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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Nii Lamptey on April 24, 2023, 05:50:52 PM
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Looks like rumours are true. 15% increase across the board just announced… Wilma is gonna have a field day!
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How do I see what I paid last year?
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How do I see what I paid last year?
If you log on to your account and go to payments, it should show up there.
I’m in middle of trinity upper, and by my reckoning it’s gone up from £752 to £865
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Mine has gone up to £779. It's too big an increase really.
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Yep, as posted in another thread, Zone 2:
21/22 - £615
22/23 - £677 (10%)
23/24 - £779 (15%)
26.7% over 2 years.
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Mine in the North Stand has gone up from £531 this season to £728 for next season.
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Thank you. I'm to find £321 extra for the same 2 x tickets. We'd better be as good next year.
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Mine is now £779 increase of £102 in the upper trinity
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Mine in the North Stand has gone up from £531 this season to £728 for next season.
That's what 40-45%
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37% ?
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On the OS, it says there are 33,000 on the waiting list. The figure seems to vary wildly.
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37% ?
Yeah 37/38% increase almost £200 .....bit of a pisstake .
Be close too, if not over £1000 in the new North when built I'd imagine
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Mine is the same 532 to 728 upper north stand. Wow.
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On the OS, it says there are 33,000 on the waiting list. The figure seems to vary wildly.
I've seen the email a friend of a friend got, and they were in place 30000, so its at least that currently.
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https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1650537711822938114?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
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On the OS, it says there are 33,000 on the waiting list. The figure seems to vary wildly.
I've seen the email a friend of a friend got, and they were in place 30000, so its at least that currently.
One of my mates is around the 28k mark, so you can see why the club are pushing their luck. Demand is far greater than supply, so they are proper milking it.
All it will lead to is the more vocal working class support being priced out of the club. Atmosphere will be flat and a ground full of prawn sandwiches and half n half scarves.
*has Wilma hacked my account!?
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Renewed with the 8 month option, but the total price made my eyes water
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"Different journeys. One destination"
Yeah.... bankruptcy & fucking foodbanks for me at those prices
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Mines gone up by £102, I only buy my own , it's still a big hit. If you are in the North Stand upper and buy for family kids etc that a massive hit.
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Further evidence that the club (along with most other premier division clubs) want rid of the working class. Apparently the Trinity middle blocks are getting a padded seat and a tie/scarf which will see a further increase.
Those North Stand prices seem ridiculous, they were always cheap as nobody used to sit up there even though the view is great.
On top of that the one benefit of a free cup ticket has been removed . The ' Villa Rewards' scheme is crap they just give you stuff for your points that couldn't be sold in the village
And the facilities (even with the new self-serve machines) are crap. the pour your own beer has been turned off the last couple of games as it turned into a disaster
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With the money in the game it's just wrong. We're no worse than anyone else but the whole thing is rotten.
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Yup, its now costing me well north of a grand for me and my kid, if circumstances change they'd lose me for good as I simply couldn't be arsed to go through the agonies of the website every game to try and get a ticket for upwards of £50 a game.
Its not just us and its been going on forever but you do think that the next generation of fans is being ignored through ticket prices and availability.
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The late Terry Wills of WM fame called it right when he dubbed the Premier League "the greed league"
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Is it possible to buy a season ticket if you sell your house to pay for it, or do you have to have a fixed address on your ticket account?
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My renewal for me, my 16 year old daughter and 13 year old son in L2 in the lower holte is £984, thats a £203 or 26% rise for the combined price for the three of us. Its an absolute piss take to be honest and its going to be really hard to justify to my wife. My daughter has missed a few games this year as teenage life takes over, unfortunately may have to have serious conversation about whether she wants to renew. Shite to be honest.
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I'm desperate for us to compete with the big boys and don't suppose I should be surprised when our ticket prices start to rise towards those we expect to match on the field. But it still feels shit and I really do wonder what tangible difference a few million quid on revenue truly makes when you think of it in context with a players wages.
But I guess we can look at it as this price rise is a few million quid, but the bigger picture is that the club probably view it as the second in many steps to bridging a gap that is probably £20-40m+ compared to the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd and Spurs.
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We're paying for the club's inability to grow commercial revenue over the past thirty years.
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Yeah I had that serious conversation with my kid earlier, she's having none of it. Hey ho.
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The fact that the the match day experience outside the actual football is still a shit show.
Purslow has no class, covering the stadium with billboards, drowning out any atmosphere with the ridiculous pre match music and the least said about the catering the better.
And to Dave’s point above, the commercial side is poorly run with tacky merchandise and shifty sponsors.
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Yeah I had that serious conversation with my kid earlier, she's having none of it. Hey ho.
I think thats my conversation will go and tbh and she gets older, im loathe to give up one of the only things we’ll probs do together, but that price hike!!
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Some good points made here: https://twitter.com/Jamorushton/status/1650550432853372941
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
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Is it me? When I click on all the season ticket information & excuses etc, I can find no general list/info of the prices round the ground? Ominously, it keeps showing 'error' when I try to renew 2 tickets in Trinity B5... Anyone know why?
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Nope, I got as far as adding my existing ones to the basket for payment, before deciding I will wait until the last possible moment.
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
Like it or lump it .
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
I don't doubt that for a second.
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
It all adds up. 40K people all paying £300 more is £12m a year.
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I can't actually see a grid with the various prices. Am I missing something?
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Last season I paid £370 for my ssn tkt.
£531 this season.
Likely to be approx £610 next season.
That’s a 65% increase within the space of 12 months (over 3 seasons) for the same seat!
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Not only can I not see the prices, the 2 seats we have had for 21 seasons are showing 'these seats are already occupied'. WTFF!
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Not only can I not see the prices, the 2 seats we have had for 21 seasons are showing 'these seats are already occupied'. WTFF!
You expect to be able to sit on a seat on your own without sharing it? Well really.
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Is it possible to live a season ticket now for next year ? Or does that only happen at the end of the season ?
The price hike is a lot. Luckily it’s just me, I can take the hit. I feel for parents who take a couple of kids !
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
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Im surprised that they haven’t considered offering an opportunity to pay a fee to move towards the front of the waiting list. I reckon people would definitely pay to jump the queue… (Purslow, this isn’t genuine feedback, my tongue is firmly in cheek)
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Prices are a piss take now, it's why I don't go any more as I won't pay it out of principle. And never forget, a big selling point at the launch of the Premier League back in the day was how the extra money for clubs would help keep ticket prices low for fans. That worked out well.
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Perhaps Purslow needs to go and talk to the Bundesliga to see how they look after their fans.
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Perhaps Purslow needs to go and talk to the Bundesliga to see how they look after their fans.
Maybe it's his way of getting his own back for us spoiling his Gerrard vanity project.....
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Is it me? When I click on all the season ticket information & excuses etc, I can find no general list/info of the prices round the ground? Ominously, it keeps showing 'error' when I try to renew 2 tickets in Trinity B5... Anyone know why?
I think B5 is one of the areas to have a padded seat and scarf - for a premium of course!
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Theres a new corporate section. 1888 club.
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In the section, 'Background to Season Ticket Pricing and Stadium Changes', the bullshit bullet points on benchmarking and economic pressures could have been shortened to one sentence. 'We have a big waiting list, so renew your season ticket or fuck off'.
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
That's it pretty much.
The Premier league is such a magnet now that there'd demand locally and globally to watch it so if a 20-30 year diehard watcher dosen't want to go someone else will come in quick.
Purslow should've instead put a 5% reduction instead as gesture of thanks for us all having to put up with his decision to inflict Gerrard on us for a year!
With the upcoming stadium reduction I'm not too surprised he's gone for one year of milking matchday revenue to the extreme.
We're no different to Fulham. Was reading interview with their owner on Saturday and he justified charging 100 quid in some parts of the ground as it's only a small percentage and those tickets sold out in an hour so if people continue to pay then clubs will keep on upping the prices for matchday and season tickets.
Curious how many will just renew as usual or decide to start pick and choosing games next season?
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BTW this is without qualifying for europe. You can bet anything if we make europa league and get two good teams in our group it will be 30-40 quid prices for that aswell!
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Don't forget to add this onto your increases
Aston Villa are one of the only clubs in the Premier League to include free domestic home cup games within their season ticket product offering. The Club believes it is reasonable to remove this benefit from next season whilst ensuring all of our loyal season ticket holders continue to have priority access to Cup games.
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Don't forget to add this onto your increases
Aston Villa are one of the only clubs in the Premier League to include free domestic home cup games within their season ticket product offering. The Club believes it is reasonable to remove this benefit from next season whilst ensuring all of our loyal season ticket holders continue to have priority access to Cup games.
They just keep on giving today.
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watch us go on home cup runs now
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I asked this question under another thread earlier today, but answer came there none. Asking it again now, under this thread, as it may be pertinent to the matter of people deciding whether or not to renew season tickets. Question is - does anyone know how many claret members there currently are?
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UTV but My ST has gone up 216% in just two years. Outrageous. L6 Lower Holte Over 66 21/22 £270 22/23 £405 23/24 £584 Fleecing those on fixed incomes. And they made it Over 66 instead of Over 65. Really taking the piss. As someone else posted they had better be good next year!
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
Same here. The bogs are hell in the Upper Doug. I gave up on getting a drink at half time many tears ago, and bring a flask.
Great view, TBF.
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Matt Kendrick on Twitter has said we have scrapped the admin fee for buying season tickets.
He put an emoji at the end of the tweet, but I have never understood those wee fuckers.
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I'm the reason the prices are going up.
I will have attended 15 home games by the end of the season as a Claret Member (not sure how many of us there are). I'm 12500 on the waiting list and I'd pay the prices being quoted for a season ticket, because I really want one.
You're all the reason too, because not one person has said they aren't paying, yet. Obviously I'm hoping season tickets are offered to me and whilst there's part of me that doesn't want anyone to stop going because they can't afford it, I also know the reason people will give their ticket up is unlikely to be because the football is crap, the hope is gone, or that we'll be relegated.
The rises are big, but the ticket prices aren't out of kilter with other teams. With this manager, results are being delivered and expectations and hopes are rising. They will go up again next year, and the year after too.
I'd much rather ticket prices were capped, but the market and the owners of all the clubs will say no to that. FFP and the desire to compete will say no to that.
We don't compete commercially right now and haven't for a very long time. Expect that to change, beginning with us, because it's the fans that drive the commercial revenue, whether it's through tickets, shopping or advertising.
We're now facing the reality of what success will mean. None of us like it, but we are enjoying the football, the improvement and the hope. We just have to pay for it.
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I'm the reason the prices are going up.
I will have attended 15 home games by the end of the season as a Claret Member (not sure how many of us there are). I'm 12500 on the waiting list and I'd pay the prices being quoted for a season ticket, because I really want one.
You're all the reason too, because not one person has said they aren't paying, yet. Obviously I'm hoping season tickets are offered to me and whilst there's part of me that doesn't want anyone to stop going because they can't afford it, I also know the reason people will give their ticket up is unlikely to be because the football is crap, the hope is gone, or that we'll be relegated.
The rises are big, but the ticket prices aren't out of kilter with other teams. With this manager, results are being delivered and expectations and hopes are rising. They will go up again next year, and the year after too.
I'd much rather ticket prices were capped, but the market and the owners of all the clubs will say no to that. FFP and the desire to compete will say no to that.
We don't compete commercially right now and haven't for a very long time. Expect that to change, beginning with us, because it's the fans that drive the commercial revenue, whether it's through tickets, shopping or advertising.
We're now facing the reality of what success will mean. None of us like it, but we are enjoying the football, the improvement and the hope. We just have to pay for it.
Would it annoy you that my 2yo is ahead of you Drummond at 12,118?
You can elbow me in the ribs tomorrow night.
Her first game will be Spurs in a couple of weeks, wish me luck with two little ones (imagine your own concerned/bonkers emoji).
There isn’t a chance we’d have that much turnover close season is there?
Is hard to imagine many dropping out at this point in the (hopefully) club’s development.
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I saw a Twitter poll the other day and I think it was around 20% said they wouldn’t renew. A Twitter poll is very different to reality though.
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Would it annoy you that my 2yo is ahead of you Drummond at 12,118?
You can elbow me in the ribs tomorrow night.
Her first game will be Spurs in a couple of weeks, wish me luck with two little ones (imagine your own concerned/bonkers emoji).
There isn’t a chance we’d have that much turnover close season is there?
Is hard to imagine many dropping out at this point in the (hopefully) club’s development.
I'm pleased for you! Though if she was added to the list after me (and my lad) I'd want to understand why..
I'm guessing that we may get close to getting one when the capacity increases by 10k. And that's just the way it is,...
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I saw a Twitter poll the other day and I think it was around 20% said they wouldn’t renew. A Twitter poll is very different to reality though.
I don't think there will be anywhere near that level of drop off. People say it but when the reality hits the situation is very different.
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
Same here. The bogs are hell in the Upper Doug. I gave up on getting a drink at half time many tears ago, and bring a flask.
Great view, TBF.
Upper Doug we are the ultimate mushrooms in the cupboard….the entire season ticket has to be for the fantastic view because the facilities in that stand are league 2 standard and have had no updates in well over a decade….the toilets are shoddy, there are very few ladies cubicles, the refreshments in terms of choice and speed of service are contemptible.
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I think the issue with many is you're paying a premium price for horrendous facilities. That's always why the north stand was heavily discounted. You can't move in the upper Doug and all around the service is shocking.
A number of us on here provided simple solutions but the club wasted thousands on self -serve rubbish that's hasn't improved anything
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
Same here. The bogs are hell in the Upper Doug. I gave up on getting a drink at half time many tears ago, and bring a flask.
Great view, TBF.
Upper Doug we are the ultimate mushrooms in the cupboard….the entire season ticket has to be for the fantastic view because the facilities in that stand are league 2 standard and have had no updates in well over a decade….the toilets are shoddy, there are very few ladies cubicles, the refreshments in terms of choice and speed of service are contemptible.
Hate the stand, love the view.
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I think the issue with many is you're paying a premium price for horrendous facilities. That's always why the north stand was heavily discounted. You can't move in the upper Doug and all around the service is shocking.
A number of us on here provided simple solutions but the club wasted thousands on self -serve rubbish that's hasn't improved anything
The self service system has definitely made it much easier to get a drink in the Lower Holte if you want one.
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Where do you see where you are on the waiting list?
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Where do you see where you are on the waiting list?
What waiting list?
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I've seen a graphic that indicates we're still the 15th cheapest ticket in the league (assuming Chelsea don't suddenly reduce their prices by a grand).
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My over 66 ticket in L3 seems to have increased in price by about a third. Bit of a shock, thought 15% was the general figure? The days of 50% discount for pensioners is a distant memory 🙁
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Where do you see where you are on the waiting list?
What waiting list?
The season ticket waiting list?
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Priority access to away games for season ticket holders - does this mean if you are a season ticket holder you will be able to buy away ticket games?
At least there are no booking fees LOL.
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This looks like a straw that could break a lot of camels' backs. £41 a game. Hefty.
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This looks like a straw that could break a lot of camels' backs. £41 a game. Hefty.
That's kind of my point; I pay £40 to be a claret member then pay full price for single tickets. Buying a season ticket means it will be less for me (if/when I get one).
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For me, I'm getting a great view and shoddy facilities and woeful service for my £41 a game. For me that's no better than ok in terms of value and if we went anywhere near £50 per game I'd expect to have much better facilities and service. I'm in the fortunate position of being able to afford it but can quite understand why others can't.
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They’re taking the piss. There’s no other reason for this than to squeeze more money from a captive audience. And I don’t give a shit how our prices compare to Spurs or whichever other clubs fleece their fans even more than Villa.
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They’re taking the piss. There’s no other reason for this than to squeeze more money from a captive audience. And I don’t give a shit how our prices compare to Spurs or whichever other clubs fleece their fans even more than Villa.
I agree, they’re putting up prices so much because they know they can get away with it because mugs like me will pay it. The general cost of living rises meant I was expecting to pay more but 15% is just taking the piss.
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They’re taking the piss. There’s no other reason for this than to squeeze more money from a captive audience. And I don’t give a shit how our prices compare to Spurs or whichever other clubs fleece their fans even more than Villa.
Absolutely this.
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My lad moved 2000 places up the queue in the summer - so less than a 6% drop-off/churn rate. This might increase slightly, but I think with what's happening on the pitch it won't change too much. It seems a long way from gates of less than 30000 just over three years ago.
As one of our group said - it would have been good to reward the loyalty of fans that have stuck with the club - maybe a discount or free ticket for those who endured all of the last 10 years or so.
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My lad moved 2000 places up the queue in the summer - so less than a 6% drop-off/churn rate. This might increase slightly, but I think with what's happening on the pitch it won't change too much. It seems a long way from gates of less than 30000 just over three years ago.
As one of our group said - it would have been good to reward the loyalty of fans that have stuck with the club - maybe a discount or free ticket for those who endured all of the last 10 years or so.
I wouldn't qualify but I wouldn't disagree with this, they could just offer a loyalty voucher based on the booking history
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What is the new 1888 seating area? (the blocks either side of the Directors & hospitality) I assume it's hospitality light? Fortunately, it doesn't affect me but I can't find any info on it.
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
Same here. The bogs are hell in the Upper Doug. I gave up on getting a drink at half time many tears ago, and bring a flask.
Great view, TBF.
Upper Doug we are the ultimate mushrooms in the cupboard….the entire season ticket has to be for the fantastic view because the facilities in that stand are league 2 standard and have had no updates in well over a decade….the toilets are shoddy, there are very few ladies cubicles, the refreshments in terms of choice and speed of service are contemptible.
I agree. I tend to sit there if I switch seats to take a friend as the view is really good - in fact I'm in there tonight. But the corridor behind and the facilities is disgusting really.
I'm concerned that once they've carved out the upper Holte premium lounge the remaining area will be incredibly tight too. Nothing like the Witton, but even so much worse than it currently is now. I think this is a huge backwards step for fan experience.
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I remain convinced that we should have identified a site somewhere else and just knocked the whole bloody thing down and started again.
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just clicked on the Villa website - my season ticket in the lower Holte is going to be £779.00.
It will be interesting to see how many do renew.
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If this wasn't my last season of paying full price (I'm 65 July) I probably would say goodbye to being a season ticket holder for over 25 years. The fact that I get to see old friends and have a drink with them before and after the match is now one of the main reasons to renew.
I don't believe the threat to us that there are 30,000 +waiting for our seat and how many of those will stand by the club if ever we went through the downward spiral of the previous 10 years?
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
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£780 for the upper doug concourse... Pretty sickening. Over 20 years season ticket and starting to wonder whether it's worth it anymore.
You can't even have a piss at half time.
Same here. The bogs are hell in the Upper Doug. I gave up on getting a drink at half time many tears ago, and bring a flask.
Great view, TBF.
Upper Doug we are the ultimate mushrooms in the cupboard….the entire season ticket has to be for the fantastic view because the facilities in that stand are league 2 standard and have had no updates in well over a decade….the toilets are shoddy, there are very few ladies cubicles, the refreshments in terms of choice and speed of service are contemptible.
I agree. I tend to sit there if I switch seats to take a friend as the view is really good - in fact I'm in there tonight. But the corridor behind and the facilities is disgusting really.
I'm concerned that once they've carved out the upper Holte premium lounge the remaining area will be incredibly tight too. Nothing like the Witton, but even so much worse than it currently is now. I think this is a huge backwards step for fan experience.
The Witton Lane stand is terrible, makes the North Stand look like the palace of Versailles in terms of facilities*
*I'm making this demarcation as the North Stand actually fucking beautiful and will lament the loss of it's brutalist magnificence
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I remain convinced that we should have identified a site somewhere else and just knocked the whole bloody thing down and started again.
Noooooo, Burn the Heretic!
*Please not another 'Should we move?' debate as it's been done to death on here, and thankfully it's not going to happen.
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
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The new North will be a pleasant place to be, and the facilities top notch. The prices no doubt will be too.
The rest of the ground just needs to be thought out and planned, because service could, and should, be so much better.
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
B5 Row 25... does this mean we're being evicted? They're both concessionary tickets (old farts, out to graze, but have spent an eye-watering amount following Villa for 60-odd years))
No idea whether there are any alternatives on offer - no general price guide on view. Shabby, in my opinion.
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
No, but if I'm going to get fleeced anyway then some space-age cheese tunnel shit and room to breathe would at least compensate somewhat
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
No, but if I'm going to get fleeced anyway then some space-age cheese tunnel shit and room to breathe would at least compensate somewhat
You'll be wanting carpeted floors, a fan-bearer and slippers next.
Your 'caravan' is a Winnebago isn't it?
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Sorry but what is 1888?
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
Because at the moment the facilities in a lot of the ground are atrocious, and at the moment the only solution seems to be to charge extra (for a select few) for what should be standard for everybody, and then leave everybody else with a worse experience. It's all very well them comparing us to the other top clubs in terms of prices, but they're delivering a matchday experience way behind most of them. Man City, Spurs and Arsenal are light years ahead because they're not trying to squeeze slightly better service out of decades old, badly built stands.
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Something to do with the League formation I guess?
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
Because at the moment the facilities in a lot of the ground are atrocious, and at the moment the only solution seems to be to charge extra (for a select few) for what should be standard for everybody, and then leave everybody else with a worse experience. It's all very well them comparing us to the other top clubs in terms of prices, but they're delivering a matchday experience way behind most of them. Man City, Spurs and Arsenal are light years ahead because they're not trying to squeeze slightly better service out of decades old, badly built stands.
The experience would be just the same if we had just the same staff.
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
B5 Row 25... does this mean we're being evicted? They're both concessionary tickets (old farts, out to graze, but have spent an eye-watering amount following Villa for 60-odd years))
No idea whether there are any alternatives on offer - no general price guide on view. Shabby, in my opinion.
I honestly don't know if your seat falls in that area, but I saw someone on Twitter say their £752 ticket is now £899 due to being swallowed by the 1888 seating. Whether there is concessions in that area could also be an issue for you I guess.
edit - looking at a seating plan I'd say there's a chance is 1888. I'd get onto the ticket office if I was you.
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Something to do with the League formation I guess?
I thought your 1st answer was oK , I was trying to work out how much and what you get for this seating area?
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Something to do with the League formation I guess?
I thought your 1st answer was oK , I was trying to work out how much and what you get for this seating area?
I wasn't aware there was seating being reserved for it too, that makes it worse.
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Something to do with the League formation I guess?
I thought your 1st answer was oK , I was trying to work out how much and what you get for this seating area?
I wasn't aware there was seating being reserved for it too, that makes it worse.
i was just going off the seat map above.
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Never ask that question in Glasgow.
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The Witton will basically become the new North Stand when that is done up....excellent sightlines from upper Tier unless you're at the very back but will just feel very cramped and small compared to the other stands.
Given the road and houses it's going to be a long long time before there's any redevelopment if at all. Perhaps they'll reduce prices there once new North stand is up but I doubt it given what we've seen last few days.
I always wondered why Witton isn't 30 quid, don't the away fans pay that as part of the cap or was that rule scrapped a few years back?
That's one example of where mass fan protest forced a rethink and got away tickets capped at 30 quid for a few years at least.
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Sorry but what is 1888?
Something to do with the League formation I guess?
I thought your 1st answer was oK , I was trying to work out how much and what you get for this seating area?
I wasn't aware there was seating being reserved for it too, that makes it worse.
Don't mix this up with the debacle in the Holte end (although I wouldn't put it past them to have 'premium seating' as the next step.
This just looks like an extension of the premium seating in the Trinity, but I haven't seen any explanation from the club of what the 1888 'offer' is.
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For the first time ever, looking at a future where it's clear they're going to try and bleed dry every last penny out of those can can actually get in, I might agree with Risso on this.
Not sure why moving to another site would equate with cheaper prices. If anything they’d want more to help recoup the costs.
Because at the moment the facilities in a lot of the ground are atrocious, and at the moment the only solution seems to be to charge extra (for a select few) for what should be standard for everybody, and then leave everybody else with a worse experience. It's all very well them comparing us to the other top clubs in terms of prices, but they're delivering a matchday experience way behind most of them. Man City, Spurs and Arsenal are light years ahead because they're not trying to squeeze slightly better service out of decades old, badly built stands.
But they charge a huge premium for it.
It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.
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A positive from my perspective is that i am classed as a Disabled Over 66 so my ST is now £397 i think it was but i also have a Personal Assistant
who until last season was free. Last season they changed criteria and i had to pay a full price Adult approx £690. When i went to pay for my renewals
last night the Personal Assistant was once again free so a saving of £797. So i'm currently a happy bunny.
Probably only until Anthony from Disability office rings me 'Paul mate sorry we've made a mistake'
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It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.
I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
B5 Row 25... does this mean we're being evicted? They're both concessionary tickets (old farts, out to graze, but have spent an eye-watering amount following Villa for 60-odd years))
No idea whether there are any alternatives on offer - no general price guide on view. Shabby, in my opinion.
I honestly don't know if your seat falls in that area, but I saw someone on Twitter say their £752 ticket is now £899 due to being swallowed by the 1888 seating. Whether there is concessions in that area could also be an issue for you I guess.
edit - looking at a seating plan I'd say there's a chance is 1888. I'd get onto the ticket office if I was you.
Contacted the ticket office (45 minute wait unsurprisingly) and the - very helpful - woman resolved it. It seems that we've just dodged a bullet: the people 5 seats to our right are 'in the zone' (1888 - but the prices aren't in a time warp...) and being 'prawn sandwiched' into the football future.
Our (concessionary) seats are now £649 from £490 last year. As there's precious little chance of me being Sunaked into maths, can't calculate exactly, but I think that's a lot more than 15%. Thanks for your advice, Chris.
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I remain convinced that we should have identified a site somewhere else and just knocked the whole bloody thing down and started again.
Noooooo, Burn the Heretic!
*Please not another 'Should we move?' debate as it's been done to death on here, and thankfully it's not going to happen.
Listen to him first, do as he says and then burn for his own sake.
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Apart from being absolutely pig sick at this new rise (my seat will be £779 in L5) after last seasons whopping 18% one, can anyone tell me what's happened to the student discount option? I can't find it
The nephews gone from needing an U21 ST, to being a full time student this year and surely they're not expecting students to pay full adult price right?
Sad to say it, but i'm ashamed of the club right now.
No excuses. It's an absolute disgrace.
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Apart from being absolutely pig sick at this new rise (my seat will be £779 in L5) after last seasons whopping 18% one, can anyone tell me what's happened to the student discount option? I can't find it
The nephews gone from needing an U21 ST, to being a full time student this year and surely they're not expecting students to pay full adult price right?
Sad to say it, but i'm ashamed of the club right now.
No excuses. It's an absolute disgrace.
Similarly my nephew clicks over 21 before 1/19/23 (the trigger date) so I will have to pay £639 for him. This season it was £269. Ouch! And even if were U21 £269 goes up to £410.
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It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.
I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.
The Holte is fine from my point of view but then for me ‘match day experience’ means seeing a good game of football.
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It’s all a moot point anyway, the redevelopment plans show that it’s not on the cards for the foreseeable future. I just think that the tilt away from football fans to customers is going too far.
I agree it's never going to happen, probably in our life times anyway. But staying put means they have to make the most out of what they have, and that's going to entail trying to extort as much money as possible from people using the existing creaking facilities. The North Stand will be good when finished, but we'll still be left with a truly dismal Witton, a 30+ year old Holte and a 25 year old Trinity, all done as cheaply as possible in the Ellis era, with nothing much else around the area in terms of alternatives. Yes the London clubs charge a premium, but then they're at least getting a decent matchday experience. A lot of our fans will be paying much higher prices for still what is a very poor product in terms of the stadium visit.
Ask any Spurs fans at the moment if the "matchday experience" makes up for getting absolutely humped by the likes of Newcastle whilst paying comfortably the most expensive ticket prices in the league (https://www.statista.com/statistics/328654/premier-league-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket-price/).
I don't care how nice the concourse is (and it is very nice at the new WHL), it doesn't justify paying 3x what it costs to watch the Villa.
And yes, a 15% increase is a pisstake, but unfortunately football operates in a competitive vacuum, so just like no top-flight professional footballer "earns" the amount he's paid, if you want to compete, you have to pay the going rate. That's exactly where we are with ticket prices and when there's allegedly 30,000 on a waiting list and every game is sold out, you can't really blame the club when they know that the more money they can bring in, the better quality players we can sign.
They're damned if they do and damned if they don't - keep ticket prices low, have less money than our competitors, buy shitter players - they get panned. Do what they're doing to support the best manager we've had in decades - they get panned. There's no easy answer unfortunately - it's just a massive shame for long-serving fans who end up having to give up going because it's just not affordable anymore.
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As usual the process to renew is proving problematic. The online/digital account system doesn’t work for me and I’ve been hanging on the phone for over an hour now.
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Ask any Spurs fans at the moment if the "matchday experience" makes up for getting absolutely humped by the likes of Newcastle whilst paying comfortably the most expensive ticket prices in the league (https://www.statista.com/statistics/328654/premier-league-teams-ranked-by-most-expensive-season-ticket-price/).
I don't care how nice the concourse is (and it is very nice at the new WHL), it doesn't justify paying 3x what it costs to watch the Villa.
And yes, a 15% increase is a pisstake, but unfortunately football operates in a competitive vacuum, so just like no top-flight professional footballer "earns" the amount he's paid, if you want to compete, you have to pay the going rate. That's exactly where we are with ticket prices and when there's allegedly 30,000 on a waiting list and every game is sold out, you can't really blame the club when they know that the more money they can bring in, the better quality players we can sign.
They're damned if they do and damned if they don't - keep ticket prices low, have less money than our competitors, buy shitter players - they get panned. Do what they're doing to support the best manager we've had in decades - they get panned. There's no easy answer unfortunately - it's just a massive shame for long-serving fans who end up having to give up going because it's just not affordable anymore.
Nobody has ever said that having decent facilities should be instead of having a good team to watch, or that one makes up for not having the other.
That season ticket price you've quoted is their most expensive 1882 Club ticket, and includes free food and drink, so you're not really comparing like with like. Obviously most of their tickets are more expensive than ours, but then they're in London in a new billion pound stadium, so you'd expect them to be. A quick fag packet calculation shows the average adult season ticket there is about £1,050ish, or about £55 a game. Even given their recent troubles, they're still 5th and have finished lower than 6th once in the last 14 years so they're mostly used to decent results watched in an excellent stadium.
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
Not a season ticket query. But can anyone explain to me why A3 is cheaper than A5.
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As usual the process to renew is proving problematic. The online/digital account system doesn’t work for me and I’ve been hanging on the phone for over an hour now.
Why not wait a bit, you've plenty of time before the deadline.
It's matchday, there will be loads of people doing the same and if it's a straightforward renewal I'd reckon you could wait until a quieter time?
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After dutifully responding to the email to renew my ST, I got as far as the pre-chackout to be told that our 2 seats of 20+ years have been taken??
When I refreshed the page the following message came up:
'Error: A potentially dangerous Request detected in one of the fields. Please correct the offensive value and try again.'
Reading this, I felt as though I had abseiled down the Trinity stand holding a suspicious package!
How to win friends and influence people... Still no stadium-wide guide to ticket prices on the official site - unless someone knows/can advise where to find?
Where do you sit? Are you in the new 1888 area (B3, b4 and a bit of B5)?
(https://i.ibb.co/q7mvbFv/06a8f780-e293-11ed-810a-c7149b6bed21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7mvbFv)
Not a season ticket query. But can anyone explain to me why A3 is cheaper than A5.
A5 is more central
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As usual the process to renew is proving problematic. The online/digital account system doesn’t work for me and I’ve been hanging on the phone for over an hour now.
You've got until the end of May. Relax a bit.
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As usual the process to renew is proving problematic. The online/digital account system doesn’t work for me and I’ve been hanging on the phone for over an hour now.
You've got until the end of May. Relax a bit.
He can't control himself
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Not a season ticket query. But can anyone explain to me why A3 is cheaper than A5.
I am guessing A3 is similar in situation/ location to A6 whereas A4 and A5 are more or less 1 large block split into 2 situated on the half way line, I am in A5 and a guy who sat in the same row as me moved seats last season, ticket office told him if he moved towards The Holte by approx. 10 seats, his ticket would be a lot cheaper from what he was paying where he originally sat
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I'm in T1 so I'm taking it as some sort of win that my ticket is 'only' going up the 15% and not a whole category + 15%. Which it would have done if I was literally the other side of the aisle in T2.
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*Poll added.
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I was expecting an increase, but I was still a bit surprised with £779 for my K4 seat. Haven't given a thought to not renewing though.
The reality is that competing at the top-end of the Premier League is really expensive and if we are to get the success we all crave it's going to cost.
I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
They couldn’t care less about it, if they did they’d hold their service providers to account and ensure they delivered an adequate service.
In the grand scheme of Premier League a few thousand extra a game in income is small fry, clearly not enough to make the club get their fingers out to sort it.
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Seems the majority have gone up 26% since 20/21 season
I'm in K2 and its gone from
575
633
728 next season
On this basis we will be looking at £1k come season 26/27 - utterly wrong imo
Meanwhile Leicester have had theirs frozen for 8 of the last 9 seasons.
I get the income rational due to way ffp etc works but this extra really doesn't even touch the sides. A £120 rise across 30k is only £3.6m extra income. Yet we are the ones who suffer and feel the effects.
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£3.6m. One squad players annual wages.
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£3.6m. One squad players annual wages.
Or the additional money Wet Spam could pay us for Danny Ings if they stay up?
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£3.6m. One squad players annual wages.
I thought this. But if they froze them this season the income gap gets bigger and if they try to start bridging this with a 20% increase next year people aren't going to look back and say fine, they froze them last year.
I'm against the 15% increase and think they're really taking the piss with things like the new Holte bar, but I can see why they feel they need to start bridging the income gap. The continued shit facilities whilst they raise these prices are not acceptable though.
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I take it the 15% increase is a base figure. I'm a septuagenarian in T2 (right next to T1) and my senior's ticket is going up from £345 to £517. Yes...67%.
Is Michelle Mone involved behind the scenes?
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
The quality and range of what is on offer is pretty poor too. Plenty of other grounds / clubs have street-food style vendors on the approach to grounds. I know there are occasionally some outside the Trinity, but 4/5 to serve 40,000 people isn't really adequate.
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
As a veteran of one shift at Carrow Road working in the catering booths as a student, if they run the VP operation like they did back then in Norwich, it'll be because the agency staff turn up, report to a 'supervisor' (who'd probably done their first shift the week before and had been rewarded for their loyalty with a promotion, netting them an extra 30p per hour), who doesn't know what to tell them. They don't tell you to show up an hour before the fans do to get you settled and oriented - they'd have to pay an extra hour's wage, after all.
So you're thrown in at the deep end, with no idea where anything is or how the tills work. It was a disaster. And all because of this race to the bottom outsourcing, which reveals a singular lack of a fuck being given by those above about the service received by their loyal 'customers'.
Tory Britain again*.
*There was a Labour government when I did my character-building afternoon at Carrow Road. But that was a Tory government when it came to outsourcing to ghouls like G4S, Capita, Serco etc.
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I’ve renewed my 3 ST’s because I’m loaded and considerably richer than yoww
can anyone lend me a tenner ?
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Seat price up from £440 to £584!
Also, 'Your current season ticket seat is set to be impacted by the introduction of Rail Seating within the Holte End. As you are currently occupying standard seats in the back of Upper Holte, if you do not wish to have a rail seat you will be provided with the option to relocate'.
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The Holte is fine from my point of view but then for me ‘match day experience’ means seeing a good game of football.
What sort of weirdo are you?
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My dad, a season ticket holder since the 60s, had this particular seat since Acker pulled his name out of Doug's hat when the Witton Lane Upper opened, and 86 years young renewed yesterday... they have taken away his concession so he has to pay full whack.
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My dad, a season ticket holder since the 60s, had this particular seat since Acker pulled his name out of Doug's hat when the Witton Lane Upper opened, and 86 years young renewed yesterday... they have taken away his concession so he has to pay full whack.
That's an absolute disgrace...Have they given any indication why!!!
He's over 66 FFS
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Nope, it's all online. He found the new price in the same way I guess we all did, by renewing. My 13yo son pays full price for that area and I kind of get that, because it's a new seat for him, but makes no sense for my dad. He has tried - and failed - to talk to the ticket office; always engaged. I hope it's just computer error.
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My dad, a season ticket holder since the 60s, had this particular seat since Acker pulled his name out of Doug's hat when the Witton Lane Upper opened, and 86 years young renewed yesterday... they have taken away his concession so he has to pay full whack.
There’s a drop down where you select the the ticket type but the default is for the standard price. If your dad hasn’t clocked that it might explain why he has been overcharged.
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I have had a season ticket in the middle Upper Trinity / Doug Ellis for approx. 12 years, and so has my dad who is 77.
He has never been given an OAP discount in this area because they phased the OAP discount out many years ago because it is considered a "premium" area and only gave it to people who already had the discount - so you had to have had the same seat since before, let's say approx. 2008, and you had to have been over 65 in, let's say approx. 2008. My dad missed out by a couple of years.
One year they gave him the discount by accident and then phoned him a few days later and took it straight back off him.
Although when he goes to renew, it shows an OAP reduction, if you try and select it, it says it is not available in that area. It was the same last year.
The cynical side of me is thinking that if what has been said above about the guy's dad "paying full whack" is correct, the reason why this year, for the first time ever, they are showing a map of the ground but without the usual prices or concession prices, is that they might have got fed up of waiting for the older people in these premium areas to stop renewing and have decided just to take the concessions away in these areas, and don't want to advertise the fact.
Edit: I found the concession prices and rules from 2020 /21. I can't get the image to insert so have posted a link.
https://ibb.co/KmNqyKT
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My dad, a season ticket holder since the 60s, had this particular seat since Acker pulled his name out of Doug's hat when the Witton Lane Upper opened, and 86 years young renewed yesterday... they have taken away his concession so he has to pay full whack.
There’s a drop down where you select the the ticket type but the default is for the standard price. If your dad hasn’t clocked that it might explain why he has been overcharged.
My dad is an absolute Luddite (eg on Monday, he took his computer to be 'fixed' because he couldn't find the cursor) so he called the ticket office to renew. Apparently he spoke to a new guy who simply said "no concessions". He called back today and has indeed received the lower price. However, it has still gone up from 489 GBP to 649 GBP, a 25% increase.
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
The quality and range of what is on offer is pretty poor too. Plenty of other grounds / clubs have street-food style vendors on the approach to grounds. I know there are occasionally some outside the Trinity, but 4/5 to serve 40,000 people isn't really adequate.
Yes, I’d love the chance to get some Falafel and maybe a none alcoholic cocktail before taking my seat.
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I’d gladly pay less if they did an eighties/nineties version of a season ticket.
A Luke warm pint of Carling, choice of two pie filings and Bovril. You have to stand next to chain smoker (cigars) and occasionally dodge a coin. Picking yourself off the floor after a goal… ohh the good olde days
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They are making more complicated than they need to . Keep the food and drink simple
reduce the range but get it ready beforehand
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They are making more complicated than they need to . Keep the food and drink simple
reduce the range but get it ready beforehand
Reduce the range? What do you go down to from pie, sausage roll and crisps (in the Witton) or add in a Nacho dog and chips with curry sauce in the Holte?
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
The quality and range of what is on offer is pretty poor too. Plenty of other grounds / clubs have street-food style vendors on the approach to grounds. I know there are occasionally some outside the Trinity, but 4/5 to serve 40,000 people isn't really adequate.
Yes, I’d love the chance to get some Falafel and maybe a none alcoholic cocktail before taking my seat.
....don't forget that your seat would also be adorned with a half n half scarf for each match, to allow you to take that selfie overlooking the pitch to post for all your followers.
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They are making more complicated than they need to . Keep the food and drink simple
reduce the range but get it ready beforehand
If they reduce the range in Upper Witton they might as well shut it down :/)
The most infuriating to me everytime is watching them spending 30 odd seconds a time pouring a can of beer / cider into plastic pint glasses….utterly utterly pathetic that cans poured is part of the offering
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They are making more complicated than they need to . Keep the food and drink simple
reduce the range but get it ready beforehand
If they reduce the range in Upper Witton they might as well shut it down :/)
The most infuriating to me everytime is watching them spending 30 odd seconds a time pouring a can of beer / cider into plastic pint glasses….utterly utterly pathetic that cans poured is part of the offering
The new beauty is watching them
take coke bottle tops off which are now supplied to stay on . Then watching your pie walk around the kitchen looking for chips
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The ST holders in the Upper Holte should have their tickets subsidised by these posh interlopers in the new bar, after all they are part of the entertainment for them, like zoo exhibits. Roll up, roll up, come and see the working class in their own habitat, see them swear, throw beer around and moan about how we piss about at the back. Like a sporting Bedlam.
'Oh Archie, you simply must come along, its so edgy'
Cant they fuck off and gentrify something else.
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For another £500 the new corporate visitors could throw food at the indigenous folk
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I sit in B3 block and there are no concessions in that area either. Same as someone else said, I thought I’d cracked it a few years ago as I was given the concession price, which I gladly accepted. However, within 48 hours I received a phone call to say there had been a mistake so I had to them pay full price.
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I sit in B3 block and there are no concessions in that area either. Same as someone else said, I thought I’d cracked it a few years ago as I was given the concession price, which I gladly accepted. However, within 48 hours I received a phone call to say there had been a mistake so I had to them pay full price.
And now you're in the 1888 price bracket too.
"The Club have also reviewed Blocks B3, B4 and B5 due to their proximity to hospitality with some of the best views within the stadium. Certain seats within these blocks will be upgraded to an ‘1888 seat’ which, for an increased price, includes a padded seat, club tie/scarf and other additional benefits."
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
The quality and range of what is on offer is pretty poor too. Plenty of other grounds / clubs have street-food style vendors on the approach to grounds. I know there are occasionally some outside the Trinity, but 4/5 to serve 40,000 people isn't really adequate.
Yes, I’d love the chance to get some Falafel and maybe a none alcoholic cocktail before taking my seat.
....don't forget that your seat would also be adorned with a half n half scarf for each match, to allow you to take that selfie overlooking the pitch to post for all your followers.
Well this all got very sarcastic. I'm just suggesting some people might want some decent food, rather than paying the same price for a burger made of the offcuts of an unknown animal that got rejected for pet food.
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I do wish they would spend more money on the kiosks though, too few staff and nobody seems hurried to serve anyone. I bet they could increase the revenue significantly if everyone who wanted a drink or pie could actually get served without missing half the game or finding they've run out.
This infuriates me more than anything. I worked in pubs in my younger years, and I can remember it being like a cardio workout for 6hrs straight (longer with the lock-ins!).
You look along the counter at Villa Park and most of them are just fucking stood there clueless! Not sure if it's just a generational thing or whether it's inept management just need to get a grip - I'd hazard a guess at both!
They could easily double their revenue (and probably the rest) if they sorted out prematch/half time counter efficiency.
The quality and range of what is on offer is pretty poor too. Plenty of other grounds / clubs have street-food style vendors on the approach to grounds. I know there are occasionally some outside the Trinity, but 4/5 to serve 40,000 people isn't really adequate.
Yes, I’d love the chance to get some Falafel and maybe a none alcoholic cocktail before taking my seat.
....don't forget that your seat would also be adorned with a half n half scarf for each match, to allow you to take that selfie overlooking the pitch to post for all your followers.
Well this all got very sarcastic. I'm just suggesting some people might want some decent food, rather than paying the same price for a burger made of the offcuts of an unknown animal that got rejected for pet food.
lad next me in the Holte suite purchased chips and curry,he said it was shit and hardly ate it, noticed someone else left there food as well and took sometime to get served
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They just need to get the basic stuff right. Make it easy and enjoyable to eat and drink. Decent quality stuff for an appropriate price. Maybe one food item that we do brilliantly and become renowned for. Instead of bland, boring and with a long wait, that pretty much makes you go elsewhere for food/drink before the game.
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They just need to get the basic stuff right. Make it easy and enjoyable to eat and drink. Decent quality stuff for an appropriate price. Maybe one food item that we do brilliantly and become renowned for. Instead of bland, boring and with a long wait, that pretty much makes you go elsewhere for food/drink before the game.
The Punjabi grill tikka & chips may be the one getting that rep.
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I sit in B3 block and there are no concessions in that area either. Same as someone else said, I thought I’d cracked it a few years ago as I was given the concession price, which I gladly accepted. However, within 48 hours I received a phone call to say there had been a mistake so I had to them pay full price.
And now you're in the 1888 price bracket too.
"The Club have also reviewed Blocks B3, B4 and B5 due to their proximity to hospitality with some of the best views within the stadium. Certain seats within these blocks will be upgraded to an ‘1888 seat’ which, for an increased price, includes a padded seat, club tie/scarf and other additional benefits."
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but how much extra are they asking for the upgrade?
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong but one thing I did notice on Tuesday night as the TV cameras panned to the Lower Holte, was just how old the average Villa fan was. It was like a scene from The Wanderers with the Baldies teaming up with Mike Leigh's A Sense of History.
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They just need to get the basic stuff right. Make it easy and enjoyable to eat and drink. Decent quality stuff for an appropriate price. Maybe one food item that we do brilliantly and become renowned for. Instead of bland, boring and with a long wait, that pretty much makes you go elsewhere for food/drink before the game.
i think that's what they're trying to do, but charging people in the upper holte £25 a match for the privilege...
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
With the Club deciding to hide all the prices and concessions this year, it's hard to tell what's true.
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
It's 100% true
And a total disgrace
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It’s pretty rough, this. Timing seems cynical too - the team is flying and they announce huge price increases and booting out concessions for students.
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It’s pretty rough, this. Timing seems cynical too - the team is flying and they announce huge price increases and booting out concessions for students.
I hate it , they have us over a barrel don’t they. It’s like it or lump it. Crazy to see Villa “my team” gradually being taken away from me. I can afford it next season, but as soon as they upgrade my seats to prawn+ that’s likely game over for me. If I can’t sit near my mates then a large chunk of why I go has gone…. No doubt I’ll probably be watching us win something decent on TV….
To have no concessions, to only let folks know at renewal that their seats are changing/upgrading. To increase by so much too.. shameful
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Well the club have got the season ticket holders in checkmate. Surrender your seat now and may never see it again for years. However as an act of defiance I shall never spend another penny inside the stadium or the club shop, only in the urinals. Perhaps Purslow will do an O'Leary and find a way for charging for this!
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I've tried to renew but cannot get past log in because they keep telling me my email address is wrong. I have had this confirmed by email!
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It’s pretty rough, this. Timing seems cynical too - the team is flying and they announce huge price increases and booting out concessions for students.
I hate it , they have us over a barrel don’t they. It’s like it or lump it. Crazy to see Villa “my team” gradually being taken away from me. I can afford it next season, but as soon as they upgrade my seats to prawn+ that’s likely game over for me. If I can’t sit near my mates then a large chunk of why I go has gone…. No doubt I’ll probably be watching us win something decent on TV….
To have no concessions, to only let folks know at renewal that their seats are changing/upgrading. To increase by so much too.. shameful
Couldn’t agree more Frank and that’s where I am with it as well. I love this club but there’s a line that should never be crossed. It’s not just an Aston Villa issue but I’m only bothered with our club.
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
I think that’s been the case for a few years with the concessions being age related rather than for students, which kind of makes sense because I had a student card when I was doing a management qualification & was already earning good money whereas most 18 year olds, student or not, are on a low income.
That said, I have no idea whether they have the same age related concessions now either.
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Kid on twitter has apparently been told by the club that they’re no longer offering student concessions.
I think that’s been the case for a few years with the concessions being age related rather than for students, which kind of makes sense because I had a student card when I was doing a management qualification & was already earning good money whereas most 18 year olds, student or not, are on a low income.
That said, I have no idea whether they have the same age related concessions now either.
From what I remember when I was at uni, you had to prove you were in full time education but I can't remember if there was an age bracket too.
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
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I reject the implication that because the owners have put their hands in their pockets it's now our turn.
On the face of it it seems a fair and simple argument to make but given the previously mentioned cost of living issues etc, and the fact billionaires have made more money than ever since the pandemic began, it just doesn't hold water. It's not the same - £400,000,000 to two individuals worth, what, £10bn(?) is 0.4% of their combined fortune and that's over multiple years. The extra costs ordinary people on average wages are facing is way in excess of that and only over the last 12 months.
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The pathetic excuses from Purslow and co.are a disgrace. With the money they earn, they haven’t got a clue how difficult it is for ordinary people having to pay the extra amount. In terms of revenue, it’s a drop in the ocean for the Club so, why don’t they try upping their game on other revenue streams instead of being totally lazy buggers and fleecing us supporters yet again.
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The pathetic excuses from Purslow and co.are a disgrace. With the money they earn, they haven’t got a clue how difficult it is for ordinary people having to pay the extra amount. In terms of revenue, it’s a drop in the ocean for the Club so, why don’t they try upping their game on other revenue streams instead of being totally lazy buggers and fleecing us supporters yet again.
We do seem to be paying for the lack of commercial acumen and Steven Gerrard's compo.
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I reject the implication that because the owners have put their hands in their pockets it's now our turn.
On the face of it it seems a fair and simple argument to make but given the previously mentioned cost of living issues etc, and the fact billionaires have made more money than ever since the pandemic began, it just doesn't hold water. It's not the same - £400,000,000 to two individuals worth, what, £10bn(?) is 0.4% of their combined fortune and that's over multiple years. The extra costs ordinary people on average wages are facing is way in excess of that and only over the last 12 months.
Well, quite. When they sell us at what will be presumably a massive profit, I doubt they intend to share that profit with ST holders. The club is their asset. If they want the value of the asset to grow, they need to invest in it. And, fair play to them, they have and they are, which is great for us as fans, but what they do with their filthy lucre is up to them.
Should supporters have been consulted before they put the release clause in Grealish's contract? Of course not. It's a private business, it can do what it likes.
The idea that supporters somehow 'owe' them is bizarre.
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I can see both sides on this one. As a season ticket holder who pays for 4 STs it makes quite a dent, and I know some others are not so fortunate and this rise will price them out.
But the increases only put us to 11th on the ST cost league table as I understand it so in relative terms we’re not bad value.
Most importantly there is a 30k waiting list. Only 40k people can watch us each week, and is not totally obvious to me that it’s fairer to say to those waiting list people who want to watch us that they can’t, and instead to let others continue to do so year after year at a low price, just because they were there first.
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The pathetic excuses from Purslow and co.are a disgrace. With the money they earn, they haven’t got a clue how difficult it is for ordinary people having to pay the extra amount. In terms of revenue, it’s a drop in the ocean for the Club so, why don’t they try upping their game on other revenue streams instead of being totally lazy buggers and fleecing us supporters yet again.
We do seem to be paying for the lack of commercial acumen and Steven Gerrard's compo.
All down to Purslow.
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I reject the implication that because the owners have put their hands in their pockets it's now our turn.
On the face of it it seems a fair and simple argument to make but given the previously mentioned cost of living issues etc, and the fact billionaires have made more money than ever since the pandemic began, it just doesn't hold water. It's not the same - £400,000,000 to two individuals worth, what, £10bn(?) is 0.4% of their combined fortune and that's over multiple years. The extra costs ordinary people on average wages are facing is way in excess of that and only over the last 12 months.
It is also worth pointing out that as much as the owners have put into the club and have saved us from bankruptcy, it’s also conversely true that if they were to sell us now or at some point in the future they will make a major profit.
As has been pointed out above, it’s almost like the fans are being made to pay for the mistakes of others. The amount likely to be received doesn’t justify the rationale. It’s more like arse covering if I’m being cynical.
I’m not sure if it’s relevant or it works in this way, but Purslow has some stake at the club? Would the increase in prices benefit? Unsure. Hoping others can provide insight.
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Claret and Blue podcast discussing it, published 3 hours ago
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I’m not sure if it’s relevant or it works in this way, but Purslow has some stake at the club? Would the increase in prices benefit? Unsure. Hoping others can provide insight.
Only in the sense that, the more profitable / less money losing the club is, at some point in the future if they sold up, his share would be worth more.
It's a very small % he has.
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I know this is going to make me sound like a tit, but, although it is galling to pay 700 quid for something that cost you 580 (random indicative figures), yes, it's a big jump, but the extra 120 quid these days is less than the sort of money you'd spend at the supermarket in a single week's feed.
What I am saying is, it's expensive, yes, but it was expensive to start with, it hasn't been a comparatively cheap 'cost of living' linked hobby for a long time.
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The pathetic excuses from Purslow and co.are a disgrace. With the money they earn, they haven’t got a clue how difficult it is for ordinary people having to pay the extra amount. In terms of revenue, it’s a drop in the ocean for the Club so, why don’t they try upping their game on other revenue streams instead of being totally lazy buggers and fleecing us supporters yet again.
We do seem to be paying for the lack of commercial acumen and Steven Gerrard's compo.
All down to Purslow.
The lack of decent commercial revenue performance pre-dates Purslow by several decades.
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I know this is going to make me sound like a tit, but, although it is galling to pay 700 quid for something that cost you 580 (random indicative figures), yes, it's a big jump, but the extra 120 quid these days is less than the sort of money you'd spend at the supermarket in a single week's feed.
What I am saying is, it's expensive, yes, but it was expensive to start with, it hasn't been a comparatively cheap 'cost of living' linked hobby for a long time.
You’re right, it does make you sound like a tit ;-)
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The pathetic excuses from Purslow and co.are a disgrace. With the money they earn, they haven’t got a clue how difficult it is for ordinary people having to pay the extra amount. In terms of revenue, it’s a drop in the ocean for the Club so, why don’t they try upping their game on other revenue streams instead of being totally lazy buggers and fleecing us supporters yet again.
We do seem to be paying for the lack of commercial acumen and Steven Gerrard's compo.
All down to Purslow.
The lack of decent commercial revenue performance pre-dates Purslow by several decades.
Yep it’s been a problem since the late 80s when these types of things started becoming important. Every owner since has been asleep at the wheel.
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Yes, but Purslow is the man in position at this moment in time so, it’s for him to come up with some commercial ideas.
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Yes, but Purslow is the man in position at this moment in time so, it’s for him to come up with some commercial ideas.
Season ticket prices being one of them.
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I guess we'll soon see if Wilma is correct.
It's only galling because it's a big hike now. It was always going to happen, because that's how modern football works. I'm not saying it's right or that I agree but that's the way this shit works. We want it all and the club are making us pay for it.
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Yes, but Purslow is the man in position at this moment in time so, it’s for him to come up with some commercial ideas.
Yes he has been CEO for several years now and has shown no commercial acumen in respect of Sponsorship, Merchandise, Catering. He blew the Greasy windfall, hired Gerrard.
He won the lottery with NSWE.
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I guess we'll soon see if Wilma is correct.
It's only galling because it's a big hike now. It was always going to happen, because that's how modern football works. I'm not saying it's right or that I agree but that's the way this shit works. We want it all and the club are making us pay for it.
We can say “it was always going to happen” but why? Why have we got inflation busting increases over two years, when inflation is so high, that it’s actually going some to bust it. As others have stated the money generated by ticket sales is a relative drop in the ocean compared to the other revenue streams. The ordinary working class fan should never be priced out of going to the games. I expected our owners and chief executive to show a little class by being reasonable with any increase, especially in the current economic climate.
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Manchester United have now moved the concession for 65 year olds to 66 years now
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Ironically, the only owner who tried horizontal rather than vertical marketing was Lerner for a couple of years, then he gave up.
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The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed) none of our suggestions are put in place and then we end up with a fucking bolt-on package . You can guarantee that the poor fuckers in the upper Doug and Trinity paying the most won't have improvements on the concourses.
Another thing , if we're paying premium prices any chance of having clean toilets that aren't like a dodgy nightclub at 2am. They need monitoring and cleaning...when I'm paying £400 for the season I don't care when it's doubled I want a nice environment and proper facilities .
They could make it so much easier and simple but don't listen. All this fancy chicken etc at a ridiculous price.
why they don't have self serve coffee machines??
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Fucking hell.
A Flin5tone post I agree with in its entirety.
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Can't you add something like "2,000 tickets left still for Spurs, disgraceful" just for old time's sake?
Or DISGRACE?
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HELP
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
I must say, when reading the notes of the supporters consultation meeting, I was struck by how many people were managers with 'commercial' in the job title, the combined efforts of these people not amounting to much beyond 'lets fleece the usual suspects for a lot more because we know we can'.
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
That’s not right.
We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?
I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
That’s not right.
We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?
I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities.
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Can the Club please reduce the increase now that we have dropped to 6th place!!
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The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed) none of our suggestions are put in place and then we end up with a fucking bolt-on package . You can guarantee that the poor fuckers in the upper Doug and Trinity paying the most won't have improvements on the concourses.
Another thing , if we're paying premium prices any chance of having clean toilets that aren't like a dodgy nightclub at 2am. They need monitoring and cleaning...when I'm paying £400 for the season I don't care when it's doubled I want a nice environment and proper facilities .
They could make it so much easier and simple but don't listen. All this fancy chicken etc at a ridiculous price.
why they don't have self serve coffee machines??
Based.
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere on this thread so apologies if I have missed it, but to add insult to the injury of the price hike for STs, I've also lost my seat, along with a hundred or so others in the last four rows of L4, which have been commandeered for the accessibility "upgrades" in the Lower Holte. The way the club has handled this (i.e. tumbleweed) has been nothing short of disgraceful. No prior consultation with those affected and I, at least, have as yet to receive ANY communication on the matter whatsoever. I heard the news at the Fulham game from others around me who had contacted the ticket office to renew their season tickets only to be told that they wouldn't be able to, and that someone from the club would be in touch to discuss options - no other information was forthcoming. I called the ticket office yesterday to be told the same thing. As yet, still no contact from the club. It feels as if the club has thought, well, there's only a hundred or so affected, so only a tiny percentage of the fanbase to piss off, but to us in that area, many of whom have had season tickets for years (I've had that seat for the past 9 years), or even decades, it feels like the club doesn't really give a toss about fans actually attending games (other than trying to find more ways of relieving them of their cash through their crappy "gentrification" initiatives), and for those who've had season tickets for longer than the last 4 seasons since we returned to the PL, this is how we're repaid for our loyalty for the largely utter shite we've endured over the past decade or so. Our little L4 "community" is getting broken up, and that's the saddest part of the whole situation - THAT'S our match-day experience, not all the fanzone bollocks, GA+ facilities, etc. that Villa are peddling now, but I guess that doesn't bring in what the club wants, which is more and more money. Sadly, my love of the club, and "elite" football in general, has been further diminished by this experience (so far).
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Firstly, like Paulie, I agree with Fred, which is not something i thought I’d ever say.
I will renew soon, like i imagine lots of us will, mainly because the waiting list, exaggerated or not, fucks us all. I will go for the 8 month payment plan as I can’t afford the payment up front. I can just about afford the £30 extra a month compared to last years monthly payments, but its a big outlay, nearly a grand for me and my teenage kids.
But the rise, the way its been handled by the club, the spin of 15% when kids tickets are a greater increase again, the fact that even on my ticket history last years individual season ticket prices aren’t there to compare, the rise on top of last years rise, being close to 50% for me and my kids and the absolute pettiness of taking the cup games away. It all does leave a very bad taste after such a brilliant few months. It also feels there is no real way to make these feelings known, not that Purslow and his commercial monkeys, would give a shit.
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If enough people wrote to the club and local news papers things might change. What are the various fans forums for if not to raise these issues?
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Listened to MOMs podcast, and the guy on their who attends these meetings said that even senior management at Villa tip toe around Purslow as he is not someone to be messed with.
The supporters group could have all stood up and shouted "disgrace" and walked out, when Purslow mentioned the price increase, and it would not have made a jot of difference.
We have 2 choices, you either buy the season ticket or you don't.
Talking to the people who sit by me in the Lower Holte all are going to renew, because they can see we may be onto something special with Emery as our Manager.
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the fact that even on my ticket history last years individual season ticket prices aren’t there to compare
A kind soul explained to me how to do it on the first few pages of the thread.
Go the the History tab, then select Payments from the drop down box. It then breaks down the amounts paid for all transactions for all the ID numbers associated with yours.
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The sad reality is perhaps we seen this coming but didn't want to admit it to ourselves, for me it's going down the Villa, not worried about any entertainment or fancy meals, even having a drink in the ground, maybe it's a age thing,
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
That’s not right.
We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?
I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities.
said to the brother about commercial activity, now we are getting noticed, sponsors will be looking and thinking, this Aston Villa Football Club seems to going places, what about investing now before they really take off, Manchester United shirt deal is approximately 47 million a year for 5 years and that's just to have the name on the front of the shirt
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
That’s not right.
We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?
I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities.
said to the brother about commercial activity, now we are getting noticed, sponsors will be looking and thinking, this Aston Villa Football Club seems to going places, what about investing now before they really take off, Manchester United shirt deal is approximately 47 million a year for 5 years and that's just to have the name on the front of the shirt
A progressive smart CEO would be focusing on these arrangements not on fleecing the match going supporters.
Purslow knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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I’ve been hit with the double whammy of eye watering price hikes as well as my son now being 14, which means his price category has jumped from U14 to U18.
Do the club think 14 year olds earn a salary or something?
So my cost of one adult plus one child ticket in the Holte has jumped 60% in two years. Ouch.
2021 £729
2022 £847
2023 £1168
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Imagine if they had organised decent catering and the ability to buy a drink look at the money they are failing to collect every match day.
But lets nail another Cazoo billboard to the Trinity, its like the Harry Hill Beds Beds Beds sketch.
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It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
That’s not right.
We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?
I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities.
said to the brother about commercial activity, now we are getting noticed, sponsors will be looking and thinking, this Aston Villa Football Club seems to going places, what about investing now before they really take off, Manchester United shirt deal is approximately 47 million a year for 5 years and that's just to have the name on the front of the shirt
A progressive smart CEO would be focusing on these arrangements not on fleecing the match going supporters.
Purslow knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
You'd have to be a proper tin foil hat type to think he's genuinely not focusing on commercial agreements.
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I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)
Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up.
If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
It all adds up. 40K people all paying £300 more is £12m a year.
When you have one owner that owns a USA basketball team you can bet your life that fleecing as much as possible from the paying public is at the heart of everything going on here. I went to MSG to watch the Knicks for example - I could not move for merchandise stands and paid the princely sum of $16 for a pint of ale (not BUD mind). The problem is they are comparing apples and pears in terms of the cultural nuances between football fans here and fans over there that go for a family day out and for the 'experience'
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Imagine if they had organised decent catering and the ability to buy a drink look at the money they are failing to collect every match day.
But lets nail another Cazoo billboard to the Trinity, its like the Harry Hill Beds Beds Beds sketch.
If they could offer a decent pint at a reasonable price and with decent service they could go someway to helping with the travel issues before and after the games
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The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….
We’re told that the club have listened and have acted on the survey results. I’m not sure about anyone else, but when I filled in the questionnaire I never asked for a £500 quid a year members’ club in the Holte or a 15% hike in tickets. And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
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And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
"this represents the club turning it's back on the fans"
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere on this thread so apologies if I have missed it, but to add insult to the injury of the price hike for STs, I've also lost my seat, along with a hundred or so others in the last four rows of L4, which have been commandeered for the accessibility "upgrades" in the Lower Holte. The way the club has handled this (i.e. tumbleweed) has been nothing short of disgraceful. No prior consultation with those affected and I, at least, have as yet to receive ANY communication on the matter whatsoever. I heard the news at the Fulham game from others around me who had contacted the ticket office to renew their season tickets only to be told that they wouldn't be able to, and that someone from the club would be in touch to discuss options - no other information was forthcoming. I called the ticket office yesterday to be told the same thing. As yet, still no contact from the club. It feels as if the club has thought, well, there's only a hundred or so affected, so only a tiny percentage of the fanbase to piss off, but to us in that area, many of whom have had season tickets for years (I've had that seat for the past 9 years), or even decades, it feels like the club doesn't really give a toss about fans actually attending games (other than trying to find more ways of relieving them of their cash through their crappy "gentrification" initiatives), and for those who've had season tickets for longer than the last 4 seasons since we returned to the PL, this is how we're repaid for our loyalty for the largely utter shite we've endured over the past decade or so. Our little L4 "community" is getting broken up, and that's the saddest part of the whole situation - THAT'S our match-day experience, not all the fanzone bollocks, GA+ facilities, etc. that Villa are peddling now, but I guess that doesn't bring in what the club wants, which is more and more money. Sadly, my love of the club, and "elite" football in general, has been further diminished by this experience (so far).
Wow. This is terrible treatment
You should be given plenty of notice and a seat in the best possible area of the Holte End/area of your choice at a discounted rate.
Sadly you are right , they do not care about us idiots who trundled down on a cold Tuesday night in the Championship when the top tier of the trinity road was even closed off because of some shit made up inflated waiting list
I'm not sure how this new disabled area will work at the back of the Holte? Where will people in chairs enter?
The whole thing is a disgrace and they couldn't care about loyal supporters
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
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The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….
We’re told that the club have listened and have acted on the survey results. I’m not sure about anyone else, but when I filled in the questionnaire I never asked for a £500 quid a year members’ club in the Holte or a 15% hike in tickets. And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
When I queried the reversing lion I was told that "everyone" had previously had no problem with it.
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
You don't know what they're going to be offered as an alternative, so maybe pipe down until you do.
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The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….
We’re told that the club have listened and have acted on the survey results. I’m not sure about anyone else, but when I filled in the questionnaire I never asked for a £500 quid a year members’ club in the Holte or a 15% hike in tickets. And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
When I queried the reversing lion I was told that "everyone" had previously had no problem with it.
That just sounds like a teenager asking to be allowed to go to a party - 'Everyone else is going'.
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Imagine if they had organised decent catering and the ability to buy a drink look at the money they are failing to collect every match day.
But lets nail another Cazoo billboard to the Trinity, its like the Harry Hill Beds Beds Beds sketch.
This is what frustrates me. They manage to make something that should be so simple into something so hard. To the point where the only answer is to charge people £500 extra a season for a bar where they can actually buy a drink.
Even without spending millions on new technology here's an idea, just double the staff and double the beer pumps. Have people walking round the concourse with beer dispensers on their back. How much would that cost? And for the love of God do the same in the upper Witton too.
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
You don't know what they're going to be offered as an alternative, so maybe pipe down until you do.
They're going to be offered their pick of the available seating in the Holte (or elsewhere). Which won't be prime seats in big blocks next to all their mates, that's for sure. It's hard to get two seats together in the Holte let alone a bunch.
I agree we should have excellent disabled facilities, I'm just surprised there isn't a better solution than relocating 100 long term ST holders to house 8 spaces. Couldn't they make use of the corners etc?
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I think everyone would hope for more and better disabled spaces for our fellow supporters . From what I’ve read and heard the biggest issue from the supporters being moved is the total lack of communication from the club. Supporters only finding out when they went to renew. It would have been such a simple thing for the club to communicate before . I’m not saying that would pacify everyone, but it would have been a start.
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It's always been this way. We used to be sat on the back row of Witton Lane looking pretty much down the centre line of the pitch. The year after they finished the Trinity Road stand, Villa decided they wanted that stand to form the backdrop of matches on the telly (rather than the shitty Witton Lane as it used to be), so they evicted us for the Sky cameras.
I'm now seated in the middle of the Upper Trinity, but whenever Villa are on telly, it's pretty much from the viewpoint of my old seat.
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
You don't know what they're going to be offered as an alternative, so maybe pipe down until you do.
They're going to be offered their pick of the available seating in the Holte (or elsewhere). Which won't be prime seats in big blocks next to all their mates, that's for sure. It's hard to get two seats together in the Holte let alone a bunch.
I agree we should have excellent disabled facilities, I'm just surprised there isn't a better solution than relocating 100 long term ST holders to house 8 spaces. Couldn't they make use of the corners etc?
I'm sure it's not how you meant it, but sticking disabled fans in the corner isn't exactly equality or respectful.
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A simple letter to those being moved, explaining what and why and next steps and options, would have been simple and straightforward to do.
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
You don't know what they're going to be offered as an alternative, so maybe pipe down until you do.
They're going to be offered their pick of the available seating in the Holte (or elsewhere). Which won't be prime seats in big blocks next to all their mates, that's for sure. It's hard to get two seats together in the Holte let alone a bunch.
I agree we should have excellent disabled facilities, I'm just surprised there isn't a better solution than relocating 100 long term ST holders to house 8 spaces. Couldn't they make use of the corners etc?
I'm sure it's not how you meant it, but sticking disabled fans in the corner isn't exactly equality or respectful.
I know what you mean but I was thinking in a sensible manner, maybe using the space of one of the corporate boxes between the Holte and the Trinity, or below the screen (or move the screen) - there's seating below and either side so still be well in the atmosphere and action - that sort of thing. not an afterthought at ground floor level. I'm sure all options were considered, although I suspect they've taken the cheapest.
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wrong thread
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I'm sure it's not how you meant it, but sticking disabled fans in the corner isn't exactly equality or respectful.
As someone waiting for a wheelchair space, that's a much politer response than I was about to post!
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I've seen a few people comment about it being wrong for the owner's to expect us to pay more for the success of the team, when they could easily cough up a few more hundred million as it's little to them.
While I don't disagree with this at all, a real issue is FFP actively prevents them from doing this. FFP forces clubs to milk as much as they can from their overly loyal fanbases because it limits how much the billionaires can put in themselves.
Our last set of accounts shows about £16m from gate receipts for the 2020/21 season. With this seasons and next season's price increases, that could jump up to £20m. Add in extra revenue from more games if we hit Europe and have cup runs, another half a million+ if they max out this terrace idea, and another £7m or so once they get the capacity up to 52k... It's cash that we can spend on the pitch.
You can't get success without spending, but FFP says you can't spend unless you're already a success. The only way to eek out more unfortunately is to milk the hardworking fans to gain a slight edge and hope it helps.
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You can't get success without spending, but FFP says you can't spend unless you're already a success. The only way to eek out more unfortunately is to milk the hardworking fans to gain a slight edge and hope it helps.
Not sure that's strictly true tbf
Leicester spring to mind, won two trophies we've come nowhere near winning in decades with a smaller stadium, less income and less spend
I just really can't see how earning an extra 2-3m a season from kicking your loyal supporters in the nuts is going to transform our fortunes on the pitch
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Leicester spring to mind, won two trophies we've come nowhere near winning in decades with a smaller stadium, less income and less spend
How many times does a Leicester win the league, though?
It was an incredible achievement but a one off rather than an example that can really be used to indicate proof it's possible to do it on less money.
Also bit harsh given to say we've come nowhere near winning the FA Cup of late, we've been in the final way more recently than most top flight clubs.
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You can't get success without spending, but FFP says you can't spend unless you're already a success. The only way to eek out more unfortunately is to milk the hardworking fans to gain a slight edge and hope it helps.
Not sure that's strictly true tbf
Leicester spring to mind, won two trophies we've come nowhere near winning in decades with a smaller stadium, less income and less spend
I just really can't see how earning an extra 2-3m a season from kicking your loyal supporters in the nuts is going to transform our fortunes on the pitch
Leicester did fantastically well, you're right. But that was the perfect storm that season, it's never happened before in the Premier League or since. And their success after came from the increase in revenue they got from winning the league, subsequent european campaigns, and a fantastic run of shrewd transfers that panned out brilliantly.
If you look at Leicester now, you'll find a club returning back to what their income generally gets you. They don't have a massive net spend in transfers and the squad they assembled is pretty much out of contract by next summer.
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You can't get success without spending, but FFP says you can't spend unless you're already a success. The only way to eek out more unfortunately is to milk the hardworking fans to gain a slight edge and hope it helps.
Not sure that's strictly true tbf
Leicester spring to mind, won two trophies we've come nowhere near winning in decades with a smaller stadium, less income and less spend
I just really can't see how earning an extra 2-3m a season from kicking your loyal supporters in the nuts is going to transform our fortunes on the pitch
Leicester did fantastically well, you're right. But that was the perfect storm that season, it's never happened before in the Premier League or since. And their success after came from the increase in revenue they got from winning the league, subsequent european campaigns, and a fantastic run of shrewd transfers that panned out brilliantly.
If you look at Leicester now, you'll find a club returning back to what their income generally gets you. They don't have a massive net spend in transfers and the squad they assembled is pretty much out of contract by next summer.
Missing out on 2019/20 and 2020/21 (bonus of FA Cup) on CL qualification done them financially.
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I'm sure it's not how you meant it, but sticking disabled fans in the corner isn't exactly equality or respectful.
As someone waiting for a wheelchair space, that's a much politer response than I was about to post!
I've responded above. I'm not talking about leaving people in a fire corridor like a scene from The Office. I'm saying I'm surprised a good solution couldn't be found without displacing 100 season ticket holders. ie creating space - whether by an extension to existing seating terrace or corporate facilities. I'd have thought the space at the junction of the Holte and Trinity could have been used for example fitting in with the existing seating. I appreciate it is always not as simple as that due to access etc, but we're talking about a billion pound business here.
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A billion pound business?!
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Pressed the wrong button, should have been a yes
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A billion pound business?!
According to the Athletic, the proposed Man U takeover by Sheikh Jassim’s was based on c£4.5b. Chelsea was reportedly sold for £4.25b.
Yeah, I don't think £1b is a ridiculous stretch. But whether it's £500m or £1b it doesn't really change my point.
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Can we have Fortuna Düsseldorf’s owners, CEO and commercial team please?
It’s not the free admission, it’s the fact they’re thinking about a different approach instead of ripping off the fans. Good luck to them.
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I’ve decided to renew my season ticket but, although I know the club won’t care less, I’m not opting to go in for any of the cup matches. Will save me a few quid, all these millions on the waiting list can have my seat and, hopefully, I’ll be able to watch most of those matches on tv. Everyone’s a winner!!
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It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Absolutely, that's not the point though
Those supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
You don't know what they're going to be offered as an alternative, so maybe pipe down until you do.
They're going to be offered their pick of the available seating in the Holte (or elsewhere). Which won't be prime seats in big blocks next to all their mates, that's for sure. It's hard to get two seats together in the Holte let alone a bunch.
I agree we should have excellent disabled facilities, I'm just surprised there isn't a better solution than relocating 100 long term ST holders to house 8 spaces. Couldn't they make use of the corners etc?
UPDATE: Just had a call from a person at the ticket office assigned to triage the situation, apologising profusely for the lack of prior communication, suggesting that the ST renewal process had been brought forward suddenly which had caught them on the hop. Essentially, the renewal deadline of 31st May does not apply to those of us affected. I was offered two available seats in L3 and L5 (nothing in L4 is available right now), but these are much closer to the pitch, which is (for me) inferior to our current seats. Additionally, there is availability in the new safe-standing rail seats area in the Upper Holte, but I've never been a fan of being in the Upper Holte (no offence to UH aficionados), especially right at the back where I feel bionic vision is a prerequisite.
Once the ST renewal window is closed, the club will phone us again in the first week of June, when they will have full visibility of availability based on those who have and have not renewed. We then get first dibs on any available seats before the relocation window is open to existing ST holders. Hopefully, there will be more availability in L3/L5 by then, but I'm not holding my breath. The club will also try to accommodate any additional friends who we currently sit close to, subject to availability, but again, I'm not holding my breath. Finally, they are giving us 10% off our STs for this season.
So, it's a reasonable attempt to accommodate us under the circumstances. Obviously, I'd prefer it if it didn't happen at all, and we could just keep our seats, because we all love the position and (by-and-large) the surrounding company. I'm still pretty sad about it, as it's been a big part of our match-day experience for nigh-on a decade, but it is what it is.
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It's always been this way. We used to be sat on the back row of Witton Lane looking pretty much down the centre line of the pitch. The year after they finished the Trinity Road stand, Villa decided they wanted that stand to form the backdrop of matches on the telly (rather than the shitty Witton Lane as it used to be), so they evicted us for the Sky cameras.
I'm now seated in the middle of the Upper Trinity, but whenever Villa are on telly, it's pretty much from the viewpoint of my old seat.
That area is now the commentary box.
A few years back, when 3D was suddenly all the rage, they chucked the people in the front few rows out of their seats and put the cameras there.
Gary Neville is now in your seats.
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I’ve decided to renew my season ticket but, although I know the club won’t care less, I’m not opting to go in for any of the cup matches. Will save me a few quid, all these millions on the waiting list can have my seat and, hopefully, I’ll be able to watch most of those matches on tv. Everyone’s a winner!!
Eventually if you are not in the cup scheme, you won't be able to get a ticket for finals
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Says who exactly?
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Says who exactly?
done it at Manchester United to a friend recently
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I’ve decided to renew my season ticket but, although I know the club won’t care less, I’m not opting to go in for any of the cup matches. Will save me a few quid, all these millions on the waiting list can have my seat and, hopefully, I’ll be able to watch most of those matches on tv. Everyone’s a winner!!
Eventually if you are not in the cup scheme, you won't be able to get a ticket for finals
I don't think that's right, so long as you go to some games.
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Last trip to Wembley ST holders in the cup scheme were given priority over those that weren’t. With fewer Final Tickets than ST holders it can happen.
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Were we? Wasn't it done by block?
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Nope. My mates held fire on buying tickets as I wasn’t in the scheme. We all got tickets together, but did have to wait. I wasn’t very popular that day.
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Priority was for those that had held a season ticket since the relegation season.
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There were a number of priority criteria used. The away scheme was definitely one of them. I m not imagining it.
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For previous finals it was possible to get tickets with a record of less than half a dozen games, but with 30,000 season ticket holders, those days are gone.
It is even possible now for some season ticket holders to miss out & I’d imagine with increased capacity eligibility will start with ST + a full set of cup games. Only Away season ticket holders will have a full set of cup games unless we’ve been drawn at home all the way through, but there will only be a few thousand of them. Then it’s down to what criteria goes next.
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I'm looking at the email right now, there's no mention of those. Only having one continuously since 2015/16.
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The point being made, is that with fewer Cup Final tickets allocated than ST holders, the Cup Scheme could well come into play. It would be up to the club I guess. Let’s hope it’s a dilemma we face in the not too distant future. I’m an old bunny I’m desperate to see us lift the FA Cup.
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For previous finals it was possible to get tickets with a record of less than half a dozen games, but with 30,000 season ticket holders, those days are gone.
It is even possible now for some season ticket holders to miss out & I’d imagine with increased capacity eligibility will start with ST + a full set of cup games. Only Away season ticket holders will have a full set of cup games unless we’ve been drawn at home all the way through, but there will only be a few thousand of them. Then it’s down to what criteria goes next.
For previous finals it was possible to get a ticket by just standing in a queue outside the ticket office.
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The allocation for this year's Cup final is 30,500 for each club. We'd just about be fine.
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Actually you couldn’t. You collected vouchers in the programmes. Trouble was there was so much swapping and dealing going on, people who had never been to matches were getting tickets. ST holders who got a ticket anyway would give their vouchers to mates and family. What we have now is definitely fairer than then.
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I've got no evidence to back this up ( so maybe take it with a pinch of salt) , but just been sent this rumour...
Next season or the season after the Villa want to have your season ticket on your phone and no card. Won’t be able to pass ticket on but will have to put it on the re sale site.
Surely you could just ping the 3D barcode over to your chosen person to use your ticket.
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For previous finals it was possible to get tickets with a record of less than half a dozen games, but with 30,000 season ticket holders, those days are gone.
It is even possible now for some season ticket holders to miss out & I’d imagine with increased capacity eligibility will start with ST + a full set of cup games. Only Away season ticket holders will have a full set of cup games unless we’ve been drawn at home all the way through, but there will only be a few thousand of them. Then it’s down to what criteria goes next.
For previous finals it was possible to get a ticket by just standing in a queue outside the ticket office.
In 2015 I sat in Barbados buying kids tickets for mine and Jane’s husbands for games they weren’t even going to go to, and ended up with a booking history that got them both in the same block as us as season ticket holders.
We have been in cup finals since the advent of the internet despite what some people would think!
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I remember that for the 2000 final it was ticket stubs if you didn't have a ST, and games had different values, I think it was 1, 2 and 3 points depending on the competition and opposition.
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I've got no evidence to back this up ( so maybe take it with a pinch of salt) , but just been sent this rumour...
Next season or the season after the Villa want to have your season ticket on your phone and no card. Won’t be able to pass ticket on but will have to put it on the re sale site.
Surely you could just ping the 3D barcode over to your chosen person to use your ticket.
That is definately going to happen to all top level teams eventually.........Liverpool and I think West Ham do it already
The season ticket sits in your apple/google wallet
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I’m going to ask Santa for a burner phone . My grown up kids and mates who haven’t got a season love it , when one of our group can’t make it.
When I pay £779 for a ticket , I think it’s reasonable for me to chose what I do with the ticket. In our group we’ve never sold an unused ticket on (not judging anyone who does by the way) we just give it in turn to who can go.
Another thing to piss me off. If Purslow can’t make a game , will his seat go on resale ?
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The allocation for this year's Cup final is 30,500 for each club. We'd just about be fine.
Not for a European final we wouldn’t (I know). I’ve heard a West Ham fan say that the allocation for each finalist in the Euro Conference could be 4,000. No idea how true that is though.
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This season
CL, 20k allocation (72k stadium)
Europa League, 15k allocation (63k stadium)
Conference, 5k allocation (18k stadium)
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I’m going to ask Santa for a burner phone . My grown up kids and mates who haven’t got a season love it , when one of our group can’t make it.
When I pay £779 for a ticket , I think it’s reasonable for me to chose what I do with the ticket. In our group we’ve never sold an unused ticket on (not judging anyone who does by the way) we just give it in turn to who can go.
Another thing to piss me off. If Purslow can’t make a game , will his seat go on resale ?
It wouldn't surprise me at all. They get more money and we get another reminder that we're in the ground on sufferance.
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This season
CL, 20k allocation (72k stadium)
Europa League, 15k allocation (63k stadium)
Conference, 5k allocation (18k stadium)
Bit shit the conference league final being held in such a small stadium.
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If and when we've successfully navigated our way to a major final, I'll start worrying about getting a ticket.
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I've got no evidence to back this up ( so maybe take it with a pinch of salt) , but just been sent this rumour...
Next season or the season after the Villa want to have your season ticket on your phone and no card. Won’t be able to pass ticket on but will have to put it on the re sale site.
Surely you could just ping the 3D barcode over to your chosen person to use your ticket.
Friend does it at old Trafford, think you can print it out as well
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Remember when we were in the championship,I couldn't get anyone to use my season ticket during the shit times
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I'm sure it's not how you meant it, but sticking disabled fans in the corner isn't exactly equality or respectful.
As someone waiting for a wheelchair space, that's a much politer response than I was about to post!
I've responded above. I'm not talking about leaving people in a fire corridor like a scene from The Office. I'm saying I'm surprised a good solution couldn't be found without displacing 100 season ticket holders. ie creating space - whether by an extension to existing seating terrace or corporate facilities. I'd have thought the space at the junction of the Holte and Trinity could have been used for example fitting in with the existing seating. I appreciate it is always not as simple as that due to access etc, but we're talking about a billion pound business here.
Yes I saw your reply after I posted. Unfortunately it all needs to be level access for the wheelchairs so I'm not sure how they could put more places in the corner between the Holte and Trinity. We did sit there once for a game - it was very draughty!
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Remember when we were in the championship,I couldn't get anyone to use my season ticket during the shit times
TBF I think that was more the case in the final days of The Premiership. They’d be on Viagogo and not selling for a fiver!
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I wonder if part of the reason for the boom in attendances the last few years is because we'd maybe started to take for granted being in the top flight year after year, and it was only really when we weren't in it any more that we realised it's not something that will always be there.
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I wonder if part of the reason for the boom in attendances the last few years is because we'd maybe started to take for granted being in the top flight year after year, and it was only really when we weren't in it any more that we realised it's not something that will always be there.
There's a host of reasons, one of them being the Small Heath obsession that we attract families from the shires in a way no other club can. I've said for many a year that whoever could turn our casual fans into matchgoing supporters will fill the ground every week and now it's happening. Then there's something PWS reminded me of recently - people love to join a crowd.
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For me it's still the feelgood factor from end of promotion season that brought people back and that got folks back in the habit. The COVID break kept people hungry for live football which means we didn't see a drop off under Gerrard and now we're worth watching again.
On top of this, I think going to a PL game, any PL game, is an attractive proposition for a lot of people so that generates sufficient extra interest to mean we always sell out. What this will be like with the bigger stadium I don't know.
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Once season tickets are outstripped by demand. People who might be in two minds about renewing are afraid to drop out. It could be years before they get the opportunity again. I’m confident that if the increased capacity is still oversubscribed at the higher numbers, we will still be seeing full houses. Of course, a decline in our fortunes on the pitch could adversely affect demand, but that fear of giving up a much sought after ST would, even in those circumstances, be a strong incentive to retain that ST.
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Once season tickets are outstripped by demand. People who might be in two minds about renewing are afraid to drop out. It could be years before they get the opportunity again. I’m confident that if the increased capacity is still oversubscribed at the higher numbers, we will still be seeing full houses. Of course, a decline in our fortunes on the pitch could adversely affect demand, but that fear of giving up a much sought after ST would, even in those circumstances, be a strong incentive to retain that ST.
Absolutely where I am. When I moved north I was going to give up my season ticket and see how many games I got to. If I ended up being at most of them, then I would have thought about getting a season ticket again. Now, I just feel like I can’t give it up, no matter how many games I can’t get to because of re-arranged KOs. Next season with Europa League could be even worse but I’ll still be keeping it!
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Is anyone having problems renewing theirs? I tried to do it last night on the app, but the payment wasn't processed, despite my entering my details and opting into the home Cup game seating list (as they've scrapped the free first game >:() Is there a good time in the day to do it? Cheers!
As for the game today at Old Trafford, what minute do you reckon the first dodgy decision (VAR or otherwise) against us? I say 22 when John McGinn is "ruled offside".
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Not that I’m a ST holder currently or on the waiting list but still love all things AV and the workings of our great club. forgive me asking these couple of questions if I’ve missed them in this thread already, ;
If capacity of ST is still 30k next season, and knocking North about starts mid season, where will those ST be relocated, or will have a choice ? Is this discussed when those particular supporters renew ?
Simple maths, if this happens, assuming about 5k of upper/lower North are ST holders, when they are relocated, are the club allowed under premiership rules, offer no matchday tickets for remaining games, as there will be no capacity left ?
Only taking 100 seats out for 8 disabled spaces in holte plus another 8 or carers, plus access doesn’t seem a lot to create access, bearing in mind there are plenty of standing fans there for viewable access ? Have fans there been told that it’s a couple of rows affected or a sort of 10 x 10 rows/seats block ?
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https://cityxtra.co.uk/3573/manchester-city-release-unnecessary-season-ticket-price-increases-a-week-in-the-city/
Interesting
5% and there's uproar .....
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For those Season Ticket holders in P5 and P6 upper Doug Ellis. Those of us who retained our over 66 concessionary price through having held those seats for many years. There is a glitch on the online system whereby the concessionary price is not working. Phone up, you’ll get an apology and be able to get the reduction. Takes a while to get through, but at least it’s still there.
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Not that I’m a ST holder currently or on the waiting list but still love all things AV and the workings of our great club. forgive me asking these couple of questions if I’ve missed them in this thread already, ;
If capacity of ST is still 30k next season, and knocking North about starts mid season, where will those ST be relocated, or will have a choice ? Is this discussed when those particular supporters renew ?
Simple maths, if this happens, assuming about 5k of upper/lower North are ST holders, when they are relocated, are the club allowed under premiership rules, offer no matchday tickets for remaining games, as there will be no capacity left ?
Only taking 100 seats out for 8 disabled spaces in holte plus another 8 or carers, plus access doesn’t seem a lot to create access, bearing in mind there are plenty of standing fans there for viewable access ? Have fans there been told that it’s a couple of rows affected or a sort of 10 x 10 rows/seats block ?
There's been no talk of starting work during the season. Purslow said he doesn't like using half-finished stands so my guess is that it will be summer 2024 and be fully opened whenever it's complete.
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I wonder if part of the reason for the boom in attendances the last few years is because we'd maybe started to take for granted being in the top flight year after year, and it was only really when we weren't in it any more that we realised it's not something that will always be there.
There's a host of reasons, one of them being the Small Heath obsession that we attract families from the shires in a way no other club can. I've said for many a year that whoever could turn our casual fans into matchgoing supporters will fill the ground every week and now it's happening. Then there's something PWS reminded me of recently - people love to join a crowd.
Wasn’t that me? People love to go somewhere that’s hard to get in?
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Me and Dave were talking about it on the phone a few weeks or so ago.
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Me and Dave were talking about it on the phone a few weeks or so ago.
Ah ok. Me and Dave were on about it on the way to the Bournemouth game, when we saw the twat in the ‘Going Since 77’ Bournemouth top. He was only about 40.
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I understand the ST holder in the back rows of The Holte are being offered an early opportunity to look at what relocation spaces are available, but surely it would make sense for people in other parts of The Holte to be able to express an interest in moving to the standing area, and offer a swap system?
I release that there won’t be many at the back of The Holte who won’t want to stand anyway, & there’ll only be the odd few who do still want to be able to sit down every now and then. I still think that if there are some, there’ll be people who fancy the standing section who’d be in seats that those moving out would quite like.
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Me and Dave were talking about it on the phone a few weeks or so ago.
Ah ok. Me and Dave were on about it on the way to the Bournemouth game, when we saw the twat in the ‘Going Since 77’ Bournemouth top. He was only about 40.
I always have to be told something twice before it registers.
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Once season tickets are outstripped by demand. People who might be in two minds about renewing are afraid to drop out. It could be years before they get the opportunity again. I’m confident that if the increased capacity is still oversubscribed at the higher numbers, we will still be seeing full houses. Of course, a decline in our fortunes on the pitch could adversely affect demand, but that fear of giving up a much sought after ST would, even in those circumstances, be a strong incentive to retain that ST.
Absolutely where I am. When I moved north I was going to give up my season ticket and see how many games I got to. If I ended up being at most of them, then I would have thought about getting a season ticket again. Now, I just feel like I can’t give it up, no matter how many games I can’t get to because of re-arranged KOs. Next season with Europa League could be even worse but I’ll still be keeping it!
Dont ever let it go,Everton have a ST holder who’s 118!!!!
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Had a phone call from Lesley explaining situation regarding wheelchair access in L4, she offered us various seats in the lower Holte but only close to each other and said we will get priority if people don't renew, she also mentioned safe standing in the upper Holte L3 and and had two together,so we are having them at 10% cheaper.
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Once season tickets are outstripped by demand. People who might be in two minds about renewing are afraid to drop out. It could be years before they get the opportunity again. I’m confident that if the increased capacity is still oversubscribed at the higher numbers, we will still be seeing full houses. Of course, a decline in our fortunes on the pitch could adversely affect demand, but that fear of giving up a much sought after ST would, even in those circumstances, be a strong incentive to retain that ST.
Absolutely where I am. When I moved north I was going to give up my season ticket and see how many games I got to. If I ended up being at most of them, then I would have thought about getting a season ticket again. Now, I just feel like I can’t give it up, no matter how many games I can’t get to because of re-arranged KOs. Next season with Europa League could be even worse but I’ll still be keeping it!
Dont ever let it go,Everton have a ST holder who’s 118!!!!
We had one that sat in our group in the lower Holte for a number of years. Wasn't as old as 118 but in his early 100's He didn't go much so the season ticket was shared around and given to the oldest member of the group (early to mid 50s) to prevent suspicion. When I say didn't go much, he didn't go at all in the last 20 odd years on account of the fact he was dead.
Renewed mine yesterday. yes, it's gone up a hefty hike but I feel something is actually happening, not another false dawn but from where we are now looking like it might actually be a real dawn or at worst less false.
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How long have you got to renew?
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
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Dont ever let it go,Everton have a ST holder who’s 118!!!!
We had one that sat in our group in the lower Holte for a number of years. Wasn't as old as 118 but in his early 100's He didn't go much so the season ticket was shared around and given to the oldest member of the group (early to mid 50s) to prevent suspicion. When I say didn't go much, he didn't go at all in the last 20 odd years on account of the fact he was dead.
A fella near us went to the Roscommon v Galway game (18k crowd) a couple of weeks ago. He turned 106 back in Jan.
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
Thanks Chris.
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
Thanks Chris.
That feels very early this year because you usually have a month or so of not going to games before the deadline, but this year, the season ends no BAM - let’s have your money for the next one!
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
Thanks Chris.
That feels very early this year because you usually have a month or so of not going to games before the deadline, but this year, the season ends no BAM - let’s have your money for the next one!
I looked back and left it quite close to the deadline last year, but it was still only first week in June when I renewed.
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
Thanks Chris.
That feels very early this year because you usually have a month or so of not going to games before the deadline, but this year, the season ends no BAM - let’s have your money for the next one!
It does but the season is finishing 3-4 weeks later than normal.
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We'll beat Brighton in a thriller to get Europe on the last day (a dinked penalty from Coutinho in homage to Dwight Yorke's last-day winner against double-winners Arsenal 25 years prior) and season-ticket holders will be falling over themselves to renew.
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I gave up trying to renew online as I could not get past log in because the email address on which I receive all my emails is wrong according to their log in system. I phoned the ticket office. The whole renewal process took four minutes and I have received an email confirmation sent to the email address that I cannot log in with. Even the ticket office confirms that it is the correct address. I've given up trying to understand.
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How long have you got to renew?
Deadline is the end of May.
Thanks Chris.
That feels very early this year because you usually have a month or so of not going to games before the deadline, but this year, the season ends no BAM - let’s have your money for the next one!
It does but the season is finishing 3-4 weeks later than normal.
Yep I knew that!
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No. It's only a week later. Last season final game was 22 May and the season before 23 May.
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No. It's only a week later. Last season final game was 22 May and the season before 23 May.
Some of that was down to Covid issues though, it’s usually early May.
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4 seasons before covid 12, 13, 21 and 15 May.😊
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Me and the babby - 29951/2 on the waiting list.
It’s his fault I haven’t bloody got one. And now my daughter’s suddenly gone football mad too.
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4 seasons before covid 12, 13, 21 and 15 May.😊
31 days in May, so anything before the 16th is early May in my book 😉
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I'll renew in the Holte with my eldest son, he's 26.
It will be our third season as ST holders after about 4/5 years on the waiting list. As I expressed an interest in 'The Terrace View' I got a call from one of the hospitality team. He mentioned that they might offer access to the new bar/terrace on a match by match basis. The deal is as mentioned by others - c.£21 a match and you get two free drinks and a programme, plus the usual meet a former player stuff from time to time.
They will cap it at 1,000 if they manage to persuade that many to stump up the cash.
I made two main points:
1. The Holte End is different to the rest of the ground, and I and many other fans would not be happy with creeping gentrification - though we are not adverse to being in a nice space with the chance to buy a pint and pie without queing for ages.
2. That investing in getting the present 'offer' right in the Holte, plus the Holte Suite and Holte Pub would be a better option and would enable them to sell loads more beer, pies, and whatever.
The guy I spoke with seemed to get it, though I suspect they are too far down the road to fundamentally change tack. Plus he said they are investing to upgrade the bars and food offer alongside adding something new. UTV
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I'll renew in the Holte with my eldest son, he's 26.
Wow...make sure you both have couple of weetabix before you start.
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4 seasons before covid 12, 13, 21 and 15 May.😊
31 days in May, so anything before the 16th is early May in my book 😉
haha...love it.
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
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Nothing to do, i don't think.
Given how hard they are to buy, he's doing what most people would do.
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Nothing to do, i don't think.
Given how hard they are to buy, he's doing what most people would do.
"Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut"
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I have thought about this recently and I'd do the same. I'd also be massively annoyed with Villa if I notified them of losing a relative and I wasn't allowed to transfer the ticket. I feel like there must be compassionate reasons in the T&Cs that would allow you to keep the ticket
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I'd also do the same and keep it, I don't think its quite so clear cut that its the morally right thing to do mind.
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I think it’s reasonable to do this when you have someone in mind who is on the waiting list. It is queue jumping, but if your dad has just died and your son is in the waiting list for example, it definitely makes sense to hold that space til your son gets to the top.
It’s not exactly right, but it’s kind of sensible.
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
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Rat. Definitely rat. Moves me closer to the top.
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The lad I go with has a one year old son and we are already thinking about getting him on the waiting list. It might take years for him to get to the top and be offered one, and then how many seasons to get it moved close to us in the middle of the upper Holte.
No doubt after all that, he won't like football!
As for the death situation, check out the terms and conditions here;
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=usercontent/documents/html/tandc.html (https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=usercontent/documents/html/tandc.html)
3.16 If a Season Ticket Holder dies, the Season Ticket may be transferred to an immediate family member with the consent of the Club and upon the provision of a copy of the Season Ticket Holder’s death certificate and confirmation from the executor of the will of the Season Ticket Holder, administrator or other person responsible for handling the affairs of the deceased, that the family member is entitled to receive the Season Ticket. The Club may request additional information to clarify the position as it sees fit and will be dealt with on a case by case basis. The season ticket will be transferred to the fan ID of the family member but no booking history or Pride Rewards points will be transferred from the account of the deceased. If the concession conditions are no longer satisfied an upgrade price may be required to be paid for the remainder of the Season. Pro rata refunds will only be considered and granted at the discretion of the Club on a case by case basis.
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Nice, glad that's there. 😁
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If it's morally right to allow other people at the top of the list have the ticket in such circumstances then surely the same should apply to individual games that an ST holder can't attend. That doesn't happen does it? They're either put up for resale which I assume is first come first served or more than likely as people can't be arsed going through the process of all that they are given to a friend or family member for individual matches which is what I and my ST group do.
Personally, I'd like to pass on my ST to my daughter when I die and having invested in the club for over 50 years I hope I'm allowed to as the ST is a heirloom after 50 odd years when for many of those years it was an Albatross around the neck.
edit: wasn't aware of the rule posted above. Alles Klar!
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Rat. Definitely rat. Moves me closer to the top.
Haha.
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Thanks for all the comments. I wouldn't grass obviously but did feel that with so many waiting it wasn't great to be keeping a ticket in the name of someone who was on screen as a HEITS on Sunday (wonder how many more there are !). Didn't know about that rule which seems to make sense and provides reasonable direction as well.
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There must be hundreds of HEITS still holding season tickets.
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Is there anybody not renewing or still thinking about it for whatever reason?
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Is there anybody not renewing or still thinking about it for whatever reason?
A couple of dead folk I reckon....
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There must be hundreds of HEITS still holding season tickets.
Makes you feel sorry for the HEITQ.
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
Keep it for what purpose?
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
Keep it for what purpose?
for relative or friend
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
Keep it for what purpose?
for relative or friend
I wouldn’t keep it for his dad.
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
Keep it for what purpose?
Leave the seat empty to do Wilma's head in
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Advice required. Found out at the weekend that a mate of mine has renewed and has also renewed his fathers ticket even though he passed away during last season. Now I've got other mates on the waiting list and I know there's loads of you out there also on the waiting list.
Him renewing his Dad's ticket doesn't sit right with me but what to do ?
He doesn't sit with me but with another two STH's so wouldn't be sat on his own.
keep the ticket
Keep it for what purpose?
Leave the seat empty to do Wilma's head in
Ha!
Keep the ticket as it's what his Dad would have wanted and had his Dad still been alive would have used it. I see no problem with the 'hand me down' ticket going to a family member or friend as it's what happens to any possession when the owner passes on. It's only now that there is the high demand, it might not always be like this and with Villa being Villa that could well be the case in the future. Hopefully not for at least another 30 years or so.
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On Twitter Villa have said that the renewal rate has been extremely high and no relocations will be available into the Holte of Trinity B blocks.
Is this because they need to create room to relocate people in the area that will inevitably become corporate seating in due course, to go along with the prawn sandwich view bar?
(someone on twitter was told 97% renewal rate)
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On Twitter Villa have said that the renewal rate has been extremely high and no relocations will be available into the Holte of Trinity B blocks.
Is this because they need to create room to relocate people in the area that will inevitably become corporate seating in due course, to go along with the prawn sandwich view bar?
(someone on twitter was told 97% renewal rate)
At that rate (and excluding deaths, capacity increases) it would take the person 33,000th on the waiting list, 37 seasons to get a season ticket.
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...and people will be clamouring for the chance to see the 35 time consecutive Champions League winners in action
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...and the opening of the revamped Witton station
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So when the north stand is being rebuilt that is going to be very interesting.
What happens to holders there, and if it’s just to move them elsewhere and we have a similar renewal level, buying a ticket match to match will not be possible.
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Capacity would be down to 34,700 on the assumption nothing is lost from the Witton or Trinity, so with 3000 away fans, you'd have 1700 match day tickets for a good while.
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Capacity would be down to 34,700 on the assumption nothing is lost from the Witton or Trinity, so with 3000 away fans, you'd have 1700 match day tickets for a good while.
We'll very likely get exemption for the away allocation during redevelopment.
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Capacity would be down to 34,700 on the assumption nothing is lost from the Witton or Trinity, so with 3000 away fans, you'd have 1700 match day tickets for a good while.
Will we be able to play in the Champions League with capacity that low or will we have to relocate to Wembley Stadium?
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There must be hundreds of HEITS still holding season tickets.
Makes you feel sorry for the HEITQ.
Weekend at Bernies in B6
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Capacity would be down to 34,700 on the assumption nothing is lost from the Witton or Trinity, so with 3000 away fans, you'd have 1700 match day tickets for a good while.
Looking at the plans about a third of the lower Trinity is being reprofiled, so there will be a group of supporters that will need to be accommodated somewhere else.
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Based on the rumours of renewals I think there will be no more than 900 season tickets on sale to the waiting list
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Capacity would be down to 34,700 on the assumption nothing is lost from the Witton or Trinity, so with 3000 away fans, you'd have 1700 match day tickets for a good while.
Looking at the plans about a third of the lower Trinity is being reprofiled, so there will be a group of supporters that will need to be accommodated somewhere else.
Been rumours for quite a while that us behind the dugouts will get moved (or just priced out) at some stage.
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Given this data from the athletic, what’s thoughts on our pricing now ?
(https://i.ibb.co/FzTBy2K/F8581-D3-B-B9-B3-47-BD-8-C9-B-B63-F7-D157-D59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FzTBy2K)
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This is irrelevant really. It's the average price that matters. The highest (or lowest) prices could just be for a few seats, it's not really reflective of the general pricing policy.
For example, our £899 seats are for the '1888' seats in the Trinity. Basically the seats on either side of the Directors box that have been prawn sandwiched by adding padding and giving them a free tie.
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This is irrelevant really. It's the average price that matters. The highest (or lowest) prices could just be for a few seats, it's not really reflective of the general pricing policy.
I agree, it’s easy for them to get these simple figures to write about. It would be interesting to see someone add up the number of seats in each tier for each club and compare.
They’d still have to contact the clubs and try and get some idea of the adult/child and concessions mix, but it would give a better idea.
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This is irrelevant really. It's the average price that matters. The highest (or lowest) prices could just be for a few seats, it's not really reflective of the general pricing policy.
I agree, it’s easy for them to get these simple figures to write about. It would be interesting to see someone add up the number of seats in each tier for each club and compare.
