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Title: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: BC Villain on March 14, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
Wow, the sound still makes the back of my neck stand on end. 

https://youtu.be/D2k6kKn5qao
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Risso on March 15, 2023, 09:31:46 AM
Brilliant goal.

As an aside, why does all 1990s footage look like it was recorded in the 1890s?!
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: LeeB on March 15, 2023, 09:32:02 AM
Edited: wrong goal dickhead
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 15, 2023, 09:34:25 AM
Brilliant goal.

As an aside, why does all 1990s footage look like it was recorded in the 1890s?!

You've gotten used to super duper HD as the norm instead of old fashioned SD I'd guess.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 15, 2023, 09:59:04 AM
He scored a similar one later that year on opening day vs QPR which left Tony Gubba in an orgasm. "Staunton.... OH, STAUNTON! He doesn't score simple goals does he, Steve Stsunton? Everyone's a blinder!"
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 15, 2023, 09:59:37 AM
Loved BFR trying to be all non emotional and picking at his teeth
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 15, 2023, 11:29:56 AM
Remember it well, watched it in a Dublin pub with some Yanited fans and for a few brief minutes thought we really would win the league.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: dave shelley on March 15, 2023, 12:31:56 PM
I watched it in a pub here in town with a Manc supporting mate.  Everyone in there were plastics, the noise I made when that went in did me proud.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: eamonn on March 15, 2023, 03:44:44 PM
I was at my schoolfriend's 8th birthday party, worrying all afternoon about the score. Vaguely remember RTE sports news showing the goals briefly and I felt so relieved that we hadn't lost.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 15, 2023, 04:04:26 PM
I watched this goal in a pub after a parachute jump I was due to take part in at Halfpenny Green Airport was cancelled due to weather conditions (too much wind I believe). What a shot! What a goal!
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Dr Butler on March 15, 2023, 04:18:06 PM
and Paul McGrath playing as a winger....:)

a great goal and as someone said I thought we would win the league that season...

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Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Matt C on March 18, 2023, 01:55:40 PM
The sound the ball makes as it hits the back stick is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Lucky Eddie on March 21, 2023, 08:40:40 PM
A goal so wonderful it perfectly balances out the disgraceful way he treated us at the end of his contract.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 31, 2023, 10:45:40 PM
Great goal.

Also remember one he scored at VP in 1997 v Sheff Weds from about 40 yards out. Not sure why it's changed but you just don't see strikes like that in football anymore.

It's a cliche but Staunton really did have a wand of a left foot.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 31, 2023, 11:50:58 PM
I was in the lower Holte for the Weds one and knew nearly straight away it was in as was behind it

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Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 01, 2023, 12:20:44 AM
Yeah, I was on the Lower Holte that day, though not right behind the line like you.

Stan scored a few of these over the years, including a late winner at Cov in the same season.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Rory on April 01, 2023, 03:19:25 AM
Yeah, he did have one hell of a left foot. I think I remember a game I taped the highlights of as a kid, when we beat Wimbledon 5-0 (?)

He was running full pelt down the left, had basically run out of pitch, then out of nowhere whipped in a cross that had the power of a Roberto Carlos free kick.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 04, 2023, 11:39:03 PM
Yes, he did have that 'whip' in his crosses that made him such a dangerous deliverer of dead balls, apart from his shooting.

I loved his attitude, too -whenever Villa were struggling, he always wanted the ball.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 05, 2023, 10:47:35 PM
That Wimbledon game he crossed from the wing- playing from centre back - for Taylor to score. 1994-95 he was getting assists most weeks playing as a left midfielder for a lot of it once Brian Little had joined. Free kick wise I remember three really - one he scored vs Everton, the second vs Bilbao in the UEFA Cup when he put a really venomous shot in on goal.  The other was in the cup final when he forced a safe from Les Sealey. He scored at least twice direct from a corner too.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on April 08, 2023, 12:40:31 AM
I remember him crossing this great ball right on to Deano's nut at Hillsborough, with DS glancing it into the net in a 2-1 win in 1995.

I couldn't stop myself celebrating, even though I was in with the home fans.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: eamonn on April 10, 2023, 11:24:41 AM
Not appropriate to mark it with a new thread, but it's 30 years to the day today that Fergie Time was invented with those late goals against Wednesday turning the title away from us.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 10, 2023, 11:50:37 AM
Not appropriate to mark it with a new thread, but it's 30 years to the day today that Fergie Time was invented with those late goals against Wednesday turning the title away from us.

