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Title: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 22, 2023, 06:42:58 PM
Anyone heard rumours that this year our summer training camp will be in the US? Supposedly we'll also play three games including one in Orlando (presumably to cater for the large no. of Villa fans who enjoy visiting Florida).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 22, 2023, 07:11:42 PM
Not heard anything this side of the water but it wouldn’t surprise me with a US based owner. And if any the rumours are true surrounding Vegas then getting extra exposure for the club and affiliates wouldn’t be the worst idea. Throw in a mainly US World Cup in 2 and bit years spending some time in a massive market with many PL fans is always good for the pocket. Plus it allows folks like me to get out and see them. So I hope it’s true.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on March 22, 2023, 07:18:54 PM
Has to be true. There are more Spanish speakers in the USA than in Spain.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 22, 2023, 07:42:21 PM
Has to be true. There are more Spanish speakers in the USA than in Spain.

Yep great point. Expect us to have games in Florida, Texas and California only. We will be a fully Spanish language side by then also. Solid for growth in the Mexican and much of the South American market. A cunning plan.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on March 22, 2023, 08:32:47 PM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on March 22, 2023, 08:42:32 PM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.

Crazy talk!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on March 23, 2023, 07:43:17 AM
My guess is, this will be another year when they won't be visiting the Emerald Isle.  It was a staple under BFR and we had visits from MON and even one from TS2.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PGW on March 23, 2023, 11:28:44 AM
Anyone heard rumours that this year our summer training camp will be in the US? Supposedly we'll also play three games including one in Orlando (presumably to cater for the large no. of Villa fans who enjoy visiting Florida).
I'd better get saving!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 23, 2023, 11:38:04 AM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.

About time we changed our pre season lower league opposition in the schedule. How about Stevenage ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: placeforparks on March 24, 2023, 01:08:05 PM
i know man united, chelsea, arsenal and wrexham (!) are all playing US friendlies in the summer.

i wouldn't be surprised if we were as well, given the owners are trying for that las vegas mls franchise.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on March 24, 2023, 01:57:38 PM
Burton Albion too.

Plus a home fixture against a team with no Spanish speakers in it, so they don't get a whiff of our tactics.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 24, 2023, 03:18:10 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on March 24, 2023, 03:23:10 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.

I've never been to Florida. I've no interest in Miami or Orlando or anywhere like that but the Everglades look amazing. I couldn't help but like how mental Las Vegas was, despite not being into gambling.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 24, 2023, 03:23:22 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.

The politics of Florida is shit. There are many parts of Florida that are just superb. Vegas is a destination for specific pursuits but Nevada can be wonderful if you like the outdoors.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 24, 2023, 03:25:08 PM
No. They're shit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on March 24, 2023, 04:32:40 PM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.

About time we changed our pre season lower league opposition in the schedule. How about Stevenage ?

Or Bristol Rovers going by today's result.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on March 24, 2023, 04:43:17 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.
I haven’t been to either place and have never been bothered about it so now I feel smug after your description😀
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 24, 2023, 04:44:23 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.
I haven’t been to either place and have never been bothered about it so now I feel smug after your description😀

Nor have I! That's how shit they are.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 26, 2023, 09:08:10 PM
Have always wanted a Hibs/hearts weekend - better city than Glasgow.  Miss Ireland trips but please no Rennes just too much on the coach.  Would take another Dutch tour or Duisburg. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on March 26, 2023, 10:00:14 PM
Trips to see Miss Ireland? Would you not prefer to meet the Rose Of Tralee?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 26, 2023, 11:53:38 PM
Trips to see Miss Ireland? Would you not prefer to meet the Rose Of Tralee?

At his age the Calor Housewife of the Year might be a safer bet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hillbilly on March 27, 2023, 02:48:59 AM
Have always wanted a Hibs/hearts weekend - better city than Glasgow.

Better city than Glasgow?! We all have opinions, it's just that yours is wrong.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ROBBO on March 27, 2023, 06:23:51 AM
I'm off to the Sunshine coast on Wednesday, now if you want to watch football in paradise that would be the ideal destination.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: algy on March 27, 2023, 07:56:02 AM
Have always wanted a Hibs/hearts weekend - better city than Glasgow.

Better city than Glasgow?! We all have opinions, it's just that yours is wrong.
Edinburgh > Glasgow. By a lot. That's just a fact.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: placeforparks on April 10, 2023, 03:45:36 PM
Villa are lined up for a pre-season Premier League tournament in the US with Brighton, Brentford, Chelsea and Newcastle according to The Athletic
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 03:47:39 PM
Great. As if we don't play the pricks often enough.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 10, 2023, 06:53:09 PM
Will be challenging.  If we get to Europe we could be ready for the knackers yard by Christmas
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 11, 2023, 02:03:27 PM
If there’s a Vegas game I’d be there in a heartbeat, mad town but on the doorstep of so many great things to see and do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 11, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Confirmed as 3 East coast games. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/11/aston-villa-set-for-premier-league-summer-series-in-usa/

Vegas will probably be on the cards when the new franchise is up and running.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on April 11, 2023, 03:40:36 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.
I haven’t been to either place and have never been bothered about it so now I feel smug after your description😀

Nor have I! That's how shit they are.

Well I like Florida (not the politics though)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: DeKuip on April 11, 2023, 03:52:48 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

Sunday, July 23 at Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia
Newcastle United v Aston Villa

Wednesday, July 26 at Exploria Stadium, Orlando
Fulham v Aston Villa (7pm)

Sunday, July 30 at FedEx Field, Landover, Maryland
Aston Villa v Brentford (12pm)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 11, 2023, 04:05:38 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 11, 2023, 04:16:43 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SamTheMouse on April 11, 2023, 04:34:05 PM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.

In Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 11, 2023, 04:46:36 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on April 11, 2023, 05:48:58 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)


Gotta say, I've been in Philly for years now and I've come to love it. I will certainly be at the Newcastle game and might drive down for the Brentford match.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on April 11, 2023, 05:52:44 PM
I’m calling it now. I reckon we’ll play Walsall.
Hang on ! https://maps.app.goo.gl/otk2GLk2RPacBgaH9
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on April 11, 2023, 06:16:15 PM
Yep I'll be in florida then. I can't not go can I.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 11, 2023, 07:13:36 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)


Gotta say, I've been in Philly for years now and I've come to love it. I will certainly be at the Newcastle game and might drive down for the Brentford match.

I worked downtown a fair bit and enjoyed the city, wouldn’t cross the road to visit the Liberty Bell mind.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on April 11, 2023, 07:49:37 PM
PL opposition sucks. It'll be soundtracked by Key Markets - Sleaford Mods. Maybe they'll send the U23s to Tolka Park or Dayler...we can but hope.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 11, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 11, 2023, 08:43:30 PM
PL opposition sucks. It'll be soundtracked by Key Markets - Sleaford Mods. Maybe they'll send the U23s to Tolka Park or Dayler...we can but hope.

It's part of this: https://www.premierleague.com/SummerSeries

Us, Fulham, Brentford, Chelsea, Newcastle, Brighton.

Clever marketing, I guess.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clark W Griswold on April 11, 2023, 09:30:19 PM
Florida is shit. Las Vegas is shit.

I've never been to Florida. I've no interest in Miami or Orlando or anywhere like that but the Everglades look amazing. I couldn't help but like how mental Las Vegas was, despite not being into gambling.

Miami is not really worth it for most tourists and Orlando only if you have pre teen and early teen kids but otherwise it’s great, the Everglades as you say, the Keyes and further up the east and west coasts. Las Vegas on the whole, once you’ve seen the lights at night once is not my bag at all, the weakest of all the spots on the tour of the west. I did like the Mirage though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on April 11, 2023, 09:37:22 PM
I'm not sure how much it matters that it's PL opposition. Each side will be a mixed side of first team players, support players, new signings and young players coming through. It won't have the full competitiveness of a Premier League game, just sides looking to get their fitness ready for the new season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 11, 2023, 09:56:17 PM
PL opposition sucks. It'll be soundtracked by Key Markets - Sleaford Mods. Maybe they'll send the U23s to Tolka Park or Dayler...we can but hope.

It's part of this: https://www.premierleague.com/SummerSeries

Us, Fulham, Brentford, Chelsea, Newcastle, Brighton.

Clever marketing, I guess.

Game 39 dress rehearsals
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 11, 2023, 11:30:33 PM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)


Gotta say, I've been in Philly for years now and I've come to love it. I will certainly be at the Newcastle game and might drive down for the Brentford match.

Skinny Joey Merlino is a bit of a hero of mine.

Apologies in advance if you’ve had a bad Joey-related experience.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 12, 2023, 02:33:20 AM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)


Gotta say, I've been in Philly for years now and I've come to love it. I will certainly be at the Newcastle game and might drive down for the Brentford match.

Skinny Joey Merlino is a bit of a hero of mine.

Apologies in advance if you’ve had a bad Joey-related experience.

Percy, say it ain't so!


Quote
In January 2023, Merlino reappeared in the news when he posed for a photograph with former U.S. president Donald Trump at a Trump-owned golf club, with both men making a "thumbs up" gesture.[70]
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 12, 2023, 03:51:21 AM
Have we ever had a less appetising pre season tour than this?

The cities are fine but would much prefer to have non-PL opposition. I guess it's all about 'growing the brand' stateside.
I can think of a lot of better destinations in the USA.
Washington has some obvious Iconic sights, Philadelphia is a dump and Orlando great if you like Tourists and Theme Parks.

I guess it could be fun if combining a bit of a road trip.



Philly's alright, huge parts have been gentrified in the past few years plus NY is an hour on the train and DC and hour the other direction, mind you last time I took the AMTRAK from Philly to NY it was cheaper to fly. I'm tempted by this one, take in the game and a few days in NYC either side.
Plus Philly has the best taxis by far, I give you Freedom Taxis.


(https://i.ibb.co/J5tsBF9/Freedom-taxi-hybrid.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J5tsBF9)


Gotta say, I've been in Philly for years now and I've come to love it. I will certainly be at the Newcastle game and might drive down for the Brentford match.

Skinny Joey Merlino is a bit of a hero of mine.

Apologies in advance if you’ve had a bad Joey-related experience.

Percy, say it ain't so!


Quote
In January 2023, Merlino reappeared in the news when he posed for a photograph with former U.S. president Donald Trump at a Trump-owned golf club, with both men making a "thumbs up" gesture.[70]

Oh I know. I think most of them are Trumpers unfortunately. Whaddayougonnado? I can’t have the feds as my heroes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Simon Page on April 12, 2023, 09:06:51 AM
Is he still playing at 1930s-style celebrity and not paying his gambling debts? Genuinely appears to be an absolute bellend even by US gangster standards. And a shit shot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 12, 2023, 09:47:23 AM
Is he still playing at 1930s-style celebrity and not paying his gambling debts? Genuinely appears to be an absolute bellend even by US gangster standards. And a shit shot.

30 years at the top in this day and age, with all the surveillance and rats, is no mean feat. Credible mobologists put him in the all-time top ten.  He is a bit of a shit shot though, yes. Joey Chang was only crippled, but there were mitigating circumstances for the failed Stanfer hit - shooting somebody in a moving vehicle from another moving vehicle on the freeway in rush hour strikes me as quite difficult,
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Simon Page on April 12, 2023, 09:54:35 AM
I'm sure he's a very competent mobolist, just wondering if he has anything to commend him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 12, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
I'm sure he's a very competent mobolist, just wondering if he has anything to commend him.

I just think he’s cool, and good at what he does.

In that world, these days, not flipping when he got 14 years is commendable.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gerrin on April 12, 2023, 07:00:43 PM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.

I'm quite interested in travelling over for the Brentford game and having a few days in Washington. The FedExField, Landover, Maryland has a capacity of 67,000, surely no requirement to purchase tickets up front from the Premier League tour outlets? Which will more than likely be at inflated prices.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 12, 2023, 07:06:17 PM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.

I'm quite interested in travelling over for the Brentford game and having a few days in Washington. The FedExField, Landover, Maryland has a capacity of 67,000, surely no requirement to purchase tickets up front from the Premier League tour outlets? Which will more than likely be at inflated prices.

yeh I wanted to go to that one alos but my schedule doesn't work for that weekend. Not sure how they will market it. On a global scale Villa vs Brentford in DC won't sell out 67k seats. I'm a little surprised at the competition to be honest as I thought PL vs other non PL sides might have been more appealing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on April 12, 2023, 08:23:32 PM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.

I'm quite interested in travelling over for the Brentford game and having a few days in Washington. The FedExField, Landover, Maryland has a capacity of 67,000, surely no requirement to purchase tickets up front from the Premier League tour outlets? Which will more than likely be at inflated prices.

FedEx Field is an absolute dump. A concrete, lifeless mega-bowl that is falling apart in a swampy marshland. You'll have much more fun in Philadelphia at a much nicer venue.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 12, 2023, 09:11:04 PM
I’ve registered on the Premier League site, I do wonder how they’ll price this, I’ll wait and see what they come up with and no doubt just turn up and pay on the day as there’s zero chance any of the games will sell out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gerrin on April 13, 2023, 11:53:15 AM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.


I'm quite interested in travelling over for the Brentford game and having a few days in Washington. The FedExField, Landover, Maryland has a capacity of 67,000, surely no requirement to purchase tickets up front from the Premier League tour outlets? Which will more than likely be at inflated prices.

FedEx Field is an absolute dump. A concrete, lifeless mega-bowl that is falling apart in a swampy marshland. You'll have much more fun in Philadelphia at a much nicer venue.

It's more the appeal of getting to spend time in Washington, and the early kick off, than the stadium for me. Is Philadelphia any good?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 13, 2023, 12:17:36 PM
I’m going to try for the Fulham game for sure and possibly the Newcastle if I can swing it the weekend before.


I'm quite interested in travelling over for the Brentford game and having a few days in Washington. The FedExField, Landover, Maryland has a capacity of 67,000, surely no requirement to purchase tickets up front from the Premier League tour outlets? Which will more than likely be at inflated prices.

FedEx Field is an absolute dump. A concrete, lifeless mega-bowl that is falling apart in a swampy marshland. You'll have much more fun in Philadelphia at a much nicer venue.

It's more the appeal of getting to spend time in Washington, and the early kick off, than the stadium for me. Is Philadelphia any good?

Philadelphia is a lovely city, lots of history and tradition. We played there in a pre season game a number of years ago. The Fonz got the winner in a 1-0 win. They have a nice stadium too. So it’s a good place to visit and should be a decent game. Their team is decent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on April 24, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Rumours of an away friendly in Europe on the weekend of 5/6 august - supposedly "big" opposition.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on April 25, 2023, 10:42:47 PM
Just bought tickets for the family to watch the Brentford v Fulham and Newcastle v Villa games on July 23rd (two games for the price of one !).

The tickets are on pre-sale right now...go to ticketmaster.com and when prompted enter the code "PLUSA" to unlock. We are high up in section 225 ($40+fees), but it will be the first time my daughter will see the Villa live and she's already beyond excited.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on April 26, 2023, 01:46:55 AM
Got tickets for the Fulham game. It’s not the Holte (yet) but it will be my son’s first game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on April 26, 2023, 05:58:56 AM
Hope for you and your son that the Fulham pre season game is better than the drab game last night
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on April 30, 2023, 06:20:26 PM
Just booked my ticket for the fulham game in Orlando. Safe standing area known as 'the wall'.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on April 30, 2023, 07:32:56 PM
Is Gilmour a Cottager?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 02, 2023, 12:06:29 PM
Walsall A on July 15
Lazio also at Bescott on August 3rd
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on June 02, 2023, 12:15:11 PM
Why not play Lazio at Villa Park?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Witton Warrior on June 02, 2023, 01:42:27 PM
Why not play Lazio at Villa Park?

The building work for the "Terrace" on the Holte?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 02, 2023, 01:44:16 PM
Is the superbike thing on the 1st? Guess it depends how long it's going to take to get everything back in pristine condition.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: usav on June 02, 2023, 02:05:41 PM
Is the superbike thing on the 1st? Guess it depends how long it's going to take to get everything back in pristine condition.

I was thinking that as well as hosting a couple of concerts this summer maybe they are giving the pitch as much time to recover as possible - or even blocking time in case they need to re-lay it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scratchins on June 02, 2023, 02:35:26 PM
On Monday they had started to take the seats out of the North Stand Lower for the concerts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 02, 2023, 02:37:42 PM
I wonder also if they are trying to keep the pitch pristine for any possible Conference game we might have once the draw is made.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on June 02, 2023, 03:03:16 PM
I wonder also if they are trying to keep the pitch pristine for any possible Conference game we might have once the draw is made.

We could always play for about 85 minutes at the Hawthorns if we're stuck.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: London Villan on June 02, 2023, 03:28:23 PM
I wonder also if they are trying to keep the pitch pristine for any possible Conference game we might have once the draw is made.

More like giving the pitch time to recover from Pink/Springsteen/KickStart. It will be just 6 week from the motorbikes until the first game of the season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on June 02, 2023, 03:35:40 PM
Got tickets for the Fulham game. It’s not the Holte (yet) but it will be my son’s first game.

Excellent
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 19, 2023, 12:04:23 PM
An away game at the impressive Mestalla vs Valencia has been added to pre season on August 5th.

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1670748407168749570?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nunkin1965 on June 19, 2023, 12:12:30 PM
An away game at the impressive Mestalla vs Valencia has been added to pre season on August 5th.

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1670748407168749570?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Oooooh nice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on June 19, 2023, 12:19:47 PM
Oh get in! I shall endeavour to nip down for the weekend. On it now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on June 19, 2023, 12:37:00 PM
i will try to get to that game
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 19, 2023, 12:56:45 PM
I just happen to be in Alicante that weekend - sweet
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 19, 2023, 01:05:11 PM
Aren't Valencia the ones that had all the racist fans?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on June 19, 2023, 01:09:29 PM
Aren't Valencia the ones that had all the racist fans?

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be the preserve of only one Spanish club, a lot of teams have issues with some of their fans being of this ilk.

But yeah, it was Valencia who Real Madrid played and Vinicius Jr decided that enough was enough.

Seems like we also share(d) sponsors with Valencia:

Quote
This has now cost Valencia, according to Relevo. Shirt sponsor Cazoo were keen to leave their two-year deal with Los Che as it was, where they provided €4m per season to show their name on the front of their kit. However Valencia had rejected their attempts to leave the deal, and won a court battle preventing Cazoo from terminating it. They demanded the full amount to be able to leave the deal.

That was before the racial abuse towards Vinicius, but somewhere within the contract, likely due to poor public relations or bad image, it gave Cazoo legal grounds to terminate the deal. The pair have ended up settling the exit at €1m, costing Valencia 75% of what they were due for the second season.

Valencia will feel harshly treated, given there were at least nine other racial incidents occurring in La Liga against Vinicius during the season. Indeed, Atletico Madrid fans have been involved in similar or worse on multiple occasions, but their sponsor seemingly has not looked to leave their deal early via that legal route. However few will feel sympathy for them in this case, given the general permissiveness of racial abuse in La Liga as a whole this season
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on June 19, 2023, 01:54:31 PM
I wouldn't be throwing stones when you have the UK government forcing migrants to drown in the channel and stuff. Racism is everywhere and needs to be fought everywhere. I firmly believe I am preaching to the converted though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 19, 2023, 04:41:42 PM
I wouldn't be throwing stones when you have the UK government forcing migrants to drown in the channel and stuff. Racism is everywhere and needs to be fought everywhere. I firmly believe I am preaching to the converted though.

Quite BE. This the same UK that exited the European Union to proclaim British sovereignty from those others on the mainland like it was still the 16th century. Britain has plenty of skeletons in the closet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 19, 2023, 07:21:23 PM
I wouldn't be throwing stones when you have the UK government forcing migrants to drown in the channel and stuff. Racism is everywhere and needs to be fought everywhere. I firmly believe I am preaching to the converted though.

So… on the one hand it has to be fought everywhere, but on the other hand only people whose history is absolutely perfect can denounce it?

Sounds like a very well thought out position that’s going to get things sorted.  ::)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: exigo on June 19, 2023, 07:31:35 PM
Got back from Valencia two days ago. The Mestalla is a brilliantly bonkers ground. Well worth booking the tour if you're going.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on June 19, 2023, 07:47:02 PM
I wouldn't be throwing stones when you have the UK government forcing migrants to drown in the channel and stuff. Racism is everywhere and needs to be fought everywhere. I firmly believe I am preaching to the converted though.

So… on the one hand it has to be fought everywhere, but on the other hand only people whose history is absolutely perfect can denounce it?

Sounds like a very well thought out position that’s going to get things sorted.  ::)
Disingenuous. Not what I said. Rollyeyes
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: j66acd on June 19, 2023, 07:47:40 PM
Any news on Walsall tickets? Can’t remember when they went on sale last year.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 19, 2023, 08:26:49 PM
I wouldn't be throwing stones when you have the UK government forcing migrants to drown in the channel and stuff. Racism is everywhere and needs to be fought everywhere. I firmly believe I am preaching to the converted though.

So… on the one hand it has to be fought everywhere, but on the other hand only people whose history is absolutely perfect can denounce it?

Sounds like a very well thought out position that’s going to get things sorted.  ::)
Disingenuous. Not what I said. Rollyeyes

Nicely backtracked!  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on June 19, 2023, 09:00:02 PM
I'm not backtracking; I'm saying your previous post was pointless. As is our exchange. I wish I had the time to philosophise further but no. :-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 19, 2023, 09:04:54 PM
I'm not backtracking; I'm saying your previous post was pointless. As is our exchange. I wish I had the time to philosophise further but no. :-)

Okay, so we agree that individual British people have the right to call out prejudice, regardless if what other British people do.

Thankyou!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on June 19, 2023, 09:08:12 PM
No, I don't agree to anything you say. You are talking to yourself.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 19, 2023, 09:10:54 PM
No, I don't agree to anything you say. You are talking to yourself.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on June 20, 2023, 09:17:06 AM
Flights booked. Nice weekend away.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 22, 2023, 12:14:41 PM
I’d have thought the Walsall tickets would have been on sale by now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 26, 2023, 10:22:15 AM
Walsall tickets go on sale at 5pm today for season ticket holders.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on June 26, 2023, 05:33:10 PM
Bloody hell the Walsall tix were going fast, every time I selected some by the time i went to pay they'd gone.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on June 26, 2023, 05:34:20 PM
Bloody hell the Walsall tix were going fast, every time I selected some by the time i went to pay they'd gone.

Yeah, I forgot till 1715 and had to try a few before I got them.

They’ll release another load, I think, like last year.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: astonvilla82 on June 26, 2023, 08:06:50 PM
Bloody hell the Walsall tix were going fast, every time I selected some by the time i went to pay they'd gone.

Yeah, I forgot till 1715 and had to try a few before I got them.

They’ll release another load, I think, like last year.
villa website said sold out
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 26, 2023, 08:40:25 PM
Bloody hell the Walsall tix were going fast, every time I selected some by the time i went to pay they'd gone.

Yeah, I forgot till 1715 and had to try a few before I got them.

They’ll release another load, I think, like last year.
villa website said sold out
They usually give us a bunch more though don't they? Three sides Villa and about 200 Walsall Ultras looking lost in the middle of the Topps Tiles Stand or whatever it's callled.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on June 26, 2023, 09:38:53 PM
Well at just gone 5 you could pick the whole of the side stand and the one behind the goal but they all seemed to go very quickly, which, if previous trips are anything to go by, only leaves a section of the other side stand. I can’t look anymore as I’ve bought mine and it wont let me go back in for a shufty.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 01, 2023, 08:54:21 AM
Oh get in! I shall endeavour to nip down for the weekend. On it now.
Bollocks! I have to go back in for an operation on the 1st of August so won't be making that trip. Tsk!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 02, 2023, 07:37:08 PM
When do they return to training?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on July 02, 2023, 07:59:07 PM
Usually first week of July but given the season ended later, maybe they have an extra week off?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 02, 2023, 09:04:27 PM
No, non-internationals are meant to be back this week (I think).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 08, 2023, 10:00:58 PM
Cash, Chambers, Konsa, Carlos, Douglas Luiz, Buendia, Watkins and Digne all back today. We need a few players in don't we.  8-a-side, rush back goalie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 10, 2023, 02:50:04 PM
Just noticed that Bailey is still on international duty with Jamaica. They're through to the SF on Thursday, and then finals on Monday if they make it.

Presumably he'll be given time off before coming back to us. Missing a few of the preseason matches as a result.

Be interesting to see how we line up without him and Ramsey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 11:23:13 AM
Looking at the training footage from yesterday it's hard to see who's missing. Obviously Emi, Mings, and McGinn aren't there. Ramsey and Archer both missing too. I don't see Dendocker, Sanson, or Coutinho, which makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 11, 2023, 01:51:48 PM
Looking at the training footage from yesterday it's hard to see who's missing. Obviously Emi, Mings, and McGinn aren't there. Ramsey and Archer both missing too. I don't see Dendocker, Sanson, or Coutinho, which makes you wonder.

I was wondering the same thing myself

Nor Nakamba / Hause - i know they may be going but you would think UA has never even met them?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 01:58:50 PM
I could understand players that are 99% of the way to the exit not being at training. Rumours about Sanson and Dendonker both having multiple clubs after them could mean they're negotiating and almost ready to leave. So somewhat pointless having them there for a few days.

Coutinho was supposedly working with a fitness coach over the summer which sounds like a positive thing. Maybe whatever injury kept him out of the end of the season is still an issue and he's been allowed more time off. Or, maybe he's out the door too.

I did see Moreno on one of those short clips of players coming into the building, but I don't think he's in any of the video of full training. So possible Coutinho is there just flying under the radar.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 11, 2023, 02:19:58 PM
Moreno won't be back in training, still injured, surely?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gerrin on July 11, 2023, 02:26:32 PM
Just noticed that Bailey is still on international duty with Jamaica. They're through to the SF on Thursday, and then finals on Monday if they make it.

Presumably he'll be given time off before coming back to us. Missing a few of the preseason matches as a result.

Be interesting to see how we line up without him and Ramsey.

Was thinking the same myself, surely he'll be getting 3 weeks off once they get knocked out. Will he even be available to play at all in any of the August fixtures?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 03:41:46 PM
Moreno won't be back in training, still injured, surely?

He was at Bodymoor yesterday morning with the other players. Pretty sure he wasn't out on the pitch training with them though.
I was just pointing out he was present because we were wondering why we haven't seen Coutinho, and maybe he was still injured. But if Moreno is injured and still there then Coutinho should be too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 03:57:18 PM
Was thinking the same myself, surely he'll be getting 3 weeks off once they get knocked out. Will he even be available to play at all in any of the August fixtures?

There's not much of a difference between them losing the SF or the Final, so we'll say he's not off until this coming weekend. 3 weeks off puts him at the 6th of August, which is barely making it back for Prem kick off, never mind pre season.

Hopefully we sign a midfielder before the US matches, but they'll definitely make for interesting viewing with no Bailey or Ramsey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 11, 2023, 09:58:08 PM
Heaven knows how we'll cope without Bailey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 10:02:29 PM
Heaven knows how we'll cope without Bailey.

Not really the point, is it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 11, 2023, 10:04:18 PM
Heaven knows how we'll cope without Bailey.

Not really the point, is it.

In assessing whether or not it's a problem Bailey returning late? He's hardly essential.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
In assessing whether or not it's a problem Bailey returning late? He's hardly essential.

We were discussing the fact that two of our regular starters in midfield will be missing for all of preseason, if not longer. We've only signed one midfielder so far. So at the moment it's a question of how we're going to line up in midfield if no new additions come in before the US matches.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on July 12, 2023, 06:07:29 AM
The team for Saturday will be 4 or 5 1st team players, with the rest being from the under 23s (reserves)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 12, 2023, 01:20:21 PM
                Sinisalo

Cash   Konsa   Carlos    Digne

             Luiz    Kamara

Buendia    A.Ramsey   Traore

              Watkins

Subs from:
Chambers
Donk
Sanson
Duran
Philogene
other kids?

Not great but should be enough to play to our shape and beat Walsall

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on July 12, 2023, 03:04:39 PM
Does anyone know if/when/how Valencia tickets will go on sale?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 12, 2023, 03:08:03 PM
             
Subs from:
Chambers
Donk
Sanson
Duran
Philogene
other kids?

Have Donk and Sanson been at training this week? Granted they only shared video/pics from Monday so maybe they have.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 12, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
                Sinisalo

Cash   Konsa   Carlos    Digne

             Luiz    Kamara

Buendia    A.Ramsey   Traore

              Watkins

Subs from:
Chambers
Donk
Sanson
Duran
Philogene
other kids?

Not great but should be enough to play to our shape and beat Walsall



Isn't Sinisalo out on loan at Exeter? Is Bouba back yet?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 13, 2023, 07:21:58 AM
Sinisalo’s loan starts after this weekend so he can play.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaMart58 on July 13, 2023, 10:07:05 AM
Haven’t heard anything from AVFC regarding Valencia tickets yet but I think we will soon as tickets have just gone sale on the Valencia website. Prices range from 15 to 45 Euros depending on seat location.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 13, 2023, 11:29:25 AM
Haven’t heard anything from AVFC regarding Valencia tickets yet but I think we will soon as tickets have just gone sale on the Valencia website. Prices range from 15 to 45 Euros depending on seat location.

Walsall were selling their tickets a while before we released ours too, but shouldn't be long I guess. They like Monday afternoons, so wouldn't be surprised to see them on sale then.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 13, 2023, 12:09:50 PM
There's something up now on the site about them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 13, 2023, 12:12:03 PM
So they're literally on sale now?

Like they literally couldn't wait till I'd predicted Monday to prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 13, 2023, 12:13:53 PM
There's only 508 available and they're on sale now for €15
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on July 13, 2023, 12:32:40 PM
Any idea what an ID number is?

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on July 13, 2023, 12:39:56 PM
Managed to get one - sitting up in the gods - but should be a good weekend
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rjp on July 13, 2023, 01:57:55 PM
Our block, 733, has already sold out.  I have took a chance on 732.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 13, 2023, 02:50:01 PM
Our block, 733, has already sold out.  I have took a chance on 732.
And me for a couple. Used Passport numbers as ID number.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 13, 2023, 03:20:42 PM
It doesn't seem the most user friendly site unless there are zero seats now available. Plus I'm getting vertigo just looking at the seat map.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 13, 2023, 03:26:50 PM
I went for 773 as that was the first announced area, which I think was a fuck up on the part of Villa but what the heck. Anyway, put 8008135 in as my ID number.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: DeKuip on July 13, 2023, 03:58:31 PM
It doesn't seem the most user friendly site unless there are zero seats now available. Plus I'm getting vertigo just looking at the seat map.
Don’t sit on the back row if you have vertigo, it’s a sheer drop behind you. Not easy to grip your seat either.
Apart from being open to the elements - heavy rain and spectacular lightning storm when I was there last season, but I expect a red hot day in August could be even worse - it really is one of my favourite grounds and cities. It’ll be a shame if they ever do finish the new stadium that’s been half built for a decade now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaMart58 on July 13, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
After the Valencia ticket’s initially sold out, looks like there are some more tickets available in block 733. Suspect they will sell out too before long. This was at 4.50pm.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 13, 2023, 05:27:46 PM
Just watched the latest training video and the interview with Buendia. Is it me or has he put more muscle on?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rjp on July 13, 2023, 05:30:46 PM
I went for 773 as that was the first announced area, which I think was a fuck up on the part of Villa but what the heck. Anyway, put 8008135 in as my ID number.

It was, I don't think you'll be alone though.  https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1679462106150608896 (https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1679462106150608896)

I used my Villa fan ID.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 13, 2023, 05:36:47 PM
I went for 773 as that was the first announced area, which I think was a fuck up on the part of Villa but what the heck. Anyway, put 8008135 in as my ID number.

It was, I don't think you'll be alone though.  https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1679462106150608896 (https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1679462106150608896)

I used my Villa fan ID.

Christ, the grammar in that tweet.

Can’t they get someone vaguely literate in to write that stuff?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 13, 2023, 05:38:16 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rjp on July 13, 2023, 05:40:25 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.

It's one of the main reasons I'm going.  The football is just a bonus.  I've never been there but I went to Seville a few years ago and loved it.  T-shirts in November might have helped.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 13, 2023, 05:58:14 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.
My ManU supporting mate said the same about when he went.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 13, 2023, 06:27:26 PM
Christ, the grammar in that tweet.

Can’t they get someone vaguely literate in to write that stuff?
Jesus! They can't pour pints quickly, can't get a badge or a kit right, can't rebuild a stand, and can't write less than 240 characters without fucking it up
DISGRACE!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 14, 2023, 05:02:15 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.
My ManU supporting mate said the same about when he went.

Good job you didn't say United.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on July 14, 2023, 05:12:49 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.

Any city outside of this country does, I've not been to Mogadishu but reckon they probably do too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 14, 2023, 06:28:00 PM
I can’t recall feeling this confident entering a season simply because of who we have in charge

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1679899306231492615?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 14, 2023, 06:30:09 PM
Btw anyone thinking of going, Valencia is a brilliant city.

Puts the UK’s similarly sized cities to shame in terms of infrastructure investment.
My ManU supporting mate said the same about when he went.

Good job you didn't say United.
Haha luckily I never do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Border villan on July 14, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
I can’t recall feeling this confident entering a season simply because of who we have in charge

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1679899306231492615?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag

Emery looks a bit one footed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 14, 2023, 07:08:00 PM
Gone are the days where you wouldn't see a ball for the first 2 weeks of pre-season training, when it was nothing but running.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Archieavfc on July 14, 2023, 09:41:33 PM
I am going to the game in Orlando with my son. Does anyone know if they do open training sessions on these tours or how to find out if they will be available. Would be great to have some club/fan interactions as well as the game. Thanks
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rooboy316 on July 15, 2023, 04:33:27 AM
I went for 773 as that was the first announced area, which I think was a fuck up on the part of Villa but what the heck. Anyway, put 8008135 in as my ID number.

Kids these days, who don’t use calculators, won’t understand the joy that would bring.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 15, 2023, 09:56:51 AM
Any idea what an ID number is?
They are asking you for the Spanish DNI (Documento National de Identidad). You often get this on Spain and wonder what you have to do if you are a tourist. I would put my French CNI ID card number or one of my passport numbers. Or try 01 811 8055.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 09:59:30 AM
Who is the tall skinny lad at the back, next to the old guy?
(https://i.ibb.co/8rF99SV/IMG-5640.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8rF99SV)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 10:00:58 AM
Unai not happy with someone!

(https://i.ibb.co/N2ZJvh0/IMG-5641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N2ZJvh0)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: luke95 on July 15, 2023, 10:04:37 AM
Who is the tall skinny lad at the back, next to the old guy?
(https://i.ibb.co/8rF99SV/IMG-5640.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8rF99SV)


Kamara
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 15, 2023, 10:05:40 AM
The start of the new season is now upon us. Will there be specific match threads

In particular for the summer series next week but even today so we can discuss tactics and players.
Exciting!
Up the Villa !
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on July 15, 2023, 10:33:47 AM
Who is the tall skinny lad at the back, next to the old guy?
(https://i.ibb.co/8rF99SV/IMG-5640.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8rF99SV)

The lad we've just signed from WBA?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on July 15, 2023, 10:52:46 AM
I wonder how well Villa Tv will work today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 15, 2023, 10:58:08 AM
Won't get to find out!
I'm sick of trying to purchase the three match package. It won't accept my linked phone number even though I've had it since mobiles first came out and has been registered with them for ever. Also won't recognise my card even though I've used it on there for years.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 11:17:49 AM
Unai not happy with someone!

(https://i.ibb.co/N2ZJvh0/IMG-5641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N2ZJvh0)


The full shitness of the new kit has dawned upon him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 11:28:23 AM
Absolutely no luck buying the 3 match or single match subscription on the SHIT official site.

Why do some things never, ever change?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on July 15, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
Absolutely no luck buying the 3 match or single match subscription on the SHIT official site.

Why do some things never, ever change?

Are the games included in the yearly subscription?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 11:52:07 AM
No.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 11:54:49 AM
Has anyone succeeded in buying this match on the OS?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 15, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
No
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 15, 2023, 12:01:20 PM
My Andoid Pravda app keeps stopping. I can't even open it for two seconds. Useless.

Edit. Just cleared cache and storage data in Android settings and logged in again. Working. UTV!

Edit. Edit. It's started crashing again 30 seconds later. ******!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 12:02:03 PM
The Villa OS is by far the most confusing user experience I've had anywhere on the web.

A mish-mash of different logins, supporter IDs, different urls yada yada. It's dreadful, just awful.

The reason it is failing to work is because their integration into Stripe (the payment merchants) is not set up properly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 12:06:44 PM
The Villa OS is by far the most confusing user experience I've had anywhere on the web.

A mish-mash of different logins, supporter IDs, different urls yada yada. It's dreadful, just awful.

The reason it is failing to work is because their integration into Stripe (the payment merchants) is not set up properly.

Yep it's abysmal. I tried to log in to see if I could get some cheap shite from the Prides Rewards nonsense, but couldn't so gave up. It's as bad a commercial set up as you're ever going to get.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 15, 2023, 12:15:43 PM
They (the crack AVFC web devs and executives, if not the YTS lad to whom they gave the project) need to create some accounts and fan IDs using phones and laptops. If (IF) they manage to do this then they need to try and buy tickets, tat from the online shop, and Villa TV packages just to see what a total pig's arse it is.

Then they need to burn it to the ground and employ people who are competent to redo it all. While they are sorting out the kits, the beer pumps, the badge, the new stand and the playing squad. FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 15, 2023, 12:21:22 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/c8r2rXT/Screenshot-20230715-122007-Twitter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c8r2rXT)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 12:22:50 PM
Philogene.

Nice!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
Interesting what league Feeney ends up on loan.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 15, 2023, 12:24:07 PM
That fucking MS Paint badge is still haunting us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2023, 12:26:01 PM
No Youri.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2023, 12:26:30 PM
I managed to buy the 3 game package with no problem. Whether it works or not is another matter!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 15, 2023, 12:28:56 PM
We really need some quality additions up front.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 12:29:23 PM
I've tried safari, chrome, brave and even Microsoft Edge across all devices (ipad, iphone and Mac) and they're all not working, whilst the console shows an error message about their integration with Stripe, the payments processor.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2023, 12:32:39 PM
No Youri.

He was with Belgium in middle of June so basically all our international players not involved otherwise he'd be starting you'd think.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 12:35:34 PM
I've tried safari, chrome, brave and even Microsoft Edge across all devices (ipad, iphone and Mac) and they're all not working, whilst the console shows an error message about their integration with Stripe, the payments processor.

I've just got it to work using Apple Pay.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 12:37:14 PM
Looks like he wants to have a good look at our best kids, Tim Aaron and Philogene.  You never know they may save us a list of money if they can play the Unai way
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 12:38:56 PM
I've tried safari, chrome, brave and even Microsoft Edge across all devices (ipad, iphone and Mac) and they're all not working, whilst the console shows an error message about their integration with Stripe, the payments processor.

I've just got it to work using Apple Pay.

ie through the OS on an iOS device?

I can't even get anything to happen when I click the link to purchase
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 12:40:09 PM
I've tried safari, chrome, brave and even Microsoft Edge across all devices (ipad, iphone and Mac) and they're all not working, whilst the console shows an error message about their integration with Stripe, the payments processor.

I've just got it to work using Apple Pay.

ie through the OS on an iOS device?

I can't even get anything to happen when I click the link to purchase

Yep, Safari on a Mac.

That's not to say that it's going to actually work though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 15, 2023, 12:46:39 PM
I've tried safari, chrome, brave and even Microsoft Edge across all devices (ipad, iphone and Mac) and they're all not working, whilst the console shows an error message about their integration with Stripe, the payments processor.

I've just got it to work using Apple Pay.
Just managed to do it on the app on the phone using Apple pay as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Taylor on July 15, 2023, 12:48:32 PM
I thought Sanson had gone.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 12:49:14 PM
No joy for me. Tried through the app (which just opens the website in an embedded browser anyway) and same shite.

Click on match pass = nothing happens.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stevo_st on July 15, 2023, 12:49:25 PM
Same
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 15, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
Sorting the website must be high on the list of Heck's task list.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 01:03:41 PM
I've got a link of anyone wants it?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 15, 2023, 01:04:29 PM
Yeah, go on then.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:04:38 PM
Kick off delayed 10 mins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 01:05:00 PM
Kick off delayed 10 minutes, traffic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on July 15, 2023, 01:05:16 PM
Yes please, thanks.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on July 15, 2023, 01:07:27 PM
I've got a link of anyone wants it?

If you don't mind, cheers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:08:03 PM
So is the match pass working for anyone?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:09:09 PM
Just watching the pre match warm up.  Not your usual running around and stretching is it!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:09:42 PM
So is the match pass working for anyone?

Yep works here in northern cyprus
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 15, 2023, 01:10:12 PM
I've got a link of anyone wants it?

I'd be very grateful Axl if you would oblige me, no problem if you can't I'd understand.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Billy Walker on July 15, 2023, 01:12:00 PM
I keep clicking on Villa TV to buy match access - no joy.  Please sort out the whole online operation Villa!

EDIT: Working now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 01:16:10 PM
Feeney looking decent first few minutes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:26:28 PM
Feeney looking decent first few minutes.

Yes he looks very comfortable on the ball
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on July 15, 2023, 01:27:29 PM
I've got a link of anyone wants it?
yes please having problems trying to buy pass
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2023, 01:28:32 PM
I’m managing to watch it on my phone in the motorway. Obviously there is some buffering but as good as could be expected in the circumstances.
Timed my first ‘Bloody Hell Villa!’ Of the season at 1.52 into the game!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 01:29:59 PM
I've got a link of anyone wants it?
yes please having problems trying to buy pass

I've exceeded my limit of 10 messages an hour, apparently! 😂

Sorry, mate. Will send to you as soon as I can. Hopefully someone else I've already sent the link to can pass it on to you.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2023, 01:32:42 PM
I'll take a link please, if there's a working one around.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 15, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
I would also be grateful if anyone else can pass a link along
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:35:10 PM
Pluses: Diego being back and looking strong, Feeney, Tim looking comfortable. Not so pluses - Buendia giving the ball away
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 15, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
If anyone has a link they can share with me please ...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 15, 2023, 01:36:24 PM
I'll take a link please, if there's a working one around.

Me too please. Thanks
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:36:42 PM
Pluses: Diego being back and looking strong, Feeney, Tim looking comfortable. Not so pluses - Buendia giving the ball away

I know it’s a friendly but Buendia is really pissing me off at the moment and it looks like he’s getting frustrated as well
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Should have been 1-0. Ramsey just missed it from a nice pass from Ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:40:27 PM
Nice run by JPB
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 01:41:43 PM
Aaron should have slotted that chance set up by Ollie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 01:45:49 PM
Boooo
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:45:50 PM
Boooooooooo 1-0 Walsall. Emery OUT
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 15, 2023, 01:45:58 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rooboy316 on July 15, 2023, 01:46:06 PM
Would love a link if anyone would be so kind!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 01:46:14 PM
Oops, really bad mistake by Feeney.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 01:46:19 PM
1-0 Walsall Johnson. Poor play by our young defender.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:46:41 PM
Shit goal to concede.  Young Feeney fucked up there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:47:21 PM
That’s the end of us signing Vini Jr and Mbappe. Last thing they will want is to sign for a club that is losing to Walsall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:53:57 PM
Douglas Luiz really is a lovely footballer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2023, 01:55:46 PM
Last time I went to the annual Walsall pre season game it was Fashanu’s debut.

VillaTV working fine for me. Feeney needs a loan to gain experience, all young defenders make mistakes, he has a lot of talent though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 01:56:24 PM
Pen to Villa
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2023, 01:57:19 PM
Well taken pen
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 01:57:23 PM
1-1 Greta play by Philogene
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:57:25 PM
Nice work from JPB. He’s been really good so far.

Is Anwar going to take it. Because Ollie isn’t any good from the spot
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 01:57:40 PM
Get in Villa
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 01:57:41 PM
Ollie scores
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 15, 2023, 01:59:06 PM
Last time I went to the annual Walsall pre season game it was Fashanu’s debut.

VillaTV working fine for me. Feeney needs a loan to gain experience, all young defenders make mistakes, he has a lot of talent though.

Feeney looks very composed to me despite that weak header.  Tim's been my standout this first half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 01:59:30 PM
Philogene has been quite good in this first half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 15, 2023, 01:59:31 PM
Can anyone hook me up with a link please?

Regards,
Smirker
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stevo_st on July 15, 2023, 02:08:57 PM
A Link would be appreciated too
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 15, 2023, 02:12:31 PM
I think only way to watch is paying through villa tv. It's 11 quid for next 3 friendlies
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2023, 02:16:32 PM
I think only way to watch is paying through villa tv. It's 11 quid for next 3 friendlies

I coughed up, it's pretty good value. In Australia / NZ for the rest of them so not sure if I will end up watching them live though.

Scrappy first half, hopefully a better second half beckons. Philogene Bidace always seems to play well in pre season, I'd like to see him get some game time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:17:06 PM
Morgan, Konsa, Chambers on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 15, 2023, 02:20:39 PM
I assume since nobody's mentioned it we haven't debuted the new away kit today
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: TelfordVilla on July 15, 2023, 02:23:20 PM
Morgan, Konsa, Chambers on
  who has gone off ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 02:24:00 PM
Much better second half so far.  Got a feeling Unai likes Philogene
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 15, 2023, 02:24:12 PM
Morgan, Konsa, Chambers on
  who has gone off ?

Feeney, Iroegbunam, Ramsey
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2023, 02:26:10 PM
Much better second half so far.  Got a feeling Unai likes Philogene

I do think its slightly odd that he's been written off by a lot of people, not surprised to see him getting a chance.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 15, 2023, 02:26:30 PM
Much better second half so far.  Got a feeling Unai likes Philogene

Hope so. Something about him. Emi Bundia has been poor.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 15, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
I know it's just a run about but buendia looks so ineffective so often
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2023, 02:34:11 PM
I know it's just a run about but buendia looks so ineffective so often

Very disappointing run out from him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 02:35:41 PM
Carlos been disappointing too
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:35:56 PM
Wasted opportunity. Buendia nice run but should have crossed earlier
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
Carlos been disappointing too

Has he? He played well first half. Hasn’t had a lot to do overall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 15, 2023, 02:37:39 PM
Load of young 'uns coming on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:39:00 PM
That should be another penalty to us
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 02:43:48 PM
Walsall kicking fuck out of our kids but they are playing around them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on July 15, 2023, 02:45:02 PM
Isn't this the game last summer where Duggee announced his prowess as a direct corner-goal wizard?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:45:23 PM
Isn't this the game last summer where Duggee announced his prowess as a direct corner-goal wizard?

Yep
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:46:24 PM
Walsall kicking fuck out of our kids but they are playing around them

This is what happens when journeymen players and players referenced only as trialist A or B are trying to get a job at the lower levels.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 02:47:23 PM
Loving watching these kids
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 02:47:26 PM
Very wasteful Villa boys there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 15, 2023, 02:47:40 PM
Buendia needs upgrading .   Ok for the bench but not a first starter
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 02:51:12 PM
I can see why Oreilly is highly rated
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2023, 02:51:28 PM
Bogarde and O'Reilly have looked really good since they came on. Young looks like he might become a very good player as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 02:51:53 PM
The kids have looked very impressive since they came on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: usav on July 15, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
Buendia needs upgrading .   Ok for the bench but not a first starter

That’s exactly where he will be on the bench.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 02:53:14 PM
I’d like to have seen Rory Wilson or Louie Barry as part of the run out. We don’t have many forward options
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2023, 02:55:09 PM
I didn't catch much of the first half but from what I've seen Buendia has looked like the kid getting a bit of experience and O'Reilly has looked like the established player coming on for a bit of fitness.

I’d like to have seen Rory Wilson or Louie Barry as part of the run out. We don’t have many forward options

I agree, Kellyman looks very raw and is being bullied a bit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 03:05:09 PM
Emery OUT. Game ends 1-1 vs Walsall.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 15, 2023, 03:05:23 PM
Some of the second half substitutes looked good. Scrappy game that I don't think tells us much, but still good to see a match again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 15, 2023, 03:06:55 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 15, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
Bogarde was the pick of the subs for me. If the plan is to bring him through as a right back then I'd be happy to see a temporary option like Meunier come in for 12-18 months and let him and KKH fight over earning a spot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 15, 2023, 03:08:43 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

Didn't we get relegated when we did?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 15, 2023, 03:09:31 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

Same here, a draw will do on our first run out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 15, 2023, 03:10:06 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

Didn't we get relegated when we did?

