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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Ger Regan on October 08, 2023, 04:05:51 PM
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Frustrating
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Disappointing, frustrating, yada, yada, etc, etc...
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I’ve never seen so much shirt pulling in my life
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Disappointing but they made it a very scrappy game, and not the worst away point in the world. Still averaging 2 points a game this season.
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Really poor quality game that. Further proof that our strength in depth isn't where it needs to be, Zaniolo and Bailey both mediocre at best when they came on.
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We were due a draw, not the worst result given we went behind.
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If you’d have said to me ten pts from Chelsea Brighton Palace and Wolves I’d have been pleased - and I am. Onwards and upwards.
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Allowed ourselves to be dragged down into a dog fight. Doug uncharacteristically off colour, and I’m not sure Diaby was fit.
Only really showed intent after the red card and should have won it. Still given we weren’t at the races, and went behind, not the worst point given it was away.
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Wolves are a dirty, cynical bunch of cloggers with Neto up front. The cheating today was off the scale. Hwanker especially. And their fans are absurd - Evertonesque moaning and whining.
It was a shite game. We got dragged down to their level, missed a load of chances and should've had a penalty. We didn't win, but a point is still decent, especially with the other teams around us not winning either.
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If you’d have said to me ten pts from Chelsea Brighton Palace and Wolves I’d have been pleased - and I am. Onwards and upwards.
Doesn't really matter tbh today's result was two points dropped imo.
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Rubbish.
Both teams should be deducted points for that.
Max Headroom reffing the game didn't help matters either. Where do they find these numpties.
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Late pressure aside, I thought we were a bit shit.
We slid down to their unintelligent level first half. Mcginn was like a headless chicken trying to peck everyone.
Responded well to their goal, but I expect more from our so called big players. Too much hoof ball
Bailey should be sold in January. Not a hint of effort
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I’ve never seen so much shirt pulling in my life
2nd booking for Lamina for it, a few minutes later Toti, who was on a card did it to McGinn and no card.
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How many points is it for a draw ?
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blegh, imagine supporting that lot. Horrible “tactics” promoting everything but football.
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Hard fought point gained. Lots and lots of poor play with a smattering of decent stuff. Watkins had an off day but for a couple of efforts. The international break is a blessing I think.
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I’ve never seen so much shirt pulling in my life
Indeed and since when is a push in the back just as a player is about to shoot six yards out no longer a penalty?
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Good save by the keeper but Konsa should be scoring at the end and Watkins should have hurried that header.
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Probably fair.
We perked up a bit near the end after the red card but I don't really think we did enough to win that game.
First half was as cagey as you can get. End to end in the second suited them more really.
Shout out for the ref who clearly decided during the game pushing people in the back and pretty much taking the shirt off McGinn on a couple of occasions weren't fouls, that was a really good shout for a penalty but he was never going to give it after ignoring their claim.
When Luiz is below par we just don't function that well centrally. Annoying he got involved with silly dispute with Hwang and he lost concentration as a result. Shooting wildly from 40 yards after they'd just got down to 10 men was poor.
Take a point and move on. Other two games were draws and we're nicely on two points per game average so loads to look forward to over the next few months. A few sides around us will find it pretty tough to win at Molineux as they are improving a fair bit.
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Very sloppy all round and the worse I’ve see Dougie play in a long time. Wolves made it hard and we couldn’t match their aggression. They are very good at breaking up play and good on the counter.
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Neto is a quality player and the Korean guy is a right pain in the worst possible way. Not a bad point away from home.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
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Smirker can take his share of the blame for the early pre-match thread.
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I decided on a lasagne for tea. Nothing much else to say but a point is a point at this stage
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Have to say aswell Pedro Neto is a top player for them.
He's everything really we expected Bailey to be for us.
Far far far too good for them. Would love that sort of game stretcher for us in final third.
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Crap game, crap performance. Take the point and a much needed international break.
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Dragged us down to their level.
Foul count 19-9.
And only 1 red?
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A very poor spectacle. As someone mentioned in the match thread Wolves look like prime Pulis-era Stoke. And it now seems shoving someone deliberately in the middle of the back with a hand to put them off balance as they shoot is now a legitimate tackle. Terrible referee. Again!
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I’ve never seen so much shirt pulling in my life
Indeed and since when is a push in the back just as a player is about to shoot six yards out no longer a penalty?
That shouldn't even go to the Stockley Park blind school to umm and ah about it. Any decent ref or linesman clocks that straight away.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
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A thoroughly ugly game of football which in truth I didn't expect to see from our boys - but to be fair Wolves did their best to bring us down to their level. A bit leggy second half caused lots of passes to go astray and lots of decisions were the wrong ones. Oh if only Ollie's last second strike had gone in - the old gold faces!!
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Basically Wolves are over physical and shit but with about 3 good players. We were poor today but should have beaten them.
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It was ok. Just ok.
It’s been a while since we had a game like that.
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We should have started with a more attacking team.
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Lamb shank for me - in honour of Neto's late effort.
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Hitting the post in the last attack has spoiled it for me. If only…
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We’re not going to play brilliantly every game. And consistently having midweek games is something we need to get used to and we need to develop a squad to deal with it. Getting a point from a shit game is still decent return. Wolves did what they needed to do get their point and we didn’t quite have it today to win it. As much as we nearly did at the death.
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I was frustrated by the amount of crosses. Cross after cross after cross yet when the team played through them they looked much more dangerous.
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Far too much horizontal play from them (ie falling over as if poleaxed and taking ages to get up) OK we had 12 minutes extra but I felt the draw was coming in my bones. Thank God we don't have to support them every week.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
Bit harsh. He's always involved but his decision making was a bit off. Still very close for winning it right at the end.
Did we really need the three CBs to finish the game? I dunno. Wolves just gave up crossing the halfway line as soon as the red happened so felt like 5 minutes of Traore was needed to see if he could conjour up a goal out of nothing.
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I felt the physical presence of Duran might have ruffled their feathers a bit but then again Unai is a more astute manager than I am.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
Bit harsh. He's always involved but his decision making was a bit off. Still very close for winning it right at the end.
Did we really need the three CBs to finish the game? I dunno. Wolves just gave up crossing the halfway line as soon as the red happened so felt like 5 minutes of Traore was needed to see if he could conjour up a goal out of nothing.
He was hardly involved at all today, I've rarely seen a sub have such a minimal effect on a game.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
Bit harsh. He's always involved but his decision making was a bit off. Still very close for winning it right at the end.
