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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on February 14, 2023, 09:48:51 PM

Title: V Sports
Post by: Legion on February 14, 2023, 09:48:51 PM
Aston Villa can confirm the club’s holding company, V Sports, has entered into a sale and purchase agreement to acquire 46 per cent of the shares in Portuguese club Vitória Sport Clube.

The agreement, which requires ratification by members of Vitória Sport Clube, signals an important step forward in the global expansion of the V Sports portfolio.

Formed in 1922, the Primeira Liga side are an established top-flight club and have competed regularly in European football competitions, reaching the UEFA Cup quarter-final in 1987. They also faced Villa in the same competition in 1983.

V Sports aims to create a synergy amongst clubs in its group that will encourage the sharing of worldwide scouting networks, academy coaching methodologies, best practice and youth academy development strategies across Europe and Africa.

Chairman Nassef Sawiris, a director of V Sports, said: “V Sports is delighted to be partnering with Vitória Sport Clube.

“Discussions, which have been ongoing for almost two years, have progressed thanks to the positive steps taken by the new management team led by Antonio Miguel Cardoso whose energy and vision has been a crucial component in reaching this agreement.”

António Miguel Cardoso, President of Vitória Sport Clube, said: “Since first meeting we found out that Mr Nassef Sawiris is a man of serious commitments and available to be the right partner which VSC needs in this important moment of our history."

Aston Villa Football Club is ultimately wholly owned by V Sports, a joint venture set up by Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens. V Sports purchased Aston Villa in July 2018.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dave P on February 14, 2023, 09:52:07 PM
Does the V stand for Valentine?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Chris Harte on February 14, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
They beat us in a UEFA Cup game about 40 years ago.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 14, 2023, 10:02:12 PM
5.5m euros apparently.

Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: nigel on February 14, 2023, 10:04:51 PM
Needs translating
https://vitoriasc.pt/en/2023/02/14/parceria-da-v-sports-com-o-vitoria-sport-clube/
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 14, 2023, 10:07:00 PM
It seems that whenever our owners are mentioned in the media recently, the emphasis has been on Sawiris every time rather than Edens.

Not suggesting Edens is in any way losing interest, but just a suggestion that Sawiris seems to be the lead partner (see photos re Emery signing).

Could just be because he is UK based, I guess.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Legion on February 14, 2023, 10:08:06 PM
The deal will yield an immediate cash inflow of 5.5 million euros. The club will remain the majority shareholder of the sports company

Vitória Sport Clube has the possibility of securing an economic partner of enormous importance. This is the V Sports fund, led by Nassef Sawiris and owner of Aston Villa FC, which has already reached an agreement with António Miguel Cardoso for the purchase of 46% of SAD shares for 5.5 million euros .

This operation is pending the approval of the members in the General Assembly (to be scheduled soon), in accordance with the electoral commitment assumed by the President of the Club, without prejudice to the fact that, until the date of the Magna Meeting, clarification sessions will be held on the subject.

The associative validation of this operation maintains Vitória SC as the majority shareholder of the sports company (only 3.16% of the share capital is dispersed among small shareholders), and the Board of Directors will now be composed of three administrators from Vitória Sport Clube, Futebol SAD and two affections in the background V Sports S.C.S.

As a result of the established pre-agreement, the future partner of SAD will support the investment of two million euros in infrastructure, to be applied in two years, also making possible a credit line of up to 20 million euros, with interest rate under preferential conditions
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Gareth on February 14, 2023, 10:08:09 PM
Some nice loan opportunities ahead for some of our youngsters
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Legion on February 14, 2023, 10:09:34 PM
Plus a pre-season friendly.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2023, 10:11:38 PM
Have they got a winger we can borrow?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: andyh on February 14, 2023, 10:14:39 PM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 14, 2023, 10:17:50 PM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!

They've spent about the same amount we spent to buy Robin Olsen.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Villan For Life on February 14, 2023, 10:19:38 PM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!

I think you underestimate just how wealthy they are.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: andyh on February 14, 2023, 10:22:19 PM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!

I think you underestimate just how wealthy they are.
I promise you, I don’t

And I don’t just mean financially
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Villan For Life on February 14, 2023, 10:28:51 PM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!

