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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on October 22, 2023, 03:34:52 PM
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https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1716099592792449143?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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I don’t know how to do the photo thing.
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Never mind
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Zaniolo starts
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Zaniolo is playing then. Good. Shows we have faith in him and that his head is ok to play. Come on Villa.
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Dean Smith is one of the pundits fantastic!
Great to see and hear him
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It really is set up today for Zaniolo to score. 3 points would be spiffing.
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Zaniolo to score twice today.
3-2 Villa with Watkins scoring the 3rd
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FTF 8)
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I know it's the graphic not the kit, but that design at the bottom of the West Ham kit actually looks really good.
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Zaniolo belter , Im betting on it
Villa 2 kit stealers 0
Zaniolo
Watkins
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On KUMB the Spam fans seem to think that player for player they have a stronger first eleven than us but looking at their side I can’t see it
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I met a nice old West Ham fan today. We were both waiting in a line for the toilet. He was polite and complimentary about the villa. I expect he’s on the WHU fan site slagging me off now, the ******.
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Need to make sure we don’t give away needless free kicks outside our box. But that’s a good line up and bench. West Ham are a strong side without a lot of obvious weaknesses. This won’t be easy.
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On KUMB the Spam fans seem to think that player for player they have a stronger first eleven than us but looking at their side I can’t see it
Maybe they mean in the tug of war or bench pressing sense.
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On KUMB the Spam fans seem to think that player for player they have a stronger first eleven than us but looking at their side I can’t see it
antonio better than watkins , ok
martinez worse ok
luis and kamara worse ok
Bowen is good but Im happy with our lot
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On KUMB the Spam fans seem to think that player for player they have a stronger first eleven than us but looking at their side I can’t see it
I'd say it's pretty evenly balanced - I'm guessing the result will go to the team that sets up and executes the best, and / or where a moment of magic determines the outcome.
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Dean Smith is bringing the positive vibes .
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or where a moment of magic determines the outcome.
Hi Steven.
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Fingers crossed.
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Loving this Sky Sport s coverage today it's like Villa TV this build up
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Do West Ham play with a back 4 these days?
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Loving this Sky Sport s coverage today it's like Villa TV this build up
Did you see Dean Smith on there?
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I’m unusually early to the ground today. I’ve noticed the starting 10 warm up separately than the subs. Kind of makes sense , I’ve just never seen it before
West Ham players were staying at Belfry last night. They were very accommodating to selfie requests.
I hope we smash them today.
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Zaniolo is playing then. Good. Shows we have faith in him and that his head is ok to play. Come on Villa.
We don't really have many other options. Be interesting to see where he plays. Really poor in his last two appearances. Digne likely to need help minding Bowen
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Tony Daley getting some coverage
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Odds on Digne and Luiz picking up yellows late on today?
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Odds on Digne and Luiz picking up yellows late on today?
Would prefer Digne not to given Moreno still isn't in the squad. Luiz getting booked at some point is a cert as we'll need our first choice midfield v Alkmaar and then we should be o.k giving Tielemans a start v Luton.
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Jhon Duran injured?
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Need a big game from Diaby, he's been quiet recently.
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or where a moment of magic determines the outcome.
Hi Steven.
😂
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Jhon Duran injured?
He played for Colombia late on Tuesday so must've picked up a knock.
Given West Ham's strength he'd have been a useful sub later on in the game.
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With no JD on the bench it will be interesting what we do if chasing the game. Although hopefully we won't find out as we'll be 3 up.
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With no JD on the bench it will be interesting what we do if chasing the game. Although hopefully we won't find out as we'll be 3 up.
Bert and Bailey double sub.
I also thought Carlos would have a chance of starting today so could always go 3atb and really push the full backs on later on as suspect it will be a cat and mouse type game for first hour.
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Odds on Digne and Luiz picking up yellows late on today?
Would prefer Digne not to given Moreno still isn't in the squad. Luiz getting booked at some point is a cert as we'll need our first choice midfield v Alkmaar and then we should be o.k giving Tielemans a start v Luton.
No offence to Luton, but there's a handful of teams I think we could manage with a makeshift LB against, and they're one of them. I suppose it depends on how close Moreno is to returning, but I'd rather play Luton or Forrest without Digne and Moreno, than Fulham or Spurs.
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Tim Sherwood really seems to love the Villa.
