Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 17, 2023, 04:01:38 PM
Post by: algy on December 17, 2023, 04:02:21 PM
Post by: LeeB on December 17, 2023, 04:03:03 PM
Up the fucking Villa.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
Post by: Villan82 on December 17, 2023, 04:03:12 PM
Post by: villadelph on December 17, 2023, 04:03:19 PM
Eat shit Brentford, scumbags.
Post by: Bad English on December 17, 2023, 04:03:23 PM
Stupid red Bouba!
Post by: UK Redsox on December 17, 2023, 04:03:46 PM
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 17, 2023, 04:03:55 PM
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 04:04:20 PM
Post by: Axl Rose on December 17, 2023, 04:04:34 PM
Maupay is an odious little ******.
Get in, Villa.
Post by: TopDeck113 on December 17, 2023, 04:04:42 PM
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 04:04:47 PM
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 17, 2023, 04:04:59 PM
Post by: WarszaVillan on December 17, 2023, 04:05:12 PM
Post by: Goldenballs on December 17, 2023, 04:05:13 PM
Post by: Rigadon on December 17, 2023, 04:05:27 PM
Post by: Matt C on December 17, 2023, 04:05:42 PM
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 04:05:50 PM
Right, let's hammer Sheffield United to go top!
Post by: Rigadon on December 17, 2023, 04:06:05 PM
That one’s for you, Ben Mee, you dirty sorry excuse for a PL footballer.
Yes yes and thrice yes. FUCK OFF YOU ******
Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2023, 04:06:09 PM
Post by: Scovilla on December 17, 2023, 04:06:14 PM
Up The Villa.
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on December 17, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
We are no longer going under the radar teams are going to kick shit out of us now
Post by: Nev on December 17, 2023, 04:06:18 PM
Although some of what we saw was probably unnecessary, I want people to hate us, particularly if we keep pissing them off by winning.
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 17, 2023, 04:06:28 PM
Post by: taylorsworkrate on December 17, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
Referee let it boil over, unacceptable. No control.
Eat shit Brentford, scumbags.
I always find it a bit ridiculous that referees are blamed for players acting like angry toddlers.
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 04:06:38 PM
Post by: London Villan on December 17, 2023, 04:07:04 PM
Well done lads - big big win!
Post by: Rigadon on December 17, 2023, 04:07:21 PM
Post by: Goldenballs on December 17, 2023, 04:07:28 PM
Post by: Bad English on December 17, 2023, 04:07:43 PM
Post by: LukeJames on December 17, 2023, 04:07:48 PM
Please can we stop with the Cash midfield experiment now. It seems like we fo it most away games, go behind, change it and thankfully rescue it.
If we could occasionally score the first goal away from home that would be great.
What a fucking steel these boys have though.
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
Kamara being out for 3 games isn't great news. Hopefully Tielemans injury isn't serious and he'll be available, and Ramsey will shake off the rust sooner rather than later. McGinn is 1 yellow away from a suspension too, as is Cash. It could be a tricky few weeks to navigate if we're not careful.
Post by: pelty on December 17, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
Post by: FatSam on December 17, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 17, 2023, 04:08:21 PM
Post by: Nelly on December 17, 2023, 04:08:30 PM
Astonishing that we are 2nd, 4 points clear of Man City in 4th having played the same games. I dunno what's going on but I love it.
Post by: Axl Rose on December 17, 2023, 04:08:40 PM
Came on, fouled , dived, cheated, puffed out his chest.
Horrible
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 04:09:10 PM
Post by: Richard E on December 17, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
Post by: Nev on December 17, 2023, 04:10:07 PM
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 04:10:24 PM
Post by: Smirker on December 17, 2023, 04:10:39 PM
UTV FTF
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2023, 04:10:57 PM
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 17, 2023, 04:12:34 PM
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 04:12:57 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/F0hwChS/IMG-1338.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F0hwChS)
Post by: Ger Regan on December 17, 2023, 04:13:47 PM
Post by: bilsim on December 17, 2023, 04:13:48 PM
Out of character for Watkins so something more to that. He vanished down the tunnel pretty quickly as well.
He was also very clearly explaining something to Thomas Frank and pointing towards the fan. Makes me think there was a particularly egregious comment.
Post by: FatSam on December 17, 2023, 04:13:58 PM
Out of character for Watkins so something more to that. He vanished down the tunnel pretty quickly as well.Yes, he seemed to be explaining it to Thomas Frank as he went down the tunnel. I wonder if he will go into any detail publicly.
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 04:13:58 PM
Fuck off Thomas. And you shove your whiteboard up your arse too.
(https://i.ibb.co/F0hwChS/IMG-1338.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F0hwChS)
Fucking sideways!
Post by: gpbarr on December 17, 2023, 04:14:28 PM
Ben Mee - 100% C.U.N.T - simple as that. The league will be better off when he's gone for good.
And the referee - jesus, what is going on with PGMOL. Not fit to officiate my 7yr old's Sunday kick-about, an absolute shit show.
I love this team. I love Unai. UTV
Post by: supertom on December 17, 2023, 04:14:49 PM
What a crazy game.
Generally, we've been quite good in terms of our discipline so it's disappointing to see all that bollocks going on at the end. Kamara's got himself a very needless red card all coming from Emi taking his shithousing a bit too far. I do love Emi taking the piss a bit, but there's a limit and he's led to an avoidable situation. Ollie shouldn't be winding up the home fans either, no matter if they've been at him during the game.
Anyway, that aside, Bailey made a difference again and I'm hoping he's fit enough to start the next game. But Leon my son...please...NO BACK PASSES! Shitting hell.
What on Earth has happened to Diaby? He never seems to drive at defenders any more. He needs some kind of spark but I suspect that will have to happen at Villa park.
Thought Zaniolo did well when he came on. Bought a couple of clever fouls to take the sting out of the game too.
I'm really hoping Moreno and JJ can get tuned in and up to full swing in the next couple of weeks. The ring rust is clear but a goal for Moreno certainly helps.
Didn't play that well but we won. Job done. More importantly, we won at a ground where we seem to struggle. Unai is undoubtedly going to be dishing out some bollockings though.
Post by: villadelph on December 17, 2023, 04:15:30 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 04:16:05 PM
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 17, 2023, 04:16:18 PM
Did well to see that out in the mad last 15 mins though. For years we were far too nice, even under MON. This team's different, we will not be fucked around with.
Post by: enigma on December 17, 2023, 04:16:35 PM
Fuck off Thomas. And you can shove your whiteboard up your arse too.Your Poinsettia looks a lot healthier than mine does.
(https://i.ibb.co/F0hwChS/IMG-1338.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F0hwChS)
Post by: Grocer on December 17, 2023, 04:16:54 PM
Obviously a great result, but the Kamara red card leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Feels like poor game management to let ourselves get drawn into that when we were leading in injury time. I’m worried about the consequences of going into some tough games without our best central midfield pairing.
Agree with this. Great win though, really hard fought in the end. Diego had a great game I thought. Ironic that the filthy prick Mee helped us gain the momentum to go on and win, thanks Ben.
Post by: Nev on December 17, 2023, 04:17:12 PM
Hypocritical scruff bag
Post by: Paul.S on December 17, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
There’s a chance for someone to come in and show what they’re made of now. We’ll have much bigger issues in the months ahead so let’s see what the squad is made of.
Post by: jon collett on December 17, 2023, 04:18:12 PM
I will never understand not playing Konsa in the middle despite the City game but who am I to question Unai.
Two sendings off completely changed the game at different points.
We will miss Kamara but hopefully cope.
Good to see Ollie score again!
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 17, 2023, 04:18:37 PM
Post by: johnc on December 17, 2023, 04:18:44 PM
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 04:19:04 PM
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 17, 2023, 04:19:37 PM
Post by: Ian on December 17, 2023, 04:20:19 PM
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 04:20:45 PM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 17, 2023, 04:21:05 PM
Unai the myth buster.
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 17, 2023, 04:21:14 PM
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 17, 2023, 04:21:28 PM
Post by: Villa Lew on December 17, 2023, 04:21:59 PM
Post by: Villafirst on December 17, 2023, 04:23:16 PM
Post by: LukeJames on December 17, 2023, 04:23:50 PM
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 04:24:43 PM
I missed the game! Why did Torres go off? Tactical? Anyway,another win which is brilliant.
Yeah, tactical. 2-1 up against ten men, with their sole attacker being that muppet Maupay. Surprised he didn't take Emi off as well. (Might have been an idea if he had! ;) )
Post by: BC Villain on December 17, 2023, 04:25:11 PM
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 17, 2023, 04:25:12 PM
We're second. Holy shit. Second!
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 17, 2023, 04:25:25 PM
Post by: johnc on December 17, 2023, 04:25:44 PM
They were down to 10 men. We needed to won. Swit he'd a defender for an attackerI missed the game! Why did Torres go off? Tactical? Anyway, another win which is brilliant.
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on December 17, 2023, 04:27:17 PM
It was pretty even first half maybe we just shaded it but they got the goal. 2nd half they were camped on their own 18 yard box and just launching it to safety. so a deserved win.
Just a pity about our red car. No need to get involved. Let Maypay lay down and run the clock down for us.
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 04:27:43 PM
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on December 17, 2023, 04:31:02 PM
Amazing!
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2023, 04:31:14 PM
I thought, we just lacked that cutting edge around the box until we scored. Shame it was marred by Kamara getting sent off. Right, off to look at the table.
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2023, 04:32:58 PM
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 17, 2023, 04:33:42 PM
I can't believe we're on 38 points.Relegation worries over then
Amazing!
Post by: ventnorVillain on December 17, 2023, 04:34:50 PM
Post by: Pete3206 on December 17, 2023, 04:37:30 PM
Post by: Legion on December 17, 2023, 04:38:46 PM
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 17, 2023, 04:39:39 PM
Great win although hopefully not too costly with the red
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 04:39:41 PM
Post by: algy on December 17, 2023, 04:39:49 PM
I can't believe we're on 38 points.I know. Just 1 win away from being mostly safe from the relegation scrap!
Amazing!
Post by: Legion on December 17, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
Post by: Villafirst on December 17, 2023, 04:41:05 PM
I can't believe we're on 38 points.
Amazing!
2 points from safety!
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 17, 2023, 04:41:44 PM
Fuck off Thomas. And you shove your whiteboard up your arse too.
(https://i.ibb.co/F0hwChS/IMG-1338.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F0hwChS)
Fucking sideways!
Hit it long, kick the opposition, thats what is in that whieboard.
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 04:43:40 PM
5 points clear of spuds
9 points clear of the jawdies.
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 04:45:13 PM
Post by: Legion on December 17, 2023, 04:45:44 PM
I'm not sure how Kamara was red carded and other players were not.
Hand in the face.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 04:48:10 PM
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 17, 2023, 04:48:29 PM
All time classic, that one.
Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2023, 04:50:36 PM
Fucking great.Yes, and I love it when they hate Emi. Love having a player like that in OUR team.
Although some of what we saw was probably unnecessary, I want people to hate us, particularly if we keep pissing them off by winning.
Post by: The Left Side on December 17, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
Post by: spk on December 17, 2023, 04:53:24 PM
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 04:53:38 PM
I'm not sure how Kamara was red carded and other players were not.
Hand in the face.
But running in two handed in the chest is fine, slight hand on the face is red card? He didn't punch, or anything, yet the 33 player who he touched ran into Martinez with both hands pushing right in front of the ref, pushed Moreno, pushed out again at Moreno, then pushed out at Kamara in the face as well. Yellow card.
Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2023, 04:53:50 PM
So does he “rest” for 1 or 3 matches?I'm not sure how Kamara was red carded and other players were not.
Hand in the face.
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 04:54:37 PM
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 17, 2023, 04:55:10 PM
Said before the game these lot are dirty bar stewards and so it panned out. Ben Mee should be arrested the ******
If he connected properly he would of broken Baileys leg, absolute scumbag. Feck him and them.
On Kamara, you cant do what he did, but the twat he did it to (I think it was him) took a swing at the back of Morenos head, missed thankfully the cowardly twat.
Anyway, although not brilliant we were the only team trying to play football, still I doubt Unai will be happy with our lack of discipline not just the sending off and Martinez’s role, but the fact we were a little bit backs to the wall.
Still we haven’t won there since the 1940s, so a brilliant comeback.
Thought Kamara was possibly our best player today and will be a loss over the next three games.
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 04:56:51 PM
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 04:57:09 PM
1/5 on to be top of the league friday night.