Did we really need the three CBs to finish the game? I dunno. Wolves just gave up crossing the halfway line as soon as the red happened so felt like 5 minutes of Traore was needed to see if he could conjour up a goal out of nothing.
Good point.
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Not unhappy with that. If you don't win ,make sure you don't lose. A game that reminded me of the '70s encounters.
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https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1711034601806717246?t=3XOJp8wsfDx1GLOlGqswKg&s=08
Says a lot if The Prof gets upset.
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Was thinking a point is a fair result after 85 minutes or so, but created 3 or 4 great chances through injury time, and we really should have won it.
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It was like a 1980s football match, long diagonal punts, off the ball skirmishes and whistle happy ref. not a game for the terrace view lower grounds lot.
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Man City would have been chuffed to come away with a point last week from Molyneux.
We got one and are disappointed.
Shows how far we have progressed.
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Had a very busy schedules. Both teams coming off excellent recent league wins.
I’ll take a point as we ain’t got a great record there.
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Looked tired, but had the chances to win against an absolute rank bottom six side.
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Torres lack of pace is still a worry but made up for getting skinned with his goal. Not sure how we didn't win that in the end.
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Hitting the post in the last attack has spoiled it for me. If only…
Not the first time we've missed a last minute chance against wolves. Bloody annoying.
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It needed Carlis to channel his inner Brendan Ormsby and deck one of their forwards.
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I don't think we did enough during the game to deserve the three points, but missing those two chances in the last minute makes it feel like two points lost. I don't blame Konsa, struck it reasonably well and on targer, but Ollie can't be missing from 8 yards out with a free header.
I was also stunned the shove in the back while Ollie was shooting didn't get the ref sent over to the monitor. As soon as I saw a replay I was convinced it would be a penalty.
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Man City would have been chuffed to come away with a point last week from Molyneux.
We got one and are disappointed.
Shows how far we have progressed.
No it doesn't. Man City have a random shit result against a team every year, this season it was Wolves.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
Bit harsh. He's always involved but his decision making was a bit off. Still very close for winning it right at the end.
Did we really need the three CBs to finish the game? I dunno. Wolves just gave up crossing the halfway line as soon as the red happened so felt like 5 minutes of Traore was needed to see if he could conjour up a goal out of nothing.
He was hardly involved at all today, I've rarely seen a sub have such a minimal effect on a game.
Did your river cut out, he got on the end of the corner and it agonisingly drifted across the goal and past the post.
I know he didn't have as much time but Tielemans is pretty underwhelming isn't he? I'm sure at Leicester he used to be able to drive into space but now it just seems a case he moves on the ball as soon as he gets it.
When playing 10 men it's useful to have a central player who can do that to create extra space and McGinn's the only one capable and he was having his shirt taken off most of the time.
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I’d break the bank for Neto. Top player and would massively improve us in wide positions.
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Disappointing we didn't get the winner with the 12/13 mins added time and the extra man. But we certainly created enough chances late on, Watkins very unlucky, maybe Luiz and Konsa should have done better with their chances. We looked a different team when McGinn pushed up next to Watkins. First half was forgettable but thought second was entertaining. Wing back setup didn't really work today. Wolves would be a very decent team if they had a striker. Hwang and Neto caused us a lot of problems.
Martinez 7 - solid yet again
Cash 5 - after a huge impact midweek he was disappointing I thought, took the wrong option multiple times in good areas
Konsa 7 - much better second half and nearly forced winner
Carlos 6 - lack of pace in his passes a real frustration, though he was struggling with about 30 to go so hopefully no I'll effects
Torres 6 - nice finish for goal but passing terrible in first half and inability to defend against pace embarassing
Digne 7 - solid again really, maybe expected more from his deliveries at times
Kamara 7 - solid display after injury and tracked Neto brilliantly when Carlos was done
Luiz 7.5 - caught in possession for build up to their goal but still best midfielder on view, disappointed maybe two of his shots got blocked
McGinn 7 - stuck into everything in midfield but showed a lot more quality when pushed further up
Watkins 7 - quiet first half but forced one brilliant save, great assist and almost the winner
Diaby 4 - utterly anonymous
Zaniolo had a shocking first 15 mins or so, finished strongly after switching with McGinn, Tielemans looked sharp, Bailey was ok. Thought Emery could have brought on Traore maybe too last 15 mins.
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Man City would have been chuffed to come away with a point last week from Molyneux.
We got one and are disappointed.
Shows how far we have progressed.
No it doesn't. Man City have a random shit result against a team every year, this season it was Wolves.
Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool all lost at Molineux last year. Newcastle scraped a 1-1 in the last minute.
They are improving so it's in our interest they take points off those again and Man. United. Think they said on comms they've got Newcastle next up at home so that will be interesting one as they'll be playing them off a CL game.
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I’d break the bank for Neto. Top player and would massively improve us in wide positions.
yep , way too good for them
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Only one team can to win that game today.
With a little more composure we hammer them today, especially last 10 mins.
Sa and Neto are their only decent players.
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A point will do. They are crap, but they always somehow bring us down to their level, sorry #levels, when they play us. And Sa always looks like the best keeper in the world when we play them, too.
I have a feeling too that poor Zaniolo will never score a goal for us.
I hope to be proven wrong but so far in a Villa shirt, Zaniolo has been all fart and no poo
Bit harsh. He's always involved but his decision making was a bit off. Still very close for winning it right at the end.
Did we really need the three CBs to finish the game? I dunno. Wolves just gave up crossing the halfway line as soon as the red happened so felt like 5 minutes of Traore was needed to see if he could conjour up a goal out of nothing.
He was hardly involved at all today, I've rarely seen a sub have such a minimal effect on a game.
He was terrible when he first came in but finished strongly. Inches away from the winner, forced the second yellow for the Wolves player. Incredibly slow though and ideally we need another version of Diaby when he isn't firing. Buendia also had a lot more about him on all evidence so far.
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I’d break the bank for Neto. Top player and would massively improve us in wide positions.
yep , way too good for them
They didn’t get the ball to him that often but when they did he was dangerous, good player.
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Not a good game to watch but the sun was out.
We looked tired but we were the better team and you can tell how far we’ve come.
I think it was their tactic to put 11 behind the ball and go down holding their heads for 5 minutes.
It’s an away point and we’d have lost this before Emery arrived. We are definitely moving in the right direction apart from the defending for their goal.
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Only saw last 10 mins or so and we dominated that part of the game and should of won. Still its a point away from home and we haven’t lost in the league since early September. 5th and not losing very often are great habits.