Wouldn’t surprise me. We never seem to do any good when we do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 03:10:40 PM
Emery OUT. Game ends 1-1 vs Walsall.
Yea this team of millionaires couldn't even beat a third division outfit and they are telling us that another 30K are waiting  to buy season tickets.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 03:10:50 PM
O'Reilly looked the pick of the kids. Wasn't taking any shit as the game got a bit more physical.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2023, 03:12:21 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.
I don't want all I just want 1 win and so far they have not won a game. Manager needs to get real.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 15, 2023, 03:13:30 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.
I don't want all I just want 1 win and so far they have not won a game. Manager needs to get real.

We need more Spanish speaking players. And more Americans because of Heck.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 15, 2023, 03:13:46 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

Didn't we get relegated when we did?
I think we did. Conversely I think the pre-season results in 1980 were quite poor.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Man With A Stick on July 15, 2023, 03:13:50 PM
In the DOL years we always used to coast through pre-season, usually on some tour of Scandinavia and stick about 14 past a bunch of no-hopers.  Since then I've paid no attention to friendly results whatsoever.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 15, 2023, 03:28:41 PM
I infer an inverse relationship. Poor pre-season results = good season, good pre-season results = crap season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on July 15, 2023, 03:34:16 PM
I can see why Oreilly is highly rated

O'really?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 15, 2023, 03:38:50 PM
nice to see the lesser spotted Sanson out there today
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 15, 2023, 03:46:56 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

I don't want all I just want 1 win and so far they have not won a game. Manager needs to get real.

Let's not go there when Ancelotti will soon need to be replaced.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Luffbralion on July 15, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
For them I was impressed with that lad Trialist; he seemed to be everywhere.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rougegorge on July 15, 2023, 03:56:38 PM
The second string did ok when they came on, but then again Walsall had their second string on by that stage so the level of opponents was lower.

Philogene did quite well, but I couldn't have called out anyone else in particular and obviously there wasn't a lot of energy being expended.

Pre-season is strange as there are lots of players we won't see again in the first team squad until maybe a league cup game and then in all probability we won't see them again afterwards.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 04:13:21 PM
I thought Sanson did well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 15, 2023, 04:14:37 PM
I get nervous when we win all our pre-season games.

Didn't we get relegated when we did?
I think we did. Conversely I think the pre-season results in 1980 were quite poor.

Which carried on into the League Cup
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 15, 2023, 04:25:17 PM
Shouldn't Coutinho have been involved in this?

Non-international and given he's not played for six months you'd think he'd be getting regular minutes in pre season if he was a genuine part of the squad this season.

I think he'll be somewhere else by August.

Duran was interesting omission unless he had a knock as he wasn't involved for Colombia during June.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 15, 2023, 04:29:13 PM
Shouldn't Coutinho have been involved in this?

Non-international and given he's not played for six months you'd think he'd be getting regular minutes in pre season if he was a genuine part of the squad this season.

I think he'll be somewhere else by August.

Duran was interesting omission unless he had a knock as he wasn't involved for Colombia during June.

Coutinho was on the injured list i believe?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: jwarry on July 15, 2023, 05:34:00 PM
What we need to understand is that Unai wouldn’t have spent hours analysing Walsall (but there again I might be wrong) so no conclusions can be drawn from today other than he got a good look at the kids
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 15, 2023, 05:36:44 PM
What we need to understand is that Unai wouldn’t have spent hours analysing Walsall (but there again I might be wrong) so no conclusions can be drawn from today other than he got a good look at the kids

Unai has probably spent 20 hours a day for the last two weeks analysing Walsall! ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 15, 2023, 05:46:25 PM
Was Unai interviewed after the game and was he asked about transfers do we know?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gareth on July 15, 2023, 05:56:12 PM
Was a pretty good knock about, more fun once all the kids came on.  Tim best first half, enjoyed Bogarde, Revan & Chrisene when they came on

Agree with comments on Buendia, he just doesn’t stand out to me…that should have been a stroll to influence and he was poor

Were the team late that created the delay? Walsall went through a full day match day warm up before we even came out. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 15, 2023, 09:00:19 PM
9328 including 3975 Villa.  That’s pretty impressive in the middle of July.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 15, 2023, 09:09:39 PM
I hope we let Walsall keep all the money.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 15, 2023, 09:10:18 PM
I think we do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 15, 2023, 09:18:07 PM
The weather looked good in Walsall, it's been lashing it down here on and off all day.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 15, 2023, 09:22:42 PM
The weather looked good in Walsall, it's been lashing it down here on and off all day.

Don’t get me started!

I saw the forecast for rain so went dressed like a north sea fisherman and took the piss out of my mate on the way who hadn’t even brought a coat, the fool!

 >:(
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 15, 2023, 09:26:06 PM
I hope we let Walsall keep all the money.

Isn't it part of the agreement that allows Villa Ladies to play home games at Bescot?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 15, 2023, 09:36:17 PM
The weather looked good in Walsall, it's been lashing it down here on and off all day.

Don’t get me started!

I saw the forecast for rain so went dressed like a north sea fisherman and took the piss out of my mate on the way who hadn’t even brought a coat, the fool!

 >:(
I was literally 10 miles away watching on TV and the rain was almost washing the house away yet Walsall was in a heatwave
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 16, 2023, 09:18:19 AM
I thought we started sloppily and never really got out of that, all a bit pedestrian. Duggie the pick of the lot for me although Sanson also impressed in trying to pick up the pace a little.

Has anyone got a list of the second half players, as hadn’t a clue who some of them were although I thought the wingers were promising in spells.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 16, 2023, 10:17:59 AM
A few young lads would have got some great selfies with Duggie when he was taking that corner and there was an injury hold up, that will have made their day. Well done.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 16, 2023, 12:45:26 PM
Something I remembered, just before 1 the players were practicing defending crosses supervised by a coach I didn’t recognise, from close by it looked a bit of a mess with many players indicating they weren’t sure of where they were supposed to be.  No surprise that we conceded from a set piece.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: j66acd on July 16, 2023, 01:21:37 PM
Something I remembered, just before 1 the players were practicing defending crosses supervised by a coach I didn’t recognise, from close by it looked a bit of a mess with many players indicating they weren’t sure of where they were supposed to be.  No surprise that we conceded from a set piece.

I thought the same, ironically Carlos managed to get his head on one cross though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 16, 2023, 02:21:29 PM
Looked like an error from Feeney lead to the goal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 17, 2023, 02:56:50 PM
the U21's are playing Solihull Moors this Wednesday , £7 in
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 17, 2023, 04:06:32 PM
Only just found out that all 3 games in the states are on Sky TV

Sunday 23rd @ Midnight vs Newcastle  - sky main event

Thursday 27th @ Midnight vs Fulham - Sky football

Sunday 30th @ 17.00 vs Brentford - Sky sports

Sweeeeet

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 17, 2023, 04:08:10 PM
Ta.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 17, 2023, 04:59:01 PM
Only just found out that all 3 games in the states are on Sky TV

Sunday 23rd @ Midnight vs Newcastle  - sky main event

Thursday 27th @ Midnight vs Fulham - Sky football

Sunday 30th @ 17.00 vs Brentford - Sky sports

Sweeeeet



The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 17, 2023, 05:59:46 PM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 17, 2023, 06:04:00 PM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.

Penarol?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villan For Life on July 17, 2023, 06:10:29 PM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.

Penarol?

Yes we played them in Tokyo and it kicked off about 3am our time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 17, 2023, 07:11:54 PM
wasn't on live TV was it ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 17, 2023, 07:14:44 PM
Only just found out that all 3 games in the states are on Sky TV

Sunday 23rd @ Midnight vs Newcastle  - sky main event

Thursday 27th @ Midnight vs Fulham - Sky football

Sunday 30th @ 17.00 vs Brentford - Sky sports

Sweeeeet
Slow days in work the next day!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on July 17, 2023, 07:31:21 PM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.

Penarol?

Yes we played them in Tokyo and it kicked off about 3am our time.

Butler did a special on BRMB and played "Four In The Morning". Gavin was in Japan I think.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 17, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Intercontinental Cup against Penarol.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 17, 2023, 07:46:21 PM
Anyone up for a conspiracy theory as to why some of the players have training gear with their numbers on them, while some don't?

And you're not allowed to say it's because Castore are shit and didn't remember to put numbers on all the gear.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 17, 2023, 07:51:41 PM
I couldn't care less what they wear as long as they are not useless fuckers on the pitch when there are league points and cup-ties to be won. That also goes for the wanky fashion shoot pics in the car park at BMH. Just get on the training pitch and listen to Unai!*

*I do realise that many people enjoy this sort of 'proximity' with the stars. :-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: WarszaVillan on July 17, 2023, 08:21:46 PM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.

Penarol?

Yes we played them in Tokyo and it kicked off about 3am our time.

Butler did a special on BRMB and played "Four In The Morning". Gavin was in Japan I think.

World Club championship. Mortimer hit the bar from a free-kick I think
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 17, 2023, 09:52:01 PM
I drove up from Southampton to Stratford Upon Avon to listen to the  Penerol game on the radio. It was the closest I could get a BRMB signal. Parked up in a Little Chef car park for 2 hours and then drove home.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 17, 2023, 10:51:54 PM
I drove up from Southampton to Stratford Upon Avon to listen to the  Penerol game on the radio. It was the closest I could get a BRMB signal. Parked up in a Little Chef car park for 2 hours and then drove home.

Now that is serious commitment to the cause.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on July 18, 2023, 06:17:24 AM
I remember coming back from the pub, and listening to the Penerol match on my transistor radio.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 18, 2023, 06:24:19 AM
I remember coming back from the pub, and listening to the Penerol match on my transistor radio.

I was listening on the radio at home. For some reason I remember it being in the middle of the night, but thats probably because i was so young.  I also remember Sid hitting their crossbar at 0-0.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 18, 2023, 07:18:56 AM
A few of us stayed up all night at my mate’s house. One of them phoned in to Butler after the game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 18, 2023, 07:59:40 AM
I remember coming back from the pub, and listening to the Penerol match on my transistor radio.

Blimey, that was a late lock in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 18, 2023, 10:03:07 AM
wasn't on live TV was it ?

Page 304 of Ceefax
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 18, 2023, 10:04:13 AM
Anyone up for a conspiracy theory as to why some of the players have training gear with their numbers on them, while some don't?

And you're not allowed to say it's because Castore are shit and didn't remember to put numbers on all the gear.

Err, they've bulked up/slimmed down over summer...?

Tielemans has number 8 interestingly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 18, 2023, 10:07:48 AM
Some players remembered their kits, some had to have a rummage through lost property or do it in their pants.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 18, 2023, 10:09:41 AM
The last time i stayed up for a Villa game that late was when we played that team in the Super Cup or whatever it was.

Barcelona.

Penarol?

Yes we played them in Tokyo and it kicked off about 3am our time.

Yep, it's almost as if I deliberately said Barcelona to lightheartedly suggest that Clampy doesn't often get to stay up late (past 10) to watch the Villa. :)

Although we did play Barca in the UEFA Super Cup whereas we played Penarol in the Intercontinental Cup (Toyota Cup).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 18, 2023, 10:29:26 AM
I thought Penarol was something my urologist prescribes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 18, 2023, 11:22:26 AM
I thought Penarol was something my urologist prescribes.

Does it really make it smaller if it's too large?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 18, 2023, 04:02:54 PM
My Dad and I lay on the sofa with the radio (or wireless as he called it) on. Very scatty signal if i recall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 18, 2023, 05:54:51 PM
Very scatty signal if i recall.

Other than the disappointment of losing that's my only other memory of the game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 18, 2023, 08:26:30 PM
The only time I’ve heard Penerol mentioned anywhere is in relation to that game so I was a bit surprised, via Wiki, to find that they are the 3rd most successful side in the Copa Libertadores with 5 wins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2023, 09:47:21 PM
The first team squad are flying out to the U S of A tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 18, 2023, 11:38:07 PM
Presumably we will get to know who makes the plane and more importantly who does not. I would imagine Bailey will meet them there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 18, 2023, 11:41:51 PM
Presumably we will get to know who makes the plane and more importantly who does not. I would imagine Bailey will meet them there

Bailey only finished his season on Thursday last. I wouldn't expect to see him with the team until they're back home for the Lazio/Valencia games.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 19, 2023, 06:57:03 AM
The only time I’ve heard Penerol mentioned anywhere is in relation to that game so I was a bit surprised, via Wiki, to find that they are the 3rd most successful side in the Copa Libertadores with 5 wins.

Most successful team I Uruguay and Nacional their only real rivals there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2023, 10:34:55 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Ntx8NyF/F1-Yv3-Xb-Xg-AA3-Kfm.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ntx8NyF)

Squad for US games.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2023, 10:36:10 AM
No Duran, no Iroegbunam?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2023, 10:37:01 AM
No Feeney either. Signed a new deal yesterday, wonder if he is off on loan?

Also 12 midfielders and 3 strikers, one of whom is Bailey, and another untried at top level shows how short we are of attacking options.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 19, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
Does anyone know if there is a squad limit for it?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 19, 2023, 10:42:52 AM
Nice to see Phil there.

Olsen, fucking hell.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 19, 2023, 10:42:55 AM
No Feeney either. Signed a new deal yesterday, wonder if he is off on loan?

Also 12 midfielders and 3 strikers, one of whom is Bailey, and another untried at top level shows how short we are of attacking options.

Kellyman and Philogene listed as midfielders though and both generally play higher than that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 19, 2023, 10:50:58 AM
There's no Feeney listed, but I thought I saw a pic of him on the official page?  Or is it Marschall?  The gingery one on their own?

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/july/19/villa-depart-for-usa/

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2023, 10:55:30 AM
It's Marschall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 19, 2023, 10:55:39 AM
Just wondering what airline are they flying with? Doesn't look like BA business class seats so might be a charter.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 19, 2023, 10:59:19 AM
I'm disappointed not to see trays of cocaine, a la Motley Crue.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 19, 2023, 11:00:49 AM
Just wondering what airline are they flying with? Doesn't look like BA business class seats so might be a charter.

Charter for sure!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2023, 11:04:45 AM
No Duran, no Iroegbunam?

My first thoughts too. Tommy O’REILY stood out at Walsall I thought too. Disappointed if Tim isn’t involved around first team this year given that we need to list homegrown talent for europa squads
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 19, 2023, 11:11:00 AM
We've signed young players up to new contracts and then sent them out on loan, so Feeney being left out makes sense from that perspective.

Emery has said Duran will play a part so don't get that, unless he's injured?

Looks like Iroegbunam is going out on loan then, assuming it's not an oversight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 19, 2023, 11:12:40 AM
No Duran, no Iroegbunam?

My first thoughts too. Tommy O’REILY stood out at Walsall I thought too. Disappointed if Tim isn’t involved around first team this year given that we need to list homegrown talent for europa squads

Tim adds nothing in terms of homegrown, he's U21 so we could play him in every game even if we don't name him. The only player who could have an impact on the squad we annonuce for Europe is Philogene who is old enough to need to announced and has bene with us long enough to be 'club-grown'. I thought Davis as well but he wasn't with us long enough before turning 21 to count.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 19, 2023, 11:19:41 AM
Nice to see Aaron Ramsey (and Archer) included on the trip and interesting that Sanson has gone as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 19, 2023, 12:32:16 PM
This is the first chance that Unai has had to have a look at Sanson.

There's a player in there, it will be interesting to see how much game time he gets.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2023, 01:42:43 PM
This is the first chance that Unai has had to have a look at Sanson.

There's a player in there, it will be interesting to see how much game time he gets.


He could have had a look at him if he wanted, by not sending him out on loan. I fully suspect he'll be on his way this summer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 19, 2023, 02:05:19 PM
This is the first chance that Unai has had to have a look at Sanson.

There's a player in there, it will be interesting to see how much game time he gets.


He could have had a look at him if he wanted, by not sending him out on loan. I fully suspect he'll be on his way this summer.

As soon as Emery arrived we started our drive up the league - he really did not have time to see him apart from training ground. He played and scored in the shambles that was Stevenage so pre season is ideal.

I think Duran is on the continent so would be easier to meet us there - same for Bailey
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 19, 2023, 02:18:12 PM

I think Duran is on the continent so would be easier to meet us there - same for Bailey

I don't think it matters where they physically are at the moment, Duran simply isn't on the official squad list.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 19, 2023, 02:24:13 PM
Where is the idea that Duran isn't at BMH coimng from? He was on the 'day in the life' video that they did with Cash last week.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 19, 2023, 02:42:30 PM
No Duran, no Iroegbunam?
One of the Footy Visionary team got it wrong again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 19, 2023, 07:40:56 PM
U21s currently 2-0 up against Birmingham City lite.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 19, 2023, 08:34:30 PM
It sounds like they're still having to manage the load on Duran.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 19, 2023, 08:58:05 PM
Can't see him going on loan if there's any kind of physical worries/issues of that kind.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 19, 2023, 09:01:46 PM
U21s currently 2-0 up against Birmingham City lite.
Barry got the first (pen). Not sure about goal 2
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Holte132 on July 19, 2023, 09:15:55 PM
U21s currently 2-0 up against Birmingham City lite.
Barry got the first (pen). Not sure about goal 2

Wait, what?? Barry took the penalty?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rob_bridge on July 19, 2023, 11:22:18 PM
U21s currently 2-0 up against Birmingham City lite.

I think that as a look at the Moors fan base tonight-  it really is Aston Villa lite nowadays. I saw 1 overt Blues fan.

Quite funny going to my Lads nursery and seeing Villa parents and kids outnumbering Blues by about 4 to 1.
In Shirley.

As I said their fanbase never grew much even after 2002 and ours continued even when  we were crap under Lambert etc Al.

Now we are everywhere and they aren't
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 20, 2023, 01:22:47 AM
Finished 0-2, still unclear who scored the second but Barry definitely took the penalty, for  once.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 20, 2023, 06:55:12 AM
Rico Richards got the second. The new kid we just got from the Albion.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hillbilly on July 20, 2023, 07:10:59 AM
Heads up for Aussies. The games in the US are being shown on Optus if you are a subscriber.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 20, 2023, 10:12:56 PM
return flights to Valencia only about £200 via Gatwick if anyone tempted
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on July 21, 2023, 08:36:02 AM
I read that Gatwick airport staff are on strike from Thursday 3rd August until Monday 7th August - lots of flights have been cancelled
 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 21, 2023, 10:04:02 AM
I won't be able to 'nip down' for the weekend as I'll be having a spot of surgery that week. :-(
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 21, 2023, 02:32:56 PM
U21s currently 2-0 up against Birmingham City lite.

I think that as a look at the Moors fan base tonight-  it really is Aston Villa lite nowadays. I saw 1 overt Blues fan.

Quite funny going to my Lads nursery and seeing Villa parents and kids outnumbering Blues by about 4 to 1.
In Shirley.

As I said their fanbase never grew much even after 2002 and ours continued even when  we were crap under Lambert etc Al.

Now we are everywhere and they aren't

Same: Chelmsley.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on July 21, 2023, 02:56:37 PM
Same in Castle Brom too, my lad had Sports Day on Wednesday at Park Hall and despite him not really being bothered with football, was delighted to tell me that Sweet Caroline was played at the end of the day and all the kids were lustily singing our modified chorus.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: steamer on July 21, 2023, 03:07:46 PM
We are everywhere and nowhere baby
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 21, 2023, 04:23:11 PM
We are everywhere and nowhere baby

Pulp or Suede?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 22, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Is this Sunday night at 12 or Monday night at 12?

Mail saying Monday at midnight, which suggests Sunday night to me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 22, 2023, 04:01:10 PM
Will there be a summer series thread for the upcoming games
It makes sense in many ways.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 22, 2023, 04:06:18 PM
Will there be a summer series thread for the upcoming games
It makes sense in many ways.

Maybe everything will remain on this thread, footy?

I believe the Walsall game was covered here.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 22, 2023, 04:15:45 PM
Is this Sunday night at 12 or Monday night at 12?

Mail saying Monday at midnight, which suggests Sunday night to me.

Sunday night at midnight, Percy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 22, 2023, 04:15:56 PM
Is this Sunday night at 12 or Monday night at 12?

Mail saying Monday at midnight, which suggests Sunday night to me.
Sunday night. Coverage on sky starts at 11.30pm ko at 12 (or 0.00).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 22, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Cheers lads.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 22, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
Will there be a summer series thread for the upcoming games
It makes sense in many ways.

It all stays in here. This was pointed out to you a few days ago.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 04:27:29 PM
7pm over here chaps. You’re more than welcome to join me at my place for a few beers
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 22, 2023, 04:30:35 PM
Watching the training video just uploaded there and can't tell if there's some impressive finishing on show or it's just Olsen Olsening again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 22, 2023, 04:33:41 PM
Nuts. I thought it was midnight tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 22, 2023, 04:35:05 PM
Nuts. I thought it was midnight tonight.

I’d have put money on you tuning in 24 hours late.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 22, 2023, 07:34:56 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCStatto/status/1682731584217137153?t=9hPwitpj-RgDRJ4lwvQplg&s=08

Tomorrow night's game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: UK Redsox on July 22, 2023, 07:45:09 PM
Nuts. I thought it was midnight tonight.

I’d have put money on you tuning in 24 hours late.

...and at the Bescot :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 11:14:34 PM
https://twitter.com/stephenjoyce80/status/1682874136786526208?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag

The man
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 02:08:36 AM
I hope the pitch isn’t fucked by the time we play Newcastle. All the games are being played at Lincoln Financial Field. We kick off as the third game in two days, 2 hours after Brentford play Fulham.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 23, 2023, 03:59:40 AM
...and over 65,000 in attendance for Brighton v Chelsea. It looks like they have laid down grass too - that'll be much better than the artificial crap they normally play on.

Taking the family down for the games tomorrow, wonder if Diaby will make an appearance ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 04:25:54 AM
...and over 65,000 in attendance for Brighton v Chelsea. It looks like they have laid down grass too - that'll be much better than the artificial crap they normally play on.

Taking the family down for the games tomorrow, wonder if Diaby will make an appearance ?

Apparently joins the team for training in Monday. So might see him game 2, more likely game 3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 23, 2023, 04:35:20 AM
Cheers TV.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 23, 2023, 05:27:41 AM
Will be very interesting to watch the game upcoming night, guess I will be down by the river. Start of season kind of and what an interesting season it builds up to be. What formation will be etc. I think we will concede early on and loose the game - Newcastle being a bit ahead of us in season preparation, is my guess and but we will come stronger next two games. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ROBBO on July 23, 2023, 07:38:37 AM
Heads up for Aussies. The games in the US are being shown on Optus if you are a subscriber.

Brilliant news.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 23, 2023, 01:23:42 PM
This shows you which station(s) in your location will screen the game...

https://www.premierleague.com/broadcast-schedules
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 23, 2023, 07:51:30 PM
So… who’s watching it tonight?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 23, 2023, 07:55:23 PM
So… who’s watching it tonight?
I'll fall asleep so no.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 23, 2023, 07:58:40 PM
Too late for me on a school night
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 23, 2023, 08:04:07 PM
So… who’s watching it tonight?

I'll probably follow some of it on H&V so I'll be expecting timely updates from those watching. :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2023, 08:14:25 PM
I am watching.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 23, 2023, 08:18:46 PM
Me too. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2023, 08:20:05 PM
Anyone who doesn't = not a proper fan.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 08:25:00 PM
Correct. Better fans will be watching for sure. It's on at 7pm over here. I'll be putting the Brentford vs Fulham game on in a bit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on July 23, 2023, 08:29:09 PM
I’ll record it and watch it in the morning. We’re having work done on the house so restricted in which rooms we can go in so gives me a good excuse to sit and watch telly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 23, 2023, 08:29:48 PM
I'm not watching it. I'm a fairweather, part-time, gloryhunting apology for a fan.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 23, 2023, 08:30:34 PM
Anybody trying to watch it in the morning without knowing the score should stand a better chance than Terry and Bob for Bulgaria v England.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2023, 08:31:01 PM
You all need ex-communicating*




* I reckon I'll doze off before half time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 23, 2023, 08:34:57 PM
Anyone who doesn't = not a proper fan.

A proper fan would be there. Unfurling a banner for the locals "Whose your next president ?  Biden or the orange c**t ? "
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 08:36:05 PM
I'll keep everyone updated on the score. Might get  bit tedious after our 7th goes in after 35 minutes, but I am willing to sacrifice for you lot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: WassallVillain on July 23, 2023, 08:49:31 PM
Anyone who doesn't = not a proper fan.
40 years ST holder here. Who are we playing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
There's about 10 people inside the stadium right now for the first game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 23, 2023, 08:50:07 PM
Anyone who doesn't = not a proper fan.
If you aren't there in person you are just on the bandwagon
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mellin on July 23, 2023, 08:54:48 PM
Sure the place will run fine whilst I watch this in the office during a night shift. Getting some cans in might be pushing it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 23, 2023, 09:02:02 PM
As well as being shown live, it's going out twice more on Sky tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2023, 09:24:16 PM
Anyone who doesn't = not a proper fan.
If you aren't there in person you are just on the bandwagon

I am such a super fan I am at the match, simultaneously streaming it on my phone

Wait till I start SCORCHIOing the goals before they happen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 23, 2023, 09:25:00 PM
I’m going to stay up and watch it, then turn it off and go to bed 5 mins before full time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 23, 2023, 09:31:23 PM
down the pub first ,  gets rid of the nerves and then will be watching in my full kit .
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 23, 2023, 09:33:40 PM
I'm not watching it. I'm a fairweather, part-time, gloryhunting apology for a fan.
same.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 23, 2023, 09:56:34 PM
I’m going to stay up and watch it, then turn it off and go to bed 5 mins before full time.
sensible beat the traffic
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 23, 2023, 09:57:28 PM
As well as being shown live, it's going out twice more on Sky tomorrow.
proper fans will take A/L to watch both re-runs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2023, 10:38:27 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCStatto/status/1683185933724663808/video/1
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 10:39:49 PM
Nice shot of the Villa boys arriving. Big and little Emi, Pau, Diaby and Kamara. Looking forward to see how we shape up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 10:40:28 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCStatto/status/1683185933724663808/video/1

I wish I could have gone.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 23, 2023, 10:43:00 PM
You’d think Tom Hanks will be there in Philadelphia, right?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 10:47:05 PM
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1683231186045358085?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 23, 2023, 10:48:03 PM
Diaby there at the end
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:00:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:01:22 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wMM6MWYAAa64e?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 23, 2023, 11:01:52 PM
Big chance for Bidace.

I see Sanson has vanished again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2023, 11:02:25 PM
No new signings starting, so that's a waste of money then.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 23, 2023, 11:03:05 PM
Big chance for Bidace.

I see Sanson has vanished again.

He’s still cleaning that plate.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:03:36 PM
Big chance for Bidace.

I see Sanson has vanished again.

I reckon he might have a move lined up very soon and has either gone home or is sitting this out to avoid injury
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 23, 2023, 11:04:04 PM
Twitter rumours saying sansom has left the training camp to join up with a French club….not in tonight’s squad
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 23, 2023, 11:04:26 PM
No Coutinho?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 23, 2023, 11:05:22 PM
Twitter rumours saying sansom has left the training camp to join up with a French club….not in tonight’s squad

Twitter rumours are for gullible bell-ends.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 23, 2023, 11:08:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)

Thanks .
This won't be the line up against Newcastle August  12th but it's a strong side.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 23, 2023, 11:08:44 PM
Will it be the graphic though? Or will they spend more than 3 minutes on it?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 23, 2023, 11:08:56 PM
Twitter rumours saying sansom has left the training camp to join up with a French club….not in tonight’s squad

Twitter rumours are for gullible bell-ends.
Oh. Sorry
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 23, 2023, 11:09:33 PM
That font is shocking.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 23, 2023, 11:11:41 PM
Twitter rumours saying sansom has left the training camp to join up with a French club….not in tonight’s squad

Twitter rumours are for gullible bell-ends.
Oh. Sorry

I didn't mean you. Just those in general.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 23, 2023, 11:17:30 PM
No new signings starting, so that's a waste of money then.
Yup, Nearly £100M gone down the drain.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 23, 2023, 11:17:36 PM
That's pretty much our starting line up from the end of the season, injuries excepted.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:20:40 PM
That font is shocking.

You are being kind
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:21:10 PM
No Coutinho?

I don’t think he’s started to practice on the pitch yet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 23, 2023, 11:21:58 PM
Staying up as late as I can manage , Unai just been on, talked mostly about Diabi , Robbie Earle is a twat interviewed him with slow questions as though he doesn't understand English
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 23, 2023, 11:23:33 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 23, 2023, 11:24:29 PM
I never had a problem streaming anything with BT and now I’ve gone to Virgin it looks like I’ll be watching with two minute freezes again. Might go to bed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: john e on July 23, 2023, 11:24:56 PM
No Coutinho?

I don’t think he’s started to practice on the pitch yet.

They call it grass now all the moderndayers

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:25:37 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?

There is only one keeper on the bench
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nordenvillain on July 23, 2023, 11:27:48 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?
So have Newcastle
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 23, 2023, 11:28:22 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?

There is only one keeper on the bench

Marschal is a keeper. Played at the weekend, didn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:29:46 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?

There is only one keeper on the bench

Marschal is a keeper. Played at the weekend, didn't he?

Yep. We have one keeper on the bench.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 23, 2023, 11:30:11 PM
Targett and Dummett are two of the weakest defenders . I expect Villa to exploit them.
3-1 or 4-2 Villa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 23, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Oh I see you don’t count Olsen as a proper keeper.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 23, 2023, 11:30:49 PM
2 keepers on the bench, will he ever learn?

There is only one keeper on the bench

Marschal is a keeper. Played at the weekend, didn't he?

Yep. We have one keeper on the bench.

Sorry, yeah, I got it after I posted.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 23, 2023, 11:31:20 PM
Targett and Dummett are two of the weakest defenders . I expect Villa to exploit them.
3-1 or 4-2 Villa.

Do we need to target Targett?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 23, 2023, 11:33:09 PM
No away kit reveal tonight either. Wonder why it's taking so long.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AGRIPPA on July 23, 2023, 11:35:46 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 23, 2023, 11:36:05 PM
Mentioned the other day but from the highlights I saw Saudi Utd looked very good, fluid and full of confidence against the club formally know as Rangers. Tonali looks like he might be a great signing for them.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 23, 2023, 11:36:08 PM
The games so far in this tournament have been quite competitive above and beyond what you would expect at this stage of the season.

Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2023, 11:36:57 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA

Yes. If it doesn't get taken down.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AGRIPPA on July 23, 2023, 11:40:49 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA

Yes. If it doesn't get taken down.

Cheers!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 23, 2023, 11:41:25 PM
What’s up with Bailey?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 23, 2023, 11:42:10 PM
Bailey's resting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:47:07 PM
What’s up with Bailey?

He only finished laying for Jamaica last week
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 23, 2023, 11:48:10 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA

Yes. If it doesn't get taken down.

So it's not officially on YouTube then? It wouldn't get taken down if they had permission to show it surely. Unless it's some random streamer doing it. Is it an official stream?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 23, 2023, 11:48:29 PM
What’s up with Bailey?

He only finished laying for Jamaica last week

I didn't know that was a national sport.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 23, 2023, 11:51:57 PM
What’s up with Bailey?

He only finished laying for Jamaica last week

I didn't know that was a national sport.

It’s for the weed farms. Or something to do with rum. One of those two things. You have to lay something
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 23, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA

Yes. If it doesn't get taken down.

So it's not officially on YouTube then? It wouldn't get taken down if they had permission to show it surely. Unless it's some random streamer doing it. Is it an official stream?

As it's on Sky, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 23, 2023, 11:55:20 PM
I'm watching

Disappointed no Coutiniho
Expect to see Pau and Tielemans at some point

Just please no significant injuries
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 23, 2023, 11:56:26 PM
Sure I saw something earlier about the game being on YouTube…is that right?? TIA

Yes. If it doesn't get taken down.

So it's not officially on YouTube then? It wouldn't get taken down if they had permission to show it surely. Unless it's some random streamer doing it. Is it an official stream?

As it's on Sky, I doubt it.
Ah.

Can anyone hook me up with a small river please? 😁
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 23, 2023, 11:58:20 PM
BTW  I think the kit looks fantastic
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: django on July 23, 2023, 11:58:58 PM
Sorry deleted the link
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:00:09 AM
Castore overload
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on July 24, 2023, 12:00:55 AM
BTW  I think the kit looks fantastic

Funny, I think it looks like rubbish. Badge is atrocious.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: usav on July 24, 2023, 12:02:35 AM
Why no Coutinho on the bench?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 24, 2023, 12:02:48 AM
I'm now wondering if I should get out of bed and at least watch the first half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 12:03:04 AM
BTW  I think the kit looks fantastic

Funny, I think it looks like rubbish. Badge is atrocious.

Shouldn't you declare an interest?!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villa Lew on July 24, 2023, 12:03:38 AM
Don't understand, why Tielemans isn't starting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:04:13 AM
The Matty Cash bald spot grows ever larger.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:05:12 AM
Why no Coutinho on the bench?

Hasn’t practiced on the pitch/grass yet following his injury. Close apparently. Probably next game
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:05:26 AM
The Matty Cash bald spot grows ever larger.

Really bad comb over in his future
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 12:05:38 AM
Am I tripping or did I see Neil Cutler walk out with the Newcastle staff?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 12:05:44 AM
BTW  I think the kit looks fantastic

It looks much better in the flesh, I reckon, yes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:06:17 AM
Come on you Villa boys!
(https://i.ibb.co/xS97qBn/PXL-20230723-230400346-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/svxV9NT)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:07:29 AM
The move to nearly get McGinn in was superb football. Philogene has looked lively so far.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:07:50 AM
Well in Cash, good tackle
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
SCORCHIOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:08:34 AM
Not exactly cagey from either side
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:08:59 AM
Ollie 1-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:08:59 AM
SCORCHIOOOOOOOOOO
FFS! ;-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:09:12 AM
Superb goal! Boooom!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:09:23 AM
Buendia has definitely bulked up, he’d have been on the ground last season on that challenge.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:09:35 AM
Great play for the goal, opened them up really well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:09:50 AM
Get in Ollie good work Buendia
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:09:51 AM
Good strength there Emi, considering he's often a little lightweight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 12:10:07 AM
Well played by Buendia, great run.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:10:12 AM
Good work from Buendia to set up Ollie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 12:10:13 AM
Quality move.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:10:19 AM
Move started by Emi to little Emi to Ollie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 12:10:24 AM
Lovely!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on July 24, 2023, 12:10:45 AM
BTW  I think the kit looks fantastic

Funny, I think it looks like rubbish. Badge is atrocious.

Shouldn't you declare an interest?!

Huh? I have no interest.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:10:46 AM
Buendia has definitely bulked up, he’d have been on the ground last season on that challenge.

Yep, good sign if he willing and able to ride challenges like that, will make him far more effective.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: luke95 on July 24, 2023, 12:10:59 AM
Looks as thought there is quite a big Villa following there .
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villa Lew on July 24, 2023, 12:11:12 AM
Great stuff from Emi.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 12:11:43 AM
Well I’ve seen enough to suggest we are winning the league and Newcastle will do well to stop up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: KevinGage on July 24, 2023, 12:11:53 AM
Good strength there Emi, considering he's often a little lightweight.

Yes. Thought it was McGinn bombing through there for a moment.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:12:31 AM
gooaall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:12:44 AM
He’s the man!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:12:50 AM
Absolutely ripping em apart 2-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villa Lew on July 24, 2023, 12:12:58 AM
Tremendous Emi
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:13:13 AM
2-0!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:13:24 AM
Buendia! Yes!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:13:36 AM
Get in!! Must say we look very lively.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 12:13:40 AM
Tearing them a new one here.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2023, 12:13:44 AM
Fuck me we are going to win the league.

Emi B looks proper beefed up
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 12:13:50 AM
2-0!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:13:54 AM
Brilliant from McGinn an Doug in the build up for that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hillbilly on July 24, 2023, 12:14:07 AM
Blimey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: django on July 24, 2023, 12:14:13 AM
Easy
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 12:14:14 AM
Save it for in 3 weeks lads
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:14:19 AM
Fucking hell. The balls out from the two centre halves have been ultra progressive. Really good to see. Back to front in no time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:15:07 AM
nearly 3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 24, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
How much fun is this ?!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 12:15:39 AM
Really nice finish, that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:15:59 AM
buendia  possesed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:16:02 AM
Christ Buendia looks strong.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: trinityoap on July 24, 2023, 12:16:08 AM
Agree with Dogtanian,Buendia looks stronger..Well made/taken goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:16:21 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:16:44 AM
Newcastle midfield is too high, we're in acres of space every time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:17:01 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

2-3 likely starters missing but still very strong.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:17:12 AM
Is Buendia on drugs?!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 12:17:13 AM
Who’s this new number 10 we’ve signed?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:17:17 AM
I am maintaining a default status of 'it's only a pre-season game in the US do not get carried away.'
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hillbilly on July 24, 2023, 12:17:23 AM
And Dougie hasn't even got going yet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 12:17:27 AM
Absolutely battering them here.

Its like watching men vs boys.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:17:50 AM
close again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:17:53 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

2-3 likely starters missing but still very strong.

Excellent, just getting my excitement levels set at the correct levels.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2023, 12:18:02 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

Probably about six regular starters in there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 12:18:17 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

2-3 likely starters missing but still very strong.

Jolinton, Wilson and Botman maybe?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 12:18:20 AM
I can confirm the YT feed has been taken down.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:18:44 AM
cash trying a Lowton
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:18:46 AM
Trying to ride my Peloton while watching us. Hoping to do this all season. Going mental when we score affects my output positively.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:18:53 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

2-3 likely starters missing but still very strong.

Jolinton, Wilson and Botman maybe?

Pope still out too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:19:02 AM
Close from Philo
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 12:19:06 AM
Buendia looks really good here. Hopefully this season he will explode and really reach his potential.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:19:22 AM
I am maintaining a default status of 'it's only a pre-season game in the US do not get carried away.'

True but we're playing some fantastic football and we're suckering them with their high press.

Philogene is playing really well, I reckon he might push his way into the mix if he carries on, given he's a 'free' pick for europe.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:19:46 AM
Absolutely smashing them, should be 4-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:20:04 AM
lovely goal Buendia . Should have been 3 there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:20:11 AM
We're going to win by a touchdown the way this is going
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:20:28 AM
Loads of Newcastle fans just gone to bed.  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:20:43 AM
What's the Newcastle line up like? How close to a Prem starting 11 are they?

2-3 likely starters missing but still very strong.

Jolinton, Wilson and Botman maybe?

Wilson being the question mark. Obviously Pope as well but he's injured. Barnes maybe but he's about as new to them as Diaby is for us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:21:22 AM
Shouldn't read much into less than 20 minutes of pre-season, but... Bidace isn't one I thought of being involved in the conversation. Didn't think he excelled at Cardiff, but he has looked handy here.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:21:45 AM
Watkins goal https://twitter.com/vartatico/status/1683254312334499841

Buendia goal https://twitter.com/vartatico/status/1683254523886706689
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:21:46 AM
I am maintaining a default status of 'it's only a pre-season game in the US do not get carried away.'

True but we're playing some fantastic football and we're suckering them with their high press.
You are right. Fuck it! GET THE FUCK IN! HAVE THAT YOU BARCODES!

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2023, 12:21:53 AM
I'm very impressed by JPB. Looks great. He reminds me a lot of Eze at Palace.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:21:53 AM
Wilson being the question mark. Obviously Pope as well but he's injured. Barnes maybe but he's about as new to them as Diaby is for us.

Barnes is on the bench, has he even trained with them? Are they hard up for players?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 12:22:00 AM
We're going to win by a touchdown the way this is going

Darn tootin' right we are.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:22:21 AM
We look so well coached now
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:23:50 AM
Winner of this gets the Champions League place, only fair.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2023, 12:24:23 AM
Wilson being the question mark. Obviously Pope as well but he's injured. Barnes maybe but he's about as new to them as Diaby is for us.

Barnes is on the bench, has he even trained with them? Are they hard up for players?
Eddie Howe said he hadn't trained with them. Seems odd to include him really.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 12:24:35 AM
We look so well coached now

It’s notable how machine-like the team movement is - like everyone knows what to do in any given situation. How novel.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:24:40 AM
doing alright so far 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:25:16 AM
Clear foul on Kamara
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 12:25:18 AM
Just wanted to say I really love Unai so much.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 24, 2023, 12:25:35 AM
The commentator on the stream I'm watching is hawking Watkins off to other clubs. Just describe the match you doughnut.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:26:10 AM
We look so well coached now

It’s notable how machine-like the team movement is - like everyone knows what to do in any given situation. How novel.

So you’re saying we don’t just roll up our socks or look for that bit of magic?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:26:39 AM
Just wanted to say I really love Unai so much.

Get in line son.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: taylorsworkrate on July 24, 2023, 12:26:46 AM
Buendia has been excellent
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2023, 12:26:57 AM
I don't know who the American commentator is but it's so refreshing to hear someone who doesn't have any bias. Just straightforward comment on what he sees.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:27:03 AM
What's this not scoring for a while shit? Sort it out Unai ffs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:27:15 AM
I know it’s only 1 game but, we look a yard or two quicker than the Mags. We obviously like playing in 86F heat and we’re not going to get that in Newcastle in 3 weeks time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:27:29 AM
Wilson being the question mark. Obviously Pope as well but he's injured. Barnes maybe but he's about as new to them as Diaby is for us.

Barnes is on the bench, has he even trained with them? Are they hard up for players?
Eddie Howe said he hadn't trained with them. Seems odd to include him really.
Novice management
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 24, 2023, 12:27:38 AM
Hehe, we are going to annoy a lot of other teams/fans next season. A lot. And isn't it wonderful. Sucker them in then jab with the rapier thrust.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:27:42 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 12:28:55 AM


So you’re saying we don’t just roll up our socks or look for that bit of magic?

It’s a new thing, I hear
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:29:16 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.

As we're 2-0 up i'd hope we get all 3.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:29:33 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.

Buendia's been lurking on here, seen all the posts trying to ship him out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:29:38 AM
ffs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:29:41 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.
Unai, Monchi and Catweazel are totally focussed. You'd think it is the FA cup final 2024.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:30:04 AM
Balls
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 24, 2023, 12:30:08 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.

Newcastle aren't exactly taking it easy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:30:12 AM
just onside
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:30:37 AM
Fuck off!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:30:51 AM
Amateurish from Konsa there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:31:12 AM
high line is scary without VAR
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:31:12 AM
Looked miles off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:31:15 AM
You can see by the goal celebrations we’re treating this as more than just a friendly. We look like we are out to prove a point.

Newcastle aren't exactly taking it easy.

I didn’t say they were!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 12:32:11 AM
Suspect with VAR that would have been ruled out but we are playing a very high line
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:32:13 AM
Looked miles off.

I think Isak was but the guy who scored was ok.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:33:15 AM
Isak was off the other guy ok
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 24, 2023, 12:33:20 AM
Bastards
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:33:28 AM
Looked marginal but, even though it’s gone against us on this occasion, isn’t it great not to have VAR. The game just flows so much better.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:33:46 AM
Their fluke https://twitter.com/vartatico/status/1683258552272527365
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:34:09 AM
good effort bidance
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:34:42 AM
Nice little move. JPB looks very good
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:35:21 AM
Nice little move. JPB looks very good

Yup, I’m enjoying the young Philogene’s efforts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:35:37 AM
Philogene looks great
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 24, 2023, 12:36:01 AM
Philogene playing really well, it's a shame that a couple of passes out to him have been wayward when he's been in acres of space.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:37:02 AM
Our cat is well pissed-off that its usual sleep pattern on the settee is being disrupted. It's fucked off out in disgust.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:37:38 AM
Just imagine what it's going to be like when we have Diaby in all that space instead.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:37:50 AM
Looking forward to seeing Cam have run out against this defence
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:38:37 AM
VAR would have chalked off their goal after 5 mins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:39:17 AM
Buendia has looked very good tonight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
Our defence looks so comfortable now with the ball under pressure. For too long that always ended up with our defending on ice impression.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:39:57 AM
If only Watkins could control a ball, he’d have had a hat trick by now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:41:08 AM
Bit sloppy out of the back pushing us back again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 12:42:08 AM
A couple of passes from Buendia to Watkins have been close but not quite slipping him in on goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:43:29 AM
A couple of passes from Buendia to Watkins have been close but not quite slipping him in on goal.

Diaby would have got on to those. That’s going to be fun
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:44:06 AM
Great defending Konsa
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:44:18 AM
Cash you silly boy
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:44:56 AM
Douglas Luiz is just a superb footballer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:45:03 AM
Cash liability there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:45:31 AM
Toon midfielders now closing the gap
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:45:53 AM
If we don't score soon i'm going to be sending a very sternly worded letter to Mr Emery.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:46:06 AM
Cash liability there.

To give Cash a little bit of an excuse that's about the first time they've managed to trap us where we didn't have an obvious out ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:47:35 AM
4 mins? It’s like the World cup.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:48:03 AM
Buendia starting to look like our record signing now he isn't
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:48:10 AM
2   2 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:48:11 AM
2-2
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:48:24 AM
Hope we get to see Torres and Tielemans second half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:48:41 AM
Fucking hell
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:48:43 AM
kamara doing a leicester
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:48:45 AM
Cash error
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:49:01 AM
Stupidly caught in possession
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:49:18 AM
Cash error

Kamara lost possession
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:49:23 AM
FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:49:47 AM
Awful from Kamara.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:49:51 AM
Unacceptable. looks like a season fighting relegation is ahead.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 24, 2023, 12:50:00 AM
What on Earth kind of defending was that?!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:50:21 AM
Kamara silly boy
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 12:50:28 AM
emery out
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:50:30 AM
Cash error
Kamara lost possession
But Cash didn’t cover
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:51:11 AM
Didn't intend to watch, but couldn't turn off. Few silly bits at the back, but we've played some really good stuff.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bobby Boy on July 24, 2023, 12:51:24 AM
For the vast majority of this half we have been fantastic, calm in possession and composed but a couple of errors have killed us.

Momentum has shifted but we'll keep playing. Just got to be careful of over-playing sometimes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 12:51:38 AM
We’ve been the better side done in by two errors.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 24, 2023, 12:51:50 AM
Martinez's throw wasn't much cop and Cash didn't give Kamara much chance.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: taylorsworkrate on July 24, 2023, 12:52:02 AM
The high line is going to cause heart palpitations throughout the season!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:52:23 AM
I'm fine with this, get the sloppy /tired looking errors out of the system now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 12:52:29 AM
Circus music needed for this one https://twitter.com/footballsm41/status/1683263144876032001
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:53:04 AM
Eddie Howes tits are upsetting me
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:53:10 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 24, 2023, 12:53:17 AM
Still playing some fantastic football. So well drilled. It's great to watch.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 12:53:21 AM
Didn't intend to watch, but couldn't turn off. Few silly bits at the back, but we've played some really good stuff.

We've made Newcastle look very ordinary. Sloppiness has let us down but Dougie and Buendia have been a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:53:44 AM
I'm not sure at what point they have got to grips with our midfield?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 12:53:50 AM
Martinez's throw wasn't much cop and Cash didn't give Kamara much chance.

Didn't have much choice though because the ref let Isak stand very close to him, a better standard of ref would've made him move away.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 12:53:56 AM
Kamara had already got away with one earlier on. Good response from Newcastle though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:53:59 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 12:54:27 AM
Newcastle literally didn’t know what to do most of that half except to hit it over the top and try and exploit the high line.

We’ve gifted em two goals when they got physical and dispossessed us too easily because we started dwelling too much. A bit of complacency and overconfidence perhaps, but now is the time to change that mindset.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 24, 2023, 12:54:56 AM
The ref's letting a few challenges go. The tackle on Bouba before their equaliser would most likely have been penalised in the Prem, but tbf, we've gotaway with a few too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 12:55:24 AM
Eddie Howe has a really annoying face.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 12:55:44 AM
The old 2 goal lead come back to haunt us
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:56:07 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 12:56:39 AM
Newcastle seem all blood and thunder still.

Diaby is going to be interesting, as we'll give ourselves an extra 5-10 yards of space further up the pitch. Our transition play is brilliant, pop-pop pass and we've broken their lines. That electric pace on the long diagonal will be an extra dimension.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: murgsy on July 24, 2023, 12:57:41 AM
We are miles better than we were 12 months ago. Really good to watch. Ming's passing had been superb. Buendia sharper and more confident. Not sure the full backs are up to scratch and Konsa still looking most likely to maker way for Pau... JPB very lively
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 24, 2023, 12:59:35 AM
All of the games so far are oddly high scoring.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 12:59:36 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Actually,  bay windows is not the term, we have French windows.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:59:39 AM
I might checkout Cleveland Clinic tomorrow. It sounds nice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:00:13 AM
Last season we made these mistakes and learned to cut them out. Defensively we were superb from Feb on. We are just getting back into things. We are going to fine when the season gets going. Going forward we already look excellent
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:00:15 AM
I might checkout Cleveland Clinic tomorrow. It sounds nice.
I might have a Bud Light.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:00:20 AM
Fcukin shit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 24, 2023, 01:00:23 AM
In days of yore, lots of posters would be saying the result doesn't matter, it's all about miles in legs and getting the fitness levels up and they'd be better off running up the Clent/Malvern/Brecon Beacon.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:00:28 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Actually,  bay windows is not the term, we have French windows.
That’s more posher!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 24, 2023, 01:01:01 AM
Half time 2-2
From the outset We looked fantastic in the way okay the game, and every time we went forward, it looked like Villa would score.
Philogene has been great in his offensive play.
In fact the midfield's and team's overall quality of play and possession has been a joy to watch, and it's terrific to see the football being played.
Kamara and Cash, in particular, appear to struggle with football.
Both have struggled to see the options at times and Kamara has been caught in possesion including his fault for the goal



Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 01:03:53 AM
Stephen Warnock is in love with us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:03:56 AM
Doug played most of the Walsall game so I wonder if he gets changed up for Tielemans at HT.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SamTheMouse on July 24, 2023, 01:04:18 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Actually,  bay windows is not the term, we have French windows.

