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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Rigadon on November 10, 2023, 08:58:50 AM
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2pm Sunday 12th, Villa Park
We need to get back on it in the league before yet another infuriating international break. Apparently if we win it breaks a home wining streak record that's 4 decades old?! The 3 points are more important though.
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I can see us winning this 3-0
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I thought we had to beat Man City after Fulham for the record? I could be wrong.
We'll win.
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Our home form is a bit wobbly with that Everton defeat we need to get back on it 😃
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Fulham? About as grey a team as it's possible to imagine. Fairly solid generally, find it hard to score regularly, difficult to get excited about playing them.
A game to go to, not enjoy that much, but feel better for having ground out a narrow win.
1-0 to us.
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2-0 win. Last on MOTD2. Routine.
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We'll win
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Have a bad feeling about this. We toiled against them last time they came here in April, Ty's header from a corner was as good as it got which thankfully was enough but I can just see Silva setting-up to frustrate again.
1-1 and the home league record left with a dented fender.
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After losing to probably the worst Man united team in premier league history, next game a visit to fortress Villa Park deep joy, it’s been a funny season so far, losing Mitrovic to the sand pit league nearly losing Palhinha to Bayern Munich, haven’t played particularly well in the games I’ve watched, but were only a couple of points worse off where we were last season and in the first quarter final of the league cup for 20 years, we have 3 forwards who would struggle to score regularly in the championship, hoping Vinicius becomes Vinicius junior mark two but I doubt it, the only plus for me is that the 3 promoted sides look poor, infact they remind me of the Fulham teams of 2018 and 2020, as to the game I’m hoping your a bit tired after Thursday’s game, we’ll be quite solid without any goal threat, hope you continue have a good season after Sunday of course
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Nice one mate but are you in a hurry? I'm out of breath reading that.
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Lovely to see you about, Londonfranky. Hope all's well mate
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We're now into the thick part of the season with games coming thick, fast and pathetically often given the way the PL have organised the calendar in December. Coping with Thursday/Sunday is a job in itself but we seem to be ok, the front end of the season was loaded with injuries so we were due a bit of breathing space in that respect.
A home game against Fulham is straightforward on paper but as each game passes, particularly at home, the pressure increases. Expectation from us and the media, the 1983 record being mentioned along with talk of CL qualification and our record under Emery constantly being compared to the very best teams in this league.
But I really believe the Manager and the players are thriving on this and the odd aberration of the like we saw last week will be just that, odd.
3-1
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
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1-0
Konsa
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
No but there's only one effin' Fulham.
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
No but there's only one effin' Fulham.
Read this as 'there's only one F in Fulham'. Which is also true.
Edit: now occurs to me that this was probably the point.
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0-2.
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Hi Franky
You should have beat Manu but had a collective melt down.
Best wishes except for Sunday.
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
sorry about that TV, didn’t expect to run into the punctuation police
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
sorry about that TV, didn’t expect to run into the punctuation police
If there's one thing you can be certain of on here, it's that.
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Back on track with an easy win, 3-1.
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
No but there's only one effin' Fulham.
Read this as 'there's only one F in Fulham'. Which is also true.
Edit: now occurs to me that this was probably the point.
It was indeed Monty!
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Crikey Franky. Is there a shortage of full stops in London?
No but there's only one effin' Fulham.
Read this as 'there's only one F in Fulham'. Which is also true.
Edit: now occurs to me that this was probably the point.
It was indeed Monty!
In my defence I am quite hungover today.
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Tut tut, a school night as well.
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Tut tut, a school night as well.
When you freelance every night is a school night, which is to say that none are.
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Fulham are awful. Their defence goes missing a lot of time, and I think Villa could be in for a rout.
Another 3+ goals on the cards. I'll double it for a 6-0
Scorers:
Watkins or Diaby Hat Trick.
The other with a brace
Luiz with a Penalty.
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Fulham are awful. Their defence goes missing a lot of time, and I think Villa could be in for a rout.