They’d still have to contact the clubs and try and get some idea of the adult/child and concessions mix, but it would give a better idea.
Yep, just an average adult price per non corporate per seat would work. It doesn't even have to be av of actual prices paid, just what the average price in the ground would theoretically be.
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Newcastle have increased there season tickets by an average of 3-5% also for the Champions league group games it is £165.00 for the 3 games (£55.00 per ticket)
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To be honest, I'd be a bit miffed if the corporate offering included "prawn sandwiches". Has Roy Keane never been to a decent restaurant?
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I have asked what position is with season tickets and have been told people on waiting list have been contacted ....not sure unto what number
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Slightly off topic, but speaking to a mate in Philadelphia last night, he mentioned that tickets for the Villa Newcastle friendly are $200. Kind of a double header type ticket that includes the Fulham Brentford game, also.
If that's the only way to watch the Villa game, then it's a bit pricey. He may well be wrong of course.
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Nah.....there's loads of tickets way cheaper than that.
Prices start at $40
https://www.ticketmaster.com/premier-league-summer-series-ful-v-philadelphia-pennsylvania-07-23-2023/event/02005E8BCD255105
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Looks like the cost of a ticket in the approximate area I last sat for an NFL game at the Linc is $85
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I have asked what position is with season tickets and have been told people on waiting list have been contacted ....not sure unto what number
My mate was telling me that he’s added his lad to the ST list and he’s got a number of 36k odd.
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I have asked what position is with season tickets and have been told people on waiting list have been contacted ....not sure unto what number
My mate was telling me that he’s added his lad to the ST list and he’s got a number of 36k odd.
It is remarkable how demand for them has gone through the roof.
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Nah.....there's loads of tickets way cheaper than that.
Prices start at $40
https://www.ticketmaster.com/premier-league-summer-series-ful-v-philadelphia-pennsylvania-07-23-2023/event/02005E8BCD255105
Cheers for that mate
Will pass on that link!
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"Aston Villa is delighted to confirm season tickets for our 2023/24"
Hardly a necessary announcement when there's 30k on a waiting list. People in responses said they didn't get an offer to buy one and they are 100 & 500 in the queue. Wonder what's going on there - are we reducing from 30k slightly to better cope with North stand rebuild?
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Maybe all the ST holders from last season have renewed?
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I have asked what position is with season tickets and have been told people on waiting list have been contacted ....not sure unto what number
My mate was telling me that he’s added his lad to the ST list and he’s got a number of 36k odd.
It is remarkable how demand for them has gone through the roof.
It's a disgrace. I can't believe the club won't fulfil them.
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Maybe all the ST holders from last season have renewed?
I think there was an indication that approx 97% had renewed, which is amazing really, but even at that rate there should have been c 1k available. To not even get to 100 on the waiting list does seem surprising.
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Maybe all the ST holders from last season have renewed?
I think there was an indication that approx 97% had renewed, which is amazing really, but even at that rate there should have been c 1k available. To not even get to 100 on the waiting list does seem surprising.
Doesn’t bode well for me and my youngest,, who are numbers 29,551 & 29,552 respectively. And suddenly I’ve got a Villa mad daughter as well.
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They must be holding some back to accommodate current north stand season ticket holders when the rebuild begins.
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They must be holding some back to accommodate current north stand season ticket holders when the rebuild begins.
They don't need to, there are more than enough non ST seats to do that.
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It will depend how much of Witton Lane and Trinity Road won't be used during the build. I'm also not sure if there are regulations requiring X amount of tickets have to be available for each game for members etc. I'm assuming there are as no club sells all home seats as season tickets, even those with big waiting lists. Add in away fans, and there's no chance we'll be allowed to cut allocations in half, and you're probably at the capacity we'll have during the build.
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It will depend how much of Witton Lane and Trinity Road won't be used during the build. I'm also not sure if there are regulations requiring X amount of tickets have to be available for each game for members etc. I'm assuming there are as no club sells all home seats as season tickets, even those with big waiting lists. Add in away fans, and there's no chance we'll be allowed to cut allocations in half, and you're probably at the capacity we'll have during the build.
don't think they were away fans when the Holte was being rebuilt?
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There were. It was reduced though. But that was 30 years ago, before clubs were required to do 3000 or 10%.
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Does anyone know if we'll be issued with new cards? I've managed to lose all three of ours.
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New cards will be issued and expect arrival in early August. However you are a very bad "parent" Mortimer's Bear :o
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There were. It was reduced though. But that was 30 years ago, before clubs were required to do 3000 or 10%.
I think you can get dispensation if you're rebuilding though
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They're quick enough to reduce allocations for standing or breathing in the wrong place, so they can reduce for a stand being demolished.
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They're quick enough to reduce allocations for standing or breathing in the wrong place, so they can reduce for a stand being demolished.
You can break more than 100 rules and still walk off with the title, ignoroing their away allocations for a couple of years shouldn't be much of a problem
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They're quick enough to reduce allocations for standing or breathing in the wrong place, so they can reduce for a stand being demolished.
Man. City did that for a game last season (think it was v Liverpool) and just shifted the blame to the police.
I imagine away fans will get just one tier of the Witton, perhaps an extra block as that corner will surely be taken out of use once the North Stand is put out of public use.
Will still be allocation of 1.5-2k. Our capacity will be 36k so not like we need to offer that much more.
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My understanding is 10%* allocation for away fans for league games and 25% for domestic cup games.
*Based on ability to safely segregate - so we offer 7% based on current stadium layout (approx 2900)
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New cards will be issued and expect arrival in early August on the day before the first home game, having spent a couple of weeks panicking.
FIFY
Which would be an improvement on last year, when Villa had to email me printable tickets
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My understanding is 10%* allocation for away fans for league games and 25% for domestic cup games.
*Based on ability to safely segregate - so we offer 7% based on current stadium layout (approx 2900)
It's 10% up to 3k. So grounds under 30k have to give 10% of capacity, grounds over 30k it's 3k.
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My understanding is 10%* allocation for away fans for league games and 25% for domestic cup games.
*Based on ability to safely segregate - so we offer 7% based on current stadium layout (approx 2900)
For FA cup games it's up to 15% but capped at 9,000.
For league games (and league cup) it's min of 3,000 or 10% for clubs with capacity < 30k
The Safety Advisory Group (SAG) must also agree to the away allocation that has been proposed. The SAG is made up of representatives of services including the police, fire, ambulance and building authority. For fixtures that pose risks to health and safety, they can choose to decrease allocations for visiting clubs.
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Even then it's not set in stone as we only give 2800 apparently.
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This is what Spurs had in April, I checked them as it's recent and they'd have wanted the full allocation
Allocation: 3,005 including 139 restricted view tickets, 14 wheelchair user/personal assistant pairs and 14 ambulant/personal assistant pairs.
Prices: Adults - £30; Over-66 - £29.50; Under-18 - £27.50; Under-14 - £16.50.
Wheelchair and Ambulant tickets are priced as follows with a free of charge personal assistant ticket. Adults - £30; Over-66 - £29.50; Under-18 - £21; Under-14 - £12.50.
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2023/april/aston-villa-v-spurs-ticket-news/
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so thinking about this, of our 8,000 extra seats we will have to give 2,000 to away fans. I think a fair proportion will go to increased corporate offerings, so the actual increase for the day-to-day fans may only be 3-4k. It will hardly touch the waiting list. I think we'll need the Witton Lane looked at sooner rather than later.
<edit> - this is wrong! It's 3k max so ignore post.
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so thinking about this, of our 8,000 extra seats we will have to give 2,000 to away fans. I think a fair proportion will go to increased corporate offerings, so the actual increase for the day-to-day fans may only be 3-4k. It will hardly touch the waiting list. I think we'll need the Witton Lane looked at sooner rather than later.
No we won't. The maximum required away allocation for a league game is 3k. Doesn't matter if the ground holds 100k.
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so thinking about this, of our 8,000 extra seats we will have to give 2,000 to away fans. I think a fair proportion will go to increased corporate offerings, so the actual increase for the day-to-day fans may only be 3-4k. It will hardly touch the waiting list. I think we'll need the Witton Lane looked at sooner rather than later.
No we won't. The maximum required away allocation for a league game is 3k. Doesn't matter if the ground holds 100k.
Yes you're right, I'm confusing myself.
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So how far down the waiting list did they get???
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So how far down the waiting list did they get???
Well according to one person on Twitter less than 100. He claimed to be 100th in the queue and no invite.
I don't know if any were offered to the waiting list. Maybe they wanted to put any wastage towards finding space for people prepared to stump up the Holte View premium?
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Yeah I saw that, and the premium Holte queue jumping I hadn’t thought about.
2/7/21 So my 2yo went on the list at 5months old. I regret not doing it sooner.
1/6/22 “number 12,553 on the waiting list currently”
7/9/22 Season tickets are sold out for the 22/23 season. # 12136
11/22 told over 27k on w/list. (I forget what it’s up to now?)
24/4/23 email # 12,118 on list
Not happening soon is it!
Will update this with the new position if they send it out, presume they might now sold out?
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It was sent out in September last season..
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I haven’t been in a position to have a season ticket for the last few years, and won’t be for a couple more. For this reason I wasn’t in a rush to put my name down on the list. It was only when I saw that it was over 20k that I panicked and did so, and by that point I was down in the late twenties. Kicking myself that I didn’t just do it straight away, as it looks like it will now be a good while before I’m anywhere close.
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Genuine question, is is free to join the queue for STs, or do they ask you to become a claret member or anything?
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Des, it’s free IIRC, though I may have joined via a link on the members’section and wouldn’t have noticed any requirement to join first
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It’s free to be on the waiting list.
Getting tickets while you’re waiting to get to the top of the list probably requires you to be a claret member though. I don’t think many people who aren’t claret members will get tickets for most games.
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This is what Spurs had in April, I checked them as it's recent and they'd have wanted the full allocation
Allocation: 3,005 including 139 restricted view tickets, 14 wheelchair user/personal assistant pairs and 14 ambulant/personal assistant pairs.
Prices: Adults - £30; Over-66 - £29.50; Under-18 - £27.50; Under-14 - £16.50.
Wheelchair and Ambulant tickets are priced as follows with a free of charge personal assistant ticket. Adults - £30; Over-66 - £29.50; Under-18 - £21; Under-14 - £12.50.
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2023/april/aston-villa-v-spurs-ticket-news/
Interesting. I'm sure away figure has always been around 2.8k in recent times so interested how the extra 200 seats are given especially given the reconfiguration in the corner bit actually reduced the seating for away fans.
Edit: Didn't notice we gave the restricted view seats which are the ones often left empty at end of the rows so that would tot it up to over 3k.
Can't understand either how away fans pay 30 quid (I'm guessing the away ticket cap is still in place) but home fans in the exact same stand would be paying 40 quid for that fixture.
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IIRC restricted view is right at the back of the upper tier, it's the gantry that restricts the view.
£30 is the price cap for all away fans in the PL.
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Found this posted by a Brighton fan last game of the season
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx2rwucXgAAHncq?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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IIRC restricted view is right at the back of the upper tier, it's the gantry that restricts the view.
£30 is the price cap for all away fans in the PL.
It's not just that, it is also seats near the front of sections where the hand railings obscure your view a bit.
Only time I sat in a RV seat was up there, back when the away fans were lower North stand, and was one of those.
It was nowhere near as bad as that photo posted above, but I believe similar seats all around the ground are classified the same, there are quite a few of them.
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IIRC restricted view is right at the back of the upper tier, it's the gantry that restricts the view.
£30 is the price cap for all away fans in the PL.
Just feels odd we change our fans in the same stand with same views 35-40 quid tickets. Surely whole of Witton should be 30 quid then not that it will matter much when the North is down as they'll be very few match tickets available and they'll be snapped up in about 5 minutes if they even make general sale.
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IIRC restricted view is right at the back of the upper tier, it's the gantry that restricts the view.
£30 is the price cap for all away fans in the PL.
Just feels odd we change our fans in the same stand with same views 35-40 quid tickets. Surely whole of Witton should be 30 quid then not that it will matter much when the North is down as they'll be very few match tickets available and they'll be snapped up in about 5 minutes if they even make general sale.
There's a 30 quid price cap for away fans.
It's nothing to do with what you actually get or how it compares to home fans, it's to limit costs for away supporters.
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Found this posted by a Brighton fan last game of the season
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx2rwucXgAAHncq?format=jpg&name=900x900)
That's terrible, but are they standing up? I guess they have no choice if everyone in front of them is standing, but if they are then the view would be very different seated.
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They look like they're sitting to me.
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It’s free to be on the waiting list.
Getting tickets while you’re waiting to get to the top of the list probably requires you to be a claret member though. I don’t think many people who aren’t claret members will get tickets for most games.
For non claret members, season ticket holders can buy extra tickets after the claret window has closed. I did this for friends several times last season, it was only the last couple of games where this became really difficult. I guess there will be more claret members next season though, so you are probably right it will become almost impossible for non members.
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The whole thing is a nonsense.
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If there's not that many tickets coming up then they're just killing the hope of those further down the list by the list existing.
Would it be better to just do a ballot with them? At least then you have a chance
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The whole thing is a nonsense.
Why? Is quite hard to think of what you would do differently, apart from not have that £1500 option to go to the top of the ST waitlist, which was shit.
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I think Claret members will mostly get tickets to the games they want to this season. It almost never sold out in the Claret window last season and whilst I'm sure it will this season, those who are able to be fairly quick off the mark when they go on sale should still be alright.
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I think Claret members will mostly get tickets to the games they want to this season. It almost never sold out in the Claret window last season and whilst I'm sure it will this season, those who are able to be fairly quick off the mark when they go on sale should still be alright.
I think I agree as I've been to most home games that I've wanted to this past season. If I can't then get tickets for this coming one, I'll be pretty fed up having shelled out to do so. I wonder if they plan to limit the number of memberships.
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I think Claret members will mostly get tickets to the games they want to this season. It almost never sold out in the Claret window last season and whilst I'm sure it will this season, those who are able to be fairly quick off the mark when they go on sale should still be alright.
I think I agree as I've been to most home games that I've wanted to this past season. If I can't then get tickets for this coming one, I'll be pretty fed up having shelled out to do so. I wonder if they plan to limit the number of memberships.
I doubt it. It's money for nothing.
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If there's not that many tickets coming up then they're just killing the hope of those further down the list by the list existing.
Would it be better to just do a ballot with them? At least then you have a chance
The marketing team have done their job brilliantly. The need/want has been created so by the time we have a 50K capacity that too will be filled for every game*
I do hope extra tickets are available for ST holders as I have a Nephew and his son living in Devon who are desperate to get to some games next season.
* providing we don't revert to type.
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If there's not that many tickets coming up then they're just killing the hope of those further down the list by the list existing.
Would it be better to just do a ballot with them? At least then you have a chance
The marketing team have done their job brilliantly. The need/want has been created so by the time we have a 50K capacity that too will be filled for every game*
I do hope extra tickets are available for ST holders as I have a Nephew and his son living in Devon who are desperate to get to some games next season.
* providing we don't revert to type.
I would like this too, as we quite often want an extra one or two (we have 4 STs). But I’m not sure it’s” fair “ that I get priority for extras over Claret members.
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If there's not that many tickets coming up then they're just killing the hope of those further down the list by the list existing.
Would it be better to just do a ballot with them? At least then you have a chance
The marketing team have done their job brilliantly. The need/want has been created so by the time we have a 50K capacity that too will be filled for every game*
I do hope extra tickets are available for ST holders as I have a Nephew and his son living in Devon who are desperate to get to some games next season.
* providing we don't revert to type.
I would like this too, as we quite often want an extra one or two (we have 4 STs). But I’m not sure it’s” fair “ that I get priority for extras over Claret members.
We dont do we? I thought Claret members get tickets before season ticket holders can purchase extra tickets, i might be wrong, but sure someone else will clarify shortly.
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If there's not that many tickets coming up then they're just killing the hope of those further down the list by the list existing.
Would it be better to just do a ballot with them? At least then you have a chance
The marketing team have done their job brilliantly. The need/want has been created so by the time we have a 50K capacity that too will be filled for every game*
I do hope extra tickets are available for ST holders as I have a Nephew and his son living in Devon who are desperate to get to some games next season.
* providing we don't revert to type.
I would like this too, as we quite often want an extra one or two (we have 4 STs). But I’m not sure it’s” fair “ that I get priority for extras over Claret members.
You don’t it’s Members first, then extra for ST holders then General sale.
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They look like they're sitting to me.
Probably standing if you look at the posture of the bloke in blue on the left. Can't make out a seat behind his waist either.
(https://i.ibb.co/WBDR33W/Fx2rwuc-Xg-AAHncq-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2c8p667)
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I bought the last ticket on sale back in the second division against Bristol City in the 10 match winning run. It was just across from that photo in our section (obvs), and was right next to the TV gantry and the woman doing the updates for Sky. It was listed as obstructed view and it was absolutely shit, spent most of the game crouching in the aisle about 4 rows down to see what was going on at the Holte End.
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They should not sell those seats. Resricted view should mean you may have to lean a bit one way or another, not that you simply can't see half the pitch. The seats should be removed.
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At least they got to see our goals.
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IIRC restricted view is right at the back of the upper tier, it's the gantry that restricts the view.
£30 is the price cap for all away fans in the PL.
Just feels odd we change our fans in the same stand with same views 35-40 quid tickets. Surely whole of Witton should be 30 quid then not that it will matter much when the North is down as they'll be very few match tickets available and they'll be snapped up in about 5 minutes if they even make general sale.
There's a 30 quid price cap for away fans.
It's nothing to do with what you actually get or how it compares to home fans, it's to limit costs for away supporters.
Yep. It meant that some away games in the Championship years were more expensive than before relegation
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I bought the last ticket on sale back in the second division against Bristol City in the 10 match winning run. It was just across from that photo in our section (obvs), and was right next to the TV gantry and the woman doing the updates for Sky. It was listed as obstructed view and it was absolutely shit, spent most of the game crouching in the aisle about 4 rows down to see what was going on at the Holte End.
At least you had two home ends you could look at.
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Season ticket holders are urged to read the accompanying letter that will advise of further information including changes to the terms and conditions, these are relating to penalties for passing on and/or the sale of both home and away tickets.
The above is taken from the official website on the story about the season tickets selling out again. I thought it was already a thing anyway. Maybe they're going to be more harsh on people passing on their tickets.
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remember we're customers at the end of the day....
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God forbid you should want to give away something you own.
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I thought you were allowed to sell your home seat if you could not attend - obviously via AVFC where they take a commission. Is this still available ?
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I thought you were allowed to sell your home seat if you could not attend - obviously via AVFC where they take a commission. Is this still available ?
I did this a few times last season when my son couldn’t make it for the midweek matches, single seat in the lower Doug Ellis and I think it sold every time and it easy to do online. Upgrading the ticket to an adult is a ballache as you have to call up and it takes ages to get through.
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I thought you were allowed to sell your home seat if you could not attend - obviously via AVFC where they take a commission. Is this still available ?
I did this a few times last season when my son couldn’t make it for the midweek matches, single seat in the lower Doug Ellis and I think it sold every time and it easy to do online. Upgrading the ticket to an adult is a ballache as you have to call up and it takes ages to get through.
so is the sale process the same again this year. Mine went unused last year when i didn't go but now its like £45 a game i can't afford to not resell it
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AFAIK the sale process is the same.
I am hopeful that there will be more sellouts this season as they won’t resell your ticket until it is a sell out.
I believe you can also pass your tickets on if you notify the club. For example, if you go with a friend/family member & they can’t go one week, you can nominate another person to go with you as long as you’re not selling it. You can actually do this online and send an e-ticket to the other person.
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I have asked how easy it is easy to transfer a ticket to a friend. This was the reply:
There will be an opportunity where you will be able to officially transfer over a ticket to another supporter if you are unable to attend a match.
Once a fixture becomes available for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets, you will need to call the ticket office on 0333 323 1874 with your Fan ID and the supporter you wish to give your ticket to, Fan ID. We can then transfer over this ticket and an e-ticket for the supporter to use for that one match will be emailed over to you.
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AFAIK the sale process is the same.
I am hopeful that there will be more sellouts this season as they won’t resell your ticket until it is a sell out.
I believe you can also pass your tickets on if you notify the club. For example, if you go with a friend/family member & they can’t go one week, you can nominate another person to go with you as long as you’re not selling it. You can actually do this online and send an e-ticket to the other person.
I wonder if that is the bit they will be clamping down on. I hope not as it's better to pass the game on to someone you know rather than resell for a reduced price thorough the club. (I didn't know you cud do it on line I thought you had to phone up and ask for an e-ticket)
What I would say with the club resale is it's always worked very well when I've used it. It's as simple as clicking button. I've never understood why people leave tickets unused when the club resale is so easy.
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One of my nephews shares a ticket with his mate as both have young families and therefore other calls on their time and money. This worked without a hitch last season so I’m hoping they don’t get problems in future.
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Or, I just give my season ticket to my mate
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One of my nephews shares a ticket with his mate as both have young families and therefore other calls on their time and money. This worked without a hitch last season so I’m hoping they don’t get problems in future.
As long as there's no facial recognition I don't see how this could ever be a problem.
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I have asked how easy it is easy to transfer a ticket to a friend. This was the reply:
There will be an opportunity where you will be able to officially transfer over a ticket to another supporter if you are unable to attend a match.
Once a fixture becomes available for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets, you will need to call the ticket office on 0333 323 1874 with your Fan ID and the supporter you wish to give your ticket to, Fan ID. We can then transfer over this ticket and an e-ticket for the supporter to use for that one match will be emailed over to you.
So you can't transfer your ticket to just anybody , they have to have a fan ID already?
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Or, I just give my season ticket to my mate
Indeed, everything else is "going on a list" and nobody wants to be on a list.
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Do we know when season ticket packs are being sent out yet?
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One of my nephews shares a ticket with his mate as both have young families and therefore other calls on their time and money. This worked without a hitch last season so I’m hoping they don’t get problems in future.
i guess if someone sits near you who is after your seat for a friend / family member they can grass you up to the club ??
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One of my nephews shares a ticket with his mate as both have young families and therefore other calls on their time and money. This worked without a hitch last season so I’m hoping they don’t get problems in future.
i guess if someone sits near you who is after your seat for a friend / family member they can grass you up to the club ??
How would they know that you hadn't gone through the official channels?
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I have asked how easy it is easy to transfer a ticket to a friend. This was the reply:
There will be an opportunity where you will be able to officially transfer over a ticket to another supporter if you are unable to attend a match.
Once a fixture becomes available for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets, you will need to call the ticket office on 0333 323 1874 with your Fan ID and the supporter you wish to give your ticket to, Fan ID. We can then transfer over this ticket and an e-ticket for the supporter to use for that one match will be emailed over to you.
So you can't transfer your ticket to just anybody , they have to have a fan ID already?
Anyone can have a fan ID. If you want to transfer your ticket to someone who hasn’t got one yet, you could set one up for them in the same call. You’ll need their address & dob I think though.
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But you are meant to be limited to only doing it 6 times a season. Not sure if that is still the case.
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One of my nephews shares a ticket with his mate as both have young families and therefore other calls on their time and money. This worked without a hitch last season so I’m hoping they don’t get problems in future.
i guess if someone sits near you who is after your seat for a friend / family member they can grass you up to the club ??
How would they know that you hadn't gone through the official channels?
They wouldn't but they might flag it with the club to check that it has gone via the correct channel. I might sound paranoid but the bloke next to me is desperate to get his hands on my seat (i think)
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To get around the Fan ID issue, just ask the club to email it to you either via phone or twitter DM. You can then forward the pdf to whoever you want
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You can always now have a seat in the Upper Holte for almost 1600 ….. we are becoming a fan that has no interest in its fans
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Its not that much up there surely ? maybe £600 in the middle ??
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They have released 358 tickets in the upper Holte today with a nice hospitality area where you get two free drinks and if memory is right it’s 1570 per season
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They have released 358 tickets in the upper Holte today with a nice hospitality area where you get two free drinks and if memory is right it’s 1570 per season
I'm with you now , is that the Ramseys bar ? Never thought i'd see the day where you have "Corporate" in the Holte
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They have released 358 tickets in the upper Holte today with a nice hospitality area where you get two free drinks and if memory is right it’s 1570 per season
I'm with you now , is that the Ramseys bar ? Never thought i'd see the day where you have "Corporate" in the Holte
It's Terrace View, which is clearly selling as well as expected.
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I thought that was about £500 odd a season and you already had to be a ST holder? The latest was that it was selling so badly they were going to offer it on game by game basis, which would be great when our friendly visitors get hold of a few tickets.
Apart from the original splash I can't find any other reference to it on the site.
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I thought that was about £500 odd a season and you already had to be a ST holder? The latest was that it was selling so badly they were going to offer it on game by game basis, which would be great when our friendly visitors get hold of a few tickets.
Apart from the original splash I can't find any other reference to it on the site.
It was always going to be for anyone and you could pay £25 a match in the unlikely event that it wasn't sold out entirely for the season. These corporates were put up a few weeks ago but now they're being advertised. Pay an extra grand to jump the queue - welcome to modern football.
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I thought that was about £500 odd a season and you already had to be a ST holder? The latest was that it was selling so badly they were going to offer it on game by game basis,
My impression was that it was available on a game by game basis from the start (and that at 25 quid per game it was very reasonably priced).
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I'm going to sound really pissy here but I hope they are surrounded by the very worst coked up, foul mouthed, boorish occupants the Holte can cough up.
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The disgusting thing is another 350 on the waiting list could have been offered a season ticket at holte end prices
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This is just the beginning. All stands will have the best seats taken back for a lounge pass package, and the new North Stand will be the same, if not worse.
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This is just the beginning. All stands will have the best seats taken back for a lounge pass package, and the new North Stand will be the same, if not worse.
The price of success ? Is it worth it ??
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So were there 350 spare seats in the Upper Holte? Really?
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So were there 350 spare seats in the Upper Holte? Really?
350 that did not renew?
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The Holte is not all season ticket. I imagine this is why they installed the safe standing, maybe quite a few have relocated to that area freeing up some decent seats?
I always said this was the thin end of the wedge. There will be padded seats at the front centre of the upper Holte soon enough.
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I'm on the season ticket waiting list, 12500 ish last season, and registered my interest in the Terrace View when it was an option to. Because I wanted to know more about it.
Anyway, they've clearly invited people to take up the offer, but I wasn't one of them, so I'm guessing there is plenty of interest further up the waiting list.
So you think they're offering terrace view packages to people on the ST waiting list only? I didn't think it would be an actual season ticket, but more an annual corporate package (ie without ST renewal rights)
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I'm on the season ticket waiting list, 12500 ish last season, and registered my interest in the Terrace View when it was an option to. Because I wanted to know more about it.
Anyway, they've clearly invited people to take up the offer, but I wasn't one of them, so I'm guessing there is plenty of interest further up the waiting list.
So you think they're offering terrace view packages to people on the ST waiting list only? I didn't think it would be an actual season ticket, but more an annual corporate package (ie without ST renewal rights)
That's my guess, rather than being a corporate thing. I clicked the button, filled out my information and haven't heard anything, so I presume they have prioritised and offered on that basis?
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Re the 'Terrace View' for the Holte End. I asked for more details as I'm a ST holder in the Holte and I was curious.
When they called they said they probably wouldn't get ST holders to sign up in the numbers that would mean it would be at capacity, so they anticipated they would also offer it on a match-by-match basis. UTV.
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If they give renewable ST rights with this package, then Fred would be right, it would be a disgrace.
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If they give renewable ST rights with this package, then Fred would be right, it would be a disgrace.
It's a disgrace they're being offered anyway.
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I don't see how this doesn't end with padded seats in the Holte. And that would mean there's a strong chance it would include mine.
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I am confused.So who has been able to buy these packages?
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No idea ? i thought they were still for sale ? They are still being advertised on the official site but i didnt try and buy one.
edit, apologies i just read it again on the OS . Says eligible supporters were emailed . God knows who was "eligible"
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No idea ? i thought they were still for sale ? They are still being advertised on the official site but i didnt try and buy one.
edit, apologies i just read it again on the OS . Says eligible supporters were emailed . God knows who was "eligible"
That's why I thought it was people earlier on the season ticket waiting list, being given first dibs.
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Re the 'Terrace View' for the Holte End. I asked for more details as I'm a ST holder in the Holte and I was curious.
When they called they said they probably wouldn't get ST holders to sign up in the numbers that would mean it would be at capacity, so they anticipated they would also offer it on a match-by-match basis. UTV.
it shows on the official site attending on a match basis, it's giving options at the moment 1 fixture,2-4 fixtures 5-10 fixtures or 10-18 fixtures over the season
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Re the 'Terrace View' for the Holte End. I asked for more details as I'm a ST holder in the Holte and I was curious.
When they called they said they probably wouldn't get ST holders to sign up in the numbers that would mean it would be at capacity, so they anticipated they would also offer it on a match-by-match basis. UTV.
it shows on the official site attending on a match basis, it's giving options at the moment 1 fixture,2-4 fixtures 5-10 fixtures or 10-18 fixtures over the season
think thats just a survey.
When you click on "Buy" they aren't available
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No idea ? i thought they were still for sale ? They are still being advertised on the official site but i didnt try and buy one.
edit, apologies i just read it again on the OS . Says eligible supporters were emailed . God knows who was "eligible"
That's why I thought it was people earlier on the season ticket waiting list, being given first dibs.
Received the email, think they still got my son on the waiting list, even though he's got a season ticket,
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No idea ? i thought they were still for sale ? They are still being advertised on the official site but i didnt try and buy one.
edit, apologies i just read it again on the OS . Says eligible supporters were emailed . God knows who was "eligible"
That's why I thought it was people earlier on the season ticket waiting list, being given first dibs.
Received the email, think they still got my son on the waiting list, even though he's got a season ticket,
What did the e-mail say? Can you copy it here?
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No idea ? i thought they were still for sale ? They are still being advertised on the official site but i didnt try and buy one.
edit, apologies i just read it again on the OS . Says eligible supporters were emailed . God knows who was "eligible"
That's why I thought it was people earlier on the season ticket waiting list, being given first dibs.
Received the email, think they still got my son on the waiting list, even though he's got a season ticket,
What did the e-mail say? Can you copy it here?
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Saying you can apply for a new season ticket, normally they give you notice three times to apply for a season ticket, but on this occasion this will not count towards the three times
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doesn't even say where you are in Holte Upper ? i take it not a designated area
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I had this -
As a season ticket holder in the Holte End Upper, you have an exclusive window to bolt-on access to The Terrace View alongside your existing seat.
The deadline for your exclusive window is this Wednesday 12th July at 5:00pm.
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I'm on the season ticket waiting list, 12500 ish last season, and registered my interest in the Terrace View when it was an option to. Because I wanted to know more about it.
Anyway, they've clearly invited people to take up the offer, but I wasn't one of them, so I'm guessing there is plenty of interest further up the waiting list.
So you think they're offering terrace view packages to people on the ST waiting list only? I didn't think it would be an actual season ticket, but more an annual corporate package (ie without ST renewal rights)
That's my guess, rather than being a corporate thing. I clicked the button, filled out my information and haven't heard anything, so I presume they have prioritised and offered on that basis?
I received an email yesterday giving me the option to buy ....I know at start of last season I was at approx 4300 on the waiting list
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I am confused.So who has been able to buy these packages?
Im guessing been offered to first 5000 on waiting list
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I am confused.So who has been able to buy these packages?
Im guessing been offered to first 5000 on waiting list
Not according to The Moose above.
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I am confused.So who has been able to buy these packages?
Im guessing been offered to first 5000 on waiting list
Looks like its been offered to existing Holte Upper ST holders also ??
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It's a bit ambiguous, but I think I see this as just offering people on the waiting list first dibs at buying this annual corporate package. I don't think it will give renewable ST rights, other than resigning up to the same deal the following season.
But this is clearly why relocations into the Holte were not permitted and why the sales didn't even get to 100 on the waiting list this summer.
It stinks a bit tbh.
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I am confused.So who has been able to buy these packages?
Im guessing been offered to first 5000 on waiting list
Looks like its been offered to existing Holte Upper ST holders also ??
Yes, it was offered to existing ST holders first but they obviously haven't got the take-up they were hoping for, hence this bodge job to save their blushes.
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Having looked at it and clicked to buy, a figure of 4300ish appears - I wonder if this is the number of home regular tickets available match by match - would make sense if we have 30,000 season tickets.
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How much is it on a game by game basis ? £1600 / 19 = £84 , thats one hell of a premium for 2 pints and a programme !
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How much is it on a game by game basis ? £1600 / 19 = £84 , thats one hell of a premium for 2 pints and a programme !
thought it works out to about a extra £24 per game on top of other season ticket prices?
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How much is it on a game by game basis ? £1600 / 19 = £84 , thats one hell of a premium for 2 pints and a programme !
thought it works out to about a extra £24 per game on top of other season ticket prices?
Wasn't it 500 quid for the season or approx £26 per game? Given it included 2 pints and a programme it seemed quite cheap for a 'premium' offering.
It would also appeal to me on a single game basis if I was bringing a friend or an older relative, but didn't want to fork out for the corporate offerings.
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Having looked at it and clicked to buy, a figure of 4300ish appears - I wonder if this is the number of home regular tickets available match by match - would make sense if we have 30,000 season tickets.
42,000 capacity, 30k ST, 3k away = 9,000
I guess you then have to subtract corporate seats from that but it won’t be 5k.
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The cost is irrelevant, it's what it says about the club, the supporters and the direction we're going.
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
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Yes and its all crap. I don't understand why the points can't be carried forward. Typical Doug Ellis.
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
I know i just ordered a kids waterbottle and a string bag for the sake of it, ill probably never bothering to collect them
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
I know i just ordered a kids waterbottle and a string bag for the sake of it, ill probably never bothering to collect them
I ordered a load of tat months ago, still not collected it because the time slots for doing so are ridiculous. Waste of time to be honest.
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
Yes, I’ve been emailed.
Last time I rushed onto the site and used my points on tat I didn’t want, only for the club to then release some better stuff.
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I just spent it on entries for the X box. I’ll probably not end up with anything, but there’s at least a slim chance of getting something worthwhile.
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Claimed my points a few seasons ago and the villa bag is still showing to be redeemed
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
Yes I get those . I just delete them
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I bought a load of Villa gnomes with my points, the grandchildren love them, not sure how long they will last outside though so they are still indoors for now
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My lad got a rucksack last season, and uses it every day for school. It's worth it. We collected before a match, pretty painless experience to be fair.
I entered some draws with points last season.
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Has anyone else been getting email from the club with the Pride Rewards points expiring next week….what a load of old tat you can redeem for :-) :-)
Yes, I’ve been emailed.
Last time I rushed onto the site and used my points on tat I didn’t want, only for the club to then release some better stuff.
Bugger......I've just done exactly that! :-(
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My lad got a rucksack last season, and uses it every day for school. It's worth it. We collected before a match, pretty painless experience to be fair.
I entered some draws with points last season.
I’m not going to look what they’ve released now as I might regret what I ordered, but likewise my little one loved picking up loads of freebies last year, and also a 1 or 2 person queue prematch. As she is super cute the ladies doling out the stuff loved her and went and grabbed a few more bits so we left happily laden. Not that I want to encourage more ‘stuff’ but for my little ones it’s great. I’m almost tempted to ask what hasn’t been collected; if there seriously are a fair few items I wonder about getting them all together and them going to a good cause, kids love a bit of footy tat :)
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I tawt I taw some footy tat.
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I cashed in for a beeney hat at the end of the season. I received an email telling me collect the hat from the shop. They couldn't even be bothered to stick it in the post.
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I cashed in for a beeney hat at the end of the season. I received an email telling me collect the hat from the shop. They couldn't even be bothered to stick it in the post.
I know I’m now faced with the prospect of picking up a bloody kids water-bottle and string bag that my teenage son will look at me with a combination of disgust and bemusement, that I’d even contemplate him wanting them, and then having to keep hold of the bloody things during a match. I’ll never pick them up
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I cashed in for a beeney hat at the end of the season. I received an email telling me collect the hat from the shop. They couldn't even be bothered to stick it in the post.
"I cashed in for a beeney hat" is a truly poignant epithet. The factory of sadness is not done yet, even as good times beckon.
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I cashed in for a beeney hat at the end of the season. I received an email telling me collect the hat from the shop. They couldn't even be bothered to stick it in the post.
"I cashed in for a beeney hat" is a truly poignant epithet. The factory of sadness is not done yet, even as good times beckon.
It'll be worth more when she dies.
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I guess if ever other person who goes to shop to pick up also purchases something else whilst there they’ll see it as a win.
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I guess if ever other person who goes to shop to pick up also purchases something else whilst there they’ll see it as a win.
Pick up point isn't normally in the shop
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I guess if ever other person who goes to shop to pick up also purchases something else whilst there they’ll see it as a win.
Pick up point isn't normally in the shop
Then they are missing a trick :-)
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Match ticket prices released today
Cat A £80
Cat B £68
For a child in middle Trinity
F$%King hell!!!
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/july/17/Ticketing-details-for-2023-24/
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Match ticket prices released today
Cat A £80
Cat B £68
For a child in middle Trinity
F$%King hell!!!
Sorry but that's way way too much
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Good job I've got a ST as I wouldn't pay that for a one off.
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Match ticket prices released today
Cat A £80
Cat B £68
For a child in middle Trinity
F$%King hell!!!
Ah, but you get a padded seat in the 1888 seats.
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I can usually see that we need to put prices up to be competitive with other clubs, but fuck my old boots, that's some crazy pricing right there.
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It’s pricy for the premium seating areas but has it gone up much in Zones 2,3 and 4?
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£63 for an adult to watch some games in the Holte End, hahaha fuck off.
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My ticket in K4 would cost £1,004.50 to buy in single tickets.
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It’s pricy for the premium seating areas but has it gone up much in Zones 2,3 and 4?
£136 for a mum or dad and a kid to watch from the middle of the upstairs Doug Ellis. Utterly ridiculous.
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The difference between Cat A and Cat B prices is crazy.
1888 - £80 vs £68.50
Zone 1 - £68 vs £51
Zone 2 - £63 vs £45.50
Zone 3 - £58.50 vs £42
Zone 4 - £48 vs £40.50
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And Newcastle is now a category A? Was it last season?
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I feel Cat B prices are ok. But if I was making a choice on a game-by-game basis I'd struggle to justify forking out £63 for a seat in the Hollte.
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I don't recall those 1888 seats season tickets being advertised nor their price.
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I don't recall those 1888 seats season tickets being advertised nor their price.
They just upped the price for the people already sitting there by £100 I think. But they get a padded seat and the choice of a scarf or a tie. It's £899 for a ST there.
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Where's Fred when he's needed?
The club clearly thinks that we're going to do well next season!
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The temptation is look at the worst case and most expensive tickets but for a parent to take a 15 year old child to Villa v Sheff Utd in the upper north stand is £72.50. That can fuck right off.
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This pricing is horrific.
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And Newcastle is now a category A? Was it last season?
I think it was because I was sat in North Upper for that match and that's what I did for cat A last season. 50 quid is my limit so I'll be struggling a bit for cat A this season. Was expected but still a bit grim seeing it spelt out like that. Reckon I might have to revise aforementioned limit sooner rather than later too if I want to keep going.
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Wonder what they'll do for European games.
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Wonder what they'll do for European games.
Pricing is literally shocking and your right, if I’m to take both my teenage season ticket holding kids, to European home game, could be looking at a ton a game in the holte, fuck me that will be a pisstake if and when it happens.
Don’t normally quote myself, but for a cat A game it would be £87 for me and my 16 and 13 year olds, and I’m in L2 lower holte, in zone 4. Lets hope sense does prevail for the Euro games but not holding my breath.
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The European games are going to bankrupt us fans !
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Euro games may be the pricing 'get-out'; given that Spam played some fairly anonymous teams, perhaps ticket prices will be more affordable.
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You'd have hope if we get drawn against less attractive opponents that common sense would prevail. But with the prices we're charging for league games, I wouldn't like to Toney on it.
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the working class are being priced out . The atmosphere will suffer. This could be my last season , my ST has jumped up a lot these last 2 seasons. I can't make Sunday games so will be looking to resell my seat for those. I can't make Thursday nights so at least I won't be getting fleeced to watch pub teams from Kazakhstan.
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You'd have hope if we get drawn against less attractive opponents that common sense would prevail. But with the prices we're charging for league games, I wouldn't like to Toney on it.
I like your use of 'Toney' there - I'd put a pony on it.
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I'm lucky that at my age there's not many financial decisions that take priority over going to the Villa. But I can imagine that many fans are going to be priced out of following their team. It would be hard to justify spending £50+ on match by match basis & I think that's very sad.
I'd hope that European games, especially the early ones, would be priced sensibly.
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Don't think I'll be going to many category A games purely out of principle. Wolves was Cat A last season and didn't sell out, I can see the same happening a lot this season unless we're in or around the top 4.
They'd better keep the European games at a decent price as it's a genuine chance to win something. If we get sub-35k crowds and get turned over by Deportivo Dogshite in front of a flat crowd how embarrassing will that be.
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£63 for a ticket on the Holte End
I warned you all what's happening and you tried to make a joke of it all. They are driving out the working class, be careful what you wish for you greedy b******s
Disgrace
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£63 for a ticket on the Holte End
I warned you all what's happening and you tried to make a joke of it all. They are driving out the working class, be careful what you wish for you greedy b******s
Disgrace
What is the working class,none hear in Stratford upon Avon,old chap
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Majority of seats that will be available are no kids prices zones. Great for the future 👏 well done you nasty f****s
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The price of success , and we haven't even won anything !!
It's a real measure of what they think of the fans .
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£63 for a ticket on the Holte End
I warned you all what's happening and you tried to make a joke of it all. They are driving out the working class, be careful what you wish for you greedy b******s
Disgrace
Yeah because none of us had noticed the increasing prices of football over the years.
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£63 for a ticket on the Holte End
I warned you all what's happening and you tried to make a joke of it all. They are driving out the working class, be careful what you wish for you greedy b******s
Disgrace
Driving out the working class? That’s disgusting. They can walk can’t they?
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I'm sorry but I'm with Flin on this one.
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I'm sorry but I'm with Flin on this one.
I'd say most people are, but eye-watering price rises are hardly a bolt out of the blue.
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£63 to sit on The Holte, with the option of a snifter in The Terrace View at half time. We've already become what we hate.
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Its the speed of the hikes, not phased in slowly over a number of years, but bam, there you go, f**k you.
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It's still not as bad as £150 to see Deacon Blue.
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Looking at Man City and they offer all the hospitality light crap but also they have season tickets from £385 with it £180 for under 18s , as one category. Also other attractive price ranges.
There's a market for the padded seats but come on, £63 in the Holte End is a f*****g piss take
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Don't get the inconsistency of fair pricing for away fans £30 but absolutely can't wait to rip off home fans adult and children alike.
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These prices are absolutely disgusting and a clear message of "if you don't like it, fuck off"
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£63 for a ticket on the Holte End
I warned you all what's happening and you tried to make a joke of it all. They are driving out the working class, be careful what you wish for you greedy b******s
Disgrace
Spot on.
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Extremely distasteful, especially in the current financial climate. This is the worst thing the club has done in a long time, including being relegated.
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At those prices, we may not be needing a new stand, unless we can fill it with day trippers or corporates.
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That's probably the intention. Legacy fans and all that.
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It is disappointing that after a handful of years with a massive waiting list to buy season tickets they’ve decided that if they’re only going to have 8,000 match by match tickets, they’re going to exploit the pent up demand and absolutely screw the financial fuck out of people for them.
Where were you venal fucks when you struggled to give season tickets away?
Or when we were in the fucking second division four years ago.
Different story then.
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The first grave error under NSWE. Well perhaps the second after Gerrard. This is a real slap in the face for the fans though. Truly disgusted by it.
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We’ve had years of price stagnation in reality, due to us being duff for quite a while. It was plainly obvious that as soon as we started to show improvement prices would go in one direction. The steepness of them though is quite alarming. The demand has been created and those that vote with their feet will allow others to get in. That’s capitalism. The fact that your loyalty over many, many years has been discounted is what rankles with me. Yes, they’re homing in on those with the money as they’re the ones they want.
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It's very clear that their modus operandi = if the seat is in any way classifiable as 'a really good one', squeeze every penny they can for it.
So a cat A for a kid in an area with concessions available = 24-32, which doesn't strike me as too bad. But in the nice seats, 68 quid. Cat B kids in areas with concessions, £20.50-23, again, not that bad (comparatively, at least).
I think this is basically an advance setting of expectations for the reallocation of more seats to the highest price band, both in the Trinity (for example) and the new North Stand.
What disappoints me is just how much of the Holte is now in the second highest price band.
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Never mind going back 10/20/30 years, imagine going back 5 years and saying it will cost £63 to sit in the Holte and watch us play fucking Newcastle in the league.
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I'm old enough to remember when somebody unemployed could afford to stand on The Holte. An esteemed correspondent on these pages once said that what we need is three years of unremitting violence to get our game back. He was only half joking. In the 1960s/1970s/ 1980s going to football was a release from the general tedium of a lot of people's lives. The joy of seeing your team win and the camerarderie of being with your mates was something you could look forward to as almost an entitlement after week's work. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a season ticket but quite frankly I'd swap today's great seat seat in the Trinity for the sheer youthful exhileration of the football special to Bury in my Dad's workboots because I could not afford to buy Doc Martens for the sanitised safety of the middle class modern "soccer experience"as a "valued customer". I'm a bit pissed and will no doubt look back on this post tomorrow and wonder if I meant it. I hope I will think" Course I fucking do"
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I'll tell you what will happen in the aftermath of these price bumps (which, looking at last year's, represent more or less 20% across the board).
Absolutely nothing. They'll still sell the tickets, and we'll still buy them.
Some people won't be able to afford to, but other people will instead.
And they know that.
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I'll tell you what will happen in the aftermath of these price bumps (which, looking at last year's, represent more or less 20% across the board).
Absolutely nothing. They'll still sell the tickets, and we'll still buy them.
Some people won't be able to afford to, but other people will instead.
And they know that.
Yep.
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Don't think every game sold out last season though despite all the demand.
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Don't think every game sold out last season though despite all the demand.
There weren’t many empty seats at many games though. In all my 40 odd years of going, I don’t remember a time when it was consistently full or almost full every game. My 13 year old is just used to full houses now, its just what how it is for him. so unfortunately I think Paulie is right. If Im not there next season someone else will be in my stead. Its pretty shameful though to slam us so hard so wuickly.
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Nope, a few night games did not sell out including Manchester City last season or the one before. Despite having 30,000 on the list apparently.
That clearly shows , as I pointed out at the time and was ridiculed that the new support is VERY temperamental. If you were that desperate to go and IF we had 30k on a waiting list they would jump at the chance to go to VP....just not if it's a night game in December.
Where were these fuckers in the championship when the upstairs of the Trinity was closed off and where were they when the club were selling off upper trinity seats for 10 quid on viagogo before we were relegated..
As I said , there's a market for this crap and if they want to rinse the new brigade, fair enough but come on £63 on the Holte End. As mentioned if someone said that to you even 3 years ago you'd have said no chance.
We're not a London club and I'd say the majority of those in the Holte End are working class
It's beyond me how a family could justify paying out that money now to go
This with the badge disaster has really changed what should have been a great season ahead
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I see they've also tried it on with the "following fan consultation" bollocks again. Shameless.
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I often feel that my time as a match going fan is slowly running out. There are many factors at play here, but it may come into sharper focus after this news. Hopefully we have a long run in Europe but I shall think carefully about attending home games if the price is prohibitive. I'd rather save money to go to an away game on the continent. Depending in the price and availability of tickets of course....
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European and cup games are going to be expensive - but if you want to guarantee a ticket for the final (if we get there), then we are going to have to go to each home game.
It is going to be an expensive season.
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The reality of the Premier League and FFP right now is that if you want success you have to claw as much money in as you possibly can.
We can’t generate the kind of revenues the top clubs do through commercial deals, and FFP means our owners can’t chuck too much of their own money in. Match day revenues are then key to paying for the improvements we want on the pitch to win trophies.
We can have cheap tickets, of course, but we aren’t going to be signing the calibre of players we all want or competing for trophies like we all want.
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In the grand scheme of things matchday income is nothing. As I said offer the hospitality stuff but do not charge £63 for upper north/Holte and have no concessions in the upper trinity where tends to be the only available seats on a match by match basis.
Not only that , those who have been on the inflated 'waiting list' for some time can be overtaken by someone who's willing to pay £1500 for their 'terrace view' crap. If this happened on the continent the ultras would be rioting
It's bordering on being evil
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In the grand scheme of things matchday income is nothing. As I said offer the hospitality stuff but do not charge £63 for upper north/Holte and have no concessions in the upper trinity where tends to be the only available seats on a match by match basis.
Not only that , those who have been on the inflated 'waiting list' for some time can be overtaken by someone who's willing to pay £1500 for their 'terrace view' crap. If this happened on the continent the ultras would be rioting
It's bordering on being evil
£20m+ is literally not nothing. Yes, more money comes from the TV rights, but everyone gets that, so it’s cancelled out.
What are your suggestions for finding the extra income? If you have a better idea, please get in touch with the club as I’m sure they would look at any avenues they’ve overlooked.
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Stick with one club crest , for a start.
Many fans will have avoided buying shield badge merch as awaiting new badge. Now nobody knows what to buy , disjointed crap.
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What are your suggestions for finding the extra income? If you have a better idea, please get in touch with the club as I’m sure they would look at any avenues they’ve overlooked.
Like they listened to the feedback from the fans’ consultation? The club are taking the piss, fans who have been going for decades are going to really struggle and we’re going to see a shift in the make up of our support when “legacy fans” are finally priced out. See Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc with their silent home fans who only make a noise when they boo their team off at half time.
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Whilst Wilma is right to be angry about the prices, for all his ranting and raving, he does absolutely fuck all about it and expects others to on his behalf because he's busy. It's why I don't take him seriously.
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Stick with one club crest , for a start.
Many fans will have avoided buying shield badge merch as awaiting new badge. Now nobody knows what to buy , disjointed crap.
I strongly suspect not changing the crest everywhere is saving a fair amount of money. Anyone who's ever been involved in a business re-branding will know how much these things can cost.
You're saying we should sell more merchandise to people (a lot of it bought by people who don't go) in order to use the money to subsidise cheap seats for you?
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What are your suggestions for finding the extra income? If you have a better idea, please get in touch with the club as I’m sure they would look at any avenues they’ve overlooked.
Like they listened to the feedback from the fans’ consultation? The club are taking the piss, fans who have been going for decades are going to really struggle and we’re going to see a shift in the make up of our support when “legacy fans” are finally priced out. See Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc with their silent home fans who only make a noise when they boo their team off at half time.
But again, what choice have they got within the current financial climate of the Premier League?
People were moaning in January we didn't spend more, people are moaning this window we haven't spent loads, and if we don't compete this season then everyone will be moaning we didn't spend enough. But we can only spend if we get the revenue in, and until the rules change, ticket prices are one of the few ways the club can raise the funds to give us what we want.
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What they make extra in ticket prices is nothing , probably covers one really average player on the bench for a season.
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What they make extra in ticket prices is nothing , probably covers one really average player on the bench for a season.
You don't even know how much extra they make because you're literally only interested in yourself. You go on about the working class, but actually you're just pissed off that you have to pay more and you want every man and his dog to put their hand in their pocket so you don't have to.
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What are your suggestions for finding the extra income? If you have a better idea, please get in touch with the club as I’m sure they would look at any avenues they’ve overlooked.
Like they listened to the feedback from the fans’ consultation? The club are taking the piss, fans who have been going for decades are going to really struggle and we’re going to see a shift in the make up of our support when “legacy fans” are finally priced out. See Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc with their silent home fans who only make a noise when they boo their team off at half time.
But again, what choice have they got within the current financial climate of the Premier League?
I reckon they could shift an extra 20k pints every home game if they sold drinks to everyone who wants one. I’m not a business man, just a fan with over 45 years service. And if the owners can’t increase revenue without fleecing fans then they’re not the businessmen we all though they were
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Without full houses and the atmosphere it makes, they haven’t got a ‘product’ they can sell round the world.
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What are your suggestions for finding the extra income? If you have a better idea, please get in touch with the club as I’m sure they would look at any avenues they’ve overlooked.
Like they listened to the feedback from the fans’ consultation? The club are taking the piss, fans who have been going for decades are going to really struggle and we’re going to see a shift in the make up of our support when “legacy fans” are finally priced out. See Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc with their silent home fans who only make a noise when they boo their team off at half time.
But again, what choice have they got within the current financial climate of the Premier League?
I reckon they could shift an extra 20k pints every home game if they sold drinks to everyone who wants one. I’m not a business man, just a fan with over 45 years service. And if the owners can’t increase revenue without fleecing fans then they’re not the businessmen we all though they were
No idea what the margin is on a pint, but I estimate the last two ticket increases will net around £4m in extra revenue. Across 20k pints that'll need a profit of £10.52 per unit.
They're increasing revenue in loads of ways - ticket prices, increasing capacity and corporate offerings, accepting the highest possible sponsorship deal even against supporter opposition, hosting concerts and other events, buying academy players to sell on, overseas tours...
I agree that improving the matchday food and drink service will be a massive win and they can do more there. But I don't see that being enough to keep ticket prices low.
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I’m just completely against ripping off loyal fans and this is exactly what is happening. 60 fucking quid to sit on the Holte after half a decent season under Emery. If they want to rip people off, let em fleece the corporates until they squeak. If they ain’t happy, let them wine and dine their clients at St Andrew’s and see how that works out.
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While we are oversubscribed where ticket demand is concerned I believe there is a limit to how deep that demand is. We can attract "new" fans and tourists but this the West Midlands, not London and we also don't get the hype and exposure that Newton Heath and Stockport City receive.
Introducing premium pricing and semi-corporate areas on the Holte will puncture the atmosphere and it will never recover. The ground just won't be the same and that's a terrible shame.
It may be progress, it's certainly inevitable but it's going to leave an awful lot of us behind I'm afraid.
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I’m just completely against ripping off loyal fans and this is exactly what is happening. 60 fucking quid to sit on the Holte after half a decent season under Emery. If they want to rip people off, let em fleece the corporates until they squeak. If they ain’t happy, let them wine and dine their clients at St Andrew’s and see how that works out.
They are... a box in the Trinity has gone up from £45k per season to £90k.
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Totally ridiculous comment to make , caring about myself , not at all. I'm thinking about the future of our club , can't you see what's happening ? I'm lucky at the moment I can just about afford to go but any more big increases I'd have to take a look at it .
If they want to do the hospitality crap , then fine. Add the glass wall or whatever it is to the new north stand and there will be a market for it.
Charging £63 for fans to sit/stand on the Holte is too far. I don't care if you're skint or a millionaire, that's a f++++g piss take. And £63 for the upper north stand , is beyond belief.
The 'Terrace view' has had poor uptake that's why they are scrambling around now and letting people on the waiting list jump the queue for a season ticket it they stump up £1600 .
This won't end well
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It might be cheaper for ticket & travel to go to Newcastle away than to watch us play Newcastle at home.
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it's all getting ridiculous now. These prices are fine (well kind of) if you're a tourist or on a corporate jolly up, but how many people can really afford these prices? I don't have kids so I can afford it - for now - but if my ST gets much closer to £1k then I'll be reconsidering my future attendance.
Does anyone know if there's a limit on how many times you can resell your ST back to the club in one season?
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I go to a few games a season (last season it was 10) having a cursory glance at where I sat last year compared with the prices for this year. Seats appear to have gone up in price by as much as eight pounds in some cases.
K3 Man Utd last season £54.50 this season £63
K2 Man City last season £50. This season. £58.50
A4 Everton last season £44 this season £51
A5 Forest last season £44 this season £51
K2 C palace last season £37 this season. £42
K3 Brentford last season £40 this season £45.50
It looks like the category A games have had the big increases as they tend to sell out anyway. And the category B games have had increases but just not as severe. Bigger price increases depending on the stand too.
I think I’ll probably do a lot of the category B games this season, some of the other games will probably be selected for TV anyway.
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
But no doubt the quality of beer or service won’t improve though….they won’t make the investment needed to improve that side of things or they would have already done it
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
But no doubt the quality of beer or service won’t improve though….they won’t make the investment needed to improve that side of things or they would have already done it
Oh Gareth, the Terrace View!
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
But no doubt the quality of beer or service won’t improve though….they won’t make the investment needed to improve that side of things or they would have already done it
I can only speak for the Lower Holte and the service was much better with the new system where you order and pay at one of the terminals and then collect from the kiosk.
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
But no doubt the quality of beer or service won’t improve though….they won’t make the investment needed to improve that side of things or they would have already done it
Oh Gareth, the Terrace View!
lol….sign me up
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I can easily see an extra quid being added to beer prices this season too.
But no doubt the quality of beer or service won’t improve though….they won’t make the investment needed to improve that side of things or they would have already done it
I can only speak for the Lower Holte and the service was much better with the new system where you order and pay at one of the terminals and then collect from the kiosk.
In 2036 that level of service will make its way to Witton Lane Upper Chris :-) we’ve regressed to cans being poured into plastic pint glasses :-)
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European and cup games are going to be expensive - but if you want to guarantee a ticket for the final (if we get there), then we are going to have to go to each home game.
It is going to be an expensive season.
Even going to every European game won't guarantee you a ticket should we reach the final. We would receive a pitiful amount of tickets from UEFA as they look after corporate and the "UEFA family" first and foremost. I think West Ham only had 5,000 tickets . Its a bigger stadium in Athens but still nowhere near big enough.
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Four of us get together to go to about half a dozen games a season but I think these prices may well scupper that. To sit together we normally buy Trinity tickets. Last year some of the ticket prices were in my eyes crazy (I think we payed £53 for Leicester CAT A). £63 a pop this year for some games means we might not be meeting up at the game.
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Cat A games where we sit if i wanted to take one of my younger kids or grandkids i'd be staring into £68 a ticket . That seems very unfair. Not that fairness comes into this.
I'd like to see which part of the fan consultation suggested this madness.
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When it gets to the stage where it's cheaper to travel and watch us away from home than at Villa Park then you know it's fucked.
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On top of those match day prices, a high percentage must have paid the £40 claret membership in the first place too !
I wonder how many of those there are on top of the 30k ST holders. I’d assume at least most of the waiting list will be or they’d never get chance to buy tickets. Without a membership there is very little chance of games going to general sale…..and pretty much no chance next year with 7000 seats from a north end to reallocate around the stadium
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The 'Terrace view' has had poor uptake that's why they are scrambling around now and letting people on the waiting list jump the queue for a season ticket it they stump up £1600 .
Ahah!
I thought the waiting list was imaginary!
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Has anybody written to the club and expressed their disgust regarding these excessive price hikes, if so what was the response if any?
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Cat A games where we sit if i wanted to take one of my younger kids or grandkids i'd be staring into £68 a ticket . That seems very unfair. Not that fairness comes into this.
I'd like to see which part of the fan consultation suggested this madness.
& in all probability those £80 & £68 seats are the only ones where your likey to get 2or3 together. £240 to take 2 kids to a game throw in food & drinks ... £300 . Absolute scandalous prices
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The 'Terrace view' has had poor uptake that's why they are scrambling around now and letting people on the waiting list jump the queue for a season ticket it they stump up £1600 .
Ahah!
I thought the waiting list was imaginary!
Massively inflated to create what's happening now.
There's no way on earth 30,000 are on that list who would actually come forward and pay , if that was the case every single game would be sold out
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On top of those match day prices, a high percentage must have paid the £40 claret membership in the first place too !
I wonder how many of those there are on top of the 30k ST holders. I’d assume at least most of the waiting list will be or they’d never get chance to buy tickets. Without a membership there is very little chance of games going to general sale…..and pretty much no chance next year with 7000 seats from a north end to reallocate around the stadium
Yeah the email reminding me of my Pride membership renewal forgot to mention the price hike. Funny that.
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The 'Terrace view' has had poor uptake that's why they are scrambling around now and letting people on the waiting list jump the queue for a season ticket it they stump up £1600 .
Ahah!
I thought the waiting list was imaginary!
Massively inflated to create what's happening now.
There's no way on earth 30,000 are on that list who would actually come forward and pay , if that was the case every single game would be sold out
I don't think it's inflated, it's free to join & many will have joined purely because they can .
Charge a small amount & the list would half(at least) IMO
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Yeah I think some other clubs charge to get on and stay on a waiting list.
Missed opportunity , maybe they'll do this next year
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The cricket has done that now - you have to pay a fee to be on the "priority list" and enter the ballot for tickets.
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Yeah I think some other clubs charge to get on and stay on a waiting list.
Missed opportunity , maybe they'll do this next year
According to the Web it's ranges from £50 to £100 for Manchester United waiting list
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Buy a membership & you automatically go on a waiting list, buy 5 or more match tickets during the season & you automatically go on to the list otherwise charge a small fee(£15/20) . When its your turn & you don't take up the offer you go back to the bottom of the list .
That's how I'd do it .
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Do Some clubs still penalise ST holders who don't buy Cup tickets for the home games ? We are moaning now but there's scope for this to get a whole lot worse
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Without getting too political, it's pure capitalism. Paying to have the opportunity to pay for something.
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Brentford penalise you if you don't attend matches.
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The cricket has done that now - you have to pay a fee to be on the "priority list" and enter the ballot for tickets.
To be fair for Edgbaston this guarantees you tickets and a £5 per ticket discount. As it cost me £20 and I intend to purchase at least 6 tickets, it's a no brainer. The ballot remains free to enter.
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Ajax tickets on average around 31Euros to 40Euros (Champions League games were approx 65Euros last season), Feyenoord around 29Euros to 35Euros (season ticket around 315Euros)
Bayer Leverkusen - 40Euros on average for all games (most expensive season ticket is 440Euros), Schalke around 45Euros
Royal Union St Gillis (Belgium) Cat1 games in the main stand 47Euros
I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.
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I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.
That's not really comparing apples to apples, though is it? How about comparing us to the teams that finished top 8 in the league last year, as that's where we aspire to be regularly.
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I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.
That's not really comparing apples to apples, though is it? How about comparing us to the teams that finished top 8 in the league last year, as that's where we aspire to be regularly.
We don't come across favourably there either. Looking at Man City here there's only a couple of options that are more expensive than our equivalents. Some are significantly cheaper; https://www.mancity.com/meta/media/xowh15py/gold_season_ticket_pricing_map_23-24_mobile-2.pdf
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I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.
That's not really comparing apples to apples, though is it? How about comparing us to the teams that finished top 8 in the league last year, as that's where we aspire to be regularly.
I was trying to compare size of support and success - Feyenoord are Dutch champions and Champs League and have just sold all 33,000 season tickets with many on a waiting list. Ajax will be Europa League and have reached Champs League latter stages, their current waiting list for a season ticket runs into years.
Leverkusen are Conf League, but you can pick any Bundesliga club which will have the same price structure. Most Bundesliga clubs have long season ticket waiting lists.
RUSG are Belgium runners-up and sell out pretty much every home game they play, albeit at a small stadium.
My general point is that in a cost of living crisis, these prices are very hard to justify, especially when compared with equal size continental clubs with equal-sized over-subscription and support.
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Brentford penalise you if you don't attend matches.
Christ, I never go to Brentford matches unless we are playing them!
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This is on the back of sneaking into the 3rd tier European competition (not complaining at all fantastic season) but imagine of we get champions league.
It's all wrong and the club have completely lost all sense of reality
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I'd prefer my season ticket to be cheaper, I'm glad away tickets and the European away tickets are capped. Its an expensive hobbie and our exceptionalism that we're different from others is probably part of the anger- we're not. We just had low demand and high supply. Man City are a poor example because of this.
We have to be cautious as we are not north or west London and don't have anything like the tourist draw of Man United or Liverpool.
The only way these prices stabilise or drop is if demand does. This increases the value of the season ticket and will make selling 40,000 in 2 years an absolute inevitability; one way to protect your hundred million capital works investment.
I dont buy the class issue though. Absolute bilge.
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I fear for the price of season tickets next year.
For the 1888 seats on a game by game basis it's £1,394 against the current ST price of £899
For Zone 2 its' £1,004 against the current ST price of £779
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If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices
It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes
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If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices
It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes
Prices are cheaper up north though.
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This is on the back of sneaking into the 3rd tier European competition (not complaining at all fantastic season) but imagine of we get champions league.
It's all wrong and the club have completely lost all sense of reality
Erm, I reckon your pots are vantablack.
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This is on the back of sneaking into the 3rd tier European competition (not complaining at all fantastic season) but imagine of we get champions league.
It's all wrong and the club have completely lost all sense of reality
Erm, I reckon your pots are vantablack.
To be fair, you can’t lose what you never had.
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If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices
It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes
Prices are cheaper up north though.
we are up north. Its more expensive in London
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I'd prefer my season ticket to be cheaper, I'm glad away tickets and the European away tickets are capped. Its an expensive hobbie and our exceptionalism that we're different from others is probably part of the anger- we're not. We just had low demand and high supply. Man City are a poor example because of this.
We have to be cautious as we are not north or west London and don't have anything like the tourist draw of Man United or Liverpool.
The only way these prices stabilise or drop is if demand does. This increases the value of the season ticket and will make selling 40,000 in 2 years an absolute inevitability; one way to protect your hundred million capital works investment.
I dont buy the class issue though. Absolute bilge.
This is a good analysis.
Whilst i take Fred’s (never ending) comments about pricing the working class out of going to games, it is a flawed argument, not least because it seems like its based on one distinct version of what it is to be working class. I would say there are plenty of lower income groups in society that are both financially but also culturally disenfranchised from football, not least many of those living around villa park.
Nevertheless, the direction of travel in regards to pricing, will inevitably knock a lot of out of the game in the mid to long term.
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If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices
It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes
Prices are cheaper up north though.
we are up north. Its more expensive in London
There’s more north up north.
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Perhaps why those clubs can keep the price down is because they have in place multi-million pound shirt sponsorships deals, Liverpool and Manchester United are worth about £50 million a year each
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Looks like family packages on match day tickets and STs are a thing of the past also, am I wrong?
If you’ll indulge me, I’ve just added on sale dates to my electronic calendar, essential if I’m to have a hope in hell of picking up an extra Tkt/together, to have hope of getting both my little ones there.
Downside is where I used to search villa park in my diary to bring up home fixtures (including changes) that’s now flooded with all the onsale dates;
any top tips for an easy over view to show home fixtures inc dates changed for TV? Is the club site reliably updated with date/time changes, I have a memory it wasn’t at some point last season?
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While we are oversubscribed where ticket demand is concerned I believe there is a limit to how deep that demand is. We can attract "new" fans and tourists but this the West Midlands, not London and we also don't get the hype and exposure that Newton Heath and Stockport City receive.
Introducing premium pricing and semi-corporate areas on the Holte will puncture the atmosphere and it will never recover. The ground just won't be the same and that's a terrible shame.
It may be progress, it's certainly inevitable but it's going to leave an awful lot of us behind I'm afraid.
Yep.
Very soon we'll have a 52k ground. As much as it's annoying to say we simply haven't got a Newcastle type support in that we'd have 52k turning up every week if we were 17th as opposed to 7th or higher.
Perhaps I'm wrong but this pricing shift feels very short term thinking to me.
Go back 5 years and we were getting 30-35k in the championship which was of course pretty respectable but long way from selling out.
Then we employ DS, Grealish gets going, we win endless games in a row and suddenly 40k are watching us get promoted and like seeing a winning Villa team again.
19/20 and the prem actually felt interesting for us for first time in a decade so that was always going to be a season of regular sell outs regardless of marketing and price rises.
Then lost over a year due to covid so 21/22 was simply about people experiencing live sport again.
I genuinely would've been interested to see how our attendances would've held up last season if we'd continued in bottom half by appointing a manager not as good as Emery so it's important to remember we're not too many poor strategic decisions again from being bottom half.
Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?
That's the issue as we've been on a consistent rise for last 5 years but eventually it gets difficult to get much higher in the league unless plenty of things come together at the right time so that's the big question mark from 2025 onwards.
I just pick and choose now and tend to get to 5-6 home games a season so not as impacted as many others. We could easily have that number of home games in the cups up to December so interested how full VP looks on those nights given they won't be covered by season tickets.
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Cat A games where we sit if i wanted to take one of my younger kids or grandkids i'd be staring into £68 a ticket . That seems very unfair. Not that fairness comes into this.
I'd like to see which part of the fan consultation suggested this madness.
The Steven Gerrard fanclub a.k.a Mr Purslow.
I think this was his last act before leaving.
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I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.
That's not really comparing apples to apples, though is it? How about comparing us to the teams that finished top 8 in the league last year, as that's where we aspire to be regularly.
As recently as 2019 I went to an Arsenal game and sat behind the goal in home end (My Mum supports them) and paid £36.50. Upper tier was 60 odd quid but a) London and b) they'd won plenty under Wenger.
Man. City isn't that dear at all for what they've produced on the pitch in last decade.
Pretty sure Newcastle tickets have been very cheap with most in 30-40 quid range although interesting to see how significantly that shoots up now they're in the CL.
That's the thing though. It was a very good end to last season but we did only finish 7th. These prices are now starting to emulate clubs who are finishing top 4 in four out of every five seasons and winning a trophy every two seasons so bit of pressure on us to step up now with no guarantee it will work out.
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these are prices where you expect to be winning trophies
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Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?
Yes.
The thing is, we are criticising the club for being such money grabbing fuckers, but then also doubting their financial acumen in that if the above wasn't true, we wouldn't be making the ground bigger.
It's not good, it's too expensive, but from a business point of view, they know what they are doing, and building a new stand to have half the seats empty does not fit with that.
It's basic economics, we've got 30,000 people in a queue waiting for the right to spend several hundreds of pounds on a season ticket. That's scarcity and it winds up with raised prices.
If you look at other clubs, would we have thought, ten years ago, that West Ham could ever get 60k every home match? Or Spurs for that matter?
For decades now, the club has been run in an unambitious, plodding along way. Even under Lerner, when he spent big, we never bothered doing things like employing clued-up people with relevant experience, we didn't have a clue.
We have so much untapped potential, and this is the first time in my lifetime we've really looked like approaching fulfilling it. We even managed to win the league and the EC and end up in division two five years later, that's how badly this club has been run through the ages.
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Compare prices to the like of Bruce Springsteen and Pink concerts and many musicians and add refreshments I would say football is fairly cheap to them
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Compare prices to the like of Bruce Springsteen and Pink concerts and many musicians and add refreshments I would say football is fairly cheap to them
Taylor Swift tickets went on sale this week. Just the £750 quid each.
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For those that have been offered to terrace view tickets please can someone explain the workings ?
How much / concessions ?
In addition to ST price at whatever cost in holte ?
Will the game then be watched from this terrace, thereby freeing up more seats in the stand ?
If offered to those on waiting list, and they accept, do you automatically jump the queue when signed up ?
I’ve read that if someone on list takes up the option now but declines terrace view next year, they lose ST, so if a current ST holder takes up option but declines next year, do they also lose their seat….if so, no incentive whatsoever to join is there ?
Where is this located in the holte ?
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Compare prices to the like of Bruce Springsteen and Pink concerts and many musicians and add refreshments I would say football is fairly cheap to them
Taylor Swift tickets went on sale this week. Just the £750 quid each.
But people don't mind forking out for them without too much complaints
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For those that have been offered to terrace view tickets please can someone explain the workings ?
How much / concessions ?
In addition to ST price at whatever cost in holte ?
Will the game then be watched from this terrace, thereby freeing up more seats in the stand ?
If offered to those on waiting list, and they accept, do you automatically jump the queue when signed up ?
I’ve read that if someone on list takes up the option now but declines terrace view next year, they lose ST, so if a current ST holder takes up option but declines next year, do they also lose their seat….if so, no incentive whatsoever to join is there ?
Where is this located in the holte ?
it's only for the upper Holte and you actually get a seat, which could be the new installed rail seats as well,no viewing of the actual game, apart of the cost of the actual season ticket or even the extra of terrace view membership, you would have to factor in the extra cost of refreshments on top of the two 'free' drinks,it was about £6 a pint last season so I would imagine it would increase this season, saying that it cost me £17.40 at Walsall on Saturday for 2 coke drinks and 2 hot dogs
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Concerts aren't every other week though and tickets aren't all £750.
I had Springsteen ticket for less than £100 , good value for a once in a decade event , plus he plays 3 hours plus
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Concerts aren't every other week though and tickets aren't all £750.
I had Springsteen ticket for less than £100 , good value for a once in a decade event , plus he plays 3 hours plus
that's okay if everyone was charging £100 pounds a ticket, but on that basis my match ticket would cost about £120 for 3 hours
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Unless the singer gets laryngitis etc, you’re probably going to enjoy a concert you’ve chosen to go and see.
A trip to the villa has more jeopardy to it. Sixty quid might get you a 3-0 win, a 0-0 snooze-fest, or a dispiriting 4-2 loss.
We’ve probably had more bad games in one season than Springsteen has had bad concerts in thirty years.
They’re not comparable, unless you’re Bobby Charlton who probably thought Old Trafford was a theatre because of the silence.
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Concerts aren't every other week though and tickets aren't all £750.
I had Springsteen ticket for less than £100 , good value for a once in a decade event , plus he plays 3 hours plus
Exactly, its the loyalty aspect that both gets manipulated by football clubs and also disregarded when it suits, like when demand is outstripping supply like now.
You might love a certain band but the reality is you might see them a handful of times in your lifetime, or a handful of times a year if your mega keen. Some of us have been going to the Villa for four or five decades, most weeks. The club depends on that in the not so good times, but also football teams in general are structured around being part of something that really is more than just a bit of a hobby. Thats why the direction of travel is hard to stomach really, its more than just capitalism at play, as supporting Villa, or any club for that matter is ingrained in the lives on a far more regular basis than any other non work related activity that most of us undertake and the club knows this.
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I mentioned the price rises on Twitter. Most replies were of the same opinion as me but there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will. That's football - pay up and keep quiet.
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Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd
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Unless the singer gets laryngitis etc, you’re probably going to enjoy a concert you’ve chosen to go and see.
A trip to the villa has more jeopardy to it. Sixty quid might get you a 3-0 win, a 0-0 snooze-fest, or a dispiriting 4-2 loss.
We’ve probably had more bad games in one season than Springsteen has had bad concerts in thirty years.
They’re not comparable, unless you’re Bobby Charlton who probably thought Old Trafford was a theatre because of the silence.
I'm not sure if Springsteen has ever had a bad gig!
The blind faith of football supporters is/has and always will be used against us. Sure a few will drop out, me included eventually because of the cost but there are thousands that are willing to have my seat.and while that demand is there owners can pretty much do what they want.
I was thinking back to watching Villa beat Port Vale in the FA Cup in 87'??
My Holte End admission cost was a fiver.
A nice piece of nostalgia but now football is a different sport for us fans.
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Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd
I don't understand it either
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I mentioned the price rises on Twitter. Most replies were of the same opinion as me but there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will. That's football - pay up and keep quiet.
Exactly the stance of AVFC.
We have a huge waiting list so pay or someone else will.
Coming soon, penalties for ST holders who don't attend EFL cup fixtures.
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I mentioned the price rises on Twitter. Most replies were of the same opinion as me but there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will. That's football - pay up and keep quiet.
Exactly the stance of AVFC.
We have a huge waiting list so pay or someone else will.
Coming soon, penalties for ST holders who don't attend EFL cup fixtures.
friend a Manchester United season ticket holder if they are not in some of the cup schemes they don't get a choice of tickets for cup finals, but they did offer him one for the FA cup later on at £250 this year, politely refused
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We're replacing supporters with fans. If they can put corporates in the Holte they can do anything.
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I'm pretty sure Man Utd were placing 1 game league bans on ST holders who did not attend home cup games at one stage a few years ago , no idea if they still do that , literally treating their fans with contempt
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there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will.
I hate this sort of attitude. ******!
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Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd
The answer to that you have to have paid out for home games to be an away fan at most clubs. So the away ticket price for any fan is on top of these extortionate home ticket prices.
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Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd
The answer to that you have to have paid out for home games to be an away fan at most clubs. So the away ticket price for any fan is on top of these extortionate home ticket prices.
Didn't this come about after a coordinated fan backlash from across lots of clubs ? Was it twenties plenty campaign which ironically is now thirty
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Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?
Yes.
The thing is, we are criticising the club for being such money grabbing fuckers, but then also doubting their financial acumen in that if the above wasn't true, we wouldn't be making the ground bigger.
It's not good, it's too expensive, but from a business point of view, they know what they are doing, and building a new stand to have half the seats empty does not fit with that.
It's basic economics, we've got 30,000 people in a queue waiting for the right to spend several hundreds of pounds on a season ticket. That's scarcity and it winds up with raised prices.
If you look at other clubs, would we have thought, ten years ago, that West Ham could ever get 60k every home match? Or Spurs for that matter?
For decades now, the club has been run in an unambitious, plodding along way. Even under Lerner, when he spent big, we never bothered doing things like employing clued-up people with relevant experience, we didn't have a clue.
We have so much untapped potential, and this is the first time in my lifetime we've really looked like approaching fulfilling it. We even managed to win the league and the EC and end up in division two five years later, that's how badly this club has been run through the ages.
Spurs have been in europe pretty much every season since 2009 so that's helped them market the club to a wider fanbase for well over a decade.
If they'd built the 62k ground when they weren't even finishing top 6 in the 2000s I doubt they'd have been close to filling it. Only have to look at Arsenal getting sub 50k crowds at end of Wenger era (and during Unai's time) even if they kept on hilariously announcing it as 60k.
I get the potential aspect but we're coming from a long way down after the horrific management in the 2000s and 2010s.
Only 32k came to watch us v Stevenage a few months back. Now I get it was Stevenage and we'd just played Wolves, New year etc but ultimately if we really had thousands locked out for prem matches they could've just come to see the first game on our unstoppable path to FA cup glory....
Or it was a case of 35k fans suddenly didn't fancy paying extra for unattractive game and I think that will continue to be a problem as would imagine the europa games will be price at higher rates than FA cup 3rd round weekend and Thursday night is certainly more of an awkward time to get to VP than Sunday afternoon.
It's quite interesting the Stevenage crowd being so low when Everton got 39k at home to Boreham Wood in Feb 2022 as one example from recent times. That was a midweek game aswell.
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Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.
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I mentioned the price rises on Twitter. Most replies were of the same opinion as me but there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will. That's football - pay up and keep quiet.
The "twenty is plenty" campaign showed when all fans come together and actually agree on something relative change can happen (even if the cap was eventually 30 quid but that's not too bad in the present climate considering away prices were heading past 50 quid even a decade ago).
Think you've referenced that a few times Dave but it's that tribalism element that so often stops Football actually treating its fans....sorry customers with some acknowledgment of their continual commitment.
FA cup in a year or two going to a pretty much midweek competition is yet another kick in the teeth that could perhaps be stopped if there was aligned fan engagement.
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Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.
Ironically Everton had next to no interest in the FA cup that tear, think they put out a reserve side in the next round at Palace a week or two later and lost 4-0.
I'd be surprised if we sold out the europa group games tbh (play off should be o.k as that's the crucial one). Not like we're going to be playing huge names at that stage when you look at who West Ham were playing so I await the demand with interest.
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I baulked at the league cup final the other year v Ci£y as the only ticket left was £150 . I heard that some non corporate FA Cup final tickets this year were £250 !!! The price of success !! It's not just villa it's endemic in the elite game
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Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.
What is this 5th round you refer to?
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I pointed this out at the time and on many occasions
If villa fans were that desperate for a slice of the action every game would have sold out, if there's that much demand . The club opened up the away section upper tier a couple of times and it failed to sell. Yes they made it awkward to buy but if the famous waiting list was that interested the tickets would fly .
Looking at the players we have at our disposal l currently I'd say 7th again would be a massive achievement. Those prices are unrealistic for a club that's been poor for a very long time. You'd expect that on the back of winning the Champions League, not qualifying for a 3rd tier European tournament.
It will be VERY interesting to see the take up for a low level European fixture in the winter months if we can't even sell out against Manchester City in December.
You'll price out the loyal working class and then they might just not return when we inevitably at some stage, end up in the shit again
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There are about 361 Terrace View/Season Ticket packages left. Gives and indication of take up if you can recall the total amount, maybe about 100? 150?
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I thought the thing had a capacity of 1,000 people?
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There's a guy on Twitter confirming he's signed up to the Terrace View for £1,560. He was over 7k on the waiting list last June. He doesn't seem sure if he has full ST renewal rights or not.
Someone else said they called hospitality and asked and were told if you take it up you lose your position on the main waiting list, plus you cannot relocate in future.
It seems an absolute farce, the club don't seem to know what they're selling and people don't seem to know what they're buying. I reckon loads of people would pay £1.5k as a one off to get a permanent ST. I hope this isn't what the club is doing.
Apparently, approx 300 were made available, which suggests less than 700 of the fans who 'asked for this in their feedback' actually wanted it.
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There are about 361 Terrace View/Season Ticket packages left. Gives and indication of take up if you can recall the total amount, maybe about 100? 150?
Where is the seat for that package, is it just a random seat in the Holte End Upper or are they all sat together in say a central location ? Or is the package a bolt on to the existing ST (if you had one ?)
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There are about 361 Terrace View/Season Ticket packages left. Gives and indication of take up if you can recall the total amount, maybe about 100? 150?
Where is the seat for that package, is it just a random seat in the Holte End Upper or are they all sat together in say a central location ? Or is the package a bolt on to the existing ST (if you had one ?)
There is a bolt on package available to existing ST holders - that's about £475, so £25 quid per game.
The ones taking up the 1,560 package will get a guaranteed seat (I presume the same one for the whole season) It's definitely not in an allocated block all together, as there's nowhere in the Holte where there would be 300n seats together.
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Surely if they have bought that package, it's like any other hospitality package in the ground and they have to renew it next year or lose their seat?
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I think calling it hospitality is a bit of a misnomer.
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We're replacing supporters with fans. If they can put corporates in the Holte they can do anything.
Now they're flogging Terrace View season tickets for £1,560 there's no doubt in my mind the next step is a block of padded seats at the front of the upper Holte. It's the only way they can even try to justify that sort of price.
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I pointed this out at the time and on many occasions
If villa fans were that desperate for a slice of the action every game would have sold out, if there's that much demand . The club opened up the away section upper tier a couple of times and it failed to sell. Yes they made it awkward to buy but if the famous waiting list was that interested the tickets would fly .
Looking at the players we have at our disposal l currently I'd say 7th again would be a massive achievement. Those prices are unrealistic for a club that's been poor for a very long time. You'd expect that on the back of winning the Champions League, not qualifying for a 3rd tier European tournament.
It will be VERY interesting to see the take up for a low level European fixture in the winter months if we can't even sell out against Manchester City in December.
You'll price out the loyal working class and then they might just not return when we inevitably at some stage, end up in the shit again
There's a difference between wanting a season ticket and being desperate to go to a midweek game against Stevenage at an expensive time of year. Most people on the ST list will get to plenty of games through a season so won't be desperate every time there's a less attractive game.
The list exists. There will be some on it who won't necessarily put their money where their mouth is, but I've no doubt there's 20k or so who would.
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I pointed this out at the time and on many occasions
If villa fans were that desperate for a slice of the action every game would have sold out, if there's that much demand . The club opened up the away section upper tier a couple of times and it failed to sell. Yes they made it awkward to buy but if the famous waiting list was that interested the tickets would fly .
Looking at the players we have at our disposal l currently I'd say 7th again would be a massive achievement. Those prices are unrealistic for a club that's been poor for a very long time. You'd expect that on the back of winning the Champions League, not qualifying for a 3rd tier European tournament.
It will be VERY interesting to see the take up for a low level European fixture in the winter months if we can't even sell out against Manchester City in December.
You'll price out the loyal working class and then they might just not return when we inevitably at some stage, end up in the shit again
There's a difference between wanting a season ticket and being desperate to go to a midweek game against Stevenage at an expensive time of year. Most people on the ST list will get to plenty of games through a season so won't be desperate every time there's a less attractive game.
The list exists. There will be some on it who won't necessarily put their money where their mouth is, but I've no doubt there's 20k or so who would.
Don't bother trying to explain the difference between wanting a season ticket and wanting a ticket for an individual game, and dozens of people have explained it to him, but he won't (or can't) understand.
Also "if we can't even sell out against Manchester City in December"????
Moaning about not selling out matches five months before they actually happen?
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I'm sorry but if there's 30,000 people on a list wanting a slice of the action and all this so called demand, Manchester City in the league would sell out,I don't care if there was 5 or 5,000 UNSOLD seats , if you have that many people wanting to see the team they'd be snapped up.
We have not got the demand or consistent champions League runs to maintain the level of support we've picked up recently unlike say Manchester United.
We're only 12 positions away from discontent and people dropping out
Would you pay £60 odd quid to watch Villa 4th from bottom ? That will be the test
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I don't think the Wolves game sold out either , yes it was midweek but you'd still expect it to sell out ?
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I have a season ticket but couln't be arsed with the Stevenage game, especially as it was a Sunday 4.30pm kick off. That would mean not getting home until 9ish, which would result in serious earache from SWMBO.
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I don't think the Wolves game sold out either , yes it was midweek but you'd still expect it to sell out ?
Of course
The club also suggest it's a category A so will be very interesting to see if the waiting list stump up £63 to see us play Wolverhampton
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I don't think the Wolves game sold out either , yes it was midweek but you'd still expect it to sell out ?
Transport strike as well that day.
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I'm sorry but if there's 30,000 people on a list wanting a slice of the action and all this so called demand, Manchester City in the league would sell out
Which Man City in the league game are you talking about?
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I'm sorry but if there's 30,000 people on a list wanting a slice of the action and all this so called demand, Manchester City in the league would sell out
Which Man City in the league game are you talking about?
I'm sure it was November/December last year, possibly the year before. There were a couple of games that did not sell out
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This is so fucking boring.
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So you're worried we won't sell out when we are fourth from bottom? I'd be more worried about us being fourth from bottom, tbh.
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I'm sorry but if there's 30,000 people on a list wanting a slice of the action and all this so called demand, Manchester City in the league would sell out,I don't care if there was 5 or 5,000 UNSOLD seats , if you have that many people wanting to see the team they'd be snapped up.
We have not got the demand or consistent champions League runs to maintain the level of support we've picked up recently unlike say Manchester United.
We're only 12 positions away from discontent and people dropping out
Would you pay £60 odd quid to watch Villa 4th from bottom ? That will be the test
West Ham did last season and they were crappy
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London club - tourists-
Everything in london sells well because you have thousands of people looking for something to do
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This is so fucking boring.
Agreed.
It's very fucking boring.
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London club - tourists-
Everything in london sells well because you have thousands of people looking for something to do
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This is so fucking boring.
Agreed.
It's very fucking boring.
same old shit
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London club - tourists-
Everything in london sells well because you have thousands of people looking for something to do
but they were 4 from bottom were they not
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West Ham did well with league attendances , generally 62,400 !!
But the crowds dipped in Europe , just looked the QF had 53,000
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West Hams crowds are much more than I expected them to get, particularly for such a shit stadium. Fair play to them, I never thought of them as big enough to get 60k fans, London based or not.
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I think there was a report out though, that said that West Ham's "official" crowd is always much, much higher than the actual number of people in the ground.
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West Hams crowds are much more than I expected them to get, particularly for such a shit stadium. Fair play to them, I never thought of them as big enough to get 60k fans, London based or not.
I had a look last season and found that I could easily get tickets for all of their upcoming home games with no booking history. I suspect they really are cashing in on tourism as if you are visiting the UK and want to see a Premier League game down there, you're going to struggle to get into the rest.
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West Hams crowds are much more than I expected them to get, particularly for such a shit stadium. Fair play to them, I never thought of them as big enough to get 60k fans, London based or not.
I had a look last season and found that I could easily get tickets for all of their upcoming home games with no booking history. I suspect they really are cashing in on tourism as if you are visiting the UK and want to see a Premier League game down there, you're going to struggle to get into the rest.
just checked and it hasn't changed , anyone can buy tickets online into that ground
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Imagine the West Ham Bedrock resident! He'd be doing his nut...
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I think there was a report out though, that said that West Ham's "official" crowd is always much, much higher than the actual number of people in the ground.
There were blocks of empty seats in the home end when we played them last season. It’s the easiest ground in the country to get to on public transport, easy to get a pint in the ground, the worst ground in the league to watch football in though. Certainly wouldn’t want to go there every week. I think their cheapest season tickets are quite affordable though. Under £100 for U-18s.
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Its horrendous getting away from there apparently, watch West Ham fans start leaving on 75 mins
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Its horrendous getting away from there apparently, watch West Ham fans start leaving on 75 mins
Yeah, we left on 81 minutes last time as we were there for absolutely ages trying to get out the year before by car.
It's made worse for away fans as they block off the access and make you walk the long way back round.
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Worst ground I've ever been to. Absolutely soul destroying.
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That’s the best thing about it- how quickly you can get away from it after the game.
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Its horrendous getting away from there apparently, watch West Ham fans start leaving on 75 mins
Yeah, we left on 81 minutes last time as we were there for absolutely ages trying to get out the year before by car.
It's made worse for away fans as they block off the access and make you walk the long way back round.
Walk to Pudding Mill Lane station instead of Stratford and there’s no crowd and no police blocks.
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Worst ground I've ever been to. Absolutely soul destroying.
Spot on. The worst “football ground” I’ve ever been to. I should have brought binoculars with me to watch the game i was that far from the pitch.
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That’s the best thing about it- how quickly you can get away from it after the game.
It's quick to get to, one stop from Kings Cross. Getting away though is hideous, and I expect Pudding Mill Lane is absolutely no use whatsoever for 99.9% of away fans!
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That’s the best thing about it- how quickly you can get away from it after the game.
It's quick to get to, one stop from Kings Cross. Getting away though is hideous, and I expect Pudding Mill Lane is absolutely no use whatsoever for 99.9% of away fans!
Bloody tourists…
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Upton Park was a pain to get away from as well, even though the Tube was just across the street.
Last time I walked to East Ham and got on there
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That’s the best thing about it- how quickly you can get away from it after the game.
It's quick to get to, one stop from Kings Cross. Getting away though is hideous, and I expect Pudding Mill Lane is absolutely no use whatsoever for 99.9% of away fans!
Bloody tourists…
Bloody Cockneys...
;)
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Yeah I saw that, and the premium Holte queue jumping I hadn’t thought about.
2/7/21 So my 2yo went on the list at 5months old. I regret not doing it sooner.
1/6/22 “number 12,553 on the waiting list currently”
7/9/22 Season tickets are sold out for the 22/23 season. # 12136
11/22 told over 27k on w/list. (I forget what it’s up to now?)
24/4/23 email # 12,118 on list
Not happening soon is it!
Will update this with the new position if they send it out, presume they might now sold out?
So my nearly 2.5yo has been invited to splash the cash on the terrace view today.
Of note
"Please be aware that this does not count as one of your waiting list strikes. As per the waiting list terms and conditions, if you do not purchase a Season Ticket after being invited to do so on three separate occasions, you will be automatically removed from the Waiting List. This does not apply in this instance."
beyond that not v obvious what entitlement it brings, even with briefest of looks to FAQ....
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
I got a invite, the link/page doesn’t even work.
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
This is an excellent summary of what I have heard. Although some have been told if they take it up they are no longer on the ST waiting list, which is a massive flaw if true.
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I've seen pics of an area of the lower Holte that has been remodelled for disabled and also terrace view ? Thats how its described anyway
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Worst ground I've ever been to. Absolutely soul destroying.
Spot on. The worst “football ground” I’ve ever been to. I should have brought binoculars with me to watch the game i was that far from the pitch.
I’ve been high up in the side stand for athletics and I imagine that is fine for football too as it’s a single tiered bank. The away end is indeed the most soul destroying stand in football with a colossal gap between upper and lower and a Berlin Wall construction on the left. All a small train ride from the pitch, which is probably why the atmosphere is abysmal.
Re attendances, a mate tells me their tickets are surprisingly cheap for London and his lad pays
£100 per season.
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they've got sheff utd tickets up for £68, the only chelsea tickets left are £199 in a corporate lite type area
I went there for the Olympics and the view was great watching runners on the track but shot put / javelin was miles away so watched on the screen
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I've seen pics of an area of the lower Holte that has been remodelled for disabled and also terrace view ? Thats how its described anyway
can you show me the picture, that's where my seat is, they said I have to relocate and now said we may not have too, so we are waiting for it to be finished and we can go and view it
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I've seen pics of an area of the lower Holte that has been remodelled for disabled and also terrace view ? Thats how its described anyway
can you show me the picture, that's where my seat is, they said I have to relocate and now said we may not have too, so we are waiting for it to be finished and we can go and view it
I tried to copy it here off Twitter mate but hit technical snag , I'll try again, it looks odd, like a slightly sunken block of seats with access at the back to what I assume is this terrace thing
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
I mean, it looks amazing. Never in a month of Sundays but I pay for it, but it does look good.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
I mean, it looks amazing. Never in a month of Sundays but I pay for it, but it does look good.
"The Ultimate Fan Matchday Experience". That would be the last game of the season as we smash Man City 4-0 to win the League not an overpriced pint in a beer garden surely?
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
With half of those supporters who participated in our survey interested in a new enhanced fan experience in the Holte End.....
We've decided to reduce the space and facilities for 80% of them to try and rake in a bit more cash.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
With half of those supporters who participated in our survey interested in a new enhanced fan experience in the Holte End.....
We've decided to reduce the space and facilities for 80% of them to try and rake in a bit more cash.
I know its the bullshit bingo spin, just treating everyone like they are thick. That crap grates almost as much as the price hikes. Anyway…
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
I mean, it looks amazing. Never in a month of Sundays but I pay for it, but it does look good.
Does it? It's a new lick of paint on an existing concourse with loads of facilities ripped out (two massive toilets and one smaller one). The stated capacity of 1000 means most people will be standing rather than leaning on the benches. There will be no windows towards the field during or immediately prior to the game due to licencing rules. As far as I can tell, it's just the current concourse with a bit of strobe lighting, a lick of paint, and a couple of benches?
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Upton Park was a pain to get away from as well, even though the Tube was just across the street.
Last time I walked to East Ham and got on there
I remember being stuck in traffic on the way out and sending my brother out for fish and chips, he was back with 3 portions and we'd moved about 10 yards.
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(https://i.ibb.co/sym1yyJ/F1a-Pa-KWIAEzf-T3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sym1yyJ)
here's that area of seating in Holte Lower
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Upton Park was a pain to get away from as well, even though the Tube was just across the street.
Last time I walked to East Ham and got on there
I remember being stuck in traffic on the way out and sending my brother out for fish and chips, he was back with 3 portions and we'd moved about 10 yards.
At least it was easy for him to find your place then.
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
This is an excellent summary of what I have heard. Although some have been told if they take it up they are no longer on the ST waiting list, which is a massive flaw if true.
It's in the FAQ.
2 pints and programme and a lanyard for each game. There are ex Players doing a Q&A. Access for 2.5 hours before and 1.5hrs after each game. I'ts league games onlyy, with availability for other games and priorty given to Terrace View Holders.
If you take it up, you lose your place on the regular season ticket waiting list, and if you then don't renew your Terrace View ticket, you join the regular list again at the bottom.
You get the best available seat in Holte Upper, which could include Rail Seating.
I was invited yesterday, but my lad wasn't.
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
This is an excellent summary of what I have heard. Although some have been told if they take it up they are no longer on the ST waiting list, which is a massive flaw if true.
It's in the FAQ.
2 pints and programme and a lanyard for each game. There are ex Players doing a Q&A. Access for 2.5 hours before and 1.5hrs after each game. I'ts league games onlyy, with availability for other games and priorty given to Terrace View Holders.
If you take it up, you lose your place on the regular season ticket waiting list, and if you then don't renew your Terrace View ticket, you join the regular list again at the bottom.
You get the best available seat in Holte Upper, which could include Rail Seating.
I was invited yesterday, but my lad wasn't.
This is the uncertain bit. I think different people have been told different things, but if I was on the waiting list and this was true it would be a deal breaker for me.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
I notice that the graphics include the view of the Terrace but not the view from the Terrace, which would just be of the plebs in the Holte End car park
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/24/introducing--the-terrace-view/
I notice that the graphics include the view of the Terrace but not the view from the Terrace, which would just be of the plebs in the Holte End car park
sweeping views across the burger and hot dog vans
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I think that it looks like a very nice space. It's the compromise to the space for the rest of us that annoys me the most - losing the main bar and the largest toilets etc I can't see it being anything other than a much shitter experience for the 80%.
Well that and the fact I'm convinced there will be some padded seats in the Holte within the next 2-3 seasons.
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Well that and the fact I'm convinced there will be some padded seats in the Holte within the next 2-3 seasons.
and carpet underneath their feet
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I've had the email invite for Terrace View this afternoon. They must be struggling to shift these packages
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Hope they are.
Bastards
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Great to see true fans showing their support right behind the club.
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It gives you two pints and a programme in an area which used to be free but now has a couple of benches in it so they're charging entry. In addition, you get a seat in the Upper Holte which could be absolutely anywhere. You won't find out until the ST gets delivered to you.
For this, the price is £1,560, compared to the £1,260 the package would cost to Holte Upper Season ticket holders who were offered it. Whilst you renew that ticket, you can't relocate it anywhere else and your waiting list spot doesn't move. I think the £300 is a 'just because we think enough of you will pay it' fee.
This is an excellent summary of what I have heard. Although some have been told if they take it up they are no longer on the ST waiting list, which is a massive flaw if true.
It's in the FAQ.
2 pints and programme and a lanyard for each game. There are ex Players doing a Q&A. Access for 2.5 hours before and 1.5hrs after each game. I'ts league games onlyy, with availability for other games and priorty given to Terrace View Holders.
If you take it up, you lose your place on the regular season ticket waiting list, and if you then don't renew your Terrace View ticket, you join the regular list again at the bottom.
You get the best available seat in Holte Upper, which could include Rail Seating.
I was invited yesterday, but my lad wasn't.
This is the uncertain bit. I think different people have been told different things, but if I was on the waiting list and this was true it would be a deal breaker for me.
That's what the FAQ says, quite clearly.
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Great to see true fans showing their support right behind the club.
The club has done a lot of things very well and we're lucky to have such excellent owners. But any genuine fan would have told them the Terrace View idea in the Holte was a bad one, partly because it's not the right stand for corporate and mostly as it is impacting on the majority to create a bit of cash from a few. I think they will just about make it wash to save face, but I very much want it to fail as it should be a valuable lesson.
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Great to see true fans showing their support right behind the club.
The club has done a lot of things very well and we're lucky to have such excellent owners. But any genuine fan would have told them the Terrace View idea in the Holte was a bad one, partly because it's not the right stand for corporate and mostly as it is impacting on the majority to create a bit of cash from a few. I think they will just about make it wash to save face, but I very much want it to fail as it should be a valuable lesson.
If they want to make people pay premium prices for the best seats in the stadium I think people would be more accepting if the club were open and honest about it and explained clearly what they’re trying to achieve. Yes people will be pissed off if they’ve sat in a particular area for years. The move to premium seating has been going on by stealth for the last 15 years and was very much accelerated by Purslow in the last few years. My own wish is that the club once they build the new North Stand come out clearly and state which areas they are designating for this type of seating rather than pussyfooting around marketing bollocks and fan surveys etc. it would of course be helped if they reduced or held prices in areas which aren’t seen as premium seating.
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Great to see true fans showing their support right behind the club.
The club has done a lot of things very well and we're lucky to have such excellent owners. But any genuine fan would have told them the Terrace View idea in the Holte was a bad one, partly because it's not the right stand for corporate and mostly as it is impacting on the majority to create a bit of cash from a few. I think they will just about make it wash to save face, but I very much want it to fail as it should be a valuable lesson.
The Terrace View isn't corporate though, nobody's going to be taking clients there. It's just an "enhanced" more expensive offering, like you get in lots of the new stadia these days, such as Spurs and Wembley.
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Great to see true fans showing their support right behind the club.
The club has done a lot of things very well and we're lucky to have such excellent owners. But any genuine fan would have told them the Terrace View idea in the Holte was a bad one, partly because it's not the right stand for corporate and mostly as it is impacting on the majority to create a bit of cash from a few. I think they will just about make it wash to save face, but I very much want it to fail as it should be a valuable lesson.
The Terrace View isn't corporate though, nobody's going to be taking clients there. It's just an "enhanced" more expensive offering, like you get in lots of the new stadia these days, such as Spurs and Wembley.
Well yes, corporate is the wrong term for now. But a private lounge which could well in due course have private access to padded seats...
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When it was first announced the price was shown as £1,300 plus VAT. That shows the sort of market they were going for.
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When it was first announced the price was shown as £1,300 plus VAT. That shows the sort of market they were going for.
The people in the waiting list who don't mind spending more to get a season ticket.
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When it was first announced the price was shown as £1,300 plus VAT. That shows the sort of market they were going for.
The people in the waiting list who don't mind spending more to get a season ticket.
Which isn't really working if they have already got to offering it to those at 12500....
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I wish they'd be equally as keen to invest in better service offerings in all other areas of VP. They'd make more money off faster pouring systems in all stands across a season than they will on the Terrace View.
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its a good test of the "pent up demand"
Maybe they'll take some learnings from this
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Lets face it they do these things in stages. The 1888 seats were allocated this season. These have been Zone 1 seats for decades, but now they're padded with approx £100 premium on the Z1 price. Next season that gap will grow and eventually, they will be fully swallowed up.
I think they're doing the same with the Terrace View. I just don't see how the planned next phases wont include a premium area at the front of the upper Holte. The aim is probably 1,000 premium seats with access to the terrace view bar. If we don't push back now it's bound to happen.
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
The fact we sell out every week would seem to make your assertion nonsense.
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
The fact we sell out every week would seem to make your assertion nonsense.
Not true
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If the front row of the Upper Holte is Terrace View, will we see a change in the banners being displayed? Out with 'Villa/Stella/Balti', in with 'Villa/Fizz/Vol-au-vents'?
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I think they would be better off working on more corporate in the Witton Lane. Restructure the stand so you have less seats but with a premium for this space
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Witton Upper in the middle is prime for Corporate and they could convert the old Lions Club into the lounge where they serve up the seriously overpriced mediocre food
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Is that lions bar not in use anymore?
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Is that lions bar not in use anymore?
I'm not sure , we used to be able to use it as a ST holder but don't think we can anymore . Not been in there for years
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
Oh we do.I welcomed the raise in season ticket prices and move to premium beverages provision areas as in upper Holte. I only wish when most of us, Squires from Shires, arrive at Villa Park there was ample room for parking our Range Rovers. But can't moan as long as it keeps out lower class riff-raff.
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
Oh we do.I welcomed the raise in season ticket prices and move to premium beverages provision areas as in upper Holte. I only wish when most of us, Squires from Shires, arrive at Villa Park there was ample room for parking our Range Rovers. But can't moan as long as it keeps out lower class riff-raff.
Exactly. Everybody knows we're a middle class club with a large mainly middle class fan base.
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We didn't have that sort of fan base but it's becoming increasingly so and Purslow's ideal was to increase it to maximum. What Heck thinks we shall have to see.