I think you underestimate just how wealthy they are.
I promise you, I don’t

And I don’t just mean financially

If they get good people in behind the scenes then they should be ok. I don’t imagine that they’re that involved on a day to day basis anyway particularly when you consider their wider business interests.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: SaddVillan on February 14, 2023, 10:51:35 PM
Easah Suliman went there a few years back. He's currently loaned out to U.D. Vilafranquense in Portuguese Div 2.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: SaddVillan on February 14, 2023, 10:53:42 PM
Needs translating
https://vitoriasc.pt/en/2023/02/14/parceria-da-v-sports-com-o-vitoria-sport-clube/

Partnership between V Sports and Vitoria Sport Clube

The deal will yield an immediate cash inflow of 5.5 million euros.The club will remain the majority shareholder of the sports company

Vitória Sport Clube has the possibility of securing an economic partner of enormous importance.The V Sports fund, owned by Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens, and owner of Aston Villa FC, has already reached an agreement with António Miguel Cardoso for the purchase of 46% of SAD shares for 5.5 million euros .

This operation is pending the approval of the members in the General Assembly (to be scheduled soon), in accordance with the electoral commitment assumed by the President of the Club, without prejudice to the fact that, until the date of the Magna Meeting, clarification sessions will be held on the subject.

The associative validation of this operation maintains Vitória SC as the majority shareholder of the sports company (only 3.16% of the share capital is dispersed among small shareholders), and the Board of Directors will now be composed of three administrators from Vitória Sport Clube, Futebol SAD and two affections to the background V Sports.

As a result of the established pre-agreement, the future partner of SAD will support the investment of two million euros in infrastructure, to be applied in two years, also making possible a credit line of up to 20 million euros, with interest rate under preferential conditions .

The Board,
Vitória Sport Clube
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on February 14, 2023, 11:12:54 PM
Just got back from a few days in Portugal, watched a bit of footy there (Boavista vs Estoril) and was enjoyable if not PL level.  Pleased we have a foot in the door there, not like they haven't produced sopme great players is it. Maybe tghis means the next Eusebio rocks up at Villa.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2023, 11:51:14 PM
This is just a stepping stone. We buy this lot now. When we win the CL in a few we will buy Benfica. A few CL’s later and we buy Barcelona. Job done.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 01:31:49 AM
A new team for Mark Kelly, he can stop glory-hunting in Portugal and get back to following another crap team like the Villa.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 15, 2023, 02:11:51 AM
A new team for Mark Kelly, he can stop glory-hunting in Portugal and get back to following another crap team like the Villa.

Crap? Oh to be fifth again. The best we can hope for nowadays is being alphabetically second at the start of each season.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Scott Nielsen on February 15, 2023, 03:09:13 AM
Good news for us and, I assume, financially for Vitória.

I feel bad for their supporters though. A historic, proper club now diminished. I resent the on-going colonization of football.

* I feel like it should be "An historic..." but that can't be right, can it?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Bad English on February 15, 2023, 05:53:44 AM
They could send Lange and Purslow over there and get some good people in here.*

*Bear in mind I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: cdward on February 15, 2023, 06:38:55 AM
So does V Sports only go for clubs with V in the name, Vegas, Vitoria? Looking forward to signing a deal with Valencia and Villarreal. Any others?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: algy on February 15, 2023, 06:49:57 AM
So does V Sports only go for clubs with V in the name, Vegas, Vitoria? Looking forward to signing a deal with Valencia and Villarreal. Any others?
Surely they have to buy VVV Venlo
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: algy on February 15, 2023, 07:02:26 AM
Good news for us and, I assume, financially for Vitória.

I feel bad for their supporters though. A historic, proper club now diminished. I resent the on-going colonization of football.

* I feel like it should be "An historic..." but that can't be right, can it?
I agree. Just say "no" to McFootball clubs.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dave P on February 15, 2023, 07:08:20 AM
I can’t believe we’ve brought a club in Portugal when there’s a club 2 miles away that need new ownership. They even have a villa fan as manager.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: aev on February 15, 2023, 07:38:10 AM
There used to be a V Sports on the Foleshill Road, Coventry.

I used to get my cricket bats from there.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 15, 2023, 08:54:12 AM
My new favourite Portuguese club.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2023, 08:57:22 AM
Good news for us and, I assume, financially for Vitória.

I feel bad for their supporters though. A historic, proper club now diminished. I resent the on-going colonization of football.