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Zaniolo is still getting used to the Premier League. It can take 6 months to get up to speed. Still a draw is good although we deserved to win. More possession, more shots, more corners than them. They beat us on fouls though, 19 against our 9!
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We never seem to beat those fuckers.
Probably the worst I've seen from Diaby. Looked like he was still carrying an injury though s I'll give him some leeway.
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Diaby and Kamara were flagging, think they was only ever going to do an hour.
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Though the draw was a fair result. I thought they were very solid and made it difficult for us. We looked tired for the first time today - Diaby, Doguie etc all off there best.
Think the challange is the squad players we have are either injured (Ramsey & Emi would) or just haven't found any form Tielemans, Zaniolo.
With Zaniolo - I am slightly worried that will have to buy him - dont we if he plays enough games.
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Not a great game or performance really, but we had three great chances in injury time to win it. We had a few too many off the pace and a few who just didn’t look up for the physical nature of the game, so a point was not a bad result in the end I suppose.
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Frustrating, but that's what they set out for; trying to nick a win.
We didn't have enough to break them down but we're the better team.
The constant fouling, and trying to get McGinn was ridiculous, and lots of free-kicks that should have been given, weren't. Watkins went to ground a few times and in the middle of the park would have been given. Including the shove. Why VAR didn't pick it up is nuts.
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The constant fouling is a Man City/Pep trick that ironically worked against them last time out. The rotated their fouling too because in truth they didn’t have the individual quality to beat us. But it worked and we didn’t display the quality to beat them. It’s going to be like that for us against lesser sides who have a very different agenda to us. We need to improve and buy appropriately to counter that.
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I think us being in the conference league had some impact on today's performance. Moving the game to Sunday doesn't make any difference.
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A very poor spectacle. As someone mentioned in the match thread Wolves look like prime Pulis-era Stoke. And it now seems shoving someone deliberately in the middle of the back with a hand to put them off balance as they shoot is now a legitimate tackle. Terrible referee. Again!
We should demand a replay for incorrect VAR decision lol
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Decent away point.
We would have won that if we had JJ and Buendia and Moreno on the pitch.
The new players are not quite at their level. Yet.
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Frustrating, but that's what they set out for; trying to nick a win.
We didn't have enough to break them down but we're the better team.
The constant fouling, and trying to get McGinn was ridiculous, and lots of free-kicks that should have been given, weren't. Watkins went to ground a few times and in the middle of the park would have been given. Including the shove. Why VAR didn't pick it up is nuts.
The commentary on my feed , compared our penalty appeal to theirs with Neto one , not a chance 😳
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I’d break the bank for Neto. Top player and would massively improve us in wide positions.
yep , way too good for them
Yeah, he's an absolute menace
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I think Neto is very good.
But he was helped today by Pau’s lack of pace.
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The boys put in a tough shift on Thursday so not losing today in a very good result coupled by getting straight back in it after going a goal down. It will do for now.
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The boys put in a tough shift on Thursday so not losing today in a very good result coupled by getting straight back in it after going a goal down. It will do for now.
Yeah that's how I feel.
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True but it still feels like two points dropped than one gained.
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We were due a draw, the champions lost there last week, we were the better team but just couldn't get things moving fluidly in the final third, it happens. No problem, on we go.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/wolves-vs-a-villa/report/482670
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No sign of the penalty shout here.
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Probably one of the most ‘un’ Unai performances since he came to us.
It’s been a long time since I saw us slow to react to situations and give the ball away so sloppily.
Ollie seemed 2 seconds behind the play, Bouba kept holding the ball longer than necessary, Torres gave the ball away a lot.
It’s a good job Wolves are shit.
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I think Neto is very good.
But he was helped today by Pau’s lack of pace.
To be fair he regularly does that to many players.
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I think Neto is very good.
But he was helped today by Pau’s lack of pace.
To be fair he regularly does that to many players.
Seems like Neto hit the gym over the summer. Lot fitter and stronger. At same time he isn't that particularly quick, that defending from Torres for the goal was embarrassing. Neto did same to Carlos not long after but Kamara did brilliantly to get back. Playing three centre backs with two of them incredibly slow on the turn isn't a great combination.
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We made Dawson look like a good defender
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Probably one of the most ‘un’ Unai performances since he came to us.
It’s been a long time since I saw us slow to react to situations and give the ball away so sloppily.
Ollie seemed 2 seconds behind the play, Bouba kept holding the ball longer than necessary, Torres gave the ball away a lot.
It’s a good job Wolves are shit.
Many times we just seem to lob the ball in and hope, Wolverhampton remind me of the Albion many years ago, but happy generally overall with the point
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How the hell was that not a penalty for the blatant push on Watkins, and why are we not going apeshit and demanding a VAR review?
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I think Neto is very good.
But he was helped today by Pau’s lack of pace.
To be fair he regularly does that to many players.
Digne shoukd have been a lot closer to him for the cross that led to the goal.
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Probably one of the most ‘un’ Unai performances since he came to us.
It’s been a long time since I saw us slow to react to situations and give the ball away so sloppily.
Ollie seemed 2 seconds behind the play, Bouba kept holding the ball longer than necessary, Torres gave the ball away a lot.
It’s a good job Wolves are shit.
Many times we just seem to lob the ball in and hope, Wolverhampton remind me of the Albion many years ago, but happy generally overall with the point
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The boys put in a tough shift on Thursday so not losing today in a very good result coupled by getting straight back in it after going a goal down. It will do for now.
Yeah that's how I feel.
Yep we’re not going to click every week. It’s the type of game where we just need to get something, and we did. We nearly got 3 points.
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If we continue at 2 points per game, a 76 points total would be our best season since we won the league.
Lot’s to like about this season so far, especially having played 5 away and only 3 at home.
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We made Dawson look like a good defender
In all fairness he's been underrated for a long time. He had Haaland completely in his pocket last week
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I had a bad vibe about this game before kick off, so a point will do me, especially from a losing position.
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That was well finished by Pau for the goal looking back.
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We made Dawson look like a good defender
In all fairness he's been underrated for a long time. He had Haaland completely in his pocket last week
Was going to say the same, he's decent.
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How the hell was that not a penalty for the blatant push on Watkins, and why are we not going apeshit and demanding a VAR review?
Watching the replays of it at the time, I'm not sure why it wasn't given either. Watkins was in on goal and the push from behind completely put him off balance and made the chance much more difficult. If Watkins had not got the shot off then maybe it would have been scrutinised more by the officials.
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How the hell was that not a penalty for the blatant push on Watkins, and why are we not going apeshit and demanding a VAR review?
