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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on November 05, 2023, 01:10:28 PM
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Moreno on the bench!
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As expected, good to see Moreno on the bench.
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Good to see Moreno back on the bench.
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Is Duran injured?
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Is Duran injured?
Toe I bleieve
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Nice and lovely.
FTF 8)
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A bit boring this unchanged policy.
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Is Duran injured?
Toe I bleieve
I heard it’s because he’s unhinged.
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A bit boring this unchanged policy.
It's what good sides do
Consistently
Continuity
Interchangeability
Come on you Villa boys
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Really need the three points today as I've promised Mrs RCF that I will watch Sofia Coppola's 'Priscilla' tonight. A win and I'd watch the Barbie film, anything less and I'm going to be a right grumpy barsteward.
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Moreno on the bench!
Fantastic news, he’s ace. Digne has been superb but Moreno is so good when we’re attacking.
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The only player I'm not 100% happy with is Torres, but have of course have no complaints with the line up. Confident particularly with a week's rest, it's gonna be 3 nil Villa.
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Is Duran injured?
A/c to Epl injury table he was 75% chance of fitness today. Moreno was 25%!!!
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The only player I'm not 100% happy with is Torres, but have of course have no complaints with the line up. Confident particularly with a week's rest, it's gonna be 3 nil Villa.
I think Torres has been excellent since the Brighton game.
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Looking good.
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Nottingham Forest v Aston Villa preview: Team news, head-to-head and stats - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67253241
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Win please.
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Risso or PWS? The fastest draw in the Wild West (Midlands)?
I hope we find out today, a few times.
0-2 Villa.
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Maybe Carlos instead of Pau to deal with the physicality of that striker they’ve got who’s decent.
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Luton and West Ham aren't physical?
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Tough game, but we'll win. It'll be like the Burnley game, maybe
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Let’s put this backup keeper to the sword.
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Come on Villa!!
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Just kicked off on my stream. 1 minute gone. FRF!
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1-0 Forest
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Oh for goodness sake!
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Crap. TBF Forest have looked good so far.
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another clean sheet gone
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Bollox
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Why did dougie stand and watch
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Another game without a clean sheet.
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um.. Doug?
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Risso or PWS? The fastest draw in the Wild West (Midlands)?
I hope we find out today, a few times.
0-2 Villa.
Depends if Risso is there and has Gooalll primed on his phone to send straight away.
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Shit.
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We just stood back there. Dreadful defending.
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FFS!
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Sloppy
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Shite start. We look half asleep. This will be a battle.
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Fuck me Dougie
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just leave him on own
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The goal, how much space did he have
https://twitter.com/TransferSector/status/1721167271991685174
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Gave him far too much space, disappointing start
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Poor start. Can't get neat them
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All Forest so far. Struggling here against their semi reserve side.
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Zaniolos decision making is shit.
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Cash to easily skinned, then everybody ball watching
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Cash got done for pace there. I've not seen that many times
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Risso or PWS? The fastest draw in the Wild West (Midlands)?
Like Rocky Marciano, Risso's happy to retire undefeated.
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SJM should have been watching him maybe
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Forest do have a habit of starting strong and then getting tired though.
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Zanilolo just gave up chasing the scorer. What the fuck does he actually bring to our team?
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We keep losing the ballin midfield. Zaniolo and McGuinn the culprits
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We’ve lost every Single 50/50 so far
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Zaniolos decision making is shit.
How long is the loan for? I think he's just a beat too slow at this level
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Zaniolos decision making is shit.
How long is the loan for? I think he's just a beat too slow at this level
Whatever it is, its too long on his showing so far.
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Looking good.
Perhaps not.
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I still am not sure on Zaniolo. I hope that one goal will change his loan period, he does seem to have a lot of skill and would have scored in previous games if it wasn’t for outstanding goalkeeping…
But his decision making… I don’t know.
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Why does Cash keep checking his runs?
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12 minutes of absolute shite.
I know Unai is educating us to this patient build up and walking football, but sometimes it means we never build up a head of steam, we never get going.
Ans that’s what’s happening here.
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Why does Cash keep checking his runs?
Their full back has his number.
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I said this would be tough - they’re better than their performances suggests. Need a big display now.
