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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Martyn Smith on February 21, 2023, 04:19:30 PM

Title: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Martyn Smith on February 21, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Of which clubs have you visited both their old and current grounds.

For me it's just two so far: Reading and Southampton. London Stadium on the 12th will make West Ham #3
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Martin Carruthers on February 21, 2023, 04:32:36 PM
Manchester City (& Wembley, not a club).
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Bernie on February 21, 2023, 04:49:41 PM
Since I stopped going regularly to matched during the 1980s I have not been to any of the 'new ' grounds at all.
I did however go to Eastville when we played Bristol Rovers in 1971 and in more recent years have been to a couple of Rovers' matches at the Mem. (Memorial Stadium).
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Kevin Dawson on February 21, 2023, 04:49:57 PM
Clevedon Town - both Teignmouth Road and The Hand Stadium.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 21, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
I've got two.
Man City and Derby County.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Martyn Smith on February 21, 2023, 06:13:15 PM
I've got two.
Man City and Derby County.

Went to Maine Road a couple of times but not yet the Etihad. Never got to the Baseball Ground but have visited Pride Park
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 21, 2023, 06:20:45 PM
Doncaster Rovers
Arsenal
Spurs (NFL at the new one)
Shrewsbury Town (England u-21s at new one)
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dave shelley on February 21, 2023, 06:22:19 PM
Just the one, Coventry, Highfield Road and whatever it was called in 2012 when I went there for the Olympics ladies football.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 21, 2023, 06:22:43 PM
Walsall, Huddersfield, Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Doncaster, Wigan, Manchester City, Bolton, Stoke, Shrewsbury, Hull, Arsenal, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Chester and Reading, plus Villa, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wimbledon and Fulham at different grounds.

 
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 21, 2023, 06:25:30 PM
As referenced by Dave W, I went to both the Villa "home" games in the 2000 Intertoto as well.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 21, 2023, 06:26:50 PM
I think Daves won. (Or lost depending on how the visits and results went!!)
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: FrankyH on February 21, 2023, 07:37:02 PM
Sunderland, Stoke, Arsenal, Wembley & Leicester
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 21, 2023, 08:16:17 PM
Reading, Oxford, Bristol Rovers and, if you include Bruce Springsteen concerts, Arsenal and Coventry.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: rougegorge on February 21, 2023, 09:10:19 PM
Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham, Brighton, Leicester, West Ham, Southampton , Coventry, Swansea, Hull, Stoke, Cardiff , Huddersfield , Bolton, Derby, Burton, Walsall, Wembley
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 21, 2023, 09:34:20 PM
Walsall, Stoke, Coventry, Chester, Bolton and Wembley
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dave shelley on February 21, 2023, 09:39:00 PM
I forgot, I've done both Walsall's grounds. Fellowe's Park many times.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Rory on February 22, 2023, 05:01:49 AM
Walsall, Huddersfield, Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Doncaster, Wigan, Manchester City, Bolton, Stoke, Shrewsbury, Hull, Arsenal, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Chester and Reading, plus Villa, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wimbledon and Fulham at different grounds.

Not many then?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Risso on February 22, 2023, 08:48:16 AM
Arsenal, Sunderland, Leicester, Bolton, Wigan, Northampton, West Ham, Spurs, Man City, Hull, Milton Keynes
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 22, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
Arsenal, Fluminense, Vasco da Gama and Wembley. Will add West Ham at some stage as a mate has 2 season tickets there but doesn't live in the UK.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 22, 2023, 10:58:15 PM
Derby, Doncaster, Walsall and Wembley for me.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: trinityoap on February 23, 2023, 10:04:07 AM
The ones I can remember, in no particular order, are Man City,Scunthorpe,Doncaster,Southampton,Reading,Arsenal,Bolton,Derby,Hull,M'boro,Leicester,Chester,Wigan,Walsall,Swindon,Stoke,Sunderland,
Swansea and Huddersfield.
Does St. Andrews count as different grounds depending on how many stands are open/in existence?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Dave Cooper please on February 23, 2023, 10:25:17 AM
Most of Dave W's list (not Huddersfield or Arsenal though) plus Stamford, Brentford, Inverness City, Burton Albion, Curzon Ashton, Morecambe, York City. Can I count Gloucester City as they built a new ground on the site of the old one but a few feet higher?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: PGW on February 23, 2023, 10:53:58 AM
Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Derby, Cardiff, Reading, Sunderland, Man. City, Brighton, Southampton, Swansea, Stoke, Rotherham, Bolton, Shrewsbury, Walsall,
Huddersfield, Middlesbro, Leicester
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 23, 2023, 12:46:50 PM
Have been to White Hart Lane and Tottingham's new ground.

Also Selhurst Park and Kingsmeadow; 2 former Wimbledon grounds.