Still makes me angry whenever I get reminded. What was the 95th and 97th minutes for a game with virtually no stoppages?
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Post by: Scratchins on April 10, 2023, 12:28:41 PM
Same here, it still raises my hackles. I got down from the top of the North Stand, round the ground and had reached Aston Hall when they scored.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 10, 2023, 01:05:26 PM
Memory tells us both goals were in injury time but the first one was 86th min, a Weds defender on the line making no effort to try and stop it. The other was late on but we tend to also forget that the ref got crocked and had to be replaced and by all accounts Sheff Weds did a mass of time wasting.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 10, 2023, 02:30:47 PM
Bloody hell  you can prove anything with facts. 😁
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: rob_bridge on April 10, 2023, 07:30:37 PM
It was bollocks and still borderline at the time as to how much they added on IIRC.

However, we had run out of ideas and steam, as was demonstrated v Cov that day.  nicked a goal win at Highbury a few days later but they had 2 Cup Finals coming up. And beat Cit-eh who gifted us the game the next one. We were playing catch up after Cov game. We win that one and the pressure heaps back to them and they hadn't handled it well the year before.
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Post by: LeeB on April 11, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
It was bollocks and still borderline at the time as to how much they added on IIRC.

However, we had run out of ideas and steam, as was demonstrated v Cov that day.  nicked a goal win at Highbury a few days later but they had 2 Cup Finals coming up. And beat Cit-eh who gifted us the game the next one. We were playing catch up after Cov game. We win that one and the pressure heaps back to them and they hadn't handled it well the year before.

They won their last 7 games, there wasn't any room to make the slips we did. Not putting Cov away, losing at Norwich and Sid taking us apart at Blackburn killed us
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: eamonn on April 11, 2023, 05:50:55 PM
I remember hearing we were three down at Blackburn, I was on the front green playing football with neighbours. I couldn't believe it. Hope Sid apologised in any post-match interviews.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Nev on April 11, 2023, 07:38:46 PM
I was there. We had a limited allocation due to redevelopment and they put us in their ancient main stand. I recall walking through the tiny, wooden corridor to the toilet at HT, stunned at the score with Duran Durans latest single echoing in the background, aptly titled "Come Undone".

The feeling of loss and desolation, knowing it was all but gone and to lose it to them of all teams. I've never got over it.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: AV82EC on April 12, 2023, 11:26:55 AM
I was there. We had a limited allocation due to redevelopment and they put us in their ancient main stand. I recall walking through the tiny, wooden corridor to the toilet at HT, stunned at the score with Duran Durans latest single echoing in the background, aptly titled "Come Undone".

The feeling of loss and desolation, knowing it was all but gone and to lose it to them of all teams. I've never got over it.

The thing about that Blackburn game was we should have been 2 up before they scored. Oh that and rushing Dalian back into the team at Yorkes expense.

However the two home 0-0 draws with Spurs and Cov were what did for us.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: JD on April 14, 2023, 10:51:30 AM
I was there. We had a limited allocation due to redevelopment and they put us in their ancient main stand. I recall walking through the tiny, wooden corridor to the toilet at HT, stunned at the score with Duran Durans latest single echoing in the background, aptly titled "Come Undone".

The feeling of loss and desolation, knowing it was all but gone and to lose it to them of all teams. I've never got over it.

The thing about that Blackburn game was we should have been 2 up before they scored. Oh that and rushing Dalian back into the team at Yorkes expense.

However the two home 0-0 draws with Spurs and Cov were what did for us.
I went to both home games against Coventry & Spurs, very frustrating. We totally dominated both games and should have won both about 3-4 nil. Our luck just ran out. How many times did Deano hit the woodwork in the run in, when prior to that everything was hitting the back of the net. 
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: LeeB on April 14, 2023, 11:17:38 AM
That clearance off the line by Justin Edinburgh
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Post by: PeterWithe on April 14, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
I think that might have been the Spurs game I went in the away end as the Holte had filled and we were locked out. As many Villa in there as Spurs fans.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Beard82 on April 14, 2023, 11:39:38 AM
If we had won the league in that season, do you think the next 10 years would have panned out differently?

Personally - I don't think it would have been that different but I was only 12 at the time
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2023, 12:05:36 PM
If we had won the league in that season, do you think the next 10 years would have panned out differently?