As much as I want us to win the game 6-0 without much stress, it would be fucking hilarious if we won it in the last minute of injury time with goal line technology failing as their equalizer isn’t confirmed. Their useless twat fans crying for eternity claiming that goal not being given won us the title.
Post by: SaddVillan on December 17, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
1953 in case you're wondering.
Feb 4th 1953
FA Cup 4th round replay
Brentford 1-2 Villa
Post by: passport1 on December 17, 2023, 04:58:19 PM
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2023, 04:59:37 PM
Post by: curiousorange on December 17, 2023, 05:00:43 PM
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 17, 2023, 05:00:48 PM
Torres picked up a knock, according to UE.he walked off a little gingerly
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 05:00:52 PM
Post by: Villafirst on December 17, 2023, 05:01:29 PM
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 17, 2023, 05:01:45 PM
Some Blues supporting twat pretending to be a villa fan text into the BBC saying our Bubble had burst and we will soon fall down to where we belong. Surprisingly not signed off as Fred.
Surprised they knew how to use a mobile phone
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 05:06:04 PM
Torres picked up a knock, according to UE.I reckon he hurt himself when he kicked the ground after putting himself under pressure
Post by: Beard82 on December 17, 2023, 05:06:08 PM
You know our discipline went out the window when even Emery got booked.I assume he got booked for going onto the pitch. He didn't do anything wrong - was just trying to calm down the situation so I assume it was a technicality
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2023, 05:07:36 PM
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on December 17, 2023, 05:08:49 PM
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Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2023, 05:10:20 PM
I think Diaby is just having a hard time with the limited space he’s getting in the PL. Opposing teams know to close him down or the space behind him. We need to find a way to get him the ball faster and in areas where he can run at the defenders. His future form is as much down to tactics as his own ability to learn and develop.As always teams do work out players so to better he needs to overcome that and develop his game. He’s still one of our finest.
Post by: rougegorge on December 17, 2023, 05:11:40 PM
Norgaard started it all off and then after Mee, they parked the bus and just fouled even more.
I think we managed to get 4 cards from 6 fouls.
Konsa, Durán, Martínez and Kamara all got theirs for off field stuff.
Zaniolo and Durán playing catch over Maupay's head was mildly amusing, but served to ratchet up the atmosphere.
Emi was partly responsible for Kamara's red. I have no idea why he was even bothering with Maupay.
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on December 17, 2023, 05:15:33 PM
Edit - failed to quote the question about did Frank get booked ...yes he did !
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 17, 2023, 05:16:09 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 05:17:32 PM
I think Diaby is just having a hard time with the limited space he’s getting in the PL. Opposing teams know to close him down or the space behind him. We need to find a way to get him the ball faster and in areas where he can run at the defenders. His future form is as much down to tactics as his own ability to learn and develop.As always teams do work out players so to better he needs to overcome that and develop his game. He’s still one of our finest.
If his presence is responsible for Bailey's upturn in form then he was still a brilliant signing. He can take all the time he needs.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
Did Frank get booked when he had a thrombo against McPhee?He was remonstrating at Emerys number two , the Spaniard
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 17, 2023, 05:23:13 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1736428766723822039
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2023, 05:24:29 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/ollie-watkins-aston-villa.134143/page-25
Apparently he’s spoilt his legacy and has forgotten his roots. Funny I’ve never heard anyone in Exeter say a bad word about him.
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2023, 05:24:43 PM
Before the game I said that Brentford weren't known for being physical, but they were today.
Norgaard started it all off and then after Mee, they parked the bus and just fouled even more.
I think we managed to get 4 cards from 6 fouls.
Konsa, Durán, Martínez and Kamara all got theirs for off field stuff.
Zaniolo and Durán playing catch over Maupay's head was mildly amusing, but served to ratchet up the atmosphere.
Emi was partly responsible for Kamara's red. I have no idea why he was even bothering with Maupay.
I think Bailey was booked as well for what looked like a fair challenge.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 17, 2023, 05:27:05 PM
Ollie
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1736428766723822039
TOP MAN !
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 05:27:54 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/ollie-watkins-aston-villa.134143/page-25
Pretty ironic that Watkins should grow up because he shouldn't get upset over one fan having a go all game, by fans calling him all sorts of names because he rubbed it in the one fans face.
Post by: Pete3206 on December 17, 2023, 05:29:20 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/ollie-watkins-aston-villa.134143/page-25
Apparently he’s spoilt his legacy and has forgotten his roots. Funny I’ve never heard anyone in Exeter say a bad word about him.
There's no law against celebrating against your old club. The Brentford player who steamed into Konsa was the guilty party for me.
Anyway, fuck Brentford. Horrible, snidey little twats from the Manager to cretins like Mee and Maupay.
Post by: Goldenballs on December 17, 2023, 05:29:27 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/ollie-watkins-aston-villa.134143/page-25
Waaa! What a bunch of fannies 😂
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 05:30:31 PM
OllieStopped short of saying what sort of abuse he was getting but sounds like it was well OTT
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1736428766723822039
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 17, 2023, 05:30:42 PM
Great result given our record over the last half century.
Post by: Paul.S on December 17, 2023, 05:30:56 PM
Ollie
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1736428766723822039
Another big mouth hiding in the crowd. I’m sure his mommy told him if you give it out you have to be prepared to take it.
Post by: Nev on December 17, 2023, 05:31:01 PM
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 05:31:50 PM
Post by: darren woolley on December 17, 2023, 05:34:50 PM
Post by: andyh on December 17, 2023, 05:35:46 PM
I’m sure he’ll cope.
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 05:36:14 PM
Quote
"Of course we are happy with the result and how we recovered. I'm not happy with our behaviour. I want to analyse with the players.
"It's not my spirit. We try to respect everything but when they are on the pitch, they are excited and some nerves were showing. Things can happen like that, but I want to work on it.
"The red card of [Boubacar] Kamara and some individual behaviour in my team, I don't want them to do it.
"My message is respect everything, respect the opponent, respect ourselves, respect the referee. Today we lost a bit of our mind in some behaviours. I want to focus on the recovery and try to control it. We have to continue creating and building our team.
"Winning the match and coming back was amazing but there's still work to do with how to handle situations after the goal. I don't really want these situations in my team."
Maybe he'll say more behind closed doors but I like how he doesn't blame the other team or get dragged into finger pointing. That's not how he wants his team reacting to things, and he'll address that with them.
Post by: The Edge on December 17, 2023, 05:36:20 PM
Post by: Richard E on December 17, 2023, 05:37:16 PM
According to that Brentford forum, Ollie has now ruined his legacy and reputation at Brentford.Oh no! All 15 of their supporters now hate him!
I’m sure he’ll cope.
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on December 17, 2023, 05:37:25 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/ollie-watkins-aston-villa.134143/page-25
Apparently he’s spoilt his legacy and has forgotten his roots. Funny I’ve never heard anyone in Exeter say a bad word about him.
There's no law against celebrating against your old club. The Brentford player who steamed into Konsa was the guilty party for me.
Anyway, fuck Brentford. Horrible, snidey little twats from the Manager to cretins like Mee and Maupay.
This
Post by: Bad English on December 17, 2023, 05:38:52 PM
And I have come to the conclusion that I don't care and 3 points will do nicely ta! So eat shit motherfuckers!
Post by: curiousorange on December 17, 2023, 05:39:09 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 05:39:30 PM
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"At the end some moments, some behaviour, of us as well, I'm going to manage our behaviour and take control of it. I will analyse it with our players because it was not normal.
"We were a bit excited and we needed control of ourselves. When you are reacting like that, other players and the other opponent is maybe not being in good behaviour like the match needed.
"I'm going to manage everything we did that was not good and our mistakes in our behaviour.
"Maybe it's not the best for football and for us but always we have very good behaviour with the referees, always respect their decisions, VAR and I will keep doing the same.
"The players are reacting to circumstances from the opponent or from supporters and we are human but we have to build the team and in difficult moments we can control our mind and be under control."
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 17, 2023, 05:41:35 PM
Did Frank get booked when he had a thrombo against McPhee?He was remonstrating at Emerys number two , the Spaniard
Well if he stayed in his box he wouldn’t hear our coach , the gurning little Ferret
Post by: danno on December 17, 2023, 05:46:27 PM
According to that Brentford forum, Ollie has now ruined his legacy and reputation at Brentford.
I’m sure he’ll cope.
In twenty years he will be remembered by supporters at large as a Villa player. If anything he’s writing his legacy right now.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 17, 2023, 06:00:53 PM
Midfield not great either. SJM playing in the centre didn't really get going. Kamaras okay but we all know he can do better. In fact to save time, that pretty much sums up the performance. We can play so much better than that and we'll need to if we have any real ambitions of qualifying for the CL.
Torres my MOTM in the worst pantomime I've seen since the first and only one I've witnessed, I think at the Alex many moons ago.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 06:03:00 PM
They were down to 10 men. We needed to won. Swit he'd a defender for an attackerI missed the game! Why did Torres go off? Tactical? Anyway, another win which is brilliant.
I think he’d taken a knock, hope he’s ok.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 06:04:29 PM
Torres picked up a knock, according to UE.
Yep I think it was that challenge from Wissa. I hope he’s ok, he’s vital to the quality of our play.
Post by: Grande Pablo on December 17, 2023, 06:05:29 PM
Great win, but some crazy behaviour by some of our players which could be costly over the holiday period thanks to suspensions.
Sky would surely pick the reverse fixture purely for the drama!
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 17, 2023, 06:06:15 PM
According to that Brentford forum, Ollie has now ruined his legacy and reputation at Brentford.And moaning about our players rolling around, well you done it for many years,we thought it's time we join the party
I’m sure he’ll cope.
Post by: murgsy on December 17, 2023, 06:08:51 PM
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2023, 06:11:42 PM
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
It's not going to be all smooth sailing and easy, magnificently played-out victories, it just doesn't work that way. What we've shown in the last few league games is that we can win in a number of different ways. If anything, that's more impressive than sailing to routine wins week after week.
I think it's a fair description to say we're not as obviously impressive away as we are at home, but worth remembering - we've won 15 consecutive home league games, it's not surprising we're not at that level away from home. Then there's the fact that despite said not-so-good away from home status, we've still taken 7 points from the last 9 away from home.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 06:13:09 PM
Post by: baddowvillans on December 17, 2023, 06:17:09 PM
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 06:19:33 PM
Villa issue a statement re the Watkins incident.
Which makes absolute sense if you look how Ollie was targeting his frustrations.
Post by: Luffbralion on December 17, 2023, 06:20:37 PM
Not just the richly deserved sending off for Mee but also Unai's substitutions changed the game. (I thought Zaniolo did a fine job by getting stuck in).
What a time to be a Villa fan. Mind you, at half time I had a look at X (formerly Twitter) only to find out that apparently Cash, Moreno and Ramsey are all a waste of space. Do these people not remember the likes of Bowery, Tonev and Bacuna "representing" us in the Premier League?
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on December 17, 2023, 06:21:19 PM
Personally I’m in shock that Ollie celebrated his goal, what an arsehole, won’t he think of the fans.
This made me laugh from the Gryffindor Park Forum:
‘So gutted & surprised & disappointed with Ollie. Thought he was such a top bloke. Pulled the wool over my eyes. I will never trust another man. 😢’
Great to get the win. Ftff.
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 06:24:02 PM
Villa issue a statement re the Watkins incident.
Anyone care to share it?
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 06:25:28 PM
Villa issue a statement re the Watkins incident.
Anyone care to share it?
(https://i.ibb.co/8YDZskg/IMG-1366.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8YDZskg)
Post by: Matt C on December 17, 2023, 06:26:09 PM
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 06:28:07 PM
Must be serious if we're asking for it to be investigated.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 17, 2023, 06:28:43 PM
neanderthals (as I so often was when standing in the away end).
I guess this is the flipside of that. If you spend the entire game calling someone a ******, you really have no defence when that person shoves it right back up you, you ******!
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 06:31:52 PM
Some of the comments on the Brentford forum...well, they probably haven't been watching football for too long. I used to live in the area, and always liked them as a club and a fanbase because when I went there I wasn't confronted by pissed-up
neanderthals (as I so often was when standing in the away end).
I guess this is the flipside of that. If you spend the entire game calling someone a ******, you really have no defence when that person shoves it right back up you, you ******!
Sounds like it was worse then that as I'm sure Watkins would have heard that previously. I wonder if he was wishing for ollie's kids to die or something as horrible being as no one has let on it was racial.
