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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Steve67 on June 01, 2023, 09:25:48 PM
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The fixtures are released on June 15th at 9am. The season starts on Saturday 12th August.
Who do you want first up?
I fancy Luton Town at Villa Park.
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'Kin 'ell, can't we let 22/23 die in peace, first?!
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Citeh away, beat them 3-0 and ignite the title charge
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Just two weeks away... Burnley away is my guess but my preference would be Arsenal or City at home.
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We've had one Premier League opening day game at Villa Park since West Ham in 2010 & that was against Sheffield United 2020 when no fans were allowed.
I want to open the season at Villa Park against anyone.
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The earlier you can play Man City, the better.
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Not a newly promoted club away.
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A home game against some lower half fodder. Bournemouth or Everton at VP please
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I'm easy because I know whoever it is we'll be well prepared. Would prefer to carry on chatting about 22/23 for a while yet though.
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The only thing I will ever ask for is to avoid newly promoted teams in August.
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We often seem to get newly promoted clubs away, so probably that!
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Be nice to have a home game for once in a bluemoon
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Man City at home for me. Smash them 3 or 4 nil to set the tone for the season.
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Hopefully not a promoted team, the first month is the worst time to play them.
It's probably also the best time to play the 'big' teams before they get into their stride. But ideally, I'd like just a very winnable game at home against mid table mediocracy - Fulham, Everton, Palace, Chelsea - someone like that.
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A nice easy home match where we get to funeral some bunch of hopeless chumps, to set the season off on the right note.
I definitely don't want Bournemouth away, after last season (a match which I think carried more heft than we thought in terms of where we'd go), and not even after the promotion season game which we won, but because it reminds me of that season (and that Rudy Gestede played for us).
Luton at home, please. I reckon they're going to have a sub 15 point season, so let's have the first three off them nice and early.
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A home game against a team that won’t mean it being shifted for TV, Fulham will do.
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A home game against a team that won’t mean it being shifted for TV, Fulham will do.
Good shout, we're going to have a lot of fixtures moved over the season
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A home game against a team that won’t mean it being shifted for TV, Fulham will do.
Good shout, we're going to have a lot of fixtures moved over the season
Bono was right all along.
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Home, Saturday, 3pm please.
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
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Coventry away……oh.
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Bournemouth at home please, they shouldnt change manager over summer, probably won’t go mad in transfer market so would be a nice steady start and by 5pm on the Saturday only be 37 points from first target :-)
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Coventry away……oh.
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
I thought I remembered reading something about newly promoted clubs taking the slot of a relegated club in the algorithm, but it’s not in the article I thought it was, so god knows.
https://theathletic.com/3358976/2022/06/12/premier-league-fixtures-computer/?source=user_shared_article (https://theathletic.com/3358976/2022/06/12/premier-league-fixtures-computer/?source=user_shared_article)
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Say the same every year, but can we avoid the newly promoted sides early on please?
Wouldn't mind Manure early on.
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Would like Bournemouth at home, predict Burnley away.
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A nice easy home match where we get to funeral some bunch of hopeless chumps, to set the season off on the right note.
I definitely don't want Bournemouth away, after last season (a match which I think carried more heft than we thought in terms of where we'd go), and not even after the promotion season game which we won, but because it reminds me of that season (and that Rudy Gestede played for us).
Luton at home, please. I reckon they're going to have a sub 15 point season, so let's have the first three off them nice and early.
Tottenham?
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
I thought I remembered reading something about newly promoted clubs taking the slot of a relegated club in the algorithm, but it’s not in the article I thought it was, so god knows.
https://theathletic.com/3358976/2022/06/12/premier-league-fixtures-computer/?source=user_shared_article (https://theathletic.com/3358976/2022/06/12/premier-league-fixtures-computer/?source=user_shared_article)
That can't happen because of the pairings and also because the fixtures are being worked on well before the season ends.
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Chelsea at home please. Let's give em a good shoeing before Pochettino gets things going.
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
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No links to the Sun.
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No links to the Sun.
Sorry Dave I forgot about the Sun ban, but are you aware of this arrangement, the Sky 6 have with the Premier League, which was mentioned in the article.
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One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
Extremely rarely on the first day as well now you mention it. Bit of a disgrace really, absolutely fixing it.
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No links to the Sun.
Sorry Dave I forgot about the Sun ban, but are you aware of this arrangement, the Sky 6 have with the Premier League, which was mentioned in the article.
I can't see how it can happen, as the 'Big' Six' is only a recent development. As an aside, one of the funnier things about the fixtures was in 2002 when the compilers were worried about Blackburn, who'd won the League Cup and were struggling in the league, getting relegated, as the Uefa Cup rounds the next season took place on the week of Championship midweek games. There was much relief when Blackburn stayed up - right up until Ipswich went down and got a fair play place in the Uefa.
Edited after doing a modicum of research - I recommend it.
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Well it obviously does happen. Look at the opening and final day fixtures for the last ten years, and then work at the odds of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea never playing each other in those fixtures.
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It will be an way game as per usual!
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The last one I can think of giving a toss about was when Leicester won, because it actually meant something to them
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One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
Extremely rarely on the first day as well now you mention it. Bit of a disgrace really, absolutely fixing it.
I don't buy into it tbh, a cursory check shows Spurs were at home to Citeh on the opening day of 2021/22.
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One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
Extremely rarely on the first day as well now you mention it. Bit of a disgrace really, absolutely fixing it.
I don't buy into it tbh, a cursory check shows Spurs were at home to Citeh on the opening day of 2021/22.
They finished 7th the season before.
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One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
Extremely rarely on the first day as well now you mention it. Bit of a disgrace really, absolutely fixing it.
I don't buy into it tbh, a cursory check shows Spurs were at home to Citeh on the opening day of 2021/22.
