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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on April 22, 2023, 02:05:28 PM
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Win please.
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A very unchanged team but I wonder what schemes and scams and traps and tricks Emery has in store for this one.
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Is this a watch party?
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I hope Mee trips on a blade of grass and breaks a toe nail and is out forever and ever.
******.
Come on Villa
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We definitely need some midfield reinforcements in the summer. None on the bench.
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Is this a watch party?
Time will tell.
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Is this a watch party?
Time will tell.
Yeah could be more of a wake.
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After last week, the football world has finally taken notice of the work Emery has done. A whole week of "Villa transformed" articles, and even that oaf Chris Sutton has predicted us to win. So I can't shake the feeling that today we'll revert back to being Aston Villa and mess this game up.
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We definitely need some midfield reinforcements in the summer. None on the bench.
There's a guy called Marvelous ripping up the Ch'ship at Luton Town.
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Come on Villa.
FTF.
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So Tommy Frank will have studied us religiously and got his team ready - except our genius will have done the same and outfoxed him. Every game feels winnable
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We definitely need some midfield reinforcements in the summer. None on the bench.
There's a guy called Marvelous ripping up the Ch'ship at Luton Town.
Prefer the Kirsty MacColl version.
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rivers and all waterways appreciated
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I completely forgot Mee plays for them now.
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They play Seven Nation Army, they deserve to be twatted just for that.
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We definitely need some midfield reinforcements in the summer. None on the bench.
There's a guy called Marvelous ripping up the Ch'ship at Luton Town.
Prefer the Kirsty MacColl version.
Excellent!
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Not on villa TV 😔
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After last week, the football world has finally taken notice of the work Emery has done. A whole week of "Villa transformed" articles, and even that oaf Chris Sutton has predicted us to win. So I can't shake the feeling that today we'll revert back to being Aston Villa and mess this game up.
Indeed Prop Joe, CS has finally turned. Think he actually.played for us, didn't he?!
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Great save from their keeper. Come on Villa. Please win
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They play Seven Nation Army, they deserve to be twatted just for that.
Oooooh Michael van Gerwin
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Not on villa TV 😔
Only audio
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Pretty open game so far
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Theres a very good iPhone app called live player.
If you ever wanted to watch something at 3pm on a Saturday for free.
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Great save from their keeper. Come on Villa. Please win
From who? Describe the move pls.
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Great save from their keeper. Come on Villa. Please win
From who? Describe the move pls.
Buendia ran through the middle, went outside of the boot from 20 yards, Raya saw it late and pushed it round the post.
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Brentford giving us respect, long time since they did that
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rivers and all waterways appreciated
i have a river if anyone wants it
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Great save from their keeper. Come on Villa. Please win
From who? Describe the move pls.
Sorry I was getting too excited
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Yes pls.
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rivers and all waterways appreciated
i have a river if anyone wants it
Yes please.
Much obliged.
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Fucking hell, Garry Birtles, will he ever SHUT THE FUCK UP?
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Both sides going for it, can't see Unai being happy with us conceding so many chances
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Who on earth is the co-commentator and which pub did they find him in?
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Great work by Emi 1
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Yes pls.
message me if required
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Great save from their keeper. Come on Villa. Please win
From who? Describe the move pls.
Buendia ran through the middle, went outside of the boot from 20 yards, Raya saw it late and pushed it round the post.
Ta.
Just catching up on BBC Live Text. Looks like Mbuemo v Moreno is proving to be quite the battle. He can't let him bully him.
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rivers and all waterways appreciated
i have a river if anyone wants it
Yes please.
Much obliged.
I could do with a swim
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PM me if required
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Birtles shut up.
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58% possession for us so far.
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A rare bad ball by Tyrone, Emery looks like sonebody's farted in front of the vicar.
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Birtles shut up.
He’s a fucking dinosaur
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Good work from Moreno
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Brilliant tackle by Moreno, stopped a certain goal.
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Well done moreno
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Blimey Donk
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Great defending Moreno
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Moreno can defend a bit as well, can't he? Cracking stuff.