Watching the replays of it at the time, I'm not sure why it wasn't given either. Watkins was in on goal and the push from behind completely put him off balance and made the chance much more difficult. If Watkins had not got the shot off then maybe it would have been scrutinised more by the officials.
It's one of those where he's been penalised for trying to carry on, if he flops straight to the ground it's a penalty all day long.
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Having a bruising local away Derby as the 3rd game in 8 days, with a poor ref and continued fouling by the dingles I suppose we should be unhappy with a draw.
Should of killed after sending off.
Clearly Diaby not fit and we looked out of sorts at times. Showed great determination to get straight back in it.
Decent rest now for most of them
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Did the shove on Ollie go to VAR? I don’t remember seeing the check.
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We made Dawson look like a good defender
Agreed. I had to go and check to see how old he is as he's been around forever. Shocked to discover he's only 33.
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Ref helped him. Was getting away with pushing and pulling Watkins a fair bit.
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He might be a journeyman but Dawson is a wiley defender. We were linked with him heavily a couple of transfer windows ago. Would have preferred him to Carlos to be honest.
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Did the shove on Ollie go to VAR? I don’t remember seeing the check.
I assume they would have automatically checked it but as Goldenballs said, it's one of those where he's been penalised for trying to carry on, if he flops straight to the ground it's a penalty all day long.
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We’ll never know for sure but don’t think the rotation of players on Thursday helped too much today. Glad to see that Kamara and Diaby made the starting eleven although Diaby didn’t seem to get too involved today.
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Sky sports obviously consider the Watkins not worthy of including in their highlights. Bet it would be included if it was Liverpool
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Anyone that has played football would know that was a definite penalty. Obviously the referee never has!
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Sky sports obviously consider the Watkins not worthy of including in their highlights. Bet it would be included if it was Liverpool
If it was Liverpool, there would be a motion at Labour Conference.
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O'Neill (no, not that one) said in his post-match interview with Sky that it was a pity to concede a careless equaliser as Villa are a passive side that don't press ?!
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Sky sports obviously consider the Watkins not worthy of including in their highlights. Bet it would be included if it was Liverpool
They would be demanding a replay.
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For anyone who hasn't seen it
https://twitter.com/maxavfclove/status/1711038068067627135
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That one save from Sa tipping the Watkins effort over so annoying what a goal that would have been
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One of those games today. We looked disjointed. Wolves made it hard, so a point was fair. Feels like a game we lose before UE.
Squad rotation becomes less of an issue the more we employ it. Much like playing out from the back, practice will make us better.
16 points from 8 games is a fantastic return, especially with a wounded squad.
UTV
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It was difficult it get anything going given the repetitive tag team fouling that was one of Wolves's key tactics. I was amazed it was only 19 fouls. Another tactic was to find Neto, which in fact isn't a bad one.
We weren't particularly good, but we were still the better side and Wolves had settled for a point some time before the red card.
Diaby was definitely off the pace today and despite not being quite at his best, I still thought Luiz was our most composed player.
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Gary O'Neil is a bitter little twat isn't he? Fucking balloon has gone all Lee Johnson.
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Gary O'Neil is a bitter little twat isn't he? Fucking balloon has gone all Lee Johnson.
he's a moron of the highest order
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Have to disagree with one or 2 posts stating Sa and Neto being their only 2 decent players. Draw about right and I’d find it hard to say tonight which of our players caused them any grief today.
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Have to disagree with one or 2 posts stating Sa and Neto being their only 2 decent players. Draw about right and I’d find it hard to say tonight which of our players caused them any grief today.
Somedo , lemina , Dawson , Cunhe, Ant Noire , all very decent players
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Have to disagree with one or 2 posts stating Sa and Neto being their only 2 decent players. Draw about right and I’d find it hard to say tonight which of our players caused them any grief today.
Somedo , lemina , Dawson , Cunhe, Ant Noire , all very decent players
Black ant?
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
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For anyone who hasn't seen it
https://twitter.com/maxavfclove/status/1711038068067627135
Think Watkins should have scored that one anyway. Didn't realise he was so close to goal watching it live. Went for the big swing rather than a side foot across goal. If he properly falls over/dives then he gets the penalty for sure.
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
Definitely 2 points dropped and a gap opening to the top
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He might be a journeyman but Dawson is a wiley defender. We were linked with him heavily a couple of transfer windows ago. Would have preferred him to Carlos to be honest.
In a low block he's very good indeed. Kilman was the one who had an error in him and we should've pressed him far more than we did.
Diaby looked like he hadn't trained all week bar perhaps a light session yesterday. Guess with the two week break and him not making the French squad one more it was a gamble we were happy to take.
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
I have no problem if they do similar v Man. United and Spurs as I'd fancy them to get at least a draw v one of them. Man. United beating them on the opening day was one of the least deserved results you'll see all season so Wolves can be useful for that reason.
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Just spoke to a dingle work colleague who’s a ST holder and he made me laugh. Claimed that we’re experts in the dark arts under Unai with McGinn constantly niggling at people. Prat
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
Definitely 2 points dropped and a gap opening to the top
We are 1 point off 4th and 4 points off 1st.
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It’s a big gap….
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It’s a big gap….
It is bring back Lambert Big Eck and Sherwood. We'd be top
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
I have no problem if they do similar v Man. United and Spurs as I'd fancy them to get at least a draw v one of them. Man. United beating them on the opening day was one of the least deserved results you'll see all season so Wolves can be useful for that reason.
Yeah their home form is vital to them staying up. Packing the defence, sitting deep and looking for the long hoof to Neto in the channel will cause others problems.
We weren't anywhere near our best, so I'll take a point. We're averaging 2 points a game, sitting 5th and with a couple of our best players to come back in Moreno and Ramsey. There's a gap and others should be mindful of it getting bigger.
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I'd have taken 5th after 8 games if offered that before the season started. We've won as many games as Liverpool have, who are top 4 and scored more goals than any team in the top 4. We are doing ok and the game today was a typical derby against a niggly team, fighting for their future in this league. People writing off Zaniolo and Darby in other threads is absolutely crackers.
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
Don't go into football management then! Are you actually dissing Emery?
We drew. This is not the end of the world.
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
Didn't really work today. McGinn out of position again too. Think our squad needs a lot of strengthening in January. Digne had a decent game but thought we missed likes of Mings, Ramsey and Buendia today. For starters, there isn't a hope Neto would have taken Mings down the line today like he did to Torres and Carlos. Emery doesn't rate the likes of the Donk, Chambers or Traore, another injury or two and we will be reliant on them.