Post by: Proposition Joe on December 17, 2023, 06:34:25 PM
Winning while being behind at HT
Winning away at Brentford
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on December 17, 2023, 06:38:48 PM
What a prick, amongst countless pricks, that Collins is for them.
Came on, fouled , dived, cheated, puffed out his chest.
Horrible
Agree. I was watching him after the melee when Watkins scored. He kept saying to the ref, it was Zaniolo, Zaniolo. I thought oh no he could be in trouble with VAR, he did absolutely nothing.
Collins also went down easy in the box trying to cheat a penalty and was moaning at the ref at the final whistle. He’s definitely gone up in the c#*• league.
Post by: wince on December 17, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 17, 2023, 06:45:52 PM
Post by: RichardBatchelor on December 17, 2023, 06:46:59 PM
Right now I'll take an ugly win. Three important points. There should be an investigation into a possible betting scandal with both Cash and Diaby despite finding the space refusing to cross the ball. Fortunately Bailey came on and within a few minutes gets a cross over and we score. Other than that I thought be were poor up front. Watkins showed little mobility across their defence when there were openings available, JJ is well off the pace, far more than I imagined or had hoped and Diaby's only contribution seemed to pass the ball back to Cash. He was that poor he reminded me of AEG and his passes back to Targett.
Midfield not great either. SJM playing in the centre didn't really get going. Kamaras okay but we all know he can do better. In fact to save time, that pretty much sums up the performance. We can play so much better than that and we'll need to if we have any real ambitions of qualifying for the CL.
Torres my MOTM in the worst pantomime I've seen since the first and only one I've witnessed, I think at the Alex many moons ago.
McGinn was excellent, not sure we were watching the same game.
Post by: Bad English on December 17, 2023, 06:47:50 PM
They are arguably West Londons fourth biggest club, show a bit of respect.Ray Liotta laughing in the bar with Joe Pesci gif.
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 17, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 17, 2023, 06:48:31 PM
They are arguably West Londons fourth biggest club, show a bit of respect.Ray Liotta laughing in the bar with Joe Pesci gif.
:-)
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on December 17, 2023, 06:48:55 PM
Diaby was disappointing but there were a number of times when he was drifting wide to receive the ball in space and it just got recycled back inside, it’d be nice if the ball was played in front of him occasionally just to vary our play a bit.
Struggled to create any real chances in the second half but kept plugging away and got the job done against 10 men.
How the ref never booked their player for that blatant shirt pull on Torres and why he took so long to change the yellow to a red card is baffling.
Thought McGinn, Kamara, Carlos and Torres were good.
Commentator mentioned on my stream that Torres is the player who has carried the ball the most in the whole premier league, he really is integral to how we play and he’s having a superb season.
Post by: CT Villan on December 17, 2023, 06:49:58 PM
Ramsey and Moreno clearly need game time to get back to their previous levels and Cash should never play on the right wing again. The handbags at the end was regrettable, but I can see why it happened. Maupay is a repulsive human being without a single redeeming feature.
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 17, 2023, 06:50:23 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 06:51:00 PM
Post by: The Edge on December 17, 2023, 06:53:12 PM
I don’t even know or care where Brentford is. Fuck them. Up the villa!It's by the M4 in West London. Pretty non description place. The football club reflects It's surroundings. Fuck em.
Post by: Somniloquism on December 17, 2023, 06:53:33 PM
Saw someone mention we've won 25 Premier League games in 2023, our best calendar year in our entire history, and have 81 points in the same year, second only to Man City, but we can't be too far behind them.
Still behind Citeh but second on 81 points with a potential 9 more at stake I think.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/jahrestabelle/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2023
Post by: SaddVillan on December 17, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
The Athletic's view of things:
OLLIE WATKINS' CELEBRATION OF ASTON VILLA WINNER AT BRENTFORD AIMED AT SUPPORTER WHO INSULTED HIS FAMILY
Ollie Watkins’ pointed celebration after scoring the winner in Aston Villa’s win at Brentford was directed at one home supporter who insulted his family.
Watkins said his celebration was directed at someone who was “abusing” him throughout the match at the Gtech Community Stadium.
The 27-year-old joined Villa from Brentford in the summer of 2020, having spent three successful seasons with the London club in the Championship.
Watkins scored a header from a corner in the 85th minute, with his momentum taking him into the goal. The striker was standing in the net in front of the West Stand and seemingly started pointing directly at one fan before putting his hands on his hips and shouting.
Saman Ghoddos tried to pull Watkins away which prompted Konsa to protect his Villa team-mate. Konsa started grappling with Ghoddos and then Mathias ‘Zanka’ Jorgensen got involved. Within seconds, players from both teams were pushing and shoving each other around the six-yard box. Referee David Coote booked Konsa, Ghoddos, Jhon Duran and Brentford’s Vitaly Janelt.
It was far from the game’s only incident, with Brentford’s Ben Mee and Villa’s Boubacar Kamara both shown red cards, a further 10 players shown yellow cards and both head coaches booked.
WHAT DID WATKINS SAY?
“It was a bit of a feisty game, it all spurred from my celebration but that’s not down to a lack of respect for the fans,” Watkins said to Sky Sports.
“I love the club, the players and staff, I’ve not got a bad word to say against them. But there was one person who was abusing me all game, the celebration wasn’t to anyone else but it was directed directly at him.
“(Thomas Frank) asked me why I had celebrated like that — I’m still on texting terms with him — but it’s because of that reason.
“I feel like I’ve done so much for the club and they’ve done so much for me, football’s football and you can have a bit of banter but not when it’s personal.
“If the club don’t believe me it’s up to them — but I’ve explained it to Thomas and he knows I wouldn’t do that for no reason. It agitated me and that’s what happened.”
Villa, meanwhile, have called for the authorities to investigate Watkins’ allegation. A club statement read: “Aston Villa FC wants to express its support for Ollie Watkins and with the utmost respect for the big majority of Brentford fans and for the club, we ask the authorities to investigate this incident to find this individual. Zero tolerance to abuse in football.”
The Athletic has asked Brentford whether it will be investigating the alleged abuse of Watkins.
HOW HAS WATKINS BEEN RECEIVED IN HIS PREVIOUS TRIPS BACK TO BRENTFORD?
In the past when he has returned to play against Brentford, there has been a mutual respect and affection between the striker and the supporters.
But when play restarted, Brentford fans started loudly booing Watkins every time he touched the ball. The England international was clearly rattled by the incident as a few minutes later, he was warned by referee Coote for pushing over Nathan Collins as Brentford prepared to take a corner.
At full time, Watkins spoke to his former coach Frank before immediately heading down the tunnel.
WHAT ELSE HAPPENED IN THE GAME?
A late incident involving Villa goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez and Brentford striker Neal Maupay led to a host of bookings and Kamara’s red card.
Maupay went to the ground late on as Martinez prepared to take a free kick in the Villa half. Martinez then picked Maupay up by his shirt, leading to the scuffle which saw Kamara sent off for raising his hands to the face of Brentford’s Yegor Yarmolyuk.
Martinez and Yarmolyuk were also booked for their roles in the incident, with Villa head coach Unai Emery also shown a yellow card.
Villa came from behind to win, with Brentford going ahead through Keane Lewis-Potter in the first half. Defender Mee was then sent off for a challenge on Leon Bailey in the 71st minute following a VAR check. Frank was booked for his protestation of Mee’s yellow card being upgraded to a red.
Alex Moreno equalised for Villa just six minutes later, with Watkins’ winner coming in the final minutes of regulation time.
WHAT AT DID THE MANAGERS SAY?
Brentford boss Frank said that his players “lacked class” at the end of the match.
“The game that we love won’t be discussed in your questions today,” Frank added. “I don’t like that.
“Ollie and I went to each other after the game and said there was a situation. He is a top player with top integrity. I couldn’t understand why fans were booing him.”
Asked if he had spoken to Watkins following the incident, Emery replied: “No. I didn’t know which player scored. I thought it was Konsa. I don’t know now. I can explain everything when I watch it and overall, I can do the analysis, but not deeply.”
Emery added: “I don’t know exactly (what happened). I want to analyse the match in 90 minutes. Then I will analyse the circumstances that happened at the end of the match with Ollie but I don’t know what exactly happened with him. And then with Emiliano, Jhon Duran and Nicolo Zaniolo.
“Always our behaviour has been fantastic. Maybe today it was not good and I want to explain to the players as well about how we can react when we are under pressure. In some circumstances, maybe a little bit of provocation for them. But I don’t want this behaviour.”
Emery was also asked about the behaviour of Martinez in that late incident, as well as his entering the pitch and earning a caution from Coote. He said: “The behaviour was not very good. And of course, the reaction of Emiliano Martinez was not very good as well. I am going to speak with Emi.
“But the most important for Emi is that he played very well — he did a very fantastic match. That is the most important. Then it is to try and control in different circumstances on the pitch and in different moments, we needed to be clever in our mind, try to control it.
“When I came on the pitch I was trying to keep calm with the players. I received a yellow card for it but I tried to control the players and Emiliano was a little bit upset and I tried to keep calm.”
Asked if Kamara deserved his red card, Emery said: “I don’t know. I didn’t see the action but with VAR, if he received a red card it is because VAR is the big eye for everybody.”
Post by: wince on December 17, 2023, 06:59:32 PM
They are arguably West Londons fourth biggest club, show a bit of respect.Go back to your Christmas vacation……😂
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 17, 2023, 07:00:28 PM
I love wins like that, we ain't taking no shit from nobody, we'll do it anyway you like.
Up the fucking Villa.
Yep, that win gave me more satisfaction than beating Arsenal.
To get top 4 or even....(whispers very quietly) win leagues...you need to show bottle and mentality to scrap it out and win games from behind. We did that superbly in last 20 minutes.
Brentford weren't interested in a football match after Mee's annual assault on one of our players and were just winding up our players to get one sent off. Shame Kamara took the bait and he'll be a miss at Old Trafford for sure.
Chance to go top of the league this deep in a season since perhaps 2001? What an atmosphere it's going to be on Friday, can't wait.
Post by: Matt C on December 17, 2023, 07:03:40 PM
Post by: AV82EC on December 17, 2023, 07:17:21 PM
Great day out, fantastic result, fully deserved.
Post by: dave shelley on December 17, 2023, 07:22:14 PM
No comment from me on Ollie as I don't know what was said by either of them.
One thing I think Villa can look forward to is a fine for failing to control their players.
I wish to join the Emery love club.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 07:22:38 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/xFYXsWT/IMG-1369.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFYXsWT)
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on December 17, 2023, 07:22:38 PM
Post by: Chap on December 17, 2023, 07:26:55 PM
I’m now a believing would you bet against us sort of guy!
Post by: Baldy on December 17, 2023, 07:50:22 PM
Like watching the glory days of Man Utd in the Roy Keane era. Great camaraderie.
Well deserved three points.
Well done lads.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 07:57:14 PM
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2023, 08:08:41 PM
Without Dougie and Tielemans, we missed that final ball to break them down.
Ben Mee's tackle was abysmal and looked a red in real time, with the referee a yard or two away. Maupay is an absolute disgrace. A woeful, nothing player, devoid of any Premier League quality, who came on to dive, rile up and cause aggro looking for a percentage set piece. Felt he went down so easy and obviously with Konsa.
In fact a special word for the Wimbledon of 2023; Brentford play utter filth. Long ball, direct, overly physical- their goal scorer with the most obvious shirt pull you'll see avoiding a booking for example. Persistent fouling, leaving a foot in. Awful team.
Said before the game that this was the sort of game a title winner would come and get three points from. Moreno switched off for the goal, but by and large played well and scored a nice header. Diego stoo up well physically too.
Just a great win. Shame about Kamara. We shouldnt have got drawn into Maupay and their bollocks. Fuck Brentford.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 17, 2023, 08:22:02 PM
Weird thing about Ben Mee is whenever I’ve heard him interviewed he sounds quite thoughtful and intelligent, but on the pitch he’s a thug. Saying that I know a few people like that in local 6-a-side, as soon as they cross the line they completely change, it’s quite odd.
I noticed he is getting a bit of TV media work lately and all the time I watch him talk , I just think thug , killed a players career .
Post by: Astnor on December 17, 2023, 08:26:03 PM
Post by: Steve67 on December 17, 2023, 08:26:36 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 08:28:04 PM
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 17, 2023, 08:51:30 PM
Frank didn’t think it was a red card.