* I feel like it should be "An historic..." but that can't be right, can it?
I agree. Just say "no" to McFootball clubs.

Me too, but that's modern football.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 15, 2023, 11:38:15 AM


Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 15, 2023, 11:48:08 AM
Good news for us and, I assume, financially for Vitória.

I feel bad for their supporters though. A historic, proper club now diminished. I resent the on-going colonization of football.

* I feel like it should be "An historic..." but that can't be right, can it?

I can't really see how they're diminished to be honest. They've accepted a minority investment for what I assume is an amount of cash that is enough to make a difference to them. There's no suggestion they will be a feeder team of any sort. I reckon it'll be years before you see any sort of benefit from players moving between them and Villa.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 15, 2023, 12:28:17 PM



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Lets hope  we get  them a better  goalkeeper
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: chrisw1 on February 15, 2023, 12:32:45 PM
It's a neglibable amount of money.  I can't really see it having any impact on us any time soon. 
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Billy Walker on February 15, 2023, 12:41:55 PM
I did a bit of Googling about the valuations of Portuguese clubs as it seemed to me 5 million euros for just under half the shares was a bit cheap. On Statista.com it says Vitória SC is currently the sixth most valuable club in Portugal (estimated valuation 46 million dollars) which suggests V Sports have picked up a bargain. I can only imagine Vitória are heavily in debt or have significant cash-flow problems?  If not mentioned here already, it's also interesting to note that PSG's Qataris have recently bought a minority share in Braga (currently Portugal's fourth most valuable club).   

 
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 01:32:55 PM
And how much are Braga valued at?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: nigel on February 15, 2023, 01:39:49 PM
My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 15, 2023, 01:59:04 PM
My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too

Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: DeKuip on February 15, 2023, 02:13:52 PM
I was there 4 years ago for the Nations League finals. The town square is only just round the corner so far better for a pre match drink than Villa Park, good train service to Porto, Braga not far away in the other direction. Get the pre-season fixture sorted now please.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: darren woolley on February 15, 2023, 03:01:41 PM
It will be a good opportunity for us to look at any good players coming through their youth system.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 15, 2023, 03:03:12 PM
Strange. I'm really struggling to see why they'd want to invest even a small amount into a club like Guimarães other than it's such a tiny amount it would be rude not to. In the press here V Sports have been described as 'economic partners' with the promise of '2 million for infrastructure, a 20 million credit line with below market interest rates'. More concerning is what would happen if we both qualify for the same European competition?

Guimarães is probably my favourite place here, it's a beautiful, historical town full of charm, real chocolate box especially at Christmas when they elegantly decorate the centre. It was the first capital of Portugal and no surprise the stadium is named after Portugal's first king. Will I start supporting them? Will I bollox. I suffer enough with my two local teams here and back home.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 15, 2023, 03:06:50 PM
More concerning is what would happen if we both qualify for the same European competition?


Nothing. It only becomes a problem if you have a controlling stake, ie 50% or more, which we don't in the Portuguese club.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: chrisw1 on February 15, 2023, 03:18:14 PM
I'm not even sure they're going to start sending us their best young players are they?  Surely that would be counter productive to what they want to achieve.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Pete3206 on February 15, 2023, 03:28:22 PM
Be interesting when we play them in Europe
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 15, 2023, 03:30:51 PM
Cheers, Risso. It appears V Sports are more than economic partners..

"An important step towards the global expansion of V Sports. V Sports aims to create synergies between the clubs in its group that will encourage the sharing of worldwide scouting networks, academy training methodologies, best practices and youth academy development strategies in across Europe and Africa."

I'd imagine now South America is also an important scouting ground for us so makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: nigel on February 15, 2023, 04:30:06 PM
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My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too

Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html

Ouch, that is awful
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: chrisw1 on February 15, 2023, 04:32:54 PM
My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too

Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html
Thats a 2007 kit.  This is their 2022 kits and very nice they are too:
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/08/vitoria-sc-22-23-home-away-third-kits.html


(https://i.ibb.co/8bLTPjh/download.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8bLTPjh)




Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: nigel on February 15, 2023, 04:37:58 PM
My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too

Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html
Thats a 2007 kit.  This is there 2022 kits and very nice they are too:
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/08/vitoria-sc-22-23-home-away-third-kits.html

