a tackle, strong, can switch play with a 30-40 yarder, can play right across the midfield, a good ball carrier and can thread a ball through for the strikers. Pretty much the complete midfielder, just missing PL experience. The sooner we get him up to speed the better.
Iroegbunam like Rice with more skill and pace?! I've heard it all now. He did alright at QPR, whereas Ramsey and Archer ripped up that division. Sell him to Hull and get Philogene back.
Philogene, who's playing well in...which division?
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Tim moved the ball sharper than Donk and has a whole season under his belt at QPR where by all accounts he was extremely promising. Maybe that's not enough to start, sure, but it's fair to wonder if he shouldn't play a role at some point.
For me he's like a Declan Rice with added skill and a surprising turn of pace. Loves a tackle, strong, can switch play with a 30-40 yarder, can play right across the midfield, a good ball carrier and can thread a ball through for the strikers. Pretty much the complete midfielder, just missing PL experience. The sooner we get him up to speed the better.
Iroegbunam like Rice with more skill and pace?! I've heard it all now. He did alright at QPR, whereas Ramsey and Archer ripped up that division. Sell him to Hull and get Philogene back.
Not sure why you would link them in a deal, very different type of players. Having Philogene available would not address the issue we have with injured and suspended central midfield players.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Iroegbunam ends up at Sunderland in January for the rest of the season. Re-connect with Beale who seems to rate him.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Iroegbunam ends up at Sunderland in January for the rest of the season. Re-connect with Beale who seems to rate him.
Beale tried to sign him for Rangers in Scotland. If it's a loan I could live with it but i really hope we don't sell him.
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His 10 minutes against Man U really isn't a lot to go on. I suspect most people weren't watching QPR games intently last season, and I don't think he especially stood out in a struggling team.
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His 10 minutes against Man U really isn't a lot to go on. I suspect most people weren't watching QPR games intently last season, and I don't think he especially stood out in a struggling team.
From what I remember he absolutely stood out.
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QPR fans loved him
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Iroegbunam like Rice with more skill and pace?! I've heard it all now. He did alright at QPR, whereas Ramsey and Archer ripped up that division. Sell him to Hull and get Philogene back.
As previously mentioned, he was pulling up trees at QPR until Beale pissed off to Servco. They then brought in the bloke from Blackpool and everything fell apart. I think he has better feet than Rice, more skillfull and certainly has a turn of pace Rice could only dream of. Considering he's still only 20 I think he's going to be a wonderful player if he can avoid injuries. Wasn't he supposed to go on our US tour but got injured? I think this is pretty much the first time he's been fully injury free since he returned from QPR.
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QPR fans loved him
Can't find much on his time there, but this forum doesn't seem to think so: https://loftforwords.fansnetwork.co.uk/forum/295339/tim-iroegbunam/
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Don’t think Unai can afford to leave Watkins out two games in a row!!
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Don’t think Unai can afford to leave Watkins out two games in a row!!
Eh ?
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I hope tonight provides our squad a well needed boost of confidence. We need to handle our own affairs of course but after a tough loss, we have a chance to get back on track.
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Sorry Tim, but I didn’t see him in the last match.
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Sorry Tim, but I didn’t see him in the last match.
True . I'd not seen Luiz either
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Tim, we’re beginning to sound like Jason Cundy on Talksport!!
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Tim, we’re beginning to sound like Jason Cundy on Talksport!!
In association with Jewsons , it's where the trade goes.
(Can't stand talksport btw , not listened in years )
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I only listen to it in between Villa Podcasts. They should rename it Talk Adverts as that’s usually all you hear.
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I only listen to it in between Villa Podcasts. They should rename it Talk Adverts as that’s usually all you hear.
About 10 years ago I'd listen in the car occasionally, now I never listen in part as I'm never in the car during rush hour now
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Tim, we’re beginning to sound like Jason Cundy on Talksport!!
In association with Jewsons , it's where the trade goes.
(Can't stand talksport btw , not listened in years )
Isn’t it Selco where the trade goes?
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The yellow card rule changes to 10 now, right?
Durán, McGinn, Zaniolo and Konsa are all on 4 yellow cards at the moment, which could have led to some selection problems.
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The yellow card rule changes to 10 now, right?