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Awful ball by the Donk, leads to a shot, very, very poor.
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The expected comedown so far!
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We're struggling a bit.
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Poor JJ
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Good build up Buendia, terrible effort Ramsey. This is a bit sub-standard so far.
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I think JJ felt he deserved to take that shot on after setting the move up with some great skill.
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This is far too open.
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Imagine being married to Birtles . Grumpy twat
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Gary Birtles (commentating on the small river I’m watching) should go into management. He talks a very good game….the twat.
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They look to have our movements scouted and we haven't come up with alternatives. Going long too often and so on.
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That should have been a red. Horrible tackle.
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Ben Mee's been teaching his teammates how to tackle like a c**t.
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That from Norgaard is a bit nasty, definite yellow card, no idea why they were trying to argue.
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We need to ride this out. Brentford are a good side and especially at home. They make use of the pitch and can pull sides apart with their running off the ball. We can win this by sticking to the plan
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Not defending him but his wife sadly passed away in 2021. I believe it hit him very hard.
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Sorry I mean Gary Birtles’
Wife
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Distinct lack of scorchios here, could really do with one.
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Buendia's having one of his 'who are you trying to pass to exactly' days.
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Stuck in ground school and unable to stream. Need some positivity…
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Young's going to struggle now on a booking.
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Buendia's having one of his 'who are you trying to pass to exactly' days.
Also being bundled off the ball days.
Yellow for Ash, having a tough match so far, they're clearly targetting him.
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Young has been booked
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All a bit 'after the Lord Mayor's Show' today.
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Do we have anyone else who can play RB? Don't say Konsa.
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Ramsey/Buendia axis looks promising
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probably a fair yellow but the 2 given so far are the extremes, Young could easily have been just a foul and Norgaard could've gone.
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Do we have anyone else who can play RB? Don't say Konsa.
Bailey...
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All a bit 'after the Lord Mayor's Show' today.
These are exactly the type of games we need to get points from if we want to play in Europe.
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Do we have anyone else who can play RB? Don't say Konsa.
Chambers
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Great save Emi
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For the first time in what feels like years, i'll be pleased to go in at HT 0-0.
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Brilliant save Emi.
C'mon Villa, this is shite.
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All a bit 'after the Lord Mayor's Show' today.
I think that's a bit unfair, this has been very even so far because we're cancelling each other out. First goal will be massive here.
Good chance for them there though.
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Hmmm I worried about this
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Any rivers that don’t keep daming?
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They are like Newcastle in that they are pretty one dimensional, but effective. We just look a bit flat today. Stuff not quite coming off, yet.
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Shit effort Moreno. Buendia furious.
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SJM close!
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Great football
Shocking finish
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Close there villa
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Lovely play, great effort McGinn.
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It was a save, should have been a corner. xG won't even register that, will it....?!
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Giving too many sloppy passes away.
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Fuck me, some sweeping from Emi!
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Good point there birtles
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The co commentator hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.
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Gary Birtles is thick as mince.
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Last week was probably the absolute peak of our powers. It was brilliant. But in truth especially given the journey we’ve been on, this group isn’t going to play to those levels every week. We need to grind out a few wins also as we have been doing. I’ll happily take a 1-0 shit win today. For us to be properly consistent to the level we shows vs Newcastle we are going to need to upgrade 3 or 4 current starting players.
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The way it's going so far, I'd be satisfied with a draw.
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FFS Buendia.
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Last week was probably the absolute peak of our powers. It was brilliant. But in truth especially given the journey we’ve been on, this group isn’t going to play to those levels every week. We need to grind out a few wins also as we have been doing. I’ll happily take a 1-0 shit win today. For us to be properly consistent to the level we shows vs Newcastle we are going to need to upgrade 3 or 4 current starting players.
Don’t see a problem to be honest. Brentford are good at home and they have rarely troubles us so far
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Buendia so frustrating
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Buendia's having one of those games where you want to strangle the little fucker.