Have been to St Andrews and Damson Park; so Blues current and future stadiums.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 23, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
Oh and both Wembleys
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Dave P on February 24, 2023, 08:58:00 AM
Leicester, Man City, Derby, Arsenal, Shrewsbury, Coventry, Wembley.

I've done the old Spurs, West Ham and Brentford grounds but not the new yet.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Martyn Smith on February 24, 2023, 12:59:24 PM
As referenced by Dave W, I went to both the Villa "home" games in the 2000 Intertoto as well.

Yes I went to those. I remember us singing 'what'a it like to see a crowd?'. Think there was about 9,000 of us each time...
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 24, 2023, 11:10:56 PM
Oh, and Chesterfield as well.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Dave Cooper please on February 25, 2023, 10:23:19 AM

Have been to St Andrews and Damson Park; so Blues current and future stadiums.


There's a point, can we count Moor Green? Watched them loads of times at their old ground before they merged with Solihull Borough and have been to Damson Park a few times.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 25, 2023, 11:56:41 AM

Have been to St Andrews and Damson Park; so Blues current and future stadiums.


There's a point, can we count Moor Green? Watched them loads of times at their old ground before they merged with Solihull Borough and have been to Damson Park a few times.
Slightly strangely I played at the old Solihull Borough ground on Widney Lane as a kid and have played at Damson Park as an adult but have never watched a senior game at either.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: nordenvillain on February 25, 2023, 12:19:21 PM
Bolton, Wigan, Man City, Hull, Middlesborough, Rotherham and Wembley.

The old Wigan and Hull grounds were definitely the most open and soulless grounds I have ever been to.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Des Little on February 28, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Doncaster, Manchester City, Bolton, Stoke, Arsenal, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Brentford, West Ham, Southampton, Oxford, plus Wembley and Charlton/Wimbledon/Fulham at different grounds
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Risso on February 28, 2023, 02:44:50 PM
Bolton, Wigan, Man City, Hull, Middlesborough, Rotherham and Wembley.

The old Wigan and Hull grounds were definitely the most open and soulless grounds I have ever been to.

I liked Sprigfield Park. I can't say it was vastly different to most lower league grounds of its day to be honest, and soulless isn't a word I'd use. That for me is more the identikit new grounds.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 01, 2023, 12:32:44 AM
Agreed. A lot of the old grounds had a lot going for them.

Derby's Baseball Ground was a good example -stands that were tight to the pitch. On cup nights, the atmosphere was amazing.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 01, 2023, 07:07:52 AM
Tend to find new Bowl grounds more soulless. They're usually stuck on a motorway nowhere near the centre of town/city and are a bit indentikit.

Reading comes to mind, although the game I went to there was a Cracker.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: joe_c on March 02, 2023, 10:15:03 AM
Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Man City, Wembley. Been to both Coventrys (Coventries?) but only seen concerts at the new edition, a California funk rock band whose name I don't recall and Bruce Springsteen.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: simboy on March 02, 2023, 10:25:38 AM
Derby, Man City, Leicester, Middlesbrough, Arsenal, Wembley, Walsall.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Risso on March 02, 2023, 12:05:13 PM
I've been to Spurs as well but wasn't sure if it counted if it's on the same site?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 02, 2023, 02:33:49 PM
Aresenal, Man City, Southampton, Hull City, Middlesbrough, Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan Athletic, Bolton Wanderers, Derby County, Oxford United, Shrewsbury Town, Doncaster Rovers, Walsall, and Chester. Plus old and new Wembley. Wimbledon at the original Plough Lane then Selhurst Park. If I'm really stretching it, Paget Rangers at 5 different places.. Springfield Road Walmley, Castle Vale, Boldmere St Michaels, Sutton Town, and the old Gas ground in Erdington. Admittedly Boldmere and Sutton wasn't to watch Paget, and the Gas ground was for a function.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 02, 2023, 02:59:52 PM
Bolton, Wigan, Man City, Hull, Middlesborough, Rotherham and Wembley.

The old Wigan and Hull grounds were definitely the most open and soulless grounds I have ever been to.

I liked Sprigfield Park. I can't say it was vastly different to most lower league grounds of its day to be honest, and soulless isn't a word I'd use. That for me is more the identikit new grounds.

Wigans Springfield Park was certainly very open, Lancashires answer to The Shay at Halifax.  I think both of them has Speedway tracks round the pitch.
As for Hull City being souless,  I can remember sitting in the stand seeing trains  arriving at Boothferry Park Halt. The railway station operated purely for match days.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: LeeB on March 02, 2023, 03:39:56 PM
Aresenal, Man City, Southampton, Hull City, Middlesbrough, Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan Athletic, Bolton Wanderers, Derby County, Oxford United, Shrewsbury Town, Doncaster Rovers, Walsall, and Chester. Plus old and new Wembley. Wimbledon at the original Plough Lane then Selhurst Park. If I'm really stretching it, Paget Rangers at 5 different places.. Springfield Road Walmley, Castle Vale, Boldmere St Michaels, Sutton Town, and the old Gas ground in Erdington. Admittedly Boldmere and Sutton wasn't to watch Paget, and the Gas ground was for a function.