Durán, McGinn, Zaniolo and Konsa are all on 4 yellow cards at the moment, which could have led to some selection problems.
A Duran suspension I think we can just about manage
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The yellow card rule changes to 10 now, right?
Durán, McGinn, Zaniolo and Konsa are all on 4 yellow cards at the moment, which could have led to some selection problems.
Past the midway point now so it’s shifted to 10
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Most results were kind to us mid week so if we can manage a good result against Burnley, who will come to play and not defend, our own brain fart won't seem quite as bad (I know it was the Manc's and we obliged them yet again but...)
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We've lost to Nottingham Forest, and drawn with Sheffield Utd in our unbreachable fortress. I for one am not in favour of taking the "it's only Burnely" approach to this game. As strong a team as possible until we've killed the game off.
Absolutely, 100% this.
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Well, we've been afforded an opportunity, we need to take it.
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Getting nervous about this, feels season defining, need to wash a few stodgy performances out of our hair and get back to winning ways.
A home win sets 2024 and the second half of the season up nicely.
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Getting nervous about this, feels season defining, need to wash a few stodgy performances out of our hair and get back to winning ways.
A home win sets 2024 and the second half of the season up nicely.
Boxing day was season defining, this is about clawing back some credibility as top 4 contenders.
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I'm not sure about clawing back credibility, every team drops points. It is about us bouncing back though which Under Emery we seem to do very quickly.
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The Man U game might have been season defining if other results hadn't gone our way. As it is we're in much the same position we have been for most of the month. Nothing has been decided by 1 poor loss.
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Getting nervous about this, feels season defining, need to wash a few stodgy performances out of our hair and get back to winning ways.
A home win sets 2024 and the second half of the season up nicely.
Boxing day was season defining, this is about clawing back some credibility as top 4 contenders.
It really wasn’t in the same way as Arsenal and Spurs losing last night will not define their seasons.
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Getting nervous about this, feels season defining, need to wash a few stodgy performances out of our hair and get back to winning ways.
A home win sets 2024 and the second half of the season up nicely.
Boxing day was season defining, this is about clawing back some credibility as top 4 contenders.
It really wasn’t in the same way as Arsenal and Spurs losing last night will not define their seasons.
Well it *can* be defining. Like it felt when we failed to beat Stoke all those years ago. It depends what comes next doesn't it? Beat Burnley and go on another run and it won't haver defined anything other than a shocking way to ruin Boxing Day. But, if we wobble from here it will be hard not to attribute it to a loss of momentum, as well as missing key players and shit just happening.
I think we'll beat Burnley.
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QPR fans loved him
Can't find much on his time there, but this forum doesn't seem to think so: https://loftforwords.fansnetwork.co.uk/forum/295339/tim-iroegbunam/
One win in 19 (NINETEEN) and it's all his fault. He even gets criticised for scoring. Bit of a different vibe to earlier in the season where they were discussing if Tim was the best ever youngster to play for QPR - he wasn't Clive Allen was apparently.
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QPR fans loved him
Can't find much on his time there, but this forum doesn't seem to think so: https://loftforwords.fansnetwork.co.uk/forum/295339/tim-iroegbunam/
One win in 19 (NINETEEN) and it's all his fault. He even gets criticised for scoring. Bit of a different vibe to earlier in the season where they were discussing if Tim was the best ever youngster to play for QPR - he wasn't Clive Allen was apparently.
They seem a capricious bunch.
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Getting nervous about this, feels season defining, need to wash a few stodgy performances out of our hair and get back to winning ways.
A home win sets 2024 and the second half of the season up nicely.
Boxing day was season defining, this is about clawing back some credibility as top 4 contenders.
It really wasn’t in the same way as Arsenal and Spurs losing last night will not define their seasons.
Well it *can* be defining. Like it felt when we failed to beat Stoke all those years ago. It depends what comes next doesn't it? Beat Burnley and go on another run and it won't haver defined anything other than a shocking way to ruin Boxing Day. But, if we wobble from here it will be hard not to attribute it to a loss of momentum, as well as missing key players and shit just happening.
I think we'll beat Burnley.
I see your point but that’s speculative surely rather than definitive. In hindsight the result might take on greater significance but equally a win tomorrow will move us into second in the table (Arsenal are away to Fulham on Sunday).
