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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on April 15, 2023, 02:25:37 PM
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Yes FTF!
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Football from heaven.
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Win forever.
Emery knows.
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Get in Villa!
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I'm fucking LOVIN this!
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Won 3-0, had one disallowed, hit the woodwork twice, that was a proper fucking battering.
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
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What a bloody performance. Completely dominant and 3-0 flattered the team who are third in the league. Incredible from the players, especially Ollie and JJ, but what a manager and coaching staff we have.
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We are a serious team now. And my goodness, it feels great.
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VP fast turning into a bogey ground for those sad Mag twats n'all.
Long may it continue.
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Enjoyed that, controlled the game from start to finish and but for Pipe and the woodwork coming to their rescue, could have scored 8.
Trippier was terrible.
Magnificent Villa!
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A thorough battering.
Not even a sniff of a moral victory for those ******
Get in!
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I honestly didn’t expect more than a point from this game given their form.
This has to go down as one of the best performances in the last 10 years.
Unai is a genius
Has to be in for manager of the season
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
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Post a team photo after that you self-absorbed bozo's
Brilliant performance. Arguably our best since we got promoted
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Have some of that jordeez! Best defense in the league my arse. Absolutely bashed ‘em start to finish. Credit where it’s due, we are a proper team playing some of the best football in the league.
Unai masterclass 8)
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That was superb. Everyone fantastic.
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To a man that was an outstanding performance.
The best we have played in the last 10 years for me, along with the thrashings of Liverpool & Arsenal during Covid.
I have been his biggest critic but special mention to Ollie Watkins, he was out of this world today. Newcastle found him unplayable from minute 1.
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Best game since??
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
A clean sheet against these is a 9 across the board for the defence, Mings and Moreno must have been close to a 10
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Best game since??
Arsenal away 3-0.
Watkins scored twice in that game too.
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Ollie motm, Moreno a close second, everyone else third.
One of the most complete performances in a long time, absolutely buzzing.
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Am I correct in saying we are on a run the likes in the Premier League we haven't seen since the John Gregory
days?
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Think Alan Shearer is about to send a tweet about immigration so he gets stood down from Match of the Day
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We are just a superb football team. Going the pub tonight now. FTF.
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Alan Shearer@alanshearer
20m
Well done Villa. Brilliant today.
Not many teams have done this to Newcastle. They have battered them from start to finish and been better in every position.
#AVLNEW
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Am I correct in saying we are on a run the likes in the Premier League we haven't seen since the John Gregory
days?
Yes 8)
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We’re reeling the fkers in
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Best performance I can remember seeing for years
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Cursing have missed this with this lurgy...
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We looked like a team that deserved to be in the top six today. Absolutely bloody brilliant.
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Brighton and the Redscouse still have games in hand on us.
But must be disheartening when they see a result like that.
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Paul Gascoigne, Alan Shearer, Ant & Dec, Cheryl Cole your boys took one hell of a beating
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
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We looked like a team that deserved to be in the top six today. Absolutely bloody brilliant.
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Best game since??
Since we smashed Liverpool a few years back.
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League table makes great viewing. Look how far clear of Chelsea, Fulham and potentially Brentford we are already. We need to keep winning to do anything really sensational, but it's incredible really.
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Working in the garden, singing "Ollie Ollie Ollie" to the "Allez Allez Allez" tune.
FFTFGF 💜💙
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Moreno most touches of any Villa player today, apparently.
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
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WWDWWWWW ;)
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They are a dirty team but we stood up to them. Something we haven’t seen from a Villa side for ages.
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As close to a 10/10 performance as it’s possible to get. We battered them from minute 1. Everyone had a stormer, every fucking one of them. Superb. UTFV.
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I didn't want that game to end, I be happy to sit in this pub watching that game all weekend.
Keep it up you Villa Boys.
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
No
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
No
Thank you mate ❤️
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
There's always a chance. But he's not achieved anything with us yet. He doesn't strike me as a coach who likes to leave a project unfulfilled.
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Fantastic, I worried that they had a stronger bench than us and may make this count. But we were so much better than them it was unreal. Its a very strange feeling watching Villa at the moment.
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
I reckon the Chelsea model of signing endless players for massive money is not something Emery would want. He wants a group of players and to just drill into them how to play, not have 40 players meandering around.
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Great win would have taken a draw, what a signing Moreno has been , what must S G think of our current form?
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Faultless performance, could have been 6 or 7 and they couldn't have complained. Well they could, they always do, but you know what I mean.
It's weird going into the rest of the season, looking through the remaining 7 or 8 games, and just not fearing anyone. Man U or Liverpool away? Fuck that, we'll have them as well.
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The day we've all been waiting for so long. We are a great team again. Enjoy..
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Fantastic, I worried that they had a stronger bench than us and may make this count. But we were so much better than them it was unreal. Its a very strange feeling watching Villa at the moment.
Howe's subs and tactical adjustments were flat out terrible. They were unbalanced for the last 30 minutes and we exposed them.. could've easily been 5-0 or more.
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Brilliant result, UTV!
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Watkins will rightly get the plaudits but the midfield was awesome. Donk with his first league start in however long allowed the others to play, Doug got on the ball and dictated the tempo and McGinn, Ramsey and Buendia gave the energy and running to support Ollie. Defence also superb, fantastic team performance.
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What a performance, I think must of us would have been happy with a draw before kick off.
3-0 flatters Newcastle it could easily have been 6- 0.
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So pleased. What a wonderful time to be a Villa fan. The younger generation are finally going to see what the club is capable of.
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Big if, but, Bournemouth beat Spurs later and we’re only 3 pts behind
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8k
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
Tens all round from me! In 45 years of following the Villa we’ve rarely played better than today. Wow.
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In the first 3 games of February, we shipped 10 goals in 3 games.
Since then, we have played 8 games and conceded 2 goals. One of which was a penalty.
That is one hell of an achievement. What the hell changed in our defence in that time??? Did Unai spot a weakness and coach it out of them? Seriously impressive if you consider who we’ve played in that time.
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ooops
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8k
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
Tens all round from me! In 45 years of following the Villa we’ve rarely played better than today. Wow.
Martinez 11
Young 11
Konsa 11
Mings 11
Moreno 11+2
Luiz 11
Dendonkar 11
McGinn 11
Ramsey 11
Buendia 11
Watkins 11+3
Unai 12
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Got up at 5.30 am in Denver whilst on holiday. What a performance, every man played his part magnificently. Unai Emery masterclass. I bet no one fancies playing us in this form.
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ooops
45m for Anthony Gordon.. now that's an oops.
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Aston Villa 3 - 0 Byker Grurve Oil Tramps.
That... was absolutely outstanding in every way.
Watkins getting the plaudits and rightly so, but we kept a clean sheet too, and dominated them all over the pitch.
Mings and Konsa are looking so comfortable in possession now, it's just crazy. The coaching must be incredible.
It's jaw-dropping to see the football Emery has this team playing, a team that was doing so badly when he arrived, and he's only brought in one signing.
I can't see us finishing in the top four this season, but next year all bets are off.
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Got up at 5.30 am in Denver whilst on holiday. What a performance, every man played his part magnificently. Unai Emery masterclass. I bet no one fancies playing us in this form.
Gosh what do you do with yourself now 😳😃
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Sublime passing throughout and a hunger and a desire all over the pitch.
Every player superb.
Special mention for the skipper, showing everything for the shirt.
Dougie Luiz shouting "Wake up!" at the excellent Moreno after his only loss of the ball perfectly sums up what our manager wants and is getting from the squad.
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Got up at 5.30 am in Denver whilst on holiday. What a performance, every man played his part magnificently. Unai Emery masterclass. I bet no one fancies playing us in this form.
Gosh what do you do with yourself now 😳😃
Drink and masturbate, I think.
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Mcginn reminds me of them old Scottish footballers of yesteryear, come mate if you want some,
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
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Message to rest of Europe...SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE!
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
Even that one felt like we just caught them on an off day, and a few of those early goals were deflections etc. There was nothing “freak” about this result, a total performance against one of the only teams as in-form as we are. It was quite literally perfect. I can’t remember a performance like that in 10+ years easily.
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Ollie was brilliant, but even more importantly it was a brilliant team performance, at the moment I can't see us losing another game, for the rest of the season.
UP THE VILLA
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No offence to Bailey and Bertie but that's why I would rather them not be playing so McGinn can be free to do what he did today.
OK maybe a little offence to Bailey. I did kind of want to see if Bertie could do his Jedi mind trick for a 3rd game in a row though.
What a game. What an atmosphere.
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
No one is an 8 today Clark, Bing Bang Fooking bosh
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What a performance, that was absolutely outstanding in every way. We just dominated them, and could have scored 2 or 3 more easily. Only downside is I wasn't there!
We we're just completely in control, they couldn't lay a glove on us. We look so well coached, and every player looks so much improved - most must have doubled in value. A special shoutout for Ollie, who was unplayable today - looked another level.
Looking forward to Southgate saying how close some of these Villa players are to the squad, when he picks Maguire, Callum Wilson and Conor Gallagher.
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Just proud, real fucking proud.
We are truly back and in style.
10/10 all round.
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Got up at 5.30 am in Denver whilst on holiday. What a performance, every man played his part magnificently. Unai Emery masterclass. I bet no one fancies playing us in this form.
Gosh what do you do with yourself now 😳😃
Drink and masturbate, I think.
Amen brother
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There's a drag factor on the 7-2 in that there were no fans there. Taking nothing from that performance at all - I bloody loved it - but there's always the question mark about whether we'd have played the same with thousands of fans watching. Today was a dream day instead of an unreal fantasy.
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
None whatsoever brother
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Liverpool were defending champions and 7 flattered them. They'd lost something like 5 league games in the last close to 100 they played iirc. Today was very good, but it wasn't a patch on that.
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What a stunningly, fantastic win. I wasn’t able to watch any of the game today, so thank you to those of you who kept me up-to-date in the match thread. I am really looking forward to seeing the goals and reading tomorrow’s rags. We really do seem to be the real deal Under Unai Emery. Brilliant performance and cements us in the top six for the weekend. It would be great if a few other teams help us out with results against the sides around us.
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What a superb performance from everybody.
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I'm saying it now Emery has to be one of the top 3 managers in the world. It's one thing being Pep always managing the very best teams/players to win trophies and having immense sums to continuously improve. Quite another to take a rag tag pretty much relegation guaranteed group, low on confidence, belief, morale and in a matter of months make us legitimately CL qualification contenders. It's beyond a miracle that we are watching.
Do you think there is any chance Spurs or Chelsea try to lure him away?
No
Thank you mate ❤️
I just don't see it happening anytime soon. As fans, were impatient - but to be fair to the club and the owners - we are no pushover anymore on or off the pitch. I think most people around the club really think this is just the beginning. We have had set backs, and will have some more, but I think Villa and Unai is a perfect match for both parties.
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What a performance, that was absolutely outstanding in every way. We just dominated them, and could have scored 2 or 3 more easily. Only downside is I wasn't there!
We we're just completely in control, they couldn't lay a glove on us. We look so well coached, and every player looks so much improved - most must have doubled in value. A special shoutout for Ollie, who was unplayable today - looked another level.
Looking forward to Southgate saying how close some of these Villa players are to the squad, when he picks Maguire, Callum Wilson and Conor Gallagher.
Even the likes of Rio Ferdinand are saying "he's got to be in the next England squad" when looking at a table that shows he's scored as many goals as Haaland since the World Cup. I don't think even Southgate can deny him right now.
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Looking forward to Southgate saying how close some of these Villa players are to the squad, when he picks Maguire, Callum Wilson and Conor Gallagher.
If he remains true to form he'll be encouraging Ollie to join one of the Scum 4 shortly.
Would've been nice to hear him get a hearty booing from all four corners of the ground when his ugly mug shot up on the screen.
But today is not one to worry about the former Boro captain.
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There isn’t team on the planet at the moment they could have lived us with today.
We were that good.
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That was the most complete and best performance from Villa in ages. Everyone played so well for the whole game, we were on the front foot, and importantly the level of fitness and energy showed through again.
Players that would have been flagging early on the season are all so much fitter.
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It also bears mentioning - We have Bailey, Carlos, Phil, Cash, Kamara all injured.
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That was pretty much the perfect performance.
We dominated them from start to finish, all over the park & the scoreline heavily flattered them.
Playing through their press pretty much bypassed their tactics & there was only one team on that pitch who looked liked Champions League contenders.
Every player to a man gets a 10/10.
Some will say that Newcastle were poor & didn't turn up.
In reality, we didn't allow them to turn up because we were more dominant over them than a BDSM madame.
Today, they were our little bitch.
Its nice to flip that around after some of the results we have had against them in the past with managers who didnt have a clue what they were doing.
Absolutely fantastic that it was against those lot too... 😂
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Liverpool were defending champions and 7 flattered them. They'd lost something like 5 league games in the last close to 100 they played iirc. Today was very good, but it wasn't a patch on that.
That Liverpool performance lives in my heart forever. Today, depending on where we finish, will be like the warm glow reminiscing about the ten in a row from the promotion season.
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What a game, brilliant all over the pitch.
I've often watched games and wondered where opposition players are finding such acres of space from, well now it's the other way round and this was against a team that's also in great form - this was Men against boys.