They finished 7th the season before.
Yes, but we were talking abut the so-called "Big Scab Six".
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The so-called Sky 6 needs a rethink doesn't it? Chelsea and Tottenham are no longer there. Tottenham can't even find someone decent who wants to manage them and Chelsea are punting with Poch.
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
So we’re aren’t paired with anyone at the moment?
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Doesn't the fixture computer lock-in certain patterns year on year i.e we seem to be stuck with the away game at a promoted side early on quite a bit? Hopefully it's mot a lazy rehash this year.
I believe this is true.
It isn't. There are more myths about the fixtures than just about anything in football. The only thing that's for certain is that some clubs are paired so that wherever possible they don't play at home on the same day and one or two other minor rules (for example clubs newly promoted to League One have a low-key first game).
So we’re aren’t paired with anyone at the moment?
Small Heath. You don't have to be in the same division as your pair.
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This link shows that for the last 14 seasons the Sky 6 have never played each other on the last day of season, if this is not damning evidence that they have an arrangement with the Premier League, I don't know what is.
https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-2009-2010/
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This link shows that for the last 14 seasons the Sky 6 have never played each other on the last day of season, if this is not damning evidence that they have an arrangement with the Premier League, I don't know what is.
https://www.worldfootball.net/all_matches/eng-premier-league-2009-2010/
Was the Sky 6 a thing then? I seem to remember it was the big 4 and lots of people saying it would never change.
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There’s a good chance that we will get a newly promoted club again because that’s what the machine has been throwing out for the last few years.
They have to programme in things like seaside towns not being at home on a Bank Holiday. Derbies not happening on certain dates. Teams with rivalries not been scheduled at home on the same weekend. Their ‘Big’ matches being scheduled in a way they like for their viewing figures.
All this switches depending on who’s gone up and down but it seems not to move to much. The promoted/relegated scenario might change it this year, but the chances aren’t high.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
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Apologies for a link to a newspaper almost as odious. The original story in the times is behind a paywall.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5702761/Premier-League-deliberately-arrange-fixtures-six-clubs-not-meet-weekend.
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I guess Sky like to sex up those sorry wet Sunday afternoons in November, February and April but putting two 'big' clubs up against one another.
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I’m sure this is true, but doesn’t explain why we always seem to play a newly promoted team away from home every feckin season, and when we were a newly promoted team, we ended up playing one of the “top six”, away.
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One thing that is not a myth, but a certainty is none of the 'Sky 6' will play each on the last day of the season. The last time it happened was May 2009, when Liverpool played Spurs, why nothing is said about it is beyond me.
Extremely rarely on the first day as well now you mention it. Bit of a disgrace really, absolutely fixing it.
I don't buy into it tbh, a cursory check shows Spurs were at home to Citeh on the opening day of 2021/22.
Seems more likely that they try to keep a reasonably 'interesting' stream of fixtures throughout the season. The last day of the season is always going to be interesting, usually because of teams around the bottom, so why waste e.g
a local derby on that week when you could put it on in mid January and make more of a thing about.
Don't think it's an intentional cartel type thing, just a natural result of trying to maximise TV revenue & interest.
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I’m sure this is true, but doesn’t explain why we always seem to play a newly promoted team away from home every feckin season, and when we were a newly promoted team, we ended up playing one of the “top six”, away.
Well it's all a part of the above. There are loads of things they take into account, like neighbouring teams playing, and fixtures during the rest of the year like Boxing Day. I guess some fixtures just sort of happen by default as a result.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
Don't the Police put in a request nowadays they don't want high risk fixtures near the end especially in London.
Arsenal-Chelsea had to be moved back a couple of days because all police leave was taken up with the Coronation and that was three weeks before the end of the season.
Can safely assume WMP would request we never play Wolves on first or last day of the season either as it's just too risky.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
Don't the Police put in a request nowadays they don't want high risk fixtures near the end especially in London.
Arsenal-Chelsea had to be moved back a couple of days because all police leave was taken up with the Coronation and that was three weeks before the end of the season.
Can safely assume WMP would request we never play Wolves on first or last day of the season either as it's just too risky.
Us and Wolves really that risky on the fan's side? Been a while since I was a ST though, they weren't in the prem when I was so I've not had the experience of coming across them en masse. I never really think about them.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
Don't the Police put in a request nowadays they don't want high risk fixtures near the end especially in London.
Arsenal-Chelsea had to be moved back a couple of days because all police leave was taken up with the Coronation and that was three weeks before the end of the season.
Can safely assume WMP would request we never play Wolves on first or last day of the season either as it's just too risky.
You'd be wrong on that one - there's never a problem with our games against Wolves. Unless the procedure has changed the police have no say in the compilation of individual fixtures; they just 'advise' on kick-off times when they come out.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
Don't the Police put in a request nowadays they don't want high risk fixtures near the end especially in London.
Arsenal-Chelsea had to be moved back a couple of days because all police leave was taken up with the Coronation and that was three weeks before the end of the season.
Can safely assume WMP would request we never play Wolves on first or last day of the season either as it's just too risky.
You'd be wrong on that one - there's never a problem with our games against Wolves. Unless the procedure has changed the police have no say in the compilation of individual fixtures; they just 'advise' on kick-off times when they come out.
According to Glenn Thompson, the man in charge of the process, they consult the police throughout;
“We engage with police forces up and down the country. Every one. A good example would be the Sheffield clubs. South Yorkshire Police wouldn’t want the two Sheffield clubs to have a home fixture on the same day. Same for Port Vale and Stoke and any number of two-club cities.
“The West Midlands is another example. Police wouldn’t be happy if there were five home games one Saturday and then one the next. We try and ensure a fair spread.”
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My understanding is that the rivalries criteria isn’t dependent on what division you’re in.
