Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2023, 05:03:59 PM
-
Never in doubt. Told you we should’ve sold Ings.
-
W5 D1 L1
Not bad.
-
Keep on grinding them out.
-
We are getting results and playing actual football. The house isn’t on fire lads.
-
Never in doubt. Told you we should’ve sold Ings.
Danny who?
-
Imagine how good we'll be when we have better players! He'll need a couple of windows but 2024-2027 are gonna be our years!
-
We are still short on quality up front and that needs sorting out, but the turn around since Emery came in is nothing short of amazing. He is the real deal.
-
Well that’s satisfying.
-
5 points off 5th.
-
Martinez won that for us today. Let's hope we can keep him.
-
Knocked over another team coming into form as well.
Strange times, I'm beginning to wonder if this manager might know a thing or two.
-
Another weekend unspoiled. I could get used to this.
-
Europe is on lads.
5 points off 5th.
6th or 7th may also be enough.
Its gonna happen 8)
-
FTF's.
A shame for Soton. Real shame.
The smaller sides down the foot of the table don't get the luck.
Best not to piss off Lady Luck with wanky goal celebrations though, just in case.
-
Three points off a European spot.
Emery knows his stuff.
-
We clearly need quality additions. But getting results while in this position and not playing our best is a great trait to have. Winning feels great however we get them. Not enough of those in our recent history.
-
Bit cold in front of goal, but a thoroughly deserved 3pts. Now onto Leicester!
UTV
-
Job done. Martinez is a special player.
-
Only saw second half. Dirty win in a poor quality game. Quality free kick from Luiz for the goal. Our midfield two are as good as anything in division. CBs solid and Martinez sharp as always. Abysmal up front. Ramsey really disappointed me.
-
Average performance, great result, and now we can have a proper go at the European places IF the board back Unai as he deserves. That bench today was a Flinstone style DISGRACE!!!!1111
-
The Villa away under Emery: turn up, win, go home.
Long may it continue.
-
We are still short on quality up front and that needs sorting out, but the turn around since Emery came in is nothing short of amazing. He is the real deal.
This in spades. If we can bring in a couple over the next 10 days, we could be a very dangerous opposition. Nice and solid looking, the foundations are there. Replace Bailey, bring in a winger, partner for Bouba, get Carlos fit. Watch us go!!
-
Three points off a European spot.
Emery knows his stuff.
Oh it is on, girlfriend
-
Job done. Martinez is a special player.
He is simply magnificent. The best keeper in the world today in my opinion.
-
Get in! 3 points. Tough shit Saints!
-
https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/59832-aston-villa-build-up/page/13/
Enjoy 8)
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
-
Deserved the win, controlled the vast majority of the game.
-
For the first time this season we can now actually look up the league with confidence. Hallelujah!
-
If you look at this season some of the better teams having average seasons it’s a great chance to finish in Europe. We have to get another forward this window.
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
Shows how utterly shit Gerrard was.
-
That'll do, pig.
Was convinced we'd lose. Glad Ollie stepped up today & thank goodness (again!) for Emi M.
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
The southampton player trod on Ramseys heel as the cross came over, it was a clear foul no matter how many people call it soft.
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
🎻 tiny tiny tiny
-
Scrappy game against a side that were desperate for a result, Bailey gave us nothing today Watkins was our only threat, we need a key forward. Worried about Moreno, hope he is still adjusting to the pace. We are so close to having a very good side I hope we can get a couple more in before the end of January.
-
I thought their goal should have stood. Had it been up the other end I'd be fuming. BUT...they were dreadful.
It was ground out result. We probably made it a little harder than it needed to be with poor decision making up top. Bailey and Emi2 were really frustrating today. Kamara was classy again. Douglas played quite well. JJ looks rusty and I'm not entirely convinced about him playing where he was.
Emi 1 was excellent. I thought Mings and Konsa did okay (albeit I'd hope they raise it up against better players) Moreno a little bit hit and miss today and could have been punished by better opposition. Young was great until about 75 minutes. If the last couple of games have showed Emery one thing about Young is, great as he is, he's got to be coming off at 70-80 minutes. He looked knackered.
Watkins needs help too. He ran himself into the ground, so I'm hoping we'll see Duran fairly soon.
What on Earth has happened to Phil? He looks completely shot of confidence. I'm not sure anything he tried came off. I know he's not the best physically either but he probably lost every single duel and 50/50 he went in for. I really hope he gets a goal soon or pulls something out of the bag to give him a boost. I'd hate to have to write him off.
Not great, but we worked hard and a wins a wins a win.
-
We are getting results and playing actual football. The house isn’t on fire lads.
These are just fantastic days. Top owners, elite manager, getting results, being smarter off the pitch and yet sometimes we still find negatives to obsess over. Enjoy the weekend!
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
It's a timely reminder of just how shite we were under the previous manager though. The turnaround has been miraculous, we didn't look like we'd win an away game all season and now we have three wins on the spin. I wonder what Gerrard's thinking. There aren't many professions where you can sit and what your successor make a mockery of the job you were doing.
Emery achieving these results with the same players he inherited is so impressive. Once he starts to fit his own pieces into the jigsaw, we could really fly. Surely this isn't a false dawn for once.
I hope we bolster our attacking options this month because top 8 is a realistic target and top 6 is hardly out of the question now. We do have a tough run in though but for once we're making the most of a favourable run of games.
-
Desperate for attacking options, both buendia and Bailey were so poor. Ollie ran himself ragged and the difference with him and ings up top is night and day.
We look a proper team, thought mings was superb
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
Shows how utterly shit Gerrard was.
Yep
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
🎻 tiny tiny tiny
The worst team they’ve played at home this season still managed to dominate possession, have way more shots and win 1-0. Oh dear, how shit must they be then? Doesn’t look good.
-
Bejesus that was ugly as sin. Take three points and scarpa. Can get used to this winning caper though.