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
That's what West Ham fans probably said
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
That's what West Ham fans probably said
hell of a lot of tourists and casuals there / day trippers etc. Tickets available to anyone
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Is that lions bar not in use anymore?
It's Bar 1874 now, which you can pay for. Or win in a Pride Rewards raffle.
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Is that lions bar not in use anymore?
It's Bar 1874 now, which you can pay for. Or win in a Pride Rewards raffle.
Primed and ready for full corporate transition
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Utter garbage, we do not have the type of fan base for this nonsense.
That's what West Ham fans probably said
hell of a lot of tourists and casuals there / day trippers etc. Tickets available to anyone
thought he was on about corporate fans
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Apologies if it's been mentioned previously, but any idea when season tickets are (or have been?!) posted out?
Not long to go now, and I've received nout so far.
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Still waiting for the new disabled seating to be sorted in the lower Holte first, anyone got updates on it
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Just saw this via Twitter: https://villatrust.org.uk/aston-villa-ticket-statement/
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
It needs some clarification, but most reading will realise that the £1500 is a season ticket rather than just bar access.
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
True - they're trying to charge £1,560.
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
True - they're trying to charge £1,560.
I mean for the add on price or whatever it is which is about £480. The £1500 is with the season ticket malarkey. There's no mention of the original add on price at all. They could at least be clear about it.
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
True - they're trying to charge £1,560.
I mean for the add on price or whatever it is which is about £480. The £1500 is with the season ticket malarkey. There's no mention of the original add on price at all. They could at least be clear about it.
It's not well-written at all even if the sentiment is understandable.
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That does include 38 pints of luke warm Carling
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Saying that the club is trying to charge £1500 for the Terrace View is a little misleading.
True - they're trying to charge £1,560.
I mean for the add on price or whatever it is which is about £480. The £1500 is with the season ticket malarkey. There's no mention of the original add on price at all. They could at least be clear about it.
It's not well-written at all even if the sentiment is understandable.
Oh I thought it was just me being precious about it, I found absorbent rather than exorbitant really distracting.
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I can’t really find anything to disagree with in that statement. To quote/steal a text sent to me from from Pat McMahon, the club do seem intent on encouraging the sort of fan base that we mock other clubs for having.
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so if you buy a place in Terrace View it sounds like you will have an account manager who will help you get away tickets ?
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Every few days there is a little something more that makes the ticking clock of my regular attendance at Villa Park a bit louder.....
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I actually think time served home and away fans should get some kind of ‘concierge’ level of service from the club just as part of an entry level customer service process to acknowledge loyalty, but in the world of footy that will never happen and instead they are offering it to newbies with deeper pockets.
I get the angst about people jumping the queue but there would also be some people not on the waiting list who would describe themselves as ‘diehards’ who know they couldn’t afford our season ticket prices let alone anything more expensive.
Sadly that’s the way it is these days and there will be plenty in our region who would forgo ‘kids for a quid’ prices to be in our position.
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That does include 38 pints of luke warm Carling
sounds like my average weekend
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Every few days there is a little something more that makes the ticking clock of my regular attendance at Villa Park a bit louder.....
That’s true for everyone. It’s called aging. I know you’re referring to the level of price increase but the consolation will be that by the time you’re of pensionable age you’ll only be paying probably twice what you’re paying now!
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I'm fully aware that despite my many years of sitting through utter shite, The Villa want me to fuck off and vacate my cracking seat in the Witton Upper, to someone with a lot more disposable income.
The boasts of a 30,000 season ticket waiting list won't mean shit if we do a Leicester in a couple of years. It wasn't that long ago that the Trinity Upper was shut and there were empty seats dotted all over Villa Park.
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Witton Upper middle block will be corporate before long i reckon
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Witton Upper middle block will be corporate before long i reckon
That’s my seat ?
Why would you say that?
And there is no way they could put corporate types in the upper…..you can’t swing a kitten in the concourses up there so the hoi poloi won’t be impressed.
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What is the corporate hospitality like in there? There can’t be that much room fir the existing boxes, can there?
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I do pay a premium to sit in B3 in the Trinity but worryingly they have said that next season the seats will be padded - I think that they will want to use this as a reason to kick us out and turn into another add on corporate hospitality area aligned to the Gas Lamp Lounge which I have to say is overpriced for what is offered.
I remember Tony Stephens (?) saying years ago that it was the Corporate boxes etc that were the real money earners not the ‘turnstile’ income.
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Witton Upper middle block will be corporate before long i reckon
I think those awful stairs might be a bit if a limitation.
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I would say that them padding your seat is an absolutely cast iron guarantee that your seat is going to get significantly more expensive and quite possibly become ‘a corporate’.
They won’t be doing that out of the kindness of their hearts.
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I do pay a premium to sit in B3 in the Trinity but worryingly they have said that next season the seats will be padded - I think that they will want to use this as a reason to kick us out and turn into another add on corporate hospitality area aligned to the Gas Lamp Lounge which I have to say is overpriced for what is offered.
I remember Tony Stephens (?) saying years ago that it was the Corporate boxes etc that were the real money earners not the ‘turnstile’ income.
It’s now the corporate seat and a but of grub , boxes ar very passé and poor returns from a £ per square metre.
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Witton Upper middle block will be corporate before long i reckon
That’s my seat ?
Why would you say that?
And there is no way they could put corporate types in the upper…..you can’t swing a kitten in the concourses up there so the hoi poloi won’t be impressed.
I say it purely because they are some of the best seats in the ground. I don't want to give them ideas but they seem hell bent on exploiting every opportunity to extract money from the customer base. We are literally just a number. I sit up there too which is why I've mentioned it .
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Every few days there is a little something more that makes the ticking clock of my regular attendance at Villa Park a bit louder.....
I’m hoping for one of those ticks next May….see us win the FA cup and that will be me done as a season ticket holder
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I remember Tony Stephens (?) saying years ago that it was the Corporate boxes etc that were the real money earners not the ‘turnstile’ income.
Not sure about that. In any business it's the volume that makes money. Pile em high sell em cheap is still true as it always has been.
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The missus has been offered the terrace view. Not sure how come, I'm assuming it's somehow linked to that time she got a ticket for the albion Cup game, the secrets of its procurement I believe she plans on taking to her grave.
She's not taking up the offer.
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The missus has been offered the terrace view. Not sure how come, I'm assuming it's somehow linked to that time she got a ticket for the albion Cup game, the secrets of its procurement I believe she plans on taking to her grave.
She's not taking up the offer.
sounds like they've been through the waiting list and are now contacting anyone left in the database
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I hope this backfires on them and the take-up remains poor. How desperate do they look.
A few seasons with big crowds and they act like this, we're only a bad season away from the upper trinity being closed down .
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We had a bad season and finished 14th. The upper Trinity remained full.
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I mean relegation
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I mean relegation
[/quoteI mean relegation
You're on the Meth early today. Teams don't drop from 7th to relegation without some behind the scenes troubles and players leaving. Neither are happening. You're talking shit again, worry about being beaten by Peterborough with a DVB as your manager.
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Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen
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Why don't you post about memories of Christian Benteke?
You know positive stuff?
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Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen
If Wes and Naz lost their fortune like the Leicester owner did, or if they turned into Randy Lerner overnight and if we didn’t happen to be the only potential huge club outside of London and the North West.
But if is doing some heavy lifting.
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Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen
I am in no way a happy clapper, am definitely more at the cynical / half empty end of the scale, but honestly, where to even start with lines like this?
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It's fake anger. Ignore him.
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I mean relegation
Not likely is it? Look about whose dropped over the last 10 plus years. Its all just regression to mean. Why were promoted, as we've spent 100+ years at the thick end for a reason.
Leicester, Leeds, Swansea- all going back to where they've spent the bulk of their existence. Same will happen to Brighton, Brentford. Might take a few years but it's the way it goes.
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I mean relegation
Think of the positives.
You’ll get midweek Euro games off
Cheaper season tickets
Plenty of capacity, you might not need a ST.
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It's fake anger. Ignore him.
I'd love for him and FV to go for chips and drinks together.
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I got an email through, offering me:
"The Terrace View: Your chance to secure your place
Thank you for patiently waiting on our season ticket waiting list.
We're delighted to inform you that you now have a chance to buy a place in our new area, The Terrace View, for the 23/24 season for Fan ID xxxxx"
I must admit, I thought it was a wind-up - as if a tout was saying "Pssst - mate, your 25,000th-odd in the queue, if you gizz us just over a grand, I can get you into every fackin' game there, with pukka views and free beer".
I felt dirty. I'll soon have a mortgage for the first time in my life but if that wasn't the case, I don't think I'd even consider it due to the sheer brazenness of the club.
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I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.
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I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.
You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic. Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it. Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte. I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be.
It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea. Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.
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I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.
You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic. Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it. Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte. I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be.
It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea. Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.
it was the result of the survey they did:
Do you want better wifi, catering and bar facilities?
Would you like somewhere to sit down before and after the match?
Do you want shorter queues at half-time?
Do you want to pay £25 a match for it?*
*One of these questions may not have been asked.
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I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.
You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic. Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it. Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte. I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be.
It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea. Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.
I think you are both spot on in your comments, and this could really dilute the Holte atmosphere. When I logged on to get my Everton ticket last week there wasn’t a single ticket in the upper Holte, my preferred part of the ground. Serves me right for not forking out £1500 for the terrace view experience.
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For every corporate area they shoehorn in , a few decibels of atmosphere will be lost . They need to be careful , or perhaps they don't care
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Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen
I am clinically depressed, I come from Birmingham so I’m a natural pessimist, l am currently experiencing a bad run of random bad stuff happening to me, my son has put numerous ‘hilarious’ autocorrects on my phone, such as my name turning into idiot, but I am still not as miserable or cynical as this bloke is on an average day.
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Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.
The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.
We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.
Football for the working class
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Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.
The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.
We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.
Football for the working class
This issue is, you’re so insufferably negative on a daily basis that it’s as if you want us to do badly and not progress as a club.
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Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.
The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.
We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.
Football for the working class
This issue is, you’re so insufferably negative on a daily basis that it’s as if you want us to do badly and not progress as a club.
Was going to comment but haven't got the energy anymore
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Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.
The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.
We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.
Football for the working class
In all the diatribe there are some points I can sometimes agree with, but as another poster has said, the constant negativity is just draining.
And what do you actually mean by the working class?? Do you mean the diverse liw income communities living round by Villa Park who have never gone to the football, or felt able to? I tend to think your romanticising a version of white working class culture that largely doesn’t exist anymore.
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every day people or families on normal/average incomes especially families , imagine the cost for a family of 4 /5 . It's becoming out of reach for many.
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Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.
The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.
We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.
Football for the working class
I’m working class and you in no way represent me.
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Your problem, Fin5tone, is that you're like the boy who cried wolf.
You moan on and on making the same point on the same issues for so long, that people just stop listening to you.
Then one day, you make a valid point but guess what, nobody cares because it's diluted by the ongoing 24/7 whine-fest you insist on,
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Where i sit if i took the Mrs and 2 of the kids i'd be looking at £272 for a Cat A game plus all the other expenses
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The club want the one off day trippers who spend more money than ‘we’ do all season. The type who rock up once a year as a family of four, all buy a shirt, get in the stadium when the doors open and buy the food.
We take the PL for granted and dont see it as the global phenomenon that it is. Its bucket list for lots of people globally.
I do the same when I watch my NFL team in the US. The regulars drink their own beer and grill burgers in the car park, I buy £15 beers in the stadium and spend hundreds in the club shop.
Get used to it and if you have a season ticket, keep hold of it, it’s only going to get worse as the overseas market requires our seats at a price we won’t or can’t pay.
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the owners are making up for the no-shows during covid
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Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen
Happened over a course of years and with no investment in players compared to what was leaving. Not a bad season. You talk shit.
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The club want the one off day trippers who spend more money than ‘we’ do all season. The type who rock up once a year as a family of four, all buy a shirt, get in the stadium when the doors open and buy the food.
We take the PL for granted and dont see it as the global phenomenon that it is. Its bucket list for lots of people globally.
I do the same when I watch my NFL team in the US. The regulars drink their own beer and grill burgers in the car park, I buy £15 beers in the stadium and spend hundreds in the club shop.
Get used to it and if you have a season ticket, keep hold of it, it’s only going to get worse as the overseas market requires our seats at a price we won’t or can’t pay.
I don't think it is about wanting a certain type of fan over another, it's about them maximising revenue, however they do it.
It is basic economics around scarcity, unfortunately - they have 30,000 people waiting in a queue for the right to give them several hundreds pounds in advance, to attend every league game.
They know they can whack the prices up, and they are.
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It is what it is , I only renewed this season because of Emery .
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What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United, then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.
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How much is it to go to the NFL ?
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What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United, then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.
100% agree Dave….as you say it’s obvious where we are heading, for me it’s exactly why there is next to zero investment put into concourses, toilet facilities etc…they want long term fans to give up going to bring in new wave….nothing to do with Barney Rubbles tedious working class diatribes…it’s about reducing those with expectations & history to attract more who are grateful to be allowed to attend.
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How much is it to go to the NFL ?
Depends who you follow. I follow the Packers who have a waiting list like us. The season ticket holders can sell their tickets in the market. Face value is around £100 but will typically sell for double or treble that.
I suspect that a lot of season tickets holders dont actually go anymore as they are elderly, but sell their tickets for vast profit. I would say when I visit up to a third of the crowd are ‘day trippers’ in a season ticket holders only crowd and when I went to see us play the Dallas Cowboys last season a large minority of the crowd was cowboys fans. A bit like how it would be if we could tout to Man U or Liverpool fans for several hundreds pound for our seats… people would take the money.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
That is effectively touting.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
That is effectively touting.
is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
That is effectively touting.
is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?
It doesn't really matter if it is illegal or not, the club get to decide how people can resell their product, and I entirely understand why they might not want to see people coining it in on tickets.
I don't see how it even benefits anyone but the person selling the seat - the scheme the club operate isn't perfect, there's obviously a 'take' in it for them and rules re when you can and can not do it, but it's better than the sort of toutery Viagogo engage in.
EDIT I just googled, and strictly speaking, it is illegal, yes.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
That is effectively touting.
is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?
There's a specific law covering touting at football.
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Thank you for clarifying, i just wondered the difference between the US and UK on reselling/touting football tickets
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Clearly they can't shift the super expensive seats as they are desperately hunting down anyone who's ever bought a ticket to buy a terrace view pass ,so your NFL comparison it's not the same. We are Villa not Man Utd and we do not have that type of support. I'd say half the waiting list just clicked a button for free to join and the other half aren't rich and would fancy a season ticket at the right price and if it suited.
A more realistic comparison... Tourists / fans are very likely to go camp nou spend loads in the club shop, buy lots of food and drink (not beer as it's banned) and go all out . This would not happen at let's say Valencia(our level of club) as there's just not the pull like the giant clubs get.
London clubs have an advantage because of tourism , Villa simply do not attract that fan and believe me it will show on the dark cold nights in January when we have a bigger stadium and like with our current stadium nobody can be arsed for a night game and we don't sell out we will end up with 10k empty seats.
DON'T TAKE US FOR GRANTED
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A little ray if sunshine.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
with viagogo you need an account / credit card address etc ?
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
with viagogo you need an account / credit card address etc ?
That's what ive said .
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
with viagogo you need an account / credit card address etc ?
That's what ive said .
ok what i was saying though that villa dont allow this anymore , the only resale is back via the club at face value less the cut they want.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
More likely it's down to someone making a pound that doesn't go to the club.
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How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price
I think it's down to H&S . If I ticket is sold on officially it has a name & address assigned to that specific seat, incase of an emergency they know who should be sitting there .
If tickets are just given or sold to just random people they don't.
More likely it's down to someone making a pound that doesn't go to the club.
I don't think it is to be honest.
The government & football authorities always wanted ID cards for football fans , this is the next best thing .
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The government did, the authorities didn't, but they do like to have a marketing database and never underestimate the overwhelming belief of a football club that every pound their supporters possess is only on loan.
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The season before last, I couldn't make Liverpool so sold the tickets back to the club. They sold them to Liverpool fans...
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What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United, then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.
100% agree Dave….as you say it’s obvious where we are heading, for me it’s exactly why there is next to zero investment put into concourses, toilet facilities etc…they want long term fans to give up going to bring in new wave….nothing to do with Barney Rubbles tedious working class diatribes…it’s about reducing those with expectations & history to attract more who are grateful to be allowed to attend.
I think this stance is very melodramatic.
I'm annoyed by the terrace view as much as anyone. But ultimately I think the club just wants to increase revenue with a larger percentage of corporate seats. The main benefit of the North stand wont be the extra capacity, but how it allows them to shuffle seats and create more corporate space. Those in the 1888 seats are on borrowed time as will those around them soon enough.
But I think the last thing the club wants is for long term supporters to give up going, but they do want to squeeze us where they can.
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As for club resale of tickets, it mostly works well. Yes I get that the club can resell at full match ticket value, but the whole point of a season ticket is you get a discount for buying in bulk. It doesn't make any sense that you could simply sell these back to the club at the price you paid as that is having your cake and eating it. In theory you could then attend half the games at ST prices and sell the rest back at no loss.
It's irrelevant what the club can sell them for, it's reasonable that the sell back price is what you paid less an admin fee. That admin fee is probably less than you are saving from the non season ticket price for each Cat 1 game.
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What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United, then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.
100% agree Dave….as you say it’s obvious where we are heading, for me it’s exactly why there is next to zero investment put into concourses, toilet facilities etc…they want long term fans to give up going to bring in new wave….nothing to do with Barney Rubbles tedious working class diatribes…it’s about reducing those with expectations & history to attract more who are grateful to be allowed to attend.
I think this stance is very melodramatic.
I'm annoyed by the terrace view as much as anyone. But ultimately I think the club just wants to increase revenue with a larger percentage of corporate seats. The main benefit of the North stand wont be the extra capacity, but how it allows them to shuffle seats and create more corporate space. Those in the 1888 seats are on borrowed time as will those around them soon enough.
But I think the last thing the club wants is for long term supporters to give up going, but they do want to squeeze us where they can.
yes, I'm with you on this. I'm guessing the club want to balance corporate / high-wealth customers with the need to retain the loyalty and vocal-visual support of its traditional fanbase. It's about blending income streams and remaining part of the community
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Whatever they do, just don't do it on the Holte. It's as simple as that for me. One of the reasons cited for the popularity of football in this country is the atmosphere generated by the fans and while the rest of our place can make a right old din at times of high drama, the atmosphere has always started from our own "end". Grounds that have lost this have lost a lot of identity and character, look at Chelsea, Woolwich, Stockport City (I was surprised to see that the home end at their place is the Family Stand, which explains a lot) West Ham etc.
Now you still have the Kop at Liverpool and The Holte, the Trent End at Forest, the Kop at Sheff Utd. All distinct from the rest of the ground and the home of the most vociferous and vocal fans. To be fair to Spurs, they have tried to emulate an end at their new place but I can't tell you what it's called.
Hopefully the Terrace View will be quietly dropped, perhaps the new area can just be a "lounge" now that the work has been carried out, sold on a match by match basis to existing ticket holders at a reasonable rate where friends might purchase for a birthday or stag do or some such, and any links to a seat or away tickets done away with.
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I agree with you Nev. It feels to me like too many people have too much invested to back down on the Terrace View, but it's clearly a disaster. And that's before the complaints start rolling in when the remaining 80% start to realise they've lost half their facilities and the queue for the toilet and bar is now twice as long.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
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According to the blurb It holds roughly 1000 and when I looked there were about 300 places left. “Disaster” is strong but the take up has been… not great?
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
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If it doesn't get at least 80% take up it's a disaster. I don't yet know what the take up is but it appears they are sounding desperate to shift these tickets. Any way of finding out how many have been sold to date?
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700 people paying loads more than they did before won't at all be considered a disaster by them. I imagine they'll all be sold by the time the season kicks off.
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I'll also add... assuming we have some good cup runs it might be the push for some punters to guarantee their cup final ticket. A double queue jump.
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If it doesn't get at least 80% take up it's a disaster. I don't yet know what the take up is but it appears they are sounding desperate to shift these tickets. Any way of finding out how many have been sold to date?
292 seats left as of 10 seconds ago.
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If they really wanted to get rid of them I'm sure they would have sold well to people on the waiting list at the standard season ticket + bolt on price of (total approx £1,255) with people retaining their place on the ST waiting list. The greed of pushing for another £300 + locking people in by taking them off the waiting list is what has blown this.
People paying £1,560 quid will want to be able to pick their seats in the best location in the upper Holte. Not be told it could be a random seat anywhere including the rail seating.
Of course, this option will come with the padded seats in the next few seasons.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
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In the meantime, Man U extend their Adidas deal for 10 years and it's worth £900m. I don't believe the Terrace View is the right way to go about things, but that is the sort of gap they have got to try and close. It will be interesting what the new guy thinks of this idea, or even if they are listening to complaints.
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i think it's pretty grotesque to introduce what is nothing more than a tiering system into The Holte End - the very heartbeat of the fanbase and the club.
The haves and the have nots . You can have a pint quickly , you on the other hand can join a queue on 38 mins of the first half and get your pint just after the 2nd half kicks off . You Sir can have wonderful wifi connectivity - you can have no signal . Etc etc . It stinks . All wrapped up under a veil of we consulted the fans and are giving you what you want.
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If it doesn't get at least 80% take up it's a disaster. I don't yet know what the take up is but it appears they are sounding desperate to shift these tickets. Any way of finding out how many have been sold to date?
292 seats left as of 10 seconds ago.
That's not very good. Can't see them getting anywhere near 80% at this rate. If we have a cracking start to the season it might push a few more.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
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Whatever they do, just don't do it on the Holte. It's as simple as that for me. One of the reasons cited for the popularity of football in this country is the atmosphere generated by the fans and while the rest of our place can make a right old din at times of high drama, the atmosphere has always started from our own "end". Grounds that have lost this have lost a lot of identity and character, look at Chelsea, Woolwich, Stockport City (I was surprised to see that the home end at their place is the Family Stand, which explains a lot) West Ham etc.
Now you still have the Kop at Liverpool and The Holte, the Trent End at Forest, the Kop at Sheff Utd. All distinct from the rest of the ground and the home of the most vociferous and vocal fans. To be fair to Spurs, they have tried to emulate an end at their new place but I can't tell you what it's called.
Hopefully the Terrace View will be quietly dropped, perhaps the new area can just be a "lounge" now that the work has been carried out, sold on a match by match basis to existing ticket holders at a reasonable rate where friends might purchase for a birthday or stag do or some such, and any links to a seat or away tickets done away with.
Seems a sensible Idea,if it's reasonably priced people will attend,I normally don't drink down the match but like going into the Holte suite at half time but with only having 20 minutes to have a drink, it's a problem and although I don't eat I seen people leaving the food because of its quality and complaining, time it right and people will spend money regardless,as I mentioned before Herbert's Yard in Longbridge to me is overpriced but it's always packed out especially weekends., it's a different generation now especially with parents with family,long gone are the days when we don't mind having a beer and that's it
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
Might be because of the ...annual income box in the survey he ticked.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
Might be because of the ...annual income box in the survey he ticked.
Could be. He's retired with a tidy pension but what he would put as income on such a form I've no idea.
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Wasn't the original premise that it was for existing ST holders to purchase to enhance their matchday experience? Adding the inducements that they have would say that they misread the market.
Either way the genie is now out of the bottle and in the name of progress the Holte will never be the same again.
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There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.
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There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.
Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?
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There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.
Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?
If you mean at queue-jumping rates then a few on here seem to have turned it down on principle. We have a choice - accept the Americanisation of football or walk away. Violence, bad conditions, police brutality and Billy McNeill didn't manage it but forty thousand passive consumers clapping along to Hi Ho Silver Lining looks like it might.
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My mate Andy is circa 3000 on the list and has not had the invite. I'm a current ST holder and had the invite ? seems odd
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There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.
Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?
If you mean at queue-jumping rates then a few on here seem to have turned it down on principle. We have a choice - accept the Americanisation of football or walk away. Violence, bad conditions, police brutality and Billy McNeill didn't manage it but forty thousand passive consumers clapping along to Hi Ho Silver Lining looks like it might.
But that misses the point that thousands will still accept a normal season ticket when offered. And while they still do, they'll carry on as before.
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I was drinking with a ST holder on the morning of the Wolfs game away from home. He'd been called the day before about TV and the person from the Club that is wasn't popular at all. He could easily afford it but turned it down. He attends with some of his family, who were not in the same financial position so saw no point in buying access to somewhere they couldn't.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
Again, you do not know that.
They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.
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I was drinking with a ST holder on the morning of the Wolfs game away from home. He'd been called the day before about TV and the person from the Club that is wasn't popular at all. He could easily afford it but turned it down. He attends with some of his family, who were not in the same financial position so saw no point in buying access to somewhere they couldn't.
I think that's a massive point. For many people going down the match is as much a social event as a sporting one and if you're effectively spending two hours on your own you might reconsider.
As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.
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As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.
We've got some of the best owners in the game, but even so we're all just walking wallets to be relieved of our hard earned. And it's different to any other industry in the world, and they almost cannot lose. You could have a trendy new restaurant with a 6 month wait for a table, but if you got in and the food and service were shit, you wouldn't go back. With football, we'll all be there, come what may. And if a few take a moral stand and don't, well in this new world they won't be missed by the powers that be, at all.
Just wait till the winners of the Premier League Summer Series start to get a place in Europe...
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A mate of mine is on the waiting list and he hasn't seen an email either and he said no straight away when I asked him if would have taken it up.
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I'm circa 11,000 on the waiting list and got offered a Villa Terrace seat on the 17th July. Won't be taking it up.
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As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.
Just wait till the winners of the Premier League Summer Series start to get a place in Europe...
Didn't Chelsea win it ?
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
Again, you do not know that.
They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.
Right, and what sophisticated tool have they used to approach my 17 year old daughter but randomly not someone at 5,000 on the list?
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I (obviously) didn't mean this year.
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I (obviously) didn't mean this year.
you got me excited then, i thought Chelsea had blown that 2 goal lead
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Maybe they have approached people based on postcode ?
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Maybe they've looked at how many games people attend. And waiting list place. And how engaged people are.
I've been tempted. But the cost of travelling etc as well as the time have put me off. The clincher is loss of regular season ticket waiting list position.
The other thing is living where I do, it's just awkward; if I lived in Birmingham then I'd perhaps think somewhat differently.
This is corporate-light.
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291 left now. I'm about 6,000 on the waiting list, received the invite e-mail on 17 Jul.
I've just been in and added a seat to see what the process is.
The same as buying a normal ticket, go to seating area, select an available seat, add to basket, proceed to checkout, pay £1560 by card.
I didn't buy one, mainly because it's a rip off, but also the principle.
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Maybe they have approached people based on postcode ?
I'm not sure why we're doing somersaults to work out some convoluted process. It seems like the majority of people on the waiting list have received an invite. I can't see them deliberately excluding some when the are desperate to sell. Of course it's possible technology is at fault, one side or other.
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As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.
We've got some of the best owners in the game, but even so we're all just walking wallets to be relieved of our hard earned. And it's different to any other industry in the world, and they almost cannot lose. You could have a trendy new restaurant with a 6 month wait for a table, but if you got in and the food and service were shit, you wouldn't go back. With football, we'll all be there, come what may. And if a few take a moral stand and don't, well in this new world they won't be missed by the powers that be, at all.
Just wait till the winners of the Premier League Summer Series start to get a place in Europe...
And to repeat what I've said so often that the words should type themselves - the way in which the Premier League has persuaded customers that it's their duty to hand over every last penny is the greatest marketing job of the 21st century. It's not only your duty to be a customer, you have to be the right kind of customer. Never complain, always tell the company how wonderful they are and if you receive poor service other customers will tell you it's your own fault.
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Apparently, tickets are now being sent out;
https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1686006308615372801?s=20 (https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1686006308615372801?s=20)
There's a tracker too.
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
Again, you do not know that.
They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.
Right, and what sophisticated tool have they used to approach my 17 year old daughter but randomly not someone at 5,000 on the list?
I have no idea, i am just pointing out that we absolutely do not know that they've worked all the way through the 30,000 on the waiting list, and we do not know that it is "clearly a disaster".
If it was that much of a disaster they'd probably yank the scheme - like they did with the badge, despite that being even more high profile.
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Tracker link;
https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/ (https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/)
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Tracker link;
https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/ (https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/)
Thanks. It's given me a date of July 29th 10:15:19 AM.
Is that the dispatch date and time?
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Tracker link;
https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/ (https://astonvilla.packtracker.cedarpackaging.com/)
Thanks. It's given me a date of July 29th 10:15:19 AM.
Is that the dispatch date and time?
Mine says something like that too, but DATA RECEIVED or something, so I assumed that was when Villa sent over my details to the company and it hasn't been despatched yet.
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Mine's been despatched today by the look of it. That was tremendous fun.
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Track my Pack
DATA RECEIVED Jul 29, 2023, 11:51:49 AM
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
Me and the babby must have missed ours too then.
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This absolutely proves my point. If they can't muster up 1,000 from the 30k on the waiting list what hope have they got
I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
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This absolutely proves my point. If they can't muster up 1,000 from the 30k on the waiting list what hope have they got
I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
I get that you’re incredulous about this but an act of evil? Really? Come on now!
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This absolutely proves my point. If they can't muster up 1,000 from the 30k on the waiting list what hope have they got
I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
Are you sure? I mean I've never heard this from you before so I'm a bit concerned that you're not well?
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This absolutely proves my point. If they can't muster up 1,000 from the 30k on the waiting list what hope have they got
I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
Act of evil :-) what a ludicrous statement, it’s tickets for games of football
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I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
Flin5tone has jumped the shark.
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Charging those prices and letting people 'jump the queue' if they buy a ridiculous terrace view package is pretty sickening
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Musk is the Space Karen, Flin5tone is the Villa Karen
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
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This absolutely proves my point. If they can't muster up 1,000 from the 30k on the waiting list what hope have they got
I'm glad the take up is poor , it's a disgrace and an act of evil
Nah. Taking your kid to his first game…..to the Sty. Now that’s an act of evil.
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Nobody is being forced to go .
But some are being forced out.
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Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a new bar, with a terrace that reaches to the heavens, or at least the middle of The Holte, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole of Villa Park.”
But the Lord Heck came down to see the stadium and the terrace the people were building. The Lord Heck said, “If as one people queuing on the same waiting list they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their waiting list so they will not usurp each other for away tickets.”
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
Fucking hell.
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
You'll do for me son , Bronx hat is in the post.
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
You'll do for me son , Bronx hat is in the post.
Ha ha ha, excellent!
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Jesus wept.
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Jesus wept.
Which verse and book is that?
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How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.
Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.
Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.
At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.
Yes, I'd call that a disaster.
“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.
Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.
My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.
He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.
Again, you do not know that.
They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.
That’ll be why my 9 year old nephew got an invitation sent straight to the email address which I only set up for his Villa cubs membership. I haven’t heard anything &my ST is in The Lower Holte so I don’t know who they think is going to take him for his free pints!.
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Someone has really cocked up on that terrace view. There's been an agreement at commercial level, that a 1,000 out of 30,000 people would fork out, regardless of how much they fleeced them for. They got it badly wrong.
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Someone has really cocked up on that terrace view. There's been an agreement at commercial level, that a 1,000 out of 30,000 people would fork out, regardless of how much they fleeced them for. They got it badly wrong.
looks like they got 70% uptake so far so they (the suits) may see it as a good start ?
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Have they had that uptake, though? I know in the FAQs it says that they're looking at getting a thousand, but I've no idea if they've gone for that figure in one initial push. Have they actually sold 700?
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Does anyone actually know how many they've sold?
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Jesus wept.
Which verse and book is that?
John 11:35; the shortest verse in the bible.
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Does anyone actually know how many they've sold?
it was mentioned in here earlier , if you go to book one of the seats you can see how many are left out of the 1,000 and its about 300
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From the London Lions chat it appears that a good number of us received the invite too. But the cost and the added disincentive of losing your place in the queue means that I don’t know a single person who has taken it up.
I haven’t had a season ticket since I moved away in the 80s. I reckon that international travel for work means I miss 2-3 home games a season and midweek games take away another 2-3 ( at least). Add in a rogue wedding or other ding dong and I rarely get beyond 12 home games. A Terrace View ticket would work out at £120 per game before I even look at train fares.
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Manchester United have agreed a 10-year extension to their partnership with Adidas worth a minimum of £900m.
United's new deal with the German kit manufacturer runs until June 2035, with their previous 10-year deal having been worth £750m.
It is thought to be the largest kit deal in Premier League history, based on revenue per season.
Chelsea signed a £900m deal with Nike in 2016 but that covered a 15-year period from 2017.
"The relationship between Manchester United and Adidas is one of the most iconic in world sport," said United's chief executive Richard Arnold.
"With its roots in the 1980s, our partnership has been reinvented over the past decade with some of the most innovative designs and technology in sportswear."
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The two parties' latest partnership began at the start of the 2015-16 season, with Adidas having previously supplied United's kit from 1980-1992.
American owners, the Glazer family, are still in talks over selling United, who said that the new deal has "a minimum cash guarantee of £900m, subject to certain adjustments".
According to United's latest annual report, the original agreement with Adidas links a part of the yearly payments to the club's participation in the Champions League.
Failure to play in the Champions League for two consecutive seasons would reduce annual payments by 30%.
The three-time winners will return to Europe's premier club competition this season having failed to qualify for 2022-23.
Despite not playing in the Champions League last season, United said last month that the club is heading for record revenues..
Stronger matchday and commercial revenue saw United revise their annual forecast from between £590m and £610m to between £630m and £640m, which would eclipse their previous best of £627.1m in 2019.
The Glazer family indicated they were ready to sell the club last November but a takeover has yet to be completed, amid rumours some of the family are keen to retain an interest.
United still have large debts - in excess of £950m in total - including outstanding transfer fee payments of more than £160m.
The club added that the new kit deal will increase the focus on United's women's team since its reintroduction in 2018.
Adidas chief executive Bjorn Gulden said: "Adidas and Manchester United are two of the most important brands in international football and it is very natural for us to continue our co-operation."
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That’ll be why my 9 year old nephew got an invitation sent straight to the email address which I only set up for his Villa cubs membership. I haven’t heard anything &my ST is in The Lower Holte so I don’t know who they think is going to take him for his free pints!.
Auntie Jane.
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Not seen this previously, from the OS Terrace View page.
What a load of duplicitous bullshit. As if anyone genuinely suggested this was how to solve the food and drink problem.
Having surveyed current Holte End season ticket holders for their thoughts on how we can further develop our iconic stand, we've launched The Terrace View – an investment in our fan and stadium experience - to meet the requirements most important to you based on supporters’ feedback
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Not seen this previously, from the OS Terrace View page.
What a load of duplicitous bullshit. As if anyone genuinely suggested this was how to solve the food and drink problem.
Having surveyed current Holte End season ticket holders for their thoughts on how we can further develop our iconic stand, we've launched The Terrace View – an investment in our fan and stadium experience - to meet the requirements most important to you based on supporters’ feedback
That's what I tried to get across the other day (obviously badly) they've spun it to make it look like the fans asked for £1600 seats in the Holte. Arguably more annoying than the concept itself.
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
You'll do for me son , Bronx hat is in the post.
Ha ha ha, excellent!
Don't geddit, can you explain please as I have a feeling it's very funny.
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11.15. Wherefore take Heed and Warch over yourselves, and one over a|nother; lest being overcharged with Sur|feiting and Drunkenness; the great Day of the Lord overtake you unawares and Page 29unprepared. For ye are not in Darkness, that that Day shall overtake you as a Thief.
You'll do for me son , Bronx hat is in the post.
Ha ha ha, excellent!
Don't geddit, can you explain please as I have a feeling it's very funny.
It was a BRMB Friday/Saturday Night phone in thing from yesteryear, 30+ years ago I’d say. Tom Ross was the host dishing them out and they were given out if a good point or discussion had been made. It always ascended into idiocy with people saying something banal and then demanding said Bronx hat. The idea must have been to raise the level of debate from “Alright Tom, Blues fan here, Villa are rubbish, how d’ya think the Blues will get on tomorrow? Can I have a Bronx hat?”
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Ah, OK, cheers!
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I’ve always wanted to ask this but what the actual fuck is a Bronx Hat?
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A forerunner of today's beanie. Or basically the same thing.
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Think Benny from Crossroads hat in club colours
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They were cheap beanie hats that Tom Ross got a job lot of in Villa/small heath/baggies colours with an XtraAM or Capital Gold logo on it.
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Thanks everyone. I was envisaging some sort of Cowboy Hat.
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I think the only Cowboy hat seen in the Bronx was on Jon Voight's head in Midnight Cowboy
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Anyone else have a mid eighties chicken hat?
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I remember this from my days as a nipper, so it definitely wasn't just 30 years ago, a lot more recent than that.
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They were cheap beanie hats that Tom Ross got a job lot of in Villa/small heath/baggies colours with an XtraAM or Capital Gold logo on it.
BRMB surely?
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Im pretty sure there was more than one version, but yep to the BRMB version too.
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
1943 is the last train back to New Street. Game should finish 1920-25 ish. Could make it, if you get your skates on (subject to the new ruling re. added time).
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
1943 is the last train back to New Street. Game should finish 1920-25 ish. Could make it, if you get your skates on (subject to the new ruling re. added time).
Simple, when we go 3-0 up in the 79th minute, head for the station.
Out of interest how did you manage to bag a ticket ? I'd have assumed they'd be snapped up immediately or handed over to Terrace View members ?
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
1943 is the last train back to New Street. Game should finish 1920-25 ish. Could make it, if you get your skates on (subject to the new ruling re. added time).
Simple, when we go 3-0 up in the 79th minute, head for the station.
Out of interest how did you manage to bag a ticket ? I'd have assumed they'd be snapped up immediately or handed over to Terrace View members ?
There were a few remaining tickets that made it to general sale to season ticket holders at 5pm tonight. They got snapped up within about 3 seconds, but kept refreshing for a few minutes to snag one that didn’t go through the sale process. First time I’ve ever managed it tbh! Normally can only get one off mates that can’t make it or something.
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
1943 is the last train back to New Street. Game should finish 1920-25 ish. Could make it, if you get your skates on (subject to the new ruling re. added time).
Simple, when we go 3-0 up in the 79th minute, head for the station.
Out of interest how did you manage to bag a ticket ? I'd have assumed they'd be snapped up immediately or handed over to Terrace View members ?
There were a few remaining tickets that made it to general sale to season ticket holders at 5pm tonight. They got snapped up within about 3 seconds, but kept refreshing for a few minutes to snag one that didn’t go through the sale process. First time I’ve ever managed it tbh! Normally can only get one off mates that can’t make it or something.
Fair play, i guess a lot of people will be on holiday so a rare bonus i expect . Enjoy !
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They have given numbers of people who meet each stage if the criteria and it will be the same for Burnley away which goes on sale next week. It’s basically a 5pm online lottery for the last few tickets. Worth a try.
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Extremely interesting that away games are now making effectively general sale.
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Which away game has made general sale? Newcastle reached season ticket holders and sold out before the minute they went on sale was up, foiling my plans to get my son a ticket. This was unlike last year when it reached season ticket holders but survived long enough past the hour for me to leisurely choose his seat and purchase it.
Time to have another Monster, count the paint chippings and quote some Leviathan.
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It is good news that season ticket holders may get the chance to get an away ticket
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Extremely interesting that away games are now making effectively general sale.
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Highly interesting that you try to find a negative spin on something.
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Nothing negative about it, just shows that there may be some 'drop off' from those who went away last season.
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Nothing negative about it, just shows that there may be some 'drop off' from those who went away last season.
Last season I got tickets to Newcastle away as a season ticket only (no away history). Yesterday not a chance. Gone in 20 seconds
I got tickets to Brighton as well. Again I doubt I will get those when they come to no history season tickets
So, no there’s no drop off
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It's like having Nigel Farage on here sometimes.
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Nothing negative about it, just shows that there may be some 'drop off' from those who went away last season.
In what way? That it was harder to get Newcastle away tickets as season ticket holders this year than it was last would suggest demand has increased, particularly as this game is televised.
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Are all the away tickets at Newcastle in the safe standing area?
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Can you imagine what he would be like if he supported a team with a ground falling down that has spent almost a decade just avoiding relegation with absentee owners chronic financial problems and a dwindling fan base oh wait…….
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I got 4 tickets last year, none this.
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Like Sid said, even if they do go to General Sale from time to time, that gives an opportunity to those who wouldn't normally be able to get one. Karen Flintstone has managed to turn a negative into a positive.
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For the first time in forever, I've just managed to snag one of the last remaining away tickets for Newcastle next week... and then realised it's the fecking late kickoff and my brother is getting married in Bristol the following day. FFS!
With that kickoff time, I'm guessing there are no trains back to Birmingham (post-final whistle) that evening either?
If I were you I'd get booked on a supporters coach. You will be home late but at least you will get to Bristol easily enough on the Sunday.
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easyjet fly from Newcastle to Bristol
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Season ticket has arrived - seems as though it is just for 1 season as it says 2023 - 2024 on the front of it
I wonder if for the following season we are going to be given a choice of using a season card or an app on your phone to gain entry to the ground
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Season ticket has arrived - seems as though it is just for 1 season as it says 2023 - 2024 on the front of it
I wonder if for the following season we are going to be given a choice of using a season card or an app on your phone to gain entry to the ground
I’m thinking they may introduce something more sophisticated that confirms who you are to stop people passing their season ticket on to others.
Separately, I joined the home cup scheme this year, thinking it would be more convenient given there would likely be a few European games at least. However, I don’t think they’re going to be £10-£20 having seen the match day prices recently so am having second thoughts. Does anyone know if you can opt out online or is it a call to the ticket office? I couldn’t find the option - thanks.
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No idea about opting out . Probably be penalised for opting out in a few years like ManUre used to do by banning fans who opted out for the next league game
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Membership pack arrived with my water bottle! Just in time for the wettest summer day in years, so back in the cupboard looking for my coffee cup!
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Membership pack arrived with my water bottle! Just in time for the wettest summer day in years, so back in the cupboard looking for my coffee cup!
is that with a season ticket ?
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Out of interest , has anybody made ANY use of last season's pack? I won't ever throw anything Villa away , even if it's stupid ,to the annoyance of Wilma. I found the oversized badge unwearable and poor design, the keyring again far too big , the best item was the high quality pen which has been used . I'd still prefer my season ticket £5 less though rather than more clutter
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I've got about 8 of the Villa metal water bottles. The kids use them at school with their packed lunches.
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It's like having Nigel Farage on here sometimes.
Please don't compare me to Nigel, I'm all for freedom of opinion and speech and the way the banks treated him recently was a disgrace BUT I'm totally opposed to most of his views, Brexit and I'm staunch Labour.
Keep the red flag flying high!
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Membership pack arrived with my water bottle! Just in time for the wettest summer day in years, so back in the cupboard looking for my coffee cup!
is that with a season ticket ?
It’s with the Claret membership. I have a season ticket and some weird top up memebwrshio that I don’t remember subscribing to & I got a Villa cubs pack - drawstring bag, stickers, Villa Rubin cube key ring. My husband is a claret member and he got the water bottle - which I have to say I really like!
In answer to Fred - I also only used the pen but when your ST is upwards of £600 then a £5 is neither here nor there and I’m always unreasonably happy with some random Villa tat!
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Something useful like a pin badge you'd actually wear without 'part of the pride ' 'fight like lions' emblazoned all over it would be nice .
A free pint on the first home game , would be a nice touch but they probably know the catering couldn't cope .
I wonder if the Terrace View subscribers will get 'I'm with stupid ' T- Shirts
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I remember the halcyon days of that weird military music DVD thing.
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I feel that with the huge increases to our season tickets, my only protest is not signing up for the cup scheme. After all, all the conference league matches will be on tv and, not willing to pay for mix and match teams we will put out for the domestic cups.
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It'll be very interesting how they club price conference games , with them all on TV the uptake for the early stages could be poor unless they get the price right.
If I remember rightly in the Lerner era the club done 'packages' for the group games. I think that would be a good idea. 3 Home games for £50 would be acceptable
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I remember the halcyon days of that weird military music DVD thing.
To a 0-0 with Wigan.
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I see the ST cards and letters are arriving. Letterhead - old crest Lion facing West. ST card new crest Lion facing East .
Magnificent
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I see the ST cards and letters are arriving. Letterhead - old crest Lion facing West. ST card new crest Lion facing East .
Magnificent
What if you turn 180 degrees round and open it again?
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When I click on the tracking link which takes me to royal mail it says 'oops'
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I've heard of that from others. I strongly suspect that your season ticket (the one you said you not renewed the other year) has been cancelled and given to somebody more middle class.
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Could be worse.
https://twitter.com/TheSpursExpress/status/1686744024156196864
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Relegate them now.
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Could be worse.
https://twitter.com/TheSpursExpress/status/1686744024156196864
Just when you thought Spurs as an entity couldn’t be any more hollow, shallow and annoying.
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Is the drum to make them sing that marching in rubbish a bit quicker?
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I see the ST cards and letters are arriving. Letterhead - old crest Lion facing West. ST card new crest Lion facing East .
Magnificent
Mine have just landed on the mat. I hoping that they are prioritising the well off folks and not just sending em out on alphabetical order.
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I see the ST cards and letters are arriving. Letterhead - old crest Lion facing West. ST card new crest Lion facing East .
Magnificent
Mine have just landed on the mat. I hoping that they are prioritising the well off folks and not just sending em out on alphabetical order.
They're made out of recycled Holte Enders who didn't own a 2nd home apparently. Tally ho!
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I see the ST cards and letters are arriving. Letterhead - old crest Lion facing West. ST card new crest Lion facing East .
Magnificent
Mine have just landed on the mat. I hoping that they are prioritising the well off folks and not just sending em out on alphabetical order.
yeah , landed gentry from the likes of Lichfield etc first followed by us lot in the slums
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
In the letter it says Due to an unforeseen issue in the supply chain, unfortunately your welcome pack is slightly delayed and will be sent out to you in August. All parties are working as fast as they can and we appreciate your patience.
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My estate manager tells me mine has been delivered to the East Lodge. I shall get a member of the indoor staff to collect it and then give him a damned good thrashing to keep him on his toes before I evict his aged mother from her tied cottage(although that is usually a lot more fun in the middle of winter).
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
hang on , not even the car sticker ?
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
hang on , not even the car sticker ?
No, the working class did not know what they were for so they stopped them.
A DISGRACE!
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
hang on , not even the car sticker ?
No, the working class did not know what they were for so they stopped them.
A DISGRACE!
No way I having a Villa sticker on the window of my Rolls Royce, people here in Stratford upon Avon don't take kindly to that sort of thing old chap
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I got mine today. No complimentary goodies this year though?
hang on , not even the car sticker ?
No, the working class did not know what they were for so they stopped them.
A DISGRACE!
No way I having a Villa sticker on the window of my Rolls Royce, people here in Stratford upon Avon don't take kindly to that sort of thing old chap
You only have one sir ??
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Last year's car sticker was massive. Far too big. Didn't affix.
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I see the letter with the season card mentions a welcome pack coming later in Aug.
I personally couldn't care less for a bunch of tat, but I know it's important to some people.
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One of the kids got villa sunglasses the one year. They were pretty cool til the dog got hold of them
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One of the kids got villa sunglasses the one year. They were pretty cool til the dog got hold of them
How awful, condolences, I am sure you'll miss the little critters. RIP.
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One of the kids got villa sunglasses the one year. They were pretty cool til the dog got hold of them
Does he look good in sunglasses?
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One of the kids got villa sunglasses the one year. They were pretty cool til the dog got hold of them
The kids or the glasses?
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HaHa the dog chewed them to bits (the sunglasses) ;D
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Turned up again.
Post. Nothing new. What a joke.
Multiple moans, trying to get a rise, right? Complete waste of time. Who needs this crap.
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By the way, my ST turned up today. One piece of paper and a flimsy bit of plastic.
I'm excited and happy. Really, really excited and happy. I will sit in the Holte with my eldest son and watch the Villa for another season. UTV. ;D
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
You knew this. Several people had already mentioned it. You'll get your box of tat later in the month.
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Your English teacher perhaps?
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Purslow would have overseen this one. Heck next season.
Fasten your seat belts
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Your English teacher perhaps?
And he said he wasn't bothered about a pack but he's moaning about it anyway. Even more reason to ignore.
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Your English teacher perhaps?
And he said he wasn't bothered about a pack but he's moaning about it anyway. Even more reason to ignore.
More disappointed that it was not delivered by Uri Emery personally ,I shall be having words (raging face)
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
is that the old Lions Club in the Witton ? i used to go in there pre KO and at HT . was decent for a pie and a pint
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I said I'd prefer a £5 discount on my season ticket other than the pack. If they are going to bother with packs at least have them ready to post out with the tickets. Bad for environment
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Wouldn’t have thought you’d find anything to complain about.
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
Are you like this in real life? Or just the internet?
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
is that the old Lions Club in the Witton ? i used to go in there pre KO and at HT . was decent for a pie and a pint
Probably.
I would have thought a better use for any spare space at all in the witton would have been to provide some additional toilets and maybe another catering outlet to try and get it a bit closer to minimum standard than the current corridor shitshow. I appreciate that doesn't really increase revenue though.
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
All my ST's arrived hand delivered by a club ticket office staff member. They were all in a bounded box decorated in claret and blue tinsel like material. A huge big boxes of Belgian chocolates and a bunch of red roses that I would swear were almost claret tied by a blue ribbon were also handed to me at the doorstep. What a wonderful club we support.
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
I'm intrigued to know your age Fred.... I imagine you as some kind of Brummie Victor Meldrew, the kind of bloke who puts a knife through footballs kicked over the fence by the neighbours' kids.
You really need to take a deep breath sometimes before you go near that keyboard, geezus! 🙄
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*in other news, still not had my season ticket delivered. Cannot wait - We are in for 19 days of Villa Park euphoria!
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
is that the old Lions Club in the Witton ? i used to go in there pre KO and at HT . was decent for a pie and a pint
Probably.
I would have thought a better use for any spare space at all in the witton would have been to provide some additional toilets and maybe another catering outlet to try and get it a bit closer to minimum standard than the current corridor shitshow. I appreciate that doesn't really increase revenue though.
Its kind of located in a weird place though halfway up between the lower and upper tier. So from the upper tier you go down 2 flights of stairs to get to the door. I can see them making it a corporate lounge soon and seats upgraded in the central blocks to go with it.
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
is that the old Lions Club in the Witton ? i used to go in there pre KO and at HT . was decent for a pie and a pint
Probably.
I would have thought a better use for any spare space at all in the witton would have been to provide some additional toilets and maybe another catering outlet to try and get it a bit closer to minimum standard than the current corridor shitshow. I appreciate that doesn't really increase revenue though.
Its kind of located in a weird place though halfway up between the lower and upper tier. So from the upper tier you go down 2 flights of stairs to get to the door. I can see them making it a corporate lounge soon and seats upgraded in the central blocks to go with it.
Yes looking at it the new price is £15 a game (no free pints) so broadly the same as the terrace view at £25.00 if you account for the beer. £15 quid for the chance to actually be able to buy a drink and go to the toilet when you've already paid nearly £800 for a season ticket or £50-£60 for a match ticket. Modern football eh?
I tend to switch to the Witton Upper if I'm taking a friend / family as I can never get anything in the Holte. But no chance of getting a drink or getting into the loo at half time. The concourse is beyond a joke. I'd love to get Hecks in there at half time during a game and ask him what he thinks of it.
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
is that the old Lions Club in the Witton ? i used to go in there pre KO and at HT . was decent for a pie and a pint
Probably.
I would have thought a better use for any spare space at all in the witton would have been to provide some additional toilets and maybe another catering outlet to try and get it a bit closer to minimum standard than the current corridor shitshow. I appreciate that doesn't really increase revenue though.
Its kind of located in a weird place though halfway up between the lower and upper tier. So from the upper tier you go down 2 flights of stairs to get to the door. I can see them making it a corporate lounge soon and seats upgraded in the central blocks to go with it.
Yes looking at it the new price is £15 a game (no free pints) so broadly the same as the terrace view at £25.00 if you account for the beer. £15 quid for the chance to actually be able to buy a drink and go to the toilet when you've already paid nearly £800 for a season ticket or £50-£60 for a match ticket. Modern football eh?
I tend to switch to the Witton Upper if I'm taking a friend / family as I can never get anything in the Holte. But no chance of getting a drink or getting into the loo at half time. The concourse is beyond a joke. I'd love to get Hecks in there at half time during a game and ask him what he thinks of it.
It's like when the ticket woman said at an SCG meeting that she'd been in the North Stand and the view was as good as the Holte.
"For a game?"
"Er, no. I'll have to go in there one day."
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
I'm intrigued to know your age Fred.... I imagine you as some kind of Brummie Victor Meldrew, the kind of bloke who puts a knife through footballs kicked over the fence by the neighbours' kids.
You really need to take a deep breath sometimes before you go near that keyboard, geezus! 🙄
I'm 47 next month
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I sit Witton Upper , i've given up with the concourse. I went down last season early on game on about the 40 min mark to get a drink and a pie . The 2nd half had kicked off by the time i got served.
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I sit Witton Upper , i've given up with the concourse. I went down last season early on game on about the 40 min mark to get a drink and a pie . The 2nd half had kicked off by the time i got served.
The thing is , nobody needs to eat or drink in the space of 90 minutes but we aren't living (or certainly paying )in the 1970s) A nice pie and pint / coffee is part of the day out for many and with what we charge for entry now you should be getting a solid service. Everything should be up to date and modern. You should not need to pay for this , it should be as standard
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
I'm intrigued to know your age Fred.... I imagine you as some kind of Brummie Victor Meldrew, the kind of bloke who puts a knife through footballs kicked over the fence by the neighbours' kids.
You really need to take a deep breath sometimes before you go near that keyboard, geezus! 🙄
I'm 47 next month
That’s a disgrace. If your parents had sex 10 years later you’d still be in your thirties.
This world has gone to the hell in a handcart.
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Arrived
Letter no 'pack' what a joke.
Multiple badges, and can't even get a pack right. Complete mess. Who's runs this crap?
I'm intrigued to know your age Fred.... I imagine you as some kind of Brummie Victor Meldrew, the kind of bloke who puts a knife through footballs kicked over the fence by the neighbours' kids.
You really need to take a deep breath sometimes before you go near that keyboard, geezus! 🙄
I'm 47 next month
That’s a disgrace. If your parents had sex 10 years later you’d still be in your thirties.
This world has gone to the hell in a handcart.
It probably took my father 10 years , my mother is from Finland , they are hard work
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Just had the Duke of Cambridge drop round my season ticket; has everyone else received an embroidered half/half Villa/Windsor scarf?
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Les Ross has just dropped mine off.
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I sit Witton Upper , i've given up with the concourse. I went down last season early on game on about the 40 min mark to get a drink and a pie . The 2nd half had kicked off by the time i got served.
The thing is , nobody needs to eat or drink in the space of 90 minutes but we aren't living (or certainly paying )in the 1970s) A nice pie and pint / coffee is part of the day out for many and with what we charge for entry now you should be getting a solid service. Everything should be up to date and modern. You should not need to pay for this , it should be as standard
Its better in the Holte since some of the innovations
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I've had mine delivered on the Gold State Coach, flanked by Yeomen of the Guard. It was handed over on a silver tray by a postillion, and I don't even have a season ticket.
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I've had mine delivered on the Gold State Coach, flanked by Yeomen of the Guard. It was handed over on a silver tray by a postillion, and I don't even have a season ticket.
How many fanzines did you manage to sell?
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I've no idea who dropped mine off, the (very replaceable) butler didn't make a note of them.
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Bob Warman, Gary Newbon and Spit the Dog are dropping mine round tomorrow
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Bob Warman, Gary Newbon and Spit the Dog are dropping mine round tomorrow
Warman won’t be there.
He’ll be out at his static round Oswestry way.
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Bob Warman, Gary Newbon and Spit the Dog are dropping mine round tomorrow
Warman won’t be there.
He’ll be out at his static round Oswestry way.
He described our local curry house as "the raj of rajas" he's quoted on the menu . Alongside a picture of Andy Gray who went there too (the Scottish one)
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My junior butler informed his boss, my senior butler, that mine had arrived while I holiday in my Mediterranean retreat.
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“Alright Tone” Butler posted mine before he got down on his prayer mat for the last time. (No stamp on it the cheapskate).
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*in other news, still not had my season ticket delivered. Cannot wait - We are in for 19 days of Villa Park euphoria!
Watch out for two peregrine falcons circling your house tomorrow. They will make 3 passes before landing in your back garden. One will be carrying your season ticket and the other a handwritten message from Unai personally thanking you for your support. One bird will have the shirt badge and the other club badge. It’s so lucky that we have two badges.
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Gordon Cowans delivered my season ticket. Well he looked up and launched it from 40 yards and it landed at my feet.
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My whippet collected it from the homing pigeon.
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Adult ticket for Mansfield fans going to Crewe is £27. In division 4.
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I was carried on a sedan chair by Wes, Nassef, Unai and Monchi from Chelmsley Wood to Windsor Castle where my season ticket was handed to me on a silver platter by Prince William, who offered me Kate for the night if I paid extra for the Terrace View. I declined but ruminated with regret that Meghan is on the outs.
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My membership card, and GPS-challenged lion embossed water bottle was to arrive by Foreign Office Special Diplomatic Courier but the motorbike carrying the package was seized and burnt on the A9 autoroute by Catalan farmers protesting about fruit imports from Morocco and Andalusia.
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
I've been in there a few times. Mick Dale used to host in there, do a quiz written by Rob Bishop and you'd get an ex player or two come in. It was alright actually. You'd get a pint quick enough and a pie. It's the sort of thing they should keep on and make it a reasonable price. Last I heard it was £50 for the season so it's a shame if its gone up. I got in via a draw using my reward points.
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Had mine delivered yesterday by a fellow H&V poster.
He wasn't happy at all. Something about it all being a disgrace.
I just shrugged my shoulders, said thanks and went back to my gardening project.
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Had mine delivered yesterday by a fellow H&V poster.
He wasn't happy at all. Something about it all being a disgrace.
I just shrugged my shoulders, said thanks and went back to my gardening project.
Has anyone had the season ticket delivered by Pat and his black and white cat yet?,now that what I call special treatment
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Had mine delivered yesterday by a fellow H&V poster.
He wasn't happy at all. Something about it all being a disgrace.
I just shrugged my shoulders, said thanks and went back to my gardening project.
Has anyone had the season ticket delivered by Pat and his black and white cat yet?,now that what I call special treatment
Moi snd the teenagers, remarkable really.
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Adult ticket for Mansfield fans going to Crewe is £27. In division 4.
ha ha amazing
Me and the kids are going to that match
my kids love aways and although we are season-ticket holders at VP we still can’t get tickets for too many away trips, so we go to see the Stags instead (it’s a long story)
And yes my ticket was £27
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My best mate at University was a Stags fan. Went to see a few of their home matches with him (second half of the 1980s), still keep an eye out for their results. I still hold the Spireites in a certain disdain, too.
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My best mate at University was a Stags fan. Went to see a few of their home matches with him (second half of the 1980s), still keep an eye out for their results. I still hold the Spireites in a certain disdain, too.
Good man
My first ever Villa game was against Mansfield at field mill 1972
1-1 Geoff Vowden
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Arrived 2nd class I forgot to add
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My best mate at University was a Stags fan. Went to see a few of their home matches with him (second half of the 1980s), still keep an eye out for their results. I still hold the Spireites in a certain disdain, too.
Good man
My first ever Villa game was against Mansfield at field mill 1972
1-1 Geoff Vowden
Another mate of ours was a Sunderland fan. I recall a group of us travelling down from Newcastle to go in the away end to see Stags v Sunderland on a midweek night. Jesus, that'll be over 35 years ago.
There's a lot to be said having an interest / going the the occasional match for a team you like which isn't your own.
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Arrived 2nd class I forgot to add
Isn't that more working class for you?
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
I've been in there a few times. Mick Dale used to host in there, do a quiz written by Rob Bishop and you'd get an ex player or two come in. It was alright actually. You'd get a pint quick enough and a pie. It's the sort of thing they should keep on and make it a reasonable price. Last I heard it was £50 for the season so it's a shame if its gone up. I got in via a draw using my reward points.
This is the sort of thing that's being eradicated - pay a couple of quid more to get a bit better service. It's similar yo how the corporates have gone from affordable as an occasional treat to unaccessible.
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Had mine delivered yesterday by a fellow H&V poster.
He wasn't happy at all. Something about it all being a disgrace.
I just shrugged my shoulders, said thanks and went back to my gardening project.
Has anyone had the season ticket delivered by Pat and his black and white cat yet?,now that what I call special treatment
Nah, the fecker was on strike…bloody working classes!
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My best mate at University was a Stags fan. Went to see a few of their home matches with him (second half of the 1980s), still keep an eye out for their results. I still hold the Spireites in a certain disdain, too.
Good man
My first ever Villa game was against Mansfield at field mill 1972
1-1 Geoff Vowden
Another mate of ours was a Sunderland fan. I recall a group of us travelling down from Newcastle to go in the away end to see Stags v Sunderland on a midweek night. Jesus, that'll be over 35 years ago.
There's a lot to be said having an interest / going the the occasional match for a team you like which isn't your own.
Sitting in the ice cream van stand watching Jordan Bowery that’s what you get for your £27
what’s not to like
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Some ST are being reported as arriving in presentation boxes with a pen and a key ring .
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Some ST are being reported as arriving in presentation boxes with a pen and a key ring .
Those will be to the bourgeoisie living in the shires.
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https://villatrust.org.uk/fans-dissatisfaction-on-ticketing/?fbclid=IwAR1L5r1ddlZcKx8tcwmNV7nmXAJcdhYBS9luSLrca7YnN2rOlu70ShEnO24
The way loyal fans are being treated is a disgrace . This really has gone too far.
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https://villatrust.org.uk/fans-dissatisfaction-on-ticketing/?fbclid=IwAR1L5r1ddlZcKx8tcwmNV7nmXAJcdhYBS9luSLrca7YnN2rOlu70ShEnO24
The way loyal fans are being treated is a disgrace . This really has gone too far.
I dont like the implication that there hasnt been any contact since the last statement they made.
Is there anything stopping the club continuing with all these crappy decisions on the ticketing side? I'm concerned that due to demand they can more or less do what they want and aside from complaining there isnt much we can do about it.
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In the first example, wouldn't the season ticket holder have some evidence of confirmation of purchase that he could produce? There must be something that's given rise to a belief of renewel that could be relied upon.
I would like to see them publish the evidence of away tickets, as I noted when the club provided Newcastle sales criteria, they showed the overall numbers who qualified with 19 aways. The total exceeded the capacity at Bournemouth, which cannot have been correct. I wonder of the additional 300 were Terrace View purchases?
I was making a query on a cup scheme issue the other day and rang the ticket office. Suggestion away tickets may be on a ballot for the Conference League rather than loyalty. Makes my teeth itch.
There should not be any short circuit to away tickets through an advanced hospitality package. They could open up the ballot to 5-10% of away seats (depending on how bug thr away end is) to give more of a shot than the 50 now.
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I'd like to think that when the club were told that credit wasn't being extended, their first act would have been to call the ticket holder up and ask for alternative payment. If they haven't communicated with him and offered him the chance to pay upfront, that's poor.
I wonder what the terms and conditions are for the credit option. Does the credit company have the right to terminate a sale agreement between the applicant and the club? Or do the conditions say that the club can cancel the sale immediately if credit is refused?
I'm paranoid about mine, I always check my email to ensure the confirmation, and I always check the website to make sure both mine and my mate's are showing up on my history.
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Many years ago I had a stand up row with Ray Fairfax in the ticket office (the old one in the North Stand) about a certain amount of away tickets going to corporate customers. It was in the days of getting your card stamped as you purchased in person, many grounds were restricting away fans due to redevelopments linked to the Taylor Report post Hillsborough. We got 650 at Old Trafford and around 400 at Blackburn I seem to recall so these were much sought after. Anyway, I made my point about who deserved and who didn't deserve to get tickets and to be fair to Ray, he did try to explain to a young, naïve and idealistic kid about the way the world works and said, without actually saying it, that money talks.
Thirty years on, nothing has changed.
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Just checked out my season ticket renewal confirmation email, and it states;
"Applying Online - When you click ‘Pay’ you will be taken to the V12 Retail Finance application form to complete your application for finance. You must complete your season ticket application, regardless of how you pay, within 45 minutes. If paying by finance, you will usually receive an immediate decision. You will be notified by email once you have signed the agreement and completed the application. Occasionally V12 will need to review your application in more detail. If this is longer than 45 minutes then you will need to start the ticket purchase from the beginning. If your application is declined, you will be able to log back in and purchase your season ticket using a credit/debit card."
So it sounds like he hasn't checked to see his application was approved and then the onus is on him to go back and renew with a card. I don't think this is a conspiracy where the club has asked the credit company to not send the email to Holte End Upper people who are declined so they can resell the seats at a higher price.
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On the supporter refused credit and not receiving notification of this and the terrace view conspiracy. One thing i would point out is that one of my roles in my job, is to manage my organisation’s direct debit payments from members and their are often lots of members who we haven’t been able to collect a payment, claim they have never had the notifications of this, even though there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn’t.
Aside from that, the way the Terrace View is being handled does stink to be honest, particularly being able to jump the que for away games amongst all the other issues.
I do think there is a problem with away game allocation. I completely understand the need for loyalty to those who follow Villa up and down the country every other week, but how do you break into that. Ive been a season ticket holder for donkeys, my kids too. My lads a teenager now and at an age when he wants to go to more away games with me, but its virtually impossible. Last year we went to Bolton and Man Utd in the league cup and then managed to get tickets to Spurs and Liverpool and friends couldn’t go, but obviously none of these go on our booking history. The ballot system is just too small.
Im getting on but my lad is the future in terms of home and away support for the club, so there needs to be a fairer way of allowing others some chance to break into the booking of away games. Maybe Ads idea of 5-10%, would be a better way, though i know he meant for euro cup away games.
The Terrace View and the whole way they are managing this process isn’t it.
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On the supporter refused credit and not receiving notification of this and the terrace view conspiracy. One thing i would point out is that one of my roles in my job, is to manage my organisation’s direct debit payments from members and their are often lots of members who we haven’t been able to collect a payment, claim they have never had the notifications of this, even though there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn’t.
Aside from that, the way the Terrace View is being handled does stink to be honest, particularly being able to jump the que for away games amongst all the other issues.
I do think there is a problem with away game allocation. I completely understand the need for loyalty to those who follow Villa up and down the country every other week, but how do you break into that. Ive been a season ticket holder for donkeys, my kids too. My lads a teenager now and at an age when he wants to go to more away games with me, but its virtually impossible. Last year we went to Bolton and Man Utd in the league cup and then managed to get tickets to Spurs and Liverpool and friends couldn’t go, but obviously none of these go on our booking history. The ballot system is just too small.
Im getting on but my lad is the future in terms of home and away support for the club, so there needs to be a fairer way of allowing others some chance to break into the booking of away games. Maybe Ads idea of 5-10%, would be a better way, though i know he meant for euro cup away games.
The Terrace View and the whole way they are managing this process isn’t it.
I agree with loyalty being rewarded but I don’t think anyone could argue with allocating 10% of away tickets through a ballot. It seems a sensible solution to me.
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For the first example, there is no 'Terrace View' area of seating. The Trust really should get its facts right before sending these statements.
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and I'd be the last person to defend the Terrace View, but aren't the away tickets coming from a corporate allocation that has always been there? Unless this allocation has been increased then nothing has changed other than the feeling that people are jumping waiting list queues, when really all they're doing is buying entry-level corporate tickets?
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It's a badly-written and anecdote-heavy statement. Saying that, there is clearly a lack of communication coming from the club and they could solve a lot of problems by answering some of the myths surrounding Terrace View - most notably whether it involves some form of preferential treatment with regards to away tickets.
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I contacted the Villa Ticket Support and was told to speak to Hospitality. The passing of the buck in such incidences would indicate a difficult answer to my question was required.
I cannot see how if the Terrace View was taking tickets from an existing pool of aways earmarked for hospitality already, that the 19 away criteria would be 300 more than can fit into Bournemouth's away end.
The idea that I'm now not guaranteed a ticket to Bournemouth away, despite a full card since Edward the Confessor was on the throne, gives me cause for anxiety.
Regarding the ballot, I meant for all away games. Likelihood is with Villa in Europe that you'll get a ticket regardless, as we've never been that well supported for the away games outside the big lads/lads/lads places like Prague and Hamburg.
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That Trust thing is so badly written, and as Woodhall said, it's very much "someone said this" rather than just itemising the complaints.
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It is. Drafting is a skilll, but then I suppose giving up your free time is too.
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I contacted the Villa Ticket Support and was told to speak to Hospitality. The passing of the buck in such incidences would indicate a difficult answer to my question was required.
I cannot see how if the Terrace View was taking tickets from an existing pool of aways earmarked for hospitality already, that the 19 away criteria would be 300 more than can fit into Bournemouth's away end.
The idea that I'm now not guaranteed a ticket to Bournemouth away, despite a full card since Edward the Confessor was on the throne, gives me cause for anxiety.
Regarding the ballot, I meant for all away games. Likelihood is with Villa in Europe that you'll get a ticket regardless, as we've never been that well supported for the away games outside the big lads/lads/lads places like Prague and Hamburg.
It's a different world now, though. You can get to just about anywhere on a budget airline, and that's before factoring in the novelty value.
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I contacted the Villa Ticket Support and was told to speak to Hospitality. The passing of the buck in such incidences would indicate a difficult answer to my question was required.
I cannot see how if the Terrace View was taking tickets from an existing pool of aways earmarked for hospitality already, that the 19 away criteria would be 300 more than can fit into Bournemouth's away end.
The idea that I'm now not guaranteed a ticket to Bournemouth away, despite a full card since Edward the Confessor was on the throne, gives me cause for anxiety.
Regarding the ballot, I meant for all away games. Likelihood is with Villa in Europe that you'll get a ticket regardless, as we've never been that well supported for the away games outside the big lads/lads/lads places like Prague and Hamburg.
Thanks for the clarification re your last paragraph, my initial mis-reading. As you say 5-10% for the ballot would at least give some other season ticket holders a chance.
Saying, all that, if the Terrace View has allowed another 300 jump the away game que, this all becomes mute anyway.
Other posters are right imo re some clarification from the club would go a long way.
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I contacted the Villa Ticket Support and was told to speak to Hospitality. The passing of the buck in such incidences would indicate a difficult answer to my question was required.
I cannot see how if the Terrace View was taking tickets from an existing pool of aways earmarked for hospitality already, that the 19 away criteria would be 300 more than can fit into Bournemouth's away end.
The idea that I'm now not guaranteed a ticket to Bournemouth away, despite a full card since Edward the Confessor was on the throne, gives me cause for anxiety.
Regarding the ballot, I meant for all away games. Likelihood is with Villa in Europe that you'll get a ticket regardless, as we've never been that well supported for the away games outside the big lads/lads/lads places like Prague and Hamburg.
It's a different world now, though. You can get to just about anywhere on a budget airline, and that's before factoring in the novelty value.
I dont think it was particularly costly with Vienna and we took around 250 both times. Issue there was flying from Brum in 2009 we had to go via Zurich, while in 2010 we had to fly out of Gatwick (same for Odense). I might be better served by Manchester now I live up this way.
You're probably right though that we'll get a big novelty factor early on at the least. The away game mid-December (assuming we get through the Play Off) will be one that may be of lower demand.
In terms of aways, I'll contact hospitality and feedback. I'm conflicted really, as I actually wouldn't mind the idea of somewhere to sit down and eat within the Upper Holte for night games, as I'm conscious of my lad and wanting him to eat properly. I'd rather not pay £50 a time for us both, but with the increased mid-week games, it's something I might consider. I also have a big issue of puppy dog eyes asking if he's going to Newcastle or Burnley etc etc and me having to tell him no. The reality is my dad is likely to still be going to away games we'll into his 120s at this rate...
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I contacted the Villa Ticket Support and was told to speak to Hospitality. The passing of the buck in such incidences would indicate a difficult answer to my question was required.
I cannot see how if the Terrace View was taking tickets from an existing pool of aways earmarked for hospitality already, that the 19 away criteria would be 300 more than can fit into Bournemouth's away end.
The idea that I'm now not guaranteed a ticket to Bournemouth away, despite a full card since Edward the Confessor was on the throne, gives me cause for anxiety.
Regarding the ballot, I meant for all away games. Likelihood is with Villa in Europe that you'll get a ticket regardless, as we've never been that well supported for the away games outside the big lads/lads/lads places like Prague and Hamburg.
Well I don’t know exactly why, but I got 4 tickets for Newcastle last season, and none this, despite me going to more away games last season than I did the season before. I asked for an explanation but wasn’t given one, so the taking of existing corporate tickets for the new section is a distinct possibility.
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There's a bit of a misunderstanding on the number of people in each category for away tickets. The 1420 the club state as being eligible at 19+ includes
1) 10% of the Away capacity, which has been held back by the club since year dot, used to dole out to hospitality, players friends and family, away ballot winners, lions clubs, coach stewards etc. I expect the 'Terrace View' away tickets are taken out of this allocation.
2) the 1186 (by my calculation) of people who have been to all 19 away games
So for Bournemouth, everyone who went last year will be able to go this year, as that 10% in 1) will fluctuate
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On the supporter refused credit and not receiving notification of this and the terrace view conspiracy. One thing i would point out is that one of my roles in my job, is to manage my organisation’s direct debit payments from members and their are often lots of members who we haven’t been able to collect a payment, claim they have never had the notifications of this, even though there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn’t.
Aside from that, the way the Terrace View is being handled does stink to be honest, particularly being able to jump the que for away games amongst all the other issues.
I do think there is a problem with away game allocation. I completely understand the need for loyalty to those who follow Villa up and down the country every other week, but how do you break into that. Ive been a season ticket holder for donkeys, my kids too. My lads a teenager now and at an age when he wants to go to more away games with me, but its virtually impossible. Last year we went to Bolton and Man Utd in the league cup and then managed to get tickets to Spurs and Liverpool and friends couldn’t go, but obviously none of these go on our booking history. The ballot system is just too small.
Im getting on but my lad is the future in terms of home and away support for the club, so there needs to be a fairer way of allowing others some chance to break into the booking of away games. Maybe Ads idea of 5-10%, would be a better way, though i know he meant for euro cup away games.
The Terrace View and the whole way they are managing this process isn’t it.
I agree with loyalty being rewarded but I don’t think anyone could argue with allocating 10% of away tickets through a ballot. It seems a sensible solution to me.
Agree but the number should be higher - say 25%.
There's loyalty recognition and also a fair recognition that it should not be the same faces EVERY away game
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The counter-argument to that begins if you're one of the same faces.
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The counter-argument to that begins if you're one of the same daces.
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Yes agree it's a tricky one. Those who followed through thick and thin especially in the championship deserve recognition. But also it shouldn't be a closed shop. Difficult balance.
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Newcastle went to STHs only, there were tickets available on Friday evening and another small allocation of returns available today. It's not a completely closed shop, it's just hard to get the glamorous fixtures.
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I'm happy with my annual jolly up the M6 to see us get knocked out of the cup, beyond that away games don't really impact me anymore so I'll leave this one for the boffins in the north stand offices to sort.
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Newcastle went to STHs only, there were tickets available on Friday evening and another small allocation of returns available today. It's not a completely closed shop, it's just hard to get the glamorous fixtures.
For me it’s more that it’s hard to get a ‘friends’ awayday. If I really try then I might be able to get one or two tickets for the odd game, but we used to love going as a group of us. That was the fun of it!
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Newcastle went to STHs only, there were tickets available on Friday evening and another small allocation of returns available today. It's not a completely closed shop, it's just hard to get the glamorous fixtures.
For me it’s more that it’s hard to get a ‘friends’ awayday. If I really try then I might be able to get one or two tickets for the odd game, but we used to love going as a group of us. That was the fun of it!
Used to love that too. 7 or 8 of us in a PFB Van Hite with a few crates of ale and on the motorway Saturday mornings . Memories
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The big problem with the away scheme is that fans will buy a ticket even if they can’t go to the game just so they can keep up their qualification numbers (number of games I mean), knowing they’ll find someone to buy it off them anyway.
I know there are hundreds who genuinely haven’t missed a game for donkey’s years and I applaud them, and years ago when it was cash at the gate I went several seasons myself without missing a game too (including 80/81!), but anyone that wanted to could do that back then.
Now it’s a closed shop and becoming more and more difficult for the younger generation in particular to have their turn. So something has to be done about it. I would put 50% of the allocation on sale, first come first served, to all supporters who attended 50% of the away games last season in one sale. Then the other 50% go on sale to all season ticket holders (so the first group get two chances but can’t buy in both windows). Or even change those percentages to have a window for claret members too, as getting a season ticket is becoming a closed shop too.
Yes this could mean someone who hasn’t missed a game for 20 years having to miss one now and again, but you can’t own that right to a ticket just because you’ve been able to go so often before. There are also currently fans out there who ‘manage’ several references - and they are effectively deciding who gets those tickets each game. That stinks.
If the club adopt the same approach to European aways this season it is obvious what will happen - fans will buy tickets even if they can’t travel, so they can keep up their games record and guarantee themselves a ticket for when they can go, maybe the later stages of the competition.
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I tried and failed to get tickets for Newcastle on Friday and again tonight. I don’t begrudge anyone who goes to every away game having first dibs but there are certainly a lot of people who buy the tickets and pass them on just to keep their history. For me that should be looked into so others can have an opportunity.
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Well made points there DeKuip and I agree that something needs to give, however I’m not sure how committed the club are to finding a solution, otherwise they would have by now. Certainly this season is already seeing a slight shift, with reduced allocations for Liverpool and Burnley than in previous years, however this only further ringfences those in the top 2k or so of the qualifying criteria; they are still calling the shots.
I also miss being able to travel with a group of mates, on the train with beers and sometimes staying over - that’s one small aspect of life in the Championship that I miss. These days it’s just three of us, and every game is the much mocked ‘same old faces’ that gets banded about, but sadly it’s very true.
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Is it right to punish fans who do go to every game just because some do abuse their position though?
They can increase checks to make sure it is the right fans going, I’d be all in favour of that. And I’d be in favour of more tickets going into a ballot.
Whenever we are successful we get people complaining that away tickets are a closed shop, I remember it back in 2009/10 when I first became a ST holder. But I managed to get to some games and built up a history so the following season I went to every single away game, except Rapid Vienna.
Since then, there have been plenty of opportunities for people to get on the away game wagon, but usually when we are shit. People don’t want to then though.
But those of us who kept going through ten years of bollocks really don’t deserve to be treated like we are all cheating the system when people decide it’s now worth their time again.
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https://twitter.com/mckeown_ryan/status/1688621686029942784?s=46&t=KX85xbLNg41h2N4y-FzW2Q
What have they done?!
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I think you mean IHE HOLTE END.
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I agree, the overwhelming majority of the 1000 or so of us with full cards, go everywhere and have done for years in times when it wasn't hard to get an away ticket. Trying to stop a small minority passing tickets on at the expense of changing a system that would adversely discriminate those that go is disproportionate.
I think the only fair way with European aways is to go off away loyalty. A lot of the 1000 or so won't be able to go for financial/work reasons, so more would be available. I can't see it going back to either Vienna game or beyond (although it would suit if they did!) as it's just too long ago.
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https://twitter.com/mckeown_ryan/status/1688621686029942784?s=46&t=KX85xbLNg41h2N4y-FzW2Q
What have they done?!
Christ, that’s ugly.
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Ergh. That's dire.
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Who's that for?
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Shameful by those who made this happen.
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I think that's the new disabled area and the glass facade behind is the front of Terrace View
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I do miss the away days with a group of friends whether it just a day or making a weekend of it, the last championship year was the last time I was able to do that, Sheff Wed probs last one I made it to that was the whole big day out at a league game.
However, as much as the odd one like that would be fun, it would be more difficult now personally as my sons at an age when he really wants to experience the whole away day thing and i want to with him, as before I know it, he’ll probably be going with his mates.
On this, I don’t think anything disproportionate because of a few playing the system so to speak, is necessary. There has to be loyalty to the hardcore who have been going for years. There just also has to be a way in for the newer generation (in terms of age) of supporters, cheesy as it sounds my teenager and the thousands like him are the ones potentially still going in 40 years when I’m either dust, or a miracle of modern day science.
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I agree, the overwhelming majority of the 1000 or so of us with full cards, go everywhere and have done for years in times when it wasn't hard to get an away ticket. Trying to stop a small minority passing tickets on at the expense of changing a system that would adversely discriminate those that go is disproportionate.
I think the only fair way with European aways is to go off away loyalty. A lot of the 1000 or so won't be able to go for financial/work reasons, so more would be available. I can't see it going back to either Vienna game or beyond (although it would suit if they did!) as it's just too long ago.
how do you become loyal for away games if you can't get any tickets in the first place
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Start supporting us before 2019. As my little man is finding much to his cost in respect of away games.
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I went to quite a few away games in the Championship, and in the seasons before that when we were awful, but I’ve never gone to more than about half of the away games because that’s my level.
Since being back in The Premier League I think it’s got impossible because we got bigger allocations in The Championship and we ended up with more people with a full set of games. Also, the 23 awys in those seasons, gave us more people with close to 19.
So far from ‘where were you when we were in The Championship’, it’s actually that was when the numbers swelled, and the ‘hardcore’ that went to all the games got bigger.
It feels like it’s gone ‘all or nothing’. I don’t want to build up an away history of 19 games a season, I’d just like to go to half a dozen or so with my mates like I used to, regardless of ‘when we were shit’.
It’s no good saying you start with ‘Newcastle on a Tuesday night’ when there is no way of ever getting beyond that.
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The photos circulating on Twitter of the Terrace View adjustment to the Holte are pretty grim.
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According to my contact, they’ve stopped selling the Terrace View season tickets now, and are now going to sell them on a match by match basis.
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The photos circulating on Twitter of the Terrace View adjustment to the Holte are pretty grim.
Very grim….look ugly, like something off Cowboy builders - they seem intent on making it look as bad as the facilities and services on the concourses….we have some absolute planks making decisions at our club at the moment. The disparity in ability betw those making football decisions and those making what should be easy decisions around ticketing etc is stark
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Someone on twitter has pointed out that the mock ups for the new North, together with the revamped Trinity, both have what looks like a large glass fronted areas inbetween top and bottom tiers, rather like the current gas lamp in the North, therefore it appears that the Terrace may be the forerunner of this form of executive seating/lounges in all stands. I’m not sure that the Holte is the place for this though.
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I saw that photo last night, and have to admit it just made me pretty sad.
It looks shit and it shouldn’t be there.
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Looks terrible
I wonder if they will change the seats in the area where they have destroyed the lettering or that won't matter and like the badge it'll be a half job and it won't matter anyway as it's just for the scum
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The same was done with the AV lettering in the North Stand. That was butchered and never fixed properly.
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https://twitter.com/mckeown_ryan/status/1688621686029942784?s=46&t=KX85xbLNg41h2N4y-FzW2Q
What have they done?!
You have to say that is absolutely scandalous
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I went to quite a few away games in the Championship, and in the seasons before that when we were awful, but I’ve never gone to more than about half of the away games because that’s my level.
Since being back in The Premier League I think it’s got impossible because we got bigger allocations in The Championship and we ended up with more people with a full set of games. Also, the 23 awys in those seasons, gave us more people with close to 19.
So far from ‘where were you when we were in The Championship’, it’s actually that was when the numbers swelled, and the ‘hardcore’ that went to all the games got bigger.
It feels like it’s gone ‘all or nothing’. I don’t want to build up an away history of 19 games a season, I’d just like to go to half a dozen or so with my mates like I used to, regardless of ‘when we were shit’.
It’s no good saying you start with ‘Newcastle on a Tuesday night’ when there is no way of ever getting beyond that.
There has to be some reward for loyalty but also a chance for others to get onboard.
I missed very few away games between 1980 and 2000 and would’ve been a bit peeved if during the decent seasons I’d been cast aside. A ballot of between 10/15% for each game seems the only fair way in my opinion. I’ve entered every ballot there’s been and never got a ticket but have managed to get some from elsewhere. This is also an issue,
people building their history and not going. Is there a way of stopping this because I can’t think of one?
People used to just stop going but now they keep buying the tickets so they can get to the games they want. It’s being abused by some but what can you do?
10/15% or a couple of hundred per away game on a ballot seems a good way. If you win a ticket this way you sit out the next one.
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There's a lot of people moaning about this on Twitter. I'm sure this is actually the new wheelchair area and not just the Terrace View. However, the areas are clearly connected and it doesn't take much imagination to guess what a longer-term plan would be. (ooh, look at this lovely wheelchair area we've created in the North Stand / corner, now what shall we do with this very convenient area in front of the Terrace View?....) I always suspected there would be padded seats coming to the Holte, but it now makes more sense that these would be in the lower not the upper, although the current standing would make it a problem.
You would hope that they will move the letting down a few rows to replace the 'T' before the first game, but they have got a lot of work to do based on the video that's going round.
(https://i.ibb.co/Jzpvm1R/F283b9-QWYAANxd9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jzpvm1R)
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I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a Man United season ticket holder
He told me in their European campaigns it got so bad with people buying tickets and not going in the end supporters had to go in person to a specified place, I think he said it was a hotel with their passport as proof of ID and collect the ticket that way
Apparently one of their games was in the middle of nowhere they had about 2000 tickets all sold only 300 turned up to the actual game
That’s when they decided to do something about it
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I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a Man United season ticket holder
He told me in their European campaigns it got so bad with people buying tickets and not going in the end supporters had to go in person to a specified place, I think he said it was a hotel with their passport as proof of ID and collect the ticket that way
Apparently one of their games was in the middle of nowhere they had about 2000 tickets all sold only 300 turned up to the actual game
That’s when they decided to do something about it
That's why I am confused about our checking process. We are supposed to have people every away game selected to collect their tickets on the day with ID. But even though I go every game, I've not once had to do this. I lost or didn't receive my tickets for Leicester away last season and had to get one at the ground, and they did ask for our IDs. though.
I think they could ramp this up considerably as it's no great hassle to collect from the ticket office if you know in advance to get there a bit early. Someone like me with 19 games last season should be a prime candidate to be checked at least once a season you'd think.
I can only think maybe the away grounds aren't too pleased with doing more than a handful?
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There's a lot of people moaning about this on Twitter. I'm sure this is actually the new wheelchair area and not just the Terrace View. However, the areas are clearly connected and it doesn't take much imagination to guess what a longer-term plan would be. (ooh, look at this lovely wheelchair area we've created in the North Stand / corner, now what shall we do with this very convenient area in front of the Terrace View?....) I always suspected there would be padded seats coming to the Holte, but it now makes more sense that these would be in the lower not the upper, although the current standing would make it a problem.
You would hope that they will move the letting down a few rows to replace the 'T' before the first game, but they have got a lot of work to do based on the video that's going round.
(https://i.ibb.co/Jzpvm1R/F283b9-QWYAANxd9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jzpvm1R)
Its the wheelchair area which is the sunken part. The glass facade at the back is Terrace View .
I have no issue at all with extra wheelchairs but the glazing looks awful .
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According to my contact, they’ve stopped selling the Terrace View season tickets now, and are now going to sell them on a match by match basis.
I see the've unlocked the Holte Upper and our now selling the seats for the Everton game (as standard seats not premium TV)
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The glazing part not being centred looks particularly horrible.
It all looks like the sort of make-and-do bodge-job Crystal Palace would do to their shitty ground.
Very, very disappointing.
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Won't they have a problem with people at the back of the Lower Holte standing and obscuring the view of the wheelchair users? Difficult to tell from the pictures.
The glass looks terribly out of keeping with the stand. Doug would have been crucified.
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
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I understand the role of corporate in generating money for the club, of course it is necessary, but surely, one bit of the ground without any of it, would it kill them?
I look forward to them telling us they did a poll about hospitality in the Holte, and the clear demand was for this.
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I understand the role of corporate in generating money for the club, of course it is necessary, but surely, one bit of the ground without any of it, would it kill them?
I look forward to them telling us they did a poll about hospitality in the Holte, and the clear demand was for this.
This has been my point all along, I might sound precious but the Holte should be sacrosanct. None of this fuss would be kicked up had this been introduced in any other part of the ground. The Holte is always us, not us and them.
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
Or when he decided that adverts should cover Leitch’s masterpiece of a balcony in the Trinity. £25k per year that raised…
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Surely those can't be wheelchair spaces?
I am no sports venue architect, but even I can see that sticking wheelchair users behind 6,000 people standing up isn't going to work.
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Surely those can't be wheelchair spaces?
I am no sports venue architect, but even I can see that sticking wheelchair users behind 6,000 people standing up isn't going to work.
They are. It was discussed on here before, they removed approx 110 season ticket holders to build the space. Always felt like a strange place to build it to me.
But if you look at grounds like Old Traford, they have huge disabled seatng areas and no doubt there are regulations we need to comply with as we expand the stadium. It just feels it's in very convenient proximity to the Terrace View to me and is adding a relatively small number of spaces.
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Its like someone has whacked a 1990's conservatory into the middle of The Holte.
Hideous .
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Its like someone has whacked a 1990's conservatory into the middle of The Holte.
Hideous .
More a 70’s lean too
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Its like someone has whacked a 1990's conservatory into the middle of The Holte.
Hideous .
More a 70’s lean too
I could just see my Parker Knoll sitting behind that glass. Lovely
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
Or when he decided that adverts should cover Leitch’s masterpiece of a balcony in the Trinity. £25k per year that raised…
Or the green house on the back of the Trinity balcony which stopped it being listed. Or the red guttering. Or the huge brown cladding on the Holte and Witton Ends. No appreciation of history at all.
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
Or when he decided that adverts should cover Leitch’s masterpiece of a balcony in the Trinity. £25k per year that raised…
Or the green house on the back of the Trinity balcony which stopped it being listed. Or the red guttering. Or the huge brown cladding on the Holte and Witton Ends. No appreciation of history at all.
And that's the thing - you knew Ellis would do everything on the cheap but expected NSWE to be different.
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The brother said that he believes what happens is that they get someone to stand in front of the disability seating area to judge the height of people standing up, not sure if he is correct on this occasion
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
Or when he decided that adverts should cover Leitch’s masterpiece of a balcony in the Trinity. £25k per year that raised…
Or the green house on the back of the Trinity balcony which stopped it being listed. Or the red guttering. Or the huge brown cladding on the Holte and Witton Ends. No appreciation of history at all.
And that's the thing - you knew Ellis would do everything on the cheap but expected NSWE to be different.
Would they have even seen the designs (Nas & Wes) ?
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The brother said that he believes what happens is that they get someone to stand in front of the disability seating area to judge the height of people standing up, not sure if he is correct on this occasion
Well if it's that fucker that has followed me around from gig to gig for 30 odd years just stand in front of me they will need to put the area on 10 ft columns.
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I remember Ellis bolting on some boxes at the back of the Witton Lane Stand and they looked exactly as they sound, awful.
Distinct echoes here.
Or when he decided that adverts should cover Leitch’s masterpiece of a balcony in the Trinity. £25k per year that raised…
Or the green house on the back of the Trinity balcony which stopped it being listed. Or the red guttering. Or the huge brown cladding on the Holte and Witton Ends. No appreciation of history at all.
And that's the thing - you knew Ellis would do everything on the cheap but expected NSWE to be different.
Would they have even seen the designs (Nas & Wes) ?
Even if they hadn't, you'd have hoped that the make do and mend culture had been eradicated.
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I've never been in the 1874 lounge. What is it like, where is it accessed from and how much is it? Is it open at half time too?
I was just wondering how it compares to the Terrace View and given the limited take up if that is more what the TV will become in the future. Or will it go the other way and will they upscale the 1874 and chuck some padded seats into the Witton?
I've been in there a few times. Mick Dale used to host in there, do a quiz written by Rob Bishop and you'd get an ex player or two come in. It was alright actually. You'd get a pint quick enough and a pie. It's the sort of thing they should keep on and make it a reasonable price. Last I heard it was £50 for the season so it's a shame if its gone up. I got in via a draw using my reward points.
They now have Bar 1874 available on the website for the Everton game at £15.00 I'm sure they would do better if they gave a bit more detail about it though.
I assume they'll sell Terrace View on a game by game basis in a similar way. To be honest with the two free pints, programme etc, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a reasonable number of takers on an occasional basis at 25 quid.
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is Bar 1874 the former Lions Club in the Witton Lane stand ?
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is Bar 1874 the former Lions Club in the Witton Lane stand?
I believe so. And having checked the tickets on sale at £15.00 are for guests of 1874 members - so not on general sale.
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They clearly used the extra disability seats as an excuse to hack away at the back of the Holte for the Terrace view.
Future will see disability seats moved (north stand) an an executive platform for padded seats at the back of the Holte
Everything the club is doing off the pitch is sickening.
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Oh fuck off with your hyperbole. It's irritating, it's annoying, it's frustrating, its a round of fucks to be given at an FCG, it's all normal things like that. It's not Unit 731.
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They clearly used the extra disability seats as an excuse to hack away at the back of the Holte for the Terrace view.
Future will see disability seats moved (north stand) an am executive platform for padded seats at the back of the Holte
Everything the club is doing off the pitch is sickening.
This weather is getting to you isn’t it?
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One thing Unit 731 had over the VP catering operation: at least their victims didn't have to queue to receive something that'd boil their guts from the inside.
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One thing Unit 731 had over the VP catering operation: at least their victims didn't have to queue to receive something that'd boil their guts from the inside.
None of the 300,000 killed in human experimentation ever had to drink a can of Monster either. So when you put it like that, we're actually worse than the Imperial Japanese Army. Makes you sick.
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I fully back the statement by the Supporters Trust. Sadly and for some bizzare reason it seems People don't like the simple truth.
Look at the state of the Holte End, instead of putting glass walls in try refreshing the seats , they're all fading it looks a right mess.
Bring back the T !
As someone pointed out, we had to look at half of an A for years and even now it looks pathetic
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What simple truth is that?
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I fully back the statement by the Supporters Trust. Sadly and for some bizzare reason it seems People don't like the simple truth.
Look at the state of the Holte End, instead of putting glass walls in try refreshing the seats , they're all fading it looks a right mess.
Bring back the T !
As someone pointed out, we had to look at half of an A for years and even now it looks pathetic
Just admit it, you hate the club.
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One thing Unit 731 had over the VP catering operation: at least their victims didn't have to queue to receive something that'd boil their guts from the inside.
None of the 300,000 killed in human experimentation ever had to drink a can of Monster either. So when you put it like that, we're actually worse than the Imperial Japanese Army. Makes you sick.
And the Americans turn a blind eye again
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I fully back the statement by the Supporters Trust. Sadly and for some bizzare reason it seems People don't like the simple truth.
Look at the state of the Holte End, instead of putting glass walls in try refreshing the seats , they're all fading it looks a right mess.
Bring back the T !
As someone pointed out, we had to look at half of an A for years and even now it looks pathetic
Who cares how faded the seat is when it’s just gonna have an arse sitting on it?
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They clearly used the extra disability seats as an excuse to hack away at the back of the Holte for the Terrace view.
Future will see disability seats moved (north stand) an an executive platform for padded seats at the back of the Holte
Everything the club is doing off the pitch is sickening.
You say “everything” so while your sticking the boot in let’s have a list.
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How many members are there in the trust,, anyone know?
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It's easier to have a go at me and keep your head in the clouds whilst Villa Park , our home, our heritage and history is being destroyed .
There should be no corporate on The Holte.
We're Aston Villa not some Tourist London club.
Have some pride in our traditions and working class background.
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
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I've been checking what's happening with the Holte upper for the Everton game and logged on today to see it's no longer "locked"but is now sold out. Anyone know whether they published anything about if they went on sale and if so, when?
Wonder if this is going to happen for every home game.
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I've been checking what's happening with the Holte upper for the Everton game and logged on today to see it's no longer "locked"but is now sold out. Anyone know whether they published anything about if they went on sale and if so, when?
Wonder if this is going to happen for every home game.
they couldn't shift the 300 odd left as ST so these are now being flogged by individual game
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is Bar 1874 the former Lions Club in the Witton Lane stand?
I believe so. And having checked the tickets on sale at £15.00 are for guests of 1874 members - so not on general sale.
yeah i thought 1874 was a seasonal membership - about £350 i think . All you get for that is access to a bar i believe
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It's easier to have a go at me and keep your head in the clouds whilst Villa Park , our home, our heritage and history is being destroyed .
There should be no corporate on The Holte.
We're Aston Villa not some Tourist London club.
Have some pride in our traditions and working class background.
I started going in 1972. The ground has changed totally since then. The Witton, Holte and trinity knocked down and rebuilt. The north stand built. From terracing to all seater. Corporate and restaurants in the Trinity, the Witton renamed ….
Of course if we are going back to our roots, Perry Barr here we come.
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I think it is a Purlsow scheme that was too far down the line for them to stop, but the new guy will review all of these things and hopefully take fan feelings into account. Or he'll make it corporately worse, who knows. It's annoying they have put it in the Holte, but if it doesn't sell out and is available on a match by match basis, it is something I may try once or twice. Like Simboy, I've seen the ground totally transform, so I'm not wailing and gnashing about this small change on the Holte, but it will be interesting to see what the next phase of being Villa is. NSWE have plenty of credit in the bank for me.
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I'll probably pop in and see what it's like as well if I get the opportunity at some point.
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
Certainly wooden seats and the taking down of the screens. Floodlights, abominable things, they can do one too.
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Maybe thats why it's so hard to get a beer!
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
Certainly wooden seats and the taking down of the screens. Floodlights, abominable things, they can do one too.
That stand behind the goal from 1994, that would definitely have to go.
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
Certainly wooden seats and the taking down of the screens. Floodlights, abominable things, they can do one too.
That stand behind the goal from 1994, that would definitely have to go.
Also lets get back to men only at matches and every single one of them wearing a hat.
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
Certainly wooden seats and the taking down of the screens. Floodlights, abominable things, they can do one too.
That stand behind the goal from 1994, that would definitely have to go.
Also lets get back to men only at matches and every single one of them wearing a hat.
It's the only way to stop the sickening behaviour. Wake up sheeple.
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Let’s have pride in our Victorian roots.
I DEMAND the reopening of Aston Workhouse and the restoration of rickets NOW.
Could be anything. A move back to Perry Barr, back to playing cricket, banning alcohol in the Wesleyan tradition. Who knows?
Certainly wooden seats and the taking down of the screens. Floodlights, abominable things, they can do one too.
That stand behind the goal from 1994, that would definitely have to go.
Also lets get back to men only at matches and every single one of them wearing a hat.
and carrying a rattle and a packet of woodbine
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In the heart of the working class,
A game was played with sweat and brass,
Football, the working man's hope,
With Aston Villa as their scope.
A team of heroes, loved by all,
Fans cheered and sang, answering the call,
But with each passing year and day,
The price of tickets got in the way.
Fans, beloved and true,
Were pushed aside with much ado,
As prices soared and wages stayed,
Their connection to the game began to fade.
The roar of the stadium grew faint,
As those who loved the game could not keep up with the rates,
And soon the football field was only for those,
Who could afford the price of the shows.
The working class and Aston Villa,
Gave rise to a game of great thrill,
But as money outweighed love,
It became a game of the lucky, from above.
In the sweaty streets of Birmingham,
The voices of the fans still sang,
In hopes that one day the prices would change,
And football would return to the working class, with its range.
For football, the working man's hope,
Should not be boxed in by daunting slope,
But handed back to those who love it best,
The working class, who have given it their best.
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Restoration Of Rickets! Hope the African Car Reverser gets cracking with that song title.
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Stick to our roots! While trolling a website using Ai.
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I don't know Terrace View
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I love all this working class stuff, as if anyone who can afford to go can’t actually love the club.
My dad left school at 14 to work in a factory and support his family, so I guess he was working class enough to love Villa.
I only left school after my GCSEs to go and work in a factory, and then only to support myself, so I guess I can only be a bit fond of the club?
We should put together a manifesto to make it clear we want all these posh bastards like me to get out of the club and take our useless money and singing with us!
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Anyway, back to the 'shouting at the Terrace View' thread. Guy on Twitter who has an accessible season ticket in the new section in the Holte confirmed it was sold to him as a hospitality / premium space. I don't think he jumped any queues as has had a ticket at Villa for some time, but he was chuffed to have a space in the Holte.
Good to know they're squeezing every last drop.
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Is anyone like me still waiting for delivery of their ST?
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Mine has come, but my son's hasn't.
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Quick question - due to seriously bad planning, we can't go to the first game . I want to gift my seats to a friend but would prefer not to give them the cards as they dont live especially local to me .........vaguely remember that I can ask for a pdf ticket to pass on - is this still a thing and if so, how do you go about it ?
Cheers
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Yes you can. When Ive done this, ive done it via Villa support on Twitter. They're very quick in helping as well, and will email you the pdf
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Quick question - due to seriously bad planning, we can't go to the first game . I want to gift my seats to a friend but would prefer not to give them the cards as they dont live especially local to me .........vaguely remember that I can ask for a pdf ticket to pass on - is this still a thing and if so, how do you go about it ?
Cheers
Yes, if you phone the ticket office up they should facilitate this for you. Your friends will need a fan ID. If they don't have one you can use someone else's ID (if they are not attending) as the tickets will be e-mailed to both you and them so you should be able to get them to your friends. If you need any ID's I could help as neither of my kids are going.
** this is how it used to work anyway
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Forgive my ignorance, though are you officially allowed to 'gift' your ST for the odd game you cannot make to a friend/relative?
I thought the options were:
1. Give them the ST card in the expectation they won't be asked for id, or
2. Hope the club might sell the seat to anyone and get a refund (that is marginally lower than the cost of the ST divided by the no. of games).
I've renewed our STs again and the letter mentions the ST resale facility and states, "this remains the only authorised way to resell your season ticket." UTV
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I have used the facility of phoning up and reassigning the odd game to someone else when I can't attend. Whoever you assign it to will need a client reference setting up if they haven't already so you probably need some basic details (DOB, address etc)
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Thanks Bully. :)
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Forgive my ignorance, though are you officially allowed to 'gift' your ST for the odd game you cannot make to a friend/relative?
I thought the options were:
1. Give them the ST card in the expectation they won't be asked for id, or
2. Hope the club might sell the seat to anyone and get a refund (that is marginally lower than the cost of the ST divided by the no. of games).
I've renewed our STs again and the letter mentions the ST resale facility and states, "this remains the only authorised way to resell your season ticket." UTV
Yes you can, but officially you have to re-assign the ticket to the individual and they have to have a fan id.
How they police this though I'm not sure - can they ask you for ID in the ground to prove the ticket is allocated correctly? Sounds a bit of a dodgy request.."Show me your papers" type thing.
The other difficulty is swapping a concession ticket to a full-price adult one - as you have to pay the difference or gamble on not getting stopped at a turnstile. You can only do this via the phone.
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It's not policed. If you get a paper ticket you can give it to anyone. If you trust them you can pass your season card to anyone. It only because a potential problem when you're passing on a concession ticket.