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Got away with that
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Kamara, please stop doing that.
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Why does Cash keep checking his runs?
Their full back has his number.
How would cash know ? He hasn’t tried yet
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That was bloody lucky, didn't look like a foul. Kamara absolutely asleep
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Need to get Zaniolo off asap. Cash not covering himself in glory either
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Got away with that
Yeah didn't think that was a foul at all to be honest.
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Bailey for Zan now please
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Zaniolo, lost ball twice and 1 shit header. C'mon!
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I get the feeling that today is going to be "one of those days..."
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If luton can score 2 here , we can
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Wake up Booby ffs
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kamara again ffs
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We look we've turned up after a night out on the lash
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It looks like we’ve turned up expecting an easy game and misjudged it totally.
Shocking so far
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Would have thought we would come out flying after Arsenal’s loss and a week off. Instead, we look like we did not get off the bus.
And Kamara needs to wake the frick up!
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This is the return of our bad half.
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I said this would be tough - they’re better than their performances suggests. Need a big display now.
Ads said there was nothing to worry about but then he always thinks the opposition is shite!
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They were at Hooters.
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If luton can score 2 here , we can
Yeah, one before half-time would be nice though.
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No point having 62% possession when we do fuck all with it.
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Making Forest look like a top of the table team.
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offside I know but cash put the bugger in
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Hmm, we're not "on it" today so far. I feel that when we start slowly we never really get into games. Hopefully we can turn that around today.
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Too slow.
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A least we have silenced the crowd. I think we have put them to sleep.
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hoping Zaniolo is that shit so far he ends up scoring still
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Need to get Diarby involved
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Ooh a shot.
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We are far far too passive. Get a tackle in FFS.
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Nearly a fluke for Zaniolo
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Need to get Diarby involved
Diaby needs to get involved
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Vicki Sparks on 5Live Comms is a pain in the head. Clinton Morrison not much better.
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We'll say that that was a deliberate shot, shall we?, Be kind...
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poor balll by mcginn then
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Zaniolo playing line a drain today.
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Oh come on. We’re better than this. What are we playing at??
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thank fuck we still got 70 mins
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Are our fans asleep?
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We've turned into the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Give it away, give it away, give it away now.
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Still think we will come back to win this. We’ve made Forest look way better than they are.
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better
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They're going man for man in midfield, McGinn and Doug are having a nightmare trying to turn.
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Cash is doing my fucking head in
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Are our fans asleep?
Same as the team… but they need to give them something to cheer about though
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Cross the fucking ball Cash, FFS.
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Our final third looks poor today. Totally unable to get Ollie and Diaby involved.
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Cash is doing my fucking head in
Me too
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Cash looks like it’s got into his head today a bit
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They started really fast, they will tire. We need to be calm and it will happen. We're building now.
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Cash is doing my fucking head in
needs to cross more
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Cash looks like it’s got into his head today a bit
Back on his old stomping ground, must be nervous, poor mite.
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diaby CB
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Fuck me, Cash finally decided to put the ball into the box.
His shitty impression of Shawn Maloney is pissing me right off...
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great tackle Kamara
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That's more like it Kamara
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Fucking around at the back.
The determination to play out, even when under pressure is so dangerous.
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Digne doing ok to be fair
zan half chance
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A better 5 mins. Digne looking good. Cash, not so much
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Looking a bit better now
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Digne getting a lot of good space on the left
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Diaby noooooo
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What the fuck was Diaby trying to do?
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should have just volleyed the fucker
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Cross the fucking ball Cash, FFS.
I have been shouting the same. What the fuck is wrong with him. He look petrifiied of taking on the full back.
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Unfortunately I think zaniolo is just out of his depth in this league
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C'mon Villa, a late first-half goal to sicken and quieten them just before the break.
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WTF was that Diabi!
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Forrest are a bit like palace, just pace and power very poor at passing it arround ...they'll run out of gas eventually and the gaps will appear for us.
I just saw a great bit of skill where their full back megged zaniflo then launched the ball into no mans land.
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Digne is being given more space than Cash, who's really being pressed.
But Zaniolo isn't really doing much to give Digne options.
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Unai not happy.