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commentary on Villa TV
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Last week was probably the absolute peak of our powers. It was brilliant. But in truth especially given the journey we’ve been on, this group isn’t going to play to those levels every week. We need to grind out a few wins also as we have been doing. I’ll happily take a 1-0 shit win today. For us to be properly consistent to the level we shows vs Newcastle we are going to need to upgrade 3 or 4 current starting players.
Don’t see a problem to be honest. Brentford are good at home and they have rarely troubles us so far
And I sense they are starting to get frustrated
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Birtles is a grade one helmet
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Be interesting to see what Unai does second half.
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There was an ordinary and difficult match come up base on our flawless run so far so this is it I am afraid.
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Last week was probably the absolute peak of our powers. It was brilliant. But in truth especially given the journey we’ve been on, this group isn’t going to play to those levels every week. We need to grind out a few wins also as we have been doing. I’ll happily take a 1-0 shit win today. For us to be properly consistent to the level we shows vs Newcastle we are going to need to upgrade 3 or 4 current starting players.
Don’t see a problem to be honest. Brentford are good at home and they have rarely troubles us so far
I’m not saying we’re playing badly, but it’s more a comment about our maximum performance potential and how we can achieve that consistently. Just pointing based on our players, in all likelihood we have a ceiling in terms of our average. Not complaining
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Be interesting to see what Unai does second half.
Indeed although Frank is no mug
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We weren’t great, but we also weren’t punished for it. Have to find a way to get JJ and Ollie involved. Plenty of space to carry the ball in the middle of the park, we just need Emi to pick the pass.
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Mediocre stuff, they seem to know what we're trying to do and we haven't adapted. Hopefully Unai's got some ideas.
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We're not getting battered by any means, but it's all a bit uncomfortable so far.
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We need to get Ramsey and Watkins more involved, nothing in it so far but I think we have more quality.
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I’d take a 3.0 win now.
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I'd swap McGinn onto the right
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It’s got to improve 2nd half. Boundia and Luiz reverting to the sloppiness they’ produce now and then. Defensively sound though.
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Only look like scoring when Buendia gets on the ball. He's finding some good space off their back 4 but inconsistent final ball as ever.
Brentford switch play very well, really good battle between Moreno and Mbeumo.
Has the feel of one goal in this but we're experts at keeping things tight away and then getting a goal and hanging on so here's hoping we can create some decent chances for Ollie in the second.
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Last week was probably the absolute peak of our powers. It was brilliant. But in truth especially given the journey we’ve been on, this group isn’t going to play to those levels every week. We need to grind out a few wins also as we have been doing. I’ll happily take a 1-0 shit win today. For us to be properly consistent to the level we shows vs Newcastle we are going to need to upgrade 3 or 4 current starting players.
Don’t see a problem to be honest. Brentford are good at home and they have rarely troubles us so far
I’m not saying we’re playing badly, but it’s more a comment about our maximum performance potential and how we can achieve that consistently. Just pointing based on our players, in all likelihood we have a ceiling in terms of our average. Not complaining
Perhaps Brentford have been tactically good enough to stifle our play, and it's not really a comment on the players?
Don't get me wrong, I think there are changes to be made in the summer, but I'd not take one performance against a tactically astute team to mean much.
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There not giving us much time to play out from the back and we’re going long a bit too much. Need to get Dougie on the ball more. Beundia having an off day so far. Fingers crossed we improve 2nd half.
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Mediocre stuff, they seem to know what we're trying to do and we haven't adapted. Hopefully Unai's got some ideas.
That's true in reverse as well though.
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Mediocre stuff, they seem to know what we're trying to do and we haven't adapted. Hopefully Unai's got some ideas.
That's true in reverse as well though.
Indeed - though in our case Martinez as the last defender has been a little busy for comfort.
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Fancy us second half.
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Algy is right, Frank has done his homework. JJ is the answer, they can’t seem to cope with him
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Ollie hasn't had a sniff so far, don't see anyone on the bench to bring on. They are playing the long ball over the top and it is a worry.