-
We did get lucky on their goal, but am I the only one who still can't believe we didn't get a penalty first half for a foul on Ramsey? Everyone eating all kinds of shit I guess.
Anyway, nasty wins are still wins, and it's not like we were Stoking or Burnleying around, just a bit of an edge which any team needs to do well. Largely defended well, Ash clearly has some sort of witch he sees, thought Doug and Ollie did well and Martinez and Kamara, fuck me, they really could play for virtually any team on earth.
-
When was the last time we managed 3 away wins on the bounce in the top division?
Great work.
-
Further proof that it wasn't because of the players we were so shit under Gerrard. We may need some strengthening but we have seen that this side is far better than the utter fucking garbage being served up earlier in the season was all down to the manager and coaches.
-
A win is a win, but boy we don't like to do it easy.
Bailey was anonymous, Moreno struggled and I lost count of the number of times Buendia gave the ball away.
Kamara and Martinez our best players, with Ashley not far behind.
-
Jammy win, but you need those to climb up the table. I thought Ramsey was abysmal closely followed by Bailey. Watkins looked sharp considering his recent injury and he came alive in the second half. Easily MOTM for me.
Coutinho is so far gone now that we probably need to cut our loses. Something isn't right with him and he hasn't contributed anything notable in months.
-
Desperate for attacking options, both buendia and Bailey were so poor. Ollie ran himself ragged and the difference with him and ings up top is night and day.
We look a proper team, thought mings was superb
Goal aside, I thought Watkins was dreadful. Buendia not too bad, Bailey absymal again. Coutinho doesn't offer anything so we really need to strengthen our options in the attacking areas.
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
The southampton player trod on Ramseys heel as the cross came over, it was a clear foul no matter how many people call it soft.
Cheers Paul, not seen it yet but Danny Murphy thought it was a clear foul, Chapman and the commentator at the ground indicated it was a soft decision. Oh well!!
-
I think we're relatively safe from relegation now.
-
Emi - best keeper in our history
-
Didn't we have two stonewall penalties before they "scored"
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
Shows how utterly shit Gerrard was.
If you think we even managed to get 3 points out of the 2 games with Danks as caretaker.
-
Not sure how that was scrappy or dour?
We dominated the whole game…..some of our play in possession is sublime.
It may not always result in a shot or attempt, but some of the passing to retain the ball, move the opposition around and get ourselves out of tricky situations was just glorious.
We are on our way.
-
Great win - much the better team, controlled the game.
Passing the best I have seen from us in ages - but we really need some more attacking options before the window "slams" shut if we are to continue this good form, and push for Europe.
-
16 points out of 7 games and still not in top half is a right pisser
Shows how utterly shit Gerrard was.
100%. Had the easier fixtures too.
Also a reflection on Fulham, Brighton and Brentford's form. You can't catch them if they're winning too. So what's happened is the table has condensed and Liverpool, Chelsea and even Spurs have all been reeled in. Really tight up there now. Asking a lot, but carry this form on for a month and something will give and the table would look very promising.
If that doesn't happen it's okay and we look forward to a season untainted by Gerrard.
-
https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/59832-aston-villa-build-up/page/13/
Enjoy 8)
Tbh the vast majority of the comments seem to be a fair view. They were shit and we were a bit better.
-
For twenty plus years I have watched many of the so called 'top 6' teams win games like that.
That wasn't feckin jammy. it was a masterclass.
We controlled the game and could step up a gear whenever we needed to.
We are a work in progress, but by God, we are progressing.
Onwards and upwards. :)
-
Didn't we have two stonewall penalties before they "scored"
Defiantly the second one. First one was 50/50 but I think the keeper got to the ball first. Just!
-
We are getting results and playing actual football. The house isn’t on fire lads.
These are just fantastic days. Top owners, elite manager, getting results, being smarter off the pitch and yet sometimes we still find negatives to obsess over. Enjoy the weekend!
Indeed 🙄
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
The southampton player trod on Ramseys heel as the cross came over, it was a clear foul no matter how many people call it soft.
Cheers Paul, not seen it yet but Danny Murphy thought it was a clear foul, Chapman and the commentator at the ground indicated it was a soft decision. Oh well!!
definitely a foul
-
Looks like it was an eventful afternoon. Cursing myself for ballsing the chance to get a ticket for it.
What was the drone all about? Also, why did we only have 8 on the bench? Been at work so not been able to follow game much
-
Great win. If I've got one grump, we did try and pass it into the net again but we did looked really tidy on the ball for the majority of the time.
-
We are getting results and playing actual football. The house isn’t on fire lads.
These are just fantastic days. Top owners, elite manager, getting results, being smarter off the pitch and yet sometimes we still find negatives to obsess over. Enjoy the weekend!
Indeed 🙄
A game between a team battling for their survival and one in transition wasn't a classic. Stone me...
-
Winning a game where we should win is always satisfying. Southampton are where they are for a reason and I am pleased we put an end to “Look at Nathan Jones at Saints” band wagon. It’s a very good weekend😆
-
Looks like it was an eventful afternoon. Cursing myself for ballsing the chance to get a ticket for it.
What was the drone all about? Also, why did we only have 8 on the bench? Been at work so not been able to follow game much
Martinz got his mate to send it up to waste time and confuse the Southampton players and it worked
-
The turnaround in results is incredible, just imagine how good we'll be when we get better quality players in.
Martinez is playing in the sort of form & with a level of confidence that makes him practically unbeatable.
But we'll need attacking reinforcements over the next 2 weeks if we want a top 8 finish.
-
If only Emery can add a good striker and winger, I really think we might be at the stage that passports may be required!!
-
We are getting results and playing actual football. The house isn’t on fire lads.
These are just fantastic days. Top owners, elite manager, getting results, being smarter off the pitch and yet sometimes we still find negatives to obsess over. Enjoy the weekend!
However I am still fuming about the two cup defeats.