Bring on anyone, no-one will be looking forward to playing us now.
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Hope Monty's enjoying this. I know he was desperate for us to beat Saudi United!
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Joyous.
Destroyed them all over the pitch.
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As close to a 10/10 performance as it’s possible to get. We battered them from minute 1. Everyone had a stormer, every fucking one of them. Superb. UTFV.
This. Only to add I didn't see this coming. It's like everybody has bought in to Emery's philosophy and now paying more attention to his long team talks. The header back from Watkins to Ramsey was the highlight of the game. Absolute genius and those are two words I never thought I'd use to describe Watkins 4 months ago. What an amazing transformation.
Every player gets a 10 from me.
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WWDWWWWW ;)
Really cheesed off about that Wet Spam draw. Lol.
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I saw a comment from Callum Wilson yesterday saying that Villa were on fire at the moment, but that the fire brigade would be in town today. Well, where the fuck are they Callum? You twat.
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Dominated for 90 mins. Wonderful all over the pitch. So enjoyable to watch this team play. Dreamland..
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We absolutely dominated them today. That’s one of the most comfortable games I’ve ever seen and was never in doubt from 1 minute on the clock. What a performance from every single member of that team and of course, our genius pulling the strings.
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Loads of exceptional performances today but I want to mention Luiz again, he was like prime Pirlo today, getting the ball in the pocket looking like he had all the time in the world and directing play.
Watkins will get all the plaudits but Moreno was my motm, he made Trippier look shit, which doesn't happen very often.
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Just WOW!
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We still have spurzz to play and spurzz are away to the mags next week , we can catch them .
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A perfect start to finish 90 minute performance
I was a bit worried thinking we were going to cautious with the line up
But that’s why Uni is a well paid genius and I sell Lorries for a living
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The bench could have kamara, Phil and cash next week too..
Emery is absolute genius ..
I really feel top 4 next season.
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A complete 90 minute performance.
Emery again proved himself to be a tactical genius by playing less out from the back and hitting McGinn. Could have a should have been 5 but what wonderful day!!!!!!
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In the last 12 months only us, Man City and Liverpool have beaten them in the league.
In the last 12 months only us and Man City have scored 3 against them, in any competition.
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Unai Emery’s Aston Villa, the gift that keeps on giving.
Martinez 9
Young 8
Konsa 8
Mings 9
Moreno 9
Luiz 8
Dendonkar 8
McGinn 8k
Ramsey 9
Buendia 8
Watkins 11
Unai 12
Tens all round from me! In 45 years of following the Villa we’ve rarely played better than today. Wow.
Martinez 11
Young 11
Konsa 11
Mings 11
Moreno 11+2
Luiz 11
Dendonkar 11
McGinn 11
Ramsey 11
Buendia 11
Watkins 11+3
Unai 12
Gerrin! UTV!
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Thank God Southgate is England manager so Ollie won't get distracted by International games.
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Loved it, absolutely fucking loved it!
Not felt this positive about Villa for years.
What a signing Moreno is, the way we set up allows him to bomb forward down that wing like Tony Morley, beautiful.
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Alan Shearer@alanshearer
20m
Well done Villa. Brilliant today.
Not many teams have done this to Newcastle. They have battered them from start to finish and been better in every position.
#AVLNEW
Fair play. He does seem to have a soft spot for us.
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Wow. That was such a complete performance, just flawless, amazing.
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Doing the same in the toilet!
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Let’s hope Madrid don’t try
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And how fucking shit is Anthony Gordon? Forty fucking million. Everton have to laughing their balls off that they got the money back they wasted on Dele Alli.
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And the other was a worldie from Barnes
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That was an insanely brilliant performance, a proper old fashioned shoeing. Fucking hell, still can’t quite believe all this.
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Not read anything as still in the pub but just wanted to say ‘Wow!’
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Best game since??
Since we smashed Liverpool a few years back.
Controversial, but this feels better than the 7-2. As brilliant as it was, it was played in an empty stadium and, as bad as Liverpool were they still scored twice.
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I was relating the details to my son who couldn't watch the game.At this was my message at HT "1-0. I've not seen us put a team under this level of pressure for a long time . They will be a wonderful addition to the Chumps League."
He continually worried about us not scoring more to make it safe. My frustration was that I couldn't make him understand the level of domination we had and that they were never in the game.
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Magnificent, every single player. Bossed them completely. Even more so than the battering of Liverpool.
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A convincing win, and a statement win at this stage of the season
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In reality, we didn't allow them to turn up because we were more dominant over them than a BDSM madame.
Can I use that?
🤣🤣🤣
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Not long got in. What a game and a great atmosphere. They just could not live with the tempo we played at and we probably could have won by an even wider margin to be honest.
Thought they all played really well, but want to give a special mention to Dendoncker. That howler against Stevenage aside, he has been solid when he has played and has featured in some of our best wins and performances.
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What an absolutely wonderful afternoon to be at Villa Park thoday. I thought this was going to be a test and the boys just sailed through it. A superb controlled performance. Everyone yes EVERYONE a super duper 10 today. Well done lads and thank you Emery.
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I'm fucking LOVIN this!
And tell you what it's sooooo fucking good not seeing away fans over to my right celebrating. I used to hate that but has not happened for a long while now.
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What I love about Emery is he has a clear plan for every team we play. Clearly not happy with the overall performance v Forest so he spends the week in between improving things.
Also I thought Henneseys in Digbeth was a Blose pub as lots of Villa in there today so my son told me. The city is ours as always.
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
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OUR passing and movement was a joy to watch
Fantastic performance And a pleasure to be at the game
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I'm not nearly tactically savvy enough to explain why but it was fucking amazing how regularly we found ourselves in acres of space. It was almost as if they had had 2 players sent off or something.
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We moved the ball forward so much quicker than they probably expected. We hardly played our usual triangles at the back.
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What I love about Emery is he has a clear plan for every team we play. Clearly not happy with the overall performance v Forest so he spends the week in between improving things.
Also I thought Henneseys in Digbeth was a Blose pub as lots of Villa in there today so my son told me. The city is ours as always.
be okay today they took 500 thousand away to Sunderland so won't be back till after midnight
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That Saudi FC forum...surprised so many blind people can type.
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I'll just leave this here. https://www.themag.co.uk/2023/04/aston-villa-flat-track-bullies-and-heres-the-proof-or-are-they-a-serious-threat-to-newcastle-united/
He's right of course given that we have just destroyed what should be a mid table team
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I'm not nearly tactically savvy enough to explain why but it was fucking amazing how regularly we found ourselves in acres of space. It was almost as if they had had 2 players sent off or something.
I don't claim to be a an expert, but it looks like a balls-up from Howe. I think they'd been told to press Doug as he brought it out, knowing that we play it out from the back.
Buendia and Ramsey then split just behind Guimares. Given Doug is better at finding an angled pass than anyone else we have, he then just chooses one or the other to put it through to, and all of a sudden we had Watkins, Buendia, Ramsey and Moreno all running at their defence without any of their midfield in the way.
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That forum seems convinced we achieved it chiefly through time-wasting, diving and having the referee in our pockets. If that's what that looks like, sign me up.
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I'm not nearly tactically savvy enough to explain why but it was fucking amazing how regularly we found ourselves in acres of space. It was almost as if they had had 2 players sent off or something.
So that's you, me, Eddie Howe and Stevie G. :)
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They've achieved nothing so far and have only been a division of the official House of Saud Sportwashing Operation for five minutes, yet they've already turned into graceless twats.
Bunch of arrivistes. They'll be telling people to 'mind the gap' next.
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Newcastle supporters manage the difficult task of combining arrogance with the thinnest skins in football. It's admirable in its way.
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I'm not nearly tactically savvy enough to explain why but it was fucking amazing how regularly we found ourselves in acres of space. It was almost as if they had had 2 players sent off or something.
I don't claim to be a an expert, but it looks like a balls-up from Howe. I think they'd been told to press Doug as he brought it out, knowing that we play it out from the back.
Buendia and Ramsey then split just behind Guimares. Given Doug is better at finding an angled pass than anyone else we have, he then just chooses one or the other to put it through to, and all of a sudden we had Watkins, Buendia, Ramsey and Moreno all running at their defence without any of their midfield in the way.
Andi I thought playing Dendoncker was a master stroke. He stole everything off them when they did have the ball.
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Side note , who is patterson on the subs bench ?
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It just goes to show, you don't necessarily need to play with wingers. Which is a shame as I love a tricky winger.
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We have just thrashed the best Newcastle team in 20 years. Absolutely battered them. More is it isn’t a one off result. Or 2 or 3. Pro rata it is an 80 point season
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Just wait until he brings in his own players.
Fuck me this is ecciting isn't it|?
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That was as good a 90 minute performance as I've seen for god knows how long. Absolutely superb.
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The atmosphere was electric from the first minute too. More of that please. The hope and expectation is increasing.
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Wow just wow.
That’s one of those matches I wish I could have it as a 90 min full match on dvd and pop it on my shelf next to all the Oscar winning movies in my collection.
Pre-match I thought it’d be tight affair maybe a 1-1 and a Bertie worldie for 2-1. My worry was Dendocker (after his Stevenage clanger), 3 on Watkins to nullify him out the game and targeting on Young with their high press.
Well as usual thanks to Mr Emery and his meticulous methods, coaching, motivation we played superbly for the whole match considering the opponents and their form. Definitely like others have said a statement win.
We’re on a high as Villa fans and this party isn’t ending soon. Manure away is looking very tasty indeed.
Every player take a bow for your performance !
Another clean sheet !
Another game to score!
Opposition swept aside!
We’re on an upward trajectory- take that you barcodes!
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
Exactly my thoughts - in fact, I can't remember which top flight game I was last at where we've played so comprehensively well. Every player played to their strengths, and I thought the MF 5 were awesome; Luiz particularly (although Ramsey's passing and McGinn's tenacity were also impressive).
Dendonk played really well, and Watkins' movement was sublime.
The back four were similarly superb.
And - a mention to the crowd: the atmosphere was up there with the best at VP.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12857955/aston-villa-3-0-newcastle-premier-league-highlights
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Well that was nice!
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Best performance I've seen for a long time. Superb
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Yeah I think other than the 7-2 it’s the best we’ve played since MON and we rarely played that well under him. Watkins best ever performance, possibly Ramsey’s, as good as I’ve ever seen from Mings and the best I’ve seen Moreno so far. Ashley Young is really late 30s…? Fucking brilliant
But Unai really is the man, to get players that had been playing the way they had under other managers to play like that is some level of coaching and management.
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Fresh from apologising for a banner from 2009, Andy is composing a letter of apology for the bubble bursting we’ve just dished out.
We totally bossed that, it was fantastic!
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Andy Townsend saying right at the end of that highlights video 'that does not flatter Aston Villa at all today'. Get in there.
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Side note , who is patterson on the subs bench ?
Highly rated right back. Has been coveted by Spurs in the past and plays for one of the England youth sides.
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That was the most complete and best performance from Villa in ages. Everyone played so well for the whole game, we were on the front foot, and importantly the level of fitness and energy showed through again.
Players that would have been flagging early on the season are all so much fitter.
I was thinking about us tiring towards the end, and then I thought, well, we haven’t really run around that much. As our dad used to say ‘we let the ball do the work’.
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And I loved how we left 2 out when defending their first corner ... we should do that more.
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
Exactly my thoughts - in fact, I can't remember which top flight game I was last at where we've played so comprehensively well. Every player played to their strengths, and I thought the MF 5 were awesome; Luiz particularly (although Ramsey's passing and McGinn's tenacity were also impressive).
Dendonk played really well, and Watkins' movement was sublime.
The back four were similarly superb.
And - a mention to the crowd: the atmosphere was up there with the best at VP.
What I found most impressive is that we never seemed to be giving everything, it was calm, cool and controlled with 1-2 extra gears if we'd needed them and yet we were opening them up in midfield at will, as dominant a performance as you'll see anywhere in the world this weekend. That it came against the team in 3rd who were on a run of 5 wins was particularly impressive. The pre-match thread was full of worry and yet we can be rightly disappointed not to have scored more.
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A massive well done to Douglas Luiz today, absolutely superb, overshadowed Guimaraes imv and really set our tempo. The whole team were superb and like others have said I haven’t seen a complete team performance as good as that in many a year.
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Side note , who is patterson on the subs bench ?
Highly rated right back. Has been coveted by Spurs in the past and plays for one of the England youth sides.
Thanks, seems to have come from
nowhere 🤔
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
You could argue that today was better, because it wasn't in lockdown, which saw a few strange results in what were peculiar circumstances. Back then was a brilliant watch of course and I'll remember that game forever, but today felt more 'real' if that makes sense, and not just a flash in a pan.
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Just back home. Breathtaking. Magnificent. Outstanding. From number 1 to number 11 and also the man standing on the touchline, and the 42k who witnessed it, absolutely phenomenal - running out of adjectives. For those of you old enough to have witnessed games during our 80s championship winning season, or if you've seen youtube clips since, you probably thought you'd ever see football of that standard again; neither did I, until today. Wonderful stuff. Starting to look unbeatable.
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
You could argue that today was better, because it wasn't in lockdown, which saw a few strange results in what were peculiar circumstances. Back then was a brilliant watch of course and I'll remember that game forever, but today felt more 'real' if that makes sense, and not just a flash in a pan.