Those were the ones I was on about. All three very nice.
In fairness to BV he was just showing an away top of theirs which wasn’t so good.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 15, 2023, 05:13:58 PM
Things like this also make believe more than before that Lange’s days are numbered. I think Emery will have a large part to play in who we buy in the future and the scouting team will need to be fully aligned. I think in the summer we will see a shake up internally that mirrors some of the strategic moves we are making as a club and the ownership group.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 15, 2023, 05:17:17 PM
I'd hope that we've learned from the Gerrard and MON years that it's madness to let the manager - whoever he is - to set the transfer strategy.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: OCD on February 15, 2023, 05:22:43 PM
The away kit would have been nice if they had kept it simple.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 06:00:55 PM
I've always wanted synergy at the Villa.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Billy Walker on February 15, 2023, 06:06:42 PM
And how much are Braga valued at?

According to Bloomberg, the Qatari's bought a 22% stake implying an overall valuation of 90 million euro.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 06:17:21 PM
Wow. When you read how much the likes of Spurs are being touted as up for sale for, it's hard not to think that our owners got a bargain.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Beard82 on February 15, 2023, 06:44:45 PM
The biggest issue is V Sport is a rubbish name.  It sounds like a rubbish energy drink, or an Alchopop that would give you the shits for those of us old enough to remember them

The name of the business should be "The Legendary Aston Villa, and others"
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 15, 2023, 07:04:56 PM
Things like this also make believe more than before that Lange’s days are numbered. I think Emery will have a large part to play in who we buy in the future and the scouting team will need to be fully aligned. I think in the summer we will see a shake up internally that mirrors some of the strategic moves we are making as a club and the ownership group.

Not sure this has much to do with Lange unless he identified Guimarães a few years back as a potential target. Apparently we've been after them for some time now. It was only when their current president got elected last March did things start to move. Agree about the chairs moving in the summer, Emery certainly seems to want his own man on board, where that'll leave Lange I've no idea.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: PeterWithe on February 15, 2023, 07:08:54 PM
Were this lot Jose Mourinho's boyhood team?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 15, 2023, 07:38:28 PM
Were this lot Jose Mourinho's boyhood team?

Vitória de Setúbal.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 15, 2023, 07:48:16 PM
In theory you could ‘promote’ Lange to Head of DoFs at V Sports.  The rabble of clubs would be wise to consolidate their processes and that would not be a small task.
In the meantime bring in an individual to head up the villa side of the scouting etc.   
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 15, 2023, 07:48:44 PM
Which are your Portuguese teams Rudy?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 15, 2023, 07:49:08 PM
Things like this also make believe more than before that Lange’s days are numbered. I think Emery will have a large part to play in who we buy in the future and the scouting team will need to be fully aligned. I think in the summer we will see a shake up internally that mirrors some of the strategic moves we are making as a club and the ownership group.

Not sure this has much to do with Lange unless he identified Guimarães a few years back as a potential target. Apparently we've been after them for some time now. It was only when their current president got elected last March did things start to move. Agree about the chairs moving in the summer, Emery certainly seems to want his own man on board, where that'll leave Lange I've no idea.

Yeh I didn’t mean to directly correlate Lange to this. But the broadening of our affiliated clubs, the wider scope of responsibility afforded to Emery along with the much more personal involvement of NS in matters leads me to think the existing crew might not be a part of the future. I don’t know if that extends yet to Purslow, but given what happened post Fulham can’t have been good for him. But Lange could be an easier fall guy in all of this.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 15, 2023, 07:58:45 PM
When I heard we were buying a Portuguese club I did wonder what involvement “Super Agent” Mendez might have in both clubs.  NE is rumoured to be a fan.  100% speculation on my part. I can’t work out if it would be a good/bad thing anyway.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 15, 2023, 08:05:04 PM
Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html
Thats a 2007 kit.  This is there 2022 kits and very nice they are too:
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/08/vitoria-sc-22-23-home-away-third-kits.html

Those were the ones I was on about. All three very nice.
In fairness to BV he was just showing an away top of theirs which wasn’t so good.

Yeah, wasn't trying to argue that their kits weren't nice, just highlighted one I spotted where they made a complete hames of it.

If nice kits are V Sports' thing then hopefully Venezia FC is next on the acquisition list.

Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: algy on February 15, 2023, 08:06:32 PM
My new favourite Portuguese club.