Another 3+ goals on the cards. I'll double it for a 6-0
Scorers:
Watkins or Diaby Hat Trick.
The other with a brace
Luiz with a Penalty.
That's quite a tasty prediction this week, FV. Looking forward to seeing if your studying and research has proven fruitful again.
I think we will win but not quite 6-0.
Either way, FTF 8)
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Fulham are awful. Their defence goes missing a lot of time, and I think Villa could be in for a rout.
I think Fulham could be in for a rout, not Villa.
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Us 3 Them 1. We don't do clean sheets.
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Think Fulham might be a frustrating team to play, they'll set up to do niggly fouls and break play up.
I'm going for 1-0 Villa.
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We don't do clean sheets but Fulham don't score. 9 goals so far. Only Burnely have scored less than them this season.
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I'd really like a clean sheet, a Zaniolo goal, Diaby to play well and to see the added security and practicality of two keepers on the bench.
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
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Our home form is a bit wobbly with that Everton defeat we need to get back on it 😃
Yes totally erratic played 8 won 7 drawn 0 lost 1. We badly need consistency :D
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
And how Pau and Mings would be as two left footed defenders playing together?
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
And how Pau and Mings would be as two left footed defenders playing together?
They wouldn't be playing together. One would be in the league games, one in Europe.
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Pau's been pretty good, his distribution at times positively sexy.
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Any news on when JJ will return? we could have done with him the last couple.
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
And how Pau and Mings would be as two left footed defenders playing together?
They wouldn't be playing together. One would be in the league games, one in Europe.
EPL would be your strongest 2 i.e. Konsa / Mings
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
And how Pau and Mings would be as two left footed defenders playing together?
They wouldn't be playing together. One would be in the league games, one in Europe.
EPL would be your strongest 2 i.e. Konsa / Mings
Based on what we've seen of team selection so far my assumption is that if Mings wasn't injured we obviously wouldn't have signed Lenglet, and Torres would be playing the European games with Carlos. I think Torres was bought with the intention of eventually phasing Mings out, but he would have had a more gradual introduction to the Prem, and at some point he'd become first choice there. But probably not until next season, or if we exited Europe early he might have mixed things up in the 2nd half of the season.
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These useless never-finished-new-stand London fannies are going to get totally fucking funeralled.
8-0
Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Bailey, Watkins, Watkins, Watkins, Konsa.
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With the clean sheets it really shows how well Mings bosses our defence.
Makes you wonder where we'd be sat if he'd been fit
And how Pau and Mings would be as two left footed defenders playing together?
They wouldn't be playing together. One would be in the league games, one in Europe.
EPL would be your strongest 2 i.e. Konsa / Mings
Sorry, I know it's a bit Bad Engish style nit picky, but I've just read "EPL" and vomitted all over the cat.
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Sorry, I know it's a bit Bad Engish style nit picky, but I've just read "EPL" and vomitted all over the cat.
It's a valid concern. Last week I posted a stat that referred to the 'EPL' but fortunately I was able to edit it to 'Premier League' before my fellow H&Vers heaped opprobrium on me.
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In time the strongest two will be Carlis and Torres.
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In time the strongest two will be Carlis and Torres.
It’s quite impressive how Konsa has kept improving during his entire term at Villa - each new season he outlasts the new squad additions.
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These useless never-finished-new-stand London fannies are going to get totally fucking funeralled.
8-0
Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Bailey, Watkins, Watkins, Watkins, Konsa.
They'll finish the Sagrada Familia before they finish that fucking thing
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I expect us to win but I think it will be a tough one. 1-0 to us don’t care who scores
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I am looking forward to this game.
Posted from the French internet.
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4-0 win
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2-0 (Watkins, Luiz)
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2-0; no rout here.
I really would like to see Emery play Bailey on the left, with Diaby and Watkins upfront (Bailey's pace is rarely seen when he plays on the right because he's almost-always looking to cut inside.). That way, we can get McGinn back on his favoured right side in midfield. Bailey on the right is excruciating most of the time (until he finally tries crossing with his right foot which isn't as bad as he obviously thinks it is).