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It hasn't been in the past - but they are clamping down on ticket swapping etc... so I just wonder if/how they could manage it.
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It hasn't been in the past - but they are clamping down on ticket swapping etc... so I just wonder if/how they could manage it.
One thing I'm convinced of is that they're not going to start asking for ID at a turnstile unless a concession issue arises.
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a certain % of away tickets you have to collect at venue and show ID. All done randomly by game
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a certain % of away tickets you have to collect at venue and show ID. All done randomly by game
Yes, but that's not the same as passing your home ST to a mate.
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Will all be fingerprint access soon. Or some other digital crap where they can restrict the less fortunate
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Will all be fingerprint access soon. Or some other digital crap where they can restrict the less fortunate
If the working class don't have fingers, the only way they'd not have fingerprints, how do they work? Or mash absolute shite into their phones for the rest of us to see?
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Mouth swabs.
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Will all be fingerprint access soon. Or some other digital crap where they can restrict the less fortunate
That’s some fucking moan even for you. You really are a champion for impoverished British working class men and women.
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Will all be fingerprint access soon. Or some other digital crap where they can restrict the less fortunate
It won't be. But even so, how would this be any more restrictive to the less fortunate? Unless you're talking about people with no figures, which is a very niche part of society to be white knighting for.
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We have cashless/contactless shops opening up , a few in London. Piers Corbyn was at an Aldi the other day and there were barriers up preventing him from buying a packet of strawberries unless he signed up to the system.
you register and just walk in ,no option of using your cash or even your card. This will be the case at football. I suspect facial recognition so there will be no more 'passing on' your card to a friend or family member who may normally not be able to afford to attend. The club might offer a service to change the ticket but no doubt there will be a big process and cost attached .
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And the looking glass is well and truly entered.
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If I had a shop and saw Piers Corbyn heading my way I'd board up the fucking windows.
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tattooed Qr-code on each supporters forehead...its the only way to make sure....
::)
UTV
The Doc
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Implant in the neck.
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Who had Wilma going all "GB News" on their bingo card?
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Far from GB news fan but a very big fan of both Corbyn brothers. Principled human beings who stick by their beliefs even if I don't agree with all of them , I have nothing but admiration, going against the nodding dogs .
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Better not start this finger print crap I had mine removed just before I took part in the Great Train Robbery, up to now no one bothered me
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Far from GB news fan but a very big fan of both Corbyn brothers. Principled human beings who stick by their beliefs even if I don't agree with all of them , I have nothing but admiration, going against the nodding dogs .
Fucking hell.
I can understand why someone might remain a supporter of Jeremy, but Piers Corbyn is a bona fide nutter.
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Yep. Piers is a massive massive twat.
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Far from GB news fan but a very big fan of both Corbyn brothers. Principled human beings who stick by their beliefs even if I don't agree with all of them , I have nothing but admiration, going against the nodding dogs .
Fucking hell.
I can understand why someone might remain a supporter of Jeremy, but Piers Corbyn is a bona fide nutter.
Isn’t he a climate change denier?
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Far from GB news fan but a very big fan of both Corbyn brothers. Principled human beings who stick by their beliefs even if I don't agree with all of them , I have nothing but admiration, going against the nodding dogs .
Fucking hell.
I can understand why someone might remain a supporter of Jeremy, but Piers Corbyn is a bona fide nutter.
Isn’t he a climate change denier?
Yes he is and a Covid sceptic, likened the vaccine roll out to Auschwitz.
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We have cashless/contactless shops opening up , a few in London. Piers Corbyn was at an Aldi the other day and there were barriers up preventing him from buying a packet of strawberries unless he signed up to the system.
you register and just walk in ,no option of using your cash or even your card. This will be the case at football. I suspect facial recognition so there will be no more 'passing on' your card to a friend or family member who may normally not be able to afford to attend. The club might offer a service to change the ticket but no doubt there will be a big process and cost attached .
There is no conspiracy with cashless shops. Take Villa as an example you turn up pay for you drink/food with cash but it's not exact so you obviously want change how do you think they get that change? they have to get it from the bank who then have to transport that money to the club in a very secure and very expensive van. Then after the match that cash doesn't just magic itself into Villas bank so the 1st process has to be reversed and then once it's at the bank it has to be counted, this process isn't free the driver of the Cash In Transit van has to be paid as do the people counting it in the bank I know this because I used to do it. You think you're helping the club because you buy their stuff but if you do it with cash then the club doesn't see all your money whereas if you pay with your card which you seem opposed to then the club see a hell of a lot more of your money than if you paid cash.
Oh and one last thing the people collecting and counting the money are working class people who are on a really low wage, so if you've got a problem with cashless it's those pesky working class people that are to blame.
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I was stood behind an old chap today, who was trying to use up all his loose change to pay for something. After about 5 minutes of checking various pockets and counting lots of 10 and 5 pence pieces, he came up 15p short, admitted defeat and then used contactless anyway. I could cheerfully have chucked him in the sea.
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I thought you were going to say you had some spare change in your pocket, gave him the 15p, he was really grateful, you hugged and both went on your merry way.
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Was it Piers Corbyn by any chance? I’d have chucked that fucker in the sea before he even reached for his pocket.
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Spotlight has been off Terrace View what with events on the pitch. Wonder what it looks like now , i'm a bit anxious of looking at the Holte Sunday now if i'm honest
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Spotlight has been off Terrace View what with events on the pitch. Wonder what it looks like now , i'm a bit anxious of looking at the Holte Sunday now if i'm honest
For those of us who stood on the Holte when it was open to the heavens and remember those days all this looks like a concocted storm in a tea cup.
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
Yes I think you get a notification, then the money appears in your bank. It's a very easy system tbh and I'm always surprised when people can't be bothered to sell it back if they can't make it - it's the click of a button.
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
Yes I think you get a notification, then the money appears in your bank. It's a very easy system tbh and I'm always surprised when people can't be bothered to sell it back if they can't make it - it's the click of a button.
thanks , yeah just checked and its confirmed online that its been resold and "you'll receive your reimbursement soon"
very easy process
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
Terrible attitude,we may not sell out now, they will people be complaining
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
Terrible attitude,we may not sell out now, they will people be complaining
My ticket sold almost instantly
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Can't go Sunday so i've flogged my ticket back to the club.
Anyone done this before and do you get notified when the ticket is sold etc ?
Yes I think you get a notification, then the money appears in your bank. It's a very easy system tbh and I'm always surprised when people can't be bothered to sell it back if they can't make it - it's the click of a button.
thanks , yeah just checked and its confirmed online that its been resold and "you'll receive your reimbursement soon"
very easy process
It is a genuinely good system, and pretty fair in terms of what you get / what they do.
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I've seen a photo of the gift pack on Twitter.
Nice looking pewter style Keyring plus a pen and notebook that look very pink on the photo.
Hopefully it will be sufficient to cheer Fred up in his splendid isolation.
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Just had my gift pack delivered
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I've seen a photo of the gift pack on Twitter.
Nice looking pewter style Keyring plus a pen and notebook that look very pink on the photo.
Hopefully it will be sufficient to cheer Fred up in his splendid isolation.
He'll be able to use the pen and notebook to write out his misery troll posts by hand, before screwing them up and sticking them up his arse.
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Just had my gift pack delivered
And me. I'm quite impressed by it.
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Mine arrived this morning. Plushest tat we've had for a while
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I see The Holte Suite is closed on Sunday !? WTF !? They've had all summer to get it ready
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Probably shifted the staff to the Terrace View
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Probably shifted the staff to the Terrace View
Yep.
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I see The Holte Suite is closed on Sunday !? WTF !? They've had all summer to get it ready
Seriously? Was planning on going too. That’s really poor.
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I see The Holte Suite is closed on Sunday !? WTF !? They've had all summer to get it ready
Seriously? Was planning on going too. That’s really poor.
Yep seriously. Announcement on official website
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This part of the announcement sounds ominous/costly:
“The lounge at Villa Park is undertaking renovations and upgrades, with further information to be confirmed shortly around the availability of the suite.”
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This part of the announcement sounds ominous/costly:
“The lounge at Villa Park is undertaking renovations and upgrades, with further information to be confirmed shortly around the availability of the suite.”
the writing is on the wall
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The writing is the entrance fee to the "Holte Suite View" - £500 per season.....
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There is a lot of things at Villa that we have got right I think
Owners, manager, a lot of the players we can be proud of rather than embarrassed, backroom staff also look pretty professional, ground improvement plans look good, and generally the vision going forward is positive
But there is also stuff that is still shite
Dealing with the ticket office on the website is just torturous, and the Villa app is rubbish and I’m not user friendly I’d sack anyone who had anything to do with that
The music played at matches at 100 million dB and is turned on as soon as the final whistle blows with shit songs is just bloody annoying and sucks the atmosphere straight out of the ground he/she that does that needs sacking asap
The Wi-Fi in the ground is shockingly bad well it’s non-existent. This might not be anything to do with Villa but I’m gonna moan about it anyway and all the Wi-Fi people need sacking
Anyone who had anything to do with that Terrace been built in the middle of the middle of the Holte needs sacking
Whoever decided we aren’t grown up enough to watch the sky build up or any of the matches including the actual Villa game on the concourse When you’re waiting before the match starts or popping off to the toilet, they all need sacking
whoever organises the trains leaving Aston or Witton half full after games,
They all need sacking
That’s it for now, but I can probably think of more
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Add the Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train to above.
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Add the Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train to above.
Weirdly, I actually like that
I think only Birmingham bands music should be played before games or maybe a little wider out if they have a connection to the Villa
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You’ve nailed it there John E, especially with the music after the game. Boils my piss that.
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I’m not user friendly
This is true, but if you put the effort in with him he can be very rewarding.
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I’m not user friendly
This is true, but if you put the effort in with him he can be very rewarding.
Trust you to notice that
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There is a lot of things at Villa that we have got right I think
Owners, manager, a lot of the players we can be proud of rather than embarrassed, backroom staff also look pretty professional, ground improvement plans look good, and generally the vision going forward is positive
But there is also stuff that is still shite
Dealing with the ticket office on the website is just torturous, and the Villa app is rubbish and I’m not user friendly I’d sack anyone who had anything to do with that
The music played at matches at 100 million dB and is turned on as soon as the final whistle blows with shit songs is just bloody annoying and sucks the atmosphere straight out of the ground he/she that does that needs sacking asap
The Wi-Fi in the ground is shockingly bad well it’s non-existent. This might not be anything to do with Villa but I’m gonna moan about it anyway and all the Wi-Fi people need sacking
Anyone who had anything to do with that Terrace been built in the middle of the middle of the Holte needs sacking
Whoever decided we aren’t grown up enough to watch the sky build up or any of the matches including the actual Villa game on the concourse When you’re waiting before the match starts or popping off to the toilet, they all need sacking
whoever organises the trains leaving Aston or Witton half full after games,
They all need sacking
That’s it for now, but I can probably think of more
Rant of The Day
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There is a lot of things at Villa that we have got right I think
Owners, manager, a lot of the players we can be proud of rather than embarrassed, backroom staff also look pretty professional, ground improvement plans look good, and generally the vision going forward is positive
But there is also stuff that is still shite
Dealing with the ticket office on the website is just torturous, and the Villa app is rubbish and I’m not user friendly I’d sack anyone who had anything to do with that
The music played at matches at 100 million dB and is turned on as soon as the final whistle blows with shit songs is just bloody annoying and sucks the atmosphere straight out of the ground he/she that does that needs sacking asap
The Wi-Fi in the ground is shockingly bad well it’s non-existent. This might not be anything to do with Villa but I’m gonna moan about it anyway and all the Wi-Fi people need sacking
Anyone who had anything to do with that Terrace been built in the middle of the middle of the Holte needs sacking
Whoever decided we aren’t grown up enough to watch the sky build up or any of the matches including the actual Villa game on the concourse When you’re waiting before the match starts or popping off to the toilet, they all need sacking
whoever organises the trains leaving Aston or Witton half full after games,
They all need sacking
That’s it for now, but I can probably think of more
Top ranting - and I agree with all of it,
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Add the Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train to above.
Weirdly, I actually like that
I think only Birmingham bands music should be played before games or maybe a little wider out if they have a connection to the Villa
I agree.
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I wonder if Where it Lands will be back this season.
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There is a lot of things at Villa that we have got right I think
Owners, manager, a lot of the players we can be proud of rather than embarrassed, backroom staff also look pretty professional, ground improvement plans look good, and generally the vision going forward is positive
But there is also stuff that is still shite
Dealing with the ticket office on the website is just torturous, and the Villa app is rubbish and I’m not user friendly I’d sack anyone who had anything to do with that
The music played at matches at 100 million dB and is turned on as soon as the final whistle blows with shit songs is just bloody annoying and sucks the atmosphere straight out of the ground he/she that does that needs sacking asap
The Wi-Fi in the ground is shockingly bad well it’s non-existent. This might not be anything to do with Villa but I’m gonna moan about it anyway and all the Wi-Fi people need sacking
Anyone who had anything to do with that Terrace been built in the middle of the middle of the Holte needs sacking
Whoever decided we aren’t grown up enough to watch the sky build up or any of the matches including the actual Villa game on the concourse When you’re waiting before the match starts or popping off to the toilet, they all need sacking
whoever organises the trains leaving Aston or Witton half full after games,
They all need sacking
That’s it for now, but I can probably think of more
Top ranting - and I agree with all of it,
People moan about 'the wifi' but do they realise they're not talking about 'the wifi' but their mobile network data coverage?
Unless you're connecting to a Villa wifi network when you get to the ground, you're talking about the mobile data bandwidth at the ground, as provided by the mobile networks.
The reason it is shit is because, in an area where - say, on a normal week day - there might be 1,000 in radius of the mast in question, which works well, on match day there are 45,000 odd, and the bandwidth can not cope.
So it's fuck all to do with the club if it doesn't work very well, it is ALL on the mobile networks and nowt to do with 'wifi people'.
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There is a lot of things at Villa that we have got right I think
Owners, manager, a lot of the players we can be proud of rather than embarrassed, backroom staff also look pretty professional, ground improvement plans look good, and generally the vision going forward is positive
But there is also stuff that is still shite
Dealing with the ticket office on the website is just torturous, and the Villa app is rubbish and I’m not user friendly I’d sack anyone who had anything to do with that
The music played at matches at 100 million dB and is turned on as soon as the final whistle blows with shit songs is just bloody annoying and sucks the atmosphere straight out of the ground he/she that does that needs sacking asap
The Wi-Fi in the ground is shockingly bad well it’s non-existent. This might not be anything to do with Villa but I’m gonna moan about it anyway and all the Wi-Fi people need sacking
Anyone who had anything to do with that Terrace been built in the middle of the middle of the Holte needs sacking
Whoever decided we aren’t grown up enough to watch the sky build up or any of the matches including the actual Villa game on the concourse When you’re waiting before the match starts or popping off to the toilet, they all need sacking
whoever organises the trains leaving Aston or Witton half full after games,
They all need sacking
That’s it for now, but I can probably think of more
Top ranting - and I agree with all of it,
People moan about 'the wifi' but do they realise they're not talking about 'the wifi' but their mobile network data coverage?
Unless you're connecting to a Villa wifi network when you get to the ground, you're talking about the mobile data bandwidth at the ground, as provided by the mobile networks.
The reason it is shit is because, in an area where - say, on a normal week day - there might be 1,000 in radius of the mast in question, which works well, on match day there are 45,000 odd, and the bandwidth can not cope.
So it's fuck all to do with the club if it doesn't work very well, it is ALL on the mobile networks and nowt to do with 'wifi people'.
It’s them their Wi-Fi people I tell ya
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
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Will all be fingerprint access soon. Or some other digital crap where they can restrict the less fortunate
It won't be. But even so, how would this be any more restrictive to the less fortunate? Unless you're talking about people with no figures, which is a very niche part of society to be white knighting for.
Even my mate who hasn’t got many fingers has got some fingers. Me, another mate and him were taking shelter from a helluva storm once at work, and arguing over who should run to the coffee machine.
“We’ll play rock, paper, scissors to decide” I said, and off he trudged, like Captain Oates.
True story.
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
Is this why people on Twitter are always talking about the goat???
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(https://i.ibb.co/CJPPdYk/IMG-20230819-WA0003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CJPPdYk)
Nice gift from the club...kids was shite btw!
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My gift hasn't arrived . Pissed off as i had some notes to make today.
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
so their phone connection for data etc won't be good when Villa are at home . I bet that pisses them right off
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
so their phone connection for data etc won't be good when Villa are at home . I bet that pisses them right off
Hopefully they can connect their phones to their wifi if that’s an issue at home.
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My gift hasn't arrived . Pissed off as i had some notes to make today.
Very good. Made me smile
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
so their phone connection for data etc won't be good when Villa are at home . I bet that pisses them right off
Hopefully they can connect their phones to their wifi if that’s an issue at home.
so why cant we get powerful wifi in the ground so we can all do the same ?
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Anybody else find something like this hidden behind the notebook?
(https://i.ibb.co/9n5WWJQ/16924588714745495125743951288691.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9n5WWJQ)
It looks like it's been cut out from a posh greetings card. Odd.
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(https://i.ibb.co/CJPPdYk/IMG-20230819-WA0003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CJPPdYk)
Nice gift from the club...kids was shite btw!
Mine finally arrived today .Fully justifies the 50% hike in the price of my season ticket.
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No wonder they’re late arriving if we’re all getting personalised messages. Lucky you, mine will probably be something like “piss off you miserable old twat”.
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Mine said 'Fick errf, you sad paftic winker'.
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(https://i.ibb.co/CJPPdYk/IMG-20230819-WA0003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CJPPdYk)
Nice gift from the club...kids was shite btw!
Mine finally arrived today .Fully justifies the 50% hike in the price of my season ticket.
Yes indeed. I was almost in tears as I opened it, total emotional wreck. I feel as though I haven’t paid enough to deserve this.
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
Season card?? I just got the notepad, pen, key ring?
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Anybody else find something like this hidden behind the notebook?
(https://i.ibb.co/9n5WWJQ/16924588714745495125743951288691.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9n5WWJQ)
It looks like it's been cut out from a posh greetings card. Odd.
Yes, it said:
Roses are Red
Claret and Blue
You're too poor for the Holte
So fuck you!
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
If you mean season tickets, yes, ours arrived separately to the gift box
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
Season card?? I just got the notepad, pen, key ring?
I meant Season ticket which is a card. At least I know/think it might be on its way. In these times of tech taking the place of the written word I can’t see much point to the note book and pen as nice as they are.
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
Season card?? I just got the notepad, pen, key ring?
I meant Season ticket which is a card. At least I know/think it might be on its way. In these times of tech taking the place of the written word I can’t see much point to the note book and pen as nice as they are.
If you haven't received your ST yet you need to start chucking your toys out the pram. How did you get in against Everton?
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the season cards were sent out weeks ago
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Would that mean the local residents wifi goes down when villa are at home ?
No, it has absolutely nothing to do with Wifi.
It means that, if they are trying to use their phone mobile data connection, and sharing the same masts as the 42000 people next door to them for 90 minutes, they'll suffer the same problem.
Mobile networks are not designed for tens of thousands of people within a space a bit larger than a football pitch plus stands.
This is like any one of the 1000 times I've explained to my 83 year old father the difference between hard drive storage and RAM.
Even the concept of providing a WiFi service within the stadium for the numbers involved is almost impossible, due to how close large numbers are together.
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I received the gift pack earlier. No season card with it though??? Does that come separately?
Season card?? I just got the notepad, pen, key ring?
I meant Season ticket which is a card. At least I know/think it might be on its way. In these times of tech taking the place of the written word I can’t see much point to the note book and pen as nice as they are.
Got our season tickets weeks ago Bren.
I like and notepad, old fecker that I am….a quill and ink would of better!
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Bren, also got mine weeks ago with a note explaining that the gift box would be sent out separately and, I received that yesterday.
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Anybody else find something like this hidden behind the notebook?
(https://i.ibb.co/9n5WWJQ/16924588714745495125743951288691.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9n5WWJQ)
It looks like it's been cut out from a posh greetings card. Odd.
Yes, it said:
Roses are Red
Claret and Blue
You're too poor for the Holte
So fuck you!
This has cheered me up too.
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from the BBC
David Michael, My Old Man Said, external
It was business as usual as Aston Villa secured their eighth consecutive home league win against an Everton team that Unai Emery would have probably hand-picked, if he could have chosen a team to play to help get his side back on track.
While Villa looked slick on the pitch, off it, Villa supporters witnessed the surreal spectacle of velvet ropes, concierge staff and laminates in the Holte End on the first game back at Villa Park. For some, this ‘Terrace View’ hospitality offering was an unsavoury sight.
In football, it's long been tradition in football that the main "kop" end behind the goal drives the atmosphere and is the stand that guards the working-class soul of the game, as hospitality and upselling gradually infiltrate other areas. The Holte End once stood proudly as Europe's biggest single stand "kop" end and a cornerstone of Villa Park's identity and the club itself.
While the club's commercial team has used Premier League benchmarking to justify back-to-back sizeable ticket price increases, it failed to benchmark this particular initiative. The Kop at Anfield or the Gallowgate End at Newcastle, certainly wouldn't consider offering hospitality. Spurs built a new stadium and purposely avoided hospitality in the South Stand. Meanwhile, even Manchester United have recently admitted to the errors of their way, announcing plans to remove hospitality from the Stretford End.
This isn't a sentimental perspective - it's vital to preserving the atmosphere of Villa Park, which faces greater gentrification when the North Stand - that recently hosted the stadium's cheapest seats - is rebuilt with a focus on various hospitality options.
I'm certain Emery doesn't want to manage in the Premier League in front of an atmosphere resembling a library. He tried it once before, and that didn't go too well for him.
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
And if you don't tell them you get banned. Great.
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Imagine it's match day, a couple of hours before kick off, something happens in life so you can't go. You give it to your good mate that lives next door as he can't afford matches and you don't want your seat wasted. Club finds out, you are banned from Villa for a month. Yeah they can get to fuck.
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How will they check? ID people at the turnstile?
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Imagine it's match day, a couple of hours before kick off, something happens in life so you can't go. You give it to your good mate that lives next door as he can't afford matches and you don't want your seat wasted Club finds out, you are banned from Villa for a month. Yeah they can get to fuck.
That was my first thought too…if I know I am away weeks in advance wouldn’t have any problem doing it the clubs way but it’s sad if you fall sick on day of game and can’t let a mate cheers the team on…sure they won’t have anything in place for on the day changes
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
And if you don't tell them you get banned. Great.
Yep, I get that, but as demand grows, and tickets get moved on inappropriately, it helps to counteract it.
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How will they check? ID people at the turnstile?
Impossible at the minute unless they want to employ additional staff and I can't see fans being too kind to such people interrogating them with questions like.... the name of your first pet?
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Imagine it's match day, a couple of hours before kick off, something happens in life so you can't go. You give it to your good mate that lives next door as he can't afford matches and you don't want your seat wasted. Club finds out, you are banned from Villa for a month. Yeah they can get to fuck.
There's always an exception.
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My Season Ticket still hasn't arrived.
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My Season Ticket still hasn't arrived.
How did you get into the Everton game
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
what the process and how easy is it because I am still learning about the internet
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
what the process and how easy is it because I am still learning about the internet
As they failed to "activate" some season tickets for the first game against Everton, opening two windows at the ticket office near the Holte for us to queue at - lets not hold our breath that the club will get any technology to allow an easy transfer.
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
And if you don't tell them you get banned. Great.
Yep, I get that, but as demand grows, and tickets get moved on inappropriately, it helps to counteract it.
Counteract what? There's never been a problem with touting at Villa and there still isn't. This is additional control for the sake of it.
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Yeah, they can get to fuck with this shit.
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Just released on the site. All getting a bit draconian....
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
God forbid anyone should want to let their mate have a spare because they can't go.
To be fair, that can still happen, it's just that the Villa want to know about it?
And if you don't tell them you get banned. Great.
Yep, I get that, but as demand grows, and tickets get moved on inappropriately, it helps to counteract it.
Counteract what? There's never been a problem with touting at Villa and there still isn't. This is additional control for the sake of it.
The only thing I can think of is knowing who is who within the stadium in the event of, for example, racist chanting.
That’s all I can think of as a reason and even then it’s weak. As you say, smacks of control for the sake of it.
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They should just come out and say that they just want a ground full of tourists paying over the odds and be done with it. Wankers.
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Much like the away scheme, they're probably also looking at the risk of a closed shop (particularly when it comes to reduced capacity when the north stand goes). They'd want to both:
a) have something in place to ensure it isn't a closed shop and
b) at least have the punishments documented and communicated if they have suspicions about some repeat offenders using their reference to gain from the club and need to enforce them
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I have always felt that if I passed my ST onto someone, I would be responsible, to a certain extent, for their behaviour so would be careful who had it. I've only ever given it to mates and I don't think there is a problem here. Touting control I get, giving tickets to any Tom, Dick or away fan too but I would imagine that most ST holders are mindful.
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I don't think they will ever be able to catch out someone lending a ST to a mate, so long as it's not a concession. I can't ever see them asking home fans for ID. But they will catch people advertising their ticket on social media.
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Other clubs have asked for ID on season tickets - but before doing so had an amnesty (Liverpool , Man City) , as they realise tickets get passed down through generations.
They did this as they wanted to know who was in the ground on any given matchday for security reasons
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/290327-reds-outline-proposals-for-season-ticket-amnesty
“I must stress that this isn’t about taking season tickets away from supporters – we are aware that not all season tickets are held in the name of the supporter who attends the matches but this is about bringing our records up to date with the primary owner of the season ticket and providing updated contact details. We are also aware that the primary season ticket holder isn’t always able to attend the match and our ongoing discussions with this Fan Forum will include this point and how best to deal that.
A common sense approach - and completely different language used in its communications than from our lot.
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Are the ticket office staff all still working from home due to ‘Covid 19’?
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Are the ticket office staff all still working from home due to ‘Covid 19’?
Yes the only ticket office in the premiership that hasn't reopened.
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Do Box Holders have to tell the club who will be sitting in their hospitality area for any given game ? That's probably got a bigger turn around of unknown people attending than a season ticket holder who want to give their ticket to a family member when they can't attend ( something I've done occasionally, and not even thought about asking for any money) . Stuff like this really pisses me off.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/29/ticketing-regulations-for-2023-24/
What they have omitted is the corporate tickets which find 3rd party hands (talking about away games). Nothing will happen here as it is massive revenue.
There was a number of fans who were in Edinburgh and had tickets who do not attend every game. A few did get caught out apparently. Lets face it the whole ticket issue for all clubs now is a mess. Could get worse when Clubs decide no more £30/3,000 away fans.
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In these modern times I will always identify as the person whose name is on the ticket.
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The tone of this stuff annoys me.
Like we should basically consider the right to give them hundreds or thousands of pounds a year to be a god given gift they bestow on us at their leisure.
How quickly the tone changes from
decades of begging us to buy season tickets.
And all this wrapped up in language that makes it sound like we asked them for these rules rather than it being about income maximisation.
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I agree with the away tickets, if you can’t go, you shouldn’t still get a ticket and pass it on to keep your history up, just let it to the next eligible person in line
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Another very poor move by the off pitch side of the club. Treating us like children
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God forbid we ever fall on tough times on the playing side, and the waiting list disappears. They’d change the tone of their messages then.
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How will they check? ID people at the turnstile?
Wonder if they will use people grassing ? Bloke next to me has been after my seat for a while and I wouldn't put it past him ringing the club
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God forbid we ever fall on tough times on the playing side, and the waiting list disappears. They’d change the tone of their messages then.
They should look back a few years and see how quickly Randy Lerner's popularity evaporated.
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Couldn't give my ticket away when we were shit
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The tone of this stuff annoys me.
Like we should basically consider the right to give them hundreds or thousands of pounds a year to be a god given gift they bestow on us at their leisure.
How quickly the tone changes from
decades of begging us to buy season tickets.
And all this wrapped up in language that makes it sound like we asked them for these rules rather than it being about income maximisation.
This, in florescent 72 point bold font and flashing lights.
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Am I right in thinking that if I can't go and hand it to a mate, I have to notify the club as to who is using my ticket?
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Am I right in thinking that if I can't go and hand it to a mate, I have to notify the club as to who is using my ticket?
You’re supposed to but there’s no way on earth they can police it so quite frankly they can go fuck themselves.
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What makes me laugh is that I literally cannot give them my money at the moment as i'm unable to buy a claret membership through the website (because it's a complete piece of shit that has been hanging for me for weeks), meaning that i can't buy tickets with my own fan ID, and they have the cheek to come out with this arsiness?
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Is there a maximum amount of matches you can transfer the ticket? Not sure if I’ve made it up but upgrading from a concession to an adult had a limit.
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Is there a maximum amount of matches you can transfer the ticket? Not sure if I’ve made it up but upgrading from a concession to an adult had a limit.
I think selling ST back to the club was 5 max ?
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Am I right in thinking that if I can't go and hand it to a mate, I have to notify the club as to who is using my ticket?
You’re supposed to but there’s no way on earth they can police it so quite frankly they can go fuck themselves.
Exactly.
While there is no ID required at the turnstile then why bother telling them? Mine ( when I miss a game which is as rare as a positive Fred Flinstone post) goes to family for nowt. My mate next to me is battling a brain tumour and his situation is strictly match by match so he does the same, sometimes at the last minute.
A completely pointless press release.
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I cannot make Sunday games so will be passing on to friends / family
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Yep. If I can’t go, which is usually quite a lot early season , friends have mine for free.
They can’t police it.
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Yep. If I can’t go, which is usually quite a lot early season , friends have mine for free.
They can’t police it.
They could technically if they are going down that route .
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I don’t miss the bedrock bellyache, but in this instance I’d have agreed if he had been here* to post: “disgrace!.
*he’s not dead..(probably).
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
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They cant even employ enough staff who have the mental capacity and load to pour a pint at HT, so random spot checks on ST and seats are a pipe dream
Club off the pitch at the minute are so bloody detached from reality
Maybe just maybe, have a better functioning website to allow for fan id changes etc rather than phone lines that dont work!!
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They cant even employ enough staff who have the mental capacity and load to pour a pint at HT, so random spot checks on ST and seats are a pipe dream
Club off the pitch at the minute are so bloody detached from reality
Maybe just maybe, have a better functioning website to allow for fan id changes etc rather than phone lines that dont work!!
Absolutely right. That’s the obvious approach. Allow people to add friends and family online, and then season ticket holders can just reassign as and when.
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Maybe just maybe, have a better functioning website to allow for fan id changes etc rather than phone lines that dont work!!
This is one of my great bugbears of modern life. Companies that make it possible to do online, usually instantly, things that make them money but then force you to make a phone call for the bits that don’t, when there is absolutely no technical reason to do so.
For example, i had a newspaper subscription which I initially took out online in about thirty seconds.
Last week I wanted to cancel it and had to phone them to do so (sat in a queue for thirty minutes).
Genuinely, I think companies should be forced by law to not be able to have a deliberately frictional slow process to cancel or change a service that can be bought online entirely without friction.
Villa and their fucking resorting to phone lines are, I’m afraid, another cynical example of this.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Ah, Thatchers ID cards win at last.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
I think that was for the first few games back during the pandemic, when there was an application/ballot system for the few thousand let in.
Understandable at that time that the club needed to know who was in the ground
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
I think that was for the first few games back during the pandemic, when there was an application/ballot system for the few thousand let in.
Understandable at that time that the club needed to know who was in the ground
They still have my photo on there records,
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Am I right in thinking that if I can't go and hand it to a mate, I have to notify the club as to who is using my ticket?
Theoretically yes. In reality no.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
Nah, they're not going to pay for that. And the operators aren't going to scrutinise it like a passport either.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
I think that was for the first few games back during the pandemic, when there was an application/ballot system for the few thousand let in.
Understandable at that time that the club needed to know who was in the ground
They still have my photo on there records,
And mine.
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I really struggle getting up to midweek games so always ask my mates in Brum if they would like the use of my season ticket....I never ask for any money for it either.
UTV
The Doc
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I would imagine from next season we will be gaining access to the ground via an app on our phone (maybe a problem for me as I do not have a mobile phone!)
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Next there will be league bans for ST holders who don't go to Cup games. Like Utd do (or used to , not sure if they finally realised that was not a good approach)
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Brentford do this too.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
Nah, they're not going to pay for that. And the operators aren't going to scrutinise it like a passport either.
The staff struggle to open a bottle of pop or pour a beer from a can - checking photos vs what they have on record will be way beyond them.
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The investment to have digital imaging at the turnstiles is a way off I would have thought.
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
Nah, they're not going to pay for that. And the operators aren't going to scrutinise it like a passport either.
The staff struggle to open a bottle of pop or pour a beer from a can - checking photos vs what they have on record will be way beyond them.
& don’t forget the ‘Pat downs’ outside the turnstile, the single most pointless thing ever…would never locate a weapon/missile/flare in a million years
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Whilst not wishing to give the club ideas, the way to police it is to have all ST holders upload a photo of themselves and for that to flash up on screen for the turnstile operator to check when a card is used
Haven't they already done something similar? I'm sure I had to upload a photo not long ago....
Nah, they're not going to pay for that. And the operators aren't going to scrutinise it like a passport either.
The staff struggle to open a bottle of pop or pour a beer from a can - checking photos vs what they have on record will be way beyond them.
imagine the delays / queue lengths if they had to start checking / reading documentation etc
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Holte Suite not available again tomorrow. Now, I don't want to be cunty about it but I will. Would it be correct that ST were sold on the understanding that access would be available, but not guaranteed due to capacity, for this area? I can't be arsed to see if it is mentioned on the website but could there be a case of miss-selling here in that there is less available for a higher cost. Would they have to have pointed it out at the time of purchase?
This may sound rather nit picky and maybe even unnecessary but let's face facts, the Club are being like that so why the fuck shouldn't we?
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Next there will be league bans for ST holders who don't go to Cup games. Like Utd do (or used to , not sure if they finally realised that was not a good approach)
There was a mention of this for the Hibs home and away tickets, it says something like if you fail to attend this fixture it may impact on your ability to get tickets for later rounds.
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Next there will be league bans for ST holders who don't go to Cup games. Like Utd do (or used to , not sure if they finally realised that was not a good approach)
There was a mention of this for the Hibs home and away tickets, it says something like if you fail to attend this fixture it may impact on your ability to get tickets for later rounds.
Sure with Manchester United you got to join the cup scheme where you automatically get tickets,if you don't and reach the final, you are omitted, happened to a friend although they did email him very late on if he wanted a ticket for the final at £250 a ticket I think it was
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Holte Suite not available again tomorrow. Now, I don't want to be cunty about it but I will. Would it be correct that ST were sold on the understanding that access would be available, but not guaranteed due to capacity, for this area? I can't be arsed to see if it is mentioned on the website but could there be a case of miss-selling here in that there is less available for a higher cost. Would they have to have pointed it out at the time of purchase?
This may sound rather nit picky and maybe even unnecessary but let's face facts, the Club are being like that so why the fuck shouldn't we?
I think you may have a good point here . Whether the club will listen i doubt it. You'd probably need to go to Small Claims Court , Villa would lose and refund you and then probably give you a life ban.
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Brentford do this too.
Brentford's ground has a capacity of 17,000, a vast and wealthy population on their doorstep and the novelty of doing better than they've ever done before. They can racketeer away with the blessing of a big chunk of their crowds.
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Villa are so friendly and welcoming
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1697304289926873455
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Villa are so friendly and welcoming
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1697304289926873455
Word in the Lower Trinity is that there was some trouble earlier
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So, given the various discussions about tickets etc, I thought I'd check where I might be on the season ticket waiting list.
Last season in September I was emailed with my place on the waiting list but haven't had it yet for this. I was told by someone in the ticket office that they were going to do the same again this season, taking into consideration those who didn't want to renew/didn't take up the offer of a new season ticket and then update everyone. For whatever reason they've not done it yet for htis season so there's no update. All they could tell me was the date I was added to the list and when the list was started.
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Villa are rolling out digital season tickets.
Has anyone already had there's activated for a game or will tomorrow be the first one ?
I've already used a digital ticket for the Euro games, so I'm hopeful that it'll work ok (as long as people just tap the top of the ticket reader and don't try to put their phones into the slot)
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I had the email this morning and have added it to my wallet. I’m going straight from the airport, so have my season card with me just in case.
Seems a sensible idea to roll out though.
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All this seems to do is recreate attempts to try and get in the Smethwick End on the ocassions we play Sandwell. Everton was a joke and the European games create a huge queue as well.
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I've not had any e-mail as far as I know. I assume we can continue to use the cards for the rest of the season.
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All this seems to do is recreate attempts to try and get in the Smethwick End on the ocassions we play Sandwell. Everton was a joke and the European games create a huge queue as well.
I had no trouble at Everton going into the upper tier.
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Are they doing it for certain areas?
Upper Holte here, and I have had no electronic-mail notification.
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All this seems to do is recreate attempts to try and get in the Smethwick End on the ocassions we play Sandwell. Everton was a joke and the European games create a huge queue as well.
I had no trouble at Everton going into the upper tier.
I did as we became refugees for that match ;D
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Call me old school or paranoid, but it sounds like an attempt to limit the possibility of informally lending our ST cards to friends/family, if we can't make a home match?
Would like a reassurance that they're not scrapping cards.
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All this seems to do is recreate attempts to try and get in the Smethwick End on the ocassions we play Sandwell. Everton was a joke and the European games create a huge queue as well.
I had no trouble at Everton going into the upper tier.
I did as we became refugees for that match ;D
Ah sorry I was thinking of Everton away where we had NFC tickets.
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Call me old school or paranoid, but it sounds like an attempt to limit the possibility of informally lending our ST cards to friends/family, if we can't make a home match?
Would like a reassurance that they're not scrapping cards.
Not sure they can as not everyone has a smart phone
But you aren’t being paranoid, they absolutely don’t want people lending tickets or sharing tickets, they would rather resell tickets for full price and pocket the difference between season ticket rate and full match price
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Call me old school or paranoid, but it sounds like an attempt to limit the possibility of informally lending our ST cards to friends/family, if we can't make a home match?
Would like a reassurance that they're not scrapping cards.
Not sure they can as not everyone has a smart phone
But you aren’t being paranoid, they absolutely don’t want people lending tickets or sharing tickets, they would rather resell tickets for full price and pocket the difference between season ticket rate and full match price
You can contact the club and tell them you are passing your ticket on and they will send an email ticket to the person you’re passing it on to with no money changing hands. You only need to say that you are giving it (not selling it)
Of course, with the waiting list they may start to limit the number of times you can do this.
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All this seems to do is recreate attempts to try and get in the Smethwick End on the ocassions we play Sandwell. Everton was a joke and the European games create a huge queue as well.
I had no trouble at Everton going into the upper tier.
I did as we became refugees for that match ;D
Ah sorry I was thinking of Everton away where we had NFC tickets.
Oh☹️ Read properly next time (reminder to self)😂
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...anyhow, the digital ticket worked fine for me on Tuesday
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Call me old school or paranoid, but it sounds like an attempt to limit the possibility of informally lending our ST cards to friends/family, if we can't make a home match?
Would like a reassurance that they're not scrapping cards.
Not sure they can as not everyone has a smart phone
But you aren’t being paranoid, they absolutely don’t want people lending tickets or sharing tickets, they would rather resell tickets for full price and pocket the difference between season ticket rate and full match price
You can contact the club and tell them you are passing your ticket on and they will send an email ticket to the person you’re passing it on to with no money changing hands. You only need to say that you are giving it (not selling it)
Of course, with the waiting list they may start to limit the number of times you can do this.
You have to call - and as they are still "working at home due to covid" it takes an age to get through.
Shoudl be simple to do online... same for upgrading tickets - which you used to be able to do online - but they've shut that little glitch in the website now. And you can only do it 5 times per season apparently.
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You can do it online by emailing ticketsalesAF@avfc.co.uk
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When I bought my ticket for tonight, I selected the option to add it to my Season Card.
I'm not sure if it will also automatically appear in my Apple Wallet (I opted in to that last week - see above).
At the moment, there's no sign of anything Villa related in the Wallet.
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When I bought my ticket for tonight, I selected the option to add it to my Season Card.
I'm not sure if it will also automatically appear in my Apple Wallet (I opted in to that last week - see above).
At the moment, there's no sign of anything Villa related in the Wallet.
I’m going to be intrigued to see if it lets me in tonight. I’ve downloaded my Season Ticket to my AppleWallet and when purchasing my ticket for tonight chose the Upload to Card option so let’s see if it works. I’ll take my physical card as well to have as back up.
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Yep, I'll have the physical card and a print out of the email
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I didn't know you could add your ST to your apple wallet. Does that stop the card from working or can you use either? And how do you do it?
I noticed on the tickets section on the website, there's an option to 'forward' individual game tickets. What does this do?
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I received an email invite to add my card to the wallet. Clicked the link and the ticket was added for the Newcastle game.
However, after the game, the ST dropped from the wallet
Not sure if it stops the card working
EDIT - Just had a Twitter DM from AVFC support confirming that my ticket for tonight will be available via both the physical card and digital wallet
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Thats pretty good. I wouldn't mind the tickets on my phone as back up just in case I forget my card one week.
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Leeds are introducing a new policy where they won't invite ST holders to renew if they don't come to 80% of matches or more;
https://theathletic.com/5308268/2024/03/01/leeds-season-tickets-elland-road/ (https://theathletic.com/5308268/2024/03/01/leeds-season-tickets-elland-road/)
"United consistently register sell-outs at home and have a season-ticket waiting list in excess of 20,000 for their 36,000-capacity stadium."
"Despite the overwhelming demand for tickets, season-ticket holders not attending matches at Elland Road is still a problem as it detracts from our legendary atmosphere that is vital to the teams’ performance..."
"Season-ticket holders must attend 80 per cent of the home league games at Elland Road or they will not be invited to renew for the following season."
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Leeds are introducing a new policy where they won't invite ST holders to renew if they don't come to 80% of matches or more;
I think Arsenal are doing something similar.
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In PL they’ll lose tickets if don’t go to 4 games a season then…plenty can’t do evenings or Sundays or Christmas period or have holidays or get stuck in traffic…pretty OTT.
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I'm assuming they have a ticket resale or trade scheme, like we do. Maybe if you make your ticket available when you can't go it takes it off the calculation? If they want to make sure the seats don't remain empty, that would help encourage returns.
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Brentford do it too.
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I’m not sure why this is such an issue if fans can pass tickets back to clubs for re-sale. They allow TV to dictate kick off times for millions of pounds per game and should be more tolerant of fans who find personal arrangements clash. One day maybe, supply will outstrip demand.
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Just give the ticket to a mate and bollocks to the resale, job done.
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Just give the ticket to a mate and bollocks to the resale, job done.
This.
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What a load of shite. What about a spell of illness for you or a dependent? Holidays, last minute fixture changes, work commitments, transport issues, religious holidays, weddings, christenings, anniversaries, funerals, birthdays, or perhaps you're an older person who might miss a few games due to the fucking freezing fucking temperatures?
I know it won't affect that many people in the grand scheme of things but I just hate the contempt in which fans are held these days, "if you don't we'll punish you"
Fuck off.
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Is it just because people who don't attend can't buy beer and pies? because that stuff about atmosphere is hogwash.
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Leeds are introducing a new policy where they won't invite ST holders to renew if they don't come to 80% of matches or more;
https://theathletic.com/5308268/2024/03/01/leeds-season-tickets-elland-road/ (https://theathletic.com/5308268/2024/03/01/leeds-season-tickets-elland-road/)
"United consistently register sell-outs at home and have a season-ticket waiting list in excess of 20,000 for their 36,000-capacity stadium."
"Despite the overwhelming demand for tickets, season-ticket holders not attending matches at Elland Road is still a problem as it detracts from our legendary atmosphere that is vital to the teams’ performance..."
"Season-ticket holders must attend 80 per cent of the home league games at Elland Road or they will not be invited to renew for the following season."
My dad has had to re-sell his season ticket seat for most of this season due to being unable to attend due to cancer and I have sold mine for quite a few games to watch games with him on TV. I am already expecting renewal issues because our seats are in a "prime position" to be turned into padded or corporate seats but if this happened too, I will be absolutely spitting blood having had those exact seats since 2011 and being season ticket holders for years before that.
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Now having actually read the article, it says "Individual matches will count towards the 80 per cent cut-off if holders attend in person, use the club’s ticket-forwarding scheme to allow friends of family to take their seat or put their ticket up for resale via Leeds’ ticket exchange." so I'm spitting less blood now and maybe I should have read it before posting.
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Now having actually read the article, it says "Individual matches will count towards the 80 per cent cut-off if holders attend in person, use the club’s ticket-forwarding scheme to allow friends of family to take their seat or put their ticket up for resale via Leeds’ ticket exchange." so I'm spitting less blood now and maybe I should have read it before posting.
Of that ticket forwarding thing for friends and family sounds a good idea.
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Sorry to hear about you dad, dalians umbrella. I wish you all the best for the future.
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Sorry to hear about you dad, dalians umbrella. I wish you all the best for the future.
Thanks Olaftab - much appreciated.
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So sorry mate, I went through the same with my Dad a few years ago.
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So sorry mate, I went through the same with my Dad a few years ago.
Thank you and sorry to hear you had to go through it too.
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Just give the ticket to a mate and bollocks to the resale, job done.
100%
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All the best to you and your dad mate, tell him the H&V massive is rooting for him.
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All the best to you and your dad mate, tell him the H&V massive is rooting for him.
Thank you I will!
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Just give the ticket to a mate and bollocks to the resale, job done.
100%
I’ve never considered the resale option. It always goes to a friend or a friend of a friend.
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Just had email from AVFC about downloading my digital season ticket to apple wallet, an attempt by Heck to stop those who cannot attend some matches giving their ticket to mates?
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Just had email from AVFC about downloading my digital season ticket to apple wallet, an attempt by Heck to stop those who cannot attend some matches giving their ticket to mates?
yes you have to sell back to Heck at discounted price an let him cream another 20% off
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Just had email from AVFC about downloading my digital season ticket to apple wallet, an attempt by Heck to stop those who cannot attend some matches giving their ticket to mates?
I've had the same. While I'm all for new tech in general, my phone is over six years old and the battery seems to be less robust than before. So it's a no from me.
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Just had email from AVFC about downloading my digital season ticket to apple wallet, an attempt by Heck to stop those who cannot attend some matches giving their ticket to mates?
I've had the same. While I'm all for new tech in general, my phone is over six years old and the battery seems to be less robust than before. So it's a no from me.
I’ll download it as back up to my actual card, in case I lose it or leave it at home, but to be fair, regardless of battery life, I do usually have plenty of battery left at the point in the day when I’m going into Villa Park.
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It’s telling my 5 year old to upload it to his phone.
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Facial recognition will be coming to a turnstile by you.
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Facial recognition will be coming to a turnstile by you.
With or without beard and eye patch???
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So Im being dense, and having just turned 50, I think I’m entitled to a degree of technophobia.
I have a digital id, which mine and both my kids fan ids are attached to. Im presuming that Ill only be allowed to attach my own digital season ticket to my digital id and not there’s?
Its Friday, after another 50 odd hour week at work, Im drinking beer next to my woodburner, and I just do not have the will to work this out for myself
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Spurs are are phasing out the OAP discount from next season on season tickets and match tickets
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Spurs are are phasing out the OAP discount from next season on season tickets and match tickets
As is the Arse.
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When do we think they'll announce the prices?
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It was April last year.
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If we do qualify for Champions League next season beware!!
Knowing Villa they will justify another huge season ticket price hike because of qualification. Sadly, having had a season ticket, all through the bad times as well, another huge hike will probably see me having to give it up, as I’m sure it will for many other loyal supporters, or customers, as the Club would prefer to call us.
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With all comparisons of turnover v big 6 plus spurs and toon and how far behind we are, I’m expecting ST at least 10% increase plus the extra 2500 seats they’re talking about
We’re just never going to compete otherwise
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The Supporters Trust are saying they have a meeting with Club on 26 March to discuss ticket pricing
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The Supporters Trust are saying they have a meeting with Club on 26 March to discuss ticket pricing
And I’m sure much ‘discussing’ will be done. :-X
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The Club will already know how much the increases are going to be so, doubt much discussion with fan group, other than a bit of lip service.
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It’ll be what it’ll be, but I’m expecting a double digit percentage increase.
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Was told last night by someone who works at the club in the finance department it is going to be 20% increase
My comment was is that if we get in the Champions league? they did not reply!!!
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Was told last night by someone who works at the club in the finance department it is going to be 20% increase
My comment was is that if we get in the Champions league? they did not reply!!!
Twenty percent!? My calculator doesn't even go that high.
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Was told last night by someone who works at the club in the finance department it is going to be 20% increase
My comment was is that if we get in the Champions league? they did not reply!!!
Drip Drip. So when it's "only" 12% we're all grateful.
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See Liverpool fans protesting about a 2% increase for their season tickets!!
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wasn't our announcement due last week ?
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Heck's going to announce it on the pitch at half-time!
Seriously though, if Liverpool are protesting about a 2% increase, would we make any fuss over 10%, 15% or even 20%?
Arsenal and Spurs have announced 5% or so, I suppose our rise will be seen as "catching up".
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I was telling a bloke at work that me and the kids are around 37,000th on the waiting list. (We were at 29,000 but had to drop to the bottom this season to add a newly-interested 13 year old). The bloke I was talking to has joined since and he’s about 45,000th.
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Surprised they haven't started charging £100 just to be on the list. Yet......
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I'm concerned about membership...
Habing spoken to a bloke who supports Newcastle, he's a member (having had to give up his season ticket a couple of years ago) and doesn't even get preference on tickets, but instead goes into a ballot and doesn't often get through.
I can imagine that's what the Villa will do next.
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The club are certainly not doing a great job with regards to tickets. It sounds like we have more on the waiting list than actually attend matches. So, the big question is, why do we not sell out our matches??
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The club are certainly not doing a great job with regards to tickets. It sounds like we have more on the waiting list than actually attend matches. So, the big question is, why do we not sell out our matches??
Isn't that down to tickets being held back for TV/LG, no take up and then being made available at very late notice?
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The club are certainly not doing a great job with regards to tickets. It sounds like we have more on the waiting list than actually attend matches. So, the big question is, why do we not sell out our matches??
Isn't that down to tickets being held back for TV/LG, no take up and then being made available at very late notice?
I think that summarises it quite nicely.
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Agree with you both…it’s a really shocking way for the club to behave. There are people wanting tickets but, yet they don’t put up tickets for re-sale!!
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The ST waiting list is a bit of a myth. It has tonnes of duplicates on it and also has quite a number who live abroad. So realistically are they going to purchase even if given a sniff?
The rumoured figure of true list is approx 12k
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Liverpool only have 27k season tickets, I read. That’s quite a low proportion but then they get to make more money of day-trippers, tourists etc.
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The club are certainly not doing a great job with regards to tickets. It sounds like we have more on the waiting list than actually attend matches. So, the big question is, why do we not sell out our matches??
Isn't that down to tickets being held back for TV/LG, no take up and then being made available at very late notice?
I think that summarises it quite nicely.
There are 2 TV seats next to me in the UH and they have been sold for every game, and to Villa fans apart from the Newton Heath game. I guessed they were interlopers but the one next to me was a ringer for, and the same size as the Beast off of The Chase so at that point I decided to live and let live...
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When is the ST announcement ?
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I know, they're leaving the 'early bird' window a bit late.
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When is the ST announcement ?
No idea
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Club may be waiting to see if we get past Lille so they can raise our expectations and their prices!!
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Club may be waiting to see if we get past Lille so they can raise our expectations and their prices!!
Yeah all about timing and picking the right moment to land the news .
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
Ill be assuming thats on the assumption they stay up. Putting it up that much in championship seems abig ridiculous
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
JFC. Their fans are fuming.
(https://i.ibb.co/tMtdzzt/image.png) (https://ibb.co/tMtdzzt)
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Anyone else being blocked from reselling their ST on the website ?
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
JFC. Their fans are fuming.
(https://i.ibb.co/tMtdzzt/image.png) (https://ibb.co/tMtdzzt)
Ludicrous timing, a few days before they pay Everton in one the biggest games they’ve played in this league for decades they choose to annoy their own fans
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Anyone else being blocked from reselling their ST on the website ?
What do you mean? The option is still there under my account, but don't want to click it.
Or do you mean they are not actually putting them up for resale because they seem to have changed policy and wont resell when LG / TV are still available?
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Anyone else being blocked from reselling their ST on the website ?
What do you mean? The option is still there under my account, but don't want to click it.
Or do you mean they are not actually putting them up for resale because they seem to have changed policy and wont resell when LG / TV are still available?
Might be my system settings when i click to list ticket it blocks me saying their system thinks i'm a Bot
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Anyone else being blocked from reselling their ST on the website ?
What do you mean? The option is still there under my account, but don't want to click it.
Or do you mean they are not actually putting them up for resale because they seem to have changed policy and wont resell when LG / TV are still available?
Might be my system settings when i click to list ticket it blocks me saying their system thinks i'm a Bot
OK, sorry can't help with that one.
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Anyone else being blocked from reselling their ST on the website ?
What do you mean? The option is still there under my account, but don't want to click it.
Or do you mean they are not actually putting them up for resale because they seem to have changed policy and wont resell when LG / TV are still available?
Might be my system settings when i click to list ticket it blocks me saying their system thinks i'm a Bot
To be fair, we had similar concerns for a while. ;)
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
JFC. Their fans are fuming.
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A quarter rise is outrageous!! I really hope we dont follow suit
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
JFC. Their fans are fuming.
(https://i.ibb.co/tMtdzzt/image.png) (https://ibb.co/tMtdzzt)
A quarter rise is outrageous!! I really hope we dont follow suit
Still not bad though compared to other premier league teams
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Just read that Forest have announced a 24% increase in their season tickets for next season
JFC. Their fans are fuming.
(https://i.ibb.co/tMtdzzt/image.png) (https://ibb.co/tMtdzzt)
A quarter rise is outrageous!! I really hope we dont follow suit
Still not bad though compared to other premier league teams
They might not be a Premier League team for long though.
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Still cheaper than ours in every category (runs and hides)
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At the end of last month, the Daily Mail published an article about season tickets. where they say clubs would like to get rid of them and sell tickets at full price each week, for which you would pay a membership fee in advance for the privilege of being considered for a ticket.
I did originally post the full text but as it's behind a pay-wall, I then got slightly paranoid and deleted it.
Here is a link instead:
https://archive.ph/fsOSD
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
You are Chris Heck and I claim my £5 reward
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
You are Chris Heck and I claim my £5 reward
The reward is only available to those with a full-season Lower Grounds booking history, c*** sucker! *
* For the avoidance of doubt, a Chris Heck joke and not an insult of another poster.
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Sad the way Football is going but can't say we haven't been warned in the last 20 years.
Years back breaking the 500 quid bracket was seen as extortionate and think I had a season ticket at 350 odd quid but again that was in the mid 2000s!
Almost like that covid season with no crowds never happened although clubs probably wouldn't care with the TV money coming in still.
One thing I would say is we need to keep around the top 6-7 for as long as possible as I don't think we have the sort of fanbase that will keep turning up to pay these prices during a summer if we look like we're on the decline again. Also don't have the tourism support to replace them apart from 4-5 games a season.
The Everton game in the league cup this season was a great example of what happens when the club misprice a game. Was barely 30k in for that and 5k of them were Everton fans.
At least they learnt that lesson for the Chelsea FA cup match and our prices for the knock out Europa games have really surprised me, wouldn't have had an issue with them charging prem prices for Olympiakos as we don't play SFs at VP very often.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
There was due to be a Fan Advisory Board meeting on this a couple of weeks ago, but it was cancelled by the club the day before.
I suspect you are correct......
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
There was due to be a Fan Advisory Board meeting on this a couple of weeks ago, but it was cancelled by the club the day before.
I suspect you are correct......
It was rescheduled for yesterday.
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We're gonna get ripped off. If the ST Incease is less than 10% we'll be grateful, won't we? No.
Heck off with your American pricing models, your posh seats at the expense of loyal, long-time supporters - NOT customers!
We should be against all of this bullshit - FANS FIRST!!
Rant over....for now
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Everton was 23000 with 5000 of them.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
same as me , we must be sat pretty close , we're bang on the halfway line . Our seats are prime padded chair / carpet territory .
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
same as me , we must be sat pretty close , we're bang on the halfway line . Our seats are prime padded chair / carpet territory .
You’re not the guy who shouts “stick your whistle up your arse and then blow it! “ are you?
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
same as me , we must be sat pretty close , we're bang on the halfway line . Our seats are prime padded chair / carpet territory .
You’re not the guy who shouts “stick your whistle up your arse and then blow it! “ are you?
Do you sit anywhere near the lad who reaches over and pours his own pints on the concourse .
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I’ve not seen that unless he is behind me.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
same as me , we must be sat pretty close , we're bang on the halfway line . Our seats are prime padded chair / carpet territory .
You’re not the guy who shouts “stick your whistle up your arse and then blow it! “ are you?
Do you sit anywhere near the lad who reaches over and pours his own pints on the concourse .
He must have long arms.
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If you mention reacharounds in the Witton, FV will be along complaining about the smut.
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If you mention reacharounds in the Witton, FV will be along complaining about the smut.
Surely that would be a GA+ offering?
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If you mention reacharounds in the Witton, FV will be along complaining about the smut.
Surely that would be a GA+ offering?
Haha . The catering is so shambolic where we are that improvisation methods evolved .
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
I think there's a fair chance - there is a lounge in that stand that has been free to all in the past, it was 'closed for construction' last game - I guarantee they're going to start charging for use of it ....
The only reason I bought anything was due to being able to use that lounge, forget the concourse.
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
I think there's a fair chance - there is a lounge in that stand that has been free to all in the past, it was 'closed for construction' last game - I guarantee they're going to start charging for use of it ....
The only reason I bought anything was due to being able to use that lounge, forget the concourse.
The Lions Club ? That was a decent little bolt hole pre-game and at HT . Yeah thats going to be the lounge for the corporate seats that are surely coming to the Witton middle ?
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Is there any update on ST prices ? Cynic says they are waiting for confirmation of Champions League qualification before deciding on % hikes and landing the news . Brace yourselves .
I've got myself so wound up that my seat will be taken off me and turned into a half-way line experience package that I'll probably just pay anything, sadly, if the option to renew is there.
Are you on the Witton side ?
Yes. Upper Witton on the halfway line. I'm clinging onto the hope that not being able to go to the toilet at half-time will prohibit a premium experience.
I think there's a fair chance - there is a lounge in that stand that has been free to all in the past, it was 'closed for construction' last game - I guarantee they're going to start charging for use of it ....
The only reason I bought anything was due to being able to use that lounge, forget the concourse.
The Lions Club ? That was a decent little bolt hole pre-game and at HT . Yeah thats going to be the lounge for the corporate seats that are surely coming to the Witton middle ?
I think it's called the David Targett lounge? Around the half way line, down one flight of stairs (If you're in the upper).
Things like this wouldn't annoy me if the basic level was an acceptable standard, fine let people pay for premium experience. But if you can't even get a bottle of water at half time without buying GA+ it's not really on.
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According to this article, the David Targett Lounge was converted into a community space in 2019:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/09/19/community-project-to-transform-villa-park-suite
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According to this article, the David Targett Lounge was converted into a community space in 2019:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/09/19/community-project-to-transform-villa-park-suite
Money talks - the local community group will be evicted like the season ticket holders.
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According to this article, the David Targett Lounge was converted into a community space in 2019:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/09/19/community-project-to-transform-villa-park-suite
Yeah that's in there too at the other side, but there's also a bar which is available at half time - with seats / tables etc.
I'm sure they'll be fine kicking community and fan groups alike if they're not cost effective.
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Someone mentioned earlier something about more or redesigned boxes in the Witton which is going to impact seats . Not seen anything official though .
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On the subject of 'supposed demand' for season tickets, I have a question for anyone that knows a little more how this works?
Against the 'bigger teams' (*in Sky's opinion at least), I've spotted an increasing number of opposition fans in the Upper Trinity in the last couple of seasons - This one especially. My patience ran out against Chelsea the other night.
I could spot them a mile off, with about 6 half n half scarf wearing twats on my row alone. Most of my row had vacated by the time Chelsea scored the later disallowed third, and I happened to glance to the side of me to see one of them filming the away fans and smirking his head off. I 'politely' told him he was in the wrong stand, and I'd recommend he vacate his seat immediately and go forth and multiply, which he dutifully obliged.
My question is, if we have such a demand for home game tickets, how are opposition fans able to gain entry to home areas of Villa Park in such high numbers.... because there is fuck all policing going on and it's going to end in trouble one of these days.
Yes, the football is great, and we need to bring in money to allow us to compete... but it's ripping the very heart out of our club. Lifelong fans who would usually be sat in those seats and vocally support the team are no longer able to afford it, and have been replaced by daytrippers and even worse, opposition fans. It's shite. VERY shite!
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There was some no mark Chelsea fan sat in front of us. Despite the pleas from the two blokes he was with, one of whom I assumed was his dad, he couldn't keep his mouth shut or his hands down, so he was politely ordered out during the second half.
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On the subject of 'supposed demand' for season tickets, I have a question for anyone that knows a little more how this works?
Against the 'bigger teams' (*in Sky's opinion at least), I've spotted an increasing number of opposition fans in the Upper Trinity in the last couple of seasons - This one especially. My patience ran out against Chelsea the other night.
I could spot them a mile off, with about 6 half n half scarf wearing twats on my row alone. Most of my row had vacated by the time Chelsea scored the later disallowed third, and I happened to glance to the side of me to see one of them filming the away fans and smirking his head off. I 'politely' told him he was in the wrong stand, and I'd recommend he vacate his seat immediately and go forth and multiply, which he dutifully obliged.
My question is, if we have such a demand for home game tickets, how are opposition fans able to gain entry to home areas of Villa Park in such high numbers.... because there is fuck all policing going on and it's going to end in trouble one of these days.
Yes, the football is great, and we need to bring in money to allow us to compete... but it's ripping the very heart out of our club. Lifelong fans who would usually be sat in those seats and vocally support the team are no longer able to afford it, and have been replaced by daytrippers and even worse, opposition fans. It's shite. VERY shite!
It is. It will be looked at when it undoubtedly kicks off when they have such a blaze approach to who ends up with home ticket areas. The club will be embarrassed and outraged. Any trouble or incident will be all of their own making.
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Now I come to think of it, I've noticed different people sitting in front of us more often this season.
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It must be related to the Terrace View/Lower Grounds tickets.
Basically if you stump up extra cash we'll look the other way regarding your allegience.
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On the subject of 'supposed demand' for season tickets, I have a question for anyone that knows a little more how this works?
Against the 'bigger teams' (*in Sky's opinion at least), I've spotted an increasing number of opposition fans in the Upper Trinity in the last couple of seasons - This one especially. My patience ran out against Chelsea the other night.
I could spot them a mile off, with about 6 half n half scarf wearing twats on my row alone. Most of my row had vacated by the time Chelsea scored the later disallowed third, and I happened to glance to the side of me to see one of them filming the away fans and smirking his head off. I 'politely' told him he was in the wrong stand, and I'd recommend he vacate his seat immediately and go forth and multiply, which he dutifully obliged.
My question is, if we have such a demand for home game tickets, how are opposition fans able to gain entry to home areas of Villa Park in such high numbers.... because there is fuck all policing going on and it's going to end in trouble one of these days.
Yes, the football is great, and we need to bring in money to allow us to compete... but it's ripping the very heart out of our club. Lifelong fans who would usually be sat in those seats and vocally support the team are no longer able to afford it, and have been replaced by daytrippers and even worse, opposition fans. It's shite. VERY shite!
Was this part of the Lower Grounds allocated seats?
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I’ve still not worked out where the LG/TV allocated seats are. I sit in A2 and there are supposedly plenty of them a bit further back from where I sit but tbh I’m usually far too engrossed in the game to worry about who’s sitting where. As ever the usual rules apply if you’re an away fan in a home section, sit down, shut up and watch the match.
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Yeah, A2 and P2 I think.
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It must be related to the Terrace View/Lower Grounds tickets.
Basically if you stump up extra cash we'll look the other way regarding your allegience.
I've got a feeling you can go on the website, create an account and get a Lower Grounds ticket with no history. Not sure about the TV ones, I think you have to contact the club about those if you want one.
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On the subject of 'supposed demand' for season tickets, I have a question for anyone that knows a little more how this works?
Against the 'bigger teams' (*in Sky's opinion at least), I've spotted an increasing number of opposition fans in the Upper Trinity in the last couple of seasons - This one especially. My patience ran out against Chelsea the other night.
I could spot them a mile off, with about 6 half n half scarf wearing twats on my row alone. Most of my row had vacated by the time Chelsea scored the later disallowed third, and I happened to glance to the side of me to see one of them filming the away fans and smirking his head off. I 'politely' told him he was in the wrong stand, and I'd recommend he vacate his seat immediately and go forth and multiply, which he dutifully obliged.
My question is, if we have such a demand for home game tickets, how are opposition fans able to gain entry to home areas of Villa Park in such high numbers.... because there is fuck all policing going on and it's going to end in trouble one of these days.
Yes, the football is great, and we need to bring in money to allow us to compete... but it's ripping the very heart out of our club. Lifelong fans who would usually be sat in those seats and vocally support the team are no longer able to afford it, and have been replaced by daytrippers and even worse, opposition fans. It's shite. VERY shite!
Was this part of the Lower Grounds allocated seats?
Nope. I’m in A5…. In amongst season ticket holders, they are just general admission tickets.
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I have 2 x TV seats next to me in the UH, always populated by Villa fans (some repeat attendees) but there were 2 Newton Heath fans in there for that game, surprise surprise.
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I think it's a pretty much accepted thing at these new grounds with huge corporate areas that away fans/trippers are often in those "home" areas.
At Arse the other week for example I was the guest of my son-in-law to be who has a season ticket in their club level (the bot all around the middle tier) and he had swapped with the guy who site next to him for Newcastle game, so he took me to Villa, other guy took his mate to Newcastle. I did a little ooh which gave myself away when Ollie hit the post, but everyone around was cool about it and I even had a good chat with the person on the other side about our respective seasons etc.
The problem is, the seats attached to our premium offerings are mixed in all over the ground. I'd never go as an away fan in the traditional "home" ends or if I did I'd keep silent.
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The one next to me looked like that big fucker off of the Chase so although I sniffed them out almost immediately, I just got one with watching the game. They reacted when NH scored so some of the more outspoken ST holders had them thrown out.
We struggle to meet up for a drink post match now the Suite is not open to ST holders, and I know it's not quite the case but it feels like it's been taken away from Villa fans to accommodate glory hunting fans of other clubs because they have more money.
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
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According to this article, the David Targett Lounge was converted into a community space in 2019:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/09/19/community-project-to-transform-villa-park-suite
Money talks - the local community group will be evicted like the season ticket holders.
Do they still use it? This article was from 2018.
I'd say if there's unused space or underused space in the Witton then it absolutely makes sense to make commercial use from it when we have such a lack of space in the stadium. Obviously, it would probably be better used as overspill w/c's and catering for the chronically underpar concourse, but if it becomes premium space then so long as they're not reducing the current facilities then so be it.
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
Tbf you can do that at most clubs.
Not really much you can do how do you prove someone is a fan of that respected club. Obviously if they will get banned if found out. But its their money if they want to waste money on a villa membership that will just benefit our club if they dont support villa
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Didn't Man United do something against Galatasaray this season whereby they declared several blocks of home seating as 'hospitality' seats and then sold them to Galatasaray fans, gave them hospitality lanyards and sent them to sit amongst the home fans?
I recall seeing a few youtube videos of Man U fans pointing them out and getting very angry. It wasn't just a few away fans, either, there were hundreds of them.
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Didn't Man United do something against Galatasaray this season whereby they declared several blocks of home seating as 'hospitality' seats and then sold them to Galatasaray fans, gave them hospitality lanyards and sent them to sit amongst the home fans?
I recall seeing a few youtube videos of Man U fans pointing them out and getting very angry. It wasn't just a few away fans, either, there were hundreds of them.
The irony. Fun to see them as also-rans these days, despite us doing our best to help them out this season.
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
Tbf you can do that at most clubs.
Not really much you can do how do you prove someone is a fan of that respected club. Obviously if they will get banned if found out. But its their money if they want to waste money on a villa membership that will just benefit our club if they dont support villa
When I lived in the North West, I wanted to go to a Preston game and for some reason picked the game against West Brom. I had to do a quiz about PNE to be allowed to get a ticket and obviously failed. I don’t know whether they always do that or whether it was my Midlands accent making them think I was an away fan. I got a mate who was a fan of theirs to book it for me. Nice change to go to a game in the sun and not really give a shit about who won.
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
Tbf you can do that at most clubs.
Not really much you can do how do you prove someone is a fan of that respected club. Obviously if they will get banned if found out. But its their money if they want to waste money on a villa membership that will just benefit our club if they dont support villa
When I lived in the North West, I wanted to go to a Preston game and for some reason picked the game against West Brom. I had to do a quiz about PNE to be allowed to get a ticket and obviously failed. I don’t know whether they always do that or whether it was my Midlands accent making them think I was an away fan. I got a mate who was a fan of theirs to book it for me. Nice change to go to a game in the sun and not really give a shit about who won.
Can you inagine if a blue nose had to do that to get a ticket in our home end? They'd piss the quiz easily.
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
Tbf you can do that at most clubs.
Not really much you can do how do you prove someone is a fan of that respected club. Obviously if they will get banned if found out. But its their money if they want to waste money on a villa membership that will just benefit our club if they dont support villa
When I lived in the North West, I wanted to go to a Preston game and for some reason picked the game against West Brom. I had to do a quiz about PNE to be allowed to get a ticket and obviously failed. I don’t know whether they always do that or whether it was my Midlands accent making them think I was an away fan. I got a mate who was a fan of theirs to book it for me. Nice change to go to a game in the sun and not really give a shit about who won.
Can you inagine if a blue nose had to do had get a ticket in our home end? They'd piss the quiz easily.
First question would be "What is Aston Villa famous for"bluenose answer "Full of DVB's"correct answer you have just got a ticket
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There's also nothing to stop an away supporter from buying a Villa membership and buying a ticket that way.
I thought that when we play the “big” clubs - Liverpool and Man United - to get a home ticket you have to be a member and have a record of attending/buying a ticket for at least one other home game? Could be wrong
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I have had membership of Reading FC for years. It's free, and doesn't have to be renewed.
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Still no news of ST prices for next season.
I'm guessing 2 tier Season Tickets if we get Champions league.
Missed the early bird window anyway.
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
It is also possible that they could include the 4 CL games as option for a very reasonable price if we qualify.
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Unlikely but possible depending on who we draw in the 4 CL matches
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Unlikely but possible depending on who we draw in the 4 CL matches
But we will know we have 4 home games so it’s easy to include with or without
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
It is also possible that they could include the 4 CL games as option for a very reasonable price if we qualify.
That's what I think they will do
Premier ST
Premier+CL ... ,+£200
Season Tickets anything from £700 - £1200
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
It is also possible that they could include the 4 CL games as option for a very reasonable price if we qualify.
That's what I think they will do
Premier ST
Premier+CL ... ,+£200
Season Tickets anything from £700 - £1200
Why, though?
I think they’d be confident of selling out the Champions League matches regardless, so why add them on to the season ticket when traditionally you expect to save money with one?
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Heck is clearly waiting to see if we qualify for Champions League to see how far he can exploit the fanbase . If we make it , strap the fuck in i'm expecting 20% hikes .
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
It is also possible that they could include the 4 CL games as option for a very reasonable price if we qualify.
That's what I think they will do
Premier ST
Premier+CL ... ,+£200
Season Tickets anything from £700 - £1200
Why, though?
I think they’d be confident of selling out the Champions League matches regardless, so why add them on to the season ticket when traditionally you expect to save money with one?
I could not think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t do it.
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No way , ECL tickets will be standalone purchases. And they'll be pricey .
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I could not think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t do it.
You can’t think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t discount 25k tickets for four games they are going to sell anyway?
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If they were not including CL as part of a possible ST package , they would've released details by now.
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If they were not including CL as part of a possible ST package , they would've released details by now.
Not necessarily…’if’ it’s big hikes then wait until you can’t cause disharmony whilst you want fans behind you to get 4th etc
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What I was trying to say was, I think CL tickets will be stand alone because if we get pitted against some big guns, Heck will want to charge as much as possible for those matches. I may be wrong but, I doubt they will do a package like they did with the conference league.
Like Newcastle we may not repeat this feat next season so the club will want to maximise profits whilst they can. Let’s wait and see.
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What I was trying to say was, I think CL tickets will be stand alone because if we get pitted against some big guns, Heck will want to charge as much as possible for those matches. I may be wrong but, I doubt they will do a package like they did with the conference league.
Like Newcastle we may not repeat this feat next season so the club will want to maximise profits whilst they can. Let’s wait and see.
Yep, this would make sense.
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Americans love dynamic pricing on tickets . Draw a big gun then yeah you'll pay through the nose to be there .
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Heck is clearly waiting to see if we qualify for Champions League to see how far he can exploit the fanbase . If we make it , strap the fuck in i'm expecting 20% hikes .
And you'll be wrong.
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If they were not including CL as part of a possible ST package , they would've released details by now.
Even though we haven’t qualified for the CL.
They could look a bit stupid, don’t you think.
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I could not think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t do it.
You can’t think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t discount 25k tickets for four games they are going to sell anyway?
Who said anything about discount, and you don’t think being paid in advance is good business? let alone removing a lot of the cost of selling individual tickets.
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What I was trying to say was, I think CL tickets will be stand alone because if we get pitted against some big guns, Heck will want to charge as much as possible for those matches. I may be wrong but, I doubt they will do a package like they did with the conference league.
Like Newcastle we may not repeat this feat next season so the club will want to maximise profits whilst they can. Let’s wait and see.
Yep, this would make sense.
No it wouldn’t, take a look at the new CL format.
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No way , ECL tickets will be standalone purchases. And they'll be pricey .
We've been spoilt this season how good the European prices have been. They at least learnt from the debacle of the Everton pricing which resulted in our lowest home attendance for many years.
It will be premier league prices for CL for sure given it's pretty certain we'll be getting two elite CL teams at VP with how they're re-configuring the competition so demand will be ridiculous.
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They'll sell all ST a piece of piss. They'll sell CL tickets a piece of piss. Makes no sense to sell them combined when the aim is to maximise revenue. £60 cheapest adult ticket for the CL is my guess.
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No way , ECL tickets will be standalone purchases. And they'll be pricey .
We've been spoilt this season how good the European prices have been. They at least learnt from the debacle of the Everton pricing which resulted in our lowest home attendance for many years.
It will be premier league prices for CL for sure given it's pretty certain we'll be getting two elite CL teams at VP with how they're re-configuring the competition so demand will be ridiculous.
Yep , spot on. What we don't yet know is what Prem League pricing is next season. My view is we are facing into a double digit % increase . Every one has a choice so I'm not slating anyone who goes or doesn't or the club who need to do what they need to . Modern Prem top end football is a different business nowadays . I'm still grappling with do I renew or bail at the moment .
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I could not think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t do it.
You can’t think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t discount 25k tickets for four games they are going to sell anyway?
Who said anything about discount, and you don’t think being paid in advance is good business? let alone removing a lot of the cost of selling individual tickets.
Because why would season ticket holders do it then? If you have a ST, you are guaranteed to get a CL ticket, why would you want to pay those up front? All ST tickets are discounted.
They don’t need to encourage new season ticket holders and they don’t need to encourage european game take-up, all they’d be doing is reducing gate receipts to get the money in earlier.
By incorporating CL games into it you’re not going to sell any more season ticks or champions league tickets than you were going to anyway, but you are giving people waivering, or with budget restrictions, or who can’t do midweek games a reason not to buy one.
Yes, I do think improving cashflow is good business. But it’s not this businesses problem, is it? Generating more revenue is. So no, sacrificing revenue for improved cashflow isn’t great business here.
But the point was you saying you couldn’t think of a single business reason not to do it, not that I didn’t think there was any possible business reason to. :P
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
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It doesn't mean they'll take your seats though. They should if they want it to sell better, but if it's the same model as the Terrace View then they'll just hold empty seats back elsewhere in the stand.
It looks from that though that they will have to take some of the boxes back if they want to create that viewing window?
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I doubt you'd be able to watch the game through the window. They have to pull the curtains as you can't have alcohol while watching the game so I'm guessing they'll take out a couple of the boxes in have people be able to access it before and after game like the terrace view
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It doesn't mean they'll take your seats though. They should if they want it to sell better, but if it's the same model as the Terrace View then they'll just hold empty seats back elsewhere in the stand.
Thanks. I didn’t realise that was how it worked with the terrace view
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It doesn't mean they'll take your seats though. They should if they want it to sell better, but if it's the same model as the Terrace View then they'll just hold empty seats back elsewhere in the stand.
Thanks. I didn’t realise that was how it worked with the terrace view
I think the only seats they took for the TV were some in the Holte lower to create a small accessible deck in front of the viewing window. The rest they just use spare seats dotted throughout the Holte, mostly at the back. I reckon there's enough good non season ticket seats in the DE for it to work better in the DE.
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It doesn't mean they'll take your seats though. They should if they want it to sell better, but if it's the same model as the Terrace View then they'll just hold empty seats back elsewhere in the stand.
Thanks. I didn’t realise that was how it worked with the terrace view
I think the only seats they took for the TV were some in the Holte lower to create a small accessible deck in front of the viewing window. The rest they just use spare seats dotted throughout the Holte, mostly at the back. I reckon there's enough good non season ticket seats in the DE for it to work better in the DE.
My blood pressure is starting to come back down now, thanks.
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I could not think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t do it.
You can’t think of a good business reason why they wouldn’t discount 25k tickets for four games they are going to sell anyway?
Who said anything about discount, and you don’t think being paid in advance is good business? let alone removing a lot of the cost of selling individual tickets.
Because why would season ticket holders do it then? If you have a ST, you are guaranteed to get a CL ticket, why would you want to pay those up front? All ST tickets are discounted.
They don’t need to encourage new season ticket holders and they don’t need to encourage european game take-up, all they’d be doing is reducing gate receipts to get the money in earlier.
By incorporating CL games into it you’re not going to sell any more season ticks or champions league tickets than you were going to anyway, but you are giving people waivering, or with budget restrictions, or who can’t do midweek games a reason not to buy one.
Yes, I do think improving cashflow is good business. But it’s not this businesses problem, is it? Generating more revenue is. So no, sacrificing revenue for improved cashflow isn’t great business here.
But the point was you saying you couldn’t think of a single business reason not to do it, not that I didn’t think there was any possible business reason to. :P
Oh dear, I was suggesting the option to buy the CL package with the ST not make it compulsory.
So the STs that would go anyway can buy them or chose not to. Both improving cash flow and reducing administration.
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
I imagine it will impact the Lower Tier Halfway line Witton seats . M1 / M2 Blocks
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
I imagine it will impact the Lower Tier Halfway line Witton seats . M1 / M2 Blocks
Surely that's the wrong end of the ground?
That picture is the end above the away fans.
TBH, I don't really care if they want to put one there, I'd have thought the actual seats above in the upper Doug closest the away fans must be amongst the last to sell usually?
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
I imagine it will impact the Lower Tier Halfway line Witton seats . M1 / M2 Blocks
Surely that's the wrong end of the ground?
That picture is the end above the away fans.
TBH, I don't really care if they want to put one there, I'd have thought the actual seats above in the upper Doug closest the away fans must be amongst the last to sell usually?
Would you put corporate lite seats next to the away end ? Maybe for bantz
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Considering who was in Villa corporate last night, probably wise not to.
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Considering who was in Villa corporate last night, probably wise not to.
Spill the beans .
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Few old C-Crew in there. Drinking in the first bar we went to after the game, along with Ian Taylor.
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Few old C-Crew in there. Drinking in the first bar we went to after the game, along with Ian Taylor.
Ah ok, in Athens corporate . I thought Lower Grounds was open last night showing the game .
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
I imagine it will impact the Lower Tier Halfway line Witton seats . M1 / M2 Blocks
Surely that's the wrong end of the ground?
That picture is the end above the away fans.
TBH, I don't really care if they want to put one there, I'd have thought the actual seats above in the upper Doug closest the away fans must be amongst the last to sell usually?
Would you put corporate lite seats next to the away end ? Maybe for bantz
Theres a load of boxes being ripped out in the witton lane to create this new space.
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
I imagine it will impact the Lower Tier Halfway line Witton seats . M1 / M2 Blocks
Surely that's the wrong end of the ground?
That picture is the end above the away fans.
TBH, I don't really care if they want to put one there, I'd have thought the actual seats above in the upper Doug closest the away fans must be amongst the last to sell usually?
Would you put corporate lite seats next to the away end ? Maybe for bantz
Theres a load of boxes being ripped out in the witton lane to create this new space.
That would probably mean a Terrace View type thing then - bank of double glazed windows and blinds with a door leading to padded seats with elbow rests in the lower Witton .
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
My ST is in the Lower Witton
And I can tell you everyone has to pick a little ball out of a woollen bag as they go in and everyone with an odd number Has to leave before 83 minutes
It’s the rules
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Are you timelocked in 2022
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Man City was the strangest, best performance in years and still they left
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An eagle-eyed person on another Villa forum has spotted, that if you go onto the Terrace View webpage, there is a picture of what looks like a Terrace View Mark 2 for the Witton. As someone who sits in that area, my heart has sunk.
Image here:
https://ibb.co/Tck627j
Webpage here:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/the-terrace-view/match-by-match/
That image, I can't help thinking that as well as it being in the Witton Lane, also is it high enough up judging from the depicted exterior view to suggest it's located in the old TV gantry?
If they were going to do that I'd imagine there would be a lot of work to do in relation to a new structure (to replace the structure of the old gantry), additional access would be required which would likely cause the removal of some seats at the back of the Upper Witton. And it would need planning permission.
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I've taken against the titles gold, platinum and platinum plus. I won't set foot in there until they rename them 'you're havin' a larf', 'survived again' and 'gloryhunter'.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Even if that’s the case, it’s their money, their choice. Why are you so worked up about it.
There are plenty that start clearing out of the Holte from 80 mins onwards too.
It’s their prerogative.
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I've taken against the titles gold, platinum and platinum plus. I won't set foot in there until they rename them 'you're havin' a larf', 'survived again' and 'gloryhunter'.
I think they should be replaced by increasingly loud noises.
Gold: a sort of Larry David ‘eh’ (when he expresses slight dislike of something)
Platinum: “ooooh” of the style when you get a pleasant surprise. Like Rik Mayall did before saying “Have we got a video?” in the Young Ones.
Platinum Plus: an evolution of ‘platinum’ so needs to be similar but better. Say, an exaggerated slightly oscillating camp version of “oooh”, a bit like Frankie Howerd did just before saying “titter ye not”.
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Platinum plus for Man U? Facepalm
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Even if that’s the case, it’s their money, their choice. Why are you so worked up about it.
There are plenty that start clearing out of the Holte from 80 mins onwards too.
It’s their prerogative.
Which is what I said in my post. I just don’t get it that’s all.
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Beating the horrendous problems getting away from the ground, surely that’s a reason everyone gets.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Even if that’s the case, it’s their money, their choice. Why are you so worked up about it.
There are plenty that start clearing out of the Holte from 80 mins onwards too.
It’s their prerogative.
Which is what I said in my post. I just don’t get it that’s all.
It IS their prerogative, but still doesn't make it less shit or less embarrassing for those that remain. I was shocked how many left after Dougie missed the pen against Olympiacos. European semi final, not even half time in the tie, and staying, pushing them on till the end could have garnered an extra goal. It's as much on us as a fanbase as it is on the players. Never used to be this bad until the influx of day trippers over 'proper' fans.
And to those who take offence to this, tough shite. The reason fans attend football matches should be to support your team, and for as long as I can remember, that is 90+ minutes of football.... If you can't deal with that, watch it on the telly.
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I was gobsmacked how many left in the away leg. We knew we were going to be locked in but after we conceded the second a number still tried to leave. Force of habit I suppose the VAR call ended at about 80 minutes.
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I think they’re mostly scared of their wives. Pussies.
Note the full stop.
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Maybe a seat belt that unlocks only after the final whistle too.
Ah the never ending saga of the Witton Lower Early Leavers Club.
Win or lose, they start pouring out en masse come 80 minutes. Stranget bunch at the club. You get early leavers in most stands/grounds, but nothing quote touches that lot.
You're letting the pressure get to you! Leave them alone.
No they deserve everything they get. Is it something in the air down there, is there some signal that the ringleader gives for everyone to up sticks and fuck off from the 80th minute? I get the fact it’s a free country, do what you want but if you’re spending the best part of £40 odd quid surely you’d want your moneys worth? Anyway as the saying goes “there’s nowt so queer as folk”.
Even if that’s the case, it’s their money, their choice. Why are you so worked up about it.
There are plenty that start clearing out of the Holte from 80 mins onwards too.
It’s their prerogative.
Which is what I said in my post. I just don’t get it that’s all.
It IS their prerogative, but still doesn't make it less shit or less embarrassing for those that remain. I was shocked how many left after Dougie missed the pen against Olympiacos. European semi final, not even half time in the tie, and staying, pushing them on till the end could have garnered an extra goal. It's as much on us as a fanbase as it is on the players. Never used to be this bad until the influx of day trippers over 'proper' fans.
And to those who take offence to this, tough shite. The reason fans attend football matches should be to support your team, and for as long as I can remember, that is 90+ minutes of football.... If you can't deal with that, watch it on the telly.
What an utter load of pretentious horse shit.
People are people. They have lives. They make their own decisions.
Why on earth you want to get embarrassed for other people’s actions is just weird.
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Love how people come out with the faux outrage when it gets called out. We ridicule other clubs on here for precisely the same thing that happens at Villa Park every home game. Its 5-10 minutes..... and the traffic excuse is bollocks too. It's ALWAYS been as bad as it is now.
The players must think 'Are we REALLY that bad?!', when they look around the stadium with 10-15 minutes to go and it's literally half empty.
It will be the same tomorrow night, but can already see the excuses of 'Monday night', 'kids at school in the morning' - Which is going to be pretty shite for the squad's post match lap of honour after the monumental season they've given us.
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And to those who take offence to this, tough shite. The reason fans attend football matches should be to support your team, and for as long as I can remember, that is 90+ minutes of football.... If you can't deal with that, watch it on the telly.
What a superfan you are
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and the traffic excuse is bollocks too. It's ALWAYS been as bad as it is now.
Not sure of the logic here - "the excuse that people want to beat the bad traffic is bogus, because the traffic has always been bad"
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I really do hope that our players are not taking any notice of people leaving the ground. They have a match to play not people watch.
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The traffic has got worse over the years or certainly getting too and away from B6 and parking has all got a lot worse .
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If a player earning six figures a week isn't going to do his best because I leave a couple of minutes early I don't think I'll bother at all.
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When I first started going I thought it odd when towards the end of the game a group of blokes by me at the back of the Holte all cleared off. I got the answer a few minutes later when they all appeared on the Witton and steamed into the away fans. I’m sure it’s the same reason why they’re all leaving early nowadays.
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Love how people come out with the faux outrage when it gets called out. We ridicule other clubs on here for precisely the same thing that happens at Villa Park every home game. Its 5-10 minutes..... and the traffic excuse is bollocks too. It's ALWAYS been as bad as it is now.
The players must think 'Are we REALLY that bad?!', when they look around the stadium with 10-15 minutes to go and it's literally half empty.
It will be the same tomorrow night, but can already see the excuses of 'Monday night', 'kids at school in the morning' - Which is going to be pretty shite for the squad's post match lap of honour after the monumental season they've given us.
10-15 minutes to go and it’s literally half empty? I don’t think so. Yes there are occasions when the game is beyond us and it thins out considerably but that happens at all grounds when a clear defeat is looming. It’s the first couple of years in my long stretch of watching Villa when the ground is full or close too, that’s bound to impact on traffic. I do stay to the bitter end apart from once or twice when I use the train, then I do leave early because aston station going north is really busy and you might be in for a mighty long wait.
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I suspect that with prices not announced so far there may be an unpalatable link with Champions League games? So waiting for confirmation of that before they tell us the damage,
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I suspect that with prices not announced so far there may be an unpalatable link with Champions League games? So waiting for confirmation of that before they tell us the damage,
Heck suggested a 5% increase in his AVTV interview this week.
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I suspect that with prices not announced so far there may be an unpalatable link with Champions League games? So waiting for confirmation of that before they tell us the damage,
They have told us the damage - Heck said this week, 5% rise.
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Beating the horrendous problems getting away from the ground, surely that’s a reason everyone gets.
I think its more that the lower Witton basically evacuates like they've got first dibs on lifeboat. Others drift away, the lower Witton streams out on 80 minutes regardless. As others have said, its their money, but it's still weird behaviour.
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Well when they are all kicked out for corporate , they will be their ages !
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When I first started going I thought it odd when towards the end of the game a group of blokes by me at the back of the Holte all cleared off. I got the answer a few minutes later when they all appeared on the Witton and steamed into the away fans. I’m sure it’s the same reason why they’re all leaving early nowadays.
Only if we're playing QPR .
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When I first started going I thought it odd when towards the end of the game a group of blokes by me at the back of the Holte all cleared off. I got the answer a few minutes later when they all appeared on the Witton and steamed into the away fans. I’m sure it’s the same reason why they’re all leaving early nowadays.
Only if we're playing QPR .
Happened all the time.
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Details out;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/15/aston-villa-announces-season-ticket-details-for-the-2024-25-season/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/15/aston-villa-announces-season-ticket-details-for-the-2024-25-season/)
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Displacement of 900 ST holders for re-development work….
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900 STH being moved in the North, Doug, and Trinity. :(
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
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5% is as good as can be expected and I'm glad that over 65's still have concessions. Unless they are to announce separately.
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I wonder how much new season tickets will be.
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
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There are around 600 seats in C4 and C5 which I think will be impacted.
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
I'm on the halfway line upper Witton and am equally worried.
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I'm on the halfway line upper Witton and am equally worried.
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You must be very close to me. P6 row MM
I'm not sure we will be hit unless they expand the camera/commentary position thats behind us
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There's been rumours that our section will be gentrified. So I might be among the 900
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Still can't see where they are going to shoe-horn many more seats in, though.
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I'm on the halfway line upper Witton and am equally worried.
You must be very close to me. P6 row MM
I'm not sure we will be hit unless they expand the camera/commentary position thats behind us
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yes - P6 LL !!
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
I guess the number of season ticket holders affected will depend on the number of new corporate seats and the proportion of season ticket holders in those seats.
If they are converting around 3000 seats to corporate seats, and the ratio is about 1/3 ST holders, then that would be around 900 ST holders booted out.
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All those supporters that have sat together for donkeys years, friends ….being asked to pick and choose from whatever General admission seats are available. Presumably nowhere near their current seats or friends. Not nice at all. That’s price of progress I guess
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Also 900 less seats for the general public/waiting list
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
I'm on the halfway line upper Witton and am equally worried.
We're up there too smack on the halfwayline , should we be worried ?
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They are knocking a lot of the boxes through to create larger spaces for more seats - no more glass fronted boxes in the Witton or North Stand - but more seats.
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I'm on the halfway line upper Witton and am equally worried.
You must be very close to me. P6 row MM
I'm not sure we will be hit unless they expand the camera/commentary position thats behind us
yes - P6 LL !!
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And I am P6 EE, back row in front of the gangway. They already removed the front two rows for the cameras... We have had those seats since the upper tier opened.
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Any idea on where the rail-seats will be installed?
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They are knocking a lot of the boxes through to create larger spaces for more seats - no more glass fronted boxes in the Witton or North Stand - but more seats.
So that would impact the Lower Witton i'd think , not upper ?
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Any idea on where the rail-seats will be installed?
On the roof at this rate
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They are knocking a lot of the boxes through to create larger spaces for more seats - no more glass fronted boxes in the Witton or North Stand - but more seats.
So that would impact the Lower Witton i'd think , not upper ?
I said this months ago and was poo-pooed that this was an option.
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Yeah I’ve heard that corporate folks have been informed of the plans and they’ll be knocked em through and making it all open plan. Big bar, shared facilities and more capacity with rowed seating
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Anyone tried speaking to the club yet?
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Any idea on where the rail-seats will be installed?
On the roof at this rate
We're aiming high!
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Any idea on where the rail-seats will be installed?
From memory, I think some of the upper sections of the Holte.
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Any idea on where the rail-seats will be installed?
On the roof at this rate
We're aiming high!
Any seagulls impacted by the changes will informed in due course
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They are knocking a lot of the boxes through to create larger spaces for more seats - no more glass fronted boxes in the Witton or North Stand - but more seats.
So that would impact the Lower Witton i'd think , not upper ?
I said this months ago and was poo-pooed that this was an option.
The Upper Witton is very restricted as the concourse is dangerously narrow . Really really poor design .
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I guess access from the hospitality area in the Witton will determine which seats they upgrade.
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You could see the back 2 or 3 rows in the Lower Witton being re-imagined into Premium Seats.
Middle blocks of the North Stand
Lower Trinity - dug-out blocks
There's your 900 seats...
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I guess access from the hospitality area in the Witton will determine which seats they upgrade.
If they are ripping out the boxes and installing seats then the middle seats will be Premium and those displaced will get shunted to the back and wide
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You could see the back 2 or 3 rows in the Lower Witton being re-imagined into Premium Seats.
Middle blocks of the North Stand
Lower Trinity - dug-out blocks
There's your 900 seats...
That’s 900 seats but it isn’t necessarily 900 season-ticket holders seats
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Most of the prime seating is season ticket.
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Most of the prime seating is season ticket.
That’s a good point. It is also going to make finding a replacement seat in a similar location very difficult
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Most of the prime seating is season ticket.
That’s a good point. It is also going to make finding a replacement seat in a similar location very difficult
Maybe they'll offer a discount in corporate for a season to soften the blow .
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This is why they're not expanding the stadium. An extra 4,000 standard-price seats adds very little. Creating a few thousand GA+ generates a lot. I think it's the same reason Everton decided 50k was enough and Chelsea have managed to compete with 40k.
It's a bit shit for loyal fans who want to get a ticket as there will be even less to go around and long-term regular attendees will get frozen out. But it's the inevitable price of progress.
If they'd built the North it would have been a lot less painful for fans and hopefully that will be back on the agenda in the next few years.
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You could see the back 2 or 3 rows in the Lower Witton being re-imagined into Premium Seats.
Middle blocks of the North Stand
Lower Trinity - dug-out blocks
There's your 900 seats...
*waves*
That's me.
There's a few non-ST seats in the area, including the one next to me.
My mate has tried to buy it as a ST, but the TO won't sell it as such
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Me too UK Redsox - we were told at the Chelsea game by a steward we were "privileged" to even sit there...
They weren't saying that during 2016...
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Most of the prime seating is season ticket.
That’s a good point. It is also going to make finding a replacement seat in a similar location very difficult
Impossible
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Most of the prime seating is season ticket.
That’s a good point. It is also going to make finding a replacement seat in a similar location very difficult
Impossible
Yes, there are going to be a lot of displaced pissed off ST holders.
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900 of them would be my guess.
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Anyone tried speaking to the club yet?
I just rang the ticket office. The lady told me that they found out the same information we did today and thy are non the wiser than us. And that they don’t know which seats are affected yet. She said that anyone affected would be the 1st to know. She was a very nice lady and there was no point arguing and making the following points, which are: somebody must know which seats are affected, otherwise they wouldn’t know there are 900 of them. Also, it’s all very well being the 1st to know, but if you haven’t heard anything, you don’t know if it means you aren’t affected or they just haven’t happened to get to you yet, or they have forgotten to get to you.
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
I'm pretty much identical to you Des, but in A4. Mildly concerned, but hoping it's more likely to be the middle tier of the Trinity, than the upper.
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I'd be very surprised if it's upper Trinity tbh.
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Brilliant comms from the club... I wonder how long combined us season tickets-holders have held them - my guess (collectively) would run into thousands of years support...
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I think unless you're behind the dugouts, close to the 1874 seats in the middle Trinity or directly in front of the boxes in the DE or North, then there's a reasonable chance you'll be ok. I'm just guessing of course, but that would be my stab at it.
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I don't think my upper trinity seat will be affected, but I'll be royally pissed off if it is.... I used to sit on the very back row of the Witton Lane stand, looking across the halfway line. During the MoN era, we were all kicked out as they wanted to position the sky cameras there so that the shiny new Trinity Road stand was the backdrop on tv, rather than the dilapidated shed that is the Doug Ellis.
Lightning doesn't strike twice does it?!
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I think unless you're behind the dugouts, close to the 1874 seats in the middle Trinity or directly in front of the boxes in the DE or North, then there's a reasonable chance you'll be ok. I'm just guessing of course, but that would be my stab at it.
This is my gut feeling on it.
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What is the development rumoured to be? Adding 1500 seats in the "middle" north where the boxes are?
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Yep there and the ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane lower tier. With some tented hospitality in the North Stand car park.
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I think unless you're behind the dugouts, close to the 1874 seats in the middle Trinity or directly in front of the boxes in the DE or North, then there's a reasonable chance you'll be ok. I'm just guessing of course, but that would be my stab at it.
This sounds highly plausible . Upper Witton would be difficult to configure the only thing they might do is refurb the Lions Club that gives access to the Upper Tier and they may slam in some padded seats in the middle which would be goodnight Vienna for us .
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Yep there and the ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane lower tier. With some tented hospitality in the North Stand car park.
Tented hospitality in Winter sounds a bit rough. Sod that
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Yep there and the ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane lower tier. With some tented hospitality in the North Stand car park.
Tented hospitality in Winter sounds a bit rough. Sod that
Now we’ve qualified for CL , it’ll be glamping
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
I'm pretty much identical to you Des, but in A4. Mildly concerned, but hoping it's more likely to be the middle tier of the Trinity, than the upper.
A5 row A here so hope we don't have to move
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Selfishly, I hope any kerfuffle over this reduces the season-ticket queue. Not sure how much they've eaten into that yet. Last update I had on mine was an email in April last year, number 27825!
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Yep there and the ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane lower tier. With some tented hospitality in the North Stand car park.
Tented hospitality in Winter sounds a bit rough. Sod that
I'm also visualising Portaloos .
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Hot tubs!
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Selfishly, I hope any kerfuffle over this reduces the season-ticket queue. Not sure how much they've eaten into that yet. Last update I had on mine was an email in April last year, number 27825!
It’ll make it worse 900 folks will be moved to other general admission seats. So taking more capacity
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Yep there and the ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane lower tier. With some tented hospitality in the North Stand car park.
They are ripping all of them
out ??
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Selfishly, I hope any kerfuffle over this reduces the season-ticket queue. Not sure how much they've eaten into that yet. Last update I had on mine was an email in April last year, number 27825!
It'll work out perfectly, you'll have more time to go to games when you've retired.
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All those supporters that have sat together for donkeys years, friends ….being asked to pick and choose from whatever General admission seats are available. Presumably nowhere near their current seats or friends. Not nice at all. That’s price of progress I guess
This was the biggest blow when we were moved from the back of the Lower Holte (L4) to accommodate the disabled concourse in front of the Terrace View at the end of last season after a decade of sitting there. We got used to our new seats and made some new friends over time, but to begin with, and for a good while, we were mightily pissed off. Mind you, decent performances and results on the pitch helped soften the blow.
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Me too UK Redsox - we were told at the Chelsea game by a steward we were "privileged" to even sit there...
They weren't saying that during 2016...
No one wants real fans around the dug out, they are just a nuisance and never appreciate the privilege.
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Ripping out the boxes in the Witton Lane and North and creating more seats and GA+ offers feels like a substantial redevelopment and a lot to do in 3 months.
It’s been mentioned before but is planning permission not needed?
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Selfishly, I hope any kerfuffle over this reduces the season-ticket queue. Not sure how much they've eaten into that yet. Last update I had on mine was an email in April last year, number 27825!
Me and the kids are 37,000 and something. Two blokes at work, father and son, are at 45k.
We’d all definitely buy.
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I imagine the list is going to get considerably longer now .
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I just saw this on Reddit, posted today:
"I got talking at the Hibbs game to the chap in charge of developing Villa Park. He was a few down and was definitely saying more than he should. The plan is to have a terrace view set up all around the ground. Could be that sadly. "
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It's been said nearly 900 season ticket holders are going to be moved does this impact any of the ST who post discussion here?
What's your take and experience?
Especially if it's been longstanding seat for you- what's going to your plan?
I hadn't seen this thread initially so had put it in redevelopment thread.
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Yes
It’s shit
No info or contact from the club, so no idea on the options.
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Yes
It’s shit
No info or contact from the club, so no idea on the option
Sorry to hear this.
That should be a club priority.
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Selfishly, I hope any kerfuffle over this reduces the season-ticket queue. Not sure how much they've eaten into that yet. Last update I had on mine was an email in April last year, number 27825!
Me and the kids are 37,000 and something. Two blokes at work, father and son, are at 45k.
We’d all definitely buy.
I wonder how big the list is now?
My 3yo was 12,118 last April, not had an update this year but can’t imagine it’s very different. Will probably come around just in time for her to decide she’s not interested.
My 4yo has just done her 3rd yr as a ST holder. I think a few on here rightly questioned the wisdom of starting so young, but so glad not to have given up the ST, what a year!
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
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Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
Do we know this though? Has anyone had the conversation with the club that they have to move and what the options are?
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
Ah right. I’m expecting to be one of those, so I’ll let you know what our options are. I suspect they’ll happily take our cash for an upgrade
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
Who has said you won’t be able to purchase your existing seat as a premium seat?
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
Who has said you won’t be able to purchase your existing seat as a premium seat?
Nobody has said this but if this were the case, why would they have made a press announcement giving the bad news that 900 seasont ticket holders would be displaced. I personally think the press release would have been that "the seats of 900 season ticket holders will be upgraded with the exciting and privileged opportunity to retain this premium experience, or a suitable alternative".
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
Who has said you won’t be able to purchase your existing seat as a premium seat?
Nobody has said this but if this were the case, why would they have made a press announcement giving the bad news that 900 seasont ticket holders would be displaced. I personally think the press release would have been that "the seats of 900 season ticket holders will be upgraded with the exciting and privileged opportunity to retain this premium experience, or a suitable alternative".
That’s a fair point but as usual I wouldn’t necessarily think the worst until it’s confirmed. Also with Heck’s appalling record with comms over the last year I’d suggest waiting until you get the letter assuming you’ll be one of the 900.
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What has been the process for other fans moved - the ones in the Holte that were shifted for the Terrace View Disabled seats?
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I rejoined the queue in 2018 and am 20,000 or so last April so can't see myself being able to get one, my lad is in the 30,000s. We've been to all but 3 home games together and not missed one between us this season, but he got into football later than I'd hoped so my dreams of having a season ticket with him are highly unlikely. We pay for the membership to get tickets so hopefully that will still work OK to get seats next season. Can never get anywhere near the Holte though.
