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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: olaftab on November 05, 2023, 11:51:19 PM
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Thursday 9 November KO 8:00 PM
Venue: Villa Park
OK time to move on to UECL and match against AZ. We dispensed with them easily in Alkmaar about 10 days ago and I see no reason why we won’t send them back disappointed on Thursday.
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-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Diego Lenglet Moreno
----- Luiz --- Dendonker --
Bailey ---------------- McGinn
--- Watkins --- Diaby ------
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3-3
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0-2.
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0-2.
Oh dear
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2-1, no reason.
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We have bounced back from defeat before under this Manager so there is no reason that we won't do it again. Yesterday was rather like Newcastle/Liverpool in that a number of players looked off it, or at least under par. Where you can carry one or two, any more than that and it makes life difficult. I don't think that will be the case on Thursday and there will changes. I'm optimistic, we won't win 'em all, but we'll win plenty.
2-1
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0-2.
Oh dear
Legion posts 0-2 for every game, Telford.
Lambert or Smith, Steven or Emery.
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Question: I have purchased this ticket and it shows as purchased on my purchase history. However, I do not have a virtual ticket for it. Have they been sent out? - how do I get one?
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Question: I have purchased this ticket and it shows as purchased on my purchase history. However, I do not have a virtual ticket for it. Have they been sent out? - how do I get one?
Should have come to you via email
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2-0 Villa win and back to winning ways.
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0-2.
Oh dear
Legion posts 0-2 for every game, Telford.
Lambert or Smith, Steven or Emery.
He was probably the only H & Ver yesterday to get both result and score right!
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We’re going to win. Things will be fine. We will beat Fulham and set up a massive game vs Spurs away after the international break.
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-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Diego Lenglet Moreno
----- Luiz --- Dendonker --
Bailey ---------------- McGinn
--- Watkins --- Diaby ------
No need to make that many changes - we need to win this and i would start the same side as yesterday and say they owe us a performance.
Win this, really strengthens our position in the league, then maybe a few tweaks for Fulham
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Question: I have purchased this ticket and it shows as purchased on my purchase history. However, I do not have a virtual ticket for it. Have they been sent out? - how do I get one?
Should have come to you via email
Thx, that's what I thought ...
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Olsen won’t be starting ahead of Emi. Not while the group is so tight. And after losing yesterday we don’t need to take any unnecessary risks.
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Quite right TV. We need to put this league to bed so another 3 points and we’re almost there. Bugger about with the team once we know we’re going to top the group
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-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Diego Lenglet Moreno
----- Luiz --- Dendonker --
Bailey ---------------- McGinn
--- Watkins --- Diaby ------
I doubt he’ll play Olsen (or is that just me praying)
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421 seats available just now. That includes 80 in K1, 26 in K7, and 50 in M5.
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Win this then rest players the final two games.
3-0 Villa, due a clean sheet.
FTF 8)
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-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Diego Lenglet Moreno
----- Luiz --- Dendonker --
Bailey ---------------- McGinn
--- Watkins --- Diaby ------
Olsen....jeez Tim. Cash seemed to limp off at the weekend so will be interesting to see how we cover him on Thursday. One of Konsa or Chambers I guess. We bullied Alkamaar a couple of weeks back but our last two league games have been a bit flat so I think this will be a lot tougher.
Martinez
Konsa, Carlos, Lenglet, Moreno
Luiz, Kamara
Bailey, Tielemans, McGinn
Watkins
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We weren’t that bad on Sunday and I think we’ll bounce back with a 2-0 win.
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Win this then rest players the final two games.
Can't really do that as we'll probably need to beat Legia (preferably by a couple) to top the group.
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Question: I have purchased this ticket and it shows as purchased on my purchase history. However, I do not have a virtual ticket for it. Have they been sent out? - how do I get one?
Should have come to you via email
Yep, should have come with the email.
Mine did; but wouldn’t load into my wallet.
Went back to my account and found a download button there.
Might have been lurking in the Alert link. Worth giving it a shot.