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If you can’t be confident after 12 home wins in a row, you never will be! Fully expect a record equaling thirteenth victory against a very ordinary Fulham side.
3-1 to AVFC
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
We lost 0-2 after dominating possession and most of the game, it was hardly a debacle. We are going to lose games this season, every loss isn’t a car crash.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
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I am looking forward to this game.
Posted from the French internet.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Forest won.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
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Yea I know, its so true, shouldn’t bite, the new Fred
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Semantics aside, it was a shit display at Forest. Our home form is an entirely different proposition though. 3-1, as Martinez seems incapable of keeping a clean sheet at the moment.
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
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What happened to Flinstone ?
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
No, different team , competition , level of opponent (mid table championship) etc etc
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
No, different team , competition , level of opponent (mid table championship) etc etc
We still bounced back with a win.
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Nice one mate but are you in a hurry? I'm out of breath reading that.
Ha ha yes! Still, better unpunctuated and friendly than perfectly punctuated and Small Heath.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
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I think they finally finished La Sagrada Familia this year, didn't they ?
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Yet another weekend when despite subscribing to every TV broadcaster and subscription TV channel the game isn't on.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Honestly, they were not
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Now Spurs have lost, I am absolutely certain that we wont take advantage & will narrowly lose...
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We will win tomorrow. Fulham are decent but no better than any of the sides we’ve dispatched comfortably at Villa Park in the league in this amazing run.
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
No, different team , competition , level of opponent (mid table championship) etc etc
Why look at the positives when you can be utterly miserable
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
No, different team , competition , level of opponent (mid table championship) etc etc
Why look at the positives when you can be utterly miserable
Oi, no! I reserve the right to be a depressive mental health in the gutter misery case thank you very much. 😉
Us 3 gentlemen of Chelsea 0(don’t mind Fulham tbh)
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ok substitute the word debacle for shit. It was piss poor . Yes we dominated possession so what ? So did Burnley when we went to Turf Moor . I want to see a reaction like all the top sides show after a shit game
Like Thursday you mean?
No, different team , competition , level of opponent (mid table championship) etc etc
AZ mid table Championship? You need to get out a bit more!
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
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I think they finally finished La Sagrada Familia this year, didn't they ?
Think they did.
Probably marks me out as the uncultured moron that I am, but I went there about 20 years ago and thought it was shit. I mean, obviously they've put a load of effort in to it and that, but it really wasn't my cup of tea at all.
Edit: still under construction according to Wikipedia.
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I think they finally finished La Sagrada Familia this year, didn't they ?
Think they did.
Probably marks me out as the uncultured moron that I am, but I went there about 20 years ago and thought it was shit. I mean, obviously they've put a load of effort in to it and that, but it really wasn't my cup of tea at all.
Bound to be a disappointment after St. Giles.
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We could win this tomorrow and still be in 5th place! It's so annoying, but I guess as long as we're in touch with those above us I shouldn't complain.
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Much like the Luton game, we don’t need to be at our best, but we need to be clinical and efficient.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
They did exactly what they set out to do. They shit out the top scorers in the division whilst scoring twice themselves.
It may not have been attractive, but it was most certainly effective, and for that I'd say they did excellently.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
They did exactly what they set out to do. They shit out the top scorers in the division whilst scoring twice themselves.
It may not have been attractive, but it was most certainly effective, and for that I'd say they did excellently.
I know what you mean, but I can't agree. They were functional and we had an off day. Play that game another 9 times and we wouldn't lose many more of them I don' think.
Anyway, I expect Fulham to try the same tactics, so fingers crossed we're a bit less encouraging at the back and more incisive in front of goal.
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It's going to be similar to the last three matches in terms of how the opponents play, fingers crossed we have enough to do the business.
A mate of mine who's a Liverpool fan moans about how nearly every team comes to Anfield to kill the game and frustrate. I used to think this was typical scab 6 whinging with no good reason but are we starting to be in the same boat now?