Post by: LeonW on December 17, 2023, 09:05:30 PM
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 17, 2023, 09:07:16 PM
McGinn was excellent, not sure we were watching the same game.
Compared to his recent world class standards, controlling everything, breaking forward etc today he was not as impactful obviously not helped by playing more centrally to compensate for Dougie. A 7/10 performance, still the best from our midfield but we and SJM weren't at his best today.
Post by: john2710 on December 17, 2023, 09:08:15 PM
We dominated the game, were waistful with the chances we created & gifted them a goal. There were large spells of the game where they had all 11 in or around their own box. We need to take it as a compliment because that's how shit teams play against top sides.
Special mention to the ref who is without doubt the weakest / easiest to bully in the league. He had zero control over anything that went on today.
Post by: LukeJames on December 17, 2023, 09:12:42 PM
They should have had two penalties, The Mee red card was wrong. What the fuck is it with London clubs?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 17, 2023, 09:16:42 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/brentford-1-lewis-potter-aston-villa-2-mee-red-card.140069/page-9
They should have had two penalties, The Mee red card was wrong. What the fuck is it with London clubs?
Pathetic pricks
Post by: Bad English on December 17, 2023, 09:17:13 PM
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2023, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: RichardBatchelor on December 17, 2023, 09:23:24 PM
Weird thing about Ben Mee is whenever I’ve heard him interviewed he sounds quite thoughtful and intelligent, but on the pitch he’s a thug. Saying that I know a few people like that in local 6-a-side, as soon as they cross the line they completely change, it’s quite odd.
Is he actually a thug or just really, really shit at timing tackles? The upshot is the same.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 09:24:08 PM
without being pedantic it's the A4 , basically a collection of car showrooms , their poxy ground and way too many hipstersI don’t even know or care where Brentford is. Fuck them. Up the villa!It's by the M4 in West London. Pretty non description place. The football club reflects It's surroundings. Fuck em.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 09:25:04 PM
100% thug. Did Wesley, broke Gomez leg. The ****** needs dealing withWeird thing about Ben Mee is whenever I’ve heard him interviewed he sounds quite thoughtful and intelligent, but on the pitch he’s a thug. Saying that I know a few people like that in local 6-a-side, as soon as they cross the line they completely change, it’s quite odd.
Is he actually a thug or just really, really shit at timing tackles? The upshot is the same.
Post by: Louzie0 on December 17, 2023, 09:26:26 PM
‘ I travelled to the game with my friend a Villa fan, I explained to him that he’s a lovely bloke but his team is scummy…’
Post by: Goldenballs on December 17, 2023, 09:28:23 PM
Weird thing about Ben Mee is whenever I’ve heard him interviewed he sounds quite thoughtful and intelligent, but on the pitch he’s a thug. Saying that I know a few people like that in local 6-a-side, as soon as they cross the line they completely change, it’s quite odd.
Is he actually a thug or just really, really shit at timing tackles? The upshot is the same.
100% thug. He slowed down just enough to let Wes get the ball first so he could clatter him. I don't wish injury on anyone but if the same happens to him I wouldn't feel bad for the guy.
Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2023, 09:31:44 PM
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 09:32:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67743379
Frank didn’t think it was a red card.
That commentator/interviewer is a massive, massive twat, Basically gives his opinion to Frank that as the ref only gave Mee a yellow on the pitch, VAR shouldn't be refereeing the game. Firstly, that's the entire point you prick, picking up things the ref didn't see in the heat of the game. But secondly, who asked for your opinion anyway twatty bollocks, stick to asking the questions. He did exactly the same thing last week with Arteta, basically sticking his tongue up Arteta's arse saying that the Luiz incident was a penalty etc. At the start of the interview with Frank: "Thanks for doing this as I know it's a difficult one tonight." What, the interview he's contractually obliged to do as part of the Premier League rules, you massive div? Wanker.
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2023, 09:33:30 PM
Post by: Risso on December 17, 2023, 09:36:14 PM
How their manager could moan at that red card is ridiculous. Maybe he'll watch it back and change his mind, but it was a shocker.
Absolutely nailed on red card. Feet off the floor, out of control, studs up, at shin height. It was lucky for Bailey that he didn't catch him full in the middle of the leg because that would have been a serious injury.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 17, 2023, 09:48:38 PM
Post by: dave shelley on December 17, 2023, 09:48:57 PM
No one gives a f*** what you take from people - and that includes how many cocks you suck for coins behind the Holte End.
I think the real reason he's so upset is that he's probably the only one's cock the Villa fan refused to suck.
Post by: stevo_st on December 17, 2023, 09:50:36 PM
Exactly the sort of dangerous challenge that players need to be protected from.
Only debate would be why the ref needed VAR to help him when he had a good view.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 09:51:54 PM
watch it at full speed its horrific , proper Sunday morning pissed up left back challengeHow their manager could moan at that red card is ridiculous. Maybe he'll watch it back and change his mind, but it was a shocker.
Absolutely nailed on red card. Feet off the floor, out of control, studs up, at shin height. It was lucky for Bailey that he didn't catch him full in the middle of the leg because that would have been a serious injury.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 09:54:23 PM
Post by: Nev on December 17, 2023, 09:57:42 PM
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 17, 2023, 09:59:44 PM
How their manager could moan at that red card is ridiculous. Maybe he'll watch it back and change his mind, but it was a shocker.
I had a look on Small Heath Alliance and even they thought it was a blatant red card.
Post by: TonyD on December 17, 2023, 09:59:47 PM
What a bloody game to miss! Just read this thread.
Sounded feisty.
Another 3 points. The Villa juggernaut has no brakes.
But let’s not us get too big headed and cocky. This juggernaut still has a way to go.
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 17, 2023, 10:01:47 PM
What we are going to see a lot of new found jealousy now and moving forward is a lot of fans just losing their minds over our success and status. There are the fans of the clubs threatened by us who will have removed us from cute and cuddly Aston Villa “great to see a big club doing well again” to absolute wankers who are a threat to the status quo. And then there will be the clubs we used to hang out with. The shit on the bottom of your shoes. We used to be part of that club. Those fans are not only going nuts about our elevation beyond their station, but even more mad at their own situation. Because how can “they, Villa” get a manager like Emery, and how can “they”, tramps like us 12 months ago, now be challenging for the title. All while “we” remain tramps. It’s doing their heads in with every new win, we separate ourselves from the life that was, to the life that will be.Couldn't have put it better myself
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 17, 2023, 10:04:14 PM
The posh Wimbledon fans can get stretched, whiny twats. Their team were constantly niggling and leaving a foot in every time they tackled, and they were fortunate the gormless referee just let them get away with it. He seemed determined to "let the game flow", but too thick to understand that that doesn't mean letting obvious fouls go unpunished.
I agree they should have had a pen for the McGinn grapple, but we should also have had one for the attempt to decapitate Kamara, so they can't even complain about that.
Basically, fuck off Frank, and wash your fucking hair.
Post by: VillaTim on December 17, 2023, 10:14:48 PM
Richard Keys accusing Ollie of incitement, the fucking bitter Coventry ******.Which bird is he commentating on some ex-player hanging out the back of this weekend. Smarmy twat
Post by: Legion on December 17, 2023, 10:24:28 PM
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2023, 10:24:45 PM
Post by: Legion on December 17, 2023, 10:27:21 PM
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.
Post by: Villan For Life on December 17, 2023, 10:39:32 PM
Can't be bothered to read other opinions about us. We're Aston Villa:
“Villa have been a great club, are still a great club, and always will be a great club.” - Frederick Rinder, 1936.
Sheer poetry
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on December 17, 2023, 10:45:27 PM
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2023, 10:47:28 PM
Post by: Villan For Life on December 17, 2023, 10:51:27 PM
Just started watching MOTD. Where does Proctor play who was on our bench?
Keeper
Post by: Small Rodent on December 17, 2023, 10:53:50 PM
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on December 17, 2023, 10:58:19 PM
Just started watching MOTD. Where does Proctor play who was on our bench?
Keeper
Cheers. I’ve never heard of him.
Post by: Ian. on December 17, 2023, 10:58:48 PM
Just started watching MOTD. Where does Proctor play who was on our bench?
I’d rather have Proctor on the bench than Maupay.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 10:59:48 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/xFYXsWT/IMG-1369.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFYXsWT)
Post by: tomd2103 on December 17, 2023, 11:07:38 PM
I don't think it would be frivolous to appeal the card for Kamara. He didn't do a lot wrong. Great win.
Just seen it on MOTD and it was a very soft red card, especially as there seemed to be a few players who did similar.
Would think Unai Emery would have been furious that players got sucked in to that kind of nonsense with a wind up merchant like Maupay when we were winning and we've now probably lost a key player for 3 important games.
Post by: Monty on December 17, 2023, 11:21:18 PM
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Post by: clash city rocker on December 17, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 17, 2023, 11:34:53 PM
Just started watching MOTD. Where does Proctor play who was on our bench?
Keeper
Cheers. I’ve never heard of him.
He's only 16. I'd be interested to know why we had him on the bench over so many older players, there's even several other keepers we could have gone with. Is he extremely talented, or is it because his birthday is in a few days and Emery was feeling generous?
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2023, 11:52:03 PM
https://x.com/avfcthereligion/status/1736448890423988680?s=46
Post by: tomd2103 on December 18, 2023, 12:19:09 AM
I don't know if I'm enjoying my football more or less. For far to many tears we have been...well average at best. Now after 17 games we are 1 point off top. Perhaps it's the villa in me as I'm just waiting for it to implode...if we are still in this position come April I will be a fucking nervous wreck. Unai you are a Saint but you increasing my stress levels.
Nah, these last couple of months have been great. After a decade or so of worrying about what's going on at the bottom of the league, this has been a bit special . Now, if we're still in this position come April then the nerves will really kick in, but until then just enjoy the ride.
Post by: Smirker on December 18, 2023, 12:23:28 AM
Post by: Lsvilla on December 18, 2023, 12:37:09 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2023, 12:54:58 AM
What I really like is the last 3 wins have all been different. Man City was just outclassing them all game, Arsenal was digging out a backs to the wall, today was a niggly game where we had to be patient and also stand up for ourselves. Outcome, 9 points out of 9.
Post by: Matt C on December 18, 2023, 01:59:44 AM
I'm loving it, if you can't enjoy Villa games this past 12 months you're never going to enjoy them.
What I really like is the last 3 wins have all been different. Man City was just outclassing them all game, Arsenal was digging out a backs to the wall, today was a niggly game where we had to be patient and also stand up for ourselves. Outcome, 9 points out of 9.
All of this. Soak it in.
We’re third (aka joint 2nd) in the league having won 15 on the bounce at home. Club record.
25 Premier League wins in a calendar year. Club record.
Most successful calendar year ever. Club record.
When we go ahead, we win. Only team in the league to do so.
38 points from 17 Premier League games so far this season, the same number of points earned in the whole of 2011/2012, 2013/2014, and 2014/2015, three more than 2019/2020 (35) and twenty-one more points than 2015/2016 (17)
It’s barely 12 months ago I was thinking we’re getting relegated.
I’m a believer, mate.
Post by: geolex on December 18, 2023, 06:25:51 AM
How their manager could moan at that red card is ridiculous. Maybe he'll watch it back and change his mind, but it was a shocker.
He can always appeal the decision , though i doubt he will
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 18, 2023, 07:50:07 AM
I'm loving it, if you can't enjoy Villa games this past 12 months you're never going to enjoy them.
What I really like is the last 3 wins have all been different. Man City was just outclassing them all game, Arsenal was digging out a backs to the wall, today was a niggly game where we had to be patient and also stand up for ourselves. Outcome, 9 points out of 9.
Indeed, doesn’t mean there’s not tension and angst, but bloody hell this is great.
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 08:21:48 AM
I'm loving it, if you can't enjoy Villa games this past 12 months you're never going to enjoy them.
What I really like is the last 3 wins have all been different. Man City was just outclassing them all game, Arsenal was digging out a backs to the wall, today was a niggly game where we had to be patient and also stand up for ourselves. Outcome, 9 points out of 9.
Indeed, doesn’t mean there’s not tension and angst, but bloody hell this is great.
No team I've ever seen constantly steamrollers its way to victories. You have to sometimes dig out wins whoever you are. Would we really have it any other way?