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nothing is season defining in December. Please get a grip :D
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Could be, you come second by a point and failed to beat Sheffield United at home in December, you could say that defined your season.
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QPR fans loved him
Can't find much on his time there, but this forum doesn't seem to think so: https://loftforwords.fansnetwork.co.uk/forum/295339/tim-iroegbunam/
One win in 19 (NINETEEN) and it's all his fault. He even gets criticised for scoring. Bit of a different vibe to earlier in the season where they were discussing if Tim was the best ever youngster to play for QPR - he wasn't Clive Allen was apparently.
They seem a capricious bunch.
Still, hardly ringing endorsements.
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Of him playing long term as the cornerstone of a midfield at the age of 18, no. But Unai brought him on when chasing a goal at Old Trafford, which for my money counts as an endorsement of sorts. And I think he knows a bit more about football than your average dyspeptic Rs fan moping about the internet.
I'd be surprised to see him start, but equally surprised to not see him play more and more of a role as the season goes on, even if for someone else on loan.
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Could be, you come second by a point and failed to beat Sheffield United at home in December, you could say that defined your season.
If we miss out on something by a point we could single out any number of games as the one to blame. Unless there's a really contentious decision or incident that directly leads to us dropping points, or there's literally only one game that we don't win all season, I don't think you can single out that's the specific game that lost us the league, or cost us CL, or whatever it is.
Liverpool, for example, might be pointing to that Spurs game if they end up 2nd by a point.
If we don't beat Burnley and have a bad run of results after that too, then maybe we'll look back on the Man U game and say that's the point things turned for us, but at this stage in proceedings it might mean nothing, it might push us on and be the last game we drop points in all season. We'll have to wait and see.
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Of him playing long term as the cornerstone of a midfield at the age of 18, no. But Unai brought him on when chasing a goal at Old Trafford, which for my money counts as an endorsement of sorts. And I think he knows a bit more about football than your average dyspeptic Rs fan moping about the internet.
I'd be surprised to see him start, but equally surprised to not see him play more and more of a role as the season goes on, even if for someone else on loan.
All of that is very fair, but people are calling for him to start a game that is vital to us regaining confidence and getting back on track, based on the most flimsy of evidence.
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Indeed, I think that was mostly in the frantic feeling after the loss, the obvious need to plug a gap in midfield, and Tim looking tidier on the ball than Donk in his cameo (which isn't surprising as he is clearly more technically gifted, however his career actually turns out). Maybe a start is fanciful - McGinn could go central and Ramsey or Diaby could get one more go with Zaniolo the other side - but I think we may well see Tim at some point.
AV84 - sure, any given game would be The One, but failing to beat a relegated side at home would surely be the biggest missed opportunity.
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It’s now time for this team to show some resolve, the confidence has been rattled time to build again I think we will win 1:0
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AV84 - sure, any given game would be The One, but failing to beat a relegated side at home would surely be the biggest missed opportunity.
Yeah, fair point, but realistically we've dropped 3 points to Liverpool, a team were in direct competition with. We've dropped 3 points to Forrest, a team that might get relegated. We've dropped 15 points over the season so far. That's what will have cost us whatever we lose out on in this hypothetical final table.
Clawing back a point against Sheffield Utd might he the thing that gets us 4th instead of 5th, and then it looks like a more positive defining point of the season. I guess it just depends on how you look at these things, and where we finish. Hopefully, wherever it is, it's by 4 points or more.
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Of him playing long term as the cornerstone of a midfield at the age of 18, no. But Unai brought him on when chasing a goal at Old Trafford, which for my money counts as an endorsement of sorts. And I think he knows a bit more about football than your average dyspeptic Rs fan moping about the internet.
I'd be surprised to see him start, but equally surprised to not see him play more and more of a role as the season goes on, even if for someone else on loan.
All of that is very fair, but people are calling for him to start a game that is vital to us regaining confidence and getting back on track, based on the most flimsy of evidence.
Oh ye of little faith. ;)
I guess we'll stick with the Donk until Kamara is available again which is fine if Dougie decides to turn up. It's a shame Ramsey is still struggling to regain his form, we need somebody to carry the ball and run at the opposition creating panic. Maybe Moreno can do it, Bailey at Villa Park can do it too. Not sure if Diaby will start but ideally we can stretch Burnley by using both flanks. No doubt Unai has a plan.