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Oh no..
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Ah shit.
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Trying to remember one loose ball/50-50 we've won. Last week we picked them all up, today Brentford are collecting and using them to launch their attacks. The midfield needs to get a grip, Donks is sitting back too much, SJM too wide, Ramsey playing 'Statues' at times, only Luiz looks on his game.
Big half and improvement needed.
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WTF - Why have we declared
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Martinez off?
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Traore to win this late on in a tactical switch masterclass🤞
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Oh bollocks!
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Olsen, fuck.
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What happened to Emi?
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Game over.
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Olsen on. That means we need to score two this half to get a point. Yikes.
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Oh good lord.
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Reading the "oh no", I thought we'd conceded but sounds worse - Olsen on?
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Ah fuck, with Martinez I was confident they weren't troubling him.
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Olsen on.
Oh well. The run was nice while it lasted.
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unwell apparently
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Not exactly the best half time news
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Fuck me - that the last thing we need
Bet Unai is thinking - and you all mocked us having two substitute goalies
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That's a huge blow, come on Robin.
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Reading the "oh no", I thought we'd conceded but sounds worse - Olsen on?
Yeah the step just before we concede
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Kept a Clean sheet at Tottenham? Straw grasped.
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unwell apparently
He could have an acute case of death and still be more reliable than Olsen.
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I'd rather have put Bailey in goal
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Well done Donk
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Ah well, it was a good run while it lasted.
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Looks like they’ve decided to have a go at us
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Olsen catches the ball, I repeat, Olsen catches the ball!!!
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That's a bugger, Emi M going off: hope he'll be OK for Tuesday. Come on Robin!
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unwell apparently
Shouldn't have had the Gamberoni Marinara at Verona. :(
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We haven't got going at all.
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Losing the midfield today.
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Why didn't he play the other GOALIE!
He could have an acute case of death and still be more reliable Fuck me - that the last thing we need
Bet Unai is thinking - and you all mocked us having two substitute goalies
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We don't look top six so far.
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We are going to have to score 2 or 3 times now because we will concede. Let’s hope it’s Olsen from the Tottenham game and not the other version we are used to seeing
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We don't look top six so far.
Nah they are just having a go and if they don’t score I fancy us
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Holy shit we get away with one!!
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We’ll lose this I suspect.
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Olsen cock up
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Jesus
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Fucking Olsen, absolutely hopeless.
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Fuck me, how shit is that bozo Olsen. Fucking amateur.
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Fuck me Olsen is turd. If he can be a goalkeeper, so can I.
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Feel like we’re hanging on here.
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Losing the midfield today.
This is the problem.
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Fucking hell Olsen.
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Surely we'd have been better putting one of the kid GK's on instead of this utter joker
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Awful corner
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Down to 10?
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8 mins until Olsen fucks up
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Kept a Clean sheet at Tottenham? Straw grasped.
Kept Stevenage quite for 85 mins.
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If i was Thomas Frank, I'd have them pump balls into our area for the next 40 mins. Olsen is so shit.
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This isn't good enough. Get some game-changers on.
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Too many players just not on it today. Iffy passing and control from most of them.
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We need to take the pace out of this game asap
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Wolves fans always said Dendoncker is 1 in 10 player.
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How do Bees fans know how crap Olsen is?
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Wolves fans always said Dendoncker is 1 in 10 player.
Hopefully 9 good ones.
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Wolves fans always said Dendoncker is 1 in 10 player.
They also thought they'd be in the CL by now. They know fuck all.
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How do Bees fans know how crap Olsen is?
They have eyes.
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We look tired.
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Brentford will be gutted if they don't win this.
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Need a few fouls to slow it down
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Does this still count as a clean sheet for Emi?
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Feel free to make a change Unai.
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There can’t be any other club in one specific position, with the disparity in quality that we experience when we go from Emi to Olsen.
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Another Brentford chance
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Olsen's distribution is a problem too, given we rely heavily on Martinez picking passes.