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Post by: Risso on December 18, 2023, 08:49:47 AM
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Before the sending off, it felt a bit similar to Forest away. Most of the possession without ever really looking like scoring. Diaby had another off day, and Ramsey looked 'rusty' to be kind to the lad. Ollie was working hard as ever without getting any decent service and Cash was ineffective out wide. The defence was sound though, and Torres played very well, as did Kamara and McGinn. Bailey was great when he came on and changed the game again.
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 08:52:27 AM
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 08:57:12 AM
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Before the sending off, it felt a bit similar to Forest away. Most of the possession without ever really looking like scoring. Diaby had another off day, and Ramsey looked 'rusty' to be kind to the lad. Ollie was working hard as ever without getting any decent service and Cash was ineffective out wide. The defence was sound though, and Torres played very well, as did Kamara and McGinn. Bailey was great when he came on and changed the game again.
Even the highlights show Cash getting skinned at least twice. He's a serviceable full back but that is really about it. If we only strengthen one position next month I'd like it to be that
Bailey definitely feels most effective coming on as a game changing sub
Post by: brontebilly on December 18, 2023, 08:57:47 AM
Post by: LukeJames on December 18, 2023, 09:02:25 AM
Did Moreno do enough to put Digne under pressure for his spot? Asleep for their goal but made up for it with the equaliser.
Going forward I think he's brilliant, I don't think Digne scores that goal or gets in the positions Moreno does in the first half (even though he should do better with his shots). He also has the burst of pace to get back into defensive positions but he was very poor for there goal, maybe due to a lack of match sharpness.
I think the shirt is probably still Digne's at the moment as he has been very consistent but what an option Moreno is to bring on when the opposition are tired.
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 09:05:15 AM
We are going to have a busy second half to the season, so it's a good position to be in - Worked ok for Saunders with Williams/Gibson.
Post by: The Edge on December 18, 2023, 09:05:46 AM
Thought the commentary and analysis on MotD was pretty much spot on.Overall yes I agree apart from one thing. Shearer and Wright invoked the ex players union rule of sticking up for one of their own but in this case one who definitely needs to be called out for the nasty pos he really is. Ben Mee. Wrighty said " that was his first sending off since 2013 he's not a bad lad" or words to that effect. No one on the panel of ex footballers called him out for what it is. He's dished out several serious injuries, our own Wesley and Liverpools Joe Gomez spring to mind. Brentford clearly decided to add a nasty streak to their game by bringing in Mee and Joe Gomez. Their floppy haired twat of a manager said it wasn't a sending off so he's in a minority of one and can go fuck himself. Brentford fans on their forum saying they can't wait to play us again so they can dish out some stick to Watkins, Konsa and Martinez. Bring it on.
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 09:23:45 AM
Richard Keys accusing Ollie of incitement, the fucking bitter Coventry ******.
Well... I mean it was that moment that kind of kicked the brawls off...I entirely get why Ollie did what he did, and it clearly aimed at that one home fan. But there's always going to be a siege mentality thing going on with things like this: a dig at one is a dig at all, fans and players. I imagine that at the start of the match OW would have thought to probably stick to the protocol of keeping celebrations muted if he should score against a former club. Perhaps it may have been better to just ditch that and celebrate the goal like he would have any other
Post by: sid1964 on December 18, 2023, 09:24:43 AM
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
Top of the form table - playing three poor teams over Christmas... the old Aston Villa would probably get 3 points!
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 09:29:29 AM
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 09:31:02 AM
Post by: AV84 on December 18, 2023, 09:32:08 AM
I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 09:34:04 AM
Seemed to pass the media by that we could well be top of the league on Friday - and if the Arsenal game is a draw then on top for Christmas... only been mentioned on here.
Top of the form table - playing three poor teams over Christmas... the old Aston Villa would probably get 3 points!
Oh yes... COME ON YOU DRAW!...
Post by: Nii Lamptey on December 18, 2023, 09:39:15 AM
Seemed to pass the media by that we could well be top of the league on Friday - and if the Arsenal game is a draw then on top for Christmas... only been mentioned on here.
Top of the form table - playing three poor teams over Christmas... the old Aston Villa would probably get 3 points!
Oh yes... COME ON YOU DRAW!...
We can potentially still go top even if Liverpool beat Arsenal - We just need to sink a cricket score against Sheffield Utd.
Post by: john e on December 18, 2023, 09:41:48 AM
So it’s good that we have now learnt to turn that advantage into a positive result this time
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on December 18, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
He got booked for trying to control his players and next we'll be fined for NOT controlling them!I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
Post by: Somniloquism on December 18, 2023, 09:50:01 AM
Thought the commentary and analysis on MotD was pretty much spot on.Overall yes I agree apart from one thing. Shearer and Wright invoked the ex players union rule of sticking up for one of their own but in this case one who definitely needs to be called out for the nasty pos he really is. Ben Mee. Wrighty said " that was his first sending off since 2013 he's not a bad lad" or words to that effect. No one on the panel of ex footballers called him out for what it is. He's dished out several serious injuries, our own Wesley and Liverpools Joe Gomez spring to mind. Brentford clearly decided to add a nasty streak to their game by bringing in Mee and Joe Gomez. Their floppy haired twat of a manager said it wasn't a sending off so he's in a minority of one and can go fuck himself. Brentford fans on their forum saying they can't wait to play us again so they can dish out some stick to Watkins, Konsa and Martinez. Bring it on.
They don't watch him every match so would only go on his disciplinary records. As today showed, he seems to have a dark streak that allows him to do dangerous tackles that only gets a yellow, if that. The scissor on Wesley wasn't even given as a foul. They both stated Bailey was lucky but no-one really picked up that Mee didn't need to make that challenge and any non-psycho would have just ensured he stopped the break by standing Bailey up or getting the other side of him. Instead he decided he needed to stop our most dangerous and in-form player by sending him home in an ambulance. Yep psycho behaviour.
Post by: The Edge on December 18, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
Edit: Mee and Neil Maupay. Lol.Thought the commentary and analysis on MotD was pretty much spot on.Overall yes I agree apart from one thing. Shearer and Wright invoked the ex players union rule of sticking up for one of their own but in this case one who definitely needs to be called out for the nasty pos he really is. Ben Mee. Wrighty said " that was his first sending off since 2013 he's not a bad lad" or words to that effect. No one on the panel of ex footballers called him out for what it is. He's dished out several serious injuries, our own Wesley and Liverpools Joe Gomez spring to mind. Brentford clearly decided to add a nasty streak to their game by bringing in Mee and Joe Gomez. Their floppy haired twat of a manager said it wasn't a sending off so he's in a minority of one and can go fuck himself. Brentford fans on their forum saying they can't wait to play us again so they can dish out some stick to Watkins, Konsa and Martinez. Bring it on.
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 10:01:53 AM
And sure, maybe we got a bit lucky, like we'd run out of ideas etc but you know what? Liverpool recently went to deepest darkest London, found themselves 1-0 down and looking laboured and leggy before a stupid red card turned the game in their favour. If you're a big boy, or have ambitions to be one, you win that game; if you're also-ran, you at best draw. Such is life.
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 10:21:39 AM
He got booked for trying to control his players and next we'll be fined for NOT controlling them!I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
I still think a booking for what he's trying to do is harsh. He's trying to help manage a bad situation, as would be anyone's instinct in such a situation
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 18, 2023, 10:24:13 AM
Seemed to pass the media by that we could well be top of the league on Friday - and if the Arsenal game is a draw then on top for Christmas... only been mentioned on here.
Top of the form table - playing three poor teams over Christmas... the old Aston Villa would probably get 3 points!
Oh yes... COME ON YOU DRAW!...
We can potentially still go top even if Liverpool beat Arsenal - We just need to sink a cricket score against Sheffield Utd.
We'd need a winning margin of 5 greater than Liverpool to go ahead of them, on goals scored... Heh... Breath not exactly being held, although stranger things have happened
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 10:24:40 AM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 10:24:40 AM
Post by: Smithy on December 18, 2023, 10:26:03 AM
He got booked for trying to control his players and next we'll be fined for NOT controlling them!I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
I still think a booking for what he's trying to do is harsh. He's trying to help manage a bad situation, as would be anyone's instinct in such a situation
Entering the field of play without the ref's permission is a bookable offence. I don't think it was a case of WHAT he did, but WHERE he did it.
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 18, 2023, 10:42:54 AM
which the referee should have done instead of standing around waiting for things to happenHe got booked for trying to control his players and next we'll be fined for NOT controlling them!I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 18, 2023, 10:44:11 AM
Post by: cdward on December 18, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
They take a quick free kick, which leads to the deflected shot, which leads to the corner which they score from.
I know they are separate phases of play, but we should be stopping a quick free kick by standing in front of the ball, i think it was Diaby who was closest and wasn't switched on enough to do it.
Players should just think what would Ashley Young do?
Anyway i'm sure it will be picked up by Emery and his team during post game analysis.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2023, 11:19:52 AM
Post by: Ads on December 18, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
Post by: Risso on December 18, 2023, 11:29:41 AM
Anyone else notice how pussed off SJM was with Kamara when the ref showed the red?
Yep, I mentioned it in the Kamara thread, he went ballistic. Top captain behaviour, trying to maintain the required standards. He’s grown up a lot.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 18, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Post by: Somniloquism on December 18, 2023, 11:36:12 AM
One point i've not seen mentioned is the build up to their goal.
They take a quick free kick, which leads to the deflected shot, which leads to the corner which they score from.
I know they are separate phases of play, but we should be stopping a quick free kick by standing in front of the ball, i think it was Diaby who was closest and wasn't switched on enough to do it.
Players should just think what would Ashley Young do?
Anyway i'm sure it will be picked up by Emery and his team during post game analysis.
Although that is also now pretty much an automatic booking. Plus the freekick was 10 yards ahead of where the foul was so the ref let us down then by not ordering the retake.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 11:38:23 AM
That ref is awful , even worse than the arrogant Oliver.
He looks hapless before you even start to review his refereeing.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 18, 2023, 11:42:17 AM
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 11:43:51 AM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 11:44:17 AM
Not sure he got much wrong did he? Got the Mee one right eventually. Got the kamara one right even though it’s soft. Got the none penalty right got the bookings of Watkins and their bloke right. Got the Maupay booking right.
He got the Mee one wrong and was watching it from a few feet away, the bellend. And sending of Kamara when about half a dozen players had done as much or worse.
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 11:45:55 AM
Anyone else notice how pussed off SJM was with Kamara when the ref showed the red?McGinn needs to stop manhandling players in the box at corners or he's going to get punished for it one game
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 18, 2023, 11:46:15 AM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 11:47:55 AM
Post by: Dave on December 18, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
And sending of Kamara when about half a dozen players had done as much or worse.
Kamara getting sent off was Kamara's fault, not the ref's.
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 11:50:07 AM
Mee was pulling as well but then suddenly lost his footing in that way that Burnley used to get loads of decisions for and clearly practised.i just think its risky. He was doing it at the Dingles too with Dawson
Post by: Pat Mustard on December 18, 2023, 11:53:14 AM
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2023, 11:57:06 AM
https://twitter.com/wesleymoraes09/status/1736438455385698648
Post by: Somniloquism on December 18, 2023, 12:21:00 PM
Mee was pulling as well but then suddenly lost his footing in that way that Burnley used to get loads of decisions for and clearly practised.i just think its risky. He was doing it at the Dingles too with Dawson
Every player does it unfortunately, and if McGinn doesn't, then Mee manhandles him out the way and has a free header. Both the ref and VAR agreed it was both players at it which is why it was not a penalty.
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 12:42:34 PM
Under any other manager in our relatively recent history other than Emery, we lose that game.
Was nice to sit in 2nd for an hour or two, but to gain more ground in the top four race is good to see.
Not a vintage Villa performance by any means, but good teams grind out results when not playing particularly well.
Fair play to Watkins for giving stick back to that fan. Brentford players response was a bit of a disgrace.
If fans can give stick out, they have to expect it back.
I always respected Paul Robinson whenever he visited Villa Park. He got some stick, he gave it back & we all smiled & clapped each other at the end.
The Maupay / Martinez debacles were ridiculous on both players parts. And helped get Kamara sent off in the aftermath. Which is absolutely huge as he is a key player. Maybe Iroegbunam can step up in his absence?
Martinez should know better & as much as I love him & respect his ability as the best goalkeeper Villa have had, certainly in my lifetime, he has this habit of acting a bit of a twat & putting us in awkward situations.
Both teams should be punished by the FA for that debacle. Brentford again for their reaction to Watkins reaction...