Personally - I don't think it would have been that different but I was only 12 at the time

I don't think it would have changed much. The only possible question is whether Ferguson would have stayed there after losing out twice.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Risso on April 14, 2023, 01:24:37 PM
If we had won the league in that season, do you think the next 10 years would have panned out differently?

Personally - I don't think it would have been that different but I was only 12 at the time

I don't think it would have changed much. The only possible question is whether Ferguson would have stayed there after losing out twice.

The main thing that happened is that Ellis carried on running Villa like the provincial businessman he was. Man U realised the opportunity the Premier League was bringing in and reacted accordingly. That mindset combined with Ferguson's managerial ability was a tremendously powerful combination. Same with Arsenal and Wenger. Liverpool had the global reach but never really picked the right manager to capitalise on it.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: eamonn on April 14, 2023, 06:17:16 PM
I was there. We had a limited allocation due to redevelopment and they put us in their ancient main stand. I recall walking through the tiny, wooden corridor to the toilet at HT, stunned at the score with Duran Durans latest single echoing in the background, aptly titled "Come Undone".

The feeling of loss and desolation, knowing it was all but gone and to lose it to them of all teams. I've never got over it.

The thing about that Blackburn game was we should have been 2 up before they scored. Oh that and rushing Dalian back into the team at Yorkes expense.

However the two home 0-0 draws with Spurs and Cov were what did for us.
I went to both home games against Coventry & Spurs, very frustrating. We totally dominated both games and should have won both about 3-4 nil. Our luck just ran out. How many times did Deano hit the woodwork in the run in, when prior to that everything was hitting the back of the net. 

Yeah but what was our xG in those games...
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: AV82EC on April 14, 2023, 09:38:23 PM
If we had won the league in that season, do you think the next 10 years would have panned out differently?

Personally - I don't think it would have been that different but I was only 12 at the time

I don't think it would have changed much. The only possible question is whether Ferguson would have stayed there after losing out twice.

The main thing that happened is that Ellis carried on running Villa like the provincial businessman he was. Man U realised the opportunity the Premier League was bringing in and reacted accordingly. That mindset combined with Ferguson's managerial ability was a tremendously powerful combination. Same with Arsenal and Wenger. Liverpool had the global reach but never really picked the right manager to capitalise on it.

At least Liverpool kept on ticking the trophy count over though even if not at the same rate as the seventies/eighties.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: BC Villain on April 27, 2023, 09:40:25 PM
If we had won the league in that season, do you think the next 10 years would have panned out differently?

Personally - I don't think it would have been that different but I was only 12 at the time

I don't think it would have changed much. The only possible question is whether Ferguson would have stayed there after losing out twice.

The main thing that happened is that Ellis carried on running Villa like the provincial businessman he was. Man U realised the opportunity the Premier League was bringing in and reacted accordingly. That mindset combined with Ferguson's managerial ability was a tremendously powerful combination. Same with Arsenal and Wenger. Liverpool had the global reach but never really picked the right manager to capitalise on it.

Very true.  Atkinson was soon being overtaken by more modern managers by 93.  Winning the league Cup papered over the cracks in 94, as we were generally underwhelming in the league for the rest of his reign.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: Matt C on June 23, 2023, 02:10:09 AM
The thud on the post sound is glorious
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: CorkVilla on June 23, 2023, 03:20:30 AM
How does one score a goal directly from a corner kick? Seems almost impossible but Staunton used to do it quite often. I remember him doing it at least twice for Ireland.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: eamonn on June 23, 2023, 12:24:16 PM
How does one score a goal directly from a corner kick? Seems almost impossible but Staunton used to do it quite often. I remember him doing it at least twice for Ireland.

Thankfully, his spirit lives on in Dougee Luiz.
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Post by: dave shelley on June 23, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
The first goal scored direct from a corner if my memory holds up was by Harry Burrows at home to Leyton Orient about 1961/62.  They were rare back then, at least for me.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on June 30, 2023, 12:19:02 AM
I vaguely remember Johnny McLeod scoring direct from a right-wing corner against Charlton Athletic in January 1968 in a 4-1 win.
Title: Re: 30 years ago - Stans "crackerjack"
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 01, 2023, 12:32:43 AM
I'll correct myself!

It was at home to Derby County two weeks earlier.
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