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Title: Emi beware?
Post by: SaddVillan on July 28, 2023, 11:52:40 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/28/premier-league-referees-to-add-on-time-lost-for-goal-celebrations-this-season?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

The 2 hour match has arrived - be prepared to adjust your tavel arrangements.

Excessive goal celebrations - the solution is simple.
The team that's conceded walks the ball up to the centre spot. The ref blows his whistle and play restarts. If the team that's scored is still celebrating behind the goal, then tough shit.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: eamonn on July 28, 2023, 11:54:46 AM
Great name for a song. Emi Beware.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: chrisw1 on July 28, 2023, 11:55:19 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/28/premier-league-referees-to-add-on-time-lost-for-goal-celebrations-this-season?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

The 2 hour match has arrived - be prepared to adjust your tavel arrangements.

Excessive goal celebrations - the solution is simple.
The team that's conceded walks the ball up to the centre spot. The ref blows his whistle and play restarts. If the team that's scored is still celebrating behind the goal, then tough shit.


That would lead to no celebrations at all.  Is that what we want?
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: eamonn on July 28, 2023, 11:58:05 AM
Just make it a 60 minute game with a stopped clock.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: chrisw1 on July 28, 2023, 11:58:31 AM
Other changes will involve players receiving treatment off the field whenever possible to promote player safety and deter teams from slowing the game. Exceptions include when a goalkeeper is injured or if players from the same team have collided.

In circumstances where a player declines medical assistance, a teammate perceived to then purposely delay the restart will be cautioned. Referees have been reminded to book players who fail to respect the required distance at free-kicks.


This is all good stuff, although I don't know how they propose to get players off the field for treatment when they're feigning a life-threating injury.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: SaddVillan on July 28, 2023, 12:00:58 PM
Has anybody else seen the irony of the authorities want8ng to speed the game up, when VAR does the exact opposite?
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: London Villan on July 28, 2023, 12:09:40 PM
Isn't the clock stopped for goals celebrations as you have to kick off again?
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: UK Redsox on July 28, 2023, 12:12:18 PM
It'll be like after the world cup; a couple of weeks of proper added time and then back to normal
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Risso on July 28, 2023, 12:15:02 PM
It'll be like after the world cup; a couple of weeks of proper added time and then back to normal

If Liverpool or Man U are 1-0 down to us or Brighton, it'll be 8-10 minutes of injury time. Scores the other way round, then the usual 2 or 3 minutes will more than suffice.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 28, 2023, 12:17:09 PM
Great name for a song. Emi Beware.

By Emi 'n 'em?
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: OCD on July 28, 2023, 12:20:24 PM
Or in the case of last season's Liverpool-Villa game, as much time as necessary.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 28, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
I'd really like to see some or other rule introduced to stop the introduction of substitutes being used purely to wind down the clock or slow a game down in the closing minutes (and very often the closing seconds!) of a game.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: AV84 on July 28, 2023, 01:36:56 PM
Is there  a reason they don't just do what they do in rugby and stop the clock when the ball isn't in play? Rugby lends itself more to stopages, I know, but it seems a very obvious solution.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: chrisw1 on July 28, 2023, 02:04:59 PM
Is there  a reason they don't just do what they do in rugby and stop the clock when the ball isn't in play? Rugby lends itself more to stopages, I know, but it seems a very obvious solution.
Good question.

In rugby the clock stops for injuries, substitutions, and video ref.  I think that would work well in football.  It doesn't stop for scrums, lineouts, penalties freekicks, a restart after a team scores or other natural stoppages in game play.  The ref can also stop the clock discretionally - eg to deal with a discipline matters etc.  It's therefore not quite the clock stopping approach some advocate for football.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Drummond on July 28, 2023, 02:14:54 PM
Other changes will involve players receiving treatment off the field whenever possible to promote player safety and deter teams from slowing the game. Exceptions include when a goalkeeper is injured or if players from the same team have collided.

In circumstances where a player declines medical assistance, a teammate perceived to then purposely delay the restart will be cautioned. Referees have been reminded to book players who fail to respect the required distance at free-kicks.


This is all good stuff, although I don't know how they propose to get players off the field for treatment when they're feigning a life-threating injury.

That's shit. We'll have players running into each other to waste time and have a breather. IF you snap an opponents legs it's tough shit they have to get off the pitch!
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: VillaTim on July 28, 2023, 02:27:21 PM
This gives further scope for officials to decide how much time to add on.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Drummond on July 28, 2023, 02:32:08 PM
This gives further scope for officials to decide how much time to add on.

Yep, don;t you remember when Rashford and Fernandez bumped into each other for 10 minutes?
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: OCD on July 28, 2023, 06:46:50 PM
A Stadium Countdown Clock is one of the ideas being discussed to counter time wastage. I think it would be better than having 10 minutes of added time when you're defending a 1 goal lead at Old Trafford, Etihad, Anfield etc.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: andyh on July 28, 2023, 07:34:15 PM
Can’t stop singing EMI, beware of the devil.
One for us old ‘uns.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 29, 2023, 01:12:31 AM
Can’t stop singing EMI, beware of the devil.
One for us old ‘uns.

Susan? The reggae tune? Brilliant song.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: andyh on July 29, 2023, 07:31:38 AM
Can’t stop singing EMI, beware of the devil.
One for us old ‘uns.

Susan? The reggae tune? Brilliant song.
Yep
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 29, 2023, 08:44:14 AM
Suzanne. Dandy Livingstone, I presume. That song was on a K-Tel compilation album I used to have.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 05, 2023, 06:11:12 PM
Booked 7 times last season for time wasting
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 06:15:01 PM
Booked 7 times last season for time wasting

That's less than 1 in 5 games, his disciplinary record is much better than I thought.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 06:19:02 PM
Booked 7 times last season for time wasting

That's less than 1 in 5 games, his disciplinary record is much better than I thought.

Agreed, no suspensions, and he helped us see out games. Bloke’s a genius.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 06, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Booked 7 times last season for time wasting

That's less than 1 in 5 games, his disciplinary record is much better than I thought.

Agreed, no suspensions, and he helped us see out games. Bloke’s a genius.

Footy thought he was nailed on for a suspension. Insight.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Lsvilla on August 06, 2023, 04:47:13 PM
He didn't seem too stressed earlier......
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Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 06, 2023, 04:52:05 PM
Is there  a reason they don't just do what they do in rugby and stop the clock when the ball isn't in play? Rugby lends itself more to stopages, I know, but it seems a very obvious solution.

Rugby isn't a great example. Even with a clock that stops, you often only see the ball in play for 35 minutes of the 80. So much time is wasted in the setting up of lineouts and scrums.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: paul_e on August 07, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Is there  a reason they don't just do what they do in rugby and stop the clock when the ball isn't in play? Rugby lends itself more to stopages, I know, but it seems a very obvious solution.

Rugby isn't a great example. Even with a clock that stops, you often only see the ball in play for 35 minutes of the 80. So much time is wasted in the setting up of lineouts and scrums.

and the 1 minute clock for penalties and conversions which often get used to their fullest. However I think that's the right way to do it and it does work as an example because the clock gets stopped for injuries, for video reviews and if the ref asks for it to be stopped.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 07, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
Emi won't be getting booked this season for his antics.  If he does, he deserves a spanked bottom.
Title: Re: Emi beware?
Post by: trinityoap on August 07, 2023, 02:26:24 PM
Mrs TOAP has volunteered to do it.
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