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This is a "must win" game.
Not for the fact that we have had a little hiccup in the last game, or for the league placing, etc.
But its "must win", because they are so shit that if we don't win, I will throw a tea-cup & upset my cat.
And nobody wants that...
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Results last night were helpful - we need to turn up now.
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I just have a feeling that Burnley are the sort of side that will allow us to play to our strengths. They won't kettle or park the bus like SUFC did. They will try to go at us man to man and surely we have the chops to overcome that
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I've already placed my bets, just to take a bit of the sting off in the event we don't win.
I'll be doing it until the end of the season now. Hopefully I'll lose all my money. I'm pretty good at that usually.
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Just looked at their away results so far earlier and although they have lost more than they have won, only really Brentford (3-0) and given what you’d call a spanking. The other defeats have been by one or two goals.
So, my uneducated analysis is, we have to be on the front foot from the 1st minute like the Fulham game.
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Against the teams lower down in the league the most important thing is to score early on, if we can do that we can dominate and go on to win comfortably
If not The longer it goes on the worse it becomes i.e. Sheffield United
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Whatever the result 2023 has been fantastic
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Whatever the result 2023 has been fantastic
Except for Boxing Day. ;-)
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Last little wobble we had was back to back defeats against May Ure then Wolves last April, we followed that with 3 really good performances to finish the season.
I’m confident Emery will nip this mini wobble in the bud, it won’t be easy but a 1-0 win would be lovely, then we can put the PL on the back burner for two weeks while we begin our journey to FA Cup glory.
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Liverpool are at home to Newcastle and could easily drop points there.
We might just be back in the title race with a win here lads.
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Liverpool are at home to Newcastle and could easily drop points there.
We might just be back in the title race with a win here lads.
Far more likely Newcastle are killed off entirely here. Unless they've had a miraculous return to full health in the last few days.
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Whatever the result 2023 has been fantastic
Except for Boxing Day. ;-)
And about seven other games. Emery's been totes amaze.
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Whatever the result 2023 has been fantastic
Except for Boxing Day. ;-)
I’m going for mean median and mode mate!
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I fully agree with you. Up the Villa!
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Liverpool are at home to Newcastle and could easily drop points there.
We might just be back in the title race with a win here lads.
And/or feeling a touch better about 4th/5th.
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A win would bring back the feel good factor and keep us nicely amongst the top 4. It would be nice to see a top level performance too but overall the 3 points however they come is the most important .
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Pau is not ready to start apparently. Digne three or four weeks. Cash available again.
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A win would bring back the feel good factor and keep us nicely amongst the top 4. It would be nice to see a top level performance too but overall the 3 points however they come is the most important .
Agreed.
By the way, where is Footy-Vill? I miss his posts. Hope he's had a nice Christmas.
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Pau is not ready to start apparently. Digne three or four weeks. Cash available again.
Squad looking very light right now
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A win would bring back the feel good factor and keep us nicely amongst the top 4. It would be nice to see a top level performance too but overall the 3 points however they come is the most important .
Agreed.
By the way, where is Footy-Vill? I miss his posts. Hope he's had a nice Christmas.
Footy-Vill kept pushing and pushing for the Brentford pre-match thread to be started and when it finally was they wished everyone a Happy Christmas and said they'd be offline for a bit. I think we were all expecting some deeply researched stats about Brentford and who was refereeing, but nope, they just upped and vanished.
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Pau is not ready to start apparently. Digne three or four weeks. Cash available again.
No Torres is a blow , guess Konsa and Carlos then with cash back at RB
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
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What is the point of putting unfit players on the bench?
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Knowing the usual Villa speak of “it’s not a bad injury”, does anyone else think Torres, Digne or anyone else we have minor injuries to will ever play again?
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Knowing the usual Villa speak of “it’s not a bad injury”, does anyone else think Torres, Digne or anyone else we have minor injuries to will ever play again?
Add Tielemans to the list and Ramsey doesn't look right either.
Traore been out for months it seems not that it matters too much.