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
I'm sure if your seat still physically exists you will be given the option to take it at the premium price if that is how they are being sold. Whether you want to shift to corporate / GA+ pricing is up to you.
I get why you're anxious, I would be too. But at this stage we're all just guessing and you may not even lose the seat in the first place!
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900 ST holders displaced, is that was what was expected? For some reason I was thinking there would be fewer than that.
It's what I feared, I'm expecting my Dear John letter today
Where do you sit Des?
A5, Row F seat 164
I'm pretty much identical to you Des, but in A4. Mildly concerned, but hoping it's more likely to be the middle tier of the Trinity, than the upper.
A5 row A here so hope we don't have to move
I'm in row B 159. Based on what's been said about the area around the dugout and other works I think we'll be okay this year but ours must be in the mix over the next couple of seasons.
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
I'm sure if your seat still physically exists you will be given the option to take it at the premium price if that is how they are being sold. Whether you want to shift to corporate / GA+ pricing is up to you.
I get why you're anxious, I would be too. But at this stage we're all just guessing and you may not even lose the seat in the first place!
I remember listening to an interview with wrestler Ric Flair where he once told Macho Man Randy Savage to stop constantly worrying about things that might never happen. As much as I try to be like Ric Flair, I will always be Randy Savage (insert joke here).
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ST holder Man Utd Mate of mine told me yesterday that today is their deadline for renewing
so they get their money in early doors
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If as many wanted on here, they has knocked down the North Stand at the end of this season, I would imagine that there would have been far more disruption for season ticket holders?
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If as many wanted on here, they has knocked down the North Stand at the end of this season, I would imagine that there would have been far more disruption for season ticket holders?
Well yes. But then we'd have a 50k seater stadium.
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What they should do is give the Premium Seat option to all of the Category 1 STs first, then they will be able to offer those seats to those that are going to be displaced.
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What they should do is give the Premium Seat option to all of the Category 1 STs first, then they will be able to offer those seats to those that are going to be displaced.
They should, but from the clubs perspective they may well want occasional fans to take the premium seats, because of their spend per head.
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They are knocking a lot of the boxes through to create larger spaces for more seats - no more glass fronted boxes in the Witton or North Stand - but more seats.
If they can do it great but is that really possible?
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If as many wanted on here, they has knocked down the North Stand at the end of this season, I would imagine that there would have been far more disruption for season ticket holders?
Well yes. But then we'd have a 50k seater stadium.
Whilst I think they probably should have gone ahead and done it, it would have in a way been a shame to be playing Champions League football for the first time with a stand missing.
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We're assuming a lot here, but if it's anything like the Terrace View approach then they will be delighted if fans take the GA+ seating as season tickets.
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I've got an alert in my calendar for season ticket details at 4pm.
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
I'm sure if your seat still physically exists you will be given the option to take it at the premium price if that is how they are being sold. Whether you want to shift to corporate / GA+ pricing is up to you.
I get why you're anxious, I would be too. But at this stage we're all just guessing and you may not even lose the seat in the first place!
I remember listening to an interview with wrestler Ric Flair where he once told Macho Man Randy Savage to stop constantly worrying about things that might never happen. As much as I try to be like Ric Flair, I will always be Randy Savage (insert joke here).
Could be worse.
You could be Robby Savage.
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With 900 general admission seats being allocated to existing season ticket holders and the 900 becoming premium seats. It won’t improve the waiting list situation ( unless you can afford a premium seat) . Those on the list may get the chance to buy a posh seat, I guess?
But it sounds like even the existing seat holders aren’t getting that chance, Which is making me wonder: are people losing their seats because it is being converted to a premium seat or are people losing their seats because the seat just won’t be there anymore?
All 900 will be able to relocate to other parts of the ground. Their seats will become premium
Just to clarify,My point was, in reply to the possibility that people on the waiting list could buy a premium seat, that the existing seat holders aren’t even being given the option to retain their seat as a premium seat.
I'm sure if your seat still physically exists you will be given the option to take it at the premium price if that is how they are being sold. Whether you want to shift to corporate / GA+ pricing is up to you.
I get why you're anxious, I would be too. But at this stage we're all just guessing and you may not even lose the seat in the first place!
I remember listening to an interview with wrestler Ric Flair where he once told Macho Man Randy Savage to stop constantly worrying about things that might never happen. As much as I try to be like Ric Flair, I will always be Randy Savage (insert joke here).
Could be worse.
You could be Robby Savage.
This forum needs a reaction button when you where you can show that you are laughing at stuff
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Time to implement my "would you all mind scooching up, please?" free pie plan to get rid of all the single seats dotted about.
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How does adding more seats "in the stadium bowl" work, then? They obviously can't just make seats smaller.
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How does adding more seats "in the stadium bowl" work, then? They obviously can't just make seats smaller.
This is my crazy theory. They are going to rip out all the boxes and turn them into terrace views. The row directly in front of this will be lost to make a walkway. Three new rows will be added to the tier above, overhanging the new terrace views without somehow blocking the terrace view
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How does adding more seats "in the stadium bowl" work, then? They obviously can't just make seats smaller.
This is my crazy theory. They are going to rip out all the boxes and turn them into terrace views. The row directly in front of this will be lost to make a walkway. Three new rows will be added to the tier above, overhanging the new terrace views without somehow blocking the terrace view
Nah, you can't just stick three more rows at the front of the upper tier, engineering is much more complex than that.
I also think an executive box would bring in more money than Terrace View style seats.
My money would be they're upgrading the boxes from glazed in, old school 1990s rubbish, to having more of an outside area.
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How does adding more seats "in the stadium bowl" work, then? They obviously can't just make seats smaller.
This is my crazy theory. They are going to rip out all the boxes and turn them into terrace views. The row directly in front of this will be lost to make a walkway. Three new rows will be added to the tier above, overhanging the new terrace views without somehow blocking the terrace view
Nah, you can't just stick three more rows at the front of the upper tier, engineering is much more complex than that.
I also think an executive box would bring in more money than Terrace View style seats.
My money would be they're upgrading the boxes from glazed in, old school 1990s rubbish, to having more of an outside area.
Fair enough. I did say it was crazy.
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Anyone had any contact about the potential relocations?
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Anyone had any contact on actual renewals
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Anyone had any contact on actual renewals
Nothing yet . Upper Witton .
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Never known us be this late in releasing ST details.
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I wonder what they're up to .
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Sweating on my Witton Upper seat. Been there for 24 years and the view is ace.
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Sweating on my Witton Upper seat. Been there for 24 years and the view is ace.
Same here , albeit not been there as long as you , we moved there during the McLeish era . From the Upper Trinity .
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Anyone had any contact about the potential relocations?
As soon as they said that some ST holders would have to move, the club should have told people immediately if they are affected.
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Could a Mod remove the dates from the thread title please
EDIT - Thanks
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Anyone had any contact about the potential relocations?
As soon as they said that some ST holders would have to move, the club should have told people immediately if they are affected.
That is far too sensible!
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Sweating on my Witton Upper seat. Been there for 24 years and the view is ace.
Same with me - been there 15 years.
It's got to the point where it's taken the shine off the the Champions League qualification for me.
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quoted wrong post
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Anyone had any contact about the potential relocations?
As soon as they said that some ST holders would have to move, the club should have told people immediately if they are affected.
I'm starting to think that people won't know until the time comes to renew and "computer says no".
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Being an ST holder (24 years) in the Middle Trinity, I suspect I might be one of the 900. (On my 4th move around the Trinity.)
It would be helpful if and when we get the dreaded 'Dear John...' letter, to let others know what's on offer asap?
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Spoke to the AV Ticket Office 22 May and they said letters were being posted (1st class) on that day to the 900 Season Ticket holders affected by the "displacement". They couldn't tell me if I was receiving a letter/affected but said the letter would contain info regarding the relocation process. I see the Ticket Office is shut Friday 24/Monday 27; a wise move as I expect a few unhappy callers once the letters start to arrive...
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Spoke to the AV Ticket Office 22 May and they said letters were being posted (1st class) on that day to the 900 Season Ticket holders affected by the "displacement". They couldn't tell me if I was receiving a letter/affected but said the letter would contain info regarding the relocation process. I see the Ticket Office is shut Friday 24/Monday 27; a wise move as I expect a few unhappy callers once the letters start to arrive...
Thanks for this helpful update.
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Letters are starting to be received. Including £80 “compensation” to spend in the club shop.
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If / when people receive a letter, please can they post the affected section.
That way the rest of us might be able to figure out if the axe will fall
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Trinity c5 safe.
What a daft way of managing the process.
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Trinity c5 safe.
What a daft way of managing the process.
How do you know you're safe LV ?
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Trinity c5 safe.
Not often you hear a C5 described as safe.
*Google it on your ZX Spectrum.
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This is like playing battleships
(again, one for the oldies)
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I’m in C5 I’ve sat in that seat or it’s equivalent in the old stand for fifty years having previously seen my first match in 1949 and has a youth was a Holte ender.
I find it really annoying that after all that time I could be moved much against my will to make way for people whose only interest is just watching a premier league game.
It appears that supporters such has myself are not valued by the club.
I remember you Des you played in the Walsall boys league.
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4 mates of mine have had season tickets in A2 for years have just been told they’re being kicked out of their seats.
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4 mates of mine have had season tickets in A2 for years have just been told they’re being kicked out of their seats.
That's a surprise. Isn't that the area where they allocate seats for Lower Grounds?
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Just to confirm, these are olde worlde letters coming out and not emails?
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A thread with a couple of bits of info on H&V Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QaVNxWiCyBwMn35X/?mibextid=K35XfP
Sounded like lower parts of upper North blocks, and having to wait until renewals are done to see where you can be relocated in the same stand.
From what I could quickly scan affected:
North Upper T5 Row F
Doug Lower (block unnamed) Row M
I thought I saw something somewhere about an £80 club shop voucher compensation but can’t remember where that was…
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Twitter
https://x.com/cdarl67/status/1793652449246580968?s=46&t=i0eH9ovn4hH0MJN1zK2sog
Cropped to remove their name, even though they didn’t.
(https://i.ibb.co/fvgVbND/IMG-9998.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fvgVbND)
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4 mates of mine have had season tickets in A2 for years have just been told they’re being kicked out of their seats.
That's a surprise. Isn't that the area where they allocate seats for Lower Grounds?
Yes but further back. I’m in A2 but am away at the moment on Holiday so will have to wait to see what’s in the mail when I return. Ho hum.
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Twitter
https://x.com/callumwarner47/status/1793619787345760352?s=46&t=i0eH9ovn4hH0MJN1zK2sog
Cropped to remove their name, even though they didn’t.
(https://i.ibb.co/k4zVCJk/IMG-9997.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k4zVCJk)
To summarise ...."What a great season...now feck off you pleb"
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Twitter
https://x.com/callumwarner47/status/1793619787345760352?s=46&t=i0eH9ovn4hH0MJN1zK2sog
Cropped to remove their name, even though they didn’t.
(https://i.ibb.co/k4zVCJk/IMG-9997.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k4zVCJk)
To summarise ...."What a great season...now feck off you pleb"
Yes, It’s pretty sickening.
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I feel massively for anyone losing their seat and I hope you all get sorted with something you are ok with.
I've seen a lot of criticism with how the club has handled it. Other than being a bit quicker off the mark after Heck mentioned it, I'm not sure there's any process they could have done that would have pleased everyone impacted by this?
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I know it's the "price of progress", but it seems very harsh. Having what are presumably the best season ticket seats at the moment (otherwise why would the club be taking them?) the affected people are now going to be left with what's remaining, which will surely be the worst available tickets, assuming that 99% of current season ticket holders who are unaffected will renew. And £80 compensation to spend in the club shop? I'd be amazed if that's even enough to buy a new replica home kit when they're announced.
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Yeah, a discount on their new seat would have made more sense.
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Please fuck off out of your seat , here's £80 compensation for you to hand back to us .
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Yeah, a discount on their new seat would have made more sense.
Yep, massive own goal, best to worst seats in the same stand, breaking up old friendship groups, seen reference to 50yrs in the same location across stands. Would be gutted.
A proper wedge off the renewal not an (unsigned) shirt-ish value.
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Makes Heck's words about improvements seem a bit hollow. "It is not going to be for one group of fans, it is going to be for all of our fans."
Tell to that the 900 people affected by this.
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I still don’t know if my seat in the upper DE Is safe yet or not but to think of all the season-ticket holders who have loyally renewed through years of shit football, under the likes of Lambert, McLeish and Garde, who are now considered as surplus to requirements, it makes me really angry.
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I feel massively for anyone losing their seat and I hope you all get sorted with something you are ok with.
I've seen a lot of criticism with how the club has handled it. Other than being a bit quicker off the mark after Heck mentioned it, I'm not sure there's any process they could have done that would have pleased everyone impacted by this?
That's the key point. As soon as it was announced, the affected people should have been notified the same day by email, with a follow up letter
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I spoke to the club today and said it was a poor process and how the half-arsed announcement have unsettled thousands of fans.
The ones affected should have been consulted, or at least communicated with, before it was blabbed out to gabby.
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I spoke to the club today and said it was a poor process and how the half-arsed announcement have unsettled thousands of fans.
The ones affected should have been consulted, or at least communicated with, before it was blabbed out to gabby.
Is that when they told you that C5 was safe ?
I'm hoping it means C4 survives as well. Otherwise, things would look a bit lopsided in the LTR
I'm sure that the TO staff are sympathetic to the problems (especially since they're the ones who have to handle the complaints).
However, those who actually decide how/when things get announced won't be bothered, because they don't have to deal with the regular holders.
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So we have to wait to see if we get a Dear John letter or not via Royal Mail ! Marvellous .
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So we have to wait to see if we get a Dear John letter or not via Royal Mail ! Marvellous .
....and even if we don't we still don't know if we're safe. Letters get lost.
Once the letters are all sent out, the club needs to publicise which sections are affected, so that anyone who didn't get a letter can contact the TO
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I spoke to the club today and said it was a poor process and how the half-arsed announcement have unsettled thousands of fans.
The ones affected should have been consulted, or at least communicated with, before it was blabbed out to gabby.
Is that when they told you that C5 was safe ?
I'm hoping it means C4 survives as well. Otherwise, things would look a bit lopsided in the LTR
I'm sure that the TO staff are sympathetic to the problems (especially since they're the ones who have to handle the complaints).
However, those who actually decide how/when things get announced won't be bothered, because they don't have to deal with the regular holders.
Yep, my mate hss now had an email confirming it too.
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So if affected you'd have had an email by now ?
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A letter…. Trusting royal mail doesn’t fill me with much confidence.
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A letter…. Trusting royal mail doesn’t fill me with much confidence.
They clearly haven't been following the news.
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Fingers crossed selfishly hoping it doesn’t affect me but offering an £80 Club Shop voucher as compensation really is a piss take from the club. I can’t even remember how many years it is since I last went in there, let alone bought anything.
I imagine £80 will be about the price of a shirt though - which is why they’ll have landed on that figure - so as way of compensation for losing a long held seat the club have seen it as an opportunity to get fans to not only boost shirt sales for Adidas but also walk around as a sandwich board advertising whichever betting company were in bed with now.
Would any business other than a football club think that way?
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I know it's the "price of progress", but it seems very harsh. Having what are presumably the best season ticket seats at the moment (otherwise why would the club be taking them?) the affected people are now going to be left with what's remaining, which will surely be the worst available tickets, assuming that 99% of current season ticket holders who are unaffected will renew. And £80 compensation to spend in the club shop? I'd be amazed if that's even enough to buy a new replica home kit when they're announced.
That's a fair summary. It does seem they've been punished twice, and then offered a paltry amount as 'compensation'.
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It’s not how fans should be treated.
First choice of available tickets, then the chase to move on relocation day
Discount on the renewal cost
Voucher for the shop
The above as a minimum.
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A thread with a couple of bits of info on H&V Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QaVNxWiCyBwMn35X/?mibextid=K35XfP
Sounded like lower parts of upper North blocks, and having to wait until renewals are done to see where you can be relocated in the same stand.
From what I could quickly scan affected:
North Upper T5 Row F
Doug Lower (block unnamed) Row M
I thought I saw something somewhere about an £80 club shop voucher compensation but can’t remember where that was…
Well if the North Upper T5 row F is affected, then I’m sure I will be too as I’m row F T1. I will be massively pissed off as I love my seat. No letter as yet though.
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A thread with a couple of bits of info on H&V Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QaVNxWiCyBwMn35X/?mibextid=K35XfP
Sounded like lower parts of upper North blocks, and having to wait until renewals are done to see where you can be relocated in the same stand.
From what I could quickly scan affected:
North Upper T5 Row F
Doug Lower (block unnamed) Row M
I thought I saw something somewhere about an £80 club shop voucher compensation but can’t remember where that was…
Well if the North Upper T5 row F is affected, then I’m sure I will be too as I’m row F T1. I will be massively pissed off as I love my seat. No letter as yet though.
It's probably gone to one of your neighbours houses #RoyalMail
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Loving the hate for Royal Mail. Just as well I no longer work there.
And, yes, I would have thought emails would have been more sensible.
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Wolves have put theirs up by 17%. The reaction is angry to say the least
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Wolves have put theirs up by 17%. The reaction is angry to say the least
The response to this on SHA.
"Hope you're all ready for it to be us in a couple of years..." was countered with
"I can’t imagine they would charge those prices in a 62,000 seater stadium."
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There is an increase of 176 per cent for under-14 tickets in the Billy Wright upper - an increase from £105 to £290.
There is also a 131.7 per cent increase for under-21 disabled tickets for a wheelchair user in the North Bank, going from £211 to £489. #wwfc
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This article says it all about the future :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13249471/Why-Premier-League-clubs-want-kill-season-tickets-risk.html
Quote:
"...Look at many Premier League clubs’ plans for next season and fans aren’t happy.
Arsenal and Tottenham are not inviting any new OAP season-ticket holders – and are doing away with the idea of discounts for them.
Manchester City’s incremental rises – with different percentage increases spread across the Etihad Stadium in a move described as ‘divide and conquer’ – continue.
A second mortgage might be handy to watch Fulham from their new stand, at £3,000 the most expensive ticket in Britain.
Liverpool are fearing rises in the coming weeks.
Manchester United’s have gone up for the second year running after a long freeze.
Chelsea are expecting hikes, Aston Villa the same and also disgruntled by the removal of long-standing fans in the Holte End for hospitality.
Brentford’s going up 10 per cent, Burnley even more.
The list goes on and on.
All condemned and all feeding into an idea one high-profile executive was privately championing over a decade ago.
His club didn’t want season ticket holders.
They could fill the stadium of over 40,000 people with those signing up to membership schemes – access to matches sold at a premium.
First, with an initial fee to join and then by making bigger mark-ups on tickets for individual matches.
‘Matchday revenue increases 30 per cent overnight that way,’ he said.
Another has told staff not to worry about ‘local’ fans in a heartland of their city and focus instead on global reach."
There's a lot more, but it's quite depressing if you have a season ticket.
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I've no time for Wolves but their increases are ridiculous. It's a shame that fans of all clubs don't unite over ticket prices and instead often prefer to remain tribal. Every increase at every club has a knock on effect with other clubs, including us.
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I'm in the front block of T2 , if they have taken my seat that may just be the end for me after 45 years , 35 as ST holder.
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Leicester
Moving into the 2024/25 season, Mobile Tickets will become the default method through which Season Tickets are issued, increasing efficiency and security inside King Power Stadium, and unlocking the full potential of additional benefits such as Ticket Forwarding and Ticket Resale. Supporters who wish to purchase a physical Season Ticket card will be able to do so at a cost of £25 per card, though charge exemptions will apply for Seniors 65+, Under-12s and supporters with a registered disability.
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Mobile tickets that can't be transferred will be here soon . They have like a moving bar code on them so you cant just forward them on . Big Brother .
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I'm in the front block of T2 , if they have taken my seat that may just be the end for me after 45 years , 35 as ST holder.
Don't give up now mate (if it's still affordable for you), we may be about to go into the best years since you bought your first ST. The club aren't trying to fuck over fans, just slightly bridge the huge gap with the Sky 6. We'd all be moving if it was a new stadium. People manage with the change even if they don't like it.
Keep the faith (if you can)
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They will keep fucking the fans over for as long as is possible .
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They get around this at Anfield by just passing the phone itself on.
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They will keep fucking the fans over for as long as is possible.
They're just putting in a bit of corporate seating to try to allow us to compete. Yes football exploits fans, but we're no worse than the majority of PL clubs and significantly better than those we're trying to compete with.
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They get around this at Anfield by just passing the phone itself on.
That doesn't really work on a widescale basis eg selling on the black market. Fine with family etc
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Tell that to the touts in and around Anfield where they're passing multiple phones on every week for £500 a go in envelopes.
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I just can't see that the damage caused by this between the fans and the owners is worth the pittance they'll get in extra income? They struggled to turn a profit on the Holte vandalism, so how the fuck they think people are going to pay through the nose to sit in that 70s concrete north stand monstrosity I do not know?!
If it means an extra player, fair enough, but I just cannot see the numbers getting anywhere close to this kind of figure personally!
I think they should have held back until the new stand gets built, and sold another player as makeweight instead. More passionate lifelong fans surrounded by family, friends and traditions, displaced in favour of money and voiceless tarquins taking selfies on their business trip. Make what you will of it, but in my opinion, it's utter bollocks.
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Unless momentum continues apace on the pitch this will all come crashing down round their ankles
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
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Are people who aren’t able to renew in the same place being offered alternatives, displacing others or currently non ST seats?
If they lose ST rights it’s a disgrace but if it’s a forced move surely it’s non STH who are really losing out as the number of available and affordable tickets is reducing.
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They're still season ticket holders, they'll just be sat elsewhere.
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The response to this on SHA.
"Hope you're all ready for it to be us in a couple of years..." was countered with
"I can’t imagine they would charge those prices in a 62,000 seater stadium."
I'm laughing at something there but can't decide which part.
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They're still season ticket holders, they'll just be sat elsewhere.
But there are people who have sat in the same seat for years, by the same people who are now getting moved because someone will pay considerably more than them. I get why they're a tad miffed
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I do too. I wouldn't like to move either.
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I’ve sat in my seat, which I like, for the grand total of 5 seasons. It’s a good seat I like the view , it’s close enough to the Holte to get the atmos but provides a wonderful view of how the team is set up and playing. If I get moved, yes a slight annoyance but I’ll get a choice of elsewhere possibly close by which I’m sure will be fine. There are quite honestly more important things to worry about in life. Then again I might not be affected so <insouciant French shrug>.
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I've now seen someone evicted in North End Lower, Block R2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1cz1i9n/season_ticket_seat_eviction/
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I've now seen someone evicted in North End Lower, Block R2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1cz1i9n/season_ticket_seat_eviction/
Weird isn’t it, those in R1 and 2 blue M 1and 2, both sides of away fans for premium seating or is that just filling in corner work would you day ?
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I'd be gutted to move (I have no doubt it will happen) - I'm lucky to have a brilliant seat on the half-way line, behind the dugout. It adds to the whole experience being so close to the benches. Add to that, I've sat in that seat since the stand was built and in the Trinity for 40+ years in total. Being moved to a seat in the wings of the stand would change the whole matchday experience - let alone lose the relationships with the people that have grown to be friends.
Modern football is rubbish at times.
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I've now seen someone evicted in North End Lower, Block R2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1cz1i9n/season_ticket_seat_eviction/
Weird isn’t it, those in R1 and 2 blue M 1and 2, both sides of away fans for premium seating or is that just filling in corner work would you day ?
M1 and M2 doesn't surprise me because they are near the halfway line, but R1 and R2 is a surprise, unless they are right in front of where the new Terrace view is going to replace the boxes.
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I'd be gutted to move (I have no doubt it will happen) - I'm lucky to have a brilliant seat on the half-way line, behind the dugout. It adds to the whole experience being so close to the benches. Add to that, I've sat in that seat since the stand was built and in the Trinity for 40+ years in total. Being moved to a seat in the wings of the stand would change the whole matchday experience - let alone lose the relationships with the people that have grown to be friends.
Modern football is rubbish at times.
Several people seem to have been told that behind the dugout is safe. People are being kicked out of places you wouldn't necessarily have predicted.
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Well so far, A5 seems out of scope…for now anyway…
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Yep, we got the news today we aren't being kicked out this season, but our seats were on the approved plans to be upgraded. So it's only a matter a time over the next few years.
The rumours are the boxes are being ripped out and the space reconfigured - which would make sense if fans in the back rows of the Lower Witton and R black are being evicted.
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
As an aside from me agreeing with everything you said, have you had a letter Tim?
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
As an aside from me agreeing with everything you said, have you had a letter Tim?
Not yet, i think we may be safe for now, but regardless of that the principles of what they are doing to others are really piss poor . Absolutely livid .
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
As an aside from me agreeing with everything you said, have you had a letter Tim?
Not yet, i think we may be safe for now, but regardless of that the principles of what they are doing to others are really piss poor . Absolutely livid .
I completely agree (again)
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
I dont think you understand what marginal gains means.
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
I dont think you understand what marginal gains means.
I don't think you can read . Your grammar is also poor .
I said there are better ways to achieve such marginal gains without shitting in your own bed .
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Elite sport is about marginal gains anywhere you can find them. The difference between us and Fulham is a few 0.1% here and there, on and off the pitch. It's why improvement can be tough and it's why Heck will be able to say he's done a good job. As the business will be turning over £300m next season.
Not on the pitch. The difference is a lot more than 0.1%
As for 900 ST holders moving for new middle class fans from Barnt Green / Claverdon / Dorridge etc , there were easier ways to make such a tiny gain rather than piss all over the loyal fans . It's a wanky move and Heck and the owners can go fuck themselves on this one , and Terrace View butchering the Holte.
I dont think you understand what marginal gains means.
I don't think you can read . Your grammar is also poor .
I said there are better ways to achieve such marginal gains without shitting in your own bed .
I'd probably not press the space bar before a full stop if I was accusing somebody else's grammar of being poor.
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Probably best to learn where a full stop goes before crying about an errant apostrophe Coops.
There's lots of things they've done and will do. One day 7000 will be moved out of their seats. This measure is one of them. Probably easier to annoy 900 than 30,000 with a higher than 5% increase.
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If People are ok with what Heck is doing that's up to them . Good luck to you and your marginal gain consent . As for my view , Heck can go fuck himself on this one .
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It doesn't matter what we think. I'm happy where my club is now. I'm going to watch Champions League football next season. The cost of that is 5% more on my ticket, I can't spread out on the lower deck of the Upper Holte anymore and for me that's it. For others it's being uprooted, being denied their usual drinking spot. If that was the price, I'd have paid it years ago personally.
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It doesn't matter what we think. I'm happy where my club is now. I'm going to watch Champions League football next season. The cost of that is 5% more on my ticket, I can't spread out on the lower deck of the Upper Holte anymore and for me that's it. For others it's being uprooted, being denied their usual drinking spot. If that was the price, I'd have paid it years ago personally.
Each to their own. Enjoy.
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I get that people are upset. I would be too if I lost my seat. But what do people expect? We all want to compete and progress, how did people think this would happen?
If we’d built the North, a few thousand would have had to move. Possibly more as it included revamping the Trinity offer too.
If we moved stadium everyone would have to move.
Yes, it’s disappointing for those moving and yes as a wider issue the modern game stinks. But I saw more happier faces at the Villa this season than I’ve seen for a long time. Is the club doing this pretty modest reconfiguration really too much of a price to pay?
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I get that people are upset. I would be too if I lost my seat. But what do people expect? We all want to compete and progress, how did people think this would happen?
If we’d built the North, a few thousand would have had to move. Possibly more as it included revamping the Trinity offer too.
If we moved stadium everyone would have to move.
Yes, it’s disappointing for those moving and yes as a wider issue the modern game stinks. But I saw more happier faces at the Villa this season than I’ve seen for a long time. Is the club doing this pretty modest reconfiguration really too much of a price to pay?
The atmosphere at Villa Park has been non-existent for a lot of the season. It will continue as the ground is gentrified . Enjoy it .
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I get that people are upset. I would be too if I lost my seat. But what do people expect?
As a loyal supporter/customer of 40+ years I expect better than like it or lump it.
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I get that people are upset. I would be too if I lost my seat. But what do people expect?
As a loyal supporter/customer of 40+ years I expect better than like it or lump it.
Whoa , calm down Luke, don't forget they're giving you an £80 voucher to spend at your discretion exclusively back with them .
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I get that people are upset. I would be too if I lost my seat. But what do people expect?
As a loyal supporter/customer of 40+ years I expect better than like it or lump it.
Unfortunately you’ll be considered collateral damage the means to an end
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I’d love to see how they make the north stand lower premium seating?!
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They're still season ticket holders, they'll just be sat elsewhere.
But there are people who have sat in the same seat for years, by the same people who are now getting moved because someone will pay considerably more than them. I get why they're a tad miffed
Isn’t this just commercial sense? Supply and demand? The club offer the seats and choose the price and as customers you decide whether to pay those prices or not. The ST does give you rights beyond the season in question.
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It will be interesting to see how many current season ticket holders who are having to move seats decide not to renew?
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It will be interesting to see how many current season ticket holders who are having to move seats decide not to renew?
I'm sure many will. I've always said that as every year passes I move closer to the door marked "Exit" as the game moves away from what it once was, I can't change that and it won't change my love for The Villa and as some have said, this is the price of success.
Inevitably, as time moves on, the crowd at top flight football will change and it will be the preserve of those with the most money, large scale concerts are already like this and eventually people will say "no more". I have with arguably my favourite singer and songwriter, sorry Bruce, too much. He's touring over here now but I have no regrets and no FOMO and I imagine I will feel the same when I give up attending Villa Park regularly. When your worth can only be measured in economic terms then it's of no worth at all.
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They're still season ticket holders, they'll just be sat elsewhere.
But there are people who have sat in the same seat for years, by the same people who are now getting moved because someone will pay considerably more than them. I get why they're a tad miffed
Isn’t this just commercial sense? Supply and demand? The club offer the seats and choose the price and as customers you decide whether to pay those prices or not. The ST does give you rights beyond the season in question.
Oh don't get me wrong, I totally understand why they're doing it, I'm just saying I understand if some.people would rather not move from where they've sat for years.
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It will be interesting to see how many current season ticket holders who are having to move seats decide not to renew?
I'm sure many will. I've always said that as every year passes I move closer to the door marked "Exit" as the game moves away from what it once was, I can't change that and it won't change my love for The Villa and as some have said, this is the price of success.
Inevitably, as time moves on, the crowd at top flight football will change and it will be the preserve of those with the most money, large scale concerts are already like this and eventually people will say "no more". I have with arguably my favourite singer and songwriter, sorry Bruce, too much. He's touring over here now but I have no regrets and no FOMO and I imagine I will feel the same when I give up attending Villa Park regularly. When your worth can only be measured in economic terms then it's of no worth at all.
I've similar thoughts over the past couple of seasons and keep thinking 'is this my last season' after more than 40 years, and nothing to do with how good or bad we might be on the pitch. I'm sat not far behind the dugouts and still don't know if I'll have to give up my seat.
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You are safe for now, Charlie
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You are safe for now, Charlie
The first I've heard, but thanks Frank.
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I have the same discussion every summer with my Wife - do I renew for the 37th season or not, my wife's reply is "what else are you going to do"
When the seats were removed last summer at the back of the Lower Holte by Purslows gang - were the season ticket holders who where affected by this informed and offered the choice of where to sit?
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There comes a time for all of us to walk away, for a multitude of reasons, be it financial, medical or emotional. Situations like this purely help to trigger difficult decisions to be made, which is completely understandable, and I hope that those who decide to walk away do so knowing that they’ve made the call for themselves rather than being pushed into it, because that’s not a nice thing to live with.
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
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I have the same discussion every summer with my Wife - do I renew for the 37th season or not, my wife's reply is "what else are you going to do"
When the seats were removed last summer at the back of the Lower Holte by Purslows gang - were the season ticket holders who where affected by this informed and offered the choice of where to sit?
Yes. They get to choose from any available seats in the stand.
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It's really bad moving season ticket holders out of their seat which they have had for years.
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
Free or discounted access to the Terrace View or Lower Grounds would be an idea.
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
Free or discounted access to the Terrace View or Lower Grounds would be an idea.
If you can't beat them join them, type approach .
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Whatever the club offered as compensation someone would be on here calling it "a slap in the face". They couldn't win. £80 is pretty generous if you ask me.
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I've just seen a grammar war. How could I have missed a chance to pop up and do some grammar naziing. FFS!
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Whatever the club offered as compensation someone would be on here calling it "a slap in the face". They couldn't win. £80 is pretty generous if you ask me.
It's not £80 even.
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Whatever the club offered as compensation someone would be on here calling it "a slap in the face". They couldn't win. £80 is pretty generous if you ask me.
It's not £80 even.
OK fair enough I was just taking the previous posts on this thread at face value, about the face value. The point remains though, the club are under no obligation to maintain prices or seats, just as equally as fans are under no obligation to buy them. This is a storm in a tea cup.
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It’s a storm in a teacup to those not affected by events. To those that have been shelling out money for their season tickets for years, through thin and thin, it’s a bit of a kick in the teeth. Trying to think of an analogy, it’s like people who have lived in the same run down London council flat for decades, suddenly it becomes trendy and people who never previously showed any interest in setting foot in the neighbourhood suddenly want a piece of the action so the council chuck out the long standing tenants to make way for the new money. That makes sense in my head anyway.
It’s business innit, all about the bottom line and I’m sure Heck is very good at it but let’s not pretend he gives the slightest shit about who he has to fuck over in his pursuit of profit.
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
Free or discounted access to the Terrace View or Lower Grounds would be an idea.
Yeah, take someone's seat off them so you can make more money out of it by making it GA+, then give them GA+ for free. Genius.
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
Yeah, and I suppose you've been following your favourite wine since childhood, had posters of it over your walls and engaged with running battles with fans of other wines in the 80's etc.
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Personally, I think those that loyally sat through the last decade of dross deserve a little more respect now it has come to a more successful time in our history.
Albeit, brief success, so far.
And not just from the club...
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
Yeah, and I suppose you've been following your favourite wine since childhood, had posters of it over your walls and engaged with running battles with fans of other wines in the 80's etc.
Might be the source of inspiration for some his nippers though. Or the odd birthday treat. Probably got more joy out of that vino than we've had for the past 20 years watching this shower.
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Whatever the club offered as compensation someone would be on here calling it "a slap in the face". They couldn't win. £80 is pretty generous if you ask me.
Do you congratulate your superiors for their bravery when they make redundancies?
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Personally, I think those that loyally sat through the last decade of dross deserve a little more respect now it has come to a more successful time in our history.
Albeit, brief success, so far.
And not just from the club...
Isn't that what the Pride Rewards scheme is/was doing. Rewarding loyalty?
(not trying to start a fire here, just posing the question)
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
My favourite post of the week, that'll go down on well on SHA.com if they see it! Whatever your favourite wine is, I'm sure there's something fairly similar you could switch to, and you probably don't drink it every week, and plan your life around drinking a few glasses. Still, I'm interested to know what it is, if you'd care to share with the wine lovers of H&V?
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Lovejoy is a swinger. Calling it.
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A man's got to have a hobby.
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There’s no right or wrong answer here. They’ll be people pissed off and they’ll be people who just shrug their shoulders and get on with it.
Modern football is here for the Villa in all its overblown grotesque and sometimes brilliant way. By being predominantly shit for the best part of 20 years means we’ve been somewhat protected from it but it’s here now and you’ll either have to go with it or decide it’s not for you. Your loyalty means nothing, that dismal defeat away at Wigan you endured means nothing to the club hierarchy, they’re distant memories and the reality is maximum money for your viewing pleasure in the here and now.
It’s sad, change is never easy but we move on. Pp
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
A better wine analogy is that you are no longer considered good enough to even buy your favourite wine regardless of the price but will, in a few weeks, be given the opportunity to rummage around the bargain basement section for a new brand, after everyone else has had first dibs, possibly ending up with the Liebraumilch that is left, which will now become your regular wine of choice which you will have to drink while simultaneously watching others drink your old favourite brand.
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So mapping the seats taken, it seems that so far it's been confirmed that it's parts of:
A2 upper Trinity - I can only assume this is to have a dedicated section for lower grounds
The back few rows of the Witton Lower - to open up the boxes behind?
The back few rows of the North Lower - again to open up the boxes?
Some in the north lower corners - adding more seats / reconfiguring away fans slightly?
Any others?
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Personally, I think those that loyally sat through the last decade of dross deserve a little more respect now it has come to a more successful time in our history.
Albeit, brief success, so far.
And not just from the club...
Isn't that what the Pride Rewards scheme is/was doing. Rewarding loyalty?
(not trying to start a fire here, just posing the question)
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I suppose it depends on whether you think a marketing campaign that involves taking surveys & gaining points on pounds to be able to exchange for a reward is anything other than a marketing campaign that is aimed at getting you to spend more pounds.
I have one of those with Tesco. And the Co-op. And used to have one with my xbox when I played it. And Boots. Etc. Etc.
Im not sure people who have had a seat for the past decade & beyond, would consider that a fair swap though, lol.
But I suppose its a form of loyalty reward, purely because thats what they label it as...
In the context of what we are talking about though, I don't think it's the kind of loyalty that decades of support deserves.
And it certainly doesn't come from other fans saying that it's "no big deal" or "the price of progress".
For the latter, Im reminded of the split in the fanbases that is happening at clubs like Liverpool, etc, where the outside global fans are arguing for a stadium move, bringing in the likes of Qatar as owners, etc, & the loyal local supporters are fully against losing the the soul of the club they have supported for decades, in most cases.
I suppose at some point we have to all look at ourselves & think at what point do we accept the changes & lose the spirit of the club we fell in love with, or whether we cling to our principles & walk away...
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So mapping the seats taken, it seems that so far it's been confirmed that it's parts of:
A2 upper Trinity - I can only assume this is to have a dedicated section for lower grounds
The back few rows of the Witton Lower - to open up the boxes behind?
The back few rows of the North Lower - again to open up the boxes?
Some in the north lower corners - adding more seats / reconfiguring away fans slightly?
Any others?
I thought that the first ones we heard of yesterday were several front rows across the entire upper north stand?
I also heard it was the entire middle Witton lower?
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I just don't quite get the R2 block getting letters. Curious.
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Every week we swallow
Viognier and Condrieu
We even had an old one, from 1982
The boys from Château Grillet
We make wine every year
But now Pinault has bought us
You'll all be drinking beer!
Ale! Ale! Ale!
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I just don't quite get the R2 block getting letters. Curious.
I presume they'll be taking the rows in front of the boxes in the away end too, so maybe the need some of R2 corner to reallocate those as away seats? If not, maybe they are building some more seating in that corner?
Dalian Umbrella - I think you may be right about front of North upper. That seems to be a big change in that stand if it's all about opening up the boxes. Seems like a lot of money to spend on a stand that is well past it's shelf life.
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Every week we swallow
Viognier and Condrieu
We even had an old one, from 1982
The boys from Château Grillet
We make wine every year
But now Pinault has bought us
You'll all be drinking beer!
Ale! Ale! Ale!
excellent.
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Every week we swallow
Viognier and Condrieu
We even had an old one, from 1982
The boys from Château Grillet
We make wine every year
But now Pinault has bought us
You'll all be drinking beer!
Ale! Ale! Ale!
Brilliant!
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I just don't quite get the R2 block getting letters. Curious.
I presume they'll be taking the rows in front of the boxes in the away end too, so maybe the need some of R2 corner to reallocate those as away seats? If not, maybe they are building some more seating in that corner?
Dalian Umbrella - I think you may be right about front of North upper. That seems to be a big change in that stand if it's all about opening up the boxes. Seems like a lot of money to spend on a stand that is well past it's shelf life.
Not sure that having open boxes/seats in between the upper/lower away sections is the smartest plan
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I just don't quite get the R2 block getting letters. Curious.
I presume they'll be taking the rows in front of the boxes in the away end too, so maybe the need some of R2 corner to reallocate those as away seats? If not, maybe they are building some more seating in that corner?
Dalian Umbrella - I think you may be right about front of North upper. That seems to be a big change in that stand if it's all about opening up the boxes. Seems like a lot of money to spend on a stand that is well past it's shelf life.
Not sure that having open boxes/seats in between the upper/lower away sections is the smartest plan
They can market those corporate packages as 5D fully immersive experiences .
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
Free or discounted access to the Terrace View or Lower Grounds would be an idea.
Yeah, take someone's seat off them so you can make more money out of it by making it GA+, then give them GA+ for free. Genius.
You might think that alongside the options that have been offered, they could have offered the opportunity to buy a GA ST in the same seat at a discount this season. There may be people who could afford to do that to retain the seat they would prefer to stay in. After a season they may either have decided to find the money for the full deal, or at least would have had a transitional season of getting used to the idea of moving?
Im
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Every week we swallow
Viognier and Condrieu
We even had an old one, from 1982
The boys from Château Grillet
We make wine every year
But now Pinault has bought us
You'll all be drinking beer!
Ale! Ale! Ale!
Chapeau, had me giggling over my Caprese salad this lunchtime.
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The club should be doing a lot more than an £80 voucher which converts into buying £15 worth of tat for those people that are going to be moved.
Free or discounted access to the Terrace View or Lower Grounds would be an idea.
Yeah, take someone's seat off them so you can make more money out of it by making it GA+, then give them GA+ for free. Genius.
You might think that alongside the options that have been offered, they could have offered the opportunity to buy a GA ST in the same seat at a discount this season. There may be people who could afford to do that to retain the seat they would prefer to stay in. After a season they may either have decided to find the money for the full deal, or at least would have had a transitional season of getting used to the idea of moving?
Im
Agree a significant discount off the padded seat for a season .
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I think you're missing the point with these GA+ seats guys, they're not in the slightest bit interested in the season ticket holders turning up faithfully every week, they want these tickets filled by day trippers that will come and spend a wedge in the club shop on that day too.
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
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I think you're missing the point with these GA+ seats guys, they're not in the slightest bit interested in the season ticket holders turning up faithfully every week, they want these tickets filled by day trippers that will come and spend a wedge in the club shop on that day too.
Yep, we are the fish in the net moaning about the bait they're using to catch all the other fish out there.
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
No, my point is , they would rather fans went a couple of times a year and splashed out for GA+ rather than buying a cheaper ST .
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They obviously want the GA+ sales. But they also want 30k season ticket holders as it's core income with money up front.
Where I do agree with you is the regular fans who are not ST holders will be the ones who are squeezed. Even Claret members will find it harder to get a ticket next season. This is why I think not building the North is a big mistake. But if they had, I still reckon they would have reconfigured the DE boxes and people would still have lost their seats.
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They obviously want the GA+ sales. But they also want 30k season ticket holders as it's core income with money up front.
Where I do agree with you is the regular fans who are not ST holders will be the ones who are squeezed. Even Claret members will find it harder to get a ticket next season. This is why I think not building the North is a big mistake. But if they had, I still reckon they would have reconfigured the DE boxes and people would still have lost their seats.
Yes, I seem to recall them saying that the North would take us up to around 50k and then other changes would be made reconfiguring the other stands. So I expect they still would have made the changes even if they had built the stand.
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You mean 'this' North Stand, redevelopment of which still has its own page on the official website ?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/future/
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
They are not being asked to relocate , they are being told to & given no other choice
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OK Luke. I think we're all aware of that.
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I think the club are going to announce the incredibly attractive ST prices, the fabulous new Adidas kit details, and the Grealish signing all on the same day!
This site would be fun 😁
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
No, my point is , they would rather fans went a couple of times a year and splashed out for GA+ rather than buying a cheaper ST .
That's not what you said, though, Tim. You do this all the time.
The scenario in the last line of your second post may be right, but it doesn't look like they're "reducing the number of ST holders" at all.
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I should look in the Villa Park redevelopment thread but how much is our capacity actually increasing next season with all these configurations?
Surely we're not messing everyone around just to add another 100 seats even if they're premium pricing?
Another two thousand and us up at near enough 45k and I could see more sense.
As someone who only goes to 4-5 homes a season now ultimately this doesn't impact me but plenty of realistic appraisals above. This is Modern Football now and we've belatedly joined the party in terms of how we're going to maximise match going fans under this ownership.
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I think you're missing the point with these GA+ seats guys, they're not in the slightest bit interested in the season ticket holders turning up faithfully every week, they want these tickets filled by day trippers that will come and spend a wedge in the club shop on that day too.
I actually noticed this at a few aways this year without thinking anything of it
But you could be right at Spurs and Fulham especially people were wandering around with brand-new scarves, some half and half’s and different nationalities,
they stuck out like a sore thumb because most of them didn’t know where they were going
But they’d all been spending, I just put it down to tourists in London town but maybe everyone is catching on
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I think you're missing the point with these GA+ seats guys, they're not in the slightest bit interested in the season ticket holders turning up faithfully every week, they want these tickets filled by day trippers that will come and spend a wedge in the club shop on that day too.
I actually noticed this at a few aways this year without thinking anything of it
But you could be right at Spurs and Fulham especially people were wandering around with brand-new scarves, some half and half’s and different nationalities,
they stuck out like a sore thumb because most of them didn’t know where they were going
But they’d all been spending, I just put it down to tourists in London town but maybe everyone is catching on
I was watching a river of a Spurs game in the run in and must've been an Australian channel covering their match as they ran an ad during half time of Spurs announcing a ticket exchange partnership with Australian site.
So they have that, healthy influx of Korean fans wanting to watch Son every game and also generally the attraction of their new ground for London tourists and also probably some fans who come over to watch NFL and then decide they want to see a premier league game there a few months later.
With that demand makes it far easier for them to make decisions like scrapping concession prices for over 65s.
Pretty sad that's where we are so soon after 18 months of empty stands/covid season and what was generally a miserable viewing experience.
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I think you're missing the point with these GA+ seats guys, they're not in the slightest bit interested in the season ticket holders turning up faithfully every week, they want these tickets filled by day trippers that will come and spend a wedge in the club shop on that day too.
I actually noticed this at a few aways this year without thinking anything of it
But you could be right at Spurs and Fulham especially people were wandering around with brand-new scarves, some half and half’s and different nationalities,
they stuck out like a sore thumb because most of them didn’t know where they were going
But they’d all been spending, I just put it down to tourists in London town but maybe everyone is catching on
I was watching a river of a Spurs game in the run in and must've been an Australian channel covering their match as they ran an ad during half time of Spurs announcing a ticket exchange partnership with Australian site.
So they have that, healthy influx of Korean fans wanting to watch Son every game and also generally the attraction of their new ground for London tourists and also probably some fans who come over to watch NFL and then decide they want to see a premier league game there a few months later.
With that demand makes it far easier for them to make decisions like scrapping concession prices for over 65s.
Pretty sad that's where we are so soon after 18 months of empty stands/covid season and what was generally a miserable viewing experience.
Optus Sports run those ads .
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Every week we swallow
Viognier and Condrieu
We even had an old one, from 1982
The boys from Château Grillet
We make wine every year
But now Pinault has bought us
You'll all be drinking beer!
Ale! Ale! Ale!
Standing ovation.
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
Which boxes are being reconfigured ? Not spending more money on north stand to be knocked down in couple of years surely ?
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Reducing the number of ST holders looks like the route now .
You're just making stuff up now Tim.
900 people are being moved, mainly because the boxes are being reconfigured to create more space. That's it. Frustrating and disappointing for those affected, but they're getting to choose seats in their current stands and I guess they'll be allowed to relocate to other stands in the usual relocation window at a later date if they want.
It's shit for those impacted, but they're not being kicked out by the club, just being asked to relocate. The club are trying to compete financially and increasing corporate income is part of that.
We're in the Champions League next year. I hope each and everyone of them finds a seat they are happy with and gets to watch us in our most exciting season in 40 years.
Which boxes are being reconfigured ? Not spending more money on north stand to be knocked down in couple of years surely ?
The Witton Road boxes .
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The Witton Road boxes .
Lane, surely?
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Inevitably, as time moves on, the crowd at top flight football will change and it will be the preserve of those with the most money, large scale concerts are already like this and eventually people will say "no more". I have with arguably my favourite singer and songwriter, sorry Bruce, too much. He's touring over here now but I have no regrets and no FOMO
Yes, Bruce Hornsby has pushed it too far hasn’t he.
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The Witton Road boxes .
Lane, surely?
Witton Lane yep.
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Inevitably, as time moves on, the crowd at top flight football will change and it will be the preserve of those with the most money, large scale concerts are already like this and eventually people will say "no more". I have with arguably my favourite singer and songwriter, sorry Bruce, too much. He's touring over here now but I have no regrets and no FOMO
Yes, Bruce Hornsby has pushed it too far hasn’t he.
Railroading his fans.
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Trying to think of an analogy, it’s like people who have lived in the same run down London council flat for decades, suddenly it becomes trendy and people who never previously showed any interest in setting foot in the neighbourhood suddenly want a piece of the action so the council chuck out the long standing tenants to make way for the new money. That makes sense in my head anyway.
I think you are mis-characterising the role of local authorities in your analogy. To my knowledge they don’t evict social housing tenants in order to rent properties to private tenants because an area ‘becomes trendy’ in London, or anywhere else.
A more plausible scenario is that social housing tenants exercise right to buy and subsequently sell their properties on the open market for a massive profit to whoever can afford them (either owner occupiers or private landlords). The local authority is then forced to expensively build new homes to replenish its diminished social housing stock, whilst running the risk that these will also be sold for less than they cost to build when tenants exercise right to buy. In this context the local authority cross-subsidises new social housing by also developing new homes for private sale. The higher the sale receipts, the more social housing can be built.
All of this happens because there is demand in an area. After all, there is no point in exercising right to buy if you can’t make a profit on the property. The end result is that prices and rent levels increase above what some people can afford. However, none of this is the local authority’s fault.
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From what I’ve read, the ordinary fans, that are being moved, are being shafted again. They are saying that the Club has informed them that they have got to move seats but, can only apply for any seats that are left after all other season ticket holders, who aren’t being moved have said if they are renewing. In other words, the chances are, their choices will be shit seats no one else wants. Doesn’t sound great for them.
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It has to be that way if fans are being moved. Otherwise they'd be taking someone else's seat. And then that person would have to move. And repeat.
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Trying to think of an analogy, it’s like people who have lived in the same run down London council flat for decades, suddenly it becomes trendy and people who never previously showed any interest in setting foot in the neighbourhood suddenly want a piece of the action so the council chuck out the long standing tenants to make way for the new money. That makes sense in my head anyway.
I think you are mis-characterising the role of local authorities in your analogy. To my knowledge they don’t evict social housing tenants in order to rent properties to private tenants because an area ‘becomes trendy’ in London, or anywhere else.
A more plausible scenario is that social housing tenants exercise right to buy and subsequently sell their properties on the open market for a massive profit to whoever can afford them (either owner occupiers or private landlords). The local authority is then forced to expensively build new homes to replenish its diminished social housing stock, whilst running the risk that these will also be sold for less than they cost to build when tenants exercise right to buy. In this context the local authority cross-subsidises new social housing by also developing new homes for private sale. The higher the sale receipts, the more social housing can be built.
All of this happens because there is demand in an area. After all, there is no point in exercising right to buy if you can’t make a profit on the property. The end result is that prices and rent levels increase above what some people can afford. However, none of this is the local authority’s fault.
Credit where it's due , top rant, completely off topic but nonetheless decent .
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Trying to think of an analogy, it’s like people who have lived in the same run down London council flat for decades, suddenly it becomes trendy and people who never previously showed any interest in setting foot in the neighbourhood suddenly want a piece of the action so the council chuck out the long standing tenants to make way for the new money. That makes sense in my head anyway.
I think you are mis-characterising the role of local authorities in your analogy. To my knowledge they don’t evict social housing tenants in order to rent properties to private tenants because an area ‘becomes trendy’ in London, or anywhere else.
A more plausible scenario is that social housing tenants exercise right to buy and subsequently sell their properties on the open market for a massive profit to whoever can afford them (either owner occupiers or private landlords). The local authority is then forced to expensively build new homes to replenish its diminished social housing stock, whilst running the risk that these will also be sold for less than they cost to build when tenants exercise right to buy. In this context the local authority cross-subsidises new social housing by also developing new homes for private sale. The higher the sale receipts, the more social housing can be built.
All of this happens because there is demand in an area. After all, there is no point in exercising right to buy if you can’t make a profit on the property. The end result is that prices and rent levels increase above what some people can afford. However, none of this is the local authority’s fault.
Erm, ok.
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Trying to think of an analogy, it’s like people who have lived in the same run down London council flat for decades, suddenly it becomes trendy and people who never previously showed any interest in setting foot in the neighbourhood suddenly want a piece of the action so the council chuck out the long standing tenants to make way for the new money. That makes sense in my head anyway.
I think you are mis-characterising the role of local authorities in your analogy. To my knowledge they don’t evict social housing tenants in order to rent properties to private tenants because an area ‘becomes trendy’ in London, or anywhere else.
A more plausible scenario is that social housing tenants exercise right to buy and subsequently sell their properties on the open market for a massive profit to whoever can afford them (either owner occupiers or private landlords). The local authority is then forced to expensively build new homes to replenish its diminished social housing stock, whilst running the risk that these will also be sold for less than they cost to build when tenants exercise right to buy. In this context the local authority cross-subsidises new social housing by also developing new homes for private sale. The higher the sale receipts, the more social housing can be built.
All of this happens because there is demand in an area. After all, there is no point in exercising right to buy if you can’t make a profit on the property. The end result is that prices and rent levels increase above what some people can afford. However, none of this is the local authority’s fault.
I think if you do your internet searches you’ll find such forced moves out of London have happened. Add on ‘initiatives’ like the bedroom tax, and forced moves have taken place in a different.
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The Home Loss Compensation Regs would potentially apply then.
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To try and get this thread back towards the topic, what do people reckon were the main factors leading to the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War?
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Dear fan,
We've had a great season and have finally reached the land of milk and honey. Now, shift yourself to the nose bleeds so we can sell your great view of many years for a shit ton of money. Alternatively, f**k off.
Up the Villa, etc, etc!
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To try and get this thread back towards the topic, what do people reckon were the main factors leading to the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War?
Barcelona and Real Madrid putting up their season ticket prices
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To try and get this thread back towards the topic, what do people reckon were the main factors leading to the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War?
Barcelona and Real Madrid putting up their season ticket prices
Haha
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It is the History and debate is why i come on here 😃
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It is the History and debate is why i come on here 😃
It's the reason Blose and Olbiyun fans refer to us as 'the historians'.
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It is the History and debate is why i come on here 😃
It's the reason Blose and Olbiyun fans refer to us as 'the historians'.
Yes, but we have a history to talk about.
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It is the History and debate is why i come on here 😃
It's the reason Blose and Olbiyun fans refer to us as 'the historians'.
Yes, but we have a history to talk about.
So do they - ours.
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I’m in Witton/DE M5 and haven’t had a letter so I’m assuming I’ll be ok
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I just tried to log in and renew my season ticket but it looks like the website is broke or something?
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I just tried to log in and renew my season ticket but it looks like the website is broke or something?
Don't think you can renew yet anyway .
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I think the renewal date is from Monday 3rd June? waiting to see if it is just 5% increase
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I think the renewal date is from Monday 3rd June? waiting to see if it is just 5% increase
I appreciate that the figure was mentioned by Heck but until I see it in writing I will remain sceptical, there has been an awful lot of good news since then.......
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I sent a Twitter DM to AVFCSupport this morning and have had a reply to say that my seat in LTR C4 is safe.
I've found that this method of communication is best these days
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Anyone know yet whether the V.12 interest-free option will be available this year?
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I sent a Twitter DM to AVFCSupport this morning and have had a reply to say that my seat in LTR C4 is safe.
I've found that this method of communication is best these days
Safe from what? Small pox? Melanoma? Cholangitis?
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The Witton Road boxes .
Lane, surely?
That’s a big expansion plan, surely😂
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I sent a Twitter DM to AVFCSupport this morning and have had a reply to say that my seat in LTR C4 is safe.
I've found that this method of communication is best these days
Safe from what? Small pox? Melanoma? Cholangitis?
Plastic explosive.
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Anyone know yet whether the V.12 interest-free option will be available this year?
No idea but I certainly hope so.
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Anyone know yet whether the V.12 interest-free option will be available this year?
I think they're looking at 25 year mortgage options on some of the seat packages.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
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I sent a Twitter DM to AVFCSupport this morning and have had a reply to say that my seat in LTR C4 is safe.
I've found that this method of communication is best these days
Safe from what? Small pox? Melanoma? Cholangitis?
Gentrification :)
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
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duplicate post.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
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That and the impatient gits who get frustrated at the endless queue in front of them who can't get it to work on their phone!
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
That would be me from time to time
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From the FAB minutes:
"We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply."
This may be a bit analogue of me, but I think this is a retrograde step. We've all had to miss matches owing to illness/work etc and duly given our card to family or friend. (And yes, I have tried the Villa re-sale scheme and had only one re-sale in four attempts.)
I couldn't attend the last home match because I was away for a week, so my daughter had my ST card to use for my paid-for seat. Would it be possible under a digital-only scheme to upload your ST to another smartphone or would you have to give the person your smartphone to enable them to use the ST? So, in the case of my daughter, she would have had my smartphone for a week!? As if... Bonkers!
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You can reallocate your ticket to a friend (by phoning the club) and they get a printed version. Not sure if they will curtail this or start sharing an admin fee.
The resale used to work really well, but now they are trying to force the sale of GA+ tickets last season the resale seats simply were not getting released until the very last minute, if at all. When demand is at a 40 year high, it's crazy that resale is harder now than at any point since promotion.
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Ever get the feeling you're not wanted?
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If you have a free half day you can phone the club to change the ticket
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Another kick in the bollocks then .
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It’s a little ridiculous that they haven’t sent out the renewal figures yet. They’re just drip feeding info, it’s gone from being 5% increase, to now possibly more if you have under 18 and under 14s. All this with less than a week to go before the window opens.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
That would be me from time to time
That would be a lot of people from time to time. Holidays, Christmas, family events, work etc
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
That would be me from time to time
That would be a lot of people from time to time. Holidays, Christmas, family events, work etc
Ridiculous KO times that make it impossible to get to the ground on time or away from .
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Liverpool season ticket holders are able to share their tickets with friends and family as long as they are linked to their accounts. If they do the same then that’s not too bad.
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It would be a very sad day when life long, loyal Villa supporters are priced out, especially families where it's no longer affordable to take the kids along. Without having to read the whole thread, have the club maintained the installment plan option for purchasing season tickets?
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It would be a very sad day when life long, loyal Villa supporters are priced out, especially families where it's no longer affordable to take the kids along. Without having to read the whole thread, have the club maintained the installment plan option for purchasing season tickets?
TBC.
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They will tell us when they can be bothered.
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Why would you want season tickets to go on sale before May payday you bunch of moaning cranks. 5 week month, Athens semi, long trips to Brighton and Palace, kids away for half term. I'm glad it's Monday.
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Why would you want season tickets to go on sale before May payday you bunch of moaning cranks. 5 week month, Athens semi, long trips to Brighton and Palace, kids away for half term. I'm glad it's Monday.
It’s not about when they go on sale it’s why be so secretive about how much they’re going be. They obviously know, they don’t exactly make the figure up 5 minutes before they go out.
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Its 5% more, it's no secret.
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Its 5% more, it's no secret.
You obviously didn’t read the part about them saying that under 18s and under 14s will increase more than 5% and only just confirming no change in bands. If it’s a price increase similar to wolves kids tickets then it’d be nice know.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
That would be me from time to time
That would be a lot of people from time to time. Holidays, Christmas, family events, work etc
You can email the club at ticketsales@avfc.co.uk and ask them to reallocate your ticket to someone if you can’t go. It just needs to be someone with a Fan ID. They then email an e-ticket with the other person’s name on it. They don’t allow you to sell it on yourself, but passing it on is fine.
We’ve done it loads and emailing is much easier than phoning as you don’t have to hang about. They usually sort it the same day but 24 hours tops despite the fact that the response will say ‘up to 3 days’.
Of course with the ST waiting list they may start to have a maximum number of times you can pass it on, but they haven’t yet.
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Its 5% more, it's no secret.
You obviously didn’t read the part about them saying that under 18s and under 14s will increase more than 5% and only just confirming no change in bands. If it’s a price increase similar to wolves kids tickets then it’d be nice know.
Yeah it's not just 5% , it's all the underhand stuff that is coming with it . Seems all Prem clubs are treating the fans the same way though . So get used to it or move aside it seems .
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The maximum for kids will be 12% and zones aren't changing.
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12% is way above inflation. As is 5% .
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Since when were season tickets indexed to inflation?
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Since pointy shoes and boot-cut jeans were a thing.
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Since when were season tickets indexed to inflation?
And ?
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Since when were season tickets indexed to inflation?
And ?
You tell me Coops, you dafty.
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Since when were season tickets indexed to inflation?
And ?
What's with the recent appearance of superfluous spaces before and after punctuation marks? You never used to do that.
Are you basically some form of collective like, errr, another poster?
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The maximum for kids will be 12% and zones aren't changing.
Which if it is 12% is ridiculous, as wasn’t it something like 50% increase last season?
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I have received nothing about renewing yet with prices and deadline dates. Presumably, information hasn’t been sent to last season’s season ticket holders yet?
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My eldest turns 18 this year, will his renewal be as an adult or U18? Also, did the have an U21 price last year or did they get rid of it?
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I have received nothing about renewing yet with prices and deadline dates. Presumably, information hasn’t been sent to last season’s season ticket holders yet?
I believe renewal information is being released on Monday June 3rd.
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Surprised that the number of season ticket holders that we have has dropped from 29,000 to 27,000
So I am going to be charged potentially an additional £25.00 because I do not have a mobile phone.
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We're capped at 30,000 season tickets aren't we?
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We're capped at 30,000 season tickets aren't we?
Not anymore. We're down to 27k standard season tickets and they're not selling any this summer.
I think they will be trying to sell GA+ season tickets though in the likes of the Terrace View.
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How are we going down 2,000 season tickets? How does that work?
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How are we going down 2,000 season tickets? How does that work?
I guess through non renewals over the last 2-3 years. Remember, they didn't sell any new ST last summer either.
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We're capped at 30,000 season tickets aren't we?
Not anymore. We're down to 27k standard season tickets and they're not selling any this summer.
I think they will be trying to sell GA+ season tickets though in the likes of the Terrace View.
I did mention the other day that it seems (by stealth) they are reducing the number of ST holders to help increase revenue by various means. ST holders who miss games like me and sell back to the club is a nice earner for them too with the 20% cut and then reselling at matchday pricing. The Digital ST cards should increase this revenue stream nicely for them.
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It now makes sense why they won't tell you where you are in the waiting list, because you won't have moved.
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It now makes sense why they won't tell you where you are in the waiting list, because you won't have moved.
That’s a good point, a curious lack of updates.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
Or maybe rather than the away ticket conspiracy the people that want a physical ticket are like me like to have a keep sake, I've kept every ticket I've brought so I'm not happy with it going digital. Also you have the ones that have a phone with a not very good battery so keeping it charged for an 8pm kick off might be a challenge.
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
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A return from Holiday and a letter to find I’m one of the 900. Ah well looks like a shift across the aisle into A1 or a bigger shift to A3 is on the cards. Let’s see what July brings.
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With season tickets going digital from next season, am I able to put more than one person's season ticket in one phone's apple wallet?
Thanks.
Have Villa said that this is now going to be compulsory rather than optional ?
From the FAB minutes:
We are moving to digital only so that will be the default. Only by exception will a card be issued, and an online form will need completing to request a card. Any fee for this service is TBC.
Clearly elderly or disabled who have a medical requirement will be given a card free of charge, and we will identify how fans can apply.
There's a few clubs doing this, some are charging £25 for a card. I appreciate a lot of people prefer a physical card, but honestly, it's not something that I can get that worked up over, particularly when the club has said they'll try to deal with exceptions. What percentage of people attending would you reckon don't have a smartphone?
Personally I prefer to have it on my phone. Means I don't even have to carry my wallet around.
I think the people who will kick up a fuss about it are the ones that share their ticket around, match to match. Makes the process pretty difficult, and I'm guessing this is what the club is gunning for.
Or maybe rather than the away ticket conspiracy the people that want a physical ticket are like me like to have a keep sake, I've kept every ticket I've brought so I'm not happy with it going digital. Also you have the ones that have a phone with a not very good battery so keeping it charged for an 8pm kick off might be a challenge.
I don’t bother carrying my phone to the ground as never get any signal so will have to remember it every week :-)
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
Good idea. Drop, lose or phone conks out on the way to the ground and you're buggered.
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
Good idea. Drop, lose or phone conks out on the way to the ground and you're buggered.
No chance. The whole purpose of digital is to prevent people from committing the cardinal sin of passing their ST onto a mate.
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An analogy might be that my favourite wine was owned by an old french family for hundreds of years and you could pick a bottle up for a reasonable price (in my opinion). In 2012 they got bought out by Francois Pinault's Artemis Group to go with their portfolio of luxury brands. the price doubled overnight.
Did you find me on here moaning? Did I get an £80 voucher? No because I am not precious.
My favourite post of the week, that'll go down on well on SHA.com if they see it! Whatever your favourite wine is, I'm sure there's something fairly similar you could switch to, and you probably don't drink it every week, and plan your life around drinking a few glasses. Still, I'm interested to know what it is, if you'd care to share with the wine lovers of H&V?
Chateau Grillet.
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
Good idea. Drop, lose or phone conks out on the way to the ground and you're buggered.
No chance. The whole purpose of digital is to prevent people from committing the cardinal sin of passing their ST onto a mate.
So what does happen if your phone conks out? Phones have to die one day and it could be on the way to the match
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
Good idea. Drop, lose or phone conks out on the way to the ground and you're buggered.
No chance. The whole purpose of digital is to prevent people from committing the cardinal sin of passing their ST onto a mate.
So what does happen if your phone conks out? Phones have to die one day and it could be on the way to the match
Perhaps a fine , 2 game ban . Reasonable.
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If its digital they should give a print at home option for each game so people can have a backup.
Good idea. Drop, lose or phone conks out on the way to the ground and you're buggered.
No chance. The whole purpose of digital is to prevent people from committing the cardinal sin of passing their ST onto a mate.
So what does happen if your phone conks out? Phones have to die one day and it could be on the way to the match
I know, not like good old paper, which of course can never be lost, and is physically indestructible.
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If your phone packs in you go to the ticket office and tell them. Then they sort you out.
It's really that simple.
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And your phones not switching on and you have no ID on you. Then what Einstein.
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And your phones not switching on and you have no ID on you. Then what Einstein.
He obviously asks you.
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And your phones not switching on and you have no ID on you. Then what Einstein.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Happened to me the other year. Left both my phone and wallet at home. Ticket office printed mine and my boys season ticket seats out for us. Easy peasy.
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And your phones not switching on and you have no ID on you. Then what Einstein.
If you don’t have any ID on you, chances are you don’t have your ST card either, as those things tend to live in the same place. You lose your wallet or leave it at home - you will need to be going to the ticket office anyway.
I’ve managed to arrive without my ST in the past and they just check you out with name/dob/address/seat number etc at the Ticket Office. I’ve never had to produce ID on the basis that it’s unlikely anyone trying to blag their way in would have that level of information about you, & if they did, they’d probably have better things to do than go to Villa Park with it.
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Happened to me the other year. Left both my phone and wallet at home. Ticket office printed mine and my boys season ticket seats out for us. Easy peasy.
Who’s served you? Was he called Albert?
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I just remembered that a few years ago, they all told us to upload photos of our faces, so I'm assuming they have access to that if they need to verify who you are.
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And your phones not switching on and you have no ID on you. Then what Einstein.
Then you’d be a bit of thickie who doesn’t deserve any help.
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I was paying monthly last year for mine, my 13 year old and 17 year olds season tickets. I obviously know the total price and total monthly price. But i can’t find the total breakdown of each ticket and cant recall that info now. Anyone know how to find this out? Just keen to know the actual percentage rise for each one when info is circulated about new prices tomorrow?
Although as my lad has turned 14 he’ll be moving to under 18 on top of any percentage rise.
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There is nothing currently on the OS regarding actual prices. I'm assuming all will be revealed tomorrow.
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
Mine says the same, I guess all will be revealed tomorrow.
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Have read it again and I think it means we’re now in safe standing.
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
Mine too. Bit worried now.
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About 5 years ago my then 11 year olds ST was £99 I think
Under 14 was around £199
Super value and probably season-ticket holders for life
It’s obviously increased over the years, I’m not sure what the cheapest season-ticket would be now, but it probably doesn’t fit into Chris Hecks maximising profit for every seat policy
But that’s his job, and this is where we are
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
L5 row JJ
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
L5 row JJ
Cheers, just read the email and we’re also in the safe standing are in L4. The wording is slightly ambiguous but I think we’re staying in roughly the same space.
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Jane & I are in Z which is lower of the lower and not an area they said they were designating for rail seating. So not sure what this means?
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
L5 row JJ
Me and the kids had the same email, says our seat numbers are changing and we will be allocated the best comparable seat to our current season tickets and that we are now in safe standing. We are in Lower Holte L2 row MM, been there for years. Cant work out if they are just putting rail seating where we normally sit, meaning the seat numbers naturally change or that they are moving us to make way for displaced season ticket holders.
We love where we sit, built up some great relationships over the years and its also in a lower priced zone, so will be doubly pissed off if they’ve moved us to a higher priced zone.
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
L5 row JJ
Me and the kids had the same email, says our seat numbers are changing and we will be allocated the best comparable seat to our current season tickets and that we are now in safe standing. We are in Lower Holte L2 row MM, been there for years. Cant work out if they are just putting rail seating where we normally sit, meaning the seat numbers naturally change or that they are moving us to make way for displaced season ticket holders.
We love where we sit, built up some great relationships over the years and its also in a lower priced zone, so will be doubly pissed off if they’ve moved us to a higher priced zone.
Our email doesn’t say we are now in safe standing (L7z) but it is otherwise the same (change seat number/comparable seat blah blah).
This is completely out of the blue with no explanation. Even within the email it says people in the other 3 stands are having to be ‘displaced’ but nothing about the Holte End. So what’s the deal here? On the bright side it gives me reason to believe the move is almost a technicality (a seat number but barely any spatial move) but the word ‘comparable’ covers a lot of ground doesn’t it?
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The email says my seat number has changed in the lower Holte but not that I’m physically moving seats?
What block are you in, Richard?
L5 row JJ
Me and the kids had the same email, says our seat numbers are changing and we will be allocated the best comparable seat to our current season tickets and that we are now in safe standing. We are in Lower Holte L2 row MM, been there for years. Cant work out if they are just putting rail seating where we normally sit, meaning the seat numbers naturally change or that they are moving us to make way for displaced season ticket holders.
We love where we sit, built up some great relationships over the years and its also in a lower priced zone, so will be doubly pissed off if they’ve moved us to a higher priced zone.
Our email doesn’t say we are now in safe standing (L7z) but it is otherwise the same (change seat number/comparable seat blah blah).
This is completely out of the blue with no explanation. Even within the email it says people in the other 3 stands are having to be ‘displaced’ but nothing about the Holte End. So what’s the deal here? On the bright side it gives me reason to believe the move is almost a technicality (a seat number but barely any spatial move) but the word ‘comparable’ covers a lot of ground doesn’t it?
It does. I had two thoughts - one they might be trying to get a few more in which is why the seat numbers are changing or they’re altering the numbering system to reflect the difference between rail seats and normal seats.
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It does. I had two thoughts - one they might be trying to get a few more in which is why the seat numbers are changing or they’re altering the numbering system to reflect the difference between rail seats and normal seats.
I’m not sure what it means in an area that isn’t rail seating though? They can’t reduce the width or the number of gangways surely and the seats themselves can’t be any narrower so how do the numbers in the front lower change?
We can only wait but I’m not happy at having this sprung on me with so little warning or explanation!
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From FAB meeting minutes I took it to mean that anything above the entrance stairwell to the lower Holte was to be safe standing.
Guessing the physical seat won’t be in the exact same spot, thus a slight change. Poor from the club again though as there’s been no specifics.
We are Row T L2 and had nothing but as everyone stands they may as well have just put safe standing in the entire lower.
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I'm joining the growing band of the confused and worried. I was under the impression that those who were being moved had already been notified.
I'm in the North Stand Upper and my email states:
"Your seat number has changed. The Club has ensured that you have been allocated the most comparable seat to your existing season ticket seat"
I'm lucky enough to sit in T2 front row and be surrounded by people whose company I really enjoy. I had braced myself to face a move for a couple of years whilst the long overdue re-built of the stand took place but I'll be very disappointed to be uprooted from the seat I have enjoyed for many years for no discernible benefit.
Anybody able to clarify what this email means?
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With all of those emails, seems to me you are all in the same general area bar a metre or two slight move but all the other changes just mean new numbering systems / slight adjustment to number of seats in a row.
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It does. I had two thoughts - one they might be trying to get a few more in which is why the seat numbers are changing or they’re altering the numbering system to reflect the difference between rail seats and normal seats.
I’m not sure what it means in an area that isn’t rail seating though? They can’t reduce the width or the number of gangways surely and the seats themselves can’t be any narrower so how do the numbers in the front lower change?
We can only wait but I’m not happy at having this sprung on me with so little warning or explanation!
Yes, don’t want to start panicking as of yet. On holiday in Crete this week and travelling back tomorrow, so no doubt will try and absorb what info has come out when home, tired after a days travelling.
I understand there can’t be tailored email comms for each individual, but its so ambiguous it makes me paranoid, with the direction of travel the club are taking.
So as it stands, I’m presuming ill have a 5% rise on my ticket, my lads moving to under 18, my daughter staying in that age bracket, but i have no idea what the % rise on those tickets will be. And now I’m hoping we are just being shunted along a bit because of rail seating, but there is the possibility that I could be moved and maybe even out of our price zone as long as its a ‘comparable’ seat.
Not a great email from the club really.
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Witton Upper P6 , front section. No emails , no comms at all.
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Trinity Upper A5 Row F - I've had the general season ticket email saying that renewals start tomorrow for a period of 3 weeks. Think our block has come through unscathed, thank McGrath!
...My wallet not so much - A 5% increase means mine is probably going to cost £908! 😭
Still, I'm lucky I can afford it, and will pay it, but something surely has to be done on a league wide scale (and soon!), as this constant cash grab to keep up with the City's and Chelsea's, whilst glancing over our shoulder at FFP, is unsustainable. The whole thing is going to come crashing down within the next few years surely.
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My seat numbers are going to change but I am assuming it will be the same seats. North Upper T3 Row V.
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Received an email a couple of hours ago. Price not confirmed, though it does say the increase is limited to 5%.
What is more interesting is the sentence:
"Your seat is now within a designated area of licensed standing. You will be able to renew when the renewal window opens on Monday, June 3rd."
We are in the UpperHolte, K2, Row 18. I might not have being paying attention, but I didn't think we would switch to safe standing. Though to be honest, I'm quite happy with that. UTV
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Witton Upper P6 , front section. No emails , no comms at all.
Pretty much same area as you and no emails at all
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I'd hate to be a ticket office employee tomorrow.
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Indeed. Just had an email to say that my seat (Holte lower, row HH Seat.111) will now be safe standing
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Were all the areas that are now Safe Standing in reality standing anyway ?
Just wondering if people who formerly sat are being forced to now stand
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Witton Upper P6 , front section. No emails , no comms at all.
Pretty much same area as you and no emails at all
We are in P4 front section and one of the three of us has had the generic email this afternoon…nothing specific to seats changing etc so presuming will get something tomorrow and they’ll be 5% up on last season…same seat, same great view, same marvellous concourse & service :-)
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It's a really confusing email from the club. As others have said, we've been in our seats for years & know all the people round us (for better or worse!) Saying that they're changing to a "comparable seat" isn't really filling me with confidence.
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Were all the areas that are now Safe Standing in reality standing anyway ?
Just wondering if people who formerly sat are being forced to now stand
In the Holte Upper, K2 row 18, we seem to be at the midpoint, most people behind us stand, and most in the rows in front typically sit. Though what is happening on the pitch does make a difference. UTV
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Lower Holte where we sit has been standing since lockdown tbh.
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My son and I are Holte End Lower, L7, row OO, been here a few years and love the view. He’s not renewing this season for various reasons but I will be. Not the most of informative emails to be honest though if it’s safe standing in roughly the same area it shouldn’t make too much difference.
Let’s see what tomorrow brings.
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Were all the areas that are now Safe Standing in reality standing anyway ?
Just wondering if people who formerly sat are being forced to now stand
They gave up trying to enforce seating years ago so everyone just stands anyway so in practice nothing much will change other than it now being deemed safe.
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I'd hate to be a ticket office employee tomorrow.
Tell me why , I don't like Monday's .
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Were all the areas that are now Safe Standing in reality standing anyway ?
Just wondering if people who formerly sat are being forced to now stand
They gave up trying to enforce seating years ago so everyone just stands anyway so in practice nothing much will change other than it now being deemed safe.
More appealing for, errm, those of us of a certain age, as you now get something to lean against.
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Lower Holte where we sit has been standing since lockdown tbh.
Same where we sit in L2
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I also had the email re: you will have a new seat number., etc. And what I presume are my new seat details are now on the official site under my season ticket details. Same block, same row, my seat number has changed by about 15 seat numbers. I am happy with that.
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Yeah, few mates have logged into their ticket account and can see two seats against their 23/24 season ticket. The second seat would appear to be the new seat allocated for next season. Bunch of them have been bumped over from L3 to L2, not sure why.
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Were all the areas that are now Safe Standing in reality standing anyway ?
Just wondering if people who formerly sat are being forced to now stand
They gave up trying to enforce seating years ago so everyone just stands anyway so in practice nothing much will change other than it now being deemed safe.
More appealing for, errm, those of us of a certain age, as you now get something to lean against.
I hadn’t thought about it that way but you’re right it will be handy but don’t tell Heck otherwise he’ll claim it’s an add on and charge us more.
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In the Lower Holte - have sat / stood in the same seat for so many seasons!!!! L5 Row DD - now received the same email - "your seat number has changed" so disappointed, the only reason I renewed for many seasons was because of the lads / ladies who sit by me etc..
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I also had the email re: you will have a new seat number., etc. And what I presume are my new seat details are now on the official site under my season ticket details. Same block, same row, my seat number has changed by about 15 seat numbers. I am happy with that.
Thanks for the tip. It looks like me and the kids are being moved over from L2 to L1, same row. Thats a bit far over to the corner of the Holte for my liking and hopefully not a restricted view. The alternative will be to look for a reallocation which will be another hike on top of whatever rises are coming.
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Just looked moving from L5 to L4 - same row and seat number
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Yeah, few mates have logged into their ticket account and can see two seats against their 23/24 season ticket. The second seat would appear to be the new seat allocated for next season. Bunch of them have been bumped over from L3 to L2, not sure why.
Just looked at myself and son's ticket, it the same, luckily we are together,, don't know what they going to do with the original seats because our only two are directly next to the disabled section lower holtle meaning one else can a seat next to us, bloody perfect
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I was wondering the same - if I am moving into a new block / seat - this must mean the person who was sitting their last season has now been moved as well.
I wonder in total how many fans have been moved in the Holte End and why are they moving us? it cannot be for corporate reasons.
I was so looking forward to this season after all the years of turning up to watch shite, and now I just feel so let down by the club.
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It's saying that my original seats is now in the designated area of license standing, here's a good idea ask me first if I am happy to stay there instead of moving us
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Jus a thought, perhaps the block has changed and not the seat location? so you have the same seat but a different reference point?
L2 has now become L1??
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It's saying that my original seats is now in the designated area of license standing, here's a good idea ask me first if I am happy to stay there instead of moving us
I think getting the email about being moved the day before the tickets are open for renew is shit, especially without any info on where we’re being moved to, its only information on here thats helped me find out where I'm being moved to.
By the looks of it we are being moved yards, but to a section i wouldn't of chose to sit in, the view will be worse.
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I keep getting an error message.
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I keep getting an error message.
Me too. I have proved I’m not a robot 23 times & when I get to the page it tells me I have no ST to renew, yet when Jane logs in, I am still next to her but we’ve moved 2 seats along!
Jane can see my ST but I can’t - so at least I’m not worried that it’s disappeared. I’m not paying for a week or so yet anyway so I’ll leave it til then to worry if it’s still not there.
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I keep getting an error message.
Me too. I have proved I’m not a robot 23 times & when I get to the page it tells me I have no ST to renew, yet when Jane logs in, I am still next to her but we’ve moved 2 seats along!
Jane can see my ST but I can’t - so at least I’m not worried that it’s disappeared. I’m not paying for a week or so yet anyway so I’ll leave it til then to worry if it’s still not there.
Mine are not on the renewal page either, it shows nothing to renew, however if you click the season ticket placement on the left hand side of the screen (on a pc) they show last seasons, so guessing they are still there just hidden away, almost like it is on purpose to stop any of us locating them easily.
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I keep getting an error message.
Me too. I have proved I’m not a robot 23 times & when I get to the page it tells me I have no ST to renew, yet when Jane logs in, I am still next to her but we’ve moved 2 seats along!
Jane can see my ST but I can’t - so at least I’m not worried that it’s disappeared. I’m not paying for a week or so yet anyway so I’ll leave it til then to worry if it’s still not there.
Same here, saying no ticket to renew at this time. I’ll try again in a day or two.
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The window might start at 5 pm, like for away tickets.
Just hoping👍👍
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I'd have thought they'd have said a time and would be morning. Very strange.
I'm in the Upper Holte, so my email was just a normal one. But I'd be gutted if my seat was re-numbered.
I used to sit in seat 66 on my own because me and my mate didn't want to jinx our relegation survival by changing seats. Then when we got relegated and we moved seats together, I picked seat 99 as a way of counteracting any bad juju from shifting our arses a dozen meters or so.
I'm not saying that I'm single-handedly responsible for everything good that's happened in the last six years, but it's definitely unwise to disturb the natural order.
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I keep getting an error message.
Same here- "There were no subscriptions found that could be renewed at this time."
Me too. I have proved I’m not a robot 23 times & when I get to the page it tells me I have no ST to renew, yet when Jane logs in, I am still next to her but we’ve moved 2 seats along!
Jane can see my ST but I can’t - so at least I’m not worried that it’s disappeared. I’m not paying for a week or so yet anyway so I’ll leave it til then to worry if it’s still not there.
Same here, saying no ticket to renew at this time. I’ll try again in a day or two.
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No renewal option, but if I look at membership details and then look at season tickets under there, it has last seasons seat with all tickets used and then another entry, still saying 23/24 that has 19 tickets and presumably the new seat number, which is now T6 instead of T5 and seat 123 instead of 119.
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I can see I have new seat numbers still in L3 lower Holte but a few places along maybe - however it says they are for 23/24 with 19 games remaining but the option to buy is not there. Probably best to wait a couple of days
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I'm getting the following message: "Season 2022-23 Season is open! Renew your subscription now!"
Great! Really looking forward to seeing how that nice Mr Gerrard gets on!
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I'm getting the following message: "Season 2022-23 Season is open! Renew your subscription now!"
Great! Really looking forward to seeing how that nice Mr Gerrard gets on!
Can I come to the Watford debacle with you again?
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I'd guess that people getting messages that their seat number has changed probably won't in reality have moved, or not on an individual basis anyway. Won't it just be renumbering / slight shuffling up to deal with revised stairwell layouts? I assume people all around them will be shuffling in the same way, so there won't be much tangible change to their position relative to mates / acquaintances or in terms of view?
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I'd guess that people getting messages that their seat number has changed probably won't in reality have moved, or not on an individual basis anyway. Won't it just be renumbering / slight shuffling up to deal with revised stairwell layouts? I assume people all around them will be shuffling in the same way, so there won't be much tangible change to their position relative to mates / acquaintances or in terms of view?
Seems that way in my case Chris, it's still the same row.
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As ever with everything the club seems to communicate around ticketing currently, its not clear what they're doing, how it affects people etc etc, it really is a piss poor effort. I mean if you're going to renumber peoples seats and rejig well known zones then clearly communicate that instead of leaving people to guess and speculate.
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As ever with everything the club seems to communicate around ticketing currently, its not clear what they're doing, how it affects people etc etc, it really is a piss poor effort. I mean if you're going to renumber peoples seats and rejig well known zones then clearly communicate that instead of leaving people to guess and speculate.
Is it really that piss poor? Whatever they say people will get hysterical. Do you want an individual powerpoint presentation for everyone who's seat number has changed?
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It is poor that the renewal section isn’t working and that if that’s because they’re not on sale yet the communication failed to explain this properly, yes.
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As ever with everything the club seems to communicate around ticketing currently, its not clear what they're doing, how it affects people etc etc, it really is a piss poor effort. I mean if you're going to renumber peoples seats and rejig well known zones then clearly communicate that instead of leaving people to guess and speculate.
Is it really that piss poor? Whatever they say people will get hysterical. Do you want an individual powerpoint presentation for everyone who's seat number has changed?
Yes it is Chris. And no I don’t want a PowerPoint presentation, this doesn’t even affect me but for those that it does, a clear individualised explanation via letter/email would be proper Customer Service not this piss poor excuse for communication.
I’m actually one of the 900 being displaced and the comms around that has been ok but still obfuscating rather than clear and honest.
I’m not afraid of change, I’m not that bothered about being moved, I realise other are, but if I learnt one thing in my career if you’re giving bad news you need to be clear, open and honest. I’m afraid that’s not my view on how the club have approached this at all.
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‘Your seat number is changing slightly and your position may have moved a little as your previous seat has been replaced by rail seating.’ Not difficult to communicate.
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It is poor that the renewal section isn’t working and that if that’s because they’re not on sale yet the communication failed to explain this properly, yes.
I haven't seen any messages saying the renewal window is open.
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As ever with everything the club seems to communicate around ticketing currently, its not clear what they're doing, how it affects people etc etc, it really is a piss poor effort. I mean if you're going to renumber peoples seats and rejig well known zones then clearly communicate that instead of leaving people to guess and speculate.
Is it really that piss poor? Whatever they say people will get hysterical. Do you want an individual powerpoint presentation for everyone who's seat number has changed?
Yes it is Chris. And no I don’t want a PowerPoint presentation, this doesn’t even affect me but for those that it does, a clear individualised explanation via letter/email would be proper Customer Service not this piss poor excuse for communication.
I’m actually one of the 900 being displaced and the comms around that has been ok but still obfuscating rather than clear and honest.
I’m not afraid of change, I’m not that bothered about being moved, I realise other are, but if I learnt one thing in my career if you’re giving bad news you need to be clear, open and honest. I’m afraid that’s not my view on how the club have approached this at all.
I get it for the 900, but as you say there's not much more they could do on that.
For the seat numbers, my guess is there won't be any tangible change, so is it really bad news?
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It is poor that the renewal section isn’t working and that if that’s because they’re not on sale yet the communication failed to explain this properly, yes.
Honestly people have generally shifted by about 3 seat numbers. Would it be so hard for them to have said that? Rambling about you moving to ‘the nearest comparable seat’ left loads of room for interpretation and worry that we were being moved away from where we’ve been for 20 years. They just could have been a lot clearer and it’s not that much to ask really.
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It is poor that the renewal section isn’t working and that if that’s because they’re not on sale yet the communication failed to explain this properly, yes.
I haven't seen any messages saying the renewal window is open.
Season Tickets will go on sale for existing season ticket holders on Monday, June 3rd and will provide all current holders with the opportunity to renew their season tickets for a period of three weeks, until the renewal period deadline on Sunday, June 23.
How difficult would it have been to say what time today they go on sale ?
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They’ll do it after 5pm, so no one can call
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There were no subscriptions found that could be renewed at this time.
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I asked AVFC support on X what was going on as “error” message received. I got this response
“Season tickets are not yet available for renewal. Further updates will be provided later today.”
I have asked them to confirm the position as hasn’t been mentioned before, indeed the email I got on Saturday said they’d be on sale today.
My seats in L5 row U are possibly going then …
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They have come back to say not affected … seems at odds with what they told me before but will wait and see.
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I wonder if they've done some shuffling up to remove single spare seats? It would make sense to do so, albeit I appreciate people are attached to a seat they've held for many tears.
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I wonder if they've done some shuffling up to remove single spare seats? It would make sense to do so, albeit I appreciate people are attached to a seat they've held for many tears.
I wouldnt mind being shunted a few seats, but even though ‘yards’ being moved from L2 to L1 will clearly offer a worse view and is shit after years sitting in the same seats for me and my kids. And like i say i only know how to find out where im being moved to via this forum.
I get the comms have to be generalised, but a day before renew, with no prior build up, is shit whichever way its painted
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I wonder if they've done some shuffling up to remove single spare seats? It would make sense to do so, albeit I appreciate people are attached to a seat they've held for many tears.
I wouldnt mind being shunted a few seats, but even though ‘yards’ being move from L2 to L1 will clearly have a worse and is shit after years sitting in the same seats for me and my kids. And like i say i only know how to find out where im being moved to via this forum.
I get the comms have to be generalised, but a day before renew, with no prior build up, is shit whichever way its painted
They appear to be moving the aisles above the exits in the Holte lower. So, it's possible you're in exactly the same bit of concrete, but now in a different block due to the aisle moving. Why the club can't just communicate this – hell, even publish a seating plan, is beyond me.
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They appear to be moving the aisles above the exits in the Holte lower. So, it's possible you're in exactly the same bit of concrete, but now in a different block due to the aisle moving. Why the club can't just communicate this – hell, even publish a seating plan, is beyond me.
I'm not impacted by this, but I have wondered the same thing.
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I wonder if they've done some shuffling up to remove single spare seats? It would make sense to do so, albeit I appreciate people are attached to a seat they've held for many tears.
I certainly shed a few in my old seat!
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I wonder if they've done some shuffling up to remove single spare seats? It would make sense to do so, albeit I appreciate people are attached to a seat they've held for many tears.
I wouldnt mind being shunted a few seats, but even though ‘yards’ being move from L2 to L1 will clearly have a worse and is shit after years sitting in the same seats for me and my kids. And like i say i only know how to find out where im being moved to via this forum.
I get the comms have to be generalised, but a day before renew, with no prior build up, is shit whichever way its painted
They appear to be moving the aisles above the exits in the Holte lower. So, it's possible you're in exactly the same bit of concrete, but now in a different block due to the aisle moving. Why the club can't just communicate this – hell, even publish a seating plan, is beyond me.
If thats true then absolutely fine, but your right a form of wording than communicates would help. All will become clear (as mud potentially) in the coming days I guess.
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It'll be 5pm so they can prepare for the avalanche of calls tomorrow.
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They’ve created no end of extra work for themselves fielding enquiries this morning which could have been avoided if the email had been clearer.
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How long do we have to renew.
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How long do we have to renew.
23rd June
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How long do we have to renew.
23rd June
ok cheers.
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On sale now
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Just had a message saying I can renew now.
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My ticket is showing, but not the price???
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Its open !!!
Pricing on the main ST renewal page
Interesting how you can enrol for the CL cup scheme, but not general.
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So they have added a £50+ arrangement fee to the spread the cost option I see.
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It still won't show pricing for me, can anyone tell me how much my ticket is? K7 UH.
Cheers.
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It still won't show pricing for me, can anyone tell me how much my ticket is? K7 UH.
Cheers.
£640 I think
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25/
pricing at the bottom
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I hold my hands up, I wasn't expecting this in the shuffling (from Titter)
My 15yr old has been moved 3 rows in front and 5 seat to the left of us…shocking
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
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So our Zone 4
£610 becomes £640 adult
£157 becomes £164 under 14
Both 5% inc
So from my notes match day costs for one adult and under 14 in the family zone (not sure if we were cheapest zone in the first year of these we were the 2nd)
21/22 £25.42 & £3.68= £29.10
22/23 £27.95 & £5.53= £33.48 (has become the cheapest zone in the ground)
23/24 £32.11 & £8.26 = £40.37
24/25 £33.68 & £8.63 = £42.32
Of course needing since the end of 22/23 to get two under 14tix, 3 together becomes a complication…
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Looks like the pages were loaded in increments so you go through the payment process but the cost wasn't on there.
Purchased now, got the email but the ticket QRC wasn't showing on the email and isn't in the app either. Might take time to load I suppose....
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Is it just me, or is the Over 66 concession gone up by a lot more than 5%?
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
Jesus, that's a bit rich.
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
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The 10% off in the Villa store is back!
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The 10% off in the Villa store is back!
And we get a christmas present!
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The 10% off in the Villa store is back!
And we get a christmas present!
As long as I don't have to sit on anyone's lap! I'm not falling for that one again.
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
But it is a real cost that people wont have been expecting. I must admit I did wonder last year what was in it for V12.
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
A quick search on "V12 Arrangement Fee" seems to show they now do it on most of the interest free things like season tickets and for Scunthorpe site from 2022, is not a new things apparently and is about 8.7% cost. The one thing the club could have done is mention it in the V12 FAQs though.
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
A quick search on "V12 Arrangement Fee" seems to show they now do it on most of the interest free things like season tickets and for Scunthorpe site from 2022, is not a new things apparently and is about 8.7% cost. The one thing the club could have done is mention it in the V12 FAQs though.
every single finance company does it for credit arrangements.
I would imagine the V12 FAQS are provided by V12 - not the club
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
This is the first time I've ever known there being an arrangement fee, though?
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
Posh people love to laugh at the oiks.
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"rah rah rah...."
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
This is the first time I've ever known there being an arrangement fee, though?
Yep it is...
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
This is the first time I've ever known there being an arrangement fee, though?
Yep it is...
It might well be.
Its not the clubs fault/decision/rules though
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Just renewed, 2 over 66s £614 each in the upper holte rail seating, so no seat number change, but an arrangement fee for the interest free loan of £81.00.
hardly interest free then.
Lets hope people don't blame the club for fees imposed by a finance company.
Some seem determined to beat the club up over everything at the moment
This is the first time I've ever known there being an arrangement fee, though?
Yep it is...
It might well be.
Its not the clubs fault/decision/rules though
This was built into the price previously. So its a 5% increase + this V12 charge. Another stealth increase.
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It might well be.
Its not the clubs fault/decision/rules though
This was built into the price previously. So its a 5% increase + this V12 charge. Another stealth increase.
It's like having our own Martin Lewis on here.
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It is poor that the renewal section isn’t working and that if that’s because they’re not on sale yet the communication failed to explain this properly, yes.
Honestly people have generally shifted by about 3 seat numbers. Would it be so hard for them to have said that? Rambling about you moving to ‘the nearest comparable seat’ left loads of room for interpretation and worry that we were being moved away from where we’ve been for 20 years. They just could have been a lot clearer and it’s not that much to ask really.
Some people saying they’ve been moved along several blocks. Has the seating plan changed that dramatically. Without the details within blocks, they can’t see “geographically” how far they are from last seasons seat . Not that affects me but I do feel the comms aren’t very clear from the club. Surprised with slight increase in capacity, (now only about 300 at 42,900) there will be less GA for each game too.
Without offering any new ST to those on waiting list it seems they’re banking on this group to keep forking out for the new hospitality seats on a game by game basis
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
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I do wonder how these guys are going to be treated , when they are surrounded by people they have squeezed out
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
Do the majority use that facility? If people do, I'm also assuming that they could borrow the money elsewhere at a cheaper rate if this fee is excessive?
The reality is that borrowing money costs money, however you do it. I doubt very much the club are seeing any of that fee at all.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
Do the majority use that facility? If people do, I'm also assuming that they could borrow the money elsewhere at a cheaper rate if this fee is excessive?
The reality is that borrowing money costs money, however you do it. I doubt very much the club are seeing any of that fee at all.
V12 has always been no separate charge previously . So paying up front or spreading the cost was the same price. There was no discount for paying all up front.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
There isn’t one.
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It's approximately 6% of the cost of the season ticket - which isn't too bad, but just another way of wring money out of people.
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
Do the majority use that facility? If people do, I'm also assuming that they could borrow the money elsewhere at a cheaper rate if this fee is excessive?
The reality is that borrowing money costs money, however you do it. I doubt very much the club are seeing any of that fee at all.
I don’t really know. Maybe more people have the up front cash or interest free credit cards than I think.
People that used this method of payment last season are now paying an extra 7%, without being told about it until they have gone to renew.
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Just seems to be like the Cup Scheme, so you can put yourself down for one and get them automatically.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
They are offering to further lighten your wallet.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
There isn’t one.
No offer, just an option to auto enrol for home tickets.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
Just that they will take your money the day it comes on sale, to save you having to manually purchase.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
They are offering to further lighten your wallet.
how else do you expect to attend these games ?
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
They are offering to further lighten your wallet.
how else do you expect to attend these games ?
Buy ad-hoc each time the tickets are released and based on your personal circumstances at that time.
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What's the offer on Champions League tickets?
They are offering to further lighten your wallet.
how else do you expect to attend these games ?
Buy ad-hoc each time the tickets are released and based on your personal circumstances at that time.
Well, obviously. So you don’t opt into the cup scheme. It’s not mandatory,
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Paid an extra £59 for my two, which whilst hardly welcome, is less than I was expecting.
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Has anybody got a link to how much they were last year please?
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Has anybody got a link to how much they were last year please?
I had to go back a year through my payment history to find out.
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-5% ?
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I'm sure I paid £895 last season, now they only want £909. It doesn't seem enough.
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
They do. I wonder if it's a "neutral zone"...
Or whether it's just easier access to get to the hospitality in the corner
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I'm sure I paid £895 last season, now they only want £909. It doesn't seem enough.
£865 last year
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£800+ sheets lighter, but what can you do? I do feel for people who are not going to be able to do the increased prices.
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
They do. I wonder if it's a "neutral zone"...
Or whether it's just easier access to get to the hospitality in the corner
I can't see the Romulans taking kindly to that.
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Just renewed mine, £818 in the Lower Holte.
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Now it's telling me,I can't purchase my tickets because it's already occupied
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Maybe empty your basket and try again.
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Maybe empty your basket and try again.
I am back in cheers
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Apparently the arrangement fee has been removed now.
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The handling fee on the finance has been removed. They have sent out emails saying an error was made and you will need to re sign the agreement it seems.
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
Do the majority use that facility? If people do, I'm also assuming that they could borrow the money elsewhere at a cheaper rate if this fee is excessive?
The reality is that borrowing money costs money, however you do it. I doubt very much the club are seeing any of that fee at all.
That's what I'm doing, I have a Monzo Flex card so I'll be using that paying 50% upfront then spreading that over 3 month which means it'll be interest free unlike the "interest free" option from the club
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It’s a 12% increase then, right? For those spreading the costs. Which presumably is the majority?
Seems a bit shady.
Do the majority use that facility? If people do, I'm also assuming that they could borrow the money elsewhere at a cheaper rate if this fee is excessive?
The reality is that borrowing money costs money, however you do it. I doubt very much the club are seeing any of that fee at all.
That's what I'm doing, I have a Monzo Flex card so I'll be using that paying 50% upfront then spreading that over 3 month which means it'll be interest free unlike the "interest free" option from the club
It is no interest now they've reissued the agreements.
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Just renewed mine, £818 in the Lower Holte.
That's too much for me now sadly. Especially as travel costs me way more than that. Add it all up it costs too much.
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Good news the interest free option is back.
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If you are okay with credit cards,I normally purchase son's and mine over 12 months on interest free, also got last season ticket on the club finance scheme last season,only issue with this I am still waiting for him to cough up the money for it
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There's plenty on the waiting list, isn't there, now we shall find out
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Got a discount last season because of the installation of the disabled seat section, blocking the view, think it was £667 last season,so it's jumped to £818
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There's plenty on the waiting list, isn't there, now we shall find out
I don't think anyone on the waiting list will get the option. From what's been said, I'd assumed any unclaimed season tickets will go back on matchday sale from next season.
*which makes sense from a financial perspective, as they will get bums on them, at a higher price.
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It’s not going to be bad value when you configure into it that you are going to be watching us win the league and CL double next season
So it will all be worth it
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
They do. I wonder if it's a "neutral zone"...
Or whether it's just easier access to get to the hospitality in the corner
It’s irritating me that i can’t see the rows and seat numbers of the seating plan, hard to make a proper judgement on how shit the move from L2 to L1 is going to be. Think I’m going to have to go through the pain of phoning the club over the next few days.
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That's going to be fun paying top dollar for your lower north hospitality seats and finding yourself between warring bands of Stone Island clad youths calling each other ****** and waving wanker signs for 90 minutes.
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There's plenty on the waiting list, isn't there, now we shall find out
We won't. They're not selling any more season tickets this year according to what they said at fab meeting. I also think the drop out rate will be really low anyway.
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
They do. I wonder if it's a "neutral zone"...
Or whether it's just easier access to get to the hospitality in the corner
It’s irritating me that i can’t see the rows and seat numbers of the seating plan, hard to make a proper judgement on how shit the move from L2 to L1 is going to be. Think I’m going to have to go through the pain of phoning the club over the next few days.
L1 used to kick into L2, now it doesn't. Won't you essentially be where you were before but just reclassified??
Old seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/RhM136q/ecb3d250-c2e1-11eb-bc87-c7eb39c3074e.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RhM136q)
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Did I hear the 10% club shop discount is back in action for season ticket holders? Wonder if this will apply to the adidas kits/training wear, or just the usual tat they sell in there (*eg. those god awful, 'Up the EuroVilla' tees)?
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
Maybe that's who will end up buying them.
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Did I hear the 10% club shop discount is back in action for season ticket holders? Wonder if this will apply to the adidas kits/training wear, or just the usual tat they sell in there (*eg. those god awful, 'Up the EuroVilla' tees)?
It used to be on everything.
I imagine with the store doubling and the Adidas deal, they’re going to encourage us all to spend as much as we can in there.
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Be careful with the 'cup' scheme for Champions League - no refunds are allowed after your account has been debited!!!
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Be careful with the 'cup' scheme for Champions League - no refunds are allowed after your account has been debited!!!
Ooh , turn your back on Heck at your peril.
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New seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/bz2tNcR/GPJ03-WDXAAA2-WXH.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bz2tNcR)
Those hospitality seats in the North Lower seem very close to the away fans.
They do. I wonder if it's a "neutral zone"...
Or whether it's just easier access to get to the hospitality in the corner
It’s irritating me that i can’t see the rows and seat numbers of the seating plan, hard to make a proper judgement on how shit the move from L2 to L1 is going to be. Think I’m going to have to go through the pain of phoning the club over the next few days.
L1 used to kick into L2, now it doesn't. Won't you essentially be where you were before but just reclassified??
Old seating plan
(https://i.ibb.co/RhM136q/ecb3d250-c2e1-11eb-bc87-c7eb39c3074e.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RhM136q)
I dunno Chris, maybe you’re right? Seems hard to equate though if L2 is now wider and L1 smaller and Im now in L1? Anyway, ive been travelling back from Greece all day and doing my own head in with this, so I’ll just ring the club when I have a chance.
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I don’t know if I joined the cup scheme or not
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Anyone else getting the message “payment being processed” for an eternity upon trying to renew ?
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Anyone else getting the message “payment being processed” for an eternity upon trying to renew ?
Happened to me.
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No point renewing just yet we have a couple more weeks .