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2-0 Villa
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Got a spare in the upper north stand if anyone fancies it. I’ll cut you a deal and you can have it for £20, saving you the princely sum of £4.30!!
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I’ve also got two in the upper north going spare - one is an under 14s ticket. Both for £20!
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I’ve also got two in the upper north going spare - one is an under 14s ticket. Both for £20!
Looks like it’s a price war !😂
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We’re going to win. Things will be fine. We will beat Fulham and set up a massive game vs Spurs away after the international break.
And Jacob Ramsey will be back.....
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Important game this. Win it and a good chance we top the group and get a bye.
Lose and there's no guarantee we go through at all.
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-------- Olsen ----------
Cash Diego Lenglet Moreno
----- Luiz --- Dendonker --
Bailey ---------------- McGinn
--- Watkins --- Diaby ------
I doubt he’ll play Olsen (or is that just me praying)
I’ll join you
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The reason I don't think we'll see Olsen is partly because Emi made such a big deal of qualifying for Europe. I mean, I know all the players did, but he gives the air of one who really really wants to play these games.
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Why would he play Olsen now when he hasn't featured at all in the group stage?
The only way we see Olsen in Europe again this season is a) Martinez is injured, b) we've already safely qualified and the last match is irrelevant, or, c) worst case scenario, we can't qualify and the last group match is irrelevant.
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He definitely won't play Olsen. Think he'll go with the line up from the away match, injuries permitting.
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Why would he play Olsen now when he hasn't featured at all in the group stage?
The only way we see Olsen in Europe again this season is a) Martinez is injured, b) we've already safely qualified and the last match is irrelevant, or, c) worst case scenario, we can't qualify and the last group match is irrelevant.
D) played upfront as a tribute to David James
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We are going to batter these 3-0. Steamroller mode. FTF!
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Lenglet and Tielemans are European Conference regulars and that makes sense given their European experience
I think Konsa and Moreno will play full backs
He definitely won't play Olsen. Think he'll go with the line up from the away match, injuries permitting.
So that's Martinez , Cash, Carlos , Lenglet Digne, Kamara, Luiz, McGinn, Tielemans, Bailey, Watkins.
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As I mentioned in the away thread, as strong a team as possible and go for the win. And then hope results in the other leg fall in our favour. (Draw would be best). Then beat Legia at home better then 3-2 and we should be fine.
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2-0
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Us loads-1 Them
Will be my first Villa match in what seems like aaaaaages. Genuinely think the UECL is our best shot at silverware this season, and we should go all in for it.
Definite 'no' to Olsen for me, unless it's circumstances beyond our control. I'm not as anti-Olsen as some on here, but it's such a drop-off from Martinez to him ...
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435 tickets left, with beat availability in the upper Holte where unused season tickets have gone on sale.
Assuming they've sold out, capacity will be around 40,000, so a big crowd to be on.
I was surprised they didn't sell out when we played them.
Also note that you can purchase tickets in the upper away end for the Fulham game.
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435 tickets left, with beat availability in the upper Holte where unused season tickets have gone on sale.
Assuming they've sold out, capacity will be around 40,000, so a big crowd to be on.
I was surprised they didn't sell out when we played them.
Also note that you can purchase tickets in the upper away end for the Fulham game.
Imagine if we had a 5.45 KO - i doubt many teams would sell out with that ridiculous time
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435 tickets left, with beat availability in the upper Holte where unused season tickets have gone on sale.
Assuming they've sold out, capacity will be around 40,000, so a big crowd to be on.
I was surprised they didn't sell out when we played them.
Also note that you can purchase tickets in the upper away end for the Fulham game.
It's gone up from two days ago!
421 seats available just now. That includes 80 in K1, 26 in K7, and 50 in M5.
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Emery half an hour late with his presser today. 🤔
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435 tickets left, with beat availability in the upper Holte where unused season tickets have gone on sale.
Assuming they've sold out, capacity will be around 40,000, so a big crowd to be on.
I was surprised they didn't sell out when we played them.
Also note that you can purchase tickets in the upper away end for the Fulham game.