So we’ll usually be at home at the same time as Wolves. so that both Wolves and us can be at home while Albion are away.
Similarly, despite being most local rivals within the Championship, Blues and Albion will be at home at the same time so that they are both away when we (& Wolves in the case of Albion) are at home.
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What would be the point? Sky make a big thing about them playing each other, they make a big thing about the last day. Put them both together and it's like having your birthday at Christmas.
Well despite the link to the odious newspaper, the fact that this happens was mentioned in there, and also the cold, hard facts back it up. Apart from the one or two games in two years, they never, ever meet. The odds against that are absolutely enormous.
Don't the Police put in a request nowadays they don't want high risk fixtures near the end especially in London.
Arsenal-Chelsea had to be moved back a couple of days because all police leave was taken up with the Coronation and that was three weeks before the end of the season.
Can safely assume WMP would request we never play Wolves on first or last day of the season either as it's just too risky.
You'd be wrong on that one - there's never a problem with our games against Wolves. Unless the procedure has changed the police have no say in the compilation of individual fixtures; they just 'advise' on kick-off times when they come out.
According to Glenn Thompson, the man in charge of the process, they consult the police throughout;
“We engage with police forces up and down the country. Every one. A good example would be the Sheffield clubs. South Yorkshire Police wouldn’t want the two Sheffield clubs to have a home fixture on the same day. Same for Port Vale and Stoke and any number of two-club cities.
“The West Midlands is another example. Police wouldn’t be happy if there were five home games one Saturday and then one the next. We try and ensure a fair spread.”
They consult them but the police can't demand certain dates for certain fixtures. A lot of it is just common sense but sometimes events change the criteria. For example, some clubs will ask for away games first because of ground redevelopments or Coventry after the Commonwealth Games.
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I think you're contradicting yourself a bit there Dave. You said they have "no say" other than kick off times once the fixtures are released. They're clearly consulted a lot more than that, as the statement fom the bloke in charge says. Obviously no policing, no football match. Their insistence on moving the date of the Arsenal v Chelsea game at the back end of this season just gone shows the influence they have.
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I guess when they are first compiled- the police won't make games be moved, but clearly can and do make 'suggestions' as the season wears on.
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I think you're contradicting yourself a bit there Dave. You said they have "no say" other than kick off times once the fixtures are released. They're clearly consulted a lot more than that, as the statement fom the bloke in charge says. Obviously no policing, no football match. Their insistence on moving the date of the Arsenal v Chelsea game at the back end of this season just gone shows the influence they have.
Sorry for my lack of grammatical perfection and clarity. The police do not insist in advance that certain fixtures don't be put on certain days but they do talk about generalisations, as do other agencies. Then once the fixtures are released they issue advice as and when required.
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Well it obviously does happen. Look at the opening and final day fixtures for the last ten years, and then work at the odds of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea never playing each other in those fixtures.
There are 190 potential fixture combinations any given weekend, 15 of which could be a combination of the 'Big Six', so around a 7% chance of them being paired together. Not that farfetched then that they wouldn't appear together on the final day of the season then.
Maths aside, it probably is likely that the Premier League / Sky etc. would keep the 'bigger' fixtures away from first / last days, boxing day etc. Guaranteed big TV audiences anyway, more excitable crowds etc., so why would they put the 'crown jewel' fixtures so to speak on those weekends.
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There are 190 potential fixture combinations any given weekend, 15 of which could be a combination of the 'Big Six', so around a 7% chance of them being paired together. Not that farfetched then that they wouldn't appear together on the final day of the season then.
Maths aside, it probably is likely that the Premier League / Sky etc. would keep the 'bigger' fixtures away from first / last days, boxing day etc. Guaranteed big TV audiences anyway, more excitable crowds etc., so why would they put the 'crown jewel' fixtures so to speak on those weekends.
That maths is well wonky mate. If everything was left completely to chance, and you picked one team at random, say Arsenal, they'd have a 1 in 19 chance of having a specific team drawn against them, ie about 5%. To have one of the other "Big 6" would be five chances out of 19, ie about 25%.
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There are 190 potential fixture combinations any given weekend, 15 of which could be a combination of the 'Big Six', so around a 7% chance of them being paired together. Not that farfetched then that they wouldn't appear together on the final day of the season then.
Maths aside, it probably is likely that the Premier League / Sky etc. would keep the 'bigger' fixtures away from first / last days, boxing day etc. Guaranteed big TV audiences anyway, more excitable crowds etc., so why would they put the 'crown jewel' fixtures so to speak on those weekends.
That maths is well wonky mate. If everything was left completely to chance, and you picked one team at random, say Arsenal, they'd have a 1 in 19 chance of having a specific team drawn against them, ie about 5%. To have one of the other "Big 6" would be five chances out of 19, ie about 25%.
But you're not picking the odds of Arsenal picking a big six team, you're picking the odds of one game on a particular matchday being a pair of two big six sides. There are 15 possible combinations of games between the top-six, out of a possible combination of 190 games between all sides in the league.
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For the first time since 1980 I really don’t care who we play in our early fixtures because I know we are going to give them a game and I expect a win!
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For the first time since 1980 I really don’t care who we play in our early fixtures because I know we are going to give them a game and I expect a win!
I was like that in 81 and we lost 1-0 at home to Notts County.
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There are 190 potential fixture combinations any given weekend, 15 of which could be a combination of the 'Big Six', so around a 7% chance of them being paired together. Not that farfetched then that they wouldn't appear together on the final day of the season then.
Maths aside, it probably is likely that the Premier League / Sky etc. would keep the 'bigger' fixtures away from first / last days, boxing day etc. Guaranteed big TV audiences anyway, more excitable crowds etc., so why would they put the 'crown jewel' fixtures so to speak on those weekends.