Well, obviously. Ours windows are all French too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:04:42 AM
9 years ago today we were in the US playing Dallas.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:06:16 AM
Looking at the replays, Kamara, Cash, Konsa and Digne all managed to conspire to allow them to equalise. Very irritating.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:06:33 AM
9 years ago today we were in the US playing Dallas.

Cliff Barnes was on the bench for them.  Harvey Barnes tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:07:29 AM
Olsen on, good night all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:07:36 AM
Game over. Olsen on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2023, 01:07:46 AM
Olsen on. Might as well go to bed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 24, 2023, 01:08:16 AM
9 years ago today we were in the US playing Dallas.

Did Debbie do comms?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2023, 01:08:25 AM
Claire Balding coming on for them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:08:39 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Actually,  bay windows is not the term, we have French windows.

Well, obviously. Ours windows are all French too.
I was waiting for that one! Nos portes-fenêtres sont bien de fabrication française...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 01:09:21 AM
Olsen on. Night all.

(Kidding).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:09:32 AM
Response to Olsen coming on

(https://media.tenor.com/D_gGTvKrxv0AAAAM/nope-not.gif)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 24, 2023, 01:09:44 AM
Olsen on I'm off to bed!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:09:54 AM
gooAALL
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:10:01 AM
Here we go 3-2 Emi
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:10:25 AM
Emiiiiiiiiiii
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 01:10:37 AM
3-2!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:10:39 AM
Goooooool
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:11:02 AM
didnt realise Kellyman was on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:11:18 AM
3-1!

Are you sure?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:11:30 AM
Brilliant football again, pass to Philogene was great, vcut back was perfect and Kellyman shot was excellent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:11:43 AM
Kellyman  with superbly weighted shot there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:12:04 AM
3-1!

Are you sure?
He's VAR'ed their 2nd. Good work.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 01:12:14 AM
Brilliant football again, pass to Philogene was great, vcut back was perfect and Kellyman shot was excellent.

Credit to Buendia for continuing his run too
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 24, 2023, 01:12:19 AM
Buendia with the brace.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 01:12:29 AM
Liquid football.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:12:40 AM
https://twitter.com/footballsm41/status/1683268617549275136
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:12:58 AM
Brilliant football again, pass to Philogene was great, vcut back was perfect and Kellyman shot was excellent.

Credit to Buendia for continuing his run too

indeed, think it was his pass that started it as well, he's had a great game today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:13:44 AM
We will need to score at least one more to win this as Olsen’s in goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 24, 2023, 01:13:53 AM
Sexy sexy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:13:58 AM
Buendia with the brace.

Makes his performance even more impressive as he's wearing one of those.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:14:38 AM
We’ve scored proper goals. Not toss ones from mistakes
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:14:50 AM
Olsen dominant in the air
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: charlatan on July 24, 2023, 01:16:16 AM
Got the bay windows open. Someone next door is up late smoking weed. Never had that before. It is wafting in and annoying me.
You live in a house with a bay window, how posh is that?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:16:29 AM
Buendia with the brace.

Makes his performance even more impressive as he's wearing one of those.


(https://i.ibb.co/3r729pM/IMG-7914.png) (https://ibb.co/3r729pM)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:16:57 AM
3  3 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 01:17:18 AM
Sexy sexy.

Yes mate?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:17:20 AM
FFS 3-3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:17:53 AM
Good save but a nice juicy rebound.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 24, 2023, 01:18:00 AM
Buendia with the brace.

Makes his performance even more impressive as he's wearing one of those.


(https://i.ibb.co/3r729pM/IMG-7914.png) (https://ibb.co/3r729pM)


That's bracist.

Now they've equalised.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:18:15 AM
Olsen needs to do better, can't push it straight to their best finisher.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 01:18:16 AM
Sigh. Olsen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:18:31 AM
FFS Olsen giving it away again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2023, 01:18:33 AM
Carlos all over the place for the goal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:18:45 AM
Pau nowhere for the rebound. Poor. ;-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:18:49 AM
Has Olsen got pictures of someone?  Can nobody see he’s Fcukin dreadful?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bobby Boy on July 24, 2023, 01:18:55 AM
Another soft goal given away. If you are going to play a high line you can't give a player as long as he wants to play a ball through to the forward as we did there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 01:19:10 AM
Neither centre half covered themselves in glory there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 01:19:19 AM
Olsen with the assist.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 01:19:19 AM
It fell nicely for Wilson. Torres was a bit in no-man’s-land
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:19:24 AM
olsen did a olsen
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:19:49 AM
Torres is dreadful.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:19:49 AM
Olsen is fucking dire.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 01:20:17 AM
Fuck me Olsen. Absolute dog dirt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:20:31 AM
We got lucky there. That was a penalty to them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gareth on July 24, 2023, 01:20:42 AM
Olsens kicking is no less a liability as it ever was
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:20:44 AM
Torres is dreadful.
Haha!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 01:20:54 AM
That pass out, dismal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 24, 2023, 01:20:59 AM
Olsen man, LOL
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:21:10 AM
chance for emi hatrick
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 24, 2023, 01:21:29 AM
Carlos AND Torres at fault
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:21:31 AM
Ooooh Buendia just misses out on his third
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:22:31 AM
I’m worried about the defence.  Should I be?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:22:41 AM
Noel is causing problems
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:22:47 AM
It’s inevitable we will make some errors as players get used to playing with each other in different formations and systems. But my fucking Lord, the keeper is killing us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:23:05 AM
3-3 https://twitter.com/footballsm41/status/1683270234122199042
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:23:07 AM
should been 4
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 24, 2023, 01:23:14 AM
I’m worried about the defence.  Should I be?

First time they've ever set foot on the pitch together. All good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:23:33 AM
FFS how have we not scored there?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:24:35 AM
I’m worried about the defence.  Should I be?

Not really, this is a new pairing who've probably trained together a handful of times.

Unlucky Kellyman, he looks a great player.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:24:51 AM
Tielemans, Cam, Aaron, and Seb Revan on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:25:01 AM
C’mon Cam!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 24, 2023, 01:25:02 AM
I’m worried about the defence.  Should I be?

No.

A) Mings and Konsa have had 9 months more practice
B) it’s unlikely they will be playing with Olsen ina ‘real’ match 😂
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:25:02 AM
I’m worried about the defence.  Should I be?
It's a pre-season game. Torres has been with us for ten minutes. Carlos has been injured for ten years.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2023, 01:25:11 AM
17? He's going to be 12 feet tall when he's fully grown.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 01:25:24 AM
For all the critique of Olsen - and there’s plenty - he is clearly, desperately uncomfortable playing out from the back which is a bit of a problem.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 24, 2023, 01:25:35 AM
Is the commentary Newcastle TV on Sky
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:25:57 AM
I’m surprised Doug has played this much
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 24, 2023, 01:26:07 AM
For all the critique of Olsen - and there’s plenty - he is clearly, desperately uncomfortable playing out from the back which is a bit of a problem.

Simply cannot see any way he's with us by the start of the season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:26:32 AM
Olsen makes Bosnich look like Messi when the ball is at his feet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 01:26:43 AM
For all the critique of Olsen - and there’s plenty - he is clearly, desperately uncomfortable playing out from the back which is a bit of a problem.

I can’t believe he’s still here, that’s such a fundamental problem with football.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:26:59 AM
Wilson has such a punchable face, whiny prick.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:27:14 AM
Bloody hell that wasn’t a practiced routine was it?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 24, 2023, 01:27:21 AM
As soon as we're able to get another suitable keeper through the door he's instantly gone, surely.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:27:55 AM
how good is dougie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:28:27 AM
For all the critique of Olsen - and there’s plenty - he is clearly, desperately uncomfortable playing out from the back which is a bit of a problem.

Simply cannot see any way he's with us by the start of the season.

I’d be blown away if he is. A complete liability and the defenders are massively affected by it. They get no confidence from him being back there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:29:05 AM
how good is dougie

He just makes it look so easy, rolls-royce player.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 24, 2023, 01:29:22 AM
how good is dougie

Was about to say this, you can see how much he's come on, glides with the ball. Elite lever player now - joy to watch
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:33:56 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
It's a right scrapple on the pitch. There is not much at stake though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:33:59 AM
is countinho injured again?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on July 24, 2023, 01:34:39 AM
We don't need this Diaby bloke.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:35:01 AM
is countinho injured again?

Nope, just not quite ready for today, might be available for the next game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:35:41 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
It's a right scrapple on the pitch.

Need some mature heads out there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:36:23 AM
is countinho injured again?

No need to call him names.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:37:29 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
It's a right scrapple on the pitch.

Need some mature heads out there.

It’s a friendly mate. It’s going to be a mix of all sorts. We’ve played really well and made some silly errors at the back. Nothing to worry about
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:38:29 AM
is countinho injured again?

Nope, just not quite ready for today, might be available for the next game.

cheers mate
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 01:38:43 AM
It may be a friendly, but they all look like they've got a stake in this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:38:46 AM
I know it's a friendly but really, Newcastle were in the Championship not long ago and we can't even beat them? A long dark winter awaits.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:39:53 AM
It may be a friendly, but they all look like they've got a stake in this.
I added that earlier. Ahem.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:39:54 AM
I know it's a friendly but really, Newcastle were in the Championship not long ago and we can't even beat them? A long dark winter awaits.

When you put it like that…Alan Hansen was right about us. A return to the dark days beckons.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:39:56 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
It's a right scrapple on the pitch.

Need some mature heads out there.

It’s a friendly mate. It’s going to be a mix of all sorts. We’ve played really well and made some silly errors at the back. Nothing to worry about

I was just continuing the cheese puns.  Emmental you.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:40:06 AM
whys Tom Hanks not there , it is Philidelphia
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:40:36 AM
These are the first rocky steps of the season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 01:42:08 AM
It may be a friendly, but they all look like they've got a stake in this.
I added that earlier. Ahem.

Désolé.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:42:14 AM
These killer slice open their defence passes are not working lads.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:42:18 AM
Villa is a good clubber.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:42:33 AM
It's time for Camembert Archer to shine
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 01:42:51 AM
It’s just naturally scrappy now, as always with so many changes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:43:29 AM
The atmosphere in Philadelphia is a bit cheesy.
It's a right scrapple on the pitch.

Need some mature heads out there.

It’s a friendly mate. It’s going to be a mix of all sorts. We’ve played really well and made some silly errors at the back. Nothing to worry about

I was just continuing the cheese puns.  Emmental you.

Oh FFS. I Gouda go.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:44:55 AM
Tielemans was a very good signing.  Did he get many reds at Leicester?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:45:00 AM
Tielemans looks calm too
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:46:43 AM
You utter amateurs! You are supposed to do Philly puns not generic cheese puns. They announced it on the PA.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:47:14 AM
carlos thinks hes the roberto one
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2023, 01:47:26 AM
For all the critique of Olsen - and there’s plenty - he is clearly, desperately uncomfortable playing out from the back which is a bit of a problem.

Simply cannot see any way he's with us by the start of the season.

I’d be blown away if he is. A complete liability and the defenders are massively affected by it. They get no confidence from him being back there.
He's just not cut out for playing out from the back. I'd be amazed if the club aren't currently scouring Europe for Emi's new understudy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 24, 2023, 01:47:51 AM
You utter amateurs! You are supposed to do Philly puns not generic cheese puns. They announced it on the PA.

They're total bells.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Left Side on July 24, 2023, 01:48:23 AM
Its all Villa right now
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:48:31 AM
The good thing out of all of this is our squad isn’t a lot different to Newcastle in terms of quality. No reason both clubs can’t be top 6
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 24, 2023, 01:49:05 AM
You utter amateurs! You are supposed to do Philly puns not generic cheese puns. They announced it on the PA.

They're total bells.

Rocky ground there!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:49:53 AM
Is Adrienne still in goal these days?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hillbilly on July 24, 2023, 01:49:58 AM
Newcastle in this half are a big erm 'physical' side. Hopefully prem referees won't be as lenient.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 24, 2023, 01:50:20 AM
You utter amateurs! You are supposed to do Philly puns not generic cheese puns. They announced it on the PA.

Too right, talk about taking a liberty.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:50:22 AM
olsen save   :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:50:26 AM
No reason both clubs can’t be top 6
No reason* we can't be top six and the Barcodes implode and finish 11th.

*It would definitely be hilarious.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Left Side on July 24, 2023, 01:50:36 AM
I wouldn't want to be trading places with Newcastle.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:50:49 AM
Good save Olsen. Nearly dropped it mind
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:52:06 AM
Our entire front line now is kids
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:52:22 AM
A giant clothes peg would be better in goals than Olsen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:54:04 AM
Diego Carlos just destroyed one of their players
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 24, 2023, 01:54:38 AM
Can we bring Dibu back on for the penalty shootout?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 24, 2023, 01:54:44 AM
chalbers close
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:55:00 AM
chalbers close

Judith?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 01:55:26 AM
A giant clothes peg would be better in goals than Olsen.

If he made the same mistakes but was able to play the same way as Martinez with his passing I'd sort of accept it but our whole game plan looks off with him in there and that can't be the plan for in the season. I'd be amazed if he isn't replaced.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 01:56:08 AM
Is there a penalty shootout?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: taylorsworkrate on July 24, 2023, 01:56:48 AM
Kayden Young is 17 too?!??!!!

Where are we finding these 17 year old that are either 8 foot tall or look like they are in their early 30s?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 24, 2023, 01:56:55 AM
Is there a penalty shootout?

I think there is for all the games. There was one for Yanited v Arsenal even though it was 2-0.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:57:10 AM
Not tonight, Josephine.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:57:25 AM
Game set and match

Ends 3-3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Left Side on July 24, 2023, 01:57:57 AM
Villa played well, very promising squad
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 01:58:46 AM
Thanks for all the brotherly love. Goodnight!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:59:02 AM
Goodnight all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 01:59:06 AM
Excellent start and some good football throughout. The subs killed the game but that’s the point of friendlies I suppose.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 02:00:32 AM
Peacock gave Buendia POTM.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 02:01:09 AM
Well played lads. They had a lot more experience on the pitch after the subs but we dominated with our kids.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 24, 2023, 02:01:35 AM
Happy with that. We were a bit rusty at the back and Olsen is still shit but we played some fantastic football and all our chances came from us opening them up whereas all they created came from us making mistakes.

Of course we need to not make those mistakes once the proper stuff starts but that was really promising for me.

I don't know if it was poor from them or down to us but the amount of space we were creating for Philogene was impressive, if we can find Diaby in that space he's going to have fun here.

Kellyman looked superb until we made the rest of the changes and the game broke up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 02:01:55 AM
Bit of a scrappy last half hour but, to be expected with so many changes. Fair result I thought on the balance of play.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 02:02:02 AM
Crikey it is 3am here. Alarm on for 6.30. Tsk!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 24, 2023, 02:02:10 AM
Clearly the better team and a decent atmosphere!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 02:04:15 AM
Night all!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 24, 2023, 02:05:25 AM
Same for me BE, 6.30 start.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 02:07:43 AM
People who work days are such lightweights.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 24, 2023, 02:29:02 AM
Plenty of promising signs. Look forward to seeing them in person on Wednesday
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 03:47:33 AM
According to Emery we will should see Coutinho and Diaby for the next game. Bailey rejoins us on Thursday so likely see him on Sunday vs Brentford.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 24, 2023, 03:51:34 AM
Highlights

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8mqd5r
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dubaivillain on July 24, 2023, 05:13:26 AM
That video seems to take forever to download.
Editing on this one is atrocious - you might need to watch it more than once and pause it a bit to see what’s going on.
And there’s a video game on there with a car for the last minute as well!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mizqSdAUGlM
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Oklahoma on July 24, 2023, 06:31:24 AM
Kellyman looks like a really good player, huge potential. I like the look of Aaron Ramsey also.

Tielemans was a great pick up. If we could get a Felix or Goncalves then I think world domination is not too far away!

UTV
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on July 24, 2023, 06:38:27 AM
Enjoyable game.

Their second goal and Olsen aside, I was really impressed by the Villa.

Don't like Newcastle, Wilson's face, Howe's face, Howe's fake tan face assistant's face, or any of their ridiculous fans.

Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 24, 2023, 06:55:24 AM
3 observations from me after a quick watch.

Buendia looks reborn
Olsen is hot and very, very cold
Carlos is going to give away a lot of penalties
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2023, 07:15:11 AM
Well, hadn’t planned on staying up. Thought our possession play was really good and we created a lot of good chances. We should pull a few teams apart this year. 20 minutes in and I was wondering who this new number 10 was that we had signed. Buendia was excellent. And I think Kellyman announced himself last night. He should get a loan move after that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Holte Antipode on July 24, 2023, 07:19:57 AM
A very entertaining first hit-out against Prem level opposition. Better than last year’s 1-1 v Leeds in Brisbane anyway. When we transition with pace, and add some precision (Buendia stepping up at last) most defences will not cope with us.

Struck me that:
- Cashie was only one to play full 90+8 mins. RB cover can’t be kept on hold much longer, surely?
- The high line will keep costing us goals at times. Emery’s view must be that pouncing after building from the back will offset the ledger most times.
- Philogene looked sharper than Archer in taking opportunities to impress today.
- Olsen still radiates uncertainty to others. His distribution by rolling or throwing seems better than by feet. Just a shame the game requires dealing with backpasses.
- Youri eclipses Harvey in the battle of new midfielders, espec in the critical ‘handsomeness’ stakes. Our dressing room may not have coped with that Barnes nose.

Great to have proper football back!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 07:35:32 AM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2023, 07:37:49 AM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.

Which is why it's a bit weird he had both parts on the back of his shirt.

Changed it back?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2023, 07:38:59 AM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.
I noticed the commentator was calling him Philogene.

Even though it had Bidace on the back of his shirt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 07:57:32 AM
Ah. That's very strange! I didn't stay up to watch. And yes it appears he has JPB officially but a few months ago said he wanted to be known as Jaden Philogene.

I'll get back in my box....
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 24, 2023, 08:12:47 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
The old crest ...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2023, 08:16:27 AM
Ah. That's very strange! I didn't stay up to watch. And yes it appears he has JPB officially but a few months ago said he wanted to be known as Jaden Philogene.

I'll get back in my box....

I thought maybe the commentator was either trying to be cool or he was just lazy :D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 08:39:21 AM
The babby made me chuckle on the way to school after I related Olsen’s performance.

“He’s the worst player to get a statue at Villa Park, because when he plays he is one”.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2023, 08:49:55 AM
I fell asleep just before KO.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV82EC on July 24, 2023, 08:51:25 AM
Lasted until 00:30 then had to go to sleep.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2023, 08:56:44 AM
Highlight videos being taken down.

I found this one
&ab_channel=PremierLeague
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 24, 2023, 09:00:42 AM
Made it to half time. Sorry, but who/what is Kellyman?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 24, 2023, 09:06:21 AM
Made it to half time. Sorry, but who/what is Kellyman?
A very promising 17 year old who came on for a second half cameo and lit up the place a couple of times.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 24, 2023, 09:06:35 AM
17 year old who came on in the 2nd half and looked good. I'd never heard of him before.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 09:07:08 AM
Made it to half time. Sorry, but who/what is Kellyman?

Omari Kellyman, 17 year old AM, signed from Derby in 21/22. Played for Northern Ireland's under 19s when he was still 16, but has since declared for England. There's a few clips of him in the training videos, looks sharp from what little you can see, and by all accounts did very well last night.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 24, 2023, 09:10:05 AM
17 year old who came on in the 2nd half and looked good. I'd never heard of him before.

His highlight reel I saw was fantastic but I can’t find it now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 09:19:10 AM
Kellyman did really well. If you look at the third goal in the highlights link above, he was really deep in his own half when he started the move with a great pass to Buendia, and then makes up a load of ground and has a shot which led to the goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ger Regan on July 24, 2023, 09:33:50 AM
Yeah, very unlucky not to score himself. Looks a big lad too, but not sure is that just in relation to Emi or not.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 09:43:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
The old crest ...

And just Philogene....
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on July 24, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
The old crest ...

And just Philogene....

He's not my lover.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 24, 2023, 10:11:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
The old crest ...

And just Philogene....

He's not my lover.
👏👏
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 24, 2023, 10:15:32 AM
That’s not the old crest, that’d be the original and best round badge,

Has a very frustrating day downloading a few pages of the match thread at a time whenever I got some mobile reception. Looks like we started well and would have won of not for Olsen.

Hopefully it makes us more likely to replace the useless lump.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 10:44:57 AM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 11:00:43 AM
We still have Bailey, Coutinho and Diaby to join the squad that scored 3 last night.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: brontebilly on July 24, 2023, 11:07:10 AM
3 observations from me after a quick watch.

Buendia looks reborn
Olsen is hot and very, very cold
Carlos is going to give away a lot of penalties

Thought Martinez was asleep for their first. Playing a high line then his starting position needs to be a lot higher to deal with balls over the top. Not sure if it's the new shirt but Buendia looks a bit trimmer. Ongoing worries about Carlos I'm afraid, done by ball over the top far too easily and ridiculous tackle on Wilson.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: john2710 on July 24, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
I thought we were much the better team for the majority of the game. Whilst we cut them open multiple times, their goals & chances were mostly from our errors.

The young players more than held their own.

Buendia is such a frustrating player, is often instrumental in linking our play but then let's us down with a lack of accuracy. If he can improve that we'll take some stopping.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 24, 2023, 11:17:56 AM
We still have Bailey, Coutinho and Diaby to join the squad that scored 3 last night.

Ramsey as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 24, 2023, 11:21:10 AM
Went to bed when we were very comfortable at 2-0 up but having just seen the highlights above conclude that we're good going forward and prone to errors at the back.  We have to be completely on it playing with such a high line and Olsen for their 3rd I think it was, pushing the ball back into a position for their attacker.  The initial save should be pushed out of harm's way, that's basic stuff. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 24, 2023, 11:27:24 AM

3 observations from me after a quick watch.

Buendia looks reborn
Olsen is hot and very, very cold
Carlos is going to give away a lot of penalties
Konsa needs to stay on his feet; if he jockeys Anderson for the first, he probably does enough to put him off the shot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 24, 2023, 11:31:47 AM
Omari Kellyman, still only 17 but along with JPB the pick of the kids supposedly.  Has anybody seen him playing for the U18s?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on July 24, 2023, 11:41:37 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1wM-HeWYAM4NVK?format=jpg&name=large)
The old crest ...

And just Philogene....
Philogene-Bidace on back of his shirt. That will bring a few extra quid in on his shirt sales
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on July 24, 2023, 11:43:03 AM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.
link?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 24, 2023, 11:47:23 AM
Tielemans was wearing a camera on his shirt, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2023, 11:48:00 AM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.

I know the ref was wearing one. Was it definitely Guimaraes?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gerrin on July 24, 2023, 11:54:23 AM
Omari Kellyman, still only 17 but along with JPB the pick of the kids supposedly.  Has anybody seen him playing for the U18s?

Why doesn't he have his own thread yet, looks very promising, more so than Chuk did. Fingers crossed he doesn't get his head turned before we can get him signed on a long deal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.

I wonder whether the rules in the Championship are different or something.

Did well. Picked out Kellyman on the break away, who hit the post before Buendia put the rebound away. The ex-pro's were raving about him on commentary. They mentioned he had previously played for Northern Ireland at youth level but was eligible for England too, and they said he would clearly have a choice to make...suggesting they saw enough ability to go on to play for England at some point. I thought he would stick around at youth level for us a bit more but can see him going on loan now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 12:11:30 PM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.
Oh no, his transfer value has gone down by a third!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 12:12:31 PM
Just a point of order. Our player is now Jaden Philogene. He's dropped the Bidace bit.

I wonder whether the rules in the Championship are different or something.

Did well. Picked out Kellyman on the break away, who hit the post before Buendia put the rebound away. The ex-pro's were raving about him on commentary. They mentioned he had previously played for Northern Ireland at youth level but was eligible for England too, and they said he would clearly have a choice to make...suggesting they saw enough ability to go on to play for England at some point. I thought he would stick around at youth level for us a bit more but can see him going on loan now.

He's already changed to England, but hasn't played for them yet. 

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/sport/northern-ireland-lose-another-top-teenager-as-omari-kellyman-opts-for-england/1251745972.html
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 12:20:04 PM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.

I know the ref was wearing one. Was it definitely Guimaraes?

https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1683386345597673472?s=20
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 24, 2023, 12:26:29 PM
Just seen the goals.  Don't really think Martinez and Cash can be blamed really, Kamara just got caught in possession.  We got caught by balls over the top for the other two.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PGW on July 24, 2023, 12:32:53 PM
Just seen the goals.  Don't really think Martinez and Cash can be blamed really, Kamara just got caught in possession.  We got caught by balls over the top for the other two.
Where was Duran last night???
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 24, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
He's not in the squad for the US tour.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 24, 2023, 12:35:16 PM
Just seen the goals.  Don't really think Martinez and Cash can be blamed really, Kamara just got caught in possession.  We got caught by balls over the top for the other two.
Where was Duran last night???

Playing at the Alhambra Theatre, Swansea.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PGW on July 24, 2023, 12:37:05 PM
He's not in the squad for the US tour.
Any reason why, i thought the experience would be great for him...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.

I know the ref was wearing one. Was it definitely Guimaraes?

https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1683386345597673472?s=20

Fair enough. Didn't think they would do it for players as well but gather Tielemans had one on when he came on too. Seems to have been a few gimmicky things during these exhibition matches.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: john e on July 24, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
Some very positive performances last night, but I can’t for the life of me understand why we are persisting with Olsen

Every manager has an Achilles heel maybe Olsen is going to be Emery’s
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 01:09:15 PM
Some very positive performances last night, but I can’t for the life of me understand why we are persisting with Olsen
Every manager has an Achilles heel maybe Olson is going to be Emery’s

Maybe Achilles' heel was his Emery's keeper?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.

I know the ref was wearing one. Was it definitely Guimaraes?

https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1683386345597673472?s=20

Fair enough. Didn't think they would do it for players as well but gather Tielemans had one on when he came on too. Seems to have been a few gimmicky things during these exhibition matches.

Watching that has made me feel sea sick.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 24, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
Problem is gimmicks tried out in these sort of games usually end up in real games after broadcast media pressure when TV rights are being negotiated.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 24, 2023, 01:15:47 PM
Not seen any of the game (apart from Ollies goal) but it sounds like some of our attacking play was very good. Bit worrying that Olsen had another iffy game. Unai must see something in him to keep giving him chances though I'm not sure what.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 01:21:21 PM
I cant see how well the bodycams would catch on though. It's really difficult to see what's actually happening, makes you motion sick, and the arms in front make it look comical.

It's interesting I think if there is a controversy and they want all the footage and angles they can, but I'm not sure the broadcasters will be wanting to show too much of that footage during a match.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 01:31:22 PM
Whatever next ? In game player interviews ? It's happened in golf so why not ? Quick interview with the keeper if there's say a corner up the other end
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on July 24, 2023, 01:36:09 PM
I cant see how well the bodycams would catch on though. It's really difficult to see what's actually happening, makes you motion sick, and the arms in front make it look comical.

It's interesting I think if there is a controversy and they want all the footage and angles they can, but I'm not sure the broadcasters will be wanting to show too much of that footage during a match.

Our Saudi friends may have a solution for this
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2023, 01:37:51 PM
Highlight videos being taken down.

I found this one
&ab_channel=PremierLeague

Don't know how they can put a highlights package together and not include Kellyman's one-on-one, especially since they included Buendia's one that would have been his hat-trick.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 24, 2023, 01:53:34 PM
Unai Emery is preparing to be without Alex Moreno and Jacob Ramsey for the entirety of August.

Bertrand Troare will be ready in three weeks' time, while Emery hopes to welcome Jhon Duran back to training after the tour of the USA. Leon Bailey arrives in the States on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1683457106546966528?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 24, 2023, 02:13:16 PM

Don't know how they can put a highlights package together and not include Kellyman's one-on-one, especially since they included Buendia's one that would have been his hat-trick.

The official sky sports highlights seems to have been taken from an awful stream but has the only the goals AND the chance at the end.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/12926391/newcastle-3-3-aston-villa-six-goal-thriller-ends-in-draw
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2023, 02:31:21 PM
The Premier League have released some bodycam footage from a camera that Guimaraes was wearing last night, makes interesting viewing.

I saw that Tielemans had one on also - originally i thought it was that Vic vapour rub Merson used to wear

Whatever will they think up next - a camera in the ball*








*Looks for copyright ideas
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 24, 2023, 03:32:17 PM
Quick summary...
Very good attacking from 1st XI, less so from the youngsters. We looked capable of scoring each time we went forward.
The problems were Carlos and Olsen in the 2nd half. Kamara didn't help. Diego was Curtis Davis poor.
Great to see so many Villa shirts at the stadium.
Special mention for the a-hole stewards trying to push the kids out after the game as they were waiting for autographs by the tunnel.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 03:35:43 PM
Quick summary...
Very good attacking from 1st XI, less so from the youngsters. We looked capable of scoring each time we went forward.
The problems were Carlos and Olsen in the 2nd half. Kamara didn't help. Diego was Curtis Davis poor.
Great to see so many Villa shirts at the stadium.
Special mention for the a-hole stewards trying to push the kids out after the game as they were waiting for autographs by the tunnel.

I read on Twitter (or whatever the fuck it is called today) that at these matches inside the stadium they're charging $18 a beer and $9 for water.

Clearly, they've gone and done a proper job of adapting to the Premier League.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 03:39:13 PM
Buendia on the one-on-one: “I think I should have scored another one in the second half but I hadn’t been in that situation too often, so I didn’t know what to do.

“I’ll keep training those situations so that I can score the next one. I’m happy with the game today.”

Whaaaaat? Not been in a one-on-one very often? Fuck me, just stick it int net lad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 24, 2023, 03:39:15 PM
Quick summary...
Very good attacking from 1st XI, less so from the youngsters. We looked capable of scoring each time we went forward.
The problems were Carlos and Olsen in the 2nd half. Kamara didn't help. Diego was Curtis Davis poor.
Great to see so many Villa shirts at the stadium.
Special mention for the a-hole stewards trying to push the kids out after the game as they were waiting for autographs by the tunnel.

I read on Twitter (or whatever the fuck it is called today) that at these matches inside the stadium they're charging $18 a beer and $9 for water.

Clearly, they've gone and done a proper job of adapting to the Premier League.

It was $40 to park, $13.50 for a domestic and I think $16-18 for an import.

Lots of home jerseys sold as well - its not that bad in person.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 24, 2023, 03:40:08 PM
I wonder how much the Premier League are paying the club for helping to 'spread the gospel' ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 24, 2023, 03:43:53 PM
Yeah, the food and drink was extortionate. We paid $40 to park too.
I saw them selling Villa shirts for $120.
The fan zone was ok, kept my daughter happy for a while especially the 2v2 game we played.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 03:54:56 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 04:00:14 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV82EC on July 24, 2023, 04:01:09 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.

Errr isn’t there a game on Thursday night?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 24, 2023, 04:02:15 PM
I know it's hard to say until you see starting line ups and what not, but can we assume Newcastle were the toughest of the 3 US matches?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 24, 2023, 04:02:53 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.
Fulham on Wednesday at midnight first.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 24, 2023, 04:03:10 PM
It's just an annoying time. If it was 2am, could realistically go to bed and get back up, but midnight means staying up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 24, 2023, 04:03:33 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.

Isn't Sunday a 5pm ko?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2023, 04:04:12 PM
5pm UK time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 04:05:14 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.

Isn't Sunday a 5pm ko?

Is it? Even better then.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 04:05:33 PM
Dogtanian. Simply go to bed two hours earlier than you would have for a 2 in the morning kick-off. Hey Presto! ;-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 04:05:59 PM
Don't think i'll stay up for the next game. Been nodding off at my desk today

Next game on Sunday is a 7pm kick off.
Fulham on Wednesday at midnight first.
Yeah that one, problem is i wasn't going to watch last night, but then after it had KO'd i couldn't switch it off
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 24, 2023, 04:10:29 PM
From what we saw, all the team's played like it was pre-season and hot. The only exception being Villa's 1st half attack. We left the earlier Fulham-Brentford game early in the 2nd half to go back to the fan zone because it was pretty low quality. Lots of touchdowns though to keep the locals happy :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 24, 2023, 04:28:54 PM
Dogtanian. Simply go to bed two hours earlier than you would have for a 2 in the morning kick-off. Hey Presto! ;-)

Just watch it at the American time, then there's no problem!  ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: astonvilla82 on July 24, 2023, 07:29:34 PM
Yeah, the food and drink was extortionate. We paid $40 to park too.
I saw them selling Villa shirts for $120.
The fan zone was ok, kept my daughter happy for a while especially the 2v2 game we played.
went to bed at 3am, up at 10.00am , little sleep this afternoon, isn't retirement lovely
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 07:45:10 PM
Feels like the teams in this US tournament have been briefed to play open attacking football to keep the locals happy. Watch the next game end up a turgid 0-0 now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 24, 2023, 07:53:57 PM
Feels like the teams in this US tournament have been briefed to play open attacking football to keep the locals happy. Watch the next game end up a turgid 0-0 now.
Well, it would be a sad state of affairs if teams were told to park the bus or reenact Germany vs Austria 1982.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 24, 2023, 08:04:50 PM
It's just an annoying time. If it was 2am, could realistically go to bed and get back up, but midnight means staying up.

That used to kill me when I lived in Shanghai. The Saturday 5.30 kick offs in winter meant a 1.30am start over there, but at least I could lie in on Sunday morning. The worst were the Sunday 4pm kick offs as that was midnight in China. Going to bed deflated and trying to sleep at 2am on Monday morning was really difficult. I was too furious to sleep at all after the 2010 Phil Dowd disaster.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 24, 2023, 09:42:42 PM
For each of their three goals Cash could have done better IMO.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 09:57:13 PM
It's just an annoying time. If it was 2am, could realistically go to bed and get back up, but midnight means staying up.

That used to kill me when I lived in Shanghai. The Saturday 5.30 kick offs in winter meant a 1.30am start over there, but at least I could lie in on Sunday morning. The worst were the Sunday 4pm kick offs as that was midnight in China. Going to bed deflated and trying to sleep at 2am on Monday morning was really difficult. I was too furious to sleep at all after the 2010 Phil Dowd disaster.
Worst one I had was a 4am start in Vancouver to watch the small Heath game , that one we were 2-0 up in and they scored a last minute equaliser and it was as if they'd won the World Cup. That really ruined my Sunday that one
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on July 24, 2023, 11:01:29 PM
Sorry if already mentioned but Villa fans will be gathering at the Harp & Celt Irish Pub Orlando from 11am on Wednesday.
I'll be stopping by 😊
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 11:13:30 PM
For each of their three goals Cash could have done better IMO.

I like Metty Cesh, seems a decent bloke, but if i draw a list of "players we need to improve on", he's at the top. Well, not THE top, that's obviously Olsen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2023, 11:15:40 PM
Olsen by a country mile. He's awful.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 24, 2023, 11:17:11 PM
Cash appears to have hit his glass ceiling . Unless Emery can work his magic. Either way we need another RB
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 24, 2023, 11:20:22 PM
It's just an annoying time. If it was 2am, could realistically go to bed and get back up, but midnight means staying up.

That used to kill me when I lived in Shanghai. The Saturday 5.30 kick offs in winter meant a 1.30am start over there, but at least I could lie in on Sunday morning. The worst were the Sunday 4pm kick offs as that was midnight in China. Going to bed deflated and trying to sleep at 2am on Monday morning was really difficult. I was too furious to sleep at all after the 2010 Phil Dowd disaster.
Worst one I had was a 4am start in Vancouver to watch the small Heath game , that one we were 2-0 up in and they scored a last minute equaliser and it was as if they'd won the World Cup. That really ruined my Sunday that one

A day that starts like that is a write off!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 11:20:30 PM
Rewatching last night's game, Tim Howard on comms is absolutely fawning over us the whole match. If i were a Newcastle fan, that'd have been annoying.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2023, 11:39:32 PM
Another observation - it may have been a draw, but we played by far the better football.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: danno on July 24, 2023, 11:43:35 PM
Another observation - it may have been a draw, but we played by far the better football.

We have better players and a better manager.
I think a combined eleven would be 90% Villa players.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 24, 2023, 11:55:49 PM
Rewatching last night's game, Tim Howard on comms is absolutely fawning over us the whole match. If i were a Newcastle fan, that'd have been annoying.

Mentioned on the Match thread, those of us lucky enough to have US commentary were thanking our lucky stars we didn't have to listen to pro-Saudi bullshit. Whenever I have an option of a UK or US stream, it's always 'la la la la la America'.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 25, 2023, 06:13:20 AM

That used to kill me when I lived in Shanghai. The Saturday 5.30 kick offs in winter meant a 1.30am start over there, but at least I could lie in on Sunday morning. The worst were the Sunday 4pm kick offs as that was midnight in China. Going to bed deflated and trying to sleep at 2am on Monday morning was really difficult. I was too furious to sleep at all after the 2010 Phil Dowd disaster.

I feel you. It’s much the same in New Zealand, but a couple of hours more offset. 3am kickoffs are a nightmare.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 25, 2023, 08:45:06 AM
Another observation - it may have been a draw, but we played by far the better football.
We did, we were undone by our own silly errors , hopefully it's just rustiness and now its a case of ironing out any creases pre-season
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on July 25, 2023, 12:01:47 PM
For each of their three goals Cash could have done better IMO.

I like Metty Cesh, seems a decent bloke, but if i draw a list of "players we need to improve on", he's at the top. Well, not THE top, that's obviously Olsen.

I sort of agree, at least of those who are pretty much first choice options in the team, BUT, it's such a good sign of the progress we've made as a club and a squad that someone like Matty Cash is now considered one of the weaker players in the side.  I think he's a good RB - not exceptional, but good - and he's a full international.  A guaranteed upgrade won't be easy to source.  We need covered though, definitely.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 25, 2023, 12:30:44 PM
For each of their three goals Cash could have done better IMO.

I like Metty Cesh, seems a decent bloke, but if i draw a list of "players we need to improve on", he's at the top. Well, not THE top, that's obviously Olsen.

I sort of agree, at least of those who are pretty much first choice options in the team, BUT, it's such a good sign of the progress we've made as a club and a squad that someone like Matty Cash is now considered one of the weaker players in the side.  I think he's a good RB - not exceptional, but good - and he's a full international.  A guaranteed upgrade won't be easy to source.  We need covered though, definitely.

He was being linked with a £50m move to Arsenal not long after we signed him. I don't think he's a bad player at all, but it would be good to see him improve as others have; that maybe says more about the level of better performance we've seen from others though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 25, 2023, 02:26:27 PM
I like Cash too. For me he's just the right blend of good defender but also adept at getting forward. Not as good as Moreno going forward, but better defensively. He's also pretty quick. Crossing's usually pretty shoddy, but in Emery's system it's not that important.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 25, 2023, 02:55:14 PM
Look at this beautiful man. Looking forward to seeing him blow past a FB in the coming days, weeks and months


(https://i.ibb.co/brBGs7W/IMG-0003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/brBGs7W)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 25, 2023, 09:28:19 PM
Cash was just rusty , he's better than what we saw Sunday night / Monday morning
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 25, 2023, 10:12:25 PM
I see the Brentford game is on the telly on Sunday at the very sensible time of 4.30pm.  Excellent.  I couldn't sleep when we played Newcastle.  Very selfish of them to play the game at bedtime!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 25, 2023, 11:25:51 PM
gonna give the fulham game a miss. The NUFC game has already dilapidated my week so far
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 25, 2023, 11:57:05 PM
I hope they’re prepared for what the NYT calls ‘dangerous’ levels of heat, in Florida and neighbouring states.

Posted after seeing films of regular Med summer venues bursting into flames.
This seems like a year when temperatures soar above usual levels.

Hope the crowds are well watered, as well!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dubaivillain on July 26, 2023, 06:00:16 AM

That used to kill me when I lived in Shanghai. The Saturday 5.30 kick offs in winter meant a 1.30am start over there, but at least I could lie in on Sunday morning. The worst were the Sunday 4pm kick offs as that was midnight in China. Going to bed deflated and trying to sleep at 2am on Monday morning was really difficult. I was too furious to sleep at all after the 2010 Phil Dowd disaster.

I feel you. It’s much the same in New Zealand, but a couple of hours more offset. 3am kickoffs are a nightmare.

We lived in New Zealand for a couple of years and I missed a lot of the Championship games.  There’s a lot of players I can barely remember from those 2 seasons and it’s a massive gap in my 45 years of supporting the Villa.
I did see plenty of the promotion season as we’d moved on by then
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Holte Antipode on July 26, 2023, 09:04:12 AM
Incidentally, is there a NZ Lions group yet? 
I realise it couldn't possibly match those Ghana Lions Club blokes for sheer style and commitment

But even so something should be done about this, for the sake of third world equivalence etc...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 26, 2023, 10:29:32 AM

But even so something should be done about this, for the sake of third world equivalence etc...

Indeed. But as I currently live in Vietnam, I feel somewhat conflicted.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaMart58 on July 26, 2023, 12:34:36 PM
Can’t see any details of last night’s match on the AVFC website yet, so here’s my two-penneth. I went to the Hereford FC vs Aston Villa U21 pre-season match at Edgar Street last night. Very competitive match. Good to see the U21s playing the ‘Unai way’. Passing it out from the back, patient build up, etc. Game ended in a 2-2 draw following a late Villa equaliser. Decent crowd (2,324) for a friendly considering Hereford are in the sixth tier of the English leagues. This included an away following of 244 Villa fans. Villa U21s away at Rushall Olympic next Tuesday Aug 1st.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2023, 01:08:14 PM
Thanks VillaMart58. Didn't even know they played. The OS isn't great for coverage of the youth levels.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 01:23:31 PM
The plan today is not to stay up until 2am on a school night and then wake up absolutely shattered and keep nodding of at my desk on Thursday .
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 26, 2023, 01:26:22 PM
The plan today is not to stay up until 2am on a school night and then wake up absolutely shattered and keep nodding of at my desk on Thursday .

That's exactly my plan, plus pizza. Only I went and shot myself in the foot by staying at my mates till 1am last night meaning I'm f***ed before I even begin.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2023, 01:29:23 PM
Busy day tomorrow so I'll only have chance to watch the highlights. Looking forward to being able to watch on Sunday though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 26, 2023, 02:17:57 PM
I am on holiday and have cleared my municipal diary for the next few days so another late feast of football is on the cards.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 26, 2023, 02:49:19 PM
I will be watching (but not drinking) as i have hospital app at 8am on Thursday then a drive to Northampton to do a work presentation and meeting.

Small sacrifice for seeing the Villa
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 26, 2023, 06:47:20 PM
I will be watching (but not drinking) as i have hospital app at 8am on Thursday then a drive to Northampton to do a work presentation and meeting.

Small sacrifice for seeing the Villa
All the best with the hospital appointment and Presentation thereafter!
Hookey!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 26, 2023, 08:40:29 PM
I keep looking at the clock thing “well, it’s only another 3 hours from now, you can do that” but I felt like rubbish on Monday so I’m going to play it by ear.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 09:16:35 PM
Going to bed is the sensible option, there is absolutely no need to stay up tonight to watch this one.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 26, 2023, 09:23:08 PM
I rarely go to bed before 1am so not an issue to stay up a bit later.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 26, 2023, 09:35:11 PM
I will be watching (but not drinking) as i have hospital app at 8am on Thursday then a drive to Northampton to do a work presentation and meeting.

Small sacrifice for seeing the Villa
All the best with the hospital appointment and Presentation thereafter!
Hookey!

Seconded.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 26, 2023, 09:35:52 PM
Going to bed is the sensible option, there is absolutely no need to stay up tonight to watch this one.

You’re nuts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 09:41:31 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 26, 2023, 09:49:36 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

Carlos looks really off the pace.

Why isn’t Duran on the bench?

Where is Bailey???
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SamTheMouse on July 26, 2023, 10:17:55 PM
I'm in bed with what appears to be Covid, so I'll be trying to stay awake and probably failing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 26, 2023, 10:22:56 PM
Going to bed is the sensible option, there is absolutely no need to stay up tonight to watch this one.

Mom, is that you?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 10:23:25 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

Carlos looks really off the pace.

Why isn’t Duran on the bench?

Where is Bailey???
This high line is suicidal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 26, 2023, 10:27:18 PM
Carlos looks really off the pace.

Why isn’t Duran on the bench?

Where is Bailey???

This high line is suicidal

What a save that was by Olsen, for me that's his best 90 mins since he came to Villa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2023, 10:30:32 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

You utter, utter barstool.
For a minute I thought I'd missed most of the game.
Many years ago I called you 'Tonto', you thought it was racist but it was Portuguese for 'fool/idiot/silly'.
Just when I thought you'd lost the title..ah bugger, see you later! ;)

Can't remember the last time I was this nervous about a friendly game other than Leeds in 75.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:30:42 PM
Hopefully I'll stay awake this time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:31:43 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

You utter, utter barstool.
For a minute I thought I'd missed most of the game.
Many years ago I called you 'Tonto' (tolo but sounds like), you thought it was racist but it was Portuguese for 'fool/idiot'.
Just when I thought you'd lost the title..ah bugger, see you later! ;)

Can't remember the last time I was this nervous about a friendly game other than Leeds in 75.

Rangers?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: astonvilla82 on July 26, 2023, 10:34:28 PM
Match is on sky showcase virgin 109 and on sky 106
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 10:34:37 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

You utter, utter barstool.
For a minute I thought I'd missed most of the game.
Many years ago I called you 'Tonto', you thought it was racist but it was Portuguese for 'fool/idiot/silly'.
Just when I thought you'd lost the title..ah bugger, see you later! ;)

Can't remember the last time I was this nervous about a friendly game other than Leeds in 75.

FYi - Based on the above we lead the game after conceding early and then fuck it up late on. It’s the Villa with Olsen in goal way. Sorry. For future games please feel free to use any of the above statements in any order.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 26, 2023, 10:37:21 PM
Oh, for heaven's sake, I thought this game was being played at midnight on Thursday, and was just about to go to bed.  Previous game I watched until half time, now I don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2023, 10:38:29 PM
Hopefully I'll stay awake this time.

Hopefully today Cam will get a few more minutes. Maybe Watkins has insisted he'll only sign the new contract if Cam stays on the bench. ;) For me, Watkins best attribute is his positioning, few strikers can do it and Ollie knows where to put himself. Poor control but he's always there. Archer was all over the pitch in his few minutes against Saudi Utd, I hope Emery can give Archer some coaching about positional play as his finishing is five stars. Combine Watkins positioning and Archer's technique and we've the perfect striker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:38:49 PM
It is midnight on Thursday. I think. Tomorrow is Thursday. It starts at midnight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2023, 10:40:49 PM
C’MON VILLLLLLLLLLLA

FFS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck me Olsen is on. We’re fucked

Just getting some practice in for later

You utter, utter barstool.
For a minute I thought I'd missed most of the game.
Many years ago I called you 'Tonto', you thought it was racist but it was Portuguese for 'fool/idiot/silly'.
Just when I thought you'd lost the title..ah bugger, see you later! ;)

Can't remember the last time I was this nervous about a friendly game other than Leeds in 75.

FYi - Based on the above we lead the game after conceding early and then fuck it up late on. It’s the Villa with Olsen in goal way. Sorry. For future games please feel free to use any of the above statements in any order.

You can see I'm getting nervous. FFS it's only a friendly but a friendly we NEED TO WIN.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: astonvilla82 on July 26, 2023, 10:41:34 PM
It is midnight on Thursday. I think. Tomorrow is Thursday. It starts at midnight.
it's on tonight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:41:52 PM
Olsen is a liability. Well out of his depth at this level.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 26, 2023, 10:42:29 PM
Hopefully I'll stay awake this time.

Hopefully today Cam will get a few more minutes. Maybe Watkins has insisted he'll only sign the new contract if Cam stays on the bench. ;) For me, Watkins best attribute is his positioning, few strikers can do it and Ollie knows where to put himself. Poor control but he's always there. Archer was all over the pitch in his few minutes against Saudi Utd, I hope Emery can give Archer some coaching about positional play as his finishing is five stars. Combine Watkins positioning and Archer's technique and we've the perfect striker.