Yep, that's why I think this was better, not much in it though. Either way that was a proper home performance from a team that think they deserve top be top 6. If we see off Brentford and Fulham (as form suggests we should) then top 4 becomes a real possibility with us playing all 3 of the other challengers in the last 5 games.
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
You could argue that today was better, because it wasn't in lockdown, which saw a few strange results in what were peculiar circumstances. Back then was a brilliant watch of course and I'll remember that game forever, but today felt more 'real' if that makes sense, and not just a flash in a pan.
I always had the 2-0 won over Sheff Wed in '93 as the benchmark performance (might seem strange to younger posters bit they were unbeaten in 17 at the time).
I think today was better.
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Can’t wait to read Dave W’s take on that.
Absolutely superb 90 minutes and Villa Park was rocking
I love super Unai Emery
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I reckon that's the best we've played in about 15 years. The 7-2 against Liverpool is the only other game I can think of that comes close.
You could argue that today was better, because it wasn't in lockdown, which saw a few strange results in what were peculiar circumstances. Back then was a brilliant watch of course and I'll remember that game forever, but today felt more 'real' if that makes sense, and not just a flash in a pan.
I always had the 2-0 won over Sheff Wed in '93 as the benchmark performance (might seem strange to younger posters bit they were unbeaten in 17 at the time).
I think today was better.
Remember it well, we really looked like a title winning side that day (which we were going for) and the one goal was a masterclass of passing. It’s always the best when it’s primarily the team performance that stands out, like that day and like today. That’s what it’s all about.
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Wimbledon hadn't lost for ages when we did them 5-0. The 7-2 is still better than today or any other performance mentioned.
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I always had the 2-0 won over Sheff Wed in '93 as the benchmark performance (might seem strange to younger posters bit they were unbeaten in 17 at the time).
I think today was better.
Yes, that was a complete a team performance and one of my favourite games of all time . Like you, I think today eclipsed that.
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Fucking brilliant. That is all.
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It’s great that we are so lucky luck lucky.
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Wimbledon hadn't lost for ages when we did them 5-0. The 7-2 is still better than today or any other performance mentioned.
Except I wasn’t at that game.
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It’s great that we are so lucky luck lucky.
Strange that the more we practice with Emery the luckier we get. 😁
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The fitness levels have improved dramatically, Buendia in past games would have been finished after sixty minutes but today he was a litttle terrier from go to wo. All credit to Emre he has given us back the dream.
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the fixture that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposition, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the preplanned pack-hunting in the press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holte cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and glory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
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In terms of thrashing a team in the upper echelons I think Everton were top when we spanked them 6-2 in 89? I still remember Brian Moore... "it's astonishing, this!"
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Cursing have missed this with this lurgy...
Cheer up, you've got Millwall v Blose on Tuesday.
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the future that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposizione, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the previsioni pack-hunting in the Press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holter cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and hlory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Lovely post.
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The only time I felt a tad worried was when they bought Callum Wilson on and went two up front. I shouldnt have. And he went to the World Cup?
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the future that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposizione, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the previsioni pack-hunting in the Press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holter cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and hlory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Spot on Monty and yes we are special hopefully the stars are aligning
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the future that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposizione, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the previsioni pack-hunting in the Press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holter cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and hlory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Lovely post.
Agreed. Lovely
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The only time I felt a tad worried was when they bought Callum Wilson on and went two up front. I shouldnt have. And he went to the World Cup?
Tonev was the only other option and he was frozen out because of the betting stuff, which bizarrely doesn't seem to matter now.
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The only time I felt a tad worried was when they bought Callum Wilson on and went two up front. I shouldnt have. And he went to the World Cup?
Same here, I thought Almiron and Wilson would do well, but I hardly noticed them.
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the future that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposizione, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the previsioni pack-hunting in the Press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holter cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and hlory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Beautiful post
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I liked how we responded to the VAR call not going our way, we sang even louder, swarmed all over them and forced the second.
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I liked how we responded to the VAR call not going our way, we sang even louder, swarmed all over them and forced the second.
Forgot about that actually.
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The only time I felt a tad worried was when they bought Callum Wilson on and went two up front. I shouldnt have. And he went to the World Cup?
Tonev was the only other option and he was frozen out because of the betting stuff, which bizarrely doesn't seem to matter now.
Tonev?! - has his 'shot' re-entered the Earth's atmosphere yet?
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Toney, fucking autocorrect.
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I liked how we responded to the VAR call not going our way, we sang even louder, swarmed all over them and forced the second.
Yeah it made the second all the sweeter - showing how far we have come and can take set backs in our stride
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the fixture that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposizione, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the previsioni pack-hunting in the Press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holter cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and glory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Great post.
UTV
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Well, that was something....
Lovely stuff, glad you enjoyed the day and more importantly broke your home hoodoo. Please come back again soon if today's anything to go by.
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Monty, magnificent!
As was the team today
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I'm a sad c**t who has nothing on so I had a look on some forum called toontastic and they are all, bar 2 posters, massive ******. Genuine, deluded pricks. I was reading their match thread thinking 'this place is nothing like this'. Have we got most of our dickhead fans on another forum? My first reaction is 'well you get knobs online' but it was at such a staggering level of c**tishness. Such a shame that they'll get top 4.
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Told a Man Utd supporting guy at work that if Emery had been in charge of us since the start of the season we could have been up there with Newcastle and he thought it was hilarious. Tried telling me their squad is so much better than ours. Can't fucking wait to see him now.
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Told a Man Utd supporting guy at work that if Emery had been in charge of us since the start of the season we could have been up there with Newcastle and he thought it was hilarious. Tried telling me their squad is so much better than ours. Can't fucking wait to see him now.
We’re up there with Newcastle anyway! If he was in from the start we’d be up there with Arsenal and Man City.
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That was the best atmosphere I've been there for since the 5-1 all those years ago. My youngest sons first game too - he must think it's like that all the time.
The best performance for a ver very long time (for me better than the 7-2 because of the complete dominance and control).
Emery is building something extremely special here and I can't wait to see it.
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The fitness levels have improved dramatically, Buendia in past games would have been finished after sixty minutes but today he was a litttle terrier from go to wo. All credit to Emre he has given us back the dream.
Yes that was one of my observations.
I think a big problem with Villa sides over the years is we never seem to get enough players forward, always a bit conservative. The odd times that we have it’s usually been at the expense of leakages at the other end. I looked at the team and on the face of it, it could appear that it doesn’t look particularly attacking but it didn’t seem to matter because the passing was so accurate and the timing of the runs so good that even without loads forward we were still dangerous and effective. Then there were other times when we did seem to get players forward from midfield and I think it’s the much better fitness levels which enabled this.
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Told a Man Utd supporting guy at work that if Emery had been in charge of us since the start of the season we could have been up there with Newcastle and he thought it was hilarious. Tried telling me their squad is so much better than ours. Can't fucking wait to see him now.
We’re up there with Newcastle anyway! If he was in from the start we’d be up there with Arsenal and Man City.
Basically what I said to him. They're only 6 points and three places above us. Not outrageous to think we'd have those extra points at least if we had Emery over Gerrard. I don't look at their squad and think it's any better than ours. Howe has done well to get them where they are.
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It’s not that good and it’s credit to Howe that they’ve done as well as they have. He got fucked over today by someone even better !
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I quite like Howe, seems a decent bloke. He's done an amazing job.
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I quite like Howe, seems a decent bloke. He's done an amazing job.
Yes, same here. He’s done a really good job there, he was just unlucky to come up against our unstoppable force today.
Incidentally, was that a different Botman playing today? I was led to believe the real one was quite good!
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I quite like Howe, seems a decent bloke. He's done an amazing job.
Him and his assistant being in the fourth official's ear all game isn't a great look. And he was damning with faint praise in his post-match today. Kind of feel he could be a bit of a tit given the chance.
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Today we didn't just outplay Newcastle. We outclassed them. Let that sink in.
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Unai Emery is some kind of tactical genius. Last week, it was edgy as you might expect against a team battling for survival. So we played accordingly, patiently and hit them when we needed to. Not a great watch but a vital win when many teams would have buckled. Contrast with today - fast start, really went for dominance as we knew they had come to win too. Completely different 'look' from last week, but the same result.
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Anyone notice that the scoreboard was still showing 2-0 after the disallowed goal and then Ollie scored the one that counted - so they left the scoreboard as it was. 3 minutes between the two 'goals'.
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
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Anyone notice that the scoreboard was still showing 2-0 after the disallowed goal and then Ollie scored the one that counted - so they left the scoreboard as it was. 3 minutes between the two 'goals'.
Was PWS on the scoreboard?
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the fixture that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposition, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the preplanned pack-hunting in the press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holte cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and glory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
Great post, Monty, glad you had such a good game to enjoy!
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
Yes it meant their centre backs had to stay back and couldn’t use their height to cause problems. What a win! Can’t think of the last time we played that well at villa park against a top 4 team (when we were allowed in).
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
Unai mentioned Newcastle and corners post match, he really does seem to study every detail.
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
Unai mentioned Newcastle and corners post match, he really does seem to study every detail.
Speaking of corners, how many times did they let us play the short ball down the byline, creating a 3v1? Thought that was really odd.
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Well, that was something.
First time back at VP since the pandemic, first game since my grandad died, seeing my Nan who's been in hospital, and of all games to grace with my cursed presence I choose the fixture that probably I want to win more than any other. When I think of the Villa, and the family connection going back virtually to it's foundation, and I put that against the Saudi sportswashing project... well, I guess the distinction just feels sharp.
A good time then for Villa to bring out the best performance I've ever seen them put in live. Considering the opposition, league position and form combined, the total domination we managed was almost shocking to see. We had their number everywhere, including the dugout: yes, the middielders battled brillantly, but the preplanned pack-hunting in the press points to great coaching; sure, McGinn made Burns look a rank jabroni punk, but Emery's tactic of using him as a kind of into-feet (or chest) target man was a masterstroke; and obviously, Watkins was a monster on and off the ball, but the way we always always found him in space was a team thing, synchronised movement like a machine.
This happened everywhere - Moreno was immense, Buendia was an utter pest, Luiz elegant work to back it up, Mings channelling Laursen, with Konsa supporting with supercompetence (we have such a great offside trap). Ramsey, God, I love so much how he takes the ball on the half-turn, always ready to roll off some hapless mug. Young, I don't know, there must be a portrait in his attic he doesn't let anyone see. And Emi - when he fell down on the ball late on and the Holte cheered, when he geed them up after a save, when he tapped their striker patronisingly on the head, honestly, I died laughing.
And finally, a word on us - when Villa Park is in full voice it shows you why we're special. All the power and might and glory of a big club with the pride, love and sense of humour of just your neighbourhood team. I know every club is special to those who love it, but seriously - we're a bit special.
that goes back to the days of the old third division when luckily we had people who loved the club and weren't prepared to let Aston Villa Football Club die, not like certain football clubs close to home, many times they have given heartache, but days like today this is why I am Villa Till I Die and that what I will insist I have on my gravestone, because if it isn't my son and wife won't be getting any inheritance
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Monty's right. It was a really good atmosphere from the off and I think Ollie's chance in the first minute I helped.
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
Unai mentioned Newcastle and corners post match, he really does seem to study every detail.
Speaking of corners, how many times did they let us play the short ball down the byline, creating a 3v1? Thought that was really odd.
They couldn't stop it, they must have felt like they'd been in a washing machine fir the first 10 minutes and never recovered.
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Outclassed them from start to finish. Emery is a bit special, ain’t he…
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Not read the thread but I thought that, given the league position and form of the opposition, that was as good as we've played for many years, certainly since we came back up. Every single player was better than his counterpart and if we had won 7-0 it would have been a fair reflection of the game. We had then at arms length from first to last.
It looked like a PL team against a girls u10s, utterly dominant.
Had to smile at the bitter Geordies in the coach park, 'you are the worst fans in the world' I had to congratulate one on winning the 'fans who think they are the bestest supporters trophy' again. And again.
Fuck me we were good today.
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3(three) hours ago, nufc's facebook page posted this... https://fb.watch/jWKM9sPzhf/
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Mind blown at that result. This was the one I was most worried about, and cannot believe what we witnessed today. Every single player played their part and now everyone is starting to take notice (not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing tbh)..
Spurs are well within reach now, and the next team we’ll leapfrog imo. Our biggest threat to European football are all the games in hand that the teams around us seem to have accumulated.
Villa Park atmosphere was brilliant today too - especially considering it was the early kickoff. Lost my voice up in the Trinity.
On to Brentford now - UTV
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Everyone 10/10. Absolutely magnificent. What a season this is turning into.
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Just got back. Long day out. Been smiling for most of it. Possibly our best team performance this Century.
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And without the seasons best player.
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Just put the telly on to warm up the tube for MOTD and “Magpie Murders” is on.
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In reality, we didn't allow them to turn up because we were more dominant over them than a BDSM madame.
Can I use that?
🤣🤣🤣
You're more than welcome... 👍
We moved the ball forward so much quicker than they probably expected. We hardly played our usual triangles at the back.