Wesley seems happy
https://twitter.com/wesleymoraes09/status/1736438455385698648
Im so happy for Wesley that we not only got that dirty little shit-c**t Ben Mee sent off, but it became the turning point of the game & effectively won it for Villa.
It was about four years too late, but he got it in the end.
I despise Ben Mee for what he did to Wesley.
I watched Wesley playing for Stoke over the weekend & he is done as a half decent pro.
Such a shame that an absolute filthy clogger like Ben Mee got to continue playing top flight football, while Wesley has gone from bad to Stoke, all thanks to the fact that Ben Mee doesn't have the talent to do his job properly & has to resort to being a filthy c**t...
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 18, 2023, 12:47:23 PM
I missed the game! Why did Torres go off? Tactical? Anyway,another win which is brilliant.
Yeah, tactical. 2-1 up against ten men, with their sole attacker being that muppet Maupay. Surprised he didn't take Emi off as well. (Might have been an idea if he had! ;) )
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As soon as he limped off he removed his left boot and sock...took a knock from yet another late Brentford tackle earlier!
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 18, 2023, 12:50:17 PM
And sending of Kamara when about half a dozen players had done as much or worse.
Kamara getting sent off was Kamara's fault, not the ref's.
Yeh, even if he was provoked, you can’t do that. Rush of blood to the head for a player that doesn’t have that reputation. Live and learn as they say. All our players need to do better because it will only get hotter as the spotlight shines on us. We need to keep our calm on and off the pitch.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on December 18, 2023, 12:50:34 PM
Anyone else notice how pussed off SJM was with Kamara when the ref showed the red?McGinn needs to stop manhandling players in the box at corners or he's going to get punished for it one game
I absolutely don't get why players feel the need to do that, not only is it unnecessary, all it does at best is to cause mayhem in your own penalty box, and at worst a penalty.
Post by: Smithy on December 18, 2023, 12:52:09 PM
Anyone else notice how pussed off SJM was with Kamara when the ref showed the red?McGinn needs to stop manhandling players in the box at corners or he's going to get punished for it one game
I can't remember which channel it was now - the one that had Tactics Team in the studio - but they had a former ref analysing some of the decisions (the non-pen for Mee being one of the) and I'm paraphrasing, but he said that when it comes to pulling/holding etc at corners, if both players are doing it, then they're decided they're not going to give penalties this season, which might explain why pens are so rarely being awarded even though it happens in every game. Basically he's only going to get pulled up on it if the other player doesn't grab him at all. But Mee gave as good as he got in that incident.
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 12:53:09 PM
First win at Brentford in (most of) our lifetimes.
1953 in case you're wondering.
Feb 4th 1953
FA Cup 4th round replay
Brentford 1-2 Villa
How many times have we played them in those years?
Brentford haven't exactly been known as a top flight powerhouse throughout history...
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 18, 2023, 12:53:16 PM
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Before the sending off, it felt a bit similar to Forest away. Most of the possession without ever really looking like scoring. Diaby had another off day, and Ramsey looked 'rusty' to be kind to the lad. Ollie was working hard as ever without getting any decent service and Cash was ineffective out wide. The defence was sound though, and Torres played very well, as did Kamara and McGinn. Bailey was great when he came on and changed the game again.
agree totally with this summary
I like most of all that we are doing all this without the stupid money Cit£y, Arsenal, Liver pool and Redscum have threw at it
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 12:53:46 PM
Post by: Flamingo Lane on December 18, 2023, 12:55:01 PM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
And sending of Kamara when about half a dozen players had done as much or worse.
Kamara getting sent off was Kamara's fault, not the ref's.
Well yeah, but others still got off lightly if that was the threshold.
Post by: purpletrousers on December 18, 2023, 01:08:10 PM
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Before the sending off, it felt a bit similar to Forest away. Most of the possession without ever really looking like scoring. Diaby had another off day, and Ramsey looked 'rusty' to be kind to the lad. Ollie was working hard as ever without getting any decent service and Cash was ineffective out wide. The defence was sound though, and Torres played very well, as did Kamara and McGinn. Bailey was great when he came on and changed the game again.
agree totally with this summary
I like most of all that we are doing all this without the stupid money Cit£y, Arsenal, Liver pool and Redscum have threw at it
The cost of our midfield it could be the most ‘bang for the buck’ ever!
Post by: Dave on December 18, 2023, 01:13:22 PM
I had to sleep off a night shift yesterday afternoon and managed to even avoid the score before MOTD2 (which these days means switching off every device I have), and given that MOTD highlights are never a great indicator of how a game really went, I wonder if it really was as even as they made it out to be. The BBC text stats, again to be fair not a great indicator of reality because they don't indicate the quality and effectiveness of possession, for example, indicate that we bossed it on just about every level
Before the sending off, it felt a bit similar to Forest away. Most of the possession without ever really looking like scoring. Diaby had another off day, and Ramsey looked 'rusty' to be kind to the lad. Ollie was working hard as ever without getting any decent service and Cash was ineffective out wide. The defence was sound though, and Torres played very well, as did Kamara and McGinn. Bailey was great when he came on and changed the game again.
agree totally with this summary
I like most of all that we are doing all this without the stupid money Cit£y, Arsenal, Liver pool and Redscum have threw at it
The cost of our midfield it could be the most ‘bang for the buck’ ever!
I think Kante, Mahrez, Drinkwater and Albrighton cost about £7m for the four of them.
Post by: purpletrousers on December 18, 2023, 01:20:10 PM
And sending of Kamara when about half a dozen players had done as much or worse.
Kamara getting sent off was Kamara's fault, not the ref's.
Yeh, even if he was provoked, you can’t do that. Rush of blood to the head for a player that doesn’t have that reputation. Live and learn as they say. All our players need to do better because it will only get hotter as the spotlight shines on us. We need to keep our calm on and off the pitch.
We haven’t had I’d guess too many major transgressions of the Emery code. Losing our heads in the last home loss against Arsenal proved to be quite the vaccination, Emery was clear and public about what he won’t accept. We learned from it.
He was relatively outspoken about talking to Dibu post World Cup, though maybe that was saying enough to placate whoever.
He spoke well yesterday - like many I also like the responsibility not blame culture - it can only give confidence he’ll use this well for learning.
I know were going to miss Kamara but I honestly think the end of the game is one of those that's only going to galvanise us in the long run.
Yep. I think learning to keep our heads, to be serious about our goals requires serious growth and effort.
It’ll be heartbreaking if we lose out on something due to points dropped in the next three. I’m not sure we will, but it would be.
Likewise presumably we can recover from brief blips and taken as a football team building exercise, the last three very different wins must be pretty significant.
If the battle of Brentford was a bit of seasoning in the recipe so be it.
Time will tell.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 18, 2023, 01:29:22 PM
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 01:30:22 PM
Love how Unai called our players out on their behaviour. The guy oozes class and dignity compared to the other gobshites at the top. Anyone notice how much more petulant Pep is getting in interviews these days.
Frank as well, somehow defending Ben Mee, when Kamara's red was way softer but Unai, who knows the rules, doesn't even bring it up. Klopp, Pep, Arteta, they're all saltier than the Dead Sea.
Post by: Ian. on December 18, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
That's a really good point you have made purpletrousers, we probably last had a moment of madness against Arsenal, which goes all the way back to that match.
Post by: purpletrousers on December 18, 2023, 01:33:15 PM
I think Kante, Mahrez, Drinkwater and Albrighton cost about £7m for the four of them.
Strong point well made
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“It turns out that Claudio Ranieri's side cost just under eight times as much as Manuel Pellegrini's -- and three times less than Spurs! Here are the numbers:
Marc Albrighton - Free
Danny Drinkwater - £1m
N'Golo Kante - £5.6m
Riyad Mahrez - £400,000
LEICESTER TOTAL: £54.4m
TOTTENHAM TOTAL: £161.1m
ARSENAL TOTAL: £251.9m
MANCHESTER CITY TOTAL: £418.8m
Be nice to see a Villa fan lick up a title medal in his own colours, rather than recent shades of Blue…
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 18, 2023, 01:33:35 PM
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 01:34:10 PM
https://griffinpark.org/forums/threads/brentford-1-lewis-potter-aston-villa-2-mee-red-card.140069/page-9
They should have had two penalties, The Mee red card was wrong. What the fuck is it with London clubs?
Delicate little bunch aren't they?
So, according to them, they deserved the three points & the ref won Villa the game.
Every contact initiated by Villa was a red card offence & every foul by them is Villa players diving.
The ref was 100% Villa.
No red for Mee.
3 pens for Mee & McGinn tussling with each other in the box, that little shit Maupay running on front of Konsa & falling over & Wissa getting contact outside of the box but as he travelled into it then that is a pen.
They now hate Watkins despite everything he has done for them.
They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
And barely a single atom in the cosmos will give two fucks about what they think of Aston Villa Football Club.
Bless em...
Post by: AV84 on December 18, 2023, 01:35:05 PM
Post by: simon ward 50 on December 18, 2023, 01:55:26 PM
It's something we'll definitely need to keep a lid on because you don't want to be facing teams every week who come out with a plan to niggle until we react.
I think Mister is onto this listening to his post match quotes?
Post by: olaftab on December 18, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 18, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Neither did Jacobs from Talksport the salty Chelsea prick
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 02:23:22 PM
Post by: olaftab on December 18, 2023, 02:26:11 PM
Oh what did they say? I was looking forward their usual dismissiveness but missed it.They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Neither did Jacobs from Talksport the salty Chelsea prick
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 02:29:46 PM
Oh what did they say? I was looking forward their usual dismissiveness but missed it.They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Neither did Jacobs from Talksport the salty Chelsea prick
Arsenal supporting Jay Bothroyd was particularly dismissive of us being at the top too, in a pretty smug smarmy Arsenal Tarquin sort of way on Sky Sports yesterday & today.
In my experience, a lot of Londoners have this really bizarre chip in their shoulders when it comes to the Midlands.
I think that is why it bothers them so much when we beat them.
Especially when we beat them by never having to get out of first or second gear...
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 18, 2023, 02:34:13 PM
Oh what did they say? I was looking forward their usual dismissiveness but missed it.They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Neither did Jacobs from Talksport the salty Chelsea prick
Second time he has seen Villa in the flesh ,and again did not think we were all that . I did remind him we beat both his teams Chelsea and Brentford , but he couldnt hear me
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
Oh what did they say? I was looking forward their usual dismissiveness but missed it.They dont think we are all that & the game has changed their opinions of us as a club.
That's good. i do not want fans of other clubs to view as nice Villa.
Neither did Jacobs from Talksport the salty Chelsea prick
Second time he has seen Villa in the flesh ,and again did not think we were all that . I did remind him we beat both his teams Chelsea and Brentford , but he couldnt hear me
Cracks me up that they don't see it as a slight on their own clubs that we beat both of their teams without needing to get out of second gear...
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 02:42:16 PM
I'm not going to share my mental image of Monty as I did perviously with Sexual Ealing as it was eerily accurate in that instance, and it spooked me that I have some kind of supernatural power.
I got Chiles, they're multiplying.
In my mind Monty looks like a cross between James Forsyth and Bertie Wooster, as played by Hugh Laurie.
Brothers and sisters of H&V, I've met LeeB. You don't want to know.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 02:44:19 PM
I'm not going to share my mental image of Monty as I did perviously with Sexual Ealing as it was eerily accurate in that instance, and it spooked me that I have some kind of supernatural power.
I got Chiles, they're multiplying.
In my mind Monty looks like a cross between James Forsyth and Bertie Wooster, as played by Hugh Laurie.
Brothers and sisters of H&V, I've met LeeB. You don't want to know.
He's right, you'd all just feel shite about yoursleves if you did.
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 18, 2023, 02:46:49 PM
I'm not going to share my mental image of Monty as I did perviously with Sexual Ealing as it was eerily accurate in that instance, and it spooked me that I have some kind of supernatural power.
I got Chiles, they're multiplying.
In my mind Monty looks like a cross between James Forsyth and Bertie Wooster, as played by Hugh Laurie.
Brothers and sisters of H&V, I've met LeeB. You don't want to know.
I had to watch that squashy faced fuck nugget have his portrait painted for a Portrait Artist of the Year episode & he absolutely sucked at sitting still & doing nothing...
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 02:51:11 PM
I'm not going to share my mental image of Monty as I did perviously with Sexual Ealing as it was eerily accurate in that instance, and it spooked me that I have some kind of supernatural power.