We can rebuild him. We have the Emery.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:42:35 PM
It is midnight on Thursday. I think. Tomorrow is Thursday. It starts at midnight.
it's on tonight

Yes. At midnight. On Thursday...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 26, 2023, 10:42:50 PM
Midnight is a very confusing time to start a game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 26, 2023, 10:51:54 PM
Villa socials have pics of some shirts hanging up, looks like coutinho is involved today.

Edit: and diaby!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:53:28 PM
Tomorrow...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 26, 2023, 10:53:34 PM
Midnight is a very confusing time to start a game.

The coverage starts at 11.50 pm tonight on Virgin 503.
Just in time for midnight. And Thursday!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2023, 10:53:47 PM
Hopefully I'll stay awake this time.

Hopefully today Cam will get a few more minutes. Maybe Watkins has insisted he'll only sign the new contract if Cam stays on the bench. ;) For me, Watkins best attribute is his positioning, few strikers can do it and Ollie knows where to put himself. Poor control but he's always there. Archer was all over the pitch in his few minutes against Saudi Utd, I hope Emery can give Archer some coaching about positional play as his finishing is five stars. Combine Watkins positioning and Archer's technique and we've the perfect striker.

We can rebuild him. We have the Emery.

Watkins? You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Emery has already performed miracles but to improve Watkins first touch? Start building a statue if it ever happens. I saw an interesting interview with a top striker, not sure if it wasn't Van Nistelrooy but he explained how as a youngster he never played with his right foot for 3 months purely to strengthen his left foot. After the three months he was comfortable with both.

Teaching Archer where he needs to concentrate his running is far easier. His technique is already very advanced.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 10:54:07 PM
Midnight is a very confusing time to start a game.

Isn't it just!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 10:55:08 PM
I'm watching the Fulham game yesterday
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 10:56:36 PM
Midnight is where the day begins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 26, 2023, 10:58:33 PM
Oh, for heaven's sake, I thought this game was being played at midnight on Thursday, and was just about to go to bed.  Previous game I watched until half time, now I don't know what to do.

It is.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 11:00:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_p195XwAEoH3_?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 26, 2023, 11:01:17 PM
Villa socials have pics of some shirts hanging up, looks like coutinho is involved today.

Edit: and diaby!

The shirts look really poor quality in those pictures. Maybe it's just from being carted around on tour, but yeah, really shabby looking.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 11:01:31 PM
Cam better score a few this half because we might be conceding a few
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 11:01:47 PM
Oh, for heaven's sake, I thought this game was being played at midnight on Thursday, and was just about to go to bed.  Previous game I watched until half time, now I don't know what to do.
When we go 2-0 up after 15 mins , turn it off and go to bed happy days.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 11:02:31 PM
Good to see Olsen given a deserved chance to show he's ready to challenge for the number 1 spot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 11:03:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_nbIGXwAI16zK?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 26, 2023, 11:04:55 PM
So we should see Coutinho and Diaby both on at the same time in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2023, 11:05:12 PM
Ace! Archer. Olsen. Oh.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 26, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
Interesting line up, I may indeed watch the first half, if only to enjoy that sense of relief in watching Olsen in a game that's only a friendly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 26, 2023, 11:06:54 PM
Konsa rb?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 26, 2023, 11:08:28 PM
Wondering already who’s going to be wearing the player cam!

…Olsen?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 26, 2023, 11:09:58 PM
Fulham have a McCoy-Splatt and a Dibley-Dias on their bench.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 26, 2023, 11:10:04 PM
Olsen? I'm off to bed. I'll read about his numerous cock ups in the morning. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 11:10:42 PM
Wondering already who’s going to be wearing the player cam!

Ed Gein would probably wear the player Cam.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 26, 2023, 11:11:12 PM
Wondering already who’s going to be wearing the player cam!

Surely Archer's the obvious choice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 11:11:56 PM
This Olsen thing is weird, like buying a Ferrari and putting remould tyres on it . I don't get the logic
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2023, 11:11:57 PM
Fulham have a McCoy-Splatt and a Dibley-Dias on their bench.

(https://vhistory.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/dwayne-dibley.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 26, 2023, 11:13:21 PM
Konsa rb?

Surely looks like that is the case.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 26, 2023, 11:16:26 PM
Archer starting and Konsa at rightback will be very interesting to observe.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gareth on July 26, 2023, 11:17:41 PM
Hope someone has told Torres that he won’t have to spend his entire Villa career in front of old concrete feet….he’ll be doing an Unsworth if they haven’t told him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 26, 2023, 11:20:14 PM
Six players you expect to start on the bench.
Other than that, no worries.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 11:21:36 PM
That defence makes me a bit uncomfortable
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 11:30:00 PM
That GK makes me a bit uncomfortable

Fixed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 11:30:39 PM
Kick off delayed due to bad weather. Going to be a long night for you boys and girls at home
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Border villan on July 26, 2023, 11:32:44 PM
Anyone with a dribbling stream?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on July 26, 2023, 11:35:31 PM
Anyone with a dribbling stream?

I don’t but would be interested
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 26, 2023, 11:36:54 PM
Kick off delayed due to bad weather. Going to be a long night for you boys and girls at home
Not sure if serious
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 26, 2023, 11:37:27 PM
Kick off delayed due to bad weather. Going to be a long night for you boys and girls at home
Not sure if serious

Yes it has been delayed cos of bad weather. I hope it isn't called off. >:(
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 26, 2023, 11:39:30 PM
Hopefully I'll stay awake this time.

Hopefully today Cam will get a few more minutes. Maybe Watkins has insisted he'll only sign the new contract if Cam stays on the bench. ;) For me, Watkins best attribute is his positioning, few strikers can do it and Ollie knows where to put himself. Poor control but he's always there. Archer was all over the pitch in his few minutes against Saudi Utd, I hope Emery can give Archer some coaching about positional play as his finishing is five stars. Combine Watkins positioning and Archer's technique and we've the perfect striker.

We can rebuild him. We have the Emery.

Watkins? You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Emery has already performed miracles but to improve Watkins first touch? Start building a statue if it ever happens. I saw an interesting interview with a top striker, not sure if it wasn't Van Nistelrooy but he explained how as a youngster he never played with his right foot for 3 months purely to strengthen his left foot. After the three months he was comfortable with both.

Teaching Archer where he needs to concentrate his running is far easier. His technique is already very advanced.

It was an (admittedly very shit) Six Million Dollar Man joke about combining them.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 26, 2023, 11:43:30 PM
Anyone with a dribbling stream?

I don’t but would be interested

I'll be dribbling on the sofa shortly
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 26, 2023, 11:46:28 PM
How long has it been delayed for, was at least going to watch the first half but thinking twice now?
Also is a re run of the game being shown tomorrow does anyone know?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on July 26, 2023, 11:46:34 PM
Anyone with a dribbling stream?
Yes. Quite common at my age.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 26, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
Going to bed is the sensible option, there is absolutely no need to stay up tonight to watch this one.
Shut up ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 11:48:55 PM
8pm sounds like a decent start time from my vantage point.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 26, 2023, 11:49:49 PM
How long has it been delayed for, was at least going to watch the first half but thinking twice now?
Also is a re run of the game being shown tomorrow does anyone know?

At the moment, I think it’s 30 minutes later than the original KO time. 7 pm / 7.30pm.
That was the last I saw, 8 pm is new to me!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 26, 2023, 11:51:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_nbIGXwAI16zK?format=jpg&name=small)
Looks like most Fulham players have to put up with short names because number 14 and 44 have taken up all the available letters.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 26, 2023, 11:52:46 PM
8pm sounds like a decent start time from my vantage point.
Now you are getting revenge for all those early morning starts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 26, 2023, 11:53:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_nbIGXwAI16zK?format=jpg&name=small)
Looks like most Fulham players have to put up with short names because number 14 and 44 have taken up all the available letters.

How do they get de fouges in de fougerolles?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 26, 2023, 11:57:17 PM
Wondered why they were still showing an EFL play off game on Sky.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 26, 2023, 11:57:58 PM
Wondered why they were still showing an EFL play off game on Sky.

I was just getting paranoid about that too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2023, 11:58:26 PM
8pm sounds like a decent start time from my vantage point.
Now you are getting revenge for all those early morning starts.

Haha quite. 30 min won’t kill anyone. But yeh, those 7.30am kick offs hurt after a late Friday night out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 26, 2023, 11:59:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_nbIGXwAI16zK?format=jpg&name=small)
Looks like most Fulham players have to put up with short names because number 14 and 44 have taken up all the available letters.

How do they get de fouges in de fougerolles?

I see they’ll be waiting for Godo, again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 27, 2023, 12:00:20 AM
Not starting until 1am at the earliest.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:01:02 AM
Which sky channel will it be on? My firestick will let me down anyway (fecking Virgin Media) but need to see if I can find it or I’m firing up the laptop.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 27, 2023, 12:01:19 AM
1am KO for us, at best.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:01:47 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1_nbIGXwAI16zK?format=jpg&name=small)

Looks like most Fulham players have to put up with short names because number 14 and 44 have taken up all the available letters.

Bit of trivia, their No. 28's grandmother was a survivor of the Munich air disaster.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 12:02:14 AM
Just don’t want any injuries. It’s pre season so if it gets called off that’s fine. I don’t think it will but the ref needs to go with a cautious approach to starting this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 27, 2023, 12:05:20 AM
So it's goodnight from me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on July 27, 2023, 12:05:49 AM
I'm in there now. No info to the fans. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 27, 2023, 12:06:21 AM
1am KO for us, at best.

Boo. I’ll hope to catch a re run of it in the morning.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 12:06:44 AM
Oh FFS
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 27, 2023, 12:07:14 AM
Just don’t want any injuries. It’s pre season so if it gets called off that’s fine. I don’t think it will but the ref needs to go with a cautious approach to starting this.

What’s the reason, torrential rain?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 27, 2023, 12:08:53 AM
Fucking hell, what a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:08:58 AM
What was it BV said earlier about ponytails?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 27, 2023, 12:09:31 AM
Bollocks to that! It's 1.09am here already. See ya!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:11:15 AM
Bollocks to that! It's 1.09am here already. See ya!

But you're (always) on holiday! Part timer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:11:37 AM
What was it BV said earlier about ponytails?

Sigh, who's sporting one now? Can't be Unai, he's got too much dignity.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:13:36 AM
Just don’t want any injuries. It’s pre season so if it gets called off that’s fine. I don’t think it will but the ref needs to go with a cautious approach to starting this.

What’s the reason, torrential rain?

Looking at the weather radar there's some very heavy rain in the Orlando area. Probably thunderstorms too, knowing Florida in summer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 27, 2023, 12:14:20 AM
Just don’t want any injuries. It’s pre season so if it gets called off that’s fine. I don’t think it will but the ref needs to go with a cautious approach to starting this.

What’s the reason, torrential rain?

First the cricket at the weekend and now this!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 27, 2023, 12:15:16 AM
Somebody commentating on the Brentford-BHA game mentioned a lightning storm over Orlando, earlier.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on July 27, 2023, 12:15:27 AM
Keeping us on the concourses at the moment.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 27, 2023, 12:15:55 AM
It's good night from me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 12:17:00 AM
Somebody on Twitter just said 1.30am at the earliest.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 27, 2023, 12:17:32 AM
This is a sign from the Gods to Emery , Olsen ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:18:12 AM
Keeping us on the concourses at the moment.

Might clear for a few minutes but it looks like there's another very heavy rain storm coming in 1.30am. Might be some time to KO.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:19:14 AM
What was it BV said earlier about ponytails?

Sigh, who's sporting one now? Can't be Unai, he's got too much dignity.

Women's football on my stream.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 27, 2023, 12:20:22 AM
When did a bit of rain kill anyone ! It's been pissing down here for a month solid now . Night
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:21:11 AM
Somebody on Twitter just said 1.30am at the earliest.

1.15am is the latest I'm hearing from Orlando. Storm should have passed by 1am.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 12:23:47 AM
Would have been nice for the club to post somethimg, I nearly had to click on Reach site.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:26:39 AM
Would have been nice for the club to post somethimg, I nearly had to click on Reach site.

Now, now. They updated an hour ago to say there was inclement weather, like you’d be at risk jumping on a train!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:27:04 AM
What was it BV said earlier about ponytails?

Sigh, who's sporting one now? Can't be Unai, he's got too much dignity.

Women's football on my stream.

I think that's allowed. *puts Nagant M1895 away*
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 27, 2023, 12:27:21 AM
Would have been nice for the club to post somethimg, I nearly had to click on Reach site.

Fulham haven't posted anything further either as there's nothing to announce beyond it's delayed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:27:40 AM
Clouds are breaking but there has to be something like 30 minutes clear sky before they'll give the nod.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:28:13 AM
ScorchioooooOooOooOo
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 27, 2023, 12:29:08 AM
They delay games not because of the rain but because of lightning. It's the same with NFL games etc.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 27, 2023, 12:29:34 AM
ScorchioooooOooOooOo

 ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 12:30:37 AM
ScorchioooooOooOooOo

Currently about 25°C, even with the rain.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:30:40 AM
ScorchioooooOooOooOo

 ;D

After I posted it I thought “splashio” might be mildly funnier/at all funny but it was too late.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 12:33:41 AM
Daughter woke up at 12:15am. Cane downstairs and suddenly remembered the match. Went to switch it on and it isn't on?

Do I gather that there is bad weather?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 12:36:46 AM
Fucking hell, it’s not a cricket match.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 12:37:39 AM
1.25am at the earliest..still heavy rain.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 27, 2023, 12:39:13 AM
It’s receding fast. I may not be able to stay with this match past the first 5 minutes at this rate!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:39:15 AM
Is it normal/not unexpected for an American game (not just football) to get rained off?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 27, 2023, 12:39:54 AM
Is it normal/not unexpected for an American game (not just football) to get rained off?

It’s more the thunder and lightning.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 27, 2023, 12:43:59 AM
Is it normal/not unexpected for an American game (not just football) to get rained off?

It’s more the thunder and lightning.

Very, very frightening things.

I was based in Wichita, Kansas for most of the 1990's, and was surprised to learn that lightening kills more people than tornadoes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 12:44:42 AM
Is it normal/not unexpected for an American game (not just football) to get rained off?

Thunder and lightning tends to get really bad in Florida, especially Tampa.

Quite often delay NFL games. Although they wear metal helmets, so a bigger risk really.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 27, 2023, 12:44:43 AM
Very very frightening
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ez on July 27, 2023, 12:45:36 AM
Letting us in now
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:47:51 AM
Assuming it goes ahead maybe the reasoning behind keeping Martinez on the bench is there is a large Hispanic population in Orlando so he might get a big reception when he comes on.

Might be very wide of the mark and we just fancy giving ourselves a handicap before we get going. I’m going to give it another half hour and if we’re not any clearer I’ll call it a day.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 12:49:28 AM
It’s absolutely lashing it down in Toronto right now. The weather everywhere is just fucked. See the ice rivers north of Milan?

Or this hail shower Gerenzano, also in Italy?

https://twitter.com/rainmaker1973/status/1684146269982167040?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 12:51:23 AM
Team are out and warming up: https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1684350018109538305?s=46&t=MO9Hr66rdA1GUp0mSdtQrA
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 12:54:00 AM
On the bright side. Sky just showed highlights from the 2nd Leg of the 2019 Playoff Semi between Leeds and Derby.

Comedy gold.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 01:00:25 AM
Very very frightening

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Galileo_Galilei_%281564-1642%29_RMG_BHC2700.tiff/lossy-page1-440px-Galileo_Galilei_%281564-1642%29_RMG_BHC2700.tiff.jpg?format=jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Galileo_Galilei_%281564-1642%29_RMG_BHC2700.tiff/lossy-page1-440px-Galileo_Galilei_%281564-1642%29_RMG_BHC2700.tiff.jpg?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: mrfuse on July 27, 2023, 01:00:29 AM
On the bright side. Sky just showed highlights from the 2nd Leg of the 2019 Playoff Semi between Leeds and Derby.

Comedy gold.

Yep was watching that with a big grin on my face.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 01:00:59 AM
I was based in Wichita, Kansas for most of the 1990's, and was surprised to learn that lightening kills more people than tornadoes.

Fascinating stuff. So basically what you're saying is The Wizard of Oz was like one bad acid trip?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 01:03:01 AM
Is s a few minutes of chat on Sky before the start too much to ask?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: purpletrousers on July 27, 2023, 01:05:08 AM
Fulham vs #AVFC is ON and will kick-off at 20:20 (01:20 UK).

Think I’m done.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2023, 01:11:17 AM
I have given in and retired to comfort of my bed. Telly is on but no doubt I will be asleep before ko😟
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:13:19 AM
Is s a few minutes of chat on Sky before the start too much to ask?

Same here. There is zero analysis anymore. It’s 2 minutes of utter bollocks and then 5 min of ads.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on July 27, 2023, 01:15:51 AM
Just caught up with Corrie, Sarah braved the DNA results and the father of her unborn is Damon, the wrong'un.

Thought I'd catch the last half hour of this game but if it hasn't even started, feck it. Even if I could probably get away with working from bed in the morning.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 01:21:03 AM
Here we go..Come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 01:21:25 AM
For once, living in strange time-zone is a bonus.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Louzie0 on July 27, 2023, 01:31:21 AM
I don’t think I’m going to be able to make it to half time!
Play up, chaps, I hope we win. Looks promising. UTV!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:32:36 AM
As a co-commentator, Stephen Warnock needs to learn that sometimes less is more. Especially with that grating Scouse accent
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 01:32:59 AM
lol. Torres on the opposition byline
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:34:20 AM
Pretty bland start. Konsa closest. We are marginally the better side.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 01:39:22 AM
Can clearly see the three at the back when we're in possession. Not much activity to deal with, so far. I sometimes feel Konsa tries to pass much earlier than Young or even Cash would.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:41:58 AM
Cracking work by Big Diego. Super positioning, pace and strength. Warnock just called him an Adonis
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: adrenachrome on July 27, 2023, 01:43:08 AM
I was based in Wichita, Kansas for most of the 1990's, and was surprised to learn that lightening kills more people than tornadoes.

Fascinating stuff. So basically what you're saying is The Wizard of Oz was like one bad acid trip?

It was a heavy scene, man.

Bizarrely, I ended living off the the Yellow Brick Road, aka US 54.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 01:43:32 AM
Thats the defending we want to see from Carlos
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 01:44:09 AM
Not 2-0 up already? Emery out!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:47:03 AM
If they made the Villa kit claret and blue sweat coloured it would the perfect shade.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 01:47:05 AM
I think we're looking a little bit weak/open in the middle - anyone else?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 27, 2023, 01:48:16 AM
We've been ok but Archer doesn't give us the same focal point as Watkins. Missing Doug as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 01:48:20 AM
If they made the Villa kit claret and blue sweat coloured it would the perfect shade.

Pau Torres looks like he's wearing a bin bag!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:48:23 AM
The temperature at close to 9pm is almost 28C plus humidity. That’s hard work on both sets of players
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:50:20 AM
We look a bit shit so far. Fulham the better side moving the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 01:53:12 AM
I think we're looking a little bit weak/open in the middle - anyone else?

Buendia also not having the influence he did against Newcastle
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:53:43 AM
Penalty Villa. Great ball from Kamara set Archer away who was brought down
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 01:54:31 AM
Pen!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:54:56 AM
FFS Cam. Missed the penalty. Good save from Leno
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:55:21 AM
And then Cam missed a sitter right after that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 01:55:22 AM
Christ!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 27, 2023, 01:55:40 AM
shit. What a pass from kamara to find cam, though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 01:55:41 AM
Oh dear, missed the pen, then another shot wide.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 01:56:04 AM
I think we're looking a little bit weak/open in the middle - anyone else?

Buendia also not having the influence he did against Newcastle

I think not having McGinn right in the middle controlling things is showing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:58:33 AM
Silver lining Cam for both the penalty and the miss made great runs and got into goal scoring positions
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 02:01:34 AM
Really poor game this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 27, 2023, 02:03:26 AM
Yay
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:03:45 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS JPB!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 02:04:15 AM
Pleased for the lad!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 02:04:43 AM
Good finish Billy Jean
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:04:53 AM
Ole!!!! Good for Philogene and Digne
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 27, 2023, 02:04:54 AM
Good play in the build up and Philogene did superbly to finish.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:05:02 AM
What a lovely Villa goal. Cracking ball by Tielemans, well kept in and great cross from Digne and a superb finish by JPB
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 02:05:28 AM
Get in, assist by Risso.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:05:44 AM
We deserved that. Last 10 min we’ve started to look the part
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 02:06:22 AM
That's the sort of cross we expected to be seeing a lot more from Digne when he signed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:07:03 AM
I wonder if JPB decided to go to just JP as it's an easier branding decision. Wouldn't blame him, just struck me it's an easier sell on shirts etc if he hits it big.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 02:09:01 AM
I thought there was a maximum charge on names now so you don’t get put off having long names on?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:10:18 AM
After a slowish start we’ve edged this first half. It’s miserably hot and muggy down there after the rain. But we’ve done ok.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 27, 2023, 02:10:39 AM
Harrison reed  injured, I assume it's repetitive strain from kicking Tielemans.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:10:46 AM
Tielemans is a very tidy footballer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:11:51 AM
I thought there was a maximum charge on names now so you don’t get put off having long names on?

Don't know the specifics on shirt names or whatever - just meant it's a snappier name. Rolls off the tongue easier for names rights on other products etc. I'm probably wrong!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 02:12:03 AM
I think we're looking a little bit weak/open in the middle - anyone else?

Buendia also not having the influence he did against Newcastle

I reckon McGinn has touched the ball three times this half. Strange game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:13:22 AM
Fulham are dirty pricks. Their game vs Brentford was just like this. It’s a fucking friendly you twats
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:14:19 AM
HT 1-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:15:00 AM
Emery’s hair looks magnificent in the rain it has to be said
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:15:36 AM
I think we're looking a little bit weak/open in the middle - anyone else?

Buendia also not having the influence he did against Newcastle

I reckon McGinn has touched the ball three times this half. Strange game.

When I looked up the formation I thought McGinn was playing a bit further forward than usual - essentially a right sided forward which doesn't make sense.


(https://i.ibb.co/G3Bs4P1/image.png) (https://ibb.co/G3Bs4P1)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 02:15:50 AM
Pretty lethargic game. Fulham not pressing high, so it slows down a lot when we get the ball in our backline.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:18:37 AM
Emery’s hair looks magnificent in the rain it has to be said

HeeeeeerrrrBAAAAALLL Emery (I hope that ad ran in Canada)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 02:22:51 AM
None of the zip we had against Newcastle. But then there are lots of players who haven’t played together before.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 02:24:30 AM
Fulham played us at our our game, building slowly from the back, keeping the ball but creating nothing. the only thing they've done is kick us. Tossers. Already two yellows.

Very good fingertip save for Archer's penalty, at the other end Olsen's had nothing to do. Cracking cross fro Digne and tidy finish from Philogene for the goal. Thought Fulham controlled most of the half without doing anything. Carlos working well with Kosna on the right, Torres not really involved.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 27, 2023, 02:26:29 AM
A good time for Emery to see what he’s got and great experience for the younger lads. Don’t think any of them have let the team down. Presumably, they’ll be loads of changes again for the second half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 02:27:54 AM
Much better from us from the half hour point onwards. Even missing the penalty, we've played much further up the pitch, from that point.

Their only sub I've heard of is Willian, so thinking they are playing their first team.

They've been very cynical, especially Vinicius.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:28:43 AM
None of the zip we had against Newcastle. But then there are lots of players who haven’t played together before.

That and the heat and rain. We look ok. I just don’t want any stupid injuries from the conditions and Fulham, the dirty pricks
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 02:29:05 AM
Pretty lethargic game. Fulham not pressing high, so it slows down a lot when we get the ball in our backline.

I think a lot of teams will try those tactics against us this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:30:22 AM
"If you're ready for the second half of football LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM!" - I don't envisage this one catching on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 02:32:17 AM
"If you're ready for the second half of football LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM!" - I don't envisage this one catching on.

Ha! I thought exactly the same.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:32:49 AM
Emi Martinez on, along with Matty Cash, Moussa Diaby, Doug on.

Olsen, Diego, Kamara and McGinn off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 02:35:29 AM

I think a lot of teams will try those tactics against us this season.

I think this is one of the reasons we prioritised getting Torres in - the ability for a long direct pass to unlock defences out of nowhere, in combination with runs from forwards and/or speedy wingers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 02:36:23 AM
Assuming it goes ahead maybe the reasoning behind keeping Martinez on the bench is there is a large Hispanic population in Orlando so he might get a big reception when he comes on.

Might be very wide of the mark and we just fancy giving ourselves a handicap before we get going. I’m going to give it another half hour and if we’re not any clearer I’ll call it a day.

Maritnez on? A-ha! Following my unique and intense scouting of the situation that could not just have been regurgitated from both published sources and common sense, I can surmise that my insight has been shown to be valid. You are all welcome for my presence and my foresight. I surmise we will sign many Americans as a result.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 02:38:10 AM

Maritnez on? A-ha! Following my unique and intense scouting of the situation that could not just have been regurgitated from both published sources and common sense, I can surmise that my insight has been shown to be valid. You are all welcome for my presence and my foresight. I surmise we will sign many Americans as a result.

😂
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:49:15 AM
Coutinho, Revan, Ollie, Kellyman on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on July 27, 2023, 02:52:05 AM
Who's gone off?
Sorry just catching up and am at work.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on July 27, 2023, 02:53:19 AM
Hate to say it, but Archer not good enough tonight. Did himself no favors.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:53:49 AM
Fuck Konsa holding his hamstring
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:56:16 AM
Chambers coming on for Konsa. Hopefully not too serious
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 27, 2023, 02:56:59 AM
Very slow build up tonight throughout the team. None of the fluid football we saw against Newcastle.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 02:59:47 AM
Warnock who said the other day Harry Wilson had one of the best left foots in the league just missed a cracking chance with his left foot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 27, 2023, 03:00:23 AM
Get in
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 03:00:41 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS cracking goal by Diaby!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 03:01:15 AM
Diaby!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 27, 2023, 03:01:34 AM
and so it begins..!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: aldridgeboy on July 27, 2023, 03:03:27 AM
A touch of Tony Daley there. Didn’t control it properly but still smashed it home.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 27, 2023, 03:03:46 AM
Diaby! That’s the dream!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 27, 2023, 03:05:08 AM
As soon as he came on backed him as 2nd gs at 14/1. Easy!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 27, 2023, 03:06:02 AM
Amazing what a bit of pace can do for you.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 03:09:07 AM
Great save Emi
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 03:11:10 AM
Fulham bringing a 16yr old on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 03:12:42 AM
In the way we've said about other teams for years that they didn't have to go up a gear against us, I feel that about this Villa team.

It's only a pre-season friendly that doesn't matter but I reckon if we needed to we could just bang another load in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 27, 2023, 03:15:58 AM
Still really sloppy from Villa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on July 27, 2023, 03:16:35 AM
Fulham bringing a 16yr old on

Leeds did that last year in Brisbane and McGinn took him out. Think it was Eddie Grays son.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 03:17:44 AM
Just chip it Ollie?!?!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 03:19:38 AM
Hate to say it, but Archer not good enough tonight. Did himself no favors.

Do you think Watkins would have done any better in that team? To begin with we rarely had the ball. I'd prefer to judge Archer when he has quality around him and preferably the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 27, 2023, 03:22:11 AM
We’re top of the table as it stands!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 03:23:47 AM
We’re top of the table as it stands!!

Champions of the second week of the Summer Series - you'll never sing that!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 03:25:38 AM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 03:26:17 AM
Game over. Job done. Hopefully Konsa came off as a precaution. Coutinho looked out of sorts with his first action for a long time. Nobody really stood out in my opinion. Great to see Diaby’s pace and shot for his goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 03:28:16 AM
Good night, gents.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 03:29:07 AM
That pass from Doug for Diaby’s goal

*chef’s kiss
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 03:30:17 AM
Happy with that. Goals, Diaby showing promise, clean sheet, Olsen vindicated  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 03:30:45 AM
Good night, gents.

Daughter asleep with 5 minutes to go, so it was like 2 victories.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ozzjim on July 27, 2023, 03:32:43 AM
Tielemans and Doug looked OK.

We need a player in forward areas that is not about running, but can put their foot on it, pick a pass and dictate a bit. Willian was exceptional second half for them, we could really do with someone like that in the final third.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 27, 2023, 04:03:44 AM
Warnock who said the other day Harry Wilson had one of the best left foots in the league just missed a cracking chance with his left foot.

Warnock? Fair play to him being in a position to miss though at his age.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 27, 2023, 04:06:10 AM
Disjointed but job done.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 27, 2023, 05:33:51 AM
Just been woken up by the bin lorry. Was it worth it?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 27, 2023, 05:38:38 AM
Just been woken up by the bin lorry. Was it worth it?

Depends. I was up anyway and watched it as an alternative to doing any work, but I think I’d be pissed off if I couldn’t now go home to bed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 27, 2023, 05:58:05 AM
Tielemans stood out I thought, uses the ball really well, Jaden Philogene had another decent game and nice finish from Diaby. More pluses than minuses.

My son’s first game - which he loved - so that was the real highlight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 07:36:37 AM
Just been woken up by the bin lorry. Was it worth it?

Dunno, did they collect your rubbish?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 27, 2023, 07:37:27 AM
Why didn't Youri take the penalty?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 07:37:46 AM

My son’s first game - which he loved - so that was the real highlight.

Brilliant to hear Matt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 27, 2023, 07:56:30 AM
I note that Olsen kept a clean sheet during his half. Has he suddenly become good or were Fulham just shite?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 08:01:07 AM
I note that Olsen kept a clean sheet during his half. Has he suddenly become good or were Fulham just shite?

The latter. Didn’t have anything to do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 27, 2023, 08:08:04 AM
Tielemans stood out I thought, uses the ball really well, Jaden Philogene had another decent game and nice finish from Diaby. More pluses than minuses.

My son’s first game - which he loved - so that was the real highlight.

Always good to start them off with a win!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ozzjim on July 27, 2023, 08:18:34 AM
Amazing that the beeb has Brighton match report, spurs, Newcastle etc.. But nothing on Villa fulham
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dubaivillain on July 27, 2023, 08:21:39 AM
Really it’s not that amazing.  All I’m hearing about on the Beeb for the past few weeks is about how those dreadful mid table sides Spurs and Chelsea will be challenging for the top spots next season…
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 27, 2023, 08:38:04 AM
It no longer bothers me. It'll never change so fuck 'em! If we won the FA Cup we would be treated like plucky Coventry (did you know they won the FA Cup?) or if we won the PL we would be a flash in the pan fairytale story for them. Let's just keep winning and take the prizes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 27, 2023, 08:40:59 AM
How did Phil play?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Keeno on July 27, 2023, 09:42:19 AM
Tielemans stood out I thought, uses the ball really well, Jaden Philogene had another decent game and nice finish from Diaby. More pluses than minuses.

My son’s first game - which he loved - so that was the real highlight.

Glad you both enjoyed!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 27, 2023, 09:44:02 AM
Watched the brief highlights earlier. Archer seemed to rush his penalty and maybe should have done better with his other chance. I think he'll be fine though. Nice finishes for the other two though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on July 27, 2023, 09:46:49 AM
It is on the BBC Website

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66322268

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 09:51:21 AM
We've seen the best and worst of Buendia over the two games. Really good in the Newcastle game, utterly anonymous and ineffective last night.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2023, 09:53:38 AM
Just watched the highlights, some interesting stuff.

Defence looked a bit ropey! I guess it's the division of the team that deals least well with the chop-and-change inherent in friendlies. Still, yowser.

Archer, mixed time of it but his movement looked seriously good, which is the most important thing as it means you'll keep getting chances. Wasn't the worst penalty either, sometimes they get saved. Some promise there for Ollie's understudy.

Philogene took his goal well, really hope he'll save us a bundle.

Those sprung throughballs from the midfield two are pretty devastating no? Golly.

Overall, just hard to tell from friendlies, in the end. Better to win than lose though!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 27, 2023, 10:02:47 AM
Really it’s not that amazing.  All I’m hearing about on the Beeb for the past few weeks is about how those dreadful mid table sides Spurs and Chelsea will be challenging for the top spots next season…

They are still telling us how players only linked with Manure or Chelsea are so good because they do these things like kick a ball?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2023, 10:08:01 AM
Just watched the highlights, some interesting stuff.

Defence looked a bit ropey! I guess it's the division of the team that deals least well with the chop-and-change inherent in friendlies. Still, yowser.

Archer, mixed time of it but his movement looked seriously good, which is the most important thing as it means you'll keep getting chances. Wasn't the worst penalty either, sometimes they get saved. Some promise there for Ollie's understudy.

Philogene took his goal well, really hope he'll save us a bundle.

Those sprung throughballs from the midfield two are pretty devastating no? Golly.

Overall, just hard to tell from friendlies, in the end. Better to win than lose though!

Thanks for the analysis. Do you have a link to the highlights?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 27, 2023, 10:10:20 AM
Just watched the highlights, some interesting stuff.

Defence looked a bit ropey! I guess it's the division of the team that deals least well with the chop-and-change inherent in friendlies. Still, yowser.

Archer, mixed time of it but his movement looked seriously good, which is the most important thing as it means you'll keep getting chances. Wasn't the worst penalty either, sometimes they get saved. Some promise there for Ollie's understudy.

Philogene took his goal well, really hope he'll save us a bundle.

Those sprung throughballs from the midfield two are pretty devastating no? Golly.

Overall, just hard to tell from friendlies, in the end. Better to win than lose though!

Thanks for the analysis. Do you have a link to the highlights?

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: manic-road on July 27, 2023, 10:11:03 AM
How did Phil play?

He wasn't on long but showed a nice touch as you'd expect.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 27, 2023, 10:12:26 AM
It’s on the Villa FB page, Ive just watched it.

Only brief highlights but Archers movement and strength looked good in them, decent enough pen as well, just a very good save.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 27, 2023, 10:13:35 AM
I hva only seen the highlights and from those Archer looks good but I see mixed reports on here from those seen the whole game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 10:14:52 AM
It’s on the Villa FB page, Ive just watched it.

Only brief highlights but Archers movement and strength looked good in them, decent enough pen as well, just a very good save.

I thought he didn't get enough on the penalty to be honest, if you're trying to more or less pass it into the net the keeper's always got a chance if he guesses the right way.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ROBBO on July 27, 2023, 10:23:37 AM
He didn't do enough to make me think he could be our back up striker, really want him to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 10:25:42 AM
He didn't do enough to make me think he could be our back up striker, really want him to prove me wrong.

Thought the way he missed the penalty was quite Watkins-esque! ;)

His touch, strength and running in the lead up to being fouled for the penalty was top drawer I thought. When he had that second chance soon after, that he dragged wide, he seemed to go into his shell a bit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 27, 2023, 10:42:03 AM
Who is Revan? Good recovery right at the end to stop the shot on goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 10:44:02 AM
"If you're ready for the second half of football LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM!" - I don't envisage this one catching on.

In the Space Center no one can hear you scream.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2023, 10:54:57 AM
Who is Revan? Good recovery right at the end to stop the shot on goal.

Young LB. His brother Dominic was also on our books for a bit. Thought Seb looked lively when he came on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on July 27, 2023, 10:55:46 AM
He didn't do enough to make me think he could be our back up striker, really want him to prove me wrong.

Thought the way he missed the penalty was quite Watkins-esque! ;)

His touch, strength and running in the lead up to being fouled for the penalty was top drawer I thought. When he had that second chance soon after, that he dragged wide, he seemed to go into his shell a bit.

If the player hadn't fouled him for the penalty, he was shaping up to score, I reckon.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2023, 11:07:02 AM
Just watched the highlights, some interesting stuff.

Defence looked a bit ropey! I guess it's the division of the team that deals least well with the chop-and-change inherent in friendlies. Still, yowser.

Archer, mixed time of it but his movement looked seriously good, which is the most important thing as it means you'll keep getting chances. Wasn't the worst penalty either, sometimes they get saved. Some promise there for Ollie's understudy.

Philogene took his goal well, really hope he'll save us a bundle.

Those sprung throughballs from the midfield two are pretty devastating no? Golly.

Overall, just hard to tell from friendlies, in the end. Better to win than lose though!

Thanks for the analysis. Do you have a link to the highlights?



Thank you. Thought it was an excellent save, the git.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 27, 2023, 11:09:13 AM
He didn't do enough to make me think he could be our back up striker, really want him to prove me wrong.

Thought the way he missed the penalty was quite Watkins-esque! ;)

His touch, strength and running in the lead up to being fouled for the penalty was top drawer I thought. When he had that second chance soon after, that he dragged wide, he seemed to go into his shell a bit.

If the player hadn't fouled him for the penalty, he was shaping up to score, I reckon.

Was a hairs breadth of getting a second pen but stayed on his feet and pulled it wide whilst off balance as well.

If Martinez had faced and saved the penalty, I doubt we would be stating a poor penalty from the taker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 11:16:01 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7GlG7g3-FSU

Thank you. Thought it was an excellent save, the git.

Cheers Monty!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 27, 2023, 11:31:26 AM
Archer had more impact on the game than Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: chrisw1 on July 27, 2023, 11:35:10 AM
I thought the pen save was very good.  It wasn't a bad strike by Archer and that goes in most of the time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gareth on July 27, 2023, 11:36:44 AM
Archer had more impact on the game than Watkins

Which is good…we need them both to step up and compete not so much a starter and deputy but make so we are not weakened whichever starts and the other chomping to get on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gareth on July 27, 2023, 11:38:51 AM
The pen was a decent strike, whether the run up telegraphed to the keeper where it was going is a different matter.  Good save though.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithe on July 27, 2023, 11:40:09 AM
Was Tielemans on when the pen was given?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on July 27, 2023, 11:44:55 AM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 27, 2023, 11:46:23 AM
Was Tielemans on when the pen was given?

Yes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 27, 2023, 12:31:02 PM

Was a hairs breadth of getting a second pen but stayed on his feet and pulled it wide whilst off balance as well.

Yes, was just about to say, he got an ankle tap, same as the penalty, just before he took that shot. Obviously it doesn't look great on paper that your striker missed 2 clear goal opportunities, but I think he looked alright and hope he gets more opportunities in preseason.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 27, 2023, 12:56:27 PM
I was too lazy to watch the game but thought Cam's movement and pace leading to the penalty was excellent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: simon ward 50 on July 27, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Poor penalty though?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:04:32 PM
Poor penalty though?

It was in the corner. The keeper made a good save. It wasn’t a great penalty but it wasn’t a poor one.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 01:07:06 PM
I think a few nerves maybe crept in. He seemed to hurry it and was trying not to miss the target rather than just thundertwatting it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 01:09:58 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

I thought we looked far more comfortable at the back with Mings and Konsa on than Carlos and Torres. It's hard to judge the team due to the conditions, new players adapting and fitness levels, especially first half and Fulham did a job on us, very compact, reducing the space and kicking us at every opportunity. Two yellow cards in the first half says it all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 27, 2023, 01:11:12 PM
I know it depends on who is on the pitch but would Archer be the penalty taker? Others have pointed out Tielemans was there and could have taken it. There didn't look like there was much discussion around it, I think McGinn just handed him the ball, but it's a pre season friendly. Maybe someone else will he appointed for the season, even over Watkins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

I thought we looked far more comfortable at the back with Mings and Konsa on than Carlos and Torres. It's hard to judge the team due to the conditions, new players adapting and fitness levels, especially first half and Fulham did a job on us, very compact, reducing the space and kicking us at every opportunity. Two yellow cards in the first half says it all.

Not overly surprising because those two have played together for a couple of years now so have a better chemistry. Also the new pair (and I include Diego in that) had Olsen behind them. Not that Olsen did anything wrong last night but it’s night and day from the comfort of having one of the top keepers in the world directing traffic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2023, 01:20:02 PM
As an (unimportant) aside, why wasn't Emi wearing the new keeper top last night, and what was the lime green effort he was wearing?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 27, 2023, 01:24:14 PM
As an (unimportant) aside, why wasn't Emi wearing the new keeper top last night, and what was the lime green effort he was wearing?

Not sure but he didn't give it to the Fulham player who was asking for it at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: usav on July 27, 2023, 01:32:51 PM
Was Tielemans on when the pen was given?

No.  Barry was still on at that point.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 27, 2023, 03:06:52 PM
As an (unimportant) aside, why wasn't Emi wearing the new keeper top last night, and what was the lime green effort he was wearing?

Clashed with the Ref?

Maybe the away kit one? What top did Olsen wear as he isn't present in the highlights as nothing happened our end first half?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 27, 2023, 03:25:07 PM
As an (unimportant) aside, why wasn't Emi wearing the new keeper top last night, and what was the lime green effort he was wearing?

Clashed with the Ref?

Maybe the away kit one? What top did Olsen wear as he isn't present in the highlights as nothing happened our end first half?

There's 3 keepers kits visible in the changing room pics, all the same colour.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: usav on July 27, 2023, 04:43:11 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

Perhaps stinker is a little harsh, but he definitely had some "moments" last night.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 27, 2023, 04:56:43 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.

Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

Perhaps stinker is a little harsh, but he definitely had some "moments" last night.

Most players on both sides did, I think the pitch and conditions were a big factor. It's not often you see players 10minutes into the game looking like they've taken a shower in their kit.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 27, 2023, 05:09:24 PM
As an (unimportant) aside, why wasn't Emi wearing the new keeper top last night, and what was the lime green effort he was wearing?

Clashed with the Ref?

Maybe the away kit one? What top did Olsen wear as he isn't present in the highlights as nothing happened our end first half?

There's 3 keepers kits visible in the changing room pics, all the same colour.

I heard the commentator say words last night that I thought I'd never hear when he said 'Robin Olsen-A safe pair of hands'  Hasn't seen much of the current Aston Villa has he?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Oklahoma on July 27, 2023, 05:13:15 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.


Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

Perhaps stinker is a little harsh, but he definitely had some "moments" last night.

Most players on both sides did, I think the pitch and conditions were a big factor. It's not often you see players 10minutes into the game looking like they've taken a shower in their kit.

Moisture in the air.....the darker the claret, which I love!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 27, 2023, 05:28:12 PM
Humidity was pretty intense last night, even by our standards here
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 27, 2023, 05:30:56 PM
Did the weather/conditions impact on Cam's penalty? Not looking to make excuses or anything, but it did kind of look like the ball moved quite heavily after he kicked it. Maybe it was just a bad kick rather than the pitch being to blame.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2023, 05:34:43 PM
Did the weather/conditions impact on Cam's penalty? Not looking to make excuses or anything, but it did kind of look like the ball moved quite heavily after he kicked it. Maybe it was just a bad kick rather than the pitch being to blame.

not really. It wasn't the worst penalty. The keeper did well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 05:40:39 PM
Did the weather/conditions impact on Cam's penalty? Not looking to make excuses or anything, but it did kind of look like the ball moved quite heavily after he kicked it. Maybe it was just a bad kick rather than the pitch being to blame.

not really. It wasn't the worst penalty. The keeper did well.

It was a decent save on to the post and Cam's placement was good. He may have telegraphed which way he was going, and just rolled his foot over the ball as he struck it, so it lacked a bit of power.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 27, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
Felt like he rushed it a touch but it was a decent save.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2023, 05:42:10 PM
Most players on both sides did, I think the pitch and conditions were a big factor. It's not often you see players 10minutes into the game looking like they've taken a shower in their kit.

Moisture in the air.....the darker the claret, which I love!

Same here, thought the shirts looked fine last night (apart from the blue shoulder panels).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on July 27, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
As I said at stupid o’clock this morning, was the first time for a while where I thought we weren’t inspirational but had it in us to step up a gear if we had to.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 27, 2023, 06:34:17 PM
I thought the penalty was almost perfect, his placement was correct but I felt that he didn't hit it hard enough giving the keeper that split second to get down to it.  It was well saved.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 28, 2023, 06:25:46 AM
I thought the penalty was fine, was just a really good save.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 28, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
I thought the penalty was fine, was just a really good save.

I thought the same. Very good save - ground level and just the right side of the post, they’re not supposed to save those.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 28, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
Is anyone else really wanting us to win this pre-season tournament? I know it's meaningless, but I want us to have that competitive streak where we want to show we are the best at every opportunity.

Plus, if it takes off and they do it every year, I want our name to be there as the inaugural champions!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 28, 2023, 12:35:23 PM
Douglas the pick of the second half performances, I thought.


Revan looked lively.

Mings had a stinker, but only Preseason.

Lovely to see Diaby get a goal and he almost set Cammy away at one point too.
  Mings had a stinker? Are you sure?

Perhaps stinker is a little harsh, but he definitely had some "moments" last night.

Most players on both sides did, I think the pitch and conditions were a big factor. It's not often you see players 10minutes into the game looking like they've taken a shower in their kit.

Moisture in the air.....
every time I look around
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 28, 2023, 01:09:27 PM
Is anyone else really wanting us to win this pre-season tournament? I know it's meaningless, but I want us to have that competitive streak where we want to show we are the best at every opportunity.

Plus, if it takes off and they do it every year, I want our name to be there as the inaugural champions!

If we win it, it means we will win the league, if we don't, it is because we are concentrating our efforts on winning the league and friendlies don't matter.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 28, 2023, 01:50:23 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 29, 2023, 10:51:23 PM
Ramsey and possibly Buendia out of the Brentford match. Ramsey out for 2 weeks, Buendia being assessed tomorrow to see if he can play or not.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 08:45:09 AM
I hope young Ramsey doesn't turn out to be made of blancmange, it would be such a shame.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Diablo on July 30, 2023, 09:52:34 AM
Lightning permitting, is the Brentford kick off at 12pm tonight?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 09:53:46 AM
Lightning permitting, is the Brentford kick off at 12pm tonight?

No, it's this afternoon I think.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 09:54:33 AM
5pm UK time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Diablo on July 30, 2023, 09:56:59 AM
Magic! Thanks Clampy, Legion.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2023, 10:12:16 AM
Lightning permitting, is the Brentford kick off at 12pm tonight?

Correct, the Brentford game kicks off at 12pm.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 04:02:59 PM
Strange defensive selection today. Cash, Konsa, Mings and Torres.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 30, 2023, 04:06:26 PM
Cash...at left back...maybe?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 04:07:21 PM
Think so.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on July 30, 2023, 04:07:25 PM
I think Torres at LB
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: timeoutbigbar on July 30, 2023, 04:07:44 PM
Strange defensive selection today. Cash, Konsa, Mings and Torres.

Mings at left back?  Or 5 at the back and McGinn as a wing back?

Edit:  Cash at left back seems far more realistic on reflection.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
Konsa on the other side?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: john2710 on July 30, 2023, 04:09:05 PM
It'll be Torres at left back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 04:09:54 PM
Konsa on the other side?

Pau at LB looking at the twitter line up graphic.

What a strong bench we have potentially this season. Carlos, Tielemans, Digne, Bailey, Buendia, Coutinho and Archer all as likely backups, might have some games where we don't need to name two keepers.....
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 04:20:07 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/MGp4dLS/F2-Sw-Gy7-W8-AAGg-V.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MGp4dLS)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 04:22:39 PM
Strong line up
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 30, 2023, 04:34:07 PM
Philogene starts his 3rd game of the Tourney. Emery liking him or just putting him in the shop window?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on July 30, 2023, 04:35:32 PM
Similar system to when Moreno plays perhaps - Cash will push forward, remaining form a back three.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: astonvilla82 on July 30, 2023, 04:36:56 PM
Stephen Warnock still on about Martinez leaving ffs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villafirst on July 30, 2023, 04:38:44 PM
I see the thug Ben Mee is playing. Hopefully he doesn't clatter into our forwards!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 04:41:45 PM
An old couple on an advert there were dipping Doritos into cheese spread. Is that a thing?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pablo_picasso on July 30, 2023, 04:46:37 PM
Philogene starts his 3rd game of the Tourney. Emery liking him or just putting him in the shop window?

He said live on TV a bit earlier that he has done well so far & deserves to stay but they are going to have a chat about his future after these pre-season games are done.

Or something to that effect...

Im going to get my arse off the fence & state that I think he's going to stay & be a backup in the squad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT on July 30, 2023, 04:52:30 PM
Tim Howard sounds like Tony Romo.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2023, 04:52:48 PM
An old couple on an advert there were dipping Doritos into cheese spread. Is that a thing?

I hope so, sounds lovely.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 04:53:03 PM
An old couple on an advert there were dipping Doritos into cheese spread. Is that a thing?

In certain parts of the world. My Aussie cousin once served it up many moons ago. Philadelphia cheese is sold with a sauce to throw on top and served with tortilla chips. They may be even bundles together. Each to their own.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 04:53:24 PM
Philogene starts his 3rd game of the Tourney. Emery liking him or just putting him in the shop window?