I've played on all of those Paget pitches listed
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Risso on March 02, 2023, 03:55:22 PM
Bolton, Wigan, Man City, Hull, Middlesborough, Rotherham and Wembley.

The old Wigan and Hull grounds were definitely the most open and soulless grounds I have ever been to.

I liked Sprigfield Park. I can't say it was vastly different to most lower league grounds of its day to be honest, and soulless isn't a word I'd use. That for me is more the identikit new grounds.

Wigans Springfield Park was certainly very open, Lancashires answer to The Shay at Halifax.  I think both of them has Speedway tracks round the pitch.
As for Hull City being souless,  I can remember sitting in the stand seeing trains  arriving at Boothferry Park Halt. The railway station operated purely for match days.

I'm fairly certain Springfield Park never had a speedway track, at least it didn't when I was there. There used to be a speedway track in another part of Wigan called Poolstock, but that was demolished in the 70s I think.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: LeeB on March 02, 2023, 04:17:53 PM
What was the fucking point of Speedway exactly?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 02, 2023, 04:47:03 PM
Bolton, Wigan, Man City, Hull, Middlesborough, Rotherham and Wembley.

The old Wigan and Hull grounds were definitely the most open and soulless grounds I have ever been to.

I liked Sprigfield Park. I can't say it was vastly different to most lower league grounds of its day to be honest, and soulless isn't a word I'd use. That for me is more the identikit new grounds.

Wigans Springfield Park was certainly very open, Lancashires answer to The Shay at Halifax.  I think both of them has Speedway tracks round the pitch.
As for Hull City being souless,  I can remember sitting in the stand seeing trains  arriving at Boothferry Park Halt. The railway station operated purely for match days.

I'm fairly certain Springfield Park never had a speedway track, at least it didn't when I was there. There used to be a speedway track in another part of Wigan called Poolstock, but that was demolished in the 70s I think.

I've checked, your right. But it was used by almost anybody vaguely wigany and most sports other than speedway.

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The stadium had previously been home to Wigan County, Wigan United, Wigan Town, and Wigan Borough (previously Wigan United and Wigan Association) as well as Wigan and Springfield Borough rugby league sides. It was also used for horse trotting, as a track cycling velodrome, for wrestling and for athletics

You can see the horse trotting here. Not sure which carriage Nii Lamptey was in.

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-trotting-match-at-springfield-park-wigan-1904-1904-online



 
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 02, 2023, 05:04:50 PM
Sporting and Benfica.
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 02, 2023, 09:07:46 PM
Clubs that I have done more than one ground at :
West Spam
Spurs
Arsenal
Colchester
Middlesborough
Brighton
Bristol Rovers
Shrewsbury
Man Citee
Does Charlton count? and have seen Charlton  at three different grounds
Millwall
Coventry been the Rioch but not with Villa
Sunderland
Donny
Derby
southampton
Walsall (never went to Fellows Park to see Villa though)
Bolton and that silly supermarket
Wigan (never went Springfield Park with Villa though)
Leicester
Chelmsford City neither with Villa
York City (new ground not with Villa)
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: algy on March 03, 2023, 07:49:43 AM
Manc City
Bolton Wanderers
Shrewsbury Town
Wembley
Wimbledon (Plough Lane & Selhurst Park)
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: algy on March 03, 2023, 10:17:00 AM
Oh, and I guess - not with Villa, and in one case not to watch football - I've visited Queen's Park's new (Hampden) and old (Cathkin Park) grounds.  On the same day.

When I visited ...
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... and in it's pomp (well, not quite - but whilst it was still in use ...)
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Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: Simon Page on March 03, 2023, 10:23:16 AM
Are those ball boys both Alan Ball?
Title: Re: Old and New Grounds
Post by: DeKuip on March 23, 2023, 12:24:10 PM
Walsall, Huddersfield, Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Doncaster, Wigan, Manchester City, Bolton, Stoke, Shrewsbury, Hull, Arsenal, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Chester and Reading, plus Villa, Bristol Rovers, Charlton, Wimbledon and Fulham at different grounds.

Didn’t get to Wellington Road then? No nor me for some reason but surely in this day and age it can be computer generated so we can all go there virtually. In fact I’d love to be able to walk around the original Villa Park that way too, and a 1960s version so I can run down the bank at the back of the old Witton End one more time before I keel over.
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