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Been in it more last 10 minutes, but don't look like scoring
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Unfortunately I think zaniolo is just out of his depth in this league
Agreed, he is not good enough. We badly need Ramsey back.
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Wtf is our problem today. Zaniolo has been shocking. This could get worse if we’re not careful
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Zaniolo getting some heat on here but he's done more than Watkins or Diaby so far. It's not like we've really put anyone through cleanly yet.
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El Maestro needs to come up with a completely different plan for the 2nd half as it ain’t working so far. Far too passive so far
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their final ball has been shit loads
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Zaniolo getting some heat on here but he's done more than Watkins or Diaby so far. It's not like we've really put anyone through cleanly yet.
which is true to be fair
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When Dougie is on it we purr. Not so far.
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Some dreadful decision making today
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To many players having a mares all over the pitch today
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luis weak in the middle
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This is similarly as frustrating as the Wolves match a few weeks ago.
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too fucking weak
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This is utter, utter gash
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Ref is letting them get away with a lot of pushes and shoves and we're struggling to cope with it.
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Better
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We're losing all the physical battles, unfortunately.
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Slightly better just now.
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that was the zanny chance
maybe should have hit it and not the extra touch
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Zaniolo just isn’t going to score, is he?
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Shit first touch from Zaniolo there.
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Never mind about scoring. Might be nice just to make a good chance. Zaniolo is never going to score is he?
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We don't have much height in the side, especially for corners.
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Shit first touch from Zaniolo there.
Yeah his first touch let him down there and made the chance much harder.
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My patience with Zaniolo is running short...
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5 corners so far and not looking dangerous at all. Come on Nanny, sort it out.
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We need to stop moaning a the ref that they are stronger than us, and start winning the fucking ball.
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Ref is giving us nothing.
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We are looking very dozy and they are much sharper than us.
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Zaniolo is a donkey.
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Dougie needs to vary his corners. That was two on the trot where he's tried to put it too close to the keeper.
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Usually when someone gets slagged off on here moments later they come up with a worldly.
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When Dougie is on it we purr. Not so far.
He's been very quiet, minimal participation. Midfield getting over run until now.
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We are far too slow
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This is a very frustrating watch so far, not very enjoyable, we’re not playing with the usual fluidity… not convinced we’re going to score based on this first half performance so far
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We always seem to struggle when we have a week off. It's like they forget how to play football and forget who their teammates are.
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JJ can't come back quickly enough, Zaniolo is a waste of a shirt
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Sixth corner.
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Has Watkins touched the ball yet?
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It's just not working for Zaniolo at the moment.
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Fuck me he's give us a free kick
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We have said it a few times this season, we are far too passive
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JJ can't come back quickly enough, Zaniolo is a waste of a shirt
Certainly a waste printing his name and number on too many.
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watkins why that ball ffs
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Digne is the only player to come out of this first half with any credit whatsoever.
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We really are shit at corners...
What does Austin McFee actually do?
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The early goal killed us. Forest sticking to a good game plan sitting in.
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fuck me thought pen there
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Usually when someone gets slagged off on here moments later they come up with a worldly.
Watkins has been shite.
Diaby's contributed nothing
Zaniolo voted for Trump.
McGinn hates kittens.
There, that should do it.
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No one wants to take any responsibility for the ball in and around their box.
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It was defo offside, no penalty.
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The early goal killed us. Forest sticking to a good game plan sitting in.
They won’t maintain it. If this is their tactic it will cost them. We need to be clinical just once and it changes the entire game.
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How lucky were we there with the offside. They look quick and threatening when they go forward. We labour to do the same.
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Wish we would have a shot or two
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now fucking wake up VILLA !!!!!!!!!!!
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They can't spend that much time..it is offside
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That has to be offside.
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Got away with one there. Need to get in at HT and reset, this has been poor.
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Phew
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Diaby is having a mare
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close there
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Im not sure what they are talking about with that offside.
There was no question.
None.
He was so offside he might as well have been in another stadium...
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sack of shit half
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cash needs to be scoring that
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Nah, not great at all.
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Get into them Unai, that wasn't good enough.
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Bad as we were,my God the ref.
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Fucking terrible half of football.
Digne has done ok, the rest have been shite.
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It's my own fault for thinking we would win
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We're allowed to make 5 subs so change half the team at the break, shower o'shite.