That maths is well wonky mate. If everything was left completely to chance, and you picked one team at random, say Arsenal, they'd have a 1 in 19 chance of having a specific team drawn against them, ie about 5%. To have one of the other "Big 6" would be five chances out of 19, ie about 25%.
But you're not picking the odds of Arsenal picking a big six team, you're picking the odds of one game on a particular matchday being a pair of two big six sides. There are 15 possible combinations of games between the top-six, out of a possible combination of 190 games between all sides in the league.
Not every combination is allowable, e.g. you couldn't have an opening day set of fixtures of:
Aston Villa vs Arsenal
Aston Villa vs Brentford
Aston Villa vs Chelsea
Aston Villa vs Nottm Forest
Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace
Aston Villa vs Man City
Aston Villa vs Man Utd
Aston Villa vs Tottenham Hotspur
Aston Villa vs Wolves
West Ham vs Aston Villa
... you know Arsenal are going to play a game in the opening set of fixtures, as will every other side in the Scab 6. So you're probably looking at more of a 5:19 (?) chance of two of that set of teams playing eachother on any given round of games.
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But you're not picking the odds of Arsenal picking a big six team, you're picking the odds of one game on a particular matchday being a pair of two big six sides. There are 15 possible combinations of games between the top-six, out of a possible combination of 190 games between all sides in the league.
Arsenal are one of the Big 6 though, and we're calculating the chances of there being one game between ANY of them. The chances of there being one game between two teams who make up 30% of the league is very much NOT 7%. That's nonsense sorry, you're just calculating the wrong thing entirely.
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My head hurts
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How come we only ever got fixtured against smallest heath in autumn and spring then?
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How come we only ever got fixtured against smallest heath in autumn and spring then?
Since they came up in 02 we've played league games in every month apart from August and May.
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Anybody know how fixtures were compiled years ago ?
I can't find anything on google.
I guess Alan Hardaker and his staff would be sat round a table in Lytham St Annes with pen and paper.
Would Sir William McGregor have had some input in the very early days ? "Let's play Preston early before they get into their stride".
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Anybody know how fixtures were compiled years ago ?
I can't find anything on google.
I guess Alan Hardaker and his staff would be sat round a table in Lytham St Annes with pen and paper.
Would Sir William McGregor have had some input in the very early days ? "Let's play Preston early before they get into their stride".
Pen and paper it was. Then again, with twelve clubs and eight months it wasn't that difficult.
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But you're not picking the odds of Arsenal picking a big six team, you're picking the odds of one game on a particular matchday being a pair of two big six sides. There are 15 possible combinations of games between the top-six, out of a possible combination of 190 games between all sides in the league.
Arsenal are one of the Big 6 though, and we're calculating the chances of there being one game between ANY of them. The chances of there being one game between two teams who make up 30% of the league is very much NOT 7%. That's nonsense sorry, you're just calculating the wrong thing entirely.
How come if you put 23 people in a room together there is a 50/50 chance that two of them share a birthday ?
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What do we all think about Spurs’ wage bill compared to ours, and the link between wage bill and league placing?
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Villadawg and Richard Hubbard, please come home.
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Sorry, somebody was doing maths wrong.
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I've heard the fixtures are out in mid June.
It's just after the transfer window officially opens
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I see Man City are in the Champions League final. What are the chances?!
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I've heard the fixtures are out in mid June.
It's just after the transfer window officially opens
A week tomorrow at 9am! I can barely sleep. :D
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Cant believe its so soon but its normal just because the season over ran due to WC we feel we need a break !
Rather get city liverpool or utd away out early but you just know it will be luton or sheff utd away
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Cant believe its so soon but its normal just because the season over ran due to WC we feel we need a break !
Rather get city liverpool or utd away out early but you just know it will be luton or sheff utd away
Well, it's unlikely to be Luton away because they've asked for their first couple of games to be away from home as they've got to upgrade the media facilities at Kenilworth Road.
Liverpool have also asked for their first game to be away from home due to the re-development of the Anfield Road end.
Which I guess means that we have a bit more of a chance of a home game first up.
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Cant believe its so soon but its normal just because the season over ran due to WC we feel we need a break !
Rather get city liverpool or utd away out early but you just know it will be luton or sheff utd away
Well, it's unlikely to be Luton away because they've asked for their first couple of games to be away from home as they've got to upgrade the media facilities at Kenilworth Road.
Liverpool have also asked for their first game to be away from home due to the re-development of the Anfield Road end.
Which I guess means that we have a bit more of a chance of a home game first up.
Thats great to know cheers. Well you just know then based on that then when their works are done their first game at home will be against us!
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So the last 2 seasons Villa have played a championship team as first away fixture of season.
Watford and Bournemouth
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So the last 2 seasons Villa have played a championship team as first away fixture of season.
Watford and Bournemouth
Hopefully Chelsea first up then
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Arsenal are one of the Big 6 though, and we're calculating the chances of there being one game between ANY of them. The chances of there being one game between two teams who make up 30% of the league is very much NOT 7%. That's nonsense sorry, you're just calculating the wrong thing entirely.
How come if you put 23 people in a room together there is a 50/50 chance that two of them share a birthday ?
They applied the Birthday Paradox to the 2022/23 PL squads and 10 of the teams had players with shared birthdays. Citeh and Newcastle had 2 sets apiece although Newcastle's squad had 28 players which raised the odds to 65/35. Yanited also had one shared birthday but their 31 man squad meant the odds were 73/27. Villa didn't have any (someone will probably blame the January transfer window for that as well).
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Burnley away would be about right
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We're getting Man City, I reckon
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Luton away, Monday night. Nailed on.
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Luton away, Monday night. Nailed on.
As mentioned by others in the thread, Luton have asked to be away while they do some work on the ground so nailed on not to be that.