Yes, nice kits, too

Their home kit seems to be mostly plain white with a Santos vibe. However this away effort is a lesson in how to make a dog's dinner of a Vasco shirt. https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/pt/teams/v/vitoria-guimaraes/old-vitoria-guimaraes-football-shirt-s77241.html
Thats a 2007 kit.  This is there 2022 kits and very nice they are too:
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2022/08/vitoria-sc-22-23-home-away-third-kits.html

Those were the ones I was on about. All three very nice.
In fairness to BV he was just showing an away top of theirs which wasn’t so good.
I like to imagine that there's a Heroes and Vitorias forum and they're talking about our old kits, like how nice the 1992/3 home was but we made a bit of a cão's pastéis de nata of a Barcelona shirt in 2000.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: FatSam on February 15, 2023, 09:42:30 PM
The biggest issue is V Sport is a rubbish name.  It sounds like a rubbish energy drink, or an Alchopop that would give you the shits for those of us old enough to remember them
I’m certainly old enough to remember the shits.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2023, 10:09:30 PM
Do Brits know the expression "a complete hames of..." ?

Hope so. They were primed with "sucking diesel" on In The Line Of Duty.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 15, 2023, 10:47:41 PM
Do Brits know the expression "a complete hames of..." ?

Hope so. They were primed with "sucking diesel" on In The Line Of Duty.

I doubt it but hopefully some of them do now. :)
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: johnc on February 16, 2023, 08:46:05 AM
Good news for us and, I assume, financially for Vitória.

I feel bad for their supporters though. A historic, proper club now diminished. I resent the on-going colonization of football.

* I feel like it should be "An historic..." but that can't be right, can it?
You will put in "an" to split up the two vowel sounds.  Depending on your accent you might skip the "h" in historic and drop in an
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 16, 2023, 10:49:06 AM
I hope our owners aren’t spreading themselves too thin…….with this, and the US ‘franchise’.
Let’s hope they remember, we were here first !!

I think you underestimate just how wealthy they are.
I promise you, I don’t

And I don’t just mean financially

If they get good people in behind the scenes then they should be ok. I don’t imagine that they’re that involved on a day to day basis anyway particularly when you consider their wider business interests.
That's what I'm concerned about.
V Sports group isn't anything really to do with Aston Villa or is it? Are we now in V group??
NSWE group are Aston Villa owners who also happen to now own Vitória club looks like they set up a company but it's not under the same branch as Aston Villa.

I suppose they wanted to be open about their investment in other clubs. I hope they haven't lost interest and are instead heading to Portugal to try to get Champions League football that way.

They are also aware of the large amount of talent available and the potential for profit, as evidenced particularly by Benfica's transfer policy in the Portuguese league, as well as this there is hugely potential for South Americans, particularly Brazilian players, to be purchased cheaply and sold for large sums.

Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 16, 2023, 10:58:07 AM
V Sports SCS, (formerly called NSWE SCS) is the Luxembourg company that owns NSWE UK Limited in the UK. They've bought a minority shareholding in a Portuguese club for relative buttons.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: PGW on February 16, 2023, 11:39:14 AM
V Sports SCS, (formerly called NSWE SCS) is the Luxembourg company that owns NSWE UK Limited in the UK. They've bought a minority shareholding in a Portuguese club for relative buttons.
5.5 m Euros i seem to recall reading...as u say buttons.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 16, 2023, 11:41:00 AM
V Sports SCS, (formerly called NSWE SCS) is the Luxembourg company that owns NSWE UK Limited in the UK. They've bought a minority shareholding in a Portuguese club for relative buttons.

I see. Ok well it's all a bit confusing just hope they stay committed to Villa project.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: chrisw1 on February 16, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
If nice kits are V Sports' thing then hopefully Venezia FC is next on the acquisition list.

Now that shirt is the bollocks...

(https://i.ibb.co/XsLJqN9/225731608-533570924646215-7172483442261569880-n-800x1000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsLJqN9)
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 16, 2023, 01:05:20 PM
I suppose they wanted to be open about their investment in other clubs. I hope they haven't lost interest and are instead heading to Portugal to try to get Champions League football that way.

The day Guimarães play in the Champions League I'll get Risso to offer you a golden farm to go with your golden pigs.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 16, 2023, 01:52:24 PM
I suppose they wanted to be open about their investment in other clubs. I hope they haven't lost interest and are instead heading to Portugal to try to get Champions League football that way.