They press quite aggressively, so we just bypassed it by putting the ball forward quicker & took out a third of their team... I think they expected to be able to close us down & stop us from building out from the back. So Emerys minor tweak in our tactics completely bamboozled them, lol... Its probably a lot more complicated than that, but Im a simple man...
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I didn't go today. I went to Twycross zoo. I was led to believe by comments left on the beeb football feed that once again, for the umpteenth time, we were fortunate to come up against a team putting in their worst performance of the season. What are the chances of that, week after week?
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It's a great feeling when you look forward to watching MOTD.
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Great performance from every single player. Each of them won their individual battles hands down.
Another masterclass from Emery, executed to the letter by the players. We should fear nobody now.
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Unai Emery is some kind of tactical genius. Last week, it was edgy as you might expect against a team battling for survival. So we played accordingly, patiently and hit them when we needed to. Not a great watch but a vital win when many teams would have buckled. Contrast with today - fast start, really went for dominance as we knew they had come to win too. Completely different 'look' from last week, but the same result.
Spot on martyn
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I see that Villa are now reaping the benefits of all that excellent ground work Gerrard put in!
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Look at these wankers
https://twitter.com/utv58/status/1647292504625016834?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
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Look at these wankers
https://twitter.com/utv58/status/1647292504625016834?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
This is far funnier
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If you leave aside the nauseating self celebratory supporters, you've got to say Howe has done a wonderful job with a very ordinary set of players. Very one paced and plenty of their side looked simply lacking in basic technique. He's done really well to make this silk purse.
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MOTD on early tonight!
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Howe got utterly owned today. He came with a high press with plenty of players which left both Ramsey Buendia and to a degree McGinn with loads of space for us to play chipped balls into the space
Behind their advanced midfield. They had no answer and ended up being caught between wanting to press and realising we could take out their entire midfield with one ball. In addition their press was fucking useless and we always seems to find a way to progress the ball. All in all we’d done our homework particularly on that donkey Burn and gave them a proper shoeing. I think someone else has mentioned it but the short corner routine we did about 5 times which created numerous chances and which they did fuck all about was bizarre.
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
That is a delightful thread to read from page 1 to the end... 😂
The arrogance at the start. The sucker punch of the performance. The realisation of what was happening. The desperate desire to look for excuses. The tears & hatred as the result starts to sink in. More excuses & hatred. More tears & a couple of tantrums. But with a couple, & I mean two, acceptance of the situation & some praise for the team that just butt fucked them.
They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
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MOTD :on early tonight!
Just watched us. So funny to see Aston Villa superfan Danny Murphy looking so pissed off in the studio! ;D
Still got a smile on my face...
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If you leave aside the nauseating self celebratory supporters, you've got to say Howe has done a wonderful job with a very ordinary set of players. Very one paced and plenty of their side looked simply lacking in basic technique. He's done really well to make this silk purse.
Worth mentioning again, he's done a phenomenal job there if you look at some of the dross in that squad.
He's a very good manager indeed.
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Howe got utterly owned today. He came with a high press with plenty of players which left both Ramsey Buendia and to a degree McGinn with loads of space for us to play chipped balls into the space
Behind their advanced midfield. They had no answer and ended up being caught between wanting to press and realising we could take out their entire midfield with one ball. In addition their press was fucking useless and we always seems to find a way to progress the ball. All in all we’d done our homework particularly on that donkey Burn and gave them a proper shoeing. I think someone else has mentioned it but the short corner routine we did about 5 times which created numerous chances and which they did fuck all about was bizarre.
Spot on. I'm pretty sure Howe commented, in his pre-match press conference, that Villa rarely changed how they play - basically suggesting he didn't think we'd deviate from our normal passing out from the back. We did indeed change, and Howe fell into the trap beautifully.
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That is a delightful thread to read from page 1 to the end... 😂
The arrogance at the start.
Forget the arrogance, the 'kin GIFs at the start of the thread. I've not read on as my eyes are hurting.
It's like early man learning to communicate via cave paintings as they've not developed a written language yet.
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If you leave aside the nauseating self celebratory supporters, you've got to say Howe has done a wonderful job with a very ordinary set of players. Very one paced and plenty of their side looked simply lacking in basic technique. He's done really well to make this silk purse.
Worth mentioning again, he's done a phenomenal job there if you look at some of the dross in that squad.
He's a very good manager indeed.
Agreed. He is doing an incredible job there.
That is a delightful thread to read from page 1 to the end... 😂
The arrogance at the start.
Forget the arrogance, the 'kin GIFs at the start of the thread. I've not read on as my eyes are hurting.
It's like early man learning to communicate via cave paintings as they've not developed a written language yet.
😂 They are a little over the top tbf...
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So Bournemouth got another impressive result today, but we beat them 3-0.
Newcastle were on a run of 5 wins in a row but we beat them 3-0.
I see a lot of comments saying how our opposition were poor in these games, but I don't know, maybe we just made them look bad? Because, well, we're good?
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
That is a delightful thread to read from page 1 to the end... 😂
The arrogance at the start. The sucker punch of the performance. The realisation of what was happening. The desperate desire to look for excuses. The tears & hatred as the result starts to sink in. More excuses & hatred. More tears & a couple of tantrums. But with a couple, & I mean two, acceptance of the situation & some praise for the team that just butt fucked them.
They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
I’ve never read anything like it. They are on another level and that’s not only the fans. After their League Cup Final defeat they’ve got a member of the board telling everyone that will listen that they’ll win everything. They’ve won nothing since the 50’s and all of a sudden they are world beaters. It’s staggering it really is.
I’ve never really had a problem with them but they’re believing the hype and we all know how it’ll end again.
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So Bournemouth got another impressive result today, but we beat them 3-0.
Newcastle were on a run of 5 wins in a row but we beat them 3-0.
I see a lot of comments saying how our opposition were poor in these games, but I don't know, maybe we just made them look bad? Because, well, we're good?
Nah we're just lucky.
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
V Forest last week we did it every time 10 in box.. Really annoyed me
Clearly Emery knows whe to do it and when not to.
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
Great day all round, Villa hammered the Jaudis and Monty saw one of the best games of his life at Villa Park. More importantly, TV smashed through the 50k post barrier becoming only the 7th Villa poster to do that in the Premier League era.
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That was the best atmosphere I've been there for since the 5-1 all those years ago. My youngest sons first game too - he must think it's like that all the time.
The best performance for a ver very long time (for me better than the 7-2 because of the complete dominance and control).
Emery is building something extremely special here and I can't wait to see it.
Quite the baptism…good parenting ⚽️👊🦁
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
Great day all round, Villa hammered the Jaudis and Monty saw one of the best games of his life at Villa Park. More importantly, TV smashed through the 50k post barrier becoming only the 7th Villa poster to do that in the Premier League era.
Well done, TV!
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
Great day all round, Villa hammered the Jaudis and Monty saw one of the best games of his life at Villa Park. More importantly, TV smashed through the 50k post barrier becoming only the 7th Villa poster to do that in the Premier League era.
Haha bloody hell hadn’t even noticed. Fuck me that’s one way of evaluating the immense waste in one’s life. Hopefully the next 50k we will all be celebrating much better times as fans of Aston Villa.
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
Great day all round, Villa hammered the Jaudis and Monty saw one of the best games of his life at Villa Park. More importantly, TV smashed through the 50k post barrier becoming only the 7th Villa poster to do that in the Premier League era.
Haha bloody hell hadn’t even noticed. Fuck me that’s one way of evaluating the immense waste in one’s life. Hopefully the next 50k we will all be celebrating much better times as fans of Aston Villa.
Another who's output has increased under Emery.
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Just watched it on MOTD, it was nearly as exciting seeing it 2nd time round, it's been a long time, since I could say.
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Fucking hell. That was simply astonishing. We are not used to this, but that was control personified. A brilliant team performance and in Ollie we have one of th emost in form forwards in Europe. Outstanding every single on of them.
Great day all round, Villa hammered the Jaudis and Monty saw one of the best games of his life at Villa Park. More importantly, TV smashed through the 50k post barrier becoming only the 7th Villa poster to do that in the Premier League era.
Haha bloody hell hadn’t even noticed. Fuck me that’s one way of evaluating the immense waste in one’s life. Hopefully the next 50k we will all be celebrating much better times as fans of Aston Villa.
Another who's output has increased under Emery.
I’ve balanced it out now given the vitriol I had towards Lego head. But no doubt, the mere mention of Emery gives me a spontaneous chubby in my trousers more often than not.
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Dougie was superb today. The way he held the ball until he could dink it to Moreno or find him with the cutting pass behind their fullback was top notch stuff.
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Dougie was superb today. The way he held the ball until he could dink it to Moreno or find him with the cutting pass behind their fullback was top notch stuff.
Yeah got the feeling that being up against two of his compatriots in midfield really spurred him on. Got the better of the pair of them and had a very good game.
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Dougie was superb today. The way he held the ball until he could dink it to Moreno or find him with the cutting pass behind their fullback was top notch stuff.
Yeah got the feeling that being up against two of his compatriots in midfield really spurred him on. Got the better of the pair of them and had a very good game.
Dougie was awesome. He was like "you can kick me as much as you want, I'll keep on going".
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Burn should have been booked and off the persistent fouling was ridiculous.
They are a niggly bunch and there were lots of fouls spread amongst them, which seems to be happening to us a lot. That suggests to me that teams are really struggling to work us out and are having to resort to foul play. The worry is that someone will get a nasty injury as a result.
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'Holte End, exuberant'
Great stuff.
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Burn should have been booked and off the persistent fouling was ridiculous.
They are a niggly bunch and there were lots of fouls spread amongst them, which seems to be happening to us a lot. That suggests to me that teams are really struggling to work us out and are having to resort to foul play. The worry is that someone will get a nasty injury as a result.
Spot on, Drummond.
I thought Newcastle played very much how Bournemouth used to play. Niggly, dirty. Not good to watch at all. The ref should have booked more of theirs than he did, and put an end to their behaviour much earlier.
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They was one point in the game when Newcastle had a corner, normally everyone is in the penalty area defending, but this one time he stuck two Villa players on the halfway line, causing Newcastle to do the same I thought I like this Emery bloke
V Forest last week we did it every time 10 in box.. Really annoyed me
Clearly Emery knows whe to do it and when not to.
That was quite unique in modern football and we could have scored from that corner. When the ball broke from our end Moreno almost played it over the defenders head at halfway line putting Buendia clear for a chance. Defender just about managed to divert it away.
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Well, that was something.........
Very pleased for you and your family Monty. Enjoy the rest of your stay here.
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Had quite a few people message me since the result yesterday and I’m following the same approach as I have over the last few weeks; nothing to see here: Fulham, Brighton, Brentford, Spudz is where it’s at. London way keep on keeping on. I’m waiting for the slow pokes to only realise what’s going on once game 38 hits - as slow as the media are as usual. I’m embracing their ignorance.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
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Saturday, 15th April 2023:
Master technician, masterclass, masterpiece, masturbate.
(Unai, the players and staff take all the credit for the first three)
Newcastle are 'our' Mona Lisa. :)
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A superb performance from start to finish from us, very enjoyable; we made them look like a lower division team- their manager did in his post match interview hold on to that they had a day off ... - the commentators on the canal I was watching said in the break they would be very suprised if Newcastle didnt come back and lead the game second half, what they did say after the game I coudnt hear as the pub I where in began to be crowded with unrespectable and too noisy fans of others team coming in to watch next games. What about Newcastle and their manager are overhyped I was thinking.
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Re run of fill match on BT2 starting now.
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Ask yourselves, who was our worst player? There simply wasn’t one. Every one of them was superb.
Unai Emery is looking like the best manager we have had in modern times, and I include Saunders in that.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
They had a lot less than 20k at some of their games in 80’s. 4/5k if my memory serves me correctly. Like Chelsea.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
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Absolutely incredible.
What has Unai done to these players? We have been getting the wins and not being that exciting to watch but yesterday was something else. I can't remember a better performance at Villa Park
Superb
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Every single player contributed to one of the most complete performances I can remember. They have all clearly absorbed everything Emery has been showing them and with the intelligence to adapt to the tweaks in the game plan required for each new challenge. It was a special performance but there is absolutely no sense of us having peaked.
In the pub after the game my nephew reminded me of how I dampened his youthful enthusiasm during the height of the MON period by saying enjoy it because with the Villa it never seems to last. He asked how I felt this time and could only say that it feels that there is real substance to it with owners and manager 100% committed to the cause.
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Can't stop smiling this morning. My wife thinks I'm having an affair
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
Take away every other club with about sixty miles of Villa Park except one from a place where the locals won't have anything to do with Birmingham for reasons going back to the civil war, give us a fawning national media and see what gates we get.
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
Take away every other club with about sixty miles of Villa Park except one from a place where the locals won't have anything to do with Birmingham for reasons going back to the civil war, give us a fawning national media and see what gates we get.
Population 300,004 against 1.15m.
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
They also draw support from vast swathes of Northumberland where there are no other league clubs. Morpeth, Ashington, Blyth, Hexham are all Newcastle supporting areas.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
Their lowest average attendance in the top flight (since WWI) was just over 21k in 1988. Ours was 15k in 1986, 4 years after being European Champions. Man Utd or Liverpool have had the highest average attendance in England every season since 1964. Before that it was spread more evenly, and Newcastle featured heavily. Again, Newcastle is a one club city, but they are clearly relatively well supported.