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Luton away, Monday night. Nailed on.
As mentioned by others in the thread, Luton have asked to be away while they do some work on the ground so nailed on not to be that.
Luton at home in that case please. Saturday at 3pm.
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Home game vs Palace, Bournemouth, Everton, Forest or some other non entity like Spurs.
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I reckon either Sheffield United or Fulham away. Our first home 3pm game won't be until May.
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I'd like assurance from Mr Woodhall that we won't be away to a promoted club first.
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Newcastle or Brighton first up is my guess.
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Newcastle or Brighton first up is my guess.
It’s Newcastle at home 12:45 according to a leaked set of fixtures that are always wrong every year.
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Haha, brilliant. Brighton then!
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The TV switches (i.e Sat at 12.45pm) aren't announced until a few weeks after the initial fixture list.
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The early KO is 12:30.
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I reckon it will be Man City away.
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I reckon it will be Man City away.
Bring those cheating gits on.
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I reckon it will be Man City away.
Bring those cheating gits on.
Joe might still be pissed by then.
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Villa will ask for dispensation and an away game to start season as they are laying a new pitch (old one already dug up) and as we have 2 concerts and a Motorcross championship on it before hand.
Seems reasonable
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Villa will ask for dispensation and an away game to start season as they are laying a new pitch (old one already dug up) and as we have 2 concerts and a Motorcross championship on it before hand.
Seems reasonable
Perfectly. Particularly given the fact that I'm working on the opening Saturday.
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
That sounds about right, newly promoted team with a vociferous (and still optimistic) Bramall Lane cheering them on.
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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I'm on fucking holiday for the first couple of games and this would piss me off royally.
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I'm on fucking holiday for the first couple of games and this would piss me off royally.
I can't remember the last time we had a 'leak' that was correct regarding the new fixtures. Enjoy your holiday as we'll be nowhere near Sheff'
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The privileges committee report on the Liar is out at the same time tomorrow, we'll need Marty Feldman eyes to take it all in.
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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Are Luton playing over the park?
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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Photoshop by Michael age 12.
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I'm on fucking holiday for the first couple of games and this would piss me off royally.
I can't remember the last time we had a 'leak' that was correct regarding the new fixtures. Enjoy your holiday as we'll be nowhere near Sheff'
Oh absolutely, there's a 1 in 19 chance of it being right (if we have indeed requested to start away) I just really don't want it to be!
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I'm on fucking holiday for the first couple of games and this would piss me off royally.
Just get Jessica Ennis-Hill to change her holiday plans.
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I'm on fucking holiday for the first couple of games and this would piss me off royally.
Just get Jessica Ennis-Hill to change her holiday plans.
Nah, it looks nice.
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I'm sure professionals who have signed NDA's will be quite happy to have their picture taken of them holding a book open the relevant page, in huge text, while wearing a Polo shirt.
I doubt hard copies are made or that the fixtures are available in that format. More likely that each team has their 38 fixtures listed and it's the media that disseminate it by showing the first weekend's fixtures.
And Luton have requested an away fixture as they're doing some development to their ground.
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The fixtures aren't even completed yet. They're provisionally listed to interested parties a few days earlier and are sent out to the media with an embargo the day before.
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They are released at 9am...
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Considering we've asked for an away match, and those fixtures have both Liverpool sides playing away, I reckon that's just more made up stuff.
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Luton away nailed on.
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Luton away nailed on.
Even though they've also requested away games to start?
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Want a nice comfortable opener like Accrington at home but we'll probably get bloody Preston away.
Personally, I don't think this format will catch on.
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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fuck off with the promoted clubs on the opening day
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United away would be dangerous as they did reasonably well in Championship and will be well up for it backed by a passionate crowd for their first game.
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like Bournemouth last season and Watford the season before.
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Away to Sheffield United according to the latest ‘leak’
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I like the shit scrubbing out of the finger.
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My intuition .. : it will be away to a team from lower half of the table from last season and not a promoted team as they probably will get a top six team; Forest away and then Everton at home and that will a good way to start.
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But you're not picking the odds of Arsenal picking a big six team, you're picking the odds of one game on a particular matchday being a pair of two big six sides. There are 15 possible combinations of games between the top-six, out of a possible combination of 190 games between all sides in the league.
Arsenal are one of the Big 6 though, and we're calculating the chances of there being one game between ANY of them. The chances of there being one game between two teams who make up 30% of the league is very much NOT 7%. That's nonsense sorry, you're just calculating the wrong thing entirely.
I think the odds of there being one game with 2 of the Scab Six in it might be 31.579%.
The probability of there being at least one game with 2 of the Scab Six in it is obviously a little bit higher. Possibly 38.93% but that calc involved a dollop of supposition.
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We're new, we're improved, we will smash the absolute shit out of whoever's unfortunate enough to have to play us.
There'd be something poetic about it if it is Sheffield United. Like the bookendery of Glenn Whelan's penalty. We're leaving the old Villa behind.
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I couldn't care less who we play first. Emery has 2 months to put whoever it is to the sword. Its a great feeling!
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They are released at 9am...
Which is when the embargo is for.
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Forest away and for us all to get locked in a train station concourse.
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Man United away, victory at Old Trafford, what better way to start the season.
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Whoever it is I bet the planning begins at about one minute past the hour.
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If it is Sheffield United I bet absolutely no one will mention that "Villa would have been relegated" if the goal line technology was working
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Newcastle away
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It's gonna be a newly promoted side, just to piss me off
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Geordies away it is then
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Newcastle away
Tough start
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Tough opener
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They’ll also be thinking it’s a tough start against us (hopefully)
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Lifting the title at home to Liverpool is going to be fucking sweet
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Interestingly our first game of every month is an away game.