Without risking sounding like a Spurs fan The squad really is wafer thin
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If he was to fill the bench with kids or an extra keeper, he would be accused of 'sending a message to the owners'. That was suggested a month or two after he joined bizarrely.
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Yeah, sounds like Torres isn't able to play a full 90+ so we'll be sticking with Lenglet for this one. I'm fine with that, I just wish he'd play Konsa beside him and Cash at RB.
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Yeah, sounds like Torres isn't able to play a full 90+ so we'll be sticking with Lenglet for this one. I'm fine with that, I just wish he'd play Konsa beside him and Cash at RB.
So do I, Carlos should be dropped.
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Konsa at RB is his stubborn side . I'd also play cash drop Carlos and play the CB as a CB
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That said..... possibly the only time Cash as a winger worked well was against Burnley when he scored twice, so who knows, maybe it could work again.
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Could be, you come second by a point and failed to beat Sheffield United at home in December, you could say that defined your season.
Likewise, that point could be season defining, showing our ability to never give up and fighting to the end. It could be the point that secures the title, or top 4 etc.
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Odobert and Ramsey will have a field day against this fatigued squad. I fancy the first to score or assist and if Kompany brings on the latter after 50 minutes it's going to be a bad time. They'll want it more.
Hopefully Watkins doesn't play in the pockets of Beyer and O'Shea because he's far more effective not positioning so touch tight. I remember when Watkins used to press defenders into doing all kinds of mistakes! He does very little of that now mainly banking on the perfect pass.
Looking at their last 3 matches we'll either win or lose 2-0.
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Torres is in the training pictures they released on social media actively partaking so whatever he has cannot be too terrible, so why not rotate until he is 100%
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If he was to fill the bench with kids or an extra keeper, he would be accused of 'sending a message to the owners'. That was suggested a month or two after he joined bizarrely.
The only bizarre thing Clamps, is the lengths you'll go to have a go at other posters. I hope you win some free Adidas trainers soon, and cheer up as a result.
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He isn't fit enough for a full game, so play Lenglet and use Torres only if there's an injury, he'd cover the last half an hour I'd guess.
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Torres is in the training pictures they released on social media actively partaking so whatever he has cannot be too terrible, so why not rotate until he is 100%
I think it's just Emery being cautious. Better to start Lenglet and maybe not need to play Torres at all, than to start Torres and be forced to make a substitution early in the game.
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Odobert and Ramsey will have a field day against this fatigued squad. I fancy the first to score or assist and if Kompany brings on the latter after 50 minutes it's going to be a bad time. They'll want it more.
Hopefully Watkins doesn't play in the pockets of Beyer and O'Shea because he's far more effective not positioning so touch tight. I remember when Watkins used to press defenders into doing all kinds of mistakes! He does very little of that now mainly banking on the perfect pass.
Looking at their last 3 matches we'll either win or lose 2-0.
Which would you prefer, that Watkins in that team or this Watkins in this third placed team? Out of interest and all that?
Also, this could all go Pete Tong and I’m not being a presumptive idiot, but the day we have to fear O’Shea, is the day we pack up. And Ramsey is going to have a field day, he’s only played about 5 minutes for them?
I get that many of us now have the fear after a week off work and far too much of the good life…maybe thats it.
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Also, this could all go Pete Tong and I’m not being a presumptive idiot, but the day we have to fear O’Shea, is the day we pack up.
**Cough**Johnny Evans**Cough**35**Cough**Pocket**Cough**
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Still no Torres, Tielemans, Kamara and now Lucas Digne. Squad looks decidedly threadbare. Why doesn't UE tell us exactly what the injuries are. What does 'small' injury mean? No idea what is keeping Youri Tielemans out. The Kamara suspension has really screwed the midfield balance.
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Also, this could all go Pete Tong and I’m not being a presumptive idiot, but the day we have to fear O’Shea, is the day we pack up.
**Cough**Johnny Evans**Cough**35**Cough**Pocket**Cough**
urgh I wish we had gone long the other day more with Ollie down the channels . sorry last I will say
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Liverpool are at home to Newcastle and could easily drop points there.
We might just be back in the title race with a win here lads.
Errr...since when have we been out of the title race? You are talking like BBC/Sky people now my friend.