-
We are grinding out results with flashes of what we can become with players who do not fit properly into Emery's system. Imagine what we could be with players that do fit his system? I don't want to get carried away because Villa have broken my heart before, but by jove, just imagine!
-
https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/59832-aston-villa-build-up/page/13/
Enjoy 8)
Tbh the vast majority of the comments seem to be a fair view. They were shit and we were a bit better.
Some salty buggers on there. They've won 1 game at home all season, they're bottom but not adrift yet.
-
Looks like it was an eventful afternoon. Cursing myself for ballsing the chance to get a ticket for it.
What was the drone all about? Also, why did we only have 8 on the bench? Been at work so not been able to follow game much
Be a good lad and get back to work. Someone has to pay the country’s debt whilst rest of us are ball watching.😘
-
Also - one final point - I think that JWP is a good player - and would have liked us to get him when we were interested a few years ago. BUT, that stupid golf swing thing he does when he scored is just shit
-
WM decided to not to air second half on fm radio. I got blues instead. Great all round. We win they invade pitch and protest
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
The southampton player trod on Ramseys heel as the cross came over, it was a clear foul no matter how many people call it soft.
Yep. The co-commentator on my telly kept going on about a nudge in the back, he spotted the other foul on about the sixth replay. Then I hear Dawson on Sky saying it was a soft nudge in the back, the clown.
-
1st "double" of the season. Always nice, especially against a team we usually struggle to beat.
-
Lovely stuff.
-
When was the last time we managed 3 away wins on the bounce in the top division?
Great work.
First three games of the lockdown season.
-
If a goal is chalked off, does a players yellow for "complaining" to the ref about said goal not get chalked off?
-
good professional away win
Nothing spectacular going forward, Martinez was immense, Saves and inspiration.
If I was a sad saints fan, I would have thought the Ramsey foul for the disallowed goal was a bit harsh, but tough shit
3 deserved points
-
1st "double" of the season. Always nice, especially against a team we usually struggle to beat.
At only the second time of asking and we got 4 from 6 from the first chance v leeds.
-
It;s lovely to be looking up the table instead of looking down it. Well done Villa.
-
Cracking result! Pleased for Watkins scoring. Emi Martinez a colossus in goal! 3 away wins from 3 under Emery. UTV!
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
Surely the worst team they have seen at home this season is Southampton... ???
One of the responses from that Saints site. They seem completely oblivious to the fact that there were a couple of Villa pens that could have been. Certainly one of them. They whine about Watkins being offside, despite not being. And they all happily ignore the fact that their player not only pushed Ramsey, he also kicked the back of his ankle... Talk about being one eyed, lol...
I have had the displeasure of chatting at length to a couple of Saints fans while we went through our decade of disaster & the smug arrogant wankerness from them during that time makes me quite pleased that they are struggling. I wouldn't be unhappy to see them down.
-
If a goal is chalked off, does a players yellow for "complaining" to the ref about said goal not get chalked off?
No, because it will legitimise dissent.
-
They are going down with the toffees
-
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12792154/southampton-0-1-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
One of the responses from that Saints site. They seem completely oblivious to the fact that there were a couple of Villa pens that could have been. Certainly one of them. They whine about Watkins being offside, despite not being. And they all happily ignore the fact that their player not only pushed Ramsey, he also kicked the back of his ankle... Talk about being one eyed, lol...
To be fair I reckon all forums are the same, full of one eyed twats. I read the rest of that thread and I am baffled by why they think Watkins was offside when he clearly wasn't. Every team in the country has fans that say 'the refs are always against us' and I always eye roll. I bet there are fucking Man City fans that even say it. I think some refs are weak but I don't think there are conspiracies.
-
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12792154/southampton-0-1-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights)
Don't know who the co-commentator is but he's an idiot.
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
Filthy Drone dork Scummers. Get in the Solent.
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
That's funny. A street girl rating her customers for their sexual prowess.
-
I’d have been pissed off if we’d scored a goal and it was chalked off like theirs was - so hilarious!
-
If a goal is chalked off, does a players yellow for "complaining" to the ref about said goal not get chalked off?
The commentator on my feed said it stands. I’m not sure.
-
I’d have been pissed off if we’d scored a goal and it was chalked off like theirs was - so hilarious!
The 2nd half one? A clear foul, possibly not meant but still a foul. A travesty if that was allowed with VAR in operation.
-
Happy days. Another great away win. Saints are going down..
-
19 points from 9 games since Stevie pissed off - 16 in 7 since Emery took over.
I am fucking loving it - 3 away wins on the bounce.
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
That's funny. A street girl rating her customers for their sexual prowess.
Ooh, touched a nerve mate?
-
I’d have been pissed off if we’d scored a goal and it was chalked off like theirs was - so hilarious!
The 2nd half one? A clear foul, possibly not meant but still a foul. A travesty if that was allowed with VAR in operation.
My eyesight has deteriorated over the years but Stevie Wonder would see that is a clear foul - ACL stamp. Even Danny Murphy thought so.
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
One of the responses from that Saints site. They seem completely oblivious to the fact that there were a couple of Villa pens that could have been. Certainly one of them. They whine about Watkins being offside, despite not being. And they all happily ignore the fact that their player not only pushed Ramsey, he also kicked the back of his ankle... Talk about being one eyed, lol...
To be fair I reckon all forums are the same, full of one eyed twats. I read the rest of that thread and I am baffled by why they think Watkins was offside when he clearly wasn't. Every team in the country has fans that say 'the refs are always against us' and I always eye roll. I bet there are fucking Man City fans that even say it. I think some refs are weak but I don't think there are conspiracies.
I agree with 'the ref's have got it in for us' is conspiracy nonsense.
But not many teams get the Rashford not offside decision.
-
If a goal is chalked off, does a players yellow for "complaining" to the ref about said goal not get chalked off?
The commentator on my feed said it stands. I’m not sure.
If the player was booked for the foul then yes. If they were booked for arguing (like Luiz) then no.