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Facking cahm on you Villa boys! Let's get our fackin' knees up and jelly these eels! Make Birminum praahhhhd of yas innit!
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warning there
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Lift the fucking flag early!!
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Terrible defending from Torres, couldn;t cope with Antonio at all. Sort it aht!
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This ref is pissing me off already ...
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Terrible defending from Torres, couldn;t cope with Antonio at all. Sort it aht!
Not like you to be critical of Torres. :)
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Watkins is so frustrating. Constantly makes runs into an offside position.
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Zaniolo getting into some good positions here. After the week he’s had it would be brilliant to see him finally score.
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Good save from the West Ham keeper.
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Terrible defending from Torres, couldn;t cope with Antonio at all. Sort it aht!
Not like you to be critical of Torres. :)
I don't want to be, but he just really struggles against physical attackers. Antonio is all over him so far.
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Great strike by Dougie.
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Konsa at the keeper
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Hopefully this isn't going to be a game where their keeper has the game of his life.
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Like that game when Kepa became Dino Zoff. And then shit thereafter
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Oh Ollie
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Terrible defending from Torres, couldn;t cope with Antonio at all. Sort it aht!
Not like you to be critical of Torres. :)
I don't want to be, but he just really struggles against physical attackers. Antonio is all over him so far.
Antonio has had 5 touches, that's nothing like enough to suggest he's all over anyone.
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bad miss
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Oh Ollie….
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Watkins, FFS!
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As Unai would say we are not controlling the game at the moment
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Oh Ollie.
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The ball through from Torres to Digne just before the watkins chance was exceptional.
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Ollie you’ve got to score.
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The amount of ollies misses are ridiculous
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That's one of the most dismal misses you'll ever see. FFS.
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Oh FFS!
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Brilliant from Konsa just there.
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Ezri is so classy
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Terrible defending from Torres, couldn;t cope with Antonio at all. Sort it aht!
Not like you to be critical of Torres. :)
I don't want to be, but he just really struggles against physical attackers. Antonio is all over him so far.
Antonio has had 5 touches, that's nothing like enough to suggest he's all over anyone.
After 12 minutes, he'd set up two chances.
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The ball through from Torres to Digne just before the watkins chance was exceptional.
Agreed. When you see that you know why emery loves him
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Ollie needed to score that there. With his confidence, you’d have thought it would have gone in too.
Still early doors in the game though
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The Ollie miss, sideways
https://twitter.com/Amerzaben1/status/1716119709181993200
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This is much better, all over them now.
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Did Aguerd's parents do a typo?
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The Ollie miss, sideways
https://twitter.com/Amerzaben1/status/1716119709181993200
That's criminal.
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I’m playing football in Lichfield this evening so can’t drink (and don’t want to today!!) but am bidding on lots of wine auctions right now.
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We're easily the better team but too many of our chances are crosses which they're dealing with too easily.
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65% possession to us, but we're not creating much in the way of good chances. Other than the Watkins sitter, obviously.
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We’re murdering them 0-0.
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We're easily the better team but too many of our chances are crosses which they're dealing with too easily.
I'd like to see Zaniolo have a go rather than playing it out to Digne every time.
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Zaniolo doing decent, well apart from that shot.
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We're easily the better team but too many of our chances are crosses which they're dealing with too easily.
I'd like to see Zaniolo have a go rather than playing it out to Digne every time.
Yeah… about that…
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Zaniolo trying too hard
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Get in!!
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We're easily the better team but too many of our chances are crosses which they're dealing with too easily.
I'd like to see Zaniolo have a go rather than playing it out to Digne every time.
Yeah… about that…
Ha! I take it back.
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Douigeeee. 6
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Cracking goal!
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Doooouggggiiiieeeeee!
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DOUGGGGIEEEEE!!!!
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YESSSSSSSFODVOJHDV
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Dougiiiieeeeee
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Fucking brilliant, he loves Villa Park!
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Lovely stuff - deserve this. Get a second please.
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Doug with his usual goal, Ollie with his usual assist.
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Good, unselfish pass from Watkins.
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Zaniolo has been great so far
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Goal
https://twitter.com/536bff8261/status/1716122473240895755
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Come on Villa. Boys..
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Lovely moves
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Great passage of play
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6 home games in row, he's turned into a truly world class player under Emery.
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Nearly a second
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Cracking goal!
okay, with a deflection!
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Watkins going close there
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Excellent play from Zaniolo and Watkins in the build-up.