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Poor effort and far too many not at the races today. Disappointing first half given the opportunity to jump into the top four today. Can’t see Zaniolo staying on much longer, Luiz Mcginn and Diaby were poor, and Ollie is just a ghost today.
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Knew this would be bloody tough. It’s not really clicking away from home, need a big half.
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We’ve been that good recently , they haven’t had to have a Unai half time rocket.
Today they will.
I expect a better second half and Zinolo subbed in the break.
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That high-line is scary, a better side would be taking these opportunities. Going fwd, Forrest are sitting in, need Bailey for Zanilio who has been useless.
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They've been too strong for us.
Zanilio - its just not happening for him. Digne seems to be the only one that looks likely to make something happy.
Wouldnt be surprised to see some changes at half time.
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Too many of our forward players with no invention or movement. We seem able to find Digne and Cash with regularity but crosses into a crowded box just seem a bit speculative. Watkins and Diaby non-existent that half.
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Very poor. Hate to say it but Forest are working harder than us and they really should have taken better advantage of the times they've exposed our high line.
I like Zaniolo, but his end product is non existent
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front two have been shocking anyway. to be honest whole team needs a rocket at half time. think Bailey will come on.
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I actually think diaby and Watkins have been shit , zan was involved in alot more .
Digne has been good . Cash shit . the defence hopeless .
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Yeah need to get Bailey on, feels weird typing that but it's to his credit.
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Every so often, when ever we are on a good run, we still pull a shit performance out of the blue. This certainly falls into that category.
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Zaniolo, Cash and to a lesser degree Pau have been poor today. No urgency and not enough pressing either, other than Luiz we look like we don't care.
Bailey for Zaniolo and push SJM to the left. Or maybe Moreno for Zaniolo if he's fit.
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Lack of energy all round, Forest have got a plan that frustrates but we need to be much quicker and stop being knocked off the ball
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The most passive we’ve looked in a long time. Really need to inject some pace into our play. No good winning our home matches if we can’t beat teams like Forest.
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It’s like the Newcastle game at the start of the season. No aggression and losing every 50/50 complaining to the ref. This is this team’s Achilles heel at the moment: physical sides that want to play on the break.
Zaniolo looks completely lost half the time. Is he playing completely out of position or something?
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I have no idea what a foul is these days.
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Forest beating us all over the pitch using strength and speed on the break. Our midfield are not in it, both Kamara and Dougie sitting deep, SJM has done okay but he's been drawn into the centre where he's completely outnumbered. Zaniolo on the left is working with Digne but not doing much himself.
Diaby is every where and no where. Watkins has had very little service. Very poor half overall but the midfield is the problem.
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Zaniolo at fault for the goal too.
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I want to love Zaniolo, but he's just not doing anything of any note.
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The first half. WTF? FFS! Sort it out Emery!
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Luiz has been awful and his lack of effort to close down cost the goal.
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Bailey has to come on - it's all far too slow and pedestrian. Cash is too scared to beat his man so keeps passing back and Digne looks more likely to get sent off than actually put in a decent cross.
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Zaniolo shocking for their goal, failed to track their goal scorer. i want to see Luiz going to the ball too rather than his star jump on the spot that did nothing but block Martinez view.
Bailey for Zaniolo will be the switch. Maybe Tielemans for Kamara too.
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Aston Villa have won just one of their last 54 Premier League matches in which they went in at half-time 1-0 down (D8 L45).
Well that's a terrible stat.
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I want to love Zaniolo, but he's just not doing anything of any note.
He’s been utter shit today, pointless player. Don’t much like this 3-5-2 bollocks either. This is like last season, lots of meaningless possession and no end product.
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Kamara was incredibly lucky to get the free kick when he lost the ball on the edge of our box. For an excellent player like he is, he does that far far too often.
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We knew about their pace (Elanga, Awonyi) beforehand. We need to stop the ball coming through - Kamara is playing as a 3rd CB which means we're light in the centre of the pitch. Hence the view that Tielemans should maybe come on, keeping Digne and Cash high.
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If we are going to push Cash further forward, he has to deliver. Almost every time he got the ball, he checked and went backwards.