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Does anybody really think we will spend in January based on our past?
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If we end up with the RB equivalent of Moreno that'll do
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
Don't go into football management then! Are you actually dissing Emery?
We drew. This is not the end of the world.
you know what I’m not going to go into football management now because of you
you rotter
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Archetypal Derby game I suppose . Ugly , gritty , neither team wanted to lose but to be honest I think we left a bit out there today
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
Don't go into football management then! Are you actually dissing Emery?
We drew. This is not the end of the world.
you know what I’m not going to go into football management now because of you
you rotter
I didn't mean to smother your dreams. I apologise effusively. Can you just manage The Knuckledraggers though? XD
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Does anybody really think we will spend in January based on our past?
Maybe if we are on course for top 4 we might.
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
Except we had 15 mins v 10 men
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
For starters, there isn't a hope Neto would have taken Mings down the line today like he did to Torres and Carlos.
Neto has ran a lot of defenders ragged down the line this season and if Wolves actually could finish he might even have been in double figures in assists.
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
Except we had 15 mins v 10 men
We really should have got the winner tbh.
We're still in a great position of course. But if you want to achieve something really special, that was an opportunity today.
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
Except we had 15 mins v 10 men
We really should have got the winner tbh.
We're still in a great position of course. But if you want to achieve something really special, that was an opportunity today.
We did carve out the chances - Zaniolo Konsa Watkins , just wouldn't go in . Frustrating as it does feel like a missed opportunity
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
We did lose it last season.
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After a few hours post-game reflection today's game is one we would have lost last season. In fact it was very like the game there last season in which we never really looked like scoring.
Except we had 15 mins v 10 men
We really should have got the winner tbh.
We're still in a great position of course. But if you want to achieve something really special, that was an opportunity today.
TBH, we almost did as watkins did everything right but misjudged it by 3inches.
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Considering our injuries, 5th and averaging 2 points a game is not to be sniffed at.
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BBC Stats in this game.
Possesion
Home 46% Away 54%
Shots
Home 8 Away 18
Shots on Target
Home 3 Away 4
Corners
Home 2 Away 10
Fouls
Home 19 Away 9
Last Season
Possession
Home 38% Away 62%
Shots
Home 6 Away 16
Shots on Target
Home 2 Away 3
Corners
Home 5 Away 6
Fouls
Home 20 Away 9
Very similar with the extra shot on target being the one we scored, although we had more corners and really need to start making them count this season. They were fouling bastards last season as well.
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They're awful to watch.
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Oh well. Last it is.
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Considering our injuries, 5th and averaging 2 points a game is not to be sniffed at.
Unbelievable start given the Brighton game aside I don't think we've even clicked yet . If we had a full squad dare I say it we,d be on 20 + points
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They're awful to watch.
Yep reminiscent of Albion under Pulis.
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
It was a back four really, with Konsa at RB, Carlos and Torres in the middle and Digne at left back. It might go to a 3 when one of the full-backs pushes on, which is where Torres has been caught a couple of times this season and it has led to goals.
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Torres pace is a big concern in this league
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I don’t think so. He played against pacy players last week and did brilliantly.
He got stood up by Neto today, which was a mistake, but many players suffer that against him. Also it was more a collective failing - Neto had been kept out on that wing for plenty of time, Digne should have got much closer so it wasn’t a one on one.
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I think once you get to the business end of a season and the big games , in this league nowadays a lack of pace is a killer
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Torres pace is a big concern in this league
Antonio and Bowen going to cause loads of issues in the next game. Probably have to score three times to beat West Ham.
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Praise from Danny Murphy on MOTD, whatever next. It did feel as if he was determined to do an Ollie segment no matter what, but at least they highlighted the penalty incident for the push on him.
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I think once you get to the business end of a season and the big games , in this league nowadays a lack of pace is a killer
Does everything speed up?
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I think once you get to the business end of a season and the big games , in this league nowadays a lack of pace is a killer
Does everything speed up?
Yes, it is the Third Law of Dynamic Motion, soon to be encapsulated in a new statistic ESLD (expected speed late doors). Laggers beware.
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I still don’t like the 3/5 at the back thing
Emery doesn't rate the likes of the Donk, Chambers or Traore, another injury or two and we will be reliant on them.
Anyone know how Sanson is getting on in France? I would have preferred him to Tielemans and Dendoncker based on their perfromances as stand-ins this season so far.
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Really missed JJ today, we had a few off the pace Luiz especially. The extra matches are having an effect on some players, the injuries at the start of the season has left us with little quality to call on. Wolves played not to lose.
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I think of all the injuries, Ramsey is a big miss for us, he is a big part of the way of how Unai wants us to play
Torres pace, I don't think it would of mattered if Mings would have been chasing Neto, he would of beaten him as well.
Good point, hopefully we will win against a good West Ham side
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We should remember that for them, this home game is their seasonal World Cup final. And we’ve struggled against them over the last 2 seasons. Bit of a war of attrition but whilst we should have won with the last header of the game, a draw is still a decent result to stem the winless run. Hopefully by next season (assuming they’re still in the premier league), this will be rejected to just another away game we pick up max points in.
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A missed opportunity to take the three points, but you could see the tank was running on empty for some of our players. The second string really do need to step up in the cup games if we are not going to burn out the likes of Dougie, Kamara, McGinn and Ollie.
Also, anyone else notice how much shirt pulling has crept into the game lately and going unpunished? Ref's need to get on top of this more.
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Didn't really work today. McGinn out of position again too. Think our squad needs a lot of strengthening in January. Digne had a decent game but thought we missed likes of Mings, Ramsey and Buendia today. For starters, there isn't a hope Neto would have taken Mings down the line today like he did to Torres and Carlos. Emery doesn't rate the likes of the Donk, Chambers or Traore, another injury or two and we will be reliant on them.
Given the player-availability, I think we maybe should have kept Aaron Ramsey for that left MF role.
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A missed opportunity to take the three points, but you could see the tank was running on empty for some of our players. The second string really do need to step up in the cup games if we are not going to burn out the likes of Dougie, Kamara, McGinn and Ollie.
Also, anyone else notice how much shirt pulling has crept into the game lately and going unpunished? Ref's need to get on top of this more.
The refs “ letting the game flow” is double speak for allowing pushing and shirt pulling.
I think they have to consider sin binning to stop the incessant fouling also.