The day Guimarães play in the Champions League I'll get Risso to offer you a golden farm to go with your golden pigs.
God forbids Moses and his followers to eat swine “because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud.”
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 16, 2023, 03:29:22 PM
I suppose they wanted to be open about their investment in other clubs. I hope they haven't lost interest and are instead heading to Portugal to try to get Champions League football that way.

The day Guimarães play in the Champions League I'll get Risso to offer you a golden farm to go with your golden pigs.
God forbids Moses and his followers to eat swine “because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud.”

Seems like a completely logical thing to insist on. We can't be eating any of those non-cud chewing bastards.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 16, 2023, 03:55:53 PM
I suppose they wanted to be open about their investment in other clubs. I hope they haven't lost interest and are instead heading to Portugal to try to get Champions League football that way.

The day Guimarães play in the Champions League I'll get Risso to offer you a golden farm to go with your golden pigs.
God forbids Moses and his followers to eat swine “because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud.”

Bob Marley said something similar.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2023, 04:17:48 PM
So did Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 16, 2023, 04:21:30 PM
I wouldn't know. ;)
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: algy on February 16, 2023, 07:36:39 PM
To be fair I'm not sure I'd be trying to eat golden pigs either. I imagine they'd taste a bit metallic.

Maybe it's just like tinned bacon though where the gold is just a coating and it's mechanically recovered pork inside
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: OCD on February 16, 2023, 11:35:46 PM
There’s a story in one of the papers that as part of the deal, we’ll bring Ibrahima Bamba across. He’s a 20 (soon to be 21) year old Italian who usually plays as a defensive midfielder who can also play as a centre back.

This got me thinking of the possible strategic importance of this deal. Before the UK left the EU, we acted quickly to sign Bogarde and Swinkels because we knew it would be difficult to get international clearance for a lot of young European players after we exited the EU. Signing up a European club allows us to recruit and park a lot of promising talent, build up their experience and bring them across once they likely would get clearance. Could be quite a significant move.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Drummond on February 16, 2023, 11:47:02 PM
There’s a story in one of the papers that as part of the deal, we’ll bring Ibrahima Bamba across. He’s a 20 (soon to be 21) year old Italian who usually plays as a defensive midfielder who can also play as a centre back.

This got me thinking of the possible strategic importance of this deal. Before the UK left the EU, we acted quickly to sign Bogarde and Swinkels because we knew it would be difficult to get international clearance for a lot of young European players after we exited the EU. Signing up a European club allows us to recruit and park a lot of promising talent, build up their experience and bring them across once they likely would get clearance. Could be quite a significant move.

Ah, the other part of our new centre back partnership with Kamara.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 17, 2023, 12:06:07 AM
There’s a story in one of the papers that as part of the deal, we’ll bring Ibrahima Bamba across. He’s a 20 (soon to be 21) year old Italian who usually plays as a defensive midfielder who can also play as a centre back.

Ah, the other part of our new centre back partnership with Kamara.

Bouba 'n' Bamba has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: eamonn on February 17, 2023, 01:16:40 AM
Just keep Bobo Balde away from our team.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: GarTomas on February 17, 2023, 07:35:01 AM
There’s a story in one of the papers that as part of the deal, we’ll bring Ibrahima Bamba across. He’s a 20 (soon to be 21) year old Italian who usually plays as a defensive midfielder who can also play as a centre back.

This got me thinking of the possible strategic importance of this deal. Before the UK left the EU, we acted quickly to sign Bogarde and Swinkels because we knew it would be difficult to get international clearance for a lot of young European players after we exited the EU. Signing up a European club allows us to recruit and park a lot of promising talent, build up their experience and bring them across once they likely would get clearance. Could be quite a significant move.

Is the correct answer.
The Price of Football podcast covered this story this week, effectively it can be used as a vehicle to park talented EU teenagers who now can’t be signed and moved into the UK (thanks Brexit) so this alleviates that. Plus the added benefit of them playing regularly in a higher standard.

The shared methodology is effectively training methods, diets etc so if Villa do them bring them in once that have enough points (some quota around games played etc) the new players then only have to adapt culturally but their work environment doesn’t change that much.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: chrisw1 on February 17, 2023, 08:56:19 AM
I quite like the idea of keeping an eye on Vitoria.  This could be fun.