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Zaniolo and Cash off, Bailey and Tielemans on please.
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Aston Villa have won just one of their last 54 Premier League matches in which they went in at half-time 1-0 down (D8 L45).
Well that's a terrible stat.
Independent of that stat, I've been thinking all half that our way of playing really does not suit going a goal down.
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There's something strangely comforting about us being utterly shite. This winning all the time lark was getting too much for me.
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Bailey on for Zaniolo
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Bailey on for Zaniolo, second game in a row for Zaniolo hooked at HT. Baffling.
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Bailey on, Zaniolo off. A huge surprise says absolutely nobody.
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A shot!
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2-0
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Fuckingnhell
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Bailey on for Zaniolo, second game in a row for Zaniolo hooked at HT. Baffling.
Maybe neither of them can be trusted for a full game. Zaniolo runs aimlessly at players to make them tired, then Bailey comes on and kills them off. Together they make one half decent player.
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Big half this. A point at least is required.
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Fuck sake!!!!
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Oh for fucks sale!!!
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Bollox.
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Ffs
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Hey Emi, do you fancy saving one occasionally?
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Clown car of a goal
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Jesus that is all kinds of pathetic.
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wtf
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Fucking appalling Emi and that’s the game.
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Oh FFS
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Fuck off
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That’s almost certainly it. We’re not scoring here.
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Fucking hell!
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Well fuck.
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That’s piss poor.
No way that’s offside
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All over, onto next week
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Offside?
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Well done Emery. Another game thrown away
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There goes my prediction of coming back to win. This is really fucking shit.
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Absolute shite.
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We absolutely cannot write this off. Great teams come back from these situations.
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Offside?
Not even close.
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Martinez should have done better for both goals
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Well done Emery. Another game thrown away
How’s the manager thrown it away?
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what a kick in the pearls. cash is all over the shop, cmon.
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Thats a howler from Martinez looked like a save for the cameras gone wrong
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What the fuck do they do all week in training™?
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2-0 goal. Once again oceans of space for their player
https://twitter.com/tekkersfoot/status/1721183309210816551
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Fucking hell have they been drugged or something? Really slow and sloppy.
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What the fuck is wrong with Cash, he just doesn’t seem to be able to do anything right today.
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I just hope we score in the next 5 mins and can claw a draw from the jaws of useless defeat.
I don’t think it’ll happen. We’re well off the pace today. One of the most clueless performances I’ve seen for a while
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Well done Emery. Another game thrown away
Wow.
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Cash keeps putting us in crap situations... goal also
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They lost a 2 goal lead to Luton, we can do this
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You can’t play EVERY game at walking pace, with no power, no direction.
This is completely fucking rubbish
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What a fucking shambles. WAKE UP!!!!
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Bloody hopeless today
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Well done Emery. Another game thrown away
Wow.
It's the rain in British Columbia that does that.
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Let’s try to keep the score down for the goal difference. Their keeper, who hasn’t played until today, looks more like the balon d’or winner
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Well done Emery. Another game thrown away
It's a shit performance but that is complete garbage.
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How is that not a foul?
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What a clown show, fuck me
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We have suckered ourselves into thinking we can beat every one by playing walking football.
Forest, fucking Forest, have given us a lesson today.
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We’re just off it today, that second goal epitomises it.
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We struggle against these big physical sides.
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Bolt on free kick surely?
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This could be embarrassing if we’re not careful. Worst performance under Emery by a long long way so far.
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This could be embarrassing if we’re not careful. Worst performance under Emery by a long long way so far.
It already is...
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We struggle against these big physical sides.
West Ham got a thorough battering. Has nothing to do with size. It has to do with our mentality and today we are way off. This is a lot like how we didn’t show up in Warsaw. It’s been a very rare issue under Emery.
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typical watkins ffs
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There’s still a ton of time.
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Sitter missed
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Too busy fucking about doing Halloween parties in the week
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have to get Cash off
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you dont mind watkins missing his usual sitters when we are playing well but when playing shit , you need it going in.
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What a time to miss that Ollie
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Theor centre half hasn't lost a duel as he's been allowed to throw and go through everyone at will.
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We’re not scoring here.
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I'm wondering if there may have been illness amongst the squad this week, they are all so hopelessly lethargic.