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Signed in and purchased with ease. Had to put my phone on its side to get to the authorisation section but other than that no bother. Increased by £30 for mine and £7 for my lads in L2, no idea why they took so long to release the details.
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I presume the digital ticket is sent out at some point later on as nothing is attached to the confirmation e-mail.
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I don’t know if I joined the cup scheme or not
I think I did but I can’t find anywhere to confirm it.
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I presume the digital ticket is sent out at some point later on as nothing is attached to the confirmation e-mail.
From Pravda
When do supporters receive their digital season ticket?
This will not be available to download straight after purchase. Supporters will receive a link to their digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet before the start of the new season.
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I don’t know if I joined the cup scheme or not
I think I did but I can’t find anywhere to confirm it.
The system auto-selects you in, so if you didn't actively opt out you're in.
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I presume the digital ticket is sent out at some point later on as nothing is attached to the confirmation e-mail.
It says at the bottom of your email that’ll it’ll be sent at a later date.
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Thanks UKR and Charleeco7
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Is there anything anywhere about criteria for free cards - kids without phones, elders etc?
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Anyone else getting the message “payment being processed” for an eternity upon trying to renew ?
Thanks, glad it just isn’t me👍👍
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The handling fee on the finance has been removed. They have sent out emails saying an error was made and you will need to re sign the agreement it seems.
I’ve had that email but not one with a replacement agreement to sign.
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Be careful with the 'cup' scheme for Champions League - no refunds are allowed after your account has been debited!!!
Happened to me last season when I purchased the package for the home European conference games, couldn't go to one and phoned up for a refund and was told I couldn't have one because I purchased the package deal which only saved me a few pounds,if I need it for champions League match I do it on a match basis, surely there no difference
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Is there anything anywhere about criteria for free cards - kids without phones, elders etc?
All season tickets this season will be digital and supporters can add their digital season ticket to an Apple or Google wallet as an NFC pass. Season Ticket Holders who wish for a physical card instead will need to fill out a form on the website stating the reason for the need for a season ticket. Applicable reasons why would be if someone has a medical condition, or a supporter doesn’t have a smartphone. This card would then be sent out free of charge. Any future reprint would entail a charge as per previous seasons.
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Anyone else getting the message “payment being processed” for an eternity upon trying to renew ?
Thanks, glad it just isn’t me👍👍
Been trying for 5 hours, think I’ll call it a night !
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
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There's plenty on the waiting list, isn't there, now we shall find out
I wish! They’re not selling the season tickets of those who don’t renew. I don’t think me and the kids will ever get one now, unless we move maybe.
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So is the plan to increase GA + though attrition?
Which would mean every season ST holders being turfed out of their seats until they hit peak GA+.
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What the feck is GA+ ?
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What the feck is GA+ ?
I think it is the bastard child of xG
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So is the plan to increase GA + though attrition?
Which would mean every season ST holders being turfed out of their seats until they hit peak GA+.
I think they have a sweet spot in mind, yeah. But there are practical limits to GA+, in that it requires more space and better facilities / service.
So once they reach the limit of that and what they can achieve in price increases, they will have to redevelop something to continue the upward curve.
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What the feck is GA+ ?
Seat and a Sandwich
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
I see they have removed the ‘all you can drink’ part of the package!
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
Only 2 drinks included but you do get
Priority access to away and cup tickets (including Champions League)
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
I see they have removed the ‘all you can drink’ part of the package!
That was Lower Grounds, TV was always a couple of drinks and a programme.
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Renewed with ease other than I have been moved. Got that email Sunday night saying seat number had changed. Moved from T4 row N by 20 seats so I think I am more central!
Poor communications only to be told the night before. I guess as a single seat it was fairly easy to move me. Disappointing though as I got to know those around me and probably we're all in different parts of the North Stand.
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
Only 2 drinks included but you do get
Priority access to away and cup tickets (including Champions League)
What sort of priority level? That I guess it’s same as season ticket holders ? Fees like it’s crosses a line re: paying for access, but obviously the line already crossed in its existence.
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
Only 2 drinks included but you do get
Priority access to away and cup tickets (including Champions League)
That would put the cat amongst the pigeons on the away ticket front.
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How much were the Terrace View season tickets last year? They’re £1,860 now.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/03/Season-Tickets-2024-25-Terrace-View/)
Only 2 drinks included but you do get
Priority access to away and cup tickets (including Champions League)
What sort of priority level? That I guess it’s same as season ticket holders ? Fees like it’s crosses a line re: paying for access, but obviously yeh like already crossed in its existence.
It’s probably no more priority than other ST. Just typical Heck, being a little light on detail, to sell.
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I've got the direct number for the Ticket Office - from the guy that called me to tell me I wasn't moving. Happy to DM people if they want to try that route.
Sounds like a bit of a shambles - ticket office phone lines only open between 1pm and 2pm - surely that can't be true??
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I've got the direct number for the Ticket Office - from the guy that called me to tell me I wasn't moving. Happy to DM people if they want to try that route.
Sounds like a bit of a shambles - ticket office phone lines only open between 1pm and 2pm - surely that can't be true??
I think they were normally closed at those times? I thought they were saying they are now open.
I think the whole thing is rushed. You had Chris Heck coming in last summer and he's basically had one season to do all these things - re-brand, new contracts, new GA+, new store upgrade, etc.
I think what we are seeing is the result of rushing to hit the season deadlines while planning and renovating areas of the stadium. The plans have probably been finalised late on and now they have been trying to work out the full impact on people and communicate that out.
They admitted they were two weeks behind I think on the store for opening for the start of the season. So I'm not surprised it's taking time to sort it all out.
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Only OPEN between 1pm and 2pm...
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Only OPEN between 1pm and 2pm...
Wow... >:(
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Where’s the link to apply for a physical season ticket? I see the redirection to the ticket purchases but cannot see the link to ask for a physical ticket. Apparently i need to apply for a physical one and the club can refuse.
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Only OPEN between 1pm and 2pm...
No doubt most of the operators have their lunch breaks 1-2pm!!
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Only OPEN between 1pm and 2pm...
No doubt most of the operators have their lunch breaks 1-2pm!!
Open Hours:
0930 - 1300 & 1400 - 1700
So it is a change to say they are not closed during lunch.
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Are there any details on the new Corporate/GA+ in the Witton Lane?
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Renewed and used the V12 8 month interest free spread payment option.
Our tickets only went up £14 so 1.56% .
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Catch 22 for me. Can’t renew on line, some problem with my digital account. Trying by phone but am disconnected after one minute. I’ll keep trying I guess.
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Catch 22 for me. Can’t renew on line, some problem with my digital account. Trying by phone but am disconnected after one minute. I’ll keep trying I guess.
The greatest catch there is!
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Only OPEN between 1pm and 2pm...
No doubt most of the operators have their lunch breaks 1-2pm!!
Open Hours:
0930 - 1300 & 1400 - 1700
So it is a change to say they are not closed during lunch.
It's the most archaic and intransigent thing that is only replicated by Dr's surgeries. Just stagger the breaks to take into account that you may get calls when other people are on lunch ffs.
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So when we receive a digital ticket and add it to Wallet on the phone, does this mean that on the odd occasion when we can't attend, we won't be able to forward it on to a friend or family?
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
No.
You'll still get an option to buy your own seat on a game-by-game basis. This is just a way of the tickets being automatically purchased.
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
I thought that if you enrol, you have to take the ticket and no refund option?
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So when we receive a digital ticket and add it to Wallet on the phone, does this mean that on the odd occasion when we can't attend, we won't be able to forward it on to a friend or family?
You can forward it via the club. As long as you’re not selling it they’re not bothered. Just email them on
TicketSalesAF@avfc.co.uk and tell them the name and Fan ID of the person you want to forward it to and they’ll do the rest. It says it can take up to 10 days but I’ve never known it to be more than 24 hours.
You can set up a fan ID for anyone online too so it doesn’t matter if they haven’t already got one, just set one up.
To be honest, although it sounds awkward, I’ve often found it easier than handing over the physical ticket. Jane often lends her ST to my husband and we nearly always do it that way as we don’t live in Brum now and it means she can pass the ticket on without having to meet up or post it.
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Yes, it's pretty painless. You can also phone them up and so long as you don't pick a busy time (ticket release date etc) it's usually very quick and done there and then.
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Renewed with ease other than I have been moved. Got that email Sunday night saying seat number had changed. Moved from T4 row N by 20 seats so I think I am more central!
Poor communications only to be told the night before. I guess as a single seat it was fairly easy to move me. Disappointing though as I got to know those around me and probably we're all in different parts of the North Stand.
I suspect you haven't been moved by that much from the actual position you were in, just the seat numbering is different. My brother is in the North and mentioned he must have moved because he was T3 and now T4 and has been changed by about the same number of seats, but if you compare with last year, there is now six zones in T and not five, and T3 zone, which was most of the middle, has now been split into T3 and T4.
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Yes, it's pretty painless. You can also phone them up and so long as you don't pick a busy time (ticket release date etc) it's usually very quick and done there and then.
Thanks...and to Amfy :)
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I do wonder if some point the club might put a cap on how many times you can transfer or resell, but I've not heard any talk of that.
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I do wonder if some point the club might put a cap on how many times you can transfer or resell, but I've not heard any talk of that.
I think it's in the Ts&Cs limited to 5...
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Been struggling to renew my seat.
It now says seat is already occupied, please ring ticket office.
Only to be told we are busy, then promptly cut me off.
Not even in a queue 🤣🤣
Wonder if I have been moved,
Currently in Lower Holte L5
Not impressed at the moment.
Anyone else in this area having issues?
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I do wonder if some point the club might put a cap on how many times you can transfer or resell, but I've not heard any talk of that.
That’s an anxiety for me. They’d be daft to as it’ll mean people getting more creative, whereas at present you can do it by the book, give it away for free to the friend who is going by requesting they create an e-ticket with their name on, they know who is in the seat.
There is this talk of smart phones changing hands via touts at Anfield as a way to get around it which sounds bonkers but you can imagine people getting into cheap/old handsets that hold the ST and nothing else.
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Been struggling to renew my seat.
It now says seat is already occupied, please ring ticket office.
Only to be told we are busy, then promptly cut me off.
Not even in a queue 🤣🤣
Wonder if I have been moved,
Currently in Lower Holte L5
Not impressed at the moment.
Anyone else in this area having issues?
Exactly the same problem. Might give it a week until it settles down.
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Been struggling to renew my seat.
It now says seat is already occupied, please ring ticket office.
Only to be told we are busy, then promptly cut me off.
Not even in a queue 🤣🤣
Wonder if I have been moved,
Currently in Lower Holte L5
Not impressed at the moment.
Anyone else in this area having issues?
Exactly the same problem. Might give it a week until it settles down.
Thanks, Levico.
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I was in L5 now been moved to L4 - Same row and seat number, will try to renew tomorrow
Just a question, I am a bit of a technophobe, NO mobile phone, however I do have an IPOD touch, which has the APP for a wallet (where you can store tickets etc.) would this work for my season ticket?
Any help / advise would be appreciated as I don't want to turn up for the 1st home game and this would not work?
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So when we receive a digital ticket and add it to Wallet on the phone, does this mean that on the odd occasion when we can't attend, we won't be able to forward it on to a friend or family?
Can't you just reassign your seat if linked to friends/ family.
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I was in L5 now been moved to L4 - Same row and seat number, will try to renew tomorrow
Just a question, I am a bit of a technophobe, NO mobile phone, however I do have an IPOD touch, which has the APP for a wallet (where you can store tickets etc.) would this work for my season ticket?
Any help / advise would be appreciated as I don't want to turn up for the 1st home game and this would not work?
In theory yes but I think if I was in your position I would apply for a physical ticket to be on the safe side.
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I was in L5 now been moved to L4 - Same row and seat number, will try to renew tomorrow
Just a question, I am a bit of a technophobe, NO mobile phone, however I do have an IPOD touch, which has the APP for a wallet (where you can store tickets etc.) would this work for my season ticket?
Any help / advise would be appreciated as I don't want to turn up for the 1st home game and this would not work?
If you don’t have a mobile sid you can apply for a free card, ring the TO.
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I'm fine with the digitisation of everything but our Season Tickets. Anybody tried to get the tactile Season Card yet? What, if any are the pitfalls?
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Been struggling to renew my seat.
It now says seat is already occupied, please ring ticket office.
Only to be told we are busy, then promptly cut me off.
Not even in a queue 🤣🤣
Wonder if I have been moved,
Currently in Lower Holte L5
Not impressed at the moment.
Anyone else in this area having issues?
Exactly the same problem. Might give it a week until it settles down.
Thanks, Levico.
I get exactly the same message for B5.
Considering the club takes needs to take payments on a regular basis, the website is incredibly poor in its design and functionality.
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I do wonder if some point the club might put a cap on how many times you can transfer or resell, but I've not heard any talk of that.
I think it's in the Ts&Cs limited to 5...
In the ticketing regs introduced summer 23
In the list of ‘offences’
Passing on a home match ticket or a season ticket without re-assigning this to the correct named use
It didn’t mention a limit
- If a season ticket holder cannot attend a game, they can i) re-sell their seats back to the club on a match-by-match basis via the resale scheme. Or ii) re-assign their season ticket seat to the named individual attending in their place. Please note, this can only be transferred to a close friend or family member as it is the season ticket holder’s responsibility that a known individual will be occupying that seat. This can be done by calling our ticket office, emailing ticketsales@avfc.co.uk or messaging us on @AVFCSupport on Twitter; the latter two options are available provided no payment is required to upgrade a concession ticket.
I’ve a feeling there was a limit mentioned for resales, possibly not passing on for free, anyone got access to new or old terms & conditions?
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Been struggling to renew my seat.
It now says seat is already occupied, please ring ticket office.
Only to be told we are busy, then promptly cut me off.
Not even in a queue 🤣🤣
Wonder if I have been moved,
Currently in Lower Holte L5
Not impressed at the moment.
Anyone else in this area having issues?
Exactly the same problem. Might give it a week until it settles down.
Thanks, Levico.
I get exactly the same message for B5.
Considering the club takes needs to take payments on a regular basis, the website is incredibly poor in its design and functionality.
Had the same problem yesterday, maybe log out of your account and log back in may help
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
No.
You'll still get an option to buy your own seat on a game-by-game basis. This is just a way of the tickets being automatically purchased.
That's a relief. Thanks, chrisw1!
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
I thought that if you enrol, you have to take the ticket and no refund option?
That's what I originally thought, so I thought I'd post in this thread to double check.
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I'm fine with the digitisation of everything but our Season Tickets. Anybody tried to get the tactile Season Card yet? What, if any are the pitfalls?
I have asked them about this. Not sure some employers will be happy with a downloaded season ticket on their devices?
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I'm fine with the digitisation of everything but our Season Tickets. Anybody tried to get the tactile Season Card yet? What, if any are the pitfalls?
I have asked them about this. Not sure some employers will be happy with a downloaded season ticket on their devices?
Surely even if you get a mobile phone with work you'd still have your own one as well?
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I'm fine with the digitisation of everything but our Season Tickets. Anybody tried to get the tactile Season Card yet? What, if any are the pitfalls?
I have asked them about this. Not sure some employers will be happy with a downloaded season ticket on their devices?
Surely even if you get a mobile phone with work you'd still have your own one as well?
I didn't bother for a few years.
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Managed to get the renewal details up on my phone: I'm confused.
I'm given the option to enrol in the Champions League Cup Scheme and I need to register my card details.I'm assuming that they will take the payment automatically when the tickets become available. Problem is, I'm not sure if I can afford all of these home games. Should I still enrol anyway so I can have the option of taking up the ticket or not when it becomes available?
Help!
I thought that if you enrol, you have to take the ticket and no refund option?
That's what I originally thought, so I thought I'd post in this thread to double check.
That's impression I got,sign up now, but no refund if you can't attend, happened last season with my conference league ticket, just as easy to purchase on a match by match basis surely
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What a surprise, they are including a Champions League Cup Scheme.
Pretty sure someone was adamant this would not happen.
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I asked last season if there was a limit on the number of times you could ask the club to transfer your ST to friends and family and the response was that there is no limit at the moment but that this could change at some point in future with the ST waiting list as it is.
This actually makes sense in terms of the ST waiting list because under the current system you could technically just pass your whole ST on by default using the current system without breaking any rules, enabling the person you’ve passed it to to ‘queue jump’ in practice.
Still this season is not the time they’ve put a lid on it. Let’s see what the limit is when they come up with it. Could affect long distance fans like me who struggle with stupid KO times.
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You can still sell it back to the club, but you only get 80% back (if it sells).
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
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I have a work mobile phone but no personal mobile - if i tried to download my season ticket to my works phone, it would probably be classed as a disciplinary offence.
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I don't understand just having a work one. I wouldn't want all of my personal stuff on a work device, and obviously it belongs to somebody else and you have to respect their rules. Very odd behaviour.
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
The barcode constantly changes
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You can still sell it back to the club, but you only get 80% back (if it sells).
Which is fair enough.
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
Not necessarily , many digital tickets are now non transferrable.
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I'm fine with the digitisation of everything but our Season Tickets. Anybody tried to get the tactile Season Card yet? What, if any are the pitfalls?
I have asked them about this. Not sure some employers will be happy with a downloaded season ticket on their devices?
Maybe a new sim card, simboy.
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
The barcode constantly changes
Yeah its an encrypted feature that refreshes every few seconds .
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
Carrying and maintaining 2 mobiles is no fun.
I had to do it for my US and UK until they invented dual SIM.
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What a surprise, they are including a Champions League Cup Scheme.
Pretty sure someone was adamant this would not happen.
I'm pretty sure someone was adamant that CL tickets would be included in the season ticket, which is what I was adamant wouldn't happen. And hasn't.
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What a surprise, they are including a Champions League Cup Scheme.
Pretty sure someone was adamant this would not happen.
I'm pretty sure someone was adamant that CL tickets would be included in the season ticket, which is what I was adamant wouldn't happen. And hasn't.
I think I was pretty clear that they would offer a CL package to ST Holders and they have.
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What a surprise, they are including a Champions League Cup Scheme.
Pretty sure someone was adamant this would not happen.
I'm pretty sure someone was adamant that CL tickets would be included in the season ticket, which is what I was adamant wouldn't happen. And hasn't.
I think I was pretty clear that they would offer a CL package to ST Holders and they have.
I think you're scraping the barrel here. You said the only possible reason for the delay in releasing ST details was because CL tickets would be included in the package.
You weren't talking about a cup scheme, you know you weren't. If you want to use this to say you're right, then whatever makes you feel better about yourself mate.
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Club are only waiting on us to finish 4th. On top of the extra money from the CL, they’ll then think that shafting the fans for another 15% increase in season ticket prices will be more than justified, in their minds anyway.
It is also possible that they could include the 4 CL games as option for a very reasonable price if we qualify.
That's what I think they will do
Premier ST
Premier+CL ... ,+£200
Season Tickets anything from £700 - £1200
Why, though?
I think they’d be confident of selling out the Champions League matches regardless, so why add them on to the season ticket when traditionally you expect to save money with one?
Ta-dah!
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If they're going with the season tickets on mobile phones, I hope it:
a) doesn't cause massive queues like for the Conference League games, whether this is by making it more reliable or fans learning how to use the damn things
and b) doesn't just result in stewards waving people through who are clearly trying it on without a ticket and just pretend their phone isn't working
I'm getting old and grumpy and if I'm going to pay loads of money then I don't want someone winging it in for free
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If they're going with the season tickets on mobile phones, I hope it:
a) doesn't cause massive queues like for the Conference League games, whether this is by making it more reliable or fans learning how to use the damn things
and b) doesn't just result in stewards waving people through who are clearly trying it on without a ticket and just pretend their phone isn't working
I'm getting old and grumpy and if I'm going to pay loads of money then I don't want someone winging it in for free
In the LH we were able to use our season tickets on phones for the last part of the season and it didn’t seem to cause any particular issues.
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If they're going with the season tickets on mobile phones, I hope it:
a) doesn't cause massive queues like for the Conference League games, whether this is by making it more reliable or fans learning how to use the damn things
and b) doesn't just result in stewards waving people through who are clearly trying it on without a ticket and just pretend their phone isn't working
I'm getting old and grumpy and if I'm going to pay loads of money then I don't want someone winging it in for free
In the LH we were able to use our season tickets on phones for the last part of the season and it didn’t seem to cause any particular issues.
It's a bit different when it's everyone is made to do this though. I got a digital one but still used my physical ST for the remainder of last season.
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I'll be asking for a physical card for backup. But i'll give it a few weeks first, let the mayhem subside.
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A few years ago, there was a season where we got to keep the previous season's card - why can't you just have a card for life based on your supporter ID that your new season ticket can be uploaded to whenever you renew?
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Is there seating plans of the new layout so us that have been moved can see how & where we've been moved too ?
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
Carrying and maintaining 2 mobiles is no fun.
I had to do it for my US and UK until they invented dual SIM.
I have two, work and personal. Im just like an ageing white, Brummie version of Stringer Bell.
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Is there seating plans of the new layout so us that have been moved can see how & where we've been moved too ?
No
It’s going to be a giant game of musical chairs, the first game of the season
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Is there seating plans of the new layout so us that have been moved can see how & where we've been moved too ?
On the official FB posts, this has been asked for many, many times. They really have made a mess of this reallocation of Holte End season tickets with no warning (apart from 2 days prior to the renewal (on a Saturday afternoon 🙄))
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Is there seating plans of the new layout so us that have been moved can see how & where we've been moved too ?
On the official FB posts, this has been asked for many, many times. They really have made a mess of this reallocation of Holte End season tickets with no warning (apart from 2 days prior to the renewal (on a Saturday afternoon 🙄))
I can’t work out whether it’s incompetence or antipathy towards us, like it or lump it.
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What form will the digital card take, can you not just take a screenshot of the barcode and send it to somebody?
Carrying and maintaining 2 mobiles is no fun.
I had to do it for my US and UK until they invented dual SIM.
I have two, work and personal. Im just like an ageing white, Brummie version of Stringer Bell.
Never trust a man (or woman) with two phones is a maxim I live my life by.
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You can see the seating plan here. Just not which seats are available in reality.
Linky (https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/stadium%20seat%20display?hallmap=&s=08&hallmap)
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Very pain free renewal process and sub 2% increase. Happy with that and the emails from the club/V12 today . Painless.
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You can see the seating plan here. Just not which seats are available in reality.
Linky (https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/stadium%20seat%20display?hallmap=&s=08&hallmap)
Thank you thats very helpful.
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Very pain free renewal process and sub 2% increase. Happy with that and the emails from the club/V12 today . Painless.
Has your seat changed?
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Very pain free renewal process and sub 2% increase. Happy with that and the emails from the club/V12 today . Painless.
Has your seat changed?
No mate, we're upper Witton which due to the concourse restrictions etc I think they are struggling how to fit GA+ up there and whether the patrons of any GA+ would be ok with wading through oceans of piss and being unable to move at HT etc on the concourse.
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Very pain free renewal process and sub 2% increase. Happy with that and the emails from the club/V12 today . Painless.
Has your seat changed?
No mate, we're upper Witton which due to the concourse restrictions etc I think they are struggling how to fit GA+ up there and whether the patrons of any GA+ would be ok with wading through oceans of piss and being unable to move at HT etc on the concourse.
If mine hadn't changed so much, I'd probably be as happy as you tbh. Looking at that new seating plan breaks me out in huge anxiety that I'm now in the complete middle of a row that's been extended, rather than 6 places to the gangway. It's just absolute bullshit.
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Very pain free renewal process and sub 2% increase. Happy with that and the emails from the club/V12 today . Painless.
Has your seat changed?
No mate, we're upper Witton which due to the concourse restrictions etc I think they are struggling how to fit GA+ up there and whether the patrons of any GA+ would be ok with wading through oceans of piss and being unable to move at HT etc on the concourse.
If mine hadn't changed so much, I'd probably be as happy as you tbh. Looking at that new seating plan breaks me out in huge anxiety that I'm now in the complete middle of a row that's been extended, rather than 6 places to the gangway. It's just absolute bullshit.
Sorry to hear that Jane , where do you sit ?
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L7 Row Z
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The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
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We’ve had a seat backing onto a gangway and just a few seats from the aisle for over 20 years and they move us to the middle of a block with no notice, consultation, or relocation priority, & they think that’s OK?
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It seems that L8 has been attached to L7 now so we've all been shunted along by about 20 seats or so (in location terms). How on earth did they think that they couldn't communicate this before now???
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It seems that L8 has been attached to L7 now so we've all been shunted along by about 20 seats or so (in location terms). How on earth did they think that they couldn't communicate this before now???
In the propaganda piece he did with Gabby, Heck made a big deal about leaving the Holte End alone. I can’t believe what I’m hearing has happened to peoples seats and why they weren’t even counted in the displaced 900.
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From the comparison on the new and old designs, they have removed the "kinks" from when you first enter the lower Holte and decide to go up or down. So the seats might be almost in the same geographical location bar a metre or two, but the stands aisles are what has actually been moved.
I suspect we are all awaiting pictures of what they have done to confirm that.
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It seems that L8 has been attached to L7 now so we've all been shunted along by about 20 seats or so (in location terms). How on earth did they think that they couldn't communicate this before now???
In the propaganda piece he did with Gabby, Heck made a big deal about leaving the Holte End alone. I can’t believe what I’m hearing has happened to peoples seats and why they weren’t even counted in the displaced 900.
It has just never been mentioned before the email on Saturday which I find incredible. I know we've had it easy after hearing people being split up etc, but the new location of "my" seat just fills me with such anxiety, I feel that Villa just don't actually give a shit.
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From the comparison on the new and old designs, they have removed the "kinks" from when you first enter the lower Holte and decide to go up or down. So the seats might be almost in the same geographical location bar a metre or two, but the stands aisles are what has actually been moved.
I suspect we are all awaiting pictures of what they have done to confirm that.
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/stadium%20seat%20display?hallmap
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I am pissed off about the change in our seat position, but even more pissed off by the fact that they didn’t think it was important enough to tell us, or to offer us a priority relocation.
They just don’t give a shit.
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I am pissed off about the change in our seat position, but even more pissed off by the fact that they didn’t think it was important enough to tell us, or to offer us a priority relocation.
They just don’t give a shit.
Heck could have mentioned it in that soft chat with gabby in which he spent 20 minutes avoiding any discussion of the North stand and focussed on repeatedly telling us the Holte would remain as it was - something there has been absolutely no suggestion of any redevelopment of since it went up 30 years ago.
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I am pissed off about the change in our seat position, but even more pissed off by the fact that they didn’t think it was important enough to tell us, or to offer us a priority relocation.
They just don’t give a shit.
I remember people being moved from where I used to sit, in P6:3D cameras, would you believe?
By all accounts, the club were pretty good in dealing with it.
What's happening now doesn't sound right to me.
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From the comparison on the new and old designs, they have removed the "kinks" from when you first enter the lower Holte and decide to go up or down. So the seats might be almost in the same geographical location bar a metre or two, but the stands aisles are what has actually been moved.
I suspect we are all awaiting pictures of what they have done to confirm that.
As per the link exigo and Jane has posted, In not sure this is completely right. So in me and the kids situation, L2 row MM where we have for years has widened to encompass what would of been previously some of L1. L1 has as a result got smaller, but we have been moved into L1. We are going to be still on the same row, MM, but i just dont see how we will be occupying the same physical space. Our previous seats were about 8-10 seats in from the last set of stairs in the holte lower on the right facing the pitch, the new seats look about 5 or 6 seats in from the stairs in the other direction. Thats nearly 20 odd seats space towards the corner of the Holte that I wouldn’t choose to sit in.
I’m not into the conspiracy thing normally and I get that the rail seating is being tried in the extremities of the lower holte, but I also can’t help thinking both ourselves and Jane and Amfy in L7 are in the lower price zone. Presumably if we don’t like this we can ask to move to a higher price zone in July.
Like Jane and Amfy have said, being sent an email a day before season ticket renewal, on a Sunday afternoon is garbage. The first chance ill get to call the club is tomorrow, I’m not sure why im bothering as bound to get through to somebody who won’t know anything or have the power to change anything, but I want to at least have the conversation.
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5 am and my so called new seat position still causing me major migraine issues
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5 am and my so called new seat position still causing me major migraine issues
My phone pinged as it turned midnight and to my birthday here in Greece. It was Jane with the seat map. This morning, my phone which is on ‘Do Not Disturb’ until 10am, started pinging at 8am with birthday messages, despite it only being 6am in the UK. Then, the cleaners arrived next door and had a loud argument for 20 minutes, intermittently setting off the light sensor outside and lighting up our room.
It’s like some weird sci-fi reset kicked in as I turned 60 and turned everything to shit!
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Happy birthday, Amfy!
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Happy Birthday! I’m sure the rest of the year will be better. 8)
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5 am and my so called new seat position still causing me major migraine issues
My phone pinged as it turned midnight and to my birthday here in Greece. It was Jane with the seat map. This morning, my phone which is on ‘Do Not Disturb’ until 10am, started pinging at 8am with birthday messages, despite it only being 6am in the UK. Then, the cleaners arrived next door and had a loud argument for 20 minutes, intermittently setting off the light sensor outside and lighting up our room.
It’s like some weird sci-fi reset kicked in as I turned 60 and turned everything to shit!
Happy 60th Birthday Amfy.
I hope your day gets better and you have a great day.
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Have a great 60th Amfy - it is my 60th in a few weeks time - where have all those years gone?
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Happy Birthday Amfy. UTV.
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Yay! This is now my birthday thread! :D
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What a surprise, they are including a Champions League Cup Scheme.
Pretty sure someone was adamant this would not happen.
I'm pretty sure someone was adamant that CL tickets would be included in the season ticket, which is what I was adamant wouldn't happen. And hasn't.
I think I was pretty clear that they would offer a CL package to ST Holders and they have.
They haven't offered a package at all. They offered an option for people to avoid admin by an automatic purchase at the prevailing rate when tickets a released. That's not a 'package' it's the usual cup scheme. A package would be something like the 4 CL home games for £200.
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You can still sell it back to the club, but you only get 80% back (if it sells).
Which is fair enough.
It was fair enough when the club used to actually put them on sale. What happened in the second half of last season it they didn't put them on sale while there was still Terrace View and Lower Grounds availability. So it went from tickets selling virtually every time to not selling at all.
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You can still sell it back to the club, but you only get 80% back (if it sells).
Which is fair enough.
It was fair enough when the club used to actually put them on sale. What happened in the second half of last season it they didn't put them on sale while there was still Terrace View and Lower Grounds availability. So it went from tickets selling virtually every time to not selling at all.
Yeah, I thought that was a little bit unfair of them, really.
Conceptually, it's not unlike having a 50k stadium, with 49,9999 GA tickets and 1 single £1,000,000 ticket which is never going to sell, thus ruling out anyone selling their ticket on.
If they want to introduce this sort of change, ie the GA+ tickets must also sell out, it should be at the start of the season, not halfway through, as a lot of people will have made the decision to invest in a ST based on their ability to possibly sell it on if they can't go.
I know when i last had one, I missed quite a few games and used the sell-on feature quite frequently. That'd be way less of a possibility these days so it'd be a different purchasing decision.
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The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
Have you been moved or just the gangway filled in?
If it's just the gangway moved, would you have preferred everyone in a block where gangways were moved were added to the 900 displaced seats and to re-apply in the free for all, or do you think it was better that people stayed broadly where they were? It's a genuine question, as I imagine most would have preferred the latter. If you prefer the latter, then is your issue with communication, which clearly could and should have been better, or do you think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan?
I think it's different for people who have been split up or moved several rows or seats and I honestly don't know what the best answer for that would have been (accepting communication should have been better) but certainly, I think those that have been physically moved should get an independent relocation window with or just after the 900.
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Yay! This is now my birthday thread! :D
60? No way!
Happy bloody Birthday!
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From the comparison on the new and old designs, they have removed the "kinks" from when you first enter the lower Holte and decide to go up or down. So the seats might be almost in the same geographical location bar a metre or two, but the stands aisles are what has actually been moved.
I suspect we are all awaiting pictures of what they have done to confirm that.
As per the link exigo and Jane has posted, In not sure this is completely right. So in me and the kids situation, L2 row MM where we have for years has widened to encompass what would of been previously some of L1. L1 has as a result got smaller, but we have been moved into L1. We are going to be still on the same row, MM, but i just dont see how we will be occupying the same physical space. Our previous seats were about 8-10 seats in from the last set of stairs in the holte lower on the right facing the pitch, the new seats look about 5 or 6 seats in from the stairs in the other direction. Thats nearly 20 odd seats space towards the corner of the Holte that I wouldn’t choose to sit in.
I’m not into the conspiracy thing normally and I get that the rail seating is being tried in the extremities of the lower holte, but I also can’t help thinking both ourselves and Jane and Amfy in L7 are in the lower price zone. Presumably if we don’t like this we can ask to move to a higher price zone in July.
Moving 20 seats seems unacceptable as surely those seats closer to your old position still exist, so what on earth have they done with them?
Do you think they have reduced the size of the lower price Zone so have automatically moved you towards it? IF that is the case people affected should have been offered the option of either/or I think, although that would have been a logistical nightmare for the club.
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You can still sell it back to the club, but you only get 80% back (if it sells).
Which is fair enough.
It was fair enough when the club used to actually put them on sale. What happened in the second half of last season it they didn't put them on sale while there was still Terrace View and Lower Grounds availability. So it went from tickets selling virtually every time to not selling at all.
Yep, that was another shady move on their behalf.
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The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
Have you been moved or just the gangway filled in?
If it's just the gangway moved, would you have preferred everyone in a block where gangways were moved were added to the 900 displaced seats and to re-apply in the free for all, or do you think it was better that people stayed broadly where they were? It's a genuine question, as I imagine most would have preferred the latter. If you prefer the latter, then is your issue with communication, which clearly could and should have been better, or do you think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan?
I think it's different for people who have been split up or moved several rows or seats and I honestly don't know what the best answer for that would have been (accepting communication should have been better) but certainly, I think those that have been physically moved should get an independent relocation window with or just after the 900.
I definitely think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan and only ambiguously tell people the day before renewal. I chose that seat about 20 years ago because it backed onto the gangway and was close to the aisle. Now it's in the middle of a block with about 14 seats to the aisle which isn't really ideal for someone with claustrophobia and anxiety issues.
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On my moved seat in the Lower Holte from L4 to L5, just looked on the seat plan - previously there was 1 row in front of me before a gangway, If i decide to renew, in my new seat there will be 3 rows in front of me, before a gangway.
If i do renew, and I don't like my new seat (hoping for a padded cushion as part of the deal!) then this maybe my last season ticket.
It would have been a good idea for the club to have opened the ground for fans to see where their new seat position is, before they renew.
But with record numbers renewing on the 1st day, they probably don't care.
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From the comparison on the new and old designs, they have removed the "kinks" from when you first enter the lower Holte and decide to go up or down. So the seats might be almost in the same geographical location bar a metre or two, but the stands aisles are what has actually been moved.
I suspect we are all awaiting pictures of what they have done to confirm that.
As per the link exigo and Jane has posted, In not sure this is completely right. So in me and the kids situation, L2 row MM where we have for years has widened to encompass what would of been previously some of L1. L1 has as a result got smaller, but we have been moved into L1. We are going to be still on the same row, MM, but i just dont see how we will be occupying the same physical space. Our previous seats were about 8-10 seats in from the last set of stairs in the holte lower on the right facing the pitch, the new seats look about 5 or 6 seats in from the stairs in the other direction. Thats nearly 20 odd seats space towards the corner of the Holte that I wouldn’t choose to sit in.
I’m not into the conspiracy thing normally and I get that the rail seating is being tried in the extremities of the lower holte, but I also can’t help thinking both ourselves and Jane and Amfy in L7 are in the lower price zone. Presumably if we don’t like this we can ask to move to a higher price zone in July.
Moving 20 seats seems unacceptable as surely those seats closer to your old position still exist, so what on earth have they done with them?
Do you think they have reduced the size of the lower price Zone so have automatically moved you towards it? IF that is the case people affected should have been offered the option of either/or I think, although that would have been a logistical nightmare for the club.
I might be totally wrong with the number of seats but without any info from the club i have just tried to work it out from the stadium plan with seat numbers, people have helpfully posted on here.
L2 and L1 are both price zone 4, i dont think the overall price zone has decreased but Im just cynical it seems to be people in these zones whose seats are more expendable.
If it was just me i would just suck it, but my 17 and 14 year old have had those seats since they were 11 and 8 and if the view is worse, its really poor on them.
Ive emailed the club to complain and will ring when i get a chance tomorrow but not expecting much other than i can try reallocate when the times right. I just dont understand why we couldnt just be moved a few seats along?
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Agreed. Logically the max anyone should be moved is the width of an aisle.
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The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
Have you been moved or just the gangway filled in?
If it's just the gangway moved, would you have preferred everyone in a block where gangways were moved were added to the 900 displaced seats and to re-apply in the free for all, or do you think it was better that people stayed broadly where they were? It's a genuine question, as I imagine most would have preferred the latter. If you prefer the latter, then is your issue with communication, which clearly could and should have been better, or do you think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan?
I think it's different for people who have been split up or moved several rows or seats and I honestly don't know what the best answer for that would have been (accepting communication should have been better) but certainly, I think those that have been physically moved should get an independent relocation window with or just after the 900.
The gangway has been filled in.
It used to run across the middle of L7 (& most of the stand) at the back of row Z & in front of where the double lettering starts (cc, did, etc). The gangway stopped at L8.
Now L8 & L7 have been amalgamated and there is now gangway across L7. This has been used to create (I guess) 3 extra rows of seats across what used to be L7.
I appreciate they need to create more seats and can see how this is potentially a reasonable way to do this (I am sure it has to pass H&S/evacuation checks).
What I am not happy about is the poor communication and the sense that they don’t seem to have considered that this might trouble anyone. People in other stands have had their seats completely removed, but they were not offered a seat 20 seats away and told it was ‘comparable’ and just to use the relocation window if they weren’t happy.
Our seat numbers are only 2 seats different, but our ‘position’ is about 20 seats different. (The pitch view may be similar but the quality of the position is very inferior).
There will actually be loads of people who have kept their same seat number but will get there in August and find their seat is somewhere else entirely. (It’s going to be chaos!) I guess we are lucky that at least we know we have an offer that doesn’t work for us while there is still some potential (I don’t know how much) to act on it!
Even in the email informing us of the change, the first paragraph only refers to changes in the other stands, like there’s nothing to see here in The Holte.
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I agree it's going to be absolute chaos first game, they'd do well to stick a friendly on before and give free entry to season ticket holders as a bit of a dry run.
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It says there's a form to fill in if you want a season card. Can anyone direct me to where this form is located on the official site please?
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Had to renew the old fashioned way, by phone
Wouldn’t let me do it online.
Did ask if it was a problem with the site or at my end.
They confirmed it’s an issue at the Villa end.
They are endeavouring to sort it.
In case others are having the same trouble.
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Our seat numbers are only 2 seats different, but our ‘position’ is about 20 seats different. (The pitch view may be similar but the quality of the position is very inferior).
So you know for sure you have shifted 20 seats in one direction? Or 20 seats difference because you are 20 seats into an aisle instead of 6?
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Had to renew the old fashioned way, by phone
Wouldn’t let me do it online.
Did ask if it was a problem with the site or at my end.
They confirmed it’s an issue at the Villa end.
They are endeavouring to sort it.
In case others are having the same trouble.
I couldn't do it online.And the phone line says we're too busy.
Champions League ,you're having..
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Had to renew the old fashioned way, by phone
Wouldn’t let me do it online.
Did ask if it was a problem with the site or at my end.
They confirmed it’s an issue at the Villa end.
They are endeavouring to sort it.
In case others are having the same trouble.
I couldn't do it online.And the phone line says we're too busy.
Champions League ,you're having..
I did it quite quickly a moment ago on line via the email notification the club sent out yesterday. It was a breeze.
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lol
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They’ve now put the specific seat plan online so if you’ve been moved it may give you a better idea of where your exact seat is.
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Our seat numbers are only 2 seats different, but our ‘position’ is about 20 seats different. (The pitch view may be similar but the quality of the position is very inferior).
So you know for sure you have shifted 20 seats in one direction? Or 20 seats difference because you are 20 seats into an aisle instead of 6?
Our seat numbers are only 2 seats different, but our ‘position’ is about 20 seats different. (The pitch view may be similar but the quality of the position is very inferior).
So you know for sure you have shifted 20 seats in one direction? Or 20 seats difference because you are 20 seats into an aisle instead of 6?
The second one.
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They’ve now put the specific seat plan online so if you’ve been moved it may give you a better idea of where your exact seat is.
Any link to it?
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https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/stadium%20seat%20display?hallmap
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There's also an old one still on there for comparison, I think this may be two seasons old?
https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1000x1000/ecb3d250-c2e1-11eb-bc87-c7eb39c3074e.jpg (https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1000x1000/ecb3d250-c2e1-11eb-bc87-c7eb39c3074e.jpg)
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https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/stadium%20seat%20display?hallmap
That one has been posted multiple times, I thought he said a specific seat map so people could actually see what the differences were properly.
Edit: I didn't realise if you clicked the areas and selected it shows you the seat layout for that zone.
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You can click into the blocks.
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So if that's right I've been shunted over towards Witton Lane a fair bit and they've squeezed an extra row in behind us, which is annoying as I liked being at the back.
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Something that has just clicked as well, there's a lounge area at end of the concourse in the Upper North that was opened up as extra space last season, but closed last game. Its directly below where the hospitality seats are located in the Upper North and above the ones in the lower tier.
I had a feeling that it was opened last season in a trial run for this.
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As per the link exigo and Jane has posted, In not sure this is completely right. So in me and the kids situation, L2 row MM where we have for years has widened to encompass what would of been previously some of L1. L1 has as a result got smaller, but we have been moved into L1. We are going to be still on the same row, MM, but i just dont see how we will be occupying the same physical space. Our previous seats were about 8-10 seats in from the last set of stairs in the holte lower on the right facing the pitch, the new seats look about 5 or 6 seats in from the stairs in the other direction. Thats nearly 20 odd seats space towards the corner of the Holte that I wouldn’t choose to sit in.
The stairs used to kink towards the left of the stand, now they seem to go straight up from the exit so that could be why it appears you are moved across more then you might have been, although as your seats would have been probably eaten up with the change in aisle, you would have been moved more then some. You are all in the rail seating area though so they might not be suitable for your needs which I would have thought the club would have communicated with you earlier anyway.
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Something that has just clicked as well, there's a lounge area at end of the concourse in the Upper North that was opened up as extra space last season, but closed last game. Its directly below where the hospitality seats are located in the Upper North and above the ones in the lower tier.
I had a feeling that it was opened last season in a trial run for this.
How big was this space?
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Not huge, but it has its own toilets and bar already. It was dormant for ages, staff used to sneak in there to doss, then suddenly they opened it up and it helped relieve a bit of the crush down there and made it not impossible to a) get a drink and b) be able to lift your arms to drink it
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They're fast running out of these areas they can do something with, I bet.
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Had to renew the old fashioned way, by phone
Wouldn’t let me do it online.
Did ask if it was a problem with the site or at my end.
They confirmed it’s an issue at the Villa end.
They are endeavouring to sort it.
In case others are having the same trouble.
My dad is having a nightmare. Please can you drop me their number.
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The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
Have you been moved or just the gangway filled in?
If it's just the gangway moved, would you have preferred everyone in a block where gangways were moved were added to the 900 displaced seats and to re-apply in the free for all, or do you think it was better that people stayed broadly where they were? It's a genuine question, as I imagine most would have preferred the latter. If you prefer the latter, then is your issue with communication, which clearly could and should have been better, or do you think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan?
I think it's different for people who have been split up or moved several rows or seats and I honestly don't know what the best answer for that would have been (accepting communication should have been better) but certainly, I think those that have been physically moved should get an independent relocation window with or just after the 900.
I definitely think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan and only ambiguously tell people the day before renewal. I chose that seat about 20 years ago because it backed onto the gangway and was close to the aisle. Now it's in the middle of a block with about 14 seats to the aisle which isn't really ideal for someone with claustrophobia and anxiety issues.
If your anxiety and claustrophobia are long-standing and have a significant impact on your daily activities, they may qualify as disabilities under the equality act. In that case, the club might be committing indirect disability discrimination by moving you in this way. I wonder if you could contact the clubs disability officer for some advice in the first instance?
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If anyone is struggling to get past the payment screen on their phone, what eventually worked for me... was turning my screen sideways! It was the only way to make the "process payment" button appear. Judging by Twitter I wasn't the only idiot struggling with that.
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If anyone is struggling to get past the payment screen on their phone, what eventually worked for me... was turning my screen sideways! It was the only way to make the "process payment" button appear. Judging by Twitter I wasn't the only idiot struggling with that.
I've found that in the past.
Nice to see you again.
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👍🏼
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If anyone is struggling to get past the payment screen on their phone, what eventually worked for me... was turning my screen sideways! It was the only way to make the "process payment" button appear. Judging by Twitter I wasn't the only idiot struggling with that.
Thank you for the great advice.This old fart managed to do it finally.
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If anyone is struggling to get past the payment screen on their phone, what eventually worked for me... was turning my screen sideways! It was the only way to make the "process payment" button appear. Judging by Twitter I wasn't the only idiot struggling with that.
Thank you for the great advice.This old fart managed to do it finally.
See you in August then
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If anyone is struggling to get past the payment screen on their phone, what eventually worked for me... was turning my screen sideways! It was the only way to make the "process payment" button appear. Judging by Twitter I wasn't the only idiot struggling with that.
I am. I closed the website down as assumed it was a glitch and I've reopened it to be told payment is still being processed. Hopefully they'll resolve it.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
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Didn't give me an option but I've had a digital season ticket last year to go with my card. Still processing payment. Not sure what the issue is.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
Digital. I believe there's an extra charge if you want plastic.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
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Had to renew the old fashioned way, by phone
Wouldn’t let me do it online.
Did ask if it was a problem with the site or at my end.
They confirmed it’s an issue at the Villa end.
They are endeavouring to sort it.
In case others are having the same trouble.
I got there online in the end.When the bank authorisation kicks in, no option available to progress until I minimised top half of the page which then provided the link to proceed. Hope this helps others who may be in a similar predicament.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
Cheers
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
Cheers
Think I'll just keep this season's and tip-ex out '23', whilst adding '25'.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
So you have to give a valid reason AND pay £20! So even if your reason is that you have a disability, you still have to pay???
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If L1 had widened as a result of the work then I think I'd be more more comfortable with the possibility we might be in a similar physical space. But L2 has expanded, L1 seemingly reduced and we've been moved into L1. Even with reconfiguration in the stand, I cannot see how we cannot be physically moving the equivalent of 20 seats or so across. I might be totally wrong of course and I hope I am, but if I'm not, it's really not on shunting me and my teenagers who have spent 10 years going down the villa and 6 of those years in the same seats, over to the far right hand side (as you face the pitch) of the stand with no notice.
I've had a holding response to my complaint so far, e g it's been passed onto the relevant people. I'll see if I get any sort of reply, but I really doubt they will give a shit.
I do also realise the status quo isn't possible with new rail seating but as others have said, one days notice, with more info being provided by this forum other than the club, is driving me to distraction to be honest.
I'm also aware this may seem like first world problems, but my monthly payments will be approaching £150 a month for these potentially inferior seats that I knew nothing about till Sunday. That's a lot of money for us as a family. It leaves a bad taste.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
So you have to give a valid reason AND pay £20! So even if your reason is that you have a disability, you still have to pay???
I think they said before the charge might/not apply; well the same laws would potentially apply as:
The gangway behind us (as the last row previously) seems to have disappeared as well. Just rubbish by Villa.
Have you been moved or just the gangway filled in?
If it's just the gangway moved, would you have preferred everyone in a block where gangways were moved were added to the 900 displaced seats and to re-apply in the free for all, or do you think it was better that people stayed broadly where they were? It's a genuine question, as I imagine most would have preferred the latter. If you prefer the latter, then is your issue with communication, which clearly could and should have been better, or do you think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan?
I think it's different for people who have been split up or moved several rows or seats and I honestly don't know what the best answer for that would have been (accepting communication should have been better) but certainly, I think those that have been physically moved should get an independent relocation window with or just after the 900.
I definitely think it's unreasonable for the club to evolve the seating plan and only ambiguously tell people the day before renewal. I chose that seat about 20 years ago because it backed onto the gangway and was close to the aisle. Now it's in the middle of a block with about 14 seats to the aisle which isn't really ideal for someone with claustrophobia and anxiety issues.
If your anxiety and claustrophobia are long-standing and have a significant impact on your daily activities, they may qualify as disabilities under the equality act. In that case, the club might be committing indirect disability discrimination by moving you in this way. I wonder if you could contact the clubs disability officer for some advice in the first instance?
I agree this would/could be discrimination and the club might need to make reasonable adjustments;
Similarly presumably it's age discrimination if my 4yo, 5 3 weeks today, has to pay an extra £20 for not having a smart phone, in order to get her - yes count them - 4th Season Ticket!
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
So you have to give a valid reason AND pay £20! So even if your reason is that you have a disability, you still have to pay???
Them cards ain’t gona make themselves
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I'll be honest, I do fucking hate that now you're expected to own an expensive device to gain entry to events.
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I asked for the card, they can sod off if they think I'm paying £20 for it, though. Guess I'll have to get the shitty digital version. I hope this isn't going to require me to have actual phone signal at Villa Park or I might as well not bother attending.
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Nah, it sits in your 'wallet' if you have iPhone. Assume there's similar for Android.
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So I don't need signal?
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So I don't need signal?
No.
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Just as a heads-up…a couple of times I attempted to use a downloaded tkt in my apple wallet for European games last season, it didn’t work and I had to use the email (e-ticket) with the QR code in order to gain admittance. Hope this problem is resolved for the coming season.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
So you have to give a valid reason AND pay £20! So even if your reason is that you have a disability, you still have to pay???
You shouldnt need to give a reason if youre paying extra for it. That's ridiculous.
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So I don't need signal?
No.
Sorted. Will figure it out nearer the time, then. Thanks.
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Are you having to renew with a digital ST or can you order a card?
I asked and was given this link, £20 each https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
So you have to give a valid reason AND pay £20! So even if your reason is that you have a disability, you still have to pay???
This is in the FAQs on the website ?
All season tickets this season will be digital and supporters can add their digital season ticket to an Apple or Google wallet as an NFC pass. Season Ticket Holders who wish for a physical card instead will need to fill out a form on the website stating the reason for the need for a season ticket. Applicable reasons why would be if someone has a medical condition, or a supporter doesn’t have a smartphone. This card would then be sent out free of charge. Any future reprint would entail a charge as per previous seasons.
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We've been informed by the club that one of our group who has a disability and his carer can receive a season card without payment.
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Going to be a lot of fans without smartphones over the next few weeks.
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Going to be a lot of fans without smartphones over the next few weeks.
What's a smartyphone? asking for a friend
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When you click on the link (which is contained within the AV's confirmation of your ST purchase) to apply for a ST card , it just takes you to the general page about renewing your ST? Anyone know how to access the ST card request?
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Reading on Twitter and here it sounds like the club has made a right pigs ear of reshuffling people around a few moved aisle's.
Maybe it's harder than it sounds, but they're creating extra seats not fewer. I can't really understand why some people have to be randomly shited miles from their mates, surely the most anyone should really have to shuffle ought to be the width of an aisle? It would be really interesting to see the overlayed seat plans to work out why it has proven so complex.
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I also wonder if there was a question put out about whether they would like rail seating and the ones who responded no might have been moved if the seat was within Rail sections? But without any mention until now.
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They have created extra seats by partially amalgamating L1 & L2 & L7 & L8.
That in itself shouldn’t make much difference.
But 8 think that while they are shunting, they have also taken out some single seat gaps, so that empty seats are now at least in pairs (and groups) and therefore easier to sell.
Our seats are further towards the high number end of the stand, but we now have lower numbers.
I think generally if you sit next to someone, you probably still do, but many people have tickets one in front of the other, and they have been impacted by different rows moving at different rates depending on how much ‘shunting up’ for non ST seats has happened in each row.
Looking on Twitter etc there seem to be a lot of people in rail seats who aren’t happy about it so I doubt that’s a factor. They would do well to create a register of interest on that and facilitate swaps rather than random relocation. There’ll be people in the front section that quite fancy safe standing, and people in the back section that never wanted it, but you won’t move unless there’s a space where you want to go.
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At least you're able to buy your season tickets!
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They have created extra seats by partially amalgamating L1 & L2 & L7 & L8.
That in itself shouldn’t make much difference.
But 8 think that while they are shunting, they have also taken out some single seat gaps, so that empty seats are now at least in pairs (and groups) and therefore easier to sell.
Our seats are further towards the high number end of the stand, but we now have lower numbers.
I think generally if you sit next to someone, you probably still do, but many people have tickets one in front of the other, and they have been impacted by different rows moving at different rates depending on how much ‘shunting up’ for non ST seats has happened in each row.
Looking on Twitter etc there seem to be a lot of people in rail seats who aren’t happy about it so I doubt that’s a factor. They would do well to create a register of interest on that and facilitate swaps rather than random relocation. There’ll be people in the front section that quite fancy safe standing, and people in the back section that never wanted it, but you won’t move unless there’s a space where you want to go.
I can definitely see them doing this.
They would probably benefit from doing this each summer, but with consultation with the ticket holders.
I bet there are lots of situations where a group of two or more next to a single empty seat could create a double space by shifting down one, or one person swapping from one side to the other of the group.
They could offer you a small incentive if you were willing to shift and if they kept on top of it they would only have to do a few each season.
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Reading on Twitter and here it sounds like the club has made a right pigs ear of reshuffling people around a few moved aisle's.
Maybe it's harder than it sounds, but they're creating extra seats not fewer. I can't really understand why some people have to be randomly shited miles from their mates, surely the most anyone should really have to shuffle ought to be the width of an aisle? It would be really interesting to see the overlayed seat plans to work out why it has proven so complex.
I had an email back from the club yesterday stating pretty much because of the extra seating put in they have reconfigured the stadium bowl, but have tried to group together people with shared booking transactions. They have also assured me that despite a change in block our view will remain largely unchanged and then provided me with the link to the stadium plan thats been posted on here previously.
Im being a pendant and have gone back and asked exactly how far in terms of approximate yards or number of seats we’re moving, as I just don’t buy that L1 has moved position in the Holte other that become smaller. I have also asked why with extra seating in L2 we’ve had to be moved out of there at all.
Ive no problem with rail seating, everyone stood by us anyway.
Anyway, Im boring myself with this now, nevermind anyone else unfortunate enough to read my ramblings.
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Looks like I'm yet another L1 season ticket holder who's been moved without warning. Apparently I'll need to phone the ticket office to renew.
I've another idea about people wanting physical cards. As a reason, why not say you had problems using the phone (eg the phone refusing entry on the turnstile for the Conference games and the turnstile operator having to come out of the booth to let you in) and you would rather have a card as back-up, as if it were. This is it what I'm going to try and do.
Re smartphones: the club will sus out you have access to one if you used it to get into the Europe games last season. Just a thought. Hope this makes sense
EDIT - gave the renewal another go on the website: went through with no problem. Still in same seat.
Weird. The whole thing is a cock up!
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Had a really helpful call from someone at the tocket office today. He explained exactly whats happened to my old seats, and how L2 and L1 has been reconfigured and the size of both areas differs to how it looks on the stadium plan. He explained exactly where me and the kids seats are going to be and that they are about 6 seats over to the right, from where we have been for years.
As Ive said really helpful. If I hadn’t of complained by email and then again after the standardised reply, I wouldn’t of got that call.
Anyway I’ve renewed.
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6 seats sounds about right for the width of an aisle.
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Looks like I'm yet another L1 season ticket holder who's been moved without warning. Apparently I'll need to phone the ticket office to renew.
I've another idea about people wanting physical cards. As a reason, why not say you had problems using the phone (eg the phone refusing entry on the turnstile for the Conference games and the turnstile operator having to come out of the booth to let you in) and you would rather have a card as back-up, as if it were. This is it what I'm going to try and do.
Re smartphones: the club will sus out you have access to one if you used it to get into the Europe games last season. Just a thought. Hope this makes sense
EDIT - gave the renewal another go on the website: went through with no problem. Still in same seat.
Weird. The whole thing is a cock up!
Just because you had a smartphone last season does not mean you still have one.
😉😉😉
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I also wonder if there was a question put out about whether they would like rail seating and the ones who responded no might have been moved if the seat was within Rail sections? But without any mention until now.
Didn't even know they were installing it and never asked
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The whole demographic of football supporters has changed from the 70s & 80s to what we have now
I think it will change again over the next decade or so
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Checking the link for my seat, according to them I am moving about 12 seats same row which means I am seating in the disabled section lower Holte, because I got a discount last season because of restricted views next to the disabled section my ticket has increased £160 each to £818, still waiting for my son to pay for last year ticket
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If you're shelling out £20 for a physical ST, why do you need to provide a reason for wanting one? That box should be populated with "none of your fucking business"
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astonvilla82 I sympathise with you about your son. My son has had a season ticket since he was about 10 . He is now 42 and I'M STILL WAITING !
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astonvilla82 I sympathise with you about your son. My son has had a season ticket since he was about 10 . He is now 42 and I'M STILL WAITING !
😳,I Thought I was a mug, you have cheered me up thanks and he's on a extremely good wage, tight little S**t
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astonvilla82 I sympathise with you about your son. My son has had a season ticket since he was about 10 . He is now 42 and I'M STILL WAITING !
:)
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Looks like I'm yet another L1 season ticket holder who's been moved without warning. Apparently I'll need to phone the ticket office to renew.
I've another idea about people wanting physical cards. As a reason, why not say you had problems using the phone (eg the phone refusing entry on the turnstile for the Conference games and the turnstile operator having to come out of the booth to let you in) and you would rather have a card as back-up, as if it were. This is it what I'm going to try and do.
Re smartphones: the club will sus out you have access to one if you used it to get into the Europe games last season. Just a thought. Hope this makes sense
EDIT - gave the renewal another go on the website: went through with no problem. Still in same seat.
Weird. The whole thing is a cock up!
Just because you had a smartphone last season does not mean you still have one.
😉😉😉
True: I hadn't woken up when I typed the post! :)
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If you're shelling out £20 for a physical ST, why do you need to provide a reason for wanting one? That box should be populated with "none of your fucking business"
Exactly
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I haven't seen any reference to the free-credit monthly repayments. Does anyone know if they're doing this for next season or have the canned it?
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I haven't seen any reference to the free-credit monthly repayments. Does anyone know if they're doing this for next season or have the canned it?
Yes this is still available, over 8 months.
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I haven't seen any reference to the free-credit monthly repayments. Does anyone know if they're doing this for next season or have the canned it?
19.87% interest.
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I haven't seen any reference to the free-credit monthly repayments. Does anyone know if they're doing this for next season or have the canned it?
19.87% interest.
??!! wow.
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Interest was never mentioned when I renewed with instalment plan?
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It was apparently interest when they were first on sale but that was an error and it was removed pretty sharpish.
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Ive renewed and signed the credit agreement, its interest free for 8 months, July to February inclusive.
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If you're shelling out £20 for a physical ST, why do you need to provide a reason for wanting one? That box should be populated with "none of your fucking business"
Exactly
Well some of the reasons mean they might "refund" you / not charge. Or they just want to gather data on reasons that might not have been considered. Of course if you want to not tell them, I suspect you also have that right the same as the club has a right not to serve you.
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I haven't seen any reference to the free-credit monthly repayments. Does anyone know if they're doing this for next season or have the canned it?
There is an 8 month 0% interest payment plan via V12 . Or you can pay the lot up front. It's a no brainer and if you have a good credit rating V12 will accept you.
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Renewed last night and also requested the plastic card - does anyone know how quickly the club contacts you, to collect the £20.00 fee?
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How do I request a plastic card if Ive already renewed?
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How do I request a plastic card if Ive already renewed?
I think there's a link on here sonwhere which someone posted.
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ta, its here if anyone else wants it https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
£20 though, as if they haven't had enough from me.
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Among the benefits of renewing according to the email I received last night are:
a) guaranteed seat for PL games and
b) a digital season ticket that will be emailed to me.
No shit.......
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ta, its here if anyone else wants it https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
£20 though, as if they haven't had enough from me.
Can you use Pride Rewards or whatever they call it?
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Good idea that, I usually waste them anyway.
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
What is your Samsung wallet on? Won't it be using Android and therefore have Android Wallet?
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I'm on the verge of renewing. I do not want to tick the box to auto-buy for Champions League games without them telling me the price first, even though I will be buying them anyway. I'm just paranoid that they will decide I can't have my normal seat for those games because I didn't commit to the ticket without knowing the price.
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
What is your Samsung wallet on? Won't it be using Android and therefore have Android Wallet?
It's on my Samsung phone. I guess it was a silly question!
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
What is your Samsung wallet on? Won't it be using Android and therefore have Android Wallet?
It's on my Samsung phone. I guess it was a silly question!
Others may know better, but I think all Samsung phones are android and so should have Android Wallet there. You may just need to set it up.
No idea of what Samsung wallet is, or if it's just Android Wallet branded for them or something.
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
What is your Samsung wallet on? Won't it be using Android and therefore have Android Wallet?
It's on my Samsung phone. I guess it was a silly question!
Others may know better, but I think all Samsung phones are android and so should have Android Wallet there. You may just need to set it up.
No idea of what Samsung wallet is, or if it's just Android Wallet branded for them or something.
Yeah, I think it's that.
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
You should have a "Play Store" icon on your Samsung Phone where you get your apps from, Go in there and download the Google Wallet app
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
You should have a "Play Store" icon on your Samsung Phone where you get your apps from, Go in there and download the Google Wallet app
Thanks!
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I'm on the verge of renewing. I do not want to tick the box to auto-buy for Champions League games without them telling me the price first, even though I will be buying them anyway. I'm just paranoid that they will decide I can't have my normal seat for those games because I didn't commit to the ticket without knowing the price.
You'll be fine. There will be a window for ST holders to buy their own seats, just like any cup game.
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Having felt like I was banging my head off a wall for a couple of weeks, I got a call from lovely Anthony in the accessibilty team today who has really done his best to sort us out. Our seats still aren’t as good as what we had, but they do now meet our accessibilty needs and we were given choices.
I mentioned that we would miss the bloke who has sat next to us for a long time, and he even advised that he can relocate with us if he wants, and has left that option open for us while I get in touch with him!
So we are not only sorted, but Anthony has restored our faith that someone at the club cares. Which is a great outcome!
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Having felt like I was banging my head off a wall for a couple of weeks, I got a call from lovely Anthony in the accessibilty team today who has really done his best to sort us out. Our seats still aren’t as good as what we had, but they do now meet our accessibilty needs and we were given choices.
I mentioned that we would miss the bloke who has sat next to us for a long time, and he even advised that he can relocate with us if he wants, and has left that option open for us while I get in touch with him!
So we are not only sorted, but Anthony has restored our faith that someone at the club cares. Which is a great outcome!
Great to hear they’ve sorted you out!
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This might be a silly question, but is a Samsung wallet essentially the same as a Google or Apple wallet? My email says my ticket can be added to either of those two wallets, which I don't have, so I'm wondering if adding it to my Samsung wallet will be fine.
What is your Samsung wallet on? Won't it be using Android and therefore have Android Wallet?
It's on my Samsung phone. I guess it was a silly question!
Others may know better, but I think all Samsung phones are android and so should have Android Wallet there. You may just need to set it up.
No idea of what Samsung wallet is, or if it's just Android Wallet branded for them or something.
I ended up downloading Google Wallet from Google Play on my Samsung mobile that runs on Android.
Google Wallet is currently empty, awaiting the arrival of my new season ticket.
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I'm on the verge of renewing. I do not want to tick the box to auto-buy for Champions League games without them telling me the price first, even though I will be buying them anyway. I'm just paranoid that they will decide I can't have my normal seat for those games because I didn't commit to the ticket without knowing the price.
You'll be fine. There will be a window for ST holders to buy their own seats, just like any cup game.
I know it's likely that will remain the case but my trust in the club is quite low right now
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Samsung Wallet is just their attempt at having a wallet. For payment details, it isn't accepted in as many countries as Google pay but it would probably have worked as the wallet for the season ticket as I suspect Samsung would have redirected the links for "Add to Google Wallet" to move it into their own.
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Yay! This is now my birthday thread! :D
Happy birthday Amfy, sorry I’m late.
(Being 37,000th on the waiting list, this thread is of little interest to me).
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After next season you should move down 2000 or so according to Heck as they are adding more ST's in then.
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Do corporate season ticket holders have to change the names when they invite different people along.
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Do corporate season ticket holders have to change the names when they invite different people along.
Think so as all attendees need to have a named lanyard for security
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How do you apply for the plastic card , cant see it online so must be a phone call.
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I'd like a plastic card for my lad too, as there will he times when he stays at his grandparents and we meet at the Villa. Don't want them having to wait for me to show up to get in.
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Having felt like I was banging my head off a wall for a couple of weeks, I got a call from lovely Anthony in the accessibilty team today who has really done his best to sort us out. Our seats still aren’t as good as what we had, but they do now meet our accessibilty needs and we were given choices.
I mentioned that we would miss the bloke who has sat next to us for a long time, and he even advised that he can relocate with us if he wants, and has left that option open for us while I get in touch with him!
So we are not only sorted, but Anthony has restored our faith that someone at the club cares. Which is a great outcome!
Anthony is brilliant. He's helped me with wheelchair tickets for Top Cat on a number of occasions.
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Having felt like I was banging my head off a wall for a couple of weeks, I got a call from lovely Anthony in the accessibilty team today who has really done his best to sort us out. Our seats still aren’t as good as what we had, but they do now meet our accessibilty needs and we were given choices.
I mentioned that we would miss the bloke who has sat next to us for a long time, and he even advised that he can relocate with us if he wants, and has left that option open for us while I get in touch with him!
So we are not only sorted, but Anthony has restored our faith that someone at the club cares. Which is a great outcome!
Anthony is brilliant. He's helped me with wheelchair tickets for Top Cat on a number of occasions.
I’m glad to hear that but not surprised! I sent some positive feedback to Lee Preece about him and both he and Lee have got back to me with thank yous for that.
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Having felt like I was banging my head off a wall for a couple of weeks, I got a call from lovely Anthony in the accessibilty team today who has really done his best to sort us out. Our seats still aren’t as good as what we had, but they do now meet our accessibilty needs and we were given choices.
I mentioned that we would miss the bloke who has sat next to us for a long time, and he even advised that he can relocate with us if he wants, and has left that option open for us while I get in touch with him!
So we are not only sorted, but Anthony has restored our faith that someone at the club cares. Which is a great outcome!
Anthony is brilliant. He's helped me with wheelchair tickets for Top Cat on a number of occasions.
I’m glad to hear that but not surprised! I sent some positive feedback to Lee Preece about him and both he and Lee have got back to me with thank yous for that.
Goad you got sorted. I had a really helpful call from the ticket office last week after I complained, faith restored
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Terrace View and Cells appeara to have sold/be selling pretty reasonably. The Lower Grounds tickets though don't appear to have sold well at all.
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Terrace View and Cells appeara to have sold/be selling pretty reasonably. The Lower Grounds tickets though don't appear to have sold well at all.
It's not a big surprise re Lower Grounds, I can't imagine many people want to eat and drink all you want every single game. Strikes me as that's a more attractive offer for an occasional blowout.
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Terrace View and Cells appeara to have sold/be selling pretty reasonably. The Lower Grounds tickets though don't appear to have sold well at all.
It's not a big surprise re Lower Grounds, I can't imagine many people want to eat and drink all you want every single game. Strikes me as that's a more attractive offer for an occasional blowout.
Yeah, and can you still buy it as an add-on to your season ticket on a match by match basis?
Also, you suspect that a lot of people will take the cheaper Cells and TV tickets while they are available, leaving some to opt for Lower Grounds when it's all that's left.
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There were two LG seats next to me in the UH last season and they were always used, sometimes by the same people on different occasions and with the exception of Newton Heath, all Villa fans, vocal and committed.
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Relocation day tomorrow?!
Does anybody know if the ticket office will be open
And will the online seat plan be live with seat availability ?
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I have some family members who have memberships
Can anyone tell if if they auto renew ? I thought I read something that said they did now, but can’t remember
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Trying to renew my mates ST and the bloody site crashed (as per usual) and when I try a different browser it won't let me go ahead as it says he already has his ticket allocated now, presumably because it's stuck in my basket somewhere. Can't phone the ticket office as it's closed today and tomorrow and the deadline is tomorrow at midnight, great! Hoping it will expire from the basket in a set time?
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Trying to renew my mates ST and the bloody site crashed (as per usual) and when I try a different browser it won't let me go ahead as it says he already has his ticket allocated now, presumably because it's stuck in my basket somewhere. Can't phone the ticket office as it's closed today and tomorrow and the deadline is tomorrow at midnight, great! Hoping it will expire from the basket in a set time?
You need to get the Internet turned off and on again to sort that mate.
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Trying to renew my mates ST and the bloody site crashed (as per usual) and when I try a different browser it won't let me go ahead as it says he already has his ticket allocated now, presumably because it's stuck in my basket somewhere. Can't phone the ticket office as it's closed today and tomorrow and the deadline is tomorrow at midnight, great! Hoping it will expire from the basket in a set time?
You need to get the Internet turned off and on again to sort that mate.
I blame that Tim Berners bloke
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Trying to renew my mates ST and the bloody site crashed (as per usual) and when I try a different browser it won't let me go ahead as it says he already has his ticket allocated now, presumably because it's stuck in my basket somewhere. Can't phone the ticket office as it's closed today and tomorrow and the deadline is tomorrow at midnight, great! Hoping it will expire from the basket in a set time?
clear cookies and history, try logging out and back in of your Villa ID account I should have added
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Relocation day tomorrow?!
Does anybody know if the ticket office will be open
And will the online seat plan be live with seat availability ?
The Ticket Office has gone mate its now part of the super/mega store
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Ticket Office, RIP. Puts football in perspective. From a club shop fan.
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Relocation day tomorrow?!
Does anybody know if the ticket office will be open
And will the online seat plan be live with seat availability ?
The Ticket Office has gone mate its now part of the super/mega store
Where has the ticket office gone to then ?
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Relocation day tomorrow?!
Does anybody know if the ticket office will be open
And will the online seat plan be live with seat availability ?
The Ticket Office has gone mate its now part of the super/mega store
Where has the ticket office gone to then ?
Not sure mate ...I am sure something will be sorted for the start of the new season
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Ringing up tomorrow to sort a physical ST so I can pass on when I can't go.
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There hasn't been a real ticket office for ages as they're all working from home. It only ever seemed to be open on match days.
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I wonder what they’ll do with the smaller shop by the Holte End.
Will they refurb it or close it? I’d guess they’ll want to encourage us all to go to the new one.
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I wonder what they’ll do with the smaller shop by the Holte End.
Will they refurb it or close it? I’d guess they’ll want to encourage us all to go to the new one.
It will be a corporate lounge called the stubs
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I wonder what they’ll do with the smaller shop by the Holte End.
Will they refurb it or close it? I’d guess they’ll want to encourage us all to go to the new one.
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
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I wonder what they’ll do with the smaller shop by the Holte End.
Will they refurb it or close it? I’d guess they’ll want to encourage us all to go to the new one.
It will be a corporate lounge called the stubs
Or just Ears. Where for just £1000 a season, fans can eat hot dogs and listen to the sound of the Holte.
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I wonder what they’ll do with the smaller shop by the Holte End.
Will they refurb it or close it? I’d guess they’ll want to encourage us all to go to the new one.
It will be a corporate lounge called the stubs
Or just Ears. Where for just £1000 a season, fans can eat hot dogs and listen to the sound of the Holte.
You managed to quote me before I deleted my post. I didn’t read yours properly and thought it referred to the old ticket office
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Ticket Office, RIP. Puts football in perspective. From a club shop fan.
Respect from a Pride Rewards Collection Point fan.
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
Send Avfcsupport a direct message on twitter if you're registered on there, hopefully they'll sort you out in the morning...
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
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I would suggest not leaving it to the very last minute.
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
Send Avfcsupport a direct message on twitter if you're registered on there, hopefully they'll sort you out in the morning...
Yep, I’ve found this to be the best method of contacting the TO
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
Send Avfcsupport a direct message on twitter if you're registered on there, hopefully they'll sort you out in the morning...
Claret Member condolences.
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Ok so trying to renew season ticket and saying error no ticket found…
Suggestions??
I thought the closing date for renewals was the 22nd. You might be too late. Hope I’m wrong.
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As they arent selling any new season tickets you might be ok.
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But the non-renewals were being offered to the displaced ones so if they have opened those early. I'm surprised people are renewing on the deadline as wozwebs was doing it as well. I realise not everyone can commit to a season straight away but to wait until the last minute with our website does seem to be asking for trouble.
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Plus the 0% interest deal available to all meant there was zero point delaying the renewal if you planned to renew.
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Plus the 0% interest deal available to all meant there was zero point delaying the renewal if you planned to renew.
Maybe somebody who needed to leave it until the last minute might also be in a situation where they didn’t have a good credit score.
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The deadline is the deadline surely, you can't just close it early and blame the supporters (although i'm sure they'll be delighted if they've managed to swindle a few more GA+ seats this way).
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Plus the 0% interest deal available to all meant there was zero point delaying the renewal if you planned to renew.
Maybe somebody who needed to leave it until the last minute might also be in a situation where they didn’t have a good credit score.
Ok Martin Lewis, calm down. ;)
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The club say they are now calling the North Stand diaspora about
shoving them into the mop cupboard relocating them;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1805556552503329166 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1805556552503329166)
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Ah excellent, I know I’ve got my mornings free on July3/4 when they get round to the displaced A2 Brigada.
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The club say they are now calling the North Stand diaspora about shoving them into the mop cupboard relocating them;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1805556552503329166 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1805556552503329166)
How do they choose what order they call people in .
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My North Stand renewal has been paid for and acknowledged as the same seats. Surely this isn't another round of relocations?
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If your surname starts with "Z", you're watching the game from Aston Park.
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My North Stand renewal has been paid for and acknowledged as the same seats. Surely this isn't another round of relocations?
It’s for the people who were “relocated” as part of the GA+ The Cells seat grab.
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My North Stand renewal has been paid for and acknowledged as the same seats. Surely this isn't another round of relocations?
Some NSseats have been moved due to reconfiguration of the gangways, so tho you may still have same seat number itsybe a different seat position.
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Will the overall ground capacity change next season with all the changes?
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Apparently yes but I’m unsure on the total number, was it supposed to be 44,500?
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42,900.
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42,900.
Was the approx 44k a figment of my imagination then or is that the goal after next season?
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42,900.
It’s not changed much then
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42,900.
Was the approx 44k a figment of my imagination then or is that the goal after next season?
After next season.
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42,900.
Was the approx 44k a figment of my imagination then or is that the goal after next season?
After next season.
Thanks
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Sorry if this has been covered, but does AVFC Membership (£40) guarantee you the opportunity to buy one ticket for EVERY home game? i.e there's a specific window for it between season-ticket holders and general sale? What if we get to the CL semi-final? Sorry, WHEN we get to it.
It's the main perk I assume, looking at the other meagre benefits. And I don't drink coffee.
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42,900.
Is that figure posted or published anywhere by the club, please, Ads?
Asking for a competition minded friend 😃
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I believe it was mentioned by Heck in an interview.
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Sorry if this has been covered, but does AVFC Membership (£40) guarantee you the opportunity to buy one ticket for EVERY home game? i.e there's a specific window for it between season-ticket holders and general sale? What if we get to the CL semi-final? Sorry, WHEN we get to it.
It's the main perk I assume, looking at the other meagre benefits. And I don't drink coffee.
There's no guarantees at all, but yes you get a sale window before general sale. In the past you would almost certainly get a ticket to any home game with membership. I imagine you'll have to be a bit sharp off the mark for some games to get them this season.
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Sorry if this has been covered, but does AVFC Membership (£40) guarantee you the opportunity to buy one ticket for EVERY home game? i.e there's a specific window for it between season-ticket holders and general sale? What if we get to the CL semi-final? Sorry, WHEN we get to it.
No guarantee of tickets, but you get a priority window to buy tickets with the other 30,000 people who are also members.
Using Olympiacos as an example, thousands of people were trying to buy tickets during the membership window exactly at 5pm. The website crashed, a few lucky people managed to get tickets in that first 30 mins of trying, most people were getting white screens, maintenance holding pages, etc. Then by 6.30pm all the tickets were gone.
I can imagine you can double the demand for CL tickets.
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Matchday prices are out;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/)
£55-78 for Cat A.
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Matchday prices are out;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/)
£55-78 for Cat A.
Jaysus !
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What are the 1888 seats?
I mean, I know what they are, but what is the 1888 significance?
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First year of the Football League, with the Villa reference being that we invented it, presumably.
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First year of the Football League, with the Villa reference being that we invented it, presumably.
Sounds a bit tenuous. Oh well.
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So the strategy for increasing revenue seems to include, any ST not renewed, not being offered to waiting list, as those prices are only increasing 5%. So Heck wants more matchday ticket punters at 15% inc or GA plus ST.
Home matchday attendances will be very interesting this coming season, will we sell out for all ?
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If the CL games are £78 each, I can't see myself attending many. Some reward for 22 years of season tickets.
I mean I could afford them, but it's just not good value. I'm sure they'll find some Jonny come lately to flll my seat though.
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Do you think all four will be cat A? Or will pot 3/4 be B?
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They'll cat A as much as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if they stick Forest, Leicester and West Ham as cat A. And Brighton, Bournemoth, Brentford, Palace, Fulham, Saints and Ipswich are the cat B games.
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They informed the FAB that all the CL games will be priced the same, and that they won't be offering a bulk discount for buying all 4.
I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte. Will still sell out for Barcelona (and I'd pay it for just the one) but good luck getting people paying that kind of money to see us play Sturm Graz.
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They informed the FAB that all the CL games will be priced the same, and that they won't be offering a bulk discount for buying all 4.
I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte. Will still sell out for Barcelona (and I'd pay it for just the one) but good luck getting people paying that kind of money to see us play Sturm Graz.
…well a number of us have signed up to the CL cup scheme without possibility of refund. :o
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We just need to enjoy the Champions League whilst we can - we may not qualify for it again for many seasons.
This is the price of success, I mentioned to my Wife over the weekend the potential cost for the Champions league games, the look was enough to tell me that I will not be attending all 4 home games!
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We just need to enjoy the Champions League whilst we can - we may not qualify for it again for many seasons.
This is the price of success, I mentioned to my Wife over the weekend the potential cost for the Champions league games, the look was enough to tell me that I will not be attending all 4 home games!
I try as far as possible not to mention the cost of tickets with my wife.
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Ha, ha - unlucky.
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They informed the FAB that all the CL games will be priced the same, and that they won't be offering a bulk discount for buying all 4.
I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte. Will still sell out for Barcelona (and I'd pay it for just the one) but good luck getting people paying that kind of money to see us play Sturm Graz.
They will be CAT A, so £78 max. (£72 in the Holte).
Please note, tickets purchased for matches in 2024/25 will not include a refund option, as per our ticketing T&Cs.
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Yep, that could be awkward!
Our joint account only has bills and mortgage going from it, so the hideous cost of following the Villa is buried away in my own account.
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Yep, that could be awkward!
Our joint account only has bills and mortgage going from it, so the hideous cost of following the Villa is buried away in my own account.
It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Yep, that could be awkward!
Our joint account only has bills and mortgage going from it, so the hideous cost of following the Villa is buried away in my own account.
The money is resting in your account.
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A good long rest!
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Don't tell her, and wait for her to notice once it's done.
Works for me.
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Don't tell her, and wait for her to notice once it's done.
Works for me.
…we still talking about banking? ::)
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It is difficult not to mention the cost when we have a joint bank account!
Don't tell her, and wait for her to notice once it's done.
Works for me.
…we still talking about banking? ::)
More chance of getting away with the purchase than the other these days.
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Good luck filling the ground at £78 a pop when Sturm Graz and Sheriff Tiraspol roll into town.
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Good luck filling the ground at £78 a pop when Sturm Graz and Sheriff Tiraspol roll into town.
It's the Champions League. They'll sell out.
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Good luck filling the ground at £78 a pop when Sturm Graz and Sheriff Tiraspol roll into town.
Sheriff Tiraspol. What a great name for a football club.
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I think Sheriff is basically an oligarch and everything in Transnistria is called Sheriff this, that or the other.
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Good luck filling the ground at £78 a pop when Sturm Graz and Sheriff Tiraspol roll into town.
Sheriff Tiraspol. What a great name for a football club.
And yes, they have a rusty sheriff's badge.
(https://i.ibb.co/bLptYZB/fcsheriff-tiraspol-logo-color.png)
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I think Sheriff is basically an oligarch and everything in Transnistria is called Sheriff this, that or the other.
Is that the UEFA Cat A, state of the art stadium that services about 300 fans?
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Has a 4* rating and 12,000 capacity approx, according to Wiki. We won't be playing there anyway, UEFA make them play home games in Chisinau since the Ukrainian unpleasantness. Oh, and because they didn't win the league so I shouldn't really have included them in my search for examples of "unglamorous potential opponents". Still, we've all had a nice time and that's what matters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff_Arena
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We've all learned something, that's what I take away.
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They informed the FAB that all the CL games will be priced the same, and that they won't be offering a bulk discount for buying all 4.
I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte. Will still sell out for Barcelona (and I'd pay it for just the one) but good luck getting people paying that kind of money to see us play Sturm Graz.
Likely I will pick and choose the glamour games , if it’s this price. Taking the calculated risk that i won’t qualify for tickets for the final.
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What are the 1888 seats?
A hell of a lot more than £18.88.
Scandalous pricing throughout. Bastards.
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Matchday prices are out;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/)
£55-78 for Cat A.
The takeaways for me:
This game is getting expensive.
The season cards are excellent value compared to match-by-match entry prices. The season card where I am (centre of Lower Holte) is roughly equal to eleven Cat A games. Not that I know there are eleven Cat A games, but if so that's eight games free.
Because the season cards are such good value compared to buying match-by-match, I can see the club either phasing out season cards (i.e, when people don't renew they aren't replaced by people on the waiting list), or they'll jump massively in value over the coming seasons.
I wonder how long I'll be able to afford to keep going.
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I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte.
They will be CAT A, so £78 max. (£72 in the Holte).
Not a chance the CL games will be standard Category A pricing.
They will probably be an extra £20 more than a Cat A game - ie: £70-100.
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I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte.
They will be CAT A, so £78 max. (£72 in the Holte).
Not a chance the CL games will be standard Category A pricing.
They will probably be an extra £20 more than a Cat A game - ie: £70-100.
Maybe for the team we draw out of Pot 1 (other than Leipzig).
Other than that if they offer a 4 game package it might be cheaper but why would they as these games will sell for the novelty and FOMO effect.
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
No I agree the club don't care. But there is a limit to what fans take before we start kicking off I'd hope. Liverpool did, not sure it helped though.
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
Speak for yourself, I'm a 5 digit number....
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The test will be if things go to shit on the pitch. They can get away with it right now as we're on the up, hopefully it stays that way but £70+ to watch us play West Ham after a few seasons of 10th or lower will be a tough sell.
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I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte.
They will be CAT A, so £78 max. (£72 in the Holte).
Not a chance the CL games will be standard Category A pricing.
They will probably be an extra £20 more than a Cat A game - ie: £70-100.
Maybe for the team we draw out of Pot 1 (other than Leipzig).
Other than that if they offer a 4 game package it might be cheaper but why would they as these games will sell for the novelty and FOMO effect.
They will be league prices.
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How do our CL prices compare with other clubs and Newcastle last season?
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The test will be if things go to shit on the pitch. They can get away with it right now as we're on the up, hopefully it stays that way but £70+ to watch us play West Ham after a few seasons of 10th or lower will be a tough sell.
Yeah your Jeremy's from Bicester and Piers's from Chippenham won't be so keen on the drive up then .
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How do our CL prices compare with other clubs and Newcastle last season?
Between £30 and £55 at Newcastle....
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I have a feeling that the CL games will all be close to 100 quid for the Holte.
They will be CAT A, so £78 max. (£72 in the Holte).
Not a chance the CL games will be standard Category A pricing.
They will probably be an extra £20 more than a Cat A game - ie: £70-100.
Maybe for the team we draw out of Pot 1 (other than Leipzig).
Other than that if they offer a 4 game package it might be cheaper but why would they as these games will sell for the novelty and FOMO effect.
They will be league prices.
Fair then i suppose that they aren't increasing them for the CL games.
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I'm a four digit number-so there!
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I am not a number, I am a free man! >:(
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Hospitality packages released:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/01/2024-25-hospitality-seasonal-packages-on-sale/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/01/2024-25-hospitality-seasonal-packages-on-sale/)
Gaslamp & Corner Flag - £3.5k
150 - £8k
Oak Room - £14k
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Gaslamp has doubled in price .
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Hospitality packages released:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/01/2024-25-hospitality-seasonal-packages-on-sale/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/01/2024-25-hospitality-seasonal-packages-on-sale/)
Gaslamp & Corner Flag - £3.5k
150 - £8k
Oak Room - £14k
Plus VAT
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£3500 to watch games behind 24mm of glass. No thanks .
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I doubt they are aimed at you
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
Fair play. 100% agree.
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
I've been a ST holder so long (1968) that I've only got five digits!
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The perfect protest against ticket prices would be at the first Champions League home game. Either everyone down on the concourse or turn our backs on the pitch when the anthem plays. We are never any good at organising a decent protest though and the 1897 don’t want to do anything that impacts there relationship with the club.
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The atmosphere will continue to be diluted out of B6 as the new generation of uber fan grows. All these GA+ and corporate areas won't end well.
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
If you're going non-league do it properly. Step 5 should be the absolute maximum.
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The perfect protest against ticket prices would be at the first Champions League home game. Either everyone down on the concourse or turn our backs on the pitch when the anthem plays. We are never any good at organising a decent protest though and the 1897 don’t want to do anything that impacts there relationship with the club.
World class managers, higher calibre of footballer and Champions League Football go hand in hand with a ticket increase. If the PSR ruling was eased and our owners could bankroll expenditure for longer than I'm sure tickets would of stayed at the lower end of the pricing table. Personally I'm fine with those prices.
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The atmosphere will continue to be diluted out of B6 as the new generation of uber fan grows. All these GA+ and corporate areas won't end well.
Hard to make any noise behind 24mm of glass.
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The atmosphere will continue to be diluted out of B6 as the new generation of uber fan grows. All these GA+ and corporate areas won't end well.
Hard to make any noise behind 24mm of glass.
Hardly any behind glass areas left.
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Based on the new ticket pricing it will be interesting to see how many games are sold out next season.
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It’s going to be spicy in GTC!
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(https://i.ibb.co/ykKhTRJ/thumbnail-IMG-9551.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ykKhTRJ)
Old standing season ticket application form found amongst my old programmes. Oh for the days!
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The atmosphere will continue to be diluted out of B6 as the new generation of uber fan grows. All these GA+ and corporate areas won't end well.
Hard to make any noise behind 24mm of glass.
Hardly any behind glass areas left.
Gas Lamp Boxes - "A behind-goal and behind-glass box in the North Stand offering a relaxed matchday experience with informal setup and dining for 12 guests."
Looking at the images the Gas Lamp Lounge (now called Gas Lamp Premium) also remains behind glass
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(https://i.ibb.co/ykKhTRJ/thumbnail-IMG-9551.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ykKhTRJ)
Old standing season ticket application form found amongst my old programmes. Oh for the days!
These days they'd charge you an extra £25 if you wanted a physical form.
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That final sentence would cause Heck et al to meltdown ;D
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Just phoned the ticket office (2nd in the queue) - asked the question about when I would be contacted about payment for the plastic season ticket card - I was told that they will be contacting season ticket holders from end of July to beginning of August.
If you have requested one and don't receive a phone call to contact the ticket sales email address.
Guy I spoke to was very polite and helpful.
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Just phoned the ticket office (2nd in the queue) - asked the question about when I would be contacted about payment for the plastic season ticket card - I was told that they will be contacting season ticket holders from end of July to beginning of August.
If you have requested one and don't receive a phone call to contact the ticket sales email address.
Guy I spoke to was very polite and helpful.
Discretionary £20 fee i believe. I've requested one.
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A discretionary fee? I doubt that.
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You have to use your discretion to decide if you want to pay £20 for one....
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You have to use your discretion to decide if you want to pay £20 for one....
And then it gets quietly delivered in a brown paper bag, just to annoy spelling buffs.
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That's what they told me when I rang up the other week . Anyway what's £20 in the grand scheme of things.
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A discretionary fee? I doubt that.
I imagine the discretion is the distinction between needing one for medical reasons, for instance, or that you’re just a belt and braces sort who doesn’t trust themselves with the technology.
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ta, its here if anyone else wants it https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
£20 though, as if they haven't had enough from me.
Thanks had to scroll back for this.
Have applied for my 5yo. Put in the comments box she (or I) doesn’t have a spare £20.
As an adduce, a bit miffed her cub member sister gets a birthday card but as a ST holder she didn’t, they can’t even tell me to add on a cubs-lite package as there isn’t like there is claret lite for adults. A teeny tiny gesture but a cheap win for them.
Have flagged it to supporter liaison.
I’m also asking again about the existence of the -essential to us - fun zone next season, bored of the hopefully we have more details soon…).
Perhaps the club can send her a new smarty phone in lieu of the birthday card for as a belated birthday gift, all sorted.
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ta, its here if anyone else wants it https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
£20 though, as if they haven't had enough from me.
Thanks had to scroll back for this.
Have applied for my 5yo. Put in the comments box she (or I) doesn’t have a spare £20.
As an adduce, a bit miffed her cub member sister gets a birthday card but as a ST holder she didn’t, they can’t even tell me to add on a cubs-lite package as there isn’t like there is claret lite for adults. A teeny tiny gesture but a cheap win for them.
Have flagged it to supporter liaison.
I’m also asking again about the existence of the -essential to us - fun zone next season, bored of the hopefully we have more details soon…).
Perhaps the club can send her a new smarty phone in lieu of the birthday card for as a belated birthday gift, all sorted.
Same thing for STHs. My son is 15 but we have always paid an adult price as it is in the middle of the Witton Upper. Means they forget to send him the Junior Villan ST welcome pack every season. Funnily enough, I discussed it with Lee Preece today and he asked me to remind him nearer the time IF Villa offer anything this season...
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How do our CL prices compare with other clubs and Newcastle last season?
Between £30 and £55 at Newcastle....
Fair play to them. Considering they were in a group with Dortmund, PSG and Milan that was a bargain and they had a memorable win v PSG.
We'll sell out all the CL games. Not sure about some of the league games that follow around that period though as suddenly Brentford at home on a cold December midweek night won't look so appetizing.
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That's what they told me when I rang up the other week . Anyway what's £20 in the grand scheme of things.
Give it to me then.
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How do our CL prices compare with other clubs and Newcastle last season?
Between £30 and £55 at Newcastle....
Fair play to them. Considering they were in a group with Dortmund, PSG and Milan that was a bargain and they had a memorable win v PSG.
We'll sell out all the CL games. Not sure about some of the league games that follow around that period though as suddenly Brentford at home on a cold December midweek night won't look so appetizing.
Brentford won't be a category A game.
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That's what they told me when I rang up the other week . Anyway what's £20 in the grand scheme of things.
Give it to me then.
Ha, I've paid my subs (ask Martin) . And I did used to give you money regularly when you had the physical copies of H&V.
I like my physical copies -
Villa ST
CD's
Vinyl
Paper H&V's , still got them all with my programmes.
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Don’t ticket prices tend to be cheaper in the North?
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How do our CL prices compare with other clubs and Newcastle last season?
Between £30 and £55 at Newcastle....
Fair play to them. Considering they were in a group with Dortmund, PSG and Milan that was a bargain and they had a memorable win v PSG.
We'll sell out all the CL games. Not sure about some of the league games that follow around that period though as suddenly Brentford at home on a cold December midweek night won't look so appetizing.
Brentford won't be a category A game.
It's more it's midweek, we have Southampton at home the following Saturday and I assume they'll be a CL game around that time so think they'll be plenty of £44.50 tickets floating around in the days up to the game.
Brentford might only take the lower Witton aswell.
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
If you're going non-league do it properly. Step 5 should be the absolute maximum.
Step 5?
Are Nuneaton Griff around that level?
I watched one of their games last season against a black country Wolves side....80 in attendance and the and pitch made any quality play almost impossible. Cheap lager mind
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MFL One - step 6.
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How many league games wont be Category A next season? What's the cheapest match-day ticket you could pay at VP in 24/25?
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How many league games wont be Category A next season? What's the cheapest match-day ticket you could pay at VP in 24/25?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/
Cheapest adult ticket (with no discount entitlement) for a Cat B is £44-50
I haven't seen a split of Cat A/B.
Could that be flexible as the season progresses depending on how Villa and the opponents are doing in the league ?
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
I've been a ST holder so long (1968) that I've only got five digits!
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How many league games wont be Category A next season? What's the cheapest match-day ticket you could pay at VP in 24/25?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/
Cheapest adult ticket (with no discount entitlement) for a Cat B is £44-50
I haven't seen a split of Cat A/B.
Could that be flexible as the season progresses depending on how Villa and the opponents are doing in the league ?
Isn't it usually the entitled six, the 'derbies' - Wolves, Leicester, and for no other reason than they're owned by a disgusting regime and therefore destined for greatness, Newcastle?
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Ta Redsox. And yes, you're probably right, there would be commercial logic/greed to that.
I don't see how any of us in the season-ticket queue will ever get one!
The club have no incentive to "subsidise" more of them when on a match to match, they'll make a far better margin. Only risk is our form nose-diving. But we're managed by a God (McGrath's brother?) so I can't see that happening, not next season anyway.
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I wonder if we will start to see any protests at the prices they're trying to inflict on us.
It really doesn't matter how successful we become on the pitch if regular fans can no longer afford to go.
They don't care about them . They just want bums on seats who will pay the going rate . You/we are merely a 6 digit number on the system
I've been a ST holder so long (1968) that I've only got five digits!
my numbers only four digits there again I’ve been a season ticket holder since the fifties
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
If you're going non-league do it properly. Step 5 should be the absolute maximum.
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Non League for me next season.......i'm attending a min 6 games with a 3pm kick off on a Saturday and i'm going to drink shit lager for no more than 4.50 a pint......like the good old days down the Villa.
I just need to pick a team to follow now, Nuneaton are no more....suppose it will be Tamworth or the Moors. If i ever attend VP again i'll be lucky, my match ticket cap is 50 quid tops.
The whole Premier league circus has gone yampy
If you're going non-league do it properly. Step 5 should be the absolute maximum.
Go to Hednesford town there a club that’s going places ,fast!!
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Are you okay Neal and Winton? :P
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How many league games wont be Category A next season? What's the cheapest match-day ticket you could pay at VP in 24/25?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/30/ticketing-details-for-2024-25/
Cheapest adult ticket (with no discount entitlement) for a Cat B is £44-50
I haven't seen a split of Cat A/B.
Could that be flexible as the season progresses depending on how Villa and the opponents are doing in the league ?
Isn't it usually the entitled six, the 'derbies' - Wolves, Leicester, and for no other reason than they're owned by a disgusting regime and therefore destined for greatness, Newcastle?
Newcastle was actually a Cat B game in 22/23. Only got bumped up last season.
It will pretty much be everyone who finished top half + Wolves and then everyone else will be Cat B.
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Everything about the pricing approach for this season, from the highest corporate level to the lowest ST and match by match tickets stinks and I think will be disastrous in the long-run. It seems the club have unilaterally decided that 40k is the maximum number of tickets we want to sell, and so will absolutely squeeze the nuts out of that with no regard for what happens 10 years down the line when we may not be doing as well as we are now.
The biggest clubs without exception are the ones who attract the biggest crowds - regardless of changes in how people consume football, that is one thing that will never change. Just at the point when we have the opportunity to join that band of clubs we are limiting ourselves by keeping the capacity low whilst simultaneously making it virtually impossible for anyone but the richest to afford tickets.
Last season we were able to go to almost every game - me on my ST, my wife and daughter using their memberships to get tickets for each match. I was trying to work out yesterday what that will mean next season, and due to the new prices the cheapest possible option that everything would work out for us next season on match tickets alone is just shy of £3k (which is around £1k more than last season) - in reality it will probably be considerably more than that as no doubt the Cat4 tickets will be massively in demand from now on.
Now we are generally fortunate in that we are both working and have a decent wage, but the increase means that next season we will be picking and choosing from now on. So we have a situation in which 2 potential ST holders will stop going to every match, and in my daughter's case you will probably lose her as a regular forever once she reaches the point of job/university in the next few years.
I've said this before, but we seem to be incentivising Heck and his team to milk the support for everything they can now with no regard for 5 years time. Long-term the club will lose the potential regular support like us, the backbone of individuals and companies who have supported the corporate sections for years and, to be honest, the people coming into these new sections that are being created when they realise the state of some of the areas they will be watching games from. I can't see many of them being ecstatic to find they're paying £4 or £5k a season to watch matches from the North Stand lower or in a standing section in the Holte?
Sorry for the long post, but it's the one thing the club are getting absolutely wrong on every level at the moment, and it just happens to be the single most important thing about the game.
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I agree the club has got the pricing structure for games wrong - IF by the end of this season, we are not challenging for a European spot, then we will see how many of the "day trippers" want to watch Villa the following season and are prepared to pay the £70 + per game and how quickly the corporate sections sell out.
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That ain't a long post, Pat. That's a brilliant post that highlights perfectly why the club's thinking seems to be so short-term.
I only hope that my suspicions that the North Stand rebuild has been merely delayed (based on what was implied in Heck's video last December) while they bolster the revenue earning options elsewhere in the ground. It is a risky strategy that could all unravel if they team cannot keep up the level of performance on the pitch.
Matchday prices are ridiculous, btw. I wonder how they compare with elsewhere?
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Everything about the pricing approach for this season, from the highest corporate level to the lowest ST and match by match tickets stinks and I think will be disastrous in the long-run. It seems the club have unilaterally decided that 40k is the maximum number of tickets we want to sell, and so will absolutely squeeze the nuts out of that with no regard for what happens 10 years down the line when we may not be doing as well as we are now.
The biggest clubs without exception are the ones who attract the biggest crowds - regardless of changes in how people consume football, that is one thing that will never change. Just at the point when we have the opportunity to join that band of clubs we are limiting ourselves by keeping the capacity low whilst simultaneously making it virtually impossible for anyone but the richest to afford tickets.
Last season we were able to go to almost every game - me on my ST, my wife and daughter using their memberships to get tickets for each match. I was trying to work out yesterday what that will mean next season, and due to the new prices the cheapest possible option that everything would work out for us next season on match tickets alone is just shy of £3k (which is around £1k more than last season) - in reality it will probably be considerably more than that as no doubt the Cat4 tickets will be massively in demand from now on.
Now we are generally fortunate in that we are both working and have a decent wage, but the increase means that next season we will be picking and choosing from now on. So we have a situation in which 2 potential ST holders will stop going to every match, and in my daughter's case you will probably lose her as a regular forever once she reaches the point of job/university in the next few years.
I've said this before, but we seem to be incentivising Heck and his team to milk the support for everything they can now with no regard for 5 years time. Long-term the club will lose the potential regular support like us, the backbone of individuals and companies who have supported the corporate sections for years and, to be honest, the people coming into these new sections that are being created when they realise the state of some of the areas they will be watching games from. I can't see many of them being ecstatic to find they're paying £4 or £5k a season to watch matches from the North Stand lower or in a standing section in the Holte?
Sorry for the long post, but it's the one thing the club are getting absolutely wrong on every level at the moment, and it just happens to be the single most important thing about the game.
100% agree with every single word. Especially the bit and bold. I am frustrated by how obvious this is and how muted the reaction has been. Heck is in real time ballsing up our best chance of being that club we always knew we could be.
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I’m in no way trying to belittle Pats excellent post (which I tend to agree with incidentally) but when the clubs stated aim is to go all out to maximise revenue and get us to £400m revenue by the end of 26/27 (?) then I’m afraid short term matchday income generation will be prioritised over thinking about longer term supporter engagement and building out a wider regular match going fan base. I don’t like it but I understand why they’re doing it. As Pat and others have pointed out, what happens if we throw in a season in that period finishing 9th with little or minimal cup involvement. The ability to sell tickets at all price points becomes a much harder sell.
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The thing is, I think we're the only ones in the equation who are thinking about finishing mid-table in the foreseeable future...
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The thing is, I think we're the only ones in the equation who are thinking about finishing mid-table in the foreseeable future...
But it could happen. As Ads has pointed out on here before, we tend to look at these things in a very limited lens, we’ve got about 8 or 9 other clubs 6 of whom already have that financial advantage who are trying to do exactly what we are as well so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility we may have one of those seasons where we end up being “there or thereabouts”.
Sorry if that comes across as arguing a point you maybe didn’t mean reading your reply back.😂
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We need a manager who is better than the other top six/seven clubs to stay in the mix as we don't attract the top, top players. If Unai leaves or just fails to get the same hit tune out of his squad, (didn't some ex-player say they got burnt out by the intensity of playing for him? Not Pauella, obvs), we could easily tumble back to being part of the 7/11 (th) club.
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I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I just think we are now owned and run by ambitious people with confidence in their own abilities and they're not sat there thinking this is a flash in the pan.
Every season we have been progressing, and the more you progress the more you attract top people who help you progress even more.
If Emery went next season, we wouldn't automatically be dropping back to the Smiths and the Gerrards. And one poor season wouldn't undo all of the good commercial, branding, and profile work that has been done either.
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In the last 90 years we've only once put together consecutive top 5 finishes. Us having a bit of a doubt isn't really a shock.
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Yep, don't get me wrong, my brain literally cannot accept we might have a third successful season in a row... same as I couldn't believe we could win the Conference League last season and why I bet on Spurs getting top 4 last year.
My hope for this season is top six finish and a third consecutive year of european football, and to get to the knockout stage in the Champions League.
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...although Emery has achieved at least a 3 place improvement on league position in both of his seasons... :P
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Yep, don't get me wrong, my brain literally cannot accept we might have a third successful season in a row... same as I couldn't believe we could win the Conference League last season and why I bet on Spurs getting top 4 last year.
My hope for this season is top six finish and a third consecutive year of european football, and to get to the knockout stage in the Champions League.
I'd view that as a successful season all things considered.
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I've had two missed calls this afternoon trying to flog me hospitality tickets...
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Also worth considering that of last years Champions League qualifiers only Arsenal and Man City 'retained' the places. We have the most expensive tickets outside of London- this simply won't be sustainable unless the on pitch product remains at the same level.
Interesting that they've now stopped allowing you to return match tickets- it may mean a couple of games actually sell out this year.
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Also worth considering that of last years Champions League qualifiers only Arsenal and Man City 'retained' the places. We have the most expensive tickets outside of London- this simply won't be sustainable unless the on pitch product remains at the same level.
Interesting that they've now stopped allowing you to return match tickets- it may mean a couple of games actually sell out this year.
They've stopped the ticket return and resale option?