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I think of all the injuries, Ramsey is a big miss for us, he is a big part of the way of how Unai wants us to play
Torres pace, I don't think it would of mattered if Mings would have been chasing Neto, he would of beaten him as well.
Good point, hopefully we will win against a good West Ham side
Neto is a very good player, but he would not have run right around Mings the way he did Torres for their goal. No chance.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
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Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
He has so far this season, on both sides of the field. Ake is not slouch for Citeh, he walked through the Liverpool defence and also did the same in other matches where the finish didn't come.
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I thought we kept Neto relatively quite yesterday. His effort when put through for that great chance was very poor.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
I know what you're saying but my point was I don't think it's cut and dried that the same thing wouldn't have happened. The key was to not let that situation happen, Neto running directly at our centre halves, which we'd pretty much managed to do but for Doug having a brain fart and leaving us exposed.
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Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
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Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Oh yeah and how's he doing up there?Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Oh yeah, and how's he doing up there lately?
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He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
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Ha ha.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
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😂
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if Monday mornings did quotes :D
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He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
He's doing better than you are at quoting, put it that way.
Applause 👏🏻.
Best quote fail in quite a while on H&V
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This is great stuff!
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Didn't think Dougie had one of his best games and he shouldn't have lost the ball the way he did for Wolves goal. Only adding this because Pau's getting the brunt of the criticism but he wasn't the only one at fault.
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Didn't think Dougie had one of his best games and he shouldn't have lost the ball the way he did for Wolves goal. Only adding this because Pau's getting the brunt of the criticism but he wasn't the only one at fault.
goal was Luiz's fault for dithering , but , Torres running in slow motion is a big worry , he can't be left with one on ones
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
I know what you're saying but my point was I don't think it's cut and dried that the same thing wouldn't have happened. The key was to not let that situation happen, Neto running directly at our centre halves, which we'd pretty much managed to do but for Doug having a brain fart and leaving us exposed.
Luiz should be a long way down the list of blame for that goal. He was caught in possession but it was on the opposite wing and half way into their side of pitch. Torres was dragged out to the left but Digne covered inside of him and Konsa was on their only forward. The way Torres was beaten in our box was piss poor, maybe Digne should have been closer and no way Konsa, watching all this develop, should have let their forward run across him to score at near post. Fine finish, mind.
Neto nearly did same to Carlos not long after only for Kamara to bail him out. Co commentator thought it was a penalty but I thought Kamara was strong when he needed to be. Can't have two centre backs in a three with tree stumps for legs when they have to turn.
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The co commentator was an absolute prick. I assume an ex-Wolves player but not sure who.
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Oh dear Richard, tell Mummy when you get home after school that the mittens are not needed just yet.
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I had to watch this game on my phone in sneaky mode, as we had family over for a paëlla. Also, I'd had a bit of champagne, wine and some 12 year-old Jameson so I can just about remember the score.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
I know what you're saying but my point was I don't think it's cut and dried that the same thing wouldn't have happened. The key was to not let that situation happen, Neto running directly at our centre halves, which we'd pretty much managed to do but for Doug having a brain fart and leaving us exposed.
Luiz should be a long way down the list of blame for that goal. He was caught in possession but it was on the opposite wing and half way into their side of pitch. Torres was dragged out to the left but Digne covered inside of him and Konsa was on their only forward. The way Torres was beaten in our box was piss poor, maybe Digne should have been closer and no way Konsa, watching all this develop, should have let their forward run across him to score at near post. Fine finish, mind.
Neto nearly did same to Carlos not long after only for Kamara to bail him out. Co commentator thought it was a penalty but I thought Kamara was strong when he needed to be. Can't have two centre backs in a three with tree stumps for legs when they have to turn.
Luiz was clearly to blame. If he doesn't screw up fumbling control of the ball then we don't get caught out. They were hopeful of an opportunity like that and we presented it. The defense being out of position didn't help either. Even so, the killer was the nick off Digne's leg which guided the ball to the scorer but it starts with Luiz.
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I still don't think Emery is getting the set up quite right away from home. We'd have been better with McGinn on the right ahead of Cash at right back. Cash is fine as an attacking right back who likes to get forward, but as a full time winger/wing back he doesn't look as good. The three central defenders all playing hasn't worked brilliantly either, and I think that partly explains our more disjointed performances in away games.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
I know what you're saying but my point was I don't think it's cut and dried that the same thing wouldn't have happened. The key was to not let that situation happen, Neto running directly at our centre halves, which we'd pretty much managed to do but for Doug having a brain fart and leaving us exposed.
Luiz should be a long way down the list of blame for that goal. He was caught in possession but it was on the opposite wing and half way into their side of pitch. Torres was dragged out to the left but Digne covered inside of him and Konsa was on their only forward. The way Torres was beaten in our box was piss poor, maybe Digne should have been closer and no way Konsa, watching all this develop, should have let their forward run across him to score at near post. Fine finish, mind.
Neto nearly did same to Carlos not long after only for Kamara to bail him out. Co commentator thought it was a penalty but I thought Kamara was strong when he needed to be. Can't have two centre backs in a three with tree stumps for legs when they have to turn.
I can't agree with that, it wasn't like Doug was under huge pressure in a difficult position, we were well on the attack and it was extremely sloppy just when we couldn't afford it.
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Bloody quote fails...
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Bloody quote fails...
Thought he was just being Fred Elliott 😃
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Bloody quote fails...
Thought he was just being Fred Elliott 😃
Ha, good shout!
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Them wolves are no match for my slaugter'ouse, I say, no match!
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I did not realise it got eggy with the handshake after the game . Off you fuck Gary Oneil !
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Considering our injuries, 5th and averaging 2 points a game is not to be sniffed at.
I think it is mighty impressive considering not only the injuries, but the Jekyll & Hyde nature of some of our performances too...
When we get Moreno & Ramsey back, & the defence clicks properly, we could be a very dangerous side...
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I did not realise it got eggy with the handshake after the game . Off you fuck Gary Oneil !
Yes the little turd turned away when Unai offered and went to thank the officials for nut giving us a blatant pen (obviously), and then got shirty when Unai told him to fuck off.
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Also, anyone else notice how much shirt pulling has crept into the game lately and going unpunished? Ref's need to get on top of this more.
Yep, though I noticed on one of the recent VAR audio releases that they seem to let it go if both players are doing it. I suppose the 'dark arts' are being let go in order to keep games flowing.
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Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Oh yeah and how's he doing up there?Neto is quality and one we should be looking at in Jan.
The ref made a rod for his own back with the Kamara yellow after 5 mins, which was very soft. How on earth Samedo finished the game for Wolves was beyond me.