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Looking at the game again now Watkins scored his second Southgate didn't look that happy,managed a wry smile
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As said by so many such a brilliant team performance yesterday leaving me struggling to think of one as good in recent times.
Amongst everything the speed of the pass and the incredible energy of everyone both on and especially off the ball as the way we hunted the ball down out of possession was sensational.
Thanks to the team and manager for such an amazing day.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
Take away every other club with about sixty miles of Villa Park except one from a place where the locals won't have anything to do with Birmingham for reasons going back to the civil war, give us a fawning national media and see what gates we get.
Population 300,004 against 1.15m.
And the surrounding area?
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The villa players should have given their shirts to the Newcastle supporters at the end of the match. Poor deluded topless Geordies.
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Best performance, considering the opposition, I can remember for years. Every single player was exceptional. What a day.
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Best performance, considering the opposition, I can remember for years. Every single player was exceptional. What a day.
I agree Des. My dad has been following Villa for 55 years and said the same thing.
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Looking at the game again now Watkins scored his second Southgate didn't look that happy,managed a wry smile
Southgate’s advice would probably be “son, you’re doing ok, but to elevate your game, you need to move to a sky 6 team and sit on the bench. I remember when I wanted to take my career to the next level and went to Middlesbrough. It was the best thing I ever did. I’m not sure how the two correlate but I pick players on the pressure I might be get from the sky 6. So have a word with kalvin Phillips and Joe and get going. You know I don’t pick players on form.”
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Can't stop smiling this morning. My wife thinks I'm having an affair
You are and she lives at B6.
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Best performance, considering the opposition, I can remember for years. Every single player was exceptional. What a day.
It's difficult to compare it with games of yore as it's a different game these days. I'd say it was a performance better than anything I've seen in 15 years. The 7-2 over Liverpool can't be comparable as none of us were there and anyway regardless of that scoreline where everything that was hit at goal went in this was a much more measured performance of dominance. We outplayed, outfought and out thought Newcastle in every aspect of the game.
If Emery's additions to the team next season are of the quality of Moreno then who knows where he can take us. Great time to be a Villan. I'm more optimistic than when MO'N was in his peak with us.
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Anyone notice that the scoreboard was still showing 2-0 after the disallowed goal and then Ollie scored the one that counted - so they left the scoreboard as it was. 3 minutes between the two 'goals'.
The babby pointed out that it still said 2-0 after the disallowed one, but in fact they’d changed it back to 1-0 by the time I looked. Then we scored.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
I don't think we have ever tried to pass ourselves off as the most loyal fans in all of football history based on attendances though...
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
The way they go on, they have always had huge numbers. Granted, they got them after their title challenge & Champs League exploits & fair enough, they kept most of them, but before that, they had shitty to average numbers.
And that is with them being the only club in their area.
How shit have we been recently & we have what, 15k - 20k waiting for season tickets?
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The villa players should have given their shirts to the Newcastle supporters at the end of the match. Poor deluded topless Geordies.
They’d never have got them on the fat bastards.
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https://twitter.com/jayvtid/status/1647367671019720705?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
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https://twitter.com/jayvtid/status/1647367671019720705?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Lovely stuff 😂
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https://twitter.com/jayvtid/status/1647367671019720705?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
The twat is on drugs
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https://twitter.com/jayvtid/status/1647367671019720705?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
The bitching about being out-shithoused is delicious...
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Watched MOTD this morning. Full of praise for Villa and rightly so, but interestingly hardly said a word about how shit Newcastle were...
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
I don't think we have ever tried to pass ourselves off as the most loyal fans in all of football history based on attendances though...
Certain cities have always built up myths about themselves, Liverpool that it's got a particularly great sense of humour, Newcastle that it's got the most passionate supporters, London that it's the centre of the fucking universe or something.
But Birmingham never has. It's always been modest and self-effacing
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Watched MOTD this morning. Full of praise for Villa and rightly so, but interestingly hardly said a word about how shit Newcastle were...
Every time I've seen them they look like a limited, cynical, dirty if well-drilled Sam Allardyce side. That's what they looked like yesterday too. Villa are playing a whole level above that at the moment and like others, I don't think we've peaked.
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
Liverpool 5-1 demolition for me. 76?
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
Yep I was at that game. I remember Tony Morley absolutely terrorising them down the left. 3-0 was a massive underrepresentation of how one-sided the game was
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https://twitter.com/jayvtid/status/1647367671019720705?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
I’m sure what he meant to say was Villa were superior in every area of the pitch and we were lucky not to have a lot more booked. Once he’s stopped crying I’m sure he’ll update us all.
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
Yep I was at that game. I remember Tony Morley absolutely terrorising them down the left. 3-0 was a massive underrepresentation of how one-sided the game was
Same timescale for me from the mid-70s
The Three Liverpool games
The 5-1 the 7-2 and the semi-final at Wembley all stick in the mind
But Yesterday was right up there for a perfect 90 minutes
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
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I'm beginning to enjoy the opposition having an off day.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's been busy sending his deepest apologies to the Newcastle fans for the result yesterday.
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He didn’t get back from Sunderland until late last night so he’s having a lie in.
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A brilliant win and brilliant performance.
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Again, missed this because of work and had to watch MOTD highlights. I was really confident that we’d win but what a result. I was getting really fed up with the media’s attitude of “Villa have done well but they’re playing Newcastle now” Absolutely outstanding performance from everyone
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I predicted a defeat on here, would've taken a draw pre match as would my mates but I did point out that we have Emery so the potential win was always possible.
As misanthropic Brummies we take some convincing at times but after yesterday I'm convinced. We are on the verge of something very, very special.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
What a fucking twat! He reminds me of when I was an undergraduate student, we were out and about and a girl had a funny turn and fell over. We stopped to assist and somebody (could have been Andy's dad for all I know) ran up shouting "Let me through I'm an undergraduate!"*
*I was WTFing so much that I didn't ask what he was reading. Media Studies most likely.
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They are a nothing club, who have won fuck all for about 70 years, had 20k average attendances pre-90's yet are self proclaimed "amazing fans", but I do enjoy beating them purely because of pure & utter deluded chumpish clueless twatting wankers like those on that thread... 🤣
To be fair we also had 20k average attendances pre-90s, that was just English football. The fact is that they have always been a relatively well supported club, albeit in a one club city. I agree that there is a media narrative that some clubs have amazing fans, and others don’t. It normally correlates with a stereotype about socio-economics, and not having much else to do, which is disappointing.
Newcastle are a phenomenally well supported side given the only people who can remember them winning anything are grandparent-age folk. I don't know much about the relative attendances in the 80s, but from what I can see they've been getting 50k+ crowds on a regular basis for 25 years.
Take away every other club with about sixty miles of Villa Park except one from a place where the locals won't have anything to do with Birmingham for reasons going back to the civil war, give us a fawning national media and see what gates we get.
Population 300,004 against 1.15m.
And the surrounding area?
Birmingham has the largest conurbation outside London. Dwarfs Tyneside. I'm all for giving them stick, but keep it real.
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I'm all for not giving a fuck what they say, sing, blog vlog, post or do. All that matters is they got fucking steam-rollered by Emery's Mean Machine. Totally spanked all over the park.
Also, "Have you ever won the European Cup?"
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I have been absent from the site some time and haven`t been to a game for a while - due to ongoing health issues
My son (VCTM jnr) took me to our local in Formby yesterday as a treat and we met up with a fellow Brummie who lives close to us
I was totally blown away by the way we took the game to the Geordies from the off - it was a joy to watch.
After the game I said to my son that the performance was one of the best I had ever seen - it was a total team effort
In 60 + years of watching the Villa that was up there as one of the most enjoyable
It is indicative that so many of us elder fans have expressed similar opinions
The way we played the game reminded me of the Ron Saunders 110% effort era, where every player gave their all for the team
Exciting times ahead
UTV
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That's all very well but what did Klopp say when you passed him on the way back from the pub?
Only joking. I hope your health improves as much as Villa have improved their game. All the best.
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Great to hear from you Clive, hope you’re well fella.
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VCTM's reminder of the 110% Saunders quote has inspired me to, ahem, change my forum signature to 120% The Full Unai Emery©
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
Liverpool 5-1 demolition for me. 76?
But then we spoiled it by having our bad half.🙄
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Great to hear from you Clive. Good luck with everything mate.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
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I have been absent from the site some time and haven`t been to a game for a while - due to ongoing health issues
My son (VCTM jnr) took me to our local in Formby yesterday as a treat and we met up with a fellow Brummie who lives close to us
I was totally blown away by the way we took the game to the Geordies from the off - it was a joy to watch.
After the game I said to my son that the performance was one of the best I had ever seen - it was a total team effort
In 60 + years of watching the Villa that was up there as one of the most enjoyable
It is indicative that so many of us elder fans have expressed similar opinions
The way we played the game reminded me of the Ron Saunders 110% effort era, where every player gave their all for the team
Exciting times ahead
UTV
Great to see you back mate!
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Side note , who is patterson on the subs bench ?
Highly rated right back. Has been coveted by Spurs in the past and plays for one of the England youth sides.
Thanks, seems to have come from
nowhere 🤔
He has been out for nearly a year due to a stress fracture, that he has been put straight into the first team squad shows how highly he his thought of.
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Best performance, considering the opposition, I can remember for years. Every single player was exceptional. What a day.
It's difficult to compare it with games of yore as it's a different game these days. I'd say it was a performance better than anything I've seen in 15 years. The 7-2 over Liverpool can't be comparable as none of us were there and anyway regardless of that scoreline where everything that was hit at goal went in this was a much more measured performance of dominance. We outplayed, outfought and out thought Newcastle in every aspect of the game.
If Emery's additions to the team next season are of the quality of Moreno then who knows where he can take us. Great time to be a Villan. I'm more optimistic than when MO'N was in his peak with us.
Exactly, Bren.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
Can you bum someone anywhere else than in the arse?
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I have been absent from the site some time and haven`t been to a game for a while - due to ongoing health issues
My son (VCTM jnr) took me to our local in Formby yesterday as a treat and we met up with a fellow Brummie who lives close to us
I was totally blown away by the way we took the game to the Geordies from the off - it was a joy to watch.
After the game I said to my son that the performance was one of the best I had ever seen - it was a total team effort
In 60 + years of watching the Villa that was up there as one of the most enjoyable
It is indicative that so many of us elder fans have expressed similar opinions
The way we played the game reminded me of the Ron Saunders 110% effort era, where every player gave their all for the team
Exciting times ahead
UTV
Terrific stuff VCTM
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I’ve been watching Villa since 1975. I can not think of a more commanding, complete team performance.
Middlesbrough 81 for me, but yesterday was as good.
Yep I was at that game. I remember Tony Morley absolutely terrorising them down the left. 3-0 was a massive underrepresentation of how one-sided the game was
Same timescale for me from the mid-70s
The Three Liverpool games
The 5-1 the 7-2 and the semi-final at Wembley all stick in the mind
But Yesterday was right up there for a perfect 90 minutes
Yes, John, those games were the ones that came to my mind. I'd add the Villa-Liverpool game of 1981 (2-0) as well, and the Leeds LCF of 1996.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
Second time you’ve made this kind of comment since yesterday. I appreciate we’re all happy to have taken Newcastle to the cleaners yesterday but the homophobic stuff is just totally unnecessary.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
Second time you’ve made this kind of comment since yesterday. I appreciate we’re all happy to have taken Newcastle to the cleaners yesterday but the homophobic stuff is just totally unnecessary.
Don't be ridiculous.
Its not homophobic.
Its the sort of language I use with both of my gay brothers & it mostly comes from them, so please don't try your overly PC virtue signalling nonsense with me...
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
Second time you’ve made this kind of comment since yesterday. I appreciate we’re all happy to have taken Newcastle to the cleaners yesterday but the homophobic stuff is just totally unnecessary.
Don't be ridiculous.
Its not homophobic.
Its the sort of language I use with both of my gay brothers & it mostly comes from them, so please don't try your overly PC virtue signalling nonsense with me...
It's offensive, it's homophobic and if you want to keep using phrases like that last one you can do it somewhere else.
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Has anybody checked in on Andy “why can’t we all be football friends” Macfarlane?
He's writing up his apology for us bumming them in the arse on national TV...
Second time you’ve made this kind of comment since yesterday. I appreciate we’re all happy to have taken Newcastle to the cleaners yesterday but the homophobic stuff is just totally unnecessary.
Don't be ridiculous.
Its not homophobic.
Its the sort of language I use with both of my gay brothers & it mostly comes from them, so please don't try your overly PC virtue signalling nonsense with me...
It's offensive, it's homophobic and if you want to keep using phrases like that last one you can do it somewhere else.
If it offends people, then thats fine. Say so in a normal manner & I will apologise for the offence.
But it is NOT homophobic.
If somebody thinks that it is, then they should explain why. Maybe it says more about the person who thinks it is than it does about me, because both men & women have arses. The point is it was a childish jesting way of saying it was painful for them. Nothing more. Nothing less. I didn't specifically state man, woman, trans, etc...
So being accused of being homophobic, when I have & love, two gay brothers, who I banter with back & forth (meaning they say shit like that to me all the time) with phrases like that in jest, is incredibly offensive to me.