I think he likes him. Emery seems to use at least 1 player who is quick and direct and moves defenders around
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 04:59:07 PM
That Brentford kit is horrible
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:04:40 PM
Good for JPB getting so much action this tour. He’s clearly been showing well in training and of course during games
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:05:19 PM
Philogene went with the wrong foot there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:05:51 PM
Could be ahead, really good build up and a great ball in by Cash.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:06:12 PM
Some of our passing is outrageous. (ly good)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:07:06 PM
All Villa so far.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 30, 2023, 05:08:00 PM
Looks like a back three when we have the ball, which then switches to a back four when we don't.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lizz on July 30, 2023, 05:09:26 PM
Penalty for Brentford.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 05:09:28 PM
I googled the line up and it says we're playing 3-1-4-2 with Cash on the right side of MF?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:09:41 PM
Bollocks pen to Brentford.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:10:03 PM
GRRR.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:10:31 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 05:10:52 PM
Oh well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:11:14 PM
never a penalty, shocking from the ref.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:11:35 PM
Piss poor positioning by Konsa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:11:36 PM
Totally against the run of play. The high line is going to be our undoing this season though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:11:39 PM
Soft penalty.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:12:02 PM
Oh well, didn’t want to win the tournament anyway!!
Mind you, looked offside and really don’t think it was a penalty
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 30, 2023, 05:12:41 PM
Caught by a ball over the top with Konsa and Mings trying to play offside in the opposition half!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:12:43 PM
Oh well, didn’t want to win the tournament anyway!!
Mind you, looked offside and really don’t think it was a penalty

He was in his own half, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:12:53 PM
Ben Mee, you parasite.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 30, 2023, 05:13:24 PM
Fucking Brentford ... always a thorn in our side
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:13:29 PM
Oh well, didn’t want to win the tournament anyway!!
Mind you, looked offside and really don’t think it was a penalty

Wasn't offside, he was in his own half. No idea what the penalty was given for though, if you give that as a foul then almost any contact between players can be given.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:14:52 PM
Another foul there from Mee.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:15:22 PM
This high line has been Sussed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:15:52 PM
What the actual fuck Ollie. Shocking miss.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:15:58 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:16:30 PM
That Watkins miss is exactly why we need a top striker
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
How did Ollie miss that???
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
Fuck me, Ollie. Jesus.
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Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Has to score there. Bad miss.
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Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:17:02 PM
Oh well, didn’t want to win the tournament anyway!!
Mind you, looked offside and really don’t think it was a penalty

Wasn't offside, he was in his own half. No idea what the penalty was given for though, if you give that as a foul then almost any contact between players can be given.
The Brentford player "earned" the penalty. Naive by Konsa. And Ollie with a heavy touch in the penalty box. Shock.
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Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 05:17:09 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

It was.
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Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:17:40 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

but where was the foul?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:17:47 PM
Oh Ollie....great pressing from SJM.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:17:52 PM
That Watkins miss is exactly why we need a top striker
Couldn't agree more.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:17:53 PM
Poor by Watkins there.
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Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:18:30 PM
Diaby also joining in with the we don’t want to score today brigade
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on July 30, 2023, 05:18:38 PM
Playing the crowd noise during the replays keeps making me think we're missing something live...
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:19:00 PM
Playing the crowd noise during the replays keeps making me think we're missing something live...

I was just thinking the same, it's really confusing.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:19:04 PM
Only been watching two minutes and putting crowd effects on the replay is very very annoying.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:19:19 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

but where was the foul?

Konsa slid in, missed the ball, and the Brentford player fell over. It was always going to be given, and we'd expect it if it was at the other end.
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Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 05:19:48 PM
Pau totally forgot he was playing left back for their goal.
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Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 05:19:59 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

Indeed, and if forwards can break your high line by running from inside their own half, maybe, just maybe, it's a tad TOO high?

In the premier league Konsa is off and out for 3 games.
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Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 05:20:32 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

but where was the foul?

Contact with the player from behind and no contact with the ball attacking player goes over, penalty. Modern football sadly.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:20:59 PM
Kamara thought we were playing Leicester again, good save by Emi.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:21:27 PM
The high line minus VAR is a risky set up if we are not perfect at it. Mostly we were after our issues early on.
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Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:22:09 PM
Kamara sloppy again there
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Post by: Somniloquism on July 30, 2023, 05:22:25 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

Indeed, and if forwards can break your high line by running from inside their own half, maybe, just maybe, it's a tad TOO high?

In the premier league Konsa is off and out for 3 games.

For one, 3 for a red is down to violent conduct.
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Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:22:30 PM
Better side. Largely controlled. Just watch the long balls.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:22:33 PM
Kamara worries me sometimes.
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Post by: UK Redsox on July 30, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
JPB with the full double barrel on the away shirt
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 05:23:43 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

Indeed, and if forwards can break your high line by running from inside their own half, maybe, just maybe, it's a tad TOO high?

In the premier league Konsa is off and out for 3 games.

For one, 3 for a red is down to violent conduct.

Is that right? I'd always imagined all reds were three games (unless for 2 yellows)
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Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:24:07 PM
0-2, lovely goal from them.  Got it all to do now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:24:21 PM
Fuck sake 2-0 down
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:24:26 PM
FFS.
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Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:24:53 PM
Great goal. Martinez had no chance.
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Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:25:10 PM
Ouch. 0-2.
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Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:25:22 PM
Looked a cast iron penalty to me, Konsa slid in at the end and got nowhere near the ball.

but where was the foul?

Contact with the player from behind and no contact with the ball attacking player goes over, penalty. Modern football sadly.

but things like that happen over and over again and get ignored. For me he's had a penalty given purely because he went off his feet, with no attempt to determine if he actually made a foul.

Now he's given a foul against Cash for making exactly he sort of challenge Mee has been making all game with any punishment. and it led to their 2nd goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:25:31 PM
Torres at left back just ain't working. Needs binning. (the idea not Torres)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:25:33 PM
Well, this is disappointingly shit.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:25:40 PM
Not really sure how we are losing this 2-0.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 05:25:43 PM
Sometimes you just have to admire.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 30, 2023, 05:25:44 PM
Bastards. They can go down next season please.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Taylor on July 30, 2023, 05:25:49 PM
The sooner Brentford f**k off back to the championship the better.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:26:13 PM
They have the measure of us. We look very edgy
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Great finish.

Not sure Pau Torres at LB is going to work in premier league v pacy players, far too square and easily beaten.

Get Digne on at half time as we haven't looked too bad otherwise.
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Post by: Garyth on July 30, 2023, 05:26:28 PM
A goal like that is wasted on a pre-season game
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Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:26:41 PM
Good finish, another goal entirely against the run of play mind.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on July 30, 2023, 05:26:46 PM
The last time I saw the ball go through the net was at the Sty in 1987.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:26:56 PM
Gave him too much room.
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Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:27:17 PM
We’re too slow moving the ball today. We had a similar situation to their second goal but, instead of shooting, we keep playing the ball backwards or sideways.
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Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 05:27:34 PM
That was a brilliant finish, but also evidence Pau is not a left-back. He stood him up and with the drop of a shoulder bought himself five yards for the shot.  He'll get murdered in the premier league defending like that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on July 30, 2023, 05:27:46 PM
Is Emery there, all I've seen is that ex member of the Scorpians in my TV every 5 fucking minutes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:28:03 PM
Not sure really why we're experimenting with a lop-sided three at the back. I know that Emery likes the unbalanced set up, but this seems a step too far.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:28:34 PM
Frank going on about exploiting our high line in the drinks break.

Good thing at least is Brentford will take points off some of our rivals, beat all of Chelsea, Spurs and Man. City in the run in last season (two of those without Toney).

Very very well run club.
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Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:28:49 PM
Fantastic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:28:58 PM
Go fuck yourselves Brentford.  Worldie from Konsa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:29:10 PM
Fuck me what a goal from Konsa!!!
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Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:29:13 PM
WHAT A GOAL!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:29:19 PM
Like in the league game last season they are moving the ball quicker going forward.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:29:29 PM
ALAN HUTTON!

KONSA!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:29:39 PM
Get innn Ezri!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 30, 2023, 05:29:46 PM
Said it before, said it again, Konsa is Beckenbaueresque sometimes!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:29:48 PM
Pick that fucker out!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2023, 05:29:54 PM
Ezri Messi.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on July 30, 2023, 05:29:58 PM
Great goal..wow..
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:30:00 PM
KONZA! With a Nii Lamptey special!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 05:30:00 PM
Not sure really why we're experimenting with a lop-sided three at the back. I know that Emery likes the unbalanced set up, but this seems a step too far.

Is not just the reverse of our normal set-up, I guess to see if it works? Normally attacking left-back and other three mostly stay back.  Today it's the attacking right-back?  Agree it's not working though!
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Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:30:06 PM
Huttonesque.
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Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
Who’s this new super fast striker/defender we have signed!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:30:17 PM
Pick that out!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:30:21 PM
Haha what a run!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:30:22 PM
That’s truly spectacular
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 30, 2023, 05:30:31 PM
Not sure really why we're experimenting with a lop-sided three at the back. I know that Emery likes the unbalanced set up, but this seems a step too far.

Because it is a friendly and sometimes they are used for experimentation?
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Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:30:33 PM
Fucking brilliant goal.

Could've got another seconds later as well.
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Post by: UK Redsox on July 30, 2023, 05:30:42 PM
The English Alan Hutton
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2023, 05:30:49 PM
 Ezri channelling Alan McInally.i
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villa Lew on July 30, 2023, 05:31:07 PM
Brilliant Ezri
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 30, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
That goal by Konsa is one you see once in a decade.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:31:29 PM
Not sure really why we're experimenting with a lop-sided three at the back. I know that Emery likes the unbalanced set up, but this seems a step too far.

This is what pre season is for.

Bit of an issue though if Digne picks up a knock at any point in next two weeks as wouldn't fancy Pau v likes of Almiron based on that goal. Would rather stick Mings there although Kons-Pau feels a little too "quiet."

As I type Konsa turns into Maradona and scores an amazing goal, this game is better than 90% of prem matches.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:31:30 PM
Good singing from the lads and lasses there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 30, 2023, 05:31:44 PM
What the fucking hell was that?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
This is better.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:31:57 PM
Not sure really why we're experimenting with a lop-sided three at the back. I know that Emery likes the unbalanced set up, but this seems a step too far.

Is not just the reverse of our normal set-up, I guess to see if it works? Normally attacking left-back and other three mostly stay back.  Today it's the attacking right-back?  Agree it's not working though!

But even with the one attacking full back, the chap sitting back at the opposite side is still a full back, just one not getting forward as much. I think if we end up playing Konsa or Torres at right or left back regularly, it won't end up being very successful.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:32:30 PM
Philogene is looking a lot more dangerous than Diaby so far.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 30, 2023, 05:32:50 PM
Stepped it up since going 2-0 down.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2023, 05:32:52 PM
https://twitter.com/Fc146311Fc/status/1685689639300902912
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:32:54 PM
2-2
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:33:18 PM
Diaby. WOW!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:33:27 PM
Never in doubt was it!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
Only seen 15 minutes of pre season but we're going to have a very very good season.

So many good options from midfield onwards and we still have Ramsey and probably one more final third signing to come back in. And Moreno added plenty going forward once settled.

Bailey and Buendia as impact subs is much more to my liking aswell.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:33:37 PM
How fucking good is Diaby?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:33:43 PM
Diaby finding some space and lovely touches.  2-2.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 05:33:44 PM
And that's what you get for £43 mil
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2023, 05:33:52 PM
Philogene is looking a lot more dangerous than Diaby so far.

Perfect time as always
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:33:54 PM
Philogene is looking a lot more dangerous than Diaby so far.

Thank me later!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:33:56 PM
Diaby!!!!!!

Cracking goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:33:58 PM
Get In.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 30, 2023, 05:34:06 PM
Good singing from the lads and lasses there.
"Fight an win" style?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:34:08 PM
DIABY!!! 2-2!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:34:20 PM
Ha ha, is that Olsen in goal for Brentford? He looks super shaky.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:34:21 PM
Through Mee's legs. Nice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 30, 2023, 05:34:23 PM
Shiiiit yeah Diaby!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 05:34:35 PM
Great goal and more than fair that we're back level.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 30, 2023, 05:34:36 PM
I had Diaby anytime again. This guy is a money printer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:34:36 PM
Deserved
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on July 30, 2023, 05:34:41 PM
Diaby baby superb...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:34:42 PM
Philogene is looking a lot more dangerous than Diaby so far.

Perfect time as always

Never fails.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 30, 2023, 05:34:57 PM
Top spin again from Diaby.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:35:16 PM
Really enjoying watching Dougie play today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:35:26 PM
Definitely deserved. Think we're the better team.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:35:28 PM
Top spin again from Diaby.

Insight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 30, 2023, 05:35:37 PM
COME DIABY LET'S GO PARTY  8)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2023, 05:35:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mudryklvl/status/1685690375447445505
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:36:35 PM
Diaby gets into lots of little spaces and pulls them around a lot.  Absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 05:37:18 PM
How does the away kit look in action?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:37:22 PM
JPB not scared to put a foot in. I think he's played himself into squad contention this pre-season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:37:32 PM
 Miles on top v a probable top 10 prem team.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:37:41 PM
Wait until we bring Watkins on at some stage.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:38:00 PM
Miles on top v a probable top 10 prem team.

We were miles on top from the off, really, got done by a penalty and a worldie.
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Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:38:27 PM
Good comeback lads
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 05:38:35 PM
GOAL!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:38:38 PM
get in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 30, 2023, 05:38:41 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lizz on July 30, 2023, 05:38:51 PM
3-2.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:38:56 PM
We are a really good side.  What a very, very good goal.  Beautiful football.  Pulled Brentford apart with three passes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:39:00 PM
LOL piece of piss this
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:39:03 PM
How does the away kit look in action?
We're playing some nice stuff right now, so we could be wearing a potato sack and it'd look good. But I think the kit looks good!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:39:04 PM
We are passing through them very well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:39:10 PM
Matttyyyyy!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 05:39:15 PM
Boom!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on July 30, 2023, 05:39:33 PM
Nice goal Matty.. Mc Ginn and Luiz very good.
UTV
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 05:39:56 PM
Superb goal from Cash but some shocking defending from Brentford
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ger Regan on July 30, 2023, 05:40:00 PM
Lovely stuff, great play for the third.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 05:40:04 PM
Did Unai tweak something after the little drinks break? We've been rampant.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:40:17 PM
Brilliant pass. We look really good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 05:40:30 PM
Deserved
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:40:30 PM
Miles on top v a probable top 10 prem team.

We were miles on top from the off, really, got done by a penalty and a worldie.

Brentford will have a decent season even without Toney. Very awkward team to play against.

Our level looks very good in pre season bar some sloppy goals conceded.

3-2. Cash with a lovely finish.
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Post by: Garyth on July 30, 2023, 05:40:39 PM
Damn, sometimes we play some slick football
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Taylor on July 30, 2023, 05:40:44 PM
Ha ha. Hilarious that the commentators focused on Franks tactical awareness at the drinks break. 10 mins later……..
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 30, 2023, 05:41:06 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:42:20 PM
We are absolutely smoking going forward
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 05:42:20 PM
Ha ha. Hilarious that the commentators focused on Franks tactical awareness at the drinks break. 10 mins later……..

Squatting there pointing at his tactics board "Allow them to pass through us at will"
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:42:40 PM
Ha ha. Hilarious that the commentators focused on Franks tactical awareness at the drinks break. 10 mins later……..

Which boiled down to hit it longer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 30, 2023, 05:42:57 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 30, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

3 at the back!

We’ve been great since Brentford’s second goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 30, 2023, 05:43:48 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

Seems to be Torres as LB and Cash as RB
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: trinityoap on July 30, 2023, 05:43:55 PM
I get the feeling not many of our games are going to end 0-0 this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on July 30, 2023, 05:44:17 PM
Torres conventional in defence, doesn't get forward though and tucks in to allow Konsa to push on. Didn't get tight enough for their second, but we've not done more than a minute or two worth of defending all half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:44:45 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

3 at the back!

We’ve been great since Brentford’s second goal.

Three at the back when we are going forward but generally 4 when defending. Torres looks accomplished although I am looking forward to Moreno coming back. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:45:15 PM
McGinn having a blinding game
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
We are absolutely smoking going forward

Makes the keeping Olsen news a bit easier to take. We'll score as many as we concede at least.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 30, 2023, 05:45:42 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

3 at the back!

We’ve been great since Brentford’s second goal.

Three at the back when we are going forward but generally 4 when defending. Torres looks accomplished although I am looking forward to Moreno coming back.

Yeah, should’ve clarified. Glad we are experimenting.. we are well and truly on top of them now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
McGinn's going to have a storming season, look at his confidence when he receives the ball now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2023, 05:46:08 PM
Not sure what Unai tweaked in the drinks break, but it's certainly working.

Demonstration of what a top coach he is?

Sees a problem.
Analyses it.
Diagnoses what's wrong.
And implements a change.

3 goals on the bounce.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 30, 2023, 05:46:09 PM
I liked how the commentators were going on about Thomas Frank’s cooling break team talk and how you couldn’t ask for better… 10 mins later, they’re losing  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:47:05 PM
Not a fan of CB's playing as FB's
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:47:09 PM
I used to really criticise Douglas Luiz.  These days he is brilliant. Really good player, good passer and makes us tick.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on July 30, 2023, 05:48:19 PM
I get the feeling not many of our games are going to end 0-0 this season.

They didn't last season under him either. TBF we only had one 0-0 all season under both managers. Just we usually lost under one and won under the other. .
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 30, 2023, 05:48:47 PM
Some of our passing and movement on and off the ball has been a delight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 05:48:54 PM
Some really slick passes in that move, would've been a great goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:49:25 PM
We have been so much the better side. This is the time to try things and we will make mistakes. But we are showing that we are getting so much better at keeping the ball, attacking in numbers and obviously have things to work on defence as we switch between systems and tactics.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:49:45 PM
Should've been 4-2, SJM should've got that on target.

So many good moves from us, can already see quality of Pau's passing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:50:26 PM
We should have had 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 05:50:57 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?
Wait till you see Konsas goal. Brilliant. Brentford just kept backing off so he just ran with it for 50 yards then smashed it in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 05:51:14 PM
I don’t think I’m getting ahead of myself when I say we’re the best attacking team in the world.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:51:17 PM
HT 3-2
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2023, 05:52:05 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

Wait till you see Konsas goal. Brilliant. Brentford just kept backing off so he just ran with it for 50 yards then smashed it in.

He probably has, thanks to PWS. Unfortunately, it also means seeing Brentford's away shirt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 05:52:50 PM
Should be 6-2 up
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 30, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
Well that was pretty good all in all. Could easily have scored another two or three as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on July 30, 2023, 05:53:19 PM
Villa by far the better team. I hope we keep phylogénétique.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: TopDeck113 on July 30, 2023, 05:53:39 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?
Wait till you see Konsas goal. Brilliant. Brentford just kept backing off so he just ran with it for 50 yards then smashed it in.

Hutton-esque!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2023, 05:53:42 PM
Cash goal

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1685692523866427392
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:54:12 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

It’s not a conventional back 4 aside from Cash. The three CB’s slide across and are somewhat interchangeable as they cover each other. I don’t see using it a lot once Moreno is back and we pick two from 4 CBs. I won’t be shocked to see Pau and Mings despite both being left sided. But given Emery knows Diego really well from his time at Sevilla it could be him on the right at some point this seals next to Torres.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:54:21 PM
It's really difficult to do when watching telly, but watch Diaby. He is never marked because of his movement.  Sits in little pockets of space.  Terrific movement, pace etc. McGinn and Luiz are real driving forces.  To think we have the likes Of Tielemans, Ramsey to come in.  Our pace and movement is great.  Upgrades on Ollie and Philomene-Bidace, not because the latter has done anything wrong, but he's young and unlikely to give us a whole season, perhaps this is why we still want the likes of Ferran Torres, Doku?

Good half to watch.  The penalty, for me, was questionnable as Konsa dived in but didn't really make a lot of contact and their second was a class finish.  Our goals have been things of beauty, ripped them to pieces. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 30, 2023, 05:54:30 PM
Some pre - season typical high scoreline but overall we seem to me a class above them IMO. No less. Mc Ginn very dominant in offensive midfield.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: taylorsworkrate on July 30, 2023, 05:54:36 PM
It's a pleasure to watch a Villa team playing with such a fluid style
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 05:56:59 PM
Tim Howard is very good on co-comms.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 30, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
 Enjoyable half that.  Look a little shaky at the back, but Brentford haven't really threatened too often.  We have moved the ball at pace throughout the half and the movement has been good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ger Regan on July 30, 2023, 05:57:24 PM
It's a bit pointless to read too much into pre-season games, but some of the attacking play is filthy
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 05:59:05 PM
Cash goal

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1685692523866427392

Very similar to the goal he scored at Leeds.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 05:59:17 PM
Konsa won the ball and just set off, never stopped until he'd walloped it into the net.  Totally unexpected and un-Konsa like.  More please Ezri.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 05:59:25 PM
I think we are going to really enjoy this season. We will always look to win playing attractive football. We won’t win them all but we will try every game. That’s all I’ve ever wanted in a manager and Villa team. For too long we have been so passive and there to make up the numbers. Even MON used to say “we will give it a go”. No, play to win and set up tactically to do that. Not roll up sleeve or socks, or we go again or look for magic. We have a manager who will work his bollocks off all week to set us up right and players who are buying into it all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2023, 05:59:36 PM
It's really difficult to do when watching telly, but watch Diaby. He is never marked because of his movement.  Sits in little pockets of space.  Terrific movement, pace etc. McGinn and Luiz are real driving forces.  To think we have the likes Of Tielemans, Ramsey to come in.  Our pace and movement is great.  Upgrades on Ollie and Philomene-Bidace, not because the latter has done anything wrong, but he's young and unlikely to give us a whole season, perhaps this is why we still want the likes of Ferran Torres, Doku?

Good half to watch.  The penalty, for me, was questionnable as Konsa dived in but didn't really make a lot of contact and their second was a class finish.  Our goals have been things of beauty, ripped them to pieces. 

Diaby genuinely reminds me of how Mane played for Liverpool, got a very similar style indeed so if he's even half the player then 40m is a bargain.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 05:59:47 PM
Tim Howard is very good on co-comms.

Is that who it is?  He's good to listen to, very tactically aware.  Far better than twats like Hinchcliffe, Smith and Goodman!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 30, 2023, 06:00:20 PM
We are becoming so good and I cannot wipe the grin off my face at times.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:02:11 PM
the ball over the top of that high line is the obvious concern going into the new season
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2023, 06:02:18 PM
Currently 28C but looks hotter there. Should be plenty of changes coming.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on July 30, 2023, 06:02:22 PM
Even at 2-0 down, I felt confident that we would score goals. The drinks break and Frank's tactics board came at a good time. They  lethargically reurned to the pitch while the Villa were ready to go.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on July 30, 2023, 06:02:30 PM
I think we are going to really enjoy this season. We will always look to win playing attractive football. We won’t win them all but we will try every game. That’s all I’ve ever wanted in a manager and Villa team. For too long we have been so passive and there to make up the numbers. Even MON used to say “we will give it a go”. No, play to win and set up tactically to do that. Not roll up sleeve or socks, or we go again or look for magic. We have a manager who will work his bollocks off all week to set us up right and players who are buying into it all.

👆🏼
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:03:19 PM
McGinn best player on the pitch so far
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 06:03:42 PM
They need to find a way to control mcGinn otherwise  it could be a bad bad day for Thomas & co.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on July 30, 2023, 06:04:15 PM
Someone posted…Thomas Frank playing chequers during the drinks break……but he’s up against a man playing chess 😂
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2023, 06:04:50 PM
 Watch how JPB and Ollie break left and right as Ezri gets to the edge of the box, pulling the defenders wide and opening up the space for him to drive into the penalty area.

Quality play by both of them.

https://twitter.com/TheSportsman/status/1685693227179929601?t=Yb9e5pL-
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 06:05:07 PM
They need to find a way to control mcGinn otherwise  it could be a bad bad day for Thomas & co.

McGinn, Kamara and Luiz have run the game between them, none of their midfielders have got close to breaking things up which is why all they've had is the long balls.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 30, 2023, 06:05:17 PM
The question now is how scrappy does the second half go. I do hope we go for it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 30, 2023, 06:05:41 PM
On recent showings, I cannot wait to get my arse into villa park this season!
We’re going to eat over half of this league for breakfast! Some of the football we’re playing is mesmerising 👌🏼
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 30, 2023, 06:06:11 PM
We controlled that from start to finish, with the Brentford goals coming against the run of play. We're setting up with 6 at the back when we need to, but we've had so much of the game that it's looked like our normal shape is with 3 at the back. More noticeable than last season, probably a combination of our command and having a centre back in the fullback area. Pau's so good technically though, you wouldn't think it's a centre back playing at fullback.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:06:20 PM
I really enjoyed that , our football at times is sublime , the passing is just liquid .

Diably is going to get 20 goals this season and still think another attacking player will come in .

Midfield looks awesome and Philigene is a bonus ,  Id like to see Coutinho on while we are playing like this to maybe get him an assist or goal for confindence .

That viagra worked in the drinks break


Love Unai
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:06:27 PM
For those of us not able to watch, what is the defensive configuration like?

Wait till you see Konsas goal. Brilliant. Brentford just kept backing off so he just ran with it for 50 yards then smashed it in.

He probably has, thanks to PWS. Unfortunately, it also means seeing Brentford's away shirt.
I hope he has. It was a stunner but the commentator on sky said Brentfords was goal of the day. I don't fkn think so!! And that Brentford shirt is an abomination.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 06:07:12 PM
I know it's preseason friendlies and everything that comes with that, but Diaby is 2 from 2 so far. If he even scored 1 in 3 in the league he'd contribute nearly twice as many as our second highest scorer last season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:07:45 PM
Konsa off for Carlos.  Only change.  Sensible not to make too many changes.  Keep with the flow we had from the first half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: UK Redsox on July 30, 2023, 06:08:27 PM
‘Alan Hutton’ trending on Xitter thanks to Konza :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:08:40 PM
its great to have 4 class center backs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2023, 06:09:26 PM
Konsa off for Carlos.  Only change.  Sensible not to make too many changes.  Keep with the flow we had from the first half.

Reckon the heat will play a part in who and when we sub players.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 06:09:32 PM
Unai's got himself a beer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 30, 2023, 06:09:37 PM
Frank's got his board out again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:10:29 PM
Comedy kick from Carlos. Someone make a meme from that!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on July 30, 2023, 06:11:14 PM
Frank's got his board out again.

Well, he hasn't really joined the dots up so far....
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: beness on July 30, 2023, 06:11:35 PM
Cash goal

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1685692523866427392
Ty for putting these out. Although I can watch todays game, I appreciate the times I cannot and you put them up. TY.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:11:43 PM
Ben Mee is such a donkey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 06:12:14 PM
It was funny how Frank was clearly insisting his team keep things very narrow, only to then watch our centre half run right through the middle of them and score.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 06:13:32 PM
Fucking hell Ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dr.chekov on July 30, 2023, 06:13:51 PM
Should have been another.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:14:06 PM
Fucking hell Ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:14:08 PM
poor again ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 06:14:14 PM
FFS Watkins!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:14:25 PM
Watkins...terrible.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:14:47 PM
Ollie! What are you doing??!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 30, 2023, 06:14:59 PM
That is typical Ollie😪
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on July 30, 2023, 06:15:10 PM
What a ball from Emi as well
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:15:23 PM
Ollie is starting to look a bit of a weak link.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 06:15:29 PM
No offence to Watkins, he's a good player, but I'd love a striker who buries that every time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on July 30, 2023, 06:16:15 PM
Martinez launching a quick counter a few times there. Nice to see now we have some pace and he’s no longer having to hold it and kill time every time he gets it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:17:03 PM
No offence to Watkins, he's a good player, but I'd love a striker who buries that every time.

Or at least gets it on target. Loads of space and time then, and skied it. Poor.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:17:55 PM
This is a lot less close than 3-2 suggests.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 06:18:06 PM
Watkins clearly lulling future opposition into a false sense of security. He'll run rampant once the league starts......
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:18:35 PM
Some look like they are beginning to tire.  Heat is obviously stifling.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 06:19:00 PM
I'd love to see Archer given a chance with this team.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:19:29 PM
Watkins puts one into the upper holte terrace view
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 30, 2023, 06:20:03 PM
Dougie is a Rolls Royce
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 06:20:22 PM
I'd love to see Archer given a chance with this team.

Same.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 06:21:07 PM
This is a lot less close than 3-2 suggests.
It's really 3-0.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 06:21:19 PM
I'd love to see Archer given a chance with this team.

Good shout - Watkins for Cam.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:21:22 PM
come on Villa

I want this  cup
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 30, 2023, 06:21:39 PM
Those goal nets haven't been put on very well!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 06:21:44 PM
Watkins puts one into the upper holte terrace view

"The Watkins Danger Terrace".
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:23:45 PM
no olsen thank fook
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:24:06 PM
we need this trophy , cant have Olsen on
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 06:24:18 PM
Watkins puts one into the upper holte terrace view

"The Watkins Danger Terrace".

Ha ha very good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:25:47 PM
I like Ollie but he’s not elite. He’s very good, runs all day but eventually we need someone more clinical. And same goes for Leon Bailey
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:26:02 PM
Lovely play from Villa, should have been another goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 30, 2023, 06:26:20 PM
I'd love to see Archer given a chance with this team.

Good shout - Watkins for Cam.

Indeed, playing this way we need more than ever a striker whose best attribute is to clinically put the ball in the net.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:26:28 PM
I like Ollie but he’s not elite. He’s very good, runs all day but eventually we need someone more clinical. And same goes for Leon Bailey


Diaby is proving that
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 06:26:29 PM
Another one Ollie should've got to.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 06:26:33 PM
What a ball from Diaby to Cash and then Ollie being ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:27:05 PM
Ollis has had an absolute shocker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rob_bridge on July 30, 2023, 06:27:38 PM
Just switched on. How has it been?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:27:48 PM
Lovely ball by Leon
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:28:11 PM
Just switched on. How has it been?

Mostly very good indeed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:28:23 PM
Problem with Ollie Watkins is his strike rate. He misses so many good chances before he eventually nets one. He needs upgrading.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 06:28:32 PM
I'd love to see Archer given a chance with this team.

Good shout - Watkins for Cam.

I don't see how Unai can judge him until he's given a fair opportunity to show what he can do. Throwing him in after 5 changes doesn't seem the best way to go. Maybe Unai doesn't rate him that highly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:28:55 PM
Love all the decidely homo-erotic descriptions of Carlos's physique we've had this series.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2023, 06:29:14 PM
That bit of play was gold standard and rusted scrap  attempt to finish it. Can't waste stuff like that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:29:46 PM
ffs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:29:48 PM
Bollocks!
Bollocks!
Get in!
FFS Ollie!
Get in!
FFS!
Get the fuck in!
WTF?
Come on you Villa Boys!

(Just catching up with the game. I had to have a lengthy siesta after making a rather delicious paella for a friends and family Sunday lunch.)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 06:29:53 PM
Fucking hell Villa.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:30:08 PM
Fuck me 3-3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:30:31 PM
Some of our play is stunning o
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 30, 2023, 06:30:34 PM
Do we get a trophy today?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:30:35 PM
FFS, talk about throwing it away.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
Paid the price for missing the chances Watkins had. FFS.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:30:51 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on July 30, 2023, 06:30:54 PM
Well if our attacking football was a person then I'd go to town on them.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:30:57 PM
Poor defending. Not picking up in the centre and a bit half hearted outside the box.  We should be miles in front and should be if Ollie wasn't playing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:30:59 PM
if you dont finish your chances

ollie


Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:31:07 PM
That's what happens when you keep missing sitters.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: enigma on July 30, 2023, 06:31:31 PM
Never mind. We are the better side out there today. We'll still win this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:31:52 PM
If Ollie had been even vaguely competent today we'd be out of sight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 06:32:05 PM
We go again..
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:32:10 PM
FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on July 30, 2023, 06:32:11 PM
I’m really liking our away kit. And the badge.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:32:21 PM
I’m sorry, I really like Ollie and love how much work he does for the team. But his finishing again is dreadful and I feel as though he’s now the weak link in our team now… we need a finisher. Archer might well be it. Dhuran might also be it… but Ollie, I don’t think is. Sadly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:32:22 PM
get the viagra out again please
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:33:12 PM
If Ollie had been even vaguely competent today we'd be out of sight.
As far as I am concerned he is not good enough for the next level, and will not take us there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:33:17 PM
If Ollie had been even vaguely competent today we'd be out of sight.

archer should be by now - he would have finished them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:34:37 PM
I think Emery is trying to play Watkins into some sort of confidence, but it doesn't appear to be working.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:35:01 PM
Both breaks they have concentrated on Brentford and Thomas Frank. Disrespectful twunts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:35:04 PM
We have to stop conceding silly goals.  Fortunately, it's pre-season and we have time to iron it out. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 06:35:06 PM
Archer isn’t a replacement for Watkins. He doesn’t do a quarter of what Watkins does. You’ll get a better finisher but we’d have to play differently
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 30, 2023, 06:35:32 PM
Id sell Ollie while his value his high   and  let the dons pick someone up from europe who can finish 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on July 30, 2023, 06:35:46 PM
such a strange game we look totally dominant yet somehow it's 3-3
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 30, 2023, 06:35:56 PM
To honest in most of these game’s defensive play has been pretty ropey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 06:36:30 PM
If Ollie had been even vaguely competent today we'd be out of sight.

archer should be by now - he would have finished them

Watkin's main strength is his positioning, he's brilliant at getting himself in the right place. Few players are better but technically he's..how can I say..got lots of room for improvement.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:36:41 PM
Both breaks they have concentrated on Brentford and Thomas Frank. Disrespectful twunts.

This and the fact that the camera only bothers picking out the Chelsea fans in the stadium despite them not being on the pitch yet.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:36:52 PM
Just watching Brentford paying with their fridge magnets. Don't they have any tablets or iPads?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 30, 2023, 06:37:39 PM
This is annoying but i must remember it is pre season, oh i hate Ben Mee
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:39:21 PM
Both breaks they have concentrated on Brentford and Thomas Frank. Disrespectful twunts.

This and the fact that the camera only bothers picking out the Chelsea fans in the stadium despite them not being on the pitch yet.
Yup.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:39:40 PM
This is annoying but i must remember it is pre season, oh I hate Ben Mee
1) Totally agree.
2) Totally agree.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
Still no Coutinho?

Spotted him!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: murgsy on July 30, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
Only watched second half but Diego looks like a starter to me
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on July 30, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
Coutinho is playing I think? #23. Unless I'm hallucinating!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
Our intensity has dropped.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 06:41:52 PM
Still no Coutinho?

him and Archer came on at the drinks break. Coutinho has had a few really nice touches since.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:43:10 PM
Brentford now looking to better side
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:43:16 PM
Still no Coutinho?

him and Archer came on at the drinks break. Coutinho has had a few really nice touches since.

Yeah, he's just been Mee'd.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: manic-road on July 30, 2023, 06:43:25 PM
Mee is still a **** i see.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
Only watched second half but Diego looks like a starter to me
I'd say the very opposite
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:43:58 PM
God I hate Ben Mee.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 06:44:07 PM
Mee really needs someone to stamp on him a few times, nasty little prick.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:44:52 PM
Ben Mee with his customary GBH. What an absolute prick he is. And the lino on the far side doesn't appear to know what offside is.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 06:45:30 PM
Not surprisingly with all the subs, but we've lost a bit of shape and intensity.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:45:38 PM
Tyrone's studs - Mee's face. Make it happen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 06:46:26 PM
Mee really needs someone to stamp on him a few times, nasty little prick.
Requires a Mings special
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 06:49:30 PM
One of ours to do an Irreversible with the fire extinguisher on Mee. ******!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 30, 2023, 06:49:50 PM
Tyrone's studs - Mee's face. Make it happen.
He just tried to do Luiz.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: malckennedy on July 30, 2023, 06:50:03 PM
Mee is such a thug of a player.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: KevinGage on July 30, 2023, 06:52:20 PM
Bailey.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on July 30, 2023, 06:53:36 PM
Cam should have laid that off just then.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 30, 2023, 06:53:41 PM
Bailey.  ::) ::) ::)
What
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 30, 2023, 06:53:59 PM
'Ambitious' by Coutinho.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flin5tone on July 30, 2023, 06:55:26 PM
Chance of silverware and looks like we've blown it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:55:39 PM
Commentator just called Ben Mee a "special player" Fuck off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on July 30, 2023, 06:56:50 PM
Commentary just called Ben Mee a "special player" Fuck off.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on July 30, 2023, 06:57:23 PM
Full time.

Lots of thoughts… at times we look world beating.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on July 30, 2023, 06:58:23 PM
Going in to a season with confidence.. feels good man!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 06:58:41 PM
Mostly good performance, sometimes brilliant.

I hope Monchi and Emery have seen that Watkins is just too flakey to be our only out-and-out senior striker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaBoy_23 on July 30, 2023, 06:58:43 PM
Chance of silverware and looks like we've blown it.

Surely you’re trolling at this point?

Plenty of positives, we look like we’re going to be a proper outfit this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2023, 06:59:03 PM
The attack looks promising. The defence won’t be this bad for any team on tour. We have some decent games left before Newcastle and hopefully a few players to make us better
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: manic-road on July 30, 2023, 06:59:17 PM
We played some lovely football in the first half before all the changes, I can't wait for the season to start. McGinns runs into space were key to how we cut through Brentford, with an onfire Watkins we would have won that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 06:59:21 PM
Better first half. 2nd, a bit disjointed and allowed Brentford back into it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on July 30, 2023, 06:59:25 PM
Bring in Harry Kane and we'll win games like that 6-2.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on July 30, 2023, 06:59:31 PM
Little disappointed in the end but, as is usual with any team, the flow goes out of the game when so many changes are made.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 06:59:57 PM
Unsurprisingly for a friendly loads of subs create disruption.

At times we looked scarily good.

Anyone else a tiny bit concerned about Diego Carlos? Doesn’t look comfortable on the ball at times.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 30, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
Things I’ve learnt today…

- Ben Mee is still a dirty cnut.
- We are very quickly becoming a very good football team.
- To make the most of this team, we need an upgrade on Ollie Watkins. Love him, love his effort, but he blows far too hot and cold…. Probably cost us this trophy with his misfiring today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on July 30, 2023, 07:01:37 PM
Little disappointed in the end but, as is usual with any team, the flow goes out of the game when so many changes are made.

Same here. A little disppointed but remain optimistic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:02:39 PM
Unsurprisingly for a friendly loads of subs create disruption.

At times we looked scarily good.

Anyone else a tiny bit concerned about Diego Carlos? Doesn’t look comfortable on the ball at times.

Not convinced by him on what I've seen so far. I think he'll be 4th choice to be honest.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 30, 2023, 07:05:44 PM
We looked good, sharp in the first half and played some lovely stuff.  The changes are always likely to disrupt.  We rarely seem to beat Brentford and it wasn't because they matched us today, it's because we gave them a couple of soft goals.  Some of our football is scintillating.  We need Ollie to sharpen up and another striker and wider forward, which I reckon Unai and Monchi are working on.  Silly goals given away but we tidied up in the last third of the season and will do the same for the coming campaign.  Really impressed with Diaby.  Our midfield in the first half was excellent and with Youri and JJ added, we look in good shape. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 07:06:37 PM
The Watkins quandary is a funny one. Archer is a big drop in overall quality, but he’d probably have scored at least one of his two chances.

Ideally you’d get someone as good as Watkins overall but with Archer’s finishing. Not sure where you’d get one that a) would be less than £80m and b) would not have Champions League suitors.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 07:07:49 PM
Unsurprisingly for a friendly loads of subs create disruption.

At times we looked scarily good.

Anyone else a tiny bit concerned about Diego Carlos? Doesn’t look comfortable on the ball at times.

Not convinced by him on what I've seen so far. I think he'll be 4th choice to be honest.

Torres makes me more nervous. I thought after his early mistake Carlos grew into the game. Neither great but then the whole defence is a bit pick 'n' mix right now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 07:08:26 PM
similar to the newcastle game , we looked the better footballing side but were too easy to score against
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 30, 2023, 07:08:36 PM
Only saw the final quarter.
Three conceded ? What's going on with the deefence ?
Coach needs to kick ass !
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 30, 2023, 07:08:47 PM
Would it be fair to say that Emery is as yet unconvinced by what Archer might offer?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 07:09:42 PM
No. He wouldn't be in his plans for the season otherwise.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 07:09:58 PM
Tim Howard has us as most impressive team in the tournament. That’s the real quiz.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:10:34 PM
Tim Howard has us as most impressive team in the tournament. That’s the real quiz.

Get Mings to chuck his boot over the stadium.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2023, 07:11:30 PM
Tim Howard has us as most impressive team in the tournament. That’s the real quiz.

Get Mings to chuck his boot over the stadium.

Then why did you say Fray Bentos?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 07:13:05 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 07:17:39 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.
Agree , they are the best CB's at the club. Defence wasn't the issue last season
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 07:19:21 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

It's not like you to find fault with a new player so quickly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 30, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
Unsurprisingly for a friendly loads of subs create disruption.

At times we looked scarily good.

Anyone else a tiny bit concerned about Diego Carlos? Doesn’t look comfortable on the ball at times.

Not convinced by him on what I've seen so far. I think he'll be 4th choice to be honest.

Torres makes me more nervous. I thought after his early mistake Carlos grew into the game. Neither great but then the whole defence is a bit pick 'n' mix right now.

I thought Torres was on a bit of a hiding to nothing at left back, but still passed it around well, i think it will take a few weeks to settle, bit like it did with Moreno. Carlos looked ok i thought, but not as comfortable on the ball as either Konsa or Mings. I think we start at Newcastle with Konsa, Mings, Digne and Cash as the back four.
The midfield is so impressive right now, the composure of Kamara and Luiz and the energy of McGinn is some combination. Diaby looks great as well.
Watkins had an off day finishing wise, but the combination play between him and Diaby was impressive.
For me the only real question for the first game is who plays on the left, Beundia, Bailey, Bidace, Coutinho or a new signing??
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 07:24:18 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
------ Luiz-  Kamara----
Diaby -- McGinn -- Buendia
------- Watkins -----------
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:28:10 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

It's not like you to find fault with a new player so quickly.

It's not like you to have a passive-agressive go at other posters for having the mildest of opinions. Oh my mistake, it's exactly like you.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Monty on July 30, 2023, 07:29:50 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
------ Luiz-  Kamara----
Diaby -- McGinn -- Buendia
------- Watkins -----------

That might be the team but it's not the setup! Don't think I've ever seen us line up in a straight 4-2-3-1 under Emery; it's an asymmetric 4-4-2, McGinn starts from the right, Buendia inside left, and Diaby will play in the Bailey second-striker role.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 07:30:17 PM
Unsurprisingly for a friendly loads of subs create disruption.

At times we looked scarily good.

Anyone else a tiny bit concerned about Diego Carlos? Doesn’t look comfortable on the ball at times.

Not convinced by him on what I've seen so far. I think he'll be 4th choice to be honest.

Torres makes me more nervous. I thought after his early mistake Carlos grew into the game. Neither great but then the whole defence is a bit pick 'n' mix right now.

I thought Torres was on a bit of a hiding to nothing at left back, but still passed it around well, i think it will take a few weeks to settle, bit like it did with Moreno. Carlos looked ok i thought, but not as comfortable on the ball as either Konsa or Mings. I think we start at Newcastle with Konsa, Mings, Digne and Cash as the back four.
The midfield is so impressive right now, the composure of Kamara and Luiz and the energy of McGinn is some combination. Diaby looks great as well.
Watkins had an off day finishing wise, but the combination play between him and Diaby was impressive.
For me the only real question for the first game is who plays on the left, Beundia, Bailey, Bidace, Coutinho or a new signing??

I agree about Torres, I recall Moreno taking a while, as you said.

Midfield we have so many options.

Watkins still absolutely frustrates me, mind.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on July 30, 2023, 07:30:53 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

I thought the same, there was one moment when he wasn't even quick enough to grab the winger's shirt, let alone beat him to the ball. Carlos is also concerning me. SJM is a monster currently and long may it continue. Just not working today for Watkins, Buendia and Coutinho. The rest of them are playing some great stuff and Diaby seems to have hit the ground running (and scoring). Think we still need another striker and a specialist RB.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:32:04 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
------ Luiz-  Kamara----
Diaby -- McGinn -- Buendia
------- Watkins -----------

Martinez

Cash Konsa Mings Digne

McGinn Luiz Kamara Philogene-Bidace

Diaby Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: N'ZMAV on July 30, 2023, 07:32:11 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
Beardsley & Cole up front.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 07:32:57 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

It's not like you to find fault with a new player so quickly.

It's not like you to have a passive-agressive go at other posters for having the mildest of opinions. Oh my mistake, it's exactly like you.

Like you do with, say Footy?

Calm down, just an observation.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 07:33:33 PM
First choice starting XI if everyone is injury free?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 30, 2023, 07:35:04 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

Agreed. On preseason showings, Mings is our #1 defender imo. Thought Konsa was suspect today until the Hutton moment, but would still start him over Diego Carlos
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 07:35:41 PM
First choice starting XI if everyone is injury free?
Martinez

Cash Konsa Mings Moreno

McGinn Luiz Kamara Ramsey

Diaby Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 07:35:46 PM
First choice starting XI if everyone is injury free?

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Moreno
Luiz
McGinn
Diaby
Kamara
Ramsey
Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 07:36:42 PM
I thought going forward, we looked great. Really quick, one touch passes, long balls from the back sometimes and well, it bodes well I think.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:38:30 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

It's not like you to find fault with a new player so quickly.

It's not like you to have a passive-agressive go at other posters for having the mildest of opinions. Oh my mistake, it's exactly like you.

Like you do with, say Footy?

Calm down, just an observation.

I do have Footy blocked but I thought I'd have a look after TV's reaction.

Fucking hell. Which one them wrote that?

This must be another Clampy then?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pablo_picasso on July 30, 2023, 07:39:06 PM
That was a game that shows why we need a new striker.

He has spells of good form, & spells like 'that'...

I like his work-rate, but to progress as a football club, we need work-rate with finishing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stubbsyandy on July 30, 2023, 07:39:14 PM
This is destined to be the most exciting team since ‘77
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 30, 2023, 07:41:14 PM
The only real observation I’ve made of Torres so far is that he does look very good on the ball. I think we’ll find out more after he’s played in the competitive games. Diaby certainly looks the business though, and so does Tielemans who I will admit to being a bit concerned about from how he’d apparently played for Leicester last season. Another superb free pick up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 07:41:25 PM
Very hard to read anything into friendlies , but Diaby already looks ten times the player Bailey is
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 07:42:36 PM
I thought Torres was supposed to be quick, didn't seem especially so today. It's still Konsa and Mings for me to start the season.

It's not like you to find fault with a new player so quickly.

It's not like you to have a passive-agressive go at other posters for having the mildest of opinions. Oh my mistake, it's exactly like you.

Like you do with, say Footy?

Calm down, just an observation.

I do have Footy blocked but I thought I'd have a look after TV's reaction.

Fucking hell. Which one them wrote that?

This must be another Clampy then?

I've blocked him. Have you?

I'm also not  finding fault with a player after his second game, in a freindly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flin5tone on July 30, 2023, 07:42:55 PM
If the Chelsea match ends in a draw , I think we win the cup?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Richard on July 30, 2023, 07:43:01 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?

Martinez

Cash
Digne
Konsa
Mings

Luiz
Kamara

McGinn
Tielemans
Diaby

Watkins

Subs Olsen, Carlos, Torres, Buendia, Bailey, Archer, Coutinho, Bidace, Chambers
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on July 30, 2023, 07:44:20 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
Beardsley & Cole up front.

McPartlin & Donnelly at the back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:44:42 PM
The only real observation I’ve made of Torres so far is that he does look very good on the ball. I think we’ll find out more after he’s played in the competitive games. Diaby certainly looks the business though, and so does Tielemans who I will admit to being a bit concerned about from how he’d apparently played for Leicester last season. Another superb free pick up.


Tielemans looks much fitter already than he did for Leicester at any point last season. My friend who's mates with Iheanacho said that the atmosphrere under Brenda was toxic and a lot of the senior players had stopped playing for him. Which isn't great, but then you could say the same about our team under Gerrard if the Fulham game was anything to go by.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smirker on July 30, 2023, 07:46:30 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?

Martinez

Cash
Digne
Konsa
Mings

Luiz
Kamara

McGinn
Tielemans
Diaby

Watkins

Subs Olsen, Costa, Torres, Buendia, Bailey, Archer, Coutinho, Bidace, Chambers

Costa?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:46:33 PM

I've blocked him. Have you?

I'm also not  finding fault with a player after his second game, in a freindly.