Overall horrible game, which we should have won, and highlighted the good and bad of Ollie Watkins. Love him, but we need a better finisher in the squad at some point.
unfortunately he's in Sheffield
Oh yeah, and how's he doing up there lately?
I'm doing well thanks, just carrying a bit of a knock.
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They were talking about goals not Sunday roasts I think mate.
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Considering our injuries, 5th and averaging 2 points a game is not to be sniffed at.
I think it is mighty impressive considering not only the injuries, but the Jekyll & Hyde nature of some of our performances too...
When we get Moreno & Ramsey back, & the defence clicks properly, we could be a very dangerous side...
Absolutely. And Mings and Buendia. Good Times ahead me thinks.
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What was the handbags about with Emery and the Wolves staff?
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They were talking about goals not Sunday roasts I think mate.
The cheek.
I'll have you know I played up front and it's definitely my position. I'm not the most mobile, but have a deft little move where I control the ball with my left and set the right foot up for a delightful finish into the corner.
Though I do like a Yorkshire pud..
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such a shame Watkins didn't put that header away at the end , the scenes would have been epic
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What I’m going to say now will not go down well and people will think I’ve gone a bit mad (well, you know more than usual)
The last time I visited Molineux was in the 1980s and I was pleasantly surprised by Wolverhampton yesterday,
not the rundown shit hole I expected, i’m not talking about the stadium that’s like higgledy house but the actual place/area itself
So there you go, I’ve said it
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What I’m going to say now will not go down well and people will think I’ve gone a bit mad (well, you know more than usual)
The last time I visited Molineux was in the 1980s and I was pleasantly surprised by Wolverhampton yesterday,
not the rundown shit hole I expected, i’m not talking about the stadium that’s like higgledy house but the actual place/area itself
So there you go, I’ve said it
My wife was there at uni in the late 90's and it was alright then and for a few years after, but really seems to have gone downhill in the last decade.
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It's a bit of a shit tip, but I am a bit jealous of how close the ground is to the City centre. Loads of parking in the towns various car parks, and plenty of pubs. It must be a decent day out for them other than the obvious fact they're supporting a tin pot club.
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What I’m going to say now will not go down well and people will think I’ve gone a bit mad (well, you know more than usual)
The last time I visited Molineux was in the 1980s and I was pleasantly surprised by Wolverhampton yesterday,
not the rundown shit hole I expected, i’m not talking about the stadium that’s like higgledy house but the actual place/area itself
So there you go, I’ve said it
The transformational powers of a warm sunny day perhaps
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i went to Uni for 2 years in Wolverhampton , it was a shit hole then and it still is today.
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My 2 teenage kids were at one end of the stand, and I was at the other ( long story)
Anyway, watching match of the day last night when we scored the cameras panned to their section of the crowd celebrating
There is my son Albert up on his chair giving the wanker sign to the Wolves lot
I don’t know whether to feel proud or ashamed
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There was no one who had a really bad game yesterday. We look a very good team in the making and every player is comfortable in possession. With our injuries and having only played 2 days before we still looked the better team.
The referee ruined the game and allowed them to get away with foul after foul and their falling over for 5 minutes tactics. I went thinking they weren’t that bad a side but they with their stone age approach they are in big trouble.
Poor defending for their goal as we had 2 marking 1 but we responded well.
16 points from 8 games is a great start and considering the injuries we have then it’s even better than that.
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i went to Uni for 2 years in Wolverhampton , it was a shit hole then and it still is today.
2 years? Did they kick you out?
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Now the Civic has reopened there is a reason to visit the city centre again - but from my experience, it's a pretty bleak experience with only one or two decent pubs. Not a reflection on Wolverhampton, there are lots of towns like this across the UK.
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i went to Uni for 2 years in Wolverhampton , it was a shit hole then and it still is today.
2 years? Did they kick you out?
i left of my own accord and continued my studies elsewhere
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Finally seen the highlights (didn’t the pen shout in the game). Very obvious penalty.
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Nobody loves by Tyrone more than me, and I've been critical of Torres especially at Anfield but we've found ourselves struggling down the left flank against Wolves in every game there since we came up.
Neto is particularly rapid and skillful and bang in form, he'd do that to almost anyone one on one.
Perhaps I should be clearer. He may have beaten Ty one way or another, but I don't think he'd have been able to run right around the outside of him like that, Ty is just too quick and strong. I was replying to a reference about Torres' pace, which I do think is an issue.
I know what you're saying but my point was I don't think it's cut and dried that the same thing wouldn't have happened. The key was to not let that situation happen, Neto running directly at our centre halves, which we'd pretty much managed to do but for Doug having a brain fart and leaving us exposed.
Luiz should be a long way down the list of blame for that goal. He was caught in possession but it was on the opposite wing and half way into their side of pitch. Torres was dragged out to the left but Digne covered inside of him and Konsa was on their only forward. The way Torres was beaten in our box was piss poor, maybe Digne should have been closer and no way Konsa, watching all this develop, should have let their forward run across him to score at near post. Fine finish, mind.
Neto nearly did same to Carlos not long after only for Kamara to bail him out. Co commentator thought it was a penalty but I thought Kamara was strong when he needed to be. Can't have two centre backs in a three with tree stumps for legs when they have to turn.
I can't agree with that, it wasn't like Doug was under huge pressure in a difficult position, we were well on the attack and it was extremely sloppy just when we couldn't afford it.
And Emery had warned them that Wolves are very good with transitions.
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Wolverhampton is fine by me. Had some great nights there before and after Civic gigs and there's plenty of decent pubs if you know where to look. My lad is in his 2nd year at Uni there and really enjoying it.
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Yep I love Dougie,
he’s probably my favourite player but you can’t lose possession cheaply like that, it was a mistake by him that caused that goal and there’s no getting away from that
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Wolverhampton is fine by me. Had some great nights there before and after Civic gigs and there's plenty of decent pubs if you know where to look. My lad is in his 2nd year at Uni there and really enjoying it.
Yeah, I had a mate who lived in Willenhall and we used to go out in Wolverhampton quite a bit. It was a good night out, especially the Cheeky Monkey and Blast Off nights at the Civic. That’s going back about 20 years now though, so no idea what it’s like now.
The theatre is nice there as well.
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we used to get a cracking BEST (bacon egg sausage tomatoe) sandwhich in the mornings there before Uni from a van on the car park not far from the ground behind where the old away end was .