Imagine if we had a 5.45 KO - i doubt many teams would sell out with that ridiculous time
It's 18:45 in Alkmaar.
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Some research undertaken shows that Az are referred to Kaaskoppen or De Kaasboeren.
My understanding of Dutch is only basics but some help in researching online to discover they are called Cheese Heads or Cheese Farmers.
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435 tickets left, with beat availability in the upper Holte where unused season tickets have gone on sale.
Assuming they've sold out, capacity will be around 40,000, so a big crowd to be on.
I was surprised they didn't sell out when we played them.
Also note that you can purchase tickets in the upper away end for the Fulham game.
Imagine if we had a 5.45 KO - i doubt many teams would sell out with that ridiculous time
It's 18:45 in Alkmaar.
I'm just excited it's European football at Villa Park!
That 545pm time would be nice time for me if I was attending as a kick off time suitable in winter for weather, and regards any safety concerns and travel. Excuse the selfishness tone of the post.
I'd love to go and experience the European night atmospheres but I don't care to be out late nights, and travelling back to London on trains without assistance is out of the question for me.
And I'm unable to stay over on this occasion as that's what I like to do before and made a weekend of it. The Club have been able to accommodate when I request attendance and given a great location and seating arrangements as have couple of other Prem teams with contacts I have.
So tomorrow I make do with watching on the screen, cheering on and being able to pause and evaluate things while still staying warm and safe indoors away from the trouble that regrettably still exists in and around football matches. Especially these European ones. It may be only a minority but it's sad.
Fingers crossed that by spring and the latter stages, I'll be able to attend a major match! That's my hope.
Best wishes to all attending tomorrow
Glory to Villa!
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Moreno possibly playing tomorrow and Duran back and available.
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This is quite a big game in terms of this competition. If us and Warsaw win or even if they draw tomorrow night then it puts us in a strong position with us only really needing a point from the last two games to qualify out of the group.
A draw wouldn't be the worst result for them, so I imagine they will try and keep it tight.
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Emery says he had doubts over tomorrow's starting 11. He's not clear on who he wants to play, but it's not the players he has doubts over, he wants to be "clinical" in his decision.
Sounds good, I guess?
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Moreno possibly playing tomorrow and Duran back and available.
BBC says Durán is still out?
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Moreno possibly playing tomorrow and Duran back and available.
BBC says Durán is still out?
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1722260304099500486?s=46
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3.2 to us.
They score first.
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Think I’d go with
Martinez
Cash. Konsa. Torres. Moreno
Kamara. Luiz
McGinn Tielemans
Diaby
Watkins
3-1 (Watkins, Diaby, Tielemans)
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Emery says he had doubts over tomorrow's starting 11. He's not clear on who he wants to play, but it's not the players he has doubts over, he wants to be "clinical" in his decision.
Sounds good, I guess?
I would be going as strong as it is possible to go tomorrow night without risking anyone with knocks etc. Would probably look at bringing Moreno on rather than starting him.
It could be a key game in terms of the competition and one we really could do with winning.
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I think he'll put Llneglet in as he looked extremely comfortable in the away game and Tielemans in a further forward role behind Watkins and Diaby.
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I think he'll put Llneglet in as he looked extremely comfortable in the away game and Tielemans in a further forward role behind Watkins and Diaby.
Tielemans was great in the away leg. If he does start him I just hope he doesn't do a disappearing act. Time for him to step up and force his way in or he could be on the casualty list come the January transfer window.
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Expect Bailey, Tielemans & Lenglet to get a start.
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Still got a couple spare tickets for this. One is an under 14 ticket. Free to a good home.
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Some research undertaken shows that Az are referred to Kaaskoppen or De Kaasboeren.
My understanding of Dutch is only basics but some help in researching online to discover they are called Cheese Heads or Cheese Farmers.
I'd rather be a Sugarbag.
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Regarding problems electronic tickets.
I have also had a few issues, getting the link to work inside the email.
If you have the Aston Villa app on your phone, log in and click on tickets. My NFC tickets popped up large as life.