You're unpleasantly weird and obsessed with criticising other posters, and it's why so many people have called you out on it over the years. I'll leave it there before I get told off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 30, 2023, 07:47:00 PM
Yeah true. Anyway, he shows no signs of surlyness at the moment and he’s a fine player. I have a feeling he’ll be in against Newcastle even though no one else has picked him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: brontebilly on July 30, 2023, 07:47:27 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
------ Luiz-  Kamara----
Diaby -- McGinn -- Buendia
------- Watkins -----------

That might be the team but it's not the setup! Don't think I've ever seen us line up in a straight 4-2-3-1 under Emery; it's an asymmetric 4-4-2, McGinn starts from the right, Buendia inside left, and Diaby will play in the Bailey second-striker role.

When Buendia played there last season he tended to leave the left back behind him high and dry. Think he will move into a 10 spot next to Watkins and hold Diaby in reserve. Has Aaron Ramsey made much impression so far in pre season? Wouldn't be surprised if Emery fudged it a bit to get Tielemans into the team.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Richard on July 30, 2023, 07:50:26 PM
Anyone willing to predict a starting line up for Newcastle yet?

Martinez

Cash
Digne
Konsa
Mings

Luiz
Kamara

McGinn
Tielemans
Diaby

Watkins

Subs Olsen, Costa, Torres, Buendia, Bailey, Archer, Coutinho, Bidace, Chambers

Costa?

Oops corrected 😬 ó
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on July 30, 2023, 07:52:40 PM
Watching the way we move the ball, it reminds me of what one of the posters on here said. Basically that his friend was a Celtic fan and when Emery's PSG went there in the Champions League, the quality of play was incredible.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 07:53:55 PM
It's hard to judge on pre season games though. Players are getting use to a system the manager wants, players who haven't played over here before are getting used to the pace of the game etc. I'm sure Torres for example will be fine. I bet Kamara found the pace of our game a bit much at first, it happens.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 07:59:21 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 08:02:09 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.

I'd agree with that, he's a better fit to replace what JJ offers than Buendia is.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clark W Griswold on July 30, 2023, 08:02:41 PM
I’d go with;
Martinez
Cash
Digne
Konsa
Mings
Luiz
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Diaby
Watkins

Konsa and Mings should not be messed about with at this point as they’re doing well but I do see a potentially better player in Torres than both and Diego Carlos can’t be ruled out either so they’ll have to keep playing at least as well as they did second half of the season. It’s a good position to be in, and it’s also good to have Ramsey who can come in for McGinn or Tielemans with no real drop in quality. I’m still wondering if he need another forward of some sort as for me, the only ones without question marks at the moment are Watkins and Diaby.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 30, 2023, 08:06:05 PM
People are entitled to their opinions. Personally I think it’s premature to be raising questions on capability of new players. But if other people want to that’s their call.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 08:08:21 PM

I've blocked him. Have you?

I'm also not  finding fault with a player after his second game, in a freindly.

You're unpleasantly weird and obsessed with criticising other posters, and it's why so many people have called you out on it over the years. I'll leave it there before I get told off.

I've heard worse about you but yes, let's leave it there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 30, 2023, 08:09:14 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.

I'd agree with that, he's a better fit to replace what JJ offers than Buendia is.

Yup, Buendia is much better in the centre ideally playing a deep 10 where he has more space to thread balls through.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 08:09:30 PM
People are entitled to their opinions. Personally I think it’s premature to be raising questions on capability of new players. But if other people want to that’s their call.

I don't think anybody has though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on July 30, 2023, 08:11:24 PM
What I like about the "who will start our first league game" conversations, is that the possible permutations are about as wide as I can ever remember them being?  Two people could pick their strongest 11, and the overlap might only be four or five players.  The relative strengths of those two elevens won't be wildly different.  We have as much strength in depth as we've had in a long time, and if we did manage to bring in genuine competition for Watkins and Cash, our squad would be as healthy as anyone in the top 6.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 30, 2023, 08:11:39 PM
Short of an injury, I don't think there's any way Unai doesn't start Torres in the first game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 30, 2023, 08:16:58 PM
I wouldn’t like to try and pick the 11 at the moment .
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 08:17:27 PM
The midfield, for me, has to be McGinn, Luiz, and Diaby. The fact we can then chose from Tielemans, Buendia, Bailey, Kamara, Ramsey, Philogene, maybe even Coutinhio for the other 1/2 spots in the starting 11 seems like really healthy shape to be in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2023, 08:21:00 PM
I wouldn’t like to try and pick the 11 at the moment .

I think today was close. Maybe Digne in the back four and Kamara but yep, it's going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 30, 2023, 08:27:08 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Did look like a promising one today,  not more than that IMO.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 08:37:49 PM
I wouldn’t like to try and pick the 11 at the moment .
Don't worry mate, you won't have to  ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 08:39:19 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Did well again today, BUT did miss those two volleys albeit they were tough chances
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 08:44:11 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Did well again today, BUT did miss those two volleys albeit they were tough chances

They were much tougher than the Watkins chances, especially the one literally handed to him on a plate.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on July 30, 2023, 08:44:28 PM
If the Chelsea match ends in a draw , I think we win the cup?
Small time. Not worth worrying about our kid.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 08:46:05 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Did well again today, BUT did miss those two volleys albeit they were tough chances

They were much tougher than the Watkins chances, especially the one literally handed to him on a plate.
100% Watkins had an absolute stinker today.
Bidace for me is now well ahead of Bailey , tremendous prospect
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2023, 08:46:34 PM
Chelsea are winning 2-0 anyway.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 30, 2023, 08:46:59 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.
Did well again today, BUT did miss those two volleys albeit they were tough chances

I don't think there are many players in the world that would've done significantly better with his chances today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 30, 2023, 08:52:21 PM
Today first halt we was good I thought. Second half was a bit MEH from both teams. The 3 at the back very good first half. Carlos and Chambers did ok as did Digne. Kamara had a good game. Diaby our best forward already. Watkins as last season  nearly an attack on his own but miss most of the times when he should hav scored - might be a mental factor. I think Bailey is better than others on here seems to think. PC isnt good enough ATM.
How I would like the the Team for the season as it stands:
Martinez, Konsa , Mings, Torres, Moreno (Digne), Kamara, Luiz, Mc Ginn, Ramsey (Buendia), Diaby, Watkins.
Bench: Olsen, Chambers, Carlos, Digne, Tielemans, DenDoncker, Bailey, Buendia
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 30, 2023, 08:54:12 PM
I wouldn’t like to try and pick the 11 at the moment .
Don't worry mate, you won't have to  ;)

Phew , I meant just on here 😳😃
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 30, 2023, 08:56:54 PM
Today first halt we was good I thought. Second half was a bit MEH from both teams. The 3 at the back very good first half. Carlos and Chambers did ok as did Digne. Kamara had a good game. Diaby our best forward already. Watkins as last season  nearly an attack on his own but miss most of the times when he should hav scored - might be a mental factor. I think Bailey is better than others on here seems to think. PC isnt good enough ATM.
How I would like the the Team for the season as it stands:
Martinez, Konsa , Mings, Torres, Moreno (Digne), Kamara, Luiz, Mc Ginn, Ramsey (Buendia), Diaby, Watkins.
Bench: Olsen, Chambers, Carlos, Digne, Tielemans, DenDoncker, Bailey, Buendia

Cash isn’t in your squad at all? I thought he was excellent today.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 08:58:50 PM
there isn't a first XI , it will be opponent and game plan dependent. Dendonker not featured at all though despite being there , is he injured?
Its hard to read much into these games when players aren't putting proper challenges in other than that ****** Mee who was out to mame someone again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 30, 2023, 08:58:59 PM
Short of an injury, I don't think there's any way Unai doesn't start Torres in the first game.

He might get minutes but can’t see him starting unless in the next two preseason games he’s outstanding. He was okay today but disappointingly there was no evidence of any great pace we were told about. We also looked stronger with Mings and Konsa. Understandable as they know each other inside out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Luffbralion on July 30, 2023, 09:01:57 PM
A comfortable work out and some real positives, especially our crisp, quick passing through the middle (just after Tim Howard had said we needed to go wide!). I also don't think that Brentford will hit too many screamers like the second goal and the shot that came off the bar for their third.

I thought Emi M's distribution was varied and accurate (lovely ball for Diaby). Carlos got some minutes; patience will be needed as he recovers from a serious injury. I thought Cash did well as an "advanced right back" but doubt he will get that much room in the Prem. Lastly is that the same John McGinn who looked so drained of confidence and effectiveness under the previous manager? Captain Marvel.

Can't wait for the new season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 30, 2023, 09:02:07 PM
there isn't a first XI , it will be opponent and game plan dependent. Dendonker not featured at all though despite being there , is he injured?
Its hard to read much into these games when players aren't putting proper challenges in other than that ****** Mee who was out to mame someone again

He’s not there is he, his wife has just had a baby donker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 09:02:18 PM
Short of an injury, I don't think there's any way Unai doesn't start Torres in the first game.

He might get minutes but can’t see him starting unless in the next two preseason games he’s outstanding. He was okay today but disappointingly there was no evidence of any great pace we were told about. We also looked stronger with Mings and Konsa. Understandable as they know each other inside out.
Agree. No way Torres goes ahead of Mings/Konsa and today he looked ok but was a CB playing at LB which i'm not sure about, got caught a couple of times for pace but also looked excellent with the ball at his feet
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2023, 09:09:04 PM
there isn't a first XI , it will be opponent and game plan dependent. Dendonker not featured at all though despite being there , is he injured?
Its hard to read much into these games when players aren't putting proper challenges in other than that ****** Mee who was out to mame someone again


Dendoncker isn't there, he's in Brum having just become a father.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 30, 2023, 09:11:02 PM
ok cheers i thought someone had said Dendoncker flew out there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 09:16:45 PM
Today first halt we was good I thought. Second half was a bit MEH from both teams. The 3 at the back very good first half. Carlos and Chambers did ok as did Digne. Kamara had a good game. Diaby our best forward already. Watkins as last season  nearly an attack on his own but miss most of the times when he should hav scored - might be a mental factor. I think Bailey is better than others on here seems to think. PC isnt good enough ATM.
How I would like the the Team for the season as it stands:
Martinez, Konsa , Mings, Torres, Moreno (Digne), Kamara, Luiz, Mc Ginn, Ramsey (Buendia), Diaby, Watkins.
Bench: Olsen, Chambers, Carlos, Digne, Tielemans, DenDoncker, Bailey, Buendia


No Cash or Archer?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 30, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
I see now that there is a Last place on the Bench and then that will be for Cash and then it s not place on the bench for more players. As it stands Archer will be third choiche striker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2023, 09:44:21 PM
Who is second for you?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on July 30, 2023, 09:48:11 PM
Who is second for you?
Diaby, I guess he can play the Watkins role if Watkins get injuried fx. Today I got it like Diaby was playing as a second striker behind Watkins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pablo_picasso on July 30, 2023, 10:28:42 PM
If Philogene-Bidace keeps this pre-season form up he'll be hard to ignore. I thought he had absolutely no chance whatsoever of making it with us, but has looked very good indeed. Full of attacking intent and puts a decent amount of hard work in as well. I can well see him taking Ramsey's spot until JJ is fit again.

His tracking back was good to see...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: newryvillain on July 30, 2023, 10:46:54 PM
Today first halt we was good I thought. Second half was a bit MEH from both teams. The 3 at the back very good first half. Carlos and Chambers did ok as did Digne. Kamara had a good game. Diaby our best forward already. Watkins as last season  nearly an attack on his own but miss most of the times when he should hav scored - might be a mental factor. I think Bailey is better than others on here seems to think. PC isnt good enough ATM.
How I would like the the Team for the season as it stands:
Martinez, Konsa , Mings, Torres, Moreno (Digne), Kamara, Luiz, Mc Ginn, Ramsey (Buendia), Diaby, Watkins.
Bench: Olsen, Chambers, Carlos, Digne, Tielemans, DenDoncker, Bailey, Buendia


No Cash or Archer?

Or JPB?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 30, 2023, 11:23:00 PM
IT was interesting to see a different formation in the game earlier.  Thought we looked pretty sharp and moved the ball well until understandably losing momentum when we made a lot of changes. 

I thought Torres looked a bit out of place a few times at left back, which is understandable given that he is a centre half.  I thought Diaby looked lively and took his goal well.  Tielemans slotted in nicely when he came on and looked comfortable in midfield.

Thought the others all did pretty well by and large, but Ollie Watkins wasted three good opportunities and Buendia looked a bit out of sorts when he came on.  Thought Cotinho looked rusty, which is only to be expected.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on July 30, 2023, 11:39:45 PM
Thought the others all did pretty well by and large, but Ollie Watkins wasted three good opportunities and Buendia looked a bit out of sorts when he came on.  Thought Cotinho looked rusty, which is only to be expected.

Buendia was an injury doubt for todays game. Emery said yesterday that he would be assessed this morning, so possibly he was a bit out of sorts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2023, 12:40:39 AM
Have to say John Townley has been really good in how he’s covered us on this tour

https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1685795898154987521?s=46
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on July 31, 2023, 01:10:07 AM
Short of an injury, I don't think there's any way Unai doesn't start Torres in the first game.

Exactly what I think. I think it will be the same starting line up as today apart from JPB swapping for Buendia (as he had fun against Newcastle) and I think only making the one change at half time compared to all the other preseason games suggests he may have been sticking with his 'preferred' line up for longer. That could be bollocks, just a hunch.

So:

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Torres

McGinn
Kamara
Luiz
Buendia

Diaby
Watkins

I wouldn't have Torres there personally but I think that's what he'll do.

I think what will be interesting is what happens when Moreno is fit. I think it's possible he creates that 3 at the back effect but with Konsa at RB, switching which side we have the attacking fullback on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 31, 2023, 07:29:07 AM
Have to say John Townley has been really good in how he’s covered us on this tour

https://twitter.com/johntownley11/status/1685795898154987521?s=46

Yes he quite good and knowledgeable, a lit more so that old Ashley Preece his predecessor
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 31, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
Is there a skytv link to some highlights of the Brentford game?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 31, 2023, 09:49:03 AM
Is there a skytv link to some highlights of the Brentford game?

There should be a repeat of the whole game at some point, just had a quick look on my telly but I can’t find it at the moment. Hoping someone a bit more clued up than me can give a heads up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lsvilla on July 31, 2023, 10:01:38 AM
Is there a skytv link to some highlights of the Brentford game?

There should be a repeat of the whole game at some point, just had a quick look on my telly but I can’t find it at the moment. Hoping someone a bit more clued up than me can give a heads up.
It's on now. 402 on sky. Edit. And then again at 7pm tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 31, 2023, 10:02:54 AM
First choice starting XI if everyone is injury free?

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Moreno
Luiz
McGinn
Diaby
Kamara
Coutinho
Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on July 31, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
2 pre season games left. Practice for our European expedition.

Then in a month's time, we'll already have played 3 league games, 1 European and be preparing for the second leg of our Conference game in the evening.

Bring it on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on July 31, 2023, 10:08:41 AM
Is there a skytv link to some highlights of the Brentford game?

There should be a repeat of the whole game at some point, just had a quick look on my telly but I can’t find it at the moment. Hoping someone a bit more clued up than me can give a heads up.
It's on now. 402 on sky. Edit. And then again at 7pm tonight.
thanks, guys. I'm just on my way back from France so will try and watch at 7pm.
Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 31, 2023, 10:20:11 AM
Is there a skytv link to some highlights of the Brentford game?

There should be a repeat of the whole game at some point, just had a quick look on my telly but I can’t find it at the moment. Hoping someone a bit more clued up than me can give a heads up.
It's on now. 402 on sky. Edit. And then again at 7pm tonight.

Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 31, 2023, 11:36:19 AM
First choice starting XI if everyone is injury free?

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Moreno
Luiz
McGinn
Diaby
Kamara
Coutinho
Watkins

I thought Coutinho looked a bit off the pace when he came on yesterday (understandable as he is just coming back).  Wouldn't be my choice, but can see the starting XI from yesterday being the one that starts the season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 31, 2023, 11:54:46 AM
I'd like the defence to be alot tighter for the Lazio and Valencia games . The ease at times that Newcastle and Brentford went through us (ball over the top) was a slight concern
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on July 31, 2023, 01:18:59 PM
I'd like the defence to be alot tighter for the Lazio and Valencia games . The ease at times that Newcastle and Brentford went through us (ball over the top) was a slight concern

New Mail reported was saying that Emery isn't concerned with leaking a few goals while we're trying new things out, and pointed to the goals we shipped against Leicester, Arsenal and Man City before going on a solid run
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 31, 2023, 01:58:52 PM
I'd like the defence to be alot tighter for the Lazio and Valencia games . The ease at times that Newcastle and Brentford went through us (ball over the top) was a slight concern

New Mail reported was saying that Emery isn't concerned with leaking a few goals while we're trying new things out, and pointed to the goals we shipped against Leicester, Arsenal and Man City before going on a solid run

Sounds right, that's exactly what we should be using these games for.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 31, 2023, 02:10:06 PM
Spot on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 31, 2023, 02:13:38 PM
It's far more useful to have a 3-3 draw against decent opposition as you try something different and errors are made than it is to twat some Swedish part time side 10-0 like we used to back in the day.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on July 31, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
It's far more useful to have a 3-3 draw against decent opposition as you try something different and errors are made than it is to twat some Swedish part time side 10-0 like we used to back in the day.

a couple of games like that are ok to start though, when it's all about minutes in the legs. This summer we've gone to the other end and out of 6 only Walsall could count as an easy run out and that fixture is pretty much sacrosanct.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 31, 2023, 03:58:38 PM
was it David O'Leary who kept taking us on a tour of Swedish pub teams
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 31, 2023, 07:40:34 PM
It's far more useful to have a 3-3 draw against decent opposition as you try something different and errors are made than it is to twat some Swedish part time side 10-0 like we used to back in the day.

Indeed. Lazio will be no pushover though they've sold Sergej Milinković-Savić for €40m to the Oil League. They've still got some quality players and it will be a good test.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Si on July 31, 2023, 07:43:20 PM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations for parking would be appreciated. Cheers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on July 31, 2023, 07:44:52 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 31, 2023, 07:52:02 PM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations

Dress in flares and platforms.

Tie your scarf around your wrist.

Point at planes and shout BIG METAL BIRD IN SKY.

Eat scratchings.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 31, 2023, 07:53:50 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.

Return. Find car on bricks. Remember who gave advice.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Si on July 31, 2023, 08:04:40 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.

Return. Find car on bricks. Remember who gave advice.
Is it really that bad,  think I'll get my mate to drive. Lol
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 31, 2023, 08:06:07 PM
there was still a few corporate tickets left last week for Lazio and they were roughly £65 . Not sure what you get for that
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villan For Life on July 31, 2023, 08:11:58 PM
there was still a few corporate tickets left last week for Lazio and they were roughly £65 . Not sure what you get for that

Half of Walsall, a pint of mild and as much faggots and gray payz as you can eat.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on July 31, 2023, 08:15:09 PM
there was still a few corporate tickets left last week for Lazio and they were roughly £65 . Not sure what you get for that

Half of Walsall, a pint of mild and as much faggots and gray payz as you can eat.
the gentrification of football is completed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 31, 2023, 09:09:30 PM
there was still a few corporate tickets left last week for Lazio and they were roughly £65 . Not sure what you get for that

An extra large bag of scratchings and no pigeon shite on your seat, be grateful.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 31, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.

Return. Find car on bricks. Remember who gave advice.
Is it really that bad,  think I'll get my mate to drive. Lol

It's not that bad but just allow for the Legion Factor.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on July 31, 2023, 10:23:38 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.

Return. Find car on bricks. Remember who gave advice.
Is it really that bad,  think I'll get my mate to drive. Lol

It's not that bad but just allow for the Legion Factor.

Legion will supply the bricks?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 31, 2023, 10:48:21 PM
Park up outside Joseph Leckie School then walk.

Return. Find car on bricks. Remember who gave advice.
Is it really that bad,  think I'll get my mate to drive. Lol

It's not that bad but just allow for the Legion Factor.

Legion will supply the bricks?

He'll drop them on his foot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on July 31, 2023, 11:44:07 PM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations for parking would be appreciated. Cheers.

Turn into Alexandra Road off Broadway West.  Follow the road down and it branches into a couple of other roads.  Should be spaces down there and it's only a couple of minutes walk to Bescot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on August 01, 2023, 07:22:12 AM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations

Dress in flares and platforms.

Tie your scarf around your wrist.

Point at planes and shout BIG METAL BIRD IN SKY.

Eat scratchings.

I thought that said ear scratchings for a minute.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scratchins on August 01, 2023, 07:41:11 AM
You can park at the ground for £7 but it can take an hour to get out. There is a decent bar for home fans ie us and we have always been made to feel welcome.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Si on August 01, 2023, 05:20:32 PM
You can park at the ground for £7 but it can take an hour to get out. There is a decent bar for home fans ie us and we have always been made to feel welcome.
Cheers appreciate the info
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Si on August 01, 2023, 05:21:44 PM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations for parking would be appreciated. Cheers.

Turn into Alexandra Road off Broadway West.  Follow the road down and it branches into a couple of other roads.  Should be spaces down there and it's only a couple of minutes walk to Bescot.
Cheers much appreciated
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 02, 2023, 01:51:54 PM
Big Jhonny D back in training today. Hopefully see him play in the last couple of warm up games
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on August 02, 2023, 01:54:03 PM
Big Jhonny D back in training today. Hopefully see him play in the last couple of warm up games

I'd love him and Archer to come on and score a couple of great goals and be supersubs.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 03, 2023, 10:39:12 AM
I'm going to the Lazio match Thursday, I've never been to Bescott. Any recommendations for parking would be appreciated. Cheers.

For the Walsall game last season I just parked in the train station car park opposite the ground which was free, might need to get there reasonably early though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 10:55:19 AM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 11:08:04 AM
I guess the pitch is still recovering
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 03, 2023, 11:10:37 AM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?

We wanted to show those fascists what a real big, square self-storage facility with no windows next to a motorway ought to look like.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 03, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?

Our pitch isn’t quite ready after all the non football stuff over the last months. It might actually be ready but the contingency plan was to use Bescot just in case.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 03, 2023, 11:44:21 AM
Anyone know how many Lazio fans are expected?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 12:05:08 PM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?

CDBWF objected to them playing at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 12:11:32 PM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?
Oh FFS, I have just arrived in Warsaw with a match ticket under my arm :'(
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 12:20:07 PM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?

Our pitch isn’t quite ready after all the non football stuff over the last months. It might actually be ready but the contingency plan was to use Bescot just in case.

Didn't we request our first league game be away too, to give the pitch that extra time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 12:30:06 PM
I missed this...why are playing Lazio in Walsall ?

We wanted to show those fascists what a real big, square self-storage facility with no windows next to a motorway ought to look like.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on August 03, 2023, 01:11:05 PM
Maybe I left it too late but I haven't been able to get a ticket for tonight. Is is a sell out?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on August 03, 2023, 01:16:28 PM
Maybe I left it too late but I haven't been able to get a ticket for tonight. Is is a sell out?
Looks like it. No longer on the website and there was something the other day saying no tickets being sold at Walsall. UTV
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 03, 2023, 01:17:28 PM
Sold out
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: simon ward 50 on August 03, 2023, 04:02:53 PM
You can always watch it on Villa TV for the sum of £4.99 :o
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaMart58 on August 03, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
Does anyone know how many Villa fans are travelling to Valencia this weekend? We sold out the initial allocation of 508 but I believe more tickets became available although not sure how many and how many were sold at it was all processed via the Valencia ticketing website.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 05:50:00 PM
I bought two tickets on the off chance I was going to go over, but can't make it, so if anybody wants them let me know.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on August 03, 2023, 05:50:40 PM
In Valencia it is warm 30 + don’t bring fleece or jumpers - good city
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on August 03, 2023, 06:35:06 PM
Olsen starts this evening.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 06:38:26 PM
Chambers at right back. I m all for it. very interesting team, not second choices except from Olsen.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: KNVillan on August 03, 2023, 06:41:27 PM
Here is the starting 11

(https://i.ibb.co/TW7prmr/IMG-0996.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TW7prmr)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 06:43:03 PM
Cpt Watkins!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on August 03, 2023, 06:43:19 PM
Pretty decent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 03, 2023, 06:48:31 PM
Mings injured?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 06:51:10 PM
I’m interested to see the shape with Bailey and Diaby in the squad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 06:55:41 PM
Had a look at Lazio s starting eleven today and their starting eleven last match last season which they won to get second place in their league. Mostly the same but four or five from their bench that time so they are also starting with their more or less best ones. Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 07:00:42 PM
Olsen starts this evening.

He will be well up for this being ex-Roma.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 07:10:31 PM
Zych?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 07:12:14 PM
A very offensive set up I would say. 4-2-4 like.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: rougegorge on August 03, 2023, 07:13:34 PM
Zych?
Young Polish keeper. Presumably there to make sure we have our quota of 2 sub keepers!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 03, 2023, 07:15:31 PM
You would have thought Dendoncker would have been in the squad if he was likely to be sticking around.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 03, 2023, 07:17:02 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 07:17:49 PM
Olsen & Bailey start  ;D think i'll walk the dogs instead
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 07:19:54 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?

Not a great feed from VillaTV, but think it's Meloni.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on August 03, 2023, 07:24:39 PM
Paid for all three games and stupidly paid for the year thing.

It’s not showing any bloody thing when I log in now.

Last time I pay for anything on that bloody site again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 03, 2023, 07:26:58 PM
Surprised this game is at The Bescot. Didn't they think that against a club of Lazio's stature they'd get a Villa Park sized crowd in? Or is the pitch still settling down or something?...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 07:31:42 PM
It's listed on the dodgy stick but no pics coming through
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2023, 07:33:45 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?
most of them.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 07:34:30 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?

Not a great feed from VillaTV, but think it's Meloni.

the quality is utter fucking shit
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 07:34:34 PM
Difficult to link back line with midfield
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 03, 2023, 07:35:34 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?


Everybody

Aye thang yew...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 03, 2023, 07:35:38 PM
It's listed on the dodgy stick but no pics coming through

It’s working on the pre season friendlies folder , but not great sound
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villalion on August 03, 2023, 07:36:14 PM
Anyone got a small river.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 03, 2023, 07:36:15 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?
most of them.

Shit...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 07:37:12 PM
Anyone PM me a stream? Mine's got Italian commentary but no picture
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 07:39:22 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?
most of them.

*standing ovation*

Very good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:39:32 PM
I've had to cough up for Villa TV.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 07:40:42 PM
It's only a fiver. It's barely worth the hassle of looking for a stream, you tightarses.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:41:22 PM
My VTV feed is decent quality, not HD but respectable.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 07:41:45 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?

Not a great feed from VillaTV, but think it's Meloni.
I have  good picture. Wasn't Meloni in Eastenders?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stevo_st on August 03, 2023, 07:43:30 PM
Where is the option to buy the match pass on VillaTV?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:43:35 PM
Penalty to us
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:43:37 PM
Penalty!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 07:43:38 PM
Pen to us
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:43:59 PM
Watkins to take
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 07:44:04 PM
That's so clearly a penalty we should have been awarded two.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:44:19 PM
Where is the option to buy the match pass on VillaTV?

If you scroll down a bit, it lists the Villa-Lazio game, I went through that. Then from AVFC.co.uk, there's a Villa TV link at the top.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:44:24 PM
FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 07:44:32 PM
Ollie FFS
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:44:32 PM
Watkins. Oh dear.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 07:44:38 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 07:44:45 PM
He needs 3 more to score
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 07:45:00 PM
That's a bold challenge.


Poor penalty from Ollie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:45:03 PM
Straight down the middle to the keeper's legs
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:45:15 PM
Abysmal penalty.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:45:57 PM
I don't know who we have who has the composure to take a penalty. Maybe Diaby?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:46:08 PM
Tieleman hits bar
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:46:17 PM
Ooh unlucky Tielemans, rocket.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:46:19 PM
Teiemens fucking off the bar, floor and out!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 07:46:24 PM
That's so clearly a penalty we should have been awarded two.

Shame we weren't.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:46:45 PM
Bailey beat a man.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 03, 2023, 07:47:13 PM
Nice link up play between Bailey and Diaby there.

After a very poor pen. Again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 07:47:15 PM
The build up to the Tielemans chance was excellent between Bailey and Diaby.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 03, 2023, 07:47:26 PM
Watkins is Haaland one week, Agbonlahor the next :D
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:47:33 PM
What was that Leon?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 03, 2023, 07:47:36 PM
Lovely move in the build up to hitting the "woodwork".
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Aldridge Villa on August 03, 2023, 07:48:20 PM
I trust the good thing to come out of Ollie’s miss will be that he’ll never be tasked with penalty taking again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 07:48:21 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.

telemans should take them , I have  no confidence in Watkins
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 07:48:27 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Yes. Unai needs to sort this before 12 August
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 07:48:38 PM
Watkins scared of going  for goal and keeps passing it back
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 07:48:49 PM
Watkins is Haaland one week, Agbonlahor the next :D

I wish so, so much! Gabby in his pomp was better than Watkins now, I think. As much of a waster he ended up being.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:49:15 PM
Watkins is Haaland one week, Agbonlahor the next :D

He was Balaban last week! ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 07:49:27 PM
What was that Leon?
That would look great  when he's at Al Ettifaq.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 07:49:45 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.

Tielemans should take them , I have  no confidence in Watkins

Agreed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:49:58 PM
This isn't Lazio, it's Lapworth Cubs.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 07:50:07 PM
Thanks for the PMs. The 'only a fiver' bunch can jog on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 07:50:44 PM
Lazio look tired, I think they have been at Ikea all afternoon.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:50:45 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Yes. Unai needs to sort this before 12 August

He's dreadful at them, always looks like he's missed before he's even stepped up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
Only early but Chambers has looked good so far, played some good passes and been solid.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Border villan on August 03, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Any flowing water.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 07:52:57 PM
How long have Lazio been back from their holidays? They look rusted.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:53:55 PM
Diaby looks a massive upgrade on Bailey to be honest.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2023, 07:54:19 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Tielemans takes penalties pretty well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 07:54:56 PM
Thanks for the PMs. The 'only a fiver' bunch can jog on.

Ffs, I paid for it because I couldn’t find anything!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:55:00 PM
Any flowing water.
It's only a fiver!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 07:56:17 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Yes. Unai needs to sort this before 12 August

He's dreadful at them, always looks like he's missed before he's even stepped up.

You're both being too polite. I don't ever recall us having a penalty taker this bad that gets so many opportunities. He clearly doesn't practice them because how on earth is he still this bad?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Border villan on August 03, 2023, 07:56:44 PM
For the working class …… that’s A DISGRACE.

If only Wilma had copyrighted that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 03, 2023, 07:57:22 PM
Evening all. Are there any trickles around please?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 07:57:46 PM
Any flowing water.

very dry ..   blame global warming
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 07:59:46 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Df7cMMM/vtv.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4RjvSSS)
My fiver gets this quality. Although I would have been happy with a lesser free one.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 07:59:51 PM
Fuck me, we need a new pen taker.
Yes. Unai needs to sort this before 12 August

He's dreadful at them, always looks like he's missed before he's even stepped up.

You're both being too polite. I don't ever recall us having a penalty taker this bad that gets so many opportunities. He clearly doesn't practice them because how on earth is he still this bad?

Clampy gets upset though if people get too vociferous, and we wouldn't want that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
Good game this, nice to see us doing well against a different style from the usual Premier League teams.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:03:32 PM
Unai still teaching the subs during the match.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:03:56 PM
I like Chambers but I really hope he's not a permanent Cash back up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2023, 08:03:56 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:04:18 PM
Unai still teaching the subs during the match.
Maybe he could give Watkins a quick penalty course.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:04:39 PM
I like Chambers but I really hope he's not a permanent Cash back up.

Same here. His main drawback is he's just too slow.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:05:26 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

we've been very good overall from what I can tell through all the grainy feed and buffering.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:05:35 PM
Finally a decent move.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:05:57 PM
Is this Lazio's strong team or just the wankers?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:06:09 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

Decent so far. First 25 minutes we were very much on top. Should have scored with a pen from Watkins, but didn't, and Tielemans hit the bar with an absolute belter. Diaby looks good. They've been a more into it last 10 mins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 08:06:31 PM
Stream crashed
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:06:47 PM
Ollie!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:06:48 PM
Oh great goal Watkins!!
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Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:06:50 PM
Get in!
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:06:58 PM
Typical Ollie
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Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:07:00 PM
He scores when he wants
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Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:07:01 PM
Brilliant goal by Ollie
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Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:07:09 PM
Stream crashed
Mine didn't. Paid a fiver ;-)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2023, 08:07:17 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

Decent so far. First 25 minutes we were very much on top. Should have scored with a pen from Watkins, but didn't, and Tielemans hit the bar with an absolute belter. Diaby looks good. They've been a more into it last 10 mins.

Cheers Ris
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Post by: N'ZMAV on August 03, 2023, 08:07:18 PM
I thought Watkins was crap? ;)
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Post by: LeeB on August 03, 2023, 08:07:20 PM
Proper centre forward
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Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:08:01 PM
Great ball from Tielemans. He's been quality as well.
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Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:08:02 PM
Great goal.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:08:11 PM
Trademark Watkins goal.
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Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:08:13 PM
well done ollie. great run and a well taken opportunity. excellent ball through as well!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:08:13 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

Decent so far. First 25 minutes we were very much on top. Should have scored with a pen from Watkins, but didn't, and Tielemans hit the bar with an absolute belter. Diaby looks good. They've been a more into it last 10 mins.

Cheers Ris
I would add that Lazio are shite though.
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Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:08:37 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.
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Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:08:51 PM
That Lazio kit is great.
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Post by: Nev on August 03, 2023, 08:09:10 PM
Lovely through ball.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
Is this Lazio's strong team or just the wankers?

This is their starting line up. No idea if this is their strongest side

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2n8dXuXQAUHyo4?format=jpg&name=large)
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Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:09:57 PM
Nice to see Lazio still respecting Covid social distancing.
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Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:10:08 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

Decent so far. First 25 minutes we were very much on top. Should have scored with a pen from Watkins, but didn't, and Tielemans hit the bar with an absolute belter. Diaby looks good. They've been a more into it last 10 mins.

Cheers Ris
I would add that Lazio are shite though.

We've made them shite, they can't cope with our movement which means they're all out of position when they win the ball back and we're pressing them before they can get in shape.
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Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 08:10:20 PM

This is their starting line up. No idea if this is their strongest side

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2n8dXuXQAUHyo4?format=jpg&name=large)

#17's movement has been terrible
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Post by: Ads on August 03, 2023, 08:10:28 PM
How are we getting on build up wise?

Decent so far. First 25 minutes we were very much on top. Should have scored with a pen from Watkins, but didn't, and Tielemans hit the bar with an absolute belter. Diaby looks good. They've been a more into it last 10 mins.

Cheers Ris
I would add that Lazio are shite though.

That hasn't usually been a barrier to us cocking up pre-Emery.
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Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:10:38 PM
Olsen, fucking hell.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
Great play Olsen
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 08:10:58 PM
italian clubs are usually a fair way behind ours in their pre-seasons.
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Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:11:07 PM
Is this Lazio's strong team or just the wankers?

This is their starting line up. No idea if this is their strongest side

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2n8dXuXQAUHyo4?format=jpg&name=large)
Not with a basic player in the team, it's not.
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Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:11:15 PM
Olsen, wtf..?!
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Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:11:36 PM
Olsen

Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:11:39 PM
Is this Lazio's strong team or just the wankers?

This is their starting line up. No idea if this is their strongest side

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2n8dXuXQAUHyo4?format=jpg&name=large)
Not with a basic player in the team, it's not.

Or an immobile player.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:11:47 PM
I must say, while we're not talking about it, that I haven't heard anything about effing xG since the end of last season, and the world is a better place for it.
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Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:12:02 PM
Nearly two then
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:12:14 PM
Ufff close
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Post by: Nev on August 03, 2023, 08:12:19 PM
Whoomph, there it is.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:12:23 PM
That would have been a superb goal by Buendia. Just wide
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Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:12:25 PM
Unlucky Emi, great effort.
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Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:12:58 PM
Buendia is looking good.
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Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:13:00 PM
That would have been a superb goal by Buendia. Just wide

He looks stronger this pre-season.
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Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:13:11 PM
italian clubs are usually a fair way behind ours in their pre-seasons.

they start on the 19th so only 1 week after us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:13:14 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:14:22 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.
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Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
Buendia needs to calm down, it’s just a friendly
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Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:15:30 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

We must be watching different games, the one I'm watching we could be 3 or 4 up and Olsen has had about 4-5 touches all half.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 03, 2023, 08:15:30 PM
What did Olsen do/not do?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:15:57 PM
That would have been a superb goal by Buendia. Just wide

He looks stronger this pre-season.

He does. Obviously this environment makes all players want to work harder but it's likely dawned on him he'll be on the outside looking in given the kinds of players we will be going after.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:16:13 PM
What did Olsen do/not do?

Usual pass straight to a Lazio player in the area.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:16:30 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
What did Olsen do/not do?
Passed the ball directly to a lazio player when not under pressure
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:16:43 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 08:17:25 PM
Who is this on co-commentary?
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Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 08:17:56 PM
Chambers playing well
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 08:18:29 PM
That Lazio kit is great.

We would like it though. ;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on August 03, 2023, 08:19:00 PM
What did Olsen do/not do?

Thanks Martin, Edvard.
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Post by: mrfuse on August 03, 2023, 08:19:05 PM
Tielemans looks quality alongside Kamara.

What a quality midfield we have.
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Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:19:23 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.

No idea how you could draw that conclusion. We were all over them, should've been 3 or 4.
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Post by: Border villan on August 03, 2023, 08:19:39 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
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Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:19:56 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/VChPCcC/lazio-trousers.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1XpwXtX)
Spot the Italian.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 08:20:04 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.

No idea how you could draw that conclusion. We were all over then, should've been 3 or 4.

I think Mark is just having a bit of a menopausal moment there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:21:04 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
Rudy Can't Fail
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:21:21 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

We must be watching different games, the one I'm watching we could be 3 or 4 up and Olsen has had about 4-5 touches all half.

We've had the chances and fortunately the defence looks solid but they move the ball around very well. It's been a good test for us so far.
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Post by: Border villan on August 03, 2023, 08:21:57 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
Rudy Can't Fail

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 08:22:30 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
Rudy Can't Fail

Cheers.

Strictly speaking, Rudy (sic) Can't Fail.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 08:24:29 PM
Mark K. does demand quality football (quite right so) as demonstrated in his signature.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:24:34 PM
I just looked on a Lazio forum’s match thread and they seem to think they’re on top
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:24:44 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.

No idea how you could draw that conclusion. We were all over then, should've been 3 or 4.

I think Mark is just having a bit of a menopausal moment there.

It seems I'm the only one to have outgrown puberty.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
Rudy Can't Fail

Cheers.

Strictly speaking, Rudy (sic) Can't Fail.
Well spotted! I'd never noticed that before.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:25:23 PM
Just can't concentrate on the game knowing that Tom Daiy or whatever his name is, has invested in The Blues. Awful news for us, we're rattled. Apparently.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 08:25:23 PM
I just looked on a Lazio forum’s match thread and they seem to think they’re on top

Not on the one I'm looking at they're not, they're pretty pessimistic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 03, 2023, 08:27:06 PM
Our build-up play has been sensational, I think Diaby's pace and positional sense is causing Lazio big problems and we should be further ahead.

Olsen doing an Olsen. My goodness he's crap. Not Buendia's best half either despite the nice turn and shot at the end. Watkins blowing hot and cold and Bailey not really impactful.

Edit : typo
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:28:04 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?
Rudy Can't Fail

Cheers.

Strictly speaking, Rudy (sic) Can't Fail.
Well spotted! I'd never noticed that before.


A tribute to the great Villa centre forward. Those were the days!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 08:28:44 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

Who is RCF?

Rudy Can't Fail

See, I read that as a reference to the 'Who's Dan Bardell?' riff, but it was actually a genuine question. ??? 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on August 03, 2023, 08:29:05 PM
I know its just pre-seaon and that, Diaby looks like he's going to be a right player for us.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:29:19 PM
Torres best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt. looks a lot more comfortable tonight.
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Post by: passport1 on August 03, 2023, 08:31:33 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.

Are you also watching it without your glasses.
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Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 08:31:47 PM
- Chambers can play as ´a proper RB, liked all what i ve seen from him there except he will struggle against a pacy winger one to one so that must not be let happen, hope he stays there instead og whoever we have at the moment to play there.
- Pau have some high level class and will get his place in front of Mings, unfair to Mings as he is one of the better CB s in the League but Pau will just edge it IMO.
- Tielemans as good as Luiz maybe, how strong we are in that position. The goal was Pau - Tielemans - Watkins - pang - goal.
- If Emery dosent take Watkins off penalty duty it will be his first flaw as a manager for us ... maybe ..
:)
- all of ours playing ok or good against decent opinion IMO except Olsen s nearly given them a goal
UTV
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Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2023, 08:32:28 PM
Torres best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt. looks a lot more comfortable tonight.
maybe more the pace he's used to?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 03, 2023, 08:32:34 PM
We look like we’ve stepped it up another notch this preseason. That midfield is especially formidable now (even on the bench!), and I’d say a match for anything in our league.

Exciting times around the corner!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 03, 2023, 08:32:39 PM
I hope Risso isn't watching the same stream as me as they're playing smooth jazz waiting for the 2nd half to start :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:32:53 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!
And Mateus Rose is so cheap at RCF's local shop.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 08:33:39 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

If he is watching with no commentary and seeing things differently then anyone else, could it be one of those fake FIFA23 enacted streams?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
Thinking back to the start of the game. I seem to remember a round of "Who the fucking hell are you? I despair sometimes. I know it's football but FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:34:55 PM
They're passing it about ok but there's no cutting edge to any of it, we've held our shape well in defence, we've pressed them really well when it was on, we've kept possession and recycled played nicely and, again when it's been on, we've opened them up.

I can see why someone would say they've looked neat and tidy but we've bene easily the better team on almost every measure that matters.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:34:59 PM
Tielemans has got a foot like a traction engine.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:35:02 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!

If he is watching with no commentary and seeing things differently then anyone else, could it be one of those fake FIFA23 enacted streams?
If he used the same awful limoncello recipe as SWMBO did last year then it could be affecting his judgement.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:35:27 PM
We've been excellent so far, completely outclassing them.

Really? They pass the ball around so comfortably. I look forward to the day we can do that on a consistent basis. They're counter attacking and getting offside at every opportunity but for the first 30 minutes I didn't think we'd turned up.

Hmmm, are you watching the right match Mark? They did fuck all and for 15 minutes we were camped in their half.

I'm watching with no commentary. I call it as I see it. I thought we were really slow to get going.

Are you also watching it without your glasses.

When did you start being funny?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:35:30 PM
Lazio look like they’ve had a kick up the arse at half time
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 08:36:01 PM
RCF has been on the limoncello!
And Mateus Rose is so cheap at RCF's local shop.

Been drinking cider in The PortosMan
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:36:14 PM
Tielemans has got a foot like a traction engine.

Lovely move. Deserved a goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:36:47 PM
Lazio do play some lovely stuff, especially in those nice shirts...bloody fascists! (just thought I should say that at the end)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on August 03, 2023, 08:37:11 PM
Who is on the right wing for Lazio ?

Not a great feed from VillaTV, but think it's Meloni.

OK honey. D'you know it actually is though?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:38:56 PM
Subs?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:39:24 PM
Thinking back to the start of the game. I seem to remember a round of "Who the fucking hell are you? I despair sometimes. I know it's football but FFS!

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 08:39:41 PM
Tielemans  ,  could be the signing of the summer . 


Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:40:18 PM
They're passing it about ok but there's no cutting edge to any of it, we've held our shape well in defence, we've pressed them really well when it was on, we've kept possession and recycled played nicely and, again when it's been on, we've opened them up.

I can see why someone would say they've looked neat and tidy but we've bene easily the better team on almost every measure that matters.

Probably because it took us 30 minutes to put a decent move together. Up until then it was very huff and puff.
We've started this half much better.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 08:40:22 PM
Thinking back to the start of the game. I seem to remember a round of "Who the fucking hell are you? I despair sometimes. I know it's football but FFS!

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

It's a bit tougher there when Juve are bribing their way to the title.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 08:40:38 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2023, 08:41:16 PM
Tielemans  ,  could be the signing of the summer .
Agree, he had some great moments with the crisp munchers and I think we'll see the best of him
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:41:17 PM
Lovely play
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:41:28 PM
Subs?

Loads of em.

think we're now:

Olsen

Cash
Digne
Mings
Chambers

Tielemans
Luiz

Philogene
McGinn
Coutinho

Archer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:41:30 PM
⬅️ Konsa, Pau, Kamara, Bailey, Buendía , Diaby, Watkins

➡️ Cash, Mings, Douglas Luiz, Philogene, Coutinho, McGinn, Archer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:41:32 PM
Great move all started by our Robin.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:41:35 PM
Somebody tell Olsen that socks over knees should only be worn by players supremely confident in their own abilities, like Thierry Henry.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:42:03 PM
edit
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: KNVillan on August 03, 2023, 08:42:29 PM
Subs?

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1687185114835378177?s=61&t=0hDYp8sAC4KCDeo1iQp4OQ
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:42:48 PM
Goalll
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:42:53 PM
What. A Fucking. Goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:42:54 PM
McGinnio!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:42:58 PM
What a gosi
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: cdward on August 03, 2023, 08:43:20 PM
Jed Steer on co-commentary
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 03, 2023, 08:43:26 PM
Beauty, ball from youri, touch from cash, what a finish
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:43:33 PM
That was just sensational from start to finish.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:43:41 PM
screamer from SJM, but what a game Tielemans has had
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:43:42 PM
he must have a foot like a traction engine
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:43:45 PM
Tielemans been awesome
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:44:02 PM
Brilliant goal, and well deserved, even with all the changes we've carried on playing in a very similar way.

Touch from Cash to set it up was class.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 03, 2023, 08:44:04 PM
We're playing some great stuff and lovely finish by SJM.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:44:17 PM
That touch from Cash, HOW DO YOU LIKE THOSE ONIONS EAMONN???!!!!11111

;)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 08:44:51 PM
That was just sensational from start to finish.

Roy of the Rovers stuff.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:45:04 PM
I feel for the Italian fans. Turn up for a friendly. Get funeralled (notwithstanding Mark's analysis) and have the delights of Walsall to finish the evening off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:45:35 PM
Our midfield is GOOD.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 08:45:39 PM
screamer from SJM, but what a game Tielemans has had

I'm starting worry he will do a Nilis in his third PL game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:45:41 PM
Brilliant goal, and well deserved, even with all the changes we've carried on playing in a very similar way.



There are some extremely positive signs that we've got 20 players who can all just slot in nicely, and still Ramsey and Moreno to come back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
Any good pizzerias in Walsall?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Border villan on August 03, 2023, 08:46:34 PM
Loads of bad ones.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:46:35 PM
Close from Phil there - very good save tbf
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 08:47:17 PM
Our midfield is GOOD.
It's bloody impressive and so many options
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:47:33 PM
Coutinho is having a great game so far.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:47:56 PM
this bodes so well for our upcoming European campaign
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on August 03, 2023, 08:48:02 PM
screamer from SJM, but what a game Tielemans has had

I'm starting worry he will do a Nilis in his third PL game.

Stop it!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 08:48:48 PM
Score please? Working.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 03, 2023, 08:49:02 PM
Why are we wearing claret shorts? This cannot stand.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 08:49:05 PM
Our midfield is GOOD.
It's bloody impressive and so many options

When we signed Tielemans I said to a few people that I reckon we now have the 3rd best midfield in th eleague behind Man City and Arsenal and pre-season has made me sure of it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:49:05 PM
Tielemans looks like the player for Leicester 2 and 3 seasons ago. Absolute class. Unlucky crisp-munchers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on August 03, 2023, 08:49:29 PM
Score please? Working.

Winning 2-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:49:58 PM

When we signed Tielemans I said to a few people that I reckon we now have the 3rd best midfield in th eleague behind Man City and Arsenal and pre-season has made me sure of it.

Bloody misery arse!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:50:28 PM
Why are we wearing claret shorts? This cannot stand.

I wondered that, especially when Lazio have dark shorts anyway.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:51:08 PM
OOOh, Phil, wonderful play.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 08:51:26 PM
He’s a beautiful player in full flow
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 08:51:35 PM
Score please? Working.

Winning 2-0

Ta Dave
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ger Regan on August 03, 2023, 08:51:43 PM
Coutinho looking lively, great effort
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 03, 2023, 08:51:52 PM
how can I watch this?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 03, 2023, 08:52:13 PM
Whisper it, but we might be seeing Phil getting back to his old self
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 08:52:37 PM
No.23 looking a bit of a prospect.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 08:53:04 PM
Since when did Douglas Luiz have his full name on the shirt
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 08:53:14 PM
how can I watch this?
Have you got a fiver?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 08:53:26 PM
how can I watch this?