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Yep I love Dougie,
he’s probably my favourite player but you can’t lose possession cheaply like that, it was a mistake by him that caused that goal and there’s no getting away from that
Dougie is an incredible player, a class act and likewise my favourite player. But he messed up, we was in a comfortable position, players around and he gave it away to easy. It put us on the back foot and gave them an opportunity to catch us on the break.
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Wolverhampton was okay twenty years ago when it got its act together before becoming Wolverhampton again. It's still got some good pubs and last Friday it was the rock'n'roll capital of the world.
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Wolverhampton still looks 20 years behind
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The closure of Beatties was a hammer blow. It ripped the heart out of the city centre.
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They're shite, it's why they'll languish in the bottom 6 or 7 all season and get a hard on going full Stoke against a good side. Why we should be peeved we didn't beat them.
Definitely 2 points dropped and a gap opening to the top
We're 5th, 2 points off city with a massively disrupted squad you miserable so and so
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I remember a few years ago when being battered by PNE we would have traded a bollock to be mid table and boring in the prem. we are 5th after 8 games winning 5 and drawing 1. In Europe and have a world class manager. Saying we have dropped 2 points and gap widening……come on VillaTim, cheers up a bit mate.
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i went to Uni for 2 years in Wolverhampton , it was a shit hole then and it still is today.
2 years? Did they kick you out?
i left of my own accord and continued my studies elsewhere
Good on you, Tim.
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Wolverhampton was okay twenty years ago when it got its act together before becoming Wolverhampton again. It's still got some good pubs and last Friday it was the rock'n'roll capital of the world.
Who played there ?
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I don't mind Molineux. Not many grounds you can walk to within 5-6 minutes of major train station so give me that over out of town atrocities like the Madjeski stadium any day.
Also seen three different teams win there in 18 months, two in the premier league and one when Wolves had fallen straight through to league one.
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Wolverhampton is fine by me. Had some great nights there before and after Civic gigs and there's plenty of decent pubs if you know where to look. My lad is in his 2nd year at Uni there and really enjoying it.
Same here. Gigs at the civic, and the old pre season games with a few Dingles mates when Wolves needed a big club to play before enjoying a season of mid table mediocrity.
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I went to see the Charlatans at the Civic and it was the worst accoustics I've ever encountered at a gig.
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My first ever full time job interview at 18 was in Wolverhampton at Beatties . I didn't get the job unbelievably. Probably was an early sliding doors moment .
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Wolverhampton still looks 20 years behind
Whereas Brum is only a few months behind. Any day now...
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I went to see the Charlatans at the Civic and it was the worst accoustics I've ever encountered at a gig.
Yeah, the sound seems to bounce off the back wall so it feels like you hear it twice.
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I went to see the Charlatans at the Civic and it was the worst accoustics I've ever encountered at a gig.
Yeah, the sound seems to bounce off the back wall so it feels like you hear it twice.
Awful sound there for The Raconteurs too
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I used to work at Wolves Uni and have invigilated a few exams in the Civic. Excellent venue for invigilator Pacman.
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we used to get a cracking BEST (bacon egg sausage tomatoe) sandwhich in the mornings there before Uni from a van on the car park not far from the ground behind where the old away end was .
What sort of monster wants tinned tomato on a bacon, egg & sausage sandwich?
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It's a staple offering of greasy spoon cafes and vans throughout the nation. Brown sauce, job's a good 'un.
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
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It's the hangover cure from heaven.Lightly toasted/fried on one side of the bread gives the tinned tomato a solid base.
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we used to get a cracking BEST (bacon egg sausage tomatoe) sandwhich in the mornings there before Uni from a van on the car park not far from the ground behind where the old away end was .
When I worked on the West Brom/Oldbury border, Saturday's OT used to be punctuated with a sandwich run to a local cafe. They used to do a BEST/BESM, and if you asked for it as a double decker on crusty, used to cut the end off a bloomer, then cut two slices not quite all the way through to load the stuff on. Used to almost dislocate your jaw biting into it.
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It's the hangover cure from heaven.Lightly toasted/fried on one side of the bread gives the tinned tomato a solid base.
Specification dictates that the bread has to be toasted to ensure structural integrity. The canned tomatoes ratio has to be just right to avoid a disaster , generally speaking the people on the assembly line know what they're doing.
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
You've not lived Chris
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
Yeh fuck the tomatoes. Straight to protein with a bit of sauce between bread and it’s done.
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Tinned tomatoes heated up and served directly are an abomination. Here in France people look at me with visible disgust when I tell them what people in the UK do with plum toms out of a tin.
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Tinned tomatoes heated up and served directly are an abomination. Here in France people look at me with visible disgust when I tell them what people in the UK do with plum toms out of a tin.
... before going back to gorging on sheep's brain, chitterlings, horse and that munster cheese.
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
Yeh fuck the tomatoes. Straight to protein with a bit of sauce between bread and it’s done.
Agreed, and good to know there are still 'normal' people on here.
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
The Giffard Arms?
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
Yeh fuck the tomatoes. Straight to protein with a bit of sauce between bread and it’s done.
Agreed, and good to know there are still 'normal' people on here.
I thought the food wokerati had driven them all off.
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I'm not having it. Surely the bread loses all structure? It sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Not for me.
Yeh fuck the tomatoes. Straight to protein with a bit of sauce between bread and it’s done.
Agreed, and good to know there are still 'normal' people on here.
Absolutely. No frills needed with a bacon sandwich.
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
The Giffard Arms?
Think that was it, had a big throne in it.
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
The Giffard Arms?
Think that was it, had a big throne in it.
It was called Ozzy's chair but whether he ever sat in it is open to debate. Every other fucker has though, and had their photo taken.
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
The Giffard Arms?
Think that was it, had a big throne in it.
It was called Ozzy's chair but whether he ever sat in it is open to debate. Every other fucker has though, and had their photo taken.
Guilty as charged!
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Always quite enjoyed going on nights out in Wolvo. Posada and that rock pub (can't remember the name).
Wolves is one of the only places where you can feel posh as a Brummie.
The Giffard Arms?
Think that was it, had a big throne in it.
It was called Ozzy's chair but whether he ever sat in it is open to debate. Every other fucker has though, and had their photo taken.
Guilty as charged!
Same.
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Wolverhampton still looks 20 years behind
Wolverhampton folk go to the Black Country Museum to see what their life will be like in the future.
I dust this gag down once a year to use on here….
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Wolverhampton still looks 20 years behind
Wolverhampton folk go to the Black Country Museum to see what their life will be like in the future.
I dust this gag down once a year to use on here….
Not heard this and it made me chuckle