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We struggle against these big physical sides.
We really do.
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This could be embarrassing if we’re not careful. Worst performance under Emery by a long long way so far.
least the media will shut up with their manure bollocks
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What an awful miss that was.
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Collymore looks rough. I had to laugh at the “top striker for both clubs” comment.
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Shame it always seems to take Watkins 3 or 4 chances before he scores. Don’t think he’ll get that many today.
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STOP FUCKING TIPPY TAPPING
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Cash off Tielemans on
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Fucking hell bailey
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Desperate stuff here
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lets call it a day
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lets call it a day
Good idea
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Oh, Leon.
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With finishing like that...ffs Bailey
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lets call it a day
not at all, get one back and they will shit themselves
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This is a bit of a come down after the last few weeks. It’s why we’re not a finished product right now, and need another couple of transfer windows.
Potentially, we’re great but this is a reality check. Other teams will struggle against the physicality of forest at their ground - but we really have been the architects of our own downfall today. It’s our mistakes, it’s being off the pace, it’s just a lack of presence and almost a bit of arrogance.
We’ll learn, but this lesson hurts a bit today. We’re better than this.
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Fuck this. I'm walking the dog.
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My brother will be unbearably happy!
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That shot sums today up.
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Sums us up today.
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They're quite happy to sit deep and let us try and play through, which we can't, or get it wide and cross it which they're dealing with easily.
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My brother will be unbearably happy!
A nose ?
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Just feels like Forest have been better and have a really good game plan to negate us and get at us. I don't think we've been that bad, just herded into looking shite today. This is just the style we play now, when it works it's glorious, when we can't score it'll be frustrating.
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Luiz is shocking today.
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Bailey….determined to fucking backwards
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Gifting them that second goal was a killer really. We aren't playing well, but still look capable of creating a chance.
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My brother will be unbearably happy!
A nose ?
No, Forest!!
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I’m off to lance a boil, has to be more fun than this.
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This is going to be virtually impossible now they can sit deep.
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At least I've got going to pick up the mother in law for dinner after to look forward to.
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Just feels like Forest have been better and have a really good game plan to negate us and get at us. I don't think we've been that bad, just herded into looking shite today. This is just the style we play now, when it works it's glorious, when we can't score it'll be frustrating.
They just sit deep, shove and kick the opposition a lot (and get away with it), and hoof long balls into the channels. It's fairly primitive.
It can work well if you concentrate, the referee is obliging, and your opponent gifts you an early goal.
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Too ponderous and slow. Sometime you need to just go direct.
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Far too many players have been off it today, especially going forward.
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This could be embarrassing if we’re not careful. Worst performance under Emery by a long long way so far.
No. Stevenage was. Theres been a couple of other League and Cup performances too. The other 90% has been almost flawless.
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Too ponderous and slow. Sometime you need to just go direct.
Like we did so often to no avail for year after year before Emery made us good again?
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This is nothing to do with Forest being more physical than us.
It’s everything to do with us being slow, ponderous, backwards and sideways.
It’s given forest time to get back, pack the centre of the field and stifle us.
We have not been (to use Unais own words) competitive. Not at all.
Walking football is bollocks in games like this.
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Just feels like Forest have been better and have a really good game plan to negate us and get at us. I don't think we've been that bad, just herded into looking shite today. This is just the style we play now, when it works it's glorious, when we can't score it'll be frustrating.
They just sit deep, shove and kick the opposition a lot (and get away with it), and hoof long balls into the channels. It's fairly primitive.
It can work well if you concentrate, the referee is obliging, and your opponent gifts you an early goal.
We do seem to struggle to create anything against opposition who sit deep, but I do think that's a bit of a disservice to them. They've created about as much as we have I think. Whatever we were trying today just hasn't worked at all.
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We’re playing a style that would be fine if we were winning 6-0
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We're still shocked from the women's performance
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I think the ref has been shit - they seem to give them a free kick everytime a player goes down - but no such luck for us
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I love Konsa. I’m getting fucking sick of him dad dancing to the half way line, hold the ball for 20 minutes, to pass it sideways 2 yards.