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We've had this before and we're not going through it again.
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Fuckin’ hell, “virtue-signalling”. Crank alert.
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
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The "Some of my best friends are black" defence is always enjoyable too.....
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I have been absent from the site some time and haven`t been to a game for a while - due to ongoing health issues
My son (VCTM jnr) took me to our local in Formby yesterday as a treat and we met up with a fellow Brummie who lives close to us
I was totally blown away by the way we took the game to the Geordies from the off - it was a joy to watch.
After the game I said to my son that the performance was one of the best I had ever seen - it was a total team effort
In 60 + years of watching the Villa that was up there as one of the most enjoyable
It is indicative that so many of us elder fans have expressed similar opinions
The way we played the game reminded me of the Ron Saunders 110% effort era, where every player gave their all for the team
Exciting times ahead
UTV
Great to see you back mate!
Yes all the best VCTM.
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I knew The Mag had a reputation for delusion but this...
https://twitter.com/NUFCTheMag/status/1647253538026803203?t=62YWhj79nYcJ9U7lVZTMNQ&s=19
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
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I knew The Mag had a reputation for delusion but this...
https://twitter.com/NUFCTheMag/status/1647253538026803203?t=62YWhj79nYcJ9U7lVZTMNQ&s=19
They play the moral philosopher when their club is a shoeshine boy for Crown Prince Isis Hitler.
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
Which is fine & I accept that...
It was a poor attempt at humour & I live & learn...
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Who needs Andy Lochhead in the air, when Ollie can assist like that for our first? He was higher than the fucking sun!
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I knew The Mag had a reputation for delusion but this...
https://twitter.com/NUFCTheMag/status/1647253538026803203?t=62YWhj79nYcJ9U7lVZTMNQ&s=19
They play the moral philosopher when their club is a shoeshine boy for Crown Prince Isis Hitler.
What a ridiculous article. The team they put out yesterday cost in the region of €320m while ours cost around €160m… (from a quick google on transfrmrkt).
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I knew The Mag had a reputation for delusion but this...
https://twitter.com/NUFCTheMag/status/1647253538026803203?t=62YWhj79nYcJ9U7lVZTMNQ&s=19
They play the moral philosopher when their club is a shoeshine boy for Crown Prince Isis Hitler.
A lot of their fans have dismissed this for the bollocks it obviously is
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And to be fair the article does acknowledge that Howe is getting a lot from an average squad, which I thought but was too scared to say.
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"article"! LOL
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I never gave a shit about Newcastle before yesterday but if they want a rivalry I'm up for it.
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Has anyone got a link to the full match recording at all?
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
Which is fine & I accept that...
It was a poor attempt at humour & I live & learn...
With respect Pablo, there may be some on here that could be struggling with their sexuality and are afraid to come out. I accept that your banter with your brothers, well adjusted individuals no doubt, but, as said, it just may not sit well with people on a public forum.
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Welcome back Clive, may your recovery continue and yesterday must have been some of your best medicine.
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An exceptional and dominant display from the first to the last. It's hard to recall another game, this deep into a season, with a genuine top 6 battle, where we excelled so completely in every department.
I felt if anything, yesterday highlighted a serious deficiency in Howe's tactical thinking. He had no clue how we set up, he failed to react in a way that would have given them a foothold and they were just clueless. Their midfield 3 were consistently outnumbered by Ramsey and McGinn coming narrow to form a box 4. It gave us an extra man and with Buendia finding space between the lines, we caused havoc on turnovers.
The efforts was there too mind. Moreno was fantastic, but it helps that he has 3 lungs. He terrorised Newcastle and I felt we bullied them with the speed we hit them out of possession. When Howe went full Lambert second half, it did nothing to stop their midfield being overrun and in fact gave us more space.
It surprises me that their high line hasn't cost them more, as Watkins murdered them by splitting the centre halves, while Burn looked every inch the donkey he is.
Equally their high press was consistently played through. Mings is starting to find a more expansive range by hitting the 10 space in midfield. That sort of press proof player at centre half and in midfield is the profile I think we'll go for.
A £30m Champions League centre half who probably isn't ready in Carlos, Coutinho, Bailey, Cash and Kamara- all out. We'll need them for the run in, but its quite something how well we're doing with such a threadbare squad.
The ground was bouncing. A statement was made. Lucky? Stick your Xg up your arse.
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I reckon despite being on the bench for a while now, that Carlos must be miles off actually playing. If he’s not going to get a few minutes when we’re 3-0 up then it’s hard to see when he is.
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Stick your Xg up your arse.
(https://the-limpets.de/other_stuff/Ted_Protest.jpg)
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Who needs Andy Lochhead in the air, when Ollie can assist like that for our first? He was higher than the fucking sun!
Yes, a really great piece of athleticism, rounded off in style, and beautifully framed by a joyful Holte End.
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
Which is fine & I accept that...
It was a poor attempt at humour & I live & learn...
👍
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Has anyone got a link to the full match recording at all?
it's on BT tomorrow morning if it helps
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Who needs Andy Lochhead in the air, when Ollie can assist like that for our first? He was higher than the fucking sun!
I do wonder if we’d have been awarded a penalty had JJ not scored?
Clear push on Ollie
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I do think the type of goal JJ scored is my favourite in terms of spectacle, because you have that moment delay where it lands at the player’s feet where the crowd know he’s going to smash it in and it allows this unbelievable release of emotion collectively.
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
Which is fine & I accept that...
It was a poor attempt at humour & I live & learn...
Fair enough
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A word on Ollies headed assist, I was under the impression that he just stretched and headed it wherever he could and we were a bit fortunate it felt to JJ. Watching it back now he put it on a fucking plate for him to smash if in and it was 100% meant. Superb assist.
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Apologies for a bit of a change of tack, but given the timing I thought I may as well post here. Antiques Roadshow at 8pm this evening is from Aston Hall, and includes memorabilia from a former Villa player.
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If my evidently poor attempt at humour has upset anybody, then I apologise.
In my circle, we are not afraid of having a little fun at each others expense, including our own. We push the boundaries because we are all comfortable with who we are & we all welcome it as nothing more than playful banter.
But clearly, some people are a little more sensitive, so I will attempt to be more formal in the future.
But I will categorically state, my comment that has offended some, was NOT homophobic. Anybody who thinks the intention behind it was homophobic is 100% categorically wrong.
The point is, you and your brothers can have whatever bantz you want, but your not with your brothers on here, your on a social media forum and whether you like it or not, some people find what you said offensive or at best crass.
Which is fine & I accept that...
It was a poor attempt at humour & I live & learn...
With respect Pablo, there may be some on here that could be struggling with their sexuality and are afraid to come out. I accept that your banter with your brothers, well adjusted individuals no doubt, but, as said, it just may not sit well with people on a public forum.
And I understand that mate, as I watched it with both of my brothers, but there was genuinely NO intent or even thought regarding homosexuality, homophobia, transphobia, etc. It was just an admittedly, piss poor joke about the pain of anal sex & inflicting that on Newcastle. An act that all sexualities dabble in from time to time. I had no thought about homosexuality or anything else other than an obviously poor crass attempt at some lighthearted on the edge humour. Admittedly, I forgot where I was for a second & should have thought about it more before I posted it. This, I accept. And apologise wholeheartedly. But there was NO homophobic intent whatsoever. If anybody thinks that & feels bad about it, then please understand, it was not my intent & I do apologise profusely. Like I said, I live & learn...
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Fair enough mate, that looks like a heartfelt apology so best if everybody moves on.
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Who needs Andy Lochhead in the air, when Ollie can assist like that for our first? He was higher than the fucking sun!
I do wonder if we’d have been awarded a penalty had JJ not scored?
Clear push on Ollie
and a sending off, last man?
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The use of a pleonasm to describe anal intercourse was pretty poor though. ;-)
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Fair enough mate, that looks like a heartfelt apology so best if everybody moves on.
agreed
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My iptv has started showing full replays of games on loop, so I'm watching again.
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My iptv has started showing full replays of games on loop, so I'm watching again.
Where abouts mate ?
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My iptv has started showing full replays of games on loop, so I'm watching again.
Where abouts mate ?
A paid for iptv subscription. Not sure if this is allowed to be discussed?
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My iptv has started showing full replays of games on loop, so I'm watching again.
Where abouts mate ?
A paid for iptv subscription. Not sure if this is allowed to be discussed?
no worries 😉
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Are you on Telegram?
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Apologies for a bit of a change of tack, but given the timing I thought I may as well post here. Antiques Roadshow at 8pm this evening is from Aston Hall, and includes memorabilia from a former Villa player.
Thanks for the heads up.
Includes a few good shots of Villa Park.
I won't give the spoiler re the former player.
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A £30m Champions League centre half who probably isn't ready in Carlos, Coutinho, Bailey, Cash and Kamara- all out. We'll need them for the run in, but its quite something how well we're doing with such a threadbare squad.
Another 3 game week coming up, we could do with these guys being available.
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A £30m Champions League centre half who probably isn't ready in Carlos, Coutinho, Bailey, Cash and Kamara- all out. We'll need them for the run in, but its quite something how well we're doing with such a threadbare squad.
Another 3 game week coming up, we could do with these guys being available.
I'm a bit surprised that Carlos hasn't been given a ten minute run-around at the end of some of the more comfortable victories to help get back into things.
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Fair enough mate, that looks like a heartfelt apology so best if everybody moves on.
Accepted and agree.
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A £30m Champions League centre half who probably isn't ready in Carlos, Coutinho, Bailey, Cash and Kamara- all out. We'll need them for the run in, but its quite something how well we're doing with such a threadbare squad.
Another 3 game week coming up, we could do with these guys being available.
I'm a bit surprised that Carlos hasn't been given a ten minute run-around at the end of some of the more comfortable victories to help get back into things.
I don’t think that’s how Emery is wired. My guess is that he sees it very much a case that a game must to be managed from start to finish in the most complete fashion possible. I bet he was very pleased with yesterday because we did that. We didn’t let our focus drop. That may well be the reason he was unhappy about Martinez going up for the corner against Arsenal.
Bringing on a sub just for game time doesn’t necessarily serve that purpose.
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
That’s bollocks.
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A word on Ollies headed assist, I was under the impression that he just stretched and headed it wherever he could and we were a bit fortunate it felt to JJ. Watching it back now he put it on a fucking plate for him to smash if in and it was 100% meant. Superb assist.
Apologies for a bit of a change of tack, but given the timing I thought I may as well post here. Antiques Roadshow at 8pm this evening is from Aston Hall, and includes memorabilia from a former Villa player.
Thanks for the heads up.
Includes a few good shots of Villa Park.
I won't give the spoiler re the former player.
know who it is but I won't say either, nudge nudge wink wink
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
That’s bollocks.
Not quite...
LGA populations:
Newcastle 169k
Gateshead 200k
Total 369k
Stockport 295k
Trafford 235k
Total 530k
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
That’s bollocks.
Stockport is a conurbation within Greater Manchester.
So it’s population is irrelevant in this context.
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I have been absent from the site some time and haven`t been to a game for a while - due to ongoing health issues
My son (VCTM jnr) took me to our local in Formby yesterday as a treat and we met up with a fellow Brummie who lives close to us
I was totally blown away by the way we took the game to the Geordies from the off - it was a joy to watch.
After the game I said to my son that the performance was one of the best I had ever seen - it was a total team effort
In 60 + years of watching the Villa that was up there as one of the most enjoyable
It is indicative that so many of us elder fans have expressed similar opinions
The way we played the game reminded me of the Ron Saunders 110% effort era, where every player gave their all for the team
Exciting times ahead
UTV
Agree with the above,
Good to have you back as well 👍👍
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
That’s bollocks.
Actually you are right by about 10,000. It has changed in the last decade or so. I remember giving a talk in Newcastle about the smaller town of Stockport when the leader of Newcastle council came up to me a told me actually Stockport was larger. This was in the 90's. So, not quite bollocks but incorrect at the current date.
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Single club city so bound to have numbers.
Newcastle has lower population than Stockport.
That’s bollocks.
Stockport is a conurbation within Greater Manchester.
So it’s population is irrelevant in this context.
Don't tell that to Stopfordians...
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Newcastle's catchment area is geographically large, but very lowly populated. Their attendances have for years been excellent.
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Even the attitude of the disallowed goal from the players and fans, we all seemed to take it on the chin and scored again anyway in about 3 minutes. When we normally have a goal chalked off from VAR there's usually overbearing disappointment and anger but this time it was 'oh well, lets just score again'.
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Yeah their status as a big club is almost entirely based on way overperforming what their attendances should be. A quite staggering percentage of the area shows up - if we did the same we'd have something like 150k in the building!
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Even the attitude of the disallowed goal from the players and fans, we all seemed to take it on the chin and scored again anyway in about 3 minutes. When we normally have a goal chalked off from VAR there's usually overbearing disappointment and anger but this time it was 'oh well, lets just score again'.
Watching on MOTD, Ollie's face when the goal was chalked off didn't change, he shrugged it off and got back into position.
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Yeah their status as a big club is almost entirely based on way overperforming what their attendances should be. A quite staggering percentage of the area shows up - if we did the same we'd have something like 150k in the building!