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Tough in general. 5 of the trickiest aways games first.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
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Everton at home on the 19th. Hmm! Can get a flight from Perpignan to BHX and back for that. Wahey!
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Nearly a quarter of the season in December. And some interesting games.
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7 fixtures in December, fucking hell
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Brighton away last game! Love a seaside away game in the sun. ;D
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3 out of first 4 away, bollocks.
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Is it me, or do we have a tricky start and a tricky run-in?
Newcastle away, Liverpool away, Chelsea away in opening six and Man City away, Arsenal away, and Chelsea at home in last six.
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Brighton away last game! Love a seaside away game in the sun. ;D
Palace away is the last game.
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Nobody will be want to play us. Fuck them all. Away again first game. There’s a surprise
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Not much gap between Man U games, Boxing day and mid Feb.
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Burnley and Liverpool will both be moved to Sunday because of the ECL play off. Hopefully a few more moved too.
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7 fixtures in December, fucking hell
That's without potential league cup and europa games aswell. That's why we need a decent squad given that's the part of the season where injuries can hit hard.
January is a bit of a mess. I think they said new year is too close to FA cup weekend so that's been scrapped and they're doing a winter break with 5 fixtures on alternate weekends so we've got a two and a half week break unless we do something radical and win in FA cup third round.
As usual there are hard parts of the season and easier parts.
Think having a run of Everton, Palace, Brighton, West Ham, Luton and Fulham at home up to December defines our season, we need to be winning 4-5 of those to be comfortable top half.
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Two things about our first fixture.
1. We won't be serving up anything like we did in our first game V Bournmouth last season.
2. We won't be getting tonked 4-0 by Newcastle either.
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Listening to Sly sports we may as well not bother. They’ve interviewed some bloke in a Chelsea top and we haven’t got the resources apparently and they’ll be pushing for the title.
They really do live in their own little bubble.
Not too bad for us and spread out quite well.
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It just goes to show the folly of a break. Just even out the fixtures you fucking idiots.
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Burnley and Liverpool will both be moved to Sunday because of the ECL play off. Hopefully a few more moved too.
Chelsea away,
Wolves away,
Luton home,
Fulham home,
Bournemouth away,
Brentford away
I think.
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So, first game of the season away. Three out of the first four games away. Last game of the season away. Boxing Day game away. How does that work then?
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Burnley and Liverpool will both be moved to Sunday because of the ECL play off. Hopefully a few more moved too.
Chelsea away,
Wolves away,
Luton home,
Fulham home,
Bournemouth away,
Brentford away
I think.
Correct. Man City home won't be a Tuesday either
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Everton always seems to be early in the season. Our whipping boys too.
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Six clubs both start and end the season with away matches...
Forest
Fulham
Spurds
Villa
WHAM!
Wolves
Six clubs both start and end at home...
Burnley
Arsenal
Brighton
Sheffield Utd
Brentford
Chelsea
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On an unnecessary irrational hatred stakes I hate the phrase ‘match day’
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On an unnecessary irrational hatred stakes I hate the phrase ‘match day’
Much better than than the annoying americanism “Game Day” that seems to have taken over lately.
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Oh agreed.
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Every game at the start of each month is away from home
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Is it me, or do we have a tricky start and a tricky run-in?
I know you have to play everyone at some stage, but it does feel that way.
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I see Chelsea start off with Liverpool at home, proving yet again that the Scab Six don't play each other on the opening weekend.
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Pleased that we’re away on Boxing Day. Travel is always a pain in the arse.
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Pleased that we’re away on Boxing Day. Travel is always a pain in the arse.
At least it's an easy fixture.
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Every game at the start of each month is away from home
Typical of PL, never ever want us to have a home game to start the month. I am fed up with it.
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We didn't get a promoted side away on the first day but early on enough - Burnley.
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Every game at the start of each month is away from home
Typical of PL, never ever want us to have a home game to start the month. I am fed up with it.
I'd heard we'd requested it for some reason
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Is it me, or do we have a tricky start and a tricky run-in?
I know you have to play everyone at some stage, but it does feel that way.
Just had a look at Everton's run of games. No wonder they never get relegated....
First 5 games:
Fulham home, us away, Wolves home, Sheffield United away, Arsenal home
Last 5:
Forest home, Brentford home, Luton away, Sheffield United home, Arsenal away.
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So, first game of the season away. Three out of the first four games away. Last game of the season away. Boxing Day game away. How does that work then?
Bastards, have it in for us😡
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17:30 KO
On TV then
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So, first game of the season away. Three out of the first four games away. Last game of the season away. Boxing Day game away. How does that work then?
Bastards, have it in for us😡
I know people joke, but they definitely have rigged it to make it really difficult for us to progress. If you look carefully at the fixtures, you'll find that absolutely all of our league matches this season are against top flight opposition. That doesn't happen by accident.
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Just to add the Newcastle game has been moved to 5.30pm so presumably we are on tv.
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
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Is it me, or do we have a tricky start and a tricky run-in?
I know you have to play everyone at some stage, but it does feel that way.
Just had a look at Everton's run of games. No wonder they never get relegated....
First 5 games:
Fulham home, us away, Wolves home, Sheffield United away, Arsenal home
Last 5:
Forest home, Brentford home, Luton away, Sheffield United home, Arsenal away.
So what? Everyone plays everyone home and away. You don’t get more points for wins in the first 5 or last 5. And anyway they play 2 off last years top 7 in their first 5, and two of last years top 9 in their last 5, so not ridiculous.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
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Every game at the start of each month is away from home
Typical of PL, never ever want us to have a home game to start the month. I am fed up with it.
I'd heard we'd requested it for some reason
It might actually be because of the events over the summer and needing a bit of extra time for the pitch to be at its best.
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
Isn't it because of the pitch after all the summer entertainment on it?