-
One thing that really grinds my gears is when defenders celebrate (with the fans) a tackle like it’s a goal. One of the Southampton defenders did it today and I noticed it at the World Cup too. No.
-
One thing that really grinds my gears is when defenders celebrate (with the fans) a tackle like it’s a goal. One of the Southampton defenders did it today and I noticed it at the World Cup too. No.
Sometimes they are just as important as goals….when I played and intercepted a ball it was like scoring a hat trick for me….
-
I’d have been pissed off if we’d scored a goal and it was chalked off like theirs was - so hilarious!
The 2nd half one? A clear foul, possibly not meant but still a foul. A travesty if that was allowed with VAR in operation.
VAR doing what it's supposed to do
-
One thing that really grinds my gears is when defenders celebrate (with the fans) a tackle like it’s a goal. One of the Southampton defenders did it today and I noticed it at the World Cup too. No.
Sometimes they are just as important as goals….when I played and intercepted a ball it was like scoring a hat trick for me….
Same here, especially if I could leave a bit on the opposition player as I did so.
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
That's funny. A street girl rating her customers for their sexual prowess.
Ooh, touched a nerve mate?
She dun't do major credit cards, I doubt she does receipts. It's all not quite legitimate.
-
There was a push and a slight stamp on Ramsey. Two fouls in one. Yeah, a bit soft, but I can fully understand why it was given. If we can add some pace and creativity before the window closes, we will be pushing for top 8. Results went for us today too.
-
There was a push and a slight stamp on Ramsey. Two fouls in one. Yeah, a bit soft, but I can fully understand why it was given. If we can add some pace and creativity before the window closes, we will be pushing for top 8. Results went for us today too.
We’re three points off 6th, we need add some players and aim higher than 8th.
-
Ooh, touched a nerve mate?
Yes, I am still fuming. She was dead to me after that.
-
There was a push and a slight stamp on Ramsey. Two fouls in one. Yeah, a bit soft, but I can fully understand why it was given. If we can add some pace and creativity before the window closes, we will be pushing for top 8. Results went for us today too.
Igonre the push, that was irrelevant. If you stand on the back of someone's foot like that anywhere on the pitch it's a free kick, forward get that exact foul from defenders almost every game. Just because the ref missed it and had to told to take a look on the screen doesn't stop it being a clear free kick.
That he took about 5-6 seconds to make a decision once he looked at it shows how clear it was. I'm 99% certain that most of the 'it was a soft one' comments are because people think/thought it was given for the push. I fully expect it to come up on Motd and be 'cleared up' as an obvious foul.
-
There was a push and a slight stamp on Ramsey. Two fouls in one. Yeah, a bit soft, but I can fully understand why it was given. If we can add some pace and creativity before the window closes, we will be pushing for top 8. Results went for us today too.
Slight stamp? He stood on his heel, boot trodden down, just as the ball is dropping where he was. Big foul
-
I don't get how often I see Southampton described as a side in form. They've won 1 league game since October and 2 since August. And they were both against shit Bournemouth and Everton sides. A couple of cup victories doesn't cover that are very shit indeed.
-
I don't get how often I see Southampton described as a side in form. They've won 1 league game since October and 2 since August. And they were both against shit Bournemouth and Everton sides. A couple of cup victories doesn't cover that are very shit indeed.
They really are dreadful. I saw them in cup v Citeh recently and was impressed. Martinez saves that header from Watkins too, from an Irish pov Bazunu is having a very difficult first season in PL. KWP and JWP are decent, after that it's a struggle for them.
-
I thought at times we played some lovely football, and I kept thinking how much of a good team we'd be with better players in some of those positions. Our style of play has changed so much since Gerrard went, we look like we are becoming a 'proper' football team.
-
Brilliant win.
Congratulations to the manager and players for grinding out a deserved win. We rode our luck, played some fluid stuff and our quality gave us the edge to take the 3 points.
Certain players could do with a little improvement here and there but the togetherness, spirit and fight we showed !
Foxes will be shitting themselves after we get a 2 week break, regroup and take them apart at VP at something different called a Saturday 3pm kick off at home.
-
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
One of the responses from that Saints site. They seem completely oblivious to the fact that there were a couple of Villa pens that could have been. Certainly one of them. They whine about Watkins being offside, despite not being. And they all happily ignore the fact that their player not only pushed Ramsey, he also kicked the back of his ankle... Talk about being one eyed, lol...
To be fair I reckon all forums are the same, full of one eyed twats. I read the rest of that thread and I am baffled by why they think Watkins was offside when he clearly wasn't. Every team in the country has fans that say 'the refs are always against us' and I always eye roll. I bet there are fucking Man City fans that even say it. I think some refs are weak but I don't think there are conspiracies.
Apart from this one obviously.
-
I keep a close eye on Wolves as I do have a soft spot for them, due to my late Grandad and old man. However their fans on forums are stark raving bonkers and it’s as if Wolves have been dominating the World of football for the last fifty years.
-
Brilliant win.
Congratulations to the manager and players for grinding out a deserved win. We rode our luck, played some fluid stuff and our quality gave us the edge to take the 3 points.
Certain players could do with a little improvement here and there but the togetherness, spirit and fight we showed !
Foxes will be shitting themselves after we get a 2 week break, regroup and take them apart at VP at something different called a Saturday 3pm kick off at home.
Shitting foxes are a scourge in major urban areas, the fuckers get everywhere.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
-
Oleen and Viljay on the bench today.
Possible indication that Olsen's dropping down the pecking order as back up keeper to Emi?
Sinisalo is now Finland's 1st choice keeper.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
We had 9.
Olsen, Sinisalo, Cash, Chambers, Revan, Dendoncker, Sanson, Coutinho and Young.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
Problem is Smithy, reporters don't ask the right questions. You raise a really interesting point.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
We had 9.
Olsen, Sinisalo, Cash, Chambers, Revan, Dendoncker, Sanson, Coutinho and Young.
