Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: four fornicholl on June 02, 2023, 08:15:19 PM
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This is the version we should be singing
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The words:
Was walking down the Witton Lane one dark and dusky day
I spied a poor city fan a-running far away
I said to that poor city fan “it’s time for you to die”
He said “yes I know sir, Holte enders in the sky”
He ran down the terraces and fell towards the gate
Little did he know that death was sure to be his fate
He had one more short hour to live
And then he’d hear the cry
That every city fan does fear
Holte Enders in the sky
Their fists felt just like granite and their pockets lined with lead
And if they catch a city fan he’s sure to wind up dead
Cuz Villa fans rule Birmingham and city fans know why
Cuz they have seen the glory of…
Holte Enders in the sky.
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Good and bad memories, it’s easily cleaned up for all .
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Good and bad memories, it’s easily cleaned up for all .
It’s been ‘cleaned’ up. I should think there’s a tiny number of people who know the verses.
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
There have been a few real life examples too.
A Blues fan died in what became known as the Burlington Arcade massacre in the early seventies, then I’m sure we all remember the hit and run after the 5-1 game.
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
There have been a few real life examples too.
A Blues fan died in what became known as the Burlington Arcade massacre in the early seventies, then I’m sure we all remember the hit and run after the 5-1 game.
Was that related to football violence?
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I remember speaking to some fans on twitter years ago who believed Holte Enders In The Sky had always been a song of remembrance for those who have passed on. Doesn't seem right to me, we sing it as and when for as long as I can remember, and now seeing these lyrics, even less so!
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
There have been a few real life examples too.
A Blues fan died in what became known as the Burlington Arcade massacre in the early seventies, then I’m sure we all remember the hit and run after the 5-1 game.
Was that related to football violence?
Not being a prude, honestly, not with the job that I do. I happen to have a Villa hooligans book from about 20 years ago. The song is aggressive and seems distasteful and we Villains are such gentle folk 😂
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Yep, it's shit.
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
There have been a few real life examples too.
A Blues fan died in what became known as the Burlington Arcade massacre in the early seventies, then I’m sure we all remember the hit and run after the 5-1 game.
Was that related to football violence?
Yes.
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If I remember correctly that Burlington Arcade incident was before a preseason "Friendly " against the Blues.
Sir Brian 2 Beelzebub 1 , I think or did Anderson score ?
I did not know some one died in the Incident.
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Think the words are infantile.
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Different times different chimes.
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My mate sent this on WhatsApp and it made me chuckle:
"Every week we follow you boys in claret and blue, we're jealous inbred scumbags and we're obsessed with you.
We got not fucking history, we've only won two cups, we'd love to get promoted but we always fuck it up....
Allez Allez Allez"
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My mate sent this on WhatsApp and it made me chuckle:
"Every week we follow you boys in claret and blue, we're jealous inbred scumbags and we're obsessed with you.
We got not fucking history, we've only won two cups, we'd love to get promoted but we always fuck it up....
Allez Allez Allez"
Paulie history lesson about 'allez' being wrong incoming...
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My mate sent this on WhatsApp and it made me chuckle:
"Every week we follow you boys in claret and blue, we're jealous inbred scumbags and we're obsessed with you.
We got not fucking history, we've only won two cups, we'd love to get promoted but we always fuck it up....
Allez Allez Allez"
Paulie history lesson about 'allez' being wrong incoming...
I'll get ready to duck
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My mate sent this on WhatsApp and it made me chuckle:
"Every week we follow you boys in claret and blue, we're jealous inbred scumbags and we're obsessed with you.
We got not fucking history, we've only won two cups, we'd love to get promoted but we always fuck it up....
Allez Allez Allez"
Paulie history lesson about 'allez' being wrong incoming...
I'll get ready to duck
To be fair, I was enlightened but he needs to tell the rest of the Internet because it's f**king everywhere.
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Blimey, bit horrible really. Football and death to any fan, Birmingham or otherwise, isn't something that I'd like associated with Aston Villa.
Nobody who has seen Green Street could say that. Such a realistic depiction, and I'm sure Percy will back me up...
There have been a few real life examples too.
A Blues fan died in what became known as the Burlington Arcade massacre in the early seventies, then I’m sure we all remember the hit and run after the 5-1 game.
Was that related to football violence?
Yes.
I didn't know that.