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Nothing they do gets deemed a foul
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I think the ref has been shit - they seem to give them a free kick everytime a player goes down - but no such luck for us
Again there fuck all
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Don’t think I’d blame this one on the ref. Our game plan today is shit.
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We should have learned from the Chelsea game that this ref gives us nothing. Need to cut out this sitting on the ground waving our arms about lark, and get back into the game.
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How many can Bailey miss today ?
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Today is on the players. Not Unai, not the ref or anything. Sloppy, slow, countless mistakes etc. It confirms that we're still very much a work in progress rather than already the finished product. We're heading in the right direction overall though.
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Probably need to get a defender on and move Konsa to RB here, as Kamara looks like he is going to get himself sent off.
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Hooray a shot!
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We’re nowhere near the finished article. The run we’ve been on for the last 12 months has been sensational. Today has been very poor so no sugar coating that. But days like this are going to happen. Just a shame as we could have got into the top 4 spots even if it likely would have been temporary. As it is we will still be 5th if things stay the same.
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If we get one , we’ll get two.
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Need another change. This isn't working.
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Bailey closed his eyes for the header
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Oh fuck off
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Oh dear Tielemans.
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Wtf youri?
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great shot youri
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Don’t think I’d blame this one on the ref. Our game plan today is shit.
I don't think anyone is blaming the ref but they have been allowed to be very physical and we haven't and it's made it very difficult for us to wrestle back any control after early goals in each half.
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Today is on the players. Not Unai, not the ref or anything. Sloppy, slow, countless mistakes etc. It confirms that we're still very much a work in progress rather than already the finished product. We're heading in the right direction overall though.
Yep nothing to do with the ref it’s all on us today whatever happens
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Fucking fuck me, it’s the big white rectangular thing with nets you’re aiming at.
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How can finishing be so shit? Youri... no pressure and miles over
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just need one, Forest are sinking further and further back
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Some dog shit being served up here. What the fuck was that.
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Only scored 6 away goals, apparently.
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The ref has been gash and so have we
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Need another change. This isn't working.
They've got us exactly where they want us, letting us have the ball and muscling us out when we start looking vaguely threatening
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come on villa play like Luton at least
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If we get one , we’ll get two.
Over how many away games?
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Plenty of time to turn it around.
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We’ve actually had some good opportunities but they don’t seem like opportunities because the ball has ended up nearer the river Trent than the goals
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doing an emi now their goalie
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doing an emi now their goalie
And so he should
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Their keeper has cramp. He’s had fuck all to do
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Surely that should be a penalty for the kick on Digne.
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Bottom line, they want it more
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Their keeper has cramp. He’s had fuck all to do
Other keepers can shithouse too.
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Surely that should be a penalty for the kick on Digne.
Not a chance
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Don’t think Liverpool will make hard work of their match later. Their keeper needs to come off for us to stand any chance of a goal.
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is there a finisher at the end of that rainbow please
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Surely that should be a penalty for the kick on Digne.
Not a chance
no, looked more straight on on the other angle
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I dont know why Emery s tactics isnt working today but there shoudnt be excuses to this - like we where unlucky with situations or that they are defensive. For both their goals we let their attack get through in our RB area and that ultimately let to the goals?
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doing an emi now their goalie
I wish he would
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Feels like we've created so many chances. Just nothing sticking so far.
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Di Maria milking it.
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Another chance missed
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absolute garbage Villa
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Worst shooting ever
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Fucking fucking hell Digne
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Kamara off, Carlos on
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It just isn't happening today, is it?
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I get the feeling that today is going to be "one of those days..."
Yep. Definitely one of those days...
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Shooting practice for the next week please.
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This is soo poor by all of our players
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Bloody hell. It’s not working today
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Fuck off Digne
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Poor from Digne. Whose been decent today
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We will stick 5 past Fulham at Villa Park and we will all wonder what happened the previous weekend at Forest.
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Quality is just not there today - we’re just off the pace.
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How many more shots over the top?!!
Absolute Blues.
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
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When has wearing grey been a good idea?
Ehh???
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
It’s not even grey, and the third kit was a good idea when we went to AZ a week or so back.
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
It's blue?
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This sort of thing always seems to happen when we go from 'under the radar' to the spotlight. It's like we can't cope with being fancied which suggests a mentality issue to me
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Gibbs white has kicked the ball away twice now.