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I think they finally finished La Sagrada Familia this year, didn't they ?
Think they did.
Probably marks me out as the uncultured moron that I am, but I went there about 20 years ago and thought it was shit. I mean, obviously they've put a load of effort in to it and that, but it really wasn't my cup of tea at all.
Bound to be a disappointment after St. Giles.
Isn't everywhere? :)
It's got a big mural of the devil getting medieval on some sinner's arses - that's my favourite bit.
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Think they did.
Probably marks me out as the uncultured moron that I am, but I went there about 20 years ago and thought it was shit. I mean, obviously they've put a load of effort in to it and that, but it really wasn't my cup of tea at all.
Bound to be a disappointment after St. Giles.
Isn't everywhere? :)
It's got a big mural of the devil getting medieval on some sinner's arses - that's my favourite bit.
You had me at getting medieval, I'll have to check it out when I visit. 8)
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It's going to be similar to the last three matches in terms of how the opponents play, fingers crossed we have enough to do the business.
A mate of mine who's a Liverpool fan moans about how nearly every team comes to Anfield to kill the game and frustrate. I used to think this was typical scab 6 whinging with no good reason but are we starting to be in the same boat now?
Yeah, we're becoming top six whingers too. Which is nice.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
They weren’t.
We were poor.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
They did exactly what they set out to do. They shit out the top scorers in the division whilst scoring twice themselves.
It may not have been attractive, but it was most certainly effective, and for that I'd say they did excellently.
Wow, your bar for excellent is ridiculously low. You'd be a great boss to work for
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Forest played well, stop being a div.
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Forest played well, stop being a div.
Stop being a div , they really didn't , they were functional we gifted them 2 goals and fannyed about with the ball a lot .
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
No they were not poor. You’re up a gum tree. They broke quickly and effectively and did their homework, stifling us. Their centre backs won everything. Two teams actually take to the pitch. No, they weren’t Man City ‘excellent’ but they were the best they could be, or very close to it.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
They did exactly what they set out to do. They shit out the top scorers in the division whilst scoring twice themselves.
It may not have been attractive, but it was most certainly effective, and for that I'd say they did excellently.
Wow, your bar for excellent is ridiculously low. You'd be a great boss to work for
Oh Tim, you're nice but, well, yeah.
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Seem to remember these lot coming to Villa Park last season and sitting very deep. Expect more of the same tomorrow and a bit of a grind.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
No they were not poor. You’re up a gum tree. They broke quickly and effectively and did their homework, stifling us. Their centre backs won everything. Two teams actually take to the pitch. No, they weren’t Man City ‘excellent’ but they were the best they could be, or very close to it.
For what it's worth, I thought Forest started brightly but weren't great overall. That second goal right after half time was a killer as it allowed them to play to their strengths.
We lost, it's gone, time to move on.
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Forest played well, stop being a div.
Stop being a div , they really didn't , they were functional we gifted them 2 goals and fannyed about with the ball a lot .
OK, carry on being a div then, no skin off my nose.
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Forest played well, stop being a div.
Stop being a div , they really didn't , they were functional we gifted them 2 goals and fannyed about with the ball a lot .
OK, carry on being a div then, no skin off my nose.
Fair enough , lets move on UTV
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I filled my Paul McGrath mug with the wrong tea this morning ie herbal stuff - I’m taking that as a good omen. 3-0
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It would be excellent to go into the break with a win, then come back with JJ and Moreno more likely to feature.
Massive game, hopefully we can start quickly as we have done many times to get that early, settling goal.
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Hopefully we see a big reaction after last Sundays debacle .
It wasn't a debacle. What nonsense.
It is nonsense. No-one seems to mention that Forest were excellent.
Saying Forest were excellent is as much of a nonsense as calling it a debacle. They were poor, we were worse.
No they were not poor. You’re up a gum tree. They broke quickly and effectively and did their homework, stifling us. Their centre backs won everything. Two teams actually take to the pitch. No, they weren’t Man City ‘excellent’ but they were the best they could be, or very close to it.