I got Chiles, they're multiplying.
In my mind Monty looks like a cross between James Forsyth and Bertie Wooster, as played by Hugh Laurie.
Brothers and sisters of H&V, I've met LeeB. You don't want to know.
I had to watch that squashy faced fuck nugget have his portrait painted for a Portrait Artist of the Year episode & he absolutely sucked at sitting still & doing nothing...
Yeah, but he's a decent poster in fairness.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 18, 2023, 02:53:18 PM
In my mind Monty looks like a cross between James Forsyth and Bertie Wooster, as played by Hugh Laurie.
Try James Forsyth meets Swampy, the tunnel digging environmentalist crusty and you're close.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Post by: Ads on December 18, 2023, 02:54:02 PM
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They were doing that to get a reaction from Maupay and make him lash out at someone I reckon. I've never seen anything like that in 50 years worth of games, it was utterly reprehensible and disrespectful behaviour. It went well beyond sh£thousery and yet the referee did nothing. Its a long time since I've been so angry after a game.
It was fucking hilarious watching that angry little gnome chase after the ball as piggy in the middle.
Post by: Richard E on December 18, 2023, 02:54:50 PM
Post by: Richard E on December 18, 2023, 02:57:51 PM
State of this delicate flower:QuoteThey were doing that to get a reaction from Maupay and make him lash out at someone I reckon. I've never seen anything like that in 50 years worth of games, it was utterly reprehensible and disrespectful behaviour. It went well beyond sh£thousery and yet the referee did nothing. Its a long time since I've been so angry after a game.
It was fucking hilarious watching that angry little gnome chase after the ball as piggy in the middle.
Yeah, what Emi did was obviously completely unprecedented and way worse than, to take a completely random example, a certain N Maupay esq stamping on John McGinn at Villa Park a few years back.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2023, 02:59:37 PM
That newfound arrogance, that belief they're as big as clubs which have been bigger than they are and for much, much longer, that vision of themselves as a brilliantly run club which can do no wrong (only to turn into the new Swansea).
I know I am repeating myself with this, but I fucking hate 'never been here before' recently promoted clubs.
I'd gladly put them all in a massive cannon and fire them at the sun.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:04:47 PM
Brentford are sufficiently freshly promoted to the top flight, they are still showing the lingering mindset you get when a meaningless, piss-pot little club gets promoted.
That newfound arrogance, that belief they're as big as clubs which have been bigger than they are and for much, much longer, that vision of themselves as a brilliantly run club which can do no wrong (only to turn into the new Swansea).
I know I am repeating myself with this, but I fucking hate 'never been here before' recently promoted clubs.
I'd gladly put them all in a massive cannon and fire them at the sun.
100% this, see also plucky cup underdogs, and how great it is to see all these part time arseholes turnout for once in a blue moon and how great it would be for them to see an upset, despite the fact if they turned up every week their shit club might not find themselves as underdogs.
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 03:07:31 PM
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 03:10:53 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Yes, but do you look like James Forsyth?
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 03:11:26 PM
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 03:13:18 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Yes, but do you look like James Forsyth?
Had to google him and how dare you, you were saying Bertie Wooster as well but then you saddle me with this guy who's clearly Gussie Fink-Nottle.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:14:06 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Half their fanbases are plastic scouse/mancs anyway jumping on the Premier League bandwagon. Brentford hadn't had an average attendance of over 5 figures since the early 70's until 2015, and the only reason I knew of their existence until then was because of 'epic' showdowns they'd have with the rags in the semis of the Leyland DAF, when my best mate would try and compare his experiences of such events with me going to the San Siro in the Uefa Cup.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 03:15:30 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Yes, but do you look like James Forsyth?
Had to google him and how dare you, you were saying Bertie Wooster as well but then you saddle me with this guy who's clearly Gussie Fink-Nottle.
He's a Stilton Cheesewright and you know it.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:17:03 PM
For the final time, I don't look like Adrian Chiles. I look (and play football) like a bald George Best, hours before his death.
A young Sir Bert Millichip would be fairer.
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 03:18:59 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Yes, but do you look like James Forsyth?
Had to google him and how dare you, you were saying Bertie Wooster as well but then you saddle me with this guy who's clearly Gussie Fink-Nottle.
He's a Stilton Cheesewright and you know it.
I'm willing to offer you an Oofy Prosser but not a penny more.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2023, 03:20:44 PM
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 03:23:17 PM
Every club has more fans the better they do. That's the reason we've gone from crowds of around 30k, a tier closed off and 11k in the League Cup at home to Boro to full houses, 30k on a waiting list and 5k to Boro in the FA Cup.the 30k waiting list is a bit of a red herring given only 5% of those have ever been to a game at Villa Park (or have a record on the system as attending)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 03:25:53 PM
For the final time, I don't look like Adrian Chiles. I look (and play football) like a bald George Best, hours before his death.
A young Sir Bert Millichip would be fairer.
Deal.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2023, 03:39:39 PM
Every club has more fans the better they do. That's the reason we've gone from crowds of around 30k, a tier closed off and 11k in the League Cup at home to Boro to full houses, 30k on a waiting list and 5k to Boro in the FA Cup.the 30k waiting list is a bit of a red herring given only 5% of those have ever been to a game at Villa Park (or have a record on the system as attending)
That's not quite right.
Quote from: dave.woodhall
And of the 37,000 on the season ticket waiting list, less than 5,000 have bought tickets in the past three years.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:41:58 PM
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 18, 2023, 03:43:40 PM
I know for a fact 3 people on that list have been to games but there's no record of it on the system.Bet they dont live in Bedrock.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2023, 03:44:22 PM
I know for a fact 3 people on that list have been to games but there's no record of it on the system.
There will also be loads of people who have been to matches but not as the ticket purchaser so won't be on the system. Especially from 3 years plus ago, as those would have included the championship years where we let any old fucker buy tickets.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:45:25 PM
I know for a fact 3 people on that list have been to games but there's no record of it on the system.
There will also be loads of people who have been to matches but not as the ticket purchaser so won't be on the system. Especially from 3 years plus ago, as those would have included the championship years where we let any old fucker buy tickets.
That's what I meant.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2023, 03:47:01 PM
I know for a fact 3 people on that list have been to games but there's no record of it on the system.
There will also be loads of people who have been to matches but not as the ticket purchaser so won't be on the system. Especially from 3 years plus ago, as those would have included the championship years where we let any old fucker buy tickets.
That's what I meant.
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT CALM DOWN!
Post by: Rory on December 18, 2023, 03:50:21 PM
I actually like seeing new blood in the league, which means it burns twice as bad when they inevitably turn around to reveal themselves as wankers.
Yes, but do you look like James Forsyth?
Had to google him and how dare you, you were saying Bertie Wooster as well but then you saddle me with this guy who's clearly Gussie Fink-Nottle.
He's a Stilton Cheesewright and you know it.
I'm willing to offer you an Oofy Prosser but not a penny more.
You're a Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright to me, Monty.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 03:54:33 PM
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 03:55:52 PM
Hark at Tuppy Glossop!
Fuck me, Paddy, that is low. He's clearly more of a Bingo Little.
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 03:57:29 PM
I know for a fact 3 people on that list have been to games but there's no record of it on the system.
There will also be loads of people who have been to matches but not as the ticket purchaser so won't be on the system. Especially from 3 years plus ago, as those would have included the championship years where we let any old fucker buy tickets.
That's what I meant.
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT CALM DOWN!
I AM FUCKING CALM!!!!!
Post by: Rory on December 18, 2023, 03:57:48 PM
Post by: dave shelley on December 18, 2023, 04:02:48 PM
which the referee should have done instead of standing around waiting for things to happenHe got booked for trying to control his players and next we'll be fined for NOT controlling them!I can't work out, having just watched the incident again on the club site higlights, exactly why Unai got booked. He just seems to be trying to keep the peace, pulling his own players away from the fire
He's on the pitch, and he shouldn't be. Yes, he's trying to calm things down, but he's basically in the middle of it with, I think, a hand on an opposition player at one point.
Sorry but I think you're wrong. There were approximately ten, fully fit, peak of condition players all trying to wrestle each other with the odd slap being handed out in full-on pub brawl going on. If you think that one man is going to break that up then you're dreaming. Any referee physically getting involved in that is putting himself in real danger and the ref yesterday didn't.
Referee would be better advised to stand aside which he did, and the more sensible players would have calmed it down. The referee would then be able to take appropriate action against those the he saw as the major culprits, he would then include everything he saw in his report and then let the governing authorities sort it out. However poor that referee was yesterday there was nothing he could do to stop that stupidity and I don't blame him for that.
If you have just one player out of twenty two that doesn't want to play within the laws then you have a recipe for trouble, yesterday there was more than one who didn't and the referee's failure to notice and take action makes him just as culpable as to what eventually unfolded as those players. Mee is a c**t!
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: Grande Pablo on December 18, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
Post by: Chris Smith on December 18, 2023, 04:14:24 PM
Post by: dave shelley on December 18, 2023, 04:17:17 PM
He could have helped himself Dave by sending off Mee straight away for that textbook red card, instead it created a sense of Brentford being hard done by I felt.
He could and should Lee. It's what I was alluding to by not recognising who didn't want to play within the laws. On the Mee incident, the ref was about twelve feet away, he couldn't have a better, clearer, unobstructed view of the incident.
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 04:23:25 PM
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 18, 2023, 04:25:54 PM
There are always a couple of teams that seem to be on loan the the Premier League. Over the years that would have been Bolton, Charlton, Oldham, Bradford, Blackpool - smallish clubs that have a good manager or youth team, that have their moment in the sun before disappearing back into obscurity.
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
I can think of a team much closer to home that play in orange.
Post by: Richard E on December 18, 2023, 04:26:34 PM
There are always a couple of teams that seem to be on loan the the Premier League. Over the years that would have been Bolton, Charlton, Oldham, Bradford, Blackpool - smallish clubs that have a good manager or youth team, that have their moment in the sun before disappearing back into obscurity.
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
And Chelsea and Newcastle
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 04:27:41 PM
There are always a couple of teams that seem to be on loan the the Premier League. Over the years that would have been Bolton, Charlton, Oldham, Bradford, Blackpool - smallish clubs that have a good manager or youth team, that have their moment in the sun before disappearing back into obscurity.
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
I can think of a team much closer to home that play in orange.
No come on now, for all that they are...well, what they are, Wolves are a much bigger club than that lot.
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 18, 2023, 04:31:21 PM
There are always a couple of teams that seem to be on loan the the Premier League. Over the years that would have been Bolton, Charlton, Oldham, Bradford, Blackpool - smallish clubs that have a good manager or youth team, that have their moment in the sun before disappearing back into obscurity.
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
I can think of a team much closer to home that play in orange.
No come on now, for all that they are...well, what they are, Wolves are a much bigger club than that lot.
My memory must be playing tricks on me. For nearly all my life they've been lower league dross.
Post by: AV84 on December 18, 2023, 04:35:25 PM
Post by: London Villan on December 18, 2023, 04:39:31 PM
Post by: Grande Pablo on December 18, 2023, 04:47:53 PM
Brentford are Stoke with a manager with a suntan and curtains.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 18, 2023, 04:51:50 PM
And Collins!Edit: Mee and Neil Maupay. Lol.Thought the commentary and analysis on MotD was pretty much spot on.Overall yes I agree apart from one thing. Shearer and Wright invoked the ex players union rule of sticking up for one of their own but in this case one who definitely needs to be called out for the nasty pos he really is. Ben Mee. Wrighty said " that was his first sending off since 2013 he's not a bad lad" or words to that effect. No one on the panel of ex footballers called him out for what it is. He's dished out several serious injuries, our own Wesley and Liverpools Joe Gomez spring to mind. Brentford clearly decided to add a nasty streak to their game by bringing in Mee and Joe Gomez. Their floppy haired twat of a manager said it wasn't a sending off so he's in a minority of one and can go fuck himself. Brentford fans on their forum saying they can't wait to play us again so they can dish out some stick to Watkins, Konsa and Martinez. Bring it on.
A centre back who didn't play CB but just ran around dishing out late tackles, grabbing players and getting in the ref's face....don't think he touched the ball! That was a deliberate "tactic" by Wanker Frank to "disrupt" us and settle a few scores before the end of the game, but he comes on all innocent victim over Mee, the non-penalty and VAR. Small minded, vindictive little shit!