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Really missing Kamara today.
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Get a grip villa
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Evri have better distribution than Olsen.
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We're defending resolutely.
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I'd take 0-0.
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Feel free to make a change Unai.
I don't think you could trust Bert or Jhon though against such a well-drilled team, it's a tough one to call
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Something has to change or we are going to lose this
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This is the problem with a threadbare squad.
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Subs coming, probably Digne and Chambers
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Olsen instills pure fear into the defence.
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Midfield so poor today
Buendia n mcginn below standard
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Jensen for them is everywhere.
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Brentford playing with 12 men now
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Garbage 2nd half so far
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Olsen instills pure fear into the defence.
He does and then it goes through the team
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Brentford score
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Rubbish
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Well, that has been coming.
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Poor from Unai leaving it so long.
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Well it was coming
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Young's fault
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Rubbish
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God, I'll be happy when these lot go back to being in League One.
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Young's fault
Yes, bad mistake that.
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There we go and based on what’s come before that’s probably the game.
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Bit of a come down from last week
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Fuck. We look really lethargic, it's bizarre.
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Got what we deserved. Gutless from the manager down to players today
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All the defence was there but ffs young
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We havent shown up today
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Through his legs. Good god.
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I hate that gambling prick
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Awful, awful by Young. Useless cvnt.
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Fully deserved, we've been shite this half. Not helped with Olsen on but we've been second best everywhere.
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Can’t complain. We’ve invited this incessant pressure.
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This is the worst we've played in so so long.
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Predictable. Brentford away has always been lousy for us.
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Got what we deserved. Gutless from the manager down to players today
Bit harsh.
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Is this the first game under Emery where we don't score? I can't see where a goal's coming from.
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I don't think we've won a 50/50 all game.
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Worth remembering Brentford have been shit this year, since Jan 2nd they've won 4 gmes and 2 were Southampton.
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It’s a down day on the back a brilliant run of results. Let’s not jump of the bridge. We’ve looked really flat all game.
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this is a tough watch.
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We’re just not in this at all. Really need to get a grip on this
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As soon as Olsen came on I knew we’d concede. It’s just too easy to score past him.
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We never play well at Brentford.
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They’re a bogey side. We don’t win here.
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Is this the first game under Emery where we don't score? I can't see where a goal's coming from.
Going to have to be a worldie, we haven't been in their penalty area for about half an hour.
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Got what we deserved. Gutless from the manager down to players today
Bit harsh.
We've been from the start and done nothing to change it.
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Bollocks. 1-0 Toney. Young and Olsen didn't have a clue.
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He hasn't really been in the game in an attacking sense, but still disappointed to see Moreno go off.
Surprised Dhuran hasn't come on.
Also thought Ollie was going to give that dirty fuck, Mee, the runaround
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We were probably a bit too confident going into this.
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This is where our bench becomes a major issue. When things aren’t great we have no proper quality to change things up. I’m sure Emery is more than aware of just how thin we are.
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Finally a chance
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Watkins must have had sleepless nights . Where is he
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Damn .. close there
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They've looked quicker and stronger than us all afternoon.
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Awful, awful by Young. Useless cvnt.
A 38-year old, converted back that has filled in for Cash surprisingly well is about as useful as it gets.
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This has been a very disappointing performance but there's still loads of time.
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Should've scored
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Pray for Martinez
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I don't like Brentford very much.
Come on Villa!
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Ref you fucking prick!
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Digne not looking good
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Should've scored
His brother would have buried it.
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Foul surely
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Funny how the fixtures work out. We played Fulham, Brentford, Newcastle and L, W, L. We now play Newcastle, Brentford, Fulham. We have a W, hopefully get something out of today but nice to think Fulham will be W. We will need a reaction at home.
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I guess we just need to think where we were ;to where we are now. This project will not be resolved overnight. For sure we are on the way.
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VAR, what’s it for?
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Kicked in the head and not a foul?
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There'd better be more than 5 minutes injury time.
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That’s a sending off. It’s dangerous.
