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Title: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 11, 2023, 11:15:44 PM
Another Dave Collett epic.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2023/09/11/cult-heroes-of-villa-park-jonathan-kodjia/
Title: Re: Cult Heroe of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 11, 2023, 11:19:38 PM
Heroe.

That is almost Chaucerian.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Legion on September 11, 2023, 11:32:01 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 11, 2023, 11:44:45 PM
Koj. Bert. Tammy. A season each, all legends. And that's a word I never bandy about. He lived in that stratum of the likes of Okocha and Trundle; mercurially blessed, but never quite being able to grasp greatness.

He made me not give up hope, and for that I'll forever be thankful.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: VillaTim on September 12, 2023, 12:11:42 AM
I can't believe how low we'd sunk to have RDM as manager.
Was at Preston that game he got his P45 , what a bleak walk back to the car that was
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 12, 2023, 01:56:52 AM
Jimmy Danger pre injury was as lethal as any forward that has played in the Championship. “Benteke Light” in that he could score any goal imaginable at his peak. Fantastic and exciting while his flame burned brightly.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Villan For Life on September 12, 2023, 07:04:53 AM
I hesitate to say what a great read that was, I’d locked the memories of those dark days away. However the likes of Jimmy D, Uncle Albert etc were shining beacons of hope in some very dark days. So thanks for a brilliant if uncomfortable read.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Rory on September 12, 2023, 08:22:37 AM
Enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 12, 2023, 08:40:12 AM
I loved Jimmy Danger. The Dalian Atkinson of our championship spell only more prolific. Brightened many an afternoon but equally as capable of looking  lethargic or lazy. The goal vs Fulham was vintage Tony Daley vs Everton. And I think we sometimes underappreciate he actually got nine league goals in the promotion season.  An enigma but a talented one.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 12, 2023, 12:48:37 PM
He was a top player in the championship prior to his injury and really never quite got back to that. The games i went to that season where i saw him live, he was on a different level to pretty much everyone else on the pitch. I'm sure he have made it in the PL without the injury, maybe not quite as well as Watkins has but still useful.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Drummond on September 12, 2023, 01:54:37 PM
We seem to have a particularly high number of players that get injured and then aren't the same again.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: darren woolley on September 12, 2023, 02:10:08 PM
Really enjoyable read.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: LeeB on September 12, 2023, 02:41:13 PM
We seem to have a particularly high number of players that get injured and then aren't the same again.

I was thinking that recently, the phrase 'never the same player after that...' seems to apply to way too many of our players.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Drummond on September 12, 2023, 02:42:49 PM
We seem to have a particularly high number of players that get injured and then aren't the same again.

I was thinking that recently, the phrase 'never the same player after that...' seems to apply to way too many of our players.

Absolutely, it's not just one or two either, bloody loads of them.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: LeeB on September 12, 2023, 02:50:48 PM
My mind goes all the way back to around Christmas 1990, and that wanker Bryan Robson chopping down a then at the height of his powers Tony Daley in full flight.
He was out for a while and I swear he was never the same player afterwards.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 12, 2023, 03:13:52 PM
He got a worse injury later and missed the 92-93 season. If we'd have had him as part of that team it would have been interesting. Well that and the scumbags not getting their 'Fergie time' in the Sheff Wed home game.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: AV82EC on September 12, 2023, 04:18:26 PM
He got a worse injury later and missed the 92-93 season. If we'd have had him as part of that team it would have been interesting. Well that and the scumbags not getting their 'Fergie time' in the Sheff Wed home game.

Also delivered courtesy of Bryan Robson
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: London Villan on September 12, 2023, 04:50:24 PM
My mind goes all the way back to around Christmas 1990, and that wanker Bryan Robson chopping down a then at the height of his powers Tony Daley in full flight.
He was out for a while and I swear he was never the same player afterwards.

Was that in the game we beat them 3-0?
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: LeeB on September 12, 2023, 04:57:04 PM
My mind goes all the way back to around Christmas 1990, and that wanker Bryan Robson chopping down a then at the height of his powers Tony Daley in full flight.
He was out for a while and I swear he was never the same player afterwards.

Was that in the game we beat them 3-0?

No, the year after at their place, think it was 1-1
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: charleeco7 on September 12, 2023, 05:13:36 PM
We visited New York in April this year and went into a bar to watch the Leicester game. Just before kick off JK walked in with his girlfriend/partner. He was decent enough to have photographs and seemed surprised anyone recognised him. He’d no idea the game was on and was a happy coincidence that made my lads day.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on September 12, 2023, 06:46:03 PM
I remember some JK doing some mad skills and shoehorning in a sneeze in the middle of about 20 step overs...against someone like norwich I think. Pre covid fortunately.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 12, 2023, 06:50:33 PM
Koj. Bert. Tammy. A season each, all legends. And that's a word I never bandy about. He lived in that stratum of the likes of Okocha and Trundle; mercurially blessed, but never quite being able to grasp greatness.

He made me not give up hope, and for that I'll forever be thankful.

Adomah had that one season where he went mad too. At about Christmas time he'd scored more goals than Blues.