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Checked that result and scorers curtesy of a google search that brought up the Oracle that is John Russell
Yes Villa 2 Blues 1 scorers Anderson 2 Latchford 1
I think the Sir Brian and Beelzebub score line is a couple of years later in our youth cup winning year
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Even though it wasn’t intended as such, i like the idea that holte enders in the sky has morphed into a epitaph for fallen Villa supporters and players. Feels really classy like that. I also love it when it echoes around Villa Park, on a cold bleak winters day, feels quite eerie then. Completely original to us as football chants go.
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It’s like a lot of folk songs. The original songs are often quite brutal or depraved but change over time.
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The Villa-Blues youth cup games were the same season as the friendly game.
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It’s like a lot of folk songs. The original songs are often quite brutal or depraved but change over time.
When did it first appear on our ‘Song sheet’?
I don’t remember it being sung when I first started going 70-71 in the 3rd division.
I’d certainly put it not long after that, though.
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My mate sent this on WhatsApp and it made me chuckle:
"Every week we follow you boys in claret and blue, we're jealous inbred scumbags and we're obsessed with you.
We got not fucking history, we've only won two cups, we'd love to get promoted but we always fuck it up....
Allez Allez Allez"
Paulie history lesson about 'allez' being wrong incoming...
Edited to remove a question that I realised the answer to after I'd posted!
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Even though it wasn’t intended as such, i like the idea that holte enders in the sky has morphed into a epitaph for fallen Villa supporters and players. Feels really classy like that. I also love it when it echoes around Villa Park, on a cold bleak winters day, feels quite eerie then. Completely original to us as football chants go.
Yeah, me too.
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I've never heard any of the verses sung at VP and tbh I'm glad. If I heard about Blues singing a song like that I'd be calling them out for it.
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The Trevor Francis dive game ...we lost 2-1 was our first year back in Div 1 , at the end of the game I witnessed some of the worst scenes I have encountered at football .
The Villa fans totally lost the plot ,pulling policeman of their horses smashing buses driving by and charging to the steps of the Kop bricking the Blues as they attempted to come out .
This wasn't a few this was literally 1000s the walk back into town and town itself was evil
HEITS became mainstream late 80s but the original version dates back to the early Steamers I believe .it was sung a fair bit in the Hole in the Wall late 70s
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That game
If I remember Phillips was sent off and Gray gave away the Penalty (maybe) which Francis gratefully accepted.
They had a team of cloggers, Burns, Gallagher and got away with murder.
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The Trevor Francis dive game ...we lost 2-1 was our first year back in Div 1 , at the end of the game I witnessed some of the worst scenes I have encountered at football .
The Villa fans totally lost the plot ,pulling policeman of their horses smashing buses driving by and charging to the steps of the Kop bricking the Blues as they attempted to come out .
This wasn't a few this was literally 1000s the walk back into town and town itself was evil
HEITS became mainstream late 80s but the original version dates back to the early Steamers I believe .it was sung a fair bit in the Hole in the Wall late 70s
Think that was the second season. First season back we lost 3-2 there in the sunshine. The evil 2-1 loss was a night game.
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The Trevor Francis dive game ...we lost 2-1 was our first year back in Div 1 , at the end of the game I witnessed some of the worst scenes I have encountered at football .
The Villa fans totally lost the plot ,pulling policeman of their horses smashing buses driving by and charging to the steps of the Kop bricking the Blues as they attempted to come out .
This wasn't a few this was literally 1000s the walk back into town and town itself was evil
HEITS became mainstream late 80s but the original version dates back to the early Steamers I believe .it was sung a fair bit in the Hole in the Wall late 70s
Think that was the second season. First season back we lost 3-2 there in the sunshine. The evil 2-1 loss was a night game.
thought it was,
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Unless we are unlucky in the cup thankfully i don't think we will ever have to go there again
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The Trevor Francis dive game ...we lost 2-1 was our first year back in Div 1 , at the end of the game I witnessed some of the worst scenes I have encountered at football .
The Villa fans totally lost the plot ,pulling policeman of their horses smashing buses driving by and charging to the steps of the Kop bricking the Blues as they attempted to come out .
This wasn't a few this was literally 1000s the walk back into town and town itself was evil
HEITS became mainstream late 80s but the original version dates back to the early Steamers I believe .it was sung a fair bit in the Hole in the Wall late 70s
Think that was the second season. First season back we lost 3-2 there in the sunshine. The evil 2-1 loss was a night game.
. Yes I stand corrected ...