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Heck will be gone , bonuses banked , when this pricing strategy starts to unravel. He don't care.
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Also worth considering that of last years Champions League qualifiers only Arsenal and Man City 'retained' the places. We have the most expensive tickets outside of London- this simply won't be sustainable unless the on pitch product remains at the same level.
Interesting that they've now stopped allowing you to return match tickets- it may mean a couple of games actually sell out this year.
They've stopped the ticket return and resale option?
Villa haven't.
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Just had another look at the GA+ range and it seems virtually no season tickets have been sold in the trinity and doug ellis upper.
It's going to be very interesting to see if we sell out every game at those match-day prices.
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Just had another look at the GA+ range and it seems virtually no season tickets have been sold in the trinity and doug ellis upper.
It's going to be very interesting to see if we sell out every game at those match-day prices.
If we are challenging top 4 i think its ok, anything falling off down below 6/7th and i think for games like Palace / Ipswich / Brentford its going to be a tough sell. Its an expensive day out now with a couple of kids in tow.
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Has anyone had problems with adding their season ticket to the Apple wallet.
I keep getting the message “this pass cannot be added to your wallet”
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I think the owners might sell in 2-3 years time so the obscene prices will be someone else's problems to solve.
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I think the owners might sell in 2-3 years time so the obscene prices will be someone else's problems to solve.
Realistic. And Scary.
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Has anyone had problems with adding their season ticket to the Apple wallet.
I keep getting the message “this pass cannot be added to your wallet”
I don't even have a ticket to add to my wallet. How do you do it? I'm on Samsung not Apple.
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I think the owners might sell in 2-3 years time so the obscene prices will be someone else's problems to solve.
Utter nonsense.
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Has anyone had problems with adding their season ticket to the Apple wallet.
I keep getting the message “this pass cannot be added to your wallet”
I don't even have a ticket to add to my wallet. How do you do it? I'm on Samsung not Apple.
nothing has been issued yet as far as i know.
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Thanks. Broadlee's post confused me. I will give it a while yet before harassing Villa Support on Twitter, then.
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I think the owners might sell in 2-3 years time so the obscene prices will be someone else's problems to solve.
Realistic. And Scary.
Christ, Tim, what nonsense.
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I think the owners might sell in 2-3 years time so the obscene prices will be someone else's problems to solve.
Realistic. And Scary.
Christ, Tim, what nonsense.
Why ? They are here to build it up and sell for max profit at the sweetspot . That might be in 2-3 years . Or it might not.
They aren't Villa fans they are here to turn a profit .
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Thanks. Broadlee's post confused me. I will give it a while yet before harassing Villa Support on Twitter, then.
I was part of the A2 Brigada being relocated today and she told me the link to download your ticket to your wallet won’t be out until late July/early Aug.
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Thanks. Panic over, then.🙂
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Physical card applicants are being contacted late July / early Aug also.
As you were .
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Anyone successfully managed to obtain a physical card without paying the twenty quid? Would just saying "I don't have a smartphone" be sufficient?
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Anyone successfully managed to obtain a physical card without paying the twenty quid? Would just saying "I don't have a smartphone" be sufficient?
Fill out the form. Await the call.
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Has anyone had problems with adding their season ticket to the Apple wallet.
I keep getting the message “this pass cannot be added to your wallet”
I don't even have a ticket to add to my wallet. How do you do it? I'm on Samsung not Apple.
Download 'Google Wallet' bruv.
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Anyone successfully managed to obtain a physical card without paying the twenty quid? Would just saying "I don't have a smartphone" be sufficient?
Fill out the form. Await the call.
But he can't wait for a call as he doesn't have a mobile phone
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Anyone successfully managed to obtain a physical card without paying the twenty quid? Would just saying "I don't have a smartphone" be sufficient?
Fill out the form. Await the call.
But he can't wait for a call as he doesn't have a mobile phone
I'm sat here waiting for the pigeon to turn up with my season ticket.
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Any of our fans that go to all the home and away games (including European games) next season, are going to need very deep pockets.
Fair play to anyone that does this.
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I'm sat here waiting for the pigeon to turn up with my season ticket.
Speckled Heck?
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Any of our fans that go to all the home and away games (including European games) next season, are going to need very deep pockets.
Fair play to anyone that does this.
It's very hard to justify the costs now.
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Far better if we were a moderate Premiership team with low aspirations that anyone with nothing to do on a Saturday could just turn up to watch for a few quid.
😜😜😜
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Financial wise it doesn't concern me although not rich by any means, but even I am thinking I could watch it on TV without the hassle, possibly it may be a age thing.It seems to be gearing up for the younger generation to take my place, the one's I feel sorry for are those who will be lucky to attend once a season with family if that.
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Far better if we were a moderate Premiership team with low aspirations that anyone with nothing to do on a Saturday could just turn up to watch for a few quid.
😜😜😜
or just price in line with other Prem disruptor clubs like Newcastle United. More moderate prices rather than rip the arse out of the customer base.
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Financial wise it doesn't concern me although not rich by any means, but even I am thinking I could watch it on TV without the hassle, possibly it may be a age thing.It seems to be gearing up for the younger generation to take my place, the one's I feel sorry for are those who will be lucky to attend once a season with family if that.
I enjoy watching the away games on TV without all the cost and time and hassle of going.
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
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Just had another look at the GA+ range and it seems virtually no season tickets have been sold in the trinity and doug ellis upper.
It's going to be very interesting to see if we sell out every game at those match-day prices.
£2,700 to sit in those seats. So for a typical couple, or parent and son/daughter, £5,400. Bonkers.
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The North lower corner flag GA+ (what are these Cat C seats ? certainly not the best) work out at £185 a game ! you do get 2 drinks a programme and a lanyard though ;D
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The North lower corner flag GA+ (what are these Cat C seats ? certainly not the best) work out at £185 a game ! you do get 2 drinks a programme and a lanyard though ;D
what are the 2 drinks , bottles of Dom Perignon
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The North lower corner flag GA+ (what are these Cat C seats ? certainly not the best) work out at £185 a game ! you do get 2 drinks a programme and a lanyard though ;D
what are the 2 drinks , bottles of Dom Perignon
Bonnet De Douche Rodders
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I think it's based on your fan ID. So if they download the Villa App on their phones and login with their fan ID, then they will be able to access their ticket.
I always buy my mate's away tickets, but he can get them on his phone because they're on his fan ID.
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Where is this form online ? (requesting a plastic season card) ??
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I hope they're gonna do all the grass-cutting and hoovering for the next year in return.
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I think it's based on your fan ID. So if they download the Villa App on their phones and login with their fan ID, then they will be able to access their ticket.
I always buy my mate's away tickets, but he can get them on his phone because they're on his fan ID.
Are you only allowed one download though like on some tickets
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I think it's based on your fan ID. So if they download the Villa App on their phones and login with their fan ID, then they will be able to access their ticket.
I always buy my mate's away tickets, but he can get them on his phone because they're on his fan ID.
Are you only allowed one download though like on some tickets
I'm not sure, but if you only download yours and they theirs, it should be fine.
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Do the e-tickets have the encrypted barcodes now
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Where is this form online ? (requesting a plastic season card) ??
ta, its here if anyone else wants it https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
£20 though, as if they haven't had enough from me.
Thanks had to scroll back for this.
Have applied for my 5yo. Put in the comments box she (or I) doesn’t have a spare £20.
As an aside, a bit miffed her cub member sister gets a birthday card but as a ST holder she didn’t, they can’t even tell me to add on a cubs-lite package as there isn’t like there is claret lite for adults. A teeny tiny gesture but a cheap win for them.
Have flagged it to supporter liaison.
I’m also asking again about the existence of the -essential to us - fun zone next season, bored of the hopefully we have more details soon…).
Perhaps the club can send her a new smarty phone in lieu of the birthday card for as a belated birthday gift, all sorted.
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Far better if we were a moderate Premiership team with low aspirations that anyone with nothing to do on a Saturday could just turn up to watch for a few quid.
😜😜😜
or just price in line with other Prem disruptor clubs like Newcastle United. More moderate prices rather than rip the arse out of the customer base.
We are not a disruptor club. We are a top 4 champions League club.
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I think it's based on your fan ID. So if they download the Villa App on their phones and login with their fan ID, then they will be able to access their ticket.
I always buy my mate's away tickets, but he can get them on his phone because they're on his fan ID.
Are you only allowed one download though like on some tickets
I'm not sure, but if you only download yours and they theirs, it should be fine.
I know of 2 people who shared one last season, unofficially obviously, but both were able to load it into their wallet via the link.
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Far better if we were a moderate Premiership team with low aspirations that anyone with nothing to do on a Saturday could just turn up to watch for a few quid.
😜😜😜
or just price in line with other Prem disruptor clubs like Newcastle United. More moderate prices rather than rip the arse out of the customer base.
We are not a disruptor club. We are a top 4 champions League club.
we've disrupted the Top4 have we not..
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Far better if we were a moderate Premiership team with low aspirations that anyone with nothing to do on a Saturday could just turn up to watch for a few quid.
😜😜😜
or just price in line with other Prem disruptor clubs like Newcastle United. More moderate prices rather than rip the arse out of the customer base.
We are not a disruptor club. We are a top 4 champions League club.
we've disrupted the Top4 have we not..
No we have restored the natural order of things.
Just one time go out on a limb and try to be positive about our club.
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ive renewed 3 season tickets for myself and 2 kids
i do all the paying for etc so the wallett downloads i presume will come through to me
can i transfer them to their phones or what is the system
I think it's based on your fan ID. So if they download the Villa App on their phones and login with their fan ID, then they will be able to access their ticket.
I always buy my mate's away tickets, but he can get them on his phone because they're on his fan ID.
Are you only allowed one download though like on some tickets
I'm not sure, but if you only download yours and they theirs, it should be fine.
I know of 2 people who shared one last season, unofficially obviously, but both were able to load it into their wallet via the link.
That would be ace
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Have only watched the last 10 minutes. This is making Southgate look like a forward thinking coach.
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Have only watched the last 10 minutes. This is making Southgate look like a forward thinking coach.
You've seen the best bit, jammy git.
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Jesus that’s the second time I’ve posted on the wrong thread in 24 hours. Bloody hell.
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If it makes you feel better, it was my highlight of the game.
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I think my stay up for the election last night has caught up with me.
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Has anyone got there downloaded season tickets yet?
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Has anyone got there downloaded season tickets yet?
No but I assumed it would be like the physical season tickets and only be sent out a couple of weeks before the season.
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Has anyone got there downloaded season tickets yet?
Late July/early August I was told by the TO
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Ok thanks chaps
Was only asking in case they had been sent and I was doing something wrong
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Has anyone got there downloaded season tickets yet?
Nothing at all . First V12 payment has been taken though .
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Interesting article about Arsenal and their season ticket / membership policies.
https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/arsenal-ban-20-000-members-131356561.html
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That’s 20,000 Arsenal members at £34 a season each banned. Touts probably setup multiple accounts to secure tickets in the ballots. They will be blocked, but get around it (probably).
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
That's how the season ticket already works.
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
That's how the season ticket already works.
Is it, haven’t got mine yet
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
That's how the season ticket already works.
Is it, haven’t got mine yet
Last year it worked like that. I watched it change in front of my eyes within the Villa app.
If you download it to a wallet, there is no barcode but I assume it works on a similar basis.
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
That's how the season ticket already works.
Because I get the son's season ticket, he's a adult I screenshot the European games and sent it to him and didn't have a problem,printed them off also just incase
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I didn't notice the wallet version of the Season Ticket changing or doing anything flash
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Seen as the club have not sold any GA+ seats in the last week. No uptake in the upper trinity or Doug. Minimal in upper Holte End , I wonder if those seats will make their way to GA people on the waiting list
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Seen as the club have not sold any GA+ seats in the last week. No uptake in the upper trinity or Doug. Minimal in upper Holte End , I wonder if those seats will make their way to GA people on the waiting list
I think the club have already confirmed they will be selling no additional season tickets this year.
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I got a couple of tickets for Stevie Nicks on Friday night and there is a ID scan which is active as you look at it (wurls around) and refreshes every minute
it says screenshots won’t work only this genuine ID thing
first time I’ve seen it, I wonder if that’s the way Villa are going with the season ticket thing m
It's an encrypted barcode that refreshes every 0.5 seconds. This is the future of tickets . Happened at The Sphere with U2.
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Still waiting to hear about a physical ST card. Why is it so fecking difficult
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Still waiting to hear about a physical ST card. Why is it so fecking difficult
Maybe your reputation precedes you.
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Still waiting to hear about a physical ST card. Why is it so fecking difficult
Maybe your reputation precedes you.
;D calm down Grandad
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Bloody hell.......us season ticket holders are getting a freebie
Please note, all season ticket holders now have a free subscription to VillaTV+ linked to their account.
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It would be great to see Stevie Nicks down the Villa.
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Genuine question. Will season cards be issued and are they additional cost?
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Not unless you specifically ask for them and yes, twenty quid.
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Genuine question. Will season cards be issued and are they additional cost?
Fill out the form. This will be assessed and then the club will be in touch late July / early Aug .
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Genuine question. Will season cards be issued and are they additional cost?
Fill out the form. This will be assessed and then the club will be in touch late July / early Aug .
What form? I just hit renew and entered credit card details.
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You need to ring them and tell them you want a plastic card. They then email you the form .
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You need to ring them and tell them you want a plastic card. They then email you the form .
Thanks VT
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You need to ring them and tell them you want a plastic card. They then email you the form .
I just used the link someone posted earlier in this thread - is that different to the emailed form?
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This is the link...
https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
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This is the link...
https://www.avfc.co.uk/seasontickets/card-request/
Thanks for the link. Not too happy with the tickbox agreeing to pay another £20 so I’m going to call and try to negotiate it away due to the assumption they are making about all being smartyphone savvy and being an ST holder for >40 years. Nothing to lose except half a day on hold.
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Looks like some lucky ones on the waiting list will get a chance to buy one this season;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/19/Update-on-Season-Ticket-waiting-list-/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/19/Update-on-Season-Ticket-waiting-list-/)
"A limited number of season tickets now remain and will be made available to fans on the waiting list to secure their seat at Villa Park for next term, with over 26,000 currently registered."
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So it's down to 26000 from a high of about 29000 a couple of years ago.
The waiting list has hardly moved as all the capacity has suddenly been placed in GA+.
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Looks like a few haven’t renewed for whatever reason. Good luck to those lucky souls high up on the waiting list who will be getting emails.
Be interested to know how many normal GA STs we have, it was capped at 30k when we got promoted and with the increase in GA+ it appears as though the number has reduced. I seem to recall someone saying earlier in the summer some club comms saying it was now 27k but not sure if I’ve misremembered that?
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So it's down to 26000 from a high of about 29000 a couple of years ago.
The waiting list has hardly moved as all the capacity has suddenly been placed in GA+.
i thought there were 33k+ on the list at one point
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10% or more have stopped renewing since the first season back. The club should be trying to find out why but most likely aren't overly fussed while they're being replaced.
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So it's down to 26000 from a high of about 29000 a couple of years ago.
The waiting list has hardly moved as all the capacity has suddenly been placed in GA+.
i thought there were 33k+ on the list at one point
I think he means the number of ST holders not the number in the waiting list.
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Indeed
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Slightly off topic. I saw a tweet from a Leeds fan. They’ve written to their “super away supporters” (80% attendance over a few years). Told em they’re not super anymore unless they buy an away season ticket for £850. Otherwise they lose their priority status.
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That’s a terrible thing to happen to such good people.
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Chance would be a fine thing
Slightly off topic. I saw a tweet from a Leeds fan. They’ve written to their “super away supporters” (80% attendance over a few years). Told em they’re not super anymore unless they buy an away season ticket for £850. Otherwise they lose their priority status.
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Indeed
Having just read the link, surely they're inferring that there are 26k+ on the waiting list?
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10% or more have stopped renewing since the first season back. The club should be trying to find out why but most likely aren't overly fussed while they're being replaced.
I expect unfortunately health will be a big reason. I expect ST holders from before the waiting lists will be of a higher median age. We haven't heard from Brian for awhile for example and HEITS thread will show double figure losses (in our small sample of fans) on here for that period, with quite a few being ST holders anyway.
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Indeed
Having just read the link, surely they're inferring that there are 26k+ on the waiting list?
I rang them this week and they said 38k currently on it and it was 36k last year.
I did see 26k figure but that wasn’t what they told me.
They said less than 1k had gone on sale to waiting list people this time.
Strange thing is it’s never difficult to buy tickets even before season ticket resales in my experience. A large number of season ticket holders leave the game early these days as well even when we were 1-0 up against Manchester City.
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Indeed
Having just read the link, surely they're inferring that there are 26k+ on the waiting list?
I rang them this week and they said 38k currently on it and it was 36k last year.
I did see 26k figure but that wasn’t what they told me.
They said less than 1k had gone on sale to waiting list people this time.
Strange thing is it’s never difficult to buy tickets even before season ticket resales in my experience. A large number of season ticket holders leave the game early these days as well even when we were 1-0 up against Manchester City.
Makes sense , the 33K figure was floated also not long ago
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
Too early .
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
Too early .
After you've filled the form in, do they ring you, or do I ring them ?
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
Too early .
After you've filled the form in, do they ring you, or do I ring them ?
They contact you apparently .
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
Too early .
After you've filled the form in, do they ring you, or do I ring them ?
They contact you apparently .
That’s what the T O person said to me when I called about it. Fill out the form. List the extenuating circumstances (no smart phone) and wait to be contacted to see if your application for hard copy ST is accepted.
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Has anyone received their physical season tickets yet or, is it too early yet?
Too early .
After you've filled the form in, do they ring you, or do I ring them ?
They contact you apparently .
That’s what the T O person said to me when I called about it. Fill out the form. List the extenuating circumstances (no smart phone) and wait to be contacted to see if your application for hard copy ST is accepted.
Yes exactly this , plus last 3 digits on the back of the card to pay the fee .
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Thanks for your answers. I’ll wait for them to contact me.
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Officially sold out… was there ever any doubt?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1817976632482615338 (https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1817976632482615338)
Apparently, we will get our welcome packs… later this year. :o
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I still haven't had mine uploaded to the app, despite others who bought at the same time being able to see theirs. Seems a bit haphazard.
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I'm waiting for a call about the plastic card
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I'm waiting for a call about the plastic card
Organ donor?
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I'm waiting for a call about the plastic card
Organ donor?
I think he means a physical season ticket for Yanited.
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Are we supposed to be able to add the ST to our apple (or Google) wallet, or haven't they been released yet?
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I’ve had nothing to say I should be able to…
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I thought the club said people would be notified via email in early August the details for adding their season ticket to Goggle wallet.
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I thought the club said people would be notified via email in early August the details for adding their season ticket to Goggle wallet.
ok, thanks.
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Just tried to phone the club about the plastic season ticket card - I was number 18 in the queue to be answered, I gave up.
I have also sent an email to the ticket office email address yesterday - it states that it may take up to 10 days for them to respond to my question!
The clubs SLA's are not very good!!
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If you have Twitter or whatever it’s called this week @AVFCSupport are generally pretty good for queries
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Just tried to phone the club about the plastic season ticket card - I was number 18 in the queue to be answered, I gave up.
I have also sent an email to the ticket office email address yesterday - it states that it may take up to 10 days for them to respond to my question!
The clubs SLA's are not very good!!
i got through yesterday , i was 20 in the queue and it took 20 mins waiting. they said the club will be calling / emailing fans who requested plastic end of this week / early next week .
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Just tried to phone the club about the plastic season ticket card - I was number 18 in the queue to be answered, I gave up.
I have also sent an email to the ticket office email address yesterday - it states that it may take up to 10 days for them to respond to my question!
The clubs SLA's are not very good!!
It always says 10 days, but it’s usually 24 hours, 48 hours tops.
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Have people received their season tickets on their phones now ?
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Have people received their season tickets on their phones now ?
I'm assuming we're going to get an email with a link within it.
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Just tried to phone the club about the plastic season ticket card - I was number 18 in the queue to be answered, I gave up.
I have also sent an email to the ticket office email address yesterday - it states that it may take up to 10 days for them to respond to my question!
The clubs SLA's are not very good!!
It always says 10 days, but it’s usually 24 hours, 48 hours tops.
KPIs being smashed on a regular basis, well done Villa Customer Care!
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Have people received their season tickets on their phones now ?
We havent yet
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Nor me.
In the past I think I’ve been able to print out a physical ticket from my ST part of the website, but the Arsenal game isn’t on there.
Any ideas how to do this without calling them up?
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If we are moving to encrypted digital tickets (lots of prem clubs are and LiveNation acts etc) it won't be possible
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Looks like you can by hitting ‘distribute ticket’ option next to the game you can’t make, but the Arsenal game isn’t listed.
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I have 3 season tickets I’m thinking off downloading them onto the wallets of some old spare phones we have kicking about so they can be interchanged if a different family member goes
I’m no techy so is this a viable option ?
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A couple of mates have had "tickets" added to their accounts with constantly updating QR codes, there is no reference to the season as in 24/25 or anything like that. Others of us who purchased at the same time have had nothing, very odd.
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Man Utd - season ticket holder, was telling me that his season ticket has been added to his "wallet on his phone" for each game there is a new code, and this code will only become live 3 hours before the game kicks off.
He also told me that he has to attend 16 of the 19 premier league home games, if he does not attend the games then the club will not allow him to re-new his season ticket.
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Anyone got an email address for the ticket office please?
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I think ST holders will find it a very frustrating experience this season trying to make use of their tix when they cant go, very frustrating. In any other business transaction I'd tell them to shove it and Ill go elsewhere.
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Have people received their season tickets on their phones now ?
We havent yet
I have mine ( I think) doesn’t state 24/25. Won’t let me add it to my iPhone wallet. But I believe the club are aware of this issue.
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Anyone got an email address for the ticket office please?
Don't bother as this is all you'll get, I got this from the avfc support on twitter 3 times and when I emailed them instead also mentioning that I wasn't happy with a clear copy and paste response I got the exact same response so they obviously don't read your email just see season ticket then send this response.
We can confirm that digital season tickets will not be available to download straight after purchase.
Supporters will receive a link to their digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet before the start of the new season.
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk email this like I have if we all do they might actually improve. Digital Tickets are meant to be faster get a train ticket and it's on your phone in minutes the speed Villa are working is completely unacceptable for the amount of money we've all paid.
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I won’t start worrying till the day before Arsenal.
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So, this isn’t season ticket but just generally.
I’ve downloaded my Arsenal ticket into my wallet, if I were unable to go could I forward the email onto someone else for them to download it and use, or does it only allow you to do it once?
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So, this isn’t season ticket but just generally.
I’ve downloaded my Arsenal ticket into my wallet, if I were unable to go could I forward the email onto someone else for them to download it and use, or does it only allow you to do it once?
I don’t think anyone knows as they haven’t said, but from other clubs, it appears that the technology is there and is being used that the code embedded in it changes all the time up to KO.
With the caveat that I don’t really understand technology. I fear change.
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My Wife and I both had emails refusing us a physical season ticket. No real explanation and not even the offer to pay the £20
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My Wife and I both had emails refusing us a physical season ticket. No real explanation and not even the offer to pay the £20
Same here. I’m going to kick up a fuss
We should all fight this.
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Interesting, I wonder if the reason for wanting a card weren’t deemed appropriate? I guess you’d probably have to convince them that you haven’t got a smart phone? 🤷♂️
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So, this isn’t season ticket but just generally.
I’ve downloaded my Arsenal ticket into my wallet, if I were unable to go could I forward the email onto someone else for them to download it and use, or does it only allow you to do it once?
My brother got an error message trying to download his ticket from a forwarded email saying it had already been downloaded to an android device. This has stumped us as none of our parry did download it as far as we can tell. The original recipient of the email has managed to download it and will pass the phone across, which is a bit of a palaver but not the end of the world.
A possible alternative is to use the share function from your wallet but I have never tried this so not sure if/how it works.
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Interesting, I wonder if the reason for wanting a card weren’t deemed appropriate? I guess you’d probably have to convince them that you haven’t got a smart phone? 🤷♂️
Well my reason was that I don’t have and don’t want a smart phone so if their answer is ‘ we don’t believe you’ then we are at a bit of an impasse
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Can’t they block sharing? Just had a look at my old season ticket on my iPhone, as well as my WHAM! ticket, and neither has the option to send it anywhere.
My Tesco Clubcard does, though. A clear win in my book.
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My Wife and I both had emails refusing us a physical season ticket. No real explanation and not even the offer to pay the £20
what reasons did you put on the form for needing a physical card ?
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I have just received an e mail saying that my request for a season card has been granted at no extra cost please note I don’t have a modern phone and I’m over eighty years old so don’t understand all the computer jargon like wallets etc
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I have just received an e mail saying that my request for a season card has been granted at no extra cost please note I don’t have a modern phone and I’m over eighty years old so don’t understand all the computer jargon like wallets etc
Good to hear!
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I’m not entirely sure if I’m being unreasonable here but I’m really pissed off about this, the constant fucking about with KO times, inept service in the ground, price rises and now, if you want to get in to access what you’ve paid a fortune for, you’ll have to do it on our terms, however inconvenient it might be
Greedy fuckers
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My mate has had his card request refused. I haven’t received a yes or a no yet.
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I’d suggest that when we get news of someone getting one on appeal, post the reason they put here so we can all copy it
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My reason is going to be "Everything to do with your website is an absolute car crash. I need about four different log ins, and hardly anything ever works properly first time. I don't trust your smartphone tickets to actually let me into the ground on the day in question, and if you don't give me a physical ticket I'm going to sue you through the small claims court. You twats."
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Yup happy with that, *copies and pastes*
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I’ve told them they are at risk of breaching contract law and are discriminating against me for being a Luddite
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My reason is going to be "Everything to do with your website is an absolute car crash. I need about four different log ins, and hardly anything ever works properly first time. I don't trust your smartphone tickets to actually let me into the ground on the day in question, and if you don't give me a physical ticket I'm going to sue you through the small claims court. You twats."
Problem is you’re talking to Sandra who works from home on just above minimum wage who doesn’t really give a shit as she doesn’t like football anyway and her dad supports WBA
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I've never liked Sandra.
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My mate has had his card request refused. I haven’t received a yes or a no yet.
It's a yes for me and a no for my son and no charge, they know I am loyal
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Can’t they block sharing? Just had a look at my old season ticket on my iPhone, as well as my WHAM! ticket, and neither has the option to send it anywhere.
My Tesco Clubcard does, though. A clear win in my book.
My Arsenal ticket has the functionality to share. When I click on it I get a message saying this can't be undone and whoever I share it with can forward it to anyone. Which seems a bit odd. Anyway, I don't want to share it so I go no further.
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I've received an email to say my request for a physical card (and presumably that of my son) have been declined. I travel from Bristol and he travels from London.
I made the point that if either of us is sat on a train that doesn't have phone charging - sometimes the case - then there is a risk of the battery being depleted. Plus I said I like the card as a physical momento of the season.
Sad as that might be, it is actually true and they would generally be very happy to sell a small bit of plastic for £20.
I imagine there will be occasions this season when one of us can't make a game and the (paid for) seat will not be used by a mate because of this - so less beer bought, etc. Plus, I've yet to receive my electronic card in Google Wallet.
I can't think of another 'customer experience' where you pay over £1,500 for two STs and this is how you are treated.
As a final moan - I am a Brummie after all, other than when I renewed our seats online, I have had no details about being switched to a 'rail seat'. Bit shit really. UTV
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You can still transfer your ticket to a friend when one of you can’t make it. They just need a client reference and you can ask the club to swap it for the game.
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You can still transfer your ticket to a friend when one of you can’t make it. They just need a client reference and you can ask the club to swap it for the game.
Usually done very quickly over the phone with the Ticket Office with minimum of fuss.
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My mate has had his card request refused. I haven’t received a yes or a no yet.
Is that the dead one?
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Not heard nothing yet. Club treating the fans with contempt is a new one ???
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You can still transfer your ticket to a friend when one of you can’t make it. They just need a client reference and you can ask the club to swap it for the game.
Usually done very quickly over the phone with the Ticket Office with minimum of fuss.
You ever phoned the ticket office ?
You need a free half day before you get through
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Aye, took me 40 mins to get through, for them to tell me they weren't going to send me a ticket I'd already paid for
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Are they saying you can't have one free, or won't let you have one even if you want to pay?
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Are they saying you can't have one free, or won't let you have one even if you want to pay?
Cant have one even if you are prepared to pay for it.
Thank you for taking the time to request a physical season card for the 24/25 season.
Having reviewed your request, unfortunately on this occasion we are unable to offer you a physical season card.
Mobile tickets will still be issued to all supporters, regardless of whether they have a physical card or not. Emails with mobile season ticket links will be sent out shortly.
Thank you for your ongoing support.
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Are they saying you can't have one free, or won't let you have one even if you want to pay?
Offered to pay £20 for a bit of plastic, but still a 'no'.
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Are they saying you can't have one free, or won't let you have one even if you want to pay?
Offered to pay £20 for a bit of plastic, but still a 'no'.
That’s very strange seeing as you had to tick a box to agree to a £20 charge.
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Me and several mates also had a no.
Absolute piss take
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I’m not sure they’ve got much of a leg to stand on. There’s nothing in the T&Cs I can see that says you have to have a digital ticket. If it was a physical ticket last year then they need to explain why it has to he a digital ticket this year, and why you can’t have a physical ticket despite there being the option for one.
My guess: they’ve bollocksed up the process and are running out of time to supply them all.
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From a customer point view, it's annoying. From a contractual point of view, they're fine. You're effectively a bailee in possession of the season ticket anyway, the club own title to it. The form you receive it in, is discretionary. If I'm the company and looking to digitise, I wouldn't be subverting my own policy en masse unless I really I had to (such as the elder gentleman). In fact they specifically state exceptional circumstances and "I prefer a plastic card" isn't going to qualify.
You've expressly agreed to a condition of the contract on purchase that it's digital too.
The club is basically doing what you agreed for them to do. That you didn't read the contract is why I can afford to go watch the club. Huzzah!
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I've heard nothing either way yet . I live in hope.
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I've received an email from the club accepting my request for a physical card. Also, no charge for it either.
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I have not yet received any email about my request for a physical card.
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From a customer point view, it's annoying. From a contractual point of view, they're fine. You're effectively a bailee in possession of the season ticket anyway, the club own title to it. The form you receive it in, is discretionary. If I'm the company and looking to digitise, I wouldn't be subverting my own policy en masse unless I really I had to (such as the elder gentleman). In fact they specifically state exceptional circumstances and "I prefer a plastic card" isn't going to qualify.
You've expressly agreed to a condition of the contract on purchase that it's digital too.
The club is basically doing what you agreed for them to do. That you didn't read the contract is why I can afford to go watch the club. Huzzah!
I don’t think it was mentioned, until the end of the process and after payment was taken.
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Nobody reads the T&Cs (until now). It will have been updated prior to the renewal period, as they're not particularly hefty additions.
Interestingly, or not, Max Stokes style Vloggers are in breach of conditions of the agreement too given they monetise via third party sites on YouTube.
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I did, it wasn’t in there.
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From a customer point view, it's annoying. From a contractual point of view, they're fine. You're effectively a bailee in possession of the season ticket anyway, the club own title to it. The form you receive it in, is discretionary. If I'm the company and looking to digitise, I wouldn't be subverting my own policy en masse unless I really I had to (such as the elder gentleman). In fact they specifically state exceptional circumstances and "I prefer a plastic card" isn't going to qualify.
You've expressly agreed to a condition of the contract on purchase that it's digital too.
The club is basically doing what you agreed for them to do. That you didn't read the contract is why I can afford to go watch the club. Huzzah!
I don’t think it was mentioned, until the end of the process and after payment was taken.
You can very well argue that you had a reasonable expectation that a physical card would be offered, and that the club is not offering the service you thought you were paying for.
Consumer rights are in your favour, especially having bought the ticket online.
But then the easiest solution for the club is to let you out of your contract and refund your money…
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I'm not a lawyer, but I've read and signed enough contracts to know that you can't unilaterally try to impose terms after the contract has been entered into, and you also can't just terminate it unless there's something like a cooling off period or a breach of the terms by the other side.
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It’s not really a term though. They never said you would get a card, you’ve assumed it. They haven’t made it clear you wouldn’t get a card either.
It’s not a breach of contract, but you are protected as a consumer if you are sold something that isn’t what you expected.
You’d easily be able to get out of that contract and get your money back as a consumer. But legally they’re under no obligation to change their service because you expected something different.
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It’s not really a term though. They never said you would get a card, you’ve assumed it. They haven’t made it clear you wouldn’t get a card either.
It’s not a breach of contract, but you are protected as a consumer if you are sold something that isn’t what you expected.
You’d easily be able to get out of that contract and get your money back as a consumer. But legally they’re under no obligation to change their service because you expected something different.
Well no, they don't specifically state that you're getting a physical ticket, but then their terms and consitions are exactly the same as last year and in there they talk about duplicate tickets and tickets being lost or delayed in the post, which very strongly suggests that you'll be getting a physical ticket as usual. I certainly wouldn't want to be defending that in court, anyway!
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Isn’t the easiest thing for the club to charge people £20 rather than refusing outright? Some people who have been refused are saying they don’t even have a smart phone, so how are they meant to enter the stadium?
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Too much reliance is placed on technology. Fans shouldn't have to justify any request for a physical card. It's almost pointless taking a mobile phone anywhere near the stadium on match days as the wifi is virtually inaccessible on many networks.
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There's no date/version on the website. It certainly has been updated as elements of the other T&Cs are explicit in their reference to 23/24 season.
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If you're willing to pay for a card, you should be able to get one, especially if the offer was there.
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There's no date/version on the website. It certainly has been updated as elements of the other T&Cs are explicit in their reference to 23/24 season.
It still doesn't mention digital tickets.
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Too much reliance is placed on technology. Fans shouldn't have to justify any request for a physical card. It's almost pointless taking a mobile phone anywhere near the stadium on match days as the wifi is virtually inaccessible on many networks.
See 3.8- you have an obligation to ensure the season ticket is downloaded to your wallet. You won't need WiFi or 4/5g for access.
From their point of view, you're not going to ensure migration to digital by allowing a second and substantial system.
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There's no date/version on the website. It certainly has been updated as elements of the other T&Cs are explicit in their reference to 23/24 season.
It still doesn't mention digital tickets.
It does at 5.2. "Season tickets are digital...". 5.3 deals with plastic cards under exceptional circumstances. 5.3 had a spelling mistake too.
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I always had the impression that they didn’t want folks to have cards. They don’t advertise the fact you could apply for one and they made the process (fill in a form and pay) a little inconvenient. I didn’t bother because I didn’t have a good enough reason. Very few people do not have smartphones now, a tiny minority (probably) and this is why they’ve only issued a few and not charged.
What is interesting is that they’ve obviously gone down the route of assuming everyone has a smartphone, even if they’ve stated that they haven’t. Basically saying tough, buy yourself one!
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Edited as hadn't read everything above!
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They definitely want everyone to go digital, and understandably so.
If you buy a season ticket you get a discounted seat. They want you to turn up or they want to re-sell the seat to someone who will. Particularly as it's a double whammy if you don't turn up as they have discounted your seat and lost the opportunity to take your money off you for food and drink on the day.
I expect over the next season or so they will be assessing the data to determine how much revenue they are losing through ST holders not going or transferring their ticket to someone else.
People accuse away fans of buying tickets for games they know they can't attend and stopping other fans having a chance to buy them. The same will be happening on season tickets.
And there are 25k+ season ticket holders compared to less than 1k full history away fans.
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People accuse away fans of buying tickets for games they know they can't attend and stopping other fans having a chance to buy them. The same will be happening on season tickets.
I hadn't thought of it like that tbf.
But one issue is they have made the club resale almost redundant as they won't put them on the market whilst there are still a lot of GA+ tickets available.
I've used the resale a fair bit over the last few years and my ticket almost always sold, but it was noticeable in the second half of last season (when I think there must have been some sort of policy change in pushing the GA+ seats) that many people were saying that the resale seats just weren't going.
So making it harder to pass on your seat and at the same time making resale less likely does seem a bit short sighted. But yes, the option of phoning the club to get a paper ticket does work.
I've never really understood why people leave their seats unused when resale was (previously) so easy.
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The digital move I assume is in the belief it's harder to pass on and tout. My Kopite mates tell me you just see tourists getting phones off the touts in envelopes now rather than plastic cards. Makes no odds, they will find a way.
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Yeah, they will. But the every day folk won't.
Wait until face recognition cameras get put on the turnstiles!
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The digital move I assume is in the belief it's harder to pass on and tout. My Kopite mates tell me you just see tourists getting phones off the touts in envelopes now rather than plastic cards. Makes no odds, they will find a way.
So can you download the tickets from one phone to another ?
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No, its all one phone. Touts at Anfield have a tout phone that the individual uses. The club does have all our photo ID now, so it is probably only a matter of time.
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They don't even need photo ID, really. They can just set it up to log your face every time you use your ticket and then check for differences.
That raises a flag which means a human then takes a look and sees how often it really is you or triggers someone at the gate to ask you for ID sometime.
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No, its all one phone. Touts at Anfield have a tout phone that the individual uses. The club does have all our photo ID now, so it is probably only a matter of time.
Presumably you can change phones though?
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They don't even need photo ID, really. They can just set it up to log your face every time you use your ticket and then check for differences.
That raises a flag which means a human then takes a look and sees how often it really is you or triggers someone at the gate to ask you for ID sometime.
It sounds like going down the Villa will be akin to a bit part in Minority Report. Its a right PIA because my brother, my nephew and two other friend groups are continually swapping tickets. I am sure there will be some way found around it
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All sounds like a big overreaction by the club to something that isn’t really a serious issue at Villa
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Is part of the cunning plan to get us oldies to give up in the face of technological barriers so that they can sell our seats at the crispy new prices for adults? Digital exclusion at Villa Park.
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I’m no Tech wizard, but I assume the phone you use at the turnstile won’t need to have a phone connection (I can rarely get a signal there anyway). So if you sometimes let a friend or family member use your ticket it might be worth using an old phone solely for your ticket, which you can use yourself and then lend to whoever’s using your ticket if you can’t go.
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I’m no Tech wizard, but I assume the phone you use at the turnstile won’t need to have a phone connection (I can rarely get a signal there anyway). So if you sometimes let a friend or family member use your ticket it might be worth using an old phone solely for your ticket, which you can use yourself and then lend to whoever’s using your ticket.
Yes that would work. Just make sure it's charged!
But really that would only be for people who share a ticket, it's really not difficult to get a paper ticket for occasional passing on.
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You're limited to 3 paper ticket replacements a year.
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You're limited to 3 paper ticket replacements a year.
OK thanks, I wasn't aware we had implemented that restriction.
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I'm guessing you can only download your ST to one phone - so that plan would need implementing before the Arsenal game?
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Amongst all this I haven't got a season ticket less than 2 weeks away from the first game. Has anyone?? Add in likely technical issues I fear a shit show at around 5 on the 24th.
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
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I’m no Tech wizard, but I assume the phone you use at the turnstile won’t need to have a phone connection (I can rarely get a signal there anyway). So if you sometimes let a friend or family member use your ticket it might be worth using an old phone solely for your ticket, which you can use yourself and then lend to whoever’s using your ticket.
Yes that would work. Just make sure it's charged!
But really that would only be for people who share a ticket, it's really not difficult to get a paper ticket for occasional passing on.
this is what I do when work commitments got in the way of getting to the match, easy to do.
UTV
The Doc
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Amongst all this I haven't got a season ticket less than 2 weeks away from the first game. Has anyone?? Add in likely technical issues I fear a shit show at around 5 on the 24th.
There is no excuse for this. They’ve had the money therefore in my opinion it should have been digitised within days and not so close to the wire. Even last season with the humble card they failed to get mine out before the first two home games. I had to have my tickets sent to my email address and print off the ticket from there. That aside, it’s fine and dandy having everything on your phone, what happens when you drop your phone in water/tea/your pint? I’ve managed at least one of those and i’d guess that prolific phone users have done all and more.
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
If anyone is able to share details of how I can go about this via DM I'd be grateful - I'm a proper luddite. Surely an old phone will still need a SIM card in it in order to get the download ST from the club?
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Bring back the old season ticket books where you pulled the voucher out every game at the turnstile.
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Bring back the old season ticket books where you pulled the voucher out every game at the turnstile.
:)
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I've got an adult season ticket in my youngest Son's name but both my Son's use it. The youngest is off to Australia for 2 years & if he has any sense he'll stay there. I asked the club if I could change the name on the ticket to my eldest. They told me I couldn't transfer the season ticket to another supporter. But that I could transfer the ticket on a match by match basis, which is impractical & nonsensical.
I told them I'd leave it as it is. In my experience they rarely, if ever, offer any sort of help.
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It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't skew the resale process so that you can't resell until ever last sodding GA+ seat has been sold - that really pisses me off.
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I've got an adult season ticket in my youngest Son's name but both my Son's use it. The youngest is off to Australia for 2 years & if he has any sense he'll stay there. I asked the club if I could change the name on the ticket to my eldest. They told me I couldn't transfer the season ticket to another supporter. But that I could transfer the ticket on a match by match basis, which is impractical & nonsensical.
I told them I'd leave it as it is. In my experience they rarely, if ever, offer any sort of help.
Download the ticket on your phone and have them both saved to your wallet. Easiest way. I do the same here.
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
If anyone is able to share details of how I can go about this via DM I'd be grateful - I'm a proper luddite. Surely an old phone will still need a SIM card in it in order to get the download ST from the club?
I guess the easiest way would be to have an old phone with the cheapest pay-as you-go sim in it?
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
If anyone is able to share details of how I can go about this via DM I'd be grateful - I'm a proper luddite. Surely an old phone will still need a SIM card in it in order to get the download ST from the club?
I guess the easiest way would be to have an old phone with the cheapest pay-as you-go sim in it?
WiFi? should have added you can use WiFi
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Is it the case that you can only download your season ticket to one devices wallet? So you couldn’t login on another device and download the ticket to that phones wallet? So in effect have the ticket on multiple family members devices.. For the European games I had multiple persons tickets in my wallet. Just passed my phone back through the line
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It's such an overengineered way of doing things - which is all about the club controlling who had access to spare tickets. Nothing for the convenience of the fan.
If people are having to pass phones back to kids (elderly parents) it's going to be a right faff getting in.
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I guess the idea is to get the people who are supposed to be named on the season ticket to actually attend. The faff is deliberate.
There are a lot of people who would and could attend all/most of the games, and not be sharing season tickets etc. They can't go because there are people working elaborate schemes of sharing to maintain ability to attend big games etc.
It reduces touting, it makes it harder to fuck about. If you lose your phone, they will let you add to a new one, and cancel the old phone/ticket from the system. if you can't attend, you can pass on to someone else.
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What happens if you want a 4th Paper ticket ?
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It has the potential for chaos at the first home game, might need need to start queuing 2 hours before kickoff.
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I’ve just received the generic rejection email too.
I have my ST and my lads on the one phone. Can we download them yet and can I get his on my phone too?
Have to say, I’m mighty pissed off with the club about this. I know there are lots of supporters of different clubs complaining about similar things.
I assumed they’d be chomping at the bit to charge an extra £20 for a small bit of plastic, but obviously not. This impacts me now, but they don’t care. Better off being a tourist or a corporate because you’re far more valued then.
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I’ve just received the generic rejection email too.
I have my ST and my lads on the one phone. Can we download them yet and can I get his on my phone too?
Have to say, I’m mighty pissed off with the club about this. I know there are lots of supporters of different clubs complaining about similar things.
I assumed they’d be chomping at the bit to charge an extra £20 for a small bit of plastic, but obviously not. This impacts me now, but they don’t care. Better off being a tourist or a corporate because you’re far more valued then.
Can I ask what reason you said when you asked? Is it so you can manage your son's as he is a youngster?
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It has the potential for chaos at the first home game, might need need to start queuing 2 hours before kickoff.
I was thinking this yesterday. I can see them asking people to arrive earlier than usual.
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Will it be any different to eg the European games when everyone had to have electronic tickets?
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Has anybody had the email yet to download the season ticket to wallet?
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Will it be any different to eg the European games when everyone had to have electronic tickets?
No.
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Next week;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823345158189932920 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823345158189932920)
"Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from next week."
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Hopefully the club will release a tutoral video of how to load your ticket on to your wallet app on your phone, and also how to gain entry to the ground with your electronic season ticket.
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Has anybody had the email yet to download the season ticket to wallet?
Nope . Radio Silence
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I have had no contact whatsoever from Villa. About par for the course. They did of course take my money asap!!
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It's 11 days until the Arsenal game folks. The e-ticket doesn't add any huge value to you or your phone before then, so there's plenty of time.
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https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823361440725524724
AVFC Support
@AVFCSupport
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Supporters will be able to download multiple digital season tickets onto one mobile device.
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https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823361440725524724
AVFC Support
@AVFCSupport
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Supporters will be able to download multiple digital season tickets onto one mobile device.
That’s good, but I’d expect we can’t download our season tickets on to multiple devices. Ideally I’d like mine and my lads on my phone and on his too. So if either can’t make it, we can get someone else in (or if either batteries are flat)… we’ll probably have to call the ticket office and get the games transferred (I suspect).
Update…Although, apparently there is a way to delete it from your wallet and add it to another device. If this is simple then that’s the route. If you can’t be bothered to call em
Update 2: the club came back and said (good to see they’re prepared 😂)
Hi. We are unable to advise on this currently. We will be providing an update regarding this shortly.
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Free buses now
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Free buses now
For one month
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
If anyone is able to share details of how I can go about this via DM I'd be grateful - I'm a proper luddite. Surely an old phone will still need a SIM card in it in order to get the download ST from the club?
And youll need the email account the club hold, to be loaded onto that phone.
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I’ve just received the generic rejection email too.
I have my ST and my lads on the one phone. Can we download them yet and can I get his on my phone too?
Have to say, I’m mighty pissed off with the club about this. I know there are lots of supporters of different clubs complaining about similar things.
I assumed they’d be chomping at the bit to charge an extra £20 for a small bit of plastic, but obviously not. This impacts me now, but they don’t care. Better off being a tourist or a corporate because you’re far more valued then.
Can I ask what reason you said when you asked? Is it so you can manage your son's as he is a youngster?
They never charged me the £20 for my card
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I think I’m going to put my 3 on old phones
I have 3 ST’s shared across 5 family members ( don’t tell the club)
the only reason I applied for the cards (rejected) was for easy crossovers, I’m just being honest the phone thing is an arseache but it’s the way we’re going so just have to find a way around it until it becomes impossible ie Face ID
If anyone is able to share details of how I can go about this via DM I'd be grateful - I'm a proper luddite. Surely an old phone will still need a SIM card in it in order to get the download ST from the club?
And youll need the email account the club hold, to be loaded onto that phone.
Yep mines on old iPhone of mine with my e mail on
don’t even need to have a SIM card phone number connected to it, just use the wallet facility
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You're far more likely to forget that phone you never use, than the phone you have about your person. Accept the shift. It's happened. There is no going back.
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Gone forever like white dog shit.
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Free buses now
But not, y'know, on the buses that'll actually get you to the game ::)
Please note that the ticket will not be valid on either the AV1 from Tamworth or the AV82 city centre shuttle bus.
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https://medium.com/@jonathan.coste/premier-league-season-ticket-prices-surge-by-7-5-59f856953579
Premier League season ticket prices surge by 7.5% on average: A breakdown of the rising costs in England’s top-flight
Manchester City fans invade The Etihad pitch after being crowned Premier League Champions | Photo Credit: Oldelpaso | Licence Credit: Creative Commons
It is 7.5% more expensive to purchase a season ticket for a Premier League club for the 2024/25 season, according to new data.
The rise significantly surpasses the UK rate of inflation, which as of June 2024, was 2% — the lowest in three years.
On average across the 20 Premier League clubs, the cheapest possible adult season ticket will cost matchday fans £570, while an “average-priced” adult ticket for the year would come in just shy of £900. Season tickets in premium seating will set fans even further back, in excess of £1,200.
Nottingham Forest impose biggest ticket price hike among returning Premier League clubs
From the 17 clubs who retained their top-flight status last season, Nottingham Forest have increased their season ticket prices the most.
The cheapest possible adult season ticket at the City Ground has increased 18.3%, from £465 to £550, while Brentford have charged their match-going fans at the Gtech Community Stadium by a similar rate of 18.1% from £390 to £460.
Although these increases are big jumps that are somewhat expected for returning Premier League fans, promoted Southampton have slapped the largest increase on their tickets to reflect their immediate return to the top-flight after a year in The Championship. Saints fans have seen their cheapest season tickets at St.Mary’s rise £100, from £379 to £479 in a 26.2% increase.
However, some clubs have been kinder to hard-paying fans enduring a cost of living crisis in the UK since 2021.
Crystal Palace and Wolves’ are the only teams to freeze their season ticket prices for the season, while Everton are the only side to decrease the price of their cheapest adult season ticket by 7.5%, dropping from £600 to £555.
However, The Toffees, who remain firmly ensnared within financial turmoil and takeover uncertainty, have off-set this gesture with incremental increases for other ticket packages.
For instance, some Everton fans will have to pay 10% more than last year, depending on seating, to watch the club in their final campaign at Goodison Park.
London clubs dominate most expensive season ticket category
London are predominantly the most expensive to watch, but this is to be expected given that the city boasts the largest average annual salary in the UK. Nonetheless, even the most affluent Fulham fans will be hard-pushed to cough up a whopping £3,000 to sit at Craven Cottage’s newly-renovated Riverside Stand, which offers a premium experience that is by far the most expensive season ticket in the UK, and across most of Europe.
North London arch enemies Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal continue the expensive trend in the capital; they are the only other sides that offer season tickets at £2,000 and above, (at £2,357 and 2,050.50 respectively).
An unconventional “Big Six” of the most expensive season tickets are comprised of another London side, West Ham (£1,720), league champions Manchester City (£1,600), and promoted Leicester City (£1,289).
Despite offering the fourth-most expensive season ticket package, West Ham also have the cheapest adult season ticket on offer across the league at £345. They are followed by Ipswich Town, whose first season back in England’s top-flight after 22 years, comes in at a relatively affordable price of £372. AFC Bournemouth (£397), Leicester City (£404) and surprisingly Manchester City (£425) offer the next cheapest adult season tickets.
For junior fans (aged 11–17), the most expensive team to support is Fulham, who can sit in the Riverside stand at a discount of £500, which still costs £2500. West Ham (£1720), Leicester (£1289) and Arsenal (£1025.25) are the other sides that offer a package over £1000 for juniors.
Notably, Arsenal are the only side to price their cheapest junior season tickets above £450. Instead, season tickets for children to attend the Emirates Stadium cost £804.75, far surpassing the price of Crystal Palace and Everton’s most expensive adult packages.
High-flying Eagles offer the best value after freezing prices for 24/25
After a fantastic end to the 2023/24 season following the appointment of Oliver Glasner, Crystal Palace have further treated their fanbase off the pitch, by freezing their season ticket pricing for the 24/25 season. As a result, The Eagles offer the most affordable adult season ticket deal across the division.
Bucking the trend of London clubs charging their fanbase’s extortionate rates, they boast both the most affordable “premium” season ticket (£705), as well as the cheapest average price for adult season tickets across the division. It costs a league-low figure of £625 on average to watch Oliver Glasner’s side this season.
The next most affordable are south-coast outfits, AFC Bournemouth (£636) and Ipswich Town (£637.50), whose price is also matched by Brentford (£637.50). The next best value is offered by Everton (£647.50), Southampton (£654) and Newcastle (£677.50).
In terms of junior pricing, Bournemouth continue to offer some of the most affordable season tickets across all ticketing categories, an average of £155.50 for 11–17 year old’s to watch the Cherries is the best on offer across the division.
Both Merseyside clubs follow suit next, with the reds offering junior tickets across different seating at £165 and the blues setting junior fans back £210 on average.
Price rises are an ominous sign of what is to come for English football fans
Following the COVID-19 pandemic most football clubs eased constraints on fans when re-opening their ticket gates, with many clubs adopting widespread price freezes. Three years on, and 18 out of the 20 English Premier League sides have abandoned the policy of freezing season ticket prices.
However, organised fan protests in response to the announced increasing season ticket prices have had some effect. Wolverhampton Wanderers, whose Chinese ownership, Fosun Group, were one of the worst hit from the pandemic four years ago, were forced to retract their proposed price hikes for season tickets, following a fan petition which attracted 15,000 signatures. Some of the scrapped prices rises would have seen junior tickets surge by 176%, from £105, to £290 to “save their seat” at Molineux.
This fan success in the west-midlands was not replicated in the east of the region, where rivals Nottingham Forest fans having vocally expressed their frustration at 18% rises for the cheapest possible season tickets this season.
While the changes will burn a more significant hole in the pocket of Forest’s matchday fans, comparatively, the club’s prices remain among the most affordable in the league across a range of categories; they rank 11th for the cheapest possible ticket, 5th for their most expensive package, 8th on average for an adult ticket, and 5th on average for juniors.
Ultimately, the widespread increases in season ticket prices for the 2024/25 season represents the continued trend of live football becoming increasingly more expensive. Kieran Maguire, football finance expert and co-host of “The Price of Football Podcast”, confirmed that this season’s increased season ticket prices are an ominous sign of what is to come for fans of Premier League clubs:
“The issue of rising ticket costs is part of a broader economic malaise across football right now. The Premier League has been flatlining in terms of broadcasting deals — clubs are getting no more money per season, so they are looking for alternative streams of revenue by increasing ticket prices.”
“For club owners, season ticket holders are commodities who have outlived their usefulness. We will see a slow movement towards reducing the number of season ticket holders, targeting concession fans, and continually increasing prices, so eventually there will be an even greater disconnect between the rich and the not so rich.”
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Rang ticket office, explained no smart phone, paid 20 quid. They said that plastic ST will be posted, should recive midweek.
No biggie, happy days UTFV
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Yippee! Card request accepted.
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I've had mine accepted too. Which is nice.
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My mate just said his was accepted too.
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Same here.
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Next week;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823345158189932920 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1823345158189932920)
"Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from next week."
Don't trust that account anymore, they've told me on 3 occasions that it would be available before the season started and now it's before the first home game. To be honest I'm happy I'm in Greece for the first home game as it'll probably be complete chaos.
Oh and I got a reply from the complaints team and well they aren't very good because I'm not quite sure who's email they was responding to because it certainly wasn't the one that I sent.
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I bought an Arsenal ticket for my son, who is a member. It wouldn't open in either google wallet or apple wallet. Rang the ticket office who agreed to send an e-ticket instead. The charming guy on the phone admitted the problem was "at their end".
Still waiting for my season ticket and wondering if the same problem will occur. If so, we'll all need to be at the ticket office well before kick-off on the 24th.
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It’s like Grumpy Old Villans on here sometimes. ;D
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Free buses now
Starmer will take that off the OAPs next ;)
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What prompted the rethink? Heroes and Villains getting pwoppa nawty on X formerly known as Twitter?
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It’s like Grumpy Old Villans on here sometimes. ;D
Sometimes?
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Accepted for one of our group also….senior without a smart phone so would have been hard to deny :-)
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Still not heard. No news is good news they say .
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It was 10 past 5 when got my email so presume still working through the requests
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Just realised it may have gone into my Spam folder .
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I've had mine accepted too. Which is nice.
Me too. Happy days
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Expect the queues to get into the ground to be much longer, as people not used to using a mobile phone struggle with the new technology.
It could be a real mess.
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Gates in the Holte End - only open 90 mins before the game, the queues for the 1st game maybe quite long, also fans like me who have been moved, will have to find where they are now sitting!!
I have received an email to say that I have got a season ticket card and will be posted to my home address at no charge, which is good news for me.
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The UH is always a breeze to get in, however there are long queues to get into the LH and TR when we walk by. That is my concern for the first game and I really think the club should've issued the tickets a couple of weeks prior to the first home game at least so that everyone would've had a chance to sort everything out such as moving to wallets etc and at least be in a position to flash the phone at the turnstile.
It's no good saying that it's plenty of time, it may be for some but not for others. Add in a few beers, a hot day, a good result the week before and I can see some frustration and tetchiness.......
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People have only had twenty-five odd years to get used to mobile phone technology. Tsk!
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The UH is always a breeze to get in, however there are long queues to get into the LH and TR when we walk by. That is my concern for the first game and I really think the club should've issued the tickets a couple of weeks prior to the first home game at least so that everyone would've had a chance to sort everything out such as moving to wallets etc and at least be in a position to flash the phone at the turnstile.
It's no good saying that it's plenty of time, it may be for some but not for others. Add in a few beers, a hot day, a good result the week before and I can see some frustration and tetchiness.......
The Witton Upper can be a nightmare to get in with long queues across the road
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People have only had twenty-five odd years to get used to mobile phone technology. Tsk!
Yes but grumpy old men always have it their way in the end. Looking forward ro receiving my season ticket voucher book.
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I don’t understand why all us GA plebs wouldn’t get there l an hour and a half before kick off first game of the season to savour all the refurbished toilets, enhanced concourse catering offerings and highly competent staff serving all those offerings….
….that is what will happen isn’t it? It can’t ALL be about the GA+ers can it? :-) :-)
Who wouldn’t want to get there to watch some kid with zero interest in being there pouring a can of something into a cardboard cup?
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In response to BE, the phone providers have had 25 years to provide me with decent mobile phone reception at home. I am still waiting.
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Blame NIMBYs.
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
The euro games were a nightmare. There were people with phones that didn’t understand how wallets work, those with printed out tickets that didn’t know how they worked.
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People have only had twenty-five odd years to get used to mobile phone technology. Tsk!
Yes but smartphones have only been omnipresent since the early 2010s and a chunky percentage of those who were in mid-life at the time may have shunned them forever.
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
The euro games were a nightmare. There were people with phones that didn’t understand how wallets work, those with printed out tickets that didn’t know how they worked.
You can’t trust people, blah Coldplay blah blah the Nazis ……
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Blame NIMBYs.
Too right. We had to fight a NIMBY in court for two years to get a 4G mast (5G turned up during this but that'a another story) in our commune. We won but people down the street are now accusing us of importing cancer for babies and bubonic plague via Orange. And posting via their iPhones and Androids on the internet...
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Still Radio Silence . At least it's not a NO . (yet)
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
The euro games were a nightmare. There were people with phones that didn’t understand how wallets work, those with printed out tickets that didn’t know how they worked.
You can’t trust people, blah Coldplay blah blah the Nazis ……
But people like lager and nuts
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
There is likely to be thousands that do not usually use their phones for this purpose.
Expect carnage.
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I've had mine accepted too. Which is nice.
Me too. Happy days
And me
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
There is likely to be thousands that do not usually use their phones for this purpose.
Expect carnage.
It’s hardly the splitting of the atom.
Go to Wallet.
Select Season Ticket
Wave in front of ticket reader until it beeps and turns green.
We’ve put men on the fucking moon FFS and people are predicting a meltdown over waving your phone in front of a ticket reader.
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Humans have put men on the moon, yes. But we’ve also elected Boris Johnson.
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We may have put men on the moon but we also have to do this
(https://i.redd.it/v7ic3odsmr681.jpg)
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
There is likely to be thousands that do not usually use their phones for this purpose.
Expect carnage.
It’s hardly the splitting of the atom.
Go to Wallet.
Select Season Ticket
Wave in front of ticket reader until it beeps and turns green.
We’ve put men on the fucking moon FFS and people are predicting a meltdown over waving your phone in front of a ticket reader.
Let’s see what happens 8)
And it was a total shit show in Witton lane.
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It wouldn't suprise me if Heck organises a "technical glitch" and spitefully locks out all the physical season card holders as a cunning plan to drag the luddites kicking and screaming into the digital age. With a team of carphone warehouse sales staff patroling the Holte End Car park swooping on the technophobes, aggresivly signing them up for extortionate 5 year mobile deals at £120 a month, featuring budget (crap) smart phone with embedded google wallet and crazy train ringtone.
It would be TV gold for the upcoming netflix documentary, the camera pans to the board room where heck is, surveying the chaos on CCTV. Takes a long drag on his cigar and mutters "cocksuckers" under his breath as some pissed off brummy despairingly signs his life away just to get into the stadium for kick off.
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Accepted. No Charge.
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It’s hardly the splitting of the atom.
Go to Wallet.
Select Season Ticket
Wave in front of ticket reader until it beeps and turns green.
We’ve put men on the fucking moon FFS and people are predicting a meltdown over waving your phone in front of a ticket reader.
But if it was the Villa IT team in charge of the moon landing, the Apollo rocket would have looked like a punctured balloon taking off, before crashing into the side of the nearest mountain.
At the moment the Villa app won't let me log in despite me using the correct password, and the link to reset it is broken.
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
Once you sent the first few to the gulags and had them flayed live on TV the rest would soon learn.
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I await the "supporters advised to arrive early" message next week following the last minute issuing of season tickets.
It's a deliberate ploy by Heck to drive more trade within the ground. Can't fool me.
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Accepted. No Charge.
Here is the Facetime call between Chris Heck and VillaTim prior to the agreement.
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But if it was the Villa IT team in charge of the moon landing, the Apollo rocket would have looked like a punctured balloon taking off, before crashing into the side of the nearest mountain.
...
Probably more like this.
(https://i.ibb.co/wSV2whX/Spoon-Family-275x300.png) (https://ibb.co/wSV2whX)
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It’s hardly the splitting of the atom.
Go to Wallet.
Select Season Ticket
Wave in front of ticket reader until it beeps and turns green.
We’ve put men on the fucking moon FFS and people are predicting a meltdown over waving your phone in front of a ticket reader.
But if it was the Villa IT team in charge of the moon landing, the Apollo rocket would have looked like a punctured balloon taking off, before crashing into the side of the nearest mountain.
At the moment the Villa app won't let me log in despite me using the correct password, and the link to reset it is broken.
Also...despite us having to use our Pride Rewards by a certain date, the website has said this for weeks
We’ll be back soon
We’re currently undergoing scheduled maintenance.
We should be back shortly!
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I consider those that faff about at the turnstiles to be the equivalent of the person in front at the garage, that has just filled up their car with petrol, paid and decides to spend what feels like five minutes adjusting their seat, putting their safety belt on and grabbing a Werthers original.
They are the same pricks who get to the ticket barrier on the Tube and only then stop and start staring at their ticket or phone, wondering what to do.
There is likely to be thousands that do not usually use their phones for this purpose.
Expect carnage.
It’s hardly the splitting of the atom.
Select Season Ticket
There is a setting where the wallet knows you are at the Villa and it automatically selects the season ticket.
you just need to fast double-click what is the equivalent of the round button on the front on my very old iphone
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I’ve got 3 ST’s on one email account and they only sent me mine so far
Tried to ring them spent 15 mins holding on then got cut off
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Humans have put men on the moon, yes. But we’ve also elected Boris Johnson.
and Keir Starmer.
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I still cannot transfer my st on the app to my Apple wallet.
If you cannot make a game and you wanted to pass your st to a mate, how could you do that, could you take a picture of the QR code and send it to them.
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Our ticketing system is poor. No consideration whatsoever for fans who aren't computer and Internet literate. The tail is definitely wagging the Dog on this. Considering we are an increasingly service based economy these days, customer services suck arse in Britain.
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Our ticketing system is poor. No consideration whatsoever for fans who aren't computer and Internet literate. The tail is definitely wagging the Dog on this. Considering we are an increasingly service based economy these days, customer services suck arse in Britain.
to be fair and give credit where its due, they came straight back to me and sorted my issue straight off.
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So are our STs supposed to be coming in an email, or have I got confused as usual?
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So are our STs supposed to be coming in an email, or have I got confused as usual?
Yep, next week I think.
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So are our STs supposed to be coming in an email, or have I got confused as usual?
Yep, next week I think.
I should bloody hope so
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Last season If you couldn't make a game you just gave your card to a relative/mate.
What do we have to do this season?
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Last season If you couldn't make a game you just gave your card to a relative/mate.
What do we have to do this season?
If you call the ticket office you can give them your friend's or relative's fan ID and they will transfer the ticket to them for that game.
If your ticket is a concession and they don't meet the criteria then you will be expected to pay the difference.
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Last season If you couldn't make a game you just gave your card to a relative/mate.
What do we have to do this season?
At the moment the system is you phone or e-mail the booking office with your friend's name and fan ID and they will e-mail them a ticket. It's very simple.
I think longer term they seem to be developing a 'transfer ticket' option on the website, although it doesn't seem to be functional yet.
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Any idea when we might be getting them? I was hoping to have it on Thursday at the very latest so can still get in touch with the club if there is a problem.
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Any idea when we might be getting them? I was hoping to have it on Thursday at the very latest so can still get in touch with the club if there is a problem.
You and 30 odd thousand others are likely thinking the same.
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Any idea when we might be getting them? I was hoping to have it on Thursday at the very latest so can still get in touch with the club if there is a problem.
You and 30 odd thousand others are likely thinking the same.
I hope not, or a few thousand of them are going to be disappointed! ;D
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I still cannot transfer my st on the app to my Apple wallet.
If you cannot make a game and you wanted to pass your st to a mate, how could you do that, could you take a picture of the QR code and send it to them.
No, because the QR code changes at a set interval.
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Physical ST still not arrived , you'd think the club could be more organised on the ticketing front .
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Physical ST still not arrived , you'd think the club could be more organised on the ticketing front .
It's Aston Villa. For all the good bits of the ownership, they're still really poor at the little things. Like getting shirts on sale and tickets out on time.
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they're very organised at taking your money though
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Physical ST still not arrived , you'd think the club could be more organised on the ticketing front .
The next time the club are organised in such a way, will be the first time.
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Apologies if I am behind everyone else but...
I went into my Aston Villa App earlier this pm and my season ticket appears to be there but it will not allow me to add to Apple Wallet.
Are others having the same issue.
I have received nothing from Villa via email.
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Apologies if I am behind everyone else but...
I went into my Aston Villa App earlier this pm and my season ticket appears to be there but it will not allow me to add to Apple Wallet.
Are others having the same issue.
I have received nothing from Villa via email.
You’ve just succinctly summarised where we are all at, right now
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There is nothing in my app at all ......
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Apologies if I am behind everyone else but...
I went into my Aston Villa App earlier this pm and my season ticket appears to be there but it will not allow me to add to Apple Wallet.
Are others having the same issue.
I have received nothing from Villa via email.
same here.
I presume its this seasons ST as it has the new badge, but I cannot add it to my wallet either
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There is nothing in my app at all ......
Same. Nor any e-mail.
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Apologies if I am behind everyone else but...
I went into my Aston Villa App earlier this pm and my season ticket appears to be there but it will not allow me to add to Apple Wallet.
Are others having the same issue.
I have received nothing from Villa via email.
You’ve just succinctly summarised where we are all at, right now
Hi there.
It could be a case of permissions in settings to allow the app and then add.
Maybe?
Best of luck to all in having season ticket resolved and hope it's not too frustrating!
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Thanks everyone for your helpful replies
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Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from this week.
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Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from this week.
"From this week". The week we've actually got our first home game. The word 'from' is slightly worrying in that context, if it was omitted the email would be a lot more reassuring!
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Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from this week.
"From this week". The week we've actually got our first home game. The word 'from' is slightly worrying in that context, if it was omitted the email would be a lot more reassuring!
I’ve noticed my app showing some changes today. I suspect we’ll get an update shortly.
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Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet from this week.
"From this week". The week we've actually got our first home game. The word 'from' is slightly worrying in that context, if it was omitted the email would be a lot more reassuring!
If their current form is anything to go by, I’d say it will be Wednesday at 5pm. Two days of mass problems to follow.
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My app now shows a download function;
(https://i.ibb.co/CtfTQBg/IMG-0953.jpg)
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Is it the same person organising it who is in charge of in ground catering?
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I have that plus a season ticket.
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Bloody favouritism. ☹️
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The usual shambles.
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Mine hasn't arrived and my postman is hardly Mr Reliable .
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The usual shambles.
I don't really think it's a shambles unless we get to Wed/Thur and tickets are still not downloadable. At that point we start to have a problem.
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Every time a new email drops I quickly open it, hoping the Villa have got into gear.
Latest one from Screwfix with bank holiday specials, may be taking advantage of this if the ticket office don’t get sorted soon.
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My app now shows a download function;
(https://i.ibb.co/CtfTQBg/IMG-0953.jpg)
When I click tickets / season tickets, I get a log in screen. I’m already logged in and my correct details won’t work and there’s no other option available. Is there a ticket office still at VP or has that gone now? I fear an early visit will be necessary on Saturday.
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This is about as fast as getting a pint in the Trinity.
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I have that plus a season ticket.
I had the season ticket, I then thought I’d try and re install the App and now it’s gone. 😂
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I have that plus a season ticket.
I had the season ticket, I then thought I’d try and re install the App and now it’s gone. 😂
Heck’s had that. He’s gone and sold that to a rich Texan.
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The Club have never let me down with anything. I trust the Ticket Office completely.
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Given that we brought back Philogene, Archer (for a bit) and Barkley, maybe now's the time to approach West Ham to bring back Nicky Keye.
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The Club have never let me down with anything. I trust the Ticket Office completely.
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I didn’t even know there was a Villa app
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I didn’t even know there was a Villa app
Your request for a physical card has been approved.
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I didn’t even know there was a Villa app
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I thought they were going to send the digital season ticket out by email. What’s all this “app” nonsense? I’m beginning to think that the whole thing is turning into an omnishambles
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The AVFC app was launched four years ago. But to be fair, you don't need the app to get tickets.
Just a PhD in technology, a strong Brummie accent and an unshakeable belief in several different divinities.
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I was just looking at my ST QR code on the app.
I saw the QR code change twice in about 30 seconds.
Is that normal, or some kind of anti ‘transfer’ thing ?
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I thought they were going to send the digital season ticket out by email. What’s all this “app” nonsense? I’m beginning to think that the whole thing is turning into an omnishambles
The email will likely be a link to the appropriate place on the app or webpage. Just download the app and be logged in, it’ll turn up eventually.
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So will it just be in the Villa app? I thought we had to have Google Wallet?
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So will it just be in the Villa app? I thought we had to have Google Wallet?
It’ll be on the app, from where you can add it to your wallet. You can just use the app on the day, but it’s reliant upon an internet connection, hence why you really want to add it to your wallets (which work offline)
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I was just looking at my ST QR code on the app.
I saw the QR code change twice in about 30 seconds.
Is that normal, or some kind of anti ‘transfer’ thing ?
It is both normal and an anti transfer thing - that's how they do it, they stop you screenshotting and sharing.
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So will it just be in the Villa app? I thought we had to have Google Wallet?
It’ll be on the app, from where you can add it to your wallet. You can just use the app on the day, but it’s reliant upon an internet connection, hence why you really want to add it to your wallets (which work offline)
Thank you.
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I've got a "Membership Card" in my app. Is that the same as a season ticket or something else?
I didn’t even know there was a Villa app
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So how did you do the light show last season?
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Tbf, I have never used the app to download a ticket to my phone. On the few occasions it was necessary last season I just used the e-mail.
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Our physical season tickets have arrive this morning, what a palava, first I was rejected, then I contacted them and they relented and said we could have them for £20 each, then I had a email saying we could have them no charge, then a further email to say £20 each, I then contacted them and said, make your mind up can we have them or not and do we have to pay or not, they then said they would be posted early this week at not charge so there we are
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My physical season ticket has arrived this morning - letter states that instructions for downloading the season ticket on your mobile wallet will be sent to your email address
Also reading the letter, it does seem as though this will be the last season that you will be able to get a physical season ticket
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Tbf, I have never used the app to download a ticket to my phone. On the few occasions it was necessary last season I just used the e-mail.
It’s straight forward (when it works 😂)
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Latest update
Season Ticket Holders are advised that you will receive a link via email for your digital season ticket to add it to an Apple or Google wallet in due course.
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"Due course"
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In my app it is still showing my old seat number and not allowing me to download it to my Apple wallet.
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I tried phoning the ticket office this morning and was cut off after several minutes in the queue
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In my app it is still showing my old seat number and not allowing me to download it to my Apple wallet.
It's probably still last year's expired ticket.
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Two games booked so far as a claret member - two absolute farces resulting in phone calls, emails the lot. I used to work with computers etc 24/7 so i'd like to think i'm fairly clued up - this new system is a total fucking shambles.
Can i please go back to being a fan rather than a customer....
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Tbf, I have never used the app to download a ticket to my phone. On the few occasions it was necessary last season I just used the e-mail.
that facility is now gone, you cant print them either. And whatever you do, make sure you download ON THE DEVICE YOU INTEND TO USE ON THE DAY because once downloaded you cant transfer or print it. - shockingly poor system. They really need to warn people in the body of the email of the limitations of this farcical bag of shite.
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So it looks like my ST card is in the Villa app awaiting download to the Apple Wallet, question, as I will also have the Villa app on an old phone can I download the ST to the wallet on that phone as well, so its on 2x?
I ask as Id like it on the old phone if you can only put it on one.
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So it looks like my ST card is in the Villa app awaiting download to the Apple Wallet, question, as I will also have the Villa app on an old phone can I download the ST to the wallet on that phone as well, so its on 2x?
I ask as Id like it on the old phone if you can only put it on one.
i'm not sure if you can download this apple wallet thing onto multiple devices and if so, will a document in it be accesible on all the devices - like i said, this isnt a happy time to be a paying supporter - fuck us, what do we count for, how dare we think we're important.
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My bank and credit cards are on multiple phones, does the ST work on different tech then?
Agree with the thrust of the rest of the post. Hand over your money plebs, and dont expect too much in the way of anything, unless you are prepared to pay more.
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Other clubs must do this. How does it work elsewhere?
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How hard can it be to send out a load of digital season tickets?
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So it looks like my ST card is in the Villa app awaiting download to the Apple Wallet, question, as I will also have the Villa app on an old phone can I download the ST to the wallet on that phone as well, so its on 2x?
I ask as Id like it on the old phone if you can only put it on one.
The answer to my own question, if anyone was wondering, is no, the ST is in the app on the new phone, but not the old.
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How hard can it be to send out a load of digital season tickets?
With physical season tickets they were always distributed in batches normally stand by stand overa few days. I suspect this time in anticipation of the number of queries they are likely to receive they are even more likely to stagger it.
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Staggering it would mean at least sending some out though, which they haven't done as yet. Also, if they don't want to get overwhelmed with queries and problems, perhaps don't leave it all until a few days before the first home match?
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It's like an episode of the fucking Krypton Factor trying to understand how this shit works.
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Tick tock, tick tock, time goes by and still no email.
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Never had these problems with the Nokia 3310 which was a phone for the gods in its day
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My physical season ticket has arrived this morning - letter states that instructions for downloading the season ticket on your mobile wallet will be sent to your email address
Also reading the letter, it does seem as though this will be the last season that you will be able to get a physical season ticket
Re: the above. Will the club supply the smartphones as well?
One of our STs arrived today. Now the sweating starts. Will the other one arrive in time, because we don't have smartphones for downloads etc? I can print out a ticket on my PC, but are we denied that?
The club should immediately put out a statement that printable tickets will be available as an emergency stopgap. Otherwise, I predict a shambles reminiscent of the League Cup Quarter Final against Liverpool on the coldest December day since God was a lad.
Oh, and as it's being televised around the world, I take it that a delay would be out of the question?
Get on the case Villa: There's a serious possibility of a public relations/promo disaster in the making here.
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"Due course"
I think they mean...... "when the person gets back from their IT course"
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I thought not releasing new kits until the end of summer was stupid. Didn't realise they weren't planning to release season tickets until the end of the season.
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Physical ticket arrived this morning. All good, well done Aston Villa ticket office.
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Maybe one for the Supporters Consultation Group that they don't really want to attend.
The rising costs of tickets mean that its probably more of an older fanbase attending than has been in previous generations, and they are less likely to embrace the technology insisted upon to get in the ground. All seems a little cack handed, a little chaotic and will almost certainly lead to more people calling in for help than they can handle.
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My physical ticket arrived earlier.
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Season Card has arrived. The only compliment I can give them is that they got it to me before the season started, unlike last season. No welcome pack either, not that I’m seduced by stickers or key rings or fancy boxed packaging. (I did like the badges they included though).
I notice on the reverse of the Letter that accompanies the card that there’s a warning for ‘unauthorised selling’ of both home and away cards with an increase in penalties being the stick. Nothing wrong with this as far as I’m concerned but, if they are going to have a more policed approach to particularly away matches the over the top, loutish behaviour of some of our lot should be the number one concern.
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How hard can it be to send out a load of digital season tickets?
as hard as they can make it - IT Departments are past masters at job justification and making life shit for everyone else. Theyre like car mechanics - they know how to milk it to their advantage and theres nothing you can do. Every IT department of every firm ive ever worked for had the same rep.
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I think the gift pack is coming before Christmas rather than as a welcome pack.
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Yep, it does say in the letter that the welcome packs will be out later in the year.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
I applied on behalf of the wife with the same reason and she's heard nothing either.
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Yep, it does say in the letter that the welcome packs will be out later in the year.
So it does. I only skim read the Benefits paragraph. I assume the packs will be geared around our 150th anniversary. Could be good.
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They’ve just put out a tweet saying they’ll be available in next 24 hours
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piss up in a brewery
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piss up in a brewery
Fortunately, the game isn't until Saturday.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
"Grant" - and therein lies the problem - they forget who pays their wages and think they can impose draconian (and it is exactly that if you dont have a nice shiny new phone etc) new conditions that are causing all sorts of grief to the paying supporters who actually go to the games as opposed to buying a TV package who are increasingly treated as an afterthought and a liability - and not just in football either.
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I can see the phone lines being busy over the next couple of days. My dad - 78 - no smart phone, applied for a physical ticket but hasn't had anything yet.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
"Grant" - and therein lies the problem - they forget who pays their wages and think they can impose draconian (and it is exactly that if you dont have a nice shiny new phone etc) new conditions that are causing all sorts of grief to the paying supporters who actually go to the games as opposed to buying a TV package are increasingly treated as an afterthought and a liability.
It's just a shit idea. Some random person deciding if in their benevolent wisdom they'll let you have a physical ticket or not.
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I cant see any possible way they can reject a request from someone with no smartphone
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The email I had on the 14 Aug said a link for the tickets would be sent out within 7 days, so that's up to tomorrow.
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I applied via the form for a physical season ticket - did not have a reply, so last week contacted the club via email and then had to give a reason why I needed a card for a season ticket
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I can see the phone lines being busy over the next couple of days. My dad - 78 - no smart phone, applied for a physical ticket but hasn't had anything yet.
Aye, and I'd further guess that rather than try and sort out lots of individual issues, they will just email everyone a ticket to print out. Which is what I wanted over a week ago and was told I couldn't have.
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I cant see any possible way they can reject a request from someone with no smartphone
It's tricky but the vast majority who say they have no smartphone will have a smartphone.
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Not to get all Bedrock-resident, but I suspect that people who don't have smartphones are not the target demographic for the club as a business.
They want the younglings who engage with content and spend their ill-gotten gain on Adidas gear. People who would rather DM a social media presence than expect someone to answer the phone to them. People who will pay for GM+ because they can stick it on their Instagram and make everyone jealous of what a success they are.
Us miserable bastards in our forties and beyond are not the future.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
I applied on behalf of the wife with the same reason and she's heard nothing either.
Things to do before the season starts: 1. Obtain money from fans for Season Tickets. Done. 2. Do necessary refurb around stadium/shop. Done 3. Launch new kits for the season. Done. 4. Issue Season Tickets promptly to thousands of fans to ensure smooth start to the season and allow a generous buffer zone of several weeks in case of inevitable glitches. Errr...
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I cant see any possible way they can reject a request from someone with no smartphone
It's tricky but the vast majority who say they have no smartphone will have a smartphone.
True dat, I was going to tell them the truth that i have a tendency to get pissed and drop/lose it after a big win and the IT fellas get annoyed with having to keep loading up the replacement so I tend to leave it at home to be on the safe side. But there wasn't enough room on the form.
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They’ve just put out a tweet saying they’ll be available in next 24 hours
Breath not being held.
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
I applied on behalf of the wife with the same reason and she's heard nothing either.
For these cases I heard that club are deciding whether to issue an Apple 15Pro or Samsung Z Flip6. So just hang in there people :)
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
I applied on behalf of the wife with the same reason and she's heard nothing either.
If its any help - one of our members has a smartphone, but it is a work phone, he has never used said phone for tickets and never would
He applied and heard nothing back so phoned the club back end of last week, they said they had not received his application, he explained why he can't use it for his season ticket and even though they banged the drum about its the way its going you will need one eventually etc, he said without a physical ticket other than going out and buying a personal smartphone he will not be able to attend, for the record he wasn't lying, he's in his 60s and has never had a need to purchase his own smartphone.
He was then granted a ticket - I would phone when you are able to ASAP, as they probably will use the we have not received it line like they did with our member.
Good luck to you both.
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Not to get all Bedrock-resident, but I suspect that people who don't have smartphones are not the target demographic for the club as a business.
They want the younglings who engage with content and spend their ill-gotten gain on Adidas gear. People who would rather DM a social media presence than expect someone to answer the phone to them. People who will pay for GM+ because they can stick it on their Instagram and make everyone jealous of what a success they are.
Us miserable bastards in our forties and beyond are not the future.
Fully agree…the clubs nirvana will be get rid of as many of older concessions as possible - they occupy a lot of the best view seats that they’d like to convert to GA+ (particularly in the Upper Witton), have concession prices and in the main don’t spend anything in the ground or shop and are unlikely to change those behaviours.
I suspect a lot of clubs will making it as awkward as possible or as expensive as they can to drum out those concession categories :-(
The business of football is w**k part 749
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They didnt bother replying to my request that they review the decision not to grant a physical ticket, as my reason was I dont have a smart phone Im not sure how others with the same reason will fare.
I applied on behalf of the wife with the same reason and she's heard nothing either.
If its any help - one of our members has a smartphone, but it is a work phone, he has never used said phone for tickets and never would
He applied and heard nothing back so phoned the club back end of last week, they said they had not received his application, he explained why he can't use it for his season ticket and even though they banged the drum about its the way its going you will need one eventually etc, he said without a physical ticket other than going out and buying a personal smartphone he will not be able to attend, for the record he wasn't lying, he's in his 60s and has never had a need to purchase his own smartphone.
He was then granted a ticket - I would phone when you are able to ASAP, as they probably will use the we have not received it line like they did with our member.
Good luck to you both.
Cheers. To be honest, if I can upload both tickets to my phone it wouldn't be an issue. We'll see what comes out tomorrow.
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I cant see any possible way they can reject a request from someone with no smartphone
It's tricky but the vast majority who say they have no smartphone will have a smartphone.
True dat, I was going to tell them the truth that i have a tendency to get pissed and drop/lose it after a big win and the IT fellas get annoyed with having to keep loading up the replacement so I tend to leave it at home to be on the safe side. But there wasn't enough room on the form.
I told them that I didn't have a smartphone, and they emailed me back to say that I could have a card at no charge. It arrived this morning.
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They might be on some shaky accessibility/human rights grounds insisting on having a smartphone to access events.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/august/20/Digital-season-tickets-to-be-issued/
Club announcement. Undisclosed fee
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I remember when we used to moan about being shit, about players who didn't care throwing in the towel and posting pictures of supercars, about DE having no ambition, Lerner abandoning the project and Xia almost destroying the club.
I get that not all is rosy with ticket prices, GA+ etc, but fuck me the fuss people are making because their season ticket isn't e-mailed a week before it's needed is ridiculous.
I'm sure someone will be on holiday and can't get the e-mail etc, but the rest of us? Come on, get a grip. Let's see if they arrive and if you can upload them to your phone with 3 days to spare as promised before melting down over trivial shite. It's wasted energy.
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I remember when we used to moan about being shit, about players who didn't care throwing in the towel and posting pictures of supercars, about DE having no ambition, Lerner abandoning the project and Xia almost destroying the club.
I get that not all is rosy with ticket prices, GA+ etc, but fuck me the fuss people are making because their season ticket isn't e-mailed a week before it's needed is ridiculous.
I'm sure someone will be on holiday and can't get the e-mail etc, but the rest of us? Come on, get a grip. Let's see if they arrive and if you can upload them to your phone with 3 days to spare as promised before melting down over trivial shite. It's wasted energy.
Three paragraphs for this. "Get a grip".
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I particularly like the variations of:
"Oh but not everyone knows how to use a phone, you know, smart phones have only been around 20 years! That's not long enough how to work out how to use them!"
"What about people with finger related disabilities who can't touch buttons on a screen?"
"This is quite clearly anti-luddite discrimination by the club, we didn't smash up all those looms centuries ago to be taken over by your FANCY FUCKING BAR CODE ON A PHONE you know"
"I typically go to the match wearing a lucky outfit which has only one single very, very small pocket, which is where I keep my season card but it's not big enough for a phone. What about me?"
"It will be absolute turmoil against Arsenal as everyone knows most of our fanbase have been living in caves, or the black country, for almost 20 years and haven't even heard about the move to mobile / digital technology. I think the club have dropped a clanger here!!11!!"
"I don't know what to think about this digital ticket stuff, what does Dan Bardell think?"
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My grandad died in 1981 and didn't support Villa. What's he supposed to do?
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The looms had it coming, with their fancy ways.
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I never played Loom, so I don’t know what it was about.
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I don't think it's being unreasonable to expect this to be sorted earlier than 3 days or so before the game considering it's the first time that all but a few will be entering the ground by a new (ish) method.
The purchases were made some time ago.
There's no hysteria or luddite approach from me, just a consideration that it won't be straightforward for everyone so a bit more time would've been appreciated.
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It is normal to worry about tickets. Indeed, the last time I turned up for a Villa vs Arse game without one was this one. And I didn't get in.
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How difficult can it be to send tickets out on time bearing in mind they've had over 2 months to address this.
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Found this on the Premier League website:
"At the Premier League’s Annual General Meeting in June, clubs agreed to the phased adoption of new digital ticketing requirements, commencing from the start of the new season.
An increasing number of clubs have already introduced digital ticketing, helping to make the sale, transfer, and use of match tickets more efficient and secure for clubs and supporters.
These emerging developments have been used to create a set of requirements for the sale of Home and Away match tickets across the whole Premier League. A two-year phased in period will begin in August, creating an opportunity for all clubs to make the necessary changes to its current ticketing offer.
Digital ticketing will become a mandatory requirement for all existing Premier League clubs by no later than Season 2026/27. Newly promoted clubs will have a period of two years to implement its use upon joining the League."
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Found this on the Premier League website:
"At the Premier League’s Annual General Meeting in June, clubs agreed to the phased adoption of new digital ticketing requirements, commencing from the start of the new season.
An increasing number of clubs have already introduced digital ticketing, helping to make the sale, transfer, and use of match tickets more efficient and secure for clubs and supporters.
These emerging developments have been used to create a set of requirements for the sale of Home and Away match tickets across the whole Premier League. A two-year phased in period will begin in August, creating an opportunity for all clubs to make the necessary changes to its current ticketing offer.
Digital ticketing will become a mandatory requirement for all existing Premier League clubs by no later than Season 2026/27. Newly promoted clubs will have a period of two years to implement its use upon joining the League."
Fucking Big Brother
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I remember when we used to moan about being shit, about players who didn't care throwing in the towel and posting pictures of supercars, about DE having no ambition, Lerner abandoning the project and Xia almost destroying the club.
I get that not all is rosy with ticket prices, GA+ etc, but fuck me the fuss people are making because their season ticket isn't e-mailed a week before it's needed is ridiculous.
I'm sure someone will be on holiday and can't get the e-mail etc, but the rest of us? Come on, get a grip. Let's see if they arrive and if you can upload them to your phone with 3 days to spare as promised before melting down over trivial shite. It's wasted energy.
It’s more the case of experience, there are reports that you can’t get through to the ticket office today, so it’s likely to be worse as the game approaches for all those who can’t access their tickets for whatever reason. So the criticism of the club for leaving it so late is entirely justified in my view. It was taking them 4 days to answer emails last week. That takes us past the game.
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I received a physical season card in the post yesterday. It's got the 150 logo on the front.
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It is normal to worry about tickets. Indeed, the last time I turned up for a Villa vs Arse game without one was this one. And I didn't get in.
You could still pay at the turnstiles in these days, I know as I somehow contrived to lose my handful of coins on the bus journey/walk across Aston park, so had to go home again and missed the game.
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Not too worried about it personally, as I can't make the Arsenal game anyway, but have any season ticket holders actually received their activation email yet?
Gutted to be missing the game, but on the other hand, won't be sad to miss the technophobe carnage at the turnstiles on Saturday evening!
I'm firmly in the camp where I think it's a good thing. The only time I ever carry my wallet on me these days is a match day for my season ticket, and I cannot wait to just be able to zap my phone instead. Yes, you could argue it's very big brother - But it also makes it harder for fans to 'gatekeep' tickets, especially away games.
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No email yet. I think this thread has been quite funny with the sheer panic over something so simple.
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No email yet. I think this thread has been quite funny with the sheer panic over something so simple.
I think it's reasonable to ask why something so simple is taking so long. If there are any issues, then people have got two working days to get it sorted out. If everything is absolutely fine from the club's side, why leave it so long to send out? Their communication is as woeful as ever. Two updates on official channels, one saying "within 24 hours" the other saying "in due course". Due course obviously being absolutely meaningless and telling people nothing.
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I’ve spotted a distribute ticket option on the website, it’s probably always been there, but I’ve been having a browse. It allows you to email your ticket to someone else if you can’t make the game.. (greyed out as an option for now though). Seems easy enough assuming it works
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I’ve spotted a distribute ticket option on the website, it’s probably always been there, but I’ve been having a browse. It allows you to email your ticket to someone else if you can’t make the game.. (greyed out as an option for now though). Seems easy enough assuming it works
It doesn’t, or didn’t.
Also, not all games are shown there, the Arsenal one for instance.
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I’ve spotted a distribute ticket option on the website, it’s probably always been there, but I’ve been having a browse. It allows you to email your ticket to someone else if you can’t make the game.. (greyed out as an option for now though). Seems easy enough assuming it works
It doesn’t, or didn’t.
Also, not all games are shown there, the Arsenal one for instance.
Arsenal is there if you scroll down/up
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Not too worried about it personally, as I can't make the Arsenal game anyway, but have any season ticket
Gutted to be missing the game, but on the other hand, won't be sad to miss the technophobe carnage at the turnstiles on Saturday evening
I was thinking last night about the league cup quarter final against Liverpool 20 years or so ago - KO delayed for 1.5 hours while people queued up to collect ticketmaster-ordered tickets that weren’t posted out. That was proper chaos
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I’ve spotted a distribute ticket option on the website, it’s probably always been there, but I’ve been having a browse. It allows you to email your ticket to someone else if you can’t make the game.. (greyed out as an option for now though). Seems easy enough assuming it works
It doesn’t, or didn’t.
Also, not all games are shown there, the Arsenal one for instance.
Arsenal is there if you scroll down/up
Nope, not there on my account.
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Strange, I’ve got the lot and my family linked ones too for the whole season. Ah well , not long now let the fun begin!
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No email yet. I think this thread has been quite funny with the sheer panic over something so simple.
I think it's reasonable to ask why something so simple is taking so long. If there are any issues, then people have got two working days to get it sorted out. If everything is absolutely fine from the club's side, why leave it so long to send out? Their communication is as woeful as ever. Two updates on official channels, one saying "within 24 hours" the other saying "in due course". Due course obviously being absolutely meaningless and telling people nothing.
We were told yesterday we'd get a link via email. What's the panic about?
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Who's panicking?
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Who's panicking?
Couple of posters yesterday were losing their minds and getting irate over things. This isn't anything new, it's what we had for European games. Expect turnstiles to take 3 or 4 minutes longer, but hopefully that dies down through regularity.
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Email received, ticket downloaded to Wallet, done.
Took about 10 seconds.
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Literally one-click and done.
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Which stands are you in? I'm Doug Ellis Lower - no email received yet.
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Holte upper.
I'm sure they'll be phasing e-mails over the next few hours.
Obviously easiest to put in wallet if you can open the e-mail on your mobile - then it's just one click.
There is also the App as a back up (although it's not showing in my app yet - the e-mail says there will be an app update this week.)
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Trinity Upper
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Thank you both!!
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Email received, ticket downloaded to Wallet, done.
Took about 10 seconds.
And me. And the wife forwarded her email to me and I've downloaded her ticket to my wallet too. Both in there. Bring on the Tarquins.
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Are Ticketmaster in charge btw or are the tickets still done in house?
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For anyone interested (typos not corrected):
Your mobile season ticket is here!
Aston Villa season ticket holders are now be able to use Apple Wallet or Google Wallet to store their NFC (Near-Field Communication) season tickets.
Follow the steps below to access your 24/25 season ticket for the following fan details:
Option 1: Access via the Aston Villa app (recommended)
1. Download or update the official app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store on the device you'd like your digital season ticket to be on.
2. Sign in to your Digital Account in the app by tapping the person icon in the top right.
3. Go to the Tickets section by tapping the Tickets icon at the bottom.
4. Your digital season ticket will appear automatically at the top of the screen when on the latest version of the app. An app update is due to be rolled out later this week.
5. Tap your digital season ticket to use it for entry into the stadium. You can also add it to your Apple or Google wallet from here.
Option 2: Download and access directly via Apple or Google wallet
1. Tap the link below on the device you'd like your digital season ticket to be on.
2. Your digital season ticket will load in your mobile web browser.
3. From here, you can download your digital season ticket to your Apple or Google wallet.
<Download>
Should you have received multiple emails for multiple Fan IDs, it is strongly reccomended that each individual downloads their digital season ticket on to their own device where possible, rather than one individual holding multiple digital season tickets in their Apple or Google wallet.
Multiple season tickets can be stored in one mobile wallet in the event of a supporter not having access to a device (e.g, children).
This email, along with a link to your digital season ticket, has been sent to all season ticket holders, regardless of whether they have applied for and been approved for a physical season card. Please note that physical cards have only been issued in exceptional circumstances. Rest assured, if you have been issued a physical season card, it will function seamlessly alongside your digital season ticket.
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Any email would be a start!
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So, if I download the email link on one phone and add to wallet, and then have the app on another phone. I should be ok and have it in two places?
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So, if I download the email link on one phone and add to wallet, and then have the app on another phone. I should be ok and have it in two places?
Now that's a good question. Don't see why not.
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I have as yet not received an email. What is the legitimate timespan for panic threshold?
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I have as yet not received an email. What is the legitimate timespan for panic threshold?
NOW!!!!!
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So, if I download the email link on one phone and add to wallet, and then have the app on another phone. I should be ok and have it in two places?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think once it's activated on one device account, that's it. You can't then activate it on Device#2, without first getting it deactivated on Device#1.
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Went into the app. Signed in but no ticket icon on the screen.
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I haven’t received any email but, thankfully, my physical season card has arrived in the post today.
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Received an email link for my ST, but not my Son’s.
Normally, two emails arrive at the same time regarding anything to do with tickets, but not today (Been an hour since the email arrived).
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Went into the app. Signed in but no ticket icon on the screen.
I believe the app will be updated. Best to wait for the e-mail and use your device wallet.
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I have as yet not received an email. What is the legitimate timespan for panic threshold?
I think you are well within your rights to start to raise a peoples army to seize control of the state.
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Received an email link for my ST, but not my Son’s.
Normally, two emails arrive at the same time regarding anything to do with tickets, but not today (Been an hour since the email arrived).
I’m in the same boat. And the ticket office lines are now jammed - just getting cut off with a message saying they’re too busy to take any more calls!
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I've just downloaded the app. Apparently it was updated around an hour ago.
I was able to sign in, view my ST and download it to Apple Wallet.
I have not had an email yet
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With this organisational incompetence I can see a shit show at the ground on Saturday.
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Received an email link for my ST, but not my Son’s.
Normally, two emails arrive at the same time regarding anything to do with tickets, but not today (Been an hour since the email arrived).
I’m in the same boat. And the ticket office lines are now jammed - just getting cut off with a message saying they’re too busy to take any more calls!
Just await your email, not everyone has one yet. P.S I’m in the same boat and expect there’s no need to contact them
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Yes, these things will be done in waves.
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Had the email but can’t download it until the app is updated. I’m sure it will be but it would be nice to know when.
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:)
Had the email but can’t download it until the app is updated. I’m sure it will be but it would be nice to know when.
Likewise. I can only see last seasons ST in the app at the moment
Update: Now been able to update app and its there and now in the apple wallet, phew
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
No update pending.
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Had the email but can’t download it until the app is updated. I’m sure it will be but it would be nice to know when.
On mine I just opened the e-mail on my phone and clicked the download button (under option 2) This placed it straight in my Apple wallet. Did that not work for you?
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Received an email link for my ST, but not my Son’s.
Normally, two emails arrive at the same time regarding anything to do with tickets, but not today (Been an hour since the email arrived).
I’m in the same boat. And the ticket office lines are now jammed - just getting cut off with a message saying they’re too busy to take any more calls!
Same here re sons ST.
My ST will still not add to Apple Wallet.
Is it likely we need the update to the app before this will load?
Just await your email, not everyone has one yet. P.S I’m in the same boat and expect there’s no need to contact them
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Going to take a few hours for them all to go through;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826229924916551877 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826229924916551877)
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
No update pending.
On apple there was, perhaps on other devices u need to uninstall and download again
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Well, I've got the email but still no ticket. Useless twats.
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Well, I've got the email but still no ticket. Useless twats.
Reinstalling the app or updating should do it
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
Spot on Frank
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Going to take a few hours for them all to go through;
https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826229924916551877 (https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826229924916551877)
So on PRAVDA the statement issued yesterday that digital season tickets will be issued in 24 hours needs the word “some” inserting.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
Spot on Frank
I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
Spot on Frank
First thing I did but there is no update pending.
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You can all relax now, mine has arrived. I know you were all worried.
Literally the smoothest process I have ever experienced. 8)
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Well, I've got the email but still no ticket. Useless twats.
Reinstalling the app or updating should do it
Thanks. I tried that but doesn't work. However I just ignored the app and used the second link in email and it seems to have worked. Not sure why season ticket not showing in app but I can worry about that another day.
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
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The Eagle has landed
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
I have reread the notice on the Villa site and “trickled out slowly” and “crap app” appear to be missing.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
I have reread the notice on the Villa site and “trickled out slowly” and “crap app” appear to be missing.
Does it really matter? JFC.
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There is some more info on the tickets here;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/mobile-ticketing/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/mobile-ticketing/)
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No email for me yet.
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There is some more info on the tickets here;
https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/mobile-ticketing/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/villa-park/mobile-ticketing/)
Apart from the fact that the information is inaccurate and the app isn't working for tickets.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
I have reread the notice on the Villa site and “trickled out slowly” and “crap app” appear to be missing.
Does it really matter? JFC.
If you get so angry about people discussing season tickets, maybe best to avoid a thread with "season tickets" in the name.
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He's probably angry at the microcosm for the continued decline of the UK represented by middle aged men not being able to follow an instruction for something not relevant until the weekend. It's slow burning my piss as you're bringing back waves of pointless phone calls over my career. I quite like being aggy, keeps the blood pressure where it should be.
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If the club say that tickets are available via the app, they really should make sure the app works. The entire purpose of such a system is to avoid taking countless calls.
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I’ve updated iOS and it’s sorted it.
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It's a shame the club are going fully digital and rejecting supporters applications for a physical card.
It's been announced today that Morrisons are scrapping some self- service tills in favour of a till with a human.
I believe the majority of supporters would like a hard copy of a ticket or season ticket . For many different reasons .
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For those interested, I have added mine to multiple devices. (iPhone wallets). So they aren’t restricted to one device
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Email received/downloaded to Google Wallet where it shows as "Season Ticket 2024-25"; if I then open it to see the Barcode it says "23/24" at the bottom (below the Barcode.) Can't see it in the App - presumably an updated Android App will be rolled out sometime later this week (as per the Season Ticket link email) which will enable it to be loaded into the App/be interesting to see if that version references "23/24"... Guess I'll try to get in early on Saturday in case there are issues in which case I'll need to get a ticket printed... Happy days!
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I was told I'd be receiving a physical card but still not arrived in the post yet - is anyone else in this position?
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
My card was fine last year tbf, so maybe I got lucky. I get that on the day there's bound to be a few teething problems for some people. But people have been melting down when nothing has gone wrong yet, just because somehow they felt they needed the electronic ticket 2 weeks or so before the game. And now people are blocking phone lines when they've been told an e-mail will be sent and Apps updated.
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Had the email but can’t download it until the app is updated. I’m sure it will be but it would be nice to know when.
On mine I just opened the e-mail on my phone and clicked the download button (under option 2) This placed it straight in my Apple wallet. Did that not work for you?
Just did this - it works!! Season ticket appeared in Google wallet instantly. Thank you.
But the Villa app is not yet displaying my season ticket!
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Email received/downloaded to Google Wallet where it shows as "Season Ticket 2024-25"; if I then open it to see the Barcode it says "23/24" at the bottom (below the Barcode.) Can't see it in the App - presumably an updated Android App will be rolled out sometime later this week (as per the Season Ticket link email) which will enable it to be loaded into the App/be interesting to see if that version references "23/24"... Guess I'll try to get in early on Saturday in case there are issues in which case I'll need to get a ticket printed... Happy days!
So does mine, though you possibly have two dots at the bottom of the screen. Swipe right and the 24-25 ST should appear (might appear!).
You can delete or archive the 23/24 ST, so it doesn't happen again. UTV
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
Good news for you that they're moving to digital so that problem wont occur again.
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I was told I'd be receiving a physical card but still not arrived in the post yet - is anyone else in this position?
you still get a "mobile" ticket according to the email.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
Good news for you that they're moving to digital so that problem wont occur again.
of course - no digital tech on the ST last year, no sireee - how could i be so dumb - it was magic beans that switched it on after i queued up. Phew.
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Email comes. Click download. Google Wallet (or Apple if you're a peasant) pops up with ticket added. It's incredibly easy.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
Good news for you that they're moving to digital so that problem wont occur again.
of course - no digital tech on the ST last year, no sireee - how could i be so dumb - it was magic beans that switched it on after i queued up. Phew.
I had my season ticket in digital last year too. Like all the European games. And West Ham's from the weekend. I don't get the moaning, at all. People are making themselves sound like tedious luddites.
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Second email arrived and just downloaded both directly from there, it appears, with no problems.
The app on the other hand, despite reinstalling, gives me another “staging log in” page before I can access tickets. I’m already logged in but those details don’t work here with no option to do anything else. Very relieved to get the emails, otherwise this wouldn’t have worked.
As I told them, with my reasons, I’ll happily pay another £40 on top of spending £1500 for the plastic cards.
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No Ads. I have no issue with Google Wallet but the app and its interface /connection to the ticket section is unfit for purpose.
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Email received/downloaded to Google Wallet where it shows as "Season Ticket 2024-25"; if I then open it to see the Barcode it says "23/24" at the bottom (below the Barcode.) Can't see it in the App - presumably an updated Android App will be rolled out sometime later this week (as per the Season Ticket link email) which will enable it to be loaded into the App/be interesting to see if that version references "23/24"... Guess I'll try to get in early on Saturday in case there are issues in which case I'll need to get a ticket printed... Happy days!