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That was a fabulous move.
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Good effort Ollie.
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After a ropey start we're battering them.
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After a ropey start we're battering them.
Good do with a second while we're on top.
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Unlucky for Watkins with that, great build-up again. We've worked out how to make chances against them now so we need to push on and get another before half-time.
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Just me or does crowd sound quiet or a bit tetchy today?
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The Ollie miss, sideways
https://twitter.com/Amerzaben1/status/1716119709181993200
That's criminal.
Miss of the season.
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Goal
https://twitter.com/536bff8261/status/1716122473240895755
Yay!
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Dougie the first ever Villa player to score a goal at home 6 games in a row?
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Just now we’re playing some of the best football I’ve seen from a Villa team in years just fabulous to watch
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Nice free kick routine
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Lovely footy.
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We should be out of sight
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Reading the BBC live text, I suspect Blues fans have worked out how to use mobile phones.
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Dougie the first ever Villa player to score a goal at home 6 games in a row?
Certainly in the Premier League era, according to whoever this commentator is. He beats Yorke's record for that.
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Nice free kick routine
Just a shame McGinn snatched at it a bit.
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Reading the BBC live text, I suspect Blues fans have worked out how to use mobile phones.
That's why they are where they are?
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shit ref
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VAR penalty check for West Ham
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these officials are wankers
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No pen
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Free kick given
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Ward-Prowse .... oooh,errr
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What the fuck are they checking that for, twats.
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Paqueta is a good player
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Ward-Prowse and free kicks always makes my sphincter quiver
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Paqueta is a good player
Probably why Man City are still after him.
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Ha, shit free kick
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Cheating cockneys on the free kick
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No way that kick should be taken from there. Hit the wall anyway.
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VAR checks for a penalty, then the idiot ref lets him take the free kick from 6 feet further out.
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Poor from th eref letting him take it 2-3 yards further out than it should've been to give himself more time to get it up and down.
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We’ve got a bit sloppy here.
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2 mins added time
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Free kick closer in is probably harder to get up and over the wall. Further out is an advantage. Fucked it up anyway.
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chance there to make 2
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Terrible ball Diaby, what was that?!
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Torres passing has been sloppy.
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What did Unai shout there?
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get it in the box times running out
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Torres passing has been sloppy.
Apart from the goal and one lovely through on the left
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Done well but that last 10 mins was sloppy. Need to sharpen up, they’re a tricky side to play.
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Torres passing has been sloppy.
Apart from the goal and one lovely through on the left
I meant more when playing out from the back, but yeah he's had some gooduns as well.
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Poor from the ref letting him take it 2-3 yards further out than it should've been to give himself more time to get it up and down.
From up in the Trinity I can see the mark Konsa's slide made. It's a good 4 yards nearer the touchline than where they took the kick from.
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We are a top top team this season.
Some of the passing combinations to watch are delicious. This is what we were showing in pre season.
Hopefully we get another early in second half to wrap this up as West Ham could always scramble a goal in last minutes but we've made them look very average so far.
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We're doing great despite the ref being West Ham's best player. It feels like if we get another we will batter them.
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Patchy that half. Periods of good control punctuated by small periods of pressure from West Ham. I suspect Unai would like more control but Spam are no mugs
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Done well but that last 10 mins was sloppy. Need to sharpen up, they’re a tricky side to play.
Agreed, they've bought well in the main and play well as a team.
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Poor from th eref letting him take it 2-3 yards further out than it should've been to give himself more time to get it up and down.
I agree, but our players should have been screaming about it. Only Cash made a half hearted attempt to draw attention.
Really good first 30 minutes where we should have had one or two more. Last 10 to 15 we've allowed them to come back into it. Paqueta looks an excellent player
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Very good first half, kept Bowen, Paqueta and Antonio very quiet and created 3-4 decent chances ourselves on top of the goal.
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So far so good. I don't think we've actually got out of first gear yet.
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That was overall a decent first half. They’ve come to grab a point and hit us on the break. We need to grab that second and hold them off. But some nice play. Sometimes we are too static and predictable and get caught out with sloppy passes but overall controlled the game and tempo.
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Fackin' get in Daggie my saahn! 1-0.
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Very good half that but we should be two up. West Ham seem to be having too much joy down their left side though. Need to tighten up there but overall we've been the far better side.
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Table at half time looks really good with Luton, Forest and Fulham to come over next few weeks.