Ah, Revan isn't listed on the BBC report, so thought it was only 8. Glad there was another youngster out there making up the numbers.
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
Filthy Drone dork Scummers. Get in the Solent.
I know all clubs have them, but in my experience Saints have a disproportionate number of salty fans. Like I said, it might have been the right decision but I’d have been annoyed about the VAR call - I do get that. But more broadly than that we were the much better side and the ref gave them plenty.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
We had 9.
Olsen, Sinisalo, Cash, Chambers, Revan, Dendoncker, Sanson, Coutinho and Young.
Ah, Revan isn't listed on the BBC report, so thought it was only 8. Glad there was another youngster out there making up the numbers.
He's not listed on the official website or on the guardian either.
-
I thought both Cash and Coutinho had little impact off the bench. I'm not sure what Cash was at late on when he had possession in the corner. Went for a cross to noone and they had a counter attack off the back of it. The Donk was ok in his cameo, at least won a few balls.
-
Dominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck. A lot is being said about grinding out results but one thing that a perhaps hasn't been mentioned is under Unai we've also massive improved some of our shithousery. Time wasting, delaying play, picking up 'injuries'. slowing the game down to suit us, yes, we play nicer football now, more controlling football, but we're also much cuter.
Clever of Unai also to show the lack of depth on the bench naming two goalkeepers. I would be disappointed if we didn't see 2 or 3 come in between now and the end of the window, if not transfers, certainly loans.
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
We had 9.
Olsen, Sinisalo, Cash, Chambers, Revan, Dendoncker, Sanson, Coutinho and Young.
Ah, Revan isn't listed on the BBC report, so thought it was only 8. Glad there was another youngster out there making up the numbers.
He's not listed on the official website or on the guardian either.
Assume he got an injury in the warm-up? Or maybe something more mundane like a mix-up with his paperwork - not sure he's been on the bench for us before in the league?
-
I
Dominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Yep correct. Like I said, I can understand being frustrated with the VAR call but it is the right decision. It’s weird headlines like, “officials deny Saints” - yes in the sense they made the correct decisions!
-
Emi made a couple of good saves too. One world class.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Yep correct. Like I said, I can understand being frustrated with the VAR call but it is the right decision. It’s weird headlines like, “officials deny Saints” - yes in the sense they made the correct decisions!
I cannot understand the frustration. The correct calls were made. Eventually. VAR actually worked...
-
Brilliant win.
Congratulations to the manager and players for grinding out a deserved win. We rode our luck, played some fluid stuff and our quality gave us the edge to take the 3 points.
Certain players could do with a little improvement here and there but the togetherness, spirit and fight we showed !
Foxes will be shitting themselves after we get a 2 week break, regroup and take them apart at VP at something different called a Saturday 3pm kick off at home.
Saddlers will soften them up for us
-
Scrappy game but no doubting we deserved the win. Incomprehensible how different we look in such a short space of time thanks to Emery.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Totally agree - Ramsey could readily have had a penalty in the first half
-
Has there been any official comment about the bench? Only naming 8 instead of 9, and two of them being keepers? Why no U21s to make up the numbers? Where was KKH?
We had 9.
Olsen, Sinisalo, Cash, Chambers, Revan, Dendoncker, Sanson, Coutinho and Young.
Ah, Revan isn't listed on the BBC report, so thought it was only 8. Glad there was another youngster out there making up the numbers.
He's not listed on the official website or on the guardian either.
Dunno, he's on the social media graphic the club put out (and was shared in the match thread). More importantly he was sat on the bench.
-
Another three points - keep em coming.
-
https://thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=1 WOW!
-
I'm surprised at some of the comments on here: "grinded out a result", "decisions went for us", etc.
We won that game by being in control of it, pretty much from start to finish. We moved the ball well and supported each other really well. What I particularly liked was the contrast in players: Ramsey's graft worked well with Kamara's total ease and Luiz's reading of the game. There's much to be proud of, and talk of Sourhampton's occasional chances (and the 2 rightly-disallowed 'goals') is mere frippery.
I was disappointed with Buendia's wayward passing and Bailey's awful misses (I'm afraid the latter just isn't good enough). I was also unimpressed with Moreno, but then he is new to the squad.
Another midfielder like Guendouzi is a must, as is a combative and confident winger / striker. Then, we really will start to look good.
I was pretty impressed with today's game (thanks to Bad English for the link to a decent stream).
-
How did Moreno perform today?
-
Another weekend unspoiled. I could get used to this.
This.
-
How did Moreno perform today?
Not great I thought, still settling in.
-
How did Moreno perform today?
Not great I thought, still settling in.
He did okay for me I like the fact that he is positive and likes to move the ball forward quickly
Should have had an assist if Bailey hadn’t taken it off Watkins toes
Anyway I like him and think he will only improve
-
How did Moreno perform today?
Not great I thought, still settling in.
Did he manage to get forward much and provide an attacking out ball?
-
We are turning into that mid table side that we’ve seen so many times rock up at Villa Park and just win away from home. Love it
-
How did Moreno perform today?
Not great I thought, still settling in.
Did he manage to get forward much and provide an attacking out ball?
Thought he was ok first half mostly. Gets up and down much more than Digne does.
-
I thought he was poor, got dribbled past too easily and positioning wasn't great.
Gets a pass though, being his first start.
-
Moreno was OKish, but in any case, like when we replaced Targett with Digne, it's a bit of an upgrade but not a key signing that's going to transform us. We need better players than Bailey and Buendia so those two become squad players rather than nailed on starters, as they're both infuriatingly inconsistent.
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
-
A text book away performance,for the first 60 minutes I thought we dominated the ball with nice intricate passing without offering much of a threat but made the scummers chase the ball without any success.
Kamara excelled again making the right decisions and passes looking totally comfortable on the ball, I can't remember the last time we had a defensive midfielder this good.
Bailey offered very little and we certainly need an update, imagine how much better we will be when Emery gets his type of players in.