PM'd
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 03, 2023, 08:53:43 PM
how can I watch this?
Have you got a fiver?
Yeah Im minted - fivers for days?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:53:51 PM
I like the look of the little Brazilian lad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 03, 2023, 08:54:04 PM
Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 08:54:21 PM
Since when did Douglas Luiz have his full name on the shirt

Always.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 03, 2023, 08:57:22 PM
Olsen did ok there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 08:57:30 PM
⬅️ Digne, Tielemans

➡️ Revan, Kellyman
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:57:50 PM
The Lazio number 5 is a litterer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 08:58:47 PM
Olsen did ok there
good keeper, solid, reliable, great with feet and commands the area.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 03, 2023, 08:59:19 PM
I'm so pleased we might fit in one more good season before BCFC become a world super power.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on August 03, 2023, 08:59:51 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 03, 2023, 09:00:18 PM
The Lazio number 5 is a litterer.
What's a litterer?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:00:32 PM
I'm so pleased we might fit in one more good season before BCFC become a world super power.

If only we carried the name of the city. We can only dream of having Tim Bradley as a minority owner.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 09:01:43 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:01:54 PM
It's very pleasant with no VAR and the ref not trying to be a celebrity.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 09:02:31 PM
I'm so pleased we might fit in one more good season before BCFC become a world super power.

If only we carried the name of the city. We can only dream of having Tim Bradley as a minority owner.

Should be Ray Bradbury the amount of fiction being spewed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 09:03:08 PM
Who scored our goals please?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:04:00 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:04:06 PM
Who scored our goals please?

Watkins and McGinn
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 09:04:10 PM
The Lazio number 5 is a litterer.
What's a litterer?
He  just threw away his white band on the pitch and walked off when subbed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 09:04:18 PM
Who scored our goals please?

Ollie and McGinn
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
Who scored our goals please?
Watkins and McGinn.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:04:44 PM
The Lazio number 5 is a litterer.
What's a litterer?

Someone who can't read
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on August 03, 2023, 09:04:58 PM
Who scored our goals please?

Watkins and McGinn.  Watkins missed a penalty earlier.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 09:05:07 PM
phil always seems good against the better teams . play him against the crap , he drops to that level.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 09:05:17 PM
I think Olsen is pushing Emi for a starting position
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 09:05:58 PM
That touch from Cash, HOW DO YOU LIKE THOSE ONIONS EAMONN???!!!!11111

;)

I'm glad that he a) reads H&V and b) holds me in such esteem that he's keen to prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:06:05 PM
Would Olsen take better penalties than Watkins, is the real question.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 03, 2023, 09:06:55 PM
Chambers has passed the ball very well
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:07:59 PM
Chambers has passed the ball very well

Was just thinking that. He looks better in the centre than he does at right back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 09:08:31 PM
I think Olsen is pushing Emi for a starting position
Totally agree Edvard. It's great having two number 1s.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:08:42 PM
Niggly bunch of twats, Lazio.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:10:20 PM
Would Olsen take better penalties than Watkins, is the real question.

Probably. He could aim down the middle and hit the corner. Might not be the corner of the net mind you.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
Chambers has passed the ball very well

great squad player to be fair 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 09:11:12 PM
Chambers has passed the ball very well

Was just thinking that. He looks better in the centre than he does at right back.

Over pre-season I think he's played well at CB, DM and RB. Yes his pace means he could get targeted at full back sometimes but as an option to add some versatility I think he's well worth a place in the squad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 03, 2023, 09:11:36 PM
Olsen did ok there
good keeper, solid, reliable, great with feet and commands the area.
cross between gordon banks and that scorpion kick fella I reckon
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:11:54 PM
Gooooal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: London Villan on August 03, 2023, 09:11:59 PM
No Bert or Donk again. Both off?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:12:00 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:12:00 PM
Seb!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 09:12:11 PM
Far right own goal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:12:15 PM
Hahaha Lazio are shit. 3-0
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on August 03, 2023, 09:13:13 PM
Lazio are the new Walsall..
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 09:13:38 PM
Brilliant build up play there, had them chasing shadows until we opened a fucking huge gap for Revan and then his ball across was exactly where you want it played.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:13:58 PM
Fuck me have we ever looked good tonight. Don’t want to get carried away here but we have a manager who won’t be satisfied by this. So it’s going to get better and more consistent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:14:02 PM
Runners up to Napoli in Seria A you say?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 09:14:02 PM
Glad that went in as Archer was standing on the penalty spot unmarked waiting for the pass.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:14:27 PM
Lazio are the new Walsall..

Worse. Walsall drew with us.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 09:14:44 PM
Runners up to Napoli in Seria A you say?
Where they no 2 last season 🤯
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Fucking hell Olsen
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:15:00 PM
No Bert or Donk again. Both off?

Donk's been on paternity leave for most (all?) of preseason? Not sure if he's staying or going but I wasn't expecting to see him feature in any of the preseason games.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:15:27 PM
Countinho absolutely clattered. Fucking ******
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:15:34 PM
No need for a challenge like that with three minutes to go, dirty fascists
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
Dirty challenge on Phil there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
That's a red in the leauge for me, awful challenge.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: villadelph on August 03, 2023, 09:16:16 PM
fascist scumbags. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 03, 2023, 09:16:23 PM
Fucking hell Olsen


he should have fucking hell on the back of his shirt , the amount of people who call him that on here
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:16:53 PM
In a funny way it was actually good to see Phil get clattered. Need to see he can take a tackle, even if it was a nasty one.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:17:19 PM
Olsen's played the full 90 then?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:17:32 PM
That's a red in the leauge for me, awful challenge.

Yep, two footed out of control. Straight red, violent conduct, 3 match ban. Twat.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:17:43 PM
We don't need this fascist groove Mings.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:18:09 PM
Good use of £4.99
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on August 03, 2023, 09:18:23 PM
Chambers has passed the ball very well

Was just thinking that. He looks better in the centre than he does at right back.

Over pre-season I think he's played well at CB, DM and RB. Yes his pace means he could get targeted at full back sometimes but as an option to add some versatility I think he's well worth a place in the squad.

Is Chambers any good in goal? Just asking.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:19:00 PM
That was absolutely excellent. We've been really good offensively all pre-season but that was the best defensive display as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 09:19:08 PM
That's a red in the leauge for me, awful challenge.

Absolutely disgusting challenge. I was so pleased to see him get up after that. Utter scumbag.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2023, 09:19:13 PM
Pretty sure the commentator just said Lazio finished second in La Liga.

That would be quite the achievement.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:19:37 PM
"Fuck the Blues!"
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2023, 09:20:00 PM
We don't need this fascist groove Mings.
Didn't swap shirt with any player 💪
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pete3206 on August 03, 2023, 09:20:04 PM
Enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:20:17 PM
Pretty sure the commentator just said Lazio finished second in La Liga.

That would be quite the achievement.



Also said that the penalty miss was unlike Ollie Watkins.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Villa Lew on August 03, 2023, 09:20:36 PM
3rd own goal?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 09:20:41 PM
Who scored our goals please?

Watkins and McGinn.  Watkins missed a penalty earlier.

He has to be off penalties, surely.  Misses far to many.  Nice to see him amongst the goals again though, wasn't great against Brentford.

Did Coutinho survive the assault?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 03, 2023, 09:20:57 PM
It's all coming together nicely. Excited for the season to start.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:20:59 PM
That was absolutely excellent. We've been really good offensively all pre-season but that was the best defensive display as well.

Absolutely superb. From start to finish. I know we need to temper expectations, it is pre season etc etc, but we knocked the ball around with ease all game and finished our chances really well. Should have won by 4 or 5
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:21:17 PM
Interesting to see Digne playing - long way from Riyadh.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2023, 09:21:33 PM
3rd own goal?

Yeh. Don’t think the cross was going in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 09:22:04 PM
Good use of £4.99

That's the way to help grow our commercial revenue. Good man!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 03, 2023, 09:22:08 PM
Brilliant performance, obviously it's only pre-season but if we play football even close to that this season we'll be well in the mix for the champions league spots. Our midfield options are scarily good given what they cost, Doug and Tielemans together in some games is going to be beautiful.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 03, 2023, 09:22:11 PM
We've had a great pre-season™ but I wonder if we need time to gel©
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 09:22:32 PM
For those of us who couldn't watch, any chance of seeing the goals and having a match report, pretty please?  Sounds like we played well from reading this thread?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 03, 2023, 09:23:12 PM
Good use of £4.99

That's the way to help grow our commercial revenue. Good man!

I like to think I’m personally to thank for Diaby
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nelly on August 03, 2023, 09:23:44 PM
Decent! We didn't have quite the control we had after Teilemens went off, but we played some good stuff throughout. I guess Lazio are further behind their preparation than we are, but we looked good, calm, interested, making opportunities. Can't wait to play them competitively.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 09:24:15 PM
Since when did Douglas Luiz have his full name on the shirt
Only since he joined us. Before that it was just Lu.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 03, 2023, 09:24:31 PM
Well it's a long drive home for the Lazio fans.
All roads lead to Rome, but they all go via the Ray Hall interchange.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
Only a friendly, but that's going to make a few people sit up and take notice around Europe.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 09:25:38 PM
Emery is going to have a bit of a headache after that game. So many players looking good. Wasn't expecting Coutinho to come back and play like that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 09:26:08 PM
3rd own goal?
Yeh. Don’t think the cross was going in.
Kellyman would have tapped it in if the defender had missed it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 03, 2023, 09:26:14 PM
- PC did show promising signs
- Chambers up to it even as RCB
- Olsen aint that bad
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 09:27:00 PM
For those of us who couldn't watch, any chance of seeing the goals and having a match report, pretty please?  Sounds like we played well from reading this thread?

Watkins Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687179823183974400 (From Rudy's stream it is so slow mo

 Mcginn Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687194150079225856 (from fan in good line for it

Haven't found Revan's/ the OG.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2023, 09:27:46 PM
Well it's a long drive home for the Lazio fans.
All roads lead to Rome, but they all go via the Ray Hall interchange.
Well they know what to do. When in Walsall....
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 03, 2023, 09:29:24 PM
For those of us who couldn't watch, any chance of seeing the goals and having a match report, pretty please?  Sounds like we played well from reading this thread?

Watkins Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687179823183974400 (From Rudy's stream it is so slow mo

 Mcginn Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687194150079225856 (from fan in good line for it

Haven't found Revan's/ the OG.



Thanks mate, appreciated.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:30:38 PM
On the penalty taking issue. Given we're probably not 100% sure what our starting midfield is going to look like, it makes sense that Watkins is still the designated penalty taker. Of all the players, bar Martinez, he's the most likely to nearly always be on the pitch.

It clearly wouldn't hurt to have the entirety of our midfield options practicing penalties in training though, and eventually give the responsibility to someone else if still deemed necessary.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 09:31:47 PM
Good run out, not sure Lazio put that much into it other than a trot. But we played some nice stuff
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scovilla on August 03, 2023, 09:33:53 PM
Glad with this result. I could not watch the game. Really happy.
Thanks for all the comments.
UTV.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on August 03, 2023, 09:35:07 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 09:36:37 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!
thought what ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 03, 2023, 09:37:05 PM
Only a friendly, but that's going to make a few people sit up and take notice around Europe.

Yeah normally I wouldn’t take too much from a friendly. But there’s such an obvious structure and purpose with Emery you can tell he uses it as practice to hone our play, rather than just an exercise in building fitness. It’s a great indicator of development.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 09:38:20 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!
Quote
Golaço!

The show became well known in popular culture for a shout of Golaço!, Portuguese for "fantastic goal", featured at the start and at the end of each show. The sound clip is of Italian television football commentator José Altafini, a Brazilian who played in Serie A for AC Milan, Napoli and Juventus.

"Golaço!" was transcribed as "Golaccio!" in the show's titles. However, James Richardson later added: "I heard Steve [DuBerry] who'd produced the music for the show say he'd wanted it to sound like 'go Lazio' because of Paul Gascoigne presenting it and so had added a twist to the soundbite."

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on August 03, 2023, 09:38:29 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!
thought what ?

It was to do with Lazio.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Gerrin on August 03, 2023, 09:39:59 PM
Pretty sure the commentator just said Lazio finished second in La Liga.

That would be quite the achievement.

Yes, he definitely did. If that's the standard of commentary they have on avfc TV, glad I don’t pay for it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 09:41:17 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!

Or, people who were very young when that show was on and assumed the thing that sounded like an Italian team name, on the Italian football show, was actually the Italian team name.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on August 03, 2023, 09:57:00 PM
Good run out, not sure Lazio put that much into it other than a trot. But we played some nice stuff
judging by some of their challenges I would argue differently that they played at a trot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 03, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
Good run out, not sure Lazio put that much into it other than a trot. But we played some nice stuff
judging by some of their challenges I would argue differently that they played at a trot.

I doubt Lazio would do anything at a trot(sky).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on August 03, 2023, 09:59:11 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!

Or, people who were very young when that show was on and assumed the thing that sounded like an Italian team name, on the Italian football show, was actually the Italian team name.

I thought so.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 10:06:58 PM
Good run out, not sure Lazio put that much into it other than a trot. But we played some nice stuff
judging by some of their challenges I would argue differently that they played at a trot.
the bloke trying to wind Mings up seemed the most at it
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: cdward on August 03, 2023, 10:33:16 PM
Olsen playing the full 90 was Emery putting him under pressure and improving him. Bar the one stray pass to the opposition, he looked ok as a no. 2 keeper.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 10:36:22 PM
Olsen playing the full 90 was Emery putting him under pressure and improving him. Bar the one stray pass to the opposition, he looked ok as a no. 2 keeper.
only 1 save to make and he did it well in fairness
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 03, 2023, 10:38:42 PM
We played some great football at times, worth the £4.99 now the kids are interested. Wouldn’t have bothered just for me. Our midfield is fucking deadly - with JJ to add!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 10:41:40 PM
Revan and Kellyman look good. Like new signings almost !
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 10:43:45 PM
Brum Mail player ratings:

Tielemans - 9
Kamara, McGinn, Coutinho - 8
Nearly everyone else - 7
Olsen and late subs - 6
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: maidstonevillain on August 03, 2023, 10:52:47 PM
For those of us who couldn't watch, any chance of seeing the goals and having a match report, pretty please?  Sounds like we played well from reading this thread?



Watkins Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687179823183974400 (From Rudy's stream it is so slow mo

 Mcginn Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687194150079225856 (from fan in good line for it

Haven't found Revan's/ the OG.



Watkins. First touch was iffy. Defender should have had it.

McGinn. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 03, 2023, 11:03:47 PM
Brum Mail player ratings:

Tielemans - 9
Kamara, McGinn, Coutinho - 8
Nearly everyone else - 7
Olsen and late subs - 6

Yes, Tielemans best player on the pitch. He intercepted almost everything in the defensive third, moved it around well in the middle and played some killer passes on the attacking third. Masterful.
Couts showed some skill but his passing not always up to his usual standard, and he still didn’t look quite as fit as many of our players. Needs to improve a bit still for me. Olsen ok apart from giving them the ball once but he was barely tested to be honest.
I think Diaby is going to be a star, and playing in behind suits him well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on August 03, 2023, 11:08:22 PM

Two Italian league titles ever, they're basically Burnley, Derby or Spurs.

Most famously known for "Goooooooaaaallllllllllazioooooooo!"

Not at all. People think that was the shout but it wasn’t.

But the point is people thought it was that, hence it being famous.

Exactly.

Only thickos thought that!!!

Or, people who were very young when that show was on and assumed the thing that sounded like an Italian team name, on the Italian football show, was actually the Italian team name.

I thought so.

Point proved!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 11:09:46 PM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Small Rodent on August 03, 2023, 11:12:13 PM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

I’m loving how our midfield is forming. It’s very exciting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 03, 2023, 11:16:26 PM
Do Villa put up the full 90 to rewatch if you bought a pass, but then realised it was your wife’s birthday? Just asking for any moron that did this. Not me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on August 03, 2023, 11:20:06 PM
So striking how different players come in, different positions and they know exactly what their job is, it’s seamless.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 11:25:53 PM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on August 03, 2023, 11:33:50 PM
Went to the game earlier and it was an enjoyable evening.  Thought we took a little bit of time to get going, but once we did, we moved the ball quickly and found Diaby in pockets of space.  Thought we kept the tempo up even after all the changes in the second half and Coutinho really looked to be enjoying himself. 

From what I could tell it was the version of 4-4-2 where we play with a winger and the left sided midfielder tucks in.  Diaby looked to be in a central role off Watkins.

Olsen had very little to do, but still managed his obligatory pass straight to an opponent on the edge of our box. 

Chambers did fine at right-back, but is limited in that position - we need another option. 

The centre-halves all looked pretty comfortable, though Torres made a few stray passes into midfield in the first half. 

Digne was fine, but we need Moreno back soon to give ya another option.

I thought all of the central midfielders had good games.  Going to be difficult to pick two from Tielemans, Kamara and Luiz.

Bailey was Bailey.   

McGinn was his usual self when he came on.

Buendia looked a bit out of place on the left side.  Jacob Ramsey is going to be a big miss to start with.

Diaby got into some good positions and looked sharp on the ball. 

Ollie Watkins was his usual self and took his goal well.  We need another striker to provide competition along with Archer.

All-in-all. a very good run out.  We still need a couple of players to come in and could do with Moreno and J Ramsey coming back into the fold ASAP. 

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 11:37:33 PM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.
I thought Tielemans was a cut above anyone else . He's a notch above Luiz.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2023, 11:40:54 PM
Where was Diego Carlos tonight?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 03, 2023, 11:44:19 PM
Went to the game earlier and it was an enjoyable evening.  Thought we took a little bit of time to get going, but once we did, we moved the ball quickly and found Diaby in pockets of space.

Comments like that will only get you BE's missus recipe for dodgy limoncello.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on August 03, 2023, 11:44:35 PM
Where was Diego Carlos tonight?

Was about to ask that.  Had a quick scroll through the pages to see if it had been mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 03, 2023, 11:45:31 PM
Where was Diego Carlos tonight?
Broad Street , making most of last days of the holidays period.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2023, 11:45:53 PM
Where was Diego Carlos tonight?

Apparently he was at the ground, just not in the squad. Might have a light knock or maybe Unai's saving him for the Valencia game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 03, 2023, 11:58:59 PM


It's basically just the peno and goals. Nice movement from Coutinho before the 3rd. Ball could have been passed back to him, and then he was in loads of space outside the box when the goal went in too. I have doubts that he could do 90 minutes for us, but I hope he sticks around and plays a part this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: coreyfeldman on August 04, 2023, 03:28:00 AM
What stands out more than anything, is that Emery has players we've written off (for fairly good reason), looking like proper top level competitors.

Only a friendly of course but our system was so overwhelming tonight against a team that finished 2nd in the league. The lazio starting 11 was basically their main team.

We changed 6 players and our tactics and shape remained the same, that's elite level management

I'm excited lads
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 04, 2023, 08:04:05 AM
...and we should have won by 5 or 6, and it's not like they weren't trying, the dirty bastards.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 04, 2023, 08:09:08 AM
The real question is, what did the Italian folk think of the balti pies?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 04, 2023, 08:12:49 AM
The real question is, what did the Italian folk think of the balti pies?

And Walsall. Must have been quite the eye-opener after Rome.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 04, 2023, 08:21:00 AM
I imagine the facilities at Bescot were much better than at the dilapidated Olimpico.

Before last night lazio had played four preseason games and won them all without conceding a single goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 04, 2023, 08:22:57 AM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.
I thought Tielemans was a cut above anyone else . He's a notch above Luiz.

I was there last night and am now so excited about the start of the season.

Tielemans was outstanding last night but i wouldn’t be jumping ahead of yourself with judgement on how far he is better than Luiz on that performance. Dougie was pretty special when he came on, as Rudy says Luiz would be the first name on the team sheet  for me. I thought Kamara was excellent too. From last night, i now really wouldn’t be surprised if the three of them started against Newcastle, with McGinn and Diaby either side of Ollie.

I thought Coutinho was terrific as well and if he can play like that, he could force his way back into the team, especially for the euro games.

Ive slated him but i even thought Olsen did ok.

The only player i thought didn’t show enough was Beundia.

So many options. Whose the centre back pairing for the first game??
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 04, 2023, 08:25:44 AM
I think the back 4 against Newcastle will be Cash, Konsa, Mings and Torres.

With Torres sitting at LCB/LB and Cash getting forward on the other side
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 04, 2023, 08:29:09 AM
The Athletic suggesting a variation on a three centre back system.

   https://theathletic.com/4724125/2023/08/04/unai-emery-aston-villa-mings-torres/   (https://theathletic.com/4724125/2023/08/04/unai-emery-aston-villa-mings-torres/)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Neil Hawkes on August 04, 2023, 08:29:14 AM
For those of us who couldn't watch, any chance of seeing the goals and having a match report, pretty please?  Sounds like we played well from reading this thread?

Watkins Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687179823183974400 (From Rudy's stream it is so slow mo

 Mcginn Goal
https://twitter.com/Sh3_aw/status/1687194150079225856 (from fan in good line for it

Haven't found Revan's/ the OG.


Match highlights are on you tube
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dicedlam on August 04, 2023, 08:39:41 AM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.

Agree about Luiz. He should be the first name on the team sheet.
That midfield though! Maybe only Arsenal comes anywhere close to what we have in that department.

It was also great seeing the Coutinho shimmy once again. He has got his mojo is back!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 04, 2023, 08:42:36 AM
The real question is, what did the Italian folk think of the balti pies?

I wonder if they picked up any fashion / style tips from the locals.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: manic-road on August 04, 2023, 08:43:31 AM
Enjoyed the match last night, the midfield gelled well and Youri had a very good game. Interesting to see Bailey and Moussa start the first half, that is some serious pace to attack with.

Can't wait for the season to start because we are looking like a really good team, we are playing some really good football at the moment.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on August 04, 2023, 08:49:16 AM
I've only seen the highlights but it sounds like we played some very good stuff again. I can't remember the last time we had a midfield that didn't pick itself. It's very encouraging.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 04, 2023, 08:51:11 AM
How "in the know" is Dean Jones? I see him saying this morning that Digne and Coutinho will be allowed to leave this window. But he then goes on to say that offers have to actually come in first before we can judge where Villa stand on them. So..... sounds like a semi educated assumption rather than any actual knowledge.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 04, 2023, 09:14:23 AM
Dean Jones, who's that
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on August 04, 2023, 09:16:11 AM
Absolutely loved watching us last night. The workrate in defence and the dynamism in attack is like nothing I’ve seen before. I’ve had a shit eating grin watching all of our games this preseason.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nigel on August 04, 2023, 09:32:12 AM
Have to admit I really like the all claret version of our kit
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: chrisw1 on August 04, 2023, 09:58:11 AM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.
I thought Tielemans was a cut above anyone else . He's a notch above Luiz.
He's a good player and had a good game in a friendly.

He's done nothing yet to suggest he's a notch above Luiz.  Doug is probably our best player now and if Youri gets his peak form back and pushes him then great.  But suggesting he's a notch above Luiz is a bit daft in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on August 04, 2023, 10:01:19 AM
What stands out more than anything, is that Emery has players we've written off (for fairly good reason), looking like proper top level competitors.

Only a friendly of course but our system was so overwhelming tonight against a team that finished 2nd in the league. The lazio starting 11 was basically their main team.

We changed 6 players and our tactics and shape remained the same, that's elite level management

I'm excited lads

Fill in a couple of gaps in the squad that remain and I think you'll be right to be excited!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 04, 2023, 10:02:02 AM
Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

Luiz? He'd be the first name I'd put down on the team sheet. He was at half pace today and was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Kamara needs to get up to speed or he could be the one to lose his place to Tielemans.
I thought Tielemans was a cut above anyone else . He's a notch above Luiz.
He's a good player and had a good game in a friendly.

He's done nothing yet to suggest he's a notch above Luiz.  Doug is probably our best player now and if Youri gets his peak form back and pushes him then great.  But suggesting he's a notch above Luiz is a bit daft in my opinion.
I read that first sentence in the style of Michael Caine in Get Carter
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dave shelley on August 04, 2023, 10:02:36 AM
Dean Jones, who's that

Wasn't he the bloke that used to drive Herbie the VW Beetle?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 04, 2023, 10:06:54 AM
Have to admit I really like the all claret version of our kit
Same here. Looks class.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: cdward on August 04, 2023, 10:12:10 AM
The Chambers looped ball over the defence for Buendia, who then shaped to complete an overhead kick, but instead controlled it, brought it down, turned away from his defender and just curled his shot wide was a great move.
As has been said there were some great displays all through the team.
This Unai guy isn't bad is he.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Neil Hawkes on August 04, 2023, 10:28:30 AM
Longer match highlights - Olsen did well on that showing:

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 04, 2023, 10:28:52 AM
Not the best quality but someone's made highlights of Coutinho last night.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: simboy on August 04, 2023, 10:33:09 AM
We looked quite good I thought. The pace of the game was more Isthmian than Premiership level, which is to be expected - but there was some lovely football. Of the three supporting Watkins in the first half [Buendia, Diaby and Bailey] I would not be surprised if it was Buendia who spends more time out of the team, despite one of the best "kill, turn and shot" moves I have seen from a Villa player. He really has a temper, would have been off in a Premiership game, not sure that's so good.

Until Mings came on, in the second half we were really quiet as a team.

All the kids impressed with the possible exception of Archer although he was up against a pretty strong central defensive pairing for Lazio.  Kellyman when he came on, getting hacked down as a "welcome" but got on and looked dangerous. Philogene was sharp.

I thought we changed formations throughout the game and never looked like a player didnt understand his role in any system. McGinn for example dropped further back as we went from a 3 supporting Archer to a 4-4-2 later on.   

I think that the Conference league means we have to have a certain number of ex academy and some U23 players as well as English players? For that reason I suspect Archer Philogene and possibly Revan will be in and around the first team this season as will Chambers. No Carlos though? Has he got another injury?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 04, 2023, 10:41:46 AM
What stands out more than anything, is that Emery has players we've written off (for fairly good reason), looking like proper top level competitors.

Only a friendly of course but our system was so overwhelming tonight against a team that finished 2nd in the league. The lazio starting 11 was basically their main team.

We changed 6 players and our tactics and shape remained the same, that's elite level management

I'm excited lads

Fill in a couple of gaps in the squad that remain and I think you'll be right to be excited!
Bring in a top goalscorer and we've cracked it. That's it imo.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: chrisw1 on August 04, 2023, 10:42:43 AM
Not the best quality but someone's made highlights of Coutinho last night.


He's so good to watch when he's on form.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but if he gets fit and firing it would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 04, 2023, 10:46:32 AM
Not the best quality but someone's made highlights of Coutinho last night.


He's so good to watch when he's on form.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but if he gets fit and firing it would be fantastic.

Wouldn't it though. I said last night I'm not sure he could do 90 minutes for us, but having him, on form, as an option for even 45-60 minutes would be amazing. (I could be wrong on the 90 minutes too!)

I just hope nobody in Saudi is paying too close attention.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: papa lazarou on August 04, 2023, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley


Tielemans is a level above Luiz / Kamara but they will benefit and learn from his class

He's a good player and had a good game in a friendly.

I read that first sentence in the style of Michael Caine in Get Carter

Own up - how many of us have just tried this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: simboy on August 04, 2023, 10:54:04 AM
Not the best quality but someone's made highlights of Coutinho last night.


He's so good to watch when he's on form.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but if he gets fit and firing it would be fantastic.

Wouldn't it though. I said last night I'm not sure he could do 90 minutes for us, but having him, on form, as an option for even 45-60 minutes would be amazing. (I could be wrong on the 90 minutes too!)

I just hope nobody in Saudi is paying too close attention.

We said the same, a 20/30 minute cameo as the play slows. I cannot see him starting too many games in the league. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tomd2103 on August 04, 2023, 10:55:36 AM
Not the best quality but someone's made highlights of Coutinho last night.


He's so good to watch when he's on form.  I'm not getting my hopes up, but if he gets fit and firing it would be fantastic.

Looked like he was really enjoying himself last night. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: chrisw1 on August 04, 2023, 10:57:11 AM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us. 
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 04, 2023, 10:59:21 AM
Longer match highlights - Olsen did well on that showing:



He was ok but still managed one of his obligatory kicks straight to an opposing attacker.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 04, 2023, 11:06:37 AM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us.

Depends on opposition, I suppose. European group games, cup ties against most teams, I could see him starting. It would be just our luck that he'd come back into form just in time to secure a move to Saudi, but yeah, if the money was enough its hard to see us turning it down.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 04, 2023, 11:30:38 AM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us.

There really was something there last night, his confidence visibly grew as it went on and him and Dougie linked up really well. I still have some hope.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 04, 2023, 11:42:37 AM
has shown a few things, Archer still has a lot to do for Emery to consider giving him game time in the premiership - everyone connected with the Villa wants him to succeed as a local lad, but he is short at the moment.  Olsen not good enough to be considered as a back up keeper who may well have to play this season given the number of games potentially- just can't confidently play out from the back with him. 

Emery leaving the keeper out of it has some difficult choices for defence places with a more than capable unit.   

Right wing please no more of Bailey other than cameos off the bench.  Philogene has not done enough to convince me he's good enough sorry.

The bright spark though has to be Tielemans  - Leicester must have been poor in the other 10 positions for them to have gone down.  He's class.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: manic-road on August 04, 2023, 12:10:07 PM
Not sure I heard it right last night but it sounded like the stadium announcer said Philogene Bad Ass when he came on as a sub.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on August 04, 2023, 12:16:49 PM
Thank you for posting those longer highlights.

Really enjoyed that
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 04, 2023, 12:18:30 PM
Was that Jed Steer on co-commentary last night or did i just dream that one up
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 04, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
Thank you for posting those longer highlights.

Really enjoyed that


Highlights? I gave up when they had been showing fouls or offsides called well before a shot at goal, then showed Watkins goal without the pass from Tieleman which was tremendous. I'm guessing they worried any clips of play longer then 5 seconds would get the video flagged.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 04, 2023, 12:23:32 PM
Was that Jed Steer on co-commentary last night or did i just dream that one up

Yep, I thought he was very good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on August 04, 2023, 12:26:50 PM
Thank you for posting those longer highlights.

Really enjoyed that


Highlights? I gave up when they had been showing fouls or offsides called well before a shot at goal, then showed Watkins goal without the pass from Tieleman which was tremendous. I'm guessing they worried any clips of play longer then 5 seconds would get the video flagged.

Well, they were more enjoyable than the other set I saw this morning when I woke up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 04, 2023, 12:32:03 PM
Was that Jed Steer on co-commentary last night or did i just dream that one up

Yep, I thought he was very good.
Yeah some good insight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 04, 2023, 12:36:53 PM
Was that Jed Steer on co-commentary last night or did i just dream that one up

Last night I dreamt that Jed John Steer loved me
No Olsen, no harm, just another false alarm

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 04, 2023, 12:40:16 PM
The real question is, what did the Italian folk think of the balti pies?

And Walsall. Must have been quite the eye-opener after Rome.
Oh come on, some of Rome's areas are totally dilapidated. That big round thing has been  in a mess for a while now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 04, 2023, 12:45:39 PM
I'm wondering what team Emery will put out against Valencia. After the way Lazio tried to kick us around the pitch last night we were lucky to come away with no serious injuries. There's also the matter of who starts against the Saudis in central defence, Kamara and/or Tielemans in midfield?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 04, 2023, 12:59:05 PM
I'm wondering what team Emery will put out against Valencia. After the way Lazio tried to kick us around the pitch last night we were lucky to come away with no serious injuries. There's also the matter of who starts against the Saudis in central defence, Kamara and/or Tielemans in midfield?

I reckon:

Martinez
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
Bailey Tielemans Luiz McGinn
Diaby Watkins

I don't think that'll be far off for Newcastle either.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 04, 2023, 02:37:59 PM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us.

There really was something there last night, his confidence visibly grew as it went on and him and Dougie linked up really well. I still have some hope.


He was neat and tidy, like he always is, but there was one passage of play that made me think "Hmmm, maybe he really is up for this".  It was in the build up for the third goal, when Revan broke down the left, he absolutely bust a gut to sprint and try to offer numbers in the box.  It's little things like that, off the ball, that can sometimes tell you more about where a player's head is at.  Hopefully it was a good sign.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 04, 2023, 02:48:12 PM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us.

There really was something there last night, his confidence visibly grew as it went on and him and Dougie linked up really well. I still have some hope.


He was neat and tidy, like he always is, but there was one passage of play that made me think "Hmmm, maybe he really is up for this".  It was in the build up for the third goal, when Revan broke down the left, he absolutely bust a gut to sprint and try to offer numbers in the box.  It's little things like that, off the ball, that can sometimes tell you more about where a player's head is at.  Hopefully it was a good sign.

He visibly reacted to the fans singing his name before the free kick he almost scored from - I get the impression that after the last few years of his career he wants to be in an environment where he's wanted.  A fully fit and firing Coutinho is an asset almost any side in the world would benefit from.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 04, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
ICYDK, with a free 'digital account' at VillaTV you can watch the official extended highlights, amongst other things. Full 90 minute replays require a subscription though.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/video/
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Drummond on August 04, 2023, 03:05:14 PM
Buendia looking stronger. Bailey looking quicker and more confident in himself. Coutinho chasing and making confident runs, looking for the ball. Olsen not conceding.

All positive signs from players who have been maligned in one way or another previously. It looks good.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 04, 2023, 03:34:25 PM
At his age I'd like to think he could get fit enough to start and play a whole match.  But I'm not holding my breath.  I'd probably still take the money from Saudi if it was offered, but there's just that small chance he could be great for us.

There really was something there last night, his confidence visibly grew as it went on and him and Dougie linked up really well. I still have some hope.


He was neat and tidy, like he always is, but there was one passage of play that made me think "Hmmm, maybe he really is up for this".  It was in the build up for the third goal, when Revan broke down the left, he absolutely bust a gut to sprint and try to offer numbers in the box.  It's little things like that, off the ball, that can sometimes tell you more about where a player's head is at.  Hopefully it was a good sign.

Twice in that passage of play he was running into spaces where he could have made things happen if he'd gotten the ball back. We got a goal out of it anyway, but as you say, it's good to see.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 04, 2023, 03:46:06 PM
That 3rd goal was my favourite of the 3. Watch it back a few times and look at how our players are moving as a unit, everything is planned in that as 1 player leaves a space if he gets followed another player moves into the same spot and we recycle it until someone finds they haven't been followed and then we quickly identify the overload and spring through.

From there Revan did exactly the right thing where instead of trying to pick a pass to Coutinho or Archer (who both attracted defenders out of the area) he hit it into the 'channel of uncertainty' where if the defender hadn't played it Kellyman had a tap in.

From a coaching perspective it had absolutely everything you'd want to see in an attack and was one of 3-4 times where we were brutally efficient in opening them up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ROBBO on August 04, 2023, 11:33:26 PM
I hope to see youngsters like Kellyman get real game time this season, it's an exiting time for Villa stalwarts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 04, 2023, 11:40:58 PM
I hope to see youngsters like Kellyman get real game time this season, it's an exiting time for Villa stalwarts.

I expect they are going to be included in the conference cup games and carabao. Great opportunity for these kids
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:42:08 AM
Most important today for this of you who are in Valencia: if going for a paella, do try the traditional Valencian one, which is not based on seafood but contains chicken, rabbit, butter beans, flat green beans, sometimes artichokes and maybe even a snail or three (helix aspersa, not the helix pomatia Burgundy variety), and of course a local round-grain rice such as 'bomba' or 'flor'. Marvellous!

(https://i.ibb.co/SnFbyZf/paella-valenciana-tradicional.webp) (https://ibb.co/J7DVtS3)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
raining cats and dogs here . What a cracking UK summer we are having. Wish i'd gone Valencia now
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on August 05, 2023, 10:31:35 AM
Most important today for this of you who are in Valencia: if going for a paella, do try the traditional Valencian one, which is not based on seafood but contains chicken, rabbit, butter beans, flat green beans, sometimes artichokes and maybe even a snail or three (helix aspersa, not the helix pomatia Burgundy variety), and of course a local round-grain rice such as 'bomba' or 'flor'. Marvellous!

(https://i.ibb.co/SnFbyZf/paella-valenciana-tradicional.webp) (https://ibb.co/J7DVtS3)

Looks as sounds wonderful BE.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Flamingo Lane on August 05, 2023, 10:43:06 AM
Most important today for this of you who are in Valencia: if going for a paella, do try the traditional Valencian one, which is not based on seafood but contains chicken, rabbit, butter beans, flat green beans, sometimes artichokes and maybe even a snail or three (helix aspersa, not the helix pomatia Burgundy variety), and of course a local round-grain rice such as 'bomba' or 'flor'. Marvellous!

(https://i.ibb.co/SnFbyZf/paella-valenciana-tradicional.webp) (https://ibb.co/J7DVtS3)

I hearty recommend this dish at Masusa Paella Bar, which is in the Russafa area, just off Gran Via.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on August 05, 2023, 10:47:13 AM
Take our those horrid butter beans, and I'd try it 😂
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
& the snails  :-\
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Axl Rose on August 05, 2023, 12:00:45 PM
& the snails  :-\

They're not too bad. At least they'd be dead, unlike here where something might still be alive (I am a big fan of such things, though, I must say)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 12:04:17 PM
I would eat that in its entirety. Two of them, probably.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on August 05, 2023, 12:41:06 PM
Currently 34 degrees here in Valencia
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 12:58:13 PM
Snails are optional really.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
I would eat that in its entirety. Two of them, probably.
I recently did a surf n turf mixed one and will will be doing a Valencian for friends in a week or so. Love it!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 01:06:48 PM
Most important today for this of you who are in Valencia: if going for a paella, do try the traditional Valencian one, which is not based on seafood but contains chicken, rabbit, butter beans, flat green beans, sometimes artichokes and maybe even a snail or three (helix aspersa, not the helix pomatia Burgundy variety), and of course a local round-grain rice such as 'bomba' or 'flor'. Marvellous!

(https://i.ibb.co/SnFbyZf/paella-valenciana-tradicional.webp) (https://ibb.co/J7DVtS3)

I hearty recommend this dish at Masusa Paella Bar, which is in the Russafa area, just off Gran Via.
Yes. If you get it from a shit touristy restaurant that heats up frozen ones it will be wank.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 01:08:35 PM
I'm very jealous of all who have gone down. It was too complicated for me so I'll pay my fiver and watch from six hour's drive up the road.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 01:49:07 PM
Sat here in the pissing rain dreaming of pints of Cruzcampo in the sun and flamenco dancers . Enjoy it, very jealous.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 02:29:33 PM
I'm very jealous of all who have gone down. It was too complicated for me so I'll pay my fiver and watch from six hour's drive up the road.

Good man, a proper fan! Glad you're on the road to recovery (if not Valencia).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 02:33:14 PM
I would eat that in its entirety. Two of them, probably.

Same here, love paella especially if washed down with a few nice cold beers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 03:27:22 PM
Mmmmm
(https://i.ibb.co/QK7TtXP/vesta-paella-146g-427085-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NygJb79)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2023, 03:33:47 PM
So is it just the kids playing tonight?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 03:37:18 PM
Hahaha! "Seville".
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 03:55:34 PM
So is it just the kids playing tonight?
? There are photos of all the  "big guns" training in the sun on Pravda.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 03:59:09 PM
Are we likely to start with the team that will start next weekend?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
So is it just the kids playing tonight?
? There are photos of all the  "big guns" training in the sun on Pravda.

Didn't somebody say on here yesterday half of some place in the Mailbox had been reserved by the Villa? Obviously not ITK.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 04:13:02 PM
So is it just the kids playing tonight?
? There are photos of all the  "big guns" training in the sun on Pravda.

Didn't somebody say on here yesterday half of some place in the Mailbox had been reserved by the Villa? Obviously not ITK.
I'd imagine that's for the bomb squad and injured
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 04:54:38 PM
Just a quick note to ask whether anyone else is experiencing problems trying to buy a match pass for tonight? Couldn't make it work for Lazio the other evening either. I'm a VillaTV subscriber, am logged in but can't make it work on the Villa app on Android nor Chrome or Firefox on Windows.

I've invited a Villa supporting neighbour who hasn't been well around to watch it, so hope I can get it working.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Scratchins on August 05, 2023, 04:59:16 PM
I've just signed up on Chrome/Windows by following the link on the OS while I was logged on. Good luck
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: steamer on August 05, 2023, 05:49:35 PM
I bought a pass for the Walsall game
Tried to log in , told I did not have a pass
Did not bother buying for the other games
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 05, 2023, 06:00:41 PM
Just a quick note to ask whether anyone else is experiencing problems trying to buy a match pass for tonight? Couldn't make it work for Lazio the other evening either. I'm a VillaTV subscriber, am logged in but can't make it work on the Villa app on Android nor Chrome or Firefox on Windows.

I've invited a Villa supporting neighbour who hasn't been well around to watch it, so hope I can get it working.


I had no success on the app for Lazio, but bought one through the website on Chrome. Couldn't cast it, so had to watch on my phone, which wasn't ideal. It's put me off buying a pass for tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 06:01:22 PM
I signed up via the app no worries.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 06:07:44 PM
Mixed bag, then.

I've tried iOS, android avfc app, chrome and Firefox on Windows, will not let me in.

Cancelled and renewed y VillaTV subscription, out of sheer desparation I even splashed out on a Claret membership to see if that helped.

Nothing.

Not the first time I've come up against the club's useless IT, they lost my booking history a while ago. Ugh.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stevo_st on August 05, 2023, 06:23:22 PM
I had problems buying the pass for the lazio game. But solved it by going back a step on the app in case that helps.
It wasn’t obvious that I was doing anything wrong - but there was definitely a link broken on website which didn’t direct you correctly
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 06:29:48 PM
I was sent to this link from the Pravda app https://www.avfc.co.uk/video/subscriptions/
Clicked on the Valencia game, inputted card details and got the confirmation.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 06:48:33 PM
Just a quick note to ask whether anyone else is experiencing problems trying to buy a match pass for tonight? Couldn't make it work for Lazio the other evening either. I'm a VillaTV subscriber, am logged in but can't make it work on the Villa app on Android nor Chrome or Firefox on Windows.

I've invited a Villa supporting neighbour who hasn't been well around to watch it, so hope I can get it working.

It is a problem with your account - I had exactly the same, multiple devices on and off wifi, no luck. Same problem with every live pre season game so far.

So I created a new account - in my Mrs's name - logged in, bought it with that, went straight through.

Don't bother trying it to get it to work - I had a look at the Javascript console and it was throwing an error with the Stripe (the payment processor) integration.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 06:53:48 PM
Further to ^^^ I just tried to buy tonight's game with my own account. Same thing, no joy.

Logged out and back in as my Mrs, no problem at all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
Not the first time I've come up against the club's useless IT, they lost my booking history a while ago. Ugh.

When I created a Fan ID for my uncle (earlier this year) all his games going back 10 yers or so popped up in his booking history. I was quite impressed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 07:01:31 PM
Pau at LB today it seems
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on August 05, 2023, 07:03:04 PM
Strong team. No Carlos again.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 07:03:41 PM
Thank you all very much indeed. BE, the link you gave didn't bear fruit, alas. Thank you though.

I'll create a new ID and see how that goes.

UTFVBNTSBITS
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 05, 2023, 07:03:45 PM
After Thursday, it's really intelligent to play tonight.
It's obviously a drill for the Europe evenings and turnarounds.
This will be our final pre season game before the trip to Newcastle but I think all the data collected is actually meaning this is our first match for what it represents.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: KNVillan on August 05, 2023, 07:05:50 PM
Here is the starting 11

(https://i.ibb.co/NVynYTq/IMG-3106.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NVynYTq)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 07:07:19 PM
Probably next week's team too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 05, 2023, 07:07:42 PM
Pau at LB today it seems
What seems to be occurring is that to fit Mings and Pau in the team Pau must be required as a left back and a right back is pushed forwards so Pau isn't a regular left back. It's very interesting use of him as he hasn't played that before comimg to Villa just simply played Mings position as a left centre-back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dave P on August 05, 2023, 07:13:01 PM
Not sure Pau there worked against Brentford so this will be interesting to see. It does seem first choice though although I can see Tielemans for Bailey next week. Especially away from home to a decent team.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Mister E on August 05, 2023, 07:13:04 PM
Pau at LB today it seems
What seems to be occurring is that to fit Mings and Pau in the team Pau must be required as a left back and a right back is pushed forwards so Pau isn't a regular left back. It's very interesting use of him as he hasn't played that before comimg to Villa just simply played Mings position as a left centre-back.

it's only what several people have been saying for a while: Emery is using the asymmetrical back 4 which Arteta employed for most of last season and which Guardiola adopted to accommodate Stones.
No drama.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on August 05, 2023, 07:13:39 PM
No sign of Carlos again ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 05, 2023, 07:16:56 PM
Probably next week's team too.
Because of the nature of turnarounds and the typical practise of sorting out the strongest and fittest players, I expect someone will get harmed. It happened with my horses. Different but similar. It also happened my 3 pre seasons at a lower level of football.

Those who do not properly warm up or perform the appropriate tasks during the summer will be exposed tonight.
This is distinct from any injury caused by an opponent on players.

In that lineup, I see three guys who are likely to have hamstring difficulties yes a defender In particular and a wide player. I also can see foot or knee injuries inflicted for those who didnt keep up their weight and strength in conditioning.

Let's simply watch what happens as don't want to say I have any particular foresight but I do know what I know on such matters

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 05, 2023, 07:17:13 PM
Not sure Pau there worked against Brentford so this will be interesting to see. It does seem first choice though although I can see Tielemans for Bailey next week. Especially away from home to a decent team.

Ive just said the same to my son re the team for next week.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 05, 2023, 07:17:21 PM
No sign of Carlos again ?
Yeah strange that. Hopefully he's not injured again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 05, 2023, 07:18:09 PM
Pau at LB today it seems
What seems to be occurring is that to fit Mings and Pau in the team Pau must be required as a left back and a right back is pushed forwards so Pau isn't a regular left back. It's very interesting use of him as he hasn't played that before comimg to Villa just simply played Mings position as a left centre-back.
I must say I dont like this "experiment" with Cesh as RWb and Pau as left LCB/LB. I think it would be better to drill a back four with Chambers/ Konsa - Konsa / Mings /Carlos - Torres (Mings if Torres cant play)- Moreno / Digne. Unusual formations like this dont often far well over time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 07:24:16 PM
Me either, Pau looked like a fish out of water at left back.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2023, 07:29:16 PM
Me either, Pau looked like a fish out of water at left back.

Same here. He scares the shit out of me at left back. Far more comfortable as a left central defender though I still prefer Mings there right now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 05, 2023, 07:29:49 PM
Me either, Pau looked like a fish out of water at left back.

I think it’s worth sticking with to give us another option and we did keep a clean sheet the other night.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 07:34:00 PM
New ID worked a treat - thanks to everyone for helping. Just waiting for coverage to begin.

The music they're playing is nice. Sort of like U2, Coldplay and The Red Hot Pepper Chillis all rolled into one. Something for everyone there. Cough.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: yammers on August 05, 2023, 07:43:36 PM
New ID worked a treat - thanks to everyone for helping. Just waiting for coverage to begin.

The music they're playing is nice. Sort of like U2, Coldplay and The Red Hot Pepper Chillis all rolled into one. Something for everyone there. Cough.

Not bad music but ld rather them just start the coverage given it kicks off in 2 mins!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 05, 2023, 07:47:11 PM
any little rivers about?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 05, 2023, 07:51:17 PM
Probably next week's team too.
Because of the nature of turnarounds and the typical practise of sorting out the strongest and fittest players, I expect someone will get harmed. It happened with my horses. Different but similar. It also happened my 3 pre seasons at a lower level of football.

Those who do not properly warm up or perform the appropriate tasks during the summer will be exposed tonight.
This is distinct from any injury caused by an opponent on players.

In that lineup, I see three guys who are likely to have hamstring difficulties yes a defender In particular and a wide player. I also can see foot or knee injuries inflicted for those who didnt keep up their weight and strength in conditioning.

Let's simply watch what happens as don't want to say I have any particular foresight but I do know what I know on such matters

With what you know you know and what I don’t know what I don’t know, we’ll be just fine.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: djbone on August 05, 2023, 07:55:09 PM
any little rivers about?

am looking too if anyone can be so kind - yet another Villa TV nightmare...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 05, 2023, 07:59:34 PM
Wasn't expecting as strong a team as this, players playing twice in 48 hours is interesting so hopefully we don't pick up any knocks.

Valencia in a sorry state looking at their squad list. Were pretty close to getting relegated last season so basically Everton level these days.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on August 05, 2023, 08:01:52 PM
Does anyone have a link?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: djbone on August 05, 2023, 08:02:35 PM
any little rivers about?

am looking too if anyone can be so kind - yet another Villa TV nightmare...

all good, cheers!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:03:06 PM
How come no sponsors on shirts?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on August 05, 2023, 08:03:25 PM
Does anyone have a link?