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
Isn't it because of the pitch after all the summer entertainment on it?
And Brooooce.
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Newcastle have a pretty tricky start as well. First 4 games are Us (H), Man City (A), Liverpool (H) and Brighton (A).
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It could have been worse I reckon we can get nine points from our first three games.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
If you can't be excited by this side and this manager then you're a tough crowd to please.
Flip the fixtures on their head and there's no way you'd look forward to playing us- as it should be. With that home form too, hopefully grand old Villa Park being a glorious but comfortable place to come and play a game has gone too.
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Everton at home on the 19th. Hmm! Can get a flight from Perpignan to BHX and back for that. Wahey!
Hang on! In my euphoria, I forgot that the TV bastards will probably move this to a Monday or something. *Shuts Ryanair app down, gloomily*
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Everton @ home will be a Sunday due to the Conference League play off, I believe
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Everton @ home will be a Sunday due to the Conference League play off, I believe
No as play off first leg is 24th.
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The worst thing about having Newcastle on the first game of the season is that every time I google Villa I'll get 10 results from The Mag obsessing over us.
It's bad enough when it's mid-season and just a few weeks either side of the fixture, but now it'll be months.
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Everton @ home will be a Sunday due to the Conference League play off, I believe
No as play off first leg is 24th.
Not sure what I read as thought it was all a week earlier than it actually is. That's inconvenient for me
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The worst thing about having Newcastle on the first game of the season is that every time I google Villa I'll get 10 results from The Mag obsessing over us.
It's bad enough when it's mid-season and just a few weeks either side of the fixture, but now it'll be months.
ROFL, so true there was even an article on Purslow leaving, because he’d mentioned them in that interview with Beth Rigby.
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We'll go there and fuck the fuckers and the Toon will be straight into a mini crisis on the first day of the season.
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Don't mind playing Newcastle first game, I look forward to the opportunity of pissing on their parade. They'll be expecting top 4 as standard now and I wouldn't mind giving them a reality check.
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Newcastle have us, Man City (a), Liverpool, Brighton (a). There's been gentler starts.
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The worst thing about having Newcastle on the first game of the season is that every time I google Villa I'll get 10 results from The Mag obsessing over us.
It's bad enough when it's mid-season and just a few weeks either side of the fixture, but now it'll be months.
ROFL, so true there was even an article on Purslow leaving, because he’d mentioned them in that interview with Beth Rigby.
I saw the one of them going on about him mentioning them, but not the second one I am glad to say. I'm careful not to click on anything from them!
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
If you can't be excited by this side and this manager then you're a tough crowd to please.
Flip the fixtures on their head and there's no way you'd look forward to playing us- as it should be. With that home form too, hopefully grand old Villa Park being a glorious but comfortable place to come and play a game has gone too.
Absolutely right about this team of ours. We have been scoring a la mancity. Never known a period even in 80/81 when we kicked off and within 10 mins or so we score and we do so by just moving the ball in quick concise way. I would love what we have witnessed to continue this coming season.
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According to my calculations, we will be lifting the trophy on May 3rd. Probably worth booking the train tickets now.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
If you can't be excited by this side and this manager then you're a tough crowd to please.
Flip the fixtures on their head and there's no way you'd look forward to playing us- as it should be. With that home form too, hopefully grand old Villa Park being a glorious but comfortable place to come and play a game has gone too.
Absolutely right about this team of ours. We have been scoring a la mancity. Never known a period even in 80/81 when we kicked off and within 10 mins or so we score and we do so by just moving the ball in quick concise way. I would love what we have witnessed to continue this coming season.
That's the inner Brummie whispering "but what if it was all just a blip of exceptional form?". But then that gets shouted down by who our manager is. He's so meticulous, luck doesn't come into it. This has to be one of the most exciting times in my Villa supporting career. Its all on a plate for us, no better manager, owners, good players, money to spend. If not now, it's never.
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That's the inner Brummie whispering "but what if it was all just a blip of exceptional form?". But then that gets shouted down by who our manager is. He's so meticulous, luck doesn't come into it. This has to be one of the most exciting times in my Villa supporting career. Its all on a plate for us, no better manager, owners, good players, money to spend. If not now, it's never.
Absolutely. If we can't win anything in the next few seasons with all the things we have going for us, football is over as a competition.
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All our fixtures in August are in reverse alphabetical order. Newcastle,,,Everton...Burnley.
Coincidence ? Maybe.
However the same happens in September. Liverpool...Crystal Palace...Chelsea...Brighton.
What are the chances ? Now I'm getting suspicious....Maybe the Premier League are sending us subliminal messages......Go into reverse ! Backwards ! Down !
Think I'm crazy and paranoid ? Guess what ...check out October.
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What on earth is the point of a two week break in January if it means that you have to flog players until they drop in December?
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Sky 6's last day fixtures
Arsenal v Everton, Brighton v Man United, Chelsea v Bournemouth, Liverpool v Wolves, Man City v West Ham and Sheffield United v Spurs
So that'll make it 15 seasons, when they haven't met each other on the last day.
Including the next season, below shows the number of times other clubs will have played the Sky 6 on the last day over the 15 seasons. Everton are the only club who will have played in every one of the seasons.
Everton 8 times, Newcastle 6, Villa 5, Brighton, Palace, West Ham and Burnley 3.
Now if that's not damming evidence that the Sky 6 have an arrangement, with the Premier League, not sure, what is.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
If you can't be excited by this side and this manager then you're a tough crowd to please.
Flip the fixtures on their head and there's no way you'd look forward to playing us- as it should be. With that home form too, hopefully grand old Villa Park being a glorious but comfortable place to come and play a game has gone too.
Absolutely right about this team of ours. We have been scoring a la mancity. Never known a period even in 80/81 when we kicked off and within 10 mins or so we score and we do so by just moving the ball in quick concise way. I would love what we have witnessed to continue this coming season.