Scummers had a ten minute spell from about 60 minutes but jeez they lack quality all over the pitch.
We finally have a manager that knows how to get results, can't wait to see how we improve once he gets his type of players in.
-
We’re certainly improving. 575 passes today.. that’s a lot. Good movement off the ball, great pressing to break up play, two-thirds of the possession and a bit of luck.
-
Thought we were good in the first half and pretty dominant without scoring. Thought we came off it a bit in the 2nd half though and gave the ball away too often. I thought they got quite a bit of joy down our left hand side in the second half with Buendia and Moreno struggling to contain them at times.
All that said, a good result away from home to continue our good run of form. The table is starting to look interesting!
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
I thought we were ok today but rarely threatened in a poor game. A great game to win as we ground it out without ever shining . It’s good to be looking up rather than down again.
-
From SaintsWeb
Utterly cheated by the worthless cheating ****ing ****s officiating today.
Villa cheating every time they got tackled got them the three points despite being by far the worst team we’ve seen at St Mary’s this season.
Utter ****ing scandal.
:)
They have seen one worse team…the home one
-
How satisfying to see a goal celebrated by mimicking a golf drive getting disallowed. Ward-Prouse didn’t put his virtual club back in his virtual caddy… golf wanker!
-
Worst part of the day was the Villa shirt, horrible, why couldn't we wear our colours.
-
How satisfying to see a goal celebrated by mimicking a golf drive getting disallowed. Ward-Prouse didn’t put his virtual club back in his virtual caddy… golf wanker!
He'll have less days off in the Championship with the scheduling of fixtures down there.
Less time for golf. Shame.
Golf wanker.
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
Before today we'd apparently won once in the last 15 games we wore our third kit. And that win was Burnley.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Agreed. The highlights made the most of every Southampton chance, but their offside (incorrectly called 'marginal' by the co-commentator) was clear, and the foul on Ramsey wasn't deliberate, I don't think, but it was definitely a foul.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Agreed. The highlights made the most of every Southampton chance, but their offside (incorrectly called 'marginal' by the co-commentator) was clear, and the foul on Ramsey wasn't deliberate, I don't think, but it was definitely a foul.
Same with all the newspaper reports this morning. All the focus is on Southampton being unlucky because of those two incidents but we were rarely in trouble and if you look at the stats they tell a very different story. May be we were unlucky not to score more…..
-
Didn’t follow the game in the most part, got in the car to find out Southampton had scored, followed by, according to 5Live, much protesting from our players then it’s finally ruled out, not sure what for?
Looked at the score on my phone in the shop and Ollie had scored.
No clue how we played, whether it was deserved or not but a great 3 points and that’s, I think, 3 away league wins on the bounce. Moving on up, get in there!!
The southampton player trod on Ramseys heel as the cross came over, it was a clear foul no matter how many people call it soft.
Yes, you (and Edvard) called it correctly.
-
IDominated/controlled the game yet two or three key decisions went for us so you could argue we also rode our luck.
I don't think we rode our luck at all.
The first 'goal' was clearly offside - two of their players.
The VAR intervention, he pushed Ramsey AND clipped his foot.
Decisions being correct isn't riding our luck.
Agreed. The highlights made the most of every Southampton chance, but their offside (incorrectly called 'marginal' by the co-commentator) was clear, and the foul on Ramsey wasn't deliberate, I don't think, but it was definitely a foul.
Same with all the newspaper reports this morning. All the focus is on Southampton being unlucky because of those two incidents but we were rarely in trouble and if you look at the stats they tell a very different story. May be we were unlucky not to score more…..
We definitely could've had another couple, while their main chances were correctly ruled out. On the balance of play, a draw or one-goal win either way was about right, and we got that because we have better players and a better manager.
Gutted for you, Southampton, but if you think you were in some way cheated out of points, no wonder you're bottom.
-
The worry is despite owning the ball, and utterly dominating midfield, we really struggled to create genuine chances against the worst team in the league. Moreno, Ramsey, Buendia, Bailey weren't at it, while Coutinho had little impact when he came on either. Nothing wrong with a goal from an old fashioned set piece, mind. Been a while since we scored from one it seems.
-
The worry is despite owning the ball, and utterly dominating midfield, we really struggled to create genuine chances against the worst team in the league. Moreno, Ramsey, Buendia, Bailey weren't at it, while Coutinho had little impact when he came on either. Nothing wrong with a goal from an old fashioned set piece, mind. Been a while since we scored from one it seems.
Bailey could have scored a hat-trick and Ramsey had two penalty-shouts. We made chances, we just didn't take them.
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
Before today we'd apparently won once in the last 15 games we wore our third kit. And that win was Burnley.
We wore the green / red combo 3rd kit when we played Arsenal off the park with the 3-0 Grealish show as well
-
How can the BBC not show the penalty shout for the Foul on Ramsey who was clearly barged by a Saints defender ?
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
Before today we'd apparently won once in the last 15 games we wore our third kit. And that win was Burnley.
We wore the green / red combo 3rd kit when we played Arsenal off the park with the 3-0 Grealish show as well
That was the black away kit.
-
The worry is despite owning the ball, and utterly dominating midfield, we really struggled to create genuine chances against the worst team in the league. Moreno, Ramsey, Buendia, Bailey weren't at it, while Coutinho had little impact when he came on either. Nothing wrong with a goal from an old fashioned set piece, mind. Been a while since we scored from one it seems.
I dont think we created loads against Leeds or Wolves either. We’re finding a way to win which is a great habit and has to be related to the way Emery has us set and players drilled. I suppose the concern will be can it last, if Bailey, Beundia and Watkins continue to be a bit hit and miss. Another couple attacking minded players through the door in the next week hopefully, will help with that. 3 points off sixth, feels a good place to be though .
-
If we're getting results without creating a lot and playing too well then it's encouraging. It'll get better.