For what it's worth, I thought Forest started brightly but weren't great overall. That second goal right after half time was a killer as it allowed them to play to their strengths.
We lost, it's gone, time to move on.
We'd have been hailing a performance like that if we'd beat say Man City playing the way Forest did last week.
We'll get beat occasionally. It's the way it is.
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I'm actually more nervous about today than our next game, away at Spuds. Hopefully, it's just the pessimistic Villa fan of old in me, and today turns out to be a formality, but with the way results went yesterday, potentially allowing us to overtake Spurs when we face em, I'm worried we'll shoot ourselves in the foot like we did last week.
*and it's my birthday tomorrow, 48 years young, so don't fuck it up Villa! UTV
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we just need to play our game and be patient and concentrate at the back
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we just need to play our game and be patient and concentrate at the back
Always imposing our style, being demanding, respecting our opponents always, connecting with our fans.
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we just need to play our game and be patient and concentrate at the back
Always imposing our style, being demanding, respecting our opponents always, connecting with our fans.
😂
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There's a high chance of a clean sheet for Martinez
Fulham offer a very small threat going forward.
They are the joint lowest scorers with 9 goals in 11 matches.
3rd lowest for shots per game away from home.
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Fulham are awful. Their defence goes missing a lot of time, and I think Villa could be in for a rout.
Another 3+ goals on the cards. I'll double it for a 6-0
Scorers:
Watkins or Diaby Hat Trick.
The other with a brace
Luiz with a Penalty.
That's quite a tasty prediction this week, FV. Looking forward to seeing if your studying and research has proven fruitful again.
I think we will win but not quite 6-0.
Either way, FTF 8)
The pattern goes 4, 3, 6 .
4 v Everton
3 v Palace
6 v Brighton
4 v West Ham
3 v Luton
?6 v Fulham
And 13 home wins !!!
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I'm actually more nervous about today than our next game, away at Spuds. Hopefully, it's just the pessimistic Villa fan of old in me, and today turns out to be a formality, but with the way results went yesterday, potentially allowing us to overtake Spurs when we face em, I'm worried we'll shoot ourselves in the foot like we did last week.
*and it's my birthday tomorrow, 48 years young, so don't fuck it up Villa! UTV
Hopefully we'll actually score today, whereas last week we could have played till Christmas without doing so!
I'll be optimistic for you: 2-1 to us and Ollie for both and Emi to redeem himself in the league.
Many happy returns for tomorrow! :)
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Anyone know any pubs that are showing in in town or south Brum? Do pubs still stream them like they used to or has that been stamped out?
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A routine, uneventful, pretty forgettable 2-0 win, continuing our run of home wins but ending our 100% record this season of having scored 3+ goals in every home game. Fulham seem a bit of a non-entity this season; I've barely noticed them.
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Suspect they will come for a 0-0 or hope to nick somehing via a set piece.
Up to us to be on the front foot which is always a bit of a concern
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Suspect they will come for a 0-0 or hope to nick somehing via a set piece.
Up to us to be on the front foot which is always a bit of a concern
Well it hasn't been very much of a concern so far at home, has it?
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These useless never-finished-new-stand London fannies are going to get totally fucking funeralled.
8-0
Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Zaniolo, Bailey, Watkins, Watkins, Watkins, Konsa.
We'll be laying goals all over them.
I like Fulham well enough, they'd be a contender for the coveted 'If I Really Had to Support a Team Down Here' trophy. So I'll let them off with a 4-0 light tonking.
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Managed to get a last minute ticket. First game since playoff final Vs Derby... Don't disappoint me lads!
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Fulham are woven into our history in some bad moments but maybe long term for the good.
We got beat 2-0 at home in an infamous fa cup tie - think was one of Little’s last matches ?
Losing the play off final - gutting though it was at the time, saved us from the slippery owner at the time.
Losing 3-0 last season in probably one of the worst performances in memory, a penalty, an own goal, a sending off. Goodbye SG, hello Emery.