Yeah but what else is there to do in Newcastle? ;D
Five attractions and one of them is St James park! Lol.
https://www.visitnortheastengland.com/places/newcastle/newcastle-landmarks-and-attractions/
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Newcastle's catchment area is geographically large, but very lowly populated. Their attendances have for years been excellent.
The one club thing and their location can't be underestimated. How many people in our area travel up to Newton Heath or Liverpool every week? I bet there are very few glory hunters from Newcastle heading to the NW on a regular basis. There are Cockney Reds, Brummie Reds, Bristol, Cardiff, you name it.
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Suppose they could go and watch Hibs?
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Even the attitude of the disallowed goal from the players and fans, we all seemed to take it on the chin and scored again anyway in about 3 minutes. When we normally have a goal chalked off from VAR there's usually overbearing disappointment and anger but this time it was 'oh well, lets just score again'.
Watching on MOTD, Ollie's face when the goal was chalked off didn't change, he shrugged it off and got back into position.
Yes i noticed that , real Focus
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Even the attitude of the disallowed goal from the players and fans, we all seemed to take it on the chin and scored again anyway in about 3 minutes. When we normally have a goal chalked off from VAR there's usually overbearing disappointment and anger but this time it was 'oh well, lets just score again'.
Watching on MOTD, Ollie's face when the goal was chalked off didn't change, he shrugged it off and got back into position.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. Proper elite mentality. There are times when having a moan at the ref might make a small difference (even if it's just having your opposition to a decision noted), but VAR overturning a goal isn't one of them. There is absolutely zero value in sulking about it.
Treating like a missed chance and moving on immediately like that was brilliant.
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Yeah their status as a big club is almost entirely based on way overperforming what their attendances should be. A quite staggering percentage of the area shows up - if we did the same we'd have something like 150k in the building!
I think we’ve got to take into account we are based centrally. Not only are there many clubs within the West Midlands but many people live here from other parts of the UK. We are within an hour or so from most of the major cities in England. Not that I’m disagreeing with your post but just putting something out there to think about.
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Until Emery, Watkins would gone into his shell totally after that goal was ruled out. Now he just shrugs, resets, and gets on with it as if it didn't happen.
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And I loved how we left 2 out when defending their first corner ... we should do that more.
On reflection, it was amusing to see MacPhee doing his nut to get Ramsey and Buendia out of our area and up the field before the corner!
I also noticed how MacPhee 'manmarked' the odious Tindall when the latter was trying to get into the 4th official's ear. It occurred to me that perhaps he has been designated as the on-the-bench shithouser on behalf of Villa's coaching team ...
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And I loved how we left 2 out when defending their first corner ... we should do that more.
On reflection, it was amusing to see MacPhee doing his nut to get Ramsey and Buendia out of our area and up the field before the corner!
I also noticed how MacPhee 'manmarked' the odious Tindall when the latter was trying to get into the 4th official's ear. It occurred to me that perhaps he has been designated as the on-the-bench shithouser on behalf of Villa's coaching team ...
Brilliant i didn’t notice this! The great survivor, you wouldn’t mess with him!
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And I loved how we left 2 out when defending their first corner ... we should do that more.
On reflection, it was amusing to see MacPhee doing his nut to get Ramsey and Buendia out of our area and up the field before the corner!
I also noticed how MacPhee 'manmarked' the odious Tindall when the latter was trying to get into the 4th official's ear. It occurred to me that perhaps he has been designated as the on-the-bench shithouser on behalf of Villa's coaching team ...
Brilliant i didn’t notice this! The great survivor, you wouldn’t mess with him!
The Keith Richards of backroom staff
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No one fucks with the top roadie. He'll gnarl your cables and spit in your rider.
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Newcastle's catchment area is geographically large, but very lowly populated. Their attendances have for years been excellent.
The one club thing and their location can't be underestimated. How many people in our area travel up to Newton Heath or Liverpool every week? I bet there are very few glory hunters from Newcastle heading to the NW on a regular basis. There are Cockney Reds, Brummie Reds, Bristol, Cardiff, you name it.
Newcastle is an outlier and a ball-ache to get to and from. The surrounding areas will go there because they can't get anywhere else that easily, other than Sunderland (obvious rivalry) and then Middlesbrough, Leeds is the next closest and that's a trek with a shit team, so there's no attraction.
If you live in or near most other big cities you can get to lots of others quite easily.
Demographia lists the UK’s most populous urban areas as:
London – 11,262,000
Manchester – 2,767,000
Birmingham – 2,643,000
Leeds-Bradford – 1,916,000
Glasgow – 1,270,000
Southampton-Portsmouth – 932,000
Liverpool – 940,000
Newcastle – 726,000
Nottingham – 694,000
Sheffield – 640,000
From that you can see that Leeds and Newcastle are by far the biggest with only one club. Leeds' argument would be the split with Bradford etc and Rugby League but they should be really well supported clubs.
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Just to quote a few more stats from here (https://citymonitor.ai/infrastructure/where-are-largest-cities-britain-1404)
Centre for Cities uses PUAs (Primary Urban Areas) in its research and lists the top ten areas – according to the latest statistics from 2021 – as:
London – 10,257,7000
Birmingham – 2,560,500
Manchester – 2,517,500
Glasgow – 1,019,900
Newcastle – 868,800
Sheffield – 854,200
Leeds – 798,800
Bristol – 753,700
Nottingham – 685,200
Liverpool – 653,000
Manchester is rather shrunken by this metric, while Birmingham is back in second place. Leeds, deprived of Bradford, has fallen a long way down the league tables. And Southampton and Portsmouth, two cities once again, are nowhere to be seen.
Let’s look at the populations of England’s largest metropolitan counties, per the Office of National Statistics:
Greater London – 9,078000
West Midlands (Birmingham) – 2,936,000
Greater Manchester – 2,819,000
West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford) – 2,314,000
Merseyside (Liverpool) – 1,412,000
South Yorkshire (Sheffield) – 1,396,000
Tyne & Wear (Newcastle) – 1,125,000
…and of some of the bigger official “cities” they contain (2021 figures):
Birmingham – 1,153,000
Leeds – 792,000
Sheffield – 582,000
Manchester– 558,000
Bradford– 532,000
Liverpool – 494,000
Bristol – 470,000
Newcastle – 296,000
Sunderland – 275,000
Wolverhampton – 261,000
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I've said it before but there can't be many urban areas (excluding old Soviet places I've never heard) in Europe that have never had a team in the Champions League.
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The other dynamic at play in a one club town is simply a mentality of not having a choice about who you support. Once you have a choice about who you support within your own city or town, the choice to support a team from somewhere else becomes more of a possibility. In a one club town, even people with no interest in football support that club.
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The other dynamic at play in a one club town is simply a mentality of not having a choice about who you support. Once you have a choice about who you support within your own city or town, the choice to support a team from somewhere else becomes more of a possibility. In a one club town, even people with no interest in football support that club.
A friend of mine told me recently that Catania and Palermo are around the top-ten for most supported clubs in Italy for similar reasons. Catania are in Serie *D* but they still show up.
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
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The other dynamic at play in a one club town is simply a mentality of not having a choice about who you support. Once you have a choice about who you support within your own city or town, the choice to support a team from somewhere else becomes more of a possibility. In a one club town, even people with no interest in football support that club.
A friend of mine told me recently that Catania and Palermo are around the top-ten for most supported clubs in Italy for similar reasons. Catania are in Serie *D* but they still show up.
Although worth noting that the south of Italy and even Sicily are absolutely awash with Juventus supporters.
Juventus, who rebuilt their own ground 25k seats smaller and don't always fill it, would attract much bigger crowds if they played half their matches somewhere like Bari.
I'd even suggest that, within Italy, Juventus have proportionally more plastic supporters than Man United do in this country.
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
Leeds is built on the siege mentality of Revie, they think everyone hates them and they're right.
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The mainland south much more than Sicily though. Back in the 50s supporting Juve (and to an extent Inter and Milan) showed that you weren't some hick provincial and were instead a real Italian (all connected with not speaking the dialects and so on). Kind of depressing really, but the young at least are less like this.
Sicily, yeah they're there, gloryhunting is endemic everywhere, but Sicilians have always been genuinely different. Their language is officially recognised and stuff - they've just never particularly *wanted* to be Italians (not in a separatist way, they just don't care).
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One of my favourite parts of the game on Saturday was McGinn ploughing through Burn on the touchline in front of the Trinity with a tackle that was so ferocious I thought he'd get booked.
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Just to quote a few more stats from here (https://citymonitor.ai/infrastructure/where-are-largest-cities-britain-1404)
Centre for Cities uses PUAs (Primary Urban Areas) in its research and lists the top ten areas – according to the latest statistics from 2021 – as:
London – 10,257,7000
Birmingham – 2,560,500
Manchester – 2,517,500
Glasgow – 1,019,900
Newcastle – 868,800
Sheffield – 854,200
Leeds – 798,800
Bristol – 753,700
Nottingham – 685,200
Liverpool – 653,000
Manchester is rather shrunken by this metric, while Birmingham is back in second place. Leeds, deprived of Bradford, has fallen a long way down the league tables. And Southampton and Portsmouth, two cities once again, are nowhere to be seen.
Let’s look at the populations of England’s largest metropolitan counties, per the Office of National Statistics:
Greater London – 9,078000
West Midlands (Birmingham) – 2,936,000
Greater Manchester – 2,819,000
West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford) – 2,314,000
Merseyside (Liverpool) – 1,412,000
South Yorkshire (Sheffield) – 1,396,000
Tyne & Wear (Newcastle) – 1,125,000
…and of some of the bigger official “cities” they contain (2021 figures):
Birmingham – 1,153,000
Leeds – 792,000
Sheffield – 582,000
Manchester– 558,000
Bradford– 532,000
Liverpool – 494,000
Bristol – 470,000
Newcastle – 296,000
Sunderland – 275,000
Wolverhampton – 261,000
That's weird, how come Primary Urban Area London has a bigger population than Greater London?
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Just to quote a few more stats from here (https://citymonitor.ai/infrastructure/where-are-largest-cities-britain-1404)
Centre for Cities uses PUAs (Primary Urban Areas) in its research and lists the top ten areas – according to the latest statistics from 2021 – as:
London – 10,257,7000
Birmingham – 2,560,500
Manchester – 2,517,500
Glasgow – 1,019,900
Newcastle – 868,800
Sheffield – 854,200
Leeds – 798,800
Bristol – 753,700
Nottingham – 685,200
Liverpool – 653,000
Manchester is rather shrunken by this metric, while Birmingham is back in second place. Leeds, deprived of Bradford, has fallen a long way down the league tables. And Southampton and Portsmouth, two cities once again, are nowhere to be seen.
Let’s look at the populations of England’s largest metropolitan counties, per the Office of National Statistics:
Greater London – 9,078000
West Midlands (Birmingham) – 2,936,000
Greater Manchester – 2,819,000
West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford) – 2,314,000
Merseyside (Liverpool) – 1,412,000
South Yorkshire (Sheffield) – 1,396,000
Tyne & Wear (Newcastle) – 1,125,000
…and of some of the bigger official “cities” they contain (2021 figures):
Birmingham – 1,153,000
Leeds – 792,000
Sheffield – 582,000
Manchester– 558,000
Bradford– 532,000
Liverpool – 494,000
Bristol – 470,000
Newcastle – 296,000
Sunderland – 275,000
Wolverhampton – 261,000
That's weird, how come Primary Urban Area London has a bigger population than Greater London?
because there are towns that are basically indistinguishable for the London sprawl that are outside Greater London.
Edit - think about places like Watford, Esher and Epsom.
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I'd rather not have to think about Watford in all honesty, I've been there
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The other dynamic at play in a one club town is simply a mentality of not having a choice about who you support. Once you have a choice about who you support within your own city or town, the choice to support a team from somewhere else becomes more of a possibility. In a one club town, even people with no interest in football support that club.
A friend of mine told me recently that Catania and Palermo are around the top-ten for most supported clubs in Italy for similar reasons. Catania are in Serie *D* but they still show up.
How are Cesc and Dennis Wise getting on at Como?
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
Absolutely right.
There's also the fact that Newcastle really is very remote. Other than Sunderland, there's no other big town anywhere near. There's nothing but villages west until you get to Carlisle, and nothing north until you get to Edinburgh. Even south you've only got Middlesbrough between Newcastle and the built up West Yorkshire conurbation. The fact that the ground is right in the city centre plays a big part as well as you say. It's probably my favourite away game, as it's a superb ground 5 minutes from the city centre and it's therefore a piece of piss to enjoy yourself there both before and after the game.
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What's the metro system like? I've never been there but apparently there's a stag do on the horizon, the groom's a tee-totaller so not sure what the planning committe was at.
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
Absolutely right.
There's also the fact that Newcastle really is very remote. Other than Sunderland, there's no other big town anywhere near. There's nothing but villages west until you get to Carlisle, and nothing north until you get to Edinburgh. Even south you've only got Middlesbrough between Newcastle and the built up West Yorkshire conurbation. The fact that the ground is right in the city centre plays a big part as well as you say. It's probably my favourite away game, as it's a superb ground 5 minutes from the city centre and it's therefore a piece of piss to enjoy yourself there both before and after the game.
Newcastle and Sunderland both benefit from having the ground right in the city, Sunderland is maybe slightly further being on the other side of the river but both are very accessible.