They wasted ages on long throws.
Not a single booking
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
looked good against AZ who are better than forest
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
It's blue?
Yep
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I hate days like this. Boils my blood.
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
It was a good idea when we went to AZ a week or so back.
We could of played in vest and pants and beat those lot
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Digne had a decent first 45mins but has clearly been told to wind it and stop showing the rest up. He's been as shit as the rest this half.
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Far too wasteful in the forest penalty area.
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Only been listening, but it sounds like we’ve been awful and nobody at all on it?
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You've got to ask questions about the kit. When has wearing grey been a good idea?
I can think of Manutd getting spanked at southampton and England flapping it euro 96
Inter's was good in the late '90s. Although at that time, Ronaldo could probably have been playing in a wetsuit and still been brilliant.
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Too many players with shit control and passing today. Weird how it happens in some games. You have to credit Forest I suppose, although their constant shoving has gone unpunished. Yet whether one of players puts a hand on them they go down and get a free kick.
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I hate days like this. Boils my blood.
I can’t get that upset about it. Boiling my blood happened for most of decade when we saw some real fucking shit. This is a just one bad day sprinkled amongst lots of good ones under this manager and set of players.
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Donk coming on to save us
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how bad we need JJ
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Donk coming on to save us
3 0 forest then
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I feel really really shit after this.
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Today's positive has been the offside line.
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diaby wtf
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Donk on for Luiz.
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Turns out I actually hate days with no scorchios.
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I thought Villa upsetting the mood on the weekend was a thing of the passed. Oh well, I’m sure Emery will sort it out.
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dendonker hatrick come on
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Unai deciding to take 2-0 then with dendonker brought on
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Stop taking extra touches in box! When they have 11 players in there you're going to get closed down
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Donk will sort this out……..said no-one ever.
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Our finishing has been awful but we've created plenty of chances, no way we should be going away without a goal today, very frustrating game.
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final ball and control and decision making awful
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I guess Donk means Tielemens can go further up? Or just give Dougie five minutes back.
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Can't do basic football things
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Just as well they are so susceptible to offsides...
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Stop taking extra touches in box! When they have 11 players in there you're going to get closed down
That's the thing. Why so shot shy!
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We've played this like it was a testimonial.
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If they gave goals for catching opponents offside, we'd have a GD of +500.
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One of those games where we could play for the rest of the day and still not score.
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not one forest player would get in our team thats why its disappointing
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Forget testimonial. This was pure testicles.
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Muscled out every time...
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just not going to happen. Played ok, but we've been off the usual pace. Can't really complain about the result.
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To a man total shit.
It happens. On to the next game
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6 mins added time
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Bailey can't do shit playing away from home
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final ball ffs
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No birthday party for Unai tonight.
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One of those days. Frustrating.
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That pass from Torres was amazing. Best thing we've done today.
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It’s so bad up front it looks like match fixing
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missing moreno
digne had a great 75 mins but made the wrong final ball so many times last 15 mins
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Wtf was that from Digne?
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Fair play to Forest. They came out fast both halves and forced us into very uncharacteristic errors. Coupled with our own immense wastefulness they got the win. We will need to get back on track vs Fulham at Villa Park. No reason to think we won’t.
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On another day, we score half of these chances and we'd win 6-2. Just rotten that we've not even gotten one.
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Poor everywhere on the pitch.
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Some of The final balls and shooting have defied belief
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How many shots on target from us? saw at least 3 over the bar.
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What a load of wank
Ball ends up with our goalie after a free kick 20 yards from their goal.
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What a crap free kick
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They've played us man for man everywhere. Nobody has had any space and we've not created any either.
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What a crap free kick
I mean ffs
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Just give them a minute to reset every time we get the ball.
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They've played us man for man everywhere. Nobody has had any space and we've not created any either.
Our players should be better than theirs though, individually. Surely ?
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Full time. We go again.
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Fucking furious...
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They've played us man for man everywhere. Nobody has had any space and we've not created any either.
Our players should be better than theirs though, individually. Surely ?
Of course but sometimes it just doesn’t happen, that’s football and that’s what makes it a fantastic sport. Otherwise the better team always wins and what’s the fun in that?