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Odobert and Ramsey will have a field day against this fatigued squad. I fancy the first to score or assist and if Kompany brings on the latter after 50 minutes it's going to be a bad time. They'll want it more.
So, remind me again where Burnley are in the League?
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Odobert and Ramsey will have a field day against this fatigued squad. I fancy the first to score or assist and if Kompany brings on the latter after 50 minutes it's going to be a bad time. They'll want it more.
So, remind me again where Burnley are in the League?
One above Sheffield Utd.
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Still no Torres, Tielemans, Kamara and now Lucas Digne. Squad looks decidedly threadbare. Why doesn't UE tell us exactly what the injuries are. What does 'small' injury mean? No idea what is keeping Youri Tielemans out. The Kamara suspension has really screwed the midfield balance.
idiotic red card and very costly and if Martinez leaves the French midget on the floor none of this happens
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Still no Torres, Tielemans, Kamara and now Lucas Digne. Squad looks decidedly threadbare. Why doesn't UE tell us exactly what the injuries are. What does 'small' injury mean? No idea what is keeping Youri Tielemans out. The Kamara suspension has really screwed the midfield balance.
idiotic red card and very costly and if Martinez leaves the French midget on the floor none of this happens
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Still no Torres, Tielemans, Kamara and now Lucas Digne. Squad looks decidedly threadbare. Why doesn't UE tell us exactly what the injuries are. What does 'small' injury mean? No idea what is keeping Youri Tielemans out. The Kamara suspension has really screwed the midfield balance.
Tielemens was a calf injury
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I didn't know he had any cows.
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I didn't know he had any cows.
He doesn’t, he has whales.
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Still no Torres, Tielemans, Kamara and now Lucas Digne. Squad looks decidedly threadbare. Why doesn't UE tell us exactly what the injuries are. What does 'small' injury mean? No idea what is keeping Youri Tielemans out. The Kamara suspension has really screwed the midfield balance.
Torres is covered by Lenglet who hasn't done badly and there is Mings who suffered a season ending injury in the first game.
Tielemans and Buendia, and the latter with a likely season-ender too. But also there's Ramsey coming back from injury, McGinn, Zaniolo etc
Kamara has Dendoncker and Iroegbunam. We have clearly been trying to replace Dendoncker if reports are to be believed.
Digne was second choice behind Moreno himself recently returned from injury.
That's not threadbare.
The Kamara absence has indeed come at a cost and he's a very hard one to replace and cover.
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It is interesting that, over the last month or so, Kamara seems to have proved harder to replace even than Doug.
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Also, this could all go Pete Tong and I’m not being a presumptive idiot, but the day we have to fear O’Shea, is the day we pack up.
**Cough**Johnny Evans**Cough**35**Cough**Pocket**Cough**
Fair comment, but Johnny Evans is several rungs above O’Shea.
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It is interesting that, over the last month or so, Kamara seems to have proved harder to replace even than Doug.
Was Kamara the only one missing for any of the games he was out for? Not trying to dismiss his importance, just wondering, as Torres has been missing also for the last 2 games, and Tielemans.
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It is interesting that, over the last month or so, Kamara seems to have proved harder to replace even than Doug.
Was Kamara the only one missing for any of the games he was out for? Not trying to dismiss his importance, just wondering, as Torres has been missing also for the last 2 games, and Tielemans.
More just making the straight comparison with Doug, who most would've said is the better player. And he might well be - just that Kamara seems to do something vital that we can't replace with a single player.
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More just making the straight comparison with Doug, who most would've said is the better player. And he might well be - just that Kamara seems to do something vital that we can't replace with a single player.
We definitely miss him, no question. And at the start of the season when we were struggling to get a bit of consistency going, it was the midfield that was the "problem". So it seems like that's the area where even one change can throw everything off. Although obviously it doesn't help having the midfield and the defence messed with. Let's hope we never have to find out what happens if Watkins misses a game.
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Apart from.getting caught on.the ball.at Old Trafford which led to.the corner for their third goal, he's done OK when he's been called upon.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
That team would struggle to score a goal. It might work out to be an absolute blessing we only have 2 league matches next month.