Knew I’d seen it somewhere.
Sorry, did mean to put this in Ticket section.
:(
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Moreno possibly playing tomorrow and Duran back and available.
Positives. Need them and Ramsey back fully firing in time for busy late Dec schedule
3.1 to Villa
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8 games in December, bloody hell
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8 games in December, bloody hell
That's more days than I'll be working in December
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Some research undertaken shows that Az are referred to Kaaskoppen or De Kaasboeren.
My understanding of Dutch is only basics but some help in researching online to discover they are called Cheese Heads or Cheese Farmers.
Apparently there has been a cheese market in Alkmaar since 1365,
If they were english they would probably be morris dancers. Wankers.
(https://i.ibb.co/kMn4F0P/3d3b39b391b77c5c7b7d57979ed24afb.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kMn4F0P)
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I'm going with a bit of a reaction after the weekend so 4-0 and as dominant a display as we''ve seen all season.
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Lenglet
Moreno (HT change for Digne)
Bailey
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Go strong, get qualified quickly
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Anybody know if the club are honouring charlie aitken tonight , as us oldies need to pay respects to a great servant
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Anybody know if the club are honouring charlie aitken tonight , as us oldies need to pay respects to a great servant
A minutes applause prior to KO.
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Think there was talk of putting Mobile Phone Torch Lights on during the 3rd minute of the game as well.
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Lenglet
Moreno (HT change for Digne)
Bailey
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Go strong, get qualified quickly
I like that side, and hopefully a chance to get Kellyman some minutes will come up.
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Lenglet
Moreno (HT change for Digne)
Bailey
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Go strong, get qualified quickly
I like that side, and hopefully a chance to get Kellyman some minutes will come up.
He's injured, and also not registered for the European games.
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Lenglet
Moreno (HT change for Digne)
Bailey
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Go strong, get qualified quickly
I like that side, and hopefully a chance to get Kellyman some minutes will come up.
He's injured, and also not registered for the European games.
So you're saying there's a chance?
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All claret kit tonight.
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The match is on TNT Sports the old BT Sports.
You can get full TNT Sports access if you have an EE mobile phone contract.
You need the allocate your Inclusive Extra to the TNT option.
Easy to do.
Then you watch TNT for free on your TV via a stick etc.
You watch TNT on the Discovery + app.
You also then get the TNT Premier League matches and all the European games.
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All claret kit tonight.
Why?
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Their away kit is navy shorts with navy/blue shirts. Their 3rd kit is like a pale grey colour with black sleeves. Unless they're wearing that and our white shorts are deemed to clash, but wouldn't the away team have to change to accommodate that?
Edit - looking at their kits, they're probably a pretty good indication of what we'd get if we end the Castore deal and went with Nike.
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Their away kit is navy shorts with navy/blue shirts. Their 3rd kit is like a pale grey colour with black sleeves. Unless they're wearing that and our white shorts are deemed to clash, but wouldn't the away team have to change to accommodate that?
Edit - looking at their kits, they're probably a pretty good indication of what we'd get if we end the Castore deal and went with Nike.
Home team almost always makes the changes as in theory, they have all their kit options handy where the travelling team is limited. I think it is a ref's decision on the day on clashes like shorts / socks etc.
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Their away kit is navy shorts with navy/blue shirts. Their 3rd kit is like a pale grey colour with black sleeves. Unless they're wearing that and our white shorts are deemed to clash, but wouldn't the away team have to change to accommodate that?
Edit - looking at their kits, they're probably a pretty good indication of what we'd get if we end the Castore deal and went with Nike.
Home team almost always makes the changes as in theory, they have all their kit options handy where the travelling team is limited. I think it is a ref's decision on the day on clashes like shorts / socks etc.
Makes sense if it's a last minute decision, but surely they'd look at their kits, look at ours, and say we'll wear the away one. Unless it's all mind games! 😄
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8 games in December, bloody hell
That's more days than I'll be working in December
Yeah but less nights :(
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I think UEFA are a bit picky about what classes as dark shorts and light shorts. There was no real reason for Villa to wear dark shorts with the third kit in Alkmaar but presume the usual ones were classed as "light" and would clash with their white shorts.