So does mine, though you possibly have two dots at the bottom of the screen. Swipe right and the 24-25 ST should appear (might appear!).
You can delete or archive the 23/24 ST, so it doesn't happen again. UTV
Thanks Russ/sorted! Will delete the old version to prevent drama at the gate when I forget...
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No Ads. I have no issue with Google Wallet but the app and its interface /connection to the ticket section is unfit for purpose.
Fair enough, but you don't need the app, although I've downloaded it as I wouldn't mind seeing if push notifications give me team news.
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CT I have emailed the ticket office and 'tweeted' @AVFCSupport about the staging login issue and other app issues.
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Yep I swapped to using the Digital ST last year as soon as they made it available, meaning I don’t have to remember to carry around yet another piece of pointless plastic. Loved the fact the Euro and Cup tickets were all electronic as well.
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Luddite? I have no problem with progress and having my season ticket on a phone, I just can’t think where the phone box is on Trinity Road, and what number I have to dial in there to get it to print my ticket out.
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No Ads. I have no issue with Google Wallet but the app and its interface /connection to the ticket section is unfit for purpose.
Fair enough, but you don't need the app, although I've downloaded it as I wouldn't mind seeing if push notifications give me team news.
You do get push notifications, for example 'Martinez signs new long-term contract' just now. :-)
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My AVFC app was showing last seasons ST even after downloading this seasons. I logged out of the App, deleted it from my device, then reloaded it and signed in again and Voilà…new ST was there and all sorted. Suggest that may be an option for several people who appear to be struggling.
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
Because AVFC and technology mix so well together. Or were you lucky enough to have had your card properly activated last year?
Still room to be a shitshow ... and we only pay £850 for the privilege
Good news for you that they're moving to digital so that problem wont occur again.
of course - no digital tech on the ST last year, no sireee - how could i be so dumb - it was magic beans that switched it on after i queued up. Phew.
I had my season ticket in digital last year too. Like all the European games. And West Ham's from the weekend. I don't get the moaning, at all. People are making themselves sound like tedious luddites.
those that know me personally would very much agree with your description.
Every time I see technology to "upgrade" things it has "gliches" - in my work there's a thing called common platform ... its useless, replacing a very user friendly interface and a significant part of the senior workforce refuse to use it, so we are all going back to the other system.
I suspect the moaning comes from an abysmal customer service approach from the club as much as the technology. Lets face it, we paid in June for the privilege of receiving an email a game into the season. What was to stop them sending said email out, say four weeks beforehand? The European tickets i got were all sent to me months in advance. I presume yours were too? My away ones I still had to queue up for, umm, physical tickets.
Tell me how do i transfer my ticket if i cannot go?
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Our emails just arrived even though we received physical cards yesterday
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I personally don't consider getting the thing I need to get into the ground on Saturday, today, as appalling customer service. What on earth do I need my season ticket for in July?
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Because i paid for it in June.
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So?
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Our emails just arrived even though we received physical cards yesterday
Yiu still get both even with a physical card.
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Just received my email. Ridiculously simple - Hit the Download button, click 'add' on the screen that pops up. Done!
All ready to go in my Apple Wallet, and finally entered the 21st century and freed from the shackles of having to carry my 'real wallet' around with me! ;)
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I’m looking forward to the day that all this pant pissing will be over with. I’ve honestly never known a bigger fuss over nothing in my life. Ridiculous
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There's more of a fuss about people making a fuss than actually people making a fuss.
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Just silently judging all the U2 loving Apple scum...
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No Ads. I have no issue with Google Wallet but the app and its interface /connection to the ticket section is unfit for purpose.
Fair enough, but you don't need the app, although I've downloaded it as I wouldn't mind seeing if push notifications give me team news.
It does.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
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Just silently judging all the U2 loving Apple scum...
I hate Android phones with a passion.
My first smartphone was Windows (which was shit), then I switched to Apple.
I had to try to sort out a problem with my Dad's Android phone a few years ago. Their OS makes no sense at all to me.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
'Frank Black' (see above) might be yer man for help on this
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To add my son's season ticket I went through this laborious process. Clicked download. Clicked add to wallet.
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They’ve just put out a tweet saying they’ll be available in next 24 hours
And more than 24 hours on, I've received nothing. I'm not panicking™ I just think they're a bit useless.
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Just received my email. Ridiculously simple - Hit the Download button, click 'add' on the screen that pops up. Done!
All ready to go in my Apple Wallet, and finally entered the 21st century and freed from the shackles of having to carry my 'real wallet' around with me! ;)
I didn't notice the download button on the email haha. I have a card but that was all rather easy.
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Just silently judging all the U2 loving Apple scum...
I hate Android phones with a passion.
My first smartphone was Windows (which was shit), then I switched to Apple.
I had to try to sort out a problem with my Dad's Android phone a few years ago. Their OS makes no sense at all to me.
Same here even down to trouble trying to sort out my old man’s android phone. I think the problem is when you are used to one platform it’s difficult trying to forget that when using the other to do exactly the same function.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
'Frank Black' (see above) might be yer man for help on this
Ta, but all done now, each ST loaded onto our individual phones and both loaded onto one I can lend to those using the ticket when I cant.
If you go to the app store and update the Villa App manually it loaded first time after the update.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
I have mine on two phones now. So it seems that although the FAQ rules say you can’t do it, you can…
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I’ve downloaded all my 3 all into my wallet and also into the wallets of my kids
Don’t know if they will all work, might only work on the first download device
time will tell but there’s no bar code on them
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I'm, genuinely, not a luddite and whilst far from proficient, I can generally get the hang of new-fangled stuff.
My issue is with how the club have handled things - going back a number of years.
Using the Villa App, I can see all the matchday tickets for my ST and my (adult) son, but I can't do anything with them, like add to my wallet or redirect to friends or family.
When I try, it asks me to login for the umptenth time and then tells me I don't have a ST - presumably because at least one CRM system they operate still thinks I have a 'Claret Membership'. I did have whilst on the ST waiting list, then cancelled it when we got STs.
Every year they auto-renew the Claret Membership, then refund it, then promise to update their systems. At some point into each new season, I give up trying to get it sorted, because why should I care if they inaccurately believe I have a particular membership if I've been refunded and our STs work.
This time, they were is a desperate rush to increase prices and take away our seats - now rail seating at the back of the Holte. So, we paid over £1,500 two months ago, and have not been advised what rail seating might mean in terms of whether the seats are permanently locked or whatever.
Now it appears I face a couple of days of trying to reach them - when they are refusing to take calls - to again correct a problem for the fourth year running so that we have a chance of getting into the game on Saturday.
I can be a grumpy bloke, but even on my 'better' days, that is $hit. UTV
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The quickest response you'll get off the ticket office is to DM them on Twitter. If you provide your fan ID you're in business within an hour or two, whatever it is you need.
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I guess with them downloaded on different phones, whichever one gets to the turnstile first blocks the other one.
On the "Wallet" version (rather than the App), if you click the little circle in the top right corner and select Pass Details, you can see the QR code – which doesn’t appear to be a dynamic one, as the pass won’t update unless it’s reloaded.
So, in theory, it should work across devices as above.
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Our emails just arrived even though we received physical cards yesterday
Yiu still get both even with a physical card.
i've had the plastic but not the electronic/digital
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The quickest response you'll get off the ticket office is to DM them on Twitter. If you provide your fan ID you're in business within an hour or two, whatever it is you need.
I've seen people say this a lot on here so I just joined twitter / X, DMd them, and nothing 2 hours later - maybe it's a busy day.
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Was it AVFC Support?
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Just received my email. Ridiculously simple - Hit the Download button, click 'add' on the screen that pops up. Done!
All ready to go in my Apple Wallet, and finally entered the 21st century and freed from the shackles of having to carry my 'real wallet' around with me! ;)
only it doesnt - my Everton ticket does nothing but tell me a certificate hasnt been found and thumbprint and Cert location are incorrect! - WTAF! - As for people sneering at others just because they havent had problems and are suffering from "Arent i clever" syndrome - well fucking lucky you...
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Was it AVFC Support?
yes
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Just received my email. Ridiculously simple - Hit the Download button, click 'add' on the screen that pops up. Done!
All ready to go in my Apple Wallet, and finally entered the 21st century and freed from the shackles of having to carry my 'real wallet' around with me! ;)
only it doesnt - my Everton ticket does nothing but tell me a certificate hasnt been found and thumbprint and Cert location are incorrect! - WTAF! - As for people sneering at others just because they havent had problems and are suffering from "Arent i clever" syndrome - well fucking lucky you...
You need to tipex out Everton and use red crayon to write Arsenal on. That should work.
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I would really prefer it if people didn't post about season tickets while I'm sneering at them.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
I have mine on two phones now. So it seems that although the FAQ rules say you can’t do it, you can…
I guess you won’t know if it works on either phone until you try it at the turnstile. I’m surprised you can do that given they make such a fuss about not passing season tickets on. I thought that was the main reason for moving from physical cards.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
I have mine on two phones now. So it seems that although the FAQ rules say you can’t do it, you can…
I guess you won’t know if it works on either phone until you try it at the turnstile. I’m surprised you can do that given they make such a fuss about not passing season tickets on. I thought that was the main reason for moving from physical cards.
Not sure, I guess they have to have the option for you to have it on more than one device so that they don’t get hassle every time someone upgrades their phone, loses it or battery goes wrong etc… most wouldn’t be happy letting third parties download their season ticket and would only trust close friend or family. I’m going to download mine across the family as backup really. Hopefully it works otherwise it’ll really clog up the ticket office on Saturday
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There appears to have been an update for iPhone…
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No problems loading tickets to Google Wallet, took seconds. That's the easy bit. I suspect there will be problems on Saturday at the turnstiles though, so I'll be going earlier than usual.
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Received an email with my season ticket but nothing for my 12 year olds. Would have thought they’d have been sent in the same email.
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Doesn't appear to be anything stopping me loading the ST onto 2x different phones, haven't managed to load my daughters onto my phone yet but I'll keep trying.
I have mine on two phones now. So it seems that although the FAQ rules say you can’t do it, you can…
I guess you won’t know if it works on either phone until you try it at the turnstile. I’m surprised you can do that given they make such a fuss about not passing season tickets on. I thought that was the main reason for moving from physical cards.
Must admit I wasn’t expecting it to load onto another device either and you are right in that I won’t know until I or someone else tries it although being able to load more than one card on to a phone makes sense for those of us with kids.
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Received an email with my season ticket but nothing for my 12 year olds. Would have thought they’d have been sent in the same email.
I’d definitely think they’d be in seperate emails. Do they have the same surname as you? We reckoned they were arriving in clear alphabetical order in our group. Maybe the adult and child lists are seperate?
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My kid had hers an hour after mine
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
I hope that you haven't got COLP or COFA responsibilities in your legal practice!
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
That's interesting. The Club are recommending the App as the preferred option. My mobile never works at Villa Park, so your suggestion that you put it in a wallet which works offline seems a sound one. I wonder why the Club are recommending the App?
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No problems loading tickets to Google Wallet, took seconds. That's the easy bit. I suspect there will be problems on Saturday at the turnstiles though, so I'll be going earlier than usual.
there will only be problems if the turnstile technology fails
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I'm not sure how it's disorganised. You're told you're going to be emailed. Some people start to recieve emails. I had mine a couple of hours ago, my son's an hour later, other members of the family not just yet.
You remind me of clients who get a letter telling them what's going on, but instead of reading it, they call our staff to ask what's going on.
I hope that you haven't got COLP or COFA responsibilities in your legal practice!
I deal with complaints. They're fun.
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tempted to get in the ground by 4pm . i can see long queues
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Downloaded mine and my lads to my iPhone wallet earlier fine. Went round to my Dad’s to set his up on Android. Updated the app then clicked the link to add to his Google Wallet. Went in fine. I then logged in as him on my iPhone and tried to add to Apple wallet and it says ‘You have already downloaded this to an android phone’ so seems like you can’t download on different devices if not the same OS? Anyone else got round this. Clicking the link in his email on my phone comes up with ‘Something has gone wrong’ message.
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
That's interesting. The Club are recommending the App as the preferred option. My mobile never works at Villa Park, so your suggestion that you put it in a wallet which works offline seems a sound one. I wonder why the Club are recommending the App?
The app finally works, now. When you go in there and find tickets it now suggests that you add to Google Wallet so they're still recommending that, now, in a roundabout way.
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
That's interesting. The Club are recommending the App as the preferred option. My mobile never works at Villa Park, so your suggestion that you put it in a wallet which works offline seems a sound one. I wonder why the Club are recommending the App?
The app finally works, now. When you go in there and find tickets it now suggests that you add to Google Wallet so they're still recommending that, now, in a roundabout way.
Not that I read the email properly, to be fair, but I think you may have misunderstood. I think they were recommending the app over the email as a way of getting it into the wallet.
They weren’t recommending the app over the wallet. Even since last year, the app has always recommended putting it into the wallet
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
That's interesting. The Club are recommending the App as the preferred option. My mobile never works at Villa Park, so your suggestion that you put it in a wallet which works offline seems a sound one. I wonder why the Club are recommending the App?
The app finally works, now. When you go in there and find tickets it now suggests that you add to Google Wallet so they're still recommending that, now, in a roundabout way.
Not that I read the email properly, to be fair, but I think you may have misunderstood. I think they were recommending the app over the email as a way of getting it into the wallet.
They weren’t recommending the app over the wallet. Even since last year, the app has always recommended putting it into the wallet
Quite possibly. 🙂
I think this week is the first time I remember even looking at the app. I have no recollection of the first time I downloaded it.
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I expect if you all go to the App Store and update the app, then your season tickets are awaiting you. Just done it and sorted.
You don’t need to wait for the emails
App not working for me, so I had to wait for the email. I think you need the email to move it into Wallet so can be used offline, anyway, otherwise you are relying on getting a signal at Villa Park with 40,000 people trying to do the same thing.
That's interesting. The Club are recommending the App as the preferred option. My mobile never works at Villa Park, so your suggestion that you put it in a wallet which works offline seems a sound one. I wonder why the Club are recommending the App?
The app finally works, now. When you go in there and find tickets it now suggests that you add to Google Wallet so they're still recommending that, now, in a roundabout way.
Not that I read the email properly, to be fair, but I think you may have misunderstood. I think they were recommending the app over the email as a way of getting it into the wallet.
They weren’t recommending the app over the wallet. Even since last year, the app has always recommended putting it into the wallet
Quite possibly. 🙂
I think this week is the first time I remember even looking at the app. I have no recollection of the first time I downloaded it.
Thank you, both.
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No problems loading tickets to Google Wallet, took seconds. That's the easy bit. I suspect there will be problems on Saturday at the turnstiles though, so I'll be going earlier than usual.
there will only be problems if the turnstile technology fails
More likely it'll be the extended time people take getting through the turnstiles as they arse about with their phone, myself included.
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From the experience of last season the turnstile queues always seemed longer and slower moving for European games when everyone had separate printed or digital tickets on phones. The fact people arrived closer to kick off didn’t help though.
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tempted to get in the ground by 4pm . i can see long queues
Already ! Christ I best get a move on if they've started queuing already
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From the experience of last season the turnstile queues always seemed longer and slower moving for European games when everyone had separate printed or digital tickets on phones. The fact people arrived closer to kick off didn’t help though.
I wonder if that's a night game thing, though.
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From the experience of last season the turnstile queues always seemed longer and slower moving for European games when everyone had separate printed or digital tickets on phones. The fact people arrived closer to kick off didn’t help though.
I wonder if that's a night game thing, though.
Probably. The traffic getting to midweek night games from South of the city centre was horrendous last season.
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My congratulations to the Ticket Office for this seamless launch. All information arrived on time as stated and cards loaded into Apple wallet within seconds. Brilliant work as expected from a class outfit that is Aston Villa.
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Still no email…
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Looked at the QR code on the Villa app and turned off mobile and WiFi connection and the QR code constantly changes and was the same when using a old phone
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Looked at the QR code on the Villa app and turned off mobile and WiFi connection and the QR code constantly changes and was the same when using a old phone
I would imagine what happens is that your QR code is updated by some combination of a code set by the provider plus another element which does not require internet, like a date and time, for example.
So, for example, imagine if i sent you a non-changing barcode which decrypted to a password to let you into the match, like this:
"unaiemeryisgod"
If that entry code never changed, you could screen shot and pass that along to whoever you wanted, and they'd have entry. That would stop you selling your ticket, which obviously, makes Chris Heck and co sad.
If i wanted to stop you doing that, I could give you that code, but also make the code longer by appending the current time to the end, so if it was at the point of entry, 21-08-2024 14:50, that code could be updated to
"unaiemeryisgod210820241450"
... ie the original pass code plus the current date and time. I could update that code every 30 seconds, because the current time has changed, so the code has changed, so the QR changes, and it does so regardless of you having an internet connection or not.
When you tried entering the ground, the scanner could check if your decrypted QR code read "unaiemeryisgod" plus a representation of the current time minus 30 seconds or less.
I am using current time as an example here, but it could be any one of many possible 'seed' values which change regularly and don't require an internet connection. The app (Google Wallet or Apple Wallet or club app or whatever) will be built to have this capability baked in.
This is basically similar to how authenticator apps on your phone work for multi factor authentication for your email or whatever (which of course, everyone should always use, whenever they are an option).
I'll qualify the above by saying I do work in tech, but not in that field, so I am probably making massive generalisations here.
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Wow, interesting!
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App updated. Selected “tickets” then “add to wallet”.
Added Seadon Ticket to phone wallet.
No fuss, no issue.
Will see if under 14 plastic card has arrived when get home from Pembrokeshire. (Enjoyed spotting Villa shirts here!)
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Looked at the QR code on the Villa app and turned off mobile and WiFi connection and the QR code constantly changes and was the same when using a old phone
encrypted ticket .
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I would imagine what happens is that your QR code is updated by some combination of a code set by the provider plus another element which does not require internet, like a date and time, for example.
Etc, etc
These white coated tech boffin Jonnies think of everything.
That’s very well explained, it must be because I understood it and I’m shit at technology. Thank you.
But the main positive I’m taking is that as I read it, once the ticket is in a wallet, any wallet, you are on velvet as it should always update to latest code.
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That’s very well explained, it must be because I understood it and I’m shit at technology. Thank you.
No worries. It's probably wrong, mind, as i said, it's not my patch.
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Just a heads up for anyone looking for their ticket on the app. When you open the ticket tab on the app, on my phone the main white screen says 'No Tickets Available' However, if you look at the top of the screen the season ticket is there - it's a little blue box with your name on it.
Just thought I'd mention it as I didn't spot it as first and was thrown by the no tickets available message.
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Still no email…
same.
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Still no email…
same.
I received mine yesterday, no problems and I had assumed they were sending them alphabetically which makes no sense if you haven't had yours yet Mr E. Perhaps then they are being sent according to date of application which would make sense as I thought you were hesitating in your purchase. Any road up we must meet up pre match one day Mr E assuming you get safe receipt of the season ticket.
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Phoned the club. "We're having some technical issues, the email should be sent this evening or tomorrow."
Many thanks, that's massively reassuring. Should be sent tomorrow, the day before the game. Absolutely useless bastards.
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Phoned the club. "We're having some technical issues, the email should be sent this evening or tomorrow."
Many thanks, that's massively reassuring. Should be sent tomorrow, the day before the game. Absolutely useless bastards.
I reckon they're winding you up over the invoice situation.
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Phoned the club. "We're having some technical issues, the email should be sent this evening or tomorrow."
Many thanks, that's massively reassuring. Should be sent tomorrow, the day before the game. Absolutely useless bastards.
I reckon they're winding you up over the invoice situation.
Ha, the thought did occur to me!
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Just a thought the people who have not had emails have you checked your spam folders
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
In Iphone, you don't need to do that.
go to the app store.
click on the "you" icon in the top right hand corner.
find the villa app
select update
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
In Iphone, you don't need to do that.
go to the app store.
click on the "you" icon in the top right hand corner.
find the villa app
select update
Yup, thats what I did and the tickets were there straight away.
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Phoned the club. "We're having some technical issues, the email should be sent this evening or tomorrow."
Many thanks, that's massively reassuring. Should be sent tomorrow, the day before the game. Absolutely useless bastards.
Wont they email you a ticket to print out as a failsafe?
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They keep talking about downloading the 'PDF' but there was no PDF in my ticket mail, no PDF on the website in my account, no PDF link in the app. So why mention PDF files ticket office team?
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
In Iphone, you don't need to do that.
go to the app store.
click on the "you" icon in the top right hand corner.
find the villa app
select update
Yep not had any email. Just updated app and added it to wallet, no issue at all.
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They keep talking about downloading the 'PDF' but there was no PDF in my ticket mail, no PDF on the website in my account, no PDF link in the app. So why mention PDF files ticket office team?
I've had that before - the pdf is normally at the bottom of the email, but on occasion, it's missing. I've emailed support@ and they sort it pretty quickly.
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They keep talking about downloading the 'PDF' but there was no PDF in my ticket mail, no PDF on the website in my account, no PDF link in the app. So why mention PDF files ticket office team?
I've had that before - the pdf is normally at the bottom of the email, but on occasion, it's missing. I've emailed support@ and they sort it pretty quickly.
Until Microsoft Office added a thing where they'd remind you if you'd mentioned attachments but hadn't actually added any, I would routinely send emails without the attachments I'd intended to attach.
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I can imagine the Villa ticket office with a load of Villa elves individually typing up ticket emails and attaching or forgetting to attach PDF files saved from Foxit PDF creator or Word 2007.
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There was something manual they had to do in the process - probably tick a little box somewhere - this obviously caused some issues!
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I now have a season ticket in my Google wallet app. Groovy.
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
I had the email but nothing showed up in my app account in spite of updating thrice!
Uninstalled and reinstalled the app and there it was!!!
Thanks for the tip cdbf!!!
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18.k ST'S downloaded so far.
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18.k ST'S downloaded so far.
Yep quite a few leaving it late. Probably asking the kids/grandkids to assist when they visit. 😂
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I can imagine the Villa ticket office with a load of Villa elves individually typing up ticket emails and attaching or forgetting to attach PDF files saved from Foxit PDF creator or Word 2007.
MS Publisher in da house.
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Glad I got accepted for a physical Season card! Good luck guys!
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Glad I got accepted for a physical Season card! Good luck guys!
It’s not going to make any difference. My ST in my apple wallet will work as well as it did for European games last year, which was just as well as my (or your) plastic card.
Unfortunately we will both be stuck behind loads of people who think that they can rely on the app having a signal, or get in with a screenshot of the QR code.
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Has anyone else’s physical card not arrived yet? Or is it just mine that has gone missing?
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Im working Saturday so I can’t make the game. How do i let someone else use my season ticket? I’ve messaged Villa but they haven’t replied.
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"How can I get someone to come to the game who may spend money at the ground and in the shop?"
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
I had the email but nothing showed up in my app account in spite of updating thrice!
Uninstalled and reinstalled the app and there it was!!!
Thanks for the tip cdbf!!!
No worries, had to explain to my dad how to do same thing earlier, and it worked, so seems it's the same for a few people.
Just updating seems to work for iPhones, judging by above, but cool Android kids have to uninstall then reinstall.
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Im working Saturday so I can’t make the game. How do i let someone else use my season ticket? I’ve messaged Villa but they haven’t replied.
I think this is how it's meant to work, but doesn't seem to!
After you login.
Select Buy Tickets
Select your name (top right)
Select Tickets
Select the specific match
Then the Distribute option should be available. Fill out the details with the Fan ID / email address of the person you want the ticket to go to.
Having said all that, I can't see the Arsenal game in the list of games available. Which I guess is not helpful.
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If you haven't had the emails have you checked if tickets available in the app? You don't really need the email if so. If you can't find ticket in app, try uninstalling and then re-installing said app.
I had the email but nothing showed up in my app account in spite of updating thrice!
Uninstalled and reinstalled the app and there it was!!!
Thanks for the tip cdbf!!!
No worries, had to explain to my dad how to do same thing earlier, and it worked, so seems it's the same for a few people.
Just updating seems to work for iPhones, judging by above, but cool Android kids have to uninstall then reinstall.
Cool Android it is! ;-)
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Got mine on the app today - simple to download into Google wallet.
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Im working Saturday so I can’t make the game. How do i let someone else use my season ticket? I’ve messaged Villa but they haven’t replied.
I think this is how it's meant to work, but doesn't seem to!
After you login.
Select Buy Tickets
Select your name (top right)
Select Tickets
Select the specific match
Then the Distribute option should be available. Fill out the details with the Fan ID / email address of the person you want the ticket to go to.
Having said all that, I can't see the Arsenal game in the list of games available. Which I guess is not helpful.
And also DM Villa Support on Twitter, after that you'll have to lend them your phone or download your ST onto an old phone and give them that.
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https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/ticket-forwarding
A customer of mine is a Liverpool Season Ticket holder - this is their approach. Seems pretty good.
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Only about 10000 season ticket holders that haven’t downloaded their ticket.
What could possibly go wrong tomorrow 😂?
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Downloaded mine no problem from the email. So now safely ensconced in google wallet. i keep seeing NRC needed. If it's in google wallet does NRC have to on as well. I was under the impression it's scanning the QR code not taping it like you do with a CC. Is that right does anyone know?
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You tap it, so yes it uses NFC.
I think you can open it to show the qr code if you prefer.
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
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Only about 10000 season ticket holders that haven’t downloaded their ticket.
What could possibly go wrong tomorrow 😂?
Where are you getting the figures from?
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
I wouldn’t have thought so.
One of our group can’t go but rang yesterday to get it transferred. The recipient has had an email this morning to say it’s been allocated to him.
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Only about 10000 season ticket holders that haven’t downloaded their ticket.
What could possibly go wrong tomorrow 😂?
What time are we expecting the website article today to tell everyone to get to the ground early? :-)
Suspect anybody whose routine is to get to the ground 15 mins before kick off might be in for a delay tomorrow….
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
I doubt they'd make it that easy to transfer a ticket to a mate.
your best bet is probably set up a google wallet on a spare phone in your name
let us know how you get on as im sure everyone wants to know! ;D
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First hour today, still too busy to answer phones.
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
I doubt they'd make it that easy to transfer a ticket to a mate.
your best bet is probably set up a google wallet on a spare phone in your name
let us know how you get on as im sure everyone wants to know! ;D
It’s usually incredibly easy to transfer a ticket to a mate. You’re not allowed to resell it so as long as you just say you are letting a friend of family member use it, it’s fine.
I know it’s the same this season because we have done it this week.
The difficulty right now is the volume of telephone & email traffic to the ticket office, but it is usually as easy as a telephone call or an email to ticketsales@avfc.co.uk.
Try both at this stage!
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
I wouldn’t have thought so.
One of our group can’t go but rang yesterday to get it transferred. The recipient has had an email this morning to say it’s been allocated to him.
Do they they charge them for the ticket or is it just a straight transfer without charge?
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Hi - maddeningly, I cannot go tomorrow. But another family member can use the ticket.
I read that I am supposed to ring up ticket office and get them to transfer to the other person's ID. I am reading here that 0 chance of getting through to do that - not open til 10.00 and they get an hour off for lunch!!
I have not downloaded the ST to my Apple wallet yet, so if the other person does that first, uses it for the Arse and then deletes it from their wallet, is that going to mess up my ability to download the ST to my wallet and use it for future games?
Any techies here can throw any light please?
I wouldn’t have thought so.
One of our group can’t go but rang yesterday to get it transferred. The recipient has had an email this morning to say it’s been allocated to him.
Do they they charge them for the ticket or is it just a straight transfer without charge?
No charge unless it’s a change of price category (a senior or child ticket being transferred to an adult) - then they will ask for the difference & it appears to move to the full cost of a match ticket. (I reckon you won’t get the difference back if the difference is child or senior to adult either!)
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One of our group can’t go but rang yesterday to get it transferred. The recipient has had an email this morning to say it’s been allocated to him.
Do they they charge them for the ticket or is it just a straight transfer without charge?
I thought it is possible to do on the website, as long as the recipient has an AV account number.
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Only about 10000 season ticket holders that haven’t downloaded their ticket.
What could possibly go wrong tomorrow 😂?
Where are you getting the figures from?
Villa official support on twitter.
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One of our group can’t go but rang yesterday to get it transferred. The recipient has had an email this morning to say it’s been allocated to him.
Do they they charge them for the ticket or is it just a straight transfer without charge?
I thought it is possible to do on the website, as long as the recipient has an AV account number.
I can see that there is a distribute option for each game ticket, but it’s greyed out and doesn’t function..so it either call/email the club or log someone into your account on their phone or give em your phone
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I'm glad that they graciously awarded me a physical card because I don't think there has ever been a topic where I have understood so few entries.
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I'm glad that they graciously awarded me a physical card because I don't think there has ever been a topic where I have understood so few entries.
😂
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A friend was on to the ticket office earlier and was told that the website is to be updated to allow ticket transfers to be made on line.
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Sorry in advance for any delays getting into the ground tomorrow, specifically the North Stand.
My nephew goes on holiday later today, and has kindly forwarded his ticket to me, he's a good lad,
anyway i can see the ticket on my mobile, there is a qr code i think it is, is this scanned at the turnstile to allow entrance?
I really don't want to be a source of frustration for anyone, myself included, but at my age, and rapidly declining eyesight , could be problematic,
all advice graciously welcome, and stay safe all.
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A friend was on to the ticket office earlier and was told that the website is to be updated to allow ticket transfers to be made on line.
To be fair they have been saying that for the last couple of years. The frustrating thing is, up until a couple of years ago you could do it on the website - I did it a few times, then someone at Villa twigged and the permissions were changed.
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A friend was on to the ticket office earlier and was told that the website is to be updated to allow ticket transfers to be made on line.
Good to know. It’s going to be interesting data for the club. I struggle with the varying kick off times with little ones, so I’m anxious about them bringing in any limits to how many can be transferred. I think I remember limits to the resales via the club that have not been enforced (I think) not sure if they applied to giving tickets away to mates. In the endif they place a limit, they’ll end up with gaps in the crowd or eventually force some of us out for low attendance due to TV broadcast times.
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Sorry in advance for any delays getting into the ground tomorrow, specifically the North Stand.
My nephew goes on holiday later today, and has kindly forwarded his ticket to me, he's a good lad,
anyway i can see the ticket on my mobile, there is a qr code i think it is, is this scanned at the turnstile to allow entrance?
I really don't want to be a source of frustration for anyone, myself included, but at my age, and rapidly declining eyesight , could be problematic,
all advice graciously welcome, and stay safe all.
Even if it doesn’t scan I’m sure you can show it to one of the staff, who’ll let you through. That’s what happens with train tickets if you have to go through the barrier more than once.
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Thank you Mr SE, i think a fair proportion of my concerns should be aimed at my own nervousness/ excitement for the game.
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Just updated the Android Villa App again (2nd time this week) and the Season Ticket (which appeared after the last update) has now disappeared from "Tickets" (tried logging in/out again etc...) Still in my Google Wallet so OK.
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Just updated the Android Villa App again (2nd time this week) and the Season Ticket (which appeared after the last update) has now disappeared from "Tickets" (tried logging in/out again etc...) Still in my Google Wallet so OK.
...and now just appeared again in the App!... those Elves are busy
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Why do we have a membership card with changing QR code on the App and a different 'season ticket' that is uploaded to the wallet ?
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Sorry in advance for any delays getting into the ground tomorrow, specifically the North Stand.
My nephew goes on holiday later today, and has kindly forwarded his ticket to me, he's a good lad,
anyway i can see the ticket on my mobile, there is a qr code i think it is, is this scanned at the turnstile to allow entrance?
I really don't want to be a source of frustration for anyone, myself included, but at my age, and rapidly declining eyesight , could be problematic,
all advice graciously welcome, and stay safe all.
This is my plan as well for when i can't attend. i'm trialling having all 4 of our tickets in my apple wallet tomorrow scanning everyone in from my device and then deleting them after the game, remove the app and then re-install them back onto each individuals phone. If that works if one of the kids can;t make it I can drop their ticket back onto my phone and scan their mate in
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Why do we have a membership card with changing QR code on the App and a different 'season ticket' that is uploaded to the wallet ?
Once you put it in the wallet, it becomes a contactless device and you just wave your phone near the reader and hey-presto.
And it definitely doesn't need internet access.
The QR code will need to be scanned like one of those scan as you pack things at the supermarket and I have not seen absolute confirmation that it doesn't require internet access and if the way it changes every few seconds is linked to an internet connection or as someone else explained, based on time, space and ham sandwich algorithms.
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Absolute shambles, been trying since Wednesday to get through to ticket office to move one in to someone elses name
Just drove to Villa, lots of people in a similar position. No ticket office or ticket officer on site. All they could say is they 'may be opening a ticket office tomorrow to deal with issues but no confirmation of time yet'
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Please be aware the app QR code does require an internet connection, you can only rely upon the ticket added to your wallet.
Hence the concerns from the club about just how many haven’t been downloaded (yet)
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Just downloaded google wallet and added the ticket to it, i'm more apprehensive about getting in than i am about the result, anyway thank you Frank, take care
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Any news or idea on changing season tickets over for tomorrow? I've emailed and the phone lines are down - is there any other way people are aware of?
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There will be ticket offices in the Holte End car park and by the side of the Trinity Road stand tomorrow and they are open from 1.00pm until 6.00pm
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There's lots of angry people saying they need to get through to the ticket office and can't. Whichever way you look at it, leaving it until this late has been a fuck up.
(Awaits "I managed to do mine so anyone who hasn't is a twat" posts)
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I was at the ground this morning and it was absolute chaos. Contractors and their vans everywhere. Cranes. Supporters being told to park elsewhere.
I will be impressed if the ground is ready tomorrow
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There's lots of angry people saying they need to get through to the ticket office and can't. Whichever way you look at it, leaving it until this late has been a fuck up.
(Awaits "I managed to do mine so anyone who hasn't is a twat" posts)
I agree leaving such a big change so late is puzzling to say the least. In our WhatsApp group there were a couple of people getting really frustrated this morning but they said the phone lines seemed to settle down this afternoon and it was a bit easier to get through.
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There's lots of angry people saying they need to get through to the ticket office and can't. Whichever way you look at it, leaving it until this late has been a fuck up.
(Awaits "I managed to do mine so anyone who hasn't is a twat" posts)
I am not sure what's the matter with these angry people. I managed to do min........ (runs away to hide)
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I am not sure what's the matter with these angry people. I managed to do min........ (runs away to hide)
It's like elite frequent flyers, you get a special number to call so it's answered and dealt with quickly.
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There's lots of angry people saying they need to get through to the ticket office and can't. Whichever way you look at it, leaving it until this late has been a fuck up.
(Awaits "I managed to do mine so anyone who hasn't is a twat" posts)
There’s only Sandra on today and she’s snowed under
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My tickets finally appeared a couple of hours ago. That is what you call truly shit service.
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I don't understand why it has been left so late?
Surely this is an off-the-shelf ticket integration they are using. It was "tested" last season, demanded (lol, yeah right) by the fans and is a pretty simple process.
They'll no doubt say it was a fantastic roll-out and everything has gone to plan.
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Fortunately I received my season card on Wednesday. No sign of the email regarding digital ticket though.
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Supporters are advised of the below NFC matchday instructions ahead of tomorrow's Arsenal match:
Make sure your phone is charged before you leave for Villa Park.
Only open your Apple / Google wallet on approach to the turnstile, as the wallet will time out.
Remove any bank cards stored next to your phone.
If you have multiple tickets in your wallet, please ensure you display the 24/25 season ticket.
Avoid putting your device in the mouth of the reader - tap it on the top
#AVFC
From https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826974690096632234
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absolute shambles
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Supporters are advised of the below NFC matchday instructions ahead of tomorrow's Arsenal match:
Make sure your phone is charged before you leave for Villa Park.
Only open your Apple / Google wallet on approach to the turnstile, as the wallet will time out.
Remove any bank cards stored next to your phone.
If you have multiple tickets in your wallet, please ensure you display the 24/25 season ticket.
Avoid putting your device in the mouth of the reader - tap it on the top
#AVFC
From https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826974690096632234
Is all this to take place before, during or after when we are being frisked?
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If That's Life was still on i'd be calling Esther Rantzen to complain
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Supporters are advised of the below NFC matchday instructions ahead of tomorrow's Arsenal match:
Make sure your phone is charged before you leave for Villa Park.
Only open your Apple / Google wallet on approach to the turnstile, as the wallet will time out.
Remove any bank cards stored next to your phone.
If you have multiple tickets in your wallet, please ensure you display the 24/25 season ticket.
Avoid putting your device in the mouth of the reader - tap it on the top
#AVFC
From https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826974690096632234
Is all this to take place before, during or after when we are being frisked?
After.
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What could possibly go wrong?
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As a self confessed 'knicker wetter', is it safe yet to call this out as an almighty cluster fuck?
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Supporters are advised of the below NFC matchday instructions ahead of tomorrow's Arsenal match:
Make sure your phone is charged before you leave for Villa Park.
Only open your Apple / Google wallet on approach to the turnstile, as the wallet will time out.
Remove any bank cards stored next to your phone.
If you have multiple tickets in your wallet, please ensure you display the 24/25 season ticket.
Avoid putting your device in the mouth of the reader - tap it on the top
#AVFC
From https://x.com/AVFCSupport/status/1826974690096632234
Avoid putting your device in the mouth of the reader - tap it on the top.
This is very good advice in all circumstances.
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So my mate isn’t going today, we’ve failed to transfer the season ticket over to someone else.
What’s the best option? Download it on their phone or just go to the ground at 13.00 (although ST holder won’t be present)
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Please be aware the app QR code does require an internet connection, you can only rely upon the ticket added to your wallet.
Hence the concerns from the club about just how many haven’t been downloaded (yet)
I'm surprised at that. I assumed it was like my VPN key and other authentication apps which revolve on a fixed algorithm within itself and doesn't need internet access to change.
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The QR code will require and Internet connection? The club might wish to invest in better (some) WiFi throughout the stadium accessible to the plebs attending. My bit of plastic arrived today so I have three chances of the technology not working. But I’m sure it will … as TrinityOAP said … what could possibly go wrong?
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Got delayed kick off written all over this...fans stuck outside ground
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Please be aware the app QR code does require an internet connection, you can only rely upon the ticket added to your wallet.
Hence the concerns from the club about just how many haven’t been downloaded (yet)
I'm surprised at that. I assumed it was like my VPN key and other authentication apps which revolve on a fixed algorithm within itself and doesn't need internet access to change.
Tried it without WiFi or mobile connection and the code still changes every few minutes, perhaps what they mean is internet connection required to open Villa app itself too access ticket?
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Please be aware the app QR code does require an internet connection, you can only rely upon the ticket added to your wallet.
Hence the concerns from the club about just how many haven’t been downloaded (yet)
I'm surprised at that. I assumed it was like my VPN key and other authentication apps which revolve on a fixed algorithm within itself and doesn't need internet access to change.
Tried it without WiFi or mobile connection and the code still changes every few minutes, perhaps what they mean is internet connection required to open Villa app itself too access ticket?
Could well be this.
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My tickets finally appeared a couple of hours ago. That is what you call truly shit service.
So you received your ticket well before the event. How is that shit service?
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What issues are people having?
I got my email on Wednesday and in season ticket my wallet with absolutely no issues.
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What issues are people having?
Probably the ones mentioned in this thread.
Or read the replies to this (ignore the first few pointless ones from blue tick twats):
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1826934972684304828?t=OKQrMPkJiZVh5cad8PoF0Q&s=19
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What issues are people having?
Probably the ones mentioned in this thread.
You mean the panic about cards not arriving and then arriving and emails not arriving and then arriving. I’ve not got hours to spare reading through it all. It was a genuine question because I read “this has got delayed kick off written all over it” and wondered.
Thanks for the update though.
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What issues are people having?
I got my email on Wednesday and in season ticket my wallet with absolutely no issues.
This thread has morphed into the "Match Thread" over the last few days. Apparently the Club's performance is shambolic so far however there is plenty of evidence pointing the other way.
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"I'm alright, Jack".
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My tickets finally appeared a couple of hours ago. That is what you call truly shit service.
So you received your ticket well before the event. How is that shit service?
"Well before the event". 30 minutes before the ticket office shut down for the day. In any event, we've only got one of the two tickets I bought, as my son's wasn't on the email and hasn't turned up in his app. So yes, absolutely fucking terrible service.
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Sorry, didn't know you needed to leg it to the ticket office after receiving the email.
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I think it’s going to be carnage getting in today.
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Sorry, didn't know you needed to leg it to the ticket office after receiving the email.
Why are you being such a twat? I've now been on hold for 90 minutes trying to sort my son's ticket out.
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Sorry, didn't know you needed to leg it to the ticket office after receiving the email.
Why are you being such a twat? I've now been on hold for 90 minutes trying to sort my son's ticket out.
Sorry to hear that, I hope it gets sorted in the next few minutes.
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Sorry for swearing. It's just that I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to send out the tickets within the timeframe they say, which was supposed to be from Wednesday. If they had done rather than half an hour before they shut for the day the day before the match, I'd have had plenty of time to get it sorted. And then to actually send both of the tickets I've paid for without a stressful hour plus on the phone. My son's done everything suggested like update the app etc, but nothing.
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My Son's email went to an old email address. He'd updated the email on his account a few weeks ago. So it looks like they used a copy of the address's from at least 6 weeks ago.
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You would think service would be better now we are customers, not supporters.
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There were always going to be teething problems and it was inevitable that you'd have thousands of people phoning the ticket office. If they'd just released the tickets even a week earlier, there would have been a tiny fraction of the complaints. If you can't get through to the ticket office but know you can try again in a few days, it's no problem really. If you still can't get through on the day of the actual match, that's much more of an issue.
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Sorry for swearing. It's just that I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to send out the tickets within the timeframe they say, which was supposed to be from Wednesday. If they had done rather than half an hour before they shut for the day the day before the match, I'd have had plenty of time to get it sorted. And then to actually send both of the tickets I've paid for without a stressful hour plus on the phone. My son's done everything suggested like update the app etc, but nothing.
No worries, understand the stress. I suppose I was the classic "I am all right Jack" as all our 3 STs emails arrived within an hour of each other and downloading and into wallet etc went exactly as the club advised. No doubt this was the case in general however it looks as though a few teething issues are there and CD has summed that up.
Anyway please you both are sorted now.
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Went to the WIndies test match at Edgbaston and I just downloaded my tickets into the Ticket section of the Edgbaston App - piss easy.
Struggling to understand the problems going on at Villa.
Has to be something to do with the IT system/software.
And the Edgbaston App has a "How to share a ticket section - a 5 step easy peasy process.
Why can't/haven't/won't Villa do the same?
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Are there phones that don’t have wallets?
Just asking as I put mine straight into Apple Wallet, which I know I won’t need internet for to access - but some folk on here seem concerned about getting onto the internet at the turnstile to go through the app.
I don’t think the club helped by suggesting in the email that the preferred way of loading the ticket was through the app, possibly leading people to think the app is the best option to keep your ticket in.
The club also are claiming as one of the benefits of these NFC (?) tickets is that it makes it quicker to go through the turnstile - but how is it quicker than holding a plastic card against the reader, or even passing over a voucher you’ve ripped out of your season ticket book, surely they’re similar arm actions!
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I tried, following the instructions to download my ticket to the crap app with no luck. Using the email it went straight into my apple wallet.
As I had paid several months ago for the ticket and have not moved seat why were AVFC unable to gradually issue tickets to me and thousands of others by either seating zone or alphabetically from early July onwards avoiding this last minute rush and the ensuing problems.
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Wonder what form the inevitable (and fully deserved) apology will take? Something tangible, I trust*.
The club’s going to have to work hard to make up for the stress, strain and aggro of this pathetic episode of non-customer service.
Whoever's responsible - individually or collectively needs to be held to account and ticket holders should be given a full explanation of the how and why with a full timeline.
ST holder's aren't bothered about premium ticket hospitality offerings or sweet words from Heck on how well things are going commercially.
He needs to front up. The buck stops with him - after all, he's getting paid plenty.
*Suggestion - free entry to one of our Cup games this season? Naah - that would be too much!
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I would expect the vast majority of people have been able to download their ST’s without any problems, albeit a little bit too close to the first game for comfort.
I helped a guy who has the oldest iPhone you could imagine yesterday, and it effortless, even with an old phone.
So, if it downloads for most, with no issues, is it a case of ‘operator’ error for those who can’t get it into their wallet ?
Are club being lambasted for something that’s not their fault ?
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So is getting in reliant on Internet connection?
If so it'll be carnage. I've never had decent reception at Villa Park
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I would expect the vast majority of people have been able to download their ST’s without any problems, albeit a little bit too close to the first game for comfort.
I helped a guy who has the oldest iPhone you could imagine yesterday, and it effortless, even with an old phone.
So, if it downloads for most, with no issues, is it a case of ‘operator’ error for those who can’t get it into their wallet ?
Are club being lambasted for something that’s not their fault ?
This does not address the question of why it was all done so close to the beginning of the season or why in general the app is so crap. The getting from email to wallet is fine as I said.
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I would expect the vast majority of people have been able to download their ST’s without any problems, albeit a little bit too close to the first game for comfort.
I helped a guy who has the oldest iPhone you could imagine yesterday, and it effortless, even with an old phone.
So, if it downloads for most, with no issues, is it a case of ‘operator’ error for those who can’t get it into their wallet ?
Are club being lambasted for something that’s not their fault ?
Customer service means providing goods/products/service that can be used by all of your customers.
That you helped a bloke with an old iPhone is great and I'm sure he's grateful for your support - but if you hadn't been there what would he have done?
The technically smartphone literate will probably be able to manage, but it's pretty obvious from comments on H&V that a lot of fans are having trouble, which begs the question - how much thought and trialling went into these digital STs? Has the club thought about fans who aren't that good with IT and designed the system accordingly?
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I would expect the vast majority of people have been able to download their ST’s without any problems, albeit a little bit too close to the first game for comfort.
I helped a guy who has the oldest iPhone you could imagine yesterday, and it effortless, even with an old phone.
So, if it downloads for most, with no issues, is it a case of ‘operator’ error for those who can’t get it into their wallet ?
Are club being lambasted for something that’s not their fault ?
Customer service means providing goods/products/service that can be used by all of your customers.
That you helped a bloke with an old iPhone is great and I'm sure he's grateful for your support - but if you hadn't been there what would he have done?
The technically smartphone literate will probably be able to manage, but it's pretty obvious from comments on H&V that a lot of fans are having trouble, which begs the question - how much thought and trialling went into these digital STs? Has the club thought about fans who aren't that good with IT and designed the system accordingly?
I’m not arguing against your point, you are right.
But the club can’t be responsible for everyone’s ability to use technology.
The world is changing. Booking appointments, paying for stuff, getting access to venues, banking, paying at Tesco’s……everything is changing.
This is just another one of those things.
I think the only thing the club is guilty of is not pushing out the ST earlier.
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Once I got my email late yesterday afternoon, I didn't have a problem downloading it to my wallet. The ticket appeared in my AV app about the same time. The problem was I didn't get a second email with my son's ticket details, so it couldn't be downloaded. It hadn't, and still hasn't, appeared in his app. I've spent ages on the phone and they finally sent the email, so I could download his ticket to the Apple wallet. It still hasn't appeared in his app, despite it being completely up to date. The club said to phone back nest week if it still doesn't appear.
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I’m not arguing against your point, you are right.
But the club can’t be responsible for everyone’s ability to use technology.
The world is changing. Booking appointments, paying for stuff, getting access to venues, banking, paying at Tesco’s……everything is changing.
This is just another one of those things.
I think the only thing the club is guilty of is not pushing out the ST earlier.
Or not sending the details at all, as in my son's case.
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I’m not arguing against your point, you are right.
But the club can’t be responsible for everyone’s ability to use technology.
The world is changing. Booking appointments, paying for stuff, getting access to venues, banking, paying at Tesco’s……everything is changing.
This is just another one of those things.
I think the only thing the club is guilty of is not pushing out the ST earlier.
Or not sending the details at all, as in my son's case.
I know it’s frustrating and annoying.
But, your son will still be able to get in I guess ?
It’s not that you will be denied entry, and I’m sure that today, of all days, there will be sufficient help on hand at the ground ?
Well, you would hope.
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From my point of view my son who is on holiday in Spain told me not to get a ticket for this game, as I could use his. He has spent 3 days trying to get through to transfer the ticket. No joy. We plan to get a burner phone.
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It's incredibly stupid to only send out the emails for a new system a few days before the game.
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So Risso and son have to travel from Leicester in the hope that someone will let them in, but none of this is in any way anything to do with AVFC.
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It's incredibly stupid to only send out the emails for a new system a few days before the game.
I think everyone agrees with that point
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So Risso and son have to travel from Leicester in the hope that someone will let them in, but none of this is in any way anything to do with AVFC.
Dramatic or what
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So Risso and son have to travel from Leicester in the hope that someone will let them in, but none of this is in any way anything to do with AVFC.
Dramatic or what
Err no - just a statement of fact.
Stressed out and pissed off fans are going to be arriving at B6 6HE today wondering how they're going to get into the ground.
It's all very well "hoping" that they'll be able to do so and the club has some contingencies in place.
Perhaps you'll be able to get there good and early and help them, in the same way you did for the blokecwith the iPhone?
I'm sure they'd all appreciate your assistance
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So Risso and son have to travel from Leicester in the hope that someone will let them in, but none of this is in any way anything to do with AVFC.
Dramatic or what
Err no - just a statement of fact.
Stressed out and pissed off fans are going to be arriving at B6 6HE today wondering how they're going to get into the ground.
It's all very well "hoping" that they'll be able to do so and the club has some contingencies in place.
Perhaps you'll be able to get there good and early and help them, in the same way you did for the blokecwith the iPhone?
I'm sure they'd all appreciate your assistance
Watch those pearls don’t strangle you.
Anyway…. I’m parked off up and off to the ground. hopefully I’ll be able to get in.
I wonder how many horror stories we will read later of the 1000’’s locked out.
Keep us posted
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Not letting anyone in at the moment.
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Queuing back to the pub now. Shambles, as expected. Doors still not open.
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Apparently the problem is that they don't have any stewards.
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From the experience I have had about one in three QR codes work. Mine did but the two in front of me didn't.
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Queue for the Holte End is all the way past the Holte Pub.
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Some kind of electronic failure would have been predictable but not enough stewards????????
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From the experience I have had about one in three QR codes work. Mine did but the two in front of me didn't.
Codes or people taking screenshots like they were train tickets?
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Lower Holte just opened. Tbf - Upper moving with no issues at present. So glad to be standing here to the side with a 4 pack right now!
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Watch those pearls don’t strangle you.
Anyway…. I’m parked off up and off to the ground. hopefully I’ll be able to get in.
I wonder how many horror stories we will read later of the 1000’’s locked out.
Keep us posted
This aged well
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We’ve moved about 10 feet in 15 minutes.
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No mobile phone connection outside and unable to get WiFi until in ground which is very slow
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Sorry but it’s another I am all right Jack post but no issue at all. Queue for upper North a bit more than normal but everything worked perfectly and now sitting comfortably😊
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However looking at the fill rate not sure if they can start at 5.30.
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Doubt I'm making kick off
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Apparently the problem is that they don't have any stewards.
Trinity opened half hour earlier
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Watch those pearls don’t strangle you.
Anyway…. I’m parked off up and off to the ground. hopefully I’ll be able to get in.
I wonder how many horror stories we will read later of the 1000’’s locked out.
Keep us posted
This aged well
Pearls?
Nope - just a bit of common sense risk assessment.
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Fkn shambles. The fact that I expected it is no consolation. Queued for 50 minutes and missed the first 20 mins. CL but still two bob at heart.
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It didn't look great outside at 5:20pm - hundreds stuck in big queues trying to get into the Lower Trinity.
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You could see that the Holte was nowhere near full at kick off, despite them delaying the kick off.
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Oh and nice to see the dozens of empty seats in the lower witton, where they turfed out all the season ticket holders.
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I thought the atmoshpere was practically non-existent today, a bit weird for the first home game against a big team like Arsenal. It didn't help that the ground was a third empty 10 minutes before kick off I guess.
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Oh and nice to see the dozens of empty seats in the lower witton, where they turfed out all the season ticket holders.
That really annoyed me too, mainly thinking of those turfed out - but also for all those who couldn’t get or afford a ticket today. At least the cushioned blue seats won’t have got damaged.
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Oh and nice to see the dozens of empty seats in the lower witton, where they turfed out all the season ticket holders.
That really annoyed me too, mainly thinking of those turfed out - but also for all those who couldn’t get or afford a ticket today. At least the cushioned blue seats won’t have got damaged.
Wonderful team
World class manager
Best average attendances in decades
Impossible to get tickets
And our strategy is to scrap redevelopment in favour of chasing after prawn sandwhich eaters who don't even bother to occupy the seats thousands would dearly love.
This is the problem with Heck. It is so absolutely out of kilter with the DNA of this club.
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So Risso and son have to travel from Leicester in the hope that someone will let them in, but none of this is in any way anything to do with AVFC.
Dramatic or what
Err no - just a statement of fact.
Stressed out and pissed off fans are going to be arriving at B6 6HE today wondering how they're going to get into the ground.
It's all very well "hoping" that they'll be able to do so and the club has some contingencies in place.
Perhaps you'll be able to get there good and early and help them, in the same way you did for the blokecwith the iPhone?
I'm sure they'd all appreciate your assistance
Watch those pearls don’t strangle you.
Anyway…. I’m parked off up and off to the ground. hopefully I’ll be able to get in.
I wonder how many horror stories we will read later of the 1000’’s locked out.
Keep us posted
Did you get in on time?
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Got to our usual entrance for the upper trinity at about 5pm, shorter queues than usual through the turnstiles no problem and at my seat for about 5:15 after watching the TVs for about 5 mins. Was there a problem elsewhere?
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Shocking outside, was in the queue outside Witton Lower P Block at 4.15…got in 5 mins after kick off, absolutely no organisation, queues were free for all with lots of pushing and the potential for trouble when idiots were pushing in. Felt dangerous and unsafe but absolutely no communication to the crowds. If no one was hurt it was a fluke….
As much as I mock the incompetent service in that stand they lost a good deal of revenue.,,.I know it’s only inconvenienced the GA plebs but serious questions should be asked of the lack of organisation, lack of communication and lack of failure planning for the ticketing shambles
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Oh and nice to see the dozens of empty seats in the lower witton, where they turfed out all the season ticket holders.
I sit in the central upper DE.
Today I was bemused as to why so many of what I initially thought were idiots were sitting in the wrong seats for a sell-put game, getting turfed out when the actual seat owners arrived (late, because of the queues outside), moving to the wrong seats again and getting turfed out again.
Anyway, when 3 of these people ended up behind me I asked them what was going on.
When they were turfed out of their season ticket seats in the lower DE to make way for the 150 Club, they decided to move season ticket seats to the DE Upper. These new seats are in row AA. Slight problem - you can't sit in row AA because that's where the cameras are so they've bought seats that don't exist. The stewards told them to just sit anywhere.
Good work Villa!
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Got to my seat in the Lower Holte 15 minutes late after queuing for half an hour.
The stewards said they didn’t know what was going on and there were hundreds behind me.
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Oh and nice to see the dozens of empty seats in the lower witton, where they turfed out all the season ticket holders.
I sit in the central upper DE.
Today I was bemused as to why so many of what I initially thought were idiots were sitting in the wrong seats for a sell-put game, getting turfed out when the actual seat owners arrived (late, because of the queues outside), moving to the wrong seats again and getting turfed out again.
Anyway, when 3 of these people ended up behind me I asked them what was going on.
When they were turfed out of their season ticket seats in the lower DE to make way for the 150 Club, they decided to move season ticket seats to the DE Upper. These new seats are in row AA. Slight problem - you can't sit in row AA because that's where the cameras are so they've bought seats that don't exist. The stewards told them to just sit anywhere.
Good work Villa!
Wow ! That’s ridiculous
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My digital card arrived at 09:11 hours this morning . Talk about cutting it fine . Didn't matter though as I have the physical ST too.
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Oh, and when I eventually got to my seat, there was someone sitting in it. He moved without protest but he and his mates said that the seats shown on their tickets didn’t exist anymore.
Outside I spoke to one of the stewards with a K badge. He said that his company usually organises the turnstile operations but this season Villa had decided to do things themselves - or at least attempt to.
Let’s hope this is sorted out for future matches.
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Queued up for about half a hour, got in 10 minutes late and then had to paddle through piss from the overflowing urinals in the lower Holte. £130 for an adult and under 21! Fucking shambles!!! Just got home.
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Has there been any explanation or apology issued by the club? Or is the usual level of contempt for the GA’s? We should be grateful that they let us queue up outside
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Got to our usual entrance for the upper trinity at about 5pm, shorter queues than usual through the turnstiles no problem and at my seat for about 5:15 after watching the TVs for about 5 mins. Was there a problem elsewhere?
total shit show Witton Lane, arrived 1 hour before kick off missed the first 15 minutes, despite being told by some posters there was nothing to worry about.
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Been going since the mid 80's and season ticket holder for many a long year too. I thought the whole "experience" today was a total shit show from start to finish. I'm generally against us moving from Villa Park......but I really don't think this stadium is fit for purpose anymore.
Oh and to top it off they have now changed the beer in the stadium you got a choice of Carlsberg, Carlsberg or errrr Carlsberg.
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Got to our usual entrance for the upper trinity at about 5pm, shorter queues than usual through the turnstiles no problem and at my seat for about 5:15 after watching the TVs for about 5 mins. Was there a problem elsewhere?
total shit show Witton Lane, arrived 1 hour before kick off missed the first 15 minutes, despite being told by some posters there was nothing to worry about.
I arrived for gate P of the Witton an hour before kickoff.
The queues and crowds were huge.
But, I was in the ground within 30 mins.
We knew it was going to be carnage, but everyone said it was because the new ticketing system would be the problem, whereas in fact, the problem was due to most entry gates not opening till 4:35 becuse of lack of stewards.
The ground was pretty full at 5:30 so the ticketing system was obviously working..
And I’m not being dismissive about the people who experienced problems with uploading or using their tickets. Of course it’s frustrating and annoying.
We all agree the club should have sent them weeks ago, but, yesterday’s fiasco was about gates not being open, not the technology.
If we expect an apology from the club, I think we might be waiting a long time.
I’d go so far as to say they might br a little pleased with themselves this morning.
They went ‘big bang’ on a brand new system, got off to a rocky start, and still had over 40k in the stadium by kick off time.
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Queued up for about half a hour, got in 10 minutes late and then had to paddle through piss from the overflowing urinals in the lower Holte. £130 for an adult and under 21! Fucking shambles!!! Just got home.
We got to the ground about 4.20ish and none of the turnstiles on the Witton Road or Holte were open. They opened about 4.30 and we were in about 20 mins later. It wasn’t, but could of been dangerous with that many people trying to get in at the same time. Considering we were amongst the first tranche of supporters in the lower Holte, how the urinals were over flowing with piss by about 4.50pm beggers belief really and looked scabby as anything.
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Sounds like a absolute shambles. Dont know who is responsible but that is nkt a good way to treat people who are paying a lot of money to come watch games
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Due to cancelled trains (animals on the line ffs) and traffic problems on M6 I arrived at the Doug stand at 5.35 there were still big queues waiting to get in but not in M block so straight in
we downloaded the ST’s (3) to various wallets and they all worked so pleased with that
looks like we might have picked the right game to be late for
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Got to our usual entrance for the upper trinity at about 5pm, shorter queues than usual through the turnstiles no problem and at my seat for about 5:15 after watching the TVs for about 5 mins. Was there a problem elsewhere?
total shit show Witton Lane, arrived 1 hour before kick off missed the first 15 minutes, despite being told by some posters there was nothing to worry about.
I arrived for gate P of the Witton an hour before kickoff.
The queues and crowds were huge.
But, I was in the ground within 30 mins.
We knew it was going to be carnage, but everyone said it was because the new ticketing system would be the problem, whereas in fact, the problem was due to most entry gates not opening till 4:35 becuse of lack of stewards.
The ground was pretty full at 5:30 so the ticketing system was obviously working..
And I’m not being dismissive about the people who experienced problems with uploading or using their tickets. Of course it’s frustrating and annoying.
We all agree the club should have sent them weeks ago, but, yesterday’s fiasco was about gates not being open, not the technology.
If we expect an apology from the club, I think we might be waiting a long time.
I’d go so far as to say they might br a little pleased with themselves this morning.
They went ‘big bang’ on a brand new system, got off to a rocky start, and still had over 40k in the stadium by kick off time.
The gates were open but the technology was failing to work in the way they'd told us it would, certainly in the queue I was in.
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Got to our usual entrance for the upper trinity at about 5pm, shorter queues than usual through the turnstiles no problem and at my seat for about 5:15 after watching the TVs for about 5 mins. Was there a problem elsewhere?
total shit show Witton Lane, arrived 1 hour before kick off missed the first 15 minutes, despite being told by some posters there was nothing to worry about.
I arrived for gate P of the Witton an hour before kickoff.
The queues and crowds were huge.
But, I was in the ground within 30 mins.
We knew it was going to be carnage, but everyone said it was because the new ticketing system would be the problem, whereas in fact, the problem was due to most entry gates not opening till 4:35 becuse of lack of stewards.
The ground was pretty full at 5:30 so the ticketing system was obviously working..
And I’m not being dismissive about the people who experienced problems with uploading or using their tickets. Of course it’s frustrating and annoying.
We all agree the club should have sent them weeks ago, but, yesterday’s fiasco was about gates not being open, not the technology.
If we expect an apology from the club, I think we might be waiting a long time.
I’d go so far as to say they might br a little pleased with themselves this morning.
They went ‘big bang’ on a brand new system, got off to a rocky start, and still had over 40k in the stadium by kick off time.
The gates were open but the technology was failing to work in the way they'd told us it would, certainly in the queue I was in.
Snap-was an absolute farce
When it works the turnstiles will be better than previous ones but in the queue I was in it was 50/50 for working not working
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
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I’d go so far as to say they might br a little pleased with themselves this morning
They probably didn’t hear a couple of thousand Villa fans singing “what they fuck is going on” outside the ground at 5.40. Lucky it wasn’t raining or there wasn’t an early goal or the fans stuck in queues and missing the game would probably have been less good humoured
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The queues were enormous on the Trinty Road. Had to queue for about 10 minutes at the top of the Holte steps.
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
Have you got a part time job as Chief of Propaganda for the club? Not even Chris Heck himself would go to these embarrassing lengths to defend the club, and blame the fans.
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Also, the lack of stewards wasn’t an act of god beyond the control of the club.
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
Was a mixture, in front of me there were 2 that needed that diagram, 1 whose plastic card didn’t work and 1 who had to be let through because the turnstile wouldn’t acknowledge the wallet.
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Probably would have helped if when a guy in front of me was having difficulty with his ticket there had been someone there to assist, rather than two security people in high viz jackets simply giving him vacant expressions.
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Took me over half hour into Witton Lane Upper which meant I missed the (delayed) kick off. There were several hundred, if not thousands, still on Witton Lane when I got in. Queue was far too slow moving. Not sure where the blame lies but not good enough.
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I’ve defended the club quite a lot on this thread, but what happened yesterday was disgusting. I think the club can identify time of entry and anyone who couldn’t get in before ko should get a significant part refund.
Tbh I still don’t think it would have made any difference if the tickets were emailed weeks earlier or not, but even so this shambles cannot be repeated.
As for swimming in piss in the Holte toilets, that’s an easy fix but still unacceptable.
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
Have you got a part time job as Chief of Propaganda for the club? Not even Chris Heck himself would go to these embarrassing lengths to defend the club, and blame the fans.
Whatever.
I’m not ‘blaming the fans’.
I’m saying that if a few people hold up the queue becuse they can’t hold their phones properly, then that’s going to have a massive knock on effect with the rest of queue.
The fact the gates weren’t open earlier, is a massive fuck up by the club and it could have turned serious or nasty. That’s a massive issue they need to make sure never happens again.
But however you cut it, the season ticket NFC technology works, which was many people’s worry.
It is the organisation and late opening of the gates which was a shitshow.
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Ooops. Double,post
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A guy in front of me in trying to get in the upper Holte let his 7 year old go through first no problem but his phone didn't seem to work. Kid was crying. We had to tell stewards what was happening and make sure they looked the child. It seemed about 1 in 3 were having problems at the scanner.
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I thought the atmoshpere was practically non-existent today, a bit weird for the first home game against a big team like Arsenal. It didn't help that the ground was a third empty 10 minutes before kick off I guess.
I don’t know how you can say that. At times it was hurting my ears in the Holte upper.
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I thought the atmoshpere was practically non-existent today, a bit weird for the first home game against a big team like Arsenal. It didn't help that the ground was a third empty 10 minutes before kick off I guess.
I don’t know how you can say that. At times it was hurting my ears in the Holte upper.
The atmosphere was incredible at times. I think the safe standing has made it even better.
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
Serious answer - I work in technology mate and have used these things many times before. They failed, showed as access denied, and we had to generate the code instead.
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Serious question……did the technology fail, were the card readers genuinely not working, or was it the person trying to get in ?
Genuinely, the guy in front on me couldn’t get the reader to read his phone, he held the queue up for about a minute.
It was because he was holding his phone the wrong way round DESPITE being told hold how to present his phone to the reader.
Multiply that by 20 or 30 people out of few hundred at each gate and there’s the problem.
They should have a clear diagram outside the entry door showing how to present your phone to reader, that would help.
Serious answer - I work in technology mate and have used these things many times before. They failed, showed as access denied, and we had to generate the code instead.
Me too Lee. So we know that there are always issues on a new rollout. I’d argue that 90% had their phones read correctly, first time, so as far as results are concerned, that’s a pass.
But, the real world experience of waiting in massive queues is crap and horrible and scary for some.
They need to get ALL of the gates open earlier to prevent a massive build up and backlog of crowds like yesterday.
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I had to switch to the QR Code too. Last week I just needed to tap my phone generally in the direction of the reader to get in. Didn't seem to work this time, so reverted to the code.
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The game kicked off bout 5 mins late , was it linked to the queues outside .
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I had to switch to the QR Code too. Last week I just needed to tap my phone generally in the direction of the reader to get in. Didn't seem to work this time, so reverted to the code.
Is that the QR code that’s on the membership,card in the app ?
So is that like a backup up way of getting in if the ST doesn’t read ?
If so, I didn’t know that and wondered why we had that QR code thing.
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No, in the wallet. There's a button at the bottom below your season ticket that says show code.
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Two lads in front of me one tapped his phone and went through and the other one tried the same and didn't work, he then inserted his phone into the reader and worked no problem.I tried my phone for internet connection but couldn't get any at all including WiFi to see if it would work,luckily I have the season ticket card
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I had to switch to the QR Code too. Last week I just needed to tap my phone generally in the direction of the reader to get in. Didn't seem to work this time, so reverted to the code.
Is that the QR code that’s on the membership,card in the app ?
So is that like a backup up way of getting in if the ST doesn’t read ?
If so, I didn’t know that and wondered why we had that QR code thing.
Not speaking for Ads but no, the option is in the wallet itself.
Last week there were no issues using the same tech in a stadium holding 50% more people, and I've never had an issue at gigs using the same tech and handset.
If I'd have been part of rolling this project out I would expect to be on a very angry, finger pointing Teams meeting tomorrow morning.
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The game kicked off bout 5 mins late , was it linked to the queues outside .
No,apparently the comms weren't working between the ref and the fourth official.
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Hope this is not going to be a regular occurrence. I fear that it might be
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I had to switch to the QR Code too. Last week I just needed to tap my phone generally in the direction of the reader to get in. Didn't seem to work this time, so reverted to the code.
Is that the QR code that’s on the membership,card in the app ?
So is that like a backup up way of getting in if the ST doesn’t read ?
If so, I didn’t know that and wondered why we had that QR code thing.
Not speaking for Ads but no, the option is in the wallet itself.
Last week there were no issues using the same tech in a stadium holding 50% more people, and I've never had an issue at gigs using the same tech and handset.
If I'd have been part of rolling this project out I would expect to be on a very angry, finger pointing Teams meeting tomorrow morning.
Well, maybe if the GA+ and premium 'customers' were affected but when it comes to us plebs its more likely nothing will happen and Heck will be doing more PR saying how wonderful it was to be back and how all the things he is overseeing are the envy of the league yada yada yada.
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The GA+ people will be affected, as they're just sitting in the normal stands, ie Holte or Trinity mostly.
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Haven't they got their own fancy entrances though?
I assume the empty seats in the North upper were part of "The Cells" offering
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so am I getting this right
there were season ticket holders who lost there regular seat and moved elsewhere to accommodate a new semi- corporate supporter experience for those who can afford it
but they didn’t sell all the seats in the new corporate area so they remained unsold and empty ?
I’m only asking for clarification because I can’t believe it happened
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Correct John, but not semi corporate it was the full hospitality seats that look like they didn’t sell.
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Correct John, but not semi corporate it was the full hospitality seats that look like they didn’t sell.
Ok thanks
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I had to switch to the QR Code too. Last week I just needed to tap my phone generally in the direction of the reader to get in. Didn't seem to work this time, so reverted to the code.
Is that the QR code that’s on the membership,card in the app ?
So is that like a backup up way of getting in if the ST doesn’t read ?
If so, I didn’t know that and wondered why we had that QR code thing.
Not speaking for Ads but no, the option is in the wallet itself.
Last week there were no issues using the same tech in a stadium holding 50% more people, and I've never had an issue at gigs using the same tech and handset.
If I'd have been part of rolling this project out I would expect to be on a very angry, finger pointing Teams meeting tomorrow morning.
Ahhhh, found it. Thanks. I didn’t know about that backup option
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Haven't they got their own fancy entrances though?
I assume the empty seats in the North upper were part of "The Cells" offering
We are in T3 row W right in the centre. We were pushed up a row and slightly to the left as result of "adjustments" and it's all good. However there were no empty seats around us but noted that lot of regulars had not turned up this season, which is a shame.
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Haven't they got their own fancy entrances though?
I assume the empty seats in the North upper were part of "The Cells" offering
We are in T3 row W right in the centre. We were pushed up a row and slightly to the left as result of "adjustments" and it's all good. However there were no empty seats around us but noted that lot of regulars had not turned up this season, which is a shame.
Yeah, none of the usual faces were round by us either, unless they were all in their holibobs.
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There were quite a lot of supporters, well I counted half a dozen who had gone to the trouble of getting t shirts printed saying
Who the HECK stole my seat
as it happened it was obvious who the culprits were as they were all wearing half/half scarves
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so am I getting this right
there were season ticket holders who lost there regular seat and moved elsewhere to accommodate a new semi- corporate supporter experience for those who can afford it
but they didn’t sell all the seats in the new corporate area so they remained unsold and empty ?
I’m only asking for clarification because I can’t believe it happened
And of those people who lost their regular seat, many have been sold new season tickers in the DE Upper that don't exist because that's where people were kicked out years ago when they moved the TV cameras. And they only found out when they tried to find their seats.
I spoke to 3 people at the game who had been booted out of their lower DE season tickets and then bought DE upper row AA which doesn't exist anymore, and there is a guy on another forum with the same story but bought a new season ticket in row BB which doesn't exist anymore.
They all kept moving to unoccupied seats and being booted out when the seat owners arrived late because of the queues outside.
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I had two tickets on one phone in Google Wallet. I tapped in, went through then reached back to tap in my mate. No hassle.
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Haven't they got their own fancy entrances though?
I assume the empty seats in the North upper were part of "The Cells" offering
We are in T3 row W right in the centre. We were pushed up a row and slightly to the left as result of "adjustments" and it's all good. However there were no empty seats around us but noted that lot of regulars had not turned up this season, which is a shame.
There was a visible group of empty seats towards the away end.
What happened in Witton Lane sounds worse. It might only affect a relatively small number of people but it beggars belief they were sold seats that don't exist.
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Is this chaos all part of a cunning plan by Heck to force fans to get to the ground earlier and once inside spend more money quaffing pints of crap larger and so fill up the toilet troughs.
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Is this chaos all part of a cunning plan by Heck to force fans to get to the ground earlier and once inside spend more money quaffing pints of crap larger and so fill up the toilet troughs.
No matter how early you get to the ground there’s no point if you can’t get in
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Was the problem that everyone had a smart phone, downloaded into their wallet BUT not every smartphone has NFC?
If it hasn't NFC then I assume you have to show the bar code to gain entry?
Surely the people on the gate knew this problem though!
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Was the problem that everyone had a smart phone, downloaded into their wallet BUT not every smartphone has NFC?
If it hasn't NFC then I assume you have to show the bar code to gain entry?
Surely the people on the gate knew this problem though!
In the que I was in for the lower holte most with smartphones got in no problem, the issue was the turnstiles not being opened till about 4.40
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At the Witton Lane, despite queues running into hundreds at all the turnstiles there was often one steward patting people down (waste of time that is anyway) and taking all the time in the world. That slowed things down further. Can they not just employ more staff and move down the queue to speed things up. The whole crowd management thing is unbelievably amateurish.
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The queues were enormous on the Trinty Road. Had to queue for about 10 minutes at the top of the Holte steps.
The TR queues were made worse by that scaffolding, which made it look like some of the turnstiles weren't open.
Therefore, most people were queuing back down the steps.
I walked along the fence and went straight in at the far turnstile
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That wasn't the problem on Witton Lane (late opening turnstiles).
The queues hardly moved until 10 minutes before kick off because people weren't getting in.
It seemed like the turnstile operators had then finally got a message to override the turnstiles if there was a problem.
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My ticket didn't scan. Not sure what I did wrong. A man on the door grabbed phone off me and tried it but couldn't get it to work either so he told them just to wave me through.
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At the Witton Lane, despite queues running into hundreds at all the turnstiles there was often one steward patting people down (waste of time that is anyway) and taking all the time in the world. That slowed things down further. Can they not just employ more staff and move down the queue to speed things up. The whole crowd management thing is unbelievably amateurish.
It always amuses me when they pay down my 97 year old dad. What do they think he’s bringing into the ground?
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My ticket didn't scan. Not sure what I did wrong.
I bet despite good advice you swapped hand holding the phone at the last minute?
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It always amuses me when they pay down my 97 year old dad. What do they think he’s bringing into the ground?
Knowledge, wisdom, experience and a whole lot of history. Not under allowed by Heck!
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The Trinity queues were a free for all. Little security checks and lots of queue jumping.
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My ticket didn't scan. Not sure what I did wrong.
I bet despite good advice you swapped hand holding the phone at the last minute?
I couldn't remember which hand I'd last touched it with so carried it between my toes to be on the safe side.
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You've got to hold your phone the right way up so that it can be read?
What an absolute load of bollocks.
There are defenders of modern IT on the forum who claim it will solve all the world's problems and wax lyrical about how marvellous it is at Tescos and elsewhere.
But I don't recall having to hold whatever it is I'm trying to scan at the checkout in a particular way for the barcode to be read.
Ditto at New Street with QR codes for tickets.
So what sort of system have Villa installed?
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Heck will acclaim it as cutting edge state of the art and the envy of all other clubs.
Come to think of it I have never seen him in the same room as Trump.
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You've got to hold your phone the right way up so that it can be read?
What an absolute load of bollocks.
There are defenders of modern IT on the forum who claim it will solve all the world's problems and wax lyrical about how marvellous it is at Tescos and elsewhere.
But I don't recall having to hold whatever it is I'm trying to scan at the checkout in a particular way for the barcode to be read.
Ditto at New Street with QR codes for tickets.
So what sort of system have Villa installed?
That's not necessarily true as if you don't hold the QR code to the reader it won't scan lol
I didn't go yesterday as I'm on holiday but what confused me was their instructions they said to open you Google / apple wallet and have your ticket showing to scan in (causing people the unlock the scroll to the wallet etc..) which will cause a hold up. All you need to do is have your NFC on and tap the reader and it'll let you in. That's all I did for the European games last season and it worked fine. IMO Villas instructions were poor and more than likely played a part in the queues before the game
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Sorry to piss on anyone’s chips, but the club issued instructions on how to present your phone to the reader at the turnstiles.
Maybe it isn’t absolute bollocks afterall.
People struggle with the simplest of things, even in Tescos..
Below is from the the instructions issued by club.i
How do I use an NFC ticket?
When you arrive at the stadium, access your ticket via Apple Wallet or Google Wallet, and hold your phone, screen facing towards you, against the contactless reader at the top of the turnstile reader. Please make sure your phone isn't locked when you hold it against the reader, if you have any problems, you may just need unlock your phone and try again. Please note, each ticket is single-use and cannot be transferred after entering the stadium.
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Sorry to piss on anyone’s chips, but the club issued instructions on how to present your phone to the reader at the turnstiles.
Maybe it isn’t absolute bollocks afterall.
People struggle with the simplest of things, even in Tescos..
Below is from the the instructions issued by club.i
How do I use an NFC ticket?
When you arrive at the stadium, access your ticket via Apple Wallet or Google Wallet, and hold your phone, screen facing towards you, against the contactless reader at the top of the turnstile reader. Please make sure your phone isn't locked when you hold it against the reader, if you have any problems, you may just need unlock your phone and try again. Please note, each ticket is single-use and cannot be transferred after entering the stadium.
And their lies the problem, screen facing the reader, I think only Sony phones have their NFC and the front of the phone (might have changed now though not had a Sony since the Xperia z3) every other phone has the NFC chip at the rear on the phone so you'd need to present the rear of the phone to the reader.
Also opening the ticket on the wallet is only needed for people who have multiple tickets in a single wallet.
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I presented my phone the same way I did at West Ham the week before, at the Co-op a few days before that
The NFC reader wasn't working for my turnstile in the upper Holte.
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Screen facing toward you, is the instruction.
But yes, that’s the issue.
If it takes a minute or two to work out the way to present your phone, then it locks and you start again.
It all adds to the delays.
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The game kicked off bout 5 mins late , was it linked to the queues outside .
No,apparently the comms weren't working between the ref and the fourth official.
...which wasn't rectified until part way through the first half. This was after one of the Arsenal players tried to remove SJM's shirt. If the 4th had wanted to notify the Ref he wouldn't have been able to.
The Ref was still doing coms checks with his colleagues during one of the (many) injury breaks
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Sorry to piss on anyone’s chips, but the club issued instructions on how to present your phone to the reader at the turnstiles.
Maybe it isn’t absolute bollocks afterall.
People struggle with the simplest of things, even in Tescos..
Below is from the the instructions issued by club.i
How do I use an NFC ticket?
When you arrive at the stadium, access your ticket via Apple Wallet or Google Wallet, and hold your phone, screen facing towards you, against the contactless reader at the top of the turnstile reader. Please make sure your phone isn't locked when you hold it against the reader, if you have any problems, you may just need unlock your phone and try again. Please note, each ticket is single-use and cannot be transferred after entering the stadium.
Which is what I initially did, but nothing happened. However, after turning the phone the opposite way round (ie screen to the reader)...it worked no problem
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https://x.com/VillansOnTour/status/1827445388376207668 (https://x.com/VillansOnTour/status/1827445388376207668)
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We know what piss looks like. Not sure anyone feels the need to film it.
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
Mine has expired too
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Is there any way to permanently get rid of the "make Google Wallet your default form of payment" box that pops up every time I open the app? I always say no, it always comes back.
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
Mine has expired too
I was assuming it would stay there all season, hope we don't have to keep adding that for each game.
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
Mine has expired too
I was assuming it would stay there all season, hope we don't have to keep adding that for each game.
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It is disgusting that 24+ hours later there still appears to be no word from Villa on the shambles that they presided over yesterday.
They’d have been all over social media had we won the game so the should be all over it explaining and apologising.
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
Mine has expired too
I was assuming it would stay there all season, hope we don't have to keep adding that for each game.
Just looked, mine has also gone.
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I noticed my season ticket has expired in my Apple wallet has that happened to anyone else?
Mine has expired too
I was assuming it would stay there all season, hope we don't have to keep adding that for each game.
Just looked, mine has also gone.
Just checked mines in ‘expired passes’ now too…presume that is something to do with QR codes expiring game by game….either that or Heck has checked my Twitter messages @‘ing him
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Went into “expired passes” then “unhide” and it has reappeared. Will this happen after each game?
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Last year, my season ticket didn’t expire.
You can’t re-add it because it is already there.
And unhiding it won’t make it unexpire.
I haven’t had a smart phone very long, but I smell another fuck up.
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You all on Apple? Not got this issue with my Samsung.
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You all on Apple? Not got this issue with my Samsung.
I am
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Just checked, mine is still in my apple wallet
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Mine had expired but I’ve unhidden it and it’s back.
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I keep getting update notifications.
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Mine had expired but I’ve unhidden it and it’s back.
But surely it is still expired? I think the Apple wallet hides expired passes by default. You may now be able to see it, but it doesn’t make it any less expired.
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Mine had expired but I’ve unhidden it and it’s back.
But surely it is still expired? I think the Apple wallet hides expired passes by default. You may now be able to see it, but it doesn’t make it any less expired.
Who knows but I’ve just re added it from the app. I used the digital ticket most of last season with no issues so I’m not foreseeing any major problems. If it keeps expiring in the wallet and I have to re add from the app each time so be it.
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Mine had expired but I’ve unhidden it and it’s back.
But surely it is still expired? I think the Apple wallet hides expired passes by default. You may now be able to see it, but it doesn’t make it any less expired.
Who knows but I’ve just re added it from the app. I used the digital ticket most of last season with no issues so I’m not foreseeing any major problems. If it keeps expiring in the wallet and I have to re add from the app each time so be it.
Ok thanks. deleting it from the wallet and then re-adding it from the app seems to fix it. It says that the season-ticket was updated yesterday, so hopefully it won’t expire again
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Mine had expired but I’ve unhidden it and it’s back.
But surely it is still expired? I think the Apple wallet hides expired passes by default. You may now be able to see it, but it doesn’t make it any less expired.
Who knows but I’ve just re added it from the app. I used the digital ticket most of last season with no issues so I’m not foreseeing any major problems. If it keeps expiring in the wallet and I have to re add from the app each time so be it.
Ok thanks. deleting it from the wallet and then re-adding it from the app seems to fix it. It says that the season-ticket was updated yesterday, so hopefully it won’t expire again
This is probably why the club were recommending adding to the Wallet from the app rather than direct from the email we got. I’m sure it’ll settle down in time but teething problems is sounding a bit of an understatement .
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I presume that when it’s updated for the next home game it becomes valid and ‘unexpired’ and will therefore reappear in the wallet ?
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I presume that when it’s updated for the next home game it becomes valid and ‘unexpired’ and will therefore reappear in the wallet ?
That’s not how it worked last year. It never expired. I don’t think this should’ve happened
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I presume that when it’s updated for the next home game it becomes valid and ‘unexpired’ and will therefore reappear in the wallet ?
That was my presumption too…a refresh per use maybe
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Wading through 1" of piss is unacceptable and the club need to get this sorted or be brought to account . Animals are treated better .
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We know what piss looks like. Not sure anyone feels the need to film it.
Pisspoor is what it it is.
But you carry on, sucking corporate dick.
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On iPhone and not expired at all. However STs were updated late on Saturday night.
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We know what piss looks like. Not sure anyone feels the need to film it.
Pisspoor is what it it is.
But you carry on, sucking corporate dick.
I beg your pardon?
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We know what piss looks like. Not sure anyone feels the need to film it.
Pisspoor is what it it is.
But you carry on, sucking corporate dick.
Less of that, please.
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Ah yes, that’ll be CD, notoriously a lackey of capitalism on this site.
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I understand the need to highlight the rivers of piss problem but I wouldn't be walking around the bogs filming it while everyone is having a slash (I had a long, seemingly endless slash in B2 but the rivers had not yet formed). I definitely did my bit though.
This reminds me of the irate old ladies that post photos of steaming dog turds* on our community Facebook page. They mean well by highlighting a problem but we don't need to see the pics
*Any Blues photos are immediately deleted.
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Some final thoughts/observations on the ST shenanigans.
If our first match of the season had been at home and not away at Spam, I presume that the emails would have had to have been sent out on Wednesday 14th?
So why weren't they?
That would have given everyone on extra week to get things sorted and eased the pressure on the ticket office.
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Ah yes, that’ll be CD, notoriously a lackey of capitalism on this site.
Big mates with Musk. ;)
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Can anyone remind me of the email addresses of the fan complaints and the supporter liaison officer please?
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This is from the Cub / Claret members thread -
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk
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Thanks
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Which is what I initially did, but nothing happened. However, after turning the phone the opposite way round (ie screen to the reader)...it worked no problem
Mine was the opposite: presented the screen to the reader, nothing; flipped it round and 'bingo'!
And, on my Google Pixel the ticket is still in the wallet ready for next time.
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Sooner we introduce season ticket Voucher books the better. Much better technology.
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Sooner we introduce season ticket Voucher books the better. Much better technology.
The club shop could then sell a variety of official, club branded covers for supporters to purchase thus generating an additional income stream .
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Email sent to fan complaints - waited a couple of days to calm down and be considered but got more vexed by the club not even appearing to acknowledge there had been a problem so was still typing angry :-)
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Email sent to fan complaints - waited a couple of days to calm down and be considered but got more vexed by the club not even appearing to acknowledge there had been a problem so was still typing angry :-)
And rightly so.
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Copy in Heck as well: christopher.heck@avfc.co.uk
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Copy in Heck as well: christopher.heck@avfc.co.uk
This is good advice. Whenever I complain to shite companies I always cc the CEO (I know Heck isn't the CEO, but it's his fault). It always resolves the issue quite quickly.
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Copy in Heck as well: christopher.heck@avfc.co.uk
Bounced
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Copy in Heck as well: christopher.heck@avfc.co.uk
This is good advice. Whenever I complain to shite companies I always cc the CEO (I know Heck isn't the CEO, but it's his fault). It always resolves the issue quite quickly.
Not so sure of including Heck as I could see a scenario where your season ticket could mysteriously be unavailable next year.
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Just to rub salt in the wounds.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/august/27/Ticketing-details-for-2024-25/
prAVda banging on about tickets for future games.
No mention of Saturday’s debacle outside and inside the ground, the cause(s) or what's being done to prevent a reoccurrence.
It's almost Soviet in the way the club seems to be operating - if we don't mention or acknowledge it - then it never happened.
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They should apologise and that apology shouldn't be a drinks voucher you can't be bothered to queue for. But the club continuing to operate by selling match tickets shouldn't be an excuse to lose one's mind.
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Copy in Heck as well: christopher.heck@avfc.co.uk
This is good advice. Whenever I complain to shite companies I always cc the CEO (I know Heck isn't the CEO, but it's his fault). It always resolves the issue quite quickly.
Not so sure of including Heck as I could see a scenario where your season ticket could mysteriously be unavailable next year.
Heck's clearly seen as a successful operator by NSWE which is why they brought him in from Philly. But I don't know that many people who've risen to the top by being nice.
I've got several email addresses that I use whenever I want to complain anonymously. ST holders might want to consider getting one if they want to fire off an inventive laden complaint.
By responding to the problems as they have - without an acknowledgement or apology to GA supporters it's 100% certain that goodwill towards the club will fast disappear, quicker than urine down a properly functioning bog
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Nobody is reading a sweary email rant of complaint and doing anything but laughing at you.
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This is from the Cub / Claret members thread -
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk
It's a waste of time emailing fan complaints, when I did they replied to me with an answer that was nothing to do with the complaint that I made and when I replied with saying I'm not sure what email they were replying to because it certainly wasn't replying to the one I sent I've had no reply back
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Nobody is reading a sweary email rant of complaint and doing anything but laughing at you.
Especially the people monitoring the complaint account. They can't help you anyway. Go way above their heads, don't swear and demonstrate that you're at least as clever as they are.
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Nobody is reading a sweary email rant of complaint and doing anything but laughing at you.
Especially the people monitoring the complaint account. They can't help you anyway. Go way above their heads, don't swear and demonstrate that you're at least as clever as they are.
Complaints never go very far if they think they have someone to replace you.
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Received email from AVFC @ 15:50hrs ..their response:
Aston Villa
CAZOO
Aston Villa Football Club are aware of the issues faced by supporters during Saturday’s opening home game of the season against Arsenal.
The club have spent the last 48 hours investigating these issues and will spend the coming weeks ensuring they do not impact fans’ matchday experience in the future.
Regarding the difficulties with access to the stadium, we will be working on solutions to ensure each and every fan is able to use our updated ticketing technology efficiently upon arrival to Villa Park.
We have made it a top priority to resolve the problems involving public toilets and queuing within concourses.
The club will be communicating directly with fans once changes are made and processes are improved.
You have received this email as Aston Villa vs Arsenal ticket purchaser.
© Copyright Aston Villa Football Club Ltd. All rights reserved.
This email was sent by: Aston Villa Football Club, Villa Park, Birmingham, B6 6HE.
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
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Does it really state CAZOO at the beginning ?
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Does it really state CAZOO at the beginning ?
My email from them doesn't
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In answer to Failsworthvillan, using IPad ,email received, “select all” “copy”: the Cazoo was pasted as above, although you don’t see it in the email? . One for an IT to answer? Embedded into AVFC header?
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I thought maybe Cazoo was your real name and they were addressing you directly. Are you sure Cazoo isn't your name?
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I thought maybe Cazoo was your real name and they were addressing you directly. Are you sure Cazoo isn't your name?
It will be now
Bostongbboy - AKA Cazoo
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Having just read the non apology from AVFC I was surprised to see that there are public toilets available.
Paying several hundred pounds a year to access Villa Park I did not realise these facilities are available to the public. Next time I am passing the stadium I might nip in for a casual piss.
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Having just read the non apology from AVFC I was surprised to see that there are public toilets available.
Paying several hundred pounds a year to access Villa Park I did not realise these facilities are available to the public. Next time I am passing the stadium I might nip in for a casual piss.
Take your wellies or waders if you do
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Anybody know how you automatically purchase cup tickets for ST holders
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Anybody know how you automatically purchase cup tickets for ST holders
The option should be available when you go into your digital account.
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Anybody know how you automatically purchase cup tickets for ST holders
What cup tickets mate
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Anybody know how you automatically purchase cup tickets for ST holders
I’m pretty sure there was a box to tick when renewing STs. Just hoping that I did so
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A bit off topic but ……
Before the season started I downloaded from Pravda the fixtures for this season on to my iPad and iPhone.
Today all games after the Leicester match have disappeared. I have gone back to Pravda and done the download again and still no fixtures, anyone else had this happen?
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A bit off topic but ……
Before the season started I downloaded from Pravda the fixtures for this season on to my iPad and iPhone.
Today all games after the Leicester match have disappeared. I have gone back to Pravda and done the download again and still no fixtures, anyone else had this happen?
Just checked and yes gone from my calendar too. I imagine it’s while they negotiate any fixtures that need moving for European fixtures - both ours and upcoming opponents who are also involved.
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They’re probably updating the list with the Champions League Fixtures so I imagine it’ll be back soon. I’ve never seen them do it this way before though, the European Fixtures usually just appear.
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And just like that the fixtures have reappeared without the CL games.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
Thanks for that. Unfortunately though, he hasn't.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
Thanks for that. Unfortunately though, he hasn't.
I think anyone can apply for a fan ID, but don’t hold me to that.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
Thanks for that. Unfortunately though, he hasn't.
Just get him to sign up for one on the website.
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Cheers.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
Thanks for that. Unfortunately though, he hasn't.
It’s really easy to set one up but you will need his email, actual address & DOB. I believe you can actually do it online but I’ve never worked out how! If you call them they will take you through it.
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I'm missing the Everton game. Is there any way I can pass my ST to a mate?
Has he got a fan ID? If so, call the ticket office and they will transfer it to him for that game.
Thanks for that. Unfortunately though, he hasn't.
It’s really easy to set one up but you will need his email, actual address & DOB. I believe you can actually do it online but I’ve never worked out how! If you call them they will take you through it.
Or he could download your season ticket on to his phone
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Thanks for all your advice, appreciated
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CL games now appeared on fixtures
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How did things turn out for those shifted a few seats for the re-alignment of the stairs - I think mainly this was Holte Lower and North upper? Was it mostly pretty painless or has the view shifted more than you expected?
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How did things turn out for those shifted a few seats for the re-alignment of the stairs - I think mainly this was Holte Lower and North upper? Was it mostly pretty painless or has the view shifted more than you expected?
My seat in the lower Holte seems to have moved about 10-15 yards to the right. It’s a poorer view in my opinion, disappointed this wasn’t pointed out to us on renewal.
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I had to phone the ticket office today as I wanted to transfer a ticket for a match I cannot attend to a mate. The wait on the line was rather long but a big shout out for Sophie in the ticket office who was excellent in the way she dealt with the matter once I got through.
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How did things turn out for those shifted a few seats for the re-alignment of the stairs - I think mainly this was Holte Lower and North upper? Was it mostly pretty painless or has the view shifted more than you expected?
I’m now in the safe standing section at the back of the Lower Holte. It feels slightly further back and slightly more central so more than happy with the change.
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How did things turn out for those shifted a few seats for the re-alignment of the stairs - I think mainly this was Holte Lower and North upper? Was it mostly pretty painless or has the view shifted more than you expected?
I’m now in the safe standing section at the back of the Lower Holte. It feels slightly further back and slightly more central so more than happy with the change.
We moved outputs because we had lost our position close to gangways. We like our new seats. The people who are still by our old seats say it is much more cramped and not as good.
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Called TO, 'due to high number of calls we wont be able to answer the phone' Magic eh?
Anyone know how I can print off a paper version of my ST at home? Or transfer it via the website without speaking to the TO?
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Called TO, 'due to high number of calls we wont be able to answer the phone' Magic eh?
Anyone know how I can print off a paper version of my ST at home? Or transfer it via the website without speaking to the TO?
contact them on twitter, they respond quickly on there most of the time
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Still no sign of our ‘Christmas present.’
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Still no sign of our ‘Christmas present.’
It did say by the end of Jan but even that deadline is rapidly approaching.
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Called TO, 'due to high number of calls we wont be able to answer the phone' Magic eh?
Anyone know how I can print off a paper version of my ST at home? Or transfer it via the website without speaking to the TO?
Since the Juve game all the tickets I have bought have had a print at home option as well as the e-ticket issued. Scroll right to the bottom.
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Yeah I can do that for CL games but cant print individual ones off my ST. Thanks for the reply anyway
All day the TO line has said its not taking calls, and the email response is 'it might take 10 days to answer your query'
Not great is it?
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Trying PMing AVFC Support on Twitter if you have access to that medium.
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Still no sign of our ‘Christmas present.’
It did say by the end of Jan but even that deadline is rapidly approaching.
Maybe reach out and tell them what you want, what you really really want.
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Yeah I can do that for CL games but cant print individual ones off my ST. Thanks for the reply anyway
All day the TO line has said its not taking calls, and the email response is 'it might take 10 days to answer your query'
Not great is it?
Tbf it never takes 10 days - really unusual for it to be more than 24 hours
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It's just occurred to me season ticket holders were due to receive their free gift by 'the end of January.' Not had mine.
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It's just occurred to me season ticket holders were due to receive their free gift by 'the end of January.' Not had mine.
I’ve received mine today. It’s a home shirt with Duran & 9 on the back.
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It'll probably be yet another biro/key ring/ notebook: something cheap!
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The 'Christmas gift' is now meant to be sent out this month.
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And wasn’t it worth waiting for?😂
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The 'Christmas gift' is now meant to be sent out this month.
That's very early but well done to the Club.
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It’s a cup/flask.
Seriously, it IS a cup/flask.
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I received my mug yesterday. My wife liked the case and has nicked it for her craft stuff. Rude.
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I got the cup flask thing when I renewed my membership. I use it every day.
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Doesn't keep my tea hot enough for long enough. Looks nice though.
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I'd rather have a few quid off my season ticket or is that just me: I've got more cups than Real Madrid in my kitchen!
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It looks good. The box it's housed in is nice too for miscellaneous stuff.
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I didnt get a mug, but i did get a bucket hat which i shall wear down VP in the warmer months, just to embarrass my teenagers
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I got mine Saturday morning, useless bit of tat as usual.
I'd rather have been given a physical plastic season card.
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Nothing :-\
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Decent quality - probably £10 worth for mug (when you are buying 20k of them).
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I'd rather have been given a physical plastic season card.
I feel exactly the same but I suppose the club aren't bothered if someone else borrows your mug.
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Liverpool, Brentford & Wolves have frozen their ticket prices for next season, it will be interesting to see what our owners decide to do?
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Liverpool, Brentford & Wolves have frozen their ticket prices for next season, it will be interesting to see what our owners decide to do?
I don't think it will be 'interesting' at all. They will go up.
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How many European Champions wouldn't put their prices up?
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Marseille, maybe... as they got relegated.
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Liverpool, Brentford & Wolves have frozen their ticket prices for next season, it will be interesting to see what our owners decide to do?
Add West Ham to that list
10% rise and ‘restructure’ of concession age rates at VP?? :-)
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I got the cup flask thing when I renewed my membership. I use it every day.
Me too!
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Doesn't keep my tea hot enough for long enough. Looks nice though.
I take two to work. Drink out of the Villa one first, then the one that keeps things hot for longer.
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Its too big for the slot in my car. Heck out.
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Newcastle have gone for a 5% increase, Arsenal between 3-5% - I’m guessing we will be riding the train with these clubs rather those that are freezing prices.
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Newcastle have gone for a 5% increase, Arsenal between 3-5% - I’m guessing we will be riding the train with these clubs rather those that are freezing prices.
If we manage to win the CL the train we'll be riding will be the one used on HS2, we won't be sharing any carriages either.
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Add Tottenham to those clubs freezing prices for next season
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I wonder which benefits they advertise they'll try and weasel out of this year?
The purchase price only actually provides you with the option of a ballot for that seat every game?
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My son said the terrace view season tickets are increasing in price
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Supposedly GA+ season tickets for next season the prices are the same as this season
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ST prices will certainly increase, the big question is by how much.
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I'm sure the usual rumours of 20% hikes will be leaked to some itk on twit etc causing meltdown then we'll all heavy a collective sigh of releif when the club announce "only" 10%
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Supposedly GA+ season tickets for next season the prices are the same as this season
sounds like they're frozen for a limited period for early renewals only.
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I'm sure the usual rumours of 20% hikes will be leaked to some itk on twit etc causing meltdown then we'll all heavy a collective sigh of releif when the club announce "only" 10%
So exactly like last season and it turned out to be 5%. Still I’m sure the usual suspects will be in full on Cry Wolf mode.
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I just hope concessions are kept reasonable. There seems to be a worrying trend in the PL for OAP tickets to priced similar to full paying adults
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I just hope concessions are kept reasonable. There seems to be a worrying trend in the PL for OAP tickets to priced similar to full paying adults
Out of interest at what age does the OAP discount kick in?
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I just hope concessions are kept reasonable. There seems to be a worrying trend in the PL for OAP tickets to priced similar to full paying adults
Out of interest at what age does the OAP discount kick in?
State pension age, currently 66.
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
True but I don't understand it. Villa Season tickets are the absolute definition of inelastic demand so give us a clue how much they are so we can save etc.
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I just hope concessions are kept reasonable. There seems to be a worrying trend in the PL for OAP tickets to priced similar to full paying adults
I’d be surprised if they arent further aligned towards adult prices, football clubs don’t really want concessions, guess the investment in kids is that they keep going into adulthood, the OAP ones they’ll have a perception that OAPs don’t go to the shop, don’t really partake in the stunning fayre provided in the stands so the match day spend with the club is ticket price only.
It’s a horrible viewpoint but seems more and more clubs are going that way, edging up the concession age and closing the gap on how much a concession saves price wise
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
True but I don't understand it. Villa Season tickets are the absolute definition of inelastic demand so give us a clue how much they are so we can save etc.
The club don't care if you need to save, as they'll just replace you with someone who has the money the moment they demand it.
In fact they'd probably prefer it's somebody who doesn't need to save as some sort of analysis has proven they spend more in the club shop.
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
True but I don't understand it. Villa Season tickets are the absolute definition of inelastic demand so give us a clue how much they are so we can save etc.
In fact they'd probably prefer it's somebody who doesn't need to save as some sort of analysis has proven they spend more in the club shop.
Shortish article in the DM about the 'Football Supporters Association’s Stop Exploiting Loyalty campaign'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14575589/Manchester-derby-rivals-common-ground-supporters-say-fan-culture-dying.html
Some quotes:-
"‘Over at City, the fans are being priced out. Same at Chelsea and Tottenham. The clubs are trying to squeeze out the low-revenue match-going fans, and the atmosphere in every stadium is suffering. The fan culture is dying before our eyes.’"
"The club don't care if you need to save, as they'll just replace you with someone who has the money the moment they demand it."
"‘We’re being replaced. It’s manufacture the fan-base at the expense of identity, loyalty and our generational links to the club."
"‘Clubs are working together against the fans, so this season fans have started working together against the clubs. The only thing that separates us is the teams we support.’"
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I'm sure the usual rumours of 20% hikes will be leaked to some itk on twit etc causing meltdown then we'll all heavy a collective sigh of releif when the club announce "only" 10%
So exactly like last season and it turned out to be 5%. Still I’m sure the usual suspects will be in full on Cry Wolf mode.
Didn't it vary a bit more than 5% in some areas
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
True but I don't understand it. Villa Season tickets are the absolute definition of inelastic demand so give us a clue how much they are so we can save etc.
In fact they'd probably prefer it's somebody who doesn't need to save as some sort of analysis has proven they spend more in the club shop.
Shortish article in the DM about the 'Football Supporters Association’s Stop Exploiting Loyalty campaign'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14575589/Manchester-derby-rivals-common-ground-supporters-say-fan-culture-dying.html
Some quotes:-
"‘Over at City, the fans are being priced out. Same at Chelsea and Tottenham. The clubs are trying to squeeze out the low-revenue match-going fans, and the atmosphere in every stadium is suffering. The fan culture is dying before our eyes.’"
"The club don't care if you need to save, as they'll just replace you with someone who has the money the moment they demand it."
"‘We’re being replaced. It’s manufacture the fan-base at the expense of identity, loyalty and our generational links to the club."
"‘Clubs are working together against the fans, so this season fans have started working together against the clubs. The only thing that separates us is the teams we support.’"
Real sad situation. I know fans say they want the quality football that big money generates, but there is a cost to selling your soul.
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I looked at tickets Saturday , £72.50 to watch us play Forest .
It's a disgrace .
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Out of curiosity how many ST holders are there ?
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Out of curiosity how many ST holders are there ?
27,000
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There will be the brinksmanship about CL qualification like there was last year. Leaving it until the very last minute.
True but I don't understand it. Villa Season tickets are the absolute definition of inelastic demand so give us a clue how much they are so we can save etc.
The club don't care if you need to save, as they'll just replace you with someone who has the money the moment they demand it.
In fact they'd probably prefer it's somebody who doesn't need to save as some sort of analysis has proven they spend more in the club shop.
If you budget for the current price +5% then you aren't going to be far wrong one way or another.
From a recent MOMS survey, I think one of the things that is being debated is whether the option to spread the cost will remain interest free.
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Oops wrong thread.