I really like Kodjia, but struggled to recapture his form after the injury. Scored quite a few, especially as he quite often played out wide.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 12, 2023, 08:49:37 PM
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 12, 2023, 08:58:40 PM


Enjoyed that. Pity they're not in chronological order.

JK was the one bright spot of 16/17.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 12, 2023, 10:34:28 PM
16/17 doesn’t seem that long to me but watching that back, it suddenly seems an age ago. He was a really good player for us at that level, mainly before his injury. Three memories stand out for me.

I brought my son to his first match in 2014/15 when he was 4 (as an aside a 0-1 loss to a last minute Swansea goal, sums that period up), but his first kit was in 2016/17 and he had Kodja on the back, he’s 13 now and kept that top.

The penalty away at Rotherham when he came on as sub, was massively pressurised and arguably was hugely important in our ultimate promotion.

When Christ Brunt got sent off in the away leg of the play off semi, whatever Jimmy Danger did from the bench made me laugh at the time, if anyone can find the clip, fair play.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: AV82EC on September 13, 2023, 07:58:12 AM
16/17 doesn’t seem that long to me but watching that back, it suddenly seems an age ago. He was a really good player for us at that level, mainly before his injury. Three memories stand out for me.

I brought my son to his first match in 2014/15 when he was 4 (as an aside a 0-1 loss to a last minute Swansea goal, sums that period up), but his first kit was in 2016/17 and he had Kodja on the back, he’s 13 now and kept that top.

The penalty away at Rotherham when he came on as sub, was massively pressurised and arguably was hugely important in our ultimate promotion.

When Christ Brunt got sent off in the away leg of the play off semi, whatever Jimmy Danger did from the bench made me laugh at the time, if anyone can find the clip, fair play.

He "dabbed" as Brunt crossed the sideline after being sent off. 
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: eamonn on September 13, 2023, 05:05:08 PM
Dabbed what ?
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: AV82EC on September 13, 2023, 09:15:06 PM
Dabbed what ?

Apparently it’s something da kidz/yoot have been doing for a while.

From the dictionary

way of dancing that involves lowering your head and lifting both arms, one straight out to the side and one with the elbow bent:

I’m a pasty faced middle aged white bloke so haven’t a clue I’m afraid.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 13, 2023, 09:20:25 PM
Dabbed what ?

Apparently it’s something da kidz/yoot have been doing for a while.

From the dictionary

way of dancing that involves lowering your head and lifting both arms, one straight out to the side and one with the elbow bent:

I’m a pasty faced middle aged white bloke so haven’t a clue I’m afraid.

Thats it, and now i remember it was funny because he was pointing Brunt to the dressing room. Maybe had to be there
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 13, 2023, 10:37:05 PM
Loved Kodj.

That maverick player who had endless mazy dribbles, no awareness of who was alongside him but pretty often in 16/16 would come up with moment of magic to win a game so really the perfect forward for a Steve Bruce team.

Ultimately he had two bad injuries and became more of a bit part player and was pretty much done by time we went up but we've signed much worse in his position at both levels.

Who was that poster who couldn't stand him because he got one of those injuries playing for Ivory Coast? Bit like Bellingham getting a bad injury for England and some Real Madrid fan saying he should be sold immediately, was a very strange post at the time.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Villatillidie25 on September 13, 2023, 10:38:19 PM


Enjoyed that. Pity they're not in chronological order.

JK was the one bright spot of 16/17.

Some legitimately good goals in there
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 13, 2023, 10:58:30 PM
I can't believe how low we'd sunk to have RDM as manager.
Was at Preston that game he got his P45 , what a bleak walk back to the car that was

When we appointed Di Matteo it was actually only four years since he'd won the european cup (even if that was a bit of a fluke).

Also managed in the Bundesliga and had previously won promotion from the championship so he was a name but it actually looked a solid appointment.

Until the season started and he looked like he'd only managed Sunday league level given some of the formations he was playing.

Yes I was at the Preston game and it was a classic "you're getting sacked in the morning" performance. Never in it and we ended up with about five strikers on the pitch at the end all just running into each other.
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 13, 2023, 11:10:56 PM
Has RDM managed since?
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: adrenachrome on September 14, 2023, 05:10:55 AM
Has RDM managed since?

On 4 January 2023, Di Matteo was appointed as a technical advisor to the South Korean football club Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors. From Wiki.

Does that count?
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: Grande Pablo on September 14, 2023, 12:56:16 PM
Has RDM managed since?

On 4 January 2023, Di Matteo was appointed as a technical advisor to the South Korean football club Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors. From Wiki.

Does that count?

Korean Car Reverser?
Title: Re: Cult Heroes of Villa Park - Jonathan Kodjia
Post by: London Villan on September 14, 2023, 01:55:30 PM
I can't believe how low we'd sunk to have RDM as manager.
Was at Preston that game he got his P45 , what a bleak walk back to the car that was

Yes I was at the Preston game and it was a classic "you're getting sacked in the morning" performance. Never in it and we ended up with about five strikers on the pitch at the end all just running into each other.

Ah - Lambertball
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