Cash, poor
Lenglet, not Pau
Moreno, hit or miss
McGinn, needs a break
Denny, not Kamara
Ramsey, still looks injured
Diaby, poor
Watkins, doesn't do enough throughout
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Odobert and Ramsey will have a field day against this fatigued squad. I fancy the first to score or assist and if Kompany brings on the latter after 50 minutes it's going to be a bad time. They'll want it more.
So, remind me again where Burnley are in the League?
One above Sheffield Utd.
Lightening doesn’t strike twice…..etc etc
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Last time we did the League double over Burnley was in 1925-26.
We beat them 10-0 at home that season, which would be nice.
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
That team would struggle to score a goal. It might work out to be an absolute blessing we only have 2 league matches next month.
Cash, poor
Lenglet, not Pau
Moreno, hit or miss
McGinn, needs a break
Denny, not Kamara
Ramsey, still looks injured
Diaby, poor
Watkins, doesn't do enough throughout
I too received a shit in my stocking.
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
That team would struggle to score a goal. It might work out to be an absolute blessing we only have 2 league matches next month.
Cash, poor
Lenglet, not Pau
Moreno, hit or miss
McGinn, needs a break
Denny, not Kamara
Ramsey, still looks injured
Diaby, poor
Watkins, doesn't do enough throughout
Shows what a genius Emery is to have us third at the turn with all these poor players that will apparently struggle against one of the worst sides in the league.
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Bailey needs to start today
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
That team would struggle to score a goal. It might work out to be an absolute blessing we only have 2 league matches next month.
Cash, poor
Lenglet, not Pau
Moreno, hit or miss
McGinn, needs a break
Denny, not Kamara
Ramsey, still looks injured
Diaby, poor
Watkins, doesn't do enough throughout
I too received a shit in my stocking.
I think we all did, just about 36 hours late.
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I think this is tough - we have a number of key absences and our confidence will have taken a hit in the last two games. I think we need an early goal, and assuming he plays we need JJ to start picking up form.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Lenglet
Moreno
McGinn
Dendonker
Luiz
Ramsey
Bailey
Watkins
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Lenglet
Moreno
McGinn
Dendonker
Luiz
Ramsey
Bailey
Watkins
I think I have seen enough of Dendonker , but needs must I suppose.
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He sounded very much as if he was going to continue with Lenglet.
Would just go with a familiar formation tomorrow and a team of:
Martinez, Cash. Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno, McGinn, Dendoncker. Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby and Watkins
That team would struggle to score a goal. It might work out to be an absolute blessing we only have 2 league matches next month.
Cash, poor
Lenglet, not Pau
Moreno, hit or miss
McGinn, needs a break
Denny, not Kamara
Ramsey, still looks injured
Diaby, poor
Watkins, doesn't do enough throughout
It's the formation we've used at home for a lot of the games over that past year and haven't struggled to score. I accept that some of them are out of form, but hope that this is the kind of game some can play themselves back into it.
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I really hope we don't play at a snails pace again like we did v SUFC.
Makes it too easy for these teams to set up and assemble their shape.
We need to be quicker and also mix it up a bit today.
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I really hope we don't play at a snails pace again like we did v SUFC.
Makes it too easy for these teams to set up and assemble their shape.
We need to be quicker and also mix it up a bit today.
I’m assuming you haven’t heard much about Burnley? They will not be sitting with a low block.
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Burnley play decent football these days, and it'll suit us.
Win Villa.
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I really hope we don't play at a snails pace again like we did v SUFC.
Makes it too easy for these teams to set up and assemble their shape.
We need to be quicker and also mix it up a bit today.
I’m assuming you haven’t heard much about Burnley? They will not be sitting with a low block.
Kind of stupid that they won't, given how it's the most likely way to get a result against any of the top teams.
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Oh no, we can forget this season as I’ve just seen that Traore has been chosen for the Afcon by Burkino Faso!!
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Amazing how he can be fit for international games and always injured for domestic games.
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Must be a Traore thing. Bournemouth's Traore got malaria on international duty in November. Still recovering from it.
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Amazing how he can be fit for international games and always injured for domestic games.
Which is why we need to get shut of him asap, if anyone is mug enough to take him on that is.
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Was Bertrand Traore another of Lange's brain fart ideas
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A birthday hat-trick for Ollie Watkins would be nice.