That's the inner Brummie whispering "but what if it was all just a blip of exceptional form?". But then that gets shouted down by who our manager is. He's so meticulous, luck doesn't come into it. This has to be one of the most exciting times in my Villa supporting career. Its all on a plate for us, no better manager, owners, good players, money to spend. If not now, it's never.
For probably the first time ever I agree with you Ads :) Cheers buddy - all the best VCTM
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I bet Newcastle doesnt like to play us after the 3-0 t VP recently, we where in total control all game through. If we get a draw there, win the next two and get a draw at Anfield as we did recently it will be a fantastic start.
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
Isn't it because of the pitch after all the summer entertainment on it?
Straight after the Motorcross thing (which ticket sales are alleged to be piss poor) the boards for the concerts come up and new pitch is laid - old one already dug up and gone.
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Sky 6's last day fixtures
Arsenal v Everton, Brighton v Man United, Chelsea v Bournemouth, Liverpool v Wolves, Man City v West Ham and Sheffield United v Spurs
So that'll make it 15 seasons, when they haven't met each other on the last day.
Including the next season, below shows the number of times other clubs will have played the Sky 6 on the last day over the 15 seasons. Everton are the only club who will have played in every one of the seasons.
Everton 8 times, Newcastle 6, Villa 5, Brighton, Palace, West Ham and Burnley 3.
Now if that's not damming evidence that the Sky 6 have an arrangement, with the Premier League, not sure, what is.
Surely from Sky point of view and also for PL publicity they would prefer last day to mega fest of so called 6 playing each other for title and ECL position deciders?
Anyway your argument further falls apart when you look at Liverpool playing #Levels Wolves, who are by now surely top 6.
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All our fixtures in August are in reverse alphabetical order. Newcastle,,,Everton...Burnley.
Coincidence ? Maybe.
However the same happens in September. Liverpool...Crystal Palace...Chelsea...Brighton.
What are the chances ? Now I'm getting suspicious....Maybe the Premier League are sending us subliminal messages......Go into reverse ! Backwards ! Down !
Think I'm crazy and paranoid ? Guess what ...check out October.
ALITA that is very sinister and shows dark forces at work to undermine our progress but fuck em we will thump em on reverse order as well.
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
Isn't it because of the pitch after all the summer entertainment on it?
Straight after the Motorcross thing (which ticket sales are alleged to be piss poor) the boards for the concerts come up and new pitch is laid - old one already dug up and gone.
They also need time to install the safe standing area/rails in the Upper Holte and work on that Terrace Bar
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Sky 6's last day fixtures
Arsenal v Everton, Brighton v Man United, Chelsea v Bournemouth, Liverpool v Wolves, Man City v West Ham and Sheffield United v Spurs
So that'll make it 15 seasons, when they haven't met each other on the last day.
Including the next season, below shows the number of times other clubs will have played the Sky 6 on the last day over the 15 seasons. Everton are the only club who will have played in every one of the seasons.
Everton 8 times, Newcastle 6, Villa 5, Brighton, Palace, West Ham and Burnley 3.
Now if that's not damming evidence that the Sky 6 have an arrangement, with the Premier League, not sure, what is.
Surely from Sky point of view and also for PL publicity they would prefer last day to mega fest of so called 6 playing each other for title and ECL position deciders?
Anyway your argument further falls apart when you look at Liverpool playing #Levels Wolves, who are by now surely top 6.
Nah, last day of the season is always going to be interesting regardless of who plays. They need BIG MATCHES in the depths of November to keep the TV money rolling in. In that respect, it makes more sense to keep Liverpool vs Chelsea or whatever back for a rainy day, no point in wasting your BIG MATCHES on the first/last day of the season which are going to have big viewing figures since they're already BIG MATCHES on account of when they're being played.
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All our fixtures in August are in reverse alphabetical order. Newcastle,,,Everton...Burnley.
Coincidence ? Maybe.
However the same happens in September. Liverpool...Crystal Palace...Chelsea...Brighton.
What are the chances ? Now I'm getting suspicious....Maybe the Premier League are sending us subliminal messages......Go into reverse ! Backwards ! Down !
Think I'm crazy and paranoid ? Guess what ...check out October.
This is genius, its all true!!
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Looks to me like the Sky fuckers are worried about us joining their precious clan and have hand selected fixtures to keep us at bay. Won’t work, we’ve got Unai! Muhahaha!!!
What do you mean? We play everyone. I think we asked for our first game to be away.
Isn't it because of the pitch after all the summer entertainment on it?
Straight after the Motorcross thing (which ticket sales are alleged to be piss poor) the boards for the concerts come up and new pitch is laid - old one already dug up and gone.
So you're saying my brother won't be on the pitch at the Springsteen gig tomorrow? He will be disappointed
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Whenever we talk about a new pitch I always think of and shudder at the word Souters.
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Amazon picks
Villa v 115 x cheats - Tue 5th Dec
Man Utd v Villa - 26th Dec
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All things considered, including the other games that are scheduled for that weekend, there looks to be every chance that our first home game, v Everton, will remain a Saturday 3pm kick off.
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What on earth is the point of a two week break in January if it means that you have to flog players until they drop in December?
So that clubs involved in the Champions League can rest and recuperate, recuperate by playing some money spinning games in China, USA and Australia.
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Be a cracking away day up there in August. Bring every last fucker on, couldn't careless who we play or when, this is a new Villa.
That is a totally out of character post for you. Normally you are the epitome of pessimism.😊
Ads a pessimist? When did that happen as I'm sure as late as December 2015 he was still producing mini essays on here saying how we could still stay up!
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Newcastle A on the telly, Everton H on a clear weekend off work. Like it...