Alkmaar are wearing all grey tonight so Villa are being made to choose the "dark" option again. Not sure why they have made the home team change but who says UEFA need to do things that make sense?
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We used to regularly wear our away kit at home in the UEGA Cup back in the 90s.
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We used to regularly wear our away kit at home in the UEGA Cup back in the 90s.
That was a rule back then, wasn't it? IIRC Uefa bought it in in the early to mid nineties, if kits clashed the home team changed.
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
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First Villa game in ages, first night game in even longer, first European game since I don't know when.
I'm awfully excited.
Come on my Villa babies!
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First Villa game in ages, first night game in even longer, first European game since I don't know when.
I'm awfully excited.
Come on my Villa babies!
Gonna be leaving for VP myself shortly. Hope you enjoy your evening out algy! UTV
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Ron Vlaar was in Albert Schloss last night.
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B team and fringe players please to save legs for Sunday
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B team and fringe players please to save legs for Sunday
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B team and fringe players please to save legs for Sunday
Yup why not, it worked well against Forest!
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Ron Vlaar was in Albert Schloss last night.
Terrible as I think he should have been in the Bull or Gunmakers Arms.
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
I like back to back games. I have read that back in day around Xmas there use t be home and away fixtures against the same team a day or so apart.
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Ron Vlaar was in Albert Schloss last night.
There's a video of him on the club YouTube at Villa Park talking about his time at Villa and how excited was when Villa were drawn in the same group as AZ.
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
I like back to back games. I have read that back in day around Xmas there use t be home and away fixtures against the same team a day or so apart.
And Easter!
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
I like back to back games. I have read that back in day around Xmas there use t be home and away fixtures against the same team a day or so apart.
And Easter!
Often with some strange results. For example, in 1935-36 we beat Huddersfield 4-1 on Christmas Day and lost to them by the same score on Boxing Day.
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
I like back to back games. I have read that back in day around Xmas there use t be home and away fixtures against the same team a day or so apart.
And Easter!
Often with some strange results. For example, in 1935-36 we beat Huddersfield 4-1 on Christmas Day and lost to them by the same score on Boxing Day.
Have you still got the programme?
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Don't get why UEFA do back to back matches, the logical order for us would be Warsaw, Mostar and Alkmaar.
I like back to back games. I have read that back in day around Xmas there use t be home and away fixtures against the same team a day or so apart.
And Easter!
Often with some strange results. For example, in 1935-36 we beat Huddersfield 4-1 on Christmas Day and lost to them by the same score on Boxing Day.
Have you still got the programme?
Oh, you witty little scamp.
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Ron Vlaar was in Albert Schloss last night.
I hope he bought Albert a meal first.
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Any rowdy antics reported yet?
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rowdy antics
Loved that goal he scored for Luton back in the day.
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Any rowdy antics reported yet?
Check on SHA for all the latest 'vile in town' updates.
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Any rowdy antics reported yet?
There's clearly something going on. Five police vans have just gone screaming down Witton Lane.....
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Any rowdy antics reported yet?
There's clearly something going on. Five police vans have just gone screaming down Witton Lane.....
Yep the kettles on.
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Just reduced the doughnuts in Tescos.
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Think I’d go with
Martinez
Cash. Konsa. Torres. Moreno
Kamara. Luiz
McGinn Tielemans
Diaby
Watkins
3-1 (Watkins, Diaby, Tielemans)
👍
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Announcements in Dutch at New St made me strangley proud in an odd way.
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Did you pass the Dutch 'pon the left-hand side?
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Waited 'till they'd all gone. I think the one I heard was for the stragglers.
I wonder of they do an announcement in that terrible burr that Stoke fans have when they go to the Sty or the unremarkable industrial unit on the Birmingham Road in Handsworth?
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Announcements in Dutch at New St made me strangley proud in an odd way.
However half a dozen girls standing on platform 8 wearing next to nothing was going too far to make them feel at home.