This
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 08:03:52 PM
The shirt looks 100% better.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: tom jennings III on August 05, 2023, 08:04:35 PM
Sorry to be this person, if anyone could PM me a river it would really be appreciated tonight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on August 05, 2023, 08:04:56 PM
How come no sponsors on shirts?

Betting advertising banned in Spain?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on August 05, 2023, 08:04:57 PM
Does anyone have a link?

This

Cough
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2023, 08:05:09 PM
love the shirt
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:05:25 PM
I had to use https://www.avfc.co.uk/live to get the Villa TV stream to work. It is really hard to find your way around our shithole of a website, and I know what I'm doing when on the web. FFS!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on August 05, 2023, 08:07:08 PM
How come no sponsors on shirts?

Perhaps betting adverts are banned in Spain?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 05, 2023, 08:07:16 PM
Any trickle would be appreciated. I am currently in Spain
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:08:03 PM
How come no sponsors on shirts?
I infer Spanish TV contractual whatnot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:08:57 PM
How come no sponsors on shirts?

Perhaps betting adverts are banned in Spain?

You are right, just googled. Italy banned it too, had no idea of that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:10:11 PM
We are on the beach.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 08:11:04 PM
We should RELEASE the ball into the SKY and it'll follow like XYZ
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:11:20 PM
We are on the beach.
It is just down the road to be fair.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 08:13:15 PM
Why is it so hard to use VillaTV?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:13:57 PM
Picture quality is truly awful
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: trinityoap on August 05, 2023, 08:14:01 PM
This is looking like  a much stiffer test.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 08:15:21 PM
Fuck it. I couldn’t buy the match pass and will watch some Spanish stream. Useless
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:15:35 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on August 05, 2023, 08:15:59 PM
Some rough tackles about for a pre season game
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:16:04 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.

Absolutely dreadful ghosting.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:16:58 PM
Why is it so hard to use VillaTV?
They don't make it exactly easy to access.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Malandro on August 05, 2023, 08:17:09 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.

I bought the three games and it’s not even showing my subscription!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:17:32 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.

Absolutely dreadful ghosting.
Yes. A DISGRACE. And the word is not lightly used.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
Is anyone else getting sea sick watching this - double vision on everything
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 08:18:16 PM
I have a nice rivulet
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:18:25 PM
This is looking like  a much stiffer test.
Yup, Valencia have turned up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:18:39 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.

Absolutely dreadful ghosting.
Yes. A DISGRACE. And the word is not lightly used.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
This looks like a normal televised football match if i can't find my glasses
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 08:19:35 PM
Don't know about seasick, but I'm having strong psilocybin flashbacks...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:20:02 PM
I agree about the Villa website, complete shite. I've bought the stream but the definition is terrible.

Absolutely dreadful ghosting.
Yes. A DISGRACE. And the word is not lightly used.
Good set up though, with both teams having two men in every position.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nordenvillain on August 05, 2023, 08:20:26 PM
For someone supposedly comfortable on the ball, Paul concerns me, each of his touches has led to us losing possession.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 08:20:33 PM
I've abandoned Villa TV, it was giving me the yedache.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
We are all over the shop.

I didn't think this was supposed to happen any more.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:21:51 PM
Dreadful quality video on the OS.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:22:23 PM
Why is it so hard to use VillaTV?
They don't make it exactly easy to access.

Yep, easy to make payment though isn't it. How they've got the nerve to take money from people for this rubbish I'll never know.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:22:34 PM
Torres is being given a torrid time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 08:23:25 PM
Very sloppy at the moment.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:23:40 PM
Bailey crap too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 05, 2023, 08:23:58 PM
Given up on Villa TV absolute shite.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:24:43 PM
I have switched to a dodgy stream, and it's the same stream from Valencia, same graphics etc except with no commentary at all, so clearly the ghosting is something Villa are fucking up when they add their commentary and graphics to it

The one I am watching (subscription service is perfect)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 08:25:35 PM
No wonder it’s been a slow start - none of the players know which version to pass too
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:25:35 PM
Torres isn’t a left back. Sticking him there is just trying to shoe horn him in. Just pick a central defensive partnership. If he has to wait his turn, so be it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
I've deafed AVTV for a Spanish stream that is great quality.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
Why is it so hard to use VillaTV?
They don't make it exactly easy to access.

Yep, easy to make payment though isn't it. How they've got the nerve to take money from people for this rubbish I'll never know.
Especially if you've already coughed up for a ST or membership. It should be free for those subscribers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:26:19 PM
Bailey is absolutely hopeless.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Legion on August 05, 2023, 08:26:46 PM
Torres isn’t a left back. Sticking him there is just trying to shoe horn him in. Just pick a central defensive partnership. If he has to wait his turn, so be it.

This.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:26:57 PM
SSCCHHOORRCCHHIIOO!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:27:04 PM
Easy..he scores when he wants
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 08:27:04 PM
Dreadful quality video on the OS.

I couldn’t even get on. It’s absolutely shit as a service
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 08:27:11 PM
Deadly there Ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:27:13 PM
Great finish Ollie!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:27:25 PM
Ollie !
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 08:27:27 PM
One-chance Watkins! Clinical.  8)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 05, 2023, 08:27:35 PM
Bailey gets forearm smash, no FK.

Can see us getting an injury or two tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: LeeB on August 05, 2023, 08:27:45 PM
Woof!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:27:51 PM
Very good goal Ollie, lovely.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 08:28:17 PM
Woof!

Grrrrrrr.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:28:40 PM
Gooooooooooolloooóol!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2023, 08:28:54 PM
Fucking hell this lot are kicking us a lot.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2023, 08:30:24 PM
Good shot, some power behind it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
Lovely finish.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: amfy on August 05, 2023, 08:32:34 PM
Paid for the 3 game package but tonight I have switched to a trickle cos the OS quality is so poor! Always live a Spanish commentary anyway!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 08:34:23 PM
Paid for the 3 game package but tonight I have switched to a trickle cos the OS quality is so poor! Always live a Spanish commentary anyway!

It’s atrocious
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:34:39 PM
Neither Bailey or his backup 31 could control that ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:34:46 PM
Bailey FFS
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 08:35:01 PM
Ah Bailey, Bailey, Bailey. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:35:03 PM
Neither Bailey or his backup 31 could control that ball.

Those balls.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 08:35:12 PM
It anyone has a trickle please let me know.  I’ve bought from os - but watching it feels like having drank 12 pints
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 08:35:21 PM
If you've got a VPN, select Spain as the source then google 'GolPlay Directo HD'. You'll find the match there with perfect screen quality but Spanish commentary.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 05, 2023, 08:35:39 PM
My stream died - if anyone could oblige?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:36:14 PM
I shall be sending a strongly-worded e-mail to the club demanding a refund of the £4.99. I am a CLARET MEMBER I'll have you know! Unacceptable.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:36:35 PM
It anyone has a trickle please let me know.  I’ve bought from os - but watching it feels like having drank 12 pints

Agreed, me too please.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 05, 2023, 08:37:39 PM
Probably next week's team too.
It happened with my horses.

First ever on a match thread?

Hope we’ve got our scoring shoes on tonight.  If we get a penalty I hope Watkins steps up and doesn’t neigh for an answer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
I shall be sending a strongly-worded e-mail to the club demanding a refund of the £4.99. I am a CLARET MEMBER I'll have you know! Unacceptable.

Yes I'm a claret member too and feel very pissed off with this shambles.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 08:38:51 PM
Blurry picture
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:38:55 PM
Torres at left back, it's not working, he looks panicked when on the ball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:39:57 PM
Torres at left back, it's not working, he looks panicked when on the ball.

I look panicked when he's on the ball too :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 08:40:00 PM
Bailey constantly giving the ball away.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 08:40:17 PM
Ollie's goal. https://twitter.com/Goalsreplayy/status/1687910008044892160

Picture seems fine to me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Probably next week's team too.
It happened with my horses.

First ever on a match thread?

Hope we’ve got our scoring shoes on tonight.  If we get a penalty I hope Watkins steps up and doesn’t neigh for an answer.
We will give them a shoeing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on August 05, 2023, 08:42:03 PM
I know it’s a friendly. No reason to get worked up or bothered about anything.
But Bailey is still fucking shit
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:42:04 PM
Emi Emi Emi...very poor there. Good job we have a Robin as backup.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:42:35 PM
Key Market Kops there after that corner.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stevo_st on August 05, 2023, 08:43:09 PM
If anyone has a trickle would be much appreciated, Villa TV is crap for me as well
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:43:16 PM
Absolute panic stations!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:43:25 PM
Bailey constantly giving the ball away.
It's no from  me for next week.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 08:43:26 PM
Good job we've got our first team to come on after the break.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:44:15 PM
Lovely play Kamara.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on August 05, 2023, 08:44:34 PM
Bailey is terrible. No idea why he gets the start. Would take Philogene any day.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:44:41 PM
I hope this is our shit half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:44:54 PM
If anyone has a trickle would be much appreciated, Villa TV is crap for me as well

I can't send any more pm's - can someone else share ?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 08:45:26 PM
Not sure about Torres at left back or Bailey being on the pitch - bless him
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 05, 2023, 08:45:48 PM
Bailey constantly giving the ball away.
It's no from  me for next week.

He’s Valencia’s best option going forward.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 05, 2023, 08:45:55 PM
these are aggressive
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 08:46:15 PM
Torres and Bailey are having their own "give the ball away" competition
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 08:47:18 PM
Digne and Phil on at half-time please Unai.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:47:41 PM
If anyone has a trickle would be much appreciated, Villa TV is crap for me as well
It's not a problem with Villa TV it's players causing that by moving. They should stand still, maybe the Villa TV person can have at word with all 44 of them at HT.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 08:47:47 PM
Looks as hot as 'nam out on the pitch
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 08:48:31 PM
Were playing like headless chickens
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rodders on August 05, 2023, 08:50:45 PM
If anyone has a trickle would be much appreciated, Villa TV is crap for me as well
It's not a problem with Villa TV it's players causing that by moving. They should stand still, maybe the Villa TV person can have at word with all 44 of them at HT.

Applause.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on August 05, 2023, 08:50:50 PM
Looks as hot as 'nam out on the pitch

As I’m watching from Vietnam, I can confirm that it’s only ~30deg right now, so it’s probably hotter over there.

Of course, it’s also 3am so it will warm up later 😁
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:50:52 PM
Blimey Torres
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 08:51:18 PM
Torres ripped again, good job Kamara was there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:51:27 PM
Kamara has been excellent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:52:12 PM
Kamara has been even better than excellent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:52:38 PM
These are yampy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 08:52:44 PM
This ref is a twat.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 08:53:05 PM
Dirty twat.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 08:54:13 PM
Knack him Meatball.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
Bit rough thse fuckers
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 08:55:26 PM
I know we have Olsen but fuck me what is this?

https://twitter.com/lmechegaray/status/1687881655074062337?s=46
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on August 05, 2023, 08:55:37 PM
Kamara has been even better than excellent.

He has. Constantly cleaning up everyone's errors.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 08:55:44 PM
Valencia are very niggly, especially that paulista bloke. Didn't he play for spuds?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 08:56:16 PM
Bailey's got the first touch of a pavement slab.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:56:42 PM
Conclusive proof that we play much better when we have the name of a gambling company on our shirts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: andyh on August 05, 2023, 08:57:02 PM
Torres looks absolutely lost at full back.
Bailey is still shit
We need get Diaby and Ollie involved
Mcginn and Kamara are both outstanding
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: SaddVillan on August 05, 2023, 08:57:11 PM
Valencia are very niggly, especially that paulista bloke. Didn't he play for spuds?
Probably playing for peanuts now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 05, 2023, 08:57:14 PM
I think Valencia’s aggression is fitting for the occasion. This is for the Jaffa Cake Cup, after all.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 08:57:33 PM
I really hope we don't see Pau at left back at Newcastle, he looks all at sea.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 08:57:36 PM
Kamara looks amazing - as he does most of the time.  Bailey looks like he won a competition - as he does most of the time. 

Torres looks shaky TBF - but think the idea is for him more to tuck in but he’s been called into action .

Diaby not done a lot - Watkins did well.  No real rythm to our play - but it’s does look hotter then the sun
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 08:58:02 PM
Valencia have huffed, we're at best in 3rd gear, carrying Bailey- overall happy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 08:58:57 PM
Our kit doesn't appear very breathable
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 05, 2023, 09:00:04 PM
{alt}

A bit lucky that we are ahead and that they havent scored. Must be wrong with torres at LB, the left side dosent function offensive or defensive and I m also sceptical about Cash on RWB standing on the sideline waiting for the ball. Overall the team not functioning as a whole because og this. If we set up and play like this at Newcastle they will score easily and we will loose I m afraid
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 05, 2023, 09:00:06 PM
Torres and Bailey are having their own "give the ball away" competition

Understandable with Bailey, disappointing with Torres. It feels like we’re accommodating him in the position he’s playing.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:00:14 PM
I remain convinced that our good form last season was despite Bailey, not because of him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:00:36 PM
Bailey's best contribution was in the outbreak of handbags.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 09:00:49 PM
Think is Bailey or diaby - Phil or emi
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:00:53 PM
Torres and Bailey are having their own "give the ball away" competition

Understandable with Bailey, disappointing with Torres. It feels like we’re accommodating him in the position he’s playing.

I reckon that's it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 09:00:58 PM
playing CB's as FB's rarely works
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 05, 2023, 09:01:07 PM
I only started watching at 33 minutes but from the 15 minutes I have seen so far Kamara has been immense and Pau Torres looks at bit slow on the turn and out of place as effectively a left back when we are defending (which was a lot in those 15 minutes).
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 09:01:14 PM
They drink a lot of pop in Spain by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:01:38 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 05, 2023, 09:03:17 PM
Torres definitely can't play LB. Bailey not great. Valencia are really trying to batter us for some bloody reason. Wankers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 09:03:59 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.

Or to let the ball bounce so much when he should be taking a touch.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 05, 2023, 09:04:41 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.

He’s been poor but he’s a bit behind the others in playing time so I’ll cut him some slack.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 09:05:09 PM
Mings doing well again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.

He’s been poor but he’s a bit behind the others in playing time so I’ll cut him some slack.
Didn't he get "game time" with the Reggae Boyz?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 09:06:29 PM
They drink a lot of pop in Spain by the looks of things.

And have a lot of sex as well. The jammy gets.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 09:07:21 PM
Probably next week's team too.
It happened with my horses.

First ever on a match thread?

The horses seemed to make it to half-time ok.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dicedlam on August 05, 2023, 09:07:28 PM
A couple of times that half Bailey had the chance to use this so called ‘blistering pace’ that he is supposed to have, but nothing.

Please Saudi’s, make us an offer.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
They drink a lot of pop in Spain by the looks of things.

And have a lot of sex as well. The jammy gets.

They all seem to have taken those big sandwiches with them as well.

Bocadillos, I believe they call them.

Perhaps it's as hard to get a sangria and paella at half time there as it is beer and pie at our place.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 05, 2023, 09:08:07 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.

He’s been poor but he’s a bit behind the others in playing time so I’ll cut him some slack.

He only had 2 weeks off aswell.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 05, 2023, 09:08:16 PM
I think in games where we dominate possession, Pau at left back will be fine. Just not when he’s given it under massive pressure every time.

Suspect we’ll see a lot of horses for courses stuff this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:09:06 PM
Hugo Duro sounds like a porn star name.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 09:10:24 PM
Digne on?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on August 05, 2023, 09:12:30 PM
Digne on?
for Torres and Buendia too for Bailey?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:14:57 PM
I’ve never known a player to trip over the ball as much as Bailey does.

He’s been poor but he’s a bit behind the others in playing time so I’ll cut him some slack.

He only had 2 weeks off aswell.

It’s basic control. I’m not criticizing his match fitness
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:15:53 PM
He was mostly crap all last season as well.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:16:24 PM
Kamara is such a good player. That languid, effortless style of his is great to watch but at times scary, as it makes you think, surely he can't be good enough to get away with that so often.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:17:53 PM
He was mostly crap all last season as well.

And the season before. He's just not done it for us with any consistency.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:18:53 PM
I don’t think we’ll be seeing Pau and Bailey start against Newcastle. Both quite poor this evening. Torres at least has the excuse of being played out of position though.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:18:59 PM
He was mostly crap all last season as well.
That was ONLY his second season with us so cut him some slack.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 05, 2023, 09:19:29 PM
What’s the score please? Who scored? Thanks.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 09:20:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if this ref has a season ticket for Valencia. Absolute shite.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:20:19 PM
What’s the score please? Who scored? Thanks.

3-0

Spinksy, Birchy, Alan McInally.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 05, 2023, 09:20:25 PM
1 0 up, Ollie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:20:29 PM
What’s the score please? Who scored? Thanks.

Is this your version of “who’s Dan Bardell?”
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:20:54 PM
What’s the score please? Who scored? Thanks.
Not a good question. Better question would be " I suppose we are winning so who scored for ys?"
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 05, 2023, 09:21:19 PM
I don’t think we’ll be seeing Pau and Bailey start against Newcastle. Both quite poor this evening. Torres at least has the excuse of being played out of position though.

Not watching tonight, but from what I saw of Torres against Lazio first half, I think he’ll be quality for as a ball playing centre back. I’d be surprised if Digne doesn’t start next Saturday.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Steve67 on August 05, 2023, 09:21:38 PM
1 0 up, Ollie

Thanks Duncan.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 09:21:44 PM
Kamara is such a good player. That languid, effortless style of his is great to watch but at times scary, as it makes you think, surely he can't be good enough to get away with that so often.
I know what you mean, but as we've seen a few times, he occasionally doesn't get away with it. I love to watch him, but he just needs to be a bit more switched on sometimes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:21:57 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/3NS9pyB/avfc-valencia.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsFr7ZS)

This is the quality I'm getting from AVTV on my laptop (on a 500 Mbits fibre connection). WANK!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:22:12 PM
What is wrong with these arseholes? Some of these tackles, jesus
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:23:04 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/3NS9pyB/avfc-valencia.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsFr7ZS)

This is the quality I'm getting from AVTV on my laptop (on a 500 Mbits fibre connection). WANK!

It is Villa fucking it up, unfortunately.

I am watching the raw stream  (no commentary, no graphics) and it is perfect.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:23:04 PM
Ref is a clown
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 09:23:18 PM
and the ref gives Luiz a yellow :(
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:24:07 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:24:18 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/3NS9pyB/avfc-valencia.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsFr7ZS)

This is the quality I'm getting from AVTV on my laptop (on a 500 Mbits fibre connection). WANK!
Are you also getting 44 players on the pitch now and then?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/3NS9pyB/avfc-valencia.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsFr7ZS)

This is the quality I'm getting from AVTV on my laptop (on a 500 Mbits fibre connection). WANK!

It is Villa fucking it up, unfortunately.

I am watching the raw stream  (no commentary, no graphics) and it is perfect.
I'm watching exactly the same stream as AVTV from a Spanish site and the quality is excellent.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:26:02 PM
This lot need Mings snapping one of them in half.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
Tielemans, Philogene and Coutinho time.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:27:20 PM
I am also watching a Spanish stream but wanted people to see for themselves what the AVTV £4.99 offfering is like.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2023, 09:27:31 PM
This lot need Mings snapping one of them in half.

Yeah I thought that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:27:47 PM
Shhon Masheeen
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:28:14 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.
They do now nr 2, good quality
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 09:28:42 PM
I am also watching a Spanish stream but wanted people to see for themselves what the AVTV £4.99 offfering is like.
Yep. First and last time I'll make that mistake.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:28:47 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:29:10 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:29:40 PM
What a lovely goal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:29:54 PM
Clas clas class
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:29:58 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap

Watch 2 then!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 09:30:07 PM
Couts! And lovely finish from the wee man.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: devilla on August 05, 2023, 09:30:14 PM
Great goal that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 09:30:19 PM
That's brilliant from Coutinho.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 09:30:28 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 05, 2023, 09:30:30 PM
That’s a good goal
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:30:42 PM
Fucking hell! Boooooom!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:30:56 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap

Watch 2 then!
When i started there wasn't an no 2
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 05, 2023, 09:31:00 PM
excelletn goal, lovely movement to open up the space.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap

Watch 2 then!

1 is the Villa feed.
2 is the much better one.

The difference is huge
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:31:08 PM
Lovely set up and lovely finish. We’re fantastic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 05, 2023, 09:31:08 PM
An SG moment of magic.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JD on August 05, 2023, 09:31:13 PM
What a great goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on August 05, 2023, 09:31:14 PM
Lovely combination. And finish
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Andy Poole on August 05, 2023, 09:31:26 PM
Is Phil back?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:31:31 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap

Watch 2 then!

1 is the Villa feed.
2 is the much better one.

The difference is huge

Ah didn’t realize they were different. Ta.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 05, 2023, 09:31:33 PM
Watkins needs a new shirt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:31:44 PM
Coutinho is up for it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 09:31:45 PM
Beautiful finish, great assist from Couts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 09:31:50 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:32:22 PM
The only other stream I could find had nicked the AVFC stream, sadly.

The PADL one is very good quality
padl 2 is. 1 is crap

Watch 2 then!

1 is the Villa feed.
2 is the much better one.

The difference is huge

Ah didn’t realize they were different. Ta.
Ditto, just found out before
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 05, 2023, 09:32:43 PM
PADL 1 is wank
PADL2 is silent

At least I’ve not paid the Villa site for a one off load of crap
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:32:46 PM
Even when are not at our best we are still finding ways to score and win games
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 09:33:01 PM
Great press and pressure from both Philogene and Coutinho to win the ball, and a really smart first time finish from little Emi, who did really well to get into the box considering how deep we were when we won the ball back.  Excellent goal.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:33:16 PM
PADL 1 is wank
PADL2 is silent

At least I’ve not paid the Villa site for a one off load of crap

It's not silent, it just doesn't have the comms.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 09:33:54 PM
It feels like we have gone up a gear or two.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 09:34:19 PM
Even when are not at our best we are still finding ways to score and win games

Yeah, this is how we need to be able to play. Absorb pressure and then when you get a sniff, back of the net.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: trinityoap on August 05, 2023, 09:34:24 PM
As soon as I start to wonder if we should think about selling Coutinho and Buendia they do that.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 05, 2023, 09:34:30 PM
Philogene has read the stuff about being like Willian, and bouffed up his afro!!!!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:34:57 PM
As soon as I start to wonder if we should think about selling Coutinho and Buendia they do that.
What wonderful depth in the squad, off the bench or if/when they start
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2023, 09:34:59 PM
PADL 1 is wank
PADL2 is silent

At least I’ve not paid the Villa site for a one off load of crap

It's not silent, it just doesn't have the comms.
And much more enjoyable,  got dizzy from the other... or maybe it was the beers 🍻
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
We are controlling this now.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:35:47 PM
The stadium seems emptier. I suppose most of the Valencia fans will have heard their moms calling them home for their tea which will be ready in 30 minutes or so
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:36:03 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 09:36:25 PM
I still get worried watching us play out from the keeper with both full backs hugging their respective touchlines, but it does promote some lovely passing play.  I'm sure it's going to cost us a goal or two at some stage, but i'm confident we'll score more keeping the ball this way...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:36:41 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor

Close up it’s absolutely wringing wet with sweat. Terrible to play in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 09:37:40 PM
Cash with a double bald patch tonight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:37:52 PM
I can get used to this. I’ve decided the Emery bloke can stay for a bit longer
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:38:01 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor
Yes it does. I have stopped buying shirts once the chest sponsors came on but if could I will buy this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 09:38:02 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor

Just follow Risso's washing instructions and your shirt can be sans sponsor too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:38:28 PM
I can get used to this. I’ve decided the Emery bloke can stay for a bit longer
Give him the Newcastle game.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 05, 2023, 09:38:45 PM
What I really like about Philogene is that he's clearly spent a lot of time watching players like Luiz who grew up with Futsal so he controls with his studs as often as with his instep and the flexibility that gives means he can always pick to go inside or outside.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 09:39:07 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor

Close up it’s absolutely wringing wet with sweat. Terrible to play in.

Reminds me of every shirt Petrov played in.  By half-time he always looked like he'd been playing in a monsoon.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:39:26 PM
Cash with a double bald patch tonight
He should go to Poland and get a hair transplant.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
Philogene is much better than Bailey.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 09:40:30 PM
love the way we play with no fear.  1 CF, but were not giving him a rest
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 09:40:36 PM
This second half has been the best I've seen Bailey play for a while, he's barely put a foot wrong. Think he has found his best position.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: stubbsyandy on August 05, 2023, 09:40:45 PM
Cash with a double bald patch tonight

Give the guy a break..wtf does it matter
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2023, 09:41:28 PM
Cash with a double bald patch tonight
He should go to Poland and get a hair transplant.

Thought turkey was good
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:41:35 PM
Cash with a double bald patch tonight

Give the guy a break..wtf does it matter

Oooh!

Touched a nerve?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:42:00 PM
The Blessed Cameron is amongst us!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:42:06 PM
Oh and Chambers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nigel on August 05, 2023, 09:42:10 PM
I can get used to this. I’ve decided the Emery bloke can stay for a bit longer
Give him the Newcastle game.

We’ll have to be careful or that lot across the city might make him an offer he can’t refuse now they’re massive again
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 09:43:08 PM
I must say the graphic design we have on our numbers, and are twitter posts is really, really bad
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 09:43:39 PM
Chambers has looked a lot better on the ball in pre-season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 09:44:07 PM
They can’t deal with Coutinho.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:44:17 PM
Have to say, the shirt looks lovely at a distance and sans sponsor

Close up it’s absolutely wringing wet with sweat. Terrible to play in.
And here is me thinking that  these hi-tech 150 pound 'pro' shirts were made to play top-level sport with sweat management and all sorts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 09:44:29 PM
Against Lazio I could sort of convince myself the result was partly because they are a week behind us in preparation for the next season, with Serie A not starting till the 19th.  But La Liga starts next weekend, same as us, so fitness wise we should be the same.  And though Valencia aren't a top Spanish team these days, we're making them look average.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 09:44:43 PM
Liquid football
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 05, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
Chambers has looked a lot better on the ball in pre-season.

Played really well against Lazio
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 09:45:43 PM
4th official in jeans and a tee shirt
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 05, 2023, 09:46:38 PM
Had to be a yellow


Couts looking good
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Nev on August 05, 2023, 09:46:41 PM
They're trying to wring Phil's shirt out for him...
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Garyth on August 05, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Philogene looking good tonight.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 05, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
They can’t deal with Coutinho.

Blimey, if he is going to be somewhere approaching his best this season, who knows what the ceiling is*.

* = and of course the seasoned Villa fan in me says avoiding relegation by a good 3 points instead of 1 :)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:48:14 PM
Lovely ball from Dougie.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 05, 2023, 09:49:15 PM
Sharpest I’ve seen Coutinho in a Villa shirt
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:49:38 PM
Valencia players are desperate for Felipe's shirt.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:49:51 PM
Philogene puts in such a shift, busts a gut to get back and help out when needed.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 09:50:17 PM
Sharpest I’ve seen Coutinho in a Villa shirt

Blimey. He was superb at times when first arrived. I don’t this game is better than that as encouraging as it’s been.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 05, 2023, 09:50:18 PM
Sharpest I’ve seen Coutinho in a Villa shirt
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Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pablo_picasso on August 05, 2023, 09:50:36 PM
Philogene looking good tonight.

Nicely fattened up.

Lets sell him for FFP...

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:51:04 PM
WTF..3 Velecia subs with 3 minutes to go!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 09:51:21 PM
Couthino, if he could stay fit, would be like a new signing.    He looks a level above everyone else

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 09:51:24 PM
Buendia's goal with Phil's assist. https://twitter.com/natsiobhan_/status/1687925032830320640
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 05, 2023, 09:52:25 PM
Meh. Poor defending at the near post
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:52:43 PM
Bollocks!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 09:53:14 PM
The look Martinez gave to Chambers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:53:25 PM
Great og from Chambers.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: john e on August 05, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Nice finish from Chambers there
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nordenvillain on August 05, 2023, 09:53:37 PM
 1st rule of defending in La Liga, pull the opponent's shirt, doesn't look as bad as hacking them down but just as effective.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 09:54:14 PM
The look Martinez gave to Chambers.

Can only assume he gave a big shout for it given there were no forwards near Chambers?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: paul_e on August 05, 2023, 09:54:46 PM
1st rule of defending in La Liga, pull the opponent's shirt, doesn't look as bad as hacking them down but just as effective.

Given how poorly made they are I'm surprised Coutinho's is in 1 piece.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 09:55:15 PM
The look Martinez gave to Chambers.


Can only assume he gave a big shout for it given there were no forwards near Chambers?
Chambers did well to beat two Villa players to head that in.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 05, 2023, 09:57:17 PM
Sharpest I’ve seen Coutinho in a Villa shirt
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I hope they can't get a decent stream in Qatar and aren't seeing any of this.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2023, 09:57:54 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:58:00 PM
Ref is basically making it up as he goes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 09:58:36 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.

No, he’s been a bit underwhelming tbh.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
Ref is basically making it up as he goes.
He likes pointing to his shirt and saying 'I' 'me'.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 09:59:32 PM
FT.

The forces of good prevail.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2023, 10:00:04 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.

No, he’s been a bit underwhelming tbh.
Yup. Needs to improve fast if he wants to be part of this squad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Bad English on August 05, 2023, 10:00:24 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.

No, he’s been a bit underwhelming tbh.
He is far from being a solution.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:00:41 PM
Really impressed with Coutinho, Philogene and Tielemans when they came on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ads on August 05, 2023, 10:01:18 PM
Utterly dominant.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 10:01:59 PM
Really impressed with Coutinho, Philogene and Tielemans when they came on.
Plus Buendia
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 10:02:27 PM
Initally, I thought it had been raining, as all our shirts were soaked.

But then I remembered, the rain, in Spain, falls mostly on the plain
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:02:38 PM
You'll never sing that
You'll never sing that
Champions of the Taronfa
You'll never sing that!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: ldavfc4eva on August 05, 2023, 10:02:55 PM
Another win, good one at that.

We are crying out for another striker though, Cam ain’t there just yet
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 05, 2023, 10:03:13 PM
So based on all the preseason games it feels like we're spoiled for choice in midfield, have decisions to make in defence, and are praying Watkins and Martinez can play 60 matches each this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 10:03:54 PM
We need another forward, Archer’s not the answer as back up.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:06:27 PM
We need another forward, Archer’s not the answer as back up.

He might be, but I don't want us banking on it.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: CT Villan on August 05, 2023, 10:06:43 PM
Archer's movement is excellent, he just has no end-product (yet).

That was the Coutinho show and long may it continue. Kamara and Dougie great. Buendia did well also.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on August 05, 2023, 10:07:08 PM
Archer just needs minutes, which he will get this season.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2023, 10:07:23 PM
Another win. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: dorsetvillian on August 05, 2023, 10:09:11 PM
Bailey definitely won't be in the starting 11 at Newcastle. Torres also looked out of position at left back. Apart from that another composed performance.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: OCD on August 05, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
Being very harsh on Archer. He had one half chance where he was on his own and surrounded by about 3 defenders. And he made one run where he would have been onside if it had been released and through because of their high line, but he would have looked offside to whoever it was on the ball.

I think he will develop as the season goes on with chances to start against weaker opposition, then he can grow into the role more.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 05, 2023, 10:10:54 PM
Much more solid with a specialist left back. The almost instant impact from Tielemans, Coutinho and Philogene when they came on was impressive as was Buendia's finish.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:11:44 PM
Buendia's run for his goal was excellent, diagonal, full pelt, out of nowhere, and Coutinho did brilliantly to find him.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 10:12:07 PM
Given the premier league advertising event in the US, I think this is the highest quality set of sides we've ever played in pre-season, and the results and performances - on the whole - have been excellent.  Fingers crossed we can carry this form into next weekend and beyond.

As for who will start against Newcastle, Christ knows. Barring Martinez, Oli, McGinn and Mings, it could be anyone else.  Brilliant to have so many genuine choices in the squad!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nordenvillain on August 05, 2023, 10:12:19 PM
Really impressed with Coutinho, Philogene and Tielemans when they came on.
Plus Buendia
I thought we looked better balanced when Pau went off and Digne came on. He's undoubtedly a good player, but I think Pau will need more minutes to justify a starting place at present. Flat back 4 for me next week at Newcastle, might be different line up v Everton.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 05, 2023, 10:12:26 PM
I'd like to see Cam Archer stay more central in the way Ollie Watkins has begun to do.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: nordenvillain on August 05, 2023, 10:13:54 PM
Given the premier league advertising event in the US, I think this is the highest quality set of sides we've ever played in pre-season, and the results and performances - on the whole - have been excellent.  Fingers crossed we can carry this form into next weekend and beyond.

As for who will start against Newcastle, Christ knows. Barring Martinez, Oli, McGinn and Mings, it could be anyone else.  Brilliant to have so many genuine choices in the squad!
Think you can add Luiz and Kamara to those names
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 10:14:44 PM
Dont see a lot wrong with Archer, we know there is a big drop off in experience from Watkins to our other strikers but I think he did fine with his chance.

To be honest, I think Diaby didn't do much, and Torres looks out of place at on the left - I wouldn't be in a rush to right off any of the 3 of them
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on August 05, 2023, 10:15:19 PM
Does today make people feel better, worse, or unchanged about where we stand for next week? I feel a little worse if this lineup stands.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Smithy on August 05, 2023, 10:16:33 PM
Given the premier league advertising event in the US, I think this is the highest quality set of sides we've ever played in pre-season, and the results and performances - on the whole - have been excellent.  Fingers crossed we can carry this form into next weekend and beyond.

As for who will start against Newcastle, Christ knows. Barring Martinez, Oli, McGinn and Mings, it could be anyone else.  Brilliant to have so many genuine choices in the squad!
Think you can add Luiz and Kamara to those names

Maybe, but that means no Tielemans, and I'm not entirely sure which two out of those three he'll choose for Newcastle. I think you're probably right, but only 100% that McGinn will play.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 05, 2023, 10:16:47 PM
So will Unai be flying over to Villareal to watch Newcastle tomorrow before coming home?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 05, 2023, 10:17:30 PM
I’m pretty positive - we’ve just beat two big European sides. Also Valencia tried to kick us off the park and we saw them off.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 05, 2023, 10:18:10 PM
Does today make people feel better, worse, or unchanged about where we stand for next week? I feel a little worse if this lineup stands.

I’m not going to judge today in isolation. 2nd game in 48 hours and we still comfortably won. So unchanged really.

Taking the pre-season as a whole, I’m as excited about a season as I ever remember being.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2023, 10:18:39 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.

That run he went on and beat a couple of players before having his shot blocked is a great example of his talent and what we need. He gave their defenders something to constantly think about. Great shot from Watkins but he rarely looks a threat. I don't think it helped having Diaby up front so narrow and close. Neither were running the channels looking for a through ball but then they didn't have Coutinho doing the magic.

Emery has put together a great squad and he will need to get them working effectively as a team. He can't play everybody and he'll need to work on how we get the best from the strikers as the keeper, defence and midfield look good enough for what we want to achieve.

This new FIFA law allowing for a more physical game will need to be far better managed by the referees we've seen in the last two games.

Nice to see we've been unbeaten all pre-season and for John McGinn to lift his first trophy of the season. Let's hope it's the first of many. FA Cup next please lads.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: MalcolmP on August 05, 2023, 10:18:51 PM
Desperate for Archer to do something, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening for him.

No, he’s been a bit underwhelming tbh.
Yup. Needs to improve fast if he wants to be part of this squad.
He's been given very little time to impress. 15  mins here and there is not enough. Give him a chance.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 10:20:58 PM
I’m pretty positive - we’ve just beat two big European sides. Also Valencia tried to kick us off the park and we saw them off.
Valencia came 16th last season. They aren't that good
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Olneythelonely on August 05, 2023, 10:21:56 PM
I’m pretty positive - we’ve just beat two big European sides. Also Valencia tried to kick us off the park and we saw them off.
Valencia came 16th last season. They aren't that good

You’re right. We should have just lost instead.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pelty on August 05, 2023, 10:22:36 PM
Does today make people feel better, worse, or unchanged about where we stand for next week? I feel a little worse if this lineup stands.

I’m not going to judge today in isolation. 2nd game in 48 hours and we still comfortably won. So unchanged really.

Taking the pre-season as a whole, I’m as excited about a season as I ever remember being.

That is very fair; I was thinking of today being more the “starting lineup” and neglected to think of the “two games in 48 hours” piece which could makes anyone sluggish. That said, we need to be able to handle the quicker turnaround. Unai will handle it, so that does not worry me. Just was unimpressed by the Torres-Bailey axis and concerned about that being the lineup on Saturday.

I agree that I am more excited than ever about this season!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Ducksworthy on August 05, 2023, 10:25:09 PM
I’m pretty positive - we’ve just beat two big European sides. Also Valencia tried to kick us off the park and we saw them off.

Any time there’s a big push-and-shove silliness, I like seeing Tyrone just march through a rabble with people bouncing off him, calm as anything, to settle things down.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 05, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
Ignoring Walsall which was just a leg stretcher, we’ve scored at least two goals in every match pre-season, stayed unbeaten and deserved to win every match.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: alan_clarke on August 05, 2023, 10:27:25 PM
Imagine being Archer and having just played in front of the Boro midfield for the last 12 months, and now having the prospect of this lot serving him up this season. He’ll be desperate for more minutes.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 10:28:12 PM
Imagine being Archer and having just played in front of the Boro midfield for the last 12 months, and now having the prospect of this lot serving him up this season. He’ll be desperate for more minutes.
Almost got his goal tonight
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Beard82 on August 05, 2023, 10:29:22 PM
My biggest concern is having Olsen in goal when Martinez goes on a weeklong bender after winning the Orange Cup
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: VillaTim on August 05, 2023, 10:33:45 PM
My biggest concern is having Olsen in goal when Martinez goes on a weeklong bender after winning the Orange Cup
ha , yeah he'll have the Mbappe doll out again later
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:34:30 PM
Does today make people feel better, worse, or unchanged about where we stand for next week? I feel a little worse if this lineup stands.

I’m not going to judge today in isolation. 2nd game in 48 hours and we still comfortably won. So unchanged really.

Taking the pre-season as a whole, I’m as excited about a season as I ever remember being.

That is very fair; I was thinking of today being more the “starting lineup” and neglected to think of the “two games in 48 hours” piece which could makes anyone sluggish. That said, we need to be able to handle the quicker turnaround. Unai will handle it, so that does not worry me. Just was unimpressed by the Torres-Bailey axis and concerned about that being the lineup on Saturday.

I agree that I am more excited than ever about this season!

The spell in which we absolutely ran that match tonight was marvellous to watch.

I will be amazed if we start with Torres at LB at Newcastle, or if Bailey starts.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:35:12 PM
My biggest concern is having Olsen in goal when Martinez goes on a weeklong bender after winning the Orange Cup

At last, a companion piece in the trophy cabinet for the Peace Cup.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 05, 2023, 10:36:41 PM
We already have a new companion piece

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2zBAAKWYAAzd7b?format=webp&name=small)
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 05, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
Yes, that's the one we were talking about!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 10:39:18 PM
My biggest concern is having Olsen in goal when Martinez goes on a weeklong bender after winning the Orange Cup

My biggest concern is whether the trophy room in the new North Stand will be large enough.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on August 05, 2023, 10:44:50 PM
Bring on the Toon. I can't wait.

Emery or Howe? I know which one Id want, every day of every week
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Skerra on August 05, 2023, 10:46:57 PM
Doubt he will start with either Torres or Bailey next week. We looked poor down our left side with those two. I get the feeling that we won’t be signing another striker either but, by and large, we now have a fairly strong squad.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 05, 2023, 10:47:41 PM
Emery or Howe? I know which one Id want, every day of every week

This, with bells on.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astral Weeks on August 05, 2023, 11:09:10 PM
Emery or Howe? I know which one Id want, every day of every week

This, with bells on.
And twice on Sundays!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 05, 2023, 11:11:06 PM
It's an obvious choice, but for now Emery is doing ok until we can get Howe.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: djbone on August 05, 2023, 11:15:39 PM
For others who threw away a fiver on that shocking Villa TV stream, you can email them to complain and get a refund - villatv@avfc.co.uk. 

The poor bloke's probably gone home now but they got back to me in less than 5 minutes confirming a refund (and blaming the feed they got from Valencia), so presume there's been a loads of complaints.  Yes, I'm tight, but if enough people complain maybe, just maybe, they'll try harder in future.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 11:17:02 PM
It's an obvious choice, but for now Emery is doing ok until we can get Howe.

My biggest worry is Emery leaving us for Pelsall Villa as he attempts to complete the Villa set in his career
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2023, 11:20:58 PM
For others who threw away a fiver on that shocking Villa TV stream, you can email them to complain and get a refund - villatv@avfc.co.uk. 

The poor bloke's probably gone home now but they got back to me in less than 5 minutes confirming a refund (and blaming the feed they got from Valencia), so presume there's been a loads of complaints.  Yes, I'm tight, but if enough people complain maybe, just maybe, they'll try harder in future.

So the broadcast problems have been in Walsall and Valencia and nothing to do with us filming the game through an iPhone 3 with a cracked screen and a using a dial up internet service provider?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 05, 2023, 11:57:00 PM
Torres isn’t ready for the role he’s been given. In time, maybe, but not yet. He’s not shifting Mings either. He’ll get plenty of game time in the cups though. Kamara first half and Couthino 2nd were the stand out performers. Diaby wasn’t that involved but didn’t get much service. We’ now have options throughout the squad. Archer is ready too.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Matt C on August 06, 2023, 12:41:43 AM
It’s very difficult to pick our best eleven, plenty of options and suspect we’ll have one or two more by the end of the month. We’re in good shape.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2023, 12:44:49 AM
Torres isn’t ready for the role he’s been given. In time, maybe, but not yet. He’s not shifting Mings either. He’ll get plenty of game time in the cups though. Kamara first half and Couthino 2nd were the stand out performers. Diaby wasn’t that involved but didn’t get much service. We’ now have options throughout the squad. Archer is ready too.

Agree with the rest of that - esp Torres, remember how Moreno struggled at first - but not really sure of the evidence that Archer is ready?
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: sid1964 on August 06, 2023, 06:23:55 AM
Torres is not a left back - if the idea to sign him was due to his passing from defence into midfield, then he would be wasted at left back

Bailey every time he got the ball he either fell over or lost possession

Last night as a team we gave the ball away too often and our passing was poor, against a better side who had better forwards we may have lost the game

Plenty of mr Emery to work on this week

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 06, 2023, 07:20:04 AM
Torres is not a left back - if the idea to sign him was due to his passing from defence into midfield, then he would be wasted at left back

Bailey every time he got the ball he either fell over or lost possession

Last night as a team we gave the ball away too often and our passing was poor, against a better side who had better forwards we may have lost the game

Plenty of mr Emery to work on this week



Bloody hell my chips have been well and truly pissed on. In a pretty full stadium, with Valencia putting in some savoury tackles I thought we dominated most of the game. For the first time this pre eason 2nd half changes made us better. How many teams would love to be able to bring on a Tielemans or a Coutiniho
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 06, 2023, 08:17:37 AM
Torres is not a left back - if the idea to sign him was due to his passing from defence into midfield, then he would be wasted at left back

Bailey every time he got the ball he either fell over or lost possession

Last night as a team we gave the ball away too often and our passing was poor, against a better side who had better forwards we may have lost the game

Plenty of mr Emery to work on this week



Bloody hell my chips have been well and truly pissed on. In a pretty full stadium, with Valencia putting in some savoury tackles I thought we dominated most of the game. For the first time this pre eason 2nd half changes made us better. How many teams would love to be able to bring on a Tielemans or a Coutiniho

I thought we were better 2nd half vrs Lazio…but Im just be pedantic. I get your point.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 06, 2023, 08:28:43 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2023, 08:34:28 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Seems a pointless endeavour though. Why spend all that money on a Spanish international centre back to then try to shoehorn him into a position he clearly isn’t comfortable in? We’ve got two very good left backs as it is, and Torres doesn’t add anything at all playing there.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 06, 2023, 08:38:09 AM
We already have a new companion piece

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2zBAAKWYAAzd7b?format=webp&name=small)
a lovely picture with our first silverware under Emery. Digne should have had his shirt on. Who s the tall one behind on the left , higher than Mings, Torres and Olsen, that is tall tall
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: leylandalbion on August 06, 2023, 08:45:07 AM
Zych I would imagine the back up, back up goalie
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Astnor on August 06, 2023, 08:52:45 AM
Impressions from second half yesterday;
- Interplay between Couthinho and Buendia and Tielemans - better than Brazil 1970 - the second goal fx
- Digne and Buendia made us solid at our left
- Archer and the young  winger with the long name did them self no harm
I was a bit disappointed after first half and thought that woudnt be good enough for Newcastle. Still the Newcastle game wil be a lot tougher that than friendlies of course and I m not sure we will get anything there but beat Everton in the game after that for sure.

Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: brontebilly on August 06, 2023, 09:13:34 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: AV84 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:45 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

It does feel a little bit like he's wanted him since January but in that time Konsa and Mings have become a pretty formidable partnership, but we went ahead and signed Torres anyway. I mean, we definitely need options and cover in all positions, but a player like Torres doesn't feel like one you sign to be the back up guy.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 06, 2023, 09:35:03 AM
Why is it odd? We could have 50+ games, we’re going to need quality options in all positions but especially centre back. We’ve got 4/5 options, that’s hardly insane.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 06, 2023, 09:38:00 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

Ive seen signs of absolute quality with Torres in the limited times he’s played CB for us. He needs to settle in and it will take time, but there were lots on here questioning the quality of Moreno and the need to prioritise a left back, for a number of weeks, before all became clear.
Mings is obviously still the main man and quite rightly so, but I’d say Torres will start the Euro/cup games at CB and will eventually becomes a mainstay.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Chris Smith on August 06, 2023, 09:40:28 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

We’ll need to rotate players due to the extra games this season so we needed another centre back regardless.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 06, 2023, 09:45:14 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.
Maybe he's looking at alternative cover while Moreno is out!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Clampy on August 06, 2023, 09:48:19 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

It's common for a manager to sign a player he's worked with before (and rates highly) so it's not that odd really.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 06, 2023, 09:56:09 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

Maybe he's looking at alternative cover while Moreno is out!

That's my take too, just giving Torres some minutes at left back in case something happens to Digne whilst Moreno is still out.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 06, 2023, 10:00:31 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

Maybe he's looking at alternative cover while Moreno is out!

That's my take too, just giving Torres some minutes at left back in case something happens to Digne whilst Moreno is still out.
Multiple options will keep the opposition guessing, they won't have a clue who or what our starting lineup will be.
By the time they work it out the Maestro will change everything!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Somniloquism on August 06, 2023, 10:11:25 AM
Bring on the Toon. I can't wait.

Emery or Howe? I know which one Id want, every day of every week

It will be an interesting match as currently we do seem very even.

We drew them 3-3 in USA, beat Fulham and drew with Brentford (they drew with Chelsea and beat Brighton).

Then we both played Italian opposition at "home" and we won 3-0 and they won 2-0. Now we both play Spanish opposition away where we have already won. So we seem to currently be evenly matched in terms of results.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: eamonn on August 06, 2023, 11:20:23 AM
How come Chelsea won that friendly cup in the US when we never even played them? We wudda wiped the floor wiv'em.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: The Edge on August 06, 2023, 11:59:08 AM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

Maybe he's looking at alternative cover while Moreno is out!

That's my take too, just giving Torres some minutes at left back in case something happens to Digne whilst Moreno is still out.
Multiple options will keep the opposition guessing, they won't have a clue who or what our starting lineup will be.
By the time they work it out the Maestro will change everything!
The Maestro. I like that. Hope it sticks.
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Dogtanian on August 06, 2023, 02:59:33 PM
The Torres thing hasn’t looked quite right but if we know anything about our manager is that he will put in the time and effort to make it work.

Just hope it isn't one of those cases where a manager doubles down on trying to make it work despite all evidence on the contrary. Torres is an odd signing for me.

Maybe he's looking at alternative cover while Moreno is out!

That's my take too, just giving Torres some minutes at left back in case something happens to Digne whilst Moreno is still out.
Multiple options will keep the opposition guessing, they won't have a clue who or what our starting lineup will be.
By the time they work it out the Maestro will change everything!
The Maestro. I like that. Hope it sticks.

Don’t downplay the MacPhee contribution. Who knows where the Austin-Maestro partnership could take us!
Title: Re: Pre-season 2023/24
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 06, 2023, 03:03:19 PM
Multiple options will keep the opposition guessing, they won't have a clue who or what our starting lineup will be.
By the time they work it out the Maestro will change everything!
The Maestro. I like that. Hope it sticks.

Don’t downplay the MacPhee contribution. Who knows where the Austin-Maestro partnership could take us!

:D Hopefully our version is more successful and a bit easier on the eye.
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