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You're not fit watch the game! Yoooou're not fit to watch the game.
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Piss poor from the ref to not give a foul there.
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Worth remembering Brentford have been shit this year, since Jan 2nd they've won 4 gmes and 2 were Southampton.
But have only lost twice at home all season. And whoever the manager is, we always struggle away to them.
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This game highlights that we simply have to invest well in the summer. We have a really good thing going but this group needs improving in a few areas.
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Emery is doing a Gerrard on his arse.
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A drop ball?
Fuck off ref
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We just have to hope we can carve a chance. The game changed when Olsen came on - not sure if it just messed up the half time. The defence seems more shakey and less comfortable with the ball
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Emery is doing a Gerrard on his arse.
Tf
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Looks like early Sunday practice for the boys
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We need a penalty, it's the only chance we have of scoring today. There's just one problem..
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Really bad weekend to have a nightmare. The start of this half was as bad as the first half against Wolves. It was just absolutely certain they were going to score.
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There is no doubt this is all down to Olsen. The confidence at the back on which our game depends has just evaporated
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Emery is doing a Gerrard on his arse.
Tf
He's sitting on his arse looking well-pissed off.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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There is no doubt this is all down to Olsen. The confidence at the back on which our game depends has just evaporated
He doesn't help but we were poor before he came on.
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This should be about 8 or 9 - 0. We've been abysmal
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I love you PWS.
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Get in
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Yay!
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There is no doubt this is all down to Olsen. The confidence at the back on which our game depends has just evaporated
The first half performance had nothing to do with him. Our midfield and attacking play hasn’t been good enough today. Of course having him back there and not Emi doesn’t help matters
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Ha! I didn't see that coming!
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Get in.
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Hey Duggie
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Keep the faith
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PWS you are ace! No stream and you’ve all I got!
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Yessss
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Never in doubt that we'd score...
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Goòoaaallĺuisssss
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Get in Dougie!
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Well done Doug
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WE ALWAYS SCORE.
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This will be an interesting 10 mins
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Be great to get something from such a poor performance.
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Another emery goal
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Just blow the fuckering whistle now ref a draw will do especially with Olsen in goal
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Great sustained pressure leading up to that. Lovely finish.
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Phew, Brentford score but offside.
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Another Villa goal and 3 points please.
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There was an inevitability about that, we finally managed to pin them into their box and they were all over the place trying to defend it.
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Get the fuck in! 1-1 Luiz!
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Thought Beundia had gone off
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We can win this
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Emery straight off his arse.
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VAR
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Hold on to your seats lads
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Six minutes of extra time.
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6 mins added time
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Just off
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Offside
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What's happening?
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Phew
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If we can pinch this then it’s all meant to be. There is a new urgency about our play that was missing for 85 minutes
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Not been Ramsey's best game.
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Luiz with a foot like a traction engine, but wide.
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Come on olsen no fook ups for the last few minutes
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6minutes doesn't seem much given Digne was down for 4, there's been 2 goals and was a delay for Schade as well.
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Nothing stupid now
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Keep the faith
Is this your first time on a match thread? Everything is awful and all our players are useless pricks!
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Urgh wasted opportunity
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Keep the faith
Is this your first time on a match thread? Everything is awful and all our players are useless pricks!
This is so true haha
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Oh Mings! No thanks
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Mings thinks he kompany
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FFS Tyrone don’t shoot from there
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Keep the faith
Is this your first time on a match thread? Everything is awful and all our players are useless pricks!
FFS! Sort it out Unai!
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All over. 1-1 FT
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Ramsay should have shot
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Fucking hell Mings.
Shooting from there....
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I’ll take that. Feels like we’ve stolen a point by reading on here
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Oh well, if you can't win, don't lose. A point more than we deserved so I'll take that. We move on.
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Decent chance to nick it at the end but definitely a point won.
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Too many wild shots
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Poor from Ollie and JJ there.
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Well there were quite a few harsh comments being made.
Anyway happy with a draw.