UTV.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: LeeB on February 17, 2023, 09:46:39 AM
Just keep Bobo Balde away from our team.

I miss the Glaswegian pronunciation of that name, it was magnificent.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: OCD on February 17, 2023, 10:55:02 AM
With Central Defenders expected to be able to play out from the back and Defensive Midfielders often dropping back into defence, the position is more interchangeable now than it has previously been.

Choosing to play Kamara as a centre back would be batshit. Apparently Bristol Rovers have pushed Bogarde into midfield though so there is a smaller divide now.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: LeeB on February 17, 2023, 10:59:32 AM
With Central Defenders expected to be able to play out from the back and Defensive Midfielders often dropping back into defence, the position is more interchangeable now than it has previously been.

Choosing to play Kamara as a centre back would be batshit. Apparently Bristol Rovers have pushed Bogarde into midfield though so there is a smaller divide now.

Old knobhead Pep likes to do that sort of thing doesn't he? He had Bernardo fucking Silva playing left back the other night, and had Mascherano playing centre half way back at Barcelona
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: johnc on February 17, 2023, 01:31:23 PM
To be fair I'm not sure I'd be trying to eat golden pigs either. I imagine they'd taste a bit metallic.

Maybe it's just like tinned bacon though where the gold is just a coating and it's mechanically recovered pork inside
I am fairly sure they would only be gold plated. It would be silly otherwise
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Billy Walker on February 17, 2023, 02:31:05 PM
Something I've been thinking about a fair bit since Wes and Nassef took over Villa is what kind of financial entity "owns" the Club?  I know the pair of them set up NSWE SCS (now V Sports SCS) but what does that actually mean?  What is "V Sports"? Is it a trust?  Is it some kind of private investment vehicle open to other unnamed investors?  Is it purely Wes and Nassef's money being invested into Villa or are there other private parties putting money into the V Sports pot?  I ask this now because it's clear the Club is beginning to embark on the multi-club ownership model and that will require significant funds in the long-term - according to reports, Las Vegas Villains, alone, would take up to a billion dollars to set up, if it gets the go ahead.

Beyond this, I wonder what the strategy is? We are now beginning to see Middle Eastern groups and states looking to get involved with far more clubs.  We already have a hugely influential Middle Eastern businessman at the heart of Villa (Nassef Sawiris is the world's richest Arab according to Forbes), would V Sports eventually look to sell percentages of Aston Villa FC off to interested parties or, indeed, sell off portions of "V Sports" itself?  With all these takeovers going on, and given the profiles and interests of Wes Edens and Nassef Sawiris, I think we are living in interesting times for Villa.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2023, 02:36:13 PM
It's a Luxembourg company. Finding out any more information than that is pretty well impossible.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 17, 2023, 02:41:12 PM
Can’t recall where I read it but apparently V Sports also/already includes a club in Egypt.  So there’s three clubs plus vegas in the group.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: algy on February 17, 2023, 02:44:59 PM
Can’t recall where I read it but apparently V Sports also/already includes a club in Egypt.  So there’s three clubs plus vegas in the group.
ZED FC - last paragraph in a (short) wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZED_FC#2009%E2%80%932014:_Founding_and_time_in_lower_leagues
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Billy Walker on February 17, 2023, 02:51:13 PM
It's a Luxembourg company. Finding out any more information than that is pretty well impossible.

Yep, it's pretty tough!
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
Which is why it's there.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Simon Page on February 17, 2023, 03:29:21 PM
It's all perfectly legal, not for any gain and there is nothing wrong with it. Bloody lefty do-gooders.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2023, 03:37:27 PM
It's all perfectly legal, not for any gain and there is nothing wrong with it. Bloody lefty do-gooders.

What on earth are you talking about?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Simon Page on February 17, 2023, 03:42:19 PM
You lot, highlighting the opaqueness over the obvious benefits to humanity.

Would a winky yellow fella help?
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2023, 04:02:04 PM
I can't speak for anybody else, but all I've done is answer the question as to what V Sports actually is. I've made no comment on whether its use or not is a good thing.
Title: Re: V Sports
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 17, 2023, 06:26:42 PM
I can't speak for anybody else, but all I've done is answer the question as to what V Sports actually is. I've made no comment on whether its use or not is a good thing.

Seemed clear to me.
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