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Makems I’ve met remind me of Brummies. Generally smart modest down to earth people, weary with being overlooked and taken for granted. By comparison Geordies are like south Lancs types, good at blowing their own trumpet and making people think minor achievements are somehow significant.
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Newcastle and Sunderland both benefit from having the ground right in the city, Sunderland is maybe slightly further being on the other side of the river but both are very accessible.
Yes Sunderland's very near, but as you say you have to cross the bridge to get to it. With Newcastle, 100m down the hill and you're basically at the edge of the recognisable town centre. Sunderland's probably the same sort of distance into the town centre as the Dingles' ground is to theirs.
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
Only just had a nose at this on my lunch break, the bloke in the old photo above the banner that they're taking the piss out of is my neighbour, he's bloody sound as well. Arseholes!
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
Absolutely right.
There's also the fact that Newcastle really is very remote. Other than Sunderland, there's no other big town anywhere near. There's nothing but villages west until you get to Carlisle, and nothing north until you get to Edinburgh. Even south you've only got Middlesbrough between Newcastle and the built up West Yorkshire conurbation. The fact that the ground is right in the city centre plays a big part as well as you say. It's probably my favourite away game, as it's a superb ground 5 minutes from the city centre and it's therefore a piece of piss to enjoy yourself there both before and after the game.
That away end is fcuking shit though. Parking is a bit of a shitter as well if you drive. I parked in Eldon Square I think last time I was there.
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Longstaff was missing… Yeah that’s it lads.
Reminds of the time Xavi and Iniesta only bossed a champions league final, because Darren Fletcher was missing.
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Longstaff was missing… Yeah that’s it lads.
Reminds of the time Xavi and Iniesta only bossed a champions league final, because Darren Fletcher was missing.
There was a post on their forum before the game about how great is was that they'd got the three they had starting playing together at last, and how they were going to dominate us.
Lol.
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Longstaff was missing… Yeah that’s it lads.
Reminds of the time Xavi and Iniesta only bossed a champions league final, because Darren Fletcher was missing.
Kamara was missing for Villa, but we had to play Dendonker and he had no problems coping, even with a blindfold on
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
Only just had a nose at this on my lunch break, the bloke in the old photo above the banner that they're taking the piss out of is my neighbour, he's bloody sound as well. Arseholes!
Just had a quick read, most of them seem ok tbf. Similar banter re match thread starters as we have on here, quite a lot of acknowledgement that we were the better team, the odd bombast shouting about us being shit. All looks very familiar.
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Makems I’ve met remind me of Brummies. Generally smart modest down to earth people, weary with being overlooked and taken for granted. By comparison Geordies are like south Lancs types, good at blowing their own trumpet and making people think minor achievements are somehow significant.
I spent four years there and tbh found them absolutely sound (although my best mate was a mackem, and they were all sound too).
This was as a student so going out on the town most nights, didn't see a hint of trouble ever, not like when I'd come home and go out in Brum.
We take the piss out of them but the vast majority of their fans are sound, but like us, they have a knobbish element - I see this fake rivalry on social media and the people winding each other up from both sides seem like absolute twats to me.
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https://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/43636-unai-nee-baals-emerys-beige-renaissance-vs-eddie-baals-in-a-wheelbarrow-howes-unstoppable-lunchtime-mags/page/14/
Some utterly bizarre views of the game here. A lot of the posts are just gibberish. Why do they hate us so much, all because of us giggling along with the rest of the country when they went down?
They're a nothing team to me.
Only just had a nose at this on my lunch break, the bloke in the old photo above the banner that they're taking the piss out of is my neighbour, he's bloody sound as well. Arseholes!
Just had a quick read, most of them seem ok tbf. Similar banter re match thread starters as we have on here, quite a lot of acknowledgement that we were the better team, the odd bombast shouting about us being shit. All looks very familiar.
Lots of references to Brum and brummies being boring or beige, because yeah, the carnival spirit evoked by the likes of Chris Rea and Dire Straits is celebrated the world over.
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You really need to go to Newcastle to understand how the club is the club 'of the city'.
The ground is right in the centre of town, high up, and unavoidable. It 'imposes' itself on the city in a way that I think far exceeds, say, Leeds United, which is another club in a one club city.
Absolutely right.
There's also the fact that Newcastle really is very remote. Other than Sunderland, there's no other big town anywhere near. There's nothing but villages west until you get to Carlisle, and nothing north until you get to Edinburgh. Even south you've only got Middlesbrough between Newcastle and the built up West Yorkshire conurbation. The fact that the ground is right in the city centre plays a big part as well as you say. It's probably my favourite away game, as it's a superb ground 5 minutes from the city centre and it's therefore a piece of piss to enjoy yourself there both before and after the game.
Newcastle and Sunderland both benefit from having the ground right in the city, Sunderland is maybe slightly further being on the other side of the river but both are very accessible.
TBH I don't think it's comparable, Newcastle is way more central and imposing.
When they score, you hear the noise all over the city centre.
Sunderland is accessible from the city centre. Newcastle is right in the city centre.
Also - Sunderland city centre is a desolate waste land, Newcastle is a great city with plenty of great places to eat and drink.
I don't know if they do this any more but Newcastle used to have a deal with the local transport authority that match ticket holders got free transport to and from the game on the local network, metro and bus
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Was there some trouble after the game? I saw some idiot on Twitter boasting about how some toon fans at the train station would have to wash blood out of their shirts.
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
I mean the fucking irony in that, a team that hasn't won one in an entire lifetime.
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
Brought to you by fans of a club that last won a domestic trophy in 1955.
I find asking them if they are called the black and white army because any footage of them winning anything is in black and white often shuts them up.
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I thought our reaction at the end of the game was as far from celebratory as you can get for beating one of the competitors for European spots. No team photo, no mass outpouring of joy in the stands, no over-the-top fist pumping. Just restrained congratulations around another step taken along the road to being competitive again.
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(https://i.ibb.co/LYzJG05/Screenshot-20230416-102711-Google.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LYzJG05)
I enjoyed asking my mates (including some Geordies) if they'd enjoyed the new MOTD on Saturday.
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
Brought to you by fans of a club that last won a domestic trophy in 1955.
I find asking them if they are called the black and white army because any footage of them winning anything is in black and white often shuts them up.
There's an earlier post on there about us being deluded because we've been mid-table plodders in the premier league era, whilst they've been in the 'champions league and challenged for titles' (not sure about the plural there).
They've been in as many title challenges as we have and have two less trophies to show for it.
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
Brought to you by fans of a club that last won a domestic trophy in 1955.
I find asking them if they are called the black and white army because any footage of them winning anything is in black and white often shuts them up.
There's an earlier post on there about us being deluded because we've been mid-table plodders in the premier league era, whilst they've been in the 'champions league and challenged for titles' (not sure about the plural there).
They've been in as many title challenges as we have and have two less trophies to show for it.
1995/96. 1996/97 and maybe one under Bobby Robson?
2002/03. In the hunt, but ended emphatically with a 6-2 drubbing by Man Utd.
But if that last one counts then so does our 98/99 start under John Gregory.
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In recent history we've both had the misfortune of Bruce in charge, but they've also had Benitez, Keegan, Robson, Allardyce, Souness, Dalglish, Gullit etc. Much higher profile than what we've had, and some with considerable more success elsewhere too. They've been media darlings for a lot of that time, and had some pretty big player personalities too. We've not so much. Yest we've at least won something.
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We've probably lost more finals than they've ever been to.
Edit, I was curious so checked and not quite - we have lost about half as many finals as they have ever been to:
Newcastle total finals 15
Villa finals lost: 8
Since they last won something, we've won an FA Cup, 5 league cups, the League and the European Cup. I guess Villa always suffer from underrepresentation in the media considering what the club has done in the game. Add to that a rotten last thirty-odd (possibly longer) years and I suppose it's fair enough that we just don't exist in the minds of a lot of fans.
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Mings and Watkins in Garth Crooks' team of the week. Which is a concern because 'dependable' De Gea was also, despite having precisely ZERO shots to save.
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We've been in a total of 21 finals, winning 13. They've been in 15 winning 7. Not including the Inter-Toto for either side as for me that doesn't count as a proper cup competition, but including their Fairs cup.
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Mings and Watkins in Garth Crooks' team of the week. Which is a concern because 'dependable' De Gea was also, despite having precisely ZERO shots to save.
Honestly Crooks is a relic and needs to be binned off to join Lawrenson and comfort him.
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Was there some trouble after the game? I saw some idiot on Twitter boasting about how some toon fans at the train station would have to wash blood out of their shirts.
What shirts? The buggers don’t wear any.
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Longstaff was missing… Yeah that’s it lads.
Reminds of the time Xavi and Iniesta only bossed a champions league final, because Darren Fletcher was missing.
Kamara was missing for Villa, but we had to play Dendonker and he had no problems coping, even with a blindfold on
Please someone sign-up to their toxic forum and post all this ;D
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What is this shit?: 'We’ll have to get used to lesser teams treating us like their cup final.'
Brought to you by fans of a club that last won a domestic trophy in 1955.
I find asking them if they are called the black and white army because any footage of them winning anything is in black and white often shuts them up.
There's an earlier post on there about us being deluded because we've been mid-table plodders in the premier league era, whilst they've been in the 'champions league and challenged for titles' (not sure about the plural there).
They've been in as many title challenges as we have and have two less trophies to show for it.
1995/96. 1996/97 and maybe one under Bobby Robson?
2002/03. In the hunt, but ended emphatically with a 6-2 drubbing by Man Utd.
But if that last one counts then so does our 98/99 start under John Gregory.
They’ve finished in the top four 5 times since the EPL started, qualified for the CL twice, and gone out in the qualifiers once. The other two times there were fewer CL entrants from England. We’ve only finished in the top four twice, and both times there were fewer entrants.
They’ve also been out of the EPL for three seasons like us, having not been in the top flight for the first season, and then relegated twice.
We’ve won two LCs, been to another two finals, and been to two FAC finals. They’ve been to a couple of FAC finals, but nothing else.
Basically there isn’t a lot to divide us over that period, so it’s strange that they would have any kind of superiority complex.
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We're jealous of their wealth, obviously.
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The only thing they've got over us is crowds and a slavish media.
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Was there some trouble after the game? I saw some idiot on Twitter boasting about how some toon fans at the train station would have to wash blood out of their shirts.
There were a bunch of them in The Diggers after the match. They were decent to be fair. Shirts off of course.
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We're jealous of their wealth, obviously.
We're not exactly paupers though.
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I'd rather have our owners than theirs. Doesn't matter how much success they have, it will always be tainted and i'd hate having them as owners.
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The only thing they've got over us is crowds and a slavish media.
And it's that second bit that made me so happy on Saturday, I never thought I'd be singing "That's Living Alright" walking into the Holte Suite.
When did you last hear some bozo say that our fans deserve success?
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Why do they take their shirts off so much? It's well weird!
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Does that heavy, sweary Geordie fella still have his youtube channel?
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Does that heavy, sweary Geordie fella still have his youtube channel?
You'll have to narrow it down a bit, eamonn.
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Enjoyed 5-a-side tonight, though one of the Geordies cried off. The other one said 'we were due a bad day, and just didn't perform' my response was quite simple 'we didn't let you, we were better all over the pitch, and in the dugout'.
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Does that heavy, sweary Geordie fella still have his youtube channel?
You'll have to narrow it down a bit, eamonn.
;D
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The true Geordie. He used to be funny but then he went all corporate and became shite.
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https://youtu.be/NjcDoRZH8A0
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The true Geordie. He used to be funny but then he went all corporate and became shite.
Isn't that what happened to African Car Reverser as well?
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The true Geordie. He used to be funny but then he went all corporate and became shite.
Isn't that what happened to African Car Reverser as well?
Yep, went from ACR to RCA.
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We get into the weekly Squires cartoon:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2023/apr/18/david-squires-on-arsenal-title-trip-and-tottenham-travails#comments (https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2023/apr/18/david-squires-on-arsenal-title-trip-and-tottenham-travails#comments)
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Squires has been fantastic recently. The one after Dyche was appointed everton manager, using a pint glass to shape his goatee, simple but fucking hilarious.
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Squires has been fantastic recently. The one after Dyche was appointed everton manager, using a pint glass to shape his goatee, simple but fucking hilarious.
I love his stuff, I've got a couple of his books too, he's an absolute genius. My boy is not bothered with football but loves his stuff too, although I have to explain the context for him a bit.
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If it is of any help BT are re running the entire game today at 16.30 - well i think they are as i have set to record.
Will sit back with a nice malt and watch it in peace
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There was a sequence of some seconds during the game when the camera was on their manager (think it was a short break in play) and he was constantly shouting about "formation ..." and "..formation" to their defending line and did look a bit stressed , very satisfying to watch from a Villa perspective I thought
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You can watch it all here:
https://footyfull.com/premier-league/aston-villa-vs-newcastle-united-15-04-2023/
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Tremendous performance, as many on here have already typed, the best for decades.
Can anyone explain the mild and intermittent booing of Matt Targett when he came on in the second half? He never wanted to leave as far as I know, his going being Gerrard's idea.
Things like this annoy me. Dazzler got the same treatment from some fans despite being sold against his will by Blarney O'Bollocks.