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on December 18, 2023, 04:58:09 PM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 05:11:17 PM
And Collins!Edit: Mee and Neil Maupay. Lol.Thought the commentary and analysis on MotD was pretty much spot on.Overall yes I agree apart from one thing. Shearer and Wright invoked the ex players union rule of sticking up for one of their own but in this case one who definitely needs to be called out for the nasty pos he really is. Ben Mee. Wrighty said " that was his first sending off since 2013 he's not a bad lad" or words to that effect. No one on the panel of ex footballers called him out for what it is. He's dished out several serious injuries, our own Wesley and Liverpools Joe Gomez spring to mind. Brentford clearly decided to add a nasty streak to their game by bringing in Mee and Joe Gomez. Their floppy haired twat of a manager said it wasn't a sending off so he's in a minority of one and can go fuck himself. Brentford fans on their forum saying they can't wait to play us again so they can dish out some stick to Watkins, Konsa and Martinez. Bring it on.
A centre back who didn't play CB but just ran around dishing out late tackles, grabbing players and getting in the ref's face....don't think he touched the ball! That was a deliberate "tactic" by Wanker Frank to "disrupt" us and settle a few scores before the end of the game, but he comes on all innocent victim over Mee, the non-penalty and VAR. Small minded, vindictive little shit!
Certainly didn't touch the ball when Ollie easily lost him for the winner, the schmuck.
Post by: Risso on December 18, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
We have to get used to these small time, sad little clubs getting all pissy about being steam rolled by the might of Aston Villa.
Man City fans - he means you.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 18, 2023, 05:48:50 PM
Post by: Risso on December 18, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2023, 05:54:27 PM
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 18, 2023, 06:23:14 PM
Ollie's said that it wasn't racist, so not sure what else it could be that would be arrestable. (Assuming it's not homophobic).
Threatening behaviour, simple as that.
Post by: Ian. on December 18, 2023, 06:36:13 PM
There are always a couple of teams that seem to be on loan the the Premier League. Over the years that would have been Bolton, Charlton, Oldham, Bradford, Blackpool - smallish clubs that have a good manager or youth team, that have their moment in the sun before disappearing back into obscurity.
Bournemouth, Luton and Brentford are currently holders of that honour.
I can think of a team much closer to home that play in orange.
My Grandad and my dad used to regularly be in the stands at Molineux with over 50k fans. They have a decent history and have had some very good times as well as bad. It’s a shame some of their new found fans from the last few years decided to try and create a strange rivalry and think they are Barcelona for a couple of years, but they are no Brentford.
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 18, 2023, 06:36:49 PM
Defamation.Ollie's said that it wasn't racist, so not sure what else it could be that would be arrestable. (Assuming it's not homophobic).
Threatening behaviour, simple as that.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 18, 2023, 06:57:25 PM
I guess it depends on what he said about his family.Wife, kids, Mum, Dad etc etc....those around the wanker who is responsible will know perfectly well....whether they choose to co-operate with any investigation is another matter. We've already seen examples of Brentford double standards by at least one of them criticising Watkins for celebrating his goal with a clenched fist towards the Villa fans, FFS!
Post by: BC Villain on December 18, 2023, 07:05:41 PM
The police are asking for 'extra details' regarding the Watkins abuse.
Perhaps they'll take action over a vile tweet one of them posted mocking Dalian Atkinsons death
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 07:07:06 PM
Did the police do anything with the Spurs fan who sent Cash nice posts about the Jews in WWII ?The police are asking for 'extra details' regarding the Watkins abuse.
Perhaps they'll take action over a vile tweet one of them posted mocking Dalian Atkinsons death
Post by: Monty on December 18, 2023, 07:11:28 PM
Post by: AV84 on December 18, 2023, 07:35:47 PM
He must be a talent, or do a lot of 13 year olds move clubs for that price?
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 07:38:43 PM
I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on December 18, 2023, 07:41:55 PM
Did the police do anything with the Spurs fan who sent Cash nice posts about the Jews in WWII ?The police are asking for 'extra details' regarding the Watkins abuse.
Perhaps they'll take action over a vile tweet one of them posted mocking Dalian Atkinsons death
Makes you shake your head sadly at what goes through people’s heads to think - let alone post things like that. Awful.
Post by: paul_e on December 18, 2023, 07:49:52 PM
I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
You're like a walking (well driving, probably too fast) stereotype.
Post by: astonvilla82 on December 18, 2023, 08:28:46 PM
That VAR doesn't seem to be working in getting the right decisionHe could have helped himself Dave by sending off Mee straight away for that textbook red card, instead it created a sense of Brentford being hard done by I felt.
He could and should Lee. It's what I was alluding to by not recognising who didn't want to play within the laws. On the Mee incident, the ref was about twelve feet away, he couldn't have a better, clearer, unobstructed view of the incident.
Post by: brontebilly on December 18, 2023, 08:45:25 PM
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 18, 2023, 09:43:08 PM
That tackle on McGinn was rotten too..
Yeah I’m not sure it was intentional but there was definitely the air of a stamp to it.
Post by: paul_e on December 18, 2023, 09:45:00 PM
That tackle on McGinn was rotten too..
Yeah I’m not sure it was intentional but there was definitely the air of a stamp to it.
I think yellow was fair for that but it was on the higher end of what you'd give one for.
Post by: Somniloquism on December 18, 2023, 09:54:49 PM
I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
So you are complaining that the cops are too busy catching lawbreakers?
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 18, 2023, 10:07:03 PM
Defamation.Ollie's said that it wasn't racist, so not sure what else it could be that would be arrestable. (Assuming it's not homophobic).
Threatening behaviour, simple as that.
Civil matter.
Post by: VillaTim on December 18, 2023, 10:14:06 PM
I'm not complaining . 0 points on my license. Merely pointing out their priorities may be somewhat misguided.I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
So you are complaining that the cops are too busy catching lawbreakers?
Post by: paul_e on December 18, 2023, 10:30:46 PM
I'm not complaining . 0 points on my license. Merely pointing out their priorities may be somewhat misguided.I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
So you are complaining that the cops are too busy catching lawbreakers?
I reckon more people are killed by speeding motorists than by theft so it seems fine to me. Of course speeding tickets are almost entirely automated and require fuck all investigation so the comparison is pointless but speed limits being a law that is ok to break is a problem and attitudes like yours don't really help.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2023, 11:21:38 PM
I remember when Brentford used to come to Villa Park and play space age football of a type we'd never seen before, passing the ball to feet, and we'd just huff and puff and play that diagonal ball from keeper to Elmo.
Watching this match, it is a total reversion - we pass the ball all over the pitch, keep possession, Brentford basically kicking us and looking more and more like Stoke City.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 18, 2023, 11:24:21 PM
Post by: LeeB on December 18, 2023, 11:26:03 PM
Twat.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 18, 2023, 11:35:08 PM
Do you think we'll repeat scraping the barrel? Will we fuck!
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 19, 2023, 12:00:07 AM
I loved the shot of him there chewing gum with his whiteboard in hand just before the winner.
Twat.
Listened to thevillapodcast today and someone said to them that Frank chews his gum in an exaggeratedly fast manner like a really poor actor told "go and look like you're chewing gum".
Post by: Rory on December 19, 2023, 12:13:13 AM
I loved the shot of him there chewing gum with his whiteboard in hand just before the winner.
Twat.
Listened to thevillapodcast today and someone said to them that Frank chews his gum in an exaggeratedly fast manner like a really poor actor told "go and look like you're chewing gum".
One of my favourite moments of the podcast, after:
"I had to go to a funeral recently, don't worry, it wasn't someone I knew-"
"Then what the fuck were you doing there?!"
Post by: VillaTim on December 19, 2023, 12:21:08 AM
thanks for totally missing the point ;DI'm not complaining . 0 points on my license. Merely pointing out their priorities may be somewhat misguided.I wonder if their time might be better spent solving just one (1) theft.too busy catching speeding motorists
So you are complaining that the cops are too busy catching lawbreakers?
I reckon more people are killed by speeding motorists than by theft so it seems fine to me. Of course speeding tickets are almost entirely automated and require fuck all investigation so the comparison is pointless but speed limits being a law that is ok to break is a problem and attitudes like yours don't really help.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 19, 2023, 12:23:46 AM
I loved the shot of him there chewing gum with his whiteboard in hand just before the winner.
Twat.
Listened to thevillapodcast today and someone said to them that Frank chews his gum in an exaggeratedly fast manner like a really poor actor told "go and look like you're chewing gum".
One of my favourite moments of the podcast, after:
"I had to go to a funeral recently, don't worry, it wasn't someone I knew-"
"Then what the fuck were you doing there?!"
Ha ha, yes, that was very good.
Also of note, the Moneyball speech thing they play, how they've recently added a couple of clips of Grealish. "You what?" and "I don't know what that means".
Absolute genius.
Post by: Rory on December 19, 2023, 12:35:02 AM
I loved the shot of him there chewing gum with his whiteboard in hand just before the winner.
Twat.
Listened to thevillapodcast today and someone said to them that Frank chews his gum in an exaggeratedly fast manner like a really poor actor told "go and look like you're chewing gum".
One of my favourite moments of the podcast, after:
"I had to go to a funeral recently, don't worry, it wasn't someone I knew-"
"Then what the fuck were you doing there?!"
Ha ha, yes, that was very good.
Also of note, the Moneyball speech thing they play, how they've recently added a couple of clips of Grealish. "You what?" and "I don't know what that means".
Absolute genius.
Yeah I picked up on that and sounds like a Brummie accent, so not sure where they've got that from.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 19, 2023, 12:36:13 AM
Post by: LeeB on December 19, 2023, 12:37:37 AM
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 19, 2023, 12:49:13 AM
Wasn't it him hearing the word 'encyclopedia'?
It was. My mate's podcast has been having fun with it for a few years.
Post by: The Edge on December 19, 2023, 12:50:40 AM
He could have helped himself Dave by sending off Mee straight away for that textbook red card, instead it created a sense of Brentford being hard done by I felt.I think you're right but what confuses me is Frank's stance. He would of had ample opportunity to watch the replay of that tackle and put the record straight. He's lost all credibility by sticking to his opinion that it was not worthy of a sending off. He had his chance to redeem himself but as far as I'm concerned he will always be known as a massive tool. A massive gum chewing floppy haired tool.
Post by: Rory on December 19, 2023, 01:01:26 AM
Wasn't it him hearing the word 'encyclopedia'?
It was. My mate's podcast has been having fun with it for a few years.
Oh really? Excellent.
Did we really only buy Little Emi after Grealish left? Feels like he's been with us for an age.
Post by: Bad English on December 19, 2023, 05:07:21 AM
Post by: lovejoy on December 19, 2023, 07:37:09 AM
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 19, 2023, 07:37:11 AM
I have no idea what this means.
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 19, 2023, 07:44:34 AM
I've just woken up from a flu-induced weird dream in which we beat Newcastle 9-2 at home. It was 2-2 in the second half, then Benteke came on and scored two in quick succession. Kevin Richardson had a blinder in midfield and Ashley Young scored an incredible free kick.
I have no idea what this means.
Did Berson play?
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 19, 2023, 08:03:49 AM
Post by: Clampy on December 19, 2023, 08:45:51 AM
I've just woken up from a flu-induced weird dream in which we beat Newcastle 9-2 at home. It was 2-2 in the second half, then Benteke came on and scored two in quick succession. Kevin Richardson had a blinder in midfield and Ashley Young scored an incredible free kick.
I have no idea what this means.
I read that as 'flu induced wet dream' at first.
It's early.
Post by: adrenachrome on December 19, 2023, 08:56:32 AM
I've just woken up from a flu-induced weird dream in which we beat Newcastle 9-2 at home. It was 2-2 in the second half, then Benteke came on and scored two in quick succession. Kevin Richardson had a blinder in midfield and Ashley Young scored an incredible free kick.
I have no idea what this means.
Been on the NIght Nurse. Amirite?
Post by: The Edge on December 19, 2023, 10:05:49 AM
To right.I conker.
Post by: rob_bridge on December 19, 2023, 10:39:10 AM
I've just woken up from a flu-induced weird dream in which we beat Newcastle 9-2 at home. It was 2-2 in the second half, then Benteke came on and scored two in quick succession. Kevin Richardson had a blinder in midfield and Ashley Young scored an incredible free kick.
I have no idea what this means.
Did Berson play?
Did Barry take a pen?
Post by: Monty on December 19, 2023, 10:59:56 AM