-
We look much more solid, which was a problem under the Scouse Sherwood, but it's clear our attacking options are limited. We need more pace, movement and strength, alongside that creativity.
-
The worry is despite owning the ball, and utterly dominating midfield, we really struggled to create genuine chances against the worst team in the league. Moreno, Ramsey, Buendia, Bailey weren't at it, while Coutinho had little impact when he came on either. Nothing wrong with a goal from an old fashioned set piece, mind. Been a while since we scored from one it seems.
I thought we were very good in the first half and completely dominated it in a way we haven't done for some time. Played really good football and really didn't let them play at all.
Problem we have got is that our attacking players lose possession and give the ball away far too often. It happens pretty much every game as well. If we are going to move forward, we simply need better quality in those areas.
-
We look much more solid, which was a problem under the Scouse Sherwood, but it's clear our attacking options are limited. We need more pace, movement and strength, alongside that creativity.
Moving away from that horrible 433 has certainly made us stronger without the ball. Both Kamara and Luiz are much more comfortable in a 2. Young wisely stays behind the ball a lot more, so we nearly always have at least 4 behind the ball at all times. Under Gerrard our CBs were often the only two behind the ball with likes of McGinn trundling back on the cover.
I'm not a fan of this tactical set up under Emery with the ball. It's not really a 442 or 4222 with Bailey with kind of a free role high on the right. As we saw v Wolves particularly it leaves us vulnerable to a 3 v 2 in midfield. I'm not sure why there is a reluctance to switch to 4231 but maybe he doesn't trust Bailey defensively. Either way likes of Ramsey, Bailey and Buendia all need to improve.
-
How can the BBC not show the penalty shout for the Foul on Ramsey who was clearly barged by a Saints defender ?
I thought the same, in fact if you were to watch MOTD it looked like Southampton were the better team. I guess its difficult with highlights to show the 72% ball possession that we had for the first half.
-
Good win against a team, who only recently deserved to beat Man City in the EFL Cup, lack of creativity is a concern, but hopefully that is gonna improve under Emery. Biggest disappointment for me was Coutinho, when he came on, couldn't believe how bad he was, he was giving the ball away, almost every time he got the ball.
-
I actually thought Southampton wasnt that bad, there is worse teams in the league i thought , they had good organisation for defence and their CB s looked good - point is says something about us able to dominate them and also why we didnt score more (than we needed). Most of the time we where really good as a team I thought. Bailey and Watkins probably show their best as counter attacking players and as it where a game that we didnt counterattack - but still got the goal. Watkins still had a good game, we didnt see the best of Buenodias and Bailey - but have to remember they scored our two goals to beat Leeds last week. Buendia cant defend especially when got tiered and so couldnt help Moreno (which I think looks that he has the signs of the quality needed) - Moreno and our left suffered a bit from that. Cash coudnt find his place or the ball in right midfield when cme on and a tiering Young had to hold our right most of his own i thought.
Pleasant to watch us now , not so much of the unease from lately
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
Before today we'd apparently won once in the last 15 games we wore our third kit. And that win was Burnley.
So that's 15 games in about 110 we played wearing third kit. There in is the problem, don't wear a kit that players are not used to wearing. No one needs a third kit.
-
Another away win another good away day I'm happy with the three points and clean sheet.
-
And we finally win in our third kit. It's been a while (I think)
We were discussing this on the train home. Last win we could recall was Burnley away 3 years ago
Before today we'd apparently won once in the last 15 games we wore our third kit. And that win was Burnley.
We wore the green / red combo 3rd kit when we played Arsenal off the park with the 3-0 Grealish show as well
That was the black away kit.
It's the performance you hanker after the most and ultimately what made you purchase the shirt in question.
-
I think it was a performance like a top side often puts in away from home, where they aren't at their best but dominate possession and control the ball for long periods.
In terms of evolution, this is a significant improvement from a team winning an away game with a counter-attack/set-piece while being battered for most of the game.
-
How can the BBC not show the penalty shout for the Foul on Ramsey who was clearly barged by a Saints defender ?
I thought the same, in fact if you were to watch MOTD it looked like Southampton were the better team. I guess its difficult with highlights to show the 72% ball possession that we had for the first half.
MOTD has always been the same. I used to watch it after a game & wonder if their cameramen were at a different ground to the one I was in... Then I stopped watching it.
-
The BBC are just assholes. Unbiased?
Yet being the guarantor on the former PM’s loans. Ok
-
The BBC are just assholes. Unbiased?
Yet being the guarantor on the former PM’s loans. Ok
That's got nothing to do with the BBC at all - they don't get to choose the chairman, the government do.
-
The BBC's great, best broadcaster in the World*.
*Apart from in my teens when they used to cut out some of the sex and swearing in films and RTE didn't.
-
How can the BBC not show the penalty shout for the Foul on Ramsey who was clearly barged by a Saints defender ?
I thought the same, in fact if you were to watch MOTD it looked like Southampton were the better team. I guess its difficult with highlights to show the 72% ball possession that we had for the first half.
MOTD has always been the same. I used to watch it after a game & wonder if their cameramen were at a different ground to the one I was in... Then I stopped watching it.
Its much better than it was - back in the day you would just see the goal - and the commentators summary
-
MOTD has always been the same. I used to watch it after a game & wonder if their cameramen were at a different ground to the one I was in... Then I stopped watching it.
Its much better than it was - back in the day you would just see the goal - and the commentators summary
The Jeff Beck tribute was a nice touch last week.
-
The BBC are just assholes
Tsk!
-
I did put this on the EM thread but I'll repeat myself. On MOTD2 last night they did a montage of the best saves in the PL so far this season. Not even one from Emi Martinez. Pricks.
-
I did put this on the EM thread but I'll repeat myself. On MOTD2 last night they did a montage of the best saves in the PL so far this season. Not even one from Emi Martinez. Pricks.