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We need another goal. Ward P likes scoring at VP.
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Ray Graydon has got a mention.
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Penalty.
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Oh hello
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come on now make it 2
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Pen!!
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Doug again
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Yesssssssss!!!!!!!!!!
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YESSSSSS!!!!!
DOUGIEEEEEE AGAIN!!
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Yeesss, nice one Dougie. Clean sheet please to prevent a nervous finale.
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Great penalty, is that 7 in 6 home games now for Doug?
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Konsa had a good game. Antonio ain’t had a sniff
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Great penalty, is that 7 in 6 home games now for Doug?
Yep. Smashing it
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keep it quiet but we are in the chumps league race
and with our injuries unbelievable
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Konsa had a good game. Antonio ain’t had a sniff
Shush!
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2-0 goal
https://twitter.com/smartballw/status/1716132702179508311
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Konsa had a good game. Antonio ain’t had a sniff
Shush!
Sorry Dad :)
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These bellend commentators talking about Douglas Luiz like he is too good for Villa...
******.
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Ooooooh Doug
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Yellow for Emerson, means he now gets a 1 match ban.
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These bellend commentators talking about Douglas Luiz like he is too good for Villa...
******.
If they really knew what they were on about they wouldn’t be sat talking about football. They’d be out there making a proper difference.
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These bellend commentators talking about Douglas Luiz like he is too good for Villa...
******.
Well they can go and fuck themselves.
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Shit. 2-1
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Crap.
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fuck
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Jammy twats.
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Another West Ham deflection
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Oh FFS
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Shit.
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Bollocks, gonna be a long 35 minutes.
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Lucky bastards
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2-1 goal
https://twitter.com/a371d20d2b/status/1716133804815896788
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FFS so soft - that’s twice Digne has got done by Bowen doing that.
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Shite goal from Bowen; poor defending on our left side
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A third to take the wind out of their sails would be nice.
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No need to panic
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Jammy fuckers
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Fluke
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Wake up ollie
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fuck off spitty callagher
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Jamie Carragher preaching about fair play - whatever next?
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We need to be brave and not fall back into a shell. They will come at us. We can absolutely score a third and see it out.
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Not great from Zaniolo; didn't win the ball so clutches his head.
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That's a poxy goal to give away and Pau turning his back on the shot didn't help.
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Carragher is a twat.
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Not great from Zaniolo; didn't win the ball so clutches his head.
there was an forearm to his head before he lost the ball
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Can't properly hear the commentary in this pub but it sounds like they're suggesting Zaniolo faked that...?...
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What the fuck was that Zaniolo?
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Carragher is a twat.
As is Peter Drury with his comment about fancier clubs.
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Zaniolo had a bet on a 60th minute stoppage.
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Not great from Zaniolo; didn't win the ball so clutches his head.
there was an forearm to his head before he lost the ball
I don't think so!
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VAR penalty check for West Ham
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fuck off VAR
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Well done Matty.
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Not given
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so fucking desperate to give something
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So a check for a penalty two foot out of the area and a handball that went nowhere near the player.
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Var can't wait to get involved, wtf were they even looking for there??
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gone off the boil here
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Right need to get a grip here.
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I'd be tempted to bring Kellyman on for Z; but it won't happen.
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gone off the boil here
Yep flukey goal has knocked the stuffing out of us and given them belief
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I don’t get why VAR has to initiate anything unless something is absolutely nailed on and blatant. And even then it should be to send the ref the monitor. The fact that it feels the need to look at the fringe incidents is precisely why it’s not liked and misused by the officials.
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Var can't wait to get involved, wtf were they even looking for there??
Handball.
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luca been poor this half
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We are making so many unforced errors
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Keeping possession for more than 10 seconds would help.
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McGinn seems to have disappeared.
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Wtf so sloppy
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Game getting stretched there, which is the last thing we want
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need changes here
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Must stop giving it away FFS.
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Get zaniolo off. Get Tielemanns on
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Emi being Emi.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ollieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Bailey warming up
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Ollie!!! Great goal.
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Olliiii
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What a goal
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Yesssss!!!!!!!
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sloppy from spammers gave us a break and boom
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OLLLLLIEEEEEE!!!!!
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Thank fuck for that.
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Bailey on for Zaniolo
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Fantastic goal.
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GTF in!
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Ace.
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Brilliant ball from SJM and a great finish.
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Watkins just purred past Zouma there.