I didn't watch but let me guess, was this inspired by De Gea's admittedly good save against Arsenal, his one good save in 10 games that everyone raves about before he goes back to letting dribblers through his legs?
-
And that save last week against Leeds was the save of the season so far
-
Not wishing to give that lot any credit but I would say the save of the season was Etheridges against Forest Green last week.
-
Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game... ??? Imbecile.
-
The Guardian's "10 things..." thing afforded an entry each for Newton Heath and Woolwich Arsenal but couldn't even be arsed to mention who Soton were playing in the single entry about our game.
Starry eyed hype merchants.
-
Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game... ??? Imbecile.
Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.
-
Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game... ??? Imbecile.
Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.
Surely that is the only reason the Hobbit is there in the first place?
-
I think I've mentioned it before but in case I haven't. Refereeing is a closed shop, the laws are so ambiguous you will not get one referee come out publicly and say another referee was wrong, even if one took a bow and arrow on to the pitch and used a player as a target.
-
I think I've mentioned it before but in case I haven't. Refereeing is a closed shop, the laws are so ambiguousyou will not get one referee come out publicly and say another referee was wrong, even if one took a bow and arrow on to the pitch and used a player as a target.
That is something that infuriates me. Something that referees talk about a lot that the laws are "subjective". Which is garbage. Laws that are written down for everyone to follow should not be "ambiguous" or "subjective". Rules should be clear & concise so that everybody is playing the same game. If they aren't, then they are not worth the paper they are written on.
-
Also as already mentioned - the MOTD editing of games is getting worse and worse to the point where you do consider if you have seen another game. Neither of the pen decisions were even shown.
Their own BBC stats
Possession 64%
Shots 16 compared to 8 by Soton
On Target - same @ 5
Fouls 19 by Soton 9 by us
That in anyones book is a dominant, controlled performance but you would not of thought it in the game footage.
wankers
The same could be said about the Leedz game where the physical assault by brassneck in goal on Countinho not even shown
-
I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?
-
Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game... ??? Imbecile.
Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.
Surely that is the only reason the Hobbit is there in the first place?
Indeed. I only commented as Pablo said ‘even Gallagher agreed’. He always agrees.
-
Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game... ??? Imbecile.
Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.
Surely that is the only reason the Hobbit is there in the first place?
Indeed. I only commented as Pablo said ‘even Gallagher agreed’. He always agrees.
But most media outlets haven't agreed. They have looked at the push & ignored the achilles tread & then called the incident "controversial". Including Sky Sports News.
-
I've noticed that some incidents are left out of the highlights and then bought up during the analysis later on, which is a proper ******'s trick for those of us who fast forward through Richards grinning like a ninny and Murphy's mogadon monologues.
-
Another win, away from home. And we're going to strengthen.
Double the possession, shots, and half the fouls committed. We're on the up.
-
I did put this on the EM thread but I'll repeat myself. On MOTD2 last night they did a montage of the best saves in the PL so far this season. Not even one from Emi Martinez. Pricks.
I didn't watch but let me guess, was this inspired by De Gea's admittedly good save against Arsenal, his one good save in 10 games that everyone raves about before he goes back to letting dribblers through his legs?
Got it in one.
-
I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?
Not seen that anywhere. Andre Mariner is definitely a Villa fan which is why we never get him.
-
We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.
Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.
-
We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.
Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.
Emery will use every minute of the 2 weeks to make us even better. He’s a class act and maybe he’ll have another new signing to integrate. I’d expect us to be even better if anything.
-
Just seen ref watch and I think they totally missed the point when discussing the disallowed goal for Southampton. They compared the challenge on Ramsey with two other challenges where penalties were not given and ask why the "bar" was different. Surely with Villa it's a case of "a foul" was committed which might not have been a free kick in the middle of the pitch but because not awarding it would mean a goal was scored the offending team should not be rewarded.
-
I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?
Not seen that anywhere. Andre Mariner is definitely a Villa fan which is why we never get him.
And yet we get reffed against both Manc clubs by a Manc... ;D
-
Just seen ref watch and I think they totally missed the point when discussing the disallowed goal for Southampton. They compared the challenge on Ramsey with two other challenges where penalties were not given and ask why the "bar" was different. Surely with Villa it's a case of "a foul" was committed which might not have been a free kick in the middle of the pitch but because not awarding it would mean a goal was scored the offending team should not be rewarded.
The 'bar' is different because when a goal has been scored VAR can step in but they can't anywhere else, that's how it's designed to be and is one of the big reasons it doesn't work as it should.
Aside from that the ref spent most of the gqame giving soft free kicks for minimal contact (edozie got 3-4 cheap decisions like that) so even within the game the precedent was that the ref was going to give it. The exception was when Ramsey should've had a penalty because there was definitely as much contasct for that as there had been for a bunch of other fouls he gave. The only reason it wasn't given is because Ramsey was already on the turn, if he'd tried to take a touch instead of spinning the defender it'd have been a stonewall penalty because the defender went straight through his standing leg.
-
We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.
Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.
Getting McGinn and Digne back fit hopefully, maybe even Carlos back in the squad. Moreno a bit more settled after a few nights out at the Belfry. I think we have a lot to gain over the couple of weeks off. Another signing or two would help obviously. We seem to be staking a lot on Guendouzi.
-
We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.
Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.
6 weeks off for the world cup hasn’t killed us.
-
I don't know if I just haven't found the appropriate thread on here, but no-one seems to have commented or picked up on Villa being charged by the FA for failure to control our players during the Southampton game (ie during the Ward-Prowse disallowed goal machinations).
It all looks a bit dubious to me, given the sort of behaviour that is allowed to go on in games these day.
-
As a sign of how biased the Beeb are (and not just when they organise loans for Bozo) try watching the highlights of the game on MoTD then study the stats immediately afterwards.
I was quite shocked to see how dominant we had been in all categories for almost the whole match. Watching the highlights, I almost felt sorry for 'unlucky' Southampton!!
Oh yes, and the two penalty appeals disappeared down the memory hole, too.