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What a finish
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Foot like a traction engine, 3-1
https://twitter.com/SErivo78/status/1716138415161266207
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Yesss, thank feck for that!! Pleased for Ollie.
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Pick that out
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That's at least 3 goals scored in all our home games this season.... I think?
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Ollie is moving up a level.
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Superb ball from SJM.
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Needed that.
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That's at least 3 goals scored in all our home games this season.... I think?
16 goals in less than 4 home league games
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We've been so poor since their goal, but we only need them to make one mistake... Boom!
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Came from a poor pass from Torres
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John McGinn’s passing is so unappreciated. He has mastered that pass
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Needed that.
Most definitely, Weat Ham were knocking on the door.
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I feel sick
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Needed that.
Most definitely, Weat Ham were knocking on the door.
They created a few half chances but nothing really scary.
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Until then.
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We always give JWP loads of ammo.
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Dougie hat-trick would be nice
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Their keeper is a bit of a tit.
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I feel sick
So do I.
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Nearly another fluke for them
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I went to check on tea at 80 minutes, and I swear I've come back and there's half an hour left...
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"SMS Message: Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro! from Stephen in Birmingham
Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro!
Stephen in Birmingham"
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Tielemans on for Diaby
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When we start short passing, my pulse goes up
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Ings on for them.
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Diaby back to his best today
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Tielemens on for Diaby
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Luiz really can turn on a sixpence.
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Shame it would have nice to see a Bert cameo
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Diaby back to his best today
Agreed, very good game.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Baileyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Bailey. GTFI.
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Luiz really can turn on a sixpence.
In every way, in todays transfer market madness he is a £100m player.
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Wauvvvv
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I can see why West Ham fans think their team is better....
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LEON!!!!
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What a goal!
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Beauty!
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I don’t feel sick anymore.
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7 mins added time. We can score a couple more here!
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There's been some great goals today. Fucking loving this.
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This is insane, with Ramsey, Moreno to come back soon, and Mings and Buendia next season. Good times!
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Great goal, made an absolute mug of their centre half.
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Bailey goal
https://twitter.com/smartballw/status/1716142012842324431
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Where did 7 mins come from?
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"SMS Message: Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro! from Stephen in Birmingham
Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro!
Stephen in Birmingham"
Dear Stephen,
Fuck off bro!
Cheers.
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What's this not scoring shite?
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should have made it 5
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"SMS Message: Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro! from Stephen in Birmingham
Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro!
Stephen in Birmingham"
Dan: Re Stephen @ 18:09 … I’m not sure Man City Grealish gets into this team.
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Assist for Tielemans, that's good for him.
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Luiz leaving it late to get booked
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"SMS Message: Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro! from Stephen in Birmingham
Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro!
Stephen in Birmingham"
Dear Stephen,
Fuck off bro!
Cheers.
Amen! Also, this has been some game from us, we had to endure a West Ham revival where others may have wilted - we probably would have done until recently.
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Assist for Tielemans, that's good for him.
I was thinking the same. Similar type of pass he was playing second half against Mostar.
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Assist for Tielemans, that's good for him.
And he celebrated like a player who wants to be with us.
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"SMS Message: Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro! from Stephen in Birmingham
Grealish missing out on some great times at his boyhood club. Come back bro!
Stephen in Birmingham"
Dear Stephen,
Fuck off bro!
Cheers.
😂 Yep. People still pining for him. Pathetic.
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Bailey has looked up for it from the moment he came on.
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Assist for Tielemans, that's good for him.
And he celebrated like a player who wants to be with us.
Yeah, didn’t look unhappy
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Assist for Tielemans, that's good for him.
And he celebrated like a player who wants to be with us.
Just after the commentators had spent a few minutes talking about him being unhappy and asking whether he might leave in January, wankers.
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Second top scorers in the league after Newcastle. 1 more to go level.
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Bailey has looked up for it from the moment he came on.
Wish we could bottle it and use it on him in away games.
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Bailey has looked up for it from the moment he came on.
Wish we could bottle it and use it on him in away games.
I think Bailey deserves some credit for his attitude this season. He's essentially the only player that was "dropped" from last season, and yet he seems to still have a really good attitude about him, and he's scored a couple now too.
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What I’ve noticed is how happy all the players look. I know it’s easy when winning at home, but there js a real togetherness that I’ve not seen since the 10 game streak under smith when we came up. We are going places.